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Submission by Nancy Beach - The opinions that follow are those of the person expressing them and not necessarily shared by Cortes Currents, or Cortes Radio. The following submission was made by Nancy Beach. After dealing with BC assessment for 17 years or more, in regard to my small farm on Salt Spring Island, I have come to the conclusion that: Farm assessments should be administered by the Ministry of Agriculture, not the Ministry of Housing. The system for assessing farm status needs to be overhauled. It should not be lumped in with assessing the values of residential properties. Farmers should be given adequate time to present and debate their cases. More people who care about farms should sit on the board of the Property Assessment Appeal Board (PAAB), and the panel of the Property Assessment Review Panel, (PARP).' PARP plan panel members making decisions concerning farms should be well educated about the farm regulations number. Pabst should not charge for their services. BC Farmers need an organization to represent them, represent themselves and help defend their interests before the B. C. Assessment when necessary. While my farm is on Salt Spring, I am a resident of Cortes Island and believe these matters are concerns of small farmers and all farmers throughout British Columbia. I also want to publish a transcript of my latest hearing before the property assessment review panel PARP on March 15th, 2023 which actually went partly in my favor. I was asking for them to provide farm status for the entire property. They decided to only provide farm status for a small part of the land. Audio of the hearing is in a separate podcacst

Returning guest alert! Today we welcome back to the show Nancy Beach. Following over 25 years in local church leadership, Nancy Beach now serves as a Leadership Coach with the Slingshot Group and as a Teaching Pastor at Soul City Church. In every season of life God has provided Sabbath for his people. Listen in as Lisa and Nancy tackle the HOW of this gift from God. The Rest of God- Mark Buchanan Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest- Ruth Haley Barton

Returning guest alert! Today we welcome back to the show Nancy Beach. Following over 25 years in local church leadership, Nancy Beach now serves as a Leadership Coach with the Slingshot Group and as a Teaching Pastor at Soul City Church. In every season of life God has provided Sabbath for his people. Listen in as Lisa and Nancy tackle the HOW of this gift from God. The Rest of God- Mark Buchanan Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest- Ruth Haley Barton

NANCY BEACH, Pastor, Author, Leadership Coach / Fourth Sunday of Easter / Acts 2.42-47

NANCY BEACH, Pastor, Author, Leadership Coach / Fourth Sunday of Easter / Acts 2.42-47

Mother & Daughter duo Nancy and Samantha Beach are both leaning into their Enneagram number by tackling one of the most audacious goals possible: addressing the mass exodus from the church, and working to make it more inclusive.  As a millennial, Samantha suspects there may be a disconnect within the generations when it comes to messaging: “We're seeing this all across society, all the -isms, right? Racism, sexism, homophobia, all these things. And, I think my friends just wanna know, is the church having these conversations too?” In this episode, we chat about how to create a healthy dialogue between people of different views and age groups, and how working together on that message was the best way to model community for those in the church:  “The texture of community is vital. There's something different about confessing sins together…singing together, even learning together in a room side by side. Then there's something about the conversation before and after, that can happen.” — Nancy Beach (3w4) serves as a leadership coach with theSlingshot Group and on  the teaching team at Soul City Church in downtown Chicago. Previously, Nancy served as the programming director at Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago. She is also the author of An Hour on Sunday and Gifted to Lead. Nancy and her husband Warren have two adult daughters, Samantha and Johanna. Samantha Beach Kiley (3w2) is a writer and performer working at the intersection of art and faith. Samantha's creative work has appeared in theatres, churches, and non-profit spaces. She has taught at Northwestern's National High School Institute and Rocky Mountain Repertory Theatre, where she is the co-education director. She and her family have recently moved to Raleigh, NC where Samantha is associate pastor at Church on Morgan in Raleigh. Check out their new book, Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church. To learn more about Nancy Beach, follow her on Twitter, or visit her website. To learn more about Samantha Beach Kiley, follow her on Twitter, or visit her website.

Welcome back to another mini-series within Season 2! For the next little bit, we'll be diving into why culture development matters. What are you helping to build? Are your efforts intentional or unintentional? Any blindspots? Today we kick off this mini-series with two beautiful humans who wrote one incredible book that gives some killer food for thought as we consider how to create healthy churches for the future generations. Daughter and Mom duo, Samantha Beach Kiley and Nancy Beach join forces to share their experiences in suburban megachurch spaces to working and ministering in urban environments, both with a huge passion for the arts and the flourishing of Jesus' good news. Find out more at: Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church Nancy Beach Samantha Beach Kiley www.darlingthepodcast.com Have an idea for a future episode, or a story you want to share? I'd love to hear from you! Please write to us at darlingthepodcast@gmail.com. Music by Hymns of the People can be found here at Spotify or Apple Music Hosted by Anchor: It's everything you need to make a podcast all in one place for free! Download the free Anchor app or go to Anchor.fm to get started. LASTLY, YOUR VOICE MATTERS! We want to hear your story and your tips and tools that can be shared here. You can email me at darlingthepodcast@gmail.com or you can DM me on Instagram. A third way we've opened up communication is through leaving a voice message at 720-432-8306. Don't worry, you won't accidentally get a person picking up the phone. You'll be able to leave your message at the number and I will review the content for our upcoming episodes.

Welcome back to another mini-series within Season 2! For the next little bit, we'll be diving into why culture development matters. What are you helping to build? Are your efforts intentional or unintentional? Any blindspots? Today we kick off this mini-series with two beautiful humans who wrote one incredible book that gives some killer food for thought as we consider how to create healthy churches for the future generations. Daughter and Mom duo, Samantha Beach Kiley and Nancy Beach join forces to share their experiences in suburban megachurch spaces to working and ministering in urban environments, both with a huge passion for the arts and the flourishing of Jesus' good news. Find out more at: Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church Nancy Beach Samantha Beach Kiley www.darlingthepodcast.com Have an idea for a future episode, or a story you want to share? I'd love to hear from you! Please write to us at darlingthepodcast@gmail.com. Music by Hymns of the People can be found here at Spotify or Apple Music Hosted by Anchor: It's everything you need to make a podcast all in one place for free! Download the free Anchor app or go to Anchor.fm to get started. LASTLY, YOUR VOICE MATTERS! We want to hear your story and your tips and tools that can be shared here. You can email me at darlingthepodcast@gmail.com or you can DM me on Instagram. A third way we've opened up communication is through leaving a voice message at 720-432-8306. Don't worry, you won't accidentally get a person picking up the phone. You'll be able to leave your message at the number and I will review the content for our upcoming episodes.

Nancy serves as a leadership coach with the Slingshot Group and on the teaching team at Soul City Church in downtown Chicago. Previously, Nancy served as the programming director at Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago. She is also the author of An Hour on Sunday and Gifted to Lead. Nancy and her husband Warren have two adult daughters, Samantha and Johanna.   Samantha is a writer and performer, and an associate pastor at a church in Raleigh, North Carolina. Samantha's creative work has appeared in theatres, churches, and non-profit spaces. She has taught at Northwestern's National High School Institute and Rocky Mountain Repertory Theatre, where she is the co-education director with her husband, Will.   They are the authors of the new book Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church   **** you can get 30% off their book by clicking the link above and using the code MUCHMORE Code valid until 10/26/22 ****   Take a few minutes to meditate on Acts 2:42-47. This passage gives us details about how the first church community lived and worshipped together. And then listen in to this conversation where we unpack the spiritual discipline of the Church and why it matters to our faith journey. Some highlights from our conversation: We talk about what why they wrote the book. And we hear from Samantha's perspective what it was like writing a book with her mom. We discuss why the spiritual practice of engaging with a church community is different than other practices. And why is it critical in forming us as followers of Jesus. We talk about what threatens the church today – and what our role is in helping curb this threat. We talk about the brave and hard decision Nancy made to call our abusive behavior at her previous church, Willow Creek Community Church. And we also get to hear Samantha's perspective on how that impacted her faith journey and her relationship with the Church. We talk about being a woman in ministry and how the abuses that are rising to the surface regularly could create a knee-jerk reaction to women serving in the church. Finally, we talk about being hurt by the church and what some next steps could be for those who have been wounded.   You can follow Nancy on Twitter: @NancyLBeach You can follow Samantha on Twitter: @BeachSamantha Or visit her website at https://www.samanthabeach.work/  

Note: Meditation starts at 2:20 Lectio Divina is the divine or sacred reading of Scripture. Create some sacred space for God and spend a few quiet moments engaging with his Word. As you allow the Spirit to lead, you may be surprised by where he leads you. Once you've listened to this Scripture Experience podcast, then head over to the next episode to listen to my conversation with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley about the church and their new book, Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church You can find Jodie at Jodieniznik.com Instagram @creatingspaceforgod Facebook @jodieniznik Download your free Lectio Divina Guided journal here. The exact verses read in this podcast are printed here for your use. Acts 2:42-47, NIV 42 They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

Join us for a discussion of a chapter from Nancy Beach's book , Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue about the Future of the Church. This read is so meaningful and is such an important perspective on where we're headed. We'll cover some questions form the chapter around Men and Women working in Ministry called, "When Harry Works with Sally" Enjoy! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lead-bold/message

On this episode of Hope Unabridged, Kasey & Angie have an honest dialogue about the future of the church with Nancy Beach & Samantha Beach Kiley. Nancy serves as a leadership coach with the Slingshot Group, helping church leaders and teams flourish in life and ministry. Samantha is a writer and performer working at the intersection of art and faith. Listen and learn more about their unique philosophy on the creation and growth of the Church in today's society. Hope Unabridged is hosted by: Kasey Brennan (@thejoyfulwild) and Angie Elkins (@angiebrownelkins) Music by: Robert Elkins

Join our discussion about the Future of the Church with Nancy Beach and Samantha KileyNancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley join us for an honest conversation about the future of the church in America. We discuss the struggles that have hindered the church's witness today and what must be done in order for the church to be faithful and fruitful going forward. *****To support Make It Simple, head to mpm.simple donation.comCheck out What Matters Most, daily teachings from Matt Popovits, available wherever you get your podcasts.For more information on MPM, head to mattpopovits.comSupport the show

A great reckoning is underway in the church today: a naming and exposing of the exclusivity, abuse, racism, patriarchy, and unchecked power that have marked evangelical Christianity for far too long. What kind of church will emerge on the other side? Tommy Lee sits down with Nancy Beach & Samantha Beach Kiley to discuss this question in this episode of the EML podcast.

I'm so excited to welcome a long-time hero in the faith and inspiration of mine for many years as far as women leading in the local church, author and speaker Nancy Beach, along with her daughter Samantha Beach Kiley, who has co-authored the new book Next Sunday.  If you have every experienced church hurt, then today's conversation is for you.  Even from a past pain point, this book is written with hope for the local church and the next generation who is asking questions and making decisions about whether or not they will stay or walk away.  This is a conversation you don't want to miss…and I'm so glad you're here for it.  Remember to share this episode with a friend- it would mean the world to me!Connect with Nancy Beach:Next Sunday:  https://www.ivpress.com/next-sundayWebsite:  http://www.nancylbeach.com/Twitter: @nancylbeachConnect with Samatha Beach Kiley:Twitter:  @BeachSamanthaWebsite:  https://www.samanthabeach.work/Connect With Angie:Website: chatologie.comIG: @angiebrownelkinsTwitter: @AngieelkinsFacebook: @chatologieangieelkinsProduced and Edited by Lainie ThomasContact: lainie@angieelkinsmedia.com for more info

Book promo from: 8/30-9/20 HOPEPOD. Again, this is 30 percent off plus free shipping at ivpress.com. It won't work on amazon or at other websites. Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley explain why, in spite of all its challenges, they are hopeful for the future of our local churches.

The co-hosts sit down with mother & daughter co-writers Nancy Beach & Samantha Beach Kiley to discuss their book, "Next Sunday" and future of the church. What does community look like? How does the church address where it's fallen short in the past? What is the role of social justice in a Church community? They offer their reflection on these questions & many more. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this special episode of Craft and Character, Steve Carter shares why humility is the key to growing as a preacher一a reflection sparked by a conversation he had with Nancy Beach. Communicators give many reasons for neglecting their own development, but as 1 Timothy 4:14-15 reveals, honing our craft is a matter of stewardship, not just excellence. Steve gives three practical ways to embrace humility and grow as a preacher: Development Coaching Feedback This is a timely reminder that, to give ourselves wholly to the task of preaching, we must showcase a relentless consistency to get better each day as people, disciples, and preachers. Don't forget to sign up for Steve's epic book giveaway, featuring titles from past guests on the show! EPISODE LINKS Steve's books: The Thing Beneath the Thing, This Invitational Life Website: stevecarter.org Church: forestcitychurch.com Preaching Cohorts: theascentleader.org @steveryancarter @craft_character Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Join us as we connect with the incredibly creative and talented Nancy Beach! We discuss wonder, risk and tapping into God's great ideas! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lead-bold/message

  Seismic shifts are underway in the church and one of the important underlying questions on the table is “Will future generations find a church worth fighting for?” Decades-long ministry leader, Nancy Beach, along with her daughter, Samantha Beach Kiley, have penned the recent book Next Sunday:An Honest Dialogue About the... The post Nancy Beach & Samantha Beach Kiley – episode 329 appeared first on Anita Lustrea.

Today we hear from Nancy Beach. Nancy is most known for her groundbreaking ministry to more fully unleash the arts in the local church. For over 20 years she served Programming Director of Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, building a community of artists who sought to create transformational moments in weekend church services. She is a speaker, author (most recently published in 2022), leadership coach and longtime friend of John. CONNECT WITH US AT:

Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it's losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest's article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church.” Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons—both positive and negative—from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks... Angry mobs and the end times - https://www.patreon.com/posts/68708383/edit News Segment 0:00 - Intro 2:21 - Christian's travelogue and other updates 5:45 - Happy the Elephant 14:03 - More SCOTUS rulings 23:27 - Christian Right losing in public opinion 30:38 - Costs of overturning Roe 46:07 - Americans' belief in God is dropping Sponsor 52:19 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church” - https://amzn.to/3nHnA68 Nancy Beach - http://www.nancylbeach.com/ Samantha Beach Kiley - www.samanthabeach.work 56:04 - Relevance and trust 1:03:24 - Beyond content delivery 1:08:02 - Experiencing other traditions 1:10:59 - Blind spots and overcorrecting 1:18:00 - Church leadership culture 1:27:42 - Credits Articles referenced in news segment: “Happy the elephant is not a person, New York's highest court rules” - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/happy-the-elephant-is-not-a-person-new-yorks-highest-court-rules “The Christian Right is winning in court while losing in public opinion” (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109141110/the-christian-right-is-winning-cultural-battles-while-public-opinion-disagrees “What has the demise of Roe v. Wade cost the Catholic Church?” by Thomas Reese (Religion News Service) - https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/what-has-demise-roe-v-wade-cost-catholic-church “Poll: Americans' belief in God is dropping” - https://religionnews.com/2022/06/21/poll-americans-belief-in-god-is-dropping/ Resource mentioned in interview: “The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters” by Priya Parker - https://amzn.to/3akrxui

“In spite of its brokenness, I still have hope for the local church. And I believe it's still God's Plan A for reconciling the world.” Meet Nancy Beach and her daughter, Samantha Beach Kiley, two influential leaders of the Church and co-authors of Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church. In this episode, Sean Morgan digs deep with Nancy and Samantha on the future of community, the future of inclusion, and the future of the church. Nancy and Sam will challenge our listeners to think differently about the way churches are leading and whether or not we're actually making an impact on our congregants and our surrounding communities. Get ready to be inspired about what the church can be!

There has been lots of talk in recent days about changes in the Church - both in coming out of the pandemic, and also with a shift in generational leadership. How do Baby Boomers and Millennials work together to see the future of the Church thrive? Check out this conversation Jeff has with Nancy Beach and her daughter Samantha Beach Kiley as they talk about their multi-generational view on the future of the church. (And pick up their new book, Next Sunday, available wherever you do your book shopping!)

Why are so many of the changes that the Church is currently facing so dramatically different from many of the changes that we navigated over the past few decades? And, as we recognize these changes, why is it so important to address them honestly when it comes to the future of the Church? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley. Nancy helped found and served at Willow Creek Church for many years, and is now a teaching pastor at Soul City Church in Chicago. Samantha serves as a creative arts pastor, and together, they wrote a new book entitled, Next Sunday: an Honest Dialogue about the Future of the Church. This is a multi-generational conversation with two people who have a heart for Jesus and a heart for His Church.Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/networkSome key takeaways from this conversation:Nancy Beach on leaders growing in self-awareness: "We are all capable of blind spots. We all have ways in which we don't really see, sometimes...our unhealthy self. And so I think it begins with leaders who are growing, always, in self-awareness, allowing some trusted people, whether that be a counselor or a good honest friend, to hold up a mirror to us to actually help us see what we can't seem to see ourselves.”Samantha Beach Kiley on being more effective by slowing down: “Sometimes we're quick to leap towards the next stage of repair without doing the due diligence of confession and lament”Nancy Beach on where every church should focus their energy: “You might not be so great at strategic planning, or at your vision, or fundraising, or have a magnificent building, or anything like that. But you can focus on being a more loving, welcoming, truly welcoming, church. And that is what Jesus said would most draw people to Himself anyway. So that's where I think our energy needs to go.”Samantha Beach Kiley on hope in the future Church: "I think the hope of the Church --that it could be a force of restoration in our local community, and, and in the world at large, and in our own hearts-- I just don't think there's anything like that, and people need and want that....it's unlike any other part of modern life."Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)Love well, live well, and lead well --------Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesessionFollow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram 

Welcome to Episode 182 of the Worship Leader Probs Podcast! You're going to love this episode as Brian and Jen share their tremendous conversation with an incredible mother/daughter duo: Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley. Nancy Beach (On the teaching team at Soul City Church, an author, and a leadership coach with the Slingshot Group) and Samantha Beach Kiley (a writer and performer, and the Creative Arts Pastor at Austin New Church) share their insights in regards to creative arts ministry, the future of the church, and a great glimpse at their new book, “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue about the Future of the Church.” Check it out - and like, comment, subscribe, and share with a friend! Learn more and stay connected with >>> Worship Leader Probs (instagram.com/worshipleaderprobs) // Brian Tabor (instagram.com/briantabor) // Jen Smale (instagram.com/jensmale) // Nancy Beach (@nancyleebeach) // Samantha Beach Kiley (@samanthabeachk) Special thank you to our friends at Maven Media Productions for editing the podcast [Follow @mavenmediaproductions and visit www.mavenmediaproductions.com], and our great friend Scott Hoke for the voiceover intro [Visit www.scotthokevoice.com].

Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley share with us about their new book, Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church. They show us what it looks like to have humility about the way we think about God and the church, being open to seeing things through others' perspectives. I think this will be an important book at opening up a cross-generational dialogue about reimaging the church for our current moment.  Next Sunday releases June 14, but we are having a giveaway on Instagram of 2 copies of the book - so head over to @mgoldsworthy to enter  

In this episode, Steve Carter interviews Nancy Beach and her daughter Samantha Beach Kiley一two women humbly modeling what it looks like to lead the church in a skeptical age. They are both pastors, leaders, and champions of the local church. Steve unpacks a recent sermon Samantha delivered at Church on Morgan in Raleigh, NC and the way she writes her messages with such verbal precision. Nancy and Samantha love the local church and they spend time unpacking how they would debrief moments in a service or sermon around the kitchen island most weekends. Their forthcoming book, which they co-authored, looks honestly at issues plaguing the church: racism, patriarchy, exclusivity, abuse, and unchecked power. In light of these sobering realities, Nancy and Samantha are hopeful about the future of the church and fiercely committed to seeing it thrive. This conversation showcases the beautiful dynamic of a mother and daughter partnering in life and ministry一and also what it looks like when a veteran leader champions the next generation. EPISODE LINKS Nancy and Samantha's book: Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church Website: nancylbeach.com @NancyLBeach @SamanthaBeachk @steveryancarter @craft_character Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week on LBR, we're honored to have the powerhouse mother/daughter duo Nancy and Samantha Beach on to talk about their new book Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church. 
Being leaders in ministry and growing up in church, they ask the question: will future generations find a church worth fighting for? We talk about it and where they see the Church headed in this rich conversation. Pre-order their book out June 14: www.ivpress.com/next-sunday Discount code: BEREAL22 (available from 5/18-6/1) to be used at ivpress.com.

Today on the show Lisa interviews Nancy Beach. Nancy is a Leadership Coach, speaker and author. Nancy shares her wealth of knowledge and hard fought wisdom in creating healthy teams and transitioning leaders in and out while keeping a soft heart through it all. You'll feel overwhelmingly seen as she shares her story and champions your efforts. Transitions by William Bridges Ruth Haley Barton

Today on the show Lisa interviews Nancy Beach. Nancy is a Leadership Coach, speaker and author. Nancy shares her wealth of knowledge and hard fought wisdom in creating healthy teams and transitioning leaders in and out while keeping a soft heart through it all. You'll feel overwhelmingly seen as she shares her story and champions your efforts. Transitions by William Bridges Ruth Haley Barton

Roy L Hales/ Cortes Currents - Though they believe vaccine passport violate Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms, anti-vaxers will find this very difficult to prove in court, a lawyer with UBC's Peter A. Allard School of Law says. The key question in this debate is whether vaccine passports are mandated or an option. The key passage in the Charter is #7: “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.” Salima Semnani, a lawyer, co-litigation director and lecturer with UBC, told CKTZ News, “there is no mandatory vaccine requirement.” She explained that British Columbians are given a choice. For example, people who have vaccine passports can eat inside restaurants and go to sports events. Those who refuse will have to be satisfied with take-out and watching sports on television. A recent Insights West market research poll found that 13 per cent of the British Columbians respondents are strongly opposed to a vaccine passport. This statistic was echoed in the Sept. 16 BC COVID-19 update, which states that 86.3 percent of the population were given their first dose of the vaccine and close to 79 per cent have received two doses. The vast majority of Cortes Island's adult population was vaccinated at Gorge Hall, or the Klahoose village, earlier this spring. Chart from the Insights West press release: The Vast Majority (79%), Of BC Residents Support The Idea Of Proof Of Double-Vaccinations In Order To Participate In Many Public Activities In BC, And Even More (over 8-in-10) Support Mandatory Vaccinations For Certain Professions. Photo courtesy of Insights West. Nancy Beach is one of the Cortes Island residents who opposes the passport's perceived violation of the Canadian constitution. She has written her MP, Rachel Blaney, her MLA, Michele Babchuk, and the local public health office. Beach was also one of the people who recently protested against the vaccine passport in Campbell River's Spirit Square. She cited Alberta-based Justice Centre for Constitutional Reform (JCCF) statements that the shots “are experimental” and clinical trials of the vaccine will not be complete until 2023. JCCF opposes the vaccine passports, arguing that the government should make the vaccines available to Canadians who want it, but their involvement should end there. JCCF did not respond to a CKTZ News request for an interview on Sept. 6, but two days latter issued a press release stating, “BC's vaccination requirement infringes Charter rights and freedoms. To be constitutional, vaccine passports must be ‘demonstrably justified' by the evidence.” Meanwhile the number of COVID cases within the Greater Campbell River Health Area has risen to levels not seen since the pandemic arrived in March 2020. Data from North Island Medical Health Officer Charmaine Enns' June 16, 2021, address to the City of Campbell River and the BC Centre for Disease Controls Epi-Week maps- Chart by Roy L Hales Semnani says there could be exceptional circumstances where someone could argue that their charter rights are being violated, for example when they cannot take the vaccine for medical reasons. She added that even then, it would still be very difficult to make the argument that is was an illegal violation of charter rights. “Section 1 says all of the rights and freedoms in the Charter are subject to reasonable limit as can be demonstratively justified in a free and democratic society,” explained Semnani. “So if we can say that the vaccine passport is reasonable, it's proportional due to the fact we have a global pandemic that is killing many, many, many people, then asking for a passport is a reasonable limit on people's rights.” Photo credit: Posters used against the vaccine passport in Campbell River, Sep 1, 2021 - Nancy Beach photo

Pastor Nancy Beach joins Judson Chapel to talk humility and tell stories from her family.

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Imprint Companion is the only podcast on the Australian Internet about "DVD Culture."Hang onto your slipcases because Alexei Toliopoulos (Finding Drago, Total Reboot) and Blake Howard (One Heat Minute) team up to unbox, unpack and unveil upcoming releases from Australia's brand new boutique Blu-Ray label Imprint Films. This is the first episode on the July 2021 Imprint Films drop, and we're talking Imprints 57-60:The Brotherhood of Satan (1971)Haunted (1995)The Awakening (1980)The Dead Zone (1983)The Brotherhood of Satan (1971)While driving through the Southwest with his daughter and girlfriend, a man stumbles upon a small town plagued by the disappearance of several children and the murders of their parents. He stays on to assist the local sheriff, his deputy, the local priest, and a physician as they try to solve the mystery.Special Features and Technical Specs:1080p presentation from a 2K scan from the original negativeNEW Audio Commentary by author Troy Howarth and Mondo Digital's Nathaniel Thompson (2021)NEW “THE DEVIL YOU KNOW” Inside LQ/Jaf Productions with author/film historian Justin Humphreys (2021)LPCM 2.0 MonoOptional English subtitlesTheatrical TrailerHaunted (1995)Haunted is a classic romantic ghost story starring Aiden Quinn & Kate Beckinsale. Directed by Lewis Gilbert (The Spy Who Loved Me, Alfie & Moonraker). Based on the best-selling book by James Herbert.David Ash, Professor of Para-Psychology, is called to investigate the hauntings at Edbrook House.As David starts his investigation, he becomes aware of a presence in the house that goes against everything he believes. Slowly he is worn down by strange and terrifying things that happen to him, until ultimately, he is driven to question his own sanity.Special Features and Technical Specs:1080p High-Definition presentationNEW Audio commentary with film critics Kim Newman & Stephen Jones (2021)NEW “SEEING THINGS: FILMING HAUNTED” – Interview with cinematographer Tony Pierce-Roberts. (2021)NEW “FEELING THINGS: ACTING HAUNTED” – Interview with actor Alex Lowe. (2021)NEW “HEARING THINGS: SCORING HAUNTED” – Interview with composer Debbie Wiseman. (2021)Vintage Making of HauntedPhoto galleryTheatrical TrailerLPCM 2.0 StereoOptional English subtitlesTheatrical TrailerThe Awakening (1980)An archaeologist is in Egypt with his pregnant wife searching for the tomb of Queen Kara. As he opens its cursed seal, his wife gives birth. Later it transpires that Kara's evil spirit left the tomb and possessed the baby. Now a teenager, she's caused several deaths and her father must destroy her before it's too late.Based on Bram Stoker's novel The Jewel of Seven Stars and starring Charlton Heston, Susannah York, Jill Townsend, and Stephanie Zimbalist.Special Features and Technical Specs:NEW 2K scan from the original negativeNEW Audio commentary with film critics Kim Newman & Stephen Jones (2021)NEW “REINCARNATE: ADAPTING THE JEWEL OF THE SEVEN STARS” – Interview with author/historian Richard Heft. (2021)NEW “THE NAMELESS ONE: SCORING THE AWAKENING” – Interview with orchestrator Nancy Beach. (2021)Theatrical TrailerLPCM 2.0 StereoOptional English subtitlesTheatrical TrailerThe Dead Zone (1983)Johnny Smith (Christopher Walken) wakes from a coma due to a car accident, only to find he has lost five years of his life, and yet gained psychic powers. Foreseeing the future appears to be a ‘gift' at first, but ends up causing problems.The Dead Zone is based on a novel by Stephen King, directed by David Cronenberg (“Scanners”, “The Fly”) and produced by Debra Hill (“Halloween”, “The Fog”).Special Features and Technical Specs:1080p presentation from a 2K scan from the original negativeNEW “Look Past The Future: Filming The Dead Zone” – An all new interview with cinematographer Mark Irwin (2021)NEW “From Coma To Coda: Scoring The Dead Zone” – An all new interview with composer Edward Shearmur (Reign of Fire) discussing Michael Kamen's score. (2021)NEW “DINO IN THE DARK: ADAPTING THE KING OF HORROR” – An all-new documentary featuring interviews with Mark L. Lester (Firestarter), Mark Irwin (The Dead Zone), Lewis Teague (Cat's Eye), Dan Attias (Silver Bullet), Mick Garris (The Stand), Tom McLoughlin (Sometimes They Come Back), Tony Magistrale (Hollywood's Stephen King), and more! (2021)NEW Visual Essay on The Dead Zone by film Critic Lee Gambin (2021)Audio commentary by film critics Stephen Jones and Kim Newman (2002)Memories from the Dead Zone 2006 featuretteThe Look of the Dead Zone 2006 featuretteVisions and Horror from the Dead Zone featuretteThe Politics of the Dead Zone 2006 featurette1983 Vintage interviews with David Cronenberg, Debra Hill & Martin Sheen2018 interview with Stephen KingTrailerDTS HD 5.1 surround + LPCM 2.0 StereoOptional English subtitlesTheatrical TrailerBlake Howard - Twitter & One Heat Minute Website Alexei Toliopoulos - Twitter & Total RebootVisit imprintfilms.com.au Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/imprint-companion/donations

A Serious Disc Agreement is the only "serious" podcast on the Australian Internet about "Movie Disc Culture."Hang onto your slipcases because Alexei Toliopoulos (Finding Drago, Total Reboot) and Blake Howard (One Heat Minute) team up to unbox, unpack and unveil upcoming releases from Australia's brand new boutique Blu-Ray label Imprint Films. This is the first episode on the July 2021 Imprint Films drop, and we're talking Imprints 57-60:The Brotherhood of Satan (1971)Haunted (1995)The Awakening (1980)The Dead Zone (1983)The Brotherhood of Satan (1971)While driving through the Southwest with his daughter and girlfriend, a man stumbles upon a small town plagued by the disappearance of several children and the murders of their parents. He stays on to assist the local sheriff, his deputy, the local priest, and a physician as they try to solve the mystery.Special Features and Technical Specs:1080p presentation from a 2K scan from the original negativeNEW Audio Commentary by author Troy Howarth and Mondo Digital's Nathaniel Thompson (2021)NEW “THE DEVIL YOU KNOW” Inside LQ/Jaf Productions with author/film historian Justin Humphreys (2021)LPCM 2.0 MonoOptional English subtitlesTheatrical TrailerHaunted (1995)Haunted is a classic romantic ghost story starring Aiden Quinn & Kate Beckinsale. Directed by Lewis Gilbert (The Spy Who Loved Me, Alfie & Moonraker). Based on the best-selling book by James Herbert.David Ash, Professor of Para-Psychology, is called to investigate the hauntings at Edbrook House.As David starts his investigation, he becomes aware of a presence in the house that goes against everything he believes. Slowly he is worn down by strange and terrifying things that happen to him, until ultimately, he is driven to question his own sanity.Special Features and Technical Specs:1080p High-Definition presentationNEW Audio commentary with film critics Kim Newman & Stephen Jones (2021)NEW “SEEING THINGS: FILMING HAUNTED” – Interview with cinematographer Tony Pierce-Roberts. (2021)NEW “FEELING THINGS: ACTING HAUNTED” – Interview with actor Alex Lowe. (2021)NEW “HEARING THINGS: SCORING HAUNTED” – Interview with composer Debbie Wiseman. (2021)Vintage Making of HauntedPhoto galleryTheatrical TrailerLPCM 2.0 StereoOptional English subtitlesTheatrical TrailerThe Awakening (1980)An archaeologist is in Egypt with his pregnant wife searching for the tomb of Queen Kara. As he opens its cursed seal, his wife gives birth. Later it transpires that Kara's evil spirit left the tomb and possessed the baby. Now a teenager, she's caused several deaths and her father must destroy her before it's too late.Based on Bram Stoker's novel The Jewel of Seven Stars and starring Charlton Heston, Susannah York, Jill Townsend, and Stephanie Zimbalist.Special Features and Technical Specs:NEW 2K scan from the original negativeNEW Audio commentary with film critics Kim Newman & Stephen Jones (2021)NEW “REINCARNATE: ADAPTING THE JEWEL OF THE SEVEN STARS” – Interview with author/historian Richard Heft. (2021)NEW “THE NAMELESS ONE: SCORING THE AWAKENING” – Interview with orchestrator Nancy Beach. (2021)Theatrical TrailerLPCM 2.0 StereoOptional English subtitlesTheatrical TrailerThe Dead Zone (1983)Johnny Smith (Christopher Walken) wakes from a coma due to a car accident, only to find he has lost five years of his life, and yet gained psychic powers. Foreseeing the future appears to be a ‘gift' at first, but ends up causing problems.The Dead Zone is based on a novel by Stephen King, directed by David Cronenberg (“Scanners”, “The Fly”) and produced by Debra Hill (“Halloween”, “The Fog”).Special Features and Technical Specs:1080p presentation from a 2K scan from the original negativeNEW “Look Past The Future: Filming The Dead Zone” – An all new interview with cinematographer Mark Irwin (2021)NEW “From Coma To Coda: Scoring The Dead Zone” – An all new interview with composer Edward Shearmur (Reign of Fire) discussing Michael Kamen's score. (2021)NEW “DINO IN THE DARK: ADAPTING THE KING OF HORROR” – An all-new documentary featuring interviews with Mark L. Lester (Firestarter), Mark Irwin (The Dead Zone), Lewis Teague (Cat's Eye), Dan Attias (Silver Bullet), Mick Garris (The Stand), Tom McLoughlin (Sometimes They Come Back), Tony Magistrale (Hollywood's Stephen King), and more! (2021)NEW Visual Essay on The Dead Zone by film Critic Lee Gambin (2021)Audio commentary by film critics Stephen Jones and Kim Newman (2002)Memories from the Dead Zone 2006 featuretteThe Look of the Dead Zone 2006 featuretteVisions and Horror from the Dead Zone featuretteThe Politics of the Dead Zone 2006 featurette1983 Vintage interviews with David Cronenberg, Debra Hill & Martin Sheen2018 interview with Stephen KingTrailerDTS HD 5.1 surround + LPCM 2.0 StereoOptional English subtitlesTheatrical TrailerBlake Howard - Twitter & One Heat Minute Website Alexei Toliopoulos - Twitter & Total RebootVisit imprintfilms.com.au Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/one-heat-minute-productions/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Rob and Lance interview Nancy Beach. Nancy Beach is most known for her groundbreaking ministry to more fully unleash the arts in the local church, and for leading artists with grace, wisdom, and skill. For over 20 years she served as the Programming Director of Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, building a community of artists who sought to create transformational moments in weekend church services. Nancy also served as a Teaching Pastor, periodically bringing the weekend message. She invested five years as a leadership team member of the Willow Creek Association, an organization that exists to envision and inspire church leaders all over the world. In over 26 countries and on 6 continents, Nancy has shared her passion, teaching at conferences and workshops.

Today I interview Creative Leader, Nancy Beach, about how to find your courage and continue to persist in areas of culture as it relates to ethnicity and gender. How can creative people lead the way with their art? Connect with me at nikkilerner.com

Roy L Hales/ Cortes Currents - Curt Cunningham first encountered the Squirrel Cove Bear while it was still a cub. Not knowing where the creature's mother was, Cunningham took refuge inside the Cove Restaurant. No mother bear appeared and the cub disappeared into the woods. That was a year or more ago. interviews, by ZOOM, Skype or email, with Nancy Beach, Laurel Bohart, Curt cunningham, Sandy Hoffman, Derek and Lore Mack-Mumford, and Conservation officer Brad Adams.

If you've ever felt lost in a transition in life--whether it's a change you've initiated or a change that's come to you--then you do not want to miss this episode with Nancy Beach (http://www.nancylbeach.com/books), author, speaker and leadership coach.  Nancy has shepherded me through multiple leadership transitions in my own life and has been a pioneer and trailblazer as a woman in ministry and in living out the gospel through her life, including in her role of breaking the silence of abuse and coverup with Bill Hybels at Willow Creek Church. (http://www.nancylbeach.com/blog/myresponsetotheapology) Together, Nancy and I talk about: What it feels like to "jump" out of a season and into the unknown How hard seasons prepare you for the future The three distinct seasons of transition & change Why the "neutral" zone is the most unsettling part of change How to handle loss well Also, I really do fangirl over Nancy for several minutes because that's how much she's meant to me over my entire ministry career...cannot wait for you all to learn from her and appreciate her wisdom like I have!! Resources: Transitions by William Bridges (https://www.amazon.com/Transitions-Making-Changes-Revised-Anniversary/dp/073820904X) The Way of Transitions by William Bridges (https://www.amazon.com/Way-Transition-Embracing-Difficult-Moments/dp/073820529X) The Land Between by Jeff Manion (https://www.christianbook.com/land-between-finding-god-difficult-transitions/jeff-manion/9780310318668/pd/318668?en=google&event=SHOP&kw=books-0-20%7C318668&p=1179710&dv=c&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8rT8BRCbARIsALWiOvQb4tVUq_VKAG6JsqvlMk516iHR2lFj16uVJAbkesDVPY2IF-oJ6jAaArLKEALw_wcB) Falling Upward by Richard Rohr (https://www.amazon.com/Falling-Upward-Spirituality-Halves-Life/dp/0470907754/ref=sr_1_2?crid=32VVHADLOI2QG&dchild=1&keywords=falling+upward+by+richard+rohr&qid=1603135524&s=books&sprefix=falling+upward%2Cstripbooks%2C137&sr=1-2) _Nancy Beach is most known for her groundbreaking ministry to more fully unleash the arts in the local church, and for leading artists with grace, wisdom, and skill.  For over 20 years she served as the Programming Director of Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, building a community of artists who sought to create transformational moments in weekend church services. Nancy also served as a Teaching Pastor, periodically bringing the weekend message.  She invested five years as a leadership team member of the Willow Creek Association, an organization that exists to envision and inspire church leaders all over the world. In over 26 countries and on 6 continents, Nancy has shared her passion, teaching at conferences and workshops. In her book, An Hour on Sunday, Nancy expresses the core vision and values which she believes are foundational to any effective arts ministry. Nancy's second book is titled: Gifted to Lead: The Art of Leading as a Woman in the Church._

Nancy Beach helped to innovatively bring different expressions of the arts into the church culture over the past several decades. Her first book, "An Hour on Sunday", helps to express a vision for an effective arts ministry. She currently serves as a leadership coach and wrote her second book about leading as a woman in the church, called "Gifted to Lead". She shares with how we don't have to put authenticity and excellence at odds, teaching leaders how to say goodbye in order to make room for the next generation, seeing women and men partnering together in leadership, and surrounding ourselves with beauty and thoughtfulness.

This episode marks the One Year Anniversary of the Enneagram in Your REALIFE Podcast!  Through REALIFE stories, interviews, and practical application we continue to invite you to consider how the tool of the Enneagram can apply in your life and work.  We are so grateful for you as listeners and are humbled in the past year to have over 36,000 downloads and have given away over 130 FREE Enneagram Typing Guides! It's been truly extraordinary!!  Thanks for celebrating with us and taking the time to savor some of the highlights of the past 52 weeks!  Enneagram in Your REALIFE Podcast Year One Highlights  Top Downloaded Episodes 001: What's Your Type? 003: [Type 6] It Takes Courage with Guest, Erica Vinson Top Downloaded Guest Episode 025: [Type 9] A Conversation with Marilyn Vancil - Enneagram Author of Self to Lose, Self to Find Integrating the Enneagram with Other Great Tools 020: The Enneagram and DiSC Profile – A Conversation with Ashley Logsdon 021: The Enneagram and Essential Oils – A Conversation with Kari Coody  040: The Intersection of Strengths and the Enneagram – A Great Conversation with Chris Heinz Notable Guests 007: A Great Conversation with Enneagram Professionals, Clare and Scott Loughrige 016: [Type 3] A Great Conversation with Leadership Coach, Nancy Beach 019: A Great Conversation with the Authors of Spiritual Rhythms for the Enneagram 023: [Type 5] A Conversation with Dan Miller – Author of 48 Days to the Work you Love 029: Great Conversation with Chad Jeffers, Guitarist for Carrie Underwood Distraction Zones Series 004: [Types 8,9,1] Distraction Zones of the Body Center 005: [Types 2,3,4] Distraction Zones of the Heart Center 006: [Types 5,6,7] Distraction Zones of the Head Center Communication Series 013: [Harmony Triad 8,5,2] Communication with the Tool of the Enneagram 014: [Harmony Triad 7,4,1] Communication with the Tool of the Enneagram 015: [Harmony Triad 3,6,9] Communication with the Tool of the Enneagram Leadership Series 008: [Harmony Triad 3,6,9] Leadership with the Tool of the Enneagram 009: [Harmony Triad 8,5,2] Leadership with the Tool of the Enneagram 010: [Harmony Triad 7,4,1] Leadership with the Tool of the Enneagram The Enneagram In REALWORK Series 038: Start with Your People – A Great Conversation with Brian Dixon 039: Stacking Your Team – A Great Conversation with Shelli Warren 044: Going All-In with THE ENNEAGAME™ with Chris & John Niemeyer 047: The Millennial Whisperer: A Great Conversation with Chris Tuff REALIFE & Embracing the Holidays Series 017: REAL is Something You Become–My REALIFE Story 035: A REALIFE Conversation with Shawn and Kathleen Loughrige – Processing Grief through the Enneagram  049: Bringing Our Stories Forward with Terri Johnson & Erica Vinson 051: Embracing the Holidays as a Single Dad with Rob Henson As we celebrate this first year of the Enneagram in Your REALIFE Podcast, we're looking forward in 2020 to continuing the conversation each week applying the Enneagram in your life to discover how accessing the best parts of you–IQ, EQ, and GQ–can help move you forward in the things that matter most!  Thanks again for walking with us on the journey!  REALIFE Resources from this Episode: As we move into 2020, the REALIFE Process® is creating space for authentic community through our REALIFE Retreats. Registration is open now for our first retreat that we'll be hosting February 21-23 at the heart of the REALIFE Process® on the McCloy Farm in Mason, IL. Click here for all the details and registration information!  If you're interested in experiencing the harmony of the Enneagram and the wholeness it invites you to: Download our FREE REALIFE Enneagram Typing Guide   Start your discovery with a REALIFE Enneagram Personality Profile  If you're an Enneagram practitioner or enthusiast looking to use the tool in the work that you do, check out REALIFE Enneagram Circles.  REALIFE Enneagram Circles offers three weeks of training through StartingPoint to explore–the 3 Centers of Intelligence, the 9 Enneagram Types, and the Harmony Triad Model followed by a monthly membership community with access to done for you resources to use the tool of the Enneagram with clients and those with whom you serve.   A brand new cohort will be starting in February 2020! Connect with your host, Teresa McCloy on: Facebook- Teresa McCloy Coaching Instagram- teresa.mccloy LinkedIn- teresamccloycoach  Work with the REALIFE Process®: Visit https://teresamccloy.com/work-with-me/ to see many of the ways we can partner together!  JOIN THE REALIFE PROCESS TRIBE About Teresa McCloy: Teresa McCloy is the creator of the REALIFE Process®, an ACC Executive Coach, and an IEA Accredited Enneagram Professional who helps entrepreneurs, business owners, and leaders discover and live out their best REALIFE! She has worked with clients from all over the world to help them bring clarity to their REALIFE and joy to their REALWORK!

(00:00-09:25): Billionaire says his wealth can’t replace Jesus, reiterates every human is broken. Brian and Ian touch on the love of money and how people ought to be content with God alone and not money. (09:25-18:14): We are joined by ministry leader and author Nancy Beach. She shares her extensive history in the Church and work in the arts ministry at Willow Creek. She became a teaching pastor, and eventually became a leadership coach to various pastors and ministry leaders. She touches on the topic of ‘church pain’ and shares her experience with it as well as how to overcome it. (18:14-26:00): Nancy sticks around to talk more about her experience with pain in the church and how she’s walked through it. She endured and experienced abuse and made the tough decision of making her statement public with her name included. She says the abuse of power is the biggest problem with church leaders. (26:00-33:50): Nancy closes out the hour talking about her book “Gifted to Lead: The Art of Leading as a Woman in the Church”. She discusses how, at first, being in a position of leadership as a woman was a lonely place. She will be speaking at the Restore Chicago Conference on November 2 at Judson University. (34:54-44:49): Liner - 222 - Evangelical Pastor to Greta Thunberg: Don't Worry, God Promised Not to Flood Earth Again. Brian and Ian talk about the movement of climate justice as well as the narrative that young activists are naive. (44:49-55:19): We are joined by Phil Vischer, creator of VeggieTales and the author of the “Laugh and Learn Bible For Kids”. He touches on the teaching power of the show as well as the importance of kids getting the big picture of the bible. (55:19-1:05:26): Phil sticks around to talk about the new VeggieTales episodes and how he aims to make it like the VeggieTales of old. Sony and Universal are picking up the show and airing it on Trinity Broadcast Network. Phil also touches on his podcast “The Holy Post”. (1:05:26-1:11:49): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”: A Florida town isn’t big enough for the two of us, and seriously people just take a late write-up. Beer is the cause and solution to most of life’s problems, and United has a new preventative lock on their bathrooms that works too well. Meanwhile, labradoodles are the devilSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Show Transcript After experiencing hurt and disappointment with the church and church leaders, how do you move on? This week on The Roys Report, on a special program, we'll hear highlights from the Restore Chicago conference. You'll hear Nancy Beach and Wade Mullen describe not only how to survive but thrive after experiencing spiritual abuse. And I'll tell why I believe we're in the midst of a move of God to purify the church.  

We are joined by ministry leader and author Nancy Beach. She shares her extensive history in the Church and work in the arts ministry at Willow Creek. She became a teaching pastor, and eventually became a leadership coach to various pastors and ministry leaders. She touches on the topic of ‘church pain’ and shares her experience with it as well as how to overcome it. Nancy has always been a passionate champion for artists and leaders in the local church. For over 20 years she served as the Programming Director for Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, building a community of artists who sought to create transformational moments in Sunday morning church services. Nancy also served as a Teaching Pastor, periodically bringing the weekend message. Currently, Nancy serves as a leadership coach with the SlingShot Group, helping church leaders and teams to flourish in life and ministry. Nancy also uses her teaching gifts to cast vision at conferences and workshops, for both artists and women in leadership. In her book, An Hour on Sunday, Nancy expresses the core vision and values which she believes are foundational to any effective arts ministry. Nancy’s second book is titled:Gifted to Lead: the Art of Leading as a Woman in the Church.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-09:20): Lauren Daigle’s 'You Say' Breaks Billboard Record, Becomes Biggest Christian Song of All Time. It has been the leader of the charts for 28 weeks, surpassing Hilsong’s ‘Oceans’ which set the previous record. Brian and Ian talk about the significance of Christian music and how it may be becoming mainstream. (09:20-18:58): We are joined by ministry leader and author Nancy Beach. She shares her extensive history in the Church and work in the arts ministry at Willow Creek. She became a teaching pastor, and eventually became a leadership coach to various pastors and ministry leaders. She touches on the topic of ‘church pain’ and shares her experience with it as well as how to overcome it. (18:58-27:48): Nancy sticks around to talk more about her experience with pain in the church and how she’s walked through it. She endured and experienced abuse and made the tough decision of making her statement public with her name included. She says the abuse of power is the biggest problem with church leaders. (27:48-36:36): Nancy closes out the hour talking about her book “Gifted to Lead: The Art of Leading as a Woman in the Church”. She discusses how, at first, being in a position of leadership as a woman was a lonely place. She will be speaking at the Restore Chicago Conference on November 2 at Judson University. (36:36-46:50): Ellen Degenneres attended a Dallas Cowboys game with former President George Bush, and people weren’t happy about it. She made a statement saying “When I say be kind...I mean to be kind to everyone”. Brian and Ian talk about being civil with those we don’t agree with. (46:50-56:51): Should Christians have retirement? Book offers biblical alternative to culture of self-indulgence. Brian and Ian touch on this Christian Post article by Samuel Smith talking about continuing the mission even after you retire. (56:51-1:06:52): We are joined via phone by Danny Yohannan from Gospel For Asia. He talks about the importance of the International Day of the Girl Child. The fight to end human trafficking around the world is ongoing and this organization is laying the groundwork for awareness. (1:06-52-1:13:37): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”: Pennsylvania man gets gobbled by aggressive turkeys. Apparently you can’t drive scooters while under the influence...of Germany. FIRE IN THE HOLE! The watering hole that is. Unfortunate news out of Indiana: All the bagels burn. Meanwhile, meth looks nothing like a hair bow.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Guest Bios Show Transcript Two Churches in the Chicago area have been rocked by scandal. Now, how does the Christian community move forward? And how do those hurt by these scandals, the so-called church refugees, find healing? This week on The Roys Report, I'll have two refugees from Willow Creek Community Church and one from Harvest Bible Chapel join me. Also joining me will be two area pastors whose churches have taken in a number of refugees.  I really hope you can join us for The Roys Report, this Saturday morning at 11 on AM 1160 Hope for Your Life and on Sunday night at 7 on AM 560 The Answer! This Weeks Guests Joe Thorn Joe Thorn is the Lead Pastor of Redeemer Fellowship in St. Charles, Illinois, and the author of several books, including Note to Self and Experiencing the Trinity. He has been a columnist for Ligonier's Tabletalk magazine and is the co-host (with Jimmy Fowler) of the podcast Doctrine & Devotion. Dave Jones David has been privileged to serve as Senior Pastor at Village Church since 2010.  He seeks to combine the in-depth study of Scripture with a shepherd's heart.  He has been married to Helen for more than thirty years.  They have three grown sons, two daughters-in-law, and one grandson.    Rob Speight Rob Speight graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary and served in vocational ministry prior to working in the market place and attending and volunteering at Willow Creek for 27 years.  Rob started a blog when the Bill Hybels scandal became public.   Carol Behrends Lifelong Christian. . . Survivor of toxic fundamentalism and sexual abuse. . . in attendance at Willow Creek since 1980 (theater days). . . zealot for Truth and accountability Terri Streich Terri was a member of Harvest Bible Chapel for 15 years until she left 1 1/2 years ago. She has also been in Women's ministry as a counselor for 9+years. Currently she is a member of Redeemer Fellowship St Charles, Ill. with her husband of 35 years Dave. Together they have 3 children and 4 grandchildren. Show Transcript Note: This transcript has been edited slightly for continuity. Segment 1 JULIE ROYS:  Welcome to The Roys Report, brought to you in part by Judson University.  I am Julie Roys and today, we're going to be talking about a topic that has absolutely ravaged the Christian community in the Chicago area. And, if you've been listening to the news, you know that in the past 18 months, two major, evangelical megachurches have been rocked by scandal.  First, Willow Creek Community Church, one of the 10 largest churches in the United States—experienced major upheaval after allegations of sexual misconduct surfaced concerning founder Bill Hybels.  Initially, the women who brought those allegations were discredited by the church. But as evidence against Hybels mounted, senior leaders and elders recanted, and resigned. Yet many say the damage that is done is just too much and they've left the church.  Attendance at Willow is down at least 15-percent at Willow's main campus—and at least 9-percent overall.  Then several months later, another megachurch—Harvest Bible Chapel—was upended when its pastor, James MacDonald, was accused of rampant wrongdoing. This included financial misappropriation, bullying, and shocking vulgar speech that was aired on morning-drive radio here in Chicago.  The results were similar.  All the executive staff resigned. The elders resigned.  And there was a major exodus of people away from the church. Obviously, this has sent shock waves throughout the Chicago area.  There are literally thousands of so-called church refugees—people who feel betrayed and hurt and are in need of healing. At the same time, these people are suspicious of anyone in spiritual leadership. Some don't want anything to do with the church. Yet there are others who are coming into these area churches and they're looking for healing and they're looking and longing for help.  And then there are pastors—many of whom are godly, hardworking, and often underpaid.  Yet now, they're viewed with suspicion.  And God forbid, they ask for money or any commitment from people in the pews.  This has become trigger issues for people who are coming into their churches. So how does the Christian community recover from this? How do we move forward as the Bride of Christ? And can we ever again be a city on a hill?  Well, that's what I'm going to explore today. And I've gathered a very special group of people to help me do that. With me today are two Chicago-area pastors and three so-called church refugees. The pastors are Dave Jones, senior pastor of Village Church of Barrington.  And Dave and I met while I was reporting on Harvest Bible Chapel.  In fact, he was a great source of information for me so I'm very grateful for that, Dave.  Dave, you also were on staff at Harvest Bible Chapel—ten years served there, and I know also your church has become just a major wide-open door for an awful lot of refugees.  So welcome to the program.  I'm just really glad to have you. DAVE JONES:  Thank you.  Glad to be here. JULIE ROYS:  Also joining me is Joe Thorn, pastor of Redeemer Fellowship in suburban St. Charles.  Joe also hosts a podcast called Doctrine and Devotion.  And Joe and I also met while I was reporting on Harvest Bible Chapel.  You had me in, I think it was pretty early.  It was after my World piece had hit—that expose which I think was mid-December—came in and really enjoyed the opportunity and had a good time with Joe.  But I know you've been impacted as well and you have a number of refugees at your church.  Correct?   JOE THORN:  Yeah.  Over the years, even before this broke, people started to kind of bail on Harvest for various reasons.  And some of them have made their way towards Redeemer. JULIE ROYS:  Okay.  Let me start with you, Dave, because I know you've had, I think, when I interviewed you, you said maybe 300 or so had come from Harvest at some period of time, stayed for at least six months or more.  I'm guessing that was with, there was kind of like two waves.  There was 2012 when there was gambling exposed and then there was this ex-communication of elders which a lot of people left then.  Then the church kind of rebounded and then this latest, you know, revelations of wrong doing and, you know, James eventually got fired by the church.  Has that brought in another wave, I'm guessing? DAVE JONES:  Yes, it has.  You know, we did have several hundred people, actually, that came from, you know, during like 1.0 and now there's another wave coming yet again.  And we have not tried to, you know, we have no way of really counting that or anything but we are seeing visitors every service, every weekend. JULIE ROYS:  Yeah.  So tell me, I mean, what's it like being a pastor of a church that's receiving these refugees?  Like, what has it been like the past 6-9 months at your church? DAVE JONES:  Well, obviously we're seeing new people every weekend.  So we're trying to, you know, be welcoming and outgoing toward them and just trying to let them find a place where they can find healing.  We get the context.  We know what's happening there.  And so we've just tried to love and we've tried to model Christ-likeness the best we can.  And let them reestablish confidence in the church and in church leadership. JULIE ROYS:  And when you say you get it not only do you get it because you've been there.  But you've experienced spiritual abuse.  Can you talk a little bit about that? DAVE JONES:  Sure.  You know, I was on staff at Harvest for 8 ½ years and that was, you know, I would say those early years were good years.  And there would be occasional things that would happen.  But toward the end especially, my eyes began to get opened to some things.  And once the leadership there got the sense that I was beginning to think and maybe had one foot out the door, it did get really bad.  And so I came out of that situation quite beat up.  And it took me several months just to even get my smile back.  And I was having nightmares.  I was starting to have like some paranoia.  And I was really beginning to wonder if something was wrong with me on the inside.  But God was gracious and through some loving friends who just walked with me through that, and prayed me through it, I did get to a point of healing.  But I would say the healing took place over a 3-4 year period.  So yes, so I get it personally and I also get it corporately. JULIE ROYS:  Yeah, I'm glad you said that about feeling the paranoia and some of that.  I remember when I was reporting on this story and I'm giving these stories to my editor, right?  And I remember one point he said, Julie, these people, you know, I hate to say it, they sound a little crazy.  And I'm like, you should talk to them.  They're not crazy and you have no idea what they've experienced.  And that comment, you know, I know initially, was just getting used to this story.  And now we've seen, as it's come out, the people are traumatized on a level that I think nobody imagined initially.  And the people aren't crazy but what they experienced has been absolutely crazy.  And so I think churches need to be just aware.  So I appreciate that Dave.   So Joe, same question to you.  What has it been like for you the past 6-9 months? JOE THORN:  Well, we have a small church right, relatively small church — 350's probably the average attendance on a Sunday between 3 services.  So we have a small space. JULIE ROYS:  Now why do you do 3 services? JOE THORN:  Because we can't fit everybody into a small space.  Literally it's not to grow, it's to manage the small growth that we have.   JULIE ROYS:  You sure you don't want to start a big building program? Probably not the right time.  (laughter) JOE THORN:  We're not going that way.  We plant churches.  We planted 3 churches out of us so we're sending our people out all the time.  We're not fans of big church for us.  But our people, at Redeemer, don't really have to do anything different than they normally do.  Our congregation, who we are a congregational Baptist church. JULIE ROYS:  Say what that means.  Congregational.  That's a form of government. JOE THORN:  Right.  What it means is that our church is governed or led by a plurality of elders who all function together in parity, meaning, me as the lead pastor, I don't have more say than the volunteer elder.  We all have the same authority.  But the congregational holds us accountable.  They vote on leadership, they vote us in and out.  They can fire me.  They vote on budget.  They vote on members.  So that's a congregational church with a lot of transparency and accountability.  We don't change anything that we're doing other than, because our people are generally nice and welcoming.  They're very warm towards people that are coming in.  The only thing that we've done is we've let our congregation know, a long time ago during our members' meetings, listen these people are hurting.  Some of them are coming in angry.  They're in the rage stage right because they've been betrayed and hurt or abused.  Others are coming in just broken and mourning.  So we just tell them be gentle, give them patience and space but be kind.  And that's all we've had to do.  And our people have warmly welcomed them.  So people, most people from Harvest and that kind of a church, don't come to Redeemer because we are a small, reformed Baptist church.  Culturally it's just very, very different.  But the people that have come, have come because of that almost.  It's like they want to distance themselves from even the culture of what they went through.  Not because the culture was necessarily wrong in every way, but because they want to distance themselves from not only abuse but some of the other trappings and they wind their way towards us.  And I think it's been, for most people that have come and stayed, it's been a pretty seamless transition.   JULIE ROYS:  Yeah.  I mean it's interesting that we mention even in this first segment church government. Because I remember, again, when I was reporting on this, I had all this information, actually I hadn't published yet that about how church government at Harvest changed over time.  And James McDonald took power, you know, and had had this façade of being elder led but it really was James led.  And I think people are asking about church government.  But I remember when I was first reporting, again my editor saying to me, Julie, you and I are interested in that, and about 12 of our readers but that's about it.  You know, I mean people don't care about church government.  I think people care about church government now.  And I think that's a good thing.  I think they need to care about church government.   Real quickly, because we just have like 30 seconds.  What kind of church government do you have Dave? DAVE JONES:  We are also congregational.  We have elders but they are voted on by the congregation. JULIE ROYS:  Okay, so they're actually accountable to the congregation.  That's a very important piece.    Well again you're listening to the The Roys Report.  I'm Julie Roys.  Joining me today Joe Thorn, pastor of Redeemer Fellowship, Dave Jones, pastor of Village Church of Barrington.   And coming up next, I've got some refugees.  Some people who have come from some of these churches who are wounded and hurt and I think you're going to want to hear what they have to say. Stay tuned, I'll be right back.  Segment 2: JULIE ROYS: After being betrayed by a pastor or a church, how do you ever trust again? Welcome back to The Roys Report. I'm Julie Roys. And if you've followed the news at all, you know that two Chicago-area megachurches have been rocked by scandal. At both Willow Creek Community Church and Harvest Bible Chapel, pastors have resigned, or been fired, in disgrace. Elder boards have been replaced. And congregations have shrunk as many people have determined that they no longer can stay in a place where they don't trust the leadership. So, how does the Christian community respond to a crisis like this?  How do area churches welcome literally thousands of people coming to them wounded and hurting? And how do these so-called church refugees heal and learn to trust again? Do they EVER go to a church again?  Our show today is recorded, so I can't take your calls. However, I encourage you to join the live conversation online by going to Facebook.com/ReachJulieRoys. Or to get to me on Twitter, use my handle @ReachJulieRoys. Well today with me are two Chicago-area mega, not mega church pastors. Two Chicago (laughter) pastors—Joe Thorn and Dave Jones. You heard from them in the last segment. But what I want to do now is have you meet three people who have experienced the devastation at Harvest and Willow Creek personally.    First, Terri Streich was a longtime member at Harvest Bible Chapel. In fact, she served in the counseling ministry, but recently she left after experiencing first-hand some of the abuse and the toxic culture there at Harvest.  So, Teri, welcome, great to have you.   TERRI STREICH:  Thank you.  Good to be here.  JULIE ROYS:  Also joining me are two former members at Willow Creek Community Church—Carol Behrends and Rob Speight. Carol was a member at Willow Creek for decades, right Carol, is that right?  And Rob actually served part-time on staff for a time. Both have been disheartened and disillusioned by what they've seen. And I appreciate you coming on as well and being willing to share your stories.  So welcome Carol.  CAROL BEHRENDS:  Thank you. JULIE ROYS:  And welcome Rob. ROB SPEIGHT:  Thanks for having me. JULIE ROYS:  So why don't we start with you Terri.   I know this, I can see it in your eyes, they can't see it, maybe they'll be able to hear it, but this is still raw for you.  I mean, how did you first become aware of the issues at Harvest and how has this impacted you on a personal level?     TERRI STREICH:  Yes, well, it has impacted my husband and I on a personal level. But to give you a little backdrop, we attended Harvest for about 15 years, and it was wonderful at the beginning.  We felt refreshed as if in a dry and weary land. JULIE ROYS:  When was this?  What year? TERRI STREICH:  Boy, you know it's got to be 19 years ago now probably. JULIE ROYS:  Okay. TERRI STREICH:  Off and on.  So, just got plugged in right away and was very honored to be asked to serve in some leadership roles and made some wonderful friendships there. And we loved to serve the Lord and the people that come and that are new to Christianity or that just need encouragement.  Then I got invited to be on staff as the Women's Director in Elgin and over the years the roles somewhat changed and then I did get invited to counsel women at the church and yes. And so for 9 years I was on staff there. And during those 9 years, front row seat witnessed wonderful things of people getting saved but also the things that you only see whether you're on staff or my husband served as an elder for a few years. So we had the interesting dichotomy of once my husband being on the elder board and me being on staff and we would go home and talk about some things. And it was just shocking to both of us in the spin factor on what was said in the congregation from the pulpit and then behind the scenes, whether it's in the staff meetings or in elder meetings. JULIE ROYS:  Two different things and not feeling like they're telling the truth then to the congregation.  And didn't your husband and you, I don't know if you want to talk about it, didn't you originally discover the gambling that James McDonald was involved in? TERRI STREICH:  Yeah, Women's Ministry or the ministries there at Harvest they have small groups and then they have flock leaders that oversee small groups and then elders, of course, oversee the congregation.  But yes, one of the small group, no, one of the flock leaders that I was serving with had witnessed and had heard about some things and so and then there's rumbling behind the scenes.  We sat on it for almost a year, praying about it, hoping, you know, to test it to see if that's true and finally the gal and I went to, you know, one of the pastors and brought this to the attention of the elders and were very concerned . . . JULIE ROYS:  And when you say “this” that James McDonald was gambling in Vegas, right? TERRI STREICH:  Yes, he was yeah.  And the attitude and the language and the amount of money that was being played all in different areas of the city, we were aware of. So we of course brought that to the elder board.  We brought that to Pastor Rick and it was . . . JULIE ROYS:  Rick Donald? TERRI STREICH:  Yeah, he wasn't shocked, I don't believe, but he seemed to listen and then the next elder meeting my husband was there to kind of discuss it a little bit, so. JULIE ROYS:  He wasn't shocked because he probably knew already.  I mean these are some of the things that are coming out.  So much we could talk about. But I want to get everybody involved here.  So Carol you were at Willow Creek Community Church for decades.   CAROL BEHRENDS:  Yes JULIE ROYS:   The only, you grew up, you said, Plymouth Brethren? CAROL BEHRENDS:  Yes JULIE ROYS:  That's an interesting church.  I mean that's a very small church where you're not allowed to have pastors, right? CAROL BEHRENDS:  They choose not.  Yes, that's not their way.  JULIE ROYS:  Yeah. CAROL BEHRENDS:  One-man ministry is not, they think, the way to go. JULIE ROYS:  So you've experienced these two very different churches.  Tell me about Willow. I'm guessing, there were wonderful years. But then it soured for you.  Tell me about that? CAROL BEHRENDS:  Well, growing up in Plymouth Brethren it was like wonderful to come to Willow Creek and see that style of church, yeah, two opposites, that's all I can say.  We jumped right in.  We were small group leaders and my husband was heading up the prison ministry, Exodus, and many, we had several small groups. JULIE ROYS:  And you probably saw a lot of people come to know the Lord in that time? CAROL BEHRENDS:  Yeah, maybe not through the small groups so much.  We had couples that we were bringing along that we were bringing along that who were young Christians and meeting in homes and became very close to the couples and some of them were still, we still travel to visit. JULIE ROYS:  So, when these women came forward, you know, started out with a few in the Chicago Tribune saying that Bill Hybels had, you know, had some sexual misconduct toward them and abusive behavior.  At first when you heard that what was your response? CAROL BEHRENDS:  I believed it immediately. JULIE ROYS:  You did?  And why did you believe it? Because I'm guessing you had a high opinion of Bill Hybels. CAROL BEHRENDS:  I had a high opinion of Nancy Beach and all the other ones. JULIE ROYS:  That's what was, you know, I felt the same way like we had attended Willow actually back in the late 80's, early 90's. And Nancy Beech, Nancy Ortberg, my goodness.  So, but how did, this is your pastor for like decades you know, how did that impact you, to have your pastor now be involved in something like that?  CAROL BEHRENDS:  My pastor suddenly became in the same category of some of the men I had come in contact with in the work place who were, you know, sexual harassment, guilty of. And so then I hear Bill Hybels is behaving the same way so I just lumped him into that category.  JULIE ROYS:  But I'm guessing devastating, yes? CAROL BEHRENDS:  Devastating, shocking, disgusting.  I was disgusted. JULIE ROYS:  Well, and it's interesting you say that about, you know, you kind of think of the people, you've been in the work place.  For women, I know that's me too.  And now, I read those things I'm like, oh yeah, I've had bosses like that, I know what that's like. CAROL BEHRENDS:  I get it. JULIE ROYS:  It's tough and to think that this person that was a spiritual leader, a shepherd over you.  Now, is sort of a wolf. CAROL BEHRENDS:  Exactly. JULIE ROYS:  Yeah and how'd that make you feel about church?   CAROL BEHRENDS:  I don't need church to have a relationship with the Lord. JULIE ROYS:  So you feel done with it? CAROL BEHRENDS:  I am done with it.  For right now, that's where I'm at. JULIE ROYS:  Yeah, understandable.  I get the pain and I get where you're coming from.  Rob you're not going to have a chance to talk in this segment.  I hate to tell you that. ROB SPEIGHT:  That's okay. (laughter) JULIE ROYS:  But when we come back, Rob Speight will tell his story and Rob was at Willow Creek, also served on staff.  So, you have kind of both worlds there from being on staff and being a member. ROB SPEIGHT:  I do. JULIE ROYS: And now you're kind of, you're preaching in a church and doing itinerant thing. ROB SPEIGHT:  Getting back into the pulpit now. JULIE ROYS:  Yeah okay.  And your wife is going to a small group but that's about as much as she can handle right now, right? ROB SPEIGHT:  I'd say that's affirmative. JULIE ROYS:  Yeah, okay.  Well, again, we're going to explore this more when we come back.  You're listening to The Roys Report.  Joining me Carol Behrends, Terri Streich, also Rob Speight and two Chicago area pastors, Dave Jones and also Joe Thorn.  We'll be right back after a short break.  Stay tuned. 3rd Segment JULIE ROYS: Welcome back to The Roys Report, brought to you in part by Judson University.  I'm Julie Roys.  And today, we're discussing Living in the Aftermath of Church Scandals. Here in the Chicago area, we've had two, major scandals—first at Willow Creek Community Church, involving founder Bill Hybels. And then at Harvest Bible Chapel involving former pastor, James MacDonald. Many feel betrayed and duped and are profoundly wary of churches and pastors. And pastors—many of whom are godly and honest—suddenly are viewed with suspicion. In fact, I remember our first show was talking a lot about the Harvest Bible Chapel situation. I got an email from somebody that said, “Man, you sound like you're pastor-bashing.” And I'm like, “Ahh.” It made me feel awful because I do love pastors and I know the majority of them are great people and godly people. But that's just the reality right now. So, as a Christian community—how do we heal? How do we deal with this situation?  Today's show is recorded, so I can't take your calls. But I encourage you to join the live conversation. That's going on online on Facebook.com/ReachJulieRoys. Also, on Twitter, you can use my handle @ReachJulieRoys. Well joining me this morning, two Chicago-area pastors, Joe Thorn and Dave Jones. Also joining me are three people who have left their churches, following scandal there. We just heard in the previous segment from Carol Behrends and Terri Streich. But now I've got Rob Speight. And Rob was at Willow Creek Community Church. But Rob, I'm sure you saw great things at Willow. That's what brought you there. But tell me how you became disillusioned and decided to leave. ROB SPEIGHT: Well, when the story broke, that was the first time I heard it, anything about it, was from the Chicago Tribune in March of 2018. And very much like Carol, I believed it because of the people, and their characters, who were making these claims. And then when I attended the first family meeting, which was a defense of Bill Hybels and a defense of the Elders and how the women were liars and colluders, I immediately began to write to the Elders. Because, even though I'm a lone, or a small voice in large church, I wanted them to know that there were people questioning decisions that were made. And so I started to write to them, and the answers that I continued to receive were lacking in transparency. They were, I don't believe, forthcoming with what was happening. And then eventually, it wasn't too long after, that we stopped attending. But I continued to write to the elders and continued to be shushed. They did not want me speaking up and sharing my thoughts. JULIE ROYS: And then we had, initially what was it, 3 women? Was it 3?  ROB SPEIGHT: Well, it was Vonda Dyer, Nancy Beach,  JULIE ROYS: Nancy Ortberg ROB SPEIGHT: Nancy Ortberg. And then Jimmy and Leanne Mellado were advocates, trying to tell the story of an affair that they knew about, that the elders supposedly investigated . . . JULIE ROYS: And the woman had recanted. Taken back her testimony.  ROB SPEIGHT: They use that as an excuse.  JULIE ROYS: I know . . . ROB SPEIGHT: They use that as an excuse when there are others that know something very different. JULIE ROYS: So since then, though, as it became 10 women or more, and then Pat Baranowski—Bill Hybel's former assistant—when she had her exposé in the New York Times, that seemed to be sort of a, the last straw . . . ROB SPEIGHT: That was the last straw, yes. JULIE ROYS: So then you had Steve Carter resign and apologize. An elder apologized to the congregation. All the elders resigned. It wasn't enough for you, though? ROB SPEIGHT: Steve Carter was, he isn't given enough credit as he deserves for standing up to a machine. And if he hadn't resigned, I'm not sure what would have happened. But he caused, in my opinion, Heather Larson to resign and all the elders to resign. Was it enough? Well it hadn't been enough, because I'd started a blog and I was writing there. And then when there was a meeting called in August, a very spur of the moment meeting, and Heather Larson and the elders resigned, that was enough. And I stopped writing my blog. And I wanted to give Steve Gillen and the new elders to be, space. JULIE ROYS: Well, and we can talk a lot about because just recently there was a meeting, a reconciliation meeting—I know a lot of the victims didn't feel like it was reconciliation at all, didn't feel like—they weren't even mentioned by name. And so, we could talk a lot about those specifics, but I really want to move it now toward what about your feeling now towards the church in general and toward joining another church? You've left Willow, how do you feel about joining another church? ROB SPEIGHT: I like the idea of joining another church. I like the idea of being part of a community. Do I look with a jaundiced eye at what might be going on behind the scene? Ya, I do. JULIE ROYS: You're skeptical. ROB SPEIGHT: I am skeptical. But, for good reason. But I also know that God uses the local church. God wants his followers to be part of a community, and to build into each other's lives and to use their spiritual gifts. And that happens in the local church. JULIE ROYS: But you're kind of in a wasteland right now. I kind of understand that. We're going to need to go to break. When we come back, I want to hear just briefly, what do you need to hear from a pastor for you to feel safe there. Then I'm going to give our pastors a chance to respond to that. Just reminds me, I remember when we were looking for a church years and years ago and we'd had a bad experience on staff at the church. Really bad. Very wounded. And I remember meeting with a pastor, which it took about 6 to 9 months to get a meeting with the pastor. Finally got a meeting with the pastor and he looked at me and he said, “You know, I just get the feeling that you're not that excited about this church and that enthused.” And I looked at him and I'm like, “Well, yeah, you know, but it's kinda the best we could find. We love the church with its warts and everything else, so we're just going to roll up our sleeves and serve.” And he looked at me and he said, “Well, if that's how you feel, you can't serve at this church. We want people who are enthusiastic.” Needless to say, we walked out of that meeting and we didn't join that church. I know some of you are listening, you can relate to this. I hope you'll stick with us, we're going to come right back after a short break. Again, you're listening to The Roys Report with Julie Roys. Joining me, 2 area pastors, 3 Harvest and Willow Creek refugees. It's going to be a great discussion. Hope you stay with us.  4th Segment JULIE ROYS: Well, how does the Christian community recover from church scandals? Welcome back to The Roys Report. I'm Julie Roys. And today, we're tackling a painful subject that has impacted so many people here in the Chicago area, but also around the country. Of course, in Chicago, we've had two major church scandals involving Willow Creek Community Church and Harvest Bible Chapel. But unfortunately, these scandals are not isolated. I can still remember back in the 80s and probably a lot of you listening can remember this as well when Jimmy Swaggert, that scandal hit. When the PTL scandal and Jim Bakker hit. It was disillusioning. It really was, not that I was a big follower of Jim Bakker or Jimmy Swaggert but man, that was the first big evangelical scandal and I just didn't think that was possible for us.  These scandals are so, so painful. And they shouldn't happen. Pastors should love and protect the sheep, not fleece and abuse them. But that is what has been the reality at some of these churches. And what do we do when this unthinkable thing happens? Well, we're going to jump back into that discussion in just a minute. But first, I want to remind you this month for a gift of any size to this ministry I am giving away copies of the book by apologist Norm Geisler, an amazing defender of the Christian Faith, who just passed away last month. The book is I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist. And it's a great read by someone I greatly admired. And if you read any of my coverage of the battle for inerrancy at the Moody Bible Institute last year, you'll see Norm's name because I interviewed him several times about the issue. He was so passionate about the truth and inerrancy. And I'm thrilled to offer his book. So if you'd like to support this ministry and get a copy of I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist just go to my website JulieRoys.com and click on the donate button. Also, I want to let you know, if you've missed any part of today's broadcast or just want to listen again, or share it with friends, the audio of today's program will be posted by 1:00 pm today to my website. And again, the website is JulieRoys.com.  You know it's funny, I even feel this because I just asked for donations, that there's a sense in this room, my goodness how dare she (laughter) and I get that. I will say this, we have made a commitment to publishing a line item budget and how much I have made or taken out of that. I can promise you it's a part-time salary to do this radio program. It is nothing anywhere on the level that we have seen by megachurch pastors. But again, I believe completely in open and complete conversation about that and being transparent. But part of that is because it has to be.  So, let me return to this conversation, Rob and I had said this before the break. Again joining me is Rob Speight. Rob is a former member at Willow Creek Community church. Rob, what do pastors need to know about you and people like you that are walking through their door? ROB SPEIGHT: I believe the folks who are visiting churches who have come out of places like Willow Creek and Harvest Bible Chapel, they're going thru various stages of grief. And there are those who want to be left alone. They want to come in, hopefully experience and be part of good worship and be taught from the word of God and I want to leave. But for my wife and myself, that wasn't the case. We had pretty much recovered from some of the shock of what had occurred at Willow. And we had visited a number of churches and we have never stuck anywhere. And one of the—there's a community in a church, there's strengths and weaknesses about community. The strength is, if you've got it, you love it! And you want to hold on to it. But the weakness is, how does a refugee break into that community? So, for the pastors to communicate to their body, who have community, we know you love each other and you have great small groups and all you want to be together and cannot wait to talk with your friends after church or before church. But there are refugees coming. And will you, you've got to go out of your comfort zone. Your comfort zone is to be with your friends. Out of your comfort zone is to be noticing, watching, who is new? And not to be like, “Hey, did you sign in yet?” Not to be over bearing. But to be caring, winsome, and to be sensitive. Are you hearing from someone who wants more or are you hearing from someone who wants their distance? So that is a value that I believe incoming churches need to have for refugees. JULIE ROYS: Absolutely. Carol, that question makes you furl your brow, just the idea of what do pastors need to hear from you? CAROL BEHRENDS: I don't need the pastors. JULIE ROYS: You've kind of had it. CAROL BEHRENDS: I'm really on my own. I have Christian fellowship without being in church. JULIE ROYS: It would take a miracle for you to go back to the church at this point. CAROL BEHRENDS: I don't trust myself to choose a church that in the end I will be able to trust. Because I was in a church for 38 years and didn't realize what the reality was.  JULIE ROYS: Boy that's hard. You know what? And I've heard people say that, like who have had multiple experiences even at bad churches and say, “What's wrong with me? Why didn't I do a better job picking a church?” It's certainly not your fault, Carol.   CAROL BEHRENDS: I pride myself on my intuition and this time it didn't work. JULIE ROYS: That's tough. Terry? TERRI STREICH: Yah, after many, many years of making relationships and but seeing the hypocrisy that was going on in the church, very painful. You can't equate it to anything. They're starting to write about these things now. It is such a grief and a disappointment to come from the Christian community from Holy Spirit led supposedly people. The paranoia that was going on, on the staff at the end, was difficult. And so when I quit, we invited the pastor over, never contacted. There was no love, no outreach. People are left all by themselves, you feel naked. And it is very, very painful. Many tears, you question your own discernment, even. “Why didn't I see that?” Dave and I, we had our meetings. We had a million meetings. And believing the best and nothing. Most things didn't change. JULIE: Yet you ended up at Joe's church. TERRI STREICH: Yes. JULIE ROYS: I don't think I introduced you at the beginning of the segment, Terry Streich you were at Harvest Bible Chapel and Carol was at Willow Creek Community church.  Joe Thorn one of the area pastors on this program also David Jones. You ended up at Joe's church. Did Joe do something right that made you say, “okay, I can trust this dude?” TERRI STREICH: Well this is what happens. ‘Cause a lot of people were calling us and asking. Dave and I had to decide, “what are the main things that God will have us . . .?” It wasn't easy to go somewhere new. But, you can listen to sermons online now. You can kinda check out people's doctrine before you step in and invest yourself or get hurt again. We did our investigation as best we could, and we came. And our hearts, we really ached for the word of God to be preached with no apology. In regards to doctrine, the theology, we weren't distracted because our lens that we were looking through, its sermons before, we were so critical, all of that. And we just didn't want to be distracted. We wanted to hear God's word just wash over us. That's what we were so hungry for. JULIE ROYS: So you were drawn to the preaching, was there something else?  TERRI STREICH: Yes. Well Joe is very accessible. We met him at a Starbucks that week. Dave wrote him an email affirming his gift. And we asked a million questions. The people were lovely there. But our eyes always have to be set on the Lord and trust his leading and guiding. And ask for discernment as we read His word. That's really important. JULIE ROYS: And you said earlier before we were on air, I'm never going to a megachurch again.  TERRI STREICH: No, we won't. JULIE ROYS: That's interesting. Dave, you don't have a megachurch, but it's, you know what would you say, about 600, 650? How do you respond to you know what these women want from a church, what Rob's wanting from a church? What have you guys done? DAVID JONES: Yeah, so again, I think a big part of it for people is just hearing that they understand and know. And so just to let a visitor who's coming know, “I get what you're going through right now. Like I experienced it myself personally.” And I think that is disarming in and of itself. And it begins a process of building trust. I think another thing that's important for them to realize is that even that this is new to you, this is not new to the church. Jesus predicted that there would be ravenous wolves who would come in among the sheep not sparing the flock. He spent His last major discourse of teaching, according to Matthew's gospel warning people about false teachers. The book of Revelation details seven different churches. And some of them received no condemnation. Some received only condemnation. Some received mixed reviews. And, you know, we look at the problems with Corinth and otherwise. Like the early church was not a perfect place. They were real people who wrestled with real issues, and some of these issues were leadership issues. So I think for people who have come to that awareness of, “This has been going on since the beginning of church history. It's just happening to me now.” JULIE ROYS: Man, that is great. Joe I am going to let you land this plane. Although Dave, you just got us down the runway, Joe, speak to these people hurting right now. JOE THORN: Listen to what pastor Dave, said. JUILIE ROYS: You second that? JOE THORN: Yes, he's giving you the truth of God's word. My encouragement to people that are hurting that are coming out of spiritually abusive and toxic cultures, churches and situations is to give yourself time. But to draw near to God through the means of Grace meaning His word and meaning prayer. But the means of grace are really most vibrantly and intensely experienced in the Christian community of faith. And so, I want to say I understand, I am not mad at you that people are distancing themselves. I am angry at the wolves. But, I guess the challenge would be, I don't think that we can be the people that God calls us to be or I don't even think we can do all the things God called us do, outside of the local church. Now that's going to look different, different kind of churches, whether it's house churches, megachurches, big, regular, small churches were made for that kind of covenant Christian community. So, I think the people that I have talked to haven't completely said, “I'm never going back under any circumstances. They just understand, “I don't know when I'm going back.” So, I want to encourage them, “leave that door open. And surround yourself with good Christians who can speak into your life and perhaps you'll find your way back to church through them, eventually.”  But do not distance yourself from the means of grace, that is going to be critical for your spiritual health. JULIE ROYS: I know Dave you've actually done something intentional at your church about spiritual abuse, inviting people in to process these spiritual abusive situations they've been from. I think those are really important, and I so appreciate. Thank you so much Rob, Dave, Joe, Terri, Carol for being willing to come and be a part of this, I think it was really helpful. You know I resonate with what you guys just said and the scriptures that are coming to mind, Matthew 16:18, where Jesus says to Peter, “I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.”  So the church is God's church He won't give up on her and I truly believe that these horrible things, and abuses that have come to light, have come to light because God is purifying his church, he has brought these things out, I don't think it's  just man's work, it's God's work. Second scripture is Hebrews 10:25 where the apostle Paul urges us not to stop meeting together and I get it that for some, find fellowship where you can and come to the hospital for healing. We need each other, we desperately need each other. If you missed any of this program the entire podcast will be posted to my website JulieRoys.com. Thank you so much for joining me. Have a great weekend.  Read more

Message by Nancy Beach

Leadership, Teams, and Coaching Circles, oh my! Nancy Beach brings years of experience and invaluable wisdom through the tool of the Enneagram as a Leadership Coach, Pastor, Speaker and more.  Nancy has always been a passionate champion for artists and leaders in the local church. For over 20 years she served as the Programming Director for Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, building a community of artists who sought to create transformational moments in Sunday morning church services. Nancy also served as a Teaching Pastor, periodically bringing the weekend message. Currently, Nancy serves as a leadership coach with the SlingShot Group, helping church leaders and teams to flourish in life and ministry. Nancy also uses her teaching gifts to cast vision at conferences and workshops, for both artists and women in leadership. In her book, An Hour on Sunday, Nancy expresses the core vision and values which she believes are foundational to any effective arts ministry. Nancy's second book is titled: Gifted to Lead: The Art of Leading as a Woman in the Church. Nancy and her husband Warren live in the village of Barrington, Illinois with their dog, Beanie. They serve at Soul City Church in downtown Chicago where Nancy is on the Teaching Team. Their two daughters, Samantha and Johanna, are both theatrical artists. To connect with Nancy Beach, visit: www.nancylbeach.com or email Nancy at nancylbeach@gmail.com For more information on Nancy's Worship Arts Coaching Circle, that begins soon, click here! Submit a question for the Enneagram In Your REALIFE Podcast with the subject: “Question for the Podcast” to podcast@teresamccloy.com To discover your Enneagram type, here are a few tools: CLICK FOR THE FREE ENNEAGRAM IN YOUR REALIFE TYPING GUIDE Take an Enneagram in Your REALIFE Assessment–visit https://teresamccloy.com/work-with-me/  Connect with your host, Teresa McCloy on: Facebook- Teresa McCloy Coaching Instagram- teresa.mccloy LinkedIn- teresamccloycoach Work with the REALIFE Process®: Enneagram In Your REALIFE Assessment Package JOIN THE REALIFE PROCESS TRIBE About Teresa McCloy Teresa McCloy is the creator of the REALIFE Process®, a Business Coach, and an IEA Accredited Enneagram Professional who helps entrepreneurs, business owners, and leaders discover and live out their best REALIFE! She has worked with clients from all over the world to help them bring clarity to their REALIFE and joy to their REALWORK!

In this episode, Natasha speaks with Nancy Beach about mentoring and leadership. They discuss the #MeToo and #ChurchToo Movements, women in leadership, what pastors need to know, and their hope for the future. Nancy Beach is most known for her groundbreaking ministry to more fully unleash the arts in the local church, and for leading artists with grace, wisdom, and skill. For over 20 years she served as the Programming Director of Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, building a community of artists who sought to create transformational moments in weekend church services. Nancy also served as a Teaching Pastor, periodically bringing the weekend message. She invested five years as a leadership team member of the Willow Creek Association, an organization that exists to envision and inspire church leaders all over the world. In over 26 countries and on 6 continents, Nancy has shared her passion, teaching at conferences and workshops. Show notes are available at A Sista's Journey blog. Show notes are available at A Sista's Journey blog. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Such an honor to welcome Nancy Beach to the podcast. Nancy was the Programming Director at Willow Creek for over 20 years, one of the main teaching pastors, and one of the founders of the church. She is a world class coach and an amazing leader. Nancy and I both do work with an incredible […]

EPISODE 9 (Nancy Beach)In this episode, we sat down with Nancy Beach. Nancy is the former programming genius behind Willow Creek Community Church gatherings. She was at Willow from the very beginning, and shares what inspired her to use her gifts and leadership skills to create God-honoring services and gatherings.VISIT THE FULL POST HERE: https://www.htdt.org/podcast/nancybeachWHAT’S IN THIS EPISODE?00:36 – Introduction of Nancy Beach00:55 – Youth Ministry Shout Out (Karl Romeus)1:29 – Nancy’s back-story3:58 – Passion for creative and production7:40 – How “the arts” can be utilized in student ministry10:07 – Creative process and team12:40 – Care for your team and honoring God in the process20:01 – Be careful of the “celebrity” mindset21:15 – Creative brainstorming and getting out of a rut28:30 – Worship gatherings 10+ years from now35:45 – Nancy’s thoughts on women in ministry42:40 – Podcast sponsors43:47 – Lighting Round (and Nancy’s Enneagram #)47:35 – Connecting with Nancy48:30 – Final thoughts from Nancy49:24 – Future episodes50:08 – HTDT Podcast sponsors50:18 - CreditsHOW TO CONTACT NANY BEACH:Webpage: www.nancylbeach.comTwitter: @nancylbeachFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/nancybeach1RESOURCES MENTIONED:Books: Gifted To Lead & An Hour On Sunday

Exciting news! We are interviewing the one and only Nancy Beach.  Come join Faye and Mary as they explore what makes Nancy so successful at helping her clients become their very best self. Nancy has been called a woman of many hats. Not only is this her fashion style, it has also been her lifestyle. Unafraid to do whatever needed to achieve the results desired, for both herself and those she has worked with.  With no traditional higher education, Nancy has learned and worked her way up as a life coach, spiritual adviser, business consultant, and alternative health guide.  Mary is a radio talk show host, author of the popular book “A Pocket Full of Prayers – A Heart Full of Hope” and a faith based intuitive.  For over 20 years, Mary has shared her intuitive, angelic guidance with clients from all over the world and from all walks of life.  www.globalhealing-soul-utions.com   Faye is an international speaker and educator, published author, tv personality, radio talk show host, transformational healer, spiritual minister, vibrational artist channel and a true scared listener. Faye founded her own company A Kneaded Escape to give her clients a well-balanced life of peace, joy, and contentment. http://akneadedescape.com/   VISIT OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AT: fb.me/whatifyoujustimagine 

Nish and Amy are back together again! This week we talk about the abrupt resignation/retirement of Willow Creek's founding pastor Bill Hybels after one of the women who have accused him of sexual misconduct and harassment wrote publicly about her story. When it comes to championing women in ministry, Hybels has been one of the good guys in evangelicalism. But good guys are not immune to abusing their power. We also take up an alarming BuzzFeed News analysis of Muslim-bashing by American politicians that documents instances in 49 states, primarily by GOP officeholders. And we ended by talking about Amy's recent piece in the New York Times about Trump and evangelicals, in which she argued that 80 percent of white evangelicals would vote against Jesus Christ himself if he ran as a Democrat. **_Please visit our [Patreon Page](https://www.patreon.com/impolitecompanypodcast) and consider becoming a monthly patron of the show, for as little as $1 per month. We're planning a Google Hangout with patrons in the month of April--there's still time to sign up as a patron and join us!_** Discussed This Week: [Why It's a Big Deal That Evangelical Pastor Bill Hybels Just Stepped Down Amid Sexual Misconduct Allegations](https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/04/why-its-a-big-deal-evangelical-pastor-bill-hybels-just-quit-amid-sexual-misconduct-allegations.html) (Ruth Graham, Slate) [Vonda Dyer's Statement Re: Chicago Tribune and Bill Hybels](https://vondadyer.weebly.com/blog) (VondaDyer.com) [Flawed Process, Wounded Women](https://www.nancylortberg.com/) (statement from former Willow Creek board member Nancy Ortberg) [Shining the Light on the Truth](https://veritasbetold.wixsite.com/website) (statement from former Willow Creek Elder Betty Schmidt) [Why We Can't Move On](http://www.nancylbeach.com/blog/2018/4/11/why-we-cant-move-on) (statement from former Willow Creek pastor Nancy Beach) [State and Local Republican Officials Have Been Bashing Muslims. We Counted.](https://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahallam/trump-republicans-bashing-muslims-without-repercussions?utm_term=.hvj0Nz8GXQ#.qiEN9kPR8E) (Hannah Allam and Talal Ansari, BuzzFeed News) [Trump's Christian Soldiers](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/31/opinion/sunday/trump-evangelicals-christians-easter.html) (Amy Sullivan, New York Times) [Depolarize](http://badchristianmedia.com/depolarize/) podcast (Dan Koch)

  On this episode, Nancy Beach and I talk about how to battle the voices in our head and the lies that keep us from reaching our full potential. We discuss how as women we are prone to compare ourselves to others and how to turn from competing against each other to becoming each other’s biggest fans. We talk about how to overcome our addiction to approval. We also touch on the reminder that there is only one of you in the whole universe and to lean in and be the be the best version of yourself. For over 20 years Nancy served as the Programming Director for Willow Creek Community Church in suburban Chicago, building a community of artists who sought to create transformational moments in Sunday morning church services. Nancy also served as a Teaching Pastor, periodically bringing the weekend message. Currently, Nancy serves as a leadership coach with the SlingShot Group, helping church leaders and teams to flourish in life and ministry. Nancy also uses her teaching gifts to cast vision at conferences and workshops, for both artists and women in leadership. Nancy is the author of two books. In her book, An Hour on Sunday, Nancy expresses the core vision and values which she believes are foundational to any effective arts ministry. Nancy’s second book is titled, Gifted to Lead: the Art of Leading as a Woman in the Church. She and her husband Warren live in the village of Barrington, Illinois with their dog, Beanie. They both serve at Soul City Church in downtown Chicago where Nancy is on the Teaching Team. Their daughters, Samantha and Johanna, are both theatrical artists.

Critically acclaimed speaker and coach Nancy Beach joins us for our 10am service with a message challenging us to be 'friends of sinners'.

Dog Training the American Male (relationship humor) with Steve Alten Meet Dr. Nancy Beach, a relationship counselor who hosts a local radio show called Love's a Beach. One problem: The relationship guru cant seem to make her own relationships work, sending her credibility and ratings into the toilet. Meet Jacob Cope, a walking thesaurus of phobias -- a Lehman Brothers casualty who's lost his job and swagger and now yearns to be a ventriloquist. When Nancy and Jacob are set up on a blind date and hit it off, their siblings, desperate to be rid of them, encourage the young couple to move in together. When the honeymoon stage abruptly ends, Jacob attempts to mend the fence by adopting a dog; a big dog and Nancy flips out. Steve Alten writes under his Pen name L.A.Knight for this series of books. He recently had his New York Times Best Selling book MEG picked up by Warner Brothers. Jason Statham from Fast and Furious plays the leading role, with Jon Turtletaub from National Treasury Movie being the director. While the blockbuster movie is being filmed, Steve decided to release Dog Training the American Male. The book is already being circled by producers. After he signed the Warner Brothers contract, he turned around and purchased the rights back to some of his select books, and started a traditional publishing company to help other authors. Steve also created a non-profit organiztion called Adopt An Author for the school systems to educate our youth. For more information visit: http://www.stevealten.com/ For information about the book visit: http://laknightentertainment.com/

Hey everybody! This week we are doing something we've never done on the podcast before. I'm going to interview the spouse of a previous guest. Usually when we have a husband and wife team, they are interviewed together. A few weeks back I interviewed Gary Dunahoo, who is a wonderful champion and supporter of his wife, Tammy Dunahoo. Today, I have the special privilege of interviewing her. Tammy is the General Supervisor of the US Foursquare Church and an outstanding leader. I think you'll enjoy this episode. Recommended Resources: Gifted To Lead by Nancy Beach  Investigating the Case For Women In Ministry Leadership by Jerry Dirmann Why Not Women : A Biblical Study of Women in Missions, Ministry, and Leadership by Loren Cunningham The Blue Parakeet: Rethinking How You Read the Bible by Scot McKnight If you're enjoying this podcast, spread the word by sharing it with your friends and leaving a review on iTunes. I encourage you to send me your feedback or suggestions for an interview. Help me help you. You can email me at jroper@foursquare.org, or direct message me on Facebook. You can also submit any feedback or questions here. Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast in iTunes or Stitcher so you don't miss an episode. As always, you can connect with me on Facebook or Twitter. It's your life, now go live it! I am among the more than two dozen missionaries supported by the Foursquare Missions International Global Missions Fund. To support our global missions efforts, visit The Global Missions Fund. Post may contain affiliate links. All proceeds are used to support the missions work. Thanks for listening!

Mothers Day 2014

Mothers Day 2014

Creative Arts pastor at Willow Creek, one of the worlds most influential churches.