Therapists Rising Podcast

In this episode, I'm talking about the invisible wall that stops most therapists from turning their brilliant program ideas into actual programs. You know the one - you've got this amazing concept that could genuinely help people, but every time you sit down to build it, you just... stare at the screen.Most therapists think this gap exists because they don't know enough or aren't qualified enough. The reality? You're stuck because your therapeutic training - the thing that makes you incredible in the therapy room - is actually working against you when it comes to program design. We're trained for responsive, individualised work, but programs need to be structured and predictable.I'm walking you through why this gap feels so insurmountable, what happens to most therapists who never cross it, and the simple framework that can help you bridge from "great idea" to "something people can actually follow." You'll understand why having expertise isn't enough and what you actually need to turn that knowledge into something sustainable.HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:The gap isn't about your qualifications – You're not stuck because you don't know enough. You're stuck because you're trying to turn expert knowledge into structured learning without a framework for how that translation actually works.Your therapeutic training creates the problem – We're conditioned to be responsive and comprehensive, accounting for every possible scenario. Programs need the opposite: clear, linear progression that works whether you're there or not.Most people either quit or overcompensate – Without a bridge across this gap, therapists either abandon their program dreams entirely or create something so complicated that no one completes it. Neither serves anyone.RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:That simple exercise I mentioned - writing down your program idea in one sentence, then asking "what's the ONE main transformation someone gets?" - that's actually just the first step in a bigger framework we dive deep into in the bootcamp.Join me for the From Couch to Course Bootcamp this September 23-26. For just $37, I'll walk you through exactly how to map, price, and structure your first ethical online program using frameworks designed specifically for how therapists think.In four focused days, you'll move from staring at that blank screen to having a clear roadmap for turning your expertise into something people can actually follow and complete.Secure your spot at therapistsrising.com/bootcampMORE FROM DR. HAYLEY KELLYThe Therapist Rising Incubator – For therapists ready to create their first sustainable online program with ongoing support: https://therapistsrising.com/incubatorFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykellySUBSCRIBE & REVIEWIf this episode helped you see that gap differently, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more therapists who have brilliant ideas but need help turning them into reality. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! See you next week!

In this episode, I'm dismantling the biggest myth therapists believe about creating online programs — that building one will just add more hustle and burnout to your already overwhelming life.We're no longer in the early days when therapists could assume that more hours worked equals more value delivered. Today's most successful therapist-entrepreneurs are rejecting hustle culture entirely and building programs that actually give them energy instead of draining it. What's winning? Programs designed around your natural strengths and energy patterns, not cookie-cutter templates.I'm breaking down why your therapy training is sabotaging your program design, the three biggest myths keeping you stuck in overwhelm, and how to build something sustainable that you'll actually enjoy running. You'll walk away with a completely new framework for thinking about programs — one that honours your need for flow, freedom, and sustainability.HERE ARE THE 3 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:Your therapy conditioning is working against you – We've been trained to equate exhaustion with worth, so we unconsciously design programs that recreate the same burnout patterns we're trying to escape from private practice.Smaller, focused programs create more impact – Your students don't need everything you know. They need the right transformation delivered in a way that's sustainable for both you and them to complete successfully.Tools and pre-recording aren't shortcuts — they're smart strategy – Using AI for content creation, automation for admin tasks, and pre-recorded lessons for consistency frees up your energy for the high-value connection work you actually love.RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:You don't need to figure out your online program alone while juggling a full caseload.Join me for the From Couch to Course Bootcamp this September 23-26. For just $37, I'll walk you through exactly how to map, price, and structure your first ethical online program using evidence-based frameworks your clinical training will actually recognise.In four focused days, you'll move from "someday I'll figure this out" to having a clear, compliant roadmap — or get enough clarity to know this isn't your next step. Either way, you'll stop wondering "what if."Secure your spot at therapistsrising.com/bootcampMORE FROM DR. HAYLEY KELLYThe Therapist Rising Incubator – For therapists ready to create their first sustainable, anti-hustle online program: https://therapistsrising.com/incubatorFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykellySUBSCRIBE & REVIEWIf you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more therapists who are ready to build programs without the burnout. Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! See you next week!

If you've been feeling burned out by back-to-back sessions, wondering if the only way to help people is to keep adding more clients to your calendar — you're not alone. This episode pulls back the curtain on what life can look like when you step beyond the traditional therapy chair.I'm sharing a real, unfiltered week in my life as a therapist-turned-entrepreneur — the fun, messy, everyday realities of running a thriving online business while still making a meaningful impact. You'll hear what it looks like to balance leadership, creativity, and connection, all while building a business that serves clients, students, and the broader community without burning out.Whether you're dreaming of more freedom in your calendar, curious about creating multiple income streams, or simply tired of the endless cycle of individual therapy sessions, this episode shows you what's possible — and why it's closer than you think.If you've ever wondered how to serve beyond 1:1 without losing the depth and meaning of your work — or how to design a business that actually supports your life rather than consumes it — this episode is for you.HERE ARE THE 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:Therapist life doesn't have to mean burnout — long days of notes and sessions aren't the only way to build a career.Leadership is part of the new therapist identity — stepping out of provider mode into visionary mode creates ripple effects across hundreds of lives.Creativity and teaching are just as impactful as 1:1 sessions — one program or training can support more people in months than years of private practice.Scaling doesn't mean losing intimacy — you can hold depth and connection through memberships, masterminds, and group experiences.Real life is still messy — pajama school runs, café brainstorms, and tech hiccups are part of the journey, but with breathing room, they don't derail you.MORE FROM DR. HAYLEY KELLYFuture-Ready Therapist Incubator – For therapists ready to create ethical, scalable online programs: https://therapistsrising.com/incubatorThe Collective Mastermind - For established therapist-entrepreneurs scaling their impact without sacrificing sustainability: https://therapistsrising.com/collectiveFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for daily insights on building a sustainable, impactful business.SUBSCRIBE & REVIEWIf this episode gave you a glimpse of what's possible for therapists beyond the chair, please subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts here — your support helps more therapists discover what's possible for their future.The mental health profession is changing. Therapists don't have to wait for permission to build freedom and impact — you can create a business that serves your life and your clients.Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising!

If you've been feeling incredibly skilled at individual therapy but somehow underprepared for what mental health delivery actually looks like in 2025 - you're not alone. This episode addresses the growing disconnect between traditional therapy training and the evolving mental health landscape worldwide.I'm breaking down why qualified therapists globally can't meet the exploding demand for mental health support, and how unqualified voices are filling the spaces qualified therapists should occupy. You'll discover the five core competencies that Future-Ready Therapists are developing to remain relevant and impactful in the Mental Health 3.0 era.Whether you're frustrated by long waitlists, concerned about your profession's declining influence, or ready to expand your therapeutic impact beyond individual sessions - this episode provides the professional development framework you need.If you've been torn between staying in your traditional therapy lane and exploring innovative delivery models, or you're ready to lead your profession's evolution rather than react to it - this episode is for you.HERE ARE THE 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:Traditional training isn't keeping pace with global demand - Mental health services worldwide face unprecedented demand, with waitlists stretching months and qualified therapists unable to serve everyone who needs support.Mental Health 3.0 requires new professional competencies - Future-Ready Therapists need digital fluency, innovation design thinking, ethical navigation skills, systems leadership abilities, and professional authority development to remain impactful.Evidence-based interventions can scale beyond individual sessions - CBT principles work for hundreds of university students, trauma-informed approaches can be embedded in workplace policies, and therapeutic expertise can guide community-level programs while maintaining clinical integrity.Professional development is shifting from modalities to delivery methods - The next decade of therapist education isn't just about learning new treatments, but developing capabilities to deliver existing interventions where people are, at the scale they need.Continuing education requirements will soon include these competencies - Future-Ready Therapists are developing these skills proactively before they become mandatory, understanding that professional evolution is happening with or without their participation.MORE FROM DR. HAYLEY KELLY Future-Ready Therapist Incubator - For therapists ready to develop Mental Health 3.0 competencies through innovative program creation: https://therapistsrising.com/incubatorFollow me on Instagram: @dr.hayleykelly for daily insights on Mental Health 3.0 professional developmentSUBSCRIBE & REVIEWIf this episode helped you understand the professional competencies needed for Mental Health 3.0 practice, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts here. Your support helps us reach more therapists ready to lead their profession's evolution.The mental health profession is evolving rapidly. Future-Ready Therapists aren't waiting for permission - they're leading the transformation while maintaining the highest clinical and ethical standards.Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! 

If you've been sitting on a program idea but paralyzed by the question "Am I allowed to do this?" - you're not alone. This episode tackles the fear that keeps brilliant therapists stuck on the sidelines of the online space.I'm breaking down the critical difference between scope-safe and sketchy program positioning, using real examples of ideas that started with good intentions but crossed dangerous lines. You'll discover why following generic business advice can land therapists in hot water, and more importantly, how to spot the red flags before you invest months developing something risky.Whether you're worried about board complaints, accidentally attracting people in crisis, or just want confidence that your program idea is ethically sound - this episode gives you the practical checklist you need.If you've been torn between wanting to scale your impact and staying safely within your scope of practice, or you're tired of second-guessing every program idea you have - this episode is for you.HERE ARE THE 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:Generic business advice is dangerous for therapists - "Teach what you're passionate about" sounds innocent, but when what you know is therapy, this advice can lead you straight into scope violations without realizing it.Language choices reveal everything - Words like "heal," "treat," "cure," "recovery," and "disorder" immediately signal clinical territory. If your marketing copy sounds therapeutic, you've probably crossed the line.Your audience type determines safety - Growth-seekers want optimization; help-seekers need intervention. Attracting people in crisis to educational programs creates ethical dilemmas and safety risks.Delivery method matters as much as content - Even scope-safe topics become problematic when delivered through inappropriate formats. Self-paced trauma content or group processing without therapeutic boundaries are recipe for disaster.Red flag spotting is reactive, not proactive - While identifying warning signs protects you from obvious mistakes, what therapists really need is a systematic way to evaluate ideas before developing them.RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Professional Registration Boards - Check your specific jurisdiction's guidelines for online program creationScope of Practice Guidelines - Review what constitutes educational vs. therapeutic delivery in your areaContinuing Education Requirements - Ensure any program delivery aligns with your professional development obligationsMORE FROM METhe Aligned Idea Accelerator - For therapists ready to find their scope-safe program concept: https://therapistsrising.com/ideaFollow me on Instagram: @dr.hayleykelly for daily insights on ethical program creationSUBSCRIBE & REVIEWIf this episode helped you feel more confident about evaluating your program ideas, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts here. Your support helps us reach more therapists who need practical guidance on creating impact while staying within professional boundaries.The online space doesn't have to be scary territory for therapists. With the right frameworks, you can create programs that transform lives while keeping your registration completely safe.Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! See you next week!

If you've been feeling like our profession is under siege, you're not imagining it. This episode dives deep into the systemic challenges facing Australian therapists and why staying silent is no longer an option.I'm sitting down with Sahra O'Doherty, President of the Australian Association of Psychologists (AAPI), for a conversation that will change how you think about your role as a therapist. Sahra reveals everything from the two-tier Medicare system to the Training Pathways Review that could completely overhaul psychology training in Australia.With 30-40% of Australians now seeking support from unregulated providers, we're at a crossroads. We can either evolve and innovate, or risk becoming obsolete.If you've felt torn between wanting to innovate and fearing professional backlash, or you're tired of feeling like our profession is being left behind - this episode is for you.HERE ARE THE 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:The profession is self-policing to a fault - Most AHPRA complaints come from other psychologists without collegial conversation first. This lateral violence keeps us small and scared.Innovation is now mandated, not optional - New core competencies coming December 2025 explicitly require psychologists to advocate for clients and health equity. Your comfort zone is no longer compliant practice.The substantial equivalence pathway is changing everything - Hundreds of psychologists are gaining endorsements in different areas, proving the arbitrary nature of the two-tier system.Training reform is coming - Complete overhaul of psychology training pathways in the next 3-5 years, focusing on job-readiness rather than academic research.Fear is keeping us irrelevant - While we stay paralyzed by compliance anxiety, other professions step into mental health spaces and government pushes psychology assistants as first-line interventions.RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Australian Association of Psychologists (AAPI) - Learn more about membership and advocacy effortsAHPRA Core Competencies - New standards coming into effect December 2025Training Pathways Review - Government consultation on psychology education reformMORE FROM SAHRA O'DOHERTYMindscape Psychology: Sarah's private practice in Sydney's inner westMORE FROM METhe Incubator: For therapists ready to create scalable digital offeringsFollow me on Instagram: @dr.hayleykellySUBSCRIBE & REVIEWIf this episode opened your eyes to what's really happening in our profession, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts here. Your support helps us reach more therapists who need to hear these crucial conversations.The psychology profession is at a turning point. The question isn't whether change is coming - it's whether we'll lead it or be left behind.Thanks for tuning in to Therapists Rising! See you next week!

If you have 17 half-baked course ideas sitting in a Google doc but can't choose which one to build, you're not just procrastinating—you're missing out on income and impact while your expertise sits unused.You've got brilliant insights and could help so many people. But when you can't decide between stress management for healthcare workers, communication skills for couples, or that trauma-informed approach you've been mulling over for months, analysis paralysis keeps you stuck on the sidelines. Meanwhile, those potential clients? They're buying programs from therapists who made a decision and took action.In this game-changing episode, you'll discover:The Scope & Sanity Filter: Four critical tests every therapist program idea must passWhy the Flourishing Test protects your registration while ensuring program successThe Energy Test: How to avoid building a program that drains you completelyWhy people already coming to you for help is your credibility goldmineThe Market Demand reality check that prevents beautiful programs nobody buysReal client example: How one therapist chose between 8 ideas and built her signature offerThe costly mistakes therapists make when they choose wrong (therapy-in-disguise alert!)Why having "good ideas" isn't enough—you need a validation systemThe three positioning frameworks that keep you scope-safe and profitableKey Mindset Shifts:✓ Too many ideas without a filter equals zero programs ✓ The problem isn't lack of expertise—it's lack of decision-making structure ✓ Your program should energize you, not become another source of burnout ✓ Market demand isn't about passion—it's about people willing to pay for solutions ✓ Professional safety and business viability can (and must) coexistTake Action This Week:List all your program ideas (yes, even the half-baked ones)Run ONE idea through the four-test Scope & Sanity FilterAsk yourself: Does this help stable people thrive or struggling people heal?Rate your energy level (1-10) when you imagine teaching this topicShare your biggest "aha" moment from this episode on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly

The hard truth: If you're trying to help everyone with your online program, you're actually helping no one—and it's killing your business before it even starts.You've got years of training and could help SO many people. But when you try to market to "everyone," your message becomes so vanilla that nobody feels seen. Those perfect clients? They're hiring someone who spoke directly to their specific pain.In this game-changing episode, you'll discover:Why "I help people with anxiety" guarantees invisibility (with cringe-worthy examples)The Identity Trap: Why "moms" isn't a niche and demographics don't buy programsThe math proving specificity INCREASES income (one student went from $97 to $5K programs)My 3-Question Clarity Check to know if your niche is specific enoughThe Step-Down Method: How to narrow focus without panicWhy trying to serve everyone is actually UNETHICALReal before-and-after examples showing the difference between noise and clarityKey Mindset Shifts:✓ Specificity is service, not selfishness ✓ You're not abandoning people—you're becoming excellent for the RIGHT people ✓ The market rewards clarity, not capability ✓ The narrower you go, the bigger you grow

The online space keeps changing the rules the second you've figured them out. New algorithms, platform updates, economic uncertainty, and the constant pressure to keep up while holding space for clients—it's overwhelming, and it's real.But what if I told you that feeling like "everything is too much" isn't a sign you're failing? What if it's actually your business giving you crucial information about where you're at, what matters most, and where you're ready to grow?As therapists building businesses, we face a unique challenge: we're trained to create stability and hold space for others, but we're operating in a world of constant change and uncertainty. The skills that make us excellent clinicians can sometimes work against us when we need to navigate business pivots, market shifts, and the messy reality of entrepreneurship.The uncomfortable truth: Waiting for "normal" to return isn't a strategy—it's avoidance. While you're hiding in research mode or postponing decisions until things "settle down," the world keeps moving, and your people keep needing what you offer.In this essential episode, I break down:Why therapists get stuck in "caretaker mode" with their businesses (and how it's sabotaging growth)The irony of helping clients navigate uncertainty while panicking about our own business changesWhy your overwhelm is actually proof you've built something worth protectingThe fork in the road every therapist faces: hide until things stabilize, or learn to dance with uncertaintyMy three anchors for staying grounded when fear wants to take controlMicro-momentum: the power of smallest-possible-action thinking for overwhelmed entrepreneursInformation hygiene: how to stay educated without staying panickedScenario safety nets: simple "if/then" planning that calms your nervous systemWhy "action creates clarity" applies to business decisions, not just clinical workThe game-changer: You already have the skills to navigate uncertainty—you use them every day with clients. The challenge is applying that same wisdom to your own business growth instead of reverting to freeze, flight, or research-paralysis mode.Bottom Line: Your business isn't broken if it feels overwhelming right now. The world is shifting, industries are evolving, and building something meaningful has always required tolerance for the unknown. Your job isn't to figure it all out before you move—it's to take the next small, true step and trust your capacity to handle whatever comes next.

The marketing world feels gross because most of it IS gross. But what if I told you that ethical marketing isn't just possible—it's actually your secret weapon as a therapist?While other industries scramble to add "authenticity" to their marketing playbook, you've been practicing it your entire career. You already know how to influence ethically, build trust without manipulation, and create genuine transformation. You just didn't know it was marketing.The uncomfortable truth: Your humility might be beautiful, but if people can't find you, it becomes a barrier to your service. In a world where louder, less-trained voices are filling the vacuum, ethical visibility isn't just smart business—it's a public health necessity.In this essential episode, I break down:Why that "icky" feeling about marketing is actually a sign of your professional integrityThe clinical parallels you've been missing: ACT's creative hopelessness IS ethical marketingHow motivational interviewing techniques translate directly to sales conversationsThe 4 Pillars of Ethical Marketing framework (transparency, genuine value, evidence, autonomy respect)Real vs. manufactured pain points—and why neuroscience backs addressing authentic strugglesRobert Cialdini's influence principles: when they're ethical vs. manipulativeConcrete examples of what NOT to do (fake scarcity, hidden pricing, manufactured urgency)What ethical marketing actually sounds like in practiceWhy "marketing as service" changes everythingThe game-changer: You're not learning to market—you're learning to apply your existing clinical skills at scale. Your therapy training already taught you ethical influence, boundary management, and how to create safety and trust. Now it's time to use those superpowers to reach the people who need your help.Bottom Line: Ethical marketing isn't about becoming someone else—it's about becoming more you, just in public. Your clinical advantage gives you everything you need to market with integrity while others manipulate their way to sales.

You launched your program. Finally getting visible. Then it happens—colleagues start questioning your marketing, your methods, your motives.That knot in your stomach when you see posts criticising "aggressive marketing tactics" in professional groups? Wondering if they're talking about YOU?Here's what nobody tells you: when you do things differently, people don't react well. Not internet trolls—your peers, colleagues, even mentors.Colleague criticism isn't a sign you're doing something wrong—it's proof you're doing something RIGHT.This week, a Facebook post triggered hundreds of therapists by criticising marketing in our field. The irony? It used the exact tactics it condemned—creating urgency, amplifying problems, positioning the author as having the solution.What really happened: textbook human psychology. Your innovation forces others to question their choices, making your success feel like implicit criticism of their status quo.In this eye-opening episode, I break down:Why resistance to change is hardwired into helping professionsThe double standard: therapeutic vs. marketing techniquesHow ACT uses "problem amplification" as core intervention—but marketing can't?Real psychology behind colleague criticism when you innovateHow to fact-check your ethics without getting derailed by projectionsWhy stepping back to avoid criticism hurts people who need your helpDifference between acknowledging real problems vs. creating fake onesHow burnout rates and access barriers are documented realities—not marketing fabricationsWhy your courage gives other ethical innovators permission to continueStrategic frameworks for handling criticism without losing missionHow to pick battles and protect energy for what mattersThe uncomfortable truth: Mental health field desperately needs ethical innovators willing to face criticism. Your colleagues questioning your visibility aren't your ideal clients—they're not searching at 2 AM wondering if anyone understands their struggle.Bottom Line: If you're building something meaningful and facing criticism, take it as validation you're onto something important. The people who need your innovation aren't the ones criticising it—they're desperately hoping someone brave will step up.

The digital course world just got turned upside down. While course creators panic about AI making their businesses obsolete, therapists have a massive opportunity—if they act fast.The AI education market is exploding from $5.88 billion to $32 billion by 2030. Course creation now takes hours instead of months. Your future students already expect AI-powered, personalized learning experiences.What if I told you that while everyone else scrambles to compete with AI, you already have the one thing machines can't replicate—the ability to facilitate real transformation?While course creators are discovering that information doesn't create change, you've known this your entire career. You've always been a transformation guide, not an information provider. The market is finally catching up to what you've always understood.In this game-changing episode, I reveal:Why the $32 billion AI education explosion is actually GOOD news for therapistsHow CourseAI creates courses in 2 minutes—and why this helps, not hurts youThe "perfect storm" about to flood the market with generic AI contentWhy 67% of Gen Z students already expect AI-powered learning experiencesThe Pat Flynn revelation: "Information used to be valuable because it wasn't there before"How customer journeys shifted from $997 course sales to community-first modelsWhy AI can provide 24/7 support without burning you outSpecific tools transforming course creation: ChatGPT, Synthesia, Heights PlatformHow we're using AI in our Incubator to help students build programs fasterThe "hallucination" problem that could destroy your professional reputationWhy transparency about AI use is non-negotiable for mental health professionalsThe 12-18 month window to get ahead of this curveHow to compete on clinical wisdom instead of informationTwo strategic paths: premium human-centric vs. AI-enhanced scalabilityThe uncomfortable truth: Course creators built businesses on information delivery—and AI just made that obsolete. But therapists? You've always known real change happens through relationship and human connection. You're not behind—you're perfectly positioned to lead.Bottom Line: Therapists who use AI for efficiency while doubling down on human connection will lead their niches within 18 months. Those who ignore this transformation will compete against AI-generated content with outdated models.

You've built your dream practice. You're booked solid. People are telling you "You've made it!" because you have 52 people on your waitlist.But instead of feeling successful, you're drowning. You wake up at 3am thinking about all the people you can't help. You feel guilty every time you take a day off. You're starting to realize that your "success" feels suspiciously like moral injury.Maybe you think a full practice means you're doing everything right. Maybe you've been told that waitlists are proof of your value and expertise. Maybe you're starting to suspect that trying to save everyone individually is slowly killing you—and leaving the people who need help most behind.What if I told you that your waitlist isn't proof you've succeeded—it's proof the system is fundamentally broken?While we're celebrating individual capacity metrics, we're missing a profound truth: the healing model we inherited was never designed to work. We're trying to empty the ocean with a teaspoon, and then wondering why we're exhausted and people are still drowning.In this raw, unfiltered conversation, I share a call that changed everything:Why your waitlist is actually a wound in a broken system—not a badge of honourThe uncomfortable truth about who actually makes it off waitlists (and who gets left behind)How we've been conditioned to believe healing only happens in isolation—and why that's destroying usThe difference between being the healer and creating conditions for healingWhy the math of one-person-one-hour-one-room will never add up to liberationHow traditional therapy recreates the same systems we're trying to heal people fromThe moment my colleague realized she was complicit in leaving people behindWhy "I built my dream practice and now it feels like a nightmare" is the most honest thing anyone has said about modern therapyHow to shift from scarcity-based individual healing to abundance-based community transformationThe revolutionary idea that your value isn't in how many people you personally saveWhy moral injury disguised as success is keeping therapists trapped and clients waitingThe vision of what becomes possible when we stop trying to be the sole source of healingBottom Line: The system that creates waitlists—that makes healing scarce, keeps people isolated, and exhausts therapists—is counting on us being too tired to imagine anything different. But your waitlist isn't your fault. Staying stuck in a system that creates it when you know there's another way? That's a choice.Your colleague with 52 people waiting isn't failing. The system is. And maybe it's time we all chose differently.

You've built the business. Maybe you've launched your first program. People are buying. Results are happening.But instead of feeling liberated, you're staring at your toddler's naptime thinking: "I have exactly 90 minutes to move the needle on my empire... no pressure."Maybe you think successful entrepreneurship means choosing between being a present mom or a powerful business owner.Maybe you've tried the "hustle harder" approach, felt like you were failing at everything, and wondered if ambitious dreams are just incompatible with goldfish crackers and bedtime routines.What if I told you that motherhood doesn't shrink your ambition—it expands it?While we're beating ourselves up for not having the capacity we used to have, we're missing the profound transformation that's actually happening: we're learning to build sustainably, lead authentically, and create with deeper purpose than ever before.In this episode, neurologic physical therapist and "neuropreneur" Lily Jimenez reveals:Why the "terrific twos" of business mirror the terrific twos of motherhood—and how to embrace both transformationsThe game-changing mindset shift from "balancing" to "growing alongside" your dreamsHer boundary system that protects presence: why she literally hides in the bathroom to check her phoneHow to find "pocket time" that actually moves the needle (hint: it's not about finding more hours)The art of letting creativity flow instead of forcing productivity on mom scheduleWhy "doing nothing" is actually doing something for your business—and your nervous systemHow to redefine success when your season is "mostly goldfish crackers and cuddles"The power of making your children your "why" without making them your pressurePractical batching strategies that honor your capacity as a licensed professional and a momWhy comparing your chapter 1 to someone else's chapter 20 is stealing your joy (and momentum)Bottom Line: The difference between mom entrepreneurs who thrive and those who burn out isn't about having more time or energy—it's about honoring the season you're in while still moving toward the vision that lights you up.You don't have to earn your dreams by doing it all at once. You're allowed to grow small and slow. Your calling is still valid, even when your pace looks different than it used to.

You've created your goals for the year, you have everything planned out. You know when all of your items need to be completed. But you don't seem to be making any progress. You cannot reach these goals. Life throws up unexpected items to derail your plan.What if you were given permission to adapt, to adjust your plan? This afternoon, our well‑crafted episode plan took a rain check—because life and capacity have their own ideas sometimes. Today, I (Rob Kelly) am stepping in behind the mic, not as backup, but as a real‑time model of adaptability in action. No fluff. No script. Just transparency about when the plan meets reality. In this episode, I cover:Capacity breakdown: how breaking goals into tasks, estimating time, and weekly blocking reveals where we've overscheduled ourselves.The pivot moment: despite a capacity-matched plan, today we needed an adjustment—and that became a strategic move.Strategy vs. rigidity: why adaptability matters more than blindly sticking to a plan.Frozen 2 moment: “the next right thing” is more than a quote—it's a survival (and success) tool.Invitation to listeners: permission to pause, pivot, and make the next right move.Tune in to Learn what happens when vision collides with weekly reality.Your Homework:Read the Signals: Notice if tasks consistently don't get completed due to a lack of time - this is an intentional checkpoint, not a sign you're behind.Give Yourself Permission: Even capacity-aligned plans can shift—and that's strategic, not shameful.Choose the Next Right Step: When overwhelmed, clarity trumps chaos. One step is all you need to move forward.

You've been avoiding it, haven't you? That little blue LinkedIn notification sitting in your email inbox, taunting you with connection requests you never respond to.Maybe you think LinkedIn is just for corporate salespeople in suits, not compassionate healers like you.Maybe you've tried posting once or twice, felt like a fraud trying to "market yourself," and promptly retreated back to the safety of your private practice bubble.What if I told you that avoiding LinkedIn isn't protecting your authenticity—it's limiting your impact?While we stay invisible on the one platform where our ideal referral partners are actively looking for us, we're missing conversations and opportunities that could transform our practices.In this episode, LinkedIn expert Brenda Meller reveals:Why LinkedIn is actually the PERFECT platform for therapists (professional relationships, not personal oversharing)The "Social Media Pie" philosophy that reframes networking from taking to givingHer game-changing 15-minute daily strategy that even the busiest therapists can maintainThe 80/20 rule for posting that eliminates the "salesy" feeling entirelyHow to optimize your profile to attract referral partners (not just clients)Why "netgiving" beats networking every time—and how to do it authenticallyThe algorithm secrets that make your content actually get seen by the right peopleSpecific engagement techniques that build social media karma and reciprocityBottom Line: The difference between therapists who have thriving referral networks and those who struggle in isolation isn't clinical skills—it's the willingness to show up professionally and build authentic relationships.

You've felt it, haven't you? That creeping realization that the therapy world you trained for is disappearing faster than you can adapt.Maybe you've watched TikTok "healers" with zero qualifications book out $2000 programs while you're drowning in twelve-month waitlists and Medicare paperwork.Maybe you've seen colleagues burn out, leave the profession, or settle for jobs that barely pay the bills—despite having skills that could transform lives at scale.What if I told you that staying in your lane isn't protecting your career—it's limiting it?While we follow every rule and stay perfectly compliant, the world around us is shifting at lightning speed. But here's what I know: you don't have to watch from the sidelines while everything changes around you.In this episode, I reveal:Why your clinical training is actually your innovation advantage (not a business liability)The identity shift from "just a therapist" to therapeutic innovator that unlocks new possibilitiesHow one OT went from maternity leave panic to earning more than her clinic job in 6 monthsThe 20% rule that creates revenue resilience without abandoning your clinical workReal math: how a simple 4-week group program can generate $8K annually in additional incomeThe ethical visibility framework that gets you found without getting you in trouble with registration boardsThe three-sentence future bio exercise that clarifies your next-level positioningMicro-actions you can implement this week (not someday when you have more time)Bottom Line: The difference between therapists who thrive in the next decade and those who get left behind isn't clinical skills—we've all got those. It's the willingness to evolve your identity, diversify your revenue, and show up visibly in service of the people who need your help.

You've been feeling it too, haven't you? That sense that something is deeply wrong with our mental health system.Maybe you've drafted posts about impossible caseloads or regulations that harm more than they help.But every time you go to hit publish, you stop. What if this gets back to my employer? What if speaking up puts everything at risk?Two weeks ago, I stopped asking "what if" and found out exactly what happens when a therapist refuses to stay quiet. I got banned from LinkedIn. Twice. Not for being unprofessional—but for telling the truth about a system that's failing us.This episode isn't about my LinkedIn drama. It's about the choice every therapist faces: stay safe and silent, or speak up and face the consequences.In this episode, I share:The exact post that got me banned (and why 200,000 people resonated with it)What happened when I tried to appeal—and why creating a new account got me banned again within hoursThe real reason this isn't about platform policies or community guidelinesHow David Dinca's NDIS post made national news and what it reveals about systematic silencingDr. Nat Green's courageous stand on medical gaslighting and complaint systems that retraumatizeWhy my neurodivergent brain responded to being told "you can't" by getting louder, not quieterThe 45 minutes I considered making myself smaller—and what pulled me backWhat resistance with integrity looks like when the system punishes reformWhy this moment clarified rather than crushed my missionBottom Line: The mental health system will not reform itself. Permission to speak up isn't coming. The cost of waiting for someone else to fix what's broken is too high—for us and for those who need our help.

You've created an incredible program. You have valuable insights to share. You know your work could help so many people.But every time you go to hit 'publish' on that post about your offer, you freeze.What if someone reports me? What if I say the wrong thing? What if this puts my registration at risk?If this sounds familiar, you're not alone. Almost every therapist I work with struggles with visibility fear — especially when they're moving beyond traditional therapy into coaching, online programs, or digital offerings.Today, I'm sharing the exact 3-step framework I use with therapists to help them stay visible online without compromising their safety, values, or professional registration.This isn't about throwing caution to the wind. It's about building clarity and courage so you can show up authentically while staying compliant and confident.In this episode, I share:Why visibility fear is actually your nervous system trying to protect you (and why hiding doesn't serve anyone)The Visibility Safety Ladder Framework: 3 simple steps to post with confidenceHow to ground your intention before writing any contentThe hierarchy of safety in content types (stories vs. advice, experience vs. instruction)Visibility anchors: how to help your audience know which professional hat you're wearingReal examples of safe vs. risky language when promoting your work onlineWhy ambiguity breeds anxiety (for you and your readers)One simple action step to practice safer visibility this weekBottom Line: Your voice matters, your work matters, and there are people who need to hear exactly what you have to say. Don't let fear keep them from finding you.

A 19-year-old client sits on his couch staring at a wall for 8 hours a day. He's been in therapy for two years. He's planned his suicide for his 20th birthday. Traditional therapy isn't working.Three ketamine sessions later, he's dating someone, has a job, and is learning to snowboard.This isn't a miracle story. It's Tuesday for Dori Lewis.In this eye-opening conversation, I sit down with Dori Lewis — licensed professional counselor, clinical supervisor, and co-founder of Elemental Psychedelics, one of Colorado's first DORA-approved psychedelic training programs.Dori's journey began with her own psychedelic trauma — being given DMT without consent, then spending four months in Asia integrating the experience. That traumatic weekend forged her into one of the most ethically-grounded voices in psychedelic medicine.From facilitating nearly 100 ketamine sessions to training psilocybin facilitators, Dori lives at the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern therapy. She's not here to sell you on psychedelics — she's here to give you the unfiltered truth about what this work really entails.In this episode, we discuss:The client case that changed everything: 2 years of stalled therapy to breakthrough in 3 ketamine sessionsDori's trauma story: DMT without consent and the Asia integration journey that birthed her practiceWhat happens in an 8-hour psilocybin session (the real, unfiltered process)Why mushrooms "amplify everything in the unseen realm" and what that means for trainingCultural appropriation: how to honor spirituality without crossing ethical linesAustralia vs. America: $25,000 psychiatrist-only model vs. Colorado's $800-2000 sliding scaleScreening criteria: who should (and shouldn't) do psychedelic therapyThe dark side: narcissism amplification and harm from unskilled facilitatorsColorado's personal use model: grow, gift, and consume mushrooms legallyBottom Line: Psychedelic therapy isn't replacing traditional therapy — it's amplifying it. But only with proper training, ethical foundations, and deep respect for holding altered states.

You've launched your signature program. You know it works. But there's a massive gap between people saying "I'm interested" and actually pulling out their credit card for $2,000.What if there's a way to bridge that gap—not by discounting your course—but by creating "quick win offers" that actually make people MORE likely to buy your signature program?Welcome back to Tuesday Tiny Wins—where we get straight to the point with one tool you can implement TODAY.In this episode, we discuss:The trust recession: Why people need proof before investing $2,000What quick win offers actually are (and what they're NOT)The gateway strategy: Why solving their biggest problem is wrongThe 4-step sequence that turns $27 customers into $2,000 clientsReal examples showing exactly how this worksStep-by-step plan to create your offer this weekTherapist considerations: scope of practice, pricing, ethicsThe Gateway Strategy That Changes Everything:Wrong: Try to solve their biggest problem in a mini offer Right: Solve a gateway problem that reveals how much bigger their issue isThe 4-Step Sequence:Buy quick win offer (solve immediate problem)Use technique—it works (build trust)Realize: "This problem is bigger than I thought"Your signature program becomes exactly what they needYour Action Plan:Step 1: Identify Gateway Problem (20 minutes)What transformation does your big program create?What smaller problem do they need to solve FIRST?What gives them a quick win AND shows the bigger pattern?Step 2: Create Your Title (30 minutes)Formula: The [time] [method] that [solves problem] in [situation]Step 3: Outline Content (2-3 hours)Lesson 1: Why this problem happensLesson 2: Exact technique to solve itLesson 3: When to use it + bigger pictureTherapist Considerations:Scope: Keep it psychoeducational—teaching skills, not therapy Pricing: $17-$47 for first quick win offer Ethics: Clear disclaimers about educational contentYour Homework:Today: Identify your gateway problemDM me on Instagram with your gateway problem—commitment makes it real

The system you dedicated your career to was designed wrong from the beginning. Not broken — designed wrong.970 million people globally need mental health support. We have approximately 1 million mental health professionals. The math isn't just broken — it reveals a system that was never built to serve the people who need it most.In this paradigm-shifting episode, I expose the uncomfortable truth: Mental Health 1.0 was designed for social control. Mental Health 2.0 was designed for good intentions. But Mental Health 3.0 — what I'm describing today — is the first paradigm being designed for actual results.While mental health professionals burn out trying to fix unfixable systems, tech companies are building Mental Health 3.0 solutions without us. The question isn't whether this transformation will happen. It's whether you'll help build it... or watch someone else do it.In this episode, we unpack:The Design Flaw Revelation — Why Mental Health 1.0 (asylums) and 2.0 (community care) created invisible problems while solving visible onesThe Current Collapse — Real data on 100+ day wait times, provider exodus, and technology filling gaps while professionals burn outMental Health 3.0 Framework — The educational revolution training therapeutic innovators who design community solutions, not just individual therapyThe Training Gap Crisis — Why medical schools teach healthcare entrepreneurship while psychology programs still train for Mental Health 2.0The Narrow Window — Why early movers will have massive advantages in the coming transformationThe Five Mental Health 3.0 Principles:Proactive, not reactive — Identify community needs before crises emergePopulation-scale, not individual-focused — Design interventions reaching thousands simultaneouslyTechnology-enabled, not technology-resistant — Use digital tools to amplify human expertisePrevention-based, not crisis-driven — Invest in keeping people wellEconomically sustainable — Create models that scale efficientlyBottom Line: Early movers will have massive advantages. Late adopters will be following someone else's vision of the future you could have helped create.

You were trained to stay quiet. To follow rules written for a world that no longer exists. To accept that your expertise should be sanitized into beige compliance.But what if everything you've been told about "staying safe" is actually keeping you small?In this raw, unfiltered episode, I pull back the curtain on what happened after my viral LinkedIn post broke the internet — and more importantly, what it revealed about the quiet revolution already happening in mental health.When therapists get investigated for posting anxiety tips while unqualified influencers sell $2,000 "trauma healing" courses, something is deeply broken. But buried in the 1,000+ shares and hundreds of comments was proof that change isn't coming, it's already here.If you've ever felt like the system is working against you instead of for you, this episode will show you exactly how to be part of the solution.In this episode, we discuss:The 3am truth that sparked a viral movement (and what 1,000 shares really revealed)Why therapists are uniquely positioned to lead the mental health revolutionThe three types of quiet revolutionaries already changing the system from withinPattern #1: The Permission-Takers — how to stop asking "am I allowed?" and start asking "how do I do this safely?"Pattern #2: The System Hackers — reframing your expertise to work within (and around) outdated regulationsPattern #3: The Bridge-Builders — creating solutions for communities the system has forgottenThree small actions you can take TODAY to join the revolution (no committee approval required)The Three Revolutionary Actions:Ask Better Supervision Questions — Transform compliance theater into collaborative courage labsRewrite One Tiny Policy — Reclaim your authority to create policies that actually serve humansBreak the Silence — Name system failures when they harm your clients (it's not unprofessional, it's honest)Bottom Line: The revolution isn't happening in boardrooms or policy committees. It's happening with practitioners who care more about impact than approval. Who choose to be first, not perfect.

You were trained to think psychology equals therapy chair. To believe "business skills" are something other people have. To accept that your expertise stops at the consulting room door.But what if everything you've been told about your limitations is wrong?In this game-changing conversation, I sit down with Carly Fisher — registered psychologist, government executive, board director, and living proof that therapists possess the exact skills businesses pay consultants millions for.Carly went from a 190-person therapy waitlist in rural Australia to making strategic decisions for million-dollar organisations. She didn't get an MBA to "fix" her psychology background — she got it to amplify the superpowers she already had.If you've ever thought "I'm just a therapist — I don't have business skills" — this conversation will shatter every limiting belief you've been carrying.In this episode, we discuss:Why a 190-person waitlist became a strategic career pivot instead of overwhelming pressureThe MBA decision: building credibility to sit at tables where million-dollar decisions get madeThe 4 superpowers every therapist has that businesses desperately need (but don't know how to ask for)Why case formulation is strategic planning in disguiseThe ethical line between therapy and executive coachingStep-by-step pathway from therapy practice to organisational consultingThe biggest mistakes therapists make when transitioning to business workThe Four Therapist Superpowers:Analytical skills and objectivity — evidence-based decisions under pressureAdapting to change — constant pivoting and resilienceInfluencing and persuading — reading humans and adjusting in real-timeRisk assessment and control — identifying problems before they explodeBottom Line: You don't need to learn new skills. You need to learn how to translate the ones you already have.

You were trained to be ethical. To follow the rules. To keep yourself out of the spotlight and let the system guide the way.But what happens when the system itself is no longer fit for purpose?In this milestone episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on a truth I've been sitting with for a long time — and the reckoning that finally made me say, “I can't keep pretending this is working.” This isn't a celebration. It's a confession. A call to those of us who've felt the discomfort of playing small while the field we love becomes harder to recognize.You'll hear the story behind my 2016 keynote that went silent, the inner war between staying beloved and speaking what's true, and the unignorable patterns I've witnessed after mentoring hundreds of therapists trying to do business ethically — but innovatively — in a profession that resists both.If you've ever wondered:Is it just me, or is the system actually broken?Why does it feel like there's no room for nuance or newness anymore?Can I still be a therapist if I want to burn the rulebook?…this one's for you.In this episode, I discuss:The therapist identity crisis: why staying safe often means staying silentHow outdated ethical codes are strangling innovation and visibilityThe story of a therapist being investigated for a Mental Health Week post — and why it's not an outlierWhat happened after my 2016 keynote — and why I buried the leadership part of me for yearsThe psychic split between scaling a beloved brand and stepping into disruptive truthWhy the future of mental health is being built outside our profession — and why that terrifies meThe real patterns I can't unsee anymore: watered-down offers, clinician burnout, unethical wellness gurus going uncheckedA soft reveal of the Mental Health 3.0 Compass — not a product, but a new lens to see what's nextA call to those who feel “too much to be seen, but too big to stay small”If you've ever felt like you're breaking some invisible contract just by wanting more — more impact, more honesty, more space to grow — this is the episode that will name what you've been carrying.

Ever find yourself sabotaging your own success the moment things start working? Yeah, I see you there - saying no to opportunities that could expand your reach, undercharging like it's a badge of honor, or suddenly deciding your perfectly good program needs to be "better" before you can launch it.Here's the thing nobody talks about in our field: you're not afraid of failing. You're terrified of succeeding. And after working with hundreds of therapists trying to break free from the traditional one-to-one model, I can tell you this fear is keeping some of the most talented, ethical practitioners I know playing impossibly small.In this episode, I'm getting real about fear of success - the hidden saboteur that's probably running way more of your business decisions than you realize. I share my own story about watching my dad's version of "success" (spoiler: it involved never being home and a stressed-out family), and why I unconsciously decided I wanted nothing to do with that life.Whether you're stuck in pricing guilt, marketing resistance, or that voice saying "who am I to charge premium rates," this episode gives you the psychological insights and practical tools to rewrite your success story without becoming someone you hate.Today, I discuss:Why fear of success hits therapists harder than other entrepreneurs (and why our helper identity makes scaling feel like betrayal)The unconscious "success contracts" you inherited from childhood that are limiting your growth right nowHow I realized my terror of becoming my workaholic father was keeping me from building the impact-driven business I actually wantedThe real cost of staying small - and why your success fear is literally hurting the people you're meant to serveHow success anxiety shows up: endless program tweaking, "opportunity amnesia," and that mysterious tech failure right before launchesWhy attachment styles, trauma, and neurodivergence can make success feel genuinely dangerousThe difference between fear-driven success (hello, burnout culture) and purpose-driven success (sustainable impact that doesn't destroy your life)Practical reframes to shift from "I'm being salesy" to "I'm making it easier for my ideal clients to find me"Small experiments to build your success tolerance without overwhelming your nervous systemRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to ditch the martyrdom and build sustainable, profitable practices that actually serve them.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five starsSelect "Write a Review" and tell me what hit home for you!Hit that follow button if you haven't already - I've got more myth-busting, industry-disrupting episodes coming your wayLinks mentioned in this episode:Ready to heal your relationship with success and build a practice that serves you AND your mission? Learn more about the Therapists Rising Incubator hereFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more real talk about building ethical, profitable therapy businessesDM me on Instagram - seriously, I want to hear what this episode stirred up and which small experiment you're brave enough to try this weekKeywords: fear of success, therapist entrepreneur, scaling therapy practice, diversifying income, pricing guilt, marketing resistance, sustainable success, therapy business growth, imposter syndrome, breaking traditional therapy models

It's 8 PM. You finished seeing clients hours ago, but you're still at your computer responding to course emails, updating social media, and planning next quarter's strategy.Every decision runs through you. Every problem lands on your desk. Your business literally cannot breathe without you.If that sounds familiar—if you've become the center of everything in your business—this isn't a sign you're doing something wrong. It's proof that what you've built actually works.This is the final episode of our From Therapist to Visionary mini-series, where we're talking about the transition every successful therapist-entrepreneur faces: moving from being the engine of your business to being the visionary who guides it.What You'll Learn:How to identify the 4 main bottleneck areas that trap therapists (admin overload, client dependency, marketing hesitancy, decision paralysis)Why your nervous system responses (fight, flight, freeze, fawn) create operational bottlenecks—and how to work with themThe 2 biggest challenges in transitioning to visionary leadership (identity shift and letting go)4 practical steps to evolve from doer to leader without losing your soulHow to audit what only you can do vs. what can be delegated or systematizedWhy creating "visionary time" blocks will transform your businessThis Episode is for You If:→ You're holding everything together but feeling overwhelmed → Your business depends entirely on your personal availability → You want to step into leadership but don't know how to let go → You're ready to move from surviving to thriving as a business ownerYour 4-Step Action Plan:Audit what only you can do - Task inventory to identify what truly requires your voice/visionShift your calendar - Add visionary time blocks, stop perpetual availabilityCreate decision pathways - Define what you own vs. what your team can leadDefine your "enough" leadership model - How much do you want to hold? How do you want to lead?Links & Resources:

You want to grow. You want to reach more people, serve more deeply, make your work financially sustainable.But not if it costs your values. Not if it fries your nervous system. Not if it costs your soul.If you've ever watched other practitioners scale their businesses and thought, "I want to grow, but not like that" - this episode is for you.This is Episode 3 of our From Therapist to Visionary mini-series, where we're tackling the biggest fear of all: scaling without selling out.What You'll Learn:The unspoken fears therapists carry around growth and why visibility feels dangerous3 ethical traps that sabotage well-meaning therapists when scalingWhat "scaling" actually means (hint: it's not just more sales)How to define your own version of "enough" before someone else doesPrograms that honor your capacity and pricing that balances access with sustainabilityThe Scaling with Soul Self-Audit to ensure your growth aligns with your valuesThis Episode is for You If:→ You want to grow but are terrified of "selling out" → You've seen other practitioners scale in ways that felt wrong → You're ready to scale on your own terms, not someone else's blueprintThe Scaling with Soul Self-Audit:What am I scaling for?What does "enough" look like for me?Do my current offers, pricing, and support match my nervous system and values?Links & Resources:

Your calendar is overwhelming. Your nervous system is fried. Every decision - from what email to send to whether you should hire someone - feels exhausting.And every piece of business advice tells you to "step into your CEO energy" or "think like a boss"... but that feels completely wrong in your body.What if the problem isn't that you're not cut out for leadership? What if the problem is that you've only been shown one model of what leadership looks like—and it sucks?This is Episode 2 of our From Therapist to Visionary mini-series, where we're reframing leadership into language and structures that actually honour your therapist's heart and nervous system.Because here's the truth: you ARE already a leader. You're just not leading like yourself yet.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why traditional CEO models are toxic for therapists How hustle culture gaslights you into believing burnout equals success - and why your resistance is actually wisdom.The real reason "CEO" feels like a dirty word (And why that's good news!) Your discomfort with extractive leadership is your superpower.Why the world needs therapists to lead NOW If you don't step into leadership, coaches with no trauma training will. Your resistance to power is what makes you trustworthy to hold it.The clinical skills you already have that translate to CEO-level leadership Case formulation = strategic planning. Dual awareness = managing complexity. Boundaries = sustainable delegation.A therapist-safe decision-making framework Values × Capacity × Vision—how to make choices that honour your nervous system and long-term vision.This Episode is for You If:→ The word "CEO" makes you want to hide under a blanket → You're drowning in decisions but every choice feels exhausting → You want to lead ethically without burning out → You're tired of business advice that ignores your nervous system → You know you need to step into leadership but don't know how to do it authentically → You're ready to make decisions from alignment instead of urgencyKey Takeaways:✨ Your resistance to traditional leadership models is wisdom, not weakness ✨ You already have CEO-level skills—you just need to recognize them ✨ The world desperately needs leaders who understand nervous system regulation, power dynamics, and ethics ✨ Sustainable leadership feels spacious in your body, not contractive ✨ The best decisions align with your values, capacity, AND visionLinks & Resources Mentioned:

You did it.You mapped the modules. Built the curriculum. Maybe even sold out your first launch.Your course, program, or offer is live—and people actually bought it.So… why do you feel so weird?If you're standing in that liminal space between relief and restlessness, pride and paralysis—you're not broken. You're expanding.This episode kicks off our 4-part mini-series From Therapist to Visionary—an unfiltered exploration of what it really takes to scale your business as a values-led therapist. In this first episode of 4, we're unpacking what happens after you launch: the identity disorientation, the emotional crash, and the question no one preps you for…“Now what?”Because this next level?It's not about doing more. It's about becoming someone new.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why the post-launch “dip” is a normal (and necessary) part of growth You're not self-sabotaging—you're recalibrating.How success can trigger stuckness Why pride and paralysis often show up together—and what that means for your nervous system.The myth of “just scale it” and why it's not that simple More sales ≠ more sustainability if your business still relies on burnout to function.How to know if you've built a job… or a business Signs you've recreated your therapy room in digital form—and how to shift into CEO energy.The real work of scaling: identity, structure, and sovereignty Why your next chapter isn't about tweaking a funnel—it's about rewriting your role.This Episode is for You If:→ You've launched your program and are now feeling stuck, unclear, or low-key resentful → You're wondering if you've built something sustainable—or just a new version of overgiving → You want to grow, but don't know what “growth” should actually look like → You're craving a business that honors your nervous system—not one that keeps you in survival mode → You're ready to step into leadership—but need a container to hold you, tooLinks & Resources Mentioned:

You've built your course. Your modules are mapped, your portal's prepped, your curriculum is solid.And then someone asks: “So… where's the community space?”Cue the existential spiral.Because as a therapist, “community” doesn't just mean “extra feature.” It means emotional responsibility. Boundary navigation. And the very real possibility that you'll end up holding space you never consented to.But here's the truth most business coaches skip:When done well, a community component can dramatically improve your program's completion rates, referrals, and student transformation—without draining you.In this episode, we're unpacking the therapist-specific risks of community spaces, the must-have boundaries most course creators miss, and the systems that make a group feel alive without requiring you to be on call 24/7.This isn't just about connection. It's about creating containers that hold your students—and hold you, too.What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why adding a community component often improves completion, retention, and referrals (And how connection helps your students regulate and actually finish the program.)  The therapist-specific risks no one warns you about (Scope creep, overgiving, and “holding the group” without consent.)What platform options work best—and which ones to avoid (Yes, Facebook is easy. But is it actually right for your people?)How to set up your community without it taking over your life (Batching, rituals, alumni leaders, and clear boundaries.)The #1 mistake most course creators make with community spaces (And how to fix it with one simple shift.)This episode is for you if:→ You're building an online program and wondering if you “need” a Facebook group → You've already got a group, but it's become… complicated → You want your students to feel supported—but not at your expense → You're looking for sustainable, ethical ways to boost engagement → You're ready to create a space that works for everyone involved—including youLinks & Resources Mentioned: Want to build a high-impact online course as a therapist—with or without a community component? Check out the Therapists Rising Incubator—your go-to for building ethical, profitable programs that actually get results.Come debrief this episode with me on Instagram: @dr.hayleykellyRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode helped you feel clearer, safer, or more confident—I'd love to hear it.Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are building bold, sustainable businesses on their terms.Here's how to support the show: ✔️ Click here and tap to rate with five stars

It starts off sounding perfect.Create a course once. Let it sell itself. Finally step off the therapy treadmill and wake up to payment notifications instead of a full caseload.But what no one tells you? Most therapists who try that route end up with a silent checkout page and a whole lot of self-doubt.If you've ever wondered why your course isn't selling - or whether this whole “passive income” thing is even real for someone like you - this episode is for you.We're digging into the truth behind evergreen courses, passive income promises, and why live launches are still the best starting point for most therapists.You don't need more funnel jargon. You need real talk about what works, what doesn't, and how to build something that actually fits your energy, ethics, and capacity.This isn't about playing small.It's about building smart.What You'll Learn in This Episode:1. Why passive income isn't as passive as you've been led to believe (Especially for therapists navigating real human needs, not just digital products.)2. What “evergreen” really means—and where it often falls short (Clarity over hype. Always.)3. The hidden pitfalls of evergreening too soon (Because scaling a leaky offer just makes the leaks louder.)4. The emotional weight of delivery models—and how they impact your work (This goes way beyond logistics. It's about connection, meaning, and nervous system safety.)5. How to choose a model that fits your current season—not someone else's strategy (You're not behind. You're building something that lasts.)This episode is for you if:You're tired of trading time for money and want a smarter way forwardYou're curious about evergreen but don't want to screw it upYou've launched before… and it didn't quite landYou want to grow, but only in ways that feel sustainable and alignedYou're ready for honest business strategy that doesn't require burning out to succeedLinks & Resources Mentioned:Want to create your first profitable online program as a therapist? Check out the Therapists Rising Incubator — the go-to program for building ethical, sustainable, high-impact courses. Come hang out or ask follow-up questions on Instagram @dr.hayleykellyRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode gave you something to think about, I'd love to hear it. Your reviews help other therapists find the show—and remind me that these honest conversations matter.Here's how to support the show: ✔️ Click here, tap to rate with five stars

So… someone told you to start a Facebook group to grow your audience.And you did it.You picked a cute name. Made a welcome post. Maybe even went live (sweating bullets but pretending it was chill).And then… crickets.Or worse - an entire digital ghost town of lurkers, silent members, and zero sales.If that's you - this episode is your permission slip and your reality check.Because while Facebook groups are pitched as a must-have lead generation strategy in the online business world, for therapists? It's a lot more complicated.We're breaking down the good, the bad, and the unexpectedly messy reality of using Facebook groups to grow your audience - especially if you're a therapist juggling ethical guidelines, role confusion, and a nervous system that does not want another place to be “on” all the time.This is not about burning it all down.This is about deciding - strategically, ethically, and energetically - if a Facebook group actually fits your business ecosystem.What You'll Learn in This Episode:1. The actual benefits of Facebook groups as a lead gen tool (Yes, there are upsides—but only when done with clear intention.)2. Why groups often become energy leaks instead of marketing assets (And how to avoid becoming a free consultant for 500 people who never buy.)3.  The ethical and legal risks no one tells therapists about (Because duty of care and role confusion don't disappear just because it's “free content.”)4. What to ask yourself before starting a group (Clarity on purpose, boundaries, and your capacity is everything.)5. How to make peace with not starting one—and what to do instead (You're not behind. You're just building with integrity.)This episode is a must-listen if:You're thinking about launching a Facebook group and want to sanity-check it firstYou've already started one… and it's slowly draining your soulYou're a therapist navigating ethical grey zones and craving clearer boundariesYou're looking for audience growth strategies that don't burn you outLinks & Resources Mentioned:Want help building a sustainable, therapist-aligned business? Learn more about the Therapists Rising Incubator program hereCome say hi (or vent about your ghost group) on Instagram: @dr.hayleykellyRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode hit home, I'd love to hear it. Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise, reimagine, and rebuild something powerful.Here's how to support the show: ✔️ Head over to the podcast here and tap to rate with five stars

So… you launched your online program.You crafted the sales page. You sent the emails. You even hit publish while whispering “this better work” under your breath.And then… crickets.Maybe your friend signed up. Maybe your mum said she's proud. But internally? It felt like failure.If that's you—pause right here. Because this episode is your loving intervention and your practical roadmap to get things back on track.We're breaking down the 5 real reasons your online program isn't selling (no fluff, no shame) and giving you a rebuild plan that's strategic, grounded, and therapist-friendly.This is not about hustling harder.This is about learning how to market with clarity, connection, and integrity.What You'll Learn In This Episode:1️⃣ The top 5 mistakes therapists make when launching their first (or third) online program (Yes, even the most heart-centered, overqualified, spreadsheet-loving ones.)2️⃣ Why having no audience is more dangerous than having the wrong niche (And how to start building trust before your next launch.)3️⃣ How to create a program people actually want to buy (Hint: It's not about your modules—it's about their midnight Google searches.)4️⃣ What a proper sales path looks like for high-trust buyers (So you can stop dropping links and start guiding decisions.)5️⃣ The “launch detox” steps that don't just fix your funnel—but your nervous system, too (Let's be real: this is tender work. Your body deserves support!)This episode is a must-listen if: → You've launched a program that didn't sell and want to understand why → You're about to build something and want to avoid painful missteps → You're a therapist trying to be more visible without burning out → You're ready to swap self-doubt for actual strategyLinks & Resources Mentioned:Ready to build a focused, high-impact online program? Learn more about the Therapists Rising Incubator program here Follow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more course creation tips and behind-the-scenes insightsRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode hit home, I'd love to hear about it! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above burnout and build something powerful.Here's how to support the show:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share what you loved mostHit that Follow button so you never miss a dose of clarity and communityLet's rise together—and create online programs that transform lives without burning you out in the process.

Somewhere between your fifth Canva graphic and your third platform login of the day, you started wondering…“Is this what it takes to be seen?”Because apparently, if you're not on Instagram and TikTok and LinkedIn and Threads — you're falling behind. Or invisible. Or both.But here's the thing:For therapists, “visibility” isn't just about reach. It's about safety.And when the business world screams “just show up more,” your nervous system whispers, “at what cost?”This episode is your loving intervention — and a radical permission slip to stop spreading yourself thin and start showing up in a way that actually feels good (and works).What You'll Get (Other than a Visibility Detox):1️⃣ Why choosing one platform can actually make you more successful — not less (Hint: Alignment converts better than exhaustion.)2️⃣ The hidden reasons visibility feels so vulnerable for therapists (It's not resistance — it's your body asking for protection.)3️⃣ A practical 3-question framework to choose the right platform for you (And yes, ignoring TikTok is a valid business strategy.)Your Integration Homework (Don't Skip This)Open your Notes app, grab a journal, or voice memo your future self — and ask:Where are your people already looking for support?What kind of content energizes you instead of draining you?What could you actually sustain for 30 days — without hating your life?Wanna Take This Further?Tag me or DM me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly and tell me: What platform feels most like home for your message? Let's reimagine visibility as a form of leadership — not self-sacrifice.

So… apparently therapists are being replaced by chatbots now. Clients are rolling into sessions with ChatGPT transcripts like,“This helped more than our last three appointments. Oh, and it's free.”Yeah. That's happening. And if you're even mildly freaking out, you're not being dramatic. You're being awake.In this episode, I'm not here to sprinkle affirmations over your fear or convince you to go become a tech bro. I'm here to talk about the real threat to therapists — and spoiler: it's not AI.It's being invisible. Complacent. Undifferentiated in a profession that taught us to color inside the lines… while the world evolved around us.We're talking about what AI actually means for the future of therapy — and how to stay radically human, relevant, and in integrity while everything changes.

Ever feel like your next certification might just be the thing holding you back?If you're nodding along (or feeling personally attacked already), grab a coffee, because this episode is your loving wake-up call. Today, we're tackling the therapist's sneaky habit of certification hoarding—and why your endless pursuit of the next qualification might actually be the biggest roadblock to your success, visibility, and impact.As therapists, we're masters of credential collection. Weekend intensives, expensive online courses, professional masterclasses—we've done it all. But beneath all those shiny certificates is usually a deeper, scarier truth: it's easier to stay safely hidden in perpetual student mode than it is to step out, get visible, and claim our space as the leaders we're meant to be.In this episode, we pull back the curtain on certification addiction, including why therapists cling to credentials, how it's really just an elaborate form of avoidance, and what you're actually hiding from (hint: it's not a lack of expertise).We're diving deep into:The uncomfortable truth about why you're really chasing more certificationsHow your nervous system uses credential collecting as a safety blanket (and how to gently challenge it)The identity traps that keep therapists stuck in the "qualified but invisible" zoneA practical self-assessment to see if you're stuck in a certification loop (get ready for some "oh crap!" moments)Actionable steps to finally break free from perpetual learning and step into bold, messy leadershipWhy your next level is about courage, visibility, and messy action—not another fancy piece of paperConsider this episode your official permission slip to stop hiding behind credentials and start leading from where you are right now—imperfect, brilliant, and ready.Rate, Review & Follow on Apple PodcastsLoving the podcast? Your reviews mean the world to me—and they help more therapists step out from behind their certifications and into their true potential.Here's how to support the show:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share your biggest takeawayHit follow for more episodes on therapist entrepreneurship, visibility, and ethical scalingLinks mentioned in this episode:Ready to finally step out of the shadows and into your leadership? The Therapists Rising Incubator is your safe container to do just that.Connect with me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for real talk on therapist entrepreneurship, behind-the-scenes of launches, and the occasional pep talk (or puppy photo).

Ever thought, “Facebook ads are just a fancy way to light my money on fire”? If the idea of opening Business Manager, setting a budget, or seeing a giant $0 in your results column makes your armpits sweat, this episode is for you.Today, I'm joined by Facebook Ads and Funnel Strategist Natalie Alaimo—the magical unicorn who actually makes ads feel doable (and dare I say, a little bit fun?). With over a decade of real-world experience helping course creators, coaches, and service providers, Natalie's here to spill the tea on how therapists can use Facebook ads to grow their audiences without blowing their budget or losing their minds.We're pulling back the curtain on Facebook ads—what they really are, why they're not as scary (or expensive) as you think, and how you can use paid ads to grow your programs, memberships, and impact in a way that actually feels aligned and strategic.In this episode, we unpack:Why Facebook ads feel terrifying for therapists (and how to reframe that fear)The biggest myths about running ads—and the truths therapists need to knowHow Facebook ads can actually feel ethical, intentional, and alignedThe foundations you need in place before running your first ad (no guesswork!)How even a $5–$10/day budget can grow your audience and email listWhy your funnel, messaging, and creative matter more than your targetingHow to use ads to build visibility and nurture trust (not just sell)What it looks like to make your ad spend pay for itself (yes, really)This episode is an invitation to see Facebook ads differently: not as a last resort or a "risky gamble," but as a powerful tool to help you connect, grow, and serve in bigger ways.Whether you've been ads-curious for a while or you're ready to stop relying solely on organic marketing, this conversation with Natalie will help you ditch the fear, demystify the tech, and finally feel confident pressing publish.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts Loving the podcast? Your reviews mean the world to me—and they help more therapists discover a different (and way more sustainable) path to entrepreneurship.Here's how to support the show:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share your favourite takeawayHit follow for more episodes on therapist entrepreneurship, marketing, and ethical scalingLinks mentioned in this episode:Join Natalie Alaimo's Paid Ads Challenge to start running your first Facebook ads with confidence.Ready to create, sell, and scale your first online program? The Therapists Rising Incubator is where the magic happens.Connect with Natalie on Instagram - @natalie_alaimoFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for therapist biz real talk, launch behind-the-scenes, and the occasional pep talk (or puppy photo).*Disclosure: Please note this episode contains an affiliate link, and we may receive a small commission if you sign up for the Paid Ads Challenge using our link. However, we only recommend products and services that we genuinely believe in and/or use ourselves.

Think AI is just for writing session notes? Think again. If you've been avoiding AI because you don't want to sound like a robot—or worse, feel like you're cheating—this episode is for you.We're pulling back the curtain on AI for therapists—specifically how it can help you grow your practice, build your brand, and sell your digital offers faster and with way less burnout.This isn't a tech tutorial or a boring AI hype session. It's a grounded, therapist-brained deep dive into practical ways to use AI as your personal marketing sidekick (without losing your voice or your values). Whether you're new to the world of AI or already dabbling but feeling overwhelmed, this episode will give you fresh insights and simple next steps.In this episode, we unpack:Why AI isn't here to replace therapists—and how it can actually amplify your impactThe real reason therapists feel resentful about marketing (and how AI can help)5 powerful, practical ways to use AI right now to grow your businessHow AI can shortcut your content creation without sounding genericWhy audience research, email marketing, and launch planning just got a whole lot easierHow to use AI to boost your SEO and get visible—without burning outThe #1 mistake therapists make when using AI (and how to avoid it)This episode is an invitation to see AI differently: not as a threat, but as a tool to help you work smarter, grow faster, and stay true to your mission.If you're ready to make marketing easier, more aligned, and more sustainable, this quick and punchy episode is your permission slip to get started.

Ever thought, “There's no way in hell I could run a webinar”? If the idea of live teaching, pitching, or even showing up on Zoom makes your armpits sweat, this episode is for you.We're pulling back the curtain on webinars—what they really are, why they're not as scary (or salesy) as you think, and how therapists can use them to grow their programs without turning into awkward marketing robots.This isn't a how-to or a slide-building masterclass. It's a belief-shifting, therapist-brained deep dive into the mindset, mission, and magic behind webinars that actually feel good to run. Whether you're launching your first course or still stuck in analysis paralysis, you'll walk away with a fresh, grounded perspective on visibility and ethical selling.In this episode, we unpack:Why webinars feel terrifying for therapists (and how to reframe that fear)What a webinar actually is—and how it's more like a group session than a sales pitchThe #1 mindset shift that makes webinars easier (and less cringe)How to run a webinar without feeling fake, forced, or overexposedWhy live teaching builds more trust than any sales page ever couldHow webinars help you grow your audience and your confidenceThe real reason webinars work—even if you mess it up the first timeThis episode is an invitation to see webinars differently: not as a “launch strategy,” but as a way to serve, connect, and show up as the leader your people need.Whether you've got a course idea brewing or you're knee-deep in launch mode, this episode will help you ditch the fear, build belief, and finally press go live.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLoving the podcast? Your reviews mean the world to me—and they help more therapists discover a different (and way more aligned) path to entrepreneurship.Here's how to support the show:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share your favourite takeawayHit follow for more episodes on business, mindset, and rising beyond the therapy roomLinks mentioned in this episode:Ready to create, sell, and scale your first online program? The Therapists Rising Incubator is where the magic happens.Follow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for therapist biz real talk, launch behind-the-scenes, and the occasional pep talk (or puppy photo).Let's rise together—one heart-aligned webinar at a time.

Ever stared at your course platform and thought, “What in fresh hell is this?!” If the idea of choosing the right tech stack for your online program makes you want to throw your laptop out the window, this episode is for you.We're cutting through the noise to talk about the real-world pros and cons of the most popular hosting and delivery platforms for therapists creating online programs, memberships, and courses. No fluff. No tech jargon. Just honest, practical guidance to help you pick a platform that works for you—without the tears and 1 a.m. Google spirals.Heads up: This episode isn't about free or low-cost tools. If you're looking for budget-friendly tech, go listen to Episode 96, where we break those down in detail. Today's episode is all about sustainable, scale-ready platforms for therapists ready to do this thing right the first time.In this episode, we discuss:- The 4 core features therapists actually need in a course platform- How to figure out what YOU need before choosing a tool- Why your tech should feel invisible to the end user- The pros, cons, and quirks of Kajabi, Thinkific, Teachable, MemberVault, Podia, and Innovorise- How to avoid shiny object syndrome and focus on launching- The #1 tech mistake that delays most therapist course creators- Why “good enough” tech beats “perfect” tech every damn timeWhether you're mid-launch, picking your first platform, or considering a switch—this episode will help you get clarity, cut through overwhelm, and finally move forward with confidence.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLoving the podcast? I'd so appreciate a quick review! Your feedback helps us reach more therapists who are ready to rise, build scalable businesses, and change the mental health game.Here's how to support the show:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and tell me what you loved about the episodeHit that follow button for more no-fluff episodes on business, mindset, and therapist entrepreneurshipLinks mentioned in this episode:Want to bootstrap with low-cost tools? Listen to Episode 96: Budget-Friendly Tech for TherapistsReady to build and scale your online program? Check out the Therapists Rising IncubatorCurious about Innovorise (our therapist-specific platform)? Learn more inside the IncubatorFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for behind-the-scenes biz wisdom, real talk, and the occasional dog picLet's rise together—without the tech headaches, friend.

Ever feel like you're doing all the “right” things—planning, learning, dreaming big—but you still can't seem to move forward?You're not lazy. You're not broken. You're likely stuck in a very real nervous system response… and no amount of strategy can fix that alone.In this powerful and vulnerable episode, I'm joined by clinical health psychologist, researcher, and EFT powerhouse Dr. Peta Stapleton to unpack the real reasons so many therapists feel paralyzed when trying to launch, pivot, or diversify their income. (Spoiler alert: it's not just about mindset. It's about safety.)We talk about the subconscious beliefs keeping you stuck and how Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT tapping) can help you move from freeze to flow.Oh—and we do a LIVE tapping demo, right in the middle of the episode. Yep. I let Peta walk me through real-time decision-making anxiety and fear of failure… and you can tap along with us!In this episode, we discuss:The real reason overthinking and analysis paralysis hits therapists so hardWhy “little therapist you” might be scared AF of being visibleWhat's actually happening neurologically when you feel frozenHow tapping calms the body and unlocks decision-making and actionA guided EFT sequence you can follow along with (for fear of failure + being stuck)How to use tapping proactively before launches, posts, or scary visibility momentsWhat Peta herself taps on as a business owner and creatorWhether you're dragging your feet on launching that offer, stuck in logo-picking limbo, or just secretly terrified of being seen—this episode is a gentle, practical intervention for your nervous system and your dreams.

Ever been asked to do a quick guest presentation—only to find yourself buried in hours of prep, stressing over pricing, and wondering if it was even worth it?If you've ever felt stuck between wanting visibility and honouring your energy and expertise, this episode is for you.In this power-packed 15-minute episode, I'm diving into one of the most common dilemmas for therapists stepping into entrepreneurship: how to handle guest speaking requests—ethically, confidently, and without losing yourself in people-pleasing.Whether you're being asked to present at a professional development day, speak inside someone else's program, or you're thinking about bringing a guest into your own course, this episode will help you get clear on when to say yes, how to price fairly, and how to protect your precious time and energy.In this episode, I discuss:The “resentment line” pricing strategy and how to use it to avoid overgivingWhen it's OK to say yes for visibility—and when it's just not worth itHow to ask about budgets like a pro (without feeling awkward)Pricing benchmarks for PD gigs and guest teaching opportunities ($500–$1500+)What to consider if you're bringing in a guest expert into your programHow to make values-aligned decisions that serve both your business and your nervous system

Ever feel like you've crammed absolutely EVERYTHING into your online course because you're afraid it's not enough? You're not alone! In this episode, I'm diving into one of the biggest challenges therapists face when creating online programs - overdelivering to the point where students get overwhelmed and drop off.I reveal why your students aren't completing your course (hint: it's not because they're lazy) and introduce you to the powerful frameworks we use in the Therapists Rising Incubator to create streamlined, high-impact courses that actually get completed.Whether you're still planning your first online program or wondering why students aren't finishing your existing course, this episode gives you practical tools to cut the bloat without losing depth.In this episode, I discuss:Why therapists tend to overdeliver in online courses (and the fears driving this behavior)The Golden Thread framework for creating a clear path from problem to transformationHow to use the Strategic Filter to ruthlessly cut anything that doesn't serve your studentsPractical benchmarks for course design (optimal video length, lessons per module, and PDF best practices)How to reconnect with your power instead of people-pleasing through excessive contentRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? I'd absolutely love to hear from you! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to build a focused, high-impact online program? Learn more about the Therapists Rising Incubator program hereFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more course creation tips and behind-the-scenes insights!Let's rise together and create online programs that transform lives without burning you out in the process!

Ever find yourself staring at a blank page, trying to name your online program and getting absolutely nowhere? You're not alone! In this mini-episode, I'm tackling one of the most common questions therapists ask when creating their first online program.In this episode, I break down why so many therapists struggle with naming their programs and introduce my proven CLEAR framework specifically designed for therapists looking to take their expertise online.Whether you're just starting to brainstorm your first online offering or you've been stuck in the naming phase for months, this episode will give you the practical framework and confidence to finally choose a name that attracts your ideal clients and communicates your value.In this episode, I discuss:Why program naming is particularly challenging for therapists (and the three common traps we fall into)The CLEAR framework: Client-Centered, Laser-Focused, Evokes Emotion, Actionable, and RealisticPractical ways to test your program name ideas with your target audienceWhat to do when you're stuck between multiple good options (and why perfectionism is your biggest enemy)Why "until death do you part" doesn't apply to program names—you can always change it later!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts Love this episode? I'd absolutely love to hear from you! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to build an online program that transforms lives? Learn more about the Therapist Rising Incubator program hereFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly and share your program name ideas with me!Let's rise together and create online programs that showcase your expertise, connect with your ideal clients, and make a bigger impact beyond the therapy room!

Ever find yourself escaping the burnout of 1:1 clinical work, only to accidentally build the exact same stressful environment online? Trust me, I've been there—done that—got the damn t-shirt.In this Unmasked Monthly Musing, I'm getting totally real with you about something NOBODY seems to be talking about: how we therapists often recreate the exact same painful patterns in our online businesses that we were desperately trying to escape from in our clinical practices.Whether you're burnt out in your practice, already dipping your toes into the online world, or just curious about what else is possible beyond the therapy room, this episode is your permission slip to recognize these sneaky patterns and break free from them once and for all.I'm sharing my own messy journey—as a neurodivergent therapist who thought freedom was on the other side of clinical work (spoiler alert: my brain had other plans!)—plus the practical steps I've used to create a business that actually feels good to run.In this episode, I discuss:Why we leave clinical work and the beautiful fantasy of online business that doesn't always match realityHow we unconsciously recreate our old stress patterns in shiny new packages (and the psychological reasons WHY this happens)The values conflicts that tear us apart when we don't recognize them (hello, freedom vs. contribution battle!)Practical, actionable steps to break these patterns and build a business that honors who you really areCreating an intentional business designed around your neurodivergence, values, and the life you actually want to liveRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? I'd absolutely love to hear from you! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to build a business that honors who you truly are? Learn more about the Therapist Rising Incubator program hereFollow me on Instagram for more behind-the-scenes insights and unfiltered reflectionsLet's rise together and create businesses that actually support the lives we want to live—not just recreate the same old stress in a new setting!

Are you struggling to price your online program with confidence? Do you second-guess yourself when setting price points, even though you KNOW your content delivers incredible transformation?In this value-packed episode, I'm diving deep into the psychology behind pricing your therapy programs. We're moving beyond "what to charge" into the more powerful territory of "WHY to charge it" — because understanding the true value of your expertise is the key to pricing with confidence.Building on last week's breakdown of what therapists are currently charging in Episode 176, this episode gives you practical frameworks to calculate your program's specific value. I share the exact formulas that have helped hundreds of therapists in our community price their programs at premium rates that reflect their true worth.In this episode, I share:The critical shift from cost-based to value-based pricing (and why this mindset change is essential for therapists)The Transformation Equation that quantifies your program's value based on pain level, urgency, market demand, and accessibilityHow to use the Premium Positioning Matrix to strategically place your program in high-value quadrantsWhy information alone has minimal value—and how to position your program as a transformation vehiclePractical steps to overcome the pricing paradox that keeps most therapists underchargingThis isn't just about making more money—it's about creating alignment between the value you provide and how you price it. When you charge what your program is truly worth, everyone wins: you receive fair compensation, and your clients invest at a level that drives their commitment and results.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Listen to part one of this Pricing conversation - Episode 176: Pricing Your Online Program: The Exact Numbers Therapists Are Charging in 2025Listen to Episode 118 on creating scholarship programs for your coursesFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly and DM me your favourite pricing framework!Let's rise together and price our programs based on the transformation we provide—not the hours we spend creating them!

Have you launched your online program, gained some traction, but now find yourself stuck in a frustrating plateau? You're not alone—welcome to what I call "The Messy Middle."In this raw, unfiltered episode, I'm breaking down the awkward growth phase that NO ONE in the online space wants to talk about. It's that frustrating gap between having a program that works and creating a truly scalable business. If you're working harder than ever but seeing diminishing returns, this episode is your roadmap out of the plateau.I pull back the curtain on my own messy middle experiences and share the exact framework that helped me (and hundreds of my students) push through to create sustainable, scalable success.In this episode, I share:Why the "Messy Middle" exists and the 3 undeniable signs you're stuck in itThe crucial shift from therapist/creator to CEO (and the simple "Decision Filter" that makes this transition easier)How to break free from energy-intensive hustle and build "Minimum Effective Systems" that scale without burning you outWhy DIY approaches become your biggest bottleneck (and how to identify exactly what type of support will move the needle)Real examples of therapists who've successfully navigated this phase (including specific before/after metrics)Actionable steps you can implement THIS WEEK to start breaking through your plateauThis isn't about working harder—it's about working differently. The strategies that got you to your first successful launch won't get you to consistent five-figure months. It's time to evolve your approach.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Follow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more scaling insights and behind-the-scenes moments!Let's rise together and create a business that scales without sacrificing your sanity or soul—one strategic shift at a time!

Pricing your online program shouldn't be a shot in the dark—and yet for so many therapists, it's the most anxiety-inducing part of the creation process.If you've ever stared at that empty price box wondering what the hell to charge for your expertise, this mini episode is for you! I'm breaking down the four core program types that therapists are creating right now and sharing the EXACT price ranges that are working in today's market.Whether you're creating your first mini program or preparing to launch a high-ticket mastermind, you'll walk away with concrete numbers based on real-world examples from therapists just like you—not theoretical frameworks or wishful thinking.In this mini episode, I share:The four core program types successful therapists are creating (and what to charge for each)Real-world examples of therapists who've successfully launched at each price pointThe three critical factors that determine where your program should fall within these rangesWhy starting smaller might be your fastest path to successA preview of next week's deep dive into value-based pricing frameworksThis is your permission slip to price your program confidently, based on what's actually working in our community right now.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Follow me on Instagram for more pricing insights and behind-the-scenes moments!Learn more about the Incubator program mentioned in this episodeLet's rise together and create the future of therapy—one confidently-priced program at a time!

As we head into 2025, I'm noticing something fascinating happening in our field - this quiet but powerful shift where therapists are finally starting to talk about the elephant in the room: spirituality. And honestly? It's about bloody time.I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Tatiana da Silva, a registered psychologist in Sydney, OG member of our community, and the brilliant mind behind Integrated Wisdom. What makes this conversation so powerful is that Tatiana has done what many of us secretly wish we could - she's built a thriving practice and business around integrating spirituality and psychology in an evidence-based, ethical way.What blows my mind about Tatiana's journey is how she transformed from hiding her spiritual interests (seriously, she couldn't even tell ME about them at first!) to becoming a leading voice helping other therapists embrace this dimension of human experience. And the research backing this up? It's absolutely compelling.In this episode, we dive deep into:The surprising research showing how spirituality provides significant protection against depression, anxiety, and substance use issues (the numbers will shock you!)How the mental health field has artificially separated psychology from spirituality (and why this might be contributing to our clients' suffering)What spirituality actually IS (and why it's different from religion)The most common fears therapists have about incorporating spirituality (and how to ethically navigate them)Practical ways to start having these conversations with your clients tomorrowHow embracing your authentic interests can become your unique niche and business differentiatorThis conversation isn't just about spirituality - it's about having the courage to follow what lights you up professionally, even when it feels risky. Whether you identify as spiritual or not, Tatiana's journey offers a masterclass in turning your unique perspective into a thriving niche that attracts aligned clients and colleagues.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how: Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars. Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode! And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Download Tatiana's free guide: "20 Client Conversation Starters" for ethically incorporating spirituality into your practiceJoin the waitlist for "The Conscious Therapist" course opening in April here.Follow Tatiana on Instagram @integrated_wisdom for more insights on the science of spiritualityFollow me on Instagram for more behind-the-scenes moments and insights!Let's rise together and create the future of therapy—one bold step at a time.

Ever heard of tapping (EFT) and wondered if it's actually backed by science? Or maybe you've been curious about how therapists can integrate it into their work for better client outcomes (and to prevent burnout for themselves)?By popular demand, we're re-releasing this fan-favourite episode with the brilliant Dr. Peta Stapleton, clinical psychologist, researcher, and a global leader in Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT), aka tapping.EFT isn't just some woo-woo trend—it's a powerful, research-backed tool that's showing incredible results for issues like trauma, chronic pain, food cravings, burnout, and more. And in this episode, we dive into exactly why therapists need to be paying attention.What You'll Learn in This Episode:- The science behind EFT—how tapping works on a biological and neurological level- Why EFT is still considered “fringe” (and why that's finally changing!)- The research-backed benefits of EFT for trauma, stress, and even DNA changes- How therapists can use EFT to prevent burnout and compassion fatigue- The future of EFT—how it's being integrated into mainstream therapyIf you're even remotely curious about how tapping could transform the way you work with clients (and even support your own nervous system as a therapist), this is a must-listen episode!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help more therapists find this podcast and confidently explore new, evidence-based tools like EFT.Here's how:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most!Also, if you haven't already, hit follow so you never miss an episode—more game-changing insights are coming your way!Links & Resources Mentioned in This Episode:- Dr. Peta Stapleton's Website – Learn more about EFT and her research- Training for Health Professionals – Want to integrate EFT into your practice? Check out Peta's professional training - The Incubator Waitlist – Ready to scale your impact with an online program? Get on the waitlist for my signature program