Therapists Rising Podcast

You were trained to be ethical. To follow the rules. To keep yourself out of the spotlight and let the system guide the way.But what happens when the system itself is no longer fit for purpose?In this milestone episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on a truth I've been sitting with for a long time — and the reckoning that finally made me say, “I can't keep pretending this is working.” This isn't a celebration. It's a confession. A call to those of us who've felt the discomfort of playing small while the field we love becomes harder to recognize.You'll hear the story behind my 2016 keynote that went silent, the inner war between staying beloved and speaking what's true, and the unignorable patterns I've witnessed after mentoring hundreds of therapists trying to do business ethically — but innovatively — in a profession that resists both.If you've ever wondered:Is it just me, or is the system actually broken?Why does it feel like there's no room for nuance or newness anymore?Can I still be a therapist if I want to burn the rulebook?…this one's for you.In this episode, I discuss:The therapist identity crisis: why staying safe often means staying silentHow outdated ethical codes are strangling innovation and visibilityThe story of a therapist being investigated for a Mental Health Week post — and why it's not an outlierWhat happened after my 2016 keynote — and why I buried the leadership part of me for yearsThe psychic split between scaling a beloved brand and stepping into disruptive truthWhy the future of mental health is being built outside our profession — and why that terrifies meThe real patterns I can't unsee anymore: watered-down offers, clinician burnout, unethical wellness gurus going uncheckedA soft reveal of the Mental Health 3.0 Compass — not a product, but a new lens to see what's nextA call to those who feel “too much to be seen, but too big to stay small”If you've ever felt like you're breaking some invisible contract just by wanting more — more impact, more honesty, more space to grow — this is the episode that will name what you've been carrying.

Ever find yourself sabotaging your own success the moment things start working? Yeah, I see you there - saying no to opportunities that could expand your reach, undercharging like it's a badge of honor, or suddenly deciding your perfectly good program needs to be "better" before you can launch it.Here's the thing nobody talks about in our field: you're not afraid of failing. You're terrified of succeeding. And after working with hundreds of therapists trying to break free from the traditional one-to-one model, I can tell you this fear is keeping some of the most talented, ethical practitioners I know playing impossibly small.In this episode, I'm getting real about fear of success - the hidden saboteur that's probably running way more of your business decisions than you realize. I share my own story about watching my dad's version of "success" (spoiler: it involved never being home and a stressed-out family), and why I unconsciously decided I wanted nothing to do with that life.Whether you're stuck in pricing guilt, marketing resistance, or that voice saying "who am I to charge premium rates," this episode gives you the psychological insights and practical tools to rewrite your success story without becoming someone you hate.Today, I discuss:Why fear of success hits therapists harder than other entrepreneurs (and why our helper identity makes scaling feel like betrayal)The unconscious "success contracts" you inherited from childhood that are limiting your growth right nowHow I realized my terror of becoming my workaholic father was keeping me from building the impact-driven business I actually wantedThe real cost of staying small - and why your success fear is literally hurting the people you're meant to serveHow success anxiety shows up: endless program tweaking, "opportunity amnesia," and that mysterious tech failure right before launchesWhy attachment styles, trauma, and neurodivergence can make success feel genuinely dangerousThe difference between fear-driven success (hello, burnout culture) and purpose-driven success (sustainable impact that doesn't destroy your life)Practical reframes to shift from "I'm being salesy" to "I'm making it easier for my ideal clients to find me"Small experiments to build your success tolerance without overwhelming your nervous systemRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to ditch the martyrdom and build sustainable, profitable practices that actually serve them.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five starsSelect "Write a Review" and tell me what hit home for you!Hit that follow button if you haven't already - I've got more myth-busting, industry-disrupting episodes coming your wayLinks mentioned in this episode:Ready to heal your relationship with success and build a practice that serves you AND your mission? Learn more about the Therapists Rising Incubator hereFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more real talk about building ethical, profitable therapy businessesDM me on Instagram - seriously, I want to hear what this episode stirred up and which small experiment you're brave enough to try this weekKeywords: fear of success, therapist entrepreneur, scaling therapy practice, diversifying income, pricing guilt, marketing resistance, sustainable success, therapy business growth, imposter syndrome, breaking traditional therapy models

It's 8 PM. You finished seeing clients hours ago, but you're still at your computer responding to course emails, updating social media, and planning next quarter's strategy.Every decision runs through you. Every problem lands on your desk. Your business literally cannot breathe without you.If that sounds familiar—if you've become the center of everything in your business—this isn't a sign you're doing something wrong. It's proof that what you've built actually works.This is the final episode of our From Therapist to Visionary mini-series, where we're talking about the transition every successful therapist-entrepreneur faces: moving from being the engine of your business to being the visionary who guides it.What You'll Learn:How to identify the 4 main bottleneck areas that trap therapists (admin overload, client dependency, marketing hesitancy, decision paralysis)Why your nervous system responses (fight, flight, freeze, fawn) create operational bottlenecks—and how to work with themThe 2 biggest challenges in transitioning to visionary leadership (identity shift and letting go)4 practical steps to evolve from doer to leader without losing your soulHow to audit what only you can do vs. what can be delegated or systematizedWhy creating "visionary time" blocks will transform your businessThis Episode is for You If:→ You're holding everything together but feeling overwhelmed → Your business depends entirely on your personal availability → You want to step into leadership but don't know how to let go → You're ready to move from surviving to thriving as a business ownerYour 4-Step Action Plan:Audit what only you can do - Task inventory to identify what truly requires your voice/visionShift your calendar - Add visionary time blocks, stop perpetual availabilityCreate decision pathways - Define what you own vs. what your team can leadDefine your "enough" leadership model - How much do you want to hold? How do you want to lead?Links & Resources:

You want to grow. You want to reach more people, serve more deeply, make your work financially sustainable.But not if it costs your values. Not if it fries your nervous system. Not if it costs your soul.If you've ever watched other practitioners scale their businesses and thought, "I want to grow, but not like that" - this episode is for you.This is Episode 3 of our From Therapist to Visionary mini-series, where we're tackling the biggest fear of all: scaling without selling out.What You'll Learn:The unspoken fears therapists carry around growth and why visibility feels dangerous3 ethical traps that sabotage well-meaning therapists when scalingWhat "scaling" actually means (hint: it's not just more sales)How to define your own version of "enough" before someone else doesPrograms that honor your capacity and pricing that balances access with sustainabilityThe Scaling with Soul Self-Audit to ensure your growth aligns with your valuesThis Episode is for You If:→ You want to grow but are terrified of "selling out" → You've seen other practitioners scale in ways that felt wrong → You're ready to scale on your own terms, not someone else's blueprintThe Scaling with Soul Self-Audit:What am I scaling for?What does "enough" look like for me?Do my current offers, pricing, and support match my nervous system and values?Links & Resources:

Your calendar is overwhelming. Your nervous system is fried. Every decision - from what email to send to whether you should hire someone - feels exhausting.And every piece of business advice tells you to "step into your CEO energy" or "think like a boss"... but that feels completely wrong in your body.What if the problem isn't that you're not cut out for leadership? What if the problem is that you've only been shown one model of what leadership looks like—and it sucks?This is Episode 2 of our From Therapist to Visionary mini-series, where we're reframing leadership into language and structures that actually honour your therapist's heart and nervous system.Because here's the truth: you ARE already a leader. You're just not leading like yourself yet.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why traditional CEO models are toxic for therapists How hustle culture gaslights you into believing burnout equals success - and why your resistance is actually wisdom.The real reason "CEO" feels like a dirty word (And why that's good news!) Your discomfort with extractive leadership is your superpower.Why the world needs therapists to lead NOW If you don't step into leadership, coaches with no trauma training will. Your resistance to power is what makes you trustworthy to hold it.The clinical skills you already have that translate to CEO-level leadership Case formulation = strategic planning. Dual awareness = managing complexity. Boundaries = sustainable delegation.A therapist-safe decision-making framework Values × Capacity × Vision—how to make choices that honour your nervous system and long-term vision.This Episode is for You If:→ The word "CEO" makes you want to hide under a blanket → You're drowning in decisions but every choice feels exhausting → You want to lead ethically without burning out → You're tired of business advice that ignores your nervous system → You know you need to step into leadership but don't know how to do it authentically → You're ready to make decisions from alignment instead of urgencyKey Takeaways:✨ Your resistance to traditional leadership models is wisdom, not weakness ✨ You already have CEO-level skills—you just need to recognize them ✨ The world desperately needs leaders who understand nervous system regulation, power dynamics, and ethics ✨ Sustainable leadership feels spacious in your body, not contractive ✨ The best decisions align with your values, capacity, AND visionLinks & Resources Mentioned:

You did it.You mapped the modules. Built the curriculum. Maybe even sold out your first launch.Your course, program, or offer is live—and people actually bought it.So… why do you feel so weird?If you're standing in that liminal space between relief and restlessness, pride and paralysis—you're not broken. You're expanding.This episode kicks off our 4-part mini-series From Therapist to Visionary—an unfiltered exploration of what it really takes to scale your business as a values-led therapist. In this first episode of 4, we're unpacking what happens after you launch: the identity disorientation, the emotional crash, and the question no one preps you for…“Now what?”Because this next level?It's not about doing more. It's about becoming someone new.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why the post-launch “dip” is a normal (and necessary) part of growth You're not self-sabotaging—you're recalibrating.How success can trigger stuckness Why pride and paralysis often show up together—and what that means for your nervous system.The myth of “just scale it” and why it's not that simple More sales ≠ more sustainability if your business still relies on burnout to function.How to know if you've built a job… or a business Signs you've recreated your therapy room in digital form—and how to shift into CEO energy.The real work of scaling: identity, structure, and sovereignty Why your next chapter isn't about tweaking a funnel—it's about rewriting your role.This Episode is for You If:→ You've launched your program and are now feeling stuck, unclear, or low-key resentful → You're wondering if you've built something sustainable—or just a new version of overgiving → You want to grow, but don't know what “growth” should actually look like → You're craving a business that honors your nervous system—not one that keeps you in survival mode → You're ready to step into leadership—but need a container to hold you, tooLinks & Resources Mentioned:

You've built your course. Your modules are mapped, your portal's prepped, your curriculum is solid.And then someone asks: “So… where's the community space?”Cue the existential spiral.Because as a therapist, “community” doesn't just mean “extra feature.” It means emotional responsibility. Boundary navigation. And the very real possibility that you'll end up holding space you never consented to.But here's the truth most business coaches skip:When done well, a community component can dramatically improve your program's completion rates, referrals, and student transformation—without draining you.In this episode, we're unpacking the therapist-specific risks of community spaces, the must-have boundaries most course creators miss, and the systems that make a group feel alive without requiring you to be on call 24/7.This isn't just about connection. It's about creating containers that hold your students—and hold you, too.What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why adding a community component often improves completion, retention, and referrals (And how connection helps your students regulate and actually finish the program.)  The therapist-specific risks no one warns you about (Scope creep, overgiving, and “holding the group” without consent.)What platform options work best—and which ones to avoid (Yes, Facebook is easy. But is it actually right for your people?)How to set up your community without it taking over your life (Batching, rituals, alumni leaders, and clear boundaries.)The #1 mistake most course creators make with community spaces (And how to fix it with one simple shift.)This episode is for you if:→ You're building an online program and wondering if you “need” a Facebook group → You've already got a group, but it's become… complicated → You want your students to feel supported—but not at your expense → You're looking for sustainable, ethical ways to boost engagement → You're ready to create a space that works for everyone involved—including youLinks & Resources Mentioned: Want to build a high-impact online course as a therapist—with or without a community component? Check out the Therapists Rising Incubator—your go-to for building ethical, profitable programs that actually get results.Come debrief this episode with me on Instagram: @dr.hayleykellyRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode helped you feel clearer, safer, or more confident—I'd love to hear it.Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are building bold, sustainable businesses on their terms.Here's how to support the show: ✔️ Click here and tap to rate with five stars

It starts off sounding perfect.Create a course once. Let it sell itself. Finally step off the therapy treadmill and wake up to payment notifications instead of a full caseload.But what no one tells you? Most therapists who try that route end up with a silent checkout page and a whole lot of self-doubt.If you've ever wondered why your course isn't selling - or whether this whole “passive income” thing is even real for someone like you - this episode is for you.We're digging into the truth behind evergreen courses, passive income promises, and why live launches are still the best starting point for most therapists.You don't need more funnel jargon. You need real talk about what works, what doesn't, and how to build something that actually fits your energy, ethics, and capacity.This isn't about playing small.It's about building smart.What You'll Learn in This Episode:1. Why passive income isn't as passive as you've been led to believe (Especially for therapists navigating real human needs, not just digital products.)2. What “evergreen” really means—and where it often falls short (Clarity over hype. Always.)3. The hidden pitfalls of evergreening too soon (Because scaling a leaky offer just makes the leaks louder.)4. The emotional weight of delivery models—and how they impact your work (This goes way beyond logistics. It's about connection, meaning, and nervous system safety.)5. How to choose a model that fits your current season—not someone else's strategy (You're not behind. You're building something that lasts.)This episode is for you if:You're tired of trading time for money and want a smarter way forwardYou're curious about evergreen but don't want to screw it upYou've launched before… and it didn't quite landYou want to grow, but only in ways that feel sustainable and alignedYou're ready for honest business strategy that doesn't require burning out to succeedLinks & Resources Mentioned:Want to create your first profitable online program as a therapist? Check out the Therapists Rising Incubator — the go-to program for building ethical, sustainable, high-impact courses. Come hang out or ask follow-up questions on Instagram @dr.hayleykellyRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode gave you something to think about, I'd love to hear it. Your reviews help other therapists find the show—and remind me that these honest conversations matter.Here's how to support the show: ✔️ Click here, tap to rate with five stars

So… someone told you to start a Facebook group to grow your audience.And you did it.You picked a cute name. Made a welcome post. Maybe even went live (sweating bullets but pretending it was chill).And then… crickets.Or worse - an entire digital ghost town of lurkers, silent members, and zero sales.If that's you - this episode is your permission slip and your reality check.Because while Facebook groups are pitched as a must-have lead generation strategy in the online business world, for therapists? It's a lot more complicated.We're breaking down the good, the bad, and the unexpectedly messy reality of using Facebook groups to grow your audience - especially if you're a therapist juggling ethical guidelines, role confusion, and a nervous system that does not want another place to be “on” all the time.This is not about burning it all down.This is about deciding - strategically, ethically, and energetically - if a Facebook group actually fits your business ecosystem.What You'll Learn in This Episode:1. The actual benefits of Facebook groups as a lead gen tool (Yes, there are upsides—but only when done with clear intention.)2. Why groups often become energy leaks instead of marketing assets (And how to avoid becoming a free consultant for 500 people who never buy.)3.  The ethical and legal risks no one tells therapists about (Because duty of care and role confusion don't disappear just because it's “free content.”)4. What to ask yourself before starting a group (Clarity on purpose, boundaries, and your capacity is everything.)5. How to make peace with not starting one—and what to do instead (You're not behind. You're just building with integrity.)This episode is a must-listen if:You're thinking about launching a Facebook group and want to sanity-check it firstYou've already started one… and it's slowly draining your soulYou're a therapist navigating ethical grey zones and craving clearer boundariesYou're looking for audience growth strategies that don't burn you outLinks & Resources Mentioned:Want help building a sustainable, therapist-aligned business? Learn more about the Therapists Rising Incubator program hereCome say hi (or vent about your ghost group) on Instagram: @dr.hayleykellyRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode hit home, I'd love to hear it. Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise, reimagine, and rebuild something powerful.Here's how to support the show: ✔️ Head over to the podcast here and tap to rate with five stars

So… you launched your online program.You crafted the sales page. You sent the emails. You even hit publish while whispering “this better work” under your breath.And then… crickets.Maybe your friend signed up. Maybe your mum said she's proud. But internally? It felt like failure.If that's you—pause right here. Because this episode is your loving intervention and your practical roadmap to get things back on track.We're breaking down the 5 real reasons your online program isn't selling (no fluff, no shame) and giving you a rebuild plan that's strategic, grounded, and therapist-friendly.This is not about hustling harder.This is about learning how to market with clarity, connection, and integrity.What You'll Learn In This Episode:1️⃣ The top 5 mistakes therapists make when launching their first (or third) online program (Yes, even the most heart-centered, overqualified, spreadsheet-loving ones.)2️⃣ Why having no audience is more dangerous than having the wrong niche (And how to start building trust before your next launch.)3️⃣ How to create a program people actually want to buy (Hint: It's not about your modules—it's about their midnight Google searches.)4️⃣ What a proper sales path looks like for high-trust buyers (So you can stop dropping links and start guiding decisions.)5️⃣ The “launch detox” steps that don't just fix your funnel—but your nervous system, too (Let's be real: this is tender work. Your body deserves support!)This episode is a must-listen if: → You've launched a program that didn't sell and want to understand why → You're about to build something and want to avoid painful missteps → You're a therapist trying to be more visible without burning out → You're ready to swap self-doubt for actual strategyLinks & Resources Mentioned:Ready to build a focused, high-impact online program? Learn more about the Therapists Rising Incubator program here Follow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more course creation tips and behind-the-scenes insightsRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode hit home, I'd love to hear about it! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above burnout and build something powerful.Here's how to support the show:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share what you loved mostHit that Follow button so you never miss a dose of clarity and communityLet's rise together—and create online programs that transform lives without burning you out in the process.

Somewhere between your fifth Canva graphic and your third platform login of the day, you started wondering…“Is this what it takes to be seen?”Because apparently, if you're not on Instagram and TikTok and LinkedIn and Threads — you're falling behind. Or invisible. Or both.But here's the thing:For therapists, “visibility” isn't just about reach. It's about safety.And when the business world screams “just show up more,” your nervous system whispers, “at what cost?”This episode is your loving intervention — and a radical permission slip to stop spreading yourself thin and start showing up in a way that actually feels good (and works).What You'll Get (Other than a Visibility Detox):1️⃣ Why choosing one platform can actually make you more successful — not less (Hint: Alignment converts better than exhaustion.)2️⃣ The hidden reasons visibility feels so vulnerable for therapists (It's not resistance — it's your body asking for protection.)3️⃣ A practical 3-question framework to choose the right platform for you (And yes, ignoring TikTok is a valid business strategy.)Your Integration Homework (Don't Skip This)Open your Notes app, grab a journal, or voice memo your future self — and ask:Where are your people already looking for support?What kind of content energizes you instead of draining you?What could you actually sustain for 30 days — without hating your life?Wanna Take This Further?Tag me or DM me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly and tell me: What platform feels most like home for your message? Let's reimagine visibility as a form of leadership — not self-sacrifice.

So… apparently therapists are being replaced by chatbots now. Clients are rolling into sessions with ChatGPT transcripts like,“This helped more than our last three appointments. Oh, and it's free.”Yeah. That's happening. And if you're even mildly freaking out, you're not being dramatic. You're being awake.In this episode, I'm not here to sprinkle affirmations over your fear or convince you to go become a tech bro. I'm here to talk about the real threat to therapists — and spoiler: it's not AI.It's being invisible. Complacent. Undifferentiated in a profession that taught us to color inside the lines… while the world evolved around us.We're talking about what AI actually means for the future of therapy — and how to stay radically human, relevant, and in integrity while everything changes.

Ever feel like your next certification might just be the thing holding you back?If you're nodding along (or feeling personally attacked already), grab a coffee, because this episode is your loving wake-up call. Today, we're tackling the therapist's sneaky habit of certification hoarding—and why your endless pursuit of the next qualification might actually be the biggest roadblock to your success, visibility, and impact.As therapists, we're masters of credential collection. Weekend intensives, expensive online courses, professional masterclasses—we've done it all. But beneath all those shiny certificates is usually a deeper, scarier truth: it's easier to stay safely hidden in perpetual student mode than it is to step out, get visible, and claim our space as the leaders we're meant to be.In this episode, we pull back the curtain on certification addiction, including why therapists cling to credentials, how it's really just an elaborate form of avoidance, and what you're actually hiding from (hint: it's not a lack of expertise).We're diving deep into:The uncomfortable truth about why you're really chasing more certificationsHow your nervous system uses credential collecting as a safety blanket (and how to gently challenge it)The identity traps that keep therapists stuck in the "qualified but invisible" zoneA practical self-assessment to see if you're stuck in a certification loop (get ready for some "oh crap!" moments)Actionable steps to finally break free from perpetual learning and step into bold, messy leadershipWhy your next level is about courage, visibility, and messy action—not another fancy piece of paperConsider this episode your official permission slip to stop hiding behind credentials and start leading from where you are right now—imperfect, brilliant, and ready.Rate, Review & Follow on Apple PodcastsLoving the podcast? Your reviews mean the world to me—and they help more therapists step out from behind their certifications and into their true potential.Here's how to support the show:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share your biggest takeawayHit follow for more episodes on therapist entrepreneurship, visibility, and ethical scalingLinks mentioned in this episode:Ready to finally step out of the shadows and into your leadership? The Therapists Rising Incubator is your safe container to do just that.Connect with me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for real talk on therapist entrepreneurship, behind-the-scenes of launches, and the occasional pep talk (or puppy photo).

Ever thought, “Facebook ads are just a fancy way to light my money on fire”? If the idea of opening Business Manager, setting a budget, or seeing a giant $0 in your results column makes your armpits sweat, this episode is for you.Today, I'm joined by Facebook Ads and Funnel Strategist Natalie Alaimo—the magical unicorn who actually makes ads feel doable (and dare I say, a little bit fun?). With over a decade of real-world experience helping course creators, coaches, and service providers, Natalie's here to spill the tea on how therapists can use Facebook ads to grow their audiences without blowing their budget or losing their minds.We're pulling back the curtain on Facebook ads—what they really are, why they're not as scary (or expensive) as you think, and how you can use paid ads to grow your programs, memberships, and impact in a way that actually feels aligned and strategic.In this episode, we unpack:Why Facebook ads feel terrifying for therapists (and how to reframe that fear)The biggest myths about running ads—and the truths therapists need to knowHow Facebook ads can actually feel ethical, intentional, and alignedThe foundations you need in place before running your first ad (no guesswork!)How even a $5–$10/day budget can grow your audience and email listWhy your funnel, messaging, and creative matter more than your targetingHow to use ads to build visibility and nurture trust (not just sell)What it looks like to make your ad spend pay for itself (yes, really)This episode is an invitation to see Facebook ads differently: not as a last resort or a "risky gamble," but as a powerful tool to help you connect, grow, and serve in bigger ways.Whether you've been ads-curious for a while or you're ready to stop relying solely on organic marketing, this conversation with Natalie will help you ditch the fear, demystify the tech, and finally feel confident pressing publish.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts Loving the podcast? Your reviews mean the world to me—and they help more therapists discover a different (and way more sustainable) path to entrepreneurship.Here's how to support the show:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share your favourite takeawayHit follow for more episodes on therapist entrepreneurship, marketing, and ethical scalingLinks mentioned in this episode:Join Natalie Alaimo's Paid Ads Challenge to start running your first Facebook ads with confidence.Ready to create, sell, and scale your first online program? The Therapists Rising Incubator is where the magic happens.Connect with Natalie on Instagram - @natalie_alaimoFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for therapist biz real talk, launch behind-the-scenes, and the occasional pep talk (or puppy photo).*Disclosure: Please note this episode contains an affiliate link, and we may receive a small commission if you sign up for the Paid Ads Challenge using our link. However, we only recommend products and services that we genuinely believe in and/or use ourselves.

Think AI is just for writing session notes? Think again. If you've been avoiding AI because you don't want to sound like a robot—or worse, feel like you're cheating—this episode is for you.We're pulling back the curtain on AI for therapists—specifically how it can help you grow your practice, build your brand, and sell your digital offers faster and with way less burnout.This isn't a tech tutorial or a boring AI hype session. It's a grounded, therapist-brained deep dive into practical ways to use AI as your personal marketing sidekick (without losing your voice or your values). Whether you're new to the world of AI or already dabbling but feeling overwhelmed, this episode will give you fresh insights and simple next steps.In this episode, we unpack:Why AI isn't here to replace therapists—and how it can actually amplify your impactThe real reason therapists feel resentful about marketing (and how AI can help)5 powerful, practical ways to use AI right now to grow your businessHow AI can shortcut your content creation without sounding genericWhy audience research, email marketing, and launch planning just got a whole lot easierHow to use AI to boost your SEO and get visible—without burning outThe #1 mistake therapists make when using AI (and how to avoid it)This episode is an invitation to see AI differently: not as a threat, but as a tool to help you work smarter, grow faster, and stay true to your mission.If you're ready to make marketing easier, more aligned, and more sustainable, this quick and punchy episode is your permission slip to get started.

Ever thought, “There's no way in hell I could run a webinar”? If the idea of live teaching, pitching, or even showing up on Zoom makes your armpits sweat, this episode is for you.We're pulling back the curtain on webinars—what they really are, why they're not as scary (or salesy) as you think, and how therapists can use them to grow their programs without turning into awkward marketing robots.This isn't a how-to or a slide-building masterclass. It's a belief-shifting, therapist-brained deep dive into the mindset, mission, and magic behind webinars that actually feel good to run. Whether you're launching your first course or still stuck in analysis paralysis, you'll walk away with a fresh, grounded perspective on visibility and ethical selling.In this episode, we unpack:Why webinars feel terrifying for therapists (and how to reframe that fear)What a webinar actually is—and how it's more like a group session than a sales pitchThe #1 mindset shift that makes webinars easier (and less cringe)How to run a webinar without feeling fake, forced, or overexposedWhy live teaching builds more trust than any sales page ever couldHow webinars help you grow your audience and your confidenceThe real reason webinars work—even if you mess it up the first timeThis episode is an invitation to see webinars differently: not as a “launch strategy,” but as a way to serve, connect, and show up as the leader your people need.Whether you've got a course idea brewing or you're knee-deep in launch mode, this episode will help you ditch the fear, build belief, and finally press go live.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLoving the podcast? Your reviews mean the world to me—and they help more therapists discover a different (and way more aligned) path to entrepreneurship.Here's how to support the show:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share your favourite takeawayHit follow for more episodes on business, mindset, and rising beyond the therapy roomLinks mentioned in this episode:Ready to create, sell, and scale your first online program? The Therapists Rising Incubator is where the magic happens.Follow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for therapist biz real talk, launch behind-the-scenes, and the occasional pep talk (or puppy photo).Let's rise together—one heart-aligned webinar at a time.

Ever stared at your course platform and thought, “What in fresh hell is this?!” If the idea of choosing the right tech stack for your online program makes you want to throw your laptop out the window, this episode is for you.We're cutting through the noise to talk about the real-world pros and cons of the most popular hosting and delivery platforms for therapists creating online programs, memberships, and courses. No fluff. No tech jargon. Just honest, practical guidance to help you pick a platform that works for you—without the tears and 1 a.m. Google spirals.Heads up: This episode isn't about free or low-cost tools. If you're looking for budget-friendly tech, go listen to Episode 96, where we break those down in detail. Today's episode is all about sustainable, scale-ready platforms for therapists ready to do this thing right the first time.In this episode, we discuss:- The 4 core features therapists actually need in a course platform- How to figure out what YOU need before choosing a tool- Why your tech should feel invisible to the end user- The pros, cons, and quirks of Kajabi, Thinkific, Teachable, MemberVault, Podia, and Innovorise- How to avoid shiny object syndrome and focus on launching- The #1 tech mistake that delays most therapist course creators- Why “good enough” tech beats “perfect” tech every damn timeWhether you're mid-launch, picking your first platform, or considering a switch—this episode will help you get clarity, cut through overwhelm, and finally move forward with confidence.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLoving the podcast? I'd so appreciate a quick review! Your feedback helps us reach more therapists who are ready to rise, build scalable businesses, and change the mental health game.Here's how to support the show:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and tell me what you loved about the episodeHit that follow button for more no-fluff episodes on business, mindset, and therapist entrepreneurshipLinks mentioned in this episode:Want to bootstrap with low-cost tools? Listen to Episode 96: Budget-Friendly Tech for TherapistsReady to build and scale your online program? Check out the Therapists Rising IncubatorCurious about Innovorise (our therapist-specific platform)? Learn more inside the IncubatorFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for behind-the-scenes biz wisdom, real talk, and the occasional dog picLet's rise together—without the tech headaches, friend.

Ever feel like you're doing all the “right” things—planning, learning, dreaming big—but you still can't seem to move forward?You're not lazy. You're not broken. You're likely stuck in a very real nervous system response… and no amount of strategy can fix that alone.In this powerful and vulnerable episode, I'm joined by clinical health psychologist, researcher, and EFT powerhouse Dr. Peta Stapleton to unpack the real reasons so many therapists feel paralyzed when trying to launch, pivot, or diversify their income. (Spoiler alert: it's not just about mindset. It's about safety.)We talk about the subconscious beliefs keeping you stuck and how Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT tapping) can help you move from freeze to flow.Oh—and we do a LIVE tapping demo, right in the middle of the episode. Yep. I let Peta walk me through real-time decision-making anxiety and fear of failure… and you can tap along with us!In this episode, we discuss:The real reason overthinking and analysis paralysis hits therapists so hardWhy “little therapist you” might be scared AF of being visibleWhat's actually happening neurologically when you feel frozenHow tapping calms the body and unlocks decision-making and actionA guided EFT sequence you can follow along with (for fear of failure + being stuck)How to use tapping proactively before launches, posts, or scary visibility momentsWhat Peta herself taps on as a business owner and creatorWhether you're dragging your feet on launching that offer, stuck in logo-picking limbo, or just secretly terrified of being seen—this episode is a gentle, practical intervention for your nervous system and your dreams.

Ever been asked to do a quick guest presentation—only to find yourself buried in hours of prep, stressing over pricing, and wondering if it was even worth it?If you've ever felt stuck between wanting visibility and honouring your energy and expertise, this episode is for you.In this power-packed 15-minute episode, I'm diving into one of the most common dilemmas for therapists stepping into entrepreneurship: how to handle guest speaking requests—ethically, confidently, and without losing yourself in people-pleasing.Whether you're being asked to present at a professional development day, speak inside someone else's program, or you're thinking about bringing a guest into your own course, this episode will help you get clear on when to say yes, how to price fairly, and how to protect your precious time and energy.In this episode, I discuss:The “resentment line” pricing strategy and how to use it to avoid overgivingWhen it's OK to say yes for visibility—and when it's just not worth itHow to ask about budgets like a pro (without feeling awkward)Pricing benchmarks for PD gigs and guest teaching opportunities ($500–$1500+)What to consider if you're bringing in a guest expert into your programHow to make values-aligned decisions that serve both your business and your nervous system

Ever feel like you've crammed absolutely EVERYTHING into your online course because you're afraid it's not enough? You're not alone! In this episode, I'm diving into one of the biggest challenges therapists face when creating online programs - overdelivering to the point where students get overwhelmed and drop off.I reveal why your students aren't completing your course (hint: it's not because they're lazy) and introduce you to the powerful frameworks we use in the Therapists Rising Incubator to create streamlined, high-impact courses that actually get completed.Whether you're still planning your first online program or wondering why students aren't finishing your existing course, this episode gives you practical tools to cut the bloat without losing depth.In this episode, I discuss:Why therapists tend to overdeliver in online courses (and the fears driving this behavior)The Golden Thread framework for creating a clear path from problem to transformationHow to use the Strategic Filter to ruthlessly cut anything that doesn't serve your studentsPractical benchmarks for course design (optimal video length, lessons per module, and PDF best practices)How to reconnect with your power instead of people-pleasing through excessive contentRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? I'd absolutely love to hear from you! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to build a focused, high-impact online program? Learn more about the Therapists Rising Incubator program hereFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more course creation tips and behind-the-scenes insights!Let's rise together and create online programs that transform lives without burning you out in the process!

Ever find yourself staring at a blank page, trying to name your online program and getting absolutely nowhere? You're not alone! In this mini-episode, I'm tackling one of the most common questions therapists ask when creating their first online program.In this episode, I break down why so many therapists struggle with naming their programs and introduce my proven CLEAR framework specifically designed for therapists looking to take their expertise online.Whether you're just starting to brainstorm your first online offering or you've been stuck in the naming phase for months, this episode will give you the practical framework and confidence to finally choose a name that attracts your ideal clients and communicates your value.In this episode, I discuss:Why program naming is particularly challenging for therapists (and the three common traps we fall into)The CLEAR framework: Client-Centered, Laser-Focused, Evokes Emotion, Actionable, and RealisticPractical ways to test your program name ideas with your target audienceWhat to do when you're stuck between multiple good options (and why perfectionism is your biggest enemy)Why "until death do you part" doesn't apply to program names—you can always change it later!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts Love this episode? I'd absolutely love to hear from you! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to build an online program that transforms lives? Learn more about the Therapist Rising Incubator program hereFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly and share your program name ideas with me!Let's rise together and create online programs that showcase your expertise, connect with your ideal clients, and make a bigger impact beyond the therapy room!

Ever find yourself escaping the burnout of 1:1 clinical work, only to accidentally build the exact same stressful environment online? Trust me, I've been there—done that—got the damn t-shirt.In this Unmasked Monthly Musing, I'm getting totally real with you about something NOBODY seems to be talking about: how we therapists often recreate the exact same painful patterns in our online businesses that we were desperately trying to escape from in our clinical practices.Whether you're burnt out in your practice, already dipping your toes into the online world, or just curious about what else is possible beyond the therapy room, this episode is your permission slip to recognize these sneaky patterns and break free from them once and for all.I'm sharing my own messy journey—as a neurodivergent therapist who thought freedom was on the other side of clinical work (spoiler alert: my brain had other plans!)—plus the practical steps I've used to create a business that actually feels good to run.In this episode, I discuss:Why we leave clinical work and the beautiful fantasy of online business that doesn't always match realityHow we unconsciously recreate our old stress patterns in shiny new packages (and the psychological reasons WHY this happens)The values conflicts that tear us apart when we don't recognize them (hello, freedom vs. contribution battle!)Practical, actionable steps to break these patterns and build a business that honors who you really areCreating an intentional business designed around your neurodivergence, values, and the life you actually want to liveRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? I'd absolutely love to hear from you! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to build a business that honors who you truly are? Learn more about the Therapist Rising Incubator program hereFollow me on Instagram for more behind-the-scenes insights and unfiltered reflectionsLet's rise together and create businesses that actually support the lives we want to live—not just recreate the same old stress in a new setting!

Are you struggling to price your online program with confidence? Do you second-guess yourself when setting price points, even though you KNOW your content delivers incredible transformation?In this value-packed episode, I'm diving deep into the psychology behind pricing your therapy programs. We're moving beyond "what to charge" into the more powerful territory of "WHY to charge it" — because understanding the true value of your expertise is the key to pricing with confidence.Building on last week's breakdown of what therapists are currently charging in Episode 176, this episode gives you practical frameworks to calculate your program's specific value. I share the exact formulas that have helped hundreds of therapists in our community price their programs at premium rates that reflect their true worth.In this episode, I share:The critical shift from cost-based to value-based pricing (and why this mindset change is essential for therapists)The Transformation Equation that quantifies your program's value based on pain level, urgency, market demand, and accessibilityHow to use the Premium Positioning Matrix to strategically place your program in high-value quadrantsWhy information alone has minimal value—and how to position your program as a transformation vehiclePractical steps to overcome the pricing paradox that keeps most therapists underchargingThis isn't just about making more money—it's about creating alignment between the value you provide and how you price it. When you charge what your program is truly worth, everyone wins: you receive fair compensation, and your clients invest at a level that drives their commitment and results.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Listen to part one of this Pricing conversation - Episode 176: Pricing Your Online Program: The Exact Numbers Therapists Are Charging in 2025Listen to Episode 118 on creating scholarship programs for your coursesFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly and DM me your favourite pricing framework!Let's rise together and price our programs based on the transformation we provide—not the hours we spend creating them!

Have you launched your online program, gained some traction, but now find yourself stuck in a frustrating plateau? You're not alone—welcome to what I call "The Messy Middle."In this raw, unfiltered episode, I'm breaking down the awkward growth phase that NO ONE in the online space wants to talk about. It's that frustrating gap between having a program that works and creating a truly scalable business. If you're working harder than ever but seeing diminishing returns, this episode is your roadmap out of the plateau.I pull back the curtain on my own messy middle experiences and share the exact framework that helped me (and hundreds of my students) push through to create sustainable, scalable success.In this episode, I share:Why the "Messy Middle" exists and the 3 undeniable signs you're stuck in itThe crucial shift from therapist/creator to CEO (and the simple "Decision Filter" that makes this transition easier)How to break free from energy-intensive hustle and build "Minimum Effective Systems" that scale without burning you outWhy DIY approaches become your biggest bottleneck (and how to identify exactly what type of support will move the needle)Real examples of therapists who've successfully navigated this phase (including specific before/after metrics)Actionable steps you can implement THIS WEEK to start breaking through your plateauThis isn't about working harder—it's about working differently. The strategies that got you to your first successful launch won't get you to consistent five-figure months. It's time to evolve your approach.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Follow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more scaling insights and behind-the-scenes moments!Let's rise together and create a business that scales without sacrificing your sanity or soul—one strategic shift at a time!

Pricing your online program shouldn't be a shot in the dark—and yet for so many therapists, it's the most anxiety-inducing part of the creation process.If you've ever stared at that empty price box wondering what the hell to charge for your expertise, this mini episode is for you! I'm breaking down the four core program types that therapists are creating right now and sharing the EXACT price ranges that are working in today's market.Whether you're creating your first mini program or preparing to launch a high-ticket mastermind, you'll walk away with concrete numbers based on real-world examples from therapists just like you—not theoretical frameworks or wishful thinking.In this mini episode, I share:The four core program types successful therapists are creating (and what to charge for each)Real-world examples of therapists who've successfully launched at each price pointThe three critical factors that determine where your program should fall within these rangesWhy starting smaller might be your fastest path to successA preview of next week's deep dive into value-based pricing frameworksThis is your permission slip to price your program confidently, based on what's actually working in our community right now.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Follow me on Instagram for more pricing insights and behind-the-scenes moments!Learn more about the Incubator program mentioned in this episodeLet's rise together and create the future of therapy—one confidently-priced program at a time!

As we head into 2025, I'm noticing something fascinating happening in our field - this quiet but powerful shift where therapists are finally starting to talk about the elephant in the room: spirituality. And honestly? It's about bloody time.I had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Tatiana da Silva, a registered psychologist in Sydney, OG member of our community, and the brilliant mind behind Integrated Wisdom. What makes this conversation so powerful is that Tatiana has done what many of us secretly wish we could - she's built a thriving practice and business around integrating spirituality and psychology in an evidence-based, ethical way.What blows my mind about Tatiana's journey is how she transformed from hiding her spiritual interests (seriously, she couldn't even tell ME about them at first!) to becoming a leading voice helping other therapists embrace this dimension of human experience. And the research backing this up? It's absolutely compelling.In this episode, we dive deep into:The surprising research showing how spirituality provides significant protection against depression, anxiety, and substance use issues (the numbers will shock you!)How the mental health field has artificially separated psychology from spirituality (and why this might be contributing to our clients' suffering)What spirituality actually IS (and why it's different from religion)The most common fears therapists have about incorporating spirituality (and how to ethically navigate them)Practical ways to start having these conversations with your clients tomorrowHow embracing your authentic interests can become your unique niche and business differentiatorThis conversation isn't just about spirituality - it's about having the courage to follow what lights you up professionally, even when it feels risky. Whether you identify as spiritual or not, Tatiana's journey offers a masterclass in turning your unique perspective into a thriving niche that attracts aligned clients and colleagues.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how: Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars. Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most about the episode! And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Download Tatiana's free guide: "20 Client Conversation Starters" for ethically incorporating spirituality into your practiceJoin the waitlist for "The Conscious Therapist" course opening in April here.Follow Tatiana on Instagram @integrated_wisdom for more insights on the science of spiritualityFollow me on Instagram for more behind-the-scenes moments and insights!Let's rise together and create the future of therapy—one bold step at a time.

Ever heard of tapping (EFT) and wondered if it's actually backed by science? Or maybe you've been curious about how therapists can integrate it into their work for better client outcomes (and to prevent burnout for themselves)?By popular demand, we're re-releasing this fan-favourite episode with the brilliant Dr. Peta Stapleton, clinical psychologist, researcher, and a global leader in Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT), aka tapping.EFT isn't just some woo-woo trend—it's a powerful, research-backed tool that's showing incredible results for issues like trauma, chronic pain, food cravings, burnout, and more. And in this episode, we dive into exactly why therapists need to be paying attention.What You'll Learn in This Episode:- The science behind EFT—how tapping works on a biological and neurological level- Why EFT is still considered “fringe” (and why that's finally changing!)- The research-backed benefits of EFT for trauma, stress, and even DNA changes- How therapists can use EFT to prevent burnout and compassion fatigue- The future of EFT—how it's being integrated into mainstream therapyIf you're even remotely curious about how tapping could transform the way you work with clients (and even support your own nervous system as a therapist), this is a must-listen episode!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help more therapists find this podcast and confidently explore new, evidence-based tools like EFT.Here's how:Click here and scroll to the bottomTap to rate with five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐Select "Write a Review" and tell me what you loved most!Also, if you haven't already, hit follow so you never miss an episode—more game-changing insights are coming your way!Links & Resources Mentioned in This Episode:- Dr. Peta Stapleton's Website – Learn more about EFT and her research- Training for Health Professionals – Want to integrate EFT into your practice? Check out Peta's professional training - The Incubator Waitlist – Ready to scale your impact with an online program? Get on the waitlist for my signature program

By Popular Demand: The Ethical Roadmap – 3 Must-Know Considerations for Therapists Creating Online ProgramsThinking about launching an online program but feeling overwhelmed by the ethical and legal considerations? You're not alone. As therapists, stepping beyond the therapy room means navigating new territory—but knowledge is power.In this fan-favourite episode, I'm breaking down three essential ethical and legal considerations every therapist needs to know when creating online programs. This isn't generic business advice—this is tailored specifically for therapists like you who want to scale their impact while staying aligned with ethical and professional guidelines.What You'll Learn in This Episode:- Why ethical and legal considerations are non-negotiable for therapists creating online programs- Key Consideration #1: Scope of practice and professional boundaries—how to stay in your lane while expanding your impact- Key Consideration #2: Confidentiality and data protection—keeping your clients (and yourself) legally covered- Key Consideration #3: Content and marketing ethics—how to ethically promote your online program without overstepping- How these considerations empower you to create an online program that's not just profitable and impactful—but also ethically sound and legally compliantWhen you understand these three pillars, you'll have the confidence to build an online program that truly serves your audience while keeping you protected.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help more therapists find this podcast and confidently build ethical online programs.

Let's talk about something that's been keeping me up at night. I keep seeing incredible therapists - with years of experience, unbelievable client success stories, and so much wisdom to share - completely stuck in the "someday" trap of creating their online program. And you know what fascinates me most? It's rarely about not knowing what to do. It's about not trusting what you already know.Here's what blows my mind: After helping thousands of therapists create online programs, I've discovered something crucial - choosing the right program idea is literally everything. Get this wrong, and nothing else matters. Get it right? That's when the magic happens. And the best part? You already have everything you need to make this decision - you just might not see it yet.In this special episode (which is actually the first training from our Online Program Blueprint Bootcamp!), I'm pulling back the curtain on exactly how to choose and validate your online program idea. No more second-guessing, no more half-finished projects collecting dust on your hard drive. We're getting straight to what actually works, backed by real success stories from our community of over 4,000 therapists.In this episode, we dive into:Why your therapy room experience is actually the perfect market research (and how to use it)The Impact Matrix - your new best friend for validating program ideasHow to finally choose ONE idea (even if you have 17 different ones right now)The four crucial elements every successful online program needsReal stories from therapists who've turned their expertise into thriving online programsPractical steps to move from idea to action (without overwhelming yourself)This episode is just the beginning - it's actually the first of FOUR intensive trainings in our Online Program Blueprint Bootcamp. Want to continue the journey and learn exactly how to structure your content, price your program, and get it into the world with confidence? Join us at therapistrising.com/blueprintRate, Review, & Subscribe to the Therapists Rising Podcast "Dr. Hayley truly understands the unique challenges therapists face!"

Look, let's talk about something that's been driving me crazy. I keep seeing brilliant therapists - with incredible expertise, amazing programs ready to go - completely stuck in fear. And you know what's fascinating? When we look at the psychology of what's actually happening here, it has nothing to do with strategy.Here's what blows my mind: strategy only accounts for 20% of your success in launching an online program. The other 80%? That's what we're diving into today, and trust me - this is going to change everything about how you approach putting yourself out there.In this episode, I'm getting really real about what's actually holding therapists back (and no, it's not your tech setup or your marketing plan). Drawing from both neuroscience and real stories from our community, I'm sharing exactly how to work with your nervous system, not against it. Because here's the truth - your clinical expertise isn't just relevant to building an online program, it's actually your secret weapon.In this episode, we dive into:Why strategy is only 20% of your success (and what actually moves the needle)Meet your new best friend: 'nerv-cited' - our community's approach to working with fearThe superpower you already have (hint: it's your clinical expertise!)How to make your vision bigger than your fearReal, honest stories from therapists who've been exactly where you arePractical ways to take action while honouring your clinical integrityRate, Review, & Subscribe to the Therapists Rising Podcast "Dr. Hayley truly understands the unique challenges therapists face!"

Ever wondered what really happens when you take your therapy expertise beyond the consulting room? Today I'm sitting down with three incredible therapists who've recently launched their first online programs to share the real, raw truth about transforming clinical skills into digital offerings that create change.Whether you're feeling stuck in content creation, questioning if your idea has value, or just curious about what's possible, this episode pulls back the curtain on the actual journey of therapist to course creator - complete with the struggles, victories, and unexpected discoveries along the way.Today, we discuss:How three different therapists navigated their transition from one-on-one work to online programsThe mindset shifts that transformed their confidence and capabilitiesWhy community support is crucial for success (and where to find it)The power of testing and refining your program with your first participantsWhat's next after your first successful launchIf you're ready to see what's possible when therapists embrace their expertise in new ways, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical insights to help you take that next step!Love This Episode? Let Me Know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Head to Apple Podcasts and tap to rate with five starsSelect "Write a Review" and tell me what resonated most with you!If you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button nowLinks mentioned in this episode:Connect with Dr. Nat Green: drnataliegreen.com.au or @drnatgreenVisit Nicolette at The Quiet Way: thequieterway.com or @thequieterway Learn more about Dr. Monique's program: drmoniquenesa.com or @nurtureme_fortherapistsReady to create your own online program? Get on the Incubator waitlist hereFollow me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly for more insights and behind-the-scenes momentsLet's rise together and create the future of therapy—one bold step at a time!

Ever caught yourself thinking "I know I could help more people with an online program, but how the hell do I actually create the content?" You're going to LOVE this episode.Today I'm pulling back the curtain on the framework that's helped hundreds of therapists turn their clinical expertise into amazing online programs. Spoiler alert: you already have everything you need - you just don't realize it yet!I'm sharing my Bridge to Desire Island Framework, which shows you exactly how your therapy skills (yep, the ones you use every single day) make you a natural at creating course content. Trust me, once you see this connection, you'll never doubt yourself again.In This Episode:Why your therapy skills are actually your secret superpower for creating online programsHow to turn your clinical expertise into engaging course content (without overcomplicating it!)The Bridge to Desire Island Framework - your roadmap from idea to actual contentA real-world example from a therapist who went from "stuck in content creation" to running successful programsLove This Episode? Let Me Know! If this episode gave you that "aha!" moment about your own expertise, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Every review helps more therapists discover how they can break free from the therapy room and create bigger impact.Here's how:Head to Apple Podcasts right hereGive us 5 stars (because you're amazing!)Tell me what clicked for you in this episodeWant More Support?The Incubator Waitlist: Ready to package your expertise into an online program? Get on the waitlist hereInstagram: Come hang out with me @dr.hayleykelly for more behind-the-scenes insights and practical tipsFinal Thought Here's the truth - you don't need to learn a whole new set of skills to create an amazing online program. You just need to see how powerful your existing expertise really is.Your wisdom and experience are too valuable to keep locked in the therapy room. Let's get it out there to help more people. Because when therapists rise, everyone rises.

Creating your first course as a therapist doesn't have to feel overwhelming or impossible. If you've been stuck in “Where do I even start?” mode—this episode is for you.In today's conversation, I'm breaking down my Incu-BETA Framework, a simple, ethical, and stress-free way to validate your course idea before you spend months creating content. No massive audience? No email list? No problem. I'll show you exactly how to test your idea, launch a small beta, and build your course based on real feedback—without overthinking every detail or diving headfirst into tech chaos.If you've been dreaming of scaling your impact, creating a sustainable income stream, and stepping beyond the therapy room, this episode will help you take that first step with confidence and clarity.In This Episode, You'll Learn:Why therapists struggle with launching courses (and the number one mistake to avoid)How to choose a course idea that aligns with your expertise and actually sellsThe simple three-step Incu-BETA Framework to test your idea before going all inHow to find five to ten beta students without an email list or a big social media followingWhy your course doesn't have to be perfect—it just needs to be testedRate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode gave you the clarity and motivation you've been searching for, I'd love for you to rate and review the podcast. Your feedback helps other therapists discover how to break free from the one-to-one therapy model and build thriving, scalable businesses.Here's how you can support the show:Go to Apple Podcasts here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five starsSelect “Write a Review” and share your biggest takeaway from this episodeDon't forget to hit the follow button so you never miss an episodeLinks & Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Join The Incubator Waitlist: Ready to launch your first online program the right way? Join the waitlist for The IncubatorFollow Me on Instagram: For more course creation tips, mindset shifts, and behind-the-scenes insights, connect with me at @dr.hayleykellyFinal ThoughtThe biggest mistake therapists make isn't launching a bad course—it's trying to create a perfect one before it's even tested. Your course doesn't need to be flawless to make an impact. It just needs to start.If you've been waiting for the right time, this is it. Your clients are already looking for solutions, and you have the expertise to help them. So let's rise together and take that bold first step.

Creating a course doesn't have to feel like a guessing game or a late-night panic Googling session. If you've been wondering, “Is this course idea even worth pursuing?” or “Where do I even start?”—this episode is for you.In today's conversation, I'm breaking down how therapists can use AI to validate their course ideas quickly and confidently. Whether you're stuck in overthinking mode, juggling too many ideas to count, or avoiding it altogether (hello, Netflix binge), AI can be the clarity-inducing superhero you didn't know you needed. Oh, and I'll also share the exact prompts you can use today to get unstuck and start moving forward.If you've been dreaming of diversifying your income, creating greater impact, and building a sustainable business beyond the therapy room, this episode will show you how to take that first step—with the power of AI on your side.In This Episode, You'll Learn:Why choosing the “right” course idea feels overwhelming—and how AI can help you get out of your own head.How to use AI to uncover your audience's biggest pain points in minutes (without the endless Googling).The exact prompts to brainstorm and refine your course ideas—because no one needs another mental squirrel chase.How to test demand for your ideas before you spend months creating content.Why AI is your creative assistant—not your replacement—and how it saves you time while keeping you in the driver's seat.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode gave you the clarity and tools you've been searching for, I'd love for you to rate and review the podcast! Seriously, your feedback helps other therapists discover how to break free from the therapy room and build impactful, scalable businesses.Here's how you can support the show:Go to Apple Podcasts here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select “Write a Review” and share your biggest takeaway from this episode.Don't forget to hit the follow button so you're the first to know about new episodes!Links Mentioned in This Episode:Join The Incubator Waitlist: Ready to create your first ethical and scalable online program? Join the waitlist for The Incubator here.Follow Me on Instagram: For more tips, strategies, and behind-the-scenes insights, connect with me at @dr.hayleykelly.Final ThoughtTaking that first step toward building your dream course doesn't have to be perfect—it just has to be intentional. Trust your expertise, use the tools we talked about today, and let AI do the heavy lifting to give you clarity and confidence.Because here's the truth: if your Google history looks like the diary of an overthinking entrepreneur, you're not alone—but it doesn't have to stay that way. Let's rise together, my friends, and create programs that make a lasting impact—one bold step at a time.

Creating your first online program as a therapist doesn't have to be overwhelming or confusing. If you've ever thought, “Where do I even start?” or “Am I ready for this?”—this episode is for you!In today's conversation, I'm unpacking the five most common mistakes therapists make when creating their first online program. From spending months creating content without validation to underpricing your course, these mistakes are not only avoidable but entirely fixable. Plus, I'll share actionable steps to help you streamline your process, overcome mindset blocks, and launch with confidence.If you've been dreaming about diversifying your income, creating a greater impact, and building a sustainable business beyond the therapy room, this episode will guide you to take intentional steps toward your goal.In This Episode, We Discuss:Why spending months creating content without validation delays your success—and what to do instead.How to get crystal clear on your messaging to connect with your ideal client.The power of simplicity: How to avoid overwhelming your clients (and yourself) by overloading your course.Why pricing your program too low can hurt your business and your clients' results.The truth about “waiting for the perfect time” to launch your program—and why starting messy is the best approach.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode gave you the clarity and motivation you've been searching for, I'd love for you to rate and review the podcast! Your feedback helps other therapists discover how to break free from the traditional therapy room and create scalable, impactful businesses.Here's how you can support the show:Go to Apple Podcasts, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select “Write a Review” and share what resonated most with you in this episode.Don't forget to hit the follow button so you're the first to know about new episodes!Links Mentioned in This Episode:Join the Blueprint Training Series: Ready to create your first ethical and scalable online program? Sign up for this free training here.Follow Me on Instagram: For more tips, strategies, and behind-the-scenes insights, connect with me at @dr.hayleykelly.Final ThoughtThe world needs your expertise, not your perfection. The clients you're meant to serve are waiting for you to show up, just as you are. Let's rise together and create programs that make a lasting impact—one bold step at a time!

Creating an online program as a therapist might seem daunting, but let me tell you—it's 100% doable, even if you're starting from scratch! If you've ever caught yourself thinking, “Am I really expert enough to do this?” I'm here to remind you: Yes, you absolutely are.In today's episode, I'm breaking down the biggest mindset traps that keep therapists stuck and showing you how to move past them. We'll uncover the sneaky ways imposter syndrome shows up, why perfection isn't necessary (spoiler alert: it never is), and the signs that prove you're more ready than you think to create your own online program.If you've been dreaming about creating a bigger impact and building a sustainable income beyond the therapy room, this episode will give you the clarity and confidence to finally take that first step. In This Episode, We Discuss:The 4 P's of imposter syndrome: perfectionism, procrastination, people-pleasing, and paralysis—and how to overcome them.Why it's so common for highly educated therapists to question their expertise.Clear signs that you're ready to create an online program—even if you're doubting yourself.How to shift your mindset from “Am I good enough?” to “How can I serve?”Why the world doesn't need a perfect expert—it needs YOU, just as you are.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode gave you that little nudge you've been waiting for, I'd be so grateful if you'd take a minute to rate and review the podcast! Your support helps more therapists like you discover how to rise beyond the traditional therapy room and create their dream businesses.Here's how to do it:Head to Apple Podcasts, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select “Write a Review” and tell me what you loved most about this episode!And don't forget to hit the follow button so you never miss an episode.Links Mentioned in This Episode:Join the Blueprint Training Series: Ready to create your ethical and scalable online program? Sign up for the free training here.Follow Me on Instagram: For more tips, strategies, and behind-the-scenes moments, find me at @dr.hayleykelly.Let me leave you with this: If you have the skills to help, why wouldn't you? The world doesn't need perfect experts—it needs people like you, showing up authentically and sharing what you know. Let's rise together!

Creating a thriving online program as a therapist might seem like a daunting task, but today's episode is proof that it's absolutely achievable—even if you're starting from scratch.Meet Tania Kalkidis, a seasoned clinical psychologist and psychotherapist who transformed her decades of expertise in psychodynamic psychotherapy into an online program that sold out in record time. Tania's journey isn't just inspiring—it's packed with actionable strategies and lessons to help you follow in her footsteps.If you've been dreaming about scaling your impact and creating a sustainable income stream beyond the therapy room, this episode is for you.We dive deep into Tania's story, exploring her passion for psychodynamic psychotherapy, attachment theory, and neuroscience, as well as the mindset shifts and strategic steps she took to bring her online program to life.This episode will leave you feeling empowered and ready to take action on your own journey toward creating scalable and impactful online programs.In This Episode, We Discuss:Tania's journey from private practice to launching a sold-out beta program in just weeks.The biggest challenges therapists face when transitioning to online programs (and how Tania overcame them).How attachment theory and neuroscience play a crucial role in creating transformational client relationships—and how Tania brings this expertise into her training.The practical tools and mindset shifts Tania used to tackle tech overwhelm and build a thriving online business.Why focusing on a clear niche and high-value offer is a game-changer for therapists.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf you loved this episode and feel inspired by Tania's success story, I'd be so grateful if you'd take a moment to rate and review the podcast! Your support helps us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the limitations of traditional practice and create their dream businesses.Here's how:Head to Apple Podcasts, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select “Write a Review” and let me know what you loved most about this episode!And don't forget to hit the follow button. There's so much more value-packed content coming your way—you won't want to miss it!Links Mentioned in This Episode:Join the Incubator Waitlist: Ready to create your ethical and scalable online program? Doors are opening soon—get on the waitlist here.Follow Tania Kalkidis: Find her on Instagram @taniakalkidis and Facebook at Deep Mind Psychodynamic Training.Take Tania's Free Attachment Quiz: Learn more about her programs and get insights on attachment styles at deepmindpt.com.Follow Me on Instagram: Stay inspired with tips, strategies, and behind-the-scenes moments @dr.hayleykelly.

Creating online programs can feel like a dream come true—scaling your impact, reaching more people, and building a thriving business. But let's face it: as therapists, we face unique challenges that most business coaches can't help us navigate. Enter the minefield of dual relationships.If you've ever wondered how to expand your reach ethically and legally while keeping boundaries rock solid, this episode is for you!Today, I'm breaking down the most important strategies to help you ethically manage dual relationships when creating online programs. We'll cover why dual relationships matter, the key ethical and legal challenges to look out for, and the practical tools you need to protect yourself and your clients.This isn't just about compliance—it's about creating programs that align with your values and ensure everyone involved feels safe, respected, and supported.In this episode, we discuss:What dual relationships are and why licensing boards like APA, AHPRA, and NASW take them so seriously.The risks of blurred boundaries, power dynamics, and confidentiality breaches in online programs—and how to address them.The legal steps every therapist should take when running online programs, including disclaimers, contracts, and setting up separate business entities.My top practical tips to screen participants, create clear agreements, and maintain professional boundaries in group settings.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode helped you feel more confident about managing dual relationships in your business, I'd love for you to rate and review the show! It's the best way to support the podcast and help other therapists learn to build ethical, scalable online programs.Just head to Apple Podcasts, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Be sure to let me know what you loved most about this episode!And if you haven't already, hit the follow button. Bonus episodes and practical tips are coming your way, and I don't want you to miss out!Links Mentioned in This Episode:Join the Incubator Waitlist: Ready to create your ethical and scalable online program? Doors open soon—get on the waitlist!Follow me on Instagram dr.hayleykelly

Well, my friends, buckle up because this episode is the wake-up call you didn't know you needed! If you've been feeling stuck, burned out, or like your therapy practice is running your life instead of the other way around, this one's for you.In today's value-packed episode, we're breaking down exactly what it takes to build a profitable therapy practice that supports your dream life—without working more hours, sacrificing your sanity, or burning out.We're taking a hard look at the traditional private practice model, why it's not designed for long-term sustainability, and how you can break free from the grind. From redefining your boundaries to exploring scalable offerings, this episode is packed with actionable steps to help you start 2025 on the right foot.Today, we dive into:Why the traditional private practice model leads to burnout—and how to fix it.The Lifestyle Audit: Your blueprint for designing a practice that aligns with your dream life.How to overcome the income ceiling by incorporating scalable offerings like courses, memberships, or workshops.The systems and boundaries you need to reclaim your time and energy.Thought-provoking questions to help you uncover limiting beliefs and start making bold changes in 2025.If you're ready to make this year the one where you take back control of your practice—and your life—this episode will give you the tools to make it happen.Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsFor the love of everything self-care, if you're enjoying the podcast, please share the love! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to ditch burnout and build practices that support their values and goals.Here's how:Tap here to rate with five stars (yes, right now—I'll wait!)Select "Write a Review" and share what resonated most with you.If you haven't already, hit that follow button so you never miss an episode—we've got some exciting content coming your way in 2025!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to create your own breakthrough in 2025? Learn more about the Incubator program hereShare your ONE insight from this episode with me on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly

Well, my friends, grab your tissues and your notebooks because this isn't your typical end-of-year reflection episode! If you're ready for some raw honesty about what it really takes to scale your impact as a therapist entrepreneur, this episode is going to be a game-changer for you!In this value-packed end-of-year episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on our incredible (and sometimes messy) growth journey of 2024, plus sharing the exact framework we used to plan for 2025. Spoiler alert: there were tears, breakthroughs, and some serious mic-drop moments!I'm sharing our real numbers (including the 400% student growth that made me cry), the complete shit fights that taught us everything, and the Mountain Climbing Method that's revolutionizing how we plan for the future. And don't worry - I'm giving you actionable steps to implement this framework in your own business.Today, we dive into:The Reality Check Framework that transformed our team retreatWhy your "Base Camp" assessment is crucial for massive growthThe breakthrough moment that changed everything about our systemsHow to pick your perfect "Summit" (and actually reach it)The common roadblocks that stop most therapists from scaling (and how to overcome them)If you're ready to make 2025 your breakthrough year, this episode will give you the exact framework you need to make it happen!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsFor the love of everything self-care, if you're enjoying the podcast, please share the love! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the traditional therapy model and create the impact and income they dream of.Here's how:Tap here to rate with five stars (I'll wait - yes, right now!)Select "Write a Review" and let me know what resonated mostAnd if you're not already part of our Therapists Rising community, hit that follow button - we've got some incredible episodes coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to create your own breakthrough in 2025? Learn more about the Incubator program hereShare your ONE insight from this episode with me on Instagram @dr.hayleykellyRemember - your journey to making a bigger impact starts with a single step. But you have to take it. Let's make 2025 the year you stop playing small and start creating the change you're meant to make in the world!

Holy moly, my friend - if you've got an incredible online program but the sales just aren't happening, this episode is going to be a game-changer for you!In this value-packed mini episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on the exact signs I look for when helping our students figure out why their programs aren't selling. Spoiler alert: it usually comes down to their niche!I'm sharing real examples from our community (including my own early struggles!) and breaking down the five telltale signs your niche needs work. And don't worry - I'm not just pointing out the problems. I'm giving you actionable steps to fix each one.Today, we dive into:The "Everyone Trap" and why it's killing your salesWhy talking about your amazing features isn't doing you any favoursThe sneaky problem with trying to help both Sally the CEO and Sarah the Stay-at-Home MomHow the fear of missing out is actually making you miss outThe clarity breakthrough that will make your offer irresistibleIf you're ready to stop throwing spaghetti at the wall and start attracting your perfect-fit clients, this episode is absolutely for you!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsFor the love of everything self-care, if you're enjoying the podcast, please share the love! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the traditional therapy model and create the impact and income they dream of.Here's how: Tap here to rate with five stars (I'll wait - yes, right now!) Select "Write a Review" and let me know what resonated most And if you're not already part of our Therapists Rising community, hit that follow button - we've got some incredible episodes coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Ready to get crystal clear on your niche? Come join us inside the IncubatorSend me a DM on Instagram @dr.hayleykelly - I'd love to know which sign resonated most with you!Remember - when you're trying to rise while carrying everyone's problems, you'll barely get off the ground. But when you know exactly who you're serving and how you're helping them? That's when you'll truly take flight!

As we head into 2025, the mental health field is evolving faster than ever before—and with these changes come incredible opportunities for growth, innovation, and sustainability in your practice.In this episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on Mental Health 3.0—the next big shift in how we approach therapy. We'll explore the key trends shaping the future of our field, why change is both necessary and urgent, and how you can adapt your practice to not only survive but thrive in this new era of mental health care.Whether you're feeling burnt out, frustrated with the limits of traditional 1:1 models, or excited about the possibilities of scalable care, this episode is for you. It's time to reimagine what's possible for your practice, your clients, and the future of therapy.Today, I discuss:Why the cracks in the mental health system are an opportunity, not a dead-endHow Mental Health 3.0 is reshaping care to be scalable, preventative, and accessiblePractical strategies to safeguard your practice, including leveraging technology, diversifying income streams, and advocating for equityThe mindset shifts you need to embrace change as a chance to growIf you're ready to take control of your future and step confidently into 2025, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you do just that!Click here to listen!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove this episode? Let me know! Your reviews help us reach more therapists who are ready to rise above the challenges and create the impactful practices they dream of.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, and tap to rate with five stars.Select “Write a Review” and tell me what you loved most about the episode!And if you're not already following the Therapists Rising Podcast, hit that follow button now—I've got more game-changing episodes (and some bonus surprises) coming your way!Links mentioned in this episode:Download your free guide: 2025 Therapy Trends—How to Futureproof Your PracticeReady to embrace Mental Health 3.0? Learn more about the Incubator program here.Follow me on Instagram for more insights, tips, and behind-the-scenes moments!Let's rise together and create the future of therapy—one bold step at a time.

What's holding you back from earning more as a therapist? Spoiler alert: It's not just the system - it's your mindset.As therapists, we've been conditioned to believe that financial sacrifice equals integrity. That earning more means losing touch with your ethics, your clients, or your values. But here's the truth: this belief is the #1 reason so many therapists hit an income ceiling - and stay there.In this episode, we're breaking down why this mindset is holding you back and, more importantly, how to bust through it. From shifting your money story to creating scalable income streams, we're diving into the tools and strategies you need to create a career that's both sustainable and impactful.In this episode, I'll cover:The #1 reason therapists hit an income ceiling—and why it's a mindset issue more than anything else.How the Reticular Activating System (RAS) works—and why your beliefs literally shape your reality.Why wealth creation isn't about greed, but about creating resources to expand your impact.How I used the “How can I make this possible?” mindset to launch an evergreen revenue stream that helps fund my vision.Practical strategies for busting through the ceiling, from tiered goal-setting (Good, Better, Audacious) to scalable income ideas.This episode is for you if:You're tired of feeling stuck in the 1:1 model but don't know how to move forward.You've been holding onto limiting beliefs about what's possible for your income and your career.You're ready to break through your ceiling and start building a business that supports your big vision.Click here to listen!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode resonated with you, I'd be so grateful if you could rate and review the show! Your feedback helps us reach more therapists ready to rise and create sustainable, impactful businesses.Here's how: Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Let me know what you loved most about this episode—your support means the world!And don't forget to hit follow so you never miss an episode. Big things are on the horizon, and you won't want to miss a moment.Links mentioned in this episode:Join the waitlist for our next Incubator cohortFollow me on Instagram

Feeling stuck trying to grow your team without breaking the bank? Here's how to hire smart, delegate with confidence, and build a thriving business you love.My friend, let's talk about a topic that so many therapists-turned-entrepreneurs face: how to hire and grow your team without feeling overwhelmed - or spending more than you can afford.Today, I'm joined by the incredible Paula Maidens, a hiring strategist and team expert who's spent over 14 years helping entrepreneurs like you build high-performing teams. Paula is here to share her practical and proven strategies for hiring the right people at the right time, delegating tasks effectively, and stepping confidently into your role as a leader.In this episode, we're diving deep into the art and strategy of building your dream team on a budget. Paula breaks down everything from when and how to hire your first team member to overcoming the fear of spending money on building a team. Plus, we tackle the mindset shifts you need to lead with clarity and confidence as your business grows.Here's what you'll learn in today's episode:Why hiring doesn't have to be expensive or stressful How to recognize when it's time to hire - and where to startPractical tips for hiring the right person, not just the cheapest option The secrets to successful delegation - and why it's the key to scaling How to overcome the fear of investing in a team Why strategic hiring sets the foundation for long-term successWhether you're just starting out or already thinking about growing your team, this episode is packed with insights to help you hire, delegate, and thrive with confidence.Click here to listen!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsLove the show? Your support means the world! If you enjoyed this episode, please consider rating and reviewing Therapists Rising Podcast. Your feedback helps us reach more therapists like you who are ready to rise above the traditional therapy model and create impactful, sustainable businesses.Here's how:Click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.”Let me know what you loved most about the episode!And don't forget to follow the podcast—there's so much bonus content on the way that you won't want to miss. Hit that follow button now!Links mentioned in this episode:Say hi to Paula on InstagramLearn more about Paula's Hiring Mastery™ Method hereCome hang out with me on InstagramReady to rise and build your dream business? Join our Incubator waitlist hereLet's keep rising, my friend—you've got this!

Feeling stuck under the weight of judgment and criticism? Here's how to keep showing up, stay focused on your mission, and turn negativity into momentum.My friend, let's have an honest heart-to-heart about something that stops so many therapists in their tracks: the fear of judgment and criticism. Whether it's in those infamous therapist Facebook groups (we've all been there!) or the dreaded client review, it can feel so hard to stay focused when negativity creeps in.But here's the thing: criticism isn't a sign that you're doing something wrong—it's proof that you're making waves. The louder the feedback, the bigger the impact you're having. So, instead of letting judgment hold you back, this episode is all about showing you how to use it as fuel to keep going.In this episode, I'll show you:Why criticism is inevitable when you're making a difference—and why that's a good thingHow to stay in your lane and focus on your unique strengths, even when comparison starts creeping inPractical tips for handling negativity, from checking in with your moral compass to embracing the "block and delete" philosophyWhy collaboration beats competition every time—and how lifting others up lifts you up tooHow to center yourself on your "Why" and keep showing up for the people who need you mostRemember: The world needs your voice, your vision, and your unique perspective. Let's rise above the noise and keep making waves that matter.Click here to listen!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts“I love Hayley and Therapists Rising.”

Messaging is the key to unlocking sales, connection, and impact for your online program. Are you ready to master it?Here's the deal: You could have the most life-changing online program in the world, but if your messaging isn't clear, your audience won't buy it. Messaging isn't just about words - it's about building a bridge between your dream clients and the transformation they're craving.In this episode, I'm breaking it all down for you. From understanding your ideal client to creating a message that stops people in their scroll, this is your roadmap to mastering your messaging and turning curiosity into commitment.Whether you're just starting out or you've launched before and felt like your message didn't quite land, this episode will give you the tools you need to create messaging that connects, resonates, and—most importantly—converts.In this episode, you'll hear:What messaging really is and why it's the foundation of a successful online programHow to identify and deeply understand your ideal client to speak directly to their needsThe biggest mistakes therapists make in their messaging—and simple ways to avoid themHow to speak to your audience's pain points and desires using clear, relatable languageActionable steps to refine your message so it builds trust and connects with your dream clientsWhy messaging is the missing link that makes marketing feel natural and easyThe time is NOW to create messaging that works for you!Every moment you spend wondering why your program isn't selling could be spent refining your messaging and connecting with the people who need your work. Your dream clients are out there—they're just waiting for you to say the right thing.Listen now and get ready to transform your messaging!Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple PodcastsIf this episode hit home for you, I'd be so grateful if you could rate and review the show! Your feedback helps me reach more therapists ready to turn their knowledge into impactful, profitable programs. Just click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and write a quick review. Thank you for supporting the show!Links mentioned in this episode:Follow me on Instagram for more tips and behind-the-scenes insights

Ever felt a whisper in your heart telling you that being a therapist doesn't feel like the perfect fit anymore? Or maybe you've wrestled with the guilt and shame of wanting to step away from 1:1 therapy work, wondering what that means for your purpose, your clients, and your identity.You're not alone, and this episode is for you.So many therapists reach a point where they feel the need for change, yet the weight of expectations, identity, and guilt can hold them back. In this candid conversation, I'm sharing insights to help you navigate this journey, redefine your purpose, and step into your next chapter with confidence and clarity.

Ever feel like Instagram is just not made for therapists? Like it's all trends, dances, and influencers, while you're here trying to connect with real people who need your help?You're not alone. So many therapists feel overwhelmed by Instagram - and that's why I invited Emily Masterson, creator coach and Meta insider, to join me for this episode. With over 8 years of experience helping small businesses grow, Emily knows exactly how therapists can use Instagram to build a community, attract dream clients, and fill their online programs without losing their sanity.This isn't about becoming an influencer. It's about showing up authentically, connecting with your audience, and making Instagram work for you—on your terms.

Ever felt a twinge of guilt or shame for wanting to earn more money in your practice? You're not alone. In this episode, we're tackling one of the most pervasive and limiting beliefs in the therapy world: the idea that wanting financial success is greedy or unethical.Join me as I break down why this narrative is not only outdated but actively holding therapists back from making the impact they're capable of. From reframing money as a tool for good to overcoming guilt and shame around earning, this episode is packed with empowering insights to help you embrace financial success without sacrificing your values.

Ever thought about adding a membership model to your business but aren't sure where to start or what it really takes? This episode dives deep into why memberships are a powerful way for therapists to create sustainable, recurring revenue — and the strategies to make them thrive. Join me as I unpack the steps to building a membership that offers continuous value and genuine community.I'll be pulling back the curtain on how our signature course, The Incubator, and our membership, Incubator Plus, really work behind the scenes to support therapists at every stage of their journey. You'll get an insider's look at how these programs create a seamless ecosystem where members can keep growing and scaling sustainably. If you've ever wondered about the impact of combining a course and a membership to offer deeper support for your clients, this episode is for you!

Ever feel like you're pouring all your energy into creating an online program, but you're still wondering if it's truly helping your students get the results they signed up for? In today's episode, we're diving into strategies that make a real difference in student experience and success. Because here's the thing: when your students thrive, so does your program.We'll talk about practical, human-centered ways to boost engagement, reduce drop-off, and help students feel connected, motivated, and ready to take action. This isn't just about delivering great content — it's about building an experience that empowers them to reach their goals with confidence and clarity.