Podcast appearances and mentions of jason english

Barns Courtney on Chaotic Acoustic Shows, Superfans, and the Real Tour EconomyCurious Goldfish host Jason English introduces guest Barns Courtney, speaking from a hotel in Ireland as he kicks off a three-week European tour after an unexpectedly chaotic...

Barrett Baber on Crittenden County, Songwriting Magic, the Grind in Nashville, and Keeping AI Out of LyricsSinger-songwriter Barrett Baber joins host Jason English on the Curious Goldfish podcast to discuss his 10-song album Crittenden County, inspired by his upbringing in Marion/West Memphis, Arkansas, near Memphis and the Mississippi River, and shaped by influences ranging from Memphis soul to '90s rock. Baber shares how songs like “Clown in a Barrel” reflect loving something that hurts—often mirroring his relationship with the music business—and why he keeps showing up despite financial pressure from streaming economics. He explains his independent release strategy of issuing “double” singles, describes the “holy” magic of co-writing and studio sessions, and details the origins of songs like “Hurt Talking” and “West of Memphis.” Baber also recounts surviving a 1999 commercial plane crash, compares American Idol and The Voice, and draws a firm line against using AI to write lyrics or melodies while using it only as a production exploration tool.00:00 Chasing the Dream01:06 Podcast Intro Setup03:27 March Madness Weekend05:03 Crittenden County Roots10:33 River Delta Inspiration13:35 Album Themes Grown Up16:27 Clown in a Barrel Story18:52 Showing Up Anyway24:11 Indie Release Strategy29:33 Songwriting Room Magic35:16 Writer Block Breakthrough35:51 West of Memphis Meaning38:09 Big Rock Production38:45 Songwriting Is Spiritual40:16 Can Anyone Write Songs42:08 Co Writing And Demos44:09 Fireworks Gets Cut47:30 Radio Pays Songwriters49:23 Idol Versus The Voice53:35 Plane Crash And Trauma56:04 Toughness And Showing Up59:53 AI Versus Human Art01:05:34 AI Expands Genres01:09:37 Curiosity And The Future01:13:35 Wrap Up And Farewell

Shelly Fairchild on Staying in the Queue, Recording at FAME, and Building an Independent CareerOn Curious Goldfish, host Jason English talks with Mississippi-born, Nashville-based singer-songwriter Shelly Fairchild about persevering through setbacks (“stay in the queue” and “buy the tree”), including losing a major label deal 20 years ago after being outed and forging an independent path since. Fairchild shares why it took a decade to make her new album, how a Kickstarter funded it, and why she recorded at FAME Studios in Muscle Shoals with producers Gary Nichols and Greg Beek, describing the studio's historic energy and an accompanying documentary shoot. She compares the new record's themes of home, loss, and identity to earlier albums, discusses songs like “End Up in Austin,” “Missin' Mississippi,” and “Struggle,” and reflects on musical theater roots, touring as a backing vocalist, and writing high-volume sync music for TV/film—including navigating AI demo tools and changing music economics.00:00 Stay in the Queue01:05 Podcast Welcome and Guest Intro01:51 Water Filter Cold Open03:34 Ten Years Between Albums05:16 Why Muscle Shoals and FAME10:26 The Magic of Muscle Shoals12:45 Themes and Storytelling Roots14:56 Finding Her Sound Over Time17:22 End Up in Austin Backstory20:00 More Songs and The Struggle23:11 Musical Theater Origins28:46 Business Lessons from Touring32:01 Stay in the Queue34:32 Whirlwind Tour Lessons35:39 Bus Driver Wakeup Call37:24 Two Decades in a Blur38:08 Making Money with Sync41:14 How Sync Writing Works44:44 AI and Demo Shortcuts47:52 Losing the Deal Coming Out51:00 Authenticity and Activism56:06 Curiosity and Distribution59:49 Tour Dates and Farewell

Jon Muq on Captive Audiences, Culture Shock in Austin, and Writing Joyful Songs | Curious Goldfish (30A Songwriters Fest)At the 30A Songwriters Festival, host Jason English interviews Ugandan-born, Austin-based musician Jon Muq about his unusual path into music and life in the U.S. Jon describes learning English through singing, first to homeless children in Uganda and later as a cruise-ship performer building a 250+ song repertoire, plus how “We Are the World” sparked his belief his voice could “fit in a tune.” He recounts arriving in Austin for a refugee fundraiser during SXSW, navigating community and dating culture differences, and developing his English fluency through music. Jon discusses his debut English album "Flying Away," including writing “Butterflies,” his moment-driven songwriting approach for a second album, his philosophy of posting content without chasing metrics, and launching the Afrobeats-focused label/event project Shake It Africa, while reflecting on stress, authenticity, and the future of the music industry amid new technology.00:00 Wild Austin First Date01:06 Podcast Intro And Guest Setup03:10 30A Festival Vibes05:15 Back To Uganda After Years07:02 Music As Language Training08:04 Singing For Street Kids09:25 We Are The World Spark11:48 Cruise Ship Bootcamp13:23 Landing In Austin By Chance16:03 Finding Community In Austin16:55 Community and Offense17:26 Dating Culture Shock19:12 Connection Versus Work19:46 Visa and First Gigs20:24 Flying Away Album21:45 Butterflies Backstory23:05 Writing in the Moment25:28 Artist Mindset and Ambition26:57 Happy Songs and Stress28:44 Content Pressure and Identity30:34 Shake It Africa Plans32:07 Curiosity and Future Tech34:01 Runaway Live Performance

Dan Navarro on Saying Yes: Writing Pat Benatar's “We Belong,” Voiceover Breakthroughs & Staying Curious at 72Songwriter and voice actor Dan Navarro joins host Jason English at the 30A Songwriters Festival to discuss his “say yes” philosophy and how it shaped his 40+ year career. Navarro recounts nearly refusing to write “We Belong” during a feud with Eric Lowen, then co-writing it in 90 minutes before it became a long-running Pat Benatar hit that now drives most of his catalog income. He explains how saying yes to a small jingle session launched decades of union voice and singing work, including Family Guy and films like Coco, Encanto, and Puss 'n Boots, and why touring remains the income he can control. Navarro reflects on positivity, relationships behind songs on Horizon Line, plans for a Spanish-language album, concerns about streaming economics, and his curiosity about what's next.00:00 Say Yes Turning Point00:48 Podcast Intro Dan Navarro02:34 30A Festival Vibes03:39 Touring Life After COVID04:28 Friends In The Round05:52 We Belong Bar Story06:57 Feud To Hit Song10:24 Royalties Mailbox Money12:40 Touring As Control13:37 Worst Career Decisions14:34 Advice Just Say Yes15:05 Voiceover Breakthrough16:13 Say Yes Voiceover Hustle16:40 Anonymity Versus Fame17:35 Soundalikes And Movie Rooms18:18 Staying Positive In Your 70s20:11 Horizon Line Breakup Songs22:20 She Dreams In Music CoWrite23:42 Spanish Album Next24:40 50 Years In The Game25:51 Streaming Royalties Reality27:44 Curiosity About Whats Next30:25 Live Performance Ordinary Days

Jimmy Fortune on Reinventing After the Statler Brothers, Faith, and Virginia Dreams | Curious GoldfishIn this Curious Goldfish episode, host Jason English interviews Country Music Hall of Famer Jimmy Fortune, reflecting on his early years playing Holiday Inn and Ramada Inn lounge circuits, including a defining moment when an older man urged him not to quit his dream. Fortune recounts joining the Statler Brothers in 1982, the life-changing opportunities that followed, and the challenge of starting over when the group retired in 2002. He discusses nerves and humility in his solo career, mentorship and advice about moving to Nashville, and his latest “American Dreamer” project—a book, CD, and live, no-overdub DVD created with writer Dave Clark to share a raw, chronological story of faith, forgiveness, and resilience through dark seasons and personal loss. The conversation also highlights Fortune's enduring connection to Virginia and the inspiration behind “Earl's Song, Virginia Dreams,” which he performs at the end.00:00 Holiday Inn Dream Advice01:13 Podcast Welcome and Guest Intro03:42 Meeting Jimmy Fortune04:46 Statler Brothers Breakthrough05:22 Retirement and Starting Over06:24 A Dream From Dad08:30 Three Career Eras12:12 Going Solo Reality Check14:03 Oak Ridge Boys Nerves16:15 Ramada Inn Circuit Lessons17:48 Never Quit Your Dream21:20 American Dreamer Project22:25 Writing the Book25:29 Live DVD Rough Edges27:38 Virginia Roots and Songs29:26 Virginia Longing30:04 Earl Song Origins30:46 Home Memories Everywhere31:49 Nashville Family33:10 Go To Nashville Advice33:38 Phil Vassar Story35:21 Mentoring The Next36:43 Purpose Over Money37:59 Family And Regrets39:17 God Things And Roots42:50 Forgiveness And Grace44:59 Grief And Hope49:03 Curious About The World53:13 Faith And Free Will54:52 Closing Thanks55:12 Virginia Dreams Performance

Morgan Myles on ‘Laced': Turning a Broken Engagement into an Album, Surviving Nashville, and Staying Authentic in the AI EraIn this Curious Goldfish episode hosted by Jason English, singer-songwriter Morgan Myles discusses her upcoming album Laced (releasing February 13 on Galentine's Day) and the personal upheaval that shaped it, including calling off her wedding, buying and then selling a house with her ex-fiancé, and touring through the chaos. She explains how the album title shifted from Language of Flowers to Laced, describing lace as delicate yet resilient, and shares how she used her 20-foot wedding veil—taken to Joshua Tree two weeks after the breakup—as the album cover. Morgan compares Laced to her 2020 album Therapy, outlines the two-year process of writing 80 songs in five months and narrowing them to 12 for vinyl with producer Ross Hogarth, and talks about performing while dealing with stress, compartmentalizing, faith, and negativity on social media. The conversation explores how fans can support artists in streaming, emphasizing that actively searching for an artist and listening to full songs signals algorithms, and addresses the flood of AI-generated music and its impact on songwriters, demo singers, session players, and industry economics. Morgan shares her view of authenticity, discusses songwriting themes like gaslighting and the power of words, and explains protecting vulnerability by staying close to trusted people. She talks about writing with Gary Nichols, what she learns from his perspective, and highlights tracks including “Love Is Lonesome” and “American Sky,” which she wrote to evoke bipartisan hope while addressing phone toxicity, food chemicals, veteran support, financial education, school tragedies, and media hate. Morgan reflects on her positive experience on The Voice as valuable exposure, her goals of continuing to write, tour, and build her fanbase, and ends by sharing what she's curious about now—especially history and learning how to meditate.00:00 From ‘Language of Flowers' to ‘Laced': the veil that became the album cover01:09 Welcome to Curious Goldfish + quick listener survey on streaming & AI02:24 Meet Morgan Myles: survival, breakup inspiration, and authenticity in the AI era03:38 Ice storm in Nashville: weather chaos and keeping the lights on05:28 Laced release week + comparing the new album to Therapy10:32 80 songs in 5 months: choosing the final tracklist with Ross Hogarth11:55 The symbolism of lace: engagement, heartbreak, and women's stories13:33 Performing through pain: staying joyful onstage and handling trolls16:59 How fans can help in the streaming era: algorithms, full listens, and search intent21:06 AI in music: inevitable shift, lost royalties, and protecting the soul of songs27:29 Breaking Down the Album: Passion, Despair & Song Themes28:56 Why Words Matter: Songwriting, Gaslighting & Relationship Red Flags30:29 Vulnerability vs Self-Protection (and Handling Online Judgment)33:03 Pet Peeves & “Icks”: Attention, Alone Time, and Basic Respect34:09 Writing with Gary Nichols: Process, Perspective & Musical Authenticity37:24 “Love Is Lonesome”: When Love Hurts and How to Nurture It39:54 “American Sky”: Hope, Division, and a Bipartisan Message45:56 Where She's Headed Next: Career Goals, The Voice, and Staying Grateful49:55 Final Question: What She's Most Curious About (History, Meditation & Life)52:37 Wrap-Up: Album Release, Thanks, and Where to Stream

Pete Muller on Curiosity, Music, and Living in the Present | Curious Goldfish PodcastIn this episode of Curious Goldfish, host Jason English dives into an engaging conversation with Pete Muller, a multifaceted talent who excels in quantitative finance, crossword puzzle creation, philanthropy, and music. Pete shares insights on living in the present, the dangers of nostalgia, and his journey from finance to becoming a singer-songwriter. They discuss Pete's new album 'One Last Dance', his love for yoga and surfing, and the importance of staying curious and excited about the future. Pete also reveals his efforts in saving the iconic Power Station studio and supporting independent music venues across America. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion about balancing professional success with personal passions.00:00 Introduction and the Importance of Present Excitement00:57 Welcome to Curious Goldfish01:46 Meet Pete Muller: A Multifaceted Talent05:10 Pete's Journey in Quantitative Finance09:06 Crossword Puzzles and Quantitative Finance13:34 The Art of Poker and Emotional Control15:25 Living in the Present: Yoga, Surfing, and Music21:21 Redefining Success and Personal Reflections21:43 The Antisocial Camp Experience22:56 Finding Joy in Small Moments23:37 The Journey Towards Spirituality24:47 Balancing Resources and Authenticity in Music27:13 The Challenge of Connecting with the Audience28:30 Creating Music and Personal Growth28:57 Future Plans and Goals as an Artist30:47 Recording at Peter Gabriel's Studio33:46 Supporting the Arts and Philanthropy34:48 Reviving the Iconic Power Station Studio38:46 Supporting Independent Music Venues40:41 The Magic of Live Music41:15 Closing Remarks and Holiday Wishes

Exploring Musical Journeys and New Beginnings with Lydia Luce | Curious Goldfish PodcastIn this episode of the Curious Goldfish Podcast, host Jason English sits down with the talented indie folk musician Lydia Luce. Lydia shares her journey from studying classical music in a conservatory to embracing a more relaxed and enjoyable indie folk career. She discusses her new album 'Mammoth,' detailing the inspiration behind each track. Lydia also opens up about her pregnancy and the balance between her music career and personal life. Don't miss this insightful conversation about music, creativity, and life's serendipitous moments.00:00 Introduction to Lydia Luce's Musical Journey01:09 Welcome to Curious Goldfish Podcast01:52 Americana Fest and New Beginnings03:05 Lydia's Personal and Professional Milestones03:26 Balancing Music and Motherhood04:40 The Joy of Indie Folk Music07:04 Songwriting Inspirations and Processes15:28 Exploring the New Album 'Mammoth'18:12 Discussing the Hike and Its Challenges18:58 Chronic Pain and Its Impact on Life20:35 Pregnancy and Pain Management22:56 Reflecting on Jesus Camp27:00 Making Amends and Personal Growth30:06 Curiosity About the Future32:20 Conclusion and Performance

Chasing Dreams in the Music Industry with Jason Hollis | Curious Goldfish PodcastIn this episode of the Curious Goldfish Podcast, host Jason English sits down with veteran music industry professional Jason Hollis to discuss the ins and outs of pursuing a career in music. With a rich history spanning 30 years, Jason Hollis offers invaluable insights on avoiding common mistakes, the importance of having a clear plan, and why the future belongs to artists who own their content. He also shares his journey from Nashville to Los Angeles and back, his efforts to preserve the iconic Douglas Corner, and his vision for the newly launched eighth room. Additionally, they touch upon his upcoming book 'So You Wanna Be a Rockstar,' which aims to empower the next generation of musicians. Don't miss this in-depth conversation filled with practical advice and inspiring stories.00:00 The Biggest Mistake in Parenting Timelines01:08 Introduction to Curious Goldfish Podcast01:59 Meet Jason Hollis: A Music Industry Veteran03:17 Jason's Journey: From Nashville to LA and Back07:22 Advice for Aspiring Musicians11:01 The Importance of Having a Plan11:44 Jason's New Book: So You Wanna Be a Rockstar14:23 The Thousand Fan Theory16:41 Building a Music Career Independently20:03 Jason's Early Career in LA23:06 The Viper Room and Music Legends25:46 Saving Douglas Corner in Nashville27:04 The Legacy of Douglas Corner29:17 The Birth of The Eighth Room29:45 Designing The Eighth Room31:35 Curating the Perfect Vibe40:13 The Music Industry's Evolution44:41 Investing in the Future of Music48:07 Curiosity and the Future of Music51:53 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Finding Your Voice: Tanner Lee Gray's Journey Through Music on Curious GoldfishIn this episode of the 'Curious Goldfish' podcast, hosted by Jason English, we delve into the life and musical journey of Tanner Lee Gray. Recognizable as a member of the rising band Certainly So, Tanner shares candid insights on balancing band life with his solo career, the influence of multiple 'homes' on his sound, and the sacrifices involved in being a full-time musician. Tanner opens up about his beginnings with various college bands, the grind of playing cover gigs along the Gulf Coast, and the eventual realization of pursuing his solo work seriously. We explore the inspirations behind his music, his experiences touring with Certainly So, and the unique dynamics of his personal relationships. Tanner also performs two of his songs, 'Time and Money' and 'I Feel Free,' offering listeners a taste of his solo artistry. Join us for an engaging conversation about perseverance, creativity, and the ever-evolving journey of a musician.00:00 Reflecting on Past Musical Endeavors00:42 Introduction to Curious Goldfish Podcast01:25 Meeting Tanner Lee Gray02:06 Tanner's Musical Journey and Influences03:20 Life in Nashville and Balancing Music03:45 Pursuing a Solo Career06:44 The Influence of Home on Music09:16 Balancing Side Jobs and Music12:35 College Days and Scholarship Decisions14:08 Reflecting on College Decisions14:33 Football Season Hopes and Realities16:05 Challenges of Being a Touring Musician19:56 Exploring the Gulf Coast22:41 Curiosity and Small Towns24:40 Musical Performances

Curious Conversations with Sammi Accola: Americana Music, Faith, and Healing Through SongwritingJoin host Jason English on Curious Goldfish as he interviews Nashville-based singer-songwriter Sammi Accola, known for her unique Americana sound with a gritty edge. Sammi discusses her journey of faith, the evolution of her music inspired by her work at Thistle Farms—a residential program for women survivors of trafficking and addiction—and her upcoming projects. Discover how her experiences have reshaped her songwriting, leading to more honest and cinematic creations. The episode highlights her openness to the gray areas of life, her views on the role of women in the music industry, and her dedication to social justice and faith. Plus, enjoy live performances of her songs 'Mona Lisa' and 'Turning The Tables.'00:00 Introduction to Faith and Life's Journey01:11 Welcome to Curious Goldfish02:02 Meet Sammi Accola: Nashville Singer-Songwriter02:14 Sammi's Work at Thistle Farms02:28 Sammi's Musical Evolution03:03 Diving into Sammi's Personal Life09:59 Sammi's Creative Process and Inspirations15:13 Exploring Faith in Modern Times17:21 Reflecting on Faith and Upbringing19:53 The Complexity of Christian Music21:43 Women in Christian Music24:28 The Journey of a Young Artist26:25 Music as Healing and Connection31:40 Live Performance: Mona Lisa36:40 Live Performance: Turning The Tables

Exploring the Intersection of Faith, Music, and Hope with John Francis O'MaraIn this episode of Curious Goldfish, host Jason English converses with John Francis O'Mara, an ordained Episcopalian priest and rock-and-roll enthusiast who has just released his new album, 'Forbidden Hymns.' Tune in to hear about John's fascinating journey from divinity school at Princeton University to working with John Carter Cash. They discuss the decade-long delay of his album release, the evolution of his lyrics, and his perspective on integrating the sacred with the secular. John shares heartfelt stories about collaboration and personal challenges, including his recovery journey and activism. Explore themes of human dignity, collective hope, and the power of music to transcend traditional boundaries.00:00 Introduction to Curious Goldfish01:30 Meet John Francis O'Mara02:42 The Story Behind Forbidden Hymns03:53 The Delay and Its Impact08:19 The Evolution of Song Meanings14:45 John's Unique Background15:38 Music and Faith Intertwined20:45 Breaking Down Sacred and Secular27:37 Growing Up in the Bible Belt27:59 Musical Influences and Bono28:50 Selective Memory in Faith29:25 Defining Musical Genre30:16 Outlaw in the Genre33:24 Faith and Sobriety37:32 Album Cover Design39:46 Songwriting Stories44:49 Modern Day Babylon48:10 Curiosity and Excitement for the Future

Lily Vakili on Resilience, Music, and Life's Journeys | Curious Goldfish PodcastIn this episode of the Curious Goldfish podcast, host Jason English sits down with musician Lily Vakili to explore themes of resilience, change, and the nature of existence. Vakili shares the inspiration behind her album 'Oceans of Kansas,' which was sparked by a visit to the Sternberg Museum in Western Kansas. She discusses the metaphor of unearthing and rediscovering hidden strength, especially following the disbanding of her band. Vakili opens up about her personal life, including the challenges and lessons learned from raising a son with autism. The interview concludes with discussions on her diverse background, her commitment to human rights, and the importance of kindness and community. The episode features live performances of her songs 'Okoboji' and 'April Fools.'00:00 Building Resilience Through Change00:48 Welcome to Curious Goldfish01:36 Introducing Lily Vakili and Her Album03:17 Touring and Inspirations08:37 Navigating Personal Challenges15:30 Assume Competence: A Lesson in Kindness19:14 Diverse Background and Human Rights19:42 Influence of Family and Personal Experiences21:49 The Essence of Human Rights24:16 The Power of Music24:58 Current Artistic Journey26:00 Reflections on the Album28:14 Orphan Songs and New Beginnings30:16 Curiosity and Connection34:21 Live Performance

The Band Loula on Faith, Friendship, and Music: An In-Depth ChatIn this episode of Curious Goldfish, host Jason English interviews Logan Simmons and Malachi Mills of The Band Loula. They discuss the band's origins, their unique sound called 'swamp grass,' and their North Georgia roots. The conversation delves into their friendship, faith journeys, and the future of their music. They also share behind-the-scenes stories from their recent tours and recording sessions. Tune in for an intimate and insightful conversation with this up-and-coming band!00:00 Introduction to Georgia Roots01:01 Welcome to Curious Goldfish Podcast01:43 Meet The Band Loula02:19 The Journey and Success of Loula02:42 In-Depth with Malachi and Logan03:25 First Time at Americana Fest04:38 Collaborations and Influences05:43 Recording at Ivy Manor13:40 Touring Challenges and Experiences18:09 Future Plans and Aspirations20:03 Personal Insights and Reflections24:23 Fashion and Friendship25:20 Faith and Personal Growth33:23 Marriage and Relationships36:48 Georgia Roots and Inspirations38:09 Curiosity and Future Aspirations03:41 Musical Performance

Creative Renaissance: Marcus Hummon's Artistic Journey & Emily Dickinson CollaborationIn this episode of the Curious Goldfish podcast, host Jason English engages in an enlightening conversation with Hall of Fame songwriter Marcus Hummon. Known for iconic country hits like 'Bless the Broken Road' and 'Cowboy Take Me Away,' Marcus delves deep into his latest project 'Songs for Emily,' where he sets the poetry of Emily Dickinson to music. Marcus discusses his creative process, his admiration for strong feminine figures like Emily Dickinson and his wife Becca, and his experiences writing both three-minute songs and full-scale operas and musicals. The conversation also touches on Marcus's collaborative works with artists like Mary Chapin Carpenter, Darrell Scott, and Sarah Evans, his fascination with transformative storytelling, and the inspirational journey behind his hit song 'Bless the Broken Road.' Tune in for an inspiring dive into the life and mind of a true musical Renaissance man.00:00 Introduction to Dickinson's Appeal01:03 Welcome to Curious Goldfish01:38 Meet Marcus Hummon: The Creative Powerhouse02:22 Marcus Hummon's Musical Journey02:36 The Magic of Songwriting03:10 Connections in the Music Industry03:46 Collaborations and Inspirations07:05 Emily Dickinson's Influence08:52 The Process of Setting Poetry to Music11:45 Exploring Emily Dickinson's Legacy25:17 Character Inspiration from High School25:35 Religious Influence in High School Sports26:37 Americana Fest and Lifetime Achievement Award26:58 Expanding the Dickinson Mojo29:46 The Process of Storytelling in Music33:48 The Magic of Songwriting39:40 The Journey of 'Bless the Broken Road'47:21 Curiosity and Artistic Exploration50:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Louie the Singer on Touring, New Album, and Overcoming Life's Challenges | Curious Goldfish PodcastJoin host Jason English on Curious Goldfish as he sits down with Louie the Singer to discuss his new album 'One for the Hometown', his preparations for a nationwide tour, and his journey through life's ups and downs. Louie talks openly about the struggles of balancing personal life with his career, the inspiration behind his emotional songs, and his deep connection with his fans. Discover the impactful stories behind his music, his experiences growing up in Fort Worth, Texas, and how he navigates the complexities of being a Mexican American artist in the country music scene.00:00 Introduction to Curious Goldfish Podcast00:41 Interview with Louie: New Album and Tour02:03 The Emotional Journey Behind 'If I Die Tomorrow'04:16 Louie's Artistic Process and Authenticity06:34 Growing Up in Fort Worth13:40 Challenges and Identity in the Music Industry19:28 Message of Hope and Resilience21:06 Reflecting on 2018: A Year of Loss and Guilt22:24 Father-Son Bond: Lessons and Memories23:20 Parenting Challenges and Personal Growth23:52 Coping with Loss and Finding Faith25:59 Prison Life and Musical Aspirations27:33 Post-Prison Life: Coping Mechanisms and Family30:30 Preparing for the Biggest Tour Yet32:38 Future Aspirations and Overcoming Challenges39:01 Curiosity and Fatherhood: Balancing Career and Family41:05 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Tony Dekker of Great Lake Swimmers Talks New Album, Songwriting, and Life on Tour | Curious GoldfishIn this episode of Curious Goldfish, host Jason English sits down with Tony Dekker of Great Lake Swimmers to discuss the band's ninth album, Caught Light. Tony shares insights into the instinctive songwriting process, the unique recording environment of a converted farmhouse, and the challenges of touring post-pandemic. He reflects on the band's endurance over two decades and the impact of family life on his music. The conversation also touches on the themes of loneliness, the importance of community, and how the recording location influences the artistic output. Tune in for an in-depth look at the creativity and resilience of a seasoned musician.00:00 Introduction to Songwriting Instincts00:55 Welcome to Curious Goldfish01:36 Meet Tony Dekker of Great Lake Swimmers01:40 Discussing the New Album 'Caught Light'02:00 Challenges Faced by the Band02:22 Tony Dekker Reflects on Longevity02:37 Interview Begins: Tony Dekker's Journey03:29 Touring and Feedback on 'Caught Light'05:13 Songwriting Process and Themes07:40 Impact of Politics and Permitting on Touring12:28 Recording in Unique Locations19:37 Themes of Loneliness and Connection21:19 Pandemic's Impact on the Band24:02 Connecting with Fans Post-Pandemic28:50 Curiosity and Parenthood31:31 Conclusion and Future Outlook

A Conversation with Americana Legend Webb Wilder | Curious Goldfish PodcastJoin host Jason English on the Curious Goldfish Podcast as he sits down with Americana music icon Webb Wilder during Americana Fest in Nashville, 2025. In this engaging episode, Webb opens up about his extensive career, reflections on aging, his journey with sobriety, and the importance of gratitude. They also delve into his latest album, 'Hillbilly Speedball,' and discuss the industry's changing landscape. Tune in for an inspiring and insightful conversation with one of Nashville's enduring music legends.00:00 Reflecting on Life and Mortality01:10 Introduction to Curious Goldfish Podcast02:46 Interview with Webb Wilder Begins03:04 Americana Fest and Career Highlights06:01 WMOT Roots Radio and The List Show07:52 Public Media Challenges08:46 New Music and Personal Reflections16:30 Farewell With Four: Songs for the Final Goodbye20:28 Southern Roots and Elvis Influence20:45 Early Movie Experiences and Musical Inspirations21:56 Tom Petty and Rock 'n' Roll Spirituality23:51 The Persona of Webb Wilder26:15 Sobriety and Personal Growth28:57 Reflections on Relationships and Love32:16 Hillbilly Speedball and Musical Journey37:57 Curiosity and Life Reflections

It's Fandemonium! This week Dana, Zaron, and Jason respond to listener emails. They tell their Very Special origin stories, pick their favorite episodes, cast the movie version of the podcast, and preview the exciting stories coming this winter. Happy Thanksgiving! Happy Thanksgiving Friday! And you can always reach us at veryspecialepisodes@gmail.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's Fandemonium! This week Dana, Zaron, and Jason respond to listener emails. They tell their Very Special origin stories, pick their favorite episodes, cast the movie version of the podcast, and preview the exciting stories coming this winter. Happy Thanksgiving! Happy Thanksgiving Friday! And you can always reach us at veryspecialepisodes@gmail.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's Fandemonium! This week Dana, Zaron, and Jason respond to listener emails. They tell their Very Special origin stories, pick their favorite episodes, cast the movie version of the podcast, and preview the exciting stories coming this winter. Happy Thanksgiving! Happy Thanksgiving Friday! And you can always reach us at veryspecialepisodes@gmail.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

An Unfiltered Conversation with Cyrena Wages | Curious Goldfish PodcastIn this episode of Curious Goldfish, host Jason English reconnects with singer-songwriter Cyrena Wages, the pride of Memphis, Tennessee. They discuss Cyrena's journey in the music industry, her evolving confidence, and her latest news, including an upcoming album and her engagement. Cyrena shares her experiences of overcoming challenges, her deep connection to both Nashville and Memphis, and the personal growth that has shaped her music career. Tune in for an in-depth look at the life and artistry of Cyrena Wages, filled with heartfelt moments and inspiring insights.00:00 Introduction and Self-Confidence00:42 Welcome to Curious Goldfish01:24 Reintroducing Cyrena Wages01:54 Cyrena's Journey and Growth02:19 New Album and Engagement02:42 First Interview Reflection01:28 Starting the Conversation06:59 Memphis and Nashville Connection11:51 Vanity Project and Feedback17:54 New Album Announcement18:10 The Meaning Behind 'Miss Melancholia'18:27 Creative Process and Collaborations20:23 Future Plans and Singles Release23:16 Personal Life and Engagement24:17 Reflections on Relationships and Personal Growth29:31 Curiosity and Human Experience31:45 Podcast Host's Curiosity and Conclusion

Chasing Greatness with Matt Rogers: Songwriting, Veteran Advocacy, and LoveIn this heartfelt episode of Curious Goldfish, host Jason English sits down with talented songwriter Matt Rogers. They dive deep into the art of songwriting and discuss the inspirations behind some of Matt's compelling tracks such as 'Camouflage,' which addresses the hidden epidemic of veteran suicide, 'You Are My Hallelujah,' and 'White Trash Royalty.' Matt shares his journey from working in the medical field to pursuing music in Nashville, his personal life, and his upcoming marriage. They discuss the challenges of dating in the music industry and how his fiancée Megan has been a rock in his life. Listen to Matt perform 'Camouflage' and get a glimpse into the world of a dedicated artist chasing greatness by staying true to himself. ( @mattrogerscountry  )00:00 Introduction and Philosophy of Songwriting00:58 Welcome to Curious Goldfish01:36 Meet Matt Rogers03:00 Matt's Journey to Nashville04:11 The Songwriting Process05:15 Deep Topics in Country Music06:40 Life in Georgia and Musical Influences08:10 The Therapeutic Power of Songwriting12:06 The Story Behind 'Camouflage'14:47 Exploring Matt's Other Songs19:33 Exploring Songwriting Inspirations20:44 Target Audience and Songwriting Approach22:00 Challenges and Realities of the Music Industry24:54 The Magic of Live Performances27:37 Personal Life and Engagement Story31:46 Curiosity and Future Aspirations33:15 Musical Performance: 'Camouflage'

Curious Goldfish with Jason English: A Conversation with Gina VenierIn this episode of Curious Goldfish, host Jason English chats with singer-songwriter Gina Venier. They discuss her journey from Midwest roots to Nashville, her love for baseball, and her memorable national anthem performance at Wrigley Field. Gina opens up about her American Idol experience, the challenges of being true to oneself, and her philosophy on learning and growth. The conversation highlights the importance of authenticity, curiosity, and community in both life and music. Stick around to hear Gina perform her emotional and personal song, 'Nora Jane.'00:00 Embracing Growth and Learning00:55 Introduction to Curious Goldfish Podcast01:38 Meet Gina Venier: A Musical Journey04:11 Gina's Love for Baseball05:46 Performing the National Anthem at Wrigley Field12:13 The Power of Connections19:46 Midwestern Roots and Family Values22:38 Navigating Identity and Faith27:40 Reflecting on American Idol Experience36:23 Reflecting on the American Idol Experience37:35 The Pressure to Exploit Personal Stories40:23 Navigating the Music Industry45:18 The Importance of Authentic Connections49:29 Curiosity and Growth in Life and Music52:51 The Power of Live Music and Personal Connections55:28 Closing Thoughts and Future Aspirations01:09:39 Performing 'Nora Jane' Live

Exploring the Heart of Country Music with Ketch Secor | Curious Goldfish PodcastJoin Jason English on the Curious Goldfish Podcast as he sits down with Ketch Secor, the voice and fiddle behind Old Crow Medicine Show. In this episode, they delve into the transformative power of music, Ketch's solo album 'Story the Crow Told Me,' and his role as a steward of country music heritage. They also touch on Ketch's experiences with iconic figures like Marty Stuart and Darius Rucker, and discuss the cultural significance of trains, geography, and Nashville's evolution. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to his work, this conversation promises to engage and inspire.00:00 The Power of Music01:14 Introduction to Curious Goldfish02:00 Interview with Ketch Secor Begins04:06 Railroad Revival Tour Memories04:53 The Magic of Trains and Music11:34 Wagon Wheel and Darius Rucker17:05 Curiosity and Wanderlust20:28 Nashville's Musical Legacy25:36 Ken Burns' Country Music Documentary26:57 Reflecting on Ken Burns' Influence27:34 The Impact of Public Television29:10 Personal Struggles and Triumphs30:31 A New Chapter in Life31:54 Behind the Scenes of the Documentary37:03 The Making of 'The Crow Told Me'39:35 Musical Inspirations and Collaborations40:48 Exploring Regional Differences45:27 The Legacy of Music and Mentorship46:46 The Journey of a Lifetime49:39 Connecting with People Through Music51:20 The Trickster's Wisdom

Exploring Music and Authenticity with Shayfer James | Curious Goldfish PodcastJoin host Jason English on the Curious Goldfish Podcast as he dives deep into a conversation with musician Shayfer James. Calling in from Calgary, Shayfer shares insights about his new album, his approach to touring, and his dedicated fan base. They discuss the challenges of balancing performing and the business side of music, as well as Shayfer's strategies for maintaining authenticity on social media. The episode also delves into themes of hope, love, and positivity in his music, despite the dark times we're living in. Shayfer also recounts his creative process during a secluded month in Canada's frozen coast and the inspirations behind some of his new songs. Don't miss this heartfelt discussion where music meets raw human experience.00:00 Introduction to Curious Goldfish00:40 Meet Shayfer James00:46 Touring and Promoting the New Album01:56 The Challenges of Social Media03:09 Balancing Art and Business04:29 Staying Authentic in Dark Times06:47 Connecting with Fans on Tour08:15 Curiosity and Creativity11:02 The Making of the New Album14:58 The Frozen Coast Experience19:40 Songwriting Insights24:12 Themes of the New Album29:16 The Moral and Artistic Journey33:21 Conclusion and Farewell

Caitlin Cannon on "Slut Energy," Her 'Love Addict' Album, and Songwriting in PrisonsDive deep with Americana artist Caitlin Cannon as she joins Jason English for a raw and unfiltered conversation. Caitlin opens up about her provocative appearance on the Kill Tony show, the "slut energy" she brings to her music, and navigating the industry in her forties. She discusses the inspiration behind her powerful new album, "Love Addict," exploring themes of loneliness, relationships, and self-discovery. Caitlin also shares the profound story behind her work with the Beyond Bars program, teaching songwriting to inmates, and how her brother's incarceration has shaped her art. This is a can't-miss episode about music, trauma, and radical honesty.Proposed Chapters:00:00 - Life on Tour & ADHD02:30 - That Kill Tony "Slut Energy" Moment06:30 - Trauma, Religion & the Americana Scene09:00 - Rebelling Against Industry Ageism13:30 - Inside the "Love Addict" Album15:15 - "You're Losing Me": Loneliness & Divorce22:15 - Relationship Status: "Married to the Music"28:15 - The Story Behind "Jesus Is My Lover"38:30 - The Terrifying Intimacy of Co-Writing47:00 - Beyond Bars: Teaching Songwriting in Prisons52:30 - "Waiting": A Song for Her Brother58:00 - What Caitlin Cannon is Most Curious About

In this episode, Host Jason English sits down with Virginia native and Nashville-based artist Levi Foster, a traditional country voice with an old soul. Levi shares his incredible journey from living in his van to signing a publishing deal and writing over 300 songs. He discusses the inspiration behind his debut album, "We Made Fire," the classic country vibes of his duet "Emerald Eyes," and how a spontaneous TikTok video of him singing pop songs as Johnny Cash unexpectedly launched his brand. In an exciting announcement, Levi reveals his dream collaboration—an upcoming full-length record produced by the legendary Shooter Jennings. This is a conversation about chasing a dream with conviction, the surprising paths to success, and staying curious through it all.Chapters:[00:00:00] - Welcome to Curious Goldfish[00:01:15] - Growing Up in the Shadow of Liberty University[00:02:45] - The "On a Whim" Move to Nashville[00:04:10] - Making a Pact: Living in a Van to Chase the Dream[00:04:45] - How a Publishing Deal Changed Everything[00:06:15] - The Songwriter's Grind: Writing Over 300 Songs[00:11:15] - Behind the New Album: "We Made Fire"[00:14:15] - The Story of "Emerald Eyes" with Gloria[00:17:05] - Reluctantly Embracing TikTok & Social Media[00:20:05] - What He Thinks of Brendan Abernathy's Viral Moment[00:23:30] - The Dream Collaboration: Recording with Shooter Jennings[00:25:20] - Be Curious: What Drives Levi Foster?

Celebrating 30 Years with Sister Hazel: An Interview with Drew CopelandJoin host Jason English on Curious Goldfish as he sits down with Drew Copeland from Sister Hazel. Drew shares anecdotes from the band's journey, including his memorable experience on 'The Price is Right,' their ongoing commitment to fans, and reflections on the band's longevity. They delve into the making of their new album 'Sand Sea and Crash Debris' and discuss the significance of lasting relationships and staying true to their music. Don't miss this heartfelt conversation packed with behind-the-scenes stories and insights!00:00 Introduction to Curious Goldfish Podcast00:41 Welcoming Drew and Initial Banter00:52 Sister Hazel's New Record and Busy Schedule01:35 Memories of The Price is Right03:39 Celebrating 30 Years of Sister Hazel07:33 Impact of 'All For You' and Band's Journey10:21 New Album: Sand Sea and Crash Debris11:55 Songwriting Insights and Personal Reflections19:10 Fan Engagement and Longevity24:02 Curiosity and Personal Reflections26:36 Conclusion and Farewell

(If you loved Rob Reiner + Soledad O'Brien's WHO KILLED JFK?, perhaps you'll enjoy this story from JFK's early years. Thanks for Rob Reiner for joining the Very Special Episodes podcast to help us tell it.) Eighty years ago this summer, a young John F. Kennedy took a job as a journalist for Hearst newspapers, filing dispatches in the final days of World War II. His columns capture the mood of a changing world. In today's Very Special Episode, Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer Fred Logevall and legendary director Rob Reiner join us to explore the forgotten summer that helped shape Kennedy's worldview. * For more Very Special Episodes, follow the show wherever you get your podcasts. Go see Spinal Tap II: The End Continues in theaters this September! Check out Fred Logevall's excellent book: JFK: Coming of Age in the American Century. Today's episode was written by Joe Pompeo. Very Special Episodes is hosted by Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English. Produced and edited by Josh Fisher, Jonathan Washington, and Mary Dooe. And thanks to our JFK voice actor, Tom Antonellis, for nailing another role. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Velvalee Dickinson ran a doll shop on Madison Avenue that catered to wealthy collectors. But in one of the strangest espionage cases of World War II, Dickinson's clients had no idea she was using correspondence about doll orders to transmit coded U.S. military intelligence to the Japanese. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Subscribe to VSE wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Velvalee Dickinson ran a doll shop on Madison Avenue that catered to wealthy collectors. But in one of the strangest espionage cases of World War II, Dickinson's clients had no idea she was using correspondence about doll orders to transmit coded U.S. military intelligence to the Japanese. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Subscribe to VSE wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On a cold day in 1973, a crowd gathered on a farm for one of history's strangest funerals. It was an elite group, including the Governor of Michigan, bank presidents, and local dignitaries. Even Walter Cronkite sent a correspondent. But they weren’t mourning anyone human. No, this was a pizza-based catastrophe. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Subscribe to VSE wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When he published The Great Gatsby 100 years ago this week, F. Scott Fitzgerald thought he'd written the Great American Novel. But it was a commercial flop. The year Fitzgerald died, he received a royalty check for a paltry seven copies. It would take an unlikely series of events to posthumously pluck a masterpiece from obscurity. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Subscribe to VSE wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When he published The Great Gatsby 100 years ago this week, F. Scott Fitzgerald thought he'd written the Great American Novel. But it was a commercial flop. The year Fitzgerald died, he received a royalty check for a paltry seven copies. It would take an unlikely series of events to posthumously pluck a masterpiece from obscurity. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Subscribe to VSE wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Gene Fleming and his pet goose Andy made headlines around the world. They brought out the best in the people of Hastings, Nebraska. But amid all this attention, Andy also brought out the worst. And three decades later, Andy's legacy is still reverberating around their hometown. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Subscribe to VSE wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On August 26, 1965, LBJ issued a surprise executive order eliminating marriage as grounds for deferment from the Vietnam draft. The unexpected announcement set off a panic across the country. But if you could somehow get married before midnight, you might be in the clear. The problem was, nearly every state required blood tests or a waiting period — every state, that is, except Nevada. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Subscribe to VSE wherever you get your podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Connect to John Gilroy on LinkedIn   https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-gilroy/ Want to listen to other episodes? www.Federaltechpodcast.com In spy movies, the federal government has unlimited funds for intelligence. In fact, it is always at its fingertips, no matter where it is located. Would it be so? In the real world, agencies have budgets that limit their ability to do everything from reducing fraud to ensuring the safety of a supply chain. One way to leverage the funds allocated for this task is to use Open-Source Intelligence or OSINT. During today's interview, Jason English from Babel Street shares his thoughts on how OSINT should be a part of the matrix where federal agencies can get practical intelligence. He starts by defining OSINT, which includes search engines, social media, public relations, news sources, web scraping, data analysis, and, yes, the dark web. This information is freely available to everyone, which gives it distinctive advantages. First, classified information can be costly to obtain. Rather than limiting your information sources to one area, OSINT will provide a much wider range of sources quickly. Further, transparency is becoming a more prominent theme in technology—by definition, one can review the origin of any piece of information to assure its veracity. When it comes to collecting, analyzing, and disseminating information, OSINT provides benefits that answer many of today's federal agency requirements.  

During its first 50 seasons, Saturday Night Live has welcomed legendary actors, superstar athletes, and notable politicians. But for one memorable night in 1977, Lorne Michaels turned the show over to an 80-year-old amateur. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Search 'Very Special Episodes' on your favorite podcast platform. * Hosted by Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason EnglishWritten by Jake RossenProduced by Josh FisherEditing and Sound Design by Chris ChildsMixing and Mastering by Chris ChildsOriginal Music by Elise McCoyShow Logo by Lucy QuintanillaExecutive Producer is Jason English Special thanks to Connie Crawford for sharing her story. And thanks to the great Bill Carter for stopping by! You can read more of his work at LateNighter, or check out his many classic books.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

During its first 50 seasons, Saturday Night Live has welcomed legendary actors, superstar athletes, and notable politicians. But for one memorable night in 1977, Lorne Michaels turned the show over to an 80-year-old amateur. * On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Search 'Very Special Episodes' on your favorite podcast platform. * Hosted by Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason EnglishWritten by Jake RossenProduced by Josh FisherEditing and Sound Design by Chris ChildsMixing and Mastering by Chris ChildsOriginal Music by Elise McCoyShow Logo by Lucy QuintanillaExecutive Producer is Jason English Special thanks to Connie Crawford for sharing her story. And thanks to the great Bill Carter for stopping by! You can read more of his work at LateNighter, or check out his many classic books.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Stuffed crust pizza. Grilled cheese burritos. How did so much cheese get into so many things? On today's episode, we peel back the curtain on the Dairy Industrial Complex — AKA Big Parma. * VERY SPECIAL CREDITS On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Today’s Episode Was Written and Hosted by Very Special Guest Stars Ben Bowlin and Alex French Producer is Josh Fisher Editing and Sound Design by Chris Childs Additional Editing by Mary Dooe Mixing and Mastering by Baheed Frazier Original Music by Elise McCoy Show Logo by Lucy Quintanilla Executive Producer is Jason English Thanks for listening! If you're enjoying Very Special Episodes, please leave us a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform. You can reach the show at veryspecialepisodes@gmail.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Stuffed crust pizza. Grilled cheese burritos. How did so much cheese get into so many things? On today's episode, we peel back the curtain on the Dairy Industrial Complex — AKA Big Parma. * VERY SPECIAL CREDITS On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Today’s Episode Was Written and Hosted by Very Special Guest Stars Ben Bowlin and Alex French Producer is Josh Fisher Editing and Sound Design by Chris Childs Additional Editing by Mary Dooe Mixing and Mastering by Baheed Frazier Original Music by Elise McCoy Show Logo by Lucy Quintanilla Executive Producer is Jason English Thanks for listening! If you're enjoying Very Special Episodes, please leave us a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform. You can reach the show at veryspecialepisodes@gmail.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Stuffed crust pizza. Grilled cheese burritos. How did so much cheese get into so many things? On today's episode, we peel back the curtain on the Dairy Industrial Complex — AKA Big Parma. * VERY SPECIAL CREDITS On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Today’s Episode Was Written and Hosted by Very Special Guest Stars Ben Bowlin and Alex French Producer is Josh Fisher Editing and Sound Design by Chris Childs Additional Editing by Mary Dooe Mixing and Mastering by Baheed Frazier Original Music by Elise McCoy Show Logo by Lucy Quintanilla Executive Producer is Jason English Thanks for listening! If you're enjoying Very Special Episodes, please leave us a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform. You can reach the show at veryspecialepisodes@gmail.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Right now thousands of people are on a mathematical treasure hunt from the comfort of their home offices. Our own Zaron Burnett is one of them. Here's how you can join him — and compete for $50,000. *On the Very Special Episodes podcast, we tell one incredible story each week. Follow us down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Hosted by Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, Jason EnglishWritten by Lucas ReillyProduced by Josh Fisher Editing and Sound Design by Emily MarinoffMixing and Mastering by Baheed FrazierResearch and Fact-Checking by Austin Thompson and Lucas ReillySpecial Thanks to Voice Actor Karl KeadleOriginal Music by Elise McCoyShow Logo by Lucy QuintanillaExecutive Producer is Jason English Thanks for listening! You don't owe us any favors. But if you enjoy the show and want to do us one anyway, could you head over to your favorite podcast platform(s) and leave us a rating? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Very Special Episodes is a new podcast hosted by Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English. Follow us down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. In 2011, after many delays, one of the most anticipated musicals in theater history finally opened on Broadway. The show was Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark. The powerhouse creative team included an up-and-coming playwright, a MacArthur Genius, and Bono. But its downfall would be long and treacherous. Here's the story of what went wrong — and why we're still pushing for a revival. Go follow Very Special Episodes! Drop in on the night someone poisoned the cast and crew of James Cameron's Titanic; unravel a 130-year-old mystery surrounding the Pledge of Allegiance; go inside the illicit black market moon rock trade. And more! * CREDITSHosted by Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason EnglishWritten by Joe KinosianProduced by Josh Fisher Editing and Sound Design by Chris ChildsAdditional Editing by Emily MarinoffMixing and Mastering by Baheed FrazierStory Editors are Josh Fisher and Marisa BrownResearch and Fact-Checking by Austin Thompson and Joe KinosianOriginal Music by Elise McCoyShow Logo by Lucy QuintanillaExecutive Producer is Jason English If you're enjoying the show, leave us a rating and review on your favorite podcast platforms. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In today's Episode, Dana, Zaron and Jason tackle a 130-year-old mystery. Although American schoolchildren still recite The Pledge every morning in nearly every classroom, we still aren't sure who actually wrote it. And all these years later, the long-accepted story is showing some cracks. * Very Special Episodes is a new podcast where we tell one incredible story each week. Follow us down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Hosted by Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, Jason EnglishWritten by Dave RoosProduced by Josh Fisher Editing and Sound Design by Jonathan WashingtonMixing and Mastering by Baheed FrazierStory Editor is Aaron EdwardsResearch and Fact-Checking by Austin Thompson and Dave RoosOriginal Music by Elise McCoyShow Logo by Lucy QuintanillaExecutive Producer is Jason EnglishSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Very Special Episodes, we tell one incredible story each week. Stranger-than-fiction tales about normal people in extraordinary situations. Stories that make you say, “this should be a movie.” Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Listen here on the iHeartRadio App. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Very Special Episodes, we tell one incredible story each week. Stranger-than-fiction tales about normal people in extraordinary situations. Stories that make you say, “this should be a movie.” Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Listen here or on the iHeartRadio app. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Very Special Episodes, we tell one incredible story each week. Stranger-than-fiction tales about normal people in extraordinary situations. Stories that make you say, “this should be a movie.” Follow Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English down a different rabbit hole every Wednesday. Listen here or on the iHeartRadio apple. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.