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En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE. Después, repasamos los protagonistas del día en Wall Street. Por últimos, hacemos el minuto de oro en mercados con Javier Cabrera, analista de mercados.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE. Después, repasamos los protagonistas del día en Wall Street. Por últimos, hacemos el minuto de oro en mercados con Antonio Castelo, analista de iBroker.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE. Después, repasamos los protagonistas del día en Wall Street. Por últimos, hacemos el minuto de oro en mercados con Antonio Castelo, analista de iBroker.

Washington y Kiev alcanzaron finalmente un acuerdo para la explotación de minerales, que coincidió con los 100 días del regreso de Donald Trump a la Casa Blanca. El texto del pacto lo describe como "una demostración tangible del apoyo de Estados Unidos a la seguridad y prosperidad de Ucrania". ¿Qué contempla y cómo impactará el curso de la guerra con Rusia? Es el tema de El Debate. ¿Este acuerdo acabará con los cambios de postura de Trump sobre la guerra? ¿Significa alguna garantía de seguridad para Kiev? ¿Será una presión para Rusia? Para analizar el tema, participan en El Debate dos invitados.- Marcelo Montes, doctor en Relaciones Internacionales y experto en política exterior rusa.- Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho Internacional y Derecho de la Unión Europea en la universidad Pontificia Comillas de Madrid.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE. Aprendemos a invertir en bolsa con el profesor de CML Bolsa, Carlos Lasvignes. Después, repasamos los protagonistas del día en Wall Street. Por últimos, atendemos al minuto de oro en mercados con David Fernández, socio director de CML BOLSA.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual. Después, repasamos los protagonistas del día en Wall Street. Terminamos analizando bolsa y mercados con Alexis Ortega, analista independiente.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual. Después, repasamos los protagonistas del día en Wall Street con Estefanía Muniz y Alba García. Además, aprenderemos a invertir en bolsa y futuros con Carlos Lasvignes y David Fernández, de CML Bolsa.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual. Después, repasamos también los protagonistas del día en Wall Street con Estefanía Muniz y Alba García. Además, aprenderemos a invertir en bolsa y futuros con Carlos Lasvignes y David Fernández, de CML Bolsa.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual. Después, repasamos también los protagonistas del día en Wall Street con Estefanía Muniz y Alba García. Además, aprenderemos a invertir en bolsa y futuros con Carlos Lasvignes y David Fernández, de CML Bolsa.

Seguimos comentando el discurso de Jerome Powell con Luis Garvía y Francisco Quintana. A continuación, escuchamos con el boletín de claves internacionales del día. Seguimos comentando geopolítica con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE. Después Estefanía Muniz nos explicará la llamada de hoy entre Trump y Zelensky y su contenido. Terminamos el programa de hoy analizando Wall Street y mercados con José Luis Herrera, analista independiente.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual. Después, repasamos también los protagonistas del día en Wall Street con Estefanía Muniz y Alba García. Terminamos la primera hora con Juan Ignacio Marrón, analista independiente y fundador de @inversoresinstitucionales

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual. Repasamos también los protagonistas del día en Wall Street con Estefanía Muniz y Alba García. Además, aprendemos a invertir en bolsa y futuros con Carlos Lasvignes, profesor de CML Bolsa, acompañado por Natalia Belea, profesora de CML Bolsa, y los exalumnos Luis Antero y Tomás Vaquero. Terminamos la primera hora con David Fernández, socio director de CML Bolsa.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual. A continuación, vemos los protagonistas de Wall Street de hoy. Terminamos la primera hora analizando la bolsa con Luis García Langa, Director de Mercados de SDC Analistas.

Riad, la capital de Arabia Saudita, fue el escenario elegido por el secretario de estado estadounidense Marco Rubio y por el canciller ruso, Serguei Lavrov, para retomar relaciones bilaterales y avanzar en una negociación por la paz en Ucrania. Un encuentro que el presidente ucraniano, Volodimir Zelenski, asegura que no le fue anunciado y tras el cual reiteró que no habrá paz si Ucrania no hace parte del proceso. En medio de los acercamientos de EE. UU. y Rusia, Europa ve cómo desde Washington llegan mensajes preocupantes: su voz parece que no tendrá demasiado peso en un proceso de negociación sobre la guerra y Bruselas deja claro que ellos han sido quienes más ayuda han aportado a Ucrania.Leer tambiénEstados Unidos elige reparar su relación con Moscú y abre la grieta con Europa¿Es posible llegar a un acuerdo sin contar con Ucrania y con Europa? Para analizar el tema, participan en El Debate dos invitados.- Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho Internacional y Derecho de la UE en la Universidad pontifica de Comillas en España.- Marcelo Montes, doctor en Relaciones Internacionales y experto en temas rusos.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual. A continuación, vemos los protagonistas de Wall Street de hoy. Terminamos la primera hora analizando bolsa y mercados con Manuel Pinto, analista de mercados.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica actual en Ucrania y el papel de Trump en ella. A continuación, vemos los protagonistas de Wall Street de hoy. Terminamos la primera hora aprendiendo a invertir en bolsa y futuros con David Fernández, socio director de CML Bolsa.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica. A continuación, vemos los protagonistas de Wall Street de hoy. Terminamos la primera hora analizando la bolsa con Marc Ribes, cofundador de Blackbird.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, hablando de la situación en Ucrania. A continuación, vemos los protagonistas de Wall Street de hoy. Terminamos la primera hora analizando bolsa y mercados con Marc Ribes, cofundador de Blackbird.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves estadounidenses más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación geopolítica. Seguimos revisando los protagonistas del día en Wall Street. Terminamos con Javier Barallat, asesor patrimonial de Caser Asesores Financieros, hablando de gestión del patrimonio.

Welcome to Multiverse News, Your source for Information about all your favorite fictional universes Reliable scooper Jeff Sneider claims Marvel Studios is actively looking for an actor to play T'Challa/The Black Panther, replacing the late Chadwick Boseman who passed away in 2020. According to Sneider, the studio's replacement of Boseman is only due to the fact that the MCU is working within the Multiverse currently. In related news, when asked during an interview about a dream role, Wicked star Cynthia Erivo said she would “really want to play Storm,” to “uncover how grand she is,”. Lastly, an OG villain is returning to the MCU, with Faran Tahir coming to the small screen to reprise the character of Raza, the leader of the so-called Ten Rings from 2008's Iron Man.  In some confirmed casting news, Rory McCann will replace the late Ray Stevenson as Baylan Skoll for Ahsoka season two. McCann is best known for playing The Hound in Game of Thrones, but his roster of work also includes Gladiator II, Hot Fuzz, Clash of the Titans, and more. Ahsoka is part of Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau's Mandoverse, and Filoni will return as showrunner for season two. Director Andy Muschietti let it be known why he thinks the 2023 DCEU movie The Flash, flopped. On Radio Tu's “La Baulera del Coso” show, Muschietti said the film didn't appeal to “all four quadrants” of moviegoers. The quadrants he's speaking of are men over 25, men under 25, women over 25, and women under 25. Muschietti also said anecdotally that in conversations with people he found they “just don't care about the Flash as a character…particularly the two female quadrants.” Colman Domingo has been cast in Edgar Wright's The Running Man and will star alongside Glen Powell, Josh Brolin, Karl Glusman, Katy O'Brian and Daniel Ezra. The film releases on November 7. Production on many Hollywood television and film projects has been suspended and events such as The Critic's Choice Awards, red carpet premieres, and The Academy Awards nominations have been postponed due to the LA area wildfires. Five-time WWE world champion Seth Rollins has confirmed he is not in upcoming MCU movie Captain America: Brave New World, saying his role was cut following extensive rewrites of the script and subsequent reshoots. Universal Pictures has updated the release date calendar for two animated properties. DreamWorks' Shrek 5 has been pushed back almost 6 months to December 23, 2026 and Minions 3 from Illumination is moving forward almost a year to take Shrek 5's original date of  July 1, 2026. Variety reported today that MCU screenwriting veteran Marcus McFeely originally turned the Russo Brothers down about writing for Secret Wars, even though he is the reason the directing duo is returning. However, the next day McFeely called the Russos back and said he was in after coming up with an idea for the film. Warner Brothers is bringing back The Puppy Bowl for its 21st installment this year, but will use the game to bolster its upcoming DCU film Superman. James Gunn will appear during The Puppy Bowl with his dog Ozu, who served as the inspiration for the superdog Krypto in the film. Gunn will introduce a sneak preview of Superman and deliver a “special message” to viewers. According to box office tracking service Quorum, Captain America: Brave New World will likely cross the $100 Million Dollar Mark in it's opening 4 day weekend Ludwig Göransson will compose the score for Christopher Nolan's upcoming adaptation of The Odyssey. Göransson's other film and TV credits include Creed, Black Panther, Atlanta, Tenet, and The Mandalorian. Succession creator Jesse Armstrong has reached an agreement with HBO to produce a feature film. The movie is based on an original idea of Armstrong's and will center on four friends who meet up in the midst of a global financial crisis. Production is currently fast-tracked to start later this year.

En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando distintos los aspectos geopolíticos más destacados. A continuación, repasamos los resultados de Wall Street de hoy. Además, analizaremos la bolsa con Marc Ribes, cofundador de Blackbird.

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En nuestra portada de hoy, nombramos las claves internacionales más importantes del día. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando distintos aspectos geopolíticos. A continuación, repasamos los resultados de Wall Street de hoy. Terminamos la primera hora analizando la bolsa con Marc Ribes, cofundador de Blackbird.

En nuestra portada de hoy, contaremos todas las claves a nivel internacional, centrándonos en el crispado escenario bélico actual. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE hablando sobre los movimientos geoestratégicos de Rusia. A continuación, repasamos los resultados de Wall Street de hoy. También aprenderemos a invertir en bolsa y futuros con Carlos Lasvignes y David Fernández, de CML Bolsa.

En nuestra portada de hoy, contaremos todas las claves a nivel internacional, centrándonos en el crispado escenario bélico actual. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, hablando sobre la situación en Corea. A continuación, repasamos los resultados de Wall Street de hoy. Para terminar la primera hora del programa de hoy, aprendemos a invertir en ETFs Smart Beta con Juan Ignacio Marrón, analista independiente y fundador de Inversores Institucionales.

En nuestra portada de hoy, contaremos todas las claves a nivel internacional, centrándonos en el alto al fuego entre Israel y Hezbolá. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando la situación actual. A continuación, repasamos los resultados de Wall Street de hoy. Además, aprenderemos a invertir en bolsa y futuros con Carlos Lasvignes y David Fernández, de CML Bolsa.

En nuestra portada de hoy, contaremos todas las claves a nivel internacional, hablando sobre le posible misil de Rusia, el plan de Elon Musk, y el nuevo escándalo de Estados Unidos. Seguimos con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE, analizando el panorama internacional. A continuación, repasamos la situación en Wall Street de hoy. Para terminar la primera hora de programa, observamos detenidamente la bolsa con Marc Ribes, cofundador de Blackbird.

En nuestra portada de hoy, hacemos una radiografía al panorama internacional: ¿cuándo podremos conocer el ganador de las elecciones de EE.UU.? lo vemos. Hablamos también de cómo Biden ha cerrado su legislatura como el segundo peor presidente de la historia para Wall Street, sólo por detrás de Bush hijo. Analizamos estas elecciones con Emiliano García Coso, profesor de Derecho internacional y Relaciones Internacionales de Comillas ICADE. Seguimos con nuestras claves de Wall Street de hoy. Terminamos la primera hora con Pepe Baynat, de Bolsas y Futuros, haciendo un análisis de la bolsa.

Dwieście trzydziesty dziewiąty odcinek z szybkiej serii ESPRESSO, w którym poznasz słówko COSO, czyli "to, tamto" po włosku.

On this episode we interview Katie Olsen who lives in Ridgecrest, California. On the edge of the Coso Range and a stone's throw away from Little Lake and Fossil Falls - prominent rock art locations in the Coso Range. She shares her feelings and background as a woman and female and mother with academic training in art history as she helps us to understand the rock art of the Cosos with a special emphasis on the animal humans that are patterned and solid bodied and expresses an explicit emphasis on the female side of the human experience.Transcripts For rough transcripts of this episode go to https://www.archpodnet.com/rockart/128Contact Dr. Alan Garfinkel avram1952@yahoo.com Dr. Alan Garfinkel's Website Support Dr. Garfinkel on PatreonArchPodNet APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com APN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnet APN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnet APN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnet Tee Public StoreAffiliates and Sponsors California Rock Art Foundation Motion

On this episode we interview Katie Olsen who lives in Ridgecrest, California. On the edge of the Coso Range and a stone's throw away from Little Lake and Fossil Falls - prominent rock art locations in the Coso Range. She shares her feelings and background as a woman and female and mother with academic training in art history as she helps us to understand the rock art of the Cosos with a special emphasis on the animal humans that are patterned and solid bodied and expresses an explicit emphasis on the female side of the human experience.Transcripts For rough transcripts of this episode go to https://www.archpodnet.com/rockart/128Contact Dr. Alan Garfinkel avram1952@yahoo.com Dr. Alan Garfinkel's Website Support Dr. Garfinkel on PatreonArchPodNet APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com APN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnet APN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnet APN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnet Tee Public StoreAffiliates and Sponsors California Rock Art Foundation Motion

Conversamos con Alegría Blan, propietaria del Bar Brasil y encargada de lanzar el Cohete Anunciador de San Lorenzo. Paseamos entre fotografías de las fiestas de otras décadas con el fotógrafo Víctor Ibáñez, escuchamos la música de Olga y los Ministriles e iniciamos un periplo por el Coso desde la pastelería Ascaso con Rafa Moyano.

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   This episode of RIMScast is proudly sponsored by Hillwood. Hillwood is a leading multinational real estate development company and part of the Perot family of companies. For more information, visit Hillwood.com.   Justin Smulison interviews four guests today, SORM Executive Director, Stephen Volbrecht, SORM Division Chief of Strategic Programs, James Cox, SORM Chairman of the Board of Directors, Gerald Ladner, Sr., and DFW RIMS Chapter Board Member Penni Chambers. The discussion covers the various roles of Stephen, James, and Gerald in SORMS, the purpose and development of SORMS over the years, and how SORMS manages risks for all the state of TEXAS. They also speak of the upcoming RIMS DFW 2024 Fall Conference on September 19th at the Irving Convention Center in Irving Texas and what they will present there.   Listen in for ERM wisdom and a preview of the RIMS DFW 2024 Fall Conference. Key Takeaways: [:01] About our sponsor, Hillwood. [:13] About this episode of RIMScast, coming to you from RIMS Headquarters in New York. Our guests are from the Texas State Office of Risk Management. [:37] First, let's talk about RIMS Virtual Workshops. The full calendar of virtual workshops is at RIMS.org/VirtualWorkshops. August 15th kicks off the three-part series, Leveraging Data and Analytics for Continuous Risk Management. Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops full calendar at RIMS.org/VirtualWorkshops. [1:01] Let's talk about prep courses for the RIMS-CRMP. The next virtual offering will be on August 7th and 8th, a RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep along with Utah Valley University. [1:13] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Prep course will be hosted along with George Mason University on December 3rd through 5th, 2024. Links to these courses can be found on the Certification Page of RIMS.org and in this episode's show notes. [1:28] Registration opened for the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 which will be held from October 6th through the 9th in Vancouver. Visit RIMSCanadaConference.ca to register. All RIMS regional conference information can be found on the Events page at RIMS.org. [1:47] We would like to extend a big “Thank You” to today's sponsor, Hillwood. Hillwood is a leading multinational real estate development company and part of the Perot family of companies. Hillwood's diverse portfolio includes industrial, logistics, corporate offices, retail, aviation, and multi-family housing developments. [2:05] Notably, Hillwood's Alliance Texas project has generated over 66,000 jobs and a $120 billion economic impact. Hillwood operates in 65 markets across North America and Europe, constantly seeking opportunities to create vibrant communities and deliver value to its partners. [2:23] Hillwood specializes in e-commerce industrial development, serving some of the world's largest retailer brands. Its residential communities division is dedicated to creating truly unique, master-plan communities. In 2023, Hillwood sold 2,141 homes in its communities and delivered nearly 1,500 lots to builders with more than 3,800 lots in the pipeline for 2025. [2:45] Hillwood is also leading the development team for Goldman Sachs's new facility in uptown Dallas. As a privately owned company, Hillwood prioritizes long-term sustainability: social, economic, and environmental. For more information, visit Hillwood.com. [3:05] Today we will be joined by leaders of the Texas State Office of Risk Management. They will participate in a panel discussion on September 19th at the DFW RIMS Annual Conference and Event. [3:18] They're a fabulous chapter and that event will be held at the Irving Convention Center in Irving, Texas. A link is in this episodes' show notes. Visit DWWRIMS.org for sponsorship opportunities and registration information. [3:31] Our guests today will discuss what it takes for the Texas State Office of Risk Management to function, how they prepared and reacted to Hurricane Beryl in July, and we'll talk ERM and how some of their military experiences have enabled them throughout their risk careers and at the Texas State Office of Risk Management (SORM). [3:55] SORM Executive Director, Stephen Volbrecht, Division Chief of Strategic Programs, James Cox, and Chairman of the Board of Directors, Gerald Ladner, Sr., welcome to RIMScast! [4:54] Stephen Volbrecht is the State Risk Manager for Texas and Executive Director of SORM. The office administers the Enterprise Risk Management Program, the Insurance Management Program, the self-insured Workers' Compensation Program, and the Continuity of Government Operations Program. Those are the four key missions of the Texas SORM. [5:58] Gerald Ladner, Sr. has been in the industry for 42 years and successfully navigated four hard markets. He has played roles with global and domestic U.S. insurance companies and is still engaged with the industry even though he's semi-retired. [6:29] Gerald has also served as a broker. He has insured prominent clients like the Coca-Cola Company, the City of Atlanta, Fulton County, and The Southern Companies. He quoted on the Boston Artery Tunnel Project, which capped the global reinsurance industry supply. Gerald's last assignment was as a Regional President at State Auto Insurance Company. [6:52] Gerald is involved today in independent board work, as well as serving his Alma Mater, and has served as Insurance Commissioner Appointee for the Texas Property and Casualty Guarantee Insurance Association, as well as the Texas Medical Liability Joint Underwriting Association. Gerald's turn as Chairman of the Board at SORM expires in 2027. [8:01] James Cox is the Division Chief of Strategic Programs at SORM. His job is to take the vision that Gerald has and the strategic view that Stephen has and make them applicable to the Texas state agencies. He does the daily work that supports their vision and mission. He has an insurance adjuster license, an agent license, a notary, and a risk manager license. [9:40] Stephen Volbrecht has been with SORM for more than 20 years in various roles. He joined in 2001, just before 9/11. The office was created in 1996 and went into operation in 1997. It was created to get workers' compensation costs under control for Texas state employees. [10:37] At that time, The Office of the Attorney General, Workers' Compensation Division, paid Workers' Compensation claims while the Department of Insurance, Division of Health and Safety, had the Texas Workers' Compensation Commission. The two agencies didn't communicate directly. [11:38] Texas combined the Attorney General's Workers' Compensation Division and the Department of Insurance's Workers' Compensation Commission and created the State Office of Risk Management. [11:49] Within two years, they had dropped Workers' Compensation costs by over $30 million, and not by denying claims or cutting corners. They paid claims more timely, stopped disputing claims, and prevented injuries from happening through risk management. [12:30] They continually put pressure on costs, even as medical inflation rises. Texas pays about $40 million a year for accidents and injuries. Because of success with Workers' Compensation, SORM now has three additional missions, the Enterprise Risk Management Program, the Insurance Management Program, and the Continuity of Government Operations Program. [13:42] SORM worked with the Federal government to design the Texas Continuity of Government Operations Program, helped the State Legislature adopt it, and then was tasked with implementing it. Gerald Ladner and James Cox use their industry knowledge to develop procedures and frameworks for the Insurance Management Program. [14:58] SORM is a fundamentally different agency than the office Stephen joined in 2001 because the scope of its mission set has expanded greatly over the 20-plus years. [15:32] SORM is a fairly large office compared to what other states might have. It's an office of specific subject matter experts over each of the domains it covers. It has a broad scope, including Enterprise Risk Management. [16:02] Gerald says SORM has a small board of five members responsible for strategic guidance, governance, innovation, leadership, risk management, stakeholder engagement, performance monitoring, and mentorship to the executive team. The board can decide quickly and anticipate the areas of risk they need to look at and how the organization will address them. [16:45] Justin takes a brief break and thanks Hillwood for sponsoring this episode. Hillwood operates in 65 markets across North America and Europe, constantly seeking opportunities to create vibrant communities and deliver value to partners. Visit Hillwood.com for more information and to seize those opportunities. [17:08] Justin also dives deeper into the RIMS DFW 2024 Fall Conference and Spa Event that will be held on September 19th and 20th in Irving Texas. Here to tell us a little bit more about it is an omnipresent force among DFW RIMS members; Penni Chambers, welcome back to RIMScast! [17:34] This episode is airing almost four years after Penni made her RIMScast debut. A lot has changed in four years! [18:20] Penni is Vice President of Risk Management at Hillwood. She is in charge of a team of two that maintains, procures, and does all things insurance for all of Hillwood and its enterprise companies, including land and cattle, oil and gas, and aviation. [18:52] Penni's role at RIMS has changed. She is serving the constituents of the RIMS chapters and members by being a proud board director. Penni is a lifelong member of DFW RIMS and a former president, serving a term in 2019. [19:30] Penni will moderate the kick-off session of the RIMS DFW 2024 Fall Conference on September 19th at the Irving Convention Center in Irving Texas. She will be moderating a panel with today's guests, from the Texas State Office of Risk Management, Stephen Volbracht, Gerald Ladner, and James Cox. There will be so much talent and knowledge on that panel! [20:09] Penni is so excited to moderate this panel. They will go through the who, what, when, where, and why for this panel. They will talk about governance and the legislative process, and how they manage and procure their liabilities and assets. Texas is huge. These gentlemen have a great responsibility. Penni is excited to get to interview them! [21:04] Besides this panel, attendees can also expect workshops, a risk managers' luncheon, and other speakers and presenters. On Friday, the 20th, they have a Spa Day. The Spa Day is one of the things that sets the DFW annual conference apart. Chill out a bit at the DFW RIMS Annual Conference. They go big on this deal! [22:04] Registration is open to members and non-members. Join the DFW RIMS for two days of fantastic events! Enticed? Go to DFWRIMS.org for more information and to register. [22:42] Penni says they are so excited to have everyone who is joining them for this event. This is going to be one of the best DFW RIMS Annual Conferences they have ever had! [22:52] Justin thanks Penni and looks forward to seeing her at the 2024 Fall Conference and Spa Event hosted by the DFW RIMS Chapter on September 19th and 20th! Visit DFWRIMS.org for more information. A link is in this episode's show notes. [23:10] Let's return to Justin's interview with the Texas State Office of Risk Management. [23:22] Gerald compares the challenges of his current position to those of the senior leadership roles he has held at insurance companies. It's an opportunity to educate and inform the public in terms of what they do to deal with the issues that emerge in a new area of risk. Gerald says that fortunately, he has been able to survive all the challenges of a very tough business. [24:02] The leadership at SORM focuses on retention, making sure that the team's service to the state is valued and that they have unique growth opportunities. SORM is essentially an insurance company with brokered services. [24:38] They have to make sure the products that are offered are current and forward-leaning, with the metrics in place for timely delivery of services for injured employees. Gerald speaks of how quickly SORM responded to the pandemic. [25:10] Stephen Volbrecht adds that it's important to understand that SORM is, at the foundation, a service organization. They exist to offer support to state agencies for their risk management concerns and objectives. SORM operates as a consultant, assessor, and advisor. SORM is not a regulatory agency, enforcement agency, or auditor. It's 100% about service. [27:13] Beryl was a Category 1 hurricane. James Cox says he joined SORM when Harvey was hitting the coast. That's where the preparedness started for Beryl. Before Beryl hit land, SORM was implementing the things they did post-Harvey. [28:05] Stephen speaks of resilience. You can't prevent an Act of God. He cites the 9/11 Commission. Their primary finding was that the most important failure was one of imagination. Leadership failed to appreciate the gravity of the threat. SORM has the approach never to underestimate what can happen. Uncertainty is at the basis of all risk. [29:41] Anticipate the worst-case scenario, prepare for that, and go from there. SORM ensures that every state entity under its jurisdiction has an updated and validated Continuity of Operations Plan. You can't prevent a disaster but you can mitigate it. There are lessons learned not just from Harvey but from the freeze events that hit Texas for three years running. [30:34] There are mitigation efforts that get put into place after we learn our lessons. Use after-action reports. What failed? Don't do that again. What succeeded? Do more of that! Texas put in dams to prevent inundation of water. They put in automated systems for dampers on air conditioning for the freeze events. [31:07] They went steps further in responding to situations based on risk management reviews and assessments to have product and service contracts and materials pre-staged for when these events happen so that you can bring up your services within hours, not weeks. That has a direct cost impact and an impact on the individuals that are being affected. [31:38] SORM has saved hundreds of millions of dollars in downtime and both direct and indirect expenses compared to where they found themselves as recently as Harvey. You can value the ROI in cost avoidance by comparing years without risk management controls and the years after risk management controls have been implemented. [32:56] James comments about Hurricane Beryl and after-action reports. An internet provider in the area went down, causing restaurants to only take cash. Agencies need the ability to switch from one carrier to another depending on if the carriers are operating. [34:04] Gerald says the board looks forward to the strategic plan that the executive director shares with them and they have the opportunity to acid-test it to make sure they are covering all the areas so they don't have a failure of the imagination. The board maintains the culture and listens to the employees. They invite employees to attend board meetings. They get a full house. [34:56] It shows the employees an alignment between the board and the leadership team. The board gives the executive performance review and the employees will hear areas of outstanding work and areas to focus on in the future. The board seeks to maintain that alignment. [35:32] It's RIMS plug time! Webinars! Servpro makes its RIMS Webinars debut on August 8th with Hurricane Preparedness in 2024: Innovations and Strategies to Protect Your Organization. On August 27th, Riskonnect returns to discuss How To Successfully Deploy AI in Risk Management. [35:57] On September 12th, Hub International returns to deliver the third part of their Ready for Tomorrow series, Pivot and Swerve Staying Agile During Shifting Market Dynamics.  More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/Webinars page. Go there to register. Webinar registration is complimentary for RIMS members! [36:20] We would like to express our thanks to Hillwood for sponsoring this episode of RIMScast. Hillwood is a leading multi-national real estate development company and part of the Perot family of companies. Their diverse portfolio includes industrial, logistics, corporate office, retail, aviation, and multi-family housing developments. [36:43] Hillwood operates in 65 markets across North America and Europe, constantly seeking opportunities to create vibrant communities and deliver value to partners. Seize those opportunities by visiting Hillwood.com. [36:59] Let's return to my interview with Gerald Ladner, Sr., Stephen Volbrecht, and James Cox of the Texas State Office of Risk Management. [37:28] James is a veteran of the U.S.A.F. Stephen is a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps. Justin thanks them for their service and asks how those experiences lend themselves to effective risk management. [38:02] James says no matter the specialization in the military, the military does very well operating in high- or higher-risk environments. They drill mission and safety in equal parts. The military mindset is understanding the chain of command, codes, and standards, and what you are basing your risk on. If you don't know the accepted way to do a thing, it is a risk nightmare. [38:49] James has found that using his military background, he knows where to look for how to treat a type of risk. That background transitions easily to risk management. [39:18] Gerald's father did three tours in Vietnam. His daughter went to West Point and was in Iraq. He understands the military mindset. It reflects the strengths we now find in the SORM organization with clear chains of command but also an environment where associates can come forward and bring their issues and opportunities. [40:18] Stephen and James are on the Technical Advisory Group (TAG) for ISO 31000. Stephen says the ISO 31000 framework and other ERM frameworks are essential for SORM. Risk management is about decision-making. The ISO model is that risk is always negative. What you are trying to do is avoid the bad things. [42:43] Stephen says the effect of uncertainty on objectives can be positive, negative, or neutral, whether it's an opportunity, an obstacle, or an obligation. That's where ISO 31000 comes in. For some time, Texas was the only state to adopt ISO 31000 as the state ERM standard. They did it through the utilization of guidelines written in collaboration with contributors. [43:29] They're called the Texas Enterprise Risk Management Guidelines. They don't tell people what to do but they give people a framework for how to answer questions of risk and make decisions. The meta-framework of the guidelines is called Governance, Risk, and Compliance (GRC), developed by OCEG, the Open Compliance and Ethics Group. [44:23] The meta-framework of GRC is that enterprise risk is about critical disciplines. That's the true enterprise risk model. It deals with governance and oversight, Gerald's role; and strategy and performance, James's role. Risks and decisions, compliance and ethics, security and continuity, audit and assurance; each of these domains has to be integrated into an ERM model. [45:00] SORM uses ISO 31000 as it is sufficient to their needs, but they still pull from other standards, such as COSO or SERM. [45:58] James says it's not necessarily the brand of framework you choose that is important. It's the vocabulary that you need to understand. SORM picked ISO 31000 and all the state agencies they work with took a course in it so they all had the same vocabulary. As long as everyone understands the standard, they can apply it. [46:44] The Texas Enterprise Risk Management Guidelines are known as the TERM-G or TERM Guidelines. [47:24] Gerald has a degree in psychology. It was a soft skill that was sought when he entered the workforce. There's a lot of stress on employees and it's important for the leadership team to have the right skill set to work with stressed employees and meet some of their needs. Gerald recalls Enron and the need to make hard choices about ethical behavior. [51:03] Gerald has had an extensive relationship with RIMS. He reminisces about attending RISKWORLD many times when he was with Zurich and cutting deals on the floor. We're in a world where change is increasing and the ability to get fresh, insightful information allows organizations like SORM to think through the next round of strategies to manage the risks. [52:23] Gerald knows the value in RIMS and looks forward to participating in this upcoming panel at DFW. [52:33] Gerald, Stephen, and James will be at the RIMS DFW Conference in September. Gerald will discuss the macro forces at work that have the potential to impact loss cost for SORM, and the state of the reinsurance market which is linked to SORM's ability to get property capacity. [53:06] Gerald says they want to talk about the interplay between risk managers and the boards they report to. Boards are taking a harder look at risk managers. Boards don't like surprises. It takes quality communication with the board. There also has to be strong orientation of new board members so they can act as proactive business partners as they face the challenges. [53:56] Also, the an ongoing discussion about broadening risk appetite and tolerance. The importance of parametric insurance, understanding how the market is behaving. Capacity is being contracted in Florida and the Gulf states and there have to be additional ways of dealing with risk. SORM provides good advice-based education on the proper coverages needed. [55:09] James will talk about how, when he was a new risk manager years ago and risks were new to him, through RIMS, he was connected with a host of individuals who had seen the same risks every day and were veterans of it. RIMS is a support system for a new risk manager. [55:22] He will speak of the tools RIMS provides, like the benchmark surveys, white papers, and articles, like the Hurricane Preparedness 2024 article, that came out 15 days before Beryl was approaching across the Gulf. SORMS is similar to an insurance carrier in Texas, except they want to look at your risk model, policies, and procedures. If there's a gap, then get insurance. [56:31] SORMS is not in it for profit but for protection and what's best for the state of Texas. [56:43] Stephen will talk about the relationships with RIMS over the years the relationships established and the outstanding resources that are available. He finds the compensation report a bit of a downer, though, personally, working for the State Government! [57:32] RIMS and associations like RIMS are essential for upholding high ethical standards and integrity in the profession and are also important for self-governance. When professionals agree on high standards of operation, that keeps the government out of your business. Stephen also talks about other aspects of SORM that people may not know about. [59:41] There are big risks on the horizon that could be talked about, like climate change, cybersecurity, artificial intelligence, political risk, civil unrest, inflationary pressures, global market volatility and alternative risk financing, and the pandemic moving into endemic with massive economic and societal impacts. [1:01:20] Justin thanks Gerald Ladner, Sr., Stephen Volbrecht, and James Cox for being on RIMScast. Anyone who wants to hear more from SORM will travel out to Dallas on September 19th for the DFW RIMS Annual Meeting! Justin will be there and looks forward to seeing them in person, hearing what they have to say, and shaking their hands for a big group shot! [1:01:57] Special thanks again to all of our guests from the Texas State Office of Risk Management, Gerald Ladner, Sr., Stephen Volbrecht, James Cox, and of course, former DFW RIMS President, Penni Chambers, who was also on the RIMS Board of Directors. The DFW RIMS Fall Conference and Spa Event will be held on September 19th and on the 20th is Spa Day. [1:02:24] Visit DFWRIMS.org to register. [1:02:27] Extra special thanks to our sponsor Hillwood. Hillwood is a leading multi-national real estate development company and part of the Perot family of companies. Hillwood's diverse portfolio includes industrial, logistics, corporate, office, retail, aviation, and multi-family housing developments. [1:02:43] Notably, Hillwood's Alliance Texas project has generated over 66,000 jobs and a $120 billion economic impact. Hillwood operates in 65 markets across North America and Europe, constantly seeking opportunities to create vibrant communities and deliver value to its partners. Visit Hillwood.com for more information. [1:03:07] It's Plug Time! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [1:03:42] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [1:04:26] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [1:04:43] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [1:04:59] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. 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RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interviews featuring RIMS Risk Management Honor Roll Inductee Mrunal Pandit!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guests: Stephen Volbrecht, Executive Director for the State Office of Risk Management (SORM) James Cox, Division Chief of Strategic Programs (SORM) Gerald Ladner, Sr., Chairman of the Board of Directors (SORM) Penni Chambers, former DFW RIMS president and RIMS Board Chairperson   Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use): The cheapest injury that you ever have is the one that doesn't happen. — Stephen Volbrecht   Our approach is never to underestimate what can happen. Uncertainty is at the basis of all risk; not understanding what the consequences may be. So what you do is you anticipate the worst-case scenario, you prepare for that, and then you go from there. — Stephen Volbrecht   No matter the specialization in the military, the military does very well operating in high- or higher-risk environments. They drill mission and safety in equal parts. — James Cox   We're in a world where change is increasing and the ability to get fresh, insightful information allows organizations like SORM to think through the next round of strategies so that we can manage the risks. — Gerald Ladner, Sr.  

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On today's episode we visit with Paul Goldsmith, award winning cinematographer and creator of Talking Stone: Rock Art of the Coso, documentary film and the coffee table book on Coso rock art based on our film. In this episode we discuss some surprising insights Paul has after firsthand meetings with practicing shamans in the Amazon. He gives us a glimpse of what they are like and some surprising reflections on his interactions. You will learn some interesting aspects about shamanism and the Native American cultures. A lively discussion!TranscriptsFor rough transcripts of this episode go to https://www.archpodnet.com/rockart/123Links Talking Stone Documentary Talking Stone Book Paul Goldsmith's WebsiteContact Dr. Alan Garfinkelavram1952@yahoo.comDr. Alan Garfinkel's WebsiteSupport Dr. Garfinkel on PatreonArchPodNet APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com APN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnet APN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnet APN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnet Tee Public StoreAffiliates and Sponsors California Rock Art Foundation Motion

On today's episode we visit with Paul Goldsmith, award winning cinematographer and creator of Talking Stone: Rock Art of the Coso, documentary film and the coffee table book on Coso rock art based on our film. In this episode we discuss some surprising insights Paul has after firsthand meetings with practicing shamans in the Amazon. He gives us a glimpse of what they are like and some surprising reflections on his interactions. You will learn some interesting aspects about shamanism and the Native American cultures. A lively discussion!TranscriptsFor rough transcripts of this episode go to https://www.archpodnet.com/rockart/123Links Talking Stone Documentary Talking Stone Book Paul Goldsmith's WebsiteContact Dr. Alan Garfinkelavram1952@yahoo.comDr. Alan Garfinkel's WebsiteSupport Dr. Garfinkel on PatreonArchPodNet APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com APN on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/archpodnet APN on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/archpodnet APN on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/archpodnet Tee Public StoreAffiliates and Sponsors California Rock Art Foundation Motion

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin Smulison interviews returning guest Jana Utter. Jana is the 2022 Risk Management Honor Roll inductee and a former RIMS SERMC Chair. Jana remains active on RIMS committees. On May 6 at 2:45 pm, she will co-host a RISKWORLD session, Sustainability Reporting: Making ERM Transparent: Environmental, Social and Governance in ROOM 25AB. The SEC is in the news with final and proposed Climate Disclosure Rules announced. Jana shares her knowledge, experience, and risk philosophy, a cluster of acronyms, and why ERM needs to connect more fully with ESG. Jana will be co-hosting a session on the ESG track with Bob Wirth at RISKWORLD 2024. Listen in to learn more about emerging ESG risk reporting and disclosure. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:14] Public registration for RISKWORLD 2024 is now open. Explore infinite opportunities with RIMS from May 5th through May 8th, 2024, in San Diego, California. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:31] About today's episode of RIMScast. My friend Jana Utter returns to discuss ERM, ESG, and the new Climate Reporting Disclosures; the SEC, the CSRD, and more. We've got a lot of acronyms today! [1:01] As you know, RISKWORLD 2024 is coming up from May 5th through May 8th, 2024, in sunny San Diego, California. Registration is open at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Register today! There's a link in this episode's show notes. [1:22] In Episode 276 of RIMScast we had opening keynote Peter Diamandis join us. Check out that episode for just a taste of what's in store for RISKWORLD 2024. The full roster of keynotes has been announced! I'm so excited! We will be welcoming Academy Award-winning actress, director, and activist, Marlee Matlin! [1:46] For our industry keynote, we will be rejoined by Evan G. Greenberg, the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Chubb Limited and Chubb Group. That session will be sponsored by Chubb. Just announced, our closing keynote on May 8th will be Daymond G. John. You know him from Shark Tank. He's also the Founder of FUBU. I'm a big fan! [2:10] I'm extremely excited about that closing keynote on May 8th! Experience all the energies of our keynotes at RISKWORLD! Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. We want to see you there! [2:24] Today's guest is one of my favorites. She is Jana Utter, the Vice President of Enterprise Risk Management at Centene Corporation. In 2022, RIMS named her to the Risk Management Honor Roll. She is the former chair of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management  Council. Jana is knowledgeable about ERM and ESG. [2:50] Since there were new SEC Climate Disclosure Rules announced, I wanted Jana to come back on the show and fill us in on what we need to know. This dialogue will dovetail with her upcoming RISKWORLD session on May 6th at 2:45 p.m. in Room AB25, Sustainability Reporting, Making ERM Transparent. It is part of the ESG track. She'll be co-presenting with Bob Hirth. [3:25] Jana Utter, welcome back to RIMScast! Jana was the 2022 RIMS Risk Management Honor Roll Inductee. Jana and Justin go back quite a few years. This is her third time as a RIMScast guest. Jana was the chair of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council. She misses it a bit but has moved on to other RIMS volunteer activities. [4:10] Jana is here to discuss the SEC Climate Disclosures in the news. The U.S. SEC proposed final rules for Sustainability Reporting Standards. Also, the EU Corporate Standard Reporting Directive (CSRD) is making headlines. [5:02] Jana thinks it is important as risk professionals to think of sustainability in the same way that we think about enterprise risk management. They are both important. Jana speaks of the 2017 COSO ERM Update, Integrating Strategy with Performance. [5:29] That COSO document says that ERM helps enhance performance by more closely linking strategy and business objectives to risk. ERM affects value strategy and is linked to the business. The COSO framework also discusses how ERM leads to better decision-making. [5:48] The International Sustainability Standards Board (ISSB) says sustainability factors are becoming part of mainstream investment decision-making. Companies are called upon to provide high-quality global comparable information on sustainability reported risks and opportunities. [6:28] As ERM professionals, we are trying to identify risks to help protect the value and future ongoing business concerns of the company. Sustainability reporting is trying to do the same thing, protect the long-term value of the company. To Jana, that seems to be a natural fit. [7:00] Justin and Jana agree that the data should support the story-telling of the organization or the risk professional. Sustainability reporting is a big part of that data, just as financial statements are. [7:17] Sustainability reporting disclosures publish additional information by a company to inform stakeholders, including investors, business partners, employees, and customers. Jana thinks about it the same way as about financial statement information, which caters to the same stakeholder audience. [8:14] Jana notes it's important to know which of the different reporting directives for sustainability reporting standards apply to your company in the jurisdictions or geographies in which your company operates. Global sustainability disclosures are not 100% consistent. In the U.S., some states have additional expectations for ESG reporting above the SEC rules. [10:10] ESG is showing up in commercials. Jana finds that interesting as her friends and family still don't know what the acronym ESG means. It's appearing in the mainstream, with DEI. [11:31] Jana says that a lot of people who are responsible for enterprise risk management, including her industry peers, are not also responsible for sustainability reporting and disclosures. How can risk professionals get connected to the sustainability reporting team? [12:23] Jana recommends risk professionals use the RACI matrix: Who's Responsible? Who's Accountable? Who's Consulted? And Who's Informed? If you're not in this matrix, ask to join it as a consultant. She lists ways to contribute by connecting to different areas of the company. [13:56] It's important to know where your company operates. U.S. companies with no operations outside the U.S. may be able to follow the IFRS SASB Sustainable Accounting Standards and the SEC Climate Disclosure rules and other SEC-related rules that cover sustainability, as well as any state rules. [14:59] If you're U.S.-based with any operations in Europe, you're going to want to monitor CSRD and make sure you understand and follow that protocol. That should cover you for the majority of any sustainability risks in the U.S. [15:42] Jana's go-tos are the International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS), International Sustainability Standards Board (ISSB), and Sustainability Accounting Standards Board (SASB). ISSB includes the Taskforce on Climate-Related Financial Disclosure (TCFD). TCFD and CDP (formerly Carbon Disclosure Project) are closely aligned. [16:46] Jana repeats, pay attention to the IFRS and what they do. IFRS is geared to the investor community. Also watch the Global Reporting Initiative (GRI), which is focused on social and environmental impact reporting. [17:46] SASB is the Sustainability Accounting Standards Board. Justin invites you to look for these acronym links in the show notes. [18:06] RIMS plug time! You can sign up now for RISKWORLD pre-conference workshops. They will all be held on May 4th and 5th at the San Diego Convention Center. The link is in this episode's show notes. [18:19] The topics include but are not limited to Applying and Integrating ERM, Fundamentals of Insurance, and a RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Workshop. Go to RIMS.org/RISKWORLD, go to Learn, and then Workshops and you'll find them there. [18:35] RIMS Virtual Workshops: Visit RIMS.org/virtualworkshops to see the full calendar. Virtual workshops are in session, beginning in June, starting with Leveraging Data and Analytics for Continuous Risk Management. That's a three-part course that begins on June 6th. We've got Fundamentals of Insurance on June 11th and 12th. [18:55] We've got Fundamentals of Risk Management on June 18th and 19th and we've got Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique on June 26th and 27th. More information about these workshops and others is on the RIMS Virtual Workshops page and a link is in this episode's show notes. [19:13] If you attend RISKWORLD, be sure to download the RIMS Events App. This is different from the RIMS App, available only to members. The RIMS Events App will help you keep sessions organized, take notes, communicate with other attendees, and a whole lot of other great features because there's so much happening. This is a great way to stay on schedule. [19:38] On May 8th, at 2:10 p.m., please go over to the Global Studio and check out RIMScast Live for a special session with RIMS Risk Manager of the Year 2024, Steve Robles. Steve received the award for his fantastic work with LA County. We will discuss his career and we will give all of you a chance to ask him anything that's on your mind. [20:03] Steve's a great guest. We've already  recorded next week's episode together. In a clip from the episode, Steve says his risk group at LA County was responsible for about 100K county employees. He didn't know all their names, but if he knew their name, that was probably a bad thing! Be sure to tune in to RIMScast next week for more podcasting gold! [20:35] Steve was a lot of fun and our session at the Global Studio on May 8th at 2:10 p.m. is going to be a blast! Be there! [20:43] Webinars: On April 30th, to close out Supply Chain Integrity Month, we welcome Moody's, who will present Resilience in Turbulent Times: Navigating Geopolitical Challenges in Supply Chains. Our friends from TÜV SÜD GRC will return on May 23rd with Respond to Emerging Risks with a Winning Property Loss Control Formula. [21:08] On June 6th, Evident ID makes its RIMS Webinar debut with Uncovering Hidden Risks in Your Third-Party Risk Management Program. On June 13th, our friends at Riskonnect return to present Unlocking the Value of Business Continuity and Insurable Risk Management. That's a great line-up for the next couple of months! [21:30] Visit RIMS.org/Webinars to learn more about these webinars and to register! Links are in the show notes. Webinar registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [21:38] The RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be held on November 18th and 19th in Boston, Massachusetts. RIMS continues to present the best conference agenda by featuring the most engaged and knowledgeable risk professionals leading the discussions. [21:53] RIMS wants to hear from you. Submit your session by Friday, May 3rd. A link is in this episode's show notes. The best submissions will address current and future issues facing ERM practitioners and provide takeaways for an audience of risk professionals, business leaders, students, governmental officers, legal professionals, and more. [24:15] You must keep it relevant to ERM and Strategic Enterprise Risk Management. Remember, product sales pitches are not acceptable nor appropriate as part of the RIMS ERM Conference Education Program. [22:46] Jana Utter has a session at RISKWORLD on May 6th at 2:45 p.m. with Bob Hirth, called Sustainability Reporting: Making ERM Transparent. It's part of the ESG track. It will be in Room 25AB. Jana is excited about the session. There are a lot of great sessions that run concurrently, but everybody should head over to Room 25AB on May 6th at 2:45 to hear more from Jana! [23:35] Risk professionals are supposed to have a line of communication to the C-suite and the enterprise to take these announcements seriously. Jana says a risk professional has to treat sustainability reporting and disclosures like any other risk. An emerging risk can sometimes bubble up to become a noticed risk. [24:42] Jana tells of her experience in reporting what ERM saw as up-and-coming emerging risks, capturing ESG and sustainability-related risks, and reporting disclosure expectations bubbling up in emerging risks. It eventually gets the attention when the time is right. [25:40] Keep any emerging risk in the reporting to the extent possible. When the time is right, it will become important, not only to the ERM professional but to others where you've been trying to raise the flag. Risk professionals, make a note! [26:19] Jana says Scope 3 Emissions are pretty complex. It is comprised of 15 categories. Scope 1 is a company's use of natural gas. Scope 2 is its use of electricity. They're more straightforward. [27:16] The focus of Scope 3 is supply chain emissions. Most enterprise risk management professionals may not know or have had any reason to focus on how many suppliers their company has. It can be thousands or tens of thousands. It's challenging. [27:54] The Greenhouse Gas Protocol and other authoritative sources have ways to categorize types of vendors and use categorizations as a way to calculate emissions. It's still very complex and much more subjective. [28:30] To get the quality of reporting you need for financial statements, with external auditor reviews and having the same level of controls and tightness on the calculations, Scope 3 becomes quite complex. [28:56] Justin reads from the U.S. EPA guidance on Scope 3: “The result of activities from assets not owned or controlled by the reporting organization but that the organization indirectly affects in its value chain.” Scope 3 emissions include up-chain and down-chain. A risk professional has a lot of work to do dealing with Scope 3 emissions. [29:37] Jana mentions that a challenge around Scope 3 is double counting. A manufacturer uses a third party to deliver goods to a retailer. Both the manufacturer and the retailer count the third party for emissions. Communication has to occur between the manufacturer and its retailers. So Scope 3 emissions reporting is not required now. [31:04] Jana talks about possible consequences of the failure of an enterprise to comply with the rule. It will probably be similar to any other failure to report accurately. You'll get a letter with a deadline to comply. There could be levels of penalties. It could be the same as not filing your financial statements on time. Jana suggests you check with your legal counsel. [33:10] Another trend Jana sees is the rise of Artificial Intelligence. It's on everybody's mind. There are sessions at RISKWORLD on the upside and downside risks and benefits of AI. AI has the ability to bring together a lot of information for the ERM practitioner. It still needs human interaction to determine what those results might mean and play out for your company. [34:32] Jana would not limit the research to what the AI brought back for a data set. AI can't replace the human experience and reasoning ability. [35:05] Another topic Jana sees, as we get to 2025, people are looking to the end of the decade from a risk perspective, taking a little longer-term view than normal for risk professionals, looking past current and emerging risk and thinking ahead. How are the risks of today going to progress to 2030? Justin invites Jana to come back in 2030 for a look back! [36:32] Justin describes how he has eased into using AI for simple things. [37:17] On May 6, at 2:45 p.m. in Room 25AB, Jana will co-host a RISKWORLD session, Sustainability Reporting: Making ERM Transparent: Environmental, Social and Governance. It may be one of the last times we see Bob Hirth speaking in a session with Jana. Bob has quasi-retired. They will reminisce a bit about what came true and what did not. [38:57] Jana and Bob will take questions if there is time at the end and maybe during the session. Check out Sustainability Reporting: Making ERM Transparent. This is going to affect your organization! [39:22] Jana, it has been such a pleasure to reconnect with you! We always find your insights very enlightening. We'll have you back before 2030! Let's set a date after we wrap and a date for 2030! Thank you, Jana! [39:42] Special thanks again to Jana Utter for joining us here on RIMScast. She's one of our favorites and she will be one of yours, too, when you see her live at RISKWORLD, on May 6th at 2:45 p.m. in Room 25AB for Sustainability Reporting: Making ERM Transparent! Registered attendees should use the RIMS Events App to get you where you need to go at RISKWORLD. [40:08] Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App. This is an exclusive members-only benefit with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everybody loves the RIMS App! [40:40] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [41:25] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [41:43] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [41:59] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [42:20] Thank you for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RISKWORLD 2024 — San Diego, CA | May 5–8, 2024 RISKWORLD Pre-Conference Workshops RISKWORLD Speakers NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App RIMS DEI Council Spencer Educational Foundation — Grants Page RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS-CRMP Virtual Workshops RIMS ERM Conference 2024 — Nov 18-19 — Boston, MA — Call For Session Submissions by May 3. RIMS Risk Management Awards Edition 2024 Spencer-RIMS Risk Management Challenge — Live at RISKWORLD SEC Climate Disclosures — March 2024 announcement (On March 6, 2024, the SEC issued a final rule different from the proposed rule.)   RIMS Webinars: Resilience In Turbulent Times: Navigating Geopolitical Challenges in Supply Chains | Sponsored by Moody's | April 30, 2024 Respond to Emerging Risks with this Winning Property Loss Control Formula | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD GRC| May 23, 2024 Uncovering Hidden Risks in Your Third-Party Risk Management Program | Sponsored by EVIDENT ID | June 6, 2024 Unlocking the Value of Business Continuity and Insurable Risk Management | Sponsored by Riskonnect | June 13, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “ERM, ESG, and More Acronyms with Jana Utter” (2022) “Scenario Planning in 2024 with the RIMS SERMC” “RISKWORLD 2024 Keynote Peter Diamandis” “Harnessing Innovation's Promise with ERM Conference 2023 Keynote Bob Roitblat” “Live From RIMS ERM Conference 2023” “All Roads Lead to ERM” “ERM's Value Proposition with Chris Mandel” Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and risk engineering's role in protecting commercial properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL (New!) “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyberrisk Outlook 2023” | Sponsored by Alliant “Chemical Industry: How To Succeed Amid Emerging Risks and a Challenging Market” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD “Insuring the Future of the Environment” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Insights into the Gig Economy and its Contractors” | Sponsored by Zurich “The Importance of Disaster Planning Relationships” | Sponsored by ServiceMaster   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring Manny Padilla! Spencer Educational Foundation “Leveraging Insurance and Risk Management to Address Political Risk” — RIMS Executive Report   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Jana Utter: Vice President, Enterprise Risk Management, Centene Corporation Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use): It's important as risk professionals to think of sustainability in the same way we think about enterprise risk management. We think about ERM as being important. Then sustainability is also important. — Jana Utter   There's a lot out there and you can get overwhelmed by trying to meet the requirements or expectations of all of them. — Jana Utter   In reporting disclosure expectations bubbling up in emerging risks, it eventually gets the attention when the time is right. — Jana Utter   As we get to 2025, I'm seeing a lot of looking to the end of the decade, from a risk perspective, taking a little longer-term view than we normally do as risk professionals, coupling current and emerging and what may be new on the horizon, thinking ahead to 2030. — Jana Utter

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Welcome to a special series sponsored by Diligent, where we look down the road at key issues in 2024 and beyond. In this series, I will visit with Nicholas Latham, Renee Murphy, Jessica Czeczuga, Yee Chow, and Alexander Cotoia. Over this series, we will consider compliant communications in regulated industries, managing conflicts of interest at the Board level, the Board's role in compliance training and communications, navigating the current ESG landscape, and professional growth and mentorship in compliance. In this Part 1, we consider compliant communications in regulated industries with Nicholas Latham. Nicholas Latham is an accounting professional with a strong accounting and risk management background, currently serving as a Client Partner at Diligent Corporation. His perspective on accounting and risk assessment is shaped by his extensive experience in the financial industry, particularly in the collections department of a US bank. Nicholas believes that organizations must implement and adapt frameworks such as COSO and ISO 31,000 to manage and mitigate risks effectively. He also emphasizes the need for a holistic view of risk and control across the entire organization rather than siloed departments, and he believes these frameworks can help provide a comprehensive understanding of the organization's risk landscape. Join Tom Fox and Nicholas Latham on this episode of the Diligent Podcast as they delve deeper into Latham's expertise in governmental accounting and risk assessment. Key Highlights: Risk and Control Expertise in Professional Background Assessing and Mitigating Risk in Organizations Holistic View of Organizational Operations and Risk Ready for Purpose-Driven Compliance? Diligent equips leaders with the tools to build, monitor, and maintain an open, transparent ethics and compliance culture. For more information and to book a demo, visit Diligent.com Join us tomorrow, where we will consider managing conflicts of interest at the Board of Directors.

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin interviews Bob Bowman, the CRO of Wendy's in today's episode. Bob will be the guest panelist in the December 12th RIMS webinar, Prepare Yourself for the New Generation of Risk. Bob speaks of his career trajectory and what he learned as a claims manager for Safeco Insurance, a risk manager for Macy's, and the Chief Risk Officer of Wendy's. He talks about connecting with programs across the corporate reach of Wendy's and what falls under his oversight as the CRO. Justin shares the focus of the December 12th webinar and also provides his words of advice for young risk    Listen in for an interesting overview of ERM at Wendy's.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMScast. [:14] RISKWORLD 2024 will be held in sunny San Diego, California, from May 5th through May 8th. Booth and sponsorship sales are open. Member registration opens in November 2023. Public registration opens December 6th, 2023. Visit RIMS.org/riskworld for more information. [:35] About today's episode, a discussion of franchising, merging risks, and professional development, with our guest, Bob Bowman of Wendy's. [:56] The RIMS CRMP is the only competency-based risk management credential. That matters because earning the certification shows employers and recruiters that you have the skills necessary to manage risk and create value for your organization. [1:16] Several Exam Prep virtual workshops are coming up, starting on December 13th and 14th with former RIMS president, Chris Mandel. On January 13th, 20th, and 27th, 2024, the RIMS-CRMP Exam Virtual Workshop will be presented in conjunction with Conrad Clark Nigeria. [1:39] The RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Prep Virtual Workshop will be held on January 30th and February 1st. That's a two-day course. Visit the certification page on RIMS.org for more information. A link is on this episode's show notes. [1:56] RIMS is gearing up for awards season. At RISKWORLD 2024, we will honor individuals, organizations, and chapters for their outstanding achievements in risk management. If you know someone who is truly making an impact on the risk profession and paving the way for future generations, consider drafting a nomination! [2:15] The deadline to submit award nominations is Friday, January 5th, 2024. A link to the awards applications and guidelines page is in this episode's show notes. Go to RIMS.org's About Us page and see the awards link there. Nominations for Risk Manager of the Year have closed but there are other awards that might appeal to you or a friend. [2:43] Bob Bowman is the CRO (Chief Risk Officer) for Wendy's. We will talk about franchising risks, merging risks, enterprise risk management, and professional development and hear about his career, which started in insurance. He worked at Macy's for several years and is now at Wendy's [3:10] We're going to talk about how and when Bob and his risk group are involved at different stages of decision-making for this global brand. [3:20] Quick plug! Bob Bowman is going to be the guest panelist for our upcoming RIMS webinar, presented by Riskonnect on December 12th. It's titled Prepare Yourself for the New Generation of Risk. The link is in this episode's show notes. Anyone who hears this interview will want to hear more from him in this webinar on December 12th! [3:45] Bob Bowman, welcome to RIMScast! [4:12] Bob's title at Wendy's is Chief Risk Officer. He has been with Wendy's for a little under 10 years. Bob tells of his time before that. He started in claims management in 1990 at Safeco Insurance. He backed into insurance as his degree is in restaurant and hospitality management. [5:38] From Safeco Insurance, Bob moved into the risk management space with help from a mentor and professional networking connections. [6:10] Bob was at Macy's for over 20 years. Macy's was going through a lot of change and transition at the time. When Bob joined Macy's, retail was vital and thriving. When Bob left Macy's, retail was just becoming aware of Amazon. Digital commerce was making itself known. [6:58] Bob had done an internship with Wendy's in college. Twenty-plus years later they made him an offer. He had loved his experiences at Macy's but everything was siloed. The offer at Wendy's was to connect the siloes and steer the ship. The pieces he had learned at Macy's had to be translated into a single strategy for success at Wendy's. [8:14] Risk management both in retail and at Wendy's is about product and process. It's all about delivering something of perceived value to the consumer, along with an experience. The experience might be the more important part of the equation. It's getting the product and experience right every time, in the perception of the customer. [9:10] Wendy's corporate headquarters hired Bob to work with the risk management team they had and develop it for organizational resilience, business continuity planning, crisis management, and enterprise risk management. [10:15] Bob tells how he referred to ISO and COSO in charting the path for Wendy's. It is now part of the way Wendy's manages every program. Every program begins with a framework selection of ISO, COSO, or another standard or industry best practices. [10:59] Food preparation and location selection are under other leaders. Bob's space is risk management in any and every program at Wendy's. He uses a consistent business model across all of the programs. [11:37] Franchising is a unique business model. It has many advantages but also comes with inherent risks. There is less control with autonomous, independent businesspeople working within a single brand with a desire to deliver a consistent experience to the customer across the franchise system. [12:46] Wendy's franchisees are autonomous but must be respectful of regulation. [13:42] The Wendy's corporate risk management group has grown since Bob started. There were six to eight risk managers in 2014. Today it is a group of about 15. [14:31] Bob discusses what is behind the growth of risk management at Wendy's. There is increasing complexity in the world, so there is increasing value in and appreciation for risk management. The way Wendy's transacts business has changed and continues to change. There are new technology risks. [16:17] When Bob started in the industry, there was a push to master tangible risks. Over the last five years, that has become a push to master intangible risks: digital data technology, network systems, cloud, hardware, software, and so forth. [16:51] RIMS plug time! RIMS Virtual Workshops: Visit RIMS.org/virtualworkshops to see the full calendar. December 7th starts the three-part course, Leveraging Data and Analytics for Continuous Risk Management, which will be led by our friend Pat Saporito. [17:12] Fundamentals of Insurance returns on December 12th and 13th. It will be led by our good friend Gail Kyomura. Information about these workshops and others is on the RIMS Virtual Workshops page. Check it out and register! [17:28] At 5:00 p.m. India Standard Time, on December 1st, Prudent Insurance Brokers Private Ltd. returns to discuss Business Interruption. On December 7, 2023, our friends at TÜV SÜD GRC return to discuss Engineering Resilience: Strategies for Preventing Machinery Breakdown. [17:49] Bob Bowman, our guest today is on the next webinar. On December 12th, Prepare Yourself for the New Generation of Risk with Riskonnect. On December 14th, Aon will be Addressing Today's Risks While Preparing for the Risks of Tomorrow. [18:05] On January 4th, RIMS's Public Policy Committee will explore Nevada's “Defense Within The Limits” Ban. On January 16th, RIMS will present How Risk Managers Can Combat Human Trafficking In 2024. Justin will host that session and will be joined by three expert panelists. He is looking forward to reaching you all with this session. [18:26] Visit RIMS.org/Webinars to learn more about these webinars and to register! Links are in the show notes. Webinar registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [19:37] Bob describes risk as uncertainty. Wherever there is uncertainty, that is risk. What are the things that need to be true to reduce that uncertainty? That's risk management. You can apply that easily to intangible risk. Bob does not have the technology background that would equip him to participate in the innovation discussion. [20:28] Bob trusts the CTO and others with technology backgrounds to guide him so he knows how to advise the C-suite. The intangible risk space is growing across nearly every aspect of the business. To be effective, Bob partners with every business function. [22:31] Wendy's attempts to simplify risk management. To Bob, if you are going to be effective as a risk management practitioner, simplifying is the table stakes. The balance of the business has little interest in and appreciation for risk management until it's relevant through their lens and on their terms with the results they are trying to achieve. [23:45] What has enabled Bob and his team to find some success is the risk profile, which is getting to know the risk from the perspective of the business, and the business leaders. It's up to the risk managers to speak the language of risk from the perspective of the leaders and grasp the challenges of each functional area of the business. [24:41] Risk management is asking, what could we do to make that desirable outcome more certain or increase the probability that we will hit that target. Bob asks, If I could guarantee you a greater probability that you will achieve your goals, wouldn't you begin thinking about more goals? Wouldn't you be more ambitious about accomplishments? [25:36] New items and new recipes would only come to the risk management department in terms of food safety. [26:31] Bob says he was on the periphery of the breakfast menu unveiling and he gives credit to an amazing team. Breakfast For Us in its current form is a recent innovation. Without prompting from risk management, the team coming up with the menu asked, what are the things that need to be true for this to be a successful endeavor? [27:01] That is risk-based decision-making from the outset of the idea. There was a lot of labor, expertise, and collaborative decision-making across the entire organization for months that went into the development of the breakfast menu. Bob wonders how many of the things that needed to be true went from not yet being true, to true, in the process. [29:30] Bob talks about the collaborative partnership between the Wendy's corporation and the franchisees. All parties have to be represented in the discussion. [30:09] Bob speaks about his part in the webinar coming on December 12th, Prepare Yourself for the New Generation of Risk. It goes toward the dilemma that many risk professionals are confronted with. There are so many new, evolving, uncertain areas of risk and risk management. The world is delivering us a heavy dose of VUCA! [30:52] We've got to be equipped to understand the VUCA World and be able to translate it to our organizations. This webinar will focus on that. Justin will host. It's a great way to close out the year! [31:33] As Bob looks back on his career, his advice to young people considering risk management is to get a mentor and a professional network, do hard work, and be willing to expand one's skill set. Support great people to be supported by great people. That's a universal part of the equation. [32:31] Special thanks to Bob Bowman of Wendy's for joining us on RIMScast! You can hear more of Bob's perspective and experience in the December 12th RIMS Webinar sponsored by Riskonnect titled Prepare Yourself for the New Generation of Risk. Register at RIMS.org/webinars and the link in this episode's show notes. [32:52] Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App. This is a special members-only benefit. Everybody loves the RIMS App! [33:19] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [34:03] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. The RIMS app is available only for RIMS members! You can find it in the App Store. [34:28] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [34:44] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com and in print, and check out the blog at RiskManagementMonitor.com. Justin Smulison is Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [35:07] Thank you for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: Riskworld 2024 — San Diego, CA | May 5–8, 2024 RIMS Riskworld Award Nominations — Jan. 5, 2024, is the deadline to submit nominations! RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App Spencer Educational Foundation — Grants Page Embrace The Unknown: Unleashing the Power of Risk | Hosted Live & In-Person by RIMS NZ & PI | Feb. 12, 2024 Dan Kugler Risk Manager on Campus Grant RIMS Risk Management Magazine: ERM Special Edition 2023 RIMS Webinars: Engineering Resilience: Strategies for Preventing Machinery Breakdown | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD | Dec. 7, 2023 Prepare Yourself for the New Generation of Risk | Sponsored by Riskonnect | Dec. 12, 2023 Addressing Today's Risks While Preparing for Tomorrow | Sponsored by Aon | Dec. 14, 2023 Nevada's “Defense Within The Limits” Ban Explored | Presented by RIMS Public Policy Committee | Jan. 4, 2024 How Risk Managers Can Combat Human Trafficking In 2024 | Presented by RIMS | Jan. 16, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars Upcoming Virtual Workshops: Leveraging Data and Analytics for Continuous Risk Management | Dec 7 Fundamentals of Insurance | Dec 12 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops All RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops — Including Chris Mandel's Dec 13–14 Course Related RIMScast Episodes: On The Menu: Restaurant Injury Risk Trends in 2023 Franchise Risks in 2022 with Karen Agostinho of Five Guys Enterprises Risk Insight with AAIN Leadership and Panda Express Fleet Safety with Nets Executive Director Susan Gillies-Hipp Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response (New!) “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyberrisk Outlook 2023” | Sponsored by Alliant “Chemical Industry: How To Succeed Amid Emerging Risks and a Challenging Market” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD “Insuring the Future of the Environment” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Insights into the Gig Economy and its Contractors” | Sponsored by Zurich “The Importance of Disaster Planning Relationships” | Sponsored by ServiceMaster “Technology, Media and Telecom Solutions in 2023” | Sponsored by Allianz “Analytics in Action” | Sponsored by Alliant “Captive Market Outlook and Industry Insights” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Using M&A Insurance: The How and Why” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Zurich's Construction Sustainability Outlook for 2023” “ESG Through the Risk Lens” | Sponsored by Riskonnect “A Look at the Cyber Insurance Market” | Sponsored by AXA XL   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars Risk Management Magazine Risk Management Monitor RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring Chris Mandel! Spencer Educational Foundation RIMS DEI Council   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play RIMS Buyers Guide Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org and listen on Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest   Bob Bowman on LinkedIn   Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use): When I joined Macy's, retail was strong, vital, and thriving. By the time I left Macy's, retail was just becoming aware of Amazon. Digital commerce was making itself known. — Bob Bowman   There is less control with independent businesspeople who desire to maintain that independence. At the same time, you're working within a single brand, with a desire for consistency, and a desire to deliver a consistent experience to the customer across the system. — Bob Bowman   I would tell young risk managers to get a mentor and a professional network, do the hard work, and be willing to expand one's skill set. Support great people to be supported by great people. — Bob Bowman

Welcome to Count Me In, with your host, Adam Larson. In this episode, Adam is joined by Tim Hedley, the Executive in Residence at Fordham University and Shari Littan, Director, Corporate Reporting Research & Thought Leadership at IMA.  Join this thought-provoking discussion as they delve into the importance of internal controls, the evolving landscape of sustainability reporting, and the challenges and benefits organizations face in adopting sustainable business practices.Discover how the COSO framework, the gold standard for reliable reporting, has been adapted to include non-financial reporting objectives, aligning with the rise of sustainability and ESG reporting. Explore critical trends in the world of ESG reporting, from increasing regulations to stakeholder engagement and supply chain transparency.Learn from Tim and Shari as they share their insights on the challenges organizations face in implementing sustainable practices and balancing short-term profits with long-term sustainability goals. Understand the significance of internal controls in providing a basis for external assurance and building stakeholder trust in reported information.Join Tim and Shari for a live event Nov 30 - Dec 1 in NYC. Register todayFull Episode Transcript:< Intro > Adam:            Welcome to another episode of Count Me In. In today's episode, joining us are two guest experts. Tim Hedley, who is Executive-in-Residence at Fordham University, and Shari Littan, Director, Corporate Reporting, Research and Thought Leadership at IMA. Our discussion revolves around the importance of internal controls and sustainability reporting. And how they enhance trust, accountability, and reliability of the reported information.  Tim and Shari share insights from the COSO framework. Which was developed to help improve confidence in all types of data and information. The landscape of sustainability reporting is constantly evolving, with shifting regulatory requirements and increased stakeholder expectations. We explore crucial trends; such as the focus on materiality and risk assessments, stakeholder engagement, supply chain transparency, and evolving reporting metrics. Let's get started, with this enlightening conversation.  < Music > Adam:            Shari, Tim, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. We're really excited to be talking about COSO, internal control, and everything in that whole ESG world. But just for our listeners, who may be unfamiliar, you could've, probably, have heard the term COSO, or ICSR, and those things before, but maybe you're not familiar with those terms. Maybe, Shari, you could take a little bit of time and define, maybe, a high-level overview of what COSO is, the significant, internal control framework, and the purpose of the new documents. Shari:             I'd be happy to, thanks, Adam, it's great to be here. So COSO stands for Committee of Sponsoring Organizations and it came about in the late 1980s. It is a collaboration of five accountancy and auditing organizations. There's the American Accounting Association, which is an academic organization, primarily. AICPA, everyone is familiar. IMA, where we sit, and we primarily focus on the accountants and finance professionals in business, the in-house folks are ours. Institute of Internal Auditors, and FEI, Financial Executives International. So those five organizations make up COSO. COSO came about in the late 1980s, amid what was then the savings and loans crisis, and there was concern that the profession needed to do better. That we were starting to see major accounting failures, disclosure, litigation, regulation, questions. Are we doing the right things in the profession?" So the five accountancy organizations got together, and they said, "How are we going to resolve this? How are we going to promote trust and accountability in what we do, as a profession?" The focus became on this concept of internal controls, which we'll get to.  So in '92, after that, the COSO, as an organization, produced its first internal control framework. And then we can move forward to 1990s, late 1990s, 2000, the Enron, WorldCom's era, which led to Sarbanes-Oxley. And Sarbanes-Oxley, rather than looking at the substance of what a company needs to disclose, again, looked at the idea of governance process, auditing, and said, "In order to produce financial reports to the markets, you need to focus on your systems and your controls. You need management to speak to it, in your reporting system. You need auditors to address controls." We had the PCAOP. So we have this Sarbanes-Oxley, which created this idea of internal controls over financial reporting. And, although, Sarbanes Oxley didn't specifically say, "You must use the COSO framework." It was considered the best thing around, and it's become the gold standard in how to produce reliable financial or corporate reporting in more general. Now, in 2013, the framework was refreshed, we got a new internal control framework. And what it did, in the 2013 refresh, is it added the idea of non-financial reporting objectives. That was around the same time, about 10 years ago, when we started to see all kinds of sustainability integrated, ESG, reporting frameworks. And, so, though not express, what the framework did, in its refresh, was say "Yes, this is completely applicable to these types of activities and reporting." And, so, that leads us to where we are, today. Where, earlier, in 2023 we issued the internal control over sustainability reporting publication. And what the authors did, in that publication, was we looked at the existing internal control framework and said, "Okay, now we're seeing an acceleration of ESG or sustainability reporting and activities, performance and activities.  And that means we need good information, and that means we need quality information and transparency. Let's look at the COSO Internal Control Framework, and see how we can interpret it and apply it to these new forms of reporting. Adam:            Shari, I think that's a great overview. And, as you mentioned, there's the ever evolving nature of this new type of non-financial reporting, ESG reporting. There are shifts in regulatory compliance. We were just speaking before we started recording how this could change, or that could change, or this regulatory body can make a statement, at this moment, at this time, how this is constantly changing.  And, Tim, maybe, I'll ask you, how do you see this landscape changing? And what should organizations be, particularly, aware of, especially, with the ever evolving nature and things constantly moving? Tim:               Well, Adam, thank you, and thank you for having me here. The sustainability reporting landscape has rapidly changed, particularly, recently, to meet stakeholder expectation, and government regulations. And, Adam, your question could be an entire podcast, or a big section of this podcast if we had that kind of time, but I do see some critical trends, just some of the ones, from my perspective.  I mean, many people are out there, I'm sure Shari's got all kinds of ideas of what those trends might be. But there are some that just come to mind, for me. I think the biggest one that I think about a lot, and certainly what I experience in the classroom, and then talking to people who are in the field of sustainability reporting, some of the people I work with in different contexts, I think the first one is increasing regulation.Regulatory bodies, worldwide, are increasing their focus on sustainability reporting. And, personally, I think we should expect ever more stringent reporting requirements. And an interesting case in point, I think, is under the new California Climate Corporate Data Accountability Act. U.S. companies with annual revenues of $1 billion or more, in the State of California, for report both their direct and indirect greenhouse gas emissions, in the next few years. I think that's a huge change and really indicative of the kinds of things that we can expect going forward.  I think next is, probably, increased investor pressure, I have no doubt about that. Institutional investors are placing more emphasis on sustainability factors, while making investment decisions. And, actually, I just saw an actual run of this, recently, last month, actually, they are employing very structured analysis using very detailed sustainability factors. So I think there's going to be more and more demand for increased disclosures, and that's not going to go away anytime soon. I think we're going to see more focus on meaningful materiality and risk assessments. People are paying a lot of attention to ensuring there are robust materiality and risk assessments, that identify and prioritize issues that are most relevant to businesses and to stakeholders. Stakeholder engagement will increasingly be more important.  Engaging with stakeholders now is critical, but, I think, it's only going to become ever more so, as we move through this process. There appears to be a much keener focus on greenwashing, and I, personally, think this is a huge problem for us. I think it's actually gotten to the point, where it seems that the perception of greenwashing is causing some pushback in this space and, actually, almost threatening the integrity of the effort. I think we're going to have to think a lot more about honest transparency, in this process. Do we want people to actually buy into this and trust the process, and the kinds of things, this year, I was just talking about? I think I'm leaning directly toward that notion of more honest transparency. I think there's going to be a greater focus on supply chain transparency. Particularly around human rights, DEI, environmental impact, all these kinds of things. I think we've only seen the tip of the iceberg in this space. I think reporting, metrics will continue to change. The metrics that investors and stakeholders focus on are changing really fast. We are seeing a great deal of movement in the EU, in particular. For example, the Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive, which went into effect this past January, it's extending the requirement to report on sustainability management from a select number of companies in the EU to nearly all companies in the EU. Except these little micro companies, I guess. So, again, a lot of movement here, a lot of stuff is changing. My bottom line, I mean, I could keep listing these things. But my bottom line is that sustainable reporting is dynamic, it's always changing, and, as professionals, we must stay informed about changes in regulations, investor perceptions, and societal expectations.Shari:             Can I add just one thing to what Tim said, and that is we tend to focus, or we have tended to focus, when we think about corporate reporting on public companies. Because naturally there are securities regulations both in the U.S. and in various jurisdictions around the world. But one thing that we are seeing in the world of sustainability, or ESG information, is that it is going to affect small and medium-sized companies. Maybe not direct corporate disclosure, but to their commercial customers into supply chain. We're actually seeing where a large public company, for example, has made net-zero commitments or other kind of commitments. And they talk about that in their public materials, and it goes into their ratings, et cetera. Well, they turn around and turn to their suppliers and say, "If you want to sell to us, we want your carbon footprint data. We want your modern slavery DE&I data. And we're seeing, in a positive way, in certain places, where the large commercial buyer is working along with the smaller suppliers. The component, the agricultural companies, to say, "Let's find ways that we can work together."  And it has become a competitive advantage for non-public companies to be able to say, "Not only can I deliver your components, but I can deliver your components along with quality information." We're seeing supplier audits in this area starting to come up, or industry collaborations where they're setting standards. So it's not only public companies to think about. Tim:               It's not just the public companies, because I've had conversations with a lot of organizations, they're asking for my help in responding to their customers. And if they're part of the supply chain, they will, certainly, have to disclose Scope 1, 2, & 3 emissions. Shari:             Exactly. Tim:               And one of the problems they have is they have no clue, what in the world that company is talking about. They don't even know what the starting point is. We're talking about internal controls over sustainability reporting, this is wonderful stuff. But if you're a small organization, that's never even heard of this space, that has no idea how to report. A lot more education is going to be necessary for that upstream and downstream indirect emissions providers. I've had people call me up and say, "They're asking, now, my employees, how far do they drive to work? What kind of a car do they drive?" And all of these kinds of things, and it's very confusing for, in particular Scope 1, Scope 3, emissions information providers. Like "How in the world do I capture this stuff?" And, Shari, you're absolutely right, large organizations can't get where they want to get to with their reporting, unless the entire value chain comes on board. Adam:            That makes a lot of sense, and there's going to be so much pressure from the consumers and regulatory bodies. And I can imagine it's overwhelming for any organization. Maybe somebody is listening to this and saying, "I know I need to do something." And, so, maybe, we can define what some of the benefits are to organizations and some advantages, if they can apply the sustainability business, the internal control integrated framework, to their organization.Shari:             Well, I will say that, first of all, one of the great benefits of looking to the COSO framework, or ICSR as we're referring to it in shorthand, is that we already know how to do a lot of this. We have the ability to leverage what we already know about building good governance systems, and controls, and processes, and oversight into our company systems, and looking at the information flow. We can train, think about training our board, and our members, but we already have a lot of the tools, and the know-how to address the concerns. It's not as esoteric or new, it really can be rooted in what we already do. Second, another great benefit is that, although, we think about COSO Internal Control with respect to external financial reporting. When you actually get into the framework, it is enterprise wide, it is holistic.  If you want good reporting, well, then, you need good information, and that means you are tracking your activities, and what your company is doing. And if the company is taking steps to actually become more sustainable in their performance. Of how they source energy, and how they human resources, and take care of waste, and all of those things. So it runs throughout an entire organization.  And the thing that I find is that when you think about it holistically, you start with the concept of purpose. So if you look at the publication, you look at the framework, you look at principle one, a commitment to ethical behavior, of being a good corporate citizen. And what is your purpose?  Why does your company or organization exist in the world?  What are you aiming to achieve? Why should all of your investors, and stakeholders, and employees, stay with you?  What are they going to get out of this; with respect to performance, and activities, and returns? So it leverages a reexamination, it leads to a reexamination, I should say. Why does our organization exist?  What are we doing, and are we doing these things efficiently? Are we doing them effectively? When I first started writing this publication, when I was tapped to become part of the authorship team. I said, "Internal controls and sustainability, well, that feels a little apples and oranges, to me." But, in fact, it's really about focusing on goals. It's focusing on purpose, and objectives, and how the company achieves those, and the information that it uses to decide how it's going to use these resources. Tim:               And I think I'll add something because I thought that was a great explanation by Shari. The bottom line is, from my perspective, I think the framework we're dancing or advocating and what has been put together with respect to internal control and sustainable reporting, it's comprehensive. It has widespread acceptance, it focuses correctly, in my belief, on risk management. It's very adaptable. When I read the publication that Shari co-authored, it's absolutely adaptable. We had with the internal control, the Internal Control Integrated Framework, absolutely adaptable, and it works perfectly here. And, really, most importantly, it has absolute global applicability Shari:             Yes, when I hear Tim say that global applicability is that there are so many regulators, and policymakers, and standard setters, and all sorts of organizations that are saying, "Here's what you need to report." It's a lot on the what to report, but this gives a framework of method of how. Tim:               Yes, and it does a good job with that. Adam:            I think you've given a great explanation about all the advantages and how it benefits. But I can't imagine that it's an easy process, and there are got to be challenges that people can encounter along the way. Maybe we can discuss a few of those challenges, to help people feel at ease. Tim:               When I was thinking through this, you can talk about some of the challenges. But, I think, it might make sense to talk about what some of the benefits are before we got to the challenges, perhaps, because I found that significant. I think the first, at least, from my perspective, the first benefit is enhanced reputation. A commitment to a purpose-driven business can enhance an organization's reputation, there's very little doubt about that. And there's a fair amount to thought leadership research, and surveys, and what have you, that support what I just said. If you look at GM, you look at Procter & Gamble, those are great examples of companies, in their sustainability report that have detailed their corporate purpose in very explicit ways, and easy to read, and make a lot of sense. And really I tell you in this space, there's been a paradigm shift. From just being a shareholder-first mentality, to say, "Hey, well, you know what, there are a lot of stakeholders." I think through this process you can gain a competitive advantage. Gain business practices, it can help recruit, and retain talent, just for one example. They can foster innovation. They can lead to development of new products and services. Think about electric vehicles, think about solar, think about power storage. These are all kinds of industries that we were not even really thinking much about not that many years ago, at least, not in a serious way. They can provide access to new markets and opportunities. And one thing I found very important, certainly, as my work over the last 25 years in the governance space and what have you, I can go a long way to increasing stakeholder trust and engagements. It can also have significant cost savings. Case in point is 3M's, 3Ps-Pollution Prevention Pays.And if you look at a sustainability report you'll see that, "Hey, this has saved billions of dollars since its inception." And they do a good job now of highlighting it, even though this was before we were really talking about sustainability, and ESG, and these things, and they were on top of some of the stuff. Risk mitigation, sustainable practice if well executed, it can mitigate environmental, social, and governance risk, ESG risks. It can help avoid costly reputational damage, integrity breakdowns, governmental scrutiny, fines and penalties, all kinds of benefits. Help provide access to capital, companies that demonstrate strong sustainable performance. Can often find it easier to access capital from socially responsible investors and from institutions that prioritize sustainable investments. Can lead to long-term value creation by producing a more stable and sustainable business model, less risk, and what I would say are higher valuations. And I think that's the greatest selling point for, actually, doing this stuff in a very serious way. It really is all about long-term value creation. And, of course, finally, I would say it can differentiate your brand. If you embrace sustainability and corporate purpose, you can distinguish yourself from competitors and build a brand that resonates with your consumers. Remember, it's all about the consumers in the end. There are some challenges which you had mentioned earlier, when we talked about it earlier. I think one of the biggest ones, the initial investment costs for sustainable products and efforts can be very expensive. Perhaps beyond the grasp of some, but well worth the investment for many. Understanding shifting consumer preferences is not always straightforward. Encouraging consumers to choose sustainable options over conventional ones can be slow and a challenging journey. Sometimes these sustainable options are perceived, sometimes, as being more expensive. Regulatory compliance can be demanding. It may require continuous adjustments to business operations. Clients with changing environmental regulations and standards can require continuous adjustments to your business operations. Which may pose significant operational challenges. Another big one is balancing short-term and long-term objectives it's often tricky. Organizations may, counter a lot of pressure to prioritize immediate profits over long-term sustainability, creating both internal and external pressure. And some may, I'm afraid, think you have to sacrifice one for the other. And, Adam, I don't buy into that, I don't believe that. But a lot of people do believe that, it's an either/or kind of thing. There are significant resource limitations above and beyond the budget I mentioned earlier. Things like renewable energy sources, sometimes, are hard to find. Sourcing sustainable materials can be really difficult, not to mention human resources and talent acquisition can be very difficult. Complex global operations are challenging. Multinationals might face headwinds in implementing uniform sustainability standards across diverse regulatory environments, cultural norms, socio-economic situations. Further global supply chains are incredibly complex. Much more so than domestic organizations, and requires a great deal of collaboration to make this work. And, then, finally, in this area, I would say the greenwashing concerns, we kind of touched upon it earlier. But with the focus on sustainability, there is a risk of an organization engaging in greenwashing. Where they make misleading claims about the environmental benefits of their products or operations. Such practices can lead to reputational damage and loss of trust among stakeholders.  I know I've talked twice about greenwashing, but it is a huge problem. And it really is undermining a lot of the good efforts taking place in this area. So to help ensure long-term viability and success, I think it's important to develop a comprehensive strategy that aligns sustainability goals with the overall corporate purpose. Shari:             Listening to Tim, I'm reminded of a story that was shared with me a few years ago, now. It was my colleague in an agricultural company. And, of course, the questions came to them about carbon footprint, "Are you measuring greenhouse gases, et cetera?"  And, so, they started to do that measurement, the inventory, instituting their processes. And in doing that what they discovered is a huge waste of water because they were looking at how they produce and operate in a more holistic, as you say, totality.  And, so, in trying to quantify and measure their carbon footprint they ended up changing their entire system of water and reduced it by a lot. So they ended up having gains, by extension, to new streams of information, that they hadn't been looking at before. Tim:               It really is an exercise in navel-gazing, looking deep inside yourself, to actually do this stuff. And it's not an easy process, but that's a great example of where there are all kinds of benefits, well, and it's unintended benefits, from actually going through this process, and a lot of discovery takes place. You learn a lot about yourself. Adam:            It really sounds like you can learn a lot. And I think you've kind of illustrated, my last question was going to be around, how does this framework play a crucial role in ensuring effective governance, and rules, and internal control systems. Especially, concerning sustainable business practices, and what you just displayed there, Shari, for us, was a great example of that. And if there are any other examples you guys can share, I think that would be really helpful, and encouraging as people are thinking about this and looking at it. Because it's inevitable that it will be affecting every organization. Shari:             Yes, here's another example that I thought of, when you're getting more into the risk and the overall reasons, to think about sustainable business. But I do remember if you drive along highways now, how often do you see charging stations. In fact, I saw, not far from where I live, a former gas station had completely changed into an electric vehicle station. And I thought somebody else in that supply chain, if you create fuel pumps, you might want to think about changing that business model, and that's what the information can bring forward. Tim:               Yes, earlier I had mentioned that notion of a robust, risk, and materiality assessment. And just adding on to what Shari was saying, I had a conversation not long ago with a tire manufacturer. So they were doing deep dives and taking it very seriously. But they started understanding things that were hugely important and material, they'd never thought about before. For example, when you drive down the road, your tread wears out of your tire. You don't think about, "Where does that rubber go?" Maybe it goes in the atmosphere, it goes on the street, it goes on the side of the road. And suddenly, wow, they're materiality mapping and that process is hugely dynamic. The risk assessment is dynamic, and I think people are looking for that dynamic approach to these kinds of things. You can be an energy company just delivering electricity for a municipality, and suddenly you start getting into solar panels. And, suddenly, "Wow, we got new risk, where are they sourced? Where is this stuff coming from? What does that supply chain look like?" So a lot of interesting things that actually pop out of going through this process. And a lot of it leads to much better decisions and also uncovering important things and cost savings, it's all there. Adam:            Tim, Shari, do you have any final thoughts for our audience? Shari:             Well, as we wrap up, I want to just bring it back to why the internal control, and the COSO framework, and that publication, in thinking about all these new types of activities and new types of information, that has risk associated with it. And there are business risks, but there are also risks in the information. For example, we talk about supply chain, so in order to account for Scope 1, not Scope 1 because that's your data. But Scope 2 and Scope 3, you, by definition, need to get information that doesn't come from your system that you're responsible for, it has to come from a third party. So there's risk in that information. So we need to think about other controls. We need to think about affiliates, or other investees, or companies that we outsource to, that we used to consider immaterial for financial reporting purposes, but now we need their information. Green Bonds, is another, where we're affirming to our lender that we are in compliance with certain ESG metrics and then they lower our interest rate, that's informational risk.  We also have the risk of estimation and expectations, and how we measure prospective assumptions and leads to that kind of reporting. I think that's really huge because so much of sustainability reporting, including some of the mandatory disclosure requirements coming out of Europe, double materiality, impact accounting, it means estimating the future. That's what sustainability is all about. Do we have the resources made available to us in the future? Can we count on that?  Are stakeholders willing to make those available? So, anyway, it goes to the question of estimating the future, which makes many, in traditional accounting, uncomfortable. They don't like to disclose and report on the future and our assumptions. But that's a necessary part of creating the measurement techniques in order to effectuate all these new demands, for reporting all these new KPIs. What I'm saying is that by following what we already know how to do, By leveraging the frameworks that we already have, it can highlight and help direct us address the innovative areas, the information, the use of digital technology, perhaps, to bring this about in a reliable way, and avoid the greenwashing that Tim has highlighted for us. Tim:               Yes, I think the things that you talked about resonate with a lot of things we talked about earlier. Those things are all about long-term value creation. Shari:             Agreed, absolutely. Tim:               You got to be thinking about the future. And, also, one of the things that I see from the work you've done here and the internal controls of sustainability reporting. I think it's going to go a long way to helping with the notion of external assurance of this information. Because now we'll have internal controls in place that make some sense, that can be tested in and of themselves, it gives a lot more confidence in what's being reported. Because stakeholders are going to take some of this stuff with a grain of salt. Unless someone actually opines it, "Hey, wow, you know what they're telling you it seems accurate enough. It's doing what it's supposed to do."  I think that's going to be a huge underpinning for the document we've been discussing here. Because I think it's going to go a long way to enabling that. And unless you have that third-party attestation, the trust may not be there until we get to that point. I don't know, that's just my prediction. Adam:            Well, I appreciate you guys sharing your final thoughts and sharing all your insights with our audience, today. And thanks so much, again, for coming on the podcast. Shari:             Thanks so much, Adam. Tim, it's been a pleasure.  < Outro > Announcer:    This has been Count Me In, IMA's podcast, providing you with the latest perspectives of thought leaders, from the accounting and finance profession. If you like what you heard and you'd like to be counted in for more relevant accounting in finance education, visit IMA's website at www.imainet.org.

In this episode, Amanda Hsieh talks with Jeff Thomson and Shari Littan from the Institute of Management Accountants (IMA). Jeff led IMA for nearly 15 years, doubling membership and CMA certification holders while expanding globally to serve 140,000 members in 150 countries. Shari, Director of Corporate Reporting Research & Policy at IMA, is an innovator in accounting, corporate reporting, and business sustainability, driving thought leadership for IMA's members. Together, they discuss the crucial link between internal controls and sustainability for integrity and share a high-level overview of IMA's role in supporting accounting and finance professionals.  Much of their conversation focuses on the Committee of Sponsoring Organizations of the Treadway Commission (COSO) and its credible framework for internal controls for financial reporting which is the basis of the road map for internal controls for sustainability metrics.  Amanda also highlights the pending SEC climate disclosure rule and how COSO is exploring new supplemental guidance to help investors seeking trusted climate disclosures, with greenwashing remaining a significant concern. While COSO has been around for some time, the connective tissue to sustainability-related data and reporting is also generating excitement as it engages the next generation of accountants, even leading to the creation of new corporate roles such as ESG/Sustainability Controller.  Unlock the world of sustainability and join the ESG Decoded Podcast community! Make sure to subscribe to be notified of new episodes on your favorite streaming platforms, YouTube, and our social channels (linked below). Get ready for thrilling new episodes that will ignite your passion for positive change. Tune in, engage, and let's decode ESG together! Episode Resource Links Jeff's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreycthomson/  Shari's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shari-littan-58bb40114/  Register for the Executive Workshop: https://cvent.me/EMGgbD  About IMA: https://rebrand.ly/AboutIMA IMA Briefing: How Technology Can Revolutionize ESG Reporting: https://rebrand.ly/IMA-Briefing  COSO's Internal Control Framework and ESG: https://rebrand.ly/COSOArticle 

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