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In this episode of the PolicyViz Podcast, Cole Nussbaumer Knaflic joins me to discuss the evolution of her work in data storytelling—from corporate workshops to her newest venture into children's literature. We explore how the pandemic transformed training formats, the collaborative nature of her team, and the creative process behind her latest book, Daphne Draws Data. Cole reflects on the importance of introducing kids to the visual language of data early in life and shares how simple storytelling principles can empower learners of any age.Keywords: data, data visualization, flourish, graphic design, how to, information design, graphic design tutorials, graphic design portfolio, graphic design course, online learning, graphic design photoshop, graphic design trends 2024, how to draw, data scientist, Federica fragapane, accurat, AccessibilityInDesign, EngagingVisuals, Inspiration, DataNarratives, VisualizationDesign, InstagramPortfolio, BehancePortfolio, mathematics, Al, machine learningSubscribe to the PolicyViz Podcast wherever you get your podcasts.Become a patron of the PolicyViz Podcast for as little as a buck a monthCheck out Cole's latest book, Daphe Draws Data on Amazon or wherever you get your books!Follow me on Instagram, LinkedIn, Substack, Twitter, Website, YouTubeEmail: jon@policyviz.com

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin interviews Chris Maguire about his professional journey and what led him to focus on the intersection of legal, compliance, and innovation. This leads to a discussion about AI and predictive analytics. Chris shares examples of General Counsel and compliance offices using AI to improve risk forecasting and decision-making. Chris comments on the expanding role of Compliance in the General Counsel's office.   Listen to Chris's take on the importance of values. He shares some of the core values of Thomson Reuters.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:17] About this episode of RIMScast. We will talk about how technology is driving innovation in compliance, risk, and the legal profession, with Chris Maguire of Thomson Reuters. [:41] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Prep will be presented in conjunction with AFERM and led by instructor Joseph Mayo. This is a two-day course, June 2nd and 3rd. Register by May 26th. [1:02] The next RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Workshop will be presented in conjunction with NAIT on June 10th and 11th. Register by June 9th. That course will be led by former RIMS President, Nowell Seaman. [1:20] Links to these courses can be found on the Certification Page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:27] Virtual Workshops! On June 12th, Pat Saporito will host “Managing Data for ERM”, and she will return on June 26th to present the very popular new course, “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [1:45] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:56] We are already making preparations for the RIMS ERM Conference 2025 on November 17th and 18th in Seattle, Washington. RIMS is accepting educational session submissions through May 20th. [2:14] The best submissions will address current and future challenges facing ERM practitioners as well as provide leading practices and concrete takeaways for a diverse audience of risk professionals from industries or organizations of varied sizes, disciplines, functions, and roles. [2:30] These include officers, leaders, managers, and students. The link to the submission form is in this episode's show notes. If you are listening on the day of this episode's release, this is the last call for submissions, so get them in! [2:46] Let's get on with the show! How is your organization navigating regulatory uncertainty in 2025? Are you leveraging advancements in technology to help achieve your goals? Our guest this week is Chris Maguire, the General Manager for Corporates Risk at Thomson Reuters. [3:06] We are going to talk about how technology is driving innovation in compliance, risk, and legal. We will talk about how AI and predictive analytics are reshaping corporate legal and compliance functions, and more. Let's get to it! [3:22] Interview! Chris Maguire, welcome to RIMScast! [3:29] Chris Maguire started in a Big Four firm in the '90s, in the auto practice. It was a great way to learn business and how they worked, focusing on understanding financial controls and risk, and how to make sure that companies were behaving correctly. [3:59] After an MBA, Chris started working for Thomson Reuters. He has been with them for about 20 years in the legal tech space. He started on the strategy side and transitioned after several years to driving the commercial teams in the risk business. [4:24] Now, Chris has the role of looking at product and industry strategy for corporations. Thomson Reuters is at the intersection of legal, risk, and compliance, and how they affect enterprises. [5:07] Chris says that 20 years ago, AI was not a fast-moving industry. There have been dramatic changes in the last few years. AI adoption by Thomson Reuters customers has doubled in the last year. Generative AI has been seen in a wide range of tasks. It started with drafting NDAs. [5:38] Salespeople are always asking for NDAs and how they can be drafted more quickly and easily. Now AI conducts legal research or helps draft a research memo or a complaint from a particular point of view. We're seeing it in drafting HR employment policies and rote tasks. [6:21] Chris explains the use of AI prompts tied to data sources, such as your data, data from Thomson Reuters, or other data providers. Chris is also seeing big data AI used a lot in analyzing outside spending and looking for cost savings. [7:14] Chris tells how AI helps in decision-making, using the example of knowing the vendors you choose for your supply chain and knowing your customers. AI can weed through all the news out there to make sure you're not dealing with a sanctioned entity. [8:22] AI can help with reputation risk. Is there forced labor in your supply chain? That matters to your reputation. It's not just whether a country is sanctioned, but what the individual entities in your supply chain are doing. There's a lot of focus on reputation today. [9:10] Justin recently had the Chief Impact Officer of EcoVadis on RIMScast Episode 329. They talked about forced labor and human trafficking in the supply chain. Use AI to help identify where forced labor and human trafficking are big risks, avoid them, and report them. [9:35] This is important on the corporate side and the government side of the business. Chris says it will be interesting to see the effect of tariffs. Thomson Reuters has updated about 50 million changes to its global trade products so far this year, compared to 100 million in 2024. [10:16] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! We are back on May 22nd, with GRC, a TÜV SÜD Company, and their newest session, “Asset Valuations in 2025: Managing Tariffs, Inflation, and Rising Insurance Scrutiny”. [10:33] On June 5th, Zywave joins us to discuss “Today's Escalating Risk Trajectory: What's the Cause and What's the Solution?”. [10:413] On June 17th, Origami Risk returns to present “Strategic Risk Financing in an Unstable Economy: Leveraging Technology for Efficiency and Cost Reduction”. [10:54] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/Webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [11:05] Spencer Educational Foundation's Grants program is starting soon. Spencer's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved, in part, by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [11:23] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in General Grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. Spencer's 2026 application process is now open through July 30th, 2025. [11:43] General Grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's General Grants through the Programs tab of SpencerEd.org. [11:54] Back to the Conclusion of my Interview with Chris Maguire of Thomson Reuters!  [12:27] Chris refers to RIMScast Episode 335 with Jeff from Academy Sports. Jeff talked about how the Compliance function now sits in the General Counsel's office. At Thomson Reuters, more of the Compliance group has moved into the General Counsel's office in the last year. [12:48] The General Counsels are being charged with understanding the full weight of risk across an organization, from reputational risk to who you should or should not do business with. [13:16] The Sales organization at Thomson Reuters has discussed that a lot with the GC office, from a reputation, sanctions, and everything perspective. A lot of GC offices now include the Compliance role. [13:50] Chris's ERM philosophy is Trust. Companies need to trust who they are doing business with. Companies need to trust that their employees have what they need to make decisions not to deal with a risky customer, but to follow the laws and rules of global companies. It's trust. [14:29] There is so much change going on. Chris talks about values that resonate. One Thomson Reuters value is Act Fast, Learn Fast. You have to move and learn. Companies can help you, but it is on individuals to take the responsibility to act fast and learn fast about what is changing. [14:59] Thomson Reuters is bound by the Trust Principles. It started with Reuters in the 1940s around WWII, but it goes back to its 150 years of legal content. [15:17] The information Thomson Reuters provides its customers has to be free from bias. It has to be right. It has to be updated. It can't be an opinion about a philosophy. It has to be fact-based. It has to provide customers with the information they need to get work done. [15:36] Applying AI on top of trusted, unbiased, correct, up-to-date information is going to be vital, moving forward. Act fast, learn fast, and trust. [15:57] Chris believes the legal industry hasn't always been the fastest-moving industry. The technology is now there to allow us to move more quickly and learn more quickly. That's an exciting thing! [16:23] Chris says AI is no longer a future concept. It's here. It's transforming our lives; it's starting to transform our business environment. If you don't adapt quickly, you're going to be at a significant disadvantage. [16:36] For people in General Counsel's offices, people in compliance functions, the value is your expertise, your knowledge, and you as a human, and what you can bring to the situation. [16:48] If AI can help you get there, and give you a platform on which to add your judgment and expertise, knowledge, and professional opinion, that's a hugely valuable thing. [17:01] Thomson Reuters doesn't see AI taking away jobs. We see people who use AI, potentially taking away the jobs of people who don't use AI. It all comes back to the humans and how they use it. There's never been a time when Thomson Reuter's expertise has been more important. [17:34] Chris, it has been such a pleasure to have you here on RIMScast! I do appreciate that you listened to some previous episodes! Get my unique download count up there! [I7:50] I appreciate that we're reaching a very important segment of our audience and our RIMS membership. I think they're going to learn a lot in this episode. Thank you! [18:02] Special thanks to Chris Maguire for joining us here on RIMScast. Links to RIMS coverage about AI, legal, and compliance risks are in this episode's show notes.  [18:13] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [18:41] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [19:00] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [19:18 ] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [19:34] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [19:48] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [19:55] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Links: RIMS Texas Regional 2025 — August 3‒5 | Advance registration rates now open. 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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin interviews three RISKWORLD attendees at RISKWORLD 2025. They are first, Audrey Trim of Thomson Rivers University, second, Lucy Straker of Beazley, and third, François Beaume of Sonepar and AMRAE.   Audrey Trim shares information about her career and her experiences at RISKWORLD and on the Board at BC RIMS. She introduces the Second Annual Coast to Coast Risk Management Legacy Challenge for Canada and tells how student teams can compete.   Lucy Straker describes the growing risk of political violence and active assailant events, and what insurance products are needed on top of general liability. She offers strategies for preventing and mitigating violent events.   François Beaume presents the 17th Annual AMRAE RMIS Panorama, a survey of vendors and risk managers, with insights into the software and technology available to corporate risk teams. The Panorama and data sets are freely available online in French and English at the link below. Listen in for a glimpse of the variety of education at RISKWORLD. Be sure to save the dates May 3rd through the 6th for RISKWORLD 2026 in Philadelphia.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:16] About this episode of RIMScast, coming to you live from RISKWORLD 2025 in Chicago. There are so many topics and perspectives to cover! [:40] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! RIMS is co-hosting an intensive four-day program, which is your gateway to achieving two prestigious certifications, the DRI Certified Business Continuity Professional (CBCP) and the RIMS Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP). [:59] This workshop will be held from May 19th through the 22nd in collaboration with DRI International. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:14] Virtual Workshops! On June 12th, Pat Saporito will host “Managing Data for ERM”, and she will return on June 26th to present the very popular new course, “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [1:31] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:42] We're at RISKWORLD this week, but preparations are already underway for the RIMS ERM Conference 2025 on November 17th and 18th in Seattle, Washington. RIMS is accepting educational session submissions through May 20th. [2:00] The best submissions will address current and future challenges facing ERM practitioners as well as provide leading practices and concrete takeaways for a diverse audience of risk professionals from industries or organizations of varied sizes, disciplines, functions, and roles. [2:16] These include officers, leaders, managers, and students. The link to the submission form is in this episode's show notes. [2:26] Of course, mark your calendars for November 17th and 18th, and I'll be sure to alert you when registration opens. [2:34] RISKWORLD 2025 was one of the highlights of the 75th Anniversary of RIMS. We had a fantastic time here at McCormick Place in Chicago. We've got a lot of perspectives that we're going to cover! [2:47] Our first guest is the Responsible Use of Space Coordinator in the Risk Management Department of Thomson Rivers University in British Columbia and a Board Member of BC RIMS. She is making her RISKWORLD and RIMScast debut. [3:04] Audrey Trim is here to tell us about her experience as a first-time attendee and the 2025 Coast-to-Coast Risk Management Legacy Challenge, which was a big draw among the students at RIMS Canada 2024, and we expect that to possibly outdo itself in 2025. [3:24] You could sense the energy on the exhibit room floor on Day 1 of RISKWORLD. Let's get to it! [3:32] Interviews! Audrey Trim, welcome to RIMScast! [3:38] On RISKWORLD Day 1, Audrey enjoyed the Matha Stewart opening keynote. It was a great, inspirational show. Audrey has taken in some great sessions. She's looking forward to some educational seminars. This is Audrey's first RISKWORLD; it will not be her last! [4:57] Audrey explains her job title, Responsible Use of Space Coordinator. She oversees the non-academic space, among other things, on the Thomson Rivers University campus. She focuses on the best use of the space in a responsible way. [6:07] In earlier roles, Audrey worked on the 2014 Tim Hortons Brier in Kamloops and was an Event Coordinator for the City of Kamloops. She also coordinated a Buskers Festival. Then she fell into risk management, and she's loving it. [6:28] Audrey joined the Risk Group at Thomson Rivers three years ago. She became a BC RIMS member and now serves on the chapter board. Audrey is on the organizing committee of the Coast to Coast Risk Management Legacy Challenge, working with the SA RIMS Chapter. [7:01] This is the Second Annual Coast to Coast Risk Management Legacy Challenge for Canada. They will try to outdo the premier year. The Challenge involves students in teams of four from universities across Canada. [7:31] The teams get a case study and compete for the top two spots. The top two teams will get a chance to present their findings at the 2025 RIMS Canada Conference, which will be in Calgary, Alberta, from September 14th through 17th. [7:50] This year, Ken Letander, Case Study Champion, owner and Founder of Strat First Inc., a Canadian risk management firm, has chosen the case study topic: Reporting, Set Aside, Spend: Indigenous business joint venture, ethical dilemmas, and program integrity benefits. [8:15] It's going to be a big draw. Audrey hopes lots of teams apply. Ken Letander and others will judge the entries. [8:45] Audrey describes the passion and thought that went into the submissions to the 2024 Coast to Coast Challenge. The winning submission developed a tool to measure health equity across the province. The tool was given to the Fraser Health Authority to use day-to-day.  [9:35] The Coast to Coast Challenge is open to students across Canada. One of the members of the winning team last year changed her direction from business to risk management, because she had such a great experience at the conference and during the case study. [10:38] Apply to join the Coast to Coast Risk Management Legacy Challenge by May 24th. The case study will be assigned on May 30th. Each team submits a 10-page report. The judges will pick the top two teams to present at the RIMS Canada Conference 2025. [10:55] A link to the submissions page and contact information is in this episode's show notes. [11:16] Audrey's advice to anyone considering attending RISKWORLD 2026: “Know where you're going and how to get around the conference. Also, curate your sessions. There are a lot of options here. Pick out the ones that will have an impact on you and teach you something great.” [11:35] “There are so many networking opportunities. Take advantage of those. Get out there. Don't be afraid to try new things!” [11:39] RIMS Canada 2025 will be held from September 14th through 17th in Calgary. Registration will open soon. Audrey says, “Do it! The RIMS Canada Conference was a great opportunity to meet people and network!” [12:20] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! We are back on May 22nd, with GRC, a TÜV SÜD Company, and their newest session, “Asset Valuations in 2025: Managing Tariffs, Inflation, and Rising Insurance Scrutiny”. [12:36] On June 5th, Zywave joins us to discuss “Today's Escalating Risk Trajectory: What's the Cause and What's the Solution?” [12:47] On June 17th, Origami Risk returns to present “Strategic Risk Financing in an Unstable Economy: Leveraging Technology for Efficiency and Cost Reduction”. This session was rescheduled from May. If you were already registered, you do not need to take any action. [13:03] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/Webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [13:15] Spencer Educational Foundation's Grants program is starting soon. Spencer's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved, in part, by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [13:34] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in General Grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. Spencer's 2026 application process is now open through July 30th, 2025. [13:55] General Grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's General Grants through the Programs tab of SpencerEd.org. [14:05] On the 7th of October, the New Jersey RIMS Chapter will return to the beautiful Fiddler's Elbow Country Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, for their Annual Charity Golf/Pickleball Event. [14:18] Registration is open, and the event proceeds are used to fund the chapter's Spencer and Kids' Chance Scholarships. It was the filming location for the upcoming movie sequel, Happy Gilmore 2. For more information and to register, please NewJersey.RIMS.org. [14:42] My next guest was a panelist on several RIMS webinars. I was delighted to see her, so we could record this special segment live at RISKWORLD 2025. She is Lucy Straker. She is the focus group leader for U.S. Political Violence & Deadly Weapons Protection at Beazley. [15:00] We will talk about the trends she's seeing in her area of practice. [15:06] Lucy Straker, welcome to RIMScast!  [15:29] In 2016, Beazley looked at the landscape as it relates to terrorism and active assailant events and realized that traditional insurance options weren't providing sufficient solutions for its clients. Beazley created a product and a marketplace around active armed assailant events. [16:02] Lucy says what you see in the media is a fraction of what's happening. The media report the biggest and worst events. The risk is far higher than what is reported in the media. [16:31] Violence and shootings have increased. People are now more aware of the risk and are trying to respond to it through insurance products and legislation such as California's SB-553, with much more focus on preventing these events from occurring. [16:54] We want to avoid workplace violence before it becomes something. A lot of clients think they already have coverage for workplace violence in their traditional general liability insurance. [17:19] Recently, general liability carriers have put exclusions on their products for AMB, firearms, weapons, or the expected or intended injury exclusion found in a traditional ISA form. [17:38] Lucy says clients need to be aware that there is a potential coverage gap. A misconception among clients is that none of them think they will have a shooting. They're in denial. When there's a shooting, you hear, “I never thought it would happen to me!” [18:03] We're at a stage where gun violence is so prevalent in the U.S. that you can't argue you didn't think something was going to happen. You have to plan and prepare for the worst-case scenario. [18:28] Lucy advises risk leaders to buy coverage to help them cover the gap. They do not have to be alone. With most shootings, there is a warning sign. There is a trail. There are things to do to prevent it. [18:52] As a company, protocols have to be embedded from top-down and bottom-up. The company has to communicate every plan and procedure to its employees. Employees have to be trained and retrained. This is not something they're going to be thinking about every day. [19:09] You have to engage with your security team. You have to screen people. You have to screen the company. You have to create a culture of reporting. People are not going to report something unless they feel comfortable reporting it. You need to have anonymous reporting. [19:24] You need to instill a culture in your company of “See something, say something, report it.” It could be someone coming in and acting funny, or someone posting on social media, “I'm going to go carry out a shooting.” [19:46] More often than not, if someone's going down a path to violence, there are signs. They don't just wake up one morning and say they're going to go carry out a shooting. There are warning signs, and we want to catch them before it becomes something more material. [20:13] There are different lines of coverage and ways that coverage can respond, such as active assailant forms. Think about your business and other areas of your business you might not have thought about. Lucy mentions the United Health Care CEO being shot off the premises. [20:38] It was a targeted event. Were there warning signs online by Luigi, the perpetrator? How can you identify those threats? Make sure you have risk management and preventive measures in place. Think of the litigious landscape. We're now seeing more nuclear verdicts. [21:02] People always want someone to blame. You've got to make sure that, if something happens, you're doing right by the people to try and eliminate and reduce that liability on the back end. [21:15] RIMS Plug! The first of hopefully many RIMS Texas Regional Conferences will be held in San Antonio from August 4th through the 6th, 2025. This groundbreaking event is set to unite the Texas RIMS Chapters and welcome risk management professionals from around the world. [21:35] Guess what, folks! Registration is now open! The advance rate is available through May 16th. A link is in this episode's show notes. You can also visit the Events page of RIMS.org to register. We look forward to seeing you in Texas! [21:51] Let's Move to My Final Guest, François Beaume, The SVP for Risks and Insurance at Sonepar and the VP of AMRAE (The Association for Corporate Risk and Insurance Management)! [22:16] François Beaume is here to discuss the findings of the 17th Edition of the RMIS Panorama that AMRAE produces in association with and with the support of several groups, including RIMS. [22:36] François Beaume, welcome back to RIMScast! [23:02] AMRAE has the 17th Annual Edition of the RMIS Panorama available. In 17 years, the most significant evolution in risk management information system offerings has been the integration of advanced technologies like AI, automation, and data visualization. [23:57] These add-ons transform the software from a pure data management tool to a much more sophisticated platform that provides productive analyses and real-time risk monitoring to enhance decision-making capabilities and processes in a wider scope of topics. [24:40] Panorama is a collection of surveys. One survey focuses on vendors and one survey focuses on risk managers. François says there is still room for improvement in this solution. Progress has been made on flexibility and integration capability, with changes to come. [25:12] François sees a need to guarantee the success of such solutions, train users, and provide support to users to streamline how they use the system. Vendors receive feedback to provide customizable solutions, enhanced integration capability, training, user clubs, and more. [26:07] Interconnection is a key area of these tools. With APIs, modular architecture, and code-based solutions, more and more, these tools can connect with other risk management information systems. Some corporations have several risk management systems. [26:45] There are more and more interconnected features in these systems, to allow the risk manager and all the teams involved in the use of the risk management programatics to extract the most important benefits from the use of the tool. [27:04] ESG is a key area where this matters more and more. In Europe, there is a strong push for ESG compliance that requires corporations to gather and manage a huge volume of data that, when organized, is helpful to fuel the risk management processes. [27:33] The report evaluates 52 solutions in four functional categories, covering 17 functional modules and 14 technical modules to allow you to compare and assess the value of the solutions and if they are compatible with your company's technology for audit, risk, and more. [28:22] AMRAE is looking at the functional scope and the depth of the features that are offered. Is the scope well-covered? They are looking at technical capabilities; is it easy to integrate a solution? Is it scalable? How is the user interface? What can the admin customize? [28:45] AMRAE also gathers user feedback and testimonials from using a given tool in real life. That feedback provides robust data capabilities, seamless integration capabilities, and more user-friendly interfaces that will benefit the users of the tool. [29:36] RMIS vendors use AI in predictive analytics of historical data. Risk management is gathering and dealing with historical data linked to risk management topics to anticipate future risks. [29:59] Vendors use AI to automate workflows and streamline data from the field and validation from the stakeholders, reducing manual intervention and increasing confidence in the data quality. All data will be analyzed more easily with AI and integrated into interactive dashboards. [30:34] Dashboarding has improved over the past year to provide more interactive dashboards for better risk insights and risk decision-making processes. [31:10] François has advice for risk managers looking for RMIS software. His most valuable advice is to use the RMIS Panorama. It's freely available to anyone. You can get it in French or English. Besides the Panorama PDF, there is an online platform that allows customization. [31:48] The entire data set from the vendor and risk manager surveys is freely available online. You can customize your analytics of the data based on your use case. [32:32] François speaks of captives and the evolving reinsurance market. The market today is favorable toward captives, a powerful tool for improving corporate risk management and the way corporations are living with ESG. There is a strong push in Europe for captives. [33:22] François has seen the creation of about 20 captives in France. Corporations need captives in the risk management process and risk financing optimization. [34:00] Special thanks again to all of our guests and all of the RISKWORLD attendees who made this year's RISKWORLD Conference so very special. Links to RISKWORLD coverage are in this episode's show notes. [34:13] Mark your calendars for May 3rd through the 6th, and join us at RISKWORLD 2026 in Philadelphia. [34:20] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. 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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin and his guest, Jennifer Pack, RIMS 2025 Risk Manager of the Year, discuss her career and achievements, including Hyatt's VP of Risk Management. Jennifer describes how her membership in the RIMS Chicago Chapter and service on the Board impacted her career.   Jennifer helped align Hyatt's risk strategies with its evolving business model to ensure resilience in today's complex environment. Leading nearly 40 professionals, Jennifer's leadership and innovative risk solutions have helped strengthen Hyatt's risk management framework, to proactively identify risks and develop strategies to address them. Jennifer successfully redesigned and centralized Hyatt's Short-Term, Long-Term Disability, and Workers' Compensation programs, reducing manual processing by up to 80,000 hours, improving compliance, and reducing legal exposure. It is linked to millions of dollars in savings. Under her leadership, Hyatt's risk management team is overhauling Hyatt Hotels' fire safety with the first-of-its-kind Fire Life Safety Compliance and Governance Program, setting a standard for the organization and industry. The initiative includes the implementation of new technology, as well as auditing the 1,450 Hyatt hotels in 79 countries. Jennifer is a beloved mentor who has had an impact on many careers. She continues to demonstrate her commitment to advancing the risk management profession as an active member of the RIMS Chicago Chapter.   Jennifer's innovations may inspire your work for your organization's ERM program. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:16] About this episode of RIMScast. It is one of my favorite episodes to produce, with the Risk Manager of the Year. This year's honoree is Jennifer Pack, Hyatt's Vice President of Risk Management. We will talk about her success in ERM, captives, and more. [:48] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! RIMS is co-hosting an intensive four-day program which is your gateway to achieving two prestigious certifications, the DRI Certified Business Continuity Professional (CBCP) and the RIMS Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP). [1:08] This workshop will be held from May 19th through the 22nd in collaboration with DRI International. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:23] Virtual Workshops! On June 12th, Pat Saporito will host “Managing Data for ERM” and she will return on June 26th to present the very popular new course, “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [1:40] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:51] We're at RISKWORLD this week but preparations are already underway for the RIMS ERM Conference 2025 on November 17th and 18th in Seattle, Washington. RIMS is accepting educational session submissions through May 20th. [2:08] The best submissions will address current and future challenges facing ERM practitioners as well as provide leading practices and concrete takeaways for a diverse audience of risk professionals from industries or organizations of varied sizes, disciplines, functions, and roles. [2:26] These include officers, leaders, managers, and students. The link to the submission form is in this episode's show notes. [2:35] While you are at RISKWORLD, be sure to take away some inspirado and channel it into an educational session submission for the RIMS ERM Conference 2025. Of course, mark your calendars for November 17th and 18th and I'll be sure to alert you when registration opens. [2:55] The RIMS Risk Manager of the Year Program aims to raise the profile of the risk profession and the outstanding programs the honorees have implemented within their organizations. [3:04] The award was created in 1977 and the Risk Management Honor Roll was added in 1981. The 2025 RIMS Risk Manager of the Year is Jennifer Pack of Hyatt. [3:16] As VP of Risk Management, Jennifer has transformed risk management at Hyatt, embedding a culture that has provided a launchpad for organizational success. Her innovations in captive management also earned her this award. [3:28] Jennifer is a long-standing member of the RIMS Chicago Chapter and an all-around fantastic professional. Her profile will soon appear in the Awards Edition of RIMS Risk Management magazine. [3:40] Jennifer will receive the award on May 5th at 4:00 p.m., on the main stage at RISKWORLD. We're going to get to know her a little bit now. We'll talk ERM, captives, Chicago RIMS, hotel and hospitality, and more. [3:57] Interview! RIMS 2025 Risk Manager of the Year, Jennifer Pack, welcome to RIMScast!  [4:34] Jennifer has been at Hyatt, for going on 18 years. She can stay at any hotel she would like! [5:03] Some people like to leave their jobs every few years for a new company and skills. Jennifer's career at Hyatt has been an adventure! She hasn't been doing the same thing for 18 years. Every couple of years, she gets new roles and responsibilities. She's constantly learning. [5:24] She has a foundation of knowing whom to go to, what the systems are, and how to get things done. There's a base familiarity but with some excitement and learning opportunities. [5:36] If the feeling of being able to learn and grow ever stops, Jennifer will think about leaving. She's enjoying her time. It seems like she's working or a new company all the time. They're transforming. They're changing. The risk landscape is changing. There's never a dull moment. [5:56] Justin feels the same way about working at RIMS! He started as a writer but then got these responsibilities and they took on sort of a life of their own and attracted more of an audience. It's more work, but it's more fun and rewarding. [6:25] Jennifer joined Hyatt in a group called Compliance and Controls. She was hired to set up their Sarbanes-Oxley department. In reaction to the financial crisis after the downfall of Arthur Andersen and Enron, Sarbanes-Oxley was born and Jennifer became an expert on it. [6:58] Jennifer launched that group and then it was moved into Internal Audit where they were exposed to a lot more people and systems. Jennifer had the opportunity to backfill someone in the Risk Management department and never left. She's been in the risk function for 15 years. [7:30] When Jennifer joined the risk group it had seven risk practitioners in the corporate office. There were five or six Occupational Health Managers in the field, helping with Workers' Compensation and occupational safety. There are over 35 full-time members now. [8:09] They've taken on new roles in the 15 years: physical security, business resilience, fire life safety compliance, and other health and safety functions in the company. They could probably use a few more people but they're doing well. [8:38] The risk profile of the company has changed. The geopolitical risk profile of the world has changed. Hyatt's offerings have changed. They used to be mostly business, group, and convention, and now they lean into leisure, travel, and all-inclusive, which have different risks. [9:16] Hyatt has tripled its resort rooms and quintupled its lifestyle rooms since 2017. A lifestyle room is about meeting clientele where they are. Millennials want to travel the world and experience the environment, such as an attached nightclub in Miami or New York. [9:55] They're unconventional hotels with the framework of a well-known brand, where guests have comfort, safety, security, cybersecurity, and loyalty points while feeling like they're in a niche hotel with great and different experiences. It feels like a boutique, attached to the brand. [11:06] Social inflation is a risk. Liability insurance has gone up because claim payouts have gone up tremendously. Claim attorneys are targeting hospitality. [12:12] Hyatt is thinking globally about health, safety, and security, making sure policies are locked down, training is locked down, and people know how to report an incident, and when to report it. How do you de-escalate an incident to win the guest back? [12:36] Saying, “I'm sorry that happened to you. Here are some points. We care about you,” reinforcing that, versus saying, “Let my insurance company deal with it.” That's the last thing we want. If our guests had a bad incident, they had a bad experience. [12:51] Especially if you're traveling on leisure with your family, you want to know that you'll be taken care of. There's an expectation that you're going to be safe and secure. Hyatt wants to make sure to bring the level of care to them that they deserve. [13:07] Hyatt is working on the front end to retrain employees on ramping up safety and security measures and knowing how to respond when an incident happens. [13:18] Then, if it gets into the claims section, the claims management team has new robust processes to manage claims to drive down exposure. On the insurance procurement side, Hyatt is leaning into its captive to take on much higher retention in-house. [14:09] Hyatt is asking leadership in the field to bring education and awareness to the importance of risk management, what's at risk, and what the current legal environment is, and overlay that with wanting to care for people. Hyatt cares about the guest experience. [14:43] This is a macro-level environment. If you have litigation system abuse across the country, what are insurers doing about it? What are brokers doing about it? What are corporations doing about it? [14:56] Jennifer gets with her peers in the hospitality industry, working in their respective associations, to address these issues at the state and federal levels, change laws, and push for tort reform and disclosures of litigation funding. [15:28] Hyatt has partnered with the American Lodging and Hospitality Association and is considering partnering with insurance companies. You can't just hope someone else will take care of the problem. It's a much bigger problem that we all need to address. [16:06] Justin points out that third-party litigation funding is one of the top initiatives and campaigns for RIMS this year. RIMS recently had the Legislative Summit in Washington, D.C., where third-party litigation funding was a top priority. It was a top RIMS talking point on the Hill. [16:38] Jennifer says Hyatt and the hospitality industry are in with RIMS on the issue of third-party litigation funding. If it continues, guests are going to have to pay more for a stay and for the experiences they want to have as rising risk costs are passed to the consumers. [17:04] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! We are back on May 22nd, with GRC, a TÜV SÜD Company, and their newest session, “Asset Valuations in 2025: Managing Tariffs, Inflation, and Rising Insurance Scrutiny”. [17:22] On May 29th, Origami Risk returns to present “Strategic Risk Financing in an Unstable Economy: Leveraging Technology for Efficiency and Cost Reduction”. On June 5th, Zywave joins us to discuss “Today's Escalating Risk Trajectory: What's the Cause and What's the Solution?” [17:44] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/Webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [17:55] Spencer's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved, in part, by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [18:16] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in General Grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. Spencer's 2026 application process is now open through July 30th, 2025. [18:36] General Grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's General Grants through the Programs tab of SpencerEd.org. [18:46] On the 7th of October, the New Jersey RIMS Chapter will return to the beautiful Fiddler's Elbow Country Club in Bedminster, New Jersey for their Annual Charity Golf/Pickleball Event. [18:59] Registration is open and the event proceeds are used to fund the chapter's Spencer and Kids' Chance Scholarships. It was the filming location for the upcoming movie sequel Happy Gilmore 2. For more information, and to register, please NewJersey.RIMS.org. [19:21] Let's Return to My Interview with RIMS 2025 Risk Manager of the Year, Jennifer Pack! [19:47] Hyatt put a captive in place in 2013. Back then, Hyatt had huge insurance cost swings year-on-year that they couldn't forecast. It created a lot of “noise” on the balance sheet. They originally put the captive in place to take away that noise and remove wild cost volatility. [20:38] Over time, Hyatt started to see success and build up a surplus they saw the value of a captive, especially as market conditions changed. They brought in additional forms of insurance coverage with traditional deductible buy-downs with workers' compensation and GL. [21:04] They started to see the surplus build up and they were able to give some of the surplus back to the participants and drive down their premium cost. [21:14] In the pandemic, the hospitality business came to a halt. Before the pandemic, Hyatt's average occupancy around the world was over 75%. In April 2020, it dropped to 6%. The owners of Hyatt were under extreme pressure. [21:43] Jennifer had an extra surplus in the captive and was able to give relief to the owners and to the company in that year and the next couple of years. Claim volume went down due to lower occupancy. Hyatt used some of that cash to fund large acquisitions. [22:19] That's when Hyatt saw social inflation in gaps in coverage. There was no coverage for a pandemic. Through the captive, Jennifer was able to offer that coverage to the owners. She offered wages and hours insurance to the owners. [22:48] Coming out of COVID-19, with the impact of social inflation, the captive took on larger line sizes and larger layers in its umbrella tower. They had some acquisitions in cyber. They bought the Apple Leisure Group. [23:36] In a lot of those services, Hyatt isn't providing the service but is almost like a travel agent, connecting you to the hotel, airline, or excursion. If there is an incident, the third party has the coverage. Hyatt has exposure for connecting you to the service. [24:01] Hyatt had to get creative with coverage for these new exposures, working with broker partners to fill those gaps. They did it largely with the captive, buying time until they could get a traditional product in place. [24:17] With the captive, Hyatt filled gaps, helped grow the business, and used it as a business enabler, providing cash, relief to owners, and coverage that may not have been commercially available, either to buy time or permanently fill a gap. It's been fun! [24:53] Jennifer regularly changes which hat she wears. As the captive President, she has to look at what Hyatt is doing to protect the captive and make sure it's adequately funded and complies with regulations. From a governance perspective, is Hyatt doing the right things? [25:21] Jennifer regularly brings in third-party experts to check the captive. Jennifer's decisions as President of the captive are through the lens of the captive and as the owner of this business, what they are doing to grow revenues, manage expenses, and keep an adequate surplus. [25:44] The captive doesn't run razor-thin. To have a forward-looking approach, it needs to have an adequate surplus, reserves, and cash in the captive. They're very conservative in protecting it. [26:06] From a corporate risk management perspective, when Hyatt needs to buy insurance, Jennifer asks, can we buy it from the captive? She sometimes has tough conversations with Hyatt about borrowing versus driving up investment income to protect everyone's interests. [26:37] Jennifer has to keep top-of-mind, which lens she's looking through, whether President of the Captive or Hyatt Vice President of Risk Management. She wears two hats, managing all the key stakeholders' needs and wants. [27:17] Some of the stakeholders are Hyatt, third-party owners, the corporation itself, and guests and colleagues with short-term and long-term disability and medical, adding value for the benefits team so they don't have to go to third parties for that insurance. [28:27] As the Captive President, Jennifer is looking at loss and expense ratios, reserve to operating ratios, surplus to premiums, and surplus to reserves, making sure that they're within the set ratios. They shoot for three to one. Anything above that number can go to participants. [29:09] They won't go below three to one so they are capitalized for future unexpected losses or to back up future business growth. Jennifer believes Hyatt is unique in having those ratios and guards in place. Jennifer is looking forward to future needs. [30:15] The captive evaluates from time to time whether to change the ratios to five to one or four to one. In the liability space, claims are growing. Some of the demands are wild and the settlements reached or not reached are eye-opening! [30:46] Jennifer explains the global risk management claims software that is now also used for incident reporting to the risk department. They look at data from all incidents and are seeing a trend and looking to what could come down the pike and new coverages they may need to offer. [31:44] The technology is supporting the department and overall risk management strategy. The captive is benefiting through better data on what's happening out there so they won't get blindsided by unusual trends that aren't yet seen in the claims. [32:19] Technology helps the captive to build out platforms to manage compliance, safety, and security in the environment. [32:28] The more data insights and comfort Jennifer has over the Health, Safety, and Security diagnostic at each property, region, and the globe, and overlays those with risk assessments Hyatt does, the more comfort she can get to take on more risks knowledgeably in the captive. [33:15] RIMS Plug! The first of hopefully many RIMS Texas Regional Conferences will be held in San Antonio from August 4th through the 6th, 2025. This groundbreaking event is set to unite the Texas RIMS Chapters and welcome risk management professionals from around the world. [33:34] Guess what, folks! Registration is now open! The advance rate is available through May 16th. A link is in this episode's show notes. You can also visit the Events page of RIMS.org to register. We look forward to seeing you in Texas! [33:50] Let's Conclude Our Interview with RIMS 2025 Risk Manager of the Year, Jennifer Pack! [34:04] Jennifer Pack is the RIMS Risk Manager of the Year 2025 and she has been such a wonderful guest. This episode is coming out the morning of the awards. We will see her onstage, for anyone who has the privilege of being there. [34:19] Jennifer is honored, excited, and a little nervous to be onstage at RISKWORLD for the award. A lot of the RIMS Chicago members will be there. Jennifer has a wonderful Chicago-based team that will be there. Jennifer's parents and her husband are coming. [36:26] Jennifer says moving up the ranks at Hyatt and RIMS Chicago has been a fun and wild ride! The growth in her career, switching from being a Public Accountant to Auditor to Risk Manager has been fun with a lot of learning. [36:54] Jennifer tries to lead and grow with optimism, fun, and humor. She's been able to grow and develop a team under her. It's been a really interesting 18-year adventure. [37:11] Once Jennifer was exposed to RIMS, it opened her eyes to the wealth of resources, friendship, collaboration, and knowledge-sharing. It's been such an excellent experience for her. She couldn't be prouder of the Chicago Chapter and the great things they do to develop talent.  [37:43] Jennifer says since COVID-19, it's been wonderful to see the number of people who attend the outings and forums. It's great to have such a great community and seeing them regularly is impactful. [38:06] Jennifer is Risk Manager of the Year. The Rising Star is Megan Smalter, who has had a wonderful time with the Chicago Chapter before moving to New York. In her role on the RIMS Chicago Chapter Board, and when she ran the Golf Outing, Jennifer has worked with Megan. [38:45] Julie Bean won the Heart of RIMS Award recently. Jennifer says it's great to have the bench of expertise of long-standing members in the Chicago Chapter. Jennifer learned from them personally and in professional settings. They're great for sharing ideas and working with. [39:36] Jennifer also mentioned Theresa Severson who was RIMS 2023 Risk Manager of the Year, with Kite Realty. There's a lot of talent and deep risk knowledge in the RIMS Chicago Chapter. There's a genuine camaraderie.  [40:30] Jennifer looks ahead to see companies leaning into the concept of full risk management philosophy. Risk management is so much more than just the insurance buyers. [40:45] Risk management is “How can we bring a risk management mindset to our enterprises? How can we be business enablers? How can we leverage the wealth of data and information that comes through our department to enable mindful growth in the business?” [41:05] It's “How can we help with ESG efforts, especially with the reporting? How can we mitigate risks to the company and not just to our financial tools of insurance? What can we do in loss prevention or mitigation?” [41:26] “What can we do in claims management with more expertise, as things heat up on the litigation side with social inflation and nuclear claims?” Jennifer sees Hyatt and other companies taking more risks in the captive's or balance sheet to offset what's happening.” [42:10] Risk managers are going to have to articulate that and bring solutions to the forefront of their companies. Jennifer is excited about the future. She's looking forward to launching and rolling out more technology solutions as Hyatt leverages all its data. [42:57] Jennifer knows her team can have a lot of positive impact on the organization and she's excited about it. [43:08] Special thanks and congratulations again to Jennifer Pack, the RIMS 2025 Risk Manager of the Year. A link to RISKWORLD coverage is in this episode's show notes via the Show Daily. [43:20] That will update this episode's show notes with a link to the RIMS Risk Management Magazine coverage in our special Awards Edition. More honorees from RISKWORLD will join us here on RIMScast soon. [43:35] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [44:03] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [44:21] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [44:38] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [44:55] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [45:09] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [45:17] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Links: RIMS Texas Regional 2025 — August 3‒5 | Advance registration rates now open. ERM Conference 2025 — Call for Submissions (Through May 20) RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Risk Management magazine RIMS Now The Strategic and Enterprise Risk Center Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates Press Release: “RIMS Risk Manager of the Year Goes to Hyatt's Jennifer Pack” RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “Asset Valuations in 2025: Managing Tariffs, Inflation, and Rising Insurance Scrutiny” | Sponsored by GRC, a TÜV SÜD Company | May 22, 2025 “Strategic Risk Financing in an Unstable Economy: Leveraging Technology for Efficiency and Cost Reduction” | Sponsored by Origami Risk | May 29, 2025 “Today's Escalating Risk Trajectory: What's the Cause & What's the Solution?” | Sponsored by Zywave | June 5, 2025   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: CBCP & RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Virtual Bootcamp: “Mastering Business Continuity & Risk Management” | May 19‒22, 2025 | In Collaboration with DRI International Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule “Managing Data for ERM” | June 12 | Instructor: Pat Saporito  “Generative AI for Risk Management” | June 26 | Instructor: Pat Saporito See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Risk and Leadership Patterns with Super Bowl Champion Ryan Harris” (RISKWORLD 2025 Keynote) “(Re)Humanizing Leadership in Risk Management with Holly Ransom” “Risk and Relatability with Rachel DeAlto” “RIMS Risk Manager of the Year, Steve Robles, Los Angeles County” (2024)   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “The New Reality of Risk Engineering: From Code Compliance to Resilience” | Sponsored by AXA XL (New!) “Change Management: AI's Role in Loss Control and Property Insurance” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Demystifying Multinational Fronting Insurance Programs” | Sponsored by Zurich “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” | Sponsored by Zurich “What Risk Managers Can Learn From School Shootings” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RIMS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring RIMS President Kristen Peed!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Jennifer Pack, VP of Global Risk Management, Hyatt Corporation   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin and his guest, Kirti Mutatkar, discuss Kirti's journey to become President & CEO of UnitedAg and President of HCAA. Kirti speaks of her master's degrees in microbiology and finance, and how they work together in healthcare risk. Justin and Kirti explore stress awareness and mental health awareness and how these issues are managed at UnitedAg. Kirti tells how she wove attention to compassion and empathy into the fabric of healthcare administration at UnitedAg, and what that means for the financial success of the organization. She notes the significant growth of UnitedAg under her leadership, and how the scientific method of experimentation played a major role in that growth.   Kirti shares her advice for leading healthcare with compassion, and the roles supervisors and managers can play in looking for tell-tale signs of mental health needs. Listen to Kirti's leadership wisdom that may work in your organization. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:14] Registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS, from May 4th through May 7th in Chicago, Illinois. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:25] After you register, visit your App Store, search for RIMS Events, and download the RIMS Events App. Select RISKWORLD 2025, load the show onto your phone, and start building your RISKWORLD itinerary! [:41] About this episode of RIMScast. We will talk about healthcare risk and mental health awareness with Kirti Mutatkar, CEO and President of United Ag and the President of the Health Care Administrators Association. We're going to get a unique risk philosophy, today. [1:13] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! RIMS is co-hosting an intensive four-day program which is your gateway to achieving two prestigious certifications, the DRI Certified Business Continuity Professional (CBCP) and the RIMS Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP). [1:33] This workshop will be held from May 19th through the 22nd in collaboration with DRI International. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:48] Virtual Workshops! On June 12th, Pat Saporito will host “Managing Data for ERM” and she will return on June 26th to present the very popular new course, “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [2:05] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:16] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, from May 4th through 7th in Chicago. The opening Keynote has been announced. It's official. Martha Stewart will kick things off in the Skyline Ballroom, on May 5th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [2:35] Also, remember that there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” and more! The links are in the show notes. [2:51] The Spencer Educational Foundation is having a Flash Sale for sponsorships at RISKWORLD! Sponsorship pricing has been reduced for the Spencer-CNA Pickleball Social on Saturday, May 3rd, and the Spencer-Gallagher Golf Tournament on Sunday, May 4th. [3:10] Sponsorships are still available for the Spencer-Sedgwick 5K Fun Run on Tuesday, May 6th. Visit Spencered.org/riskworld2025 to learn about these opportunities and more. Also, reach out to Spencer's Executive Director Megan Miller at MMiller@Spencered.org. [3:32] April is Stress Awareness Month and May is Mental Health Awareness Month. I wanted to get a fresh perspective through a risk management or risk-management-adjacent lens, which is why I reached out to today's guest. [3:49] Kirti Mutatkar is the President and CEO of UnitedAg in California and also the President, serving a two-year term, of the Health Care Administrators Association not for profit. [4:01] We will learn about her fascinating career journey and how leading with empathy has reduced turnover and retained value at UnitedAg. [4:10] Interview! Kirti Mutatkar, welcome to RIMScast!  [4:37] Kirti came to the U.S. to do her Master's when she was 20. She was going to study microbiology and do her PhD in genetics and biotech. Her circumstances changed and she explored getting an MBA. She got a Master's in finance. This was in Connecticut. [5:15] Kirti moved to California and looked for work. She applied at UnitedAg, to work for “a year or two.” Each year since then, UnitedAg has grown like crazy, with many innovations. Kirti has never felt that she has been there so long, she could do it in her sleep. [6:06] For Kirti, it's exciting every day to come to work. She was the CFO and transitioned  10 years ago to become the CEO. [6:25] Kirti was a member of HCAA for several years and is now President for a two-year term. The HCAA is very aligned with Kirti's thinking. She learns something with every conference she attends and every board meeting. [7:36] Kirti says, if everybody in the room feels it's their idea, and it's because of them we have succeeded, and you know you've played a role in that, that's success. [8:02] Kirti says a microbiologist, or any scientist, is constantly running experiments, and learning from experiments. Kirti says UnitedAg is a lab. HCAA is a lab. They're testing out things and trying to see what works and what does not work. [8:36] You understand the risks to the healthcare industry at a deeper level by doing experiments. You watch the results and you learn from them. You create feedback loops and grow. [8:53] Under Kirti's leadership, UnitedAg has tripled in size over the last couple of years, based on experimentation, learning, and adapting. That's what being a science student had taught her. [9:14] From the finance standpoint, in the position of impacting change, just looking at the financial statements and getting a quick picture of what's happening, was one of the best things Kirti could have done for herself in the role of CEO. [9:39] As a CEO, you have a strong CFO behind you. Understanding from a financial standpoint and a risk standpoint what that risk means to the financial, has been a big part of Kirti's success at UnitedAg. Her knowledge of science and finance works well for her organizations. [10:15] UnitedAg has around 110 employees. It has an underwriting department for its health plan. [10:45] Kirti believes her interest in the scientific method of testing hypotheses relating to the human side of risk and finance is what she brings to UnitedAg. [11:25] Kirti explains her upcoming plans for underwriting models for employer group risk and administrative costs. She is testing out opening the books, educating, and working with employer groups. [12:33] With Mental Health Awareness Month in May, Kirti discusses mental health in the agricultural community. She has been thinking of this since COVID-19. Ag workers did not have the choice of working from home. They were out in the fields. [13:15] There was a lot of uncertainty around what COVID-19 meant. In 2020, the need surfaced to provide some form of benefit for mental health. Culturally, in the ag industry, there is a stigma around mental health care. There is a lot of stress in production agriculture. [13:54] Kirti decided to run an experiment. She proposed to the board to use some of the innovation dollars set aside to offer a mental health benefit free of cost to all the members, with no copays and nothing going to the deductible, and doing it for one year. [14:28] It was a huge risk. They didn't look at the financial impact. They said, there's a need for mental health; let's do it for a year. They offered it and it became a huge impact. [14:56] A lot of people did seek out that benefit and used it. UnitedAg used Care Navigators to see what level of care a member's need was, and based on that need, provide that care. They found that some needed much care but more of the risk is in the early stages of need. [15:59] In the earlier stages, individuals may not realize they need care. Kirti stresses identifying the initial need for mental health care. Providing care initially can prevent chronic conditions. Not just for health plan cost, but from a human standpoint, you don't want that to go there. [16:33] UnitedAg spends a lot of time understanding mental health. Are you just having an anxious day today or are you having chronic anxiety? With the Chief Medical Officer, UnitedAg is spending time determining the tell-tale signs of anxiety to identify and help people with it. [16:59] Free access to mental health care, using Teladoc, Spring Health, other vendors, and the Member Advocacy Department at UnitedAg can be as simple as getting on a call and talking through anxiety, whether it's caused by environmental issues like flooding, or other stresses. [18:14] Kirti says UnitedAg is seeing anxiety around ICE deportations as labor is a big part of agriculture. There are a lot of people who come to work in the ag industry and then go back home. [18:39] Employees have anxiety over whether they will be there tomorrow. Employers have anxiety over whether they'll have access to labor tomorrow. [19:12] Uncertainty creates anxiety. The ups and downs of life create anxiety. [19:28] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! Zurich's webinar, “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” will be held on May 1st at 1:00 p.m. Eastern. Then RIMS takes a little break from webinars. [19:43] On May 22nd, webinars are back with GRC, a TÜV SÜD Company, and their newest session, “Asset Valuations in 2025: Managing Tariffs, Inflation, and Rising Insurance Scrutiny”. [19:55] On May 29th, Origami Risk returns to present “Strategic Risk Financing in an Unstable Economy: Leveraging Technology for Efficiency and Cost Reduction”. On June 5th, Zywave joins us to discuss “Today's Escalating Risk Trajectory: What's the Cause and What's the Solution?” [20:17] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/Webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [20:29] Spencer Educational Foundation will be present at RISKWORLD 2025. Spencer's Grants Program is starting soon. [20:38] Spencer's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved, in part, by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [20:51] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in General Grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. Spencer's 2026 application process will open on May 1st, 2025, and close on July 30th, 2025. [21:14] General Grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's General Grants through the Programs tab of SpencerEd.org. [21:25] On the 7th of October, the New Jersey RIMS Chapter will return to the beautiful Fiddler's Elbow Country Club in Bedminster, New Jersey for their Annual Charity Golf/Pickleball Event. [21:37] Registration is open and the event proceeds are used to fund the chapter's Spencer and Kids' Chance Scholarships. It was the filming location for the upcoming movie sequel Happy Gilmore 2. For more information, and to register, please NewJersey.RIMS.org. [21:59] Let's Return to My Interview with Kirti Mutatkar! [22:07] Justin remarks on Kirti leading with compassion and empathy. Both at HCAA and as CEO of UnitedAg, she puts humans at the center. People remind her it's a business, but she has found that using compassion and empathy has an impact on real numbers. [23:26] Kirti reminds people she has a degree in finance and is a businessperson. UnitedAg has tripled in size. It is a quarter-billion-dollar trust. Its admin costs are very low and its loss ratio is very low. It's done very well financially. [23:53] Kirti makes a decision based on the financial aspect of it and then fits in the compassion and empathy. Eventually, compassion has a big impact on the financial. Now at HCAA, people are looking at how compassion translates into numbers. UnitedAg is a perfect example of it. [24:52] Some people may want to look at it purely from a business standpoint. Kirti feels that adding compassion and empathy manages the risk factor and has a financial impact. It's better for your business than you think it is. It's not a fluff word, you can show it in numbers. [25:52] Kirti is part of the Claims Committee at UnitedAg. Appeals come in and they make decisions on what can or cannot be approved. There is legal representation, client representation, and financial representation. Kirti shares an example of a mental health appeal. [26:41] The appeal was denied and Kirti listened to the compliance and financial positions for why it was denied. She didn't feel right about it, and after the meeting, she reached out to the employer. Then she came back to the committee and asked them to rethink it. [27:34] The committee found a solution within the compliance needs, to approve the claim. In the future, that employer will be apt to renew with UnitedAg because trust was created and help was provided to the employee. It was a financial decision that started with compassion. [29:16] UnitedAG's customer retention is over 90%. That speaks for itself. [29:26] RIMS Plug! From Ryan Harris, upcoming Keynote on the Main Stage on May 6th at RISKWORLD 2025, “Greetings RIMS members and global risk professionals! I'm Ryan Harris, Champion of Super Bowl 50, best-selling author, and award-winning broadcaster. [29:46] “I'm thrilled to be your Main Stage Keynote for RISKWORLD 2025, where we will discuss the transformative five steps to building a championship team and leading to winning! You can learn more about me and my story by listening to RIMScast. [30:01] ”And more than anything, make sure to register for RISKWORLD 2025 by visiting RIMS.org/riskworld. I'm so thrilled to see you and I'm looking forward to us building together so that you can reach your greatest success!” [30:16] Thank you, again, Ryan. We look forward to seeing you at RISKWORLD 2025 on May 6th. A link to Ryan's episode of RIMScast, #325, is in this episode's show notes. Get a preview of the Super Bowl Champion and remember to register for RISKWORLD 2025. [30:33] Let's Return to the Conclusion of Our Interview with Kirti Mutatkar! [30:46] Kirti says that bringing mental health into the Enterprise Risk Management strategy starts with the HR department. UnitedAg does a lot of training around mental health. There are good products available, but just saying we have this product, as a check mark, is not enough. [31:16] Go deeper, listen to your members, and train your supervisors and managers to identify some of the tell-tale signs of needs and bring them forward. Kirti's Chief of Staff remarked to her that physical scars can be seen, but mental scars cannot be shown. [31:49] You have to go deeper to understand mental scars. Spread the word. Talk to your employees and HR teams. Be OK with someone getting emotional at work. Give them a safe space and a trusting environment. Everybody goes through anxiety and stress. [32:20] Providing a safe space does more than providing a program. Engaging, building relationships, and having a connection would be helpful. [32:35] As a CEO, Kirti's biggest takeaway is to maintain a connection with everybody. She tries to do that as much as possible. She goes to CEO lunches and roundtables and is constantly talking to people. You never know what someone will say or do that is a tell-tale sign of need. [33:06] Kirti's advice for risk management professionals is to go a little deeper. Don't take things at face value. Take a step back and ask what is the true problem. Go one or two layers deeper looking for the real issues. Understanding the issue is good from a risk standpoint. [33:50] Are there not enough mental health professionals or should we look at the model for how we provide care for people? [34:10] Kirti also has a podcast, This Is Ag!, available on Spotify and other podcast platforms. She loves podcasting! The reason behind it is relationship and connection. It's to tell people what ag is all about. This year's focus will be on the ground workers and telling their stories. [34:58] There is so much to learn from agriculture! A lot of things still happen with a handshake in agriculture. There's a lot of trust and a lot of relationship and connection. Kirti loves working in the industry. She's very grateful for that. [35:14] Kirti tells what she likes about leading a not-for-profit organization. She runs it as a business but the core of it is the mission it serves. HCAA serves the underserved and she is testing how compassion and empathy play a role in the process. [35:44] Special thanks again to Health Care Administrators Association President and UnitedAg President and CEO, Kirti Mutatkar. There is a link to her podcast, This Is Ag!, in this episode's show notes.b Let her know you heard her first on RIMScast. [36:02] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [36:30] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [36:48] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [37:06] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [37:22] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [37:36] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [37:44] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Links: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7 | Register today! Download the RIMS Events app! Spencer's RISKWORLD Events — Register or Sponsor! LAST CALL! RIMS Texas Regional 2025 — August 3‒5 | Advance registration rates now open. RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Risk Management magazine RIMS Now The Strategic and Enterprise Risk Center Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates This Is Ag! — Podcast, Hosted by Kirti Mutatkar RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “Understanding Third Party Litigation Funding” | Sponsored by Zurich | May 1, 2025 “Asset Valuations in 2025: Managing Tariffs, Inflation, and Rising Insurance Scrutiny” | Sponsored by GRC, a TÜV SÜD Company | May 22, 2025 “Strategic Risk Financing in an Unstable Economy: Leveraging Technology for Efficiency and Cost Reduction” | Sponsored by Origami Risk | May 29, 2025 “Today's Escalating Risk Trajectory: What's the Cause & What's the Solution?” | Sponsored by Zywave | June 5, 2025   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: CBCP & RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Virtual Bootcamp: “Mastering Business Continuity & Risk Management” | May 19‒22, 2025 | In Collaboration with DRI International Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule “Managing Data for ERM” | June 12 | Instructor: Pat Saporito  “Generative AI for Risk Management” | June 26 | Instructor: Pat Saporito See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Risk and Leadership Patterns with Super Bowl Champion Ryan Harris” (RISKWORLD 2025 Keynote) “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw” “National Nurses Week 2021: How COVID-19 Has Impacted the Nursing Profession with Dr. Sophia Thomas and Vicki Good” “Mental Health in the Workplace with Darcy Gruttadaro” (2021)   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Change Management: AI's Role in Loss Control and Property Insurance” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company (New!) “Demystifying Multinational Fronting Insurance Programs” | Sponsored by Zurich “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” | Sponsored by Zurich “What Risk Managers Can Learn From School Shootings” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring RIMS President Kristen Peed!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Kirti Mutatkar on LinkedIn Kirti Mutatkar, CEO and President of United Ag   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin and his guest, Tamieka Weeks, discuss highlights from her risk career and how she felt, pivoting from claims adjusting to risk management. Tamieka tells of her role at Southwire and how she helps the evolving risk and insurance group. Tamieka digs into challenges she has faced at Southwire and in the RIMS Atlanta Chapter, where she serves on the board as a past president. She tells how the Chapter survived and improved during COVID-19. Tamieka speaks of her instant love of risk management and the excitement of waking up each day not knowing what was coming next. Tamieka provides advice for rising professionals and tells how the RIMS Atlanta Chapter works with risk and insurance students. Listen to Tamieka's advice for you. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:15] Registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS, from May 4th through May 7th in Chicago, Illinois. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:26] After you register, visit your App Store, search for RIMS Events, and download the RIMS Events App. Select RISKWORLD 2025, load the show onto your phone, and start building your RISKWORLD itinerary! [:42] About this episode of RIMScast. Our guest is former RIMS Atlanta Chapter President, Tamieka Weeks. We will talk about her career journey and all the fantastic work she's done for the RIMS Atlanta Chapter. [1:07] In the spirit of National Electrical Safety Month, we will learn how she drives a culture of safety at Southwire. [1:15] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! RIMS is co-hosting an intensive four-day program which is your gateway to achieving two prestigious certifications, the DRI Certified Business Continuity Professional (CBCP) and the RIMS Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP). [1:34] This workshop will be held from May 19th through the 22nd in collaboration with DRI International. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:49] Virtual Workshops! On June 12th, Pat Saporito will host “Managing Data for ERM” and she will return on June 26th to present the very popular new course, “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [2:06] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:17] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, from May 4th through 7th in Chicago. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember that there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [2:35] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” and more! The links are in the show notes. [2:45] The Spencer Educational Foundation is having a Flash Sale for sponsorships at RISKWORLD! Sponsorship pricing has been reduced for the Spencer-CNA Pickleball Social on Saturday, May 3rd, and the Spencer-Gallagher Golf Tournament on Sunday, May 4th. [3:03] Sponsorships are still available for the Spencer-Sedgwick 5K Fun Run on Tuesday, May 6th. Visit Spencered.org/riskworld2025 to learn about these opportunities and more. Also, reach out to Spencer's Executive Director Megan Miller at MMiller@Spencered.org. [3:26] Our guest today is the Director of Global Risk Management and Insurance at Southwire Company in Georgia. She is also the former RIMS Atlanta Chapter President. Under her leadership, the chapter took home the RIMS 2022 Chapter of the Year Award at RISKWORLD. [3:46] She is Tamieka Weeks and I am so thrilled to finally get her on RIMScast to talk about her career journey, her work at Southwire, and what it was like to lead the RIMS Atlanta Chapter. [3:59] We will also talk about how Tamieka helps drive a culture of safety at Southwire, in the spirit of National Electrical Safety Month, coming up in May. [4:08] Interview! Tamieka Weeks, welcome to RIMScast!  [4:31] Tamieka Weeks started as a claims adjuster with a finance degree. Her career has been so different from many. Tamieka hopes all will take their journey for what it's worth and be proud of their accomplishments. [5:08] When someone approaches you with an opportunity, say Yes! Don't turn it down. You never know what doors may open. As a former claims adjuster, and now the Director of Global Risk Management and Insurance, she wants to have a relationship with the claims adjusters. [5:45] In a file review, Tamieka wants to know the why behind an insurance policy. She purchases a policy with the intent of protecting Southwire's assets. [6:29] Southwire is about an hour west of Atlanta, in Carrollton, Georgia. It is the leading manufacturer of wiring cable. Southwire will celebrate 75 years in March of 2030. Southwire is excited about where it is today and is looking forward to continuing to grow globally. [7:13] Tamieka knows to expect the unexpected and be able to pivot. She never knows what may come up in a day. She is open. She knows she is there to support the organization. [7:38] Tamieka is a trusted advisor and a subject matter expert within the organization. She prides herself on ensuring that everyone knows that she is here to support them. [7:54] Southwire has 9,000 employees. In November 2024, Southwire launched a risk management SharePoint site. It goes into risk management insurance definitions and surety bonds definitions. It's all about sharing the knowledge of the industry. [8:26] The SharePoint site also provides the claims reporting. Tamieka educates the employees on what to do when an incident occurs. The first thing is to report the claim to the TPA. If they have any questions, they can contact Tamieka. Tamieka is also responsible for surety bonds. [9:16] There is a checklist for property claims and those are reported to Tamieka. The instructions for what needs to happen on a property claim are on the SharePoint site. It's important to notify Tamieka so she can report the property claim. [9:32] It's all about everyone being aware of what needs to happen about an event. [9:41] Tamieka has been with Southwire for almost 12 years. She helped build the risk culture at Southwire. It's been a fun ride, for sure! [9:53] Tamieka partnered with several team members to develop the SharePoint site. It's been exciting for the organization. It was launched by the IT department and several others. Tamieka had spoken with risk professionals throughout the industry about what they were launching. [10:33] The beauty of the risk industry is that we don't have to reinvent the wheel. It's all about what we can do to enhance their organization through process improvement. [11:00] When Tamieka started with Southwire, she was busy administering certificates of insurance. The SharePoint site streamlines everything in a central location. People can see their insurance limits, request what they need, and submit information to their insurance brokers. [11:45] Tamieka's risk team of about 5 people reports to the General Counsel department. [12:27] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On April 24th, Riskonnect returns to deliver “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity.” Nonmembers can use the code BETTER50 at checkout for complimentary registration. [12:44] Zurich's webinar, “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” was rescheduled and will be held on May 1st at 1:00 p.m. Eastern. [12:52] If you were already registered for the original date, you do not need to take any action: You are now registered for the May 1st session with Zurich about “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding.” [13:04] On May 22nd, webinars are back with GRC, a TÜV SÜD Company, and their newest session, “Asset Valuations in 2025: Managing Tariffs, Inflation, and Rising Insurance Scrutiny”. [13:20] On June 5th, Zywave joins us to discuss “Today's Escalating Risk Trajectory: What's the Cause and What's the Solution?” We'll find out on June 5th! [13:31] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/Webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [13:43] There was a brief extension for educational session submissions for RIMS Canada, which will be held from September 14th through the 17th in Calgary. The link is in this episode's show notes. Visit RIMSCanadaConference.ca and submit your session by April 24th. [14:00] Let's Return to Our Interview with Former RIMS Atlanta Chapter President Tamieka Weeks! [14:18] When Tamieka joined risk management, she loved it instantly because it's continually evolving. The market and your company are evolving and you have to be able to embrace the change. There are always new risks and emerging risks. [14:43] Once, cyber risk was new. Now the new risk we're talking about is AI. Who knows what new risk we will be talking about in the next nine months to a year? To be in the risk management industry, you have to love it to wake up each day not knowing what to expect. [15:16] Tamiela says the meaningful relationships that we establish from day to day, month to month, and year to year are truly amazing. The industry is amazing, as well, from Atlanta to global. She is excited about RISKWORLD 2025 in Chicago. [15:43] RISKWORLD 2025 will be held from May 4th through May 7th, in Chicago, Illinois. [15:47] May is also National Electrical Safety Awareness Month in the U.S. Southwire is always focused on safety, with monthly training for team members. They focus on team members from entering the facilities to exiting the facilities. Safety is number one. [16:28] Southwire's Environmental Health and Safety Department strives for safety. Southwire recently completed Lockout/Tagout training, a safety procedure for properly shutting off equipment to ensure that no one is accidentally injured if machinery is being serviced. [17:01] Tamieka says labeling is placed on Southwire wires and cables to ensure the customers are aware of how to use the products. Customers can also download information on the safe use of Southwire products. This is part of Southwire's Environmental Health and Safety efforts. [17:43] RIMS Plug! From Ryan Harris, upcoming Keynote on the Main Stage on May 6th at RISKWORLD 2025, “Greetings RIMS members and global risk professionals! I'm Ryan Harris, Champion of Super Bowl 50, best-selling author, and award-winning broadcaster. [18:02] “I'm thrilled to be your Main Stage Keynote for RISKWORLD 2025, where we will discuss the transformative five steps to building a championship team and leading to win! You can learn more about me and my story by listening to RIMScast. [18:18] ”And more than anything, make sure to register for RISKWORLD 2025 by visiting RIMS.org/riskworld. I'm so thrilled to see you and I'm looking forward to us building together so that you can reach your greatest success!” [18:33] Thank you, again, Ryan. We look forward to seeing you at RISKWORLD 2025 on May 6th. A link to Ryan's episode of RIMScast, #325, is in this episode's show notes. Get a preview of the Super Bowl Champion and remember to register for RISKWORLD 2025. [18:49] Let's Return to the Conclusion of Our Interview with Tamieka Weeks! [19:10] Tamieka describes practicing risk management in the greater Atlanta area. She says it's all about the people and the risk management community. Everybody just loves everybody! It's Southern hospitality. When she joined the Atlanta RIMS Chapter, it was very welcoming. [19:34] When Tamieka joined the board, the board members saw so much potential in her. They assured her she could do this. Tamieka says Atlanta is the land of opportunity. Tamieka joined the chapter in 2013. She became the first Black female President of the Atlanta Chapter. [20:38] Tamieka became Chapter President during COVID-19. Her thoughts were about what she could do to make the organization better and what she could do for succession planning. [20:59] Members were at home. Tamieka connected with the previous presidents and prior board members. No one was in person. Tamieka asked the previous officers for their notes. They were happy to talk and share ideas to make the chapter succeed. [22:02] That moment was more about the Chapter and less about Tamieka. Tamieka built committees and sent surveys. Tamieka wanted to hear what the members had to say. She gave the board and members a voice. It was a fun time, working to make the chapter better. [22:44] The feedback from past presidents was the foundation to win 2022 Chapter of the Year! Their ability and willingness to help Tamieka in her role made the RIMS Atlanta Chapter special. [23:33] The chapter had a virtual social hour with a mixologist. They had a virtual trivia game. They had a virtual mentor event. They raised money at a Virtual Aid Conference. They were creative in everything they did. They were able to connect with members in a challenging time. [24:20] The surveys were critical. They partnered with global RIMS to enhance their bylaws. The new bylaws permitted the board to meet virtually. They changed their chapter website. They made many improvements to the chapter's success. [24:58] In 2025, Tamieka received the Walter H. Buce Jr. Memorial Award which honors the insurance and risk management professional of the year in the RIMS Atlanta Chapter. Tamieka calls the award overwhelming. She is deeply honored. It means the world to her. [26:04] Tamieka's advice for young risk professionals: “Stay focused. When others see potential in you, listen to them. Don't shy away. Work hard. Set clear goals. Trust in yourself. Stay dedicated. Be persistent. Be intentional. Your path will eventually reveal itself. [29:29] “You're going to have people around you that are going to be your cheerleaders. Please find a mentor. They're going to support you along the way. In Atlanta, I would also say we have focused on bridging the gap of rising risk professionals and students entering the industry.” [27:08] “The RIMS Atlanta Chapter has embraced what we can do to help and support the young professionals who are focused on entering the industry soon. That's been a huge success for the RIMS Atlanta Chapter, as well.” [27:28] Tamieka Weeks, It's such a pleasure to see you again. I look forward to seeing you after this episode comes out, at RISKWORLD 2025 in Chicago. Tamieka is looking forward to seeing everyone, It's going to be a great RISKWORLD! [27:46] Special thanks again to former RIMS Atlanta Chapter President and Walter Buce Award Winner, Tamieka Weeks for joining us here on RIMScast! Learn more about her and the chapter's fantastic work through the link in this episode's show notes. Of course, visit AtlantaRIMS.org. [28:05] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [28:32] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [28:50] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [29:08] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [29:24] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [29:38] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [29:46] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Links: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7 | Register today! Download the RIMS Events app! Spencer's RISKWORLD Events — Register or Sponsor! RIMS Texas Regional 2025 — August 3‒5 | Advance registration rates now open. RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Risk Management magazine RIMS Now The Strategic and Enterprise Risk Center Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates Submit a session to RIMS Canada 2025 — Final Deadline April 24. 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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin and his guest, Jeff Strege, Senior Director for Risk Management at Academy Sports + Outdoors, explore what led Jeff to risk management, and the path that led to Academy Sports + Outdoors within the sporting goods and outdoor retail space. Jeff comments on his work building out the ERM framework at Academy to improve claims management, employee safety, and liability prevention. Jeff shares his approach to workers' compensation and Academy Sports + Outdoors's goal to help the workers recover and return to work. In addition to career insights, they discuss Jeff's upcoming panel participation in HUB's webinar on April 17th, “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach,” covering topics such as third-party litigation funding and its impact on the industry.   Listen to Jeff's wisdom, born from experience, on managing your risk career. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:14] Registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS, from May 4th through May 7th in Chicago, Illinois. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:25] After you register, visit your App Store, search for RIMS Events, and download the RIMS Events App. Select RISKWORLD 2025, load the show onto your phone, and start building your RISKWORLD itinerary! [:41] About this episode of RIMScast. Our guest is former RIMS Houston Chapter President, Jeff Strege. We will talk about his career and how ERM continues to play a pivotal role today. [1:08] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! As part of RIMS's continuing strategic partnership with Purima, we have a two-day course coming up on April 22nd and 23rd. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:28] Virtual Workshops! On June 12th, Pat Saporito will host “Managing Data for ERM” and will return on June 26th to present the very popular new course, “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [1:45] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:56] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, from May 4th through 7th in Chicago. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember that there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [2:14] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” “Contractual Risk Transfer,” “Fundamentals of Insurance,” “Fundamentals of Risk Management,” RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep, and more! The links are in the show notes. [2:33] The Spencer Educational Foundation is having a Flash Sale for sponsorships at RISKWORLD! Sponsorship pricing has been reduced for the Spencer-CNA Pickleball Social on Saturday, May 3rd, and the Spencer-Gallagher Golf Tournament on Sunday, May 4th. [2:51] Sponsorships are still available for the Spencer-Sedgwick 5K Fun Run on Tuesday, May 6th. Visit Spencered.org/riskworld2025 to learn about these opportunities and more. Also, reach out to Spencer's Executive Director Megan Miller at MMiller@Spencered.org. [3:13] Our guest today is Jeff Strege. He is the Senior Director for Risk Management at Academy Sports + Outdoors. Academy is one of the U.S.'s largest sporting goods and outdoor stores with 301 locations across 21 states, as of March 2025. [3:33] Jeff is also a long-time RIMS member. He's the former president of the RIMS Houston Chapter and is a RIMS-CRMP holder. [3:41] In addition to his outstanding resume, Jeff will be lending his insight to the RIMS Webinar on April 17th, presented by HUB in their Ready for Tomorrow series. It's called “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach.” A link is in the notes. [4:01] In today's RIMScast interview, we will discuss how ERM has played a role in his career and how he manages risk in so many locations at the Academy. We will get a preview of his upcoming appearance on the Hub webinar and his thoughts on third-party litigation funding and its impact. [4:27] Interview! Jeff Strege, welcome to RIMScast! [4:45] As a Houstonian, Jeff grew up with Academy Sports + Outdoors. He's a long-term customer. In September 2020, Jeff promoted himself from customer to team member, although he still is an avid customer of Academy. [5:07] As the Academy brand is so well-known and beloved in Texas, Jeff has had the Risk Director role on his radar for many years. He had told his wife many times that if that role ever opened up at Academy, he would want to talk to them. In mid-2020, it did, and here he is! [5:29] Academy has 301 stores across 21 states as of March 7, 2025, and is headquartered in Katy, Texas, a Western suburb of Houston. Jeff graduated from Katy High School. [6:23] Academy Sports + Outdoors sells fun. They say “Have fun out there.” The items Academy sells are intended to help people be outdoors and active. Academy does a lot of work around product safety with manufacturers and suppliers, making sure they're sourcing safe products. [6:45] Academy Sports + Outdoors sells firearms and ammunition. Its goal is to be the most responsible retailer of those items in the country. [7:13] Academy Sports is responsible for following the laws of 21 states. Jeff has worked for national, multi-national, and global organizations, so he has worked with similar requirements. [7:48] Jeff worked for Sysco twice, first in the 90s and then in 2016 in a risk role similar to his current role at Academy Sports. Sysco went on a growth initiative while Jeff was there the second time and it was fun to be part of that but he couldn't pass up the opening at Academy. [8:23] Academy Sports + Outdoors has a risk department of 10 who report to Jeff. Jeff oversees the Enterprise Risk Management framework, the Insurance and Data Analytic functions, the Safety functions, and the Claim Management functions. [8:50] Jeff has three direct reports and they have functional contributors who are assigned to and report to them. Jeff's management style is to find the best possible people he can find. He's not a micro-manager. All of his staff are solid professionals who are good at what they do. [9:14] That allows Jeff to focus on strategy and executing strategic objectives while the staff keeps things working from day to day. Jeff reports to the General Counsel. In other companies, Jeff has reported to the General Counsel, HR, Treasury, or Finance. [9:42] Risk can logically report up a variety of chains to the leadership of an organization, as it touches so many aspects of the business. [10:22] Relative to firearms sales, Academy Sports has a compliance team to manage the process. They do an outstanding job. [10:39] When Jeff arrived at Academy Sports, one of his charges was to mature the ERM framework across the various organizational functions. Having the opportunity to work on that made Jeff a student of the business, which is one of the Academy's values. [11:09] Coming into the business, Jeff was fortunate to receive a safety culture already well-entrenched in the distribution centers. That team has been retooled over the years and continues to evolve as it trains and supports the operators in safe practices in their work. [11:45] Academy workers' compensation goal is to help team members recover so they can come back to work. They take a deliberate approach to working with them so they get the treatment they need, their benefits are paid timely, and their questions are answered. [12:11] Academy made a TPA change a couple of years ago that's given them more proactive tools. Both safety and claims are processes that Academy Sports continues to fine-tune. [12:25] The foundational strategy is “safety first.” If you're talking about managing claims but not about safety, there's a miss there, in terms of managing risk. [13:01] Plug Time! During this interview, we discuss the RIMS Texas Regional Conference 2025, held from August 4th through the 6th in San Antonio, Texas, at the Henry  B. Gonzalez Convention Center. That's where we held RISKWORLD 2018. [13:22] The day of this episode's release, April 15th, is the day registration opens for the RIMS Texas Regional Conference. You can get the Advance Rate from now through May 16th, 2025. A link is in this episode's show notes. You can also visit the events page of RIMS.org to register. [13:43] If you will be in the Dallas/Fort Worth area on April 17th, be sure to stop by Lonestar Park for DFW RIMS's 7th Annual Night at the Races. It will be a blast! Guest, Member, and Student tickets are available. Visit DFWRIMS.org and the link in this episode's show notes. [14:12] Let's Return to My Interview with Former RIMS Houston Chapter President Jeff Strege! [14:32] Jeff arrived at Academy Sports on Monday, September 28, 2020, and the company executed its Initial Public Offering on Friday, October 2nd, 2020. In preparing for the IPO, the company had built an ERM framework that helped inform the prospectus for investors. [14:59] When Jeff joined, he was charged with taking the framework foundation and building upon it to round out how Academy Sports views risk, scopes it, and manages it across the organization. It was a fascinating process. [15:21] He's gotten to know many good, smart people who are driving aspects of the business. [15:28] Every year, Academy Sports looks at ways to enhance the framework, to make sure it's as meaningful and informative to the leadership team and board as it can be. [15:54] The framework looks at ISO standards but most of it is inward-focused within the business of Academy Sports. What's going on in the world? How do we prevent or prepare for it? Should something occur, what strategies do we have to respond, react to, and recover from it? [16:39] Before the recent tariffs were passed, the risk team had discussed tariffs generically. Tariffs appear as subsidiary risks in a few places within the framework. Nobody in an organization can control what government leaders do. [17:22] In a way, sporting goods is a seasonal industry. Academy Sports + Outdoors sells a variety of different things and operates in a variety of climates. There's a holiday season and there are gift-giving holidays. The seasons for outdoor activities differ depending on location. [17:54] In Texas, Jeff grills and fishes year-round. It's different in a Northern climate with four distinct seasons. Hunting seasons are specifically defined. The things Academy Sports sells peak at different times of the year and the peaks sort of offset themselves. [18:25] The Academy Sports merchandising teams are diligent and deliberate in how they plan for cycling products for the seasons. [18:44] Holiday is the big season. In that, Academy Sports is like other retailers. Back-to-school time is also important. [18:57] The backyard grilling is Jeff's favorite section of the store. When he goes into the store with his wife he has to look at some grills. Jeff also works out and runs so there are several aspects of the store that he shops. [19:16] Academy sells location-specific licensed apparel. In Academy Sports + Outdoors in Houston, there is gear for the Astros, Texans, and Rockets. [19:49] From the standpoint of team member safety, Jeff refers to OSHA. Also, some states have more stringent safety requirements. Jeff's safety team drives consistency of practices and training across the footprint of the 21 states where Academy Sports + Outdoors operates. [20:36] Most of Jeff's work is done in Houston but his team gets out in the field periodically on a schedule. Jeff likes to go into the stores and distribution centers. That's where the business occurs. The work at Corporate supports the people who serve and interact with customers. [21:10] RIMS Webinars! Following the success of their recent webinar, HUB International returns for the next installment of their Ready for Tomorrow Series, “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach”. That session will be on April 17th. [21:29] Today's guest, Jeff Strege, is a panelist in that session! He's going to talk about it a little bit right after the break. [21:38] On April 24th, RiskConnect returns to deliver “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity”. [21:45] Zurich's webinar, “Understanding Third Party Litigation Funding” was rescheduled to May 1st at 1:00 p.m. Eastern. If you were already registered for the original date, you are now registered for the May 1st session with Zurich. [22:09] On May 22nd, GRC, a TÜV SÜD Company, presents their newest session, “Asset Valuations in 2025: Managing Tariffs, Inflation, and Rising Insurance Scrutiny”. [22:22] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [22:33] Let's Return to my Interview with Jeff Strege! [22:46] Jeff will be joining RIMS on the HUB webinar about third-party litigation funding (TPLF) on April 17th, two days after the airing of this episode. Third-party litigation funding is a major issue for RIMS and the profession. [23:08] Academy Sports + Outdoors sees TPLF from time to time in litigated matters, but not often. The HUB webinar is largely focused on rising litigation costs and the rising value of litigated matters. Third-party funding is a driving force of that rise. [23:35] When there's a funding mechanism behind the damages claim by a plaintiff, there are interest obligations with that mechanism, which can be stiff. It does inflate the value of some matters. [24:13] Once Academy Sports + Outdoors learns third-party funding is present in a litigated matter, that's in the front of mind as they evaluate and proceed with trying to conclude the case. [24:32] In the HUB webinar on April 17th, Jeff will be discussing the client's experience, not only with TPFL but also around social engineering. There is a good panel put together for this discussion with varied perspectives that will offer a well-rounded conversation. [24:55] Panelist Bob Tyson of Tyson & Mendes, a defense lawyer in California, has creative approaches to managing and negotiating litigated cases. Panelist John Ferguson, Head of Excess Casualty at Zurich Insurance, brings an insurer's perspective to the webinar. [25:29] Panelist Carol Murphy of HUB is one of the best brokers Jeff has worked with. Jeff is looking forward to sharing the stage with this group, talking about managing claims litigation, prevention, and pre-litigation management. Safety is critical. Jeff will bring that up. [26:02] The link to the webinar is in the show notes. Register today! Registration is complimentary for RIMS members! You'll hear this webinar live with Jeff Strege of Academy Sports, Fred Ferguson of Zurich, Bob Tyson of Tyson & Mendes, and Carol Murphy of HUB. [26:34] Jeff has been involved with RIMS since the mid-1990s when he was with Sysco Foods for the first time and was elevated to the risk management role there. Starting with Houston, Jeff has been involved in various chapters in various capacities. [27:07] RIMS has been an important part of Jeff's career. He's gained solid relationships through RIMS that have yielded business relationships and relationships where he's been able to help others and be helped by them. RIMS will be very important to him as long as he works in risk. [27:51] Jeff was President of RIMS Houston for two years, until January of 2024. He serves on the board as Past President. [28:12] Having moved around the country and having held different roles, Jeff has met risk professionals from many areas. He says RIMS has high-quality chapters all over the country. The four Texas RIMS chapters have a lot of positive energy. [28:47] The chapters are working together with Justin's team in New York to host the first-ever Texas RIMS Regional Conference this August. Jeff is on the planning committee and he's excited about it. [29:04] The RIMS Texas Regional Conference will be held from August 4th through the 6th at the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center in San Antonio, on the River Walk, the site of RISKWORLD 2018. San Antonio is Jeff's favorite city in Texas. It's a wonderful host city. [29:30] There is a link in the show notes to the RIMS Texas Regional Conference 2025. Registration will open the week of the airing of this episode! [29:49] Jeff is a RIMS-CRMP holder. He earned that certification in November of 2019. He was excited to see RIMS introduce the certification. What he likes about CRMP is its governance focus. [30:23] Jeff had been doing risk management for a long time. The CRMP website has good sample test questions on it. He decided to work through the test questions several times. Then went and took the exam and scored pretty well, largely based on his experience. [30:48] Jeff says his ERM work over the years was helpful. The RIMS-CRMP is a good designation. Jeff appreciates that RIMS gives CRMP holders opportunities to network. He will continue to carry the designation as long as he is working. [31:09] Mos recertification points are CE-related. Jeff relies heavily on the Houston chapter's offerings and the sessions and seminars at RIMS functions. He appreciates the flexibility in terms of what qualifies, such as participation in broker-sponsored industry education. [31:50] Developing and delivering educational content is a favorite of Jeff's. He has served as Risk Manager in Residence (now Risk Manager on Campus). Jeff tells every risk manager it's amazing and they need to do it at least once. Jeff enjoys education and is always learning. [32:24] Jeff shares his advice for risk professionals. As Boomers in the industry start to retire, it's important to help the industry recruit, train, and young talent. It's a passion of Jeff's. [32:52] There are a few things Jeff would tell young professionals. One is you are the CEO of your career. Your career is your responsibility. Don't wait for a leader to bring opportunities or promotions to you. Be a student of your craft and trade. Set goals with plans to achieve them. [33:20] Jeff has managed his career that way by making strategic moves when it made sense for him to do so. He has no regrets. You're the CEO of your career, all in. Don't wait for others to act on your behalf. Whatever it is, be a student of your craft and seek opportunities to learn. [33:45] Grow your knowledge base, your experience, and your network. Jeff has benefited from RIMS in having a network of people who lean on each other and learn from each other. It's a wonderful thing! [33:58] Be a student of your business, wherever it is. Make connections within it. Seek out mentorships to learn on a broad basis what the business does and what its objectives are. You position yourself more visibly to add more value and to grow. [34:29] Jeff Strege, you have been such an inspiration today. I appreciate you so much for joining us here on RIMScast and being so giving with your time and wisdom! I look forward to seeing you at the first-ever Texas Regional 2025, August 4th through 6th in San Antonio! [34:48] Special thanks again to Jeff Strege for joining us here today on RIMScast! I look forward to seeing him at many RIMS events, including the first-ever RIMS Texas Regional Conference 2025, which will be held from August 4th through the 6th in San Antonio, Texas. 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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin and his guests, Denise Sobczak and Michael Zuraw, introduce the new RIMS paper: “The Pre-Mortem Method: Learning From Failure Without Actually Failing”. Unlike post-mortem analysis, a pre-mortem risk assessment attempts to learn from failure before a project even begins. This report highlights the advantages of implementing a pre-mortem risk assessment approach to strategic projects. Download the report to learn about the three steps to activate a pre-mortem assessment that fosters a better understanding of a project's overall objectives, and ultimately improves transparency, communication, and business outcomes. Justin, Michael, and Denise discuss implementation steps and frequency of pre-mortems in an organization. They cover ways of documentation and tracking insights from pre-mortem exercises, and tools for structuring an effective pre-mortem session. They explore how to involve participants and how to flip the script from naysaying to contributing insights. They consider the collateral benefits of involving your organization in a pre-mortem analysis. They share examples of how the pre-mortem works in their organizations.   Listen to gain insight into this innovative risk management tool to build upon the successes and achievements of your organization. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:17] About this episode of RIMScast. Our topic is pre-mortem analysis, which we will explore with past and present members of the RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Management Council. [:42] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! As part of RIMS's continuing strategic partnership with Purima, we have a two-day course coming up on April 22nd and 23rd. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:01] Virtual Workshops! On April 16th and 17th, Chris Hansen will lead “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability, and Employment Practices in the U.S.” [1:14] On June 12th, Pat Saporito will host “Managing Data for ERM” and will return on June 26th to present the very popular new course, “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [1:30] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:41] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, May 4th through 7th in Chicago. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember that there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [1:59] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” “Contractual Risk Transfer,” “Fundamentals of Insurance,” “Fundamentals of Risk Management,” RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep, and more! The links are in the show notes. [2:18] In March, RIMS released a new professional report called “The Pre-Mortem Method: Learning from Failure Without Actually Failing.” The two authors of this report are joining me here today! They have both been RIMScast guests. [2:39] Denise Sobczak is the Director of Group Risk Management at the BIC Group and Michael Zuraw is the Senior Director of Global Enterprise Risk Management for Onsemi. [2:52] Denise is a former member and Michael is a current member of the RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Management Council. Their paper, “The Pre-Mortem Method,” is available through the Risk Knowledge page of RIMS.org. Tap on the White Paper button on that page. [3:10] We're going to hear how Denise and Michael have used the pre-mortem method at their respective companies. We're going to give you tips on how to lead pre-mortem analysis discussions at your organizations whether for a big merger or unveiling a new product. [3:32] This conversation will continue on May 7th at RISKWORLD when Denise hosts “Pre-Mortem or Post-Mortem: If You Were a Patient, What Would Choose?” That session will be held in Room BC185. [3:47] Interview! Michael Zuraw and Denise Sobczak, welcome back to RIMScast! [3:55] Denise and Michael's paper is “The Pre-Mortem Method: Learning from Failure Without Actually Failing.” Pre-mortem analysis is a risk assessment approach that you apply to strategic projects. [4:13] The concept is simple. You assume that an initiative fails. Then you identify triggers of that failure and develop plans to avoid and mitigate them to achieve success. It was developed by Gary Klein and has been widely applied in the business world. [4:39] Michael says the approach was discovered by cognitive psychologists. It releases folks from some of the biases, such as groupthink and confirmation bias, that will muck up decisions. This approach encourages participation and takes risk identification to the next level. [5:07] Justin calls the paper an easy read that people can keep returning to. [5:22] The Strategic & ERM Council decided to do a track on scenario planning. One of their first shareouts was a paper on scenario planning with a segue on pre-mortem risk assessment on how to draw those scenarios. [5:44] Many things are going on, with a level of uncertainty in the external environment that drives uncertainty in the internal environment. As a risk practitioner, it's very important to have these tools. [5:59] Michael joined the Strategic & ERM Council a little over a year ago after they had started the scenario planning. He had already read the SERM Council paper on scenario planning with great interest. Michael is a fan of Gary Klein's and had used pre-mortems. [6:24] When Denise and others mentioned they were going to take the next step in their series of scenario planning to include a pre-mortem discussion, Michael immediately volunteered to be part of it. It was a topic he was familiar with and he had done some sessions on it already. [7:05] Denise explains a pre-mortem is one of many risk assessment tools available. There's no set number for how often an organization should perform one. The main attraction of this tool is its use when you are short on time and have few resources and you want a high-value output. [7:53] It's good to use a pre-mortem when there are a lot of cross-functional initiatives with interdependencies that create complexity and generate risks. [8:07] Michael thinks that for major strategic decisions, a pre-mortem should almost always be used. As you use it, you find out that it's very efficient and not complicated. You can learn from it to include contrarians in discussions to question all assumptions. It changes your risk culture. [8:52] Pieces of the pre-mortem method find their way into the way people approach everyday decisions, even without doing a formal pre-mortem analysis. A pre-mortem analysis is not difficult or expensive to do. As often as you think it provides value, have at it! [9:20] The primary thing a pre-mortem does is open the door to legitimizing doubt. It allows the group decision process to stay in inquiry not to be sucked into advocacy before all the risks are discussed and mitigated. [9:44] Michael notes that as the pre-mortem opens up concerns, they can be put on the table and discussed. The key is you have to take the next step which is to consider what you can change and improve your plan to prepare for the possibility of that risk and mitigate it. [10:08] The goal is to take what you've learned, feed it back into the decision process, and come out with a better plan than you had going in. [10:16] It's very key to get the insights and embed them into the company's core processes versus having a stand-alone tracker for the pre-mortem that you've done. If you've done a pre-mortem for a strategic initiative, integrate it into the status update reports for that initiative. [10:34] If the pre-mortem is related to an event, integrate it into regular management reviews, operating reviews, or even risk governance. Integrate insights that will help you into your core processes. [10:49] Denise and Justin discuss recording remote pre-mortem sessions on Zoom and transcribing them. Justin suggests recording even in-person sessions on Zoom for a transcript. [11:40] Michael says having a transcript of a pre-mortem helps because you want people to focus attention on the conversation and not on note-taking. Sometimes you want to go back and get some context. In-person meetings also allow seeing body language. [12:11] The point of this is to get it out there and talk about it. It's very interactive. [13:19] Pre-mortems are structured to picture a failure six months into the future. Then set a two-minute timer and ask everyone to write down what went wrong. Each one comes up with ideas without the group's influence and writes down key failure points that caused this outcome. [14:04] As a result, things that were just below the surface come out first. Even the staunchest advocate of the plan has to come up with something. The creativity of what could have gone wrong becomes an asset, not a detriment. [14:31] You're not a naysayer, you're an identifier. The basic premises of ERM are risk identification, risk prioritization, and risk response. A pre-mortem creates a more robust identification. You're a contributor. You've discussed something that you hadn't before. [14:54] Denise explains that a pre-mortem is a paradise for the naysayers because they don't have the burden to say it failed. We give that to them. It's not about being skeptical or negative but identifying the contributors that could have caused the failure and being part of the solution. [15:18] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On April 10th, Audit Board will present “What CISOs Want Risk Executives to Know About Cyber Risk in 2025”. [15:30] Following the success of their recent webinar, HUB International returns for the next installment of their Ready for Tomorrow Series, “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach”. That session will be on April 17th. [15:45] On April 24th, RiskConnect returns to deliver “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity”. [15:54] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [16:05] Important Announcement! RIMS and the Institute of Internal Auditors have entered into an agreement to deliver a selection of the other group's educational programming to their members. Twenty-nine shared courses will be available to both association's members. [16:23] RIMS members can explore the IIA courses that are now available to them at See Courses Here. To access RIMS's complete selection of workshops, webinars, and courses, visit RIMS.org/Education. [16:42] Let's Get Back to our Discussion about Pre-Mortem Analysis with Michael Zurow and Denise Sobczak! [17:09] Denise says individuals who have had experience with failures can tap into that experience in new situations. Newcomers can offer a fresh perspective. The key is diversity of thought and experience. Make participants comfortable to express their opinions. [17:38] Watch out for those who would take over. As you facilitate the pre-mortem, make sure that you're engaging and that it's a responsive type of facilitation. There's no right or wrong answer when you're looking for triggers. Later on, you will prioritize. [18:22] Michael has been at Onsemi for 20 years with broad exposure in product line management and supply chain. Four and a half years ago, Onsemi had a new CO and much of the top management changed. The question was what did the stakeholders want from ERM. [18:44] There was some change in how they approached it. He did pre-mortems before and he has done them since. The key is broad participation of the players, broad perspectives, and leading it to say that we want to know what you think. We want to question our assumptions. [19:08] That basic approach is to try to make the plan better, not bring it down, trying to improve the likelihood of success. That plays through all types of corporate change. [19:35] Participants should not be in the top tier of leaders, but in middle management with some boots on the ground. The middle management group forms the culture and they know enough key details about what the planners are thinking and to ask, what if they're wrong? [20:14] Denise expects the participants to be the people who are knee-deep in the initiative and are the subject matter experts. You can also invite folks who are not in the initiative but who have a say from the legal, financial, and business support perspectives. [20:42] The number of participants depends on the setting. An in-person setting can accommodate 10 or 15. In a virtual setting, you can have eight to 10. You need to make sure that everyone can participate. [21:14] More RIMS Plugs! The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved in part by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [21:33] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in general grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. [21:46] Spencer's 2026 application process will open on May 1st, 2025, and close on July 30th, 2025. General Grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's General Grants through the Programs tab of SpencerEd.org. [22:06] Spencer has several events lined up before and during RISKWORLD 2025. On May 3rd, there's the Spencer-CNA Pickle Ball Social, on May 4th, the Spencer-Gallagher Golf Tournament, on May 5th, the Spencer Soiree, and on May 6th, the Spencer-Sedgwick 5K Fun Run. [22:25] You can register for or sponsor any of these through the links on this page or by visiting SpencerEd.org/riskworld2025. [22:35] The call for submissions for the RIMS Canada Conference, which will be held in Calgary from September 14th through the 17th, 2025, is now open. We want to hear from you! We are looking for dynamic, insightful presentations on key industry topics. [22:49] Topics may include are but not limited to alternative risk transfer, insurance, legal and regulatory, risk modification and loss control, the DEI Studio, the Thought Leader Stage, corporate sustainability, ESG, and more. [23:03] Submit your proposal by the submission deadline, Wednesday, April 16th at 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time. Visit RIMSCanadaConference.ca and the link in this episode's notes for information. [23:17] If you will be in the Dallas/Fort Worth area on April 17th, be sure to stop by Lone Star Park for DFW RIMS's 7th Annual Night at the Races. It's going to be a blast! Guest, member, and student tickets are available. Visit DFWRIMS.org and the link in this episode's show notes. [23:41] Let's Return to our Discussion about Pre-Mortem Analysis with Denise Sobczak and Michael Zurow! [24:02] Denise mentions different ways to measure the ROI of a pre-mortem, in the light of inherited risk impact before mitigation versus residual risk, post-mitigation. [24:16] For a consumer goods company like BIC, Denise says it is more sensible to tie the effectiveness of the pre-mortem exercise with the overall achievement of the strategic goals or the operating targets because you are changing as you go. [24:38] Michael says it's tough to measure the effectiveness of a pre-mortem. You're asking a team that has already been assembled to spend half a day looking at the plan and, at the end, asking if they learned something that helped improve the plan. [25:30] Is the plan or decision better the day after the pre-mortem than it was the day before? Was it worth the four hours? Would you suggest doing this again? Would you recommend it to your peer? Advocating for a pre-mortem indicates its value, way beyond the cost of doing it. [26:16] Denise stresses the collateral benefits of a pre-mortem. If you are facilitating this type of risk assessment, you will reach a lot of folks in the organization and help them think differently. They will think of the risk management department or the ERM practitioner as a resource to use. [26:37] There is some amplification from a showcase of value to the organization from your function. Denise says a pre-mortem never took a day for her. Once she applied a pre-mortem in a 20-minute phone call with all the constituents. They came up with 15 reasons it could fail. [27:02] A pre-mortem can be formal or informal. The informal pre-mortem is as efficient and it is quicker. You need to understand what the culture of your organization is. If it is very formal, adapt to that. Denise tends to work in more agile organizations. [27:36] Michael works for a company that is heavy in engineering. A pre-mortem takes about two hours there. Engineers want to solve problems and tell you why their solution to the problem is awesome! They want data and rationalization justification. [28:15] Part of it is the moderation. Say the goal of this meeting is to get the concerns and issues out on the table. Afterward, we'll do a quick prioritization so we can assign owners to address the next step of how this feeds back into improving the plan. [28:32] As everybody took two minutes to write down the issues, get them out on the table and rotate through the biggest issue from each person as quickly as you can, one at a time, so no one gets into a laundry list of items. Keep the discussion moving across all the participants. [28:55] What you get is honest dialog and everyone participates. If you do that, you'll avoid overcomplicating it. It can be very simple. It's structured to help you manage that. As long as you keep it moving, it will be fine. [29:12] On 1:45 p.m., on May 7th, at RISKWORLD, in Room 185BC. Denise will be presenting “Pre-Mortem or Post-Mortem: If You Were Patient, Which One Would You Choose?” Denise will be extending the dialog from the paper and this episode. [29:37] Denise will miss Michael on stage. They had a successful session together at the RIMS ERM Fall Conference. Now that the paper is published, the presentation will be more robust. [29:55] The presentation will cover what pre-mortem risk assessment entails. You basically assume the strategic project has failed. Then you identify the triggers of that failure and develop plans to avoid and mitigate them to achieve success. Then you monitor. [30:25] Once Denise goes through the fundamentals, she will take you through a hands-on exercise of applying this technique. She will give a business case and have the audience start solving it and finding triggers. It's very easy. It will give a sense of what this is all about. [30:52] Denise's aim is that the participants, with the presentation and the white paper, will have another skillset to apply and bring value to their organization. There will be audience participation to close out the last day of the education track at RISKWORLD. [31:20] Denise will have a full hour and then there will be more audience participation when the Second City takes the stage for the Conference Finale. [31:34] Justin recommends attendees check out Denise's solid one-hour presentation. She assures you there will be no coasting in her session! [31:59] It has been such a pleasure to see you both. I appreciate you taking the time. You wrote a wonderful paper. The link is in this episode's notes. Go to RIMS.org/riskknowledge to check it out. Press the White Paper button and it will pop right up. Thank you both so much! [32:18] Special thanks again to Michael Zuraw and Denise Sobczak for joining us here on RIMScast. A link to their paper, “The Pre-Mortem Method: Learning from Failure Without Actually Failing” is available through the Risk Knowledge of RIMS.org. A link is in this episode's notes. [32:35] Beyond the pages and this episode, Denise will be extending the dialog at RISKWORLD on May 7th at 1:45 p.m. local time. She will deliver “Pre-Mortem or Post-Mortem: If You Were a Patient, Which Would You Choose?” That session will be held in room 185BC. [32:52] Register in advance through the RIMS Events App. [32:55] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [33:24] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [33:41] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [33:59] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [34:16] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [34:30] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [34:37] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Links: Presented by the RIMS SERMC: “The Pre-Mortem Method: Learning From Failure Without Actually Failing” RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7 | Register today! Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates Spencer's RISKWORLD Events — Register or Sponsor! RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Risk Management magazine RIMS Now Announcement: RIMS and The Institute for Internal Auditors' Strategic Alliance on Education RIMS Canada Conference 2025 | September 14‒17 | Calgary | Submit a session by April 16. DFW RIMS — 7th Annual Night at the Races / Lone Star Park – April 17, 2025 Nominations for the Donald M. 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From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach” | Sponsored by Hub International | April 17, 2025 “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity” | Sponsored by Riskonnect | April 24, 2025 “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding: Its Importance and How You Can Contribute” | Sponsored by Zurich | May 1, 2025   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA | April 22‒23 Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability and Employment Practices in the U.S.” | April 16‒17 | Instructor: Chris Hansen “Managing Data for ERM” | June 12 | Instructor: Pat Saporito  “Generative AI for Risk Management” | June 26 | Instructor: Pat Saporito See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw” “Scenario Planning with the RIMS SERMC” “Q1 2025 Risks with Morgan O'Rourke” “ERMotivation with Carrie Frandsen, RIMS-CRMP” “Risk Quantification Through Value-Based Frameworks” “Applying ERM Theory with Elise Farnham” “On Risk Appetite and Tolerance”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” | Sponsored by Zurich (New!) “What Risk Managers Can Learn From School Shootings” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog (New!) “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring Walmart ERM Director Michelle Black!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guests: Denise Sobczak, Director of Group Risk Management at the BIC Group Michael Zuraw, Senior Director of Global Enterprize Risk Management for Onsemi   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Crystal Trout is a director with Baker Tilly's Risk Advisory practice. Justin and Crystal discuss her career in anti-money laundering compliance, and what brought her to consulting. They discuss the elements of AML compliance and how the need for it stretches beyond financial institutions to any sector that involves large transactions, including virtual digital assets and investing. They talk about the $3 billion settlement TD Bank entered into with regulators in October of 2024 and the messages that sends both to financial institutions and money criminals. Listen to Crystal's advice to risk professionals who may oversee large transactions. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:15] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS at RISKWORLD from May 4th through May 7th in Chicago, Illinois. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:31] About this episode of RIMScast. Crystal Trout of Baker Tilly and I will discuss how Anti-Money Laundering regulations are impacting the risk profession. [:56] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! As part of RIMS's continuing strategic partnership with Purima, we have a two-day course coming up on April 22nd and 23rd. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:15] Virtual Workshops! On April 16th and 17th, Chris Hansen will lead “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability, and Employment Practices in the U.S.” [1:29] On June 12th, Pat Saporito will host “Managing Data for ERM” and will return on June 26th to present the very popular new course, “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [1:44] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:55] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, May 4th through 7th in Chicago. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember that there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [2:14] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” “Contractual Risk Transfer,” “Fundamentals of Insurance,” “Fundamentals of Risk Management,” RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep, and more! The links are in the show notes. [2:38] Money laundering should be one of the top risks on your risk radar, especially in 2025 as new regulations are added or rolled back. Some high-profile resolutions have made recent headlines. [2:51] To help me make sense of it all for the RIMScast audience, here is the Director of Baker Tilly's Risk Advisory Practice, Crystal Trout. Crystal has more than 23 years of experience working with financial institutions with a focus on financial crimes compliance. [3:08] We're going to talk about anti-money laundering (AML) programs and get some best practices for implementation and reporting. [3:18] Interview! Crystal Trout, welcome to RIMScast! [3:33] Crystal Trout is a director with Baker Tilly's Risk Advisory Group. She joined Baker Tilly after having worked in financial crimes risk for over 23 years. Previously, she was in the financial institution space. [3:51] Crystal switched to consulting to help other financial institutions build out their AML compliance programs and ensure that they're in a good spot for regulatory exams. [4:19] Crystal tells how she was drawn to anti-money laundering. In high school, she had an internship with a financial institution, and it was robbed. [4:37] When the FBI was doing their investigation, Crystal was trying to understand what they were doing and how they were going to catch the robber. She was so fascinated by the process that she changed what she went to school for and altered her career path.  [5:09] Crystal's interest in understanding how fraudsters and money launderers act led her to use her banking career to work in the back office and investigation space. [5:38] Crystal says the institution used dispensers that limited cash, and the robbers only got $500. Because of the weapon they used, the robbers got a massive sentence at trial. [6:38] Crystal explains the current AML environment. Baker Tilly is staying close to any regulatory changes. The complexity of regulations is extensive. It's critical that professionals in this space stay close to the challenges that extend even beyond the regulatory requirements. [6:59] We're seeing more changes in regulations than we have historically had, Crystal observes. It's a matter of understanding the landscape, staying close to the changes, and trying to predict which direction they may go and plan for either direction. The key is planning and not waiting. [7:32] Crystal suggests you should hope for the best and plan for the worst. Make sure that you're prepared to go in either direction, whether regulations are rolled back or strengthened. [7:57] Justin recalls that TD Bank reached a $3 billion settlement with U.S. regulators in October 2024, pleading guilty to failing to maintain an adequate AML program, which unfortunately led to the facilitation of money laundering activities. That's a huge penalty, Crystal points out. [8:37] This event provides valuable insight for risk professionals regarding regulatory expectations and also the consequences of inadequacies in their programs. [8:49] People need to understand that they can't be lackadaisical in their compliance program. They need to be ahead of it. It's all about preparation and planning.  [9:03] In the TD Bank case, regulators had identified substantial weaknesses in the overall transaction monitoring system and due diligence procedures. [9:17] TD Bank had allegedly failed to allocate the resources needed to operate their AML program, but they continued to have significant growth within their higher-risk customer segment and geographical region. [9:35] TD Bank wasn't staying ahead and keeping current with its customer base and the risks that were taking place. Beyond the penalty, TD Bank has expenses for remediation efforts, enhanced compliance infrastructure, and independent monitoring. All of these are added costs. [9:57] Financial institutions may fail to realize the costs that happen beyond the penalty. They may say it costs too much to add the staffing or build the correct tools, not realizing it will cost them more when the regulators find these faults and weaknesses within their program. [10:18] A key lesson to learn is that compliance programs must be able to scale appropriately with the institution's business growth and evolving risk profiles. [10:30] Regulators focus on the overall program effectiveness rather than mere technical compliance, particularly regarding the quality of suspicious activity identification and reporting. [10:41] It's important for institutions that have to comply with these programs to be proactive and make sure they have the correct resource allocation. Those things are key when it comes to ensuring that AML compliance programs operate effectively. [11:11] There are five key pillars involved in an AML compliance program, including a designated compliance officer and following customer due diligence. You build an AML Bible, with paperwork that documents the steps you're going to take to be in compliance. [11:39] It allows your people to understand the risk that the institution is willing to take, and what it's not willing to accept. You document everything as evidence base for regulators, as having the correct tools and technology to support the program's overall risk tolerance. [12:33] Justin and Crystal address the reputational risk to an institution that may come from a regulatory settlement. Crystal states that these settlements signal to the bad guys that they are going to be caught and they're not going to be able to continue to act at that institution. [13:14] Crystal tells about the bank robber. For prevention, when someone comes into the bank, make eye contact, talk to them, and acknowledge them. If they're scouting it out, there's a lot less chance they'll come back to that bank because they are being noticed. [13:37] A criminal may not physically be in the bank, but if you do due diligence up front when they open an account, asking the right questions, and looking for red flags, they may realize that you have a very strong AML program in place and they'll go elsewhere. [14:07] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On April 3rd, join Zurich for “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding”. On April 10th, Audit Board will present “What CISOs Want Risk Executives to Know About Cyber Risk in 2025”. [14:24] Following the success of their recent webinar, HUB International returns for the next installment of their Ready for Tomorrow Series, “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach”. That session will be on April 17th. [14:40] On April 24th, RiskConnect returns to deliver “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity”. [14:48] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [14:59] Important Announcement! RIMS and the Institute of Internal Auditors have entered into an agreement to deliver a selection of the other group's educational programming to their members. Twenty-nine shared courses will be available to both association's members. [15:17] RIMS members can explore the IIA courses that are now available to them at See Courses Here. To access RIMS's complete selection of workshops, webinars, and courses, visit RIMS.org/Education. [15:35] Let's Return to my Interview with Crystal Trout! [15:50] Are risk professionals who are not at financial institutions at risk of inadvertently being caught up in a money laundering crime? Crystal says this question is in the back of the mind of any risk professional. She remembers that running an AML compliance program is stressful. [16:22] There's always the risk that a chief compliance manager could be cited for a failure and have to pay a significant, hefty fine. A risk manager should be aware of this when they're performing any form of transaction. Listen to your gut if something seems off. Don't ignore it. [17:26] Is paying in cryptocurrency a red flag? Navigating AML compliance specifically regarding cryptocurrency is new for a lot of professionals. There are risks and benefits to digital assets concerning AML compliance. [17:54] With any evolving form of payment, if risk professionals aren't staying ahead, truly understanding and navigating how it works, it's going to make it difficult for them to understand red flags and risks that might come, as well. [18:13] There is sometimes a natural fear in risk professionals that because they're not comfortable with cryptocurrency, they're not able to address any legitimate concerns or concerns that may be their internal fear due to the lack of knowledge. [18:45] Is it too risky for a company to announce the voluntary departure of a Chief Compliance Officer? Crystal says the company should already have a plan for somebody to temporarily step in and continue to operate so it doesn't leave a gap or exposure in the organization. [19:22] It's an opportunity for a risk professional to go into a financial institution and make a mark for themselves by helping the institution strengthen its overall compliance program. [19:49] It's a good practice for a company to announce the replacement chief compliance officer at the same time as the announcement of the leaving chief compliance officer. It's part of succession planning. [20:47] The money laundering risk landscape is expanding significantly. Industries outside of finance and banking face substantial financial crime risk and corresponding regulatory scrutiny. They have less mature compliance infrastructure than their banking counterparts. [21:07] Crystal mentions the real estate sector as a potential vehicle for money laundering due to the high-value transactions, price stability, and the lack of historical regulatory oversight. [21:19] Digital asset providers, cryptocurrency exchanges, wallet providers, and any type of virtual asset service providers face intensifying regulatory scrutiny because the platforms can facilitate anonymous transactions. [21:35] The Financial Action Task Force has established clear expectations for virtual asset service providers to implement robust AML controls. Gaming and gambling services present money laundering risk. [21:53] There are other high-risk sectors that money laundering risk could expand to. FinCEN recently required registered investment advisors and exempt reporting advisors who have not been required to have an AML compliance program to have one in place by January 2026. [22:22] We're seeing AML compliance extend beyond traditional banking. [22:34] There are very few industries that, in some form or fashion, could not be a victim of a bad actor performing money laundering. It's just a matter of the bad guy finding a way to do it. [23:09] What steps should a company take when money laundering by an employee is discovered? The appropriate officer needs to start an internal investigation. That's a lengthy process. Make sure the “i”s are dotted and the “t”s are crossed within the investigation. [23:47] Make sure all the evidence and documentation are aligned. Involve HR and the appropriate supervisor authority. If it's shown to be true, interview the individual. It could lead to termination. The investigative process could take months. The authorities may be alerted. [24:39] The company may not want it out in public knowledge and may not file a police report. It can damage a company's reputation. [25:00] Crystal explains her passion for AML compliance and why she became a compliance consultant to help more institutions. The downstream impact is so significant. She wants to make sure the bad apples don't have the opportunity to launder funds. [25:54] Special thanks again to Crystal Trout for joining us here on RIMScast. I've got links to more RIMS coverage of fraud, compliance, financial risk management, and anti-money laundering in this episode's show notes. [26:09] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [26:38] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [26:55] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [27:13] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [27:30] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [27:44] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [27:51] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Links: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7 | Register today! Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award [Canada] Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates Spencer's RISKWORLD Events — Register or Sponsor! RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Risk Management magazine RIMS Now Announcement: RIMS and The Institute for Internal Auditors' Strategic Alliance on Education RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” | Sponsored by Zurich | April 3, 2025 “What CISOs Want Risk Executives to Know About Cyber Risk in 2025” | Sponsored by Auditboard | April 10, 2025 “Ready for Tomorrow? From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach” | Sponsored by Hub International | April 17, 2025 “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity” | Sponsored by Riskonnect | April 24, 2025   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA | April 22‒23 Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability and Employment Practices in the U.S.” | April 16‒17 | Instructor: Chris Hansen “Managing Data for ERM” | June 12 | Instructor: Pat Saporito  “Generative AI for Risk Management” | June 26 | Instructor: Pat Saporito See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “RIMS Legislative Priorities in 2025 with Mark Prysock” “AI and Regulatory Risk Trends with Caroline Shleifer” “Financial Risk Management with Chris Willey of American Eagle FCU” “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw” “ERM in Banking & Finance with Eleni Willis”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” | Sponsored by Zurich (New!) “What Risk Managers Can Learn From School Shootings” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog (New!) “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring Walmart ERM Director Michelle Black!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Crystal Trout, Director, Risk Services Advisory Group at Baker Tilly   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   William Sako is a security and risk expert. Justin and William address issues such as how security tech makes buildings smarter and safer, examples of the risk tech used in these buildings, and mistakes that risk leaders might make today. They discuss how COVID-19 has facilitated change in enhancing security measures that will be with us forever. They talk about the important role of the risk manager when designing a security plan for a building. They dig into how risk managers can lead the charge, going above and beyond check-the-box compliance. Listen to William's perspectives on risk technology, communication within an organization, and the future of building security. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:15] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS at RISKWORLD from May 4th through May 7th in Chicago, Illinois. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:31] About this episode of RIMScast. We will be joined by Bill Sako of Telgian Engineering to discuss security risk management in 2025. [:58] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! As part of RIMS's continuing strategic partnership with Purima, we have a two-day course coming up on April 22nd and 23rd. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:15] Virtual Workshops! On March 26th, Pat Saporito will host “Generative AI for Risk Management”. The next course will be on June 26th. [1:29] On April 16th and 17th, Chris Hansen will lead “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability, and Employment Practices in the U.S.” [1:42] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:53] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, May 4th through 7th in Chicago. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember that there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [2:12] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” “Contractual Risk Transfer,” “Fundamentals of Insurance,” “Fundamentals of Risk Management,” RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep, and more! The links are in the show notes. [2:35] Our guest today, Bill Sako, is the Vice President and Senior Security Consultant at Telgian Engineering and Consulting. He has 50 years of experience in security risk management. [2:49] Bill will tell us what's keeping him up at night in security, risk management, visitor management, and workplace safety in 2025. We'll also provide tips for risk managers on how to be more of a leading voice in finding a new location, renovating it, and installing security tech. [3:15] Interview! Bill Sako, welcome back to RIMScast! [3:33] Bill got into the business of security in 1974 by starting Sako & Associates, a security consulting firm. It became the second largest in the U.S. with 28 engineers and support staff, doing every kind of security project in buildings and venues. [3:54] Sako & Associates did security projects at U.S. Embassies, F.B.I. Headquarters, super highrise buildings all over the world, large mixed-use projects, and developing multiple security programs that have to meld together in a large, complicated building. [4:20] These projects include large medical centers and college campuses around the world. A lot of its work was done with architects in corporate America when they were developing office buildings. [4:39] Sako & Associates developed over $2.2 billion in security plans over many projects. [5:33] Today's security tech is transforming buildings into smarter and safer environments through advanced sensors, AI, and connectivity. AI-powered surveillance cameras detect unusual behavior, recognize faces, and track movement in real-time. [5:58] That technology was in its infancy 10 years ago. It's come a long way and the technology is becoming rock-solid. The systems can differentiate between threats and harmless activities to reduce false alarms and help the person monitoring the system understand them. [6:18] Access control to the building and tenant spaces within the building is provided through biometric scanners, mobile-based apps, and smart card readers, with logs for digital security auditing.  [6:37] Smart IoT sensors monitor temperature and air quality. They trigger alarms very quickly in case of fire, gas leak, or unauthorized entry, to keep the building occupants safe. [6:54] Automated threat response is provided through automatically locking doors, alerting authorities, and activating emergency lighting, in response to hazards and breaches. We've had this capability for 20 years, but it is being used more now. [7:27] Cloud-based surveillance allows remote monitoring by management and first responders through web access and smartphones to see the cameras in the building in real time. It's becoming a trend. [7:59] Cyber security measures, with increased connectivity, can provide solutions to protect networks from threats like hacking and data breaches to ensure physical security systems are uncompromised. [8:12] Fire response systems have been hardwired for years. Engineers are starting to implement connected capabilities for them. [8:39] Bill talks about companies paying to install cameras, but when a camera fails, not paying to replace them, leaving black monitor screens. That gave birth to predictive maintenance plans with established lifelines for any piece of equipment and budgets for replacement as needed. [9:49] All the functions of emergency management are being automated. These innovations collectively create smarter buildings that are more secure, efficient, and responsive to any potential threat. [10:40] Many times, the technology that's put into a building is assumed to be static. That's true until you make changes to the building. Then you have to update the system. [11:02] Security is a different ball game. Security is based on behaviors. The threat environment can change from hour to hour or day to day, depending on who's visiting the building and what's going on down the street. You have to have flexibility and people to operate the equipment. [11:28] The technology needs a human operator to interpret the signals and determine the right response in real time. AI and machine learning are great technologies and we're using them virtually in every piece of equipment going in. [12:09] You still need a human to be able to assess what's happening and how they're supposed to respond when multiple sensors are going off. Bill tells of a break-in when the right response was to send three armed security officers to the asset vault. The suspects were apprehended. [13:46] Bill explains some of the changes in security technology that have been incorporated as a result of COVID-19. Increased reliance on technology led to changes in security practices.  Touchless access control came about as a result of COVID-19. [14:28] Occupancy management lets building owners know who is in the building and allows for the building to be evacuated safely. [14:48] With people working from home, COVID-19 led to an expansion in remote monitoring. [15:02] Visitor management is important. Healthcare facilities realize today that they have to protect their staff and patients in the building. They need screening in the lobby and must use visitor management. Automated systems make it easy. [16:28] Touchless and mobile access control will be with us forever. Bill also includes hybrid security management, AI-powered surveillance and analytics, and moving security and surveillance to the cloud provides greater capability. Your command center can be your laptop. [17:35] As security moved more into the digital domain, we figured out how to operate across networks and maintain security for all the data we have. Bill says it's rock-solid today. [17:55] Bill believes cloud-based services are the way to go for most buildings today. It gives you the capability to do everything remotely. [18:04] Data-driven decision-making will stay with us for a long time. It allows you to predict and mitigate risk on the fly. You have to train people well to know how to respond to the data. [18:26] Zero trust is a practice where no one coming into the network is trusted without proof through multi-factor identification. Even the Chairman of the Board must be verified. [19:01] Bill continues with crisis management and business continuity planning. A bullet list is not a business continuity plan. With crisis management and business continuity, you have to train people so they understand the plans. [19:24] The pandemic introduced new security practices and accelerated the modernization of legacy systems. Security includes integrating legacy systems with new systems. Command centers may have multiple disparate systems in one security management enterprise system. [20:14] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On Wednesday, March 26th at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time, members of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council will extend the dialog that began in the recent RIMS Executive Report “Understanding Interconnected Risks”. [20:33] On Thursday, March 27th, Descartes Underwriting will make its RIMS Webinar debut with a session about parametric insurance. On April 3rd, join Zurich for “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding”. [20:47] On April 10th, Audit Board will present “What CISOs Want Risk Executives to Know About Cyber Risk in 2025”. [20:54] Following the success of their recent webinar, HUB International returns for the next installment of their Ready for Tomorrow Series, “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach”. That session will be on April 17th. [21:10] On April 24th, RiskConnect returns to deliver “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity”. [21:18 More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [21:30] Let's Resume Our Dialogue about Security Risks with Bill Sako! [22:10] In 50 years of security work, Bill did not encounter many leaders with Risk in their titles. While all insurance is about risk, in the corporate world, only very large companies have risk officers. Everything is in its silo. Getting the silos to talk together can be a nightmare. [22:48] Typical buildings don't have risk managers. Corporate campuses may have a risk manager to manage 50 or 60 buildings. That person is strained. [23:02] When Telgian Engineering & Consulting is brought in for an audit or to develop a new system design for a client, they identify who the risk leader is, whatever title they may have. They team with the people who know the vulnerabilities and the threats of the organization. [23:47] Telgian has recommended to several clients that they should hire a risk management person on staff. In a lot of cases, they say they don't have the budget but they'll think about it for the future. At that organization, who is evaluating risk for them? [24:07] Telgian, as a consultant, takes that role for the organization while they're doing the assessment, creating detailed risk models. Then they educate the client to the extent that the client understands what the risks are and the risk mitigation techniques they could use. [24:47] Bill says the hard thing is to dig into organizations internally to find who that risk leader might be. Someone is doing it, even without the title. It might be the CEO. [25:36] In organizations with a titled risk officer, they may be siloed, in a lot of cases. That risk manager needs to understand whom to work with within the organization to address all the organization's security concerns. The siloes need to be taken down. [26:17] Telgian Engineering & Consulting has always had the responsibility to educate its clients. The clients may think they understand what security is and what the risks are, but they often have a very narrow view without seeing the big picture. [27:06] The person at the lobby reception desk of an office building is often the first line of defense. There may be security officers there. What happens when the visitor goes up the elevator? [27:38] The organization should provide security training for the lobby receptionist. They can see if a visitor is acting agitated. They can attempt to de-escalate an angry visitor. They need to be briefed on the organization's security practices, especially when they identify a threat. [29:23] When Telgian does an assessment, they don't want one point person to show them around. They want to talk to everybody who is in touch with what's going on in the organization. Receptionists are one of the primary sources of information for Telgian. [30:13] Bill says that risk leaders and officers need to find a way to become embedded in the organization and the things that are going on. The risk manager needs to be part of the security team, the facilities team, the legal team, and the IT team. [30:32] Bill has recommended to risk managers that they should set up monthly or bi-monthly meetings with the leaders of the siloes to discuss concerns and risks and how to solve those problems together. The risk manager is usually the right person to pull that team together. [31:42] Bill says identifying risks through AI on video cameras and following a visitor through the building is happening in many organizations now. This is critical for post-incident analysis. [33:07] One thing the government is great at is doing a full-blown report after an incident. That incident report winds up informing security of the risks to watch for. [33:19] On every consultation project, Bill got past reports upfront from the organization to see what the issues have been with the organization. They design security systems to meet those threats. Organizations have to do that to manage their risks properly. [33:42] Special thanks again to William Saco for joining us here on RIMScast. In this episode's show notes, I have links to more RIMS Risk Management magazine and RIMScast coverage on security risks and workplace violence preparedness and prevention.  [33:59] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [34:27] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [34:46] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [35:03] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [35:20] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [35:34] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [35:41] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Links: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7. | Register today! Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award [Canada] Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates Spencer's RISKWORLD Events — Register or Sponsor! RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Risk Management magazine RIMS Now RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “Understanding Interconnected Risks” | Presented by RIMS and the Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council | March 26, 2025 “Parametric Insurance and Climate Risk: An Innovative Tool for CAT Risk Management” | Sponsored by Descartes Underwriting | March 27, 2025 “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” | Sponsored by Zurich | April 3, 2025 “What CISOs Want Risk Executives to Know About Cyber Risk in 2025” | Sponsored by Auditboard | April 10, 2025 “Ready for Tomorrow? From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach” | Sponsored by Hub International | April 17, 2025 “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity” | Sponsored by Riskonnect | April 24, 2025   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA | April 22‒23 Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: “Generative AI for Risk Management” | March 26 and June 26 | Instructor: Pat Saporito “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability and Employment Practices in the U.S.” | April 16‒17 | Instructor: Chris Hansen See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Evolving Fire Risks with Ralph Bless” “Public Violence and Workplace Safety with Lauris Freidenfelds” “E-Commerce's Impact on Fire Safety in Supply Chains with Leonard Ramo” “Data Privacy and Protection with CISA Chief Privacy Officer James Burd” “Solving Wicked Problems with Dr. Gav Schneider”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “What Risk Managers Can Learn From School Shootings” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog (New!) “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring Walmart ERM Director Michelle Black!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: William Sako, Vice President, Senior Security Consultant at Telgian Engineering & Consulting, LLC   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Our guest, Morgan O'Rourke, is the Senior Director of Content & Publications of RIMS. Justin and Morgan discuss the new member-centric newsletter, RIMS Now, and review the Q1 2025 digital edition of RIMS Risk Management magazine and the marquee features. They talk about the prominent way AI is being covered in this quarter because it's permeating all facets of risk management. RIMS attended the TRENDY Awards on March 13 and Risk Management magazine took home the Bronze for Best Quarterly or Annual Magazine or Journal and RIMScast took the Bronze for Best Podcast. The TRENDY Awards honor the best marketing and communication pieces in the association and non-profit community. Listen in for Morgan's perspectives on the emerging trends in risk management. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:15] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS at RISKWORLD from May 4th through May 7th in Chicago, Illinois. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:31] About this episode of RIMScast. We will be joined by RIMS Senior Director of Content and Publications, Morgan O'Rourke. We will discuss risk trends and highlights from the Q1 2025 issue of RIMS Risk Management magazine. [1:00] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! As part of our continuing strategic partnership with Purima, we have a two-day course coming up on April 22nd and 23rd. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:19] Virtual Workshops! On March 26th, Pat Saporito will host “Generative AI for Risk Management”. On April 16th and 17th, Chris Hansen will lead “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability, and Employment Practices in the U.S.” [1:42] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:53] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, May 4th through 7th in Chicago. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember that there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [2:12] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” “Contractual Risk Transfer,” “Fundamentals of Insurance,” “Fundamentals of Risk Management,” RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep, and more! The links are in the show notes. [2:35] Our guest today, Morgan O'Rourke, is the Senior Director of Content and Publications at RIMS. We will discuss highlights from the Q1 2025 issue of RIMS Risk Management magazine. [2:50] There's some proud news from our camps! On March 13th, Risk Management magazine and RIMScast took home Bronze TRENDY Awards during Association Trends and CEO Updates Salute to Association Excellence. This event was in Washington, D.C. [3:06] Risk Management magazine took home the Bronze for Best Quarterly or Annual Magazine or Journal and RIMScast took the Bronze for Best Podcast. The TRENDY Awards honor the best marketing and communication pieces in the association and non-profit community. [3:21] We are humbled and honored to be acknowledged and want to thank our audiences worldwide. [3:27] We're going to talk all about the risk management trends that are populating the digital pages of RIMS Risk Management magazine and how these articles can help our audience do their jobs better. [3:42] Interview! Morgan O'Rourke, welcome back to RIMScast! [3:56] Morgan and Justin just won TRENDY Awards! Justin loves this recognition from his peers. It shows that the work is resonating with the readers and listeners. Hilary Tuttle accepted an award for writing on behalf of RIMS Risk Management magazine. [5:21] Morgan has a new member publication, RIMS Now, a newsletter about RIMS and what's going on in the society and the chapters, keeping members up to date on the RIMS community. [5:47] The next issue should be out in early April. Morgan invites anyone interested to email him at RIMSNow@RIMS.org with any updates you have about your chapter for consideration for a future issue. [6:28] This is not for risk management thought leadership that can go in other venues. This is for news, accomplishments, and cool stuff your chapter is doing. [9:21] TRENDY 2025 Award-winning RIMS Risk Management magazine is a quarterly digital publication. RIMS posts articles multiple times a week on the website and compiles them into a magazine flip page format once a quarter. The first quarterly issue of 2025 came out in March. [10:07] The next quarterly issue is planned for June. The publication will evolve as new software features are added. [11:29] Justin gives credit to Morgan O'Rourke, Hilary Tuttle,  Andrew Bass, and Jennifer Post for leaning into the digital version of RIMS Risk Management magazine. Morgan has produced print magazines for 20 years, but the trend is digital. A digital publication is more responsive to news. [12:58] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On Wednesday, March 26th at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time, members of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council will extend the dialog that began in the recent RIMS Executive Report “Understanding Interconnected Risks”. [13:17] On Thursday, March 27th, Descartes Underwriting will make its RIMS Webinar debut with a session about parametric insurance. On April 3rd, join Zurich for “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding”. [13:30] On April 10th, Audit Board will present “What CISOs Want Risk Executives to Know About Cyber Risk in 2025”. [13:38] Following the success of their recent webinar, HUB International returns for the next installment of their Ready for Tomorrow Series, “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach”. That session will be on April 17th. [13:54] On April 24th, RiskConnect returns to deliver “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity”. [14:02] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [14:13] Let's Return to Our Interview with RIMS Senior Director of Content and Publications, Morgan O'Rourke! [15:19] The big news in Q1 of 2025 was the wildfires in California. There were probably $30 to $50 billion in insured losses. The disasters hit places that weren't prepared for or used to wildfires. Much of Canada caught fire. There were fires on the East Coast. [16:09] There were convective storms stronger than ever in the Midwest and floods hitting places that weren't prepared. The risk landscape has gotten a lot broader. It portends a larger trend you should prepare for. Morgan and Justin agree that climate risk is at the heart of this. [17:03] Weather patterns are going to change. Disasters are going to be stronger and more frequent. Make sure that you have risk management measures in place. Make sure your coverages are adequate for your needs. Speak to your insurers about how you mitigate risks. [17:48] Justin says business interruption losses were covered in an article by Anderson Kill. Business interruption coverage should cover smoke damage. [18:31] An eye-opener for Justin was that AI and AI-related risks are laced throughout the feature articles. Articles cover project management and mergers and acquisitions in terms of AI. Everything we normally do now has an AI facet within different contexts. [20:07] There is a standing policy in the magazine and RIMS not to publish anything generated by AI. Beyond generative AI, there are ways AI streamlines jobs. In risk management planning, an AI might be used to come up quickly with risk scenarios for you to consider if they apply. [21:37] Morgan emphasizes that if you use AI, use it thoughtfully. One of the featured articles is about how to manage AI projects successfully. Decide how you will use it if it fits your business. Are you addressing data security risks? Don't use a program that opens up vulnerabilities. [22:23] You want to make sure that whoever is supposed to use it can do so and wants to do so. Otherwise, you'll be spending money on something that's not useful to you. When you use it, you've got to make sure you are looking at certain risks, security being a major one. [22:54] An article on the site covers how HR departments use AI. You have to make certain the AI has no inherent bias in evaluating resumes and that the data is secure so you don't make some personally identifiable information public. [24:03] Justin brings up March being World Water Month. Every time you use AI, you are using water to cool the servers. You use a lot of energy, too. [24:58] If you're interested in contributing content to RIMS Risk Management magazine, reach out to MORourke@RIMS.org or go to RMMagazine.com  and click on the Contribute link. You will see the basics of what they are looking for and how they approach articles. [25:45] If you are a risk professional or adjacent to the risk profession, you're a person RIMS Risk Management magazine wants to hear from. You, the risk managers, are the experts. Morgan relies on the expertise of the risk management community. [26:25] Morgan thinks there will be content regarding the impact of the Trump administration's policies, particularly tariffs. They will have huge implications for supply chains. A.M. Best released a statement on the impact on the insurance industry for replacement costs. [27:17] If there are tariffs on lumber, steel, and aluminum that go into replacing your home or business, property insurance policies will have to go higher because of replacement costs. [27:29] Morgan speaks of political risk insurance and trade credit risk insurance that are moving to the front burner because of differences in the supply chain and the risks therein. Risk professionals will want to keep informed about various policy changes. [28:07] Special thanks again to RIMS Senior Director of Content and Publications, Morgan O'Rourke. He signs my checks and he's never looked or sounded better! You can read the TRENDY Award-winning RIMS Risk Management magazine at RMmagazine.com. [28:24] Check out this quarter's digital edition and all the individual articles we mentioned. If you want to contribute to the magazine, check out rmmagazine.com/contribute. You can reach out to the editorial staff on that page as well. [28:42] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [29:11] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [29:29] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [29:46] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [30:03] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [30:17] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [30:24] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Links: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7 | Register today! Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award [Canada] Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates Spencer's RISKWORLD Events — Register or Sponsor! RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Risk Management magazine RIMS Now RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “Understanding Interconnected Risks” | Presented by RIMS and the Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council | March 26, 2025 “Parametric Insurance and Climate Risk: An Innovative Tool for CAT Risk Management” | Sponsored by Descartes Underwriting | March 27, 2025 “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding” | Sponsored by Zurich | April 3, 2025 “What CISOs Want Risk Executives to Know About Cyber Risk in 2025” | Sponsored by Auditboard | April 10, 2025 “Ready for Tomorrow? From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach” | Sponsored by Hub International | April 17, 2025 “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity” | Sponsored by Riskonnect | April 24, 2025     Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA | April 22‒23 Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: “Generative AI for Risk Management” | March 26 | Instructor: Pat Saporito “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability and Employment Practices in the U.S.” | April 16‒17 | Instructor: Chris Hansen See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Year In Risk 2024 with Morgan O'Rourke and Hilary Tuttle” “Kicking off 2025 with RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche” “Brand New Day with RIMS 2025 President Kristen Peed” “RIMS Legislative Priorities in 2025 with Mark Prysock” “(Re)Humanizing Leadership in Risk Management with Holly Ransom” (RISKWORLD Keynote) “Risk and Relatability with Rachel DeAlto, RISKWORLD Keynote” “Risk and Leadership Patterns with Super Bowl Champion Ryan Harris” (RISKWORLD Keynote)   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring Walmart ERM Director Michelle Black!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Morgan O'Rourke, Senior Director of Content & Publications at RIMS   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Our guest, Kristen Peed, is the Chief Risk Officer of Sequoia, and RIMS 2025 President. Kristen was recently promoted to Chief Risk Officer. She tells about that role and how it differs from her other risk roles.   Kristen speaks of a few of the risks to organizations today. She shares two stories of mentorship from her past and her efforts to provide mentorship today. Kristen shares thoughts about the evolving role of the risk manager and her pathway to the C-Suite for a seat at the table. She discusses the legislative summit, the topic of third-party-funded litigation, and the need for transparency and regulation.   Justin and Kristen discuss how every day is a brand new day for RIMS, what will be celebrated at RISKWORLD 2025, and a couple of new RIMS initiatives you can expect to learn about there. Kristen shares her gratitude to all the RIMS volunteers who make her job as 2025 president possible.   Listen for Kristen's career advancement advice and her final suggestion for growth. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:14] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS at RISKWORLD from May 4th through May 7th in Chicago, Illinois. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and the link in this episode's show notes. [:31] About this episode of RIMScast. We will be joined by RIMS President Kristen Peed. [:48] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! The next workshop will be March 19th and 20th. Register by March 12th. As part of our continuing strategic partnership with Purima, we have a two-day course coming up on April 22nd and 23rd. [1:03] Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:10] Virtual Workshops! On March 26th, Pat Saporito will host “Generative AI for Risk Management”. [1:18] On April 16th and 17th, Chris Hansen will lead “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability, and Employment Practices in the U.S.”. [1:31] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:40] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, May 4th through 7th in Chicago. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [1:57] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” “Contractual Risk Transfer,” “Fundamentals of Insurance,” “Fundamentals of Risk Management,” RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep, and more! Links are in the show notes. [2:17] Our guest today is the Chief Risk Officer at Sequoia and the RIMS 2025 President, Kristen Peed. We're going to talk about her risk management career journey, what it took for her to ascend to the level of Chief Risk Officer, and what that means for her organization. [2:38] We will also talk about the power of mentorship, networking, and what's in store for us at RISKWORLD 2025 and throughout the year as we celebrate the 75th anniversary of RIMS. [2:50] Interview! RIMS 2025 President, Kristen Peed, welcome to RIMScast! [3:07] This is Kristen's eighth year on the RIMS Board. It's been an amazing journey! Most of her best friends are RIMS staff members or RIMS members, all over the globe. RIMS is a huge part of her life! Justin joined RIMS almost eight years ago. They have known each other for years. [3:33] Justin shares a memory with Kristen in Halifax. Kristen took part in an impromptu presentation, in the role of a petulant child. [4:06] Kristen wears sneakers; she has branded herself as the sneaker queen. She has stopped counting how many pairs of sneakers she has. [4:34] This year is the 75th anniversary of RIMS. There is a big RISKWORLD in May; its theme is Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS. [4:54] Kristen Peed was recently promoted to Chief Risk Officer of Sequoia. Sequoia has ambitious growth goals, which is one of the reasons Kristen joined it. In her new role, Kristen has oversight of all corporate risks. [5:27] These include enterprise risks, IT risks, security risks, property & casualty risks, and E&O risks. It's overarching. [5:46] Kristen sees there has been a slow transition for risk managers in general, from a transactional, procurement role to a strategic role, where they see opportunities with risk. Where they see places where they can offer value and insight. [6:07] Sequoia is a client-based company. Clients are reaching out to Kristen for help dealing with deep-fake interviews. Kristen looked to the RIMS Board of Directors and Cherise Papadopolo, RIMS VP of DEI, People, & Culture, and got some helpful HR information. [6:48] Kristen was able to provide strategic advice to a Sequoia client's Chief People Officer. It's a perfect example of how RIMS helps risk managers to be viewed as strategic. The RIMS community is part of the reason Kristen was able to take on the role of Chief Risk Officer. [7:13] The role is something Kristen has been preparing for ever since she started as a risk analyst. Every step has been more of a strategic and leadership role rather than being in the weeds doing stuff. The Chief Risk Officer helps navigate and chart the map for the “captain.” [7:55] Kristen's career advancement came both from having a plan and from being seen for her hard work. She has learned to ask for things more. She was fortunate to have some success early in her career and capitalized on it. A new boss provided amazing mentorship for Kristen. [8:41] She asked, “What's the next role for Kristen?” Kristen realized she would like to be considered for a Chief Risk Officer role. Kristen's boss understood her value and wanted to make sure she felt appreciated. Six months later, Kristen was offered the role if she wanted to take it. [9:45] Part of it is making your leadership aware that these titles exist, showing your value, and asking for it. [10:05] One of Kristen's early successes at Sequoia involved using her RIMS network to put together a presentation on using surplus funds from the captive PEO insurer to fuel additional risk management activities. Leadership was excited and Kristen implemented it right away. [11:03] Another success was the consolidation of insurance programs. Sequoia had grown quickly and had renewal dates in different places. Kristen showed her market savvy and leveraged her relationships with carriers to bring down some initial premium costs. [12:00] Kristen says that putting the C-level title on a risk officer differentiates it. When she partners with the CISO or the Chief Data Officer, they are on equal footing. The C-level carries more weight. It also helps carriers in the marketplace see her as being in company leadership. [12:42] When Kristen meets with underwriters and carriers, they have a greater sense of comfort knowing she has a seat at the table and understands the direction of the company and how to mitigate against risk before it hits insurance. [13:01] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On March 13th, our friends from Global Risk Consultants will return to discuss “How to Make Your Property Insurance Submission AI-Ready”. [13:15] On Wednesday, March 26th at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time, members of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council will extend the dialog that began in the recent RIMS Executive Report “Understanding Interconnected Risks”. [13:30] On Thursday, March 27th, Descartes Underwriting will make its RIMS Webinar debut with a session about parametric insurance. On April 3rd, join Zurich for “Understanding Third-Party Litigation Funding”. [13:43] On April 10th, Audit Board will present, “What CISOs Want Risk Executives to Know About Cyber Risk in 2025”. [13:51] Following the success of their recent webinar, HUB International returns for the next installment of their Ready for Tomorrow Series, “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach”. That session will be on April 17th. [14:07] On April 24th, RiskConnect returns to deliver “Better Together: The Marriage of Insurable Risk and Business Continuity”. [14:40] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [14:26] Let's Return to Our Interview with RIMS 2025 President Kristen Peed! [14:37] As a follow-up to the RIMScast episode with Mark Prysock on RIMS's legislative priorities, Kristen talks about third-party-funded litigation. It affects risk managers, carriers, and brokers because of premium pricing. [15:06] It's necessary to have transparency around third-party-funded litigation and eliminate the ability of foreign entities to fund and profit from it. The concern is around nuclear verdicts that are detrimental to the industry as a whole. [15:39] Nuclear verdicts will impact pricing, not only for that one company but for all risk managers. These verdicts are not sustainable. We need transparency. We want Congress to act upon this. We can all get behind this. Kristen doesn't think this is a partisan issue. [15:58] Being able to partner with our carriers and brokers to have a strong message on the Hill is critical to the success and continuation of our industry. [16:08] Time and money are finite resources. There is no bottomless pit of money. [16:30] Kristen will soon be going to Capitol Hill with fellow risk practitioners for the RIMS Legislative Summit. [16:43] Kristen got involved in legislative advocacy after getting a mailer for the Legislative Summit. She attended and met the staff, including Robert Cartwright. She saw It was an amazing platform for risk managers to have their voices heard by the people they elect. [17:17] The RIMS Legislative Summit is one of Kristen's favorite annual events. It can be so impactful to the community as a whole. It will be March 19th and 20th. This is your last chance to register for it. Prepare for the trip to D.C. [17:54] March is Women's History Month. Kristen says she was lucky to have some key female leaders placed in her life at critical moments, that helped her down this path. [18:15] At CBIZ, Nancy Mallard was the GC for CBIZ's Benefits and Insurance Division. She was the first female chair of the CIAB (The Council). Kristen saw Nancy's leadership throughout the years in the industry. Kristen used her great example to figure out how to get involved at RIMS. [19:15] Kristen's new boss, Kathy Ross, is amazing. She's been a great advocate for Kristen and it has been awesome to learn from her how to elevate her leadership skills. Kristen feels blessed to have had these two impactful women in her life. [19:47] Sequoia's culture is paramount to its people. One of its service commandments is “Be of extraordinary value to others.” Sequoia's mission is “Coming through for others that put their trust in us.” Kristen takes these values to heart, whether in mentoring or calling on the phone.  [20:39] Kristen looks at how she can help create career paths for people and develop them, at Sequoia and in the risk community, as well. Kristen brings together interns and “externs” from other companies and stays in touch with them. She always asks them to pay the help forward. [21:35] Plug Time! Kristen Peed was a board member of the Spencer Educational Foundation. [21:41] The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved in part by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [21:59] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in general grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. [22:13] Spencer's 2026 application process will open on May 1st, 2025, and close on July 30th, 2025. General Grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's General Grants through the Programs tab of SpencerEd.org. [22:31] Spencer has several events lined up before and during RISKWORLD 2025. On May 3rd, there's the Spencer-CNA Pickle Ball Social, on May 4th, the Spencer-Gallagher Golf Tournament, on May 5th, the Spencer Soiree, and on May 6th, the Spencer-Sedgwick 5K Fun Run. [22:51] You can register for or sponsor any of these through the links on this page or by visiting SpencerEd.org/riskworld2025. [23:00] The Conclusion of My Interview with RIMS 2025 President, Kristen Peed! [23:27] Kristen's theme for her presidency is Brand New Day. Every day is a brand new day of risks. Every day, new risks are popping up. Whether AI, advancements in cyber threats, wildfires, or climate change, everything is changing. [24:12] It's a brand new day for risk managers. We have to be more nimble and strategic. That means it's a brand new day for RIMS. It's about how RIMS is going to support us in this moment and also as we move into the future, making sure we stay relevant for the next 75 years and on. [24:41] A new track, Alternative Risk Transfer, highly focused on captives, is being presented at RISKWORLD 2025. This is something risk managers have been asking to learn more about. It's part of the strategic conversation; how do you start to offer value back to your company? [25:09] How do you more strategically look at risk from a long-term perspective? That dovetails with Enterprise Risk Management. RIMS ERM content is relevant and has evolved over time. Captives will continue to be a value-generating part of the profession. [26:06] The 75th anniversary of RIMS is special for Kristen because it shows that RIMS has come so far. This year, RIMS is launching the RIMS Foundation to create opportunities for early-career students. That's the critical time to help them stay in the profession. [26:47] The RIMS Foundation will provide them with opportunities for growth, learning, and networking. This is a graying industry. We need to attract the next generation of talent to the industry and fill the pipeline with lots of people to backfill when current risk professionals retire. [27:21] Also in 2025, RIMS has a brand new Texas regional conference from August 4th through the 6th, on the San Antonio River Walk. People are reaching out to Kristen to submit sessions. It's exciting to see all the buzz around that conference. [28:35] Kristen's concludes: “Never quit learning. In my role, I've been doing this for two-plus decades, but I learn something new every day. When I took the RIMS-CRMP, I learned even more. It's the only risk management credential accredited by ANSI. Go and get your RIMS-CRMP.” [28:56] “It is one of the best educational opportunities you will have to demonstrate your proficiency and excellence and show your senior leadership team that you have the skills to elevate and provide strategic direction to your company.” [29:18] Justin notes that later this year, you can look for a RIMS-CRMP story, featuring RIMS 2025 President Kristen Peed. [29:23] Kristen, it is such a pleasure to see you! I'm so happy that you're our president this year and I'm happy for your continued success. I look forward to being able to celebrate with you in May at RISKWORLD 2025! [29:35] Kristen says she is honored to lead RIMS this year but it wouldn't be possible without all the other volunteer risk professionals around the world, all our chapter leaders, all committee members, and all our council volunteers. [29:53] Kristen wants to thank everybody who donates their time and energy to making RIMS so relevant and future-thinking. I could not do what I do without your support. [30:10] Special thanks again to RIMS 2025 President, Kristen Peed. Be sure to catch her at RISKWORLD 2025. She will have a presence on the main stage and during many of the ceremonies. Be sure to register for RISKWORLD 2025 at RIMS.org/riskworld. [30:23] More RIMS Plugs! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [30:48] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [31:05] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [31:21] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [31:35] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [31:48] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. 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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Our guest, Nicole Sherwin, Chief Impact Officer of EcoVadis, explains her ESG philosophy, and how her role as EcoVadis Chief Impact Officer works with sustainability, including climate-related risks, human rights, transparency in supply chains, and sustainability supply chain regulations. Nicole and Justin discuss each of these topics and how companies can improve their sustainability metrics. Nicole points out the incentives companies have to demonstrate to investors and institutions more transparency in their supply chains. She notes tools and frameworks companies can use for supply chain ESG and sustainability reporting. Listen for a perspective on adding sustainability compliance to your organization's supply chain. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:14] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! RIMS wants you to Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow with RIMS at RISKWORLD from May 4th through May 7th in Chicago, Illinois. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and the link in this episode's show notes. [:30] About this episode. We will discuss sustainability and supply chain risk with our guest, EcoVadis Chief Impact Officer Nicole Sherwin. [:55] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! The next workshop will be March 19th and 20th. Register by March 12th. As part of our continuing strategic partnership with Purima, we have a two-day course coming up April 22nd and 23rd. [1:12] LInks to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:20] Virtual Workshops! “Managing Data for ERM” will be hosted by Pat Saporito. That course starts on March 12th, 2025. On March 26th, Pat will also host “Generative AI for Risk Management.” [1:38] On April 16th and 17th, Chris Hansen will lead “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability, and Employment Practices in the U.S.”  [1:51] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:02] RISKWORLD registration is open. Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow, May 4th through 7th in Chicago. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [2:20] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” “Contractual Risk Transfer,” “Fundamentals of Insurance,” “Fundamentals of Risk Management,” RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep, and more! Links are in the show notes. [2:43] Between tariffs, climate threat, and geopolitical instability, now is a good time to reexamine your supply chain risk management practices, especially in front of April, which is Supply Chain Integrity Month. [2:57] Joining us today to discuss the role that sustainability efforts can play in managing supply chain risk is Nicole Sherwin, the Chief Impact Officer at EcoVadis, a provider of business sustainability ratings and insights. There's much to discuss about sustainability, ESG, and more! [3:17] Interview! Nicole Sherwin, welcome to RIMScast! [3:40] Nicole holds that businesses have a unique opportunity to magnify the positive social and environmental impacts of the things they do and where they engage. [3:56] Nicole is especially passionate about sustainable supply chains and the B2B relationship between buyers and suppliers. Procurement, the function that works with suppliers, holds a lot of power, in deciding which suppliers to spend money with. [4:13] Procurement wants to work with suppliers who can demonstrate they are strong partners in all senses of the word, but increasingly in managing their business's sustainability. [4:22] It can reduce risk, increase resilience, and open collaboration opportunities for procurement teams to drive growth and value for their business. [4:35] Procurement can leverage sustainability innovations of products and services of their suppliers into the design and selling of their products and services, which helps them meet the demands of customers and unlock new markets. That excites Nicole. [4:59] EcoVadis is a purpose-driven company, as stated in its corporate bylaws. Its purpose is to guide all companies toward a sustainable world. [5:14] Nicole's role as Chief Impact Officer is similar to a Chief Sustainability Officer. Part of her role is responsibility for implementing best-in-class sustainability practices internally. Some of those practices are set science-based carbon reduction targets. [5:31] EcoVadis runs a program with its suppliers to engage them in sustainable practices. [5:35] The bigger impact EcoVadis can have is via its solutions and driving sustainability transformation with its customers. EcoVadis is dedicated to embedding sustainability data and intelligence into business decisions. [5:50] EcoVadis has sustainability ratings and data it provides to help businesses benchmark themselves and improve their performance on environmental and social topics. It focuses on global supply chains and procurement organizations that engage their suppliers. [6:08] The impact EcoVadis has is as an enabler to guide companies to improve their practices on decarbonization, working conditions, and human rights, to create stronger sustainability performance with more resilient supply chains. [6:19] KPIs are important ways to measure. Action can be even more important. Don't wait to get the right measurement or figure out how to measure. Get to action, maybe specifically on decarbonization, where some of the metrics and KPIs might be hard to get to. [6:46] Nicole believes there are many risks to global supply chains. Some are geopolitical instability, tariffs impacting trade, and increased cyber attacks on critical infrastructure as things are becoming more digitalized. [7:05] Nicole mentions four sustainability topics. The first is climate-related risks, including extreme weather events, natural disasters, and long-term climactic changes, like rising temperatures and sea levels. Climate impacts raw material availability or shortages. [7:27] Droughts and changes in weather affect agricultural productivity. Weather could be linked to transportation and distribution disruption with infrastructure damages and closure of routes that impact business continuity. [7:45] The second sustainability topic is human rights and forced labor risks. These can be hard to detect. EcoVadis customers, working with their supply chain, have a strong focus on identifying and remediating those risks. [8:02] The third sustainability topic is the lack of transparency in the supply chain. Many companies are only scratching the surface of the potential risks as they engage their direct or tier-one suppliers. Behind the tier-one supplier are different products and raw materials. [8:23] How do you understand who those suppliers are and what are their ethical standards for sourcing and labor practices? [8:30] The fourth sustainability topic is ESG or sustainability supply chain regulations. Supply chains are complex. They're global. They could go deep into the multi-tier. Getting supply chain data needed for compliance is also complex. [8:45] The ESG regulation space is evolving. It's a moving target, both in the U.S. and in Europe. Being late or not being prepared for these regulations is a risk. [9:01] Plug Time! The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved in part by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [9:21] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in general grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. [9:35] Spencer's 2026 application process will open on May 1st, 2025, and close on July 30th, 2025. General Grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's Grants through the Programs tab of SpencerEd.org. [9:54] Spencer Day is an annual virtual event where the risk management and insurance communities come together to celebrate the Spencer Educational Foundation and the incredible work they do to attract and retain talent in the risk management and insurance professions. [10:10] It's never too late to donate. You can send a belated Spencer Day card. This year, the Foundation is seeking donations of $46 in honor of Spencer's 46th year of operations. Visit SpencerEd.org/spencer-day for more details and donate. [10:34] Every contribution is an investment in the future of risk management. We appreciate your support. [10:40] Let's Get Back to Our Interview with Nicole Sherwin of EcoVadis! [11:02] Organizations can focus on sustainable procurement, creating an end-to-end program with suppliers, identifying where the risk is, assessing the performance, closing the gaps, and driving improvements on ethical, social, and environmental topics. That's a key foundation. [11:22] This can be done with on-site audits, online questionnaires, certifications that can be collected, and verification technology. Companies are deploying targeted engagements with suppliers that align with their corporate sustainability goals. [11:39] Decarbonization of the supply chain is a key sustainability goal. It starts by understanding a supplier's carbon footprint. [11:47] A vast majority of the supply chain is small-to-medium companies (SMEs) in emerging markets. They don't know where to start calculating their Scope 1 and Scope 2 indirect emissions. There are a lot of carbon estimators that can support suppliers to calculate those. [12:03] These estimates can be used by procurement organizations to calculate their Scope 3 emissions. [12:11] Nicole talks of transitioning to renewable energy sources, energy-efficient buildings, and manufacturing equipment, depending on the industry, optimizing transport, and localizing sourcing. Can you get closer to the source from the suppliers you're working with? [12:34] Look for eco-friendly materials that can be reused and recycled at the end of life. Use life-cycle assessments (LCA). Some tools can be used to support sustainable product design. [12:58] Life cycle assessments require a level of expertise. Tools and technologies for LCA are becoming much more advanced and make it easier for SMEs to adopt at-scale deployments across multiple product areas. [13:26] Dimensions of ROI can be incorporated into sustainability. The centerpiece of sustainability is looking at the environmental and social impacts of materials. Figuring ROI on a sustainability initiative is complex. [14:12] EcoVadis did a report with Bain, “ESG Financial Performance.” Companies at the forefront of working on sustainable procurement have a profitability margin of three percentage points above those who don't focus on their suppliers' environmental and ethical practices. [14:32] That research also showed that companies in natural resources, transportation, or industrial goods that had a high EcoVadis rating on their sustainability performance had higher EBITDA margins. [14:53] Nicole says, succeeding with sustainability means thinking about it as an integrated approach to solving these core business challenges. Sustainability can reduce risk, increase resilience, and drive innovation and sales revenue through the offering of sustainable solutions. [15:24] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On March 13th, our friends from Global Risk Consultants will return to discuss “How to Make Your Property Insurance Submission AI-Ready”. [15:30] On Wednesday, March 26th at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time, members of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council will extend the dialog that began in the recent RIMS Executive Report “Understanding Interconnected Risks”. [15:53] On Thursday, March 27th, Descartes Underwriting will make its RIMS Webinar debut with a session about parametric insurance. On April 10th, Audit Board will present, “What Non-CISO Risk Executives Should Know about Cyber Risks in 2025.” [16:09] Following the success of their recent webinar, HUB International returns for the next installment of their Ready for Tomorrow Series, “From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach”. That session will be on April 17th. [16:24] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [16:36] The Conclusion of My Interview with EcoVadis Chief Impact Officer, Nicole Sherwin! [16:51] Nicole shares some sustainability plan pointers. Having a data-driven approach is key, using accurate, verified data to measure progress and inform decision-making. EcoVadis issues a Sustainable Procurement Barometer every three years. It was updated at the end of 2024. [17:10] Companies that were showing a high level of maturity in sustainability and ESG were more than two times more likely to engage key stakeholders strategically with data. The C-Suite cares about KPIs. Being able to show performance and outputs catches their attention. [17:33] Taking a data-driven approach, even if it's starting with a small set of data from proof of concept of deployment can be a way to get their attention and bring in additional investment. Cross-department collaboration is key. Sustainability is a responsibility across the organization. [17:55] We increasingly see that sustainability is integrated into performance bonuses, not just for senior executives, but also for managers across departments. It's a company-wide initiative to drive sustainability. [18:06] In the Sustainable Procurement Barometer, 45% of the suppliers say that they see sustainability as important to their customers and are engaged about it as partners. However, 46% see it as important to their customers but don't find it in their relationship. [18:28] Sometimes Procurement can see a risk in the supply chain we see as important but they don't have enough of a program around embedding collaboration with a supplier. [18:40] Collaboration can be putting it in contract clauses, setting sustainability targets to where they want to see them improve, and running capability building and training in decarbonization. [19:13] Forced labor can lie under the surface if you don't look for it. EcoVadis customers are looking to understand where human rights and forced labor are happening in the supply chain.  [19:29] One effective technology is engaging workers through automated worker surveys and grievance mechanisms, directly to workers through SMS or WhatsApp. It's been extraordinarily powerful, allowing companies to work on remediation efforts. [20:47] Nicole thinks the SEC's decision to pause indefinitely its Climate Disclosure Rules will have an impact on corporate accountability. Companies are not being mandated to disclose on climate. However, from an investor perspective, the demand for disclosure is still there. [21:08] For investors, these regulations are seen in a positive light for those assessing climate-related risk, and wanting to accelerate investment toward a more sustainable economy. They want standardized and comparable data to manage these risks and impacts. [21:27] Companies face a potential loss of investment opportunities if they don't disclose climate impact data in a common format. [21:36] Companies will have to decide if they're going to voluntarily disclose climate-related information or not. They will have to if they want to be considered by investors, or even financial institutions, who are increasingly requesting this kind of information for lending or underwriting. [21:54] There are international standards that continue to emphasize consistent reporting. The Task Force on Climate-Related Financial Disclosures (TCFD) is one. The Sustainability Standards Board offers The Climate-Related Risk Disclosure Framework. [22:15] Companies can voluntarily report their climate-related risk using the available frameworks. [22:27] Companies know that there is a reputation risk to transparency. For some companies, up to 90% of their carbon footprint is in their supply chain. Getting that data and driving reductions in their supply chain is complicated. [22:52] The economic driver of investors and access to finance are incentives for companies to disclose climate-related risk data. Each company has to decide. [23:41] Nicole thinks that ESG is under fire in the U.S. However, she believes that the ESG frameworks supported by the risk community help businesses anticipate and manage risks. That's not going anywhere. There's a business imperative here. [24:17] Companies that get this understand and have the experience of how sustainability interconnects to core business goals of risk, resilience, competitiveness, and unlocking new market share, driving new sales with demand for sustainability solutions and products. [24:38] The market's focus on long-term resilience will keep it at the forefront. Those companies that are committing to it will be able to demonstrate resilience and transcend other companies that drop ESG for now. [24:49] We're ending on a hopeful note. Nicole, it's been a pleasure, of course, and it's very insightful to get a glimpse into your mind and perspective. Thank you so much for joining us here on RIMScast! Happy Supply Chain Integrity Month to you! [25:11] Special thanks again to Nicole Sherwin of EcoVadis for joining us here on RIMSCast! Links to RIMS resources about sustainability and supply chain risk are in this episode's show notes. [25:24] We've got more supply chain coverage coming up ahead of Supply Chain Integrity Month in April. Stay tuned! [25:31] More RIMS Plugs! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [25:59] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [26:17] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [26:34] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [26:50] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [27:04] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [27:12] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7. | Register today! RIMS Legislative Summit — March 19‒20, 2025 Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Risk Management magazine www.EcoVadis.com RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “How to Make Your Property Insurance Submission AI-Ready” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company | March 13, 2025 “Understanding Interconnected Risks” | Presented by RIMS and the Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council | March 26, 2025 “Parametric Insurance and Climate Risk: An Innovative Tool for CAT Risk Management” | Sponsored by Descartes Underwriting | March 27, 2025 “Ready for Tomorrow? From Defense to Prevention: Strengthening Your Liability Risk Management Approach” | Sponsored by Hub International | April 17, 2025   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP | March 19‒20 | Register by March 12 RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA | April 22‒23 Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: “Managing Data for ERM” | March 12 | Instructor: Pat Saporito “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability and Employment Practices in the US” | April 16‒17 | Instructor: Chris Hansen See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Kicking off 2025 with RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche” “RIMS Legislative Priorities in 2025 with Mark Prysock” “(Re)Humanizing Leadership in Risk Management with Holly Ransom” (RISKWORLD Keynote) “Risk and Relatability with Rachel DeAlto”, RISKWORLD Keynote “Risk and Leadership Patterns with Super Bowl Champion Ryan Harris” (RISKWORLD Keynote) “Kicking off 2025 with RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring RIMS Vice President Manny Padilla!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Nicole Sherwin, Chief Impact Officer of EcoVadis   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Our guest, Holly Ransom, an internationally acclaimed speaker and leadership trailblazer, will be a keynote speaker on May 6th at RISKWORLD 2025 in Chicago. Holly previews her keynote as well as shares nuggets of risk knowledge she has collected throughout her career. Holly gives tips for leadership qualities and skills that are needed more than ever in this uncertain environment. She speaks of resilient leadership and confidence in crises. She tells how to recover a strong brand from a crisis when handled properly. She speaks of the importance of lifelong learning, not as an ideal but as a practice. Listen for Holly's keynote theme and her advice for leaders today in this insightful episode. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:14] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! RIMS wants you to Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow in Chicago from May 4th through May 7th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and the link in this episode's show notes. [:29] Register now! The Super Savings Rate ends on February 28th! [:37] About this episode. We will be joined by Holly Ransom, who is one of the keynote speakers who will be on the main stage at RISKWORLD 2025 on May 6th. We will get a preview of her session, “Humanizing Leadership in a Tech-Enhanced World.” [1:10] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! RIMS will partner with Purima once again on March 5th and 6th to deliver a virtual RIMS-CRMP Prep Course. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:30] Virtual Workshops! “Managing Data for ERM” will be hosted by Pat Saporito. That course starts on March 12th, 2025. On March 26th, Pat will also host “Generative AI for Risk Management.” [1:52] On April 16th and 17th, Chris Hansen will lead “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability, and Employment Practices in the U.S.”  [2:05] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:16] RISKWORLD registration is open. Take advantage of our Super Savings Rate by February 28th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Also, remember there will be lots of pre-conference workshops being held in Chicago just ahead of RISKWORLD. [2:34] These courses include “Applying and Integrating ERM,” “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique,” “Contractual Risk Transfer,” “Fundamentals of Insurance,” “Fundamentals of Risk Management,” RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep, and more! Links are in the show notes. [2:55] Our guest today is Holly Ransom, and she is one of the keynote speakers who will be on the main stage on May 6th at RISKWORLD. She will lead the session “Humanizing Leadership in a Tech-Enhanced World.” We're going to get a preview of her presentation. [3:08] Holly will also talk about some of the world leaders she has shared the stage with and why she found them impactful. [3:17] Interview! Holly Ransom, welcome to RIMScast! [3:24] At RISKWORLD 2025, on May 6th, Holly Ransom will present a TED-style talk, “Humanizing Leadership in a Tech-Enchanced World.” [3:41] Holly can't wait to be there in Chicago. She is excited that so many will be attending! Her keynote goal is to explore how important authenticity, empathy, and purpose in leadership are amid technological change. [3:59] It's easy to lose sight of authenticity in an industry that's all about metrics and frameworks. We need to maintain that focus on building resilient teams that can navigate uncertainty with confidence and clarity. That's what Holly will share at RISKWORLD. [4:34] Holly will be diving into the high-performing culture element. A lot of Holly's work with high-performing sports teams and in the corporate landscape is about how to get collective effectiveness. [4:45] Holly's keynote will pull on those insights to ask what it looks like to influence positively the environment to get the best out of the people around her, maximize creativity, and seize the innovation opportunity. That will be where it comes together in her conversation. [5:22] Holly discusses the metrics of success. It depends on the organization. There are performance metrics for revenue and reputation that show how effective a business is. She talks about looking beyond traditional KPIs to other ways to measure effectiveness. [5:51] These other measures may include new products to market, rate of innovation, successful growth of new products versus legacy brands, psychological safety scores, team engagement, and recognition. [6:12] Holly looks for proactive measures and team collaboration quality. That's a combination of metrics beyond what organizations have traditionally measured. Pick out of the KPI soup the ones that benefit you. Which ones measure the needle moving in your organization? [7:01] Holly has spoken at events within the risk industry. RISKWORLD will be her largest risk management speaking event. [7:23] Holly sees the risk profession as having an incredibly important role, making sure that safety is maintained and people safely get to where they want to go, inside their organizations.  [7:39] These are the people laying down strategy and setting the innovation roadmap, and how we get there while maintaining the expectations of our customers, standards for our employees, and the license we have to operate within our community and the broader society. [8:05] Holly says risk management is one of the most complex jobs inside an organization. Holly worked in large corporations in mining and banking early in her career. She spent a lot of time with CROs. Their risk reports to the board were around 150 pages, before cyber frontier. [8:44] Holly has empathy for risk managers who must influence other executives to understand the risk agenda and embrace and support it. The skills of risk professionals have probably never mattered more as we navigate the complexity. [9:30] The 150-page risk reports Holly saw in her corporate career were filled with information, including heatmaps. It was important to call attention to what mattered most and report it realistically while discharging risk duties responsibly. It's an interesting tightrope to walk. [10:22] Holly mentions the role that smart risk plays in innovation and progress. In high-performing teams, if you keep doing the same thing, you can't maintain your competitive edge. There is always an element of risk in the evolution of strategy and approach. [10:49] Netflix embraced risk in its strategy of pivoting away from rental to streaming, first with owned content and now into live sports. There were difficulties, but now Netflix is one of the most successful stories of the last 20 years. [11:52] Netflix was prepared to “cannibalize” itself and jump on what it saw as an emerging technology opportunity to stake out a new business model. Netflix continues to add new subscribers. [12:40] What can leaders learn from Netflix? Ask yourself what you are doing as a leader to build your peripheral vision. How do you make sure you're not getting caught in the way you do things or the way your industry operates? [13:02] How do you expand your view so change does not catch you off-guard and the opportunities and threats that come are things that you as a leader are beginning to think about? AI could be an example of something relevant to leaders at the moment. [13:21] Ask what's the question you need to be reflecting on. What's the strategic question you can take to your leadership team or board that allows you to get into a “meaty” conversation on the topic with ideas on how the board wants to respond to it, proactively versus reactively? [13:40] How are you keeping your finger on the pulse? Do you have a source outside your deep industry expertise or outside where you operate? Are you having periodic conversations with a leader in another industry sharing observations and data points? [14:06] How do you turn an observation into a question that sparks the thinking and the conversation that can be the catalyst for transformation? Get into conversations with your colleagues. What does this mean for us and how can we do something significant for us with it? [14:27] Netflix started very early in strategic conversation and prepared to take strategic bets on what part of its portfolio and what allocation of its resources to give to this new idea. [14:41] You see this process in a range of businesses, however they structure it. Some businesses have an innovation arm. Other places have a budget allocation per department for new ideas each year. [15:05] There needs to be a meaningful skin in the game each year, building the muscle of working up an idea and attempting execution. That allows you to get real opportunities, rather than just intellectualizing risk. What will you learn in the process to try better next time? [15:35] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On March 13th, our friends from Global Risk Consultants will return to discuss “How to Make Your Property Insurance Submission AI-Ready”. [15:49] On a unique day and time, March 26th at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time, members of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council will extend the dialog that began in the recent RIMS Executive Report “Understanding Interconnected Risks”. [16:07] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [16:19] Nominations are also open for the Donald M. Stuart Award which recognizes excellence in risk management in Canada. [16:27] The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved in part by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [16:46] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in general grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. [16:59] Spencer's 2026 application process will open on May 1st, 2025, and close on July 30th, 2025. General Grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's Grants through the Programs tab of SpencerEd.org. [17:18] The Conclusion of My Interview with Upcoming RISKWORLD 2025 Keynote, Holly Ransom! [17:37] Holly has been to Chicago and loves it, but not Chicago winters! This will be Justin's first time in Chicago. He'll do the generic bucket list Chicago stuff when he finds a couple of pockets of time, to enhance the experience. [18:34] During the pandemic, there were studies done on leadership communication during a crisis. There was a difference between leaders in companies who performed well in the face of adversity, versus others. [18:58] There was a big piece around leaders who could demonstrate authentic concern. An example of this was New Zealand's former Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, after the terrorist attack in Christchurch. [19:14] She had an incredible ability to show empathy and to see it as a moment of extreme sadness; an opportunity to bring the nation together. [19:31] Successful leaders in crisis focus on what they can control and communicate with a transparent confidence. Ed Bastian at Delta did a good job managing the 2017 system outage across Delta. He appeared in a video message to customers within hours and took ownership. [20:12] He offered compensation proactively versus reactively, making it right for his customers, knowing that how he handled the situation would set Delta's reputation and make the comeback stronger. [20:29] You can build back a stronger brand and reputation by how you handle a crisis. You can have a higher brand score after a crisis you've handled well. Your relationships need to be in hand before the crisis. Be proactive in stakeholder relations so there are credits “in the bank.” [21:08] Then, when the crisis comes, you can call in favors and ask people to come in, in support. Those people show up. [22:04] Holly describes her feelings on giving a keynote. She loves it. She says she's on the strange end of the psych profile, in liking to be in front of an audience and talking. Holly says that for her, there is nothing more precious than people's time. [22:25] She calls it a privilege to have time to impart a message. Her goal is always to give the audience practical tools and new ideas that leave them feeling empowered and less overwhelmed, with things they can immediately put to work to enhance their effectiveness. [22:56] Holly wants to practically equip leaders as she feels we are in desperate need of new tools to help us overcome the overwhelm, make sense of the complexity, and find our way through the uncertainty. [23:23] Justin checked out Holly's highlight reel where she has hosted sessions with major world leaders, including former President Barack Obama. Of everyone she has shared a stage with, who stood out to her as a magnetic personality? [24:06] Matthew McConaughey comes to mind as someone who has real confidence in himself, doesn't take himself too seriously, is very funny, engaging, extroverted, and is a natural storyteller. He is as delightful offstage as he is on. [24:25] Without exception, the world leaders Holly has had the privilege of interviewing and hosting, tend to be incredible communicators and have an “X” factor to them. [24:57] Brené Brown was warm, authentically passionate about the work that she does, and genuine in her desire to connect and converse. Holly said Brené Brown was everything you would hope she would be. [25:55] Holly's last thoughts for leaders of the risk profession: There is an increasing communication demand on every leader to be a storyteller, to be able to cut through because the world has never been noisier, and to help people make sense of what they're saying. [26:20] People feel overloaded. Uncertainty leads to a bias of inaction rather than action. Risk professionals need to cultivate the skill of storytelling and influencing to convey the critical information they have to stakeholders who don't have the same depth of understanding. [26:55] We give a lot of lip service to life-long learning. We need to start practicing what we preach, getting “in the gym” and building that new muscle, whatever you can do to widen your view into topics that may not have been traditionally part of your wheelhouse, like AI. [27:23] AI is becoming increasingly important to understand opportunities and risks. Have you humbled yourself and been a beginner and gotten on the tools, played with them, and taken a master class, to get your hand around it and think about what it means for your organization? [27:52] It could be GenZ coming in. Do you have a mentor under the age of 26? Think about that if you haven't. There could be a whole range of factors that are looming as things that are going to reset the table. What are you doing to build your understanding and experience? [28:36] Holly, it has been such a pleasure to speak with you and meet you, in advance of your presence at RISKWORLD 2025. I can't wait to see you on May 6th! You're going to be fantastic, along with Ryan and Rachel! It's been insightful to speak with you, I appreciate you very much! [29:02] Special thanks again to Holly Ransom for joining us on RIMScast! You can learn more about her at HollyRansom.com. We look forward to seeing Holly at RISKWORLD 2025 on the main stage on May 6th. [29:15] Remember to register for RISKWORLD at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. Recent episodes with the other keynote speakers, Ryan Harris and Rachel DeAlto, are now in this episode's show notes. Remember to lock in that Sweet Super Rate for RISKWORLD 2025 before March 1st! [29:35] More RIMS Plugs! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [30:04] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [30:22] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [30:40] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [30:56] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [31:10] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [31:17] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7 | Register today! | Super savings rate ends Feb. 28. RIMS Legislative Summit — March 19‒20, 2025 Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Texas Regional Conference 2025 | Submit an Educational Session by Feb. 24. RIMS Risk Management magazine Hollyransom.com RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “How to Make Your Property Insurance Submission AI-Ready” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company | March 13, 2025 “Understanding Interconnected Risks” | Presented by RIMS and the Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council | March 26, 2025   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA | March 5‒6 and April 22‒23 | Virtual Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: “Applying and Integrating ERM” | Feb. 26‒27 | Instructor: Elise Farnham “Managing Data for ERM” | March 12 | Instructor: Pat Saporito “Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability and Employment Practices in the US” | April 16‒17 | Instructor: Chris Hansen See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Risk and Relatability with Rachel DeAlto, RISKWORLD Keynote” “Risk and Leadership Patterns with Super Bowl Champion Ryan Harris” (RISKWORLD Keynote) “Kicking off 2025 with RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring RIMS Vice President Manny Padilla!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Holly Ransom, internationally acclaimed speaker and leadership trailblazer   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Our guest, Mark Prysock, RIMS General Counsel & VP of External Affairs, is here to tell us about the RIMS Legislative Summit 2025, in Washington D.C. on March 19th and 20th. Mark shares the top five RIMS legislative priorities, what they mean, and how they impact the risk management profession. These include the need to regulate private third-party legislation funding, data privacy, and cyber security, the National Flood Insurance Program, non-profit tax reform, and the Investing in Tomorrow's Workforce Act, liberalizing College 529s to allow using them for certifications. Listen for details on the RIMS Legislative Summit 2025, why you should attend, and what you can expect from it. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:15] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! RIMS wants you to Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow in Chicago from May 4th through May 7th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and the link in this episode's show notes. [:33] About this episode. We will be joined by RIMS General Counsel and Vice President for External Affairs, Mark Prysock to discuss RIMS's legislative priorities and the RIMS Legislative Summit.. [:59] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! RIMS will partner with Purima once again on March 5th and 6th to deliver a virtual RIMS-CRMP Prep Course. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:18] Virtual Workshops! On February 26th and 27th, Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting will lead “Applying and Integrating ERM”. “Managing Data for ERM” will be hosted by Pat Saporito. That course starts on March 12th, 2025. [1:44] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [1:55] RISKWORLD registration is open. Take advantage of our Super Savings Rate by February 28th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [2:07] Speaking of RISKWORLD, next week, we will have one of the main stage keynotes, Holly Ransom, join us. Be sure to subscribe to RIMScast to make sure you get that episode as it comes out! [2:19] Today's episode is all about RIMS's legislative priorities and how those priorities will be addressed at the RIMS Legislative Summit 2025, March 19th and 20th in Washington, D.C. You can learn more about it at RIMS.org/advocacy. [2:37] One of my favorite RIMS colleagues is here to discuss all things legislation. Mark Prysock is our General Counsel and Vice President for External Affairs. [2:48] Mark is the point person for the RIMS Legislative Summit 2025, helping to ensure that our priorities at RIMS are communicated on behalf of our members to representatives in Congress. [3:02] Mark is going to join me today to discuss the top five RIMS legislative priorities in a little bit more detail, provide some additional perspective, and discuss the agenda a little bit, which will be finalized soon. [3:19] Interview! Mark Prysock, welcome back to RIMScast! [3:26] The RIMS Legislative Summit 2025 will be held on March 19th and 20th in Washington, D.C. This is a different time of year to host the summit. It was formerly held in September or October, depending on whether it was an election year. [3:56] Mark says the event was shifted to March because Congress, in general, seems to be fatigued by the end of the year. By September or October, it seemed that Congress was pretty much done with what they planned to get done for the year already. [4:13] RIMS thought it would make sense to meet with them in the first quarter of the year rather than the last quarter and see if they can't get more engagement or interest in RIMS's issues. Mark is excited about this change to March for the Summit. Congress will be newly in session. [4:41] The Summit participants will be meeting some new committee chairs and ranking members for the first time. This is going to be a great shift for the RIMS Legislative Summit. [5:02] This year will be a little different because there is going to be a significant tax bill passed. In 2017 there was a large package of temporary tax cuts which are set to expire this year. No one in Congress wants those tax cuts to expire and hit the American people with a tax hike. [5:27] To extend those tax cuts, Congress has to find other ways to generate tax revenue. So there will probably be a big tax bill this year. This is a good time to engage with the broader association community and members of Congress on these issues. [6:05] Mark says the Congressional Budget Office will rate how much of an impact, positively or negatively, a bill is going to have on the government's finances. Eight years was the maximum they could push out these tax cuts without the government going over the tax cliff. [6:30] These temporary tax cuts are set to expire in September. Congress will need to do something about that. [6:39] The top five RIMS legislative priorities are listed on the RIMS.org site. Please see the link in this episode's show notes. Justin and RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche discussed these legislative priorities in a recent RIMScast episode. [7:07] The top five legislative priorities, in no particular order, include third-party litigation funding. This issue is gaining a lot of traction in Washington. Mark defines third-party litigation funding as private investors backing civil litigation with significant sums of money. [7:39] There are currently no disclosure requirements. It can be a national security risk when foreign agents fund litigation here in the United States. Funders are often in a position to take control of litigation. They often get paid before the claimants and there is little regulation. [8:23] On both sides of the aisle, there's a feeling that Congress needs to adopt, at least, some disclosure requirements so the courts and arguably, the other parties to the lawsuit are aware of who is backing this litigation. [8:43] RIMS is particularly concerned about the national security threat. There could be bad players from around the world funding litigation against American businesses. This concern seems to be gaining traction in the House and the Senate. [9:08] RIMS is very happy to be actively involved in a broader group that's working on this issue. [9:27] The Plaintiffs Bar loves third-party litigation funding because it can make filing and pursuing lawsuits extremely profitable. They may not embrace limits on it. [10:10] Another legislative priority is data privacy and cyber security. RIMS is interested in having Congress pass a uniform data privacy law. Right now, there's a patchwork of state laws that your company needs to know if it operates in multiple jurisdictions. It's not an easy thing to do. [10:45] The last session of Congress came close to passing a Uniform Data Privacy Bill. That bill had a couple of significant flaws. It created carve-outs for the laws of favored states such as California, New York, and Massachusetts. [11:24] It also created a private right of action so individuals could sue companies for failing to comply with this law. The outcome of those cases would be on a state-by-state basis. Over time, this would lead to a patchwork of state laws. [11:48] RIMS is hoping to get a better version of the unified standard bill passed this session. [11:53] RIMS is looking for a reauthorization of the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP), currently part of the Continuing Resolution funding the federal government. It's “must pass” legislation. Few serious lawmakers would consider it good to shut down the government. [12:25] The Continuing Resolution gets renewed regularly. The NFIP, rolled up into it, also gets renewed regularly. It's hard to make structural enhancements to a program that is part of the Continuing Resolution. The CR is often passed at the last minute; it's hard to change it. [13:21] Non-profit Tax Reform is a new issue. It's in a tax bill being considered to generate revenue to cover extending the expiring tax cuts. Tax-exempt organizations pay taxes on unrelated business income, which is a foggy area. Many organizations don't pay any tax. [13:54] There is a movement to reconsider non-profit tax exemptions. The idea is that the corporate tax rate, currently 21%, should be levied against all non-donation revenue that associations and non-profit organizations generate. [14:10] For RIMS, that would include event revenue, sponsorships, royalties, membership dues, and any other non-donation revenue. It's a significant deal. [14:29] Mark sees two drivers to this idea. The first is, that Congress does need to find a big pot of money to make sure the government doesn't go off this tax cliff. The second is an intellectual argument that it's time to take another look at why we're not taxing these organizations more. [14:52] It's a significant issue for RIMS and the association community at large because of the financial hit they could all take. Mark believes it will be considered by Congress relatively early this year. [15:05] Justin adds a statement that “RIMS has joined the steering committee of ASAE's Community Impact Coalition to protect the non-profit community and educate Congress on the societal benefits of the tax-exempt sector.” [15:21] ASAE is the American Society of Association Executives. It's an association for association people. Justin met some of the ASAE executives at an NYSAE event last year. They are all in alignment on this issue. [15:43] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! HUB International continues its Ready for Tomorrow Series with RIMS. On February 20th, they will host “Ready for the Unexpected? Strategies for Property Valuation, Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity in 2025”. [16:03] On March 13th, our friends from Global Risk Consultants will return to discuss “How to Make Your Property Insurance Submission AI-Ready”. [16:13] On a unique day and time, March 26th at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Time, members of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council will extend the dialog that began in the recent RIMS Executive Report “Understanding Interconnected Risks”. [16:31] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [16:43] Nominations are also open for the Donald M. Stuart Award which recognizes excellence in risk management in Canada. Links are in this episode's show notes. [16:54] The First of (hopefully) Many RIMS Texas Regional Conferences will be held in San Antonio from August 4th through 6th, 2025. The Risk Management Roundup in San Antonio is set to unite the Texas RIMS Chapters and welcome risk professionals from around the world. [17:13] You can join as a speaker. The Conference Planning Committee is interested in submissions that explore technology and cyber risk, workforce protection and advancement, energy and sustainability, extreme weather, construction, restaurant, retail, hospitality, and more. [17:35] The deadline to submit your proposal is Monday, February 24th. The link to the event and the submission process is in this episode's show notes. Go check it out! [17:47] Let's Return to My Interview with RIMS General Counsel & VP of External Affairs, Mark Prysock! [17:58] The fifth RIMS top legislative priority is the Invest in Tomorrow's Workforce Act. That has emerged in the last year or so, about 529 Savings Plans. In the last Congress, there was strong bi-partisan, bi-cameral support to pass this legislation. [18:15] This bill would allow College 529 plans to be used to pay for certification programs, like the RIMS-CRMP. There's a strong coalition, led by ASAE, that emerged last year to get this legislation moving. [19:06] This bill would benefit association members in two ways: Members with 529 plans could use them for certifications, and many associations have certification programs that would benefit if 529 dollars were used to pay for them. [19:34] Will all five priorities be addressed on Capitol Hill during the Summit? Mark will prep RIMS members to go forward and talk about all five issues. It's possible that some of the issues will not have surfaced enough for RIMS members to spend a lot of time discussing them. [19:50] If no House or Senate bill has been introduced on the issue, it would be premature to try to have a conversation about it with a Congressional staffer or a member of Congress. On the other hand, an issue may already have been settled and wouldn't be a priority to discuss. [20:23] Mark is moving forward with the idea that there will probably be five issues, but practically speaking, it may work out to be three. [20:39] The agenda for the Legislative Summit is on the RIMS Advocacy page. Click on the Register Now button to see it. [20:58] Mark gives an overview of what to expect at the RIMS Legislative Summit 2025. Wednesday, March 19th, is Education Day, a crash course in legislation. U.S. Chamber lobbyists, members of the administration, members from Capitol Hill, and Mark will talk on these issues. [21:24] The idea is to make sure RIMS members are well-briefed before they go to the Hill. They will understand the key talking points and will have the key talking points in hand. It's very important to know what the “ask” is; what we are asking the members of Congress to do. [21:46] By the end of the day, the RIMS member will be prepped. On Wednesday evening there will be a nice reception. [21:56] Thursday, March 20th, is the day the RIMS members go to the Hill, meet with Congressional Staff, maybe meet with members of Congress, and talk about the RIMS legislative priorities. [22:38] Something Mark is working on and hopes to finalize and announce soon is a private tour of the U.S. Capitol Building on Tuesday, for those who arrive early enough. Tours are normally led by current or former members of Congress. The tours are entertaining and memorable. [23:09] Mark is a former Congressional staffer. He enjoyed working on Capitol Hill. He spent a lot of time sitting across the table from people like the RIMS members. He emphasizes that Congressional staff are more interested in hearing from you (constituents) than from lobbyists. [24:11] Don't in any way be intimidated by the thought of going up to Capitol Hill and lobbying. The staff do want to hear from you! [24:24] Mark and his experience help put the RIMS attendees at a little bit of an advantage in putting things in a way that will get through to the staffers and be heard. He speaks the language! [24:52] Mark, it has been a pleasure to see you. One thing I want to mention: Only U.S. RIMS members and individuals who are representing U.S.-based entities of RIMS can attend the RIMS Legislative Summit! You don't have to live in the U.S. to be an attendee. [25:16] Mark is looking for a keynote speaker to speak to the RIMS Legislative Summit 2025 at the reception on Wednesday the 19th. Stay tuned! [25:56] Special thanks again to RIMS General Counsel and Vice President of External Affairs, Mark Prysock. Learn more about RIMS advocacy efforts at RIMS.org/Advocacy. If you go there, you'll find the registration page for the RIMS Legislative Summit on March 19th and 20th, 2025. [26:18] More announcements about the summit will be made here on RIMScast as they are released. Also on the RIMS Advocacy page, check out the RISKPAC, the RIMS Political Action Committee, the Chapter Advocacy Ambassador program, and more. [26:33] More RIMS Plugs! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. [27:01] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [27:19] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [27:37] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [27:53] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [28:07] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [28:15] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7 | Register today! | Super savings rate ends Feb. 28. RIMS Legislative Summit — March 19‒20, 2025 RIMS Announces Legislative Priorities for 2025 Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Texas Regional Conference 2025 | Submit an Educational Session by Feb. 24. 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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Our guest, Communication and Relatability Expert Rachel DeAlto will be a keynote speaker on May 6th at RISKWORLD 2025. In this episode, Justin and Rachel discuss her career from insurance defense attorney to speaker, author, and startup leader. As a defense attorney, Rachel worked with risk management professionals. Rachel shares tips for creating connection, relatability, and trust. She speaks of authenticity within professional boundaries.   Listen for suggestions on developing empathy and establishing trust. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:15] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! RIMS wants you to Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow in Chicago from May 4th through May 7th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and the link in this episode's show notes. [:33] About this episode. Our guest is relatability and communication expert, Rachel DeAlto. She will be one of the keynote speakers at RISKWORLD 2025. [:59] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! On February 19th and 20th, a two-day virtual workshop for the RIMS-CRMP will be led by former RIMS President Chris Mandel and presented by the RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter, the 2024 RIMS Chapter of the Year. [1:21] RIMS will be partnering with Purima once again on March 5th and 6th to deliver a virtual RIMS-CRMP Prep Course. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:38] Virtual Workshops! Gail Kiyomura of The Art of Risk Consulting will host the “Fundamentals of Insurance” virtual workshop on February 19th and 20th, 2025. [1:53] On February 26th and 27th, Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting will lead “Applying and Integrating ERM”. “Managing Data for ERM” will be hosted by Pat Saporito. That course starts on March 12th, 2025. [2:14] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:25] The RIMS Legislative Summit 2025 is back! It will be held on March 19th and 20th in Washington, D.C. Join RIMS for two days of Congressional meetings, networking, and advocating on behalf of the risk management community. [2:43] This event is open for RIMS members only so if you're not a member, join now! Visit RIMS.org/advocacy for registration details. [2:51] RISKWORLD 2025 registration is open. Take advantage of our Super Savings Rate by February 28th. Speaking of RISKWORLD, that brings us to our very special guest. [3:03] Rachel DeAlto is a communication and relatability expert. She maintains a law degree and a master's in psychology and has achieved the designation of Certified Speaking Professional through the National Speakers Association. [3:17] Rachel is the author of Relatable: How to Connect with Anyone, Anywhere, (Even if it Scares You), available from Simon and Schuster. [3:26] On May 6th, Rachel DeAlto will deliver her keynote, “The Power of Relatability,” at RISKWORLD 2025, where she will explore the vital role of genuine human connections in effective leadership. [3:38] She's here to tell us a little bit more about her keynote and she will reveal some of the top interpersonal qualities that inspire trust and motivate teams. These are the sorts of skills that risk management professionals can use at any stage of their career. [3:56] Interview! Rachel DeAlto, welcome to RIMScast! [4:01] Rachel is one of the three keynote speakers on May 6th. She is super excited about it. She has heard amazing things about RISKWORLD from friends who have attended or spoken there. [4:18] Rachel was adjacent to the risk profession as an insurance defense attorney. She was very much aware of the risk management professionals. [4:47] Rachel was constantly having conversations with the risk professionals, keeping them in the loop, determining together where potential pitfalls were, based on the boots on the ground, in front of witnesses or clients. She and the risk management professionals were cooperative. [5:16] Rachel is still friendly with the claims adjusters she worked with and her former office, who are still working in the insurance defense world. [5:33] When Rachel knew she was going to be at RISKWORLD, she took a bigger look at it to see how large it is, how many different risk professionals are out there, and the different roles they play. The risk professionals Rachel had worked with were a fragment of the risk population. [6:07] Rachel saw there was a holistic way that organizations mitigate or prevent risk. [6:26] Rachel tells how she had transitioned from being an attorney. She had always dreamed of being an attorney and maybe a judge. Ten years ago, she came up with an idea for a startup company, intending to continue practicing law while running the company. [6:52] The company led to a significant launch, with about $2 million in private placement. Her responsibility shifted to the company she was running. That led to doing more media and public speaking. She had had no intention of leaving her boss; he still chastises her for it. [7:27] Rachel uses very strategic “yeses.” She notes that there are times when you are shown two paths; one goes this way, and one goes the other. She is grateful her paths led her to where she is. She would have been happy still practicing as an attorney but she enjoys what she does. [8:04] Rachel believes her skills as an attorney transfer to her career as a speaker. She likes being able to help people and make an impact, with some of the elements of her former career integrated into her work. She feels lucky to do what she does. [9:18] Rachel sees a change over the last several years in that we're understanding that we're all on a stage. We all have stories to tell. We all have parts of ourselves to share. The more comfortable we are in that, the more successful we can be. It's how we connect with people. [9:43] Rachel is all about relatability now. We should all be striving for it. It's the ability to connect with people on a multitude of levels. How can risk professionals balance the emotional risks of vulnerability, authenticity, and leadership and be relatable? [10:15] Rachel speaks of the components of relatability. Authenticity and vulnerability are parts of it, but you don't reveal everything. Be genuine while maintaining professional boundaries. It's not about oversharing but having appropriate levels of transparency. [10:46] Cheryl always tries to demonstrate this, whether in conversations or on a keynote stage. It's sharing stories for a purpose; sharing parts of herself, with intention attached to it. That's how we can build trust and credibility without compromising our authority and professionalism. [11:08] Justin asks about resilience. What traits or practices distinguish reliant leaders in periods of uncertainty? [11:31] Because she loves student loans, Rachel went back and got her master's degree in psychology. Resilience stuck with her. It's not a huge part of what she speaks on but it's part of our lives. [11:56] There's a lot of research around the difference between resilient states and traits. Some people naturally have resilient traits. Others can invoke resilient states when needed, focusing on adaptability, emotional intelligence, and maintaining composure. These can be developed. [13:44] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! HUB International continues its Ready for Tomorrow Series with RIMS. On February 20th, they will host “Ready for the Unexpected? Strategies for Property Valuation, Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity in 2025”. [13:04] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [13:15] Nominations are also open for the Donald M. Stuart Award which recognizes excellence in risk management in Canada. Links are in this episode's show notes. [13:27] The First of (hopefully) Many RIMS Texas Regional Conferences will be held in San Antonio from August 4th through 6th, 2025. The Risk Management Roundup in San Antonio is set to unite the Texas RIMS Chapters and welcome risk professionals from around the world. [13:50] You can join as a speaker. The Conference Planning Committee is interested in submissions that explore technology and cyber risk, workforce protection and advancement, energy and sustainability, extreme weather, construction, restaurant, retail, hospitality, and more. [14:08] The deadline to submit your proposal is Monday, February 24th. The link to the event and the submission process is in this episode's show notes. Go check it out! [14:20] Let's Return to My Interview with RISKWORLD Keynote Rachel DeAlto!   [14:28] Justin asks about compassion. What steps can a risk professional take to build compassion? Compassion can be developed through practice. It's easy for risk professionals to look at things as black and white; as numbers, percentages, and data points. [15:30] If you start to feel a little disconnected from what you're talking about it's because you're coming at it from a very educated perspective. Recognize that and then ask yourself where are the parts of it where you can become compassionate. Take a step back and practice empathy. [15:53] Look at things from the other side and put yourself in the other person's shoes. Use active listening without judgment. Be in tune with the other person, trying to understand their objectives. Find common ground and the space to take a step back. Take small steps. [16:22] If someone feels disconnected from their compassion, they can start with the awareness of it and then take small steps in the beginning, to dive back into it. [16:32] On the RISKWORLD keynote stage, on May 6th, Rachel will share a lot of her practical frameworks for building trust and connection. She will also share data from her research on relatable leadership and what teams are looking for from their leaders. [16:57] Rachel will share ways to create stronger working relationships. Regardless of where you work as a risk professional, you work with other people. The stronger connections you have and the better teams you have, the more efficient you can be at what you do. That is her goal. [17:16] Who does Rachel look up to? The first to come to mind is Carey Lohrenz, one of the first female fighter pilots. She's an incredible human who has a phenomenal background. Brené Brown is incredibly relatable. She transmits information in a way that draws you in. [18:19] Rachel's parting words: “I'm excited to connect with everyone! That is where our superpowers lie, in the connections we build. [18:27] “Anyone attending RISKWORLD, setting the intention of creating connections that will make a difference professionally and personally is going to change how you show up and what you walk away with.” [18:39] It has been a delight to meet you, and I look forward to seeing you on May 6th at RISKWORLD. Thank you so much for joining us here on RIMScast! [18:53] Special thanks again to Rachel DeAlto, for joining us here on RIMScast. You can go to her site, RachelDeAlto.com for more information. Rachel will be one of three keynote speakers on the main stage at RISKWORLD 2025 on May 6th. [19:09] In our prior episode, we heard from Ryan Harris, who will also be keynoting there. Shortly, we will hear from the third May 6th keynote speaker, Holly Ransom. So be sure to subscribe to RIMScast and catch all of these episodes. [19:24] We want to see you at RISKWORLD 2025, from May 4th through May 7th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [19:30] More RIMS Plugs! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. [19:58] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [20:17] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [20:35] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [20:51] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [21:05] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [21:12] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7. | Register today! | Super savings rate ends Feb. 28. RIMS Legislative Summit — March 19‒20, 2025 Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Texas Regional Conference 2025 | Submit an Educational Session by Feb. 24. RIMS Risk Management magazine www.racheldealto.com RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “Ready for the Unexpected? Strategies for Property Valuation, Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity in 2025” | Sponsored by Hub International | Feb. 20, 2025   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: “Fundamentals of Insurance” | Feb. 19‒20 | Instructor: Gail Kiyomura “Applying and Integrating ERM” | Feb. 26‒27 | Instructor: Elise Farnham “Managing Data for ERM” | March 12 | Instructor: Pat Saporito See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: “Stay Competitive with the RIMS-CRMP | Presented by the RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter” February 19‒20, 2025 | Instructor: Chris Mandel RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA | March 5‒6 and April 22‒23 | Virtual Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Risk and Leadership Patterns with Super Bowl Champion Ryan Harris” “Kicking off 2025 with RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring RIMS Vice President Manny Padilla!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Rachel DeAlto, Communication and Relatability Expert   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Our guest, Ryan Harris, became a Super Bowl Champion after winning Super Bowl 50 in 2016 with the Denver Broncos and retired later that year. Ryan speaks about winning a game in Chicago, winning the Super Bowl, and becoming a sportscaster. He shares inspiring thoughts about achieving greatness, what it takes to succeed, and the difference between willingness and perfection.   Listen for Ryan's rules for success in this inspiring episode. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:15] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! RIMS wants you to Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow in Chicago from May 4th through May 7th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and the link in this episode's show notes. [:33] About this episode. We will be joined by Super Bowl Champion and award-winning broadcaster, Ryan Harris. He will be a keynote at RISKWORLD 2025. [:59] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! On February 19th and 20th, a two-day virtual workshop for the RIMS-CRMP will be led by former RIMS President Chris Mandel and presented by the RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter, the 2024 RIMS Chapter of the Year. [1:21] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED exam course will be held from February 4th through the 6th, 2025. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:37] Virtual Workshops! Chris Hansen will return on February 11th and 12th to lead the two-day course “Claims Management”. Gail Kiyomura of The Art of Risk Consulting will host the “Fundamentals of Insurance” virtual workshop on February 19th and 20th, 2025. [2:00] On February 26th and 27th, Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting will lead “Applying and Integrating ERM”. “Managing Data for ERM” will be hosted by Pat Saporito. That course starts on March 12th, 2025. [2:23] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:34] The RIMS Legislative Summit 2025 is back! It will be held on March 19th and 20th in Washington, D.C. Join RIMS for two days of Congressional meetings, networking, and advocating on behalf of the risk management community. [2:52] This event is open for RIMS members only so if you're not a member, join now! Visit RIMS.org/advocacy for registration details. [3:00] RISKWORLD 2025 registration is open. Take advantage of our Super Savings Rate by February 28th. Speaking of RISKWORLD, that brings us to our very special guest. [3:12] Ryan Harris became a Super Bowl Champion after winning Super Bowl 50 in 2015 with the Denver Broncos. He retired in 2016. [3:21] Beyond the field, Ryan has continued to work to win. For his contributions to Denver's business community, Ryan was the First African American to be awarded Colorado Sportscaster of the Year in 2020. [3:33] Ryan was also named to Denver Business Journal's 40 under 40 class of 2021. He is an analyst for his alma mater, Notre Dame. [3:42] On May 6th, Ryan Harris will be a mainstage speaker at RISKWORLD in Chicago where he will discuss transformative "5 Components of Championship Leadership," emphasizing how the direction from which leaders operate shapes their effectiveness. [3:58] We're going to have so much fun speaking to Ryan, and we might even get his predictions on Super Bowl LIX. Let's get to it! [4:06] Interview! Super Bowl L Champion, and RISKWORLD 2025 Keynote Speaker, Ryan Harris, welcome to RIMScast! [4:18] Ryan Harris is the first Super Bowl Champion to join us on RIMScast! Justin and Ryan are both big fans of the Buckhorn Exchange in Denver. [5:09] Ryan loves the idea of having people together at RISKWORLD 2025 to find groundbreaking solutions and try new things. That's how you win in football; that's how you win in life! Ryan looks forward to a convention of people looking for what's next with the skills they have now.  [5:32] Ryan says playing NFL football in Chicago was cold. He recalls that playing on Soldier Field feels like you're in a spaceship; the way the stadium bows out and comes right up is unique! [5:49] One of Ryan's favorite memories of playing against the Chicago Bears was when the Broncos beat the Bears in a tight game, the year the Broncos went to win the Super Bowl! It was an important win! [6:02] Ryan credits Head Coach Gary Kubiak for inspiring the team to win that day in Chicago by shortening team meetings from an hour to 15 minutes. So they kept the 15-minute meetings for the rest of the year and won the Super Bowl! Ryan loves going to Chicago. [5:38] Ryan had said that one of the things he was going to do after the Super Bowl was get into broadcasting. He didn't have to go to anybody else to make that happen. [6:55] Ryan says the plan starts with you! You need nothing outside of yourself to be great. You cannot expect other people to work harder for you and your goals. You're working toward them. [7:06] Ryan got his “doctorate” in Applied Football Mechanics and Theory. He went into broadcasting to use all that knowledge. He was selected by the NFL to go to a Broadcast Boot Camp and meet the best of the best in the broadcast industry. [7:20] On the last day, one of the presenters told them to go to their Alma Maters and work their way up. Ryan canceled his flight home, rented a car, and drove from that symposium to Notre Dame, and that's where he got his first broadcasting job. [7:34] Ryan says it started with him listening, taking action, and telling people what he wanted to do and how he wanted to get involved. You sometimes have to work for free to get started, and then you don't. [7:59] Everyone can sit on the couch and say they want to do something. The difference is the people who put their feet where they want to be. [8:04] At the Broadcast Boot Camp, Ryan saw an old college football rival. They hugged it out. The NFL is one big office building and there aren't a lot of chairs. Spend a couple of years there and you'll get to know a lot of people in the NFL and they'll get to know you. [8:31] Ryan is currently in law school. His “doctorate” is from “Peyton Manning University.” He had great “professors” like Ben Roethlisberger, Alex Smith, and Tim Tebow. He went through quite the school of football thought. [8:47] It's fun to have that knowledge, but it's useless as a father or a keynote speaker. He can't go hit people anymore. He had to change, and it's been fun doing that. [9:17] Ryan has a double major in Political Science, and Economics and Policy. From Political Science he learned that there are many ways to solve social problems. In economics, he learned that having two parents in your life puts you in the top 1% of opportunities in America. [9:51] There are key figures in your life or the education you receive that drastically change economic outcomes. What kinds of levers motivate people? There are many ways to do the same thing. It's a matter of degree and what fits the situation. [10:34] Ryan's advice on stories: 1. People remember the first 20 words you say. 2. Storytelling is more valuable than a Master's in Business Administration. [10:55] Start a story with a main theme. “We're going to talk about failure. This is a time I failed. On my sixth day in college football in training camp, I got knocked to the ground.” Our brains love tangible examples. Examples get people into the story. Then Ryan introduces the obstacle.  [11:18] “At one point in Kansas City, I wanted to quit.” He tells what he learned from it. He always brings a big idea that everybody understands and gives a concrete example from his life, what he said to himself, how he went through it, and what he learned from it. [11:45] When we can bring people into our story and talk about our failures and how we worked out of them, we help others and create impact. [12:14] Ryan attests that you don't win by ignoring the struggle. He speaks of factors of success and elements of success. Factors are things like having money and goods. Elements are things that have to happen for you to be successful. [12:30] Failure is an element of success! You have to fail to reach your highest potential. That's the only way it works. Any famous person or industry has had a failure or ten, along the way. We don't talk enough about our failures. Having a process for failure dictates your success. [13:05] Kickers in the NFL focus on process. Golfers focus on process. When you focus on the process, you reduce anxiety by 78%. You have the power to create the process for the failure you need. Then you start to have fun! [13:22] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! Resolver will be joining us on February 6th to discuss “4 Themes Shaping the Future of GRC in 2025”. [13:34] HUB International continues its Ready for Tomorrow Series with RIMS. On February 20th, they will host “Ready for the Unexpected? Strategies for Property Valuation, Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity in 2025”. [13:50] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [14:02] Nominations are also open for the Donald M. Stuart Award which recognizes excellence in risk management in Canada. Links are in this episode's show notes. [14:13] The First of (hopefully) Many RIMS Texas Regional Conferences will be held in San Antonio from August 4th through 6th, 2025. Risk Management Roundup in San Antonio is set to unite the Texas RIMS Chapters and welcome risk professionals from around the world. [14:32] You can be a speaker. The Conference Planning Committee is interested in submissions exploring technology and cyber risk, workforce protection and advancement, energy and sustainability, extreme weather, construction, restaurant, retail, hospitality, and other trends. [14:55] The deadline to submit your proposal is Monday, February 24th. The link to the event and the submission process is in this episode's show notes. Go check it out! [15:07] Let's Return to My Interview with Super Bowl 50 Champion and RISKWORLD 2025 Keynote, Ryan Harris!   [15:20] Ryan Harris had an NFL career of 10 years, about 300% longer than the average NFL career. Justin asks what lessons of his career apply themselves most to risk management. [15:43] Preparation is number one. What are you preparing for? When you're an NFL lineman you get prepared for different blitzes, an extra person who's going to come from a different place. The key to picking up the blitz is knowing it's coming. You anticipate it. [15:58] Anticipation is very big. Then take the space that you need. Ryan tells of introducing himself to Mark Cuban, as a fan, referring to a book about him. Don't hold back. Introduce yourself to people you want to meet. In the NFL, you learn you have to take action. [16:45] Go do it. You don't get to know if it's successful or not until the end. That's what Ryan loves bringing to people about the game of football. [17:22] If you are looking to transition from one career to another, 1. Find out how to listen with curiosity. You add value by being curious. 2. Ask “How” or “What” questions, not “Why” questions. 3. Follow up. Call or email. Do those three things and you are going to be successful. [18:47] Ryan Harris will bring his positivity to RISKWORLD. Positivity is one of the most important elements of success. Some hard experiences are a part of succeeding. Find a way to stay positive. It is so easy to be negative. Be positive and look at the obstacles in front of you. [19:36] Look at the things you can do with the skills you can add to be successful. The positivity keeps you moving faster in that direction. [19:59] What about injuries? Ryan Harris has had nine surgeries; four of them on his back! One time, walking to dinner, his body locked up, being so swollen from the impact in the game. [20:19] The biggest thing people miss about professional athletes is how they take care of their bodies. Ryan has been doing yoga for 17 years. The Kansas City Chiefs are on their way to their third straight Super Bowl. They've had yoga every Tuesday at their facility for the last 10 years. [20:46] If you want to know what the greats are doing, they're doing yoga. They start with yoga, a stretch, hydration, and nutrition to repair. All those things matter, but also the mindset they're in. Tell your body, I don't care how you feel right now, we've got to lift at 11:00. Then do it. [21:13] Find a way. Get the kinks out. It is mind over matter. [21:42] Ryan explains how he, as an offensive tackle, adjusted for a blitz. The key to being great is using all the information that's out there. We fail sometimes to realize the information that's at our fingertips because we're not even looking. [21:55] When Ryan was with the Kansas City Chiefs, his 8th year in the NFL, a coach taught him, “Ryan, that spacing doesn't make sense. What is the field telling you right now?” He had not looked up beyond the line. When he looked, he could see the safety positioned to blitz. [22:36] Ryan took it upon himself to get all the information he could before the snap. That made the play easier. He anticipated this guy going there, and he pushed him hard, helping his teammate. He was ready to attack the guy who was coming. That could apply to a sales call. [22:54] Any situation you face will be easier if you gather all the information that's available about it. Make backup plans. [23:09] Ryan talks about entrepreneur Jesse Itzler. He went to Davos to sell hourly memberships on his airplane. He couldn't get in, but he found out everyone was going to one coffee shop for a muffin and coffee. On the last day, he bought all the muffins and sat in the corner. [23:27] Someone walked in for a muffin. The shopkeeper said he's got them over there. Jesse said, I've got a muffin for you, do you want it? That was his first sale. Do everything you can, take in all the information you can, and apply it strategically. [24:08] Ryan predicts the Kansas City Chiefs are going to win Super Bowl LIX. He believes their willingness is the highest. The number one thing you learn in winning a Super Bowl is you have to be willing, not perfect. Ryan says most people are unwilling to be imperfect to succeed. [24:23] The Kansas City Chiefs don't care what it looks like. They're willing to win the game with 13 seconds left on the clock or with five seconds left on the clock. [24:34] For those who will be watching as a casual spectator, look for somebody to make a mistake and see if they're strong enough to come back and make a play again. If you can find that person, that team is a likely winner. [24:51] Ryan, it's been such a pleasure to meet you today! I look forward to seeing you again in May. I'll be in the front, right there, waving to you! I'll try not to distract you too much, though! [24:58] Ryan says, “Please try, I'm used to it! I love you, Justin. Thanks for having me, my friend!” [25:04] Special thanks again to Super Bowl Champion and award-winning broadcaster,  Ryan Harris, for joining us here on RIMScast. You can go to his site, RyanHarris68.com for more information. [25:17] Be sure to register for RISKWORLD 2025, where Ryan will be on the main stage on May 6th, delivering a Keynote. [25:27] Be sure to tune into next week's RIMScast episode, when another one of those main stage Keynotes, Rachel DeAlto, will join us as we talk about “The Power of Relatability.” Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [25:42] More RIMS Plugs! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. [26:10] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [26:28] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [26:46] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more.  [27:02] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [27:16] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [27:24] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RIMS Risk Management magazine RISKWORLD 2025 — May 4‒7. | Register today! | Super savings rate ends Feb. 28. RIMS Legislative Summit — March 19‒20, 2025 Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award Spencer Educational Foundation — General Grants 2026 — Application Dates RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP)RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Texas Regional Conference 2025 | Submit an Educational Session by Feb. 24. RyanHarris68.com RIMS Webinars: RIMS.org/Webinars “4 Themes Shaping the Future of GRC in 2025” | Sponsored by Resolver | Feb. 6, 2025 “Ready for the Unexpected? Strategies for Property Valuation, Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity in 2025” | Sponsored by Hub International | Feb. 20, 2025   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: “Claims Management” | February 11‒12 | Instructor: Chris Hansen “Fundamentals of Insurance” | Feb. 19‒20 | Instructor: Gail Kiyomura “Applying and Integrating ERM” | Feb. 26‒27 | Instructor: Elise Farnham “Managing Data for ERM” | March 12 | Instructor: Pat Saporito See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Upcoming RIMS-CRMP Prep Virtual Workshops: “Stay Competitive with the RIMS-CRMP | Presented by the RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter” February 19‒20, 2025 | Instructor: Chris Mandel Full RIMS-CRMP Prep Course Schedule   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Kicking off 2025 with RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche” “Stacking Habits with Olympic Gold Medalist Jon Montgomery” “Exploring Risk in Extreme Environments with Kevin Vallely”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Simplifying the Challenges of OSHA Recordkeeping” | Sponsored by Medcor “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring RIMS Vice President Manny Padilla!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model®   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Ryan Harris, Super Bowl Champion, Colorado Sportscaster of the Year   Production and engineering provided by Podfly.  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews CISA Chief Privacy Officer James Burd about data privacy and protection. Topics include how CISA protects agencies and critical infrastructure, how they responded to a recent data attack, and what risk professionals and data privacy professionals can work together to ensure their organization is resistant to data breaches.   Listen for actionable ideas to improve the cyber security at your organization. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:14] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! RIMS wants you to Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow in Chicago from May 4th through May 7th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and the link in this episode's show notes. [:32] About this episode. We will discuss data privacy with James Burd, the Chief Privacy Officer of The Cyber Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) here in the U.S. [:58] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! On February 19th and 20th, a two-day virtual workshop for the RIMS-CRMP will be led by former RIMS President Chris Mandel and presented by the RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter, the 2024 RIMS Chapter of the Year. [1:20] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED exam course will be held from February 4th through the 6th, 2025. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:36] Virtual Workshops! Chris Hansen will return on February 11th and 12th to lead the two-day course “Claims Management”. Gail Kiyomura of The Art of Risk Consulting will host the “Fundamentals of Insurance” virtual workshop on February 19th and 20th, 2025. [1:59] On February 26th and 27th, Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting will lead “Applying and Integrating ERM”. “Managing Data for ERM” will be hosted by Pat Saporito. That course starts on March 12th, 2025. [2:22] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:34] The RIMS Legislative Summit 2025 is back! It will be held on March 19th and 20th in Washington, D.C. Join RIMS for two days of Congressional meetings, networking, and advocating on behalf of the risk management community. [2:51] This event is open for RIMS members only so if you're not a member, join now! Visit RIMS.org/advocacy for registration details. [3:02] Interview! It is Data Privacy Week here in the U.S., through January 31st. This is an annual effort to promote data privacy awareness and education. Its events are sponsored by the National Cybersecurity Alliance. This week's theme is Take Control of Your Data. [3:23] Here to discuss how to take control of your data, and the best practices that risk professionals and business leaders need to know, is Chief Privacy Officer of CISA, James Burd. [3:36] James is the senior agency leader responsible for managing and overseeing CISA's privacy, external civil rights, civil liberties, and transparency programs. [3:46] We're going to talk about some of the big events that made headlines in late December and early January around cybersecurity and data privacy and the frameworks and strategies that risk professionals can implement to take control of their data. [4:02] CISA Chief Privacy Officer James Burd, welcome to RIMScast! [4:18] James has a fantastic team of privacy, transparency, and access professionals who provide transparency to the American public while integrating full privacy rights, liberties, and protections into the management of a safe, secure, and resilient infrastructure. [4:48] As Chief Privacy Officer, James Burd's primary responsibility is to ensure that privacy is at the forefront and integrated into every initiative, program, and policy CISA undertakes, regardless of whether it's by policy, process, or technical solutions. [5:00] This includes ensuring compliance with Federal privacy laws and embedding privacy considerations in the agency's operations and partnerships. [5:08] Protecting critical infrastructure inherently involves safeguarding sensitive and critical information that any organization holds, whether it's CISA or any of the many stakeholders of CISA. Privacy and cybersecurity are inherently interconnected. [5:21] CISA ensures its cybersecurity programs focus on protecting systems, networks, and data from unauthorized access while the privacy portion ensures that personal and sensitive data are handled responsibly, ethically, and securely. [5:39] What are the keys to a strong cybersecurity strategy? [5:52] The work CISA does in the privacy world is to ensure that the information CISA is holding is secure and safeguarded and also to tell the public how exactly they do that. [6:14] In the early days of CISA, it was a Computer Emergency Readiness Team (CERT). CERTs respond to major cybersecurity incidents at a state, local, national, or international level. A cybersecurity incident in the U.S. is similar to a cybersecurity incident in any nation. [6:50] All nations are facing the same cybersecurity issues. CISA's international work is about information sharing and helping each other understand what threats we all face. [7:19] Integrating privacy into risk management frameworks is a core consideration. A lot of the privacy work CISA does with risk managers is for ERM, identifying privacy risks and impacts and ensuring that mitigation strategies align with goals. [7:42] Risk managers are key partners in implementing strong data governance practices. CISA works with them to establish policies for data handling, access, and usage that align with the security needs and privacy protection of an agency or organization. [7:56] Risk managers have the opportunity to help privacy officers identify a privacy problem or privacy risk all across the organization. That's part of the risk manager's job as a point person. [9:13] CISA wants to do this privacy protection work with organizations before a breach. Many privacy professionals have learned the hard way that if you don't collaborate up front, you have to collaborate later, as a result of your emergency. That's not a great day. [9:29] Risk professionals have different viewpoints to consider. They may see that some privacy risks overlap with some financial risks, depending on the risk owner's point of view. It doesn't make sense to solve the same problem in 10 different ways. [10:30] The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) is a valuable partner of CISA's. NIST can see what works or doesn't work as a conceptual or technical framework. NIST studies a problem from several angles and gives CISA an effective solution for the framework. [11:23] Daniel Elliott of NIST has been on RIMScast. James has collaborated with Daniel. [11:49] CISA is a collaborative agency. It does not exist without its partners and stakeholders. When NIST facilitates conversations between CISA and other stakeholders, it helps CISA figure out, of all the problems in the world, which critical problem we need to solve right now. [12:17] CISA has Cyber Performance Goals or CPGs, which are a subset of the NIST Cybersecurity Framework. CISA will tell a small business that they should start with the CPG and get it right, and then expand to everything else. [12:38] CPGs are not a substitute for a risk management framework, but they are a starting point. The CPGs would not exist if not for the work NIST had done in talking to small, medium, and large businesses and figuring out all the different issues they face. [13:08] In December, Chinese cyber attackers infiltrated U.S. agencies. When there is a major incident like that, there is a whole-government response. CISA plays an important role in that response, like a firefighter. Law enforcement plays the role of investigator. [14:16] CISA and its interagency partners are heavily involved in responding to recent Chinese activity associated with both Salt Typhoon and Volt Typhoon. They've been working very closely with the Treasury Department to understand and mitigate the impacts of the recent incident.  [14:35] There's no indication that any other Federal agency has been impacted by the incident but CISA continues to monitor the situation and coordinate with other authorities, like the FBI, to ensure that there's a comprehensive response. [14:50] The security of federal systems and data is of critical importance to national security. CISA is working aggressively to safeguard any further impacts. The People's Republic of China is a persistent threat, specifically, the GRC and related entities, who perform these activities. [15:12] They're one of the most persistent and strategically sophisticated adversaries we face in cyberspace today. The PRC has decades of experience in conducting rampant cyber espionage against U.S. businesses and critical infrastructure. [15:26] CISA has become increasingly concerned over the last year that the PRC is not just doing espionage but is trying to burrow into the critical infrastructure for a rainy day. These state-sponsored activities are coming from campaigns like Volt Typhoon and Salt Typhoon. [15:45] What happened to Treasury provides a stark example of these types of tactics. These tactics target critical infrastructure such as telecommunications, aviation, water, and energy. [15:56] Their goal, as far as we can tell, is not to cause immediate damage but to gain persistent access to those systems and remain undetected until they want to do something. [16:08] CISA has been very involved, not just responding to these incidents, but deeply studying these incidents to understand what is happening and what we need to do as a government and nation to protect ourselves from these burrowing activities. [16:27] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! Resolver will be joining us on February 6th to discuss “4 Themes Shaping the Future of GRC in 2025”. [16:39] HUB International continues its Ready for Tomorrow Series with RIMS. On February 20th, they will host “Ready for the Unexpected? Strategies for Property Valuation, Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity in 2025”. [16:55] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [17:07] Nominations are also open for the Donald M. Stuart Award which recognizes excellence in risk management in Canada. Links are in this episode's show notes. [17:20] Let's Return to My Interview with James Burd of the Cyber Infrastructure Security Agency!   [17:42] Whether talking about AI, IoT, or 5G, the issues are hardware problems and software problems. [18:02] The issues of the 1970s are similar to the issues of the 2020s, regarding vulnerabilities, exposure, and unsafe practices when developing software and hardware. [18:20] What we're seeing in the emerging technology space with AI, IoT, and 5G is an increase in the volume and velocity of data. The improvement of technology in this space is based on power and efficiency. Software improvement is based on the reach of interconnectivity. [18:34] Privacy and cybersecurity risks do not just appear. We're seeing existing risks and issues increasing in size and complexity. What we previously thought of as a perceived risk is now a real risk, thanks to advances in computational power and the amount of data available. [18:54] It's always been a risk but it was less likely to occur until this point where there's more data, more volume, and more complexity. AI systems rely on a vast amount of personal data, raising concerns about data security, algorithmic bias, and a lack of transparency. [19:11] We've heard about these risks with machine learning and big data databases. They require governance frameworks that address how data is collected, stored, and used in systems, or, in this case, AI models. [19:28] Those frameworks should be familiar to anyone working in the data protection space or the risk management space for the last three decades. Insurers getting into the cybersecurity space have been paying stark attention to this. [19:58] We've found out that IoT devices are probably the easiest and most risky entrance points within networks into homes and critical infrastructure devices. The biggest risks they create are unauthorized access, data breaches, and potential surveillance. [20:19] These are not new risks. They're existing risks that are promulgated because of the new avenue to get in. It used to be that the worst thing that could happen to an IoT device like a router is that it gets compromised and becomes part of a botnet to take down websites. [20:38] Today, that still happens, but that IoT device is looked at as the back door for entering someone's network if it's not properly secured. [20:49] In itself, 5G is awesome. There are fantastic things to do with increased data flow. With increased speed and connectivity come the ability to move more data at a time and we're facing data being transferred in an insecure manner. People don't know what data they're sharing. [21:15] We're running into the same classic issues but they're exacerbated by something we view as a major success, access. Access should be celebrated but we shouldn't open doors because we can open them. We need to be able to make sure those doors are secured. [21:48] James paraphrases Mark Groman, a privacy expert formerly with the FTC. “Privacy and cybersecurity are sometimes viewed as competing priorities. They are two sides of the same coin. I refuse to live in a world where you compromise security for privacy or vice versa.” [22:11] We live in a world where you can have both. The great thing about advancing technologies is that we can do both. Both cybersecurity and privacy aim to protect sensitive data and systems, just from slightly different angles and for different reasons. [22:31] There has to be a collaborative approach between cybersecurity and privacy. An intermediary like a risk professional can help cybersecurity and privacy teams work together. [22:41] By leveraging things privacy-preserving technologies and designing privacy into cybersecurity measures, organizations can bridge the gap and achieve harmony between the two essential functions. This strengthens the organization and its overall risk management. [22:58] When a risk is realized in one area, it's common for it to be a harmonious risk with another risk in a different area. In the privacy and cybersecurity space, risks overlap often. Conflicts between cybersecurity and privacy are easily bridged. [23:24] Cybersecurity professionals want to collect more data; privacy professionals want you to minimize the amount of data you collect. [23:34] Cybersecurity relies on extensive data collection to detect, monitor, and respond to threats. Privacy wants to collect only what's necessary and maintain it for a minimum time. [23:46] Security monitoring tools like intrusion detection systems may gather logs or metadata that could include personal data, creating potential privacy risks, especially for an insider threat. [24:00] Organizations can implement privacy-aware cybersecurity solutions that anonymize or pseudo-anonymize data where possible, allowing cybersecurity professionals to get to the root of the problem they're trying to solve while masking sensitive data. [24:13] If you're investigating an insider threat, you can unmask the data. Do you need that data to do the job that you're tasked to do? If not, why run the risk of inappropriately accessing it? [24:53] Privacy frameworks will always encourage transparency about data usage and sharing, especially by private entities doing consumer business and handling personal information. [25:07] The public needs to know what you are collecting from them, how you are using it, and whether are you sharing it. They need to know if you are handling their data securely. [25:38] James would tell cybersecurity professionals that if they think obscurity is security, they should find another job. Obscurity is typically the worst way to secure things. [25:51] There are ways to describe how data is being held or secured by an organization without compromising the cybersecurity tools or techniques used to monitor or look for vulnerabilities. [26:03] Transparency can be maintained without compromising security and can be used in a way to assure the public that an organization is keeping serious security techniques in mind when handling the public's data. James tells how to share that message with the public. [27:08] When James opens software, he reads the Third Party Agreements. He knows most people don't. Government agencies include a plain language version of the agreement. Some private companies are doing the same to help people understand how their data is being used. [28:40] Quick Break for RIMS Plugs! The first of hopefully many RIMS Texas Regional Conferences will be held in San Antonio from August 4th through August 6th, 2025. [28:58] This groundbreaking event is set to unite the Texas RIMS Chapters and welcome risk management professionals from around the world! Also known as the Risk Management Roundup in San Antonio, you can join as a speaker!  [29:11] The Conference planning committee is interested in submissions that explore technology and cyber risk, workforce protection and advancement, energy and sustainability, extreme weather, construction, restaurant, retail, hospitality, and other trending now sessions. [29:28] The deadline to submit your proposal is Monday, February 24th. The link to the event and the submission process is in this episode's show notes. Go check it out! [29:39] The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved in part by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [29:58] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in general grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. Spencer's 2026 application process will open on May 1st, 2025, and close on July 30th, 2025. [30:20] General grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's general grants through the Programs tab at SpencerEd.org. [30:30] Let's Return to the Conclusion of My Interview with the Chief Privacy Officer of CISA, James Burd! [31:00] A lot of ERM frameworks exist because they were required by regulation or law. [31:10] Privacy professionals are starting to see the same risks that risk management and compliance professionals have been dealing with for decades. The big tools that privacy professionals use are called Data Privacy Impact Assessments (DPIA). [31:29] DPIAs vary, depending on the regulatory framework or law. DPIAs do two things: they identify what data assets you have and they examine the risks that are associated with the handling of those data assets and what mitigations must be in place to buy down those risks. [31:48] That assessment can populate half of an ERM framework's register. Getting involved with your privacy program manager as they do these DPIAs may first cause the privacy program manager to resist your risk assessment, but a risk in one space is a risk in another space. [32:21] The DPIA is a valuable source of information for a risk manager. You can see the risks earlier. You can identify with the privacy program manager what some of the major risks might become. That means both realized and unrealized risks, which are equally important. [33:06] A privacy program manager will be preoccupied with a lot of the perceived risks. A risk manager wants to know which risks are more likely and identify them early. [33:40] A likelihood assessment will help the privacy officer identify how many “calories” to spend on this risk. The risk manager and privacy manager have a mutually beneficial relationship. They help each other. [34:17] CISA provides cybersecurity education, news on vulnerabilities and cyber threats, threat intelligence, and service to critical infrastructure providers once there is an incident of some sort. The CISA website shows cyber threat indicators of what a compromise might look like. [35:40] CISA has found novel patterns on networks that make it hard to tell that your network has been compromised. CISA calls those things “Left of Doom.” On the “RIght of Doom,” CISA prioritizes the incidents that it responds to. [36:02] CISA focuses primarily on critical infrastructure. If you have a situation CISA cannot respond to, they will assist you by a local field office to find the people to help you, whether it's law enforcement, local cyber security service providers, or a local Emergency Response Team. [37:03] Companies are involved in the California wildfires. Could an incident like that distract them that they might become susceptible to data breaches? James notes that you can't address every problem at the same time. Prioritize, rack, and stack. [37:17] Incidents are going to happen. CISA asks agencies and companies to take the time and spend the resources to knock out all the low-hanging fruit. The great majority of incidents CISA sees are bad actors exploiting very simple, easy-to-fix vulnerabilities. [37:55] It might be companies not using encrypted traffic, or only using a password to secure access to a server. The fix is relatively low cost or low impact. It takes time to figure out how to do the fix, but you'll be grateful that you took the time and spent the money to implement it. [38:24] The cost of a greater fix from the breach of a simple vulnerability will be far greater than the resources you'd spend to address it in the first place. Establishing that floor will help you focus on other “fires” that pop up while assuring you won't get “popped” for a silly reason. [38:49] If somebody's going to get you, make sure they've tried their hardest to get you. [38:58] It's Data Privacy Day today, as this episode is released! It's the start of Data Privacy Week! The theme is Take Control of Your Data!  [39:22] Robust privacy governance tips: Figure out where your data asset inventory is for your organization. Keep track of it and keep track of the risk associated with each data asset, Each data asset may have a different set of risks. [39:47] Every organization should maintain a comprehensive inventory of data assets, detailing what data is collected, where it is stored, who has access to it, and how it's used. [39:56] The risk professional probably isn't the one who takes the inventory, but they should have access to it and they should be evaluating that inventory.  [40:06] The risk professional can help the privacy manager by helping them establish clear policies and procedures for handling data, access control, and breach response, based on real risk. A privacy officer sometimes has difficulty identifying a real risk over a perceived risk. [40:23] By focusing on real risks, you avoid the problem where privacy officers spend too much energy coming up with solutions for the most unlikely scenarios, leaving organizations unprepared for what's likely to happen. [40:42] Special thanks again to James Burd of CISA for joining us here on RIMScast! 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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Shadowserver Foundation Alliance Director Tod Eberle about cybersecurity. Tod tells how his background as a prosecutor led to his interest in cybersecurity, how he encountered the non-profit Shadowserver Foundation, and how he left the public sector to work with them. He explains how Shadowserver provides actionable data to alert network owners and law enforcement of network vulnerabilities that need to be mitigated. He discusses trends in malware attacks, especially in ransomware. He shares his thoughts on ransomware threats of 2025 and the years to come. He provides tips on preparing your network against ransomware.   Listen to how you can harden your organization's network against malware attacks. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:14] Public registration is open for RISKWORLD 2025! RIMS wants you to Engage Today and Embrace Tomorrow in Chicago from May 4th through May 7th. Register at RIMS.org/RISKWORLD and the link in this episode's show notes. [:33] About this episode. We will discuss cybersecurity with Tod Eberle, the Alliance Director of the Shadowserver Foundation. [:55] RIMS-CRMP Workshops! On February 19th and 20th, there will be a two-day virtual workshop for the RIMS-CRMP led by former RIMS President Chris Mandel and presented by the RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter, the 2024 RIMS Chapter of the Year. [1:18] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED exam course will be held from February 4th through the 6th, 2025. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and this episode's show notes. [1:34] Virtual Workshops! Chris Hansen will return on February 11th and 12th to lead the two-day course “Claims Management”. Gail Kiyomura of The Art of Risk Consulting will host the “Fundamentals of Insurance” virtual workshop on February 19th and 20th, 2025. [1:58] On February 26th and 27th, Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting will lead “Applying and Integrating ERM”. “Managing Data for ERM” will be hosted by Pat Saporito. That course starts on March 12th, 2025. [2:20] A link to the full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:31] The RIMS Legislative Summit 2025 is back! It will be held on March 19th and 20th in Washington, D.C. Join RIMS for two days of Congressional meetings, networking, and advocating on behalf of the risk management community. [2:49] This event is open for RIMS members only so if you're not a member, join now! Visit RIMS.org/advocacy for registration details. [3:02] Interview! Our guest Tod Eberle is the Alliance Director of the Shadowserver Foundation, a non-profit security organization working altruistically behind the scenes to make the internet more secure for everyone. [3:15] Tod Eberle is with us to discuss the cybersecurity trends on his risk radar and the threats he wants risk professionals to be aware of as 2025 kicks into high gear. Shadowserver Alliance Director, Tod Eberle, welcome to RIMScast! [3:41] Justin saw that Shadowserver Foundation was promoted by the National Cybersecurity Alliance and he thought it would be great to have a follow-up on his appearance there. [3:54] Tod says the National Cybersecurity Alliance is a great organization. After working together with them for a year, they invited Tod to do a webinar. It was a great experience. [4:28] Tod's background is as a career prosecutor, starting as a county prosecutor in Western Pennsylvania in 1997. In 2004, Tod became a Federal Prosecutor in Pittsburgh for the U.S. Department of Justice. [5:00] In 2014, He transitioned over to the National Security and Cybercrime section in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was at the forefront of cyber investigations by both the U.S. Attorney's Office and the FBI. Tod wanted to be a part of that. [5:34] The Pittsburgh office has run investigations and issued indictments against Chinese Military Intelligence officers and Russian GRU officers for hacking. In 2014, Pittsburgh had the first criminal indictment of nation-state threat actors. [6:00] In that case, Chinese Military Intelligence PLA officers hacked into Pittsburgh companies Westinghouse, ALCOA, U.S. Steel, and United Steel Workers. Some forward-thinking folks at the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's Office, particularly U.S. Attorney David Hickton, focused on cyber. [6:29] That continued over the years until the present. [6:46] To begin an investigation, the FBI and U.S. Attorney's Office in Pittsburgh, need to have some aspect of an organization's criminal activity touch that district, the Western District of Pennsylvania. A national ransomware case with one victim in Pittsburgh can be investigated. [7:16] In the investigation of Russian GRU actors responsible for the destructive NotPetya malware attack, a district hospital's network was attacked and destroyed. They expanded the investigation and charging documents to include other attacks around the country. [7:58] In 2015 Tod was a prosecutor working with the FBI on an investigation. He was at Europol at the Hague in the Netherlands, a center that brings together investigators and prosecutors from different countries who investigate the same threat group through Europol and Eurojust. [8:33] Tod met the Shadowserver Foundation non-profit group at the Hague in 2015. They were helping, through free technical support to the takedown operation, to dismantle the infrastructure of a crime group, using sinkholing and other security measures. [9:08] Tod Joined the Shadowserver Foundation in January of 2023. He is the Shadowserver Alliance Director. As a small non-profit, everyone wears many hats. The Shadowserver Foundation is a 501(c)(3) in the U.S. and a separate non-profit legal entity in the Netherlands. [9:47] The Shadowserver Foundation started about 2004. It celebrated its 20th anniversary in 2024. It began as a loose group of volunteers made up of cybersecurity researchers and technical experts who came together to help network owners and law enforcement. [10:15] Over the years they became more structured and became a non-profit organization. It's an unusual non-profit organization working 100% in operations. It works in three core areas. First, it's the world's largest provider of free, actionable cyber threat intelligence. [10:45] Second, the Shadowserver Foundation does cybersecurity capacity-building around the world. Third, it also provides free support to law enforcement investigations and disruption operations with technical support and expertise. Those three things are its core mission. [11:07] Justin notes commonalities between RIMS cyber risk reporting and the Shadowserver Foundation's work. Shadowserver collects a vast amount of threat data daily. What are the patterns it sees for 2025? [11:29] Shadowserver Foundation can help organizations mitigate risks. It collects cyber threat data at its data center in California through internet-wide scanning, honeypot sensors, sinkholing operations, and collecting and analyzing malware samples. [11:57] Every day for free the Shadowserver Foundation takes that data and provides it to over 9,000 organizations around the world and to 201 National C-CERTs that cover about 176 countries. [12:13] These reports identify exposed, misconfigured, vulnerable, compromised instances or devices on networks that need patching. [12:25] The organizations that get Shadowserver's data can be anything from banks to hospitals, universities, K-12 school districts, ISPs, local, state, and federal governments, small, medium, and large businesses, Fortune 500s, and NGOs; just about anyone can sign up. [12:46] The idea behind this is that cyber security should be available to everyone, regardless of the ability to pay. Organizations can sign up at the Shadowserver Foundation website, and provide their contact information and network information with IP ranges and ASNs. [13:12] The Shadowserver Foundation does its due diligence and if everything checks out, it automates those reports to go out to the organization daily. About 9,000 organizations sign up directly to receive daily reports. [13:22] The Shadowserver Foundation also sends out data for entire countries to the national C-CERT designated to handle that in those countries. In the U.S., CISA gets hundreds of millions of events from them every day for all the U.S. It is the same around the world. [13:52] Tod says that some things never change. Networks are breached primarily through phishing attacks, malicious links or attachments, and social engineering. [14:09] One trend is a focus on vulnerabilities. Criminals exploit vulnerabilities in the network that aren't timely patched and before they are patched. Shadowserver gives organizations an external snapshot view of their networks just as criminals are scanning for themselves. [14:52] Cybercriminal groups increasingly leverage zero-day vulnerabilities to breach a network. A zero-day vulnerability is a flaw in software or hardware that's unknown to the vendor and has no patch. The vendor has had zero days to fix the vulnerability after it has been discovered. [15:16] That was the case with the Clop ransomware gang. In 2024, they started exploiting zero-day vulnerabilities in Fortra's GoAnywhere software. That continued in May, with them exploiting Progress Software's MOVEit file transfer application. [15:38] Very recently, in December, the Clop Ransomware group claimed responsibility for using a zero-day vulnerability in Clio's file transfer platform that breached victims' networks. [15:49] Cyber criminals extort victims and steal data with ransomware attacks. Risk managers in cybersecurity need to stay on top of critical vulnerabilities that often go unpatched. Those are often the easiest gateway into a network. [16:26] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! Resolver will be joining us on February 6th to discuss “4 Themes Shaping the Future of GRC in 2025”. [16:38] HUB International continues its Ready for Tomorrow Series with RIMS. On February 20th, they will host “Ready for the Unexpected? Strategies for Property Valuation, Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity in 2025”. [16:54] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [17:06] Nominations are also open for the Donald M. Stuart Award which recognizes excellence in risk management in Canada. Links are in this episode's show notes. [17:17] The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved in part by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [17:35] Since 2010, Spencer has awarded over $3.3 million in general grants to support over 130 student-centered experiential learning initiatives at universities and RMI non-profits. Spencer's 2026 application process will open on May 1st, 2025, and close on July 30th, 2025. [17:58] General grant awardees are typically notified at the end of October. Learn more about Spencer's general grants through the Programs tab at SpencerEd.org. [18:08] Let's Return to the Conclusion of My Interview with Tod Eberle of Shadowserver! [18:49] Justin notes that In December of 2024, China attackers breached the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. That is the government office that assesses foreign investments for national security risks. [18:58] China also targeted the Treasury's Sanctions Office after it sanctioned a Chinese company for its alleged role in cyberattacks. [19:14] Tod thinks we should acknowledge that this is nothing new and nothing we should be surprised about. It's been going on for many years and it's going to continue. Justin was in the Federal government in 2013 and 2014. [19:32] In 2015, it was announced that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management had been breached. Personal sensitive data for 42 million people were stolen. [19:44] In May 2014, five Chinese military officers were indicted for computer hacking and economic espionage against companies based in Pittsburgh. This is nothing out of the ordinary. Unfortunately, indictments don't seem to have a deterrent effect. [20:21] Countries can deny the charges of hacking even with strong evidence of their involvement. [20:37] There are different types of hacking, with different types of motivation. There is traditional espionage against U.S. government agencies. There is theft of intellectual property with nation-states trying to gain a commercial advantage in business. [21:23] There are destructive hacks by nation-state actors, like the NotPetya attack, or attacks on the Ukrainian power grid and banking systems in 2015 and 2016. [21:36] The Volt Typhoon threat actor group and its access to the U.S. critical infrastructure is one of the greatest national security concerns because of its potential to disrupt everything from water to power, to food, to transportation. [22:10] The ripple effect that can come from those disruptions would be enormous. The Colonial Pipeline ransomware attack of a few years ago affected fuel supplies, commerce, and the prices of goods. [22:31] Nation-state hacking is no longer just a concern for government agencies and companies that do business internationally, but it's now a concern for all of society. There's the potential to affect the daily lives of innocent civilians through attacks on critical infrastructure. [23:16] Tod mentions another 2014 indictment out of Pittsburgh, on the GameOver Zeus Botnet takedown. Part of that was a crypto locker ransomware disruption. This was in the infancy of ransomware, for $300 ransoms. Now ransom demands are in the tens of millions of dollars. [23:53] We have seen a huge evolution in ransomware. It's not going away. One thing we're seeing is bypassing data encryption and focusing on data theft. It's easier and less time-consuming for the threat actors because they don't have to map out the network. [24:41] If a victim company had good backups and easy restoration, that was an issue ransomware actors had to deal with, so why would the threat actors bother with that? They just focus on easy data theft and extortion of ransom for the data. [25:04] Tod thinks we will continue to see extortion. Ransomware continues to be the greatest concern for companies. The use of AI has been increasing both for defenders and attackers.  [25:14] A new ransomware group, FunkSec, is claiming large numbers of victims of extortion, encryption, and data theft. They seem to have ransom demands of less than $10,000. They have sold stolen data. Researchers think this is a less experienced group using AI to write code. [27:22] Shadowserver's very talented team collects the data. It's free. They want to get it into the hands of those who can use it. The reports identify things that are seen to be misconfigured or unnecessarily exposed to the internet. Sometimes they can show if something is compromised. [28:12] Shadowserver designates the events by severity level so the end user can prioritize their patching and address first the ones that are most critical and severe. The reports act both as an early warning system and a victim notification system if a device is seen to be compromised. [28:59] The network owner needs to remediate that and patch it before further exploitation like a ransomware attack can occur. [29:07] Shadowserver has two ways to detect that a device is compromised. The first is if they have indicators that tell them a device on the network is compromised. The second is with their support for law enforcement, law enforcement may share sensitive data with Shadowserve. [29:32] When law enforcement does a takedown and they get victim identification data like IP addresses, they must do victim notification. Law enforcement isn't scaled to do victim notification for hundreds of thousands of users. Shadowserver helps them with notifications. [30:48] Shadowserver is very careful to share data responsibly. Company A will get the data they have for Company A and it won't be shared with Company B and vice versa. Shadowserver views the data as belonging to that network owner. [31:08] If a company authorizes Shadowserver and wants them to share their data with a third party, Shadowserver will happily do it. There are several companies with MSSPs to manage their security. If the company asks, Shadowserver will send the data to their MSSP. [31:43] As a small, non-profit organization, not everyone has heard of the Shadowserver Foundation. They want people to know they have this data and they want to share it. It could be relevant for cyber insurance companies' due diligence, with the insurance applicant's consent. [32:20] It's important because those reports can show whether a network has remained healthy and secure over time. Tod would love to see Shadowserver be able to help more in the risk mitigation areas. [32:56] Special thanks again to Shadowserver Foundation's Tod Eberle for joining us here on RIMScast! Check out this episode's show notes for links to the Shadowserver reports we mentioned. [33:07] Be sure to tune in next week for Data Privacy Day! We've got a special episode with James Burd, Chief Privacy Officer of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). That's going to be a good one! [33:22] More RIMS Plugs! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. [33:50] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [34:07] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [34:25] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more.  [34:41] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [34:55] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. 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Virtual events are a great way to promote your business. And your podcast is a great way to promote your virtual events. You just need the right strategy. CREATING POWERFUL VIRTUAL EVENTS Free Gift: Simple, Profitable Virtual Events Checklist www.PodcastTalentCoach.com/eventschecklist Virtual Events Bootcamp www.PodcastTalentCoach.com/virtualevents   When I first started with virtual events, I went the webinar route. I tried it over and over again. In October of 2021, my strategy changed. I had launched a webinar that month to promote my Podcast Launch Accelerator program where I help people launch their podcast in 30 days. I was promoting the webinar myself with no JV partners. The registration page had 72 visits. Of the 72, 41 registered. That was a conversion rate of 57%. It should have been much higher than that. Of the 41 that registered, 10 people attended live. That was a 25% conversion. For a new webinar, that was decent. It should be closer to 50%. Unfortunately, of the 10 that attended, nobody purchased. This is when I started second guessing my strategy. Webinars just weren't working for me. Then one day I discovered workshops. Instead of doing 90-minute webinars, I pivoted to 3-hour workshops. I was helping people implement what I was teaching. On my first workshop, I had nine people attend live. Of the nine people in the workshop, four purchased my program. I was going deeper and delivering more value. That was converting into sales. Creating virtual events is all about developing the right strategy. MARKETING VEHICLE My goal is to help you use your podcast as a marketing vehicle for your business. And in order for it to be an effective marketing vehicle for the business, we need to understand what our year looks like in the business. To begin, define what you're trying to accomplish, and how you're trying to accomplish it. We talk so much about our podcast being a powerful marketing tool, because it can create those powerful relationships with your listeners. Your content can bring listeners into the top of your funnel. As you tell stories on your podcast, you walk listeners through the process of getting to know, like, and trust you. You get them started with your content through your lead magnet, and then get them to a sales call with you. So, how do we create content with a purpose that leads toward landing more clients? When people begin to create their podcasts, they just say, "Oh, I need record an episode this week... What am I gonna talk about?? They create the episode. Then at the end, they're say, "Hey, if you wanna have a call with me, sign up. Here's where you can find my calendar link." The content and the call to action really don't connect well together. Let me show you how to create a plan that will help you build a cohesive marketing plan using your podcast. VIRTUAL EVENTS TO ENROLL With your cohesive marketing plan, the first thing we need to understand is what we're trying to market. If we are creating content that helps us market what we sell, when do we sell it? When are your enrollment events and sales conversations? Now a lot of times when you're selling your coaching program, you will do it through one-on-one calls. If you're just randomly bringing those calls in, you can't plan. This week, you might have 3 calls. Next week, you might not have any. And the next week, you might have 4, and then you might have 1. What I'd like to see you do is figure out how we can create more of those sales conversations at one time. So as you look at the year, plan out where your sales and enrollment events happen. That could be maybe through a webinar. You might create a workshop. Your enrollment event might be a variety of other virtual events. So you're inviting everybody to an event. And at the event, you invite attendees to book a call with you so you can help them explore what it is that you help them do. When you're booking calls with prospective clients every day throughout the year, it's tough to get in a rhythm. But if you batch those calls through virtual events, you can do your sales calls in a week and begin to get a rhythm going. MORE EFFECTIVE Rather than trying to get a call here and a call there, let's see if we can get a batch of calls in at one time so that we're creating a master plan for your content throughout the entire year doing a few virtual events. So maybe you're doing a few big, virtual events once a quarter or 3 times a year, where you're inviting an entire group to come and have a conversation with you. You don't necessarily need to do webinars. I found it difficult in the 10 years that I was doing a lot of one-on-one strategy calls with podcasters. They would trickle in here and there because I would create the content on the podcast, and then I would invite people to a call. When I pivoted and I started to do virtual events, I would create a workshop or a a training that would happen maybe once a quarter. I would get a lot of people to that, and invite those people to have calls with me. Now they've kind of experienced what coaching with me is like, and they're more apt to sign up for a call to have that conversation with me and have that strategy call with me. VIRTUAL EVENTS GIVE A SAMPLE I found it much more effective to get people on the phone that way, because they've already experienced what I have to offer. When you take people straight from your podcast to a strategy call, it gets a little scary because they're going into the deep end one-on-one with you. In their gut, they feel like it's gonna be a big hard sales pitch, and they're not gonna be able to figure out how to get out of it. And they're gonna get roped into a $1,000 program that they didn't really want. And so they just don't sign up for the call. When you offer them to come to virtual events, they come to the events with other people. there's safety in numbers. So they don't feel as apprehensive to come to virtual events as they would straight to a one-on-one call. When they get to the event and they see how you operate and they see how you flow and what you're all about, then they're more likely to sign up for that one-on-one call with you so you can see how you can help them. You both can see how the two of you get along in your coaching. ENROLLMENT VIRTUAL EVENTS So first, determine where your sales and enrollments events are going to happen. It doesn't matter to me how many you do. But what I'd like you to do is be intentional about when you're doing them and what you're trying to accomplish. So if we remember that most podcast episodes get the bulk of their downloads and listens in the first 30 days after they're released, we can now start to work backwards as we're creating your content calendar and marketing plan. Once we set the event date, and we know that the podcast gets most of its downloads in the first 30 days, we can start to figure out when to promote the event using our podcast. This will help us use our podcast in the most effective way. Work backward from your event date to figure out when to promote it on the podcast. You want to start teasing the event roughly eight weeks in advance. If my event is happening on April 1, I want to start teasing it on February 1st. Create some anticipation. And then about six weeks in advance, announce the event with full details. Have the registration page up and running. Begin enrolling people in the event. Six weeks gives people enough notice that the event is coming and let's them get registered for it. YOUR REGISTRATION PAGE One thing that I do is always use the same URL for my event. So if you want to register for any of my events, I always put the event at the same URL. So if you go to podcasttalentcoach.com/workshop, you'll find my Audience Explosion Blueprint workshop. I will update that page with the new dates and details for each new workshop. I always do is use that same URL. If I'm promoting it on February 15th for my April 1st workshop, somebody listening to the podcast on May 1st can visit that URL with the new dates on it. So even if they're listening past the date of the event, it will have the current event up there. Then four weeks out from the event, set the deadline and create some urgency to get people registered. Create that deadline and start creating some urgency four weeks out. During these last four weeks, focus on the outcome of your virtual events and create urgency. Get people registering to be part of the event. And then at the event, you can invite people to have call with you. So over these 8 weeks, we're teasing, we're announcing, and we're creating that urgency. Then, repurpose your your podcast content and be visible. YOUR VIRTUAL EVENTS So, how do you create your virtual events? That's what our guest is helping us with today. Janelle Anderson is known as the Virtual Events Visionary helping coaches and experts create and host simple, profitable virtual events to massively scale their business. She is a Certified Professional Coach, 7-time bestselling author, and renowned speaker who is on a mission to empower her clients to thrive and prosper so they can transform the lives of their clients. Janelle has had the honor of helping hundreds of clients transform their lives and now is on a mission to help hundreds of coaches prosper in their businesses so they can transform thousands of lives. Today, she is going to help us use the virtual events strategy grow our businesses.   Free Gift: Simple, Profitable Virtual Events Checklist www.PodcastTalentCoach.com/eventschecklist Virtual Events Bootcamp www.PodcastTalentCoach.com/virtualevents   If you don't have a mentor who can take your hand and walk you every step of the way, go to www.PodcastTalentCoach.com/apply, click the button and apply to have a chat with me. We will develop your plan and see how I can help and support you to achieve your podcast goals.

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In this conversation, Tricia and Joel Birch explore the transformative power of Lego Serious Play as a facilitation method. Joel shares his background in music and comedy, discussing how these experiences inform his approach to facilitating workshops. They get into the importance of play in communication, the dynamics of team interactions, and the unique benefits of virtual facilitation. The discussion highlights the role of a facilitator in creating a safe space for expression and the similarities and differences between K-12 education and corporate environments. Joel emphasizes the need for skilled facilitators to guide participants through the process, ensuring that everyone has a voice and can contribute meaningfully to the conversation. In this conversation, Joel Birch discusses his journey into facilitation, emphasizing the importance of inquiry learning and collaboration in education. He shares insights on engaging parents and caregivers, the role of play in building relationships, and innovative techniques for strategic planning and interviews in schools. The discussion highlights the need for creativity in educational practices and the value of creating low-stakes environments for meaningful conversations. ➡️ Ready to connect with Joel?  https://joelbir.ch/  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   The RIMS ERM Conference 2024 in Boston featured a stellar lineup of risk thought leaders who shared their experiences applying ERM practices to align risk management with strategy and showcase the value of more risk-aware corporate cultures. At the Conference, Justin spoke with two leading ERM practitioners in different primary areas to provide a range of perspectives. In this episode of RIMScast, Justin interviews Christopher Stitt about his session, which he based on the RIMS ERM Framework and the RIMS Risk Maturity Model. Justin interviews Catrina Gilbert about her position at the DFW Airport and her career in risk management and ERM, as well as current airport initiatives. Listen in for a sample of the offerings of the RIMS ERM Conference 2024 with its record-breaking full-capacity attendance.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:14] Member registration for RISKWORLD 2025 is now open! General registration opens on December 4th. Visit RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:25] About this episode. Recorded live in Boston at the RIMS ERM Conference 2024, we have interviews with two fantastic guests! [:49] The next RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Virtual Workshop will be held on December 17th and 18th. The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. [1:07] Links to these courses can be found on the Certification page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:15] RIMS Virtual Workshops! Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. On December 4th and 5th, she will host “Applying and Integrating ERM”. On December 17th and 18th, she will host “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique”. [1:35] Those are just two of the workshops RIMS offers; we have lots more! Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar, RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [1:51] First Interview! Our first guest was a featured speaker on Day 2 of the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. His name is Christopher Stitt and he is the Founder and CEO of CrisisLead, LLC. [2:01] Chris's session was titled “The Art and Science of High-performing Enterprise Risk Management: Bridging Silos for Sustainable Success.” We'll speak about that session and give a high-level overview for those who could not attend. [2:18] Chris has a fascinating background that led him to risk management and ERM. His career journey is an inspiration. We recorded live on-site at the Boston Hilton Plaza. Christopher Stitt, welcome to RIMScast! [2:51] This is Chris's first ERM Conference. He's enjoying it and likes getting a broader perspective of how the overall ERM community operates. It's been a fantastic opportunity to network with some amazing professionals and learn from them! [3:20] Chris talks about the session he is giving, “The Art and Science of High-performing Enterprise Risk Management: Bridging Silos for Sustainable Success.” It comes down to people. What sometimes gets missed in the ERM process is the human factor. [3:51] It's about getting the buy-in necessary and the understanding of what risk is, not just from the senior level but across the board. A new concept, the Risk Intelligence Quotient, can help your organization understand how to look at, feel about, and interact with risk. [4:26] The Risk Intelligence Quotient, along with the human-centric aspects of the risk program, can help you build a good risk culture and ultimately, a high-performing organization that can thrive during both business-as-usual and disruption. [5:03] Chris used the RIMS ERM Framework and the RIMS Risk Maturity Model as the foundation of his session. As he studied the RIMS Risk Maturity Model, he saw it was about the journey, from starting a risk program in a new business to developing a mature program. [5:37] As a business grows and a company matures, you need to be able to go through the process and say, “We need to start documenting how this works. We need to start ingraining this into our business process.” [6:01] The RIMS Risk Maturity Model gives a great overview of how to ingrain risk management into your business process, especially in a business developing as a hierarchical organization. [6:41] Chris was a U.S. Department of State Diplomatic Security Service Special Agent for over 25 years managing integrated security risks in embassies around the world. He looked at how international risks would influence U.S. operations in a given country. [7:17] Chris was also Chief of Emergency Planning for the Department of State twice. That gave him a wide view of how risks develop and how to develop response plans to those risks. [7:40] About 2014, The Department of State set up an ERM program. Chris was at the initial meeting. Senior officials were using terms he knew but with different meanings. That led Chris to investigate further into the meaning of enterprise risk and how to integrate it. [8:24] What Chris loves is helping other people understand and build ERM programs. That's why now, since retiring from the Department of State, Chris has moved into consulting. He sees it as a great opportunity to bridge the silos for a better understanding of what we're trying to achieve. [8:51] Chris is excited about presenting his session where he talks not only about the risks but also how you find the opportunities in those risks. It's about building a powerful ERM program that gets buy-in from stakeholders and imbuing ERM into your organization's culture. [9:29] Chris, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for joining us here on RIMScast. [9:43] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On November 25th, Resolver returns to discuss “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader”. [9:54] On December 5th, we have “Predictive Strategies to Detect Electrical and Machinery Failures”, presented by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD company. [10:06] On Thursday, December 12th, OneTrust returns to deliver “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring”. [10:16] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [10:28] RIMS is now accepting nominations for all awards other than Risk Manager of the Year 2025. The submission deadline is Monday, January 6th, 2025. To receive a RIMS award, all winners must be active members and in good standing. [10:48] The awards are the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Chapter Leadership Award, the Harry and Dorothy Goodell Award, the Volunteer of the Year “Heart of RIMS” Award, the Richard W. Bland Memorial Award, the Chapter of the Year Award, the Rising Risk Professional Award, the Risk Management Hall of Fame, and the Cristy Award. [11:26] You can find more information about the awards through the About Us page of RIMS.org or the link in this interview's show notes. [11:35] Final Interview! Catrina Gilbert is a previous ERM Conference speaker. Catrina is well known in ERM in Texas and the DFW RIMS Chapter. We will talk about how ERM influences aviation and some of the risk awareness campaigns she champions at the DFW Airport. [11:56] Catrina Gilbert, welcome to RIMScast! Catrina is the Vice President of Risk Management at the DFW Airport and the Treasurer of the RIMS DFW Chapter. Justin and Catrina have known each other for a few years. [12:30] Catrina is absolutely loving the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. Boston is beautiful this time of year. The speakers, the lineup, the vendors, and the food have been amazing! Every session has been standing-room-only! The Conference is at maximum capacity. [12:54] It adds to the excitement. It is beautiful to see all these great minds from different industries, states, and countries converging on Boston! Catrina had “chowda” for the first time! [13:37] Catrina states that there is never a dull moment in aviation. Airports are growing and rebounding from the pandemic, doing all sorts of construction projects. DFW has a $9B Capital Improvement Plan. From an insurance and claims perspective, that keeps Catrina very busy. [14:02] The DFW Airport has a rolling owner-controlled insurance program, which keeps Catrina super busy. Catrina is also responsible for the airport's ERM program. That's why Catrina is at the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. [14:16] Having the ERM program and being rooted in the organization at the ground level and the executive level, Catrina makes sure that everyone on the airport's Risk Council understands that ERM can also stand for “Everyone's a Risk Manager.”. [14:37] Catrina is trying to empower the team to think strategically and holistically, and to think about how different programs and platforms have interdependencies. If we have an issue here, how is it going to impact, perhaps, the runway or the concessions? [14:57] Catrina is looking at a resiliency framework; how do we bounce back? A lot of organizations are still struggling from the pandemic. Everyone is focused on a resiliency framework. When this happens again, are we ready? That's the beauty of this conference. [15:33] Catrina says every holiday is the best time of the year at an airport! There's no such thing as the worst time of the year. The beauty of an airport is that it connects people around the globe. The holidays are a special time for everyone. Airports love playing a part in that journey. [16:14] Catrina has been at DFW for almost eight years. She has been in risk management since 1999. She has done risk in several industries. Aviation is, by far, her favorite. There is never a dull moment; two days are never the same. DFW Airport is a city, with all the departments. [17:22] Trisha Sqrow and Sandra Fontenot, past RIMScast guests, were DFW colleagues of Catrina's. Trisha is doing great work at the Conference. Sandra Fontenot is doing great work at the RIMS DFW Chapter and helped Catrina with the annual chapter conference. [17:37] Catrina says we grow when we move, but RIMS and risk management keep people together. Catrina thinks the work that they did together at DFW Airport is one of the reasons they're still colleagues and friends. They still share ideas and speak at conferences together. [18:31] Catrina has 12 people in her risk group at the DFW Airport. At her previous airport, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta, she was a department of one. She reported to the city. She hears “department of one” a lot at the Conference, maybe two or three. Everything's bigger in Texas. [19:03] Catrina looks for fresh ideas in a new risk hire. DFW had Innovation Week last week. Seeing the great ideas coming through in the aviation industry, including AI, Catrina wants people who have an open mind, are innovative, and are willing to try some new things. [19:37] You can teach the rest of it. Catrina wants people with the soft skills, the personality, and the ability to jump in there, push up their sleeves, and try it out. [19:57] Justin recently noticed in the restrooms at DFW Airport posters on Human Trafficking Awareness. He is a big proponent of human trafficking awareness. He has led those initiatives at RIMS. He was glad to see that DFW is one of the many airports boosting awareness. [20:18] DFW is one of many airports in this fight against human trafficking. They have training, posters, and placards to educate you to say something if you see something and how to report what you see. It's better to be safe than sorry. DFW provides you with a way to report. [21:06] The Human Trafficking Awareness campaign is a team effort. It went through the Community Engagement Team, the Customer Experience Team, and the Department of Public Safety. Everyone worked hand-in-hand to be on the same beat in fighting human trafficking.  [21:32] DFW is proud to be a part of the global Sunflower Lanyard Program, designed to make hidden disabilities a little bit more visible. A passenger who has a hidden disability will receive a Sunflower Lanyard by mail before their departure date. [21:54] When the passenger with the hidden disability is in the terminals, DFW employees have been trained to recognize the Lanyard and give them a tailored experience by asking how they can assist the passenger to have a wonderful travel experience. [22:14] It's about providing for the diverse needs of a diverse population to ensure that everybody has the same experience in traveling. [22:25] What a delight to finally have Christoper Stitt and Catrina Gilbert as our special guests here on RIMScast! [22:33] Check out this episode's show notes for links about the ERM Award of Distinction Winners and Honorees and more about the Conference. Of course, we also have a special edition of Risk Management magazine dedicated to ERM. That's available in the show notes. [22:52] More RIMS Plugs! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [23:27] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [24:13] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [24:30] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [24:47] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [25:01] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [25:09] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RIMS ERM Conference 2024 Roundup — Global Award of Distinction Honors RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center RIMS DEI Council RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring Valerie Fox!  Nominations open for RIMS 2025 Awards! (Through Jan. 6, 2025) Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award RIMS Webinars: “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader” | Sponsored by Resolver | Nov. 25, 2024 “Predictive Strategies to Detect Electrical and Machinery Failures” | Sponsored by TUV SUD GRC | Dec. 5, 2024 “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring” | Sponsored by OneTrust | Dec. 12, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep (Virtual)Dec. 17‒18, 2024 | 9:00 am‒4:00 pm EST — Register by Dec. 10. “Applying and Integrating ERM” | Dec 4‒5 “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique” | Dec. 17‒18 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Risk Quantification Through Value-Based Frameworks” “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw” “Applying ERM Theory with Elise Farnham” “On Risk Appetite and Tolerance” “Big Shifts with John Hagel, RIMS ERM Conference Keynote” “Live From RIMS ERM Conference 2023”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL (New!) “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars Risk Management Magazine ERM Special Edition RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guests: Christopher Stitt, Founder and CEO at CrisisLead, LLC   Catrina Gilbert, Vice President of Risk Management at Dallas Fort Worth International Airport RIMS DFW Chapter Treasurer   Social Shareables (Edited For Social Media Use): The Risk Intelligence Quotient (how you look at risk), along with the human-centric aspects of the risk program, can help you build a good risk culture and ultimately, a high-performing organization that can thrive during both business-as-usual and disruption. — Christopher Stitt   What I really love is helping other people understand and build ERM programs. That's why now, since I retired from the Department of State, I have moved into consulting. It's a great opportunity to bridge the silos. — Christopher Stitt   It's about building those cultures that can build very powerful ERM programs that get buy-in from the stakeholders and imbuing ERM into the culture of your organization. — Christopher Stitt   In a post-pandemic era, everyone is focused on a resiliency framework. When this happens again, are we ready? Are we prepared? Have we done the work? That's the beauty of this RIMS ERM Conference 2024. — Catrina Gilbert   You can teach the rest of risk management. I want people with the soft skills, the personality, and the ability to jump in there, push up their sleeves, and try it out. — Catrina Gilbert   We have training, posters, and placards to educate you to say something if you see something and to have a way in which to report human trafficking. — Catrina Gilbert

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Andrew Bent on risk management involvement in developing requirements for contracts, the most important thing a risk professional can do before they start drafting insurance requirements, and the types of coverages and limits to include in a contract. Andrew shares his approach to reviewing contracts received from other organizations, and his pet peeves about reviewing contracts that have requests for endorsements or policy coverages that are hard to obtain or no longer exist. He shares some general tips for negotiations. Listen in for advice on win-win strategies in contract negotiations.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:14] Member registration for RISKWORLD 2025 is now open! General registration opens on December 4th. Visit RIMS.org/RISKWORLD. [:26] About this episode. From RIMS headquarters in New York, we will delve into the importance of contract review in risk management with our guest today, Andrew Bent. [:47] The next RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep Virtual Workshop will be held on December 17th and 18th. The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. [1:06] Links to these courses can be found on the Certification page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:13] RIMS Virtual Workshops! “Risk Appetite Management” is back by popular demand. Registration closes November 19th for the session on November 20th and 21st. That session will be led by Ken Baker. [1:28] Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. On December 4th and 5th, she will host “Applying and Integrating ERM”. On December 17th and 18th, she will host “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique”. [1:45] Those are just three of the workshops RIMS offers; we have lots more! Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar, RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [1:57] Interview! Our guest today has 20 years of experience as a risk management professional and consultant and is known for the development, implementation, and optimization of ERM frameworks. He is Andrew Bent, the Senior Engagement Lead from Marsh Advisory. [2:17] Andrew is also one of the founding members of the RIMS CRMP Commission. He's here to talk about the importance of contract review in risk management and to provide tips and strategies for effective review. [2:28] We will also discuss how contract review can even influence business relationships. Andrew Bent, welcome to RIMScast! [2:57] Andrew started in New Zealand as a chemical engineer. He compares chemical processes with risk frameworks. He then worked in risk management with the New Zealand Customs Service. [4:11] Australia and New Zealand's governments made drastic cuts to public service about how resources were deployed. They did this with good risk management theory, the 4360 standard. [4:48] The Customs Service applied the 4360 standard to the risks of people, crafts, and goods coming across the border. They did risk assessments on many things. It was a good way for Andrew to understand how risk works and how to either mitigate risks or live with them. [5:22] There are only so many shipping containers that can get opened every day and so many people who can be evaluated every day if you don't want to shut down your country's entire commerce trade and flow. [5:41] Andrew stayed there for a few years. Then he moved to Canada in 2009, a financially difficult time. He loved Canada and found the people to be similar to New Zealanders. He worked in a large municipal police agency in Western Canada. [6:55] They were forward-thinking and strategic in how they thought about risk. He was able to help set up an enterprise risk management team and help accelerate the integration of strategy and risk. [7:17] For a time, Andrew was the only chemical engineer in the world who had moved to Alberta and didn't work for an oil and gas company. So he went to work for an oil and gas company for a while. [7:27] Andrew found RISKWORLD hugely beneficial to his work. Andrew had a challenging job working beside health and safety folk. He developed a broad range of understanding of health and safety rules and regulations and helpful insights into operations and business. [7:54] Andrew then moved back into the regulatory space with one of the provincial energy regulators. Then he met his now wife, an American. They had a long-distance commuting relationship until he moved down to the U.S. and subsequently to Washington, D.C. [8:23] Along the way, Andrew had a couple of additional jobs, including cyberspace and risk management teams and risk management functions in the gig economy. [8:51] Fundamentally, Andrew has found that risk management breaks down into understanding what you are trying to do, what your inputs are, what your risks are, and managing them as much or as little as your risk appetite needs. [9:33] Andrew says contract review usually has the deepest understanding of what is and what is not insured under current programs of insurance. That helps them inform contract owners about what are and are not acceptable levels of risk they can assume in most contracts. [9:54] Contract review helps to draw out the discussions around the organization's risk-reward balances that they want to make sure are built into contracts. They can get overlooked in the rush to get a deal done. Contract review wants to bring that balance back to the conversation. [10:27] Contract review also provides advice on some of the types of risk controls outside of insurance risk transfer that a contract owner should be thinking about, such as cyber, IT controls, data protection, health and safety, and a host of other issues. [10:49] Contract owners should be thinking about and potentially building into their contracts as part of the negotiation with the counterparty. This is a two-way negotiation. We always want to be thinking about what each party is trying to achieve out of this contract. [11:16] As risk management professionals, part of our role is to be the grownup in the room while everyone else is rushing to get the deal done. We often have to take a step back and ask if this is the right deal to be done. [11:32] If it is, what do we need to protect and what value do we bring to the organization if the deal is done? [11:52] Andrew believes the most important thing a risk professional can do before drafting insurance requirements is to talk to the person who wants the contract. Andrew rarely sees it happen but it is the single most important thing to happen before writing any requirements. [12:15] Everyone involved needs to understand the purpose of the contract. Why are we doing this? What is being proposed here? What's the work that needs to be done? What are the services that are going to be delivered? [12:31] What are the organizational objectives to be achieved by entering this contract? Andrew shares an example from his career of how this is discussed, with a small vendor providing a critical service but who had trouble with the standard contract. Flexibility was needed. [14:46] If you understand the work or services to be provided in a contract, you're two-thirds of the way to understanding what risks need to be covered by insurance or another way. If someone's digging a ditch at your building, they probably don't need to provide cyber coverage. [15:40] In cases where you have people moving between sites, you might need to include auto coverage. Workers' compensation coverage is always something you need to think about. You don't want to end up being on the hook if a contractor is injured working for you. [16:19] Some things may not just need to be in our insurance provisions within a contract but also into the liability or other sections of the contract. You need to see the entire contract, not just the insurance provisions within the contract. [16:48] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On November 21st, HUB International returns with the fourth installment of their Ready for Tomorrow series, “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures”. [17:07] On November 25th, Resolver returns to discuss “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader”. [17:15] On December 5th, we have “Predictive Strategies to Detect Electrical and Machinery Failures”, presented by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD company. [17:27] On Thursday, December 12th, OneTrust returns to deliver “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring”. [17:36] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [17:48] RIMS is now accepting nominations for all awards other than Risk Manager of the Year 2025. The submission deadline is Monday, January 6th, 2025. To receive a RIMS award, all winners must be active members and in good standing. [18:08] The awards are the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Chapter Leadership Award, the Harry and Dorothy Goodell Award, the Volunteer of the Year “Heart of RIMS” Award, the Richard W. Bland Memorial Award, the Chapter of the Year Award, the Rising Risk Professional Award, the Risk Management Hall of Fame, and the Cristy Award. [18:46] You can find more information about the awards through the About Us page of RIMS.org or the link in this interview's show notes. [18:55] Back to My Interview with Andrew Bent! [19:10] When Andrew reviews a contract his organization has received from another organization, he keeps in mind that everyone tries to negotiate a contract in a way that is most beneficial for them. [19:21] In an ideal world, everyone approaches contract negotiation as a win-win, but most of the time, people come in with their ideal position. Understand the other party. A large company will have multiple layers and a legal department to negotiate through and changes will take time. [20:35] If you're dealing with a smaller organization, maybe a one-person shop, be aware that they may not have a lot of risk management knowledge. Don't take advantage of that. As a risk management professional, you have an ethical obligation to do the right thing. [21:08] You need to make sure to protect your organization. You also want to make sure that the counterparty you're contracting with is also left in a position where if something does go wrong, they're not destroyed. [21:26] Andrew doesn't want to be the proud owner of someone's home because that's the only asset they have. Be sensible about the obligations and insurance requirements you place on parties, particularly on those without a lot of assets. Be thoughtful in managing those things. [21:58] You have to be able to think about what the other party is looking to protect and to achieve out of this contract. That doesn't mean you give up your objectives, limits, and red lines. [22:17] Step out of your viewpoint briefly and put yourself in their shoes. It gives you a perspective on what might be a reasonable compromise between the two positions and helps you get to an agreed position faster and more efficiently. [22:45] Andrew's Number One pet peeve is people who refuse to negotiate. Everyone starts with their ideal position but if you're not prepared to move, then you're not prepared to do business. Every contract needs to be a two-party agreement or you're not being commensurate. [23:16] Another pet peeve is requesting things that aren't going to help you manage your risk. If Andrew is looking at a contract from a counterparty and they're asking for things that bear no resemblance to the scope of work, that tells him they're phoning it in with a standard contract. [23:42] If Andrew gets both of those things together, he asks if this is the level of input in their contract, what will they be like to work with? You can learn a lot about the people you are potentially going to work with by how they negotiate and work through that process. [24:07] If they're prepared to come to the table and have a reasonable discussion, not always an easy discussion, that says a lot about how they're going to work once they've got ink on paper and you're into the business you want to get into. [24:34] Andrew has had requests for a form that doesn't exist anymore. This is driven by very old standard contract language that hasn't been updated since 1984. He uses it as an opportunity to educate. Some people refuse to be educated. The computer says they need that form. [25:20] That shows what they would be like to work with. You need to understand what you are trying to achieve and how important this particular contract is. Sometimes you just have to walk away when the value of doing what the counterparty is asking for isn't worth it to you. [26:05] Andrew gives examples of both a reasonable requirement and an unreasonable requirement from a landlord if you want to do construction within a newly leased building. It's about how, where, and what those requests are and how reasonable they are in the contract. [27:12] Remember that you are working with another party toward a mutual benefit. A legally binding contract is between two parties that come to some agreement with a transfer of services and payment between them. There has to be something of value to both parties. [27:39] You're there for a reason. Even if you can go in hot and heavy, unwilling to bend, that doesn't mean you should even if there is a power imbalance between the two parties. [28:24] There is another party, another person or group, involved here. Treat them with the courtesy, respect, and professional dignity you would like to receive as well. Work with them. Try to understand their position. [28:51] It's OK to walk away. There are some deals that you're just not going to get done. There are times when the best course of action is just to say, Look, we gave it the old college try, and for whatever reason the risk appetite and the risk tolerance for both parties didn't line up. [29:28] If you do it respectfully and professionally, you maintain that relationship for the future, and maybe next time it will work out; it just didn't this time. Be professional, be thoughtful, be mindful of your position, and also be mindful of the other party. [30:02] Special thanks again to Andrew Bent for joining us here on RIMScast! Andrew will be making an appearance in our brand-new video series for the RIMS-CRMP. We'll eventually update this episode's show notes with that link. [30:16] More RIMS Plugs! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [30:51] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [31:36] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [31:53] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [32:10] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [32:24] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [32:31] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RIMS DEI Council RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring Valerie Fox! Nominations open for RIMS 2025 Awards! (Through Jan. 6, 2025) Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award RIMS Webinars: “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures” | Sponsored by Hub International | Nov. 21, 2024 “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader” | Sponsored by Resolver | Nov. 25, 2024 “Predictive Strategies to Detect Electrical and Machinery Failures” | Sponsored by TUV SUD GRC | Dec. 5, 2024 “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring” | Sponsored by OneTrust | Dec. 12, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep (Virtual)Dec. 17‒18, 2024 | 9:00 am‒4:00 pm EST — Register by Dec. 10. “Applying and Integrating ERM” | Dec 4‒5 “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique” | Dec. 17‒18 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Risk Quantification Through Value-Based Frameworks” “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw” “Applying ERM Theory with Elise Farnham” “On Risk Appetite and Tolerance”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Risk Management in a Changing World: A Deep Dive into AXA's 2024 Future Risks Report” | Sponsored by AXA XL (New!) “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Andrew Bent, Senior Vice President, Senior Engagement Lead, Marsh Advisory — Strategic Risk Consulting Founding Member of the RIMS-CRMP Commission   Social Shareables (Edited For Social Media Use): There are only so many shipping containers that can be opened every day and so many people who can be evaluated every day if you don't want to shut down your country's entire commerce trade. — Andrew Bent   If you understand the services to be provided in a contract, you're two-thirds of the way to understanding what risks need to be covered. If someone's digging a ditch at your building, they probably don't need to provide cyber coverage. — Andrew Bent   You need to make sure to protect your organization. You also want to make sure that the counterparty you're contracting with is also left in a position where if something does go wrong, they're not destroyed. — Andrew Bent   Step out of your viewpoint and put yourself in their shoes. It gives you a perspective on what might be a reasonable compromise between the two positions and helps you get to an agreed position faster and more efficiently. — Andrew Bent   Everyone starts with their ideal position but if you're not prepared to move, then you're not prepared to do business. Every contract needs to be a two-party agreement or you're not being commensurate. — Andrew Bent   There are some deals that you're just not going to get done. There are times when the best course of action is just to say, Look, we gave it the old college try, and for whatever reason the risk appetite and the risk tolerance for both parties didn't line up. — Andrew Bent

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Kevin Stein, the CEO of Delos Insurance Solutions. Kevin tells of his aerospace engineering background and how modeling led him to the insurance space. He speaks of his passion for insurance, and of co-founding Delos Insurance Solutions to fill the commercial coverage gap around California Wildfires. Kevin speaks of his optimism for the future of Wildfire control with property fire-hardening principles and new detection and deterrent technology. Listen in for advice on hardening commercial properties against wildfire risk, and how to secure coverage against this risk.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:15] About this episode. From RIMS headquarters in New York, our guest today is Kevin Stein, the CEO of Delos Insurance and we will discuss wildfire risk. [:39] The next RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep will be held with Purima virtually on November 14th and 15th. The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. [:58] Links to these courses can be found on the Certifications page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:05] RIMS Virtual Workshops! “Risk Appetite Management” is back by popular demand. Registration closes November 19th for the session on November 20th and 21st. That session will be led by Ken Baker. [1:20] Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. On December 4th and 5th, she will host “Applying and Integrating ERM”. On December 17th and 18th, she will host “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique”. [1:37] Those are just three of the workshops RIMS offers; we have lots more! Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar, RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [1:49] This is the last call to register for the RIMS ERM Conference 2024 which will be held on November 18‒19, 2024 in Boston, Massachusetts. The agenda is live, we've got a great keynote, and we've got so many fantastic educational sessions and networking opportunities for you! [2:07] So visit the Events page of RIMS.org and register today! A link is also in this episode's show notes. [2:14] Interview! Climate change and wildfire risks are on our minds here at RIMScast! My take is that there is no longer a wildfire season here in the U.S., it's just wildfire year. Let's see if our guest agrees with me, and what risk managers can do to combat and mitigate this problem. [2:39] My guest is Kevin Stein. He is the CEO of Delos Insurance Solutions and he is an aerospace engineer by training. We're going to get a fascinating perspective from him on wildfire risks and what risk professionals can do to limit their exposure. [2:56] We're also going to talk about the trends driving wildfire reduction techniques. Let's get to it! Kevin Stein, welcome to RIMScast! [3:21] Kevin and a Co-founder started Delos Insurance Solutions in 2017. It is a specialty MGA. They sell policies across California in areas that other insurers have vacated because of perceived wildfire exposure in those regions. [3:40] Delos Insurance Solutions is in partnership with an environment think tank made up of 100 professors, post-doc scientists, and the top wildfire researchers in the world. [99] They have co-developed the civil government models for agencies including CalFire, the Public Utilities Commission, and the U.S. Forestry Service, for 25 years. [4:04] With the think tank, Delos Insurance Solutions has developed more sophisticated wildfire underwriting internal tools and models that give a sense of a per-risk view of wildfire exposure as well as a portfolio-level view of wildfire exposure. [4:19] With that, Delos Insurance Solutions has developed a number of programs. They sell home insurance, landlord's insurance, and vacant home insurance across California. [4:33] Kevin tells about his experience as an aerospace engineer. He did his Master's in Aerospace Engineering at Stanford. He started on the modeling side and found his way into insurance. [4:56] Kevin finds insurance fascinating. He says that everybody in the industry understands how interesting insurance is and everybody outside the insurance industry does not. Having gone from outside the industry to inside it, Kevin says the people in the industry are correct. [5:13] Kevin says there are many different, interesting aspects of insurance and his career has been a wild ride. [5:40] Kevin says the reality of wildfire season is that wildfires can happen at any time. There need to be specific conditions for these fires to become large, destructive wildfires. Conditions need to be hot, dry, and windy and there needs to be fuel. [6:01] The seasons have been changing. In California, the wildfire seasons in 2017 and 2018 were very destructive. Historically, Northern California has a rainy season from mid-October through late March or early April. In 2017 they had sun through the end of December and rain until June. [6:43] During the Fall, Northern California has a lake effect of winds coming over the mountains out to the ocean, and it's usually stormy. In 2017 and 2018, they had 100-degree temperatures, the vegetation had been dry for six months, and the extreme winds led to fire superstorms. [7:11] In any wildfire area, once sustained rains start, you're in a more comfortable position. You need vegetation that's been dried out for a while to have large fire superstorms but even in the Spring or early Summer, you can have individual or smaller fires that threaten your properties. [7:37] The antidote to smaller, individual fires is to implement property-hardening techniques on commercial properties that effectively protect structures against smaller, slower-moving fires. [8:25] Fires are spreading. The Salem, Massachusetts fires, the Eastern Canada fires, the Hawaiian fires, the fires in Oklahoma, and in San Diego show that fires can happen in a lot of geographies now that have not experienced fires before. [8:59] This has a big effect on the insurance market. Insurers and reinsurers are looking at the spread and prevalence of wildfires and getting more concerned about what that means for their average exposure and maximum exposure. [9:18] The price of re-insurance is going up significantly and the availability of re-insurance and capacity is going down significantly. [9:28] The key for folks who own properties and large buildings and who rely on risk transfer as an effective means for managing their risk, is to be more creative and find more specialty groups. [9:49] The insurance industry is morphing. The previous structure included wildfire exposure with hurricane exposure and tornado exposure. Now many of them will exclude wildfire. [10:16] Risk managers will have to find specialty groups that are underwriting wildfire exposure more effectively and capturing re-insurance capacity more effectively to provide policies for people with this exposure. [10:40] A key to understanding your fire exposure is to understand what type of fires you are potentially exposed to. There are wind-driven fire locations, moisture-driven fire locations, and vegetation-driven fire locations. [10:58] To harden your property to vegetation fires, make the area around your building either a parking lot or drought-resistant, fire-resistant landscaping. Don't use bark or woodchips. You can have small scattered plants surrounded by concrete to avoid the risk of vegetation fire. [11:50] With wind-driven fires, your biggest risk is embers. Embers can catch a building on fire by igniting vegetation at the base of the structure, so remove all vegetation against the structure or under eaves, especially with single-story structures. [12:20] Embers can also get inside structures. Have ember-mesh screens on air intakes, such as those used by the HVAC system, and any openings in the foundation and your eaves. [13:03] Build structures out of fire-resistant materials. Shingles and siding need to be fire-resistant or fire-safe. Use double-pane windows. Single-pane windows crack in fires and embers can get in. Use ember-mesh screens. [13:59] For landscaping, make sure it is drought-resistant and fire-resistant. [13:52] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On November 14th, Marsh will present “Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape”. [14:03] On November 21st, HUB International returns with the fourth installment of their Ready for Tomorrow series, “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures”. [14:17] On November 25th, Resolver returns to discuss “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader”. [14:26] On December 5th, we have “Predictive Strategies to Detect Electrical and Machinery Failures”, presented by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD company. [14:37] On Thursday, December 12th, OneTrust returns to deliver “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring”. [14:47] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [14:59] RIMS is now accepting nominations for all awards other than Risk Manager of the Year 2025. The submission deadline is Monday, January 6th, 2025. To receive a RIMS award, all winners must be active members and in good standing. [15:19]  The awards are the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Chapter Leadership Award, the Harry and Dorothy Goodell Award, the Volunteer of the Year “Heart of RIMS” Award, the Richard W. Bland Memorial Award, the Chapter of the Year Award, the Rising Risk Professional Award, the Risk Management Hall of Fame, and the Cristy Award. [15:57] You can find more information about the awards through the About Us page of RIMS.org or the link in this interview's show notes. [16:06] Back to My Interview About Wildfire Risks with Kevin Stein! [16:36] Kevin has a really optimistic view of the future of wildfire risk. A lot of that has to do with firefighting strategies and resources. The California government has put massive amounts of money into forest management and it's been very effective. [17:01] Kevin is optimistic about the new technology. Improved outdoor sprinklers are triggered if a fire is oncoming and douse everything in water or fire-retardant material. Sensors are put in different locations to recognize fire quickly. [17:39] How fast firefighters get to a wildfire is hugely important in terms of how big the fire will be. Fires that are reached and controlled quickly don't become giant superstorms. Giant superstorms cause significant loss and burn down large buildings. Small wildfires can't do that. [18:07] The sensors are put on a variety of buildings to recognize smoke automatically with computer vision AI built in. Some longer-term technology is very interesting. In the future, there will be drone armies to replace the helicopters to pour fire retardant or water on top of wildfires. [19:10] Commercial clients can deal with re-insurers like Lloyd's of London to get coverage. Property-hardening characteristics and technologies come into play with a detailed assessment of the defensibility of the structure. [20:38] Wildfire Re-insurers are moving from being generalists to being specialists. Generalist actuaries study years of loss history to predict losses for the next year. Specialist perils require area expertise because the risks cannot be handled simply through large amounts of data. [21:13] Cyber is a great example of this. Cyber insurance was first bundled with general liability. The carriers soon realized they had no expertise to predict cyber risk so they excluded it. Specialty groups with expertise popped up to fill the gap in the market. [21:36] This has happened with flood insurance, hurricane insurance in Florida, and earthquake insurance. Wildfire is the next one. It's changing very rapidly. It's very complicated, so you need people with area expertise to be able to underwrite it profitably. [21:58] There is a trend where primary carriers are pulling back. They're making the sound decision for a risk manager who can't understand a peril. This opens up space for specialists to jump in, like Delos Insurance Solutions. Kevin says more groups will show up to serve the sector. [22:54] Kevin reveals some of his aerospace engineer experience. He put in a proposal to NASA for a heliocentric spacecraft to look for life on Alpha Centauri. That wasn't chosen, but there was an interesting satellite project he worked on. [23:35] Kevin helped create two NBN satellites to provide internet to all of Australia, combined with a detailed fiber network. Kevin managed everything mechanical on the build of those two satellites. [24:25] Special thanks again to Kevin Stein of Delos Insurance Solutions for joining us today on RIMScast. RIMS has a Wildfire Resources Page on RIMS.org. A link is in this interview's show notes. Be sure to go there for more insight and information on how you can combat wildfire risk. [24:44] More RIMS Plugs! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. 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The California government has put massive amounts of money into forest management and it's been very effective. — Kevin Stein   Sensors can be put in different locations to recognize fire quickly. How fast firefighters get to a wildfire is hugely important in terms of how big the fire will be. Fires that are reached and controlled quickly don't become giant superstorms. — Kevin Stein   There is a trend where primary carriers are pulling back. They're making the sound decision for a risk manager who can't understand a peril. This opens up space for specialists like Delos Insurance Solutions to jump in. Other groups will follow. — Kevin Stein  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Valerie Fox, the 2024 Donald M. Stuart Award Winner. Valerie and Justin discuss her receiving the Donald M. Stuart Award and what this recognition means to her. Valerie tells how her journey in risk management has evolved over her 42-year career. Valerie has held prominent roles across a diverse range of industries. She shares some highlights and challenges of her career. Valerie remarks on the education opportunities, taking on leadership roles, and networking, that ORIMS and RIMS provided for her that helped her develop and advance in her risk career. She shares details of a long-term international project that stretched her and that she is proud of. Valerie offers her expectations for the future of risk management and how today's students can prepare themselves to be tomorrow's risk leaders. Valerie hopes to continue her student outreach and offer them the knowledge to guide their paths. Listen in for advice on resilience and lifelong learning to keep up with the evolving risk management industry.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:15] About this episode. From RIMS headquarters in New York, I am delighted to be joined by Valerie Fox, the 2024 Donald M. Stuart Award Winner and a RIMS-CRMP holder! [:41] The next RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep will be held with PARIMA virtually on November 14th and 15th. The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. [:57] Links to these courses can be found on the Certifications page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:04] RIMS Virtual Workshops! Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. On December 4th and 5th, she will host Applying and Integrating ERM. On December 17th and 18th, she will host Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique. [1:26] Those are just two of the workshops RIMS offers; we have lots more! Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar, RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. We've got more important plugs coming during the break. Now, let's get on with the show! [1:44] Interview! The RIMS Ontario Chapter (ORIMS) presented the Donald M. Stuart Award to our guest, Valerie Fox, at the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 in Vancouver. [1:57] Valerie is a CRM holder, a RIMS-CRMP holder, and the former Director of Risk Management and Health and Safety for NPL Canada. She has since retired. [2:14] The Donald M. Stuart Award is widely recognized as Canada's highest honor within the risk management field and since 1979, has celebrated Canadians who have made outstanding contributions to the profession. [2:28] Throughout her 42-year career, Valerie has held prominent leadership roles in risk management for a range of multinational corporations, including Walmart and Wendy's Restaurants of Canada. [2:44] We'll talk a bit about her career, how she sees the risk profession evolving, and why she's so inspired by the next generation of risk management professionals. Donald M. Stuart Award Winner, Valerie Fox, welcome to RIMScast! [3:33] Valerie notes that winning the Donald M. Stuart Award was a very special moment for her. She has a tremendous respect for the history of the Donald M. Stuart Award and the professional values it represents. [4:04] When Valerie was VP of the Ontario RIMS Chapter Board in 2017, she was responsible for the oversight of this award. She enjoyed it so much that she continued to be the presenter of the award for the last seven years. This year, she stepped down from the ORIMS Board. [4:25] When Valerie stepped down from the ORIMS board, her colleagues nominated her for the award. She couldn't be more humbled or appreciative of their recognition and support. To be recognized alongside the people she presented the award to over the years is very special. [5:02] ORIMS accepts nominations from all over the country. It's an award for all of Canada and is overseen by the Ontario Chapter. The nomination process has two stages. [5:21] If a nomination clears the first stage, a total nomination package is submitted with further documentation. The package goes to a panel of evaluators across the country, including risk managers, people on boards, and insurance companies and brokers. [5:44] They evaluate the nominations. The person with the top collective score wins the award. They're looking at the nominees' history with their companies, volunteerism, and the tenets the award represents. It's the Canadian version of RIMS Risk Manager of the Year. [6:36] Valerie's first role as a risk manager was Manager of Contracts and Insurance. She bought insurance, handled claims, and implemented some risk control of targeted risks. [6:56] The job description of a risk manager has evolved immensely and varies greatly from entity to entity, depending on the company's maturity, operations, experiences, losses, and more. [7:16] You could still be hired today as Manager of Contracts and Insurance but you could also be aspiring to be a Chief Risk Officer of a major, multi-national corporation with the responsibility to help them be more resilient and grow. [7:41] Valerie saw the evolution in risk management start very slowly. It has continually ramped up and now is speeding forward. [7:50] Over her career, Valerie had to be willing to delve into new challenges and be prepared to learn and develop new skills and new mitigation strategies and develop broad-based business knowledge. Without that knowledge, it's difficult to assess potential impacts. [8:33] Different industries have different areas of risk focus. Valerie started in the airline industry. A major focus was having a major accident response plan ready. There were challenges of jurisdictional insurance requirements and risk exposures around the world. [9:11] Valerie spent five years in the public sector as a risk manager for a municipality. The focus of public entities is protecting people in public spaces, maintaining critical services, and managing reputation. It includes presenting the right answers. [9:51] Valerie worked in the retail industry in domestic and international markets. On her first day at Walmart Canada, she realized how unprepared she was to deal with health and safety and worker's compensation management responsibilities. Those had been under HR in Canada. [10:13] Working for American companies, she had to get up to speed quickly on those areas of risk. Valerie trained herself on the job. She met with anyone she knew in the industry who was involved in health and safety. She met with people from the boards. [10:42] Valerie spent a lot of time in the stores with the associates to see what their concerns were. She spent time with operations leaders, seeing the processes first-hand to understand the risks and put together programs that fit the culture and the environment of the companies. [11:26] Valerie says retailers today need to do a deep-dive business impact analysis, map out dependencies and processes, and have alternative options to avoid business interruption. As a risk manager, you have to understand that to help businesses come up with the right solutions. [11:55] Valerie reviews a case of having to train people quickly after a buyout. [12:52] Valerie talks about working with a new inexperienced team that she had to take under her wing and teach risk management quickly. In large corporations, you also build company-wide teams and external teams that help you. [13:17] Valerie taught CRM courses at the University of Toronto. Later, she had the pleasure of hiring one of her most enthusiastic students for a risk management position. He now works for another company she is close to and he is doing super well. [13:48] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On November 14th, Marsh will present “Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape”. [13:58] On November 21st, HUB International returns with the fourth installment of their Ready for Tomorrow series,  “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures”. [14:13] On November 25th, Resolver returns to discuss “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader”. [14:22] On December 5th, we have “Predictive Strategies to Detect Electrical and Machinery Failures”, presented by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD company.  [14:33] On Thursday, December 12th, OneTrust returns to deliver “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring” [14:42] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [15:01] RIMS is now accepting nominations for all awards other than Risk Manager of the Year 2025. The submission deadline is Monday, January 6th, 2025. To receive a RIMS award, all winners must be active members and in good standing. [15:18]  The awards are the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Chapter Leadership Award, the Harry and Dorothy Goodell Award, the Volunteer of the Year “Heart of RIMS” Award, the Richard W. Bland Memorial Award, the Chapter of the Year Award, the Rising Risk Professional Award, the Risk Management Hall of Fame, and the Cristy Award. [15:56] You can find more information about the awards through the About Us page of RIMS.org or the link in this episode's show notes. I also have a link in the show notes to the nominations page for the Donald M. Stuart Award. Check it out! [16:13] Back to My Interview with 2024 Donald M. Stuart Award Winner, Valerie Fox! [16:33] Valerie was ORIMS President in 2018 and 2019. She also had a couple of terms as Vice President, two terms as Secretary, and more. She is an active ORIMS member and a Director at Large. She intends to continue volunteering, especially with student outreach. [17:28] Justin remembers the wonderful people he worked with when he co-hosted the ORIMS luncheon last year. [17:57] Valerie describes how being involved in RIMS and ORIMS, whether volunteering or participating in regular events, gives you so much to learn both in formal training and networking that greatly helps your career. [18:29] Volunteering on the board gives you leadership development opportunities. Those who step up to do this work are go-getters and prominent professionals who know their jobs. Their ages are from quite young to quite senior. It's a diverse group of leaders. [18:58] You learn a lot about non-profit work and compliance. On the board, Valerie learned a tremendous amount that she has applied elsewhere in her career. You can improve your comfort with public speaking. [20:00] Justin suggests trying stand-up comedy or an improv class three times to develop a foundation of confidence to speak publicly. [20:24] Valerie was on the RIMS Risk Leaders Series. See the link in the show notes. She gave an expansive view of her career and the challenges she overcame using risk management. [19:16] The career accomplishment Valerie is most proud of is with Walmart International. Valerie had to get the risk management process promptly into place and hire a team when Walmart came into Canada in 1994. It was very successful. [21:47] Therefore, Valerie was asked to take a three-year expatriate assignment to work with Walmart's international division as an internal consultant in seven countries where Walmart had recently opened operations. [22:02] She visited each country to work with their leadership teams on insurance brokerage, services, claims, health and safety, food safety, construction, benefits, and whatever they needed. It was tough. It was two-and-a-half years of being far out of her comfort zone. [22:34] At the end of that assignment, she felt like she had made a difference and she had grown as a risk manager and as a person. It was an invaluable experience she is very proud of. [23:01] It was a new way of doing things for Walmart, too. Valerie was a test case. There were some glitches through which Walmart learned and improved its support system for expatriates working around the world. It was an evolution both for Walmart and Valerie. [23:32] Valerie has assisted with RIMS-CRMP workshops in Canada. [24:00] Valerie believes the risk leaders of tomorrow in Canada should take the CRM program and work toward their CRMP certification. There is also a variety of technical training that can help them throughout their careers. [24:18] RIMS has helped Valerie to stay current through seminars and articles. It's extremely important that people have a solid business base. Get out from behind the desk and understand the business and how business is done. [24:47] Going forward, the emerging trend for employers is going to be to look at some of these qualifications as a minimum requirement. Gaining that base knowledge is important. [25:00] Valerie says risk leaders need to focus on the soft skills of team management, social intelligence, communication, and identifying and supporting mental health. Risk management is a people business. Know how to communicate with people and read their reactions. [25:34] Working from home during the pandemic has depleted some opportunities to gain that experience. Future risk leaders need to ensure they have those skills today. [25:59] Valerie is encouraged by the college and university students she has been meeting over the last couple of years of outreach. The students are bright, curious, motivated, and hungry to get out there and make their mark. [26:24] They're comfortable with technology and passionate about the world events that are shaping risks these days. They are the future. She hopes that she can continue to share some tidbits or tribal knowledge that they might find helpful. [26:44] Valerie has concerns about the talent gap as lots of people retire. We need to fill that gap fast. The students she has been seeing indicate to her that the future is bright. [27:01] Justin had the pleasure of attending the McGannon Foundation's closing ceremony for their students. The students are extremely impressive. He feels that we will be seeing them up on stage receiving awards in the not-too-distant future. [27:20] Val, it has been such a pleasure to see you again. I want to congratulate you again on winning the Donald M. Stuart Award in 2024. I look forward to seeing you at more RIMS events. Thank you so much for all you do for ORIMS and RIMS! [27:42] Special thanks again to Valerie Fox for joining us here on RIMScast! It's always a pleasure to speak with her. There is a link to her RIMS Risk Leaders Series interview in this episode's show notes. There is a link to her CRMP Story also in this episode's show notes. [28:02] For more coverage of the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 Awards, check out the October 15th episode of RIMScast, when we were live from Vancouver with Maryam Salmasi. She was the Fred H. Bossons Award Winner for 2024. A link is in this episode's show notes. [28:20] More RIMS Plugs! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [28:53] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [29:36] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [29:53] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [30:09] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [30:23] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [30:30] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RIMS DEI Council RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App Hear Valerie on the RIMS Risk Leaders Series RIMS Press Release: RIMS Ontario Chapter Honours Valerie Fox with the 2024 Donald M. Stuart Award RIMS-CRMP Stories — Featuring Valerie Fox! Nominations open for RIMS 2025 Awards! (Through January 6, 2025) Nominations for the Donald M. Stuart Award RIMS Webinars: “Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape” | Sponsored by Marsh | Nov. 14, 2024 “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures” | Sponsored by Hub International | Nov. 21, 2024 “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader” | Sponsored by Resolver | Nov. 25, 2024 “Predictive Strategies to Detect Electrical and Machinery Failures” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD GRC | Dec. 5, 2024 “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring” | Sponsored by OneTrust | Dec. 12, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA (Virtual) November 14‒15 | 9:00 am‒4:00 pm SGT — Register by Nov. 7. “Applying and Integrating ERM” | Dec 4‒5 “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique” | Dec. 17‒18 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Live From Vancouver! with Maryam Salmasi, Fred H. Bossons Award Winner 2024” “300th Episode Spectacular with RIMS CEO Gary LaBranche” “Change Management and Strategy with Jay Kiew, RIMS Canada Conference 2024 Keynote” “DE&I Initiatives with Lilian Vanvieldt-Gray of Alliant Insurance Services” “Julie Bean, 2024 Heart of RIMS Award Winner”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “How Insurance Builds Resilience Against An Active Assailant Attack” | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog (New!) “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Valerie Fox, CRM, RIMS-CRMP, former Director of Risk Management & Health & Safety for NPL Canada   Social Shareables (Edited For Social Media Use): Evolution in risk management started very slowly. It has continually ramped up and now it's speeding forward. Over my career, that meant I had to be willing to delve into new challenges and be prepared to learn and develop new skills. — Valerie Fox   On the board, I've learned a tremendous amount that I've been able to apply elsewhere in my career. — Valerie Fox   It's extremely important that people have a solid business base. Get out there from behind the desk and really understand the business and how business is done. — Valerie Fox   Students are comfortable with technology and passionate about the world events that are shaping risks these days. They are the future. I hope that I can continue to share some tidbits or tribal knowledge that they might find helpful. — Valerie Fox  

  Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Trisha Sqrow, of Marsh Advisory, and our Council Vice-Chair 2024, Suzanne Christensen, of Franklin Templeton Investments, and making his debut on RIMScast is Karthick Dalawai, of Penn Mutual Life Insurance Company. Karthick, Suzanne, and Trisha discuss value-based frameworks in terms of benefits, their experience with them, and value metrics. They share the concept of a value-based Enterprise Risk Management (ERM) framework to align risk management activities with the creation of shareholder value. They mention risk quantification methodologies to assess financial and non-financial risks. They explain the use of scenario analysis to tailor risk management practices to your organization's risk appetite and objectives and give ideas on how to get buy-in from the boardroom. Listen in for ways to implement a value-based ERM framework in your organization.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:15] About this episode. From RIMS headquarters in New York, we will be joined by three members of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council to discuss risk quantification through a value-based framework. [:43] The RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be held on November 18th and 19th in Boston. Opening keynote speaker John Hagel recently appeared here on RIMScast. Register at RIMS.org/ERM2024. [:58] We will talk about everything from RMIS and AI to D&O, ESG, the SEC, and various other acronyms. If you are a RIMS-CRMP holder, you can earn recertification points by attending the RIMS ERM Conference 2024! [1:16] For those of you interested in studying for the exam, a pre-conference workshop will be held on-site on November 16th and 17th. Register now; a link is on this page! [1:30] The next RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep will be held with Purima virtually on November 14th and 15th. The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. [1:45] Links to these courses can be found on the Certifications page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:53] RIMS Virtual Workshops! Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. On December 4th and 5th, she will host Applying and Integrating ERM. On December 17th and 18th, she will host Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique. [2:14] Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar, RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [2:23] Interview! Returning to the show are Trisha Sqrow, of Marsh Advisory, and our Council Vice-Chair 2024, Suzanne Christensen, of Franklin Templeton Investments, and making his debut on RIMScast is Karthick Dalawai, of Penn Mutual Life Insurance Company. [3:00] These brilliant minds, Trisha, Suzanne, and Karthick, will present the session “Risk Quantification Through Value-Based Frameworks” to kick off Day 2 of the RIMS ERM Conference 2024 on November 19th. [3:15] Today we'll get tips on how to launch a value-based framework, what the benefits and limitations may be, and how to convince your board to buy in. Karthick Dalawai, Trisha Sqrow, and Suzanne Christensen welcome to RIMScast! [4:54] Karthick explains that Enterprise Risk Management in its current form and where it goes from here to enable leaders to make informed decisions tie back to metrics and the quantification of results. [5:22] Doing risk management thematically is good and influential, but anything you don't quantify you can't improve. Risk quantification is essential for a good enterprise risk management program. [5:49] Trisha's risk management path has evolved toward a value-based framework. She suggests an organization could start by measuring its overarching risk appetite, understanding its risks, and putting its ERM framework in place. [6:22] The parameters could be how much financial, regulatory, or strategic risk you want to take. Hone in on what the risk translates to by quantifying the value. [7:03] The metrics may not always be dollar amounts. There may be safety value metrics, or cyber security impacts. There is a way to tie those back to financials in many cases, but you can look at different values. [7:51] Karthick says it's easier to quantify financial risk than intangibles like cyber risk or talent risk. Having a common denominator makes it possible to explain risk so IT, HR, and all departments understand the enterprise risk, not just the risk in their slivers of the organization. [8:58] Defining risk under a value-based framework takes three keys: uncertainty, deviation from the company strategy, and taking the right opportunities to increase value. If you planned to grow 10% and you grew 15%, analyze that opportunity. What was the cost of that benefit? [10:20] Suzanne adds that scenario analysis helps. Why did your growth vary from your planned growth? What do you have to have in place to manage it? With a 15% growth, you'll need more resources and a plan for the logistics. You may need to make a lot of other arrangements. [11:06] You need to think about those things in contingency mode. Scenario analysis does that; it helps you work through those plans. [11:30] Karthick describes the possible limitations of a value-based framework. The common denominator is a financial metric. Executives need to understand what factors contribute to that value. Tying the risk appetite to the value occurs high in the organization. It's all-encompassing. [12:07] You have to break the framework into layers by what it means for the different business units and how they measure business. Rightly implemented, a value-based framework is of great value; otherwise, people might become disconnected from it. [12:37] Suzanne agrees that people might not buy in if the framework is not well-implemented. Suzanne and Karthick discuss avoiding bias and starting with wrong assumptions. [13:02] Karthick believes that gets into the risk culture of the organization. Is it conservative or more aggressive? When you have a quantifiable and measurable risk appetite, some people may tend not to breach it at all. Many times, risk decisions need not be risk-optimized. [13:48] Having a measurable risk metric guides how much risk people can take to add value to the organization, not just to manage the downside. Tie it back to the business metrics through which leaders measure their performance. Having a good manager is a win-win. [14:16] Suzanne adds that weighing the cumulative impact of multiple decisions while figuring out a strategy for the organization helps you think about the risk appetite of the firm and if there is room to take more risk. [14:53] Trisha considers the risk culture of the organization in helping people understand value-based frameworks. There are a lot of conversations to be had with various departments. A financial office does not have the same risks as a manufacturing facility or an airport. [15:28] Work with the people looking at safety metrics and help translate them into dollar amounts, considering insurance and claims. What value does the framework add? [15:45] Help people understand the value-based framework and have conversations around it. How much risk can you take? [16:19] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On October 31st, TÜV SÜD GRC discusses “Mastering Property Renewals: Strategies for Success in 2025 with Risk Engineering”. [16:34] On November 4th, I will be hosting a special RIMS Webinar presentation, “Lessons from Veterans on Strategic Risk Leadership”. That session will feature insights and perspectives from risk managers who previously served in the United States Armed Services. [16:53] On November 14th, Marsh will present “Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape”. [17:00] On November 21st, HUB International returns with the fourth installment of their Ready for Tomorrow series,  “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures”. [17:15] On November 25th, Resolver returns to discuss “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader”. [17:23] On Thursday, December 12th, OneTrust returns to deliver “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring” [17:32] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [17:44] Back to My Interview with Suzanne Christensen, Trisha Sqrow, and Karthick Dalawai. [18:22] Karthick says to ask the executives at your organization if they use the deliverables from ERM in their day-to-day decision-making and how they tie into the metrics. If you get a positive answer, you're in a good spot. If not, a value-based framework is a good solution. [19:00] Every executive business leader manages P&L and understands dollarized values. Value-based frameworks are good tools if they are implemented in the right way. [19:21] Trisha says to consider your impact scoring. That's the beginning of your risk appetite. Work toward getting a common denominator. [19:40] Suzanne comments that to make better, more confident decisions in the organization, and get the executives engaged in the conversation, you want to understand what their tough decisions and challenges are. [20:03] In what would the executives like more transparency and understanding to make their tough strategic or day-to-day decisions? Connect with them where their challenges are as a starting point. That immediately proves value to the organization. [20:41] Trisha and Suzanne have publications discussed in episodes linked in the show notes. Suzanne authored a report on emerging risks and board reporting, “Navigating the Complexities of Emerging Risks”. Trisha co-authored “Developing and Refining Risk Appetite and Tolerance”. [21:21] Suzanne and Karthick will be two of the panelists in the closing general session of the RIMS ERM Conference 2024 on November 19th. That's going to be a forward-looking discussion that will be a lot of fun. [21:57] During that closing session, we're going to give away a registration to RISKWORLD 2025 in Chicago! Everyone should stick around for this session! [22:16] Thank you all so much for joining us today here on RIMScast! [22:25] Special thanks to Trisha Sqrow, Karthick Dalawai, and Suzanne Christensen of the RIMS Strategic and Enterprise Risk Management Council. [22:36] On November 19th, they will kick off Day 2 of the RIMS ERM Conference 2024 in Boston, with a session about Risk Quantification through a Value-based Framework. That will not be the only session they will present, so if you like what you heard, register now at RIMS.org/ERM2024. [22:59] Links to the guests' prior RIMScast interviews and their respective reports are in this episode's show notes. [23:12] More RIMS Plugs! The RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be held in Boston, Massachusetts on November 18th and 19th. Register today at RIMS.org/ERM2024! [23:27] The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [23:58 ] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [24:40] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [24:57] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [25:12] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [25:26] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [25:33] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be in Boston, MA Nov. 18–19 | Register Now RIMS DEI Council RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App RIMS Executive Report: “Developing and Refining Risk Appetite and Tolerance” RIMS Professional Report: “Navigating the Complexities of Emerging Risks” RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring Dan Elliott! Submit Your Nomination for 2025 Risk Manager of the Year — Part I is due on Oct. 31! RIMS Webinars: “Mastering Property Renewals: Strategies for Success in 2025 with Risk Engineering” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company | Oct. 31, 2024 “Lessons from Veterans on Strategic Risk Leadership” | Presented by RIMS | Nov. 4, 2024 “Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape” | Sponsored by Marsh | Nov. 14, 2024 “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures” | Sponsored by HUB International | Nov. 21, 2024 “The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader” | Sponsored by Resolver | Nov. 25, 2024 “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring” | Sponsored by OneTrust | Dec. 12, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA (Virtual) | November 14–15, 2024 | 9:00 am–4:00 pm SGT — Register by Nov. 7 “Applying and Integrating ERM” | Dec 4‒5 “Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique” | Dec. 17–18 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Big Shifts with John Hagel, ERM Conference Keynote” “Applying ERM Theory with Elise Farnham” “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw” “On Risk Appetite and Tolerance” with Trisha Sqrow “Emerging Risks and Board Reporting” with Suzanne Christensen   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Third-Party and Cyber Risk Management Tips” | Sponsored by Alliant (New!) “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyberrisk Outlook 2023” | Sponsored by Alliant “Chemical Industry: How To Succeed Amid Emerging Risks and a Challenging Market” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD “Insuring the Future of the Environment” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Insights into the Gig Economy and its Contractors” | Sponsored by Zurich “The Importance of Disaster Planning Relationships” | Sponsored by ServiceMaster   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guests: Karthick Dalawai, Chief Risk Officer for Penn Mutual Life Insurance Company   Trisha Sqrow, Vice President, Consulting Solutions, Marsh Advisory for Marsh USA Inc.   Suzanne Christensen, SVP, Head of Enterprise Risk Management for Franklin Templeton Investments Social Shareables (Edited For Social Media Use): Why Enterprise Risk Management exists in its current form and where it goes from here tie back to metrics and the quantification of results to enable leaders to make informed decisions. — Karthick Dalawai   Depending on your organization, you might be looking at different values and different types of metrics. Some might be strictly financial. An industry that has significant safety concerns might have a lot of safety value metrics, based on the type of risk. — Trisha Sqrow   Scenario analysis helps because you can run through those situations to say if that happens, then what happens? What do we have to have in place to be able to manage through that? With a 15% growth, you'll need more resources and a plan for the logistics. — Suzanne Christensen  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Chris Willey of American Eagle FCU. Justin asks Chris how banking and financial risk management has evolved since Chris entered the profession, in the past 15 years after the housing crisis, and in the past two years after the SVB collapse. They talk about Chris's 2023 RIMS ERM Global Award of Distinction, how leadership has reacted to the ERM program, and how the program has changed since last year. Chris explains American Eagle FCU's ERM philosophy, including its nine risk categories. Chris shares her thoughts about what it takes to activate an effective ERM Program today, and how ERM can help improve the banking sector and the risk industry overall. October is Cybersecurity Awareness Month. Chris tells what that means to her.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:15] About this episode. From RIMS headquarters in New York, our guest is Chris Willey, the VP of ERM at American Eagle Financial Credit Union. She is also a recipient of the 2023 RIMS ERM Global Award of Distinction. [:43] The RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be held on November 18th and 19th in Boston. Opening keynote speaker John Hagel recently appeared here on RIMScast. Register at RIMS.org/ERM2024. [:58] We will talk about everything from RMIS and AI to D&O, ESG, the SEC, and various other acronyms, in addition to future casting and risk quantification. [1:10] RIMS-CRMP holders can earn recertification points by attending the RIMS ERM Conference 2024! For those interested in studying for the exam, a pre-conference workshop will be held on-site on November 16th and 17th. Register now; a link is on this page! [1:34] The next RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep will be held with Purima virtually on November 14th and 15th. The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. [1:50] Links to these courses can be found on the Certifications page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:57] RIMS Virtual Workshops! Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. On December 4th and 5th, she will host Applying and Integrating ERM. On December 17th and 18th, she will host Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique. [2:20] Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar, RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [2:28] Interview! My guest today, Chris Willey, is the Vice President of Enterprise Risk Management at American Eagle Financial Credit Union. In 2023, her ERM program received a RIMS ERM Global Award of Distinction. We didn't get to connect last year to discuss it. [2:49] We're here now, and we will learn all about Chris Willey's ERM philosophies, how American Eagle FCU handles certain risks, and what their risk register looks like. We will also get some tips for staying cyber secure, as October is International Cybersecurity Awareness Month. [3:06] Chris Willey, welcome to RIMScast! Congratulations again for your ERM program being one of the honorees of the 2023 RIMS ERM Global Award of Distinction! [3:51] Chris started at the credit union 34 years ago in Internal Audits where she got to see and understand the entire organization. In 1998, the board of directors started a risk management department. Chris applied and got the job. [4:25] At first, they worked on traditional risk management, including insurance and fraud. Over the years, they added responsibilities. ERM was the last piece they added to their risk management repertoire, 14 years ago. [4:56] Around the time of the housing crisis, one of the credit union's high-risk areas, the board asked Chris to create an ERM program. Credit union regulators were also instrumental in starting ERM. While not required, having an ERM program is necessary to understand your risks. [6:26] Chris has one staff member, Theresa, the Assistant Vice President, who helps with all facets of risk management. Chris and Theresa do a lot. Chris says it would be nice to have another person helping them. [7:28] After the Silicon Valley Bank collapsed in March 2023, the interest rate risk and liquidity risk got a lot of attention. American Eagle FCU was on top of it. Their interest rate risk was increasing and the ERM program had already begun taking measures to thwart risk. [8:10] American Eagle had scaled back some of their lending and beefed up their liquidity because of what happened on the West Coast. That helped put them in a great spot. [8:44] The regulators had come down hard on them and American Eagle did a lot of things to prove that they were going to be OK. The regulators are the insurers so wanted to make sure American Eagle had enough liquidity in case something happened like that at the credit union. [9:04] It was a lot of work. The CFO and others in the organization put in additional monitoring tools. That's what the ERM program does. It says, “Hey, we've got a potential issue or higher risk.” It's a call to action to ask, "What are we going to do differently to mitigate the risk?" [9:37] American Eagle's interest rate risk is still trending a little bit higher but it's under control and being monitored. The regulators gave them a great pass last year and are working on this year's audit. [10:12] When the American Eagle FCU ERM program was awarded the 2023 RIMS ERM Award of Distinction, regulators were thrilled. The board of directors was very happy to hear of it at a board meeting. The Risk Council Team was also thrilled and felt they were on the right track. [11:11] The award came at a good time for the ERM program. Since then, American Eagle has had a few new executive leaders. The ERM program team is educating the risk council on what ERM is and the nine risk categories, definitions, KRIs, and what they should keep or change. [12:43] American Eagle is getting to the point of putting new KRIs in place to see where they land with the risk ratings. They are asking if their risk tolerance or appetite should be increased. American Eagle FCU has been risk-averse. You can take calculated risks with an ERM program. [13:41] If the risk gets to be above your expectations, you can try to reel it back to a more manageable level. [14:04] American Eagle FCU is growing in its assets and also in its team members. The ERM program is adding a People Risk category to help create a culture that's engaging. The board of directors is excited to see what that will look like. [14:39] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On October 24th, Hub International returns for the fourth installment of their Ready for Tomorrow series, “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures”. [14:56] On October 31st, TÜV SÜD GRC discusses “Mastering Property Renewals: Strategies for Success in 2025 with Risk Engineering”. On November 4th, I will be hosting a special RIMS Webinar presentation, “Lessons from Veterans on Strategic Risk Leadership”. [15:17] On November 14th, Marsh will present “Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape”. On Thursday, December 12th, OneTrust returns to deliver “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring” [15:43] More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [15:55] There is another webinar you should know about. On October 22, 2024 at 1:00 p.m. ET. I will be moderating for my friends at ex judicata “If I Leave the Law — A Webcast Series: Landing a Nonlegal Job in Insurance Industry: Risk Management, Brokerage, Claims, & Advisory”. [16:20] Other panelists include leaders from Lockton, Berkshire Hathaway Specialty Insurance, and our friend from the RIMS Public Policy Committee and the RIMS Detroit Chapter, Lynn Haley Pilarski, who works at GM. The link is in this episode's show notes. [16:41] This is a complimentary webinar and it is a chance for you to invite your friends who are in the legal profession, looking to transition to another role, to check out risk management and see what it's all about. The link is in this episode's notes. [16:58] Back to My Interview with Chris Willey of American Eagle FCU! The nine risk categories of American Eagle's ERM program are credit risk, interest rate risk, liquidity risk, transaction risk, compliance risk, concentration risk, strategic risk, reputation risk, and cyber risk. [17:44] American Eagle FCU started with the seven NCUA risks, and as cybercrime became prevalent, they added a category for cyber risk. When NCUA sent a letter on concentration risk, American Eagle FCU added a category for concentration risk. The people risk is upcoming. [18:32] Now all risks are counted equally, but they may start looking at weighted averages. That is still TBD. [19:25] American Eagle FCU has from 335 to 350 team members. The credit union is state-charted in Connecticut. They have members in Massachusetts but no branches in that state. They have no plans to charter in other states. [20:35] American Eagle FCU is trying to manage everything with a balanced approach, taking on more risk than before, and moving toward the center of the risk spectrum. The initiatives of their strategic plan involve a certain amount of risk and it will be OK. [21:34] To start an ERM program from scratch in 2024 you need executive buy-in. The tone from the top is important. American Eagle FCU started at the management level and once it was running well, they brought the board of directors into it. [22:01] Chris explains how strategic initiatives, projects, budgets, finances, and reputation were KRI measures that were reported to the board twice a year. [22:52] Two of the three 2023 honorees of distinction, American Eagle FCU and Sterling Bank and Trust, are in the banking sector, which speaks to what ERM can do for banking. [23:21] With interest rates as they are, it's a good idea for a bank to have an ERM program to help navigate these times, whether interest rates are going up or down. Risk management is very basic to every financial institution, whether or not it is ERM. [24:36] Justin remembers that there was no risk manager at Silicon Valley Bank. RIMS believes that every organization, regardless of its size, should have a dedicated risk professional. Chris thought at the time there were going to be a lot of risk management positions opening up. [25:36] It is prudent to have a risk professional. They bring insight to your thinking that you may never have considered. The American Eagle FCU ERM program uses Key Risk Indicators. You want leading KRIs to pinpoint problems that are up and coming. Look forward, not back. [26:29] ERM can help the risk profession greatly. In the cyber area, everyone has data they need to protect. If you have an ERM program looking at some of the risks in the cyber area, you might be able to create a better environment and protect against all the threats out there. [27:08] Threats are not going to stop. They will continue to get worse. American Eagle ERM makes decisions based on its ERM program. They do business-level risk assessments to help business owners understand how to stay within their risk tolerance level. [27:51] ERM is language and knowledge from which every organization can benefit. [27:57] October is Cybersecurity Awareness Month. American Eagle FCU has participated in Cybersecurity Awareness Month for over a decade to educate team members on all kinds of cybersecurity issues and threats. [28:38] This year, the theme is Willy Wonka, with cyber security videos and activities for interactive learning. They issue their security training for the year for all team members. They also educate members with tips on social media, their newsletter, and their website. [29:45] American Eagle FCU is holding a fraud symposium for members. October at American Eagle FCU is a fun time. The CFO dresses as WIlly Wonka and the ERM team members are Oompa Loompas. They do short videos throughout the month about what's coming up. [31:41] Chris, it is wonderful to see you. I appreciate all your time and your wonderful insight. It speaks to the banking sector and the broader risk community. There's a lot that our listeners can learn from this episode. Congratulations again on the 2023 RIMS ERM Award of Distinction! [32:09] Special thanks again to Chris Willey of American Eagle FCU for joining us here on RIMScast! Check out the episode's show notes for more resources about cybersecurity and the 10 risks we discussed during the interview.  [32:24] More RIMS Plugs! The RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be held in Boston, Massachusetts on November 18th and 19th. Register today at RIMS.org/ERM2024! [32:40] The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [33:13] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [33:58] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [34:15] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [34:32] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [34:46] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [34:54] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be in Boston, MA Nov. 18‒19 | Register Now RIMS DEI Council RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App The Strategic and Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interview featuring Dan Elliott!  Submit Your Nomination for 2025 Risk Manager of the Year — Part I is due on Oct. 31! International Cybersecurity Awareness Month RIMS Webinars: “If I Leave the Law — A Webcast Series: Landing a Nonlegal Job in Insurance Industry: Risk Management, Brokerage, Claims, & Advisory” | Presented by ex judicata | Oct. 22, 2024 “From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures” | Sponsored by Hub International | Oct. 24, 2024 “Mastering Property Renewals: Strategies for Success in 2025 with Risk Engineering” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company | Oct. 31, 2024 “Lessons from Veterans on Strategic Risk Leadership” | Presented by RIMS | Nov. 4, 2024 “Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape” | Sponsored by Marsh | Nov. 14, 2024 “Staying Vigilant: 7 Practical Tips for Ongoing Third-Party Risk Monitoring” | Sponsored by OneTrust | Dec. 12, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA (Virtual) November 14‒15, 2024 | 9:00 am‒4:00 pm SGT — Register by Nov. 7. Applying and Integrating ERM | Dec 4‒5 Captives as an Alternate Risk Financing Technique | Dec. 17‒18 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Big Shifts with John Hagel, ERM Conference Keynote” “Applying ERM Theory with Elise Farnham” “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “RMIS Innovation with Archer” | Sponsored by Archer (New!) “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich (New!) “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyberrisk Outlook 2023” | Sponsored by Alliant “Chemical Industry: How To Succeed Amid Emerging Risks and a Challenging Market” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD “Insuring the Future of the Environment” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Insights into the Gig Economy and its Contractors” | Sponsored by Zurich “The Importance of Disaster Planning Relationships” | Sponsored by ServiceMaster   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Chris Willey, VP of Enterprise Risk Management at American Eagle Financial Credit Union The American Eagle FCU ERM top risk categories: Credit Risk Interest Rate Risk Liquidity Risk Transaction Risk Compliance Risk Concentration Risk Strategic Risk Reputation Risk Cyber Risk Coming soon: People Risk Social Shareables (Edited For Social Media Use): Our CFO and others in our organization put in additional monitoring tools. That's what the ERM Program does. It says, “Hey, we've got a potential issue or higher risk.” It's a call to action to ask, "What are we going to do differently to mitigate the risk?" — Chris Willey   It's hard to benchmark one ERM Program to the next. It's different, based on your risk tolerances and the way you run your business. — Chris Willey   If we want to grow, give back to the community, and do all the initiatives we would like to with our strategic plan, we are going to have to take more risk, and it's going to be OK. — Chris Willey   Threats are not going to stop. They are going to continue and get worse. We make decisions based on our ERM program. We do business-level risk assessments and get the business owners involved so they understand what their tolerance levels are. — Chris Willey

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Maryam Salmasi, the Fred H. Bossons Award Winner for 2024. They discuss Maryam's passion for ERM, her professional training in Iran, and her tips on studying for the CRM exam. She tells how being multilingual helps her in risk management. She reveals what winning the Fred H. Bossons Award 2024 meant to her. Maryam concludes with her hopes and next steps for her risk management career in Canada.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:15] About this episode. We are coming to you live from Vancouver at the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 and are featuring our very special guest, the Fred H. Bossons Award Winner for 2024, Maryam Salmasi. [:43] The RIMS ERM Conference will be held on November 18th and 19th. Keynote John Hagel recently appeared here on RIMScast. The full agenda is live. [:53] We will talk about everything from RMIS and AI to D&O, ESG, the SEC, and various other acronyms, in addition to future casting and risk quantification. Register at RIMS.org/ERM2024. [1:05] RIMS-CRMP holders can earn recertification points by attending the RIMS ERM Conference 2024! For those interested in studying for the exam, a pre-conference workshop will be held on-site on November 16th and 17th. Register now; a link is on this page! [1:28] The next RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep will be held with Purima virtually on November 14th and 15th. [1:36] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. Links to these courses can be found on the Certifications page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:51] RIMS Virtual Workshops! Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. On December 4th and 5th, she will host Applying and Integrating ERM. Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar, RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [2:16] Interview! This episode is recorded live on-site at the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 in Vancouver. It's a beautiful city and everyone is having a fantastic time! [2:29] The RIMS Canada Council and Planning Committee outdoes themselves every year with the networking opportunities and educational offerings! One of the highlights of the RIMS Canada Conference was the Fred H. Bossons Award. [2:42] The Fred H. Bossons Award honors the risk management professional who earns the highest average mark on the three examinations required to attain the Canadian Risk Management designation (CRM). This year's winner is ERM consultant Maryam Salmasi. [2:56] Maryam has such a fantastic story and unique background. I wanted to capture her perspective and share it all with the RIMScast audience! [3:03] We're going to learn about what it was like for her to be an emerging risk professional in Iran, what her experience has been here in Vancouver, and what it took for her to study for, pass, and eventually make the grade! [3:18] Maryam Salmasi, this year's winner of the Fred H. Bossons Award, welcome to RIMScast!  [3:58] Maryam is an enterprise risk management consultant at Stage Meta in Canada. She is also working with the Burnaby Board of Trade in Vancouver, with incredible people. [4:20] Maryam has been in ERM for about eight years. Risk management helps control uncertainty. Maryam is passionate about helping businesses to grow and make the best of themselves. [4:39] Maryam chose to concentrate on risk management to help businesses understand their risks and address them, mitigate them, and have better paths for growth. [5:06] Maryam started her career in Iran. She is a newcomer to Canada. In Iran, she worked as a risk manager for an insurance company, insurance agencies, and a brokerage. [5:31] Maryam worked in the insurance industry for about 19 years, in underwriting, claims, and customer-facing roles for about three years. She worked in organizational development, ERM, organizational excellence, quality, and process management, as a manager and specialist.  [6:13] Maryam was also involved in designing new insurance products and executing actuarial calculations, package design, and insurance acquisitions. [6:43] Maryam says that organizations share similarities in all the world. They each have structure, risk strategies, and financial, operational, and hazard risks. The environments are different but the concepts are the same. [7:19] Maryam says that in Iran, more than 50% of insurance industry employees are women who work hard and thrive in different positions but not many of them are managers or directors. [8:16] Maryam was part of a supportive risk management networking group that was mostly women. [8:48] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On October 17th, Resolver will discuss The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader. [9:00] On October 24th, Hub International returns for the fourth installment of their Ready for Tomorrow series, From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures. [9:13] On October 31st, TÜV SÜD GRC discusses Mastering Property Renewals: Strategies for Success in 2025 with Risk Engineering. On November 4th, I will be hosting a special RIMS Webinar presentation, Lessons from Veterans on Strategic Risk Leadership. [9:43] On November 14th, Marsh will present Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape. More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [10:02] There is another webinar you should know about. On October 22, 2024 at 1:00 p.m.ET. I will be moderating for my friends at ex judicata If I Leave the Law — A Webcast Series: Landing a Nonlegal Job in Insurance Industry: Risk Management, Brokerage, Claims, & Advisory. [10:28] Other panelists include leaders from Lockton, Berkshire Hathaway Specialty Insurance, and our friend from the RIMS Public Policy Committee and the RIMS Detroit Chapter, Lynn Haley Pilarski, who works at GM. [10:45] This is a complimentary webinar and it is a chance for you to invite your friends who are in the legal profession, looking to transition to another role, to check out risk management and see what it's all about. The link is in this episode's notes. [11:05] Back to My Interview with the 2024 Fred H. Bossons Award Winner, Maryam Salmasi! Maryam studied for the CRM exam online at the Insurance Institute at her own pace while she was searching for a full-time job as she worked as a risk management consultant. [12:21] Maryam's study method is to take detailed notes and create summaries and summaries of summaries, to review and compare the points. She says there are similar concepts across CRM and risk management materials and her notes help her locate and review concepts. [12:55] That review gave her a better understanding of the concepts than trying to memorize them. Her notes were very helpful for her. [13:13] Maryam finished the risk management courses and the examinations in two semesters. In the first semester, she took two exams. In the second semester, she studied for and took the third exam. [13:53] Maryam was not taking the examinations to win an award but to acquire the CRM certification. When she found out she had won the 2024 Fred H. Bossons Award, at first she was surprised. It's great that someone recognized her passion as she did what she truly enjoyed. [14:38] Maryam is grateful to be recognized for her passion for risk management and the insurance industry. She enjoyed being on stage and receiving the trophy for the award. It's precious to her. [15:01] Maryam speaks Persian, English, and some Italian. Knowing English helped Maryam in her risk management career. She also found a few risk books translated into Persian from English. She follows some Italian insurance companies' social media accounts in Italian. [15:44] Maryam feels that knowing other languages and cultures is like having two or three souls. It's wonderful to know them, but for insurance and risk management, she says that English is the best language. [16:24] Maryam has found great opportunities to network and meet incredible people with great backgrounds and knowledge of risk management, most of them in the insurance industry, at the RIMS Canada Conference 2024. Maryam is grateful to be there. [16:52] Maryam's tip for studying for the CRM examinations is to make notes and summaries. You have to pass both Institute courses and exams separately. That's a total of six exams. Once you achieve passing grades in both courses and the exams, you will receive the designation. [17:29] Maryam scheduled two exams on the same day, which kept her fresh and focused on the material, which she thought was good, although she was tired at the end of the day. [17:58] Maryam's next step is to learn more and to get the CRMP certification. She is still in search of her ideal long-term position. She hopes this certification will help her to gain more success! Justin believes the Fred H. Bossons Award will elevate Maryam's professional profile. [18:49] I want to thank you so much! It was such a pleasure to meet you and I feel fortunate to sit down with you the day after you won an award. Congratulations again and I wish you continued success! [19:07] Special thanks again to 2024 Fred H. Bossons Award winner Maryam Salmasi for joining me here on RIMScast live, in person! We had a great time here at the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 in Vancouver. [19:20] I look forward to seeing you all at the RIMS Canada Conference 2025 in Calgary, September 14th through the 17th. [19:27] And special thanks and congratulations to all the members of the RIMS Canada Council, the RIMS Canada Conference Planning Committee, and the RIMS Events staff for producing one of the most memorable RIMS Canada Conferences I've attended. I hope you get some sleep! [19:46] Register today for the RIMS ERM Conference 2024, to be held November 18th and 19th in Boston, Massachusetts! Visit RIMS.org/ERM2024 to register. [20:04] More RIMS Plugs! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [20:37] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [21:19] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [21:36] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [21:51] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [22:05] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [22:12] Thank you all for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be in Boston, MA Nov. 18–19 | Register Now RIMS DEI Council RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App RIMS Canada News Release: RIMS Ontario Chapter Honours Valerie Fox with the 2024 Donald M. Stuart Award Follow RIMS Canada on LinkedIn The Strategic and Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interviews featuring Dan Elliott! The CRM designation provides risk professionals with a foundation of knowledge and skills needed to identify, assess, monitor, and limit risks. The award is recognized by RIMS and awarded by GRMI.   RIMS Webinars: The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader | Sponsored by Resolver | Oct. 17, 2024 “If I Leave the Law – A Webcast Series: Landing a Nonlegal Job in Insurance Industry: Risk Management, Brokerage, Claims, & Advisory”  Presented by ex judicata | Oct. 22, 2024 From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures | Sponsored by Hub International | Oct. 24, 2024 Mastering Property Renewals: Strategies for Success in 2025 with Risk Engineering | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company | Oct. 31, 2024 Lessons from Veterans on Strategic Risk Leadership | Presented by RIMS | Nov. 4, 2024 Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape | Sponsored by Marsh | Nov. 14, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep with PARIMA (Virtual) November 14–15, 2024 | 9:00 am–4:00 pm SGT — Register by Nov. 7 Applying and Integrating ERM | Dec 4‒5 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Big Shifts with John Hagel, ERM Conference Keynote” “Applying ERM Theory with Elise Farnham” “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw”   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich (New!) “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | (New!) “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyberrisk Outlook 2023” | Sponsored by Alliant “Chemical Industry: How To Succeed Amid Emerging Risks and a Challenging Market” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD “Insuring the Future of the Environment” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Insights into the Gig Economy and its Contractors” | Sponsored by Zurich “The Importance of Disaster Planning Relationships” | Sponsored by ServiceMaster   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Maryam Salmasi, ERM Consultant at Stage Meta, Fred H. Bossons Award Winner 2024 Social Shareables (Edited For Social Media Use): Risk management controls uncertainty. Because I am passionate about helping businesses to grow and to make the best of themselves, I chose to concentrate on risk management to help them understand their risk. — Maryam Salmasi   It's very important to have Canadian certification to show that you know this concept. My only intention was to pass the exam. It's great that someone recognized my passion for risk management because I did what I truly enjoyed. — Maryam Salmasi   When you know other languages or cultures it's like you have this second or third soul. It's pretty wonderful to know other languages or cultures but for insurance or risk management, English is the best language. — Maryam Salmasi   I found great opportunities to network and meet incredible people with great backgrounds and knowledge of risk management, most of them in the insurance industry, at the RIMS Canada Conference 2024. I am grateful to be here. — Maryam Salmasi  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews John Hagel, RIMS ERM Conference Keynote. John's keynote on November 18 will be titled Embracing Change to Manage Risk. Justin and John explore how risk has evolved over John's 40-year career and the last decade, and aligning risk management with technological innovation. John shares his thoughts on the RIMS Risk Maturity Model and a hint of what to expect in his November 18th keynote address at the RIMS ERM Conference 2024 in Boston. John concludes with his observation of positive trends in risk management.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:15] About this episode. Our topic is ERM and our guest is John Hagel, who will be the opening keynote at the RIMS ERM Conference 2024 in Boston on November 18th and 19th. [:46] RIMS ERM Conference! The full agenda is live. We will talk about everything from RMIS and AI to D&O, ESG, the SEC, and various other acronyms, in addition to future casting and risk quantification. RIMS.org/ERM2024. [1:05] RIMS-CRMP holders can earn recertification points by attending the RIMS ERM Conference 2024! For those interested in studying for the exam, a pre-conference workshop will be held on-site on November 16th and 17th. Register now; a link is on this page! [1:28] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. Links to these courses can be found on the Certifications page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:44] RIMS Virtual Workshops! On October 9th and 10th, Chris Hansen returns to deliver Fundamentals of Insurance. He's very popular in the Worker's Comp space. [1:59] Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. On December 4th and 5th, she will host Applying and Integrating ERM. Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar of RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [2:20] Interview! I am so excited to present an interview with our guest today, John Hagel! He will deliver the opening keynote address at the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. It's titled Embracing Change to Manage Risk. [2:37] John is a visionary with more than 40 years of experience as a management consultant, entrepreneur, and thought leader in Silicon Valley. He will kick off our conference, exploring how technological innovation is transforming the global economy, society, and the risk landscape. [2:55] John will also explore how these concepts will influence and intersect with three critical risk tenets: strategy alignment, culture and accountability, and risk capabilities. There's so much to discuss. Let's get to it! [3:09] John Hagel, welcome to RIMScast! John joins a long line of impactful keynote speakers for the RIMS ERM Conference. He is excited about it! [3:54] John was drawn to Silicon Valley decades ago because of the sense of optimism and the energy around addressing opportunities in the future and also because it's the seedbed of some amazing digital technology. [4:17] John founded a couple of tech startups. He was a senior executive with Atari in the video game business from 1982 to 1984, a partner at McKinsey & Company, helping found their Silicon Valley office, and led a research center at Deloitte, called the Center for the Edge. [5:20] Atari provided an opportunity for young people to get into digital technology. [6:09] John talks about the risks in technology over the years. Digital technology is improving exponentially over time. What's competitive today becomes obsolete a couple of days from now or years from now. [6:27] John has done a lot of work around what he calls the big shift, or the long-term forces that are redefining the global economy and society. On one side, the big shift creates mounting performance pressure, the competition intensifies and the pace of change accelerates. [6:46] A small event in a faraway place quickly becomes a globally disruptive event. There's a lot of risk from the mounting performance pressure. One of the consequences of all this is that it increases the risk of the status quo. Doing what you've done before becomes more risky. [7:24] At the same time, the big shift is creating exponentially expanding opportunity, with far more value at far less resource, far more quickly. It decreases the risk of creating exponential value. [8:14] John believes the most disruptive trend over the past years has been customers becoming more powerful with access to more information. They use that information to find someone much more effective at addressing their needs. They're becoming less trusting. [8:44] John sees trust eroding in large institutions around the world. That's disruptive, as large institutions want and need trust but they're losing it. This is business-to-business trust. It is being lost because of the spreading emotion of fear. [10:35] In Silicon Valley, John had the opportunity to work with some of the most successful technology companies. He found that they have a different approach to strategy than most traditional organizations. John is a strong proponent of the value of this approach. [10:56] This different approach is called Zoom Out-Zoom In. Zoom out 10 to 20 years; what's the really big opportunity we could be pursuing? Zoom in; what can we do in the next six to 12  months to help us accelerate our movement toward that opportunity? [11:25] Companies that pursue the Zoom In-Zoom-Out strategy focus on the risk of not acting. They move forward but don't try to do massive 10-year projects. They do something in the next six months that can help them learn faster what's required to achieve the opportunity at low risk. [12:16] Plug Time! RIMS Webinars! On October 10th, Zurich returns to present Long-Term Property Strategies for a Resilient Future. On October 17th, Resolver will discuss The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader. [12:36] On October 24th, Hub International returns for the fourth installment of their Ready for Tomorrow series, From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures. [12:50] On October 31st, TÜV SÜD GRC discusses Mastering Property Renewals: Strategies for Success in 2025 with Risk Engineering. On November 4th, I will be hosting a special RIMS Webinar presentation, Lessons from Veterans on Strategic Risk Leadership. [13:20] On November 14th, Marsh will present Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape. More webinars will be announced soon and added to the RIMS.org/webinars page. Go there to register. Registration is complimentary for RIMS members. [13:38] There is another webinar you should know about. On October 22, 2024 at 1:00 p.m.ET. I will be moderating for my friends at ex judicata If I Leave the Law — A Webcast Series: Landing a Nonlegal Job in Insurance Industry: Risk Management, Brokerage, Claims, & Advisory. [14:04] Other panelists include leaders from Lockton, Berkshire Hathaway Specialty Insurance, and our friend from the RIMS Public Policy Committee and the RIMS Detroit Chapter, Lynn Haley Pilarski, who works at GM. [14:24] This is a complimentary webinar and it is a chance for you to invite your friends who are in the legal profession, looking to transition to another role, to check out risk management and see what it's all about. The link is on this page. [14:43] The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal is to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals. That is achieved, in part, by a collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [13:57] Whether you want to apply for a grant, participate in the Risk Manager on Campus program, or just learn more about Spencer, visit SpencerEd.org. [15:08] On that note, applications are being accepted for internship grants. Since 1999, Spencer has awarded over $2.7 million in internship grants to over 540 recipients. To be eligible, risk managers must be based in the United States, Canada, or Bermuda. [15:26] The application deadline is October 15th, 2024. Awardees are typically notified at the beginning of December. A link to the Internship Grants page is in this episode's show notes. [15:40] Back to My Interview with RIMS ERM Conference 2024 Keynote Speaker, John Hagel! John loves Boston. He loves the combination of incredible history and all the universities there. It's got a youthful culture; the combination of age and youth makes it interesting. [16:38] For six years, John lived in Boston. For four of those years, he was in a graduate program for both an MBA and a JD from Harvard. He was recruited by Boston Consulting Group to be a consultant and spent two years there. He just didn't like the cold winters and hot summers. [17:30] Justin describes the emergence of the RIMS Risk Maturity Model. It serves as a template or guide for how effective ERM can be run. A link to it is on this page. John took the model. It was challenging for him as a solo practitioner; it was hard to apply five pillars to an individual. [18:15] John found the five pillars and the different levels of maturity enlightening. The model shows the complexity of ERM. It's not just one pillar and one stage. In terms of maturity, it's a set of stages. John particularly likes the emphasis on continuous cycles of improvement. [19:05] John also liked that at the highest level, the focus was future-oriented decision-making, encouraging and helping people to look ahead to future opportunities and risks. The model helps leaders to see that ERM is a continuously improving cycle. [19:48] No matter how good an ERM program is at any time, there is more to come. John likes the focus on the future and the emphasis on continuous learning. We must learn constantly and never assume we're experts with all the answers. There are more questions that need answers. [20:15] The five pillars John mentioned are Strategy Alignment, Culture & Accountability, Risk Management Capabilities, Risk Governance, and Analytics. [20:44] John's opening keynote address will cover his research on how the world is changing and the implications for risk management, the big shift with mounting performance pressures as a key factor. He will discuss the new approach to strategy as old approaches are challenged. [21:24] We need to step back and reflect on what strategy is going to help us manage risk more effectively. We're in a time when fundamental transformation is essential. He will talk about the role of AI in ERM as a catalyst for change. [22:08] John will focus on three pillars of the RIMS Risk Maturity Model: Strategy Alignment, Culture & Accountability, and Risk Management Capabilities and how to address them in the rapidly changing world. John will have no visuals. He encourages audience interaction. [23:14] Justin emphasizes there will be some Q&A time at the end of the session, and that people should take notes during the address. Please come prepared with questions that can enhance the audience's knowledge. [24:09] John warns against underestimating the risk of continuing as you are and focusing just on the present. Look into the future to see how risks may be changing over time. In addition to internal risks, look for ways to reduce the risks to your stakeholders, customers, and suppliers. [25:00] John sees a positive trend of understanding that as the world is changing, more opportunity is emerging. Explore the opportunity. Understanding how technological innovation transforms our opportunities and risks becomes critical. [25:26] John, we look forward to seeing you on the morning of November 18th in Boston, kicking off our RIMS ERM Conference 2024. You're going to explain how to embrace change through innovation and the psychology of change. Anyone in risk management will take away a lot! [26:00] We thank you in advance for being a fantastic keynote! [26:07] Special thanks to John Hagel for joining us! He will be the opening keynote speaker on November 18th at the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. A link to his website is on this page. [26:23] Register now for the RIMS ERM Conference 2024, to be held November 18th and 19th in Boston, Massachusetts! Visit RIMS.org/ERM2024 to register. [26:36] It's RIMS Plug Time! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [27:11] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [27:56] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [28:14] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [28:30] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [28:45] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [28:52] Thank you for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be in Boston, MA Nov. 18‒19 | Register Now RIMS DEI Council RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App Spencer Internship Grants — Deadline Oct. 15 The Strategic and Enterprise Risk Center RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interviews featuring DFW RIMS President Emily Casso Ford! JohnHagel.com   RIMS Webinars: Long-Term Property Strategies for a Resilient Future | Sponsored by Zurich | Oct. 10, 2024 The Future of Risk & Compliance: 5 Key Insights for the Modern Leader | Sponsored by Resolver | Oct. 17, 2024 If I Leave the Law — A Webcast Series: Landing a Nonlegal Job in Insurance Industry: Risk Management, Brokerage, Claims, & Advisory | Presented by ex judicata | Oct. 22, 2024 From AI to the SEC: The Future of D&O Litigation and Regulatory Exposures | Sponsored by Hub International | Oct. 24, 2024 Mastering Property Renewals: Strategies for Success in 2025 with Risk Engineering | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company | Oct. 31, 2024 Lessons from Veterans on Strategic Risk Leadership | Presented by RIMS | Nov. 4, 2024 Risk Perception and Management: Insights for a Changing Landscape | Sponsored by Marsh | Nov. 14, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: Fundamentals of Insurance | Oct 9‒10, 2024 Applying and Integrating ERM | Dec 4‒5 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: “Applying ERM Theory with Elise Farnham” “Maintaining an Award-Winning ERM Program with Michael Zuraw” “Bigger Risks with the Texas State Office of Risk Management” | Sponsored By Hillwood   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Navigating Commercial Property Risks with Captives” | Sponsored by Zurich (New!) “Breaking Down Silos: AXA XL's New Approach to Casualty Insurance” | (New!) “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyberrisk Outlook 2023” | Sponsored by Alliant “Chemical Industry: How To Succeed Amid Emerging Risks and a Challenging Market” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD “Insuring the Future of the Environment” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Insights into the Gig Economy and its Contractors” | Sponsored by Zurich “The Importance of Disaster Planning Relationships” | Sponsored by ServiceMaster   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RISK PAC | RIMS Advocacy   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org, and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: John Hagel, Silicon Valley Veteran, Entrepreneur, and Founder of Beyond Our Edge, LLC John Hagel on LinkedIn Social Shareables (Edited For Social Media Use): Digital technology is exponentially improving over time. What's competitive today becomes obsolete a couple of days from now or a couple of years from now. — John Hagel   There's a lot of risk from the mounting performance pressure. One of the consequences of all this is that it increases the risk of the status quo. Doing what you've done before becomes more and more risky  — John Hagel   I did find the RIMS Risk Maturity Model enlightening in terms of the five pillars that come into it and the different levels of maturity, helping people to see that this is complex. It's not just one pillar and one stage. — John Hagel   Don't underestimate the risk of continuing as you are and focusing on the present. Look to the future to see how risks may be changing. In addition to internal organizational risks, look for ways to reduce the risks to your stakeholders, customers, and suppliers. — John Hagel  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Britt Embry, VP of Communications, RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter; Nancy Brooks, Executive Director of NAMI Louisville; and Tony Quinones, Director of Risk Strategies and Compliance of Walt Disney World® Resort and Disney Cruise Line. Britt discusses the Greater Bluegrass RIMS Chapter's Power of Partnership Conference, on October 8th and 9th. Nancy shares an overview of her keynote speech on mental health and risk management for the conference. Then Tony describes his career and how he used continual learning to expand his career from claims to risk strategies and compliance, with a side of mentorship. Get ready for some excellent tips on partnership, mental health, and risk, and developing your risk management career.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:15] About this episode. We have three guests; one from the Greater Bluegrass Chapter of RIMS, one from the National Alliance on Mental Illness, and last, but not least, Tony Quinones, Director for Risk Strategies and Compliance at Walt Disney World® Resort and Disney Cruise Line. [:48] RIMS Events! We are less than a week away from the start of one of my favorite events, the RIMS Canada Conference 2024, which will be from October 6th through the 9th in Vancouver. Register at RIMSCanadaConference.ca. [1:05] We want you to join us in Boston, Massachusetts on November 18th and 19th for the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. The full agenda is live. It runs the gamut of ERM. Check it out and register. A link is on this page! RIMS.org/ERM2024. [1:21] All RIMS Regional Conference Information can be found through the Events page of RIMS.org. [1:26] RIMS Virtual Offerings! The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Course will be hosted along with George Mason University from December 3rd through the 5th. Links to these courses can be found on the Certification Page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:44] RIMS Virtual Workshops! On October 9th and 10th, Chris Hansen returns to deliver Fundamentals of Insurance. He's very popular in the Worker's Comp space. [1:59] Elise Farnham of Illumine Consulting recently joined us here on RIMScast. This is the last call for her session on October 3rd and 4th, Fundamentals of Risk Management. Other dates for Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops calendar of RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [2:19] RIMS Webinars! Also, be sure to check out the full schedule of RIMS webinars at RIMS.org/webinars. Remember, registration is free for all RIMS members, one of the many value-adds for a RIMS membership. [2:36] Interviews! We will kick off this episode of RIMScast with two guests. Britt Embry is the VP of Communications for the RIMS Greater Bluegrass Chapter. They have a two-day event on October 8th and 9th in Louisville, Kentucky, The Power of Partnership. [2:57] Registration is supposed to close today, October 1st, but as you'll hear in the interview, you may still be able to register past today, if you play your cards right! [3:08] We will also be joined by one of the speakers presenting on October 9th, Nancy Brooks, the Executive Director of NAMI Louisville. We'll get a brief preview of her session on mental health in risk management, and how mental health awareness is evolving in the risk space. [3:29] Britt Embry and Nancy Brooks, welcome to RIMScast! [3:38] Britt, let me congratulate you for winning the Chapter of the Year award at RISKWORLD 2024! Britt says the RIMS Greater Louisville Chapter went full steam; it's a new chapter, the 80th RIMS chapter! They got much excitement from the risk management and insurance community! [4:21] It paid off! Britt is very appreciative of all the sponsors, vendors, and participants in the Power of Partnership Conference. Britt says it was a lot of hard work but the chapter is very excited to receive the Chapter of the Year Award. [4:37] The RIMS Greater Louisville Chapter is growing like weeds! They are close to 100 members with the chapter and RIMS nationally. They're pushing through to make a difference! [5:04] The chapter is about two-and-a-half years old. They're excited to support risk management and insurance throughout the state of Kentucky and some of Indiana, as well. [5:30] This episode comes out on October 1st. That's one week before the opening of the Power of Partnership. Today is the last day for registration. If you want an exception after today, please email the chapter at GreaterBluegrassofRIMS@gmail.com. The link is on this page. [6:22] Nancy Brooks is here because she will be one of the marquee speakers at the Power of Partnership event. Nancy says as we assess the risk, including the safety and well-being of an individual, it results in us understanding how mental health impacts everything we do. [6:56] Nancy will highlight that in her presentation and focus on mental health in risk management and how the potential to reduce insurance rates and provide more benefits for employees impacts their mental well-being as well. [7:38] One of NAMI's messages is “You are not alone.” NAMI recognizes that the mental health journey is complicated. It's not the same as someone who comes down with a diagnosis that's more “acceptable.” With mental illness, there's a tendency to hide, so they need a trusted ally. [8:10] NAMI supports families and individuals who are affected by mental illness. [8:30] In her keynote, Nancy will include a discussion on general mental well-being and share tools for self-care that everyone can use. She will note some signs and symptoms to help individuals identify in their workplace that someone's struggling with a mental health condition. [8:56] These signs and symptoms can also show up in our loved ones and inner circle. It helps to know those signs and symptoms and reduce the stigma, reducing barriers to communication. [9:18] Nancy will focus on how mental health relates to risk management, employees, and injured workers. [9:39] Britt says registration is open to all risk professionals. You pay a little extra if you are not a chapter member. They would love to have you as a member and get your insight into the organization, as well.  [10:04] Greater Bluegrass is connecting all the various types of risk management and insurance that they see in the state of Kentucky, from distilleries to healthcare, to restaurants, and everything in between. To have everyone's insight and knowledge is amazing! [10:35] NAMI Louisville is very experienced in doing workplace training through its Stigma-Free Workplace Partnerships. Any business that comes to the event can ask to have NAMI Louisville send someone to their workplace for different types of training, including suicide prevention. [11:04] The Power of Partnership will be on October 8th and 9th in Louisville, Kentucky. Britt and Nancy will be there. There are links in this episode's show notes for anyone who wants to and should attend. Britt and Nancy, I want to thank you both. It sounds like it will be fabulous! [11:24] Marquee Interview! I am joined by Tony Quinones, the Director for Risk Strategies and Compliance at Walt Disney World® Resort and Disney Cruise Line. Tony, welcome to RIMScast! [12:01] At Walt Disney World® Resort and Disney Cruise Line, it's always booking season and vacation season. Now it's the beginning of the holiday season. [12:17] Out of college and for most of his career, Tony worked in claims. He started in liability with State Farm Insurance. He hadn't studied insurance in college but he was attracted by a job posting. He meant to work for a time, then go back to school to be a history teacher. [12:50] Twenty-two years later, here he is, talking to Justin about his career and his current role in risk management. Tony says he's had a good time and the profession has been good to him. [13:20] His claims background knowledge helps him handle challenges in his risk management role. He worked in claims until three years ago when he formally transitioned to risk strategies and compliance. He always took opportunities to expand his knowledge of risk management. [14:17] Disney Cruise Line feels like a floating resort. Tony has a set of responsibilities around compliance training and data analytics. The analytics teams support safety, operations, and claims partners. [14:54] The environmental, safety, and operations teams address the risks inherent to the Maritime laws, and regulations in the U.S. and internationally. Tony's analytics teams work with them in every aspect to support them with the best information possible to do their roles. [15:43] A cruise ship is a floating city. Tony doesn't oversee the waste management but he says the machinery is amazing. They are conscientious to do the best they can for the environment.  [16:08] Tony has a staff of approximately 70 cast members under his supervision. Any that have responsibilities strictly on the ships are crew members. The Risk Management Division has about 150 members in partnership with the areas of safety, environmental, and operations. [17:14] It's a well-oiled machine of information and partnership back and forth, with some of the strongest protocols and audits to help make sure it's one of the safest environments for crew, cast, and guests. [17:33] The Walt Disney World® Resort and Disney Cruise Line ERM program is overseen at the corporate level. Tony's team supports the ERM initiatives with their day-to-day operations. [18:01] Tony thinks it's important to work in unison with the corporate side. There is risk management alignment across the company. [18:37] About dealing with catastrophes, Tony says having a contingency plan is great but make sure that it's flexible for the situation at hand. Have robust communication systems. Know which partners you need to reach out to for certain situations and communications. [19:02] You need to have the right roles in the room and at the table so that decisions can be made and communication can be spread out effectively and efficiently. There aren't catastrophes happening all the time but have continuous training and be aware of the what-ifs. [19:26] You might not be ready for a specific incident but the memory of going through the action plan and reacting will apply to most incidents and having those three things puts you into a situation where you are ready for the unexpected and to respond effectively and efficiently. [20:01] How do storms affect Disney Cruise Line? Everyone goes through practices and knows what they are doing. They walk through the contingency plans and action plans to solidify them in muscle memory. [20:57] Tony recounts the rebound after the pandemic. Having key partnerships with the operations partners across the company was key. As Walt Disney World® Resort and Disney Cruise Lines re-opened slowly and surely, they saw their guests come back to resume normalcy. [21:59] Tony says risk management was impacted by the pandemic but they still had work to do. At that time, he was still on the claims side. While the resort and cruise line were closed, they built for what they knew would come back. Claims built up slowly with attendance. [22:38] Once the hiccup of the pandemic was over, Tony says they were in a good place to be there for their guests and cast members, for worker's comp. [23:10] Tony recalls how the resorts reopened, a park or a resort at a time. Some services weren't available right at the time of the park opening. Some new experiences were added, like mobile check-in and self-check-in. They explored technology during the interruption. [24:35] Tony takes opportunities to walk the parks and the ships to see the conditions of the properties in case something comes up in a report. He wants to make sure that what he is offering his partners is what they need. [25:44] Whenever Disney gets in the news, Tony checks to see what is the context. He is confident in what Disney does and why they do it. [26:14] Quick Break! The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal is to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals. That is achieved, in part, by a collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [26:31] Whether you want to apply for a grant, participate in the Risk Manager on Campus program, or just learn more about Spencer, visit SpencerEd.org. [25:42] On that note, applications are being accepted for internship grants. The application deadline is October 15th, 2024. Awardees are typically notified at the beginning of December. A link to the Internship Grants page is in this episode's show notes. [27:02] We Conclude My Interview with Tony Quinones of Disney!  [27:15] Through October 15th, we are in National Hispanic Heritage Month. At Disney, there are cast-run burgs. Tony belongs to the Latin American Burg. He also does anything he can within the RISKWORLD diversity platforms and to be part of the Hispanic heritage within the industry. [28:23] Latin American professionals need to take advantage of the opportunities in risk management in general, and insurance. There are not a lot of Hispanic or Latino Americans in the industry but there are a lot of opportunities, maybe more than when he started. [28:47] There's still a way to go. There are so many specialties within risk management. It's not just a risk manager. There's insurance and so many different areas of risk. Tony wants Latinos to find a niche where their talents can grow. Maybe risk management is meant for you. [29:29] Many colleges are offering a risk management program. If you're a young Latino going into college, Tony invites you to consider risk management as an avenue for your education. [29:49] Tony is bilingual and that has served him in his career. He needed it almost daily when he was handling claims. Tony suggests that whatever other language you speak, double down on it and use it to your advantage. [30:30] Tony is on the RISKWORLD ACPC, the Annual Conference Planning Committee. They are planning RISKWORLD 2025 in Chicago. He recalls the great program and breakout sessions of RISKWORLD 2024 in San Diego. Put RISKWORLD on your bucket list! It's a great opportunity! [32:06] Tony relates the RISKWORLD DE&I Studio to the evolution of the risk profession overall. It speaks to the younger generation in risk management, just entering the workforce. The DE&I Studio was exciting and attracted many people who wanted to know more about DE&I. [33:03] The DE&I Studio is a place where different communities are immediately acknowledged and included. Tony hopes it continues to grow as they continue to put the RISKWORLD conferences together. [33:36] Any chance Tony gets, not just with the Latin American community, but in general, with the younger workforce coming into risk management, to mentor, he does it. He is involved with mentorship at Disney, called Mano a Mano, which is focused on mentoring the Latin community. [34:02] Tony is also part of Rise Professional, a mentorship program helping those just coming into the risk management profession. Anytime he can share his knowledge and experience to contribute the most, such as being on a platform like RIMScast, he will do it. [34:34] Tony thinks the most important thing for anyone who has been in the industry is to give mentorship. That's the way to give back, one-on-one with professionals entering the industry. It's the most value for your time. [35:16] Tony's advice to people entering or considering entering the risk profession is that it can provide a consistent and stable platform, similar to other traditional professions. If you're a professional looking to transition, this is a great industry. [35:46] If you're in college trying to figure out your future, take a couple of risk management courses. Look at the programs colleges have for it. Tony's great 20-plus-year career started in one little avenue of risk management. He's learned something new every year. [36:13] It's an industry that can take you to so many different places and you'll never be bored. [36:39] Tony is a big Disney fan. He has been on a couple of Disney cruises on vacation, and he loves it. Once in a while, he just wants to go to a beach somewhere and take a little different vacation so he doesn't have to worry about work. The brand is still there on a Disney Cruise. [37:19] Tony, it has been a real pleasure to meet you. Thank you for being a member of our RIMS RISKWORLD ACPC. We hope to connect at RISKWORLD 2025 in Chicago Illinois, celebrating RIMS's 75th Anniversary! We appreciate your leadership there. Thanks for joining us! [37:45] Special thanks to Tony Quinones for all of his time and insight! Special thanks to Nancy Brooks of NAMI Louisville and Britt Embry of the Greater Bluegrass Chapter of RIMS! [37:59] This is the last call for registration for the Power of Partnership Event on October 8th and 9th in Lousiville, Kentucky, hosted by the Greater Louisville Chapter of RIMS! [38:09] Email GreaterBluegrassofRIMS@gmail.com to register and be sure to tell them that you heard about the opportunity here, on RIMScast! More links about the event are in this episode's show notes. [38:24] It's RIMS Plug Time! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [38:57] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [39:40] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [39:57] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [40:13] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. [40:27] Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [40:34] Thank you for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! 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Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin Smulison interviews National Safety Council CEO Lorraine Martin about National Preparedness Month, a new OSHA proposed statement on workplace safety in extreme heat, National Recovery Month, drug overdose deaths at work, and some related topics. Lorraine also invites you to the NSC Safety Congress & Expo from September 13th through the 19th. Listen for information and insight from NSC CEO, Lorraine Martin.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:14] About this episode. Justin introduces return guest National Safety Council President and CEO Lorraine Martin. She will tell us what's going on with safety and preparedness in the U.S. and the world. [:44] Virtual Workshops! Applying and Integrating ERM is back and it will be hosted by Elise Farnham on September 25th and 26th and also on December 4th and 5th. [:58] On October 9th and 10th, Chris Hansen returns to deliver Fundamentals of Insurance. Other dates for the Fall and the Winter are available on the virtual workshops calendar at RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [1:16] RIMS-CRMP Prep Courses! On September 10th and 11th, the RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep will be held with NAIT. There is another RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep on September 12th and 13th. [1:31] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Prep course will be hosted along with George Mason University on December 3rd through 5th, 2024. Links to these courses can be found on the Certification Page of RIMS.org and in this episode's show notes. [1:46] Events! We've got the DFW RIMS 2024 Fall Conference and Spa Event happening on September 19th in Irving, Texas. Learn more about that event in Episode 299, which features an interview with the Texas State Office of Risk Management. [2:04] Also on September 19th is the RIMS Chicago Chapter's Chicagoland Risk Forum 2024. Register at ChicagolandRiskForum.org. [2:13] Registration opened for the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 which will be held from October 6th through the 9th in Vancouver. Visit RIMSCanadaConference.ca to register. [2:26] Registration is also open for the RIMS Western Regional, which will be held from September 29th through October 1st at the Sun River Resort in Oregon. Register at RIMSWesternRegional.com. [2:39] We want you to join us in Boston on November 18th and 19th for the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. The agenda is live. The keynote will be announced soon. We want to see you there! A link is on this page. [2:55] The nominations are now open for the RIMS ERM Award of Distinction 2024. Nominations are due August 30th. A link to the nomination form is in this episode's show notes. [3:09] If you or someone you know manages an ERM program that delivers the goods, we want to hear about it. A link is in this episode's show notes. All RIMS regional conference information can be found on the Events page at RIMS.org. [3:26] Interview! I am delighted to be rejoined by National Safety Council President and CEO Lorraine Martin. Her timing is perfect for National Preparedness Month in September. We've got so much to discuss in the way of natural catastrophes and other risks. [3:46] We will also talk about National Recovery Month, and how prescription opioids can impact employees and employers and why it is such an important business risk. That dovetails into last week's episode with the NCCI. [4:02] We'll talk about the NSC's Safety Congress and Expo on September 13th through the 19th in Florida and we'll also talk a bit about Lorraine's background in the U.S. Air Force, her decades at Lockheed Martin, and how those shaped her risk perspective. [4:24] Lorraine Martin, welcome back to RIMScast! [4:45] Lorraine started her career in the U.S. Air Force. Justin thanks her for her service. After the Air Force, Lorraine spent nearly 30 years at Lockheed Martin. [5:29] The Air Force and all the armed services ask their people to do high-risk things to protect our nation and support our allies around the world. As a member of the armed services, you understand how important safety is to those you protect, and the risks that go with that. [5:55] Lorraine started in the Air Force in the early '80s. Being a five-foot female in the Air Force she had combat boots and survival suits that didn't always fit. She saw the need to keep everyone safe. That means being open and expansive to make sure to cover everybody. [6:44] At Lockheed Martin, Lorraine ran some of the aircraft manufacturing programs. There was potential for serious injury and fatality (SIF), with energy, heights, and all kinds of things that need to be done safely. [7:08] The products being built had to go do important things around the world, so they had to meet safety standards for operation and bring everybody home. Lorraine needed to understand safety in manufacturing and in the mission. [7:30] Justin and Lorraine met after Lorraine joined the NSC as President and CEO in 2019. Less than a year later, COVID-19 hit the U.S. Lorraine has been at the NSC for five years. Time sometimes flew by and In some cases, it felt like the world stood still for everybody. [8:13] On RIMScast in 2020, Justin and Lorraine talked about technology and the importance of reaching people, through podcasts, Zoom, or Teams. Lorraine is responsible for providing training so people can be safe. She had to learn how to do that when she couldn't be with them. [8:40] The NSC had to become good at virtual training and helping customers and stakeholders understand what remote and virtual learning looks like. The world has come so far in understanding what people can do virtually. It's not everything! Human interaction is still critical. [9:01]  Lorraine says we learned so much, whether for drivers' fleet training or for folks doing CPR. The NSC was able to reach more people, which is great when you're talking about safety. In many cases, the NSC reached them in a more cost-effective manner for all involved. [9:27]  The NSC focused on what was happening to humans as they were being buffeted during this time, from 2020. On RIMScast, Lorraine and Justin had talked about mental health. The NSC pioneered some research that looked at how psychological safety impacts physical safety. [9:55] Lorraine believes that since 2020, we've come so far in understanding that physical safety can be impacted by many different aspects of your life like distraction, fatigue, or substance abuse, that can cause you not to be on your game. [10:22] The NSC honed in on the issue of a person not being on their game as being impaired, and they shouldn't do something that would put themselves or somebody else at risk. [10:38] The NSC leaned into trainings around being able to identify impairment and giving people the skills to take action so they can take somebody out of harm's way. It's easy to say and hard to do but so critical. [10:55] The NSC and RIMS both used the pandemic as an opportunity to dial up virtual offerings and dial back some live events. Many of the right live events have come back. There is some training that is important to be in person. [11:18] In-person collaboration and interaction support mental health. Isolation as a result of the pandemic was a burden for many folks. [11:47] The NSC received positive feedback on their SAFER initiative, ensuring people were safe in returning to work. A task force of stakeholders from government, non-profits, public health medical professionals, and Fortune 500 companies advised NSC and NSC advised workplaces. [12:30] The SAFER guidelines included ventilation, vaccination, and all of the things a business would need. It was a one-stop shop for policy statements, legal statements, and other best practices for workplaces to use to safely accommodate workers at work. [13:10] The SAFER initiative is still going on. It's funded now by the CDC. NSC is now looking at long-term COVID, mental health and well-being, the overall long-term effects of a pandemic, and how workplaces prepare for whatever's coming in the future. [14:06] Lorraine just listened to a piece on NPR about COVID-19. We're still learning. We've found a way so that most folks do not perish from it, but we don't know everything about it and probably won't for some time. [14:28] In Long COVID there's some inflammation or reaction that's still happening long after the initial symptoms. Understanding it and what we can do either to prevent or treat it is still in front of us. [14:46] Organizations that let NSC white-label guideline documents for distribution were mostly NSC member organizations. NSC has roughly 14,000 member organizations and companies. They get policies and information from NSC and they also give back so others could learn. [16:01] All of the armed services are members of the National Safety Council. Some of them use NSC training for various things. Lorraine's past employer, Lockheed Martin, has been a member for a long time. [16:13] NSC has groups called networks, made up of the larger companies, that look at big trends coming, to help the government prepare and give back to small and mid-sized companies. Lockheed Martin is in many of the networks as are other Fortune 100 companies. [16:44] It's RIMS plug time! Webinars! On September 5th, Merrill Herzog debuts on RIMS Webinars with the Role of Insurance in Building Resilience Against an Active Assailant Attack. [16:57] On September 12th, HUB International returns to deliver the third part of their Ready for Tomorrow series, Pivot and Swerve: Staying Agile During Shifting Market Dynamics. [17:12] On September 19th, Origami Risk returns to deliver Leveraging Integrated Risk Management For Strategic Advantage. On September 26th, Archer returns to discuss The Future of RMIS: Beyond Traditional Approaches. [17:28] On October 3rd, Diligent will host Mastering ERM: Leveraging Internal and External Risk Factors for Strategic Advantage. More RIMS Webinars will be announced soon and added to RIMS.org/Webinars. Register here. Registration is always complimentary for RIMS members. [17:50] The RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be held November 18th and 19th in Boston, Massachusetts. The agenda is live. [18:01] The submission process is open for the RIMS ERM Global Award of Distinction. A link to the application is in this episode's show notes. The deadline for submissions is August 30th. [18:12] So review your organization's ERM program. If you feel it was successful and you have the numbers and the data to back it up, compile that information and get ready to submit your ERM program for the ERM Award of Distinction. [18:26] The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal is to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals. That is achieved, in part, by a collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [18:41] Whether you want to apply for a grant, participate in the Risk Manager on Campus program, or just learn more about Spencer, visit SpencerEd.org. [18:52] On September 12th, 2024, we look forward to seeing you at the Spencer Funding Their Future Gala at The Cipriani 42nd Street in New York City. Our recent guest from Episode 293, Lilian Vanvieldt-Gray, will be our honoree. [19:08] Lilian is the Executive Vice President and Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer at Alliant Insurance Services and she will be honored for her valuable contributions to supporting the future of risk management and insurance. [19:25] That was a great episode, so after you finish this one, please go back and listen to Episode 293. [19:31] Let's Conclude Our Interview! September is National Preparedness Month. NOAA has said that atmospheric and oceanic conditions continue to support an above-normal 2024 Atlantic hurricane season with a 90% probability of this result. [20:57] Organizations must do a lot to prepare for extreme weather. Extreme weather is getting more common. It affects communities but also impacts people at work. Businesses must be prepared for their businesses to continue but also to protect their people from extreme weather. [21:42] Businesses can act to protect their people from wildfires, tornadoes, storms, and heat. Heat is the deadliest weather event. Our world is getting hotter, the data shows. Many people work outside in extreme, dangerous heat. [22:18] OSHA recently issued a proposed ruling, informed by input from the NSC and its members, to keep indoor and outdoor workers safe from heat injury and illness. Employers need to incorporate these weather events into their safety programs. [22:59] You need a written heat injury and illness policy and prevention program. Document your emergency action plans. Practice them. Hold heat awareness training. Heat exhaustion and heat stress prevention is about being preventative. Know the signs, hydrate, and take shaded breaks. [23:30] Education is hugely important to prevent heat illness. NSC has resources for employers to build their safety programs. Go to NSC.org and reach out. If you haven't put in some of these extreme weather precautions to protect your employees, Lorraine urges you to do so. [24:13] September is also National Alcohol and Drug Addiction Recovery Month. Overdoses are the leading cause of unintentional death in the U.S. Every day we lose 200 people to an unintentional death from an overdose, compared to 100 roadway deaths. [25:16] Deaths on the job from overdoses have increased by over 600% since 2011. Overdoses make up nearly 10% of all deaths at work in the U.S. In some U.S. states the number is higher. In California, the rate of overdose deaths at work over the last 12 months was closer to 20%. [26:09] Construction and agriculture are hard hit by overdose deaths. Sometimes it's the type of work being done. Last year the FDA made naloxone, an opioid reversal medication, available over the counter. [26:39] The NSC advocates that naloxone be stocked in every workplace and all employees be trained in this life-saving reversal practice, just like with CPR or AEDs. You want to be able to administer this life-saving drug on the spot to bring someone back to life if you can. [27:03] For those workplaces where they've had a fatality due to an unintended overdose, it's devastating for the workforce, the community, and families. [27:11] We have this incredibly impactful drug and in most cases, the person has survived, and you can't hurt someone with it, whether or not they're overdosing or whether or not you've misdiagnosed them, you can't hurt them. [27:28] The NSC provides training on its website on how to do naloxone. It's virtual, and it is in a workplace language. NSC also has drug policies, legal briefs, and good samaritan laws, state by state. If somebody says they need some guide, NSC tries to find it to put it on the website. [28:26] Sixty-six percent of people with a substance use disorder of any kind have a job. The workplace is a great place to be intervening for them and having their back. [28:45] A study from the Massachusetts Dept. of Public Health found that Massachusetts working-age residents were 35% more likely to die of an opioid-related overdose if they'd previously been injured at work. [29:06] If you get hurt at work and then get prescribed an opioid, you can sometimes be on that path to a substance use issue just because you're trying to make sure that you can stay healthy and be at work. This is an important issue for our workplaces and employers to be part of. [29:27] Employees in recovery are very good employees who miss fewer days of work than the average employee and they save employers money, once they are back at work. Lorraine encourages employers to ensure employee safety, help in recovery, and get them back to work. [30:11] Labor Day is coming up. NSC offers a message for the Labor Day weekend on how many people may lose their lives if people don't drive well this Labor Day weekend: 457 across the nation. Every single death on a roadway is preventable. When you drive, do so safely. [31:50] Justin says to look for the link to the NSC 2024 Labor Day message in this episode's show notes. [31:58] The NSC Safety Congress & Expo will be held in Orlando, September 13th through the 19th. Lorraine will talk to the stakeholders and be on the stage. It's the big NSC show of the year. There is also a fundraiser around it, the NSC board meeting, and professional development.  [32:29] The main show is on the Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, the 16th through the 18th. Speakers include Doug Parker, the head of OSHA, technical sessions, and a huge Expo floor. [32:43] There will be a cool speaker who is a blind adventurer who climbs mountains, and who will share resilience and safety-related messages. Go the the NSC Safety Congress link in this episode's notes. Lorraine looks forward to seeing everyone this year, there in Orlando. [33:12] Everyone is definitely united at the NSC Safety Congress & Expo! [33:14] Lorraine, it has been such a pleasure to see you again and to speak with you to get your perspective and insight. Thank you for rejoining us! Hopefully, the next time we have you on RIMScast, it won't be four years between visits. [33:37] Special thanks again to NSC CEO, Lorraine Martin for reasoning us here on RIMScast. We love the NSC here at RIMS; they do great work. The NSC Safety Congress & Expo will be held from September 13th through 19th in Orlando, Florida. A link is in this episode's show notes. [34:01] Also in our show notes, you will find the prior interview with Lorraine Martin. She is a wealth of information and perspective. [34:09] It's RIMS plug time! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [34:44] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [35:28] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. [35:48] Risk Knowledge is the RIMS searchable content library that provides relevant information for today's risk professionals. Materials include RIMS executive reports, survey findings, contributed articles, industry research, benchmarking data, and more. [36:02] For the best reporting on the profession of risk management, read Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com. It is written and published by the best minds in risk management. Justin Smulison is the Business Content Manager at RIMS. You can email Justin at Content@RIMS.org. [36:24] Thank you for your continued support and engagement on social media channels! We appreciate all your kind words. Listen every week! Stay safe!   Mentioned in this Episode: DFW RIMS 2024 Fall Conference and Spa Event | Sept 19-20 Chicagoland Risk Forum 2024 – Presented by RIMS Chicago Chapter – Sept. 19, 2024 RIMS Western Regional – Sept 29‒Oct 1, Oregon | Registration is open! RIMS Canada Conference 2024 – Oct. 6‒9 | Registration is open! Spencer Educational Foundation – Funding Their Future Gala 2024 | Sept. 12, 2024 RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be in Boston, MA Nov. 18‒19 | Register Now RIMS ERM Award of Distinction – Nominations Open Through Aug. 30, 2024! RISKWORLD 2025 will be in Chicago! May 4‒7 RIMS DEI Council RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS Strategic & Enterprise Risk Center NEW FOR MEMBERS! RIMS Mobile App NSC CEO and President Lorraine Martin (NSC Bio) NSC Safety Congress & Expo – Sept 13‒19 OSHA Heat Injury and Illness Prevention in Outdoor and Indoor Work Settings Rulemaking National Recovery Month NSC 2024 Labor Day Message   RIMS Webinars: How to Successfully Deploy AI in Risk Management | Sponsored by Riskonnect | Aug. 27, 2024 Role of Insurance in Building Resilience Against an Active Assailant Attack | Sponsored by Merrill Herzog | Sept. 5, 2024 HUB Ready for Tomorrow Series: Pivot and Swerve — Staying Agile During Shifting Market Dynamics | Sept. 12, 2024 Leveraging Integrated Risk Management For Strategic Advantage | Sponsored by Origami Risk | Sept. 19, 2024 The Future of RMIS: Beyond Traditional Approaches | Sponsored by Archer | Sept. 26, 2024 Mastering ERM: Leveraging Internal and External Risk Factors for Strategic Advantage | Sponsored by Diligent | Oct. 3, 2024 RIMS.org/Webinars   Upcoming Virtual Workshops: Optimizing Risk Management with AI | Aug. 29, 2024 Fundamentals of Insurance | Oct 9‒10, 2024 See the full calendar of RIMS Virtual Workshops RIMS-CRMP Prep Workshops   Related RIMScast Episodes: Opioid Awareness and Workers Comp Risks with Raji Chadarevian of the NCCI Bigger Risks with the Texas State Office of Risk Management | Sponsored By Hillwood DE&I Initiatives with Spencer 2024 Honoree Lilian Vanvieldt-Gray of Alliant Insurance Services Safety Does Not Pause: Employee Hazards During COVID-19 with NSC President & CEO Lorraine Martin [March 2020]   Sponsored RIMScast Episodes: “Weathering Today's Property Claims Management Challenges” | Sponsored by AXA XL (New!) “Storm Prep 2024: The Growing Impact of Convective Storms and Hail” | Sponsored by Global Risk Consultants, a TÜV SÜD Company (New!) “Partnering Against Cyberrisk” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Harnessing the Power of Data and Analytics for Effective Risk Management” | Sponsored by Marsh “Accident Prevention — The Winning Formula For Construction and Insurance” | Sponsored by Otoos “Platinum Protection: Underwriting and Risk Engineering's Role in Protecting Commercial Properties” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Elevating RMIS — The Archer Way” | Sponsored by Archer “Alliant's P&C Outlook For 2024” | Sponsored by Alliant “Why Subrogation is the New Arbitration” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyclone Season: Proactive Preparation for Loss Minimization” | Sponsored by Prudent Insurance Brokers Ltd. “Subrogation and the Competitive Advantage” | Sponsored by Fleet Response “Cyberrisk Outlook 2023” | Sponsored by Alliant “Chemical Industry: How To Succeed Amid Emerging Risks and a Challenging Market” | Sponsored by TÜV SÜD “Insuring the Future of the Environment” | Sponsored by AXA XL “Insights into the Gig Economy and its Contractors” | Sponsored by Zurich “The Importance of Disaster Planning Relationships” | Sponsored by ServiceMaster   RIMS Publications, Content, and Links: RIMS Membership — Whether you are a new member or need to transition, be a part of the global risk management community! 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Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guest: Lorraine Martin, CEO, National Safety Council Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use): We just said, “We're going to be the place, if you need anything to navigate the return to work, we're going to have it for you.” And if we didn't have it, companies would give us theirs and enable us in many cases to white-label it and provide it to the world. — Lorraine Martin   We have a lot of resources for employers to build their heat safety programs. — Lorraine Martin   Right now, overdoses are the leading cause of unintentional death in the U.S. Deaths on the job from overdoses have increased by over 600% since 2011. Overdoses make up nearly 10% of all deaths at work. — Lorraine Martin   For those workplaces where they've had a fatality due to an unintended overdose, it's devastating for the workforce, the community, and families. — Lorraine Martin   Driving is the most dangerous thing we do every day and it's even more dangerous during these longer weekends. Buckle up, follow the speed limit, don't get distracted, and drive sober. — Lorraine Martin  

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin Smulison interviews Raji H. Chadarevian, Executive Director, Actuarial Research , the National Council of Compensation Insurance, or NCCI, about opioid use and related risks for injured workers. Raji and Justin talk about the statistics. The good news is that through the joint efforts of insurers, the NCCI, prescribing physicians, pharmacies, and employers, the utilization of opioids for pain management in injured workers, while appropriate in some cases, has decreased sharply in the last eight years, and continuing efforts to find alternative pain management systems should keep that trend going.   Listen in for more information about recovery awareness, and what your company can do to help injured workers avoid opioid addiction. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:14] RISKWORLD 2025 will take place in Chicago, Illinois from May 4th through May 7th. The call for submissions is now open through August 27th. A link to the submission form is in this episode's show notes. [:30] Virtual Workshops! Applying and Integrating ERM is back and it will be hosted by Elise Farnham on September 25th and 25th and also on December 4th and 5th. [:56] On August 29th, Pat Saporito returns to discuss Optimizing Risk Management with Artificial Intelligence. [1:05] On October 9th and 10th, Chris Hansen returns to deliver Fundamentals of Insurance. Other dates for the Fall and the Winter are available on the virtual workshops calendar at RIMS.org/virtualworkshops. [1:24] RIMS-CRMP Prep Courses! On September 10th and 11th, the RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep will be held with NAIT. There is another RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep on September 12th and 13th. [1:38] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Prep course will be hosted along with George Mason University on December 3rd through 5th, 2024. Links to these courses can be found on the Certification Page of RIMS.org and in this episode's show notes. [1:53] Events! We've got the DFW RIMS 2024 Fall Conference and Spa Event happening on September 19th in Irving, Texas. Learn more about that event in Episode 299, which features an interview with the Texas State Office of Risk Management. [2:11] Also on September 19th is the RIMS Chicago Chapter's Chicagoland Risk Forum 2024. Register at ChicagolandRiskForum.org. [2:21] Registration opened for the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 which will be held from October 6th through the 9th in Vancouver. Visit RIMSCanadaConference.ca to register. [2:33] Registration is also open for the RIMS Western Regional, which will be held from September 29th through October 1st at the Sun River Resort in Oregon. Register at RIMSWesternRegional.com. [2:48] We want you to join us in Boston on November 18th and 19th for the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. The agenda is live. The keynote will be announced soon. We want to see you there! A link is in this episode's show notes. [3:04] The nominations are now open for the RIMS ERM Award of Distinction 2024. Nominations are due August 30th. A link to the nomination form is in this episode's show notes. [3:16] If you or someone you know manages an ERM program that delivers the goods, we want to hear about it. A link is in this episode's show notes. All RIMS regional conference information can be found on the Events page at RIMS.org. [3:32] The Interview! With National Recovery Month in September, and National Opioid Awareness Day, September 21st, I wanted to shine a light on opioid addiction and Workers' Compensation claims with new data about opioid abuse and how it impacts the workplace. [4:05] This is a critical risk and I wanted to speak with someone who can tell the story about the data, so I reached out to Raji Chadarevian, the Executive Director for Actuarial Research  at the National Council of Compensation Insurance, or NCCI. [4:24] He has the insight and perspective on the new data that's being released, so let's hear all about it! Raji Chadarevian, welcome to RIMScast! [5:03] Raji states that the NCCI celebrated its 100th anniversary in 2023. The mission of NCCI is to help foster a healthy workers' compensation system. It's an advisory agency for 38 states and the District of Columbia, serving as a comprehensive source for all things workers' comp. [5:47] Raji explains that as an advisory organization, the NCCI provides ratings and statistical advisory insights to the industry, as a whole. It also collects a variety of data. [6:05] Raji is the Executive Director of Research at NCCI. He tells the story behind the numbers. The brainiacs do the research and help him tell the story. [6:47] NCCI collects data representing $30 million in workers' comp premium for just under four million policies a year, six million employer risk reports with detailed information about premiums, claims, and 10 million transactions with detailed information on lost-time claims. [7:17] NCCI collects data on 52 million payments to medical providers for claims every year. The Medical Data Call, where NCCI collects this information, started in 2010. It contains meaningful information to understand the experience of the injured worker throughout the recovery process. [8:01] Mapping the medical data, NCCI gets to understand the medical services provided, where they are provided, by what provider, and for what purpose. The data provides details of drugs prescribed and where they are dispensed, to understand the use of opioids in workers' comp. [8:41] Managing pain is a big part of the recovery for workers' comp injuries. Over the years, NCCI has published opioid use for some 40 states where it collects medical data. This data details precise utilization trends, the types of narcotics used, and the frequency of use. [9:18] The data shows carriers that cover workers' comp for employers are able to compare their experience in any one jurisdiction to statewide trends and act on that intelligence to manage their pharmacy experience. [9:45] In the last eight years, there has been a huge change in opioid prescribing in workers' comp. We've seen a significant decrease. The NCCI data shows that in the last eight years, opioid use in the year after an injury has decreased from 42% of lost time claims to 16%. [11:14] Raji notes this is a very important trend. Being addicted to pain medications makes it hard to manage your daily work when that addiction is taking hold. Opioid use is not opioid addiction. Opioid utilization can lead to opioid addiction. [11:50] There are alternatives to treating pain that have come through with the greater awareness of opioid addiction. [12:04] It's RIMS plug time! Webinars! On August 27th, Riskonnect returns to discuss How To Successfully Deploy AI in Risk Management. On September 5th, Merrill Herzog debuts on RIMS Webinars with the Role of Insurance in Building Resilience Against an Active Assailant Attack. [12:26] On September 12th, HUB International returns to deliver the third part of their Ready for Tomorrow series, Pivot and Swerve: Staying Agile During Shifting Market Dynamics. [12:41] On September 19th, Origami Risk returns to deliver Leveraging Integrated Risk Management For Strategic Advantage. More RIMS Webinars will be announced soon and added to RIMS.org/Webinars. Register there. Registration is always complimentary for RIMS members. [13:00] The RIMS ERM Conference 2024 will be held November 18th and 19th in Boston, Massachusetts. The agenda is live. [13:12] The submission process is open for the RIMS ERM Global Award of Distinction. A link to the application is in this episode's show notes. The deadline for submissions is August 30th. [13:22] So review your organization's ERM program. If you feel it was successful and you have the numbers and the data to back it up, compile that information and get ready to submit your ERM program for the ERM Award of Distinction. [13:37] Back to the Interview! The use of alternative pain medications has driven opioid utilization coming down from 42% of indemnity claims to about 16% of indemnity claims. If you look at all claims, opioid utilization is about one in 16, as opposed to one in four, 10 years ago. [14:12] The huge decrease shows a dramatic change in the way the systems are treating the injured workers, in terms of medications provided. When NCCI first tried to address the opioid epidemic in workers' comp, it held interviews with physicians, carriers, and regulators. [14:50] Workers' comp is a highly regulated system. The regulators had some say in how to manage opioids and other pain prescriptions. There was a meeting of the minds of all stakeholders: those defending the workers, prescribing physicians, carriers, and employers. [15:30] Opioid addiction was an epidemic that impacted the workers' comp system heavily. The conversations with stakeholders led to important insights on what the system can do to manage this experience. [15:57] Each carrier told NCCI they were already developing a specific program to manage the prescribing patterns for injured workers. Regulators were very interested in which opioids were being prescribed. Fentanyl used to be in the top 10 but not anymore. [17:35] The decrease in use was a result of increased awareness across the board, from patients, physicians, claims managers, and employers. Everyone was on board about the seriousness of the opioid situation. [18:11] We have time for one more break! The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal is to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals. That is achieved, in part, by a collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [18:28] Whether you want to apply for a grant, participate in the Risk Manager on Campus program, or just learn more about Spencer, visit SpencerEd.org. [18:39] On September 12th, 2024, we look forward to seeing you at the Spencer Funding Their Future Gala at The Cipriani 42nd Street in New York City. Our recent guest from Episode 293, Lilian Vanvieldt-Gray, will be our honoree. [18:55] Lilian is the Executive Vice President and Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer at Alliant Insurance Services and she will be honored for her valuable contributions to supporting the future of risk management and insurance. [19:12] That was a great episode, so after you finish this one, please go back and listen to Episode 293. [19:18] Let's conclude our interview with Raji Chadarevian of the NCCI. Justin notes that the decline in opioid utilization has been observed across all study states and the 10 most common medical conditions. [19:53] The share of claims with high opioid usage in the first year following an injury has decreased by approximately 85%, reaching an all-time low of two percent, for injuries occurring in 2022. Opioid utilization has started to level off.  [20:17] Utilization at the early stages of the injured worker's recovery increases the likelihood of continued use. Managing the early stage of opioid utilization is important. [20:57] Physicians have told NCCI that one of the strategies they use is to draw up a contract between the prescribing physician and the injured worker that describes when the opioid utilization is going to decrease and then stop. That is effective in managing expectations. [21:28] The more opioids you have, the more you want. Having that contract allows the prescribing physician to manage the opioid use over time. That is critical because once a person gets to a certain stage of using opioids, it's very hard to get the person off opioids. [21:57] Some injured workers return to work while using prescribed opioids and some do not. One side effect of opioid addiction is polypharmacy, an increase of medications being taken, and it becomes very difficult to manage from a medical perspective. [22:49] The data has shown that if you're able to manage opioid utilization from the beginning, the injured worker's recovery can be managed in a predicted way. [23:31] Risk managers need to pay great attention to the injured worker where there is opioid use, making sure that injured workers who do get on an opioid have the necessary support from a nurse case manager, along with the physician, looking out for the patient's care. [24:19] Opioid utilization results in an improved condition over time, so it's tricky to manage. Measuring pain is also very difficult. Raji advises risk managers to make sure they have the right physicians and people assisting with those cases where there is an opioid prescribed. [24:52] Pay more attention to those folks. If opioid utilization is not well-managed, the consequences can be dramatic. Besides polypharmacy, often the patient is not able to sleep, able to function or go back to work, which becomes a bigger issue. [25:48] Raji suggests there are multiple ways to make sure your employees are well-educated from a health perspective. Part of wellness is to be educated and understand the impact of opioids, and such. There are programs to supply your employees with that information. [26:26] HR organizations, workers' comp management, loss control management, and insurers have the tools to help your workers and aid in awareness. [27:00] It's also important to know that health organizations have training for physicians about opioid addiction and alternative prescriptions for pain management. This coming year, NCCI is looking at alternative pain management techniques like behavioral therapy, and physical therapy. [27:58] There is also virtual reality treatment that has an impact. The NCCI study will look at what is currently being used to manage pain and what alternative treatments are effective, including cannabis, depending on the state and jurisdiction. [29:07] The use of virtual reality for treating pain is in training the brain to understand the pain messages coming through that may be associated with trauma. The pain from an injury may be associated with the psychological impact of the trauma. Virtual reality may treat that impact. [30:19] Raji says that there are some interesting studies taking place now on treating pain with virtual reality, including one at the University of Central Florida. [30:47] Raji contributed to a series for NCCI on the future of workplace safety technology. Raji found that technology to help with posture and carrying things is important in a warehouse. In workers' comp, there are a lot of lower back injuries that could be avoided with proper posture. [33:33] Justin hopes to see some unveiling of ergonomic wearable tech at RISKWORLD 2025 in Chicago. [33:46] The NCCI has an upcoming podcast later in 2024, the NCCI State of the Line Podcast. Raji looks forward to being a regular guest on the show, “if the podcasters are like you, Justin, making the conversation as good as this.” [35:00] Justin thanks Raji for coming on RIMScast to help raise awareness of National Recovery Month and National Opioid Awareness Day and for helping injured workers get the pain management they need and return to work safely. [35:24] Special thanks again to Raji Chadarevian of the National Council on Compensation Insurance. Lots of NCCI links are in this episode's show notes. Later this year, listen for Raji on the upcoming NCCI State of the Line Podcast. [35:44] It's RIMS plug time! The RIMS App is available to RIMS members exclusively. Go to the App Store and download the RIMS App with all sorts of RIMS resources and coverage. It's different from the RIMS Events App. Everyone loves the RIMS App! [36:17] You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in our show notes. RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [37:01] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. 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RIMS Virtual Workshops On-Demand Webinars RIMS-Certified Risk Management Professional (RIMS-CRMP) RIMS-CRMP Stories — New interviews featuring RIMS Risk Management Honor Roll Inductee Mrunal Pandit!   RIMS Events, Education, and Services: RIMS Risk Maturity Model® RIMS Events App Apple | Google Play   Sponsor RIMScast: Contact sales@rims.org or pd@rims.org for more information.   Want to Learn More? Keep up with the podcast on RIMS.org and listen on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.   Have a question or suggestion? Email: Content@rims.org.   Join the Conversation! Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guests: Raji H. Chadarevian Executive Director, Actuarial Research , of the National Council on Compensation Insurance (NCCI) Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use): I'm all about telling the story behind the numbers. The research is meaningless if you can't tell that story. My job is to let the brainiacs of NCCI do the research and help me tell the real story behind it all. — Raji Chadarevian   It's a huge decrease in opioid use and it just means that the way the systems are treating the injured workers has changed dramatically, in terms of what medications are provided. — Raji Chadarevian   One of the strategies that physicians use to manage opioid use is to draw up a contract between the prescribing physician and the injured worker that describes when the opioid utilization is going to decrease and then stop. — Raji Chadarevian   Of the future of wearable workplace safety technology, what I would see as important is technology that helps with the posture in a warehouse and how you carry things; the ergonomic aspect. A lot of what we see in workers' comp is back injuries. — Raji Chadarevian    

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   Justin Smulison interviews Daniel Eliot of NIST about NIST, its new publications on cybersecurity, including two Quick Start Guides, the Cybersecurity Framework 2.0, and more, Daniel's history with cybersecurity for small businesses and his career-long passion for helping small businesses protect themselves against cybercrime.   Listen in for the latest information on NIST and cybersecurity guidelines for your organization. Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS. [:14] RISKWORLD 2025 will take place in Chicago, Illinois from May 4th through May 7th. The call for submissions is now open through August 27th. A link to the submission form is in this episode's show notes. [:30] About this episode. We will be joined by Daniel Eliot from the National Institute of Standards and Technology, or NIST. [:52] First, let's talk about RIMS Virtual Workshops. The full calendar of virtual workshops is at RIMS.org/VirtualWorkshops. August 15th starts the three-part series, Leveraging Data and Analytics for Continuous Risk Management. Other dates for the Fall and Winter are available on the Virtual Workshops full calendar at RIMS.org/VirtualWorkshops. [1:14] Let's talk about prep courses for the RIMS-CRMP. On September 10th and 11th, the RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep will be held with NAIT. There is another RIMS-CRMP Exam Prep on September 12th and 13th. [1:29] The next RIMS-CRMP-FED Exam Prep course will be hosted along with George Mason University on December 3rd through 5th, 2024. Links to these courses can be found on the Certification Page of RIMS.org and in this episode's show notes. [1:44] We've got the DFW RIMS 2024 Fall Conference and Spa Event happening on September 19th in Irving, Texas. Learn more about that event in Episode 299, which features an interview with the Texas State Office of Risk Management. [2:02] Also on September 19th is the RIMS Chicago Chapter's Chicagoland Risk Forum 2024. Register at ChicagolandRiskForum.org. [2:12] Registration opened for the RIMS Canada Conference 2024 which will be held from October 6th through the 9th in Vancouver. Visit RIMSCanadaConference.ca to register. [2:25] Registration is also open for the RIMS Western Regional, which will be held from September 29th through October 1st at the Sun River Resort in Oregon. Register at RIMSWesternRegional.com. [2:38] We want you to join us in Boston on November 18th and 19th for the RIMS ERM Conference 2024. The agenda is live. The keynote will be announced soon. We want to see you there! A link is in this episode's show notes. [2:53] The nominations are now open for the RIMS ERM Award of Distinction 2024. Nominations are due August 30th. A link to the nomination form is in this episode's show notes. [3:07] If you or someone you know manages an ERM program that delivers the goods, we want to hear about it. A link is in this episode's show notes. All RIMS regional conference information can be found on the Events page at RIMS.org. [3:24] On with the show! In October, we will celebrate National Cybersecurity Awareness Month. You should observe it all year round, of course. My guest today has a lot of great insight into risk frameworks. He is Daniel Eliot, the Lead for Small Business Engagement in the Applied Cybersecurity Division of The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). [3:48] NIST is part of the U.S. Department of Commerce. Today, we will discuss some of the publicly available risk management frameworks and how they've evolved through the years and the new frameworks that address AI, as well. [4:05] You may remember Daniel from his appearance on an episode in April 2020, when he was with the National Cybersecurity Alliance. He is back to provide some new tips for the global risk management community. [4:18] Daniel Eliot, welcome back to RIMScast! [4:42] Justin and Daniel comment on some things that have changed since April 2020. Daniel was at the National Cybersecurity Alliance (NCA). [5:50] Now Daniel is the Lead for Small Business Engagement in the Applied Cybersecurity Division of The NIST. He shares his journey from NCA to NIST via the National Cybersecurity Center of Excellence, a NIST facility operated by Mitre. [6:52] Daniel is happy to be back supporting the small business community. [7:04] Daniel had worked in a small tech startup for almost seven years. He helped them scale the business and manage the development of their product. Next, Daniel joined the University of Delaware's Small Business Development Center, helping tech businesses start and scale. [8:16] Daniel applied for an SBA grant to help small businesses with cybersecurity. This was in 2014. The Cybersecurity Framework was published in 2014. Daniel applied the Cybersecurity Framework to small businesses. That started Daniel's career in small business cybersecurity. [9:32] There's a new NIST Risk Management Framework (RMF) Small Enterprise Quick Start Guide. Daniel's role at NIST is to coordinate across NIST, government, and the private sector, to create opportunities for the small business community to engage with NIST expertise. [10:19] The RMF Small Enterprise Quick Start Guide is a product of that coordination across NIST, government, and the private sector community. In February, NIST produced the Cybersecurity Framework 2.0 Small Business Quick Start Guide. [10:44] NIST decided to do a Quick Start Guide for a risk management framework for small to medium enterprises. The Risk Management Framework is a process. It's a holistic and repeatable seven-step process for managing security and privacy risks. [11:23] The NIST RMF Quick Start Guide provides an overview of the seven steps of the process, the foundational tasks for each step, tips for getting started with each step, a sample planning table, key terminology and definitions, questions to consider, and related resources. [11:53] It's RIMS plug time! Webinars! All RIMS Webinar registration pages are available at RIMS/org/Webinars. On August 27th, Riskonnect returns to discuss How To Successfully Deploy AI in Risk Management. [12:12] On September 5th, Merrill Herzog makes their RIMS Webinars debut with the Role of Insurance in Building Resilience Against an Active Assailant Attack. On September 19th, Origami Risk returns to deliver Leveraging Integrated Risk Management For Strategic Advantage. [12:28] Justin jumped ahead a bit. On September 12th, HUB International returns to deliver the third part of their Ready for Tomorrow series, Pivot and Swerve: Staying Agile During Shifting Market Dynamics. [12:44] Justin is delighted to be joined by the moderator for that session, the Chief Marketing Officer for Canada at HUB International, Linda Regner Dykeman. Justin welcomes Linda to RIMScast! [13:13] The webinar will be at 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time on September 12th. Linda says they will be discussing current market trends and challenges. The industry has been able to produce some very strong profits over the last few years. [13:29] The market needed correction after many years of unprofitability driven by weather events in the property line where rates seemed to be unsustainable. Casualty also had its issues, particularly with Directors and Officers Liability. [13:47] As a result of the profitability the industry was able to achieve over the last few years, most carriers have become more competitive in growing their books of business. This competition is not being seen in all lines, segments, or geographies. [14:04] Some catastrophe-prone zones such as BC and Alberta have not seen the same level of competition across the board. As the market transitions from a hard market to a competitive environment, there is some unusual and inconsistent behavior. [14:21] Carriers in Canada are being more flexible with their appetite. London is looking to grow significantly over the next couple of years with goals of hitting $100 billion by 2025. Add to that NGAs who are seeing their market share change as local carriers become more competitive. [14:39] As we transition out of what was considered to be a hard market, we see a lot of inconsistency in this market. [14:48] Add to this the supply chain issues, which are not what they once were, the economy is flat with spending, once normalized for an increase in population, it reflects that of a market in a recession. [15:02] We, as brokers are finding competitive solutions to protect our clients. We have to pivot and swerve to discover the right opportunities. [15:13] We had a significant rain event in Toronto, followed by one of the worst wildfires Jasper has ever seen, seemingly a once-in-a-hundred-year event; weather catastrophes are more severe and more frequent. [15:27] How is this going to change the availability of capacity and pricing? Time will tell, as insurers try to figure out if their pricing models included the right loadings for these events. [15:49] Being informed by what is happening in the market; the trends, the opportunities, what's available, and partnering with the right broker, will help a risk manager make an informed decision, appropriate for their business. [16:11] The panelists have decades of experience and expertise across North America. They work with clients, markets, and other experts and bring a much broader perspective and experience to this session. [16:26] Steve Pottle is the risk manager on the panel. He's been omnipresent in RIMS Canada for years. He's a former RIMS VP and is currently the Director for Risk and Safety Services at Thompson Rivers University. Justin says he's one of the best and Linda agrees. [16:57] Linda will moderate. She'll ask the panelists questions HUB International has received from its clients, based on what they are seeing happening in the environment around them. She would also like the audience to pose some questions. Audience participation is encouraged. [17:21] Justin thanks Linda Regner Dykeman of HUB International, and will see her again on September 12th, 2024 for the third installment of HUB's Ready for Tomorrow series, Pivot and Swerve: Staying Agile During Shifting Market Dynamics. [17:37] Let's return to today's interview with Daniel Eliot from NIST. [17:53] Daniel states that the Risk Management Framework is a repeatable seven-step process for managing security and privacy risks. It starts with preparation, categorizing, and understanding the information that your organization processes, stores, and transmits.  [18:20] Then you select controls, and implement those controls to protect the security and privacy of the systems. Then you assess, authorize, and monitor the controls. Are the selected controls producing the desired results? Are there changes to the organization that require new controls? [18:45] You follow the seven steps of the framework in order and repeat them in a cycle. Keep going through it. Every organization regularly changes. Technologies change. People change. That's why the framework has to be repeatable and flexible. [19:05] NIST published this Risk Management Framework Smal Enterprise Quick Start Guide as a tool to raise awareness within the Small and Medium Enterprise (SME) Community about what the Risk Management Framework is and how to get started with it. [19:26] This Quick Start Guide is not intended to guide you on your journey from start to finish for a comprehensive risk management implementation. It is a starting point. [19:41] The Guide has an overview of the steps of the Risk Management Framework, some foundational tasks for each of the RMF steps, some tips for getting started, some sample planning tables, and graphics to help people understand concepts that might be new to them. [20:02] NIST spent a lot of time defining key terminology, extracting terms out of the Risk Management Framework, and highlighting them in this Quick Start Guide. There are phrases and terms in the Risk Management Framework that some people new to it might not understand. [20:24] For example, “authorization boundary.” The Guide highlights and illustrates what these terms mean in the Risk Management Framework and adds questions for organizations to consider and use internally for discussion. The answers may be different for every organization. [21:12] This Guide is a derivative tool from the existing publication that went out for public comment. The Quick Start Guide did not go out for public comment but NIST has circulated Quick Start Guides to some small businesses they know to make sure it's hitting the right note. [21:56] Daniel monitors commentary and looks at how the Guide is received out in the world once it's published. In every Quick Start Guide, there is an opportunity for people to contact NIST if they have questions or if there is an error. NIST is always open to feedback. [23:03] In small businesses, Daniel finds the owner or operator is the Chief Risk Officer, the Janitor, the CISO, and the Chief Marketing Officer. Anyone can use the Risk Management Framework. It's a process. [23:25] Federal agencies, contractors to the federal government, and other sources that use or operate a federal information system typically use the suite of NIST Risk Management Standards and Guidelines to develop and implement a risk-based approach. [23:48] A lot of the audience for this Small Enterprise Quick Start Guide might be small universities, small municipalities, or small federal agencies implementing this Risk Management Framework. [24:27] We have time for one more break! The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal is to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals. That is achieved, in part, by a collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [24:45] Whether you want to apply for a grant, participate in the Risk Manager on Campus program, or just learn more about Spencer, visit SpencerEd.org. [24:55] On September 12th, 2024, we look forward to seeing you at the Spencer Funding Their Future Gala at The Cipriani 42nd Street in New York City. Our recent guest from Episode 293, Lilian Vanvieldt-Gray, will be our honoree. [25:11] Lilian is the Executive Vice President and Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer at Alliant Insurance Services and she will be honored for her valuable contributions to supporting the future of risk management and insurance. [25:28] That was a great episode, so after you finish this one, please go back and listen to Episode 293. [25:34] Let's conclude our interview with Daniel Eliot of NIST. [26:10] Daniel introduces the U.S. AI Safety Institute, housed within NIST. It's tasked with advancing the science, practice, and adoption of AI safety across the spectrum of risks, including those to national security, public safety, and individual rights. [26:39] The efforts of the U.S. AI Safety Institute initially focused on the priorities assigned to NIST under President Biden's Executive Order on the Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Development and Use of Artificial Intelligence. [26:51] On July 26th, 2024, they released resources for a variety of aspects of AI technology. Two are new to the public. The first is an initial public draft of a guidance document intended to help software developers mitigate the risks of generative AI and dual-use foundation models. [27:19] The other is a testing platform intended to help AI system users and developers measure how certain types of attacks can degrade the performance of an AI system. These are two opportunities for the public to provide comments on these publications and tools. [27:49] There is a link to the call for comments in this episode's show notes. [28:03] At NIST, foundational publications go out for public comment. NIST wants to hear from U.S. citizens and people all over the world to get their perspectives on NIST's approach to what they're addressing. This is a community effort. Comment periods are important. [28:37] From Daniel's perspective of small business, he seeks the comments of small businesses on these publications. Authors need to hear from organizations, large and small. [28:53] These two new publications are open for public comment. [28:59] three releases are final publications. One is The AI Risk Management Framework Generative AI Profile, which helps organizations identify unique risks posed by generative AI. It includes actions for generative AI risk management. [29:34] A second publication is the Secure Software Development Practices for Generative AI and Dual Use Foundation Models. It addresses concerns about Generative AI systems being compromised with malicious training data that would adversely affect system performance. [30:16] The third publication is A Plan for Global Engagement on AI Standards. It's intended to drive worldwide development and implementation of AI-related consensus standards. Standards require global input from businesses, governments, non-profits, and academia. [30:57] These three final publications have been informed by public comment periods. They're ready to hit the ground running and people can put them into action. [31:15] Daniel is part of the Applied Cybersecurity Division of NIST. The U.S. AI Safety Institute is a different part of NIST. [31:44] Every once in a while, public comments receive spammy messages. [32:23] Daniel says all cybersecurity and privacy risk management comes back to governance and having policies and procedures in place, knowing your contractual and legal responsibilities. Organizations need policies that guide behavior for the appropriate use of AI in their business. [32:59] Individuals in companies have pasted confidential company information into publicly available AI systems. That creates a vulnerability. Have a policy around the use of these tools. [33:31] Criminals have used AI to upgrade phishing scams, reduce grammatical errors, and craft more convincing appeals. [35:00] NIST is raising awareness of different ways of identifying phishing attacks besides looking for grammatical errors, such as looking at the links and the calls to action and other factors that show it is a phishing scam. AI is contributing to their increasing sophistication. [35:43] Daniel shares his tip for new risk professionals. Familiarize yourselves with the suite of resources that NIST has available for cybersecurity and privacy risk management. They have a broad variety of risk management frameworks and resources, like the Quick Start Guide. [36:42] There are online courses, extensive FAQs with answers, and archived talks from SMEs. Take advantage of these resources. Also, let NIST know what other resources might be helpful to you. The core of NIST guidance for any framework is good governance. [37:21] Understand your mission and requirements. Create and maintain policies for good behavior. Understand your supply chain dependencies and vulnerabilities. Good governance sets your organization up for success when implementing and monitoring risk-mitigating controls. [37:56] NIST offers consistent, clear, concise, and actionable resources to small businesses. Since 2018, they have maintained a website, NIST Small Business Cybersecurity Corner, with over 70 resources on the site, all tailored to small businesses. The Quick Start Guides are there. [38:32] The resources include short videos, tip sheets, case studies, and guidance organized by both topic and industry. All the resources are free and produced by federal agencies, such as NIST, FBI, CISA, as well as nonprofit organizations. It's a one-stop shop for this information. [39:04] The resources are regularly updated and expanded to keep the content fresh and relevant. The resource library has the Cybersecurity Basics Section, with eight basic steps businesses can inexpensively implement to reduce cybersecurity risks. [39:28] The Cybersecurity Framework Page highlights the CSF and small business resources related to the CSF. There is topical guidance on Multi-Factor Authentication, Ransomware, Phishing, Government Contracting Requirements, and Choosing a Vendor or Service Provider. [39:53] All the resources are available at NIST.gov/ITL/SmallBusinessCyber. The link is in this episode's show notes. The resources are there for you to use in your organization. [40:30] Justin says, “It has been such a pleasure to reconnect with you here on RIMScast! I always love it when you post on LinkedIn! I think you're great! You're keeping me informed. Happy National Cybersecurity Awareness Month to you!” [40:55] With developments in tech and AI, cybersecurity has taken a back seat, but Justin says it will come back pretty hard. Justin feels it will be sooner than four-and-a-half years for Daniel to return to RIMScast. [41:23] Whatever new technology comes out, cybercriminals are looking at it to see how they can exploit it. There will always be a cybersecurity component to it. [42:05] Daniel Eliot, thank you so much for rejoining us here on RIMScast! [42:10] Special thanks again to Daniel Eliot of NIST for rejoining us here on RIMScast. Lots of links are in this episode's show notes to aid small enterprise owners and risk professionals. [42:25] These resources are publicly available and complimentary, so by all means, use them and leverage them to ensure your organization's cyber resilience. I've got lots of links in this episode's show notes for more cybersecurity coverage from RIMS, as well. [42:44] It's RIMS plug time! 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Follow @RIMSorg on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.   About our guests: Daniel Eliot, Lead for Small Business Engagement Small Business Cybersecurity CornerApplied Cybersecurity DivisionNational Institute of Standards and Technology U.S. Department of Commerce Linda Regner Dykeman, HUB International, Chief Marketing Officer for Canada   Tweetables (Edited For Social Media Use): I'm happy to be back at NIST, supporting the small business community. — Daniel Eliot   The industry has been able to produce some very strong profits over the last few years, after many years of unprofitability driven by weather events in the property line. — Linda Regner Dykeman   Follow the seven steps of the framework in order and repeat them in a cycle. Keep going through it. Every organization regularly changes. Technologies change. People change. That's why it has to be repeatable and flexible. — Daniel Eliot   There are phrases and terms associated with the Risk Management Framework that some people who are new to this might not understand. — Daniel Eliot   When talking about small businesses, the owner or operator is the Chief Risk Officer, the Janitor, the CISO, and the Chief Marketing Officer. — Daniel Eliot   An AI system is only as good as the information that's put into it. — Daniel Eliot