Podcasts about hacking darwin

My fellow pro-growth/progress/abundance Up Wingers,Once-science-fiction advancements like AI, gene editing, and advanced biotechnology have finally arrived, and they're here to stay. These technologies have seemingly set us on a course towards a brand new future for humanity, one we can hardly even picture today. But progress doesn't happen overnight, and it isn't the result of any one breakthrough.As Jamie Metzl explains in his new book, Superconvergence: How the Genetics, Biotech, and AI Revolutions will Transform our Lives, Work, and World, tech innovations work alongside and because of one another, bringing about the future right under our noses.Today on Faster, Please! — The Podcast, I chat with Metzl about how humans have been radically reshaping the world around them since their very beginning, and what the latest and most disruptive technologies mean for the not-too-distant future.Metzl is a senior fellow of the Atlantic Council and a faculty member of NextMed Health. He has previously held a series of positions in the US government, and was appointed to the World Health Organization's advisory committee on human genome editing in 2019. He is the author of several books, including two sci-fi thrillers and his international bestseller, Hacking Darwin.In This Episode* Unstoppable and unpredictable (1:54)* Normalizing the extraordinary (9:46)* Engineering intelligence (13:53)* Distrust of disruption (19:44)* Risk tolerance (24:08)* What is a “newnimal”? (13:11)* Inspired by curiosity (33:42)Below is a lightly edited transcript of our conversation. Unstoppable and unpredictable (1:54)The name of the game for all of this . . . is to ask “What are the things that we can do to increase the odds of a more positive story and decrease the odds of a more negative story?”Pethokoukis: Are you telling a story of unstoppable technological momentum or are you telling a story kind of like A Christmas Carol, of a future that could be if we do X, Y, and Z, but no guarantees?Metzl: The future of technological progress is like the past: It is unstoppable, but that doesn't mean it's predetermined. The path that we have gone over the last 12,000 years, from the domestication of crops to building our civilizations, languages, industrialization — it's a bad metaphor now, but — this train is accelerating. It's moving faster and faster, so that's not up for grabs. It is not up for grabs whether we are going to have the capacities to engineer novel intelligence and re-engineer life — we are doing both of those things now in the early days.What is up for grabs is how these revolutions will play out, and there are better and worse scenarios that we can imagine. The name of the game for all of this, the reason why I do the work that I do, why I write the books that I write, is to ask “What are the things that we can do to increase the odds of a more positive story and decrease the odds of a more negative story?”Progress has been sort of unstoppable for all that time, though, of course, fits and starts and periods of stagnation —— But when you look back at those fits and starts — the size of the Black Plague or World War II, or wiping out Berlin, and Dresden, and Tokyo, and Hiroshima, and Nagasaki — in spite of all of those things, it's one-directional. Our technologies have gotten more powerful. We've developed more capacities, greater ability to manipulate the world around us, so there will be fits and starts but, as I said, this train is moving. That's why these conversations are so important, because there's so much that we can, and I believe must, do now.There's a widely held opinion that progress over the past 50 years has been slower than people might have expected in the late 1960s, but we seem to have some technologies now for which the momentum seems pretty unstoppable.Of course, a lot of people thought, after ChatGPT came out, that superintelligence would happen within six months. That didn't happen. After CRISPR arrived, I'm sure there were lots of people who expected miracle cures right away.What makes you think that these technologies will look a lot different, and our world will look a lot different than they do right now by decade's end?They certainly will look a lot different, but there's also a lot of hype around these technologies. You use the word “superintelligence,” which is probably a good word. I don't like the words “artificial intelligence,” and I have a six-letter framing for what I believe about AGI — artificial general intelligence — and that is: AGI is BS. We have no idea what human intelligence is, if we define our own intelligence so narrowly that it's just this very narrow form of thinking and then we say, “Wow, we have these machines that are mining the entirety of digitized human cultural history, and wow, they're so brilliant, they can write poems — poems in languages that our ancestors have invented based on the work of humans.” So we humans need to be very careful not to belittle ourselves.But we're already seeing, across the board, if you say, “Is CRISPR on its own going to fundamentally transform all of life?” The answer to that is absolutely no. My last book was about genetic engineering. If genetic engineering is a pie, genome editing is a slice and CRISPR is just a tiny little sliver of that slice. But the reason why my new book is called Superconvergence, the entire thesis is that all of these technologies inspire, and influence, and are embedded in each other. We had the agricultural revolution 12,000 years ago, as I mentioned. That's what led to these other innovations like civilization, like writing, and then the ancient writing codes are the foundation of computer codes which underpin our machine learning and AI systems that are allowing us to unlock secrets of the natural world.People are imagining that AI equals ChatGPT, but that's really not the case (AI equals ChatGPT like electricity equals the power station). The story of AI is empowering us to do all of these other things. As a general-purpose technology, already AI is developing the capacity to help us just do basic things faster. Computer coding is the archetypal example of that. Over the last couple of years, the speed of coding has improved by about 50 percent for the most advanced human coders, and as we code, our coding algorithms are learning about the process of coding. We're just laying a foundation for all of these other things.That's what I call “boring AI.” People are imagining exciting AI, like there's a magic AI button and you just press it and AI cures cancer. That's not how it's going to work. Boring AI is going to be embedded in human resource management. It's going to be embedded just giving us a lot of capabilities to do things better, faster than we've done them before. It doesn't mean that AIs are going to replace us. There are a lot of things that humans do that machines can just do better than we are. That's why most of us aren't doing hunting, or gathering, or farming, because we developed machines and other technologies to feed us with much less human labor input, and we have used that reallocation of our time and energy to write books and invent other things. That's going to happen here.The name of the game for us humans, there's two things: One is figuring out what does it mean to be a great human and over-index on that, and two, lay the foundation so that these multiple overlapping revolutions, as they play out in multiple fields, can be governed wisely. That is the name of the game. So when people say, “Is it going to change our lives?” I think people are thinking of it in the wrong way. This shirt that I'm wearing, this same shirt five years from now, you'll say, “Well, is there AI in your shirt?” — because it doesn't look like AI — and what I'm going to say is “Yes, in the manufacturing of this thread, in the management of the supply chain, in figuring out who gets to go on vacation, when, in the company that's making these buttons.” It's all these little things. People will just call it progress. People are imagining magic AI, all of these interwoven technologies will just feel like accelerating progress, and that will just feel like life.Normalizing the extraordinary (9:46)20, 30 years ago we didn't have the internet. I think things get so normalized that this just feels like life.What you're describing is a technology that economists would call a general-purpose technology. It's a technology embedded in everything, it's everywhere in the economy, much as electricity.What you call “boring AI,” the way I think about it is: I was just reading a Wall Street Journal story about Applebee's talking about using AI for more efficient customer loyalty programs, and they would use machine vision to look at their tables to see if they were cleaned well enough between customers. That, to people, probably doesn't seem particularly science-fictional. It doesn't seem world-changing. Of course, faster growth and a more productive economy is built on those little things, but I guess I would still call those “boring AI.”What to me definitely is not boring AI is the sort of combinatorial aspect that you're talking about where you're talking about AI helping the scientific discovery process and then interweaving with other technologies in kind of the classic Paul Romer combinatorial way.I think a lot of people, if they look back at their lives 20 or 30 years ago, they would say, “Okay, more screen time, but probably pretty much the same.”I don't think they would say that. 20, 30 years ago we didn't have the internet. I think things get so normalized that this just feels like life. If you had told ourselves 30 years ago, “You're going to have access to all the world's knowledge in your pocket.” You and I are — based on appearances, although you look so youthful — roughly the same age, so you probably remember, “Hurry, it's long distance! Run down the stairs!”We live in this radical science-fiction world that has been normalized, and even the things that you are mentioning, if you see open up your newsfeed and you see that there's this been incredible innovation in cancer care, and whether it's gene therapy, or autoimmune stuff, or whatever, you're not thinking, “Oh, that was AI that did that,” because you read the thing and it's like “These researchers at University of X,” but it is AI, it is electricity, it is agriculture. It's because our ancestors learned how to plant seeds and grow plants where you're stationed and not have to do hunting and gathering that you have had this innovation that is keeping your grandmother alive for another 10 years.What you're describing is what I call “magical AI,” and that's not how it works. Some of the stuff is magical: the Jetsons stuff, and self-driving cars, these things that are just autopilot airplanes, we live in a world of magical science fiction and then whenever something shows up, we think, “Oh yeah, no big deal.” We had ChatGPT, now ChatGPT, no big deal?If you had taken your grandparents, your parents, and just said, “Hey, I'm going to put you behind a screen. You're going to have a conversation with something, with a voice, and you're going to do it for five hours,” and let's say they'd never heard of computers and it was all this pleasant voice. In the end they said, “You just had a five-hour conversation with a non-human, and it told you about everything and all of human history, and it wrote poems, and it gave you a recipe for kale mush or whatever you're eating,” you'd say, “Wow!” I think that we are living in that sci-fi world. It's going to get faster, but every innovation, we're not going to say, “Oh, AI did that.” We're just going to say, “Oh, that happened.”Engineering intelligence (13:53)I don't like the word “artificial intelligence” because artificial intelligence means “artificial human intelligence.” This is machine intelligence, which is inspired by the products of human intelligence, but it's a different form of intelligence . . .I sometimes feel in my own writing, and as I peruse the media, like I read a lot more about AI, the digital economy, information technology, and I feel like I certainly write much less about genetic engineering, biotechnology, which obviously is a key theme in your book. What am I missing right now that's happening that may seem normal five years from now, 10 years, but if I were to read about it now or understand it now, I'd think, “Well, that is kind of amazing.”My answer to that is kind of everything. As I said before, we are at the very beginning of this new era of life on earth where one species, among the billions that have ever lived, suddenly has the increasing ability to engineer novel intelligence and re-engineer life.We have evolved by the Darwinian processes of random mutation and natural selection, and we are beginning a new phase of life, a new Cambrian Revolution, where we are creating, certainly with this novel intelligence that we are birthing — I don't like the word “artificial intelligence” because artificial intelligence means “artificial human intelligence.” This is machine intelligence, which is inspired by the products of human intelligence, but it's a different form of intelligence, just like dolphin intelligence is a different form of intelligence than human intelligence, although we are related because of our common mammalian route. That's what's happening here, and our brain function is roughly the same as it's been, certainly at least for tens of thousands of years, but the AI machine intelligence is getting smarter, and we're just experiencing it.It's become so normalized that you can even ask that question. We live in a world where we have these AI systems that are just doing more and cooler stuff every day: driving cars, you talked about discoveries, we have self-driving laboratories that are increasingly autonomous. We have machines that are increasingly writing their own code. We live in a world where machine intelligence has been boxed in these kinds of places like computers, but very soon it's coming out into the world. The AI revolution, and machine-learning revolution, and the robotics revolution are going to be intersecting relatively soon in meaningful ways.AI has advanced more quickly than robotics because it hasn't had to navigate the real world like we have. That's why I'm always so mindful of not denigrating who we are and what we stand for. Four billion years of evolution is a long time. We've learned a lot along the way, so it's going to be hard to put the AI and have it out functioning in the world, interacting in this world that we have largely, but not exclusively, created.But that's all what's coming. Some specific things: 30 years from now, my guess is many people who are listening to this podcast will be fornicating regularly with robots, and it'll be totally normal and comfortable.. . . I think some people are going to be put off by that.Yeah, some people will be put off and some people will be turned on. All I'm saying is it's going to be a mix of different —Jamie, what I would like to do is be 90 years old and be able to still take long walks, be sharp, not have my knee screaming at me. That's what I would like. Can I expect that?I think this can help, but you have to decide how to behave with your personalized robot.That's what I want. I'm looking for the achievement of human suffering. Will there be a world of less human suffering?We live in that world of less human suffering! If you just look at any metric of anything, this is the best time to be alive, and it's getting better and better. . . We're living longer, we're living healthier, we're better educated, we're more informed, we have access to more and better food. This is by far the best time to be alive, and if we don't massively screw it up, and frankly, even if we do, to a certain extent, it'll continue to get better.I write about this in Superconvergence, we're moving in healthcare from our world of generalized healthcare based on population averages to precision healthcare, to predictive and preventive. In education, some of us, like myself, you have had access to great education, but not everybody has that. We're going to have access to fantastic education, personalized education everywhere for students based on their own styles of learning, and capacities, and native languages. This is a wonderful, exciting time.We're going to get all of those things that we can hope for and we're going to get a lot of things that we can't even imagine. And there are going to be very real potential dangers, and if we want to have the good story, as I keep saying, and not have the bad story, now is the time where we need to start making the real investments.Distrust of disruption (19:44)Your job is the disruption of this thing that's come before. . . stopping the advance of progress is just not one of our options.I think some people would, when they hear about all these changes, they'd think what you're telling them is “the bad story.”I just talked about fornicating with robots, it's the bad story?Yeah, some people might find that bad story. But listen, we live at an age where people have recoiled against the disruption of trade, for instance. People are very allergic to the idea of economic disruption. I think about all the debate we had over stem cell therapy back in the early 2000s, 2002. There certainly is going to be a certain contingent that, what they're going to hear what you're saying is: you're going to change what it means to be a human. You're going to change what it means to have a job. I don't know if I want all this. I'm not asking for all this.And we've seen where that pushback has greatly changed, for instance, how we trade with other nations. Are you concerned that that pushback could create regulatory or legislative obstacles to the kind of future you're talking about?All of those things, and some of that pushback, frankly, is healthy. These are fundamental changes, but those people who are pushing back are benchmarking their own lives to the world that they were born into and, in most cases, without recognizing how radical those lives already are, if the people you're talking about are hunter-gatherers in some remote place who've not gone through domestication of agriculture, and industrialization, and all of these kinds of things, that's like, wow, you're going from being this little hunter-gatherer tribe in the middle of Atlantis and all of a sudden you're going to be in a world of gene therapy and shifting trading patterns.But the people who are saying, “Well, my job as a computer programmer, as a whatever, is going to get disrupted,” your job is the disruption. Your job is the disruption of this thing that's come before. As I said at the start of our conversation, stopping the advance of progress is just not one of our options.We could do it, and societies have done it before, and they've lost their economies, they've lost their vitality. Just go to Europe, Europe is having this crisis now because for decades they saw their economy and their society, frankly, as a museum to the past where they didn't want to change, they didn't want to think about the implications of new technologies and new trends. It's why I am just back from Italy. It's wonderful, I love visiting these little farms where they're milking the goats like they've done for centuries and making cheese they've made for centuries, but their economies are shrinking with incredible rapidity where ours and the Chinese are growing.Everybody wants to hold onto the thing that they know. It's a very natural thing, and I'm not saying we should disregard those views, but the societies that have clung too tightly to the way things were tend to lose their vitality and, ultimately, their freedom. That's what you see in the war with Russia and Ukraine. Let's just say there are people in Ukraine who said, “Let's not embrace new disruptive technologies.” Their country would disappear.We live in a competitive world where you can opt out like Europe opted out solely because they lived under the US security umbrella. And now that President Trump is threatening the withdrawal of that security umbrella, Europe is being forced to race not into the future, but to race into the present.Risk tolerance (24:08). . . experts, scientists, even governments don't have any more authority to make these decisions about the future of our species than everybody else.I certainly understand that sort of analogy, and compared to Europe, we look like a far more risk-embracing kind of society. Yet I wonder how resilient that attitude — because obviously I would've said the same thing maybe in 1968 about the United States, and yet a decade later we stopped building nuclear reactors — I wonder how resilient we are to anything going wrong, like something going on with an AI system where somebody dies. Or something that looks like a cure that kills someone. Or even, there seems to be this nuclear power revival, how resilient would that be to any kind of accident? How resilient do you think are we right now to the inevitable bumps along the way?It depends on who you mean by “we.” Let's just say “we” means America because a lot of these dawns aren't the first ones. You talked about gene therapy. This is the second dawn of gene therapy. The first dawn came crashing into a halt in 1999 when a young man at the University of Pennsylvania died as a result of an error carried out by the treating physicians using what had seemed like a revolutionary gene therapy. It's the second dawn of AI after there was a lot of disappointment. There will be accidents . . .Let's just say, hypothetically, there's an accident . . . some kind of self-driving car is going to kill somebody or whatever. And let's say there's a political movement, the Luddites that is successful, and let's just say that every self-driving car in America is attacked and destroyed by mobs and that all of the companies that are making these cars are no longer able to produce or deploy those cars. That's going to be bad for self-driving cars in America — it's not going to be bad for self-driving cars. . . They're going to be developed in some other place. There are lots of societies that have lost their vitality. That's the story of every empire that we read about in history books: there was political corruption, sclerosis. That's very much an option.I'm a patriotic American and I hope America leads these revolutions as long as we can maintain our values for many, many centuries to come, but for that to happen, we need to invest in that. Part of that is investing now so that people don't feel that they are powerless victims of these trends they have no influence over.That's why all of my work is about engaging people in the conversation about how do we deploy these technologies? Because experts, scientists, even governments don't have any more authority to make these decisions about the future of our species than everybody else. What we need to do is have broad, inclusive conversations, engage people in all kinds of processes, including governance and political processes. That's why I write the books that I do. That's why I do podcast interviews like this. My Joe Rogan interviews have reached many tens of millions of people — I know you told me before that you're much bigger than Joe Rogan, so I imagine this interview will reach more than that.I'm quite aspirational.Yeah, but that's the name of the game. With my last book tour, in the same week I spoke to the top scientists at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and the seventh and eighth graders at the Solomon Schechter Hebrew Academy of New Jersey, and they asked essentially the exact same questions about the future of human genetic engineering. These are basic human questions that everybody can understand and everybody can and should play a role and have a voice in determining the big decisions and the future of our species.To what extent is the future you're talking about dependent on continued AI advances? If this is as good as it gets, does that change the outlook at all?One, there's no conceivable way that this is as good as it gets because even if the LLMs, large language models — it's not the last word on algorithms, there will be many other philosophies of algorithms, but let's just say that LLMs are the end of the road, that we've just figured out this one thing, and that's all we ever have. Just using the technologies that we have in more creative ways is going to unleash incredible progress. But it's certain that we will continue to have innovations across the field of computer science, in energy production, in algorithm development, in the ways that we have to generate and analyze massive data pools. So we don't need any more to have the revolution that's already started, but we will have more.Politics always, ultimately, can trump everything if we get it wrong. But even then, even if . . . let's just say that the United States becomes an authoritarian, totalitarian hellhole. One, there will be technological innovation like we're seeing now even in China, and two, these are decentralized technologies, so free people elsewhere — maybe it'll be Europe, maybe it'll be Africa or whatever — will deploy these technologies and use them. These are agnostic technologies. They don't have, as I said at the start, an inevitable outcome, and that's why the name of the game for us is to weave our best values into this journey.What is a “newnimal”? (30:11). . . we don't live in a state of nature, we live in a world that has been massively bio-engineered by our ancestors, and that's just the thing that we call life.When I was preparing for this interview and my research assistant was preparing, I said, “We have to have a question about bio-engineered new animals.” One, because I couldn't pronounce your name for these . . . newminals? So pronounce that name and tell me why we want these.It's a made up word, so you can pronounce it however you want. “Newnimals” is as good as anything.We already live in a world of bio-engineered animals. Go back 50,000 years, find me a dog, find me a corn that is recognizable, find me rice, find me wheat, find me a cow that looks remotely like the cow in your local dairy. We already live in that world, it's just people assume that our bioengineered world is some kind of state of nature. We already live in a world where the size of a broiler chicken has tripled over the last 70 years. What we have would have been unrecognizable to our grandparents.We are already genetically modifying animals through breeding, and now we're at the beginning of wanting to have whatever those same modifications are, whether it's producing more milk, producing more meat, living in hotter environments and not dying, or whatever it is that we're aiming for in these animals that we have for a very long time seen not as ends in themselves, but means to the alternate end of our consumption.We're now in the early stages xenotransplantation, modifying the hearts, and livers, and kidneys of pigs so they can be used for human transplantation. I met one of the women who has received — and seems to so far to be thriving — a genetically modified pig kidney. We have 110,000 people in the United States on the waiting list for transplant organs. I really want these people not just to survive, but to survive and thrive. That's another area we can grow.Right now . . . in the world, we slaughter about 93 billion land animals per year. We consume 200 million metric tons of fish. That's a lot of murder, that's a lot of risk of disease. It's a lot of deforestation and destruction of the oceans. We can already do this, but if and when we can grow bioidentical animal products at scale without having all of these negative externalities of whether it's climate change, environmental change, cruelty, deforestation, increased pandemic risk, what a wonderful thing to do!So we have these technologies and you mentioned that people are worried about them, but the reason people are worried about them is they're imagining that right now we live in some kind of unfettered state of nature and we're going to ruin it. But that's why I say we don't live in a state of nature, we live in a world that has been massively bio-engineered by our ancestors, and that's just the thing that we call life.Inspired by curiosity (33:42). . . the people who I love and most admire are the people who are just insatiably curious . . .What sort of forward thinkers, or futurists, or strategic thinkers of the past do you model yourself on, do you think are still worth reading, inspired you?Oh my God, so many, and the people who I love and most admire are the people who are just insatiably curious, who are saying, “I'm going to just look at the world, I'm going to collect data, and I know that everybody says X, but it may be true, it may not be true.” That is the entire history of science. That's Galileo, that's Charles Darwin, who just went around and said, “Hey, with an open mind, how am I going to look at the world and come up with theses?” And then he thought, “Oh s**t, this story that I'm coming up with for how life advances is fundamentally different from what everybody in my society believes and organizes their lives around.” Meaning, in my mind, that's the model, and there are so many people, and that's the great thing about being human.That's what's so exciting about this moment is that everybody has access to these super-empowered tools. We have eight billion humans, but about two billion of those people are just kind of locked out because of crappy education, and poor water sanitation, electricity. We're on the verge of having everybody who has a smartphone has the possibility of getting a world-class personalized education in their own language. How many new innovations will we have when little kids who were in slums in India, or in Pakistan, or in Nairobi, or wherever who have promise can educate themselves, and grow up and cure cancers, or invent new machines, or new algorithms. 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On this episode of Conversations with Tom, Jamie Hetzl talks about the future of genetic engineering, the moral questions surrounding it, and the kinds of values he hopes we uphold while charting the course of our own evolution. He and Tom also discuss culture wars, science fiction and the potential problems with immortality. [Original air date: 9-3-20]. SHOW NOTES: Jamie discusses his book Hacking Darwin and how we can now influence evolution [0:26] Jamie forecasts what we will evolve into a thousand years from now [2:20] Jamie tells the story of natural evolution [5:29] Jamie talks about how we will be able to eliminate genetic diseases [9:05] Real science that's happening now feels like science fiction [14:01] At first genetic modifications will seem shocking, but then they'll become normal [16:58] Do we really want natural people, or do we want steroids and genetic modifications? [19:56] Jamie tries to figure out where we should draw the line on genetic modification [23:53] Jamie discusses the moral difficulties with genetic modification [27:03] Jamie talks about to what extent we should protect people from themselves [31:30] Jamie advocates being conservative at first about genetic modification [35:19] Jamie and Tom discuss potential problems with gene editing [39:28] Jamie and Tom discuss the reality that we will have to embrace gene editing [44:00] Jamie discusses why we have to think collectively on a global level [51:20] Jamie talks about science fiction and changing definitions of “us” and “them” [55:35] Because the world is so complex rules may not work, but values still will [59:49] What should a written “constitution” of gene editing look like? [1:05:45] Jamie describes how genetic editing and selection might look in the future [1:12:01] Will we tend towards uniformity or diversity? [1:17:36] Jamie thinks immortality is not achievable in the physical bodies we have [1:22:25] Humans don't live forever because there are too many parts [1:25:25] Tom and Jamie discuss the connections between procreation and mortality [1:29:38] Should you slow down your metabolism? Should you freeze sperm? [1:35:27] FOLLOW JAMIE: WEBSITE: jamiemetzl.com/ INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/jamiemetzl/ FACEBOOK: facebook.com/jamiemetzlauthor/ TWITTER: twitter.com/JamieMetzl FOLLOW TOM: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tombilyeu/ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tombilyeu?lang=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/tombilyeu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TomBilyeu What's up, everybody? It's Tom Bilyeu here. If you're serious about leveling up your life, I urge you to check out my new podcast, Tom Bilyeu's Mindset Playbook —a goldmine of my most impactful episodes on mindset, business, and health. Trust me, your future self will thank you. LISTEN AD FREE + BONUS EPISODES on APPLE PODCASTS: apple.co/impacttheory Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Meet the Media Guru with Jamie Metzl. Jamie Metzl è una figura di spicco nel panorama mondiale della genetica, dell'IA e delle biotecnologie e delle implicazioni che esse determinano. Ha contribuito a fondare il WisdomTree BioRevolution Fund di cui è lo Special Strategist; fa parte dei comitati consultivi di Exponential Medicine, Genomic Prediction, Harvard Medical School Preventive Genomics, Lake Nona Impact Forum, NextMed Health, Dubai Future Forum e Future of Retail Policy Lab di Walmart. Ha pubblicato il bestseller Hacking Darwin e il suo nuovo libro Superconvergence: How the Genetics, Biotech, and AI Revolutions Will Transform Our Lives, Work, and World sarà disponibile nel maggio 2024.Dell'incontro sono disponibili il video e le immagini qui: https://www.fondazionebassetti.org/archi_vivo/2024/04/riscrivere_il_tempo

"Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity"

Welcome to FOMO Sapiens, the podcast about entrepreneurial thinkers who don't just follow the crowd, but instead take their own path to success in business and in life. In this episode, host Patrick J. McGinnis is joined by Jamie Metzl, a technology and healthcare futurist, geopolitical expert, and author of "Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity." In a captivating conversation, we dive into the content of Jamie's groundbreaking book, discussing how genetic engineering is about to drastically alter the future of our species. Jamie elucidates the current state of genetic science, the ethical dilemmas arising from it, and what these innovations might mean for the future of humanity. The discussion touches on topics like CRISPR, gene editing, designer babies, and the societal implications of these advancements. Jamie explains how these innovations could revolutionize healthcare, longevity, and even our evolutionary trajectory, all while discussing the ethical conundrums and potential risks that accompany such progress. Whether you're a science enthusiast, an entrepreneur in the healthcare space, or simply interested in understanding how genetic engineering could shape our future, this episode is a fascinating journey through the genetic frontier. Join us and let Jamie Metzl's "Hacking Darwin" open your eyes to the potential and the challenges of our genetically-engineered future. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are we entering a ‘newgenic' age - where cutting-edge technologies and the power of personal choice could achieve the kind of genetic perfection that 20th century eugenicists were after? In 2018, a Chinese scientist illegally attempted to precision edit the genome of two embryos. It didn't work as intended. Twin sisters - Lulu and Nana - were later born, but their identity, and the status of their health, is shrouded in secrecy. They were the first designer babies. Other technological developments are also coming together in ways that could change reproduction: IVF can produce multiple viable embryos, and polygenic screening could be used to select between them. Increased understanding and control of our genetics is seen as a threat by some - an inevitable force for division. But instead of allowing genetics to separate and rank people, perhaps there's a way it can be used - actively - to promote equality. Professor Paige Harden shares her suggestion of an anti-eugenic politics which makes use of genetic information Contributors: Dr Helen O'Neill, lecturer in Reproductive and Molecular Genetics at University College London, Dr Jamie Metzl, author of Hacking Darwin, Professor Kathryn Paige Harden from the University of Texas and author of The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality.

Are we entering a ‘newgenic' age - where cutting-edge technologies and the power of personal choice could achieve the kind of genetic perfection that 20th century eugenicists were after? In 2018, a Chinese scientist illegally attempted to precision edit the genome of two embryos. It didn't work as intended. Twin sisters - Lulu and Nana - were later born, but their identity, and the status of their health, is shrouded in secrecy. They were the first designer babies. Other technological developments are also coming together in ways that could change reproduction: IVF can produce multiple viable embryos, and polygenic screening could be used to select between them. Increased understanding and control of our genetics is seen as a threat by some - an inevitable force for division. But instead of allowing genetics to separate and rank people, perhaps there's a way it can be used - actively - to promote equality. Professor Paige Harden shares her suggestion of an anti-eugenic politics which makes use of genetic information. Contributors: Dr Helen O'Neill, lecturer in Reproductive and Molecular Genetics at University College London, Dr Jamie Metzl, author of Hacking Darwin, Professor Kathryn Paige Harden from the University of Texas and author of The Genetic Lottery: Why DNA Matters for Social Equality. Music and Sound design: Jon Nicholls Presenter: Adam Rutherford Producer: Ilan Goodman Clips: 28th Nov 2018 - BBC Newsday report, BBC Breakfast News / BBC Breakfast news report Chinese letter of condemnation / BBC Newsnight from 1988 on 10th anniversary of Louise Brown's birth

This week: Space X sends some rich dudes into space, scientists make old skin young again, why a crypto billionaire drives a Corolla, how Richard Dawkins helped a jihadi become an atheist, and Darwin's stolen notebooks are returned!SPACEXSpaceX has sent 4 rich businessmen to the ISS!And, when I say, rich, I don't mean your great uncle who has a boat and flies premium economy - I'm talking Scrooge McDuck rich.While it's not clear exactly how much they paid, Axiom Space, the private startup that's coordinating these flights, have previously said that tickets are about 55 MILLION US DOLLARS.The crew of four blasted off in the Crew Dragon Capsule on Saturday, and were welcomed onto the ISS the next day, where they will stay for eight days conducting science experiments, breaking bread with the professional astronauts already there, and enjoying the incredible views of our Earth.The crew is headed by a former NASA astronaut and current AXIOM employee, a real estate tycoon, a shipping CEO and former fighter-pilot slash businessman.This is no doubt just the start of a burgeoning space tourism industry, that maybe one day, our great, great, great grandkids will be able to enjoy once it becomes affordable for us plebs.YOUNG SKINHave you enjoyed enough beers and ciggies in the sun that your skin's looking like beef jerky?Don't worry about putting in the hard work to change your lifestyle - that's old fashioned. Just get your skin rejuvenated with delicious, nutritious stem cells!Scientists at the Babraham Institute in Cambridge recently collected skin cell samples from three human donors that had an average age of around 50, then exposed the cells to Yamanaka factors for just 13 days to partially anti-age the cells. They then removed the Yamanaka factors and left the cells to grow.⁠The team found that the epigenetic clock of the cells matched the profiles of skin cells that belonged to people who were 30 years younger!So, what are these magical Yamanaka factors? They're the four specialist molecules that reverse cell development, and were discovered in 2007 by Shinya Yamanaka at Kyoto University.Do you love genetics? Check out our two most popular books on genetics at the Think Inc. shop: ‘Hacking Darwin' by Jamie Metzl and ‘Lifespan' by David Sinclair. Both are available at the link in our bio.CRYPTO PHILANTHROPISTWhat would you do if you were a young billionaire? You'd treat yourself to some nice wheels, a fancy mansion, maybe start a YouTube channel showing off your lifestyle…Not 30-year-old Sam Bankman-Fried. His net worth is estimated at around $20 billion which he generated over just a few years as CEO of crypto exchange FTX, but he still drives a Corolla!Why? He says you very quickly run out of exciting ways to spend your money!But he's found a way to make use of his fat stacks- all thanks to our mate Peter Singer. Sam, like countless others, read Peter Singer's philosophy as a teenager and was forever changed by it.First he became passionate about reducing animal suffering, and then he got into effective altruism, which is all about reducing human suffering. Since then he's been giving at least half of his salary to effective causes, which is very inspiring.If you want to be inspired by Peter's work, grab a copy of one of his most influential books on effective altruism, ‘The Most Good You Can Do', from our shop.And if you're into philosophical ethics, check out our Think Inc. Academy course starting next month! More info at the link in our bio.ISIS TO ATHEISM From jihadi to atheist- this is the story of Musa Cerantonio.Musa, now going by his birth name of Robert, grew up in Melbourne to Italian parents. He had a pretty average upbringing, but went on to become one of Australia's most notorious jihadis, inspiring young people to join ISIS through his activism and preaching.In 2016, Robert was sent to Port Phillip prison where he's been ever since- until he's released next year.While some inmates become more radical or violent in jail- he's the opposite, and that's thanks to two special and surprising figures: Richard Dawkins and Alexander the Great.While in jail, Robert read ‘The God Delusion', and like many of us, it made him a full blown atheist. As for Alexander the Great- well, that story is a bit more complicated. You'll have to read about it in Graeme Wood's recent article in The Atlantic- it's absolutely fascinating.Once you've finished reading that- grab yourself a signed copy of Dawkins' ‘Science in the Soul' at our shop, and we'll send it off to you, even if you're in jail! We don't judge here.DARWINIAN EASTER MYSTERYIt's Good Friday tomorrow, but librarians had a fantastic Wednesday last month when they were finally returned two missing notebooks belonging to the late Charles Darwin.In 2000 some asshole stole Darwin's notebooks from the Special Collections vault at Cambridge University library. One of the books contained Darwin's famous “tree of life” sketch which shows his earliest theory on the origin of species.For many years the librarians thought the books had simply been misplaced. But in 2020 they completed an in-depth search, including fingertip examinations, which led them to believe the books had most likely been stolen.After pleading to the public for info, just last month the books were returned wrapped in a pink gift bag and with a plain brown envelope with the message:Librarian, Happy Easter, signed XIs this just one massive troll? Is it an angry Christian trolling an Atheist icon? We don't know, but we will be watching this Darwinian Easter Mystery very closely as the police continue their investigations.---That's all for this week. Hopefully we'll catch you at our Brian Greene tour which kicks off in June, or at one of our upcoming Think Inc. Academy courses that start back up next month!Find more information at the link in our bio. See you next time!Sign up to our newsletter → bit.ly/think-sign-up

According to Jamie Metzl, in the future, people will be looking at this time as the era when earthly life entered a new paradigm. A paradigm where one species, homo sapiens, learned to manipulate the code of life and take evolution into its own hands. From today onwards, it's only a matter of time and effort when future generations of species, including us humans, will be born with traits that we humans have genetically manipulated them to have. These traits potentially include everything from the removal of genetic diseases to eye color, height and even IQ. We will have the ability to create and manipulate life, like the gods of our mythologies. But are we mere humans ready for such a tool? You are invited to listen. Jamie Metzl is a futurist, author, media commentator, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, World Health Organization adviser, former NSC director in the Clinton administration, endurance athlete, and more (believe it or not). Some of you might have encountered him on the Joe Rogan Experience, or other prominent podcasts. Some of you might have read his high-profile public calls for an open investigation of the origins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Some of you might know him from his books, including Hacking Darwin, which discusses genetic engineering and the future of humanity. Jamie's website: https://jamiemetzl.com Hacking Darwin: https://hackingdarwin.com One Shared World: https://oneshared.world --- Valaisusetti: bit.ly/30vMf53 Kamera: bit.ly/3lRXY64 --- ▶️ Jaksot videon kera Youtubesta: http://www.youtube.com/c/Futucastpodcast

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This week we talk hacking genetics, China's video games / social crackdown and after our non-sponsor turn to This Week in Crypto. Then in a new NFT segment we cover: Loot, Steph Curry buys a Bored Ape, dynamic sports NFTs starting with LaMelo, mutating Ape NFTs; and Meebits in the movies, at Christie's and in Decentraland. We close out with CryptoPunk or CryptoFunk. Links we mentioned: Hacking Darwin by Jamie Metzl https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07QWNMY86/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_DM1WQ7BPZKQ32PR4TY07 The deVOL Bum Stool: https://www.devolkitchens.co.uk/shop/stools-chairs-tables/bum-stool United Wholesale Mortgage to accept bitcoin: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/8150026002 Steph Curry Ape purchase: https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/115911/nba-icon-stephen-curry-buys-bored-ape-nft-for-180000 LaMelo Ball dynamic NFT linked to sports results: https://lameloball.io/#/ Mutating Bored Apes: https://decrypt.co/79718/bored-ape-yacht-club-sells-96-million-of-nfts-in-hour-for-mutant-apes-launch United Talent Artists signs Larva Labs (CryptoPunks) https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/uta-cryptopunks-nft-film-tv-vieo-games-1235005392/amp/ Christie's Hong Kong Meebits Auction: https://www.christies.com/en/auction/auction-20909-hgk MeebitsDao Dissect The Dissected event results: https://twitter.com/meebitsdao/status/1433543392542150659?s=21 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/smalltimebets/support

What started the pushback against the Wuhan "lab leak" theory? This episode investigates the origins of coronavirus with the best-selling author and biohacker, Jamie Metzl. Despite enduring the COVID pandemic for over a year, the question remains - how and why did Covid 19 begin? At the time of this upload, The World Health Organization's (WHO) investigation into the origins of Covid-19 has said that a laboratory leak is the least likely hypothesis. Today's guest Jamie Metzl, fresh off of his recent Joe Rogan appearance isn't convinced. We also discussed Biohacking, Gene editing, and North Korea. This conversation went all over the place but to be clear, conspiracy theories don't interest me, I don't follow politics, and I have no interest in blaming others for the pandemic. That being said, I feel deeply uncomfortable and anxious knowing that if we don't figure out how this all started, it will happen again in our lifetime. That's something I'm not sure I can live through again. Jamie Metzl is a former National Security analyst. I found Jamie's work via his brilliant book - Hacking Darwin. He's had a popular Ted Talk, spoken at Google Headquarters, and has had many appearances on major platforms including The Joe Rogan Experience, The Portal with Eric Weinstein, and Impact Theory with Tom Bilyeu just to name a few. This episode was recorded on January 31st, 2021. Win a PlayStation 5: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClI47mgefRuLsOElux1HXjA If this talk interested you, feel free to read Jamie's open letter on fully investigating the origins of COVID-19 here: https://jamiemetzl.com/open-letter-on-fully-investigating-the-origins-of-covid-19/ Connect with Takis: https://www.instagram.com/petertakis/ https://www.instagram.com/welcomehome.podcast/ https://twitter.com/petertakis https://www.takismusic.com/ Contact Takis: welcomehometakis@gmail.com Takis (real name Peter Takis) is a DJ/ producer from Winnipeg, Canada.

In the Moment: March 23, 2021 Show 1014. The open Legislature we know today - every bill gets a hearing, and always in public - wasn't always so. Terry Woster (who coverd the state Capitol for four decades) and others explain how closed the Legislature once was, and how it got opened up in Seth Tupper's latest Why is That? In Their Own Words brings us a bill (SB 166) that revises provisions regarding hate crimes by identifying additional groups to a list of those subject to hate crime prosecution. Yesterday, Governor Noem implied Title IX is under attack and proposed a coalition be build to protect fairness in women's sports. Sarah Axelson, senior director at the Women's Sports Foundation, explains what Title IX is and isn't. Is the pandemic supercharging future advancements in public health, vaccine development, and genetics? Do we have the regulatory framework to deploy these advances fairly, ethically, and wisely? Jamie Metzl is a futurist and the author of the book "Hacking Darwin.

Los seres humanos hemos venido alterando el mundo que nos rodea por muchos milenios. La ciencia de la genética humana ha avanzado muy rápidamente últimamente. En este episodio abordamos el libro "Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity" de Jamie Metzl. Grandes personajes en este proceso de descubrimiento son Charles Darwin con su libro el Origen de las Especies y Gregor Mendel, entre otros. James Watson, Francisc Crick, Rosalind Franklin y Mauricie Wilkins identificaron el ADN en 1953 y desde ahí han existido grandes avances sobre cómo secuenciarlo y manipularlo. En los años 70 Frederick Sanger y Alan Coulson inventaron una forma de secuenciar el genoma humano (ya en 2020 esto se ha vuelto muchísimo más barato de lo que era hace 50 años).

Thoughts on Hacking Darwin and then I let the thoughts freestyle

Jamie Metzl is a technology and healthcare futurist, geopolitics expert, and the author of “Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity.” He is the smartest, craziest, and most interesting guy that I've ever interviewed — really, he's who I hope to be when I grow up — and he paints a vision of the future that is both more informed and more hopeful than most. Jamie previously served in the U.S. National Security Council, State Department, Senate Foreign Relations Committee and as a Human Rights Officer for the United Nations in Cambodia, and in February 2019, he was appointed to the World Health Organization expert advisory committee on developing global standards for the governance and oversight of human genome editing. This dude knows his stuff, he knows how to have fun, and I can't think of a better way to end the very weird year than by imagining a better future. In This Conversation We Cover:  [04:35] How Jamie's life was shaped by hearing his dad's story of fleeng Nazi Europe [13:00] Nature, nurture, and fate [17:40] What does a Human Rights Officer do? [20:35] What are you trying to accomplish working with all of these different governmental and non-governmental organisations? [28:20] What was your motivation behind writing "The Depths of the Sea,” a historical novel? [31:28] Why write “Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity?” [35:15] Why do people get freaked out when AI is mentioned and are their fears warranted? [38:20] What are your thoughts on putting technology inside of the human body? [52:18] Rapid fire round Resources: jamiemetzl.com oneshared.world Twitter: @JamieMetzl LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jamie-metzl-8a4a3610 “Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity” by Jamie Metzl “The Depths of the Sea” by Jamie Metzl Mastermind: workhardplayhardpodcast.com/mastermind Connect with us on Instagram: @kimmurgatroyd | @robmurgatroyd Virtual mastermind: workhardplayhard90.com The Push Journal To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: workhardplayhardpodcast.com Work Hard Play Hard is a production of Crate Media

Jamie Metzl is a technology and healthcare futurist, geopolitics expert, and the author of https://hackingdarwin.com/ (“Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity.”) He is the smartest, craziest, and most interesting guy that I’ve ever interviewed — really, he’s who I hope to be when I grow up — and he paints a vision of the future that is both more informed and more hopeful than most. Jamie previously served in the U.S. National Security Council, State Department, Senate Foreign Relations Committee and as a Human Rights Officer for the United Nations in Cambodia, and in February 2019, he was appointed to the World Health Organization expert advisory committee on developing global standards for the governance and oversight of human genome editing. This dude knows his stuff, he knows how to have fun, and I can’t think of a better way to end the very weird year than by imagining a better future. In This Conversation We Cover:  [04:35] How Jamie’s life was shaped by hearing his dad’s story of fleeng Nazi Europe [13:00] Nature, nurture, and fate [17:40] What does a Human Rights Officer do? [20:35] What are you trying to accomplish working with all of these different governmental and non-governmental organisations? [28:20] What was your motivation behind writing https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/912734.The_Depths_of_the_Sea ("The Depths of the Sea,”) a historical novel? [31:28] Why write https://hackingdarwin.com/ (“Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity)?” [35:15] Why do people get freaked out when AI is mentioned and are their fears warranted? [38:20] What are your thoughts on putting technology inside of the human body? [52:18] Rapid fire round Resources: https://jamiemetzl.com (jamiemetzl.com) https://oneshared.world/ (oneshared.world) Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl (@JamieMetzl) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-metzl-8a4a3610/ (linkedin.com/in/jamie-metzl-8a4a3610) https://hackingdarwin.com/ (“Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity”) by Jamie Metzl https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/912734.The_Depths_of_the_Sea (“The Depths of the Sea”) by Jamie Metzl Mastermind: https://workhardplayhardpodcast.com/mastermind/ (workhardplayhardpodcast.com/mastermind) Connect with us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kimmurgatroyd/ (@kimmurgatroyd) | https://www.instagram.com/robmurgatroyd/ (@robmurgatroyd) Virtual mastermind: http://workhardplayhard90.com (workhardplayhard90.com) https://pushjournal.com/?mbsy_source=d8f18da2-10d5-4a98-b85c-9bdabad61ee5&mbsy_exp=Thu%2C+12+Dec+2019+20%3A36%3A32+GMT&campaignid=35053&mbsy=BTPZC (The Push Journal) To learn more, and for the complete show notes, visit: https://workhardplayhardpodcast.com/ (workhardplayhardpodcast.com) Work Hard Play Hard is a production of http://crate.media (Crate Media)

Futurist Jamie Metzl, author of “Hacking Darwin”, thinks a lot about gene editing, geopolitics and the future of science. On this episode of Conversations with Tom, Jamie Hetzl talks about the future of genetic engineering, the moral questions surrounding it, and the kinds of values he hopes we uphold while charting the course of our own evolution. He and Tom also discuss culture wars, science fiction and the potential problems with immortality. This episode is brought to you by: Skillshare: Explore your creativity at skillshare.com/impacttheory for 2 free months of Premium Membership. KiwiCo: Get your FIRST MONTH FREE on select crates at kiwico.com/IMPACT SHOW NOTES:   Jamie discusses his book Hacking Darwin and how we can now influence evolution [0:26] Jamie forecasts what we will evolve into a thousand years from now [2:20] Jamie tells the story of natural evolution [5:29] Jamie talks about how we will be able to eliminate genetic diseases [9:05] Real science that’s happening now feels like science fiction [14:01] At first genetic modifications will seem shocking, but then they’ll become normal [16:58] Do we really want natural people, or do we want steroids and genetic modifications? [19:56] Jamie tries to figure out where we should draw the line on genetic modification [23:53] Jamie discusses the moral difficulties with genetic modification [27:03] Jamie talks about to what extent we should protect people from themselves [31:30] Jamie advocates being conservative at first about genetic modification [35:19] Jamie and Tom discuss potential problems with gene editing [39:28] Jamie and Tom discuss the reality that we will have to embrace gene editing [44:00] Jamie discusses why we have to think collectively on a global level [51:20] Jamie talks about science fiction and changing definitions of “us” and “them” [55:35] Because the world is so complex rules may not work, but values still will [59:49] What should a written “constitution” of gene editing look like? [1:05:45] Jamie describes how genetic editing and selection might look in the future [1:12:01] Will we tend towards uniformity or diversity? [1:17:36] Jamie thinks immortality is not achievable in the physical bodies we have [1:22:25] Humans don’t live forever because there are too many parts [1:25:25] Tom and Jamie discuss the connections between procreation and mortality [1:29:38] Should you slow down your metabolism? Should you freeze sperm? [1:35:27]   FOLLOW JAMIE:   WEBSITE: jamiemetzl.com/ INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/jamiemetzl/ FACEBOOK: facebook.com/jamiemetzlauthor/ TWITTER: twitter.com/JamieMetzl

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A mini-podcast book review of Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity by Jamie Metzl

As the world continues to grapple with the surge in coronavirus deaths and how best to protect their citizens and economy, Jamie Metzl, adviser for the World Health Organization and author of "Hacking Darwin", joins Christiane Amanpour. He reflects on President Donald Trump's announcement that he will pull funding from the WHO. He says that Trump is trying to rewrite history with this shocking move made during the coronavirus pandemic. Margaret MacMillan, the historian and author, highlights that it is essential countries work together at this time of crisis. She unpacks the implications of Covid-19 on international relations and our world leaders. As criticism of President Trump mounts, the Democrats are presenting a united front, with former president Barack Obama joining the string of endorsements for Democratic nominee Joe Biden. Tom Perez, chair of the Democratic National Committee, speaks about these latest developments in his U.S. politics. Cyrus Habib, Lt. Governor of Washington, discusses their success containing the coronavirus and why he isn't standing for re-election in November.

Jamie Metzl (US) is auteur van Hacking Darwin, technologie futurist en een expert in geopolitieke verhoudingen. Hij is senior fellow van het Atlantic Council. Eerder werkte hij bij de U.S. National Security Council, de Senate Foreign Relations Committee en voor de Verenigde Naties in Cambodja. In dit Engelstalige interview praten we over genetica, genetische modificatie & met name beleid hieromtrent zowel lokaal, nationaal als globaal. De shownotes staan op https://biohackingimpact.nl/jamie-metzl

Former National Security analyst turned author Jamie Metzel has written a book called Hacking Darwin. The book attempts to use storytelling to explore where we are as the new era of rewriting our cells and ourselves gets into full swing. Here he sits down with Eric to explore the negatives and positives of our seemingly ineluctable future of God-like power to rewrite biology. Together they discuss the role of story telling and fiction in understanding cutting edge science, the limits of bio-hacking regulation and the rise of mainland China as the outlying superpower of state sponsored experimentation.  Thank you to our sponsors: Personna Razors: Amazon.com/personna Code RAZORS25 Express VPN: Expressvpn.com/PORTAL Boll and Branch: BollAndBranch.com and use code PORTAL Lamps Plus: lampsplus.com/PORTAL See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this special edition of thinkspot Presents, author and futurologist Jamie Metzl presents the virtual launch of his recently revised book Hacking Darwin. He is joined in discussion by famed geneticist Dr. George Church, physician-scientist Dr. Daniel Kraft, and Harvard Business School professor Debora Spar, as the group unpacks the current COVID-19 situation and its implications for health innovation in a post pandemic world.

WHO Expert on coronavirus: “Most serious pandemic to hit the world in many decades” ~ Jamie Metzel, Author HACKING DARWIN

Everything is changing all the time. So how do we keep up? How do we learn to stay ahead of the future? That's what Jamie Metzl is here to tell us. Jamie is a tech futurist, self-taught genomics expert, economist and the bestselling author of "Hacking Darwin," which is all about genetic engineering and "the frontiers of biology." But what's most important here is that Jamie didn't go to school for genomics. He's self-taught. And he skipped the line by be self-taught AND a skilled sci-fi writer. Combining both made his book his #1. And opened the doors to new opportunities. That's what learning is about. So I ask Jamie to teach me how he learns. So we can be better learners, too. I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast. Thanks so much for listening! If you like this episode, please subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" and rate and review wherever you get your podcasts: Apple Podcasts Stitcher iHeart Radio Spotify Follow me on Social Media: YouTube Twitter Facebook Linkedin Instagram Check Out The Altucher Book Club Series: Apple Podcasts YouTube Instagram ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn

Everything is changing all the time. So how do we keep up? How do we learn to stay ahead of the future? That's what Jamie Metzl is here to tell us. Jamie is a tech futurist, self-taught genomics expert, economist and the bestselling author of "Hacking Darwin," which is all about genetic engineering and "the frontiers of biology." But what's most important here is that Jamie didn't go to school for genomics. He's self-taught. And he skipped the line by be self-taught AND a skilled sci-fi writer. Combining both made his book his #1. And opened the doors to new opportunities. That's what learning is about. So I ask Jamie to teach me how he learns. So we can be better learners, too. I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast. Thanks so much for listening! If you like this episode, please subscribe to “The James Altucher Show” and rate and review wherever you get your podcasts: Apple Podcasts Stitcher iHeart Radio Spotify   Follow me on Social Media: YouTube Twitter Facebook Linkedin Instagram   Check Out The Altucher Book Club Series: Apple Podcasts YouTube Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you could would you choose the traits of your future kid would you? Eye color? Athletic ability? Their IQ? What about the ethics of it all?  Now, what if you could take away ANY possibility of your child ever getting any sort of cancer or illness? Would it change your mind then? Will genetically engineering your kid be a thing of the future or become the new normal? In the latest episode of the Fad or Future podcast, Joey Thurman interviews Dr. Jamie Metzl, the author of Hacking Darwin. He discusses the future of the human race itself! - Take a listen to the entire episode and let us know what you think! https://instagram.com/jamiemetzl?igshid=10oxz15bod66m https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl Instagram.com/Joeythurmanfit  HackingDarwin.com JamieMetzl.com  Fadorfuture.com JoeyThurman.com

Jamie Metzl joins Corey and Steve to discuss his new book, Hacking Darwin. They discuss detailed predictions for the progress in genomic technology, particularly in human reproduction, over the coming decade: genetic screening of embryos will become commonplace, gene-editing may become practical and more widely accepted, stem cell technology may allow creation of unlimited numbers of eggs and embryos. Metzl is a Technology Futurist, Geopolitics Expert, and Sci-Fi Novelist. He was appointed to the World Health Organization expert advisory committee governance and oversight of human genome editing. Jamie previously served in the U.S. National Security Council, State Department, Senate Foreign Relations Committee and as a Human Rights Officer for the United Nations in Cambodia. He holds a Ph.D. in Southeast Asian history from Oxford University and a J.D. from Harvard Law School.Resources Transcript Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity Jamie Metzl's Personal Website

Jamie Metzl joins Corey and Steve to discuss his new book, Hacking Darwin. They discuss detailed predictions for the progress in genomic technology, particularly in human reproduction, over the coming decade: genetic screening of embryos will become commonplace, gene-editing may become practical and more widely accepted, stem cell technology may allow creation of unlimited numbers of eggs and embryos. Metzl is a Technology Futurist, Geopolitics Expert, and Sci-Fi Novelist. He was appointed to the World Health Organization expert advisory committee governance and oversight of human genome editing. Jamie previously served in the U.S. National Security Council, State Department, Senate Foreign Relations Committee and as a Human Rights Officer for the United Nations in Cambodia. He holds a Ph.D. in Southeast Asian history from Oxford University and a J.D. from Harvard Law School.

Jamie Metzl joins Corey and Steve to discuss his new book, Hacking Darwin. They discuss detailed predictions for the progress in genomic technology, particularly in human reproduction, over the coming decade: genetic screening of embryos will become commonplace, gene-editing may become practical and more widely accepted, stem cell technology may allow creation of unlimited numbers of eggs and embryos. Metzl is a Technology Futurist, Geopolitics Expert, and Sci-Fi Novelist. He was appointed to the World Health Organization expert advisory committee governance and oversight of human genome editing. Jamie previously served in the U.S. National Security Council, State Department, Senate Foreign Relations Committee and as a Human Rights Officer for the United Nations in Cambodia. He holds a Ph.D. in Southeast Asian history from Oxford University and a J.D. from Harvard Law School.Resources Transcript Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity Jamie Metzl's Personal Website

Jamie Metzl (@JamieMetzl) is a technology futurist and geopolitical expert, entrepreneur, media commentator, Senior Fellow of the Atlantic Council, and author of Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity. What We Discuss with Jamie Metzl: Why the speed at which genetic engineering is progressing is akin to Neil Armstrong stepping foot on the moon just six years after the first flight of the Wright brothers. Why the genetic traits that seem universally beneficial to us today may turn out to be as ephemeral (and useful to humanity) as powdered wigs and skinny jeans. The danger our species faces when we're able to selectively edit out genes that cause disorders without fully understanding their potential benefits or evolutionary purpose (e.g., recessive sickle cell disease carriers' resistance to malaria). Why China — run by a government that values the good of the country over the rights and privacy of its citizens — is better poised than the US and other Western countries to excel in the application of genetic science. Why addressing the values of equity and diversity today is important for avoiding genetic stagnation and greater friction between the haves and have-nots of tomorrow. And much more… Full show notes and resources can be found here: https://jordanharbinger.com/253 Sign up for Six-Minute Networking — our free networking and relationship development mini course — at jordanharbinger.com/course! Zoom video conferencing lets you connect, face-to-face with anyone — across town or around the world — with flawless video, clear audio, and instant sharing of files through any device. Visit Zoom online and set up a free account today! Need custom graphics, logos, or Web design? Access a community of 600,000+ designers by registering at designcrowd.com/jordan and enjoy up to $100 off with The Jordan Harbinger Show bonus offer! Better Help offers affordable, online counseling at your convenience. If you're coping with depression, stress, anxiety, addiction, or any number of issues, you're not alone. Talk with a licensed professional therapist for 10 percent off your first month at betterhelp.com/jordan! Got cats? Breathe easy when maintaining the litter box with Arm & Hammer's Cloud Control dander shield technology. Plus get the confidence of guaranteed seven-day odor control. Find it in a store near you or learn more about it here!

Scientists are on the brink of creating super humans that are stronger than Chris Evans and faster than Usain Bolt. But should we? Jamie Metzl, author of the book “Hacking Darwin,” joins Nick to discuss the future of gene editing, why eradicating disease could ruin our ability to create art, and how China could be using CRISPR to breed a terrifying new type of super soldier. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Jamie Metzl – Episode 694 Hacking Darwin is one of the best reads of the year, hands down! Find my detailed cribbed notes from this book here What are a few key points- Life/Birth–> Understanding the backstory,,why is this important Growth/Self-Improvement–> Aging Better Living better Performing Avoiding illness Food/GMO s/Environment/Population growth Epigenetics Please listen to […] The post Jamie Metzl-Genetic Engineering; Future of Humanity appeared first on Boomers Rock.

Will AI-assisted IVF be the new normal when it comes to having smarter and healthier children? This, and other provocative questions are at the heart of Jamie Metzl’s brilliant new book, ‘Hacking Darwin’, which argues that we are at the dawn of a new genetics revolution. In Jamie’s view, our DNA is becoming as readable, writable, and hackable as our information technology. What will this mean for humanity as we start to reengineer our own genetic code and radically change our lifespan and capabilities?

Will AI-assisted IVF be the new normal when it comes to having smarter and healthier children? This, and other provocative questions are at the heart of Jamie Metzl’s brilliant new book, ‘Hacking Darwin’, which argues that we are at the dawn of a new genetics revolution. In Jamie’s view, our DNA is becoming as readable, writable, and hackable as our information technology. What will this mean for humanity as we start to reengineer our own genetic code and radically change our lifespan and capabilities?

Futurist, Geopolitical Expert, Writer and White House Fellow, Jamie Metzl is one of the more brilliant people I've ever had the pleasure of interviewing. We chopped it up GOOD and talked about everything from his new book Hacking Darwin, what visiting North Korea is like and why sex will eventually be obsolete.

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In this episode, we talk about genetic engineering and the future of our species as we enter these uncharted territories. Our guest is Jamie Metzl, a technology futurist and Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council. In his latest book, Hacking Darwin : Genetic Revolution and the Future of Humanity, he explores all the ways in which the Human-led rewriting of our genetic code is about to shake the very foundation of our Humanity. Sit back and listen on!      

Technology futurist and geopolitical expert, Jamie Metzl discusses the genetic revolution that will transform healthcare, the way we make babies, and our evolution as a species. Guest Biography Jamie Metzl is a technology futurist and geopolitical expert, novelist, entrepreneur, media commentator, and Senior Fellow of the Atlantic Council. In February 2019, he was appointed to the World Health Organization expert advisory committee on developing global standards for the governance and oversight of human genome editing. Jamie previously served in the U.S. National Security Council, State Department, Senate Foreign Relations Committee and as a Human Rights Officer for the United Nations in Cambodia. He is a former Partner of a New York-based global investment firm, serves on the Advisory Council to Walmart’s Future of Retail Policy Lab, is a faculty member for Singularity University’s Exponential Medicine conference, was Chief Strategy Officer for a biotechnology company, and ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. House of Representatives from Missouri’s Fifth Congressional District in Kansas City in 2004. Jamie has served as an election monitor in Afghanistan and the Philippines, advised the government of North Korea on the establishment of Special Economic Zones, and is the Honorary Ambassador to North America of the Korean Ministry of Trade, Industry, and Energy. Jamie appears regularly on national and international media discussing Asian economic and political issues and his syndicated columns and other writing on Asian affairs, genetics, virtual reality, and other topics are featured regularly in publications around the world. He is the author of a history of the Cambodian genocide, the historical novel The Depths of the Sea, and the genetics thrillers Genesis Code and Eternal Sonata. His non-fiction book Hacking Darwin: Genetic Revolution and the Future of Humanity, published by Sourcebooks, can be purchased here. A founder and Co-Chair of the national security organization Partnership for a Secure America, Jamie is a board member of the International Center for Transitional Justice and the American University in Mongolia, and a member of the Advisory Board of the Brandeis International Center for Ethics, Justice, and Public Life. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations is a former White House Fellow and Aspen Institute Crown Fellow. Jamie holds a Ph.D. in Asian history from Oxford, a JD from Harvard Law School, and is a magna cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa graduate of Brown University. Jamie speaks frequently to corporate, nonprofit, and academic audiences around the world. Show notes: http://www.inspiredmoney.fm/095 In this episode, you will learn: Why Jamie thinks most of us are wasting our time, and major trends that he believes we should be paying attention to. Learn about biohacking, how the paradigm of healthcare could be changing, and the tools of the genetic revolution. We'll talk about ethics and the role that China plays in genetics, artificial intelligence, technology and more. Find more from our guest: jamiemetzl.com hackingdarwin.com Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Mentioned in this episode: Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity by Jamie Metzl Genesis Code: A Thriller of the Near Future by Jamie Metzl Eternal Sonata: A Thriller of the Near Future by Jamie Metzl The Depths of the Sea by Jamie Metzl Western Responses to Human Rights Abuses in Cambodia, 1975–80 by Jamie Metzl Richard A. Clarke Jennifer Doudna of the "CRISPR revolution" Game of Thrones Battle Star Galactica Cobra Kai Joe Rogan Experience #1294 - Jamie Metzl Jamie Metzl: "Hacking Darwin" | Talks at Google Are You Ready for the Genetic Revolution? | Jamie Metzl | TEDxPaloAlto Kim Kardashian Kanye West  Runnymede Money Tip of the Week: Three money saving fitness tips Thanks for Listening! To share your thoughts: Leave a note in the comment section below. Share this show on Twitter or Facebook. Join us at the Inspired Money Makers groups at facebook and LinkedIn To help out the show: Leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help, and I read each one. Email me your address, and I'll mail you an autographed copy of Kimo West and Ken Emerson's CD, Slackers in Paradise. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts. Special thanks to Jim Kimo West for the music.

The future is here, but will it be kind? Designer DNA is the way of the future. Should we be more skeptical? How does divine creation and God factor into the new era 'genetics race'? Author Jamie Metzl joins the show to discuss his new book, Hacking Darwin.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The genetics revolution that will transform our healthcare, the way we make babies, the nature of the babies we make, and ultimately our evolution as a species has already begun. It will arrive far sooner than most of us think and will transform our lives and the world around us in ways we can hardly imagine - and we aren't ready. If you have a sense that the genetics revolution is important but recognize you need to know more about what’s happening, what’s at stake, what this means for you, and what you should be doing now to prepare. Could this be the most important book of our generation?

In this episode Sourdough and Kelly Vaught from BeCore join in conversation about everything from parenting and core values to experiential marketing and politics. Starting off, Kelly shares with us what he is most grateful for and his personal philosophy for a happy, meaningful life. His family is incredibly important to him and he dishes out some of his tried and tested parenting advice and reflects on his own childhood experiences and how they have shaped him. We discuss the role of liberal arts in teaching critical thinking, what the world actually needs from politicians, forging meaningful connections with people and the need for advertising folk to grasp and engage with contemporary culture. We reimagine a society where the measure of success is holistic and where people’s contribution to all spheres of life is a more interesting consideration than just what they do as a job and the money they get from doing it. Don’t miss out on this insightful conversation with people who speak your language.  Key Points From This Episode: A reflective overview of Kelly’s parents and growing up in a very religious household. Dealing with his mother’s mental illness, dropping out of school and moving out at age 16. Being excommunicated from his religious network and the tough lessons he learned. How Kelly’s childhood experiences informed his perspective on raising his own kids. The importance of building confidence and adaptability into his children. The critical role of arts in teaching critical thinking and problem solving. Combing liberal arts and science to find solutions for the existential problems of humankind. The need for politicians to adopt a human-centered approach to government. Recognizing who ‘your people’ are and not wasting time investing in those who are not. What the dissolution of the ego entails and how harmony is the foundation of success. Unequal distribution of resources and population growth as two major concerns in our collective unconscious. Doing work that matters, experiential marketing and engaging the younger generations. Red Bull as an example of a company that supports and engages with arts and culture. Artists’ role in stimulating conversations around social issues and challenging the status quo. The interesting space where art and AI meet and the future of artistic presentation. And much more!  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Kelly Vaught on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyvaughtbecore Kelly Vaught on Twitter — https://twitter.com/kellyvaught1?lang=en BeCore — https://becore.com/ Herp Alpert School of Music — https://schoolofmusic.ucla.edu/ Michael Pollen — https://michaelpollan.com/ How to Change Your Mind on Amazon — https://www.amazon.com/Change-Your-Mind-Consciousness-Transcendence/dp/1594204225 Russell Brand — https://www.russellbrand.com/ Robert Service — https://poets.org/poet/robert-w-service “The World’s All Right” poem — http://explorenorth.com/library/service/bl-rollstone33.htm Steven Dupee on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevedupee GMR Marketing — https://gmrmarketing.com/en-us/ Gregg Witt — https://engageyouth.com/team/gregg-witt/ Steve Buscemi — https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000114/ Red Bull — https://www.redbull.com/za-en/ Dan Ginsberg on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-ginsberg-403b215 Patagonia — https://www.patagonia.com/home/ We Rise — https://werise.la/ Shepard Fairey — https://obeygiant.com/ Lil Miquela on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/lilmiquela/?hl=en Bella Hadid — https://twitter.com/bellahadid Joe Rogan Podcast — http://podcasts.joerogan.net/ Jamie Metzl — https://jamiemetzl.com/ Hacking Darwin on Amazon — https://www.amazon.com/Hacking-Darwin-Genetic-Engineering-Humanity/dp/149267009X Sapiens on Amazon — https://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316117/ Yuval Noah Harari — https://www.ynharari.com/ Man One —...

In this episode we hear from Jaron Lanier at his Tribeca Film Festival Talk. He discusses the implications of AI to our reality and social paradigms. We also cover other relevant topics like Jamie Metzl's book Hacking Darwin and MIT researcher Lex Freidmen's work in autonomous vehicles.

Jamie Metzl is a technology futurist and geopolitical expert, novelist, entrepreneur, media commentator, and Senior Fellow of the Atlantic Council. His new book "Hacking Darwin" is available now at Barnes & Noble and Amazon. https://hackingdarwin.com/

Jamie Metzl is a technology futurist and geopolitical expert, novelist, entrepreneur, media commentator, and Senior Fellow of the Atlantic Council. His new book "Hacking Darwin" is available now at Barnes & Noble and Amazon.  

Dimitri Simes, the President and CEO of the Centre for National Interest, joins Christiane Amanpour from Washington D.C. to discuss his involvement with the Trump campaign and why he's mentioned in the Mueller report. Michelle Lujan Grisham, the Governor of New Mexico, talks about the 2020 Democratic Presidential candidates and issues facing her border state. Our Hari Sreenivasan talks to author Jamie Metzl about his book "Hacking Darwin" and how DNA can be manipulated.To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy

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Dan Murphy, CEO at Bridgestone, discusses the golf ball brand seeing a 20-30% boost in sales following Tiger Woods winning the Masters. Catherine Traywick, Bloomberg News Energy Editor, talks about a culture of harassment at Anadarko's Denver office. Jamie Metzl, Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council, shares his thoughts on genetic engineering and his book "Hacking Darwin." Bloomberg News Senior Editor Ethan Bronner, explains how mercenaries, spies, and double agents are gathering en masse in Bogotá. And we Drive to the Close with Jim Lowell, Chief Investment Officer at Adviser Investments. Hosts: Carol Massar and Jason Kelly.  Producer: Paul Brennan  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Dan Murphy, CEO at Bridgestone, discusses the golf ball brand seeing a 20-30% boost in sales following Tiger Woods winning the Masters. Catherine Traywick, Bloomberg News Energy Editor, talks about a culture of harassment at Anadarko's Denver office. Jamie Metzl, Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council, shares his thoughts on genetic engineering and his book "Hacking Darwin." Bloomberg News Senior Editor Ethan Bronner, explains how mercenaries, spies, and double agents are gathering en masse in Bogotá. And we Drive to the Close with Jim Lowell, Chief Investment Officer at Adviser Investments. Hosts: Carol Massar and Jason Kelly.  Producer: Paul Brennan