Podcasts about Backstreet Boys

This week, it was joyous in NYC as the city celebrated the  Knicks championship. Last weekend, I went to a big party, where I got dragged for my red carpet poses, ran into a some RHONY Housewives past & present and danced to The Backstreet Boys. Then, we got in a fight with a caller over the UFC Freedom 250 celebration  (or trainwreck, but whose to say, really?) on the White House lawn. Plus, John and I recalibrated our friendship after getting into a little tiff, and we dug into some Listener Mail. For more interviews and behind-the-scenes tea, tune in to Andy Cohen Live weekdays on Radio Andy by subscribing to SiriusXM. Use my link https://sxm.app.link/AndyCohen for a free trial! Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Daddy Diaries ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Reilly Smith is back hosting the 7th Annual Battle For Vegas Charity Softball Game on Saturday, June 27th. Reilly talks how fun it's gonna be to have Nick Carter from the Backstreet Boys on his team and to go up against defending champs Brock Bowers & Team Raiders! For tickets go to battleforvegas.com.

What does a "yes until it's no" culture actually look like in long-term care? Aaron Fish sits down with Christy Norrish and Eric Anderson from Sherbrooke Community Centre (Saskatoon, SK) — recorded live at the Eden Alternative International Conference — to explore how their team creates unimaginable resident experiences: from water-skiing in a wheelchair to attending a Backstreet Boys concert. They cover the Eden Alternative philosophy, how to fight loneliness, helplessness, and boredom, community partnership strategies for zero-budget programming, resident-led recreation forums, and how to recharge as an activity professional. Perfect for activity directors, recreation therapists, executive directors, and anyone who believes life doesn't end when you move into long-term care.Sponsors: Wisox AI | LINK Consulting | Dining with Dementia Workshop | The 100% Leader

On this episode we discuss the New York Knicks winning their first NBA championship in 53 years. We also discuss our favorite New York rap anthems to help Knicks celebrate. Hip-Hop Facts this week include facts about Backstreet Boys, Ludacris, Earth Wind & Fire and more. Fresh’s Unpopular Opinion is that Jay-Z teaming up with […] The post Orange & Blue Skies appeared first on KUT & KUTX Studios -- Podcasts.

Britney Spears' latest Instagram video sent Ricki and Tim down a pop music rabbit hole that ended with a deep dive into legendary hitmaker Max Martin. From Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys to Pink, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and The Weeknd, they unpacked how one songwriter helped create some of the biggest songs ever recorded. Plus, Tim attempted to explain the bizarre "music math" theory behind massive global hits, while Ricki realised just how many of her favourite songs had the same mastermind behind them.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The squad attempts to help Sandra navigate a "family soap opera" after discovering her daughter's new 45-year-old boyfriend is actually the mom's own former high school hookup. Between the relationship trauma, the crew investigates why tacos now cost $8, reacts to a Knicks fan trying to kiss his Narcan savior, and roasts Howie D for "becoming Puerto Rican" decades after the Backstreet Boys peaked. [Edited by @iamdyre

El 18 de junio, el tiempo presenta nubes y lluvia en el norte (Cantábrico, Cataluña, Castilla y León), mientras el resto de España disfruta de sol y calor, con 38 grados en Andalucía. Se anuncia la primera ola de calor. El Gobierno aprueba la prórroga de ayudas anticrisis y el descuento del IVA en carburantes. El Congreso debate un anteproyecto de ley de docencia para reducir alumnos por clase y la jornada laboral de profesores. Se anuncian los Premios Princesa de Asturias: Patty Smith (Artes), Estudio Gilvin (Humanidades), Leo Messi (Deportes) y Cristina Koch (Concordia), primera mujer en viajar a la Luna. En el Festival de Tribeca, "Dreams of Violettes" genera debate como la primera película creada íntegramente con inteligencia artificial por 2000 dólares. En '¡Buenos días, Javi y Mar!', se juega a la "encuesta absurda" y se comenta la "The June Theory" sobre junio como mes ideal para encontrar pareja. Una oyente, Laura, busca conocer a los Backstreet Boys. La música destaca con ...

We're back! This week we have special guests Sam and Dylan who join me to play a quick game before they went back to watching animal videos and then were off to bed. They killed it on the show! Then we discuss McDonald's Fry pies, read a little excerpt from my most recent article discussing cleaning my own house AND we discuss summer movies! Will you watching Toy Story 5 or Minions and Monsters? Have you heard the new Backstreet Boys song for the Paw Patrol movie? Important Stuff! Jenna's Latest Article on X: https://x.com/jennakimjones/status/2066674311860047993 My special She's So Brave is now available to stream on Amazon Prime! https://www.amazon.com/Jenna-Kim-Jones-Shes-Brave/dp/B0CGQHFF1R Need help with you brand? Maybe you need a new website? Head to wicky.co - Your brand's creative partner! Come cruise with me at Moon River at Sea: https://moonriveratsea.tbits.me/trk/jennakimjones Join my website today for exclusive content and the full podcast video: https://jennakimjones.com/product/membership/ Call or text me at 404-477-4160

Singer-songwriter Baylee Littrell joins McCabe & Jenny of the Mix New Music Club! He opens up about growing up on the road, learning from his father (Brian Littrell of the Backstreet Boys), and his time on American Idol. Plus, get the story behind his new song "So Be It" and find out what's next for his musical journey. Listen now!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Matt's starting to re-think his gentle parenting stance, Tino talks to Brian Littrell of the Backstreet Boys, and Are You Smarter Than Nicasio...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This morning, Wall Street is cheering what could be the largest stock market debut of all time, so big, it could make Elon Musk the first trillionaire. SpaceX officially went public this morning when the markets opened for business.The White House is moving forward with this weekend's UFC Freedom 250 despite a pending court challenge. The event on the White House South Lawn is intended to celebrate the U.S.' 250th birthday. "CBS Mornings" got a behind-the-scenes look at preparations.More midwest devastation from another round of storms. Central illinois was hit by multiple tornadoes, one of them ripped through parts of Streator, about two hours southwest of Chicago. At least one person had to be rescued. CBS News Meteorologist Rob Marciano has the details.There's a party going on in our studio for the upcoming paw patrol dino movie. The Backstreet Boys are in studio with a live audience to reveal the music video for its hit song from the movie, called "Bottle up."This weekend, what might be the biggest UFC event in history. In the spirit of honoring our troops tech giant Meta says it's giving free Ray-Ban Meta smart glasses to every legally blind veteran in America. We're Joined by Meta president Dina Powell McCormack and UFC president Dana White, who's a Meta board member.Shawn Hatosy won an Emmy last year for playing Dr. Jack Abbot, a night shift doctor in a Pittsburgh emergency room. He joins us in studio to talk about it.

Heute mit den neusten Releases von Olivia Rodrigo, Bebe Rexha, Backstreet Boys, Andrea Bocelli & David Guetta & EJAE & Megan Thee Stallion.

Send us Fan MailLas Vegas gets a massive 10-year extension that cements Formula 1's future on the Strip. There's a great summer discount package at The Mob Museum and the Strip has a brand-new In-N-Out Burger. Plus, Dayna gives us the delicious rundown on her recent night out at BOA Steakhouse, and we look ahead to a historic downtown sendoff for a legendary 1980s casino favorite.The Strip's Newest Burger Joint: In-N-Out Burger is making a massive move to the Strip at BLVD Las Vegas. We've got the details on the indoor/outdoor setup and what this means for hungry travelers.Formula 1 Locks in Until 2037: Big news for racing fans! Formula 1 has signed a massive 10-year extension to keep tearing up the Las Vegas Strip for over a decade. We talk about the multi-billion dollar economic impact and what it means for the city's future.The End of an Era for Sigma Derby: The world's very last remaining operational Sigma Derby machine is moving out of The D. But don't worry, it's not going far! We cover the upcoming Fremont Street farewell processional hosted by Derek Stevens as this beloved 1980s mechanical horse racing game heads to its historic new home at the Golden Gate.Summer Savings & Matinee Magic: Looking for a deal? We break down The Mob Museum's incredible "Big Boss Package" running through August, plus new daytime show slots you need to know about, including Awakening matinees and afternoon sets from the Jabbawockeez.Fremont Street Red, White, and Blue: From a massive Team USA Pep Rally and Watch Party at Stadium Swim to a spectacular citywide America 250 fireworks show on June 20th, downtown has a lot of fun stuff happening.Sports Royalty at Fontainebleau: With the Vegas Golden Knights back in the Stanley Cup Finals, the timing is perfect. Fontainebleau's Hall of Excellence has just added major new artifacts, including championship gear from the Aces, Jack Eichel, Shohei Ohtani, and Rafael Nadal. Plus, we share how locals can score free parking there through Labor Day!Celebrity Sightings: From the Aces courtside to a Backstreet Boy cranking the siren at the fortress, the star power in Vegas is unmatched right now.Links & Resources Mentioned in This Episode:Check out our YouTube Channel for the full visuals on the Awakening package and more!Book the Mob Museum package on its website.Book Awakening at Wynn Las Vegas.Enjoying the show? Please leave us a 5-star review and subscribe so you never miss a Vegas update!VegasNearMe App If it's fun to do or see, it's on VegasNearMe. The only app you'll need to navigate Las Vegas. It's FREE!Support the showFollow us on Instagram: @vegas.revealedFollow us on Twitter: @vegasrevealedFollow us on TikTok: @vegas.revealedWebsite: Vegas-Revealed.com

我和泠风，还有另外一位朋友（我预感早晚有一天她也会上我们的音乐速写）有一个三人小群。我觉得在我们这个岁数，如果不是工作需要，“三人小群”的意义非凡。必须要关系很好才会有这样一个小群——虽然我回顾了一下这个群的历史聊天记录，才发现这里原本是一个跑团（也就是桌上RPG群），原本不止我们三个人，但不知道哪一天就变成了只剩我们三个。 作为（基本上是每三周一次的）不一定音乐广播录音后聚会常驻成员的泠风，终于来到我们的录音话筒前，帮我们重启了久未开张的“音乐速写”计划。 泠风跟我差不多是同龄人——虽然小马一直以为泠风跟他才是同龄人——但地缘的差异似乎也造成了我们听歌的差异，比如我还在看同一首歌的时候，她已经听上了梁咏琪、花儿乐队和维瓦尔第。 本期节目里，就让我们走进泠风的童年和少年时期。 *** 本期歌单 1. 梁咏琪 – 胆小鬼 @ 梁咏琪 (1998) 2. 范晓萱 – 小魔女的魔法书 @ 小魔女的魔法书 (1996) 3. 花儿乐队 – 静止 @ 幸福的旁边 (1999) 4. Alan Loveday, Neville Marriner: The Academy of St. Martin in the Fields – Vivaldi: The Four Seasons: No. 4 In F Minor, P.442 Winter: II. Largo @ Vivaldi: The Four Seasons (1969) 5. Backstreet Boys – As Long as You Love Me @ Backstreet’s Back (1997) 6. Linkin Park – In the End @ Hybrid Theory (2000)

Colleen Joyce, CEO of Lawyer.com, returns to the show to talk about the Lawyer Growth Summit, happening July 15–17 at the Fontainebleau in Las Vegas.This one's a little different from the usual playbook. Colleen and her team built LGS around a simple principle: nobody sells from the stage. After learning the hard way with post-COVID boot camps (and 100% churn), they rebuilt the event around peer learning, tangible action items, and the kind of "tell me how you actually did that" conversations that happen in the hallway and at the bar.We get into:Why brand is now the top of the marketing funnel — and how the biggest-name firms are growing social followings into six figures and pulling referrals from social aloneThe new world of AI SEO, featuring Justia CEO Tim Stanley sharing directory and search expertiseHow LGS is built for any growth-minded firm (with a heavy personal injury crowd), not just one practice areaThe experience side: a vendor lounge with no hard sells, high-end food and bev, and fun evening events (including a luxury retail store buyout with champagne and prizes)Bonus for staying through Friday the 17th: the Backstreet Boys at The SphereTickets, agenda, and speakers are all at lawyergrowthsummit.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Morning Xtra with Tug and Los delivers conservative talk on the biggest political, cultural, and news stories of the day. Smart analysis, unapologetic opinions, and real conversations every weekday morning. Every weekday from 6a to 10a! First thing to know: It’s crazy we have to choose Susan Collins over a Nazi The support for the Trans movement is falling When Fetterman gets primaried, don’t let him run as a Republican Atlanta's ONLY All Conservative News & Talk Station.: https://www.xtra1063.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The NCHA Super Stakes delivered unforgettable runs, breakout performances, and plenty of chaos inside the cowbox — I am joined by my good pal, 'The Louis Vuitton Vaquero' aka NCHA Hall of Famer, Jesse Lennox to break it all down. From Kenny Platt's historic dominance in the 5/6 Open to Michael Cooper's clutch performances under pressure, this episode dives deep into the horses, the strategy, and the personalities shaping the future of cutting. Jesse gives a behind-the-scenes look at what really happens in the cowbox, how elite trainers read cattle, and why the next generation of riders like Cade Shepard, Colt Moore, Cooper Clark, and Ryan Rapp are changing the game. They also unpack the rise of Metallic Rey Mink offspring, the evolution of modern horse training, and the subtle details—like "watching a cow's nostril" — that separate great horsemen from everyone else. Along the way, things go completely off the rails with harmonica stories, busking on the Granbury square, Backstreet Boys encounters, celebrity cuttings, and the ongoing rise of the legendary band "Low Expectations." This episode is equal parts cutting horse masterclass and locker room comedy—and one of the most entertaining recaps yet. Enjoy the show! This episode is brought to you by Kerry Kelley Bits and Spurs, Kimes Ranch and Bluebonnet Feeds. 

Send us Fan MailOn this episode, Tom and Bert cover and discuss the Top 50 "Love Songs" Pt 2  with their own list or Reel Dealz Top 50!Some amazing songs were recorded thru the decades and the guys go through the songs that other sources deemed to be "The Best" ever. Well, listen in as we discuss "Our" songs that are our Top Hits and without a doubt a great list but like anything else we couldn't put all of our favs out there.  Without further ado, Here is our Top 50+ Love Songs of all Time.CHAPTER Highlights:(:30) INTRO(1:46) In no particular order.....Here we go!(4:15) "My Girl" by the Temptations and many more(12:33) "Something" by the Beatles, "Natural Woman" by Aretha Franklin and many other hits including......... "Happy Together" by the Turtles, "Let's get it on" by Marvin Gaye, "Everlasting Love" by Robert Knight, "Ain't no Mountain High Enough" by Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell,"I Swear" by All 4 One, "I want it that way" by the Backstreet Boys,"Just the way you are" by Bruno Mars, "Amazed" by Lone Star 2000 "Hey, Soul Sister" by Train and "I Wanna be Around" by Tony BennettThere you have it!And it's a wrap! Enjoy the show!You can email us at reeldealzmoviesandmusic@gmail.com or visit our Facebook page, Reel Dealz Podcast: Movies & Music Thru The Decades to leave comments and/or TEXT us at 843-855-1704 as well.

Send Mary and Kelsey a Message!In this episode, Mary and Kelsey celebrate 30 years of millennial bops with their own top ten list of 1996 hits. If you screamed the lyrics to Ironic, Lovefool, No Diggity, Wonderwall, this episode is for you.Support the showInstagram: @whentheypoppedpodTikTok: @whentheypoppedpodEmail: whentheypoppedy2k@gmail.comWebsite: linktree.com/whentheypoppedSubscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=85610411

Altas temperaturas hoy (30-40°C interior/Andalucía, 25°C norte, lluvias en Galicia). La ola de calor finaliza mañana. Arranca la Selectividad en Madrid para 42.000 estudiantes, con corrección unificada y menos penalización. En 5 días, el Papa León XIV visita España (primera vez desde 2011), previendo 125 millones de euros de ingresos en Madrid. Los Premios Max se celebran hoy en Mérida, homenajeando a Iniesta y con "Fuentovejuna" nominada. En '¡Buenos días, Javi y Mar!', juegan a "Jeroglíficos auditivos" y debaten sobre "amigo comodín" o "comodón". Oyentes comparten anécdotas de exámenes y se dan consejos para dejar de fumar. Marta Soto presenta "Reinicio" y se recuerda a Backstreet Boys. Una oyente plantea el dilema de llevarse sobras de comida.

We’re live at Bottlerock Festival in Napa Valley and hanging with some of our favorite Bachelor Nation ladies! Everyone is looking forward to the Backstreet Boys, but you won’t believe who’s rocking out to Busta Rhymes!We get into a round of rapid-fire questions, and uncover what the franchise needs to succeed, who is on the Bachelor Mt. Rushmore, and their 2026 goals!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Want to request a song? Tell us your rating? Send us a Text Message right now! This week, we're joined by comedian Aaron Gocs to break down As Long as You Love Me by Backstreet Boys.What starts as a harmless 90s pop hit quickly turns into a deep dive into fugitives, war crimes, Ponzi schemes and one of the darkest lyrical breakdowns we've ever done.We cover:• Could Aaron Gocs beat all five Backstreet Boys in a fight? • Lou Pearlman's insane scam empire • The weirdly criminal undertones of this song • The best songs of the 1997 game • Why Smash Mouth somehow took the crownFollow Gocsy: Instagram / TikTok: @aarongocs Facebook / YouTube: Aaron GocsLove music but tired of hearing us complain about it?1001 Songs That Make You Want To Live is our free Patreon bonus show, where we celebrate the songs we actually love.New episodes every Thursday.Listen free on Patreon. Think you know music?Every Friday, Tower Of Music puts your music knowledge to the test.Guess the artists. Spot the clues. Beat the hosts.Play along and see if you can make it to the top of the tower.New episodes every Friday on YouTube.Search 1001 Songs That Make You Want To Die and subscribe now. Please tell your mates about the podcast and jump on Apple Podcasts/iTunes and give us a 5-star review!Buzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched!Start for FREEBlessington Support the podcast when you buy a Blessington watch! Use the promo code “1001songs” at checkout. DUBBYDUBBY is declaring WAR on big Energy! Use the promo code "1001songs" at checkout for 10% off! Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the showFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/1001songsthatmakeyouwanttodie/Follow us on TikTok: @the1001crew

New Olivia Rodrigo is here! Spotify wants to make sure true fans can buy concert tickets. Spotify is also teaming up with Universal to put AI tools in the hands of listeners. Wish you could talk to Ozzy Osbourne? Here's your chance! Matty is excited to see the Backstreet Boys on Sunday. Baked beans and toast? A man thought a fire would help him steal stuff… it didn't. Ever wonder why so many more people are right-handed? People take their BBQ methodology seriously. Plus, When Did That Happen?

Hour 1: Sarah has no complaints about the Survivor finale. Stephen Colbert had his farewell show last night, and it was peppered with celebrities. Then, Neil deGrasse Tyson uses a wormhole to explain the show's fate. NASCAR driver Kyle Busch passed away unexpectedly at 41. Quentin Tarantino didn't take crap from Brad Pitt. More Americans are traveling for Memorial Day Weekend than ever before, despite insane gas prices. Will you be having this stuff at your BBQ this weekend? Vinnie's got proof that your vote matters. Hour 2: It's time for Bad Advice! Is this listener trying to ruin their amicable divorce? Then, is it possible to keep politics out of our relationships? The gang tries their best to advise! Don't be fooled by the hot weather if you're headed to BottleRock! Layers, layers, layers! A bride decides to ditch the wedding aesthetic - is it a bit? Don't do this crap if you're going to a wedding. Hour 3: Vinnie is missing his desserts. Bob has some really bad advice for him. The audio from Britney Spears' DUI has made it to the internet. The new Star Wars movie is out this weekend. Happy National Goth Day! You can celebrate with ‘The Bride.” Sacha Baron Cohen has a new movie. Queen Latifah is hosting the American Music Awards. What's up with people getting married before their ceremony? People might not be annoyed at AI taking this job: Jury duty. Need a snack? Eat some almonds! Would you smash Slash? Hour 4: New Olivia Rodrigo is here! Spotify wants to make sure true fans can buy concert tickets. Spotify is also teaming up with Universal to put AI tools in the hands of listeners. Wish you could talk to Ozzy Osbourne? Here's your chance! Matty is excited to see the Backstreet Boys on Sunday. Baked beans and toast? A man thought a fire would help him steal stuff… it didn't. Ever wonder why so many more people are right-handed? People take their BBQ methodology seriously. Plus, When Did That Happen?

Full Force is here! Paul Anthony, Bowlegged Lou, and B-Fine! These music legends have so many hits under their belts, and have written songs for the biggest stars on the planet. We talk about The Apollo, the movies Longshot and House Party which they had classic roles as the high school bullies, working with Bob Dylan, Jasmine Guy, Backstreet Boys, and more. We discuss some of their favourite 90's stuff, and can you guess Donnie Wahlberg's favourite Full Force song? Listen and find out!

Taylor is spiraling, Stassi is fresh off a busy New York press trip, and somehow it all turns into friendship anxiety, a smoke shop run, and an unforgettable “dark passenger” night out. Stassi recaps the Disney upfronts and getting recognized during a special-occasion solo adventure, before mourning the end of Outlander, spoilers and all. Plus, Summer House theories, celebrity doppelgängers, and Tom Brady's Gucci runway jump scare - then it's Alex Cooper's pregnancy bravery, Backstreet Boys nostalgia, and Stassi demanding answers for the Nick Carter era.Thanks for supporting our sponsors:Hiya: Receive 50% off your first order at hiyahealth.com/STASSI.Vivrelle: Go to www.vivrelle.com and apply for a membership today using referral code STASSITAY for your first month of membership FREE.Ro: Go to RO.CO/STASSI to see if you're eligible for the new GLP-1 pill on Ro.Minnow: Shop the summer collection at shopminnow.com and enter code MEETMINNOW15 at checkout to receive 15% off your first order. Progressive: Compare car insurance quote with rates from other companies at Progressive.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What happens when a celebrity scandal breaks, the internet is on fire, and everyone is waiting for the perfect statement? According to veteran publicist Juliet Harris, nothing is ever really “off record.”This week on After Reality, I'm joined by the founder of IT Girl Productions for a behind-the-scenes look at crisis PR, celebrity scandals, and reputation management. Juliet has worked with major names including Nelly, The Backstreet Boys, La Toya Jackson, and Rachel Leviss, and she knows exactly what it takes to help a public figure survive a public storm. But what does accountability actually look like when the spotlight is on you — and is a statement ever enough?Juliet shares how she went from studying criminology to managing high-profile reputations, and what really happens behind the scenes when a headline starts spiraling. We talk about how social media has changed the PR game, why accountability matters, and how publicists decide what to say — and what not to say — when the internet is watching.We also get into the latest celebrity PR parallels, from Taylor Frankie Paul to Blake Lively, Spencer Pratt's run for mayor, and how reality TV personas can collide with real-life consequences. Plus, Juliet shares her thoughts on The Bachelorette PR team, what they may be navigating behind the scenes, and how a franchise handles headlines when the story starts moving faster than the official messaging.Juliet also opens up about balancing a demanding career with motherhood, staying organized under pressure, and why great PR is really a strategic chess game built on instinct, relationships, and knowing when to make the right move.@itgirlpublicrelations Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this profound exploration of Matthew 21:40-46, Tony Arsenal and Jesse Schwamb unpack the Parable of the Wicked Tenants and its devastating indictment of Israel's religious leadership. The hosts navigate the complex theological terrain of kingdom transfer, covenant faithfulness, and the identity of God's people across redemptive history. With careful attention to the text's original context and its implications for the church today, they examine how Christ presents himself as the rejected cornerstone—the one upon whom people either fall in repentance or are crushed in judgment. This episode offers rich insights into supersessionism, the remnant theology of Romans 11, and the practical call for Christians to examine whether they're submitting to Christ as the true cornerstone or attempting to usurp his rightful place. Key Takeaways The Self-Condemning Verdict: The chief priests and Pharisees unknowingly pronounce judgment upon themselves when they declare the wicked tenants deserve destruction, demonstrating how the natural conscience can discern God's justice even when blind to personal complicity. Kingdom Transfer as Covenant Transition: The "taking away" of the kingdom represents not the abandonment of God's elect remnant but the historical-redemptive transition from the typological Old Covenant administration to the New Covenant church gathered from all nations. The Cornerstone's Double Judgment: Christ as the cornerstone presents two modes of encounter—those who fall upon him in repentance are broken but healed; those upon whom he falls in final judgment are ground to powder with no remedy. Visible vs. Invisible Church Distinction: The visible identification of God's people shifted from the geopolitical nation of Israel to the universal church, while the invisible elect have always been saved by grace through faith in the coming Messiah. Fear of Man vs. Fear of God: The Pharisees' restraint from seizing Jesus due to fear of the crowds (rather than fear of God) exemplifies how the wicked are dominated by human opinion rather than divine accountability. Infant Baptism and Covenant Community: The joyful inclusion of children in the visible covenant community through baptism reflects God's gracious promise sealed to those who contribute nothing to their own covenant status. Fruit-Bearing as Evidence: The "new tenants" are characterized not by works-righteousness but by evidential fruit—the genuine works that flow from "true and lively faith" worked by the Holy Spirit. Key Concepts The Irony of Self-Condemnation The theological and pastoral power of this parable reaches its climax when the religious leaders, failing to perceive themselves as the wicked tenants in Jesus's story, pronounce harsh judgment upon the hypothetical villains: "He will bring those wretches to a wretched end." This moment mirrors Nathan's confrontation of David after the Bathsheba affair, yet with a tragic difference—these leaders never experience David's repentance. Calvin observes that the natural conscience, even when blind to personal guilt, retains an "hidden impulse to identify with justice." The Pharisees demonstrate total depravity in high definition: they possess enough moral clarity to recognize egregious covenant-breaking in the abstract, yet remain entirely blind to their own embodiment of that very wickedness. This irony serves as both judgment and warning—we all possess an uncanny ability to see sin clearly everywhere except in the mirror. Kingdom Transfer: Covenant Continuity and Discontinuity The phrase "the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing its fruit" requires careful theological handling to avoid both replacement theology (in its pejorative sense) and dispensational fragmentation. The Reformed understanding maintains covenant continuity: there has always been one people of God, defined not ethnically but by faith in the Messiah. What changes is the visible administration of the covenant. Under the Old Covenant, the visible church was largely coterminous with ethnic Israel—a geopolitical reality with boundaries, a zip code, and national identity. Under the New Covenant, the visible church explodes these ethnic and geographic boundaries, fulfilling God's promise to Abraham that "in your seed all nations will be blessed." This is not Plan B; it's the eschatological unveiling of what was always intended. The "breaking off of natural branches" (Romans 11) refers to covenant unfaithfulness resulting in exclusion from visible covenant privileges, while the faithful Jewish remnant—the apostles, early believers, and the ongoing elect from Israel—remain fully incorporated into the church. The vineyard hasn't been abandoned; it's been opened to "other tenants" who will render the proper fruit: Gentiles grafted in alongside believing Jews into the one olive tree of God's redemptive purposes. The Cornerstone: Salvation or Destruction Christ's invocation of Psalm 118:22—"the stone which the builders rejected has become the chief cornerstone"—followed by his dual judgment ("whoever falls on this stone will be broken...on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust") presents two exhaustive options for relating to Jesus. The cornerstone in ancient construction was the foundational stone by which all other stones found their proper alignment and orientation. To fall upon this stone willingly—in repentance, faith, and self-abandonment—is painful. It shatters pride, self-righteousness, and autonomy. But this breaking leads to healing, to being properly "squared" and aligned with reality as God has constructed it. The alternative is catastrophic: to have the cornerstone fall upon you in final eschatological judgment is to experience irreversible, total destruction—being "ground to powder" with no possibility of remedy. The practical application is urgent: we must examine ourselves continually to ensure we're not attempting to be our own cornerstone, measuring righteousness by our own standards, aligning the universe to ourselves rather than submitting to Christ as the measure of all things. Memorable Quotes "There's never a time where that righteousness is removed or unapplied, but we are constantly faced with a choice as to whether we want to be the kind of people who render our fruit unto the Lord, as the faithful tenants when the unfaithful tenants are replaced. Or do we wanna be the people that reap wicked fruit and keep for ourselves?" — Tony Arsenal "The vineyard of God is still let out, the fruit is still demanded, the cornerstone is still laid. Blessed are they who receive him—and also get those babies into church." — Jesse Schwamb "This is not a wall you're gonna run through. Like you're gonna smash into this wall and it's gonna crush you. And if you are not properly assigning the cornerstone its place... the whole thing is gonna crush you." — Tony Arsenal Full Episode Transcript [00:01:05] Jesse Schwamb: Welcome to episode 492 of The Reformed Brotherhood. I'm Jesse.  [00:01:14] Tony Arsenal: And I'm Tony. And this is the podcast with ears to hear. Hey brother.  [00:01:18] Jesse Schwamb: Hey brother.  [00:01:19] Parable Recap [00:01:19] Jesse Schwamb: Well, the time has finally come for us to close out our discussion in Matthew 21. This is the Parable of the Vine growers, and everybody should just go back and list everything we said so far, but I think here's how we could sum it up. Jesus's authority gets challenged and he sets a trap so beautiful that we should put it into a museum. He tells basically the religious bigwigs, this whole story where tenants speed up servants, they kill the air. They generally behave like it's an HOA literally run by the devil. And then he asks them this question, so what should the owner of the vineyard do And the chief priest. Chest puffed up. Basically shout out the answers to their own indictment. Smoke 'em. Give the vineyard to somebody who isn't garbage. Listen fellas, you just preached your own funeral. So in this we get to see this total depravity in 4K. Sovereign grace skips the credential gatekeepers and it lands on the tax collectors and the gentiles. They elect the vineyard, the self-righteous, get the rock. And we're gonna close out what all of that means, including probably not a small amount of talk about the kingdom being transferred, whatever that means, and maybe a little engrafting. Aah, Romans 11 style. It's all there for us. And that is what is coming up. [00:02:34] Affirmations Setup [00:02:34] Jesse Schwamb: Of course before we can do any of that, we can't even get there. Tony, before we do affirmations, denials, you and I both know it's our contractual obligation. It's what the people want all over the world. If we skip this, there will be some kind of riot revolt. So we gotta start there. Let's not get too excited yet. So I'm curious as always, are you affirming with something or you not against something for this episode?  [00:02:58] Tony Arsenal: I am, I'm affirming, uh, this is gonna be like people are gonna grow and roll their eyes a little bit.  [00:03:04] Infant Baptism Joy [00:03:04] Tony Arsenal: I'm affirming infant baptism today. We had a lovely infant baptism at church, um, and a couple recently had a child. Um, there's been, this was a kind of a particularly, um, poignant baptism. Um, the, the mother was in the hospital for several weeks before the baby was born, um, with some medical challenges, so was in. In the hospital. In the hospital for like, I want to say probably four weeks, which is a long time. Um, they have several other children, which makes it even harder. Um, and then, uh, then the baby was in the hospital for quite some time. He came a little early and then had some other issues. Um, and so this family was out of church for quite some time dealing with these health issues, and we, we all miss them very much. So it was a very sweet moment. Um, and it's just a, a good reminder, right? And, and the way our church does it is, you know, the pastor, the family comes up, they do vows, they do the baptism, but he calls all the children forward and the children come and sit, uh, right in the front row and they watch this all happen. Um. Which is, is very sweet. And you know, I, I went up there with Augie, and Augie was sitting on my lap and he was very, he was like super locked into this, this whole thing, which is, uh, which was nice to see. So I'm affirming infant baptism. It's a beautiful, beautiful picture of the gospel. Um, it's, it's God's promise being sealed to someone who contributes nothing to, um, to that promise contributes nothing to, uh, their own, um, position in the church or status in the church. They contribute nothing. Um, in most cases they're not even aware of what's going on. So I know not all of our listeners are, uh, are covenant infant Baptists, uh, type people. Um, so yes, I get it. You disagree, but there is something just sweet and beautiful, uh, even I think even for people who aren't quite sold on infant baptism. Um, and I think even sometimes for people who are kind of opposed to infant baptism, I think we've commented in the PA past that there's kind of this impulse that I think all Christian parents have that their children should be. Treated in a certain way that's different than how a non-Christian family treats their children. Right. Um, so there is kind of this instinct that the, there's, whether it's a formal status or just sort of a, a way of thinking about things, there is this impulse that the children of believers are somehow set apart in different, and of course, the, the Presbyterian Covenant Baptist, um, position would, would formalize that through the rite of baptism, uh, at least in part. So I'm affirming infant baptism, both theologically, but also just experimentally today. Like it was just, it was just a balm to my soul to see this, um. And like I said, the congregation has been praying for a long time for the health, uh, and the, the welfare of this family, um, and been, you know, doing meal trains and all the stuff that churches do. But it was, it was a very sweet moment, um, to see the pastor scoop this little baby up in his arms and be able to sort of introduce him to the church as the newest covenant member of the congregation. Uh, it was just a very nice moment. [00:05:59] Baptism Dedication Common Ground [00:05:59] Jesse Schwamb: I think you're right. We can all agree that there's something really beautiful about God growing his church, at least the visible church, through just the multiplicative effect of. People having children, there's something beautiful about that, and then welcoming them in an official way into your congregation, into your midst. Interestingly, in my church, there was a baby dedication today and I was also equally moved though like I would say the promises that were invoked during that time, the equipment's made are very different than what you might hear during kind of pedo infant baptism. You're right in that the spirit of this that is like a representation kind of bringing forward of the child to say he or she is part of us and we're making a commitment to raise them in admonition of the Lord is a really lovely thing. It's like a public recognition that God is providing a manifest blessing in our midst, and that he is growing and working out his church and he's doing it by just bringing new people into it who are being, who are the subjects of procreation. Creation itself, but procreation and how can you not be like, just excited about that. And, and also a little bit like it's also, and I'm not trying to denigrate any practice here, but also just on the face also super adorable. Like when you, when you see a pastor scoop up, like you said, a little child, whether that's to pray with them and dedication or to baptize them. Either way, it's super just like lovely and just pulls in your heartstrings. Yeah. In like this very spiritual way, not just in kind of an emotional kind of way.  [00:07:26] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah. And I, you know, I don't, I think, um, when I think back, you know, Augie's, obviously you know this, but Augie was dedicated, um, Addie was not. Um, but when I think back to the vows we took, when we dedicated Augie, there are some differences, but there's also a lot that's not different like the sure close to like, raise up your child in the church and to like, pray for them and set a good example. And then, and then the sort of reciprocal vows that the congregation typically takes, that the congregation will do what they can to support the family as they, they raise this child and the Lord. Um, you know, even in, even in a lot of contexts, like in the Presbyterian church, I'm in like prayers that this, this child would come to know Jesus and would, would come to confess the faith for themselves and become a full, you know, full communicate member of the church. Like, those things are all present. So as much as I think, um. As much as I wanna acknowledge that infant baptism or, or covenant, I, I say covenant baptism versus, um, sort of like baptist theology writ, large credo Baptist theology, which is covenantal, but differently covenantal in most cases. Right. Um, even though that is a dividing line, and I think like it's a real dividing line. There's a real division that exists and that there's good theological historical reasons why those divisions exist. There still is so much that is the same. Um, in terms of how Baptists and, and Presbyterians or however formed, you know, PR Christians, um, re reflect on and think about their children. There's some differences, but in terms of like. We all want our children to come to know Jesus. We all want their first memory to be worshiping in the church and loving the Lord. We, we don't want them to ever remember a time where the name of Christ was not on their lips as their savior. Um, all those things are the same and even the, the way we promise before God and, and primarily before God, but before others, even the way we promise to nourish them in, in right doctrine and nourish them in good teaching and bring them into the church and, and set a faithful example. All of those things are the same. So I I I, I never want to diminish the fact that there are differences 'cause there are real differences and there are important differences. But I also think we often sort of like. I think because we've talked about this before, like Reformed Baptists and Presbyterians are so close that we have to bicker over the things that are different. It's like you're, it's like when you fight with your brother on whose side of the room it's on. Like you're so close that you have to find the little things to really bicker about and then you really, really bicker about them. And I think that kind of like describes the, the Presbyterian Baptist divide in a lot of ways. I know there's a lot of people that would say like, Lutherans are closer to Presbyterians and those people are just, I dunno, they're just wrong. Um, on, on, maybe on baptism, they're, they're not wrong. But in terms of general theological principles, like, you know, Westminster Confession, London Baptists, confession, like, it, it's 95% the same content. Sure. Um, and 95% like the same confession, not just the same like words, but the same meaning of the words. And, um, so yeah. Anyway, that's my affirmation. Infant baptism. It was a joy. I was happy to see it. Um, uh, we have a ton of little, little babies in the, the church. It's funny 'cause another, another, um. A couple announced today that they were expecting, and we've, we've had basically pregnant women in the church for, you know, obviously like at least nine months if someone is still pregnant. But like we've had, we've had this like rotation of, of women delivering babies for like, at least, probably, at least 16, 18 months of, of constantly having people who are, are expecting, which is really a great joy to see. So I, I love it. I love the church. I love the Presbyterian church. Um, and this was just another great example of, of the beauty of, uh, a robust confessionalism and a robust presbyterianism. [00:11:08] Jesse Schwamb: The way in which you said that made it sound like you're about to make like a grand historical statement. Like, we've had pregnant people in the church since the first century.  [00:11:18] Tony Arsenal: Well, I mean that's probably true, but  [00:11:19] Jesse Schwamb: yeah, it definitely  [00:11:20] Tony Arsenal: true. Not, not our church. Our church has only been around, our particular church has only been around for like 10 years, so I'm sure there have been times during that period where there were not pregnant people  [00:11:29] Jesse Schwamb: pregnant. It just sounded like we were going all the way back as if like to, again emphasize and maybe this isn't, this is as fair statement, like how faithful God has been like from the beginning. There's always been. Pregnant lady Church. Look, look at how faithful God is.  [00:11:42] Mic Grabbing Babies [00:11:42] Jesse Schwamb: And, and this is true, I like to play this game when there is a baby dedication. I'm not sure what the sound system is like in your church, but often our, our pastors wear like the tiny little like Backstreet Boys style. It's probably outdated reference, but microphone that comes over the ear and to the mouth and it's very discreet. But the game I like to play is like once, once he takes the child for a time of dedication or specifically prayer, the, the goal is to see like how long before that baby goes for the mic. Because as soon as like a baby sees a mic right there, it's like, oh yeah, this is the best thing that's happened to me in my tiny little life.  [00:12:20] Tony Arsenal: Yeah, it's like an angler fish is really what it is. Yes. It's like that glowing bulb that just sits in front of its face and it's, the baby's just gotta grab it. [00:12:27] Jesse Schwamb: It's just too tempting. It's just too tempting. And I, and I love, you can tell like our pastors are really adept at being able to keep the prayer going and like discreetly maneuver the child, keep the child happy. It's, it's really an amazing thing. So altogether, I'm totally with you on so many levels. It's so good to see that happen in the church. And I'm with you on that. We gotta take joy in that For sure.  [00:12:48] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Jesse, what do you got for us tonight?  [00:12:50] Book Breath Pick [00:12:50] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah, something that's entirely unlike everything you just said. Certainly. Well, maybe, I guess there is a large spiritual component to this, but it's, I would say, for me, totally unexpected book recommendation and I came across this 'cause it was recommended to me and a while back, the keen or the listener who's been with us for a really long time, or a member that we talked about the book or why we sleep, this book became for me, like the equivalent of that in a totally different kind of topic or genre. It's called breath. The New Signs of a Lost Art by James Nestor and it explores how the way that humans breathe profoundly affects our health, our performance, our longevity. It's a book that is filled with both science and pseudoscience, which the author is really good at distinguishing and calling you to think about those things. But it's really totally changed how I understand like this little pattern in Habits of breathing. And it's a really interesting book of course. Like he draws from a lot of like religious influences, including of course the Judeo-Christian one. And I think that it even drew me back to understanding how God created us. And he did in a very specific way that text's giving some great description to the breadth that he gives us and how he gives us that breath. So if you're looking, I guess, for a little bit of a read, so that might surprise you about something that you might thought was automatic and simple in life and also that might. Be able to bring you some recommendations on how to better your health. Again, we're not doctors, but we are routinely considered among the top 50 healthcare podcasts. Then I would say this would be an interesting book for you to check out.  [00:14:19] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah. I haven't read it, but it's been recommended to me and one of the, one of the takeaways, actually, I think it might have been my doctor, my my PCP who mentioned this to me is like, if you wanna improve your health drastically, like just make it a practice of breathing through your nose. Yes. Like something that simple and straightforward has pretty significant health impacts of like. Like the way that your brain processes breath when it comes through your nose, the way that like, there's more filtering that happens with breath, so the air that gets to your lungs is cleaner. There's just a lot of, um, I haven't read it. I've, I think I actually have it somewhere, but I have not read it yet. Um, I, I should, I should take a look at it. I, I've heard good things about it.  [00:15:01] Jesse Schwamb: At the very least, if you're a Christian, it'll cause you to marvel again. That's how beautifully complex God has made the human body and how it seems entirely impossible that anyone could even logically reasonably conclude that somehow we are just time plus matter, plus chance, and that all these things got worked out. I don't wanna spoil some of the punchline. A part of the book is about this. Breathe through your nose, which you might think was just kind of an innocuous decision. Breathe through your nose, breathe your mouth. How, how different could it be? They actually do an experiment where they plug their noses, the author and somebody else for, uh, several, like 10 days straight. And do all these these things under medical supervision to see what the impact is. And I'll leave you to read it so you can hear that. There's also something fascinating, absolutely fascinating about carbon dioxide and a study that's done where they actually have people inhale a little bit of carbon dioxide and what it does to the body. In other words, like the system that God has put into play to ensure that the body gets the kind of right amount of oxygen that it needs and how it functions when it's given the warning side of carbon dioxide, even when. Your lung capacity and your oxygen, your blood doesn't change. There's a fascinating section on that. So I didn't expect to be this interested in the book and generally I take a little time before I recommend a book. I finished this a couple weeks ago and I'm still thinking about it. So, and I'm trying to put some things into practice, including I try to do some running and for the longest time I just thought, well, when you run, like even at any like moderate speed, like you have to breathe through your mouth, this book challenges some of that. So lo and behold, I went out and started to try just a little bit to see if I could just breathe through my nose. It turns out it's totally possible, like all this time I just thought that was impossible, like God didn't make us that way, and it's actually improving how I feel when I run and the running that I'm able to do. So I am surprised, I, I'm shocked by all this, and it's just as simple as understanding breath. Who would've guessed.  [00:16:56] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. I mean, I've heard it's a great book. I, I, I. It never ceases to amaze that the, the more we look at the human body, the more we look at God's creation, the more we see the fingerprints of our creators. So not, not  [00:17:07] Jesse Schwamb: right.  [00:17:07] Tony Arsenal: Sounds like a great book. I can't recommend it from personal experience, uh, although I've heard very good things.  [00:17:12] Reading Matthew 21 [00:17:12] Tony Arsenal: So, Jesse, I think we should probably just get into it because this is now week three of, uh, one week episode and, uh, we want to wanna dig in and we wanna wrap it up so we can move on to the next best thing out there, which is of course, the parables of Christ. [00:17:26] Jesse Schwamb: Let's get some. So I'm gonna read for us starting in verse 40 because if you've been tracking then you've already been with us through the first part of this parable, and it's notoriously or variously called parable the vine growers, or I kinda like the husband men, just because that's fun to say, and you don't get to drop husband men like very often. But vine dressers, vine growers, vine workers, it's all the same. But here's starting in verse 40. This is after Jesus has already explained the parable. He set it up for them and he's gonna bring for the indictment. So Jesus says, and therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to these vine growers? They said to him, he will bring those wretches to a wretched end and he will rent out the vineyard to other vine growers who will pay him the proceeds at the proper seasons. Jesus said to them, did you never read in the scriptures the stone, which the builders rejected? This has become the chief cornerstone. This came about from the Lord in his, marvelous in our eyes. Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruit of it. And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust. And when the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they understood that he was speaking about them. And although they were seeking to seize him, they feared the crowds because they were guarding him to be a prophet.  [00:18:48] Irony Blind Leaders [00:18:48] Tony Arsenal: Yeah, that, that last little section here is just such, it's like dripping with such irony,  [00:18:53] Jesse Schwamb: so good  [00:18:54] Tony Arsenal: that like they, they are so blinded by their own, um, I dunno, ambition isn't, maybe isn't even the right word, but something in that, that neighborhood, they're so blinded by their desire to. Maintain their own status quo, their own uh, their own status. That they fear the crowds because the crowds hold them to be a prophet,  [00:19:15] Jesse Schwamb: right?  [00:19:16] Tony Arsenal: When in reality, like there is a prophet in their midst and much more than a prophet, uh, and they can't see it because of their own blindness. So I'm stoked to get into it. This is such, like we said, this is such a, like on the nose, paril, it's crazy. This is so much like, you know, Nathan's, you are the man kind of parable. Like yes, that's right, except there never is a, you are the man moment for them. They never get it, which is. Stunning. Like I, I, it just sort of is like, I don't even know what to make of that. [00:19:41] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah. There is like a wild blindness. I've been thinking about that a lot in our past conversations, but it culminates here. These chief priests and elders, I would say strangely, but I think that this is probably true of all of us, and maybe especially me, perhaps not yet, like perceiving themselves to be the vine growers here in view, they render this verdict of severe justice. It seems like you, you wanna say to them? Like, guys, guys, pull up, hold up a second. Yeah. Take a step back before you overreact here, because you're about to condemn yourselves and in the Greek here, this expression like, miserably destroy these wicked men. Or it gets like this double wretched in our translations. Mostly he will bring those wretches to a wretched end. It's this rhetorical intensification. It's incredible. And I, I think there's at least like two truths here. That come to my mind. One is, we've talked about before, but is in line with what you're saying, that the natural conscience, when not even aware of its own complicity, can still discern the justice of God's judgments. So here are these men who are so prone almost, I think what Calvin says elsewhere, like that we have this hidden impulse to identify with justice. Even when we can't see that we are the ones perpetrating something of injustice, still we can't help but cry out. We can't even help but identify it. And here they. Accurately identify it. And even though they're putting themselves exactly in the cross here, they cannot help but basically cry out that how egregious this behavior is of these vine growers that Jesus has basically, you know, created in this hypothetical environment, even still there, they're filled with rage and the rage gets turned on them. So the Pharisees here, of course, function as this unwitting witness to the righteousness of God's wrath against covenant breakers, even though they, they don't see it.  [00:21:29] Kingdom Transfer Talk [00:21:29] Jesse Schwamb: Uh, the second thing I think that comes to my mind, and maybe this is like more to the point, is that. The verse foreshadows this transfer of the kingdom from the Jewish nation to a new people that would bring forth its fruits, which I realize if I bring that up right now, that we've just committed to like six episodes just on that topic probably. But yeah, but like, we're gonna have to come to it because there's so much here. And the phrase of this, like, let out his vineyard unto other vine growers or husbandman, it does to me like anticipate this calling of the Gentiles and the formation of the Christian Church and in, in this way. It's not to me. The abandonment of the elect, remnant of Israel, but it is like the breaking off of the natural branches and then this engrafting of the wild olive shoots that come through like Allah, Romans 11. So it's, it's not like from one nation to another simply, but from like the carnal seed to a spiritual seed gathered out of all the nations, that that's wild. Right? I, I think that's all in view here. And it's like a kind of a crazy thing to say. It's certainly like a wild thing to say, no pun intended. And I imagine like, unexpected thing to say.  [00:22:38] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah.  [00:22:40] Supersessionism Clarified [00:22:40] Tony Arsenal: Let's think about that a little bit because I think too, there's, there's almost an element of, um. Man, I'm gonna get a lot of flack for saying this. You're, there's almost like a legitimate replacement theology here, right? Like replacement theology. I got covenant theology, you know, reformed, um, reformed theology often gets slandered as, you know, supersessionism or replacement theology, uh, with this idea that like, it's, it's interest. Uh, you have to have dispensational presuppositions for that phrase to even make sense because like the reformed paradigm is that there is one people of God full stop. And yes, like the identity of the one people of God seems to sort of like morph from the Jewish national people to now like Jews and Gentiles and actually predominantly Gentiles in the scope of like the whole history of the church. But what I mean by this is like, there's a visible church in the Old Testament, in the old, under the old Covenant, and the visible church under the old covenant is the national people of, of Israel. Right. By and large. Right. Um, and there are, there are sort of like Gentile, um, Clingons, not like the Star Trek people, but like gentile, like attachments to that throughout the history of, of Old Testament, um, theology. Um. That visible, that visible identification of this is the people of God being the Jewish people. Uh, these are the people that are the vineyard, the, they're the, the owner or the tenants of the vineyard or the, the visible Jewish people of the geopolitical nation of Israel under the old covenant that does sort of like get superseded by the church in the church age, in the new covenant,  right?  [00:24:24] Tony Arsenal: But where, where Supersessionism or the accusation of Supersessionism goes wrong is that there is this distinction between the visible and invisible church. And that distinction is what prevents us from being like, sort of like true replacement theologians in the way that the, the dispensationalist wanna paint us. So I, I think you're right that there is a lot to say here about the fact that, um, and, and this is where it gets, um. We have to be careful systematically. Right. God, God doesn't have to pivot. He doesn't have like a plan B. It's not like the Gentiles are the plan B, but there is a sense in almost in which the way that this is presented, the way that it appears in the scriptures is actually, yeah, there is almost like this plan B, like there is the geopolitical ethnic people of, of Israel, the Jewish people under the old covenant. And, and they don't do what they're supposed to do. They don't follow the terms of their covenant. They don't accept the kingdom that is bequeathed to them under the terms of the old covenant. And they, they reject that kingdom because of a disobedience. And, and I think what Christ here is narrowing in on is it's not just disobedience, right? It's not sort of like, um, accidental ancillary disobedience. It's not generalized disobedience. It is this sort of like usurpation of God's rightful status as the ruler and king of the nation. That's right. The the people, the, the Pharisees. And the chief priests and the scribes and the Sadducees, they want to be the rulers of the nation. They want to, they, they seem to wanna take the place of God, at least as far as Christ is presenting it. In this, they wanna usurp the kingdom. They want to take the heirs, uh, rightful inheritance, and they want to claim it for themselves. That is not a generalized disobedience, it's a special t type of covenant unfaithfulness that causes God to causes and kind of air quotes that causes God to hand over the kingdom to another people. Right. Partially, I think, uh, we don't need to get into Romans, the Romans 11 stuff, but partially I think because that's actually the way that he's going to ultimately save the Jewish people, right, is by sort of making, making them jealous of the Gentiles. Like there's a, there's a real element of that, that the salvation of the Gentiles is actually for, in some sense is for or unto the salvation of the Jewish people or the, the faithful Jewish remnant that's all here. And, and you can't really get past that in this parable. Um, this is why I think a, a lot of dispensationalist, um, uh, some of the classic dispensational sources would actually see like this, this is not for the Jewish church. This, this is for the Gentiles. This is actually part of the parentheses, um. You know, and, and again, dispensationalist divide all that stuff up differently, but this is a really interesting section for us to talk about that we can't, we can't just gloss over that. [00:27:11] Jesse Schwamb: I certainly don't mean to imply that it's wild because it's unexpected. I think it's wild because interestingly, the Pharisees, the teachers here, they challenge Jesus authority and his response to that is to challenge their covenant faithfulness.  [00:27:24] Tony Arsenal: Right?  [00:27:25] Jesse Schwamb: So it's not just if he turns it around, he uses this opportunity to explain what's going to happen to them as those who are, like you said, were supposed to be representative. And I think critically like the qualifying phrase. That that's using the text here, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. That's like really important because these new vine growers are characterized by their fruitfulness. So this is not like a doctrine of works righteousness, but it's evidential fruit. And that's why, and I had to look this up and the Westminster Confession confession, chapter 16, good works are quote the fruits and evidences of true and lively faith, which I love. I was trying to find that language true and lively faith. So the visible church under that new administration is identified by the fruits of repentance, faith, and obedience worked out by the Holy Spirit. Again, I think that's all that is in view here, that that's a lot to say. But you know, famously, like you've kind of intimated, when we go back to the Old Testament, even we find when the Israelites leave triumphantly from Egypt, that they're accompanied by those outside of Israel. We find that other characters like Grh who continually want to identify with a Yahweh whom God is saving and drawing onto himself and here is kind. Him, Jesus, at least representing as the son of God. That kind of cli climactic view. Speaking from the prophet register again saying, this is what I was saying to Abraham. I said, like from your seed, all these nations in this spiritual sense will be gathered out. So there'll be a single nation as it were in Christ. And even now, I'm telling you, I'm breaking down those boundaries. But I think to your point, importantly Tony, in part because you have failed in the covenant promises and you who were to represent and to heed and to lead, have fallen down. And so now you're gonna trip over this stone and it's going to crush you. And as a result of that, the vine, the vine growers will be, or the vineyard itself will be turned over to those who bear this true and lively fruit.  [00:29:22] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah.  [00:29:23] Israel Failure Remnant [00:29:23] Tony Arsenal: There's an interesting, um. There's an interesting dynamic here that actually strikes me as kind of similar. It's a little bit more opaque, but similar to, uh, like Joseph in, uh, in Egypt, right when his brothers come and he says, you meant this for evil, but God meant it for good. Mm-hmm. There's a, there's an element of here, we've talked about the parables. That's sort of like systematic theology in story form. Um, there's a reality here that it's both true, that God always intended for the kingdom to be expansive and, and to expand beyond the nation of Israel. To be this universal, global lowercase c Catholic, universal church universal in the sense that it's not bound by any particular nation, by any particular geopolitical reality. Um. That's true, but it's also true that the reason, uh, on a sort of like horizontal level that that's true is that Israel failed. Right? It so God always intended for Israel to fail, yet Israel is responsible for the fact that they failed. Yes, that's right. Um, and, and, and again, we, we, we sort of commented on this before, like there are some in our broader reformed circles that turn this into a sort of antisemitism, like a sort of hatred for the Jewish people. And I don't think, I don't think that there's any warrant in scripture for that. In fact, I think scripture speaks strongly against that. Is that, um. Not necessarily because there's any particular unique special affection that God has for Israel, like, like the modern Jewish people, but, but that, like racism in general is prohibited by the Bible. But I think where we do need to be clear though, is that there is a real failure. It's a true, genuine failure on the part of the first century Jewish. Leaders and people, um, with a faithful remnant. Right? There was, um, we're, we're getting, you know, we're in the springtime and we've already had, uh, we've already had discussions about this. We've already done Easter, but like there is always conversations around Palm Sunday of like, are the crowds that are following Jesus into, into town screaming, you know, yelling, Hosanna? Is that the same crowds that are yelling crucify him a couple days later? Um, I tend to think like, no, like actually, like the people who are saying crucified, crucify Christ are probably like the Jews who live in Jerusalem or like the, primarily the religious leaders. There's a whole host of Jewish believers and kind of the hoy pallo, the, the people out in the country that absolutely follow Jesus. Like they follow him as the Messiah. They, they confess him in many cases. They convince him to be, um, they confess him to be God, to to be the savior, to be the, the figure from Daniel seven, the son of man. Um. There's a reality in which the Jewish remnant absolutely recognize Christ and they persist in the church, right? The earliest Christians were all Jews, and you know, there was a few Gentiles along the way, you know, and maybe not even Gentiles like Samaritans. I don't even know if you would call them gentiles. They're kind of this midway point, but in Jewish gentil. But there are people throughout Christ's ministry, right? Cornelius or not Cornelius, the Centurion recognizes that this is the son of God. Like there are people, the s Phoenician woman, there are people who are not part of Israel proper, who even in the, in the midst of Christ's ministry are recognizing him as God and as Messiah and as the savior of the world. But, but by and large, the earliest Christian movement was Jewish people. It was the faithful remnant of, of Israel who recognized that their Messiah had come. That is true. And at the same time. The, probably the majority, and especially the rulers and the leaders of the Israel, you know, the Jewish faith in the first century absolutely rejected him. And this is what I, this is what I think is wild, is I think sometimes we think that, um, the prophecies and the understanding of Christ and what the messiah, who the Messiah was to be and what to expect, we think of those as like super obscured and super hidden until Christ comes and then all of a sudden they're really obvious. Christ doesn't seem to treat them that way. Right? Right. He tells this parable and they rightly identify that, and this is a, this is such a thinly veiled parable. Like this is like, you killed the prophets. You're going to kill me. And there's going to be consequences. Like he practically says that outright. Um. He treats that as like they should obviously know this, right? The, have you never read in the scriptures, the stone, the builder rejected has become the cornerstone, right? This was the lord's doing. It is, and it is marvelous in their eyes that have you never read?  [00:34:06] Decree in Rejection [00:34:06] Tony Arsenal: That is a, that's a rhetorical question with the implied answer of, of course, you've read exactly like he's not, he's not teaching them something that he anticipated is new to them. He maybe is teaching them something that he anticipated they maybe you didn't recognize. But actually I think probably like, uh, there probably were many among them that were like, oh yeah, we are doing this. But then almost like we're powerless to stop themselves from moving forward in that.  [00:34:32] Jesse Schwamb: Right.  [00:34:32] Tony Arsenal: Sort of like wicked plan. [00:34:34] Jesse Schwamb: Right. Yeah. And I think we could extend that as well to say that this rejection of Christ by this Jewish leadership, which of course was a incredible failure, like you're saying, it wasn't an accident, it wasn't an unforeseen tragedy. So just like interestingly in Acts four in his sermon where Peter quotes from the same Old Testament passage about Christ being the cornerstone, you know, it was prophesied long before. And so the doctrine of God's eternal decree, I think finds v vivid illustration even here. This is all the Lord's doing. Yeah. And even the wicked rejection of the Messiah is serving this purpose, this sovereign purpose of God's great exaltation. And so it's fascinating, and we should marvel at the fact that, again, like God means what he says when he says like He uses what is weak to overcome that which is strong, or to embarrass the strong, he uses that which seems foolish. To make the wise themselves, the ones who are actually foolish in the same way.  [00:35:29] Cornerstone Unites Church [00:35:29] Jesse Schwamb: This very stone, which men in their malice cast aside on that day. God is in his wisdom setting as this chief cornerstone. And I love like that idea of this phrase, this head of the corner denoting that amazing preeminence of Christ, that Christ is not merely included in the building of the new Covenant church. He is its chief and constituent stone that joining together both like the Jew and the Gentile, finally into one structure. And that's really, I think to your point, that's the great mystery of the hidden ages from the past. That that's the thing which Christ is bringing to like this grand display, like out on the stage in the open, in front of everybody. He's drawing it up, he's calling it to account. And so in that way, the same Jesus that was rejected by men is in God's account of inestimable value. And that should be like, I think, familiar to most of us because like there a form tradition has always insisted that. The true theology always issues in doxology and the cross and exaltation of Christ are not merely these facts, which we give these intellectual ascent, but we, we confess them as mysteries which provoke us to adoration of who God is. It's the excellency of Christ expounding at length, like the wondrous conjunction of Christ's humiliation and his exaltation, which finds its pattern here, rejected by men, glorified by God.  [00:36:50] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah.  [00:36:52] Works Covenant Failures [00:36:52] Tony Arsenal: And, and this is, um, we, we commented in our first, uh, episode on this par ball. This is not isolated to just the rulers of Israel at the time of Christ, right? This is in reality, kind of like a reflection of every failure of the covenant of works. In some sense, every failure to hold the covenant of works boils down to an attempt to make oneself, God. Right. This was Adam's failure in the garden. Um, Eve, Eve was the first person to eat the fruit, but Adam, Adam was responsible for that and he, he also ate the fruit and they, they did so in part because they thought it was useful to make them like God and, and in an illegitimate fashion. And they knew it was an illegitimate fashion. It's not as though Adam and Eve suddenly were like, maybe we can eat the fruit. Maybe like we actually are fine to do it. Like they knew it was still forbidden. Right. They did it anyways. And the Pharisees here, um, are in a real attempt. Um, they are trying to take the role of Messiah for the people. They're trying to be the savior of the people in sort of shepherding and guiding them into this like. Ultra legalistic Puritan, like puritanical in the worst sense, um, kind of approach to the law. Um, this is the, the story of Old Testament Israel, right? What is the first thing that the Israelites do? Um, at Mount Sinai? The first thing they do is try to fashion gods so that they have a tame God that they can control and that they can actually be God's over. So I think this is really key and, and this is where it becomes practical for us, is that. I think we always are faced with a choice, right? There's, there's obviously those who are Christ, who the son is set free. He's set free indeed, and they will never not be his people. Like you never become not justified. If you were justified, you always forever more are justified. Justified is a final. It's, it's the future judgment of God's people dragged and dropped into the present and applied. It's the righteousness of Christ applied. So there, there's never a time where that righteousness is like removed or unapplied, but we are constantly faced with a choice as to whether we want to be the kind of people who render our fruit unto the Lord, uh, as the faithful, the sort of the implied faithful tenants that are going to be brought forward when the, the unfaithful tenants are replaced. Or do we wanna be the people that reap wicked fruit and keep for ourselves? And I think that's, that's really the thing. Like we're either gonna rep. Fruit of wickedness, or we're gonna reap fruit of righteousness. And the only thing to do with fruit of righteousness is surrender it to the Lord. But we often are faced with that choice, like, are we gonna reap our own wicked fruit and keep it all to ourselves right, uh, to our own detriment? Or are we gonna go ahead and be the faithful tenants that give the Lord what he deserves?  [00:39:46] Kingdom Transfer Explained [00:39:46] Jesse Schwamb: We're seeing so much of the simplicity of God here that like you and I have said so many times before that his loving kindness, his long suffering ness is his righteousness, is his justice, is his wrath. And so I think it's helpful, again, to remind ourselves that we're, we are talking, or he specifically is speaking of the kingdom of God here. And again referring to this visible administration of the covenant of grace, not to the inward and invisible kingdom of saving grace, which as you just said, can never be lost from those who possess it, which by the way is a really important distinctive of reform theology. There are many that would disagree with that statement, and I think really much to their harm in, in disagreement with the scriptures themselves, this one in particular, but it is this external administration, the privileges, the ordinances, the oracles of God. That is being transferred from the Jewish nation as a corporate body to a new and broader people of God. And because I know that sounds very extreme, I did look up Calvin and his commentary on this and let me read what he says because this is interesting. I think even this could possibly mis be misunderstood. But here's Calvin who can say it better than I. He says, quote by these words, he means that God would deprive the Jews of the honor and the privilege of being his peculiar people and would call the Gentiles that out of them he might form a church end quote. And going back to what you said earlier, I'm with you. I, I. I mean, this is not, I think as some have wrongly concluded, like replacement theology in like a wooden sense. I, I see this still as like this historical redemptive transition from the typological administration of the old covenant to the eschatological fulfillment of the new. And the elect remnant of Israel is not cast off, but the national like typological privileges are being transferred to the Catholic church, gathered from all nations. And in that, I really do see this wonderful confluence of God's loving kindness, his, his fidelity to the promises that he's made and his wrath being manifested all at once. And somehow Jesus, of course, in complete perfection, can bring that all to bear in this tiny little story.  [00:41:51] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah. And and isn't it just like the master teacher to like, put all of this baked into this? I mean, that's right. We think of this as like a long parable, like I think,  [00:42:02] Jesse Schwamb: right?  [00:42:02] Tony Arsenal: I think like it's, it's amazing how we think of parables as, you know, like this is a short one. A short one is a couple sentences, a long one is like a half a dozen sentences. Like, and of course like Christ is teaching broader than this. He's teaching more than this. Just, this is what's recorded by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. This is what Matthews preserved for us.  [00:42:22] Stone Breaks or Crushes [00:42:22] Tony Arsenal: But you're right, there's so much baked into this little parable and I think, um, there's something to be said about this idea of like. Not only do those who smash against the, the rock, the, the cornerstone, those who smash against the rock, like those who who fall on the rock are broken to pieces, but also the rock falls on others and smashes them to pieces. Right? And, and there's something to be said about the fact that, and I'm not exactly sure how I wanna articulate this, but it's only those who like recognize the proper place of the rock and don't either let it fall on them or don't smash themselves against it. You know, we always joke about like running through a wall. Like this is not a wall you're gonna run through. Like you're gonna smash into this wall and it's gonna crush you. And if you are, if you're not properly assigning the cornerstone it's placed, right? The cornerstone is, is the stone that's placed in the foundation of a building that all the other stones find their orientation and their proper alignment based on. [00:43:26] Jesse Schwamb: Right.  [00:43:26] Tony Arsenal: You might think of this sometimes. I've heard this articulated as like the, the arch stone. I think it's a little bit different than that. Um, but it, the, the idea is the same, right? Like there's a stone in an arch. If you think of like a classic Roman arch, you have these piles of stones until you put the final arch stone in. That, in that stone is what makes the arch stable. Until that point, either side can fall, but if you don't properly set that arch stone where it's supposed to be, then the whole thing is gonna crush you. It's gonna fall down on top of you at some point. I think this is a little different. This is the cornerstone of a, this is more like the cornerstone of a building. This is the stone that the rest of the building, building is oriented against and is aligned with. If you get that wrong, then you have a, you have like a crooked wall, a wall that's not set, that's not straight. It's not stable. What this is saying and what this, this prophecy right from, from Psalm one 10, I think I should probably look it up, but I haven't yet. But this prophecy that Christ is referring to this, this prophetic statement in the Psalms that he's assuming the audience is familiar with, right? I think that's a really important point. Like he's not only assuming that they're familiar with it, there's rhetorical force of kind of like, of course you understand this principle that there is a cornerstone coming. There is something or someone who is coming that all other things will be measured against. And if you're either in alignment with this, with this person who is coming or you're out of alignment with reality, this thing is understood by them. It just is so critical and I think like the, the, a lot of the parables don't have explanations built into them. Some of them do. We've talked about some of them. A lot of them don't, this one does, but it's kind of like a really surprising way to explain it. And there's so much, um, the more that I look at this, the more we talk about it, this really is so similar to David and Nathan, right? Right. When with the, the affair with Bathsheba, he is saying to the Pharisees, look, you're the man. Like, you're the one here. You're the guy. You guys are the wicked tenants that are gonna, you've killed the prophets. Right? Um, I'm losing my, my timeline a little bit, but John the Baptist either had been executed or would be executed shortly at this point, right? So like the, the most recent prophet either was already killed or, or Christ knew of course he was going to be killed. Um, he's saying, look, you guys are the ones that are doing this and you're going to kill me. Right. And this is obviously what the prophecy is, that you think you're going to come against the cornerstone, but in reality you're going to shatter yourself upon me. You think you're gonna come against me, I'm going to crush you. And rather than say, you know, as ba, you know, as David does, where he repents, he, he fasts and he, he refuses to eat. He's, he's in mourning over both the loss of his infant, but, but more so over his own sin, I think is the picture the text gives us. Um, he's mourning trying to uh, sort of like reverse God's decision, but there's a genuine repentance to it, right? That's where we get Psalm 51, like creating, clean me a clean heart, oh God, renew a right spirit in me. There's none of that for the Pharisees, there's none of that for the sadist of the chief priests. They just continue to smash themselves against this rock, not recognizing that it's actually the rock that is crushing them. [00:47:05] Jesse Schwamb: Yeah, it's, it's a bit like, I'm gonna speak like a little maybe beyond my depth here, but there's a little bit of like that Nathan, like Strategem, and then this is where I'm outside my own experience. And then a little bit like maybe like WWE the rock in terms of like. If you want some come and get some, right? It's a little of both. And of course the passage ends very tragically, well ends humorously by them, you know, saying that at some point they were like, they understood in these parables, again, this is one of three of the same kind of topic of variety, but that Jesus was referring to them, which is funny. You wanna be like, yeah, it took a, took a long enough, I guess, guys, but you finally got it. But then that last sentence of like, they still sought to kill him. So to your point, even after all of this, there wasn't repentance. And we do get these, I think, two very distinct judgements that are depicted here, which you've already kinda led us into this first, like, whoever shall fall on the stone shall be broken. You know, to me, I think that's invoking this idea that in this life, there we are, we can be brought to brokenness through the gospel and to fall upon Christ. And repentance. And faith is to be broken in self, in pride and self-righteous. It's a breaking that does lead to healing. But this second judgment, you know the one, but on whomever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder, grind him to dust, I mean. Man, think about what a vivid image that is. I mean, that's like the more terrible of the two. That that's like the, yeah. Final Es logical judgment of those who persist in unbelief and it, it admits there's like no remedy. So there are only two ways to relate to Christ. You either fall upon him willingly in faith and repentance, which is painful, but it is saving, you know, to have him fall upon us in judgment is final in damning, and so that's what Christ presents here. [00:48:48] Psalm 118 in Context [00:48:48] Jesse Schwamb: It's, it's both of these things and you're right, it is brilliant that he goes to Psalm one 18 even that as a setup, because as you've kind of already said, I love to think, of course that's, can you manner the tone in which this was said to these scribes and Pharisees? Because of course the, the secondary indictment here is like, listen, you guys who like your great pride is that, you know, the scriptures really well. Have you read this part is familiar to you. Yeah. Can you tell me where that is? So like, we, we should go there just, just quickly. This is Psalm one 18 because I think that here again is, as I'm hearing it in context. There are some verses surrounding this that I think we might be surprised that they come right on the heels of this idea of the stone. So just a couple verses. In Psalm one 18 being in verse 22, the stone, which the builders rejected, has become the chief cornerstone. This is from Yahweh. It is marvelous in our eyes. Here's the verses that we might not recognize. Come right after it. This is the day which Yahweh has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. Oh, Yahweh, save. Oh, Yahweh, succeed. Blessed is the one who comes in the name of Yahweh. We have blessed you from the house of Yahweh. Yahweh is God, and he has given us light by the festival sacrifice with corns to the horns of the altar. You are my God, and I give thanks to you. You are my God, and I exalt you. Give thanks to Yahweh for his good, for his loving kindness endures forever. And so this idea that there's rejoicing in which day, I mean, usually we kinda say that it's like, well, it's a beautiful day out. It's the Lord's day. This is the day that Yahweh is like that. That's true. But also here in particular, it is this blessed day of Yahweh giving the stone, which the builders reject and which has become the chief cornerstone. And that stone is some will run headlong into and shipwreck their lives and others will be crushed underneath it. And guess what? This is the day which Yahweh has made and we're gonna rejoice and be glad in that.  [00:50:41] Tony Arsenal: Yeah. Yeah.  [00:50:43] Mark's Angle on Fear [00:50:43] Tony Arsenal: The other thing I think, you know, we. Should, um, maybe not spend any time on, 'cause we're at like, out, like minute 50 of a 60 minute podcast. But just going to, to Mark's version of this parable real quick. Um, starting in verse, uh, this is chapter 12, verse 12. It says, and they were seeking to arrest him, but feared the people for, they perceived that he had told the parable against them. So they left him and went away. And the, the main difference here, the reason I'm reading this is Mark chooses a d. Concerning them. The verb is, or the preposition is Perry. So it's kind of like this idea that he was, he was sort of speaking around them. He was talking about them. Mark uses the, the preposition, proce, which is not, um, not against, in like the same, uh, direct sense. We might use the word against. That would be something like Kada. Um, but he's, he's speaking this parable towards them or to them, um, against them. He's, he's directing the parable at them. And this is, this is, we, we commented on this a little bit in the, the first episode here. Um, he is speaking to the crowds. But he's telling the parable about or against or concerning the Pharisees and the scribes, and they perceive this, right. The, the gospels here don't say that the crowds perceive this. Right. And I think that's key. Like the Pharisees basically look at this and say, uh, we better get this under control because he's talking about us. Right, right. Like, I'm just picturing Paul Washer's. I'm not trying to say Paul Washer is a Pharisee, although some people would probably make that connection. But like I'm, I'm just hearing Paul Washer's voice saying like, I don't know why you're clapping. I'm talking about you. He's speaking to the Pharisees here. And it's interesting because Matthew associates the, the, uh, Pharisees. Cowardice in acting against Christ, uh, because they fear the crowds and because the crowds believe Christ is a parable or is a prophet Mark associates. And again, both of these things are true, right? This is holy scripture. This is inspired, these are not contradictory accounts. This is facets of the same diamond. Mark associates this with, they fear the crowds. Um, because they had taken him. They, they understood that the parable was being spoken against them, right? So there's this element that the Pharisees are not only understanding that the, the parable is about them, they feared them because the crowds believe that Christ is a prophet and that prophet is speaking this parable against them, right? So like they're, they're recognizing full on that it's only a matter of time before the, the general population, the general people that are listening to Christ recognize that he's overturning. Not only the Pharisees, the entire geopolitical nation of Israel, he's overturning the ethnic based reality, the geopolitical based reality, that God's people have a zip code and that zip code is Jerusalem. That zip code is this little si, this little tract of land the size of like Vermont and New Hampshire in the Mediterranean, like off the Mediterranean Sea. He's overturning that. And the, the Pharisees, the educated people, the, the Sadducees, the chief priests, the rulers, they recognize it's only a matter of time before the people understand what Christ is doing. They, they follow him as a prophet and this is what he's prophesying. And

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This year marks 30 years since Backstreet Boys released their debut album and kicked off the '90s boy band craze. In this episode of History of the 90s, originally broadcast in 2020, we look back at the rise of boy bands, from screaming fans and synchronized dance moves to the fierce rivalry between Backstreet Boys and *NSYNC.Documentaries referenced in this episode:Backstreet Boys: Show ‘Em What You're Made Of (2015)The Boy Band Con: The Lou Pearlman Story (2019)Guest info: Maria Sherman, author of Larger Than Life: A History of Boy Bands from NKOTB to BTSwww.mariasherm.comShow info:Instagram: @that90spodcastEmail: 1995podcast@gmail.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"We're a little egoless. We're happy to just do the content, be a part of the lighting, or help anybody execute and create something cool." — Robb Jibson In this episode, I sit down with Robb Jibson, the founder and creative director of So Midwest, a Chicago-based production design firm. Robb has spent decades building the visual experiences that define live music for artists like Fall Out Boy, Incubus, and Panic! At The Disco. We discuss his journey from a teenager in Michigan to the center of the concert production world. Episode highlights The "Tetanus" origin story: Robb recounts his early days in a metal band called Tetanus and how an attempt to use car headlights for stage lighting led to a run-in with the law and a formative stint doing community service at the Frauenthal Theater. Touring with the Backstreet Boys: At just 19 years old, Robb landed a spot on a tour with the Backstreet Boys during the height of their popularity. The birth of So Midwest: Originally started as a tax shelter while touring with Incubus, the company name was inspired by a simple 1-inch button found at the Empty Bottle. The shift to motion graphics: Robb explains how the industry transitioned from "smoky beams of light" to complex video content and 3D animation around 2007. Working with Chicago legends: We talk about his long-standing relationships with local favorites like Alkaline Trio, The Lawrence Arms, and Chevelle. Follow So Midwest: Visit somidwest.com to learn more. Car Con Carne is sponsored by Exploding House Printing! Exploding House Printing is here for all of your screen printing, embroidery and other merchandising needs. They're local, headquartered in the heart of Hermosa, and their focus is on small businesses, bands, brands, and everything in between. They've worked on products for Meat Wave, Empty Bottle, the Music Box, Dante's Pizzeria, the Brokedowns, and the list goes on and on. Jonathan at Exploding House has been doing screen printing for decades. He knows what he's doing - besides his technical expertise, he delivers production efficiency and cost awareness to offer boutique print shop quality at much lower, large print shop prices. Check out their work on Instagram at (at)explodinghouse, or check out their site at exploding house printing dot com for a quote, or to see a list of some of their clients.

In the 1990s, a blimp enthusiast with a checkered business record inexplicably dominates pop music by assembling not one but two boy bands.SponsorsFishbowl - https://ohmyfraud.promo/fishbowl Get NASBA Approved CPE or IRS Approved CELaunch the course on EarmarkCPE to get free CPE/CEDownload the app:Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/earmark-cpe/id1562599728Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.earmarkcpe.appQuestions? Need help? Email support@earmarkcpe.com.CONNECT WITH CALEBLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/calebnewquist/SOURCES:Lou Pearlman [Wikipedia]Baron Blimp Lou Pearlman, head of Airship International Ltd., is fulfilling adolescent dreams of glory [Sports Illustrated]Lou Pearlman, Boy Band Impresario, Blimp Tycoon, and Bunco Artist, Dead at 62 [Slate]How Lou Pearlman used Backstreet Boys, *NSYNC to lure people into massive Ponzi scheme [ABC News]*NSYNC, O-Town members on learning the truth about Lou Pearlman [ABC News]*NSYNC vs. Backstreet Boys: The True Story Behind Their Epic Boy Band Rivalry [E! Online]Lance Bass on the 'NSync and the Backstreet Boys rivalry: 'The animosity was real' [Yahoo Entertainment]Backstreet Boys Turn 25: Untold Stories [Entertainment Tonight]Lou Pearlman Ran 1 of America's Biggest Ponzi Schemes [A&E]Pop Dreams and Ponzi Schemes [Schneider Downs]The "Con" in Trans Continental: Lou Pearlman [Gavin P. Smith]AS HE RAN, CASE WAS BUILT [Tampa Bay Times]IN JAIL AND ON THE PHONE, LOU PEARLMAN REVERSES THE CHARGES [Tampa Bay Times]Victims who lost millions in Pearlman Ponzi scheme could recover a pittance [WFTV]Backstreet Boys' Lou Pearlman's Prison Interview: My Ponzi Scheme Was Smarter Than Madoff's [The Hollywood Reporter]Lou Pearlman Dead: Remembering the Ponzi Schemer Who Spawned the Backstreet Boys, 'N Sync and More [The Hollywood Reporter]Lou Pearlman, disgraced creator of 'NSync and Backstreet Boys, dies [NBC News]Netflix's 'Dirty Pop' exposes Lou Pearlman's deceptive role in 'NSYNC and Backstreet Boys' fame [MSNBC]The True Story of Lou Pearlman in 'Dirty Pop: The Boy Band Scam' [Netflix Tudum]The True Story Behind Dirty Pop: The Boy Band Scam [TIME]10 Most Shocking Reveals From Netflix's Dirty Pop [Screen Rant]The Biggest Revelations From Dirty Pop [Den of Geek]Mad About the Boys [Vanity Fair]Inside the rise and fall of the record store chain Tower Records [Clicktrack]Viewpoint: The Backstreet Boys phenomenon [BYU Daily Universe]Remembering Lou Pearlman: The Ponzi Schemer Who Spawned the Backstreet Boys, *NSYNC & More [Billboard]The Boy Band Con: The Lou Pearlman Story [YouTube Originals]The Hit Charade: Lou Pearlman, Boy Bands, and the Biggest Ponzi Scheme in U.S. History — Tyler Gray

Send Mary and Kelsey a Message!In this episode, Mary and Kelsey are joined by singer-songwriter and y2k pop culture enthusiast Matt Bloyd to revisit TRL's all-time top 10 countdown. They talk Britney, Backstreet Boys, *NSYNC, Christina Aguilera, Blink-182, Outkast, Beyonce, and so much more. Matt also shares a sneak peek of his upcoming EP “A Part of Me" which debuts May 8 and features a Britney Spears cover with Alex (AJ) McLean of Backstreet Boys on background vocals! Follow Matt on IG at @mattbloyd and pre-save his new EP here: https://ffm.to/yekxmljLinks to past episodes we discussed:Rochelle McLean - Apple + Spotify Joseph Kahn - Apple + SpotifyDarrin Henson - Apple + SpotifyDevon Daniels (I Want It That Way music video) - Apple + SpotifyTania Baron (Danced back up for Britney Spears)  - Apple + SpotifyCarmit Bachar (Pussycat Dolls) - Apple + SpotifySupport the showInstagram: @whentheypoppedpodTikTok: @whentheypoppedpodEmail: whentheypoppedy2k@gmail.comWebsite: linktree.com/whentheypoppedSubscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=85610411

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Hoy en BUENOS DÍAS JAVI Y MAR! celebramos Sant Jordi, el Día del Libro: nos encanta la tradición de rosas y libros en Barcelona, y hasta nos metemos en la ciencia de por qué la tostada siempre parece caer por el lado de la mantequilla. También comentamos cómo en Finlandia están apostando por parques infantiles con suelos naturales para reforzar el sistema inmune de los peques. Un vídeo viral de un susto nos da pie a recordar nuestros momentos de pánico y hablamos con su protegonista, Fran.. También flipamos con la noticia de un multimillonario ucraniano que se compra el apartamento más caro de Mónaco. Nos reímos con una “encuesta absurda” de Fernando Martín y compartimos historias dignas de libro —como Vanesa y los Backstreet Boys—, y hasta los niños nos dan consejos para escribir mejor. Cerramos escuchando audios de niños cantando que nos sacan una sonrisa... pero si quieres escucharlo todo, que aún hay más... solo tienes que hacer click AHORA!!

Join Walter Sterling for a wildly unpredictable hour of late-night radio where suppressed alternative medicine meets gritty true crime and break-room snack theft. Dr. Stephen Ross drops by to discuss alleged century-old medical breakthroughs, exploring how researchers like Royal R. Rife and Dr. Bjorn Nordstrom purportedly cured cancer using light, sound frequencies, and electricity before being shut down by the pharmaceutical industry. Then, retired NYPD detective Vic Ferrari ditches the slow, earnest NPR true-crime style to tell authentic, cop-bar tales of nabbing brazen carjackers from a Brooklyn Lowe's and a Manhattan car wash. Between the madness, Walter checks his blood sugar live on air, exposes colleagues hoarding cherry toaster pastries, and shares a hilarious anecdote about radio legend Neil Rogers and the Backstreet Boys. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Send Mary and Kelsey a Message!In this episode, Mary and Kelsey are joined by Soulidified - Shade, Malik, Bradley, and Landon - the four-part harmony boy band bringing nostalgia back to pop music. Formed on Netflix's Building the Band, where they could only hear each other's voices before meeting face-to-face, the guys share their journey from their viral "U Remind Me" performance to training at the infamous boy band bootcamp with Johnny Wright (the legendary manager behind *NSYNC and Backstreet Boys) to wrapping the Bandemonium Tour with 3quency. Soulidified is proving that tight vocal harmonies and authentic boy band energy never went out of style, and they tease what's next for the Souldiers.Support the showInstagram: @whentheypoppedpodTikTok: @whentheypoppedpodEmail: whentheypoppedy2k@gmail.comWebsite: linktree.com/whentheypoppedSubscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=85610411

On this week's episode, we welcome the DJ to the stars, the phenomenal KnowleDJ! KnowleDJ has opened for music icons such as Backstreet Boys, Mariah, Ariana Grande, Ludacris, Flo Rida, and done VIP parties for Jay Z/Beyonce The Weeknd and Morgan Wallen to name but a few. In this candid conversation, KnowleDJ dives into his lucrative career, his rise through the ranks of the DJ world, and previews his upcoming book, "The DJ Diaries." He also shares invaluable advice for aspiring DJs looking to break into the industry. Don't miss this inspiring and insightful episode!

In this episode, we cover the latest developments within Peloton and the broader fitness industry. From executive leadership changes and brand strategy to upcoming marathon events and specialized training releases, we break down the week's most relevant news. Tune in for factual updates on instructor milestones, new class formats, and technical notes that directly impact your training routine.A detailed look at the recent New York Times profile on Peloton CEO Peter Stern.Insights from Peloton CMO Megan Imbres regarding the company's brand strategy, recently discussed at SXSW.Information on the appointment of the new General Manager of Apparel and Accessories.An update on the career move of the former head of Global Product Safety, Ethics, and Compliance.A recap of episode three of At The Next Table, featuring Matty Maggiacomo and Olivia Amato.The revealed event schedule for the upcoming London Marathon Weekend.Confirmation and explanation of the recent ride metrics issue affecting the hardware.Details on how the ILPA Forum EMEA utilized Peloton Studios London (PSL) for an event.A scheduling reminder that PSL is closed the week of April 14.A look at Ash Pryor and Benny Adami setting their sights on different HYROX fitness events.Coverage of Erik Jager and Jeffrey McEachern attending FIBO Germany.Information regarding Greta Dopp acquiring her Breathwork certification.Details about the My, Myself & I afterparty hosted by Camila Ramon.A scheduling note that Ally Love is no longer teaching the planned Backstreet Boys ride.Key takeaways from Matt Wilpers discussing the risks of overtraining on Reset.A breakdown of the newly debuted ad campaign featuring Heated Rivalry's Hudson Williams.The TCO Top 5, highlighting listener-recommended classes for you to add to your schedule.This Week at Peloton, rounding up the primary highlights from the past seven days.The TCO Radar, featuring specific classes you should be paying attention to right now.Information on the upcoming Long Run Marathon Class led by Susie Chan.A summary of the recently completed 100-Day Challenge.Details regarding the Peloton Studios New York (PSNY) April Run Club event.A review of the newly released Zone 2 Training collection.Subscribe to the podcast for weekly updates on all things Peloton, and leave a review to help others stay informed on the latest fitness industry news.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kelly and Sharon kick off the show with their 90's Playlist Picks of the Week and a recap of their concert night out seeing RAYE live in Montreal. The ladies share why her talent feels timeless and why Kelly believes she would have been just as fabulous if her career had launched in the 90's.   They also dive into Joey Fatone's new documentary "Boy Band Confidential" discussing how Joey took a different approach by featuring interviews with artists from LFO, Backstreet Boys, O-Town and Boyz II Men, along with a conversation about Lou Perlman's lasting and largely negative impact on the boy band world. The conversation then turns to the first weekend of Coachella including Jennifer Lopez's surprise appearance with David Guetta and Justin Bieber's stripped-down performance that had everyone talking.   Plus, Meryl Streep returns for "The Devil Wears Prada 2", Lady Gaga and Doechii team up for the soundtrack and Sharon shares what to expect from Roland Orzabal's upcoming "Welcome To Your Life: Love, Death, And Tears for Fears" autobiography.   The episode also features Kelly's Trivia and Sharon's 1991 Rewind. Thanks for listening to 90's NOW!

Forget the cliché advice to "get out" of your comfort zone; digital nomad Billy Lahr reveals why you should actually be working harder to get into it. In this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast, mindfulness coach and former dean joins Lesley Logan to challenge the "hustle culture" obsession with escaping comfort, arguing instead that we must distinguish it from the "complacency zone" by expanding our capacity from the inside out, much like stretching a pizza dough. Billy brings a refreshing, no-nonsense perspective on identity, curiosity, and the importance of maintaining a "centered self."   If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Master the art of curiosity to build deeper human connections. Differentiate between a healthy comfort zone and dangerous complacency. Reclaim your personal identity by identifying your ten life roles.Use mindfulness as a practical tool to manage high-intensity anxiety. Turn your unique strengths into a sustainable and purposeful life.Episode References/Links:Mindful Midlife Crisis - https://www.mindfulmidlifecrisis.comBilly Lahr Official Website - https://billylahr.comBilly Lahr Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mindful_midlife_crisisJumpstart Conversation - https://beitpod.com/billylahrjumpstartconvoJumpstart Your Midlife Workbook - https://www.mindfulmidlifecrisis.comThe Selfish Woman Podcast - https://valeriejones.ca/podcastEd Latimore - https://edlatimore.comYoga Ananda Chiang Mai - https://www.yogaananda.net/about-kru-nokGen X Jukebox - https://www.genxjukebox.comGuest Bio:Billy Lahr is certified mindfulness meditation coach, certified personal trainer, behavior change specialist, former educator, serial overthinker, and host of The Mindful Midlife Crisis, a podcast for people navigating the complexities and possibilities of life's second half. In 2013, Billy started practicing mindfulness as a way to manage mounting mental health issues brought on by professional burnout, social media harassment from students, and a lack of job satisfaction. In 2021, Billy left his job as dean of students in order to travel the world in search of more meaningful experiences and community. Since then, he's been a GPS for individuals aiming to live more mindfully and intentionally through recognizing and harnessing their strengths, exploring their curiosities, growing and synergizing with their network by fostering consistency, discipline, patience, and self-compassion. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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And I can tell you, just from my own personal experience, that a lot of that has exacerbated this feeling of isolation and loneliness and this longing for a deeper connection.Lesley Logan 0:31  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:13  All right, Be It babe. I'm really stoked for today's episode we had, I have the most fun talking to Billy Lahr as our guest, and it was really funny. We didn't talk about what he does until halfway through the podcast. And I don't want to ruin it. I don't want to spoil it for you, but we actually talked about comfort zones, and should you stay in them? Should you get out of them? And a whole lot more insights and I just think it's really fun. We talk about curiosity. And so I think you're just going to enjoy all of this. Oh, and the Be It Action Items at the end, fucking fabulous. You'll love them. So here you go. Here's Billy Lahr.Lesley Logan 1:45  All right, Be It babe. I'm super excited we have a total, like, true digital nomad as our guest today. Billy Lahr is here, and I kind of am obsessed. Because before I bought a house, and, like, settled in and like, loved being at home, my husband and I used to be nomads. Someone thought like we'll just be nomadic people. So we just dabble in it. But you do it full time. Can you tell us what you rock at and why you why you're a digital nomad?Billy Lahr 2:11  I rock at curiosity. I would say that's my superpower. I like to ask questions. I never, ever, whenever I meet people, I never asked the question, what do you do? That's the most boring question in the world. And there's a couple of reasons why I don't ask that. I actually got that tip from past guests on my podcast named Jesse Ross, and the way I look at it is, what you do, one, is usually the least interesting thing about you, like I taught, I taught English for 21 years. Everyone had one of me. Everyone knows what I did. So that's it's not fun for me to talk about that. Secondly, people generally don't like to talk about work outside of work unless they're super involved and they love what they do. Most people do what they do because it pays the bills. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and we'll come back to that a little bit later. But the third reason is, I think people over identify with their roles, their jobs. I live in Korea now, and I see that a lot, there is a pressure to have a certain status. And I feel like whenever you talk to people about what do you do, you can feel them recoil because they don't want to talk about it. So the first question I always ask all of my guests is, what are 10 roles that you play in your life? To me, that's a more interesting question. Now, the first four or five answers are always something familial. You know, for me, I'm a brother, I'm a son, I'm an uncle. Those things come like that. Then when you get into those later examples, you have to dig deep into what roles you actually play. So for me, digital nomad, Pearl Jam fanatic. I've seen Pearl Jam 54 times in nine states. I'm an avid paddle boarder. I've paddle boarded off five continent coasts. So those are the kind of things that are interesting and lead to better conversation. And because of my curiosity, I'm able to kind of wiggle my way through the mundane to get to those types of conversations.Lesley Logan 4:32  Yeah. I mean, I think, like, first of all, you're not wrong there. I go to a lot of parties, and of course, like, people are asking, what do you do? And this for me, most of the time, when people do ask me that I'm on a plane going somewhere and I and I'm like, well, it's gonna be really weird when I tell you what I actually do, because you're like, then why are you going to where you're going? That doesn't make sense. So it can be interesting and weird, but also, like not many people want to talk about their job, like you said, or it's like, it is the least interesting thing about them, or it's it is something that pays the bills. And so there are other things, but they're never asked that questions. They don't even know how to describe themselves or talk about themselves. And the fact that you're curious must mean that you meet cooler versions of people, like we can meet the same people, but because you can be more curious than me, you're gonna meet a version of them that, like I might have, like, missed because I asked the wrong question, or I didn't ask or not even the wrong question. I just asked a better question.Billy Lahr 5:27  My general rule when I talk to people, and this is going to sound a bit arrogant, but whatever. My general rule is, you need to be at least as interesting as I am, because I've lived a pretty interesting life, and if you have nothing to contribute, then, like, what value do you have for me in the conversation? So I'm going to dig around. I'm going to ask questions that maybe the normal person isn't going to ask. I had this situation pop up the other week, and there were two women who are like, I can't believe you just asked that. And I'm like, listen, if you don't ask, then you don't get the answers. So my dad always told me ask the worst anyone could ever say is no. So I ask, and those lead to better conversations.Lesley Logan 6:15  Yeah, yeah. I think, I mean, it is true, like I was taught that as well. It's like, if you don't ask, you got to know, and so you may as well ask, because if you get a no, then you know, and you can go find another way, but you could get a yes, and then it's like, oh my god, like you could get that. So I I completely agree. And I also think, like, you know, a lot of people are feeling lonely these days. I have to imagine, like, traveling the world if you're curious, you're never lonely, because you're always finding ways to talk to people and, like, get to know them. But people are lonely and they don't travel and they're surrounded by people, but I think it's because they're they're not getting to a deeper version of a person that they're talking to. So everything has surfaced all of the time.Billy Lahr 6:56  I'll tell you that the conversations that I've had with digital nomads is that being a nomad is incredibly lonely and isolating, because what you're doing is a lot of times, because it's such a transient community, is you're building these superficial relationships and people come and go out of your life. And I can tell you, just from my own personal experience, that a lot of that has exacerbated this feeling of isolation and loneliness and this longing for a deeper connection. It's very hard to maintain romantic relationships when you're on the move like this. So there is a part of me that does desire to just be in one spot. I'm someone who craves stability. I'm someone who craves structure. I crave routine. That's where I thrive. I used to work in education. Bells told me when to start and stop my day. So this is a huge leap, and I'm not not a fan of this idea of get out of your comfort zone. Shut up. I've been working really hard to get into my comfort zone. Let me sit in my comfort zone, but where I tell people to be cautious of is when we start to get into the complacency zone. So when things start to feel complacent, that's when we need to stretch our comfort zone like it's pizza dough. And you don't pull pizza dough from the outside. Only heathens do that. You push pizza dough from the inside, and where you see it's thin, you put some flour, you put a little bit more dough, and you massage that in there, and you stretch out that pizza dough. If someone tells you to get out of their comfort zone, I don't know if we can swear on here, you can just tell them, you know, shut the fuck up. I'm good in my comfort zone, but you need to take a look at, am I in my comfort zone, or am I, am I in my complacency zone? Right now, I'm definitely stretching my pizza dough because I was working a full time job. Now I'm back to freelance, and things are a bit more, you know, unstable. So, you know, I'm I'm trying to build some things, I'm trying to rebrand some things, and it all takes a lot of hard work, and there's a lot of uncertainty in there. And listen uncertainty as a very anxious person, as a very high intensity person, uncertainty does not sit well with me. So I'm very much navigating through all of this.Lesley Logan 9:31  This is so interesting. You are an enigma. But okay, first of all, I actually agree. I think there's something about getting out of your comfort zone all the time that the overachiever is listening to, that's the causing burnout, and it's causing extra stress. It's like, my if you're a high achiever, you're rocking it. That just means you like big things and you're doing those things, the overachievers, that's when you're like, I got to get outside of my comfort zone. It's like, but you haven't like you just said, I want to try to get in my comfort zone. It's like, that's interesting. How often have I just, like, sat still and, like, enjoyed the comfort that I created, you know, like, but do you mind? Can we dive into the complacency zone? Like, when you say that, like, the signs and symptoms you're in a complacency zone, the what, what came to mind is, like, you complain about the comfort zone. You kind of come like, you kind of complain about your, oh, the things in your life, or the things around your life, like that might be, to me, a sign, or sometimes you're in complacency, like you're good at what you do when you're still complaining about it. Is that one like, what are some signs that you're in complacency?Billy Lahr 10:30  That's a great question. So here's a perfect example, when I have new clients when so I was teaching business English here in Korea, so I wasn't teaching at a hagwon with elementary school kids. I've done with public education in that regard, I want to work with adults. So I was working at Hyundai and Kia and teaching their employees Business English. And so when I first meet them, I want to know, hey, what are your hobbies? And a lot of them will say, especially if they're parents, especially if they're new parents, my hobby is my child. Ding, ding, ding, complacency zone. So listen, let me, let me preface this by saying I'm not a parent, so I don't know what it's like to have a child. I don't know what it's like to sacrifice those things. What I do know is that my parents still did things despite having three kids. My dad sang in an all men's choir. Both my mom and my dad played softball throughout the week. They did things that still interested them so that they could socialize with people. So I think especially here, there is this emphasis on making sure that your child grows up and has a more successful future than what you have. And what I notice is that there's a lot of snowplow parents, we'll call them. Lesley Logan 12:00  Yeah, we have them in the States. Billy Lahr 12:02  Yeah, yeah. So I feel like when that happens, you lose your sense of identity again. We come back to this idea of identity, yeah. So where can you find identity? And it's through curiosity. And remember, it's you're not just one identity. You're playing many roles. So if you take a look at those 10 roles, and if you can't come up with 10 roles, that's another perfect example of, hey, maybe you're in this complacency zone. When was the last time you participated in one of those roles? Are all of these roles about someone else, because if they are, you're losing that sense of identity. So how do you go out and explore those? Easier said than done but that comes, that comes from self-awareness. It comes from sitting with your thoughts, your feelings and your emotions, sitting with what you want, and coming to a realization that, okay, I feel like, you know, we talk about being selfish and we talk about being selfless. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with being selfish if you've been overly selfless. So in the middle, you know, we talk about self-centered Well, what about centered self? That's ultimately where we want to be and when we want to be a centered self, it means that we need to be able to provide for others while also providing for ourself. Lesley Logan 13:34  Yeah, I agree, like we've talked on this podcast before, how I think selfish has to do a rebrand, because, like, very rarely have I experienced the people that I have talked to, the stories that I've heard, or the listeners that we have actually being selfish assholes, like most of the time when they think they're being selfish, they're just prioritizing their self. Billy Lahr 13:54  I want to direct everybody to Valerie Jones. Valerie Jones has a podcast called The Selfish Woman. She was a guest on the mindful midlife crisis. I think it's episode 57. Valerie is great, and she's done this excellent job of rebranding this idea of what it means to be selfish. So check that out.Lesley Logan 14:14  Yeah, okay, I might want an intro to her, because, like. Billy Lahr 14:17  You have to she's great. Lesley Logan 14:18  Done. We're doing it after this. Okay. Because, like, but I think like the centered self also, like I do, I do love that you challenge people who who are, who are parents, as a role, that if they don't have something outside of their kids, it, it doesn't actually help your kiddo out. Like we have seen these kids get older. We now have the Gen Z kids and these kids, and they haven't experienced disappointment, they haven't experienced a loss. They have it at a young age, because you just snow plowed all of it for them. And so now they're 20 something years old, and they're learning for the first time what it's like to fail at something that is a hard thing to do, that's hard. You got to learn it when you're younger. So I'm with you.Billy Lahr 14:57  And here's the I know people are like dude, you don't have kids. Mind your business. Okay. Let me give you another example. My former co host, Brian on the Bass. We call him Brian on the Bass because he plays bass in every band in the Twin Cities in Minnesota. He decided to, like I said, he's been playing bass in all of these bands. He records here and there. He developed. He he branded this new band called Gen X Jukebox. This is a guy who has three boys, boys, just or sharknadoes spinning around his house. They had a whoopsie. All right, they had a bonus baby. Sorry, they had a bonus baby when they were in their 40s, but he's still doing all of these things. They bought a bus and they turned it into a schooly, it's something that he and his wife did together. So listen, if you're listening to me and you're like, you childless, you childless piece of shit, you don't know what you're talking about. Okay, fine, fine, fine. Who are the other examples out there who are fulfilling these these roles, and take a look at your own and just say, Okay, what are things that I used to do that I don't do anymore? Or what am I curious about today that I want to learn more of?Lesley Logan 16:16  Yeah, I think that's so true. And I, for people, been listening to this podcast for a really long time, like the first three years of the podcast, I was like, I'm on a hobby hunt. And then people like you don't have hobby like you have so many hobbies. I'm like, No, I have a lot of hobbies that turned into pay. Like I got paid to do them, and the moment I'm getting paid to do them, I don't feel them as a hobby anymore. It's now a job. And I love what I do. I have no complaints. I love all of the aspects of my job, because I get to decide if I don't want to do them anymore, but I want to find a hobby, and I recently found one in the last year. And people are like, Oh, well, because I'm like, way up in Tarot right now. So however people feel about that, I don't care. I love it. I'm having the best time. And people like, Oh, are you gonna do a reading for me? And I was like, No, it's my fucking hobby. You can get your own reading. Go pay someone like, so I find that, like, it's really easy for people to, like, start doing something, and then people go, Oh, then you could do it for me. And it's like, I do find things that you could be curious about and, and I don't care if people want you to do it for them. You don't have to full permission from the pod permit. You get to just like, be curious about them and let them be with their or you can also change your mind. I do think that's another thing people have to realize. Like, you could be go, oh, I used to love to snowboard. And then you can go and go, Oh, I hate it now. That's fine. You can just don't worry about the sunk cost. Billy, you've mentioned your dad a couple of times, and I know that, like your dad had said something to you when you were a teacher, like, do you mind? Can we dive into that? And like, how that has shaped where you are today?Billy Lahr 17:42  Yeah, yeah. So, you know, my dad is a character. He's like Rodney Dangerfield in every movie. He's got the sexual innuendos. But you know, everybody knows who he is. Everybody calls him uncle D. So you know that this is just kind of guy that my dad is, but I remember him, my dad. He's a he's a farmer, he's a tinkerer, he he is a natural salesman. This guy is a renaissance man, and I think there's a small part of him, and he'll never admit this, that's maybe a little disappointed that I didn't get into, you know, being the the farm kid, or being the hunter or that sort of stuff. And instead, I got into I played sports, and I really got into books, and I got into writing. So I became an English teacher and and I remember one time he said to me, I hope you're a good English teacher, because you will starve if you have to do anything else. And he said it with love. He said it with love. He said it jokingly. But this is that's kind of what I've been figuring out here the last four years, because I left education in 2021 and I've been trying to figure out, okay, what is it that I'm good at that I can monetize? Is because there are and by monetize is being get paid for, right? Lesley Logan 19:05  Yeah, well, because the world we requires us to pay bills and so we have to figure a way to monetize something that we're willing to do for many hours of a week yeah. Billy Lahr 19:14  Yeah. And I think that's, you know, I've been, I've been figuring that out the last four years now I feel very, very lucky, very privileged, that one thing that he taught me was how to save and how to invest. So I've been able to travel around here the last four years with the money that I've saved, with the money that I've invested. I took this last year to work in Korea full time, because, like I said, I needed that stability, I needed that structure, I needed that routine. So in all of that, I've been experimenting. My wonderful friend Jill Daler talks about using the world as her laboratory and just seeing what works. And listen, lot of things have failed that I've done the last few years, and I think a big part of that is because I don't know how to market myself, and I don't want to play the algorithm game, because I grew up in the 90s, and the biggest sin in the 90s was selling out.Lesley Logan 20:20  Oh yeah, okay, so what? You're a little older than me, I think, but I do recall, you know, hearing people.Billy Lahr 20:26  I told you, Pearl Jam is my favorite band all those Seattle grunge bands. What did they teach us? They taught us don't sell out. Selling out is the greatest sin of it all, and this idea of marketing and playing the algorithm game and using clickbaity titles, it's so vomitus to me, and it feels disingenuous to who I am as a creative spirit. But then there are a lot of starving artists out there, so as I'm going through this rebrand, I'm thinking to myself, listen, maybe you need to play the game, because the last time I saw Pearl Jam, you want to know who was sponsoring the show, Amazon Music. Okay, so if Pearl Jam can come around to, you know, corporate, corporate suggestion, corporate support, then, then maybe I can play the game too, because, you know, who am I to Pearl Jam? Lesley Logan 21:22  But also, and here's the thing, like, I completely agree with that on a I own, on my own way, and that, like, the way that I could have had more followers, more subscribers on YouTube much sooner, given the industry I am, is to just be a little bit skinnier and make sure that I only work out in a tiny sports bra and tiny shorts. And like everything is about abs and glutes, abs and glutes, abs and glutes, and it's like, but that's not the way I teach. That's not the Pilates I teach. I actually am extremely like conscious that people just feel good in their body, that they don't think that fitness actually is how you lose weight, because it's not, it's how you eat and hormones and all that stuff, sleep, water and all these different things. However, 10 years into my YouTube channel, I just have 40,000 subscribers, and my friends have millions. So what I had to figure out is like, How can I understand what the titles have to be, and then be fucking honest with people in the video? So can you lose weight with Pilates? Is not like or like Pilates and weight loss like something that'd be so clickbait against me. It's like, okay, so let's talk about what real, actual weight loss is, if you how do you know you need it? And if Pilates can do it. And so I had to find a way to like, Okay, how do I digest the click bait? But then be honest and authentic. Because the other reality is, is like, No, you said starving artists, but like the impact that you and I want to make on this world, no one hears about it if it doesn't get put in front of their face and so and so you either have time or you have money. And the thing about the algorithms is you can have no dollars, but get your message out there. That's not something we could do in the 90s. Pearl Jam would have to pay for ad space and radio space and all this stuff. So I do feel like there is some swallowing of of some of it to go. Okay, well, what can I live with? Like, what's my value process there? And it has helped me immensely, because while I still don't have millions of subscribers, all the ones I do have, I got organically, and they actually like the message I have, you know, and even if they didn't subscribe, it at least got the truth, and then they can go do with what they want, you know. So that it's an interesting thing, but it is hard, because I fucking hate the game of the algorithms. I think it's annoying. It's frustrating, but also people are overwhelmed and exhausted and in complacency, and so how do we get them out? I don't know.Billy Lahr 23:38  Yeah, yeah, it's funny. It just dawned on me that I haven't talked about, like, what service I provide and and I think this is gonna be funny. This is gonna be funny now, if people have listened to me throughout this and they're like, this guy's kind of a spaz, that's why I'm a certified mindfulness meditation teacher.Lesley Logan 24:01  Well, your message, your message.Billy Lahr 24:03  Right, right. So what I tell people because people will tell me, like, you're pretty intense for you a meditation teacher, yes, I practice mindfulness so that I can be this obnoxious, because if I wasn't, I'd be a complete and total asshole. So I practiced it so that I can stay here in this area, because when I wasn't practicing, then I was very anxious, and that was manifesting in the depression, and that was manifesting in some other darker thoughts. So this brand of mindfulness that I share, it isn't it isn't granola. It is, it is, it's, it's more just like, hey, here's what we need to do. I'm not going to tell you to follow your passions. I'm not going to tell you that everything happens for a reason, because I don't believe in those things. But here's what I do think is practical, and here's an easy first step. And that, then, in turn, allows me to be genuine. And I like what you said there, like, yeah, we can have a clickbaity title as long as the content within the video is genuine and it's and it's authentic to who we are. When you listen to my meditations, I can be very can go into that meditation voice, and I can be very soothing, and I know that's what that audience needs, if they click on that meditation but if they're listening to an interview, you're going to get me at high energy, because I love being behind a microphone. That's why, like, I found ways to emcee events here in Seoul, just by, you know, you talk about, see it till you be it like or be it till, which one is it? Lesley Logan 25:50  I like the way you said it, I think it's great. Billy Lahr 25:52  No, no, because I actually wrote about this in one of my newsletters, because once your team reached out to me, I was like, see it till you, be it, does that make more sense? But then you were talking about, be it till you see it. And I was, I was volunteering as my volunteering with my services as an emcee for these live music events around here, not getting paid for it, but not expecting to. I was just doing it because it was fun. And then over time, the band that I was emceeing for, they're a band called The Johnny Birds. You can check them out on Spotify. Please do people. They were like, hey, every time you emcee, people donate more money, so we want to include you in on that. And I was like, oh, whoa. Like, I did not expect that, but it was so generous and thoughtful of them to be like, no, you're part of this band. It as part of the live show to some degree. So we want to make sure that we show our appreciation. And that was just me being it, yeah, and then all of a sudden, you know, I saw the money.Lesley Logan 27:04  I so first of all, I pretty sure you, you did write a newsletter, and you sent it to my team, and I got it, and I was like, this is so cool. I haven't met the person yet. Look at the impact we're having. I really love that, because I love that story, because I do think so many people are, like, waiting for it to be all figured out and figuring out how much do I charge for this, and what's the process? And it's like, but that has never been how anything has happened for me. Everything has happened by like, acting like I have an idea of what the fuck I'm doing, even if I don't doing the best I can, and then, like, seeing what happens, and all of a sudden it's like, oh, I'm four steps up the stairwell already, like it just happened, and then other people see it, and then see you do it, and they're inspired by that. And then they're like, Oh, you must know what you're doing. I'm gonna hire you for this thing, or whatever it is. And so I think a lot of people are waiting until they have their business card ready and they practice in front of the mirror. So I love that story so much, and I think it's really cool. And also, you have an innate thing, and we talked about this before, but like, you are a really good cheerleader for other people. You have a really good and that kind of goes back to, like, you have a hard kind of time. It's not selling out, but like, marketing yourself, as you said, because, like, you almost are like, the backup babe for so many people. You're like, ready to launch all their stuff.Billy Lahr 28:19  Oh yeah, give me the pompoms, man. I'll be the cheerleader. I'll be the cheerleader if you're doing good things, I'll absolutely be the cheerleader for you. And that's, I think that's where I went wrong with my own podcast, because I started off by giving people a platform to share their experiences and expertise, and I was having these really fascinating conversations. And then I started working with a podcast business coach, and bless his heart, he's he's a really great dude, but we didn't share the same vision. My vision was to give people a platform to share their experiences and expertise to my listeners, so that, and I just wanted to have those conversations with really fascinating people. And his idea was, well, hey, the only way that you're going to make money is if you market your coaching services. So it went completely and I hate sales. I hate them. I hate them. I hate them. I don't have my dad's sales acumen. It's I just would rather talk to other people and celebrate other people. And, you know, I feel like, you know, then people are like, oh, you know you're really good at the interview part. Oh, thank you. Like, that feeds my, my need for words of affirmations, like, You're really good. I'll tell you that I had Ed Latimore on my podcast. And Ed does thousands of podcasts in his lifetime. He's an author. People, check out Ed Latimore. He's got a book now called. Lesley Logan 29:53  You're doing it right now, Billy, you are promoting someone else. Billy Lahr 29:57  He said and here's the I've never met Ed in person, I've only met him through Zoom, but he's a really fascinating dude. And when we got done, he said, You know what? You're really good at this. And it kind of caught me by surprise, because Ed, Ed grew up like in the mean streets of Philadelphia, and, like, he was a professional boxer, you know, he literally doesn't pull punches, so he tells it like how he sees it. And that, to me, was one of the nicest compliments I've ever received. And I said, that means a lot to me, because I feel like you've done a lot of these. And he said, I have done a lot of these and and you're really good at this. And that, to me, again, goes back to the be it till you see it like I was just, I'm just asking questions. I'm doing the research and and asking questions. I hate when people send me their media flyers and like you can ask these questions. Guess what? That's a guarantee I'm not going to ask any of those questions, because then you have canned responses. I'm going to go and listen to the podcast that you did on other shows, and I'm going to write down all of the follow up questions that I think that the host should have asked you. I'm going to go to your website and I'm going to ask you specific things about your website. I'm going to read your book, and I'm going to ask you things that stand out to me in your book, because that's where real conversation comes. It doesn't come from these canned questions. And like the more that we understand other people, the more curious we are, and the more you know, harmonious of a society we can be.Lesley Logan 31:36  I think it goes back to like being you're a mindfulness coach like you being curious about other people and them being able to, like, hear that conversation requires mindfulness, because it requires them to be aware of any of the fucking things that they actually do in their life. Like, it's like, I think a lot of people go through the day, and so it actually doesn't surprise me that that's what you coach on. And also like, why you're a curious person. To me, they kind of go hand in hand. I also like, look, because we we coach Pilates instructors who are like, I just want to teach, you know, because I love what I do. And I'm like, the IRS doesn't care that you love what you do. If you have a business, they are going to audit you if you haven't paid taxes a couple years like they expect. They're going to give you a couple years to fuck around, and then they're going to expect their money. So I love that, and also I have to make sure that you, like, can pay your bills. So I appreciate your coach going. I want you to make your night, but there are so many different ways to make money around things. And you know you being until you see it in the beginning is a perfect way to, like, kick off your podcast and figure it out, because I don't think there's one way to make money with podcasts. I think there's a billion ways, and you'll find the one that works for you. And you don't have to be an actual, like, quote, unquote salesperson to do it. So I see it happening, and it probably already has, because you're still doing why would you podcast if it wasn't working for you? Billy Lahr 32:56  I'll be honest, I hauled I put a pause on the podcast back in March because it, it was, it was, like, in a toxic relationship, because, like, I couldn't quit it. I was, you know, I would, I would pause, and then I would keep going back to it, and I would pause, and I keep going back to it, and I pause it, and I haven't recorded in a while, and I don't have any intention of going back to recording it at this time, if things were to change then, then I would maybe, maybe this rebranding, you know, blows up. Then it's like, oh, okay, now I can go back to doing this, but I don't miss it, but at the same time, I feel really good about what we created. Like, we recorded over 100 episodes, and most of those were episodes with guests. And I'm really proud to look at that guest list and be like, Okay, we were 50-50, with men and women. We, you know, we were when it was, when it was me and Brian on the Bass, you know, it was two straight white guys, right? But we had a very diverse collection of people from the LGBT community, people of color, like, you know, we really sought out or, like, it was my show, I sought out people and different voices. And I think that that that's really important, because we need to get out of that, of that silo of what we see in here, and I think that's another sign, too, of complacency, if we go back to that, that if you're looking at and you're getting the same messages, whether, whether it's MSNBC, whether it's Fox News or whatnot, not even a news channel, if it's just the same messages over and over and over again, who's challenging that, and in then, in what way are you being curious?Lesley Logan 34:48  Yeah, yeah. I think, I think that's really true. I think a lot of people, they well, it's hard when your thoughts are challenged. It's much easier to just go, oh no, everyone around me thinks this way, and it's definitely challenging. I have family members that we have conversations, and I can tell what they're listening to, and I'm like, What are you like? What? Okay, let's for example, it was just Halloween. Here we're recording this, and I had someone tell me, Oh, this. They are this tool where you can easily see if there's drugs in the kids candy. And I said, I'm so sorry. I just have to ask, who the fuck is putting drugs in the candy? Who is doing this? People do. No one does. How would that kid get hooked on that drug and know which house it came from? It isn't a bag. Drugs are very expensive. No drug dealer is just giving drugs out for free in hopes that he hooks these children on drugs and then they'll then come looking for said drugs. Like, they wouldn't even know what drug they had to go buy it. They wouldn't even know what high they're on. This makes zero sense to me. I cannot participate in this fear mongering bullshit. I'm like, you have to like, you don't have to like, just go think about it. But no, every Halloween I have to hear it, there's probably drugs or needles. There's needles. I'm like, you can Google, are there needles in kids candy? And it will say no,Billy Lahr 36:06  it happened once. So it must happen all the time.Lesley Logan 36:08  Happens all the time. There are people like, what are so anyways, I but I do think people don't want to challenge their thoughts, because we're because there is something comfortable about being complacent, you know. So I think it requires people to be ready to be challenged in that way and want something different. I think it's also really cool. You know, it's not easy to start or stop anything like some people can don't get started. Some people get started, but they never stop. And podcasts, y'all are hungry babies. My YouTube channel is a hungry baby, and it never grows up. It will never, it'll never produce its own content. It will always require people me to show up and be present, people to want to be on this podcast, people to listen to the podcast. It will always require those things. And so it's pretty like, it's a pretty challenging thing to make a decision like that, and then, like, figure out what you want to do from it. So I don't know. I think it's cool, you know, what you're doing, what you're exploring. I would love to know, what are you like, are you excited about anything right now? Do you have a new country on your plate? Like, what's coming up next for you, Billy?Billy Lahr 37:09  Yeah, so I'm current, like I said, I'm in I'm in Seoul right now, but I am heading to Kota Kinabalu in Malaysia. I have yet to be to Malaysia, and then I'm gonna go to Kuala Lumpur. Kuala Lumpur was on my original list four years ago, and then it just kind of fell to the wayside. So going there, and then I'm going back to Chiangmai, because I love Chiangmai. You know, if you're Pilates, you probably have a lot of people who are like yogis, that travel around, so come to Chiangmai, and if you're in Chiangmai in January and mid February, let's go take a class together at Yoga Ananda. Because Kru Nok is the single greatest yoga teacher in the history of yoga teachers. She has this presence about her, like it's, I'm almost like a teenage girl outside of TRL on Backstreet Boy day every time she walks into the room, because I'm just like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. And it's not she's strikingly beautiful, of course, but it's her presence, and it's the way that she leads the class where I'm just like it, I'm just so impressed with with just the way that she instructs and the way that she adjusts, and it's really impressive. So yogi's out there.Lesley Logan 38:31  How natural, I have to follow up with you because we do like Chiangmai. We were just there last a year ago, and we were there after the floods. And it's, it's a beautiful, beautiful place. We were in Chiang Rai before that, and I kind of like Chiangrai, but my husband Chiangrai, but my husband really liked Chiang Mai, so I feel like we'll probably be back in Chiangmai, but that's cool.Billy Lahr 38:47  Yeah, but then I'll be back, I'll be back in the States, in case anybody is like, you know, I actually want to, I want to, I want to meet this guy, or I want to be in the same time zone as this guy. I'll be back in the States in April, because my niece is getting married in May. If she wasn't getting married, I would have no intentions of coming back to the States. But, yeah, you know, I suppose I should be there for that I should be the funcle.Lesley Logan 39:07  Also, also, it'll be it's always good to, like, step back into the place that you came from just to kind of see how far you've gone. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's easy. It's an easier way to look in the rear view mirror. We're gonna take a brief break and find out how more people can find you online, instead of running into in Chiangmai and your Be It Action Items. Lesley Logan 39:28  All right, Billy, where, so you're a mindfulness coach. Where can they connect with you, meet you, work with you on Zoom. What do you got?Billy Lahr 39:35  Yeah, if you want more from the podcast, you can go to www.mindfulmidlifecrisis.com and you can sign up for the Jumpstart Your Midlife Workbook, and you'll be part of my newsletter too. That way, you can hear all all the times that I talk about Lesley's show, and you can find out where I go. I talk about my travels in there as well. I kind of give recaps of life lessons from the past episodes in that newsletter as well. If you're curious about what I do, you can go to www.billylahr.com it's L-A-H-R. If you want to check that out, I have a YouTube you can check out those. And I'm rebranding all those, so they're gonna be all sort of clickbaity titles. In case you don't like my esoteric titles that I've been using in the past. You can follow me on Instagram, mindful_midlife_crisis and you can follow me on LinkedIn, Billy Lahr, yeah, come check me out. Say hi. Let me know if there were any takeaways from this episode, things that I said that you were like, oh, I really like that, or things that I said where you're like, dude, you're full of shit. Let's talk about it. Lesley Logan 40:42  I think that both are great, though both has strike wonderful, curious conversations. I also want to say, way to go, way to promote all the things look at you. Look at you, Billy.Billy Lahr 40:52  I mean, I invested in that stuff. I might as well, yes, I might as well talk about them. So, yeah, absolutelyLesley Logan 40:59  Okay, you've actually given us some great stuff, but we always do the always do the the I totally listen, but I still want action steps at the end, be it, bold, executable, intrinsic or targets that people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Billy Lahr 41:11  Yeah. So the first thing that I tell people is to figure out what are your strengths, right? So this whole idea we talked about, follow your passion is complete and utter nonsense, passion is not a starting point. Passion is a byproduct, and it is a byproduct of this formula. Remember, I like structures, so we're going to have formulas. So step one, figure out what you're good at. Where are your strengths? If you don't know, ask somebody. Take a personality profile test. I actually have one in the Jumpstart Your Midlife Workbook that you can take. That's what this whole the whole workbook is about. This, these steps right here. Secondly, what are you curious about, and how can you leverage those skills and those strengths to learn more? And then third, find a community, find people that you can connect with, all of that will help you identify your purpose. And then, if you want to turn purpose into passion, you just multiply that by consistency, discipline, patience and self-compassion. Everybody talks about the consistency and and the the discipline, nobody ever talks about, the patience and the self-compassion, you got to have those two. And then what you'll find is, oh, you figure out what it is that you're passionate about. To me, passion is something that you will do on the weekend for free because you enjoy it so much, don't monetize it. You don't have to monetize it. Just do it for you. Do it for fun. And if, over time, you've like, oh, okay, like, maybe, maybe I can make a little side hustle with this. Go for it. But then remember, it's no longer a passion, it's a job. So keep those things in mind and just follow those steps, especially those first three, those are the big three right there. And you'll it'll give your life a little bit more meaning, and it will help you stretch that comfort zone. Lesley Logan 43:12  Yeah. So good. Way to go. Thanks, Billy. This is so fun. Billy Lahr 43:18  Yeah, thank you for having me. Yeah, I've enjoyed it. Lesley Logan 43:19  Yeah, everyone. How are you gonna use these tips in your life? Let Billy know. Let the Be It Pod know and send this to a friend who needs to hear it. Send it to a complacent friend. Be their kickstart. It'll help them stretch their dough and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 43:33  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 44:15  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 44:20  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 44:24  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 44:32  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 44:35  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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