Podcast appearances and mentions of Ben True

Lauren Gregory is a pro athlete for Nike Trail living in New England. This season, Lauren had a big breakthrough in her professional career, notching three top-10 performances in Golden Trail World Series races, including an amazing 2nd place finish at the World Final in October. She has a huge career ahead of her and we're excited to host her on the podcast.   Topics discussed: Lauren's background and history with sport Her bronze medal from the 2017 Junior Mountain Running World Championship Winning an NCAA Cross Country National Championship Signing with Nike and the realities of going pro The Trail Team and how it's onboarded new athletes to trail running The advantages and disadvantages of living on the East Coast Her coach Ben True, and he's influenced her training Her 2024 season and reasons for the success Goals for the future A lot more! VOTE FOR TROY   VOTE FOR TPOY   FOLLOW LAUREN ON IG   FOLLOW LAUREN ON STRAVA   Sponsors: Use code freetrail10 for 10% off Speedland Footwear Grab a trail running pack from Osprey Use code FT15 for 15% off Gnarly Nutrition Go to ketone.com/freetrail30 for 30% off a subscription of Ketone IQ Freetrail Links: Website | Freetrail Pro | Patreon | Instagram | YouTube | Freetrail Experts   Dylan Links: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Strava

Lauren Gregory is a professional trail runner for Nike from Colorado, living on the East Coast and training with the Northswood Athletic team, under the guidance of coach Ben True - a true legend of distance running. Lauren is really, really fast, from the track to the trails: within one season, this year, she ran a 15:17 5000m on the track and she was able to take second at the golden trail world series final in Switzerland. In this episode, we talk about collegiate running, golden trail, track and trails and how one can help the other, elevating the game in our sport, health,  and many other interesting topics.  Follow Lauren on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lgeeeeezy/ PLEASE SHARE THIS EPISODE WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA IF YOU ENJOYED IT! _______________________ Follow ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@vert.run⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on IG Download our app and sign up to our training plans on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vert.run⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Francesco's links: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Strava⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Repping that northern attitude out in the wilds of New Hampshire, Ben True is a decorated runner across various distances who took 7th place in the 2021 New York City Marathon in his first race at that distance. He currently runs Northwood Athletics, a grassroots effor to grow the next national running hub for all distances, all surfaces, and all abilities. We had a great conversation about his career, training solo, and why the East Coast has our hearts on lock. Learn more about Northwoods: https://www.northwoodsathletics.com/Follow Ben on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/benjtrue/

Dan Curts is a professional trail runner for Brooks coming from New Hampshire, United States. With PRs of 3:43 in the 1500m, sub 4 min in the mile and 13:38 in the 5000m, Dan is a really fast, really talented runner who's main focus is on mountain running and the sub ultra distances. This year he won the US mountain running up and down champs and has competed at the world trail and mountain running championships in Innsbruck. In this episode we talk about Dan's training, how road and track fitness can translate into trail fitness, trail workouts vs track and road running workouts; we talk about the Northswood Athletic Team and training with a track star like Ben True, we talk about the trail scene in the East of the united states, where Dan is based with his girlfriend Lauren Gregory and teammate Eric Lipuma. Follow Dan on Instagram Follow Northswood Athletic Team _____________________________ Follow ⁠⁠@vert.run⁠⁠ on IG Download our app and sign up to our training plans on ⁠⁠vert.run⁠⁠ You can send us a message with any questions for us or for our guests! ⁠⁠https://anchor.fm/vertrun/message⁠⁠ Francesco's links: ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Strava⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠Website⁠⁠

Ben True is the American record holder, road 5k (13:20). First American man to win IAAF Diamond League 5k, NYC United Airlines Half. Sixth at World XC and World 5,000m Championships. Personal bests: 3:36 (1,500m), 13:02 (5,000m), 27:14 (10,000m). Currently runs on the track and the roads, 5k - marathon. Falls Creek Run Camp: https://www.relaxedrunning.com/falls-creek

https://slasrpodcast.com/   SLASRPodcast@gmail.com  Welcome to the Sounds Like a Search and Rescue Podcast! Also known as SLASR. Join an experienced search and rescue volunteer and his friend as they discuss all things related to hiking and search and rescue in the White Mountains of New Hampshire. This week, in an attempt to attract a younger demographic we interviewed a friend of the show, Caroline about her recent time living in Hawaii. She will break down some of the hiking activities she enjoyed during her 8 week stay in Honolulu and talk about some of her activities visiting the other Islands of Hawaii. She will also break down some of her memories of early hiking in NH and might even reveal some details about what it was like being raised by a maniac.  In addition to Caroline we have a couple of short history segments, crowds at Tuckerman Ravine, recent hikes, pop culture talk, our theory about all of us living in an AI simulation, and recent search and rescue news. Topics Mount Washington Observatory - Higher Summits Forecast Florida Talk Robert Frost History Patricia Wu-Murad - missing in Japan Mud Season Reminders Mount Washington Auto Road - Event Schedule Mining Permit controversy near Baxter State Park in Maine Boston Marathon Talk - Reflections on 2013 race & Ultra Marathon cheater Tuckerman Ravine was crowded - some people calling for a permit system Snowboarder yeats himself into a crevice and survives Close call in Jasper National Park Beer Hiking in New England Pop Culture Talk - AI, Mike thinks we may all be in a simulation, Mandalorian, Game of Thrones, Alec Baldwin Beer Talk Stomp Hikes Sculptured Rocks in Groton and Mount Agassiz - shares some history SLASR Topic of the Week - Caroline in Hawaii Recent Search and Rescue News Show Notes Apple Podcast link for 5 star reviews SLASR Merchandise SLASR LinkTree Gofundme set up for missing hiker in Japan  Vt. offers tips for mud season  Colorado Rescue Group has a few words for postholers  Mount Washington Auto Road has a cool schedule this year. Mining permit filed in Northern Maine near Katahdin Granite Staters, including Ben True, place well in the Boston Marathon  Another cheater. This time an ultra marathoner New opinion piece on using permitting to limit crowds at Tuckermans Snowboarder Falls into Ravine while descending Tuckerman Guy falls into rushing water trying to save his drone Beer Hiking New England - New Book to Check Out HBO Confirms a new series based on GRRM Dunk and Egg Novels  Mt. Agassiz - history segment  Diamond Head (must make a reservation to hike) Nu'uanu Judd Trail / Jackass Ginger Pool (HURT100) Mt. Olympus Manoa Falls Hawai‘i Volcanoes National Park Three Peaks (Olomana Trail) Stairway to Heaven Koko Head Ho‘omaluhia Botanical Garden All Honolulu Botanical Gardens Four Winds II Snorkeling Cruises (Maui) Skydive Hawaii Hans Hedemann Surf School Trail of discarded clothing lead rescuers to body of missing hiker  Hikers high on Magic Mushrooms rescued in England Injured hiker Mt. Chocurua  2 hikers rescued on Mt. Chocorua Teen hiker dies after fall at Acadia  2 ill-prepared hikers rescued on AT in Maine   Sponsors and Partners Mount Washington Higher Summits Forecast Bay Slate Coasters Vaucluse - Sweat less. Explore more. – Vaucluse Gear CS Instant Coffee Alzheimer's Association - 48 Peaks Sweet Beginnings Daycare

Since Kipchoge is in Boston we're releasing a portion of the Supporters Club podcast to everyone. If you want to hear the whole thing, join today using code GOAT50 to save 50%. https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe?from=public With the Supporters Club you get ALL the Letsrun.com content, a 2nd podcast every week, a great super soft shirt, and savings on running shoes. Join today. https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe?from=public Show notes: 00:00 Boston Marathon Preview Show 01:15 Start 02:38 Kipchoge speaks - no special prep for hills 08:56 Headwind and betting lines 18:16 Evans Chebet and Benson Kipruto 19:15 Conner Mantz, Ben True, CJ Albertson 23:39 Other contenders? 27:52 First American male picks 31:44 Loaded women's race 32:07 Men's Predictions 37:18 Top American women predictions Use code GOAT50 to join the SC and hear the whole pod Contact us: Email podcast@letsrun.com or call/text 1-844-LETSRUN podcast voicemail/text line. Want a 2nd podcast every week? And savings on running shoes? Join our Supporters Club today and get all the LetsRun.com content, a second podcast every week, savings on running shoes, and a lot more. Cancel at anytime. https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe Check out the LetsRun.com store. https://shop.letsrun.com/ We've got the softest running shirts in the business. Find out more at http://podcast.letsrun.com Send us your feedback online: https://pinecast.com/feedback/letsrun/50eb8e63-ab35-4f49-a7cc-ff5daed85dfc This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

We did a Livestream Live from the ASICS Run Shop on Newbury St. in Boston over Boston Marathon Weekend! We had regulars from the livestream in the audience along with two of the fastest marathoners in America, ASICS pros Ben True and Nico Montanez!

I ordered this so long ago, I forgot what was in it. I hope it's Maurten. Boston is coming up. Here are some shakeouts we can run together: Saturday 2pm: Puma shakeout https://www.eventbrite.com/e/594741506857 Saturday 6pm: Livestream Live at ASICS Shop. Join me and special guests, American marathoners Ben True and Nico Montanez for a live taping of the Kofuzi Run Club livestream.  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/asics-athlete-meetup-tickets-615213047787 Sunday 9am: Rabbit x Kofuzi Run Club https://strava.app.link/tiLRuEpwLyb Monday after the race: Bandit Portrait Photos https://www.eventbrite.com/e/bandit-x-boston-marathon-post-race-medal-portraits-tickets-602826990757 If you have footage that you'd like to send me, upload clips to me at https://kofuzi.wetransfer.com

Got a package from my friends at For the Run. I was very pleasantly surprised. Boston is coming up. Here are some shakeouts we can run together: Saturday 2pm: Puma shakeout https://www.eventbrite.com/e/594741506857 Saturday 6pm: Livestream Live at ASICS Shop. Join me and special guests, American marathoners Ben True and Nico Montanez for a live taping of the Kofuzi Run Club livestream.  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/asics-athlete-meetup-tickets-615213047787 Sunday 9am: Rabbit x Kofuzi Run Club https://strava.app.link/tiLRuEpwLyb Monday after the race: Bandit Portrait Photos https://www.eventbrite.com/e/bandit-x-boston-marathon-post-race-medal-portraits-tickets-602826990757 If you have footage that you'd like to send me, upload clips to me at https://kofuzi.wetransfer.com

Got some colorful new pieces from Janji. We talked about Boston and also some other races Boston is coming up. Here are some shakeouts we can run together: Saturday 2pm: Puma shakeout https://www.eventbrite.com/e/594741506857 Saturday 6pm: Livestream Live at ASICS Shop. Join me and special guests, American marathoners Ben True and Nico Montanez for a live taping of the Kofuzi Run Club livestream.  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/asics-athlete-meetup-tickets-615213047787 Sunday 9am: Rabbit x Kofuzi Run Club https://strava.app.link/tiLRuEpwLyb And while there isn't a specific event I'll be hosting, I will be spending some time at the Bandit Popup as well https://banditrunning.com/blogs/the-b-mail/boston-marathon-pop-up-itinerary If you have footage that you'd like to send me, upload clips to me at https://kofuzi.wetransfer.com

Iliass Aouani, the new Italian record holder in the marathon, joins us @78:50 in the Where Your Dreams Become Reality Segment to talk about his rise to the top of Italian marathoning from his triumph and struggles at Syracuse where he set the ACC record at 10,000m, but also was dropped from the NCAA XC team his senior year. *Link Syracuse XC and Sweet Road Prior to that we break down Zane Robertson's huge EPO bust and try and analyze what it means. Robertson left New Zealand at the age of 17 to train in Kenya. We break down the NYC half marathon, Rojo ponders whether Jacob Kiplimo could be better than Eliud Kipchoge, what's up with Galen Rupp, Des Linden, and Ben True? Dathan Ritzenhein gives us insight into Yared Nuguse @ 72.50. Want a fulfilling career, giving back to the sport you love? (Sponsored) A Crazy Running franchise might be just what you need. Crazy Running provides unique, exceptional running programs for kids, specializing in after-school running programs for kids ages 3-14. Crazy Running started with one mom at one track in North Carolina and has now expanded to 5 states and is looking for passionate LetsRunners wanting to open a franchise. Donnie Cowart, 4th place at the 2012 Olympic Trials is a co-owner, and Crazy Running is the perfect job for people who love running. https://www.crazyrunning.com/franchise/ 00:27 Crazy Running Franchise 01:55 Start 08:28 Zane Robertson busted for EPO 30:22 NYC Half 32:11 Could Kiplimo eclipse Kipchoge in marathon? 39:19 Who is favorite for Worlds 10,000m: Chpetegei or Kiplimo? 42:06 Hellen Obiri update *Ritz Video 45:58 Galen Rupp 64:57 17th place 52:08 Katelyn Tuohy update 54:00 Chris Thompson on supershoes, 2:10 being the minimum standard in the marathon *Video 56:53 Ben True, Des Linden 1st Americans *True Video 01:01:07 Rojo's NOP rant 01:06:20 2012 Olympic legacy 01:08:40 Rojo admits OAC won indoors 01:11:35 (Audio) Dathan Ritzenhein on Yared Nuguse's greatness Video Nuguse Padova Race 01:18:50 Guest Iliass Aouani - Italian Record Holder in Marathon *Syracuse XC and Sweet Road Links: Syracuse XC and Sweet Road ZANE ROBERTSON POPPED FOR EPO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Claimed he went for Covid-19 vaccine, was given EPO instead. Zane Robertson retires - was it worth it? Chris Thompson video Ritz video on Nuguse, Klecker, Kincaid Ritz on Obiri Nuguse's Padova Race Contact us: Email podcast@letsrun.com or call/text 1-844-LETSRUN podcast voicemail/text line. Want a 2nd podcast every week? And savings on running shoes? Join our Supporters Club today and get all the LetsRun.com content, a second podcast every week, savings on running shoes, and a lot more. Cancel at anytime. Use code CLUB25 to save 25%. https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe Check out the LetsRun.com store. https://shop.letsrun.com/ We've got the softest running shirts in the business. Thanks for listening. Please rate us on itunes and spread the word with a friend. There is a reason we're the #1 podcast dedicated to Olympic level running. Find out more at http://podcast.letsrun.com Send us your feedback online: https://pinecast.com/feedback/letsrun/f6497a91-d078-4b1b-8285-8c169663d437 This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

Dan talks about a move back to the Eastern time zone, to Vermont/New Hampshire, during the pandemic to train with longtime American standout Ben True. He goes into detail what working with Ben has meant to him. Dan also describes how his interest in mountain/elevation running got started. He talks about his time in Ames and how team tactics were used in many championship races. He also gives his viewpoint on why the Martin Smith era ended a couple years ago. Dan tells why he feels he has a gift for mountain running and the popularity of the sport in Europe. He also tells some of the challenges he encountered while racing in Italy last September. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lance-bergeson8/support

Nathan Martin is the fastest US-born black man to ever cover 26.2 miles. He ran 2:11:05 at the Marathon Project in 2020 to earn that title with a new personal best. He also finished 3rd American and 8th overall at the recent NYC Marathon, but based on the TV coverage, you would have barely known he was in the race. Fortunately in this interview, we get the play-by-play on his in-race back and forth with Ben True over the final miles. It is a riveting firsthand account, and we are proud to give Nathan the platform he deserves to share it.  Nathan, however, is used to not being in the spotlight. He's been diligently working to be a better runner in his home state of Michigan since discovering his talent in middle school. In high school, he focused on and was state finalist in the one mile race before being encouraged to move up in distance by his college (and current coach) Dante Ottolini. In college, he capped his senior year by winning NAIA national titles in the 10K and marathon (yes, marathon!), all in a span of 36 hours. That final college race kickstarted a post-collegiate marathon career that has now included two Olympic Marathon Trials, top finishes at US Marathon Championships, the big PR at the Marathon Project, and now a top 10 result at a World Major.  Nathan and his coach believe that making a US team at the World Championships or Olympics is a possibility, even as he splits his time coaching high school level athletes himself. In his own words, we learn where Nathan gets his work ethic and his roll-with-the-punches attitude, along with the values he learned from his coaches and parents along the way. We discover the source of his integrity, his perspective on clean sport, and the lessons he hopes to pass onto the kids he now coaches.  Nathan subtly drops truth bombs throughout this episode, and we couldn't be more honored to share his story with you.

Ben True joins us to reflect on his marathon debut at the NYC Marathon (2:12, 7th overall), his 4th place finish at the US Olympic Trials 10k, and his future racing plans. We also dive into just about every aspect of his career and life, including his decision to go to Dartmouth, choosing to train solo for several years, eventually paying Dan Curts $20,000 to train with him, making ends meet when Saucony didn't renew his contract, his upbringing in XC skiing, becoming a father, eating 6 bagels before races, his love for coffee, his views on anti-doping, and a whole lot more. Ben isn't much of a social media guy, but give him a follow on Insta anyway because when he does post, it's all gold (@BenJTrue) Join our Patreon for exclusive, uncut and uncensored content + big giveaways: https://www.patreon.com/beermile Brought to you by ALWRLD: Use code BEERMILE15 for 15% Off at ALWRLD.COM Brought to you by MANSCAPED: Use code BEERMILE for 20% Off + Free Shipping at MANSCAPED.COM Try Athletic Brewing Beer: https://athletic-brewing-co.sjv.io/gbGWzA Enter our giveaway for free BeerMile.com Swag: Give a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts or share the Beer Mile Podcast on your Insta story. Send us a DM with a screenshot on Instagram to @The_Beer_Mile: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beer-mile-podcast/id1535570203 Help us grow the podcast: Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/beermile Subscribe to Beer Mile Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/beermilemedia Social Follow Beer Mile Media on Instagram Follow Beer Mile Media on Facebook Follow Beer Mile Media on Twitter Follow Beer Mile Media on TikTok Join the Beer Mile Strava Club Follow Chris on Strava Follow Chris on Instagram Follow Adam on Instagram Follow Adam on Strava --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/beer-mile-media/support

There's always a lot of stories that come out the New York City Marathon, and 2021 was no different. We consider the performances of Molly Seidel, Ben True, Shalane Flanagan, Chelsea Clinton, Wrinkle the Duck, and others.

The 50th New York City Marathon is almost here. Kenenisa Bekele will be on the streets of NYC for the first time taking on world half marathon record holder Kibowitt Kandie in his debut. Olympic champ Peres Jepchirchir takes on American Olympic bronze medallist Molly Seidel. We break it all down and is this the greatest LetsRun.com thread ever? Free Sample Pack Drink LMNT - Electrolytes without the junk Get a free sample pack of DrinkLMNT with 6 different flavors for only $5 shipping. Wejo will personally refund your $5 if you don't like this stuff. DrinkLMNT is electrolytes without the junk. No sugar, no artificial flavors, yet it tastes great. DrinkLMNT.com/letsrun Supporters Club NYC50 Bonus Offer: Use code NYC50 to save 50% off your 1st 3 months of the LetsRun.com Supporters Club or the annual subscription. Get a 2nd podcast every week, huge savings on running shoes, and a free super soft shirt if you join for a year. https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe?from=public Order of show (SC Members get timestamps) Men's NYC Preview - Bekele vs Kandie American men's chances - led by Ben True, Noah Droddy, and Nathan Martin 36:45 Women's NYC Preview -Jepchirchir, Seidel American women's chances - Seidel, Kellyn Taylor, Stephanie Bruce, Sally Kipyego Could the course record fall? What about a sub 2:20 in NYC? 62:46 The greatest thread in LetsRun history? The 2012 NYC Marathon World Athletics changes its rules on DQs Qanon, JFK Jr and Dallas Contact us: Email podcast@letsrun.com or call 1-844-LETSRUN and hit option 7 for the secret podcast voicemail. Join our Supporters Club and taken your running fandom to the highest level. Get all the LetsRun.com content, a second podcast every week, savings on running shoes, and a lot more. https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe Check out the LetsRun.com store. https://shop.letsrun.com/ We've got the softest running shirts in the business. Thanks for listening. Please rate us on itunes and spread the word with a friend. There is a reason we're the #1 podcast dedicated to Olympic level running. Find out more at http://podcast.letsrun.com Send us your feedback online: https://pinecast.com/feedback/letsrun/5d245966-b54b-4a55-96a8-2254181bf6ed

Ben True is a professional runner and the current holder of the American 5k road record. Ben is now making a transition to the marathon.

It's cross country running season on a ski-heavy endurance podcast. There's no better time and no better guest for Threshold right now than Ben True. In college, Ben was a three sport All-American in cross country, skiing, and track and field. After having some confusion as to what sport to pursue, he landed as a runner... a runner with a clear Olympic trajectory. However, after three Olympic Trials that rendered several 4th place results, Ben reflects on what the Olympics truly are. Ben will toe the line in his first marathon this year at the New York City marathon. We caught up with Ben, the sponsor-less runner with a sad, yet even more inspiring story. With guest Ben True Hosted by Chad Salmela Produced by Chris Parr

“If you get me talking about things that happened in college or I think about races in college I can just spiral in my own head and get frustrated and kind of disappointed with myself in the way things turned out. It's definitely in the back of my mind. I would like to prove to myself that I do belong, whether it be at the NCAA level or the professional level, I just believe inherently that I am talented enough to do it. I just have to be patient and let it kind of come to me rather than go searching for it…I think Peachtree, although it's just one result and doesn't mean all that much in the grand scheme of the running world, it has meant a lot for me and validating what I've been doing for the last year and half, two years.” This is Fred Huxham's first podcast and I am super excited to introduce him to you. Fred, who is 25 years old, just placed second at the Peachtree Road Race on July 4 in 28:45. That race was the 10K national championships and he finished just two seconds behind Sam Chelanga and a few places ahead of Galen Rupp, Jake Riley, and Abdi Abdirahman, the three men who will represent the United States at the Olympic Marathon in Tokyo. In this conversation, we talked about Peachtree, how it went down, and what that performance means to Fred at this point of his career. He told me how he ended up in New Hampshire, training with Ben True and Dan Curts, and what the next few months look like for him from a competitive standpoint. We talked about his high school career at Redwood in California and his relationship with coaches Laura and Jake Schmitt—both of whom I've had on this podcast, so check out those episodes if you haven't already. Fred described the process of overcoming periods of frustration and disappointment during his collegiate career, explained why he's got a chip on his shoulder, how he uses that to his advantage, and a lot more. Complete show notes: https://themorningshakeout.com/podcast-episode-169-with-fred-huxham/ Sign up here to get the morning shakeout email newsletter delivered to your inbox every Tuesday morning: www.themorningshakeout.com/subscribe/ Support the morning shakeout on Patreon: www.patreon.com/themorningshakeout

On this week's episode, I chat with Kitchener, Ontario's Ben Flanagan, who lives and trains in Virginia as part of the Reebok Boston track club. The 26-year-old Flanagan has forced his way into the consciousness of Athletics Canada's Olympic team selection committee by posting solid results across in the 5,000m and 10,000m this year. Most recently, Flanagan set a new 5,000m PB of 13:20 at Tracksmith's Platinum PT qualifier in Boston last week, winning the race in the process. Ben and I talked about how he hopes to punch his ticket to Tokyo, high mileage vs low mileage, Ben's fascination with Utah, what it felt like to beat Ben True, and more.

Show notes:Links:TwistHook RelayBen Orenstein TupleWrite for HoneybadgerFull transcript:Starr:So Ben is joining us today from his car. It's bringing back fun memories. I recorded, I think the voiceover for our very first demo video in my car.Ben:Oh yeah? Nice. So as you may recall, I have a two story building that I lease one of the rooms, and the downstairs is a wine tasting room. Well with the pandemic, the company that had the wine tasting room, they closed shop. They stopped leasing, because who's going to go to a wine tasting room during a pandemic, right? Well they're leasing the space to a new tenant that's going to take that space. Apparently hey, we're getting back, things are reopening, let's taste wine again, but the new tenant wants to have a new door put in. So I got to the office today and they're like, "Yeah, we're putting in a new door." And then I'm like, "Cool." Didn't even think much of it. But then a few minutes later, there's all this drilling going on. I'm like, "Oh, I think probably the car is a better place to record today."Josh:Well at least you'll have some new friends soon.Ben:True, true.Starr:Yeah. Well I'm glad you made it, at least. And so what's up? I missed a week of the podcast and you guys invested our entire Honeybadger savings account into Bitcoin.Josh:Yeah.Starr:And I'm not sure that was the most prudent investment decision, y'all. I just wanted to say that.Ben:Yeah, the timing could have been better.Josh:Yeah, we really pulled a Roam Research on that one.Starr:Oh yeah. What do you mean by that?Josh:They invest in Bitcoin, apparently.Starr:Oh, they do? Okay.Ben:Of course they do.Starr:Of course. It's just a dip. You're supposed to buy the dips, Josh. It's just what, like a 30% dip? 40% dip?Josh:I wasn't watching it, but I read that it had recovered pretty quickly too.Starr:Oh. I have no idea. I didn't even follow it.Josh:As it does.Starr:I don't even follow it.Josh:Yeah. I just read random people's opinions.Starr:There you go.Josh:I forget where we left it last week, but I just wanted to state for record that I think I mentioned I made some accidental money in Bitcoin back when I was learning about block chain technology, but I have not bought any Bitcoin since, nor do I intend to, and I do not really view it as an investment asset.Starr:This is not investment advice.Josh:I just need to state my opinions for the future so I can look back on them with regret. If I don't say what I actually think, I'm never going to have anything to regret.Starr:There you go.Josh:I'm just going to commit.Starr:So you've decided to die on this no intrinsic value hill.Josh:Right. I'll let you know if I change my mind.Starr:Okay, that's fine. That's fine. Yeah, I don't really check. Last week y'all did the interview with Mike, right?Josh:Mm-hmm (affirmative).Josh:Yeah, it was a good conversation.Starr:Yeah. I don't really pay attention to it, except occasionally I'll look at the chart. It's the same with GameStop. Occasionally I'll look at the GameStop chart and then just see what wild stuff people are saying about it. Yeah.Ben:Yeah, GameStop was hovering at about 150 for a while, but now it's up to like 170-ish, 180. Something like that. Yeah. I peek at it every now... it's on my watch list when I log into my brokerage account, so I just see it. I'm like, "Oh, okay. Cool." And then I move on and check out my real actual stock portfolio.Starr:Oh yeah, yeah. I'm not going to buy it. It's like a TV show for me.Ben:Yeah, totally.Josh:Yeah. To be fair, I really don't have much of an opinion either way. I still don't understand it, so I don't know. I just feel like I probably shouldn't be buying it.Starr:That's really good advice. I don't understand anything though, so what am I supposed to do, Josh? Huh? Huh?Josh:Yeah.Ben:Just buy the index fund.Starr:Yeah. I don't even understand that.Josh:I don't understand that either though, if you really think about it.Ben:That's actually, there was a good thread or so on Twitter. I don't know if it was this week or last week, but basically the idea was if you feel really confident in your own ability, in your own business, given that, you're probably spending most of your time in that business, right? We spend most of our creative time in Honeybadger because that's where we feel the most potential is. So you're investing basically all of your personal capital in this one business. How do you diversify that risk? Or do you diversify the risk? Do you double down? Maybe do you take investment to diversify, and so you buy out? Let someone do a secondary and so you take some cash off the table? If you did that, then where would you put the money? Do you just go, "Okay, I'm going to go buy Bitcoin. I'm going to go buy an index fund," or whatever. And if you do that, is that a better use of your money than having just kept the equity and just plowing more time into your business? Right?Josh:Yeah.Ben:It's an interesting thought exercise. It's like, "Hm." The whole investment mindset of your business is interesting to me.Josh:Yeah. Yeah, that was interesting. I think I saw that conversation, or maybe I saw a similar conversation where they were talking about even just 401Ks and for founders who are already fairly... have at least made it in whatever sense that means. Is it the best financial move to keep maxing out your 401K versus investing in your ability to generate revenue in your business?Starr:So a little bit of real talk here. If you are a founder who's made it, maxing out your 401K isn't really a blip on your financial radar.Josh:It's not a big... yeah. That was kind of the same thought I had. It's not like you're putting 50% of your income into it.Starr:Yeah. What is it, like 20 grand? Something like that?Josh:Yeah.Starr:It's a good chunk of change, but still. It's not like...Josh:Yeah. I don't know.Starr:Yeah, that's interesting. I think I'm just going to go all in on Pogs. I think they're due for a comeback. I think that's going to be how I diversify.Josh:But I think it's probably a good move to invest in yourself if you have the ability to build businesses. That definitely seems like a good investment, in any case. Probably still have a 401K. I tend to do everything, except Bitcoin.Ben:A 401K is a nice backstop. Just keep stocking money away, and later it will be there, hopefully. But in the meantime, really, really spend your time and your energy on making your business even more profitable. Speaking of making your business more profitable, so this past week or two weeks, I've been working on our SOC 2 type two audit, so I'm doing the evidence collection.Starr:Oh yeah?Ben:So that in this case means I take a bunch of screenshots of settings, like the AWS console and G-suite console to show yeah, we have users, and yes, we have login restrictions, et cetera. All the 150 different things that you're supposed to check off the list when you do the audit. And as I've been going through this process taking all these screenshots, honestly it's getting a bit tedious, and it's surprisingly time consuming. And so I'm like, "You know, there are services for this sort of thing. Let me check them out." And so in the past three days, I've had conversations with Vanta, Secureframe, and Drata. These are three providers that what they do is they provide almost SOC 2 in a box. Basically they help you connect all of your systems and get the evidence that you need for an auditor in a more automated fashion. So for example, they'll plug into your AWS account and they'll pull out information about your security groups, your application firewall, your AIM, all the access permissions, all that kind of stuff, and pack that up into a nice little format that the auditor can then look at and like, "Yeah, they're good on all these different requirements." So you don't have to take screenshots of security groups.Ben:And I hadn't really looked at them before because I was like, "I don't know if I just want to spend that kind of money," but actually sitting back and looking at it, looking at the time that I'm spending on this and the amount of time I'm paying our auditors to audit all these screenshots that I'm taking, actually I think it would be cheaper to go with one of these services, because your audit is a bit more streamlined because the auditor knows how that data is going to come in and it's an easy format to digest, et cetera. But the thing is that after having gone through some of the sales pitches from these vendors, I'm thinking I really wish I would have started with these back the first time, because I think it would have been much easier just from the get go. So I think I've been doing the SOC compliance on hard mode, unfortunately, but lessons learned.Starr:With my experience, that just seems to be how projects are. You do it one time and you don't really know what you're doing, and you just push your way through it, and then eventually you figure out how to do it better and easier and all that. Because when something is new to you, you don't know what you can safely ignore. You know?Josh:Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. Well plus you're pumping up the value of FounderQuest.Starr:Oh, that's true. We got a lot of content out of that.Ben:That's true.Starr:At least $100 worth.Josh:That's useful knowledge. Yeah.Ben:Yeah, so I think the short version is if you are interested in doing SOC2 compliance and you have no idea what you're doing, talk to these vendors first and maybe just start with them. They will help you, because they have customer success people like SaaS does. They have people on staff who are there to help you have success with their product. And if you don't get compliant, then you're going to stop using their product, so they're going to help you try and get there. And it's still pricey. It's still going to be five figures a year, but it will definitely save you some time and maybe even save you some money.Josh:Nice.Ben:Yeah. So next year, our audit should just be smooth as silk.Starr:Just butter.Josh:Love it.Starr:So if we-Josh:What are you going to do with all that extra free time?Ben:I made an executive decision.Starr:Oh really? What's that?Ben:Yes. The executive decision is we're going to have more teamwork at Honeybadger.Starr:That's ironic.Josh:Instead of what? What we have now, which is anarchy?Ben:We pretty much do have anarchy, I think. We are coordinated, we do make our plans, and we do have things we want to get done, but yeah, we are very independent at Honeybadger. We work independently. You might even say we're kind of siloed. We go off in the corner and do our own thing for most of the time. And I was chatting with Kevin about this, and I think we're going to try an experiment. So I think we're going to try to actually work together.Starr:Kevin is our developer.Starr:Yeah, so you all are going to be developing features together. Are you going to pair program? Are you going to use Tuple?Ben:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down there.Starr:Are you going to mob program?Ben:Pair programming, that's maybe too advanced for us, I think. Maybe actually we'll chat in Slack a little bit here and there and maybe have a Zoom call.Josh:Yeah, so you're talking about you're both going to work on the same project at the same time.Ben:Right. Right.Josh:Mostly independently, but coordinating.Ben:Right. Yeah.Josh:Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think that still can fit into our anarchy model.Starr:Yeah. It still seems a little bit independent.Josh:It's more like mutual aid or something.Starr:There you go. We should make a conference talk about mutual aid development.Josh:Right.Starr:That would go over well.Ben:Using NATO as a model for your development process. Yeah, so we'll see how it goes. I'm looking forward to it. I think I've been feeling a little lonely. I don't know if it's the right word, but maybe just off doing my own thing. I was like, "Oh, I think it will be nice to have some collaboration, some coordination." Maybe we'll even get to a level of synergies.Starr:Synergies.Starr:That's a blast from the past.Josh:Yeah, I think it's a good idea.Ben:Yeah, so more to come on that. We'll keep you posted. It's a bigger project. May not have results for a couple months. Don't really want to spill the beans on what it is right now. Competitive information. Don't want to leak it to all of our competitors.Starr:I like that. I like that. It's going to keep people on the hook for the next episodes.Josh:Totally.Ben:But yeah. That was my week.Josh:Yeah. Well my week, I took some time off, had some family stuff going on, so I was not very productive this week, but what I did work on was I've been working on this little guide for Hook Relay. I'd love to get the marketing machine, the fly wheel going on that at least, so we can be moving that along with everything else. And so yeah, working on some content and such.Starr:What is Hook Relay?Josh:Well you tell us what Hook Relay is, Ben. It's your baby.Ben:It's my baby. Yeah. So Hook Relay is a tool for managing web hooks. So you can record web hooks as they go out. In our case, to Honeybadger, we send a lot of web hooks, and so we built Hook Relay to help track all that web hook action. So we logged as pay loads that can go and diagnose issues that are happening, or maybe replay them as necessary, and of course it also handles inbound web hooks. So if you were handling, let's say, a post pay load request from GitHub about some activity that happens in your GitHub account, you handle that web hook and we can give you a place to store that, and then you can replay that, send it, forward it onto somewhere if you want, or just store it.Josh:Yeah. I think one of my favorite things about Hook Relay is just the visibility that it gives us into what's happening with the hooks, because otherwise we never had a dashboard. I guess we could have built one internally to see what the activity was and what's failing, what's actually... what requests are... because you're connecting to thousands of different people's random domain URLs, basically. It's really nice even for debugging and things like troubleshooting to be able to see what's going on, in addition to all the other cool things that it gives you out of the box.Starr:So you might say it's even like turnkey reliability and visibility for web hooks. For all your web hook needs.Ben:Yeah. Yeah, we modeled it on Stripes web hooks because we loved-Starr:I'm holding up a box up. I'm holding the TurboLinks box up and gesturing at it with my hand.Ben:Vanna White style.Josh:We should do our own channel, do our own infomercials.Ben:Yeah, I really wanted experience of Stripe. If you set up web hooks in Stripe, you can go and you can see all the web hooks they've sent you. You can see the pay loads, you can see whether they were successfully delivered or not, and I wanted that experience for our own web hooks, and also I thought it would be cool if developers could just have that without having to build the infrastructure. And so if you're building an app that send a bunch of web hooks on behalf of your customers, well now you can give your customers visibility into that web hook activity without having to build that tracking yourself.Josh:Yeah. That's pretty cool. So basically this content guide I'm working on is how to build web hooks into your application, including all the reliability and stuff that Hook Relay gives you for free. And the idea is that if that's what you're doing and you just want to save some time, Hook Relay will be a large chunk of that. You've just got to sign up. So I think it will be useful to everyone, even if they don't become a customer. If you're going to build your own back end and handle all the retries, build dashboards, and all that. But if you want it all turnkey, then Hook Relay is a big chunk of that work just done of you.Starr:So is this live? So can people go and sign up now?Ben:Yeah.Josh:Hook Relay, yes. It is.Josh:Hookrelay.dev.Ben:Yeah. In fact, we have enough customers now that it's actually paying for itself.Starr:What?Ben:Yes. So sweet.Josh:It's wild. That's wild.Starr:That's amazing.Ben:So Josh, is your guide going to have... are you going to dive deep into the architecture of here's how you build a whole web hook system, and so we're going to show you all the stuff behind the curtain so you can build your own? And then, "Oh, by the way, if you want it just done for you, here it is." Or are you going to just keep it more high level?Josh:I'm starting more high level. Yeah, I was planning on it being more high level. More like a high level architecture thing, or specification. Like these are the parts that you'll need to build, but you're going to have to solve some things, because it's not going to be specific to one system. It's not going to be like, "This is how you build web hooks for Ruby and Sidekick, or if you're going serverless." It will have suggestions on stacks or technologies to use for the back end, for instance, but yeah. I was thinking of leaving that to the user to figure out, but just showing the things you need to think about that a lot of people don't think about until they encounter the problems that might arise, like retrying and all the error handling that you add later, and validation for security reasons and things.Ben:Yeah. Yeah.Starr:This is giving me flashbacks to a whole two or three year process after we first launched.Josh:Yeah.Starr:It was just like, "Oh, crap. There's an edge case here that we didn't think of because we're not used to doing web hooks at this scale." And that just went on for like three years.Josh:Yeah. And it's nice having the two products because Hook Relay came out of Honeybadger and it's basically part of our web hook system. This is basically just documenting Honeybadger's web hook system for other people who might want to replicate that or whatever.Ben:Totally. I think that will be cool. A great piece of content, a great piece of SEO juice. And if you did decide to go deep into the technical side, like if you explain the entire infrastructure that we're building, that would actually be kind of cool too because you could maintain your technical documentation for the system internally and use it as a piece of content for marketing.Josh:That could be cool. Yeah. That's not a bad idea. Yeah, I was thinking just because I want to get something out there. I'm thinking it will help with both, having a resource for people who are already on the site to see this is basically how you will implement this. It's kind of like an implementation guide, really. But then also SEO. It should help get us in more search results.Ben:Yeah.Josh:And I also want to credit Ben Orenstein and and Tuple. They have a great pair programming guide which was an inspiration for this idea. I just really liked the format that they used, and I just think it's a great idea if you have a product that's highly targeted or focused on one specific thing and doing it really well. I think it's maybe even a great alternative to a blog, for instance. You can get some of the same benefits of having a blog, but without actually having to create a blog with a lot of different variety of topics and things.Ben:Speaking of the blog, I was talking to Harris, our sales guru, about our blog strategy, and I said, "Yeah, it's basically like a flypaper strategy. We want it to attract developers that come and see the content and they love it and they're like, 'Oh, let me check out this Honeybadger thing.'" Not particularly novel, but I like the flypaper idea.Starr:That's a good metaphor. And also for a long time, I poo-pooed SEO because in my mind, SEO was very scammy. I don't know. I learned about SEO in the days of link farming and all that, and I just didn't want to be involved in that. So I'm just like, "We're just going to put out good content and that will be enough." And it is, yes, but also I've looked at some metrics since then that make it clear that the majority of good things that happen because of our blog actually are people entering through search queries. That really outweighs people sharing articles and doing stuff like that, which I guess is obvious that it would be that way, but my own bias against search just made me not see that for a while. So maybe trying to pick some possible low hanging fruit. We've tried to make our site search engine friendly, but we having really done any explicit SEO type activities.Josh:Yeah. I went through recently through our documentation and just tweaked just small things on a bunch of pages, like headlines and some of the meta tags and stuff, but mostly headlines and content on page was what I was focusing on. And I wasn't using any particular tool to measure before and after results, but it does seem like it bumped us up in some of the results for people searching for more general terms like Ruby error tracking, for example, which are typically pretty competitive terms. But I think we rank pretty well for some of those terms these days. I think we've been around enough and we're one of the options that come up. So it does seem like if you already target the terms, it actually does what they say it does, which is good to know. You've just got to pay attention to it.Ben:So the moral of story is there is some value in SEO.Starr:I guess so.Josh:Yeah. Well and I think documentation sites. Your documentation, I think it's a great place to optimize SEO because a lot of times, especially for those... maybe not for the long tail searches. A blog is great for that, like what you were talking about with the flypaper, Ben. But for people who are actually searching for what you do, I think a lot of times documentation pops up first in a lot of cases when I'm searching for things, so don't overlook it like we did.Starr:Yeah. Well this week, I guess the main thing I did was I got our authors lined up for the next quarter of intelligence briefings. So if you haven't been playing along at home, we're having some intelligence briefings created. Basically everything that's going on in a certain language community for the quarter, and this grew out of Josh's need because he's basically in charge of our client libraries. And we have libraries in a variety of languages, so keeping up with those languages and what's going on is a real pain in the ass, so we were going to make these guides originally for him, but then also we were like, "This would be really great content to publish."Starr:And I've already got this system with authors who want to write about programming languages, and so let's see if we can make some authors make these summaries. And so far, yeah, I'm pretty happy. We had four or five of them created, and we're not publishing them because they were for a previous quarter, and this is just a trial run to see if the results are okay, and I think they were. I think the results were pretty good. We go some feedback from you two, and I updated my process and updated the template that all the authors are using, and so we should be getting round two done. I'm setting the deadline a week after the end of the quarter. My hope is if they get them to me then, then I'll have a week to get them up on our blog or wherever, and then they won't be too out of date by the time people see them.Josh:Yeah. That's cool. I'm excited to see the next batch. My favorite thing from the reports were the ones where they wrote some original content summarizing things or sections or whatever. That was super useful because there's a little bit of a story element to it that's specific to the quarter or whatever that you don't really get from just... if you just aggregate everything, all the weekly newsletters and what happened on Reddit and what happened on Twitter. If you just dump that all in a document, it's a bit of overload, so it's nice to have the summary the story of what the community was interested in.Starr:Oh yeah. Definitely.Josh:Here are some articles that they talked about.Starr:That's the whole idea, is to have somebody who knows the community explain to you what's going on, as opposed to... if I wanted a bunch of links, I could just write a little script to scrape links from places.Josh:Yeah.Starr:And it wouldn't be very useful. What's useful is having people who know the environment being like, "Hey, this is what's going on. This is why it's important." And yeah, so that's going to be something I guess I need to look for explicitly when I get this round of things of reports back.Josh:Start calling them secret agents or something instead of authors.Starr:Oh yeah.Josh:Or detectives.Starr:Operatives. Yeah. Assets.Josh:As our detective service investigators.Ben:I think having that analysis of why this news is important or why these things are important that they've collected is really handy, because the links are great. Like you said, I could just write a script to collect them, but having someone with that context in the community saying, "Okay, and it's important because, and this is why you should pay attention," I think that's really helpful to someone who's maybe not as deep into that every day.Starr:Oh yeah.Josh:Yeah. And also knowing what to surface, because there was one report that it really seemed to just dump every single link or article that was discussed or was in a newsletter or whatever, and I think it's more helpful if it's on a quarterly level, if you know what is actually the important things that you really want to know about.Starr:Yeah, that's true. I just made a note for myself to go back and explicitly just mention that to people, because I realized I didn't put it in the instructions anywhere. I put like, "Here's where a description of the content goes," but I didn't really put what I want inside that description, I realized.Josh:Yeah.Starr:So I'm going to do that.Ben:We're iterating in real time here.Starr:Oh yeah, yeah. This is where the work gets done.Josh:Yeah. Well and pretty soon, we'll have hopefully some good examples that we can show future authors, or detectives, or whatever we're calling them.Starr:Oh, definitely. Definitely. I'm going to call them authors because they're already in the blog system as authors and it just seems like-Josh:Agents?Starr:I don't know. I've got to be able to talk to these people with a straight face.Ben:You could call them research specialists, but then you might have to pay them more.Starr:There you go.Josh:Research. Yeah. Yeah.Starr:I don't know. I think I'm paying pretty well. Honestly, I think I'm paying pretty well for looking at... I don't know. How many weeks is a quarter? 12? 12 weeks of newsletters and just telling me what's going on. I think I'm paying pretty well.Josh:Yeah. You don't need to talk to them with a straight face though. You need to talk to them with sunglasses on, smoking a cigarette in a diner.Starr:Oh that's right. Yeah.Josh:Or a dive bar somewhere.Starr:Those people aren't smiling. Those people aren't smiling. Oh, that's right. I can do that. I just realized that it's two weeks since my second vaccine, so I'm ready to go out and recruit secret agents.Josh:Ready to party.Starr:Yeah. I'm very anxious talking with people in public now, but that's not a topic for this conversation.Josh:Yeah. We'll ease back into it.Starr:Oh yeah. Yeah, we're going to have dinner with my sister in law on Saturday, and I'm just like, "Okay Starr, you can do this. You can do this."Josh:Cool.Starr:Yeah, and I guess the other thing that we did this week is we are doing a trial run of Twist as a replacement for Basecamp messages, the message board on Basecamp. And yeah, so basically the long and short of it is the whole Basecamp BS just left a bad taste in my mouth in particular. I think you all's a little bit, or maybe you're neutral. I don't care. That sounded really harsh.Ben:You can be honest with us. We can take it.Starr:No, I didn't mean to sound that harsh. I just mean I'm not trying to put my opinions onto you, is what I'm saying. I just felt gross using Basecamp. Also if I'm being honest, I never really enjoyed Basecamp as a product. It's got a couple things that just really rubbed me the wrong way.Josh:We were having some vague conversations in the past. We have posed do we really want to keep this part of what we're using Basecamp for? And we were already using a subset of it, so yeah. It wasn't totally out of the blue.Starr:Yeah. And we were using maybe 20% of Basecamp, just the message boards feature.Josh:And the check ins, which apparently we all disliked.Starr:And the check ins, which nobody liked but we all kept using for some reason. Ben is like, "Can I turn off the check ins?" And I'm like, "I thought you were the only reason we were doing the check ins, it's because I thought you liked them."Ben:I think I was the only reason we were doing the check ins.Josh:It's because... yeah.Ben:Yeah, because I remember when I started it I was like, "Yeah, I really don't know what's going on," because back to that siloed, independent, off in the corner thing, I was like, "It would be nice to know what people are doing." But yeah, lately I've been like, "This is just a drag." So I'm like, "Would anybody be upset if this went away?" And everyone is like, "Please take it away."Josh:Everyone is just passively aggressively answering them.Ben:Everyone hated it.Josh:It wasn't that bad, but-Ben:I get it.Josh:Kevin used them too, but yeah.Ben:So I finally gave everyone permission to tell me that it was not okay, and now we no longer do it.Starr:There you go. And we're just like, "While we're at it, just ditch Basecamp." So yeah, so we've been trying a new system called Twist. Twist is, essential it's... I don't know, it's like threaded discussions. I figured this out on my own. I'm very proud of myself. So you have lots of threads, and you twist them together to make yarn or something or some sort of textile, so I bet you that's why it's called Twist.Josh:Beautiful sweater.Starr:Yeah. A beautiful sweater. The tapestry that is Honeybadger. And so far, I've really been enjoying it. I find the UI to be a lot better. There was one bug that we found that I reported, so hopefully that will get fixed. It doesn't really bother me that much. Yeah, it's amazing sometimes how the UI of an application can just be like, "Oh, ah. I'm having to parse less information just to do my task."Josh:It's much nicer.Starr:Yeah.Ben:It does feel like a lot less friction for our use case.Josh:Yeah. Well we talked about that, just the structure. The way that you structure conversation and organization things in a management tool like that makes a big difference. In Basecamp, we would create Basecamps for whatever. They call them Basecamps, right? They're the projects.Starr:They're like projects. I don't know.Josh:We'd create different ones, different projects for each project, but then there's five of us, so we'd basically just add everyone to every single project that is in there. But all the conversation is siloed off in each project, and with Twist, it's just much more of a fluid... it uses what, like channels? But yeah, it just seems like it's all together. It's kind of like a combination of Slack and a threaded message board or something, to me.Starr:Yeah, or like Slack and email or something.Josh:Slack and email. Yeah. It's a nice combo.Starr:Yeah. It has inbox, which I like, where it shows you any unread messages, and so you can just easily just go and scan through them, and it's all in the same page. It's a single page application, so you don't have to click out to a completely new page and then come back to the inbox and do all that. Basecamp had a similar feature, but it's like a timeline and it had a line down the middle of the screen and then branches coming off of either side of it. And for some reason, I started using the inbox in Twist and it was just like, "Oh, this is so much better." For some reason I think having things on different sides of the screen just doubled the amount of background processing my brain had to do to put it all together. And yeah, so I don't know. I do like it. Also, it's got mark down. It's got mark down.Josh:The mark down editor is so nice. It reminds me a lot of just using GitHub, the editor on GitHub, with the mark down mode and preview. And you can drag and drop images into the... I don't know if you knew that, into the mark down editor, like you can on GitHub, and it automatically inserts the image tag and uploads it for you.Starr:Yeah, it's all really slick. So I don't know. I imagine in maybe another... I've got vacation next week, so maybe after that we'll get together and compare notes. But I don't know, it seems like people like it so far.Josh:Yeah.Ben:Yeah, it's been good. It's interesting-Josh:If I had to decide today, it's a keeper for me.Ben:Yeah, I would go ahead and switch.Starr:Oh yeah, me too.Ben:It's interesting to me, you alluded to this, Starr, as you were talking about comparing it to your products and how they approach... it's interesting to me the UI, even if it's the same kind of functionality, how much different takes on the user experience can make a different experience for the user. How it just feels different. Like, "Oh yeah, it's basically doing the same thing, but it just feels better for whatever. My mentality or our business." Fill in the blank there, but I thought about that many times. Honeybadger versus competitors. It's like, "Yeah, they're doing basically the same thing, but we do have differences in how we approach the UI and different use patterns that we think are more emphasized by our UI versus the others." And sometimes it's just a matter of personal preference. It's like, "Oh, this just feels better to me." One night I tried Python before I tried Ruby, and Python is like, "Oh, that's interesting," but then Ruby really clicked my brain. It's like, "Oh, it just feels better." And I'm sure other people have the opposite experience, but I don't know. It's weird to me and fun to think about the human part of these products. Josh:Yeah. And it's surprising, the strong opinions that people pick up just based on those experience things when they're basically the same, if they're doing the same thing. Some people, they either love it or hate it based on that.Starr:Yeah, that's true. Maybe it all goes back to whatever business apps you used in childhood. It's just whatever your mom made you for lunch, you're always going to love that.Josh:Yeah. It's like a nurture thing, nature versus nurture. You were exposed to these apps when you were young, and so it's just what you're drawn to.Starr:Yeah. I remember putting my little friend's contact details into Lotus Notes.Josh:Right. I had to program Lotus Notes.Ben:I got my first dev job because I knew Lotus Notes.Starr:Oh, nice.Josh:Lotus Notes was an important precedent at the time, I think.Starr:Yeah.Ben:Yeah. Yeah. It was the bomb. You could do some pretty serious stuff.Starr:Yeah. I kept having these jobs that weren't technically dev jobs, but ended up being dev jobs just because I knew how to write V basic macros for Excel. I'm sure a lot of people had that experience.Josh:The thing I remember doing in Lotus Notes was setting it up to ingest email from the outside world into whatever, the system. And thinking about it now, that project I've done over and over and over since then.Starr:It's Basecamp.Josh:And I'm still doing that project.Starr:It's Basecamp all over again. Oh no.Ben:If only there was a service that took in emails for you, and then you could just bring them into your app data.Josh:Yeah. I bet in 20 years, we'll be writing programs to accept email.Ben:Process emails, yeah.Josh:Yeah.Starr:Yeah. When is this stuff going away? Technology changes all the time. When is email going away? They've been killing it for years. It's like fricking Rasputin. When is it going away?Ben:It's the cockroach of protocols.Starr:There you go.Josh:After the singularity, they'll still have to have a way to import it directly into your consciousness, and yeah, I don't know.Starr:Yeah. I hope the spam filtering is really good then.Starr:All right, well it was great talking with y'all.Ben:Likewise.Starr:Yeah. So this has been FounderQuest. Go to the Apple podcast and review us if you want. If you're interested in writing for us, we are always looking for fresh, new talent. Young authors looking to make their mark on the world of technical blog posts for SAS companies. And yeah, just go to our blog and look for the write for us page. I don't currently have any openings, but who knows? People flake out. So if you're interested in writing these reports for us too, get in touch. These quarterly intelligence briefings, if you want to be an agent for our intelligence service. All right, so I'll see y'all later.

Grant Holloway break the 60m world record just prior to the podcast and we discuss his greatness, the fast times at the 10,000 in California, Katelyn Tuohy's collegiate debut, the stacked women's field in the 10,000m at the US Olympic Trials, and are joined at 62:49 by Ben True. True discusses his 27:14 10,000m pb, trying to make the US Olympic team, being unsponsored, paying a guy $20,000 a year to workout with him and super shoes. Become a LetsRun.com Insider. Join our Supporters Club today. https://www.letsrun.com/subscribe Get exclusive discounts (20% off running shoes right now), a private forum, and private podcasts. The Friday Fifteen (weekend preview) is the latest in Supporters Club content. We want your feedback on the pod and the new design on LetsRun.com. Email podcast@letsrun.com or call 1-844-LETSRUN and hit option 7 to leave a private voicemail Show notes: 3:50 Grant Holloway 7.29 World Record 10:52 Rest of Madrid: 15:08 Super Spikes. Do times matter anymore? 24:35 The 10: Marc Scott, Elise Cranny and Bowerman TC, King Ches DNF 32:14 Max Siegel 36:16 Kiernan Tuntivate Dreams Become Reality 46:44 Does Molly Huddle not make the women's 10,000m team? 57:05 Katelyn Tuohy collegiate debut 60:49 Good covid news on fans in stands 62:49 Ben True Interview Support LetsRun.com's Track Talk by contributing to their Tip Jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/letsrun Find out more at http://podcast.letsrun.com Send us your feedback online: https://pinecast.com/feedback/letsrun/ce060667-9053-4ec5-94e8-a54a7fbc1403

Big question: Who will hit the Olympic 10,000m standard? This is what it’s all about. This meet, organized by Sound Running, consists of just two races, both featuring small elite fields targeting the Olympic standards of 27:28.00 (men) and 31:25.00 (women). Currently, just three American men (Lopez Lomong, Eric Jenkins, and Shadrack Kipchirchir) and nine American women have the standard. And while it is possible to qualify for the Olympics based off your world ranking, your position is a heck of a lot safer with the standard in your back pocket. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFe2...​ The TEN (California) Free live stream: Professional Track Series YouTube channel Start times: 11:15 p.m. ET (women), 11:55 p.m. ET (men) Entrants: Men — Grant Fisher, Ben True, Woody Kincaid, Edward Cheserek, Chris Derrick, Marc Scott, Kieran Tuntivate, Reid Buchanan; Women — Marielle Hall, Gwen Jorgensen, Karissa Schweizer, Elise Cranny, Kim Conley, Emily Infeld, Eilish McColgan #theTEN​ #KarissaSchweizer​ #EdwardCheserek​ In March of 2020, I slipped on the illegally dumped cooking grease in front of John’s Burger and couldn’t walk for 6 weeks. This was my first injury since I started Endurance Training in 1979. Then in late April of 2020, I ended up in the hospital for the first time in my life. The diagnosis was Congestive Heart Failure. This Vlog / Podcast documents my Sixth Decade of Endurance Training. The past Decade was about HOW FAR I could go. This Decade will be about HOW FAST can I go post Congestive Heart Failure. https://linktr.ee/AND3RSON --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/andy-noise/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/andy-noise/support

Happy New Year. We talk about a thrilling Hakone Ekiden, the pro track season that is shaping up, athletes switching sponsors, getting dropped, and retiring, before looking ahead to 2021 and giving our predictions. Then we are joined by **Geoff Burns** @ 73:26 to discuss the super shoe revolution. Geoff was the 2016 USATF 100km champion, has a PhD in kinesiology, and is a post-doctoral research fellow at the Michigan Performance Research Lab in the Exercise and Sports Science Initiative. Want to become a LetsRun.com Insider? Join our Supporters Club today and get exclusive content, the iconic L E T S R U N . C O M shirt (or the 1:59:40 shirt), huge savings on running shoes, a private forum and knowledge you are supporting independent running journalism. Click here to take advantage of New Year's pricing. Please rate and review us on itunes! Show notes: 3:22 Hakone Ekiden (shoes worn here) 18:45 Indoor Track is Here /XC Season Shaping Up 26:31 Athletes Switching Sponsors / Getting Dropped (Ryan Hill, Molly Seidel, Ben True) 39:28 Kyle Merber retires 44:39 2021 Predictions: (Houlihan,Brazier, Coburn, Tokyo) 58:56 Jon's bold prediction 63:55 Men's 100m 73:26 Geoff Burns Want to reach us? Email podcast@letsrun.com or call 1-844-LETSRUN and hit option 7 to leave a private voicemail (or you can reach our phones) Want a LetsRun.com shirt or a 1:59:40 shirt? shop.letsrun.com Support LetsRun.com's Track Talk by contributing to their Tip Jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/letsrun Find out more at http://podcast.letsrun.com Send us your feedback online: https://pinecast.com/feedback/letsrun/d47bb783-6033-476f-a7e4-01270ab8218f

Living as a Pro Athlete Couple, Motivation, and BalanceMy guests today are Sarah and Ben True. Sarah and Ben are a professional athlete couple living and training in New Hampshire. Ben is a professional runner who holds the American road record in the 5k and has represented the US multiple times in cross country and track. Sarah is a professional triathlete and 2x Olympian for the US in both London and Rio. She's won a silver medal and two bronze in the ITU World Championships and has since stepped up to compete at the Ironman distance.This was a fun episode, in part because it was our first episode with two guests. We had a lively conversation about a variety of topics including the strain your body takes as endurance athletes, what it's like to live with another professional athlete, training solo versus training in groups, how they approach nutrition, and what it takes to keep motivation high.Find Ben & Sarah:YoutubeSarah's InstagramBen's InstagramSarah's TwitterFind Momentous:Sarah's Uncut MomentsBen's Uncut MomentsThe Importance of SleepLiveMomentousInstagramFacebookTwitterYoutube

"One of the hardest conversations I ever had was to admit that I’d been struggling. And I no longer wanted to be alive." Sarah True is a professional triathlete and Olympian. On this episode, she honestly and vulnerably shares her story of competing at the 2016 Olympics in Rio, hitting rock bottom, and the intense emotional recovery that followed. She opens up about her history with mood disorders and depression, and talks about how stress affects her body and her performance. She also talks about the past two years competing at the Ironman distance, including a very good year followed by a challenging one. Thank you to AfterShokz for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! CLICK HERE for $50 off your Aeropex wireless headphone endurance bundle!   What you’ll get on this episode: On diversity, inclusivity, privilege, and bias in sport (3:00) Sarah reflects on her racing year (8:30) Sarah talks about competing at the 2016 Olympics in Rio, and the emotional aftermath that followed (24:45) Sarah talks about managing her depression, and what that looks like today (36:00) How Sarah met her now-husband, fellow professional athlete Ben True (46:00) What Sarah says are the universal struggles in sport (51:00)   Follow Sarah: Instagram @sarah.b.true Twitter @sgroffy Facebook Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Facebook Twitter @aliontherun1 Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you’re enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

This week we have Olympian, Ironman and Advocate, Sarah True as our guest this week.  We got a chance to talk to her in Kona where she rocked up and sealed a 4th place to Daniella Ryf, Lucy Charles and Ann Hauge.  We are going to get to inside scoop on how that race went down plus much, much more. Today's show is supported by iKOR Labs.  iKOR is a clean, natural source of recovery enhancing CBD hemp extract that protects your body from the stresses of training, improves recovery from intense efforts and helps you maintain a positive mental state. The most bio-available CBD product on the market, iKOR is a highly protective anti-oxidant and effective anti-inflammatory.  WADA and USADA legal.  Used by world class professional athletes.  Save 20% by using the code "endurance" at checkout. Go to www.ikorlabs.com for more details.  Thanks to last week's guests, Panos Papadiamantis, co-founder of PNOE, which is a mobile metabolic testing device.  Panos explained how it works and what the benefits are for doing the testing in the real world.  There are some great resources on the MHE Resources page.  If you haven't heard the interview, go back and listen to episode #151. Our interview is sponsored by Riplaces.  Riplaces are the no tie laces with custom tension for the perfect fit.  Pro triathlete proven and endorsed, most durable elastic bungee lace system available and they come in the  MHE logo package.  The regular price for the custom set is $19.98.  For a limited time, through the end of the year Riplaces is going to offer a 25% discount. Just use the code MHE25 to get that 25% discount. These are a great Christmas stocking idea for your loved endurance athlete.  Go to  https://www.riplaces.com/collections/mile-high-endurance for more information. We met Sarah in Kona and enjoyed her energy and spirit.  We saw her come out of the swim with the first group of female pros.  Later we saw her come into T2 with the first few riders.  Later still we saw her run her way up to 3rd place going into the energy lab. We were stoked thinking we were going to have an American on the podium this year.  All due respect to Switzerland, UK, and Germany - love you guys - USA is due.  On the media stand we got the news that Ann Haug had pulled into 3rd place.  Sarah held onto 4th.  We had all sorts of questions.  Did she go out on the run too fast?  How was her nutrition?  How was the heat affecting her? About two weeks ago, an article came out from USAT about Sarah "Breaking the Stigma about Mental Health".   We read the article, but we had a ton of questions.  What is her experience in her own words?  How common is depression and anxiety?  How do athlete's experience it?  What are it's causes?  How do women and men deal with it?  What are Sarah's recommendations for those dealing with depression?  We want to ask all of these things of our guest. Finally, we teased a video mid-week of Sarah at the 2012 London Olympics.  Note that she had not yet married Ben True at this point, so she was racing under her maiden name Sarah Groff.  If you watched the video, you know she came out of T2 in 7th place and battled her way up to running shoulder to shoulder with the other race leaders.  It was an epic and gutsy performance.  If you haven't seen it, make sure you  either find the post on our social media handles or it will be here in the show notes.  What was going on in Sarah's head during the race?  How deep was she going to catch the group?  Was she speeding up or were they slowing down? Here to answer all of these questions and more is our new show friend, Sarah True! Welcome back.  Our post interview discussion is sponsored by Halo Neuroscience.  The Halo Sport from Halo Neuroscience will help you learn the technique and form to get faster.  20 minutes of neural priming with the Halo Headset gives you an hour of neural plasticity to work and lock in the muscle movement that leads to strength, power and endurance.  If you are looking for a premium gift for your endurance athlete for the holidays, this is that item.  Use code MHE150 to save $150. According to the National Institute of Mental Health, in any given year, an estimated 16.2 million adults in the U.S. experience a major depressive episode. And an estimated 40 million adults live with anxiety disorders. Sarah True’s tips for dealing with depression as an athlete Seek professional help: People who love you, they want to help, but they don’t have the skills to do so. That is too much pressure on my husband (professional runner Ben True). Talk to a therapist. Back off the training: If you’re physically exhausted from overtraining, your capacity to absorb stressors is limited. Adjust your race and training schedule. But, staying active is important: Because of the hormonal and chemical response to enhance your mood. Find that balance. Communicate with your coach: A good coach will never judge you or use your mental health against you. Reach out for help: I let people close to me know how bad my depression was. This was incredibly hard to verbalize, but once I did, talking about it started to help. Give yourself time: I knew because I’d been through periods in the past, that it was just a matter of time. I knew that it would end. That with some help, I could get through it.   Ironman Arizona: Khem and Rich will be recording next week's episode from Tempe AZ…. 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Today we welcome professional runner Garrett Heath of the Brooks Beast Team. Garrett was a 9-time All-American at Standford before turning professional. Garrett won the 2014 and 2015 Edinburgh Cross Country short course races before beating Mo Farah in the world championships in 2016. We catch up with Garrett about what his plans are for the future and talk to him about a time he almost took out a rabbit in a race.  How did you get your start in running? Running across the gym in kindergarten and lead to stitches in forehead Was always outdoor and active growing up Middle school my father pushed me away from football so tried cross country running You ran for a great program in high school did that help keep you interested? Was exposed to high school team while in middle school There are many successful runners who came out of Minnesota and many of them seemed to spend a lot of time cross country skiing in the winter, did you do much skiing? Did almost all skiing in winter Does keep up fitness, but grow upper body mass and lose a little in the legs You had a great career at Stanford and I’ve heard in your college career your coach had some interesting ways to work on overspeed work? Used a Vespa and attacked long bungee cord on the back and around our waist and would pull you around the track  Seems crazy now, but made us run fast from 100-400 meters  When did you know that you wanted to try your hand at professional running? Didn't even realize it was a thing until I was in college Junior year started thinking how it could happen Junior year went and did a few races in Europe which exposed me to it What was it like running in Europe, how was it different? Meets are like 10-hours in college while over there it is more of a spectator event and entertainment so meets are just a few hours Really physical  Sounds like there is a model of how to make track and field a success with the public, why don't you think we do this in the US? Trying, some races do, some mile races  College meets too long Track Town did a great job with this too First time you broke 4 minutes in the mile? At U of Washington. My brother was running at the Junior Cross Country Championships at the same time in Boulder. I was super excited and at the same time my brother was running and won the US Junior race. You are now running with Danny Mackey and Brooks Beast Team, how did that connection happen? Was running with friends, but they started joining other teams so ended up doing a lot of solo time Liked the resources they had available, much like a college team Early in your career, you focused more on the 1500, then you started with some 5ks but this year you ran a good 10k at the Payton Jordan. Where do you see yourself focusing going forward? Getting more used to the longer grinding workouts/runs Still, enjoy the 1500, but I am turning into more of a 5/10k guy Still unfinished busienss in the 5k and just starting with the 10k You have had a lot of success running longer distances in cross country, how different is it racing those bad weather cross contry races vs a controlled track race? XC you need to change your efforts a lot more like a fartlek XC races go by a lot quicker, different things to think about Track try to turn off brain If money and everything were the same would you make a living on the track, roads or xc course? Cross Country Love the team aspect even on national teams You have mentioned a few times about the mental aspect of of racing, how much time do you spend working on your mental game? The mental game is huge Need to work on it in practice Being confident in training goes along with it Not sure how much you pay attention to Let’s Run, but One of the posts from January this year asked who is most jacked Chris Solinsky vs. Garrett Heath vs. Ben True. So how much do you lift and work on strength? We did not lift in college hardly at all Most of that came from cross country skiing and trying to get rid of some of that upper body weight With Brooks and I spend 45 mins 2x a week, but more minimalist lifting than others on the team One thing a lot of casual observers of our sport may not realize is when you run for a team, it is not like running for a professional football or baseball team with a huge salary. What is that relationship like with your sponsors? Spend a lot of time in Brooks office Coming out of college was blind to how it worked Talked to a lot of agents in the day right after finished NCAA The problem was it was in 2009 downturn was not any money Really tough sport because the market is limited Also, run for Roka Sunglasses Final Surge round, 5 questions in under a minute Favorite endurance/running book? - Running with the Buffaloes  Current trainers you are wearing? - Brooks Glycerin  Favorite race? – Edinburgh Cross Country  Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? – Chocolate Chip Pancakes Your favorite workout – Long Tempos    https://www.instagram.com/garrettheath Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rungarrettrun/ Twitter https://twitter.com/_garrettheath 

Sarah True is a two-time Olympian and three-time ITU World Medalist who has recently made the switch to long course non-draft triathlon as a professional. She lives in New Hampshire with her husband, professional runner Ben True, and their dog. She and Ben have teamed up with Des and Ryan Linden to launch the coffee-roasting start-up Linden & True.

Register to win a 3-Month Subscription to Linden & True Coffee! Visit purplepatchfitness.com/coffee for the details. On April 16th, 2018, Des Linden became the first United States female to win the famed Boston Marathon in 33 years. While she admits that she often plays the role of “underdog,” this year was different. She went from “underdog” to champion in a race that brought with it epic wind, rain, and freezing temperatures. When others faded, she chiseled away and rose to the top, earning the dream victory of a professional running career that started at the Boston Marathon back in 2006. What goes into a victory like the Boston Marathon? It certainly wasn’t an easy victory. In fact, much has been reported about the fact that Des almost quit the race because she felt that it wasn't her day. But, she rode the wave and came out on top. What a lesson in life and performance! Today, she and her husband, elite Purple Patch triathlete, Ryan Linden, explore performance and relationships in this intimate conversation with Matt Dixon. This isn’t a Boston Marathon recap, but a glimpse behind the curtain of two elite athletes and how they manage their training, racing, recovery, and day-to-day responsibilities as partners in each other's success. What are the components of their successful relationship and what can others learn from their journey?  How do they overcome their own pain, adversity, and fear?  Both Ryan and Des have evolved and changed throughout their careers and they graciously open up about their personal evolutions and explore how their thoughts around coaching, collaboration, and training have matured through the years. The lessons they've learned are lessons for anyone seeking peak performance.  This is a personal conversation that feels like you're sitting with them having a cup of tea or coffee.  Speaking of coffee - Des and Ryan even talk about another passion of theirs: the debut of Linden & True Coffee earlier this year in conjunction with another pair of elite athletes, Sarah and Ben True. In fact, they’re giving away free coffee to lucky listeners. Go to purplepatchfitness.com/coffee for your chance to win a 3-month subscription to Linden & True Coffee. Purple Patch has also teamed up with CycleOps and PowerTap to make your summer training sizzle! Visit purplepatchfitness.com/getcracking  for the chance to win a Magnus Indoor Trainer, pair of P1 Pedals and a consultation with Matt Dixon!    Des Linden Instagram Des Linden Twitter Des Linden Facebook Fan Page Ryan Linden Instagram Linden & True Coffee Website Linden & True Instagram   Follow Purple Patch Fitness and learn more about our Coaching Services, Training Camps, Promotions and Matt's Latest Book, Fast Track Triathlete: Purple Patch Fitness Website Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Instagram Thanks for taking a listen and, if you like what you hear, please subscribe, share, rate and review. Your feedback is appreciated. Subscribe to the Purple Patch Podcast: Apple Podcasts Spotify Stitcher Google Play   Copyright 2018 All Rights Reserved

Welcome to episode 86 of the Final Surge podcast with our guest Olympian turned coach Tim Broe. If you were a running fan in the early 2000's you probably remember Tim as one of the few bright spots in US Distance running scene. Tim is now a professional coach with the Saucony Freedom Track Club. We talk to Tim about his early days in running, his Olympic experience and the devastating injury that ended his career to early. We then talk about his latest experience with the Freedom Track Club. If you enjoy this episode please rate us on iTunes and follow us on Twitter  @FinalSurge. How did you get your start in athletics? Started running in middle school, got dragged into it As a 7th grader ran 5:45 and kept improving Won a state title as a junior in high school Ran under legendary Michigan coach Ron Warhurst as a professional right? Ran at Alabama, they offered me a scholarship 12-time All American, but didn't take it serious enough until last year After senior year worked at a local shoe store and trained by himself After coming in 4th in the steeple in the Trials became more motivated Kevin Sullivan a Michigan runner and coach put him in touch with Ron Moved to Michigan to train with him What was that like, what makes him such a great coach? He lives it 24-7 First time met Ron had me put on spikes and do 20x400 with every 5th one at 59 Nailed it and next day did a 2-hour run Ron took me after hearing that He very much determines workouts by how you feel that day 2004 you made US Olympic team in the 5k, what was it like running for your country in the biggest show in running? Won trials, but didn't have a qualifying time Had to run 13:21, went to London and ran 13:18 Felt stressed out and didn't have a chance to enjoy it as much as should Did opening ceremonies and the whole two weeks  You mentioned had to go get a qualifying time after your Olympic Trials win. Running in the early 2000’s wasn’t exactly the high point in American distance running. You were one of the few bright spots during this time. Was it something that you paid attention to while it was happening? Most high school programs in the 90's did not do much volume, everything was short intervals Did not figure it out until senior year in college The difference now is coaches have their athletes do a lot more tempo, LT, CV pacing for more volume Talk about how your career came to an end after the high Foot injury, bones were fused together  Had to have bone removed and it lead to a lot more issues At Olympics had a broken foot and torn plantar Just added up quickly How did you make your transition into coaching? That is all I knew Was at home and visiting old high school coach Started helping with boys team in 2007 and ended up taking over Worked with a non-profit group of professionals You coach the Freedom Track Club how did that start Started coaching Ben True who was a Saucony Athlete Saucony approached him about creating a team When you start with Wesley high school athletes, what type of program are you trying to bring to them to develop younger runners? Started with performance increase enjoyment, but found kids don't care as much as they do just belonging to a team One kid had early success which helped develop the team size  Be a good teammate and work hard Do everything right and the times will come How different was it coaching a team with 11 kids vs 78? The message was the same, approach was a little different The program had no expectations They are driven, usually have to pull them back I've heard your runners you coach and you talk about taking control of the race, what does that mean for you? At some point, if you are a competitor you need to make your mark and take a lead Focus on racing and not times and times will come What advice do you have for someone who maybe isn’t at the level to compete near the front and maybe focusing on just setting a PR. What advice do you have for your kids who are not going for a win, but are a number 6 runner on your team?  Win your battles As race unfolds will be with a few kids, that is your battle for win, for a title In a big workout may have them do a workout then run a flat out 400 at the end to build confidence at end of a race Last fall you had a big signing with Molly Seidel to the Freedom Track Club. I saw she got sick before Payton Jordon, how is her training going? Cleaned up form stuff Been working hard in weight room Training at 85% level, still building a base on her before hit it hard Will run 10k next week to get a qualifier for USA's Ben True raced the Pre 2-mile race this past week, how did his race go? Ben moved on from team last year He moved to Hanover and the coaching was just to far so parted ways How will the team develop over the next 2-3 years? We don't have the budget of a Nike, but we are developing a good program Will add a few more after NCAA Nationals this summer Final Surge 5 questions in under a minute Favorite endurance/running book? - Men of Oregon Current trainers you are wearing? - Kinvara Favorite race? - Billy Mills 10k and favorite to run was 3k Favorite recovery meal or recovery drink? - Donuts and chocolate mill Your favorite workout - The Michigan Resources Email Tim 

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Ben True joins The CITIUS MAG Podcast with Chris Chavez to discuss his win at the 2018 United NYC Half. He takes us through how the race played out since I finished 33 minutes behind him and haven't been able to watch a replay yet. With his 62:39 winning time, Ben became the first American male open division winner in the event's history. He finished ahead of Dathan Ritzenhein and Chris Thompson on a chilly and windy morning in New York City. Ben immediately dismisses any marathon plans and talks but shares a quick story about how he's actually covered the marathon distance before and what his thoughts are toward the 26.2 mile distance.  Among the questions discussed: - Feelings about the race now that he's had time to process it. - The decision to race a half marathon - How and why he started working with Ray Treacy (also Molly Huddle's coach) - The Lone Wolf mentality and how he stays motived through solo workouts - What does he consider his best race ever? - Funniest interaction and story with a drug tester Listener questions include:  - What does he do to stay healthy? - Are oats part of his pre-race go-to? What's his favorite post-race meal? - Beer Mile: Hassan Mead vs. Ben True - What's the best place to run in Lebanon? - Favorite form of cross training when it's not skiing season? -  Responding to allegations from his neighbor on why the neighborhood smells of home-brewed coffee - Will he ever make a return to posting his workouts on Strava? We also play two Ben Truths and a Ben Lie (h/t Evan Schwartz of the 1609 Podcast for the idea) ----- The CITIUS MAG Podcast is presented by MAURTEN. Try the world's most carbohydrate rich sports drink. CITIUS MAG PODCAST LISTENERS GET 20% OFF THEIR NEXT ORDER: Use promo code CITIUS20 at checkout.

Jojo and Kevin chat with Ben True, winner of last weekend's New York City Half Marathon. Jojo and Kevin ask Ben about debuting at the half marathon, how many times he's been asked if he's running a marathon, almost walking away from the sport in 2016, his background in skiing, why sliced bread is overrated and his favorite winter Olympic moments.

It is easy to get swept up in the exploits of Shalane Flanagan, Ben True, and other elite runners, but the triumphs and struggles of everyday runners can be just as inspirational. In thiIt is easy to get swept up in the exploits of Shalane Flanagan, Ben True, and other elite runners, but the triumphs and struggles of everyday runners can be just as inspirational. In this episode of the Rambling Runner Podcast, Kristen D'Almeida (www.instagram.com/kdalmeida) talks about her journey from trying to avoid the mile run in high school gym class to running 35 races, including seven half marathons, in three short years. Along the way she discovered the positive mental and emotional effects of running as she dealt with her father's cancer diagnosis. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

A conversation with Ben True, my friend and former teammate on the Sun Valley Elite Team. Ben is one of the best 5000 meter runners in the world. His personal best time of 13:02.74 is 9th all-time for Americans. We touched on his start in skiing and running, what it was like to do 3 varsity sports throughout his Dartmouth career, the difference between running and skiing professionally, his brief foray into professional cross country skiing, what his training looks like now, the Olympics, performance enhancing drug use in sport and what he's looking forward to for the next couple years.

Saucony athlete Maverick Darling joins the podcast to share the story behind his cool name and his decision to return back to Madison and train under Mick Byrne. Darling provides insight into his first few years as a professional athlete and training with the likes of Ben True, Sam Chelanga and Nick Willis over the last two years. Very familiar with winning national titles, Darling provides his own analysis of the current state of Wisconsin cross-country and track. Darling will race the 5,000-meter run in Huesden on July 18.