Podcasts about Gish

Mehdi Hasan joins the Prospect podcast this week, talking to Prospect's Ben Clark about Trump, tech bros, cancel culture and…“Gish galloping”.He opens up about his departure from MSNBC after the network cancelled The Mehdi Hasan Show and discusses his move from mainstream to alternative media, almost a year since founding Zeteo on Substack. Zeteo's contributors now include Naomi Klein and Greta Thunberg.He criticises the media's failings, from reporting on Israel's violence to holding Trump and his acolytes to account, and what he identifies as “anticipatory obedience” to the president.Finally, Mehdi shares advice for young journalists, and reflects on where he finds hope in dark times.Plus, Ellen and Alona talk Valentine's Day: “banger” or “dud”? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This time Dan and Erik talk about the record Screen on the Green by Peer Pressure Zombies. We also spread misinformation about two Billy brothers. 

***This episode has been our Jonah and has been cursed from the beginning! We are re-releasing it because the first version had fuzzy audio***Chris and Simon wind up the old gramophone and share some numbers from angelic choirs, the nodding ones beyond the grave, and from the rarely good people in the hollow hill. Sing along with a banshee! Trill to a phantom air from Dartmoor! Rhapsodize over an orca's mermaid song! And shake your tambourine at yellow bats, breeding foxes, Dolly Parton and finger-chewing nereids! Are our listeners in harmony with the Music of the Spheres or are these mysterious melodies something more mundane? Kudos also to our organ player from Ohio and to the poltergeist who follows us through the recording BibliographyParacoustics: Sound & The Paranormal, edited by Steven T. Parson s & Callum E. CooperMusic from Elsewhere, Haunting Tunes From Mythical Beings, Hidden Worlds, and Other Curious Sources, Doug Skinner, 2024. Has music notation. “anomalous music”  including fairy, trow [troh or trouw ow and troll music, Spiritualist music, “music of the sky people”No Earthly Sounds- Faery Music, Song & Verse, John KruseMusic and the paranormal : an encyclopedic dictionaryMelvyn J. Willin (Author)Shaman of Oberstdorf: Chonrad Stoeckhlin and the Phantoms of the NightBy Wolfgang Behringer chapter on unearthly music in the AlpsThe Music of “An Adventure”, Ian Parrott, 1966Barbara Hillers: “Music from the Otherworld: Modern Gaelic Legends about Fairy Music” in Proceedings of the Harvard Celtic Colloquium, Vol. 14 (1994), p59Ríonach Uí Ógáin: “Music Learned from the Fairies” in Béaloideas Bay la Gish 60-61 (1992-3), pp197-214 Chapter on fairy music in The Peat-Fire Flame: Folk-Tales and Traditions of the Highlands & Islands, Alasdair Alpin MacGregor 1937https://archive.org/details/peatfireflamefol00macg/page/30/mode/2up?q=gigha&view=theaterLovely and Mysterious: The Music of Fairyland, Chris Woodyard, Fortean Times October 2014NAD A study of Some Unusual “Other-World” Experiences, D. Scott RogoNAD Vol. 2 A psychic study of the “Music of the Spheres”, D. Scott RogoMusica Trascendentale, E. Bozzano, 1943

Kody completely loses his mind and turns his new realtor into his therapist. Gish galloping, Air B&B purchasing, and more as the Brown family repeat old patterns in varieties of new ways. Dr. Adam has the scoops on an emotionally volatile episode of this show!Enjoy this podcast ad-free, along with monthly bonus podcasts ⁠⁠⁠⁠on Patreon!⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow TSWP on Facebook ⁠⁠⁠⁠right here!⁠⁠Intro/outro music by ⁠⁠There Will Be Fireworks⁠ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Send us a textThe Gish gallop is a technique employed to skip away from the current topic and toward other supposedly related topics so as to confuse and overcomplicate a discussion and make it much more difficult to debunk or oppose. Finding ways to dismantle or circumvent the Gish gallop is one of several primary concerns among people who want to find ways to reach the people who are lost in conspiracy thinking. Proof By Association is one logical fallacy that can be pointed to as a resource for doing exactly that.

Today on The Conversation, we're sharing interviews with talented creatives in Hawai'i who have picked up some big awards in recognition of the work they do.

PL's mom passed and sent some signs. Heather had a horrifying experience set to The Police. L got a visit from her Black Kitty. Michael tells us about the synchronicities he often experiences. Matthew writes in about his new psychic pup. Roger had a paranormal Irish encounter.Please send us your own true paranormal experiences in either a voice memo or e-mail to funnyfeelingpod@gmail.com.Rocket Money is the easiest way to find subscriptions, manage bills, and even cancel recurring charges with a single click. Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/FUNNYFEELING.Advertise on A Funny Feeling via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, Anousha and Bright invited Dr. Robert Gish to speak about hepatitis B Reactivation, a serious health issue often overlooked in the discourse surrounding hepatitis B and liver cancer.Learn more about Dr. Gish at his website www.robertgish.com as well as through his podcast linked below.  Everything Liver Podcast: https://www.robertgish.com/podcastSupport the showOur website: www.hepb.orgSupport B Heppy!Social Media: Instagram - Twitter - Facebook

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In today's episode, I speak with Ashley Gish. Ashley has a doctorate degree in Women's Health and is also a Nurse Practitioner. She is also certified in Functional Medicine. We dive into topics that aren't often talked about publicly like the menstrual cycle, menopause, and perimenopause. To learn more about Ashley and to work with Ashley, you can visit her website @ https://www.ashleygish.com/

Guests in part 2: Andy Champion - SVP International at 6sense  Right way to expand GTM internationally  #1 thing companies do wrong when expanding into EMEA Jon Russo - Founder and CMO at B2B Fusion  ABM vs ABX, definitions, which is right for you  What NOT to do when moving from lead-based to account-based Christine Polewarczyk - SVP Product Marketing and Research at PathFactory  Supporting the buyers journey in a frictionless way using AI  Back to basics - all about quality  Surj Gish & Juanita Baker - Managing director and VP strategy, planning, and integration at ROI DNA  Foundations in 6sense to maximize investment with LinkedIn  How to not be bullied to stop TOFU for lower funnel conversion tactics  Kerry Cunningham - Research and Thought Leadership at 6sense  2024 buyer experience report - trends, insights  How to align marketing and sales in modern B2B buyers journey  Resources: https://6sense.com/resources/buyer-experience-report/2024-b2b-buyer-experience-report APPLY TO BE A GUEST ON THE SHOW: https://forms.gle/6jUecnsviQVNocMe7  More about the host, Janelle Amos: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janelleamos/ Website: https://elevate-growth.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCno8t8RqELf294gsRViqc7A

The 1991 debut album Gish by The Smashing Pumpkins marked the band's entry into the alternative rock scene with a unique mix of psychedelic rock, heavy metal, and dream pop elements. Produced by Butch Vig, who would later work with Nirvana on Nevermind, the album showcases the band's early experimentation with layered guitars, intricate rhythms, raw energy, and dense sonic textures that would become hallmarks of the Pumpkins sound. Although Gish did not initially achieve mainstream success, it garnered a strong underground following, helping to set the stage for the band's breakthrough with Siamese Dream in 1993. Celebrated for its unique blend of intensity and melody, it serves as an early glimpse into the Pumpkins' evolving musical ambitions, complete the fingerprints of Jane's Addiction, Van Halen, and Black Sabbath.   Songs In This Episode Intro - Tristessa 16:57 - I Am One 21:57 - Rhinoceros 30:36 - Window Paine 33:46 - Siva Outro - Bury Me   Support the podcast, join the DMO UNION at Patreon. Listen to the episode archive at DigMeOutPodcast.com.

The 1991 debut album Gish by The Smashing Pumpkins marked the band's entry into the alternative rock scene with a unique mix of psychedelic rock, heavy metal, and dream pop elements. Produced by Butch Vig, who would later work with Nirvana on Nevermind, the album showcases the band's early experimentation with layered guitars, intricate rhythms, raw energy, and dense sonic textures that would become hallmarks of the Pumpkins sound. Although Gish did not initially achieve mainstream success, it garnered a strong underground following, helping to set the stage for the band's breakthrough with Siamese Dream in 1993. Celebrated for its unique blend of intensity and melody, it serves as an early glimpse into the Pumpkins' evolving musical ambitions, complete the fingerprints of Jane's Addiction, Van Halen, and Black Sabbath.   Songs In This Episode Intro - Tristessa 16:57 - I Am One 21:57 - Rhinoceros 30:36 - Window Paine 33:46 - Siva Outro - Bury Me   Support the podcast, join the DMO UNION at Patreon. Listen to the episode archive at DigMeOutPodcast.com.

Today on the Dangerous Creatives Podcast, Kristin talks with Team Danger coach Lauren Gish about the changes they've made in their businesses to attract higher-value clients. After changing price levels, it can be hard to start finding and connecting with the clients who you want to work with. Kristin and Lauren share their tips and experiences on what has worked for them, as their businesses have grown through the years. Check Out Our Growth Plan Workshop: ⁠⁠https://dangerschool.com/growthplan⁠ Work with Us: ⁠⁠https://dangerschool.com/⁠⁠ Connect with Lauren Instagram @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠laurengish⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Connect with Kristin Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠kristinsweeting⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Credits: Music by @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shammydee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Produced by @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠jenmadigancreative⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://jenmadigancreative.com⁠⁠⁠

Billy Corgan e seus companheiros de banda no The Smashing Pumpkins já haviam dado uma boa mostra de seu trabalho com o lançamento de "Gish" (1991), entretanto, foi com o álbum seguinte, "Siamese Dream" (1993), que a banda de Chicago se consolidou como uma das mais importantes e influentes da década de 1990. Nesta edição, Cleber Facchi (@cleberfacchi) e a jornalista Maura Martins (@escotilha) contam a história e conversam sobre o álbum que revelou sucessos como "Today", "Disarm" e "Mayonaise".Gostou do podcast? Então apoie a gente em ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠apoia.se/podcastvfsm

Hey there Bookshelvers! A midweek podcast extra!? What's going on? Well…we're going off piste a little today but with good reason. Many of you may know that there is a lot of division within the dog training industry (what's new we hear you cry). Lately there has been a call for unity and a call for people with different training styles, ethics and core beliefs to come together and talk it out for the good of the dogs and humans. Here at PACT headquarters we thought we would record an episode talking through some of key points that are being debated and, more importantly, what we think about the question of unity and whether or not, we feel having these conversations/debates is useful. We decided to predominantly record this for our PACT members and, of course, for anyone else that is listening that is a professional in the dog training industry, has an interest in becoming a dog trainer in the future or just loves dogs and wants what is best for them and their guardians moving forward. Having become directors of one of the training organisations that seem to be looked down upon in these discussions we thought we should go on the record and fight the good fight for animal welfare, wellbeing and ethics. I would imagine that most of our listeners are pretty clear on where our ethical standards are. Those who listen will also have a good idea of what the science, especially welfare sciences, are informing us about the use of aversive methods on ALL individuals. So although we thought we'd discuss these topics this certainly isn't a bridge to try to combine our ethical approach with one that we do not support. On top of that we are also individuals with different takes on different things so we really hope you enjoy this episode. Topics we cover include: ·       What does regulation mean to us?·       What are ethics vs morals and how should that inform the decisions we make when interacting with animals?·       Is there an issue with a lack of practical training being offered by organisations. Is the landscape too theoretical?·       Should we have discussions between camps?·       Gish gallop & unfair debating tactics we see·       Time it takes to train purely positively ·       Boundaries. Where are the lines in the sand?·       What makes an excellent trainer? We have titled this talk “Le Chat Part un” I hope this is taken in the good hearted and tongue in cheek way it is intended and we have more to talk about so let us know if you'd be up for us recording a “Le Chat Part Deux” and we'll get on it.

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Dr. Scott Asnis, Founder & CEO of Dental365, Dr. Joseph Carpentieri, Director of Clinical Education of Dental365 and Dr. Joshua Gish, President of Leading Edge Specialized Dentistry join the show. Key discussion points include: Dental365's 10-year anniversary Supporting academic advancements of their doctors What is Dental365's Dental Health Ecosystem? How they successfully integrated specialty dentistry Much more To learn more about Dental365 and Leading Edge Specialized Dentistry visit https://www.godental365.com/ If you like our podcast, please give us a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review on iTunes https://apple.co/2Nejsfa and a Thumbs Up on YouTube.

First we discuss how the term “Gish gallop” has entered the common vernacular thanks to the recent Presidential debate. Then Ben ponders why conspiracy buffs don't care about the admitted, real Boeing conspiracy, or why psychics can't offer up explanations for the Rust killing. Celestia gets excited about folklore in pop culture: namely, “The Crooked Man” in a new Hellboy movie. For our main segment, we are rejoined by skeptical author and illustrator Daniel Loxton, to talk about MONSTER HUNTS!—that is, serious expeditions to find cryptids or other mysterious creatures. From Nazis looking for Yeti to missionaries searching out dinosaurs in Africa, there are anthropological considerations when engaging with locals in a foreign land. And what makes a monster hunt successful? Lock Ness is a success in that practically every drop of water in it has been examined, to no avail. We touch on Ben's trips to remote parts of Nicaragua to look for the chupacabra, as well as other expeditions in the 20th century, to find a death worm in Mongolia, the Mokele-mbembe in Africa, and a mermaid-like Ri in New Guinea. We also touch on overpriced Bigfoot “hunt” experiences as well as “educational hoaxes” like snipe hunting.

The Tech-Driven HomeIn this episode, we sit down with Carl Gish, co-founder and co-CEO of Aro Homes, a pioneering company reshaping the housing industry. Aro Homes is on a mission to revolutionize homebuilding through tech-driven solutions, producing fast, efficient, and carbon-negative homes. Carl shares the inspiring origin story of Aro and how the company aims to replace end-of-life homes with environmentally friendly designs that are as beautiful as they are sustainable.Discover how Aro Homes is an end-to-end developer, seamlessly managing every step from property acquisition to after-sales support. Learn about their collaboration with renowned architect Olson Kundig to create stunning homes that appeal to both aesthetics and environmental consciousness. Carl elaborates on Aro's scalable, offsite construction model that enables them to build homes more quickly and efficiently while generating more energy than they consume, thereby offsetting carbon emissions from construction.We also explore Aro Homes' ambitious plans to expand across multiple U.S. markets, aiming to build 800 to 1000 homes annually. Carl discusses their commitment to addressing affordable housing and offering customization options to meet diverse needs.Tune in to hear Carl Gish's unique perspective, drawn from his extensive experience in product development, brand management, and leadership roles at industry giants like Unilever, Amazon, and Dyson.This week at EntreArchitect Podcast, The Tech-Driven Home with Carl Gish.Connect with Carl at Aro Homes, or follow him on LinkedIn.Please visit Our Platform SponsorsGo to https://betterhelp.com/architect for 10% off your first month of therapy with BetterHelp and get matched with a therapist who will listen and help. Thank you to our sponsor BetterHelp for supporting our community of small firm entrepreneur architects.ARCAT.com is much more than a product catalog, with CAD, BIM, and specifications created in collaboration with manufacturers. ARCAT.com also offers LEED data, continuing education resources, newsletters, and the Detailed podcast. Visit https://ARCAT.com to learn more.Visit our Platform Sponsors today and thank them for supporting YOU... The EntreArchitect Community of small firm architects.

Drs Alan Bonder and Robert Gish Discuss Screening for Hepatitis D by Gastroenterology Learning Network

JD and Lou are joined by Frank Garcia-Hejl from the Smashing Pumpkast to discuss the 1991 release Gish from The Smashing Pumpkins.  Rock On!Follow The Smashing Pumpkast @pumpkinspodcast on X and download wherever you get your pods!Ending song clip from @stephenlynchTheme: Trance by The Steepwater Band used by permission - Follow them at www.steepwater.com or follow @steepwaterbandWebsite: https://ridiculousrockrecordreviews.buzzsprout.comContact us! e-mail: ridiculousrockrecords@gmail.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/R4podcastTwitter/X: @r4podcasterInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/r4podcaster/

Back on medication and mindset changes during my Crohn's journey It's been over 20 years since my colon started bleeding and my inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) journey began. In 2003, I ignored the symptoms of blood, pain, and bloating for nearly three years. When I finally sought help in 2006 after a severe flare, it took another three years to reach a diagnosis. In those first six years, I was left to my own devices to try and stop the symptoms and find some way of living a normal life.  When I finally had an IBD diagnosis in 2009, I was relieved to have answers and eager for pharmaceutical help to finally eliminate my symptoms. Eventually, I ended up on a combination therapy of both Imuran and HUMIRA. I got better, but not completely. I didn't have the uncontrollable diarrhea that kept me at home for three months during my first severe flare-up, but I still struggled off and on with pain, blood, and mucus.  I found that I had to watch my diet in order to get the most relief, and my obsession with food and supplements became fanatical. Then, after five years, I thought I had learned and experimented enough that I could stop my medications. And so, under the supervision of my gastroenterologist, I did. I was 32 years old. I was completely free of medications for a little over a year. But, when I started living life again – enjoying food and finding myself in stressful situations that life tends to bring – I went into a moderate flare. I went back on medications for a few months and by the end of 2016, I was off all medications once again. After that, I had multiple minor flare-ups during the next few years involving pain, mucus, and bloating, that I was able to work through using CBD, extended fasting, meditation, and extremely restrictive diets. I didn't seek medication or medical help and thought I was doing fine. In early 2022, I was actually feeling really good and the minor flare-ups seemed to be behind me. But, as many of you can guess how this story goes, IBD wasn't done with me. In the summer of 2022, I had my first bout of intestinal bleeding in over five years. I tried to seek help, but the flare happened during the middle of our move from Texas to Florida and I couldn't get set up with my new doctors in Florida without going through a few hoops with the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). It was (and I'm sure still is) a requirement that I see my new primary care doctor first, and then she would need to put in new referrals for me to be seen in the gastroenterology and nephrology clinics – even though I already had those specialists assigned to me in Texas.  By the time I got to see my new doctors, my symptoms had fortunately gone away and I was back to feeling good. But, that only got me dismissed by the VA's gastroenterologist and another four month wait to get assigned to a gastroenterologist in the VA's community care network, thanks to the help of my primary care provider.    For the past year and a half, I've been well. But we all know that IBD is a disease of remission and flare-ups. Fast forward to today, not even a full two years later, and I'm back in a moderate flare. This time, while it's not the worst I've ever been, it's the worst I've been in a long time. For the past two months, I've been passing blood and mucus up to twelve times a day, frequently nauseous, fatigued (so fatigued!) with low iron saturation showing on my lab results, experiencing intermittent pain and extreme bloating (my fellow IBD warriors know what I'm talking about), and feeling pretty lousy overall. Even my kidney function has declined (it's still fine and we're still watching it, but I find it interesting to see distinct changes in my lab values while my body battles inflammation from Crohn's). I've still been able to leave the house and do things, but the dread of being anywhere not close to a bathroom is back. I've been avoiding meals with friends, fasting a few hours longer than usual if I'm going to be out running errands, and wondering what foods are causing my pain this time. It's been almost ten years since I was on HUMIRA, and during that time, I've changed. For starters, I don't want my life to be controlled by my diet. I don't want to go back to being obsessed with food and every single bite I put into my mouth. My health journey is more complicated now. I'm on medication to lower my blood pressure and hopefully stop IgA nephropathy from causing further damage to my kidneys. I'm taking omeprazole to relieve symptoms of silent reflux, which is causing inflammation in my esophagus and stomach. And that little thing we call stress, which is also my biggest IBD trigger, is not going away – no matter how much sauerkraut I eat or meditation and yoga that I do. I still think diet and lifestyle play significant roles in overall health, but I accept and recognize that at this point, I need more than that. In my current state, I'm reluctant to use some of the supplements and methods I tried in the past. Now that I'm on blood pressure medication, I don't feel safe doing periods of extended fasting because my heart rate drops low and I get lightheaded if I go longer than sixteen hours fasting. So many products have warnings against taking them if you have kidney disease and I don't want to accidentally take an herb or supplement that either lowers my blood pressure even more or causes additional damage to my kidneys. I don't have the knowledge or expertise to start combining natural and pharmaceutical treatments; it's not a road I want to travel. Finally, even though daily meditation has numerous benefits, it doesn't eliminate stressful situations from happening in life. People get sick, work has deadlines, and travel or new experiences can cause anxiety, even if they are exciting adventures. So this time, I'm ready.  This time, I'm not starting medication with one foot out the door. I don't want to wonder what damage is being done by inflammation in my body during minor flare-ups that I try to ignore. I don't want moderate and severe flare-ups to prevent me from enjoying life. I want to live my best life and I'm ready to do that with a biologic medication again. When my symptoms began in early March, we were out of town, so I waited a week to contact my gastroenterologist. When I reached out, he ordered some blood work and a fecal calprotectin test. My CRP was quite a bit higher than my baseline levels, but still considered within the normal range. My calprotectin, however, was definitely high.  So, with my symptoms worsening and a high calprotectin test, my gastroenterologist recommended it was time I go back on medication for Crohn's and I agreed with him. I was finally able to receive my loading dose of HADLIMA this past Friday, April 26 (a biosimilar for HUMIRA that was introduced to the U.S. commercial market on July 1, 2023). My doctor did actually prescribe HUMIRA, but I learned that the VA announced in February that they selected HADLIMA (adalimumab-bwwd), a biosimilar, to replace HUMIRA on the VA National Formulary.(1) It's my understanding that the change took place just this month. As an aside, over the past week I've spent a lot of time on Google catching up on the progress that's been made in the last ten years for IBD medications. I've learned quite a bit about biosimilars, biosimilars with an interchangeability designation(2), and JAK inhibitors that I'll try to write about in a later post! Even though it's been less than a week since I took my loading dose of HADLIMA, I'm already starting to feel better. I know there are risks that come with medications, but there are risks that come with natural treatments and even greater risks when inflammation in the body isn't treated at all. I can't see the damage that may have been done when I ignored minor flare-ups during the years I stopped HUMIRA, but I know I don't want this current moderate flare to take a turn for the worse and I'd like to try and prevent them altogether in the future.  It's been a long journey with Crohn's disease and I know it's far from over. As I reflect back to my first six years with IBD and being left on my own to manage symptoms, I now wonder if I would have been so determined to come off medications ten years ago if I would have received the help and diagnosis I needed at the very beginning. I don't know the answer to that, but what I do know is that as life goes on, we evolve, we grow, and things change – including our perspectives and even beliefs we once held so tightly.  I'm ready now, and I'm grateful. Grateful to have a supportive gastroenterologist who listens and actually believes me, grateful to have access to medications I need, and grateful for a clear path ahead for this next chapter.  https://www.formularywatch.com/view/the-va-replaces-humira-with-hadlima-on-national-formulary https://www.organon.com/news/samsung-bioepis-organon-announce-fda-acceptance-of-supplemental-biologics-license-application-sbla-for-interchangeability-designation-for-hadlima-adalimumab-bwwd-a-biosimilar-to-humira/ * * * * * Support the podcast ❤️ at https://www.crohnsfitnessfood.com Get your copy of Crohn's Fitness Food and My Rocky Road to Health, Shop my favorite products, Read my favorite books, Subscribe to the podcast, Send a little love/coffee

This week I am joined by comedian Zac Gish. We talk about his childhood shenanigan's, going to a smaller school to play college football, leaving football to chase comedy, a CRAZY strategy to get stage time, how he got to New York, and more.GREAT EX Drinking Buddy stories this week; Zac tells us the story about the "golf cart bandits", getting arrested a few times, dealing drugs to make ends meat, the Indy 500 Snake Pit, and so much more.Follow Zac on Instagram and check out his podcast "Uhhh with Zac"Find everything for me on LINKTREE

Like a dark and twisted Anne of Green Gables, this book was a welcome addition for me; and very well written for a debut novel. I was happily surprised at how much I related to the very odd and “unlikable” main character Ada Byrd. There was a great balance of late-Victorian references and modern sensibility, as well as a cozy atmosphere created by the diary style of the book. The ideas of intimate desire, reckless abuse and longing for friendship were so blurred at times, that there was a lovely sort of delirium created for the reader which mirrored the iceberg tip of the madness forming in Ada. Absolutely beautiful reading in Grey Dog, by Elliott Gish. I'd wanted to read this and was so pleased when ECW reached out with a review copy ~ thank you, Claire! While perusing catalogs of new books coming out Grey Dog caught my eye because of the contradictory nature of its cover. I was hoping that it would have something to do with sort of a body horror or some animalistic nature transformation and I wasn't exactly right although there is some sort of body horror... if you count the use of dead animals and a little skull within the story. The stark nature of what almost looks like a woodcut lent itself to the description of this book taking place in the 1900s so I caught a “botanical dark academia” flavour just from the illustration on the front. Much to my delight the author is from the East Coast and did find inspiration in Lucy Maud Montgomery and the Anne of Green Gables, so if you ever wanted that in horror form, this is one for you! This is the debut novel by Elliott Gish and I am looking forward to more. Pick up Grey Dog here https://amzn.to/3UgdlXe From the back cover copy: “The year is 1901, and Ada Byrd ― spinster, schoolmarm, amateur naturalist ― accepts a teaching post in isolated Lowry Bridge, grateful for the chance to re-establish herself where no one knows her secrets. She develops friendships with her neighbours, explores the woods with her students, and begins to see a future in this tiny farming community. Her past ― riddled with grief and shame ― has never seemed so far away...” ✮✮✮✮✮✮ ▹ Bookworm decor is here! https://shop.typicalbooks.com/▹ All socials, the shop and news: https://linktr.ee/LydiaPeever▹ Read books I wrote: https://amzn.to/3k20OY6▹ A list of horror books out each month: https://typicalbooks.com/newhorror▹ Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/shop/typicalbooks to shop local!▹ Music by ænorex: https://aenorex.com As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases when you use Amazon links here. If you prefer an alternative, try my Bookshop! Bookworm Central on Patreon ▹ https://www.patreon.com/typicalbooks I talk horror books; extreme horror, classic, slasher, gothic, and everything in between. Helping you find the next best horror book to read is the goal, and sharing new and old horror from my shelves and new releases is how! Horror, nonfiction and even true crime can be found here as I find that human beings are the scariest thing of all. ✮ Thank you! ✮

Shelley Sybil Gish has spent most of her life learning about the benefits of holistic healing, with fifty-plus years of experience in behavioral genetics, thirty-one years in alternative health modalities, and ten years in herbology. As the single mother of eight children and the proctor mother of many adjudicated youth, her journey into the world of health began as a necessity to care for her large family. Shelley has also worked in every area of the real estate industry throughout the past forty-five years and currently resides in Santa Clara, Utah.In addition to her eight children, she also has twenty-five grandchildren, sings in the Heritage Choir, and has been in senior pageantry since 2018 as Ms. Senior Utah, Ms. Senior Oregon, and Ms. Senior Canada.To learn more about "The Healing Herb," the holistic store that Shelley owns, visit magicstuff.biz .Kyle also discussed how to approach smart snacking.

Nick is joined by RTE and Racing TV broadcaster Jane Mangan to discuss the latest news from around the racing world. With 5 days to the Cheltenham Festival, Nick reports from last night's preview event on likely running plans for the Rich Ricci stars, while Jane provides commentary on the supplementary of Iberico Lord to the Champion Hurdle. Joseph O'Brien joins the show to talk Banbridge and more, David Maxwell tells us of his excitement at his Grand National purchase, and trainer George Scott explains why he could win the Triple Crown tomorrow. Following the Kieren O'Neill case and the Curtis Wilson-Ruddock controversy, BHA Integrity and Regulation Director Tim Naylor answers the questions. Meanwhile, Simon Sweeting introduces our new series, Overbury People.

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Nick is joined by RTE and Racing TV broadcaster Jane Mangan to discuss the latest news from around the racing world. With 5 days to the Cheltenham Festival, Nick reports from last night's preview event on likely running plans for the Rich Ricci stars, while Jane provides commentary on the supplementary of Iberico Lord to the Champion Hurdle. Joseph O'Brien joins the show to talk Banbridge and more, David Maxwell tells us of his excitement at his Grand National purchase, and trainer George Scott explains why he could win the Triple Crown tomorrow. Following the Kieren O'Neill case and the Curtis Wilson-Ruddock controversy, BHA Integrity and Regulation Director Tim Naylor answers the questions. Meanwhile, Simon Sweeting introduces our new series, Overbury People.

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John Gish, founder of Ursa Minor, explains how he got started in the business and walks the guys through his adventure-centric Jeep replacement tops while teasing what he has in store for Bronco owners. The guys discuss the best horsepower bargain on the market and Lightning is banned from certain things going forward. The Truck Show Podcast is proudly presented by Nissan, in association with Banks Power.

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Did you know that 23% of global emissions come from single family homes? Needless to say, this is a underserved segment and an industry that is ripe for innovation. Carl's current company, Aro Homes, is a purpose-driven company on a mission to redefine residential construction. The company was founded in 2021 and has raised $21M in funding from world-class investors including Eric Schmidt's Innovation Endeavors. In this episode of our podcast, we cover: * Why Carl has build a career with a focus on working on products that touch the lives of millions of people in a positive way. * A deep dive into Carl's professional history across lots of market leading companies including Unilever, Amazon, Dyson, eBay, Affirm, and other startups. * The environmental impact for single family housing and why the industry has lacked innovation. * All the details on Aro Homes and how they are disrupting this industry, including their emphasis on reducing waste and improving efficiency. * Advice for building a great consumer product. * And so much more. It's hard to believe that we have over 300 episodes of The VentureFizz Podcast. We have built up an amazing catalog of inspirational stories around building companies and every episode includes lots of great advice to follow, as well. If you haven't checked out our past interviews, go to venturefizz.com/podcast for the complete list. Oh, and one ask - please share The VentureFizz Podcast with your friends and colleagues in the industry. I appreciate your support

Welcome to episode 22 of the Tangle x Cast! We’re excited to share with you today an interview with actress Amanda Gish, the voice behind Witch (Goblin Slayer), Hop (Dragon Ball Super), Kinoko (My Hero Academia), and many more anime and gaming characters! In a roundtable setting, she talks to us about finding bonds through… Read More Tangle x Cast 22: Interview with Voice Actress, Amanda Gish

This is a segment of episode 349 of Last Born In The Wilderness, “We Want Them Infected: Contrarian Doctors & The Failed Quest For Herd Immunity w/ Jonathan Howard.” Listen to the full episode: https://www.lastborninthewilderness.com/episodes/jonathan-howard Learn more about and purchase We Want Them Infected: https://bit.ly/44JkRwy / https://a.co/d/6KrEc9A Jonathan Howard MD joins me to discuss his timely book, We Want Them Infected: How the Failed Quest for Herd Immunity Led Doctors to Embrace the Anti-Vaccine Movement and Blinded Americans to the Threat of COVID, published by Redhawk Publications. As much as Jonathan Howard's book is a scathing examination of how various very influential and contrarian doctors misled the US public about the coronavirus pandemic, it is also a historical document. By meticulously, carefully, and thoroughly quoting countless social media posts, statements, essays, op-eds, and interviews from certain highly accredited doctors, Dr. Howard compares their claims to actual reality as the virus began to rip through the population. Over and over again, these outspoken figures made bold and inaccurate claims that the pandemic was just about to end; herd immunity was just around the corner; the worst of the plague had already past; children were unaffected; and so on. Over and over again, these contrarian figures were proven wrong. And yet, despite overwhelming evidence, they still maintain their professional status and accreditation to this day, seemingly unhindered—professionally, at least—by the widespread consequences of their repeated false assumptions and claims. 

In this interview, Dr. Howard goes through the timeline of some of the claims made by these individuals, elucidating the origins of various bits of misinformation that persist up to the present. He describes what the Great Barrington Declaration is and its significance, and how the dubious public health recommendations relayed through it made its way into the highest echelons of US political and executive power. We discuss how this contrarian view of public health is informed by far-right libertarian philosophy, and how it is animated by a negative conception of liberty. And finally, we conclude by Dr. Howard sharing his views on the value, or lack thereof, of debate with individuals this book highlights and critiques, and how these media-trained, eloquent, and Gish galloping contrarian figures thrive in a media environment that allows their false claims to go largely unchallenged, and what that portends for our response to present and future public health emergencies. Dr. Jonathan Howard is an Associate Professor of Neurology and Psychiatry at NYU Langone Health and the Chief of Neurology at Bellevue Hospital. He is the author of Cognitive Errors and Diagnostic Mistakes: A Case-Based Guide to Critical Thinking in Medicine as well as several textbooks in neurology. He has been interested in vaccines long before the pandemic. WEBSITE: https://www.lastborninthewilderness.com PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/lastborninthewilderness DONATE: https://www.paypal.me/lastbornpodcast SUBSTACK: https://lastborninthewilderness.substack.com BOOK LIST: https://bookshop.org/shop/lastbornpodcast DROP ME A LINE: Call (208) 918-2837 or http://bit.ly/LBWfiledrop EVERYTHING ELSE: https://linktr.ee/patterns.of.behavior

Today we're publishing a debate about industrial policy between Noah and Mike Bird, the Asia business and finance editor at The Economist. Noah highlights the importance of steering the economy to ensure that industries align with national goals and priorities. Bird questions the effectiveness of industrial policy, especially in developed countries. He argues that market forces and competition should determine the allocation of resources, rather than government intervention. Where do you stand? If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/turpentine  -- Sponsors: GIVEWELL | DAFFY | NETSUITE  Have you ever wondered where your donation could have the most impact? GiveWell has now spent over 15 years researching charitable organizations and only directs funding to the highest impact opportunities they've found in global health and poverty alleviation. Make informed decisions about high-impact giving. If you've never donated through GiveWell before, you can have your donation matched up to $100 before the end of the year, or as long as matching funds last. To claim your match, go to givewell.org and pick “Podcast” and enter Econ 102 at checkout.  Daffy is the most modern and accessible donor-advised fund, making it easier to put money aside for charity. You can make your tax-deductible contributions all at once or set aside a little each week or month. And you don't just have to donate cash, you can easily contribute stocks, ETFs, or crypto. Plus, you never have to track receipts from your donations again. It's free to get started and Econ 102 listeners get $25 towards the charity of their choice. Daffy is offering Econ 102 listeners a free $25 for the charity of their choice when they join Daffy https://www.daffy.org/econ102  NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite http://netsuite.com/102 and download your own customized KPI checklist. -- Econ 102 is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.co -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST:  Every week investor and writer of the popular newsletter The Diff, Byrne Hobart, and co-host Erik Torenberg discuss today's major inflection points in technology, business, and markets – and help listeners build a diversified portfolio of trends and ideas for the future. Subscribe to “The Riff” with Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg: https://link.chtbl.com/theriff -- TIMESTAMPS:  (00:00) Episode Preview (01:23) How this debate came about (02:25) Why doesn't The Economist have bylines? (04:55) Chris Odendahl of The Economist's article saying the focus on manufacturing policy is a delusion (09:15) Is Korea the paragon of industrial policy? (11:20) Overlooking military spending and the chip industry (15:19) Industrial policy crucial for national security (17:42) Sponsor: NetSuite (18:45) Gish Gallop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop (19:14) Complexity of policy implementation (20:30) The exercise metaphor: multiple benefits (29:34) Subsidies may not ensure resilience (40:33) Balancing goals in geopolitics (43:40) Carbon pricing  (51:45) Manufacturing jobs (53:35) Leveraging local multipliers (agglomeration effects) (1:00:56) Industrial policy can have multiple benefits (1:03:02) Local multipliers benefit economic activity (1:09:24) Need for rigorous economic analysis (1:19:27) Determined optimism drives progress (1:20:05) Friend-shoring is often highly preferable to reshoring -- TWITTER: @birdyword (Mike) @noahpinion (Noah) @eriktorenberg (Erik)

Jonathan Howard MD joins me to discuss his timely book, 'We Want Them Infected: How the Failed Quest for Herd Immunity Led Doctors to Embrace the Anti-Vaccine Movement and Blinded Americans to the Threat of COVID', published by Redhawk Publications. As much as Jonathan Howard's book is a scathing examination of how various very influential and contrarian doctors misled the US public about the coronavirus pandemic, it is also a historical document. By meticulously, carefully, and thoroughly quoting countless social media posts, statements, essays, op-eds, and interviews from certain highly accredited doctors, Dr. Howard compares their claims to actual reality as the virus began to rip through the population. Over and over again, these outspoken figures made bold and inaccurate claims that the pandemic was just about to end; herd immunity was just around the corner; the worst of the plague had already past; children were unaffected; and so on. Over and over again, these contrarian figures were proven wrong. And yet, despite overwhelming evidence, they still maintain their professional status and accreditation to this day, seemingly unhindered—professionally, at least—by the widespread consequences of their repeated false assumptions and claims. In this interview, Dr. Howard goes through the timeline of some of the claims made by these individuals, elucidating the origins of various bits of misinformation that persist up to the present. He describes what the Great Barrington Declaration is and its significance, and how the dubious public health recommendations relayed through it made its way into the highest echelons of US political and executive power. We discuss how this contrarian view of public health is informed by far-right libertarian philosophy, and how it is animated by a negative conception of liberty. And finally, we conclude by Dr. Howard sharing his views on the value, or lack thereof, of debate with individuals this book highlights and critiques, and how these media-trained, eloquent, and Gish galloping contrarian figures thrive in a media environment that allows their false claims to go largely unchallenged, and what that portends for our response to present and future public health emergencies. Dr. Jonathan Howard is an Associate Professor of Neurology and Psychiatry at NYU Langone Health and the Chief of Neurology at Bellevue Hospital. He is the author of 'Cognitive Errors and Diagnostic Mistakes: A Case-Based Guide to Critical Thinking in Medicine' as well as several textbooks in neurology. He has been interested in vaccines long before the pandemic. Episode Notes: - Learn more about and purchase 'We Want Them Infected': https://bit.ly/44JkRwy / https://a.co/d/6KrEc9A - Learn more about and follow Dr. Howard and his work: https://www.jonathanhowardmd.com / https://twitter.com/19joho / https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward - Music produced by Epik The Dawn: https://epikbeats.net WEBSITE: https://www.lastborninthewilderness.com PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/lastborninthewilderness DONATE: https://www.paypal.me/lastbornpodcast SUBSTACK: https://lastborninthewilderness.substack.com BOOK LIST: https://bookshop.org/shop/lastbornpodcast DROP ME A LINE: Call (208) 918-2837 or http://bit.ly/LBWfiledrop EVERYTHING ELSE: https://linktr.ee/patterns.of.behavior

In this episode, Major Laura Quaco interviews Lieutenant Colonel Dane Horne and Major Allison Gish about their experiences serving as judge advocates in the United States Air Force, and more specifically, working in military justice and discipline capacities. Over the coming months, there will be two more episodes in this "JAGs on the Job" series--one episode will be focused on civil law and the other on operations and international law. ------------------------------------------------------------ Interested in learning more about the Air Force JAG Corps? Have questions about our programs or the application process? Please contact us at 1-800-JAG-USAF or af.jag.recruiting@us.af.mil. Don't forget to check out our website at airforce.com/jag.

On this episode I talked with James about when he first discovered his love for theatre, the first theatre show he ever saw, his favorite regional show he's been a part of and why, how going to Arizona State University helped him jumpstart his career, his decision to move to Nashville after college where he recorded an EP with a 53 piece orchestra, the National Tour of Les Miserables where he understudied Enjolras, playing a real life person, Gerry Goffin in Beautiful The Carole King Musical, making his Broadway debut as Fiyero in Wicked and how he made a role like Fiyero his role, plus Encores! NYCC's recent production of The Light In The Piazza that where he played Fabrizio, working Ruthie Ann Miles, and more!  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/backstagewithbeccab/support

A truly fascinating and emotional conversation with the great Edmund McMillen, creator of The Binding of Isaac, Super Meat Boy, Gish and many others. Edmund's story is one of hard work and dedication to his craft. Tales from the Golden Age of indie video games.Thank you for listening to our podcast all about videogames and the amazing people who bring them to life!Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron MarroquinFind us at www.thefourthcurtain.comCome join the conversation at https://discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfeVideos available at https://www.youtube.com/@thefourthcurtainFollow us on twitter: @fourthcurtainFeaturing the music track Liberation by 505Please consider supporting the show by pre-registering for our Season Two Kickstarter at www.thefourthcurtain.com/kickstarter

​​Li Sumpter:So welcome back to another episode of Future Memory. My guest today is Jesse Hagopian. He is a Seattle-based educator and the author of the upcoming Teach Truth: The Attack on Critical Race Theory and the Struggle for Antiracist Education. Hagopian is an organizer with the Zinn Education Project and co-editor of the books Black Lives Matter at School: An Uprising for Educational Justice and Teaching for Black Lives. Welcome, Jesse.Jesse Hagopian:Oh, thanks so much for having me. Good to be with you. Li:Thank you for joining us. Well, I want to get started with some questions about your own education and how you got started. I was curious about what your own early education and high school experiences were like. As a youth, what ways did you relate to or even resist to your own classroom curricula? Jesse:I was very alienated from school growing up. I felt like it didn't really speak to me. I didn't feel like I was intelligent. I can remember very clearly a parent-teacher conference in third grade where the teacher brought us out into the hallway with me and my mom, and she took out my standardized testing scores and there was a blue line that ran through the middle that was the average, and then there was the dot far below that line that represented my reading scores.And I knew from that day forward until about halfway through college, I knew that I was not smart, and I had the test scores to prove it to you. And school just felt like a place that reinforced over and over again that I was not worthy, that I was not intelligent. And there was very little that we studied that was about helping me understand myself, my identity, my place in the world as a Black, mixed-race kid.And really, it was just a fraught experience, and I took quite a bit to get over that. I was sure I was going to fail out of college, that I wasn't smart enough to go to college. And I think that it was finally the experience of a couple of professors in college that showed that education could be more than just eliminating wrong answer choices at faster rates than other children, that it could be about understanding the problems in our world and how we can collectively solve those problems.And then I realized I did have something to contribute. Then I realized that I did have some perspectives on what oppression looks like and how it feels and what we might need to do to get out of it, and I was hungry to learn about the systems that are set up in our society to reproduce inequality. And that was a real change for me. But growing up, my mom would tell me, "You're good with kids. I think you're going to be a teacher." And I said, "That's the last thing I'm going to be."Li:Oh, really?Jesse:School is just so arduous, and why would I want to come back? And then she was right. I came back to my own high school. I came back to Garfield High School, where I graduated, and I taught there for over a decade now. Li:I think that's an amazing story, coming full circle to teach back where you got your first experiences in the classroom. And going back to that, I was wondering if you had any standout memories, like I did, with the actual content. You were saying you didn't relate to it so much, but I remember very clearly a moment with my mother coming to the school when I had a moment in the classroom around Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, things like that. Do you have any standout memories of content that really either made you feel excluded or exploited or any of these things that really stuck with you? Jesse:For sure. I mean, there are many experiences that I think shaped my approach to education throughout the years. I mean, one of my firsts is from kindergarten. I remember very clearly one of the boys called me the N-word. And I didn't really know what it meant, but I knew it was directed at me and not the other kids. So I went and told the teacher, but there was parent-teacher conferences going on and parents were coming through, prospective parents, to look at the school, and the teacher got just beet red in front of the parents and was very embarrassed that I had said this, and said, "Oh, yeah. We'll deal with that," and just sort of pushed it aside and never came back to it.And the message that I got was that I had done something wrong, like I had disrupted the education process and that it was wrong for me to have done that because nothing was taken care of. And that's something that still sits with me and I think guides a lot of my approach to how to handle situations in the classroom. And I can remember the first time I had a Black teacher and that I began to learn about Black history in sixth grade, an incredible educator named Faith Davis, taught us about ancient Egypt. And it was the first thing I really got excited about learning, and I was amazed by all these accomplishments that Black people had done.And then after that class, it just sort of disappeared for a long time, and I never learned about anything else that Black people had done, and it made me wonder, "Is that why I score so poorly on these tests? Because I'm Black? Because I don't see other people like me in the advanced classes? And maybe those aren't for us. Maybe it has something to do innately with my race." And that's such a disempowering feeling, and I wanted to ensure that no other kids had to go through that kind of humiliation. Li:No, that's a great point that you bring up because I think we had similar experiences. I was actually recently going through some old photos at my mom's house, and I came across my elementary school class photo, the classic one, everyone's lined up, shortest to tallest kind of thing. And there I was, the only Black child in a class of 25 white students. And I think at that young, innocent age, I didn't really understand what I was up against, and today's youth and teachers are facing so many challenges in the classroom today, things that I don't think either of us could have really imagined.And so, as I was exploring the amazing tools and campaigns that you've been authoring and spearheading, like Teaching for Black Lives, Black Lives Matter at School, and the Zinn Education platform of so many resources, I think, "What would my early school experience have been like if these tools were available?" Right?And I'm wondering, would you have thought the same thing? Because when I think about these amazing tools that are being offered, I just imagine, and we're not even talking about the digital stuff. I'm just talking about the things around critical race theory, these ideas, just about things that are showing a representation of Black folks. Like you said, even just having a Black teacher and what that meant for you. So even thinking about, what if the tools that you are all creating today were actually in your classroom back at Garfield when you were youth? Jesse:Oh, wow. That would've been incredible. I mean, at the Zinn Education Project, we have scores of free downloadable people's history lessons that center Black history and struggles against structural racism. And these lessons tell history from the perspective of people who have been marginalized, who have been pushed out of the centers of power. We look at the founding of America from the perspective of those who have been enslaved, not those who were doing the enslaving. We look at American history through the eyes of those who are organizing multiracial struggles for racial and social justice, not the ones that are trying to maintain segregation and hoarding wealth in the hands of the few.And I would've just lit up to be able to have a teacher say that your family's history matters, that struggles that your family went through shaped this country, and whatever semblance of democracy that we're able to hold onto in this country is the result of the Black freedom struggle and the result of multiracial struggles for social justice. Instead, we got the message in American government class that democracy is something that's handed down from those in power and those on high.I can remember, at Garfield High School, my American government teacher assigned a research project, and I did a project about J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI director. And it was the only paper I think I ever really tried on in high school. I was very disengaged from school and didn't see any point in it, but this research project captured my imagination because I learned about some really despicable things that someone in power had done.I couldn't believe that J. Edgar Hoover had led a campaign against the Black freedom movement, had targeted Martin Luther King, someone who we're all supposed to revere, and yet our government was wiretapping and even trying to get him to commit suicide and some pretty despicable things. And I poured myself into the research and I wrote the best paper I had done up until that point, and she gave me a C with the notes that the claims I was making were unsubstantiated. Li:Wow. Jesse:And it's clear that she just didn't agree, that she didn't want to hear that a white man in power had misused it. And that was a strong message I got that some ideas are off-limits, and it doesn't matter how hard you work. If you go against what makes a white teacher comfortable, then there are consequences for that.And after that, I really didn't want to try anymore. I didn't feel like my opinions mattered, and I would've loved to have a teacher help me understand how we can live in a society that calls itself the freest nation on earth, and yet was based on enslavement of Black people and genocide of Native people, continued with Jim Crow segregation to where up through my dad's generation couldn't vote if you were Black.And then in our own generation, we have mass incarceration. And how is it that racism continues to change in focus and character, but is a constant in American society? And I wasn't able to learn that until much later, and I would've loved to have some of the resources that the Zinn Education Project provides today. Li:Yes, you and me both. Jesse:Yeah. Li:And that brings me to my next question about one of your ongoing campaigns is Black Lives Matter at School. And this year, the 2023 Creative Writing Challenge prompt was, "How can a school community support you in being unapologetically Black?" How might the young Jesse have answered that same question? Jesse:Wow. Well, the young Jesse would've been scared to answer that question. Li:Really? Say more. Jesse:I think that because I was so worried about what it meant to be Black and what that meant about my intelligence, that being unapologetically Black was very foreign for me for far too long. It was hard to come to loving my blackness, and it was a long road to get there. And I'm just so glad that the Black Lives Matter at School movement exists, because so many children like me who are scared to embrace their blackness because they're afraid that it could make them labeled as lesser, not as beautiful, not as deserving of love, not as deserving of care, and everything that all of our kids deserve.Now, these students are celebrated in our Week of Action that happens the first week of February every year, and also on our Year of Purpose. So every month, we're revisiting the principles of the Black Lives Matter Global Network and we're highlighting different aspects of the Black freedom struggle. And this would've been transformative in my life, helped me come to love my blackness much earlier. And I hope that for many thousands of kids across this country, they are having that experience. Li:I love that answer. Thank you. So Garfield High School in Seattle is where you actually attended school as a youth and were also a teacher for over a decade. It's the place where your role as an activist also took root. So history was made here, not just for you as an individual, but really locally and then nationally. So why do you think this was happening at Garfield? Why Garfield High School? And what's the culture and social climate of this school that made it such fertile ground to spark local protests and now national change? Jesse:Yeah. I love that question because I bleed purple and I'm a Bulldog to the core. Garfield is a special place to me, and I think the history of the school is a lot of the reason why it was a fertile ground recently for social change. Garfield High School is the school that the founder of the Seattle chapter of the Black Panther Party graduated from in 1968, Aaron Dixon. Li:Wow. Jesse:It's the site where Stokely Carmichael came to speak as the Black Power movement was rising. And before that, Martin Luther King came and spoke at Garfield High School in his only visit to Seattle. It's the heart of the Central District, which was the Black neighborhood in Seattle that was redlined so that Black people could only live in that area. And for that reason, it developed a culture of resistance, and it's an important part of the Black freedom struggle throughout Seattle's history.And I think that in recent years, we've been able to revive some of that legacy in some of the struggles we've participated in. In 2013, we had a historic boycott of the MAP test, the Measures of Academic Progress test. And this was one of the myriad of high-stakes standardized tests that the kids had to take, and studies show that the average student in K-12 education now take 113 standardized tests. We used to take one in elementary, one in middle school, maybe a couple in high school, and now they're taking standardized tests just constantly.And this was a particularly egregious test that wasn't aligned to our standards. And finally, one educator at Garfield, Mallory Clarke, said she wasn't going to administer this test anymore, and she contacted me and wanted to know if I could help, and we began organizing the entire faculty at Garfield. And we called a meeting in the library and we asked everybody, "Is anybody getting useful information out of this test that's helping them with creating their curriculum?" And nobody found this test useful.And then Mallory said she wasn't going to give the test anymore, and who would join her? And we took a vote, and it was unanimous. Everybody said they were going to refuse to administer the test. And so, we organized a press conference in Mr. Gish's room, and we invited the media to come learn why we were going to refuse to give the standardized test, and one of the reasons is because of the legacy of standardized testing based in eugenics. Right? Li:Mm-hmm. Jesse:Standardized testing was created by open white supremacists. A man named Carl Brigham created the SAT exam out of Princeton University, and he was also the author of a book called The Study in American Intelligence, which was one of the Bibles of the eugenics movement. And the book concludes by lamenting that American intelligence is on the decline because we have more Black people than Europe does, and he fears that intermixing of the races will degrade the intelligence of Americans. And so, he created the SAT exam as a gatekeeper.And lo and behold, these tests prove that white native-born men were smarter than everybody else. Right? Well, they designed the test to show that, and then they get the feedback that they were looking for, and that's why people like W.E.B. Du Bois, Horace Mann Bond were some of the first opponents of these bogus IQ standardized testings that started to be grafted onto the public schools at the behest of the eugenics movement.And we knew this history. I'd read Wayne Au's book, Unequal By Design, that explained the racist history of standardized testing, and then we saw it playing out in our own school. We saw how English language learners would get low scores and it would make them feel deficient and unintelligent. But it wasn't measuring their intelligence. It was just measuring their proximity to white dominant culture, the English language, and not their intelligence. And we had so many examples of the way these tests were abusing kids, and we refused to do it. And the school district threatened the faculty of Garfield High School with a 10-day suspension without pay for the tested subject teachers in reading and math, and even our testing coordinator refused to administer the test. Jesse:Kris McBride was an amazing advocate for the MAP test boycott. And even the first-year teachers, who didn't have any tenure protections, none of them backed down. And at the end of the school year, not only did they not suspend any of the teachers because of the overwhelming solidarity we received from thousands of educators and parents and students, not only around the country but around the world, who had heard about our boycott, at the end of the year, they actually suspended the test instead and got rid of the MAP test for all of Seattle's high schools, and it was just a resounding victory. Li:Yeah. That's a triumph. That's a triumph for sure. Jesse:Yeah. Right? Li:And I was watching some of the news coverage, and it was just, like you said, quite a victory to have that test obliterated, really, just removed completely from the system, and also then making way for this idea of multiple literacies and ways of learning that are more just and equitable for all students. And I love to see that, like you said, it begins just with one person. Shout out to Mallory and everyone who followed that one teacher. And like you said, that's all it takes, but then just to see the students really take lead in their own way was a beautiful thing. Jesse:Yeah. Yeah. It was cool that the students, when they knew we weren't going to administer the test, they sent administrators in to try to get the students to march them off to the computer labs to take the test, and some of them just staged to sit in in their own classroom, refused to get up and leave, and then the ones that went just clicked the button on the computer through very quickly so the score was invalidated.So the BSU supported us and the student government supported us, and it was an incredible solidarity that emerged in this struggle. And it wasn't about not wanting assessment. I think as you said, we wanted more authentic forms of assessment, ones that could actually help us understand what our students knew. And we started doing much more performance-based assessments. Li:Right. Jesse:When you get your PhD, they don't want you to eliminate wrong answer choices at faster rates. They want to know, can you think? Can you create? Li:Right. Are you a critical thinker? Jesse:Right. Yeah. Can you critically think? Can you make a thesis and back it up with evidence? And so, that's what we began doing. We wanted to have kids develop a thesis. And it might not be at the PhD level, but it'll be at a developmentally appropriate level for them, and then back it up with evidence and then present that evidence to the class or to other teachers and administrators and defend their position, and that, I think, was a real victory for all of our students for authentic assessment. Li:And went down at Garfield. Jesse:Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. Li:So another question I got for you. Part of the work of Monument Lab is to engage community in the current state of monuments and public memory in this country and beyond. Have you made any connections to this parallel movement to take down monuments that stand as symbols that continue to uphold oppressive systems and then honor the same false histories that you and your comrades are fighting in the classroom? Jesse:Yeah. Definitely. I think one of my favorite assignments I ever gave my students at Garfield was to research the debate over monuments around the country and think about, "How do we decide as a society who to honor, and who should be honored, and who shouldn't be?" And all the students got a big chunk of clay and they created their own monument to replace one that they thought was inappropriate. And so, many chose Confederate monuments or monuments to any slaveholders, including the hallowed Founding Fathers, that many of my students didn't hold in reverence given that they could have been owned by George Washington.And so, at the University of Washington, we have that statue of George Washington. Some people wanted to replace that with a statue of Aaron Dixon, who graduated from Garfield High School, founded the Black Panther Party, went to the University of Washington, and they felt far better represented our community as somebody who started the Free Breakfast Program in Seattle and who founded a free medical clinic that's still open to this day, just a few blocks away from Garfield High School, where many of our students receive free medical care to this day. Li:Oh, that's amazing. Jesse:So creating themselves some beautiful monuments to really honor the people that have made their lives better rather than just powerful people who imposed their will on our society. And I just think it was such an incredible moment in the 2020 uprising when all across the country, people said, "We are no longer going to honor slaveholders and perpetrators of genocide." It was incredible to see them dump the statue of Columbus into the Bay in Baltimore and teach the whole country a lesson, a history lesson about the genocidal attack of Columbus on Native people and how we need to find better heroes. Li:I like that. Find better heroes. You've dedicated a bunch of your recent efforts to resisting House Bills 1807 and 1886 introduced by state Republican Representative Jim Walsh. As you put it in your article that I read, these bills are designed to mandate educators lie to Washington students about structural racism and sexism, essentially forcing educators to teach a false, alternative history of the United States. Can you break down the basic proposals of these bills and their connection to, say, recent book bans, critical race theory, and resources like The 1619 Project? Jesse:For sure. Many people imagine that the attack on critical race theory is mostly in red states or it's just a product of the South. But instead, people should know that actually the attack on critical race theory originated from Christopher Rufo, who ran for city council in Seattle, and he is still a resident in Washington state, and that every state in the nation, except for California, has had a proposed bill that would require educators to lie to students about structural racism or sexism or heterosexism.And even in California, the one state that hasn't had a proposed bill, they have many local school districts that have one of these educational gag order policies in place that seek to coerce educators to lie to students about American history, about Black history, about queer history. And Washington state is one of the many states that has had proposed bills by Republican legislators that are trying to deceive students. They were so frightened of the 2020 uprising and all the questions that young people were asking about our deeply unequitable society that instead of working to try to eliminate that inequality, they just want to ban people from understanding where it comes from.So in my state, last year, they proposed House Bill 1886 that would make it illegal to teach about structural racism. And I found it deeply ironic that the House bill was numbered 1886, because that was the same year as a mob of white people in Seattle rounded up hundreds of Chinese people and forced them into wagons and hauled them to Seattle docks where they were placed on ships and illegally deported. And the chief of police helped this riotous white mob illegally, Police Chief William Murphy, and he never had faced any penalty for it. He was acquitted, even though this racist attack on Chinese people was carried out. Right?And our students have the right to learn about this. They should know that this happened in our city, and too many don't grow up learning the reality of that anti-Chinese attack. And then when hate crimes skyrocketed in our own era in the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, you saw hate crimes increase by several hundred percent against Asian Americans, and people wonder why. There's a long history of this Yellow Peril narrative in American society that has labeled Asian Americans and Chinese Americans as the other, as dangerous, as dirty, and our students need to learn about that if they're going to overcome those racial divisions today. Li:And what would the passing of these bills mean for the next generation of youth and their futures, and their education? What's the status of these bills now? Jesse:Well, thankfully, the bill in Washington state did not pass, but they are proliferating around the country. 18 states have already passed bills that seek to coerce educators into lying about structural racism, denying the fact that our country was built on structural racism, of enslavement of Black people, and genocide of Native people, and the exploitation of labor of immigrants, hyper-exploitation of Chinese labor on the railroads and Latinx labor in farms, and they want to hide this history.And you saw it in Florida when they banned the AP African American Studies course. In Virginia, they're trying to rework the state standards to hide the legacy of structural racism and the contributions of Black people, and they are trying to send us back to the era of the 1940s and '50s during the second Red Scare known as the McCarthy era. In the McCarthy era, hundreds of teachers, thousands of teachers around the country were fired after having been labeled communist.And then the Red Scare had the overlapping Lavender Scare, which was the attack on LGBTQ people, and that was especially intense against educators, and Florida had a particularly pernicious attack on queer educators. They had the Johns Committee there that would interrogate teachers about their sex lives and then fire them, remove their teaching certificate so they could never teach again. And this is what people like Governor Ron DeSantis in Florida are trying to revive with the Don't Say Gay bill that has outlawed any discussions of LGBTQ people for the younger grades, and also his so-called Stop W.O.K.E. Act that imposes anti-truth laws on Black history.And in Florida now, it is a third-degree felony for an educator to be caught with the wrong book about Black people or about queer people in their classroom. You can get five years in jail and a $5,000 fine for having the wrong book. Thousands of books are being banned all over the country, and they are rapidly trying to bring us back to that Red Scare, Lavender Scare era where they could just label you a communist or today label you a critical race theorist and push you out of the classroom.So we're at a crossroads right now, where everybody has to decide, "Are we going to build a multiracial struggle to create a true democracy? Or are we going to submit to this fearmongering and this racial hatred and allow them to turn back the clock?" And I hope that people will value social justice enough to join our struggle. Li:I'm just blown away by all the things you're saying, and it's really powerful because I come from a family of educators. Both my father and my mother are educators. My brother and myself are both educators. So I see it not as a job, but like a vocation. And it really sounds like you and the folks that you're in community with, in solidarity with in Seattle and beyond are really making amazing strides and asking such critical questions that could determine the future of our country. Jesse:No doubt. Li:For me and so many other educators, Paulo Freire's Pedagogy of the Oppressed and bell hooks' Teaching to Transgress were defining transformative works that greatly impacted my trajectory in the world. And I wanted to know, can you share what books or even creative works that inspired the path that got you where you are today? Jesse:Yeah. I love that question. Definitely those two books are at the top. Li:Oh, you like those books? Aren't they at the top? Jesse:I love those books. Yes. Li:I love them. Jesse:Yes. Li:I mean, and I'm sure you reread them because I'm always rereading those books. Jesse:Sure. Yes. I'm quoting them in the book I'm writing right now. So much of what I'm doing would not be possible without the theoretical framework that bell hooks gave us and that Paulo Freire gave us to understand how to use dialogic pedagogy to engage your students in a conversation, and educating isn't about filling their heads with what you know, the banking model of education, as Paulo Freire put it, right? Li:Right. Jesse:It's about learning from your students. Li:Right. That relationship between this... I learned so much from my students, especially now that I'm getting older. Jesse:Yeah. No doubt. Li:You got to stay in the know with the youth. Jesse:Hey, the students created the greatest lesson plan of my lifetime when they organized the uprising of 2020. That was mostly young BIPOC folks that organized that uprising and taught the nation what structural racism is and taught many of their teachers that they needed to learn something about it and they needed to begin teaching about it. Right? That's where this whole backlash to critical race theory started.And I think that all of us in the struggle would do well to join in study groups around books that can help deepen our understanding of history and theory that will help us in these struggles to come. There are so many books that I could cite that have been pivotal to my understanding of the struggle. I mean, working at the Zinn Education Project, Howard Zinn's People's History of the United States has been really important. Li:Yes. Jesse:So I think reframing who the subjects of history are and... Li:And the authors of history, right? Jesse:Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I think that Jarvis Givens book, Fugitive Pedagogy, should be read by all educators. Li:Yes. I'm familiar, very familiar with that project, and it is super inspiring. Yes. Jesse:Yeah. I mean, that book is just a key that unlocks the truth about why we're in the situation we're in right now, where they're trying to outlaw education. Li:And all the overlapping systems, because you talked about that, like these intersecting oppressions and overlapping systems of oppression that are really creating something that it feels like it's impenetrable, but people are making strides. Jesse:Yeah. No doubt. And I would just say that the book, Fugitive Pedagogy, just gives you that history of how Black education has always been a fugitive project. It's always been a challenge to the power structure. It's always been verboten. And starting in 1740 were the first anti-literacy laws in South Carolina banning Black people from learning to read and write.Li:How about that? Right. Jesse:Why was that? Because in 1739, the Stono Rebellion happened. A man named Jemmy helped lead an uprising of enslaved people, and he marched with a banner that read "Liberty" as they collected more enslaved people along the way during their uprising, and this terrified the enslavers. And they not only wanted to kill all the people that were trying to get their freedom, they wanted to kill the idea of freedom. They wanted to kill the ability of Black people to ever write the word liberty again.And so, they imposed these laws to ban Black people from learning to read and write. And today's racists aren't so bold as to ban the ability for people to learn to read and write, but they do want to ban the ability to read the world, as Paulo Freire put it. They don't want us to be racially literate. They don't want us to understand how systems of power and oppression are maintained. And so, they're banning ideas now in the classroom. And once you understand the long history of the attacks on Black education, you can understand why it's happening again today. Li:And even through the digital divide, right? This idea of being disconnected from these resources that are so much a part of education today that Black and brown communities don't always have really makes a difference in the education that they receive and how they learn as well. Jesse:No doubt. I mean, that was emphasized during the pandemic, right?Li:Exactly. So much was amplified during the pandemic, especially that digital divide. Jesse:No doubt. No doubt. Li:So, Jesse, I want to think about the future and speculate. In the best-case scenario, maybe a utopian future for education in the United States. Teachers often have to draft a wish list for what they want, the resources, the needs they have for their classrooms as the academic year comes around. So thinking about what you would want, the three essentials that would be on your wish list for the classroom of the future.Jesse:Yeah. I love this question, because too often, images of the future are all about dystopias. Those are the movies and books we get, and there's not enough freedom dreaming about what's possible. Li:I love that. Shout out to Robin D. Kelley. Jesse:No doubt. Another essential book to read. Li:Yes. Jesse:So I think in the classroom of the future that provides a liberatory education for our youth, the first thing I think we might see is the breakdown of subjects and getting rid of these artificial divisions between the different academic disciplines. And so, school would look very different. Instead of going to math class in the first period and then language arts and then social studies, you might have a class called Should Coal Trains be Used in Seattle? Right? They were just debating whether we should allow coal trains to come through our city.So it would be based on a real problem that exists in your society, and then you would use math and science and language arts and social studies to attack this problem. You would want to learn about the science of climate change and the math that helps you understand the changing climate. Right? We would want to learn the history of coal extraction in this country, the toll it's taken on working people who are minors and the toll it's taken on the environment.We would want to use language arts to write speeches, to deliver your opinion to the city council about this. So we would have problem-posing pedagogy, as Paulo Freire put it, where the courses would be organized around things that the kids care about that impact their lives, and then we would use the academic disciplines in service of that.I think in addition to that, my second requirement for this liberatory classroom would be about wraparound services, so that when kids come to school, they also get healthcare. They also get tutoring services, dental care, mental health care, food for their families. And schools could be really the hubs of community where people have their needs taken care of and are invested in to support not just the students, but their families as well.And lastly, I think schools would be flooded with resources, so that instead of wasting trillions of dollars on the Pentagon so that the United States can go bomb countries all over the world and kill children and their families, we would take that money and flood it into the school system so that kids have all the state-of-the-art resources they need, from the digital equipment, recording equipment, music, art supplies, to funding the school nurse, to the auditoriums, and the music halls. I mean, you can imagine that the richest country on earth could have incredible resources for their kids if we valued education, if we valued our young people.Instead, so many schools in America today are falling apart. The first school I ever taught in in Washington, D.C., an elementary school, I had a hole in the ceiling of my classroom, and it just rained into my classroom and destroyed the first project that I ever assigned the students, their research project, and they never even got to present the projects. Li:No way. Jesse:And our kids deserve better than that. Li:Oh, they definitely deserve better than that. Right? Oh my gosh. Jesse:We're in a society where 81 billionaires have the same amount of wealth as the bottom half of humanity, and that wealth divide means that our kids go to schools that are falling apart, and we would transform that in a future society that's worthy of our kids. Li:Most definitely. And if I can, I wanted to add a fourth thing, because I remember something you said about performance-based assessment. Jesse:Oh, yeah. Li:And I think that would- Jesse:I should put that in. Li:... definitely be essential, right? Make sure you get that one in. But last but not least, my final question to you is, what's next for Zinn Education? And more specifically, what is next for Jesse Hagopian? Jesse:Oh, thank you. Well, I'm really excited about the June 10th National Day of Action. The Zinn Education Project has partnered with Black Lives Matter at School and the African American Policy Forum to organize the Teach Truth Day of Action on June 10th, and I hope everybody will join us on that day of action in organizing an event in your community. This is the third annual Teach Truth Day of Action, and the past ones have been incredible.People have organized historical walking tours in their community to highlight examples of the Black freedom struggle and sites that were important in the Black freedom struggle in their own communities or sites of oppression and racial injustice that students have the right to learn about in their own communities. Some people went to sites where Japanese people were rounded up and incarcerated during World War II. Some people in Memphis, Tennessee went to a site right on their school grounds where there was a race riot and many Black people were killed.In Seattle, we went by the clinic that the Black Panther Party started and gave that history and highlighted how, if the bill passed to deny teachers the right to teach about structural racism, we couldn't even teach about the origins of the health clinic in our own community. And so, there'll be many creative protests that happen on June 10th, 2023, and I'm excited to say we have more cosponsors than ever before.The National Education Association is supporting now, and many other grassroots organizations from across the country. So I expect hundreds of teachers and educators will turn out to protest these anti-truth laws, and I'll be right there with them all helping to organize it and learning from the educators and organizers, who are putting these events on, and hopefully helping to tell their story in the new book that I hope to be finishing very soon about this- Li:You're going to finish it. You're going to finish. This month, man. Jesse:Thank you. Li:This is your month. Jesse:I need that encouragement. Li:You got this. Jesse:I hope I finish it on this month. Li:Believe me. When I was so close to finishing my dissertation, everyone kept asking me, "Are you done yet? Are you done yet?" So I know, because I could see you cringe when I asked you that in the beginning. All I can say is, look, I mean, I'm just so grateful to have this conversation with you today. Thank you for joining me. And I also got to say, I'm sorry to say, Jesse, your mother was right. I think this was your calling. I think this might have been what you were set on this planet to do. Jesse:It feels that way now. Thank you so much. Li:Yes, indeed. So this is Monument Lab, Future Memory. Thank you to my guest, Jesse Hagopian. Jesse:Hey, I really appreciate you having me on. I just felt your warm spirit come across and brighten my day. Really great to be with you. Li:My pleasure. 

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