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September 11, 2001, changed Bob Ellis's life, just as it changed mine. Bob was working at the Pentagon that morning and had walked out of the building only minutes before Flight 77 struck the area where his meeting had taken place. You will hear how he immediately became part of the response, helping organize emergency supplies and support for those working at the Pentagon. We also compare our experiences from two different locations that day, Bob at the Pentagon and me at the World Trade Center with my guide dog Roselle. Twenty-five years later, our conversation is about more than remembering 9/11. It is about leadership, teamwork, service, controlling fear, and deciding what we do with the life we have been given. I believe Bob's story offers lessons we can all use when the unexpected happens. Highlights: 05:29-Bob shares how his early life and military support career shaped his path. 23:53-He recalls realizing the first World Trade Center strike was not an accident. 32:59-Bob describes being just 300 yards away when the Pentagon was hit. 37:00-He explains how he helped organize emergency relief supplies within hours. 1:03:54-Michael reflects on survival, fear, and the responsibility to move forward. 1:06:55-Bob shares the lasting life lessons he took from September 11. About the Guest: Bob Ellis is the Vice President, American Logistics Association responsible for Exchange, MWR, Food Service Operations. The native of Fort Walton Beach, Florida began his career with AAFES in 1972. From 1972 through 1984, he held retail management positions as a Branch Manager, and Operations Manager Main Store. In 1985, Ellis began a string of assignments as an Exchange General Manager trainee at Fort Belvoir, VA, and Exchange General Manager, Fort Hamilton, NY and Carlisle Barrack PA, (Army War College). Assignments as Area Retail Manager and General Manager at the former Japan Area Exchange ran from 1989-1992. In 1992, Ellis was transferred to Travis AFB in California as Retail Manager, Main Store. In 1994, Ellis was selected for the General Manager's position at Travis and spent three years assisting in the design and new construction effort of the largest retail Main Store ever constructed by AAFES. From 1997 to 2002, Ellis held the position of Director of AAFES' Washington Office, serving as the principal representative of the Commander, AAFES to the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Departments of the Army and the Air Force, Congressional offices and industry representatives. Notable among his accomplishments, Ellis was instrumental in spearheading AAFES support to the Pentagon after the attacks of September 11th. Within 48 hours of the event, AAFES established a mobile exchange in the shadow of the impact site to support rescue workers and investigators with critical need and personal comfort items. After Washington, Ellis moved to AAFES Headquarters' in Dallas to assume the Vice President Specialty and Consumables position. In this role, Ellis was responsible for the SD-C Category Team Managers/Buyers. In August 2003, Ellis took his a position as Vice President of Corporate Planning and Communications where he managed the development of AAFES long range and contingency planning programs, oversight of corporate public affairs and ensured compliance with Department of Defense policy guidance with the goal of preserving and protecting the exchange benefit for soldiers and airmen and their families around the globe. Bob joined the ALA on 31 July 2006 where he continues to serve a role in military resale supporting Exchange, MWR, and Food Service, operations still serving military resale over 51 years continuous service. Ways to connect with Bob**:** You can find more benefits how Branded Riches can help you build your Brand, Product, Business, and Yourself at https://www.BrandedRiches.com   Connect:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/neryk-davydov Branded Riches Audiobook by Neryk Davydov https://www.audible.com/pd/Branded-Riches-Audiobook/B0GCP9MMRB Branded Riches Book https://www.amazon.com/Branded-Riches-Increase-Income-Irresistible/dp/1987753836 $5 Free Gift for Creating A New Ovato Wallet    www.ovatoCoin.com  About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? 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We're going to help commemorate the historic events of September 11, 2001. Yes, they're definitely historic, although not necessarily the most positive things that have ever happened. But as many of you may know, I was in the World Trade Center working on September 11, 2001, on the 78th floor of Tower One, and escaped with my guide dog. I've delivered a speech about that, which we put in the first episode of this podcast series back in August of 2021. But this Friday, episode 472 is going to have an updated speech that I delivered just a few years ago at the Marshfield, Missouri Cherry Blossom Festival. That festival is a yearly event celebrating different kinds of things that have happened in American history, and I was invited to come and speak, which I did. I'm going to put that speech up for you as episode 472. I think you'll find it enlightening. It'll teach you something about blindness and blind people. It'll tell you my story, and it'll give you some inspiration that I hope you will find helpful. Next Tuesday, september 8, Michelle Abraham is going to interview me. Michelle is with Amplify You, the company that does all of our back office stuff and helps me with the editing and other things regarding the podcast. Michelle owns her own podcast, and she is going to interview me about September 11th and other kinds of things relating to what I've learned and things that have happened over the past 25 years. She's also going to be putting this up on her podcast Amplify You, so you can find us in a lot of different places. On September 11th, I'm going to chat with Bob Ellis. Bob was in the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, and had literally just walked out the door of the Pentagon when the plane crashed into the Pentagon and did the things and the damage that it did, and of course generated all the things that occurred at the Pentagon. On the 15th of September, I'm going to come back and have a conversation with all of you about lessons that I've learned over the past 25 years, and just reminisce a little bit about all of that. While the podcast is occurring on September 11th, I will be actually in Kilgore, Texas, doing a speech about September 11th. So lots of things going on, I hope you listen to these episodes. I hope that you'll tell everyone that you can about them. I really enjoy all of the support that you've given us over the years, and we're going to continue to do things with Unstoppable Mindset. And of course, as always, if you'd like to come on or know anyone who would, please let us know. We're always looking for guests. Thanks very much. We'll see you on Friday with the first of these four episodes. What if the biggest thing holding you back isn't what's in front of you, but rather what you believe? Welcome to Unstoppable Mindset, where inclusion, diversity, and the unexpected meet. I'm your host, Michael Hingston, speaker, author, and advocate for inclusion and possibilities. This podcast explores how the beliefs we carry shape the way we live, lead, and connect with others. Each week, I talk with people who challenge assumptions, face adversity head-on, and show what's possible when we choose curiosity over fear. Together, we focus on mindset, resilience, and the small shifts that lead to meaningful change. Let's get started. Hi everyone, and welcome to another episode of Unstoppable Mindset. You are listening to us today, or at least I'm assuming you're listening just when this came out. But whenever you're listening, it is today, September 11th, 2026, which is needless to say, a special day. If you have kept up with my podcast from the beginning, you know that I worked in the World Trade Center on September 11th, and ever since then I've been a public speaker, traveling the world, talking about trust, teamwork, leadership, the human-animal bond, and a variety of things. But recently, I met Bob Ellis. Michael Hingson  04:40 Now, Bob, as it turns out, on September 11th worked at the Pentagon, and I have not ever really had the opportunity to talk with someone who was at the Pentagon, especially on September 11th. But we get to chat about that today, and Bob knows our rules, which are basically. He sent me a series of questions that he wants to cover, but we are doing this as a conversation, so we'll probably talk about a lot of the things that he specifically sent. But we can go any old way that Bob wants to go, so that's what we'll we'll make this really fun. And I'm really looking forward to having the opportunity to talk with Bob. So again, welcome to September 11th, and Bob, I want to welcome you to Unstoppable Mindset. We're really glad you're here, Bob Ellis  05:28 Michael. Thank you for inviting me. I know you you've inquired several times, and I've debated it, and and I was just holding it for the right time, and this is the right time-the 25th anniversary of the event. Michael Hingson  05:40 Yeah, it is, and and and as as we've said, if you find anybody who needs a a speaker to come in and speak, let me know. But but for now, we get to chat about you and and hear your story, which I think is the important thing. I think we'll probably talk about both of our stories in the course of the day, no doubt about it. But I really am glad that you are here and that you are able to to talk with us today and and and talk about things. So let's start the way I love to start with people. Let's start at the beginning. Tell me kind of about the early Bob growing up and so on. Let's start with that. Bob Ellis  06:17 Well, I I grew up in let's say grew up until I was four years old. I lived. I was born in Pensacola, Florida. Lived in the Panhandle. Mother and father got divorced, and we moved to Norfolk, Virginia. And it was just my my mother and I until I was 14 years old. And I found out about my dad and found some letters from him and insisted to go see him. And so, between 14 and 15, I made a couple of unauthorized attempts to to make my way to Florida. On the third attempt, I made it, and it was quite a surprise for my father. Ended up living with him and being my closest friend up until I had he had grandkids, we had kids, and so I lived and grew up in the Destin, Fort Worth, Fort Walton area. Went to work, and this is where the story begins. I went to work at Eglin Air Force Base as a as a janitor in a gas station for the Army Air Force Exchange Service, so that I could continue to play high school football and practice, was a great job. It was an opportunity to work with the military, be around the military, and I took great pride in that feeling that that that that while I I wanted to go into the air force and I wanted to fly jets, that opportunity just never presented itself because the Vietnam War was going on and they were banking pilots instead of taking pilots. Anyway, I I ended up staying with the Army Air Force Exchange Service for 34 years. I moved all over the world. I've seen the every AOR and every combat scenario since the Vietnam War. Not in the Vietnam War, but I was in the refugee program, helping with the resettlement back in 1972, 1973. Spent the rest of my career going wherever they sent me, and and and that was from Tokyo, Japan, to to Tuli, Greenland, to California, and ultimately to to Texas. Michael Hingson  08:30 I remember during the Vietnam War, someone called me one day. I was a student at UC Irvine, and there was a refugee camp fairly close to the university, and someone said, and someone said, "There's a blind young man at the sent at the refugee center, and we should go see him. And so we we bought a transistor radio for him and went out to visit with him and spent some time with him, and I never got to see him after that. But I hope I hope he did well. He he seemed like he was doing okay, but he was a little bit lost, needless to say, because it's a whole bunch of people. There are no a lot of people who knew much about blindness and blind people, but I would presume he did reasonably okay. I hope so, but that was the only time I specifically had an involvement with him or anyone at the refugee camps. Later, when I met my wife Karen, she lived, I think, a door down, and she and her parents lived a door down from a Vietnamese couple, and he was a tailor and actually made her wedding dress, which was kind of cool, and so we got to spend a fair amount of time with the Voo's, which was was good, but what's. Interesting for me now, with with now being well so many years later. In November, I will be going to do a speech in Hanoi, so I'm really looking forward to to going over there and and experiencing it. At least it'll be a little bit cooler then than it probably is now. So we'll see, but it'll be it'll be pretty enjoyable to go and again see a different a different part of the world, and I I think we'll be fine. At least that's that's that's the plan. Bob Ellis  10:34 That that that that tour that I had at Eglin Air Force Base with the refugees, will come back to to to 911 2001 and the experiences that I had at that refugee camp replicated in the Pentagon park and lot there in 911. So we'll get to that. I'll explain it further. Michael Hingson  10:56 Yeah, I'm sure it was a a great a great lesson. Where did you do college, or did you Bob Ellis  11:03 went to went to Duke University and the University and the University of Maryland? Michael Hingson  11:10 Okay. Well, at Bob Ellis  11:12 least much of it was correspondence as well, only because I was deployed for for so many years back to back, 17 moves in 34 years. Michael Hingson  11:22 Wow, Duke University. At least you didn't go to one of those other schools in North Carolina. Boy, talk about talk about rivalries and basketball. What a what a group down there. Bob Ellis  11:35 Oh, I know, I know. Michael Hingson  11:38 I once spoke in Kentucky, and the Wildcats were in the NCAA championship that year, and I was asked to speak at an event on the night of the championship. But I was told I had to end by 630. I could not go one second past 630 because the gym I was speaking in was going to clear out. Well, I ended in time so that at 630, what they said was absolutely true. That gym cleared out. Everybody went home to watch the game. Bob Ellis  12:09 That's that's sports. Michael Hingson  12:11 Not sports. It is, but it's okay. I I learned a lot down there and got to meet a number of people, and so it was it was a lot of fun to to do it, and then years later I was in North Carolina when NC State and UNC were playing to see who was going to go into the championship. So again, pretty interesting world, and and sports ruled everything then, so it's okay. It Bob Ellis  12:43 hasn't it hasn't changed at all because my my my daughter I got her graduate studies done at NC State, and it hasn't changed a bit. It's just I'll bet it's just crazy as it's when was 20 3040 years ago, Michael Hingson  12:58 and it shall ever be, won't it? Bob Ellis  13:01 Yeah, yeah. Her undergraduate degree was at University of Texas. This was my son's, and she went on to NC State, and and he went on to medical school in in Houston. Michael Hingson  13:16 Okay. Well, UC Irvine, when I was there, had the championship water polo team, but that's what we had. But they started basketball while I was there, although it wasn't anything huge. But a couple of years ago, they made it to the Sweet 16, and that was kind of fun for UC Irvine. One of these days, it'll go all the way. Bob Ellis  13:40 Yep. Michael Hingson  13:41 Well, anyway, so you you went to college, and and what did you major in? Bob Ellis  13:45 Political science. Michael Hingson  13:47 Okay, political science Bob Ellis  13:48 and business management. With a with my two aspirations, I wanted to. I really wanted to major in in aviation science, but that that wasn't offered. So that's political science and business science, business law. Michael Hingson  14:06 But you were working for the Army Air Force Exchange Service. What is that exactly? Bob Ellis  14:11 Yeah, it's a it's it's it's a non-appropriated funded Service provided all goods. I think of it as the the Walmart or the Target of of the civilian sector, except the Army Air Force Exchange Service has stored everything from stores, every business that you can think of therein, from stores to convenience stores to gas stations to beauty shops and barber shops to dining facilities, franchise Burger Kings, anything that a soldier and his family needs at the base or overseas or in the combat arena, where we were there with it, providing it. It's been a great career. Michael Hingson  14:59 Did you? Do you have any involvement with, especially here in the U.S. the the Randolph Sheppard programs, the blind vending stand operations at any of the facilities? Bob Ellis  15:09 Yep, sure did many many times. We're still working with it. There's there's some issues present right now under the Randolph Shepherd that they're looking at. I don't know what what's going to change, but yes, sir, we were very, very close to that. Michael Hingson  15:24 Yeah, I know there. The current government's looking at it; they want to scale a lot of it back, which would, I think, not be a good thing. I think there's a lot of reasons to keep it, but we'll see. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. But I, the closest I ever came to dealing with anything from AAES was I was invited to speak once at an organizational meeting of the National Property Managers Association in the military. Are you familiar with that? Bob Ellis  15:56 I am. Yes. Michael Hingson  15:57 And when I was asked to come, the Speakers Bureau didn't do a good research job because they told me, "Oh, it's the people who rent apartments and all that. When I got down to the to the event, I will say that the National Property Managers Association certainly serves a nice breakfast. But anyway, the conversation just didn't seem like what I what I was expecting. So I asked somebody, and they told me that the organization was the organization that had complete jurisdiction over anything physical that the government owned, and Bob Ellis  16:30 absolutely Michael Hingson  16:31 that that changed my grass. Sorry, Bob Ellis  16:34 right down to the grass, right down to the grass and the concrete. Michael Hingson  16:37 There you go. Well, it also changed my speech in 10 minutes, but it was fun. They invited me back the next year, so that was good. But it's it's fun when you're you're planning to do a particular speech, and suddenly it turns out it's got to change. It's good to have the flexibility to do that. But I'm I'm glad I had the opportunity to do it, and hopefully we'll have opportunities to do it again, but you have served a lot of different kinds of of services within AAES, and and I assume that's all worked out pretty well. Bob Ellis  17:14 That that worked out very well. Yep, I had I started at the bottom and and climbed as close to the top as I possibly could, but Michael Hingson  17:23 you eventually got the the highest medal that was available for civilians when you retired or after you retired. Bob Ellis  17:31 No, the highest award that I ever received was from my man over the Pentagon 911 support program, which was a nice medoris civilian award. Michael Hingson  17:46 Okay, where is your favorite place to live in the world? Or is that really easy to say? I mean, you've been all over the place and seen a lot of different kinds of places. Don't know how much you got to two of them, but anyway, Bob Ellis  18:00 it wasn't the two places that I that I went overseas, which was Japan and Greenland. Those were the longest tours of my life. Beautiful country in Japan, and and great facilities and support in tuning Greenland. But I would I would guess throughout the United States, I had a great assignment at the Army War College, and I had a great assignment at Travis Air Force Base here in Michael Hingson  18:26 California. Yeah, Bob Ellis  18:28 yeah. Michael Hingson  18:30 I've spoken. Bob Ellis  18:30 My son was born in Japan. He's dual citizen as a result on the Air Force Base, and my daughter was born in California. So it was a great time, mainly because the kids were younger and and and and we were in great climate areas. Michael Hingson  18:48 When people ask me what my favorite place in the United States is, I say everywhere. I I just enjoy meeting people wherever I go in the U.S. It's so many different cultures and customs and ways of doing things. It is so fun to to see all the different places and see how they are. People ask what I like, where I like outside the U.S. And so far, it's been New Zealand. I would say is probably the best, but Japan has to be up there too. I've really enjoyed being in Japan. I've been there a couple times, and I thoroughly enjoyed Bob Ellis  19:23 it. I, I had, I think the most the the greatest thing about the assignments was some of the people I I got to to meet in in my in my tours. One of them would be the Crown Prince of of Thailand, who who is now the king of Thailand, King Rama, got to meet him when he was a pilot, and supported him when when I was at Yokota Air Base, and multiple other celebrities. I I had the opportunity as a kid to attend the funeral. For Douglas MacArthur, and and his his memorial was right across the street in North Virginia from where my mother worked. And 20 years later, I had the opportunity to to meet mrs. Mcarthur, Jean MacArthur, at Gracie Mansion in New York, and I I I wrote protocol. I when it came time for her to to meet me and meet meet her, I got down on one knee and I held her hand and I said, "I want to tell you a little story, ma'am. And she said, "Well, certainly, absolutely. And I told her the story how when the general had died in in 1964, I was required by my my mother to go to the funeral, and the most fascinating person I'd ever seen in my life was herself, and she just got she just turned red. Well, long story short, I was at an army command at Fort Hamilton. The next day, the the group the the installation commander called me over to his office, very angry, but he wanted me to know that I was going to be the first civilian aide for the old lady, which was mrs. Mcarthur, and he had to take one of his lieutenants off. And I got to know the family and and the Mcarthurs as a result of that. So lots of opportunities, just absolutely amazing. 911, and we'll get to it. I got to meet President Bush momentarily, but I I got to meet him and have a short conversation. Michael Hingson  21:32 I got to meet him in 2005. We went to the Oval Office, and we were supposed to have a two minute photo op, but he kept wanting to interact. We ended up talking for about 15 minutes. He kept the Italian ambassador or prime minister waiting, but it was a was a great conversation. I very much enjoyed having the opportunity to meet with him. Bob Ellis  21:53 Yeah, he was remarkable. Michael Hingson  21:54 Yeah, in in so many ways. If Speaker 1  22:00 you enjoy Unstoppable Mindset and would like to help us continue bringing these conversations to you each week, we've created a way for you to support the show. Your contribution helps us cover production costs and continue sharing stories, insights, and ideas that inspire people to live with purpose and possibility. If supporting the podcast feels right for you, you'll find the link in the show notes. Thank you for being part of the Unstoppable Mindset Community. Michael Hingson  22:33 So that's that's pretty cool. So as you were going around to all these different places, what would you say you were learning. Bob Ellis  22:41 I was learning business. I was learning relationships. I was learning marketing. Pretty much anything that you wanted to do as a general manager or a vice president, the exchanges let you do it. You know, until you got too far gone, and they they reel you back in. But I love being able to run multiple businesses on the installation, and and be accountable for them, and run them at a profit, and and at the end of the day, do great things for military families. Michael Hingson  23:16 Wow! So you um, you you've you've had a lot of challenges and and had to learn a lot of different things. Needless to say, but I would would think that you've you've been able to to keep a lot of that and use it. And you know we've referred to September 11 th, and so let's let's get to around that time. The first thing I would ask, and people have asked me, but you're in a better position in theory than I. Did you have any inkling that something like September 11th was going to happen? Bob Ellis  23:53 Well, actually, September 11th was was happening. I left for work about 4:30 in the morning. I lived out in the suburbs in Centerville, Virginia, and it was one of those days that you just wished you didn't have to go to work. It was the as the sun was coming up, it had a little cold breeze to it. The skies were blue. It was just one of those days that you just wanted to sit out in the yard and and relax or go bicycling, whatever. But I did my duty and I drove in to the Washington D.C. area and reported to my office on time, which was right around 5o'clock. My staff showed up around six and some at seven, and my secretary came in, and I don't know exactly what time it was, but it was shortly after, right around 9o'clock in Eastern Time, when the first airplane had hit the the trade center. Michael Hingson  24:49 Yeah, Bob Ellis  24:49 846-940-6846, Yes, right, 846. Yeah, and and so I I went in to look at the. The the television monitor standing there it was just her and I at the time and and and I said that's not an accident and she says how do you know that I said look at the skies that was an airliner they were talking about it was a little small private aviation well I'm a pilot I've been a pilot for 40 years 41 years I knew exactly, you know, that that where it was, what it was doing, and that wasn't a it wasn't an accident. And and my inkling was is that I was in a in rented space in Arlington, Virginia, because we had been moved out because the wedge that got attacked was the one that was still under construction. My office had not been completed there, and and I had a meeting in that wedge at 9o'clock that morning. And my secretary said to me, "You know, Bob, the Pentagon is next. And I paused for a minute and I looked at her and I said, "How in the world could you even imagine that, you know that that that's a fortress? Who would be crazy enough to attack the Pentagon? And she says, I I just I don't want you to go over, you know, just just just do it by phone, which I I probably could have done. And I said, No, I'm I'm going to go over there. If they're going if they're going to attack the Pentagon, I'm going to go down with it, and that was kind of my philosophy. So, in the back of my mind, seeing that airplane hit the Trade Center and her telling me that certainly made me wonder if it wasn't a possibility. Michael Hingson  26:33 So, you didn't. You don't think that anyone, and I've never heard of any such, but that anyone had any advance notice? There wasn't chatter. There wasn't anything that made people suspect what might be getting ready to happen. Bob Ellis  26:47 No, I I I think that is the the worst our country has ever been off guard. It reminds me of you know the the attack on Hawaii and that you know in in Pearl Harbor. We were completely unprepared, and I thought we were completely unprepared on 911. And in fact, after the attack, I knew we were unprepared when I saw the two jets fly over with no armament on the wings. So no, I don't think anybody had any idea. Michael Hingson  27:18 Well, the other side of it, and I've talked about this in in some talks I've given. I talk a lot about trust and teamwork, and like it or not, one of the things that I observe is you had 19 terrorists who functioned well enough as a team that they didn't talk about it. They didn't let anything come out. So no matter how much armament or whatever we might have had, I'm not sure whether we could have predicted that on September 11th, what occurred was going to happen. Bob Ellis  27:49 You know, all the indicators were there. You know, those those 19 trained at private airports, and they and during their training, it was it was reported multiple times that all they were interested in was taking off, not landing. I mean, first clue, you know. Okay. Why would you just be interested? He's taking off an airplane, and and I always found that very curious, and I'd heard it several times. That should have set alarm bells off. Should have. It didn't. Apparently, it did. Michael Hingson  28:20 Good point, and you know the the thing is though that, as as you pointed out, who would have thought that anybody would attack the Pentagon, the fortress that it was? Who Bob Ellis  28:33 yeah, Michael Hingson  28:33 who would have thought? So again, you can only go by what you got, and so nobody, I think, would have ever imagined that. Well, of course, the first plane hit the World Trade Center, and at first, people didn't really know what happened because there were really not very many people who who saw it. In fact, we only have the few photos that were taken by the French photographers who were there for something else, but then a little after nine, the second plane hit, and that changed the dynamic and changed the perspective a lot. Although a bunch of people who started seeing it on TV thought it was just a movie, and it wasn't true, but the second plane hitting changed the attitudes. I think for most people, and that's when people knew something was going on. Bob Ellis  29:24 Yeah, I didn't know anything about the second trade center. I had left my office in Crystal City, and I had headed to the Pentagon. And the meeting, the meeting that I had was with the Army Personnel Chief and several other folks. And as it turned out, that is exactly the window that the airplane flew into. That was ground zero for the for the for the target for the airplane going in just above the first floor for the Pentagon. So I didn't know anything. I was I was trapped at that point. I was trapped. Couldn't go um. Wouldn't go um. Didn't want to go um. And I had lived in New York City for five years, and I was my biggest. I was always impressed by the New York City Fire Department. I mean, they're they're just walking heroes if you've ever seen them. I mean, they were like they were like giants when you got next to them, and that they would they were just superhumans. And I always wondered upon the top floors how in the world you would get a fire put out at the top of the World Trade Center, and and I did not know until two days later when I made it home. That was my first question to my family: How did they get the the fire out at the top of the World Trade Center? And I and and it was repeated to me centers, and I said, What are you talking about? Centers in my family, and they said, "Bob, the World Trade Centers are gone. I said, "I don't understand. How could they be gone? And that was that. That was you know two days later that I found out about that. It was quite a shock to me to learn what it actually while I was on on the Pentagon mission. Michael Hingson  30:58 Well, when the first plane hit. Well, in the second plane, the firefighters were going up the stairs carrying all their equipment, and I had had had known about that and asked people, "Well, why are you or would you be carrying equipment? Because I met I I didn't meet the FDNY people ahead of the World Trade Center attacks, but I did meet with other people to learn about emergency preparedness and so on because I felt as the leader of an office, it was my job to know because I wasn't going to be able to read signs, and I love information, so I was trying to learn all I could, and they told me that where would if you if you had equipment stored in the in the towers, then people would go to it. Firefighters would go to it and get the the equipment. What floor do you put it on? Because no matter what floor you put it on, what if the fire broke out one floor below? You know, you can't get to the equipment. So the only way they could get up the stairs to fight the fires was to carry all of the equipment with them, yep, yep. Not enough is said about those guys in history. No, and I met a number of them coming up the stairs as we were going down, and they wanted to escort me down, and I didn't want them to do that because I knew they were a team, and I I pushed back pretty hard and said, no, you guys go up and we'll go down unless we can help you fight the fires, and they said no. The reason they eventually let me go down without any assistance was I had a friend with me who could see, and I said, "Look, David can see. Don't worry about us. And David and they turned to David and they said, "You're with him. And David said, "Yeah, leave him alone. He's fine. So we went on down, and they went up. I don't know whether the people we interacted with made it down or perished up above. It was about 10 after 10 after nine or so when we got to the 30th floor where we met them. So it was another hour and almost 20 minutes before the tower collapsed, but I don't know where the firefighters were, or how many people from the groups that we interacted with perished, or if they all made it out. I don't know, but Bob Ellis  33:12 yep, I I memorized all those numbers. You know, 189 between the airplane and the Pentagon, 200 injured, but 189. 189 total were 64 on the airplane, 125 in the Pentagon, and I'll never forget those numbers. Yeah, I'll never forget the time. I looked at my watch at 9:17, and and I have to tell you that on 9/11, I always sit very quietly until I get past 917, not 937. I'm sorry, 937. Michael Hingson  33:48 So Bob Ellis  33:48 in the morning. Michael Hingson  33:49 So, how close were you to where the plane came into the Pentagon? Bob Ellis  33:56 About 300 yards. When when it was clear that the meeting wasn't going to happen because the air traffic control system had been shut down. They released us to go back to our our offices, and I was going out the front door. I left about 930. It was supposed to start at nine 930. The generals said we'll just reconvene, and and I agreed. And from his office on on the south portico, I was walking out the front door. Literally, I heard the engines spool up. I had been in the AOR in rail combat munitions, and and I've heard cruise missiles, and and I could hear this one spinning up, and I thought it was a cruise missile, and so when it hit when it hit the building, it was just it was just a horrendous sound. But my first impression was to run to it to see what happened, what what what caused that, and there was nothing there. It was just four or five cars burning and smoke billowing out of the building. And and the the rest turned into a you know a rescue and a a recovery. Michael Hingson  35:08 AOR is what Bob Ellis  35:10 the area of responsibility. Michael Hingson  35:13 Okay, area of responsibility. Okay, Bob Ellis  35:16 yeah, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, wherever we are, it's it's N A O R, and that's your A O R. That's state. That's where you are. So that that's where I encountered first first and only live person coming out of the building, and which was a which was a really big surprise. But I knew that there was something that I I had to do, and and one of the things was to, if he needed assistance, getting him assistance. And there were several people. He was he was he was burned third degree burns over his whole body. He lived. I said one prayer was for him. And as it turned out, he became a a great ambassador. Turned out to be a great friend, and is actually back in the Pentagon to this day, just steps away from his old office as a civilian, went went back on a presidential appointment. Michael Hingson  36:09 So, you mentioned the general a while ago. Was did he survive? Bob Ellis  36:15 No, he was the he was the highest ranking person that we lost in in the entire encounter, and it was the entire office was just instantly vaporized. So he did not survive. Michael Hingson  36:33 Well, so you heard the engines revving up, and you went after you heard the explosion and so on. You went over to see what was going on, and then what did you do? Because it certainly had to be a major surprise and a shock by any standard. Bob Ellis  36:49 Yeah, I went that side of the building, saw the hole in the building, kind of convinced myself it was a cruise missile, but I never heard such a loud engine noise. As it turned out, it was it was two big engines off of a 757 200, and so I immediately tried to figure out you know what can I do? What should I do? Should I even be here? And that's when I saw the colonel coming out of the building, and I was able to walk with him and four others over to the the road, the Washington Boulevard that goes around the Pentagon, and and I sat down on the telephone pole, a light pole that the airplane hit going in. Now I'm a pilot, and and I have to tell you to take an airplane going at Mach point eight seven, and hit a target, hit the building, and not hitting the ground was just absolutely amazing to me. So as they got the colonel into an SUV and and and got him out of the the scene, I sat there. Just it was almost like a movie I was watching. The triage was being set up. The Pentagon was burning. The emergency services units were starting to show up, and we had very intermittent phone capability. And I had I had a a friend, my my the commander that I worked for in Dallas at the time. This secretary's husband was a bodyguard for Secretary Rumsfeld, and and Secretary Rumsfeld was actually carrying litter patients, carrying people out of the debris area and out of the offices. He was actually helping people, and he he realized that something needed to be done. So he gave Jerry a note, a piece of paper. We called them snowflakes, but it was a tablet, and he had listed what needed to be done and what needed to be done now. And Jerry found me sitting over there and gave me that that piece of paper, and it had everything listed on it. He wanted a a tactical field operation in place. He wanted it now, not yesterday. He wanted something in the interim, and it was to provide emergency relief supplies. So I I sat down on that telephone pole and I called our our local dist not local our largest distribution center in the world was down in Newport News, and I got the director on the phone and I said, I have an official order from you coming from the Secretary of Defense, and and don't override, don't just just follow my instructions until we can get to the commander at AFIS headquarters, and so I gave him the list. I just gave him the full list of things that we needed to get rolling, and I called another gentleman that was just across the river, the American Logistics Association, which owned all of the brokers and manufacturers, and I gave him a list of stuff that we needed now, like Gatorade boots. the The surface was over 2000 degrees, and the emergency service boots were melting almost upon contact. So I had I had 1000s, hundreds of 1000s of dollars of equipment. And supplies coming in, and we set up the USO tent, put everything in the USO tent. We raided all the stores in the in the Washington D.C. area. I was able to contact the region manager, and I told him, you know, what we needed to take it off the shelf, put it in the back seat of the cars, don't account for it, and get it to me. And that's what we did the entire first night was setting up the USO trailer, and the next morning I had two tactical field tractor trailers coming up the ramp just as the sun was coming up, and they were loaded with supplies, and that's what stayed in place for the next two months. Over $2 million worth of merchandise, emergency recovery type merchandise, everything from linens to the towels to eye wash, and and and we had to actually have some special boots made out of leather for the dogs because the dogs' feet were so it was it was quite an operation. We ended up well running within within 24 hours of the attack, Michael Hingson  41:04 why is it that you are able to stay pretty focused through all of this? Bob Ellis  41:08 I you know I you know I I've often asked that question. I wanted to go home. Alls I could think of is my kids, my wife. What what are they doing? What are they thinking? They're watching this on the news, and I had I had drifted over to which my car was very close, and it was taped off. The parking lot was taped off. It was a crime scene. There was no going anywhere. There was no transportation. If I wanted to walk 40 miles, I guess I could have, but because I couldn't go anywhere, I had to do something there on the scene, so that's that's that's what I did, and and it wasn't until the next day when the phone started working again, our two star in Dallas was able to get through to me on on my BlackBerry, and he wanted to know what the situation was, and and and I told him, and and he said, what what are we going to do? And I explained to him what we had done already, and he says, "How did you do all of that? I said, "I picked up the phone and I told him I was working for Secretary Rumsfeld, and this is the order. And and he says, "How are we going to pay for all of this? I said, "Sir, this is our finest hour. We're not. We're going to donate. These are all donating goods, and and it really was an interesting. I I just I just don't know. I was compelled. He he he ordered me on that second day to go home, and and I said I had no way to go home. And he said go to the motor pool. I'm going to call the motor pool. He had been the commander of the Air Force One Squadron, so he had a lot of connections in Washington, and he he got me a car, and I went home long enough to change clothes and and and to come back out. So it was it was just out of adrenaline, I think. Somebody had to do something, and and everything that I've told you here today is not written anywhere in history. I own every bit of what happened in in in that story, other than some of the people that were working there. Michael Hingson  43:07 What phone did you use that first day? You said you're you're it was the second day or the next day that you're phoned. So how were you able to communicate? Bob Ellis  43:17 We had Blackberries, and and until the networks got completely overrun, we were able to use it. And and so by the second third day, we we had pretty consistent communication, because the the the commander called me back that same morning, and and he said, you know, he said, how come you haven't been home? And I explained to him, and he says, "Will you do me one favor? And I said, "I would. He said, "Will you go back into the building? Said, "Sir, the building's on fire. He says, "Well, well, you get in the front, and I'm looking at it. He was looking at it on television, and the military clothing store was in the very front, within 100 feet, probably of that door that I went out of. And he says, "Would you see if our people survive, and if the store itself survived? It was sitting near the the area. I went in the store. I went into the building, into the burning building, and was able to look in the door, and I could see that the the room was full of smoke, and the door was locked. So I told him I would assume that our people made it out, alive and okay. And they say that was a, and they did, and they absolutely did. And in fact, everybody that that that that had any kind of supervisory capability around the Beltway, they volunteered to come over and work for me and and operating that facility for 2024 hours a day, seven days a week. Wow! So and not and not to shorten the the question, I wasn't there, but because of what I was doing in the in the Pentagon, my old homestead was at Fort Hamilton. Fort Hamilton picked up the same thing and went over to the Trade Center area, and they gave them a place to put a mobile. Food truck, and they brought supplies in and pretty much supported the firefighters and the and the and the police there. So so we had quite an operation going for a long time. Michael Hingson  45:11 Yeah, and and needed to, but it was interesting and commendable that in both places people were able to focus, and were able to carry out missions. I know at the World Trade Center when the two towers collapsed. Of course, it was it was unexpected, but we know now, of course, why they collapsed. It wasn't that the planes hit; it's that they were they were full of what 36,000 pounds of jet fuel each, and that exploding jet fuel is what damaged the infrastructure of the buildings to cause them to be able to collapse. But as well as at the Pentagon, but very quickly people were able to start to move and deal with issues and put procedures in place that were able to, I'm sure, keep more people from perishing and keep kept more people being able to focus throughout the whole the whole sequence of events. It it certainly was very scary, but it is something that that people like you were able to do. I know for me, the reason I was able to focus was because I had learned what to do in an emergency at the World Trade Center. I spent time with people and I learned how the whole building was structured, so I knew when the building tipped, why it tipped, and and things like that. You Bob Ellis  46:40 felt it. You you felt it. Michael Hingson  46:43 Oh yeah. Oh my god. We moved probably at least 20 feet, and then it came back, and oh my Speaker 2  46:48 god, it Michael Hingson  46:48 got vertical again. It got vertical again, and then a few seconds later, it dropped about six feet because the expansion joints went back to their normal configuration. But Bob Ellis  46:59 we uh we we knew from 937 till about 5o'clock that evening there would be no more survivors. It was over, and and and the dogs were getting depressed because they were they were they were not cadaver dogs. They were recovery dogs, and they were used to fight. And we we actually had ceremonies for the dogs every day, where we sewed flags onto their collars, and they had special water and special food. So they played a big, big role in morale, mine especially. Michael Hingson  47:33 And at the same time, I know people had to do drills to keep the dogs focused because they weren't able to find people, as you said, so they had to do things to give them something to find to keep them happy, which was was so important. Bob Ellis  47:50 Yeah, that we had two two tractor trailers lined up. It was just just two 300 feet from where you went into the damaged area of the Pentagon, and those dogs and their handlers would get up underneath those trailers and sleep, and they would play with the dogs. We actually had some carpets brought out, tarps brought out, and that's kind of where that was kind of their headquarters during 911. We had to make it up as we went along, and and the other interesting part of this story is in 1972 at the at the refugee camp, I was sleeping in the back of a van because there was just no way to go home. It was too it was too far to drive home to turn around and come back at 8o'clock the next morning, and I heard somebody knocking at the door, and and and I and I opened up the door, and it was a military colonel in uniform, and there was a civilian standing there with him. And he says, "Are you part of this operation? And I said, "Yes, sir, I am. He said, "Who are you with? And I said, "The Army Air Force Exchange Service. And and he says, "You're not provided any other facilities. This, I said, that was my choice. And as it turned out, I was speaking to Secretary Rumsfeld during his first administration as Secretary of Defense, and it was interesting that when he found out that what I did in in that program, I won the Indo Indo China Award for service, and then of course you you move ahead to to 2001, and we we knew each other. I had briefed him several times, and we we knew each other in the Pentagon. And that day, he knew that I would know what to do for the support role, and that's why he sent the letter up. And as it turned out, when he retired and and left the Pentagon, he was on a book tour, and and the the general secretary and myself got an invite to come to the book tour with him and and have lunch with him. And he handed me a book and he said, "I want you to have this, but I don't want you to open it up until you, Bob. I don't want you to open it up till you get home. I don't want you to give it to your wife. And and it was like this. Sure, I'm not not a problem, and so I got I got home. You know, this is this is 10 years later, and handed the book to her, and I said, "Open it up. I'm not wasn't allowed, and there's a nice thank you page on the front from Secretary Rums for allowing him to use me on 9/11, and you just you just that's the best reward that I could have ever ever expected. A guy that I just idolized to do that. Michael Hingson  50:26 When you got home, so you weren't able to talk to your wife before you got home, or did you ever get communication so you could call her? Bob Ellis  50:33 No, I didn't. I when I finally got the phone back up and running and got in the car. I had lost the battery, so I said, "I'm gonna be home in in an hour. I'll just be there. But General Wax called up, and she answered the phone. She went. She went sometime during that day and pulled the kids out of the private school, brought them home. She could see my car. It was a yellow SUV, and she could see it in the South parking lot in the news choppers going around. She said that was my car where my spot was, and General Wax got her on the phone and she and and she answered the phone and he said this is C J Wax and she thought that was the call. She thought that was it, and she alls I could do was drop to my knees and and and C J said and it's it's okay. I've ordered him to come home. He's all right. He's running. He's running a a program for us for for recovery. And if he's not there, he should be there shortly. And then by the time I got there, I got to the front step. I'm asking the question about the World Trade Center, how they got the fire out, and I was ordered that I could not go in the house because I smelled like smoke. So, so two minutes before that, I was the most important person in the world, and and then all of a sudden, I was I was back to Bob, and I wasn't going to wear that that suit in the house to to smoke it. So anyway, that's that's how she found out. He he called her up. I asked him. I think I asked him if he would get in touch with her at our last conversation, and he did. Michael Hingson  52:06 Soon after both towers collapsed, like a minute or so later, I called and got through to my wife Karen. I had talked with her before we left our office, and then when we got downstairs, I couldn't get through to her because the circuits were busy, and it was obvious that everyone we learned later was saying goodbye to loved ones, and so the circuits were busy. So after both towers collapsed, I was able to get through to her, and as I tell people, there were tears on both sides of the phone at the when that conversation started, but she was the first one who told us how two aircraft had been crashed into the World Trade Center towers, one to the Pentagon, and at that time, the fourth one was apparently still missing over Pennsylvania, and of course, then it crashed at Shanksville. Bob Ellis  52:52 I love it. Michael Hingson  52:54 Yeah, but we, you know, we talked, so she knew I was okay. Then a friend of ours, Tom Painter, who had been a friend of Karen's at high school out in California, but Tom, over the years, had ended up moving to New Jersey. He came down to stay with her, not knowing until he arrived whether I was in the office that day or out with a customer or what was going on. And of course, then she told him, and so he drove her to the train station to pick me up. When, when I got back out to Westfield, we went home. And you talk about with with dogs. We got in the house, and I took Roselle's harness off because I was going to take her out, and she would have none of it. She ran off, grabbed her favorite tug bone and started playing tug of war with my retired guide dog Linny, and I talked to the veterinarians at Guide Dogs for the Blind in San Rafael the next day, and they said, "Did anything threaten her? And I said, "No, not directly. And they said, "That's why she ran off because it was over. Nothing threatened her. Bob Ellis  53:58 Comfortable. Michael Hingson  53:59 She, they don't. Dogs don't do what if like we do, and so she was comfortable. She was happy. She wanted to play, and then then she did go out. But by the same token, the the whole point was that she was able to deal with with all of it and was able to to focus. Then we got her outside and and came back in, and she ate and and all that. But the the the thing is that she focused all day, and and she did a a wonderful job. And the reason that she focused and did so well was mainly because I worked at keeping her focus by telling her every chance I got. You're a good girl. What a good dog! Good dog. You're doing a great job. Keep going. I did that all the way down the stairs in the World Trade Center, and I was very deliberate about that because I knew she had to sense the fear and what was going on, and I wanted her to know that I was okay and I was going to be there for. Her, which is of course what teamwork and support is all about. You understand that very well. You you proved it in so many ways. I kept working with Roselle and kept her focused, and you know it all it all really went well. I still think one of the most relevant things for me in the World Trade Center. I went down the stairs with a guy named David Frank. David was from our corporate office in California, and David and I were going to be conducting sales seminars that day, teaching some resellers how to sell our products. And we got down to about the 50th floor, so David was there to talk about the the pricing and so on. I was going to do the majority of the presentation because I was going to be their technical contact, anyway, and we got to about the 50th floor, going down, and suddenly David said, "Mike, we're going to die. We're not going to make it out of here. And as I tell people, since I got a teaching credential, I had learned all about the secrets of how to yell at students. So I just said, "Stop it, David. If Roselle and I can go down these stairs, so can you. And he then immediately said that I brought him out of his spunk, and he told me that later as well. But what he told me was that he wanted to walk a floor below me on the stairs and shout up to me everything that he was seeing. He had to take his mind off of what was going on, and so he asked if I cared, and I said, "No, go ahead. That's what you need to do. That's fine. So I got like down to the 48th floor, and he yelled, "47th floor, Mike. All's clear here. Going on down. So we went down several floors that way. Eventually, I got to 45, and he was 44th floor. This is where the Port Authority cafeteria is not stopping. And the reason I mention it is because I think what David did is one of the unsung things that is so important from September 11th. He kept shouting up to me everything that he saw, but the reality is, anyone in the sound of his voice heard that there was someone who was okay going down the stairs, and he had to keep panic out of people's senses for so many individuals, because they just heard him, Mike, 43rd floor, all's good here. Going on down the stairs, all the way down the stairs. He had to have been able to keep so many people focused because he was able to keep his mind off of what was going on by shouting to me, and I think that that's so important, and so I'm. I always tell that story. I've been telling it for many years now because I want people to know what he did to keep so many people focused going down the stairs, and he had to have done that. Bob Ellis  57:31 Well, you know, I have. That's that's the first I've heard that, and and and and I read everything that I followed your story very closely, as well as the colonel who I was so close to, but there there are a couple of stories that are just never mentioned, not talked about, and one of them where we had to do every day. There was an update that the military gave the families an update as to what is happening, what was found, what was recovered, what to expect, and they would bring the kids in to listen to these brutal military briefings. I mean, just you know, these were these were soldiers, these were these were combat folks, and this is the way they briefed. And the therapy dogs were brought in, and there wasn't but about a dozen of them, and I will never forget not only the kids on the floor with the arms around those dogs, but some of the adults were as well. And I thought, what what a moment! That was the most touching moment of my entire life witnessing that. I mean, I could have done without it, but it was it was a very special moment. And then the the other thing that the world doesn't know about is on the second day, I got a I got a phone call from Secretary Rumsfeld's office that the VA was completely out of coffin flags. We had nothing in inventory to to cover the remains or the caskets for burial, and what could I do? And and right right from the Pentagon parking lot, I I called one of the buyers that bought American flags in Dallas, and then I asked her who do you get flags from, and she says it's American Flag Company. I'll give them credit for that, and and I said you need you need to get their entire inventory. We need to get it flown in, whatever expenses cover it, and get them here. The Pentagon doesn't have them, and New York doesn't have them. And those flags came in. They were they were there about that midnight that that that night. Now boxed up, thrown in the bag box, whatever tape they were bound, but everybody that came out later, you know, the recoveries as we got deeper into the debris, that had a had a flag that that came that came from us in the as well as at the Pentagon, and they put two very big special flags in there. I mean, like you see flying over a car dealer. And they hung that on the side of the Pentagon. And if you look at any of the any of the news willers of that time, it was on day two that flag was hanging that that came in with the rest of the other flags. So it was it was quite impressive. You never know what the next moment was going to bring you on you know from my side and and and can I meet the challenge? That was what I constantly worry about. How could I let any of this down? And I've got to do something. And and we were making it up as we went along. Michael Hingson  1:00:33 Yeah, that's all you could do. And so when I go back to Bob Ellis  1:00:37 to to this to this day, you know, we go back. They've got 184 markers. I don't know how many people attend it, but it's it's right in that zone, right outside the building, in that grassy area where they they they've made that memorial. And 184 people, to include I think two infants, are are memorialized there forever, which is very touching. It was a that was a hard place to go back to. Still was New York City when I went to it because I'd never I had never been 20 years 20 years yet 18 years before I ever went to to New York City to see the recovery there. I've never I've not been to the to the to the Pennsylvania field. I plan to go. I want to go. Just hadn't been convenient to get there, but but if I do that, I will have seen all all the sites. Michael Hingson  1:01:26 Yeah, I haven't been to Pennsylvania either. In 2017, I did make it to the World Trade Center Museum. In well, so we moved out of Westfield, and I moved back to California in late January, beginning of February of 2002, to work for Guide Dogs for the Blind and and speak from there. And traveled around and speak. Karen was there for a couple more months selling our home, and then she came out. But in May of 2002, Roselle was going to be honored by Hart's Mountain, the pet food and pet supply company. So, so we went back to New York, and while we were there, I met one of the police officers with with one of the service with one of the rescue dogs that that had been around the World Trade Center, and he arranged for us to get in a vehicle and drive down into the pit that was where the World Trade Center was, and they had built an artificial, well, a temporary road, and they were bringing things up, but we got to go down to what would have been the seventh sublevel, the bottom of the tower, and it was just a for me just imagining it standing in that dirt area in a hole seven stories deep and remembering what what it was like, and then in 2017 I went to the World Trade Center Museum and got to spend a little bit of time there, and of course everything had been rebuilt. The reflecting pool was there, and so on. But it was nothing like what I remembered from having been in the World Trade Center, and I walked around with someone who was able to be aware and describe what was where we were and what was above us, or what part of the building we were in as we walked through the complex. But of course, it was totally different. So it was it was such a strange feeling to experience all of that. But we did it, you know. And so now I've been to the museum, and actually there is a there's an animal exhibit in the basement, and Roselle's collar is is part of that exhibit. We donated that to oh Bob Ellis  1:03:50 really, oh really, oh God, I I was I was thinking that when I asked you that question earlier today, and I was thinking about that that has got to be remarkable, you know that that that's what touched me so much at the period. That the fact that the two of you were such a team, and I read everything that newspapers printed and watched. I guess there was some there was some CBS specials and so forth too, where you were interviewed, and it was it was just it was just absolutely amazing. Michael Hingson  1:04:21 Well, it is. you know, it is a an awe-inspiring sort of thing. And you know, people always say, you know, don't you feel guilty about surviving when so many people didn't? And and I said, no, I I didn't have any control over that. But what I do have control over is having been a survivor. What am I going to do about it? It's my responsibility to decide how I'm going to deal with moving forward after something like that. And of course, the opportunity opened to travel and speak, and so I've been doing it ever since. And I believe my job is. Is to educate people about what happened on September 11th, and let them know t

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Spencer and Jamie break down the 10 core principles of Bogleheads investing and show how military service members can apply this simple, low-cost approach to build wealth through the TSP and other accounts. If you're overwhelmed by investing advice or tempted by day trading and crypto, this episode cuts through the noise with a proven strategy that's worked for decades. Hosts: Spencer Reese (former Air Force pilot, 12 years active duty) and Jamie (active duty officer) The 10 Bogleheads Principles Develop a workable plan - Create an investment policy statement (even informal) to guide decisions during market volatility Invest early and often - Automate contributions to remove decision fatigue; increase TSP allocation today Never bear too much or too little risk - Age-appropriate asset allocation; avoid the old G Fund default trap Diversify - Don't put all eggs in one basket; TSP funds cover entire US market plus international exposure Never try to time the market - Time IN the market beats timing the market; market dropped 19% in April 2025, now up 38% from that low Use index funds when possible - TSP offers five low-cost index funds; 90% of active managers can't beat index funds over 20 years Keep costs low - TSP expense ratios under 0.1%; avoid predatory companies charging 1-2%+ fees Minimize taxes - Leverage Roth TSP and Roth IRA; military tax advantages (BAH, BAS, combat zone exclusion) Invest with simplicity - LADS approach (Low-cost, Automated, Diversified, Simple); Warren Buffett's S&P 500 bet crushed hedge funds Stay the course - Measure performance in decades, not days/weeks; don't panic sell during downturns Key Takeaways Why Bogleheads Philosophy Works for Military: Takes power back from financial advisors and complex products Simple enough anyone can succeed with minimal effort Perfect match for TSP's low-cost index fund structure Removes emotion from investing decisions TSP Advantages: Five index funds (C, S, I, G, F) cover nearly entire investable market Lifecycle funds automatically balance risk by retirement year Expense ratios under 0.1% (incredibly low) Now defaults to lifecycle funds instead of G Fund (huge improvement with Blended Retirement System) Common Military Investing Mistakes: Old G Fund default trap - cost retirees millions in missed gains Trying to time the market or day trade Paying high fees to predatory companies Not automating contributions Measuring performance over days/weeks instead of decades The Math That Matters: First $100K took Spencer 4+ years; second $100K took 2 years (compound growth accelerates) Market will drop 30% in next 10 years (guaranteed) - but timing it is impossible S&P 500 gained 125% over 10 years vs. best hedge fund's 87% in Warren Buffett's famous bet April 2025 market drop: 19% down, then 38% up from that low within months Diversification Made Easy: C Fund: 500 largest US companies (S&P 500) S Fund: ~2,000 smaller US companies I Fund: 5,000+ international companies (20+ developed + emerging markets, excludes China/Hong Kong) Combined: Total US and international market exposure Add VXUS in Roth IRA for China/Hong Kong exposure if desired Automation is Your Friend: Log into MyPay once, increase TSP allocation, never think about it again Every promotion or time-in-grade raise = bump allocation by 1% One decision removes 100 future decisions Eliminate decision fatigue and emotional reactions Fee Impact Example: Predatory companies charge 1-2%+ fees TSP: Under 0.1% Fidelity FZROX: 0% expense ratio Vanguard funds: 0.03% Rule of thumb: Stay under 0.25%, ideally under 0.10% Resources Mentioned Books: "The Little Book of Common Sense Investing" by Jack Bogle "The Military Money Manual" by Spencer Reese (available at MWR Library, Libby app, Amazon) Investment Accounts: TSP (Thrift Savings Plan) - Military 401k Roth TSP and Roth IRA (tax-advantaged accounts) Recommended brokerages: Fidelity, Vanguard, Schwab Key Terms: LADS: Low-cost, Automated, Diversified, Simple Index fund vs. active management Expense ratio and basis points Asset location strategy Investment Policy Statement Previous Episodes Referenced: TSP deep dives (search podcast) Roth TSP vs. Roth IRA explanations "Do Better" episode on predatory companies Real-World Examples Lieutenant with $50K in checking account - proves military pay allows saving, just need to invest it Service member paid off all auto and student loans in 3 months of deployment Retirees with $250-500K in G Fund who missed out on millions Enron, WorldCom, Lehman Brothers - why diversification matters MicroStrategy (MSTR) - current example of concentrated risk Who This Episode Is For Military service members at any rank TSP participants unsure how to invest Anyone tempted by day trading, crypto, or "get rich quick" schemes New investors overwhelmed by options Service members paying high fees to financial advisors Anyone who wants a simple, proven wealth-building strategy Quick Action Steps Log into MyPay and increase TSP allocation (even 1% helps) Verify you're in appropriate Lifecycle Fund (birth year + 60-65 years) NOT in G Fund unless near retirement Set automatic annual increases (1% per year) Open Roth IRA at Fidelity, Vanguard, or Schwab Read "The Military Money Manual" (free at base library) Stop checking account daily - check quarterly at most Contact Website: MilitaryMoneyManual.com Instagram: @MilitaryMoneyManual Book: "The Military Money Manual" (Amazon, $3 Kindle, free at MWR libraries) The Bogleheads philosophy has helped millions become millionaires through simple, low-cost index fund investing. As a military service member, you have access to one of the best low-cost investment vehicles in the world - the TSP. Stop overthinking it, automate your investments, and stay the course.  

Is 2026 the year you finally take control of your military finances? With a 3.8% pay raise, new TSP contribution limits of $24,500, and proven strategies that helped one E-7 reach $600,000 in net worth by year 14, Spencer and Jamie break down exactly how to build wealth while serving, even if you're starting from scratch or recovering from financial setbacks. In this episode, we provide a comprehensive 2026 financial reset for military families, covering everything from emergency funds and debt payoff to maxing tax-advantaged accounts and avoiding lifestyle creep. Perfect for anyone wanting to turn the new year into a fresh financial start. Main Discussion Points Know Where You Are Before You Start Track your spending using apps like Monarch Money, YNAB, Rocket Money, or simple spreadsheet Face your financial reality- write down all debt and net worth even if it's negative Government shutdown proved why emergency funds matter: 3-6 months of expenses minimum Example: $500 car repair covered by emergency fund eliminated stress entirely Unique Military Financial Advantages Tax-free income: BAH, BAS, COLA not subject to federal income tax or payroll taxes (7%+ savings) State tax residency: Change to tax-free state (Texas, Florida, etc.) when stationed there! Spouse can too under Military Spouse Residency Relief Act TSP match: 5% automatic match after 2 years for BRS members. Don't leave free money on table Healthcare and housing covered through Tricare and BAH/base housing Example: Saving $300/month by changing state residency adds up to thousands annually 2026 Numbers to Know TSP contribution limit: $24,500 (up from previous year) TSP annual additions limit: $72,000 (includes match and combat zone contributions) Roth IRA limit: $7,000 per person ($14,000 for married couples, even if spouse doesn't work) Military pay raise: 3.8% coming. Automate at least 1% of increase into TSP E6 with 8+ years gets roughly $150-180/month extra income from pay raise Priority Order for Tax-Advantaged Accounts Contribute 5% to TSP (get full government match for BRS members) Max Roth IRA: $7,000 for you, $7,000 for spouse Go back and max TSP at $24,500 Only then consider taxable brokerage accounts Total to max everything: $48,500 for married couples Don't stress if you can't max—contributing 10-20% is still excellent and beats average American 5% savings rate Invest Simply Using LADS Method Low-cost, Automated, Diversified, Simple TSP Lifecycle 2075 fund: 60% US stocks, 40% international, minimal bonds—perfect set-it-and-forget-it option Alternative: 80% C Fund, 10% S Fund, 10% I Fund Don't performance chase because last year's winner often becomes next year's loser Boring is beautiful in investing. Let it compound for 20 years Path to Military Millionaire Status E7 example: $500/month starting as E3, by age 45 = $1 million at 7% return Real example from Reddit: E7 with 14 years, $600,000 saved, contributing $20-25k/year In 10 years that E7 will have $1.2 million just from money already contributed (before new contributions) Add military pension: $30k/year plus $40k from 4% rule = $70k annual income in retirement Time is your biggest asset. US stock market doubles roughly every 7-10 years Common Mistakes to Avoid in 2026 Not contributing to TSP at all (minimum 5%, goal 15%+) TSP loans for non-emergencies...change behavior instead New car trap: 7-year car loans becoming standard, shooting yourself in financial foot Lifestyle creep: Give half of pay raise to savings, half to lifestyle improvements Waiting for "perfect time." Spoiler: there's never a perfect time. Start this weekend Capture Free Money Review LES monthly for accuracy File paperwork for CZTE, hostile fire pay, family separation allowance Follow up with finance multiple times if needed. Don't give up on money you're owed Request corrected W2s if aircrew touching tax-free zones in Nov/Dec Spencer recovered $20,000+ over career by being persistent with finance Take Action Now Schedule family money meeting. Make it a priority! Hire babysitter if needed, dedicate one hour Write down all debt on paper: credit cards, student loans, auto loans Acknowledge it's overwhelming but necessary to move forward Resources: Dave Ramsey's Total Money Makeover or Ramit Sethi's I Will Teach You to Be Rich Resources & Links Budgetting and tracking: Monarch Money, YNAB (You Need A Budget), Rocket Money, Every Dollar Credit card offers: Card Pointers Chrome plugin Free books: Libby app + MWR library on base Military Money Manual by Spencer Reese Selected as US Air Force Academy Class of 2023 graduating gift Dave Ramsey's Total Money Makeover Ramit Sethi's I Will Teach You to Be Rich and Money for Couples TSP match/max charts by rank The Money Guy Show: Financial Order of Operations   Spencer and Jamie offer one-on-one Military Money Mentor sessions. Get your personal military money and personal finance questions answered in a confidential coaching call. militarymoneymanual.com/mentor Over 20,000 military servicemembers and military spouses have graduated from the 100% free course available at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3 In the Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course, you can learn how to apply for the most premium credit cards and get special military protections, such as waived annual fees, on elite cards like The Platinum Card® from American Express and the Chase Sapphire Reserve® Card. https://militarymoneymanual.com/amex-platinum-military/ https://militarymoneymanual.com/chase-sapphire-reserve-military/ Learn how active duty military, military spouses, and Guard and Reserves on 30+ day active orders can get your annual fees waived on premium credit cards in the Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3 If you want to maximize your military paycheck, check out Spencer's 5 star rated book The Military Money Manual: A Practical Guide to Financial Freedom on Amazon or at shop.militarymoneymanual.com. Want to be confident with your TSP investing? Check out the Confident TSP Investing course at militarymoneymanual.com/tsp to learn all about the Thrift Savings Plan and strategies for growing your wealth while in the military. Use promo code "podcast24" for $50 off. Plus, for every course sold, we'll donate one course to an E-4 or below- for FREE! If you have a question you would like us to answer on the podcast, please reach out on instagram.com/militarymoneymanual.

Une équipe de chercheurs vient de caractériser l'épaisseur de la glace et la structure du sous-sol d'Europe (lune de Jupiter) grâce au radiomètre micro-ondes de la sonde Juno. Alors qu'on estimait auparavant que cette croute de glace surplombant un océan liquide faisait entre 3 km et 30 km, la valeur trouvée aujourd'hui est dans la fourchette haute : 29 ± 10 km, mais il y aurait des fissures de plusieurs centaines de mètres de profondeur. L'étude est publiée dans Nature Astronomy. Source Europa's ice thickness and subsurface structure characterized by the Juno microwave radiometerS. M. Levin et al.Nature Astronomy (17 december 2025)https://doi.org/10.1038/s41550-025-02718-0 Illustrations Europe imagée par Juno lors de son survol du 29 septembre 2022 (NASA) Données MWR pour chaque canal de fréquence, superposées sur une carte d'Europe (Levin et al.) Steven Levin

In this week's edition of The Marne Report, Alissa Moore, MWR special events coordinator, shares details for the upcoming Winterfest celebration. She provides information on holiday activities, tree lighting ceremonies and more. Take a listen now by searching for 'The Marne Report' wherever you get your podcast or click the resources tab on My Army Post app.

Spencer Reese and Jamie deliver a no-nonsense, tough-love episode for military families struggling with paycheck-to-paycheck living. This episode cuts through excuses and provides three immediate, actionable steps to regain control of your finances and stop the financial bleeding. If you're stressed about money, fighting with your spouse about finances, or feeling overwhelmed and behind—this episode is your emergency action procedure. Topics Covered Three Immediate Actions: Delete Social Media Apps - Remove the influence of billions of advertising dollars designed to manipulate your spending decisions Create Intentional Inconvenience - Delete delivery apps (DoorDash, Uber Eats), switch to debit cards or cash, freeze credit cards, eliminate "buy now, pay later" options Cancel All Subscriptions - Cut Netflix, Disney+, Amazon Prime, Spotify, and every other recurring charge until you're financially stable Key Financial Concepts: Emergency action procedures for financial crises The power of adding friction to spending habits - will power vs. won't power Why making life temporarily uncomfortable leads to long-term wealth Technology spending (why kids don't need $1,600 iPhones) The importance of game selection in personal finance Emergency funds turning emergencies into inconveniences Net worth tracking as a behavioral tool The Wealth Ladder Framework (Nick Maggiulli): Level 1: Less than $10,000 net worth - Focus on avoiding financial traps Level 2: $10,000-$100,000 - Avoid buying houses you can't afford, keep working hard, invest in TSP and Roth IRA Level 3: $100,000-$1 million - Where compound growth accelerates Level 4: $1 million-$10 million - Achievable for military families over a career Levels 5-6: $10 million+ - Beyond most military aspirations Common Military Family Mistakes: Spending more on housing than BAH covers Buying houses with 0% down and getting stuck Purchasing vehicles beyond their means Lifestyle inflation and comparison spending Technology overspending on devices and subscriptions Long-term vs Short-term Strategy: Short-term (Emergency Mode): Cut expenses, save the difference, get out of debt Long-term (Wealth Building): Increase income, spend on what matters, maintain healthy savings rate Books & Resources Mentioned Books: The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter - On the benefits of doing hard things The Opt-Out Family - On intentional family living Taking Your Family Back - Family relationship guidance The Anxious Generation - On technology's impact on children Dave Ramsey's principles (referenced) Tools & Resources: Libby app - Free audiobooks and ebooks MWR library system - Free military library access Net worth tracking tools Cash envelope system for budgeting Military OneSource - Free financial counseling Base financial counseling services Concepts Referenced: Nick Maggiulli Wealth Ladder framework Dave Ramsey's "pay yourself first" principle Emergency fund philosophy The 12-step program approach to financial recovery Key Quotes "Life begins just outside your comfort zone." "You have to be careful about game selection because you can win at the wrong game." "If you're the problem, you're also the solution." "As you build wealth, you stop having emergencies." "Your overspending isn't hurting me. It's not hurting Jamie. It's only hurting you and your loved ones." "You don't need to wait for financial independence to start living like you're financially independent." Practical Examples Shared Spencer's story: Freezing credit card in ice as a young lieutenant Jamie's debit card sleeve with debt payoff reminders The $1,000 emergency oil pan repair that didn't derail finances Military families spending $3,000 on housing with $2,000 BAH Hawaii homeowner unable to sell due to rising HOA fees 2022 home purchase with 0% down, now unable to sell Peloton subscription cancellation saving $132 over 3 months First graders with iPhones creating peer pressure Target Audience This episode is specifically for: Military families living paycheck to paycheck Service members stressed about money Couples fighting about finances Anyone in credit card debt or feeling financially overwhelmed Military spouses managing finances during deployments Young service members (E1-E5, O1-O3) establishing financial foundations Anyone ready to make radical changes to their financial situation Spencer and Jamie offer one-on-one Military Money Mentor sessions. Get your personal military money and personal finance questions answered in a confidential coaching call. militarymoneymanual.com/mentor Over 20,000 military servicemembers and military spouses have graduated from the 100% free course available at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3 In the Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course, you can learn how to apply for the most premium credit cards and get special military protections, including waived annual fees, on elite cards like the American Express Platinum Card® and the Chase Sapphire Reserve® Card. https://militarymoneymanual.com/amex-platinum-military/ https://militarymoneymanual.com/chase-sapphire-reserve-military/ Learn how active duty military, military spouses, and Guard and Reserves on 30+ day active orders can get your annual fees waived on premium credit cards in the Ultimate Military Credit Cards Course at militarymoneymanual.com/umc3 If you want to maximize your military paycheck, check out Spencer's 5 star rated book The Military Money Manual: A Practical Guide to Financial Freedom on Amazon or at shop.militarymoneymanual.com. Want to be confident with your TSP investing? Check out the Confident TSP Investing course at militarymoneymanual.com/tsp to learn all about the Thrift Savings Plan and strategies for growing your wealth while in the military. Use promo code "podcast24" for $50 off. Plus, for every course sold, we'll donate one course to an E-4 or below- for FREE! If you have a question you would like us to answer on the podcast, please reach out on instagram.com/militarymoneymanual.

Dale Earnhardt Jr welcomes in NASCAR Cup Series winner David Reutimann to discuss his upbringing, hard hits behind the wheel, and life after NASCAR. After stepping away from NASCAR racing in 2014, Dale Jr. and David review his cold-turkey departure from the sport and the hardships of not being able to walk away on his own terms. He also details memorable moments from behind the wheel, which included a controversial Coke 600 win, getting physically ill before qualifying, MWR's Daytona rocket fuel cheating scandal, and the vicious crashes he's endured over the years. The fans requested this one, and it's one you won't want to miss. And for more content check out our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMediaDirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They've got some awesome Dale Jr. Download merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuffFanDuel: Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call (800) 327-5050 for 24/7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York.

Dale Earnhardt Jr. gets a true look into the inner workings of NASCAR when he sits down with longtime crew chief and official Robin Pemberton. The two discuss Robin's early days working with legends like Richard Petty, Bobby Allison, Mark Martin & Rusty Wallace. They also go into detail on his time as NASCAR's VP of Competition, which involved MWR's controversial "Spingate," creating the modern-day NASCAR Playoff format, and much more.And for more content check out our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMediaDirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They've got some awesome Dale Jr. Download merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuffFanDuel: Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call (800) 327-5050 for 24/7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York.

High5Tom and Tommy Trainwreck chopped it up aboat We Love Wrestling upcoming show Northwoods Death Trip going down in Dunbar WI. Too say this card is stacked......well tune in see what we had to say aboat it. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Get Tix at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/we-love-wrestling-the-real-deal-tickets Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Or catch it on IWTV https://independentwrestling.tv/player/aV43Mno7ZG Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Austin Nace @devydeets and Matt Bruening @sportsfanaticmb discuss the most recent commitments and their early thoughts on them. RB, Jonaz Walton to Notre DameWR, Davion Brown to Penn StateWR, Amare Gough to SyracuseWR, Jakai Anderson flips from LSU to SMUWR, Corey Barber to Ole MissPlus they breakdownWR, Aaron Gregory Texas A&MWR, Vance Spafford GeorgiaRB, Jonathan Hatton Jr. Texas A&MQB, Brady Smigiel MichiganIf you're passionate about college fantasy football and want more in-depth analysis, give this video a thumbs up, share it with your fellow fans, and hit that Subscribe button! Don't forget to turn on notifications

In this week's edition of The Marne Report, Jason Hull, MWR marketing director, talks all things summer for Fort Stewart-Hunter Army Airfield community. Learn about the Salute to Summer concert, Independence Day, and smaller events taking place throughout the coming months. Take a listen now by searching "The Marne Report" wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers the Midwest Wrestling Roundup is back for a convo with my good friend Jason and his new adventure as he is putting on his first show and the first show in Menominee in a long time (Like AWA long time). #supportmidwestwrestling Follow Jason at: Facebook Follow ICW North at Facebook Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

In this episode of the cityCURRENT Show, host Andrew Bartolotta is joined by Mykl Wallrath, Executive Director, and Donnie Chambliss, Board Member of Mississippi Wildlife Rehabilitation, Inc. (MWR). With nearly 30 years of experience, MWR is a cornerstone in the wildlife rehabilitation, conservation, and education sectors in Northwest Mississippi. In 2024, MWR treated 775 wildlife patients and reached over 20,000 individuals through various educational initiatives. Join us as we delve into MWR's impactful work, the exciting opening of the Valery E. Smith Nature Center later this year, and the upcoming Virginia Trails in Senatobia, Mississippi. The Valery E. Smith Nature Center is a visionary project by Mississippi Wildlife Rehabilitation, Inc. (MWR) that symbolizes a significant leap forward in wildlife conservation and public education. Named in honor of MWR's founder, the center is set to become a hub for wildlife enthusiasts and the general public, providing immersive experiences in nature conservation. The center will feature an array of educational and rehabilitative facilities, including a Raptor Garden, where visitors can observe birds of prey in their enclosures, and an Interpretive Center, designed to educate guests about local wildlife and the ecosystem. Additionally, the nature center will host a variety of live animal exhibits, including a large aquatic turtle display and an enclosure for Cornelius the corn snake. The outdoor area will boast a "Secret Garden" – a serene space planted with native fruiting and flowering plants that attract local birds and pollinators, alongside an outdoor box turtle habitat. This enriching environment will not only serve as a living classroom for visitors but also exemplify sustainable practices that support local wildlife, making the Valery E. Smith Nature Center a cornerstone in regional conservation efforts.Learn about how MWR is not only rehabilitating wildlife but also inspiring the next generation through their innovative educational programs and community partnerships.Learn more: https://www.mswildliferehab.org/

Join us for another impactful episode of #VETSOS, where we sit down with JR, founder of the True Top 1% Foundation. JR shares his incredible journey from a career in sales and behavioral science to pioneering art therapy programs for veterans. His foundation is dedicated to supporting military veterans through creative expression, helping them heal from trauma and combat stress through painting, music therapy, culinary arts, woodworking, and more.JR walks us through the powerful impact of programs like Painting for PTS, Beer Bottle Painting Therapy, and Captain S. Claus, all of which are designed to provide free mental health toolkits and camaraderie-building workshops for veterans across the country.If you or a veteran you know could benefit from creative outlets for mental health and suicide prevention, don't miss this episode!

What up High Fivers and High Flyers. The 3 Peas in a Pod return but we were not alone when the MWR cohost joined us to talk some Strange Brew the first (of hopefully many) Ruthless Pro and We Love Mashups back at the World Famous La Pica Lounge #3. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Tix are limited so you can order here https://ruthlesspro.ticketleap.com Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Can't make it like check out on IWTV https://independentwrestling.tv/ Follow Ruthless Pro at all the socials below https://www.facebook.com/RuthlessProWrestlingOfficial liinks.co/ruthlesspro Follow Peapod on all the socials from the link tree below https://linktr.ee/PeapodCalls4U Follow Eric on the Instagram https://www.instagram.com/natteringe/ Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up High Fivers and High Flyers, the newly crowned 3 peas in a pod Freeds and High5Tom had the honor of having our favorite commentator the legendary Peapod to talk a little Timebomb Pro before diving into the Main Event which is Ruthless Pro's Malignant going down at the legendary Berwyn Eagles Club. This card is fuckin stacked but not as stacked as this convo. What a blast can't wait for 11/23. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Tix are limited so you can order here https://ruthlesspro.ticketleap.com Can't make it like check out on IWTV https://independentwrestling.tv/ Follow Ruthless Pro at all the socials below https://www.facebook.com/RuthlessProWrestlingOfficial liinks.co/ruthlesspro Follow Peapod on all the socials from the link tree below https://linktr.ee/PeapodCalls4U Follow Eric on the Instagram https://www.instagram.com/natteringe/ #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up High Flyers and High Fivers another great MWR as I review a stellar We Love Wrestling anniversary show and then Ref Jerry and I dive into a HUGE ICW Milwaukee weekend #supportmidwestwrestling To pick up ICW tix ahead of time hit DYSfunction at https://www.facebook.com/KurtKruegerMilwaukee Follow Jerry at https://www.facebook.com/jerry.gummo Subscribe to the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up High Flyers and High Fivers--Your boy High5Tom is back....kind of. This week have a very very special review of the upcoming We Love Wrestling anniversary show "One Hit Wonder" And I brought in the tripod of WLW the 3 people that make it run. First a solo conversation with my man Curtis who is the man behind the camera. Then I talked to my man Tommy Trainwreck and his better half Danielle. Good to have my co host Tommy back but this is conversation your not gonna miss if you love wrestling (read what I did there) #supportmidwestwrestling Subscribe to the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up High Flyers and High Fivers in addition to a sweet action review of ICW Milwaukee by yours truly we have promo as listed below: 2econd Wrestling 09/26 https://www.facebook.com/2econdWrestling St Anarchy 09/27 https://www.facebook.com/STLAnarchy Midwest Champ Wrestling 09/27/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094016531363 SSW 09/27 https://www.facebook.com/SSWonline/posts/731996365627833 Freelance 0927 https://www.facebook.com/@FreelanceWrestling Pro Wrestling King 09/27-28 https://www.facebook.com/PWKProWrestlingKing Frontline Pro 09/28 https://www.facebook.com/frontlineproentertainment Magnum Pro 09/28 https://www.facebook.com/MAGNUMWRESTLING Below Zero 09/28 https://www.facebook.com/BelowZeroWrestling JWA 09/28 https://www.facebook.com/jwatoday Absolute Intense Wrestling 09/28 https://www.facebook.com/Aiwrestling Magnum Pro 09/28 https://www.facebook.com/MAGNUMWRESTLING Glory Pro 09/29 https://www.facebook.com/WeAreGloryPro #supportmidwestwrestling Subscribe to the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up High Flyers and High Fivers another great MWR as we start off with shoutout to my "cohost" Tommy Trainwreck for winning Horror Slam Murder City Death Cup 3. In addition to all the promo had another great conversation with Ref Jerry Promo's for these companies ICW Milwaukee 09/20 https://www.facebook.com/icwmilwaukee Pro Wrestling Battle Ground 09/20 https://www.facebook.com/ProWrestlingBattleground Rocket Pro 09/20 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063070579779 GLCW 09/21 https://www.facebook.com/BlizzardBrawl POWW Entertainement 09/21 https://www.facebook.com/POWWEntertainment Wrestling Revovler 09/21 https://www.facebook.com/PWRevolver Southland 09/21 https://www.facebook.com/SouthlandChampionshipWrestling Battle Tested Pro 09/21 https://www.facebook.com/BattleTestedPremierWrestling Flophouse Wrestling 09/22 https://www.facebook.com/FlophouseAF Read friend of the shows Josh Olson awesome Horror Slam Murder City Death Cup. https://slamwrestling.net/index.php/2024/09/15/horror-slam-murder-city-death-match-cup-brings-the-pane/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFVzs1leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHRX90r_Mr-ePJvrMp4EqWRRJ_lzqub4IsEw3sV3feV9yHBBgrGRSHDs5yw_aem_er1rLwEOjabdy5or9t7dOw #supportmidwestwrestling To pick up ICW tix ahead of time hit DYSfunction at https://www.facebook.com/KurtKruegerMilwaukee Follow Jerry at https://www.facebook.com/jerry.gummo Subscribe to the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up Highfivers and Highflyers had great chance to sit down with some of favorite wrestling peeps when I sat down the Kat, Ben and Cindy. We chopped it up aboat the upcoming Battle Tested Pro show going down September 21st and......the fund raising for the Chicagoland Bully Breed Rescue. Its gonna be a great time for an even greater cause. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia Chicagoland Bully Breed Rescue https://www.facebook.com/CBBR.org For tix for this weekends show: https://www.battletestedprowrestling.net/ Make Sure to subscribe to Battle tested on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@BattletestedProWrestling Follow Battle Tested Pro on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BattleTestedPremierWrestling

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. Got a review from Kong of the Kill from Freeds, then my good friend Scott got me the results for Flow and then WLW results, all that before we dive into the promo's below. #supportmidwestwrestling Horror Slam 09/13 https://www.facebook.com/HorrorSlam CSW 09/13 https://www.facebook.com/ChicagoStyleWrestling Asylum Wrestling Revolution 09/13 https://www.facebook.com/AsylumWrestlingRevolution Legacy Pro 09/13-14 https://www.facebook.com/legacyprowi Asylum Wrestling Revolution 09/13 https://www.facebook.com/AsylumWrestlingRevolution UPW 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/upwprowrestling AWF and you know personal friend of the Midwest Wrestling Roundup JJ Rogue will be in the building 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/proAWF Showtime 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/showtimeprowrestling1 RCCW 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/RiverCityCW WCPW 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/OfficialWCPW Brew City Wrestling has their show back the Elks Lodge in Waukesha WI 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/BrewCityWrestling1 WCPW 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/OfficialWCPW Now Thats Wrestling 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/NOWthatsWRESTLING Destination 6 09/14 https://www.facebook.com/Destination6ProWrestling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Make sure to check out FLOW on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@Fantasticleaguewrestling Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Markin Out with High5Tom: The High5Tom Showcase Podcast; Episode 2.17 as H5T sat down with fellow VGM'er Eric Freeds from Nattering with E. This one one was a LONG time coming as we talked Gangs of New York. It was well worth that wait and still relevant today. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because you know we sure as shit did. Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia Instagram @christl_mathIntro Music by Christl Math https://www.threads.net/@christl_math Bandcamp https://christlmath.bandcamp.com/

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. Got a review from Kong of the Kill from Freeds, then my good friend Scott got me the results for Flow and then WLW results, all that before we dive into the promo's below. #supportmidwestwrestling Mondo Lucha 09/06 https://www.facebook.com/mondolucha Divine Pro Wrestling 09/06 https://www.facebook.com/divinewomensprowrestling2019 F1rst 09/07 https://www.facebook.com/f1rstwrestling Rocket Pro 09/07 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063070579779 Pro Wrestling King 09/07 https://www.facebook.com/PWKProWrestlingKing ZOWA 09/07 https://www.facebook.com/zowalive POWW Entertainement 09/07 https://www.facebook.com/POWWEntertainment We Love Wrestling 09/07 https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Make sure to check out FLOW on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@Fantasticleaguewrestling Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. In addition to all the fantastic promo we have the results for AAW latest show Face the Heat from the legendary Berwyn Eagles Club. Quick programing note as Ruthless Pro annual King of the Kill tournament we will have a review for ya next week due to some logistical issues so bare with us. Freelance 08/29 https://www.facebook.com/FreelanceWrestling Third Coast Wrestling 08/31 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61554642456623 Wrestle Punkz 08/31 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61558022308802 F1rst 08/31 https://www.facebook.com/f1rstwrestling Independe Pro Wrestling 08/31 https://www.facebook.com/IndependenceProWrestling FLOW 08/31 https://www.facebook.com/flofwrestling We Love Wrestling 08/31 https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling #supportmidwestwrestling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Make sure to check out FLOW on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@Fantasticleaguewrestling Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

This week on the Midwestern Wrestling Roundup High5Tom had the distinct pleasure of talking with Shawn, John and Scott about the upcoming Fantastic League of Wrestling on August 31st. Well that and SO much more. This conversation dug into the card, the venue and what makes F.L.O.W. Make sure to follow FLOW at all the links below. Follow Fantastic League of Wrestling social Media sites. www.instagram.com/flofwrestling/ www.youtube.com/@Fantasticleaguewrestling Facebook Page Fantastic League of Wrestling Official Merchandise https://fantasticleagueofwrestling-shop.fourthwall.com Tiktok www.tiktok.com/@flofwrestling Twitter/X Follow https://x.com/FLOWrestling24?t=DMoohaybRahKf150w4nGvA&s=09 Follow John at https://www.facebook.com/john.bullard.3388 Follow Scott at https://www.facebook.com/FlyingBurrito Follow Shawn at https://www.facebook.com/shawn.porter.125 Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. In addition to the promo's listed we have the Insane 8 pre show results. Stay tuned for a full Insane 8 review in the coming weeks Hybrid Wrestling entertainment 08/23 https://www.facebook.com/HWELLC23 Flophouse Wrestling https://www.facebook.com/FlophouseAF Southland 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/SouthlandChampionshipWrestling POWW Entertainement 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/POWWEntertainment Super Shogun Wrestling 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/SuperShogunWrestling Magnum Pro 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/MAGNUMWRESTLING JWA 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/jwatoday Wrestling Revovler 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/PWRevolver Absolute Intense Wrestling 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/Aiwrestling City Championship Wrestling 08/24/2024 https://www.facebook.com/CityChampionshipWrestling 4th Wall 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/4thWallWrestling Ruthless Pro Wrestling 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/RuthlessProWrestlingOfficial AAW 08/24 https://www.facebook.com/AAWPro To Get Tickets go to aawpro.ticketleap.com Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up High Fivers and High Flyers, I had the pleasure of sitting down with one of the finest "unsigned" commentaries in the game, my good Friend Peapod. Yet another great conversation as we did a recap of Scum of the Earth, dug into what it takes to do a show like that, before we dove into the main event. Flophouse show on 08/23 then Ruthless Pro biggest show of the year there soon to be legendary King of the Kill 2 tourney. Great conversation and make sure A.) Follow Peapod on all the socials. B.) After following check out some of Peapods other podcast appearance including friends of MWR The Shining Wizards and Nattering with E. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Tix are limited so you can order here https://ruthlesspro.ticketleap.com Can't make it like check out on IWTV https://independentwrestling.tv/ Follow Ruthless Pro at all the socials below https://www.facebook.com/RuthlessProWrestlingOfficial liinks.co/ruthlesspro Follow Peapod on all the socials from the link tree below https://linktr.ee/PeapodCalls4U #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom sat down with Fuck You Yanni QG (those that know, know but shoutout Chad) and this was another blast of a conversation. As much as I/we have boo'd Yanni, the simple fact is he is a ICW legend, and watching his growth into a deathmatch wrestler has been great. Another great conversation as we gear up for Insane 8 2024. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Follow Yanni on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/greekogq As always dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow MWR at https://x.com/MWRPod414 Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom sat down with Dr. Redacted while we did talk about some awesome death match material we alo dug into travel tips and we think of particular airports and so much more. I know I saw this a lot but this is just the tip of the iceberg so stay tuned for more material Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Buy one of the Dr. Redacted sick shirts from Death Match World Wide https://www.deathmatchworldwide.com/category/dr-redacted Follow the Dr. on twitter https://x.com/DRxRedacted Follow on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drxredacted/ As always dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow MWR at https://x.com/MWRPod414 Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. In addition to the promo's listed below and another great convo with Ref Jerry as we get the official rundown for ICW Milwaukee (and Midwest Death Match) biggest show of the year the Insane 8. UWE 08/15 https://www.facebook.com/UWEPROWRESTLING CSW 08/16 https://www.facebook.com/ChicagoStyleWrestling Wrestle League 08/16 https://www.facebook.com/wrestleleague Slam championship Wrestling 08/16 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057491528414 Higher Ground Wrestling 08/16 https://www.facebook.com/HigherGroundWrestling Below Zero 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/BelowZeroWrestling Pro Wrestling Battle Ground 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/ProWrestlingBattleground Frozen Tundra 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/FrozenTundraWrestling Squared Circle Megastars 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/SquaredCircleMegastars Independe Pro Wrestling 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/IndependenceProWrestling Alliance Pro 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/AllianceProWrestling Asylum Wrestling Revolution 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/AsylumWrestlingRevolution Brew City Wrestling has their show back the Elks Lodge in Waukesha WI 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/BrewCityWrestling1 Rugged Pro 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/RuggedProWrestling MAW 08/17 https://www.facebook.com/MidwestAllStarWrestling ICW Milwaukee 08/18 https://www.facebook.com/icwmilwaukee Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. To pick up ICW tix ahead of time hit DYSfunction at https://www.facebook.com/KurtKruegerMilwaukee Follow Jerry at https://www.facebook.com/jerry.gummo Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom sat down with one of the most underrated members of the ICW roster and Death Matches in General the Honey Badger Neil Diamond Cutter. NDC is one of my first death match favs not only a crazy mother fucker in the ring but a charcther inside and out. Also Neil dives into your first "shock" moment and what it means to a death match wrestler. This was so much fun can't wait to see what NDC has for us for the Insane 8. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Follow Neil on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/neil.cutter.566 On Twitter https://x.com/FearlessNeil Buy one of NDC sick shirts from Death Match World Wide https://www.deathmatchworldwide.com/category/neil-diamond-cutter As always dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow MWR at https://x.com/MWRPod414 Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom sat down with Short and Sweet Bobby V. as he pops his Insane 8 cherry, and we dig into what makes him love the death matches. This is only the tip of Bobby iceberg but was alot of fun. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Follow Bobby on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100028195914759 https://www.facebook.com/bobby.beasley.167 Follow and Subscribe to Bobby Youtube https://youtube.com/@SNSBobbyValentino #supportmidwestwrestling As always dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow MWR at https://x.com/MWRPod414 Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Frontline Pro https://www.facebook.com/frontlineproentertainment Higher Ground Wrestling 08/10 https://www.facebook.com/HigherGroundWrestling Now Thats Wrestling 08/10 https://www.facebook.com/NOWthatsWRESTLING Pro Wrestling King 08/10 https://www.facebook.com/PWKProWrestlingKing All Star Lucha 08/11 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100088314554627 Champ Wrestling 08/10 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094016531363 F1rst 08/11 https://www.facebook.com/f1rstwrestling I Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the offical MWR correspondent https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom sat down with the Son of 1000 maniacs, straight from Truth or Consequences New Mexico, Tylor Sullivan. Has we discussed on the podcast Tylor was one of the first ICW people I was drawn too and it has been a great ride to watch him grow. This was so much and tune in for Tylor Insane 8 prediction. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Follow Tylor on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100028195914759 Follow him on Twitter https://x.com/SullivanTylor Follow and Subscribe to Tylor Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@tylorsullivan1 And the match with Swoggle we talked aboat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2YiKmfnE8U #supportmidwestwrestling As always dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. We got this weeks promo and special appearance from my "CoHost" Tommy Trainwreck. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling In addition to the convo with Tommy we got promo's for the following: ACW https://www.facebook.com/acwwisconsin RCCW 08/02 https://www.facebook.com/RiverCityCW GLCW 06/08-09 https://www.facebook.com/BlizzardBrawl Dreamwave 08/02 https://www.facebook.com/dreamwavewrestling AWF and you know personal friend of the Midwest Wrestling Roundup JJ Rogue will be in the building 08/02 https://www.facebook.com/proAWF Showtime Pro 08/03 https://www.facebook.com/showtimeprowrestling1 UPW 08/03 https://www.facebook.com/upwprowrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the offical MWR correspondent https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom sat down with one of his O.G. favorites Orin Veidt as we talked aboat his history with ICW Milwaukee, leading up to the 2024 Insane 8. Great conversation and I learned a lot for sure and it was fun to go down memory lane with favorites we both enjoyed. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. As referenced in the conversation check Orin legendary (Now ICW MIlwaukee Exclusive) theme song. Devil is Fine by Zeal and Ardor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlGBer0VoF8 Follow Orin on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Orinveidt Follow him on the twitter: https://x.com/OrinVeidt #supportmidwestwrestling As always dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent Eric Freeds https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom and Tommy Trainwreck chopped it up aboat his meteoric rise thru the Deathmatch scene (tune in to find out the timeframe) which culminates with this year's Insane 8. This was a great conversation. Tommy is one of the good ones. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the official MWR correspondent https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Black Label Pro 07/26 https://www.facebook.com/BlackLabelProWrestling St Anarchy 07/26 https://www.facebook.com/STLAnarchy Freelance 07/27 https://www.facebook.com/FreelanceWrestling Frozen Tundra 07/27 https://www.facebook.com/FrozenTundraWrestling One Fall Entertainment 07/27 https://www.facebook.com/onefallentertainment Frontline Pro 07/27 https://www.facebook.com/frontlineproentertainment Glory Pro 07/28 https://www.facebook.com/WeAreGloryPro 2econd Wrestling 07/28 https://www.facebook.com/2econdWrestling #supportmidwestwrestling Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow the offical MWR correspondent https://x.com/EricFreeds Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. Promo's for all companies below and a great ICW Milwaukee promo from Ref Jerry Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. CSW 07/19 https://www.facebook.com/ChicagoStyleWrestling ICW Milwaukee 07/19 https://www.facebook.com/icwmilwaukee Hybrid Wrestling entertainment 07/19 https://www.facebook.com/HWELLC23 Wrestle League 07/19 https://www.facebook.com/wrestleleague City Championship Wrestling 07/19/2024 https://www.facebook.com/CityChampionshipWrestling POWW Entertainement 07/20 https://www.facebook.com/POWWEntertainment Ruthless Pro Wrestling 07/20 https://www.facebook.com/RuthlessProWrestlingOfficial ZOWA 07/20 https://www.facebook.com/zowalive Brew City Wrestling has their show back the Elks Lodge in Waukesha WI 07/20 https://www.facebook.com/BrewCityWrestling1 Magnum Pro 07/20 https://www.facebook.com/MAGNUMWRESTLING Now Thats Wrestling 07/20 https://www.facebook.com/NOWthatsWRESTLING Pro Wrestling Battle Ground 07/20 https://www.facebook.com/ProWrestlingBattleground Destination 6 https://www.facebook.com/Destination6ProWrestling Midwest Champ Wrestling 07/20 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094016531363 We Love Wrestling 07/21 https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling ACW 07/21 https://www.facebook.com/acwwisconsin #supportmidwestwrestling To pick up ICW tix ahead of time hit DYSfunction at https://www.facebook.com/KurtKruegerMilwaukee Follow Jerry at https://www.facebook.com/jerry.gummo Tix are limited so you can order here https://ruthlesspro.ticketleap.com Can't make it like check out on IWTV https://independentwrestling.tv/ Get Tix at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/we-love-wrestling-the-real-deal-tickets Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom and Tommy Trainwreck chopped it up aboat We Love Wrestling upcoming show One Small Step going down at Da Bar Sunday July 21st. Another great conversation and H5T is even more stoked for this show. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Get Tix at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/we-love-wrestling-the-real-deal-tickets Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up High Fivers and High Flyers, I had the pleasure of sitting down with one of the finest "unsigned" commentaries in the game, my good Friend Peapod. Peapod joined me to put over the next Ruthless Pro show Scum of the Earth that and so so so much more. Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. Tix are limited so you can order here https://ruthlesspro.ticketleap.com Can't make it like check out on IWTV https://independentwrestling.tv/ Follow Ruthless Pro at all the socials below https://www.facebook.com/RuthlessProWrestlingOfficial liinks.co/ruthlesspro Follow Peapod on all the socials from the link tree below https://linktr.ee/PeapodCalls4U #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. This we week we have several promo for some hot fire action thru the Midwest with 8 shows all going down Saturday July 13th Super Shogun Wrestling 07/13 https://www.facebook.com/SuperShogunWrestling Below Zero 07/13 https://www.facebook.com/BelowZeroWrestling MAW https://www.facebook.com/MidwestAllStarWrestling UWE 07/13 https://www.facebook.com/UWEPROWRESTLING Independe Pro Wrestling 07/13 https://www.facebook.com/IndependenceProWrestling Absolute Intense Wrestling 07/13 https://www.facebook.com/Aiwrestling WCPW 07/13 https://www.facebook.com/OfficialWCPW Higher Ground Wrestling 06/29 Josiah and Houa https://www.facebook.com/HigherGroundWrestling Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. This we week we have several promo for some hot fire action thru the Midwest. With the holiday coming what we lack in quanity we make up in quality RCCW 07/03-04 https://www.facebook.com/RiverCityCW MIW 07/05-07/06 https://www.facebook.com/miwprowrestling Rugged Pro 07/06 https://www.facebook.com/RuggedProWrestling We Love Wrestling 07/06 https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Get Tix at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/we-love-wrestling-the-real-deal-tickets Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. This we week we have several promo for some hot fire action thru the Midwest Paradise City 06/28 https://www.facebook.com/ParadiseCityWrestling St Louis Anarchy 06/28 https://www.facebook.com/STLAnarch NWA 06/28 https://www.facebook.com/AllHeelWrestling Hybrid Wrestling entertainment 06/28 https://www.facebook.com/HWELLC23 Horror Slam 06/28 https://www.facebook.com/HorrorSlam Freelance 06/28 https://www.facebook.com/FreelanceWrestling AWF 06/29 https://www.facebook.com/proAWF Midwest Champ Wrestling 06/29 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100094016531363 Independe Pro Wrestling 06/29 https://www.facebook.com/IndependenceProWrestling Higher Ground Wrestling 06/29 https://www.facebook.com/HigherGroundWrestling Racine Champ Wrestling 06/29 https://www.facebook.com/RCWenentertainment Northern Lights Wrestling 06/29 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100092758832565 F1rst 06/30 https://www.facebook.com/f1rstwrestling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. If you are listening to this smash this link and please make sure you are subscribed to the We Love Wrestling YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. In addition to all the promo's listed below we have 4 yes 4 reviews for your earholes Independence Pro Wrestling 06/22 https://www.facebook.com/IndependenceProWrestling UPW 06/22 https://www.facebook.com/upwprowrestling Absolute Intense Wrestling 06/22 https://www.facebook.com/Aiwrestling JWA 06/22 https://www.facebook.com/jwatoday Wrestling Reveler 06/22 https://www.facebook.com/PWRevolver Now Thats Wrestling 06/22 https://www.facebook.com/NOWthatsWRESTLING Magnum Pro 06/22 https://www.facebook.com/MAGNUMWRESTLING 2econd Wrestling 06/23 https://www.facebook.com/2econdWrestling Below Zero 06/23 https://www.facebook.com/BelowZeroWrestling Galli Lucha 06/23 https://www.facebook.com/chicagolucha Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. If you are listening to this smash this link and please make sure you are subscribed to the We Love Wrestling YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

Hey High Flyer and High Fivers once again its your boy high5Tom here to let everyone aboat all the hot action here in the Midwest Wrestling scene. In addition to the promo's listed below and another great convo with Ref Jerry. Paradise City 06/13 https://www.facebook.com/ParadiseCityWrestling ICW Milwaukee 06/14 https://www.facebook.com/icwmilwaukee CSW 06/14????? https://www.facebook.com/ChicagoStyleWrestling RCCW 06/14 https://www.facebook.com/RiverCityCW We Love Wrestling 06/15 https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling POWW Entertainement 06/15 https://www.facebook.com/POWWEntertainment AWF 06/15 https://www.facebook.com/proAWF No Regrets 06/15 https://www.facebook.com/noregretswrestlingofficial Dreamwave 06/15 https://www.facebook.com/dreamwavewrestling Brew City Wrestling 06/15 https://www.facebook.com/BrewCityWrestling1 ACW 06/15 https://www.facebook.com/acwwisconsin Frontline Pro 06/15 https://www.facebook.com/frontlineproentertainment Glory Pro 06/16 https://www.facebook.com/WeAreGloryPro Deadlock Pro Wrestling 06/16 https://www.facebook.com/deadlockdpw Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. To pick up ICW tix ahead of time hit DYSfunction at https://www.facebook.com/KurtKruegerMilwaukee Follow Jerry at https://www.facebook.com/jerry.gummo Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

High5Tom and Tommy Trainwreck talked aboat whether or not the moon landing was real, is pluto a planet and ultimately discuss what really is time. That and we dug into a stacked We Love Wrestling Card. Make sure you are following Tommy and We Love Wrestling below Make sure to Follow Tommy at: https://www.facebook.com/TommyxTrainwreck Follow We Love Wrestling at https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveWr3stling Get Tix at https://www.eventbrite.com/e/we-love-wrestling-the-real-deal-tickets Can't make it live are want to dig into the WLW vault subscribe to the Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@WeLoveWr3stling Make sure to follow us on all the socials and our podcast families and partners below. And highfivers make sure to Tune In and Tune out, press play and enjoy because ya know we sure as shit did. #supportmidwestwrestling Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia

What up High Fivers and High Flyers we got rad promo's for all the shows listed below along with reviews of the last 4th Wall and POWW Etertainment shows Freelance 06/06 https://www.facebook.com/FreelanceWrestling Black Label Pro 06/07 https://www.facebook.com/BlackLabelProWrestling ACW 06/08 https://www.facebook.com/acwwisconsin AAW 06/08 https://www.facebook.com/AAWPro To Get RTickets go to aawpro.ticketleap.com GLCW 06/08-09 https://www.facebook.com/BlizzardBrawl SuperWrestlers 06/09 https://www.facebook.com/Thesuperwrestlers Under the Lights 06/09 https://www.facebook.com/UTLEntertainment As stated this is the link for Zach Match with Cole Karter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dizOsa5u6FQ #supportmidwestwrestling Follow Clayton and New Life Records if you like the MWR theme song https://www.facebook.com/newliferecordco Join the MWR facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1244836833095229 Follow Tom at https://twitter.com/High5Tom Follow our Social Media Specialist SJ https://twitter.com/KarnivalofKhaos Follow VGM at https://twitter.com/VisGlobalMedia