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ladies and gentlemen. Welcome once again to the Packernet Podcast. I am your host and resident panelist, as always, Ryan Schlipp. Check us out online, packernet.com Find me on Twitter, pack underscore dad. So, yesterday we did a Caleb thing, because it was brought to my attention, I guess, that these kinds of things are being said, and I mean, it shouldn't be necessarily surprising. I mean, we've seen a lot of dumb things from Les. I mean, we've seen Justin Fields, who was dog crap, and we're being told that the guy was actually very, very good and was just being held back, and all this stupid nonsense was never ever true, as I think we all have come to realize. Shame on those that doubted me, but again, the the Bears are not the only ones having some fantastical ideas, and as I've said the last couple of days, the one that surprised me the most was the Minnesota Vikings, and so I'm more curious than anything to kind of dive around and see what the heck these guys have been doing over here. Again, they're quiet, they've been quiet, which you know, again, everybody's been kind of quiet, nobody's really crossing that line of like talking trash, but everyone's kind of in their own corner getting themselves fired up and in their tight little, their airtight bubbles, so that when you walk into it, it's holy cow, what have you guys been doing over here, which I'm sure they do to us as well, but I figured there's a nice little connection here, because yesterday we talked about the Chicago Bears quarterback and some of the nonsense that's going on, and although I'm not sure exactly what the heck is going on over there in Minnesota, aside from just a very cursory look, I do know that a big part of their belief in everything being different this year is, wait for it, the quarterback. Now, most of us hadn't even considered that this is very similar to when they got Donald, which, yes, did go very, very well. He's still playing at a very high level. I don't think many people expected that, and I don't think that that happens very often. I think that that's exceedingly rare. We'll see if Malik is another one of those, unfortunately, but there does seem to be an underlying confidence that, okay, we needed a quarterback, boom, we got this guy, and again, I don't know if it's so much that Kyler is going to be elite as opposed to JJ, was the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone ever anywhere, and anybody that is even marginally decent at anything is going to get us to where we need to be, because I guess we're just such a good team, we need subpar quarterback play just to be a playoff team, like if we just get to up to subpar, then we're good, but I figure before we kind of attack the issue, I want to find out what exactly it is, what are Vikings fans saying about their quarterback situation, because first of all, I think it's settled, but I, you know, they're at least not 100% going to come out and say that it's settled. The Athletics, Alec Lewis believes the Vikings will measure quarterback JJ McCarthy's development by assessing his accuracy, touch, consistency this summer, by the way. I will say, as Packer fans, we don't want JJ McCarthy to start. The reason being they went out and got this quarterback, Kyler Murray, with the full intention of him starting. There's never a question, JJ is going to be moved, McCarthy is going to be the guy, we're going to find a new quarterback, excuse me, Kyler is going to be the guy, and then we're going to find a new quarterback and move forward that way, unless we can get Kyler to be really good, even then it's kind of iffy, they're probably hoping for a second Sam Darnold situation, then they don't mess it up and get rid of him, but he's 30, and as a mobile quarterback, age is a much bigger issue. He's not quite 30, but he's getting there. Once you start hitting the later years as a mobile quarterback, you have to learn to stand in the pocket and throw, and if you can't, then it's not great. Plus, the size and injury stuff, his, he's not going to be a 40 year old quarterback, it's not going to happen. So, the shelf life here is much shorter than, for example, Sam Darnold. So, with all that said, with the expectation of moving on from McCarthy and moving in a different direction, if. McCarthy starts. It's because, holy crap, he took that step. So that's the only, the only path I see, pending some, you know, injury or whatever, where they start JJ McCarthy over Kyler Murray, which would suck, because that would, that would be bad. So why don't we start here, and I know this guy's like extra biased hypey for the Vikings, but it's still a good spot to kind of be like, all right, what, what, what's what's the vibe over here? What's going on, Jerome's so the storyline of the off season that this is Purple FTW podcast, by the way, if you're interested in supporting, or whatever. I don't know, like it should get hype, and it seems sort of glossed over that the Vikings signed Kyler Murray, who's still getting paid almost 40 million bucks from the Cardinals for $1.3 million and he's Asian, he can do that. The good thing, a two-time Pro Bowl quarterback in his prime, so note number one, they're doing the whole, you know, two-time Pro Bowler thing. In his prime is another one. These are little notes that you can set to the side of what there is to be excited about. Still under 30 with revenge on his mind, as long as he's not playing video games to basically captain this ship, man, whether it's Kyler, whether it's JJ. Yes, it is funny that it transitioned so quickly from, dude, this guy is legitimately, he's legitimately elite, and nobody's talking about it, and that's crazy, or maybe the other guy who's also good don't sound super committed, there. That's interesting. Is JJ McCarthy being thrown under the bus at times? Yes, yes, but quarterback competition, we all know we love JJ. You know what I love more, the Vikings. So whoever it is, whatever it takes, done to them, and also we say we said we just need a captain of the ship, we need somebody to thought he was gonna say Carson Wentz, I was like, please just say Carson Wentz, it'd be hilarious if you also, if that doesn't work, we got Carson Went, skip ahead here just a touch, and with Kyler, this is a chance for some full on career rehab, right. Justin Jefferson, his corner is going to be good to go, and his time with Arizona didn't end the greatest, right? You know, got his contract, even though he's playing his video game. Still never going to forgive Steve Keim, but last year Kyler Murray, you know, five games before he got injured, he did some stuffings and things, you know, completed 68% was best, which Kyler doesn't get enough credit for being an accurate thrower. The football was good to go, and I know a lot has been made, is like, well, what about his a dot has averaged up the targets, but now last couple years, have you seen the Arizona offense? Like, there has nothing been there's to be fair, the reason that matters is because if you're going to talk accuracy, you kind of have to look at it as an accuracy per area of the field thing, right? Because if, if the a dot, the average depth of target is the reason for the accuracy, then you're not actually that accurate of a quarterback, you just throw easier passes. I'm not saying that's the case, but that's the reason that gets brought up. Ben, there's never been a more podunk checkdown offense since watching like JV football. It's essentially what it is, man. But Kyler went two and three as a starter. Jabroni Brisket went one and 15, by the way, or one at 11, plus enough, really good at math, yeah, but Kyler is on the full on career rehab trajectory, and the odds reflect that, in terms of comeback player of the year. Now, Mahomes is probably just gonna be handed the trophy, right, because ACL pretty much probably, yeah, come back all that good stuff, he's the prohibitive favorite across all of the books. Kyler is interestingly enough coming in second, either plus 600 so six to one, you know, 550 in a couple places as well. And I know that everyone's pissing, Mona, like, well, why is Michael Parsons odd so low? Parsons not a quarterback. Parsons tore his knee up late in the season, so there's no guarantee that he's going to be back early in the season, and may not even be himself by mid season. It is what it is, so that's why his odds are longer. Plus, he's not a quarterback, plus, like you said, Pat Mahomes. Good luck beating Pat Mahomes. Pat, I mean, Pat, Pat Mahomes doesn't even need to actually be like a top 10 quarterback, you can see that already everybody already putting him in the top two as far as the rankings, like today, even though he hasn't been in four three years since he's been, I think you'd have to go back four years before he'd be in the top three conversation, but he just needs. To come back and have a winning football team and look like Pat Mahomes, and he will win Comeback Player of the Year, Kyler Murray. If Pat Mahomes doesn't do that, Kyler Murray does make sense to be the next best in line, because he's a quarterback, and if they can make him look good, which again, he doesn't need to be like, you know, PFF grade, top 10-ish. He needs to be healthy the whole year. The Vikings need to have a winning record and needs to look like it's on the back of Kyler Murray, and if they do that, and Pat McHale's isn't in the way, he will win that again. You could say, well, I mean, that's pretty impressive that he is ahead of Michael Parsons, that does say something, maybe kind of, but very much to his point. Micah Parsons is going to have a very difficult time when you're going to miss at least the first four games of the season to dominate to such a degree, and basically the only thing that matters here in this conversation, if we're talking about comeback player of the year, is stay healthy, get a bunch of sacks. I mean, good luck getting the number of sacks you need minus an entire quarter of the season. So, yeah, I mean, I guess, but if you remove Micah from the equation, who is Kyler ahead of in the odds? Malik Neighbors, Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson. Basically, it's a two-man race with Pat Mahomes at the top, and then Kyler, if he can play, and Mahomes, you know, if he gets hurt, then we'll just hand it to Kyler. And if Kyler can't do it, then Micah has a chance. And the fact that Micah is ahead of all these other guys, which makes sense, have not even having a full season, I don't necessarily know everybody else's situation, but Deshaun Watson isn't even guaranteed to be the starting quarterback, although his odds are way off. Basically, it's not a very large pool, so you know to look at and be like, well, he has the second best comeback odds. I'm not necessarily saying he's doing this, but to use that as evidence that, like, Vegas believes he's going to have a great year, it's an unbelievably small pool of people that could even be considered for this award, because he's going to have a truncated amount of time to do some damage. You have Malik Neighbors, Daniel Jones, Deshaun Watson. Why is Watson on there? It was, but Kyler, second place at getting around six to one. I do think it is Mahomes award to lose, but you know, the media does love a good story, and if and when Kyler Murray is, you know, he wants a starting job and just absolutely lights it up with this freaking offense, which there's gonna have a rededication in the run game. Kyler still has enough mobility where it's a threat to the defense. You got Jefferson, Addison, and Jennings. This offensive line should be good to go, because Darrisaw's leg hopefully won't fall off this season. And then you got Jackson, whoo, Blake Brandle, the solid veteran, getting acclimated at center. Will Fries going to prove that he's worth, hey dirty baby, I'm worth the money. Don't you worry, I said, hey, okay, we got some fries. All right, all right, all right, let's, let's, let's calm down, let's go ahead and skip a little bit here. It's offense, I know that people like to poo poo on the Vikings, and I know that we generally have a very sunny disposition when it comes to the Vikings, but if you're not drinking the purple Kool-Aid, honestly, it takes a special type of hater and loser to look at this offensive unit and be like child, please, and not even mention the defense across, which is going to be hellacious, is going to be extremely good at getting their ass off the field, good field position, taking the ball away, everything's gonna be good. So I honestly do believe that Kyler, you know, everyone and their mom, all Cardinals fan, you know, blaming Kyler for everything, but it's okay. It's okay, he can take the heat, he's gonna be motivated, he's gonna be mobile, agile, hostile. Give me all the six to one, baby. Just I feel like Kyler's on that comeback train and is going to be good to go, right? All right, good enough. So that's a position, and I look again as a Packer fan, even though they are in the division, and, but we got a lot to cover, and a lot to talk about, and all that stuff, and I think for the most part we've been looking at the NFC North through a 30,000 foot view. I haven't spent a lot of my life looking at Kyler Murray and his career, occasionally dabble over the years, just kind of like, oh, what's he, oh, he's, he's really good now, oh, he sucks now. Oh, whatever. I think kind of, kind of the big picture plan that I had here was let's look at Kyler, because that's another big thing. I don't want to go super in depth. We may have to, if I can't, you know, make this a big enough podcast in and of itself. And then perhaps we'll see, I don't, I don't want you know, sometimes I like my themes maybe a little bit more than I should, but the thought would be tomorrow we would do something similar with the Lions with the final crescendo, and maybe we'll just skip part three and go straight to the crescendo, being let's just look at the NFC North quarterbacks, and let's be honest about it. Let's look at golf, let's look at Kyler, let's look at Kayla. And then love, I don't know if we need to do this for the Lions, because I don't know that a lot of Lions fans are sitting around going, "Dude, we're going to be dope because of our quarterback. Last I remember, they started to fall out of love with him a little bit, but maybe that's the best. I'll do a tiny bit of digging to see if there's some golf hype. There probably is, and if there is, then we'll, we'll play this game as well, just so we can kind of get the receipts, and then hear specifically the arguments being made for them, and then we'll, and then again we will crescendo. What the heck does that word mean? Boy, I had no chance of spelling that crescendo, c r e s c r e s c e n d o, a gradual increase in loudness, force, or intensity. See, that's not what I was going for. So, a crescendo is the swelling, it's not the.. so now we're doing the crescendo. This is the swelling portion. Should stop using both of those words, swelling and crescendo. Well, see, I didn't want that to be the.. I didn't want that to be the word I was looking for. There's got to be a different word. Other related terms: fortissimo, sforzando, and tutti. Fortissimo is what we're going to go for, so we'll do the, we'll do the crescendo now, and then it'll get to the fortissimo. Definitely not the other thing, also not 2t We're not going to do a 2t We, there will be no two ting here on the Packer Nut Podcast. But let's take a break, and we'll be right back, you right, let's move over here. This is Menace, excuse me, Purple Daily, Minnesota Vikings chemistry. It is a Q and A segment, I believe. I don't know, but this.. this first portion is Brian continues and says, let me get serious now. The national media narrative on Kyler Murray is that his deep ball has regressed, but a quarterback's downfield accuracy is heavily tied to his targets. When he had DeAndre Hopkins a few years ago, Kyler was one of the better deep ball throwers. First of all, I don't think that's true at all. We'll get into the actual breaking these things down, but just to be clear, you would have to prove that to me. That's one of those things people on social media like to do, where they say things that they think sound smart without having any regard for whether or not you have to look that up. I don't think that that's true. Why? I mean, why would that be the case? I mean, the assumption is, well, if you got somebody wide open or whatever, but that's kind of irrelevant, and the stats don't really take that into account. It's just a question of whether or not you throw a good ball, and saying, well, if you look back a few years ago to when he had this person, then, then, yeah, but you're kind of, you're not really answering the question, you're just kind of giving a different explanation for it, while acknowledging that there has been regression. Yeah, well, a few years ago it was good. I know that's the entire point. It was good, and now it's not good. And you're saying that it's, it's only because of the players, and I'm not saying there can't be some kind of a relationship there. Maybe it goes to confidence, or, you know, I don't know, could also be things like offensive line, you know, if you're throwing on the run in a panic, as opposed to a comfortable pocket, there can be all kinds of variables, but on some level you're going to have to actually prove that correlation, which is again a lot of work to do, significantly less now with AI, but I doubt anybody's actually going to bother doing that, as opposed to just saying it because it sounds good in football with Justin Jefferson and the best supporting cast of his career in Minnesota. Is it creative to prove that as well? I don't know that that's true, but perhaps easy to think Kyler can regain that accuracy and launch himself right back into the MVP conversation, like in 2020 This is how you know that somebody's just saying stuff when, when we go from 'trust me, bro, I'm just being rational' to 'Should we be talking MVP? Why would we go to MVP again? It's not that it's impossible, but why would your mind be sitting there? Why, why, why would that be the case? I mean, if we say it's possible for all 32 quarterbacks, and then work backwards, how far do we get before Kyler gets taken off that list, I. You know, if we're going off of most likely, I don't think he's at or near the top. He won with D Hop, if he stays healthy for the majority of the season. That is where Judd's camp notes come into play. I gotta see the arm strength, because you know he's not wrong. Look, like we have seen, you might be wrong, but I guess we don't know that highlights of Kyler through the years with Cardinals, with some nice deep passes. In fact, again, kind of begging the question here. The question is, is it regressing right? So, if you go back and say, well, if you look back several years ago, it looked good. That doesn't answer the question of is it regressing. If I'm not mistaken, he beat the Vikings on a deep pass to the late Rondelle Moore in a game. So I'm curious to see what the arm strength is now, and again, the question wasn't about strength, although that would be a part of it. It was specifically about accuracy, which is a different thing. Doesn't have to be. I mean, if you don't have the strength and the accuracy of getting the ball to where it needs to be, as opposed to falling short, naturally follows. But now we're just kind of answering why. But he may have strength and not accuracy, so he. so, in other words, what is probably going to happen that doesn't answer the question is he's going to get in cap, he's going to launch a 55 yard ball, and everybody from Purple Daily is going to go, "Well, that answers the question. Everybody was talking about his arm strength, and there it is. No, no, that's not exactly what was being questioned. It was his deep ball accuracy, which is a different thing, and if it was just, but it's weird, because was it the receivers, was it the play calling, because he still had play calling, what the hell does that have to do with his accuracy, or arm strength, for that matter, some pretty good receivers, or so we thought with the Cardinals, but it definitely dissipated, so stage one is what I would say, stage, so this, this theory, like, like the downfield theory of he just has, he's had bad targets, and I'm maybe I'm wrong on this, but I feel like that logic could apply for sure to the 25 plus yard air throws, right? So, all right, this is kind of a 5050 ball. I'm putting the ball way down the field, and over the last four years on passes that travel 25 plus yards in the air down the field of all the qualified quarterbacks, like the, like the 45 qualified quarterbacks, Tyler is dead last incompletion percentage, 21% on passes that travel 25 or more yards. I wasn't going to look at it quite yet, because that was going to be more of a tomorrow or two days thing, but I'm staring at he's looking at something else, because it's 25 yards, he's probably over at Pro Football Reference or something. I'm looking at PFF, which is 20 plus yards, and I'm not looking at the rest of the field, but I can see he has a 76 grade, which sounds good, but this is when you're talking deep balls, this is the area where you've probably got five quarterbacks with a 99 grade, you've got the, you know, probably 20 in the 90s, so being at a 75 he's going to be relatively low. His completion percentage is at 37.5% which that usually is low. So, I can't speak to where that's at, but I'm guessing this is not very good compared to the rest of the league. Yards in the air, yeah, dead last in expected points added per attempt, that's bad. And dead last in yards per attempt, you could say. Well, well, that doesn't even make any sense. You wouldn't look at yards per attempt when you're already looking at 25 I mean, that's kind of just a weird anomaly, I guess. Well, I guess, and again, this is, there are better ways to do this than yards per attempt, if you were really concerned, but if it's 25 plus as the final thing, you could say that he has a weak arm because everybody else has these 60 yard, 50 yard throws, and his, his or more in the 2530 range. He's really not airing it out as much. You could say that, but that doesn't even necessarily answer that question. I think that's just a stupid stat to look at yards per attempt when you're looking at the, when you're looking specifically at yardage, yeah, I mean, give them a, give them a reliable target down the field. Here's where this is, this is where Judd's camp notes are going to come into play even more. It's the 10 plus yards in the air being bad that makes me more nervous, because that now includes the intermediate stuff, kind of the like the deep intermediate, those in cut routes that Kevin O'Connell loves. They're doing my homework for me. I appreciate this. Right, since 2022 on passes and going back to 2022 this encompasses some of his good years. The travel 10 or more yards down the field, Kyler dead last in expected points added per attempt. Yeah, that's 41st out of 43 in yards per attempt, and 36 out of 43 in completion percentage. The yards per attempt make a little bit more sense there, but still, it's even in general, I think yards per attempt is kind of a stupid stat. The only time I would really care is if it was exceedingly high or exceedingly low, that's where you kind of put a little asterisk next to some things like accuracy, and say, okay, we need to kind of do a little bit extra digging, but I genuinely don't care all that much. Yes, having Jefferson, Addison, Juan Jennings is going to help him, and any other quarterback, but like those are valid concerns over the past few years that we need to see what that looks like throughout mini camp, training camp, OTAs, etc. but do we think so? I guess let's go back to 2024 with Donald. You pretty quickly picked up on, don't, don't start. Don't listen. Here is another thing that we're going to have to, again, this, this is kind of just immersing ourselves in, like, what is the conversation over here? What are we doing? What I'm not going to tolerate is, yeah, but we said this about Donald. Darnold was a one-off. Okay, now I am not saying that Kyler, who's already unlike Darnold, demonstrated an ability to be a very good quarterback, if he got, if he was healthy in Arizona, he might have been good this year in Arizona. And I think Kevin O'Connell is a good coach, a good play caller, they have a good offensive line, they have good wide receivers, or mostly good offensive line, and at least one good wide receiver. There's every reason to believe that this could be one of his up years in a career that's been very like really good, really bad, really good, really bad. What I'm not going to do is play this game where you know, look at what happened with Donald, and so we should expect that to be a thing that happens all the time. That is a once in a lifetime situation. What happened with Arnold on in watching him at training camp? He had a great deep ball, like his depot is, he has a very good impeccable. He always did his medium range stuff was okay. I mean, it wasn't a disaster, but it certainly was not great. But if you have issues with the deep ball and you have issues with what you just talked about, which is the intermediate stuff. What would you say you do here? So, like, that's going to be really intriguing to watch. It seems to me like, like one or the other has to be efficient, and quite frankly, if I only can take one, I'm probably taking the mid-range stuff, because those plays present themselves a lot more, like I mean, just, just as a, so if we look at it, and this is going to be pretty, I don't know, that this, let me look at Jordan Love real quick, because this feels a little off, and again, his seems like he's known for throwing a lot of short passes, yeah, so, and Jordan's probably not a good example either, because I think he throws more deep balls than your average quarterback, but so he's at 15% of his passes are 20 plus, 20% of his passes are in the 10 to 19 yard range, so again, that's probably closer than most who would throw probably less deep balls for Kyler, you're looking at nine compared to 17, so yes, of course, you want the 17% to show out better than the 10% For reference, Jordan Love has a 94 passing grade on deep passes, a 91 passing grade on medium passes, 84 on short, and then 62 at behind the line of scrimmage. Kyler is 7174 6976 I'm not even gonna tell you directionally which way we're going, because it doesn't matter. He's just like a mid 70s across the board, and 41% of his passes are the zero to nine yards, with 24% being behind the line of scrimmage, so 63% of his passes came nine yards or less, and for Jordan Love it was, let's see, 55% so still a big chunk, but again you got 35% beyond that, with Kyler Murray sitting at like 25% of his passes, which is pretty crazy, one in four passes traveled 10 yards or more, Jordan was closer to one in three, and about 50% of Justin Jefferson's receptions came 10 yards or further down the field. Anywho, sorry, let's continue, but yes, that will be, that'll be very interesting to see. And you can always say, hey, look, I mean, with the Vikings, you're gonna have a top three receiver tandem that's really, really good, and that's, you know, the this is another thing that all four NFC North teams. Do is they, I think, over inflate. I don't want to sit here and say except the Packers, but I do think accept the Packers, because I don't think a lot of Packer fans, and I've talked to, if anything, they undersell the group. Well, Watson's never healthy, and Reed's no good, he's going to get traded and golden, and they're the underrated group in my mind, but top three receiver tandem. What are you talking about? Again, this is what I said. Remember when I told you that they massively overrate Addison? This is fricking crazy to me, that you think you have a top three. You don't even have a top three receiver anymore. This Justin Jefferson is the Pat Mahomes of wide receivers, he is a very good receiver who hasn't been a top receiver in three years, but everybody still says he's a top receiver, and yeah, maybe he bounces back, that's possible, but also until you do, I don't think I'm going to call you a top guy anymore, he ranked 14th last year as a receiver below Davante Adams. Now, I mean, no offense to Devonte, but I mean we know Devonte is slowly drifting in his 30s. Stefan Diggs has fallen off faster than Devonte, by the way. Christian Watson ranked 11th, so we have Christian Watson on this team who graded out higher than Justin Jefferson last year, and again, blame the quarterback all you want, that's fine, but until you actually prove it on the field, I'm not going to just say, "Oh no, he's still the top receiver. By the way, Pookan Akua, criminally underrated, everybody knows Pooka is good, he had like a 96 receiving grade, I don't think I don't think Jefferson has ever had that, and by the way, I was wrong. I was looking at Stefan Diggs; he ranked 17th last year. Justin Jefferson, his best year ever was a 91 so his grades have been 9190 9091, The last, then it dropped to an 88 which is still very good, but first time he's ever been below that, and then an 80 in 2025 that is a shocking drop off. Puka Nakua had a 96 receiving grade, that is better than than Jefferson has ever been by a mile. Jackson Smith and Jigba had a 93 grade, that's better than Jefferson has ever been, ever. So we still talk about Justin Jefferson, because again we fail to recalibrate, but he's not up there anymore. By the way, Aman Ross St. Brown, the last four years, 9091 9091 Aman Ross St. Brown has been as good as Justin Jefferson for four straight years. In other words, he's having a four year stretch that Jefferson had his first four years and is currently the better wide receiver in the NFC North. So, Jefferson isn't even the best receiver in the NFC North anymore. In fact, again, if we're just going off of last year, if we look at the did it, do, do, do. Let's, this would have been easier to just not do this. NFC North, Aman Ross St. Brown, then Christian Watson, then Justin Jefferson, with Luther Burden being nipping at his heels with a 78 great Romeo had a 77 almost as good as Justin Jefferson, Jameson Williams at a 77 I mean that that group is all right there with a minor gap between Jefferson and Watson, 80 to an 84 and then Aman Rah by himself at a 91 The only real blue chip wide receiver in the NFC North right now is Aman Raw St. Brown, until Justin Jefferson proves that last year was an anomaly, I had some stuff going on, our quarterback sucked, whatever, but I'm back fine, but again, until you prove that, and it's been, you have to go back not to 2025 or 2024 but to 2023 as the last time you had a 90 receiving grade, and again Pooka had almost 100 receiving grades. That's one of the best receiving grades that any receiver. I don't know that Devonte has ever had a grade like that, but yet we're still going to sit here and allow Vikings fans to talk about Justin Jefferson as though he is the premier receiver in the NFL, and that you have a top three receiving group, bro. You absolutely freaking do not. That is, that is an.. that is an absolute joke that you believe you have a top three receiving core, and.. and if you try to add your bum tight end to that, I'm gonna laugh in your face. I'm sorry, you might have the fourth best receiving core in the NFC North. I think you have the fourth best tight end again. You're, you're, when you, when you look at not just the, the top end, but the talent. I mean, if you look at Detroit, they've got Sam LaPorta, Jameson Williams, Amon Ra, St. Brown. I would take that. Met over Jefferson Addison and TJ Hawkinson, for reference, Jefferson 80 grade, Addison 61 which is the second lowest wide receiver grade. I think we already covered this in the entire NFC North, also ahead of Cole Commet, but that's kind of irrelevant at this point, but as far as wide receivers, just the second lowest, and then as far as tight ends, TJ Hawkinson is the lowest, not including Cole Commit, because he's not a number one tight end. It goes Coast and Loveland, then Sam Laporta, then Tucker Kraft, in terms of receiving grades, with all three of them being relatively close, 8683 and 83 between La Porta and Kraft, Hawkinson 62 he's not in the same category. Hawkinson is not good. There are three good tight ends, and Hawkinson is not one of them. So I would take Detroit without hesitation. Let's look at Chicago. Chicago has Colston Loveland, who is the, according to receiving grade, the second best receiver period in the NFC North. He was very good last year, had almost 1000 yards as a tight end at 906 Roma Dunes, a with a 71 grade, and Luther Burton with a 78 Now, you could argue that Jefferson currently is better and probably bounces back even more. So, would you rather have that? Honestly, no, because you can have one Justin Jefferson with a terrible supporting cast and a subpar tight end, and no real running backs to speak of, which we're not even discussing, or you can have an ascending a doomsday, an ascending burden, and a guy that could potentially be the top tight end in football here at Colston Loveland. Of course, I'm taking Chicago's group over Minnesota's group, and then you get to Green Bay. Well, as I said, Christian Watson already graded out higher than Justin Jefferson last year, and we have Matthew Golden, who we barely even got to see this past year, who almost graded out as well as Justin Jefferson did. He graded out better than Jalen Naylor and Jordan Addison. Obviously, there are other two receivers that were there, Naylor now a Raider, but it doesn't matter. They don't have good wide receivers, and then Tucker Kraft, who again is significantly better than what they have. The Minnesota Vikings have the fourth best receiving group. They're not even top three in the NFC North, and he's talking about, say that again, with the Vikings, you're going to have a top three receiver tandem that's really, really good. Oh my lord, you might have a bottom three receiver tandem. Dude, shut up. I mean, not really. Justin Jefferson is going to preclude that, but it's just.. it's not good. It's just not you. You have to get Justin Jefferson back to being a really good receiver. And again, even then, in today's NFL, he's not.. I don't know that he's going to be top five, because there's so many really, really good receivers. It's going to be hard for him to surpass Aman Ross St. Brown, who is currently playing at a level that Justin Jefferson played at at his best. Jamar Chase is already up there. Jackson Smith and Jigba and Pooka are already better receivers than Justin Jefferson, as I said, ever was. Drake London is up in that category right now. Pickens is up in there, there's a lot of guys that are that are kind of playing in that range. I think at best he gets back to what he was and ends up being third, but in a pile of probably three to four other guys that are about as good, but probably not as good as Jackson Smith and Jigba and Pooka Nakua. And again, I don't, I don't think there's any real reason to believe, pending Amon Ra falling off, that he, like, massively surpasses Aman Raw St. Brown. So, again, Justin Jefferson, I will, I will say this again, is the Pat Mahomes of wide receivers. He took the title of being the top receiver. And listen, I've always been flattering of Justin Jefferson, all right, because I, because I tell the truth, and if it's true, then I say it's true. He has been a very good receiver. I've always said he is a very good receiver. I have at times called him probably the best receiver, but this, this is not 2021 by the way. I don't know if he's ever been better than third. If you go back, I'm going back to 2020 now. Yeah, and that's that's the thing with being so, so, because he's been consistently like top three, top five. I've said he's like the best in football, but he's, I don't think he's been better than third. Justin Jefferson in 2020 was behind Stefan Diggs and Devonte Adams. In 2021 he was behind Devonte Adams and Cooper Cup. In 2022 he was, he dropped a fifth from third, and was behind Amon Ra, Devonte Adams, Jalen Naylor, and Tyreke Hill, which I mean, that's three years in a row, Devonte was ahead of them. 2023 he is fourth behind Amon Ra. And an Iuk and Tyreek Hill, and then again the fall off can begins in 2024 so he was top three, then the last, then the next two years, 2022 and 2023 he was top five, and now he in 2024 drops to top 10, being eighth behind T Higgins, Drake London, Aman Raw St Brown, Mike Evans, AJ Brown, Nico Collins, and new to the scene, Puka Nakua. By the way, in this year you had Nico Collins with a 92 grade, which again Justin Jefferson has never had. And then in 2025 is when you have him dropping out of the top 10, not even top 15, he becomes a top 20 receiver, ranking 17th. Hilariously, his 80 pff receiving grade is closer to Michael Wilson of Arizona than it is to Aman Ross St. Brown in the same division. I bring that up, obviously, because his new quarterback, it was in Arizona, so anywho, let's take our final break, and we'll be right back. And I'll say this just to start off this other site, but first of all, the Purple Daily, they do a good job being much more centered, and they have been this whole time. The top three thing kind of set me off, obviously, but, but for the most part, the conversation is centered around, you know, we'll have to see where he's at, and if he's any good. The fella in the middle here, I don't know their names, but he brings up a good point. I won't play the whole audio, but he's he's looking at 2021 and saying this is what Tyler's best year was, and he's going to go through how good it was as a point of being excited toward him, or whatever, or what he's capable of, I should say, and he brings up as a counterpoint to his point before he gets started, as a caveat, he knows that this is a very long time ago, five years as an eternity in the NFL, and brings up Deshaun Watson. If you remember, Deshaun Watson was the dude in Houston. He was freaking amazing as a quarterback. It feels like that never happened. It was such an eternity ago, another world ago, because, considering how much he gets made fun of for being garbage, he was unbelievably good as a quarterback, but if you were to try to convince anybody that he is good or could be good, as opposed to this dude fell, I can't explain it, but it's over. It just goes to show five years is an eternity, and without playing this, I'll just add one final caveat, and that is, you know, the NFL sometimes speaks to us and tells us what they think, then sometimes they get it wrong, clearly. But the Vikings did not inherit a guy that the NFL believes is elite. The Arizona Cardinals are paying him to play for another team right now, paying him a massive amount of money to play for the Vikings, and the Vikings invested like a million dollars to get them. They paid nothing for him, and anybody could have gotten him for that. And the Vikings just let him walk in. I don't think there is a single team out of 32 that believes in Kyler Murray anymore, and I think that's evident by the way that this whole thing is panning out. There was not a massive market, there was not a bidding war for him, there was nothing. They, they are paying a huge amount of money to let him play somewhere else, and this obviously ties into the Jefferson thing as well, because not only Vikings fans, but I'm sure Packer fans will listen and say, "Oh, come on, of course he's elite. And again, I believe he - I mean, he's young enough that I'm sure he'll have a bounce back this year in a better situation. My point is things change in the NFL, and we don't change with it fast enough. The Pat Mahomes thing, the Justin Jefferson thing, things change rapidly, and we constantly.. but this is where free agency gets stupid, because people will hear big names and go, 'Oh, you gotta get him. Not realizing he hasn't been a thing in three, four years. This is also why I don't think Pooka gets his proper due, because I mean, we know Pook is good, but I mean, you know, he's not Jocelyn Jefferson, bro. Come on, stop it. The torch has been passed, and Puka is what Justin Jefferson never was. And this is with all due full respect to Jefferson, who I have been. If you're a Vikings fan and you've been listening a while, you need to acknowledge I have been very flattering to Jefferson. In fact, when I talk about top receivers, he's always my go-to, and I believe he can get back to like a 90 grade this year. It's entirely possible, but I think he's going to try to fight to get back into top five. At a minimum, I would guess he gets back to top 10, but it's also possible that his reign is over, and he is just a good receiver, not a great receiver. And as Packer fans, I need you to understand a couple things. When I try to get people to understand the gap in understanding here, in other words, we put Justin Jefferson on God tier, and Watson is good, but he hasn't really. Reach that level, like he's a solid guy. We need a number one. Watson was above him, better than him, higher category. And the fact that he was 11th to be a top 10 receiver is incredible. It is, there are so many elite receivers, it is hard to crack the top 10. He was 11th, Justin Jefferson was 17th. The inability for Packer fans to grasp this, I think, fully, and I say this partially to myself, because it's, it's, it feels impossible, but we don't fully appreciate how good Watson was this past year, not, and this isn't even necessarily AC, he's been good this whole time. Like I said, he had a breakout, he came back from injury and was like, holy, the same same with Tucker, except it's the opposite with Tucker. Everybody always thought Tucker was great, and I was like, you guys are overrating Tucker. And then he became the beast that everybody said he always was. Now I think he's still overrated, where people say he's the number one tight end. I think he could be, and he's in a conversation with a pile of tight ends, including two others in our own division, Colston Loveland and Sam La Porta, but I'm not, I'm not really interested in fighting that battle, because he's a very good tight end, and you know, if he ends up being the fifth best instead of the number one, I'm, you know, whatever. Fine. Just call him the best. I don't, I don't really care. It's not worth fighting over, but there is a severe lack of understanding how good Christian Watson was in the limited time that we saw him. By the way, he came back healthy and just played, so we might have a top 10 receiver all year if he can stay healthy, not to mention hopefully a breakout gold, and not to mention Tucker Kraft continuing to ascend, hopefully, or at least maintaining his position that he was at last year. You want to talk about top three receiving duo, or a group, or whatever? I don't know that the Packers crack that, but boy, do they have a good one. They're at least fighting in a very tough division to be the best receiving group in the NFC North, which is again going to be very difficult when you have Aman Rah Saint Brown and Sam La Porta. We're going to have to rely on depth, which the Bears also have, so they're also going to be better than the Bears. So, in order to be the best in the division, you have to be very good and very deep, and that's not going to be easy to do, but this is a to go off and complete my tangent that has nothing to do with the original topic. This is a very good and underrated group of receivers. I think this is a very good take here too. I think his name is Jud. I'm not sure, but this is this is this is essentially, I think they do a very good job of putting things in their proper context, the way that I try to do, and to try to step back and be like, okay, let's, let's be calm, and let's think about this. He highlights specifically, sort of the fan problem here, because it's funny when you're, when you know a guy and he was a big name player, and he gets signed by the team that you cover a lot of times, you, you go in thinking that the highlights that you've seen are him, or what you've heard is him, and then you find out it's different. Exactly right, exactly right. And that could be positive or negative, right. This is why the Kyler Murray thing is probably so polarizing, because if you're a Vikings fan, you think highlights, and if you're a Packers fan, you think Call of Duty, right? Do you think the guy's a freaking bum and a lazy in and wait a minute? I don't know how Call of Duty works, but don't they have certain, like, releases or whatever? We gotta, I want to see something long-running NFL meme that Kyler Murray tends to play worse after a new Call of Duty game comes out, or during a big Call of Duty event like Double XP weekends. Hold on, wait for it. So, probably not September. When is our next game? Oh no, is it late? Oh, november 15. Yeah, that might. So, we might have missed it. According to this, mid October is the highest risk period for a new Call of Duty drop. There's also there are weekends for double XP. This is so funny that we're going to be able to make fun of them for this, but apparently they don't announce that until a few days or like a week until presumably the Thanksgiving period is when they're going to be having some kind of events, and we play the Vikings november 15, so probably too early. Dang it, when do the.. what does the Vikings get? Who's.. who's.. I hope it's not the Bears. So mid October they've got the Saints, which would be hilarious if they dropped that one, possibly the Colts. That's kind of late October, and then you've got the Thanksgiving time, which would be roughly ers, Falcons. Yeah. Oh, well, we'll have fun with it. I think we can maybe end on this. No, this is a very long video, and there's plenty of other Kyler stuff, but just again, just trying to get a general vibe on this one other thing that was. Mentioned as a person that called in or wrote into their show and talked about the potential problems with a, as the writer put it, a Kevin Hart-sized quarterback playing in cold weather. Now that's a very good point, obviously it is a dome team, but they have to play two games in, well, I guess one in Green Bay, which I think is, uh, when is that? Yeah, the first one is there, so that actually works in our, then, yeah, the november 15, so that that works massively in our favor. Let me take a peek at their schedule here. So, when is it going to start getting cold, probably not till October. Warm weather, warm weather, pretty much everybody's a freaking dome now. Lions are a dome, Buffalo, but that's at home. Yeah, so I mean, they don't play a cold weather game, I think until november 15 against the Packers. They play the Patriots in New England december 10. I'm trying to remember who has a dome and who doesn't, Patriots, I don't believe do they play the Jets january 3, so I think those are their only cold weather games, but still worth mentioning, and obviously by virtue of how cold weather works, these are all later in the season, so if you have an injury-prone smaller quarterback that has already taken his lumps, now has to start playing in cold weather games. You could see a situation where the Minnesota Vikings possibly get off to a hot start, but similar to what you see with older quarterbacks, they start to diminish toward the end of the season. This is why, by the way, Green Bay always talks about how they like to get bigger guys, and they've always kind of liked getting bigger guys, in part just as a general NFL theory, but also because of the cold weather situation, and even if you think you're not a cold weather team because you have a dome, you still have to travel, you're still gonna have to play in it, and theoretically, and hopefully you're going to struggle to get through the later portion of the season and stay resilient as it starts getting colder, so hopefully that does end up being a bit of a hindrance. All right, so here's the plan, tentatively moving forward. I'm going to do some general due diligence today to see if Lions fans are hyping up golf. I'm guessing there has to be some. On one hand, you've got like the I think if you, if you just had a room full of Lions fans, they're probably not hyping up Goff a ton. They feel like he's maybe kind of holding them back or something. I don't know, but if you were to have an NFC North discussion about Jordan Love and Caleb and who's the best quarterback, I'm guessing you'd see plenty of Lions fans come out and say, give me a frickin' break, it's golf, and that's all I need, that's all I need to go off of. So I will see if I can find some of that. We will discuss that quarterback situation and how they feel about him, and then that will.. what the heck was the word for Flino? I don't remember something Italian and Effie. We'll do our breakdown of my thoughts again, kind of like I've done before, in terms of I don't want to go in, find where Jordan is the best, pretend that those are the best stats, and then say, ha ha, we win. I want to start with the stats and then go find them and then rank them accordingly. Start from a standpoint of, here's what I think makes you kind of like what Colin Coward did, but he did it like an idiot. Start with your criteria, and then go look at the quarterbacks. But I'm going to leave it at that for today. I will talk to you all later. 

ladies and gentlemen. Welcome once again to the Packernet Podcast. I am your host and resident panelist, as always, Ryan Schlipp. Check us out online, packernet.com Find me on Twitter, pack underscore dad. So, yesterday we did a Caleb thing, because it was brought to my attention, I guess, that these kinds of things are being said, and I mean, it shouldn't be necessarily surprising. I mean, we've seen a lot of dumb things from Les. I mean, we've seen Justin Fields, who was dog crap, and we're being told that the guy was actually very, very good and was just being held back, and all this stupid nonsense was never ever true, as I think we all have come to realize. Shame on those that doubted me, but again, the the Bears are not the only ones having some fantastical ideas, and as I've said the last couple of days, the one that surprised me the most was the Minnesota Vikings, and so I'm more curious than anything to kind of dive around and see what the heck these guys have been doing over here. Again, they're quiet, they've been quiet, which you know, again, everybody's been kind of quiet, nobody's really crossing that line of like talking trash, but everyone's kind of in their own corner getting themselves fired up and in their tight little, their airtight bubbles, so that when you walk into it, it's holy cow, what have you guys been doing over here, which I'm sure they do to us as well, but I figured there's a nice little connection here, because yesterday we talked about the Chicago Bears quarterback and some of the nonsense that's going on, and although I'm not sure exactly what the heck is going on over there in Minnesota, aside from just a very cursory look, I do know that a big part of their belief in everything being different this year is, wait for it, the quarterback. Now, most of us hadn't even considered that this is very similar to when they got Donald, which, yes, did go very, very well. He's still playing at a very high level. I don't think many people expected that, and I don't think that that happens very often. I think that that's exceedingly rare. We'll see if Malik is another one of those, unfortunately, but there does seem to be an underlying confidence that, okay, we needed a quarterback, boom, we got this guy, and again, I don't know if it's so much that Kyler is going to be elite as opposed to JJ, was the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone ever anywhere, and anybody that is even marginally decent at anything is going to get us to where we need to be, because I guess we're just such a good team, we need subpar quarterback play just to be a playoff team, like if we just get to up to subpar, then we're good, but I figure before we kind of attack the issue, I want to find out what exactly it is, what are Vikings fans saying about their quarterback situation, because first of all, I think it's settled, but I, you know, they're at least not 100% going to come out and say that it's settled. The Athletics, Alec Lewis believes the Vikings will measure quarterback JJ McCarthy's development by assessing his accuracy, touch, consistency this summer, by the way. I will say, as Packer fans, we don't want JJ McCarthy to start. The reason being they went out and got this quarterback, Kyler Murray, with the full intention of him starting. There's never a question, JJ is going to be moved, McCarthy is going to be the guy, we're going to find a new quarterback, excuse me, Kyler is going to be the guy, and then we're going to find a new quarterback and move forward that way, unless we can get Kyler to be really good, even then it's kind of iffy, they're probably hoping for a second Sam Darnold situation, then they don't mess it up and get rid of him, but he's 30, and as a mobile quarterback, age is a much bigger issue. He's not quite 30, but he's getting there. Once you start hitting the later years as a mobile quarterback, you have to learn to stand in the pocket and throw, and if you can't, then it's not great. Plus, the size and injury stuff, his, he's not going to be a 40 year old quarterback, it's not going to happen. So, the shelf life here is much shorter than, for example, Sam Darnold. So, with all that said, with the expectation of moving on from McCarthy and moving in a different direction, if. McCarthy starts. It's because, holy crap, he took that step. So that's the only, the only path I see, pending some, you know, injury or whatever, where they start JJ McCarthy over Kyler Murray, which would suck, because that would, that would be bad. So why don't we start here, and I know this guy's like extra biased hypey for the Vikings, but it's still a good spot to kind of be like, all right, what, what, what's what's the vibe over here? What's going on, Jerome's so the storyline of the off season that this is Purple FTW podcast, by the way, if you're interested in supporting, or whatever. I don't know, like it should get hype, and it seems sort of glossed over that the Vikings signed Kyler Murray, who's still getting paid almost 40 million bucks from the Cardinals for $1.3 million and he's Asian, he can do that. The good thing, a two-time Pro Bowl quarterback in his prime, so note number one, they're doing the whole, you know, two-time Pro Bowler thing. In his prime is another one. These are little notes that you can set to the side of what there is to be excited about. Still under 30 with revenge on his mind, as long as he's not playing video games to basically captain this ship, man, whether it's Kyler, whether it's JJ. Yes, it is funny that it transitioned so quickly from, dude, this guy is legitimately, he's legitimately elite, and nobody's talking about it, and that's crazy, or maybe the other guy who's also good don't sound super committed, there. That's interesting. Is JJ McCarthy being thrown under the bus at times? Yes, yes, but quarterback competition, we all know we love JJ. You know what I love more, the Vikings. So whoever it is, whatever it takes, done to them, and also we say we said we just need a captain of the ship, we need somebody to thought he was gonna say Carson Wentz, I was like, please just say Carson Wentz, it'd be hilarious if you also, if that doesn't work, we got Carson Went, skip ahead here just a touch, and with Kyler, this is a chance for some full on career rehab, right. Justin Jefferson, his corner is going to be good to go, and his time with Arizona didn't end the greatest, right? You know, got his contract, even though he's playing his video game. Still never going to forgive Steve Keim, but last year Kyler Murray, you know, five games before he got injured, he did some stuffings and things, you know, completed 68% was best, which Kyler doesn't get enough credit for being an accurate thrower. The football was good to go, and I know a lot has been made, is like, well, what about his a dot has averaged up the targets, but now last couple years, have you seen the Arizona offense? Like, there has nothing been there's to be fair, the reason that matters is because if you're going to talk accuracy, you kind of have to look at it as an accuracy per area of the field thing, right? Because if, if the a dot, the average depth of target is the reason for the accuracy, then you're not actually that accurate of a quarterback, you just throw easier passes. I'm not saying that's the case, but that's the reason that gets brought up. Ben, there's never been a more podunk checkdown offense since watching like JV football. It's essentially what it is, man. But Kyler went two and three as a starter. Jabroni Brisket went one and 15, by the way, or one at 11, plus enough, really good at math, yeah, but Kyler is on the full on career rehab trajectory, and the odds reflect that, in terms of comeback player of the year. Now, Mahomes is probably just gonna be handed the trophy, right, because ACL pretty much probably, yeah, come back all that good stuff, he's the prohibitive favorite across all of the books. Kyler is interestingly enough coming in second, either plus 600 so six to one, you know, 550 in a couple places as well. And I know that everyone's pissing, Mona, like, well, why is Michael Parsons odd so low? Parsons not a quarterback. Parsons tore his knee up late in the season, so there's no guarantee that he's going to be back early in the season, and may not even be himself by mid season. It is what it is, so that's why his odds are longer. Plus, he's not a quarterback, plus, like you said, Pat Mahomes. Good luck beating Pat Mahomes. Pat, I mean, Pat, Pat Mahomes doesn't even need to actually be like a top 10 quarterback, you can see that already everybody already putting him in the top two as far as the rankings, like today, even though he hasn't been in four three years since he's been, I think you'd have to go back four years before he'd be in the top three conversation, but he just needs. To come back and have a winning football team and look like Pat Mahomes, and he will win Comeback Player of the Year, Kyler Murray. If Pat Mahomes doesn't do that, Kyler Murray does make sense to be the next best in line, because he's a quarterback, and if they can make him look good, which again, he doesn't need to be like, you know, PFF grade, top 10-ish. He needs to be healthy the whole year. The Vikings need to have a winning record and needs to look like it's on the back of Kyler Murray, and if they do that, and Pat McHale's isn't in the way, he will win that again. You could say, well, I mean, that's pretty impressive that he is ahead of Michael Parsons, that does say something, maybe kind of, but very much to his point. Micah Parsons is going to have a very difficult time when you're going to miss at least the first four games of the season to dominate to such a degree, and basically the only thing that matters here in this conversation, if we're talking about comeback player of the year, is stay healthy, get a bunch of sacks. I mean, good luck getting the number of sacks you need minus an entire quarter of the season. So, yeah, I mean, I guess, but if you remove Micah from the equation, who is Kyler ahead of in the odds? Malik Neighbors, Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson. Basically, it's a two-man race with Pat Mahomes at the top, and then Kyler, if he can play, and Mahomes, you know, if he gets hurt, then we'll just hand it to Kyler. And if Kyler can't do it, then Micah has a chance. And the fact that Micah is ahead of all these other guys, which makes sense, have not even having a full season, I don't necessarily know everybody else's situation, but Deshaun Watson isn't even guaranteed to be the starting quarterback, although his odds are way off. Basically, it's not a very large pool, so you know to look at and be like, well, he has the second best comeback odds. I'm not necessarily saying he's doing this, but to use that as evidence that, like, Vegas believes he's going to have a great year, it's an unbelievably small pool of people that could even be considered for this award, because he's going to have a truncated amount of time to do some damage. You have Malik Neighbors, Daniel Jones, Deshaun Watson. Why is Watson on there? It was, but Kyler, second place at getting around six to one. I do think it is Mahomes award to lose, but you know, the media does love a good story, and if and when Kyler Murray is, you know, he wants a starting job and just absolutely lights it up with this freaking offense, which there's gonna have a rededication in the run game. Kyler still has enough mobility where it's a threat to the defense. You got Jefferson, Addison, and Jennings. This offensive line should be good to go, because Darrisaw's leg hopefully won't fall off this season. And then you got Jackson, whoo, Blake Brandle, the solid veteran, getting acclimated at center. Will Fries going to prove that he's worth, hey dirty baby, I'm worth the money. Don't you worry, I said, hey, okay, we got some fries. All right, all right, all right, let's, let's, let's calm down, let's go ahead and skip a little bit here. It's offense, I know that people like to poo poo on the Vikings, and I know that we generally have a very sunny disposition when it comes to the Vikings, but if you're not drinking the purple Kool-Aid, honestly, it takes a special type of hater and loser to look at this offensive unit and be like child, please, and not even mention the defense across, which is going to be hellacious, is going to be extremely good at getting their ass off the field, good field position, taking the ball away, everything's gonna be good. So I honestly do believe that Kyler, you know, everyone and their mom, all Cardinals fan, you know, blaming Kyler for everything, but it's okay. It's okay, he can take the heat, he's gonna be motivated, he's gonna be mobile, agile, hostile. Give me all the six to one, baby. Just I feel like Kyler's on that comeback train and is going to be good to go, right? All right, good enough. So that's a position, and I look again as a Packer fan, even though they are in the division, and, but we got a lot to cover, and a lot to talk about, and all that stuff, and I think for the most part we've been looking at the NFC North through a 30,000 foot view. I haven't spent a lot of my life looking at Kyler Murray and his career, occasionally dabble over the years, just kind of like, oh, what's he, oh, he's, he's really good now, oh, he sucks now. Oh, whatever. I think kind of, kind of the big picture plan that I had here was let's look at Kyler, because that's another big thing. I don't want to go super in depth. We may have to, if I can't, you know, make this a big enough podcast in and of itself. And then perhaps we'll see, I don't, I don't want you know, sometimes I like my themes maybe a little bit more than I should, but the thought would be tomorrow we would do something similar with the Lions with the final crescendo, and maybe we'll just skip part three and go straight to the crescendo, being let's just look at the NFC North quarterbacks, and let's be honest about it. Let's look at golf, let's look at Kyler, let's look at Kayla. And then love, I don't know if we need to do this for the Lions, because I don't know that a lot of Lions fans are sitting around going, "Dude, we're going to be dope because of our quarterback. Last I remember, they started to fall out of love with him a little bit, but maybe that's the best. I'll do a tiny bit of digging to see if there's some golf hype. There probably is, and if there is, then we'll, we'll play this game as well, just so we can kind of get the receipts, and then hear specifically the arguments being made for them, and then we'll, and then again we will crescendo. What the heck does that word mean? Boy, I had no chance of spelling that crescendo, c r e s c r e s c e n d o, a gradual increase in loudness, force, or intensity. See, that's not what I was going for. So, a crescendo is the swelling, it's not the.. so now we're doing the crescendo. This is the swelling portion. Should stop using both of those words, swelling and crescendo. Well, see, I didn't want that to be the.. I didn't want that to be the word I was looking for. There's got to be a different word. Other related terms: fortissimo, sforzando, and tutti. Fortissimo is what we're going to go for, so we'll do the, we'll do the crescendo now, and then it'll get to the fortissimo. Definitely not the other thing, also not 2t We're not going to do a 2t We, there will be no two ting here on the Packer Nut Podcast. But let's take a break, and we'll be right back, you right, let's move over here. This is Menace, excuse me, Purple Daily, Minnesota Vikings chemistry. It is a Q and A segment, I believe. I don't know, but this.. this first portion is Brian continues and says, let me get serious now. The national media narrative on Kyler Murray is that his deep ball has regressed, but a quarterback's downfield accuracy is heavily tied to his targets. When he had DeAndre Hopkins a few years ago, Kyler was one of the better deep ball throwers. First of all, I don't think that's true at all. We'll get into the actual breaking these things down, but just to be clear, you would have to prove that to me. That's one of those things people on social media like to do, where they say things that they think sound smart without having any regard for whether or not you have to look that up. I don't think that that's true. Why? I mean, why would that be the case? I mean, the assumption is, well, if you got somebody wide open or whatever, but that's kind of irrelevant, and the stats don't really take that into account. It's just a question of whether or not you throw a good ball, and saying, well, if you look back a few years ago to when he had this person, then, then, yeah, but you're kind of, you're not really answering the question, you're just kind of giving a different explanation for it, while acknowledging that there has been regression. Yeah, well, a few years ago it was good. I know that's the entire point. It was good, and now it's not good. And you're saying that it's, it's only because of the players, and I'm not saying there can't be some kind of a relationship there. Maybe it goes to confidence, or, you know, I don't know, could also be things like offensive line, you know, if you're throwing on the run in a panic, as opposed to a comfortable pocket, there can be all kinds of variables, but on some level you're going to have to actually prove that correlation, which is again a lot of work to do, significantly less now with AI, but I doubt anybody's actually going to bother doing that, as opposed to just saying it because it sounds good in football with Justin Jefferson and the best supporting cast of his career in Minnesota. Is it creative to prove that as well? I don't know that that's true, but perhaps easy to think Kyler can regain that accuracy and launch himself right back into the MVP conversation, like in 2020 This is how you know that somebody's just saying stuff when, when we go from 'trust me, bro, I'm just being rational' to 'Should we be talking MVP? Why would we go to MVP again? It's not that it's impossible, but why would your mind be sitting there? Why, why, why would that be the case? I mean, if we say it's possible for all 32 quarterbacks, and then work backwards, how far do we get before Kyler gets taken off that list, I. You know, if we're going off of most likely, I don't think he's at or near the top. He won with D Hop, if he stays healthy for the majority of the season. That is where Judd's camp notes come into play. I gotta see the arm strength, because you know he's not wrong. Look, like we have seen, you might be wrong, but I guess we don't know that highlights of Kyler through the years with Cardinals, with some nice deep passes. In fact, again, kind of begging the question here. The question is, is it regressing right? So, if you go back and say, well, if you look back several years ago, it looked good. That doesn't answer the question of is it regressing. If I'm not mistaken, he beat the Vikings on a deep pass to the late Rondelle Moore in a game. So I'm curious to see what the arm strength is now, and again, the question wasn't about strength, although that would be a part of it. It was specifically about accuracy, which is a different thing. Doesn't have to be. I mean, if you don't have the strength and the accuracy of getting the ball to where it needs to be, as opposed to falling short, naturally follows. But now we're just kind of answering why. But he may have strength and not accuracy, so he. so, in other words, what is probably going to happen that doesn't answer the question is he's going to get in cap, he's going to launch a 55 yard ball, and everybody from Purple Daily is going to go, "Well, that answers the question. Everybody was talking about his arm strength, and there it is. No, no, that's not exactly what was being questioned. It was his deep ball accuracy, which is a different thing, and if it was just, but it's weird, because was it the receivers, was it the play calling, because he still had play calling, what the hell does that have to do with his accuracy, or arm strength, for that matter, some pretty good receivers, or so we thought with the Cardinals, but it definitely dissipated, so stage one is what I would say, stage, so this, this theory, like, like the downfield theory of he just has, he's had bad targets, and I'm maybe I'm wrong on this, but I feel like that logic could apply for sure to the 25 plus yard air throws, right? So, all right, this is kind of a 5050 ball. I'm putting the ball way down the field, and over the last four years on passes that travel 25 plus yards in the air down the field of all the qualified quarterbacks, like the, like the 45 qualified quarterbacks, Tyler is dead last incompletion percentage, 21% on passes that travel 25 or more yards. I wasn't going to look at it quite yet, because that was going to be more of a tomorrow or two days thing, but I'm staring at he's looking at something else, because it's 25 yards, he's probably over at Pro Football Reference or something. I'm looking at PFF, which is 20 plus yards, and I'm not looking at the rest of the field, but I can see he has a 76 grade, which sounds good, but this is when you're talking deep balls, this is the area where you've probably got five quarterbacks with a 99 grade, you've got the, you know, probably 20 in the 90s, so being at a 75 he's going to be relatively low. His completion percentage is at 37.5% which that usually is low. So, I can't speak to where that's at, but I'm guessing this is not very good compared to the rest of the league. Yards in the air, yeah, dead last in expected points added per attempt, that's bad. And dead last in yards per attempt, you could say. Well, well, that doesn't even make any sense. You wouldn't look at yards per attempt when you're already looking at 25 I mean, that's kind of just a weird anomaly, I guess. Well, I guess, and again, this is, there are better ways to do this than yards per attempt, if you were really concerned, but if it's 25 plus as the final thing, you could say that he has a weak arm because everybody else has these 60 yard, 50 yard throws, and his, his or more in the 2530 range. He's really not airing it out as much. You could say that, but that doesn't even necessarily answer that question. I think that's just a stupid stat to look at yards per attempt when you're looking at the, when you're looking specifically at yardage, yeah, I mean, give them a, give them a reliable target down the field. Here's where this is, this is where Judd's camp notes are going to come into play even more. It's the 10 plus yards in the air being bad that makes me more nervous, because that now includes the intermediate stuff, kind of the like the deep intermediate, those in cut routes that Kevin O'Connell loves. They're doing my homework for me. I appreciate this. Right, since 2022 on passes and going back to 2022 this encompasses some of his good years. The travel 10 or more yards down the field, Kyler dead last in expected points added per attempt. Yeah, that's 41st out of 43 in yards per attempt, and 36 out of 43 in completion percentage. The yards per attempt make a little bit more sense there, but still, it's even in general, I think yards per attempt is kind of a stupid stat. The only time I would really care is if it was exceedingly high or exceedingly low, that's where you kind of put a little asterisk next to some things like accuracy, and say, okay, we need to kind of do a little bit extra digging, but I genuinely don't care all that much. Yes, having Jefferson, Addison, Juan Jennings is going to help him, and any other quarterback, but like those are valid concerns over the past few years that we need to see what that looks like throughout mini camp, training camp, OTAs, etc. but do we think so? I guess let's go back to 2024 with Donald. You pretty quickly picked up on, don't, don't start. Don't listen. Here is another thing that we're going to have to, again, this, this is kind of just immersing ourselves in, like, what is the conversation over here? What are we doing? What I'm not going to tolerate is, yeah, but we said this about Donald. Darnold was a one-off. Okay, now I am not saying that Kyler, who's already unlike Darnold, demonstrated an ability to be a very good quarterback, if he got, if he was healthy in Arizona, he might have been good this year in Arizona. And I think Kevin O'Connell is a good coach, a good play caller, they have a good offensive line, they have good wide receivers, or mostly good offensive line, and at least one good wide receiver. There's every reason to believe that this could be one of his up years in a career that's been very like really good, really bad, really good, really bad. What I'm not going to do is play this game where you know, look at what happened with Donald, and so we should expect that to be a thing that happens all the time. That is a once in a lifetime situation. What happened with Arnold on in watching him at training camp? He had a great deep ball, like his depot is, he has a very good impeccable. He always did his medium range stuff was okay. I mean, it wasn't a disaster, but it certainly was not great. But if you have issues with the deep ball and you have issues with what you just talked about, which is the intermediate stuff. What would you say you do here? So, like, that's going to be really intriguing to watch. It seems to me like, like one or the other has to be efficient, and quite frankly, if I only can take one, I'm probably taking the mid-range stuff, because those plays present themselves a lot more, like I mean, just, just as a, so if we look at it, and this is going to be pretty, I don't know, that this, let me look at Jordan Love real quick, because this feels a little off, and again, his seems like he's known for throwing a lot of short passes, yeah, so, and Jordan's probably not a good example either, because I think he throws more deep balls than your average quarterback, but so he's at 15% of his passes are 20 plus, 20% of his passes are in the 10 to 19 yard range, so again, that's probably closer than most who would throw probably less deep balls for Kyler, you're looking at nine compared to 17, so yes, of course, you want the 17% to show out better than the 10% For reference, Jordan Love has a 94 passing grade on deep passes, a 91 passing grade on medium passes, 84 on short, and then 62 at behind the line of scrimmage. Kyler is 7174 6976 I'm not even gonna tell you directionally which way we're going, because it doesn't matter. He's just like a mid 70s across the board, and 41% of his passes are the zero to nine yards, with 24% being behind the line of scrimmage, so 63% of his passes came nine yards or less, and for Jordan Love it was, let's see, 55% so still a big chunk, but again you got 35% beyond that, with Kyler Murray sitting at like 25% of his passes, which is pretty crazy, one in four passes traveled 10 yards or more, Jordan was closer to one in three, and about 50% of Justin Jefferson's receptions came 10 yards or further down the field. Anywho, sorry, let's continue, but yes, that will be, that'll be very interesting to see. And you can always say, hey, look, I mean, with the Vikings, you're gonna have a top three receiver tandem that's really, really good, and that's, you know, the this is another thing that all four NFC North teams. Do is they, I think, over inflate. I don't want to sit here and say except the Packers, but I do think accept the Packers, because I don't think a lot of Packer fans, and I've talked to, if anything, they undersell the group. Well, Watson's never healthy, and Reed's no good, he's going to get traded and golden, and they're the underrated group in my mind, but top three receiver tandem. What are you talking about? Again, this is what I said. Remember when I told you that they massively overrate Addison? This is fricking crazy to me, that you think you have a top three. You don't even have a top three receiver anymore. This Justin Jefferson is the Pat Mahomes of wide receivers, he is a very good receiver who hasn't been a top receiver in three years, but everybody still says he's a top receiver, and yeah, maybe he bounces back, that's possible, but also until you do, I don't think I'm going to call you a top guy anymore, he ranked 14th last year as a receiver below Davante Adams. Now, I mean, no offense to Devonte, but I mean we know Devonte is slowly drifting in his 30s. Stefan Diggs has fallen off faster than Devonte, by the way. Christian Watson ranked 11th, so we have Christian Watson on this team who graded out higher than Justin Jefferson last year, and again, blame the quarterback all you want, that's fine, but until you actually prove it on the field, I'm not going to just say, "Oh no, he's still the top receiver. By the way, Pookan Akua, criminally underrated, everybody knows Pooka is good, he had like a 96 receiving grade, I don't think I don't think Jefferson has ever had that, and by the way, I was wrong. I was looking at Stefan Diggs; he ranked 17th last year. Justin Jefferson, his best year ever was a 91 so his grades have been 9190 9091, The last, then it dropped to an 88 which is still very good, but first time he's ever been below that, and then an 80 in 2025 that is a shocking drop off. Puka Nakua had a 96 receiving grade, that is better than than Jefferson has ever been by a mile. Jackson Smith and Jigba had a 93 grade, that's better than Jefferson has ever been, ever. So we still talk about Justin Jefferson, because again we fail to recalibrate, but he's not up there anymore. By the way, Aman Ross St. Brown, the last four years, 9091 9091 Aman Ross St. Brown has been as good as Justin Jefferson for four straight years. In other words, he's having a four year stretch that Jefferson had his first four years and is currently the better wide receiver in the NFC North. So, Jefferson isn't even the best receiver in the NFC North anymore. In fact, again, if we're just going off of last year, if we look at the did it, do, do, do. Let's, this would have been easier to just not do this. NFC North, Aman Ross St. Brown, then Christian Watson, then Justin Jefferson, with Luther Burden being nipping at his heels with a 78 great Romeo had a 77 almost as good as Justin Jefferson, Jameson Williams at a 77 I mean that that group is all right there with a minor gap between Jefferson and Watson, 80 to an 84 and then Aman Rah by himself at a 91 The only real blue chip wide receiver in the NFC North right now is Aman Raw St. Brown, until Justin Jefferson proves that last year was an anomaly, I had some stuff going on, our quarterback sucked, whatever, but I'm back fine, but again, until you prove that, and it's been, you have to go back not to 2025 or 2024 but to 2023 as the last time you had a 90 receiving grade, and again Pooka had almost 100 receiving grades. That's one of the best receiving grades that any receiver. I don't know that Devonte has ever had a grade like that, but yet we're still going to sit here and allow Vikings fans to talk about Justin Jefferson as though he is the premier receiver in the NFL, and that you have a top three receiving group, bro. You absolutely freaking do not. That is, that is an.. that is an absolute joke that you believe you have a top three receiving core, and.. and if you try to add your bum tight end to that, I'm gonna laugh in your face. I'm sorry, you might have the fourth best receiving core in the NFC North. I think you have the fourth best tight end again. You're, you're, when you, when you look at not just the, the top end, but the talent. I mean, if you look at Detroit, they've got Sam LaPorta, Jameson Williams, Amon Ra, St. Brown. I would take that. Met over Jefferson Addison and TJ Hawkinson, for reference, Jefferson 80 grade, Addison 61 which is the second lowest wide receiver grade. I think we already covered this in the entire NFC North, also ahead of Cole Commet, but that's kind of irrelevant at this point, but as far as wide receivers, just the second lowest, and then as far as tight ends, TJ Hawkinson is the lowest, not including Cole Commit, because he's not a number one tight end. It goes Coast and Loveland, then Sam Laporta, then Tucker Kraft, in terms of receiving grades, with all three of them being relatively close, 8683 and 83 between La Porta and Kraft, Hawkinson 62 he's not in the same category. Hawkinson is not good. There are three good tight ends, and Hawkinson is not one of them. So I would take Detroit without hesitation. Let's look at Chicago. Chicago has Colston Loveland, who is the, according to receiving grade, the second best receiver period in the NFC North. He was very good last year, had almost 1000 yards as a tight end at 906 Roma Dunes, a with a 71 grade, and Luther Burton with a 78 Now, you could argue that Jefferson currently is better and probably bounces back even more. So, would you rather have that? Honestly, no, because you can have one Justin Jefferson with a terrible supporting cast and a subpar tight end, and no real running backs to speak of, which we're not even discussing, or you can have an ascending a doomsday, an ascending burden, and a guy that could potentially be the top tight end in football here at Colston Loveland. Of course, I'm taking Chicago's group over Minnesota's group, and then you get to Green Bay. Well, as I said, Christian Watson already graded out higher than Justin Jefferson last year, and we have Matthew Golden, who we barely even got to see this past year, who almost graded out as well as Justin Jefferson did. He graded out better than Jalen Naylor and Jordan Addison. Obviously, there are other two receivers that were there, Naylor now a Raider, but it doesn't matter. They don't have good wide receivers, and then Tucker Kraft, who again is significantly better than what they have. The Minnesota Vikings have the fourth best receiving group. They're not even top three in the NFC North, and he's talking about, say that again, with the Vikings, you're going to have a top three receiver tandem that's really, really good. Oh my lord, you might have a bottom three receiver tandem. Dude, shut up. I mean, not really. Justin Jefferson is going to preclude that, but it's just.. it's not good. It's just not you. You have to get Justin Jefferson back to being a really good receiver. And again, even then, in today's NFL, he's not.. I don't know that he's going to be top five, because there's so many really, really good receivers. It's going to be hard for him to surpass Aman Ross St. Brown, who is currently playing at a level that Justin Jefferson played at at his best. Jamar Chase is already up there. Jackson Smith and Jigba and Pooka are already better receivers than Justin Jefferson, as I said, ever was. Drake London is up in that category right now. Pickens is up in there, there's a lot of guys that are that are kind of playing in that range. I think at best he gets back to what he was and ends up being third, but in a pile of probably three to four other guys that are about as good, but probably not as good as Jackson Smith and Jigba and Pooka Nakua. And again, I don't, I don't think there's any real reason to believe, pending Amon Ra falling off, that he, like, massively surpasses Aman Raw St. Brown. So, again, Justin Jefferson, I will, I will say this again, is the Pat Mahomes of wide receivers. He took the title of being the top receiver. And listen, I've always been flattering of Justin Jefferson, all right, because I, because I tell the truth, and if it's true, then I say it's true. He has been a very good receiver. I've always said he is a very good receiver. I have at times called him probably the best receiver, but this, this is not 2021 by the way. I don't know if he's ever been better than third. If you go back, I'm going back to 2020 now. Yeah, and that's that's the thing with being so, so, because he's been consistently like top three, top five. I've said he's like the best in football, but he's, I don't think he's been better than third. Justin Jefferson in 2020 was behind Stefan Diggs and Devonte Adams. In 2021 he was behind Devonte Adams and Cooper Cup. In 2022 he was, he dropped a fifth from third, and was behind Amon Ra, Devonte Adams, Jalen Naylor, and Tyreke Hill, which I mean, that's three years in a row, Devonte was ahead of them. 2023 he is fourth behind Amon Ra. And an Iuk and Tyreek Hill, and then again the fall off can begins in 2024 so he was top three, then the last, then the next two years, 2022 and 2023 he was top five, and now he in 2024 drops to top 10, being eighth behind T Higgins, Drake London, Aman Raw St Brown, Mike Evans, AJ Brown, Nico Collins, and new to the scene, Puka Nakua. By the way, in this year you had Nico Collins with a 92 grade, which again Justin Jefferson has never had. And then in 2025 is when you have him dropping out of the top 10, not even top 15, he becomes a top 20 receiver, ranking 17th. Hilariously, his 80 pff receiving grade is closer to Michael Wilson of Arizona than it is to Aman Ross St. Brown in the same division. I bring that up, obviously, because his new quarterback, it was in Arizona, so anywho, let's take our final break, and we'll be right back. And I'll say this just to start off this other site, but first of all, the Purple Daily, they do a good job being much more centered, and they have been this whole time. The top three thing kind of set me off, obviously, but, but for the most part, the conversation is centered around, you know, we'll have to see where he's at, and if he's any good. The fella in the middle here, I don't know their names, but he brings up a good point. I won't play the whole audio, but he's he's looking at 2021 and saying this is what Tyler's best year was, and he's going to go through how good it was as a point of being excited toward him, or whatever, or what he's capable of, I should say, and he brings up as a counterpoint to his point before he gets started, as a caveat, he knows that this is a very long time ago, five years as an eternity in the NFL, and brings up Deshaun Watson. If you remember, Deshaun Watson was the dude in Houston. He was freaking amazing as a quarterback. It feels like that never happened. It was such an eternity ago, another world ago, because, considering how much he gets made fun of for being garbage, he was unbelievably good as a quarterback, but if you were to try to convince anybody that he is good or could be good, as opposed to this dude fell, I can't explain it, but it's over. It just goes to show five years is an eternity, and without playing this, I'll just add one final caveat, and that is, you know, the NFL sometimes speaks to us and tells us what they think, then sometimes they get it wrong, clearly. But the Vikings did not inherit a guy that the NFL believes is elite. The Arizona Cardinals are paying him to play for another team right now, paying him a massive amount of money to play for the Vikings, and the Vikings invested like a million dollars to get them. They paid nothing for him, and anybody could have gotten him for that. And the Vikings just let him walk in. I don't think there is a single team out of 32 that believes in Kyler Murray anymore, and I think that's evident by the way that this whole thing is panning out. There was not a massive market, there was not a bidding war for him, there was nothing. They, they are paying a huge amount of money to let him play somewhere else, and this obviously ties into the Jefferson thing as well, because not only Vikings fans, but I'm sure Packer fans will listen and say, "Oh, come on, of course he's elite. And again, I believe he - I mean, he's young enough that I'm sure he'll have a bounce back this year in a better situation. My point is things change in the NFL, and we don't change with it fast enough. The Pat Mahomes thing, the Justin Jefferson thing, things change rapidly, and we constantly.. but this is where free agency gets stupid, because people will hear big names and go, 'Oh, you gotta get him. Not realizing he hasn't been a thing in three, four years. This is also why I don't think Pooka gets his proper due, because I mean, we know Pook is good, but I mean, you know, he's not Jocelyn Jefferson, bro. Come on, stop it. The torch has been passed, and Puka is what Justin Jefferson never was. And this is with all due full respect to Jefferson, who I have been. If you're a Vikings fan and you've been listening a while, you need to acknowledge I have been very flattering to Jefferson. In fact, when I talk about top receivers, he's always my go-to, and I believe he can get back to like a 90 grade this year. It's entirely possible, but I think he's going to try to fight to get back into top five. At a minimum, I would guess he gets back to top 10, but it's also possible that his reign is over, and he is just a good receiver, not a great receiver. And as Packer fans, I need you to understand a couple things. When I try to get people to understand the gap in understanding here, in other words, we put Justin Jefferson on God tier, and Watson is good, but he hasn't really. Reach that level, like he's a solid guy. We need a number one. Watson was above him, better than him, higher category. And the fact that he was 11th to be a top 10 receiver is incredible. It is, there are so many elite receivers, it is hard to crack the top 10. He was 11th, Justin Jefferson was 17th. The inability for Packer fans to grasp this, I think, fully, and I say this partially to myself, because it's, it's, it feels impossible, but we don't fully appreciate how good Watson was this past year, not, and this isn't even necessarily AC, he's been good this whole time. Like I said, he had a breakout, he came back from injury and was like, holy, the same same with Tucker, except it's the opposite with Tucker. Everybody always thought Tucker was great, and I was like, you guys are overrating Tucker. And then he became the beast that everybody said he always was. Now I think he's still overrated, where people say he's the number one tight end. I think he could be, and he's in a conversation with a pile of tight ends, including two others in our own division, Colston Loveland and Sam La Porta, but I'm not, I'm not really interested in fighting that battle, because he's a very good tight end, and you know, if he ends up being the fifth best instead of the number one, I'm, you know, whatever. Fine. Just call him the best. I don't, I don't really care. It's not worth fighting over, but there is a severe lack of understanding how good Christian Watson was in the limited time that we saw him. By the way, he came back healthy and just played, so we might have a top 10 receiver all year if he can stay healthy, not to mention hopefully a breakout gold, and not to mention Tucker Kraft continuing to ascend, hopefully, or at least maintaining his position that he was at last year. You want to talk about top three receiving duo, or a group, or whatever? I don't know that the Packers crack that, but boy, do they have a good one. They're at least fighting in a very tough division to be the best receiving group in the NFC North, which is again going to be very difficult when you have Aman Rah Saint Brown and Sam La Porta. We're going to have to rely on depth, which the Bears also have, so they're also going to be better than the Bears. So, in order to be the best in the division, you have to be very good and very deep, and that's not going to be easy to do, but this is a to go off and complete my tangent that has nothing to do with the original topic. This is a very good and underrated group of receivers. I think this is a very good take here too. I think his name is Jud. I'm not sure, but this is this is this is essentially, I think they do a very good job of putting things in their proper context, the way that I try to do, and to try to step back and be like, okay, let's, let's be calm, and let's think about this. He highlights specifically, sort of the fan problem here, because it's funny when you're, when you know a guy and he was a big name player, and he gets signed by the team that you cover a lot of times, you, you go in thinking that the highlights that you've seen are him, or what you've heard is him, and then you find out it's different. Exactly right, exactly right. And that could be positive or negative, right. This is why the Kyler Murray thing is probably so polarizing, because if you're a Vikings fan, you think highlights, and if you're a Packers fan, you think Call of Duty, right? Do you think the guy's a freaking bum and a lazy in and wait a minute? I don't know how Call of Duty works, but don't they have certain, like, releases or whatever? We gotta, I want to see something long-running NFL meme that Kyler Murray tends to play worse after a new Call of Duty game comes out, or during a big Call of Duty event like Double XP weekends. Hold on, wait for it. So, probably not September. When is our next game? Oh no, is it late? Oh, november 15. Yeah, that might. So, we might have missed it. According to this, mid October is the highest risk period for a new Call of Duty drop. There's also there are weekends for double XP. This is so funny that we're going to be able to make fun of them for this, but apparently they don't announce that until a few days or like a week until presumably the Thanksgiving period is when they're going to be having some kind of events, and we play the Vikings november 15, so probably too early. Dang it, when do the.. what does the Vikings get? Who's.. who's.. I hope it's not the Bears. So mid October they've got the Saints, which would be hilarious if they dropped that one, possibly the Colts. That's kind of late October, and then you've got the Thanksgiving time, which would be roughly ers, Falcons. Yeah. Oh, well, we'll have fun with it. I think we can maybe end on this. No, this is a very long video, and there's plenty of other Kyler stuff, but just again, just trying to get a general vibe on this one other thing that was. Mentioned as a person that called in or wrote into their show and talked about the potential problems with a, as the writer put it, a Kevin Hart-sized quarterback playing in cold weather. Now that's a very good point, obviously it is a dome team, but they have to play two games in, well, I guess one in Green Bay, which I think is, uh, when is that? Yeah, the first one is there, so that actually works in our, then, yeah, the november 15, so that that works massively in our favor. Let me take a peek at their schedule here. So, when is it going to start getting cold, probably not till October. Warm weather, warm weather, pretty much everybody's a freaking dome now. Lions are a dome, Buffalo, but that's at home. Yeah, so I mean, they don't play a cold weather game, I think until november 15 against the Packers. They play the Patriots in New England december 10. I'm trying to remember who has a dome and who doesn't, Patriots, I don't believe do they play the Jets january 3, so I think those are their only cold weather games, but still worth mentioning, and obviously by virtue of how cold weather works, these are all later in the season, so if you have an injury-prone smaller quarterback that has already taken his lumps, now has to start playing in cold weather games. You could see a situation where the Minnesota Vikings possibly get off to a hot start, but similar to what you see with older quarterbacks, they start to diminish toward the end of the season. This is why, by the way, Green Bay always talks about how they like to get bigger guys, and they've always kind of liked getting bigger guys, in part just as a general NFL theory, but also because of the cold weather situation, and even if you think you're not a cold weather team because you have a dome, you still have to travel, you're still gonna have to play in it, and theoretically, and hopefully you're going to struggle to get through the later portion of the season and stay resilient as it starts getting colder, so hopefully that does end up being a bit of a hindrance. All right, so here's the plan, tentatively moving forward. I'm going to do some general due diligence today to see if Lions fans are hyping up golf. I'm guessing there has to be some. On one hand, you've got like the I think if you, if you just had a room full of Lions fans, they're probably not hyping up Goff a ton. They feel like he's maybe kind of holding them back or something. I don't know, but if you were to have an NFC North discussion about Jordan Love and Caleb and who's the best quarterback, I'm guessing you'd see plenty of Lions fans come out and say, give me a frickin' break, it's golf, and that's all I need, that's all I need to go off of. So I will see if I can find some of that. We will discuss that quarterback situation and how they feel about him, and then that will.. what the heck was the word for Flino? I don't remember something Italian and Effie. We'll do our breakdown of my thoughts again, kind of like I've done before, in terms of I don't want to go in, find where Jordan is the best, pretend that those are the best stats, and then say, ha ha, we win. I want to start with the stats and then go find them and then rank them accordingly. Start from a standpoint of, here's what I think makes you kind of like what Colin Coward did, but he did it like an idiot. Start with your criteria, and then go look at the quarterbacks. But I'm going to leave it at that for today. I will talk to you all later. 

Monte and Sal kick off with a heartfelt apology to the Polynesian community before breaking down the latest on Malik Nabers' recent knee cleanup surgery and the leaked 2025 schedule featuring the Giants versus the Cowboys on Sunday Night Football in Week 1. They debate chasing Stefan Diggs or Keenan Allen in free agency, then deliver a full 2025 NFL Draft review covering standout picks, biggest reaches, team grades, and a deep look at the Giants' own class including Aral Reese, Francis Mauinoa, and Colton Hood while assessing how the new regime under John Harbaugh is reshaping the roster.00:00:09 - Welcome And Apology00:04:03 - Malik Nabers Surgery00:08:57 - Schedule Leaks00:18:33 - Diggs Allen Rumors00:23:10 - Draft Review Begins00:30:36 - Round One Breakdown00:50:35 - Favorite Picks01:25:58 - Giants Draft Class01:32:20 - Draft Winners LosersPlease Like and Subscribe!Follow Us:@HesAGiantPod@montecri5to@queens_guy

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Today's episode is a news-filled rundown. We're covering a tragic story in Melrose where a nine-year-old boy died after being hit by a falling tree at a playground. We'll also discuss the acquittal of former Patriots receiver Stefan Diggs on assault and strangulation charges. Plus, we'll touch on Celtics star Jaylen Brown being fined $50,000 for criticizing the refs. We'll also dive into the Red Sox's big win over the Tigers and the drama that unfolded in a game between the Sixers and the Knicks. It's a packed episode with a lot on our minds.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Seth and Sean talk about the Astros' 2-1 win over the Dodgers, Tatsuya Imai's latest wrinkle with how the MLB works, what DeMeco Ryans said he was encouraged by with CJ Stroud's offseason, go through the day's Headlines, discuss Nick Shook's piece ranking QBs still on their rookie deals, the craziness in the Stefon Diggs trial, kick around a fun hypothetical about which clutch athlete they'd pick to convert if their lives depended on it, talk about the sad state of the Astros, if they're coming around on trading for Giannis and/or trading away Sengun, how it's just always something with Tatsuya Imai, what DeMeco Ryans had to say about CJ Stroud's contract situation and the offseason work he's put in, if fake news about Kamari Lassiter's 40 time caused him to fall to the Texans, the most interesting parts from the Stefan Diggs trial, and see what the ITL question of the day is with Reggie and Lopez.

Seth and Sean talk about what DeMeco Ryans had to say about CJ Stroud's contract situation and the offseason work he's put in, if fake news about Kamari Lassiter's 40 time caused him to fall to the Texans, the most interesting parts from the Stefan Diggs trial, and see what the ITL question of the day is with Reggie and Lopez.

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TDC Podcast topics - Mike and Amy hold down the show today, the Pistons complete the round 1 comeback, the Magic fire their head coach after collapsing, Stefan Diggs trial vs his hoe chef is underway in Boston, DC Judge apologizes to the latest attempted Trump assassin Cole Allen for his treatment in jail this week, Hulu show Paradise has us hooked, DOJ says they will enforce Supreme Court ruling on race based gerrymandering nationwide…which could be a massive win for the Republican Party, will leadership in Dem run cities ignore the SC ruling?  "Can you read" TikTok video has school where it was filmed upset, 2026 Promposal videos are coming out and ridiculous, email and much more.

Today's news update is a wild ride. We're covering a lot of ground, from a high-profile trial to a scary incident at a playground. The Stefan Diggs assault trial is making headlines, with the chef testifying about a heated exchange. Meanwhile, a tree came crashing down in Melrose, injuring three people, including a young child. We're also talking about the World Cup coming to town and the traffic chaos that's expected. Plus, we've got updates on a cruise ship with a rat virus outbreak and a settlement between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. It's a busy news day, folks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Homie Helpline gets incredibly heavy as we help Danny navigate a three-year-old family secret regarding his aunt's death and his father's weak heart.

It's a tough Monday morning, but we're here to help you catch up on the top stories. From Boston sports to national news, we've got you covered. The Celtics are out of the playoffs after a tough loss, and the Bruins are saying goodbye to the season too. The Red Sox are struggling, and the trial of Stefan Diggs is underway. We'll also dive into the latest on gas prices, Spirit Airlines, and the new Devilwares movie. Plus, get the scoop on the Met Gala and Gracie Abrams' new song. It's a busy news day, but we're here to break it down for you.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode covers a mix of current events and news updates. The host discusses the upcoming Artemis 2 mission to the Moon, which is powered by a communication system made by MIT researchers. They also touch on the ongoing war in Iran and its potential impact on gas prices. Additionally, they cover various news stories, including Tiger Woods' health issues, a trial date for Stefan Diggs, and updates on local sports teams like the Bruins and Red Sox. The host also mentions a concert by Cardi B and a Broadway show cancellation due to Megan Thee Stallion's health issues.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The power hour begins with the Cowan Gates Hokies Update as the Hokies start the ACC tournament tonight. They need to win at least one game, probably two in order to go dancing this season and it starts tonight! BREAKING NEWS in the NFL as the Jets have traded for former Jets QB Geno Smith and the Patriots sign Romeo Doubs to a new deal to replace Stefan Diggs. Where does this leave the Commanders and their search for a new WR? AWadd and J$ go around the Commonwealth with who has a chance to dance in the state of Virginia. Can anyone join UVA as a lock to make the tourney as conference championship week rages on. The Washington Commanders have seemingly always been the bridesmaid and never the bride as NFL free agency continues to rage on, is it a good thing they've been in on the action or a problem they can't close the deal? Tune in LIVE every weekday from 12-3 PM everywhere on the Audacy app and locally at 910 the fan and 105.1 FM for more AWadd Radio!!

On today's BEST OF AWADD RADIO, AWadd and J$ transport themselves through space and time to Sunday in Pittsburgh to tell you the future of the A-10 predicting the entire A-10 tournament bracket ahead of action tomorrow! Sports director at CBS 6 Lane Casadonte hops on the program to talk all things local sports, from the ACC to the A-10 we prepare for the local teams in the conference tournaments to high school championships, Lane is here to break it all down for us! AWadd and J$ take you around college basketball as conference championships continue to finish up and more tickets are punched on University Drive. The Big 12, Big 10, ACC and more start their tournaments today and a few smaller ones finish up with 5 more spots being taken up tonight! BREAKING NEWS in the NFL as the Jets have traded for former Jets QB Geno Smith and the Patriots sign Romeo Doubs to a new deal to replace Stefan Diggs. Where does this leave the Commanders and their search for a new WR? Tune in LIVE every weekday from 12-3 PM everywhere on the Audacy app and locally at 910 the fan and 105.1 FM for more AWadd Radio!!

The NFL offseason is heating up and Ryan is breaking down everything that matters — from a blockbuster trade that signals just how expensive this market is getting, to a Packers draft prospect who literally gave scouts his own perfect comp. The Rams sent a 2026 first, fifth, and sixth to Kansas City for 25-year-old Trent McDuffie — Ryan breaks down why it's an all-in move that actually makes sense for LA, and why Chiefs fans shouldn't sleep on that first-round return Aaron Rodgers hits the Pat McAfee Show with zero commitment to the Steelers — and somehow manages to tell the GM not to draft his replacement while still refusing to sign on the dotted line Ryan digs deep on Jonah Coleman, the Washington RB projected right around the Packers' third-round pick who compared himself to Josh Jacobs — and a top draft analyst agreed Free agency release wire roundup: Stefan Diggs, Makai Becton, Jonnu Smith, Max Crosby drama, the Vikings' ongoing cap catastrophe, and Chris Brooks quietly locking in a team-friendly two-year deal in Green Bay Plus — Rashawn Gary posts a Packers sweatshirt on the ground and the internet completely loses it Subscribe, leave a five-star review, and follow Ryan on X @Pack_Daddy for daily Packers and NFL coverage. More coming tonight on Packernet After Dark! This episode is brought to you by PrizePicks! Use code PACKDADDY to get started with America's #1 fantasy sports app. https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/PACKDADDY To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com Or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/packernetpodcast Help keep the show growing and check out everything I'm building across the Packers and NFL world: Support: Patreon: www.patreon.com/pack_daddy Venmo: @Packernetpodcast CashApp: $packpod Website: https://nfldraftgrades.com/ My Board: https://nfldraftgrades.com/board/83a18c42-7a0b-4590-8d1b-453e49840d02

Here are the show notes:We're talking weather and current events on today's episode. The forecast is looking messy, with icy roads expected for tomorrow's commute. We'll also dive into the latest news, including the Patriots releasing Stefan Diggs, the World Baseball Classic, and the US's first game against Brazil. Plus, we'll touch on the Senate's rejection of the War Powers Act, Robert Kennedy Junior's sugar concerns, and the upcoming World Cup funding battle in Foxboro. We'll also get an update on the Harry Styles album release and a recap of Lisa's book club event in Boston.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The NFL offseason is heating up and Ryan is breaking down everything that matters — from a blockbuster trade that signals just how expensive this market is getting, to a Packers draft prospect who literally gave scouts his own perfect comp. The Rams sent a 2026 first, fifth, and sixth to Kansas City for 25-year-old Trent McDuffie — Ryan breaks down why it's an all-in move that actually makes sense for LA, and why Chiefs fans shouldn't sleep on that first-round return Aaron Rodgers hits the Pat McAfee Show with zero commitment to the Steelers — and somehow manages to tell the GM not to draft his replacement while still refusing to sign on the dotted line Ryan digs deep on Jonah Coleman, the Washington RB projected right around the Packers' third-round pick who compared himself to Josh Jacobs — and a top draft analyst agreed Free agency release wire roundup: Stefan Diggs, Makai Becton, Jonnu Smith, Max Crosby drama, the Vikings' ongoing cap catastrophe, and Chris Brooks quietly locking in a team-friendly two-year deal in Green Bay Plus — Rashawn Gary posts a Packers sweatshirt on the ground and the internet completely loses it Subscribe, leave a five-star review, and follow Ryan on X @Pack_Daddy for daily Packers and NFL coverage. More coming tonight on Packernet After Dark! This episode is brought to you by PrizePicks! Use code PACKDADDY to get started with America's #1 fantasy sports app. https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/PACKDADDY To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com Or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/packernetpodcast Help keep the show growing and check out everything I'm building across the Packers and NFL world: Support: Patreon: www.patreon.com/pack_daddy Venmo: @Packernetpodcast CashApp: $packpod Website: https://nfldraftgrades.com/ My Board: https://nfldraftgrades.com/board/83a18c42-7a0b-4590-8d1b-453e49840d02

The drama continues as Stefon Diggs attempts to spin the block with Cardi B, following their widely publicized breakup before and after the Super Bowl. Though insiders say Diggs has sent pricey gifts and made overtures, Cardi publicly confirmed the split onstage, defending him from outside criticism while emphasizing that despite not “f‑‑king with [her] baby daddy,” she won’t tolerate disrespect toward him. Their breakup followed social‑media unfollows, legal troubles on Diggs’ side, and Cardi’s renewed focus on touring after welcoming their child last year. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The episode kicks off with a jarring headline: Former UK Prince Andrew has been arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office, a rare and historic development for the British monarchy. Authorities say the arrest is connected to allegations that he shared confidential government information during his time as a UK trade envoy, uncovered through newly released Epstein‑related files—an event so unprecedented that King Charles publicly expressed “deepest concern” as police raided multiple properties tied to Andrew. From global scandal to entertainment chaos, the conversation shifts to Ray J, whose alarming Valentine's Day performance—where apparent blood dripped from his eyes as he wore a chest monitor—left fans stunned. This incident followed his recent revelation that his heart is functioning at just 25%, requiring multiple medications and possible surgical intervention. The drama continues as Stefon Diggs attempts to spin the block with Cardi B, following their widely publicized breakup before and after the Super Bowl. Though insiders say Diggs has sent pricey gifts and made overtures, Cardi publicly confirmed the split onstage, defending him from outside criticism while emphasizing that despite not “f‑‑king with [her] baby daddy,” she won’t tolerate disrespect toward him. Their breakup followed social‑media unfollows, legal troubles on Diggs’ side, and Cardi’s renewed focus on touring after welcoming their child last year. The show wraps with political sparks as Donald Trump publicly gushes over Nicki Minaj at the White House’s Black History Month reception, calling her “beautiful,” praising her “long nails,” and celebrating her as someone who “gets it”—all while Minaj continues posting AI‑generated images of herself and Trump and affirming she is his “No. 1 fan,” deepening an unexpected political alliance that has become a lightning rod online. Website: https://www.urban1podcasts.com/rickey-smiley-morning-show See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of the Warner Brothas Podcast, the hosts reflect on Super Bowl 60, discussing the lackluster performance of the game, the dominance of the Seahawks' defense, and the struggles of the Patriots' offense. They also look ahead to the future of the Patriots, share their thoughts on the halftime show featuring Bad Bunny, and critique the commercials aired during the Super Bowl. Overall, the conversation highlights the key moments and performances from the game while expressing a mix of disappointment and hope for the future. In this episode of the Warner Brothers Podcast, the hosts delve into the world of Super Bowl commercials, discussing memorable ads and their cultural impact. They also explore the controversial behaviors of NFL players, particularly focusing on Stefan Diggs and James Pierce, and their implications for the league. The conversation shifts to predictions for the next Super Bowl and the offseason storylines to watch, including player movements and team dynamics. The hosts reflect on the fast-paced nature of the NFL season and the excitement for what's to come in the future.00:00 Super Bowl 60 Reflections03:29 Defensive Dominance in the Super Bowl06:13 Offensive Struggles and Adjustments09:29 Looking Ahead: Future of the Patriots21:23 Halftime Show Highlights and Performances28:16 The Evolution of Super Bowl Performances29:14 Future Predictions for Halftime Shows31:29 Super Bowl Commercials: Hits and Misses39:39 NFL's Worst Man of the Year Candidates49:32 Way Too Early Super Bowl Predictions53:47 Teams to Watch for Next Season58:34 Offseason Storylines to FollowFOLLOW THE BROTHAS ONInstagram -https://www.instagram.com/warnerbrothaspodcast/TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thewarnerbrothaspodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/warnerbrothaspodcastX - https://x.com/warnerbrospodYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thewarnerbrothaspodcast

In this episode of Billy and Lisa in the Morning, the hosts dive into the latest news and gossip. They discuss the messy breakup between Cardi B and Stefan Diggs, and share their thoughts on the situation. They also talk about the upcoming Olympics, the US women's hockey team, and the latest news on the Patriots. Additionally, they discuss the upcoming book club event in Boca Raton, Florida, where they'll be meeting with author Ellen Hildebrand. The hosts also share some personal stories about messy breakups and relationships, making for a fun and relatable conversation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're catching up on the latest news on this Tuesday, February 10th. The day starts off with snow on the way to Boston, with a chance of 2-3 inches expected. We're also talking top stories, including the State Police Academy staff members facing serious charges for the death of a trooper recruit in 2024. The Patriots are back in town, with Coach Mike Vrabel expressing pride in his team. We're also looking at the Red Sox, who've made a six-player trade and are gearing up for their first preseason game. Plus, we're discussing the latest on the Savannah Guthrie case and celebrity news, including reports of Stefan Diggs and Cardi B's split.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Send us a textOn this episode, I'm joined by the most prominent sports lawyer that you've probably never. Heard of. His name is Jay Reisinger, and he has represented some of the highest-profile professional athletes in the country in league disciplinary cases, salary, arbitration cases, and crisis management.If you're a pro athlete and you're in trouble, he's the man to see. Jay joins the pod to talk about the Stefan Diggs and Christian Barmore criminal charges, whether they might be suspended during the NFL playoffs or the off-season, and he gives a behind the scenes look at how the leagues investigate and punish athletes.Thank you for listening! For the latest in sports law news and analysis, you can follow Gabe Feldman on twitter @sportslawguy .

Starting off the year on a good note Wop and Dj breaking down the most important events. Freaky Z aka Zion Williamson has another outing with a sex worker. Dj has an epiphany about Zion and unpacks the mindset of Freaky Z. Dj invites the legendary PinkyXXX to the pod. Stefan Diggs chokes out the cook and Wop wants to know how many BBLS is too many to occupy one household. Clarissa shields has cornier in love internet moments. Trump helps Nike tech fleece sales rise more than ever after a trip to Venezuela. At the 70 min mark we break into Black monday, NFL playoff predictions and the Trae young Trade. We open and close the pod with some blends and reviews of the blends.

Send us a textThe bums kickoff a brand new season and new year with a special guest, JK — who comes on break from The United States Military Academy at West Point; Paddy leads JK through the gauntlet (a special guest tradition); talk turns to the Chicago Bears and their last two barn burners (fuck the Packers) — as the legend of Frosty The Iceman grows; NFL teams are choking like a 20-year old snowblower; Atlanta Falcons have woken, let's see if they can repeat; DeKaylin Zecharius may have blown the Steelers playoff chances; Stefan Diggs in hot water with his personal chef; Dan Campbell is on Rocky's radar still (The Unforgiven); the NFL coach carousel spins on the cusp of Black Monday (the bums set the O/U at 5.5); Chip Kelly joins the NWU coaches pool (ugh); and end part 1 with a jab at ND, who have been rightfully embargoed by USC to end a long-standing tradition. Part two starts with another intergalactically famous double booze review, with BuckleDown Brewing's “Hike and Bike” (4.2% ABV) — courtesy of Big D, a super lightweight session lager that starts well but falls a bit flat — followed by an Irish Whiskey for the ages with “Red Spot 15 Year Old” (92 proof, 42% alcohol), a single pot still Irish whiskey from Mitchell & Son, their oldest age-stated bottle in the Spot range — with amazing notes and finishes; the bums get the scoop from JK on his amazing West Point experience, as he prepares for the first leg of his military career as an officer.   Get patriotic and ring in the New Year with some bumsRecorded on January 2nd, 2026 at B.O.M.'s global headquarters ‘East Bunker' in Chicago, IL USA. 

Ryan and Dustin return for Week 17 NFL reactions and deliver a heartfelt sendoff on No Credentials Required. The guys share laughs about email mishaps and dive into the shockwaves from off-field NFL headlines, including Stefan Diggs' latest trouble. On a somber note, Ryan pays tribute to Tagalong, the beloved show mascot, sharing memories and stories that tug at the heartstrings. Then, it's all gridiron: the duo breaks down Week 17's most electric games, biggest upsets, disappointments, and peak performances. NFL playoff implications, coaching hot seats, and wild-card weekend chaos are all on the table. They wrap up with the “favorite athlete to wear number 96” segment and tease what's ahead for the final week of the season. No Credentials Required is a part of Belly Up Sports Media Network. Belly Up Sports: www.bellyupsports.com | www.youtube.com/@bellyupsports Righteous Felon: This episode's affiliate sponsor is Righteous Felon Craft Jerky: For a limited time, save 20% off your order with promo code NOCREDS at checkout! Plus, free shipping for every order of $50 or more! | https://www.righteousfelon.com Bumper Music: "Thank You God" by Akira the Don and MEANINGWAVE - Copyright 2021 USED WITH PERMISSION Follow No Credentials Required on social media on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and subscribe to our YouTube page for additional content! Merch: https://www.bonfire.com/store/no-credentials-required/ Discord: https://discord.gg/WknBEUQY

We are discussing what the Steelers need to get done and what Stefan Diggs needs to stop doing! The NFL Playoffs are coming in 2026 and Steelers are playing to get in! Maye vs Stafford for MVP. Who will end with the #1 seed? We have NFL news, Power Rankings, Game Picks and upset specials.... Happy New Years!

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Send us a textHoliday lights were on, but the takes were brighter. We kick off with a quick Christmas hello, then tear through a year that never stopped serving headlines: the messiest couple debate lands on Cardi B and Offset, with Stefan Diggs stepping into the frame and raising the stakes in ways only sports drama can. From there we lock in the Out-of-Pocket Person award for Trump, whose month-to-month spectacle turned policy into performance art and kept the timeline exhausted.When we talk “biggest story,” the Diddy trial towers over everything. We connect the courtroom moments, 50 Cent's executive-produced doc, Cassie's testimony, and the wave of related claims that made this more than a celebrity scandal. It became a lens on power, silence, and how the culture processes allegations when history starts rhyming in public. Our What-The-Hell moment goes to Charlie Kirk for a truly jarring twist, the kind that hijacks a news cycle and lingers.Music fans get fed too. Song of the Year lands on Leon Thomas' Mutt remix with Chris Brown—sticky, soulful, and stubbornly replayable—while Album of the Year goes to Wale for masterful sequencing and no-skip consistency that cut through the noise. We spotlight Kalani as Person of the Year for finally breaking into a broader lane after years of craft and patience. The viral crown? The 6-7 chant, a goofy, irresistible phenomenon that invaded arenas, feeds, and even our gaming habits.We wrap with the Down Bad award for Offset, who spent the year catching public Ls and trying every move to reverse the score. Then it's on to predictions: a potential Drake reset, more Shannon x Katt wildfire, and the political circus refusing to close its tent. Hit play for sharp takes, receipts, and laughs—and when you're done, subscribe, rate, and share this one with a friend who lives for end-of-year rankings. Your picks different? Drop them in the comments and let's argue.FOLLOW. SUBSCRIBE. SHARE. Contactmixedvibeztv@gmail.com (720) 381-1092Facebook www.facebook.com/mixedvibezYouTube https://youtube.com/@mixedvibezmediaTikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@mixedvibezmedia?_t=8aEYresFfkw&_r=1Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/mixedvibezpodcast/

Send us a text'Slick Willy' Will Einfalt and 'The Lock Smith' Cole Smithson break down every game from Week 5 in the NFL. We start with two exciting primetime games and finish with a litany of blowouts that dotted the entire schedule. Look forward to more episodes coming soon. Thank you for listening, if you like the show check out our social media @4thand32podcast on Tik Tok, Instagram and Twitter. Check out our website 4thand32.com and please rate us, subscribe and share with your friends! Email us at 4thand32podcast@gmail.com. 00:00 Jaguars Triumph Over Chiefs05:58 Trevor Lawrence's Performance Under Scrutiny11:55 Defensive Highlights and Key Players17:48 Looking Ahead: Jaguars' Future Prospects19:47 Chiefs' Struggles and Upcoming Challenges24:51 Bills vs. Patriots: A Shift in Power26:44 Stefan Diggs and the Bills' Defense Concerns27:51 Baker Mayfield vs. Sam Darnold: A Quarterback Duel31:28 The Rise of Rookie Wide Receivers35:36 Game of the Year: Buccaneers vs. Seahawks38:02 Eagles vs. Broncos: A Fourth Quarter Comeback44:30 Vikings vs. Browns: A Sleepy Game46:41 Titans vs. Cardinals: A Missed Opportunity51:11 Commanders vs. Chargers: A Turnaround Victory54:19 Game Highlights and Player Performances59:15 Team Struggles and Coaching Decisions01:04:08 Analysis of Blowout Games01:08:51 Reflections on Fan Experiences and Team Futures

Rod Villagomez and Munaf Manji talk NFL fantasy football for week 1 Week one of the NFL season is here, and fantasy football owners are facing those familiar flex spot dilemmas that often decide championships. Rod Villagomez and Munaf Manji dive deep into the most pressing start-sit questions, breaking down wide receiver matchups, running back depth charts, and how injuries shape early lineups . The discussion opens with Cooper Kupp's sharp decline and Ricky Pearsall's rise as San Francisco's surprise weapon. With Brandon Aiyuk banged up and Deebo Samuel absent, Purdy's chemistry with Pearsall makes him the stronger play, especially compared to Kupp adapting to a new offense in Seattle. Munaf reinforces the point, stressing that Pearsall's end-of-season surge and target share translate into legitimate WR2 or flex value. The pair even rank Pearsall above Calvin Ridley in week one, given Ridley's tough matchup against Denver's shutdown corner Patrick Surtain . The show then pivots to DJ Moore versus DK Metcalf. Moore's chemistry with Caleb Williams and strong history against Minnesota stand out, but the allure of Aaron Rodgers throwing deep to Metcalf lingers. Ultimately, both agree that Moore offers the safer floor, while Metcalf is a gamble for owners already trailing after Thursday night. That tension between security and upside is exactly what makes these early-season choices agonizing . Next, they spotlight Mika Yubikei, Tampa Bay's rookie wideout, thrust into action with Chris Godwin sidelined. With Mike Evans drawing top coverage, Yubikei could quietly pile up targets against Atlanta, especially if Baker Mayfield is forced into a shootout. Both Rod and Munaf lean toward starting him, seeing opportunity in volume and game script . Running back depth is another theme. The uncertainty around Christian McCaffrey's calf injury leaves Isaac Guerendo and Brian Robinson Jr. as next-man-up options. Shanahan's system historically leans on multiple backs, and Robinson's signing signals trust. Owners who handcuffed correctly may be rewarded right away. Meanwhile, the hosts debate Cortland Sutton versus Tyrone Tracy Jr. The Broncos receiver brings talent but faces Tennessee's elite pass defense, while Tracy benefits from Washington's leaky run defense. Both lean Tracy, siding with matchup over pedigree . They also tackle Garrett Wilson's value under Justin Fields. Despite quarterback inconsistency, Wilson's target volume makes him hard to bench. Comparing him to Sutton, Munaf sides with Wilson, highlighting how opportunity can outweigh efficiency. Another big-name dilemma: Stefan Diggs versus Jauan Jennings. Diggs, now in New England, offers veteran stability for Drake May, while Jennings is a tertiary option in San Francisco's crowded offense. Both analysts see Diggs as the better play, predicting a potential bounce-back year . The show closes on Austin Ekeler versus Nick Chubb. Ekeler brings dual-threat ability but declining efficiency, while Chubb returns from injury with questions about workload. Rod admits he already benched Ekeler in one league for Chubb, preferring the steadier ground game. They stress that early weeks often spark overreactions, but data on snap counts and usage will soon clarify future decisions. Flex spots may not be glamorous, but as the hosts remind listeners, they swing weekly outcomes and, ultimately, titles . In the end, this week one preview isn't just about names—it's about context, matchups, and opportunity. From Pearsall's emergence in San Francisco to Tracy's rushing upside in New York, the nuances matter. Owners who weigh talent against defensive strength, who balance floor and ceiling, will position themselves for early-season wins. And as always, championships are decided in the margins, in those tricky flex calls that define Sunday glory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode goes into talk show host Terrence J proposing to a 25 year old girlfriend, we also go into Cardi B being pregnant with NFL boyfriend Stefan Diggs. This episode also goes into Lauryn Hill going to Benin Africa for a Ceremony. Hosted by your Pastor Michael Smith and co-hosted by your Brotha Lamick IsraelIf you would like tune in and join Brotha Lamick Young Disciples Discord the link is https://discord.gg/SVQygUP2 If you would like to sign up for the Monthly newsletter/ have a special request/report you would like done email Brotha Lamick Israel at Lamick19@outlook.com

Send us a textThe line between financial survival and digital exploitation has never been thinner. This episode dives headfirst into the uncomfortable reality that we've created: a society where economic pressures push people toward monetizing their most intimate moments while we simultaneously judge them for making that choice.When OnlyFans creators Amanda and Amber's collaboration imploded into a public feud, we witness firsthand how the boundaries between content creation and personal dignity collapse. Amanda's erratic behavior—doing cocaine openly and disrobing inappropriately at social gatherings—reveals the messy underside of an industry that promises easy money but delivers complicated consequences. As one host provocatively asks, "Average people were not meant to do porn...when you put regular people into these situations, who is it for?" The question hangs in the air, unanswered but urgent.The conversation shifts to celebrity culture, examining Kai Cenat's Target sponsorship despite the company's DEI controversies, Drake's seemingly surgically enhanced abs, and Cardi B's rumored breakup with Stefan Diggs. Each story peels back another layer of how social media has transformed fame into a 24/7 performance where authenticity is both demanded and impossible. From Love Island contestants navigating race and relationships on camera to celebrities struggling with their public personas, we're witnessing the collapse of privacy in real-time.Perhaps most chilling is our discussion of the Jeffrey Epstein files "investigation" that conveniently found "no list" despite previous assertions to the contrary. The missing minute from jail surveillance footage and the questionable motivations behind withholding information point to something darker than mere celebrity gossip—the real-world consequences when power, money, and influence collide. What does it say about our society when transparency is promised but never delivered?

This episode goes into an African man being arrested for money ritual that involved his nephew, we also go into the rumors of Cardi B being pregnant by boyfriend Stefan Diggs, and lastly we go into the rumors of Nelly Cheating on Ashanti with an IG Model.Hosted by your Pastor Michael Smith and co-hosted by your Brotha Lamick IsraelIf you would like tune in and join Brotha Lamick Young Disciples Discord the link is https://discord.gg/SVQygUP2 If you would like to sign up for the Monthly newsletter/ have a special request/report you would like done email Brotha Lamick Israel at Lamick19@outlook.com

In this episode, Shanti and Antoinette lament the loss of lightning bugs. After listening to caller voicemails, we catch up on pop culture! We discuss the recent interview between T.S. Madison and Nene Leakes. Together, we explore what it means to be a true ally to the transgender community, while acknowledging the areas in which we have more work to do personally as we reflect on our own biases. We comment on Cardi B's new relationship with Stefan Diggs and share our favorite 'breakup upgrades". We remember Ananda Lewis, reflecting on her impact and legacy. Lastly, we conclude with updates on the Diddy trial. exploring the testimonies of various women, the psychological trauma that victims endure, and the addictive nature of abusive dynamics. Join us...Contact Us:Hotline: (215) 948-2780Email: aroundthewaycurls@gmail.comPatreon: www.patreon.com/aroundthewaycurls for exclusive videos & bonus episodesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Let's close out May with a bang in a brand new, entertaining edition of Productive Conversations, diving into everything that's been trending this past week.We Talk:Sydney Sweeney Soap Stefon DiggsThe Paradox Freddy Mercury Had a Child?WNBA Jake TapperAnd more Check out this quality episode of the Productive Conversations Podcast, on all Podcasting Platforms and YouTube. Ep 549----Stefan Diggs (4:30)Sydney Sweeney Soap (17:45)Freddy Mercury (27:25)The Paradox (34:30)WNBA (48:10)Jake Tapper (1:05:30)People who are not smart (1:15:12)Disgrace (1:18:12)Guy who fights followers (1:35:12)Shane Gillis Story (1:40:11)#trending #podcast #sports #news #entertainment #culture ----Best way to contact our host is by emailing him at productiveconversationspodcast@gmail.com or mbrown3212@gmail.comThis show has been brought to you by Magic Mind!Right now you can get your Magic Mind at WWW.MAGICMIND.COM/ PCLT20 to get 20% off a one-time purchase or up to 48% off a subscription using that code PCLT20.  Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/productive-conversations-with-matt-brown/id1535871441 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7qCsxuzYYoeqALrWu4x4Kb YouTube: @Productive_Conversations  Linktree:https://linktr.ee/productiveconversations

In this sunshine-soaked Thursday edition of The Coffee Club, hosts Janae and Ronnie bring the weekend vibes early with updates on local events, feel-good community news, and a flavorful guest lineup. Highlights include Fargo Marathon road closures, vehicle safety trends in North Dakota, and a deliciously entertaining appearance from rising bluegrass star Aaron Neihus (and yes, he performs live in-studio!). The show wraps up with foodie fun from Christine at Reese and Riley's, who surprises the hosts with vegan-friendly dishes and a crash course in charcuterie evolution (spoiler: it used to be just a meat and cheese tray!). Add in quirky facts, Stefan Diggs yacht drama, and deep dives into McDonald's history, and you've got a morning blend as smooth as ceramic-coated SUVs.

In this episode, the hosts dive into the excitement of March Madness, discussing their brackets and predictions for the NCAA tournament. They analyze the performance of teams like Duke and Houston, highlighting key players and matchups. The conversation shifts to the women's tournament, where Paige Bueckers is making history. Finally, they touch on recent NFL offseason moves, particularly the signing of Stefan Diggs by the Patriots, and the implications of such a contract. In this segment, the conversation revolves around the recent trade decisions made by the Patriots, particularly focusing on the acquisition of Stefan Diggs. The hosts analyze the implications of this trade, discussing the potential impact on the team's offense and the need for additional receiving threats. They also delve into draft strategies, evaluating potential picks and the importance of building a strong roster. The discussion shifts to the controversial 'tush push' play and its effectiveness, followed by a debate on the NFL's overtime rules and their implications for game strategy. In this episode, the hosts discuss various topics related to the NBA, including overtime proposals, standout performances from players like Steph Curry and Jokic, MVP discussions, and the scariest players in the league. They also explore potential fixes for the NBA, such as shortening the season and expanding the league's global reach.   0:00 Intro & March Madness Bracket Breakdown 19:27 Women's Tournament Highlights 22:36 Evaluating Stefan Diggs' Impact 30:02 The Future of the Patriots' Offense 33:16 Draft Strategies and Player Evaluations 37:33 The Tush Push Debate 47:35 NFL Overtime Rules Discussion 53:20 NBA Highlights: Steph Curry and Jokic's Performances 58:43 MVP Discussions: Jokic vs. SGA 01:00:15 Scariest Players in the NBA 01:14:09 Fixing the NBA: Shorter Seasons and Global Tours   FOLLOW THE BROTHAS ON Instagram -https://www.instagram.com/warnerbrothaspodcast/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@thewarnerbrothaspodcast Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/warnerbrothaspodcast X - https://x.com/warnerbrospod

The fellas are back and discussing the Steelers, A-Rod, Stefan Diggs signing and Dangeruss getting paid.

Join us for the headlines from last week. 00:00:51 - Week of 10-29-2024 Rundown NFL Mike McCarthy said Trevon Diggs has to be better after the reporter incident Giants Deonte Banks, Daniel Jones to start vs Commanders 49ers Charvarius Ward announces death of 1-year-old daughter Stefan Diggs out for the season with torn ACL Ravens trade for Panthers WR Donate Johnson Colts bench Anthony Richardson, turns to Joe Flacco NBA Sources:  Jazz's Hendricks to miss rest of season Sources:  Lakers' Christian Koloko medically cleared to play NBA promotes JD Ralls, Tyler Ricks to full-time referee staff Rudy Gay retires after 17 NBA seasons Warriors' Wiggins (Back strain) out vs Pelicans Sixers fined $100K in relation to Embiid's status Miscellaneous World Series WNBA doesn't fine Lynx coach Cheryl Reeve, source says 00:10:16 - 10-30-2024 Rundown NFL Drake Maye in concussion protocol, will be limited in practice Jets put Greg Zuelein on IR, add two kickers for Texans game Antonio Pierce said Raiders must clean up playcalling, offensive issues Going to Flacco over Richardson helps Colts win now - Shane Steichen Cowboys Trevon Diggs apologizes after confrontation with reporter Bills Von Miller happy all of that stuff is behind me after ban Panthers will start Bryce Young, Jonathon Brooks may make debut Derek Carr is expected to return, says he's no savior Packers Jordan Love sees realistic shot to play vs Lions NBA Raptors' Scottie Barnes out weeks with orbital fracture MRI on Lonzo Ball shows between Grade 1, 2 sprain.  Out at least 10 days 2nd person pleads guilty in Porter betting scheme (Mahmud Mollah) Hawks' Bogdanovic (hamstring out at least a month Miscellaneous 00:23:06 - 10-31-2024 Rundown NFL Jets place Allen Lazard on IR, likely to keep Mike Williams Saints WR Chris Olave considering wearing Guardian Cap Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan among 9 coaching Hall of Fame candidates NBA Sources:  Sixers eye Embiid debut amid progress Warriors exercise option on Brandin Podziemski's contract Sources:  Lakers decline option on Jalen Hood-Schifino Sources:  Bucks declining MarJon Beauchamp's option Magic's Banchero questionable Friday vs Cavs NBA scores, 11 games from last night Miscellaneous Word Series 00:33:50 - 11-04-2024 Rundown NFL Raiders fire offensive coordinator Luke Getsy, two others (James Cregg OL Coach, Rich Scangarello QB coach) Bengals coach says RB Zack Moss sidelined indefinitely (neck) 49ers star RB CMC returns to practice Cowboys' Dakota Prescott expected to miss several weeks and CeeDee Lamb has a sprained AC joint Broncos sign OLB Jonathon Cooper to 4-year extension Bears stick with Shane Waldron as play caller despite struggles Cardinals trade for Broncos pass rusher Baron Browning Saints fire coach Dennis Allen after seventh loss in a row NBA Magic star Banchero sidelined with torn oblique Grizzlies say injured Desmond Bane, Marcus Smart week-to-week Pelicans lose C.J. McCollum, Herb jones to injuries Nuggets Jamal Murray in concussion protocol Spurs' Pops health issues is out, Mitch Johnson to take over NBA reopening investigation into Lakers' Jaxson Hayes Bucks Bobby Portis says home was burglarized Paul George to make 76ers season debut tonight Sources:  Knicks, Ariel Hukporti agree on standard two-year deal Donnie Nelson's suit vs Mavs dismissed with prejudice Miscellaneous Election Tyler Marsh hired as Sky's new head coach Fever hires Stephanie White as new head coach #DTSTInspire #DTST #podcast #podcasters #opinion #debate #twins #latestsportsheadlines --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/double-take-sports-talk/support

Panic in the streets or diamond hands? Steven, Andrew, and Jacob go over some players you should be trading for and away after week 1. All that you need to fleece your league-mates and win a beautiful trophy!Follow:@fantasyguides on IGVisit: https://fantasyguides.com/ and get you a season guide!Intro and News: 0:00Amari Cooper: 10:00Mark Andrews: 13:00Ladd McConkey: 17:00Stefon Diggs: 21:30Baker Mayfield: 27:00Xavier Worthy: 30:00Get your copy of our 2024 Fantasy Football Draft Guide with an annual subscription. You won't be disappointed. Check it out! https://fantasyguides.com/pages/membership

HOUR 4 - Seth and Sean break down which matchups they want to see most in tomorrow's Texans @ Steelers game, dive into everyone overreacting to how Josh Allen answered when asked if he misses Stefan Diggs, and discuss how DeMeco responded when Kay Adams asked who the number 1 WR is.

The guys get together the forecast what we can expect from the Stefan Diggs trade and cover a handful of rookies with the draft only a few weeks away. Follow: @DLFpodcast @dmeylor22 @MattPriceFF @RyanMc23

Bump and Stacy break down what the Mariners have done wrong in their first week of the season and what they need to do to get right after their slow start, they give you their thoughts on the future of College Football and the Oakland A’s move to Sacramento, and they explain why Stefan Diggs trade made it more likely for the Seahawks to trade down in the NFL Draft. 

Bump and Stacy are joined by Bob Condotta of The Seattle Times to discuss what the Stefan Diggs trade means for DK Metcalf and to break down what he expected to see from the Seahawks in the first round of the Draft, they answer your questions about the Stefon Diggs trade and Michael Penix in Four Down Territory, they hop aboard the Hype Train, and they wrap up the show by telling you what you need to know!