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Welcome back to this Rainy Day Conversation around Greatheart's Table with Dr. Elizabeth Pennock, the the Director of the Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. Dr. Pennock specializes in trauma and particularly how churches can care for the victims of trauma. She brings a great deal of compassion and warmth to this difficult subject. If you've not listened to the first part of this interview, I encourage you to do so. In the previous installment of this interview with Dr. Pennock, one of her points was that the ability to deal with trauma is born out of a healthy emotional intelligence. And so we pick up the discussion here considering something of how that can be measured or assessed, as well as developed. We encourage you to also subscribe to our newsletter where, on third Mondays and at other times there may be additional content. You can do so here. You can help support this podcast by supporting us on Patreon. You can do so here. EPISODE NOTES Notes and resources relevant to this episode: For an explanation of the name and intention of these occasional interviews, read this, or listen to it here or here. Trauma Informed Ministry Slides Emotionally Healthy Spirituality: It’s Impossible to Be Spiritually Mature, While Remaining Emotionally Immature, Peter Scazzero Attachments: Why You Love, Feel, and ACT the Way You Do, Tim Clinton and Gary Sibcy Dawn of Sunday: The Trinity and Trauma-Safe Churches, (Joshua Cockayne, Scott Harrower, Preston Hill) Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis Under the Unpredictable Plant: An Exploration in Vocational Holiness, Eugene Peterson The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out, Brennan Manning When you buy a book using a link on this page, Greatheart's Table receives a commission. Thank you for supporting this work! Podcast music provided by Cool Hand Luke and used with permission.Intro: “Holy Vanguard” / LyricsOutro: “Wonder Tour” / Lyrics / Video To find our more about Greatheart's Table, visit us here.
Brady serves as the lead teaching pastor of Keystone Community Church in Ada, Michigan. He is passionate about communicating the story of God in a way that is relevant, engaging and applicable. A graduate of the University of Michigan and Western Theological Seminary, Brady is an avid Wolverine fan, coffee drinker, and home improvement aficionado. He lives in Ada with his amazing wife Sarah Anne, four boys, three cats, two dogs and six chickens.
Brady serves as the lead teaching pastor of Keystone Community Church in Ada, Michigan. He is passionate about communicating the story of God in a way that is relevant, engaging and applicable. A graduate of the University of Michigan and Western Theological Seminary, Brady is an avid Wolverine fan, coffee drinker, and home improvement aficionado. He lives in Ada with his amazing wife Sarah Anne, four boys, three cats, two dogs and six chickens.
Brady serves as the lead teaching pastor of Keystone Community Church in Ada, Michigan. He is passionate about communicating the story of God in a way that is relevant, engaging and applicable. A graduate of the University of Michigan and Western Theological Seminary, Brady is an avid Wolverine fan, coffee drinker, and home improvement aficionado. He lives in Ada with his amazing wife Sarah Anne, four boys, three cats, two dogs and six chickens.
Brady serves as the lead teaching pastor of Keystone Community Church in Ada, Michigan. He is passionate about communicating the story of God in a way that is relevant, engaging and applicable. A graduate of the University of Michigan and Western Theological Seminary, Brady is an avid Wolverine fan, coffee drinker, and home improvement aficionado. He lives in Ada with his amazing wife Sarah Anne, four boys, three cats, two dogs and six chickens.
We are joined in this episode by Dr. Elizabeth Pennock. Dr. Pennock is the Director of the Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. She received her PhD at the University of Central Florida and her dissertation was titled “Trauma-Informed Clergy: An Investigation of Factors Predicting the Trauma-Related Attitudes of Christian Clergy in Florida.” She is therefore ideally situated to help pastors and others examine what they bring to ministry that is either helpful or harmful to those in their churches who have faced or are facing trauma in their lives. But it's not just Dr. Pennock's academic training that makes her a valuable resource. She brings to this conversation not only a love for those bearing trauma, but al a great love for the church and for those who shepherd the church. And as well she is a gentle and caring soul. I know you will benefit from her insights. This is part one of a two part conversation. I hope you are able to take in both. We encourage you to also subscribe to our newsletter where, on third Mondays and at other times there may be additional content. You can do so here. You can help support this podcast by supporting us on Patreon. You can do so here. EPISODE NOTES Notes and resources relevant to this episode: For an explanation of the name and intention of these occasional interviews, read this, or listen to it here or here. Trauma Informed Ministry Slides Emotionally Healthy Spirituality: It’s Impossible to Be Spiritually Mature, While Remaining Emotionally Immature, Peter Scazzero Attachments: Why You Love, Feel, and ACT the Way You Do, Tim Clinton and Gary Sibcy Dawn of Sunday: The Trinity and Trauma-Safe Churches, (Joshua Cockayne, Scott Harrower, Preston Hill) Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis Under the Unpredictable Plant: An Exploration in Vocational Holiness, Eugene Peterson The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out, Brennan Manning When you buy a book using a link on this page, Greatheart's Table receives a commission. Thank you for supporting this work! Podcast music provided by Cool Hand Luke and used with permission.Intro: “Holy Vanguard” / LyricsOutro: “Wonder Tour” / Lyrics / Video To find our more about Greatheart's Table, visit us here.
Brady serves as the lead teaching pastor of Keystone Community Church in Ada, Michigan. He is passionate about communicating the story of God in a way that is relevant, engaging and applicable. A graduate of the University of Michigan and Western Theological Seminary, Brady is an avid Wolverine fan, coffee drinker, and home improvement aficionado. He lives in Ada with his amazing wife Sarah Anne, four boys, three cats, two dogs and six chickens.
Brady serves as the lead teaching pastor of Keystone Community Church in Ada, Michigan. He is passionate about communicating the story of God in a way that is relevant, engaging and applicable. A graduate of the University of Michigan and Western Theological Seminary, Brady is an avid Wolverine fan, coffee drinker, and home improvement aficionado. He lives in Ada with his amazing wife Sarah Anne, four boys, three cats, two dogs and six chickens.
What does it mean to find home in a wounded world? In this deeply moving episode of Now and Then ...Again, host Wendy VanderWal Martin welcomes Dr. Carlos Thompson, professor of Christian Ministry and Disability at Western Theological Seminary and steward of the Friendship House Fellows Program. Fresh from his keynote address at the Henri Nouwen Society's international conference, Longing for Home: The Prophetic Witness of Henri Nouwen in a Wounded World, Carlos reflects on the enduring wisdom of Henri Nouwen and the surprising places where God meets us. Drawing from Nouwen's vision of the “wounded healer,” Carlos explores why our deepest longings cannot be fulfilled through achievement, expertise, or self-sufficiency. Instead, home is something we receive—not create. Through stories of community, disability, friendship, and faith, he offers a powerful invitation to embrace vulnerability, honor our human neediness, and become fellow travelers with one another. This conversation challenges the myth of independence and reveals how belonging is discovered in relationship—with God and with others. Thoughtful, honest, and hope-filled, it is a rich exploration of what it means to slow down, “waste time” with Jesus, and discover that the very needs we try to hide may be the doorway to divine belonging. If you long for deeper connection, this episode is for you. Resources & Links Western Theological Seminary: https://www.westernsem.edu/ Friendship House: https://www.westernsem.edu/beyond-the-classroom/friendship-house/ Bio and Contact for Carlos: https://www.westernsem.edu/faculty/thompson/ Book Discussed: Wounded Healer Finding Our Way Home * TO DONATE & SUPPORT: https://henrinouwen.org/donate/ * SIGN UP FOR FREE DAILY E-MEDITATIONS: https://henrinouwen.org/meditation/ * MORE FREE RESOURCES: https://henrinouwen.org/ * FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/henrinouwensociety/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/nouwensociety FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/nouwensociety/ PINTEREST: https://www.pinterest.ca/henrinouwen/
Here at The Bulletin, our summer programming is underway and we're re-airing our best segments around a theme. This week: Clarissa sits down with author Sara Billups to unpack our collective societal anxiety and how to navigate it in our daily lives. Sheila Wise Rowe chats with Mike and Russell about managing pressure as a ministry leader and Steve Cuss explains healthy ways to handle workplace stress. REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE: Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics by Sara Billups Healing Leadership Trauma by Sheila Wise Rowe and Nicholas Rowe Being Human with Steve Cuss GO DEEPER WITH THE BULLETIN: Join the conversation at our Substack. Find us on YouTube. Rate and review the show in your podcast app of choice. ABOUT THE GUESTS: Sara Billups is a Seattle-based writer and cultural commentator whose work has appeared in The New York Times, Christianity Today, Aspen Ideas, and others. Sara writes Bitter Scroll, a monthly Substack letter and co-hosts the podcast That's the Spirit. She earned a Doctor of Ministry in the Sacred Art of Writing at the Peterson Center for the Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary. Sheila Wise Rowe is a graduate of Tufts University and Cambridge College with a master's degree in counseling psychology. She has over thirty years of experience as a Christian Counselor, Spiritual Director, Educator, Writer, and Speaker. Sheila has counseled women, children, couples, emerging, and established leaders and taught counseling in Massachusetts, Paris France, virtually. And for a decade in Johannesburg, South Africa where she also ministered to homeless and abused women and children. Sheila's essays can be found in numerous blogs, newspapers, journals, and books. In 2020 she authored the award-winning book, Healing Racial Trauma: The Road to Resilience. Recently she wrote Young, Gifted, and Black: A Journey of Lament and Celebration and has co-authored Healing Leadership Trauma. Steve Cuss is a pastor, former chaplain, and founder of Capable Life which helps people lower internal and relational anxiety in the workplace and at home. He is the author of Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs and The Expectation Gap: The Tiny, Vast Space between Our Beliefs and Experience of God. Steve hosts the CT Media podcast, Being Human. ABOUT THE BULLETIN: The Bulletin is a twice-weekly news analysis podcast from Christianity Today, with editor-at-large Russell Moore. Each episode offers commentary on current events and headlining news with a roundtable of premier guests, and shares a Christian perspective on issues that are shaping our world The Bulletin listeners get 25% off CT. Go to https://orderct.com/THEBULLETIN to learn more. “The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Host: Leslie Thompson Associate Producers: Alexa Burke and Crystal Dady Editing and Mix: Kevin Morris Graphic Design: Rick Szuecs Music: Dan Phelps Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Senior Producer: Matt Stevens Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
What happens when a pastor realizes they're going through the motions—but not actually experiencing God? In this episode, Loren talks with Rev. Dr. Katherine Willis Pershey about faith, formation, and the unexpected influence of Eugene Peterson on her life and ministry. Drawing from her own journey across multiple Christian traditions, Katherine reflects on the tension between justice, belief, and personal encounter with God. The conversation explores how Peterson's writing helped her rediscover prayer, Scripture, and the heart of pastoral vocation—not as performance or productivity, but as attentiveness to a living, active God. They also wrestle with the challenges of ministry in a secular age, the pressures facing pastors today, and the difficulty of maintaining spiritual depth in a culture shaped by busyness and division. They discuss the false divide between personal piety and social justice, the importance of spiritual practices like prayer and worship, and what it means to lead faithfully in a fragmented and polarized church landscape. Together they explore: How Eugene Peterson reshaped her understanding of ministry The struggle to experience God while leading a church Why personal piety and social justice belong together The dangers of a purely “therapeutic” model of ministry What it means to believe in a real, active God today Navigating faith across evangelical and progressive divides Why pastors must protect time for prayer and reading Katherine Willis Pershey serves as co-pastor of First Congregational UCC Appleton, Wisconsin, having previously served congregations in Illinois and California. She is the author of Very Married: Field Notes on Love and Fidelity and co-author of Love Letters to God, and is a regular contributor to the Christian Century. She received a DMin from the Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary in 2024. Mentioned Resources:
In this week's episode of the Reformed Journal Podcast, the poetry edition, Rose Postma interviews Alex Arthurs about his poem “Broken Balm.” Alex is husband to Sara, father to Luella, and dog-dad to Penny. A graduate of Hope College and Western Theological Seminary, Alex is ordained in the Reformed Church in America and has served churches in New Jersey and Michigan. He currently serves as the Pastor of Preaching and Discipleship at Calvary Christian Reformed Church in Holland, Michigan.
Most people assume their distance from God is a faith problem. It may be something older — a pattern in the nervous system, learned long before you had words for it, that quietly shapes how close you let God come.Dr. Geoff Holsclaw and his wife Cyd spent years watching people plateau spiritually and realized the stall wasn't theological — it was relational. This conversation traces how our earliest attachment wounds create an image of God in our own likeness, why trying harder to believe rarely moves us from the head to the heart, and what it looks like to run new experiments in faith that slowly rewrite those patterns from the inside out.Geoff also unpacks three concrete practices — cultivating joy, naming river and wilderness moments, and silence and solitude — and why the same practice works entirely differently depending on your attachment landscape.Dr. Geoff Holsclaw is a pastor, theologian, and professor in the Doctor of Ministry program at Western Theological Seminary, and co-author with Cyd Holsclaw of Landscapes of the Soul.Support the showENGAGE THE RESTORING THE SOUL PODCAST:- Follow us on YouTube - Tweet us at @michaeljcusick and @PodcastRTS- Like us on Facebook- Follow us on Instagram & Twitter- Follow Michael on Twitter- Email us at info@restoringthesoul.com Thanks for listening!
Allen speaks with Chuck about the story behind his new book, Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself -- and to God -- When You're Wounded, Weary and Wandering. Chuck shares the inner turmoil that led him to eventually write the book.His insight and understanding of the deepest needs in our lives for healing and understanding is rooted in the healing power of drawing close to God in our darkest moments to find hope in our emotional, mental and physical healing journey.Chuck DeGroat is a professor at Western Theological Seminary. Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality and Founding Executive Director of the Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary Holland MI. He is also a faculty member for the Soul Care Institute.https://www.chuckdegroat.net/Healing What's Within on Amazon: https://a.co/d/0688j1UTYou can leave your questions or comments below or contacthopefortheagora@gmail.comagoranetworkministries.com
"Send us a message! (questions, feedback, etc.)"Does a focus on acknowledging trauma and providing safety create more resilient or fragile people? That question is at the heart of many charged discussions about therapy and trauma work. Virtually every contemporary therapeutic modality recognizes the impact trauma has on our current struggles. But many people feel it's too much focus, and that the result is people who can't handle anything difficult and who call "trauma" on everything that's hard in life.Chuck DeGroat has a lot to say about this. He has been a pastor, and is currently a therapist, author, and seminary professor (Western Theological Seminary) who specializes in pastoral & leadership health, abuse & trauma, and navigating spiritual & emotional obstacles on the faith journey.Chuck is the author of multiple books, including When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse and Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself and to God When You're Weary, Wounded, and Wandering. He also authors a Substack page (Sit With Chuck), and a recent post is the subject of most of our conversation.Chuck lives in Grand Rapids, Michigan with his wife. They have two grown daughters.#chuckdegroat #sitwithchuck #connection #counseling #spirituality #growth #change #therapy #healing #trauma #narcissism #sexuality #addiction #betrayaltrauma #recovery #grace #gospel #transformationChuck's personal pageSit With Chuck (Substack page, see "Safety and Suffering" posted 1/22/26)Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling program at Western Seminary Support the showAwaken websiteRoots Retreat Men's IntensiveRoots Retreat Women's WorkshopAwaken Men & Women's support meeting info (including virtual)
It's a bit of a cliché to say that we live in uncertain times. Just look at the headlines. Relationships — from the global to the intimate — are fraying. We swim in waters full of fear and worry, contempt and disdain. Anxiety abounds. That's why today's guest — writer and cultural commentator, Sara Billups — has written a new book. It's called “Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church and Politics.” It's out now and — spoiler alert — Billups writes quite a bit about Ignatian spirituality. She looks to Ignatius' all-important idea of holy indifference as a way of approaching the anxiety-inducing moment in which we all find ourselves. You may recall that when Ignatius says “indifference,” he's not promoting a lifestyle that is apathetic or callous to the signs of the times. Rather, Ignatius wants us to let go of how we want things to go and to instead allow God's Spirit to use us as they Spirit wills. In short, God's ways are not our ways; so, let's put aside our preferences and discover God's. In addition to this new book, “Nervous Systems,” Billups has bylines in the New York Times and Christianity Today. She completed a Doctor of Ministry in the Sacred Art of Writing at Peterson Cetner for the Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary. She writes a Substack called “Bitter Scroll” and hosts a podcast called “That's the Spirit.” You can learn more about Sara and her work by exploring the links below. Website: https://www.sarabillups.com/ Order the book: https://www.amazon.com/Nervous-Systems-Spiritual-Practices-Politics-ebook/dp/B0F2NC1QDL Substack: https://www.sarabillups.com/bitter-scroll
In this episode podcaster and spiritual director, Josh Banner with Keith Reynolds, and Robert Caldwell explores how the church can embody creative, justice-oriented responses to today's social realities by centering marginalized communities and reimagining spiritual formation as social transformation. Guests: • Keith Reynolds (Western Theological Seminary) • Robert Caldwell (Answer Poverty) Key Topics: • Church and social justice • Community development • Faith in action • Racial equity • Creative ministry models 00:00 – Introduction • Opening thoughts on not being anxious about current events and the call for the church to focus on supporting marginalized people. 00:32 – Organizing for Impact • Discussion on how resources are used to meet material needs in the community. 00:47 – New Wine, Old Wineskins • Reflection on the need for new approaches in faith and community work. 01:03 – Suffering and Imagination • The idea that suffering requires imagination and leads to collective genius, especially in the Black community. 01:25 – Robert Caldwell's Influence • Robert's non-reactionary approach and the wisdom gained from elders. 01:51 – Episode Overview • Host Josh introduces guests Keith Reynolds and Robert Caldwell, and outlines the themes of the episode: church planting, justice, and hope. 02:36 – Orientation and Vision • Robert shares his story; Keith discusses his vision for a new kind of church. 04:20 – Turning to Hope • Encouragement to focus on good news and practice hope despite a difficult news cycle. 05:40 – Love and Justice • Exploring the connection between loving God, neighbor, and self; justice as love in action. 09:00 – Personal Journeys • Keith and Robert share their backgrounds, vocational journeys, and the importance of mentorship and legacy. 16:36 – Church Planting and Community • Keith describes the influence of Robert on his approach to church and community development. 36:14 – Closing Reflections • The episode closes with thoughts on witness, legacy, and the ongoing journey of faith and justice. For more information visit: www.theinvitationcenter.org For information about the pending DMin cohort at Western Theological Seminary, visit: https://www.westernsem.edu/admissions/
The federal government inches towards reopening as five Democratic senators signal they will join Republicans in passing legislation to fund the government. SNAP benefits were in question during the shutdown– how can Christians think about the role of the federal government in providing food assistance? And we haven't heard much in the news about Iran recently; what's going on there? Mike Cosper and Clarissa Moll discuss these headlines, and Clarissa talks with Sara Billups about how to address anxiety through embodied, spiritual practices. REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE: -Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics by Sara Billups. GO DEEPER WITH THE BULLETIN: -Join the conversation at our Substack. -Find us on YouTube. -Rate and review the show in your podcast app of choice. ABOUT THE GUESTS: Sara Billups is a Seattle-based writer and cultural commentator whose work has appeared in The New York Times, Christianity Today, Aspen Ideas, and others. Sara writes Bitter Scroll, a monthly Substack letter and co-hosts the podcast That's the Spirit. She earned a Doctor of Ministry in the Sacred Art of Writing at the Peterson Center for the Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary. ABOUT THE BULLETIN: The Bulletin is a twice-weekly politics and current events show from Christianity Today moderated by Clarissa Moll, with senior commentary from Russell Moore (Christianity Today's editor-at-large and columnist) and Mike Cosper (senior contributor). Each week, the show explores current events and breaking news and shares a Christian perspective on issues that are shaping our world. We also offer special one-on-one conversations with writers, artists, and thought leaders whose impact on the world brings important significance to a Christian worldview, like Bono, Sharon McMahon, Harrison Scott Key, Frank Bruni, and more. The Bulletin listeners get 25% off CT. Go to https://orderct.com/THEBULLETIN to learn more. “The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Producer: Clarissa Moll Associate Producer: Alexa Burke Editing and Mix: Kevin Morris Graphic Design: Rick Szuecs Music: Dan Phelps Executive Producers: Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper Senior Producer: Matt Stevens Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Sara Billups returns to Shifting Culture to talk about her new book Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics. Together we explore the anxiety running through our lives, our churches, and our culture and what it means to find peace that's deeper than control. Sara shares how Ignatian spirituality and the practice of “holy indifference” can help us let go, stay present, and love well in a restless world. We talk about caregiving, community, mental health, and how the embodied way of Jesus leads us toward healing, trust, and wholeness.Sara Billups is a Seattle-based writer and cultural commentator whose work has appeared in the New York Times, Christianity Today, Aspen Ideas, and others. Sara writes Bitter Scroll, a monthly Substack letter and co-hosts the podcast That's the Spirit. She earned a Doctor of Ministry in the Sacred Art of Writing at the Peterson Center for the Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary. Sara works to help wavering Christians remain steadfast through cultural storms and continues to hope for the flourishing of the Church amid deep political and cultural division in America.Her first book, Orphaned Believers, follows the journey of a generation raised in the 80s and 90s of evangelicalism reckoning with the tradition that raised them and searching for a new way to participate in the story of God. Her second book, Nervous Systems, will be released November 4, 2025, from Baker Books.Sara's Book:Nervous SystemsSara's Recommendations:Slow HorsesSemi Permanent by Molly PardenConnect with Joshua: jjohnson@shiftingculturepodcast.comGo to www.shiftingculturepodcast.com to interact and donate. Every donation helps to produce more podcasts for you to enjoy.Follow on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Threads, Bluesky or YouTubeConsider Giving to the podcast and to the ministry that my wife and I do around the world. Just click on the support the show link below Contact me to advertise: jjohnson@shiftingculturepodcast.com Catch On Fire PodcastsThis channel does a deep dive into the scriptures so as to teach what it means to be...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
Chuck DeGroat is a follower of Jesus, a husband to Sara for 31 years, and a father to two amazing daughters. He serves as Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality and Executive Director of the Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary, Holland, MI. He is also a faculty member for the Soul Care Institute. He is a licensed therapist, a spiritual director, author of six books, and retreat leader/speaker. As a therapist, he has specialized in pastoral (and leadership) health, abuse and trauma, and navigating spiritual and emotional obstacles on the faith journey. He just founded a new graduate clinical counseling program at Western Theological Seminary. He is the author of “Healing What's Within: Coming Home to Yourself and to God When You're Wounded, Weary, and Wandering”.
Attachment to God!What a huge topic to cover! Today, Dr. Stephanie and Barbara talk with Geoffrey & Cyd Holsclaw about intimacy and attachment to God.We continue our month-long deep dive on ATTACHMENT/INTIMACY.Topics in our discussion: Right brain vs left brain stuff- logical approach to knowing about God, to relational attachment to or with God.The old marriage triangle of husband and wife at the bottom, as you grow closer to God, you grow closer to each other. What is right and wrong about thatBarriers to attachment with God?How church trauma or trauma in a marriage can impact one's view of God or attachment to God. About our Guests:Geoff Holsclaw (PhD) is an author of multiple books, a visiting professor of theology at Western Theological Seminary, and co-founder of the Center for Embodied Faith (embodiedfaith.life). Co-author of the forthcoming Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection. Cyd Holsclaw is an author, spiritual director, and pastor. She is also a trauma-informed, Jesus-centered, professional certified coach focused on embodied practices and building a secure attachment to God. Co-author of the forthcoming Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection.Learn more at www.cydholsclaw.com
What if the true measure of ministry isn't size or success—but simple faithfulness to Jesus? In this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast, Daniel Im—author, pastor, and disciple-maker—shares his powerful journey from disillusionment in ministry to a renewed vision for the local church. He opens up about his own season of pain and healing, challenges traditional church growth models, and invites us to embrace the call of making disciples who make disciples. This conversation is both deeply pastoral and profoundly practical for anyone passionate about the Great Commission. Main Points Faithfulness Over Greatness – Why doing things for a great God matters more than striving for great things. Healing from Disillusionment – Daniel's 14-year journey of pain, surrender, and renewed calling. Rethinking Church Growth – Moving beyond numbers and attractional models to Spirit-led ministry. A Framework for Discipleship – Four simple practices: gather, grow, give, and go together. The Lausanne Vision – How disciple-making churches can awaken cities and nations to King Jesus. Call to Action If this conversation encouraged you, take a moment to subscribe to the Lausanne Movement Podcast, leave a review, and share this episode with someone passionate about discipleship and the global church. Links & Resources Daniel Im's website: danielim.com The Discipleship Opportunity by Daniel Im: https://www.amazon.com/Discipleship-Opportunity-Leading-Great-Commission-Post-Everything/dp/1641587490 No Silver Bullets by Daniel Im: https://www.amazon.com/No-Silver-Bullets-Transform-Ministry/dp/1433651548 Guest Bio Daniel Im is the Lead Pastor of Beulah Alliance Church in Edmonton, Alberta, a Bible teacher on 100 Huntley Street, and the author of several books including The Discipleship Opportunity: Leading a Great-Commission Church in a Post-Everything World, No Silver Bullets, Planting Missional Churches, and You Are What You Do. He has served in churches ranging from 100 to 50,000 people across Canada, Korea, and the U.S., and is currently pursuing a Doctor of Ministry in Spiritual Formation and Relational Neuroscience from Western Theological Seminary. Daniel has co-hosted podcasts with over 3 million downloads and now co-hosts the IMbetween Podcast with his wife, Christina, equipping couples to build marriages and families they love. Married since 2006, Daniel and Christina have three children and speak together at FamilyLife Canada's Weekend Getaway Marriage Conference.
Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of separating ourselves from bad influences. As followers of Christ, it’s crucial to surround ourselves with a community of fellow Christ-followers, as being surrounded by a worldly community can significantly influence our walk with Christ. We see this affirmed in 1 Kings 12, where we see how a young king, Rehboam, took the advice of bad influencers, and it led to destruction. We then turned to the phone lines to hear stories about good and bad influences from our listeners. Then we had Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaws join us to talk about the intersection of faith, neuroscience, and spiritual formation. The Holsclaws are hosts of the podcast Attaching to God and wrote the book, “Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection.” Dr. Geoff has also authored several other books and is a visiting professor of theology at Western Theological Seminary. At the same time, Dr. Cyd is a Spiritual Director and a trauma-informed, Jesus-centered, professional certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She is also a Certified NLP Master Practitioner and Master Coach. We also had Asheritah Ciuciu join us to talk about being sensitive to the presence of God in our lives and embracing it. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries, an online ministry that helps overwhelmed women find joy in Jesus. She also has a YouTube Channel where she posts guided prayers, bible tips, and other resourceful videos. She has also authored several books, including “Delighting in Jesus-Rhythms to Restore Joy When You Feel Burdened, Broken, or Burned-Out.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Caller segment ( Stories Bad influences) [08:03- 20:07] Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw Interview (Faith, Neuroscience and Spiritual Formation) [20:11- 35:31] Asheritah Ciuciu Interview (Delighting in God) [38:15-52:33] Good and Bad Influences Devotion [55:43- 1:00:12] Caller segment ( Stories about Good Advice) [1:00:15- 1:05:12] Karl and Crew airs live weekday mornings from 5-9 a.m. Central Time. Click this link for ways to listen in your area! https://www.moodyradio.org/ways-to-listen/ Donate to Moody Radio: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/morningshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of separating ourselves from bad influences. As followers of Christ, it’s crucial to surround ourselves with a community of fellow Christ-followers, as being surrounded by a worldly community can significantly influence our walk with Christ. We see this affirmed in 1 Kings 12, where we see how a young king, Rehboam, took the advice of bad influencers, and it led to destruction. We then turned to the phone lines to hear stories about good and bad influences from our listeners. Then we had Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaws join us to talk about the intersection of faith, neuroscience, and spiritual formation. The Holsclaws are hosts of the podcast Attaching to God and wrote the book, “Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection.” Dr. Geoff has also authored several other books and is a visiting professor of theology at Western Theological Seminary. At the same time, Dr. Cyd is a Spiritual Director and a trauma-informed, Jesus-centered, professional certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She is also a Certified NLP Master Practitioner and Master Coach. We also had Asheritah Ciuciu join us to talk about being sensitive to the presence of God in our lives and embracing it. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries, an online ministry that helps overwhelmed women find joy in Jesus. She also has a YouTube Channel where she posts guided prayers, bible tips, and other resourceful videos. She has also authored several books, including “Delighting in Jesus-Rhythms to Restore Joy When You Feel Burdened, Broken, or Burned-Out.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Caller segment ( Stories Bad influences) [08:03- 20:07] Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw Interview (Faith, Neuroscience and Spiritual Formation) [20:11- 35:31] Asheritah Ciuciu Interview (Delighting in God) [38:15-52:33] Good and Bad Influences Devotion [55:43- 1:00:12] Caller segment ( Stories about Good Advice) [1:00:15- 1:05:12] Karl and Crew airs live weekday mornings from 5-9 a.m. Central Time. Click this link for ways to listen in your area! https://www.moodyradio.org/ways-to-listen/ Donate to Moody Radio: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/morningshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of separating ourselves from bad influences. As followers of Christ, it’s crucial to surround ourselves with a community of fellow Christ-followers, as being surrounded by a worldly community can significantly influence our walk with Christ. We see this affirmed in 1 Kings 12, where we see how a young king, Rehboam, took the advice of bad influencers, and it led to destruction. We then turned to the phone lines to hear stories about good and bad influences from our listeners. Then we had Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaws join us to talk about the intersection of faith, neuroscience, and spiritual formation. The Holsclaws are hosts of the podcast Attaching to God and wrote the book, “Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection.” Dr. Geoff has also authored several other books and is a visiting professor of theology at Western Theological Seminary. At the same time, Dr. Cyd is a Spiritual Director and a trauma-informed, Jesus-centered, professional certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She is also a Certified NLP Master Practitioner and Master Coach. We also had Asheritah Ciuciu join us to talk about being sensitive to the presence of God in our lives and embracing it. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries, an online ministry that helps overwhelmed women find joy in Jesus. She also has a YouTube Channel where she posts guided prayers, bible tips, and other resourceful videos. She has also authored several books, including “Delighting in Jesus-Rhythms to Restore Joy When You Feel Burdened, Broken, or Burned-Out.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Caller segment ( Stories Bad influences) [08:03- 20:07] Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw Interview (Faith, Neuroscience and Spiritual Formation) [20:11- 35:31] Asheritah Ciuciu Interview (Delighting in God) [38:15-52:33] Good and Bad Influences Devotion [55:43- 1:00:12] Caller segment ( Stories about Good Advice) [1:00:15- 1:05:12] Karl and Crew airs live weekday mornings from 5-9 a.m. Central Time. Click this link for ways to listen in your area! https://www.moodyradio.org/ways-to-listen/ Donate to Moody Radio: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/morningshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of separating ourselves from bad influences. As followers of Christ, it’s crucial to surround ourselves with a community of fellow Christ-followers, as being surrounded by a worldly community can significantly influence our walk with Christ. We see this affirmed in 1 Kings 12, where we see how a young king, Rehboam, took the advice of bad influencers, and it led to destruction. We then turned to the phone lines to hear stories about good and bad influences from our listeners. Then we had Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaws join us to talk about the intersection of faith, neuroscience, and spiritual formation. The Holsclaws are hosts of the podcast Attaching to God and wrote the book, “Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection.” Dr. Geoff has also authored several other books and is a visiting professor of theology at Western Theological Seminary. At the same time, Dr. Cyd is a Spiritual Director and a trauma-informed, Jesus-centered, professional certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She is also a Certified NLP Master Practitioner and Master Coach. We also had Asheritah Ciuciu join us to talk about being sensitive to the presence of God in our lives and embracing it. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries, an online ministry that helps overwhelmed women find joy in Jesus. She also has a YouTube Channel where she posts guided prayers, bible tips, and other resourceful videos. She has also authored several books, including “Delighting in Jesus-Rhythms to Restore Joy When You Feel Burdened, Broken, or Burned-Out.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Caller segment ( Stories Bad influences) [08:03- 20:07] Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw Interview (Faith, Neuroscience and Spiritual Formation) [20:11- 35:31] Asheritah Ciuciu Interview (Delighting in God) [38:15-52:33] Good and Bad Influences Devotion [55:43- 1:00:12] Caller segment ( Stories about Good Advice) [1:00:15- 1:05:12] Karl and Crew airs live weekday mornings from 5-9 a.m. Central Time. Click this link for ways to listen in your area! https://www.moodyradio.org/ways-to-listen/ Donate to Moody Radio: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/morningshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of separating ourselves from bad influences. As followers of Christ, it’s crucial to surround ourselves with a community of fellow Christ-followers, as being surrounded by a worldly community can significantly influence our walk with Christ. We see this affirmed in 1 Kings 12, where we see how a young king, Rehboam, took the advice of bad influencers, and it led to destruction. We then turned to the phone lines to hear stories about good and bad influences from our listeners. Then we had Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaws join us to talk about the intersection of faith, neuroscience, and spiritual formation. The Holsclaws are hosts of the podcast Attaching to God and wrote the book, “Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection.” Dr. Geoff has also authored several other books and is a visiting professor of theology at Western Theological Seminary. At the same time, Dr. Cyd is a Spiritual Director and a trauma-informed, Jesus-centered, professional certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She is also a Certified NLP Master Practitioner and Master Coach. We also had Asheritah Ciuciu join us to talk about being sensitive to the presence of God in our lives and embracing it. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries, an online ministry that helps overwhelmed women find joy in Jesus. She also has a YouTube Channel where she posts guided prayers, bible tips, and other resourceful videos. She has also authored several books, including “Delighting in Jesus-Rhythms to Restore Joy When You Feel Burdened, Broken, or Burned-Out.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Caller segment ( Stories Bad influences) [08:03- 20:07] Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw Interview (Faith, Neuroscience and Spiritual Formation) [20:11- 35:31] Asheritah Ciuciu Interview (Delighting in God) [38:15-52:33] Good and Bad Influences Devotion [55:43- 1:00:12] Caller segment ( Stories about Good Advice) [1:00:15- 1:05:12] Karl and Crew airs live weekday mornings from 5-9 a.m. Central Time. Click this link for ways to listen in your area! https://www.moodyradio.org/ways-to-listen/ Donate to Moody Radio: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/morningshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of separating ourselves from bad influences. As followers of Christ, it’s crucial to surround ourselves with a community of fellow Christ-followers, as being surrounded by a worldly community can significantly influence our walk with Christ. We see this affirmed in 1 Kings 12, where we see how a young king, Rehboam, took the advice of bad influencers, and it led to destruction. We then turned to the phone lines to hear stories about good and bad influences from our listeners. Then we had Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaws join us to talk about the intersection of faith, neuroscience, and spiritual formation. The Holsclaws are hosts of the podcast Attaching to God and wrote the book, “Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection.” Dr. Geoff has also authored several other books and is a visiting professor of theology at Western Theological Seminary. At the same time, Dr. Cyd is a Spiritual Director and a trauma-informed, Jesus-centered, professional certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She is also a Certified NLP Master Practitioner and Master Coach. We also had Asheritah Ciuciu join us to talk about being sensitive to the presence of God in our lives and embracing it. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries, an online ministry that helps overwhelmed women find joy in Jesus. She also has a YouTube Channel where she posts guided prayers, bible tips, and other resourceful videos. She has also authored several books, including “Delighting in Jesus-Rhythms to Restore Joy When You Feel Burdened, Broken, or Burned-Out.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Caller segment ( Stories Bad influences) [08:03- 20:07] Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw Interview (Faith, Neuroscience and Spiritual Formation) [20:11- 35:31] Asheritah Ciuciu Interview (Delighting in God) [38:15-52:33] Good and Bad Influences Devotion [55:43- 1:00:12] Caller segment ( Stories about Good Advice) [1:00:15- 1:05:12] Karl and Crew airs live weekday mornings from 5-9 a.m. Central Time. Click this link for ways to listen in your area! https://www.moodyradio.org/ways-to-listen/ Donate to Moody Radio: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/morningshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of separating ourselves from bad influences. As followers of Christ, it’s crucial to surround ourselves with a community of fellow Christ-followers, as being surrounded by a worldly community can significantly influence our walk with Christ. We see this affirmed in 1 Kings 12, where we see how a young king, Rehboam, took the advice of bad influencers, and it led to destruction. We then turned to the phone lines to hear stories about good and bad influences from our listeners. Then we had Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaws join us to talk about the intersection of faith, neuroscience, and spiritual formation. The Holsclaws are hosts of the podcast Attaching to God and wrote the book, “Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection.” Dr. Geoff has also authored several other books and is a visiting professor of theology at Western Theological Seminary. At the same time, Dr. Cyd is a Spiritual Director and a trauma-informed, Jesus-centered, professional certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She is also a Certified NLP Master Practitioner and Master Coach. We also had Asheritah Ciuciu join us to talk about being sensitive to the presence of God in our lives and embracing it. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries, an online ministry that helps overwhelmed women find joy in Jesus. She also has a YouTube Channel where she posts guided prayers, bible tips, and other resourceful videos. She has also authored several books, including “Delighting in Jesus-Rhythms to Restore Joy When You Feel Burdened, Broken, or Burned-Out.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Caller segment ( Stories Bad influences) [08:03- 20:07] Dr. Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw Interview (Faith, Neuroscience and Spiritual Formation) [20:11- 35:31] Asheritah Ciuciu Interview (Delighting in God) [38:15-52:33] Good and Bad Influences Devotion [55:43- 1:00:12] Caller segment ( Stories about Good Advice) [1:00:15- 1:05:12] Karl and Crew airs live weekday mornings from 5-9 a.m. Central Time. Click this link for ways to listen in your area! https://www.moodyradio.org/ways-to-listen/ Donate to Moody Radio: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/morningshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
"...It's really important that we understand how we're actually living well in our bodies...80% of the messages on your Vagus nerve is going from your body to your brain, and only 20% is going from you brain to your body. My is to help people get more connected to their body...(so that they are not), a mindless body, or a bodiless mind... and to be a embodied mind." ~ Cyd HolsclawFingerprints: How God is Growing the Relational Health of His FamilyHosted by Tennison and Ginelle Barry, Fingerprints reveals how God is quietly restoring His family through relational healing, joy, and connection. Through real stories, practical tools, and spiritual insight, this podcast explores how God is forming safe, mature, emotionally healthy communities—starting with us. Discover the quiet revival already unfolding in homes, churches, and relationships, and learn how to notice His fingerprints in your own life.Listen in as Tennison & Ginelle conclude their conversation with Geoff and Cyd Holsclaw, authors of Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment Can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, and Connection. In this episode learn how Geoff and Cyd are running together to bring wholeness, and understanding to the body of Christ. Their fresh and unique approach to attachment helps bring clarity to why we do what we do when it come to seeking connection. Geoff & Cyd Holsclaw are Authors, Pastors, the Co-Founders of the Center for Embodied Faith and co-hosts of the Attaching to God podcast. (which offers a neuroscience-informed spiritual formation.) Cyd is also a Spiritual Director and Trauma-Informed Professional Certified Coach, and Geoff is Visiting Professor of Theology at Western Theological Seminary. Together Geoff & Cyd have co-authored Does God Really Like Me?: Discovering the God Who Wants to be With You, and Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, & ConnectionIf you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#supportTo learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call For more information about Table Experiences go to: tableandwell.org/tablesTo start on your journey to relational health go to: Connection CureTo watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
"...Life actullay got a lot better when I could see him (Geoff), as he is and go 'Wow! you are fantastic the way God made you'; And if I can learn to love yo the way you are, I will grow and benefit from that... Why would you wish away this person I made (for you)" ~ Cyd HolsclawFingerprints: How God is Growing the Relational Health of His FamilyHosted by Tennison and Ginelle Barry, Fingerprints reveals how God is quietly restoring His family through relational healing, joy, and connection. Through real stories, practical tools, and spiritual insight, this podcast explores how God is forming safe, mature, emotionally healthy communities—starting with us. Discover the quiet revival already unfolding in homes, churches, and relationships, and learn how to notice His fingerprints in your own life.Listen in as Tennison, Ginelle, Geoff and Cyd continue their conversation. In this episode they all get a little person and give you a look under the hood of both of their relationships. See how God's fingerprints has transformed, strengthened and growth their marriages more that any of them could image! Geoff & Cyd Holsclaw are Authors, Pastors, the Co-Founders of the Center for Embodied Faith and co-hosts of the Attaching to God podcast. (which offers a neuroscience-informed spiritual formation.) Cyd is also a Spiritual Director and Trauma-Informed Professional Certified Coach, and Geoff is Visiting Professor of Theology at Western Theological Seminary. Together Geoff & Cyd have co-authored Does God Really Like Me?: Discovering the God Who Wants to be With You, and Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, & Connection.If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#supportTo learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call For more information about Table Experiences go to: tableandwell.org/tablesTo start on your journey to relational health go to: Connection CureTo watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
Welcome to the Pinkleton Pull-Aside Podcast. On this podcast, let's step aside from our busy lives to have fun, fascinating life giving conversation with inspiring authors, pastors, sports personalities and other influencers, leaders and followers. Sit back, grab some coffee, or head down the road and let's get the good and the gold from today's guest. Our host is Jeff Pinkleton, Executive Director of the Gathering of the Miami Valley, where their mission is to connect men to men, and men to God. You can reach Jeff at GatheringMV.org or find him on Facebook at The Gathering of the Miami Valley.Travis West has been on a Sabbath journey since 2006. It has transformed his life in more ways than he can imagine or articulate. It has saved his marriage. It has literally saved his life. Travis is now a Sabbath evangelist. He wants nothing more than for everyone to experience the life-giving, delight-drenched, joy-blooming gift of Sabbath.Beyond being a pilgrim walking the Sabbath way, Travis is a husband to Mariah (since 2003), a son, a brother, an uncle, a friend, and a neighbor. He is also a Professor of Hebrew and Old Testament at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, MI, and the author of four books.Travis also preaches regularly and speaks in churches, colleges, and organizations on a variety of topics, most notably on Sabbath and how to find the rest our souls long for.
"...Life actullay got a lot better when I could see him (Geoff), as he is and go 'Wow! you are fantastic the way God made you'; And if I can learn to love yo the way you are, I will grow and benefit from that... Why would you wish away this person I made (for you)" ~ Cyd HolsclawFingerprints: How God is Growing the Relational Health of His FamilyHosted by Tennison and Ginelle Barry, Fingerprints reveals how God is quietly restoring His family through relational healing, joy, and connection. Through real stories, practical tools, and spiritual insight, this podcast explores how God is forming safe, mature, emotionally healthy communities—starting with us. Discover the quiet revival already unfolding in homes, churches, and relationships, and learn how to notice His fingerprints in your own life.Join Tennison and Ginelle as they begin another conversation about the Fingerprints of God. In this episode they are joined by Geoff & Cyd Holsclaw. As the conversation begins listwn in as they discuss how their journey began, and want motivated them to start their relational transformation. Learn how their very opposing approaches to live lead them to to the same conclusions on the importance of relational health and matuurity. And how their different approaches is now the foundation of everything they do. Geoff & Cyd Holsclaw are Authors, Pastors, the Co-Founders of the Center for Embodied Faith and co-hosts of the Attaching to God podcast. (which offers a neuroscience-informed spiritual formation.) Cyd is also a Spiritual Director and Trauma-Informed Professional Certified Coach, and Geoff is Visiting Professor of Theology at Western Theological Seminary. Together Geoff & Cyd have co-authored Does God Really Like Me?: Discovering the God Who Wants to be With You, and Landscapes of the Soul: How the Science and Spirituality of Attachment can Move You into Confident Faith, Courage, & Connection.If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#supportTo learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call For more information about Table Experiences go to: tableandwell.org/tablesTo start on your journey to relational health go to: Connection CureTo watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co
Welcome to the Pinkleton Pull-Aside Podcast. On this podcast, let's step aside from our busy lives to have fun, fascinating life giving conversation with inspiring authors, pastors, sports personalities and other influencers, leaders and followers. Sit back, grab some coffee, or head down the road and let's get the good and the gold from today's guest. Our host is Jeff Pinkleton, Executive Director of the Gathering of the Miami Valley, where their mission is to connect men to men, and men to God. You can reach Jeff at GatheringMV.org or find him on Facebook at The Gathering of the Miami Valley.Travis West has been on a Sabbath journey since 2006. It has transformed his life in more ways than he can imagine or articulate. It has saved his marriage. It has literally saved his life. Travis is now a Sabbath evangelist. He wants nothing more than for everyone to experience the life-giving, delight-drenched, joy-blooming gift of Sabbath.Beyond being a pilgrim walking the Sabbath way, Travis is a husband to Mariah (since 2003), a son, a brother, an uncle, a friend, and a neighbor. He is also a Professor of Hebrew and Old Testament at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, MI, and the author of four books.Travis also preaches regularly and speaks in churches, colleges, and organizations on a variety of topics, most notably on Sabbath and how to find the rest our souls long for.
Embodied Faith: on Relational Neuroscience, Spiritual Formation, and Faith
Is society producing more narcissists, or producing more people susceptible to abuse by narcissists? How has narcissism evolved in our internet age?In this episode, we explore the evolving nature of narcissism in the internet age and its impact on church communities. We discuss the shift from authority-based to algorithm-based influence, the rise of performative narcissism, and the attack on empathy.Our guest is Dr. Chuck DeGroat, the Professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality and Executive Director of the Clinical Mental Health Counseling Program at Western Theological Seminary, Holland, MI. He is also a licensed and practicing therapist, a spiritual director, author of five books, his newest book, Healing What's Within. He also wrote When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional and Spiritual Abuse.Join the launch team for Landscapes of the Soul by filling out this form (hit the title to buy the book). We need you to propel this book forward. Stay Connected: Check out our Attaching to God 6-Week Learning Cohort. Join the Embodied Faith community to stay connected and get posts, episodes, & resources. Support the podcast with a one-time or regular gift (to keep this ad-free without breaking the Holsclaw's bank).
Andrew Arndt is the Lead Pastor of New Life East (one of seven congregations of New Life Church in Colorado Springs), where he also hosts the Essential Church podcast, a weekly conversation designed to strengthen the thinking of church and ministry leaders. Prior to joining New Life's team, he served as Lead Pastor of Bloom Church: a neo-monastic, charismatic, liturgical, justice-driven network of house churches in Denver. He received his MDiv from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, is working on his Doctor of Ministry at Western Theological Seminary, and has written for Missio Alliance, Patheos, The Other Journal, and Mere Orthodoxy. He lives in the Springs with his wife Mandi and their four kids. He's the author of 3 books including the one we discuss in this episode, A Strange and Glorious Light:How the Story of Jesus Changes the Way We See Everything.
Claire and Rachel are joined by Dr. Madison N. Pierce, who shares her love of the book of Hebrews and reflects on Scripture's use of Scripture. The conversation covers the wide-ranging presence of the Old Testament in the New, and the reasons for that, as well as exegetical and hermeneutical methods and the Hebrew and Greek contexts in which the Scriptures were written. If this conversation piques your interests and you want to delve deeper into scriptural allusions and quotations, Madison will be teaching “Scripture's Use of Scripture” from June 2-6. BioDr. Madison N. Pierce is an Associate Professor of New Testament at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan. She earned her Ph.D. from Durham University, where she focused on the Book of Hebrews, the use of Scripture within Scripture, and the Catholic Epistles. Dr. Pierce's notable publications include her monograph, Divine Discourse in the Epistle to the Hebrews, which explores the recontextualization of spoken quotations of Scripture in Hebrews. In addition to her academic work, Dr. Pierce serves as the New Testament Editor for Reviews of Biblical and Early Christian Studies and co-hosts The Two Cities podcast. She is actively involved in her local church and enjoys engaging with the broader community through preaching and teaching.Summer Listener SurveyPlease fill out our Listener Survey before the end of July for the opportunity to win a $100 Regent College Bookstore Gift Card.Regent College Podcast Thanks for listening. Please like, rate and review us on your podcast platform of choice and share this episode with a friend. Follow Us on Social Media Facebook Instagram Youtube Keep in Touch Regent College Summer Programs Regent College Newsletter
In this episode of The Biggest Table podcast, I welcome Andrew Arndt, the lead pastor of New Life East in Colorado Springs, to discuss his experiences in ministry, his love for the church, and his new book, A Strange and Gracious Light. Arndt shares his deep-rooted passion for the church, influenced by his upbringing during the charismatic renewal of the 1960s and 1970s. He reflects on seeing the church with clear eyes, acknowledging both its flaws and its beauty. The conversation delves into the importance of the church calendar, embodying the story of Jesus, and practicing hospitality. We also explore the challenge of avoiding a consumerist mentality in the church and the importance of embodying kingdom values in daily life. Andrew Arndt is the lead pastor of New Life East, one of seven congregations of New Life Church in Colorado Springs, where he also hosts the Essential Church podcast, a weekly conversation designed to strengthen the thinking of church and ministry leaders. He previously served as lead pastor of Bloom Church, a neo-monastic, charismatic, liturgical, justice-driven network of house churches in Denver. He received his MDiv from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and DMin from Western Theological Seminary, and has written for Missio Alliance, Patheos, The Other Journal, and Mere Orthodoxy. He is the author of Streams in the Wasteland and All Flame, and A Strange and Gracious Light, which was just released on April 15. He lives in Colorado Springs with his wife Mandi and their four kids.This episode of the Biggest Table is brought to you in part by Wild Goose Coffee. Since 2008, Wild Goose has sought to build better communities through coffee. For our listeners, Wild Goose is offering a special promotion of 20% off a one time order using the code TABLE at checkout. To learn more and to order coffee, please visit wildgoosecoffee.com.
Andrew Arndt is back on the podcast today. He's a pastor and author who's challenging how we typically understand the gospel. His new book, "A Strange and Gracious Light," explores what it means to see Jesus as a living presence that intersects with our real, complicated lives. We'll discuss how the gospel isn't just about personal salvation or afterlife insurance, but a transformative story that speaks directly into our current cultural moment - with all its complexity, pain, and potential. Andrew brings a fresh, albeit an ancient perspective on how Jesus encounters us in our everyday struggles, political tensions, and personal challenges. This conversation is about reimagining the good news of Jesus as something far more expansive and immediate than we've traditionally understood. We'll explore what it means to experience Christ's presence in a way that's both deeply personal and broadly transformative. So join us as we facilitate encounters with the living God. Andrew Arndt is the Lead Pastor of New Life East (one of seven congregations of New Life Church in Colorado Springs), where he also hosts the Essential Church podcast, a weekly conversation designed to strengthen the thinking of church and ministry leaders. Prior to joining New Life's team, he served as Lead Pastor of Bloom Church: a neo-monastic, charismatic, liturgical, justice-driven network of house churches in Denver. He received his MDiv from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, is working on his Doctor of Ministry at Western Theological Seminary, and has written for Missio Alliance, Patheos, The Other Journal, and Mere Orthodoxy. He lives in the Springs with his wife Mandi and their four kids.Andrew's Book:A Strange and Gracious LightSubscribe to Our Substack: Shifting CultureConnect with Joshua: jjohnson@allnations.usGo to www.shiftingculturepodcast.com to interact and donate. Every donation helps to produce more podcasts for you to enjoy.Follow on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Threads, Bluesky or YouTubeConsider Giving to the podcast and to the ministry that my wife and I do around the world. Just click on the support the show link below The Signpost Inn PodcastFind peace, clarity, and companionship for your spiritual journey.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
Jeffrey Munroe is the editor of the ReformedJournal and author of the book TellingStories in the Dark: Finding Healing and Hope in Sharing our Sadness, Grief, trauma, and Pain. He is an ordained minister in the Reformed Church in America, formerly served as Executive Vice President of Western Theological Seminary, and lives in Holland, Michigan, with his wife Gretchen. Link to episode can be found here: #drdanamzallag, #drdanpodcast, #Happinessjourneywithdrdan,#ddanmotivation, #inspiringinterviews, #drdancbt, #drdantherapy,#drdancoaching, #drdanhappiness,
Welcome to the Pinkleton Pull-Aside Podcast. On this podcast, let's step aside from our busy lives to have fun, fascinating life giving conversation with inspiring authors, pastors, sports personalities and other influencers, leaders and followers. Sit back, grab some coffee, or head down the road and let's get the good and the gold from today's guest. Our host is Jeff Pinkleton, Executive Director of the Gathering of the Miami Valley, where their mission is to connect men to men, and men to God. You can reach Jeff at GatheringMV.org or find him on Facebook at The Gathering of the Miami Valley.Chase Replogle is the pastor of Bent Oak Church in Springfield, Missouri. He holds a degree in Biblical Studies and an M.A. in New Testament from The Assemblies of God Theological Seminary. He is currently a D.Min. student in The Sacred Art of Writing at Western Theological Seminary.Chase is the author of A Sharp Compassion and The 5 Masculine Instincts. His work draws from history, psychology, literature, and a rich narrative approach to Scripture to help readers think more deeply about faith and life.His work has been featured on Good Morning American, Christianity Today, The Gospel Coalition, Ekstasis, Bible Engagement Project, and Influence Magazine. In addition, he hosts the Pastor Writer Podcast (pastorwriter.com), where he interviews Christian authors on writing and publishing. A native of the Ozark woods, he enjoys being outdoors with his wife and two kids, sailing, playing the guitar (badly), and quail hunting with his bird dog Millie.
Dr. Wesley Hill is a New Testament scholar and seminary professor, and I found him through his new book called, simply, Easter. If you want Easter to be more than a chocolate bunny and the question of how to deal with wearing pastels after a long winter, this is your episode! Dr. Hill helped me remember again the deep and profound joy and hope that Easter brings, not just on that one Sunday each spring but every day before and after. Wesley Hill is an Episcopal priest and associate professor of New Testament at Western Theological Seminary. His PhD in New Testament is from Durham University in the UK. He has spoken and lectured at numerous Christian colleges and seminaries in the U.S. and internationally. A contributing editor for Comment magazine, he writes regularly for Christianity Today, The Living Church, and other publications. Among his books are Washed and Waiting, Paul and the Trinity, Spiritual Friendship, and The Lord's Prayer. Find him online at wesleyhill.tumblr.com.Visit KimberlyStuart.com/podcast for more from this episode.
We're continuing our conversation with Rev. Dr. David Rice about confronting Christian nationalism—a topic we're diving into because of the ways that it can deeply affect our faith, our communities, and how we engage with one another in this shifting cultural and political landscape. In our last episode, David shared his personal story—how his upbringing, ministry experiences, and cultural shifts shaped his understanding of faith and politics. We explored the unique challenges pastors face in addressing these issues from the pulpit and the tension of being accused of getting "too political" when speaking out about national concerns. If you haven't had a chance to listen yet, we encourage you to go back and catch up on that conversation first. In this episode, we'll dig deeper into: What Christian nationalism is and why it's a critical issue for people of faith, Our collective longing for control—something humanity has wrestled with since the very beginning—and how this longing fuels Christian nationalism, And how we can thoughtfully engage with our friends, neighbors, and fellow believers in conversations about these challenging issues. We hope our conversation with David sparks some new thoughts or insights into how power is being used, where our faith fits into these conversations, and how we can move forward in meaningful, compassionate ways. About Our Guest: Rev. Dr. David Rice is BJC's digital strategist, leading online engagement for the organization and its Christians Against Christian Nationalism campaign. BJC is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization that brings people together to tackle today's serious threats to religious liberty, including the targeting of religious minorities, the rise of Christian nationalism, and the politicization of houses of worship. Ordained in the American Baptist Churches USA, Rice joined BJC's staff in 2024 after previously serving in rural parish ministry and starting his own communications consulting firm. Rice earned a Doctor of Ministry degree in missiology and organizational leadership from Western Theological Seminary and a Master of Divinity degree from the Seattle School of Theology and Psychology. His undergraduate degree is from Huntington University, where he studied youth ministry and Bible. Rice, who has lived on the West Coast and in the UK, now lives in Michigan with his family. He enjoys cycling, gardening, cross-country skiing, sourdough bread baking, traveling, and Arsenal football.
If you're feeling the weight of past trauma and struggling to heal, then you are not alone! The journey to healing from abuse and trauma is often filled with challenges, and finding the right tools to navigate this journey can be overwhelming. But what if there was a resource that could guide you through this process and help you cultivate well-being? In this episode, you will be able to: Explore the transformative power of therapy in healing from abuse and trauma and reclaiming your well-being. Uncover the impact of narcissism in church leadership and gain insights into navigating the complexities of this issue. Discover the invaluable benefits of professional mental health support and how it can positively impact your healing journey. Understand the profound connection between attachment issues and trauma recovery and how it influences your healing process. Embrace the role of self-regulation in effective leadership and learn how it can enhance your personal and professional growth. My special guest is Dr. Chuck DeGroat Dr. Chuck DeGroat, a professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, brings a wealth of experience and expertise to the podcast. With a background in therapy, spiritual direction, and as a licensed therapist, Chuck specializes in navigating issues of abuse, trauma, pastoral and leadership health, and doubt. His profound insights and compassionate approach make him a thought leader in the space of healing from workplace abuse and trauma. Chuck's dedication to helping individuals understand and heal from the impact of abuse and trauma, combined with his extensive experience in training clergy and consulting with churches, makes him an invaluable resource for anyone seeking insight and guidance in their healing journey. The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:02 - Introduction to the Podcast 00:01:40 - Chuck DeGroat's Background 00:03:22 - Evolution of Chuck DeGroat's Approach 00:11:03 - Faux Vulnerability in Church Leadership 00:13:09 - Misuse of Self-Work for Immunity 00:13:40 - Dysfunctional Dynamics in Churches 00:14:58 - Toxic Leadership and Manipulation 00:19:06 - Nervous System Dysregulation 00:22:10 - Healing Attachment Wounds 00:25:52 - Transformation and Non-Anxious Presence 00:26:17 - Recognizing Patterns of Toxic Behavior 00:27:24 - Accountability and Systemic Change 00:29:15 - Rebuilding for the Future 00:30:49 - Understanding Shame Dynamics 00:35:15 - Rediscovering the Goodness of the Heart 00:39:20 - Men Doing Deeper Work 00:40:02 - Bullying and Women 00:41:15 - Complimenting Each Other's Work 00:41:39 - Encouraging Curiosity and Healing 00:42:42 - Embracing Curiosity and Healing 00:53:11 - Finding Healing and Freedom 00:53:32 - Hope in "Healing What's Within" Trauma is not what happens to us, but what happens within. - Chuck DeGroat Order Healing What's Within by Dr. Chuck DeGroot on his website chuckdegroat.net or through major book retailers like Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Book Depository. Join the Patreon community at www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference to access exclusive content, one you don't want to miss an exclusive with Dr. Chuck DeGroat. Listen to our first episode with Dr. Chuck DeGroat about his book When Narcissism Comes to Church Explore additional resources recommended by Dr. Chuck DeGroot at the end of each chapter, such as Dan Allender's To Be Told: Know Your Story, Shape Your Life and Frederick Buechner's Telling Secrets. Engage in introspective and mindful practices to support your healing journey, such as deep breathing, visualization, EMDR and brainspotting. Gift Healing What's Within to friends or loved ones who could benefit from the valuable tools and insights shared in the book. Connect with us: https://www.aworldofdifferencepodcast.com Linkedin YouTube FaceBook Instagram Threads Patreon Bluesky TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Advent begins in the dark, and at this weary time of year, we truly need reminders of what we can hope for and how we can remain with one another, despite the hardest hurts that make us want to draw away. As we do so, we're joined by the exquisitely talented, award-winning writer and senior editor at Harper One, Stephanie Duncan Smith, 4 (4-8 pairing) as she talks about her new book that addresses finding light even after darkness, Even After Everything: The Spiritual Practice of Knowing the Risks and Loving Anyway. Today we get to process what Advent means as we enter the season, but moreover, we get to hear Stephanie‘s rich stories about the ways that she has encountered finiteness and loss and also opened herself up to joy even after harrowing experiences of both live births and pregnancy losses during the Advent season. During Advent and beyond, do not miss this journey of sharing our hopes and desires to cope after our losses. Join us for a beautiful and hope-filled episode right here. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZYIyTVmdx8k More About Stephanie: Stephanie Duncan Smith is a writer and senior editor at HarperOne who has spent her career developing award-winning and bestselling authors. She is the creator of Slant Letter, a bestselling Substack email newsletter for writers looking to deepen their craft and do it in style. Duncan Smith completed her master's in theology at Western Theological Seminary, where she was the winner of the Frederick Buechner Prize for Excellence in Writing. She lives with her husband, Zach, a professor, and their two children in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Show Notes: Get Stephanie‘s brand new title here this Advent: Even After Everything: The Spiritual Practice of Knowing the Risks and Loving Anyway : https://a.co/d/f5w6z5Z Follow Stephanie on Substack, the Slant Letter right here: https://substack.com/@stephanieduncansmith Find Stephanie on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/stephduncansmith/?hl=en Also, make sure you visit www.EnneagramandMarriage.com for all of our Cyber Monday deals using the code BlackFriday for 50% off so many products, including our new MBTI rollout over at www.MyersBriggsandMarriage.com! You can also get the deals on Dating Divas sexy subscription and more here! https://shop.thedatingdivas.com/?sca_ref=6272364.4hv7IY3580 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yQ4t3GG8g20 We would love to hear from you! Leave your questions or messages for Christa or sign up for coaching RIGHT HERE: https://www.enneagramandmarriage.com/contact-us Sign Up For the E + M WEEKLY NEWSLETTER here: https://enneagramandmarriage.myflodesk.com/olivbuf96o We share new posts each week @ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enneagramandmarriage/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/772026686525647 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@enneagramandmarriage?lang=en Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Rev. Dr. Katherine Willis Pershey Guest Preaching Rev. Dr. Katherine Willis Pershey is the Co-Pastor at First Congregational United Church of Christ, in Appleton, WI. Rev. Pershey received her Master of Divinity degree from the Claremont School of Theology in California. She recently completed a Doctor of Ministry degree on the theme Holy Presence: Eugene Peterson and the Pastoral Imagination from Western Theological Seminary in Michigan. She was the solo pastor of South Bay Christian Church for five years and served as Associate Pastor of The First Congregational Church of Western Springs for fourteen years. Katherine is a member of the Board of The Christian Century and is also a regular contributor to the magazine. She is the author of Any Day a Beautiful Change: A Story of Faith and Family and Very Married: Field Notes on Love and Fidelity. She completed yoga teacher training in 2018, and is certified through YogaDevotion to teach faith-integrated yoga. Katherine and her husband, Ben are raising two teenage children.
What if the core problem in most humans these days isn't that we think too highly of ourselves, but rather that we live with an underlying sense of worthlessness, alienation, and disillusionment? In this episode, Chuck DeGroat joins the pod to talk about his book Healing What's Within and the concept of Internal Family Systems theory. Sharing from his background as a therapist and pastor, DeGroat explains the importance of befriending our different parts and becoming aware of how they show up in different situations. DeGroat emphasizes the significance of connecting with our true selves and living from that core. Exploring the classic "fall" narrative in Genesis 3, DeGroat proposes the theological concept of a primal wound and the importance of understanding the underlying story and biography behind harmful behavior. He emphasizes the need for pastors and church leaders to have support groups and close friendships to navigate the challenges they face. Chuck DeGroat is a professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, where he also serves as the founding executive director of the clinical mental health counseling program. He is a licensed therapist, spiritual director, author, retreat leader speaker, and faculty member with the Soul Care Institute. As a therapist, he specializes in navigating issues of abuse and trauma, pastoral (and leadership) health, and doubt and dark nights on the faith journey. He trains clergy in handling issues of abuse and trauma, conducts pastor and planter assessments, and facilitates church consultations and investigations of abuse. Before transitioning to training and forming pastors, Chuck served as a pastor in Orlando and San Francisco. He and his wife, Sara, have been married for 30 years and have two adult daughters. Book Buy Link Chuck's Website Chuck's IG Chuck's X Presenting Sponsor: Phillips Seminary Join conversations that expose you to new ideas, deepen your commitment and give insights to how we can minister in a changing world. Supporting Sponsors: Restore Clergy If you are clergy in need of tailored, professional support to help you manage the demands of ministry, Restore Clergy is for you! Future Christian Team: Loren Richmond Jr. – Host & Executive Producer Martha Tatarnic – Co-Host Paul Romig–Leavitt – Associate Producer Dennis Sanders – Producer Alexander Lang - Production Assistant
Scott Revealy joins Wyatt to discuss the political implication of following Jesus. With another presidential just around the corner, followers of Jesus shouldn't ignore worldly politics. Instead Scott advocates for a gospel-inspired approach to voting and civic engagement. Scott Revealy is first an experienced pastor with over thirty years of experience. Scott is also a professor at Western Theological Seminary, where he teaches classes on politics and faith. Additionally, Scott hosts his own podcast, City on a Hill, which helps follower of Jesus think through their dual citizenship in heaven and in this world. Check out Scott's podcast below! https://open.spotify.com/show/5EfQ2xByH7WVhUvVsUvETl?si=8daa6596c1e14de5 For more questions and inquiries, reach us at reachus@amcc.org or visit us on our website at nativeexiles.com.
Guest Bios Show Transcript https://youtu.be/v_OzUDcA3u0If you're like a lot of folks, you look put together on the outside. But inside, there's a constant churn of unprocessed shame, anger, or grief. Little by little, you're becoming disconnected from who you really are. But professor, author and licensed therapist, Chuck DeGroat, says it doesn't have to be this way. And on this podcast, he invites listeners to take the journey to true healing. You may know Chuck as the author of his very popular 2020 book, When Narcissism Comes to Church. But in his newest book, Healing What's Within, Chuck opens up about one of the most traumatic experiences of his life—when he got fired from his job at a church. Chuck did what a lot of us do when we're experiencing excruciating pain—he pushed it down and soldiered through. After all, he had a family to support and career to salvage. But eventually, that trauma began to manifest in his body. And he found he could no longer ignore the pain—or rely on his means of coping. He had to confront the profound disconnection he felt from himself, from others, and from God. With the heart of a caring pastor and expertise of a licensed therapist, Chuck shows the way to hope and healing for the deep wounds within your soul. Guests Chuck DeGroat Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, and a faculty member of the Soul Care Institute. He is a therapist, speaker, consultant, pastor, and author of several books including When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community from Emotional and Spiritual Abuse. Chuck is married to Sara and has two daughters. Learn more at www.chuckdegroat.net Show Transcript Coming soon Read more
Today, we're talking to someone I met while helping another friend with her doctoral work. One of her professors on that journey was Winn Collier, who is the Director of The Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination, and Associate Professor of Pastoral Theology and Christian Imagination at Western Theological Seminary. He is also the authorized biographer for Eugene Peterson's story. His biography of Peterson, called A Burning in My Bones, was released in 2021. He has other books to his credit, as well, and it is actually one of those other books we'll talk about today. His book, Holy Curiosity, looks a nine questions Jesus asked people he met on the journey. Collier's study of those questions unleashes in me a curiosity about questions in general and how we might use them in the work of becoming holy. In this conversation, we'll talk about questions and imagination and Eugene Peterson and curiosity and holiness. Enjoy.