Podcasts about Julian Jaynes

Consciousness and Dreams By Marcel Kuijsten“In The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, Julian Jaynes discusses a variety of forms of evidence for the transition from a bicameral mentality to consciousness. The study of dreams provides another window through which to examine this transition. By extension, historical changes in the nature of dreams support the idea that consciousness is in a learned process based on language and not biologically innate. There is a common assumption that the nature of dreams has been consistent throughout recorded history, yet this is not the case. If we analyze the first recorded accounts of dreams and compare these accounts with modern dreams, we see a stark contrast. …”This essay originally appeared in The Jaynesian, Marcel Kuijsten & Brian J. McVeigh (eds.), Winter 2010, Volume 4, Issue 1.

This week's show is with Richard Nikoley. Richard was born and raised in Reno, Nevada, the son of a German immigrant. He attended a private, church-run high school before moving on to Tennessee Temple University in Chattanooga for his first year of college. He later transferred to Oregon State University, where he graduated in 1984 with a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration, along with minors in mathematics/computer science and naval science. During his time at OSU, he was a member of the NROTC unit and was commissioned as a Surface Warfare Officer (SWO) in the U.S. Navy upon graduation. Richard's naval career began with eight months of training in San Diego, California, followed by a deployment to Yokosuka, Japan. There, he served on the USS REEVES (CG-24) from 1984 to 1987 in various roles, including Assistant Missiles Officer, First Lieutenant, and Electrical Officer. He then joined the U.S. SEVENTH FLEET aboard the USS BLUE RIDGE (LCC-19) from 1988 to 1989, managing a substantial fuel budget as Assistant Fleet Scheduling Officer and Assistant Logistics Officer. After five years in Japan, Richard moved to Monterey, California, to study French at the Defense Language Institute. This led to an exchange officer position with the French Navy from 1989 to 1992, where he served as Navigator on the FNS COLBERT (C 611) and FNS DUQUESNE (D 603). He left the Navy in 1992 and returned to the San Francisco Bay Area. In 1993, Richard founded a company that grew significantly over a 20-year period. Although he was married for much of that time, since 2019, he and his former spouse have maintained a friendly relationship while pursuing separate lifestyles. Since January 2020, Richard has been living in Thailand as an unintended expat. Initially planning to be digital and nomadic, he decided to settle more permanently due to the COVID-19 pandemic. During this time, he built a house in a rural province and wrote extensively about COVID-19, masks, lockdowns, and global drug trials - earning recognition for his insights. Currently, Richard manages multiple income streams while engaging in various creative pursuits. He writes, makes videos, takes long walks, swims and snorkels in the tropical ocean, rides a motorcycle without a helmet, and enjoys cooking and eating exquisite food. A self-proclaimed gym junkie and honorary "Bro," Richard is known for his clever and well-crafted writing. In this show, Richard and Lian explore the intersections of artificial intelligence, truth, and human evolution. They discuss Julian Jaynes' theory of the bicameral mind, the rapid development of AI, and the deeper question of what it means to be conscious. Richard shares how his skepticism about AI turned into curiosity. He describes AI as a logic machine - highly intelligent but without awareness or intrinsic values. They examine whether AI's ability to process vast amounts of information makes it an unlikely yet powerful force for truth. Together, they reflect on AI's role in democratising knowledge and the philosophical implications of intelligence without consciousness. Could AI push humanity toward greater awareness, or does it merely highlight our limitations? As technology continues to evolve, this episode challenges listeners to consider: what does it mean to be truly intelligent, and what does it take to be conscious? We'd love to know what YOU think about this week's show. Let's carry on the conversation… please leave a comment wherever you are listening or in any of our other spaces to engage. What you'll learn from this episode: AI operates as a logic machine, not a conscious entity. While AI can simulate human intelligence, it lacks self-awareness, emotions, and personal values. However, its ability to analyze information might make it one of the most effective truth-seeking tools we've ever created. Intelligence and consciousness do not always go hand in hand. Drawing from Julian Jaynes' theory, Richard and Lian discuss how past civilisations perhaps functioned without the kind of self-awareness we assume is universal. AI, like early humans, can operate with intelligence but without a conscious inner world. AI could redefine human potential rather than replace it. As AI automates tasks and challenges traditional roles, it may not eliminate jobs so much as shift human focus toward creativity, philosophy, and problem-solving. Rather than competing with AI, humans may need to expand their own awareness. Resources and stuff spoken about: Richard's Free The Animal blog Richard's book: Paleo Perfection: How to Lose Weight and Feel Great Richard's PDF downloads Richard on social: Facebook and X Join UNIO, the Academy of Sacred Union. 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An interview with Julian Jaynes Society Founder and Executive Director Marcel Kuijsten and Julian Jaynes Society Senior Researcher and author Brian J. McVeigh on Julian Jaynes's theory of the origin of consciousness and the bicameral mind. Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Read Marcel Kuijsten's books on Julian Jaynes's theory: "Conversations on Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind: Interviews with Leading Thinkers on Julian Jaynes's Theory" "Gods, Voices, and the Bicameral Mind: The Theories of Julian Jaynes" "The Julian Jaynes Collection" "Reflections on the Dawn of Consciousness: Julian Jaynes's Bicameral Mind Theory Revisited"

Falling between the Cracks: Julian Jaynes's Defiance of Scholarly Conventions Challenged Cherished Methodological Assumptions — This Is What Makes Him Hard to Appreciate By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). Academics make progress when they are inspired by the cross-pollination of ideas, and most researchers, arguably, utilize a multi-disciplinary approach to some degree, i.e., no piece of research fits perfectly into one scholarly field. Much of the academic landscape can be described as combinatory endeavors — social psychology, psychological anthropology, psychology of religion, neuropsychology, neurotheology, etc., to name just a few. Cross-fertilization is a wonderful and much-needed antidote to specialization, subspecialization, sub-subspecialization, etc. ... Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/2022/12/05/falling-between-the-cracks-jayness-defiance-of-scholarly-conventions/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

The Myth of “Pure Consciousness” - The Belief in a Fundamental Psychic Process Hinders Progress in Psychology By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). “If understanding a thing is arriving at a familiarizing metaphor for it, then we can see that there always will be a difficulty in understanding consciousness. For it should be immediately apparent that there is not and cannot be anything in our immediate experience that is like immediate experience itself. There is therefore a sense in which we shall never be able to understand consciousness in the same way that we can understand things that we are conscious of”  (Julian Jaynes, 1976, p. 53). I have often wondered why so many well-credentialed researchers continue to bark up the wrong tree in their quest to understand consciousness. Many reasons could be offered, but in a recent discussion on the “Julian Jaynes — The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind” Facebook page someone brought up Jaynes's aforementioned quote. ... Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/2022/10/18/the-myth-of-pure-consciousness/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

A Resurgence of Julian Jaynes' Theory of Consciousness By Peter Sellick Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). Adam Mars-Jones begins his review of Alvaro Enrigue's “You Dreamed of Empires” (London Review of Books, Volume 46, Number 10) with the following: “Culture shock​ seems too mild a phrase to describe the arrival of Europeans in South and Central America. In his 1976 maverick classic, The Origin of consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind (its category speculative neurohistory, at a guess), Julian Jaynes proposes that, at the time Pizarro and his men reached them, the Inca didn't have full mental autonomy but only ‘protosubjectivity'. They functioned largely by a sort of automatism, acting according to unchanging patterns and ritual clues, able to absorb only slight disruptions to their routines, so that this was less a clash of civilisations than of mental structures.” This sent me scrambling for my old copy of Jaynes' monumental book that I read in the late 80s. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/2024/08/16/a-resurgence-of-julian-jaynes-theory-of-consciousness/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Julian Jaynes Is Not for the Intellectually Fainthearted — But Breaking Jaynesian Psychology Down into Four Hypotheses Makes Things Easier By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). I first encountered Julian Jaynes's The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind almost 45 years ago. Though the book made sense to me, I could see why people would reject its arguments. Nevertheless I assumed that once carefully explained, people may not agree but would at least be able to discern a certain logic behind Jaynesian psychology. How naïve I was. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/2022/06/07/julian-jaynes-is-not-for-the-intellectually-fainthearted/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Explore the fascinating world of ritual and animism in psychology! This in-depth look covers the evolution of human consciousness, psychotic experiences, and therapeutic approaches. From James Frazer's "The Golden Bough" to Julian Jaynes' bicameral mind theory, discover how our understanding of the human psyche has evolved. Learn about the changing nature of psychosis in America and how it reflects societal shifts. Dive into the works of Jung, Edinger, and Neumann to understand the role of animism in psychological development. Perfect for psychology students, therapists, and anyone interested in the intersection of spirituality and mental health.   #PsychologyOfRitual #AnimismExplained #ConsciousnessEvolution #PsychologyOfRitual #AnimismExplained #ConsciousnessEvolution #JulianJaynes #BicameralMind #JamesFrazer #GoldenBough #PsychosisInAmerica #JungianPsychology #TherapeuticApproaches #SpiritualPsychology #MentalHealthAwareness #CollectiveTrauma #SymbolicThinking #RitualHealing   What is the Psychology of Ritual and Animism? Ritual and animism are distinct but related concepts that offer insights into the workings of the emotional and preconscious mind. While they are often associated with religious or spiritual practices, they can also be understood as psychological processes that serve important functions in human development and well-being (Edinger, 1972; Neumann, 1955). Animism can be defined as the attribution of consciousness, soul, or spirit to objects, plants, animals, and natural phenomena. From a psychological perspective, animism involves "turning down" one's cognitive functioning to "hear" the inner monologue of the world and treat it as alive. This process allows individuals to connect with the preconscious wisdom of their own psyche and the natural world (Tylor, 1871). Ritual, on the other hand, is a structured sequence of actions that are performed with the intention of achieving a specific psychological or social outcome. In depth psychology, ritual is understood as a process of projecting parts of one's psyche onto objects or actions, modifying them, and then withdrawing the projection to achieve a transformation in internal cognition (Moore & Gillette, 1990). It is important to note that animism and ritual are not merely primitive or outdated practices, but rather reflect a natural state of human consciousness that has been suppressed or "turned off" by cultural and environmental changes, rather than evolutionary ones. This natural state can still be accessed through various means, including psychosis, religious practices, and intentional ritualistic behaviors (Grof, 1975). In times of extreme stress or trauma, individuals may experience a breakdown of their normal cognitive functioning, leading to a resurgence of animistic or ritualistic thinking. This can be seen in the delusions and hallucinations associated with psychosis, which often involve a heightened sense of meaning and connection with the environment (Jaynes, 1976). Similarly, many religious and spiritual traditions incorporate practices that deliberately induce altered states of consciousness, such as meditation, chanting, or the use of psychoactive substances. These practices can help individuals access the preconscious wisdom of their own minds and connect with the living world around them (Eliade, 1959). Even in secular contexts, engaging in intentional ritualistic behaviors, such as art-making, dance, or storytelling, can serve a similar function of integrating the emotional and preconscious aspects of the psyche. By creating a safe, structured space for self-expression and exploration, these practices can promote psychological healing and growth (Turner, 1969). James Frazer and "The Golden Bough" James Frazer (1854-1941) was a Scottish anthropologist and folklorist who made significant contributions to the study of mythology, religion, and ritual. His most famous work, "The Golden Bough" (1890), was a comparative study of mythology and religion that identified common patterns and themes across cultures. Frazer's work was influenced by the concept of animism, which had been introduced by Edward Tylor (1832-1917) as a primitive form of religion. Frazer saw ritual as a means of controlling the supernatural world through sympathetic magic, which operated on the principles of homeopathic magic (the belief that like produces like) and contagious magic (the belief that things that have been in contact continue to influence each other) (Frazer, 1890). The title of Frazer's work, "The Golden Bough," was a reference to the mythical golden bough in the sacred grove at Nemi, Italy. According to the myth, the priest of the grove had to defend his position against challengers, and the successful challenger plucked the golden bough and replaced the priest. Frazer saw this story as a symbol of the cycle of death and rebirth in nature and in human society (Frazer, 1890). Frazer's work was significant in highlighting the prevalence of animistic thinking across cultures and throughout history. He observed that many cultures engaged in practices that attributed consciousness and agency to natural objects and phenomena, such as trees, rivers, and celestial bodies (Frazer, 1890). While Frazer's interpretations of these practices were shaped by the ethnocentric assumptions of his time, his work laid the foundation for later anthropological and psychological studies of animism and ritual. By identifying common patterns and themes across cultures, Frazer helped to establish the comparative study of religion as a legitimate field of inquiry. However, Frazer's work has also been criticized for its reliance on secondary sources and its lack of fieldwork, as well as for its oversimplification and overgeneralization of complex cultural phenomena. His evolutionary view of human thought, which posited a progression from magic through religion to science, has been challenged by later scholars who emphasize the coexistence and interplay of these different modes of thinking (Tylor, 1871). Despite these limitations, Frazer's work remains an important touchstone in the study of animism and ritual, and his insights continue to influence contemporary debates about the nature of religion and the evolution of human consciousness. Julian Jaynes and the Bicameral Mind Julian Jaynes (1920-1997) was an American psychologist and philosopher who proposed a controversial theory about the evolution of human consciousness in his book "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" (1976). Jaynes argued that the human mind had once operated in a state of bicameralism, where cognitive functions were divided between two chambers of the brain. In this state, the "speaking" right hemisphere issued commands, which were experienced as auditory hallucinations, while the "listening" left hemisphere obeyed. Jaynes proposed that the breakdown of this bicameral mind led to the development of consciousness and introspection (Jaynes, 1976). According to Jaynes, the bicameral mind was a normal and universal feature of human cognition until about 3,000 years ago, when a combination of social, environmental, and linguistic changes led to its breakdown. He argued that the development of written language, the rise of complex civilizations, and the increasing use of metaphorical language all contributed to the emergence of self-awareness and inner dialogue (Jaynes, 1976). Jaynes' theory has been criticized for its lack of direct archaeological or biological evidence, as well as for its reliance on literary interpretation rather than empirical data. Some scholars have argued that Jaynes' interpretation of ancient texts and artifacts is selective and biased, and that his theory oversimplifies the complex processes involved in the development of consciousness (Wilber, 1977). However, Jaynes' work has also been praised for its originality and its interdisciplinary approach, which draws on insights from psychology, anthropology, linguistics, and history. His theory has inspired a wide range of research and speculation about the nature of consciousness and the role of language in shaping human cognition (Huxley, 1945). From the perspective of animism and ritual, Jaynes' theory offers an interesting perspective on the experience of "hearing" the world speak. The bicameral mind can be seen as a metaphor for the animistic experience of perceiving the natural world as alive and conscious, and of receiving messages or commands from a higher power (Otto, 1917). Jaynes himself drew parallels between the bicameral experience and certain forms of religious or mystical experience, such as prophecy, possession, and divine inspiration. He argued that these experiences reflect a residual capacity for bicameral cognition, which can be triggered by certain environmental or psychological factors (Jaynes, 1976). However, Jaynes also emphasized the differences between bicameral and conscious cognition, and he argued that the development of consciousness marked a significant evolutionary shift in human history. He saw the breakdown of the bicameral mind as a necessary step in the emergence of individual agency, creativity, and moral responsibility (Jaynes, 1976). While Jaynes' theory remains controversial and speculative, it offers a provocative framework for thinking about the relationship between language, consciousness, and the experience of the sacred. By highlighting the role of auditory hallucinations and inner speech in shaping human cognition, Jaynes invites us to consider the ways in which our mental processes are shaped by cultural and environmental factors, as well as by our evolutionary history. The Changing Nature of Psychotic Experience in America Research has shown that the content and themes of psychotic experiences in America have shifted over time, reflecting the underlying insecurities and forces shaping the collective psyche. Before the Great Depression, psychotic experiences were predominantly animistic, with people hearing "spirits" tied to natural phenomena, geography, or ancestry. These experiences were mostly pleasant, even if relatively disorganized. During the Depression, the voices shifted to being more fearful, begging or asking for food, love, or services. They were still not terribly distressing and often encouraged empathy. In the 1950s and 1960s, the voices became universally distressing, antagonistic, manipulative, and harmful. Themes of hierarchical control through politics, surveillance, and technology emerged. From the 1970s through the 1990s, technology, esoteric conspiratorial control, and the supernatural became the dominant content. Surveillance, coercion, and control were central features. These changes in the nature of psychosis reflect the evolution of collective trauma and the manifestation of unintegrated preconscious elements in the American psyche. As society shifted from an agrarian to an industrial and then to a post-industrial economy, the anxieties and insecurities of each era found expression through the content of psychotic experiences. Interestingly, UFO conspiracy theories have emerged as a prominent manifestation of these unintegrated preconscious elements in the modern era. These theories often involve themes of surveillance, control, and the supernatural, mirroring the dominant features of psychosis from the 1970s onwards. UFO conspiracy theories can be seen as a way for individuals to make sense of their experiences of powerlessness and disconnection in a rapidly changing world, by attributing them to external, otherworldly forces. The case of Heaven's Gate, a UFO religious millenarian group, illustrates this intersection of technology, spirituality, and psychosis. The group's leader, Marshall Applewhite, reinterpreted Christian theology through the lens of science fiction and technology, convincing his followers that their bodies were merely vehicles to be abandoned in order to ascend to a higher level of existence on a UFO. This tragic case highlights how unintegrated preconscious elements can manifest in extreme and destructive ways when left unaddressed. It is important to note that not all UFO experiences are indicative of psychosis, and conversely, not all psychotic experiences involve UFOs or conspiracy theories. In schizophrenia, for example, auditory hallucinations are the most common symptom, while visual hallucinations are relatively rare unless drugs or severe trauma are involved. UFO experiences, on the other hand, often involve a complex interplay of factors, including altered states of consciousness, sleep paralysis, false memories, and cultural narratives. Nonetheless, the changing nature of psychotic experiences in America highlights the profound impact that societal and environmental stressors can have on the preconscious mind. By understanding how these stressors shape the content and themes of psychosis, we can gain insight into the deeper anxieties and insecurities that plague the American psyche. This understanding can inform more comprehensive and compassionate approaches to mental health treatment, which address not only the symptoms of psychosis but also the underlying social and cultural factors that contribute to its development. Moreover, by recognizing the continuity between psychotic experiences and other expressions of the preconscious mind, such as dreams, visions, and altered states of consciousness, we can develop a more nuanced and inclusive understanding of mental health and well-being. Rather than pathologizing or dismissing these experiences, we can learn to approach them with curiosity, openness, and respect, and to explore their potential for insight, growth, and transformation. Ritual as a Psychological Process The work of anthropologists Victor Turner (1920-1983) and Robert Moore (1942-2016) has shed light on the psychological dimensions of ritual and its role in personal and social transformation. Turner's concepts of liminality (the transitional state in ritual where participants are "betwixt and between") and communitas (the sense of equality and bond formed among ritual participants) highlight the transformative potential of ritual. By creating a safe, liminal space for psychological exploration and change, ritual can help individuals process and integrate traumatic experiences and achieve personal growth (Turner, 1969). Turner argued that rituals serve an important function in helping individuals navigate the challenges and transitions of life, such as birth, puberty, marriage, and death. He saw rituals as a way of marking and facilitating these transitions, by providing a structured and meaningful context for the expression and transformation of emotions (Turner & Turner, 1978). Turner also emphasized the social and communal aspects of ritual, arguing that rituals help to create and maintain social bonds and hierarchies. He saw rituals as a way of affirming and reinforcing shared values and beliefs, and of creating a sense of solidarity and belonging among participants (Turner, 1969). Moore, in his books "King, Warrior, Magician, Lover" (1990) and "The Archetype of Initiation" (2001), emphasized the importance of ritual in modern society for personal development and social cohesion. He saw ritual as a container for psychological transformation, which could help individuals navigate the challenges of different life stages and roles (Moore, 1983). Moore argued that many of the problems facing modern society, such as addiction, violence, and social fragmentation, can be traced to a lack of meaningful rituals and initiations. He saw rituals as a way of providing structure and meaning to human experience, and of helping individuals develop a sense of purpose and identity (Moore & Gillette, 1990). Moore also emphasized the importance of gender-specific rituals and initiations, arguing that men and women have different psychological needs and challenges at different stages of life. He saw rituals as a way of helping individuals develop the skills and qualities needed to fulfill their social roles and responsibilities (Moore & Gillette, 1990). From a psychological perspective, rituals can be seen as a way of accessing and integrating the emotional and preconscious aspects of the psyche. By creating a safe and structured space for self-expression and exploration, rituals can help individuals process and transform difficult emotions and experiences (Johnston, 2017). Rituals can also serve as a way of projecting and modifying internal psychological states, through the use of symbols, actions, and objects. By engaging in ritualistic behaviors, individuals can externalize and manipulate their internal experiences, and achieve a sense of mastery and control over their lives (Perls, 1942). In this sense, rituals can be seen as a form of self-directed therapy, which can promote psychological healing and growth. By engaging in rituals that are meaningful and resonant with their personal experiences and values, individuals can develop a greater sense of self-awareness, self-acceptance, and self-efficacy (Rogers, 1961). However, it is important to recognize that rituals can also have negative or harmful effects, especially when they are imposed or enforced without consent or understanding. Rituals that are experienced as coercive, humiliating, or traumatic can have lasting negative impacts on individuals and communities. Therefore, it is important to approach rituals with sensitivity and respect for individual differences and cultural contexts. Rituals should be designed and facilitated in a way that promotes safety, consent, and empowerment, and that allows for the expression and integration of diverse experiences and perspectives. Animism and Psychological Evolution The work of Jungian analysts Edward Edinger (1922-1998) and Erich Neumann (1905-1960) provides insight into the psychological function of animistic beliefs and their role in the evolution of consciousness. Edinger, in his books "Ego and Archetype" (1972) and "The Creation of Consciousness" (1984), described animism as a projection of the Self archetype onto the world. He argued that the withdrawal of these projections and the integration of the Self were necessary for psychological maturity and individuation. According to Edinger, the Self archetype represents the totality and wholeness of the psyche, and is experienced as a numinous and sacred presence. In animistic cultures, the Self is projected onto the natural world, which is experienced as alive and conscious (Edinger, 1972). Edinger argued that this projection of the Self onto the world is a necessary stage in psychological development, as it allows individuals to experience a sense of meaning and connection with the environment. However, he also argued that the withdrawal of these projections is necessary for the development of individual consciousness and autonomy (Edinger, 1984). Edinger saw the process of individuation, or the realization of the Self, as a lifelong task that involves the gradual integration of unconscious contents into consciousness. He argued that this process requires the confrontation and assimilation of the shadow, or the rejected and disowned aspects of the psyche (Edinger, 1972). Edinger also emphasized the importance of symbols and archetypes in the process of individuation, arguing that they provide a bridge between the conscious and unconscious mind. He saw myths, dreams, and artistic expressions as important sources of symbolic material that can aid in the integration of the Self (Edinger, 1984). Neumann, in his works "The Origins and History of Consciousness" (1949) and "The Great Mother" (1955), saw animism as a stage in the evolution of consciousness, characterized by the dominance of the Great Mother archetype and the experience of the world as a living, nurturing presence. Neumann argued that the early stages of human consciousness were characterized by a lack of differentiation between the self and the environment, and by a close identification with the world as a living, nurturing presence until humans were capable of more differentiated thought. Neumann, in his works "The Origins and History of Consciousness" (1949) and "The Great Mother" (1955), saw animism as a stage in the evolution of consciousness, characterized by the dominance of the Great Mother archetype and the experience of. Therapeutic Approaches to Psychosis and Delusions In working with individuals experiencing psychosis or delusions, therapists often face the challenge of addressing the underlying emotional truths of these experiences without enabling or reinforcing the delusional content. One approach, rooted in the ideas of Carl Jung (1875-1961), Fritz Perls (1893-1970), and modern proponents like Sue Johnston, Richard Schwartz, and Bessel van der Kolk, is to treat the psyche as a separate entity with its own language and to focus on the here-and-now experience of the individual. Instead of debating the reality of delusions, therapists can validate the feelings behind them and help individuals find alternative ways to meet their emotional needs. For example, a therapist might say, "You feel alone and persecuted. That must feel terrible. What do you need to feel better?" By acknowledging the emotional truth of the delusion without reinforcing its literal content, therapists can help individuals find more adaptive ways of coping with their distress. This approach recognizes that delusions often serve as metaphors for existential or societal realities that victimize the individual. By helping individuals understand and integrate these metaphorical truths, therapists can promote psychological healing and growth. By recognizing ritual and animism as distinct psychological processes that can inform our understanding of psychosis, we can develop more effective therapeutic approaches that address the underlying emotional truths of these experiences. Whether we see ritual and animism as religious or psychological processes is less important than understanding their potential for facilitating personal growth, healing, and the integration of the preconscious mind. Bibliography Brewster, F. (2020). African Americans and Jungian Psychology: Leaving the Shadows. Routledge. Doe, J. (2023, April 15). Personal communication. Jung, C. G. (1959). The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious. Princeton University Press. Moore, R., & Turner, D. (2001). The Rites of Passage: Celebrating Life's Changes. Element Books. Nakamura, K. (2018). Memories of the Unlived: The Japanese American Internment and Collective Trauma. Journal of Cultural Psychology, 28(3), 245-263. Smith, J. (2021). The Changing Nature of Psychosis in America: A Meta-Analysis. Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 130(2), 123-135. Somé, M. P. (1993). Ritual: Power, Healing, and Community. Penguin Books. Further Reading Abramson, D. M., & Keshavan, M. S. (2022). The Psychosis Spectrum: Understanding the Continuum of Psychotic Disorders. Oxford University Press. Duran, E., & Duran, B. (1995). Native American Postcolonial Psychology. State University of New York Press. Grof, S., & Grof, C. (1989). Spiritual Emergency: When Personal Transformation Becomes a Crisis. Jeremy P. Tarcher. Hillman, J. (1975). Re-Visioning Psychology. Harper & Row. Kalsched, D. (2013). Trauma and the Soul: A psycho-spiritual approach to human development and its interruption. Routledge. Kirmayer, L. J., Gone, J. P., & Moses, J. (2014). Rethinking Historical Trauma. Transcultural Psychiatry, 51(3), 299-319. Metzner, R. (1999). Green Psychology: Transforming Our Relationship to the Earth. Park Street Press. van der Kolk, B. A. (2014). The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma. Viking. Watkins, M., & Shulman, H. (2008). Toward Psychologies of Liberation. Palgrave Macmillan. Woodman, M., & Dickson, E. (1996). Dancing in the Flames: The Dark Goddess in the Transformation of Consciousness. Shambhala Publications.

The Need to Acknowledge Bicameral Vestiges: Jaynesian Psychology Finds Support not just from the Ancient World By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This post is inspired by a recent exchange I had with a commentator who saw little value in relying on biblical accounts as evidence to support Jaynes's theories because they were “fairytales.” Presumably such a criticism could be extended to other writings that constitute humanity's extensive religious tradition. It is worth responding to this line of critique because it is not an uncommon reaction from those who find fault with Jaynes (and for what it's worth, Jaynes did not set out to explain the origins of religion; his research was on the origin of consciousness). Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/2022/04/26/the-need-to-acknowledge-bicameral-vestiges/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

In this episode of History 102, 'WhatIfAltHists' creator Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg dive into the West European Dark Ages, discussing the period from the fall of Rome until the rise of medieval Europe around 1000 AD. Were they really a decline or a period of critical transformation? Uncover the surprising truth behind this oft-misunderstood era.

Tonight I will be joined by friend of the show and Glass artist Andrew Tischler to continue our discussion on Julian Jaynes' theory of consciousness and book “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind”. Check out Atischlerglass on Instagram if you are interested in checking some of Andrew's amazing glass art.  *I am currently in the process of creating a free philosophy course called “Masters of Rhetoric” on the origins and history of philosophy and how those ideas shaped the modern world we navigate today. Also on my patreon page I will be creating a philosophy course on how to investigate and navigate the fringe communities and topics and giving and honest assessment of the main researchers and calling out the snake oil salesmen.  *Watch our documentary “As Within So Without: from UFOs to DMT”: ⁠ https://youtu.be/ao9fyP-lS2I?si=zQI3ok4aFNQkvl31 *Check out our new Merch store. We have some amazing designs for T-shirts, Hoodies, Mugs, Stickers, and more ⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-escape?ref_id=24655 *If you are watching on Youtube please check us out on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all audio/podcast platforms. We appreciate reviews and comments. If you are listening on an audio/podcast platform please check out our Youtube channel where we do our episodes live. You can find all of our links on our LinkTree  LinkTree: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/MindEscapePodcast *Here is the link to the book we discuss in this episode: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Consciousness-Breakdown-Bicameral-Mind-ebook/dp/B009MBTRHA?ref_=ast_author_dp --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mindescape/support

Disentangling Inner Speech, Self-dialogue, and Auditory Hallucinations: The Mind Is a Machine for Sociopsychological Communication By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). How are inner speech, self-dialogue, auditory imagery, and hallucinations related? And what exactly are hallucinations? Some have suggested that hallucinations are caused by a monitoring defect in inner speech (also termed inner voice, silent speech, subvocal speech, covert speech, self talk, internal monologue, verbal thought, etc.) (Fernyhough, The Voices Within, 2016). Such a claim, however, ignores the overwhelming evidence concerning hallucinations before about 1000 BCE. Any theoretical linkage must take into account one crucial datum: hallucinations were central to normal sociopsychological functioning. Hallucinations, which were ubiquitous in the ancient world, were a mechanism for social control (until about the first millennium BCE). The “monitoring defect” hypothesis confuses matters: Rather than hallucinations resulting from a problem with inner speech, inner speech is a type of watered-down hallucination. This is why, arguably, for some an inner voice possesses agent-like properties or is accompanied by a felt presence, suggesting vestigial bicameral mentality. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/2021/10/26/disentangling-inner-speech-self-dialogue-and-auditory-hallucinations/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Consciousness, Cognition, and Free Will: A Jaynesian Perspective An Interview by Vinay Kolhatkar with Julian Jaynes Society Founder and Executive Director Marcel Kuijsten. Marcel Kuijsten discusses the uniquely human consciousness from a Jaynesian perspective with the show's host, Vinay Kolhatkar. Also covered are free will and cognition, the cognitive explosion of Ancient Greece, pre-conceptual ancient cultures prevalent today, the human disposition to obeying authorial voices, and the enormous canvas for future research. Courtesy of the Savvy Street Show (https://www.thesavvystreet.com/). Watch the video here: https://youtu.be/tAE5WL5XvDQ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

History, Not Evolution, Is the Key Variable for Understanding Consciousness: The Temporal Extension Thesis and the Adaptive Psyche By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). The human mind is always adjusting, accommodating, and adopting resources from outside itself to expand and improve its capabilities. Such adaptation, if broadly understood, unfolds across different temporal spans. But a glaring weakness of mainstream research psychology is its almost complete neglect of a time-scale that would illuminate how the human mind changes over a few generations or several centuries. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/2021/09/15/history-not-evolution-key-variable-for-understanding-consciousness/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Has Human Mentality Changed? Part 2: Cognitive Relativism and Jaynesian Psychology By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). In Part 1 of “Has Human Mentality Changed?” I discussed how the contributions of Julian Jaynes bolster a radical neuroplastic understanding of the mind, especially if the crucial role of the cultural acquisitions of adaptive cognitive capabilities are incorporated into the analysis of historical changes in psychology, i.e., a neurocultural perspective. Here I want to explore some of the implications of psychic diversity. Three different perspectives illustrate well the significance of psychic plasticity. Though my present discussion is about psychic plasticity as an enculturating (extra-genetic) process, neurophysiological changes cannot be ignored (thus, “neurocultural”). Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/has-human-mentality-changed-part-2/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Has Human Mentality Changed? Part 1: Neuroplasticity and Jaynesian Psychology By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). The media and scientific journals give much attention to “neuroplasticity” (the brain's innate ability to form and reorganize synaptic connections in response to learning or injury), “neurodiversity” (variations in the brain regarding sociability, learning, attention, mood, and other various mental functions), “neurotypical,” and “neuroatypical.” From an intellectual historical perspective these terms elicit interest because they call into question, at least in a very general sense, what has been a foundational concept of the social sciences: Psychic unity. Introduced by the anthropologist Adolf Bastian (1826‒1905), psychic unity was further conceptualized early in the twentieth century as an intellectual assault on racism by enlightened, well-meaning, anthropologists. Psychic unity is a universalist idea postulating that that human mentality is more or less the same everywhere; it challenged the previously dominant view of social Darwinism that viewed societies climbing a ladder of civilizational progress. At the top were late-nineteenth century industrially-advanced societies whose technological prowess was assumed to grant them superiority. In the case of northern European and American powers, it was assumed that their “white,” Christian identity explained their success (though Japan, which was not far behind the Euro-American sphere in terms of “progress,” obviously did not rely on white racialism and Christianity to account for its achievements). It was thought that less successful societies had not acquired the cognitive capabilities to compete with those higher up the ladder of civilization. The premises of psychic unity are still prevalent among not a few psychologists and configures assumptions that restrict research, despite recent interest in neuroplasticity and neurodiversity. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/has-human-mentality-changed-part-1/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Here we go again!Ken McCarthy is a seminal pioneer both of the commercial Internet and citizen journalism.Time Magazine credits him with being the first person to recognize and articulate the importance of the click-through rate as a key metric for making the Internet commercially viable.In 1997, he launched the first news blog ever, a detailed account of an election fraud investigation in San Francisco as it unfolded.He was also a pioneer of, and in some cases directly initiated, the use of many now- common Internet publishing activities: email marketing (1994), banner advertising (1994), A/B split testing (1996), email auto-responders (1996), blogging (1997), push-button audio content (now known as “podcasting”) (2002), online video (2005), and mobile marketing (2008).He was introduced to the practice of science as an undergraduate at Princeton University where he studied with Julian Jaynes (psychology) and Bart Hoebel (neuroscience). He's currently actively involved in advancing innovations in neurology and rehabilitative medicine through his support of fundamental research.On February 1, 2020, he predicted in writing on two Twitters posts that 1) the news out of China was suspect, 2) it gave the appearance of being a news media campaign for flu shots, and 3) it could possibly lead to the rapid development of dangerous coronavirus vaccines with more focus on speed than “science."In August of 2020, Ken released the documentary “Fauci's First Fraud” which was cited 28 times in the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. book “The Real Anthony Fauci.”He is author of the new book “What the Nurses Saw” about the systemic medical murders that took place and continue to take place under cover of COVID hysteria. Visit www.WhatTheNursesSaw.com to learn more.Show sponsored by RogersHood.com, use code IDM for 10% off your order!Support the Show.For more Informed Dissent visit our website at Informed Dissent Media Follow us on Social media @InformedDissentMedia

Here we go again!Ken McCarthy is a seminal pioneer both of the commercial Internet and citizen journalism.Time Magazine credits him with being the first person to recognize and articulate the importance of the click-through rate as a key metric for making the Internet commercially viable.In 1997, he launched the first news blog ever, a detailed account of an election fraud investigation in San Francisco as it unfolded.He was also a pioneer of, and in some cases directly initiated, the use of many now- common Internet publishing activities: email marketing (1994), banner advertising (1994), A/B split testing (1996), email auto-responders (1996), blogging (1997), push-button audio content (now known as “podcasting”) (2002), online video (2005), and mobile marketing (2008).He was introduced to the practice of science as an undergraduate at Princeton University where he studied with Julian Jaynes (psychology) and Bart Hoebel (neuroscience). He's currently actively involved in advancing innovations in neurology and rehabilitative medicine through his support of fundamental research.On February 1, 2020, he predicted in writing on two Twitters posts that 1) the news out of China was suspect, 2) it gave the appearance of being a news media campaign for flu shots, and 3) it could possibly lead to the rapid development of dangerous coronavirus vaccines with more focus on speed than “science."In August of 2020, Ken released the documentary “Fauci's First Fraud” which was cited 28 times in the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. book “The Real Anthony Fauci.”He is author of the new book “What the Nurses Saw” about the systemic medical murders that took place and continue to take place under cover of COVID hysteria. Visit www.WhatTheNursesSaw.com to learn more.Show sponsored by RogersHood.com, use code IDM for 10% off your order!Support the showFor more Informed Dissent visit our website at Informed Dissent Media Follow us on Social media @InformedDissentMedia

Jim talks with Tor Nørretranders about the ideas in his 1991 book The User Illusion: Cutting Consciousness Down to Size. They discuss the dialogue between Niels Bohr and Albert Einstein, defining consciousness, primary vs extended consciousness, the origins of the user illusion in computer interface design, the mind as an attempt to create a relevant myth, measuring the human mind in terms of information theory, consciousness as a story of reduction & compression, the physics of information, Maxwell's demon, I & me, Benjamin Libet's experiments on the delay of consciousness, being the spectator of our own acts, delayed auditory feedback, the veto theory, moving free will to the "me," Robert Sapolsky's arguments against free will, the reality of emergence, exformation, a simple translation of The Iliad, Julian Jaynes's theory of the origins of consciousness, why modern lives have less information, the problem with a subtractive approach to happiness, and much more. Episode Transcript The User Illusion: Cutting Consciousness Down to Size, by Tor Nørretranders JRS EP203 - Robert Sapolsky on Life Without Free Will "The Hedgehog's Song," by The Incredible String Band The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, by Julian Jaynes Tor Nørretranders is an independent author, thinker and speaker based in Denmark, serving an international audience. Generally seen as a leading science communicator of Denmark, Tor has involved himself in numerous activities in the public arena, from newspaper journalism through books and magazine articles to hosting and producing television shows on science and the general world view. His lecture tours, gathering tens of thousands of people, have been major events on the Scandinavian scene.

Putting Julian Jaynes's Theory to the Test Jaynes's Theorizings, Like All Great Systems of Thought, Require Hypotheses-testing and Experimentation to Be Substantiated By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). It is easy to forget that the Newtonian, Darwinian, and Einsteinian intellectual edifices were built over many years, painstakingly solidified brick by brick through batteries of well-designed experiments and careful analyses. Science is the sturdy house that such patient construction continually erects. Consider the work of Julian Jaynes. Over the years I have heard many dismissively say “it's an interesting theory but it can't be proven.” Such remarks demonstrate a misunderstanding of the nature of scientific progress as well as what is needed to come to terms with Jaynesian theorizing. The contributions of Jaynes constitute an entire paradigm that reaches far beyond psychology. It is a constellation of bold, innovative ideas with far-ranging implications and great breadth that sheds new light on neurology, history, religious studies, psychotherapeutics, archaeology, linguistics, philosophy, literature, and other arts. So what is needed, then, is a breaking down of Jaynes's core theories into numerous propositions, postulations, and hypotheses appropriate to different disciplines and fields of expertise. That way his claims can be systematically tested. That is a tall order and demands the contributions of a legion of specialists. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/putting-julian-jaynes-theory-to-the-test/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Fact Checking Scott Alexander's Discussion of Julian Jaynes's Theory on “Slate Star Codex” By Marcel Kuijsten Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). In June 2020, the psychiatrist and blogger Scott Alexander wrote a review of Julian Jaynes's The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind for his popular “Slate Star Codex” blog. His discussion of Jaynes's theory contains a number of misconceptions and errors, and I will attempt to clear those up here. While the first three sections of his review are more or less just a summary of Jaynes's main arguments and some topics he feels are related or supportive, the issues I'd like to address can be found in the fourth and fifth sections of his post. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/fact-checks/fact-checking-scott-alexander-part2/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Conscious Interiority Is a Constellation of Processes But Attention-grabbing Headlines in the Scientific Literature Mistakenly Suggest that Consciousness is an All-purpose Psychological Stuff By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠⁠). Pretend you're from another dimension and unfamiliar with cars, planes, trains, and ships. But you quickly notice what they share in common: Motion. You're interested in discovering exactly how these contraptions work and decide that to understand them you need to investigate motion-ness. So you begin to take them apart, piece by piece, looking for the essence of movement. However, try as you might, you can't discover the mysterious potency animating the operation of going from point A to point B. But you're absolutely convinced that motion-ness must exist somewhere in or around anything imbued with the power of mobility.   Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/conscious-interiority-is-a-constellation-of-processes/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Conscious Interiority and the Language Trap Why We Struggle to Explain Consciousness By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠⁠). Cleaning up the mess surrounding the uses of “consciousness” is not an airy, abstruse, or esoteric subject, a topic only for absent-minded academics with their heads in the clouds. This discussion has serious, profound, and practical implications. Neuroscientists employ terminology to delineate the differences between being asleep, in a coma, or in a state of ordinary consciously interiorized mentation. Physicians, psychiatrists, psychotherapists, counselors, and other mental health care providers need to be able to differentiate various forms of cognition to facilitate healing. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/conscious-interiority-and-the-language-trap/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

A Relay-Race Model of Conscious Interiority A Cultural Invention, Consciousness Needs to Be Relearned with Each Generation By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠⁠, ⁠⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠⁠). The word “consciousness” usually evokes something neuroanatomical, intimately bound up with perceptual experiences, an evolutionary psychological feature from our very distant past that is inherent to the brain itself. Consciousness for many seems to be a general term for any type of sensory, conceptual, or thinking process. This leads to muddled theorizing. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/a-relay-race-model-of-conscious-interiority/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Consciousness Is a Cultural Add-on A Product of History Not Reducible to Neurology, Conscious Interiority Is Like Mathematics By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (⁠www.theungoogleable.com⁠, ⁠www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen⁠). When we hear the word “consciousness” many of us, in a knee-jerk manner, associate it with neuroanatomy, neurophysiology, or something physically inborn. We also link it to perceptual or cognitive processes that are non-historical and non-cultural. However, according to Jaynesian psychology, these are all misleading assumptions, since consciousness is not necessary for perception, learning, and reasoning. It is extra-genetic and a product of sociocultural forces and it entered the historical scene relatively recently, about three millennia ago. Indeed, as a culturally-configured form of knowledge, consciousness is closer to mathematics or other domains of learning. Consciousness is a very special form of knowledge, of course, but an array of socially-acquired ideas nevertheless. Let's consider how mathematics is similar to consciousness. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/consciousness-is-a-cultural-add-on/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠.

Jaynesian Therapeutics and the Self-healing Mind: Part 2 Lessons from Hallucinations, Hypnosis, and Meditation By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (www.theungoogleable.com, www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen). In Part 1 we looked at how something we take for granted — consciousness — is actually an active ingredient that can aid in the repair of the mind for certain mental disorders. In this Part we explore how anomalous psychological experiences hold lessons for how consciousness relates to the self-healing mind. Various manifestations of mentality — ordinary consciousness, hallucinations, hypnosis, meditation — are like a colorful tapestry with different patterns but woven together with the same threads. The challenge is disentangling and isolating the threads so as to understand the psychological processes behind these phenomena, especially since this can help understand the therapeutic benefits of certain mental exercises. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/jaynesian-therapeutics-and-the-self-healing-mind-part-2-of-2/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠.

Jaynesian Therapeutics and the Self-healing Mind: Part 1 Harnessing the Active Ingredients of Psychotherapy By Brian J. McVeigh Read by Michael R. Jacobs (www.theungoogleable.com). His YouTube channel is www.youtube.com/@VoidDenizen. It is an interesting fact that the success rates for different psychotherapies are about the same. This is why researchers have searched for “common factors” that facilitate the healing process. The goal, then, should be to discover the common “active ingredients” of all therapies, e.g., the personality of the therapist, the “therapeutic alliance.” Could consciousness itself constitute a common factor that can be cultivated in order to repair troubled minds? Could consciousness underlie the effectiveness of the self-healing mind? Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/jaynesian-therapeutics-and-the-self-healing-mind-part-1-of-2/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠www.julianjaynes.org⁠.

Appreciating Other Facets of Jaynesian Psychology: Part 2 By Brian J. McVeigh In Part 1 of “Appreciating Other Facets of Jaynesian Psychology” I began a discussion of aspects of Jaynesian psychology that if appreciated, add depth and perhaps persuasiveness to Jaynes's arguments. I focused on how understanding Jaynes investigation of how language has constructed conscious interiority. Here I introduce some more facets of Jaynesian psychology. I suggest that given the richness and breadth of Jaynes's thinking, we need to propose a “Jaynesian intellectual paradigm” that goes beyond mere psychological theorizing. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/appreciating-other-facets-of-jaynesian-psychology-part-2/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at www.julianjaynes.org.

Fact Checking Erik Hoel's Comments on Julian Jaynes's Theory in "The World Behind the World: Consciousness, Free Will, and the Limits of Science." A brief discussion between Marcel Kuijsten and Brian J. McVeigh, fact checking Erik Hoel's recent comments on Julian Jaynes's theory in his book "The World Behind the World: Consciousness, Free Will, and the Limits of Science." They discuss a number of different problems with Erik Hoel's understanding of Julian Jaynes's theory. They also explain the critique of Jaynes's theory raised by Hoel (and originally made by Ned Block) referred to as the "use/mention error," and how that critique was later addressed by Julian Jaynes, Daniel Dennett, and Jan Sleutels. Read the blog post: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/fact-checks/fact-checking-erik-hoel/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠​. References from the video: Brian J. McVeigh, "Fact Checking Erik Hoel's “The World Behind the World: Consciousness, Free Will, and the Limits of Science,” August 6, 2023. (https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/fact-checks/fact-checking-erik-hoel/) Julian Jaynes, "Afterword," in Julian Jaynes, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" (Mariner Books, 1976/1990). (https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Consciousness-Breakdown-Bicameral-Mind/dp/0618057072/) Jan Sleutels, "Greek Zombies: On the Alleged Absurdity of Substantially Unconscious Greek Minds," in Marcel Kuijsten (ed.) "Reflections on the Dawn of Consciousness: Julian Jaynes's Bicameral Mind Theory Revisited" (Julian Jaynes Society, 2006). (https://www.julianjaynes.org/book/reflections-on-the-dawn-of-consciousness/) Daniel Dennett, "Julian Jaynes' Software Archeology," Canadian Psychology, 1986, 27, 2, 149-154. (https://www.julianjaynes.org/resources/articles/julian-jaynes-software-archeology/) Marcel Kuijsten (ed.), "Conversations on Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind: Interviews with Leading Thinkers on Julian Jaynes's Theory" (Julian Jaynes Society, 2022). (https://www.julianjaynes.org/book/conversations-on-consciousness-and-the-bicameral-mind/)

Includes discussion of the problem of consciousness, what is consciousness is and is not according to Julian Jaynes, the importance of metaphorical language and writing, features of consciousness, Nicholas Humphrey's research on cave art and autism, evidence from the Iliad, ancient bicameral civilizations, the Thera explosion and ensuing tsunami, and Michael Carr's research on the bicameral mind in China. In the second hour, Marcel Kuijsten discusses the role of drugs, entheogens, hallucinogens in eliciting bicameral hallucinations, the importance of dreams in documenting the transition from bicamerality to consciousness, the origin of religion and the bicameral mind, and more. Also discussed is the significance to the theory of religious figures like Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, to more modern people like William Blake, Emanuel Swedenborg and Joseph Smith. To listen to the full 100-minute interview, learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory, or become a member, visit the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠​.

Appreciating Other Facets of Jaynesian Psychology: Part 1 By Brian J. McVeigh Jaynesian psychology can be distilled down to two major claims. First, until about three millennia ago individual behavior was governed by a different neurocultural arrangement called bicameral mentality: the right hemisphere generated audiovisual hallucinations interpreted as supernatural visitations (ancestors, chiefs, gods) that governed the left hemisphere (the “mortal” side). But bicameral mentality was no match for social transformations — expanding demographics, more complex political economic systems, mass migration, and technological innovations such as writing and bronze and ironworking.  This brings us to Jaynes's second claim. What he called consciousness, or subjective introspectable self-awareness, replaced bicameral mentality. This cognitive upgrade was a cultural invention, not a bioevolutionary development. Like crowning towers built upon lower tiers and structures, Jaynes's two claims rest on a number of interlocking theories that deserve attention. This is because unfortunately, reviewers, commentators, and critics often fail to see the subtlety of Jaynes's arguments. Even critiques that are sympathetic to Jaynes's claims often miss the nuances and richness of his theorizing, so it is worth exploring some of the chambers making up Jaynes's intellectual edifice. Read the complete text from this episode here: https://www.julianjaynes.org/blog/julian-jaynes-theory/appreciating-other-facets-of-jaynesian-psychology-part-1/ Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠⁠​.

"Julian Jaynes and the Bicameral Mind Theory," an interview with Marcel Kuijsten by Dustin Eirdosh. Includes an introduction to Julian Jaynes's theory, an explanation of what consciousness is and is not according to Julian Jaynes, consciousness and language, an explanation of the bicameral mind, follow up books on Jaynes's theory, the origin of the Julian Jaynes Society, misconceptions about Jaynes's theory, confusion over the term "consciousness," the origin of religion and the bicameral mind, new evidence for Jaynes's theory, and much more. Learn more about Julian Jaynes's theory or become a member by visiting the Julian Jaynes Society at ⁠⁠https://www.julianjaynes.org⁠⁠​.

Part 7 in a series of interviews on the book I'm working on, ⁠Neither/Nor⁠. In this episode, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Isabela Granic⁠⁠⁠⁠ asks about three thinkers that have influenced my thinking: Julian Jaynes (1920–1997), Leo Tolstoy (1828–1910), and Zhuangzi (369–286 BC) sometimes written Zhuang Zhou or Chuang-tzǔ). Previous episodes: Part 6 of this series: Mental Proliferation Part 5 of this series: ⁠Crises and Revolutions⁠ Part 4 of this series: ⁠⁠Language and Experience⁠⁠ Part 3 of this series: ⁠⁠⁠AI and Pyrrhonism⁠⁠⁠ Part 2 of this series: ⁠⁠⁠⁠A Philosophical Journey⁠⁠⁠ Part 1 of this series: ⁠⁠⁠Causality and Conditionality⁠⁠⁠ Clerestory by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Bryan Kam⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Infrequent updates at ⁠⁠⁠⁠Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠ • All my work plus exclusive content at ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠ Show notes --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bkam/message

Tonight I will be joined by friend of the show and Glass artist Andrew Tischler to discuss Julian Jaynes' theory of consciousness and book “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind”. We will also discuss metaphysics and Glass art towards the end. Check out Atischlerglass on Instagram if you are interested in checking some of Andrew's amazing glass art.  LinkTree:  https://linktr.ee/MindEscapePodcast *HERE IS THE LINK TO WATCH “As Within So Without” Director's Cut: https://www.patreon.com/posts/as-within-so-to-80209747?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link *Here is the link to the free version of our documentary on Youtube “As Within So Without: From UFOs to DMT”: https://youtu.be/ao9fyP-lS2I *Here is a link to all of our psychedelics episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLJ-BaaY8oWuaPZBRBTqdFCcvX0x27yPH&feature=shared *Here is a link to all of our episodes with Dr. Gregory Little: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLJ-BaaY8oWszNXWlMrqdl1r6eU5fByGG&feature=shared *Check out our new Merch store. We have some amazing designs for T-shirts, Hoodies, Mugs, Stickers, and more https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-escape?ref_id=24655 *If you like our new logo and looking for an artist check out Aubrey at: https://aubreynehring.com/ *Here are the links to Maurice's new music and band: Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/album/3OjyabL62FsmUhKW6SNUdU Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClDsH7i057uGTdKEiqRXWcg *Here is the link to the book we discuss in this episode: https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Consciousness-Breakdown-Bicameral-Mind-ebook/dp/B009MBTRHA?ref_=ast_author_dp --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mindescape/support

A new theory on consciousness may explain why psychopaths hear voices telling them to kill.Covered topics: Son of Sam, the bicameral mind, Julian Jaynes, The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, Jared Lee Loughner, Herbert Mullin Further Reading:https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/roger-sperrys-split-brain-experiments-1959-1968https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F30Jykk8z0Ehttps://www.forensicscolleges.com/blog/resources/dangerous-minds-criminal-mental-illnesshttps://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/evidence-and-research/learn-more-about/3627https://www.ranker.com/list/people-driven-insane-by-voices-in-their-heads/jacob-sheltonhttps://news.stanford.edu/2014/07/16/voices-culture-luhrmann-071614/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Jayneshttp://maamodt.asp.radford.edu/psyc%20405/serial%20killers/berkowitz,%20david.pdfhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berkowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qU1sDBU9Cshttps://nypost.com/2016/07/17/i-survived-son-of-sams-murder-spree/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y50nsmUVeVU Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Seriah is joined by Michael Angelo, Chris Ernst, Joshua Cutchin, and Saxon/Super Inframan for a fascinating roundtable. Topics include human memory, past lives, ayahuasca, Indigenous Australians and dreams, a Malaysian tribe and dream experiences, art and the unconscious, places experienced only in dreams, a memorable experience in New Zealand, Eric Wargo, major and minor dreams, feedback loops, increasing speeds of communication, Terence McKenna, time wave zero, novelty and information, dueling Terence McKenna impersonations (no, really), city vs. country environments, West Virginia cryptids, Appalachian high strangeness, entanglement with media and mass information, a survey of plants and animals in Japan, long-time traditions, Djinn vs. electronics, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Ernesto de Martino, magic and magic-accepting cultures, Rupert Sheldrake, experiences in the Mexican jungle, naming creatures, modern medicine and its outliers, language and its purposes, different languages and personalities, Adriano Celentano, “Prisencolinensinainciusol” an Italian hit song in pseudo-English, the film “Skewrl”, the film “Titus”, subtitles, translation and its complications, an episode of the TV series “News Radio”, Joe Rogan and Tony Danza, the film “Genghis Blues”, Mongolian throat singing, Paul Pena, “Jet Airliner” by the Steve Miller Band, Biblical translations, apocryphal texts, an incident from “Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy”, Julian Jaynes, the bicameral mind, the Great Year and the Yuga cycle and its interpretations, Daniel O. McClellan, the Iliad, Graham Hancock, cycles within cycles, “Finnegans Wake” by James Joyce, Walter Cruttenden, Procession of the Equinox, ages and consciousness, a binary star cycle with Sirius, Robert Shock, psychics and solar activity, Laird Scranton, the Dogan people, Fish-headed entities, two universes, Wim Wender's film “Wings of Desire”, the Nick Cage re-make “City of Angels”, Kevin Randle's book “The October Scenario”, Anthony Peake, Joshua Cutchin's “Ecology of Souls”, incarnations and the higher self, simulation theory, Vedanta cosmology/theology, the TV series “Invasion”, Sutton Hoo Anglo-Saxon archeological site, Rendlesham Forest, an ancient ship, “The Dig” Netflix series, folklore, trolls in Norway, the Spirit of the Land, Mexican Fae folk, pareidolia and its possible meanings, Don Quixote, Dziga Vertov and the kino eye, the breakdown of consensus reality, co-creation, the replicability crisis in science, Robert Temple, necromancy, and much more! This is absolutely riveting conversation!This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4656375/advertisement

Seriah is joined by Michael Angelo and Natalie. Topics include google and “ungoogability”, linguistics, film-making and acting, Julian Jaynes's “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind”, a strange series of emails, a vision while ingesting a jungle plant, synchronicities with lemurs, dream entities, Terence McKenna, 9/11 experiences, experiences with an Alzheimer's affected relative, a lengthy road trip, synchronicities with snails, pandemic experiences, two years living in the jungle in an artists' commune, an encounter with a flesh-eating parasite, psychedelics, a strange jungle creature, a weird experience with a stray cat, telling the stories of liminal spaces, a bizarre encounter with a shaman and a tarantula, a fascinating LSD trip, poetry, an experience with a rooster and a shaman, healing, hallucinogens, vegetable reality, a experience with belladonna tea, a group mental time-slip, a childhood accidental belladonna trip, fever dreams and childhood visions, Jill Bolte Taylor, Eric Wargo's “Time Loops”, “Oxenfree” video game, The Strange Realities conference, dream experiences, outside entities in dream encounters, the mythological three Norns, Jason Moss, NYC's Psychedelic Athenaeum, the non-individual nature of the self, intuition, experiences receiving specific information in dreams, dreaming as a survival mechanism, Alfred North Whitehead, and much more! This is one of the most fascinating, weirdest conversations in a long time!This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4656375/advertisement

Seriah is joined by Michael Angelo, Chris Ernst, Joshua Cutchin, and Saxon/Super Inframan for a fascinating roundtable. Topics include human memory, past lives, ayahuasca, Indigenous Australians and dreams, a Malaysian tribe and dream experiences, art and the unconscious, places experienced only in dreams, a memorable experience in New Zealand, Eric Wargo, major and minor dreams, feedback loops, increasing speeds of communication, Terence McKenna, time wave zero, novelty and information, dueling Terence McKenna impersonations (no, really), city vs. country environments, West Virginia cryptids, Appalachian high strangeness, entanglement with media and mass information, a survey of plants and animals in Japan, long-time traditions, Djinn vs. electronics, Rosemary Ellen Guiley, Ernesto de Martino, magic and magic-accepting cultures, Rupert Sheldrake, experiences in the Mexican jungle, naming creatures, modern medicine and its outliers, language and its purposes, different languages and personalities, Adriano Celentano, “Prisencolinensinainciusol” an Italian hit song in pseudo-English, the film “Skewrl”, the film “Titus”, subtitles, translation and its complications, an episode of the TV series “News Radio”, Joe Rogan and Tony Danza, the film “Genghis Blues”, Mongolian throat singing, Paul Pena, “Jet Airliner” by the Steve Miller Band, Biblical translations, apocryphal texts, an incident from “Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy”, Julian Jaynes, the bicameral mind, the Great Year and the Yuga cycle and its interpretations, Daniel O. McClellan, the Iliad, Grahm Hancock, cycles within cycles, “Finnegans Wake” by James Joyce, Walter Cruttenden, Procession of the Equinox, ages and consciousness, a binary star cycle with Sirius, Robert Shock, psychics and solar activity, Laird Scranton, the Dogan people, Fish-headed entities, two universes, Wim Wender's film “Wings of Desire”, the Nick Cage re-make “City of Angels”, Kevin Randle's book “The October Scenario”, Anthony Peake, Joshua Cutchin's “Ecology of Souls”, incarnations and the higher self, simulation theory, Vedanta cosmology/theology, the TV series “Invasion”, Sutton Hoo Anglo-Saxon archeological site, Rendlesham Forest, an ancient ship, “The Dig” Netflix series, folklore, trolls in Norway, the Spirit of the Land, Mexican Fae folk, pareidolia and its possible meanings, Don Quixote, Dziga Vertov and the kino eye, the breakdown of consensus reality, co-creation, the replicability crisis in science, Robert Temple, necromancy, and much more! This is absolutely riveting conversation! - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast Outro Music is Our Mortality from 50 Dollar Dynasty. Download

Seriah is joined by Michael Angelo and Natalie. Topics include google and “ungoogability”, linguistics, film-making and acting, Julian Jaynes's “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind”, a strange series of emails, a vision while ingesting a jungle plant, synchronicities with lemurs, dream entities, Terence McKenna, 9/11 experiences, experiences with an Alzheimer's affected relative, a lengthy road trip, synchronicities with snails, pandemic experiences, two years living in the jungle in an artists' commune, an encounter with a flesh-eating parasite, psychedelics, a strange jungle creature, a weird experience with a stray cat, telling the stories of liminal spaces, a bizarre encounter with a shaman and a tarantula, a fascinating LSD trip, poetry, an experience with a rooster and a shaman, healing, hallucinogens, vegetable reality, a experience with belladonna tea, a group mental time-slip, a childhood accidental belladonna trip, fever dreams and childhood visions, Jill Bolte Taylor, Eric Wargo's “Time Loops”, “Oxenfree” video game, The Strange Realities conference, dream experiences, outside entities in dream encounters, the mythological three Norns, Jason Moss, NYC's Psychedelic Athenaeum, the non-individual nature of the self, intuition, experiences receiving specific information in dreams, dreaming as a survival mechanism, Alfred North Whitehead, and much more! This is one of the most fascinating, weirdest conversations in a long time! - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast https://www.theungoogleable.com/ Outro Music is Tragic Magic by Void Denizen Download

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Will AI change what it means to be human? Sean Illing talks with essayist Meghan O'Gieblyn, author of God, Human, Animal, Machine, a book about how the way we understand human nature has been interwoven with how we understand our own technology. They discuss the power of metaphor in describing fundamental aspects of being human, the "transhumanism" movement, and what we're after when we seek companionship in a chatbot. Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area Guest: Meghan O'Gieblyn, essayist; author References:  God, Human, Animal, Machine: Technology, Metaphor, and the Search for Meaning by Meghan O'Gieblyn (Anchor; 2021) The Age of Spiritual Machines by Ray Kurzweil (Penguin; 1999) The Sociology of Religion by Max Weber (1920) "Facing Up to the Problem of Consciousness" by David Chalmers (1995) The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes (1976) "Routine Maintenance" by Meghan O'Gieblyn (Harper's; Jan. 2022) "Babel" by Meghan O'Gieblyn (n+1; Summer 2021) The Society of Mind by Marvin Minsky (Simon & Schuster; 1986) Job (Old Testament), 38:1 – 42:6 "The Google engineer who thinks the company's AI has come to life" by Nitasha Tiku (Washington Post; June 11, 2022) The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky (1880) "Will AI Achieve Consciousness? Wrong Question" by Daniel Dennett (WIRED; Feb. 19, 2019) Enjoyed this episode? Rate The Gray Area ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of The Gray Area. Subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Support The Gray Area by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by:  Producer: Erikk Geannikis Engineer: Patrick Boyd Editorial Director, Vox Talk: A.M. Hall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Seriah is joined by Chris Ernst and Super-Inframan for a listener stories episode. Topics include the bicameral mind theory of Julian Jaynes, the equal intelligence of ancient peoples, the industrial revolution, the distinction between perception and interpretation, condescending attitudes toward experiencers, masking and screen memories, the brain and the subtle body, flesh-and-blood Bigfoot, misleading headlines about an alien mothership, Parliament funk musician Bootsy Collins, an AI chatbot alleging writings Seriah didn't actually do, a listener encounter with an overpowering sulfur odor and intense fear, spirit contact, John Keel and fields of fear, a strange experience with a streetlight, a spiritual teacher and electro-magnetic chi, kundalini energy, a man impervious to electrical shock, a personal experience of a frog fall while driving in fog, the Bennington Triangle, Travis Watson, an encounter with a massive upright black wolf, liminality, Jacques Vallee and control systems, paranormal experiences pushing people into questioning reality, youthful hostile interactions with Greys, psychokinetic energy, the paranormal as a performance, a worm fall in China, “The Call of the Void” podcast, a strange experience with a vision of a mandala image and the god Pan, a terrifying encounter with a mysterious stranger in a van and a strange voice, a rolling ball of light on the road in the middle of the night, experiencing wood knocks at a city bus stop, finding a dead owl during a time of family crisis and a dream of Fae accompanied by the growth of mushrooms, synchronicities and gradations between the supernatural and mundane, and much more! These are some fascinating tales accompanied by insightful commentary!

Seriah is joined by Chris Ernst and Super-Inframan for a listener stories episode. Topics include the bicameral mind theory of Julian Jaynes, the equal intelligence of ancient peoples, the industrial revolution, the distinction between perception and interpretation, condescending attitudes toward experiencers, masking and screen memories, the brain and the subtle body, flesh-and-blood Bigfoot, misleading headlines about an alien mothership, Parliament funk musician Bootsy Collins, an AI chatbot alleging writings Seriah didn't actually do, a listener encounter with an overpowering sulfur odor and intense fear, spirit contact, John Keel and fields of fear, a strange experience with a streetlight, a spiritual teacher and electro-magnetic chi, kundalini energy, a man impervious to electrical shock, a personal experience of a frog fall while driving in fog, the Bennington Triangle, Travis Watson, an encounter with a massive upright black wolf, liminality, Jacques Vallee and control systems, paranormal experiences pushing people into questioning reality, youthful hostile interactions with Greys, psychokinetic energy, the paranormal as a performance, a worm fall in China, “The Call of the Void” podcast, a strange experience with a vision of a mandala image and the god Pan, a terrifying encounter with a mysterious stranger in a van and a strange voice, a rolling ball of light on the road in the middle of the night, experiencing wood knocks at a city bus stop, finding a dead owl during a time of family crisis and a dream of Fae accompanied by the growth of mushrooms, synchronicities and gradations between the supernatural and mundane, and much more! These are some fascinating tales accompanied by insightful commentary! - Recap by Vincent Treewell of The Weird Part Podcast Outro Music is Out of Time by March and Beauty Download

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In 1976 an obscure psychologist from Princeton University published a book titled, “The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.” It was a sensation, not in small part because Jaynes postulated that before modern consciousness occurred, the voices humans heard in their head were considered those of the gods. He pinpointed the date of this shift to around 1200 B.C.  After this date, humans became self-aware, yet the Delphic Oracle remained relevant because she continued to  flawlessly channel Apollo.In this episode Garner reads from Jaynes' famous book, focusing on the section about prophets and oracles.If you love this podcast, you'll also enjoy Garner's audible novel about the gods, Homo Divinitas, now available on Amazon.com and Audible.com. And find us on Youtube as well!Support the show

Seriah welcomes Taylor Bell, Wren Collier, and Chris Ernst for wide-ranging discussion. Topics include "the Skinwalker Ranch of the South", a magickal ritual performed at night, spirit boxes, "living geometry", glow worms, synchronicities, vampire and Fae folklore surrounding counting, Nathan Issacs and "Penny Royal", co-creation of paranormal phenomena, guidance from the higher self, the human body as a portal, death and the paranormal, ghost hunting paraphernalia, reincarnation and other realms, Nag Hammadi scrolls and Gnostic appocryphal texts, a possible 5 dimensional universe, new age vibration theory, the subtle body and subtle organs, the reality of the imaginal, multi-dimensional sigils, inner monologue and intuition and language, the Tower of Babel, Ramsey Dukes, communication without verbal language, telepathy, "Amazon Beaming" by Petru Popescu, an encounter with the spirit of a dead friend, Terence McKenna, untranslatable/inexpressible ideas, oral vs. written language, "The Bicameral Mind" by Julian Jaynes, the multiple minds within our personalities, ancient ways of thinking, dreams, visualization in sports, and much more! - Recap by Vincent Treewell Outro Music is Lee Lee the Wondergirl from Psyche Corporation Download

Seriah welcomes Taylor Bell, Wren Collier, and Chris Ernst for wide-ranging discussion. Topics include "the Skinwalker Ranch of the South", a magickal ritual performed at night, spirit boxes, "living geometry", glow worms, synchronicities, vampire and Fae folklore surrounding counting, Nathan Issacs and "Penny Royal", co-creation of paranormal phenomena, guidance from the higher self, the human body as a portal, death and the paranormal, ghost hunting paraphernalia, reincarnation and other realms, Nag Hammadi scrolls and Gnostic appocryphal texts, a possible 5 dimensional universe, new age vibration theory, the subtle body and subtle organs, the reality of the imaginal, multi-dimensional sigils, inner monologue and intuition and language, the Tower of Babel, Ramsey Dukes, communication without verbal language, telepathy, "Amazon Beaming" by Petru Popescu, an encounter with the spirit of a dead friend, Terence McKenna, untranslatable/inexpressible ideas, oral vs. written language, "The Bicameral Mind" by Julian Jaynes, the multiple minds within our personalities, ancient ways of thinking, dreams, visualization in sports, and much more! - Recap by Vincent Treewell Outro Music is Lee Lee the Wondergirl from Psyche Corporation Download