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Best podcasts about Arcadia High School

Latest podcast episodes about Arcadia High School

Just Fly Performance Podcast
437: Cody Bidlow on Breaking Sprint Barriers and Intuitive Training Concepts

Just Fly Performance Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2024 76:08


Today's podcast features speed coach, Cody Bidlow. Cody is a track sprints coach, athlete, and founder of Athlete X and SprintingWorkouts.com. He has been a head track & field coach at Arcadia High School in Phoenix, AZ, and a coach at EliteU working with NFL combine prep athletes. An all-conference sprinter for Grand Canyon University, Cody has been a personal coach for professional MLB athletes, track athletes, and consults for coaches around the world. To sprint fast takes an immense amount of effort and focus. To sprint one's fastest in their early 30s takes a deep understanding of the training process and individual factors that account for top performance. On today's episode, Cody speaks on speed training in regards to his current sprinting personal bests at age 32, and how he has dialed his training in this recent year. We speak on many aspects of training on the level of intensity, essentialism, workout regulation, resisted sprinting, complex training, and much more. Today's episode is brought to you by TeamBuildr's Gym Studio and Athletic Development Games. Use the code “justfly25” for 25% off any Lila Exogen wearable resistance training, including the popular Exogen Calf Sleeves. For this offer, head to: Lilateam.com TeamBuildr is an online software for coaches and trainers. Use the code “JUSTFLY” for a free 30-day trial of the TeamBuildr software. For a Gym Studio 14-day free trial, head to gymstudio.com View more podcast episodes at the podcast homepage. Main Points 2:37- Cody's Recent Training Gains, Along with His New Role as a Father 10:00- Using Strategic Breaks for Enhanced Performance 12:33- High-Intensity Athlete Training for Performance Improvement 19:05- Natural Approach to Sprinting Techniques 23:13- Optimizing Training Intensity on a Busy Schedule 29:53- Maximizing Intensity for Effective Workouts 32:41- Performance Optimization through Autoregulation in Training 41:18- Enhancing Performance Through Auto-Regulation Communication 55:11- Enhancing Sprint Performance Through Resisted Load Variation 1:00:29- Concurrent and Complex Training Paradigms for Sprinting Success 1:05:14- Optimal Training Methods for Narrow vs. Wide ISA Types Quotes (26:34) I'd rather walk away from the session knowing that I ended on my best note. I can, you know, ride the dopamine high of seeing that, you know, nice time and having a fun time out at the track and let that be the stimulus for the day rather than, oh, well, the book over here says that I need to do, you know, 350 meters and I only did 240. - Cody Bidlow (34:10) I would say that my training is very autoregulated, but it's not to the point where I'm looking at, oh, velocity dropped by 2.5%, so that's why I'm going to shut it down, It's more, I can tell within myself that I'm getting to a point where I'm starting to get fatigued from this workout – Cody Bidlow (38:24) Are you really going to run faster on this next one? Yes. Okay, do it. Are you going to be safe? Are you or are you going to get hurt? No, I'm not going to get hurt. Okay. Yeah, do it. - Cody Bidlow (44:43) If you just simply ask them, like, how do you feel? They're gonna say good. Bad. You know, they're just gonna say some kind of basic thing because they may not really grasp what I mean by that question. - Cody Bidlow (45:03) So I would try to ask questions in a way where we're getting a little bit deeper. Like, I'd maybe be specific about how do your hamstrings feel? Do you feel like you're going to be able to run as well on the next one? Or what did you feel on that rep? - Cody Bidlow (46:32) The athletes who really want to be good, they're always going to say, yes, I'll always take another rep. The athletes who are lazier, they don't care as much, or, you know, whatever their mental mechanism is, they always. It's almost like, yeah, I'm good. Yeah, I'm done. It's not even necessarily that I want to get better.

True Story: The Public Relations Podcast
Females Who Film: How She Built a Multi-Media Company in a Male-Dominated Space with Carly Gilleland, Founder of The Good Vibe Media Co

True Story: The Public Relations Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2024 29:24


From raising $100k in 60 days to watching her idea for a multi-media studio come to life, Carly Gilleland is a pro at putting in the work and watching the hard-earned results unfold! Tune in today as we talk about the challenges of starting a creative business, working as a woman in a male-dominated industry, and chasing after your dreams! This episode will leave you fired up, ready to take the next steps toward your goal.  ---------- The Good Vibe Media is a woman owned and operated video production company, created in 2016.  Founder, Carly Gilleland, was exposed to video production during her years attending Arcadia High School in Phoenix, Arizona. She created a short documentary about her sister who has special needs. After seeing the impact it made on her classmates, she quickly realized this is what she wanted to do for a living – tell people's stories that have a positive impact. After attending film school in California, she moved back home to Arizona and slowly & organically built The Good Vibe Media to what it is today! The Good Vibe Media is now a full-service video production company, serving clients in Phoenix, Los Angeles, Denver, Nashville and more!  ---------- The Good Vibe Media Connect with Carly on LinkedIn ---------- Connect with Whitney on LinkedIn Connect with Whitney on Instagram

Just Fly Performance Podcast
349: Cody Bidlow on Strength, Technique and Programming in Sprint Development

Just Fly Performance Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2023 82:16


Today's guest is Cody Bidlow.  Cody is currently the head track & field coach at Arcadia High School in Phoenix, AZ, and a coach at EliteU working with NFL combine prep athletes. Cody additionally owns SprintingWorkouts.com and the ATHLETE.X brand, where he runs educational content on speed and power training to a large audience.  He was an all-conference sprinter at Grand Canyon University, and continues to train and sprint competitively. I've had a lot of sprint and speed training shows as part of this podcast series.  Speed training is an important aspect of both track and field and team sport.  Additionally, the principles of training speed, pushing a human being to the limit of a skill they have been using their whole life, requires an integrative and thorough process, the principles of which can carry over to any athletic pursuit. For today's show, Cody shares insights on motor learning concepts in sprinting, the consequence of overemphasizing sprint motions or strength training, the role of longer, more metabolic sprinting on total speed development, ideas on “impulse” strength in the gym, and much more. Today's episode is brought to you by LILA Exogen Wearable Resistance, Lost Empire Herbs and Strength Coach Pro. For 15% off of Exogen Wearable resistance, follow this link to lilateam.com or use code: jfs2023 at checkout. For 15% off your Lost Empire Herbs order, head to lostempireherbs.com/justfly. To try Pine Pollen for FREE (just pay for shipping), head to: justflypinepollen.com. View more podcast episodes at the podcast homepage. Timestamps and Main Points 3:37 – Cody's athletic journey and how it has impacted him as a coach 9:36 – Questions Cody has asked in his own training journey that have helped him as a coach 16:47 – The type of sprinter that Cody is, and his learning about his own training response 24:41 – Why “over-projecting” in sprint acceleration can be a problem, and how that wasn't the most successful strategy for Cody 28:09 – Experimenting at the “poles” or extremes of a sport skill, in order to find a better middle point 32:24 – Rationale and context of various sprint drills and exercises, and how to connect technical movements with a higher intensity sprint 36:03 – Using longer sprints, and “more work” in the 15-40 second bracket of training to help one's overall speed and power abilities 47:33 – Principles on the maximal amount of longer running that Cody would put in a program 51:07 – How the mental and emotional elements of competition can enable better performance in longer sprints 59:59 – The “finisher” mentality in speed and power training and the complimentary impact of a metabolic element in a program 1:06:27 – A discussion on general and specific elements in the weight room for sprinting speed 1:15:41 – Over-pushing in sprinting, in light of the principle of “impulse” 1:17:19 – Cody's take on the “push” type cue Cody Bidlow Quotes “Something led to that (sprint) position, that might have been a timing issue, that might have been a posture issue” “For me, if I do a bunch of deep squatting, I get super slow, for some, it might make them faster” “I've leaned in more to trusting intuition, and not outsourcing to other people as to the right way to do it… you have to trust in your own ability, not just rely on a famous coach that said what to do” “In learning to become better at speed endurance I've had to learn things like, not forcing stride frequency but letting stride frequency occur, locking in my posture” “In acceleration, one thing that disrupted me for a long period of time, was purely focusing on projection, and the big shapes idea” “By finding (movement) extremes, it opens up your abilities and gets you out of stereotyped movements, and that's when progress stalls” “You aren't doing a drill because it's going to make you faster, you do a drill to work on one small feeling,

Keepin' it Arcadia
S6 #9 Arcadia High School WASC Visit

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 28, 2023 14:49


In this episode, Anvitha Marlapati interviews Ms. DuBerke, as she shares about a recent WASC visit at Arcadia High School, getting the inside scoop of what it is, the importance of WASC, and how it works!

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Keepin' it Arcadia
S6 #6 A Trip Down Memory Lane With Colorguard and AHS Teachers

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2023 19:05


In this episode, we speak to Arcadia High School's Colorguard Team about securing the title of “The Best Colorguard Team'' last month in the WBA Super Show– the cherry on top for an exceptional Fall Colorguard season. Additionally, we dive down memory lane with teachers Kevin Fox and Yumika Goto, exploring past memories from their unique lives.

Keepin' it Arcadia
S6 #5 Golf, Tennis, and Cross Country Accomplishments

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2022 25:51


In this episode, we talk to Arcadia High School's Girls Golf, Girls Tennis, and Boys Varsity Cross Country teams regarding their recent achievements! Girls Golf and Tennis alike did a phenomenal job this season, achieving the Pacific League Champions titles. Girls Golf additionally became CIF Division 1 Champions. We also hear from the Varsity Boy's Cross Country team and Girls Cross Country member, Reena Hsieh on their amazing seasons. 

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Keepin' it Arcadia
S6 #4 The French Exchange Program and Staff Appreciation Night 2022

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2022 45:34


Bonjour! In this episode, you will learn all about the French Exchange Program at Arcadia High School as well as the recent AUSD Staff Appreciation Night! Madame Vaughan, an AHS French teacher, elaborates on the uniqueness of the program and what it entails. We also talk to French students to hear about their experience in America and interview a host student and learn about what hosting a French student is like. Later, we explore the first Staff Appreciation Night coming back from the COVID-19 pandemic! We hear from several Arcadia Unified School District staff members, including Public Information Officer, Amber Nuuvali, and Chief Communications Officer, Ryan Foran, on how they organized the wonderful event!

Keepin' it Arcadia
S6 #2 Arcadia High School's New Clubs and Chartering Process

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2022 36:23


As displayed by the abundance of clubs that Arcadia High School is home to, it is evident that all students are given the opportunity to explore their interests and find their passions. In this episode, we interviewed the newly chartered clubs, gaining the opportunity to learn more about what they do and the story behind them. In addition, we sat down with Mr. Vo, the ASB Activities Director, to dive into the chartering process, as well as his thoughts on the new clubs!

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Herspiration Happy Hour
Herspiration Happy Hour, Season 5, Eps 26: You Are Perfect The Way You Are w/ Ra Harmon

Herspiration Happy Hour

Play Episode Play 60 sec Highlight Listen Later Sep 1, 2022 70:56


Hey, Herspiration Happy Hour fans! Did you tune in tonight, Aug 31, 2022, at 7 pm EST on our FB, YouTube, or Twitch channel for Season 5 Episode 26 LIVE? Our guest was Author Ra Harmon.Ra Harmon is from the Eastern Shore of Virginia and is the mother of four children and one fur baby. She is a member of the illustrious sisterhood of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated.During her early education, she attended Accomack County Public Schools and graduated from Arcadia High School. After graduating high school, I furthered my education - obtaining a Bachelor of Science in Rehabilitation Services from the University of Maryland Eastern Shore and a Master of Education with a focus in Elementary and Secondary School Counseling from Wilmington University. Currently, Harmon is a School Counselor, and she is in pursuit of obtaining a Doctorate in Applied Behavioral Analysis at The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. Connect with her on IG: @ra.harmonDon't forget you can be a part of the conversation during the show!!Connect with us on IG:@iamdpgurley@thegirlfriendtherapist@thebluephoenixhealsCatch up on past episodes on Apple Podcast, iHeartRadio, Pandora, Amazon Music, Spotify, Google Podcast, and many other platforms.#podcast, #season5, #empoweringwomen, #goaldiggers, #ladybosstribe, #inspiration, #womanceo, #empowerher, #savvybusinessowner, #womensupportingwomen, #thisgirlmeansbusiness, #motivation, #womenempowermentSupport the show

Shut Up and Listen: Small Town Stories
Shut Up and Listen: There's Something About Sarah

Shut Up and Listen: Small Town Stories

Play Episode Play 60 sec Highlight Listen Later Jun 1, 2022 24:59


https://linktr.ee/sulwithsarahandreneeOur Sarah is a Findlay, OH native and she graduated from Arcadia High School.  She majored in Psychology and minored in Sociology at the University of Georgia and then she earned her teaching certification from the University of Findlay. From teacher to lawyer to doctor to psychiatrist, Sarah has had interest in a variety of careers and she is good at so many things! Which is why she is such a dynamic professional in the Fostoria community where she helps small business leaders make a difference in their organizations through programs and partnerships.She's an older sister to brother Aaron, and a proud daughter to her Mom, Judy, and her Dad, Duane Richard “Dick” Stephens.Thanks for giving Sarah's small town story a listen! It's probably not too unlike your own.

Keepin' it Arcadia
S5 #11 The stories behind Arcadia's successful spring sports

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2022 36:09


After the numerous successes and championships of Arcadia High School's spring sports teams, Arcadia High was recently coined “TitleTown” by SGV/Whittier sportswriter, James Escarcega, on Twitter. Notably, all eight spring sports teams either won or placed second in their respective league divisions: Swim, Girls Softball, Track and Field, Badminton, Boys Volleyball, Boys Tennis, Boys Golf, and Boys Baseball. In this episode, we discovered each team's road to success, dived deeper into the five league title wins, and heard from Arcadia High's student-athletes about their feelings on securing these wins.

The Margaritas with Marguerita Cheng, CFP® Pro Show
Episode 56 — Margaritas with Marguerita Cheng, CFP® Pro: You’ll learn a lot from today’s guest — classroom teacher turned CFP® candidate, Melody Young

The Margaritas with Marguerita Cheng, CFP® Pro Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2022 19:28


April 15, 2022: A Note from Marguerita Cheng, CFP® Pro — I invite you to tune in for this week's episode of my podcast and video show, Margaritas with Marguerita, where for 15 minutes each Friday at 5:15 pm EST, we learn from industry experts how to flex our financial muscles live on Facebook.  Meet our guest: Melody Young, CFP® candidate Today's Topic: From classroom teacher to financial advice-r Rita asks Melody:  1. In the title for today's podcast you use financial advice-r emphasizing the word advice. Tell us about that. 2. You were a classroom teacher what are some resources available to those teaching financial literacy? 3. Tell us about the Certified Financial Education Instructor (CFEI) designation. 4. You're a career changer. What is FPA doing to support career changers? Scroll down for links to the resources and organizations that Melody knows will be helpful to other career changers!  About Melody Young: ​A candidate for CFP® Certification, Melody is the NexGen Chair for the San Gabriel Valley chapter of FPA, located in Los Angeles, CA. She is one of three national NexGen reps for OneFPA, focusing on career changers, and is also a member of NAPFA. Previously, she taught math at Arcadia High School and California State University in Los Angeles, where she obtained her Math degree. During Melody's 20-year tenure at Arcadia HS, she specialized in teaching the lower-level math courses, where the students need the best teaching strategies to train and often re-train their skills. These students demanded to know when they would ever need to use any of these skills in the “real world.” This is where her enthusiasm for math, sociology, and theatre resulted in some unorthodox teaching methods, and where she developed her warrior spirit. She made a point of creating teachable moments to showcase real applications of math including the cost (and benefit) of compound interest, the purpose of paying a security deposit, and the necessity of reading the fine print. Learn more here. Join us this and every Friday at 5 pm EST on Facebook Live: facebook.com/hopekatzgibbs Watch all of our episodes: www.MargueritaCheng.tv Resources from Melody Young:  Michael Kitces's article "Financial Advicer Manifesto:" https://www.kitces.com/financial-advicer-manifesto-values-difference-advisor-broker/ Jump$tart State Coalitions: https://www.jumpstart.org/who-we-are/states/ Jump$tart National Educator Conference: https://www.jumpstart.org/what-we-do/nec/ Next Gen Personal Finance Certification Courses: https://www.ngpf.org/certification-course/ National Financial Educators Council's certification programs: https://www.financialeducatorscouncil.org/financial-certifications/ Financial Planning Association's NexGen community: https://www.financialplanningassociation.org/networking/fpa-nexgen Connect with me on LinkedIn! Please add a note about how you found me: www.linkedin.com/in/ms-melody-young

Keepin' it Arcadia
S5 #9 Orchesis Spring Production, Arcadia High School's Black Student Union and EDI Committee

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2022 19:11


Wondering what Arcadia Orchesis Company's spring production theme is going to be, what it is like to be part of the Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion Commitee, and what it is like as a black student on campus? In this Keepin' it Arcadia episode, Wesley talked to two Orchesis officers about their upcoming performance. After that, Angelina spoke with Hannah Aguilar about the Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion (EDI) Committee at Arcadia High about what it is like to be in EDI. Lastly, Joshua McMahon, the president of Black Student Union, reflected on Black representation at Arcadia High.

Keepin' it Arcadia
S5 #7 Arcadia High Girls Varsity Soccer team's record breaking season, Arcadia Track and Field coach, and new compost bins

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2022 25:40


In this podcast, we first dive into the new track and field season and hear from Arcadia Track and Field coach about his approach towards this spring track season. Next, we introduce you to the evergreen club and its brand new compost bins at Arcadia High School. Finally, you will learn more about the Arcadia High Girls Varsity Soccer team's record-breaking season, as the players give you insight into how they overcame their struggles to get to their first CIF semi finals in more than a decade. 

Keepin' it Arcadia
S5 #3 Arcadia Shines Bright

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2021 22:59


In this episode, we talk to members of Arcadia High School's Band and Color guard about their recent performance at the Halftime show of the LA Chargers Game. Next, we feature an interview with Arcadia High's Varsity Girls Golf team, about their Pacific League-winning and Division 2 CIF champion title season.

Keepin' it Arcadia
S4 #11 The Inside Scoop into the 2021 Prom and a Holly Avenue Kindergarten Author

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2021 17:48


As Covid-19 restrictions and rules continue to change, Arcadia High School’s Prom Committee has made drastic changes to the 2021 Junior and Senior Prom. We spoke to Christina Xu, this year’s sophomore vice president and head of Prom Committee, about these changes and how prom will be like this year.    Next, we talk to Ndukaku, an adorable kindergartener at Holly Avenue Elementary School who has published three stories with the help of his dad that he’s created with his three-year-old brother Chiji. 

Keepin' it Arcadia
The Choosing and Creating of Classes at AHS

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2021 25:34


With the looming deadline of course selections, Claire Li and Chloe Wong spoke with Mr. Poon, one of the Arcadia High School counselors to clear up some of the common questions regarding course selections, explain how AHS chooses the classes they offer, as well as offer advice about choosing classes. Next, we talked to some AHS students, asking them the question: what class do you wish you could create at Arcadia High School? 

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Keepin' it Arcadia
S4 # 8 Behind the Scenes of the Return to School

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2021 28:46


With the Arcadia Unified School District (AUSD) transitioning to a hybrid school model, we took time to talk to a few members of the community--principals, teachers, and students--to understand the behind-the-scenes process of our reopening process.    First up, Arcadia High School’s principal, Ms. Dillman, discusses some of the factors behind the reopening process while also answering some questions about the school reopenings. Another AUSD principal, Mrs. Mattera, introduces the procedures that the elementary schools will follow, giving an inside scoop on the Highland Oaks hybrid model. Along with the school administration, current Arcadia High senior Conner Hua highlights the student viewpoint and how their opinions have impacted the school’s reopening process. Next, Mr. Vo, an AP Biology and Environmental Science teacher at Arcadia High, shares his perspective on the transition, shedding light on how the changes have impacted teachers. Finally, Apache News member Ethan Tran recaps APN’s return to in-person filming.   We hope you enjoy this podcast! Like, comment, and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Podbean for more content! Find our previous episodes at www.arcadiaunified.podbean.com.

Escaping Rock Bottom
From Teen Addict To Founder Of Treatment Center

Escaping Rock Bottom

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2021 45:31


Estil Wallace is the founder of Cornerstone Healing Center in Scottsdale, Arizona. Estil is a recovered addict. He started drinking beer and smoking when he was about 8 years old. By the age of 16, he was drinking daily. He didn't even graduate from Arcadia High School because he was a blackout drinker at age 17. How did he get his life on the right path? How did recovery lead him to life he never thought imaginable? This is a story of hope for those who are looking for ways to navigate out of their rock bottom.

1544 Miles to Omaha
Episode 37: Mike Parisi

1544 Miles to Omaha

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2021 58:23


Right handed pitcher Mike Parisi played for the Titans for three years during the 1992 through the 1994 seasons, playing for the legendary Augie Garrido all three years. Parisi arrived at Cal State Fullerton by way of Arcadia High School in the San Gabriel Valley.Drafted in the sixth round by the Florida Marlins in 1994, Parisi was named to two different All-American teams in 1994. Parisi's four shutouts in 1994 is tied with Kirk Saarloos for the most shutouts in a season along with leading the 1994 team with most strikeouts that season with 103 Ks.Parisi and Matt Wagner shared the 1994 team record for wins with both pitchers recording 12 Ws on the season. Parisi finished his three year career on the mound at Fullerton with a 26-8 record and a 3.47 ERA.Please subscribe to the show on whatever platform you are listening and share with family and friends. While there, please leave a 5 star rating and review. This helps other fans find the show more easily. ▶️ Visit our website: https://www.calstateomaha.com/▶️ Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CalStateOmaha▶️ Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/calstateomaha/▶️ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/calstateomaha/▶️ Follow Mike Parisi on Twitter: https://twitter.com/michael_parisi▶️ Suggest a guest: CalStateOmaha@Gmail.com

Principals of Success
18: Michele Lew: Social Emotional Supports for Staff, Students and Parents

Principals of Success

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2021 39:14


Today we chat with Michele Lew, an Assistant Principal at Arcadia High School in Arcadia, California and she has a passion for social-emotional supports. In our chat today, she shares her personal experiences that led her to lead with a focus on academics and wellness for all. You will also hear very specific strategies she's brought to her site for staff and students. For full show notes visit www.principalsofsuccess.com/18

KRCU's Almost Yesterday
Almost Yesterday: Arcadia High School Commended

KRCU's Almost Yesterday

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2020 1:59


It seems like Almost Yesterday that the Reverend J. C. Berryman , founder and Superintendent of Arcadia High School in Arcadia, Missouri, received a report from a committee of observers who had visited the school in order to submit an overall evaluation. The distinguished observers, J. M. Kelly; John Hadlee; James Relfe; and William Newberry, were so impressed with what they found that they wrote a letter to the Western Eagle newspaper in Cape Girardeau for wide distribution. Here the Arcadia students were commended for their achievement, depth of understanding, and promptness of response. The instructors were praised for their high qualifications and the extent of order and discipline of the students. The observers especially called attention to the high level of student proficiency in mathematics. The committee expressed pride in what they had observed, as they wrote that as southern Missourians, they looked upon the establishment of the school in Arcadia as one of the great events

The Joe Costello Show
Part 1 - A Conversation with Richard Maxwell

The Joe Costello Show

Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2020 76:35


Richard Maxwell has created and runs one of the most unique and inspiring creative musical arts and sciences program in the nation. For me, it reminds me of the entry level sound recording program I went through in college, only Richard's students get into the creative process early because of what he had the guts to create. This program happens in an area of the school campus where they have their own section of rooms that is their facility. It's made up of a larger classroom if you will that doubles as a performance room plus they have 15 Pro Tools stations and Pro Tools running in their A and B recording studios. They learn how to be expressive without fear of judgement, they write songs, they mutually assist and critique each others work in a helpful, loving way and it's magical to see what happens on a daily basis. Richard is a loving, caring person who, by his own efforts and fortitude, has created a platform where he can give the students, his very best in regards to guidance, ideas and processes.If you love music, talking about music, the process of making music, what music looks like in today's world, interested in how music could be handled in schools or always wondered how a single person can make a huge change in our education system, these episodes split into Part 1 and Part 2, are for you! Enjoy, share and spread the musical love. Richard Maxwell's Links: Richard's Website: https://sites.google.com/view/richardmaxwell CMAS Program: https://sites.google.com/view/arcadiacmas YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/RichardMaxwellMusic/videos Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.maxwell.3538 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rchrdmxwll/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/rchrdmxwll LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-maxwell-235ab513/ https://youtu.be/KPMuQNW9GL4 ********** Podcast Music By: Andy Galore, Album: "Out and About", Song: "Chicken & Scotch" 2014 Andy's Links: http://andygalore.com/ https://www.facebook.com/andygalorebass/ ********** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests. 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I'm glad you could come on the show. And as you know, I'm a huge fan and when I reached out, I figured, you know, while we're all in this COVID-19 thing, you aren't quite as busy as you usually are. So I'm glad Richard: Different Joe: I was able to Richard: And Joe: Get you in here. Richard: Different, busy? No, I'm I'm I am as I'm I'm as big of a fan of yours as you are always so kind to me as well. So Joe: I Richard: I think Joe: Appreciate Richard: A Joe: It. Richard: Mutual admiration society. But that's Joe: Awesome. Richard: A Joe: Yeah. Richard: That's a good thing. I'm flattered to be here. Joe: So I know just from my own personal experience with you that you are a multi instrumentalist because I know that you and I have a kinship with drums for sure. Richard: Yes, we do. Joe: But that's pretty much where my talent starts and stops. And then you go on to songwriting and playing guitar. And I'm sure you play the keys. Richard: Yeah, but. Joe: So. Richard: Yeah. But to be fair, your skill you have in, like your little finger in drums eclipses my entire rhythmic independence and abilities beyond belief. Joe: Now that you talk about being too kind, that's too kind. Right. Richard: Well, no. I mean, you are a masterful musician in your own right. Absolutely. Joe: Well, Richard: I am Joe: Thank you. Richard: A jack of all trades, master of none in some ways. But I think that I mean, for what it's worth, the multi instrumentalist thing is partially due to the control freak nature of my personality, I think. I've had time to analyze this over the years and some of that I'd like you know, I'd like to be able to sort of be like, yes, I love playing all these instruments and I do. But some of it is because somewhere along the line, it was hard to find people that I felt like I could say, hey, let's do it this way, you know, and some of that was because I was probably not probably I was really difficult to work with. I think myself. So I started just kind of trying to figure out ways to do it on my own. On the other hand, you do learn a lot when you explore other instruments. So there's a lot of instruments that I will pick up and play badly just for the sort of joy of seeing what it does. What's that? But I like that. I think I think I think musically, there's something about process for me. You know, I'm I'm at an age where, you know, there's a lot of "what ifs" in my life and in my career musically. So now, you know, it's interesting because, like, I think you're, you're in, you're at a point in your thirties where you like all of those things are sort of like, oh, man, if only I had. If only I had. And then, weirdly enough, you get to a point where you're like, wait a minute, I actually now this actually means like artistic freedom. Which has been fascinating for me, and I know we also want to talk about, you know, the program at the school and stuff, but it sort of relates to it like, like you start to realize, like sometimes that's actually more valuable. Like there's a ya know, there obviously we all want to be Springsteen or Taylor Swift or whoever is that, you know, that that A-list group. Of course. I mean, who wouldn't want Joe: Yeah. Richard: That lifestyle and and those opportunities and I think that anybody who says they don't, is probably not being entirely honest. On the other hand, you know, I remember, I've been biking through this COVID stuff as much as I can so I, I have one ear with a couple different podcasts that I listen to and when John Prine died, when and if you know who he was or Joe: Yeah, Richard: Not, is Joe: Absolutely. Richard: Really a brilliant songwriter. So there was this one podcast that was talking about him that had said something that just stuck with me. I was never a huge John Prine fan. I mean, I respected the guy, but they were saying how he looked at his career and at one point, the fact that he never had, like, that top 10 smash hit was a detriment. But then the music critic who, who's pretty, pretty brilliant guy, he goes, yeah, but on the other hand, when you talk to people about his entire catalog, everybody's like, yeah, but everything's brilliant and not having that hit, like, he wasn't identified by a particular sound or of particular time and he could always kind of do what he artistically wanted. I've become more fascinated by, by that than, than anything else. And I talk a lot about that with my students, you know, in their process to like, you know, that thing that you love is wonderful. But what's like, what's the step before and maybe what's the step after? And are you and frankly, are you allowed to even take it? You know, we get very critical of artists and what we see on TV and on, you know, any video and YouTube now and everything else, but sometimes I wonder, you know, man, it's that the pressure to sustain that, whatever that thing is for them. I don't know. I know it sounds weird to maybe people would say, oh, he's just copping out for whatever. I don't know if I'd want it at this point in my life. Joe: Yes Richard: You don't. I mean. Joe: That's funny because I've had the same conversation with myself. I totally in my heart and in my soul and to be truthful to myself, that's all I ever wanted. And then it took me until I don't think it was that long ago that I actually was able to look myself in the mirror and go, you just didn't put in the work. You didn't put in that extra thing to allow yourself to rise above to be noticed. It just, it didn't and I know that, you know, I just I just never went that last whatever it was Richard: Sure. Joe: To get Richard: But then, Joe: It done. Richard: On the other hand, you know that what's the cliche about, you know, one. One door opens and another and one closes and another opens. I mean, you just you know, I've come to realize that. That that. Things happen for a reason like, like, you know, along the lines of what you're talking about. So, like, I never took the risk to, like, go out to, I've been to L.A. enough times that I kind of have a love hate relationship with that city in some respect, I think, like everybody does. And places that nature in terms of the industry. But I never when I was in my early 20s, you know, I didn't do the stereotype I wanted to but the thing of it is, is that I know now, looking back, if I'm like you're saying, being truly honest with yourself, I'm truly honest with myself, I know for a fact that if I had gone out and done that, then, it wouldn't, I would have, I would have destroyed myself, probably like I wasn't going to hit it, like it wasn't going to happen then. It Joe: That's Richard: Just Joe: Interesting. Richard: It just wasn't I wasn't ready. Joe: The. Richard: I wasn't you know, I am a very slow process learner. It takes me a long time. I guess I'm not OK with it, you know? I mean, I'm sitting in this, you know, not to sound funny, but on the other hand, I'm this is everyday for me where I am right now. Like, Joe: Right. Richard: This is you know, I was I was in a position we were able to get a house built. And it's not like it's that fancy. And I'm not going to show you. I could show you what I'm looking at out my window. But like, if you saw like, there's just gear and stuff everywhere, it's a mess in the studio. But the fact that I'm able to sit in a studio every day, I have opportunities where I can make music on my own terms. You know, I'm thinking about everybody I grew up with and stuff like that, that's, that's not so bad. You know, I mean, I'm not like like taking a, like, sort of second place on that either, I mean, you know, I have I have friends, I have students who tour, former students who tour all over the world now. And I'm so proud of them. And it but it's brutal, I mean, it's just I mean, not even I'm not even talking about, like, the COVID stuff. I mean, just that lifestyle in general and trying to maintain that, I mean, it, it I did I did some of that, you know, like one hundred years ago. But, you know, it's I guess, I guess maybe I feel lucky we live in a time where I can feel fulfilled in some ways. Joe: Yeah, yeah, and it's so funny because I just the last guests that I had on it, we actually talked for two and a half hours and I won't do that to you. And it was I'm going to actually blame it on him because he's such a great storyteller. But I had Nate Morton on who is the drummer for The Voice, and him and I have become good friends over the past few years. And, you know, we went through his early childhood then, you know, going to engineering school, of all things, and quitting it because it was he knew it wasn't in his heart. Going to Berklee and then the connection that I'm making here was you talking about L.A., is he said that I knew I had to go where the gigs were of of the caliber that I wanted. I know I could have stayed in Boston, but I wanted to play on a hit TV show or I wanted to tour with the best of the best. And so he said, I just knew that that's the only move that I had with the two things that he he points out the two biggest things, decisions he's ever made in his life, even to this day was, number one, going to Berklee and number two, going to L.A. And without those combination of those two things, you wouldn't be where he is today. Richard: Sure, sure, Which Joe: So, Richard: Totally makes sense. Joe: Yeah. Richard: Which makes sense and for everybody, you know, and you've got to find your place in it. I don't know. Who knows? I mean, we're not that old. You never know. It's, I mean, to me, mean and the industry is different now. And there's, you know. I mean, because I work obviously I work with a lot of teenagers and a lot of 20 somethings and they're all and they're wonderful. But it is interesting how, like, you really can almost you can almost like feel the sort of like flash in the pan kind of vibe of whatever they're, they're currently into. Joe: Yeah. Richard: Which I don't see that as a criticism. I just mean, you know. Sometimes you, you know, I wonder, like, yhere are certain artists or certain bands and, you know, they used to get like, you know, the joke was like the oldies circuit kind of thing. But at the same time, you look at what those musicians are doing and there's something about the fact that they're that they're playing like, like I feel like that state, even with all the technology and I am a technology guy, let's not kid ourselves. Joe: Right. Richard: At the end of the day, it can't be about the technology. And I feel like there's something, you know, like. And I know they have all kinds of ups and downs with personnel and issues of personality. But like journey of all the, you know, sort of like stereotypical cliche kind of bands in a way. But it is interesting to me that decades on, when you see them play they're play like they're actually are playing Joe: All right. Richard: Late. And I think that's the right partially think that that's a big part of the reason I think that people go and see the Rolling Stones play. Because they're playing like like it's not tracks, it's not you don't you know, you don't go into their show going, well, they're going to produce it this way or produce it that way. And I don't think that has so much to do with age. I think that has to do with approach. I've become a big fan of all crazy things. I tell my students I always find this funny. I found myself a few years ago and I couldn't figure out what it was. At first I would I would be in here like in the studio and just kind of like I'd be doing like paperwork or like just whatever, like just I wasn't working on something, but I'd want happened in the background and I would find myself streaming from YouTube, live bluegrass. And I could not for the life of me, I don't like, I'm not like a country guy, I don't, what in the world is happening? You know, that's like my having, like, some sort of, like, long, weird dystopian out of body midlife musical crisis... Richard: I mean, like because I mean, I was, you know, my first musical love was classical and in prog rock. And then I got into rock and anything else. So like bluegrass is is just. We're, we're, we're moving on in a chain that was so bizarre and then I finally figured it out and it was because it was pure, like it's a bunch of guys and girls sitting with acoustic instruments, basically, and they have to play them. The instrument has to respond. You don't get the benefit of, you know, all the other stuff if you don't do it, it doesn't happen. And I have that has become incredibly compelling for me. And now so I've been spending years and I don't know if you want to get into this part of it or not. But I've been spending years trying to figure out a way to marry the two. How can you like my big thing right now is. How do you take like I love loopers, for example? The textures you can create. I really dislike the lack of in the moment control you have, though, with a looper, because once you do a loop, you're basically stuck with it. Joe: Right. Richard: You know, you can stop it. You can start it and sign. But in real time, I want to sit down like, like when you sit down behind a kit, you know, I want the high hat to respond as I'm playing it, not in some prefabricated way that I can no longer alter in any way. So I've been working on trying to figure out a way to play with all of the layers, but have them respond to me like I was sitting down behind the kit and doing it organically or at a piano or on a guitar or just, you know, a kazoo. I don't care what the instrument is but the idea that it responds immediately to me, that's a more interesting use of all of this. So anyway. Joe: What are you doing? Yeah. Not to go too far because we know, but it's interesting now, what are you doing to do that? Richard: So a lot of it has to do with um, figuring out ways to like, look what makes up the layer that you need. Do you know what I mean? So like like a loop for me, when I was like, you know, you there's there's people that are brilliant data. I mean, and that's the other thing, too. You know, you're you know, Ed Sheeran is a brilliant songwriter. He is gifted on so many levels and he's kind of perfected the looping thing. You know, Tash Sultana, I don't know who she is or not. Joe: I don't Richard: You should definitely look her up. She Joe: Work. Richard: Is. Oh, my gosh. She is about the most organic looper I've ever seen in my life to the point where you can tell that something glitched or made a mistake. And it's like she does it, it doesn't stop. She's so in the moment about the music she's making and it's it's just frickin' brilliant. It's unbelievable. But the point is, is that, you know, you start to look at all these textures and you start to see some commonalities. And then funny enough, I, I started looking at, well, what do I really need? Like like when when I when a singer songwriter starts a loop performance, a lot of times, you know, they start with like a drumbeat kind of thing, right? And, you know, they've got their acoustic guitar and they're doing all kinds of stuff. And there's not I mean, it's cool. But then it's like, well, what is that really about? You know? And so I had gotten really heavy into Mumford and Sons, of all things. And I'm watching Marcus Mumford, especially when it's just the four guys. Sorry, four guys [shows fingers]. And, you know, and the and he's doing you know, he's just got that kick drum and he's got that weird little pedal mechanism for the tambourine. But it's essentially he's doing all that momentum off of a kick drum. And because it's so well played organically, you can hear the rest of the drumkit, but you don't actually need it. I know for a fact that you in studio work because, you know, I've talked about this. You have a less is more kind of approach. You know, you don't have to you know, don't get me wrong, we're all fans of Neil Peart. I mean, Joe: Yes. Richard: You know, God rest his soul. The man was a genius on so many levels, but we're not gonna be able to pull that off. Like, I mean, he he could he could fill the space and you didn't go "Well, that was gratuitous." Joe: Yeah. Richard: You know, that's a I mean, you know, he's like he's not the only drummer. I think that could really get away with that consistently. Simon Phillips may be another one. But that's just and that's just just my opinion. But my point being, what I've basically been doing is I'm looking at the layers of what can you actually do and then essentially it's a variation on voice splitting. So if I take a tone and I branch it out and I noodle with it and essentially process it in a certain way, you don't necessarily know what it is that I'm playing from. But then it goes even further, and I promise we won't stay too long on this. But just because this is where my brain goes, Joe: That's right. Richard: Still, I had developed this hole and there's some video and stuff you can I mean, I'll send you some links and stuff of early, like prototypes of what I was doing and it's fun. But it's are real, first, I was a real pain to get a song prepped. Like the irony of the amount of time it would take me to get a song prep so that it could feel natural and organic was just like killing me. Like it, it became so creatively so, so I went back, I've gone back and I've read redressed it. And the crazy thing is, is so I started looking at instead of for the drum kit, I started looking at the relationship between the kick drum and the bass drum. And part of that was because at one point years ago, I had developed this really cool way to simulate what sounded like drums off of an acoustic guitar without having to play it as a loop like it was coming essentially off the strings, believe it or not. And it sounded really cool. And then I would do like some coffeehouse gigs or some, you know, whatever, some small shows and things, theater kind of gigs and stuff. And I realized that people like if they knew what I was doing, they'd be all over it. But just as a listener, it was like, oh yeah, he's got backing tracks. An I'm like, no wait, you've missed the whole point. And then I realize. And then. And then you like and I know, you know, you perform all the time. You can't really blame your audience if they if they don't get what you're doing, that's on you. You know, there's only so far you can go. Oh yeah. They didn't understand like Joe: Right. Richard: I mean, it's just, you Joe: Right. Richard: Know, you can't play that game successfully. I don't think anybody can. So I've gone back now and I've started to look at what really is required for momentum. And can I treat like for some reason, hearing a bass line off of a guitar? We'll make that jump. I'm still trying to figure out how far do I go with the actual percussion sounds and things, but that's also to me, part of it is I'm a big process guy. I come back to that all the time. This, to me is fascinating. I've been playing with this concept since before my oldest son was born. And I'm really, really freakin old. It's been a long time, Joe: No, Richard: But Joe: I Richard: I. Joe: Really friggin old. Richard: Fair enough... Joe: I Richard: Off. Joe: Don't. Richard: Fair enough, now you're not. And it's just a number anyway, Joe: Right. Richard: Even if you were. And even if I was. No. But seriously, you know, to me, it's the process. I think that. That's the fascinating part. I am reminded Mick Jagger has been asked how many times what you know, "How do you write a hit song?" And I love his response in certain in one interview. He's like, "I don't know and as soon as I figure it out, I'm probably done." Joe: Yeah, Richard: Like, I don't want to know Joe: Yeah, it's interesting. Richard: Why it looked like it. It kind of ruins the magic of it. Joe: Right. Richard: I think there's great merit in, you know, I think art in all of its forms. And for me, it's music is its own, kind of like its own living, breathing entity. And you communicate with it. And, you know, if you if it's if you're working with it collaboratively, it's there's some way, you know, these amazing things will happen. And if you piss it off, it's like it takes its toys and goes home and then you're stuck. And I don't know what to do anymore. I mean, that's but that's that's literally my my thing. Which maybe I don't like I said, I can talk for like I went two and a half hours. I can so beat that Joe. I have. Oh my gosh. I love Joe: So Richard: The sound of my own voice. Joe: That Richard: I'm not going do that. I won't do that to you. Joe: No. Richard: But I know what it's like about the program. Joe: Well, no but, but because we talked about a couple of things here, I'm just going to put. Just add my own two cents based on, you know, the whole looping thing for me. I also love and I'm enamored when I watch it done. The problem that I have when it's in a live situation and I deal with it with the people that, you know, my other persona is being the owner of Onstage Entertainment, right? So booking a lot of entertainment in here in both Arizona and Colorado. I, I have to ask some of them that, OK, I don't mind you looping, but you have to get into the song within the first, like, minute to loop the layer, you know, the layers. And there's I don't know, I don't loop I mean, I don't do it. So I don't, I can't tell them what to do and I can't feel their pain. But if you're going to do it, you got to be quick at it and you got to figure out how to get into the song quickly because people whose interest it just. Richard: Well, you're not wrong. I mean, that's the other thing. I mean, you know, mostly, you know, you do the looping thing and it's like the first time, the first song. That's really a two and a half minute song that takes you 12 minutes to perform. And the audience is like, okay, that was cool. Three songs in and I can tell you this from experience. Some of this is because I don't have the gift that certain people do for looping, which is probably why I gave up on looping in some respects, and now but now I mean, like again a door closes. This is so much more creatively interesting for me. But, you know, three or four songs in the audience is always like we've seen this trick before. We know. We know they. They don't know what's gonna happen specifically, but they kind of know where it's headed. And I think some of that's the lack of interaction in all honesty, I think that's why you see some people like, you know, time. But the looping thing I've I. The one thing that fascinates me about Ed Sheeran is genius level songwriter, brilliant performer. Albums sound nothing like the live show albums are basically a band. Then he goes out by himself, which is very fascinating to me, you know, but on the other hand, I kind of respect it because that kind of I absolutely respect it because to me that's using looping in an effective way, using technology in an effective way. But I'm with you. I, I can imagine, you know, that battle. You're right, people don't, but especially, you know, bars and clubs and stuff. There's Joe: Yeah. Richard: Only so they that you can go and. And again, I think one of the things I know I deal with this a lot with my students is, you know, there is a line that you have you have to accept the fact that if you're going to go off on those musical tangents, that may be incredibly invigorating for you personally, you have to be willing to accept the fact that, you know, you may not get all the gigs you want. You know, or you may not get the type of gig that you think you deserve because people are going to you know, if that's you know, if that's not what the listener wants, that's not what the listener wants. And then, then and then that needs to, but that has to be OK, too. I mean, I think, you know, I firmly believe it's kind of like there's two music industries in a way. There's the industry that we see on TV that, you know, is, you know, is is the big influencers and stuff. And the award shows and everything else. And God love him for it. I like I said, I would love to have their problems, but then there's all this other stuff, but isn't going to make it beyond, you know, it's going to play the smaller clubs and it's going to be in in more intimate settings. Richard: But that's OK, you know what I mean? Like, that's OK. And at least now that's when you and I were growing up. You know, we were we were still of the generation where if it did come on the radio, you didn't hear it. You know, or you had to really I mean, I can remember you would spend hours at a record store. Because you couldn't return it. You know, I mean, you really chose carefully, you know, those, those you know that 10 bucks or 20 bucks or whatever it happened to be, you know, before we really got into the whole Napster opens up streaming for us. You know, world. You know, it's a totally different thing in it's interesting talking to my students about that, because some of them... It's that they are still very careful and they'll tell me they're like, my time is valuable to me. And they'll stay, but, but there's still even with them, there's still a sense of acceptable risk. You know, for, whatever, 10 bucks a month or whatever you spend for whatever streaming platform. I mean, that's like, ya know, that's insane to me. Joe: Yeah, Richard: I mean, Joe: Yeah. Richard: That you can get pretty much every recording that exists for 10 bucks a month. Which Joe: Yeah, Richard: Then also Joe: It's. Richard: Begs the begs the question, is it worth being worried about signing the big record deal anyway? Because you're not gonna make any money for it anyway. Maybe just go make what your heart wants you to make artistically. You know, 50 percent of not much. OK, now you are getting that much in the first place. But. Joe: Yeah, yeah, and it's, it's for them, you know, for all of us these days with the streaming part of it, it's like drinking water through a firehose when it comes to the amount of content you can actually take in. Where you? Yeah, and you and I are talking. It's like, yeah. Go to the right. You know, you you mowed for lawns. You have ten bucks to go buy the one album that you've been waiting to get Richard: Exactly. Joe: In. Richard: Exactly, exactly. But Joe: Yeah. Richard: It made it so much more, you know, I cannot remember buying an album and not sitting down and listening to it, track for track, multiple times all the way through. Joe: Reading all the liner notes, Richard: Exactly. Joe: Knowing Richard: Exact. Joe: Everybody who played on it every yeah, Richard: Yep, yep, Joe: Yeah. Richard: Or like I can remember. I can't remember what album it was, but I can remember buying an album, taking it home to listen to and then we like I remember my parents were like, we have we have something to go to in like 20 minutes or something. And I can remember sitting there thinking, ok do I put on listen, like the first two tracks or do I wait till I get homesick and listen to the whole thing? And I waited. You know, because there was something about that experience. And even now I find myself, you know, fast forward and, you know, I mean, it just did it. It's I find myself with some of those bad habits a little bit that I wish I didn't, necessarily...but it is what it is. Joe: Yes. Well, and two other things you touched upon that I know you. You brought it up and it's something that I deal with. But I took a position a long time ago and I started Onstage, that I actually don't hire anyone that runs tracks. And I did it purely for the fact that I didn't want any musicians being put out of work on basically my watch for lack of a better term. Richard: Oh, that's awesome. Joe: So that's just the position I took. And I don't have anything, you know, like there's a like I had a corporate gig. So when I say that, it's really like the local type stuff. So I'm not going to, I'm not going to put a single guy in a resort and put a bass player and drummer out of work because he walks in with bass and drums on tracks and back and backup vocals. And, you know, these other people are sitting home and not working. But the caveat with that is if I there's a corporate band that I hired out of Montreal, Canada, who had amazing tracks that they had built from scratch for themselves. Now, the difference between them is that every single track that they had, there was literally an instrument onstage playing it. So all it was for was for the thickness of the sound. Richard: Sure, sure. Right. Joe: There was literally not one sound on those tracks that did not exist as a human being on the stage. Richard: Right. See, and I think that you're hitting on something to me that's really important, which is intent. Like, I think that gets lost in all of this because we're so we're so caught up in the spectacle. Or the site. You know, I was just at a wedding not too long ago for for one of my nephews and it was interesting because the band, the band was they were good. This is back in Ohio where I grew up, but it was lots of tracks. And it was interesting the way, you know, I'm sitting there picking the thing apart because that's where my head goes. But the rest of my family's just enjoying the sound. You know, almost to the point where, like I've seen deejay's lately, do a thing, oh, sorry, my son's come in and Joe: Hmm Richard: Interrupt Joe: Hmm, hmm, Richard: Here Joe: Hmm, Richard: For a second. Joe: That's Richard: We have Joe: Totally Richard: To Joe: Fine. Richard: Apologize. My apologies, Joe. Joe: No, Richard: That's Joe: It's all Richard: My Joe: Good. Richard: Ex, Gray. He's gone and he's gone in for your drumming job. Joe: All right, perfect. Richard: His no, but I think I'm, you know, like deejay's lately, you see them like they'll travel with a drummer. And I actually think that's a really good thing. You know, it's, it's, it is a little bit in the other direction, because I actually I respect that decision you've made and I actually I did not realize that that's awesome. And I think, I think the world of professional musicians would be better off if more of the owners of these companies, such as yourself, took a stance like you do. But on the other hand, you come from this as a player. So you have a you know, I think some of this is, you know, that battle. You know what that's, you understand on a different level. And nothing against promoters, managers and anybody else out there but a lot of them don't. Is my as a you know, they're well-meaning, but they don't you know, they don't get it. You know. Joe: Yeah, we've talked about this a lot. You know that the success of what happened with my booking agency is the fact that I take the position and I also have the business acumen part of it. So I'm kind of a hybrid in a way where I can understand what I have to deliver to the end client and how professional all of that has to be and at the same time, I have to put my self in the position of the performers or performer, either one. And that, you know, when it's really hot outside, they need shade and if it's too hot, it's just impossible to perform outside in Arizona. And yet, because we live in Arizona and it's the desert, you know what? It gets freaking cold in the wintertime. So, and the fact that other than a singer who then has to worry about catching some sort of cold or bronchitis or something, that all the musicians use their fingers and as soon as your fingers freeze up, the performance goes downhill and everyone's upset and it just doesn't make for a good... So in our contracts, it's very in-depth about, you know, needing shade and needing heaters in the winter and then if it's too hot or too cold, that has to be moved inside. And we, had ad nauseum, I could talk about all Richard: No, Joe: This, Richard: Of course. Joe: You know, circumstances, but that's the approach that I took. Richard: But it's interesting, too, because like as you're as you're describing all of us, I keep coming to the word legacy like like like your own sort of personal legacy and all of this like, you know, and I've known you now for years. So I kind of I feel like I, I. I can say this maybe with a little bit of insight, if you like. I know you to be like you need to be able to sleep at night like you don't like it. But that's important. Like, look, I know that, you know, some of that's just because you couldn't send somebody on a gig that you yourself wouldn't feel comfortable taking, which I think is important, because, again, I think, you know, again, I deal with a lot of younger musicians, you know, a lot of teenagers, lot of 20 somethings with, you know, with the the college stuff folks that I work with, too. And, you know, you do have to kind of be aware, you know, the pay to play thing that goes on a lot. I see a lot of younger musicians that get really excited over gonna get this gig at blah blah, blah, blah plays. That's awesome! Can you buy a ticket? Because we have to sell 200 of them Joe: Yeah, Richard: To get Joe: Yeah. Richard: The opening spot. I'm thinking to myself, I know I get it. I mean, I you know, I understand there are costs and everybody needs to be able to make a living and provide for themselves and their families. And I really do understand that. But it's, there's something off putting about like, like to me, I feel like art's disposable enough, like it's treated almost like a fast food meal sometimes that, that going into that world, I don't know. I just, I just feel like, you know, one of the things I'm always telling kids is, you know. To me and this is this has always been my approach, and if I ever decide that I want to get myself out of this studio environment here where I noodle around, which I might, you know, in my midlife extended crisis of who knows what the heck's going on right now. I actually had plans and then the COVID thing kind of hit. But that's a separate conversation, I suppose. But no, but to think about, you know. We look at gigs, I think, especially younger musicians, they look at gigs in this context of, I have to get the gig for the exposure and the, quote, "fame." But I also equally need the money from the gig, and I think that that's in some ways, the problem. Everybody's got to eat, everybody needs to. I get, I understand that. But I do think that when you can eliminate either one or the other from the equation, you actually give yourself more opportunities. Joe: Yeah, it's. Richard: You know, like if you can, you know, and now I realize I'm in a very unique situation. I could take a gig or not just for the joy of the gig. And then one of the reasons why I started to think about I should really start playing out again just for my own sense of self and to noodle around with this not looping looper thing, to be perfectly honest with you in front of people, was because I realized I don't really care if I make any money doing a gig. Of course, I would love to get some cash, you know, some money in my pocket for for for performing. But at the same time, it's like you priority, you know what what matters? And I think that that's part of it, you know, especially now, you know, because there isn't you know, it's really tough. As you know, being a gigging musician is really brutal and obviously right now it's basically impossible, Joe: All right. Richard: You know, with with the situation we're in. But I do think. Like, it's funny, like I've had a lot of conversations with a lot of my, my students about the fact that I know and just a lot of people in general. There are some you know, this is horrible right now. I mean, it just it is devastating the live music industry, which is like, what, eight billion dollars annually or something at a minimum is just devastated right now. And all of the ripple effect of it is, is just it's gutting. But I do think there is also some good possibly to come out of this. The number of people I talk to, younger people that are so excited at the notion of when I can go see another show, like the appreciation for it. You know, like when you're younger and like you can go to any show you want, anytime you want, basically because you've got all your income is basically disposable and, you know, whatever else or even if it's not but you can you can seriously prioritize it. You know, you not to worry about house and car and bubble on food. And I know some kids do, I'm, I'm speaking generalities, but just in general. Joe: Yeah. Richard: When that's been removed now. It is so interesting, the number of conversations I've had with kids that are like, WOW!, I'm just so appreciative of when I'll be able to do that again. Or, or the realization that that because we would we talk about it all the time and might within my classes, like, OK, you go to that show. I don't care what show it is. That person onstage, even if it's a soloist, isn't the only person involved in you seeing that show. They just aren't. There's no circumstance where it's just them. And you start to really now understand how it all changes, you know? You know, or not changes but how, I mean, it's gone right now, you know, and they're talking about 2021 before major tours happen again, major festivals and things like that. I want to get all the pressing and down on stuff. But but Joe: Oh, Richard: I think. But I mean, it's like you don't already know this. I'm sure you. Joe: I have. I have tickets to see the Doobie Brothers and the Eagles. Yeah. And and that the Eagles, I think, was supposed to happen in April. That's been delayed, I think, until October or December and you know, there's a good chance they're all going to be moved until 2021 to just Richard: Yeah, Joe: Me. Richard: It. Joe: No one's gonna want to go to a concert and sit, you know, six feet apart from the person they went with and sit, you know, have every other row with someone, it's just it would be weird Richard: Well, and Joe: Because. Richard: Not to even some more paranoid, but like I've been reading about different things about like I guess they did a study recently about that choir that had that rehearsal before anybody realized it was a pandemic. But then like 40 out of the 60 people that were in the choir wound up getting tested. They're testing positive. Joe: Oh, wow. Richard: And they you know, I mean, it's a horrible tragedy, I think like two or three of them passed away from it and the whole circumstance was awful and they were going off of all the information they had, which at the time was nothing. And I mean, the whole thing is a terrible tragedy. But out of that, they recreated the circumstances. They obviously didn't infect people again, but they started to look at how singing and things of that nature, what it does to the transmission of a disease, you know, of a virus of this nature and then you think about people that like an event where they're shouting or screaming or singing along and all this other stuff. And you just think to yourself, you know, how is this going to look? Joe: Yeah. Richard: You know what we know? I don't know. It's it's, a it's an interesting. If it wasn't so devastating to the to people that I personally know and just to the industry that I'm aware of and the ripple effects of all of that, it would be just fascinating. But instead, it's just I mean, it's just. Joe: Yes. Richard: It is really. It just makes me really sad and I'm really grateful, like I feel weird sitting in a studio talking to you right now because I feel like almost like I'm, I'm unintentionally flexing and I don't mean to be. It's just, you know. I never thought my life musically would be in a place where I could feel musically secure more than most musicians out there in the world. That is such a bizarre moment of clarity for me. I almost feel obligated to be making more music right now. Not because anybody needs to hear it or that it'll be any good, but almost because I feel like if I don't, I'm being incredibly selfish, that I have the option to do it and I'm not Joe: Right. Richard: Taking advantage of it. Joe: A. Richard: I feel like, you know. You can believe this, but I feel like I would just do like such an ass, like if Joe: Now I get it. Richard: I feel like, I feel like I believe in karma. And I just, I just feel like I have I have an obligation, especially I'm about to head into summer, which changes up my teaching obligations and my, you know, Joe: Yes. Richard: Obligations of that nature. And running the studios are going to be very different for the foreseeable future, at least. Joe: Yes. Richard: Wrote Joe: And it's then Richard: permanent excuse Joe: It's like, no, yeah. No. And I get it. And it's in a lot of our talent is struggling. You know, that that I personally know and had, had helped to get a fair amount of work that they, you know, at times where they don't have work and they're struggling just to put food on the table and pay their car payment, keep a roof over their head. They now are sort of forced into possibly going into debt to buy a webcam and a microphone and and learn, you know, some sort of software if need be, or if they just end up going live on Zoom or Facebook or any of the streaming platforms. But, you know, they're putting in there they're Venmo and PayPal handles as a virtual tip jar just to try to make any sort of money. Richard: Yeah, anything is Joe: And Richard: Anything. Joe: Yeah, Richard: Mm Joe: And Richard: Hmm. Joe: It's it's really tough. So, yeah, I keep brainstorming on ways to try to figure out a way to help. And I haven't come up with it yet. I but I'm working on it. It's not like I'm sitting here, I'm not you know, I'm lucky enough that I had a business where because at one point I was the seven day week musician, you know, I was playing, you remember, and Richard: I do. Joe: That's all I Richard: I Joe: Did Richard: Do. Yeah. Joe: Before. Richard: Yeah. You were impossible to get a hold of because it would always be like a message back, like dude I'll call you later, I'm on, I'm like, you know, 17 gigs today. Joe: Yeah, right. Yeah. But so I get it. Again, we go back to. I've I've lived it and I understand where it's all coming from. Now I just have to figure a way to help and so that's a struggle for me. But that's that's a whole like you said, it's a whole different conversation. And the one last piece that you touched upon that I don't want to forget is that in the conversation I had with Nate Morton, the drummer from The Voice, there's a connector in L.A. that you may or may not have heard of that that I knew when I wanted to, you know, possibly get a tour. A guy named Barry Squire and Barry is basically the music matchmaker out there. So if Cher is looking for a band, Barry will put out the notice that Cher is about to go on tour and they need this, this and this. Same thing with Pink or any of those, Barry was the guy to basically piece these bands together in L.A. for these big tours. Richard: Interesting, Joe: And Richard: I did. Joe: And so now the listing and Barry puts these listings up now on, on Facebook and it's obviously become a lot easier as part of the discussion I had with Nate, where it used to be, hey, you go to this executive's office and you pick up a C.D. or tape, you learn these three songs on it, you come to this studio/soundstage on the Saturday at 1:00, you play the songs and we'll let you know kind of thing. Now, Barry posts these things on Facebook and its he post the requirements. And, you know, everyone has to be pretty much for the most part, 25 or younger, you know, there's there's no none of these things that are going to take all these old dudes like us out on tour. Richard: Right. Joe: Her Richard: Right Joe: Or me Richard: Now, of course. Joe: Anyhow. Richard: No, no, no, no, no, I'm right there with you. I'm Joe: But Richard: With you. Joe: But the instead of it being the old style that you and I are used to, which is, you know, bass, drums, maybe two guitars, keys and a couple of back, backup singers or maybe a horn section. Now it's guitar, drums and a multi instrumentalist that knows Ableton. So it's, it's that and Barry and Nate were talking, they went to lunch a few weeks ago. They'll always be a drummer because the visual part of it, of of that makes it look like it's a band. So that that one seat, you know, thankfully, has not been necessary, eliminated as much as the others. But it's just so weird and Nate and I were talking was like, I mean, I know I, I don't know Ableton anywhere near that I could say I could do it to go get a gig and neither does Nate. But that's the state of things right now. And then, and then Nate's talking and he's like, and if the band becomes, you know, popular and there's more money in the budget, they don't turn around and then start adding bass and guitar and keys that they add more production, they add dancers, they are they whatever. It's just it's so weird to me. Richard: Well, yes, the idea of a show, it's different, you know. That's why, that's why it still comes back to me of this idea of playing. And I think that, I don't know, Like like, do you still sit down to play just for the joy of playing? Joe: I, I do here and there, but nowhere near as much as I should. Richard: Well, nobody ever does that as much as they should. Joe: Yeah. And it's like we Richard: But. Joe: Played a gig last Wednesday and we played out in the parking lot at an assisted living complex for Richard: Oh, Joe: The Richard: Cool. Joe: For the residents because these elderly people had not been out of this place for the last two months or whatever. Richard: Oh, Joe: They're Richard: My Joe: Just Richard: Gosh. Joe: Going stir crazy. Richard: Sure, Joe: So Richard: Sure. Joe: There was four different jazz combos and we were setup out in the parking lot where the people could come out on their balconies and Richard: Oh, Joe: We played to Richard: How Joe: Them. Richard: Cool. Joe: Yeah, it was fun and it was cool. And at the end, like all the guys in the band are like, God, I so misplaying, like I just the hell with practicing, I just want to play because there's that interaction on stage and anticipating where that that other player is going to next and just being able to interact and lock in with somebody. And because I left the gig going I really got to practice. And everybody's like, no, we're just gotta play, we just it's more fun just playing. So, Richard: Yeah, yeah, Joe: Yeah. Richard: And that's I think that I think there's something about that visceral live element. You know, Joe: Yeah. Richard: We it's funny when, when when, when the COVID shut down happened, it sort of sent obviously a lot of chaos into the whole educational system, especially into arts education, which regardless of titles and everything else, I am basically running an arts program. You know, call it what you want, but it's an arts program. And it's been it was interesting what wound up happening very much and that's why I truly thought I'm going to get all these kids that are just going to send me you know, here's this recording I worked on at home, here's this work and I've got a lot of those. I mean, that's. And it's great. But the lot of them, first of all, a lot of them, you know, you started to really see the demographic of the students and who had what available to them. Joe: Yeah, Richard: Lots of posturing and Joe: Yeah. Richard: In high school certainly about that and that's fine. But I don't begrudge because any we've distributed gear as much as possible in that. But it was, you know, was interesting how a lot of them really enjoyed the live streams we did more than anything else. So we wound up doing our big annual end of year concert anyway. But we did it online on Zoom. It was clunky we were subjected to all kinds of elements related to streaming and what mics they had and Wi-Fi connectivity and everything else and yet in the moment, the fact that it wasn't taped, that we, you know, like Joe: Yeah. Richard: I had some kids that played some sessions, that we just kind of watch the sessions on the screen, which was still cool and it was really awesome. I had one group that actually did go in and they pre-recorded their parts and filmed themselves while they did it and then we spliced it together into kind of like a live video and and whatnot. But most of it was a kid with their guitar, at the piano or whatever it happened to be singing. You know, in some cases it was just through their phone and imperfect, absolutely! But, it it had that kind of because you knew it was right then. And there wasn't a well, we're going to go back and fix it in post kind of option. It was interesting that, that, you know, you still got a little bit of that same charge. I mean, it was different because obviously you don't get the you know, you don't hear the applause in the same Joe: Yeah, Richard: Way that you're hopefully Joe: Yeah. Richard: Getting you know, there wasn't really production in terms of lights and stuff that we normally would do. But, you know, because I asked a lot of them, you know, should we be prerecording this and some of them are like, yeah, that would be better for me. But that was because of nervousness that they always have had inherently. You know, these are kids that don't like to get up on stage, even though they're wonderfully talented. They just may be, you know, at that age, they're, they're they get freaked out by it or whatever. But the vast majority wanted it live and in the moment, warts and all. And I found that to be very fascinating. Joe: Yeah, Richard: And Joe: That's cool. Richard: We wound up, you know. We did a tie. I think we did. I think we did like seven or eight live broadcast. We're still doing them. We've done a bunch of podcasts, but it's been interesting watching the students. Their response, and maybe it's not an entirely, like I'd like, I don't think that I can, I always look at my own students and I go, I probably shouldn't be lumping you in with every other teenager is like a generality because they tend to be a little bit of a unique and and if we're being honest, I probably do have a bit of an influence on their approach Joe: Right. Richard: In that regard. Joe: Yeah. Richard: Hopefully a good way. But I do think it's interesting, like what you're saying, that there's something about a live response, even if it's remote, even if it's from streaming, it still beats the just watching video. Joe: Yeah, Richard: There's something. And organic and visceral about it. Joe: Yep. Richard: Which is Joe: All Richard: Important. Joe: Right, well, you know, since we are now, you know, sort of talking about the graduation piece, I wanted to...so I always refer to it as CMAS and I think that's probably what most of you do. But it's Creative Musical Arts and Science program, correct? OK,  So this is happening at Arcadia High School here in, are we, this is considered Phoenix. You're right down the street from me, right? So it's Phoenix. Richard: Yes, well, I'm yeah. Joe: The border is. I don't know. Richard: Yeah, it's Scottsdale Unified School District, but it's technically in greater Phoenix we're like I want to say, what's 48 Street and Indian School and what is it? 56th is the line into Scottsdale. Joe: Ok. Richard: I don't actually know. I mean, I've been at that school for, gosh, 20 plus years, if you can believe that...long time. Joe: Yeah. Richard: I don't know. I was long before my time how they managed to carve out that section of, you know why it's Scottsdale and not in Phoenix Union, I don't know. Joe: All right. OK. So you just mentioned 20 some years ago, so when did you get to this school? Richard: Ok, so let me see. How do I explain this? 1990 or something so I'm at the U Of A Joe: Ok. Richard: I have finished my second master's degree in orchestral conducting, which I still miss, I, you know, if only for not having enough time in the day. Basically, I start working in Tucson at one of the high schools and a middle school, I've got an orchestra program that I love. I am always still for years and years and when I did it, I grew up in the Midwest. So as an undergrad and as a grad student and at different times and in different places, I was always gigging as a very mediocre drummer. I like to say I was, I was sort of the, the, would you want to call it? I brought the game down for everybody else, But um..but, you know, and so I done some touring, nothing, nothing fancy. So but I had done a lot of it, I loved the studio experience and also their stuff. But there was no at the time at least available to me, you only were really able to do that kind of independently and on your own. And there was very much this sense of, you know, we were we were talking before about two different music industries well, there were sort of like two different musical experiences. You had the experience you could have as a student. I mean, you know, you know, it was one thing and there were in it, it was great. I mean, don't get me wrong, I have such fond memories of growing up. And I still every now and then I am lucky enough, I guess. I've talked to my old high school band director a few times, he's long since retired. He drives trains now, of all things Joe: Wow. Richard: Which he just loves. Old, old military, retired guy, sweetheart of a guy, brilliant musician, far more, I didn't realize his musical chops. This is another problem I have like I hadn't like it takes me a while to realize something in the moment. Oh my gosh. The level of lost opportunity on my count two, like not tap into more of his experience as he came out of a military band experience but he had this incredibly open view of what music was for, even if he had a particular love of a certain style and what not. But I'm I've Joe: Wait, Richard: Got this. Joe: Before before you leave, that point is just amazing that you just said that because I look at you and go, God, if I only had a band teacher in high school like you. My teacher, and God rest his soul, I think I'm sure he's gone by now but I was just there doing it, collecting the paycheck, Richard: Sure, Joe: Going through the Richard: Sure. Joe: Motions. Just it was just the worst. And. Richard: And it can't. Yeah, I mean, I. I don't know, I can't speak to that. I mean, the educator in me says, you know, at a certain point you can it's very easy to get disenchanted if you get wrapped up in it and you never know. I mean, you know, the further back you go. People that I get asked all the time, you know, did you have something like CMAS when you were in high school or whatever? And I can't tell if they're sometimes I wonder if they're being sarcastic, if they've completely misjudged my age, if, you know, I don't even know where it's coming from. But, but the truth of the matter is, is that it's not a matter of if I did or not, it wasn't even an option. It just literally wasn't a possibility. I can't, I can't fault Pete Metzker was his name, is his name or Jeff Bieler or Bob Wagner. I literally remember all of these people...West Frickey. They were brilliant! They didn't, if they, if you would come to them and said, we have this idea and you described what I built with the CMAS Program, what I designed, honestly, I think they would have been like, OK, that's really cool! We can't, like we, if we could figure out how to do that in the architecture or the in, the in, the the infrastructure, if you will, of music education at the time, I really think they probably would have been like, OK, sure! Let's do it! I don't think it was an option. I mean, I really think that, you know, there's a prospective element. I'm not that old but it does remind me a little bit of what I have conversations with students about classical music, for example. And I always tell them the same thing. Richard: You know, you can't, you can't fault Beethoven or Mozart and say you don't like their music because there's no electric guitar. Because there wasn't even electricity at the time. You can't you know, you're missing the whole point. You don't think, like that can't be your thing. In the same way when I have students who are very, very much of a more and this is fine too, but we'll say a more traditional mindset. I'm like, you can't look at a kid who wants to do like turntables and say that's not a legitimate musical instrument. You do it, for the same exact reason because you've got to deal with intent, you just you just have to. And that's the thing that like I said, I look back on those that band director and those teachers, all of them throughout all of my school years, as it were. And Dave Vroman, I mean, I could list all these professors throughout, you know, college that some of which I'm still friends with, which is really wonderful too, you know. Sorry, I, I have to I have to namedrop Molly Slaughter, I don't have anyone to know who she is but just for me, I got to say it karma again, and there's lots of others. Greg Sanders, Steve Heineman I'm gonna shut up now, okay...Ed Kaiser God, we would be here for a long time, but, but all of them would tell you...but, but the thing of his you is the best musicians are about intention. You know, Springsteen walks up onstage with the E Street Band and it's unbelievable and then the band takes a break for a minute and he sits down with just as acoustic guitar and it's unbelievable. Joe: Yeah. Richard: And it's I mean, look, the guy's a genius. And I mean, that's you know, you don't need me to say that. But I think the reason it works in both settings is because of his musical intentions. Joe: Yeah. Richard: It comes out different, of course, it comes out differently when you have more people and you can interact. And again, we go back to that visceral thing, but it's about intent. And I think that's what I've carried with me from all of those people. Joe: Right. Richard: I go on in any case, so I go, I go to Bradley University and become their first music educator, excuse music composition and theory graduate ever out of that university. I don't, I don't know if that's like I have two distinctions being a Bradley, one is I'm the first person ever to receive that degree from that institution, which I'm very proud of and two, I was probably the most arrogant pain in the butt student that's ever been through there in the history of that university's music school. And it was a brilliant place, it was wonderful. They had an old Moog synthesizer, that had been installed by Robert Moog himself. Joe: Oh. Richard: But it unfortunately didn't work. If I could go back now...know, you, you know, you always say if you know, if I knew then what I know now. But they allowed you know, they bought some equipment. We had, you know, an old Mac computer and we were able to do some sequencing and learn some bit. And I just kind of got bit by the bug of it. I just found it so compelling and so interesting. Didn't know what I was doing, had a couple of microphones, couldn't even tell you what they were. Probably a 58, like a beat up condenser, by whom...You know, I want to say there was a, I don't know, I want to say it was like an old Rode or an AKG or something, but it was I mean, we you know, we didn't know what we were doing. But freedom to explore the process. I mean, again, in hindsight, I see all of us greatest gift possible. Graduate, don't know what I'm going to do. So the Youngstown's, I don't know if I'm gone too far back Joe: No, Richard: Or Joe: No, Richard: Not in the story. Joe: No, no, no. Richard: So I'm going to I go to university, so Youngstown State University. Partially out of desperation, partially out of you know, I didn't, I was wandering in sort of like the the desert of my own immaturity and unawareness, you know? I just, I just I had this thought in my head that I was gonna be the next Leonard Bernstein. Not realizing that basically even the next Leonard Bernstein wasn't going to be the next Leonard Bernstein because that world doesn't exist. And it wasn't like people were telling me that but it doesn't, I mean, it just doesn't exist. And and I didn't, I wasn't that guy. I mean, that's, you know, kind of like what you were talking about before, which I disagree with your assessment of your skill set but we can have that conversation off of air sometime. But no, but, but in all seriousness, I mean, you know but I wasn't that guy. I mean, that's just that's a reality, I wasn't that guy. But while I'm in Youngstown, Stephen Gage, who's another one of these sort of like ah ha moment people. I'd done a lit..I'd done some conducting. I even put together for my senior recital at Bradley, I put together my own sort of like mini orchestra of friends just for the heck of it. And I seem to remember Vroman, Dave Vroman, who was head of the music department, and that can be one of the main conductors there, I seem to remember him saying, you know, we could have like. Richard: To help you out with this, like you didn't have to, like, do it covertly here. He's a guy I really did not appreciate nearly as much as I should have at the time, brilliant man, just brilliant, wonderful guy. But anyway, he, um, so but so Steve Gage basically goes, you know, I need a, I, I've got an opportunity for graduate student. And he was the band conductor is like, but you'll also work a little bit with the orchestras as well. And you'll get to do you know, you'll get to conduct and I'll teach you how to and he was my first real conducting teacher that I took seriously. I had taken cond

Keepin' it Arcadia
S3 #15 Arcadia Online (and on TV)! (Pt. 2)

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2020 33:10


Despite the pandemic and the restrictions that quarantine brings onto Arcadia, our city is still making itself known, whether it be on national television or in the local community. (we bet that no one gets the AOL reference we put in). In this two-part special, we follow four individuals who have stepped up to the plate and broadcast Arcadia's talents out to the world. For part two, we got to talk to Andrew Ritiau and Frank Suñez. Ritiau, the youth ministry pastor at Arcadia Community Church (ACC), aided the transition from in-person church services to online services, and along the way, he coordinated some of the most amazing displays of faith online that Keepin' It Arcadia has ever seen. In his interview, he describes how ACC made the jump to online platforms and how it has impacted Christianity in the community. Meanwhile, Suñez has been leading Arcadia High School's news crew--Apache News (APN)--as its advisor through the pandemic by coordinating the continued release of weekly newscasts, and even pulling off an online gaming tournament! He goes in-depth on how APN adjusted to the school closure in the wake of the current quarantine and APN's future plans. And as always, SOCIALLY DISTANCE YOURSELF AND FOLLOW CDC GUIDELINES!!! Find our previous episodes here!

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The Brad Cesmat Show
Of Pro Sports – Who's Most Prepared To Re-Start, MLB All Or Nothing In AZ?, Arizona Varsity's Ralph & Chilly, 2020 Vision – Arcadia's Paxton Earl

The Brad Cesmat Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2020 39:12


Brad and Eric kick around which professional sport will be the best prepared to comeback post-COVID-19. The NBA is looking into a two-week “re-training camp” with a target date potentially late next month. Jeff Passan from ESPN believes MLB is all-in for Arizona and there is no feasible Plan B. Ralph & Chilly from ArizonaVarsity.com (19:40 on podcast) Skyped in to talk how COVID-19 is impacting recruiting, both positively and negatively, as well as if we're going to see high school football this fall. Arcadia High School running back Paxton Earl (32:26 on podcast) was Monday's “2020 Vision” guest. He discussed staying in shape during the quarantine, missing his final semester of high school and his decision to walk on to the University of San Diego next year.

Championship Vision
Episode 133: The Coaching Academy Series #1: Quarantine Workouts

Championship Vision

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2020 26:20


The following outstanding coaches and basketball trainers will provide you advice on what you can do with your players during this time of isolation. You will here from the following coaches: Remember "Isolation = Creation" Coach Kevin Furtado Head Varsity Girls Basketball Coach, Lake Oconee Academy, Greensboro, Georgia @Kevinfurtado Kevin.furtado@lakeoconeeacademy.org Coach Erick Willis Head Varsity Girls Basketball Coach, North Oconee High School, Watkinsville, Georgia @LadyTitansBall fwillis@oconeeschools.org Coach Joe Stasysyn Director of Unleashed Potential Carlisle, PA @Unleashed717 jstasand1@centurylink.net Coach Dick Rippee Head Boys Basketball Coach, Bentonville High School, Bentonville, Arkansas @WEAREBVILLE dick rrippee@bentonvillek12.org Coach Scott Berseth Assistant Girls Basketball Coach, Arcadia High School, Ironton, Missouri @ArcadiaGBB scott.berseth@gmail.com Coach Tom Halbmaier Head Varsity Girls Basketball Coach, Bentonville High School, Bentonville, Arkansas @Thalbmaier thalbmaier@bentonvillek12.org Coach Joe Lombard Head Varsity Girls Basketball Coach, Canyon High School, Canyon, Texas @CanyonAthDept joe.lombard@canyonisd.net Coach Rory Hamilton Head Varsity Girls Basketball Coach, Norman High School, Norman, Oklahoma @TwolvesHoops hamiltonr@norman.k12.ok.us Coach Mike Szydlowski Head Girls Basketball Coach, St. Francis School, mszydlo@sfsd.k12.wi.us Coach Roger DiCarlo Head Girls Basketball Coach, San Marcos High School, San Marcos, CA roger.dicarlo@smusd.org --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/kevin-furtado/support

Keepin' it Arcadia
S3 #12 A New Furry Friend, Sadies Theme Reveal, and Speech and Debate State Qualifiers!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2020 12:56


We begin this episode with Nina Wang and two Arcadia High School ASB members, Kaitlyn Tran and Megan Ngo, as they go over Sadies 2020! Sadies is hosted every two years at Arcadia High School and it gives a chance for the ladies to ask the gents to the dance.  Recently, Arcadia High School’s Speech and Debate team competed at the Speech and Debate State Qualifications at East Los Angeles College. Becky Chen interviews the Speech and Debate team members and coaches to discuss more about what happened! And of course, we cannot forget the new furry friend who was recently added as a member of the Arcadia City Police Department. Sofia Nagy interviews Officer Nick Cvetkovich about Kaiser, the new K-9 member, and the story of how Kaiser became Kaiser. Interview with ASB: 0:45 Interview with Speech and Debate: 2:33 Interview with Officer Nick: 7:35

Keepin' it Arcadia
S3 #7 Making A Movie With Amy Poehler & Chris Baugh!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 10, 2019 17:53


Fun fact: this episode is actually our 50th podcast episode of all time, so we brought you something really special! Recently, we had a movie called "Moxie" that was filmed in our very own Arcadia High School. The director of the movie is Amy Poehler, an actress, comedian, writer, and producer known for starring in the beloved series "Parks and Rec." We were able to interview her and the location manager of the movie, Chris Baugh, about "Moxie" and their exciting experiences! Enjoy! Apache Pow Wow article: https://theapachepowwow.net/10054/news/netflix-qa-amy-poehler/ APN Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBrW2K8XFQY Find our previous episodes here!  

Gruler Nation Podcast
Episode #73: The Art of Story Telling through Video Production with Carly Gilleland

Gruler Nation Podcast

Play Episode Play 46 sec Highlight Listen Later Nov 21, 2019 32:10 Transcription Available


Carly Gilleland fell in love with video production after she was introduced to film and editing at Arcadia High School (yes, here in Arizona!) Carly has always loved telling stories and after she realized the impact that media and videos can make on society she became passionate about contributing to the "media library" by producing feel- good stories. Carly grew up in Arizona and then moved to California to attend CSU Long Beach where she graduated with a degree in Film and a minor in Journalism and Marketing. Carly then moved back to Arizona and began to do freelance work for local businesses and her friends weddings. She finally launched The Good Vibe Media in 2017. The Good Vibe Media is a video production company that specializes in weddings, events, and brand videos. Carly prides herself and her team on being mostly female which provides a different perspective behind the lens and makes them stand out from other production companies. To learn more about Carly and The Good Vibe Media team visit their website at thegoodvibemedia.com or shoot them an email to inquire about your next event at hello@thegoodbivemedia.com and be sure to follow them on Facebook and IG @thegoodvibemedia Please Like, Subscribe, and Comment below! #videoproduction #stroytelling #video #media #film #editing #stories #feelgoodstories #goodvibes #vibes #TheGoodVibeMedia #weddings #events #branding #arizona #success #podcast #InspirationwithGrulerNation #inspire #gruler #inspiration #GrulerNation #GrulerNationPodcast #gnp #arizonapodcast #scottsdale #yesphx #phx The Gruler Nation Podcast is a show that focuses on conversations with interesting "Level 10" people passionate about changing the world with their work, relationships and ideas. The show is hosted by Robert Gruler, an attorney and founding partner of the R&R Law Group, a criminal defense law firm based in Scottsdale, Arizona focused on helping good people charged with crimes move forward with their lives. Interested in being on the show or have a guest recommendation? Email Robert directly at robert@rrlawaz.com or visit www.robgruler.com for more information. Support the show (https://www.ericshouse.org/donate/)

Championship Vision
Episode 103: Coach Scott Berseth (Arcadia High School Girls Basketball Consultant) Arcadia, WI (Part 1 The "Buzz" Defense series)

Championship Vision

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2019 57:17


Our family has been around athletics our entire life. My dad was an AD and principal for 25 years. He presided over 12 state championships and is in the Hall of Fame for football. My wife, my self and both brothers played in State Championships. The first basketball camp I went to as a 12 year old was coached by Dick Bennett (at the time head boys coach at Eau Claire Memorial HS) In my early 20’s I coached freshman girls in the Cloverbelt Conference at Fall Creek. I also scouted for Hall of Fame Coach Arnie Skrukrud as they won multiple state titles. Went College at UW Eau Claire, where I watched some of the best D3 College basketball coached by Dick Bennett, Ken Anderson and Bo Ryan. Next was Bloomer High School (Heart of the North Conference) where I coached lower levels. I left there and went to Chippewa Falls (Big Rivers) where Jeff Olson and I rebuilt program and started their youth program (Cardinal Flight). They are currently the dominant D1 program in our area now. I went back to Bloomer and Coached both my lower daughter’s lower level teams then the head varsity jobs in Girls Golf, Boys Golf and Girls basketball. I started their youth program (Momentum Basketball) when I was there. These last 4 years my daughter played 3 sports at the varsity level and I wanted to watch and not miss anything, I currently spend time with (2) teams (coached both this summer). Arcadia girls (Coulee Conference) and Thorp boys (Western Cloverbelt). Like most coaches in the state especially those on and around my age, we are heavily influenced by Dick Bennett and Bo Ryan. Coach Divilbiss are linked by a passion for basketball and love for the Buzz Defense. I am currently working on a parent handbook surrounding athletics. My plan is to speak to parents starting next fall. Much will be based on my experience as a coach but also plenty on my path as a parent. @scottberseth --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/kevin-furtado/support

Nathan Woo
Interview with Jack Sessions: Arcadia High School ATC

Nathan Woo

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2019 12:52


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Keepin' it Arcadia
S2 #29 Journalism Advice, Science Olympiad, and Hands Only CPR Training (feat. Matthew Ormseth, Kevin Tan, and Chief Chen Suen)

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2019 32:49


This episode starts with Jeffrey Lee's interview with Mr. Matthew Ormseth, an Arcadia High School and Cornell University graduate who now works at the LA Times, on his experiences in journalism. Next, Jeffrey talks to Kevin Tan, (our Harvard-bound valedictorian) and also the captain of Arcadia High School’s Science Olympiad, on what the team is all about. Last but not least, we have an interview with Chief Chen Suen, a Battalion Chief at the Arcadia Fire Department, on the upcoming Hands-Only CPR training sessions for the freshmen of Arcadia High School! Timestamps: Journalism Advice with Matthew Ormseth: 1:03 Science Olympiad with Kevin Tan: 16:06 Hands-Only CPR Training with Chief Chen Suen: 25:23 Find our previous episodes here! Find last year's episode on Science Olympiad here on Podbean or here for Spotify!

Keepin' it Arcadia
S2 #28 The Retired, The Hired, and The Fired Up (To Be Healthy)

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2019 15:30


This episode is about teachers! Podcast member Grace Lee interviews our beloved retiring Digital Photography teacher, Mr. Fujiwara. After that, podcast member Becky Chen interviews Ms. Hong, who used to teach at Foothills Middle School but is now in her first year at Arcadia High School, about her new experiences! Last but not least, podcast member (and varsity tennis player), Christina Yao, talks about why it's so difficult to eat healthy in today's society! Timestamps: Interview With Mr. Fujiwara: 0:53 New Experiences with Ms. Hong: 4:39 Healthy Eating: 7:06 Find our previous episodes here!

Keepin' it Arcadia
S2 #27 New Spring Preview, New Girl Scout Gold Award, New App!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2019 9:23


To wrap up this year's Spring Preview showcasing Arcadia High School's clubs, podcast member Kathy Liu interviews two middle schoolers and AHS's drum major, Carolyne Kim, about this experience at the event! Also, take a listen as podcast member Leila Nunez interviews Girl Scout Delaney Prater, who earned the Gold Award with her project Commit 2 Happy. Last but not least, Jeffrey Lee gives you the scoop on the new AHS Mobile app update coming soon! Timestamps: Spring Preview Reflection: 0:40 Commit 2 Happy: 4:07 AHS Mobile App Update: 7:36 Find our previous episodes here!

Keepin' it Arcadia
S2 #25 Triumph, Failure and Hope!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2019 12:31


Today, we have an interview with star athlete Emilie Sung about the annual Arcadia Invitational track meet. Next, podcast team member Christina Yao will discuss college rejections and how to deal with them in an interview with Aditya Bhawal. Last but not least, stay tuned as Becky Chen talks about the amazing Holocaust survivor Trudie Strobel, who visited our very own Arcadia High School! Enjoy! Timestamps: Arcadia Invitational Recap with Emilie: 0:46 How to Deal with College Rejections with Aditya: 1:47 Holocaust Survivor Guest Speakership Experience: 8:15 Find our previous episodes here!  

Wake Up Hollywood
Brian Nittayo

Wake Up Hollywood

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2019 55:00


Brian Nittayo grew up in Arcadia, California, a suburb 5 miles east of Pasadena. After graduating from Arcadia High School in 1996, he decided to study Hotel Management at Cal Poly Pomona to get a foothold on a budding interest. While in school, Brian was first drawn to the food business, working at an Outback Steakhouse for 5 years, but yearned for something more. Once he graduated from Cal Poly Pomona, Brian worked at one of the finest hotels in the country, the Ritz Carlton in Pasadena, California. The world would change tremendously, however, with the tragic events of 9/11 so Brian knew having a business of his own would someday be his greatest adventure. Brian's father, who was in retirement at the time, wanted to start a new business with Brian so the 2 of them opened a Cold Stone Creamery from 2002-2009, hoping that being a part of a well established franchise would teach them more about the food business. Brian's dad and he chose the location because they saw that it was in a busy strip mall with a lot of foot traffic. People working nearby and families frequented the area often for ice cream, but Brian's real passion was in pizza. He decided it was time to learn the craft from one of the best in the business so he traveled to San Francisco to study the art of Napolitano Pizza from 13 time world pizza champion, Tony Gemignani. Once he came back to his hometown, Brian knew it was time for him to open up his own pizza restaurant that was conceptually designed around New York's "pizza by the slice" dynamic. Thus, Rose City Pizza was born and opened in July of 2009, around the corner from their old ice cream shop and in the same shopping plaza. Brian saw an opportunity to open a pizza shop with slices as the focal point, but as a result, it has evolved a lot since then. They still offer slices but just for lunch these days because Rose City Pizza has become known for their whole pizza creations. Their Mexican fusion pizzas such as the Elote and Al Pastor have become some of the most popular pies on the menu. Brian decided to make unique pizza creations because he was tired of Rose City Pizza being compared to other local pizzerias that offered similar pies. Creating their signature menu has been a lot of fun and is always ever changing. Check out their latest dish, a Grilled Cheese Lasagna, along with Dog Friendly Pizzas as well as Game of Thrones inspired pizzas and wings. At Rose City Pizza, all of your pizza dreams can now become a reality! rosecitypizza.com facebook.com/RoseCityPizza instagram.com/rosecitypizza

Keepin' it Arcadia
S2 #22 Fingerpick Guitaring and Nick Jonas, Time Management 101, and the Apache Pow Wow!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2019 24:04


In this episode, we have interviews with 3 very exceptional Arcadia High School students, the first being guitarist Julia Noji, who was recently noticed by Nick Jonas on social media! Next up, we have ASB Junior class president Braden Wong dramatically telling his tips on time management. And last but not least, we have next year’s Apache Pow Wow newspaper editor in chief Brandon Chen and everything you need to know about Pow Wow! Timestamps: Guitar Playing with Julia Noji: 0:55 Time Management with Braden Wong: 5:00 Pow Wow with Brandon Chen: 19:12 Find our previous episodes here!

Keepin' it Arcadia
S2 #7 The Process of Creating a New Club, Recap of Cross Country Southern Section Prelims, and What It's Like Performing the in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Play!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2018 8:18


In this episode, we have podcast member Jarett Yip interviewing Sarah Wang, the president and founder of one of Arcadia High School’s newest clubs, Unity Through Poetry, on the journey to forming a new club. Then, new podcast team member Quinn Hettich will be interviewing Jacob Hsu, a varsity cross country runner, recapping what happened at the cross country CIF Southern Section prelims. Last but not least, podcast team member Leila Nunez interviews Kendall Power on what it's like to perform in the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Play. Find our previous episodes here!

Keepin' it Arcadia
S2 #5 The Speech and Debate Competition Experience and AHS's Varsity Water Polo Team's CIF First Round Victory!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2018 7:41


In this week's episode, podcast member Sarah Wang will interview Varsity Speech and Debate member Filbert Aung about the relatively recent Screaming Eagles Invite tournament our very own AHS Speech and Debate team competed in. Finally, host Jeffrey Lee will be interviewing Varsity water polo player Christian Lowe on Arcadia High School’s varsity water polo team’s victory against Chaparral High School just a few days ago. Find our previous episodes here!

Creativity In Music And Music Education
ep. 210 The Evolving Creative Process part 4

Creativity In Music And Music Education

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2018 35:42


part 4 of 5 How does a student's Creative process evolve?

Keepin' it Arcadia
S2 #2 Live Interviews with Staff and Students at the Staff Appreciation Game and Sit-down Interviews with ASB Historian Aaron Wu and Orchestra Member Charisse Liu!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2018 7:41


Season 2's second episode is filled with live interviews from our beloved staff and students at the Staff Appreciation Football Game. In addition, host Jeffrey Lee interviews ASB Historian Aaron Wu about the process that goes behind planning homecoming and prom, while podcast member Leila Nunez explores Arcadia High School's brand new talent show with Orchestra member Charisse Liu. Find our previous episodes here!

Creativity In Music And Music Education
ep. 202 When Artists Take A Break

Creativity In Music And Music Education

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2018 33:02


The good and bad of artists taking a break. From fan reaction to Creative rejuvenation, a discussion with some CMAS students about this and more on this episode.

Creativity In Music And Music Education
ep. 201 Let's get Started (again)

Creativity In Music And Music Education

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2018 36:34


It's a new school year and a new format for the podcast! This first episode features several new and returning CMAS students discussing the new year and more.

Keepin' it Arcadia
S1 #12 Interview with AHS Valedictorian, Favorite Classes, and Yanny vs. Laurel!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2018 5:56


In this week's episode, podcast host Jeffrey Lee interviews the amazing Arcadia High School valedictorian, Stella Cho, on her journey to becoming valedictorian, while various other podcast members talk about their favorite classes. Last but not least, podcast member Lulan Yu tackles one of the most pressing questions of our generation: is it Yanny, or Laurel?   Find our previous episodes here!

Keepin' it Arcadia
S1 #10 Sit-down Interview about AP Tests with Darius Jing, Update on the AHS Baseball Team, and Double Interview with the AHS App Development Team!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2018 17:35


This week, podcast member Lulan Yu interviews Yale-bound, straight A’s, track star, and amazing DCI member himself, Darius Jing, while host Jeffrey Lee provides a quick update on the AHS baseball team's continued success. Last but not least, podcast member Reiko Inoue interviews Seongwook Jang and Jessica Chou, two of the minds behind Arcadia High School’s new app!   Find our previous episodes here!

Keepin' it Arcadia
S1 #9 Sit-Down Interview with Orchesis Member, Podcasting 101, and Double Interview with Art Teachers!

Keepin' it Arcadia

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 25, 2018 10:24


In this week's episode, the host, Jeffrey Lee, interviews Scarlet Yang, and Orchesis member, to discover what Orchesis is all about, along with what dance means to her, while podcast team member Katie Wen shares her thoughts on the process of podcasting, and podcast team member Reiko Inoue interviews two Arcadia High School art teachers, Ms. Weaver, and Ms. Bradley, about the upcoming art show happening later this week.   Find our previous episodes here!

Life of the School Podcast: The Podcast for Biology Teachers

Clifford Nafrada is a science teacher at Arcadia High School in Phoenix, AZ. Clifford teacher Biology I, AP Biology, and Human Anatomy and Physiology. Clifford is a practitioner and advocate for active learning, including the Arcadia Students Working Actively with Technology, POGILs, Seminars instead of lectures, Standards Based Grading and Mastery Learning. Clifford is a regular and active participant in the National AP Biology Teachers Group on Facebook and is one of the moderators for the National Anatomy and Physiology Teachers Group on Facebook. Outside of the classroom Clifford also serves a the Arcadia High School wrestling coach.

CITIUS MAG Podcast with Chris Chavez
Ammar Moussa on his Mt. Rushmore of Colorado Buffaloes, his relationship with running and more

CITIUS MAG Podcast with Chris Chavez

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2017 36:57


Former Colorado Buffalo and two-time national champion Ammar Moussa recently chatted with the CITIUS MAG Podcast ahead of his blue jeans mile run at the Sir Walter Miler on Aug. 4. Ammar is one of the first contributors to come on-board with the site and he's developed a new kind of relationship with running since his competitive days on the track. He was a standout at Arcadia High School in California before heading to Boulder to run under Mark Wetmore. As a Buffalo, he won two national titles and finished fifth overall at the 2015 NCAA Cross Country National Championships. He's distanced himself from running a bit and now work in Washington D.C. with Rep. John Conyers Jr.  On the show, Ammar discusses his time running and training at Colorado, why anti-doping interests him as a topic to write about on the site and much more.  Colorado has a storied track and field history so Ammar tackles assembling a Mt. Rushmore of former Buffaloes. You can catch the latest episode of the podcast on iTunes so subscribe and leave a five-star review.

Creativity In Music And Music Education
ep13 - When Artists Go Solo

Creativity In Music And Music Education

Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2017 53:01


Chloe and Tin talk about when a member of a band goes solo and what that can do to the band

Creativity In Music And Music Education
ep8 - Jenny Madruga & Miles Coe

Creativity In Music And Music Education

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2016 52:10


Two more ASU Music Education Majors, and CMAS interns, join in on the conversation and talk CMAS as well bit about balancing life, Music Ed, and more

Creativity In Music And Music Education

A conversation with CMAS senior Camryn Lizik about her musical journey as a CMAS student