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Saeimā kaismīgas debates par Eiropas Padomes Konvenciju par vardarbības pret sievietēm un vardarbības ģimenē novēršanu un apkarošanu jeb tā saukto Stambulas konvenciju. Baltijas valstis ignorē EDSO ministru sanāksmi. Jaunais Rīgas teātris drīzumā varēs atgriezties savās mājās – Lāčplēša ielā 25. Pasaulē piemin un kritizē mūžībā aizgājušo Kisindžeru. Latvijas cerības tuvākajā laikā uzņmt ziemas olimpiskās spēles praktiski izgaisušas.

Borrowed this concept from Mr. Atomic Habits, James Clear himself. He dedicates a chapter in his book to how to develop and understand the 4 hormones related to happiness: Endorphins, Dopamine, Seratonin, and Oxytocin.This episode dives into the evolution behind each one, and how to cultivate more EDSO in your life for free!Come hang in my Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/teamjaim91Or connect with me on Instagram: instagram.com/jaim91

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Šodien dodamies uz Balkānu reģionu, kur apskatīsim Serbiju, kas varētu būt klausītajiem nedaudz zināmāka valsts. Bet arī par Serbiju ir daži mazāk zināmi fakti. Piemēram, pasaulē dārgākais siers nenāk no Šveices, Francijas vai Itālijas. Tas nākot no Serbijas un ir izgatavots no kazas un ēzeļa piena maisījuma. Sieru sauc par "Pule" un cena tam ir tūkstotis eiro kilogramā. Salīdzinājumam, valsts IKP uz vienu iedzīvotāju pēc pirktspējas paritātes ir 18 000 tūkstoši eiro, kas ir par apmēram 10 tūkstošiem eiro mazāk nekā Latvijai. Serbiem arī bija liela loma kosmosa izpētē. Precīzāk, pirmajā Mēness nosēšanās reizē. Lai gan viņi, iespējams, nesniedza finansiālu ieguldījumu, viņu ieguldījums bija darbaspēks. Trīs serbi piedalījās šajā projektā, kas bija pazīstams kā „Apollo”. Arī serbs vārdā Mihajlo Pipins ir viens no Nacionālās aeronautikas padomdevējas komitejas (NACA - mūsdienās NASA) dibinātājiem. Maz zināms, bet avenes, kas noteikti nenāk prātā domājot par Serbiju, ir viena no slavenākajām Serbijas eksporta tirgus pazīmēm. Tas tādēļ, ka Serbija ir viena no lielākajām aveņu eksportētājām pasaulē, tā veido aptuveni ceturto daļu no visas pasaules aveņu eksporta. Starp citu, 2012. gadā Serbija bija atbildīga par gandrīz 95% pasaules aveņu. Serbija ir ceturtā valsts pasaulē aveņu ražošanā tūlīt aiz Krievijas, Polijas un ASV. Vēl viena 6,9 miljonu iedzīvotāju lielas valsts netradicionālā iezīme ir tas, ka valstī tiek izmantoti divi alfabēti. Neskatoties uz to, ka pasaulē ir daudz valstu, kurās tiek izmantoti vairāki alfabēti, serbu valoda ir vienīgā Eiropas valoda, kurā runātāji pilnīgi brīvi pārvalda divus alfabētus. Valstī tiek izmantoti gan latīņu, gan kirilicas raksti. Runājot par Serbijas politiku, nevar nerunāt par Serbijas un Kosovas attiecībām. Ir pagājuši nedaudz vairāk nekā 20 gadi, kopš bijušās Dienvidslāvijas teritorijas viena no Eiropas vardarbīgākajiem konfliktiem, kurā gāja bojā vairāk nekā 13 tūkstošu cilvēku un bez pajumtes palika vairāk nekā miljons cilvēku. Tomēr vēl aizvien konflikts nav līdz galam atrisināts, un ik pa laikam saspīlējums atgriežas. Tā Serbija vēl aizvien uzskata Kosovu par savas teritorijas daļu. Kosova, savukārt, uzskata sevi par neatkarīgu valsti. Un valstis joprojām atrodas pretrunā. Karš tika izbeigts 1999. gada jūnijā un atbilstoši miera līgumā paredzētajam, Kosova nonāca ANO pārvaldībā. Lielākā daļa atlikušo etnisko serbu pameta provinci, savukārt aptuveni 1,5 miljoni iekšēji un ārēji pārvietoto kosoviešu atgriezās mājās. Neskatoties uz to, ka 2008. gadā Kosova pasludināja neatkarību, Serbija to joprojām nav atzinusi par neatkarīgu valsti, lai gan vairāk nekā 100 valstis to atzīst. Liela loma situācijas uzlabošanai ir bijusi arī Eiropas Savienībai (ES), kas ir vadījusi sarunas starp abām valstīm kopš 2011. gada, kuru rezultātā tika noslēgti vairāki tehniski nolīgumi, tostarp Briseles vienošanās, kuras mērķis bija normalizēt attiecības un integrēt serbu minoritāti Kosovas ziemeļos. Starp citu, abas valstis pieder arī Eiropas Komisijas  2018. gada publicētajam paplašināšanās plānam ar mērķi panākt iestāšanos Eiropas Savienībā sešām Rietumbalkānu valstīm: Albānijai, Bosnijai un Hercegovinai, Kosovai, Melnkalnei, Ziemeļmaķedonijai un Serbijai. Serbijas pievienošanās Eiropas Savienībai gan ir aktuāla kopš 2012. gada, kad tā kļuva par kandidātvalsti. Serbija oficiāli iesniedza pieteikumu dalībai Eiropas Savienībā 2009. gadā. Tomēr, tieši Kosovas konflikts bija lielākais šķērslis Serbijas pievienošanās ES. Serbijas valdība ir gan paziņojusi, ka Kosovas statusu nevajadzētu saistīt ar ES sarunām, tomēr zinot ES institūciju pozīciju un sarunu vadīšanu, tas negatīvi ietekmēja sarunas. Neskatoties uz to, bija paredzēts, ka Serbija pabeigs sarunas līdz 2024. gada beigām, ļaujot tai pievienoties Savienībai 2025. gadā. Tomēr, jaunais izaicinājums Ukrainas kara dēļ rada atkal zināmus šķēršļus valsts pievienošanas ceļam. Primāri tādēļ, ka valstij ir  ciešas attiecības ar  Krieviju. KB: Jāsaka, ka arī paši serbi vairs neizskatās pietiekoši apmierināti ar izvēlēto virzienu. Tā, pirmo reizi pēdējo divu desmitgadu laikā serbu skaits, kuri ir pret iestāšanos Eiropas Savienībā, ir lielāks nekā to, kas vēlas kļūt par dalībvalsti. Aptauja, ko veica Serbijas nacionālā aģentūra šī gada maija sākumā atklāja, ka 44% dalībnieku ir pret dalību ES, bet 35% ir par. Par to, kā serbi redz savu identitāti un kā tie sevi pozicionē attiecībās ar Krieviju Ukrainas karas dēļ, jautājām bijušai Saeimas Eiropas lietu komisijas priekšsēdētājai, EDSO misiju vadītājai (tostarp Serbijā), Stokholmas ekonomikas skolas Rīgā vieslektorei un starptautiskai konsultantei Lolitai Čigānei.

In dieser Podcastfolge geht es darum, wie deine Glückshormone dein Kompass zum Glück sind. Dein Körper stellt dir die Glückshormone bereit, um glücklich zu sein beziehungsweise zu werden. Die vier Hormone, die du dir mit der Abkürzung EDSO merken kannst, sind dafür besonders wichtig: Wie steigere ich Endorphine? Endorphine sind die sogenannten Schmerzhemmer. Sie sorgen in anstrengenden Situationen dafür, dass der Körper sich selbst schützt. Zum Beispiel werden Endorphine freigesetzt, wenn man in einer Gefahrensituation wegläuft. Der Körper müsste dir durch einen Schmerzimpuls eigentlich senden, dass du nicht so lange und schnell laufen kannst. Die Endorphine unterdrücken den Schmerz und du hast zusätzliche Kraftreserven. Mehr zu Endorphinen erfährst du hier. Wie fühle ich mehr Glückshormone durch Dopamin? Das Dopamin kann man auch als Fortschritthormon bezeichnen. Es wird freigesetzt, wenn man seinem Ziel näher kommt und hierbei Teilziele oder Etappen erreicht. Dies ist zum Beispiel beim Abhaken einer Einkaufs- oder To-Do-Liste der Fall. Bei jedem Erledigen einer Teilaufgabe kann man ein kurzes Glücksgefühl spüren. Es sorgt auch dafür, dass man weitermacht und sein größeres Ziel erreicht, wie zum Beispiel alle Teilschritte durchzuführen, um ein Acker zu bewirtschaften, um im weiteren Jahresverlauf Früchte ernten zu können. Da früher das Erreichen dieser Ziele deutlich schwieriger und seltener möglich war, wurde Dopamin dementsprechend selten ausgeschüttet. Heutzutage tritt die Dopaminausschüttung insbesondere durch die Medien deutlich häufiger auf, sodass man bereits von einer toxischen Wirkung sprechen kann. Es kann sogar dazu kommen, dass man von der Dopaminausschüttung abhängig wird und diese immer häufiger und intensiver durch zum Beispiel Handy- und Computerspiel aktivieren muss, um sich gut zu fühlen. Wie erhalte ich Glückshormone in Gruppen? Endorphine und Dopamin sind Hormone, die du selbst erzeugen kannst. Serotonin und Oxytocin hingegen sind Gruppenhormone, da für die Ausschüttung mehrere Personen benötigt werden. Serotonin Das Serotonin kann auch als Stolz-Hormone bezeichnet werden, da jeder Mensch darauf stolz sein kann und sollte, wenn er etwas erreicht hat. Zur Unterscheidung vom Dopamin benötigt man noch einen weiteren Menschen. Dieser signalisiert dir, dass er über deine Leistung dich wertschätzt oder bewundert. Du selbst bist nun dafür zuständig, diese Menschen durch deine Handlungen und Leistungen nicht zu enttäuschen. Oxytocin Das Bindungs- oder auch Verbindungshormon ist besonders bekannt durch die Geburt, da beim ersten Kennenlernen und Kuscheln von Mutter und Kind dieses besonders ausgeschüttet wird. Es sorgt dafür, dass sich das Neugeborene sicher und geschützt fühlt. Bei der Mutter löst es ein enges Bindungsgefühl aus, das dafür sorgt, dass sie ihr Baby beschützen will. Es ist dementsprechend überlebensnotwendig für den Säugling. Auch in anstrengenden Situationen sorgt das Oxytocin dafür, dass die Mutter ihre Kraftreserven aktiviert, um ihr Baby zu beschützen. Das Oxytocin im weiteren Sinne sorgt dafür, dass du ein Dazugehörigkeits- beziehungsweise Zusammengehörigkeitsgefühl mit anderen Menschen entwickelst. Zum Beispiel fehlt bei einer neu zusammengekommenen Gruppe noch jegliches Gefühl, dieses entwickelt sich jedoch mit der Zeit, sodass sich beispielweise am Ende eines Schuljahres die einzelnen Schüler zu einer Klassengemeinschaft zusammengefunden haben und bestenfalls zusammen produktiv arbeiten und miteinander harmonieren können. Schwierig am Oxytocin ist jedoch, dass es eine Zeit lang dauert, bis es sich aufgebaut hat und du dementsprechend dich nicht sofort in einer bestehenden Gruppe angenommen fühlst, sonderen erst einige Zeit auf zum Beispiel einer neuen Arbeitsstelle benötigst, um in der Gruppengemeinschaft anzukommen.   Warum gibt es Glückshormone? Alle vier Hormone haben den Sinn, dich glücklich zu machen und werden als Belohnung für eine...

Baltkrievijā tiesā žurnālistus un opozicionārus, tikmēr Lukašenko tiekas ar Putinu Sočos. Politiskā krīze Gruzijā. Arvien skaļāk aicina Rietumus dalīties ar vakcīnām pret Covid-19. Notikumus pasaulē komentē politologs, vēstures doktors Ojārs Skudra un Austrumeiropas politikas pētījumu centra pētniece, Rīgas Stradiņa universitātes doktorante Beāte Livdanska. Turīgie vakcinējas pirmie No līdz šim pieejamajām Covid-19 vakcīnu piegādēm 75% nonākuši desmit pasaules valstīs, kamēr 130 valstis nav saņēmušas vēl nevienu vakcīnas dozu. Tā 17. februārī notikušajā Apvienoto Nāciju Organizācijas Drošības padomes tiešsaistes sanāksmē paziņoja ANO ģenerālsekretārs Antonio Gutjerrešs. Ģenerālsekretārs nenosauca konkrēto desmit valstu sarakstu, taču ir skaidrs, ka tās pieder pie pasaules turīgākajām un ekonomiski jaudīgākajām valstīm. Vispārējā statistika pagājušās nedēļas beigās liecināja, ka rekords vakcinācijas tempu ziņā pieder Apvienotajiem Arābu emirātiem, kur vakcinēti jau apmēram 75% iedzīvotāju, seko Izraēla ar vairāk nekā 50%, Apvienotā Karaliste ar nepilniem 25% un Savienotās Valstis ar apmēram 16% vakcinēto iedzīvotāju. Pārējās pasaules valstīs, t.sk. Eiropas Savienībā, vakcinēto iedzīvotāju skaits nekur vēl nepārsniedz 10%. Šai neviendabīgajai ainai, protams, ir ne tikai sociālekonomiski iemesli, tomēr tā liek runāt par kārtējo globālās nevienlīdzības apliecinājumu, kad pandēmijas briesmu situācijā labākas izredzes savu iedzīvotāju pasargāšanai ir bagātākajām valstīm. „Šai kritiskajā brīdī vienlīdzība vakcīnu pieejamībā ir lielākais morālais pārbaudījums globālajai kopienai,” izteicās Gutjerrešs. Vienlīdzīgākas vakcīnu globālās sadales mehānisms būtu jāīsteno globālajai vakcīnu pieejamības iniciatīvai COVAX, kuru kopīgi izveidojušas Pasaules Veselības organizācija un globālā Vakcīnu alianse Gavi, taču pagaidām tās pūliņi bijuši acīmredzami nepietiekami, un Gutjerrešs aicinājis divdesmit pasaules attīstītākās valstis veidot šim mērķim īpašu rīcības komandu. Francijas prezidents Emanuels Makrons aicinājis Eiropas valstis un ASV novirzīt 5% vakcīnu piegāžu t.s. attīstības valstīm. Intervijā izdevumam The Economist Makrons nepārprotami uzsvēra jautājuma ģeopolitisko aspektu, respektīvi – Ķīnas un Krievijas īstenoto t.s. „vakcīnas diplomātiju”, izmantojot šajās valstīs izstrādāto vakcīnu piegādes Āfrikai, Latīņamerikai un citiem pasaules reģioniem kā globālās ietekmes instrumentu. Gruzija iekšpolitiskā spriedzē Otrdienas rītā Gruzijas galvaspilsētā Tbilisi notika vērienīga policijas akcija, specvienībai ar pacēlāja palīdzību caur jumta lūkām iekļūstot partijas Vienotā nacionālā kustība birojā un arestējot tās līderi Niku Meliju. Pie tam kārtības sargi ar asaru gāzes palīdzību izklīdināja kustības atbalstītājus, kuri mēģināja aizkavēt šo arestu. Vienotā nacionālā kustība ir galvenais Gruzijas opozīcijas spēks, un tās līderis 2019. gadā tika apsūdzēts nekārtību organizēšanā pēc tam, kad pūlis mēģināja ielauzties Gruzijas parlamenta ēkā. Daudzu gruzīnu sašutumu toreiz bija izraisījusi Krievijas domes pārstāvja, komunista Sergeja Gavrilova vizīte Tbilisi, cita starpā uzrunājot Starpparlamentārās pareizticības asamblejas tikšanās dalībniekus no Gruzijas parlamenta priekšsēdētāja vietas. Melia tika atbrīvots pret drošības naudu, taču nesen tās apmērs tika palielināts, un šo lielāko summu maksāt viņš atteicās. Tiesas pielemto arestu uz vairākām dienām aizkavēja līdzšinējā Gruzijas premjerministra Georgija Gaharijas demisija 18. februārī. Tās iemesls bija tieši iespējamais opozīcijas līdera arests, kas var izraisīt jaunu spriedzes eskalācijas loku valdošās partijas „Gruzijas sapnis” un opozīcijas starpā. Savukārt jaunais premjers Iraklijs Garibašvili, kurš stājās amatā pirmdien, apņēmīgi īstenoja tiesas lēmumu. Ieilgušas iekšpolitiskas krīzes situācijā Gruzija dzīvo jau kopš parlamenta vēlēšanām, kuru divas kārtas notika pagājušā gada oktobrī un novembrī. Saskaņā ar oficiālajiem rezultātiem vēlēšanās uzvarēja arī līdz tam valdošā partija „Gruzijas sapnis”, iegūstot 90 no 150 deputātu vietām. Taču opozīcijas partijas, vairums no kurām pirms vēlēšanām apvienojās sarakstā „Vienotībā ir spēks”, vaino valdošo partiju vēlēšanu viltojumos un boikotē parlamenta darbu. Līdz ar to, kā savā komentārā izsakās raidsabiedrība BBC, Gruzija šobrīd faktiski ir vienpartijas valsts. Novērotāji no EDSO pēc vēlēšanām izteikušies, ka tajās bijis vērojams spiediens uz vēlētājiem un administratīvā resursa izmantošana valdošās partijas labā, taču šie pārkāpumi neesot tik plaši, lai atzītu vēlēšanas par nebrīvām vai negodīgām. Lukašenko darbina „krimināllietu konveijeru” Ar brutālu spēku un vajāšanām prezidenta Aleksandra Lukašenko režīmam pēdējos mēnešos izdevies pieslāpēt protestu kustību Baltkrievijā, tomēr ne pilnīgi to likvidēt. Kā situāciju pēc mazskaitlīgiem protestiem pagājušo svētdien raksturoja „Radio Brīvība”, jaunākus ļaudis no ielām izdevies aizbiedēt, un tagad protestējot pamatā pensionāri, kuri savulaik tika uzskatīti par drošāko Lukašenko varas balstu. Pagājušonedēļ visā valstī notika kratīšanu vilnis, izmeklētājiem ierodoties preses izdevumu un cilvēktiesību aizstāvības organizāciju birojos, kā arī atsevišķu žurnālistu, cilvēktiesību un neatkarīgo arodbiedrību aktīvistu dzīvesvietās. Plašāki aresti gan vēl nav notikuši. Tikām notiek līdzšinējos protestos aizturēto tiesāšana. Kā izsakās neatkarīgā telekanāla Belsat direktors Aleksejs Dzikavinskis, tas ir īsts krimināllietu konveijers – šobrīd valstī notiek apmēram tūkstotis šādu procesu. Vienā no tiem divām Belsat žurnālistēm piespriesti divi gadi cietumā par tiešsaistes reportāžu no režīma atbalstītāju nogalinātā Romāna Bondarenko piemiņas akcijas. Žurnālistes, kuru darbības visnotaļ atbilst viņu profesionālajam statusam, notiesātas „sabiedrisko kārtību rupji pārkāpjošu masu pasākumu organizēšanā”. Šāda apsūdzība šobrīd Baltkrievijā ir standarts piesauktajā „krimināllietu konveijerā”, un vispār vēršanās pret preses pārstāvjiem kļuvusi par spilgtu Lukašenko režīma represiju iezīmi, un organizācijas „Reportieri bez robežām” vērtējumā Baltkrievija ir šobrīd žurnālistu darbam visbīstamākā valsts Eiropā. Tikām pirmdien Krievijas un Baltkrievijas vadoņi Putins un Lukašenko sastapās Melnās jūras kūrortpilsētā Soči, pusotru stundu apspriedās, pēc kam kopīgi slēpoja un braukāja ar sniega motocikliem. Oficiāli abu tikšanās saturs bija saistīts ar sadarbību pandēmijas apkarošanas un ekonomisko sakaru aktivizēšanas jomā, taču tiek spekulēts par to, ka Baltkrievijas autokrāts varētu būt lūdzis vēl kādu aizdevumu no lielās kaimiņvalsts. Sagatavoja Eduards Liniņš

ENDORPHINS - THE FEEL GOOD PAIN RELIEVER DOPAMINE - THE REWARDER SERATONIN - THE MOOD RAISER OXYTOCIN - THE SERVER

Endorfine. Dopamină. Serotonină. Oxitocină. - EDSO. --------------------------------------------------- Mintea umană este extraordinară și complexă din foarte multe puncte de vedere. Aici aveți explicația antropologică pentru care: oamenii sunt făcuți pentru anduranță, pentru a se auto-motiva, pentru a conduce sau a respecta conducătorii care îi respectă, dar și explicația pentru care alegem oamenii care să ne înconjoare. Contextele sunt puse în discuție de la un anumit „Johnny Bravo” care alege să își riște viața pentru a-și salva camarazii. --------------------------------------------------- Acest audio este o interpretare în limba română a acestui videoclip al lui Simon Sinek de la „99U”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReRcHdeUG9Y --------------------------------------------------- Mă găsiți pe instagram la: https://www.instagram.com/alex.do.it/ Mă găsiți pe YouTube la: https://www.youtube.com/GogGamesEurope --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/alex-do-it/message

What part do the essential brain chemicals EDSO, endorphins, dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin play in building a happy life? We delve into the book Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek in this week's Tuesday episode. Care for yourself and the other members of your tribe are both essential! You create your life. We are teaching you to create your life on purpose. Happiness and Freedom are your birthright! Watch or listen to past episodes of The How To Choose Happiness and Freedom Show on the Be Happy First Website. https://www.behappyfirst.org/showLearn the 5 Secrets to Being Happy and Free here! https://www.behappyfirst.org/journalplaybookI love you and I'm so glad you're here! Be sure to subscribe to this channel, "like and follow" the Be Happy First Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/behappyfirst/Join our PRIVATE Facebook Group Be Happy First Together for deeper conversations and support. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1252277614898225/Welcome to the Be Happy First Tribe! Remember, Happiness is a Choice! You can always choose to Be Happy First! 

What is buyer intent data and how are marketers using content-level buyer intent data to get incredible inbound marketing results? This week on The Inbound Success Podcast, Intentdata.io Chief Revenue Officer Ed Marsh breaks down the topic of buyer intent data, and specifically talks about how contact-level buyer intent data works, and how marketers can use it to get better marketing and sales results. Highlights from my conversation with Ed include: Ed defines intent data as "the collection of signals that indicate that somebody may be in market ready to buy your product or service." While it is a relatively new term, we all have intent data available to us. There are three kinds of intent data. First party data is what we have through the analytics software we use (ex. HubSpot). Second party comes from companies that sell data they gather through their own platforms. Third party data is collected from throughout the internet. Most intent data providers give you company-level data. Intentdata.io provides contact-level data which specifies exactly which individuals are taking high intent actions and what their contact information is. Company-level data can be used by sales teams to determine which accounts to target, whereas contact-level data can be used to create highly targeted marketing campaigns. With Google banning third party cookies, many intent data providers (particularly those who offer second-party data, will no longer be able to offer their data. One way to use intent data is in paid ad campaigns, and specifically for the creation of custom audiences. Another way is to trigger targeted email marketing drip campaigns or sales outreach sequences. Regardless of how you're using the data, the key is to have a way to unify all of that information and clean it up so it can be used correctly in your campaigns. That is where having some sort of customer data platform (CDP) can be useful. Ed says that the best way to get started with intent data is to focus on existing customers (for upsells and cross sells) and then on opportunities already in the pipeline, to see if you can close them faster.  Resources from this episode: Visit the intentdata.io website Email Ed at ed@intentdata.io Listen to the podcast to learn more about contact-level buyer intent data and how you can begin to use it now to get better marketing and sales results. Transcript Kathleen Booth (Host): Welcome back to the Inbound Success Podcast. I'm your host, Kathleen Booth, and this week my guest is Ed Marsh who is the chief revenue officer of intentdata.io. Welcome, Ed. Ed Marsh (Guest): Thank you very much, Kathleen. Great to be back with you. Kathleen: You’re one of the very, very few people who has been on this podcast twice. Ed: Well, it's a pleasure and an honor. Kathleen: It's less than five. I don't know the exact number, but it's definitely less than five. It's a small and exclusive club. Ed: As successful as your podcast has been, you're north of 100 episodes now, right? Kathleen: Oh yeah, it's like ... I think I'm around 130+ episodes. Ed: That's really neat. Kathleen: I have surprised myself. Yeah, it's great. I feel like now I'm one of those people who's competitive enough with my own self that now I can't stop. Ed: Both ... Kathleen: It's great. No, I'm excited to have to back, and you are back here really representing a completely different company, intentdata.io, which I don't think existed. Either that or it was like the kernel of a company when we first spoke, the first time I interviewed you. Ed: Right. About Ed Marsh and Intentdata.io Kathleen: Let's start with kind of a re-introduction to my audience. For those who either didn't hear you the first time around or heard you the first time around but aren't familiar with what you're working on now, could you talk a little bit about who you are, what you do, and what intentdata.io is? Ed: Sure, absolutely. We know each other, obviously, from the HubSpot community, the Inbound community, and have been kind of colleagues as agencies in that world for a number of years. In the context that we originally spoke, I was really working in that agency role but not as an agency consulting for middle market industrial manufacturers. But of course in the context of all of this inbound marketing work, inbound has evolved. It's not a binary world where outbound is evil like they used to say. No, the marketing takes all of these pieces. It takes inbound, it takes outbound, it takes paid, it takes great sales enablement, it takes all this stuff rolled together. And one of the pieces that I began to roll into it several years ago was intent data, and it was very immature at the time. It's evolved quite a bit, but it's really through the realization that marketing needs to be approached holistically for most businesses in this hyper-competitive, hyper-content saturated world that we're in, every company needs every tool, and they need to use it really effectively and intelligently both strategically and tactically. So against that background, I began working with a classmate of mine, actually from our mutual alma mater from Johns Hopkins that had worked on substantially developing and improving an algorithm for a very different approach to intent data than much of what was out there. Through that work I then began selling it and experimenting with it, and it's been substantially refined over the last several years. That algorithm is at the core of the intentdata.io business, and we've also incorporated some other elements like platform CDP in order to help companies fully exploit their full data stack and other stuff. That's kind of how I got to where I am today and why we're talking in this role. What is buyer intent data? Kathleen: That's so cool. I suspect that while most listeners of the podcast are pretty advanced, intent data's still a pretty new topic. I don't want to assume anything, and therefore can you just start by two to three sentences, I know this is going to be tough, can you explain what intent data is? Not necessarily what you guys do but what intent data is. Ed: Sure. So what's really interesting about intent data is that most companies already have it and they don't realize it. Because there's this new term that we've put on it. Intent data is the collection of signals that indicate that somebody may be in market ready to buy your product or service. So that could be visiting with you at an event or a trade show. It could be agreeing to have a meeting with you. In the common lexicon or parlance, it often is online activities like engaging with content, engaging with a competitor, social follows, and stuff like that. How intentdata.io is different Kathleen: Great. And there are a whole host of companies that have sprung up really in the last, I would say, two years that are calling themselves intent data companies. You mentioned that your algorithm and your approach is a little bit different. Can you explain what you mean by that? Ed: Sure. There's a broad spectrum of companies that say intent data, some of which are really static databases. Some are visitor identification. So if an unknown visitor comes to your site, you can use reverse IP lookup to figure out what the company is. Some are selling account level data that's sourced through different means including DSP or bid stream data from programmatic advertising. Some through publishing co-ops. There's first party data which is what companies have themselves that you collect through HubSpot. Second party data is like TechTarget sell which is based on their own publishing platform. And third party data, which is collected, supposedly or theoretically, everywhere else on the internet, although it's often from a small collection of sites. Kathleen: Now, I have a lot of questions. So in your case, what makes intentdata.io special, different, unique? Ed: So intentdata.io intent data is contact level intent data which is quite unique. There's a lot of companies out there that sell account level data. In other words, we can't tell you who the person is. We just can tell you there's been a bunch of people from IBM that are taking such-and-such a kind of action. There are companies that take account level data and then append to it their best guess of who the contacts might be based on who you tell them you'd love to talk to. You know, if you want to sell to CMOs and they see somebody that meets your ideal customer profile from a firmographic perspective taking action, then guess what? They're going to append the CMO's name, and you're going to get all excited, and you're going to think, "This is exactly what I want." What we do is we actually tell you who the person was that was taking action, and we give you their contact details, and we give you contextual information around the action they took. So not just engagement with some kind of an opaque topic, the taxonomy of which is completely mysterious, but rather we say, "They took action with an article online that had, at its core, this key term that we know is important to you." And because of that, then you can gauge where people are in the buying journey, the problem they're trying to solve, the outcome they're trying to achieve that competitors are talking to. You pair that with the information embedded in the job title like seniority and function with the firmographic details, and suddenly you have this really rich understanding of what's going on for the individual. And then of course when there's multiple people from the same company for the account and for that 10.2 person buying team that challenger talks about. Kathleen: Yeah, you're hitting on something that I think is really interesting. Because I started really looking at intent data probably a year and a half ago, and that's the kind of cool thing about the podcast is I get to talk to a lot of different people, I learn about a lot of different vendors, and specifically marketing technology vendors. Now I'm in a role as VP of marketing at Attila Security where I'm looking at, "What should my tech stack be?" And I've done this in a couple of different places now, looked at, reviewed intent data vendors. And I would say my perception, coming at this as an outsider, is that the big names that you hear most often are the ones that supply the account level data, as you described. I'm not going to name names, but that's basically what it is. Company x, lots of activity, they're looking at things. But you don't really know who in company x it is, and they market it as an account based marketing tool. So you're already doing account based marketing, you're already targeting companies. We are going to tell you which companies are showing the most interest. Which I can see the value of, but I'm actually really interested in this contact level stuff. Because yes, I think ABM has a lot of value, and it's something that I'm going to be working on, but I just can't help but think nothing beats knowing who the exact person is. You know, because at the end of the day that's the person who's either going to champion you or make the decision to buy. So, it's interesting to me that more companies haven't gone contact level data, and I'm curious if you can comment onto why that is. Why most intent data providers don't offer content-level buyer intent data Ed: Yeah, so there's a bunch of different reasons. Some of the big name companies started out unable to deliver contact level data and explained that as a technical impossibility or an illegality. And so there's some perception in the market that that's the case, neither of which are correct. A lot of the large name data is now sold just as an embed in other software, like with ABM software and/or with a contact database. And so it's just really easy for somebody to pay an extra 30 or 40 or 60 grand a year and get the data that just kind of flows. Of course- Kathleen: It's a lot of money, too, like, some of those add ons that you're talking about. Ed: Right. I think the other issue with intent data, of course if we have contact level intent data, it's easy to look, just on a pivot table for instance, at how many contacts from the same company are taking action. So you still get the account level insight, but it's a twofer. Not only are you getting that, but you're also getting the contact level insight. I think that one of the places that some companies have struggled with it is to just say, "Okay, I want to take this list of contacts, and I want to start blasting emails at them using, you know, SalesLoft or Outreach sequences”. And that's not all that effective. The companies that are really effective with it are the ones that take a more thoughtful approach whether it's in marketing, in sales, or both. So when you look at account level data, the reason that often succeeds with a sales team is because the sales team says, "Wow, there's something happening. I got to figure it out," and they start working contacts until they figure out where it is. And then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Whether they created the project through their diligence or uncovered it, nevertheless it's associated with intent data. On the other hand, marketing departments can take that contact level intent data, create custom audiences with it, for instance, and then do really remarkably focused and tailored paid ads to very specific audiences, again drawing on all of the contextual detail of stage and buying, journey, problem to be solved, etc. with a really tight sort of a messaging matrix. So to answer your question, from a marketing perspective, contact level data can mean more work. It's not as easy as just having Triblio tell you, "Okay, focus on these accounts." I mean, it takes additional work, particularly if you're going to use it for other use cases like event marketing in addition to demand gen. Market research is a great application for it. So you know, I think part of its awareness. Part of it is the initial perception that there was some impediment to using it, and part of it is the fact that there's more work to make it effective. How will Google's ban of third party cookies impact intent data? Kathleen: Now, I'm going to ask what might be a dumb question, but I've been reading in the news lately about how Google is going to ban and/or phase out the ability for people to use third party cookies. And I'm still trying to wrap my head around what that means. But it seems to me, this is where it might be a dumb question, that it's going to affect some of these intent data providers, particularly the ones that are looking at leveraging data coming in through ad platforms. Is that correct? Ed: Yeah, I think it's not a dumb question at all, and it's very perceptive of you. That's precisely correct. If you look at one of the very common methods of collection of intent data, it's based on programmatic advertising platforms. It's bid stream data, it's collected through a DSP, and what's interest is that- Kathleen: What's a DSP? Ed: Honestly, I don't even know what the acronym stands for. I'm going to embarrass myself. Kathleen: No, I mean I have no idea either. I was like, "Oh my god, am I just the only one who doesn't know?" Ed: What's interesting is that many of these providers have actually, going to set up a DSP without the intention of brokering and placing ads. But so they have the insight into what's happening into the market. Kathleen: Interesting. Ed: Who has space available, what kinds of topics, and who wants to put ads onto those pages. So it gives them some insight they've been able to build their intent data collection on, but that's predicated, to a large extent, on third party cookies, which of course Apple and Firefox did away with a while ago, but Google has announced a couple weeks ago they'll do on Chrome as well. Kathleen: Ah oh, by the way, I'm going to confess I did just Google DSP. It's a demand side platform. Ed: There you go. Kathleen: "Buyers of digital advertising use to manage multiple ad exchange and data exchange accounts." I had to look that one up, so you learn something new every day. Ed: Perfect. There are some alternative methods that companies in that space use. They try to call it fingerprinting and some other things, but they're just not effective. And so you're absolutely right. Although the sunset deadline I think is two years off, there are, in this crazy intent industry, there are companies demanding three year contracts right now including some that are selling DSPs. So how'd you like to be a company that signed a three year contact for that about a month ago? Kathleen: Yeah, and your provider's going to basically become obsolete, or they're going to have to figure out a different way to do it. So okay. Well, thank you for clarifying that. I didn't want to take us on too much of a tangent, but it's been on my mind. Understanding third party cookies is ... it's complicated. Ed: It is, for sure. Kathleen: So I probably need to do a whole separate episode just on that so that people can understand it, including myself. But in the meantime, so we're talking about contact level intent data, which in your case is not going to be affected if I understand correctly by Google's ban of third party cookies. Ed: That's correct. How are marketers using content-level buyer intent data? Kathleen: So now I'd like to shift gears and really talk about, "What does this look like in action?" Like, how are marketers using this information to improve their inbound marketing results? Do you have some examples you can talk us through? Ed: Sure, absolutely. I think that there's really three phases. One is building a full data stack. The second is doing proper analysis and segmentation, and then the third is doing orchestration. And if you look at kind of the maturity of the market right now, there's very few that are at the orchestration stage. There's not all that many that are doing the analysis and segmentation correctly, just because the limits of the existing martech stack that they have. But let's kind of, if you're up for it, let's work through those three kind of quickly. Kathleen: Let's do it. Ed: Chunk each one out. All right, so first you've got to have ... I shouldn't say it that way. It is beneficial, and as the process matures more companies will have a full data stack. So that means first party data, not just what you're observing of known users on your site, you know people that convert forms and come back and look at the pages, but anonymous first party data, who from companies is visiting your site that you don't know who they are, and then first party data from elsewhere in the organization. For instance, information on in-app usage and transactional information. There's all kinds of first party data that companies just partition. They think, "Well, that's customer service," or, "That's operations," or whatever but really is important to understand that entire customer life cycle. I think it's also important for companies to think of intent data across the customer life cycle, not just as a prospecting and demand gen sort of tool. Because it's got use cases across. But also in that full data stack, you might want some second party data from a couple publishers that are particularly strong in your industry that own those relationships. They have opted in readers and subscribers that have some really important insights into what's happening on their platform in that space and that subject domain that's important to you. And then third party data. And typically a couple sources of third party data. A great example in the martech space is G2 Crowd which doesn't give you a lot of signal but certainly gives you some important signal. You mesh that with something like our intentdata.io data, and now you've got a really interesting perspective. Those then, you've got to roll them up, properly unify them, cleanse them, and then you start to enrich it. And you enrich perhaps the technographic information or firmographic information. Or you understand about parent companies, and child companies, and how all of that's fitting together, you do some validation: validate email addresses, validate physical addresses because there's more marketing being done B to B with direct mail again, now. So all of this stuff has to kind of be rolled up into a very accurate, single customer view. That's one of the places that current marketing technology tends to fall a little bit short. Although there's great synchronization in many cases, there's not a lot of great unification of the data, and so that becomes a barrier sometimes for companies. They've got a great stack with Salesforce and Marketo and Drift and all these important pieces that fit together, but they're just not quite able to get it all rolled up into one very accurate, properly enriched, properly unified view. So then that sometimes is a barrier to the second step which is the analysis and segmentation. So think about it, for instance, if you had ... You talk a lot about ABM so you probably know Kerry Cunningham from Sirius and now Forrester that talks about second lead disease. You know, Kerry makes the point that we all get really excited about the first lead from a new logo, and that's great. The second lead from that same logo comes in, and people say, "Oh, that's cool. That's interesting, but we already have one. We're already working it." His point is that second one is the one that ought to get people excited because now you know that there's something more going on. It's not just some person, a crackpot, doing research on their own, but there's some sort of organizational activity. Kathleen: Right. There's water cooler talk happening at that company. Ed: Exactly. So let's extend that. Let's say that you have one or two people that convert on your site, known people in your first party data. Let's say that one of them has a demo, you know gets the freemium version of it and uses a lot of it, and one of them gets the freemium version and doesn't use it much. Let's say that there's two or three people from the same company that hit your site a number of times but don't identify themselves. So you know there's additional activity in the company. Now, let's say in third party data you see some of those same people plus other members that you know would be part of that buying team, in other words the right roles and functions are in place so you know there's a project, and you see them engaging with competitors, engaging with industry news. You can see where each of them is in the buying journey. And so now you've got a really interesting understanding of what's happening across that whole company. You've kind of validated the fact there is a project. You understand the roles that you see engaged. You understand the roles that aren't engaged or that you don't see and what your sales people need to focus, etc. But if you think about it, if you try to do that in a lot of the marketing automation software, you can't do it. I mean, even stepping from the contact level to the account level in many cases is a little bit tricky. It's not really a relational database the way you need it to be with most of the marketing automation platforms in order to do that sort of thing. There's two pieces. One is the technology piece, and the other is kind of the intellectual rigor and curiosity that's necessary to go through and say, "Let's build scenarios that really would tell us it's likely, it's sure," however you want to chunk them — MQL, SQL, whatever the case may be, and that's that analysis and segmentation then that gets really, really interesting and where companies, I think, in general are not yet hitting that point. They're kind of taking the list and saying, "Let's see who's on our target account list, and let's follow up with them," as opposed to using that list as a way to inform the target account vessel. Then the third piece, once you've done that, if you've got it all properly segmented, including micro segmentation so that the messaging is appropriate for the function, the seniority, the stage in the buying journey, competitors they've talked to, pages they've been on your site, all of that kind of stuff. Then you want to orchestrate, and you want to pull in your entire martech stack. So you want to automatically launch sequences from Outreach if that's what you're doing. You want to automatically add people to the right custom audience for a social advertising. You want to automatically add people to the right segment and address so when they come, they have exactly the right customized chatbot experience when they come. And you want all this stuff to happen automatically and at scale. And then further, you also want the automation to push the dots close enough together for the sales team. You want to suggest to the BDR, "Here's what we've observed. Here's what we infer from that. Therefore here's the template we think you should use and the enablement content we think you should use." You want to let the sales person or the AE know if they're in the midst of an opportunity and you see engagement with a competitor, then you want to make sure that they're clear not only that it happened but give them some context of the role and whether that person is also part of their deal or a new person. Just help them understand how to react to it. Because there's so much information flowing at people, it's really important to give them that context so they can seize it and action it. So I've been rambling, but I think those are kind of the three key areas to fully put intent data to work. Who is having success using intent data? Kathleen: It's incredibly clear to me that this holds amazing potential for marketers from so many different standpoints, and you covered a lot of them. You know, in terms of ad targeting, in terms of key account selection, helping your sales team, your BDR, your SDR, etc. do their job better, but it also sounds really complicated. So is there anybody out there that you've seen in the wild who's really doing this well? Like, who's really using this information well and getting results with it? Ed: There are some companies that are doing it, and it's places where they've had one person that kind of really seized it, applied creative energy to it, saw the opportunity, and grew with it. I understand absolutely your point about it sounding complicated. On the other hand, if we were to talk about doing digital marketing really well, that's really complicated too. And so there's always layers. I mean, you can start easy and then gradually progress into it as the organizational maturity and resources satisfy that. Kathleen: Yeah. Have you seen any success stories like where somebody's really been able to point to intent data and say, "That was the thing that helped me double my results or land that key customer"? Ed: Yeah, so we're not at liberty to discuss any of our client data and success stories because of nondisclosures. There's a lady named Amanda Bone who spoke at the B2B Marketing Exchange in Boston actually in conjunction with TechTarget talking about what they've done with a very robust intent data program, and I think the story that she told really illustrates the way you have to move into it progressively, you have to be very clear that you've got these cascading goals that you want to achieve. You're not going to try to do everything immediately, but also she understood the importance of having some platform that would help to integrate the data from different sources so that it wasn't just, you know, I got to look here, and then look there, and then look there, and hope that I remember it but rather pulled it together into some sort of a single view that made it actionable both for marketing and for sales. Unifying your intent data for use in marketing campaigns Kathleen: And what kinds of platforms do that? Ed: A couple of the intent data companies have very limited platforms that they may integrate anonymous first party data. In other words put some sort of an IP address lookup tool on your site in conjunction with third party data and provide a roll up of that, but the right answer I believe, and the direction that we're headed with clients, is to use a full blown CDP, to have the full capability of unification and the full capability of orchestration. Getting started with contact-level buyer intent data Kathleen: And so if you were somebody listening and you're thinking, "This sounds really cool. I would love to dip my toe in the water," but they're maybe intimidated by the full blown picture of, "Here's what it takes to really knock it out of the park," how would you suggest a marketer get started with this? What are some smaller things they could do to maybe have some initial wins and demonstrate success to, of course, as every marketer needs to think about like get that organizational buy in. Ed: Sure, absolutely. One of the really cool things about intent data is if marketers use it well, they can foster the alignment that seems so elusive between departments. So I look for quick wins with your partners on the success team, and that means feeding them signal from current customers and providing some training so that they understand how to interpret that signal. But if you see a current customer that's taking action with competitors or researching stuff, it's also a good upsell cross sell opportunity. So turn reduction, upsell, cross sell. So you can win with a success team pretty easily that way. With the sales team, I would discourage you from trying to start pushing them a bunch of new leads. I would focus on pending opportunities and target accounts and push them that signal. Now, you're going to have to provide a little bit more coaching and training in that case. And so you might want to phase it in gradually because nothing would be worse than a clumsy salesperson calling up and saying, "I thought you said you were going to buy from us. Why are you talking to the competitor?" That's not the way to use the data. So you want to make sure you train to avoid that. In terms of the marketing function itself, two easy places to start. If you're running pay ads, then develop some parallel paid ad programs with custom audiences, very tailored messaging. That's a relatively easy lift if you already have a paid ads program in place. If you're not doing any paid ads then that's going to feel like a project. So that's a judgment call. The second is to monitor events. If you're in an industry where a competitor of yours sponsors an event, what a fabulous opportunity to understand who the people are engaging with that event and target them with outbound sales. If you have industry wide events then do the same sort of a thing, but it's not specifically for targeting customers. It's obviously to create a base of leads for paid ads, for salespeople outreach, and maybe even in some cases if you're going to have a salesperson at an event and you're not investing a ton of money in exhibiting there. Use that to help them schedule appointments before they go. So those are a couple easy marketing use cases as well as a couple easy ways to incorporate it with sales, and success, and build alignment and buy in. Kathleen: Yeah, it's interesting that you mentioned events because I've thought about that. Even if you are exhibiting, if you're going to spend the money to have a booth at an event, most events these days don't give out their attendee lists. Ed: Right. Kathleen: And so, you know, marketers are left kind of scrambling with, "Well, how are we going to drive people to the booth?" Because you can send out a big blast, but you don't know that the people getting it are actually planning on attending, but if you can use intent data to narrow down your marketings to people who are going to be going to the event, then you can use a combination of advertising. You could ... there's all kinds of things you can do to really get in front of them before that event. Ed: Absolutely. For sure. And that investment is huge. That's where a lot of companies' marketing investment is going, but there's applications for the intent data before the event, during, and after. And of course there's also applications for event organizers for companies th at are organizing their own event and then opening it up to kind of parallel players. That intent data gives you ability as an event organizer to monetize for your other exhibitors. Because you can then say, "Hey, look. You're in such a such a space. We will, as part of the event package if you buy this add on, we will provide informational people that we see engaging that we believe are going to be attending the event that are particularly interested in what you're doing." So there's additional value as an organizer to monetize when you're exhibiting. Is buyer intent data GDPR compliant? Kathleen: Now, I'm sure that there are some marketers who are listening, and one of the questions that they'll have is, "What implications does GDPR have for all of this?" Because we're talking about contact level data, both data that you might be harvesting as the marketer using intent data, but you also just mentioned like event organizers sharing that data with others. So can you just talk about that for a moment? Ed: Show me two attorneys that will give you the same answer about any GDPR topic. I mean, we can certainly talk about it. There is no definitive answer. Every company has to have its own philosophy. I can tell you that we have clients in the EU that run our data the way we normally provide it. We also have clients in the EU and in the US that request that we mask certain fields in the data. So they get the job title, for instance, from which they can discern a lot of information, but they don't get the name and email address, and they still get most of the value out of it. So those are things that each company has to decide. The bottom line, we believe based on our understanding, is the data is entirely GDPR compliant as it. And because of how we harvest, what we're doing is we're watching people take action publicly online. So it's very much akin if you saw somebody comment on a blog post, on an article on Forbes or on a conversation on LinkedIn and you're a salesperson in the EU, there's nothing that prohibits you from figuring out who that person is, and reaching out, and contacting them saying, "It looks to me like this is of interest to you." So I mean, that's the closest analogy to commonly accepted sales practice that describes the data and why it's acceptable. Kathleen: Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. You're right, it's a total gray area, but I appreciate you trying to clarify that. Kathleen's two questions Kathleen: So shifting gears, I have two questions I ask all of my guests. You've been down this road before, but we're going to do it again because some time has passed. So we'll see if your answers have changed. Who do you think, either company or individual, is really kind of setting the example for what it means to do great inbound marketing these days? Ed: And I can guarantee you my answer isn't changed because I don't remember what my answers were. So I would say to that, a company called Mosquito Squad. I don't know if you've ever heard of them. Kathleen: Oh, yeah. Ed: Where I live in New England, the mosquitoes are horrible in the summer, and I get tired of ... Basically, you can't go outside for part of the year. So I got really fed up in hunting around, and they popped up, kind of typical inbound playbook, but then they have so fully integrated a helpful, and informative, and consultative approach throughout the process that made it easy to understand why to use them or what was involved and we ought to select them. Then it made it really easy to understand once we did what the process was going to be. Then they're really good about letting you know, "Okay, we're going to be there in 20 minutes. Okay, we're done. Here's what we did. Here's the invoice." I mean, it's so well integrated that not only did it make it easy to find them and learn about the service, but it makes working with them really easy too. Kathleen: Yeah, you're right about those mosquitoes in New England because I grew up in New Hampshire, and my mother used to go out to do yard work, and she literally would wear a hat that had a net that came down and like tucked into her shirt. It'd be like 90 degrees, and she'd be in long sleeves and long pants, and the pants would be tucked into her socks. It was just crazy. Ed: Right. Kathleen: So second question, getting off the mosquito topic, things change so quickly. This is a great example of that. Intent data, DSPs, most marketers really have trouble keeping up with all of it. So how do you personally keep up with everything that's changing in the world of digital marketing? Ed: Well, what I do specifically is not focus on inbound and digital marketing. I try to watch business more broadly. With general business resources, about trends in the economy, I mean there's certainly some kind of advertising and marketing related blogs that I follow and newsletters that I get from Ad Age through some others. I use a lot of Google Alerts around very specific kinds of terms because that way I'm not limited in hearing from the sources that I know about, but I'm discovering new sources as information becomes, and different perspectives become, available. I think like most people, this is a pitch for yours, podcasts are a great way to just kind of parachute in, get some ideas, see where there's an interesting episode, listen to it. You can do it while you're doing other things. So those are a great tool. Then the other thing that I do is follow a couple people, not so much because I'm so excited about the ideas they talk about but because I really love watching the way they create content and practice their craft. So I learn from seeing how folks balance all the media, and produce a lot of content, and build social following, and I just appreciate the way they do it whether or not I agree with the message that they're espousing. Kathleen: Can you name some names? Ed: Well, having said that I may not agree with the message they're espousing I got to be careful, but I mean there's some prominent marketers in the Boston area that have very large followings, that have a loudly proclaimed opinion about a lot of different things, that I think sometimes it's a little bit superficial or vapid, but they do create a lot of great content across a lot of channels. Kathleen: All right. With that caveat, come on I'm going to keep plugging. Who you got? Who you got? Ed: I think Dave Gerhardt is really interesting to watch. Kathleen: Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, you agree or disagree with anything he says, it's you can't disagree with the fact that he has successfully built a tremendous audience. Ed: Right. Kathleen: There's no two ways about it. Ed: Right. Kathleen: He actually gets mentioned a lot as a response to that first question I asked you. Yeah. Cool. Well, that's all interesting, and any particular podcasts that you are really a fan of? Ed: More general business ones. I love Business Wars. I like listening to The Knowledge Project from Shane Parrish. I like listening to some of the same ones that other people talk about, Joe Rogan where you get interesting perspectives from people of in depth interviews, history things. You know, Bonsai and all kinds of stuff. There's a lot of great podcasts out there. Kathleen: Yeah. I always love hearing what other people are listening to because there are so many out there, and I wish I had 48 hours in every day to listen to podcasts. It's a great way to learn. Ed: Like the numbers, if you compare the number of blogs to the number of podcasts, I don't remember what the numbers are, but there's like 3% the number of podcasts. So people that say that podcasting is already over the hill, I don't think that's the case. Kathleen: No. Well, it better not be. Because I'm on episode 130+ and I plan to keep going, so. Ed: You've got many more to go. Perfect. How to connect with Ed Kathleen: But then again, maybe that makes me an OG. I have no idea. This has been fun, Ed. I appreciate it, and if somebody is listening and they want to reach out to you and ask a question about intent data, or they want to learn more about intentdata.io, what's the best way for them to do that? Ed: They can email me at ed@intentdata.io, or they can go to the website intentdata.io. You know what to do next... Kathleen: Awesome. All right, I'll put those links in the show notes. And if you are listening and you have not yet taken a moment and gone to Apple Podcasts and left the podcast a review, I'm going to ask you to do that today. It's how we get found by new people. We're 130+ episodes in as we talked about, and I would really appreciate it. So if you're a regular listener in particular, take a minute and leave a review, and if you know somebody else who's doing kick ass inbound marketing work, tweet me @workmommywork because I'm always looking for new inbound marketers to interview. Kathleen: That's it for this week. Thank you so much, Ed. This has been a lot of fun having you back for a second time. Ed: Well thank you very much, Kathleen. I enjoyed it as well.

Studijā notikumus komentē Latvijas Ārpolitikas institūta pētnieks Aldis Austers un LU pasniedzēja Sigita Struberga. Komunistiskās Ķīnas septiņdesmitgade 1. oktobrī ar grandiozu militāro parādi un tai sekojošu pilsoņu gājienu Pekinas Tjaņaņmeņas laukumā tika atzīmēta Ķīnas Tautas Republikas 70. gadadiena. Ķīnas kompartijas ģenerālsekretārs un prezidents Sjī Dzjiņpins uzrunāja klātesošos, stāvēdams turpat, kur pirms 70 gadiem režīma pamatlicējs Mao Dzeduns, kad pasludināja tautas republikas nodibināšanu. Dziņpina vārdiem par to, ka nav spēka, kurš varētu satricināt sociālistiskās Ķīnas pozīcijas planētas austrumdaļā, ir visai nopietns segums. Pēdējā desmitgadē Ķīna nepārprotami kļuvusi par pasaules otro spēcīgāko valsti kā ekonomiski, tā militāri. Parādē sociālistiskās impērijas iespējas uzskatāmi demonstrēja jaunākās paaudzes virsskaņas bezpilota lidaparāti un starpkontinentālās ballistiskās raķetes. Arī Ķīnas ekonomiskā ekspansija, mērķtiecīgi investējot un iegūstot aktīvus visās pasaules daļās, nevienam nav noslēpums. Par pašu ģenerālsekretāru un prezidentu Sjī mēdz teikt, ka varas koncentrācijas ziņā viņš jau varot mēroties ar pašu priekšsēdētāju Mao. Tomēr ārējās varenības izpausmju fonā vīd nopietnas problēmas, ar kurām šobrīd saskaras Ķīna. Pasaules medijos režīma septiņdesmitgades sakarā tiek tiražēta atziņa, ka neviena no 20. gs. vienpartijas diktatūrām nav nodzīvojusi daudz ilgāk par 70 gadiem; tai skaitā padomju boļševisms, kurš pastāvēja, ja skaita no pašas režīma iedibināšanās 1917. gada novembrī, nepilnus 74 gadus. Ķīnas sociālisms jau sen vairs nav tāds, kādu mēģināja radīt Mao un viņa laikabiedri citās pagājušā gadsimta totalitārajās sistēmās. Šodienas Ķīnā privātpersonas var iegūt bagātību, kāda padomju stila sociālismā nevienam oficiāli nebija ļauta. Padomju pieredze rāda, ka, ieguvuši ekonomiskos resursus, jaunbagātnieki tos agri vai vēlu tiecas konvertēt politiskā ietekmē. Pie tam resursi, kas ļāva Ķīnai veikt grandiozo ekonomisko izrāvienu, – lētais darbaspēks un urbanizācijas iespējas – pamazām izsīkst. Taču, sevišķi tumšu ēnu pār septiņdesmitgades svinību spozmi met teju četrus mēnešus ilgstošie protesti Honkongā, liekot apšaubīt prezidenta runā slavētā „viena valsts, divas sistēmas” principa veiksmi. Kamēr Ķīnas kontinentālajā daļā notika svinības par godu komunistiskā režīma 70 gadu jubilejai, Honkongā notika kārtējie protesti. Pirms raidījuma mēs sazvanījām Honkongā dzīvojošo "Quartz" žurnālisti Marī Hoi, lai aprunātos par protestiem un uzzinātu viņas domas par demokrātiskas Honkongas iespējām pastāvēt Ķīnā arī nākotnē. Mēs redzam ar protestiem šeit, cik grūti tas ir [saglabāt demokrātiju]. Honkongā notiek sadursme starp autoritāru Ķīnu un demokrātisku Honkongu. Tas, kā tas viss izvērtīsies arī būs atbilde uz šo jautājumu. Es esmu optimistiska un cerību pilna, bet, manuprāt, ir grūti paredzēt iznākumu. Šur un tur pavīd doma par neatkarību, bet protestētāju galvenā prasība ir saglabāt to, kas Honkongai jau ir , un ir nostiprināts konstitūcijā - neatkarīga jurisdikcija, pilsoniskā brīvība, kas nav pieejama un netiek aizsargāta kontinentālajā Ķīnā. Ar neatkarību drīzāk tiek saprasta autonomija, nevis pilnīga atdalīšanās no Ķīnas.  Starptautiskā uzmanība Honkongai ir milzīga. Daudzi protestētāji, ar kuriem esmu runājusi, redz Honkongu kā frontes līniju šai globālajai cīņai - liberālās demokrātijas un Ķīnas komunistu partijas pārstāvēto vērtību sadursmei. Ja skatās tālāk par protestu virsrakstiem, ir arī protestētāju mēģinājumi panākt Honkongas cilvēktiesību un demokrātijas likumu ASV kongresā. Starptautiskās sabiedrības un mediju uzmanība protestiem ir bezprecedenta, un daudzi protestētāji tajā jūt atbalstu un iedrošinājumu. Godīgi sakot, ikdienas dzīve joprojām ir visnotaļ normāla - cilvēki dodas uz darbu, uz skolu, bet, protams, mēs zinām, ka viss ir mainījies. Sabiedriskais transports ir mainījies uz mūžu, cilvēki autobusos ir pārmeklēti pēc protestiem, augustā vilciena stacijā tika piekauti cilvēki, neviens tur nepārbaudīja, vai tie ir protestētāji, vai nē. [..] ir mainījies tas, kā cilvēki domā, kā sarunājas viens ar otru, pat attiecības ar policiju, tas viss ir mainījies. Ja paskatās uz aptauju datiem pēdējos mēnešos, uzticība policijai ir ārkārtīgi samazinājusies kopš protestu sākuma. Var redzēt, ka policijas spēku virzienā virmo daudz dusmu par, kā daudzi uzskata, pārmērīgu spēka lietošanu. Ukrainas piekrišana „Šteinmeiera formulai” Kā kļuva zināms otrdien, Minskā notiekošo Trīspusējās kontaktgrupas sarunu dalībnieki – Krievijas, Ukrainas un EDSO pārstāvji – piekrituši t.s. „Šteinmeiera formulai” procesā, kurā separātistu kontrolētajām teritorijām Ukrainas austrumos tiek piešķirts īpašs statuss, kuru tām paredz Minskas vienošanās. „Formulas” akceptēšana bija Krievijas nosacījums, lai tiktu atjaunotas sarunas t.s. „Normandijas formātā” – ar Ukrainas, Krievijas un Francijas prezidentu un Vācijas kanclera piedalīšanos. Risinājums, kuru savulaik ierosināja toreizējais Vācijas ārlietu ministrs un tagadējais prezidents Franks Valters Šteinmeiers, paredz, ka īpašais statuss ir spēkā īslaicīgi, bet tiklīdz separātiskajās teritorijās noslēgušās vietvaras vēlēšanas, un kļūst pastāvīgs tad, ja EDSO novērotāji atzīst šīs vēlēšanas par demokrātijas standartiem un Ukrainas likumdošanai atbilstošām. Daudzi Ukrainā uzskata „Šteinmeiera formulas” akceptēšanu par nepieņemamu piekāpšanos, pat kapitulāciju Maskavai. Viņuprāt šī formula pieļauj vēlēšanas Krievijas karaspēka un bruņoto separātistu kontrolētā teritorijā, kur Ukrainas likumi praksē nedarbosies; ka Ukraina, piešķirot separātiskajam reģionam īpašo statusu, uzņemsies saistības, taču kontroli pār šīm teritorijām un savu austrumu robežu tā arī neiegūs. Kijevā un citās Ukrainas pilsētās jau sākušās protesta akcijas. Ukrainas prezidents Volodimirs Zelenskis jau paziņojis, ka nekādu vēlēšanu „Krievijas automātu stobru priekšā” Donbasā nebūšot. Arī daudzi eksperti uzskata, ka „Šteinmeiera formulas” akceptēšana ir tikai principiāla piekrišana konkrētam risinājumam, kas reālu nozīmi iegūs tikai tad, kad tiks iekļauts vispārējā Minskas vienošanos īstenošanas plānā. Pagaidām nav skaidrs, kad minētās vietvaru vēlēšanas separātistu kontrolētajos rajonos varētu notikt, un, ļoti iespējams, to sarīkošana atdursies pret Krievijas militārās klātbūtnes problēmu.   Džonsona jaunais breksita plāns Mēs pametam Eiropas Savienību 31. oktobrī, lai notiek, kas notikdams. Pabeigsim breksitu! Mēs to varam, mums tas jāizdara un mēs to izdarīsim, lai gan padošanās likums mums neatvieglo šo uzdevumu. Tā sacīja britu premjerministrs Boriss Džonsons, vakar uzstādamies ar noslēguma runu Konservatīvo partijas konferencē Mančestrā. Piesauktais „padošanās likums” ir Parlamenta 4. septembrī pieņemtais lēmums, kas liek premjeram lūgt Eiropas Savienībai izstāšanās termiņa pagarinājumu, ja līdz 31. oktobrim neizdotos panākt vienošanos par izstāšanās noteikumiem. Savus jaunos priekšlikumus izstāšanās nosacījumiem Džonsons vakar nosūtīja Eiropas Komisijas prezidentam Žanam Klodam Junkeram un citām Eiropas Savienības institūcijām. Plāna būtība ir: Ziemeļīrija vēl vismaz līdz 2025. gadam saglabātu vienotus preču un pakalpojumu standartus ar Īrijas Republiku, tātad arī ar Eiropas Savienību, taču līdz ar pārējo Lielbritāniju pamestu savienības muitas ūniju. Attiecīgi uz Ziemeļīrijas un Īrijas robežas netiktu kontrolēti preču kvalitātes standarti, taču preces varētu tikt muitotas. Pamatā tas notiktu elektroniski, uz robežas darbotos tikai daži muitas punkti, kas faktiski nenozīmētu robežas slēgšanu. Par šī statusa saglabāšanu reizi četros gados lemtu Ziemeļīrijas parlaments. Uzstājoties Mančestrā, Džonsons paziņoja, ka šis esot pēdējais piedāvājums Eiropas Savienībai, un alternatīva tam ir tikai bezvienošanās izstāšanās. Kā zināms, tomēr nav britu premjera spēkos īstenot izstāšanos „lai notiek, kas notikdams”. Viņam jāsaņem Briseles piekrišana saviem priekšlikumiem vai arī jāpilda Parlamenta lēmums un jālūdz izstāšanās atlikšana. Eiropas Savienības viedoklim izšķiroša, visdrīzāk, būs Īrijas Republikas nostāja.

Wakacje, czas odpoczynku, wyjazdów i wyzbywania się stresów dnia codziennego. Zmiana otoczenia, oderwanie się od rutyny, nadrabianie zaległości, czy to rodzinnych, czy swoich prywatnych, oraz najlepszy czas na próbowanie nowych rzeczy. Można, niczym siedmioletnia Penny McDonald, o której szerzej mówimy w odcinku, wydać np. swoją grę na steam. Dlaczego? Dla przyjemności oczywiście! Ale co to jest przyjemność? Tutaj, nieoczekiwanie, z odpowiedzią przychodzi znów znany nam z poprzednich wpisów Pan Simon Sinek. Czytam kolejną książkę „Liderzy jedzą na końcu”. W rozdziale szóstym książki, zatytułowanym EDSO, możemy przeczytać o endorfinie, dopaminie, serotoninie i oksytocynie. Czterech związkach chemicznych, które dają nam naturalne szczęście. Jeśli zmagacie się z kontrolowanym bólem, np. podczas biegania, to macie do czynienia z endorfinami. Ich głównym celem jest jego maskowanie. Kiedyś było nam to potrzebne, żeby wytrzymać długie zmagania ze zdobywaniem pożywienia, dzisiaj daje nam przyjemność po ciężkim wysiłku fizycznym. Dopamina jest dużo bardziej przewrotna. Głównie opowiada za uczucie satysfakcji po zrobieniu czegoś dobrze. Jak skończmy zadanie, projekt, albo po prostu wypełniamy nasze cele. Problem z nią jest taki, że jest uzależniająca. Zarówno hazard, jak narkotyki, czy alkohol powodują jej uwolnienie do krwi. Serotonina, zwana narkotykiem przywództwa, to związek, który wydziela się do naszego organizmu, kiedy czujemy dumę i uznanie. To miłe uczucie wywołane np. ukończeniem studiów, zdobyciem jakiejś ważnej nagrody, która podnosi nasz status i uznanie wśród znajomych, czy uczucie spełnienia po napisaniu fajnego tekstu, to właśnie efekt serotoniny. Na koniec najprzyjemniejszy ze związków, czyli oksytocyna. Zakochanie, przyjaźń i miłość. Kiedy otaczamy się ludźmi, na których nam zależy i w towarzystwie których czujemy się dobrze, to uczucie, które nam towarzyszy wywołane jest przez oksytocynę. Zaufanie, życzliwość i empatia, to skutki działania tego właśnie związku. „Oksytocyna czyni z nas istoty społeczne”, jak pisze Pan Sinek. Jak widać przyjemność to kumulacja wielu czynników i związków chemicznych „pływających” w naszym ciele. Mam nadzieje, że wysłuchanie czterdziestego szóstego odcinka naszego podkastu pozwoli wam poczuć działanie przynajmniej jednego z nich ;) Bawmy się! UWAGA, sypiemy SPOILER'AMI na lewo i prawo. Nie ma taryfy ulgowej! Dzisiaj rozmawiamy o: - Gameplayu z Red Dead Redemption 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_oH5oiUSE - Wrażeniach Piotra po ukończeniu Far Cry 5 - https://far-cry.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/home/ - Wrażeniach Piotr po długiej sesji grą z Dirt 4 - http://www.codemasters.com/game/dirt-4/ - Komiksie Fatale - https://www.komiks.gildia.pl/komiksy/fatale-smierc/1 - Książce Simona Sineka „Zaczynaj od Dlaczego” - http://lubimyczytac.pl/ksiazka/179180/zaczynaj-od-dlaczego-jak-wielcy-liderzy-inspiruja-innych-do-dzialania - tym, że Fallout 76 nie będzie na Steam - https://kotaku.com/fallout-76-isnt-launching-on-steam-1828145203 - tym, jak poprawnie wymawiać nazwę konsoli Nintendo NES - https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-08-03-nintendo-finally-confirms-how-you-pronounce-nes - siedmiolatce, która wydała swoją grę na Steam - https://steamed.kotaku.com/inspired-by-her-game-dev-dad-7-year-old-releases-her-f-1828094688 - tym, że Sir Patrick Stewart powraca do Star Trek - https://io9.gizmodo.com/sir-patrick-stewart-is-returning-to-star-trek-for-a-new-1828108878 - tym, że Oscary 2019 będą miały nową kategorię - https://news.avclub.com/oscars-add-best-popular-film-category-for-the-uncultu-1828194090 - tym, że na Discordzie kupimy już gry - https://kotaku.com/discord-is-launching-its-own-curated-game-store-1828210465 - tym, że IGN został oskarżony o plagiat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PdwTXwOTNs - tym, że Niemcy zmieniły swoje prawo i jak to wpływa na popkulturę - https://kotaku.com/games-in-germany-can-have-nazi-imagery-now-1828238768 Miłego słuchania :)

We discuss the idea of professional reinvention and sit down with sales executive and entreprenuer Edward Nunn to hear his 33 year journey. Length: 54:08Host: Zach | AdeEdward Nunn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-nunn-7851ba11/NunnAbove www.nunnabove.comLiving Corporate Patreon and All Major Links: https://linktr.ee/livingcorporateTRANSCRIPTAde: "It is not the strongest species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change." The context of this apocryphal quote commonly attributed to Darwin is related to this theory of biological evolution, but I believe there's something more there. For many of us, we don't want to just survive, we want to thrive. We want to achieve as much as we can while being our best selves, or at least while striving to find out who our best selves are. So with that in mind, what does change responsiveness look like for us in our careers? How do we adapt professionally to make sure we're constantly setting ourselves up for long-term success? What does that even mean? What does that look like? This is Ade, and you're listening to Living Corporate. It's the remix. Zach: What?Ade: Thank you for joining us. [laughs] My bad. Today we're talking about reinventing yourself professionally, so I thought it was contextually appropriate. So the act of making a career change that is in-line with your long-term career goals.Zach: Oh, okay. Yes, gotcha. Yes. [laughs]Ade: Yeah. [laughs]Zach: This is really important though. Like, the concept of looking where you believe you're trending professionally and making adjustments. Sometimes they're major adjustments where appropriate. Speaking of which, Ade, would you mind talking to us about your journey to becoming an engineer?Ade: It's been a pretty rough, rough trip so far, and--I mean, some of it has been very enjoyable, and I mean that with all sincerity. I've had some amazing experience, but a lot of it has just been, you know, having to teach yourself a whole new--brand new field of knowledge. I like to describe myself as a learner, but having to teach yourself a whole new field of knowledge when you have nothing to base that field on is incredibly daunting. And I've had some, you know, technical issues, technical difficulties along the way, and I've also had some very, like, up at 2 A.M. in the morning like, "I don't think I can do this." Like, "I don't think that I am up to the task of making this switch," and that's not because I don't find this interesting or I don't find this, like, mind-meltingly awesome, it's that I just don't feel like I'm capable. And so those doubts always exist, but the fun thing about the switch is that in reinventing yourself you discover parts of yourself that you didn't know were there. And so it's difficult, it's daunting, but it's also really, really rewarding. Like, sometimes I get to a point where [inaudible] or my portfolio site comes together and I'm like, "Oh, my God. I did it. I did it, and I didn't--" I mean, yes, I used Stack Overflow more than once, but I did it, you know? You get that sense of accomplishment that you're not actually steering your life right off a cliff, and there's that duality of on the one hand "Am I even supposed to be here?" And on the other hand, on the days where, you know, you do feel like you're in the right room or you do feel like you're doing the right thing and you do feel like "I'm right where I need to be," it's this breathless wonder, I suppose is the best way of putting it, at just how dope everything can be.Zach: That's so cool. I know of a few people, right, who have made similar changes in terms of--not similar changes in terms of becoming an engineer, but similar decisions to kind of make a pivot, right, career-wise, and you know, I've seen people who have transitioned from being, like, HR managers to being fashion bloggers. I've seen--I have friends who have transitioned from being teachers to being full-time photographers. I've had friends who worked in the government and now they're, like, running intramural sports leagues. And I can't speak to the bag, like, how much money they're making, but I can say that each and every one of them seemed much more fulfilled in their day-to-day activities. And so, like, I'm really excited for you because you're going through a journey yourself, and I'm excited to see what the other side of that looks like for you.Ade: [laughs] So am I.Zach: [laughs] And I know that regardless of whatever, you know, ultimately it is, you're gonna be a better version of yourself coming out of it, so I'm really excited for you for that.Ade: Aye. And here's where we insert the celebratory Milly Rock. [laughs] But yeah, you know what? I think it would be super interesting to talk to someone who has had to professionally maybe reinvent themselves a couple times over, several times over. I'm thinking major changes, something like transitioning from education to car sales to, I don't know, stock brokering? To maybe pharmaceuticals to--hm, let's go with hospice care, and bonus points if this person was somehow related, in some form or fashion, to one of our Living Corporate hosts.Zach: Oh, you mean like our guest, my dad Ed Nunn?Ade & Zach: Whaaaaat? Zach: [imitates airhorns][Sound Man throws 'em in]Zach: Sound Man, listen, now. You gonna give me my pow-pow-pows, but then you also give me a couple pow-pow-pows 'cause it's my dad, okay? So pow-pow-pow. Give me a couple more.[Sound Man obliges]Zach: Give me some pow-pow-pows. Boy, that needs to be on a t-shirt somewhere. Anyway, keep it in. All right, so next we're gonna get into our interview with our guest, my dad Ed Nunn.Ade: We're back. Welcome to this portion of the show called the interview section. Y'all know how we go. So today we have the wonderful, wonderful, wonderful Mr. Ed Nunn with us.[Sound Man throws in cheers]Ade: Ed, welcome to the show.Ed: Thank you. Appreciate it, Ade. Ade: Most certainly. So for those of us who don't know you, do you mind sharing a bit of your background? Tell us a bit about yourself.Ed: I'm 53 years old, Midwesterner. Right now I'm married, living in--outside of St. Paul. Five children. One of them happens to be one of your colleagues, Zach Nunn.Ade: Yeah, yeah.Ed: His siblings are a bit younger. We have a dog. My mother-in-law lives with us here in the suburbs. Ade: Okay. I love dogs, so I'm not gonna, like, go down that line of inquiry 'cause I'm gonna sit up here all day talking to you about your dog. But that sounds wonderful. It sounds like you have a nice, cozy life with a nice, cozy family, which is something I definitely aspire to, but today we're talking a little bit about professional reinvention, kind of remaking your career, which is something that's near and dear to my heart, and the path to getting there. You mind walking us through your own 33-year journey to being who you are now?Ed: Mm-hmm. You know what? When you put it that way, there's a--I look back, and I think about it, and I haven't really thought about it until you put it that way. 33 years.Ade: [laughs] Right.Ed: You know, I recall when I first went to college I had an academic scholarship to Jackson State University, and I recall going to college, and honor student and all that stuff, and my mom had talked to me--you know, I remember taking these trips with my mom and dad and the family to Saint Louis and Mississippi and California, and every time we'd go some place, you know, she'd talk about these roads and these build--I'm sorry, these bridges, and she said, "You know, son, you can be an engineer. You could build these. You could design these." My mom and dad weren't--were not educated, didn't graduate high school, but their aspiration was of course for all of us to do much more, much greater things, and they poured a lot of expectations and resources, time, and love and all of that into us to do that. So I went to school and I was gonna be an engineer. Not a civil engineer, I decided I'd try my hand at being a mechanical engineer and found out that I didn't like engineering. [laughs] So instead of--'cause I went to Jackson State, transferred to Mississippi State, went back to Jackson State and finished up my math degree. So I graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Mathematics, and I said, "Okay, now I'm out. Now what do I do with that?" Thought about being a teacher, tried my hand at teaching mathematics high school for a couple of years, realized I didn't like that. Left that and went into working as a recruiter for a liberal arts college in the Midwest. Left that and became a stockbroker. Really, really changed gears there because we--at that time I was married, and we decided to leave the Quad City area. When I got out of mathematics and moved back home to the Quad Cities I started the recruitment for the liberal arts college, became a stockbroker and wanted to leave the Quad Cities just to--the idea of having a family and being able to raise a family in a more cosmopolitan, diverse--you name it. You can put anything you want, it wasn't the Quad Cities.Ade: Right. The stakes were different.Ed: Well, yeah. It was just different, right, and so we decided to go to Minneapolis, the Minneapolis area, and got up to the Minneapolis area and realized I didn't really want to start all over again building a book of business after three or four years of doing it in the Quad Cities, so I started working in the field of pharmaceutical sales. Left pharmaceutical sales, went into selling copiers and printing and multi-function devices. Left that and went into--well, previously I went to telecommunications, then to--no, I'm sorry, it was telecommunications after selling printers, and then I found myself at a point where I was just kind of burnt out, you know? I'm hopping from place to place, industry to industry, and not really finding what I'm looking for. It was okay for a little while, get bored. Literally get bored of it, and I took a break, flat out took a break. There was a place where the pharmaceutical industry dried up. A lot of reps--the companies were downsizing, and I recall--I recall talking to my wife and saying, "You know what? I'm tired of this." It really wasn't sales, it was walking in and, you know, pop-up ads all you were. You weren't having an opportunity to have a discussion with people around their needs and how to solve them.Ade: Right.Ed: So I took a break, and I just started my own little deal. I got involved with some guys that had an investment idea, and we formed a company and started--we're manufacturing, with some partners in Asia, some technology, and then we have formed a company to actually--a separate company aside from our investment. We were going to import it and start selling it to resellers, and I did that for a couple years, and it was good. I enjoyed it. We saw some growth, my partner and I did. That went awry because the original investor group kind of--they were at odds with each other, and there were some issues that came about, and so that kind of blew up on that side, which it then kind of obviously cratered the business that we had importing the product and trying to sell it to the resellers. And so there I am again thinking, "Okay, great, now what?" So as I sat there, you know, I recall a couple of weeks just saying, "Okay, what am I gonna do? What do I want to do?" I got a phone call, and this was the beginning of what I've been doing for the last few years of my life. I got a phone call from a hospice company, and they--I picked the phone up and the lady said, "Hey, you know, I'm looking for Ed Nunn." Said, "This is he." "Hey, Ed, I'm So-and-so from, you know, so-and-so hospice. Have you ever thought about hospice?" I said, "No." "Would you like to?" I said, "No." [laughs] "What I know about hospice is death. I--you know, I'm not there yet. I'm not ready to talk about it, I'm not ready to experience it, so I'm not really interested. Thank you very much." "Well, just keep my name, and if you ever change your mind please call," you know? "We got your name from So-and-so and we'd like to talk to you." "Okay, thanks. Goodbye." I hung that up, and my wife said, "Who was that?" So I told her. She says, "You know, you may want to think about that." I said, "Sheila, I thought about it. No thank you."Ade: Right.Ed: But I gave it a little more thought. I don't know what happened, but I gave it some thought. I didn't have anything else lined up necessarily. I didn't have anything in my mind I wanted to do, and, you know, after I thought about it, there's got to be more to hospice than just death. I mean, it's something we're all gonna do is what I recall thinking, and I end up wanting to find out more about it. So a couple days have passed. I pick the phone up and call the lady back, and, you know, a couple, three, four weeks later, I find myself hired by this company, which at the time was one of the largest, if not the largest home health care company. It was a large company. 60,000 employees here in the states. For what they did, they were a big company. And so I found myself in the world of--still in health care, but now in hospice, and I've been in hospice ever since. And that was 2012, I believe. So for the last six years I've been in hospice, working for three different hospice companies. The third one, you know, actually was purchased, and they decided to shut down a third of their operations in the country to kind of get control of five different platforms. It was just spread out too far, and they chose to shut down the two offices I was running here in Minnesota as well as the other 25 to 30 they shut down. And so I got tired of doing hospice for others, and I opened my own hospice company, and so right now I own part of a hospice company, and I'm still working for yet another one, doing sales and marketing for them here in the Twin Cities area. So that's me.Ade: Wow. So first of all, I want to take a break. [laughs] I want to, like, sit back and be like, "That was a whole lot," and I feel like I've earned it, but yeah, it sounds like you've gone through a process of constant reinvention and experiences that have built one upon the other. Not necessarily a 1:1 correlation there, but it does sound like you've had a wealth of experiences. Have any of them really stuck with you, or any feedback that you've gotten from the people around you, have those stuck with you to the extent that you've utilized those thoughts or you've utilized that process in other areas of your life, maybe in building your previous companies or in building this one?Ed: Yes. As a matter of fact, the very first time I stepped out into the world of commission-based earning versus, you know, an hourly salary or some hourly pay rather versus salary, just doing it on commission. The very first thing I heard was from my father, and he told me, "What are you doing? You need to get you a job that pays you a solid hourly rate and will just--" "You can pay your bills, and--what are you talking about, commission? You don't know what you're gonna make," and he didn't care that it was a--that I had just been interviewed and I was the first person of color in the Quad Cities to actually have a Series 7 to be a licensed stockbroker with the company that I was working with, and they had been there in one form or another--for 93 years been around, and he didn't care. That wasn't a focus. He was--you know, my father grew up John Deere and forging metal and grinding it and that kind of thing. He's like, "Better get you a job." [laughs] And so that experience, his objection to it, was so strong. I'll never forget it. I'm thinking, "You know what? You may be right, but I'm gonna try this," and it was the best thing I ever did, and I always go back to that thinking no--you really have to have faith in yourself and the things you do, and if you really are passionate about it and--you just have to believe in it and go for it, and I'll never forget that. As the first thing--the first time I tried to do something outside the realm of what my parents had kind of modeled for me, that was the one thing that--it stuck out, like, "Wow, okay. I'm out here by myself now." "You're on your own." But yeah, that one stuck out with me because--I kept that mindset. It was uncomfortable, Ade. It was very uncomfortable going from a known, you know, to the unknown in terms of my pay because yeah, you know, I had a house, you know? All these things you're doing and you need to pay for, and all of a sudden--*claps*--you know? You know, when they first start you out as a broker, you know--I started out, and they give you a pay, rather a salary, and wean you off of it, and the goal is to be a year, a year and a half or so, that you're 100% commission-based. Well, after the first three months, I was doing enough in commissions--my commissions far exceeded my salary, so after three months I said, "You know what? You keep your salary. I'll just go commission here on in," and it was the best thing I ever did. And so I look back and think about the fact that had I not done that, had I not gone through that, had I not weathered the storm of my father telling me not to do it and going ahead and doing it, I wouldn't have ventured out and done some of the things I've done in the last few years.Ade: Right. And you've kind of touched on it, but I do wanna backtrack and get, like, an explicit conversation about the motivation behind a few of these shifts. So you mentioned that a few of them were by necessity, but you made some jumps and you made some decisions that weren't necessarily necessities, they were just you making decisions based off of your own motivations 'cause you speak to those.Ed: Well, I've always found it odd that when someone would look at my resume, and this was--you know, I'm 53 now, so when I was in my mid-30s someone would look at my resume--'cause there was a time when, and I didn't mention this, my wife and I actually went to Japan for a couple of years and taught English. We just--we stopped it all and said, "You know what? We don't have kids. Before we go, we're just gonna go." To get started we're just gonna go to Japan, and we're gonna start and teach for a while and get an experience, but when you get back and you sit down with folks and they look at your resume, and they're looking for--you know, they're looking for [inaudible], right? Whatever that [inaudible] is, that's what they're looking for. I've got widgets over here. All I've got is widgets. Now, some of mine are yellow, some are green, but I don't have [inaudible], and I'm thinking, "Why are you looking for that? Why don't you look--and I know that you're looking for something in terms of what you're trying to do for this position. You want these qualities you want this person to fill, and they've got this list, but I--and they're trying to, you know, jam me into that, or jam anybody into it, and what I realized was that after a while--for a while [inaudible] I was frustrated because I didn't have [inaudible] and I didn't fit the mold because I didn't stay nine years here, I didn't stay five years there, and the older I got, the more experience I got, the more I realized that's fine, it just wasn't a fit. But while I was going through it it was frustrating, and so the decisions that I made to move, at first they were very uncomfortable when I was--you know, I'd move. I'd want to do something. It was intentional. I didn't like what I was doing, and my thought was "Why stay here? Just because I don't fit this mold I have to stay until I fit this mold? Who tells me--and when is it okay to move because I'm miserable here? How long do I stay here and be miserable so I can do another move here?" And I realized, "No, that's just not gonna work. If that's not a fit because of me moving, well, then that's not a fit, and I'll just keep moving." What I came to realize in the end was I wasn't going to be happy getting a job somewhere necessarily. It's gonna have to be something--and I know a lot of folks come to it on their own. It took me a while to get to it, you know, get to the fact that it was okay, it was okay to not be comfortable. It was okay to not fit the mold, and it was okay to go and make your own money your own way, and if you stumbled along the way, you didn't make all the money you thought you were gonna make, and whatever that stuff was in the middle that I was kind of, you know, letting get in my way, that was okay too because the goal was to kind of, you know, be true to myself, and I know it sounds kind of cliche, but I really was trying to find something that I didn't have, and so it was okay getting through all that to get to, you know, trying to be happy with what I was initially rather going to wind up with, which was a journey in terms of just feeling like I was accomplishing something, you know? For me and myself, because I tell my kids all the time, Ade, and I know I kinda strayed here, but I tell my kids all the time that my life is--my life, I identify myself by my family. I'm only doing what I'm doing because of them in terms of trying to provide for them, but if I'm not happy doing it then they're in trouble because I'm--[laughs] They're in trouble, so that being the case I need to be happy while I'm trying to provide and give them the things that I really want them to have just like my folks did for me.Ade: Right. Yeah, so, you know, I think a lot about the current trajectory for a lot of my friends, or for even me myself, and just thinking about how people map their three-year plan, their five-year plan, their seven-year plan, their ten-year plan, I think a lot of it is based in that community where it's [inaudible]. Ed: [inaudible]. [laughs]Ade: [inaudible], yes. It makes me think of, like, my dog chewing on my shoes or something. Now I'm scared that he's chewing on my shoes downstairs. [laughs] But anyway, I've noticed that for a lot of my cohorts, we rely on that continuity and will even, like, rewrite resumes, and we'll just, like, try to shave the edges off of the square peg to fit in a round hole. And it sounds very much that you were like, "Nope, the square peg is still the square peg," and so that process for you, do you have any advice for anybody who's navigating that current trajectory on their own, such as myself? How we should go about it, just kind of presenting your experiences and how that might--and how your experiences might help us or edify us in any way.Ed: You know what? The first thing first and foremost is get comfortable with the idea of being very uncomfortable.Ade: Yikes. [laughs]Ed: I mean, you know, you've heard the--you know, those adages, and you've heard, you know, "If you want to succeed," you know, "you're either burning the bridge or burning the boat that got you there," so you're stuck there, those kinds of things. You know, that's true. You--I'm not saying you burn your, you know, your contacts and you burn people, but in your mind you have to just get used to the fact that "Wow, I just did something that--" "Oh, okay. I let that go," and you have to be comfortable letting it go and not going back to it. You let it go for a reason, and you get--you know, sometimes you can get a--you know, you get afraid of where you're going 'cause you're not quite sure and you kind of want to hold onto some things, but I would tell you that number one, get very comfortable being uncomfortable. Number two, I would say that you're going to--even if you have that mindset, some of those personality traits--you know, the gambler type of personality.Ade: [laughs]Ed: Seriously, you know, that doesn't mean that the gambler is 100% certain of themselves, but just know that--[laughs]--when you make that call, you're gonna fall. You really are, but that doesn't mean you made the wrong call. Be comfortable, you know, with being uncomfortable. Know that you're gonna fall down along the way, but you have to stay true. You really have to have faith in what you've chosen and faith in yourself because I'm telling you this much, if you put yourself out there and you don't have this privileged mindset, you will make it happen for yourself. I can guarantee you. If you sincerely understand that--the mindset that, "You know what? I don't know what this problem--I don't know how to solve this one, but I will figure it out. I'll use my resources. I'll call some friends. I'll have these conversations." You do what you have to do. You talk to folks, and it'll come to you, but you have to know that when you put yourself out there it's gonna be challenging, but if you have serious faith in what you're doing--and if you don't panic, overly panic...Ade: So panicking a little bit is fine. [laughs]Ed: [laughs] It's fine. You're gonna panic a little bit, because, you know, there are times when I might need a good chunk of change to do something I'm working to do. I've got a few projects now I'm working on that have nothing to do with my employer, they have nothing to do with, you know, my children right now. They have a sibling band, and they have--you know, they're actually doing pretty good. They're starting to get going a little bit. They're actually featured on this season's America's Got Talent and that kind of stuff. Not featured, but they're actually gonna be on the show. I can say that because I was told I could. Ade: [laughs] I'm looking forward to rooting for them.Ed: Pardon me?Ade: I said I'm looking forward to rooting for them.Ed: Oh, I appreciate it, and I'm sure they would too, but I've got another project I'm working on that I've been working on for five years, and there are times I--you know, you have a money crunch. If you need--you know, and I'm not a rich guy, so if I need 30, 40, $50,000, or even $10,000, and I need it next week and I don't have it, you have to start being creative. "How am I getting this money up?" You know, I'm not looking to go borrow money and go into debt, and so you just have some faith that you'll figure it out. And, you know, you do. You really do if your mindset--if you condition yourself to knowing that, "Okay, I'm gonna hit some things that I don't know how to handle. I'm gonna hit some snags. Don't panic overly so. Just go ahead and--" You know, 'cause there's a process to it, and typically my process has been to put different things in play so I have different areas or different things I can go back to to help me out.Ade: Right, so basically having a backup plan.Ed: Well, not just a backup plan. I'm talking multiple things that are going on at once. You know, the idea of having just one source of income scares the snot out of me. I don't know how folks do that. They have one job, and I look at that and think, "You're one management change away from twiddling your thumbs," and I'm thinking, "How do you navigate that?" And I realize you might have your--a year worth of savings, or two years worth of savings, or whatever you've got in your savings 401K to survive and why you--but why do it that way? Well, you know what, if that's what you want to do, great. My thought is just--I don't see it that way. I just like to have a little bit more control.Ade: Sure, yeah. Yeah. So I'm definitely gonna be looking into other streams of income now because you just dragged me by my edges just then.Ed: That wasn't the intent. That wasn't the intent, but--Ade: Look, I take it with all the love and the good sentiments behind that one. [laughs]Ed: [laughs] Well, no. I mean, and it's not anything that's--there's nothing elaborate, you know? Real estate, you know? For 20 something years I've owned real estate, you know? From several houses and/or multi-unit buildings to individual, you know, houses, but that stuff, for the last 20 something years, has kept me afloat, and it gave me the opportunity to make the choices and say, "You know what? I don't want to do that." You know, right now I have a project where I'm building these--I build these quarter-scale cars, and these things are--these are, like, four feet long, and they're huge, and they're quarter-scale. I mean, these things are 50 pounds maybe. They have their functioning engines, whether the engines be eight-cylinder gasoline engines or nitromethane engines. They have working lights, doors, you name it. They're actually scale cars. These things sell for about--you know, they sell for a lot of money, so that's something I do on the side as well. Just a lot of different things going on that help as you want to make a change, and they also take up your time, but they're a part of the plan, because the plan for me has always been--I go back to what I'm doing this for. It's just to make sure I get this group of people through this to a point where they can, on their own, start navigating. That's my purpose. That's my plan. That's all I'm here to do right now. That's it, and so I'm taking everything I can with me that I'm using to do just that, period the end. Ade: That's brilliant. I think that it's important, you know, the thought you just elucidated, that it's great and it's a good idea to reinvent yourself, but you also should have something to fall back on while you do that because it's a good thing to take the leap of faith, but you should have a parachute.Ed: Oh, certainly. Well, if you don't, it's a hard, rough landing. [laughs] I've been there too.Ade: [laughs] Right. But yeah, I mean, thank goodness for, you know, parachutes because every once in a while taking that step of faith is just kind of like, "I don't know. That's a mighty long way down."Ed: But you know, you guys, you're much younger. I mean, I look at--I look at you and Zach and, you know, folks your age, and I say, "Wow, you don't have to worry about that nonsense, someone looking at your resume saying, "Gee, you know, you were only here for two years. You were only here for three years."" Ade: Right.Ed: You know, that's not a question that people are posing. That's not even a mindset anymore. Well, you know, 30 years ago it certainly was. The idea of stability was--it was different, and I look at that flexibility that you have to--you know, to shape yourselves, your careers, your destinies. I think you have--I think you have more flexibility. I think you--there's an opportunity, a greater one, a much more easy opportunity to do just that than I had. So I think that's really cool.Ade: Yeah, I really like that. I think those were all the questions that we have today. Are there any thoughts that you would like to share that we haven't gotten to? Anything that you really think would benefit us? Ed: I guess--let me ask you a question.Ade: Sure.Ed: Education-wise.Ade: Yeah.Ed: What is your education?Ade: I have a B.A. in political science and legal studies. I think I had a minor's in philosophy. I really wanted to go to law school at the time, and then I began a master's in sociology, the focus being [inaudible] science, but I never completed my master's, and I'm now working on a front-end nanodegree at Udacity. It's a Google scholarship that allows people to kind of learn programming skills, which is what I'm interested in. So I really, really, really, really, really want to become a software engineer. That's my eventual goal. I want to build my own apps, but I also want to work at--not a Google or a Facebook. I think those are way too large for my personality type. Maybe eventually. Right now, I definitely want to work at more of a mid-sized company where I get the mentorship that I'm really looking for and ownership of my products, honestly so I can be outchea. [laughs] No, I'm kidding. I mean, that is it a little bit. I think that--I think that I'm really invested in a bit of freedom, and most of the software engineers that I know and most of the jobs that I look at are like, "Oh, yeah, you can work 90% of the time remote," which to me means, you know, I can spend a solid 90% of my time coding on beaches, which I know you don't know much about me, but I'm very much a water person, so the idea of being able to do something that I enjoy in a place I enjoy really, really appeals to me. So I have that freedom, and my whole life isn't sitting behind a desk somewhere.Ed: So if I'm not mistaken, what I'm hearing you say is that this education you're pursuing, you're doing so in order to gain some freedom in life and control.Ade: Yeah.Ed: Okay. If you didn't have to work, what would you be doing?Ade: If I didn't have to work, I would own a restaurant. Ed: You don't think that's work?Ade: No. [laughs] It's funny. I actually don't know if we'll keep all of this in the conversation. I don't know. Where is this going? Ed: [laughs] I'm asking the question 'cause you asked me--I'm getting somewhere. I'm going somewhere.Ade: Okay, okay. If I didn't have to work, I would have a restaurant. I actually have a book of recipe ideas and meals that I want to cook. The idea is to have a restaurant that is diasporic, so all of the food in the restaurant would from the African diaspora, from West African, East African-inspired meals to the Caribbeans to Latin America and meals that are typically in Afro-Latino homes. Just everything that brings us together as one community. I'm very much a community-oriented person, and I think that--to me, one of the most beautiful things about the diaspora is how similar but different food is, and Anthony Bourdain, who was, like, one of the, like, biggest influences for my love of food and cooking and people, had this thing where he talked about food being the center of humanity. Like, once you talk about a people's food, you're talking about people. So culture is built on that, and I could wax poetic about this all day, but essentially I'd be cooking. I'd own a kitchen or a food truck or a series of them and just feed people, 'cause I'm African and that's what we like doing. [laughs]Ed: So here's my question to you, and I mean, it's--you know, I listen to you talk, and the last couple of minutes have been real talk from you. It's been--I can tell it in your tone. I can tell from the fact that you have this knowledge about, this breath and this passion about it. I marvel at that because I'm wondering, "Okay, so how many of these changes are you gonna take yourself through before you say, "You know what? I'm ready for that change now.""Ade: Yikes. [laugh]Ed: Because I have a couple things that I'd like to do for me, and I'm 53, and I'm working towards them. One of them I've already started, with these cars. It's a passion. I love cars, and I like the idea of control or whatever. You know, life is extremely obviously random, but however you can eliminate some of that randomness--but that's one of the things I want to do. It's just taken a long time to get here. Dealing with my family, working with my family and having my kids and my wife around, that's something that I've always wanted to and I hold dear to. So the idea of working with them with their music career right now, that's really big for me, but it's taken a long time to get there. Some of that--well, I didn't have a family, you know, 30 years ago like this, but to get to something I really love--you already knew it, or know it rather. I didn't know 'til I got here. You already have something that is really, really dear and tender, and I'm listening to you talk about this nano this and this MBA that and this wizzy-wazzy this, and it was just interesting, and then when you started talking about the food I'm thinking, "Okay, this is real for her," and I'm just wondering: What are you gonna do, and when are you gonna decide to do that?Ade: It's funny that you ask because my partner is a tax lawyer, and her thing is constantly, like, "We need to get a food truck for you,", right? [laughs] And so I think that it's definitely something I want to work towards within the next five or so ten--five to ten years because I think that for me it's the security of the job, because, for example, I kind of provide for my family as well, and it's difficult for me to take a leap of faith with, like, a mini-parachute on my back when I know that, like, there are people who are relying on me to not break my legs on the way down, you know? So that's always--that's the fear. So there's the passion behind the cooking, right? And it's like--I'm definitely not gonna die without putting at least a plate in front of somebody's face and like, anticipating the look on their face when they eat it, right? But I also know that the amount that I have to lose right now is keeping me--is what's keeping me from it. So I think that the process of reinvention for me has to start from a place of absolute commitment, not a place of one foot in the commitment and one foot in the fear ,if that makes any sense. Yeah. Fingers crossed, man. [laughs]Ed: [laughs] Well, I just--I'm looking forward to hearing your story later when both feet, you know, finally land on the commitment side, and I'm wondering if it'll be the--you know, the pain to change was less than the pain to stay the same is what they say, right? So I'm just wondering what's your motivation, what actually gets you to that point? I realize you've got other things, that your people are depending on you. I got that. Hey, I got the same thing, and it's always interesting to hear what people's story is, what their story is, because I've gone through it too. So I'll be looking to hear the end of this one.Ade: Most definitely, and I'm looking forward to, like, feeding you at some point. [laughs] Putting a plate on your table, and hopefully I've written, like, my own e-commerce platform or something of the sort, so merging those two loves.Ed: Well, I've got to tell you this. I've listened to you guys with this Living Corporate, and I was--I've got some friends who listen to it too, and we marvel at it because--Ade: Really?Ed: Yes, yes. I think it's--I think it's relevant. My wife thinks it's extremely cool, because I think you guys have hit upon something.Ade: Thank you.Ed: Well, we think you've hit upon something because, you know, the idea of this--it's one thing to acknowledge, it's another to accept. And, you know, what you're doing is not new with respect to wanting, you know, this acceptance, not just acknowledgement in Corporate America for different peoples. But you guys have been able to reach beyond walls of these companies and connect it with this technology and have this conversation. And, you know, I've been at different companies, large companies, you know? A lot of them. You know, Xerox, Lilly. Some big companies, and within the walls, yeah, there's a lot of acknowledgement of different groups of people, and these different groups are formed, and they can have a platform of some sort, but typically in the past my experience has always been it's been a pat on the head, right? "Yeah, that's nice. That's nice. You guys go over there in the corner and talk, and I'll take it back to the board, and that'll be that." [inaudible] "I'll take this report that you guys had a meeting back too. That'll be nice," but you guys have decided that "No, we're not gonna center it in one particular place. We're just gonna put it out here for everybody," and you've taken this technology and taken this conversation to a different level, and it's so relevant. It's because it's now something that isn't confined to somebody's little bitty, you know, pat on the head from the corporate leadership. No, this is real, and we get to talk about this stuff, and we need to talk about it. And so I look at Living Corporate and say, "My God, that's a really cool idea. Man, they--talk about hitting on something that makes sense," and I enjoy listening to it. I enjoy listening to you guys. Your platform, the way you guys put it together, the music, the artwork - it's cool.Ade: Thank you. I really appreciate that it's making this much of an impact, and we've certainly been getting, you know, great feedback from people, and we really appreciate all of those things. So before we close out, do you have any final thoughts, anything that you'd like to share? Any shout outs you'd like to give? Whatever. The floor is yours.Ed: A big shout out to NUNNABOVE. That's the musical group that Zach's siblings have formed. They've been together for a few years doing their music together. They're young, they're young, but I ask that you check 'em out on America's Got Talent and support 'em, and a big shout out to my wife. She doesn't know that I'm gonna shout her out here, put her out here, but, you know, I mentioned--I mentioned all that changing and all those decisions I made to do different things to support my family. Without my wife there to be the support, it wouldn't have been able to be accomplished. I couldn't have--I couldn't have made the decisions and actually made them work without her. Not someone like her, but her here taking care of the things that needed to be taken care of in--you know, within the walls necessarily when I'm out trying out to figure out and knock down--you know, figure out a new path, knock down trees and break up big rocks. It makes it easier if you've got someone that can--that can do that for you. So a big, big, big shout out to her, big shout out to you guys, and seriously, I know that I don't need to do that 'cause you guys are--it's your show, but I'm just very proud of the fact that he's part of this effort that you guys are bringing forth.Ade: Thank you. Thank you very much, and I'm definitely gonna, like, hit him up like, "Your dad is the coolest ever." I did tell him that you were dragging me though. I informed him.Ed: That I was what? I was what?Ade: That you were dragging me. Like, you spent a solid chunk of our conversation today just, like, tugging on my wig all the way through. [laughs]Ed: [laughs] Well, it wasn't intentional. I just--but I do appreciate it, and you guys--I love the website. I was telling Zach there's some things that you guys are doing, the fact you got some pictures, and the way you guys have set it up, and I love the fonts. I love just the look and appeal of it. This is a really slick--I love the sound of it. When I listen to it, it makes you--it makes you want to listen. You want to engage. Like, "Okay, what did he say? Let me back that up. What did [inaudible] say? What? Oh, that was pretty cool." Ade: [laughs] Okay, I have appreciated the full length of this conversation. I am telling Zach about how amazing all of this is and how we're probably gonna have to put this on our Patreon 'cause people can't get this one for free. Thank you for your wisdom. Thank you.Ed: Thanks, Ade.Zach: And we're back. Hey, Ade. That was a great interview. I really enjoyed that. The themes that kept popping up to me during your conversation were intentionality, comfort with being uncomfortable, and courage. It was really good.Ade: Uh... so I'm confused. Ed, why are you here? We're in the wrap session of the show. You can go now.Zach: Oh, you got jokes.Ade: Yeah, actually. Yes, I do. [laughs]Zach: [laughs]Ade: 'Cause y'all sound exactly alike. It is so weird.Zach: We do sound alike, which is why I knew we couldn't be interviewing, like, together. Like, I couldn't interview him. It would sound like I was having a conversation with myself.Ade: Facts.Zach: But eeriness of that aside, I love the fact that he was able to be on the show. He and I, we have these discussions all the time, and he's really the reason I'm so comfortable trying new things.Ade: Yeah. I mean, I definitely got that sense from him. During our interview, I was taken aback, and dragged, quite a few times at just how fearless he seemed to be. He made so many different transitions and changes and jumps and leaps of faith over the course of his professional career. It was actually kind of scary. Zach: Yeah. I know, right?Ade: But, like, at the same time, I think I learned that your plan doesn't need to make sense to anybody but you, right? 'Cause you're the one living your life, and--I mean, when he was talking about his parents discouraging his shifts and those transitions, I could definitely really--'cause, you know, you can't explain your plans to everybody. Sometimes people side-eye you like, "Sis, you sure?"Zach: Right, and it's all about like my dad said, following your passions and going for what you feel is right. I mean, we're here right now doing Living Corporate and embracing discomfort and uncertainty. High risk for sure, but great rewards.Ade: No, I definitely agree, and it's also interesting that your dad was definitely job-hopping and forging his own path way before it was trendy, like millennial trendy.Zach: Right, and, you know, he really wasn't wrong then, and he isn't wrong now. I mean, look, if you look at this 2014 article from Forbes, it says that employees who stay in companies longer than two years get paid 50% less, and I know there's more value than just your paycheck, but also there's value in being bold and taking control of what you need to get where you believe you need to be.Ade: Right. So honestly, I'm excited for us to drop the extended interview on our Patreon. By the way, Sound Man, give me some slow jams real quick while I hit them with the super ASMR voice. Guys, check out our Patreon. You want more content, right? You want exclusive stuff? You want giveaways? You want to hang out with the Living Corporate team? I know you do, so go ahead and go join our Patreon. The link will be in the show note. Thank you.Zach: Oh, my God. [laughs]Ade: [laughs]Zach: Oh, my goodness. (laughing) Anyway, major shout out to Ed, my dad, and I hope he can join us again soon. Let's get into our next segment, okay? Favorite Things, where we talk about what our favorite things are these days.Ade: Yep. My favorite things right now are--I'm really into Miguel. I have been listening to some of my favorite Miguel songs lately non-stop. Candles in the Sun is, like, top 5, top 5, top 5 of all my favorite songs. So I've been really into his entire discography, and I've also been really into hiking. So I have a puppy, and he's a husky, and he needs a lot of, like, physical activity, and I'm training for this marathon, and just being able to get out and really be active and get outside and kind of commune with nature and exercise my hippie-dippie side has been really, really fun. Hurts sometimes 'cause my knees like, "Sis, we're getting way too old for this," but it's been--it's been really great. What about you?Zach: That's really cool. So my favorite thing right now has to be my sibling's band, keeping with the family theme of the show.Ade: Right. Why didn't you tell me you have whole rock stars in, like, your family? Like, bro, what?Zach: I know, right? And so I don't know--like, by the time this episode releases if we'll already have seen them on America's Got Talent, but yeah, I'm really, really proud of them. I love them. They're great, but yeah, so they're called NUNNABOVE. They do funk, pop--Ade: Yes.Zach: Yeah. Like, my oldest sister--my oldest little sister Cadence, she's 18, and she plays the bass and she does lead vocals, and then my second-youngest sister is Maddie, and she does keys and vocals. And then my oldest little brother Bennett plays guitar, and he also does vocals, and then my littlest sibling, my little brother Wisdom, plays drum set, and they're all great. Like, they're super talented, really cute. I love 'em. They're awesome.Ade: I want you to know that this is a setup. They had no choice but to be rock stars with names like that. Cadence? Cadence?Zach: (laughing) Yeah, Cadence.Ade: Your dad knew what he was doing. See? Setup.Zach: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Strategist, strategist. And so what we'll do is we'll make sure to put their information in the show notes so you guys can check them out as well, and yeah, we'll make sure to link all that up.Ade: Awesome. And as a reminder, to see all of our Favorite Things, go to our website at living-corporate.com and click on Faves. And that's our show. Thank you for joining us on the Living Corporate podcast. Make sure to follow us on Instagram at LivingCorporate, Twitter at LivingCorp_Pod, and subscribe to our newsletter through living-corporate.com. If you have a question you'd like us to answer and read on the show, make sure you email us at livingcorporatepodcast@gmail.com. Also, don't forget to check out our Patreon at LivingCorporate as well. And that does it for us on the show. My name is Ade.Zach: And this has been Zach.Ade and Zach: Peace.Kiara: Living Corporate is a podcast by Living Corporate, LLC. Our logo was designed by David Dawkins. Our theme music was produced by Ken Brown. Additional music production by Antoine Franklin from Musical Elevation. Post-production is handled by Jeremy Jackson. Got a topic suggestion? Email us at livingcorporatepodcast@gmail.com. You can find us online on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and living-corporate.com. Thanks for listening. Stay tuned.

Today's Clown of the Day had nothing else better to do, so they decided to throw hella fake $100 bills on a busy Northern California street...It all happened on El Dorado Hills Boulevard in El Dorado Hills is located about 22 miles east of Sacramento. On Saturday, the Sheriff's Office posted on Facebook that people had wandered into the "50 mph+ traffic to collect them.""Please be cautious when accepting large bills as criminals might attempt to pass them even if they're clearly fake. Creating, possessing, and passing fraudulent bills is a crime investigated by EDSO and the US Secret Service," the Sheriff's Office said in the post.

Today's Clown of the Day had nothing else better to do, so they decided to throw hella fake $100 bills on a busy Northern California street...It all happened on El Dorado Hills Boulevard in El Dorado Hills is located about 22 miles east of Sacramento. On Saturday, the Sheriff's Office posted on Facebook that people had wandered into the "50 mph+ traffic to collect them.""Please be cautious when accepting large bills as criminals might attempt to pass them even if they're clearly fake. Creating, possessing, and passing fraudulent bills is a crime investigated by EDSO and the US Secret Service," the Sheriff's Office said in the post.

Technological developments are reshaping the energy sector. This is all the more true for electricity distribution grids, where the increasing penetration of distributed renewable generation, local storage and electric vehicles will eventually change the way people approach their daily city lives: passive consumers will become active prosumers, who could directly influence network balancing and electricity trade. How far is this future? Innovative policies are needed to foster innovation while, at the same time, smart regulation will have to cope with the changing roles of DSOs and TSOs, in order to let all stakeholders benefit from this revolution. Join the FSR online debate between Ana Aguado, Secretary General at EDSO for Smart Grids, and Astrid Brunt, General Counsel at the Norwegian TSO Statnett. The debate will be chaired by Leigh Hancher, Director of the EU Energy Law and Policy Area at the Florence School of Regulation, Professor of European Law at the University of Tilburg, and of Counsel at the Amsterdam office of Allen & Overy.

Raidījumā runājam par to, kā mūsdienās bruņotajos konfliktos  karojošās puses savu mērķu sasniegšanai izmanto medijus un žurnālistus pret viņu pašu gribu. Objektīva informācijas sniegšana kļuvusi dzīvībai bīstama. Viesis studijā: LTV žurnāliste Judīte Čunka. Atskatā par aizgājušo nedēļu informēsim par Ukrainas separātistu vēlēšanām un diskusijām ap tām, arī par Krievijai noteikto sankciju mīkstināšanas termiņiem. Mediju brīvība „ar nocirstu galvu”: Ukraina, Sīrija Ēģipte Žurnālists var būt itin bīstama profesija. Organizācija "Žurnālisti bez robežām" ziņo, ka šogad pasaulē bojā gājuši 56 žurnālisti, kuru nāve bijusi saistīta ar viņa darba pienākumiem. Savukārt cietumā esošais Pēteris Greste ir viens no 177 žurnālistiem, kuri tur nonākuši sava darba rezultātā. Vēstures dati liecina, ka Pirmajā pasaules karā bojā gāja tikai divi reportieri, bet pēdējos 20 gados gandrīz katru nedēļu kāds žurnālists zaudē dzīvību. Judīte Čunka atzīst, ka šobrīd visbīstamākā vieta, kur arī strādā Latvijas žurnālisti, ir tieši Ukraina, jo frontes līnija ir visai draudīga žurnālistiem. Otra vieta, protams, ir Sīrija, kur arī strādā Latvijas televīzijas žurnālisti. Bet piecu dienu karu Gruzijā 2008. gadā augustā viņa min, ka vienas no Latvijas mediju un Latvijas žurnālistu pirmajām ugunskristībām, kur bija tieša saskare ar karadarbību kā tādu. Žurnālistu darbs  „karstajos punktos” pasaulē ir dzīvībai bīstams. Vēl vasaras sākumā kopīgā ziņojumā Eiropas Drošības un sadarbības organizācijas (EDSO) mediju brīvības jautājumu pārstāve Duņa Mijatoviča brīdināja, ka „strauji pasliktinās” situācija mediju darbam Ukrainā.  „Es esmu satraukta par straujo apstākļu un gaisotnes pasliktināšanos mediju darbam. Mediju manipulācijas un informācijas karš, ko mēs pieredzam, ir jāaptur. Nespēja to izdarīt uzkurinās konfliktu un veicinās krīzes eskalāciju. [..] Notiekošie uzbrukumi žurnālistiem nav īpaši tālu no smagiem pamata cilvēktiesību pārkāpumiem,” bilst Duņa Mijatoviča. Mijatoviča paziņoja, ka EDSO kopš pērnā gada novembra dokumentējusi vairāk nekā 300 vardarbības gadījumu pret mediju pārstāvjiem. Tikmēr starptautiskās sabiedrības sašutumu vairo islāmistu brutālās metodes. Vēl vairāk pēc tam, kad augustā un septembrī tīmeklī parādījās video ar galvas nociršanu diviem ASV žurnālistiem, kā arī britu palīdzības misijas līdzstrādniekam. Atsevišķs stāsts būtu veltāms katram no ķīlniekiem. Arī Džonam Kentlijam, ļoti pieredzējušam britu žurnālistam,  kurš strādājis vairākās, par bīstamākajām dēvētās vietās pasaulē – Irākā, Afganistānā, Lībijā un Somālijā. Kentlijs ir veidojis fotoreportāžas „The Sunday Times” un „The Sunday Telegraph”, arī ziņu aģentūra AFP ir lietojusi viņa radītās fotogrāfijas. Bet 2012. gada novembrī Sīrijas un Irākas džihādistu grupējums „Islāma valsts” viņu nolaupīja. Kopš tā brīža viņš ir bijis redzams runājam vairākos „Islāma valsts” izplatītajos videomateriālos. Septembrī publiskotajā video Kentlijs oranžā tērpā (tā džihādisti iezīmē savus ķīlniekus) solīja drīzumā par „Islāma valsti” vēstīt „patiesību”. Nolaupītais žurnālists uzsvēra, ka Lielbritānijas valdība viņu pametusi un arī norādīja, ka „Islāma valsts” straujā izplešanās pārsteigusi snaužam Rietumu valdības. „Rietumi par zemu novērtējuši pretinieka spēku un cīņas sparu. [..] Es zinu, ko jūs domājat. Jūs domājat: viņš tikai dara to kā ieslodzītais. Viņš dabūjis ieroci pie savas galvas, un viņš ir spiests to darīt, ja? Nu, tā ir taisnība. Esmu ieslodzītais, to es nevaru noliegt, bet redzot, ka mana valdība mani ir pametusi un mans liktenis tagad ir „Islāma valsts” rokās, man nav ko zaudēt. Varbūt es dzīvošu, varbūt es miršu, bet es gribu izmantot šo iespēju, lai darītu zināmus faktus – faktus, par kuru patiesumu jūs varat pārliecināties. Es parādīšu jums patiesību par to, kas notika, kad „Islāma valsts” sagūstīja daudzus Eiropas pilsoņus un vēlāk atbrīvoja un kā amerikāņu un britu valdības domāja, ka tās var rīkoties atšķirīgi no Eiropas valstīm.[..] Tās [Eiropas valstis] risināja sarunas ar „Islāma valsti” un panāca, ka viņu cilvēki atgriežas mājās, kamēr briti un amerikāņi tika pamesti,” video sižetā pauž Kentlijs. Video nav redzami „Islāma valsts” kaujinieki un atšķirībā no citiem – pie ķīlnieka galvas netiek turēts ierocis,  un tas nebeidzas ar draudiem. Pagājušajā nedēļā tika publiskoti jauni video ar Džonu Kentliju ziņotāja jeb šķietamas „„Islāma valsts” Rietumu balss” lomā.  Raidsabiedrība BBC video komentējot norādīja, ka Kentlijs, kritizējot Lielbritānijas un ASV nostāju par ķīlnieku sarunām,  lasa, acīmredzot, citu cilvēku sagatavotas ziņas. Lielbritānijas Ārlietu ministrijas pārstāvis sacīja, ka ministrija ir informēta par video un to saturs tiek analizēts. BBC diplomātiskā korespondente Bridžeta Kendala, iztirzājot  jaunāko video, vērtēja, ka  tas ir „ļoti atšķirīgs” no iepriekšējiem un norādīja, ka Džons Kentlijs ziņo „gandrīz tā, it kā viņš būtu tā saukto islāma valsts ekstrēmistu kara reportieris”. Jaunākā video galvenais propagandas vēstījums, šķiet, ir, ka cīņa par Sīrijas pierobežas pilsētu Kobani ir gandrīz beigusies,” skaidroja korespondente.  Turpinot par žurnālistu apdraudētību karstajos pasaules punktos arī mūsu raidījumā informējot  esam pievērsuši uzmanību Ēģiptē ieslodzītā žurnālista, Latvijas un Austrālijas pilsoņa Pētera Grestes lietai. Jau ziņojām par Pētera tēva Jura Grestes bažām par dēla nākotni. Jaunākās vēstis, ko saņēmām e-pasta vēstulē ir šādas: „Ir dzirdēts ka Ēģiptes prezidents al Sisi esot solījis Pēterim sniegt prezidenta piedošanu bet tikai, kad juridiskais process būs beidzies. [..] Sliktākā gadījumā, tas varētu ieilgt vēlu 2015 gadā. [..] Vispasaules ievērojami juristi ir izteikušies ka pirmā prāva bija ļoti kļūdaina un netaisnīga. Pēteris tikai pildīja savu žurnālista pienākumu un uzdevumu. Ievērojamākā kritika ir no Britu tradīcijas juristiem. Kas mūs maldina ir tas, ka Ēģiptē ir Napoleona juridikas mantojums kas, starp citu, dod tiesnešiem lielāku autoritāti kā, piemēram, Austrālijā. Katrā ziņā ļoti ceram ka Pēteris būs brīvs tuvākā nākotnē. Bet, neskatoties uz vairākiem solījumiem mums, nākošos Ziemsvētkus Kairā viņam būs jāpavada neizbēgami”. Ēģipte trīs televīzijas kanāla „Al Jazeera” žurnālistus – latviešu izcelsmes austrāliešu žurnālistu Gresti, angļu redakcijas Kairas biroja vadītāju Fahmijsu un producentu Muhamedu arestēja pērnā gada 29. decembrī vienā no Kairas viesnīcām un  apsūdzēja par „drošības objektu filmēšanu, sabiedriskās kārtības un miera apdraudēšanu un strādāšanu bez atļaujas”. Komentējot absurdo situāciju, kad žurnālisti jūnijā tika tiesāti un saņēma ārkārtīgi bargu sodu, Austrālijas ārlietu ministre Džūlija Bišopa akcentēja šķiet Ēģiptei svešo izpratni par to, kas ir mediju brīvība un demokrātija. „Mēs saprotam, ka Ēģiptē ir ļoti grūti laiki, sarežģīta situācija, un ir bijuši lieli satricinājumi, taču šāda veida spriedums neko labu nedod. Tas norāda, ka Ēģiptē netiek atbalstīta pāreja uz demokrātiju. Austrālijas valdība mudina jauno Ēģiptes valdību pārdomāt, kāda ziņa tiek sūtīta pasaulei par situāciju Ēģiptē. Brīvība un preses brīvība ir būtiska demokrātijas sastāvdaļa. Un mēs esam ļoti nobažījušies, ka šis spriedums ir daļa no plašāka mēģinājuma apklusināt mediju brīvību, kas aizstāv demokrātiju visā pasaulē,” komentē Džūlija Bišopa.