Podcast appearances and mentions of dave gerhardt

#252 Category Creation | Dave is joined by Josh Lowman, Founder and Creative Director of Gold Front, a category design studio that's worked with brands like Uber, Notion, and Qualtrics. Josh is a leading voice in strategic brand positioning and category creation. He's spent over a decade helping high-growth B2B companies define what makes them irreplaceable in crowded markets.Dave and Josh cover:Why most category creation efforts fail (and what to do instead)The four real paths to category leadership: create, transform, niche, or go soloHow B2B marketers can align product, brand, and messaging around a single strategy to stand out and scaleWhether you're launching a new product or repositioning an existing one, this episode is a masterclass in strategic clarity.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (02:38) - – Josh's backstory and founding Gold Front (05:53) - – How Gold Front became a category design studio (08:08) - – What “category creation” really means (11:23) - – Why being irreplaceable is the real goal (14:28) - – The four paths to category leadership (18:13) - – Why Drift didn't succeed in creating a true category (22:08) - – Clay and Notion as category-of-one examples (24:58) - – Marketing vs. actual customer perception (29:34) - – Can Exit Five be more than the “Dave Gerhardt community”? (32:29) - – How to scale brand DNA beyond the founder (35:19) - – Defining Exit Five's ethos as a company (37:39) - – Strategy as a company-wide unifier (40:29) - – Advice for CMOs on driving strategy with CEOs (43:04) - – Why strategy is always the root cause (44:34) - – Vibe marketing and the rise of right-brain thinking (47:19) - – Josh's mental health journey and long-term therapy (50:49) - – LinkedIn, self-worth, and staying grounded (53:19) - – Weightlifting, discipline, and mental clarity (56:19) - – Daily habits that improve mindset (59:34) - – What 30 days of silent meditation does to your brain (01:04:19) - – Final thoughts on presence, self-work, and leadership Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak. Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It's the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That's why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping' the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Peep Laja is joined by Kathleen Booth and Dave Gerhardt to unpack the real buying behavior behind B2B SaaS in 2025. They break down the power of dark social, peer communities, and brand storytelling in an era where Google is no longer the first stop. Learn how to win trust, get talked about, and drive growth—without a single paid ad.Chapters:[00:00:00] Buyers No Longer Start on Google[00:01:00] Dark Social Isn't New[00:02:00] Community Beats Search[00:03:00] Trust Comes From Peers[00:04:00] Why “Dark Social” Caught On[00:05:30] How Real Word-of-Mouth Works[00:06:30] Winning Starts With Being Mentioned[00:07:15] LinkedIn's Real Role in Buying[00:08:30] You Can't Game the System[00:09:30] Influencing the Influencers[00:10:30] Brand and Peer Trust Collide[00:11:30] Build a Narrative, Not Just Features[00:12:30] What to Spend on Community[00:14:00] Create Shareworthy Artifacts[00:15:00] Showing Up Consistently Matters[00:16:30] Case Study: Carabiner Group[00:17:30] Making the ROI Case[00:19:00] Track What Actually Matters[00:20:00] Key Takeaways: How to Win

Episode SummaryTune in as host Paul Gibson sits down with Matthew Creswick, Chief Marketing Officer at Huble Digital, to explore the 95-5 marketing strategy. This insightful episode dives into balancing long-term brand building with capturing in-market demand, the evolving buyer landscape, the role of AI, and how intent data is changing the game for B2B marketers. Whether you're a seasoned pro or new to the field, this episode offers actionable advice and fresh perspectives on marketing strategy.About the GuestMatthew Creswick is an experienced marketing and business leader with over ten years of experience in the HubSpot industry. He has held senior roles, including Regional Managing Director, Chief Marketing Officer, and Chief Product Officer, and has worked across Europe and Southeast Asia.A certified HubSpot trainer with a Bachelor's degree in Business Management with Marketing, Matthew has been featured in Content Grip, the Huble Blog, and HubSpot.com. He is also a member of the CMO club in Exit Five and was recognized as an AMCHAM NextGen 2020 Leader.An active speaker and host, Matthew has presented at GWI Live and hosted multiple GWI virtual events.Beyond work, he enjoys football, golf, technology, and traveling the world.Website: https://huble.com/Connect with MatthewKey Takeaways- Understanding the 95-5 Framework: Focus on being memorable to the 95% not currently buying while effectively converting the 5% in-market.- Modern Buying Behaviors: Buyers prefer independence and typically resist traditional funnel tactics like forms and cold calls.- Power of Intent Data: Leveraging tools like Demandbase empowers marketers to identify accounts actively searching for solutions.- Building a Memorable Brand: Investing in brand equity ensures customers recall you when they're ready to buy.- AI's Role: AI enables scalable personalization, like crafting one-to-one tailored content and identifying actionable insights.Quotes"Brand isn't just for billion-dollar companies with Super Bowl ads. It's the asset that keeps your pipeline alive even when your ad budget dries up.”Recommended ResourceBooks: - Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of NIKE  by Phil Knight.- Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable by Seth GodinNewsletters:- Exit Five  by Dave Gerhardt.- Newsletter by Kieran Flanagan from HubSpot.Shout-Outs- Gary Vaynerchuk - Chairman – VaynerX, CEO – VaynerMedia, Creator – VeeFriends- Seth Godin - Founding editor of the Carbon Almanac, blogger and entrepreneur.- Dharmesh Shah - UK & Ireland Country Director, Present Technologies- Kieran Flanagan - Marketing (CMO, SVP) | All things AI | Sequoia Scout | Advisor- Dave Gerhardt - Founder, Exit Five

In this special recap, we dive into what it really means to be a product marketer in the ever-evolving B2B SaaS space—from defining the role to gaining the trust of executives and product teams. Hear first-hand advice on establishing boundaries, shaping product roadmaps, and showcasing your unique value. Tune in to discover how you can go from feeling misunderstood to being the unignorable voice in your organization.Why product marketing often feels misunderstood—and how to change that.The “secret sauce” to defining your role so everyone, from sales to CEOs, sees your impact.Strategies for sitting in a “neutral” spot on the org chart (and why it's a dream setup).Insider tips for positioning your product before it's built—so buyers are ready to say “yes.”How to set healthy boundaries with tasks that aren't in your zone of genius.This episode is featuring episodes clips from Tamara Grominsky, Dave Gerhardt, and April Dunford.Give it a listen prior to season 4 launching in 2 weeks! Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Episode #220: Website Teardown | In this session from the Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites, Dave Gerhardt teams up with Diane Wiredu, messaging strategist and founder of Lion Words, and Lee Reshef, Head of Product Marketing & Retention at Fiverr, to break down what makes a high-converting B2B homepage. They critique real B2B homepages, analyzing messaging, design, and user experience to highlight what works, what doesn't, and how to fix it.Dave, Diane, and Lee cover:The biggest homepage mistakes B2B companies make (and how to fix them).What belongs above the fold to grab attention and drive action.How to balance messaging for multiple personas without overwhelming visitors.If your homepage isn't converting (or is the subject of endless internal debates), this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you optimize it.Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Diane and Lee (03:48) - - Common homepage mistakes that kill conversions (05:02) - - What belongs above the fold and why it matters (06:41) - - The role of messaging in homepage clarity and engagement (08:22) - - Balancing multiple personas without overwhelming visitors (09:36) - - Homepage copywriting do's and don'ts (14:09) - - The importance of A/B testing and user feedback (16:30) - - Homepage layout best practices for conversion (18:54) - - Homepage roast: Amplemarket (24:19) - - Homepage roast: Chattermill (31:27) - - The role of trust indicators and social proof (33:55) - - Common design mistakes that reduce homepage effectiveness (37:25) - - Homepage roast: PrimePay (42:20) - - Messaging clarity vs. overcomplicating the value prop (45:45) - - Final thoughts Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode brought to you by Navattic.B2B websites are filled with too much story, too much narrative these days. You visit a website and you have no idea what the product does and how it works. This is why Navattic has become a popular product for B2B Marketers. They help you build interactive demos so you can give buyers a real look at the product before they ever talk to sales.And guess what - it works. They found that companies using interactive demos with Navattic have seen up to a 25% lift in website conversion rates and a 10-20% increase in inbound leads. They just released their 2025 State of the Interactive Product Demo report, and it proves just how much more control B2B buyers want over the buying process. Buyers have more access to information than ever, and companies are finally catching up by making their product front and center.Their report breaks down the top-performing demos, why ungated demos drive higher engagement and the best use cases and strategies for making them work.So if you want to learn more about using product demos on your site, go check out Navattic's State of the Interactive Product Demo report now. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

We speak with Dave Gerhardt, founder of Exit Five, who reveals how to build a standout B2B marketing community. He breaks down the impact of AI on SEO and content, his no-nonsense approach to LinkedIn content, podcasting as a content strategy, and why Exit Five moved from Facebook to Circle. It's a sharp look at staying agile and authentic in modern marketing.Show Notes:0:00 Introduction to Dave Gerhardt and Marketing Insights2:35 The Role of SEO in Modern Marketing5:10 Content Creation and Personal Workflow11:14 Building a Community Around Marketing24:28 Authenticity in LinkedIn Posting29:00 Podcasting as a Content Strategy38:43 Building a Paid Community Experience43:05 The Impact of AI on SEO and Content47:11 Evolving SEO Roles and Future StrategiesShow Links:Dave Gerhardt Exit Five communityKnowatoa AI rank monitoringSubscribe today for weekly tipsFollow Ross on XEmail Ross: ross@siegemedia.com#seo | #contentmarketing

This is a must-listen episode where Chris Walker joined Dave Gerhardt (Founder & CEO of Exit Five) on the B2B Marketing with Dave Gerhardt podcast.  Key topics from this episode: Why being “early” in seeing how marketing is changing is often misunderstood as being wrong How to manage negativity on social media while staying focused on your goals Using podcasts, live events, and social media to gather actionable customer insights in real time Breaking down marketing into Strategy vs. Pipeline Creation for clarity and efficiency Why AI is an accelerant for creativity and execution, not a replacement for strategic thinking How smaller and more agile marketing teams are outperforming larger ones Calculating true marketing ROI by accounting for headcount, tools, and overall efficiency How senior marketing leaders can improve outcomes by staying hands-on and closer to the execution process – Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing Revenue Vitals and all of Chris's short-form video and YouTube content. Hatch is a video-first content agency that creates short-form video content, video podcasts, original video series, and YouTube videos for B2B companies. Visit www.hatch.fm to learn more.

What makes marketers and agency professionals natural SaaS founders? In this episode, David Hart, author of Productized and co-founder of ScreenCloud, shares his journey from agency ownership to building a successful SaaS company with over $20M ARR. Learn how to transform creative skills and strategic thinking into a scalable business model. What you'll learn: Turning agency challenges into scalable product opportunities. The importance of understanding customer needs and validation. How content marketing drives growth on a limited budget. David's journey offers valuable lessons for marketers aiming to create lasting impact. Don't miss this chance to learn practical strategies for building your own success story. Competition time

What makes marketers and agency professionals natural SaaS founders? In this episode, David Hart, author of Productized and co-founder of ScreenCloud, shares his journey from agency ownership to building a successful SaaS company with over $20M ARR. Learn how to transform creative skills and strategic thinking into a scalable business model. What you'll learn: Turning agency challenges into scalable product opportunities. The importance of understanding customer needs and validation. How content marketing drives growth on a limited budget. David's journey offers valuable lessons for marketers aiming to create lasting impact. Don't miss this chance to learn practical strategies for building your own success story. Competition time

When done right, paid spend is like throwing gasoline on the flames of what's working in your marketing. Done wrong – it's just a huge waste of time and money.In this episode, Dave Gerhardt hosts an live session with John Short, CEO of Compound Growth Marketing (CGM), and Kym Parker, SVP of Media Strategy at CGM, who walk through tried and true strategies they've built from managing over $50 million in paid spend.They also cover:How to choose which strategy is best for you and exactly how to target the right ICPThe three keys to successful paid media, like setting up actionable reportingHow to identify how much you can spend for leads/account at each stage of the sales and marketing funnelTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to John and Kym (07:29) - - Choosing the Perfect Paid Media Strategy (11:57) - - The $100 CPL Myth (15:32) - - Three Keys to Successful Paid Media (18:10) - - Qualification Is Critical in ABM Success (19:48) - - How You Should Think About Bidding Algorithms (22:32) - - Prospect Experience: The Campaign Funnel (24:12) - - Using a Multi-Channel Approach (29:32) - - Mid-Intent Funnel Examples (33:04) - - Executing on a Paid Acquisition Strategy (39:13) - - Tailoring Your Messaging for Buying Committee Engagement (43:47) - - Balancing Funnel Strategies (46:28) - - Justifying Higher Costs (50:43) - - Channel Testing and Target Comparison (52:08) - - How to Master Paid Media in Enterprise Marketing Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Revenue Hero. It's 2024, your buyer has probably moved on to an alternative after a few minutes of not hearing from you, let alone 29 hours.What those companies need is automated scheduling for qualified leads.And that's where RevenueHero comes in. Their platform is the fastest way for qualified leads to schedule a meeting with your sales team. Plus they have the most sophisticated matching algorithm so all your leads get booked with the right rep whether they are a new account or already a customer. Check them out at revenuehero.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In today's challenging business landscape, marketers face the daunting task of not only crafting an efficient marketing plan, but implementing it quickly, proving its value, and continuously adapting the plan on the fly. The ever-changing macroeconomic environment adds an extra layer of complexity, making success even harder to achieve.In this episode, Rowan Tonkin, CMO at Planful, and Dave Gerhardt, Founder of Exit Five, lead you through the essential steps to building your plan, getting it approved, and unlocking the full potential of your marketing efforts.They cover:Tips to build a powerful marketing plan that aligns with your business objectives.Strategies to gain plan approval from executives and board membersBest practices and practical approaches to flawlessly execute your marketing plan, turning ideas into measurable results.Insights into the advantages of scenario planning and how it can prepare your marketing team to adapt to the ever-changing economic landscape. Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Knak.  Launching an email or landing page in your marketing automation platform shouldn't feel like assembling an airplane mid flight with no instructions, but too often that's exactly how it feels.No more having to stop midway through your campaign to fix something simple. Knack lets you work with your entire team in real time and stops you from having to fix things mid flight. Check them out at knak.com/exit-five/***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this special episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby joins Dave Gerhardt on the Exit Five podcast to discuss simplifying Account-Based Marketing (ABM) strategies and implementing a signal-based go-to-market approach. This episode is repurposed from Exit Five, where Mason was a guest sharing his insights on practical ABM implementations without the need for complex tech stacks.Best Moments:(01:17) Why ABM is a popular but challenging topic for marketers(05:59) Who should implement ABM strategies(09:41) Differences between ABM and pure play demand generation(15:10) The importance of personalized content in ABM(24:41) The four D's framework for ABM: Data, Distribution, Destination, and Direction(28:57) Benefits of starting with closed-lost and website re-engagement programs(34:29) ABM myths and misconceptions(37:31) The importance of a crawl, walk, run approach to implementing ABMGuest Bios:Dave Gerhardt: Dave is the founder of Exit Five and a former startup CMO. He is a renowned marketing expert and thought leader with extensive experience in B2B marketing, including content marketing, demand generation, and ABM. Dave is known for his practical approach to marketing strategies and hosts the Exit Five podcast, helping B2B marketers grow their careers.Mason Cosby: Mason is the host of the Scrappy ABM podcast and an ABM expert specializing in building effective ABM programs on low budgets. Over the past three years, he has sourced over $8 million in revenue, driving an 18X ROI. Mason runs various ABM-related content platforms, including a podcast, newsletter, website, and a masterclass in partnership with UserGems.About Exit Five Podcast:The Exit Five podcast, hosted by Dave Gerhardt, features conversations with CMOs, marketing leaders, and subject matter experts across all aspects of modern B2B marketing. Episodes cover planning, strategy, operations, ABM, demand generation, product marketing, brand, content, social media, and more, providing valuable insights to help marketers grow their careers.Additional Resources:Listen to the full episode on Exit Five:SpotifyApple PodcastsAmazon MusicPlayerFMJoin the Exit Five Community: exitfive.comConnect with the Guests on LinkedIn:Dave GerhardtMason Cosby

In this episode, Dave Gerhardt sits down with Mason Cosby, a leader in account-based marketing (ABM) strategy and founder of Scrappy ABM. Dave and Mason unpack how to simplify ABM, create meaningful engagement, and build personalized campaigns that drive real business results.Dave and Mason cover:Why companies should crawl before they walk or run” with ABM by starting with re-engagement programs instead of complex tech stacks.Why you need to track key signals of engagement and align marketing efforts to warm up prospects before sales outreach.Why you should be treating sales as an integrated marketing channel.Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Mason (05:48) - - Should you be using ABM? (08:44) - - Breaking down the process — awareness to acquisition (12:02) - - Why you should be treating sales as a marketing channel (16:47) - - Insights and data you need for effective ABM (20:07) - - Distribution strategies (24:10) - - When to adjust your outreach strategy (25:52) - - Awareness, engagement, and high-intent follow-up strategies (30:09) - - Re-engagement vs awareness for ABM (33:10) - - Why your story and positioning drive marketing success (34:25) - - Mason's framework for ABM programming (38:07) - - Learn before scaling ideas (crawl, walk, run) Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode of the Exit Five podcast is brought to you by our friends at Calendly. You've probably heard of Calendly. And you probably have used it to schedule meetings with people outside your company.But did you know you can also use Calendly on your website to increase conversion and create a better hand off experience with sales? Speed to lead is everything and that's why B2B marketing teams today use Calendly to convert leads the moment they're ready to talk to sales. Instead of doing the whole follow-up late dance, you can book meetings right within the forms on your website. And Calendly has the routing and integrations you need to make sure your prospects get booked with the right sales rep.Smith.ai increased their website bookings by 26% using Calendly. And Katalon, the all-in-one test automation platform, was able to increase their conversion rate 3X using Calendly.Join over 20 million users who count on Calendly to simplify meetings, save time and drive revenue revenue by removing the friction from your website. Visit calendly.com/exitfive to get started with a 14-day free trial.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In our August Expert Session, Chris Walker and Matthew Sciannella spent an hour delivering detailed analysis, actionable feedback, and tips on repurposing website content for ad creative.    Key takeaways include: The transition from paid search to paid social requires a deep understanding of platform user behavior and creative messaging strategies. Existing web content like feature pages, case studies, and product updates are the best starting points for repurposing into engaging ad formats such as carousel ads and short-form videos. Use metrics like dwell time on LinkedIn to measure the engagement of your content and adjust strategies accordingly.   If you missed the event, you can access it here on our YouTube page. You can also find previous months' Expert Sessions including Marketing in Competitive Categories, featuring Kyle ColemanScaling a Demand Engine, featuring Alice De Courcy Leveraging Social and Community to Create Demand, featuring Dave Gerhardt

In this episode, host Jay Schwedelson interviews Dave Gerhardt, founder of exitfive, about how to build thriving online communities and manage the balance between entrepreneurship and personal life.=================================================================Best Moments:(00:40) A look into Dave's professional journey, from Drift to Privy, and his current role at exitfive(03:01) Leveraging social media followers for building business influence and community(04:36) How Dave founded and grew exitfive into a successful community of B2B marketers(08:30) Best practices for keeping community members engaged and active(15:19) The key role of subject matter expertise in leading a successful online community(17:24) Pros and cons of charging members for access to online communities(23:24) Why Dave deleted his personal Instagram account and how it impacted his professional focus(27:02) A personal discussion about Dave's move to Vermont and how he balances work with family life(30:27) How to become a part of the exitfive community=================================================================Guest Bio:Dave Gerhardt is the founder of exitfive, a community of 4,000 paying B2B marketers. Previously, he served as the Chief Brand Officer at Drift, helping drive the company to a $1 billion valuation, and as CMO at Privy, leading them to a $100 million acquisition. Dave is known for his expertise in B2B marketing and community building, with a substantial following on LinkedIn and a popular podcast.=================================================================PARTNER WITH JAY AND GURU Media Hub HERE:www.GuruMediaHub.comPartner with Jay or have Jay on YOUR podcast:www.JaySchwedelson.comJay's Agency:www.OutcomeMedia.com=================================================================MASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Marigold is a relationship marketing platform designed to help you acquire new customers and turn them into superfans with their best-in-class loyalty solutions. Don't take my word for it though, American Airlines, Honeybaked Ham, Title Boxing, and Notre Dame University are also customers!Regardless of your size, check out Marigold today to get the solution you need to grow your business!Check out this free content from marigold that Jay has loved digesting, 5 Steps For Selecting The Right Email Marketing Platform.

For our first Expert Session of 2024, Chris Walker was joined by Exit Five's Dave Gerhardt to talk about how Social and Community can help create demand. The conversation kicks off with an overview of how companies can leverage communities and influencer partnerships to diversify their marketing strategies beyond LinkedIn and Google paid budgets. This episode promises to arm listeners with unconventional yet practical tips to take their digital strategies to new heights. Chris and Dave explore the nuances of creating and nurturing owned company communities. They discuss the success metrics that truly matter and the distinctions between communities as stand-alone entities versus those adjunct to SaaS companies. The second part of the episode pivots to unpack the emerging roles of influencers, or key opinion leaders, in the B2B sector. They shed light on the symbiotic nature of these partnerships and the importance of authenticity and strategic alignment. Insights into LinkedIn's algorithm changes and content distribution strategies pepper the conversation, providing a grounded perspective for B2B marketers aiming to make their mark in an increasingly crowded digital space. Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at www.hatch.fm

Timestamps:01:05 Dave's Journey and Podcasting Tips04:18 The Importance of Product Marketing06:16 Early Stage Marketing Strategies13:29 Building Trust and Influence in Startups20:24 Positioning and Messaging Challenges24:42 Addressing the Decline in Win Rate25:24 Importance of Executing Positioning25:57 Casual Conversation and Personal Interests26:58 Messaging Torture Chamber27:31 Marketing Strategies: Brand vs. Content29:14 Event Marketing Insights30:59 Simplifying B2B Marketing34:38 The Role of Podcasts in B2B Marketing41:23 Conclusion and Upcoming Events Show Notes:Founder BrandDave LinkedInDave Kellog BlogExit Five CommunityThe Exit Five Podcast

JH Scherck is a growth consultant known for his expertise in developing effective content strategies for SaaS companies. He previously worked for companies like WP Engine and Docsend before striking out on his own with his SEO and content strategy agency, Growth Plays. JH is a wealth of knowledge about B2B marketing strategies, audience development, and SEO. Check out the full podcast to learn more about: (00:00) Introduction (01:47) Early career mistakes (11:34) Why targeting zero-volume keywords makes zero sense (15:54) How to market a product with no search demand (20:08) Owned vs earned media (26:46) Brand vs personal brand for social media (37:25) What is a community and how do you build one? (42:58) Why should you attend industry events? (51:07) Facilitating connections at events (55:39) When is marketing attribution useful? (01:11:31) Why AI will encourage uniqueness in marketing Where to find JH: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jhtscherck/ X: https://x.com/JHTScherck Website: https://growthplays.com/ Where to find Tim: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsoulo/ X: https://x.com/timsoulo Website: https://www.timsoulo.com/ Referenced: Docsend: https://www.docsend.com/ WP Engine: https://wpengine.com/ Salesforce: Marc Benioff: https://x.com/benioff Drift: https://www.drift.com/ Dave Gerhardt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegerhardt/ Alex Poulos: https://www.linkedin.com/in/poulos/ MozCon: https://moz.com/mozcon Rand Fishkin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randfishkin/ Sparktoro article (Provable Marketing Attribution Is a Boondoggle): https://sparktoro.com/blog/provable-marketing-attribution-is-a-boondoggle-trust-your-gut-instead/ Orbit: https://orbit.love/ Orbit model of community: https://orbit.love/model Olivier Pomel (CEO of DataDog): https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivierpomel/ Mattermark: https://mattermark.com/ Danielle Morill: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellemorrill/ Patrick Stox: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickstox/ https://x.com/patrickstox Joshua Hardwick: https://x.com/JoshuaCHardwick Ryan Law: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thinkingslow/ https://x.com/thinking_slow Jason Cohen (WP Engine): https://x.com/asmartbear Ross Hudgens: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosshudgens/ Wil Reynolds: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilreynolds/ Hubspot: https://www.hubspot.com/ PubCon: https://www.pubcon.com/ Dmitry Gerasymenko: https://x.com/botsbreeder

Episode Summary This podcast episode discusses how Jodie Woodworth implemented an agile marketing framework to improve efficiency and productivity at her company. She shares how she overcame resistance from her team by empowering them and introducing agile principles gradually. Originally the team struggled with slow project completion due to perfectionism, but agile practices helped deliver value to customers faster. The speaker discusses optimizing meetings, prioritizing tasks, and improving communication through daily stand-ups and regular team collaboration. Metrics for tracking campaign performance and strategies for continuous improvement are also covered. The importance of adapting quickly to changes in their fast-paced industry is emphasized. About the guest Jodie Woodworth is the head of marketing for Envysion, a Motorola Solutions company focused on managed video technology to reduce loss, improve safety & security, and create operational excellence protecting restaurant and retail establishments. She is passionate about B2B marketing and leading an agile marketing team by empowering others to flourish in their role. Connect with Jodie Woodworth Key takeaways- Implement agile marketing gradually to gain team buy-in and overcome resistance to change - Empower your team to make decisions, take risks, and learn from failures  - Prioritize tasks based on duration and value delivered to customers - Optimize meetings and communication through daily stand-ups and collaboration across teams - Track campaign metrics like engagement and lead generation to improve strategies - Continuously adapt strategies and processes to changes in your industry's pace of innovation Quotes“If you're stuck and don't know why it didn't work, figure out why it didn't work and try something else. But do it quickly.” -Jodie Woodworth Recommended Resource Books-Story Brand by Donald Miller. -Atomic Habits by James Clear. Podcast -Exit Five by Dave Gerhardt. ⁠Connect with Jodie Woodworth⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

The Long Game is back, and this week we're recapping all things Masters — including Scottie Scheffler's steady dominance en route to his second green jacket, the scariest holes at Augusta National, Golf Channel's practice range coverage, and the reactions/fallout from Jason Day's Malbon debacle. Also, Dave has a revelation about ANGC, we guess what we'd shoot over four rounds of the tournament, ponder Ludvig Åberg's ceiling, and rank Jim Nantz's signature final putt call. Plus, should we know what the champion's locker room looks like?MORE FROM THE LONG GAME PODCAST- TLG Pod Socials & Episodes: https://t.co/FXDODpbR2M - Follow Dave Gerhardt: @davegerhardt- Follow Casey Ford: @fordpr- Email us listener questions/course stories at longgamepod@gmailMusic: Nocturne N20 (Hip Hop Chopin) - @GrandProjectMusic

The Long Game is back, Masters week is officially upon us, and Dave and Casey are ready to break down all things Magnolia Lane this week. First, they recap the thrilling Valero Texas Open finish, Akshay Bhatia's clutch (and painful) play, Lottie Woad's impressive run at the Augusta National Women's Amateur, and Kelly Norda's dominant fourth straight LPGA win. The guys also talk eclipse-preparedness, share some leftover Netflix Full Swing thoughts, and discuss Jon Rahm's 72-hole revelation.MORE FROM THE LONG GAME PODCAST- TLG Pod Socials & Episodes: https://t.co/FXDODpbR2M - Follow Dave Gerhardt: @davegerhardt- Follow Casey Ford: @fordpr- Email us listener questions/course stories at longgamepod@gmailMusic: Nocturne N20 (Hip Hop Chopin) - @GrandProjectMusic

The Long Game is back, and Dave and Casey kick off the show by discussing the state of April Fools' Day corporate gags on social media. They also recap last weekend's Texas Children's Houston Open, and Casey tries to figure out the difference between Stephan Jäger and Thomas Detry. We also recap Casey's trip to The Players Championship a few weeks back, JB Holmes sneaking into an amateur Calcutta, and whether it's okay for dads to wear golf shoes to PGA TOUR events. Finally, Casey comes clean about how he ties his shoes.MORE FROM THE LONG GAME PODCAST- TLG Pod Socials & Episodes: https://t.co/FXDODpbR2M - Follow Dave Gerhardt: @davegerhardt- Follow Casey Ford: @fordpr- Email us listener questions/course stories at longgamepod@gmailMusic: Nocturne N20 (Hip Hop Chopin) - @GrandProjectMusic

The Long Game is back and this week we're joined by the one and only David “Janko” Jankowski, 2024 New England PGA Teacher of the Year and owner of Golf Garage VT. First, Dave and Casey catch up after a week off to discuss recent travels, Peter Malnati's emotional win inside the simulation, and Dave shares a controversial “Full Swing” Season 2 take. Janko then joins the program after some technical difficulties [00:21:14], and we discuss he and Dave's trip last week down to Pinehurst, North Carolina, where they teamed in the annual New England PGA Pro-Am. We go deep on the resort itself — from No. 2 and No. 4 to The Cradle — and why Pinehurst is such an incredible destination for golf sickos like us. We also preview the upcoming US Open there in June and Janko outlines the type of PGA TOUR pros whose games are tailor-made for Pinehurst No. 2.Follow David “Janko” Jankowski (@janko_golfcoaching) & Golf Garage (@golfgaragevt) on Instagram and at jankogolf.com.MORE FROM THE LONG GAME PODCAST- TLG Pod Socials & Episodes: https://t.co/FXDODpbR2M - Follow Dave Gerhardt: @davegerhardt- Follow Casey Ford: @fordpr- Email us listener questions/course stories at longgamepod@gmailMusic: Nocturne N20 (Hip Hop Chopin) - @GrandProjectMusic

This week on The Long Game Podcast we dive headfirst into the world of analytics with the one and only golf stat pro, and co-host of the “Hack It Out Golf Podcast,” Lou Stagner. [00:10:15] We get the scoop on Lou's journey from crunching numbers in the corporate world to revolutionizing the way we think about golf through analytics, why tracking putts is a useless stat, what amateur golfer's biggest myths are about their own games, why distance was more important in the 80's than it is today, and why the difference between a 10 handicap and a scratch golfer isn't making more birdies. Follow Lou Stagner on Twitter (@LouStagner), Instagram (@LouStagnerGolf), and subscribe to his weekly newsletter at newsletter.loustagnergolf.comMORE FROM THE LONG GAME PODCAST- TLG Pod Socials & Episodes: https://t.co/FXDODpbR2M - Follow Dave Gerhardt: @davegerhardt- Follow Casey Ford: @fordpr- Email us listener questions/course stories at longgamepod@gmail

Dave limps into the show this week, fresh off his second consecutive Disney vacation-related bout with food poisoning. We immediately delve into Dave's new hat—a great visual topic for a podcast—as we continue our push towards a lucrative Malbon sponsorship. We also discuss whether the PGA TOUR has a star power problem, Anthony Kim's disastrous LIV Jeddah start, and Talor Gooch's eyebrow-raising comments before previewing this week's Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill. We also empty out the mailbag with listener questions, and Casey contemplates bringing his 4-year-old to The Players Championship.FOR MORE LONG GAME POD- TLG Pod Socials: https://t.co/FXDODpbR2M - Follow Dave: @davegerhardt- Follow Casey: @fordPR- Email us listener questions/course stories at longgamepod@gmail

About The Episode:In this episode, we're joined by entrepreneur and content creation expert Will Nelson, as he shares his insights and practical advice for capturing and converting ideas into engaging content. Tap into the mindset, strategies, and routines that fuel Will's success in the high-stakes world of professional and personal branded content.Today, we'll cover:- Will's personal strategies for finding inspiration in everyday moments and staying productive without the pressure.- Practical tips for time management and creativity, including how to align content creation with your natural workflow.- The common pitfalls that new content creators face and how to avoid them for long-term success.- Insight into Will's journey from building to selling businesses and how these experiences now shape his approach to content for professional brands.- Strategies for content creation and monetization tailored to your personal or business goals, and the secret of providing value first.What You'll Learn1. Inspiration for content creation2. Timing content with creativity peaks3. Documenting and sharing content strategies4. Personal branding and online presence5. Consistency in content production6. Monetization of content creation7. ROI and investment in contentTimestamps00:00 Marketer turned entrepreneur, building 64 Stories agency.05:56 Start creating content, grow, adapt, find voice.09:52 Social media strategy depends on your goals.13:55 Analyze top social media content for inspiration.16:16 SEO results take time, require commitment.19:46 Prioritize time for content creation and analytics.21:49 Transform voice notes into engaging social media.28:26 Capture and document content to avoid loss.29:18 Various activities inspire creativity at different times.32:55 Dedicated sessions help foster creativity and focus.36:14 Greg's content praised, audience directed to socials. Entrepreneurship and Content Creation: "I've always been an entrepreneur that has struggled with distribution myself. I identify as a builder. I love building things. I've never been fantastic at getting attention for either my personal brand or for my businesses without having to pay for that attention through Facebook ads or more traditional media."— Will Nelson [00:02:37 → 00:02:58]The Evolution of Personal Branding: "It might take longer to build a personal brand, but it's something that you can come back to. It's an asset that will keep paying you dividends long term versus having to constantly rent."— Will Nelson [00:05:33 → 00:05:44]Content Creation Process: "So I was talking to Dave Gerhardt the other day from exit five, and he has a notion page that he just jots down ideas into on a daily basis and then circles back to those to see if he can create any piece of content from. So whenever an idea pops into his head, he's putting it down somewhere."— Will Nelson [00:07:13 → 00:07:30]Social Media Strategy for Creators and Businesses: "I think in general, though, on social, you should have the mindset of just giving away as much as you can for free, and then very infrequently asking for something in return. So just like going to the ATM, you need to first put money in the bank account to take money out. For business owners, I typically recommend ten to 20% for top of the funnel content, 60% to 70% for middle of the funnel content and then ten to 20 for bottom of funnel content."— Will Nelson [00:10:12 → 00:10:45]Content Strategy Insights: "So I have a full time analyst that will go to YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn and start to mine the top performing content in a given month to get a sense of what hooks are performing, what style of content's performing, what types of edits."— Will Nelson [00:13:55 → 00:14:13]Understanding ROI in Content Marketing: "It probably takes, realistically, three plus, maybe six plus months to start to see an ROI. And so you're losing money or you're investing money into something without seeing a return for a little while, and that can sting."— Will Nelson [00:16:20 → 00:16:35]Content Creation Efficiency: "So take the inputs that you're giving your voice notes or whatever app you're using to log those insights and then chop that up into written content or video content if you're recording that, and then actually post it to the various social channels that you want to get on."— Will Nelson [00:21:49 → 00:22:19]Content Marketing Persistence: "A lot of the big accounts that are on X or LinkedIn have been at it for quite some time, so it's a lot of just stick tuitiveness."— Will Nelson [00:23:40 → 00:24:37]Creative Inspiration for New Podcasters: "I'm just stealing or getting inspiration from content that I know has performed well in the past or has been thought of by an expert podcaster."— Will Nelson [00:27:18 → 00:27:29]Creativity and Flow State: "And so I think you have to allocate enough time to get into that flow state, and you have to make it a practice, whether it's daily or weekly."— Will Nelson [00:33:28 → 00:33:38]Shownotes powered by Castmagic--Have any questions about the show or topics you'd like us to explore further?Shoot us a DM; we'd love to hear from you.Want the weekly TL;DR of tips delivered to your mailbox?Check out our newsletter here Follow us for content, clips, giveaways, & updates!Castmagic InstagramCastmagic TwitterCastmagic LinkedIn ---Blaine Bolus - Co-Founder of CastmagicRamon Berrios - Co-Founder of CastmagicWill Nelson - Founder and CEO of 64stories

The Long Game is back, and this week Dave and Casey are joined by professional World Long Drive competitors Bryce Mooney and [Doctor!] Sam Attanasio for a deep dive into the world of speed/distance training. They also explain why adding distance is the single most important factor in lowering an amateur golfer's handicap, how they became training partners, the importance of accuracy during competition, Sam becoming the second person ever to eclipse 240 MPH ball speed, and why former D1 baseball players are usually long hitters.Sam and Bryce also walk us through Speed Toad, the speed training system they invented, what it's like to create and market a product to the golf industry, and how their competitors are catching up thanks to their own creation.Plus, Casey tries to explain to Bryce and Sam what “laying up” is.Follow Bryce Mooney on Instagram & TikTok (@longdrivebryce), Sam Attanasio on Instagram & TikTok (@bombitld), and Speed Toad on Instagram (@speedtoad) and https://thespeedtoad.comFOR MORE LONG GAME POD- TLG Pod Socials: https://t.co/FXDODpbR2M - Follow Dave: @davegerhardt- Follow Casey: @fordPR- Email us listener questions/course stories at longgamepod@gmail

The Long Game is back and we're recapping Tiger Wood's week In-N-Out of the Genesis Open at Riviera and Hideki Matsuyama's historic closing round before previewing this week's prestigious Mexico Open at Vidanta. We also get into kid birthday celebrations, DIY furniture assembly, what we think our handiness handicaps are, the curiosity behind NUCLR Golf, and Casey negotiates with a casino over a Masters bet. - TLG Pod Socials: https://t.co/FXDODpbR2M - Follow Dave: @davegerhardt- Follow Casey: @fordPR- Email us listener questions/course stories at longgamepod@gmail 

In this episode, we welcome a very special guest, Dave Gerhardt. We discuss various topics including B2B marketing, his career, community building, and podcasting. Tune in for an insightful discussion and valuable insights! Chapters

Ep 199 Solving practical marketing questions by real marketers. Kipp and guest host Dave Gerhardt (Founder/CEO Exit Five) dive into the real marketing issues faced by those who work in the space. Learn more on the difference between playing in an existing category and disrupting an existing category, converting a dormant audience into an active audience, referral programs that work, and more. Mentions Exit Five https://www.exitfive.com/ Event Vesta https://eventvesta.com/ Paramark https://paramark.com/ MongoDB https://www.mongodb.com/ Videodeck https://www.videodeck.co/ We're on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don't forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain' is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.

Here's a bonus episode where our host, Margaret Kelsey, joined Exit Five, hosted by Dave Gerhardt. Layoffs, budget cuts, slower sales cycles, and a lack of urgency to buy your product right now. That's become normal in B2B SaaS over the last two quarters. But what does it mean for marketer? Do nothing? Just play defense? Yeah right. Marketers are being asked to do more with less, and if you're one of those marketers this is a session you don't want to miss. Dave is joined by Margaret Kelsey (Founder of TatCo, Marketing Advisor), Jason Widup (VP Marketing, Metadata), and Shauntle Barley (Director of Marketing, Demandwell) to talk about the state of B2B marketing in Q2 2023 and helpful ideas for driving growth in a down economy. Listen to Exit Five: https://www.exitfive.com/podcastFollow Dave: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegerhardt/Connect with Devin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devinbramhall/Connect with Margaret: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-kelsey-104abba/Subscribe to the Don't Say Content newsletter: https://dontsaycontent.substack.com/Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/

Join me, Ross Simmonds, as I speak as a guest on the Pipeline podcast with host, Dave Gerhardt. "You have to invest in what works and ask yourself 'how does this link back to our overarching goal?'...and what you'll notice is that one aspect of your niche serves your audience better than the others." On this episode, I share how to build your content distribution engine in a way that helps your content marketing strategy thrive for the long term. Avoid the tendency to underestimate the opportunities that exist after you hit publish on your content. Tweets can become blog posts. Blog posts can become podcasts. Podcasts can become videos. Videos can become webinars. Over the last few years, I've distributed blog posts, videos, podcasts, slides, infographics & more for my own brand & for clients to reach millions of people. The content I've touched has made the front page of Reddit 7x, combine for more than 1M visitors via social & referral traffic, more than 1.2M views on Slideshare, over 500,000 impressions on Twitter & 40,000 views a month on LinkedIn. > This doesn't include any of the results that came from paid > This doesn't consider the ROI from using remarketing > This didn't come from begging for shares > This didn't come from a lucky break It came from having a deep understanding of how to spread stories across multiple channels without coming off as a spammer or someone STARVING for more diverse traffic. This isn't some special skill or talent... It's something I've trained people how to do at my agency. And it's something that they've gone ahead and trained our clients how to do internally. We actually made a playbook on Distribution. It can be found here: https://training.foundationinc.co/dream —-- Join hundreds of content creators, marketers and B2B SAAS brand owners and get content marketing tips and advice delivered straight to your inbox every week >>> https://foundationinc.co/newsletter Ross Simmonds is the CEO and founder of Foundation, a content marketing agency that partners exclusively with ambitious B2B brands looking to create and distribute content that inspires action and produces sales and leads. Ross hosts the weekly podcast "Create Like the Greats" and speaks on stages all over the world about the power of content marketing. Follow Ross on YouTube Instagram Twitter Connect on LinkedIn

Striking out on your own after years in the corporate world is scary. But for a marketing guru like Dave Gerhardt, that transition was a little less daunting. All he needed was the right story.Dave's online community, Exit Five, helps B2B marketers unlock the secrets of the industry — and according to him, it all starts with the brand story. Specifically, he recommends asking yourself, “What are you looking to do and for whom?”Dave joins Constant Contact's Director of Small Business Success and host, Dave Charest, to share his top gems from his storied career in marketing. Listen in as Dave Gerhardt walks you through building a marketing plan from a story, overcoming imposter syndrome, and setting goals for success — even when you're your own boss. Meet Today's Guest: Dave Gerhardt of Exit Five☕ What he does: Dave is a former marketing executive and now founder of Exit Five, an online community of B2B marketers. 

How do you build community on LinkedIn, with so many voices competing for attention? Dave Gerhardt is the LinkedIn OG with all the knowledge.Dave is the Founder of ExitFive, a platform for B2B marketing professionals, with more than 3,000 paying members. He's also the host of the ExitFive podcast. He joins Daniel on this LinkedIn Live event.Daniel and Dave discuss why founders shouldn't be afraid of building their personal brand on LinkedIn, the inspiration behind the name ExitFive, and why LinkedIn is the perfect platform to push people towards your own channels.Follow David:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegerhardt/Twitter: https://twitter.com/davegerhardtKeep up to date with the latest news from The Marketing Millennials:.Follow Daniel on Twitter: twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up to The Marketing Millennials newsletter: workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. Find out more, visit: www.workweek.comTimestamps:Timestamps:00:00 Intro08:40 An Interesting Place To Be Right Now10:54 Going Where The People Are13:55 The Inherent Fascination With The Origin Story17:39 ExitFive's Origin Story21:05 Posting On Social Media? It's Not For Everyone26:44 The Yoga Example35:16 The Need For a Point Of View46:00 Content Consistently54:21 Being Authentic

WOWZA. Guess who came on to jam with me? YUP. Dave. You're gonna love this episode as we dive into what it means to be creative at your startup, why it's so important today and way more. We ran over because there was just so much to talk about (thanks Dave!). Dave Gerhardt is Founder of Exit Five. He's a former marketing exec at Drift ($1B valuation) and Privy (Series A) and now he's got his company of one. Exit Five (started as DGMG back in the day) is a community for B2B marketing pros with 3,000+ paying members. The main premise: “You didn't go to school for B2B Marketing, but you can learn through the Exit Five community + podcast.” Dave also does some 1:1 consulting work with a small group of high-growth B2B startups like Metadata and Goldcast and Equals. His book "Founder Brand" was released in 2022 and was an instant #1 best-seller on Amazon in Marketing. He's got 150k+ followers on LinkedIn. Here's what we hit on: What does “creative” mean to you (HINT: it doesn't necessarily mean crazy and wild); Some creative ideas from Dave's time at Drift; How to have really good taste for what your audience wants; How to sell the CEO on the creative stuff (HINT: the key to brand building and marketing is not 100% direct response); When it's OK to have a feeling but not a growth plan; How to balance creativity with results; Why and how marketers need to make their ideas and expertise more public inside their company; Are startups being creative enough? (HINT: No.) What's stopping startups from being more creative; Which specific startups ARE being more creative, pushing boundaries, and experimenting with their marketing; When Dave was at his creative peak (HINT: at Drift we created a lot of demand and raised money); Why moving fast is so important (not just ideas); Dave asks me his burning question. You can find Dave on LinkedIn. Learn more about Exit Five. Visit Dave's website davegerhardt.com. For more content, subscribe to Modern Startup Marketing on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review! And whenever you're ready, there are 3 ways I can help you: 1. Startup marketing strategy, execution and advising (25+ happy clients and mentees) >> www.furmanovmarketing.com 2. Sign up to get my monthly newsletter where I'm sharing playbooks and insights and cracking some jokes that will make you smile guaranteed >> https://share.hsforms.com/1cP1V40x7RGes5gHk1XNgNw47lba 3. Sponsor my Top 10% podcast and get startup founders, marketers and VCs hearing about your brand >> https://anchor.fm/anna-furmanov You can also find me hanging out on LinkedIn every single week: www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/anna-furmanov/message

“Fun translates into good performance.” The four things every marketer should know before starting their career: Find a skill (channel) that is the most fun to do. Then specialize. Specialization brings money. Specialization solves hard problems that matter. You take this even further by also specializing in a specific industry (e.g. I specialize in marketing for fintech and insurance orgs at the moment). Understand the business you're marketing. Do your best to think like the CEO. Find an excuse to meet other experts. Personal branding is the easiest way to grow your network of mentors. Create a swipe file. This is not a new or novel suggestion, just one that works. There's a reason other marketing experts do this! Key moments from marketing experts: Mark Stouse, Episode #93 - https://kennysoto.com/podcast/mark-stouse-defining-a-recession-proof-career-things-to-know-as-a-new-cmo-ep-93/ Steve Toth, Episode #99 - https://kennysoto.com/podcast/steve-toth-understanding-in-seo-can-lead-to-exponential-growth-ep-99/ Jacob Warwick #91 - https://kennysoto.com/podcast/jacob-warwick-how-your-career-narrative-can-help-you-become-a-vp-ep-91/ Maya Grossman, Episode #84 - https://kennysoto.com/podcast/maya-grossman-the-career-advice-you-need-if-you-want-to-be-a-marketing-leader-ep-84/ Sara Pion, Episode #86 - https://kennysoto.com/podcast/sara-pion-navigating-the-startup-world-as-a-new-marketer-ep-86/ Lea Pica, Episode #81 - https://kennysoto.com/podcast/lea-pica-using-data-storytelling-to-spur-action-ep-81/ My “swipe file” of favorite marketing newsletters: Nik Sharma's DTC newsletter - https://www.nik.co/subscribe Why We Buy - https://customercamp.co/newsletter/ Dave Gerhardt's B2B Marketing Advice - https://dgmg.davegerhardt.com/email The Marketing Brew - morningbrew.com/marketing//r/?kid=9f1e7657 Stacked Marketer - https://www.stackedmarketer.com/friend-recommended/?utm_source=sparkloop&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=sm_daily&rh_ref=2b82a0e9 SEO-specific newsletters I use for work include: WTF is SEO? - https://wtfseo.substack.com SEONoteBook - https://seonotebook.com Jeremy Moser's newsletter -https://www.jermoser.com Other marketing podcasts to subscribe to: Exit Five - https://open.spotify.com/show/0OJJbQlcUlHiLSvNZoJTYf Marketing School - https://open.spotify.com/show/1NulSGKhstJuty8iYPBMo5 Marketing Against The Grain - https://open.spotify.com/show/3bMqKPfI45OmTK5hENtIOk *Quick editing note: I got the acronym for SCORE incorrect! It's actually the Service Corps of Retired Executives. I ended up clipping that audio out of this episode. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

What techniques or strategies have you implemented to ensure the success of your business? For Dave Gerhardt, it's the power of self-promotion. Tune in to this episode and learn from Dave Gerhardt as he talks about how to build your brand by crafting YOUR story and how to use your story as a marketing strategy. Enjoy! To get your cop(ies) of the new edition, go to UltimateSalesMachine.com Connect with us: https://www.Instagram.com/UltimateSalesMachine https://www.Facebook.com/UltimateSalesMachine https://www.Twitter.com/ChetHolmes https://www.Linkedin.com/company/chetholmesint

All of us are tempted by a good get-rich-quick scheme. But marketing, just like almost everything else in life, is really about doing the hard work of showing up consistently and authentically. Taylor is convinced that the fundamentals of marketing are the same as when the game was invented; “What hasn't changed is trying to understand and identify your audience and answer why you matter to them, speaking to them in a way that moves the needle for them.” At the end of the day, marketing is about caring enough to play the long game and learn how you can better serve and engage with your community. To quote Pink Floyd on this, “Breathe, breathe in the air. Don't be afraid to care.”---------------Bio:Taylor is a TEDx speaker, host of the Talking Shizzle podcast, and marketing innovator in the social impact sector. Taylor is the Founder and CEO of branding firm Barlele and the recently launched Creative Shizzle, a subscription-based graphic design service that is bringing great design to more nonprofits and small businesses. In her marketing career, she has helped hundreds of organizations tell their story in digital channels.Guest links:Taylor's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tshank/Barlele: https://www.barlele.com/Creative Shizzle: https://creativeshizzle.com/Additional links:Dave Gerhardt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegerhardt/Noah Barnett on Taylor's podcast: https://talkingshizzle.buzzsprout.com/2036618/11349553-finding-oneself-and-the-burnout-with-noah-barnettPlaylist:Roar by Katy PerryGood Morning by Max FrostYou Were Meant For Me by Jewel***Hosted by the brilliant team at Feathr.coFeathr is the nonprofit marketing platform designed to help mission and member-based organizations build purposeful connections with their community to grow impact with confidence.

Category creation is something a lot of people talk about, but few execute it well. To truly create a category, you must move out of a category that the industry currently tries to place you in. In this episode, Chris and Dave Gerhardt discuss exactly how they think about category creation, how to build one, and how the category of Revenue R&D is going to change how go-to-market programs are executed.

Travis sits down to interview PandaDoc's (former) CMO, Nate Gilmore. They talk about why this change happened and what it means for the future of PandaDoc's marketing efforts. Nate details his perspective on his mistakes, lessons learned, and what he believes the short and long-term marketing plans are for his team moving forward. Together they watch a clip of Dave Gerhardt talking about marketing guardrails and react to what they believe are PandaDoc's marketing guardrails.

Business-to-business transactions occur between businesses instead of between a company and a single client. In this episode, we will learn about B2B marketing, covering concepts, ideas, and suggestions in the area, as well as how Dave got successful in the marketing field. Maja welcomes Dave Gerhardt, founder of B2B marketing media company Exit Five, a former brand officer at Drift, and chief marketing officer at Privy. Dave is here to share knowledge that will help us build a successful company as he did. Are you interested in learning more about the strategies that can help you develop as a startup in the marketing field? Take a moment to listen to this Podcast now! Shownotes [03:56] How did David Gerhardt's experience in working with businesses help him gain a depth of knowledge about marketing? [04:34] Dave recommends launching your marketing-related blog or Podcast to gain additional knowledge and a deeper grasp of the industry. [13:28] If you have the budget to do it, it's an excellent investment if you know how to use it correctly. [15:12] Does producing merch have an impact on your company? [17:39] David Gerhardt shares what excites him most about marketing and brand-building. [18:46] What impact does the audience have on a company's growth? [19:18] Find out what David Gerhardt recommends for audience building for your business. [22:33] Stay tuned and learn for yourself as David Gerhardt presents two demand generation tactics. [25:14] How possible can make companies transition? [28:48] What would happen if you didn't invest money to expand your audience on someone else's platform? [34:56] David Gerhardt covers product-led growth's underrated but effective strategy. [44:31] Learn from David Gerhardt's advice to give you the courage, stamina, and guts to succeed in the product-led business industry! About David Gerhardt He is a former Drift Chief Brand Officer and Privy Chief Marketing Officer who now focuses on consulting and the development of exitfive.com, a network for B2B marketing experts. He also conducts 1:1 counseling with a limited number of high-growth B2B firms; his book Founder Brand was launched in 2022 and quickly became the #1 best-selling Amazon in marketing. About Exit Five Thousands of B2B marketers sign up for the Exit Five Community every day to exchange practical advice, get feedback, and talk about the most successful marketing strategies right now. By listening to the Exit Five podcast, you could enhance your B2B marketing. The host for the event is Dave Gerhardt. Visit exitfive.com to engage with thousands of B2B marketing professionals by joining the community. Profile David Gerhardt on LinkedIn David Gerhardt on Spotify David Gerhardt on Twitter David Gerhardt Amazon Exit Five

Friend of the program, Dave Gerhardt, joins Chris and Megan on what feels like a Demand Gen Live throwback. The driving discussion is about self-reported attribution and how it's a key component in using your marketing as a two-way communication channel. They spend the second half of the discussion answering tactical questions from the audience.

Today's episode features a recording from Dave Gerhardt's Exit Five Podcast. Chris and Dave talk about articulating a company POV, refining your marketing strategy, a framework for demand generation, self-reported attribution, what's going on with LinkedIn, B2B ad creative, and building community. Thanks to our friends at Hatch for producing this episode. Get unlimited podcast editing at usehatch.fm.

Why Qualified Pipeline via Inbound?The whole team is focused on driving net new logo revenue. So Pete focuses his team on qualified pipeline to contribute to that goal, and be aligned with the rest of the team.They define “pipeline” as “total booked revenue” (= when a scheduled demo meeting takes place). Since they aim for a win rate of ≥ 20%, this allows Pete to work backward from their revenue goals, and determine how much pipeline he needs to drive to help meet it.How They Improved It:They focused on understanding their audience better.They get on sales and customer calls weekly. This gives them insights around pain points and needs prospective customers have.These insights help them continually optimize their messaging, in order to be more helpful and relevant. It also helps them learn where their target customers spend time or pay attention.This means that when they make big bets on channels to invest in, they aren't guessing.They invested heavily into refining their messaging & positioning.In a world where features are easily copied, Pete invested in differentiating Alyce by crafting a unique point of view and go-to-market message. This positioning provides a source for the entire team to draw from when they need to craft messaging or marketing creative.They brought in Dave Gerhardt, who helped them further refine how they thought about positioning and messaging for Alyce in a new and unique way.And once they had some concepts, they tested the new messaging on their homepage using Wynter, in order to look for leading indicators that the messaging would be successful and land the right way.They focused on harvesting more existing demand.They leverage about 25% of their resources and team on capturing existing demand. This includes using intent data to trigger more targeted outreach, retargeting on social, and a mix of branded & non-branded PPC programs.They focused on creating new demand.The biggest bet they've made is finding ways to create new customers and generate demand. They've done that in 2 broad steps:1. Create relevant and insightful content2. Distribute that content everywhere their target audience isThey made big bets on: Events (micro & virtual) Social (paid & organic) Co-marketing with other brands Investing in evangelists who speak on podcasts And communities Because they're tracking self-submitted, qualitative attribution, they're able to see the efficacy of these channels and find the ones that are most effective.So far, it's paying dividends. Top attributed channels are LinkedIn, Google Search, and Communities/Events.They approached communities with 2 main focuses: Bring value & education (don't just talk about Alyce) Find ways to let members experience Alyce's gifting For example, members might be sent gifts upon joining or completing certain milestones. This allows these marketers (= the community members they're reaching) to experience the value of Alyce in a more natural and generous way.ResultsAlyce had great momentum from past marketing leaders. With that as the foundation, this framework helped them increase the % of inbound qualified pipeline to 70%.Full episode here.

Connor Gross doesn't just talk marketing, he lives it. Meet the ultimate entrepreneur who, when he's not scaling eCommerce brands, is building his podcast empire. Marketing success can be summed up in one word: consistency. But playing the long game  requires patience. Connor Gross can tell you  exactly why it pays off. Daniel and Connor get into conversation on what it was like learning from great marketers like Dave Gerhardt and Mike Volpe, what not to do when starting an eCommerce business, and why every marketer needs a side hustle. You'll also hear about Connor's latest venture creating ready-to-race car artwork, why he's investing in Self Storage, and his podcast: The Next Generation, where he talks to entrepreneurs and other highly successful people all in their 20s. Dive in and meet the entrepreneur and marketer who turns side hustles into money spinners. Follow Connor: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/connor-gross-104360109 (linkedin.com/in/connor-gross-104360109) Twitter: https://twitter.com/c_gro (twitter.com/c_gro) Keep up to date with the latest news from The Marketing Millennials:. Follow Daniel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Dmurr68 (twitter.com/Dmurr68) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing (linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing)  Sign up to The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials/ (workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials)

Dave Gerhardt, Founder of ExitFive.com and author of Founder Brand, talks about sales and marketing alignment and how we should all be using our personal brands to promote ourselves instead of outsourcing. We also explore the idea of sales reps becoming marketers and the struggle companies now have with employees who have strong personal brands.

Travis sits down to interview PandaDoc's CMO, Nate Gilmore. We talk about why this change happened and what it means for the future of PandaDoc's marketing efforts. Nate details his perspective on his mistakes, lessons learned, and what he believes the short and long-term marketing plans are for his team moving forward. Together they watch a clip of Dave Gerhardt talking about marketing guardrails and react to what they believe are PandaDoc's marketing guardrails.

The BEST way to build trust with your customers is to share your story.Your PERSONAL story is your competitive advantage.Nobody can copy what you have experienced. Nobody can conjure up your stories.And, trust me, customers love authentic stories.What I'm talking about here is called the "Founder Brand" strategy. It's a new kind of marketing framework that uses the founder's (or the CEO's) unique experiences as leverage to grow sales, relationships, and company well-being. The 5 Benefits of Leveraging your company's "Founder Brand"Based Dave Gerhardt book and our experience with our clients:Organic inbound stream of dream clients who trust the leadership of the business and want to work with you. This means more clients, lower CAC, and higher LTV.Attracting, hiring, and maintaining top talent. Immediate feedback loop - learn from your clients and prospects what are their main pain points, learn the language they use to describe them, and test your offering and messaging, faster than anyone in your industry.Getting speaking opportunities on stages, both physical and digital.Getting noticed, and then appearing and getting quoted on leading industry mediaIf you want to learn more about it, check out episode 127 of the Business Growth Accelerator Show! And if you want to read the book, LMK, I might just send you one ;-)

Dave Gerhardt is a marketing expert. He has grown an audience of more than 130,000 people on LinkedIn and now is focusing his time on his paid community. In this conversation we spoke about walking, building a paid community, and how he started to grow his online brand in 2014. (0:00) Intro (0:35) Majoring in marketing and journalism at Wagner (5:15) Any signs of future in childhood (9:00) Why do we try to improve our weaknesses? (Managing Oneself by Peter Drucker) (10:20) How do you figure out if you should take the advice you see? (11:40) Starting to grow his podcast/brand in 2014 (15:54) Why Dave has started so many podcasts “My biggest flaw is starting things and never finishing them" (20:45) No longer doing CrossFit (22:30) The power of walking (27:15) Living for “the moment it clicks” (32:00) Literal vs. lateral (34:54) Harry Dry (36:42) Paid community (43:48) What to think about when starting a paid community (48:20) How do you reward engaging content (51:18) Maintaining sanity when every platform is vying for your attention (55:00) Thinking in dollar amounts (57:43) How has Dave changed over the years (1:05:00) Importance of deep work (1:08:10) Connecting with Dave Founder Brand by Dave Gerhardt - https://www.amazon.com/Founder-Brand-Story-Competitive-Advantage/dp/1544523408 Dave's Website - https://davegerhardt.com Dave's Twitter – https://twitter.com/davegerhardt Dave's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegerhardt/ Continue the conversation with me...