Podcast appearances and mentions of Holly Herndon

The artist, producer, and educator Jlin, born Jerrilynn Patton, first came out of the electronic dance music scene – specifically, the Chicago style of house music known as footwork. But she's also become a sought-after composer, and one of her works was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. Her collaborators include Icelandic pop star Bjork, composer Philip Glass, experimental electronic musician Holly Herndon, dance companies, and lots more. Jlin's unsettled rhythms, unexpected samples, and surprising sonic effects are layered, and played live (!) when she performs. Jlin joins us to play a set of pieces that draw on her typically bewildering array of sound sources, including a piece in six, “Iris”.Set list: 1. B12 2. Iris 3. The Precision of Infinity

Mika Tajima, Human Synth, 2021L'installation Human Synth traque en temps réel tous les messages envoyés sur la plateforme X, anciennement Twitter, à Paris sur une journée, pour anticiper leur contenu émotionnel, matérialisé sur un écran en une fumée colorée à la forme changeante. L'artiste mêle ainsi une technologie algorithmique des plus actuelles à une pratique ancestrale de prédiction de l'avenir : la capnomancie, ou l'art de lire l'avenir dans la fumée. Pour ce podcast, l'artiste Mika Tajima raconte les dessous de la création de cette œuvre et le philosophe Yves Citton revient sur la généalogie des moyens de communication et de prédiction du futur.CréditsÉcriture et réalisation : Jeanne Dreyfus Daboussy Production et éditorialisation : Clara GouraudEnregistrement : Ivan GarielAvec la participation de Mika Tajima, Yves Citton, et Olivier Font, conférencier au Centre PompidouVoice-over : Hélène BressiantExtraits musicaux : Marc Rebillet, Twitter Page ; Mika Vainio, Set the Controls to the Heart of the Sun ; Fatal Friction, Beautiful Dune ; Alva Noto, Xerox Monophaser ; Holly Herndon, Chorus ; French 79, Between the Buttons. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Alfredo Cramerotti and Auronda Scalera are a curatorial duo specialising in art and technology, dedicated to bridging digital and contemporary art.We either speak over-enthusiastically about AI or in fear of its impact on creativity. My guests stand somewhat in between, advocating for a better understanding of its potential as a tool which they base upon their experiences with artists. The latter have always been irreverent regarding technologies since pigment was blown onto a hand leaving its mysterious mark on a cave wall… So what happens now, with the metaverse, AI and virtual reality? Are these new exhibition spaces? And how to they affect the existing ones? Our discussion took us to lots of places, amongst which the installation created by artist duo Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst, THE CALL for the Serpentine, which enabled spectators to interact with an AI who had trained with choirs across the UK; we talk about artists who connect writing with sculpture, performance, and new technologies, such as Ana María Caballero, (who just sold a poem in an online auction of Bitcoin Ordinals inscriptions called Natively Digital, for 0.28 Bitcoin or $11,430 at Sotheby's), and much more. I also mention the great Jan Hopkins, an artist and writer based in Sheffield.Cramerotti and Scalera both teach at MA IESA University Paris & Kingston University London. They co-curated the Lumen Prize x Sotheby's plus this year and the Art Dubai Digital Section 2024. As a duo, they form the International Selection Committee of the Lumen Prize and work as nominators for the Maxxi-Bvlgari Prize for Digital Art. While co-directing Multiplicity-Art in Digital, an online platform promoting women artists with a focus on diversity and inclusion, they spearhead Web to Verse, a project dedicated to fostering research on the evolution of digital art from the 1960s to the present day.This multifaceted profile has led them to speak at prestigious events such as the UK House of Lords' All-Party Parliamentary Group, the House of Beautiful Business, the AI House (during the World Economic Forum), the Riyadh Art Program for the KSA Visual Art Commission. They have worked with the UK Government Art Collection, the British Council Visual Arts Acquisition Committee, the Italian Ministry of Culture for the Italian Council 2022-24 program, and the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.Support Exhibitionistas:HOW CAN YOU CONTRIBUTE?  With a one-off donation Become a member. Affordable tiers for less than the price of a coffee in London (and you receive my episode notes): https://www.patreon.com/c/exhibitionistaspodcast/membership Get in touch if none of these work. We can find a way!Art, exhibitions, AI, technology, community, contemporary art, metaverse, digital art, immersive experiences, art criticism.

"We're pro-AI and we're pro-consent. Those things don't have to be mutually exclusive." The activists and artists talk about the hot button issues facing AI's governance. The world is deep in the throes of a heightening debate over AI. Just this week, the Vatican published an essay addressing the potential, and risks, of AI in a new high-tech world as well as its intersection with religion and humanity. In politics, figures like Elon Musk are advising citizens that the US government will become increasingly "AI-first," using data about its individuals to make federal decisions. And in the world of culture and the humanities, the alarm has been sounded on AI's ability to both aid in creativity and homogenise the art and music being produced and consumed, raising concerns that much of what's being released is sounding increasingly the same. There are probably no better experts on this far-ranging topic than Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst, two Berlin-based academics and artists who have entrenched themselves in the world of AI ethics, advocacy and art for the past two decades. Now married, they come from DIY punk backgrounds, both having lived in the Bay Area pre-tech bubble while Herndon completed a Ph.D in Computer Music at Stanford. Their work is primarily concerned with how AI is governed as it becomes more ubiquitous in our everyday lives, and what its implications are for ownership of AI-generated artworks. In this urgent and timely RA Exchange, the duo talk about their shift closer to the art world following their 2024 exhibition at The Whitney Biennial and their most recent show at Serpentine Gallery in London, The Call, which will close at the end of this month. It's one of many forward-thinking projects they've worked on to move away from the fear narrative dominating dialogue around how AI is influencing art and music, instead showcasing how machine learning can be used to push art forward. They also address their view of socialist democratic values with the rise of the far right, raising a young child and doing work that sits squarely between activism and art. Listen to the episode in full. – Chloe Lula

"We're pro-AI and we're pro-consent. Those things don't have to be mutually exclusive." The activists and artists talk about the hot button issues facing AI's governance. The world is deep in the throes of a heightening debate over AI. Just this week, the Vatican published an essay addressing the potential, and risks, of AI in a new high-tech world as well as its intersection with religion and humanity. In politics, figures like Elon Musk are advising citizens that the US government will become increasingly "AI-first," using data about its individuals to make federal decisions. And in the world of culture and the humanities, the alarm has been sounded on AI's ability to both aid in creativity and homogenise the art and music being produced and consumed, raising concerns that much of what's being released is sounding increasingly the same. There are probably no better experts on this far-ranging topic than Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst, two Berlin-based academics and artists who have entrenched themselves in the world of AI ethics, advocacy and art for the past two decades. Now married, they come from DIY punk backgrounds, both having lived in the Bay Area pre-tech bubble while Herndon completed a Ph.D in Computer Music at Stanford. Their work is primarily concerned with how AI is governed as it becomes more ubiquitous in our everyday lives, and what its implications are for ownership of AI-generated artworks. In this urgent and timely RA Exchange, the duo talk about their shift closer to the art world following their 2024 exhibition at The Whitney Biennial and their most recent show at Serpentine Gallery in London, The Call, which will close at the end of this month. It's one of many forward-thinking projects they've worked on to move away from the fear narrative dominating dialogue around how AI is influencing art and music, instead showcasing how machine learning can be used to push art forward. They also address their view of socialist democratic values with the rise of the far right, raising a young child and doing work that sits squarely between activism and art. Listen to the episode in full. – Chloe Lula

In this conversation, the Le Random team reflects on a whirlwind 2024 in digital art and looks ahead to 2025. Host Peter Bauman (Editor-in-Chief at Le Random) is joined by thefunnyguys (CEO) and Conrad House (Collection Lead). Chapters

Full episode released to subscribers: 20 Jun 2024 | Subscribe --> https://newmodels.io _ Hallucinating Sense in the Era of Infinity Content Written & read by Caroline Busta Document Journal SS24 https://www.documentjournal.com/2024/05/technical-images-film01-angelicism-art-showtime-true-detective-shein/ What if, in a time of infinity content, a meta-reading of the shape and feel of content has become a survival skill? What if we thought about generative AI more as an expression of an epochal shift in human communication than a root cause? More than transmitting specific information, “content”—whether a mukbang video or this 3600 word essay—is now foremost a conductor of “vibes.” "Hallucinating Sense in the Era of Infinity Content" was written in early 2024 by Caroline Busta for Document Journal SS 2024. Editors: Drew Zeiba & Camille Sojit Pechat  Audio production: Lil Internet In the training data: Vilém Flusser, Kevin Munger, K Allado McDowell, Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst, Jon Rafman, Dean Kissick, Theo Anthony, Lola Jusidman, Film01, Bernard Stiegler, Olivia Kan-Sperling, Chris Blohm, Niklas Bildstein Zaar, Andreas Grill, Anna Uddenberg, Simon Denny, Trevor Paglen, Joshua Citarella, Jak Ritger, Hari Kunzru, Loretta Fahrenholz, Dorian Electra, Michael Franz, Kolja Reichart, Shein, Lil Internet & the NM Discord.

On finishing the project of music, on TikTokCore and SpotifyCore, on music as cosplay and the technicity of cultural imperialism, on the bureaucratic turn in the arts, on being dangerous. Lecture given for my beloved DMR at Columbia University at the beginning of December. Feeling a bit bolder than usual on this one, but it's cuz my toddler is sleeping good.

This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 14 Dec 2024 | Subscribe --> newmodels.io // In part due to the rise of AI-enabled systems, we are witnessing a shift in where and how the creative act takes place. It is a phenomenon that artists Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst have been grappling with for more than a decade through their music and their work with machine learning and its governance. With their exhibition “The Call” on view at the Serpentine in London through February 2nd and their book All Media is Training Data out this week, Holly and Mat join NM to talk about a new paradigm of artmaking and artist subject. We also discuss a new kind of collector and the tech-literate gallerists that are bridging legacy cultural systems with this particular future. For more: herndondryhurst.studio @hollyherndon & @matdryhurst Source.Plus public diffusion model Spawning.ai data governance for generative AI "The Call" Serpentine North Gallery, London All Media is Training Data (Serpentine, König, 2024)

Eine Spezialdiskothek im Rahmen des SRF-Schwerpunktthemas «KI und wir». Was hat Künstliche Intelligenz in der Musik zu suchen? Viel und Vielfältiges. Das zeigt die Diskothek mit KI-Experte und Musikwissenschaftler Michael Harenberg (Hochschule der Künste Bern) und Tonmeister Andreas Werner. Wir hören in der Sendung Produkten aus einfachen Anwendungen zu, die jeder bei sich auf den Computer laden kann. Musik per Knopfdruck? Nein, so einfach ist es dann doch nicht. In einem zweiten Teil tauchen wir in die erstaunlich lange Geschichte ein von Musik und Automation. Sie geht zurück bis ins Mittelalter. Teil drei nimmt sodann Werke unter die Lupe, die mit KI entstanden sind und wo KI in einen Dialog tritt mit menschlichen Künstler*innen auf oder hinter der Bühne. Musik von Jennifer Walshe, Holly Herndon, George E. Lewis oder Brian Eno. Gespielte Musik: · Tomek Kolczynski: Blue Serenade, 2024. Eigenverlag. · · Lejaren Hiller und Leonard Isaacson: Illiac-Suite, 1957. Quelle: Youtube · · Wolfgang Amadé Mozart: Musikalisches Würfelspiel. Aufnahme von Neville Marriner, Cembalo. Philips, 1991 · · David Cope/Experiments in musical intelligence: Bach-Invention Nr. 1, Chopin-Mazurka. Centaur Records, 1994. · · Holly Herndon: Proto. Album bei 4AD, 2019. · · George E Lewis: The reincarnation of blind Tom. SWR Symphonieorchester, Leitung Susanne Blumenthal. Aufnahme des SWR, 2024. · · Jennifer Walshe: Late Anthology of Early Music. Tetbind Records, 2020. · · Maxime Mantovani: Improvisation 23/03/2022, Forum IRCAM. Quelle: Youtube. · · Brian Eno, Peter Chilvers: Reflection. Apple-Download, 2017.

On Thursday, I was at the Serpentine Gallery in London for the opening of The Call, an exhibition by Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst. The work, as they write in the program, is a commentary on how “the process of collecting data raises questions about the governance and permission of its use.” and so is this episode.. See the scans in the youtube version of this episode! https://youtu.be/BXBF1MsvOlE Full Show Notes: https://thejaymo.net/2024/10/06/2426-shape-thief/ Experience.Computer: https://experience.computer/ Worldrunning.guide: https://worldrunning.guide/ Subscriber Zine! https://startselectreset.com/ Permanently moved is a personal podcast 301 seconds in length, written and recorded by @thejaymo Subscribe to the Podcast: https://permanentlymoved.online/

In this episode, Tricia talks about two thinkers who have influenced her thoughts about the Katbot experiment:   Dr. Ruha Benjamin, specifically her new book IMAGINATION: A MANIFESTO  https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324020974   Holly Herndon's work, music and thoughts on 'identity play' Explore her TED talk https://www.ted.com/talks/holly_herndon_what_if_you_could_sing_in_your_favorite_musician_s_voice/transcript?subtitle=en   The ALA Information Literacy Framework: https://www.ala.org/acrl/standards/ilframework#:~:text=The%20Framework%20opens%20the%20way,themselves%20in%20that%20research%3B%20and   Want to try out the quiz Katbot and Kathleen took for this episode?   https://www.autostraddle.com/quiz-plan-a-90s-trip-to-the-mall-and-ill-tell-you-which-90s-pop-hit-you-are/   Reach out to us with your questions Tricia@shiftingschools.com   Want to send a voice memo to us? https://unhingedcollaboration.com/  

Everything is not what it seems. We can easily disguise ourselves in both the digital and physical world. This hour, TED speakers explore the ways we go incognito... from espionage to virtual reality. Guests include former CIA Chief of Disguise Jonna Mendez, artist Holly Herndon, anthropologist Mary L. Gray and digital fashion designer Gala Marija Vrbanic. Original broadcast date: August 26, 2022. TED Radio Hour+ subscribers now get access to bonus episodes, with more ideas from TED speakers and a behind the scenes look with our producers. A Plus subscription also lets you listen to regular episodes (like this one!) without sponsors. Sign-up at: plus.npr.org/tedLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Barcelona-based singer-songwriter Maria Arnal performs two songs blending her passions for technology and art with folk and techno-pop soundscapes. Using Holly+ (a digital twin of musician Holly Herndon's voice), alongside AI-generated voices and a portable organ controlled through her laptop, she sings a cover of a medieval apocalyptic chant followed by a new release.

Barcelona-based singer-songwriter Maria Arnal performs two songs blending her passions for technology and art with folk and techno-pop soundscapes. Using Holly+ (a digital twin of musician Holly Herndon's voice), alongside AI-generated voices and a portable organ controlled through her laptop, she sings a cover of a medieval apocalyptic chant followed by a new release.

A.I.-generated art has flooded the internet, and a lot of it is derivative, even boring or offensive. But what could it look like for artists to collaborate with A.I. systems in making art that is actually generative, challenging, transcendent?Holly Herndon offered one answer with her 2019 album “PROTO.” Along with Mathew Dryhurst and the programmer Jules LaPlace, she built an A.I. called “Spawn” trained on human voices that adds an uncanny yet oddly personal layer to the music. Beyond her music and visual art, Herndon is trying to solve a problem that many creative people are encountering as A.I. becomes more prominent: How do you encourage experimentation without stealing others' work to train A.I. models? Along with Dryhurst, Jordan Meyer and Patrick Hoepner, she co-founded Spawning, a company figuring out how to allow artists — and all of us creating content on the internet — to “consent” to our work being used as training data.In this conversation, we discuss how Herndon collaborated with a human chorus and her “A.I. baby,” Spawn, on “PROTO”; how A.I. voice imitators grew out of electronic music and other musical genres; why Herndon prefers the term “collective intelligence” to “artificial intelligence”; why an “opt-in” model could help us retain more control of our work as A.I. trawls the internet for data; and much more.Mentioned:“Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt” by Holly Herndon“xhairymutantx” by Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst, for the Whitney Museum of Art“Fade” by Holly Herndon“Swim” by Holly Herndon“Jolene” by Holly Herndon and Holly+“Movement” by Holly Herndon“Chorus” by Holly Herndon“Godmother” by Holly Herndon“The Precision of Infinity” by Jlin and Philip GlassHolly+Book Recommendations:Intelligence and Spirit by Reza NegarestaniChildren of Time by Adrian TchaikovskyPlurality by E. Glen Weyl, Audrey Tang and ⿻ CommunityThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show's production team also includes Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Sonia Herrero and Jack Hamilton.

Jennifer Walshe is one of the coolest people we know. Her artistic work and thought has broken our brains for years, leaving us shipwrecked in its torrential waves of reference and irony and joy and conceptual viscera.We talk about her recent piece for the Unsound Dispatch, 13 Ways of Looking at AI, Art & Music — a series of vignettes that in their totality assemble into one of the most coherent accountings of what it is we're all experiencing.Some references from the ep:Listen to Things Know Things on RTÉ Lyric FM. Hopefully you're aware of the music duo Matmos — Jennifer references this record in the context of discussing conceptual work. Jennifer also speaks often of her close collaborator Jon Leidecker (Wobbly), who has a few absolutely killer sets with Matmos, including this one.You can interact with Walshe's Text Score Dataset here.We continue to enjoy references to Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst's Have I Been Trained (https://haveibeentrained.com/), a way to search for your (or anyone's) work in large, public, AI training datasets.Two movies everyone should see: Catfish the Movie and HER. (We'd also recommend Catfish the TV show, of course).Jennifer mentions the computer scientist Kate Devlin's work, especially “Turned On: Science, Sex and Robots.”If you haven't googled a picture of Paro the Therapy Seal, do it.Jennifer's record “A Late Anthology of Early Music Vol. 1: Ancient to Renaissance” is a top lifetime record as far as we both are concerned. Check out track 16 for that Palestrina. It's CRAZY. To wrap it up, check out Ted Gioia's Substack and Bruce Sterling's writing (the concept Walshe references is "Dark Euphoria").

Luciana Parisi has produced some of the 21st century's most daring and bold work in the theories of cybernetics, information, and computation. Her work has had a major impact on both Marek and Roberto's artistic practices, specifically her early work in the inorganic components of human reproduction. Just a brief content note — we mention some complex topics including consent and suicide at the top of the pod, specifically in the context of David Marriott's concept of “Revolutionary Suicide”. These concepts are not extensively discussed throughout, but are nonetheless heavy topics. We strongly recommend three texts in parallel with this conversation:Probably Marek's favorite piece of theory: Abstract Sex: Philosophy, Biotechnology and the Mutations of DesireA book more specifically scoped to the subject of this conversation, which attacks the biophysicalist metaphors at the ground of how AI research markets itself: Contagious Architecture: Computation, Aesthetics, and SpaceThe essay: The Alien Subject of AI.Some references from the conversation that are likely interesting to any listener:If you haven't read Octavia Butler's Xenogenesis (renamed Lilith's Brood), we strongly recommend these amazing pieces of science fiction.If you're unfamiliar with the CCRU, play around on the CCRU website and buy this unhinged compendium from our friends at Urbanomic (they have a super sexy new edition just out now). If you haven't read Sadie Plant's Zeroes + Ones: Digital Women and the New Technoculture, it's seriously an essential read if you're interested in computation.We briefly make fun of the feature film “The Creator”, which it looks like you can stream on major platforms. We mention this in the context of Delueze and Guattari's “War Machine” — we recommend their “Nomadology: The War Machine” (if you follow Marek on Instagram, you'll note that he's obsessed with the exteriority of war machines from the state).When we start to talk about information theory, Luciana mentions Claude Shannon (one of the fathers of modern information theory), Cecile Malaspina (“An Epistemology of Noise”), and Karen Barad (“What is the Measure of Nothingness?”).Francois Laruelle is a major influence to Luciana here, in her chapter in Choreomata, and elsewhere. His corpus of work is famously intractable, but her chapter in Choreomata is a good way in.Luciana mentions Holly Herndon's work (we strongly recommend Holly+ and https://haveibeentrained.com/, alongside her and Mat Dryhurst's podcast, which was a huge inspiration to us when starting Disintegrator).Everyone should read Hito Steyerl's work “Mean Images” on NLR as they should Sylvia Wynter's “Towards the Autopoetic Turn/Overturn, its Autonomy of Human Agency and Extraterritoriality of (Self-)Cognition”.

Welcome back to Transmissions. This week on the show, which brings our 2023 season to a close, we are joined by Matt Werth of RVNG to discuss the life and multi-dimensional sound worlds of Pauline Anna Strom. This month, the label released Echoes, Spaces, Lines, which collects the first three albums from the Bay Area synthesist and composer, including Trans-Millenia Consort, Plot Zero, and Spectre, as well as Oceans of Time, an unreleased record included in the box set for the first time.  An energy worker, reptile enthusiast, and imagination specialist, Anna Strom's work continues to gleam after her passing in 2020. Home to releases by Sensations Fix, Craig Leon, Holly Herndon, K Leimer, just to name a few favorites, among many more, RVNG is one of the most exciting reissue slash new music labels going, and it was a real treat to connect with Werth to discuss his time with Pauline and her unique and singular musical path.  Transmissions is a part of the Talkhouse Podcast Network. Visit the Talkhouse for more interviews, fascinating reads, and podcasts. This episode concludes our 2023 season, but never fear, we'll be back early in the new year with more strange conversations for our strange times. Only the good shit. Aquarium Drunkard is powered by its patrons. Keep the servers humming and help us continue doing it by pledging your support via our Patreon page. 

We step into the art world by way of a long profile of Holly Herndon, an experimental artist and musician who works with artificial intelligence to create provocative, strange, and deeply personal works that serve as meta commentaries on the intersection between art + tech + society. Through a start-up she co-founded, Herndon is also engaged in advocacy work to build a “consent layer” for artists in AI infrastructures. We critically discuss the political / cultural economy of these dynamics — these ways of seeing and means of producing artworks — both old and new. ••• Holly Herndon's Infinite Art https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/11/20/holly-herndons-infinite-art Subscribe to hear more analysis and commentary in our premium episodes every week! https://www.patreon.com/thismachinekills Hosted by Jathan Sadowski (www.twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (www.twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (www.twitter.com/braunestahl)

In part two of our 3-part series on AI + You, we offer an actionable playbook on how AI can help us scale ourselves personally. Personal scale is all about broadening your skill set and strengthening your human relationships. To guide you, host Reid Hoffman speaks to Stanford HAI's Fei-Fei Li, Inflection's Mustafa Suleyman, tech-centric artist Holly Herndon and more AI pioneers. You'll discover how AI can amplify your ability as a leader, coworker, collaborator and friend. Read a transcript of this episode: https://mastersofscale.com/Subscribe to the Masters of Scale weekly newsletter: https://mastersofscale.com/subscribeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When I make a specific effort to talk to people about AI, the responses range from the occasional Chat GPT enthusiast to a much-more-common feigning of indifference, hinting at a deep insecurity and probably-quite-pronounced fear. This week's guest is perfectly placed to offer a degree of reassurance, or at least a bit more of a balanced view on the coming storm. And make no mistake, it is coming. Mat Dryhurst, along with Holly Herndon, has long been engaged in important work at the intersection of music and emergent tech, from the Holly+ project with its AI and web3 interaction, to haveibeentrained.com, which enables artists to opt out of Large Language Model training datasets, and the Interdependence podcast. We discuss aspects of those projects, as well as the more general trends and developments that will impact musicians and creative people over the coming months and years. This is an important one, covering some really crucial areas, but it's still a highly enjoyable listen... so get involved! If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features regular bonus podcasts and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation there in the public channels, so please do! Listen to all (most of) the music discussed on the show via the Not A Diving Podcast Spotify playlistFor more links and other info visit the official Scuba websiteFollow Scuba: twitter instagram bandcamp spotify apple music beatport

First released: 2 May 2023 | To join New Models, find us via https://patreon.com/newmodels & https://newmodels.substack.com Few, if any, are more conversant in AI's impact on creative production than HOLLY HERNDON and MAT DRYHURST. In part this is because the artist-musicians (and hosts of the Interdependence podcast) have also become, out of necessity, technologists. And perhaps it's due to their DIY drive to not just comment on but actually build the tools and protocols artists need to more effectively navigate the 21st century that they are optimistic about it. In a conversation ranging from new baselines for Art to the future terms of IP and the horizons of identity and ownership, Mat and Holly share frameworks and neologisms unlocking a fresh framework for thinking about the AI-enhanced culture to come. For more: Tw: @matdryhurst & @hollyherndon https://patreon.com/interdependence https://spawning.ai

Last month, in April 2023, a song that used the AI-generated voices of Drake and The Weeknd went wildly viral across social media before being taken down from streaming services for breaching copyright. Shortly after, Grimes took a more permissive approach, launching a platform to help fans create derivative music using her AI voice model, called Elf.Tech. In the midst of these developments in AI music, Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst stand out as veterans who have have been on the forefront of the intersection of music, community, technology, and AI for many years. In 2021, they released a DAO-governed AI voice twin of Holly's, called Holly+, and their more recent project, Spawning, offers tools for creators to manage their AI identities. In this conversation, we're also joined by Jesse Walden, who originally got his start in crypto through music, by being a music manager before co-founding Mediachain, a startup which sought to attribute every piece of media on the internet using blockchains. We weave through the economics of AI music and derivative creation, the impact AI will have on the distribution of creator success, how hyper-personalization maps to listener behavior, industry regulation, impacts for record labels, and more.Jesse and Li are cofounders and General Partners at Variant, an early-stage web3 venture firm. Learn more at https://variant.fund/Links: https://spawning.ai/https://holly.plus/Timestamps: • (00:00) Episode preview • (02:27) Spawning a baby and a startup • (04:07) Holly+ & AI-driven content creation • (07:02) Community participation & creation using Holly+ • (11:16) Grimes & the economics of derivative works • (17:32) Crypto in the evolution of AI music • (21:03) Jesse Walden's journey from music to crypto • (25:41) How AI impacts the power law of music success • (36:53) Music consumption modes: passive vs. active • (39:47) Hyper-personalization of music  • (47:45) Updates on Spawning: AI tools for artists • (50:19) AI, data, and creator consent • (53:14) Regulation & adaptation for record labels • (58:59) Worldcoin, voice models, and digital identity • (01:03:31) Prediction for the future of music: what will stay the same?

Original broadcast date: August 26, 2022. Everything is not what it seems. We can easily disguise ourselves in both the digital and physical world. This hour, TED speakers explore the ways we go incognito... from espionage to virtual reality. Guests include former CIA Chief of Disguise Jonna Mendez, artist Holly Herndon, anthropologist Mary L. Gray and digital fashion designer Gala Marija Vrbanic. TED Radio Hour+ subscribers now get access to bonus episodes, with more ideas from TED speakers and a behind the scenes look with our producers. A Plus subscription also lets you listen to regular episodes (like this one!) without sponsors. Sign-up at: plus.npr.org/ted

Natasha and Deana unpack two news stories from this past week, as well as their feelings from hanging out IRL at Consensus. First, they look at AI and music, specifically focused on the story around Grimes' invitation for people to use her AI voice in songs.  Next, they looked at the Poolsuite X Ralph Lauren collaboration, and discussed the commercial opportunities for digital fashion. Finally, they talked about the importance to gather as a community IRL, following their Consensus hoedown.   --Subscribe to the free Boys Club weekly newsletter.--   Show notes: Holly Herndon, Holly+ Grimes' tweet Poolsuite x Ralph Lauren collab

The Verge's Nilay Patel explains how a spurious collaboration between Drake and The Weeknd started a copyright fight over generative AI. Holly Herndon introduces her AI alterego, Holly+. This episode was produced by Amanda Lewellyn, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Avishay Artsy, engineered by Paul Robert Mounsey, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained  Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Stimmen und Songs, die von KI generiert werden, sorgen für Aufsehen. Wir finden: Generierte Stimmen sind kein Grund für Panik und Zentauren könnten für spannende Musik sorgen. Ausserdem: Könnte die UK den grösste Deal in der Gamegeschichte kippen? Und wir feiern 45 Jahre Spam. Der Podcast im Überblick: (00:02:33) Microsoft und Activision Blizzard: Deal or No Deal? (00:13:47) Spam: Spam Spam Spaaaaaam! (00:38:44) KI-Musik: Haben Sänger:innen bald ausgedient? Links: KI-Musik * Sondtrack von KI-Drake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlhqJsjzQ8A * TED Talk von Holly Herndon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cbCYwgQkTE * Improv von David Dolan mit der KI von Oded Ben-Tal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIFbvgmYBA0 * Digital Podcast vom 28. Februar 2020 https://www.srf.ch/audio/digital-podcast/wenn-computer-komponieren?id=11718609 * Digital Podcast vom 6. März 2020 https://www.srf.ch/audio/digital-podcast/wenn-kuenstliche-intelligenz-komponiert?id=11722755 Spam: * Spam von Monthy Python: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bW4vEo1F4E * John Veitch replied to Spam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o5hSxvN_-s&t=17s NHL: * eNL am Sonntag ab 14:00 auf Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/mysportsch   SRF Geek Sofa bei Discord: https://discord.gg/geeksofa

The generation of music content through AI has grown at a rate much faster than anyone anticipated in the last month. The technology we thought might have been a few months away, has accelerated to the point where AI has become a dominant talking point in the music space.In the space half a year, we have gone from a problematic fake rapper Fn Meka signing to Capitol before being dropped over moral issues, David Guetta creating a fake Eminem sample and China's AI pop hit hitting over a million streams to a fake AI-assisted Drake and The Weeknd song that had to be pulled off Spotify, a fake Oasis circa'97 album in its entirety, Grimes saying she will share her royalties with AI-generated songs that use her likeness and rap songs using deceased or contrasting voices to create new songs or versions of old classics.It brings up questions about human creativity, copyright, moral standpoints, inherent biases in datasets and how sentient Chat GPT really appears to be.On this episode, Niall and Andrea cover all these flashpoints of AI in recent months, discuss the cautionary tales, academic angles and artistic ones, like Holly Herndon's work in the space for a number of years now. Plus, we create so AI-generated content of our own... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In den letzten Tagen ging ein vermeintlich neuer Song von Drake und The Weeknd viral. Der Song wurde allerdings gar nicht von den beiden Musikern eingesungen, sondern von einer KI. Wie gut kann Künstliche Intelligenz die menschliche Stimme schon imitieren? Hier entlang geht's zu den Links unserer Werbepartner: https://detektor.fm/werbepartner/popfilter >> Artikel zum Nachlesen: https://detektor.fm/musik/popfilter-holly-herndon-jolene-feat-holly

In den letzten Tagen ging ein vermeintlich neuer Song von Drake und The Weeknd viral. Der Song wurde allerdings gar nicht von den beiden Musikern eingesungen, sondern von einer KI. Wie gut kann Künstliche Intelligenz die menschliche Stimme schon imitieren? Hier entlang geht's zu den Links unserer Werbepartner: https://detektor.fm/werbepartner/popfilter >> Artikel zum Nachlesen: https://detektor.fm/musik/popfilter-holly-herndon-jolene-feat-holly

In this 50th episode of Flavortone, Alec and Nick settle deep in cups of “earl grey, hot” from the replicator for an entry into the Star Ship Flavorphonia Captain's Log. Citing Star Trek's Captain Jean-Luc Picard, the duo take this ancient maritime convention of record keeping at sea to trace various other epistemic fault-lines in the practice and theory of notation. The duo consider the “log” as a mundane account which transcends its quantitative form in generating unanticipated moral and aesthetic inventories. Branching from this analysis, the broader discussion includes consideration of a tweet by Holly Herndon on the stakes of creative work alongside AI, Deleuze & Guattari's emphasis on expression dictating methods, the holodeck and other utopian imaginaries in Star Trek, the notation practice of Pascale Criton, the Ryan Trecartin film “center jenny” (2013), Anthony Braxton, the daily-life “logging” involved in gardening, cooking, home-improvement, and more.

On this episode we have the host of 301, Jay Springett, on to talk about Izumi Suzuki's proto-cyberpunk, character-based short story collection Terminal Boredom. This is a unique episode of Agitator, in that we actually talk about the book. As Jay puts it, it's “punk as f**k.” We talk about: Foghorn Leghorn, guests who listen to the show, Hit Parade of Tears, Suzuki's hand in inventing cyberpunk, her husband's jazz, SF Magazine, mothers becoming chairs, Black Mirror style, not believing what you see on TV, natural vs. artificial insemination, the GETOZ, cyberpunk vs. slice of life future fiction, sleeping with your phone, people who can't talk and drive, unlocking the formula of Suzuki's storytelling, entering people's dreams, sci-fi as a tool to find out what's wrong with society, nostalgic for a time when you could make money writing, Throw Away Your Books, Rally in the Streets, Endless Waltz, talking to people who are off Twitter, you can just turn shit off, where podcast traffic comes from, Kelby reads Izumi Suzuki's Wikipedia page, keypunch operators, Violence Without a Cause, IZUMI, this bad girl, getting offered a lot of money to narrate a controversial book, the prepper mindset, “it's not deepfakes to worry about, it's things being fake deep,” Holly Herndon's PROTO, getting job interviews with Chat GPT, the difference in Americans vs. British e-mail style, our favorite Suzuki stories, writing lessons we can take from Terminal Boredom, the benefit of translation, Murakami writing Norwegian Wood to become a bestseller, the invention of cell phone culture, figuring out the dumbest thing people can do with technology, primitive time travel, the Mandela Effect, and Cyberpunk 2077 with new ray tracing effects. Links: And Lately, the Sun, the solarpunk anthology with Jay's badass story (mentioned on the Patreon episode). Subscribe to the Agitator Patreon for even more thought-provoking conversation. The second part to this episode drops Monday! On that episode, we talk about: Voting on whether to drop the episodes all at once, listening to podcasts at 3x speed, LitRPGs, the Cradle series, SimLit, KickFlipLit, finding yourself fascinated by things you “shouldn't” like, Beware of Chicken, Travis Baldree's books, Scott McClanahan, prose doesn't always have to be amazing, The Corporation Wars, Alan Watt's The Book, Vedanta, people as expressions of the universe, David's Achille's Heel, being able to understand conspiracy theories, knowing when to privately understand something and play dumb, Victorian hollow earth books, the Flat Earth psyop, “thinking with” ideas, Boomers believing everything they see on the internet, Puffy Coat Pope drip, the dissociation of art with human effort, where do humans go from here?, and internet end times guy, talking in virtual reality, Dream's MSP roleplaying server, the way D&D reshaped people's relation to story, the popularity of “lore,” Hamlet on the Holodeck, Synthetic Worlds, hypertext novels, interactive fiction, the failure of “chat room” as a metaphor, Royal Road stories, fandoms influencing a story, protecting your potential vs. using it, the whirlpool element of writing, the fluoride stare you get when you talk about self-publishing, focusing on readers instead of prestige, getting over the idea of “selling out,” succeeding too soon, what we like about writing, getting the cover before you write the book, Rick Rubin's book as a bible, and the shift away from expertisism.

On this week's programme we're looking at the explosion of interest in the role of artificial intelligence, particularly since the arrival of a new generation of AI powered chatbots like Google Bard, DALL-E 2 and Open Al's ChatGPT, which is reportedly the fastest growing consumer app of all time. Tina Daheley talks to two visual artists using AI in their work; Dr Melisa Achoko Allela and Jeremiah Ikongio. Melisa's virtual reality storytelling project uses ChatGPT to help retell and digitise traditional African stories. Jeremiah uses an AI algorithm to generate new artworks based on the style of the late Nigerian modernist painter Uche Okeke. Jeremiah has since developed his own AI web application AfroDreams to create a mix of contemporary and traditional images. The Swedish drama director, Jenny Elfving and Polish science researcher Piotr Mirowski are two members of the creative team behind the AI experimental theatre company Improbotics. The company have developed an onstage chatbot called A.L.Ex, which can generate lines for actors to respond to during spontaneous improvised performances. We hear A.L.Ex and the actors in action in the programme. US artist Holly Herndon works with computer software and AI to create innovative music, songs and sounds. She told the BBC's Andrea Kidd how she has developed a digital computer twin called Holly + that can sing melodies in a number of languages and styles using Holly's original voice. Producers: Anna Bailey, Andrea Kidd and Hannah Dean. (Photo: Improbotics perform on stage. Credit: Eleanora Briscoe/Edinburgh International Improv Festival 2020)

What if you could create new music using your favorite musician's voice? Sharing her melodic gifts with the world, multidisciplinary artist Holly Herndon introduces Holly+, an AI-powered instrument that lets people sing with her own voice. Musician Pher joins her onstage to demonstrate this mind-blowing tech while singing into two microphones -- one that amplifies his natural voice and another that makes him sound just like Holly. Following the talk, Sherrell delves into the exciting promise of this technology -- while also highlighting potentially insidious applications to watch out for.

A new report shows how the authorities in Iran can track and control protestors phones. An investigation by The Intercept news organisation has found that mobile phone coverage is being switched from a healthy 5G or 4G network to slow and clunky 2G coverage when protestors gather. This means they no longer can communicate using encrypted messages or calls on their smartphones and instead have to rely up traditional phone calls or SMS messages which can be intercepted and understood easily. This, according to the report is being done by a web programme. One of reports authors Sam Biddle, a journalist specialising in the misuse of power in technology, is on the programme. Policing the metaverse Imagine being attacked in virtual reality – will the experience be as traumatic as in real life? Perhaps not yet but in the near future if we are living as least part of our live in the Metaverse, crime will also be part of the virtual life. But currently there is little if no protection if a crime committed against our virtual selves. Now Europol – the European Union Agency for Law Enforcement Cooperation – has published a report into Policing the Metaverse. Journalist Emma Woollacott has been reading the report and she explains the many perils that we could face and also how we need to act now to manage these crimes in the Metaverse. Hollyplus -a digital twin AI that sings anything you want to (even if you can't!) Imagine being able to sing any song you like – and in any language you choose – even in musical styles that you have never studied? That's now possible thanks to artist, musician and composer Holly Herndon. She has trained a computer algorithm to sing like her – the cloned voice can sing in any language or style she chooses – even extending her own vocal range. The project is called Hollyplus and the digital twin has just released its version of Dolly Parton's song Jolene. The real Holly explains how she's done this. The programme is presented by Gareth Mitchell with expert commentary from Bill Thompson. Studio Manager: Sue Maillot Producer: Ania Lichtarowicz (Image: Protest in Iran. Credit: Getty Images)

Sterling Crispin, artist and software developer and Holly Herndon, host of the Interdependence podcast, talk about the problems that creators face, some potential solutions, and the debate over creator royalties.  Show highlights: how Holly and Sterling got into crypto how Holly used the Holly Plus Project to pay royalties how NFTs change the economic experience of being a creator how creators make money and why it is so difficult for most of them whether NFT royalties are necessary for artists why creators are the ones that should decide to charge royalties or not how the enforcement of royalties also occurs in the traditional art world whether NFT royalties only benefit big players vs. smaller creators what shifts could make paying royalties a norm, the way paying for music streaming became a norm over piracy other solutions to helping creators earn from their work besides NFT royalties whether NFT creators should use blocklists whether people objecting to blocklists can be hypocritical about decentralization  whether creators can build their own marketplaces how a profit-sharing model among creators could work Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Chainalysis Minima Sterling: Twitter Website Blog post: NFTs and Crypto Art: The Sky Is not Falling Holly: Twitter Podcast Holly's AI Video Episode Links Previous episodes of The Chopping Block debating NFT Royalties: The Chopping Block: Two on Two Debate: NFT Royalty Throwdown! The Chopping Block: Was This Gary Gensler's Most Liked Tweet? The Chopping Block: Did OFAC Overstep by Sanctioning Tornado Cash? NFT Royalties Magic Eden Magic Eden Moves to Optional Royalties and Heats Up the Debate Metashield Solana Could Get Enforceable NFT Royalties Via New Metaplex Standard Why NFT royalties are almost impossible to enforce on-chain Galaxy Digital report showing that Nike and Yuga Labs earned the most in NFT royalties. Royalties in NFTs: Yes, no, and why? Royalties Chaos Shows Ethereum NFT Market 'More Serious' Than Solana: Fidenza Artist Tyler Hobbs Artists' Royalties by BlackBox.art On Royalties by foobar Kyle Samani thread on verticalization Potential solutions Collector Royalties Collector Royalties Eligibility Expansion — Aug ‘21 How do they work Profit Sharing Cardinal Labs Metaplex Standard Exchange Royalties Guarantee NFTs for n00bs: A brief history of tokens and tulips, NFT aesthetics, energy dramas, fan  brigades, social tokens and the metaverse with Daniel Keller

Artists JOSHUA CITARELLA & RACHEL ROSSIN join NM for a freestyle audit of the 2022 art ecosystem. We discuss how the economy of cultural production, both on-platform and off, is evolving post peak-lockdown. Originally released to NM subscribers 23 SEPT 2022 For more: https://rossin.co/ IG: @rachelrossin & @joshuacitarella https://patreon.com/joshuacitarella https://joshuacitarella.substack.com Joshua Citarella, along with New Models, and Interdependence (Mat Dryhurst & Holly Herndon), is part of the channel.xyz network.

Crossover episode with New Models! Jump into a freestyle audit of the 2022 cultural ecosystem. We discuss how the creative economy, both on and off-platform, is evolving post-lockdown. Subscribe: https://www.patreon.com/newmodels Follow: https://www.instagram.com/newmodels_io/
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Hey friends. You've probably noticed that the art for this Substack has been a bit… surreal lately. For the past few months, we've been experimenting with Midjourney, an AI image generation tool and Discord bot that pulls visual data from all over the internet to generate original art images from random combinations of words. If you're so inclined, you can even choose to render these images in the style of one of the artists whose paintings you had to memorize in Art History 101.  For our episode with Mark Redito, one of the musicians behind a 77-person “headless” band called Chaos, we gave Midjourney the prompt: “Headless chaos in the style of Giorgio de Chirico.” After some trial and error, it spat out an image of a caped, headless figure that looked, well, kind of like it had been painted by Giorgio de Chirico. For Emilie's recent essay about the decline of scene culture during the pandemic, we used the prompt: “Post-pandemic hipsters in the style of Salvador Dalí” — with predictably ridiculous results. If you spend just a few minutes in the Midjourney Discord, it's not hard to see why hundreds of thousands of people have fallen down the same rabbit hole we have since the project moved into open beta in July. Especially if you aren't a trained artist, the ability to use words to give life to an image or idea in your head — or create a delightfully strange approximation of it — is nothing short of magical.Midjourney isn't the only research laboratory making tools with the potential to democratize visual image generation in this way: Unless you've been living under a rock this year, you've probably heard of DALL-E 2, a machine-learning model from AI research giant Open AI that takes a slightly different, more photorealistic approach to summoning novel images from the internet ether. DALL-E 2 has an amazing feature that allows you to explore what an image would look like — and even a famous painting like A Girl with a Pearl Earring — if you extended it beyond the frame. Separately, it's already responsible for some of this year's dumbest memes, like the “pugachu”: a combination of a pug and a Pikachu. But, like all technological and creative disruptions, these tools raise big existential questions and concerns. We just told you about how we used Midjourney to create images in the style of de Chirico and Dalí, then used said images as artwork on our Substack, a project that makes its money from paid subscriptions. Those artists are no longer living. But these machine learning models source training data from all over the internet — what if we started making art in the style of a living artist, without compensating them for their work or even asking for their consent? It's no surprise that tools like DALL-E 2, Midjourney, and open-source text-to-image model Stable Diffusion are creating something of a moral panic in the worlds of art, media, and design. Graphic designers and other commercial artists are worried that AI will spur companies to replace human labor with machines while exacerbating the scourge of intellectual property theft that they've already been dealing with on the internet for years. A photo director at New York magazine recently penned an essay asking whether DALL-E 2 was going to put her out of a job. Which all raises the question: Is AI the beginning of a more egalitarian artistic future, or the terrifying final stage of a trajectory where corporations and developers find increasingly insidious ways to extract value from the creative class? To begin to make sense of the economic, ethical, and artistic implications of these tools, we brought on the artist, technologist, and Interdependence co-host Mat Dryhurst. You might remember him from our episode last year on NFTs and their implications for the future of independent music. Mat and his partner, the composer Holly Herndon, have been diving headfirst into the possibilities and pitfalls posed by AI for several years now. Most recently, they launched Spawning, an organization building tools by and for artists working with AI. The idea is to give artists greater control over their AI training data by allowing them to opt in or out of these data sets, set permissions on how their style and likeness is used, and even offer their own models to the public. The goal, Mat says, is to establish a standard of consent honored by AI research companies as the tech — whether we like it or not — barrels into the future. Mat joins us from Berlin to give a crash course in the history of text-based image generation and the specific technological developments that led to this moment — from grassroots Discord groups, to Amazon, Microsoft, and Elon Musk-funded behemoths like Open AI, to the nation-states incentivizing this growing research field on the geopolitical stage. We discuss the possibilities and limitations of these tools as a medium for creative expression, the parallels between this moment and the advent of photography, and the changing nature of art, and perceptions of artistic value, in a world where people can create striking images at the push of a button. Finally, we get into the steps we can take now to avoid this becoming a nightmare scenario for artists — or, for the rest of us, the start of an era of really terrible art. 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What if you could create new music using your favorite musician's voice? Sharing her melodic gifts with the world, multidisciplinary artist Holly Herndon introduces Holly+, an AI-powered instrument that lets people sing with her own voice. Musician Pher joins her onstage to demonstrate this mind-blowing tech while singing into two microphones -- one that amplifies his natural voice and another that makes him sound just like Holly.

What if you could create new music using your favorite musician's voice? Sharing her melodic gifts with the world, multidisciplinary artist Holly Herndon introduces Holly+, an AI-powered instrument that lets people sing with her own voice. Musician Pher joins her onstage to demonstrate this mind-blowing tech while singing into two microphones -- one that amplifies his natural voice and another that makes him sound just like Holly.

What if you could create new music using your favorite musician's voice? Sharing her melodic gifts with the world, multidisciplinary artist Holly Herndon introduces Holly+, an AI-powered instrument that lets people sing with her own voice. Musician Pher joins her onstage to demonstrate this mind-blowing tech while singing into two microphones -- one that amplifies his natural voice and another that makes him sound just like Holly.

What if you could create new music using your favorite musician's voice? Sharing her melodic gifts with the world, multidisciplinary artist Holly Herndon introduces Holly+, an AI-powered instrument that lets people sing with her own voice. Musician Pher joins her onstage to demonstrate this mind-blowing tech while singing into two microphones -- one that amplifies his natural voice and another that makes him sound just like Holly.

What if you could create new music using your favorite musician's voice? Sharing her melodic gifts with the world, multidisciplinary artist Holly Herndon introduces Holly+, an AI-powered instrument that lets people sing with her own voice. Musician Pher joins her onstage to demonstrate this mind-blowing tech while singing into two microphones -- one that amplifies his natural voice and another that makes him sound just like Holly.

Everything is not what it seems. We can easily disguise ourselves in both the digital and physical world. This hour, TED speakers explore the ways we go incognito... from espionage to virtual reality. Guests include former CIA Chief of Disguise Jonna Mendez, artist Holly Herndon, anthropologist Mary L. Gray and digital fashion designer Gala Marija Vrbanic.

Holly Herndon is an American composer, musician, and sound artist based in Berlin Germany.After studying composition at Stanford University and completing her Ph.D. at Stanford University's Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics, she pursued a music career internationally. Herndon's music often includes human singing voices (including her own), is primarily computer-based, and regularly uses the visual programming language Max/MSP to create custom instruments and vocal processes. She has released music on the labels RVNG International. and 4AD. Her most recent full-length album Proto was released on May 10, 2019 which was the first full length record to utilize singing neural networks. She's recently released a way to interact with her digital twin called Holly plus and as of now you can upload polyphonic material to her homepage and receive a version of your recording with Holly plus as the voice for all parts. She is well informed about the most modern issues relating to digital rights that go alongside ideas such as renting your voice as a virtual performance instrument, as opposed to the old school reliance on sampling. There's a complex array of legal challenges on the horizon and most of us are hip to the potential of very convincing deep fakes and such. Will we be able to download the voice of Bob Marley as a kind of VST style instrument ? It seems clear we will and that ownership of these voices is going to be crucial going forward to make the market a free and fair place. For those interested in the cutting edge, Holly is cohost of the podcast Interdependence which covers the people, projects and technologies shaping 21st century culture with a large focus on moving to web3. In the Nitty I return my piano to the renaissance by having it tuned to a 1/4 comma meantone temperament. I wanted to see how the equal temperament we know so well might stack up in a triadic battle against the old ways. It's pretty fascinating to me. I hope you'll get something out the of trip back to 1523 when the meantone would have been dominant. HOLLY links Holly+ Other peoples clothes book recommendation Cathy_Berberian Lauren newton LINKS TO MUSIC FROM THE SHOW Chants Platzwave Manor LINK TO FORUKRAINE This EP was performed by Rob Burger and sonically crafted by me all proceeds to the Ukrainian Redcross. Please consider a small donation :)

A reminder: This is the free version of the Culture Journalist. For the full version of every episode, including this one; monthly culture recommendations; and more, subscribe for just five bucks a month. Also, you can now follow us on Twitter and Instagram. Hey guys,Remember when being a music fan meant falling in love with a label and collecting every single release? Today we're going to be talking about labels, and the special role they play in the creator economy —  past, present, and future.These days, when you hear about record labels, it's usually in the context of a high-profile artist going on social media to speak out about being locked into a terrible deal, or some jaw-dropping headline about how the majors are generating a million dollars of streaming revenue in an hour as artists struggle to make rent. But until relatively recently, record labels — and especially independent record labels — occupied a much more influential position in the zeitgeist. In the years before streaming became the de facto mode of discovery, one could argue that they served as a sort of organizing principle for musical knowledge, crystallizing scenes and movements under a recognizable banner that pointed listeners in the right direction and amplified artists operating outside of the commercial establishment. Think: How Dischord Records nurtured D.C.'s rich hardcore scene, or the role that Mac Dre's Thizz Entertainment played in ushering in the Bay Area Hyphy movement, or how Wax Trax! helped define the sound of Industrial music in Chicago. In the platform era, that feeling of being part of something larger than yourself, and being able to benefit from the support of a community that has your back, can be increasingly hard to come by. Which is why Yancey Strickler, a former music journalist and the co-founder of Kickstarter and The Creative Independent, had something of a eureka moment recently while revisiting Michael Azerrad's groundbreaking chronicle of the 1980s punk and indie scenes, Our Band Could Be Your Life: What if, instead of operating like independent economic agents, vying for our attention, streams, and clicks, artists squadded up and released work together? Before long, Strickler had teamed up with some friends to start Metalabel, an organization that describes itself as a “growing universe of knowledge, resources, and tools that inspire creative collaboration, cooperation, and mutual support.” The group, which includes musician Anna Bulbrook, Etsy co-creator Rob Kalin, designer Ilya Yudanov, developer Lauren Dorman, and collective internet culture expert Austin Robey, has yet to reveal what those tools consist of, or what the business model will be, beyond hinting that the project will involve blockchain in some way. (Austin told The Culture Journalist that the company has plans to become collectively owned.) But, like Other Internet's “Squad Wealth” article and Mat Dryhurst and Holly Herndon's “Interdependence” idea before it, the Metalabel concept offers some useful language for describing a paradigm shift that is clearly already underway. You can see it in how independent artists are teaming up to form DAOs, or media pundits hyping up the so-called “great rebundling.”Naturally, we couldn't help but want to dig deeper into the idea: Whether you're a musician, a writer, a fashion designer, or an activist, how might reframing our creative output as releases on a label free us up from the diminishing returns of the platform economy?Today, we're excited to welcome Yancy and Austin — one of the brains behind the digital musicians' cooperative Ampled, as well as Unnamed Fund and Dinner DAO — onto the show. We discuss what The Whole Earth Catalog, the creative studio MSCHF, and the centuries-old science academy The Royal Society have in common (hint: our guests say they are all examples of a metalabel), Yancey's “Dark Forest Theory of the Internet,” and how trying to keep up with the constant churn of content warps our priorities and values as creative people.  Become a paid subscriber to listen to this episode in full.Follow Yancey, Austin, and Metalabel on Twitter Learn more“Introducing Metalabel” Metalabel presentation at ETHDenver 2022“The dark forest theory of the internet” (Yancy Stickler)“What coops and DAOs can learn from each other” (Austin Robey)“Squad wealth” (Sam Hart, Toby Shorin, Laura Lotti)“Hyperstructures” (Zora's Jacob Horne)Episodes to peep if you like this oneIs it time for platform socialism? with James Muldoon Is counterculture even possible on the internet? with Carly BustaWhat are NFTs? And can they save independent Music? with Mat Dryhurst This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theculturejournalist.substack.com/subscribe

Over the past year, we've devoted more than a few episodes to discussions about Crypto, NFTs, and Web3—projects that we've been, it feels safe to say…fairly skeptical about. Given that skepticism, we were delighted to have the chance speak to Mat Dryhurst, who hosts the Interdependence podcast with Holly Herndon, for a discussion about Crypto's evolving place in the music industry, both major and independent. Dryhurst has long been one of the most active and articulate proponents of these technologies (and the social formations developing around them) and has a deep well of experience and knowledge in this fast-moving space. While we don't agree on everything, it was very much the kind of conversation that's needed to push forward our understanding of the billionaire-backed, contractually-decentralized, AI-drenched future that's beginning to emerge in certain corners of the internet. (Part 1 of 2)   Subscribe to our newsletter! Follow us on Twitter!