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“You should treat the movement to get rid of the symptoms rather than treating the symptoms to be able to move.” Dr. Shirley Sahrmann Our guest Dr. Shirley Sahrmann, PT, PhD, FAPTA. Dr. Sahrmann is a Professor Emerita of Physical Therapy at Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis, Missouri with over 60 years of experience. She received her bachelor's degree in Physical Therapy, masters and doctorate degrees in Neurobiology from Washington University. She is a Catherine Worthingham Fellow of the American Physical Therapy Association and is a recipient of the Association's Marion Williams Research Award, the Lucy Blair Service Award, and the Kendall Practice award, the Inaugural John H.P. Maley Lecture and Mary McMillan Lecture awards. Dr. Sahrmann has received Washington University's Distinguished Faculty Award, The Distinguished Alumni Award, the School of Medicine's inaugural Distinguished Clinician Award and an honorary doctorate from the University of Indianapolis. She has also received the Bowling-Erhard Orthopedic Clinical Practice Award from the Orthopaedic Section of the APTA. She has served on the APTA Board of Directors and as president of the Missouri Chapter. In addition to her numerous national and international presentations, Dr. Sahrmann has been a keynote speaker at the World Confederation of Physical Therapy, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, Japan, and Danish national congresses. Dr. Sahrmann's research interests are in the development and validation of classification schemes for movement impairment syndromes and in interventions for these syndromes. Her books, Diagnosis and Treatment of Movement Impairment Syndromes and Movement System Impairment Syndromes of the Cervical and Thoracic Spines and the Extremities, describe the syndromes and methods of treatment.
“You should treat the movement to get rid of the symptoms rather than treating the symptoms to be able to move.” Dr. Shirley Sahrmann Our guest Dr. Shirley Sahrmann, PT, PhD, FAPTA. Dr. Sahrmann is a Professor Emerita of Physical Therapy at Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis, Missouri with over 60 years of experience. She received her bachelor's degree in Physical Therapy, masters and doctorate degrees in Neurobiology from Washington University. She is a Catherine Worthingham Fellow of the American Physical Therapy Association and is a recipient of the Association's Marion Williams Research Award, the Lucy Blair Service Award, and the Kendall Practice award, the Inaugural John H.P. Maley Lecture and Mary McMillan Lecture awards. Dr. Sahrmann has received Washington University's Distinguished Faculty Award, The Distinguished Alumni Award, the School of Medicine's inaugural Distinguished Clinician Award and an honorary doctorate from the University of Indianapolis. She has also received the Bowling-Erhard Orthopedic Clinical Practice Award from the Orthopaedic Section of the APTA. She has served on the APTA Board of Directors and as president of the Missouri Chapter. In addition to her numerous national and international presentations, Dr. Sahrmann has been a keynote speaker at the World Confederation of Physical Therapy, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, Japan, and Danish national congresses. Dr. Sahrmann's research interests are in the development and validation of classification schemes for movement impairment syndromes and in interventions for these syndromes. Her books, Diagnosis and Treatment of Movement Impairment Syndromes and Movement System Impairment Syndromes of the Cervical and Thoracic Spines and the Extremities, describe the syndromes and methods of treatment.
Ep. 635 Israel Daily News Roundtable: https://www.patreon.com/shannafuld Support our Wartime News Coverage: https://www.gofundme.com/f/independent-journalist-covering-israels-war Support the show here: https://linktr.ee/israeldailynews On Wed. March 6th, 2024, the Israel Daily News team hosted their introductory VIP Launch Event in the heart of Tel Aviv. It included a live recording of the Israel Daily News podcast with a studio audience followed by a panel of strong female leaders who are making a change for Israel and the world. The event, hosted by Journalist and IDN founder Shanna Fuld, culminated with an exciting performance by Nicole Raviv and a live DJ set from Erika Krall. Panelists included Member of Knesset Sharren Haskel, Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem Fleur Hassan-Nahoum, Liat Cohen-Raviv, Tal Guberman (Young leader, Kineret Program) and Halel Ben-Nahoum (Ambassador with Israeli Center for Young Leaders) spoke for the panel on leadership. MK Sharren Haskel announced during the live taping of the Israel Daily News podcast, that she finally passed legislation which permits school systems to outright fire educators who have sexually abused their students. We learned that Fleur Hassan-Nahoum was named the Secretary General of the World Confederation of United Zionists, part of the Kol Israel faction. This makes her the first woman ever to hold the position. She also recently succeeded in getting schools around Israel to display images and posters of female success stories. Singer, actress, and recording artist Nicole Raviv sang Hallelujah in English, Hebrew and Arabic and the night ended with a set by DJ Erika Krall who kept guests vibing and in good energy throughout the entire live event. Special thanks to one of our guests, MAV, who flew in from California for the event. She is a top supporter of the Israel Daily News and also sponsored the event. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/israeldailynews/support
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Welcome to the PTA+ Podcast! In this episode, host Katie Sutton sits down with Jeremy Foster, PTA, to delve into the exciting world of PTAs on the international stage. Jeremy shares his inspiring journey attending the World Confederation of Physical Therapy (WCPT) Congress in Dubai, where he represented PTAs from the United States and explored the possibilities of expanding the PTA profession globally. Join us to hear Jeremy's vision, advocacy efforts, and the grassroots initiatives he's working on to make a difference!Episode Highlights:Introductions and backgrounds with JeremyDiscovering Jeremy's PTA+ _____Building Relationships and The MissionIn-depth discussion on key topics"Plus Point" segment featuring Jeremy
Doing a self-examination often can help you to detect Peyronie's disease as well as other concerns (like testicular cancer). The earlier you can detect Peyronie's, the easier it is to treat it as a soft tissue injury. Take one minute while in the shower to: Check your balls for lumps, bumps, and changes in shape Check your penis for any bending/curvatures, rotation, or hard or calcified skin Dr. Jo Milios is a Titled Clinical Researcher and Men's Health Physiotherapist (MACP) who has a special interest in Prostate Cancer. Dr. Jo has presented the research findings from her PhD at many international conferences including the World Confederation of Physical Therapy (WCPT), Asia-Pacific Prostate Cancer Conferences (APCC), Australian (APA) & American Physiotherapy Association's (APTA). We cover topics like: Why Peyronie's is commonly thought to be caused by penile injury or a buckling effect, yet only ~10% of men recall an incident Connection between Pyronie's and treatment for prostate cancer or other pelvic surgery (like hernia repairs and bowel surgery) Connection between Peyronie's and cardiovascular changes (like heart disease and diabetes) Injuries during sex that have caused Peyronie's in younger men The low down on treatments you should be considering if you've been diagnosed: therapeutic ultrasound, pumps, traction devices, medications, and more. If you've been diagnosed, what are the treatment options for Peyronie's? In addition to pumps, traction devices, and medications, Dr. Jo's research on the effectiveness of therapeutic ultrasound has been shown to be an extremely effective and gentle treatment for Peyronie's that any physical therapist can use. Refer to her thesis for all the nuts & bolts of ultrasound therapy for Peyronie's, erectile dysfunction, and urinary incontinence: Therapeutic interventions for patients with prostate cancer: A focus on urinary incontinence, erectile dysfunction and Peyronie's disease https://api.research-repository.uwa.edu.au/ws/portalfiles/portal/54573972/THESIS_DOCTOR_OF_PHILOSOPHY_MILIOS_Joanne_Elizabeth_2019.pdf RESOURCES: SOMAerect https://www.amazon.com/Soma-Therapy-ED-SOMAerect-Stf/dp/B00BFVWR2M/ref=pd_sbs_sccl_1_2/133-3828551-2248821?pd_rd_w=AuFXp&pf_rd_p=dfec2022-428d-4b18-a6d4-8f791333a139&pf_rd_r=SPZ1N24BE6HVP9K68Z5X&pd_rd_r=5ba2ec70-5c65-4e52-b40d-bb310a6e6867&pd_rd_wg=1RJy1&pd_rd_i=B00BFVWR2M&psc=1 Dr. Jo's Men's Health podcast, called ‘The Penis Project' www.thepenisproject.org Free sex and pelvic pain resources https://drsusieg.com/resources-for-pelvic-pain-in-men Online Pelvic Pain Relief Program for Men https://drsusieg.com/pelvic-pain-in-men-online-program CONNECT WITH DR. JO MILIOS: Websites: www.menshealthphysiotherapy.com.au www.prost.com.au www.thepenisproject.org Twitter: @prostatejojo Facebook: Men's Health Physiotherapy Facebook Group CONNECT WITH ME (DR. SUSIE): Website: https://drsusieg.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.susieg/ 15-minute call: https://drsusieg.com/pelvic-pain-specialist-15-minute-call Disclaimer: This information is not intended to substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of a healthcare professional with any questions you may have regarding treatment, medications/supplements, or any medical diagnoses. This information is intended for educational purposes only and is in no way to substitute the advice of a licensed healthcare professional.
Dr Stanley Paris a New Zealand trained physiotherapist came to America in 1966.His career has combined practice with education and he has made time for sports participation.He founded and was the first president of the Orthopaedic Section.Founded and was the second president of the International Federation of Orthopaedic manipulative Therapy – the first sub section of WCPT.Founded the University of St. Augustine which grew to four campus's nationwide when he sold it in 2015.Has received the highest honor in the APTA that being awarded the Mary McMillian Lectureship and then again the same within the World Confederation of Physical Therapy, the Mildred Elson Award.He has received five fellowships including becoming a FAPTA and an honorary doctor of laws from his alma mater, the University of Otago in New Zealand.Currently at 85 years he is retired but is:Honorary member of the board of trustees of the FPTRVice president of the English Channel Swimming Association
Dr. Lance Mabry (e-mail, ResearchGate, Google Scholar) of High Point University and Redefine Health Education is interviewed by Stephen M. Shaffer regarding a publication from the Journal of Manual and Manipulative Therapy titled, “Physical Therapists Are Routinely Performing the Requisite Skills to Directly Refer for Musculoskeletal Imaging: An Observational Study.” This episode contains information that will be interesting for practitioners who want to follow-up on a previous, related AAOMPT Podcast conversation from November 2019 (Episode 28) and learn more about the current, potential, and evolving role of physical therapists with respect to ordering diagnostic imaging.If you'd like to learn more from Dr. Mabry, he teaches clinical application of diagnostic imaging through Redefine Health Education (“Master MSK Imaging Certification”). Exclusive for AAOMPT Podcast listeners, the coupon code “AAOMPT” is good for $50.00 off the imaging certification course.Additionally, to find the references mentioned by Dr. Mabry during this episode please use the following links: Tonarelli et al 2011 (Diagnostic imaging of an Achilles tendon rupture), Keil et al 2019 (Reimbursement when physical therapists order diagnostic imaging), Kittleson C (This reference was a Wisconsin APTA presentation on Imaging in PT Practice and does not have a link to a published study), American College of Radiology Appropriateness Criteria, Jenkins et al 2018 (Imaging for low back pain: is clinical use consistent with guidelines?), Keil et al 2021 (Referral for Imaging in Physical Therapist Practice: Key Recommendations for Successful Implementation), Crowell et al 2016 (Diagnostic Imaging in a Direct-Access Sports Physical Therapy Clinic: A 2-Year Retrospective Practice Analysis), Crowell et al 2022 (Musculoskeletal Imaging for Low Back Pain in Direct Access Physical Therapy Compared to Primary Care: An Observational Study), Moore et al 2005a (Clinical diagnostic accuracy and magnetic resonance imaging of patients referred by physical therapists, orthopaedic surgeons, and nonorthopaedic providers), Moore et al 2005b (Risk determination for patients with direct access to physical therapy in military health care facilities), Mabry et al 2020 (Physical therapy musculoskeletal imaging authority: A survey of the World Confederation for Physical Therapy Nations), Stiell et al 1992 (Ottawa Ankle Rules), Stiell et al 1995 (Ottawa Knee Rule), Stiell et al 2001 (Canadian C-spine Rule), and the Australian Imaging Pathways (Now called Radiology Across Borders). Find out more about the American Academy of Orthopaedic Manual Physical Therapists at the following links:Academy website: www.aaompt.orgTwitter: @AAOMPTFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/aaompt/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/officialaaompt/?hl=enPodcast e-mail: aaomptpodcast@gmail.comPodcast website: https://aaomptpodcast.simplecast.fm
It is great to be here with you again. In each episode, we generally discuss the impact of physical therapy treatments on the management of chronic pain and other chronic diseases. From there, we have explored other overlapping problems and conditions, such as things like opioids, the over-prescribing of opioids or addiction, and the movement to choose physical therapy as an alternative to opioid medication. A clear movement also exists for a physical therapist to play a more pivotal role in treating and managing non-communicable diseases such as diabetes, metabolic syndrome, hypertension, and cardiovascular disease. This should not be too much of a leap because, as physical therapists, we have had a specialty in cardiopulmonary physical therapy for many decades. Something happened during the COVID-19 pandemic which changed our profession as well as changed our personal lives. America's mental health declined, with anywhere between 28% to 40% of adults struggling with depression during the height of the pandemic. Many of those numbers have stayed consistent. More people have been prescribed antidepressant medications and the mental health care shortage intensified with many providers in clinics having waitlists of 4 months to 1 year, which left many people without essential healthcare or mental health care services. As licensed doctoral trained healthcare professionals, we, physical therapists, whether realize it or not, see people with mental health concerns daily in almost every practice setting. Our profession, like many others, has begun to advocate for ways to improve mental health and mental well-being. We now know that the epidemic of depression requires a supporting role by physical therapists. The reason is that the influence of physical therapy extends way beyond the physical benefit. It improves mental health and promotes mental well-being. Screening and addressing behavioral and mental health concerns are within the scope of physical therapy practice guidelines. The American Physical Therapy Association published these guidelines in 2020 in the House of Delegates' position statement. This position is generally in line with the best evidence and the growing trend in psychological uniform physical therapy, which incorporates bio-psycho-social treatments for chronic pain and other health conditions. A few decades before the American Physical Therapy Association published these guidelines, there was the International Association for Physical Therapy and Mental Health, which is a sub-chapter of the World Confederation of Physical Therapy, which described the need and scope of physical therapy and mental health, behavioral health, and psychiatry. What we are seeing is the construct of psychologically informed physical therapy is the same, similar to, or compliments mental health physical therapy, which is used to facilitate body awareness, problem-solving skills, cognitive restructuring, and ways to cope, which reinforce self-efficacy and improve quality of life in the face of poor mental health. It would then appear inherent that a physical therapist can use biomedical treatments as well as psychosocial treatments based on their key role in reducing disability and fostering positive human growth. Occasionally, as physical therapists, we sell ourselves short and fail to understand the depth and the breadth of the impact we can have on someone's quality of life. What I am referring to is the emotional and psychological benefits that can increase the value of care that we provide as individuals and as a profession. Now more than ever, it is important that we understand and explain the breadth of the therapeutic benefits that we provide because studies demonstrate that approximately a quarter of all Americans may have a mental health condition. 25% to 50% of patients in a general outpatient physical therapy clinic have a mental health condition and upwards of 70% of patients with low back pain that report to physical therapy have some level of depression. We are already seeing this in practice. There is a place for us to be primary care and entry point providers into the mental health care system. However, that does not mean that we simply “refer out.” It means that. As professionals, we stay engaged in patient care, and we continue to play a role independently or in the code management of the mild, moderate, and severe depression or other mental health conditions that exist in the populations of patients that we treat. In fact, there is some literature that mild to moderate depression improves over the course of physical therapy, regardless of whether or not a mental health provider is engaged in the plan of care. How can that be or why is that? It is because movement, body awareness, physical activity, exercise, and many other interventions that we use as professionals are a catalyst for positive mental health and improved psychological well-being. When you combine physical activity with cognitive reappraisal, there is generally a greater impact on outcomes and the quality of life of the patients that you care for. Joining us to discuss the role of the physical therapist in treating depression is Dr. Tony Varela. He is a physical therapist who brings many years of experience in musculoskeletal health, including pain management. His professional principles were paved through residency and fellowship, grounded and rich patient experiences, and reinforced by serving those surviving chronic pain, cancer, as well as trauma, and PTSD from war. He believes there is a better version of ourselves ready to push through and he is an Assistant Professor at Arkansas College of Health Education. Tony authored a paper in the February 2022 edition of Physiotherapy Theory and Practice called The Theatre of Depression: A Role for Physical Therapy, which we will discuss in this episode. Without further ado, let's begin. Let's meet Tony and discuss the role of physical therapy in the treatment of depression. Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and share! Here's How » Join the Healing Pain Podcast Community today: integrativepainscienceinstitute.com Healing Pain Podcast Facebook Healing Pain Podcast Twitter Healing Pain Podcast YouTube Healing Pain Podcast LinkedIn Healing Pain Podcast Instagram
World Physiotherapy, previously known as the World Confederation for Physical Therapy, recently released a briefing paper and toolkit on safe and effective rehabilitation for individuals with post-acute sequelae of COVID-19. APTA member Rebecca Martin, PT, DPT, PhD, who represented APTA in authoring the briefing paper and the toolkit, answers questions about the PT’s role in … Continue reading Safe and Effective Rehabilitation for Long COVID
World Physiotherapy, previously known as the World Confederation for Physical Therapy, recently released a briefing paper and toolkit on safe and effective rehabilitation for individuals with post-acute sequelae of COVID-19. APTA member Rebecca Martin, PT, DPT, PhD, who represented APTA in authoring the briefing paper and the toolkit, answers questions about the PT's role in … Continue reading Safe and Effective Rehabilitation for Long COVID
Welcome back to PT MEAL Physical Therapy Podcast. A potluck of insights and information from Pinoy physical therapists for Pinoy physical therapists. Our guest today is Catherine Joy Escuadra, a physical therapist with a Master's degree in Health Professions Education. She is currently affiliated with the University of Santo Tomas College of Rehabilitation Sciences, teaching courses for the Physical Therapy, Occupational Therapy, Speech Language Pathology, and Sports Science departments. She is currently an officer of Philippine Physical Therapy Association, and a member in the programme committee of the World Confederation for Physical Therapy (WCPT) Congress 2021. She has countless published researches and speaking engagements regarding ethics, research, teaching, and evidence-based practice. In this episode, she talks about her passion for research, her own teaching methods, and the concept of Interprofessional Education and Collaboration. So pull up a chair, let's take a listen… --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/ptmealpodcast/support
This is part 2 of my conversation with Catherine Escuadra where she talks about her involvement in the Program Committee of the World Confederation for Physical Therapy (WCPT) Congress 2021, and why it is important for physiotherapists to take an active part in our profession. So let's take another bite of PT MEAL Podcast. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/ptmealpodcast/support
For many of us #GeriPT's, treatment looks VERY different from what we are used to. Sicker, younger, highly contagious patients, changing mindsets, scaling back treatment plans - or getting pulled from "comfortable and familiar" and being sent to a faster paced, less comfortable setting. It's a whole new ball game - or is it? Brush up on your pulmonary skills, strap on your N95 ( and gown, hair cover, face shield, booties, gloves ) and listen in while two East Coast therapists (spoiler - it's Tali and Nicole) who don't (usually) work in acute care talk about what they are seeing clinically. **This was recorded 4/4/2020 and we're sure something has changed since then. Life comes at you fast.** World Confederation of Physical Therapy COVID-19 Recommendations for Clinical Practice 2007 Role of Physiotherapy in the Management of Chronic Lung Disease ----- If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining the GEROS Community! You'll get: Access to the Private FB Group where we stream interviews, share relevant research, & discuss cases. The weekly Recap of highlights around the GEROS Community. Sign up for free at http://GEROShealth.com/#join
I avsnitt 6 av Fysioterapeuternas podd En podd i rörelse” samtalar förbundets vice ordförande Cecilia Winberg med Årets fysioterapeut 2019, Charlotte Häger, professor vid Umeå universitet. Samtalet handlar om Charlottes internationella arbete inom WCPT, World Confederation for Physical Therapy.
LIVE on the Sport Physiotherapy Canada Facebook Page, I welcome Dr. Emma Stokes on the show to discuss leadership. Dr. Emma Stokes BSc (Physio), MSc (research), MSc Mgmt, Phd is the president of World Confederation of Physical Therapy. In this episode, we discuss: -Dr. Stokes’ journey to becoming the President of the WCPT -Takeaways from the World Confederation for Physical Therapy Congress -Constructive feedback and the 360 review -How to grow your professional network and the two up, two down and two sideways rule -And so much more! Resources: Third World Congress of Sports Physical Therapy Emma Stokes Twitter World Confederation for Physical Therapy Website WCPT Facebook WCPT Twitter WCPT Instagram For more information on Emma: Emma is the head of the newly established Department of Physiotherapy & Rehabilitation Science at Qatar University. She has worked in education for almost 25 years and is on leave from Trinity College Dublin where she is an associate professor and Fellow. Her research and teaching focus on professional practice issues for the profession. She has taught and lectured in over 40 countries around the world. In 2015, she was elected to serve as President of the World Confederation for Physical Therapy. She was re-elected for a further four years in 2019. She has experience as a member and chair of boards in Ireland and internationally in a diversity of settings including education, health, research and regulation. Read the full transcript below: Karen Litzy: 00:01 Hey everybody, welcome to another interview for the Third World Congress on sports physical therapy, which is happening in Vancouver October 4th and fifth of 2019 and we've been interviewing a lot of the speakers and today we're really excited and honored to have Dr. Emma Stokes who will be in Vancouver with us. So Dr. Stokes, thank you so much for coming on. Emma Stokes: 00:29 Oh, thank you so much for the opportunity to chat with you again, Karen. It's always a pleasure. Karen Litzy: 00:34 I know, I know I just saw you in Switzerland and we'll talk about that in a little bit, but before we get into all of that, just in case, there are some people who are maybe not familiar with you, which may be, there are, I don't know, but can you tell us a little bit more about yourself? Emma Stokes: 00:55 Yes, of course. Well, I'm an Irish physiotherapist and I'm sitting in Trinity College in Dublin, where I have the privilege of spending a lot of my professional life. So I qualified as a physiotherapist in 1990 and let's just fast forward to eight years after I qualified, I went to my first international meeting and you know, I tell this story wherever I go in the world, which is, you know, I went to that meeting and I came home. And in that moment, in those days I really recognized that I wanted to be part of the international physiotherapy community. You know, a lot of people ask me that question. They say, well, you know, how do we become part of that? And you know, honestly then I didn't know what that meant or looked like or felt like or anything like that. But as I tell the story and we can come back to this later on, you know, I decided I was going to make myself indispensable. Emma Stokes: 01:45 So I volunteered for every conceivable opportunity that arose, including within the ISCP, which is the Irish side of charter physiotherapists. And in 2015 I was elected to serve as the president of WCPT the world confederation for physical therapy, the global physiotherapy organization of which the IFSPT, which is the International Federation of Sports Physical Therapy, is a subgroup of which the Canadian physiotherapy association is a member organization. And of course of which sports physiotherapy at Canada is a division of the CPA. So we're all connected in this big family and I got to serve as the president for four years. And then last year I decided that I would seek a second term as the president of WCPT. And there was an election in May and I was reelected, here I am, I'm very, very happy to am honored to be serving a second term as president of WCPT. And it's been a long journey and I'm happy to answer any specific questions about that as I always am. Because you know, I think not because I want to talk about myself, but because I think sometimes people look at you and they say, how'd you get there? And I'm happy to share that journey because I think that's a really important question. When you see someone in a position that you want to be in, then you need ask them how do they get there? Karen Litzy: 03:01 Yeah. So let's talk about that. So you volunteered for everything and anything you could get your hands on it sounds like, and I'm sure that helped get your foot in the door and, open things, a crack here and there. So when did you first decide to be an elected official? Emma Stokes: 03:23 I think physiotherapists are nervous about the volunteering thing and the idea that, oh gosh, it would be terrible to volunteer if you had an end game and you know, 30 odd years ago to be 30 years since I graduated next year as a PT, you know, I don't think we had the whole, I don't know the word networking even existed in the way it does now, but I loved getting involved and things. So I was very involved with the Harriers and athletics club here and lives in trinity and I reckon I spent more time with them than I did and my physiotherapy program. I just loved getting involved and you know, when you're a junior physiotherapist or in your, the early stages of your career in the day job, you know, and you'd know this Karen, right? Emma Stokes: 04:08 You don't always have the opportunity to do the things that you want to do because you're maybe limited sometimes in the organization that you're working in. And in fairness, I worked in St James's Hospital in Dublin and there were no limitations placed on me when I started to get momentum, but it took me a few years to get some momentum. So I became a member of the Irish society and I went to a meeting. They needed a member on a committee and that's where it started. And you know, I was on a committee and then I was on another committee and then in 1996 when I was working in trinity, one of my friends whose office was across the Carto said to me, we're stuck for someone on the international affairs committee. Would you volunteer? And I think I suggest more because I was sort of trying to help her out. Emma Stokes: 04:51 Than I wanted to necessarily do international affairs. And then, you know, it started, I just, I knew then the global physiotherapy was where my, I think maybe I was struggling to find my place in the Irish physiotherapy world or maybe the clinical physiotherapy world rather than the Irish. You see that everywhere, the clinical physiotherapy world. And so when I started to do some international work, so I got involved with my first international research consortium and I started to volunteer and so the first international meeting that I went to was 20 years ago. In 1999 and no one paid me to get there. I paid for myself to get there. I was presenting some of my phd research and I had gotten to know, Brenda Meyers, I'd met her once or twice and I emailed her, I said to her, look, I'm here. Emma Stokes: 05:42 Do you need to volunteer? And I was a teller at the general meeting of WCPT I helped count votes. Now you might not think that that's super important which it is. In the governance meeting of WCPT, I counted the votes in 1999 and then clearly I could count and I stayed involved with European level. And in 2003 the meeting was in Barcelona and I asked you about some time, the Irish societies delegation. But I was there with some of my phd students at that stage and some of my own research. And I went to the general meeting and Brenda said to me, well you would you like to be the chair of the credentialing committee? And that's what I did. So in that, that was the time when you presented your credentials in within paper, you brought your paperwork to the meeting and there was something really elegant about that process. And now we do it electronically and it's a little different. And plus I got to meet the presidents of every member organization and WCPT at that meeting. And then I finally got elected to actually the board of WCPT in 2006 and that was a chance I didn't expect to get elected. I was only running to signal my interest for four years later. But I got elected and I guess the rest is history. Karen Litzy: 07:01 Great. And I think the big moral of the story here is that no one's an overnight success. It's not like you one day said, I'm going to run for president of WCPT and got elected, you have to put the time in and pound the pavement, if you will, in order to kind of work your way up. And I think in the days now of social media and everything happening, having to happen immediately. Yeah, it's hard. So what advice would you give to someone who maybe doesn't have the patience these days to put the work in? Emma Stokes: 07:35 Yeah. So first of all, I think you have to enjoy the journey. So, you know, I never knew it was a journey in many ways. I guess at some point I knew it was a journey. And I think one of the things, because I've done a lot of reading around leadership and, I think what I've been fascinated about is this notion that just because you try once for perhaps an elected position and you're not elected doesn't mean that you walk away. So that in 2006 now, I don't know would I have walked away. I don't know that I did because I actually think I would've because I think what happened was in 2006 I had no expectation of being elected. But my plan then was to say, look, I'm interested. I know that's going to be another four years before I'm elected. Emma Stokes: 08:26 Or I could be elected. And I don't mind if I'm not elected this time. So I was elected and that was pretty amazing. And interestingly in 2011 and it was suggested to me by a number of people that I should run for president. And I decided not to because I wasn't ready now cause that's another conversation which is about when are we ever ready. But I think I'm very objective about my abilities. And so I had sort of decided that I didn't feel ready in 2011 to be elected as the president but by 2015 given what I had done between 2011 and 2015 I knew that I had the experience, I had the capabilities to be a very effective president from the point of view, I think at least I felt I had given the organization the best shot in terms of the experience that I had gathered. Emma Stokes: 09:33 So I had done a graduate business degree. I had done a lot of governance courses. I had been the chair of the board of charity and I just felt, I suppose I felt from a self efficacy perspective and we talked about this, about our patients all the time. I felt confident going in that not withstanding what needed to be done, I was confident that I was able to definitely demonstrate that I had the experience to be the chair of the board of a charity based in the United Kingdom, which is what WCPT is from a governance perspective. But also that I felt that I had enough experience to at least give a fairly good shot of being the president of the global organization. And there are two quite distinct parts of the road. Karen Litzy: 10:21 Well, and that leads me to my next question is as president of WCPT and for maybe the people listening, if maybe one day that's on their list, can you give a quick rundown of the roles and responsibilities of that position? Emma Stokes: 10:35 Yes. And Look, you know, I think let's just use the sort of a nice kind of balanced scorecard approach to this. So to me, when I ran, when I sought to be elected as president in 2015, I said I would look in, I would look out, I will look to the future. And then I had a little small part of the balance scorecard, which is you know, that quadrant system which was about inspiring. And in a way they map onto the two I think quite distinct aspects of the presidency, which is that you are the chair of the board of an organization and a company that's based in the United Kingdom and that brings governance, legal, fiduciary responsibilities. But you were also the president of a global organization. You are the leader in some ways the first among equals. But nevertheless you are in a leadership role. Emma Stokes: 11:21 And my perspective on that is my job is to bring people together in the global community and that's whether it's the physiotherapy part of the global community or the wider collaborative part of the global health rehabilitation community. So looking in was about ensuring that the organization with working with the board and staff and our volunteers was its best version of itself. Looking out was to start looking at who we working with internationally and what are the international organizations that we're working with. Looking into the future is about leadership. It's about creating the next generation of leaders in physiotherapy. And then the other space was about inspiring. And I suppose for me in the four years, I'm sharing something with you that I have probably not shared with very many people. So in my narrative and the work that I do with an amazing coach is around how do you walk with the dreamers and I've given a few talks that talk about what with dreamers, but it's about that idea of how do you inspire people to do something different, to get involved, to be involved in a different way, to just grow. Emma Stokes: 12:30 I guess just to enable us to sort of amplify everything that we do. And I suppose for me that's very, very, it's an intangible, right? It's that sense of how do you measure that when it's very hard to measure it? Right? And you know, now in the next four years, that hasn't changed. So we're still looking. So I believe we need to still look in, we need to still look out. We just need to look out in a bigger, better way. We need to look to the future. And I feel that commitment from me over the next few years is really important in terms of what are we talking about in terms of sustainability, the next generation of leaders, the future of organizations that are just in their beginning part of the journey. And My blog, which just was posted yesterday, is about, I suppose that other quadrant, now I'm talking about the moon landing projects. Emma Stokes: 13:21 So it's 50 years since, you know, since the first Americans landed on the moon. But I think that 1961 speech that JFK gave about this idea of what, asking ourselves the question about what we should be doing, not because it's easy, but because it's hard to me, you know I’ve got four years, you know, I'll be president for four years and then I go on and I just do a different part of my life. So if I had one thing that I want to do, it's about, we could be asking ourselves the question as an organization and as a community. What should we do because it's hard. What should we do, because it's right. And, we have to ask ourselves the hard questions. And those things are nuanced and they're just this dissonance in them and they're not easy and they're not going to be done in the four years. Emma Stokes: 14:14 So what are the big projects, what does that decade going to look like? And if you look at who they have two big projects that are focused on 2020, 30, which is, you know, it's almost a decade away. And I think we as a global community and as a global organization needs to be thinking about what are we doing to help answer those questions. So I guess, yeah, does that answer the question? Karen Litzy: 14:52 That's the role and responsibilities in a very large nutshell, a balanced score card and nice framework. Cool. Yeah. No, that's great. Thank you for sharing all of that. And you know, I did feel that sense of global community and working together and learning and open-mindedness, I guess would be a good way to describe the WCPT meeting in Geneva, which was a couple of months ago. I definitely did feel that global community. And I think, you know, social media has its pros and cons and we can talk about that forever. But one of the pros is that it does certainly bring people together from all parts of the globe. And so I really felt, a lot of comradery and felt like I quote unquote, Knew people even who live in Africa or they're in Nepal or Europe or even just across the United States. I really enjoyed WCPT. I thought that there were some, I mean obviously I didn't go to every session cause it's impossible. Well I went to some really great sessions that did bring up some uncomfortable questions and kind of pushed my boundaries a little bit. So I really enjoyed that. But what were your biggest takeaways? Obviously, again, not that you could be in everything everywhere all the time, but what were a couple of maybe maybe two of your biggest takeaways if you can whittle it down? Emma Stokes: 16:34 Oh Gosh. Two really, okay. But let's, let's start with the opening ceremony. So you know, it, the opening ceremony to the board. So we work with the board and the staff work really closely together around that type of event. So the board does not get involved in, you know, what color is the curtain, but we do make a decision about the venue because the venue has a cost implication. So, you know, so do we go for a big room where everyone is together or do we go for a smaller room where there's some breakout sessions? And I think what was really interesting was we had a series of conversations around that and we finally resolved in them, I guess April, of the year before the congress. So April, 2018 but the decision was, nope, we are going into a big space where everyone is together on it. And it meant that, and you will recall this, it meant that everyone had to walk. Emma Stokes: 17:29 It was a short walk from the venue of the opening ceremony to the welcome reception and not happening. It wasn't raining so, and so I don't know that anyone ever understood the amount of forwards and backwards and trade offs on cost and logistics and the walk and everything like that. But, when we made that decision, the decision was, we are a global organization and our strategic imperative is that we are a community where every physiotherapist feels connected to the engaged. Therefore, when we have an opening ceremony, everyone is in the room. And to me that probably has been one of the most powerful memories of my WCPT life is that moment when everyone is in the room and I have experienced it in the audience, but boy experiencing it on the stage, looking out that audience is, you know, I'm never gonna forget that, that that's a memory that I'm gonna have for the rest of my life was that I never imagined, I forgot. Emma Stokes: 18:31 I didn't think that it would in my mind, you know, we're all gonna walk along. It's gonna be 15 minutes. I dunno if you remember this, but it was that snake of people. And it was perfect because you had international physiotherapists rambling on, and they had to walk slowly, right? Because it was enforced because we weren't going anywhere in a hurry when there was, you know, 4,000 as we wove our way along to the opening center to the welcome reception. And to me, I think it was a visual and a physical and representation of who we are, which is that community of people that are connected better because we are connected. So that to me was, it can only go downhill from there. Emma Stokes: 19:29 Right. Cause I was just like, it was fabulous. So in terms of specific content, and I completely love the diversity and inclusion session, and I think that was, you know, that was a focused symposium. It was peer reviewed. It was submitted. It was an amazing team of fabulous physiotherapists from all over the world and a stellar audience. And to me that was, you know, that was both literally and symbolically immensely powerful in terms of what it is that we're doing as a community. And in the closing ceremony I said, you know, I felt that the three themes that came together were diversity, inclusion and humanity. And that's not to take away from the content, the science, the practice content, the clinical content. I'm not taking away from that, but I think what we've started to do is bring us up. Emma Stokes: 20:20 We have started to lift our eyes as a global community. And now more than ever, we need to do that because of the stuff that is happening in all worlds. So, you know, we just need to raise the level of our conversation. Of course everyone needs science and they need evidence informed clinical practice, we need humanity in our conversations. And if we're not doing it as a global community, then I don't know who else should be doing this. And to me, the diversity and inclusion session was babied us. We had an amazing session on education talking about the education framework policy piece. But you know what I think really emerged from the congress was on a big shout out to anyone in education is we need to revive our educators network. We need a global community of educators that are having conversations with one another. Emma Stokes: 21:21 We need to do it. Whatever we can do. I think the other session that that I loved was the advanced practice one because that's a big conversation and it's a big conversation that spans not just high income countries but low, low middle income countries. It's it, you know, if we look to ensuring that we'd have universal health coverage, then you know, the World Health Organization is talking about this billion level of health workforce shortage and we are a solution. We're a solution in so many ways and we need to start having those conversations around how are we the solution. And one of the ways that we are solution is around advanced practice. And then I guess the other one that I just loved, and I'm really sorry that so many people were actually turned away from the door with us doing this. And we went on, we would talk about this was the one that starts to take that editorial from editorial to action. Emma Stokes: 22:13 Then you know, the stellar mines that were involved in that. You know, so Peter O'Sullivan and Jeremy Lewis spoke the editorial, you know, Karim, who was the editor was going to facilitate that session but couldn't because he had other commitments. But he was at Congress, which was amazing. So what we had was we had to have the insurance. We had the physicians, we have physiotherapists from the low middle income countries in that room. And I think what's brilliant is, but you know, there's a, you know, I wouldn't, I'd love to suggest that I was writing it, but I'm not, I'm just, you know, I'm sort of sitting you know, I'm there in the background saying, Hey, look, the bread lines are out there. Emma Stokes: 23:01 You do your work. So we're going to have a nice, I hope, a nice publication around that. But, this is one of the moon landing projects, right? If we want to have this paradigm shift, what does WCPT need to be doing in terms of what does the global community need to be doing? But what can we facilitate around this? This is another moon landing project. What does that look like? You know, how do we change the way and we ensure that the delivery of rehabilitation and physiotherapy is the best version of itself. Karen Litzy: 23:46 It was a definitely a very popular session. Peter O'Sullivan was like, I'm sorry, I didn't know it was going to be that many people there. But it looked really great. I was watching from, I was going to another session, to see my friend, Christina present her research, but it was good to follow along with all of the tweets in the social media from there. And I was interacting and after Boris was like, so what did you think? Did you like the session? I was like, I wasn't in it. And he was like, what? But I thought you were there cause you were tweeting. I'm like, well I can keep up. Emma Stokes: 24:20 Yeah, yeah. And you know, I think one of the things that, so we are, we are a learning journey, you know, and there was a tradeoff, right? So, yeah, I think Peter and Jeremy were really keen to get a very, very interactive session because there was data that needed to be developed from this, you know, so the data being gathered as a result within this session, which is a very interactive, you know, session. And I think that's really important. You go for a smaller room with very interactive session of course, or you go for a big space with 500 people in it and close, you lose a granularity in terms of detail. Plus the editorial was only published in June, you know, less than a year before the meeting. Emma Stokes: 25:18 The other thing, right, you're not planning for years cause I mean it wasn't four years. And so that's where you're trying to do the responsiveness piece, which is, you know, a hot editorial, which was big on big ideas, you know, so, you know, the conversation then well it's of course that's the choice of the editorial, which is big ideas. Now let's just talk about enactment. What does that look like in term, well, A, can it work beyond high income countries, but B, what does it look like in terms of the next steps? So it is, so, you know, I acknowledge that was a big challenge and there was a lot of people who were very disappointed, but it wasn't a keynote session. It was around from editorial to acting what needed to be a granular session. We should talk about, you know, how do we keep that conversation going? And that's where I think things at the meeting that the conference in Vancouver a year later then congress the year after that starts to allow us to start a plan for those conversations to move forward. Karen Litzy: 26:20 Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's a good thing to hopefully bring to, Vancouver and allow people to see, well, what did come out of that WCPT and then how can we expand on that. Excellent. Good. Okay. So let's shift gears quickly. And you kind of alluded to your research earlier and that you were started your research in the 90s. And I know that a lot of your research centers around leadership. So can you talk a little bit about your research, number one and then number two, how does that research kind of guide you in your day to day function within your job? Emma Stokes: 27:24 Yeah, initially my research was very clinically based research. And then in 2010 I made a decision. So first one, let's put it out there I'm not a researcher, right? So I'm not going to be anyone ever with a high heat index. That does not give me joy in my life. My joy is around amplifying other people's research, which is why, you know, my joy is around saying that editorial was amazing. Now let's see how we can get it to the next steps. But nevertheless, I am an academic and therefore it's really important that my research informs my teaching. You know, we are resected at institutions both here in Trinity, but also where I'm working now at counter university. And so it's really important that when we teach, we Emma Stokes: 27:56 are teaching, our research informs our teaching. So in 2010 I had an amazing opportunity to take a sabbatical. I finished my graduate business degree. I'd suddenly discovered that you can actually learn about leadership. And I had suddenly thought, hey, you know what? Let's look the what's happening in physiotherapy research and leadership. Answer nothing at all. And, you know, then you ask yourself the question, well that's fine. You know, do we need to be doing research in leadership physiotherapy? And the answer is actually, interestingly we do because we know obviously more and more about leadership is that leadership is context specific. So it's very contextually informed. It's also very contingent around, you know, what you do on a day to day basis. But increasingly the conversation around leadership and healthcare is leadership is not a role. Emma Stokes: 28:45 It's a mindset, right? You lead from the edges. A loy about transformational leadership? It's moving from the transactional nature to the transformational. And so that's what I was doing. If you think about it, my practice in Physiotherapy was around, you know, working with organizations in either leadership roles or being part of other people who were leading projects and you know, being in the followership role or the participant road. And so I made probably, what's a career changing decision, which is that I actually stopped doing physical research. I said, okay, my research was around professional practice issues. I will research what I practice and my practices is physiotherapy. So I worked on that year with Tracy Barry around direct access and we did it globally. We're now looking at sort of processing the results of, you know, a really interesting survey around advanced practice and the building survey around that. Emma Stokes: 29:38 And you know, so now I'm not that, I'm not the doer, I'm the person that’s part of a team and the next generation of fantastic researchers are doing the research. So I want to give a big shout out to Andrews Tollway is doing amazing work on the advanced practice survey and also Emer Maganon, who was done, you know, she was my phd student on my post-talk and she's done a huge amount of research around leadership. And I've had the privilege of being along for the ride, which is fabulous. And that's what you get to do as a phd supervisors. So that's wonderful. And so the research has been around leadership, physiotherapy. We've worked around with the global community around some of the research that's happening and there's very little in physiotherapy and that's a shame. But actually what's interesting is there's more and more and that's good. And there's a huge Canon of research around leadership in nursing and for doctors, their providence is different. And so I don't think we should underestimate doing a lot of really good research around understanding the physiotherapy perspective and understanding and enacting leadership because I think that helps us start to understand where we might have some weaknesses or some behaviors where we're reluctant to get involved. And I suppose that for me is around how do we have those conversations, both from a research perspective but also from a day to day practice perspective. Karen Litzy: 30:59 Right. And then you kind of answered the question of how does it affect your day to day leadership abilities. And I think you just answered that because you're finding your weaknesses as a whole within the profession and I'm sure that can make you a little more introspective to see if you're either contributing to those or hoping to overcome them. Emma Stokes: 31:18 Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think you're absolutely right. I did a really interesting thing of just before I finished my first term as president, and I don't know if that, if you've done this or if anyone has, but I did it at 360. Emma Stokes: 31:32 So I had 11 people do the leadership practices inventory. So I did this and then 11 observers did this and then four people did in depth interviews. Oh, let me tell ya, so first of all, I'm indebted to the 11 people who participated and who gave up their time to do the Leadership Practices inventory about me, but also the four people who did in-depth interviews and they were, you know, so there were people within and external to the global physiotherapy community and Oh gee, that was interesting. You know, that was a, I learned a lot about myself, you know, and you know, and interesting I’ve done a reflection beforehand, sort of predicting what they might say and there were no surprises. There was a lot of reinforcements and you know, so I obviously, you know, you do the thing right, the 80 20 thing, which is they focused on the 20% of stuff that you're not best at. Emma Stokes: 32:27 And of course I had focused on that. So there was no surprises. But nevertheless it is saluatory to hear people say it about you and you know, and so on a cross, you know, so this wasn't, or three people, this was 11 people saying similar things about me and I've just spent two weeks with my family, Eh, like way more time with my family that I'm spending a long time. And I'm like, Oh yeah, I see where that comes from. Oh, how interesting. So I've done a 360 with my colleagues and I've spent two weeks with my family and yeah. Yeah, you know, I get it a lot of your niece that is seven and nine. They're saying, I think we should buy a to do list notebook. And I'm like, what do you think? I need one. Emma Stokes: 33:09 Oh, yeah, you definitely need to do this, that book. I'm like, okay. All right. So there's seven and nine and they're seeing that list already, you know? So it's fascinating. So I think you get, I think for me it's about where did the data points come from? I'm ensuring that you get them from people who will tell you the truth in a trusting, positive way. And so I do the research and then I do the granular stuff, which is hard, but yeah. But you have to do it if you are committed to being the best version of yourself in the service of the role that you're in. Karen Litzy: 33:47 Yeah, yeah. And in the service of others. Emma Stokes: 33:50 Yeah. Am I going to get any better? I'm not sure. Am I any more patient? Am I better at listening? Am I going to be any better as I'm pressing the pause button? I don't know, but I'm going to try. Maybe try anyway. Karen Litzy: 34:08 You know, I think the good thing is that you're now aware of some of these and I don't think they're faults. But you're aware of that side of your personality. Emma Stokes: 34:22 Yeah. And I think maybe it's not that I wasn't aware of it, it's more that it was reinforced about the impact that it has on people. If you'd ask me, honestly, did I find out anything with the 360 that I didn't know about myself? The answer is no. But has it made me face up to it and acknowledge its impact on others? Yes. And am I taking responsibility for trying to be a better version of myself. Yeah, sure I am. Cause you don't do this without taking it on to the next phase of the journey. Right? Karen Litzy: 34:54 Yeah. You don't just read it and say, okay. Yup. Nope. Yeah. Great. Cool. Well thank you for that. I'm going to look into that. So, you know, we're talking about WCPT and all of these international organizations and you do a lot of traveling and meeting all the different people. So you have a very wide network. So what are your top tips for physio therapists who are trying to build their professional network? Emma Stokes: 35:28 Two Up, two down, two sideways. And we've talked about this before, I think, which this is not my rule. I got it from, and a really good friend of mine who got it from someone else, a colleague of his, and the idea that networking is really natural to some people. Like they just, they're good at, right? Yes. But for a lot of people it's not. So, so I think the first thing is that you do two up two down two sideways route. And I think what's really interesting is when you say it out loud, you can start to use it. And in that way. So, and two up, two down, two sideways is, and so you're at a meeting and you want to be two people who are ahead of you in their journey. Emma Stokes: 36:09 So, you get ready, you identify them in advance or you don't, you just happened to meet them. But, for a lot of people it's about working and saying, okay, these are two people that I want to meet. And you're prepared and you don't randomly want to bump into them, but you have an ask of them maybe or not. Maybe you just want to connect with them because you admire the work that they'd done. And two sideways is two people that you want to connect with who are your peers, right? So two people that you've met on Twitter that you say, okay, I want to meet that person in person, I want to see that person. And then two down or two people who are ahead of you, the behind you in the journey. So students and you know, phd student, you know, so if you're a little ahead of them in the journey, who are they? Emma Stokes: 36:53 You know, and you know, who can you help along the way? So it's really interesting is I think it's a great rule. So you're at a meeting, who are your two up, two down, two sideways. I love it. And really interesting is if you know the rule and the person you're talking to knows the rule, it's great fun. So I was at a meeting where a physiotherapist came up to me and said, have you done your two down? So I had talked about this in the next year, a few months before rounds, and he'd come up and he said, have you done your two down yet? I'm like, sorry. He said, have you done your two down? I said, no, I haven't. He said, can I be one of them? Oh, that's so cool. And I said sure you can how can I help you? And so we ended up having a conversation and I was able to do some stuff for him that was fantastic. Emma Stokes: 37:38 And I thought, hey, you know, that's great. So, I think it's fantastic. So plan for your two up two down two sideways or be ready for your two up two down two sideways. And you know, I still do that. I mean I still think about hooking you. Who are the two people in the world that are going to be helpful for WCPT, who do I need to interact with, you know, and I don't necessarily always know who they are now, but it's in that moment I'm like, okay, I've got my card ready, let me tell you who I am. Do you think I could connect with you about this conversation or this presentation that you made? And so the other thing then is about looking around the room. And I think this is both as someone who wants to network, but also someone who's potentially in a situation where you could open circle. Emma Stokes: 38:24 So it's about physically looking through was a great piece of advice that I got. When circles are closed. So if it's me and one of the person I'm wearing a huddle, that's very hard for someone to come into. And sometimes that's okay because sometimes you are having a meeting and you don't necessarily, you need to have a conversation. But also sometimes it's about how do we keep that circle open to welcome someone in or if you see someone on the periphery to bring them in. Yep. So, so it's about the physicality of the space so that, you know, so sometimes it's about being polite and saying, look, oh, are you having a meeting? Or if sometimes people are having meetings, right? They are genuinely saying, look, we're actually having a conversation. But sometimes it's about looking around the room where you see the open spaces and coming in and saying, oh, hello, I'm so and so knowing that that that circle is open to have someone come in. Yeah. But also I think as people who are in spaces, recognizing if you see someone out of the corner of your eye might be hovering, have the generosity Emma Stokes: 39:29 to bring them in and say, oh, hey, did you want to join us? Well, and sometimes, so for me, a lot of the time what I do is I bring someone in because I know they want to connect with someone and I say, okay, you guys are connected. I'm going to go and I'm going to move on. Karen Litzy: 39:44 Yeah. I feel like Karim Khan is the king of that, by the way. Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Oh, did you want me to come with me? This is exactly, yeah, exactly. Absolutely. He is the king of connecting people like that at different conferences. He's done that for me so many times and I don't know how. I'm always like, what can I do for this man? Because I feel like he's done so much and he's so good. And I love the two up, two down, two sideways. I'm going to remember that when I go to Vancouver. It's a great room. You know, and maybe we need to produce a little card to up to that, like a dance card. Oh that's a good idea. Maybe we can do that for sports congress. Oh I'm definitely doing that. Oh that's such a good idea. Emma Stokes: 40:37 And then maybe one of the sponsors or one of the, you know, cause they could have a little piece of the sponsorship piece at the back. Karen Litzy: Yeah, absolutely. Well I know that, you know, Chris is listening in on this, so I'm trying to shout out to a sponsor. And then if you really want people to kind of get into it, you can kind of fill it out with the person's name and then handed in and win a prize at the end. And I love the bringing someone in and when we were in Switzerland, Christina Lee that I was with and you know, we had met in Copenhagen at Sports Congress and decided that it all stayed together at WCPT and you know, you're just walking around and she gave me a compliment that no one's ever given me before, but it's might've been one of the best compliments I've ever received. Karen Litzy: 41:52 And she's like, you know, you are so good at making sure people are involved in conversations. Like you're so good at bringing people in and you're so good if someone's not saying anything of, you know, making sure there's space for them. She's like, that is, she's like I'm learning from that. Emma Stokes: 42:10 That's fantastic. And it is a great gift of yours because you are so present in the moment when we're having conversations. So you're very sensitized I think to the people in the room or the space that we're in. So you do connect people in a way that is fantastic and it's a huge gift. And I think the fact that you don't even know is that you're doing it means that's a great gift for you. Yeah, I think sometimes, and that's, you know, that is wonderful. So you have, you know, you've internalized that it's probably just a natural part of who you are. And I think for other people it might not be intuitive, but it's a great thing to remember. The other thing to remember is the 20 second rule or the two minute rule, but we have the rule, which is, you know, we meet people all over the world. Some people meet people around the world. You're never necessarily going to remember everyone's name. So I have a rule, which is if I'm standing chatting to someone and the person I'm with who knows me, we haven't been introduced within 30 seconds. The cue is introduce yourself because either A I’ve forgotten cause I'm so taken up in the conversation. It's not beyond the bounds belief, you know, happens very regularly. Or secondly, I've had that moment where I'm suddenly thinking, Emma Stokes: 43:28 I don't know that I remember this person's name or I'm not sure enough that I remember their full name. Emma Stokes: 43:35 So just introduce yourself, so if you're with me and we're in a conversation, you would always do it right. You'll say, Oh hey, I'm Karen, she's introduced me. That's fine. But, but it's also, it's a very polite way of getting over that moment of she's forgotten. She's taken up with a conversation or she hasn't done it because she's only thinking I'm having a panic. I remember exactly where I met the person. Yeah. I remember their name. And you know, sometimes I put my hand on them. But I can usually remember exactly where I've met the person. Karen Litzy: 44:11 Yeah. I'm good at faces. And sometimes like if I'm with some, like a friend of mine and I see someone, I'm like, oh my gosh, I know this person, I know this about them, this about them. But I don't know their names. So when we go up, we'll start chatting and then I want you to introduce and then I want you to introduce yourself. So I'll prep this, the person I'm with, I'm like, I might know their backstory, I've read them know, but I can't think of their name. Emma Stokes: 44:32 So you know, do the 30 second rule, which is when you're with a friend who hasn't introduced, you just introduce yourself. Karen Litzy: 44:38 Perfect. All right, so let's talk about Third World Congress. What are you going to be speaking on? Emma Stokes: 44:45 Well there you go, on leadership and you know, you know, how fabulous is that? I'm so excited about being there, you know, I'm just, I'm so honored to be invited because I was invited a couple of years ago and, you know, I wasn't necessarily going to be the president of WCPT again. Right. So, and I said to them, you know, what's really nice that you've invited me but you know what, it's great. We just invite you anyway because we want you to talk about leadership. And he would have been the president and that's great. So, I'm thrilled that I was invited to be that. I'm super excited about that. I'm back as the president of the world physiotherapy and, you know, I just, I guess, you know, I love the sports physiotherapy world. Emma Stokes: 45:27 You know, I've never practiced as a sports physiotherapist and it's not my field of expertise, but I have learned so much simply by sitting in the rooms of amazing congresses. And I've learned so much that just simply by Osmosis, that every now and then I say something and I think I sound like I know what I'm talking about. Actually. I'm fairly confident that I do, but how do I know? And then I realize, okay, what I've sat through five keynotes lectures from the stellar people in the field. And it's not that I'm an expert, but I can actually at least point people to the references. So, you know, I think there is so much to be gained from a global community of practice and knowledge coming together and you know, the sports physiotherapy world is incredible and I am so excited and Vancouver is beautiful and the Canadian physiotherapy is fabulous, So bring it on. Karen Litzy: 46:26 Awesome. Well I know, I am excited to go in to learn and you know, there's breakout sessions. I don't know which one to go to because they all sound really great. I don't know what you think, but I think they all sound like it's an amazing program. Emma Stokes: 46:40 Absolutely. It's fantastic. And I think, you know, you know, I get the joy. So I suppose my joy is my privilege and my joy is that I get to dip in and out of so many sessions. And because you know, in a way I am taking different lessons away from Congress. It's like this. So I'm taking away the thought leadership lessons I watched, you know, I want to sit in on the leadership stuff, I want to sit on the policy stuff. But you know, if you're practicing day to day working with people in the sports world, there the richness of the programming is like, where do you start to choose, you know, how do you decide what you're going to go to, to take away, to inform your day to day practice? Karen Litzy: 47:18 Agreed. I think it's going to be great. And again, just for people listening, you're obviously on the Facebook page, so hopefully you can see the banner on top that says October 4th and in Vancouver the Third World Congress of sports physical therapy. But I guess this is going to be on my podcast as well. So Emma, where can people find out more about you? Emma Stokes: 47:40 Oh, so, well, like they want to find any more out, more about us I think actually look at, so WCPT.org is our websites. Have a look at the website because we are going through a major both rebranding, you know, redesign of the website. So it's going to look super different. I think we're going to have some interesting information about our rebranding by October and about the rebranding of the product. You know, the kind of, the idea of what do we call ourselves as a global community and started to merge the space. I'm committing to blogging once a month, which I've failed dismally at, but I am now committing, so just put the first blog out there and yeah, so follow us on social media, like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and then look at our webpage but also look at our subgroups obviously because, the world sports congress is being co hosted by the Canadian Division of sports PT and the International Federation sports physical therapy and that's the WCPT subgroups. So all joined up. So yeah, look at the website and I see the early bird is opened on until the end of August for Congress in Vancouver in October. Karen Litzy: 48:55 Yes. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for taking the time out and coming onto as a pleasure. Emma Stokes: 49:00 It's my pleasure as always, and thank you for the opportunity and I will see you in Vancouver. Karen Litzy: 49:04 I will see you then. Thanks everybody. Have a great day. Thanks for listening and subscribing to the podcast! Make sure to connect with me on twitter, instagram and facebook to stay updated on all of the latest! Show your support for the show by leaving a rating and review on iTunes!
Dr. Michael Fink, Chair of the ABPTS Sports Specialty Council, comes onto HET Podcast to chat about how the Sports Council of ABPTS operates, how the SCS exam is created, strengths and limitations of the exam, thoughts on improving the SCS exam, and much more. Resources Mentioned: ABPTS Website ABPTS Descriptions of Specialty Practice ABPTS Specialist Certification: Sports Michael Fink's Courses through Medbridge ABPTRFE Data & Outcomes Medbridge SCS Prep American Academy of Sports Physical Therapy National Board of Medical Examiners Biography: Michael L. Fink, PT, DSc, SCS, OCS, CMPT Dr. Fink received his B.S. and M.S. in Physical Therapy from Thomas Jefferson University in 2000. He attended a Post-Professional Doctoral Sports Medicine Residency at the United States Military Academy at West Point, New York in 2004-2005 and earned his Doctor of Science in Physical Therapy from Baylor University in 2005. In 2006 and 2007, Dr. Fink became board certified in Sports and Orthopaedics, respectively, by the American Board of Physical Therapy Specialties (ABPTS). Dr. Fink is currently Chair of the Sports Specialty Council of the ABPTS, was the Item Bank Coordinator from 2015-2018, was on the Committee of Content Experts for the Sports within the larger Specialization Academy of Content Experts from 2007-2015, and was a member on the ABPTS Board of Directors from 2009 to 2013. Dr. Fink was a U.S. Air Force physical therapist and combat veteran from 2001-2009 last serving as the Officer in Charge of the Cadet Physical Therapy Clinic at the US Air Force Academy. Dr. Fink received his formal training in medical screening and differential diagnosis from the US military while working in a direct access/primary care capacity. He also studied under graduates of the Kaiser Permanente Primary Care Fellowship in Vallejo, California. He currently holds an appointment of Co- Chair and Associate Professor in Lebanon Valley College's Doctor of Physical Therapy program where teaches Medical Screening and Differential Diagnosis, Pharmacology, Manual Therapy Elective, and Human Anatomy. He serves as a mentor and consultant to orthopedic residencies and fellowship programs in Central Pennsylvania, as well as the military sports medicine residency program in New York as well as being a part-time clinician. Dr. Fink is the lead instructor for Pearl Clinical Education LLC in the areas of medical screening/differential diagnosis, manual therapy/manipulation, diagnostic imaging (including musculoskeletal ultrasound), and pharmacology. Dr. Fink has been a Pennsylvania licensed physical therapist since 2000 with his Direct Access certificate since 2009. In addition, he is a CAPTE site reviewer, an APTA Credential Clinical Instructor, a manuscript reviewer for national and international peer reviewed physical therapy journals, textbooks, DPT programs, and serves as a reviewer for the World Confederation of Physical Therapy. Dr. Fink's research interests include manual therapy, medical screening/differential diagnosis, and injury prediction in athletes. He has authored several publications in the areas of orthopedics, sports, and primary care. Dr. Fink lives in central Pennsylvania, with his wife and four young children and enjoys spending time outdoors, cycling, and playing sports with his kids. Contact information: E-Mail:fink@lvc.edu The PT Hustle Website Schedule an Appointment with Kyle Rice HET LITE Tool Anywhere Healthcare (code: HET)
On this episode of the Healthy Wealthy and Smart Podcast, I welcome Dr. Mark Merolli, Ann Green and Professor Catherine Dean. In this episode we discuss our upcoming focused symposium at the World Confederation for Physical Therapy Congress in Geneva Switzerland on Sunday May 12th at 4:00 PM. The title of our symposium is Education: Technology and Informatics. In this episode, we discuss: - The why behind our focused symposium. - Current global entry standards for physiotherapy in relation to digital health technology and informatics. - How technology affects the world of physiotherapy and are we preparing new graduates to meet those demands - A sneak peek into the specifics of our talk. - What we hope the symposium and discussions in Geneva will lead to. _ And much more! Resources: WCPT Congress 2019 Professor Catherine Dean Twitter Ann Green Twitter Dr. Mark Merolli Twitter For more information on Mark Meroli: Dr. Merolli is Physiotherapist (musculoskeletal) and Certified Health Informatician. For many years now, he has been a leading voice on all matters technology in physiotherapy. He has global reputation for his expertise in digital health and informatics, which has led to his involvement and consultation on this area across several WCPT and member organization events and initiatives. He has presented on digital health at several recent APA, and WCPT conferences, run workshops, written articles for member magazines, and been interviewed on podcasts to discuss these areas. His research interests include how technology is engaging patients to be more active participants in their own health management and how we can ensure the digital preparedness of future health professionals. For more information on Ann Green: Ann Green MSc, FCSP, FHEA is Head of Life Sciences at Coventry University. Ann is a Fellow of the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy, awarded for her contribution to education, research and policy. Throughout her career Ann has worked in higher education and has developed physiotherapy programmes in the UK and internationally. She has been active within professional accreditation, physiotherapy educational policy and worked for the UK health regulator, the HCPC, in programme approval and international registration. Ann’s research outputs span 20 years with her earliest publication about admission and progression trends in undergraduate programmes and her recent publications relating to postgraduate physiotherapy education and the development of the individual, the profession and careers. She has been invited to speak internationally on advancing physiotherapy practice. Her current research with an international team, is on social media and its role in global physiotherapy professional networks. Ann is one of the co-founders of the Big Physio Survey, an open access resource which enables physiotherapists from across the world, to share case studies online, which forms a global repository to showcase our rich and diverse profession. For more information on Catherine Dean: Professor Catherine Dean is a physiotherapist with a full-time academic appointment with teaching research and administrative responsibilities. In 2011 Professor Dean moved to Macquarie University in a key appointment for the University’s expansion in health and medicine. She was appointed the inaugural Head of the Department of Health Professions and has established NSW’s first professional entry Doctor of Physiotherapy (DPT) degree. The Macquarie DPT includes advanced physiotherapy skills, business management, leadership, policy and advocacy units as well as completion of a research project. In 2014, she received the Executive Dean’s Service Award for engaging students and the community in establishing the Discipline of Physiotherapy and in 2015 led the DPT teaching team which was awarded the Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences excellence in teaching award. In 2017, she was appointed Deputy Dean of The Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences. Prior to her Macquarie University appointment, Professor Dean worked as an academic with teaching, administrative and research responsibilities at the University of Sydney for 20 years. Her research interests are developing and testing of rehabilitation strategies to increase activity and participation after stroke, translating evidence into practice and clinical education. She has published in leading journals such as Stroke, Archives of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation and Pain. She has been awarded over $5.8 million in grants for research and education. Professor Catherine Dean’s research has changed physiotherapy practice in stroke rehabilitation. Professor Dean’s research findings have been integrated into national and international clinical practice guidelines, such as the NHMRC-approved Clinical Guidelines on the Management of Stroke and featured on the Canadian Stroke Network StrokeEngine site. Read the full transcript below: Karen Litzy: 00:01 Hello everyone and welcome to the podcast. I want to welcome Mark back onto the podcast and Anne and Catherine, welcome for the first time. I'm so happy to have you all on this episode. And for all the listeners, what we're going to be talking about is our focused symposium that is going to be taking place at WCPT in Geneva May 10th through the 13th for the WCPT meeting. And our symposium is education, technology and informatics, and it is Sunday, May 12th at 4:00. So if you are going to be in Geneva, you're going to want to come to this focused symposium. Now, this all sort of started with Mark, so I'm going to throw it to you first as to so you could tell the listeners why you wanted to even put this focused symposium together. Mark Merolli: 00:58 Thanks for doing this again. And I'm actually really excited that actually got you on some part of this wider team, uh, to, to be part of this focusing posing in Geneva. And it's great to be on your podcast again. Uh, but you're right, when we last spoke on the podcast, we talked I think more broadly about just the impact that technology, the wider discipline of informatics is having on the physio profession, future trends, disrupters, et cetera. And I think obviously for no uncertain terms that work has continued and that impact continues to grow. But one of the things that, you know, obviously, are very near physio educator for some time now. And I think working in that space of, um, health informatics, um, digital health, uh, so, you know, the intersection of technology and healthcare, I think one of the things that's been really readily apparent to me for some time now is need. Mark Merolli: 02:02 Um, and to ask ourselves the question as to where this all fits into the way we educate our future physical therapists, physiotherapists. So I thought when calls for abstracts came along and sessions for WCPT, that it would be very topical, um, for WCPT and the wider profession to embrace the idea of, you know, let, let's have a look at, at current ways we educate university students, um, in this space? Have a look at perhaps where technology features in what we teach, where it should feature, where it can feature. Um, and I was just really glad to see the WCPT thought this was equally worthy. Um, I'll debate, um, and put it up as a focus symposium for us. Uh, and the speakers on, on the symposium, the panel yourself, uh, your entrepreneurial self. Um, and, and Ann Green will have known for a very long time as a physio educator in the UK. Mark Merolli: 03:04 Um, and Catherine, uh, over here in Australia as well, who's a very innovative forward thinking educator who's one of the few people I know who's pushed to this stuff for many, many years before this was really a debate. Uh, I thought you were all pretty much perfect, um, example of people that could help push this topic and discuss it. So that was the motivation from my end. Um, I think it's one thing for you and I to talk about technology in the profession but a very different but complimentary themes to talk about how this all fits in education. Um, cause I think in no uncertain terms, we either don't do it, um, we don't know how to do it or we do it quite ad hoc for the most part. Um, so it would be really, really nice to discuss at WCPT, we're hoping to get along as many people as possible as to how we might actually go forward with this and see informatics, technology, digital healthcare starts to become a more sort of interwoven thread in the way we're trying to future proof this profession. So I'm really looking forward to doing this with all of you. So thanks for, thanks for spreading the word for us I guess. Karen Litzy: 04:18 Yeah, and I mean I'm really looking, I've learned so much just from listening to the three of you, so I can guarantee if you're in Geneva you are going to learn a lot with this focused symposium. So, Ann let me throw it to you now and can you give us a little snippet as to what your part of this symposium is going to focus on? Ann Green: Okay. Well Hello Karen. I'm really pleased to be part of this podcast and join this panel. So as Mark said, it had been an educator for a long time. I've involved with a professional body in setting curriculum guidelines. I've involved with statutory bodies. Um, and I suppose that's the obvious point when, when you saw when you forming curriculum. So it was really interesting to have a look what the UK is doing and then have conversations with, with Catherine, Mark about Australia and yourself about at the U.S. and what we all found was that there are, are a few guidelines. Ann Green: 05:19 And so I'm really interesting to discuss with everybody in the audience. Is that a good thing? Is that a liberating or should there be more guidelines? Um, I've previously been involved with Mark and do this research around social media and it's interesting that a number of guidelines appeared from all corners once physios became very active on social media. So it would be interesting to know, um, what we can learn from that. Uh, and whether it's professions, accrediting bodies, individuals we should be guiding or letting people freely develop and uh, and see what happens. Karen Litzy: And do you feel like looking at those guidelines for social media, which like you said, I think we can all agree that probably most, uh, physical therapy governing bodies of countries around the world have some sort of guidance on social media that came way after people were using. So yes. Karen Litzy: 06:21 So it's one of those kind of, are we asking for permission or asking for forgiveness and, and I think that's where guidelines around informatics can be kind of interesting because you want to know, are we asking for permission or are we doing things like wild west? It, that's a definitely a US thing. Um, uh, is it going to be like the wild west out there as more informatics and more technology get involved in the profession where then people have to ask for forgiveness for certain breaches of let's say privacy or things like that? Ann Green: Yeah, I suppose, I think what we did learn from social media and the guidelines, the teeth essentially came round to good professional behavior. Um, uh, maybe mmm. Maybe in terms of going forward with how people are using technology, um, in health cat, it will perhaps be framed around, you know, the sort of common standards that we have for professional behavior, respecting patients, privacy, um, and um, and using evidence. Karen Litzy: Yeah, absolutely. And now, Cath, can you talk a little bit more about what you're going to be sharing a in Geneva with this symposium? Catherine Dean: 07:37 Oh yeah. Thanks Karen. I'm, hi, I'm Catherine. I'm, I'm an educator. For a long time in 2011, I changed university and I had the opportunity to develop a physio therapy program from scratch from a green field, which is a, I've never worked so hard in my life, but it's very exciting. Um, when I came to the knee university, I really wanted to ensure that our graduates, it was future proofed and future focus. So I knew I had to embrace technology and, and um, health informatics. I wasn't quite sure how to do it. Um, I was very fortunate to meet Mark at a conference who helped me out. And I really want to share at the conference a little bit about what I did, what worked and what didn't. Uh, um, the lessons I've learned it you learn a lot from the errors as you make and hopefully I can stop some other people making some of my errors. Um, but I'm really interested in what other people have done because there's still lots to solve. And how do we actually adequately prepared, um, the future professionals for practicing a ever increasing digital world. So be there Sunday, May 12th at 4:00 PM Geneva. Karen Litzy: 08:45 And what, what do you feel like from your perspective and with the students that you've worked with in the past and are currently working with, what do you feel the biggest, I guess, barrier to, having these students be, whether it be, cause they seem to be proficient in technology, right? What is it that is maybe the biggest barrier about using this within the practice of physical therapy? Catherine Dean: 09:14 I think it probably intersects a little bit with what Anne said. I think, well, they often proficient in using their technology. They perhaps don't understand the ramifications around privacy issues. Uh, and then I think some of the other issues is it's around professional behavior. Again, uh, your, your, your digital profile is, it is, it reflects the profession as well. So you need to think about, um, adequate oh, standards and provisional by, but I also think while they can be really good at technology and make flashy things, sometimes the content still misses the critical analytical skills that are needed. So, um, I, in some ways it's just another format for communicating and it has its own challenges about that. What you do communicate has to be accurate and evidence based. Karen Litzy: 10:08 Yeah, for sure. And Mark Your, you know, your goal in putting this panel together is to really spark conversation and to get people interested in informatics. But one thing we didn't talk about in this podcast yet is, and it's a question I get every time I say, oh, I'm doing this focus symposium on informatics. It's what's informatics? Mark Merolli: 10:32 We haven't had to refer people back to the other podcast episode. I don't remember look in no uncertain terms. When we talk about informatics, we're, we're really talking about information science, um, and is an essentially where technology plays a role in how we improve use of inflammation in healthcare. So, you know, we were covering everything from the way we collect health information, store it, uh, analyze it and then essentially put it into practice. It's about making healthcare safer, more efficient, more evidence based, you know, improving essentially the quality of health information using technology. If I can put it in a nutshell. Ready for if Karen, if I could probably just echo Cath sentiments. Really it's um, I agree 110% with what she said, but part of the other reason for having this topic and the symposium, I think yes, we are all passionate advocates but this is also an exercise in supporting, uh, our colleagues, uh, and the wider physio profession as well. Mark Merolli: 11:33 Um, and much like implementing technology into practice, whether that be a small practice or a hospital. Um, you know, technology requires a big change management exercise. And one of the, you know, we were just talking about the barriers here. One of the barriers is also the confidence and the skillset and the that are actual educators and workforce clinical supervisors have to support this too. Um, so one of the things I'm very passionate about and part of the reason for getting the word out there here is that, you know, we actually need to consider the existing work force, the audience of this symposium, our colleagues, the other educators who are expected to teach these students these themes but may not also be all at 100% confident themselves. So I think that's probably one of the other barriers and considerations that I'd like to throw into the debate as well. Um, how we can support the existing workforce. Karen Litzy: 12:30 And I think that's important. And I think part of what I guess I should say what I'm going to talk about during this symposium as well. Um, but, uh, I think what I'm going to be speaking of, I'm coming at this from a practice owner, from a practicing clinician. So I'm served, people are wondering what I'm doing on this panel of academics because I am not an academic. I'm not in, I'm not teaching in a university. Um, but I am coming at it from the point of view of the practice owner, the practicing physical, the practicing physical therapist and the point of view as someone who may be hiring these students as they come out of school and, and supervising the students. And so I think from a practice standpoint, I mean I'm really looking for, uh, graduates who at least bare minimum have an idea of what informatics are. Karen Litzy: 13:30 Um, kind of what we use. Mark you just said, but I'm also looking at how can we use technology to make my practice run a little bit more smoothly. And that can be an electronic medical proficiency and electronic medical records, understanding how electronic medical records work and why they're there. Um, and again, the safety and privacy around that. And also using technology with my patients, whether that be an APP or a wearable, how it's like, yeah, anybody can use an app or a wearable, but to marks, uh, I think other passion, you know, big data sets and things like that. Yeah, anybody can do that. But then what do you do with the data you're collecting? It's got to go somewhere. You have to understand how to use that in order to help improve your patients' journey with you and also your practice as a whole. Karen Litzy: 14:24 So that's kind of where I'm coming from. A little bit more of the, how can this all be applied in the real world with real patients and real businesses, whether that business be a large hospital, which is going to be way different than what I do. Um, and in some respects, large hospital systems maybe have better data collection. I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there cause they have more resources at their fingertips. So I would, I'm looking forward to are the people who are sitting in the audience to kind of get, Hey, this is what I use for my practice. So kind of sharing best practices amongst people from all over the world I think can really go a long way in supporting each other. Like you said, mark, kind of bringing it back full circle. Yup. Mark Merolli: 15:07 They symposia are very collaborative and that's the whole point of these. Um, you know, we're, we're hoping to not talk too much, uh, outside of audience discussion. Uh, I think we're at a very unique opportunities to point with this topic. Uh, and I think that, you know, as a collective and WCPT has always been a great forum for that to really shape this debate. Um, and actually create some state of, of, you know, guidance going forward. I, and again, like Cath has said in, in our discussions a lot, um, guidance is one thing, but you know, creativities in hello. Um, we actually hope that some of the ideas come from the room and come from the session. Karen Litzy: 15:48 And so let me ask you all the same question before we wrap things up here. And that is your pie in the sky view of this symposium. What would be the best outcome you can hope to achieve at the end of this two hour symposium? Right? Two hours. Yeah. Okay. So what would be your, your best outcome for this two hours symposium? So any one of you can kind of take it first? Ann Green: Um, I'll, I'll go first. Okay, go ahead. Well, I'd like people to think that the time went really fast and they wish their discussion and debates could've gone on longer and that they will continue those debates at the conference and the each person we'll go back Ann Green: 16:39 and say, I am going to get involved. I am going to effect change in my own region, Ann Green: 16:45 in my own area with the people that I'm interacting with. Karen LitzyL Awesome. Mark Cath. Either one want to, Catherine Dean: 16:53 for me, I would like to connect with people who had some bright ideas they have tried and had success with and I'm really happy to to just have a network of academics that are really trying to work on this so you can actually have a kind of a community of practice where you can share your ideas and share what's gone worked well and what hasn't. And and um, look, they'll always be local contextual factors, but there's probably lots to share and, and, and some good ideas if we can get together in a, in a virtual environment. Yep. Mark Merolli: 17:30 Yeah, it looks similar to me. I think what I'd love to say is very much the way that the whole social media landscape ramped up, um, on the back of WCPT congress is, I, I've loved after this congress, you know, educators far and wide start to actually talk about this stuff, starts to try and think of ways, um, to bring this into professional development and university curricula and that um, technology, digital healthcare informatics stays, you know, high on the, you know, WCPT annual member organization agenda. Um, and we sort of see it as a regular feature at conferences and et Cetera. So from this day forth, the type of thing. Karen Litzy: 18:10 Yeah. And I think that's all great news. I would say I would hope to kind of meet other clinicians and practice owners who may be, can again collaborate and be the driver for a lot of the technology that we're seeing in every day use that can then be brought back to maybe local universities and to say to them, hey, listen, this is what we're seeing in practice. This is what needs to be taught to your students. And then see if we can have that collaboration between the academics and the clinicians, which I think is, is sorely lacking in our profession as a whole. That's just my opinion. Um, but I definitely feel like having great collaborations between the academics and the fulltime clinicians can just drive the practice forward in, in a way that will make us more innovative and creative and, and quite frankly, a happier profession. Um, so that would be my sort of pie in the sky view is to really get a lot of cross pollination between all of us Karen Litzy: 19:21 So. All right, one more time. I'm going to thank Mark and thank Ann thank Cath for coming onto the podcast today and for being great partners, uh, in what will definitely be a really fun and interactive symposium. Again, it's edge, it's called education, technology and informatics and it's Sunday, May 12th at 4:00 PM, and that is at the WCPT conference in Geneva, Switzerland. So if you're there, come by, um, and sit down, share your thoughts, make sure you're coming. We want you to come armed with your thoughts on informatics, what you're doing, what worked, what didn't, so that we can have a really robust conversation within the room. So guys, thank you so much for coming on and I look forward to seeing all of you in, in real life, Karen Litzy : 20:16 Geneva. Karen Litzy: 20:21 Yes, bye bye. Thanks everyone. Thanks so much for listening. Have a great couple of days and stay healthy, wealthy, and smart. Thanks for listening and subscribing to the podcast! Make sure to connect with me on twitter, instagram and facebook to stay updated on all of the latest! Show your support for the show by leaving a rating and review on iTunes!
LIVE from Graham Sessions in Austin, Texas, I welcome Justin Moore on the show to discuss the American Physical Therapy Association. Dr. Justin Moore, PT, DPT, a physical therapist and veteran of both the profession and the association with more than 20 years' experience, leads the American Physical Therapy Association in the role of CEO. He has been with APTA for 18 years and has held numerous positions, including executive vice president of public affairs, leading the public policy agenda and payment and communications departments, leading its federal and state affairs advocacy departments and serving as the association's lead lobbyist on Capitol Hill. In this episode, we discuss: -How the APTA strives to provide an inclusive experience as a macro organization -What Justin would change about the APTA -APTA’s role in the World Confederation for Physical Therapy -Justin’s biggest takeaway from the Graham Sessions -And so much more! Resources: Email: justinmoore@apta.org Justin Moore Twitter Justin Moore LinkedIn World Confederation for Physical Therapy Congress 2019 The Healing of America by T.R. Reid Book For more information on Justin: Justin Moore, PT, DPT, a physical therapist and veteran of both the profession and the association with more than 20 years' experience, leads the American Physical Therapy Association in the role of CEO. He has been with APTA for 18 years and has held numerous positions, including executive vice president of public affairs, leading the public policy agenda and payment and communications departments, leading its federal and state affairs advocacy departments and serving as the association's lead lobbyist on Capitol Hill. Moore also previously oversaw APTA's practice and research departments. He has been honored for his contributions to physical therapy and public policy by receiving the R. Charles Harker Policymaker Award from APTA's Health Policy and Administration Section and the Distinguished Service Award from APTA's Academy of Pediatric Physical Therapy. In addition, Moore has written, presented, and lectured on health policy, payment, and government affairs issues to a variety of health care and business groups across the country. Moore received his doctor of physical therapy degree from Simmons College in Boston, Massachusetts, in 2005, his master of physical therapy degree from University of Iowa in 1996, and his bachelor of science degree in dietetics from Iowa State University in 1993. He was honored by Iowa State University's College of Human Sciences with the Helen LaBaron Hilton Award in 2014 and the university's Department of Food Science and Human Nutrition's Alumni Impact Award in 2011, and he was the Family and Consumer Sciences' Young Alumnus of the Year in 2003. He also recently completed a 3-year term on Iowa State University's College of Human Sciences Board of Advisors. Moore was part of the inaugural Leadership Alexandria class in 2004 and served on the Northern Virginia Health Policy Forum Board of Directors. Read the full transcript below: Karen Litzy: 00:01 Hey Justin, welcome back to the podcast. I'm so happy to have you back. So we have a couple of questions to get through today and we also want to talk about the first half of Graham Sessions. So we are recording live at Graham sessions in Austin, Texas. And I've got a couple of questions for you and then we'll talk about your big takeaways from the morning session here at Graham sessions. So first thing is, and this will probably be addressed at Graham sessions tomorrow, but what is the APTA doing the American Physical Therapy Association doing to address the current needs of physical therapists, physical therapist assistants and students to ensure their membership is quote unquote worth it? Justin Moore: 00:44 Yeah, it's a great question. It's a question I get often and unfortunately don't have always a great answer because it is such a personal and passionate issue of how do you find value inside this community of APTA. And as you know, value has two meanings, an economic meaning, do you get a return in your investment? And so we look at the physical therapist and the physical therapist assistant of investing in APTA and do they get a return, so there's an economic part of this question, but there's also a principal part. Do you value APTA? And we'd like to focus on that. And then how can we really engage the physical therapist and the physical therapist assistant and really showing value to APTA and getting value from APTA. And I sort of look at it in Adam Grant's philosophy of give and take, you know, the transactional or economic value is what do you get from APTA? Justin Moore: 01:38 And then the give is what do you give to APTA? We're really blessed by our members giving to us and increasing the value for all. And I think the value at the end of the day, the take home value that PTs get from APTA is we're an unabashedly, aggressive about increasing the opportunities for physical therapists. So if you believe in that mission and that value, how do we continue to connect you to your colleagues? How do we continue to build a community that's going to make this career you've chosen make a difference in people's lives, but also return a fulfilling career to you. And so get that return on investment and that value. So, another thing I'll just tie is our board of directors has been really aggressively looking at how do we continue to be relevant to the next generation of clinicians. And we know healthcare is changing. We know business is changing and we have to be getting better at being relevant at the point of care. We have to get better at promoting the value of our profession and we have to get better at connecting our experts. And right now, I think that's what our strategic planning process is about, is how do we become more relevant to those individual clinicians and professionals. Karen Litzy: 02:50 And I think that's different from a couple of standpoints. One and we’ll probably talk a little bit about this tomorrow, is that APTA is obviously a macro organization. There's 101,000 members. So how do you incentivize members from one not dropping off, So a retention issue, right? And two, how do you attract them in to have that feel of more of a micro organization? Right? Cause it's all about the details and it's all about incentives. So how can the APTA, which is a very large organization and it needs to be that way. It can't be small. So how do you give a macro organization a micro feel? Justin Moore: 03:35 Yeah, absolutely. It's our greatest challenge. And I think, you know, one of the things that is very good about APTA is we interact with probably 95% of potential members in a five year period. So we have 80% market share of students, 30% market share of practicing professionals. It's a little less than 10% of physical therapist assistants. So we do engage with almost our entire community over a five year period. But we have to return value in the short term to keep them a member. And the greatest challenges that is, how do you let this very diverse clinical community, how do you build a spirit and harness the power of inclusion? So people can find their people so they can find their community inside this large network of professionals. And sometimes APTA has been too complex, too fragmented, and too divisive to achieve that objective. Justin Moore: 04:29 And so we have to look at those themes on a pretty regular basis is how do we become more inclusive? And so how do we help people find their people, their network of individuals, because they're going to get great value in that if they're going to be a better private practitioner, if there going to be a better pro Bono clinic operator? If they can connect to their people that's going to return value, how do we reduce the fragmentation? We all are committed to promoting the value of PT Well, if we're talking about the value of a certain part of PT, we're constantly competing inside the PT world. It really dilutes our impact. And we know that from data is we're a pretty fragmented community. And so we've got to reduce that fragmentation and build unity. And have to be better working together. Justin Moore: 05:17 We're not unified. The bigger you get, the harder it is to feel the intimacy. We had a consultant work with APTA’s board one time and he put up a matrix. He said, you can be three of the four things in the quadrant, but you can't be the two things that are across from each other. And the two things that cross each other in that matrix were intimacy and strategic. And so to be a strategic organization, can you still be intimate in an association of one where you address every need, every one, and we have to figure out, we're going to be a complex organization, but we have to figure out how to give an intimate experience, but be strategic in that intimate experience. Karen Litzy: And it's a challenge. It's a challenge for a large organization, but it's good to hear that that's on the minds of the people at APTA. Justin Moore: 06:06 Yeah. I think we've realized that we have fallen short at times of really being able to connect people, really giving people a sense of inclusion. Even though we've tried to be inclusive. If it is not conveying that to the end user or member and they don't feel included then we're missing the mark. Karen Litzy: One thing it's not about is the money. Justin Moore: We can give you in economics, I always tell the story is, you know, it is a federated model, has a complex new structure, but APTA dues are 295 in the realm of that, it's a pretty low price point inside of professional associations. If you compare us to other medical associations, other nursing professions, it's a pretty low price points. We probably return economic value for transactional value to the member, and show that value pretty well. But if they don't value their experience, it doesn't matter what the price point is. And so that's what we really have to work to achieve. Karen Litzy: 06:59 Yeah. Not Easy. I look forward to seeing what comes out in the next couple of years there. Okay. Moving on. If you can end with, maybe we already said this a little bit, but if you can change one thing about the APTA organization, what would it be and why? Justin Moore: 07:13 I think it would be to harness the power of inclusion. We've really been focused on that and how do we create a community that at times has been competitive or fragmented and how do we bring them together for commonality and unification around promoting the value of PT, promoting the brand of PT and we're going through a process right now at APTA of rebranding and we're going to be launching that in the next 12 months. And what we found is we went through the research on doing that is we're conveyed way too many opportunities to put your own perspective of what the value of PT is. And we need to really get unified and more inclusive in that march toward promoting our value. Karen Litzy: 07:57 Simplify the message a little bit more. It is hard because within physical therapy you have so many options of workplaces and how you work and who you work with and states and personalities. And I mean the list can go on and on. I would imagine having that sense of inclusivity among 101,000 members, but 300,000 PTs across the country is not easy when everyone is so diverse, diverse in race, religion, gender and diverse in practice settings. So it's like you have to not be, I'm trying to do everything but a master of none. Justin Moore: 08:43 If you're trying to do everything, you're actually doing nothing. That's sort of been a challenge for APTA. They're trying to be all things to all people and was at times maybe a little bit mediocre at everything. So we really have to do that. And I think the common theme is we've done some analysis both on the data side and then actually a social listing. And two themes come out about the PT community is we're pretty divisive. So when you guys see this is people like to tear other people down or can say that they're better at a certain thing than others. So if we could get away from that divisiveness and correct that, that would be great. If an outsider was looking at our dialogues, it would not be a positive experience. Karen Litzy: 09:36 I’ve had a patient tell me like what you guys really don't get along. I’ve seen some conversations on social media. And I was first of all shocked that a patient would actually bring that up so people are looking and they are reading. Justin Moore: 09:44 We've had outside consultants that have look at this and they said they can't believe two things. How some of our acting members tear us down. And so these are people who have already made a decision to join us but yet like to tear down the organization. And then what we found is when we were out looking at the research on our next strategic plan and looking at net promoter scores our highest distractor group, was some of our longest serving members, and essentially we figured out we're not engaging their expertise well enough. And so that was sort of a wake up call for us instead of saying, oh, why are former leaders tearing us down? We said, wait a minute, they're feeling lost. They're feeling not included. They have given a lot of time to this association and now they feel like they've been dropped off a cliff. And so how do we give them a parachute, how do we give them a glider? What can we do to keep them in the spirit of inclusion? Karen Litzy: 10:36 I think that's great because you know, in some conversations I had yesterday, someone brought up to me that it was really great and it was that the APTA has 101,000 quote unquote experts. So the organization is not the expert. They're the facilitators of all these experts that they have at their fingertips. And just think how much the organization can do by being a stellar facilitator of all those experts. Justin Moore: 11:05 APTA is a vehicle. We don't practice, we don't do research, right? We don't do, we do a little bit of education. We do a little bit for professional development, but we can be a vehicle where our educators can educate, our researchers can publish, our researchers can have access to funding and our practitioners can get that. So we have to really leverage our role as convener. Our role as networker. As a funder. The very basic principle of association is people come together for collective success. So they give us dues you use to put into a collective operation for PR, for advocacy, for all those things. And we've got to get better at that. Include that spirit of inclusion. Karen Litzy: 11:46 Perfect. Alright, next question. So the World Confederation of PT Conference is coming up in a few months in Geneva in May. So how is the APTA improving its outreach and involvement in the international world of physical therapy? Are you going to be in Geneva? Justin Moore: 11:54 Yeah, it's a big priority for APTA to be an international partner and contributor to global PT. And so WCPT is one part of that. It's not our inclusive effort. But APTA has a long history of involvement with WCPT including being one of the founding countries and including having at least a couple of presidents I believe. So, most recently, Marilyn Moffat was president of the WCPT. So we have a longstanding commitment and contribution to WCPT and the conference in Geneva will be a great community of international leaders where we can go and be in a posture of learning. So a lot of times we're not going to, we go and have a delegation at WCPT, but we're really going to interact with our colleagues in Australia and the UK and the Netherlands and really learn from their successes and how we can apply those back here. Justin Moore: 13:01 I think this morning at the Graham sessions when we heard T.R. Reid and it's a great book. I highly recommend it, but he went around and experienced healthcare in different countries. That's sort of what we do at WCPT. We go and we talk to the Netherlands of how did they stand up their registry? How did the UK be frontline in primary care, how did Australia get this great expertise in sports and orthopedics and manual therapy? And so what can we do to really leverage that global community to improve care back in the US as well. WCPT is just like APTA, it’s an organization. And so we have a responsibility as a member. It's interesting, WCPT doesn't have members that are individual physical therapists. Their membership is the organizations that comprise the countries. Justin Moore: 13:49 And so we are one of about over a little over a hundred member organizations at WCPT and we, you know, we take that responsibility very seriously and always are looking for opportunities to contribute to their objectives and especially when they're aligned with our objectives. Karen Litzy: I’m looking forward to going to Geneva. I can't wait. I think it's going to be awesome and I'm actually going to be staying with some international PTs. So one from Canada and one from Ireland. I go to a lot of international conferences. It has really changed the way that I practice, it has changed my outlook on the profession as a whole. And what you find when you talk to therapists from different countries, we're not all that different. The way we practice, the challenges that we all have in these different countries are very similar. And I found that to be very eye opening. Justin Moore: As a physical therapist who's gone into association management, I've gotten huge value from some of my colleagues of other physio therapy associations. Justin Moore: 14:46 So Cris Massis at the Australian physiotherapy association, he's just been a great role model. Someone to learn from. And it's nice because it's safe. You know, we're not competitors. He's got his lane. I got my lane and he's been a great resource. Mike Brennan, who was at the Canadian Association a few years ago has been a great reference and resource and I've just been able to observe a lot of these international CEOs and how they conduct their business. And it's been a great learning opportunity for me as well, a little different clinic than the practitioners. Karen Litzy: 15:20 The parallels are there and the APTA, we’re as clinicians trying to learn from each other and as heads of organizations you're trying to learn from each other. Justin Moore: It's one of the strongest things is the opportunity to interact with those other CEOs. Karen Litzy: So before we finish up, what were your biggest takeaways from the morning here at Graham sessions? Justin Moore: Well, I thought my biggest takeaway, or I don't know if it’s a takeaway or my biggest observation is a lot of thought provoking conversations are already starting. And this concept, and we're going to face this all the time, this concept of what is next in healthcare reform that was started by a T.R. Reid’s presentation, but also what does that mean for physical therapy and where do we need to change our lens? Where do we need to change our focus and how do we need to adapt to be part of the solution, not part of the problem was a key theme. There's a lot of brains in that room, and so I'm looking forward to how they process over the next several hours and come up with solutions. It's easy to point at the problems, but the solutions are always more complex. Karen Litzy: 16:29 So thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for listening and subscribing to the podcast! Make sure to connect with me on twitter, instagram and facebook to stay updated on all of the latest! Show your support for the show by leaving a rating and review on iTunes!
Join the president of the World Confederation of Physical Therapy (WCPT), Dr. Emma Stokes, as she discusses the importance of professional associations, global policy change, young physiotherapists as leaders and where she sees physiotherapy in the future. We discuss some of the many initiatives WCPT is working on and mention the Database of Volunteers and […]
Brian Mulligan, Founder of the Mulligan Concept & Mobilizations with Movement, comes onto HET Podcast to share his insight and advice to the global physiotherapy profession. Brian also shares his story about how mobilizations with movement started along with what it was like to learn from some of the other great names in physiotherapy and much more. Mulligan Concept Website: https://bmulligan.com/ The Mulligan Concept App: https://www.mulliganconceptapp.com/ IFOMPT 2016 Geoff Maitland Lecture featuring Brian Mulligan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APJdM4cH_eo&t=1496s "The Mulligan Concept of Manual Therapy: Textbook of Techniques": https://www.amazon.com/Mulligan-Concept-Manual-Therapy-Techniques/dp/0729541592?keywords=mulligan&qid=1540701905&sr=8-6&ref=sr_1_6 "Manual Therapy: NAGS, SNAGS, MWMS etc" 6th Edition by Brian Mulligan: https://www.amazon.com/Manual-Therapy-Nags-Snags-853-6/dp/1877520039?keywords=mulligan&qid=1540701818&sr=8-2&ref=sr_1_2 Mulligan Mobilization Pads: https://www.amazon.com/OPTP-Mulligan-Mobilisation-Pads-342/dp/B00E3FTRKC?keywords=mulligan&qid=1540701905&sr=8-13&ref=sr_1_13 Mulligan Mobilization Belt: https://www.amazon.com/OPTP-Mulligan-Mobilisation-Belt-635/dp/B002C9GNTY?keywords=mulligan&qid=1540701905&sr=8-4&ref=sr_1_4 Mulligan Self SNAG Cervical Strap: https://www.amazon.com/OPTP-Mulligan-Cervical-Strap-633/dp/B002C9GITO?keywords=mulligan&qid=1540701905&sr=8-7&ref=sr_1_7 Mulligan Concept International Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/MulliganConceptInternational/ Mulligan Concept Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/mulligandk/ The PT Hustle Website: https://www.thepthustle.com/ Schedule an Appointment with Kyle Rice: www.passtheptboards.com HET LITE Tool: www.pteducator.com/het Anywhere Healthcare: https://anywhere.healthcare/ (code: HET) Biography: Brian trained as a physiotherapist at the NZ School of Physiotherapy and qualified in 1954. Two years later he commenced in private practice in Wellington where he remained until 2000 when he finally retired from active clinical practice. Brian's special interest has always been manual therapy since being introduced to the field by Stanley Paris in the early 1960s. He acknowledges as his mentor, Freddy Kaltenborn, but has also found invaluable the contributions of James Cyriax, Geoff Maitland, Robin McKenzie and Robert Elvey. Brian was one of small group of physiotherapists who formed the NZ Manipulative Therapists Association in 1968. He and his colleague, Robin McKenzie, were the principle teachers on the newly formed Post graduate program for the Diploma of Manipulative Therapy. Brian joined the international lecturing circuit in 1972. Currently he has taught in 91 cities in the United States of America and 20 countries of the world. In 1983 Brian relinquished his teaching role on the Diploma programme and began teaching his newly-founded techniques. One of his initial students, Barbara Hetherington, took over his Diploma programme teaching role. She later became one of his original teachers when the Mulligan Concept Teachers Association was formed in 1996. Brian's favorite quote has always been Louis Pasteur's; “In the field of discovery chance only favours the prepared mind” Hundreds of articles supporting Brian's MWM techniques have been published in scientific journals from around the world. A regularly updated reference section is available on this web site. Brian has been the recipient of many awards: Honorary Fellowship of the NZ Society of Physiotherapists (1996) Honorary Life Membership of the NZ Society of Physiotherapists (1996) Honorary Life Membership of the NZ Manipulative Therapists Association (1993) Honorary Membership of the NZ College of Physiotherapy (1998) Ball Dynamics Award for Excellence in a Published Case Study (1997) Award of Excellence of the World Confederation of Physical Therapists (2007).
On this episode of the Healthy Wealthy and Smart Podcast, Jenna Kantor, DPT guest hosts and interviews Dr. Kitiboni Adderley on continuing education for international physical therapists. Kitiboni (Kiti) Adderley is the Owner & Senior Physical Therapist of Handling Your Health Wellness & Rehab. Kiti graduated from the University of the West Indies School of Physical Therapy, Jamaica, in 2000 and obtained her Doctorate of Physical Therapy from Utica College, Utica, New York, in 2017. Over the last 10 years, Kiti has been involved in an intensive study and mentorship of Oncology Rehabilitation and more specifically, Breast Cancer Rehab where her focus has been on limiting the side effects of cancer treatment including lymphedema, and improving the quality of life of cancer survivors. In this episode, we discuss: -The importance of continuing education -Common barriers to pursuing continuing education -Highlights from Kitiboni’s experiences in post-professional education -Kitiboni’s top recommendations for professional development -And so much more! “The medical spectrum is changing so quickly.” “You have to stay learning. Don’t get comfortable where you’re at.” “Learn a new skill so you can serve your population better.” “Find an authority in something that you love.” “There’s almost no excuse to not be better educated.” For more information on Kitiboni: Kitiboni (Kiti) Adderley is the Owner & Senior Physical Therapist of Handling Your Health Wellness & Rehab. Kiti graduated from the University of the West Indies School of Physical Therapy, Jamaica, in 2000 and obtained her Doctorate of Physical Therapy from Utica College, Utica, New York, in 2017. Over the last 10 years, Kiti has been involved in an intensive study and mentorship of Oncology Rehabilitation and more specifically, Breast Cancer Rehab where her focus has been on limiting the side effects of cancer treatment including lymphedema, and improving the quality of life of cancer survivors. She has been a Certified Lymphedema Therapist since 2004. She is also a Certified Mastectomy Breast Prosthesis and Bra Fitter and Custom Compression Garment Fitter. Kiti is avid believer in continuing education to advance her skills and improve her treatment offerings to her patients and clients. She has a passion for orthopedic and women's health and strives to provide high quality, personalized care. She is a very manual therapist and is trained in Myofascial Release and McKenzie's Techniques she is certified in Pregnancy Massage and is a Certified Kinesio Taping Practitioner and Instructor. As she continues grow and to expand her skills, she provides a higher standard of care for the community she serves. Kiti believes prevention is better than cure and that there must be a holistic approach to the patient and the community. She has dedicated her time and knowledge educating the public about wellness and how to manage chronic non communicable diseases such as diabetes and hypertension. She is about to launch her podcast “H.E.A.R. (Health Education Awareness & Rehabilitation) Caribbean” which will highlight the Medical and Wellness Professionals and education those in the region and beyond. Kiti is a Professional Advisor of The Bahamas Breast Cancer Initiative Foundation, the One Eleuthera Foundation and a Susan G Komen Breast Cancer Educator. She has served as President of the Bahamas Association of Physiotherapists for four years and currently represents the Bahamas at the World Confederation for Physical Therapy. She has worked with numerous National Sports Teams and has volunteered with the National Kingdor Parkinsons Association. Kiti enjoys spending time with her husband, and her three daughters. She also enjoys immersing herself in Nature, traveling and experiencing other cultures, reading, cooking and crafting. For more information on Jenna: Jenna Kantor (co-founder) is a bubbly and energetic girl who was born and raised in Petaluma, California. Growing up, she trained and performed ballet throughout the United States. After earning a BA in Dance and Drama at the University of California, Irvine, she worked professionally in musical theatre for 15+ years with tours, regional theatres, & overseas (www.jennakantor.com) until she found herself ready to move onto a new chapter in her life – a career in Physical Therapy. Jenna is currently in her 3rd year at Columbia University’s Physical Therapy Program. She is also a co-founder of the podcast, “Physiotherapy Performance Perspectives,” has an evidence-based monthly youtube series titled “Injury Prevention for Dancers,” is a NY SSIG Co-Founder, NYPTA Student Conclave 2017 Development Team, works with the NYPTA Greater New York Legislative Task Force and is the NYPTA Public Policy Committee Student Liaison. Jenna aspires to be a physical therapist for amateur and professional performers to help ensure long, healthy careers. To learn more, please check out her website: www.jennafkantor.wixsite.com/jkpt Resources discussed on this show: Handling Your Health Wellness and Rehab Website Kitiboni Adderley Twitter Handling Your Health Instagram Handling Your Health Facebook HEAR Caribbean Podcast Facebook Kitiboni Adderley Facebook Kitiboni Adderley LinkedIn Thanks for listening and subscribing to the podcast! Make sure to connect with me on twitter, instagram and facebook to stay updated on all of the latest! 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In this episode, we talk with physical therapists who have embraced their passion and found ways to bring PT to people across the globe. We talk with Emma Stokes, President of the World Confederation for Physical Therapists, Ken Olson, President of the International Federation for Orthopedic Manual Physical Therapists, Efosa Guobadia of Move Together, Renee Songer, and Elijah Freeman as they share their stories of human movement and the impact of PT on the global community. Talus Media News is a subsidiary of Talus Media: PT Views & PT News. You can find all interviews mentioned in this newscast on our sister channel, Talus Media Talks. Check us out on Twitter & Facebook @TalusMedia, and head to our website at talusmedia.org for more information.
One of the highlights of 2017 was talking to the Two Presidents. Emma Stokes of the WCPT and Sharon Dunn of the APTA. Live from CSM 2017 in San Antonio, Jimmy sits down with American Physical Therapy Association’s President Sharon Dunn and World Confederation of Physical Therapy’s President Emma Stokes. They discuss how we’re going to change the world (but it depends on where you’re standing), the pioneers in our profession, and what it means to belong. They also talk about how cool our new headsets are. They all enjoy Karbach Brewing Company’s Love Street Kolsh-style Blonde. Bio: Sharon Dunn, PT, PhD, OCS Sharon L. Dunn, PT, PhD, OCS was born and raised in Shreveport, LA, and graduated in 1987 with a BS in Physical Therapy from LSUHSC in Shreveport. She completed a Masters of Health Sciences degree in 1996 and in 2006 she earned a PhD in Cellular Biology and Anatomy. Sharon achieved ABPTS Certification in Orthopaedic Physical Therapy in 1996 and was recertified in 2006. Sharon’s service to her professional organization began when she was a student and has continued to evolve throughout her career. She currently serves as President of the APTA. Contact Sharon Dunn Twitter: @DunnSdunn2 Bio: Emma Stokes BSc (Physio), MSc (research), MSc Mgmt, PhD Emma Stokes qualified as a physiotherapist in 1990 [BSc Physiotherapy, Trinity College Dublin]. While working as a clinical physiotherapist at St. James’s Hospital, Dublin (1990-1996), she completed a post-graduate Diploma in Statistics in 1993 and MSc (Research) in 1995 both at Trinity College Dublin. She took up an academic position at Trinity College in 1996, completed a PhD in 2005 and a Master’s degree (MSc Mgmt, Business Administration) in the School of Business in 2008. She is an associate professor at the Department of Physiotherapy, Trinity College Dublin [1996 to date]. She was elected as a Fellow of the College in 2012. She commenced a Diploma in Leadership & Professional Coaching in September 2014. Since May 2015 she has been the President of WCPT. Contact Emma Stokes Twitter: @ekstokes Episode Shoutouts Dana Tew, PT, DPT, OCS, FAAOMPT of OPTIM Fellowship (@DanaTew ) Justin Moore, PT, DPT, CEO of the APTA (@policy4pt) Jill Boissonnault, PT, PhD, WCS Rebecca Stephenson, PT, DPT, MS, WCS Marilyn Moffat, PT, DPT, PhD, FAPTA, former APTA and WCPT President (Bio) Justin Dunaway, PT, DPT, OCS, President of STAND The Haiti Project (@DrDunawayDPT) Morgan Denny, PT, DPT Board of Directors of STAND The Haiti Project Episode Highlights 1:45 What keeps bringing you back to meetings like CSM? “We are better together.” 2:57 Emma, you go to events like this around the world. How do they feel the same and different in different countries? “There’s an enormous power in being together in the same space and really interacting with each other.” 4:38 Flirting with almost 100k members in the APTA 5:33 How do the APTA and WCPT collaborate? 6:14 How does the APTA interact with organizations in other countries to move the profession forward? 13:00 What can a practicing PT do to help advance the field of physical therapy? “That best PR is to give the patient what they need when they need it, no more and no less.” “If you’re practicing PT on a daily basis you need to be at your clinical best.” 16:26 Where are we going as a field? “We can’t transform society by ourselves.” “It depends on where you’re standing in the world.” #PartingShot sponsored by OPTIM Fellowship Roll your sleeves up and let’s do this Join and join in #WCPT2017 WCPT Congress 2017 Cape Town Transcript: Jimmy McKay: [00:00:01] The first round is on Owen's recovery science Owens recovery science is a single source for PTs OTs ATCs and DCs seeking certification personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training. Jimmy McKay: [00:00:19] Certified Owens recovery science dot com Jimmy McKay: [00:00:23] I can't thank you enough for taking a listen to the show for another year...
The World Confederation of Physical Therapy Congress was in Capetown, South Africa in 2017. Kayla Hildebrand and I sit down to discuss our experiences at our first WCPT Congress! From volunteering, to attending talks, to mingling at socials, we both agree that the connections made were well worth it. Contacts: kdhildebrand (at) gmail.com globalphysiopodcast […]
On this week’s episode of the Healthy Wealthy and Smart podcast, I had the pleasure of welcoming Dr. Emma Stokes onto the show to discuss leadership and advocacy in physical therapy! Emma Stokes BSc (Physio), MSc (research), MSc Mgmt, Phd is an associate professor and a Fellow of Trinity College Dublin. She is the deputy head of the physiotherapy programme and teaches on the entry to practice programmes in Dublin and Singapore. The focus of her research and teaching is professional practice issues that builds on her work with professional, regulatory and charitable organisations. She is the Minister for Health's nominee for physiotherapy to the Health & Social Care Professions Council & Physiotherapists Registration Board in Ireland. She is currently the President of WCPT. In this episode, we discuss: -Practical steps that create leadership opportunities -Why self-awareness and the Power of No are integral to leadership -Thoughts on what may impact women on their path to higher goals -Dr. Stoke’s experiences with failure and building resilience -A framework for advocacy in physical therapy -How to get the most from a conference experience -And so much more! Dr. Stokes shares great advice for those who want to get involved in higher roles that before you can lead others, you first need to be able to lead yourself. To develop that self awareness you must, “Be clear about what your values are. So learn about your values—where they’ve come from, how they serve you, how you use them in the service of others, what they bring to you as a person. And if you understand them very explicitly then you will understand when they are challenged and whether you're prepared to have them challenged or whether you need to put your hand up and walk away from a situation.” We also discuss the importance of looking to a mentor to help cultivate leadership characteristics within ourselves. Dr. Stokes suggests that you, “Identify something that someone does that you admire and have this conversation with them. Find out how they got to where they are. Sometimes it is just looking at a behavior and saying that is a behavior that is a positive behavior that I would like to adopt. It is mimicking.” Dr. Stokes reminds us that to have an effective therapeutic relationship with the best outcome for our patients, we need to guide them on their journey and that, “The solution is owned by the client. You unpack that solution with them and it is something they own rather than us giving them a fix.” Being an advocate for physical therapy comes down to, “Understanding what it is you want to achieve and really drill down into that. Once you understand what the outcome is, then you need to look at context. What is the environment in which you want this change to happen, who are the key people that may be the decision makers, understand who the people will be in terms of allies, who are the people who won't be so positive about this change... Understanding the context then allows you to think about what you want to do, the strategy… find the [evidence] you need in order to [support] this.” More about Dr. Stokes: Education and work experience: Emma Stokes qualified as a physiotherapist in 1990 [BSc Physiotherapy, Trinity College Dublin]. While working as a clinical physiotherapist at St. James’s Hospital, Dublin (1990-1996), she completed a post-graduate Diploma in Statistics in 1993 and MSc (Research) in 1995 both at Trinity College Dublin. She took up an academic position at Trinity College in 1996, completed a PhD in 2005 and a Master’s degree (MSc Mgmt, Business Administration) in the School of Business in 2008. She is an associate professor at the Department of Physiotherapy, Trinity College Dublin [1996 to date]. She was elected as a Fellow of the College in 2012. She commenced a Diploma in Leadership & Professional Coaching in September 2014. Since May 2015 she has been the President of WCPT. Leadership: Emma Stokes has played a number of leadership roles over the course of her career. Since the early 1990’s, she has been an active member of the Irish Society of Chartered Physiotherapists (ISCP). As well as acting as a professional adviser, she has chaired the Society’s Standing Committees for International Affairs and for Finance. In 2012, she was appointed as the Director of Professional Development and has led the establishment of the ISCP’s first professional development unit, in preparation for the required organisational transformation of the ISCP when the physiotherapy regulatory board opens. Drawing on key stakeholder and member engagement as well as her international experience, she led the project that has culminated in the establishment of a unit of 3 staff and more than 40 volunteers whose chief function is to position the ISCP as a key provider of continuing professional development in the coming years. In 2010 she completed a 5-year term as a College Dean at Trinity College Dublin [15,000 students] with responsibility for student discipline. She was the first woman to be appointed to this senior academic management position. Board membership: Her experience of eight board directorships covers the health, education, regulation and charity sectors. She recently completed a term as the chair of the board of a charity for people with Parkinson’s Disease – www.moveforparkinsons.com. Regulation: She is currently the Minister for Health’s nominee to represent the physiotherapy profession on Ireland’s regulatory authority – the Health & Social Care Professions Council. She has been an invited speaker at the Federation of State Boards of Physical Therapy Regulators (USA) leadership workshop and annual conference and the International Network of Physical Therapy Regulators. She is a member of the recently established (2014) Physiotherapists Registration Board that will regulate physiotherapy in Ireland. Research, scholarship and teaching: Dr. Stokes has had two main research interests. The first has been in the area of rehabilitation with a focus on novel ways to mediate exercise intervention and participation post stroke and in people with neurological disabilities. Her current research focus is on national and international professional issues in physiotherapy. She has published widely in these areas in international peer-reviewed journals. She co-leads the teaching modules on professional issues for the entry-level physiotherapy students at Trinity College Dublin and at the TCD Singapore programme. She spent time on sabbatical at the University of Toronto (2010). She was privileged to deliver the 2013 Chartered Society of Physiotherapy Founders’ Lecture in October 2013 - http://www.csp.org.uk/news/2013/10/11/physio13-founders-lecture-calls-physios-think-creatively In 2014, she was in receipt of a government scholarship from Taiwan as a visiting scholar and was invited to the University of Rhode Island as a Distinguished International Visiting Scholar - http://web.uri.edu/physical-therapy/2014/02/14/international-scholar-dr-emma-stokes-to-visit-uri/ She was appointed as an adjunct associate professor at the University of South Australia in August 2014. International professional adviser: She has acted as an adviser to physiotherapy organisations advising on organisational development and capacity as well as professional issues. She was recently a member in a task force of the American Physical Therapy Association on scope of practice. She was the chair of a WCPT Working Group tasked with an organisational review of WCPT. If you would like to hear more from Dr. Stokes, you can follow her on twitter! For more information on the IFOMPT Conference in Glasgow on July 4-8th, 2016, click here and if you’re interested in sharing your research in Cape Town in July 2017, head over to the World Confederation for Physical Therapy Congress 2017! Make sure to connect with me on twitter to stay updated on all of the latest! If you would like to support the show, be sure to leave a rating and/or a review on iTunes! Have a great week and as always stay Healthy Wealthy and Smart! Xo Karen P.S. Do you want to be a stand out podcast guest? Make sure to grab the tools from the FREE eBook on the home page!
Dr Emma K Stokes is the President of the World Confederation of Physical Therapy. The first two parts of her discussion with the BJSM community has already had >9,000 listeners in just two months. In this part she previews the excitement of the IFOMPT Conference (Glasgow, July 2016), opportunities for sports physiotherapist to develop their careers. @EKStokes closes with 3 take-home messages including one slightly quirky one. Thanks to James Walsh (@SportsOsteopath) BJSM podcast podcast associate editor. Links: First of 3 podcasts on BJSM: Physiotherapists in Leadership: https://soundcloud.com/bmjpodcasts/the-face-of-wcpt-dr-emma-k-stokes-unplugged-life-lessons-leadership-physiotherapy-success?in=bmjpodcasts/sets/bjsm-1#t=0:00 2nd of 3 podcasts: Direct Access, social media & more. https://soundcloud.com/bmjpodcasts/the-face-of-wcpt-dr-emma-k-stokes-unplugged-part-2?in=bmjpodcasts/sets/bjsm-1 Profile of President Stokes in the Independent of Ireland: http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/health-features/world-leader-dr-emma-stokes-31375045.html Emma’s podcast for the MACP (45 minutes): https://soundcloud.com/macp-3/macp-emma-stokes-podcast Interviewed by social media leader for MACP: Gerard Greene (@gerardgreenephy) . Engage with WCPT here: http://www.wcpt.org/news/WCPT-look-forward
Dr Emma K Stokes (@ekstokes) is the President of the World Confederation of Physical Therapy. This is the second of three podcasts. Karim and Emma continue their discussion and touch on direct access to physiotherapy around the world, the changing role of the physiotherapist in the multi-disciplinary team, and best practice for dealing with social media as a professional.
Dr Emma K Stokes (@ekstokes) is the President of the World Confederation of Physical Therapy. This is the first of 3 podcasts Timeline: 1:00m - A fascinating career journey – from student at Trinity College Dublin to President of the World Confederation. 4:00m - “You have to be yourself but you have to understand yourself. Leadership is about bringing people on a journey. Make sure you understand how other people see, or feel about, that journey” 5:00m - The organisation you work in plays a big role too but you can make a difference from wherever you are. Students and early career physiotherapists are as important as the person on the top of the hierarchy 6:30m - The only constant is change (Emma's nod to David Bowie but this was recorded before he died). Having a framework for adapting to change 7:50m - Practice change – applying the lessons to a typical health professional practice 10:00m - The role of the IFSPT – International Federation of Sports Physical Therapists – as leaders, advocates. A huge opportunity for leadership. Education, competency definition, congress organisation 12:00m - Physios as entrepreneurs. Social entrepreneurship – physiotherapists' opportunities to contribute to society 13:30m - Emma's experience on what makes a successful physiotherapy practice 15:00m - End of Part 1 – part two is scheduled for February 12th, 2016 Thanks to James Walsh (@SportsOsteopath) BJSM podcast podcast associate editor. Links: Drew Dudley "Leading with Lollipops" YouTube Video – helping people become better versions of themselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVCBrkrFrBE Profile of President Stokes in the Independent of Ireland: http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/health-features/world-leader-dr-emma-stokes-31375045.html Emma's podcast for the MACP (45 minutes): https://soundcloud.com/macp-3/macp-emma-stokes-podcast Interviewed by social media leader for MACP – Gerard Greene (@gerardgreenephy) Engage with WCPT here: http://www.wcpt.org/news/WCPT-look-forward