Shaggin' Flies

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1 – Podcasting and ENDURANCE and performing 3:30 – I'm TIRED 5:15 – Anne Arundel County 7:45 – NO PLUGS 11:15 – TV News is wild 12:30 – Bamboo Bernie's! 16 – Fascinating Uber rides 19:30 – Maryland seafood, of course 22 – What the hell is the Illinois state flag? 25 – The Dark Side of the Moon 33 – Why baseball? 37 – Don't ask about the Coors Field popcorn 40 – The Yoán Moncada Defense Segment 42 – Tiger Stadium and Robert Fick 49 – In praise of Scary Movie 3 52 – The Order of Operations Trifecta! 55 – Ben has a fixation 1:00 – Pick your ear 1:01 – Tesla is cool, Elon is not 1:07 – Would you fly if it took the same energy as running? 1:14 – The Full Count! Michael's Book Recommendation: Game of Shadows Michael's Food Recommendation: Red Curry Pad Thai Michael's Movie Recommendation: Narc Michael's Music Recommendation: Things Are Great by Band of Horses Michael's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Cymbal Cases Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

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Ben and Zach are fortunate enough to be joined this week by Sean Anderson, former producer at Chicagoland radio station 670 The Score and current host of the Locked On White Sox Podcast, to talk about a million different things that can't possible be condensed into a single paragraph but include, among many other things: hot dogs, Esteban Loaiza, Captain Crunch Berries, why Field of Dreams sucks, and being told at a young age that, plot twist: you're not gonna be a pro sportball player. ------------ 1:30 - Paul Pierce and Derrick Rose buzzer beater bank shots in the 2015 Eastern Conference Playoffs 3:45 – Pink mics 6:15 – A cat or a squirrel? 9:30 – Being told at age six that you're not gonna make it as a sportball player: the Sean Anderson origin story 14 – Dane Dunning love 19:15 – The best New Yorker in North Carolina 21:30 – College radio 23:15 – Get Back reviews and Paul McCartney's granny music 29 – Ranking Springsteen 35:30 – Christmas Shoes? 38:30 – Why baseball? Leaving it alone. 43 – Sammy Sosa, Chicago White Sox outfielder 45 – Esteban Loaiza's windup 46:30 – Hot dog and other essential ballpark foods 53 – Commissioner for a Day 1:01:30 – Order of Operations trifecta! 1:07 – The utterly pathetic Chicago Blackhawks organization 1:15 – A long rumination on baseball movies, the Sandlot, Major League, and Field of Dreams 1:28 – Jesus Christ resurrected outside the 670 The Score studios 1:37 – Ghosts, or lack thereof? 1:42 – The Full Count! Sean's Book Recommendation: Joe Posnanski's Top 100 Players Sean's Food Recommendation: Mac n' Cheese Sean's Movies/TV Recommendation: Die Hard/Deadliest Catch Sean's Music Recommendation: Faye Webster Sean's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Madden Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Shaggin' Flies with Ben and Zach In lieu of a guest this week – and because we need to keep the lights on somehow – we put together some of our favorite deep cuts from the first 22 episodes of Shaggin' Flies. Some of our highlights include, in roughly chronological order: -Michael Ajeto calling the cops on himself -Janice Scurio calls the Cubs flatulent -Sung Min Kim on Tinder -Repeatedly being interrupted by live sports -Scott Chu gets stopped by idiot immigration officials at the Canadian border and then tells us about sign language -Bradford William Davis reminisces on Queens and canceling Cookie Monster -DJ Short on culture and dad jokes -Ghost stories from DJ, Pat Ellington, and Ellen Adair -Sarah Griffin on getting pulled over as a result of the Mookie Betts trade -Sara Sanchez brings a funny story in which you can't laugh -Ellen Adair on acting -The long awaited Cereal Supercut Enjoy! Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Shaggin' Flies with Ben and Zach Ben and Zach are joined this week by their Pitcher List and South Side Sox Colleague Chrystal O'Keefe (@chrystal_ok) for a delightful and rambling several hours that begins in Indianapolis, Indiana and instantly turns every which way imaginable.  --- 1 – Opening with Star Wars 7 – SciFis everyone should watch! 10 – Meeting the Firefly cast 14 – What to do in Indy 17 – The Chicago Bulls All Have Covid 21 – Name-a-Pacer 24 – Writing! 25 – Murder? 30 – Writing a kids book 34 – The great hot dog debate part 224 38 – Gino's East > Lou Malnati's 41 – Michael Ajeto once again finds himself in reference, this time for the crime of liking Malort 42 – Why baseball? 43 – Other sports don't have Tim Anderson. Also, family, writing, and Andrew McCutchen! 50 – Stadiums and food! 52 – Go to Pittsburgh and get a pierogi 55 – Churro love 1:03 – Ben messes up the Order of Operations Trifecta 1:06 – Field of Dreams sucks 1:10 – Toothpaste? 1:15 – A conversation with Carrie Fisher if we could 1:17 – A really genuinely unsettling ghost story 1:25 – Relitigating the windshield wiper self consciousness debate 1:29 – The Great Concert Wishlist (Nirvana, Prince, David Bowie) 1:32 – Writing advice: skip the replies 1:40 – Kids are weird and funny 1:45 – The Full Count! Chrystal's Book Recommendation: Breath Chrystal's Food Recommendation: Garlic and Breadsticks Chrystal's Movies/TV Recommendation: Pen15 Chrystal's Music Recommendation: The Metallica Collection Chrystal's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Take Care Of Your Face 1:55 – Fading out to Miley Cyrus and Wayne Coyne Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Shaggin' Flies with Ben and Zach Zach is joined for a special solo session with Howard Megdal (@howardmegdal) of Baseball Prospectus, The IX, and the Next for a lovely ninety-minute conversation about women's sports, Bard College, the Mets, New Jersey, and plenty more baseball.  --- 3 – Working in politics, but then not 5 – Mouse! 7 – The Next and The IX 10 – A nearly half-hour tangent about the wonderfulness of women's sports and the criminality of their underfunding 31 – Name and Image Likeness 33 – Loving sports at Bard College 35 – Sending angry emails to KenPom 37:30 – Leon Botstein does have a Wikipedia 40:30 – Campaigning the backup center for D3 player of the year 42 – Why baseball? 47 – Basketball is a shot, baseball is an IV 49 – The Baseball Talmud! 52 – Coolest games ever: 2015 World Series, David Cone, and Johan Santana 58 – Alex Bregman and flawed replay 1:02 – Analytics talk 1:06 – Cat! 1:07 – The enemy is certainty 1:09 – Order of Operations trifecta! 1:14 – The consistency of toothpaste as it hits the teeth 1:15 – A conversation with Abraham 1:17 – No ghosts, but Justin Turner is unexplained 1:20 – The Full Count Howard's Book Recommendation: Katherine Heiny Howard's Food Recommendation: South Jersey Pretzel Howard's Movies/TV Recommendation: The Third Man Howard's Music Recommendation: Bria Skonberg; Veronica Swift;Emmet Cohen; Good Jazz and Good Food (in general) Howard's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Flannel pants Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Shaggin' Flies: 1 – Barbie! 3 – From Madison to the Bay 4:30 – Boo Daylight Savings 6:30 – DVR is Of Earth 11 – Witnessing the rise of fantasy live from RotoWire 14 – What If We Kissed In The Combination ESPN Zone/Hard Rock Café 19 – The different vibes of fantasy and gambling 22 – Tales from Sam's Club 27 – Reflections on Oracular Spectacular 31 – Why baseball? Accessability! 38 – Ballparks! 41 – In support of Ballpark Nachos 44 – The Homer Bailey no-no 46 – Order of Operations Trifecta 52 – Chalk up a W for the Sandlot Enjoyers 54 – Devin Harris shoutout 57 – Ben Palmer, Raccoon Murderer 1:00 – Roy Kent would NEVER 1:02 – The Full Count! Derek's Book Recommendation: Answers in the Form of Questions Derek's Food Recommendation: Slow Cooker Pulled Pork Tacos Derek's Movies/TV Recommendation: Schitt's Creek/Tommy Boy/Jiro Dreams of Sushi/Bojack Horseman Derek's Music Recommendation: Little Neon Limelight by Houndmouth Derek's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Go on vacation somewhere cool Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Shagging Flies - Ben and Zach are joined by the wonderful and sharp-witted Matthew Roberson (@mroberson22), formerly of FanGraphs, Baseball Prospectus, and Lookout Landing but currently of the New York Daily News, for a typically meandering joyride around topics from Seattle suburbs, karaoke, the utility of flying, Mariners fandom, and countless other meaningless asides. Subscribe and enjoy! Subscribe: iTunes | Spotify | Google Play | RSS | As usual, on names (2) Sammamish Washington (3:30) Travis Pastrana (7:45) Every kid needs humbling (15) Having a cup of coffee at FanGraphs (23:30) Writers are weird (24:30) Tales from the college newspaper beat at the University of San Diego (27) Oh no, Charlie Morton (33:30) From Dominoes to New York (with some sales in between) On Comedy and Carrie Underwood (43) If you're doing karaoke, make sure you know the song (47) Phone drop! (1:00) Why would you have a roast for your birthday? Why baseball? (1:04:30) Stadium talk (1:11) Spending money? Me? A baseball franchise owner? (1:18) On Yankees fans and Boston fans (1:21) Hisashi Iwakuma love (1:25) Order of Operations Trifecta! (1:30) Concert of choice: Prince (1:37) Who in history would you talk to? (1:45) Not quite a UFO story, but not not a UFO story (1:48:30) Do birds know that flying is cool? (1:52) Matthew almost calls PETA as a child (1:55) The Full Count! (1:59) Matthew's Book Recommendation: Tonight I'm Someone Else by Chelsea Hodson Matthew's Music Recommendation: Sawayama Matthew's Movies/TV Recommendation: Hacks / Catch Me If You Can Matthew's Food Recommendation: Xi'an cuisine Matthew's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Going for a walk Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

0 – Ben butters em up real good 5:30 – It is very much NOT all love, dammit 6:30 – Imagine seizing a team from a billionaire and putting it under control of the state via eminent domain 7:30 – We get to our tangent about owners sucking even earlier than usual, and the relitigation—literally—of the Rams' move from St. Louis to LA. 12 – Jerry Jones DEFINITELY has some really nasty stuff in his emails 15:30 – Married life! 20 – The Drew Silva story 30 – We interrupt the Drew Silva story to report that the STUPID RED SOX are going to the ALCS 32 – Somehow we wind up talking about Philistine foreskins again 36 – A question that starts with “As a Drake fan” 44 – Ben's favorite Drake album is SCORPION???? 52:50 – Multiple curses 54 – Best concerts 1:02 – The joy of the two-monitor setup 1:04 – End of ad break? 1:05 – Why Baseball? The Cardinals! 1:12 – I will **** on Indianapolis until the day I die 1:15 – Ben dodges a bomb threat at work (from someone in a panda onesie) while his parents are concerned with Cal Ripken's impending divorce. 1:18:30 – Ballpark foods 1:20:30 – ****** 1:25 – Phish at Phenway 1:30 – In defense of watery Domestic Lite Beers 1:35 – Is an Opener a Starter? 1:40 – Bring a cricket announcer into baseball 1:41 – Order of Operations Trifecta! 1:51 – A deep and dark revelation from Ben 2:03 – Copying is good! 2:08 – The Full Count! (Recommendations To Be Added Shortly) Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

1:30 – Zach is weary of society and also on a delay 4 – How are you? 5:30 – We are all just hurtling through space on a tiny rock 8:15 – A pair of life coaches 9 – The podcast has in fact started and we are seven minutes and 30 seconds into it 10:15 – The Ellen Adair story begins in Philadelphia, which is how one becomes a Phillies fan, as few people willingly choose it 12:30 – Ben lobs out possibly the worst borough-related joke ever told 15 – Nepotism, etc 16:30 – Ellen Adair is NOT Ellen Adair's *full* name 19 – On the day that we recorded this podcast, someone named Ellen Adair died in South Carolina, but not THAT one 21:30 – A story about Kirk Douglas leads to the pronouncement that whiteness is a construct 24:30 – We are all Declan McManus 27 – We would ALL be so lucky as to perform Death of a Salesman in a Bennigans? 27:30 – Why acting? Transformation! 30 – Ben can't get his Shakespeare plays about English kings straight 32 – Acting, part two: externality and infinity! 35:15 – The Arthur Miller Special 39 – Possibly the first religious turn Shaggin' Flies has taken 45 – We are all wearing masks and performing, whether it be stage, gender, or interpersonally 51:30 – The difference between stage acting and screen acting 57 – Poetry! 1:00 – Zach is lost and returned 1:05 – Watching the super bowl with Dylan Baker 1:12:15 – Meeting Jim Thome > Meeting Barack Obama 1:13 – Baseball drawings! (ellendrawsbaseball@gmail.com) 1:17 – Why baseball? It is the beauty of renaissance painting combined with the apollonian perfection of Newtonian physics 1:25 – The clarity of the drama 1:29:00 – Favorite Phillies players (Jimmy Rollins love) 1:32 – Ballparks 1:38:30 – Order of Operations Trifecta 1:53 – Baseball movies 2:00 – Ghosts, multiple 2:04 – Making rules about seeing ghosts or not 2:12 – Superpowers 2:15 – The Full Count! Ellen's Book Recommendation: Cloud Atlas (shoutout Ulysses!) Ellen's Food Recommendation: Bún Ellen's Movies/TV Recommendation: Maniac Ellen's Music Recommendation: 4Keus Ellen's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Thinking of life in terms of narrative Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

1 – Do people actually care about the Crosstown Classic? 3 – The Sara Sanchez story, originating in Utah 5 – Michael Hermosillo robs Andrew Vaughn of a home run, and Zach forgets that the game he was just watching is not at Wrigley Field 6 – On Wrigley Field 10:30 – Things we don't like: running baseball teams like McKinsey consultants 15 – The walking elote at the park formerly known as U.S. Cellular field is the best food in baseball, including the crab dip waffle fries 15:45 – Sara knows what a bohtini is! 19 – On Cheladas 21 – Battle of the Chicago hot dog part 8 25 – Flavored Malort 27 – Debate! And its benefits. 30:30 – Book chapters on disinformation 38:30 – The Best and Worst of debaters 42 – Why baseball? 44 – The Sandberg Game 47:30 – Commissioner Sara wants to pay minor leaguers and end blackouts. 1:00 – MLB owners suck 1:04 – The Ricketts especially 1:08 – Order of Operations trifecta! 1:15 – Why A League of Their Own is great 1:29 – John C. McGinty or John C. Reilly? 1:31:30 – Jair Jurrjens throws a no-hitter 1:33 – UFO sighting! 1:35 – A remembrance 1:37 – Advice for writing 1:45 – Sadly, high school teachers can't laugh at their students 1:47:30 – M*********** doesn't start with a B! (Sorry Nick, couldn't bleep this one, pretend it's satellite radio) 1:50 – The Full Count! Sara's Book Recommendation: The Lord of the Rings Sara's Food Recommendation: Hatch, New Mexico Green Chile Sara's Movies/RV Recommendation: Battlestar Galactica Sara's Music Recommendation: Tom Petty Sara's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Walking!+ Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

2 –  a long intro on names, how they're pronounced, and where they come from 11:30 – Kansas City is cool 13 – What's in Delaware? 15 – The origin story 23 – has dived 25 – what matters is you 30 – golf 35 – brian the plant doctor 41 – why baseball 52 – on will clark 55 – ballparks 58 – malort 1:01 – commissioner bubba 1:09 – order of operations trifecta 1:14 – we lose ben and it's pretty funny 1:19 – strong opinions on baseball movies 1:22 – déjà vu is not a ghost but it's something 1:26 – on metallica 1:30 – important lesson about writing – don't be scared 1:37 – The Full Count Brian's Book Recommendation: Live From New York: An Uncensored History of Saturday Night Live Brian's Music Recommendation: Metallica Brian's Movies/TV Recommendation: Breaking Bad/Goodfellas Brian's Food Recommendation: Tripas Tacos Brian's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Get organized! Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

1 – Let's cut the BS y'all, fantasy sports are gambling 2 – Straight into the deep end with ten minutes about gambling, DFS, fantasy sports, and being an analyst 13 – Who Is Justin Mason? 15 – From D.C. to the Army to NorCal! 17 – Mission Accomplished!!1!1! 19 – On addiction and recovery 21 – Disclaimer! 25 – On the importance of being yourself in your writing 26 – Taking over for Eno Sarris, no pressure 27 – What. Is. The. Deal. With. Those. Shirts? 30:30 – When someone approaches you to talk about the Freemasons, it feels like a slippery slope towards anti-Semitic OneWorld conspiracies at the like 35 – The height disparity between Ben and Zach is gonna be weird to gauge when we finally meet IRL 37 – A reminder that Ben is 30 and I am 12 42:30 – If this show has a track, it's this one 44 – History of TGFBI and Tout Wars 51:30 – Nick Pollack, not unlike Nick Cannon, is spreading his seed far and wide 56 – It makes for GREAT radio/podcasting when Zach freezes in a funny pose 57 – I'm actually way too lazy to edit the whole part out so enjoy the 90 seconds where we try to figure out why there are two Zachs in the studio 1:02 – Why baseball? Do what you're good at! 1:09 – Balancing fantasy analysis in different sports 1:17 – Michael Carter-Williams? 1:20 – Burnout is real! 1:24 – Paul Sporer is not listening to this podcast 1:30 – We Love Hunter Pence 1:32 – Jeremy Affeldt and weird baseball injuries 1:36 – Favorite stadiums – Oracle is pretty dang nice 1:38 – ENOUGH WITH THE HISTORY MAJORS 1:45 – Justin Mason is Commissioner of Baseball and there are No More Unwritten Rules 1:51 – If it's a standard from the segregation era, it's probably not great! 1:58 – Order of Operations trifecta! 2:03:30 – Ben insists on continuing to refer to waterless toothbrushing as “raw dogging it” 2:05 – Justin DEFINITELY saw a ghost 2:10 – Still a dearth of fast food chicken sandwich takes :/ 2:15 – RIP Stephen Hillenberg 2:20 – Removing the stigma around profanity 2:21:30 – Justin's daughter with some truly inventive language 2:29 – The Full Count! Justin's Book Recommendation: The Color of Water by James McBride Justin's Food Recommendation: Sushi Justin's Movies/TV Recommendation: The West Wing Justin's Music Recommendation: Miscellaneous Grunge Justin's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Being of service Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Enjoy episode 18 of Shaggin' Flies, featuring Sarah Griffin (@skg_18), whose work you can find here, as we cover an uncountable number of completely inane topics, including: 1:15 – Ben begins the pod with a handy lesson on figuring out how to deal with delays 2:00 – Silver the 20-year old calico cat sets a new record for podcast interruption 3:20 – Why have we non-Massholes probably heard of Watertown, MA?

In Which Zach Accidentally Deletes The Word Doc With All The Episode Notes So, Here's A Recording Of Game Four Of The 2005 World Series Instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaAsMEN7qbA Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

2:45 – Plugs and gassing up 4:15 – The history of Locked On Orioles 6 – In Praise of the Google Form 7:30 – Making it through the pandemic with the 2012 MLB playoffs 12:15 – Love to Odrisamer Despaigne 15:15 – College and minor league broadcasting is pretty cool! 17 – Ode to the Bowie Baysox 21 – How times have changed since Matt Wieters 25:15 – Trying thing in college is cool 29 – You gotta remember your best calls 31 – In appreciation of radio broadcasting 35:15 – I Am Once Again Asking Announcers To Make A Little Bit Of Effort To Learn How To Pronounce Names 37 – Oh, Ed Farmer 39:30 – Slander for Scott Garceau and FP Santangelo 44 – Shoutout Don Orsillo 48:15 – We Love Gus Johnson 50 – The Great Joe Buck Debate 55:30 – Ben imitates Tim McCarver reading Metallica lyrics 58:30 – Why Baseball? 59 – It's relaxing! You get down time! 1:06 – Shoutout Erik Bedard and Adam Jones 1:08:30 – Oriole legend Steve Pearce 1:12:15 – Twelve minutes of Chris Davis 1:24 – Thoughts on the rebuild? 1:27 – Brady Anderson? 1:33 – Yeah, the Yankees aren't running out Travis Hafner and Vernon Wells anymore 1:37:15 – We all run into Jim Thome in an elevator sometimes 1:41 – College baseball is dope (and Silver makes her weekly appearance) 1:44 – Comerica Park has a merry-go-round on the concourse 1:45 – Order of Operations Trifecta! 1:49 – We need a Ben's Wife Reaction Cam 1:56 – Zach the horribly sad conflation between Fab Melo and Melo Trimble 1:57 – Zach goes Back to Back and pronounces GIF like JIFF and it's so bad I had to censor it 1:57:30 – As per usual, Moneyball is good, also as per usual, the Sandlot is overrated 2:01 – What would it be like to actually have an off-the-record, one-on-one with Chris Davis? 2:03 – The Full Count! Connor's Book Recommendation: The MVP Machine Connor's Food Recommendation: Grab & Go Taco Connor's Music Recommendation: Superstore Connor's Music/TV Recommendation: Culture III Connor's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Watching the night sky at Cherry Spring State Park Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

3 – Cleveland gets a bad rap! 5 – Why do we all hate Cleveland again? 6:30 – CC is the goat 9 – The Black MLB Players you need to know about series 9:30 – Aaaaand he's gone 11:30 – The Lindor trade is a garbage thing to have to write a second article about 17 – Jumping from film to journalism and all similar creative endeavors 21 – Behind Tangible_Uno, aka, we all get in trouble for pissing off Curt Schilling 23 – In support of Alice in Chains 26 – Favorite Anime/Manga 28 – Bad wifi will be the death of us all! 30 – Appreciation for Heat, Memento, and Michael Mann 35 – Why baseball? 35:30 – Chaos! 39:30 – We're all basically writing book reports 43:30 – Commissioner Pat is looking out for Minor Leaguers and front office and ballpark workers 47 – The Order of Operations Trifecta 51:45 – Jackie Robinson was a much, much better baseball player than actor 54:30 – Joakim Noah on Cleveland 57:30 – On being emotionally wounded by Jeremy Guthrie 59:30 – Benevolent ghosts 1:02:30 – Zach questions the usefulness of invulnerability 1:04 – Respect to Janet Jackson and Sadé 1:07 – The Full Count! Patrick's Book Recommendation: House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski Patrick's Food Recommendation: Steak and Lobster Patrick's Music Recommendation: The Price of Tea in China by Boldy James & The Alchemist Patrick's Movies/TV Recommendation: The Wire Patrick's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Minor League Baseball! 1:15:30 – Wrapping up with the Great Pickle/Hot Dog Debate Part 391.3 Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

2:00 – Opening with good vibes by remembering the time Nick forgot to record Zac Gallen's side of a podcast interview 5:00 – Reminiscing on the Slack days 6:00 – Pitcher List meetup! 6:45 – Nick is from Brooklyn but doesn't have an accent 7:30 – Nick puts a watermelon inside of a stroller to fit in in Brooklyn 9:00 – What if it was a Doberman in a stroller instead of a "pocket dog"

1 – Anthony Santander appreciation 3 – Shoutout William Henry Harrison 7 – Answering emails as a fantasy analyst is different when you have kids 9 – Imposter syndrome! 11 – Cursed league 12 – Tony Kornheiser: JUST DO IT 13 – Y'all don't wanna know what my DMs look like 14 – The Story of DJ 15 – Ben begins a forty minute mid-podcast game of fetch 18 – Yes, Dear was an underrated sitcom 19 – The animals run the show here 20 – The Joy of college radio 25:45 – Echoooo 28 – Turn up at Salisbury 32:30 – Who's good at de-escalating? Not police! Also, time to talk music. 34:30 – Shoutout Rancid 37 – Music as cultural currency, and why the music we listen to when we're younger sticks with us 40 – It's the cat's turn to say hi 41:45 – An elegy for mixtapes 43 – I am child (and as old as Ben's brother) 48 – Being surprised on the radio 50 – Late millennials went from limewire to paying Apple $10 a month

0:00 – I remembered to hit record the first time this week! All the note times are like 45 seconds behind but whatever. 1:00 – WashU! Great school! 4:00 – A bit of history about Justin's life 7:00 – Seoul is big 9:30 – Aspects of the KBO/in defense of singles 14:00 – The strikeout/homer debate, part 3579767 18:00 – The difference between analyzing hitters and pitchers 21:45 – Hitting is like dieting (but on the metric system) 24:00 – Corey Seager panned out a lot better than either Matt Wieters or Gordon Beckham 27:45 – Shoutout Matt Hobgood 31:00 – Following the chain of analytics 35:00 – Danny Santana, baby 38:15 – Houses of the Holy as Justin's favorite Zeppelin album 44:15 – Killer Mike isn't enough of a communist for Zach 49:30 – The Gray Album got Ben into hip-hop 52:30 – Can't Fake The Funk! 54:30 – Why baseball? 55:00 – Why? Baseball is weird!!! 58:00 – More on the KBO and stadiums 1:03:30 – Men smashing heads 1:07:30 – Ben revisits smoked meat at KBO games 1:08:45 – Professional owners lobbied to have no-peddling ordinances passed outside their publicly funded stadiums, forcing local economies to shut down, banning them from public space, and forcing people to buy overpriced food inside the stadium 1:10:45 – The weekly Michael Ajeto appearance 1:12:30 – On pumping out articles twice a week 1:14:15 – Shoutout Adrian Houser 1:17:15 – Order of Operations Trifecta 1:20:00 – Ben learns Justin's age and is SHOCKED 1:21:00 – Zach and Ben reflect on what they were doing at the life stage where Justin is writing for Fangraphs 1:23:30 – Ben chooses violence by relitigating the Chicago hot dog 1:25:15 – Competitive skiing (and the potential for fantasy skiing) 1:29:00 – Justin needs baseball movie recommendations 1:33:45 – Perfect Game 1:36:45 – Who discovered music? 1:39:15 – We heart unexplained noises! 1:40:30 – Budapest or Bangladesh? 1:42:30 – Teleportation would be cool 1:44:30 – Don't use a nonstick pan 1:45:30 – The Full Count! Justin's Book Recommendation – Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi Justin's Food Recommendation – Kimchi Justin's Movies/TV Recommendation – Monty Python and the Holy Grail Justin's Music Recommendation – Voicenotes by Charlie Puth Justin's Miscellaneous Recommendation – Read other people's work!   Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

The title says it all—this week, Ben and Zach are joined by Insider investigations writer and former New York Daily News baseball columnist Bradford William Davis, who took the time to talk about everything from Queens to DC and back. Check out the timestamps for some details, or hints, depending on how you take them: 2:30 - Forest Hills, Queens; Tennis and Peter Parker 7:15 - Simon and Garfunkel went to high school with Peter Parker 8 - Defending the Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire Spider-Mans (1 and 2, at least) from the zoomers 11 - Stop the TikTokking! 17:15 - Missing comedy in New York City 18:30 - Cities are cool! 22:15 - There are no skyscrapers in DC! 24:45 - Private police forces are evil 26:00 - The road from Baruch College to baseball writing 33:00 - Getting paid late is indeed a bit of a red flag when it comes to employers 35:15 - Bradford on working for HBO and making his way to the Daily News 37:45 - Editors are awesome, editors are the best.  44:30 - How it can be helpful to not have one's identity wrapped up in their professional career, and going against the grain of major media norms. 48:15 - They did indeed Thanos (verb) the New York Daily News 51:45 - Shouts to the non-baseball people holding us down as we scream our heads off in this ridiculous industry 55 - Why baseball? The chill! And the excitement! 1:01:45 - Roger Clemens' competitive fire 1:05:30 - Trevor Bauer is neither unathletic nor inspirational  1:09:15 - Can anybody confirm that Greg Maddux believes climate change is real? 1:14:00 - On individualism and its problems as reflected in sports media 1:18:00 - Aaron Judge and Yankees fandom (being dumb sometimes) 1:30:00 - Order of Operations Trifecta! 1:30:30 - Ben's dog joins the show momentarily 1:37:15 - Does seeing people catch the Holy Spirit count as seeing a ghost? 1:41:00 - Cookie Cancelled: Cookie Monster Under Fire Following 2013 Tweets 1:44:00 - 5Eva, the TV Show 1:50 - The Full Count! Bradford's Book Recommendation: The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson Bradford's Food Recommendation: Birria Tacos (Appearance Number Two//shoutout Janice)! Bradford's Movies/TV Recommendation: Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? Bradford's Music Recommendation: WILLOW Bradford's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Trader Joes Coffee Ice Cream; Koval Bourbon; MF DOOM Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Ben and Zach are on a break this week, so we're delivering you a selection of some of the best moments from the first seven editions of Shaggin' Flies, featuring six of our friends from all around the baseball internet. Our pods run pretty long—if you're reading this, you know—so there are a lot of cool little nuggets near the back of these conversations that deserve some more air time. Guests include, respectively: Alex Fast (2:30), Chris Paul Towers (9:35), Michael Ajeto (20:30), Janice Scurio (40:45), and Sung Min Kim (1:14:14). Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Shaggin' Flies is joined this week by Scott Chu (@ifthechufits), Pitcher List writer and manager and czar of the phenomenon knows as Fantasy Curling. Scott was such a horrid, difficult, uncompelling guest that we just HAD to talk with him for three whole hours, so I'll let the notes do the rest of the talking: 0:01 – The show is thrown for a loop from second number one as we are confronted by the visage of a non-mustachioed Scott Chu 0:03 – Naturally, the first all-cis-male-identified episode of Shaggin' Flies in three weeks spends the first six minutes talking about facial hair 0:08 – Scott and Ben on deriving just the slightest pleasure from playfully annoying their spouses (to Zach's befuddlement) 0:10 – Oh yeah, the introduction. #GingerBalance 0:12 – The joys of Southwest Michigan, and giving out Moderna at the Pfizer factory 0:14 – Freud would have something to say about how close we all are to our parents 0:16 – The regional accents of the Upper Midwest, some of which are close but not quite to Canadian. 0:20 – The teenage Michigander tradition of trekking to (and ruining) Windsor, Ontario gets Scott into trouble with immigration officials 0:23 – How the federal government got Wisconsin to raise their drinking age 0:26 – How to properly order a burger at a 24-hour diner (hint: not medium-rare) 0:29 – Scott dives deep into the fascinating minutiae of American Sign Language 0:33 – Turns out ASL also has TONS of problematic language (or, “if it was invented by white people in the 1800s, it's probably racist”) 0:37 – The surprising degree to which our cognition and modes of thinking and being are directed by the ability to hear. 0:43 – Sign language has no tenses and minimal grammar, and Zach gets way overly optimistic about language learning as a route to increasing empathy 0:48 – Pidgin sign and a way cooler way to refer to Kalamazoo, Michigan 0:53 – Ben dubs us (accurately) the Seinfeld of baseball podcasts 0:54 – One of us has graced the cover of the Wall Street Journal and it's not Ben or Zach 0:55 – What is Fantasy Curling and how did it get Scott Chu in the WSJ? 1:02 – Fantasy Congress and Fantasy Supreme Court are (or were) a thing, apparently. 1:06 – Curling as Canadian Golf 1:09 – The idea of Fantasy Congress is complicated by the dysfunctional-at-best nature of the American government 1:12 – Oberon and Leinenkugels, legends of the Midwest 1:13-1:20 – How Eno Put Zach Onto Hazy IPAs Which Are Kind Of Like Sours But Not Really (Either Way Ben Hates Both Of Them And It's All Because Of Warheads) (As In Candy, Not A Nuclear Device) 1:21 – Two things that are close to water 1:22 – Pregaming a Motion City Soundtrack show 1:24 – Malört and other wraths of Chicago 1:29 – Jesus getting sponge-fed wine while up on the cross is an objectively funny image 1:32 – BRING ME TWO HUNDRED PHILISTINE FORESKINS 1:37 – Why baseball? Sunburn! 1:41 – The fun of writing the Batter's Box segment, and Ben's request for information about Philip Evans is denied, because we're not a baseball podcast or anything. 1:43 – “You're a hack!” “Duh!” 1:46 – Scott spends two minutes giving a well-reasoned analysis of Pavin Smith, because it is a baseball podcast. 1:51 – The official position of Shaggin' Flies: Baseball Is Good! 1:53 – Scott details his time working for the Fair Housing Association, all the terrible acts of racism, ableism, and discrimination one encounters in that line of work, and therefore being perfectly okay with bringing politics into sports. 2:00 – Being buried in the news? Not great for mental health! 2:02 – Tiger Stadium and the ~plethora~ of Memorial Stadia 2:05 – The GM building flips the bird to Canada, in true ‘Murican fashion 2:05 – Scott and Zach bond over hatreds of Indiana drivers 2:08 – Gigantic burgers at Fifth Third Park make Zach and Ben lose their math for a sec 2:11 – Order of Operations Trifecta 2:15 – Scott and Ben on arguing with their kids about personal hygiene 2:20 – Ben Palmer resembles Matt Stafford (and Zach's cat makes her appearance) 2:24 – Even in Scotland they hate gingers 2:27 – Homer at the Bat 2:31 – Bob Costas in Baseketball 2:36 – Just some white guy BS, huh 2:40 – Almost made it to the end before the weekly Michael Ajeto mention! 2:44 – Shoutout to Ben's brother Greg, with reference to the boiling hot dog water incident 2:50 – The Full Count Scott's Book Recommendation: Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams Scott's Food Recommendation: Bulgogior Bibimbap Scott's Movies/TV Recommendation: Bob's Burgers Scott's Music Recommendation: Linkin Park (Hybrid Theory) Scott's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Dove Hand Sanitizer Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Shaggin' Flies is joined this third week of April 2021 by Dugout Dish founder and Paducah Sun sports reporter Chelsea Ladd (@chelseabrooke), who was kind enough to chat with us about everything from career choices to covid to crying to high school baseball to the minors to the majors to LSU to the Brewers and Mets and Dodgers and Mike Piazza and moonshine and TONS of other stuff you'll find in the notes below! :02 - Chelsea has a new job! :03 - Opening thoughts: knowing clicks on the internet is BAD :05 – Leaving the medical field and relatable COVID unemployment struggles :10 – The weekly Michael Ajeto name drop :11 – How dugout dish came to be :15 – Crying and being weepy is good :17 – Ben cries at ** :19 – Zach cries at ****** ******** :22 – Being a full-time sports reporter! :25 – What's great about high school sports :32 – The Evansville Otters and the wonderful accessibility of minor and independent league baseball :39 – Freshman pitchers doing cool stuff :44 – Good outdoors-y stuff to do in Kentucky :50 – Chelsea's laptop almost dies on us but doesn't :51 – Triple Play Baseball 2001 =

This lovely spring week of April 15th, Shaggin' Flies is joined from Seoul, South Korea by Sung Min Kim, brilliant baseball mind, former Lotte Giants front office member, and journalist whose work has appeared at Deadspin, The Washington Post, FanGraphs, and The Athletic for a two-and-a-half hour journey meandering from life in Korea and the United States, the (sometimes) guilty pleasure of intoxicated McDonalds, his forthcoming MS in Sports Business, and of course, his body of work across American and Korean baseball. Enjoy! 0:03 - Glee watch parties 0:05 - In defense of the Squier guitar 0:08 - American school lunch 0:10 - US portion sizes; getting in trouble at Chipotle 0:13 - Baseball in and around Seoul, South Korea 0:18 - Tales from the University of Maryland, College Park, heavily featuring but not limited to Ratsie's Pizza and the McDonalds across from the UV apartments 0:23 - Craving fish filets 0:28 - Shaggin' Flies does not condone Breaking & Entering (but make it cool if you do) 0:33 - Permission to curse, but not at Chicagoland high school basketball legend Jon Scheyer 0:36 - It should be acceptable for players to call fans down from the stands and challenge them to fight if they talk too much **** 0:41 - Cromulent, my favorite word 0:45 - Making the most of the good ol' Journalism degree 0:50 - Pitching mechanics geek-out, featuring Paul Nyman and Ben Brewster 0:53 - RIP Deadspin 0:55 - American influence on KBO organizations 1:00 - The unveiling of spin rate

This week, Ben and Zach are joined by the one and only Shelly Verougstraete (ShellyV_643) of Pitcher List, Dynasty Guru, and Over the Monster for big ol' conversation that starts with the silent letters in her last name and winds up at the show's second reference to Churro Cinnamon Toast Crunch, with a few asides about Fenway, ghost hunting, the joy of prospecting, and the occupationally-inspired names of small towns in Virginia ending in -ville. Enjoy! 0:01 - The heartbreak of being an Orioles fan, part 823 0:03 - Mechanicsville, Virginia 0:06 - Political yard signs and their theft 0:08 - Ben sees a ghost live on air 0:10 - Trivia completely unrelated to this podcast (but relating to Lil Nas X) 0:14 - Shelly teaches Ben to pronounce her last name, and Ben explains the structure of the Belgian government 0:19 - Farmville, Virginia (and all the other villes) 0:26 - Life as a CPA (or not) 0:32 - The joy of baked goods and Zach's howling cat 0:35 - Making peanut butter cookies with ketchup? 0:42 - Shelly y sus dos perros, y porqué sus nombres son Orsillo y Soto 0:48 - Pedro Martinez and Red Sox Fandom 0:56 - Why baseball!? (Feat. howling cat appearance number two) 1:00 - "Who do you think you are? I am!" -Pete Weber 1:10 - On the joy of prospects, writing about prospects, being knowledgeable about prospects, and getting to see as much baseball as possible 1:15 - Zach learns about the Orlando Arcia trade 1:20 - Dr. Sticks tears up the minors 1:23 - Order of Operations Trifecta! 1:26 - Cereal milk and Cinnamon Toast Crunch cake (no shrimp involved) 1:32 - Ben and Shelly mercilessly slander The Sandlot for potentially very valid reasons 1:40 - The abominations known as the sequels to Major League 1:42 - Skydiving Elvises 1:45 - Ghost hunting as the sober friend 1:50 - The virtues of a good "that's what she said" joke 1:52 - The Full Count!  Shelly's Book Recommendation: Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present by Ruth Ben-Ghiat Shelly's Movies/TV Recommendations: The Great British Baking Show/Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Shelly's Music Recommendation: Fantasies by Metric Shelly's Food Recommendation: Noodle Man (location: Virginia Beach) Shelly's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Baking! 2:02 - As is customary, all seven of our listeners are thanked :) we appreciate y'all!  Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Ben and Zach talk to Janice Scurio (@scuriiosa) of Baseball Prospectus and NBC Sports Edge for a good long talk about her work as a librarian, entering the baseball writing world, covering the White Sox (and a no-hitter!) in a pandemic, and many things Chicago-related and otherwise. The following times are approximate but they'll get you in the general vicinity: 0:03 - The support group for wealthy people 0:06 - The DeweyDecimal System 0:10 - When being a librarian involves power tools 0:18 - Working Plato's Apologia into a Baltimore Orioles season preview 0:29 - Zach confuses Chris Davis, Khris Davis, and Crash Davis 0:38 - Michael Ajeto is mentioned for the third time in four weeks 0:40 - North Side Sox plug! 0:50 - Cloud Gate, a.k.a. The Bean 0:55 - Bodies in Lincoln Park 0:58 - Birria tacos and Chicago dogs 1:08 - Yes, the James Shields trade happened 1:20 - Growing up with the problematic Hawk Harrelson 1:26 - Asbestos lawsuit money  1:32 - Scrapbooking Roberto Alomar 1:35 - Weekly perfect game/30-3 loss appearance [redacted] 2:00 - Oh, we know. 2:05 - The difference between gyro and hero 2:15 - Aliens! 2:17 - Tyler Glasnow and his hair products 2:27 - Appreciation for deez nuts jokes 2:30 - The Full Count! Janice's Book Recommendation: The Son of Good Fortune Janice's Food Recommendation: Pita Inn Janice's Movies/TV Recommendation: Lupin Janice's Music Recommendation: SOPHIE Janice's Miscellaneous Recommendation: Peloton Follow Shaggin' Flies on Twitter @ShagginFliesPL Email us at shagginfliespodcast@gmail.com Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Ben and Zach are joined by Michael Ajeto (@dysthymikey), Pitcher List and Lookout Landing contributor and counselor extraordinaire, for a lengthy conversation that begins with 45 minutes of mental health talk (with a content warning regarding suicidal ideation and other symptoms) before meandering everywhere from our own names to the depths of our own brains. Anyway, some other highlights include: 0:00 - Our many names  0:15 - Growing up in the Pacific Northwest 0:25 - On psychology, mental health and Michael's thought-provoking medium post 0:40 - Ben notes our lack of a time limit as Michael explains the amygdala 1:08 - We finally start talking about baseball 1:12 - The 2001 Mariners were super cool 1:20 - All thirty of our remaining listeners receive a hearty thank you 1:22 - Certain things that are legal in Washington and Illinois... 1:25 - ...that might have made Michael call the cops on himself 1:40 - Socks before pants, and Zach's apparent difficulty drying his feet 1:52 - Michael explains why Friends sucks 2:05 - Seeing ghosts! 2:12 - Ranking Nirvana albums 2:20 - Why Speedin' Bullet 2 Heaven is a Kid Cudi favorite Michael's Music Recommendation Follow Shaggin' Flies on Twitter @ShagginFliesPL Email us at shagginfliespodcast@gmail.com Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

CBS Sports and CBS Fantasy analyst Chris Paul Towers (@CTowersCBS) joins Ben and Zach for a long and winding road of a discussion that includes pop funkos, living in South Florida, being in the Miami Herald print room during Osama bin Laden's capture, covering Isiah Thomas's ill-fated coaching run at FIU, why Paul McCartney and London Calling reign supreme, and finally, in a direct rebuke of Episode 1 guest Alex Fast, why Flea is an overrated bassist. Enjoy! Follow Shaggin' Flies on Twitter @ShagginFliesPL Email us at shagginfliespodcast@gmail.com Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

Senior Fantasy Writer for The Athletic Jake Ciely (@allinkid) joins Ben and Zach LIVE at PitchCon 2021 to cover serious and urgent topics including DuckTales (original and reboot), Jack Bauer, having it out for Evan Engram, working at a deli, getting cold called by Tony Kornheiser, and most importantly, a lengthy defense of the practice of putting milk in the bowl BEFORE cereals. Click here to watch the Shaggin' Flies live show at PitchCon 2021! Follow Shaggin' Flies on Twitter @ShagginFliesPL Email us at shagginfliespodcast@gmail.com Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

VP of Pitcher List and MLB Associate Producer Alex Fast (@AlexFast8) joins Ben and Zach to discuss his acting career and filmography, life in Columbia, Maryland, finding inspiration in Samuel Beckett and Stanley Kubrick, his favorite bassists, worst stage experiences, Saturday Night Live, and plenty of baseball, including his favorite pitchers past and present, the best parts of Camden Yards, the Curse of the Andino™, how he found Pitcher List, and of course, why baseball. Follow Shaggin' Flies on Twitter @ShagginFliesPL Email us at shagginfliespodcast@gmail.com Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus

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