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Join the Hogg Hive or be a Carol Aird on Patreon to listen ad–free, access extra eps & receive the monthly newsletter – or become a Party Girl just to help!Kate's joined by "girlfriend of the pod", comedian Zoë Coombs Marr who is about to wrap up her latest stand–up show The Splash Zone at MICF to talk White Lotus, Severance, Real Housewives of Sydney and how she also made out with one of the Real Housewives of Melbourne once.Zoë's Also Alsos:Balcony gardeningDexiesLiza Treyger's stand–up special Night Owl on Netflix Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join the Hogg Hive or be a Carol Aird on Patreon to listen ad–free! Or become a Party Girl supporterKate's joined by forever It Girl Ione Skye to talk about her new must–read memoir Say Everything, her creative life & loves, perceptions of relationships then & now, her real life 90s L Word era and the film she made with Sofia Coppola that's impossible to see.Ione's Also Alsos:A History of Rock Music in 500 songs podcast by Andrew HickeyThe Andy Warhol Diaries Soundtrack by Brad OberhoferThe Brian De Palma documentary 'De Palma' directed by Noah Baumbach & Jake Paltrow Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On BL's last episode as co-host of See Also, she and Jinxy hop in a "borrowed" truck, head to Joshua Tree and destroy one another's lives, one Instagram post at a time. It's the Ingrid Goes West poodle episode!A reminder: we've introduced new Patreon tiers! – The Party Girl– The Hogg Hive– The Carol AirdSign up at Patreon.com/SeeAlso and keep an ear out for a future ep announcing Kate's upcoming guests.These humans discuss the nostalgia era of Instagram and its brand of Venice influencers, "Is Ingrid Goes West queer?", what's your biggest emotional wound?, the genre of obsession movies, just how much money was left in Ingrid's backpack, and this incredible cast of Aubrey Plaza, Billy Magnusson and a bunch of nepo babies/siblings: Elizabeth Olsen, Wyatt Russell and O'Shea Jackson Jr.See Alsos:An Instagram Influencer Reviews Ingrid Goes West‘Ingrid Goes West': How a First-Time Filmmaker Cracked the Sundance CodeWhen Grown-Ups Have Imaginary FriendsHow Dare Celebrities Cheat?On Joan Didion's 'everywoman.com'Welcome to Me (2014)Tracking Noise – director Matt Spicer's new newsletter all about physical mediaAutograph Hound Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join the Hogg Hive for this week's bonus Oscar ep & listen ad–free! Or become a Party Girl supporter to help keep See Also going! New prices & tiers at patreon.com/seealsoBrodie's been drinking fancy vinegars in a place (actually) called Cockatoo, Jinx is dropping by a favourite Inner North spot and doing whatever the stern Scottish woman in her ear says to her, and then we have some Big News about See Also ahead of our third anniversary next week.And then it's time to chat The Pitt, Yellowjackets, The Newsreader and will they actually watch The Real Housewives of Sydney??? – yes – before a very special set of Also Alsos.Also AlsosThe NALA Support Wirefree BraletteGeoffrey O'Connor's new album 'I Love What We Do'BRUXA body oil in summer jasmineIone Skye's memoir 'Say Everything'Pep premium black pepper + their Sunny Side Up collab with PiccolinaMike Leigh's film 'Hard Truths' Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Now is a great time to join the Hogg Hive! Dig into last week's Q&A episode and check in for our Oscars recap next week at Patreon.com/SeeAlsoKate discovered it was not peak hour at the rock, acid casualties trasmuting them girls to the light. Brodie is moving again, went to a music festival and saw Kylie sing a song about a girl being murdered to a little girl. Kylie wine sponsor the pod!! No one would care about Nick Cave in a shopping centre.Will Kate go full Babygirl aka see Romy DJ at Heaps Gay? Stay tuned to find out!Speaking of old gals: Kate's great aunt is in a movie club and Brodie sobbed through the film of the year aka Bridget Jones: Mad About the Boy.Then it's time to discuss the Traitors (US), and have some spoiler-y chats about Severance (APPROX 33:25 – 47:33) and The White Lotus (APPROX 47:45 – 1:05:45). Because of ad placement, the times are approximate – another reason to go ad–free via the Hogg Hive on Patreon!See AlsosAD's tour of the home from Bridget Jones 831 Stories – Big Fan novelMike White x Southern CharmA Guided Tour of Severance's Goat RoomProfile of Mike White in the New Yorker Charlotte Le Bon's film Falcon Lake streaming on Stan + Amazon PrimeAlso AlsosOfficine Universelle Buly Huile Antique Mexican Tuberose Dry Body OilEvenings & Weekends by Oisin McKennaE Nolan fly t-shirt Carrol Jerems "Portraits" at National Portrait Gallery – on until 2 March + great piece about it in the latest issue of The Monthly Elizabeth Sankey's film Witches on MubiJulio Torres 'Color Theories' at MICF Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A re-release of last year's Poodle episode on Party Girl, after our two sold-out screenings at Thornbury Picture House earlier this week!Join the Hogg Hive (aka our members' only club) at Patreon.com/SeeAlso for ad-free episodes, bonus content and more

50 years ago, a 20-something Peter Weir decided to hypnotise us away from the possibility of solutions when he adapted Joan Lindsay's novel into the Australian gothic horror classic, Picnic at Hanging Rock. On Valentine's day in 1900, the students from Miss Appleyard's depart their fortress-like school in rural Victoria for a lazy afternoon at the base of Hanging Rock. The hot wind blows in, the clocks stop, the girls peel off their stockings and, as the ants descend on the remains of the picnic, four girls ascend the rock, along with one of their teachers. Only one of them returns. As people hear of the mysterious disappearances, search parties break out, but only one girl is recovered, missing her corset and her memory of what happened at Hanging Rock. As are we all. Because if you need an ending you're a bit weak in the head.See AlsoThe Secret of Hanging Rock available on eBay or via this PDFJoan Linsday's memoir 'Time Without Clocks' published in 1962Mulberry Hill, Joan's house which is now owned by the National TrustInterview with producer Pat Lovell in Cinema Papers from 1976Scan of the scriptDeleted scene of Mrs Appleyard at the rock NFSA page that includes info about the costumes and deleted scenes and stills, interviews with cast and crewJudith Dorsman's dollsMartin Sharp's Tiny Tim concert film is on Plex and his unfinished doc Street of Dreams is on YouTubeThe BeguiledThe FitsUmbrella's Making of Picnic at Hanging Rock – part 1 and part 2Magic Dirt's She-Riff videoThe Fast Forward sketch Anne Lambert on ABC's just Between UsNew adaptation from Sydney Theatre Company playing 17 February – 5 April 2025 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If Brodie sounds different it's because she's 35 now. That's not a prime number, which is the focus of Kate's new (bad) spy show. Let's call a croquembouche a croquembouche! Sorry for spoiling the fourth Twilight movie for you.Want to send in a Q for us to A on an upcoming Hogg Hive bonus episode? DM us on Instagram @seealsopodcast reply on the callout over on our Patreon. (Sign up while you're at it!) We've got lots of movies to get into, in varying degrees of detail.BABYGIRL from 17:25 – 30:47 (some spoilers!)QUEER from 31mins – 41:26EMILIA PEREZ from 41:27 – 52minsCONCLAVE from 52:30 – 56:28A COMPLETE UNKNOWN from 56:30 through to our Also Alsos this week.Speaking of!!Also AlsosPalace Coffee on Ridgway PlaceMelbourne Cinematheque's 2025 seasonSNL 50 – Beyond Saturday Night on BingeKate Berlant in Sydney & MelbourneChao Ban – Viet Sticky Rice (XÔI XÉO) pop-up Every Weds & Thurs in Feb from 5pm at Henry Sugar – 296 Rathdowne street, Carlton North.The Sundays "Reading Writing Arithmetic" from 1990 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week Kate Jinx is joined by comedian & film lover/critic/chameleon Alexei Toliopoulos to talk about Gillian Armstrong's 1982 film with that "little something extra" – Starstruck! A musical extravaganza that is So Sydney, complete with a pub under a Harbour Bridge pylon, a talent show at the Sydney Opera House (or is it the Seymour Centre) and a gig at the Lizard Lounge aka the Bondi Pavillion. A breakout role for Jo Kennedy, it's still way too underseen but Jinx and Alexei are on a mission to make everyone watch it as many times as they have.Join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear Alexei's Also Alsos coming soon!See Alsos:Alexei's interview with Gillian Armstrong for the Sunburnt Screens podcastJo Kennedy in Tender Hooks (dir. Mary Callaghan, 1989) on YouTubeThe incredible Starstruck costumes at NFSA:Kate's Rediscovering Starstruck piece by Kate (as seen on Wikipedia!): https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/aug/01/rediscovering-starstruck-gillian-armstrongs-80s-rock-musical-extravaganzaThe Coca–Cola Kid (dir. Dušan Makavejev, 1985) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week on the pod, Brodie discusses the flip flop of the TikTok ban, going to Boiler Room and posting into the void. Kate is going back to her design roots and needs a new spy show. They both remember David Lynch, king of Bob's Big Boy and freaking kids out at a young age. RIP legend.Then, it's time to check in on what we're reading!Books we discuss:Good Girl by Anna FitzpatrickNarrow Rooms by James PurdyYou Are Here by David NichollsWoo Woo by Ella BaxterFilterworld by Kyle ChaykaOur Evenings by Alan HollinghurstAlso Alsos:35 Simple Health Tips Experts Swear ByOlive Made 'Sunshine' bags Living Skin Hydrating Haze & Essential MoisturiserFor Scale newsletter Japanese cotton artist shirt from Caves CollectYou Are Here by David Nicholls Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There's a lot going on in the world and we're finding it hard to stay upbeat!!!We're soaking and other people are reading books in the spa. It's so annoying that not drinking makes you feel better? Kate's selling stuff on Depop and Brodie gives a WWHL report.We debrief on a few films, new and not-so-new: A Different Man, The Brutalist, Lee and Conclave (just a tiny chat – more next time!)See Alsos@merchmotel is documenting all the historic buildings lost in Altadena / the Eaton fireErika Jayne talking about psychological evaluation with Mel from RHONYBrady Corbet interview in le Cinéma ClubAn article on Lee Miller's kitchen at Farleys HouseAlso AlsosDonate to Pasadena Humane SocietyX-cetra's 'Summer 2000' 25th anniversary re-releaseRamona books in Westgarth Village, NorthcoteMasses Bagels' new shopOur Friend, Willem film series at Golden Age CinemaPidapipo's monthly special: milk choc with Amarena Jam and choc brownie pieces Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Happy new year! FYI we had a few tech issues that meant some chunks of audio didn't record properly this week, so apologies for the chats that might stop or start suddenly, and also the wacky audio levels. Ghost in the machine!!This week, Kate and Brodie talk about doing karaoke, should we watch I'm Not There again?, last we saw each other Brodie was going to a hen's do and Kate went to a kick-on at a house owned by someone whose dog is Top Chef's instagram friend (sure!) and to a bar called Disco Pantera, Brodie got a DM NDA for a hot Melbourne cocktail, the dog who works at the Park Hyatt is retiring this month, does Melbourne need more breakfast spots (not cafes!).We watched a lot of stuff over the break! Kate watched The Lady Vanishes, Brodie's going to the movies again to see A Different Man and Lee, Brodie saw An Unmarried Woman and tries to do the Nosferatu voice (sorry), she's confused the Lighthouse and Swiss Army Man (and also confused that movie's farting corpse with one about a propellor penis WHOOPS sorry don't @ her). They both watched Heretic (Kate's nephew's introduction to Hugh Grant was the Oompa Loompa in Wonka), The Room Next Door, Anora, All We Imagine as Light and Better Man – shockingly we have very different responses to Monkey Robbie Williams. Kate also watched The Lost Daughter finally – the audio of that bit cut out SORRY!! Brodie saw Wicked for a third time (hehe) and Kate's been visiting Somebody Somewhere and loved Bad Sisters season 2 – BL less so. Do not invite us round, Garvey sisters.Also Alsos Marisa Meltzer's newsletter, Soft PowerTina Brown's newsletter, Fresh HellMecca Cosmetica To Save Face SPF 50+Alex Goldman's Hyperfixed podcastCunk on Life on NetflixClockwatchers streaming on 7+ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A holiday episode out from behind the paywall while we take a small break – but back next week with a Best of 2024 episode just for the Hogg Hive! Join The Hogg Hive on Patreon for access to all our special episodes.This week, See Also is wishing you a happy new year – twice! – with the most perfect rom-com to ever exist: When Harry Met Sally. They discuss the two iconic pairings: Nora Ephron and Rob Reiner, Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal. And they dig into the wagon wheel coffee table, Baby Fish-Mouth, “Thin. Pretty. Big tits. Your basic nightmare.”, going on a road trip with a man asking BL for the story of her life, imagine giving a Dorit "carcass out" drink order on a plane, this is in the Drop Dead Fred extended universe, being someone's weekday girlfriend, Harry's from Haddenfield like Michael Meyers, pesto is the quiche of the 80s, the Puck building on Lafayette St, Meg Ryan as queen of the rom-com, “This is a talk piece,” days of the week underpants ARE funny!, Don't fuck with Mr Zero, a very cold hard mexican ceramic tile, "On the side is a very big thing for you", Princess Diana thinks it's so naughty.See Also:Nora Ephron on Desk Set When Harry Met Sally remembered by Alice Behind the Scenes French KissCrossing DelanceyHeartburnPostcards from the EdgeDerek Guy: HOW TO RECREATE EVERY GOOD OUTFIT IN HARRY MET SALLY

To match our recent See Also presents Carol cinema screenings, we've pulled out this classic ep from a few Christmases ago. Join The Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear last week's mini ep and an upcoming Best Of 2024.For a very special holiday Poodle, Kate is joined by Chelsea Fairless, co-host of Every Outfit for a virtual glove-lunch. Together, they play 1950s and devolve into "dyke debauchery" while discussing our fave and yours: Carol, based on crime novelist Patricia Highsmith's "The Price of Salt" starring Cate Blanchett and Rooney Mara. They cover the martinis and creamed spinach, Our Cate's voice and her period-inappropriate manicure. Also: Alsos!See Also:The original short story Carol/The Price of Salt is based onScreenwriter Phyllis Nagy discussing the way the film finally came togetherKate McKinnon's Carol parody for the Film Independent Spirit AwardsKing Princess song 1950, inspired by CarolForbidden Love: The Passions behind Patricia Highsmith's "The Price of Salt""Carol" Up CloseWatch Also:TárLoving Highsmith (with caveats discussed in the episode)Nelly & NadineWord is Out: These are the Stories of Some of our LivesThe Children's HourThe Killing of Sister GeorgeDesert HeartsHigh ArtThe L Word & The L Word: Generation Q (LOL)Also Alsos:Chels recommends: Byredo lipstick in Subtropical, Lana Del Rey - Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean BlvdJinxy recommends: her Zodiac Club extended playlist on Spotify, Gay Bar: Why We Went Out by Jamie Atherton Lin, Je Tu Il Elle Find us on Instagram @seealsopodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A rapid-fire list of reccs from The Age's chief restaurant critic. In this bonus episode, which you can listen to in full when you join The Hogg Hive over on Patreon, Besha shares her spot for a Jinxy-style LDATB (little drink at the bar), tells us about "one of the great, great Melbourne rooms", and tells us about some over- and under-rated restaurants, the meal she wants the second she lands back in Melbourne, and the place she'd suggest for dinner in a famous dead-zone of the CBD.To listen to the full version of this bonus episode, support See Also on Patreon!For just $5 USD / $8.50 AUD a month, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays. No days off!Weekly posts in your email with all the episode links & show notesAccess to special Q&A episodes (like this one!) & occasional bonus episodesFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhJoin the Hogg Hive at patreon.com/seealso Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we're joined by Besha Rodell, the James Beard-winning food writer who filled the shoes of Jonathon Gold at LA Weekly, has told NYT readers how Australians eat, and is currently the chief restaurant critic at The Age and Good Weekend.She tells Kate and Brodie about being the last remaining anonymous food critic the un-deification of The Chef, her upcoming book, how and why she does her job, and why food isn't the only reason to go to a restaurant.Join The Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear Besha's rapid-fire reccs in a bonus episode next week!See Also – Besha's reviews we mentionWe know Ben Shewry doesn't like the Good Food Guide. And we don't careThis Melbourne icon divides food snobs – but our critic keeps going backReview: Kisumé in Melbourne, AustraliaFive months after opening, this hyped city restaurant was still empty, and it's easy to see whySpots Besha mentioned:Vue De MondeJim's Greek TavernWaiter's ClubMario'sBratwurst Shop & Co.France SoirMalinBesha's Also AlsosTzaki TzakiHeartstopperWine growing regions in Great Southern (WA) and Gippsland Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Kate and Brodie talk about Stuff Again, this time the things that tempted them during Black Friday. They discuss the queer dance party of the season – no, not the Troye Sivan show; Kate's partner's birthday party!!!Join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear our recent gift guide episode, future bonuses, and every episode ad-free and early. Or: gift a membership to a See Also fan in your life!We follow the brick road whose shape – but not its colour – is protected by stringent copyright law to Shiz University, where we had a GREAT TIME!!!! And then avoid doing accent work to chat about the brilliant TV adaptation of Patrick Radden Keefe's book, Say Nothing.Don't forget to grab your tickets to our screening of Carol at Thornbury Picture House on 17 December!See AlsosWild at Heart (for Laura Palmer Glinda)Girl, Interrupted (for Clea Duvall playing a Wizard of Oz obsessive (and pathological liar))Return to Oz (based mainly on the book Ozma of Oz)Patrick Raddan Keefe's original New Yorker essayKneecap, screening in Aus cinemas nowThe Crying GameThe Disappeared Craic Pack: How the Irish Came to Rule Pop CultureAlso Alsos Film Map on TumblrSweethearts – dir by Jordan Weiss, on BingeFashion Neurosis with Bella FreudGood Morning's new album, The AccidentE Nolan pop–up, Thurs–Sun until 22 Dec – 43 Derby St, CollingwoodThe Season by Helen Garner Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

You asked, we recommended. In our holiday gift guide, which you can listen to in full when you join The Hogg Hive over on Patreon, we recommend gifts for "the Rebel Wilson in the family", Diane Keaton in The Family Stone, and many genres of dad.To listen to the full version of this bonus episode, support See Also on Patreon!For just $5 USD / $8.50 AUD a month, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays. No days off!Weekly posts in your email with all the episode links & show notesAccess to special Q&A episodes (like this one!) & occasional bonus episodesFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhJoin the Hogg Hive at patreon.com/seealso Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A different kind of episode – and one sans Also Alsos because we don't need any more things! (You DO need to get your tickets to our holiday screenings of CAROL though, don't forget.)Here are a few choice quotes we shared in this chat, and some recommended reading:“As I get older, I'm resentful of how much I have accumulated. I'm actually angry about it.” – Stacey LondonThe yard sale scene in Ghost World:Angry Garage Sale Woman : How much for this dress?Rebecca : God, I can't believe you're selling that.Enid : That's $500.Angry Garage Sale Woman : What?Enid : 500.Angry Garage Sale Woman : You're crazy. It should be like $2.Enid : I was wearing that when I lost my virginity.Angry Garage Sale Woman : Well, why do I care about that?Enid : Well, why do you want it? I mean, it would look stupid on you anyway.Angry Garage Sale Woman : God! Fuck you!“I work today with the manifesto that clutter is unresolved decisions.” – Megan Morton“I don't buy that much new stuff at all. I get the thrill of a hunt, this one thing that nobody else has. I always think of it as part of my job and my business, so it's okay, but I really just want less stuff. Why do I always want something new? What's missing in me?” – Chloe Sevigny'Does it bring you joy?' vs. 'If it was covered in shit would you throw it away or clean it?' – Some random person on tikok"The first thing I tried to unload was four folk-art handbags, each constructed out of braided cigarette-pack wrappers by incarcerated Americans in the nineteen-fifties and sixties. I'd amassed the collection in the nineties, on eBay, for reasons that now elude me." – Patricia Marx"The trick to buying things you don't regret is looking all the time and rarely buying. Spend days wandering in and out of shops the way snooty snoots plunder through galleries. Try on things that are popular or appeal to you without any intention of buying them. Look at things way outside your budget and at fast fashion brands. (Canal Street and the New Arrivals at Shein are a reporter/researcher's best-kept trend cipher.) Do the same at vintage stores and Net-a-Porter and Mytheresa and all the good indie stores online (Worthwhile, Stand Up Comedy, Maimoun etc etc). Go to places like Outline and LaGarconne and ask the people working there to explain the brands and pieces to you. Try to keep cool headed and you'll soon find that you know so much that you really know you're being seduced instead of merely flirted with." – Rachel Tashjian in OPULENT TIPS #83See Alsos Raquel Caballero on Opposite EndsA Guide to Getting Rid of Almost EverythingWhat Jason Schwartzman can't live without Amy Sedaris's house tourCity of Yarra recycling centre Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Don't forget to get your tickets to our holiday screenings of CAROL!This week Katie Janx from MUFF and Brodie Lancaster (not the boy from Albury Wodonga) have a couple of corrections about Francis Ford Coppola and the white rapper Addison Rae's mum actually dated. No one on Threads or Bluesky are funny, kind of like those chicks on RHONY. Jinxy is back on board with RHOSLC, but less so with Gladiator II. Brodie wants to work for Martha Stewart, and both of us kind of want to raid Guru Jagat aka Kundalini Katie's closet after watching Breath of Fire.Get more See Also when you sign up to the Hogg Hive on PatreonSee AlsosBL's column about Martha StewartHayley Phelan's Vanity Fair article, The Second Coming of Guru JagatThe Vanity Fair article about Breath of Fire, which is based on that Vanity Fair articleAlso AlsosNew Deborah Levy book, The Position Of SpoonsKim Deal's debut solo record Nobody Loves You MoreWill & Harper (Netflix)Ziggy Pleat Dress from ALPHA60 My Brilliant Career at MTC directed by Anne Louise SarksACMI's new program, Focus on Peter Weir (Wed 29 Jan – Fri 14 Feb 2025) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhMaybe you're in need of some comfort watching right now, and with the holidays just around the corner we've got three little words for you: You've Got Mail. This week Kate drops in on her dear pal and author Dan Jones on an autumnal day in New York to talk about Nora Ephron's beloved 1998 romcom starring Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks, Parker Posey and ... Dave Chappelle?! Over a tumble of pumpkins and gourds, Dan and Kate talk haircuts, surprise cameos, catfishing and cosiness vs capitalism.See AlsosYou've Got Mail oral history in Vanity FairYou've Got Mail shooting locations by Refinery 29Out & About in the New York TimesArt of the Title interview with graphic designers Milton Glaser, Walter Bernard and Mirko IlićDan recommends 3 New York indie bookstoresQueer Bookstore at the CenterBooks Are MagicThe Center for Fiction Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week BL has sensory overload on the tram, Kate got a bad first email of the day, what did she learn about Amyl and the Sniffers from Brodie's profile of them?, going Chris Farley mode talking to Waxahatchee about Gilmore Girls, Kate's phone thinks she's someone else entirely, where were we on election day in 2016 and where have we come since?We discuss the performances and purposes of The Apprentice, then Brodie fills Kate in on Jason Reitman's Saturday Night and the latest episode of Saturday Night Live, Kate will NOT be putting on a pink cowgirl hat for Chappell Roan but that's okay, the internet is being insane about John Mulaney.While we're on the subject of pop girlies: Brodie is fanging to talk about Addison Rae, Kate and Brodie each have information to share each other about Sabrina Carpenter, "Barry Keoghan's wife should be hosting SNL".Then it's time to debrief on the little indie flick called Megalopolis, we're mad at Joaquin Phoenix but he looks really good, Frances Ford Coppola gave Kate the gift of Pepsi Max.We've both watched Fanatical: the Catfishing of Tegan and Sara, a documentary that made us remember the good songs and the L Word episode, and debate "Fegan" and the merits of a directors inserting themselves into a show. Kristen Stewart in Twilight lost a Saturday to unnecessary research.Our next screening at Thornbury Picture House is a lesbian holiday classic: Todd Haynes' CAROL (2015)Join us on Dec 17 for two screenings – 6pm and 8:30pm – with a post-film chat, plus a special martini.Get your tickets!Keep an eye on our IG to submit your requests for our holiday gift guide + advice column!See AlsoWhere's My Roy Cohn?Live From New YorkSean Price William on Addison Rae in DazedThe English Teacher – streaming on Disney Plus and HuluCelebrity Book Club 'Club Kids' episode on FanaticalCasey Affleck and Rain Phoenix's kidMartha Stewart responds to Ina Garten's book on WWHLMarisa Meltzer review in NYTimesAlso AlsosThe Row playlistsDistant Call: Collected Demos 2000–2006Culture StudyStructure Face Sculpt facial at Little CompanyMartha on NetflixTHE FIRST AND LAST OF ENGLAND: THE QUEER LEGACIES OF DEREK JARMAN at Melbourne Cinematheque 6–20 Nov Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Before we get to the terrors of contemporary life, it's time for Kate and Brodie to chat about their holidays. Kate went to London, Cornwall, Paris, New York and LA, and Brodie went to Tokyo and Hanoi. They agree that Christine Vachon would've had a conniption at Pudong international airport in Shanghai, discuss the eras of Keira Knightley, rice porridge, Alexei Toliopoulos and Zachary Ruane's Refused Classification.There's a TV dispatch: on lying about owning Pioneertown in Selling Sunset, Perfect Couple and doing lots of Irish accents, lesbian witches in Agatha All Along and lesbian housewives in RHONY, (Ryan) Murphy's Law states we gotta talk about Monsters.Also: Alsos!Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear this week's bonus episode all about our holidays.Brodie is joining Lauren Taylor & Simon Winkler on Nov 16 at Hope Street for Good Question. See Also listeners can get 30% off their tickets for the Nov 16 workshop with the code SEEALSO. Get your ticket here.See AlsosBetween the Temples @ JIFFGuy Blackman's vinyl reissue of Adult BabyNew single from Harvey SutherlandAlso AlsosSoccer Mommy's new album EvergreenYou Beauty by Mish GrigorReal Housewives of Salt Lake City on HayuSabah Bolo slippersCabeau travel pillowMojave Ghost by Byredo Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It knows what scares you.It's spooky time, and Kate and Brodie venture back to 1982 to recap Tobe Hooper's classic Poltergeist. We discuss the Spielberg "collaboration", Zelda Rubenstein's incredible performance and advocacy, the obsession with undies, and the reality behind the "curse".See AlsosOral history: Poltergeist at 40Griffin Dunne: Friday Afternoon Club interviewA Father's Account of the Trial of his Daughter's KillerFind us on Instagram @seealsopodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's See Also, Kate's in LA and visiting your other favourite podcasters – Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garroni from Every Outfit! We chat about celeb (and celeb adjacent) spotting at the Chateau Marmont, cybertrucks, lesbian manicures, London, Gollum Girls, and their upcoming Every Outfit Down Under Tour coming to Australia & New Zealand in December.Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear ad-free and bonus episodes of See Also.Also Alsos from Chelsea & LaurenSimone Rocha book by RizzoliFever Tree tonics, drinks & mixerskit: facial compatibility cleanser (discontinued, a cry for help)Huda Beauty Faux Filter Under Eye Colour CorrectorEdie Parker Soft Serve Lighter HolderSugar Baby directed by Lauren GarroniAccidental Also Alsos from KateCafé CeciliaLiberty Designer Vintage Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's See Also, Kate and Brodie are cracking the spine on Kathleen Hanna's memoir, Rebel Girl: My Life as a Feminist Punk. We talk about our experiences crossing paths with Kathleen over the years, the things we learned (and didn't hear about) in this book and what it means to have Kathleen be the author of her own story finally.Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear ad-free and bonus episodes of See Also. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're both overseas at the moment so pulled this classic ep out of the archives!This week, Kate and Brodie are digging into the source material, backstory, iconic moments and sexy highlighter costumes of the outcast classic: Romy and Michele's High School Reunion. Jinxy also coins a great new abbreev: et cet. There might not be Also Alsos this week, but don't worry, there's still plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.It's 1997 and Romy White and Michele Weinberger, best friends and fun cool party girls who live in Venice Beach, find out their 10 year high school reunion is coming up. As all the old, buried teenage insecurities re-emerge, Romy insists they need to improve themselves before coming face-to-face with their high school bullies, by getting more impressive jobs, finding boyfriends and SOMEHOW losing weight. Once they get closer to the event, they find themselves lying about their lives and losing one another for a few hours, before reuniting just in time to resolve all their high school trauma with (what else?) a dance scene.See AlsosMira Sorvino's Oscars speechLA times review of Ladies' RoomRonan Farrow's early reporting on WeinsteinAn Oral History of Romy and Michele's High School ReunionJaneane Garofalo Never Sold Out. What a ReliefHow Hollywood can make it up to the actresses Harvey Weinstein smearedMira Sorvino answers all our Romy and Michele questionsWatch AlsoThe ComebackReality BitesFind us on Instagram @seealsopodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhDescribed as "Dead Poet's Society meets Clueless", The Hairy Bird is a 1998 film written and directed by Sarah Kernochan. Inspired by her time as a student at the Connecticut girls' boarding school Rosemary Hall in the 1960s, the film follows new student Odette Sinclair (Gaby Hoffman) as she meets the ICONIQUE headmistress Miss McVane (Lynn Redgrave) and falls in with a new clique led by Kirsten Dunst's Verena Von Stefan. No sooner is Odie welcomed in than their friend Tweetie (my girl Heather Matarazzo) overhears the school board's plans to merge Miss Godard's into a co-ed school with the nearby St Ambrose Academy. This sets the films antics into motion, pits the boy crazy Tweetie and Tinka, an aspiring "actress-folk singer-slut", against Verena and brainiac Momo (our girl Merritt Wever) and eventually leads Odie to stage a sit-in to demand the girls at Miss Godard's have a voice in the future of their school.Brodie is joined by her bff Anton De Ionno to discuss the sad saga behind this film's release, its legacy in our lives and many spiritual connections to Gilmore Girls.See AlsosHaley Mlotek's piece in MetrographInterview with Sarah Kernochan in Business Insider + in Flashback Films26 years before The Holdovers, Disney buried the best boarding school comedyPeter Biskind's 2004 book Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance, and the Rise of Independent FilmAnton recommendsAn Unmarried WomanLove Is a Drag: For Adult Listeners Onlydry-humping Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's See Also, Kate and Brodie are both prepping for some time away, plus Jinxy recaps the Melbourne premiere of Beetlejuice and BL describes a bizarro time seeing Blink Twice at Kino's "Cinema 8".On the docket this week are chats about two very brilliant and very different films: Coralie Fargeat's The Substance (skip from 32:37 to 53:43 if you don't want spoilers) and Jane Schoenbrun's I Saw the TV Glow. We chat about how it's been a big year for chicks shooting up, finding a bit of flesh to poke an earring in, listening to what a film is saying – even if it's not speaking to you – and being simply a lesbian. Also: What was your Buffy journey and What Was The Name of Your High School Band? Is South Yarra the SoHo of Melbourne? Is asking that question totally insufferable? All that and more, this week on See Also!Also: Alsos!Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear our upcoming bonus episodes.See AlsosEmily Gould's profile on Chloe Sevigny for The Cut Miranda July answers All Fours questions in Emily Sundberg's newsletter Feed Me The Substance Is Disgusting, Twisted, and Instantly DivisiveFor This Director, There's No Such Thing as Too Much BloodKelli Weston's The Substance review in Sight & SoundDemi Moore for Interview MagazineKate's review of I Saw The TV Glow in The MonthlyAlso AlsosThe Beautiful BunchLe Creuset Stoneware butter dishReissue of Horizon Unlimited (1970) by the Lijadu SistersSeason ChickenSmall Feelings: The Films of CassavetesRomance by Fontaines D.C. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's a momentous day. Months after brazenly begging any listeners with the keys to a boutique hotel to invite us to stay, we're doing it. We're podding from a suite. Specifically, a suite at the United Places Hotel Botanic Gardens. They invited us to stay and we've spent the weekend seeing the sights of South Yarra, sipping martinis and eating the entirety of the ocean. We couldn't be more smug and insufferable thank you very much!! You can be equally annoying when you post up in this glamorous hotel – book using the code SEEALSO for 15% off your stay!Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon for ad-free and bonus episodes.Also: Alsos!See AlsosSee Also Southside: the google mapAlso AlsosListen to Olivia Laing's conversation with Sophie Cunningham about their new book, The Garden Against Time: In Search of a Common Paradise, as you walk through the Royal Botanic GardensSlow Dance by Rainbow RowellGrief is for People by Sloane Crosley Topdog/Underdog on at MTC til 21 SeptemberAstor Theatre: 45th anniversary of the Muppet Movie on Sunday 8 SeptemberTower 28 SOS LipSoftie Lip Rescue treatment Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's See Also, Kate and Brodie are collecting themselves post-MIFF. Jinxy is a little snail, sans memoir, and BL is similarly on the hunt for a new shell to call home.They debrief on the movies they loved, the people they met and the iconic nistas of fashion they've been interviewing. Jinxy hosted an on-stage talk with Hollywood costume designer Deborah L. Scott and BL interviewed Charli XCX for the cover of Vogue Australia's September issue. Then we discuss the recent investigation into the troubling "boys' club" at Swillhouse and the restaurant group's history of perpetuating harmful workplace practices, as reported in the Sydney Morning Herald. If this isn't something you're in a place to listen to, please skip ahead from 24:35 to 43:55.Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear the upcoming Q&A eps.Also: Alsos!See AlsosSMH/Good Food's investigation: Sex, sleaze and hospitalityWomen in hospitalityAlso AlsosSupernormal's Piñata cocktailPunter's Club – come see BL DJ on Sep 6 at 10pm!HAA bath salts from CIBI Violette FR Yeux Paint Twinkling in Scarabee d'OrSigrid Nunez's book What Are You Going Through from 2020Not All Diamonds and Rosé by Dave Quinn, audiobook read by Amy Phillips Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this first Q&A episode, Kate and Brodie answer pressing (and mildly stressful) questions about iconic looks and beloved books, where you should move, how they met, where to dine solo, how to be chic at the footy, and what breakfast to order in Melbourne. Bisou! Mwah!To listen to the full version of this bonus episode, support See Also on Patreon!For just $5 USD / $8.50 AUD a month, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays. No days off!Weekly posts in your email with all the episode links & show notesAccess to special Q&A episodes (like this one!) & occasional bonus episodesFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhJoin the Hogg Hive at patreon.com/seealso Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the Trap by M Night Shyamalan podcast! Kate and Brodie have been to see English, a new play at MTC, a new RHONY teaser is out featuring the real-life gay friend of Jenna Lyons, Jinxy is having her "ball dropping down a la All Fours by Miranda July" birthday and is saving the article about Katherine Hepburn being an awful neighbour, she's celebrating in a very Kate Culture way – watching short films about architecture at a Robin Boyd-designed house, let us podcast from SUR LA MER in St Kilda!!!! Both of us are doom-prepping for a fortnight of film festival madness in the kitchen. Neither of us will bring a thermos of soup into the cinema but only one of us is making MUFF SOUP. BL has started following a new TikTok chef who's been cooking in Liz Lange's Hamptons house aka THE GREY GARDENS HOUSE. The kid from Presumed Innocent looks like the girl from Hereditary.Then we recollect our night watching the first session of M Night Shyamalan's Trap at Thornbury Picture House. Incredible, amazing, loved every second. We won't spoil the end, but we do dig into the plot points, most of which are the setup and concept of the story, okay? We each shout out our Hayley Mills faves: Kate's is Whistle Down the Wind and Brodie's is The Parent Trap IV: Hawaiian Honeymoon. All the greats are here: Alison Pill! Kid Cudi! New nepo baby pop star (?) Saleka Shyamalan! And of course: Millennial Gay Root Josh Hartnett.Listen to The Saturday Quiz podcast this week to hear us not know about geography or actors (oops!!). The next two weeks we'll only be posting for the Hogg Hive on Patreon.Also: Alsos!Also AlsosThe Male Gays – Be Kind 7"Follow @cecilia.tolone on socials / find recipes on ceciliatolone.comLinda Marigliano's Tough Love podcast episode: Naomi Shimada: Anything Can HappenMadame Web is streaming on Binge now (praise be)Follow @nyplpicturecollection on InstagramElla Baxter's new novel Woo Woo Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's See Also, Brodie has a correction and a retraction and the Kate Jinx media blitz continues. BL's been hosting an elaborate Christmas in July (any excuse for ham) and Kate's been going Locked Bag Aunty mode.They coincidentally watched Twister (singular) at the same time and NEED to podcast live from Hoyts D-BOX. Brodie reports back from the long night at the movies watching Kinds of Kindness and they go deep on the tradwife expose setting TikTok alight.Follow us at @seealsopodcast and join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear the upcoming Q&A eps.Also: Alsos!See AlsosKate's feature on her style in SMH… and her reviews of I Saw the TV Glow and Under the Bridge in the MonthlyShaad D'Souza on How Long GoneMeet the queen of the ‘trad wives' (and her eight children)Also AlsosCremate London incensePresumed InnocentReissue of "Souvenirs" by Emahoy Tsegué-Maryam GuèbrouHagen's OrganicsCoriander Seed Body Cleanser by Aesop Soft Services Carea Cream Daily Softening Lotion Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's See Also, Kate's been eating at a southside fave and Brodie gives a debrief of a newly refurb'ed pub in the north. Kate saw whales and got split up on a flight – who's the heir and who's the spare? And they discuss Shannen Doherty's list of people banned from her funeral, having enemies and caring what people think.Then, they trade mini-reviews of some things they've watched recently: Longlegs, Lady in the Lake, A Quiet Place Day One, Renegade Nell, Maxxxine, The Fall Guy, Shutter Island, and that clip of Lisa Kudrow saying it's time for The Comeback to come back. Valerie Cherish on Hot Ones and How Long Gone when??Last chance to send your Q&A submissions to our DMs @seealsopodcast – join the Hogg Hive on Patreon to hear the upcoming Q&A eps.Also: Alsos!See AlsosBroadsheet's Creative Couples articleFashion Journal "How I Got Here: Melbourne International Film Festival's programmer on the value of a non-linear career path"Also AlsosJoni & CoBuilders Arms' Tuesday chicken nightRebel Girl by Kathleen HannaPleasant State cleaning productsFood & Film at MIFF Stella Donnelly is doing a residency on Wednesday nights in August at Merri Creek Tavern Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's See Also, Kate and Brodie pay tribute to two queens of our screens, Shannen Doherty and Shelley Duvall, before digging in to The Bear's frustrating third season. Then! The long-awaited debrief on this year's MIFF program. BL shares what made her shortlist, Jinxy adds to it with more reccs from her many months of viewing. Find some lists on our Instagram @seealsopodcast, hop in the DMs to request a bespoke recc from Kate, or join the Hogg Hive on Patreon for a complete list of every film we mention in this ep. (Not enough space here to list them all, sorry!)Also: Alsos!See AlsosExplore the two strands Jinxy curated in this year's program: Yvonne Rainer: Autobiographical Fictions and Iranian New Wave: 1962 – 79For Grace – doc on Ever chef Curtis Duffy opening his previous restaurant, GraceLee Tran Lam's piece on the Australian cookbooks in The BearBL is hosting the Consuming Culture at MIFF again this year – grab a ticket! Explore the whole MIFF Talks program Jinxy pulled togetherFOTP Alexei is hosting trivia nights at the festival this year tooAlso AlsosPidapipo's seasonal hot chocolateFriday Afternoon Club: A Family Memoir by Griffin DunneNew Kim Deal song, Coast, recorded by the late Steve Albini. Girlboss episode of The Dilemma podcast, by Gina RushtonFantasmas on Binge in Australia, a perfect show from Julio Torres (also come see Problemista at MIFF)I'm Tired of Using An App For Everything by Mark Hill on Slate Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

There's an extended version of this episode tucked behind the paywall this week! To listen to a longer (and ad-free) chat, join the Hogg Hive on Patreon.We're taking Qs from you for a future episode! DM us at @seealsopodcast to have your Q A'd.This week, Kate and Brodie are in the realms of magic. Namely, ordering magic coffees, watching Practical Magic and experiencing The Power of Three. We do a quick check-in on The Bear season 3 – full chat coming next week! – and then report back on two recent watches: Under The Bridge (excellent!) and Industry (not!).Then we duck behind the paywall to step out how we're going on our Q3 goals and aspirations. Dream big, baby!See AlsoCargo Crew sent us their aprons and Yes Chef hats – thank you!Buy a pillow head scarf like Syd wore in season 2 from Etsy seller AnotherHatBagAlso AlsosJinxy's Winter Also playlist is on Spotify and Apple MusicSerendib all you can eat Sri Lankan buffetKabocha French Lentil Soup recipeOpen House Melbourne tours of Wildwood House by Robin Boyd + the Cairo flatsEvenings with Eric Rohmer at Golden AgeSave the date for Brodie's A Plus market stall – 4 August at Coburg Town Hall 10am-3pm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're re-releasing our This Is My Life episode after our sold out screenings of the film in Melbourne earlier this week. (Thank you all for coming!) It's a real trip down memory line, taking us back to episode 20 of the pod, to 2022, to the coining of the term POODLE EPISODE!!Here's what we wrote about it then:This week, Kate and Brodie are talking about The Girls™️: Nora, Meg, Samantha and Gabby. It's our first Toy Poodle Episode (you'll see why) and it's all about Nora Ephron's 1992 directorial debut, This is My Life. There might not be Also Alsos this week, but don't worry, there's still plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.Starring Julie "literal Marge Simpson" Kavner as hopeful stand-up comic Dottie Ingils, and Samantha Mathis and Gabby Hoffman as her daughters Erica and Opel, This is My Life is about everything that matters: mums! daughters! sisters! ambition! Carrie Fisher!Co-written by Nora and her sister Delia, the film was adapted from Meg Wolitzer's novel This is Your Life. As a special treat for us and you, Meg was kind enough to write in to See Also with her memories of having her book adapted by Nora.See AlsosSamantha Mathis on River Phoenix and her career revivalThe Chelsea Hotel Had Its Own EloiseSeeing Nora EverywhereGirl Talk: Lena Dunham on Her Brooklyn Movie SeriesSam Cohn's obituaryOne of Jinxy's "everything is material" momentsMeg Wolitzer on What Happens When a Book's Character Comes to LifeWatch AlsoHacksMuppets Take ManhattanThe Hairy Bird (aka Strike! aka All I Wanna Do)The WifeEverything is CopyPump up The VolumeThe Thing Called LoveC'mon C'mon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Don't forget: we're hosting two screenings of Nora Ephron's 1992 directorial debut, This is My Life, at Thornbury Picture House on June 25. That's next week! Tickets are on sale now and going fast.Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to support the podcast.This week, Kate and Brodie go deep on Miranda July's new novel, All Fours. BUT NOW WE SAID IT. (Sorry to Camille Grammer, who Kate realised actually said that long after the mics switched off. She really said that.) We cover the plot, the perimenopause of it all, how it queers traditional relationship dynamics, the polyp, how to recommend Miranda July to other people, Kate's experience of embroidering and carving next to her, and Give Us Back The Stuff We Loaned To You Ages Ago!!!!See Also listeners in Melbourne can get 20% off their purchase of All Fours at My Local Bookshop. Simply enter the code SEEALSO20 at checkout, select Click and Collect, and pop in to Brunswick Street Bookstore, Avoca Hill Bookstore or Coventry Bookstore to pick it up. If you're shopping IRL, just mention the podcast at the checkout to claim your discount. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're hosting two screenings of Nora Ephron's 1992 directorial debut, This is My Life, at Thornbury Picture House on June 25. Tickets are on sale now!Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to support the podcast!This week, Kate has shared air with Austin Butler, has popped into Lucky Kwong one last time, and is furious at HBO Max for teasing the majick community with a fakeout Practical Magic announcement. Brodie has discovered she loves lasers, has been listening to BRAT and and invites about boutique hotels – associated with Girlbosses or otherwise – to invite us to stay and pod. We LOVE sleep!!Together, we discuss the MIFF First Glance announcement and our trip into the city to see The First Bad Man, a book club based on the book by Miranda July.Speaking of! Next week we're going to be discussing Miranda July's new book All Fours. We're obsessed. If you're yet to buy a copy, we've got a special deal for you :)See Also listeners in Melbourne can get 20% off their purchase of All Fours at My Local Bookshop. Simply enter the code SEEALSO20 at checkout, select Click and Collect, and pop in to Brunswick Street Bookstore, Avoca Hill Bookstore or Coventry Bookstore to pick it up. If you're shopping IRL, just mention the podcast at the checkout to claim your discount.Also AlsosThe Garden Against Time by Olivia LaingMuli Express oyster barKylie Kwong's stir-fried Australian native greens with garlic 'Deep Forest' incense (and companion cassette) by Agaric Fly x Butter SessionsWords and Music, a reissue/collection of music by Margo Guryan Shulz Dairy 'milk in glass' program Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're hosting two screenings of Nora Ephron's 1992 directorial debut, This is My Life, at Thornbury Picture House on June 25. Tickets are on sale now!Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to support the podcast!This week, Kate is catching up on sleep and thinking about whether slowness can save us. Brodie is railing against the culture of lining up for sandwiches and frozen yoghurt. Then: a live unboxing! Jinxy brought BL a cute gift back from LA!Jinxy has some huge reccs for Sydney Film Festival, and will be seeing Our Austin Butler IRL. SPEAKING OF: We simply need to discuss THE Baz Lurhmann TikTok video.Then, a debrief on season 3 of Hacks, season 2 of Loot and Palm Royale. RT does NOT equal endorsement, turns out. Justice for Ricky Martin, though.See AlsosKate's review of ‘Menus-Plaisirs' and ‘La Cocina' in The MonthlyCan Slowness Save Us?The Baz Lurhmann TikTok videoBaz @ Harry StylesEveryone in This TV Show Should Be SmokingAlso AlsosKate's 10 tips for films at SFF (that are not sold out at the time of recording) are: Dahomey, A Different Man, Eephus, Grand Tour, Menu Plaisirs–Trois Gros, the Substance, Problemista, Sasquatch Sunset, The Substance, PepeMelbourne Out Loud: life through the lens of Rennie Ellis, on at State Library Victoria til JanuaryEvery Outfit is coming to Melbourne, Sydney, Perth, Brisbane, Auckland in DecemberBrodie's two new fave true crime pods: Once Upon a Time in Nashville + Trial By Water Tap is Fine! newsletter by Khushbu ShahReading Room gallery + Back Room shop on High St in Northcote Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join the Hogg Hive on Patreon for ad-free episodes every week, and some upcoming bonus episodes.Kate's back from Cannes! She and BL catch up on the last films of the festival and her journey in the Tom Crui-niverse. BL went to see Nan Goldin's The Ballad of Sexual Dependency in Ballarat and is very excited to tell you about the two special editions of the mX she guest-edited for RISING this year!This week, Brodie is joined by Lucia Aniello for a chat about Hacks, a recent visit to Schwartz and Sandy's, the Tom Cruise Coconut Cake and some incredible recommendations. Lucia is the co-creator, -writer, -producer, -director and showrunner of Hacks, along with Paul W. Downs and Jen Statsky. She was a director on Broad City and the Netflix reboot of The Babysitters Club (vale queen!!!!!), and she and Paul co-wrote and -directed the film Rough Night and the webseries Time-Traveling Bong, which BL recommended way back in episode 8!See AlsoAn interview with Hacks' costume designerLucia and Paul on Talk EasyReal Housewives of South BostonAlso AlsosLucia recommends: Mary and George, On Writing by Stephen King, buying a pair of socks when you're visiting a new placeBrodie recommends: the fresh-squeezed OJ from Northcote IGA, Renee Gracie: Fireproof on Stan(nes), The Uncoupling by Meg Wolitzer (and the related story, ‘Mitzvah Night Is CANCELLED' Inside the sex strike that has infuriated husbands and shaken the ultra-Orthodox world by Talia Lavin in the Cut)Kate recommends: Officine Universelle Buly bath salts, 'How 3M Discovered, Then Concealed, the Dangers of Forever Chemicals' by Sharon Lerner, the AirFly Pro Deluxe Bluetooth Transmittor. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A reminder that you can support See Also on Patreon!As a member of the Hogg Hive, you'll get:Ad-free versions of every See AlsoA minimum of 6 extra ad-free episodes of See Also every year, including over the holidays and next weekFurther discounted codes for live showsOur eternal love, duhSee Also is 100! But you'd never tell because we moisturise. Thank you for listening to and enjoying the pod – it's a pleasure to bring you silly-smart conversations every week.Also celebrating their birthdays this week are Sofia Coppola – who turned 53 on Tuesday – and her debut feature The Virgin Suicides, which came out 25 years ago. To mark two of these three occasions (guess which), Kate and Brodie go deep on the Lisbon sisters and the boys who loved them.Even if you're seen the film a million times, it holds up to a re-watch – trust us.We cover the Eugenides BTS cynicism, Hartnett at his prime, Trip's gay dad(s), the time Brodie met Kathleen Turner, memory's flimsy logic and the time Kate first tried Pepsi Max, the comedy Sofia never gets credit for and the image-making she's so skilled at, the boys who'll always remember and the girls who were never really theirs/there.See Alsos“The Virgin Suicides” Still Holds the Mysteries of Adolescence by Emma Cline“They Hadn't Heard Us Calling” by Megan AbbottWhy I'm obsessed with this dark, dreamy novel" by Dizz TateSofia Coppola's Bedrooms by Katie McDonoughScores on Screen. Clouds Up: Air and the Soundtrack of "The Virgin Suicides" by Clare Nina NorelliJosh Hartnett on THE kissDan Levy's story of visiting the set Kiki in Interview in 2000Sofia Coppola x Tavi Gevinson in RookieTavi Gevinson on The Virgin Suicides in NPR in 2012Bill Owens book 'Suburbia'Idea LTDAir will play Moon Safari at the Sydney Opera House for VIVID Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Pop over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso and sign up to the Hogg Hive to hear an extended version of this week's episode, featuring our off-the-cuff Met Gala reactions.This episode opens with a live review of the Hailey Bieber smoothie from Erewhon. Jinxy's sipping her way across LA, and fills us in on brunch at Canter's, an iconic but annoying day out with Angelyne at the Pleasure Chest, and an enviable visit to Noodle Stories. She's hit the Vanderpump Triangle in WeHo – but only to Bottega Louie, not TomTom (yet).BL goes deep on a night with Niall Horan and a life-changing day at SPUDFEST in Trentham. Is she the spudman after all?Then it's time for a discussion of our favourite Highsmith menacing gay, Tom Ripley, and the latest Netflix iteration of the guy who "likes" "girls", from creator/writer Steve Zaillan.See AlsosThe Garden Against Time by Olivia LaingThe American Friend (1977) by Wim WendersThe Night OfAlso AlsosHere in the Pitch by Jessica PrattHacks season 3 (on Stan in Australia)Ed Ruscha / Now Then retrospective at LACMASoft Services Software UpdateVegethreads Organic classic TArchive No. 1 by Hattie Stewart (with an intro by Brodie!) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Join the Hogg Hive on Patreon for ad-free episodes every week, and some upcoming bonus episodes.This week, Kate and Brodie participate in their pre-scheduled catch-up time – you know how friends do that?Kate's in LA and packed badly, watched 3 Body Problem, attempted to go to Schwartz and Sandy's, keeps seeing Cybertrucks, visited the Indigo Girls-themed bathroom at Rubyfruit and caught up on Mission Impossible on the plane. BL has to do a quick post-season recap of Vanderpump Rules, had a bit of an annoying trip to Sydney, devolves into a complaint about circus performers in hotels, watched an entire movie on free-to-air TV and experienced a very silly case of mistaken identity at France-Soir.If you're in LA, come see Zoe's show Every Single Thing in My Whole Entire Life at UCB on Fairfax 6 May as part of Netflix is a Joke festival.See AlsoIngrid Goes WestKajillionaireThe First Bad Man a book club based on a novel by Miranda JulyCole Escola on StraightiolabThe Sydney airport trainAlso AlsosHB Achive's Poet shirtAnother Slice by Nat PaullCarrot, Fennel and Wild Rice SoupD'Arcy'Carden's podcast WikiholeViolette Bisou Balm FR in Amour Fou from Mecca Inner Studio Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Kate and Brodie debrief on a bodybuilding competition (where is a delt?), Dopesick (what even is it?), Kate didn't DJ a sex party but did go to The Almighty Sometimes at MTC, Brodie tries to explain who Jerrod Carmichael is and wrote the latest Good Weekend cover story on Angourie Rice.Then, we discuss the disgraceful new Amy Winehouse biopic Back to Black, a debrief on the massive, overwhelming and excellent Alex Garland film Civil War.Skip from 35:08 – 55:43 for Civil War spoilers.See AlsoAmy (2015) by Asif KapadiaMark Ronson on working with Amy WinehouseNew Yorker Critics at Large episode on Civil WarKirsten Dunst in VarietyKirsten Dunst on choosing roles with female directors Men (2022)Power of the Dog (2021)Also AlsosHate Read, anonymous essays in Deez LinksSteve! on Apple TV+Robe 3–in-1: Clean & Finish haircareCosRX Good Morning Low-pH Gel CleanserAutumn Also playlist Get your flu and booster vaxx!! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was only a matter of time.In this re-release of a classic Poodle episode, Kate and Brodie come together to discuss Girlfriends, Claudia Weill's directorial debut from 1978, and an absolutely perfect film. Co-written by Vicki Polon, it starts Melanie Mayron as Susan Weinblatt, who has a perfect face and spends her days shooting bar mitzvahs and waiting for her big, artistic break in late-'70s New York City. When her best friend and roommate, Anne (Anita Skinner), a writer, gets married and moves out of their apartment, Susan searches for ways to repair her loneliness. She meets Eric (a hunky young Christopher Guest), grows close to Rabbi Aaron Gold (Eli Wallach), brings home a hitchhiker named Ceil (Amy Wright) and tries to bridge the distance by spending time upstate with Anne and her husband, Martin (Bob Balaban). A film about friendship, making art and platonic love, Girlfriends is so much more than the sum of its parts and a tidy plot summary. Seek it out as soon as you can!See AlsosBL's piece in the GuardianStanley Kubrick interviewTurner Classic Movies intro to GirlfriendsClaudia Weill speaking about Girlfriends at BAM, BFI and UCLA; on Criterion and Bobbie Wygant.Millie De Chirico's podcast I Saw What You Did with Danielle HendersonWatch AlsoJoyce at 34 (See Also for us!!)It's My TurnCrossing Delancey Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Head on over to Patreon.com/SeeAlso to join the Hogg Hive for an ad-free, extended version of this episode!This week, Brodie is joined by Isobel Beech, the author of a true See Also FAVE book Sunbathing, to discuss the work of another a fellow auteur, Jennifer Lopez. Issy is trying to start a movement, and spread the word about JLo's "feature film" This Is Me … Now and its companion making-of documentary The Greatest Love Story Never Told. So consider this episode activism.We discuss the way she handles mud, her obsession with "The Block", how insuring your butt was 2000s culture, the "Zodiacal Council", and everyone dressing like they're extras on Younger. Brodie pitches a Freaky Friday reboot with her and JLo, and Issy declares, "There's nothing that JLo does that can't be done by someone else" … except this movie!!!See AlsoBuy a copy of SunbathingPop Stars vs the attention economyWesley Morris on This Is Me … NowAlso AlsosSinus irrigationBeautician and the BeastReality DayAmy Odell's newsletter Back RowMariah Carey's 2018 album CautionGet Right, JLo's 2001 single Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Get your tickets for our encore screening of GIRLFRIENDS now!Right in with RHONY news: they're all back, minus Cass Bird. BL had an aborted trip to Sircuit, visited country Victoria again and tries to explain a techno event collab slash dinner that gets Very Melbourne. And Jinxy spent Easter going The Most Sydney: on a boat. Also: Girls 5Eva is Kate's favourite band.Go see Zoe Coombs Marr's show Every Single Thing in My Whole Entire Life.Then, we discuss the end (?) of the TradWife, and follow its threads into "DIML" content, the flattening of a life for clicks and what happens when all an audience can wonder about it is "where'd you get it?" We talk about hiding our content, out-of-pocket DMs and why subscribing for specific content is good, actually?Speaking of: Members of the Hogg Hive get a bonus segment this week, recapping how we went with our plans for Q1.Join to hear it + every episode, ad-free!See AlsoPalm Royale cocktail guideThe Rise and Fall of the Trad Wife by Sophie ElmhirstAlison Roman's newsletter entry on "recommendation culture"Also AlsosExpatsCeremonia Guava Rescue SprayJessica Pratt's mix for NTS: RHYTHM ON THE WESTMatéo sodaRead your own libraryWeTransfer presents: The Day I Met Bjork. Photographs by Spike JonzeFind us on Instagram @seealsopodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Kate and Brodie have been tootin' around regional Victoria. Jinxy gives a scene report of the local weirdo's bazaar in Chewton, and BL recaps her spending at the Alba Hot Springs restaurant. A quick Top Chef (show, not dog) update, recommendation for the rom-com Upgraded and a(nother) discussion of the wild decisions that went into the film Anyone But You.Then: biceps up. It's LOVE LIES BLEEDING TIME! To avoid spoilers, skip from 24:28 – 54:22We discuss the audience reaction, the pulpy energy, the merch (and missed opportunities), the macho sluts, Anna Baryshnikov comedy genius, Jenna Malone perfect casting, the better Franco brother, Ed Harris's hair. And Brodie, shockingly, explains the plot of Stepmom to Kate.See AlsoLove Lies Bleeding playlistSaint Maud (2019) is streaming on SBS on Demand and you can rent it from Apple TV, YouTube etcetKristen Stewart Uncensored: ‘I Want to Do the Gayest Thing You've Ever Seen in Your Life' in Rolling StoneGerber/Hart Library & Archives on InstagramPumping Iron II: The Women (1985) docAli Kazma's video art piece Bodybuilding (2013)Katy O'Brian interview in She's A BeastAlso AlsosEar Alchemy by Sarah and SebastianThe Theatre of War - Stanislava Pinchuk – on at ACMI til 9 JunePerfect Days by Wim Wenders is out now in cinemasCarlton Gardens Tennis ClubShe's on the Money podcastSamin Nosrat on Modern Love podcastFind us on Instagram @seealsopodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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