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Brad and Lesley recap her conversation with franchise expert Jon Ostenson, unpacking how non-food franchising helps risk-averse entrepreneurs own a business without reinventing the wheel. They highlight funding paths, corporate support, and why following the playbook matters. You will hear practical ways to start while keeping your day job and how Jon's services are paid by franchisors, not you.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:When to treat Reformer footwork differently from leg press.How franchise ownership works even if you keep your day job.Why matching your strengths to the right franchise matters.Why matching your strengths to the right franchise matters.Common mistakes franchisees make when they don't follow the playbook.The mindset shifts around seeing $50K as possible, not impossible.Episode References/Links:Indivisible Movement - https://indivisible.orgBook: She Caused A Riot by Hannah Jewell - https://a.co/d/cGhs5UYP.O.T. 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How are they free, you ask, because he sees what you're trying to do. Then he goes to the franchise, the parent company, and he says, pay me, and I'll help these guys succeed doing your franchise. Pretty brilliant. I was like, wow, that's amazing.Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the supporting convo I had with Jon Ostenson in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now, go back and listen to that one, and then come back and join us, or listen to this one, and then you can decide if you want to listen that one. I think it's great. Jon has a book. It's really wonderful. It's a very niche topic. It's a nerdy topic. It's one I wanted to have because I don't think entrepreneurs, I'm like, making your own idea is for everybody, but I do think everybody deserves to have the wealth and agency that they want to have in this world and make what they want to make. So I'm excited about it. Brad Crowell 1:30  Well, I thought I really liked, I really liked the conversation. I was very I mean, especially for me, because I am very entrepreneurial, but I appreciated the back and forth. So, yeah, I, I think that it was very revealing. Lesley Logan 1:51  Are you saying it was a great interview? Did I do a good job? Brad Crowell 1:51  I'm saying it was a great interview. Not only that, but I think the information that he's sharing is shocking. He's super smart dude, and I thought, I thought it was very revealing for someone who might be hoping, wishing they could own a business. This was very empowering, because it, it created hope I think. So, yeah, great. Lesley Logan 2:17  I well, you'll, you guys, stay tuned. You'll hear what we're talking about in a second. Today is September 11th, 2025 and it's Patriot Day, which gives us all time to reflect on the devastating terror attacks that took 3000 lives. We commemorate those who we lost, and give thanks to the brave responders who put their lives on the line. Take a moment today to consider what we stand for as a nation, how we can work together to make the world a better place for all. It's a hard day. Brad Crowell 2:39  Yeah, I mean.Lesley Logan 2:40  Especially with 20, with 25 years to reflect on what fucking lies we're told afterwards, and then how we treat the first responders and how fucking hard it was to get their medical bills paid because they're dying from cancer right now. Like.Brad Crowell 2:56  Yeah, it's like, it's like a story that keeps repeating itself where something devastating happens that is wrong and tragic. People die and then motherfuckers in office take advantage of the public's emotional state, and they use it to go do some wrong shit. Lesley Logan 3:18  Go, so seriously, go watch the movie Vice. I happen to be really lucky to be teaching Christian Bale's wife at the time that he was filming that. And so it was a really interesting time, because, like, he was becoming Dick Cheney, which, like, it is a, I mean, of course, he won an, I think he won a bunch of awards for that. And he literally thanked Satan for the inspiration. Brad Crowell 3:41  Yes, he did. Lesley Logan 3:37  And I remember, I remember my client. I remember my client was, my client was just like, I fucking told him not to do that, or something like that. And so anyways, but go watch it, because it, while it's not historical, it is pretty fucking accurate about like, how rich Cheney and these bitches got after doing what they did and using, using the heartbreak, and what people fought with patriotism to go make these fucking wars, and then we did a bunch of bullshit, and then we ruined places. And it just pisses me off, because. Brad Crowell 4:04  Over, over, lies. Lesley Logan 4:09  Lies and so. And also, if you don't believe in September 11th being what it was like, I don't know why you're here, but like, I, I just really.Brad Crowell 4:18  Well, it was, I mean, it was a terrorist attack, no question. But what we did after it, how the public was manipulated, to then go to war for 20 years after, based on literal lies, you know.Lesley Logan 4:30  Yeah, it's, I it's hard because, like, okay, reflecting on what we consider as a nation today, I think, as an I think the people running our nation today reflect something I would never want to be a patriot of.Brad Crowell 4:42  Yeah, and that that's, that's the thing that really frustrates me as a person who, when you read the definition of patriot, I want to be that. That is absolutely, I mean, I consider myself a patriot. But also there's this, there's this frustrating association with angry white men, usually, who don't give a shit about people. And there's so much fear of others associated with it. And there's this ego that's associated with it that.Lesley Logan 5:17  It's, it's so it's so fragile. What they're like, they're thinking is so they are. They're such fragile people. Because they're just like, they're the way that they think, that they're showing strength. And we're like, protesting, they're like, like, making sure that we see the middle finger, and like, just like, and it's like, I have never driven in my entire life, of driving past something, we're talking about this with the protest where I disagree. Brad Crowell 5:39  We used to live by protests all the time, where we lived in L.A., we're literally next to the federal building, so it was like, every weekend, forever.Lesley Logan 5:45  Every weekend, it was like, who's protesting today? And like, there were times I was like, oh, I wonder why. It made me get curious as to, like, what is going on here. It was very fascinating. And it was like, what the fuck like, but I never was like, here's my middle finger to you. It's like, just, you know, move along. Move right along. The fact that you have to make sure I see your face in your lifted stupid truck while you flip me off, it makes you and that makes you feel good. You're like, yeah, I did it to them. I did it like, we were in Idaho, and there was a big ass sign in this guy's house. I was walking by the lake, and it was like, make liberals cry again, and it's like, oh, you think I'm crying. I'm pissed off. Like the tears of the tears are of what we are losing, of course, but like, no, I'm pissed off. James Baldwin, I want to, I want to make sure everyone hears this quote, because I think it's really beautiful, and I think it's this is what being a patriot is. I love America more than any other country in the world, and exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. And I think that, like, this country has so many shortcomings, and no country is perfect. Like, I was listening to Sophia Bush on a podcast recently, and she's like, like, I'm not gonna move because, like, I love this place. I'm gonna fight for her. And so, like, if you moved and whatever, like, I have no judgments for that, but if you're here, like, you have to fight, because we're losing rights. We're losing rights. And it really pisses me off, because in the time of my mother being an adult and married woman, she could not get a credit card until, like, the 80s, right? Like, like, I if you're listening to this and you're just like, la, la, la, I just want to hear about how to be till I see it. Ladies, you are going to lose your ability to have your own bank account. You're gonna lose your ability to have your own vote. And if you think it's not going to happen because, oh, it's not going to happen. It's they want it to happen. And the right people are in power. And I'm tired of being told that Project 2025 is bullshit. It is happening right now. Lesley Logan 5:46  They're more than 50% of the way through completing Project 2025.Lesley Logan 5:48  In the time we're recording this, seven months. Brad Crowell 7:40  Yeah, seven months. And, I mean, you know, if you go through and you actually read the things that are in that platform, they they do want to make single family voting, which is literally taking away the white the rights of women, because they would consider the man the head of the household. Lesley Logan 8:02  And if you think, oh, I'm not married yeah your brother get to vote for you. I don't have a brother, your uncle get to vote for you. Like they will find a man if and when this type of life existed, they would find someone in the government to become your vote. You don't get there's no getting out of this. You don't get one.Brad Crowell 8:17  Yeah, and, and, and the people in power are Tweeting about that stuff, literally right now, right like they're they're putting it out there. They're trying to normalize the idea so that when they go and try to do it, it doesn't seem like it's as big of a deal as it actually fucking is. Lesley Logan 8:32  So you know what I think patriotism is right now, babe, it is, find a protest. I know you're busy. I know you have fucked tons, going on. We are, too. Find one. Go for an hour. Go yell. Go meet friends. Go meet people who are different than you. It's, these protests people, some people are fighting for their their gay marriages to still exist. Some people are fighting further to not be war. Some people are fighting for God. Some people are fighting to like for the Epstein list. I don't care what gets you out there, but like you think that this, that what they're gonna do is not gonna affect your life, it is. It is. Brad Crowell 8:55  Yeah, go, go check out individual, indivisible.org, for a local, you know, event, or how you can get involved near you. So, you know, we're gonna move on, and we're gonna actually. Lesley Logan 9:11  Well, people like this, Brad, we've been told, hi, Vicky.Brad Crowell 9:14  I think it's so important y'all and and it's like this, I know that we this isn't a podcast about politics, but it is. Lesley Logan 9:22  But also, but also. Brad Crowell 9:23  Being it until you see it is a pod, it is about like politics, and it is a part of every single element of our life, even if you have the perfect life, quote, unquote, it's because of politics that you are able to live the way that you live. And what's happening right now is such fast, dramatic change in our countries. Like, historically, there's so much change happening so quickly there, that when we wake up, you know, in even six months from now, it's going to be like, there we are at the brink of things. Lesley Logan 9:53  I don't even know how we're going to make it to the midterms. That's my fear. That's my fear, and I put it out right now, but I will just say, even if you're like, less. I just want a homestead. I want to be like tradwife. The fact that you get to choose that is because of politics. So that is fine if that's what you want to choose to do. But do not think that everybody wants to do that and that that should be the choice for everybody. So I think that like that is why we have to get involved. And if you are a woman, you are political. Your existence in any room is political has been and if you really want to get fired up, go read the book, She Caused A Riot. Go look at history. Like fucking Socrates, his teacher was a woman. Did you know that? The reason you don't know that is because politics, they didn't want you to know that there was leaders in this world.Brad Crowell 10:39  Politics and religion. Lesley Logan 10:39  Fuck that. Anyways. Brad Crowell 10:39  Frustrating. Lesley Logan 10:39  I'm pissed off, but we're currently in the U.K. We're in the U.K. and then when we get home, well, we're home for a couple of weeks, and we gotta see my best friends and come visit, and then we're gonna go to Chicagoland for Pilates On Tour with Balanced Body. I'm doing the Joe's Gyms there. That's in Burr Ridge. If there's any spots left, you should snag one, because it's super, super fun, and we have a huge party coming with all of our agency eLevate OPC members, then we're gonna be in Cambodia. That's also in October. You can still join like you can join last minute. Guess what? Flight planes will sell a seat as long as there is one. So you can get the fuck out of town and retreat a little bit and be in a different world and get some empathy for what it's like to live in different places.Brad Crowell 11:21  Yeah, and experience a different culture and see that not everybody.Lesley Logan 11:24  If you are worried. Sorry, I cut you off. If you're worried about being an American in a different country, let me tell you, they see what's happening right now, and they are, in Cambodia, they are sad for us. They are scared for us. They know that they know where we're headed, and they're sad for us.Brad Crowell 11:25  Yeah, I was just gonna say with our experience recently about trying to cross borders and getting stuck and turned around and not being able to, it wasn't the it wasn't the attendees of the events that we were not able to attend who were angry with us. It was the border guard who was, you know, unfortunately, misinformed and, you know, and angry. And he's angry because the border guards of our country were turning away people for no reason. So he could just, that's the only power he had, was to turn away, you know, Americans for no reason. And we just kind of got caught up in that. So there's a lot of, there is a lot of frustration, but it's not from the people, right, in this country, it's like, you know? So, so I would say, you know, yeah, it did feel a little bit stressful to you know, as we were approaching, once we got there and started talking to them, it became clear that that there was just silly reasons being turned away but, but even in that, like the you know, the guy wasn't like, he wasn't an asshole about it. So, but I it was really frustrating. If you're worried about something like that, when you come to a place like Cambodia, you apply for your visa ahead of time. You will know before you arrive if they're going to turn you around, because you'll have the right paperwork.Lesley Logan 13:06  And also you're we're all going as tourists. The Canadian thing, we were going into work. Brad Crowell 13:11  That's true. Lesley Logan 13:11  And that was it, we'll have to do a whole episode on it, because it's a longer, longer conversation. That being said, you go to. Brad Crowell 13:18  But as a tourist, they want a tourist. They want that because. Lesley Logan 13:21  That's how they're that's literally how their country survives. Brad Crowell 13:24  Yep, it's how well, it's how the city that we're going to, that's how the economy there survives, from tourism. So, you know, and they are very aware of that, so. Lesley Logan 13:32  Yes, they want us there. They're so welcoming, they're so kind, and you can see what it's like to be living in a different part of this world. I think that's so important. I think one of the biggest reasons why people in this, in the U.S., are so fucking scared of people of a different color is because they've never, they've never gone and seen how they live. Yeah, you know, go get worldly. You will have more empathy, crowsnestretreats.com. After we leave Cambodia, we're going to be in Singapore. We're going to teach at a beautiful studio there, and then we're gonna see the Botanical Gardens. And then we're home. We're home for the whole month of November. Oh my God, no, Brad, I'm not going camping anywhere. We're home for the whole month of November. Brad Crowell 14:10  But my parents are coming. We're gonna go camp. Lesley Logan 14:12  No, we're, that is not why they're coming to visit us. Help make an, help you with the roof or something. And then October, we're gonna be on our winter tour. And if you want to make sure you hear about that first, go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events, because our people on our waitlist will get the access to the tickets first. And the winter tour does have cities that sell out in 24 hours. Okay, we have to get to our interview, but we do have an audience question. So Brad, go for it.Brad Crowell 14:37  Yes. Okay. DMK asks on Instagram, hey Lesley, my footwork question is this, what cue or cues do you like to use during footwork? I'm sorry, if footwork students, very confused. They made a mistake on the word here.Lesley Logan 14:42  What cues do you like to use, if during footwork, students are using it like a leg press? Brad Crowell 14:56  Oh, sorry. Okay. Lesley Logan 14:57  Yeah, thank you. Brad Crowell 14:59  Well, I just read that wrong. That's all.Lesley Logan 15:00  It's okay, it's all good. So.Brad Crowell 15:04  First off, we're clearly talking about. Lesley Logan 15:06  Footwork on the Reformer. Yeah. DMK, this, I hate cues.Brad Crowell 15:13  Well, hold on, let's explain what the problem is. What is the problem that she's experiencing with her class? Lesley Logan 15:17  The problem that she's probably seen is they're, they're, they're pushing out and in, like, it's a leg press machine, like, it's like a leg machine, and they're making it only a leg exercise versus a full body exercise, right? And then the other thing is that they're not using all the muscles of their legs, because they're just, like, shoving their knees straight. And they're probably pausing at the top, which is what you do on a leg press machine. And then kind of, hopefully, on a leg press machine, you're resisting. But a lot of people just kind of, like, close the the weights, or just like, kind of float in or ride the springs in. So here's the deal, DMK, my teacher, Jay Grimes, and the teachers I studied with him, talked a lot about how Joe didn't really correct during footwork. You use footwork to tell you what's kind of going on in the person's body. So I also happen to like three or four springs on for footwork. So some people think that, like heavy springs means they're gonna use it like a leg press machine, but ideally you want those heavy springs to warm the body up. Two lightest springs can actually affect someone's lower back, if they have a tight lower back, or they're not getting the connection, and the warm up for what's to come. So I do like three to four springs. That being said, what you can do for those people who want to make it a leg press machine, take all the springs off, go down to one light spring and see what happens. They're going to fly off. And you're like, yeah, you actually have to push into the foot bar the whole time, even as you come in. So I love a one spring, because it kind of helps teach the actual movement, and then load the springs up. If you take my fast workshop, I think you can get it on our OPC website. You'll see how I explain how to use especially with arches and heels to do that. The other thing I would say is ask them, if they are opening the front of the hips or opening the back of the knees. What is their intention? Meaning, the, when you focus on opening the knee joint, you're a leg press machine. When you focus on opening the front of the hips, you're making this move from your center. I am looking, I actually don't care people's knees go straight. I'm looking at, can they move their thigh away from their center and open the front of their hips and then pull that back in. So I'm kind of looking at that, but if they don't do those things, the footwork is just really telling me how they're actually moving. And I have to pick other exercises to assist. So other ways to help them understand that's not like press machine would be doing leg springs. Single leg springs, both leg springs, footwork on the Tower is gonna be really helpful, because that's a whole different plane. And so like, find different exercises that get your point across. Ask them what they're feeling and then take them back to the Reformer and say, find that feeling here.Lesley Logan 17:39  Great. Love it. That's the best cue you could do. Lesley Logan 17:50  There you go. Brad Crowell 17:50  I love it. Great question, DMK. Lesley Logan 17:52  Thanks, DMK. Brad Crowell 17:52  If you have a question, just text us. 310-905-5534, 310-905-5534 or you can actually send your question in through, beitpod.com/questions, beitpod.com/questions.Lesley Logan 18:07  That's where you can also send your wins in, too. I want your wins, people. Brad Crowell 18:14  We want your wins. Let's do it. All right. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're actually going to talk about Jon Ostenson next. Lesley Logan 18:20  Finally. Brad Crowell 18:22  All right, let's talk about Jon Ostenson. An expert in franchising and based out of Atlanta, Georgia, Jon Ostenson left his W2 job eight years ago, after years in the corporate world, to become president of Shelf Genie, a large franchise system where he says he fell in love with the franchise model, which he explained amazingly and in detail during the interview. So if you didn't get a chance to listen to that, I would, I would very much encourage you to go listen to it. It was super informative. He is, Jon, is now the founder of FranBridge Consulting and author of the bestselling book, Non-Food Franchising, which, Lesley, I know you read, I've seen it on our table out there. Jon helps clients find suitable franchise opportunities from over 600 different brands outside of the fast food industry. His mission is to guide individuals who want to own a business but may feel risk-averse or lack a, quote unquote, genius idea connecting with them with proven scalable franchise model, and here's the, models, and here's the crazy thing, this is where I was like, oh my God, this guy's brilliant, his services to you are free. How are they free, you ask, because he sees what you're trying to do then he goes to the franchise, the parent company, and he says, pay me, and I'll help these guys succeed doing your franchise. Yeah, pretty brilliant. I was like, wow, that's amazing. So.Lesley Logan 19:44  I love it. I love it so much because it's, like, it's completely risk-averse for you, like, and the reason I thought this, I really wanted to dig in with this guy, because I don't even understand how you get into a franchise, and. Brad Crowell 19:58  Well, it makes me want to get into franchises. Lesley Logan 20:00  I know. And we just met someone who's like, all he does is all these different franchises and and so I just like it because, like, first of all, we talked a lot about how you could, like, work and have a franchise. Like, it's like, there's like, there's all these different ways you can do it. So, anyways.Brad Crowell 20:16  Yeah, he said a lot of franchisors, the people on the franchise, still might have a day job, because. Lesley Logan 20:21  Yeah. Aren't they a franchisee? Brad Crowell 20:24  Oh, sorry, franchisee. You're, you're right. The franchisor is the parent company. The franchisee is the person who's, who's like, purchase one of the locations or whatever. So the franchisee as if you could still be working your normal life and have a franchise, obviously, then it's about the team that you put in place to make sure that they can run it without you having to be there. But, but this guy was talking about having franchises all over the country, so he's clearly not in them operating them. Lesley Logan 20:51  Yeah. But also. No. And so you can be an owner-operator. He has, he, like, his book has got a lot of this stuff in it, if you want to, like, dig in even more and then chat with him, but like, here's what I. Brad Crowell 20:51  And by the way, we're not just talking about Pilates franchises. Lesley Logan 21:02  No, he is, like, there's so many, there's some out there. And also, like, I personally, I personally don't want to grab someone else's Pilates franchises, because, the way I like to teach, I probably would want to make my own, but maybe I want to get one that's in the like, maybe that's like a red light sauna space or something that goes along with what I do, that's like in the thing that I am interested in, in life, like I'm already. Brad Crowell 21:23  Or salt path, float, float, yeah, floating, yeah.Lesley Logan 21:27  By the way, there is a float place that I'm sure, is a franchise in Nashville that I'm like, how the fuck do we get it out here in our neighborhood? Because I'm tired of driving 30 minutes to go fucking float, I'm pissed off by the time I get back. Anyways, we just need, I don't know, a few thousands of dollars, and then we can do it, babe. I think, here's where our next adventure is. Brad Crowell 21:45  (inaudible) crazy is you said that, like, a lot of people, will start a franchise with maybe, you know, $50,000 to $100,000 down, and the rest of it is actually from a an SBA loan, because the SBA and the banks believe in the franchise model so much that they are willing to effectively front the rest of the startup capital. And I was like, wow, I never thought about that. That's amazing. Because, and like, you know, $50,000 is still a shitload of money. I understand that. But it also isn't a million dollars, right? Lesley Logan 22:18  And also, like, anyone who wants to start to make legitimate money, you have to stop thinking that $50,000 is a lot of money, start thinking it's possible, that you can get it, that there's a way, because I remember thinking that, oh, my God, it's so much money. And let me tell you the long as you think 50,000 is so much money you're gonna have, it's gonna feel so far away when you start to think like, of course I still have to find $50,000 you, go listen to that podcast we have with the guy with the question marks, I forget his name, anyways, go and find it, but let's just talk about things I loved that he said. Okay, let me get into my notes. He said, you're in business for yourself, but not by yourself. And I love this, because so many of the people I meet, they're like, so lucky that you and Brad, like, are married and like, you work together. And our biggest response is, like, not everyone should do what we do. So if you want to be in business for yourself, but not by yourself, instead of working with your partner, why don't you get a partner? And it can be a franchise like, I think that's really cool.Brad Crowell 23:09  And different franchisors offer different support, and that's one of the conversations that that you could have with a person like Jon, where you might be like, hey, I am innately a marketer, but I'm terrible at operations, right? Then he, he might say, okay, well, this franchise, you know, whatever, they can help. Or, or conversely, I hate marketing. I'm really, that's not my jam. I need a franchise that will create the content for me that I can just use to put out there. So they're different, like, corporate offices will do different things for the business to support the franchisee and but, but, but as a as a layman, how am I supposed to know? But Jon gets to see hundreds of franchises. Lesley Logan 23:53  I think that's what's so cool. Is like, if you know your strengths, then you can talk to Jon and figure out, like, what are the different franchises that I'm interested in that are, like, in an area I want to be in, and then, okay, of those, which one matches my strengths and my weaknesses? Because you don't want to have something that's like, great at marketing and you're great at marketing, but like, has the systems are not there for the operations, like things like that, but also the franchiser does a lot for you. And remember, it's a proven business model, so like, it's already figured like, it's already thrown ideas at the wall, figured out what works, and then you just get to rinse and repeat that. And I really, I really like that for people who want to create their own schedule, create their own impact, be part of the community, but are risk-averse, you know? And by the way, I get it, we just.Lesley Logan 24:39  I'm risk-averse, too. Lesley Logan 24:39  Oh my god, you really are. Brad Crowell 24:41  But in a measurable way. But it's like, I wouldn't want to go, just go throw money away and hope, hope that something works. Imagine being able to follow a systematic approach where they figured out all the kinks in the business. Like, like the business that Lesley and I run that we've created, it has taken us a lot longer to get to where we are today. It's literally 10 years now, 10 years of running this business, yeah, 10 years of trying to figure things out, making mistakes, doing all this stuff, when with a franchise model, there are so many less mistakes to make, because hypothetically, they've already made the mistakes for you and figured it out and put together the playbook that you can simply follow the plan, the process, right? I really loved when he talked about business ownership is really hard. It takes a lot of work. And, yeah, that's that's very true, too. And he said, if it was easy, everyone would be a business owner, and what he what so, so, of all the pros that we've been talking about with a franchise model, it still does take a lot of work, and it's it takes focus and and the biggest thing he mentioned was the people who fail don't follow the plan, right? And Jon goes, calls up the franchise corporate office and goes, yo, what happened here? What's going on? And the franchisor said, you know, would say to Jon, well, look, we did everything we could to support this person, but they didn't listen. They just didn't fucking listen, you know. And that doesn't mean that, like, there won't still be challenges, because every single location is different, every market is different, every opportunity. And what I mean that, I mean different franchise model is different, you know. So it still will take work, but you don't have to do it alone, you know. And that that's amazing, you know. So, so anyway, he doesn't sugarcoat franchises but he said it's a lot easier and a lot more predictable. Lesley Logan 26:40  His book, actually, like, talks about, like, like, kind of like, if it's for you, you know, and this is where like, it, for us to follow the rules, right, with you, you have to know, okay, we're gonna do this thing with this company. We're gonna follow their rules, which means I'm gonna hire someone to go follow their rules, because I am unemployable, so I will probably fuck him up, but you have to know that about yourself, you know. Such a cool dude. He also was like, because I told him I have an idea, I still have an idea that I might want to, like happen and make, and franchise and he's like, just give me a call. Run it by me. And I'm like, amazing. I just love how generous people can be. Brad Crowell 27:18  Yeah, yeah. Well, stick around, we're going to talk about how generous Jon is with his Be It Action Items, in just a minute. Brad Crowell 27:25  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Jon Ostenson? He said he really encourages people who are interested in franchising or the concept of franchising, to just simply explore, that there's no downside, there's no cost to learn about how it works, what it is, is it even plausible for me? Is this something that I could do while still doing my life? He said it's super free to work with them, which we already talked about at the very beginning of this convo here. FranBridge consulting, his company helps clients navigate and find top available opportunities among over 600 different non-food franchise brands and. Lesley Logan 28:08  We love that. I do not want to deal with food. Brad Crowell 28:10  Well, he's he's not, he's not opposed to food, but it also, apparently, just adds a whole lot more variables in there. Lesley Logan 28:16  I used to work at a coffee shop, and it was small business-owned, and I'm going to tell you right now, it is,.Brad Crowell 28:21  Well, that's different than a franchise, because a franchise is a system, so small business-owned might make things just complicated because they're making shit up.Lesley Logan 28:28  Food, food, there's, like, the things you have to do to prevent rats.Brad Crowell 28:32  Right, there's just a lot more variables when it comes to food. There's also a lot of more licensing and a lot more, like red tape with like, local state government stuff, you know. So anyway, he explained that what I already mentioned is that, how does he get paid? He gets paid by the franchise business, the corporate, right? He, you're not necessarily paying him directly. So, I mean, it seems like an absolute win-win.Lesley Logan 28:57  Just worth having the conversation like there's no, there's no harm in it, you know. Brad Crowell 29:00  Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 29:01  So I love that he said, activity breeds activity. Yes. It's like a body in motion, stays in motion. Yesterday, we just got into town, you know, at midnight on Friday night. I guess it's Saturday morning. Anyways, our friend, my she saw me at the gym, and she's like, you're like, the most consistent creature. And I'm like, I don't if I was to not be consistent, like, like, if I used travel as an excuse, I would never be consistent. So activity breeds activity. A body motion stays in motion. Explain, it's the idea he saw play out in his career and life, that whenever he gets off the sidelines he starts moving to Option A or B. That's that, then that's when option C comes out of left field. He says, good things happen when you're in motion. And it's so true. Like, it's so true. You know, even we got sidelined with the fucking Canada thing, we pivoted and kept going. And, like, because we did that, other things happened, that the dominoes kept going. And like, these other opportunities came around. And I think, like. Brad Crowell 29:53  Yeah, we met a whole studio we never would have met. Lesley Logan 29:55  We totally did. Could be a pop-up someday. But at any rate, like, you know, you, you'd be surprised what happens. Too often, we get we get sidelined, and we're like, I'm gonna sit over here. Keep going, take another step. And if you hear, as you hear in the podcast, it says action is the antidote to fear. So anyways, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 30:16  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:17  Thank you so much for listening to our podcast. We love your reviews. Leave us more reviews. I want more reviews. It's my love language. And share this with a person who needs to hear it like you might have a friend in your life who is like, kind of stuck, kind of wondering what to do. Maybe this is what they need. So send them Jon's episode. Send them this episode. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:38  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:38  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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From redefining “good” and “bad” habits to learning how empathy shapes teaching, Lesley and Brad recap their conversation with yoga teacher Anthony Benenati—founder of City Yoga, California's first Anusara studio, and now leads That's Not Yoga®. With over three decades of experience, Anthony has built a philosophy of meeting students where they are. Together they explore how ego, anger, and even curiosity can open the door to practice, and why the stories we carry and the language we use hold the power to shape growth. This episode invites you to pause, reflect, and ask: is this serving me?If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Anthony's teaching shaped his philosophy of fitting yoga to the students.Brad's early yoga mishaps and how they reframed his view of the practice.Feeling like an "outsider" in Pilates and how sharing built deeper connections.Why empathy is the real skill teachers need in guiding students.Why desire, knowledge, and action are the non-negotiables for growth.Episode References/Links:UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukP.O.T. 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If the answer is yes, fuck what people think. If it's a yes, and tomorrow it's a yes, and then the next week it's a yes, and then next month it's a no, then you make a change. Lesley Logan 0:22  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:05  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the authentic convo I had with Anthony Benenati in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you've missed out. Brad Crowell 1:16  You definitely missed out. Lesley Logan 1:18  I don't like to go around saying you made mistakes, but you did.Brad Crowell 1:20  You did. Lesley Logan 1:24  You don't suck or anything, but, all right, before I get into that, today is August 28th 2025 and it is National Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day. And on this day, of course, it's gonna say Rainbow Bridge twice. So the death of a beloved pet, whether it's the family dog, a furry kitty, or something a little more obscure, is a sad occasion. Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day on August 28th is the day that we remember the pets that are no longer with us. Whilst the pain of losing a pet, you can't laugh while we're talking about dead dogs, babe, but we are laughing because Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day is a day we remember our pets. We got that from remembrance, you know, like we got it, okay, anyways. Whilst the pain of losing a pet somewhat heals over time, they're never forgotten, and today is their day. The day was founded by author Deborah Barnes as a way for people to share their memories of the pets that they have lost, whether it's a dog, a hamster or a snake, or, you know, anything in between. Oh, maybe this is the day that we maybe actually like say it. Brad Crowell 2:32  That's what I was thinking. Lesley Logan 2:34  Okay, well, do you want to say it?Brad Crowell 2:36  Yeah, I do. Also, I think it's great that it's in the month of August. Lesley Logan 2:40  I know it's like we knew. Brad Crowell 2:42  If you didn't know, Lesley and I have only one dog now, and it's been a couple of months that we lost August as well. And when I say as well, what I mean is last year, we lost Gaia towards the end of the year, and then about six months later, we also lost August, and that was really, really challenging, and not something that we talk about very often.Lesley Logan 3:08  I know well, because there's a difference, and I think that's what was important about this day. And like, if you needed this day, it's like, there's something it was something easier. I mean, it felt really hard at the time when we had to, like, make a day to say goodbye to Gaia, you know, like we, we knew for years the day was coming, and we could see it was time. And we had a different situation with August, where it was just like, oh. Brad Crowell 3:33  It was unexpected. It was sudden. Lesley Logan 3:35  This is happening to this is happening today, and that's, that, like, that's just not enough time for your brain to like, not that we miss him differently, but we, I do, like, it's just a different grief. It felt like a different grief. Brad Crowell 3:48  It felt like a different grief. I felt like with Gaia, I had a lot more opportunity to say goodbye ahead of time, you know. And then when when it was gone, it was fond memories. With August, it felt like shock and sadness.Lesley Logan 4:11  Yeah, yeah. I mean, with and with her, like, I felt like, okay, she's gonna be better. Because, like, she was just having a hard time being alive. And he was so young, so that just felt like it was it was hard, it was awful. We didn't talk about it, because there's when you when you share, that someone passes away, or a pet passes away, there's an outpouring of love because of this world we live in. Like, you can say what you want about the negative sides of social media. But the positive sides are like, insane. It's like, it's like the people from your life 10 years ago, and because people have had pets like, they feel it. When you lose a pet and you see someone like you feel that loss with them. Because you know what it feels like and like, in no way were we capable of handling any I'm sorry, like I couldn't and, like, even now we're getting teary eyed. So anyways, we have one amazing dog, and we, if you know this about OPC, well, all of our companies do a little donation to a charity. It's built into all of our products and our profit margins and OPC, this year, I chose a dog charity down because they get like, 500 animals, like, a week, and like, they're trying really hard to be a no kill shelter, and I, and we can't I, like, literally, look at dogs Brad, like, look at this one. Like, we're gonna, like, we're gonna take this on. And as much as, like, oh, that fills this hole. Then I'm, like, it doesn't fill the hole. So, like, anyways, National Rainbow Bridge Remembrance Day to for from our hearts to all of yours who've lost a pet, it's so hard. So anyways, okay, so in other news. Brad Crowell 5:51  In other news.Lesley Logan 5:52  We are back from our tour, as you heard last time, but we are literally leaving in like four days to go to the U.K., and we opened up ala carte workshops, which means that if you can't take a whole day off with us, it's quite possible there is a spot left in a workshop. So we just took the day passes and allowed people to buy a workshop. So there might be one or two workshops that you can snag your spot. And so go to opc.me/uk because we're going to be in Essex and Leeds, and I don't know when we'll be back teaching in the U.K., but I know we're gonna be there now, and it's gonna be so much fun. There's some great workshops. There's some business ones, there's some Pilates ones. They're for people who like us and love us and just wanna learn with us who are really, absolutely amazing. So thank you to our hosts from The Movement Base and Chapel Allerton Pilates. Then we come back and like, two weeks later, we leave for Chicagoland. We're going to be at a Balanced Body's POT and I'm teaching the Joe's gyms there. Brad is going to have, like, Brad just now was helping me with the booth, and that's it's in Burr Ridge, but they call it Chicagoland, and I like that. And from Chicagoland, we're going to go to Cambodia. And you know what? We've had people last minute join us, like we said, you could join like, two weeks before. So, crowsnestretreats.com, if you are feeling ambitious and wanting to get the heck out of town because there's a lot going on and maybe you just want to take a break. So, crowsnestretreats.com. And then what? Brad Crowell 7:16  Well, we're actually working on lighting up a workshop and some classes in Singapore right now. Lesley Logan 7:21  I know. Brad Crowell 7:22  Which would be awesome. We'll see. You know, I would say at this point, if it hasn't come together, then we have a problem. If you're listening to this now, but right now we're working on it when we're recording this. So we're gonna say, yeah, it happened. It definitely happened. We got a workshop coming in Singapore.Lesley Logan 7:39  It's going to happen because, hello. I mean, it's not very often Singapore that I have a layover during daylight hours. Brad Crowell 7:44  That's right. Lesley Logan 7:44  And so we're gonna make there's people who want it.Brad Crowell 7:46  It's gonna be awesome, yeah. But anyway, we've been looking at different venues right now, and we're lining it all up. So yeah. And then after we get back from Singapore, we actually are home for about a month, which is quite nice to to chill out. We some family coming into town, and then we go on our winter tour for OPC, where we're driving another 8000 miles this year. Last year, we did 8200 over the winter. This year is going to be less miles more stops. Oh, yeah. Lesley Logan 8:20  Okay. Brad Crowell 8:21  Less miles, more steps, but it's gonna be awesome. We are stoked. Lesley Logan 8:24  You know what's really funny, guys? Okay, so the team, like, I see the map, I see where we're going, I give some inputs on some places. I'm like, yeah, I'll do that, whatever. But then they don't actually always tell me, like, all the events we're doing. So like, this week, all the private events that, because, like, studios that host us can also, like, hire us for an event, just for their team, right? So there's a public class and a public workshop, and then sometimes there's a private workshop. And apparently there's a lot more than workshops that I thought on the summer tour. So I am interested to see this winter tour. I expect lots of gifts and lots of hugs, but we'll announce the winter tour in October. So if you are in Cambodia with us, you'll hear it all announced. Brad Crowell 9:03  Yes, you will. Lesley Logan 9:04  Okay before we get into Anthony's incredible episode. What is the question of the week?Brad Crowell 9:10  Yes, great. So I don't actually know how to say this, netamenashe, yeah, netamenashe. there you go, on Instagram, she asked, Hey Lesley, do you do any Zoom sessions sometimes? Lesley Logan 9:27  Sometimes I do. Brad Crowell 9:28  Sometimes.Lesley Logan 9:29  That's true. Yeah. Who gets them? It's gonna sound like I'm an asshole, but the people who get Zoom sessions with me are people who are in my mentorship program, to be completely honest. I don't have a lot of hours in a week that I can teach because of we run OPC, you run Profitable Pilates, you know, and we do have the mentorship program, so the limited times that I have are for those in that program. And then sometimes OPC members get access to that calendar. But basically, as you can hear, no one publicly gets access to those things. So as much as I love to teach the world on Zoom, that the way I can do that is through OPC actually, because we have a monthly live class, and I can look, we can hang out afterwards, and I can look at your form. I can answer your questions. You don't even have to come to the live class when I look at your form, you can submit videos, and I can give you feedback. So if you're wanting me to give you feedback on some exercises, be an OPC member. If you're a teacher, you can go through eLevate we only have a few spots there, where OPC, it's obviously as many people. Brad Crowell 10:28  Open to the world. Lesley Logan 10:28  Open to the world and. Lesley Logan 10:29  But yeah, I mean, with eLevate, if you, if you're actually looking for a specific feedback on your practice and you want to really grow, Neta, you should be considering eLevate. It's for teachers. It's a nine-month program. It's like, consider it like going and getting a master's degree somewhere. It's very in depth, in in in what it covers. It's going to run through everything that Lesley learned from Jay Grimes, who studied with Joe. So you're going to be covering 500 exercises. It's going to be amazing. During that time, your your personal practice will significantly grow, and you'll also have, Lesley will be, you know, watching your practice during those nine months, too. So that's like, the best way to make that happen. Just reach out, or go to lesleylogan.co/elevate and or you can book a call. I'm super happy to hop on a call and just say, what's up, you know.Lesley Logan 11:21  I mean, I it's like a it's a great problem to have. And I actually used to teach this long I've been teaching online. I used to teach on Skype, and I used to teach people all over on Skype. Brad Crowell 11:30  2015, '16, '17 Skype.Lesley Logan 11:33  Yeah, Skype, oh, my God. Or sometimes Facebook, sometimes Facebook Messenger, because Skype wasn't working, or whatever, like, it was so, but I was, like, anything that has a video I can teach on it. And, you know, but, yeah, I think, like, we do have some great opportunities to work together in person between the tours and Cambodia, and then the online stuff is, you know, you I all love. Brad Crowell 11:56  That's another great one. You could come with us to Cambodia, Neta, where you'll be doing five classes with Lesley during the retreat. And obviously, you know, it's, it's not a large group. So you can come there and be in person. Lesley Logan 12:10  Yeah. So you guys send in your questions. You can, like, you'll literally hear honest feedback and answers. And we love answering them. Like, I just, I want, I want, I want I want questions about your wedding, I don't know. Like, give me some good ones. Go to beitpod.com/questions to submit them, or text us at 310-905-5534, it doesn't yet mean Be It Pod, but we're getting to.Brad Crowell 12:34  No it's not gonna mean Be It Pod anytime soon. So I love that your wishful thinking here it's, you know, low on the list.Lesley Logan 12:41  Being it till I see it. Brad Crowell 12:43  Lower on the priority list. Lesley Logan 12:47  All right, all right. Brad Crowell 12:49  Love you. Lesley Logan 12:49  Love you too.Brad Crowell 12:51  Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into one of my really dear friends who I've now known for more than a decade, and he he's just inspirational in multiple ways, being a yogi, but also, you know, he's a philosopher too. So cannot wait to dig into this convbo that you have with Anthony Benenati. You're really going to enjoy. If you haven't already gone back and listened to that, you should, but yeah, looking forward to it. Stick around we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 13:19  Right. Let's talk about Mr. Anthony Benenati. A professional yoga teacher with over 32 years of experience. Before stepping into yoga, Anthony served in the Air Force and worked in a comp as a competitive power lifter. I don't know if he worked at it, but he was a competitive power lifter, which left him with shoulder and knee injuries. In fact, you know, he he told me when he was younger, he couldn't even touch his toes, you know, and today he's like, you know, obviously been doing yoga for three decades. He founded City Yoga, which was California's first on a Sora studio, and he now leads, That's Not Yoga. That's his website, thatsnotyoga.com. He he's actually also done a lot of business stuff, and like because he sold studios and then he taught for other people, and he's done workshops and holds retreats, all sorts of stuff. Anthony's philosophy is to fit yoga to the student, making sure the practice leads to transformation and healing, not to suffering. And he teaches students to listen to their bodies every day, meeting themselves where they're at, with their openness and compassion, and yeah I think that is a really great summary of, you know, who he is. But I would also say he rides a motorcycle, he drinks beer, he curses. He's fucking cool and hip, and that's one of the things that that I connected with him the most about is because I had this preconception of what's a yogi. Lesley Logan 14:45  I mean, your first class was, like a per tip, like a bit like, like the typical yoga instructor, like this little, soft spoken older lady.Brad Crowell 14:52  No, no, no, no, no. I had my well, so that, so that was the first teacher that I actually learned from, and she was super sweet and nice. But yes, the class was literally for, like, elderly people. And I was like, teach me the foundations. And I liked the class because she let her students ask questions during class. And I was like, I don't understand this pose. How does it work? And it effectively was like. Lesley Logan 15:14  In case you haven't noticed, Brad, you guys, Brad literally interrupts all classes to ask questions. Like, like, all classes, he has questions. He comes on the retreat, and he'll just pop into a class, and then he's got a question. It's like, we actually talked about that yesterday, and you missed class. But okay.Brad Crowell 15:29  So, but my very first class was hilarious, because I'm like, you know, my nickname in yoga class was shark boy, or Mr. Bendy, and I, I've just been I'm a hyper mobile body, so naturally flexible. And I get to my first yoga class ever was a Groupon that I bought, and I showed up for class, and I'm in the middle of, like, 30 or 40 people, and I don't have a clue what I'm doing. I'm watching this guy up in the front, you know, do all the things. And I was like, okay, we're sticking our arm over there. We're shooting, our leg over this way. We're twisting and blah, blah, blah. And at the end of the class, he came up to me, he's like, wow, man, you have a great practice. And I was like, this is my very first class. And it was like, what? And I was like, yeah. And then I left the studio, and I walked out to my motorcycle, and I could not get onto it. Lesley Logan 16:16  You did way too much. Brad Crowell 16:17  Because I hurt myself so bad that I literally had to sit there for like an hour just for my back to not be screaming at me. And I was like, well, yoga is not for me. And I just was like, I'm done. And then I never, you know, like, I never went back, and I, but I, but I had that Groupon right? And so anyway, somehow I ended up using it. And I bought another package somewhere with Anthony, because the studio was convenient and but I only want. Lesley Logan 16:46  Your first class wasn't with Anthony. Brad Crowell 16:47  No, no, my first class was not with Anthony. But like, a year or two later, I was like, I'm gonna give this another try. And I did buy, like, a 10 pack at Anthony's studio, and I use, like, and he didn't have an expiration on it, right? So, and I, but I only use, like, two classes. And then I didn't know yoga for like, years. And then there was a point where I was like, I need to go. I need to go back to class. And I, I called the studio. Had, he had sold it and, you know, so I, I went. I was like, hey, I had this package with the old studio, you know, you know. And I wasn't even taking with Anthony. I had been taking with that lady, that older lady, lady, but I still had packages. It just so happened to be Anthony's studio. I didn't know that, yeah. So when I went back, Anthony was the teacher, and that's how I first met him. And I was like, who the hell is this guy? He's awesome. This is rad and that and then I was like, hooked. I was in. This is probably like, 2014. So I've been dabbling in yoga for like, maybe three years, but not really.Lesley Logan 17:46  I love how two or three times in two years is dabbling.Brad Crowell 17:50  Yeah. Well, with the with the older with the with the older lady, whose name I don't remember, and I feel bad about that. I probably went, you know, I bought a few 10 packs, you know, I went a few times.Lesley Logan 18:00  Okay, it wasn't clear that there's a multiple 10 pack. Brad Crowell 18:02  Yeah. Sorry, sorry I went a few times, like, I had enough foundation (inaudible). Lesley Logan 18:05  Every time I've heard this story it has always had, like, one 10 pack, and it's like, you get a couple of times it's not dabbling.Brad Crowell 18:12  Oh, I went, I went, yeah, I went enough to, like, decide that yoga wasn't gonna hurt me if I knew what I was doing. But, you know, I didn't actually, like, it didn't turn it into a habit or a practice. I just went a few times, and then, you know, it wasn't until, you know, a year later that I went back to redeem the rest of my package that, studio had sold. I didn't even know it. And I was like, well, they're gonna honor it. I already have classes. I'll just go there. And then I happened to pop into a class that was Anthony's, but, wow, that was a long story that has nothing to do with anything. Lesley Logan 18:45  Speaking of Anthony. Brad Crowell 18:45  Yeah, let's shift on, like from your convo, which was deep. Lesley Logan 18:50  It was deep. I knew it would be, I know it'd be so good, but I think for all the teachers, no matter what you teach, this is a really great thing. Anthony says he believes that the most effective teacher is someone who understands how people get to the practice. Brad Crowell 19:03  Well, you just found out. Lesley Logan 19:05  Yeah, well, but like, right, right, but like, I think this goes to, you know, we coach a lot of Pilates instructors, and they're like, I want to work with an advanced person. All they want to do is lose weight, and it's like, right? And we don't want you to lie to people, but you have to understand what gets people to the practice, so that you can have empathy for them being a beginner, because they should be allowed to be a beginner, and we can't, we don't want them to feel shame for what they think they want in their life, because that's a compilation of years of stories and influence good or bad to, and in the conversation we talked about, there's no such thing as good or bad, but like to to someone. And so how can you really have a lived experience, so that you can in whatever it is you're teaching, so that you can come from a really great place, an honest place, and and be human, you know, like, I think a lot of instructors put themselves upon pedestals, cult leaders and and forget that like you are also in practice when you teach something, that's a practice, right? And so he also said empathy is such an important factor to be a great teacher, you have to put yourself in their shoes. And this is something like, look, of course, I have days where I get tired and I'm like, why don't they just fucking relax and stop trying to be perfect, like I don't understand, like, I'm fucking just, just relax, just be in practice. But also, I know what that is like. I know why they can't do it. I know that they have years of like, being for whatever, like somebody told them that it had maybe the perfection is because it kept the house safe. You know, there's so many different reasons why people seek perfection. They want certainty. They want control, you know.Brad Crowell 20:47  Yeah, I mean, it could be a response from uncertainty in another area of their life, where they feel like this is where I can have certainty, because I know exactly how it's supposed to be, you know. And then, and then it becomes this thing. Lesley Logan 21:00  Yeah, but when I when I like, so when I catch myself, because sometimes, like, I'm like, and it's like, oh, wait, hold on a second. We've like, I've been here. So what, what was I going through? And what actually got me to, like, let go of that and get back in that empathy, because it actually is what helps guide people on the path to being more themselves, to connecting to themselves, to having a personal practice. So it was just like.Brad Crowell 21:25  Yeah. Anthony was talking about his ego was the thing that brought him to the practice. Because he was like. Lesley Logan 21:31  Which would just be the irony of yoga. Brad Crowell 21:33  Yeah. And I'll tell you, it was actually anger that brought me to the practice and. Lesley Logan 21:39  I do went to yoga with you because I thought you're cute. I mean I was going to yoga already, and I was like, Ookay, I'll go to that class with him, because he's cute.Brad Crowell 21:48  bBut, but I was angry that I couldn't do it, and that was also ego. But like, I was angry. I was angry outside. I was angry at my ex, right? And I was angry that I couldn't figure it out. And I was angry that my I was just angry. And then when I when I knew was that, after I had beat the shit out of myself in a yoga class, I felt better. Like, ironically, you know, and like, if you know, talk about controlling, like I wanted every single answer to every every possible understanding of the movement, you know, and then, and then there was stuff that I was like, couldn't do. And it generally like, ironically, I was flexible, but I wasn't flexible enough in my own mind. And I definitely wasn't strong. And, you know, I think that anger, like, pushed me through the strength training barriers of where I was, like, I need to be able to hold this pose for whatever, 10 seconds, I don't know, like, whatever it was like. And it was like, I mean, I'm glad I didn't hurt myself, to be honest, you know, during it. But it was, you know, it took me a solid six months to enjoy the practice, you know, because I was just frustrated at everything.Lesley Logan 23:04  Yeah, I think, like, had you come to it for a different way, you might, like, it would might have been a different thing, but maybe you didn't, wouldn't have practiced that hard. Like, I think, I think that's what the point is. Like, what if we allowed our journey to whatever it is just be that, I think a lot of people want to change the past. They want, they want it to be a different way that they got into something. I remember, like, how I got into Pilates. I thought it was BS, and I remember not telling anyone that story for years, like I was so embarrassed that I actually thought that that Pilates was a gimmick, you know, I really was. I was like, oh. And then also on top of that, because when I became a Pilates instructor, people, most of the teachers were dancers. So here I was one of the few in my world, not in the world, but in my world, L.A., that was a non-dancer, and I thought it was bullshit, you know, like I was just like, I'm just gonna just, I'm just gonna bend back, I'm in the back, and no one's gonna know. But then I realized, like, actually, like, how I got to Pilates is probably how a lot of people think about Pilates. And what if I actually just, like, lean into the empathy of that, and it might actually allow more people to come to the practice, because then they don't feel stupid or silly or weird for thinking it's, it's, you know, not gonna work, you know? And it found, the more I talked about how I wasn't a dancer, the more teachers were like, I'm not one either. And then made them feel good. And so, like, what if we all just own the story that we have? It might actually make us all have more community and connection to different people.Brad Crowell 24:33  Yeah. I mean, it makes you relatable, you know, makes makes as a teacher, it makes you relatable when you're willing to, you know, share the things that it's I think, you know, there's always over-sharing can be wrong. But like, I think it's hard to know what will be received well. And so I feel like that there's fear there, and that's why you know, you're like, man, I shouldn't share that. But then, like, when you know if and when you do, it's like, oh, you know, like, well, I'm not alone in this, and other people are probably also not sharing, and now they feel permission to, you know, commiserate or connect, or, you know, makes them feel better about themselves, too. So, yeah. Lesley Logan 25:12  Yeah. Love it. Okay, what did you love? Brad Crowell 25:13  Yeah, so I loved this idea of good and bad. You know, he said yoga doesn't actually see things as good and bad. It's not like you have a good practice or a bad practice, or you're a good yogi or a bad yogi, you know. He said that yoga kind of sees things more in the does it work, or is it not working? You know? And he was talking about the specifically, like, when, when we were talking about this, it was more talking about habits. You know, it's like, the habit is there, whether it's a quote, unquote, good habit or a bad habit. You know, we're taking that and setting that aside instead. It's a, you know, how is this habit serving me? Is it, is it working for me, or is it not working for me, right? And specifically you were like, maybe you get frustrated that you sit there and scroll on Instagram all day long, but maybe you can see that as a good thing, because you actually need a moment to to just like, not think, right?Lesley Logan 26:12  Yeah, yeah. We also mean, we talked about, like, some people would say it's bad to drink, but like, if it if, if that drink made you that drink made you relax and connect with your family. Like, is it bad and and I think, like, is it wrong? So I've heard that this before, and a couple different things, obviously, like, there are things that cannot be great for you, but you, the difference is, like, is it serving you? Is it serving you? And it's okay for something to serve you and not serve somebody else. Brad Crowell 26:43  Or what is coming from it that could be serving you, right? Like, it might not be the thing that is serving you like, like the alcohol itself might not be beneficial, but the quality time that you spent with family when consuming the alcohol that is worth doing, right, you know? So, there's, I still, I still love the idea that like everything in moderation, including moderation, you know.Lesley Logan 27:08  Well, I think the point is, because I think about Brene Brown, she's gone in my head a couple times in this conversation, guilt versus shame is her thing, right? Like, I think some people shame themselves. I had a drink last night, versus, like, I spent time with my family and I had a drink, and I love spending time with my family. I don't love I had the drink, but when I had the drink, it let me forget about the work that I had so I could spend time with my family. So I do need to figure out a way to get to forget about work so I can spend time my family. But we don't have to have shame around the drink, because, you know, and I think that's where it's like, we have to be kinder to ourselves. I think people just walk around. I mean, it's on the internet, right? People just shame people all the time. That's bad. That's wrong. You did that wrong. Like, no one is going way to go, like, you know, when's the last time you told a stranger (inaudible). Brad Crowell 28:00  We definitely celebrated with OPC. I was gonna, I was gonna circle this right back around to your Pilates practice or your yoga practice, because when I first got into yoga, that was how I treated myself. I'm not good enough. I'm doing it wrong. I'm not doing it well. It's, it's not good, like I'm not a good yogi. And I was judging myself, but I was angry. I was angry at myself. I was angry at the world, you know, and like, you know, but I knew that, like physically, my body, like you ever felt like, you ever felt like so frustrated you just have to go run? You ever felt like that, where like running is somehow going to like be the thing, I and, like, that was that was like, you know, because you get that endorphins release and all that stuff, and that was what I was looking for without really understanding it, I just knew that I felt better after class, you know, and because I was also more relaxed and, like, my mind wasn't like, freaking out all the time, you know, at that point. But it still took time for me to like, took years for me to stop judging my own practice and like the idea that.Lesley Logan 29:14  But I think going back to like, there's a difference between saying something is bad and to lead to I'm bad, and asking yourself, and if we could just catch ourselves now, because this is why I love this conversation. Is it serving me? If the answer is yes, fuck what people think. If it's a yes, and tomorrow it's a yes, and then the next week, it's a yes, and then next month, it's a no. Then you make a change, but. Brad Crowell 29:44  Sure, you can make a choice. Lesley Logan 29:45  But I think some people are using judgment on good or bad, on things that are serving them, and then they're fucking stuck, like if you had not gone to yoga because I'm bad. It makes me feel like, you know, so I'm not, like, yoga would become the thing that's wrong. And then, like, you know what I mean? So like, is it serving me? It's serving me to go because I'm angry, and I can be angry, and it's serving me, and then all of a sudden, the anger at yoga no longer served you, and you let it go. So I think, like, there's a couple different ways to see this. Brad Crowell 30:20  Or the anger at me is no longer serving me. Lesley Logan 30:22  Yeah, so you had to let it go. So I think, what if we could all stop? If you and this is something we can catch ourselves doing here at this household, you and me together, but also, like our coworkers, your friends, like, if you go, oh, I know it's bad that I do this, hit, pull, that rubber band. Is it serving me, that I do this, right? Is it serving me that I do this? And if you can honestly say yes, then let the fucking guilt go, because it's not helping you. Brad Crowell 30:48  You said pull that rubber band? Lesley Logan 30:50  You know, you have a rubber band on your wrist. Brad Crowell 30:52  Yeah, yeah. Snap it. Lesley Logan 30:53  Snap it. Brad Crowell 30:54  Like, hit the reset button. Yeah, you know. And, and it's, you know, that he took it a little bit differently in the conversation, because he's, you know, he was talking about all things serve a purpose, even if we look at it and say that's bad, you know? Because, you know, he said we wouldn't know love without hate, joy without pain. Lesley Logan 31:18  I can think of a few people that I could still think the world's a better place if they weren't in it. I'm just gonna say, we all know, but like, I get the point.Brad Crowell 31:27  Perspective, right? It allows us to actually understand what we have in our world that is amazing, you know, because we can also see, oh, damn, I definitely that is not amazing over there. You know? You know that that's not giving that's not that is not working. That would not work for me, right? I mean, yeah, that wouldn't work for me. So, you know, it's a, he said, it's a balance, you know, and it's and each scenario you find yourself in, you can find that balance between, you know, is it working for me or not working for me? Or is it the good and the bad? You know, how can it be working for you? Lesley Logan 32:04  I mean, you know, I love it because, like BJ Fogg always said, there's no such thing as bad habit. Every habit you have is serving some function. Now, there might be habits you don't like or are no longer serving you, but they're a habit. But there, you cannot say there's a bad habit, because it is providing something in your brain that's kicking off a dopamine otherwise your brain wouldn't seek doing it.Brad Crowell 32:24  Right. Yeah, yeah. I always thought about that too with, like, food, you know, there's something, even if it's like, quote, unquote, bad habit of, like, eating all the time, or, like, maybe you have, like, a consistent, like, I eat late, or whatever, and you know that it's like, not physically helping you. There's still something in your head that's like, I need that thing, whatever that thing is, you know, I need that glass of orange juice, you know, I need the sugar, you know. Lesley Logan 32:49  Well, because it could be, it brings re lief, right? It's distraction, it might calm you down. There's so many different things that our habits do. So if there's something that you feel no longer serves a purpose in your life, right, you have to explore that and not judge that. I'm going to do a whole series on habits, actually, so we can continue this conversation on this like it's now an eight episode series I'm going to do about habits. Brad Crowell 33:19  Really? Lesley Logan 33:19  Oh, Brad has no idea. Brad Crowell 33:20  What? Tell me more. Lesley Logan 33:22  Yeah, oh, my God, I'm doing a whole episode, a whole series on my. Brad Crowell 33:25  On where? Lesley Logan 33:26  On the pod. I'm just taking over and not interviewing people for a few weeks. And I'm gonna tell you how to fucking do a habit. And we're also talking about unraveling habits that no longer serve you. Brad Crowell 33:35  All right, you heard it here first, y'all, surprise. Lesley Logan 33:37  So the thing the homework from this episode is just start taking notice of things, you know, the habits you have, the routines you have that no longer serve you. And we can bring that to the series, which will come out, I think it's going to come out either in December or January, so.Brad Crowell 33:55  Cool. All right, that's really fun. We'll stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those Be It Action Items that you covered with Anthony, which were also fantastic. So yeah, stick around we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 34:07  Welcome back. Let's dig into those Be It Action Items that you had.Lesley Logan 34:13  You guys, I am notorious, like, I'm notorious, like, yeah, I'm ready. And then I just looked down, and he's like, just wants me to look at the camera when he says welcome back. So I'm sorry, everyone here we are. Welcome back. Brad Crowell 34:24  Welcome back. Lesley Logan 34:24  Say it with him. What bold, ex, you're not gonna say it with me? What bold, executable, intrinsic or targetedBrad Crowell 34:31  Action items can we take away from your convo with Anthony Benenati?Lesley Logan 34:35  Just so you know, I always fade out, even when you sing Happy Birthday, because I can't. I don't like how I sound. Okay. I'm going first, babe, here we go. I'm taking away because I there's just too many things I loved. So he said, he states that it's important that we actually we focus on three things when you want to do things that you want to do. So first of all, to do anything you want to do, you have to actually have the desire to do it. If you don't have the desire to do it, you won't put the effort forward. Has anyone ever said like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna learn Spanish, and then you don't learn Spanish. So you have to have the desire to do it. This is, we're gonna talk about this in the Habit Series. I love it. Knowledge. You have to learn to do it. He actually said just doing something without knowing how to do it can cause you harm. This is very true. You have to actually learn how to do it. I'm actually trying to learn how to do tarot, because I like want to, we have a Ttarot episode coming out, and I like, want to understand how to like, do it better. And I want a tarot is a personal relationship with yourself. It's asking yourself questions. And I want to have, I don't want to do it wrong. I want to have a really good understanding of it before I start journaling and pulling cards. And really like doing it for real. And then third is action. Then you simply have to do it. But beyond doing it just once, you must commit to doing over and over and over again to create meaningful change. And I love this so much. We have to be okay with being beginners, are we okay for having, like, being on a journey of learning, and then you just keep doing it. And it's really amazing how when you do that, it's like there's deeper levels of everything that we do, and it's just so good. I am loving, I love this, love, I love this triad. Okay, Brad.Brad Crowell 36:12  Yeah, I think that that idea of desire, knowledge and action is so obvious, but we often will skip one of the steps. Lesley Logan 36:24  Sometimes people skip desire. Brad Crowell 36:26  That's what I'm saying. Lesley Logan 36:27  It's terrible, like, that's a bad one. Brad Crowell 36:28  I'm doing it because I have to, or I'm doing it for somebody else, but really, you don't fucking want to, and so it actually sets you up to fail from the gate, right? Because what's gonna happen, you're gonna you're gonna do it, and it's gonna build frustration or resentment, you know, or like you mentioned with step two, if you skip knowledge, you could hurt yourself. And then, you know, there's step three, which is actually being consistent with it. You can have the desire to learn. You could even learn how to do it. But then if you don't do it.Lesley Logan 37:03  Right, right, because you, because some people won't do things because they're they're too new at it, you know. Okay, your Be It Action Items, your takeaways.Brad Crowell 37:11  Okay, so he was talking about being careful with language, and you mentioned this too, right? How your body actually learns, your body responds to the way that you think and the things that you say impact, you know, like, what you think is what you're going to say, and what you think your body is also going to do. Lesley Logan 37:32  Your body's not going to go rogue on you.Brad Crowell 37:34  Right. So, for example, you were talking about, you know, oh, I'm never, I never lose weight, or I'm never gonna get stronger or, you know, or I was thinking about just this, just the other day, I had somebody come, you know, we had somebody come to our place, and we were just taking photos, and the person said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, that's my bad side. And then shifted to the other side of the photo so they could get it. And I was like, that's like, I mean, of course, we've all heard that and like, it sounds like so Hollywood, but it's also, you know, like, that's a shame.Lesley Logan 38:13  Well, also, because you it just you have confirmation bias. You actually always see the thing that you're saying is bad, but your body listens. If you say you have a weak arm, your body's not gonna go let me show you how strong I am. No, it's just not gonna happen, and you'll treat it that way. So I really, I really think language, being careful with it, is something we could all pay attention to.Brad Crowell 38:34  Yeah and then the other side of it, too is let's say you have the desire and the action, the knowledge, I mean, and you're putting it into action, the way that you put it into action today might be different than the way you put it into action yesterday, right? And I think I had, especially with my yoga practice, never fully embraced this idea, ever. So for 10 years, I was like, I can always go further than I did the day before. That's just the way I always looked at it. It wasn't until I started lifting weights that I truly looked at it like, I just can't today, whatever, whatever, like, like, if last week I did 150 pounds, I just feel like, wimpy today, I'm not going to be able to do it and I and I could actually hurt myself.Lesley Logan 39:28  Yeah, that's why my trainer has me on a deload week because it's important for your central nervous system to, like, think things are a little easier. Can't always be building, building, building. You have to calm it down, yeah, so it's, it's so true, like our the way we approach things has to be different if we're listening to our body. Brad Crowell 39:47  Yeah and, you know, so yeah, listening to your body, being careful with your language, being willing to, being willing to, not, you know, whatever, reach the goal or hit the to be the epitome of the pose or, you know, in our in my case, it was often handstand, you know, when it was yoga, or for lifters, it's like, I gotta hit my max. Last max was, you know, this, so I gotta hit, I gotta at least hit that and then more, right, like, being willing to be like, okay, maybe right now it's okay if it's different, you know.Lesley Logan 40:24  Yeah, it's interesting how, like, some of those things, just you'd learn with age, but also.Brad Crowell 40:27  I think with age and also, like death. I never felt like I was gonna hurt myself in yoga. I never felt like I could crush my skull. Like, if you're benching and you have too much weight, your body could slip and fail, and you could have 150 pounds crashing on your body like, that was, that was the moment where I was like, oh, okay. Lesley Logan 40:47  So there it is, Anthony. We should have just probably go how to teach Brad he could have died, get a fucking broken his neck. Oh, my God. Okay, now we know. Well, I.Brad Crowell 40:59  But also that's translated, you know, like, I it took me an opportunity to learn, and then, you know, now, when I'm going back into my yoga practice, it's, doesn't have to be like, to the nth degree every single time.Lesley Logan 41:12  Yeah, I just show up. Like, that's where I'm at. I'm like, I'm really enjoying just showing up. So glad I get to do that. I'm like, I'm here today.Brad Crowell 41:20  I also feel a lot stronger, too, and less flexible. And I acknowledge that. Lesley Logan 41:25  You're no longer a shark boy. Brad Crowell 41:26  No. I mean, I don't think so. I'm still flexible, but I'm not like I was like before. Lesley Logan 41:31  You have mobility. Brad Crowell 41:32  Yeah, but I could put my foot behind my neck not in front of my head.Lesley Logan 41:35  I know, but you have but we need strength as we get older, it's really fucking hard to put it on. Anyways, I just this whole episode has so many gems I really enjoyed, like, reliving it. I think it's one that's worth going back to. And I think it's got, it's got a takeaway you might listen to differently each time you hear it. So, listen to it again. And I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 41:57  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 41:58  Thanks for listening. I want to hear reviews. I want to hear takeaways. I want your fucking questions. Send it in to beitpod.com/questions, also your wins. I want your wins. I want a lot. Okay, I want a lot. Brad Crowell 42:09  Yeah. We want it all. Lesley Logan 42:10  Yes, I can't I'm not gonna sing a song for you. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 42:14  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 42:16  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. 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Today's recap episode revisit Lesley's conversation with Sarah Rhoads, founder of Commbi Shoes. They explore Sarah's journey from a thriving photography career to becoming an innovative footwear entrepreneur, the intentional choices behind her reinvention, and how she learned to chase fear instead of letting it chase her. This recap digs into the role of curiosity, alignment, and persistence in turning a personal problem into a purpose-driven product.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Redefining fear as a signal for growth instead of a stop sign.Why trust and self-belief is crucial when building a business.The importance of protecting your autonomy to avoid burnout.Why specific regular habits are a form of prioritizing self-care.Episode References/Links:Online Pilates Classes - https://onlinepilatesclasses.comUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukP.O.T. 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:56  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the trailblazing convo, can I say that one more time? Dig into the trailbr. Brad Crowell 1:05  Wow. Maybe you can't.Lesley Logan 1:08  I might not be able to wave it in. Dig into the trailblazing convo I had with Sarah Rhoads in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, you should. You'll also hear me fuck up her the name of her business right after she told me exactly how not to say it. And I just want to apologize, Sarah, you told me, I heard you. I was like, yeah, don't call it that, and then called it that. And I just want to say, like, I it wasn't intentional. Anyways, we'll get into Sarah Rhoads and her amazingness in just a second. Lesley Logan 1:38  But Today is August 21st 2025 and it's Internet Self-Care Day. Brad Crowell 1:42  Yes, it is. Lesley Logan 1:42  So after this, probably get off the internet, is what it's going to say. But listen to this first. Internet Self-Care Day is celebrated each year on August 21st. This holiday is dedicated to using the internet to, oh, actually, it's different than I thought. Brad Crowell 1:56  Yes, it is. Lesley Logan 1:56  Using the internet to find resources that can help you take care of yourself. Many of us are so preoccupied with taking care of others, whether at work or at home, that we forget to take care of ourselves. Not these Be It Pod listeners, right? Self-Care is described as caring for oneself through practices that promote. I just love how they use that word to define the word. They do it all the time. Self-care is described as caring for oneself through practices that promote health and active management of illness when it strikes. There are many ways to regularly practice self-care through food choices, exercise, sleep and dental care. For example, dental care, yeah, that's a form of self-care. Also going to get your annual visits are a form of self-care. I say drinking enough water is a form of self-care, like self-care can be free.Brad Crowell 2:42   I think the doctor's office visit thing is a big deal, you know, like. Lesley Logan 2:46  Because it's so hard to get the appointment. It's so easy to ignore them. It's taken four people to get me a doctor's appointment.Brad Crowell 2:53  Yeah, it's a, it's like a, it's a rabbit hole, right? And that's, that's half the problem is, like, you always have to start with your GP and then your GPS refer you to these other places and lalalalala whatever. But the point is that that, like, it's, it's, um, you know, it's a multiple step. It's such a multi-step process, and there's so much time between that. Like, it just feels like one of the things, you're like, I'll get to it eventually. Lesley Logan 3:15  Yeah. And then eventually you're like, oh, shit, it's been, like, a few years on. Brad Crowell 3:16  Yeah, it's been years. Lesley Logan 3:16  But if you do The Artist's Way, one of an artist states could be actually, like, making your doctor's appointments because they're so hard to do. They're not normal, right, just, like, to do. Anyways, if you are in the U.S. and you're trying to navigate your way through this shithole of a healthcare system, I see you, I hear you. Everyone gets to pick a cause in this world, and if that's gonna be yours, like, I will champion it with you. I'll highlight on your side. Like, I'm a big fan of dog rescues, but, like, I got a girlfriend who's we have a friend whose husband just had a random stroke. He's fucking our age. And she's stuck in another state, and she can't get, her insurance will cover the helicopter from Detroit to Denver, and she can't get Kaiser to just sign this one piece of paper. So they're stuck in a hospital for now, we're going on seven days waiting for someone to sign the piece of paper, and she's like, what do you have to do? I'm like, local news. That's we have to do, unfortunately, GoFundMe and local news. So anyways, self-care is going to your doctor's appointments. Take care of yourself. Also take care of yourself, because clearly, medical systems can't take care of you. So you got to care for yourself today. Brad Crowell 4:19  You know, they're, they're, yes, they're, they can't take care of you, and there's, they're not going to be reliable in the near future either, so. Lesley Logan 4:19  But if you hear an ad from FemGevity, I really do like them, and they are a great go-between, because they are the they actually answer my questions and they.Brad Crowell 4:33  But that's the irony. We're talking about a third party company, not the healthcare system. Lesley Logan 4:39  Right, right, right, right. Brad Crowell 4:40  And they better have their shit together. And yes, they do, and good for them for that. But also, what the fuck that it takes this to have that.Lesley Logan 4:48  Yeah, no, I have, I had to go pay on somehow on top of what I already paid for to get the help. But you know what? It's cheaper than being sick. So here, and also, like it has helped me. They've helped with my hormone therapy. They helped with my sleep. They helped with my digestion. So that's an act of self-care. So anyways, that got became a healthcare self-care day. But we'll, we'll move on. Lesley Logan 5:07  Today, we are back from our tour, and we are getting ready to go to the U.K. Brad Crowell 5:13  Oh, wait, there's one more self-care I wanted to talk about. Lesley Logan 5:15  Oh, what? Brad Crowell 5:16  OPC. Lesley Logan 5:17  Oh, OPC is absolutely a great way to. Brad Crowell 5:19  You could use the internet to take class and get you movement in on onlinepilatesclasses.com. Lesley Logan 5:24  I just want to give OPC a shout out in amazing way. So, in today's world where everyone's trying to sell you on some gimmick bullshit of what Pilates is, Pilates arms, and how you have to look a certain way, fuck that at OPC, we will never sell you on weight loss. We will never tell you that you have to get that Pilates will make your bio look a certain way, but we will make you strong as fuck and make sure you have the longevity for the life you want to live. You will have so much support. If you only take five minutes of a class, we will still cheer you on and championship you. If you miss a week, you're like, oh my god, I missed it. We were like, That's okay. You're here today. Like you have unconditional constant support of people, a bunch of women and a few good men, constantly supporting you, no matter what you look like, where you're at in your practice, how old you are, what you can do. Brad Crowell 6:07  A community is great. Lesley Logan 6:09  It's freaking awesome. And I am pissed off this week over recording this. It's obviously a different week than you're listening to it, but if you were on my Instagram, I'm so pissed off at the way people think they can talk about women's bodies and what a body is supposed to look like, and Pilate Arms and the New York fucking Times did a whole episode on Pilates arms, episode, article and the opinion page on Pilates arms. Brad Crowell 6:31  Did they really? Lesley Logan 6:31  And, yes, they did. And then, because I can't read, it's behind a paywall and I'm too pissed to give him money, they tried to attribute it to political beliefs. Let me explain you right now. There's no such thing as Pilates arm so there's no way in hell, Pilates can be a right or left situation, but if you have arms, you can do Pilates. Congratulations. Pilates arms. Correlation is not causation, like people try to use Jennifer Aniston as like, oh, Jennifer Aniston's arms is because of Pilates. No. Jennifer Aniston's arms are because she's Jennifer Aniston, who happens to do Pilates. You like anyways, so at OPC, we'll never sell you on that ship, because that they're lying to you. We are honest people about Pilates being here for your longevity, for the health of it, for the self-care of it. So anyway, okay, I'll get off.Brad Crowell 6:32  Especially the self-care of it. So love that. Lesley Logan 7:05  Get off my high horse. Brad Crowell 7:19  September is coming and we're going to be in the U.K. We're very excited to be coming back. It's been two years since we've been there. We're going to be in two locations, we're going to be in Leeds, we're going to be in Essex. So if that is near you, or if you know anyone who's in the area, even if they have to drive a couple of hours, we're flying halfway across the world to be there. We'd love to meet them.Lesley Logan 7:39  We're actually driving all the way to Essex. Brad Crowell 7:42  We, we are, we are driving. We're driving all the way up to Scotland and all the way back down to Essex.Lesley Logan 7:48  Yes and we don't even drive on that side of the road. So you can get on a train.Brad Crowell 7:53  We'll be driving for more than 20 hours in the U.K.Lesley Logan 7:55  You can fly from Europe to see us. Okay?Brad Crowell 7:59  I agree. Lesley Logan 7:59  No excuses. Brad Crowell 8:00  Go to opc.me/uk opc.me/uk and then in October, we're going to be at Pilates On Tour in Chicago, in Burr Ridge. Lesley Logan 8:11  Burr Ridge. It's in Chicago Land, specifically, Brad. And do you know what's really funny is, people are like there's no such thing as Chicago Land. But then Rachel Maddow goes, I love Chicago because it has this thing called Chicago Land. And I was like, it's a thing. We'll be in Burr Ridge. It's the sexiest part of Chicago. You know it. Anyways, last week, so, last week, when we recorded this, so a month ago, more than a month ago, it was 75% sold out. So don't wait to get your tickets. Like, you can get a day pass. You can get a weekend pass. Brad Crowell 8:38  I mean, there might only be those left. Lesley Logan 8:40  Yeah. So the day pass, I'm teaching the Joe's Gyms. We're gonna have a booth. Yeah, it's also our 10th year wedding anniversary, so come celebrate with us. Brad Crowell 8:48  Oh, actually, literally, that weekend. Lesley Logan 8:49  Uh-huh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the first, first time we'll get on a plane while the time changes, and we miss it all together. So, so check it out. Just Google POT Chicago, and the link is way too long. They didn't give us a short one. Then we're going to be in Cambodia, and you can join us go to crowsnestretreats.com. I mean, you can literally sign up even as close to two weeks before the retreat, because it's Cambodia.Brad Crowell 8:49  Or if you're coming from Singapore or Australia, it's really easy, you know, yeah, we'd love to come have you. Come join us at crowsnestretreats.com.Lesley Logan 9:18  Also October, because my team just thinks I'll just work every day. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. There's days off, don't worry. There's days off. We are going on making a Singapore event happen, because it's very rare that we have a layover during the daytime. So we have a layover during the daytime, and so we can do an event at Singapore. So reach out to us about that. And then our winter tour is going to be in December. It's going to be humongous and we'll announce this in the fall. Brad Crowell 9:43  Yes, it is, this one's going to be even bigger than last year, and I'm already we're already planning it right now, in the summer, we're already planning it. We're going to be opening the doors to all that stuff in October, so. Lesley Logan 9:57  While we're, while we're off around the world, you can be signing up for that winter tour, so make sure you watch out for that. Okay, before we get into Sarah Rhoads, we have a question to answer. Brad Crowell 10:08  We sure did. Yeah, this is from a friend, Hilary Billings. She DM-ed you and said hey, do you like your weight vest? Needing to get one but I can't figure out what size or configuration would make most sense for me. I also don't want to look ridiculous, but I think I might just have to get over that.Lesley Logan 10:23  Yeah, so I do have a link to, here's the deal, it's not a, it's not a sexy company. You're gonna have to buy it on Amazon. But I have the link to the one I like, so.Brad Crowell 10:32  We'll put that in the show notes. Lesley Logan 10:33  Check the show notes. Okay, I think. Brad Crowell 10:36  Why do you like the one that one? What is it about it that makes it, I know we've gone through a couple.Lesley Logan 10:41  Yeah, so we're going back to the one I like, because the one that I have, I don't, I don't like the one that I have currently, and that's what I told her, so I like the one I had before, but I traded with Sue, because her husband bought her a 20-pound vest. She's not 100 pounds, guys. So, so here's the information about a weighted vest. You want one that's around 10% maybe 15% of your body weight, okay, so that's what you want. And there's a company that is called, like, Omorpho, and I'm trying to get. Brad Crowell 11:10  Is this the one that you shared with her? Lesley Logan 11:12  I tried to note I didn't share that with her. I try, I have an affiliate to that, and I don't like the vests are sexy and they're useless. It is two pounds or four pounds for women, and then six or eight pounds for men, what? And they're $300 so don't buy that one until I tell you to which is when they I said oh, I'll promote your vest when you have a weighted vest that actually makes sense with science. So it's beautiful, sexy, not ridiculous-looking, a waste of $300 and it doesn't even do what you need to do. So the vest that I like honestly, between the weight that you're getting, it's like between $30 and $60 it's not expensive. Where I think people have to be considerate is if they have chest abundance, if you have chest abundance, you might want to look at the one that I currently have, which I couldn't find online, but I'll tell you what it looks like. It has bungee cords on the sides. I think it's a men's one. It has bungee cords on the side so it works and it's longer. So if you have boobs, because the bungee cords can be loosened, and because it's longer, it can go across the boobs, yes. The one that we'll put in the link to the show notes, is the one I like. I can't, I can't attest to the chest abundance, because I don't have it. But why I like it is, it's actually short, more like a crop, and so it's not going all in on my lower back. I didn't, I don't like that, because my lower back then sweats. It's, it is the weight feels more distributed around my whole body. This one that I have just feels like it's very much on my shoulders. But maybe it's because I don't have boobs. Maybe if I had boobs. Brad Crowell 12:43  No, I think it's also that it's too heavy. Lesley Logan 12:44  It's also mine's too heavy. It's 20 pounds, and I really should be on a 16 pound weighted vest. So, Brad, congratulations, you have a vest, and that's exactly what you wanted. Brad Crowell 12:53  It's more than 10% of my body weight, so. Lesley Logan 12:56  20 pounds, it is. It's like, yeah, it is, unfortunately. I don't know who's gonna get it, but, but I'm new with a 16 pound one, I would say, like most people, should start with that 12 to 15 pound, if that's 10% if you're like, oh, that sounds really heavy. 15 pounds, start with a 10 to 12. You can all they'll last forever. Just give them to a friend who wants to start it like it just make, create an exchange, like a book club, you know. But check the show notes. I really like wearing mine on morning walks, because here's the deal, my dog walks now that I have a whoop man, that shows me how literally useless a dog walk is on your health. Like, of course, it's lovely. It's nice you're outside. Brad Crowell 13:35  But you are getting steps so there's movement actually. Lesley Logan 13:36  And you're getting steps. It's so great for that second heart, but it is doing zero on the strain that you can put on your body. And so adding the weight vest kind of intensifies the walk by about 15% so if you are looking for adding that intensity, maybe you're a really busy person, it's really good. Apparently, there is some science around how it's really good if you are perimenopausal, menopausal, and increasing bone density, strength, like that, all those things, I can't tell you, but Dr. Mclaire has done a post about it. And then there's a guy, something Easter, Adam or David Easter, he's in a whole post about it. So if you're really curious, take a look at those things. But I just personally like it because it really challenged me to sit up really tall. I can't. Brad Crowell 14:03  It kind of forces you to you can't be leaning over when you got a weighted vest on. You can't be slouching. You feel it. Lesley Logan 14:23  You should wear a weighted vest while it's pod, maybe I won't move all around the place, driving Brad crazy.Brad Crowell 14:27  I don't believe it. All right. Well, if you have a question, you could text us at 310-905-5534, or if you don't want to text, you can just go to beitpod.com/questions and you could submit either a win or your question. Lesley Logan 14:41  And we want your wins. Brad Crowell 14:42  We do want your wins because of our Friday episode, share something that you're really proud of yourself for, you know, like, it's, don't worry, it's not bragging.Lesley Logan 14:50  If you're like, I can't do it, then share a friend's win, and then you'll crack the seal, and then you can share your own,Brad Crowell 14:55  Yeah, let's go, let's go. Pull out your phone right now. Go to beitpod.com/questions. Lesley Logan 14:55  Your win can literally be that you took a walk this morning. Brad Crowell 14:59  Yeah, I want to see, I want to see some wins next week.Lesley Logan 15:05  If you've ever woken up on the wrong side of the bed, it's like, and then you go for the walk, like, the win is that you didn't let that keep you from, like, making the day a better day, just saying.Brad Crowell 15:15  You got this. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this amazing convo you have with Sarah Rhoads about some really cool shoes that she's been making. Brad Crowell 15:24  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Sarah Rhoads. Sarah is a photographer-turned-entrepreneur and the founder of Commbi Footwear. After a successful career shooting for top brands like Keds and building a creative campaign, building creative campaigns with her husband, she made a bold pivot into footwear design to solve a problem she's personally faced. Together, she and her husband developed a modular supported shoe system. Even taught himself AutoCAD to help to prototype their designs, and we're gonna talk more about it because they're fun. But Sarah is actually a mom of three and a firm believer in curiosity and alignment. Her story is a master class in vision, grit and reinvention, and it was a really fun conversation. Yeah, she's very bubbly. Lesley Logan 16:11  I just like her. She's also adorbs. I hope to meet her in person. So these shoes came on my radar. And I like, you know, if you listen to this pod long enough, you know, like, I love to be cookied. I just think it's the greatest thing. Because, like, sometimes you want something but you don't know you like that. You don't want to buy it right now, and sometimes you wanted to see it a few times to see, like, do I really want this? Like, do I miss it? So anyways, I'd interviewed the Gait Happens people, and they, like, slammed on our Birkenstocks, and it was like, a B minus. Brad Crowell 16:34  It wasn't a slam. Lesley Logan 16:35  Well, it was a B minus. Brad. Brad Crowell 16:38  I listened to that episode, she said, she said. Lesley Logan 16:43  B minus. Brad Crowell 16:43  She said they're not, they're not the best, they're not the worst. It was a B, in the B.Lesley Logan 16:48  But also, it was a B minus. Brad Crowell 16:49  She said that the problem with them was that they're too stiff, they really help with forming your foot, but then, like, there's never any give, so it's training your foot not to actually work. Lesley Logan 16:59  Right So they actually are not doing the things that they say they're gonna do. So then I saw Commbi, and I saw these girls doing these ads, like how they wear them and how they use them, I was like, wow, that's really cool. I think this could solve the world's problems on, like, the footwear thing. And also they're much cuter, right? They're like, not so they're much sexier. Brad Crowell 17:16  But what makes, why Commbi? What is Commbi about Commbi?Lesley Logan 17:16  But then I so, anyways, so then I ordered a pair. Okay, so order a pair during the winter, ordered some sandals, ordered the pair, and then I took a picture with them. And I, oh, I actually, I asked a question. I said, oh, when are the shearlings gonna come back? And the owner, Sarah, DM-ed me right away. Hi. This is the owner. We're out of stock on those right now. But like, here, I'll get back to you da-da. And I was like, whoa. She does her DMs like, I do my DMs. I like this person as a person, right like, now, now I'm past the company. Now I'm into the person. Then I got the shoes, took a picture in Palm Springs, and she's like, oh my gosh. She started chatting back and forth. And then I was like, looking at her story, and I'm like, I want her on the Be It Pod, because, like, if this isn't a be it till you see it story, like, I don't know what is, right, like, she's not a shoe person, she's not podiatrist, she's a photographer, and she, like, created a shoe. So now, what is what is it? I mean.Brad Crowell 18:13  Why is it called Commbi? Who? What? That's a weird name for the shoe, unless you understand what the shoe can do. Lesley Logan 18:19  So speak so to answer, why was I asking about shearling? Because you can take the sh, you know how, like, Uggs have that, like, shearling bed, and then you wear it a few times, and then it gets matted and nasty. Well, her shoe, you can take that shearling bed out, and you could put a terry cloth bed in. You could put. Brad Crowell 18:36  It's the bed of the shoe. Lesley Logan 18:36  The bed of the shoe. Brad Crowell 18:36  The bed, the sole of the shoe splits in two, and the bottom of shoe stays, and then the sole itself, the inside of the shoe can come off.Lesley Logan 18:47  If you, like, there's, there's definitely something in the 80s fashion that, like, this is absolutely something we've done, like, it's like a mix and match, it's a combination, right? Like, the mix and you can mix and match the beds of the of the shoe. And now I have like, five beds, and I mix and match them all the time. In fact, the last DM we have because I had a fly to Stockton for like 17 hours. And for flight, I wore the terry cloth because, you know, like, sometimes you're hot, sometimes you're cold. So I wore the terry cloth took the beds out, threw them in my purse. I only had an overnight bag because I was wearing the same outfit twice. Put the red the red leather beds in look dressy for the dinner party. Went back to my hotel, put the red leather up, put it in my purse, put the terry cloth on, flew home and nice and comfort like a slipper. So anyways, like I'm just obsessed, and she's so cool. So let's talk about her, because it's not an ad for her shoe. We make no money on them. Brad Crowell 19:39  That's true. Lesley Logan 19:40  She said, when my curiosity really is piqued and I feel scared and terrified, I usually know that as a thing I need to go after, and I resonate with that so much like we resist, like what we resist will persist, and like you have to kind of go through the fear to get to where you want to go. And she highlighted the hardest part of her pivot was getting over her self-limiting beliefs. I mean, like, can you imagine, like, being a photographer, a very established photographer, like fucking Taylor Swift, guys, Keds, all this stuff, and she's like, I'm gonna do my own shoe. And like, products are so hard. Product business is so hard.Brad Crowell 20:17  She said she flew to China to meet with her the manufacturing company, and there was a problem with the design, and so she bought a one-way ticket because she said I'm not coming back until we've figured out the solution. Lesley Logan 20:33  Yeah, yeah. So, because the and.Brad Crowell 20:36  By the way, most shoes are made in China. That's where all the factories are for this kind of stuff, same with socks.Lesley Logan 20:48  Everything is made there, so. Except for our flashcards apparently,Brad Crowell 20:48  Well, we could. We have the choice. Lesley Logan 20:48  We have the choice. Brad Crowell 20:46  We do have a company in Florida for those. But. Lesley Logan 20:48  Yeah, there are, like, some clothing brands that we've had Ripley Rader on, and there's some other ones that they can make their clothes in the US. However, you need to understand that there's not a single zipper made in the United States.Brad Crowell 20:58  Right. So, like, parts of it are still being imported. And like, yeah.Lesley Logan 21:02  Yeah. But, but she, I want to just keep going. Like she just the perseverance and like, she put a quote on her iPhone lock screen that says what if you have what it takes? And I really love this. I like, need it somewhere I can see it all the time. What if you have what it takes? And so I think, like, what she kind of obsesses about is like, I'm deeply curious about what the edges of my ability, what am I capable of? Brad Crowell 21:25  What are the edges? Lesley Logan 21:26  What are the edges? And to find that out, I have to go to the edge of my fear and look over it. And I think like to to for you first all to be it till we see it, it's going to require us to face our fear and look at it and believe we have what it takes. Because you gotta dress for who you wanna be, you gotta act for who you wanna be, you gotta make decisions for who you wanna be, even though you're not there yet.Brad Crowell 21:48  I bet you that. So, so I relate to this in the sense of, like, being on stage, and you know, when you're on stage as a big group, you can hide. When you're on stage and you're the front, at the front, it, you can't hide. And or if you're the only person you know, and I bet you that most Pilates teachers who have done a group class the first few times were really intimidating, right? Where you have to be up in front of a bunch of people speaking, right? And at first that was probably like, something that that was a little bit scary, but over time, you start to get through it right. And that, I think that's the kind of fear that she was talking about that like, you know, one thing that I really loved, that she said was, everything is working out for my greater good. Everything is working out for us, right? She and her husband, they say this daily to themselves, especially when challenges show up. This is like their their mantra, and they they genuinely believe that this helps to shift the focus away from the challenges that are impacting their businesses, which always happen, always. Challenges just seem to come by, right? So, but when you're focusing on the positive, that's one of the things that we that we challenge all of our members inside of Agency as well. Hey, when you're going to ask a question about a problem you have before you do that, you have to celebrate a win or to tell something that you're grateful for, right? And the reason is the same here. When you focus that everything is working out for us, everything is working out for my greater good, when you focus on those things, you're more apt to see those things when you when you say to yourself, everything is shit. I hate it all, you're just going to see all the things that are shit. You hate it all. We talked about this before. I can't remember what episode, but it was like, count the number. Like, if you say, if you look at something blue, and you say, blue, right? You look at blue and look at red.Lesley Logan 23:26  Oh, that's actually an episode that's coming out. It's Brad Bizjack. I don't think he we talked about that. Brad Crowell 23:31  No, no, yeah, but you and I talked about it before. And, like, all of a sudden, you know, you start to see all the things that are red, or all the things that are blue, because you've focused on them. So it's the same exact idea here. And I just, I love that. I think it's great, you know. And she said that, you know, the other thing with, with being an entrepreneur, she said, sometimes you tackle something and it doesn't, it seems like a dud. Oh, I started this whole conversation with these people about this thing, and then nothing ever came to it, or, you know, whatever, whatever. And, like, you know, it seems like, where do I put my time and all the things? And she said, hey, everything leads to everything. Everything leads to everything, right? So being part of an entrepreneur is being someone who has an appetite for adventure, being, you know, being willing to explore. She said, there's no trail, no map, you're just kind of in the woods with the machete, right? And it's you're out there trying to figure it all out. And every time you make a new connection, you know, you might not have any like, reciprocation from that action today, but there will, you know, like, eventually things can are connected. It comes back. Lesley Logan 24:30  Also, like sometimes, like just having a conversation that hits a dead end, allows you to get more comfortable with an idea that you might have had fear around. And then when you have it with a different person, you have a whole different perspective, because you it's not the first time you're voicing it. I always tell some of our Agency members, I was like, I taught a woman, she took a first time session with me during a time that a client was on vacation, so I didn't normally have that time. The client's only on vacation for one week, but she she came in for a first time session, and none of my other times worked out for her. And so I actually had to refer her to a friend. But do you want to know something? Love me so much. She sent me a ton of clients. Everything is everything. So she didn't, and why didn't she send to my friend who she took one, I don't know, but she sent me them. And the point is, like, don't go oh, I'm not gonna teach that person. I'm not gonna take that because, like, I'm only available this one time. It's like, just go have the conversation. You can always be like, that was really cool. Here's this other person, like, I'm someone who, like, sometimes sets to hermit. I get a little overwhelmed. So I totally understand if you're like, I don't want to go do that, but like, you have to say it's to all of the things. But try it. Try just going like, you know, if you normally say no to 80% of opportunities, maybe, maybe say yes to like, 35% and just like start to get warmed up with that muscle and have some fun with it, because it does lead to everything.Brad Crowell 25:46  Everything leads to everything. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we got more gold coming down from Sarah Rhoads, in the Be It Action Items. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 25:56  All right, welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Sarah Rhoads? She said stick with it. Stick it out, right? And you two are having this really fun conversations about, you know, the overnight success of the actor and like, having lived in Los Angeles, we are very aware that, like, it's a slow, long road to it's very, very rare that someone is like an overnight success in the real sense of that.Lesley Logan 26:30  There's a really cool book that's that I just heard about where this, I forget the name won't come to me, but he literally, like the little like the tagline is, like, my 20 years to overnight success.Brad Crowell 26:40  Right, exactly. Yeah. I mean, that's the joke, right? That's the running joke. And you were talking about behind the scenes, right? The building phase. It's truly one of the hardest phases, because no one can actually see what you're doing. And she said that they just launched their company last, end of last year, but they've been working on it for three, right? And she said.Lesley Logan 26:58  Oh, yeah. I mean, like, I saw the ads. I'm like, oh, my God, they're a huge company. She's DM-ing me and her husband emails customer support, so. Brad Crowell 27:06  They're both working. They answer everything, right? She said, it's really hard to do the work, the building phase work, and because, because no one around you can see the vision or the or the results of where it's going to be, where it's gonna go, and you have it in your head, right? And sometimes it's hard to convince other people that this is gonna be the thing. It's gonna be amazing, but, you know it will be, and that's, that's the thing. You have to trust yourself, right? She said, really good things are on the other side of the building phase of when you're able to finally open the doors, get, you know, launch your product, or introduce your book, or whatever it might be, like, the amount of prep time it takes to do it right, you know, you have to be able to believe in yourself and so.Lesley Logan 27:52  Yeah, I mean, I think the key thing, and I was like, oh, do you trust yourself? Like, do you? So she said, knowing deep in your soul that everything's working out for you, and knowing that anyone can do anything, what a be it, like, anyone can do anything. So why can't you do the thing you want to do? Because anyone can do anything. And she emphasized the importance of protecting autonomy pretty fiercely to avoid burnout. I'm gonna just say fiercely. Protect your autonomy fiercely. One of the reasons I see people burn out is they don't protect their autonomy. They they are afraid of losing a client or of pissing off a friend, so they just say yes to all these things, and their schedule is not their own. Their schedule is being formed by other people's schedules. And it's like the whole idea, like, if you don't have goals, someone else has goals for you. If you don't protect your autonomy, someone else will make sure your schedule is theirs. It's how it's gonna go. Brad Crowell 28:38  It's true. Lesley Logan 28:42  She prioritizes self-care through specific regular habits. She's also part of an amazing book club, and she makes time for it, and I think that is so cool. She hikes and gets outside nature three days a week. She stays connected to make things that make her feel alive, not just what makes money. And she advised trusting yourself and believing yourself. So with that, trust keeps coming up. You guys, let me just remind you three children, and they're not older. When I asked her, I'm pretty sure they were, like, under 10. So like, young.Brad Crowell 29:10  The kids, yeah, I think the oldest, I'm pretty sure, actually, now I don't remember. But yeah, they're not old.Lesley Logan 29:15  I don't think not a single one of them can drive themselves anywhere. So here's what my point being like this is a mom and a business owner who works with her husband, and if she can protect her autonomy fiercely, you can do it. You can do it. Yes, it's hard. Yes, people are gonna get pissed off because you're changing the boundaries on them. You're changing the rules they will get over it because you're gonna be a funner person to be around. That's just what I think. Sarah Rhoads, you are amazing. I love you so much. I hope we can be friends.Brad Crowell 29:48  Me too.Lesley Logan 29:48  I hope she's, what if she's listening? Well, anyways, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 29:54  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:55  Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. Go check her out, and if anything, let her be an inspiration to what you can do. You can change your career anytime, because you're curious and you believe in yourself, and Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 30:08  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:10  Oh, we didn't tell. Brad Crowell 30:11  Oh, we got a secret for y'all. Lesley Logan 30:14  We have a secret. Brad Crowell 30:15  Yeah, we got a surprise. Lesley Logan 30:16  I don't know how. Don't let them go too way soon. You guys, Commbi has given us a secret discount code for you. BEIT10. Brad Crowell 30:25  BEIT10. Lesley Logan 30:26  Yeah, get 10% off your shoes. And if you're like, what? Yeah, no, she just gave it to me, and I love it. I've used it. I have four pairs already. Don't worry, I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna wear them all this weekend in L.A. They're so comfortable. I'm quite (inaudible).Brad Crowell 30:40  Clearly she said that they they are even making them for men. Lesley Logan 30:43  They have men's shoes. I showed them to you. Yes, I know we gotta, we gotta work them out, babe. Brad Crowell 30:46  We gotta work them out. Lesley Logan 30:48  We gotta get you switched over. Yeah, there's men's collection. Brad Crowell 30:52  They're pretty cool. Lesley Logan 30:53  They're really cool. Brad Crowell 30:54  Yeah, they look good. Lesley Logan 30:55  I, really obsessed. I literally wear them all the time. I don't even put, I like, I used to be a tennis shoes person always. Now I'm like, slipping on my Commbis to go outside to get the mail, because, holy fuck, the sidewalk is hot, so I gotta put them on. And I just love them. And my toe spacers from Gait Happens fit on my toes while I'm wearing my Commbis, which is essential. That's a couple plugs All right. Now you can go, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 31:20  See you next time, y'all.Lesley Logan 31:22  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 32:04  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 32:09  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 32:14  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 32:21  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 32:24  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Lesley Logan 32:37  Oh, it's, where's my phone? It's on Instagram. Brad Crowell 32:40  It's on the gram the Instagram.Lesley Logan 32:52  All right, I'm here. Brad Crowell 32:53  You're here. Lesley Logan 32:53  Can we go? Brad Crowell 32:54  Can just sit how you're gonna sit. Okay, you gonna sit over there, or you gonna sit on the other side? Where are you gonna sit? This isn't a merry go round. Lesley Logan 33:08  I'm gonna sit right here. We need a couch. Brad Crowell 33:11  I'm gonna adjust the sofa. This is the sofa. I've adjusted the sofa. Here we go. We do need a couch. That'd be fun. I'd love to change up our setup.Lesley Logan 33:22  I know I want to go to Joy Bird. I want one of their cute couches.Brad Crowell 33:26  I'd love to get, like, a wide shot and a. Joy Bird, what? Lesley Logan 33:31  Oh, look up Joy bird's couches, amazing.Brad Crowell 33:34  Well, we'll get there, but I want to actually, like make the lounge vibe. That'd be cool. Lesley Logan 33:38  Yeah, this is not the vibe anymore. Brad Crowell 33:40  Yeah, I'm in on change. All right, cool. Here we go.Lesley Logan 33:44  We could do wallpaper instead of this.Brad Crowell 33:48  We could, but I think we should actually have like, different backgrounds so that you could have one for Profitable Pilates, one for this, one for that.Lesley Logan 33:56  What if we did walls? What if this is the Be It wall that was the Profitable Pilates wall? Brad Crowell 33:56  And we just like, rotate, like. Lesley Logan 33:56  Yeah, we just rotate the chairs. Brad Crowell 34:12  Like the whole floor, like. Lesley Logan 34:14  Yeah, oh, they could just, like, press a button.Lesley Logan 34:22  No bad ideas on a brainstorm. Brad Crowell 34:24  She can't help herself. Literally cannot help herself. Lesley Logan 34:29  I'm ready. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Burr Ridge Mayor Gary Grasso joins John Williams to talk about his recent commentary in the Chicago Tribune that suggests that the extreme members of the Republican party are making it virtually impossible to win elections in Illinois.

Burr Ridge Mayor Gary Grasso joins John Williams to talk about his recent commentary in the Chicago Tribune that suggests that the extreme members of the Republican party are making it virtually impossible to win elections in Illinois.

Who is your favorite band? Is it Elvis? The Beatles? The Bee Gees? How about the Guns N' Roses? Foo Fighters? Linkin Park? Kings of Lion? Regardless, we all have a favorite band. And things are no different for Barbara & Patricia Grimes back in the 1950s. Only on their way home from a much-beloved film starring Elvis Presley, the biggest name of their era, these two teenagers failed to make curfew. Join Deb & Beth as we dig deep into the whereabouts of two teenage daughters, their mother's quest to find them, and a community's determination to find their killer(s).Find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Pinterest @Dying2BFound. You can find all of these links at: https://linktr.ee/dying2bfoundSubscribe, rate, and share our podcasts on Spotify, Apple & Google Podcasts, Stitcher, Pandora, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and wherever you get your podcasts!If you are interested in sponsoring this podcast or have a storyline you would like us to record, please email us at dying2bfound@gmail.com or message us on Instagram.If you like what you hear, please visit us at www.dyingtobefound.com to learn more about your hosts and our podcast, or consider buying us a coffee at https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dyingtobefound.Intro & Extro Music: Undersea World by DragonovTeachable Moments Music: Untold Story by Ballian De MoulleReferences:Bovsun, M. (2016). Sixty years later, the case of the Elvis Presley-loving Grimes sisters' murder remains cold. New York Daily News.Ely, A. (2021). Cold case files: The Grimes sisters. Penn State University.Frankie, C.M. (2020). The mysterious unsolved murders of sisters Barbara and Patricia Grimes. A&E Network.Hoover, M. (2019). Mark Hoover: Unsolved murders of Grimes sisters. The Clermont Sun.Johnson, R. (2012). Anniversary of Burr Ridge's link to unsolved 1956 Grimes sisters' murder. TribLocal.Keranen, K. (2019). ‘Chicago history cop” making headway in Grimes sisters' murder case. The Columbia Chronicle.Klakstrom, J. (2020). Who murdered the Grimes sisters? Medium.Shaffer, T. (1997). Death and the Maidens. Chicago Reader.The Grimes Sisters Murder Mystery. (2021). Medium.

Father Koys is back with us this week and he is happy to not only be on, but also accompanied by his good friend, returning guest, and the former mayor of Burr Ridge, IL , Mickey Straub, coming in through the fixed phone system.  Today, the two of them take another look back into history to examine and discuss a important person in history: Cardinal James Gibbons. https://ststanschurch.org/  Mickey Straub:  www.mickeystraub.com     

Gary Grasso, Mayor of Burr Ridge, joins Lisa Dent and Steve Bertrand on Chicago's Afternoon News to respond to the apology letter that was sent to Mayor Grasso from Governor J.B. Pritzker after 64 migrants were sent to Burr Ridge this week.

Burr Ridge Mayor Gary Grasso joins Jon Hansen to talk about migrants from Texas being bussed from Chicago to his suburb.

Burr Ridge Mayor Gary Grasso joins Jon Hansen to talk about migrants from Texas being bussed from Chicago to his suburb.

Burr Ridge Mayor Gary Grasso joins Jon Hansen to talk about migrants from Texas being bussed from Chicago to his suburb.

John Howell speaks with Mayor Gary Grasso of Burr Ridge after the unannounced busing of migrants to the village over the weekend. He is not against helping the migrants, he says, but he is pushing for more coordination in the future. Grasso also says we are all products of immigrants and we need better plans to help these migrants and treat them as humans. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Howell speaks with Mayor Gary Grasso of Burr Ridge after the unannounced busing of migrants to the village over the weekend. He is not against helping the migrants, he says, but he is pushing for more coordination in the future. Grasso also says we are all products of immigrants and we need better plans to help these migrants and treat them as humans. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Canadian and American healthcare systems are frequently compared, from either side of the border, with Canada's often lauded as superior largely due to its publicly funded nature. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a lot to learn from other healthcare models around the world. One area where the US can be considered a leader in comparison is the increasing growth of Birth Centers accessible around the states. But you may be wondering - what even is a Birth Center and who is it for? Join us on today's episode as Dr. Sarah chats with certified nurse midwife Sarah Stetina, and Director of Midwifery at the Burr Ridge Birth Center in Burr Ridge, Illinois. They discuss the different practices that have led to the emergence of Birth Centers and philosophies around providing the best maternity care, for patients such as yourself! To see an example of a Birth Center, check out the Burr Ridge Birth Center in Illinois or give them a follow on Instagram @brbirthcenter or on Facebook: Burr Ridge Birth Center.

The Canadian and American healthcare systems are frequently compared, from either side of the border, with Canada's often lauded as superior largely due to its publicly funded nature. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a lot to learn from other healthcare models around the world. One area where the US can be considered a leader in comparison is the increasing growth of Birth Centers accessible around the states. But you may be wondering - what even is a Birth Center and who is it for? Join us on today's episode as Dr. Sarah chats with certified nurse midwife Sarah Stetina, and Director of Midwifery at the Burr Ridge Birth Center in Burr Ridge, Illinois. They discuss the different practices that have led to the emergence of Birth Centers and philosophies around providing the best maternity care, for patients such as yourself! To see an example of a Birth Center, check out the Burr Ridge Birth Center in Illinois or give them a follow on Instagram @brbirthcenter or on Facebook: Burr Ridge Birth Center. 

Father Koys is back and he is joined by Mikey Straub, the former Mayor of Burr Ridge and once again, they are ready to wrinkle your brains.  This time, they take a look back into history again, surrounding certain Cardinals and Popes that dealt with what they call “ The American Experiment” back when America was forming into a nation.   https://ststanschurch.org/  Mikey Straub:  www.mickeystraub.com     

Father Koys once again returns to wrinkle our brains on today's topics.  His main focus today includes the former mayor of Burr Ridge, IL and guest of the show, Mikey Straub.  Along with Mikey's help, Father Koys they discuss much of what is going on in the government and raise some of the philosophical morals Father Koys has brought up on previous shows.     https://ststanschurch.org/  Mikey Straub:  www.mickeystraub.com         

You're listening to Lingo Phoenix's word of the day for May 4. Firefighters' Day Today's word is vehicle, spelled v-e-h-i-c-l-e. vehicle /ˈviːɪkəl/ noun [countable] formal a machine with an engine that is used to take people or things from one place to another, such as a car, bus, or truck Merriam-Webster: ˈvē-ə-kəl also ˈvē-ˌhi-kəl a description of the stolen vehicle Have you locked your vehicle? The vehicle's driver was severely injured in the crash. Antoine Norris, 24, of the 7800 block of South Woodlawn Avenue, Chicago, was cited for driving without a valid license, driving an uninsured vehicle and speeding south on the 8500 block of Lemont Road at 1:03 p.m. April 15. — Kimberly Fornek, chicagotribune.com, "Burr Ridge police blotter: Alsip driver charged with marijuana possession," 23 Apr. 2021 [usually singular] formal something you use to express and spread your ideas, opinions etc The 1936 Olympics were used as a vehicle for Nazi propaganda. The conference was seen as an ideal vehicle for increased cooperation between the member states. ‘Eastern Eye' is an important vehicle for Black British opinion. With your word of the day, I'm Mohammad Golpayegani. Join our Telegram channel @lingophoenix to make sure you never miss an episode of Lingo Phoenix's Word of the Day.

Susan and Dr. Elizabeth Bernardino talk about when to consider seeking services for your child from a psychiatrist. LINKS for Guest: Cypress Professional Group in Burr Ridge, IL (630) 325-4899LINKS for Show:FREE GUIDE: 15 Signs of Childhood Anxiety - Click here!FREE 5 Day Parenting Challenge - Click here!

Walk with Val 'the Voice" Johnson as she enters the Sunshine of Self-Care. Join Val as she celebrates her birthday at a day spa in suburban Chicago as a reminder that self-care isn't a luxury but an essential to maintain a healthy "you."

Looking for the best bathroom remodeling experts in Burr Ridge, IL? Call Dream Bath Solutions (630-394-3311) for the prompt and professional custom shower and tub replacement solutions you need! Go to https://dreambathsolutions.com (https://dreambathsolutions.com) for more information.

In other top stories: Judge denies request for new trial for actor Jussie Smollett; advocates for the blind move forward with accessibility suit against the city; driver charged in fatal hit-and-run in Burr Ridge; and more.

In other top stories: Judge denies request for new trial for actor Jussie Smollett; advocates for the blind move forward with accessibility suit against the city; driver charged in fatal hit-and-run in Burr Ridge; and more.

In other top stories: Judge denies request for new trial for actor Jussie Smollett; advocates for the blind move forward with accessibility suit against the city; driver charged in fatal hit-and-run in Burr Ridge; and more.

Kevin Kasper is from Burr Ridge, Illinois and attended Hinsdale South High School. After going being under recruited, he found his way to Iowa City and it turns out to be a fascinating story that Kevin tells. He eventually made his way into an impact role for the Hawkeyes, then beat the odds again in making multiple NFL teams and even winning a Superbowl with Tom Brady and the Patriots in 2004. Now he lives in PHX, AZ with his wife and 3 kids, all who have inherited some of Kevin's insane genetics, and even more importantly his elite work ethic and mindset which becomes ever so clear the reason for his long list of life successes. He talks about his training now, his diet, stories from the league, injuries, almost killing Drake in a workout, parenting, and speaks at length about his 16 yr old star football recruit of a son who has offers from a growing list of schools across the country. Enjoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's kick off summer with an interview with Dr. Rodney C. Dorsey, Director of Bands, Indiana University.Dr. Dorsey discusses his musical upbringing, building connections with students, competition in music, and warns us of the dangers of not ordering buses for our band.Special thanks to George Quinlan, Jr. for helping to set this interview up and for providing an interview space at Quinlan & Fabish in Burr Ridge, Illinois.FULL BIO from info.music.indiana.eduRodney Dorsey was previously director of bands and conductor of the Wind Ensemble at the University of Oregon. Prior to that, he was associate director of bands at the University of Michigan, where he conducted the Concert Band and the Michigan Youth Band and taught undergraduate conducting. He served previously on the faculties of DePaul and Northwestern universities, and gained extensive experience teaching in the public schools of Florida and Georgia. Dorsey studied conducting with James Croft, John P. Paynter, and Mallory Thompson. He was a clarinet student of Fred Ormand and Frank Kowalsky. Ensembles under Dorsey's direction have performed at several state and national events, including the College Band Directors National Association (CBDNA) Regional Conference and the Bands of America National Concert Band Festival. His numerous professional memberships include the CBDNA, National Association for Music Education, Midwest Clinic board of directors, and the American Bandmasters Association.

Gary Grasso is a laywer, former Mayor of Burr Ridge and a candidate for the Republican nomination for Illinois Attorney General. He joined Dan and Amy to explain why he is the right choice for the GOP. CNN Senior Economist Stephen Moore joined Dan and Amy with reaction to Gary Cohn’s exit as President Trump’s top economic adviser. Plus, Jason Hanson is a former CIA officer. He joined Dan and Amy to talk about his new book “Survive Like A Spy: Real CIA Operatives Reveal How They Stay Safe in a Dangerous World & How You Can Too” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A gunman opened fire on thousands of concertgoers jamming the Las Vegas Strip, killing at least 50, wounding 400 more and prompting chaos as the panicked crowd scrambled for cover or simply ducked to avoid the onslaught from the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. Plus, Mickey Straub, the Mayor of Burr Ridge has announced that he will challenge Illinois House Republican leader Jim Durkin in the election next year. He joined Dan and Amy to talk about what prompted his decision.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.