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How do you embrace slow living when the world demands speed? Lesley and Brad reflect on Lesley's interview with author and slow living advocate Stephanie O'Dea. They explore how intention, structure, and seasonal living can create a more fulfilling life. This episode is a reminder that it's okay to go at your own pace and that it might be the key to your peace.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Why structure and routine are key for creating freedom.How living with intention helps reduce overwhelm.What seasonal living looks like and why it works.How guilt and people-pleasing get in the way of presence.Small steps to start building a slower, more values-aligned life.Episode References/Links:eLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tourLA Tour - https://opc.me/laBalanced Body - https://www.pilates.comUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comSubmit Your Questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsStephanie O'Dea's Website - https://stephanieodea.comFree Daily Journaling Worksheet - stephanieodea.com/dailySlow Living Podcast - https://stephanieodea.com/podcastBook: The Messy Middle by Scott Belsky - https://a.co/d/6f2NCI7 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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And unfortunately, when you skip ahead, you miss out on like the muscle strength and experience you need for where you're going to go. So then when you get there, not only are you further along than you are strong enough to be, but now you don't have the skill set to handle the problems you have. Lesley Logan 0:18  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:01  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the sustainable convo I had with Stephanie O'Dea in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened that episode, you need to, as part of a slow living request, you got to go rush over and just make it.Brad Crowell 1:17  Just rush right now, get over there. Lesley Logan 1:20  Do not pass go. You gotta listen to it. She's so great. She's so fun. I got to be on her podcast as well. But also she's like, a famous, like, slow-cooking person, like she's.Brad Crowell 1:30  Yeah, Crock-Pot. Lesley Logan 1:31  Just the famous Crock-Pot. Brad Crowell 1:33  Not insta-pot. Lesley Logan 1:33  Yeah, no. Brad Crowell 1:34  She was very upset about the Instant Pot. Lesley Logan 1:37  She was and we were really in on the insta-pot, but we got off the insta-pot, we like made soup.Brad Crowell 1:44  Yeah, still do occasionally. It's good times. Lesley Logan 1:47  Just whenever we're home when it's soup weather. Speaking of what day today is, today is June 19th 2025 and it's Juneteenth here in the United States. The freedom of African Americans from slavery in the U.S. in 1865 is celebrated on the holiday Juneteenth on June 19th. Juneteenth is made up of the words June and 19th. Brad Crowell 2:06  Case you didn't know.Lesley Logan 2:08  Just, whoever writes these, it's always just the explanation of the day, using the day you can't. Brad Crowell 2:15  It's celebrated every year on this day. Lesley Logan 2:17  Yes, yes. And it is on this day that Major General Gordon Granger, wow, arrived in Texas, more than 155 years ago, to inform slaves that slavery had been abolished. Today is also.Brad Crowell 2:31  Yeah, well I just want to comment on that because, because they just ignored the messengers and they were like, nah, we're good. We're gonna keep doing.Lesley Logan 2:41  Not the slaves, the bad people. Brad Crowell 2:43  Yeah, the slavers. They were like, yeah, we're just gonna keep going. And then they, they sent, well, actually, I don't, I actually, don't know who first, who came first. It's possible that Gordon Granger got there to make the initial announcement, and then later it had to be enforced.Lesley Logan 3:01  Yeah, this is something that the day didn't give us information on. And I feel like I've read about, here's what I do, every Juneteenth I actually read about it and I find myself appalled that this happened. And then also, of course, it didn't, and also the time we're recording this. Brad Crowell 3:15  Also, of course it did what? Lesley Logan 3:16  I said at the time that we're recording this. Brad Crowell 3:18  No, no, before that you said. Lesley Logan 3:19  Of course, it did, of course, bad things. Of course it happened because they're shitty people. Of course it happened. But on this time that we are recording this, because the day after a very, very huge slave, like the largest slave sugar plantation, slave house burned to the ground, it was turned into a wedding venue, and so people are having those antebellum weddings, and it's like humongous tons of rooms like but was one of the worst slave places in Louisiana, and it burned to the ground. And I have to say, people are celebrating the fuck out of it online. And I have no problems with that. In fact, I have why I like was celebrating and smiling with them every reel of every person, like dancing and going, oh, do you need some water? And then pouring away from the fire. I was like, yes, yes to all of it. Because, I mean, I just, it's just, it's bad. So anyways, please make sure that you are honoring Juneteenth today. Take some time to read up on it. If you didn't know about it. We obviously still have some learning to do, but it's an important day. Brad Crowell 4:25  Remember this general. Major General. Lesley Logan 4:27  Yeah, Major General Gordon Granger. Brad Crowell 4:30  That's a mouthful. Lesley Logan 4:30  That is a mouthful. I mean, his parents didn't name him Major General, so.Brad Crowell 4:37  Fortunately for his parents. Lesley Logan 4:38  What if he become a ranger? Then he'd be Ranger Granger. Brad Crowell 4:42  Major General Gordon Granger Ranger. Lesley Logan 4:44  No, he would have just been a ranger. It would have been Ranger Granger. All right, today is also the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict for everyone else there, out there in the world. So we wanted to, because it's an international show and so on this International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict is observed every year on June 19th to raise awareness about sexual violence and conflict and to strategize ways to end these crimes throughout the world. On June 19th 2015, United Nations General Assembly proclaimed the date as the International Day for the Elimination of Sexual Violence and Conflict. This date commemorates the adoption of Security Council Resolution 1820 in which the Council condemned sexual violence as a tactic of war and an impediment to peace building. Yeah, wow. Brad Crowell 5:31  Yeah, this one's heavy. Lesley Logan 5:32  It's a heavy day. Brad, these are heavy. Brad Crowell 5:35  Yeah. I mean, you know, like, I listen to a lot of deep dive interviews about the conflicts in Europe, you know, and then a. Lesley Logan 5:45  Oh, it's terrible what they do. Brad Crowell 5:46  In the Middle East and in Africa. And, you know, like they're using rape as a tool of war in. Lesley Logan 5:54  So many countries. Brad Crowell 5:55  In the Ukraine, you know, in, in, it's historically.Lesley Logan 6:01  Yeah, it's happening. It's happened. It's happened for centuries and it happens everywhere, and it is horrifying. So I think it's, think it's, I can't believe it took till 2015 for the world to be like, this is a bad thing. Brad Crowell 6:16  Well, I mean, it's been, you know, it's a war crime. It's been war crime for a really long time. But yeah, maybe just this, you know, the day bringing awareness to it. Lesley Logan 6:27  Do you know who then, who gets to be the court for war crimes, like, who does it? Brad Crowell 6:33  Yeah. So there's the International Criminal Court, the ICC. Lesley Logan 6:37  Oh. Brad Crowell 6:37  Yeah and we're not a part of it, we don't honor the ICC as the United States of America, which is a complicated political decision. Lesley Logan 6:47  We are winning. We are winning in the history books right now, guys. Well, you know what? I think we need to bring this day up a little bit. So first of all, I think Juneteenth is like a positive holiday, right? Brad Crowell 7:04  Yeah, Juneteenth is a positive holiday. I think that it's important to remember, but also it's a day of celebration. So, love that. Lesley Logan 7:12  Okay. And. Brad Crowell 7:13  We can talk more about the ICC later, y'all, if you're really interested.Lesley Logan 7:16  I don't think anyone came here. We'll get Brad his own segment at the end. Brad Crowell 7:21  I listen to a lot of this kind of stuff, and, you know, it's interesting, it's interesting why we chose not to be, you know, part of it, but also we still. Lesley Logan 7:30  Well, because we would be in trouble for war crimes all the time. Brad Crowell 7:32  We would be in trouble for war crimes. That's right.Lesley Logan 7:34  Yes, that's right, okay, but you know what's happening that's going to be more fun than all this talk? July.Brad Crowell 7:42  Slow living. Lesley Logan 7:44  July 9th, we are hosting, wait, oh, we are doing this. Yes, okay. Brad Crowell 7:50  Yeah, this is actually happening. Lesley Logan 7:52  Okay, but there's a few things going on and July is very busy. Brad Crowell 7:54  July is a busy month for us. Lesley Logan 7:54  So, so it's June right now, obviously, Juneteenth, but July 9th, I am hosting an eLevate workout and Q&A. So if you're a Pilates instructor, this is a free workout. It's a way to get your questions about eLevate, my mentorship, answered. You can hear from people who've done eLevate and why they like it and why you should do it, because you shouldn't take it from me. You can take it from the people who've been part of it. So you want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist. Then on July 17th, we are doing an Agency Mini. Guess we are bringing it back for Pilates instructors and studio owners. Brad Crowell 8:30  Yeah, that's exciting. Lesley Logan 8:30  If you remember, we used to, up until last year, do it a little week long coaching program for Pilate instructors and studio owners. And we loved it, and it was amazing, and then we stopped doing it, and we're like, we're never doing it again, because it was there's parts of it that were amazing, were amazing, and some of the parts were overwhelming, and they were overwhelming. Brad Crowell 8:48  Yeah, not just for us, but also for the attendees. Lesley Logan 8:51  Mostly, for, yeah, it was less about there's less about us, more, so we have been working behind the scenes on making some amazing changes, and now we have a new Mini. Brad Crowell 9:01  We've got a mini Mini, but we're just still calling it Mini, yeah, but yeah, it's only three days, not seven. Lesley Logan 9:06  Yes. And you get all the best parts of Mini, which is a workshop on how to actually attract clients you want to work with. Then you get to use Lesley on Demand, this amazing tool. So we'll help you with your I Help statement. And then you get to join office hours with Brad and I, includes breath work, and we're going to answer all the running questions about your business on this call. It's so much fun. You can see if Agency is right for you, but also you can get questions answered. And, you know, take that information with you. Brad Crowell 9:31  Just come party about your biz. It's gonna be good. Go to prfit.biz/mini prfit.biz/mini yeah.Lesley Logan 9:39  And then July, yeah, I believe we actually start on the 24th but maybe we start on the 25th Don't ask me. We start end of July, and we go to August 17th, and it's the OPC Summer Tour. You're gonna go to opc.me/tour to get your tickets for and see the cities we're going to. We are going up.Brad Crowell 9:58  We teach in Phoenix on the 25th So we could go down on the 24th.Lesley Logan 10:01  Oh, okay, cool. You know, we'll do whatever. Maybe we'll go to the Oatman Ranch and we'll go play with the donkeys. Brad Crowell 10:08  I don't remember that. ILesley Logan 10:10  Yeah, I told you about it. I told you about it. Brad Crowell 10:12  Oatman. Lesley Logan 10:12  I think it's called Oatman. Um, anyways, um, you guys, we're gonna start in Phoenix, and we go to San Diego, then it's Los Angeles, and it's Santa Barbara, and then maybe a city in between, and then San Francisco, and then Sacramento, and then Eureka, and then Portland and Seattle, Vancouver, yes, you just heard Vancouver, Canada, and then Kamloops, Canada and Calgary, Canada. And then we're gonna come down into Idaho and Utah. Brad Crowell 10:42  We're gonna swing through Montana for a bit. We want to see glacier. Lesley Logan 10:45  Well, for vacation, yeah, so, but, you know. Brad Crowell 10:48  We'll be posting about a coffee shop and white fish, probably. Lesley Logan 10:52  Yeah. Well, at any rate, you want to go to opc.me/tour to snag your tickets. And by the way, we end in Las Vegas, and that class already sold out. Brad Crowell 10:59  I know it's insane. I can't believe it. Bam. Lesley Logan 11:02  24 hours. Class sold out. We already have. Brad Crowell 11:03  20 seats in. Lesley Logan 11:04  Yeah. Brad Crowell 11:05  That's. Lesley Logan 11:06  Well, we did tell them if they wanted us to come, and they did. Yeah, yeah, opc.me/tour of course, we are sponsored again by Balanced Body and Contrology. We're bringing our Contrology equipment. It's gonna be so much fun. Then in September we are going to be in the U.K. We have two amazing stops, Leeds and Essex. Leeds, you can get two day pass there. There's only three spots left, so. Brad Crowell 11:31  Only three spots left in Leeds. Lesley Logan 11:33  At the time that we're recording. So we're recording this, obviously, before Juneteenth, so you never know. And then in Essex, we actually opened up the day passes, because we're doing Essex on a Tuesday and a Wednesday. So you could do an all day Tuesday. Brad Crowell 11:44  You'll come out for the day from the city. Lesley Logan 11:46  All day Wednesday. We know it's not easy to get two days away during the week, but also it's really hard to get away on the weekends, so we offered you two options, during the weekend, on the weekends, opc.me/uk that's where you want to go. And then, of course, in October and come with us to Cambodia. Holy moly, we are insanity. Have you heard this, this schedule, and then he wanted to take me camping in here, guys. Brad Crowell 12:08  Oh, we're going. Lesley Logan 12:08  We're going camping, apparently. Brad Crowell 12:10  Yeah, we're going camping somewhere in there. Lesley Logan 12:11  Very expensive storage that we live in sometimes. So Cambodia. Brad Crowell 12:16  Oh, you mean our house?Lesley Logan 12:17  Yeah, I love it so much. But Cambodia is you'll have, you'll be at our house in Cambodia, and we do retreat, stuff and workshops and temple tours. Brad Crowell 12:28  Oh men, it's just gonna be amazing. Lesley Logan 12:30  So go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. The plural is on the crows and the retreats, but not the nest. So there you go. All right, before we got to get to Stephanie, but before we get there, Brad, do we have a question to answer?Brad Crowell 12:44  We do @creativesoulpilates on Instagram asked, hey LL, are you coming down to the IE anytime soon? IE is Inland Empire, which is Southern California. Basically, it's between Los Angeles and Riverside so, or I think actually, I think actually, Riverside is also considered IE.Lesley Logan 13:04  I think that Riverside is the IE, is it also, is Covina the IE? Brad Crowell 13:07  Covina and West Covina, I think they're south of L.A. I don't think they're technically IE. Lesley Logan 13:12  Like the Orange County. Brad Crowell 13:13  Closer to Orange County, I believe. Lesley Logan 13:14  Well, anyways. Brad Crowell 13:16  If I'm wrong, hit me. Let me know. Lesley Logan 13:20  If you all want to know L.A. well, go watch Everybody's in L.A. Just watch, at least the first episode. Brad Crowell 13:25  You know what, I'm 1,000% wrong. Covina is directly south of Glendora and Azusa, so it's where the 15 cuts down. Nope, it's not the 15. So it's towards Pomona. It's the beginning of IE, West Covina and Covina are like the beginning of the San Bernardino Valley, I think.Lesley Logan 13:46  Well, at any rate, to answer your question, we are not going to be anywhere near the IE, we are going to be in Toluca Lake. I guess that's not far from the IE, but it is. We are going to be, basically, we're in the valley of Los Angeles, close to Burbank. Right? Toluca Lake is like Burbank. Brad Crowell 14:01  Toluca Lake is Studio City, Burbank. It's between the two near Van Nuys, like, yeah. Lesley Logan 14:07  It's gonna be on our West Coast Pop Up Tour. Brad Crowell 14:09  I'm so excited. Lesley Logan 14:10  I know. Brad Crowell 14:11  I freaking love Los Angeles so much, and I cannot wait to just be back. Like, I literally used to live, like, two streets that were from where the studio is.Lesley Logan 14:20  Well, and also, for years, we're actually using the studio that we did the Accessories Flash Card photo shoot at. So I actually got to live in this part of L.A. for a week and now I can say I lived in that part of the valley. It's really, really fun. So we had Strong Body, but it's part of our summer tour. And so you got to come, because here's the deal. We, when we go to L.A. we typically go to hang out with friends, and we pretty much try to avoid working as much as possible, but because we're on tour. Brad Crowell 14:47  It's true. Lesley Logan 14:47  And we want an excuse to see L.A. again, we are making a stop as we're going by so go to opc.me/la for tickets to the L.A. event. Or if you go to opc.me/tour, you'll see San Diego, Santa Barbara. You know, because people who live in L.A. also live very far from the center of L.A., typically, so like Poway, as the San Diego city. So you know, there's some really good stuff. But thanks, you guys. You guys, we have a really easy place for you to send your questions in. You can text us at 310-905-5534, or you can actually submit your questions or a win at beitpod.com/questions. Brad Crowell 15:27  That's right beitpod.com/questions.Lesley Logan 15:28  Now you can just do it there, and it's so easy and you can be anonymous if you want to. You can whatever you want. Brad Crowell 15:36  Well, you know, so for the Friday episodes, we celebrate wins. And now, instead of people sending DMs, you know, fill out this form, it actually makes it easier for you, too. It's clear what it is, and we know what's going on, all the things. So beitpod beitpod.com/questionsLesley Logan 15:54  And you could put your win there too. I know, it's, which we didn't want to have two links. We just want to have one. So it's we could have called it quest wins.Brad Crowell 16:01  Quest wins. We could have, we could have really gone over well with trying to figure out how to spell that. Lesley Logan 16:07  All right. All right.Brad Crowell 16:08  Well, look, stick around, this, we're going to talk about slow living. This, this break will be fast, but the, but the conversation about Stephanie O'Dea is going to be really exciting. So we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 16:21  All right. Now, welcome back. Let's talk about Stephanie O'Dea. She's a writer, she's a coach, she's a teacher and a speaker who helps people embrace slow living. Lesley Logan 16:30  She's a teacher and a speaker. I like how that sounded. Brad Crowell 16:33  She's a teacher, teacher and a speaker. Her journeys began in 2008 on a viral blog where she used her Crock-Pot every single day for an entire year, landed her on national TV and got her a book deal, and that, she said, that journey lasted for about eight years before things really changed with the introduction of the Instant Pot. Fascinating. She said, when that, when that trend rose, she realized faster isn't always better. After stepping back to unplug, she discovered her true gift was helping others reach their goals in a slow, steady and sustainable way, a mission she now shares through her Slow Living podcast. Lesley Logan 17:13  I, so, so first of all, okay, I would just have to say, I was on her pod, and I was like, okay, like, this is great, you know, this is wonderful. And I really enjoyed her. I thought she was so sweet. And then she came on the pod, and, like, I was like, I'm in the presence of, like, a celebrity, like I and I was like, oh my God, she's, I'm sure, like your mom and your grandma and, like all these people, probably like, no, she is. And I'm sitting here going, oh my God, who are you? Oh God.Brad Crowell 17:48  Well, she, not only that, she is really fun. Lesley Logan 17:53  Oh yeah. Brad Crowell 17:53  And, like, snarky, and, you know, like the things that she was saying, she's got a lot of experience. You know, going through life. And I appreciated it, and I enjoyed it. And it was, it was, it was a really great conversation. In fact, I feel like it's probably a conversation, y'all, that you would want to save. So if you have not had a chance to go back and listen, I would recommend it. But. Lesley Logan 18:20  So slow living, you guys, stands for look only within. So, like, trusting your inner voice and intuition to find answers. And I really love that we talked about, like, slow living is meeting your goals. It meets all of them, but it just says it like, as you said in the bio, like in this nice, sustainable way, some of us are, like, really trying to make things happen fast. And this one book that I read every morning was like whenever we're trying to make things happen fast, but it usually means we want to skip ahead. And unfortunately, when you skip ahead, you miss out on like the muscle strength and experience you need for where you're going to go. So then when you get there, not only are you further along than you are strong enough to be, but now you don't have the skill set to handle the problems you have, and so that's why you don't get to skip ahead. So I really do believe it's sustainable to hit your goals in a way that is steady and allows you to evaluate and you and trust your gut intuition. And she said, she encouraged you to decide your next best step when you're in a good mood and not when you're feeling down. And I was like, that is so common sense and fucking brilliant.Brad Crowell 19:24  Yeah. No, that makes total sense. I mean, when we make decisions in a bad place, you know, we're making reactionary decisions. We're not making proactionary decisions. I just wanted to throw out there the 34% Rotten Tomatoes review on an Adam Sandler movie from 2006 called Click. Lesley Logan 19:44  There, okay. Brad Crowell 19:45  Which is exactly what you're just describing. It's all about how he somehow got a magic remote that fast forwarded through what, at the time, he was like all the bullshit so that he can get to what he wants to do in his life.Lesley Logan 20:00  Oh, but then, and then he got there and he missed everything. Brad Crowell 20:03  He missed everything. Lesley Logan 20:04  Yeah, yeah. I was in sixth grade, or fifth grade, when I read a story about a little boy who had this magic string, and he could just pull the string and it could, like, skip ahead. So like, he was, like, not ready for a test, so like, he pulled the string and he like, skipped ahead. Now he's in next grade. And then he, like, pulled the string a little bit more. And then he was in high school and, like, it's the same thing, I think, Click just came from the story of this little kid who pulled the string too much. At any rate, I, I wanted to say, like, going back to the good mood or bad mood. Sometimes when I'm in my email inbox, I start to get a little overwhelmed. Because, like, the only emails I have to respond to often require a little bit of research, of like, they're like, like, someone's asking me to do this event, and I already said I would do it, but I have given them rates before, and they like, want rates again, and they asked for my rates to be lowered, and I but, but they were like, oh, can we get your rates? And also, like, this is our first time so it would be great if you could lower your rates to help us support this event. And I was immediately pissed. I was so pissed off because I was like, what are you talking about? Like, what? And so I was like, and so, you know, I got this email. I'm really behind on my emails. I'm gonna you will have response from me by the end of this week. And I was like, because nothing good is going to come from what I want to say in this moment. And I just need to be able to get angry and feel my feelings, and also go, well, why am I in a bad mood now? Like, what happened? Well, it's not intentional. She personally did not intend to piss me off in any way, but it's the, this is, by the way, guys, this is like a constant, like, I'm asked is my inbox is mostly people asking me to do free things, or to negotiate the rates I say of things and so. Brad Crowell 21:50  Or to partner up, which means. Lesley Logan 21:52  Partner up, which means do it for free. Brad Crowell 21:53  Do it for free. Lesley Logan 21:54  And so, it's, so by the time I got to this email, I had already had gone through like seven people wanting to do things for free, and then this person wants to pay me, but not as much and I was like, I gotta walk away, because I have an appropriate response. I'm sure we can get to a place where it's gonna work for both of us. But I just was angry. And so, so it's always better if you're not in a good place to just like, give yourself a permission. And this goes to slow living, if, if my response to her at the end of the week means she can't work with me, then I don't. It wasn't for me, you know, like, like, slow living, like, I really love what Stephanie's talking about, because we used to live that fast pace. Do, do, do, do, do. We were in Australia, then Spain, then, then New York, then U.K. and it's like, and I don't actually want to do that anymore, and so, so I think it's like, really. Brad Crowell 22:47  We have tried to be more intentional. Before it was like, oh, you're willing to pay us, we'll be there, even if it's like, stupid, you know, for us to travel that way. Lesley Logan 22:56  Also, by the way, when you're new in an industry or new at a thing, I do think that you need to get your feet wet. I do think you need to, I want to make sure, like, I don't want any Pilates instructors like working for free, but I also sometimes you do, and so I think, like, I never flew anywhere for free, but I definitely wouldn't travel for the rates I used to travel on. However, I because I was willing to say yes to things and learn from those experience. I could keep changing my contract had I had my current situation set up now, well, one, I wouldn't know all the things I wouldn't have known all the things that drive me crazy when I travel, and it's like, no, I do need my own hotel room, and I actually do need pistachio milk for my coffee or something like, I know that, what I need, right? I sound like Mariah Carey. But, you know what? I know why Mariah Carey is now like that, because sometimes you don't have what you need, and then you perform at your best and you don't have it. So I wouldn't know all the things that really helped me be the person I am had I not gone through that stuff. So I don't think anyone should skip ahead. But also, at some point you have to go, okay, hold on. Do I need this, right? So anyways, I also just want to say share, to quote, discipline is just choosing between what you want now and what you want most, and just going back to like you saying like now we're more intentional. It's like, it can be really flattering to be asked to do certain things and so, but also, what do we want most? And so is it like, is that part of the most, or is that actually just flattering? And then, you know, so you all have to decide, like, when you're saying yes or doing things like, what is ahead? Is it on the journey what you want most? But I really liked her, her definition, her quote of discipline, because most people think it's like, means like. Brad Crowell 24:41  But she was full of them. Lesley Logan 24:42  She was so, I mean, there's so much stuff I have to go.Brad Crowell 24:45  She defined FOMO as Figure Only Myself Out. Figure Only Myself Out. So, meaning, stop the comparison game, where we're probably scrolling the gram and then beating ourselves up about it, right? And she said, she also said, it's not too late to start now, right? So you can, instead of FOMO, as in, you're missing, you know, you're not doing what they're doing on Instagram. FOMO is figuring only myself out. What do you want to do? You know? How are you going to get you know? What is your path? Where are you going? You know, and you can start to figure that stuff out today. She said, Start pivoting. It's time. Let's do this, right? She also emphasized, setbacks are normal. And she said something that I laughed about, because we are, one of the things that we say a lot in OPC is, if you only have five minutes, just do five moves, you know, like, don't, don't make a big thing out of not having time. And we just had somebody quit the other day, oh, I only was able to log into class once this week, you know, and I'm barely getting to it, right, and so they quit their entire membership, you know. And now I'm, like, thinking that I'm gonna email her back and say, hey, that's okay, you know, like, think about that, even if you came, you know, only five minutes in a week, would it be worth it to start now and be consistent with five minutes and then consistent with 10 minutes.Lesley Logan 26:26  And also, like, what are you going to do without it? You're going to somehow be better at doing your Pilates some, somewhere, somewhere else, no you're not. Brad Crowell 26:33  No, clearly you're not. Clearly, if they can't log in at home, they're obviously not going to a studio to do it, right? Lesley Logan 26:40  And also, some people actually only do it once a week, and that's fine. Like, I only log into Max HBO on Sundays for John Oliver. Like, you know what I mean? Like, and I don't go. So I think we have to stop putting so much pressure on ourselves that it has to be all or nothing. If that's how you're living your life, you're going to miss out on a lot of things.Brad Crowell 26:59  Yeah. And Stephanie said, you know, if you're doing a 30-day challenge, but it takes you 45 days. You did not fail. You still did the challenge. You did it on your time, and that's okay. Lesley Logan 27:12  That's FOMO, Figuring Only Myself Out. Brad Crowell 27:15  That's right, yeah. And she said, you'd be way more proud of yourself for going even if you have to take a day off, right? I was just thinking about the video you showed me last night about the one-legged. Lesley Logan 27:28  The Pope, yes. Brad Crowell 27:29  No, no, but that's funny. The one-legged athlete.Lesley Logan 27:33  Yes, the Nike girl. Brad Crowell 27:35  Yeah, who, the reason that she is now the Nike girl is because she entered herself into a competition. She, she has a, like, a bionic leg. I don't really know what all the right terms are there, but she's, she, she was trying to do a.Lesley Logan 27:54  Looks like a thrust, a clean.Brad Crowell 27:57  Yeah, she was trying to do a clean with a barbell, right, and. Lesley Logan 28:00  That's hard with two legs, I'm just gonna be really honest, and she has one leg that doesn't really bend like her other leg does, so, yeah. Brad Crowell 28:06  So she, so she, she's in the middle of a stadium with all these people, everyone's watching. There's, like, you know, all the things, and she's being filmed, and she doesn't know she's being filmed, and she, she fails. She fails. She like, gets it halfway up and just can't go and drops the bar. And she's frustrated with herself, she's like, okay. Lesley Logan 28:24  She's also starting to cry and really emotional. Brad Crowell 28:27  So she, she drops the bar. Well, she leans back over. She's like, all right, I got it. She, you literally can see her say shit, you know, on this video, right? And, and there's no audio to it, but she's like, shit. So she leans over, and she tries again and she fails again, and it's this point that she, like, totally breaks. Obviously, she's been frustrated all day long, and she breaks, and she literally starts crying, and she and it's super emotional, right? And she leans over and she like, puts her head on her arms, and she, you could see herself make the decision, I'm not going to quit here. I'm going to get this, through this even though I probably have disqualified myself already from whatever this competition is, because I didn't get it up on the first try, I didn't get it up on the second try, and she tries a third time, and she succeeds. And it is like this heartfelt, amazing experience. And I, I have to imagine that she is more proud of herself for finishing, completing it, for being just making the decision to stay with it, than she was, you know, than, obviously, she quit, she would, she'd be beating herself up. Lesley Logan 29:40  Well and I think first of all, I got chills and emotional just like thinking about it, because I like, every time I watch, I've watched it multiple times. And trust me, you guys, she's on a list of like, okay, I gotta email her publicist. I gotta get her on the pod. I have so many questions. But everyday, I talk to women who are beating themselves up for how little they've done, that they think they've done, which, by the way, is more than most people will do in a day, right? And it.Brad Crowell 30:08  Specially moms. Lesley Logan 30:08  Frustrates me, because none, never have you ever shamed yourself into doing the thing you said you were going to do. It doesn't work. That is not how our brains work. Our brains avoid shame and judgment. It doesn't feel good, it doesn't bring your dopamine up. It's not what motivates your brain to do shit. And so we have to do some FOMO, figuring out myself, figuring my own self out, and start congratulating ourselves we did fucking five minutes. You know, like, first of all, if you don't, no one else is. No one else is going to come up and congratulate you on things that they don't know have happened and they won't know have happened. That's why we do the FYFs. And it is, do you know how many people won't share their wins? I don't want to share, it's so small. Okay, but you do understand that that's going to inspire someone else. So, anyways, be nice to yourself. Get the FOMO.Brad Crowell 31:02  Be nice to yourself. Lesley Logan 31:03  The new FOMO. Brad Crowell 31:06  You know, I think that decision to stay with it, to be consistent, will, will be so much more gratifying over the long run, even if it's smaller increments than you know, whatever the prescribed amount is, or whatever that thing is, you know. So, that, I love this FOMO, I love this idea of figuring only myself out. It helps get rid of that comparison energy, you know, and create a safe space for you to succeed in, so, very cool. Very, very cool. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna cover those Be It Action Items from Stephanie O'Dea. Brad Crowell 31:48  Okay, welcome back. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What are the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Stephanie O'Dea? She said, hey, funny enough, I'm gonna tell you to journal, but I'm gonna tell you how to journal in a very structured way. Lesley Logan 32:07  I, but I also, it's the only person I let journal, like, say journal, so.Brad Crowell 32:12  So it's funny because, I mean, I've heard Lesley say this about four, well, three, 250 times now, hey, if you're going to tell you know, use journaling as your, your Be It Action Item, you have to give us a structure how to do it. And she started laughing, and she said, I can do that. In fact, she has a free guided daily journaling worksheet that you can print out and you can write on if you go to stephanieodea.com/daily we will put that link in the show notes, but she's a big proponent it gives you structure. It tells you how to journal, what to journal about. It gives you prompts. But she also specifically mentioned that picking up a pen and paper, or pencil and paper, is different than typing on a computer. It just puts you in a different mindset. I mean, she's a writer, right? She got a book deal, she wrote a blog for eight years about cooking, right? She's like, constantly, constantly writing. And so she definitely would know she's the authority. She said that her tool will help you get in the right mindset. It gives you action steps, consistent, and consistency, it builds the muscle of slow, sustainable growth. And she said, your brain engages differently when writing by hand, which I think is interesting, and it helps you move towards your goals, even in off days. Lesley Logan 33:35  And also, your handwriting does not have to be good for it to actually still do the thing it does with your brain. I write things down which I like, which is why I like my reMarkable tablet. I actually don't even need to look at the tablet again. I remember it, but I. Brad Crowell 33:48  That's how I used to study for tests, hard copy my own notes. Lesley Logan 33:51  My nails are too long now, and it's, it's really annoying to type things. I'm like, I'm trying to learn how to type with the nails that.Brad Crowell 33:59  Hi, buddy. Are you trying to learn how to type, too?Lesley Logan 34:01  Yeah, Bayon's learning how to type. He's also truly found his voice this week. He's. Brad Crowell 34:05  It's pretty funny. Lesley Logan 34:06  He's like, oh, I'm gonna bark at this thing. And it's like, never did. Brad Crowell 34:12  Well, yeah. Lesley Logan 34:12  Anyway. Brad Crowell 34:13  His trip to Joshua Tree was a win. Well, you know what one thing that she said that I that I laughed about. She said, look, once you get into a routine, if something changes the routine, it's okay, because you, she said, you are not a spreadsheet. And I was like, oh, that's a really good idea.Lesley Logan 34:37  There's actually a whole study on, you know how, to go back to the long intro we had about politics, there's a study that shows like the more rigid your thinking is, the more likely you are to get stuck in beliefs that are not serving you. And so I'm a big habits coach, mindset coach, all those different things, but you'll notice that, like, I'm always going, giving grace. Giving lots of grace and kind of rolling with it. And I really love what she said here, because I have a morning routine and I have three hours, but, I don't have, oh, I have to be out the door at 6:01, otherwise it's, like, I just get outside. Brad Crowell 35:13  Facing the ice bowl, rub the banana peel, 6:11, take the elevator from 6:17.Lesley Logan 35:20  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 35:21  So dumb. Lesley Logan 35:22  Right? I don't live like that. I do have and I post my schedule of the day with my outfit of the day. I'm like, here's my outfit and here's the schedule. And it might look rigid, but you have to understand, like, most of the things on there take 20 minutes, but I gave it the full hour so that I can be flexible. I can, I can roll with it. If I need to have a little bit more time with something, if I want to take a longer walk, I can. If I have longer Pilates, I take a shorter walk. And so by not being rigid, allows my habits and routines be very malleable and to serve me and what I need that day. And I think that's really important. We're not a spreadsheet. Okay, there's so many, you guys have to listen to the episode because I'm, she actually gave us so many Be It Action Items, to be honest. So I'm just gonna take a few. Celebrate your process, even if it's not linear. We actually have talked about that 17 times on this episode already today. So you celebrate your process, even if, it won't be linear, it is impossible. It never is, don't, you don't have to read the book. Go look at the cover of the book, called The Middle. The Messy Middle. It's bright yellow. When you see the graph, that graph of it going up down, up down, up down. It's like a heart rate monitor, and it's going up, but it's always going up, even though it might go down way lower than it did. And it goes up, Brad's looking at it right now, down, up, down. But like.Brad Crowell 36:34  It's not even a graph. It's like a squiggly line that goes in a square, in a circle and a triangle. Lesley Logan 36:38  Yeah, but if you take a bigger picture, it goes to the end. It's always going up. It's like the stock market. The stock market is not linear on the app, it goes up and down, up and down, up and down. But guess what? It always ends up. It's up, right? So hopefully, I don't know what it is today, guys. Anyways, she also said, use gold stars, stickers or a visible chart to track your small wins. Yes, it's a behavior from childhood, charts from childhood, but it's very important. You need to see it visibly. And then she said, choose non-food rewards, like a cozy nap or a pedicure or something like that. Like the things that you feel like are indulgent and you would never do, those should be your rewards. Make a list of them. That's what my therapist really had me do. And then she also reminded us, you can absolutely get to where you want to go, but you have to trust in yourself that you can do that and you'll get there when you get there. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 37:29  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 37:29  Thank you so much for listening. What a longer recap we had today. We were very chatty, so we hope you enjoyed it. Send your questions and your wins in we want to celebrate them. And we want to answer your questions. So beitpod.com/questions and then make sure you share this episode with a friend, especially the Slow Living episode, because Stephanie has, obviously, so many great tips. She is amazing. And check out her journaling prompts. I know I am. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 37:53  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 37:55  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Get the inside scoop on how the OPC tours came to life, including the key role Balanced Body played in making them happen. Lesley and Brad share what it's like to be on the road, how they stay grounded during tour season, and why reflecting after each stop matters. This episode is packed with community, purpose, and behind-the-scenes fun. Whether you've joined a tour before or are curious about what it's like, you'll love hearing what's in store for this year.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:58  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It second half of the how did these tours come to be? And Brad is back as my guest. So this is a different kind of cadence, I guess you'd say. Brad Crowell 1:10  Yeah, you know, we're shaking things up a little bit. Lesley Logan 1:11  So we're not answering any of your questions. We're not going to talk about the Be It Action Items we shared with you. Brad Crowell 1:16  But we are going to talk about that amazing guest you had on this week's episode. Lesley Logan 1:20  Oh yeah, yeah. We're talking about you, Brad. Brad Crowell 1:22  It was me. Lesley Logan 1:23  And also, if you want to come to the tours, opc.me/tour, no matter when you hear this, you will always be able to see what upcoming tour there is or you'll get on a waitlist for the next one to come out. But basically, we do two tours a year. So we left off with how we started talking with Balanced Body about our tours.Brad Crowell 1:42  Yeah. So I remember we were at a POT, I think. Lesley Logan 1:46  In Monterey in 2020. Brad Crowell 1:48  No, I think it was before that. I think it was in Chicago, even before that. Lesley Logan 1:51  Well, there was a Chicago one that I talked to them and I planted the seed, that was in 2019. Brad Crowell 1:54  Yeah, but that's the one I was talking about. So we started talking to Balanced Body years prior to their participation, and I remember the conversation with their team. I just remember looking at their operation and literally watching them back a tractor trailer up to the convention center and commenting and going, Wow, you guys have tractor trailers. And the response was, we have three. I was like, you have three tractor trailers? They're like, yeah, look where do you think all these Reformers are gonna go? And they were loading case after case after case of things into the thing. And I was like, wow, it's so much work for you guys to go on the road. And they said, yeah, for us to put on these POTs, it is a massive enterprise to do. Many, many, many people, lots and lots of money. It's so much coordination, so much effort, you know. And I jokingly said, well, you know, I think we can help you guys out with that. And that didn't really come to anything, but I, in my mind, I was like, we could do it for half, you know. And then we got the van, and then we were talking with Ken.Lesley Logan 2:56  What happened is they changed, on the Contrology, they changed how you can do the wheels, the side wheels, how you can tighten them or not tighten them, and they change it to make it easier for people. And so I said, we're all, we're driving to the POT Monterey anyways, because we're gonna have a booth there as well because we had a booth in the October one which was when you kind of planted that seed. Brad Crowell 3:15  Yeah, and for us it was only what eight hours, at this point we've driven across the country multiple times. They're like, yeah, we'll just drive. Lesley Logan 3:20  I said, oh, I'll bring my Reformer. And we weren't even staying at the hotel where the event was. We were just down the street, just because of, like, I needed a really big room. Brad Crowell 3:27  Yeah, you had to do a weekend workshop thing. Lesley Logan 3:29  Yeah, I had to, like, host a weekend event and so we needed a big room. And so I had my assistant at the time, like, literally scoping pictures of rooms and we're like, there's no way we can make this room work, because the beds right there. So we had to stay about a mile a half away from the venue. And so Ken Ubered over. Brad Crowell 3:45  Ken is the owner of Balanced Body. Lesley Logan 3:47  Yeah, so get this, Ken Ubered over to our hotel, during setup of his humongous convention, to change the little silver situation that goes on the back of my carriage, to change the wheels out. Brad Crowell 4:01  Yeah, he brought us wrenches.Lesley Logan 4:02  He just brought a wrench, brought a credit card, so we had also brought our Nespresso machine. Brad made him a cup of Nespresso and so he fixed he like, this is, this is what.Brad Crowell 4:11  We're just chilling out, you know, and he's working on this Reformer, we're just chit-chatting. Lesley Logan 4:16  And then Brad's like, oh, man, I'll take you back to the venue. Brad Crowell 4:18  Yeah. He's like, oh, I'll grab an Uber. I was like, no, you will not grab an Uber. I will drive you, you know. And of course, I wanted him to see the van. Lesley Logan 4:26  Yeah. So he got in the van. He had to see how big the van was. He had just seen that we brought the Reformer. Brad Crowell 4:31  Yeah, yeah. Obviously, we brought the Reformer. But he said to me, oh my gosh, I always wanted one of these when I was in my 20s. I always just wanted to drive around the country. And it's so cool that you guys are doing this, and that's when I got a chance to say, well, this is, you know, we do go on tour, and we are taking, we're already taking a Reformer with us, so that we can show off the Contrology Reformer, right? And he was like, wow. And so, you know, I didn't like full blown pitch him in that moment, but it was like one major seed planted, because he could see it, feel it, touch it, understand it, in a way that wasn't us trying to pitch the vision. He could be in the vision.Lesley Logan 5:09  Yeah. So they actually signed on with us for our first ever summer tour. And so we got to do the west coast because we'd only ever done the East Coast and the middle we'd never done the west coast before we'd pulled them. We want to do a West Coast tour. So we actually did our first West Coast tour. It wasn't very long. It was kind of like a short and sweet thing. I know. We did Las Vegas. We did Los Angeles. Brad Crowell 5:31  Well, somewhere in there, we missed the 2022 winter tour. But we, 2020. Lesley Logan 5:36  Oh, yeah, we did a '22 we did a 22, you're right, we did do a 2022 winter tour. And that got bigger, got back up to the size. Brad Crowell 5:41  Yeah, that was like eight or nine. So we have Cleveland, St Louis, Dallas, Houston, Nashville, Atlanta, Greensboro. Yeah. So. Lesley Logan 5:48  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one, that one was really great, actually, because we got back up to our 2019 numbers and so we were able to say, okay, so we've had four tours, and so we're able to show them like, look now that COVID allows us to do this. Look at these nine cities. What if we, so we did our biggest tour ever, which was the West Coast tour. We didn't do Los Angeles. We started at Las Vegas. Did we even do Las Vegas? I know we did Riverside. Brad Crowell 6:10  For the summer tour? Lesley Logan 6:11  Yeah. We did Redlands. Brad Crowell 6:13  Redlands, Long Beach. Lesley Logan 6:14  Long Beach. Brad Crowell 6:14  Bakersfield. Lesley Logan 6:15  Bakersfield. Brad Crowell 6:16  Central Valley, Hanford, Fresno. Lesley Logan 6:18  Yeah it was near Fresno. Brad Crowell 6:19  Modesto. Lesley Logan 6:20  Modesto. You guys were hitting some of those great I-5 cities. Brad Crowell 6:23  So that's five. Yeah, we did Fairfield. Lesley Logan 6:25  Yes. And we did Sacramento. Brad Crowell 6:27  Sac. Lesley Logan 6:27  And then we did a tour of Balanced Body, even though we've done it before with Ken, we did a tour so that our OPC members could see how it's all done. It was so fun. They do amazing work at Balanced Body, just being great on the environment. Then we did. Brad Crowell 6:40  Bend. Lesley Logan 6:40  Bend, Oregon. Brad Crowell 6:42  Portland. Lesley Logan 6:42  Portland. That was so fun, too, Seattle, and then. Brad Crowell 6:46  Spokane. Lesley Logan 6:47  Spokane and then we dropped down, had a couple days off in Idaho. And then we got all around St George, Utah. Brad Crowell 6:54  So we did 11 stops. Lesley Logan 6:55  11 stops, it was our biggest one, and it was so fun. And we got to see how hot it could get. So then the van got a fan. Brad Crowell 7:05  We also did that whole tour in two weeks. Lesley Logan 7:07  In two weeks. Brad Crowell 7:07  It was like 16 days. Lesley Logan 7:09  It was really. Brad Crowell 7:10  It was zipped through 11 stops in 16 days. Lesley Logan 7:13  It was, yeah, there's a heat wave. So I was not, I was okay with zipping through. Then, because of that went so well and Balanced Body was so great with that that they joined us for our winter tour in 2023 and then we really able to like. Brad Crowell 7:26  But that's when I think things really blew up. Lesley Logan 7:27  Yeah, I don't think it was our, it was our biggest tour, for sure. It beat the 11 cities, but it wasn't our biggest, biggest. Then, last year, you want to go through them? Brad Crowell 7:36  Sure. We did Vegas, St George, Denver, Lawrence, Kansas, St Louis, Missouri, Cleveland, Ohio, Saratoga Springs. That was a private event. Boston, t hen Providence, private event. Brooklyn. We had to cancel New York City because nobody was in town. Hershey, Pennsylvania, Greensboro, North Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina, Miami, Sarasota, that's the first time we did the inside of Florida. Then Austin, Dallas, Albuquerque, Sedona. So by far, this was the largest one of the 19 cities. Lesley Logan 8:10  Yeah, then we did a summer tour with the Midwest. Because if you've noticed, we've been skipping Chicago for a while. So we have been alternating the West Coast, with the Midwest, and so this is how we decided, like, okay, so you need to know, after every single one of these tours, we reflect about, like, what went well, what cities went well? Will we go back, how the people like it, how much effort was it, how great was the host? You know, if we love the host, obviously it's amazing for us to want to go there. If the host works really, really hard, then, of course, we want to continue to work with them and support them. But we also discovered that my voice, as I get older, my voice can only do. Brad Crowell 8:47  I don't think it's just because you're getting older. We had you working nine days in a row, literally teaching class nine days in a row. By the ninth day you were fried. Lesley Logan 8:56  And some of these studios, they're acoustic. Brad Crowell 8:58  You're not a day older than 29, love. Lesley Logan 8:59  Thanks, baby. Some of these students, the acoustics are not awesome for that, because you have to get your voice to carry and all these things. And so, at any rate, you'd think, well, Lesley, don't you teach all day? No. No, I don't. No, I don't. In fact, when I. Brad Crowell 9:14  Come on, you do talk, you do talk most of the time, but like this is different than trying to yell in a warehouse, you know, like. Lesley Logan 9:20  Yeah, and get people's attention in a warehouse, for sure, some of them have music going on, the whole thing. So, at any rate, we've made changes to the tour. So you'll notice with tour schedules since summer of the Midwest. Brad Crowell 9:31  Well, that, so the Summer Tour was only 13 stops, but we did it in 16 days. Yes, we were flying through. Lesley Logan 9:36  We made changes that we can only do max six days in a row before a day off, five is more ideal. Brad Crowell 9:42  But this was a major change for us, where, whereas, like, all right, we have to be very intentional about the breaks that we're putting in. Because one, things Lesley mentioned at the beginning was, how does she maintain her consistency? How does she maintain her you know, how do you do that stuff? Lesley Logan 9:57  So these tours, because I don't want to do them, because it's a job. We actually truly enjoy doing the tours. We have so much fun. I mean, I get to hug hundreds of people. It's so great. And it really, actually makes me go, oh, I wanna teach all the time. And then I'm actually like, no, actually, I really love my life, but I love that I get to see so many of you that I only see on like, I only get to read words on the internet. I get to see you in person. I could touch you and like you're three dimensional and all the things. We really love doing it, we also want to be able to be as present as possible. And so after every tour, we always reflect back, do we have enough time in that city? Do we have enough time to do this? You guys, I must work out so I do not teach all these people Pilates, and I don't get workouts in. And so every schedule we have to make sure that five days a week, I have time at a gym. I have time to move before I'm teaching giving me space to go the gym at 11pm at night is not space to work out. Also, I have to make sure that I get to have seven hours of sleep, very important. So all the things that I preach about prioritizing myself first, those things happen on tour. Brad Crowell 10:57  People always ask us how do you maintain your routine when you're completely jacking up your routine?Lesley Logan 11:02  Yeah? Well, you can speak to this. You guys use a really cool app that plans out everything, because he'll kind of drive late at night while I'm sleeping, so I can go to bed early, and I'll wake up and it will say like you're working out from this time to this time. Then you're driving here to get coffee, and then you're driving here to do this thing, and so that I have time to do my thing for myself while you're sleeping.Brad Crowell 11:22  Yeah, so we take shifts, because just the nature of our brains and our bodies, I usually stay up late. Lesley usually gets up early, especially when, when it was the COVID trip that was crazy, like the van almost never turned off. We just kept going. Lesley Logan 11:36  We were so nervous about touching anything. Brad Crowell 11:37  I sleep, you drive, and while you were sleeping, I would drive, and we'd just go, go, go. Lesley Logan 11:42  That was very different. That was also just like a very different time in the world. We were, like, afraid. We still wondered if you got COVID from gas station handles and we were going to see people at Christmas, and we had to do like, a three-day hangout at your parents' house.Brad Crowell 11:55  But the point is that we were overlapping on purpose while one was sleeping, the other was driving. Now it's a little less. The maximum amount of driving that we're trying to do in a day is, like, no more than eight hours. And that's still a lot, you know, so we've started to slow it down, which has since then made the tour longer, but it makes it a lot more enjoyable so.Lesley Logan 12:17  We also get to like, see places now, because and we have the dogs, well, now we just have one dog. We should tell them funny stories about the dogs before we wrap this episode up. But we like make sure that they get walks, and we take it through really beautiful habitat preservations that allow for dog walking. We get to see some really cool thing.Brad Crowell 12:33  We stopped in Kansas by, like, one of those big tank memorials and threw the ball. I mean, you know, like this, all these things that we do. Then the Winter Tour 2024 with the support of Balanced Body. And we had some other sponsors, too. Yeah, we had 21 locations, 21 stops. But in order to meet these new requirements of no more than six days in a row of teaching, how do we drive eight hours or less a day? How do we make sure that we've got time to do some workouts. By the way, we're interested in seeing White Sands National Park on this trip. Can we do that, you know, like stuff like that. How do we work all that in? Well, it ended up making, making the trip 34, 35 days. But we actually went the longest. We drove 80, over 8000 miles. Lesley Logan 13:17  Yeah, we got to go to some great places. And also, if you're like, this sounds so amazing, guys, everything works out for you. Just so you know, pretty much every tour there was a dud city.Brad Crowell 13:24  Oh yeah, we had to cancel. It would have been 22 cities on the Winter Tour, and we, unfortunately, had to pull one because we just had no one participate.Lesley Logan 13:33  And we and talk about like the last time was that perseverance, we paid people to scour emails and Instagram handles for three hour drive away to be like, okay, well, what if we get these people from this state to come in? What if this people from this state come in? They could do with this. Brad Crowell 13:47  I mean, I would drive and just call, literally, I would call studio after studio after studio. Lesley Logan 13:51  And we had people say, and it was a lovely house. And she's like, no, people are just last minute. We're like, girl, it's 48 hours before. This is as last minute as we, no, we're not driving up there. So again, we don't take it personally. It sucks. We always do reflect, like, what could we have done better? Was it the time of day? You know, we've had cities that have done really, really well two years in a row, and then have a dud year, and we're like, oh, what happened there? And it's like, oh. So this next Winter Tour, we're flipping two cities because we're like, oh, you know, we did them before Christmas and then after Christmas. And this year we switched that, and that didn't go well for either one of them. So you start to learn the seasons of things, and you have to know that it's not personal, but the reflecting after every tour really helps us make each tour even better. And we're six weeks, five weeks away from our eighth tour, and it's gonna be epic. It's gonna be amazing. It almost feels like a vacation.Brad Crowell 14:38  A little bit more time-condensed, so we're a little over three weeks, but we're at doing almost 19 stops. So that's, that's intense. Lesley Logan 14:46  Three of them include Canada.Brad Crowell 14:48  Yeah. So we're, we're doing our best here to get to do our first international tour. I mean, we are going, so. Lesley Logan 14:55  We're going. Just so you know, these tours also are a huge investment. There's a reason why we have a sponsor with Balanced Body. They really help us actually be on the road for that long because when you're on the road for that many weeks, you're having three plus meals a day on the road. All that adds up money, the gas, depending on what state you're in, is insane, right? So there's that we do. We try not to use a hotel at this point because we have the van, the investment we've made in the van, you know, to make it so we can live in all of that kind of costs money. And so there are things that have failed on tours where, like, like, those stops that haven't made money or haven't, haven't, had been canceled, but having a sponsor that allows us to, like, really be on the road for that long, so that we can do these stops and we can see all of you, but to get to Canada, we're investing thousands of dollars to make it happen.Brad Crowell 15:41  Yeah, had to pay an attorney to help us with paperwork and it was like. Lesley Logan 15:44  Because you can't just work wherever you want to work. You can't just do that. So we're super, super excited to be one of the first people that actually do a big Pilates event. There have been other Pilates events in Canada. I don't want to discount those ones that are happening in Balanced Bodies in Montreal.Brad Crowell 15:59   It's like, it's the thing that's exciting about this is it'll be our first international tour. Lesley Logan 16:03  Yes, yes. I know people are like, when are you going to do a European tour? So I used to think it was like two years away after what we're doing for Canada. You guys, I gonna tell you right now, that's a five year plan. Because, like. Brad Crowell 16:13  Yeah, we so we're thinking about, how could we do this, you know, in Europe and Australia. Because, like, eventually for us, that's the vision. We want to go see those places. We want to spend the time, I think, for us to drive around Australia, to do it right, it's going to take us five to six weeks of driving, like, that's a lot. Lesley Logan 16:28  And we're going to have to rent a van there. We're certainly not going to take one. I was thinking about put some magnets on it. But also, there are actual laws about what we can do, and we don't do these things quietly. So, so if you live in Australia or Europe, and you want us to do tours there, you should definitely reach out. We keep a list of people who love to host. And we do need hosts. These tours, they happen when there's hosts. But also, and that goes for anyone in the States as well. You can actually put your place on there. But also, we're gonna need legal help, because, like we're talking immigration attorney help, which is not cheap, by the way, very expensive, so that we can actually do these things. So what we thought would be like in two years, I'm realizing, is probably a few years in the making. But we want to make this happen. We want to be part of it. That's why we're actually telling you the behind the scenes on how these tours work. So opc.me/tour is where you go for tickets, but opc.me/host is where you go to apply to be a host. Okay, so funny stories about the dogs. First of all, we used to do these tours with three dogs. Brad Crowell 17:29  Three. Lesley Logan 17:30  And then Gaia's last tour was Summer Tour 2024. Brad Crowell 17:33  Well, her first last tour. Lesley Logan 17:35  Her first last tour was Winter 2022. Brad Crowell 17:38  So, was it winter? Lesley Logan 17:40  Oh, yeah, Winter Tour 2022. Brad Crowell 17:42  It was Winter Tour, you're right.Lesley Logan 17:43  And then it was, her first last tour was Summer 2023 then her second last tour was, was winter 2023 and then. Brad Crowell 17:52  Her actual last tour was Summer '24. Lesley Logan 17:53  You guys, before we started, she, you guys, she did not want to go. We were, the van was loaded up, the boys were in it. The boys, because the boys, once we start loading the, putting stuff up to load in. They are like, in the van. Brad Crowell 18:03  Yeah, they do not want to be left behind, so they're sitting in the van watching us. Lesley Logan 18:07  It is hot as fuck outside. And they're like, no, I need to be in the van. I'm like, okay, but the doors are wide open. I can't be in the van. And they're freaking out. They're, they're just, you know, very nervous. And she, so we have the whole van loaded up. The boys are in the van. We go Gaia, and she comes and looks at the door.Brad Crowell 18:22  She comes out onto the front porch, stares at us. Lesley Logan 18:26  And she goes back inside. Brad Crowell 18:27  Turns around and goes back in the house. She's like nuh-uh.Lesley Logan 18:30  And we forced her, we forced her to go on this tour. And she was at this point, sleeping 20 hours a day, just anyways, she was having a hard time with her back legs. We're carrying her everywhere, which we've been doing the last two tours. Brad Crowell 18:41  And we had to lift her in and out of the van. Lesley Logan 18:42  Lift her in the van, and then, okay, so on this her on her final, final, last tour, she had an accident in the bed, and that was really unfortunate, because we're on the road now. We've got a dog, but that has to get washed. We don't always have time for a, like, a wash and, like, I don't know what you call this, like a fluff and fold. So I'm in Kansas City teaching a class, and while I'm teaching, Brad leaves to go bathe her. So he finds a place that he can bathe her, and he has to leave because it's hot out. He has to leave.Brad Crowell 19:12  So the timing of things, we have a very tight timeline. Lesley Logan 19:16  He leaves the car running with the dogs in the van and the boys. Brad Crowell 19:20  Wait. So, hold on. You're teaching the class. You're teaching the workshop. I have, literally, I have 90 minutes to get up and out, find a place, turn it around, wash the dog, get back. Right?Lesley Logan 19:34  Yeah. So he pulls up to this dog place. Brad Crowell 19:37  Well, the first one I pulled up to, it says on Google Maps that they have a thing in there to wash them. They don't. And I was like, are you, are you kidding? I just wasted 10 minutes coming all the way over here, and you don't have what I need. Lesley Logan 19:49  Yeah, so, so then he now has to go the next one, right? So he goes to the next one. He leaves the car running because it's hot out. It's like 90 something degrees. He leaves it running. And the boys are in the passenger seat, watching Brad take Gaia into the van. They're not okay with this. The pack is not together, somehow, though, while he's washing Gaia, so she's in this tub. Brad Crowell 20:10  So they're in the van, I'm in the store. But the the van's running so that the AC could be blasting. And August. Lesley Logan 20:18  Pressed the window button. Brad Crowell 20:19  He goes to the driver's seat, and shoves his nose, but he touches, he steps on the window button, and the window goes down, and sure enough. Lesley Logan 20:27  Jumps out. Brad Crowell 20:28  Two dogs jump out of the van. Lesley Logan 20:29  And they go up to the store, which has those doors that open by themselves. Brad Crowell 20:32  So before that happened, I'm in the back of the store, and I'm washing Gaia, right? She's covered in shit. All of a sudden, up at the front of the store, I hear, oh no, oh no, right, and this now there's multiple people yelling oh no. And then this lady's running down the store, and she's yelling, hey, sir, sir, I think your dogs just got out of the van. I'm like, holding the hose, and it's one of those timer things. So, like, I'm like, all right, I guess I'm gonna have to get more of that once I figure this other thing out. So I throw the water that's already it's still coming out. I just throw it and like, I'm like, Gaia, you stay. And she's looking at me, like, how could I possibly go anywhere? Right? And so I'm running out towards the van right at the same exact time the double doors of this big dog store open, and both August and Bayon come running into the store.Lesley Logan 21:21  Yeah, they ran into the store. So thankfully, they ran into the store and not, like, down the street. I don't even know what we would have done. At any rate.Brad Crowell 21:28  Yeah, I was, like, I was, because there was a parking lot. Like, there was hundreds of cars. It would have been terrible. Lesley Logan 21:33  Yeah. So they ran into the store, so Brad has to get them. Brad Crowell 21:36  So now I got all three dogs in the back, in the dog washing area, because I'm like, screw it. You guys are with me now. We're just gonna all hang out here. Finish washing Gaia. I blow dry Gaia down. And they were like, hey, can we get you a leash? Because the leashes were in the van. It wasn't like that, you know, so, and I was like, that would be so helpful. So they helped me, like, get the dogs on a leash. And, you know, we troop out of it, and everyone's happy because, you know, the dogs came to be with the pack. Lesley Logan 22:04  Yeah, so. Brad Crowell 22:06  Oh, and then I had to zip back just in time for the end of the workshop so that I could do the raffle. Lesley Logan 22:10  And I'm like, wrapping up this workshop, and he's not there. And I'm like, where the fuck is he? Because I can't, I don't know what I'm raffling off like I had to check people into this next thing. I had no idea this was going on. Anyways, oh my God. So this tour we. Brad Crowell 22:24  Chaos. Lesley Logan 22:25  This tour will be not chaotic. Future tours will not be chaotic because we have one dog. Brad Crowell 22:30  Yes, he's very chill. He just wants to lay next to you.Lesley Logan 22:33  He's very chill. Just wants to lay down. He wants to just be there. So I think it was so this is where we're at. No more shenanigans. Real easy. Roll in, roll out. You guys. We have two tours this year. We have a summer tour in the West Coast, into Canada. Please tell your friends, come make a trip out of it. We're doing some really cool cities. We're going to places you're going to want to travel to, and obviously, East Coast, the South check our Winter Tour list. And if you are living anywhere in the world and you want a tour stop, feel free to go to opc.me/host but opc.me/tour get tickets for you and your friends.Brad Crowell 23:06  If you want a tour stop, meaning you would like to host us, go to opc.me/host. If you would like information about the tour itself, go to opc.me/tour.Lesley Logan 23:16  And all of the classes and workshops are for all levels, so your friends and your family can come. These are not made to be only for teachers. There are CECs for the teachers. And again, our headlining sponsor for these next two tours is Balanced Body and Contrology. Oh, and now we have a contour kit, because we're bringing a Reformer, a mat and a Spine Corrector, so you guys can try those things out.Brad Crowell 23:40  Not a chair? Lesley Logan 23:41  No, we didn't buy the chair. Brad Crowell 23:42  Oh, I thought we did.Lesley Logan 23:44  No, we talked about that. Brad Crowell 23:44  All right, failed. Well, that's fine.Lesley Logan 23:47  I would love another chair. But we discussed that. Brad Crowell 23:50  It is big. It's just a lot.Lesley Logan 23:53  We discussed it. It was not the right thing to buy it until the van's more set up,Brad Crowell 23:58  Yeah. So anyway, come try out all that fun stuff. So what would you say would be a Be It Action Item for this episode? Lesley Logan 24:06  Oh, just go buy a ticket to our upcoming tour, because you're gonna have the best time. You're gonna be in community. If you feel lonely, or if you feel burnt out, or if you feel exhausted, then you come on this tour and you, I fill your cup. I prioritize you, I answer your questions. You get to see people you pass as two ships. You get to maybe meet up with people you had no idea love Pilates the same way you do. These literally bring people together. And it doesn't matter how you started Pilates, how many years been doing Pilates, if you teach who trained you. I don't give a fuck. Being in community is the be it action item. It's important.Brad Crowell 24:45  Cool. So my Be It Action Item is when it comes to projects like this, don't be afraid to make changes after you've decided this is how it should work, right, because, for example, if we didn't sell tickets to a spot why are we driving there, right? And that's a bummer, and that's frustrating, but you have to be able to be fluid enough to make changes in the moment when something isn't working or isn't making sense, or not necessarily in the moment, you have to catch it, you can assess it after the fact and do the post mortem, right? For example, from the Summer Tour '24 to the Winter Tour '24 we decided you clearly shouldn't be teaching nine days in a row. That is not healthy, right? So therefore we put a hard stop six days maximum on the way out to Philadelphia. We only taught one stint of six days. Everything else was five, four days in a row before we took a day off on the way back from Philadelphia, same thing, we only had one stint of six days because we were making adjustments and making changes. So, yeah, but I still agree with you that you should come join us because of community. It is so important, especially now with our virtual world, with loneliness being higher than it's ever been, with social media not helping any of us actually function in our own lives. Even though we've been sold this story that somehow it's gonna connect us better, it fucking doesn't, and it's just making us lonelier. So what we're trying to do is actually bring together people in real life, so that we can support each other and be around each other, because we need it. So we would love to meet you, come join us on these tours. Brad Crowell 26:22  Yes, all right, loves, until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 26:25  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:27  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. 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What started as a holiday workaround turned into a nationwide tour that's touched hundreds of lives. In this behind-the-scenes episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell share the unfiltered origin story of the OPC Tour. From cross-country van trips to pandemic pivots, their journey proves that big dreams are built on small, intentional steps. Tune in to hear how messy action, community love, and a little bit of stubbornness made it all possible.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How a simple book tour idea inspired a cross-country Pilates tour.Their first cross-country drive and unexpected Instagram interest from fans.The rough logistics and lessons from their 2019 tour across 8 cities.How COVID-19 disrupted plans—and why they still bought a van anyway.The importance of staying persistent and evolving with each tour.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/eventsBalanced Body - https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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We wanted to bring the community together, and we wanted to get across the country. Lesley Logan 0:09  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:52  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast with Brad as my guest. Brad Crowell 0:56  What? Who is here? Lesley Logan 0:57  Have we actually done it where you're my guest?Brad Crowell 1:00  Maybe. I mean, I've been on a couple of episodes where we've had, like, a group with some guests, but, like, has it just been you and I on them? Lesley Logan 1:07  But you're also, no, I don't think so. Brad Crowell 1:09  Maybe this is, I'm making a debut, people. Lesley Logan 1:11  All right, so here's the deal. We actually have to, like, do this as if I was introducing that episode, so that there can be an ad break. Brad Crowell 1:18  All right, go ahead. Lesley Logan 1:19  Hey guys. So today's episode is gonna be a little different, because, yes, as you heard, Brad's on the show, and we're gonna be talking a bit about the tour, and I thought it'd be really fun for us to actually take you back in the history of like, how the OPC tours started, why we do them, and just have some talk about the tour this week, because we're coming up on our eighth tour.Brad Crowell 1:40  I can't believe it's been eight. That's like mind blowing, actually. Lesley Logan 1:43  We're crazy people. Brad Crowell 1:44  Maybe a little bit, maybe just a little bit. Lesley Logan 1:46  Okay. So, Brad, do you remember when we did the first tour? Do you remember how the idea came to be?Brad Crowell 1:52  I do remember how the idea came to be. So you and I were in a coaching group, and there was another couple in the group who had written a book. They were very excited about this book, and they wanted to go around the cities and do a book tour launch slash hosting workshops while they were effectively selling their book. Lesley Logan 2:11  Yeah. And we were like, well, how can we go on a book tour? Because, I mean, yes, I have a book, but I didn't want to, like, go on a tour about the book. I was like, that doesn't really, I don't know if that's something I could do all the time. We're like, what if I, like, what, how can we go on a tour? And then, because you were a touring musician.Brad Crowell 2:25  Right, as soon as I, as soon as I heard them say that, and we started talking, I was like, we could just teach Pilates classes as we drive around on a tour. Like, hello. So obvious. Why did we not think of it before? Lesley Logan 2:37  The year, so we need to go back a year before that, Brad. So the only reason we actually thought we could do a tour in 2019 was because in 2018 I put my feet in the sand and said, I'm not flying home for the holidays. I'm not doing it. I love your family, but I can't do another flight. We've already done 150,000 miles of flying. I've been everywhere, and I hate flying at Christmas time. And also, for some reason, guys, LAX to Philly is almost impossible to find a nonstop flight. It's impossible to find a nonstop flight from Las Vegas to Philly, and so you have to fly red eyes, which is annoying because it's four and a half hours, not six hours, so you're not getting any sleep. And then you land there, and it's 11am somehow, and you're like, how?Brad Crowell 3:22  Yeah, you land at seven, by the time you get back to the house, it's 10:30, yeah, I mean, it's.Lesley Logan 3:26  Annoying. Brad Crowell 3:26  Not great. Lesley Logan 3:26  Anyways. Also, the last time we flew in 2017, I did finally fall asleep. And then, of course, the lights come on and they're like, is there a doctor on the plane? And I was just like, if they land this plane, if someone is not, of course, I want people to live. I'm not an asshole. But also I was finally asleep. So anyways, because we had done a cross-country tour. Brad Crowell 3:50  Trip. Lesley Logan 3:50  Trip, trip, in 2018. Brad Crowell 3:51  We just, we just rented a car, let's just go east, basically. And we didn't have an agenda other than we just had a couple of friends along the way that we were interested in seeing and saying hi to, and that was it. Lesley Logan 4:05  Just kind of based on, like, how many hours we thought, like, together we could drive. And, okay, that gets us here at night. And, oh, we have friends in St Louis. Okay, we can go here. So we have this tiny little car with the two dogs, and we drove. Brad Crowell 4:17  And we rented an SUV. But I was like, oh, you know, I don't need a, I don't need like a huge Tahoe or Chevy Suburban or anything. We could just get a regular SUV. It was so small, y'all. Lesley Logan 4:28  I don't know how they can call it an SUV. You guys, it was like, no, this is not an SUV. If you put a family of five in there, you couldn't have the groceries in the car, like it was so small. But anyways, it was just the two of us and the two dogs. And when we were on this trip, I was like, posting on Instagram, and this is before you really used Instagram for business, but I was posting like, oh, we're here. You know, I feel like, are you teaching here? And I was like, oh, people want us to teach here. I didn't know people would want your class on the holidays. So this had happened in 2018. Brad Crowell 4:56  That's right. Lesley Logan 4:57  Fast forward to October of 2019, and we are hearing this, and we're like, well, how can we do, so we had the, we knew.Brad Crowell 5:04  Kind of like had like I, like, we, we'd been prompted by our members from OPC, but that didn't actually turn into like we're going to do this tour thing next year, until this other couple was talking about their book launch, you're right. So, that was like, the second step to push us, if we're, like, to make it happen. Lesley Logan 5:21  Yeah and because we knew we could do the drive. Brad Crowell 5:22  Right, because we just done it the previous year, and we drove, you know, we drove both ways, you know, back and forth. Lesley Logan 5:28  Yeah. So we actually did the posters on the wall. I should have grabbed it for the visual, but we did, like, eight or nine cities, actually, we did on the very first we did Las Vegas. Brad Crowell 5:37  So that was 2019. Lesley Logan 5:39  We did Las Vegas, Denver, we did. Brad Crowell 5:43  Did we do St Louis? Lesley Logan 5:44  I don't know that we did St Louis. We did, no, we did Libertyville. So we did outside of Chicago, and then we did, like, some other ville, like, which was outside of Cleveland, but not Cleveland. Brad Crowell 5:55  Yeah, it was close to Cleveland, though. Lesley Logan 5:57  And then we did Lehigh Valley. Brad Crowell 6:00  Right, yeah, it was like, basically Bethlehem. Lesley Logan 6:03  And then we did Nashville, and then we did Atlanta. Brad Crowell 6:06  Oh, we did Nashville? Lesley Logan 6:07  Yeah. Brad Crowell 6:08  Oh. Lesley Logan 6:08  It was huge, like, 30 people, and that's why it's so, and people were like are you in Nashville, you guys are not, like, ever since then, not such a great follow up, you guys are not great. Love you. We want to go, trust me, we want to do Nashville. Um, then we did Atlanta, and then we did Austin, and then we did Phoenix. Brad Crowell 6:28  Geez, I don't even know how you remember these things. Lesley Logan 6:30  And then, I know, and then, and then, I don't know that we considered it part of the tour, although very much was. It was in January, we did Redlands, and then the world shut down. And then, so our first tour. Brad Crowell 6:46  We did Scottsdale. It was the last stop. Lesley Logan 6:48  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did this really cool place in Scottsdale. Brad Crowell 6:51  Yeah. So I actually just pulled up the list. You nailed it, Vegas to Denver, to Chicago, which is Libertyville, to Cleveland, which is Strongsville, your second ville.Lesley Logan 6:58  I said it was another ville. Brad Crowell 6:59  I'm so impressed. Then Lehigh Valley, which is Bethlehem, and then Nashville, Austin and Scottsdale. Yeah. I am impressed. Lesley Logan 7:06  And then there was like, this little post tour stop in Redlands, which was not part of the tour. We added it in after the fact, but it was so fun. And it was like the true die hards, you know, the people who know the band before they make it to Coachella. It was like.Brad Crowell 7:20  Scottsdale was insane to me, that people even came out. It was like, negative 4 million degrees hot, and we had an outdoor venue. Lesley Logan 7:28  It was New Year's Eve. It was New Year's Eve at an outdoor venue. Brad Crowell 7:32  We literally had, like, it was, like, every three mats, there was a space heater, and everyone was like, oh my God, it's so cool. We're doing Pilates outside on January 1st. What are we doing? Lesley Logan 7:40  We all got warm enough, and it was super fun. And it was so great. Brad Crowell 7:44  It was so fun. Lesley Logan 7:45  It was sold out. It was such a great spot. And people, like, came from Canada, there, it was just like crazy. So, at any rate, it was so much fun, and we wanted new, we knew we want to do it again, but then, of course, the pandemic happened. But here's what got to happen, guys, so the pandemic happened, Brad and I still drove across the U.S., but we thought. Brad Crowell 8:01  I was just looking at the ticket sales, we had 133 tickets sold on that first tour.Lesley Logan 8:07  On the first tour, yeah. But we did that with a Tahoe, by the way. Brad Crowell 8:11  What, the second tour? After the first tour.Lesley Logan 8:15  No, no, we went to the Tahoe for the first tour. We went to the Tahoe. Brad Crowell 8:18  2019 yeah, you're right, yeah, because we knew that the tiny little SUV wasn't going to cut it, especially because we were bringing, like, stuff, and it was gonna be a little more of a robust tour. So we rented a Tahoe, and that was fine-ish, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't ideal, though, because, like, there was no real, yes, you could lay down on the back seat. We had this, the back, the middle seat was laid flat, but like, you know, it wasn't comfortable trying to sleep in the passenger seats sucks, like.Lesley Logan 8:45  Yeah, and also, you guys, we also, because we're going to places where we had clients, it wasn't necessarily places where we had friends, and so we were getting hotels. We had a hotel in Denver. We stayed in the financial district. Brad Crowell 8:57  Oh, I forgot we did. Lesley Logan 8:58  And then, in Libertyville we did stay at the host, like, basement, but Gaia had an accident. We're like, my God, we can't stay in people's houses, because Gaia's old. At any rate, it was really fun, and we, like, did it, but then with the pandemic, we obviously couldn't do it again. But what we did do during the year of 2020, was we actually bought the van, and because we knew we wanted a tour vehicle, and thank God we bought it, even though we weren't going on tour that year because they wanted to pay us what we paid for that van, like people were like, clamoring to get that van off our hands. But we got the van, you guys, we took it across the country in less than 48 hours. We drove from Las Vegas.Brad Crowell 9:34  That was 55 on the way home. Yep, 55 hours solid, from Philadelphia to Vegas. Lesley Logan 9:39  We, but on the way there, I don't think that van ever really stopped, because we tried to sleep in Vail on a mattress on the metal base of this cargo van. Brad Crowell 9:50  So okay, so here's what this looks like. We buy a cargo van. A cargo van is an empty box on wheels. Okay? And we bought the longest and the tallest, so it's 23 feet long, it's nine and change tall. And it's a big, it's a big, empty box. Lesley Logan 10:07  We've loaded it up. We have pictures of you and the empty box. Brad Crowell 10:09  The only thing that we did was throw things on the floor. There was nothing else in there. We literally had a mattress with six blankets on it, right? And then we had boxes and suitcases. Lesley Logan 10:21  Everything had to be tied on the walls. Brad Crowell 10:23  We took our, we took our, this is so fun, we raided our own laundry room because in the laundry room we have one of those wheelie situations where you could throw your dirty laundry, but then you could hang clean laundry up at the top. So I took that out of the laundry room, and I zip tied it to the wall of the van, bungee corded it to the wall of the van, and that became like, how did we store? How did we do our clothes, you know? So, like, that was our closet. Lesley Logan 10:49  It was crazy, because then we were driving back with all these boxes, I just felt like everything was gonna fly on us. Anyways, so, Erika Quest shout out to Erika Quest, she had a dream about us the night we were sleeping in Vail, because we're in the Walmart parking in Vail. So we pull into this Walmart parking lot in Vail, and I'm in the bed. Went into the six blankets. We got the three dogs. You're under the blankets. It's great. It's actually fine, because, like, we blasted the heat. Everything's fine. Brad Crowell 11:11  I mean, it was cold, like cold in your face, but it was like the mummy bags when you went camping as a kid. Lesley Logan 11:16  Yeah. So, so great. So anyways, we're halfway through the night, we're sleeping so good and then August stands up to turn around in the bed, and he basically just twists all the blankets off of us. And in that instant, you and I both were awake. Brad Crowell 11:29  I was so angry. Lesley Logan 11:29  And so angry and so cold. Brad Crowell 11:30  Because I had just gone to sleep. It was midnight when I pulled in, and then I was literally asleep for two hours, and then he pulled all the blankets off of all of us by twirling around. And I was so frustrated about it, and it was eight degrees out, and I was like, screw it, we're just gonna continue to drive to Denver.Lesley Logan 11:47  Erika Quest had a dream that night that we were cold. She had a dream that we were really cold. And I said, well, you don't have to worry, because Brad drove us to Denver, where it was a little bit warmer. Brad Crowell 11:56  It was 30 degrees in Denver, it was so much warmer. Lesley Logan 11:58  So much more tolerable to sleep in. At any rate, we, like, got across the country, and people are like, oh, I wish you were doing the tour. And it's like, yeah, well, it's COVID. It's very unsafe, we cannot do it. But we were able to plan how much driving is possible. What do we want to do, and how we want to do this. And then, we did in 2021.Brad Crowell 12:14  We suppose, oh, that was '21. Lesley Logan 12:17  Yeah. So then, 2021, we were vaccinated, we were ready. We planned this whole tour, but we planned a small one. It was actually, I don't think it was as big as our first one, because. Brad Crowell 12:28  No, it was only like. Lesley Logan 12:30  Seven cities or something like that, because we, we, I think our first stop was going to be Pennsylvania.Brad Crowell 12:34  It was Philly, New York, like, city, Atlanta, Miami, Dallas. We were talking about Providence, but we postponed it, so it was only five. Lesley Logan 12:45  It was really small. And we actually had to cancel Philly and New York City, because along the route, I was exposed to COVID. I didn't know that I had it. And thankfully, someone texted me, and everything was going crazy at the time that variant came up. So we still did the tour. It was quite small. The (inaudible) happened and. Brad Crowell 13:03  We have way more time at my parents house than we normally do.Lesley Logan 13:07  A lot of time it was super fun, but we knew we're like, like, we want these tours to be a thing. And I ought to share this with you, because when you're being it till you see it, way of doing things, this is how long goals can take. Brad Crowell 13:17  2018 was our first cross country drive. 2019 was the first tour, 2020 was canceled. 2021 was, was. Lesley Logan 13:25  Was already going to be a smaller tour, because of the pandemic. Brad Crowell 13:29  It was five stops max. Lesley Logan 13:31  And by the way, every stop we picked were like huge spaces that's why they were picked.Brad Crowell 13:35  Yeah, we actually picked large rooms. Lesley Logan 13:37  Huge spaces. The Philly one was like softball, baseball, indoor practice arena, it was like 3000 square feet.Brad Crowell 13:42  I think they only started vaccinating people a couple months prior. Lesley Logan 13:45  No, this summer we got vaccinated. Brad Crowell 13:47  It was the summer, yeah. Six months.Lesley Logan 13:49  Yeah, so, but there was the booster, and then there's the thing. Anyways, because it was the holidays, we wanted to be conscientious. We want to make sure people felt safe. So we're like, these studios are massive, and we're only filling half the spaces. So at any rate, we really kind of got sidelined on that first half of that tour, but we got to do it. We got to do the second half, and we got to do Miami, Atlanta and Dallas, but then we were able to meet up with Balanced Body in the march of the next year. We got to tell them what we were doing. Got to get them really excited, and that's when we actually got to actually start to make our tours even bigger and better and add the Summer Tour.Brad Crowell 14:25  So that was tour number four. Lesley Logan 14:27  Tour number four was our first Summer Tour.Brad Crowell 14:28  It was the first with Balanced Body. That was the first Summer Tour. And we've been telling Balanced Body about these tours from the beginning. Lesley Logan 14:35  October of 2019, I told them what we were doing, and Ken and Al were like, oh, can you put a Reformer in that van? Anyways, all this to say this was like years in the making. And we'll, and next episode, we'll actually go into a bit about, like, why we work with a sponsor, what our tours have like become because they are bigger. They used to be, like, two weeks long, eight cities, five cities, and then they became 14 and 18 and 22 and and now we're getting like, 800 people to come and some amazing things. Lesley Logan 15:05  I want to wrap this up with some, be it action items, because I think that that's what is really important. So you'll do some, Brad, I'll do some. We never get to do, but that's, this will buy me time, because I didn't prepare you for this. One of the best things I could say is take a note of when those little things go, oh, I want to do something like that, even if you're like, wow, that's crazy. Why would I even think of that idea? It's such a crazy idea. Pay attention to those crazy nudges and then make it something that's possible to do now, because a lot of people come with an idea, oh, I'm gonna go on a book tour and I'm gonna have sponsors, and have this, and have this. We literally had like, two prizes. We had no sponsors. Brad Crowell 15:44  Yeah, I think, I think you might have got called Toesox and, or, you know, like.Lesley Logan 15:48  Yeah, I called Toesox and Carbon38. Brad Crowell 15:50  And we just said, hey, can you give us some socks? That was the cool thing. We want to do a giveaway. Lesley Logan 15:55  We didn't have any paid sponsors. We didn't have local vendors coming through. We did not make anything bigger. Brad Crowell 16:01  We also didn't even know that that was what we should turn into. It was more like, initially, it was an excuse to not fly and drive across the country, and then it grew. And each tour became more complex. Lesley Logan 16:16  I think the Be It Action Item was like, don't over complicate something, just try the smallest version of the idea out that has the intentionality of what you want. We wanted to bring the community together, and we wanted to get across the country. And the original tours basically paid for the gas.Brad Crowell 16:32  Not even exaggerating, they paid for the gas. And the one hotel that we stayed at. Initially, that was the vision. It was literally like, how do we pay for gas? Oh, let's teach a class. Great. We made $200 on it, let's pay the gas.Lesley Logan 16:45  How do we make sure the holiday trip is a write off? Let's work a few to have, you, technically it's some work 50% of the trip, and then it's a write off. So make sure you talk to your accountant. But anyways, so my Be It Action Item is do the least complex version of the idea and see if you'd like it. Because each time we did the tour, we'd get from like Philly to Nashville in a night, that was insane we're like we're never doing that again. Lesley Logan 17:09  Like Texarkana or something weird. I remember that. Lesley Logan 17:11  Yes, and we've like 12 hours to get from Nashville to there. Brad Crowell 17:14  We drove 14 hours in one day. That was brutal. Lesley Logan 17:17  Yeah, that was brutal, because we had to teach so, so we learned from by making it not complex, we actually got to learn a lot more. That's really helped us. You'll hear about how the tours have changed. What's your Be It Action Item?Brad Crowell 17:28  Okay. So my Be It Action Item, with that, I was gonna say take messy action but I mean, that's, we're pretty famous for that. I think that persistency, you know, like we didn't know the studio owners that we were trying to teach at? It wasn't like we were calling our friends in random cities and being like, hey, can we teach there? We started just reaching out to people and saying here's what our idea is. Is this of interest to you? And it was because we were persistent that we even found a location. Because I remember it was like, No. It was like, oh, okay, all right. Well, I guess this is the wrong location. No problem. We'll find another. Because for us, we knew, okay, this is the right stop, you know, this is approximately when we would want to be stopping driving for the day, when we should be teaching somewhere near here. How do we find a spot? You know, and working backwards, there's some logic there. But also we still have to find the people. We still have to meet the people, and then we have to be creative with the marketing. I remember at first we were like, We don't know anybody in Libertyville, Ohio. How can we, you know, connect with people, or Strongsville, Ohio, sorry, yeah, you're right. And I remember we started using Instagram hashtags to just hunt down Pilates people in the area and just leave it in voice notes, like. Lesley Logan 18:45  That was very, we were very persistent. You're correct, very persistent. And then I think, just to tack onto that, and then we'll wrap this up, because we'll tell you more on the next episode, not being afraid of rejection. One of the things we had to do was, like, you're gonna have stops turn you away. Like, no, I don't want to do that. We had people go, why are you doing that? They were like, really sketchy about us. Brad Crowell 19:04  We just had it happen yesterday with our eighth tour coming up, where someone you know was like, actually, this is the wrong time of the year for my clients. So no, he's like, oh, okay. Lesley Logan 19:14  It's not personal,. All right, loves. Well, stay tuned for how these tours have gotten to be bigger and even better and better for you, and better for my sleep and all those things in our next episode. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:29  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:31  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 20:13  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:18  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:23  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 20:30  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 20:33  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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You can't change everything about yourself all at one time. You have to pick and choose and go, okay, well, what can I do here? Like, if you look at BJ Fogg, if he's like, I'm frustrated because I'm working on this project and I'm not sleeping enough, so I want to sleep better. He actually was like, okay, how, what are all the different ways I could sleep better? Well, he's not going to do all of those things. He, actually, to make a habit, had to go what are the three easiest things of what I just came up with that I want to do, and then how can I do that? Lesley Logan 0:26  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:09  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the hilariously intentional convo I had with Launa Jae in our last episode. If you haven't listened to that one you've missed the fuck out.Brad Crowell 1:21  You totally missed out. Lesley Logan 1:22  It's so good. I mean, we're two good friends, so that's always a fun conversation to be in. But also, she just has the most hilarious way of putting things in a way that just makes you stop and take it all in. And we are just obsessed with her. So anyway, Brad Crowell 1:36  Yes, 100%.Lesley Logan 1:37  If you're not following her on Instagram, you are missing out, because her stories are my favorite. Every morning, to this day, she still does good morning to everyone except and it's something, and then there's other people who also do this and tag her, and so she reposts theirs. And then I just die laughing. So anyways, you gotta go follow her. Gotta go follow her. I promise you, it's really great. And she gives great tips and great hacks on gaining protein in your life, because all, y'all ladies over 40, it's a fucking feat to get enough protein every day. Brad Crowell 2:04  And if you're watching YouTube, I'm wearing a shirt you referenced. Lesley Logan 2:08  Oh, that's so funny. What a great timing.  Brad Crowell 2:11  Yeah, punch nails, I'm sorry, paint nails, punch Nazis. Lesley Logan 2:14  We should have that guy on the pod. Brad Crowell 2:16  We should have that guy on the pod.Lesley Logan 2:17  Yeah, we should send him.Brad Crowell 2:19  We'll work that out.Lesley Logan 2:20  His name, I think, is Jonathan Gregory or Gregory Jonathan, it's one of those handles that I'm like, he must have gotten famous after he made this weird handle. So, yeah, I gotta get him on. Okay, let's get back to, (inaudible) first we're going to talk about how today is June 5th, my dad's birthday.Brad Crowell 2:35  Oh, it is your dad's birthday.Lesley Logan 2:38  Brad. He's like, oh my God, all these days. It's like, this person's from the reality TV show day. I'm like, how does that person have a day and I don't have a day?Brad Crowell 2:45  It was Veggie Burger Day, and at the same exact day, Sausage Roll Day. I was like, did they do that on purpose? I think they did.Lesley Logan 2:52  I think Launa Jae would agree that you could have a veggie burger or a sausage roll. If you are doing your protein, right, you can. But today is Happy Birthday, Dad. You are 73. Way to go. But it's also World Environment Day. This day urges all of us to protect our natural surroundings. The stunning facts, an estimated 7 million people die each year from causes related to air pollution, with a majority occurring in the Asian Pacific region. This day encourages worldwide activism that means everything from littering to climate change. World Environment Day is both a global celebration and a platform for public outreach. You guys, plant plants that are local to your freaking place. That is one of the best things you can do. You know, it's really great, because in the water, we live in Vegas, we are increasingly aware of our water, what plants we have. On windy days, you got to go out there and pick up the trash, like, take care of the world around you. It's really hard when you think about, like, oh my God, the global warming. I can't, we can't fix everything, so you got to at least get your neighbors on board. How much water are you using? How much are you planting? How much trash are we throwing away, you know.Brad Crowell 3:54  Yeah, get rid of your grass in your front yard, you don't need it. Lesley Logan 3:56  Yeah, get rid of it. Also. It doesn't even absorb water. There was a whole episode on the Love It or Lose It odcast years ago about how actual grass is not trapping water. So that was news to me.Brad Crowell 4:09  Yeah, you know, Lesley Logan 4:10  Educate yourself on little things you can do.Brad Crowell 4:12  Well, it's a hill that the city of Vegas is dying on. They enacted a law that says you have to, by 2026, I think all front yards have to be non-grass.Lesley Logan 4:22  Yeah, we got a neighbor, you guys, their grass is so green all year long. And it is infuriating to me. It's infuriating to me. First of all, when I walk the dog in the morning, though the sidewalk is soaking wet because of how they water, and how they water is why their grass is so green. And it's not like a little yard. It's like a full on eighth of an acre of grass. It's perfectly green.Brad Crowell 4:42  I know exactly which house you mean. Lesley Logan 4:43  Yeah, oh, yeah. And because they water so much, there's something wrong with their sidewalk, it's literally slippery. You can literally slip while walking. And I'm just like, I can't wait till this grass is gone. I'm going to report you. January 1st 2026, first day I see that grass. My neighbor has grass.Brad Crowell 4:59  I don't know if it's Jan. 21 or Jan. 1st, but, yeah.Lesley Logan 5:00  I'm gonna be that Karen. That's the Karen I'm gonna be. Brad Crowell 5:05  That's the Karen (inaudible). Lesley Logan 5:06  If you got fucking front yard grass, I'm coming. Anyways, these are the things we can do and educate yourself on your water usage, but also, just like what you can do in your environment, you know, we all can't drive electric cars. All that, it's not, don't worry about the things you can't do, focus on the things you can. And it actually feels really great. Okay, oh, we have events. You guys, we're going on tour. Brad Crowell 5:27  Yeah, we got a lot going on. Lesley Logan 5:28  You'll hear more about that soon, but the tickets are already for sale, they've been on sale for a couple weeks. And it's a huge Summer Tour. It's not a small Summer Tour, it's a huge Summer Tour. But the spaces are limited, because when you go to cities on the West Coast, what you will learn, like some places in the northeast, is that rent is hard and expensive, and so spaces are small, which means space is limited. So you want to get in on this tour and snag your spots and the classes and workshops before they sell out, opc.me/events.Brad Crowell 5:55  opc.me/events Lesley Logan 5:56  Also, I really think our tour shirt is epic.Brad Crowell 5:59  It's a really cool tour shirt. I'm very excited about this.  Lesley Logan 6:02  This is my new favorite thing. I look up tour shirts from other things, and then I tell the team do this. And I don't think anyone notices what I'm doing, but I know what I'm doing. And then in September, you guys, we're going to be in the U.K. Leeds only has a few spots left. Essex, we actually opened up the opportunity to do day spot. So you can either do the full day Tuesday, the full day Wednesday, you want to go to opc.me/uk and again, also, not very many spots. So if you do the full weekend pass, or two day pass, you get six workshops, two classes. But if you do the day pass, you get three workshops and a class. So you want to snag those spots. We're not coming back for quite a bit, not because we don't like you, just. Brad Crowell 6:43  Don't know when. Do not know when. . Lesley Logan 6:45  Don't know when. That's how the world goes.   Brad Crowell 6:46  Last time we waited two years. Lesley Logan 6:49  Yeah. Also, before summer tour and U.K., I'm hosting a workout and a Q&A session for teachers, this is for Pilates teachers who are interested in my mentorship program. We are more than half sold out at the time that we are recording this. In fact, like, not, there's actually not a lot of spots in next year, but we're going to.  Brad Crowell 7:06  Yeah, there's literally, there's less than nine spots left.Lesley Logan 7:09  Yeah, so less than nine spots. And we're gonna have.Brad Crowell 7:11  I say that because I'm talking to a handful of people, and there are currently nine, and I think they're going to be booked, so. Lesley Logan 7:17  Yeah. Yeah. So here's the deal, go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist to get on the waitlist to get the information about the free class and the Q&A session. If you are someone who wants to take the class and ask questions, that's gonna be great. If you're someone who's like, I want in on this. I don't want to wait. Well, you know how to hunt us down, because that's clearly how it's filling up behind closed doors. But lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist this is for comprehensively trained teachers who want to not freaking talk so much, be in imposter syndrome, over work themselves out, all the things, yeah, come and join us. Okay, Brad, your turn. Brad Crowell 7:53  All right. So I'm very excited to make this special announcement. We have decided to bring back Agency Mini.Lesley Logan 8:01  I know you guys, this is really exciting. We said, no, it's done, and it was, and it, actually, the Agency, Mini, you know, and was very loved.Brad Crowell 8:09  It's still done. Lesley Logan 8:09  It's still done. This is a, this is a new Mini, new and improved. Brad Crowell 8:13  This is a mini Mini. Lesley Logan 8:14  It's like, it's a, it is a mini mini. An M-I-N-I M-I-N-I mini Mini. And that is because we took all the, all the things people loved about Mini, and got rid of all the things people didn't love about Mini. So no more Facebook groups, no more seven days. No more overwhelm. This is a three-day Mini. You're gonna get a workshop on day one. You have homework on day two. You will have a office, a group call on day three, there's like couple extra days of replays you'll have some access to, and that's it, and it's (claps) awesome, quick.Brad Crowell 8:47  Easy and effective and really exciting. What we're going to be digging into is some of the foundational marketing things that you need to know on how to attract your own clients. Like, how do I attract the right clients for me, clients that actually want to work with, clients who pay me without complaining, clients who show up on time. How do I do all of that? Right? And we're going to dig in. I cannot wait. This is one of the, one of the favorite topics that Lesley and I have spoken on over the years.Lesley Logan 9:13  And if, even if you're like, oh, I slay at my marketing, if you don't actually help the clients you want to be teaching, or people who treat you or making the money you want to make, you need to be at this Mini, because we're going to actually fill in the holes. We're like, oh, I didn't do that. Oh, that's the thing. It's going to be amazing.Brad Crowell 9:28  Yeah. So by the time this comes out, I think we're still on the waitlist, believe it or not. So it'll be.Lesley Logan 9:34  The early bird will be opening, like, in the next week or two, so you probably want to go to prfit.biz/mini, to get on the waitlist, and or if it's open, you'll see how to buy in right there. It's going to be in July, the middle of July, before we take off on tour, and it's going.Brad Crowell 9:47  Early bird is 25 bucks. So don't miss it.   Lesley Logan 9:50  Yeah. Don't miss it, because we don't want you to actually pay the full price. That's why we have the early bird. We want you to plan ahead.Brad Crowell 9:54  60% off. Lesley Logan 9:55  Yeah, I love how we did this out of calendar order today. But you know what? It keeps you on your toes.Brad Crowell 10:01  What? Lesley Logan 10:02  Well, we started with the tour, which is after Mini.Brad Crowell 10:04  Oh yeah 100%. We did. Lesley Logan 10:06  Anyways. But for sure, at the end of this year is Cambodia in October. You guys, if this is your first time hearing about this, and you've never heard about how amazing our retreat in Siem Reap is, it's amazing. If you have heard us every single week, you know it's amazing. And if you're like I really want to do this, come, come, come, come. I know everything is crazy and uncertain. Let me just tell you right now, the flight prices to Asia are the same, whether you buy them today or six weeks before. Why? Because people have done that. Want you to go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot because the small group, we're taking a very, very small group this October, we want you there, and it's going to be such a great time to just get rid of all the chaos and be in the coolest place in the whole world. Brad Crowell 10:45  It's so true and it's so cool.  Lesley Logan 10:46  We've been to a lot of places. Brad Crowell 10:47  If you want to deep dive on that, go back a couple weeks and there's some solo episodes from Lesley and from me about our love for why we do this trip, all the things. So dig in on that. All right. Well, before we get any further, we had an audience question. So @emilyanahata from YouTube asks, hey, how do I know which chair is the right for me? And I'm assuming she's talking about a Pilates chair. What are some questions I can ask myself to get a better idea? Thank you. And I am going to jump in. I'm just going to say, traditionally, you want a chair that has four legs, right? And then maybe a seat. That'll be good. That's the kind of chair you want. Those are great questions. Doesn't have four. You might be able to get away with three, but I don't think two is going to cut it.Lesley Logan 11:30  No, yeah, the three, that's more like a stool.   Brad Crowell 11:34  That's a stool. Lesley Logan 11:34  Yeah. Okay, so this is really great. And actually, she followed up with some really interesting questions, which is, like, she's heard that, like, should she get a Split Pedal EXO Chair? She did this. And so I actually followed up with like, are you a teacher? So here's the deal, what I know is, I'm gonna answer this in two ways. If you're a teacher, then you actually should get the Chair that best suits your style of teaching. And what I often see teachers do is they get a Chair that they can afford versus a Chair that was designed for their self-teaching. If, so Emily's not a teacher, so the Split Pedal, if you were trained to teach on Split Pedals, if you like to teach on Split Pedals, then get a Chair with Split Pedals, because you'll be annoyed that the pedal doesn't split, it doesn't do what you want. But if you are not trained on a Split Pedal, then the Split Pedal is actually going to be frustrating, because it's going to feel different, sound different than what you're used to. And Emily's not a teacher, so then it's just going to be confusing, and then she won't use a Chair without having been trained on how to use the Chair. And I want people who love Pilates to have access at home to equipment that they want and they can use, and it's not confusing. So this is not a knock against Split Pedals EXO Chairs. Obviously, we know and love Balanced Body. We are, we have affiliate links with them. We are dear, dear friends with the founders, and we are sponsored for the tour. So get that if you want to use it, but if you are just like, I want to get stronger. I want to work on my posture. I want to work on my strength. My suggestion is going to be the Contrology Chair because without seeing you, Emily, the dimensions are great for every body, no matter if you're big or small, hyper mobile, tall or short, the pedal angle is just really great.Brad Crowell 13:11  It's also very solid. Lesley Logan 13:12  It's really solid. Brad Crowell 13:13  You're not gonna have to worry about it, like, you know.Lesley Logan 13:15  And it's super, it's not confusing. You don't have four springs to choose from. Like, I find that if you are not trained as a teacher on that equipment, it becomes confusing. If there's lots of spring choices, it's two springs, three hooks on either side. Really easy to figure out what you need to be doing. But for anyone listening, having a chair that's right for you, the easiest answer is like, I just love a Contrology, I love a Contrology Chair. You can stand on it. I could put a heavy person on it, I could put a tall person on it. It's gonna be great. Put a short person on it.Brad Crowell 13:40  I did a handstand on one.Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah, you totally did it, and it was fine. But questions to ask yourself are, is the pedal angle gonna be appropriate for the height and flexibility of my hips? Right? Is the top of the chair big enough to support my full seat? Can I lay on it on my front? Can I lay it on my back? Does the Chair feel sturdy if I stand on top, if I go to step on top of it does it feel like it's sturdy? Some of these Chairs are really light. I've seen some interesting ones now that are floating around that are a few 100 bucks. I worry about the weight of the body. I'm not talking a larger body. I'm talking like just any body. So some questions to ask yourself, are like, can it withstand the weight of my body standing on it, and then can I adjust the springs tension so that it meets me where I am, or is it like kind of the same spring tension, whether you use like, if you only have one or two? So anyways, those are some things to ask yourself, but always happy to give you my links, you guys, to anything that Balanced Body makes, and that's our Contrology line as well. Brad Crowell 14:37  Yeah, awesome, well. Lesley Logan 14:39  I just want to say I love that she's gonna get herself a Chair, because everyone's so fucking obsessed with having a home reformer. And then they're like, I need it to fit under my bed. And it's like, uh, no, if you have a small space, get a Wunda Chair, get a Spine Corrector, get a Two by Four, get a Sand bag, get a Ped-o-Pull. So many things you can get yourself, and then you could go take a Reformer at a studio, right? Okay. Brad Crowell 14:58  I dig it. Well, look. Stick around. We'll be right back. Lesley Logan 15:01  Oh, Brad, hold on. Brad Crowell 15:02  What? Lesley Logan 15:02  You guys, we have a link for you guys to submit your questions, because some of you have been like, how do I submit my question?  Brad Crowell 15:08  Yes, we do. Lesley Logan 15:08  Where do I submit them? And it is. Brad Crowell 15:10  We totally do. Lesley Logan 15:12  beitpod.com/questions you can also send. Brad Crowell 15:16  beitpod.com/questions plural. Lesley Logan 15:17  You can also submit your wins. There's a spot whether it's a question or a win. So, beitpod.com/questions with the s at the end and then send it. Brad Crowell 15:25  Yeah, submit your wins. Submit your question. Lesley Logan 15:27  Yep, anything, anything goes. Sometimes it doesn't have to be Pilates-related. Anything goes.  Brad Crowell 15:30  Good job. Good remembering.Lesley Logan 15:31  Let's talk about Launa. Brad Crowell 15:33  Stick around. We'll be right back, because we're gonna talk about shit and rainbows in just a minute.  Brad Crowell 15:38  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Launa Jae. Launa is a Dallas-based nutrition and fitness coach who specializes in helping people get unstuck without feeling restricted. What does that mean? She is an anti-diet coach and a food freedom expert for high-achieving women. She's passionate about helping others make progress, stay accountable and create sustainable results in both health and in life, and she's hilarious, like, hilarious.Lesley Logan 16:09  She's so funny. That's why the shit and rainbows come from. Also, she, you could even listen to her first episode being on here. Like, there's just so many things that she says, and her descriptive words are perfect. So one of the things that I love that she said is negative emotion is literally just an indication that you're out of alignment with who you are in your true inner being, experiencing debilitating negative emotions that led to stress, and then that led to physical illness. And then she realized a common denominator in all of them was her. So she was prioritizing her to-do list over her well being. So she would wake up, check emails and prioritize her to do list and not like what she needed. And it's so fun to see her. She's obviously switched this. And so you can actually see it in her Instagram if you follow her, she's like, well, I'm at the gym. Didn't want to be here, but I'm doing the workout even though I didn't want to be here, because she's prioritizing herself, right? She's making sure she gets what she needs. And so after doing all this, she was able. I love the self-reflection. I think that's really hard to do, so I love that she self-reflected, and then she concluded that these negative feelings signaled a disconnect between her actions and her authentic self. So who she was telling people what to do for them themselves, and then what she was doing for herself. When we're when we have that dissonance, our brain doesn't like it. It is overwhelming, and we get resentful, and that's negative, right? So instead of just brushing off us having a bad day, she used those feelings as signals that something was out of alignment. And I think it's really cool, if you can figure out in your day and in your life, like, oh, when I feel like this, it's like a little yellow light, hello. This is a sign you're out of alignment. You guys, at the park that I walk the dog at every 30 minutes. This voice comes on these speakers. Brad Crowell 17:41  It does? Lesley Logan 17:42  Yes. Brad Crowell 17:42  At our park? Lesley Logan 17:43  Yes. Brad Crowell 17:44  Like, over the loud speakers in the park? Lesley Logan 17:45  Yes. Brad Crowell 17:46  That's like, creepy.Lesley Logan 17:47  So fucking creepy. It's a little bit like in South Korea when I crossed the street when it was a red light, and this Korean voice, like, came out of nowhere. And I was like, I don't know what you're saying, but I could, like, in the U.S., I could cross the street right now, no one's coming. Anyways, this voice goes, dude, it's like, do-ding-do and then she goes, da-da-da-da-da. She, I don't know what she's saying, but the point of this whole story is, like, find something in your day that can be a sign that, like, oop, I've stepped over the line of being out of alignment. And it could go ding-dong-ding-ding-ding-ding. Brad Crowell 18:22  I don't really know what's happening right now.Lesley Logan 18:23  Listen, let me finish. Let me finish. You are out of alignment. You haven't prioritized yourself. Brad Crowell 18:29  Like an elevator chime.Lesley Logan 18:30  Yes, like an elevator chime. And then like a lovely. Brad Crowell 18:33  You are out of alignment. This, to me, is like a sci-fi movie where it's like, welcome to the ground floor. And then, like.Lesley Logan 18:41  You, Brad, you said you wanted to cold plunge, and you have not done that yet, turn around, go back in there, take care of yourself first.Brad Crowell 18:51  You will hate yourself later if you don't cold plunge now.  Lesley Logan 18:54  You're gonna complain later and Lesley is gonna roll her eyes, you know. So she found her way of understanding that she's out of alignment. We all need a little flashing light, elevator sound, woman in the park. I wish I can tell you what she's saying.Brad Crowell 19:07  Woman in the park coming at you with surround sound. Lesley Logan 19:11  Yeah, it's really rare. It's really weird. It's probably saying you're not supposed to be here right now.Brad Crowell 19:14  I know, right? The park doesn't open until 6:15. Lesley Logan 19:18  A park opens when the sun rises and I'm there before it so clearly, it's for me, anyways. Brad Crowell 19:22  All right, so here's what I really dug. She's talking about urgency culture, and I found that an interesting term, because if it's culture, that means we created it, right? It's also it's learned. I reflected a lot about this, like, wow, there is a sense of we're only here on this planet one time. So I get that, like, driving, like, gotta get things done, you know, kind of a vibe. But also, too, I think if you look at the difference between the United States and Europe on on how people work, you know, we work 40 hours a week. We never take vacations. We work when we're sick, all these kinds of things that are way different from a mentality, from a cultural perspective, the idea of urgency culture kind of scares me. That's not an exciting thing to think about. It also made me reflect on how caught up am I in that myself? Lesley Logan 20:14  Oh, yeah.Brad Crowell 20:15  This idea of never taken any time off or constantly working. You know, we're just listening to one of our coaches, Brad Bizjak.  Lesley Logan 20:23  He's gonna be on the pod soon, guys, stay tuned. Brad Crowell 20:25  Awesome episode coming. Really excited about that. We were listening to one of his episodes on urgency and the importance of leaving yourself time off as well. So anyway, all this being said with Launa Jae, she said, hey, we've created this never ending to do list, and it's stripping us from the human connection, from enjoying our day to day, from being present in the moment. It is funny. It's like we've decided we can, you know, be, quote-unquote, this efficient, so we can do these amount of things every day, whatever those things are, right? If you're working for a company, they always tell you schedule 80% of their expected work time, because 20% will something will get in the way, and they won't actually be able to do all the things. But we still packed in that 80% right. When we are thinking about our day in that manner, it doesn't leave any room for life to be, like, to happen, and also self-reflection. And I think that's the, when she's talking about stripping us from the human connection, enjoying the day to day, from being present in the moment. You know you have to reflect on the things that are happening to you. Like, for example, I mean, I wasn't in in the best physical, like, well-being on this day trip that we took, but we changed altitudes. I opened my water bottle and it exploded all, literally, all over my lap. So, like, and it wasn't a small amount of water. I was literally sitting in a puddle of water. And, like, I'm driving. You know, that could have been hilarious, but I was upset about it. I was, like, really frustrated.Lesley Logan 21:54  I started to laugh at the background. Brad Crowell 21:56  You did start laughing. Lesley Logan 21:56  Because we have done this before. So to me.  Brad Crowell 21:59  I had no idea we changed altitude. It wasn't like a thing I could check, but the realities that happened, and instead of it being funny, it was frustrating because I'm like, I have to drive, I have to do this, and I'm trying to take a drink of water, and then boom. And instead of appreciating the hilarity of the moment, I didn't, you know, when Launa Jae was talking about this, she explained, we're constantly rushing to complete tasks and focusing solely on our to-do list, which is stripping us of being present and by being intentional about what we're doing. Right? So this intentionality she's talking about then, why are we doing what, what we're doing while we're doing it, it'll help us be more present in the moment. So now she's limiting distractions. She's trying to be in the moment more. And the number one thing she said is especially because she works in social media, the number one thing she said is just limiting those notifications and hiding her phone that allows her to stay present, stay in the moment, be having a conversation and thinking about the conversation she's having. Instead of constantly being interrupted, even if you're not necessarily addressing it, you're still processing it. Your brain is still processing it in the moment. So I like that she's prioritizing peace and laughter. You know, I think those are great things.Lesley Logan 23:10  Yeah. If you're a high-achieving person or an ex athlete, or any of those things. I think it's so cool to listen to because we're all human. You can't change everything about yourself all at one time. You have to pick and choose and go, okay, well, what can I do here? Like, if you look at BJ Fogg, and he's like, I'm frustrated because I'm working on this project, and I'm not sleeping enough, so I want to sleep better. He actually was like, okay, how, what are the all the different ways I could sleep better? Well, he's not going to do all of those things. He, actually, to make a habit had to go what are the three easiest things of what I just came up with that I want to do? And then how can I do that? So that's how he talks about how you can make changes in your life. And so if you want to be more present, what are all the different ways you'd be more present? Well, one of the things is to limit the notifications in your phone, because you're less distracted, right? So I think it's just a really cool you can start to see yourself in different things that Launa is explaining, and then you might be able to address it as well. I got an ad for a phone booth, a phone box. It's, it's really beautiful wood, but I would it's, it's.Brad Crowell 24:08  What are you? What is it? Lesley Logan 24:09  It looks like, it kind of looks like a hobbit door, you know, like those old, how like in Harry Potter.Brad Crowell 24:16  Oh, you put your phone in it? Lesley Logan 24:17  Yeah, and you open it up, and there's these little slats, and it could fit six phones, and then there's a hole in the back for a charging cable to come through. I looked at it as, like, well, how much is this phone booth? Because that's kind of cute. Like a place we could put our phones. We were not distracted. Like, it's a cute little box. I mean, you could probably you could probably just put them in any kind of box, you guys, because first of all, it was $75 I was like, I'm out on that. Second of all, you still have to put the cord through. So the like, to me, the box should just charge my phone. So when that happens, then I don't want to have to find more cords over the cords. But at any rate, find a place to put your phone if you want to be less distracted.  Brad Crowell 24:51  Love it. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about those Be It Actions with Launa Jae. Brad Crowell 24:56  All right, so let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Launa Jae? She said, hey, being where you are, 10 toes down. First time she said it, I understood what she said, but it took me a minute to like process it. Again, she's talking about really being present. She said, wherever those toes are, that's where your focus needs to be, right? She shared how this quote became a daily anchor for her to stay grounded in the moment instead of rushing from one task to another. I'm here, 10 toes down, right? It's a cool little phrase that allows you to be like, oh yeah, remind myself to be in the moment, to be here. She said it helps her stay present and ask herself, why am I doing the thing that I'm doing right now? Why am I doing this? Right? I'm here, so my 10 toes are down here. Is this where I should be? Why am I doing what I'm doing? Right? She also emphasized the importance of being intentional about your time and reflecting on the time that you're spending in different places. So she said this kind of purposeful focus gave her the space to reflect, process her emotions and communicate more clearly, especially in moments of stress. So, good for her. I think it's a cool little phrase. 10 toes down. She's good at those, yeah, like the horse pill without water. Lesley Logan 26:16  She also said to stay curious everything can teach you more about yourself. I think this is so key, because we might not like how we react to things, we might not like how something is going, but we could be curious about like, well, why don't I like that? Well, what's going on there? And there's so much information out there in this world today that you could probably figure out, like, well, what is that saying? And like, what's going on? And so I think just everything, even the things we don't like, can teach us more about ourselves. In fact, I actually think the thing things not going right, things not going well, things that blow up in our faces, like, they all kind of teach us a little bit more than like, when everything goes really well, if everything is good all the time, you kind of often don't know as much about yourself. So want to also encourage us to create awareness around where we are and get clear on where you want to go. So maybe take a second of like, okay, I'm going to this meeting. The goal of this meeting is X, Y and Z. This is why I'm going to this meeting. This is what I want. And then have some clarity there, and then be 10 toes down and reminded us that grace and consistency go a long way. That is very true. It actually is really hard to pick yourself up quickly if you're beating yourself up. The teams in sports that do the best, don't focus on yesterday's loss. They focus on the goal of today. You know, as they learn from yesterday's loss, they watch tapes, they take feedback, but if they're beating themselves up over a wrong turn or a bad pitch, they're going to take that with them into the next game, versus going okay, today's game is to beat this team, and this team is really good at x, y and z, and when I'm up against that, this is what I know because you learned about yourself. So it all goes together, and grace is and is going to help you be more consistent, for sure. And she also said there's going to be really hard days but what matters most is what you do with them. And I think that's such a good reminder.Lesley Logan 27:53  You know, Launa Jae, you're so fun, you're so fabulous. You guys, I think you're going to really love listening to her episode. If you haven't listened to it already. Also go back into the archives and grab another episode out of her if you really enjoy what she's saying and follow her, because her stories are really fun.Brad Crowell 28:08  Yeah, her first time on the pod was episode 53.   Lesley Logan 28:12  Whoa and what episode is this? Brad Crowell 28:15  533 Lesley Logan 28:16  So she is, that's.  Brad Crowell 28:18  Almost 500 episodes. Lesley Logan 28:20  No, that's like 53 and three. She's 50, episode 53 and then 533. There's another 50. Launa, go play the 53 at the lottery, I think. Brad Crowell 28:30  Awesome. Well, thanks for joining us today.  Lesley Logan 28:33  I'm Lesley Logan Brad Crowell 28:34  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 28:35  Oh my goodness. I was like, okay, Brad is gonna wrap this up, but that's not how this goes. You guys know what to do. Leave us a review. Make sure you tell Launa Jae, like, what your favorite takeaways were, what maybe your favorite quip is, and share this with a friend who needs to hear it like, who needs a pep talk, who needs to slow down and like, take in how they're doing things and be more present with themselves. That's how this podcast grows and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 28:57  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:59  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 29:41  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:46  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 29:50  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 29:58  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 30:01  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Lesley and Brad break down the mindset shifts that helped them go from feeling stuck to living with purpose—drawing from the conversation with transformational coach Kevin Carton. They dive into the four levels of consciousness, the surprising truths about vision and identity, and the importance of curiosity when stepping into who you're meant to be. Tune in for a conversation about intentional living and the inner work it takes to grow into your next level. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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I have that thing already. I am an entrepreneur. I am a super mom. I am a race car driver. I am a whatever it is, the thing that you want, you know, in your life, instead of when that happens for me, you act as if you are it now, already. That is the definition of be it till you see it. Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the profound convo I have with Kevin Carton in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now and go back and listen to that one or you can listen to this one and listen to that one. He's such a sweetheart. I mean that in like, the not.Brad Crowell 1:19  Really brilliant guy.Lesley Logan 1:20  Brilliant and patient and kind and profound is a good word for him. It really, really is. I learned so much and we actually got to have him in the Agency group as well, elaborating more on what we talked about. So Agency members, you can check out that goodness. Brad Crowell 1:35  Yeah, we're actually going to be including it in the Agency curriculum pretty soon, so stay tuned for that it's gonna be great. Lesley Logan 1:41  Yeah, if you wanna know what Agency is here let's stay tuned, Brad's going to talk about Accelerator in seconds. Today is May 15th and it's National Notebook Day. National Notebook Day is celebrated on the third Thursday of May, and this year it falls on May 15th. It's a holiday that encourages people to record their thoughts, events and information in a notebook. It's especially important to have a notebook or journal if you're the type of person whose mind goes to so many places at once. One of the many reasons why keeping track of varieties is beneficial is that it helps you focus the mind. People will often revisit their journal entries when they need inspiration or ideas. And I just thought, focus the mind, we, I feel like it's a Kevin Carton thing, but also, because I can't choose one, I have ADHD, and I like a lot of things. And so also, Today is National Senior Fraud Awareness Day. So go check that out. Essentially, it means what it means. Make sure you're seeing your people in your life. Brad Crowell 2:29  Educate your parents. Educate your parents.Lesley Logan 2:30  You guys don't deal, don't don't touch the toll link that they're sending you. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah, the toll link isn't real. Lesley Logan 2:37  They're never gonna text you. They don't know your number. They don't know your license plate. Brad Crowell 2:40  We just had someone try to hack your Instagram account. They sent us a spam email that said your post has been. Lesley Logan 2:45  Oh, yeah, copy, copyright infringement. And I told the team. I was like, guys, that's my face and it's my word.Brad Crowell 2:51  Yeah and there was no music. So what copyright infringement could there be? But it was a fraud link. So they're getting real sneaky. Lesley Logan 2:57  Yeah, yeah, really. Because, I mean, I sent to the team, because I was like, there's something wrong here. But no, just assholes. And then also, it's Tuberculosis Day, TB Day. There's actually a couple different holidays to have to do with this. And the reason I'm bringing it up right now is, actually listen to Chris Hayes do an interview. Was it with John Green or with a guy who talked about John Green? Brad Crowell 3:16  No, I think it was the author. Lesley Logan 3:18  Oh, with John Green. Okay, so here's the, John Green wrote a book, Everything is Tuberculosis. By the way, have you ever looked at tuberculosis the word? It's tubular something, something sclerosis. And so everyone like it's.Brad Crowell 3:30  Tubular sclerosis? Lesley Logan 3:32  No, it's got, like, there's like, extra S's and O's, at any rate, you can see why we call it TB. It's really important that you guys actually understand what's going on in the world of fucking things around, is that.Brad Crowell 3:46  Wait, what? In the world of.Lesley Logan 3:49  They're fucking things up like. Brad Crowell 3:50  Yeah, they're fucking things up. They're fucking around.Lesley Logan 3:51  In the world where they fuck around, we're about to find out what that means, which is, according to John Green, we didn't just go back a couple steps, we fell down the steps. Brad Crowell 3:52  We like fell down the ladders. Lesley Logan 3:54  And like, everything is TB is just that, like, TB actually can't kill people, does kill people. There are drug resistant versions of this, and when they study TB, it helps them understand every other disease and illness out there. And so I highly recommend reading Everything is Tuberculosis. And if you're like me and you have a hard time focusing on a book. Go listen to the episode with John Green on Chris Hayes' podcast. No sponsorship here. I would love to have Chris Hayes on or John Green. I don't know what the be it till you see it angle would be, except just tell me how bad we really are. Anyways, but that it's TV day as well. Lesley Logan 4:36  Okay, we're headed to the UK. We have two stops. It's our first time in a couple of years. Space is super limited. Legitimately, guys, there is 18 spots in one space and 20 in another. And that might sound like a lot to you, but it's not a lot of people. So you want to snag your spot for that. The deal is amazing, opc.me/uk we're going on a summer tour this summer and if you want to make sure that you are in on the deets, which will be announced any day now, then you want to go to opc.me/events, we make sure those people always hear about it.Brad Crowell 5:04  And then I'll be spending the weekend by myself because. Lesley Logan 5:08  I'm spending the weekend by myself. You're with friends. Brad Crowell 5:11  Lesley is going to be teaching the Cadillac Workshop Weekend for eLevate, round five, which is very intense. It's literally 24 hours on Zoom over three days.Lesley Logan 5:21  That's overwhelm. Those of you who are seeing eLevate, it's only 12 hours for you. Brad Crowell 5:25  Yeah, it's only, it's only half of that for participants, but she's doing two rounds. But we love these weekends, eLevate is really a fun, amazing program, and I can tell you, as someone who watches it all happen from the side, how epic it is, because people actually come together and nerd out like deep, deep, deep dive on Pilates over nine months, and what they get out of this program is literally life changing in every element of their life. It's not just about the Pilates, but this weekend is really, really cool. So if you're ever considering deeper dive into Pilates and you're a teacher, that's the one requirement, if you're already a teacher, go to lesleylogan.co/elevate that's L-E-S-L-E-Y logan dot co slash elevate for more information, when you get started, there you and I can talk, and we'll talk through the whole thing. If you are a teacher and you're taking clients at all, I want you to join me for a free webinar. It's a Profitable Pilates webinar. We're going to talk about money. Okay, we're gonna talk about money. We're talking about clients marketing. We're talking about mindset. We're gonna dig in, and we're gonna get nerdy on how do you apply these things to what you're doing to change the trajectory, okay, if you're like, I feel like I'm spinning my wheels. I'm feeling very stuck. I can't seem to get new clients. I hate trying to get new clients. I hate telling people how much I charge. If any of these things resonate with you, come to this webinar. It's called the Growth Accelerator, prfit.biz/accelerator. It's totally free. We're gonna dig in, and then you can there's Q&A element to it as well. So that's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. It's totally free. And then finally, Cambodia. Lesley Logan 7:07  Cambodia. Come and have Pilates for free with us. This is for you. If you just love Pilates, if you're pie curious, if you want to go travel the world and you want someone to curate it for you, this retreat is for you. It's an amazing experience. You're in the village with us. You stay at our house. We do five Pilates classes. We do breath work, we do some manifestation workshop, not just the woo, woo type. We actually get down and dirty on like, how do you actually make sure that your schedule allows you to live the life that you want to live, which includes taking care of you and making yourself a priority. And we tour temples, and we do a water village, and we do a lotus run, and run, like a lotus tour, and then we also eat amazing food. So I want you to come.Brad Crowell 7:41  Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. It's like our favorite place to be, honestly, with everything that's insane going on right now in the world, in life.Lesley Logan 7:49  I can't wait to be out of all of it for a week. Brad Crowell 7:52  It's like an opportunity to set yourself up for some peace, relaxation, a little bit of adventure, exploration. It's going to be a great reprieve. It's going to be a retreat and on purpose. So come join us for it. You deserve it. It's your time. Lesley Logan 8:07  Yeah, you're going to vote whenever it's time to vote. You're going to protest whenever it's time to protest, and you're going to take a week with us in Cambodia to recharge and refresh and get back out there. Brad Crowell 8:16  crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com.Lesley Logan 8:21  I got halfway through filling this out and like. Brad Crowell 8:23  Before we get any further, we got an audience question here.Lesley Logan 8:26  Right, babe. Brad Crowell 8:27  Right, so Fit Prom Karen is asking on YouTube, hey, what's the difference between the black nylon and leather straps? How do they hold up or move for circular movement? And she was talking about on the Reformer. Lesley Logan 8:40  Yeah, so, okay, there's so many different types of Reformers out there, and there are Reformers that use, like, ropes and pulleys, and they usually have loops, and those loops can be cloth, and then, because of COVID, they've turned into this, like, vinyl type of a thing, which is not super comfortable. It's a little thick, but it's easy to wipe down. And then there's also the leather straps that also on wheels, and they also have handles, and then they have extension straps to make the loops. So there's a huge difference. And as far as the circular movement, I actually think that if you work with the leather straps and handles. Brad Crowell 9:11  Sorry, where are these straps? I'm trying to envision this because there's, like, multiple straps on a Reformer. We're not talking about the long straps, are we?Lesley Logan 9:18  We're talking about the long straps. Brad Crowell 9:19  The long straps, okay, so we're not talking about the things that hang over the tail.Lesley Logan 9:22  You know, when we're on a tour, yeah, not the one, well, those are extension straps, but yes. Brad Crowell 9:22  Extension straps, okay, so that's the difference.Lesley Logan 9:22  You know when we're on tour and some of them I have to push the risers down because they use ropes. Okay, so the particular device that it's on will turn around so when they make circles, the ropes stay in this little groove thing, and it circles like it turns with it. And the leather straps don't have that. They're just on a wheel, but you can still circle. You can still circle. What I would say is actually a lot, a lot of people that I work with who use the ropes. I highly encourage you to order the neoprene handles. They usually are on your Cadillac, or you can order them on their own and clip it on to your straps, because you are going to get even more out of those circles every single exercise if you have a handle in your hand, because the way your hand reacts to the handle will tell me if your arms are connected to your back. So I can look at a room of people. Brad Crowell 9:49  Which does not happen if it's just a loop. Lesley Logan 10:18  Well, it can, but you have to, you have to be aware, and it's really hard because you don't have anything visually to show you that your hand is turned at an angle. So if you're watching on YouTube, it's really easy for your hand to be at a 45 degree angle, versus perfectly holding a bowl of soup or perfectly ready to shake someone's hand. Brad Crowell 10:38  Is that what we're doing, we're holding soup? Lesley Logan 10:39  Usually I tell people to hold a margarita. So at any rate, the pinky side of your hand needs to be attached to the handle at all times. And when you're using those loops, it's kind of touching it. So you think it's working, but then your hand is actually not the right angle to help you to connect your muscles from your back. And a lot of people end up using the top of their shoulders or the front of their shoulders, or their biceps and their elbows, and they're not using their back. And then the other thing that those loops can encourage without you noticing it is really easy for your wrist to bend, and so then you're holding this loop with your bent, wrist is bent, and now you're not getting any of the benefits. So loops are great for the feet. There's nothing wrong with it, and I actually am not knocking anything like, we have affiliate links to Balanced Body and to Contrology, so if you prefer the ropes, you can have them. I just highly encourage you to get handles and use handles in your hands and loops on your feet. Brad Crowell 11:23  Yeah, if you're interested in that link, go to opc.me/perks P-E-R-K-S opc.me/perks and scroll down, you'll find the links to all the equipment that we recommend. So stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into this fantastic conversation that Lesley had with Kevin Carton, and he's going to share some fancy metaphysical stuff with you all. We'll talk to you soon. Brad Crowell 11:48  All right, everybody, welcome back. Let's dig into this convo with Kevin Carton. He's a multifaceted individual dedicated to helping others achieve their potential. Certified by the Brave Thinking Institute, he operates as an inspirational speaker, teacher and transformational life coach. That's what the Brave Thinking Institute is, they certify life coaches, and it's not like a, you know, $250 weekend certification y'all this is way bigger deal than that. With significant experience, he focuses on empowering individuals to identify their life's purpose, overcome personal obstacles and build self-belief through various methods, including his widely popular podcast, Science and Spirituality, co-hosted with his brother Chris Carton, Science and Spirituality, they are, like, you know, a million plus downloads. It's a big pod. It's a really cool thing. I definitely recommend you check that out. Science and Spirituality and his brother Chris, two of them are enjoyable to listen to, just very knowledgeable. So.Lesley Logan 12:43  Also, can you say it like, how cute, Chris and Kevin Carton, like, it's just like. Brad Crowell 12:45  Chris and Kevin Carton. Lesley Logan 12:46  You know, I love when people make sure alliteration happened. It just all flows together. So many things to love about what he said. But I really enjoyed that he talked about he believes that our soul's purpose is really what our heart calls for the most to live the most alive life that we possibly can. And he, also about focusing on becoming more alive, more aware, more happy, more loving. He also said that if you're struggling to identify your purpose, it's because you have to get curious. And it made me just think, you know, when you're a kid, you're like, asking all these questions. You're like, so curious. Why is the sky blue? Why is this? Why is it? And because parents are fucking exhausted and overworked and underpaid, and they are stressed out to the ninth, especially the parents today, because why wouldn't you be, it's really easy to kind of like, crush that curiosity and. Brad Crowell 13:31  I mean even, not, also inadvertently, it could just be like, here's an iPad I can't deal with you right now.Lesley Logan 13:36  It's all, I actually would say it's all inadvertently. But and then at school, the curiosity is not what actually is you're graded on. It's like, on how well you memorized. And so I think that, like, you start as a kid as very curious, and then you go through life and you're just forced to, like, memorize what's right and what's wrong. And so you don't actually cultivate a curious brain. I actually was really grateful, because Pilates made me get really curious. Because, well, not not just Pilates in general, I will say very specifically, Pilates with Vintage, with Jay, with Sandy and Karen. Like, there was not a one answer to a question. It was like, well, I don't know, how's it feel? And they would want you to get curious, like they. Brad Crowell 13:43  You have to dig in and connect with yourself to actually draw a conclusion. Lesley Logan 14:15  Was really hard for me. I would just go, just tell me what it is, right. I just want to get it right. So I think that's why I can really attract this perfectionist, but also why I love what we do. But I just thought it was really great, like, be more curious, you know. And then he also said, we're given dreams, and it's up to us to accept and become aware of them like we're given them. And that made me just think of Big Magic and how, like, ideas want to be born and things want to happen. And if we're not there to, like, pick what's being left for us, they're gonna go. But if we can be aware of them, we get to actually enjoy them, and we get to have this gift that we've been given. What did you love? Brad Crowell 14:49  He talks about the four levels of consciousness. This is effectively applied to how each of us lives, our lives, how we experience our lives. So there's four levels of consciousness, and I'm gonna briefly run through with them all. So level one is victimhood, two is responsibility, three is called flow, and then four is oneness. Okay? Now, what does that actually mean? Level one, victimhood, life is happening to me, at me, you know, against my wishes. Why do these things happen to me? I'm blaming everybody except for myself, right? It's considered the lowest state of consciousness, and it's actually it diminishes your life. So sometimes what we default to, and the thing is, it's easy to stay in the victimhood. Lesley Logan 15:33  I think we all get annoyed by those people. Like, once you're not that person, you're like, I gotta get away. Brad Crowell 15:37  Yeah, so level two responsibility, life is happening by me. You're taking responsibility for your actions, for your thoughts, for your responses. You're recognizing your own ability to create desired outcomes. And this is like, probably, I think, most people live life more often than not, in levels two and three, kind of transitioning between two and three, and then four. We tap into four occasionally, but then we shift around like that was a good question that you had for him. But life is happening by me is level two, responsibility on making decisions, on purpose. Level three. Life is happening through me. This is the flow state, a sense of connection to a larger life force, letting go of excessive control, experiencing a natural flow of things, where things work out more easily. You know, I think we've all experienced the flow state, right? We're in the zone, as like to call it. I know when I was working in the office, my entire goal, like when I worked for somebody else, my entire goal was once a day, to forget what time it was, because I was so in the zone, right? Put my headphones on, drown out the rest of the world. Get focused and allow myself to be in that state. And honestly, when that happens, I would be happy about it. At the end of it I'd be like, yes, I got so much work done today. When I didn't get into the flow state, I will be frustrated about my day. And be like, oh, I feel like I didn't do anything today, right? So life is happening through me, and then finally, oneness, life is happening as me. This is definitely more of like a mystical experience, no separation between yourself and the entirety of the universe. And you know, you can experience this through meditation, connection with others, with the nation, but also, actually, he also suggested that oneness, or life is happening as me, the most common experience of this is an orgasm where you're experiencing it with somebody else. I thought it was interesting to think of that that way. And it's not something that you're in that state for the longest periods of time, but you can tap into that occasionally here and there. I just found these really interesting. Lesley Logan 17:44  These are the four things that he dug into more deeply in his talk, right? Brad Crowell 17:48  Yeah, he, we also went through these levels of consciousness and, in fact, also his tool at the end of the episode, where he's like, hey, this is my gift to you. We actually did that exercise together on in the webinar. So if you're looking for more on that, come join us in Agency. You know, also go check out the things that he's doing. Lesley Logan 18:07  You can check out his pod. I mean, like. Brad Crowell 18:08  Yeah or check out the pod, yeah. Lesley Logan 18:10  This is I just really liked him. I subscribed to the pod because I was like, I think I want to keep listening to this person. I really like what they're saying. And I think also I got a lot of those stages, and it's like, oh, that last one, I kind of just thought that's what the shamans do in the white, you know, on the top of the hill, and they leave the world behind. But I liked he's, like, no this is like, you could just tap into it. You could just be, like, in this moment, we could be part of the world again. So I think that's really cool. Brad Crowell 18:32  Yep, yeah, awesome. Well stick around. We'll be right back, because we have some really powerful Be It Action Items shared by Kevin Carton. We'll be right back after this. Stick around. Brad Crowell 18:41  Welcome back. Let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Kevin Carton? He talked about the power of a clear vision. He defines a vision as a written out version of the life you love to live, a written out version of the life you love to live. And I thought was really cool, because we have this idea for ourselves, but how often do we actually put it down on paper so we can see it, read it, hold it. We won't forget it, because we wrote it down. He said be detailed, be clear, be specific. Use emotion and just be big. And he said the main thing that people and he and I had a really interesting conversation about this, one of the things that I used to do, and I still catch myself doing occasionally, is saying to myself, I want this thing for me, whatever this thing might be. And then I would say, it would be really nice if this thing happened for me or to me, ironically, it's like victimhood level one. It would be really nice if this thing happened for me, right? That to me is a cop out. Cop out in two ways. One, I might not actually be actively pursuing this thing that I want to happen for me. And two, if the thing doesn't happen, then it's okay. It didn't happen to me, for me, right? This is really interesting, because I used to intentionally not get my hopes up, right? Because if it never happened for me, then I'd be really disappointed, or it'd be failing, or I'd be let down. And I just found, like what he said, when you're writing out your vision, the mistake that most people make is taking that approach. It'd be great for me if this happened right, and then, and then, what's the next generation of that is we say, oh no, no, not if it happens, when it happens right? And he's saying, not even that but there's one step further, I am that thing. I have that thing already. I am an entrepreneur. I am a super mom. I am a race car driver. I am a whatever it is, the thing that you want, you know, in your life, instead of when that happens for me, you act as if you are it now already. That is the definition of be it till you see it. Lesley Logan 20:58  Oh, yeah. My, my client, I was like, hey, baby, I can only see you at eight o'clock or whatever I gave her. And I really only did it for her, because I would never do it for anyone. And she said yes. And I was like, oh, okay. And I said well, I'm really surprised you accepted this. She's like, well, I am a healthy person, and a healthy person would work out at this hour. And I was like, oh. Brad Crowell 21:17  Great for her. Lesley Logan 21:18  I'm practicing this I am thing and helping me filter my decisions. And I think it's, you know, it takes some time, be kind to yourself, like I just saw her again today, and she's like, still working out the I ams and I haves, but you can do it.Brad Crowell 21:32  Good. Good for her. That's awesome. I thought that was super powerful. What about you? Lesley Logan 21:38  I love that you know about gratitude. Gratitude is a powerful practice for being it till you see it. You know what, gratitude, I think it gets tossed around a lot. It's like, do this, but actually, do you really do it? Do you have a gratitude practice, really? And I'm gonna. Brad Crowell 21:42  What is it? What does the gratitude practice look like? Lesley Logan 21:49  Well, I will give you a perfect example from someone else. So the book is called Buy Yourself the Fucking Lilies, or tulips, or something like that. And I think her name is Tara. I would love her on the pod. I would obviously need to learn her name, but it's from five years ago, so it's really, really great. And she, in her third chapter was every single day, write down 10 things you're grateful for. Brad Crowell 22:07  Yeah, you're right. Buy Yourself the Fucking Lilies by Tara Schuster. Lesley Logan 22:09  Tara Schuster, okay, she's just committed to it. So anyways, I think a lot of people do it at night. And I will just say, everyone, I actually, in the middle of the day, typically have a moment where, like this. Brad Crowell 22:18  We were just talking about this. Lesley Logan 22:20  I start the day feeling fucking amazing, and then somewhere in the middle of the day, after all the onslaught of all the things that are going great but not going great, the chaos and then the fucking news widget that tells me what else we're fucking killing around here, I just find myself like, what are we doing? And so I was like, I'm gonna try this thing, and I open up my reMarkable tablet, and I have my schedule of the day on my reMarkable tablet, and if you just scroll, like, swipe, it's a journal place, and it's not enough to do like, journal entry, really. So I just list 10 gratitudes. And literally, just go, one, I'm grateful that I have the time to do this. Two, I'm grateful. And you just keep going, and what you find is like, by the end, when you get to 10, like to find 10 things to be grateful for in a day, especially when it feels like it fucking sucks, changes mine all the way around. And it really helps you get back to being the person you want to be, the person you believe you are, the I am, the I have and so. Brad Crowell 23:17  I actually think, so that's a cool practice. Another thing you can use is the five minute journal. Lesley Logan 23:22  You can. Brad Crowell 23:23  Yeah and that one you're writing it into a journal, it already has the prompts right in front of you. Lesley Logan 23:27  I can't really read my own writing, so I just do it on the reMarkable and hoping they translate it if it wants to. But we talked about like, how my therapist is really helpful at helping me remember, like, gratitude and judgment can't live in the same space. If you are feeling like, pissed, this isn't working and this isn't working, that's the judgment zone. And then you can start doing gratitudes, and the gratitude pushes the judgment out of the way. He also mentioned a gift.Brad Crowell 23:47  Oh, his gift. This is the thing that we did together, the metacognition meditation.Lesley Logan 23:51  So it's a 23 minute guided meditation, and it's designed to help individuals notice their thoughts, connect with their spiritual being, and gain clarity over their purpose and desires. You guys, this gift is less than 2% of your day. So we're talking about 1.5% of your day. So go to beitpod.com/metacognitionmeditation, beitpod.com/metacognitionmeditation. I'm not spelling that out. I think it spells the way it sounds. Thank you, Kevin, I learned so much from you. I can't wait to stalk you in the best way, a little bit more, and learn so much from you and your brother. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 24:27  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 24:28  Thank you so much for listening to this today. We're so appreciative to have you. Can you believe? First of all, it's the middle of May. Second of all, this podcast is at episode 524 because of you. Because of you, we get guests like Kevin Carton who has a million downloads on his podcast because you listen to this one. So keep downloading the episodes. It is helpful for us to get big, amazing guests that can help you be it till you see it.Brad Crowell 24:49  And share it with somebody new. Lesley Logan 24:51  Yes. Brad Crowell 24:51  Pick one person right now. Share this episode to one person right now. Lesley Logan 24:52  Yes. And if you also leave a review that, too, helps this podcast out. see you. None of that costs you any money and you got a free meditation. Thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 25:06  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 25:07  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Join Kate Boyle in an engaging episode of the Mind Movement Health Podcast as she sits down with Carrie Pagès, a seasoned Pilates instructor with over 20 years in the industry. In celebration of World Pilates Day, Carrie shares her journey into Pilates, insights on working with clients, and her approach to creating a supportive and dynamic studio environment. Delve into the complexities and joys of teaching Pilates as Carrie recounts her path from the winner of the Pilates Anytime Next Instructor competition to a leader in both in-person and online Pilates training. Listen in for recommendations on finding the right Pilates instructor, overcoming obstacles like time management, and integrating Pilates principles into everyday life. This episode offers valuable advice for both Pilates enthusiasts and instructors, emphasizing the importance of connection, consistency, and adapting practices to fit various life stages. Whether you're a new or seasoned practitioner, Carrie's insights will enhance your understanding and appreciation of Pilates.   Connect with Carrie Pagès : For over 20 years, Carrie Pagès has poured her passion, creativity, and expertise into sharing the magic of Pilates. As the owner and senior instructor of In Balance Pilates Studio in Wilmington, NC, and the founder of the In Balance Pilates Teacher Training Program, she's dedicated to educating and inspiring both students and instructors. In 2016, Carrie won The Pilates Anytime Next Instructor Competition, solidifying her reputation as a leader in the industry. She has taught Pilates on tour for Balanced Body and presented at the Pilates Method Alliance Conference twice. Her work has been featured in Pilates Style Magazine, and she has contributed to Pilates Intel, sharing insights with the global Pilates community. In 2017, she launched CarriePagesPilates.com, an online hub offering classes, instructional tutorials, and demonstrations of classical Pilates exercises. Whether you're looking for expert guidance or daily inspiration, you can find Carrie sharing her love for Pilates on Instagram(@carrie_pages_pilates).   Website: https://www.carriepagespilates.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carrie_pages_pilates/    Ready to escape to Serenity? Then come join our 2025 Pilates Retreat in Thailand! This retreat promises a full week of relaxation, exploration, and rejuvenation tailored for everyone. Get ready for daily Pilates, nourishing food, enriching activities, and meaningful connections with the beautiful backdrop of Thailand. Spaces are limited to only 16 participants so get in now and grab your spot on the link below: https://www.mindmovementhealth.com.au/thailand-retreat/   Connect with Kate: Website: MindMovementHealth.com.au Facebook: facebook.com/MindMovementHealth Instagram: instagram.com/MindMovementHealth Haven't subscribed to the podcast yet? Be sure to subscribe and leave us a review at: Apple Podcasts

Celebrating global wins and personal milestones, Lesley highlights the incredible breakthroughs from Olympic champion Kirsty Coventry and Agency members launching new programs and signing dream leases. She also reflects on the powerful feedback that reminded her why showing up truly matters and the values she strives to embody as a teacher and coach. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Be It babe. All right, today is episode, is our Fuck Yeah Friday episode is our sweet, short, inspirational gives you all the things you need. Maybe hear a win of your own, or here are some things that people are calling wins and something that inspires me, a win of yours and a win of mine, in the middle we have a mantra, and we go into our weekend the best way possible. Lesley Logan 1:05  So this I saw on the gram, and it inspired the heck out of me. So for the first time in its 131 years, the International Olympic Committee elects a woman president, Olympic champion Kirsty Coventry makes history. So Kirsty Coventry has been elected as the first woman and first African president of the International Olympic Committee, making a groundbreaking moment. A trailblazer both in and out of the pool, the seven-time Olympic medalist is bringing her leadership, experience and passion for the athlete advancement to one of the most influential roles in global sports. I mean, come on, like, how great is this? Because the truth is, is that we all know that the Olympic Committee needs to make sure that it knows what it's doing with these athletes. And I think it's so great that a female athlete, a female Olympian, and the first, 131 years, it's really annoying, but also yay, we did it. It's happened. I mean, we got to celebrate it. And I'm excited to see what Kirsty brings to the Olympics, because I actually do really love the Olympics, and I want to make sure they stay amazing for all that in them. Lesley Logan 2:02  All right, your win. This is from one of our longtime Agency members. Her name is Nancy Brest and we have been so excited with what she's doing. So she said today, I have my first coaching client in a new revenue stream. I'm setting up language scripts to make the conversion from discussion to invitation to work together and offer. Fuck yeah. Way to go, Nancy. Whenever we start a new revenue stream or whenever we start something new, can be really hard. It's like easy to procrastinate. Way to go, way to not do that. And also, you have your first coaching client already. So, way to go. I'm super excited for you. I'm really, really, really thrilled. So thank you, Nancy, for sharing that with us. Lesley Logan 2:39  I'm gonna share a win from Katelyn Elser. I launched a six-week program in January as a test, and all of them converted into continuous subscription clients. I signed a lease for a studio. It's my dream to open a brick and mortar, and this has definitely happened faster than expected. Katelyn, you're a badass. I mean, usually the studio stuff does often happen a little faster than we expect, but you're ready, and you're not doing it like as a guest. So throwing things at a wall, see what sticks, you're doing it so intelligently, and it's been really fun to see what you're doing. So thank you, ladies for sharing your wins with us. Lesley Logan 3:10  I'm going to share this win. I got an email from someone who attended my workshops at the Pilates On Tour in Denver at Balanced Body's event, and I'm not going to share all of the email because some of it is personal and stuff like that for us, but I've never had someone just like, send me a bullet-pointed list of like, the things that they loved about my workshops. But I'm calling this a win because what you're about to hear is exactly what I've always wanted for my events. And so to have someone put into words and say this, I had to celebrate this. So this from Sophia, she said you really create a safe space for people to ask questions and speak up, make them feel important and valued. You have an incredible depth of knowledge about Pilates, people, business. I had no idea what a resource you were, and I'm so glad I know now. You are confident teaching six bodies you've never seen with 30 people watching while you flow and adjust their movement. You are brave. You don't look down on people because of their training or their knowledge. And things turned a different way than you expected and how you handled it was brilliant. This industry is full of snobs and judgmental people, and I was really impressed you were not either of those things. You build people up instead of tearing them down. You have great information. I love learning about Jay Grimes and what he said and did, and I appreciate hearing your ideas on running a business. And so thank you for all you shared this past weekend. I don't know if you do this, but if you're ever in an industry where you could get feedback from people, and you get good feedback, I hope that you take some time to receive it, right? It'd be so easy, on the same day, I got all this. I also had some customer service emails where people somehow bought too many of the exact same thing. I could have been all consumed by that, and instead, I actually was like, this, this is, this is what I should be consumed by, because this is what I've always wanted people to experience from my workshops and a bunch of other things, of course. And you don't always know that the thing you're doing is working. And so, Sophia, thank you for being part of my win. I'm also excited to see what you do at your growth and your changes in your business. So that's super exciting. Lesley Logan 5:10  Okay, so now you do a mantra. I hope you like, take, like, do you, do you actually receive compliments? Well, if not, I want you to try that this week, and then I want you to celebrate it as a win. Let me know. All right, so our mantra for the weekend, I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. I break all spells that keep me asleep to my own magic. Way to go, babe. Be It babe, thank you so much. We are well into the five hundreds, and we are midway through Q2 and I know there's a lot going on. I really love that you take the time to listen to all of our episodes, and that you share your wins with us, and you share this podcast with a friend. So until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 5:56  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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What if your success was hiding your stress? Lesley and Brad break down the signs of high-functioning depression and how Dr. Judith's Five Vs can help you reclaim your joy. From burnout to anhedonia, this conversation offers real tools to track what actually makes you happy. It's a powerful reminder that joy is personal—and redefining happiness starts from the inside out. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co.And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to recognize overlooked symptoms of high-functioning depression.Ways to measure and increase your personal joy points.The contagious nature of joy—and how to spread it.Daily practices that help you feel more present, centered, and fulfilled.Why reconnecting with your “I am” can ground you in who you truly are.Episode References/Links:April UK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukSpring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comContrology Reformer - https://opc.me/reformerContrology Mat - https://opc.me/foldingmatDr. Judith Joseph Website - https://drjudithjoseph.comHigh Functioning Book by Dr. Judith Joseph - https://a.co/d/9sFHkQWAnhedonia Quiz - https://drjudithjoseph.com/anhedoniaquiz If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig in to this validating convo I had in the last episode with Dr. Judith Joseph. Brad Crowell 0:59  Dr. Judith Joseph. Lesley Logan 1:00  So good. I clearly decided to start while Brad is still getting ready, and we're not going to worry about that because he has ADD, I have ADHD. We're just going with it. Okay? This is how two people making it work. Guys, how are you? I cannot believe this is episode 509, on the day that we're recording this, I'm gonna actually post and celebrate the episode 500 that like just happened. It came, it went. Life was going on. Because, you know, life, life's fucking life, guys. Lesley Logan 1:26  So today is April 10th and it's Consumer Awareness Week. Consumer Awareness Week takes place from April 10th to 16th this year. Oh, thank you. Brad Crowell 1:37  Ready to get started now, guys. Okay, here we go.Lesley Logan 1:37  This day aims to educate buyers and consumers about their basic rights. This includes access to information regarding the goods and products they are purchasing. The sellers are enforced by law to reveal the ingredients they are using in their products, and they also have to follow certain guidelines regarding quality and standard of the product of being sold. If any of the above stated rules are broken, the seller's answerable to the court of law. Yes, consumers are powerful and many laws have been passed to protect them from being exploited. Are you aware of all of your rights? If not, celebrate the week and find out all there is to know. So here's the deal, actually, really, really important. Depending on what state you live in, those who are in the States, you have different consumer buyer laws, depending which country you live in, like there's these different things. So definitely, if you don't know, you should absolutely do some research and do some Googling. But I also just want to say, like, we're recording this after several different weeks and days and months of like, exercising our consumers and power, and it is working. Like, have you seen how much it's working? Like, I don't shop at Target, but I've been part of the not shopping at Target. Like, you know, there's a couple things we need, I was like, not getting it there. My poor assistant was like, so where are we getting these things? And I'm like, oh, here's an art store you can go get them at, and they're $1 more, and it's gonna be fine. So Target's less, like, $15 billion the last time I checked, $15 billion, $15 billion, you guys, this is great news. I don't want anyone to lose their jobs, none of that kind of stuff. But also, like, we have to tell these people who is in charge here, so. Brad Crowell 3:04  Yeah, it's actually really difficult right now, especially in the States, with people taking a wrecking ball to the things that that actually hold companies accountable, such as the FTC and their Consumer Protection Bureau. So there are literally laws that are supposed to protect us, and right now, there are people in power who are trying to give companies back the power to do anything that they choose, and that is going to eventually affect every single person, not just in the United States, but if you're buying products that were made in the United States and you're overseas, they might not be made with the same kind of qualities that, you know, they need to be, so. Lesley Logan 3:45  So here's the thing, even if you feel like you have no rights or voice, your dollar has power wherever you live in this world. And so where you spend that money does matter. And I get it like we have been in places in the States where I'm like, okay, so this is the only place we can shop right now. This is the only place to go. So, you know, don't, please, don't starve. Please don't, like, go without, but like, if you can spend an extra dollar and go to a different store, go support small businesses. Go support women-owned businesses. Go support people of color businesses. Like, I promise you, you'll feel so much freaking better. You'll just feel better. Like, it felt good to be like, oh, we're gonna, look at this place over here that has exactly what we need.Brad Crowell 4:18  I mean, slash or I'm just buying less stuff because I'm like, oh, I need to buy that thing and what would be my normal thing would be, go to Amazon and just order the thing. Lesley Logan 4:26  You know, in one of the FYFs, I actually told people how they can boycott like in a way that like helps them. So if you haven't ever listened to FYFs, I'm adding like things in it that inspire me, plus your wins, plus my wins, and they're still under 15 minutes. And I actually did do it. It's really fun. Okay. Brad Crowell 4:41  Cool. Cut me off. So what I was actually gonna finish saying there is that, you know, I'm actually buying less stuff because my natural inclination is to just go to Amazon and then to just order it, right? But now I'm like, okay, well, if I'm not ordering from Amazon, or if I'm not ordering from Target, or if I'm not ordering from Walmart, you know, then where am I going to get this? And now there's more effort to go figure that out, and probably requires a trip to the store, which I don't really have the time and the schedule to just go do that. So the convenience is, is definitely something that we're trading. But also my pocketbook thanks me, because did I really need to buy that thing. Chances are it's 50-50.Lesley Logan 5:23  Yeah, yeah. Well, in the FYF episode, I actually explained it, you could also borrow it if you need to, like, if you really need it, but you don't need it forever, you could just borrow it, right? So anyways, we have to keep going. So know your rights. Consumers all around the world do some research. This will actually make you it'll make the companies that you work with even better because of it. Brad Crowell 5:40  Yep. Lesley Logan 5:41  Okay, we just literally wrapped up the eLevate retreat. So that's a retreat at our house for those who graduated the eLevate program. And we also had just wrapped the reformer weekend for eLevate round five, which is super, super fun. If you're interested as a teacher in eLevate, you can apply for 2026's program, and then that way you could come to 2027's retreat, because the retreat is for the grads, and it's really special. I guess, don't you love it? I love it. I love having the people here. I love having all the different years of grads here. I love being able to see them in person. So it was absolutely fabulous.Brad Crowell 6:14  It's a good time. It's a good time. People are amazing, and it's, what's been really fun is to see the incredible sense of community created even across different groups of grads. So year one, year two, year three, etc, etc, where, where they're intentionally building community, and they're part of this really amazing group. So it's been fun to see that from our perspective, for sure. Lesley Logan 6:38  Yeah. And then also, last week, we actually opened up the registration for the UK tour, the Mullet Tour. Brad Crowell 6:41  The Mullet Tour. Lesley Logan 6:41  So, you guys, if you are in Europe or the UK, or you want to fly there, we're going to be there this September. Brad Crowell 6:52  Yeah, we're going to be there in September. And what is a Mullet Tour, Les? Lesley Logan 6:55  Business in the morning, Pilates in the evening. That's how it goes. Business in the front, party in the back, business in the morning, Pilates in the back, in the evening. No? Brad Crowell 7:05  Well, sort of. You just mixed a whole bunch of things, but it's business in the front, Pilates in the back.Lesley Logan 7:12  Right, but it's in the morning and then the Pilates is in the evening. Brad Crowell 7:15  Yeah, okay, we're gonna go with that. Lesley Logan 7:17  Well, that's what the Mullet Tour is. It's our second event. It's not annual, because we skipped a couple years. So I don't know the next time we'll be in the UK. I'll be really honest. We're already booking 2026 stuff, and 2027 we just got booked for something potentially so like this might be it, UK, for a couple, for a little bit, so. Brad Crowell 7:35  For a bunch of years. Lesley Logan 7:37  Yeah. So get in. Brad Crowell 7:38  Do it. Make sure you're paying attention. Lesley Logan 7:41  If you understand how the UK works, the studios are quite small, so space is limited, opc.me/uk is where you can get that information. You can come to workshops. You can come to classes. Obviously, the deal is in there. If you get all the good stuff for the Mullet, the whole Mullet, you need the whole Mullet to get the deal. Also coming up. Brad Crowell 7:57  You need to show up with a mullet or you can't come. Just kidding. Don't do that.Lesley Logan 8:02  (inaudible) on a lot of people. So don't do it. All right. April and this month that we're in right now, towards the very end, it is Spring Training. What is Spring Training? Well, there's the baseball people's doing spring training, and it's our version, and it's a week of Pilates classes with the OPC teachers and myself, mat classes, reformer classes, chair classes, tower classes. You can get the mat only ticket, or you can get the full spring training pass. It's a freaking great deal. If you go to opc.me/events, you'll hear about it as an early bird, which means you'll get a better price than anyone else. Brad Crowell 8:35  Yeah, get yourself on the wait list. Lesley Logan 8:36  You don't have to be a teacher. You can be someone who's just been doing Pilates. You can also be someone who's like, pie-curious, and you're like, I don't know. Maybe this is time. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm just gonna say we have uniforms. The dog has a uniform, everything. Brad Crowell 8:37  It's gonna be great. In fact, there's a theme to this one. It's all about the push ups. Lesley Logan 8:54  Oh yes. Brad Crowell 8:55  So this is our first annual spring training. We do want to do this every single year, but that will depend on you, gotta show up. Lesley Logan 9:03  We wouldn't do push ups next year. And also, if you would, ah, push ups, it means you have to sign up.Brad Crowell 9:08  That's right. Lesley Logan 9:08  It means you have to sign up. Brad Crowell 9:09  It's intentional. All right, cool. So that kicks off at the end of April. So go to opc.me/events right now, so you can get on the waitlist where you're actually gonna get that early bird offer. Only the people on the waitlist get the early bird offer. If you are a Pilates business owner in any way, meaning you are taking clients and getting paid by anybody, then I want you to come to my free Pilates business webinar. It's called the Growth Accelerator, and it's going to help you, whether you have a studio or home studio, or you're taking clients in the park. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator, and we're going to be talking about the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I have learned over the past 2500 clients we've coached. We're going to share those things with you, and it is awesome, actually. It's really been a great experience so far, doing this on a consistent basis, and we want you to join us. Lastly. Lesley Logan 10:01  Lastly, we're going to Cambodia this fall. Brad Crowell 10:05  Yep, October. Lesley Logan 10:06  Yeah and people are like, oh, I want the 2026 dates. And I have to say, we have a tentative date, but we are waiting on some news. Brad Crowell 10:11  We are waiting on a couple of other things to fall into place before we can confirm the 2026 dates. But here's what we can tell you, we're only going once in 2026, this year '25, we were able to go twice, next year because we're traveling to Europe at the beginning part of the year, we can only go to Cambodia one time. Lesley Logan 10:27  And so we want you to come this time. Brad Crowell 10:29  Don't wait, like, a year and a half from now to do this. Lesley Logan 10:31  No, I mean, like, things will just be, your life is not going to get less busy. Brad Crowell 10:35  It's true. It's very true. Lesley Logan 10:37  Like, just like, when does that ever happen? So, so you're going to go to crowsnestretreats.com and snag your spot. Brad Crowell 10:43  Yep, crowsnestretreats. Lesley Logan 10:45  Only a few spots. Go grab yours. Okay. Brad Crowell 10:48  crowsnestretreats.comLesley Logan 10:50  Yes, do that. Okay, we have to talk about Dr. Judith Joseph, but first we have a few audience member questions. Audience questions to answer. Brad Crowell 10:58  We do. This is interesting. We've had a bunch of questions come in recently about types of equipment and models and brands and all those kinds of things. So I'm just gonna quickly zip down them, @JohnLanningQ7B on YouTube, asks, hey, my wife is looking for a machine currently. What brand model is yours, Specifically? He was referencing a reformer video, @Finaloadonell3419 on YouTube asks, where can I buy a mat like you're using? And @marilynhighness4234 on YouTube also asks, hello, thanks for this great workout. May I ask where can I get this Pilates mat with handles and a strap? Thank you so much. Lesley Logan 11:35  Yes. Okay, so John, my reformer is a Contrology Reformer. I like the 80-inch. It's really amazing. Prefer it to anything longer, unless your wife is over six-four, that's what I would get. And I like calling a machine myself as well. I think it's really cool. Also, it makes it feel like that's why it's expensive. It's a machine. I buy it. So that's what I use. Brad Crowell 11:57  You can go to opc.me/reformer and you can literally get a link to the one that Lesley uses. Lesley Logan 12:03  There's a little discount on it too. Then for my mat lovers, I use the Contrology Mat. That's the mat with the handles. I prefer the Contrology Mat to all the other brands out there. Yes, I've tried most of them all, and the rest are too squishy, way too squishy. And after just teaching the reformer weekend and then having the mat weekend eLevators, every single different teacher who was on my equipment was able to be like, oh, this, this is what is happening, right? Like, this is what, like, this is why I'm not connecting when I think I'm connected, because most people are on too squishy of apparatus. And so if you're a tight person, the squish, kind of like fills in the gaps, and if you're a hyper mobile person. you kind of like, fold into the squish. So you want to get the Contrology Mat and. Brad Crowell 12:47  Just fold in the squish. Lesley Logan 12:48  You fold in the squish. Brad Crowell 12:49  Just fold it in. Lesley Logan 12:50  Just fold it in. Brad Crowell 12:50  Fold it in. Lesley Logan 12:51  Yeah. So opc.me/mat gets you the discount link for the mat, if those for whatever reason, don't show a discount at checkout, then just hit me up and with your email and I will connect you to a person. So that was all the questions, right? I answered them. Brad Crowell 13:05  Yeah, you got all three. Lesley Logan 13:06  Yeah. I'm a cool, I'm a Contrology demo center. So I think it's really important that you know I'm freaking biased. However, that being said, my bias does not come from me not having explored all the equipment or having other brands. I have actually just sold them because I prefer the Contrology I really think that they have a great thing going on there, and their customer service is really helpful if anything goes wrong. So I, not that that does happen. But you know, like, shippers, things like, you gotta just, you want to have build up relationship. And I really love Balanced Body, and Jay worked with them closely on the Contrology line and you know how much I love Jay, by the way, the day that we're recording, this is his birthday. Brad Crowell 13:40  What? Lesley Logan 13:41  It's his birthday today. Brad Crowell 13:42  Come on, I didn't know that. Lesley Logan 13:43  Yeah, we did. Last year, we actually celebrated his birthday with him.Brad Crowell 13:48  Well, I didn't, yeah, okay, cool. I'm not remembering last March 25th.Lesley Logan 13:52  Happy Birthday, Jay. And he hates it. Brad Crowell 13:55  Happy Birthday, Jay. Lesley Logan 13:55  He hates right now that we're doing any of this. Okay, well, now go get your Contrology stuff, and if you have questions about any of it, you can just DM me. I will happily answer. I love talking about equipment and making sure you get the right stuff for you and what your practice is. And you know, somebody else was like, hey, I'm thinking of getting a folding reformer instead of a mat and spine corrector. And I was actually able to talk about, like, why there is a classical reformer that folds. I have not personally experienced it. It is not cheaper than a regular reformer. It just happens to fold up. And when I'm in Chicago this fall, I'll get to kind of explore it with someone who is in my program who has access to a Contrology Reformer, and that one so I can give you more comparisons, but like, it doesn't become cheaper, it just becomes foldable. Anyways. Brad Crowell 14:38  I just want to give you guys a quick update. The actual link for the mat is opc.me/foldingmat, folding mat. Lesley Logan 14:45  Folding mat. Brad Crowell 14:47  Folding mat. Because you're gonna fold in the mat.Lesley Logan 14:49  Fold in the mat. All right. The wheels have come off this bus. We have to take a brief break, and then we're gonna come back and talk about Dr. Judith Joseph.Brad Crowell 14:56  Stick around. Brad Crowell 14:59  Welcome back. All right, let's talk about Dr. Judith Joseph. Dr. Judith Joseph, MD, MBA is a board certified psychiatrist, researcher and passionate mental health advocate, recognized in the 2023 Congress Proclamation Award, with that award. She's dedicated to making mental health conversations more accessible through groundbreaking research and social media. In her book, High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy, Dr. Joseph helps readers identify hidden depression and discover the unique science behind their own happiness. And I'm really excited to dig in, because there's a ton to learn in last episode. Lesley Logan 15:37  I learned so much. I mean, this was like I got turned on to this guest because we have a different guest. We had on about anahandria. And I was like, okay, this is the first time I've heard this word. I'm very interested. And so then a friend of mine who listens to the pod. Brad Crowell 15:52  What it? What is it? Lesley Logan 15:53  Anahandria.Brad Crowell 15:54  No, anhedonia. Lesley Logan 15:56  Anhedonia. Brad Crowell 15:58  Yeah. Lesley Logan 15:58  Anhedonia. Brad Crowell 15:59  Anhedonia, A-N-H-E-D-O-N-I-A anhedonia. Lesley Logan 16:03  Yeah, guys, I'm a little dyslexic. Anyways, so, but I had been turned on to this person, and I did some research. I like, went down the rabbit hole of her, and I was like, oh, I really love that we have another person's voice on this. And also, like, a book that's coming, that's out on this. And so first of all, there's so much in the episode, you must go back and listen to it. Also you have to grab her book, ladies, I think it's gonna be amazing for you to give to your friend. But she said, there's a, there are tons of people out there who have the symptoms of a depression but are still functioning and over-functioning because they are the rock and I think a lot of people listening, I mean, if you didn't feel so seen and so heard during this episode, like you, there's not a time for you to be depressed. Brad Crowell 16:46  Yeah, who's, who's the rock, like, you know the person who keeps the family together, or the person who, you know, you could be the breadwinner, or. Lesley Logan 16:55  You might not even be the breadwinner, but you're, you're the like, you might bring money to the family, but like, you're the person who gets them on the bus. You're the person who gets every like, if you take a day off, there's no groceries for dinner, like you're the rock, like you're the. Brad Crowell 17:09  Teacher, doctor, boss person, you know, whatever. Lesley Logan 17:11  But also, like you could be working at a place, and especially now with everything's going on, you could feel like, if you stop, they'll just replace you, and then you have nothing to go back to, and that's gonna even be more depressing and more so you are just like over. Brad Crowell 17:26  You're not allowed to stop, you're not allowed to fall apart, no way. Lesley Logan 17:28  So you keep it all together, but you're actually like, not happy, and the things that used to make you happy don't make you happy anymore.Brad Crowell 17:35  We have this idea, this preconceived idea, of what depression is, and that's not necessarily like, the only way that depression looks, right? Depression certainly can look like that, but also it, we might not realize that we're depressed because we think, well, I'm out there kicking ass and taking names everyday.Lesley Logan 17:53  I get up, I got, I've showered, I wash my hair, so I can't be depressed because I got dressed and I'm actually doing great at work.Brad Crowell 18:00  Yeah, and, and, you know, I think, I think there's something specific that you said about it, that you said, I'm going through the motions. There's no joy in it, you know. And I think she really responded to that. She, like, lit up. She's like, yes, that's exactly, that's exactly it like, you know, it's absolutely possible to still be doing all the things, but when there's no joy in any of it, that's like, can also be depression, right? Lesley Logan 18:29  Yeah. And I just want to add, before, I want to say, like, she said, not only over time does it wear on you, but it can feel like you don't have anywhere to turn to. Because if you go to the regular medical world, they're gonna be like, here, you look fine, right now, you know so, and my girlfriend is a social worker, and she was trained that people would be coming and looking for medication. So, like, she's like, Lesley, people probably needed it, but they're like, they looked clean. They looked like they got, they got them, like, all the things there. And so I think, like, it's just important to know that these different things are out there, and you might be experiencing them, and you might actually have to be advocating for yourself around these things. So I don't know, I just, this blew my mind.Brad Crowell 19:10  Yeah, and, you know the joy, the element of joy missing, I thought that was intriguing, but, but the other thing that I that like, really blew me away was it seems quite logical to me that we say my biology is different than your biology, so the food that I need is different than the food that you need. I know that they custom-make nutrition plans for the astronauts, they all have a different custom nutrition plan because their bodies function differently. Here's what I never took that to the next step and realized happiness doesn't look the same for everybody either, right? So we have this concept of like, well, do this thing to be happy. Well, that might make you happy, but it doesn't necessarily make me happy. And now that I'm saying it out loud, it sounds very logical, but I never thought about it. And when Dr. Judith said that, she said your happiness is not the same as my happiness. There's a lot of people out there trying all these different things, but it's not working for them. That's because they're basing it off of the science of somebody else's happiness. And she mentioned that, this was also, I found really interesting, so the definition of anhedonia was that, basically you're missing the joy, right? And there's more to it, but I'm forgetting it off the top of my head. But she said it's actually contagious, right? So if you work in a high stress environment, I'm putting that in air quotes, right, I used to work in a place like this, where it was stressful for no fucking reason, right? It was stressful. Why? Because the boss, that's how he felt like a good company's run, right? And so he would make arbitrary deadlines that had literally no reason. This has to be done by tomorrow. Why? Why? What's happening tomorrow? We just have to get it done by tomorrow, right? And it was like this manufactured stress, and it created this, like, high, this frenzy, this high, high, strong atmosphere, right? And that is contagious. And she said, but guess what? So is joy. Joy is also contagious, right? And I thought this is really interesting, because I've, I operated in this high stress environment for like, six years, and you know, people would come in and they would say, how do you do this? And I'd say, I don't know. I just do it, right, but it's probably because I was conditioned to do it. Well, interestingly enough, I think we can also flip that and condition ourselves to find joy, to be in joy, you know? And she said, when you start to shift inside, people are going to notice it in you. You have something that they want, and they're going to start gravitating towards you. Yeah, I, I really appreciated all this. And she said, she said, how do you know what happiness is for you? She said, there's a lot of science under it. Well, first off, she has a quiz about anhedonia, right? And I think that's, that's like a great. Lesley Logan 21:59  I love that quiz. Brad Crowell 22:00  It's a great jumping off point. We're gonna put the quiz in the show notes. The link to the quiz in the show notes.Lesley Logan 22:05  It's only 17 questions, and it takes two minutes. Brad Crowell 22:08  Yeah, it's a self-assessment tool for self-reflection, right, and it allows you to understand, like, yeah, am I finding the joy, you know, in my life? And then from there, she's got tons of resources. She obviously is the reason that the timing is really great here, because her book is just coming out right now, and she has a book called, it's called High Functioning: Overcome Your Hidden Depression and Reclaim Your Joy. Lesley Logan 22:36  You guys, you can pre-order it today and if it's available by the time, but, here's the thing, if you, like, I think this is the type of book that needs to be on the New York Times bestseller list, because we, the more people know about this, the more we can change the contagion. Brad Crowell 22:51  Yeah, so HFD is what it's about, right? High Functioning Depression. And she says, hey, look, it's not like an official diagnosis. You couldn't go to the doctor and get diagnosed as HFD. But I think that that's like comma yet, because her research is started, is effectively what she's trying to understand is, you know, like, you know, can this be something that can be diagnosed? Because people are experiencing these, these feelings, and they are, they are experiencing depression, even though they're, you know, high functioning. So, very interesting research. Lesley Logan 23:27  And also, I recently got added to the DSM at some point, because this, I was in high school, and the DSM was like a three so, like, we find things out and we add it in. So I. Brad Crowell 23:35  I don't know what a DSM is. Lesley Logan 23:37  Oh, it's this, it's like an encyclopedia for mental health stuff. So, like, it's where every doctor goes when it comes to, like, like your.Brad Crowell 23:44  Diagnosis of Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.Lesley Logan 23:47  Yes, yes. So when I was in high school, I remember it being, like, three, maybe, maybe it was a four already. But I remember being, I remember my teacher specifically saying, do you see how there's a three? It means there was a two and a one, and that means that like, as they, as we learn more, we add more and like, I think the more, I think it's really, not that we should label everything, but I do think when you have a label for what you're going through, you feel less alone, and you have an understanding of, like, how to operate, to get back to where you want to be. I just think that's how, that's how it works.Brad Crowell 24:23  Yeah. And I, you know, I do want to say, obviously, Lesley and I are not psychiatrists, but Dr. Judith is, so, you know, that's, that's a really great place to get started.Lesley Logan 24:32  If this is your first episode, and you were thinking you were listening to two psychiatrists. I'm so sorry to disappoint you. We are two people who talk to a lot of smart people.Brad Crowell 24:40  All right, well, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those, Be It Action Items that you covered with Dr. Judith Joseph and they're pretty, they're pretty fire y'all. We're gonna dig into the Five Vs. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 24:53  All right. Welcome back. Let's get into these Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Judith, Joseph? I'm gonna go first here. She talked about practicing the Five Vs to reconnect yourself. And this, I had to go back and listen to this, like, two or three times, because she also talked about, like a overlapping Venn Diagram, and then, and then, like, the conversation just went a different direction. And we never finished that thought. And I was like, where is it? But we did cover the Five Vs. So the Five Vs, and she writes about them in depth in her new book, are Validation, Venting, Values, Vitals and Vision. She said they can really help you understand the science of your happiness and increasing those little points of joy every day. And what she means by that is, when you're doing research, you often create points, right? You like, like, if this happens, you get this many points. If that happens, you get this many points. If this happens, you lose points, whatever. They're points. It's a point-based system. And she said, so her tools help you evaluate your happiness in a, in a scientific way, you know, so and she uses these Five Vs to reconnect with herself. So what I was saying, I would start with her quiz. I'm sure part of the quiz is going to be going through these Five Vs, or at least that's in her book, and that'll help you start to figure out, like, you know, where are you on this? You know, are you? Are you? Do you have HFD, right? The High Functioning Depression. She says, Start with one or two. Don't, don't start with all five. Lesley Logan 26:24  Be It babes, you do not get to start with all five. You just start with one or two. That's what the doctor said.Brad Crowell 26:29  Okay, so pick one or two, tap into it. Don't overwhelm yourself. Validation and venting are great places to start. And so check in daily, and track your joy. So check in daily, and track your validation and venting and then she has the Anhedonia Scale to measure whether or not you are getting points of joy in life. So that Anhedonia Scale, we're going to link to that in the show notes as well, so that you have a quick link to go find this information. But, but this is great. I mean for, especially, for those of you who are a one woo person like me, having a systematic approach to measuring something as amorphous as happiness is very helpful. It helps, clarify things. So what about you?Lesley Logan 27:22  Well, I was just thinking about how the longer life is going the way it's going where we are, I might become a two woo. I might just go all in on the second woo. That doesn't mean I'm I'm not, I'm not for Dr. Judith. I'm just, just saying it right now, if you hear me say I'm a two woo girl, you know why.Brad Crowell 27:39  Heard it here first, people.Lesley Logan 27:40  Heard it here first. So the other part of her Be It Action Items that I really love was she said she was talking about Deepak Chopra meditation and like, how we can get caught up in, like, I'm a Pilates instructor, I'm a mom, I am this. And like, when you even say your name, your name can represent a lot of different things that you're known for, or what people think you are known for, or whatever it is. And so she suggested you do what he said, which is like, lose your name and just say I am, I am, and you can repeat I am. And what it does is it really helps you become present in just being a human, in your experience that day. And that is like just being right, like we forget to just kind of be in our bodies, which is really, really cool, and you get to have that self-reflection. So, and I think it's easy to forget who we are or like or think of ourselves as, like, having all these different compartments, and then forgetting, like, why are we doing all the things we're doing? What is all this for? You know, and I really like when I lead a breath work session. I'll ask the people, like in agency, I'll ask them, like, okay, like, if you need more energy from others, put your palms up. And if you need more energy, if you want to actually keep the energy you have, you don't want any more from anyone else, put your palms down. And I actually, like, sit there and I ask myself, like, I notice I ask myself the same question, like, do I need more from others? Do I need this? So, like, being able to be present is really helpful and understanding like what we need and who we are and where the joy is coming from. So you guys, I was blown away. I'm blown away by Dr. Judith Joseph, and I am so grateful that she was on the pod. We get to say we knew her when this book goes on the bestseller list and the HFD becomes something that we all can actually like, you know, find easily if we need it. And so go, go check her out, go get her book. And I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 28:10  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:28  Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you for being part of 509 episodes. Brad Crowell 29:33  What? Lesley Logan 29:34  What? When I say we can't do it without you, it is actually not just written down. It's like, truly, truly, if you don't listen, we can't make these. It's not cheap. It's free for you, not for us. So we, we truly are so grateful that you share these episodes, that you come, you tell us what your favorite ones are, that you tell us what your feedback is, like, it really means a lot to us. So please share this with a friend who needs it. Share this with a friend who you might think has HFD so that they can, like, go listen and take the quiz themselves, because remember, joy is contagious. Brad Crowell 30:02  Joy is contagious. Lesley Logan 30:03  Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:05  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:07  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. 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This week, Lesley Logan reflects on the power of letting go, whether it's decluttering your space, releasing limiting beliefs, or celebrating personal wins. She highlights inspiring stories, shares listener wins, and offers a simple yet powerful mantra to create space for growth. Tune in for a boost of motivation and a reminder to recognize your own progress.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The impact of recognizing and celebrating wins, big or small.How decluttering can create space for new opportunities.The inspiring career journey of LA Fire Chief Kristin Crowley.Overcoming resistance and taking action on long-standing tasks.Finding ways to give back through donations and mindful decluttering.A powerful mantra to help release what holds you back.Episode References/Links:Hear Her Stories - https://www.instagram.com/p/DErNWbmN9Qj If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:05  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.All right, hello Be It babe. Happy Friday. It is FYF. If this is your first episode with us, hello. This is when we celebrate your wins and my wins and some things that inspired me on the internet. And I should just say that we're recording these early so some of these wins happened a while back when you're listening to this, but so did yours. And what I love is that when I get to, whenever you listen to this and you get to listen to your wins, you get to be reminded of the accomplishments you've had in the past. So I think that's really fun. Also, the whole point of this episode is to really encourage us to notice what we can celebrate. There's a lot of things to celebrate. We have an episode coming out in episode coming out in April, all about high functioning depression, and one of those things is like celebrating the things you did do. So that's a sneak peek on that with Dr. Judith Joseph. But first I've started this year with the FYF having an inspiration from something I saw on the internet. And when this came up was in January, during the fires in LA and I kept getting really irritated about just how people were treating a woman who runs the fire department in Los Angeles, and I wanted to just honor her, because I think, here's what I think, I know as women, we are above and beyond qualified for most of the jobs that we're doing. We're more than qualified. Studies already have proven that women won't apply for something unless they have a 10 out of 10 of the things that people want, where males will apply with six out of 10. So I just want to highlight this amazing person. This is from the account Hear Her Stories. A little bio for the 24-year veteran fire chief of Los Angeles conservatives are calling a DEI hire. Kristin Crowley was a paramedic, engineer, fire inspector, captain, battalion chief, assistant chief, fire marshal and deputy chief. When she took the firefighter exam, she ranked among the top 50 out of 16,000 applicants. She became the city's first openly LGBTQ+ Fire Chief in 2022 and it says, "Congratulations! You have earned it!" She has so earned it. And I wanted to honor her and celebrate her, because it doesn't really matter any other things that she identifies as like this woman has achieved so much, top 50 out of 16,000 applicants. Are you kidding me? Way to go, Kristin. You inspire me. You are amazing. And thank you for the work that you have done and the service you've done for other people of LA. So, you inspired me. That is who I am highlighting today in our FYF episode. And I think that irked me, because I have been more than qualified for things that I've been doing, and then people go, who are you to do this? And it just is, like, how about you go get qualified for your own thing? Like, why can't we just celebrate what someone is doing? And it doesn't mean that they're perfect, doesn't mean that we can't make mistakes. But also, like, people are hired because they are qualified. We have to trust that in a lot of cases. And I really trusted in Kristin. So, anyways, that is my little bee in my bonnet moment. So let me celebrate. I wanted to celebrate her because I just really, I was impressed with that. Listen, I'm so impressed with that. Okay, an FYF from you is Lisa Osoteo. I was going to post this in random, but then, on second thought, it's definitely a win wrapped into other wins. I sold my Allegro 1 Tower of Power. It's been on my mind to do for a year, but my resistant brain would shut down when I would think of the tediousness of it. I'll need to take pictures, clean it up, post it, let go of my sweet first reformer tower. When every time I would use her, I would resent that she wasn't a Contrology reformer, not her fault. She saw me through my Pilates journey when I was learning how to teach, and she saw me through eLevate when I was learning and still learning the repertoire. When I finally told my friend Mandy I wanted to sell her, she put a fire in my butt by matching me up with someone in the area who was looking exactly for what I was selling. I needed all the things I was resisting. I took the pictures, cleaned it up, posted the post and yes, talked to and negotiated with some random strangers. I posted on Sunday, got an offer on Monday, agreed on a price, Tuesday, and today, Wednesday, we saw her off to her new and rightful owner. I learned a lot in this process that when my brain shuts down, it's because I get overwhelmed by too many steps. Two, once I got started with the help, sometimes with good friends, the work itself is manageable. Three, selling can be a win-win for everyone involved. Four, letting go of things that no longer serve you is liberating. Five, I can detail Pilates equipment like no one's business, plus drops of oil do wonders on pins. Thank you. Balanced Body garage. Six, the Pilates community at large are pretty awesome. And seven, I get to buy a Contrology Wunda chair and spine corrector for 2025. So that's my win. Way to go, Lisa. Way to go. I love that. I love Lisa so much. She is just a fabulous person. She's an eLevate grad. She's been on a retreat to us Cambodia. It was just like a fabulous week I got to spend with her. But I love to look at the world through her eyes. And the thing is, is that some of the things were on our to-do list to let go of and get rid of are really going to be the thing that someone else is looking for. And in the world where there's so much stuff, you know, there's so much stuff, and we're like, oh, I want this thing, but I already kind of have a thing. Well, if you can have the thing that you want, and you're just not getting that because you are already stuck with something else, the thing that you have someone else might want, so you can get the thing that you want. And everyone wins. So I love that it's a win-win. So your win is a win-win. Thank you, Liza. Okay, I'm gonna do a win of mine, which actually happens be on the same thing. So around the beginning of the year, I feel like there's just too much stuff. Maybe it's because I've been in a van for a month. Maybe it's because we give a lot of stuff, we get a lot of stuff. And so Brad and I used to live in a really small apartment, and in Los Angeles, in the west side, and so we could not acquire very much because there was no place to put it. And now we have a house, and I'm like, literally looking at stuff that's in a bag in a corner right now, if you're watching on Zoom, I'm like, looking at this. Where did this come from? So we came home from the tour, and I listened to Mom and Me Astrology, and I did not clean on New Year's Day. Well, I wasn't home for New Year's Day, so that was not hard. When I came back, I legitimately went through my closet. I was like, okay, we're not wearing a lot of this stuff. And I went through and I just was like, pretty harsh about the cuts. I was just, let's go. It's time. I honestly, I could do another harsh at it, but we'll wait for that for another day. I also went through all of our towels. They're useful towels. I don't want to throw them away. I don't want to waste and put things in the garbage. So I, like Lisa, I was like, okay, I've got all these clothes, who needs them? I've got all these towels and sheets, who needs them? I get sent a lot of skincare and makeup care and all this stuff that I'm not going to use. And so it's brand new. It's in the box. Who can I get this to? Well, here's the funny thing. This is the win. I opened up Instagram, and I saw that the butcher in town is actually taking clothes to people who lost everything in the fires. Boom, that's gone. Then my friend's store is collecting makeup and clothes for another charity that's in Las Vegas who needs it. And I was like, oh, boom, there's all that. And then someone suggested, oh, contact the pet place. They always need these things. So I contacted the Nevada SPCA, and I said, do you guys want, like, used towels and stuff? Like, we always want used sheets, used, towels, used whatever. Here's when you can drop them off. So my win is, normally, I clean things up and put them in a bag and then they just sit in bags somewhere forever, or I just give them off to a friend, but I really wanted to give it to people who needed it, and here we are. I gotta say, win, checked that off the list, I got to get rid of things I'm no longer using and give them to people who truly need it. And I feel good. It feels good to do that. So I would just say a simple win you like have on your to-do list is to clean out your closet or clean out a junk drawer, just know that there's probably a charity and who's looking for the things you're getting rid of, and it makes the task that you have on your list feel even better to do. And so that is my win of the week. Now for your fabulous mantra, let's see, this one was going to come from the Deck of Plenty. The Deck of Plenty says, I release what keeps me sheltered from my life. Oh, this is so timely for this episode. Don't you love that? I just drew this one. So, I release what keeps me sheltered from life, I create space for what encourages my growth, and I rejoice in the ways that life emboldens my best to come forth always.ed I release what keeps me shelter from life, I create space for what encourages my growth, and I rejoice in the ways that life emboldens my best to come forth always. Well that is brilliant and beautiful and wonderful. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the FYFs, another short, another sweet. I know sometimes you're like, what am I gonna learn from these episodes? But these are episodes that I really think are important for us high-doers to recognize that in all the ish that's going on, there can be something that is worth celebrating, and we have to celebrate, otherwise we are just doing stuff, too much stuff. So, thank you. Thank you. And if you have someone, something that has inspired you that you want to send in that I can highlight on episode, please feel free to DM me. If you have a win you want us to celebrate, please send it in. You are amazing, and until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Life's toughest moments often push us toward our greatest transformations. In this episode, Lesley and Brad dive into Lesley's insightful conversation with Stephan Neff, a doctor, author, and podcast host who shares his personal journey through trauma, addiction, and self-discovery. Learn how challenges can reveal your purpose, why taking messy action is key to growth, and how a simple self-hug can shift your mindset.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How trauma and adversity can push you toward personal transformationThe importance of taking action even when it feels hardStephan's journey of loss, grief, and self-discoveryThe power of daily practices like journaling and gratitudeHow a simple self-hug can create a sense of self-acceptance and healingEpisode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistStephan Neff Website - https://www.neffinspiration.comSteps to Sobriety by Stephan Neff - https://a.co/d/hHY4w9PDepression Lied To Me by Stephan Neff - https://a.co/d/7s6Ddg0Neff Inspiration Podcast - https://stephanneff.podbean.comStephan Neff YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@neffinspirationStephan Neff Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/neffinspirationStephan Neff Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/neffinspirationStephan Neff LinkedIn - https://beitpod.com/neffonlinkedinEpisode 167: Alan Stein Jr. - https://beitpod.com/ep167 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSoxBe in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  By going through trauma and being forced to change, you get outside of your comfort zone. You get to experience fear. And he was sharing that he had a successful life at the Big House, the wife and kids, and on the inside, he was just not a happy person. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the evolving convo I have with Stephan Neff in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, make sure you do after you listen to this one, because it's great. Stephan is really cool, and he's got that New Zealand accent, which is, you know, if you're in the Western world, it's kind of nice. I guess that's the Western world as well. If you're in the United States, an accent is nice. It's, you know, it's different than mine. So anyways, today is March 6th 2025 and it's the Day of the Dude. Brad Crowell 1:26  The Day of the Dude. Lesley Logan 1:27  The Day of the Dude is celebrated on March 6th every year to commemorate the North American release of the movie The Big Lebowski in 1998. The movie portrays a protagonist with a laid back attitude to life, who chooses simplicity, peace and happiness. The idea is to enjoy life's little moments, such as bowling or drinking with some friends. The holiday looks to promote ease and simplicity in society. Being able to easily let things go and go with the flow is big part of the lifestyle. The lifestyle portrayed in the movie inspired the birth of the religion philosophy, known as “Dudeism.” Brad Crowell 2:03  Dudeism.Lesley Logan 2:04  And so you know what, guys, I think we all need to just sit back, go bowl, drink with some friends, and just have a day where you just relax a little bit. I didn't really get the movie. I think that's because I can't relax very well. So I think maybe this is my Day of the Dude. It's Jeff Bridges. And who doesn't love John Goodman?Brad Crowell 2:22  And Steve Buscemi. I mean, it's amazing. Lesley Logan 2:24  Julianne Moore, Sam Elliott, John Turturro. Huge cast, amazing cast. Brad Crowell 2:30  Pretty fantastic. Lesley Logan 2:31  You know. So I think we saw this at the cemetery. We saw The Big Lebowski at the cemetery. Brad Crowell 2:35  Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the cemetery.Lesley Logan 2:36  The one and only time I've ever seen The Big Lebowski. But anyways, my loves part of being it until you see it is resting and relaxing. If you cannot, just have some moments where you go with the flow. Take the Day of the Dude as a reminder to, you know, find some simple ways to enjoy life. Brad Crowell 2:52  So hey, we just got back from Cambodia. Lesley Logan 2:54  We did. A couple days ago. Brad Crowell 2:56  It was an amazing trip. We got a chance to hang with some friends who we basically consider family at this point. Take a bunch of people around to see some of our favorite spots, literally in the world, and we want you to join us on our next trip. Come this October 2025 to see our house and see the life that we've built over there, that we welcome you to stay at our place and tour the temples, do some Pilates, meet some elephants. All the things. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com and in a couple ofweeks.Lesley Logan 3:28  Not even a couple of weeks, I think we're, like, about a week-ish, oh, from this coming out, we're on the, we're probably in Denver at this point. Brad Crowell 3:36  Actually, we may be at P.O.T. Lesley Logan 3:38  We're definitely supposed to be rolling in tonight. Brad Crowell 3:41  Yeah. We're driving.Lesley Logan 3:41  So we're in the Aurora area with the van to see our Balanced Body peeps and our P.O.T. attendee people are here to have some fun. Brad Crowell 3:48  No dogs in this trip. Lesley Logan 3:49  No dogs. We're leaving them at home, mostly because.Brad Crowell 3:52  We're gonna be gone for like eight hours, 10 hours a day. It's tough.Lesley Logan 3:54  Yeah, also, easy, if we took one, not so easy if we take two. So no dogs, but we'll be there. Come say hi to us. March 18th to the 24th, the Accessories Flash Card Deck, the final deck, this is it, guys. It's the last one. It's being presaled. I guess that's now a burp on March 18th to the 24th it's going on presale, which means it'll be 30% off its original price. Doesn't mean it will ship to you the next day. It means you get to wait until it ships, but you get to get the best price. It, we do not do this discount again, and so we really, truly hope that you take advantage of it. So go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist because only those on the waitlist will get the invite to get the discount. You will not see this on Instagram. You will not hear about here again. This is it. Then in April 27th through May 3rd, we have a week long spring training. Yes, our own version of a baseball event, but it's with Pilates, and it's with all the OPC teachers and myself. We've got 10 classes planned over seven days, all different time zone. Yes, there's a limited replay. Yes, it's going to be super affordable. And if you go to opc.me/events and get on the waitlist, you will get invited to the early bird price, which is basically stealing this, this amazing event. And if you're OPC member, it's free, but opc.me/events is the wait list for the early bird price. Brad Crowell 5:11  Yeah. And if you are taking money from a client at all in any way, shape or form, that makes you a business owner, congratulations. Even if you don't see yourself as that, you know, even if it's like a side hobby kind of a thing. Technically, you still are a business owner, and I have a free webinar for you that's called the Accelerator webinar. Come join me at prfit.biz/accelerator, where I'm going to be revealing the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I've learned from coaching more than 2500 businesses just like yours over the past seven years through Agency, our coaching program. So join me at prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. Lesley Logan 5:49  Doesn't that word just make you want to go because it's accelerator. Before we get into Stephan Neff's interview, we have an audience question. Brad Crowell 5:58  Yes, we do. Kara Dowd says, hey, I listened to the podcast. I'm hoping for nuggets of wisdom here, as I am an instructor, wondering the big question of whether I should make the transition to a studio owner. Either way, it's a great podcast. Well, I hope so. What if we told you no, okay, I would still be a good podcast. I'm teasing. Well, thank you for saying that. It's very kind, and we are really glad that you listen. And this is a great question that is really tough for us to answer, because there's a lot of factors involved. That's actually, literally why I host this webinar that we were just talking about. So if you haven't done it yet, Kara, you totally should join me on the Accelerator, where we're talking about, how do we create the right plan for you with your business, because Kara, you have your own goals and your own dreams, and you, choosing to open a studio, it's not like there is one path that you have to take in this career. Every single business owner that we work with has their own desires, their own vision for their business, and we help you sculpt and create that path that allows you to enjoy your business. Because what if you didn't want to open a studio and have the stress of paying rent, and maybe you even have a team and all that's like, what if you're like, why am I doing this? I just want to teach out of my house. You don't need to go open a studio, but you also could, if that was what you wanted to do. Lesley Logan 7:18  But also you could have a studio in an office building, like where the rent is something you could pay in a week of teaching, and so you have the other three weeks for profit and taxes. And because it's in an office building, it's really safe. You don't need anyone else. If you can get the systems in place, you can run it by yourself, like I had a studio by myself. And then our goals changed, and so that studio had to change. My teacher, who I take from, he is solo. So he went from being a renter to actually just open up his own space and doing it himself. So the big transition is, how big is it? It depends. We already have all this equipment. So if we were to transition to a brick and mortar, the big expense is really going to be the building. What do we have to do there? Are we going to buy it? Are we going to just curate it? Are we just going to paint the wall? What are we going to do? So what I would say is actually ask yourself, okay, I have a studio. What does it look like? And make sure you're not picturing someone else's studio. What does your studio look like right now? Like, if I'm picturing, like, what's in our future studio? Like I told Brad, if we're gonna do this again, I really want to have those garage door window doors, for whatever reason I like the idea of an old mechanic shop or some sort of, like old building that looks like it was something else, but now it's this, and I want the higher ceilings. I didn't have high ceilings before. So picture that, and then ask yourself, Is this a studio you are doing by yourself? By the way, you guys, we help people all the time, work by themselves with their own studio, making the money they want to make, and having no extra teacher help. Or do you want to have a big class? Do you like leading people? Do you like managing people? So we can't answer this question on here because we don't know enough about you and what your goals are. And as coaches, one of the things that we're so proud of at Agency is that we actually coach you based on your goals. So we've coached thousands of studios and teachers around the world. And yes, some of the studios have a similar business model, but they all have different goals, and so how they approach what they're doing next depends on that. And so we can't give you a specific answer to your question, but I hope that helps you manifest what you got and then come to the Accelerator event so you can get to know us more and see if we can support you.Brad Crowell 9:19  Yeah, absolutely. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to dig in some amazing action items from Stephan Neff. We'll be right back. All right. Now, let's talk about Stephan Neff. He actually says his name, Stefan with the S-C-H-T. Stephan, and I was like, that's really cool. So Stephan Neff is an anesthetist. He's the author of My Steps to Sobriety. He's a speaker, and he's the host of the Neff Inspiration podcast and YouTube channel. With expertise as a functional medicine specialist, a life coach and yoga instructor, Stephan combines his personal journey with professional insights to help others heal from trauma and addiction. Through radical compassion, mindfulness and proven clinical strategies, he empowers people to build emotional resilience and embrace lifelong wellbeing. Lesley Logan 10:10  But he's just so vulnerable. Brad Crowell 10:12  Yes, he really was. Lesley Logan 10:13  And not in like a vulnerable trauma dumping way, like a vulnerable here's what I did, here's how I fucked up, and here's what I learned from it, and here's how I'm changing my life, and here's how you can.Brad Crowell 10:23  Don't be a trauma dumper. Lesley Logan 10:24  People. Well, you know what? Brene Brown in her book talked about vulnerability and shame, right? And she said vulnerability is not like telling everyone, like, all this stuff until they run away from you. So some people. Brad Crowell 10:34  Yeah, then it becomes like a defense mechanism. Lesley Logan 10:37  Lay their stuff on you and see if you run away. His was like, I found myself going, oh my God. How did you get out of that? Oh my God.Brad Crowell 10:43  Yeah, because I think it was within the last three years that. Lesley Logan 10:46  His whole life changed. Brad Crowell 10:47  Yeah, he crashed. Lesley Logan 10:48  I think it's been longer than that, but he's had more changes since then. And so anyways, he said by going through trauma and being forced to change, you get outside of your comfort zone. You get to experience fear. And he was sharing that he had a successful life with a big house, a wife and kids, and on the inside, he was just not a happy person, and he had these unresolved needs, especially in relationships, and he had unhappiness. And then he said, because you are searching for this purpose in your life, you have not yet found and so he basically talked about, when you have these things happen to you, it forces you to actually go figure out your purpose, because you haven't found it yet, until you're kind of in the wrong place. And you know, we've talked about this before on the podcast, taking away someone else's rock bottom is like a terrible thing to do, because they often need it, you know, they need a lesson, or they need the thing so that they can step into the next iteration of themselves. Brad Crowell 11:38  You know, a reflection point. Lesley Logan 11:39  Not that I'm saying that every bad thing that happens to you just go with it, because it's going to be not like the dude, it sucks when these things happen, but also that hardship and pain you go through, you can learn from it. You can discover what you're here to do on this planet from that information and take it on. And it doesn't have to become your story. It becomes part of the story that you're leading.Brad Crowell 11:59  Yeah, it was an intriguing conversation, because definitely, he's very willing to share the experience that he's gone through. He also has written a whole bunch of books, which is pretty cool too. I mean, the dude's a doctor, right? So he likes to write, apparently. The Day of the Dude. We're just gonna see how (inaudible)The Dude is the doctor.Lesley Logan 12:15  The Dude and everything is The Dude. Brad Crowell 12:18  Well, look, this dude really loved what Stephan said. He said, you have to take action in order to live your life, and the harder it gets, the more action you have to take, which we could not agree with more. When you take messy action, it gives you clarity. It helps create that path that we were talking about. He shared when he lost his wife of 27 years, he never allowed himself to feel loss and grief. He didn't allow himself to feel it. And that was not a win. That was like, he was like, oh, wow, okay. And he just kind of bottled it up. And then he said, actually, the thing that triggered it, that tripped it for him, was a song. And he said, suddenly he was like overwhelmed and overcome by the loss and grief that he experienced, and it really was powerful. He said, despite taking many of the right actions, he had neglected to address those deep emotions. And then with that song, he said it was so beautiful to cry, it was so beautiful to feel whole again because, yes, I can feel whole again even after that loss. I can definitely understand that. Thinking back through my divorce, I remember doubting myself thinking, oh, well, I had my shot. I fucked it up. I guess that was it. He's arguing. No, I can feel whole again. Despite this, he also shared many daily practices of journaling. He said those things that I took for granted, you know, they become my wins. They become my wins list. And this is something we've talked about in the past all the way back at the very beginning of this podcast, where we think it is so important to keep a log of the things that are a win in your life, because it's so easy for us to just focus on beating ourselves up and holding these things. I did this. I did that. I hate myself for this and all this stuff, but we never pull out that card and go but despite all these negative emotions that I have that I'm telling myself, all of these other positive things have happened in my life, so it's so helpful to have a journal of those wins. Lesley Logan 14:16  Yeah, I hope people do it. I just want, we want to. I just want wins to happen all the time. Brad Crowell 14:21  You never know when you're gonna need to read that. Lesley and I, we have been encouraging our clients to post their wins. People feel when they first come into our coaching group, they always feel awkward about it, because it feels like you're bragging, right, and you're sharing it to a bunch of people who you don't know. So are you bragging? Right? But the reality is, it has become the most popular channel in our entire group, because you go there and you just feel that things are possible when you read about this amazing things that have happened for other people in other people's life, because they're taking messy action, because they're trying to figure their way through and then amazing things are happening. It's just so inspiring. So you can even inspire yourself. Lesley Logan 15:05  All the way back to Episode Five. We had someone who was talking about how she, like, kept track at the end of her day about her wins. And then we had Alan Stein Jr. somewhere around episode 100-something, and he talked about how at the end of every day he asked himself, what were his wins for the day, and so this podcast celebrates him on Friday. But, my goodness, can you figure out a way to celebrate every day? What did you do? Like, I washed my hair today. Brad Crowell 15:29  That's a win. Lesley Logan 15:29  That's a win. I'm telling you. I have been putting it off for three days. Brad Crowell 15:33  I did mine last night. Lesley Logan 15:34  Yeah, you look so good. You know what? Stop making it difficult to achieve a win in your life, because otherwise, life is already just hard.Brad Crowell 15:42  Yeah, graduating from college, that's definitely a win, no question about it. But it takes years to get to that point when you can finally say, I graduated, right? There are smaller wins along the way that you can definitely take note of.Lesley Logan 15:53  My senior year, one of the counselors used to have a dry erase board that they showed out their window and how I had to walk to class I don't pass this thing. Brad Crowell 16:00  They put a message on it? Lesley Logan 16:01  They put a message on it, and one day it said, every class, every day. And that was like our mantra, to show up to every class every day. We're like, we can do it. Every class, every day. And every day that we went to every class, we're like, oh, let's go get a latte we did it. So Brad, did you know I cut class? I knew exactly how many classes I could miss in a school year to still graduate with my honor. So I was like, I can miss this third period because I haven't missed it in a while, and I can. So anyways, figure out what the wins can be and make them small and achievable so that you actually start to give yourself the confidence. And I love that Stephan shared that with us, because I think we need that reminder. Brad Crowell 16:38  Yeah, all right, so finally, let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Stephan Neff? He explained, for many, gratitude does not come naturally. He said it's a practice, so it's a privilege to be here, be grateful, and practice that. It's a privilege. Then he said the most important bit is to finally stop for a moment and actually try to figure out who you want to be when you grow up. Lesley Logan 17:06  I know, and we're all still growing up, but we're 42 I know someone who's 62 and I was like, oh, that's I have so much time between now and then. Who do I want to be by then? I think it's cool. Brad Crowell 17:15  He said, create that dream in your mind who you actually want to be when you grow up. Change your dream to a vision by becoming very, very, very, very clear. Once you've nailed it down, go to that next feature until your dream has become a very clear vision. Lesley Logan 17:28  I can still hear his lovely accent saying, he's saying that he's so passionate about each of these Be It Action Items. He was so like into this whole section. Brad Crowell 17:35  I know you said New Zealand. I swear I thought he was from Germany. Lesley Logan 17:38  No, he's New Zealand. Brad Crowell 17:39  He's in New Zealand. He mentioned Germany. Lesley Logan 17:42  I know. I'm quite positive because of the time difference. It was like a whole different day. Brad Crowell 17:48  Okay, well, oh yeah, you know what, you mentioned, I think he was traveling to Gisborne. You did mention Gisborne. Lesley Logan 17:57  Gisborne. Brad Crowell 17:58  Gisborne, I don't know how to say it. Lesley Logan 18:00  Gisborne. I don't think the R is as emphasized as we do it. Brad Crowell 18:06  Emphasized.Lesley Logan 18:06  So anyways, emphasized. Brad Crowell 18:07  Yes, it's the place that they have the first light of the day every day. What about you? Let's get back to our Be It Action Items here. Lesley Logan 18:15  My biggest takeaway was give yourself a hug and spend 15 seconds with yourself after. So, let's do that.Brad Crowell 18:23  Yeah, let's do it right now. Lesley Logan 18:24  Close your eyes.Brad Crowell 18:25  So his hug was like, pretend you can bear hug yourself. So the biggest wrap around your shoulders that you could possibly do, and we're closing our eyes and we're going to do 15 seconds here. Lesley Logan 18:35  Squeeze hard as you can and tell yourself I love you. So, ready? Squeeze. I love you. I love you. 1001, 1002, 1003, do we hug? Do we stop hugging after 15 seconds? Or do we hug and then we spend 15 seconds?Brad Crowell 18:49  Just hug yourself. Lesley Logan 18:50  Okay, well, I'm trying to. Brad Crowell 18:51  Just hug. Just hug. Two, one, awesome. He said he's super good. He's known for giving bear hugs to his friends, but he realized he never gives a bear hug to himself, and I just got chills. I literally just got chills right now. Lesley Logan 19:08  I feel so good. I feel like I could end the day. It feels amazing. So. Brad Crowell 19:12  He said accept who you are, squeeze as hard as you can and tell yourself I love you.Lesley Logan 19:16  Okay, everyone, let us know if you gave yourself a hug. Make sure to tag Stephan. Tag the Be It Pod. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 19:22  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:23  Thank you so much for listening to us today. Thank you so much for sharing our podcast with your friends. Thank you for your reviews. They really mean the world to us. And make sure that you share your wins with us. You can start celebrating your wins by sending it to us. Brad Crowell 19:36  Yeah, text us. Lesley Logan 19:37  Yeah, that's exactly, or DM us or whatever, you know how to do it. We'll figure it out. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:43  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:45  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 20:28  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 20:33  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:37  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 20:44  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 20:47  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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As the Monty Python line goes, “And now it's time for something completely different!” In this brief episode, Nicolle provides a quick status update on her novel and shares a rock song she wrote the lyrics to. Enjoy! Find the song on Spotify: Marie Don't forget about the Balanced: Body, Mind, Energy Fair: https://healingbyhawkeye.com/events/ and https://www.facebook.com/healingbyhawkeye Subscribe to Nicolle's newsletter, find her books, or book a healing session at https://www.nicollemorock.com/ The talented Mr. Jeremy Moss http://jeremymosscomposer.com/ provides theme music (Listen through the end of the podcast to hear the whole theme song.) Connect with Nicolle at www.peeppodcast.com and https://www.facebook.com/P.E.E.P.Podcast Get merchandise at https://www.teepublic.com/user/peep-podcast

This episode is all about building strength, confidence, and a sustainable fitness routine. Nicole shares how to lose fat while building lean muscle through weight lifting, protein, mindset, and daily habits that actually stick. No extremes—just simple, effective strategies for lasting results! Balanced Body by Nicole was created by Nicole D'Arienzo to help women seamlessly integrate health and fitness into their lives in a personalized and realistic way. As a Certified Personal Trainer and Nutrition Coach, Nicole's mission is to help women feel strong, confident, and their absolute best at every stage of life. Accountability and consistency are the keys to transformation. Nicole provides the structure and support needed to make fitness a natural part of your life, whether in-person in Miami or online. Train with Nicole in Miami or Online! Use code “SOBER” for $100 off each month of training (for 3 months)   Follow her for more: @balancedbodybynicole Send us a DM with any questions, comments, coaching inquiries or topic ideas. We love to hear from you!! Let's connect!! Follow 2 Sober Girls on Instagram Sign up for our emails: https://www.2sobergirls.com/vip Sober Support: Join SOBER GIRLS MASTERMIND if you'd like to transform your relationship with alcohol, and heal your body and mind. This mastermind is for women who are ready to dedicate 1 year of their lives to sobriety. Our mastermind opens the door to exclusive training, weekly mastermind calls, resources, private group chat and sobriety support from Erinn and Michaela.  We are not addiction specialists, but are able to help guide you if additional support is needed in this area.  Michaela on Instagram Download ALL of Michaela's Free Resources Erinn on Instagram Erinn's Sober Life Simplified Guide Loved listening? Treat us to a coffee https://www.buymeacoffee.com/2sobergirlspodcast Make sure you leave us a review and share on social if you're loving the show. Subscribe to 2 Sober Girls Podcast wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss an episode! Thank you for supporting 2 Sober Girls Podcast by supporting our sponsors. Learn more:  https://www.2sobergirls.com/sponsors Disclaimer: Our podcast is designed to educate, inspire, and provide support on your personal journey to sobriety. This is not medical advice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who says you need pricey weight loss drugs to feel fabulous? Dr. Mindy shows how small habits, like getting enough Vitamin D and walking 4,000 steps a day, can transform your body and mind! Join the movement to a healthier you. Because, after all, middle-age doesn't have to mean giving up on your weight goals! To view full show notes, more information on our guests, resources mentioned in the episode, discount codes, transcripts, and more, visit https://drmindypelz.com/ep270 Check out our fasting membership at resetacademy.drmindypelz.com. Please note our medical disclaimer.

Despite being around for nearly 100 years, pilates has never been so popular.  As previously reported by Glossy, search volume for “pilates” was at an all-time high in January 2004, with small yearly spikes each January since. It wasn't until 2022 that search numbers topped those 2004 numbers before hitting an all-time in January 2023 and then again in January of 2024.  However, searches have already topped 2024 numbers during the first week of the new year, according to Google Trends. The highest search numbers are coming from Australia, Singapore, New Zealand and the U.K. The U.S. ranks ninth for searches so far this year.  Pilates is a low-impact strength and mobility training practice designed by Joseph Pilates in 1920s Europe to rehab injured WWI veterans. He developed its tenets on a machine crafted from bed springs and wooden boards, which later inspired the "reformer," a machine with straps and springs that's been evolved many times over for pilates practices today. Pilates is also taught on a yoga mat using hand weights, stretchy bands and other props.  Partially fueled by celebrity devotees like Hailey Bieber and Kendall Jenner, and propelled by viral fashion trends like 2024's #PinkPilatesPrincess, the exercise modality shows no signs of slowing in 2025.  It's something that Australia-based Emma Stallworthy is betting on with 4-year-old pilates rental and digital class subscription company Your Reformer. The company is well-known in Australia and New Zealand markets and, as of September, has officially expanded to the U.S. with its signature $39-per-week in-home reformer bed rentals. They come with more than 800 high-quality training videos on a corresponding app. The company also sells its reformer beds to consumers as well as studios, gyms and hotels. Your Reformer is fully bootstrapped by Stallworthy and her husband and co-founder Ben. The duo started as gym owners in Melbourne. After renting out their gyms' reformer beds during the pandemic, thy sold their gyms and doubled down on this new business. Emma is also a pilates instructor. The company has nearly no competition for reformer rentals. Leaders in the space selling or financing equipment include Stott Pilates, Balanced Body and Merrithew. Your Reformer beds sell for around $2,500, while the reformer bed prices of the aforementioned manufacturers start at around $5,000. Outside of the rentals, the company's reformer sales and corresponding digital classes mak up a unique business model that is best compared to Peloton stationary bikes. Peloton gained massive popularity during the pandemic but later experienced financial distress that led to cuts and the replacement of its CEO in 2024, as reported by CFO Drive.  Stallworthy joined the Glossy Beauty Podcast to discuss the company's growth and expansion to the U.S. in September, the secret sauce behind growing its digital class subscriptions, its beauty and wellness partnerships, and the overall rise of autonomous pilates classes.

Let's face it, Pilates has been one of the BIGGEST TRENDS of 2024. And understandably so. Many people, both men and women, have been looking for ways to increase their strength and tone their bodies without putting so much stress on them that they feel very tired at the end of the day. And lowkey I've been there before lol. With the rise of the popularity of Pilates, especially with TikTok influencers, sometimes I question if Pilates is really worth it. Especially as a tall girl.Today I'm joined by certified tall girl Debi aka Tall Girl Pilates on Instagram. Debi is a Pilates and fitness instructor dedicated to helping tall women and women over 35 years old find wellness through fitness. She's certified through Balanced Body and holds an NPCP certification, which is the only National Pilates Certification Program out there. This advanced certification requires renewal every two years through continuing education, meaning she's always learning and growing—not just as an instructor, but as a person, too.As a tall girl, she's struggled with keeping up in fitness. She found it difficult to do certain exercises (like squats) as fast as her peers and to use machines that don't cater well to long limbs. However, she learned over time that exercising as a tall woman is going to look extremely different than it does for others and works to spread that message through her content. Tune in to the full episode to learn more about her journey in fitness as a tall girl and some fitness/Pilates tips for tall women!! Here are her deets: Debi's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tallgirlpilates/Debi's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tallgirlpilates Support the podcast: https://buymeacoffee.com/atallgirlspodcast Subscribe to A Tall Girl's Newsletter: https://atallgirlspodcast.beehiiv.com/subscribeLet's stay connected: https://beacons.ai/atallgirlspodcast Leave a review and let me know how tall you are: https://atallgirlspodcast.com/reviews

"Living a pain-free, ageless life is only possible when we understand the power of creating a harmonious connection with our mindset, emotions and physical bodies." - Conni PonturoConni Ponturo is a leading authority in the field of pain-free living, which includes the power of creating a harmonious connection on mindset, emotions, and body. Respected for her unique approach to Transformational Movement that merges Polities, Meditation, and Mindset, Connie Ponturo teachers her clients how to flourish at ever stage and age of their life.Her latest book "Listen watch what you say, your body is listening" is a bestseller on Amazon, she travels the world teaching and speaking about easy to do techniques that allow you to connect with your body in a deep and lasting way.Her expertise in rehabilitative trading makes her highly sought after by the medical community for her ability to create a safe environment for recovery from hip replacements, spinal fusions, knee replacements, and other serious injuries. Conni holds multiple certifications including those from Pilates Method Alliance, Balanced Body, Physical Mind Institute. She is a certified Breast Cancer Exercise Specialist with The Pink Ribbon Program.Conni Ponturo knows that the answer to pain-free living is within us.She says, "When we truly investigate the connection between our thoughts, beliefs, and lifestyle patterns, we find that we can gain deeper insights into optimizing our freedom to move and live pain-free."This quick episode can be done sitting up or lying down.If you are new to this podcast or breathwork, you may find it helpful to listen to episode 1 first.Please consult your doctor before trying breathwork if you have any known health issues or are pregnant. Please do not do breathwork while in water, operating a vehicle or other heavy machinery.

In this inspiring recap, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell unpack the valuable lessons from stress management coach Sarah Alysse Bobo. Learn how to break free from stress cycles, reframe negative thoughts, and create space for calm and clarity. Brad and Lesley share actionable tips on living as your dream self, building confidence, and finding joy in intentional habits.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why stress often begins in the body before affecting the mind.The importance of identifying and reflecting on stress triggers.How shifting your narrative can help squash negative thought patterns.The power of setting up a sanctuary space for reflection and focus.Living as your dream self to embody confidence and purpose.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.comFlashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourBalanced Body Equipment - https://beitpod.com/equipmentEp. 400 with Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/ep400Ep. 448 with Ericka Nicole Malone - https://beitpod.com/ep448Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg - https://a.co/d/h1vEwtRMom & Me Astrology Podcast - https://beitpod.com/astrolgypodcast If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  She advised us to be your dream self and live in the dream self every single day. That's being it until you see it. So now you know why we had Sarah Alysse Bobo on. Lesley Logan 0:10  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:52  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the confident convo I had with Sarah Alysse Bobo in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one. You have missed out and you should listen to it. But you can listen to this one first, and then listen to that one. You can do whatever order you want. And then if you listen to that one first, you want to come back and join us here, because we've got lots of fun stuff to talk about. First, today is November 28th.Brad Crowell 1:14  Oh yeah.Lesley Logan 1:14  That means it's Thanksgiving Day Brad Crowell 1:17  And Lesley Logan 1:18  The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Do they still do it? Brad Crowell 1:21  Oh, they still do it. It's also the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.Lesley Logan 1:24  So America's Thanksgiving holiday, born in the 1500s, mythologized in 1621, and observed even during the bleakest hours of the Civil War, now stands as one of the nation's most anticipated and beloved dates. Is it, though? Is it? I celebrate each year. Brad Crowell 1:41  It's definitely part of American society, like football and.Lesley Logan 1:45  Yeah, but like, guess what are people anticipating and beloving? Brad Crowell 1:48  Travel. I mean, it's the most traveled holiday in the United States (inaudible). Lesley Logan 1:51  I think people are, they've bought into this Hallmark situation of family being together. But anyways, celebrated each year on the fourth Thursday in November, and this year it's on November 28th which means it's freaking so close to Christmas. It's less, that means Christmas is less than a month away. Brad Crowell 2:07  Every time. Every year. Lesley Logan 2:09  Sometimes it's close. Sometimes it's not the 28th. Sometimes it's like, earlier. This feels late to me. Brad Crowell 2:15  Yeah, it's the fourth Thursday of the month. But yeah, it's always like. Lesley Logan 2:18  I feel like it can happen sooner. Brad Crowell 2:20  It can. Yes. Perhaps the other non-sectarian holiday has more tradition. Non-sectarian means non-religious. Friends, food, family, football. I've come to symbolize Thanksgiving, a rare celebratory holiday without an exchange gift giving component. Instead, today urges all of us to be grateful for the things that we have. And for those of you who have no idea what we're talking about. This is very, it's a very American holiday, so thanks for listening and bearing with us here. Also, what is this Macy's Day Parade that we're talking about? It's one of the biggest and most anticipated events during this holiday. Everyone puts it on the TV. Everyone freezes their ass off in New York City, it's become a tradition among families to watch it.Lesley Logan 2:57  I like to see if one of those balloons takes off. I really love. Brad Crowell 3:01  You're in it for the fail? Lesley Logan 3:02  Yes, but I and then I caution. I also want to say, like, no one wanted anyone to hurt. (inaudible) no one gets hurt and Snoopy just like, goes off and becomes Godzilla.Brad Crowell 3:12  Okay, so, okay. So this is amazing to me. I grew up watching the Macy's Day Parade, and it's the first time that I was ever introduced to a concept of drag. Lesley Logan 3:21  Oh. Brad Crowell 3:22  Yeah, as a child, somehow it was totally okay, because it's part of the Macy's Day Parade. Everyone dresses up in these crazy costumes with sequins, and it's, you know, they're heavy, they're heavy, and it's like this massive thing, and it's basically, it's not like drag the way that we think of a drag show on stage, but it's effectively drag well, and it's the first time I ever really understood the idea of it. Anyway, it's. Lesley Logan 3:50  Interesting. Brad Crowell 3:51  I don't know. Lesley Logan 3:51  Sorry, babe.Brad Crowell 3:52  I always found it very intriguing.Lesley Logan 3:54  You know what Erika is really good at? Saying, don't ever do any of this unless it's a holiday and then it's okay. That's what we're so good at. Don't talk to strangers here. It's Halloween. Brad Crowell 4:04  Don't take candy from strangers unless it's out of their trunk and whatever they call it. Lesley Logan 4:10  Oh yeah, trick or trunking. Lesley Logan 4:10  Trick or trunking. What the hell? So we were in Halloween where these kids are coming up, we're talking to some random guy who lives next to the Murder House, and I'm like, oh my God, people are trick or treating. Anyways, he didn't tell us when the kids were around. But, the point being.Brad Crowell 4:24  All right, so Macy's Day Parade in 1924 and it became grown and grown and grown. But everyone built these floats. So these floats are like, different companies sponsor a float, and then the float, they push it down the middle of the street, and everyone marches around. There's marching in (inaudible).Lesley Logan 4:40  Often, like, Olympians are there. Yeah, there's, yeah it's really, the singers.Brad Crowell 4:44   The mayor's always riding a float.Lesley Logan 4:46  You do have to practice the wave you're gonna do, because if you do it too fast, you have to do it for too long. So it's gotta be. Brad Crowell 4:53  What are we doing? We're practicing the Queen's wave. That was happening? Lesley Logan 4:56  Didn't she do a one-two elbow like, there is, I don't know. There is one where you pull because you, you're gonna get tired if you don't. You gotta pick the right wave. Brad Crowell 5:08  I think I'll just do my fingers.Lesley Logan 5:11  I would find an attachment arm and just have my own arm in a sling. And then there's a robot arm that's just waving.Brad Crowell 5:18  The other thing I remember about the Macy's Day Parade is I remember how cold it was in Thanksgiving when I was growing up, and I just remember thinking those people are out there wearing not enough clothes, because some of the costumes are not. Lesley Logan 5:32  Yeah, they're, but they're moving so they're warm. At any rate, however you think about this holiday, because I know you live in the States, a lot of like, why are we celebrating this day? Probably, you know, gave, like, all these diseases to the Indians. We probably stole it from them, we didn't steal from them, all these things. It is a great day to be grateful. And I think we can change the definition of holidays to fit the life we want to live. We can. We really can. How do we celebrate Thanksgiving? By doing nothing.Lesley Logan 6:03  We participate in the Black Friday, Cyber Monday sales as a business, and then as a household, we take advantage of supporting small businesses, and we shop at the mall on Saturday. And that's what this holiday is all about. That's how I see it. But I think you can change it up how you want to feel, and you don't have to have turkey on this day. Brad Crowell 6:17  No, I used to have king crab. Lesley Logan 6:20  Yeah, we also had a whole Thanksgiving, and why we don't cook anymore is because everyone made a bacon-wrapped something, and we decided that maybe we should just order in. But at any rate, if you're listening to this on Thanksgiving, thank you so much for listening. Brad Crowell 6:34  Yeah, we hope you'll have a good time with your family. Lesley Logan 6:36  Yeah, we hope you are or if you're listening this, because you're trying to get away from them, hi, we see you. I see you. Real quick, if your family's driving you crazy, what better chance, better day than to buy yourself a trip to Cambodia with us and come on our retreat, because then you can, you can actually be going, oh my gosh, I can count on the days to Cambodia with Brad Lesley, go to crowsnesttreatsretreats.com to snag your spot for our retreat in February. Brad Crowell 6:58  crowsnestretreats, plural. Lesley Logan 6:58  Especially if it is cold where you are, and you're like, oh my god, this is way too cold for me. Yeah, it won't be cold in Cambodia. No, I promise you, even when it's cold to them, it's hot to us, so you will love the weather. I just got back from LA, Brad and I did the photo shoot for the accessories deck. It was super fun. It's a crazy holy moly, did we bite off more than we could chew with this situation? But a couple of epic exercises in there. Lesley Logan 7:26  Multiple locations for this photo shoot. The amount of stuff Brad had to drive into LA. Brad Crowell 7:26  Yeah, I just assembled it and reassembled it. Lesley Logan 7:34  Yeah. And shout out to our photographer, Jerry Camarillo. He is amazing, and always somehow manages to put up with, "Can I fit in the frame? But, can I though?" All right, so go to opc.me/flash cardwait list if you are wanting this deck. And by the way, if you want this deck, you don't have to have equipment to have to make use of this deck. It's so great. Brad Crowell 7:54  Yeah, join me for, actually, this is the next year you're adding yourself to the waitlist for the next time I do the Profitable Pilates Accelerator as a studio growth accelerator, so if you're feeling stuck with your money or your business in any way, come join me. Lesley and I have coached more than 2000 businesses. I mean, geez, at this point we're getting close to like 2500 businesses over the past six years, and we've got three main things that we've come to understand will completely change how you make your money, and I'm going to share those with you for free. So come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And then. Lesley Logan 8:34  A week from today, we're on tour. Let's do it. Let's see you in real life. Yeah. Well, the sixth is the first event of December. Come see us while we're on the road. We can't wait to be driving near you. This time we're doing a path that we haven't done in the past. We're going along Route 40. We're going through Oklahoma City, first time we've ever done that. That's gonna be amazing. We're going all the way up to Maine. Holy cow, we're gonna go to Cape Cod. I mean, there's just a lot that we've never done before. It's really fun for us to get to explore. But also the best part about it is meeting you in real life. So come out. Come join us. Wherever it is (inaudible). Lesley Logan 9:07  We'll have the boys with us. They want us, they'll be so excited to see you. We'll have equipment with us. Shout out to our sponsor, Balanced Body. We'll have gift certificates from them to raffle off. You want those so opc.me/tour to snag your spot. Literally, cities have every event has sold out, so you want to move fast. Brad Crowell 9:25  Yeah. Don't sit on this. Lesley Logan 9:25  Yeah. Okay. Instead of an audience question, we actually just wanted to take a moment to say thank you. Some of you have been so wonderful at sending in your gratitude for how we've handled certain topics on this episode, how we've brought in different things, how some of the podcasts have helped you understand people in your life. And we just want to say that when you send those gratitudes in, it really does. Brad Crowell 9:46  Means a lot. Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah. And so we just want to say thank you. And I know we say thank you after every episode, so I just, I do understand that. Brad Crowell 9:53  Yeah, but this is a little more reflective. I mean, the reality is, you know. Lesley Logan 9:56  This is episode 452. Brad Crowell 9:58  Yeah, some people have been listening for three plus years. Lesley Logan 10:01  Some people only started this year, but they literally started from episode one and caught up. Brad Crowell 10:04  We also got an outpouring of love from y'all when Gaia passed away, and that meant a lot to us. We just are grateful that you are participating as well in this experience, because otherwise it's, Lesley and I love to talk to each other, but. Lesley Logan 10:05  We don't have to sit and record it. Brad Crowell 10:08  We're doing this for a different reason. We're grateful to know that it has had an impact, and we hope that it continues to grow and continue to have an impact, inspiring people to be it until they see it. So thank you. Lesley Logan 10:33  And if it's your first episode and you got this far, thank you. Brad Crowell 10:36  Yeah, that's awesome. All right, stick around real quick, because we're gonna jump into this awesome interview that Lesley have with Sarah Alysse Bobo. That's two times in a row, two episodes in a row. Now we've had a three name person, Sarah Alysse Bobo. She did say she also just goes by Sarah Allyse, but she's a stress management coach, and we can't wait to dig into it. So stick around. Brad Crowell 11:01  All right. Now, let's talk about Sarah Alysse Bobo. Sarah is a stress management coach and founder of Live Well Enhance You, a company focused on helping individuals and corporations manage stress. Originally a Pilates instructor, she expands her expertise through health and wellness coaching with the Integrative Institute of Nutrition. Sarah teaches practical tools like breath work, self reflection and mindset shifts to empower clients in reducing stress and improving overall well being. That's kind of a mouthful, but basically, she helps people de-stress. Lesley Logan 11:35  Yeah, yeah, that's what she does. So we talked about, we have to make sure it's become a habitual habit of a stress cycle, I think because our brains like to do certain things. And if you want to go back to Episode 400 when Gay Hendricks talks about the ways that we Upper Limit ourselves, one of those things is worry. Worry is just stressing about something that's outside of your control. I mean, there are worries that are inside your control, but like when you're Upper Limiting, it's worry. And so what happens is we create cycles. Oh, this happened, and now I immediately go into this domino effect of this thing. Brad Crowell 12:06  It's habitual (inaudible). Lesley Logan 12:07  And you can create your own. You can keep the stress going by like, oh, you know, whenever you check your social media, it makes you stressed out, or whenever you check your email on your day off, it makes you stressed out. But you do it because you created this habit. And we have to make sure we don't create that. And she did say that that does gradually build over time, so it's possible that now you're aware of it, so don't shame yourself. Take Ericka Nicole Malone's advice from last week, be kind to yourself. But we have to try to stop it before it becomes something that builds up into a cycle. And she also mentioned that it get builds up in your body and then travels to your brain, so that I found very interesting.Brad Crowell 12:46  So like, physically, I thought it was the other way around. I thought that you had stress and then it, like, stored your body. Lesley Logan 12:53  Yeah, no, no, this is her quote. So.Brad Crowell 12:55  Okay. Lesley Logan 12:58  I'm not the scientist, and I didn't study stress, so I can't say that, but also it does make sense. It can start in the body and then go to the brain, and then it can become this cycle that goes from the brain into the body. Yes, you do store things, but I think as you store it in your body, it's probably because your brain told you. Anyways. you know, Sarah Lee has all the details on this. You can also listen to the episode. She also said it's important to reflect and identify the possible stress triggers. This is hard to do when you're stressed out, but if you can get a, if you can almost have an awareness like, oh my God, I'm in a stress cycle right now, and you can just take a second to pause the stressing that you're doing and go, "What happened right before this? What was that? What was that prompt?" And here's the thing, when you breaking, breaking in air quotes, unraveling habits that have to do with a little bit more psychology, brain emotion is actually an advanced thing to do so. BJ, Fogg, who's the author of Tiny Habits, when I study with him, if you're like, I want to stop saying mean things to myself, right? That's a great goal to have. We all want you to do that, but to have the ability to catch yourself in the moment of saying something negative is extremely advanced. So you may need to have a partner in your life who's like, pause, we're going to just take a moment. You seem to be really stressed out right now about this thing? Is it really about this thing? What prompted this? What started this? So that you can be able to throw out what that prompt is because maybe it's every time you talk to your mother in law. I'm not. This is not I never my, I never talk to my mother in law. So this is obvious, not a story for me, but I'm talking about for my friends. Then maybe you need to take BJ Fogg's advice, which is like he had this client who had to talk to her ex husband or so next ex husband, and she just said every time I have to have a call with him, I'm gonna get my nails done or I'm gonna go buy that fancy coffee. I'm gonna do so that she wouldn't avoid the thing that was stressing her out, and then she wouldn't be stressed out from the thing because she did something that filled her up. So all this to say, I'm bringing in a couple different experts to help you reflect and identify the possible stress triggers so that you don't let it build up in your brain and your body, so that it doesn't become a habitual cycle there. Brought it all back together.Lesley Logan 14:59  That's a win. Lesley Logan 15:01  Your turn. Brad Crowell 15:01  That's a win, all right. So I really liked when she was talking about the spiral that you were just talking about the negative thought patterns, she said you could squash all those by changing your story. The reality is, there's so much belief associated with our success, and this was like a triple woo to me a couple years ago, and when I experienced it in my life, made me realize that it's just normalBrad Crowell 15:02  Wow. So they went from triple woo to just?Brad Crowell 15:10  Yeah. I was just like, just me how to do it. There's a belief, crap, whatever. But I've told this short story before, but I remember growing up playing soccer where they were, like, you're looking down, you're watching your foot connect with the ball. You're trying to keep your knee over your foot as you hit the ball, and you are envisioning the ball going in net. Yes, they say similar things with softball, yeah, but the envision of the ball going in the net part, that's like, somehow, when I got older, I thought that was like, triple whoop. Lesley Logan 16:00  Well, where, your mind goes, energy flows. So that's where that. Brad Crowell 16:04  That's what they say. So ultimately, there's a belief associated with these are the actions I've taken. this is how I've set myself up for success. And then I'm going to believe that that ball is going into that net, right? And I love that, because I forgot that along the way. And so Sarah Alysse is reminding us, you can squash negative thought patterns by changing your story. And because the things that we tell ourselves are so repetitive that we don't even know that we're saying them as we say them. Lesley Logan 16:32  We supposedly have, like, I don't know 80,000 different, 80,000 thoughts in a day, or 60,000 thoughts in a day, and like 75% of them are negative and the same. Brad Crowell 16:41  Well, that's insane. Between six and 60,000 thoughts a day. Lesley Logan 16:44  Between six thoughts and 60,000Brad Crowell 16:47  6,000 and 60,000 (inaudible). So the thing is, we tell ourselves these things of like, I'm not pretty I can't do this. I'm not good enough for this. A story I used to tell myself when I worked in my company is I don't belong here. And the reason is because, in my mind, I was like, I went to music school. These guys all went to business school. I don't belong here. Now, I never said that to them, but that's just what I told myself. I don't know why I told myself that. She said hey, you can change this negative thought pattern when you change your story. She said what is really holding you back from moving forward and doing the thing that you think that you can't do. What is it really that's holding you back? She emphasized the importance of shifting your mindset and opening yourself up to new opportunities. So I don't know that in the moment, it's really hard to catch yourself like you were just saying. But if you're thinking back and reflecting on how the day went, and you're like, I didn't set myself up for a win there. Maybe reflecting back on that, taking some time to set aside and think about it. The next time you find yourself in that situation, maybe you can catch yourself part way. Lesley Logan 17:50  Well, changing the story is so years ago, I heard this woman speak, and I'm forgetting her name, but she said, instead of saying, I can't afford something, she says, I choose not to spend money on that right now, because it puts her in the power position of she's not a victim of her situation. She is in charge of her situation, and that energy around that there's less stress, because it's not I can't afford that right now. Another thing I can't afford, you just go in the stress fire wall. She's like, I'm choosing not to spend money on that right now. No, oh, no, I'm making that investment at this moment, and so it becomes this powerful, like you're making decisions from a powerful place. I really, I wish I can remember her name, you guys. She spoke from a source that came in from the cloud. So to be honest, was a little weird, but I loved that.Brad Crowell 18:36  All right. Well, we're going to be talking about some other kind of clouds with a sanctuary space, to just a minute. Lesley Logan 18:42  I, did you watch that real I sent you about the blind guy making a basket. Oh, you did not? Gotcha. Brad Crowell 18:47  Yeah, I don't do social media (inaudible). Lesley Logan 18:49  I sent it to you and my dad and my brother. It's in the text. So this blind guy is walking by, and these two guys are playing basketball. They are taught. They talk to him, and he's like, Oh, I've never shot a basketball. And they, he's blind, has a blind stick and everything like, blind, and they get put a ball in his hand, and they start talking through, and of course, they were also demonstrating, which was funny, because he's blind. But anyway, they were talking through, how to hold the ball, how to lift the ball. They're using his stick to hit the basket so he could hear it. They're taking him under, like, okay, this is where the basket is stepping him back, okay, this is where you're throwing from. And the first throw, he nothing but net. And I was in tears. It was so good. And so that man had a belief he could do it. Just saying. Brad Crowell 19:36  That was incredible. Lesley Logan 19:37  I'm just going back to your eye on the prize thing. Okay. Brad Crowell 19:39  Okay, stick around. We're going to talk about a sanctuary space in just a sec. Brad Crowell 19:42  All right, finally, let's talk about those. Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Sarah Alysse Bobo. She said set up a sanctuary space. I've experienced these in people's homes before, and I always thought they were a little strange. Got like a little altar going on. So I've always thought they were weird, until we started to do them ourselves. Why would you set up a sanctuary space? What is a sanctuary space? It's just a place where you can sit down and change. It's like changing your environment, right? And you're putting yourself in a space that can bring you joy or relaxation or meditation or reflection. Maybe you want to remember someone who was alive and is not or something like that. Or maybe you want to reflect on how we just celebrated Thanksgiving, you know, like, maybe you want to think about how your life is amazing and it puts you in this different place. We have a money corner in our house, right? And so we set that up so that when we go in there, we remember to think about money, right? It's funny to say it that way. Lesley Logan 20:46  I I play sometimes, sometimes I will play Abraham Hicks Money Rampage, because it's just around five minutes long, when I'm in the money corner and I'm like, in the cold plunge, trying to breathe through and I'm like. Brad Crowell 20:59  That's a fun way to start money is coming into my place right here, right? It doesn't have to come right now, but it could feel money on its way.Brad Crowell 21:07  I love that. So yeah, for sure. Lesley Logan 21:10  Also, for those who have small spaces, or you've got kids or like, there's no way I could have a sanctuary space. It doesn't have to be big, and it doesn't even have to include a chair. Brad Crowell 21:20  No, it could be your windowsill. Yeah, we're gonna have mommy and astrology hosts on at the end of this year, but they have an episode on their podcast called Mommy and Astrology about how to create an altar. And they literally talk about what kinds of things you put on an altar. An altar is another way of saying a sanctuary space. What are you wanting to call in, things that can represent things that you want to call in. And it can be a windowsill. It can be just like when you're at your desk. It could be the wall that's right behind your computer. So don't let. I don't know what I have to say.Brad Crowell 21:49  It's a space where you can be present with yourself and then set you up to conquer the rest of your day. So what did you, what was your biggest takeaway? Lesley Logan 21:56  So she advised us to be your dream self and live in the dream self every single day. That's being it until you see it. So now you know why we had Sarah Alysse Bobo on .But she said, if you want to be the CEO of a Pilates studio, then you have to go live that dream life. And this is exactly what I had to think about years ago, before this podcast ever existed and I was going to open my own space, and I was like faith. I've been a manager, but I've never been a studio owner, as if they were two different things. And I was like, hold on, what if I knew what I needed to do do this, and how does my day change, and what things piss me off, and what things take my time and by changing before we even open the studio, because we had, like, four months between when we decided to open the studio and opening the studio, I started to change what I responded to and how I responded to it, because of, well, if I was a studio owner, I wouldn't actually have time to deal with this little shenanigan thing over here right now. So I'm just not gonna deal with that, because this is what I'm making time for.Lesley Logan 22:51  I'm just not gonna deal with that, because this is what I'm making time for. So I really, really love it. And then she said, you can figure this out by asking what is going to move the needle forward. Brad Crowell 23:02  One small step. Lesley Logan 23:02  Yeah, I love it. She was great. It was really fun. We packed a lot in here. So I just really enjoy you, Sarah Alysse Bobo. I hope to see you. She's in Florida. We should reach out. Brad Crowell 23:12  Oh, cool. Lesley Logan 23:13  Hopefully we'll see you on the tour. And you guys, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 23:17  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 23:18  One more time, thank you again for listening to our amazing podcast. We are in the top 1.5% because of you. And more on that, in the December episodes we've already recorded, and you know would mean a world to us, to for you to take your favorite, Be It Pod episode, and share it with a friend, that'd be so, so great. Let us know. Send in your questions, send in your aha moments, send us Your FYF so we can celebrate you. So we can answer your questions. So we can support you each support you each and every day on your journey to be it till you see it. Have an amazing day. Lesley Logan 23:46  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Ep 121 Description:  “If we mentally prepare ourselves for even the unknown and not think we know everything, that's the first step into just being okay with any direction that happens.” —Rachael Van Schoick   Maintaining a balanced body and pelvic health is crucial for a positive pregnancy and birth experience. Proper alignment, mobility, and pelvic floor awareness can help facilitate an easier labor and postpartum recovery. Integrating holistic wellness practices throughout the childbearing year can empower women to embrace this transformative journey with confidence. This week, we are joined by Rachael Van Schoick. Rachael is a dedicated mother, a passionate advocate for holistic wellness, and a certified birth doula and licensed massage therapist. Drawing on her background in osteopathy, Rachel offers personalized care to expectant and new mothers, helping them achieve physical and emotional balance. In this episode, Rachael shares the challenges she faced during and after pregnancy and how her healing journey inspired her to become a doula. Listen in as Debra and Rachael discuss the "balanced system" approach to birth and pregnancy, the importance of postpartum care and healing, Rachael's programs that support new mothers in reconnecting with their bodies, and more.      Connect with Debra! Website: https://www.orgasmicbirth.com  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orgasmicbirth X: https://twitter.com/OrgasmicBirth  YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/OrgasmicBirth1  Tik Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@orgasmicbirth  Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-pascali-bonaro-1093471      Episode Highlights: 02:31 Rachel's First Birth 07:56 Rachel's Second Birth 12:55 Emotional and Physical Healing Journey Postpartum 16:55 Pelvic Floor Therapy 21:33 Becoming a Doula 24:24 Balance Approach to Pregnancy and Birth Preparation 30:36 Rachel's Postpartum Program    

Join Lesley and Brad as they reflect on their interesting conversation with the late Tom Palladino, a pioneer in scalar light research. Tom shared insights into his passion for helping others through energy healing, his unwavering positivity, and his unwavering dedication to making a difference. Together, they dive into Tom's legacy and beliefs on eliminating distractions to embrace life's true calling, even amid skepticism.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Tom's journey and unwavering belief in scalar energy despite skepticismThe power of blocking out negativity to fuel self-belief and sustained motivationFinding happiness by setting small daily goals and embracing progressHow to move forward confidently without letting others' doubts detract from your vision.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.comFlashcard Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourCadillac Flashcards - https://beitpod.com/cadillacflashcardsBalanced Body/Contrology Equipment - https://beitpod.com/equipmentScalar Light - https://www.scalarlight.comScalar Light Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/experiencescalarEp. 436 Lisa Schlosberg - https://beitpod.com/436 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS!Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy WebinarResources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramThe Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channelFacebookLinkedInThe OPC YouTube Channel Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  I'm intrigued by the claims that he was making, because I felt like, if it's reality, then it's amazing.Lesley Logan 0:08  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:50  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the interesting convo I had with Tom Paladino in our last episode. Here's the deal. Normally, this is where I say you should go listen to that one and you should. Unfortunately, our guest passed away two weeks after we interviewed them. However, their family still does their work, and so we decided to continue to share his work and his words with you. So go listen, and if you are still interested in what they do, the family actually still does the scalar work, and you can actually see it on their Facebook group. All right. So anyways, go listen. And now, today, I mean, it's just so interesting, I feel like I just need to take a beat. Brad Crowell 1:32  Yeah. Lesley Logan 1:32  We found out yesterday, before we recorded this, I interviewed a guy last year who was dying of cancer. I knew he was gonna die and his episode came out, he was still alive. And I was like, oh, you're still here. But I, that is, you know, you all think about that. We just think we're gonna live forever. So, anyways, he passed away from a fall. Brad Crowell 1:51  Yeah, he fell and that was it. Lesley Logan 1:53  Yeah, the family decided to donate his organs, which is really cool. And if you haven't yet done that on your driver's license or your iPhone. You should do that because. Brad Crowell 2:02  I think I have (inaudible) driver's license. Lesley Logan 2:04  But didn't you just do it on my health app on my iPhone?Brad Crowell 2:06  Yeah, but that's just to tell anyone who picks up your phone that you are an organ donor. It doesn't that's not a legal declaration. You need to do it through your driver's license.Lesley Logan 2:15  Well, I currently don't even have my driver's license, so. Brad left it in LA. Ah.Brad Crowell 2:23  Sure. Lesley Logan 2:23  All right. Well, with that, well go do that. Go notify the powers that be or at least your family and friends who have you know medical decisions over you. Today is November 7th and it is Project Management Day. About this day. It's International Project Management Day is celebrated annually on the first Thursday of November, and is all about appreciating the important role project managers play on organizations. This year it falls on November 7th. Without project managers, the huge projects companies take on will be, frankly, impossible to achieve. LaVerne Johnson and Lori Milhaven of the International Institute for Learning (I.I.L.) created this day to give project managers the spotlight and appreciation they deserve. Shout out to Meridith who keeps us all on point and on time if you listen to the end credits and if you don't know that line, you don't listen to the end credits, we caught you. Brad Crowell 3:10  Yeah, that's right. Lesley Logan 3:10  And you might not know, might not know a project manager in your life, but you might be one, and so you might be the person who's managing all the projects and the day and today is your day.Brad Crowell 3:19  Today is your day. Congratulations. Lesley Logan 3:22  Yeah, to Meridith. Also, we should acknowledge that we are recording this before the election and this episode is coming out after the election, so we are either celebrating like crazy or crying in a dark room. We don't know. Brad Crowell 3:36  It's true. That's very true. Lesley Logan 3:38  I think if you listen to last week's episode with Tia Levings and our recap there, you know, where our heart (inaudible) and also just the fact that we want all of you to live your best life, that should just give it away of where our heart desires (inaudible). And so. Brad Crowell 3:51  And we have rights. Yeah. Lesley Logan 3:52  Yeah. Rights. You know, that thing. And that everyone has equal opportunities to living an amazing life. Brad Crowell 3:58  And voting. Lesley Logan 3:59  Yeah. But that thing, voting, so many ways. I'm just gonna be really honest, I think we take a moment. In this moment, I could be eating my words. I actually think she's gonna slay. Brad Crowell 4:09  It's gonna be close. Lesley Logan 4:10  Fine. Well, that's because we have to get rid of Electoral College, that racist bullshit. Because if we got rid of that, none of us would be taking Prilosec every day. I just feel like a lot of people are excited to vote for her.Brad Crowell 4:10  Yeah, I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. Yeah. Lesley Logan 4:14  Yeah, but obviously it's too late to tell you to go vote. Don't vote now, that would be wrong. You should have voted, and if you didn't, you need to make a voting plan and need a project manager in your life. Brad Crowell 4:33  That's right. Lesley Logan 4:33  To make that happen. Brad Crowell 4:34  It's true. It's very true. Lesley Logan 4:36  Okay, we just, like, literally, in recording this, we actually just got back from Cambodia, but we've been back for a while when you hear this, and we are going again in February, and now is the perfect time to snag your spot. You may be wanting to escape, or you might want to celebrate all the possible awesome, amazing (inaudible) that are going to happen in a new democracy here in this, we don't know. We don't, I don't know what's happening in the world right now. But either way, Cambodia is a great place to go to.Brad Crowell 5:04  We had a largest group we've ever taken this past trip. Lesley Logan 5:07  Oh, my God. It was amazing. Brad Crowell 5:08  Yeah, it was, we had 21 guests. It was incredible and.Lesley Logan 5:13  No. We had 20.Brad Crowell 5:15  23 of us total. My guess.Lesley Logan 5:16  Yes, okay, okay, okay. Brad Crowell 5:18  And so it was great. It went off without a hitch. We had a great team around us, and incredible food, incredible experiences, amazing temple touring. You know, I was really proud of everybody on our team, and also I was really excited for everyone who joined us, because we lucked out with some of the weather. Obviously, that's one factor we cannot control, and it was a little bit overcast, which was quite nice for when we were out, which is usually like the hot sun, we were in a little bit of shade, so that was great. But we would love for you to join us in February, because this is the kind of trip that is a marker in your life. It will be pre-Cambodia and post-Cambodia. Lesley Logan 6:04  Oh, yeah. Brad Crowell 6:05  And you will talk about this trip for the rest of your life. Lesley Logan 6:07  You all have to just watch Ainsley stand in the rain. And she did that. She came to Cambodia and knows she want to do that, because (inaudible) Cambodia. I do the same workshops, you know, that I've done before. And so I just said to her hey, like, how was that? Because you already did these a year ago. She's like oh, I was such a different person a year ago. It was, like, a whole new experience, right? And we already have people on that one who are coming on the next one, they're already, like, knowing, they know they're doing it again, because it is truly life changing, and it's really spectacular. You just get so good at being so present. You, like, you can only be when you're there, and so it's fabulous. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot for February.Brad Crowell 6:45  Yeah, come join us. Lesley Logan 6:46  All right, I'm also getting ready to go to LA. I am gonna be camping at Brad's friend's house. I mean, they're my friends now. We've been married for nine years, so. Brad Crowell 6:54  It's true. They're your friends too. Camping is a funny way to say you're gonna use their guest bedroom. But, yeah, camping. Lesley Logan 7:01  Is it a guest bedroom, Brad? Brad Crowell 7:02  It's David's office. There's a pull-out couch. Lesley Logan 7:06  There's not a wall on one side. So I'm gonna call that glamping. But I'm doing that because I'm gonna do the photo shoot for the accessories deck in a couple of weeks, and that means we are getting that much closer to the accessories deck coming out the last deck, and this deck is gonna have the Sandbag, the Two by Four, the Toe Corrector, the push up devices, the Guillotine, the Ped-o-Pull, towel exercises, a pencil exercise, a marble exercise, tons of things you can make at home, only a few you'd actually have to buy. So majority of deck can be used by anybody. And it's really amazing for just supporting your practice if you've been wanting to do Pilates more often, but maybe you can't go to a studio that much like this deck is for you, so you want to be on the waitlist for that. But also the team and I are really trying to get this deck done, because we are tired of releasing decks in hurricane season, so I am on a mission to (inaudible). So instead of it being a late Q2 presale. It would be an early Q2 presale.  Brad Crowell 7:10  So that we can ship in the summer. Lesley Logan 8:04  Ship before hurricane season because, holy fucking moly, two hurricanes stop fulfillment wise back to back. Brad Crowell 8:12  Back to back. Oh and last year that happened too. Lesley Logan 8:15  Yeah, no, I'm done. We're done with that. We're not doing that anymore.Brad Crowell 8:18  This year was two, two in a row within one month, there was two (inaudible). Lesley Logan 8:22  Yeah, three decks got out in between hurricanes. It was, I mean, everyone's safe. I can't complain. Our decks are safe. We are very, very lucky. But also, I'll be honest with our listeners, some people aren't fucking patient, and the nasty emails of impatient people, I'm like, Helene has caught, all of our people had to evacuate, so they're not at work right now, and UPS is not delivering, so you just need to take a beat and just pray that everyone's safe, and then they'll be delivering shortly. But you know, some people just aren't patient. Most of our listeners are. Thank you so much. But anyways, so that's how I really feel about that opc.me/flashcardwaitlist gets you on the waitlist. Why do you wanna be on the waitlist? Because the waitlist gets the best sale price of the decks ever. Brad Crowell 9:07  It's the truth. (inaudible) Lesley Logan 9:08  So because you'll be the ones who are patiently waiting through hurricane season, okay, no, you won't. We're gonna, we're gonna beat it to it. Then, Brad, you want to take it over? Brad Crowell 9:16  Yeah, totally. Okay. We are back and I am back in my routine doing some webinars here, I'm really excited to be able to share the top three things that Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2000 businesses. These are the three things that move the needle on how do you grow your income in your studio, whether that is a home studio, a brick and mortar studio, whether you're renting from somebody and I want you to join me. It's a free webinar. It's called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator and it's only an hour. We shortened it. I was doing an hour and a half before, and I just realized it was too long. So come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O, prfit.biz/accelerator and get yourself signed up for free. Come join me, and I can't wait to dig into this topic with you and share these things that we've learned with you, and then, around the corner before we even realize it.Lesley Logan 10:13  Oh my gosh, it's a month from this release. Brad Crowell 10:16  It's so true. Lesley Logan 10:17  Like, the first stop is on the sixth of December. So it's in one month, the winter tour. You guys, you have to come.Brad Crowell 10:24  Yeah, come party with us. It's going to be so fun. Lesley Logan 10:27  We have 23 cities at the time we're recording this, seven cities are sold out of classes. Brad Crowell 10:31  I can't even believe it, literally, on the very, y'all are impressive, okay. On the very first day that we announced that there was tickets, three spots sold out within 24 hours? Lesley Logan 10:41  Three cities sold out in 24 hours. Yes, yes. And five within 48 and now we're at and then Boston sold out in 24 hours of it being announced. So you guys, I can't even list the cities without looking at it, so just go opc.me/tour (inaudible). We're starting in Sedona, we're doing Oklahoma City. And then I forget the third, is the New Orleans the third one? Brad Crowell 11:05  No, Memphis.Lesley Logan 11:06  Memphis. Brad Crowell 11:06  And then Huntsville. Lesley Logan 11:07  And then Huntsville, Alabama. Brad Crowell 11:09  Yeah, New Orleans is on the way home. Lesley Logan 11:10  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then from Huntsville, Alabama, I. Brad Crowell 11:13  Atlanta, Greensboro, Washington DC, I think Pennsylvania, before (inaudible).Lesley Logan 11:18  And then Maine and then Boston, and then Cape. Brad Crowell 11:21  Cape Cod. Lesley Logan 11:22  When's Providence? Brad Crowell 11:23  After that. Lesley Logan 11:24  After that. Greenwich. Brad Crowell 11:25  Yes. Lesley Logan 11:26  Then we have Christmas and then, and then, from Christmas. Brad Crowell 11:30  We're going down, I think, I don't know if we have a stop in Delaware. I think we're just going to Delaware to see the fam. Lesley Logan 11:35  No stop in Delaware. Brad Crowell 11:36  And then we go down to South Carolina. Lesley Logan 11:38  Yeah, Charleston, Miami, Tampa, Pensacola. Brad Crowell 11:42  Yep, then Pensacola, New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, Lubbock. We have Lubbock.Lesley Logan 11:50  Yeah. They promised me a good latte. They said they have it. They said it's a college town.Brad Crowell 11:55  Lubbock and then. Lesley Logan 11:56  Phoenix. Brad Crowell 11:57  Yeah, then we're gonna go over to Phoenix. Lesley Logan 11:58  We just named them. Brad Crowell 11:59  I can't believe it. I think that's 23 (inaudible) we may have, I think we got them all. Lesley Logan 12:02  I hope we didn't miss any. (inaudible) Anyways, if we missed you, you must be sold out. Brad Crowell 12:07  It's gonna be amazing. We kick off the beginning of December, and we literally Lesley Logan 12:10  (inaudible) Virginia Beach. Brad Crowell 12:11  Oh, that's where it was. Virginia Beach. Okay. 34 days on the road y'all. 34 days on the road. So come hang out with us.Lesley Logan 12:20  We're gonna love each other more or. Just saying.Brad Crowell 12:24  Yeah, and we will be bringing our pups, two of them this time, obviously, but they'll be with us.Lesley Logan 12:28  Oh, I don't think we've told everyone we said goodbye to Gaia. I don't think, we did it online only, we didn't tell our listeners.Brad Crowell 12:35  Well, if you haven't heard it's been a month since us recording this, Gaia has taken the rainbow road. Lesley Logan 12:42  Yes, the rainbow bridge. Brad Crowell 12:44  It's been a challenging, one of the most challenging decisions that I've ever had to make in my life, but she's in a better place so. Lesley Logan 12:53  Yeah. And also, our boys are really quiet and you know that from listening to podcasts since she's fast there's no flapping of her collar or digging at the chair. Brad Crowell 13:06  Or scratching at the door or barking at nothing.Lesley Logan 13:11  We also have a little bit more time. It's really weird. I miss her, though. It's so I look at the art, the artist is fucking awesome for this tour. You guys. It's like a rap album. It's fucking off. Brad Crowell 13:20  Yeah, it's fun. Lesley Logan 13:21  And I actually had to look at it before she passed away, and I, because I had to approve it, and I didn't want you to see it, and I had to approve it without her on it. And I was like, so anyway, she's not on it, and people are like, oh, there's only two, but there's two boys, they can't wait to see you and it's gonna be a lot of fun. So opc.me/tour to get your tickets, workshops are all levels, so you don't have to be a teacher to get them. There are CECs if you are a teacher. Brad Crowell 13:48  Even the classes are also all levels. So yeah. Lesley Logan 13:49  Classes are all levels. So come, come, come, trust me. Brad Crowell 13:51  Even if you're brand new. Lesley Logan 13:53  Oh yeah. I have literally had a class of eight teachers and two first timers, and let me tell you, they slayed. So, me too. So go to opc.me/tour this is the winter tour, we talked about this before, it is awesome, because it's either the best excuse to get you away from your family during the holidays, or it allows you to bring your family with you and you have a shared experience. But I'll entertain them for a couple of hours. You don't have to do anything. So, yeah.Brad Crowell 14:17  Awesome. Well, before we move into talking about Tom and digging into scalar light, we had an audience question. So Theresa8294 on YouTube asks, hey, Lesley, on a Balanced Body Allegro 1 Tower, which springs are leg springs and which springs are arm springs? Here's what I have. I have the long yellow and purple and I have the shorter yellow and red.Lesley Logan 14:17  Yeah, I love this question. For any Balanced Body piece that's not Contrology, it's always these springs.Brad Crowell 14:33  And if you have no idea what any of this means, I mean. Lesley Logan 14:41  That means you're not doing Pilates. So here you go. So first of all, I just want you to know, on in the Cadillac tower flashcard deck we actually explain which springs to use and where to put them on your Tower or your Cadillac, so that you have the right angles, because the angles make all the difference, okay? So I literally give you the measurements. You can measure to make sure you're using the right hook or the, putting your sliding bar at the correct place. As far as the springs go, the purple springs are going to be your leg springs, and the long yellow I would use those as leg springs if you are like, if the purple springs feel like they're pushing you around, but ideally, you're at the purple springs because we need to help you get up and down off a toilet or off the ground. Okay, so I don't typically use the long yellow unless I have someone who's just really can't do the purple. The short yellow are great for arm springs. The red springs are used for your push through bar. Now, I'm gonna say all that, and I'm gonna say I really love the CenterLine® from Balanced Body. That line has gray springs, and I recommend getting two sets, one set for your rollback bar, one set for your arm spring, and ditch those short yellows. They're really light. So that's my opinion. And you can use our affiliate link to buy anything that you want over at Balanced Body and Contrology and that's what you do. So there you go.Brad Crowell 16:07  All right, now, let's talk about Tom Paladino. Tom was a passionate and positive scalar light researcher dedicated to making the world a better place, inspired by Nikola Tesla and guided by the legacy of Dr. T. Galen Hieronymus, he developed advanced scalar light instruments that enhanced health, balanced energy fields and neutralized over 400,000 pathogens Driven by his commitment to positive change, Tom used scalar energy to improve both the physical and emotional wellbeings of others. Yeah.Lesley Logan 16:37  Yeah. So, you guys, it would, you send, you can still email a picture of you or your loved ones, and then he, if you look in the YouTube video, you can see the tool that he uses behind him, and it, it's really quite, quite crazy, like he could just touch it, and it turned, I, this is where I'm gonna be really honest. This is where, you guys, I discovered that you could just do study hall in high school. I didn't do, I didn't do physics. I, also when quantum was added to the math class, I was out on that. So this is really over, over my educational head. Brad Crowell 17:14  I'm just gonna go with I'm 1000% skeptical on this entire thing. Lesley Logan 17:19  Right. But then I went on his Facebook page to look about his passing, and everybody is like, you healed this sister, you healed this person. Here's the thing, I also think a lot of people could say that about, you know, we've had Louise Swartswalter on and there's a couple other people that. Brad Crowell 17:35  Yeah, I, that doesn't, none of that, like, this to me, I can't understand. I struggle when people tell me that science hasn't caught up to this science yet. Lesley Logan 17:44  That's true. That is (inaudible).Brad Crowell 17:45  So you know, as soon as you go down that road. I'm like, is this a cult? You know? So. Lesley Logan 17:51  He, yeah, I agree. Because also now when people don't believe in science, I get a little skeptical of them, but he's not not believe in science. He just said science doesn't caught up to him. Brad Crowell 17:58  I know. So it's like walking a fine line, and there's definitely some logic behind it. But then there are some complete leaps and bounds of faith that you have to have that, for example, that your aura is associated with a photo. Lesley Logan 18:13  Right. That, that's true. Brad Crowell 18:14  I don't know if I can reconcile that. I don't understand how, I understand how a body, a physical being, has an aura because we emit energy. But when you take a photo of that body, then there's. Lesley Logan 18:25  I know, well I don't. Brad Crowell 18:26  Not sure I'm on the same page there.Lesley Logan 18:27  Isn't the Aborigines who are like against you taking a photo of them because they feel like it takes something of your soul. Here's the thing about faith, according to Tia Levings that's what you need for a lot of things. And so if this sounds cool to you, that's cool to me. If you're skeptical, it's also okay. I think it's okay. I think there's nothing wrong with being skeptical at somebody. But here's the deal, so he says quantum healing is not physical.Brad Crowell 18:27  Well, before we go even into that, I think we can say that he 1000% believed in what he did that was very clear, and he also was.Lesley Logan 18:43  There's something very inspiring about that. Brad Crowell 19:00  And he also was very positive and came across very kind. So I'm intrigued by the claims that he was making, because I felt like, if it's reality, then it's amazing.Lesley Logan 19:12  Right. I agree it would be really, really cool if it works, and also if it and for the people who had to work for like that, I don't want to take that away from them. So at any rate, I had talked to him about how he does his day and what's going on, because he claims, like, I've never been sick. I'm never on any medication. And here's the thing, he didn't die from an illness. He died from a fall. This is the, that's like, the fucking ironic, you know? So that's when you're like, wow, I don't know if it's your turn, I guess, but it's, I find it really fascinating. So yes, you send your, you email them your picture, and you can email, you told me, I can email a picture of Gaia. I didn't, because I knew what we're doing, and I was like, we can save the prayer of something we have to make a decision on. But so many people on that Facebook page have sent pictures and really credit what he does as work that has helped people in their lives or themselves with their health stuff. So I think that's really cool. He also really credits his wife Nita, who, I read her post about their love and oh my god, so beautiful that. Anyways, she mandated his diet, and he didn't overeat, and he exercised daily, and he was happy and doctors said he was also very healthy. So, you know, I will say, I think several times I try to figure out what it was, and I really had a hard time getting out what the scalar light is, scalar energy is. But I'll say, for a lot of these, would you call it, not worldly, but these other type of exercises out there, I still feel like I don't really get great answers out of I don't feel like the definitions are there, and maybe because it's still being defined. So I really can't give a better description, unless you have a better description of what I listened to. Brad Crowell 20:54  No. I mean, I think it's a conversation worth exploring and understand, like, beginning to understand. Lesley Logan 21:00  Well, I kind of, like, if it really does work, it would be really cool if science would just test it out. That could be really cool. And so his family is still doing it, so maybe that could be an option. Brad Crowell 21:09  Yeah. Well, he talked about quantum healing, not being physical healing. And I don't really understand that, but he said the energy from the sun. Lesley Logan 21:16  Well, I think it means he's not touching you, so he's praying over your picture, but he's not physically touching you. You don't have to go to him. That's the thing that's actually really accessible about it, is that you don't have to go to a doctor if you have a rare cancer and you are going to go to the one doctor who does it, you have to fly there. He doesn't have, that's how I took the physical. Brad Crowell 21:35  Yeah, okay, that actually makes sense. But he was talking about the energy, effectively, the machine he built is harnessing energy from the sun, and then he's passing your photo through the fields that are being collected from this machine that he built. And, yeah. Lesley Logan 21:53  Yeah. Watch the YouTube. Go see it. Brad Crowell 21:55  Yeah. Lesley Logan 21:56  He showed me. Brad Crowell 21:57  He did. I saw it. I saw it.Lesley Logan 22:00  Well, what did you like? Let's move on to what you like.Brad Crowell 22:02  I like that you kept asking him questions about him instead of questions about what he does. Lesley Logan 22:08  I just, well, I think also I really like to know the people behind the things. I find that helps me understand especially when I'm like, I couldn't wrap my head around it. And so then I was like, okay, well, I can't wrap my head around it, so let me get to know the person who's behind it, because I also thought Pilates was shit, and then I really liked it, and then people who doubt what Pilates is but they really like me. So I feel like I can't stand here and be too skeptical of something, because there's plenty of people who are very skeptical at what I do, and there's not a lot of scientific studies about what Pilates does because the ones that are out there, they're doing exercises that I don't even teach. So there's actually no scientific study on exactly what I do, saying the claims that I have. So, you know.Brad Crowell 22:50  Yeah, I get that, but there's also a lot of logic involved in Pilates. Look, you asked him about passion. And he said passion is the reason why people get up, why they go to school, why they work, why they have kids, why they get married, etc. And he really encouraged people to believe in God, believe in yourself, to have goals and have objectives. You kind of asked him about skeptics of his work, and he said, with absolute confidence, that you cannot listen to the negativity of the unbelievers effectively. He said he experiences comments like that all the time about his work, but he never lost sleep over them. And I felt like that was actually really. Lesley Logan 22:51  We all learned something from that. Brad Crowell 22:52  That's important. It really is, you know, because there will always be people who are going to derail you or try to derail you, whether or not they're being intentionally malicious or ignorantly maligning, you know, or dis-railing you, there are people who are going to take you off the path, right? And that could be people who love and support you, but are afraid of you, and they're projecting their own fear into this situation, right? And they're telling you to be careful and be cautious and don't do the thing because, or maybe it's like your parents who were like, you want to be an artist, you got to go get a real job, right? So it's 100% what he's saying. I believe that. If you subscribe to what the negative people are going to say, or people who are projecting that fear on to the thing that you're chasing that will derail you totally. Ask any professional athlete, did they have to be single-minded and put the blinders on and not listen to the community they grew up in, or the people that are in their household, or the whatever. I'm sure they would agree with this as well.Lesley Logan 24:39  Yeah, yeah. I think so. I think we get all, take that as a great takeaway. You've got to have passion for what you're doing. Otherwise, like, what are what are we doing?Brad Crowell 24:47  Yeah.Lesley Logan 24:48  And if you don't have passion, because you like, I am a trash collector. I make great money, and it pays my bills, take care of my kids, I have health insurance, I can have this house on my head, then be passionate about your kids, or be passionate about a hobby you have. It's okay to just do a job, but we all have to have some passion in life, otherwise we're kind of just going through the motions. And so if you haven't found something you're passionate about, maybe you're passionate about donating your time to the animals and walking foster care dogs or something like that. I promise you, it gives you a lot of life. And I will say Tom is very vibrant and energetic. He was so passionate. It was both times I've talked to him, because I talked to him before we got him on the pod, I was like, I don't really get this, but he really cares.Brad Crowell 25:28  Yeah. And he said, if you follow your purpose in life, that's it, remove all the extraneous noise. So yeah. In that sense, he definitely took his own advice, and I'm excited. I think that's positive. I think that's helpful.Lesley Logan 25:43  You guys, this is two weeks before he passed away. Like what great advice that we could all learn from even if we don't use scalar energy.Brad Crowell 25:50  Yeah. All right, stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 25:53  All right. So finally, let's talk about those, be it action items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tom Paladino? He said you have to be happy in life. If you want to change your life, you need to take gradual steps, one goal a day, one small goal a day. Imagine if you have only one goal, just one improvement a day, and only do that Monday through Friday, that's 200 if you only do those small improvements Monday through Friday, you're at 200 improvements a year or in business, whether that's in your home life, your family life, or your social life. And he said, imagine 8 billion people experiencing benefits every single day around the world, if we were focusing on progress, on one goal a day. And he said, that's what the world is missing. Now we need to stop fighting each other, and we need to have progress. We need to make progress. Lesley Logan 26:45  I love all of this. I just told our agency members during their breath work session at the end, I was like, you're all doing too much. If you just did one thing each day the rest of the year, that'd be on the day that we're recording this. I mean, 92 things, right? That was October 1st and December 31st, like, 92 things. It's a ton of things. That is so many things. I bet you don't even have 92 things on your to do list. We just cleared it, but you're trying to do 17 things in one day. That's why you're fucking it up. And so I really like that. I like that action item. Brad Crowell 27:14  Yeah, I think that's, an incredible addition to it is, you know, we pile so much on our plates, and we've got like 10 projects we've got to start or do or tackle, or do finish or whatever. And what if we just did one of them, just did one and got to the point where it was finished and we start the next one, we'll probably actually finish all 10 projects faster than if we try to juggle them all at the same time. Lesley Logan 27:39  Is that, are you looking in the mirror when you say that? Brad Crowell 27:42  Yeah, I was looking right past myself.Lesley Logan 27:44  Someone has a Be It Action Item for themselves. Okay, my turn. He said change for the better. In order to make an improvement, we have to change. If things aren't working out, we have to change. Take small steps towards improvement even if it means doing something new or unfamiliar. And we just released an episode literally October 22nd, Lisa Schlosberg said, "You are uncomfortable, not unsafe." So when you are making these different changes and you're doing something that's new or unfamiliar, it can make you uncomfortable, but you're not unsafe. And when you do those things, you change for the better. So I'm like adding a little of this and a little of this, and I'm making it all up. I really love it. Lesley Logan 28:25  So anyways, I think fascinating conversation, very interesting. If you try it out, let us know how it goes. To Tom's family, who's working on it, I'm really sorry, because he was so passionate. What kind of amazing energy and positive energy to be around all the time. That is a loss. And he cared so much for so many. He is praying for so many people. So I know that is never gonna get easy to have said goodbye to him so soon or ever. But Tom, thanks for sharing your energy and passion with us, and I think we all can like have a little takeaway of something you said. So, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 29:00  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:01  Thank you so much for listening to our episodes. We love you. We have something really fun and exciting coming up with the December episode. So stay tuned. Brad might not even know what we're doing, but we're about to record some fun stuff and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 29:15  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 29:17  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this episode, Lesley and Brad recapped their conversation with Tia Levings, the New York Times bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife. They explored Tia's experiences escaping religious fundamentalism, the challenges of reclaiming her identity, and her commitment to raising awareness about Christian Nationalism's impact. Tune in for a powerful conversation about perseverance, healing, voting rights, and moving forward.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Tia's story of breaking free from religious fundamentalism and reclaiming her identity.The dangers of coercive control within certain religious communities.Insights into the struggle and process of escaping controlling ideologies.The importance of protecting individual rights and supporting policies of progress.How intentional change and envisioning a new future play a role in healing.Practical advice on how to vote mindfully and choose candidates based on core values.Episode References/Links:Cambodia February 2025 Retreat - https://crowsnestretreats.comFlashcards Waitlist - opc.me/flashcardwaitlist Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourTia Levings Website - https://tialevings.comTia Levings Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tialevingswriterA Well-Trained Wife! 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I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:52  Welcome back to the be it till you see it. Interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the revelatory convo I have with Tia Levings in our last episode. If you haven't listened to that one, you have missed the fuck out. It's so good. I clearly can be. It's pretty clear and you can tell when I loved an episode. I love this guest so fucking much. I don't want to scare her off, because I want to be her best friend, but in a non-culty way, Tia. But you should listen to it. And you can listen this one first and then listen that one. But it's really great. We do get into politics and you want to know what? I don't care. If you're mad at me for talking about how to save your right to be a human in this country, then I have no apologies, because it is near and dear to my heart that we protect people's rights. I have been to countries where you do not have rights and you have no idea what that looks like and how scary that is. And so, no.Brad Crowell 1:45  Yeah, no, it's been pretty crazy. So yeah, we are going to get into that a little bit. But before we do. Lesley Logan 1:50  We're not telling you how to vote, by the way. We're just telling you the facts that are laid out before you. But Brad's smirking. You're not going to say, you're not going to, you're not going to say anything? Brad Crowell 1:58  No, we're gonna get into it later. So. Lesley Logan 2:00  All right, well, first, it is, today is October 31st 2024, it is Halloween. You are probably familiar with it, but there are some interesting history behind I'm sure there's some really good history. Brad Crowell 2:11  Pagan and then Catholics were like, we hate pagan. So we're gonna make a (inaudible)Lesley Logan 2:16  Like, how did we get her recap on Halloween? It's a (inaudible) culture and anyways, anyways, I swear, I swear to you, when I was like, team, I want this out before the election. This was the only day. But we thought we'd share something actually really cool for you, and hope this doesn't get you teepeed or is that what you call it when they throw toilet paper on your house? Brad Crowell 2:36  Yeah, that's what they call. That's what they say. Lesley Logan 2:39  That's what they call. I'm sure they call it something else now. I'm sure it's called like, skippity or something. We thought we'd share about a really fun alternative to giving candy to kids called books for treats. So today is Books For Treats Day. Books For Treats Day was born from the belief that books are more valuable treat than candy on Halloween. Books are more beneficial to children than candies because they nourish the mind and equip the child to understand life better. Some naysayers tell Rebecca that she is stealing the fun of Halloween and ruining kids' Halloween. Rebecca clearly created. Brad Crowell 3:06  She created this day. I forgot to say that part. Lesley Logan 3:08  Yeah. We're gonna get to her in a second. In fact, the contrary is true. Kids love books. Since they get to choose their book from the age appropriate box, they're excited to have a treat that lasts more than a few seconds. I commonly hear we made sure to come to the book lady's house. Rebecca Morgan is the author of 25 books, two of which have sold over 200,000 each. She's appeared on Oprah, 60 Minutes, NPR, USA Today and international media. She's a speaker and management consultant and runs three businesses and this nonprofit. Learn more about Books For Treats at booksfortreats.org. We should just have her on the show. And also, I forget, but it's, sometime in this month, it might have been last Friday, we're recording this in the past for the future, but it is like National Reading Day or something like that. And we were going, we actually, from a different Rebecca as a guest, started donating to the Little Readers Big Change organization to help get books into K through 12 schools that have low funding. And so I'm all about this. If you get teepeed, I'm sorry. But also, like, put some (inaudible). Brad Crowell 4:09  I mean, you will, you'll get teepeed by, like, the 13-year-olds who are like, ew books. Lesley Logan 4:14  But you want to know something? You might, oh, my God, that you might live in a state where some of those books have been not accessible at their school and you could be that book lady. We're going to that book lady's house. We'll get the other books. Anyways, we just got back from Cambodia retreat. Brad Crowell 4:28  We did. We just spent 10 days in Cambodia with the largest group we've ever taken. It was amazing. Lesley Logan 4:34  The retreats only, like six days, guys. We just were there for. Brad Crowell 4:37  Yeah, we get there early so that we could prep everything and make sure everything is going to go smoothly. And then after that, we took a little breather. We actually went to Thailand. And we explored parts of Thailand that we'd never been to. Lesley Logan 4:48  We went to Northern, I know it sounds like, oh, a beach. And I was like, opposite. Brad Crowell 4:52  Jungle. Lesley Logan 4:52  Lots of jungle, lots of really cool temples. Just, so cool.  Brad Crowell 4:56  Yeah. If you want to see something that is mind blowingly cool, go onto Google and search for northern Thailand, the White Temple. Lesley Logan 5:05  It looks like it should have a movie around it with magic. Brad Crowell 5:09  They have a White Temple, a Black Temple, Blue Temple, and I think there's a Red Temple, too. Anyway, it really is unbelievable. It's like this massive art piece. It's incredible. Like, jaw-droppingly cool. It's like, when I heard about it and I saw the photos, was like, we gotta go. Lesley Logan 5:24  I understand that we are talking about a temple on this episode, but it's a different kind of temple. And we, like you said, look at it for the art in it and the history of it, and it's mind blowing. Brad Crowell 5:34  Well, it was created by an artist. Lesley Logan 5:35  Yeah, it's beautiful. So come to February's retreat, you won't see the White Temple, Black Temple or Blue Temple, but you will see the eighth wonder of the world. Brad Crowell 5:42  You will see the eighth wonder of the world, which is another temple. It's actually the largest religious structure in the entire planet. How about that? Lesley Logan 5:51  You wanna know why you shouldn't say no to Cambodia? Because when you come to Cambodia, you will learn about the temples, and you'll see some were Hindu, and then some were Buddhist, and then some were Hindu and some were Buddhist. Now they just celebrate all of it. So they have a lot of fucking holidays. Brad Crowell 6:03  Yeah, that's a lot of holidays. Lesley Logan 6:03  But talk about this compromise. They didn't go, oh, you all have to be Buddhist now. They are a Buddhist, Hindu. Brad Crowell 6:08  Well, they did that a bunch of times. Yeah, they did that. They did war back and forth. And, different kings would change different things. Lesley Logan 6:14  And then they just combined them all. Brad Crowell 6:15  Yes. It's kind of a mash up now. Lesley Logan 6:16  Yeah, okay, I am going to be. Brad Crowell 6:18  Oh, go to crowsnestretreats.com to join us, crowsnestretreats.com. And then, now that we're back. Lesley Logan 6:24  We're really diving in. My team is making sure I stay on the fucking track with this last deck. Brad Crowell 6:32  We are.Lesley Logan 6:32  We are making sure that I do not go two months past schedule for the fifth time I'm doing it already. Right now, on this moment, I should have already written 50 cards and 50 blogs. Brad Crowell 6:43  Great. Lesley Logan 6:43  That's the goal. By this, by the time this drops, maybe more. And there's 83 to go. 83 total. So the accessories deck is going to have the two by four, sandbag, toe corrector. Brad Crowell 6:55  If you're wondering what an accessories deck is, this is Pilates flash cards we've been doing. Lesley Logan 6:59  Yeah. Thanks for making it, you know, specific. Brad Crowell 7:01  Yeah, we got the sixth deck in the series, the accessories deck. So it's all the other things. And here's the thing, I get so many questions about, should I, which Reformer should I buy that could fit under a couch? You guys, there are so many pieces of Pilates, apparati, apparatus, apparatuses that you that don't take much space and you can make it home. And I bet you can say all three of those, because I just watched a whole reel about a guy talking about how platypus has four different plurals. I'm pretty sure it's just apparatuses. (inaudible) A plural of the word apparatus can either be apparatus or apparatuses. Lesley Logan 7:37  So it has two, I think apparatus. Anyways. Brad Crowell 7:40  I liked apparati, though. Lesley Logan 7:41  I know apparati, it's like a, I don't know it's a cacti, at any rate, you guys, my goal is that more than half of this deck is hand-makeable. Brad Crowell 7:50  Hand-makeable. You mean the the equipment being used in the deck? Yep. Lesley Logan 7:56  Thank you again. He's just coming in here to translate what I'm saying, guys. We were on vacation and so I'm clearly already there the time that we're recording this. Okay, Brad, do you have any Accelerators left of this year? Brad Crowell 8:10  Yes, yes. Actually, if you are a fitness business owner and you are stuck with money income, you keep hitting the same marks every year. You're not growing the way that you need to grow to be able to actually pay yourself the money that you want to make, or put money aside because you want to retire one day, then you should come join me on this free webinar. It's called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator, and in there, Lesley and I have been coaching for years and years and years, and I'm going to be covering the three biggest secrets that we have learned, we have gleaned, we have come alongside these businesses to go through the trenches of, how do we make adjustments with them? Create that plan with them that they can go change their lives. And we're going to share those. I am going to share those three big secrets with you on this webinar. It is totally free, so you should absolutely join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And sign up. Lesley Logan 9:07  And finally, we are, as you can hear, are clearly not staying in Vegas for very long. Because not only am I going to LA but then we're gonna come back and a few days later, after Thanksgiving, specifically, which my dad is now trying to get us snow camping on so we gotta figure that out. Brad Crowell 9:20  We'll see. Lesley Logan 9:21  He (inaudible) guys. So we can talk about it there. But we are going on tour, and you can buy tickets already. So. Brad Crowell 9:26  Yeah, we're hitting the road again, y'all.Lesley Logan 9:27  I'm being it till you see it on these tour tickets. They are out now. Brad Crowell 9:30  I'm so excited. Oh yeah, we, the tickets opened up in beginning of October. So, you know, things have been, uh, cruising here, but we are coming to 23 different cities. We're going to be doing the South, I guess southern central I don't know we're going to take Route 40 across. So if you're anywhere near Route 40, when we hit Greensboro, North Carolina, we're to go all the way up to Maine and then down to Miami, and then back through Texas, hitting Phoenix, all the way back home. So if any of that sounds anywhere remotely close to where you're going to be for the holidays, or any time of December, or if you live near there, come hang out with us. Lesley Logan 10:00  It is so much fun. Brad Crowell 10:01  It's a blast. It's amazing.Lesley Logan 10:03  It's so much fun. Balanced Body is sponsoring us again. We'll have Contrology equipment for you to try. There's prizes, lots of prizes. So it's gonna be really, really grand. Brad Crowell 10:12  Lots of swag. Plus, if you're a teacher, you can get CECs on the workshops. So, anyways. Lesley Logan 10:12  And the workshops are for every level. You don't have to be a teacher. Brad Crowell 10:14  You don't have to be a teacher but if you need that stuff we're working that it in. Lesley Logan 10:22  I've just created a new workshop, I've created a new workshop for this tour. And the working title is rolling with the mat homies. So mat is in parentheses because it's all about the transitions, and I think it might be too cute, and so I told Meredith to fix it. (inaudible) Well, I really like it. It's a working title.Brad Crowell 10:39  It is a working title. Well anyway, go to opc.me/tour opc.me/tour and join us while we are on the road. We really do want to hang and also introduce our pups to you. They love meeting you, too. So before we actually dive in here, I swear we are going to talk about Tia Levings and we are going to talk about.Lesley Logan 11:00  (inaudible) But we have a question. Brad Crowell 11:01  Well, she said a, she said a word that I thought was really intriguing. She said she escaped. Okay, so if that is something that is intriguing to you, stick around. We're going to talk about her. But first we got this audience question. So Donna Lombardo on IG asked, Hey, I just ordered a workshop from OPC, which is onlinepilatesclasses.com and I would like to do the teaser, but I'm having a hard time finding this the correct place on my sitz bones to do the teaser. Where should I start?Lesley Logan 11:28  Yeah, so, Donna, you should really focus on your rolling like a ball, because the teaser is the same position on the sitz bones. It's actually behind the sitz bones as you're rolling like a ball. And in fact, you can roll like a ball and land in a teaser. And if you can't, if you lose your legs, or you fall back, or it just looks like (inaudible), is what Jake Bryant would say, (inaudible). So it looks like that. Brad Crowell 11:51  It is what he used to say. Lesley Logan 11:51  He used to say that a lot of times to me. Then you're in the wrong spot, and also you're not ready for it yet. So rolling like a ball is your friend. Double Leg Stretch is your friend because it's going to help you learn how to reach your arms and legs away from your center. And I also would recommend your single leg kick and double leg kick on the mat, because it's going to stretch your hip flexors out and create more strength in your hamstrings and your butt. Basically, the rest of the mat is going to be your friend. And anything that seems harder than teaser, or as hard as teaser, you're just going to pull out, so if you have the flashcard deck, you'll just pull out all the ones that look like a teaser and are towards the end. Pull them out you're not ready for them yet. And then also, you better love your roll up. And if your legs are coming up in your roll up or you come up like a vampire. Brad Crowell 12:36  Your roll up is critical. Lesley Logan 12:38  And if you're an OPC member, then you can actually show me what your version of the teaser is, and I can and the other teachers can provide some support around how close you are, how far away you are. Sometimes we're just talking about different exercises altogether. So maybe this is not even what you're asking for. It's the best way for us to give personalized and tailored feedback, because I can't give you more than this without seeing you, and so it's general, but if I saw you and I could see, oh, the reason why you can't find this by your sitz bones is because your lower back is tight. That's a whole different thing, versus oh, your core is weak, right? Or it's both. Anyways, so go to (inaudible) opc.me/40, opc.me/40 will get you 40 days of OPC for $40 and during that time, you can submit a video of you doing the teaser. Brad Crowell 13:24  Yeah, come join us. Lesley Logan 13:25  Send your questions in I love answering them. We want, doesn't have to be Pilates questions or business questions. They can be life questions (inaudible and I have great advice. Brad Crowell 13:34  Yeah, we do. That's true. Just text us at 310-905-5534, or hit us up on the Instagram or leave a YouTube comment or whatever. You know, just reach out. We will pretty much get it all. Yeah. So great question. Donna, thanks for asking that. Stick around. We are gonna dig into Tia Levings and how she escaped from Christian fundamentalism when we get back. Brad Crowell 13:58  Okay, welcome back. Now, let's talk about Tia Levings. Tia Levings is a New York Times bestselling author of A Well-Trained Wife. It is her memoir of escaping from Christian patriarchy and fundamentalism. TiA is dedicated to shedding light on the impacts of religious fundamentalism and helping others break free from it and its political agenda through her social media platform and her books, she's actually writing another book right now on how she, once she escaped, how did she change? Because it took her 10 years.Lesley Logan 14:30  I know, and I think it's so good for the people who've like, it's a special book for people who've gone through that. Brad Crowell 14:36  Yeah, it took her 10 years to be able to even share her story. Like, it was fascinating. She said that she.Lesley Logan 14:41  Tried to write it in different ways. Brad Crowell 14:42  Yeah, she wrote it as a novel first, and then she wrote it under a different name, and she said it was all wrong. And then finally, through many years of therapy and life and raising kids and stuff, she was like, I gotta tell it as me. Lesley Logan 14:53  I don't remember if it was in our interview, but I listened to her on an interview where she said she has healed so much from it. When she did her audio of her own book, she was able to do it. It did not affect her in that way. But the people in the sound booth were hearing it for the first time, and they were in tears, because they, it's it's dark, it's really intense, you guys.Brad Crowell 15:14  I mean, why don't you give us just a little bit of a synopsis of what this book is, A Well-Trained Wife and like, what her background is here, because I think that will be impactful. Lesley Logan 15:23  Her parents were not super religious. And I wanted to say it before I get into this, somebody is gonna say not all Christians, just like someone post something like, not all men, guess what? Then stand the fuck up and say, hey, I'm not like that, and that's wrong. You gotta call this stuff out, otherwise you get lumped into it. So I'm just going to say that, because you're correct. It's not all Christians. This is a special type of it. However. Brad Crowell 15:45  She mentioned that, in fact, on the interview, and she said, yeah, story of my life, that it's not all Christians, but somehow I was involved in this (inaudible) fundamentals.Lesley Logan 15:55  She was also involved in multiple churches. So here's the other thing. So she wasn't raised in a church in her early childhood. But they moved to Florida, and her parents joined a church, and one of those big mega churches, because it was like something to make friends. I know a lot of my friends were like, oh, I think I'm gonna go to church. My kids have this moral upbringing. The problem is, when she went there, the way that she interpreted the rapture is like she was going to be left behind. And so she had this, we talked about this with her sister, where she was in her life, and the way that she was born into this world, she took it as truly real, and she had this such a fear that she was going to be left behind and someone was going to die, and all these things. And so she was having stomach ache, but she just kept forcing herself to go. And then also all of her friends were like, oh, you shouldn't date. It's such, it's gonna break your heart. And by the way, my parents were never this strict, but they definitely dabbled in like, oh, there's some, really, some Christian churches. They pick the husbands for them. And I'm like, that's an arranged marriage. That's not okay with me. But this happens more than you think. So anyways, she marries a man who is not awesome and but she is marrying a Christian man, and she's doing the thing that she's supposed to do because a church told her to her job is to make babies.Brad Crowell 17:09  And he's very controlling. Lesley Logan 17:10  And he's very controlling, and he's very abusive. And when she talks about the abuse she has, it is when they go from different church to different church that abuse turns into wife spanking. They literally call it that. It is, so it's basically a different word for abuse. You're abusing your wife. And as they switch from church to church, they go into a Calvinist Church, which is super dark, and they believe the kids are born with sin. And so anyways, there is a time when another wife, kind of like, breaks the fourth wall and is like, do not go off the grid because they were about to switch churches and go or move towns, which would mean they would go to a different church with the same (inaudible).Brad Crowell 17:45  This is after she was married, right? So she's married, she's in this really bad relationship, and the guys like, we're moving off the grid. We're getting out of here.Lesley Logan 17:52  Yeah. So so it slowly went that way after one church, the next church, and the more controlling the churches were, the more he actually did well. But she obviously was bearing the brunt of it. Her kids were bearing the brunt of it. There was abuse in the household, and you'll have to read the book to hear kind of why she left, and how she left, but she, but it is, I hope they make a movie about it, because it is truly empowering for those women that you know who are what people don't understand is coercive control and being abused doesn't happen overnight. It happens slowly, and there's a lot to lose because you're isolated, and the more isolated you are, the harder it is. And the other thing is, is that you start to then feel embarrassed, because multiple times, her parents are like, are you sure you want to do this? Are you sure you want to do this? And like, soBrad Crowell 18:39  Then you can't go back or you feel like you can't go back. And like. Lesley Logan 18:42  Yes, and she was afraid she'd lose her kids because she has no job, because the women in these religions do not have jobs, so they have no money, so they can't. Brad Crowell 18:51  They have no agency. Lesley Logan 18:52  They have no agency. You are correct. Brad Crowell 18:53  They're like, often not educated intentionally. They are just taught to conform and control. Lesley Logan 18:59  Yes and she went for help multiple times, and the church, the different churches that she went to, didn't help her, didn't help her. So I think if you are listeners, and you're having a hard time that we are using the word Christian, and you're like, that's not my, that's not what I know. Brad Crowell 19:15  That's not what I know.Lesley Logan 19:15  That's not what he knew.Brad Crowell 19:17  I mean, I grew up, I grew up in a church, and my church was pretty conservative. It was like a very intellectual style church, and then I ended up going to a very, very conservative 1950-style Bible college, you know where you weren't allowed to hold hand on campus unless you were engaged. You know, it was some, it was some really, really crazy rules that didn't make any sense. Lesley Logan 19:37  And that, that school is producing a lot of this, and.Brad Crowell 19:43  I mean, especially, like a Trad wife thing, or you know, they used to jokingly call my school, the letters are LBC, like, like, Bible the bridal college. It was Bible college, but they used to call bridal college.Lesley Logan 19:53  I went to a Christian university, and everyone said, my dad said do not go here for your MRS degree It's too expensive. Brad Crowell 19:59  That's right. Lesley Logan 19:59  That's what my dad said to me. So I was intentional and not dating and not getting married, but so many of my friends that was what they wanted, because that's what they had been raised with, and that's what they thought. And here's the thing, if that's what you want, there is nothing wrong with that. But where things get wrong is and what what she experiences when there's abuse, when you are affecting children negatively when you are in this control place and and then you are trying to then control those lives around you who do not live this way. That's where it goes wrong. Yeah? It's not like they're just on their plot of land living their purity life.Brad Crowell 20:34  Yeah, I think that's actually the thing that's kind of insane. Is like Christianity, the way I experienced it, and the way that I grew up, it was like, of course, there's missionaries and we're spreading the Good News and all that kind of a thing. That's not what this you know, that's still part of it. But this is about control. I also about taking over. Lesley Logan 20:51  I think Tia and I also talked about this. When I went to church, you didn't know how people voted in your church. No one talked about that. My high school church was pretty conservative. They didn't preach from the pulpit. It was very, obviously, there were certain topics that people knew how people were voting. But Brene Brown said in one of her books, might have been Rising Strong or something about leaders. She said in the 70s, 70% of people lived in a community that voted differently than them. And today, well today, 10 years ago, 10 years ago, 70% of people lived where they voted the same. And so now the problem is, is that now, because you live in an environment where everyone's voting, similarly, it's also very visible because of the internet, yes, your fear of being kicked out of the community is so real because you want to belong. Brad Crowell 21:39  That's right. Lesley Logan 21:39  And so that is kind of what (inaudible).Brad Crowell 21:29  I mean we're a tribal, we're tribal species. Lesley Logan 21:38  Of course. That's how being able to tell stories and work together is kind of why we got here. We probably should talk about her talking points. Brad Crowell 21:49  I know. We've, we definitely went down a tangent there. I appreciate you. Lesley Logan 21:53  I really hope you all read her book and if you want to listen to it on tape. It is a great listen. It is hard. I strongly encourage you if you are like this is not how I know church to be, then I also encourage you, because it's important to know what other people are going through, because you also need to understand, why are they voting that way? Yeah, why are they not scared about these things? Because that's how they're living, and they want us all to live like it. So I was, I think I asked her a question, and her response was, that's faith. And I was like, oh my God, so be it till you see it is faith, guys. And one of the things that like blew my mind when I read her book is that you could be it till you see it in a way that affects you. But I had this in relation today.Brad Crowell 22:31  I need you to expound on that. Be it till you see it in a way that.Lesley Logan 22:34  Is affecting you.Brad Crowell 22:35  Negatively affects you. So, it is possible to do that be it till you see it in a way that negative (inaudible).Lesley Logan 22:40  And here's, here's what I have percolated on census interview, and she said you're supposed to become what they want you to be. So it's not being until you see it. It's being it till they see it in you, until you're doing what they want. So it's really not, it's still not a true be it because you are conforming to what they want and you're being it till they see it. That's what it really is. You're doing all the things to get their approval, to stay in the community, or to not get beat by the husband, or be terrible to get kicked out. She even talks about this time when she found this internet group, and then she almost got kicked out of that internet group because they were kind of like talking about things that were like, not super purity, whatever their religion was at the time. So anyways, faith is how these things happen. You're having faith. Brad Crowell 23:25  And I think we need to clarify that. Lesley Logan 23:27  Well, why don't you? Brad Crowell 23:28  Okay, so faith is the idea that you can become this thing, right? That this thing can happen for you down the road. What she's talking about there is that when you have a religious formula that promises rewards, like prosperity or love or blessings or happiness, if you do x, y and z, then why would you not want to do x, y and z? Because you want to stay in the community. Your family is there, your friends are there. And so of course, that's the entire goal is then okay, if I do this, then these other things will happen, and that will be this high level reward of prosperity and love. I mean, there's a whole new offshoot of Christianity that is literally, like, all they talk about is making money. Lesley Logan 24:12  Oh yeah.Brad Crowell 24:12  Yeah. It's crazy. Minion Jesus. It's like a whole fucking thing. It's fascinating. Lesley Logan 24:16  It's very, I know it's a bit much, it's a derogatory name, so please don't get mad at me. But the Moonies have broken up, and the second son of the Moonies guy, their whole Christianity is built on guns and the Second Amendment, and so he's the Third Coming of Christ, or something like that. There is a lot of different ones out there guys. But she said fear of rejection and punishment drove her to fake it till I make it, to avoid hell, to void rejection and unhappiness, because that's what they promised her. They promised her, if you follow all these things, you will feel this way.Brad Crowell 24:46  Yeah, no, well, not that you'll feel this way, but that you will avoid these things. Yeah. Lesley Logan 24:50  Some of us can think back into our youth to kind of go, oh man. When I was in my 20s, I was such a free spirit. I was such these things to, like, kind of find themselves again, right? She can't do that. She can't look at her 20-something self or her 30-something (inaudible) right because they, she actually had to grieve those parts of her past that is gone. She doesn't get those back. She doesn't get those years back. She can't change that. So she had to have a new vision for what is, who's Tia at 50? And that you guys, is being until you see it. So if you are someone like Tia who has just such a childhood or such an event in your early youth, like adulthood, that you can't really use that time to figure out what did make me happy? Like, I hate the question, like, oh, were you super like this when you were a kid and that's why you're a Pilates instructor? No, I wasn't. She can't, being it until you see it is like, what, who do I want to be? What could I be? And you have to see some of those things to believe those things. So she was not going to let them get her present or her future, because that was the only thing she had control over. And I find that so cool, whether or not you had her life experience right now, you guys, you have the control over the present and the future, like the choices you're gonna make. Obviously don't have control of, like, what could happen in those things. But like, what time you want to wake up? Where do you want to go? What do you want to wear? What do you want to listen to? What are you putting in your ears? You have control of those things. So that is part of being it, till you see it. Brad Crowell 26:10  Here's what I really loved, and this is where I'm going to go a little bit into politics y'all, which we don't do very often here on this pod. I'm sure you understand. If you're a longtime listener. You know us. You know where we stand. I want to talk about this here because this is a very scary concept. Okay, what you two were talking about was, what if our convicted felon of a candidate for the Republican Party, what if he gets into office? That's going to be really scary. But what if he doesn't get into office? What is actually going to happen? It's not like this movement is just gonna go away. So how are they doing that? And what she did is she broke down how there's a bunch of conservative organizations who effectively banded together. There's over 100 of them, right? And they created this program called Project 2025, and before that, they were very connected to Jerry Falwell. And before Jerry Falwell came out and said, hey, we should be supporting Trump. The Republican Party was not interested in supporting Trump. They were like, we're not with this guy. He's a crazy person. But because of the religious fundamental movements that are really underpinning a lot of the decision making now in the Republican Party, they said, no, no, we got to get behind Trump. And what they did is they basically created someone who could be swapped out. So if it's not Trump, it could be somebody else. It doesn't matter.Lesley Logan 27:28  Oh, (inaudible) and I got to show you a reel I just saw. I'll show it to you later. Brad Crowell 27:31  Yeah. So the point is that if he fails to be elected president, it doesn't mean that this movement goes away, okay, and so you two were then talking about, what do we do, and how do you move forward with this? And Tia said she chooses light, she chooses life, she chooses energy, she chooses progress. So she was specifically talking about voting, and she said the most important thing is that we have the right to vote and we can cast the vote. She was not in a place where she could vote. Lesley Logan 27:59  No. She was in this country and was not allowed to vote. Brad Crowell 28:01  She was not allowed to vote. Okay? And so I'm today, right now, I'm wearing a hat that's, it says VSA on it, VSA, which stands for Vote Save America, and it's an organization that we would encourage you to go check out. They help you volunteer, donate, or even run for office, or just understand, are you even a registered voter? They can help you through all those things, and they're an amazing organization. Vote save America. Go check that out. But she said, if there's someone who is going to be putting policy in place that could restrict my vote, I'm voting for the other guy because the other guy is going to be helping me be able to vote. Lesley Logan 28:34  And I think that's really important, no matter how you label yourself in politics in this particular upcoming election, and maybe the next one too. We need to be voting for the people who have the love and the light and the energy to provide more rights for people, not take them away. That's the easiest way to distill who am I voting for in every single whether it's a judge or a local school board or whatever it's like, who is wanting to support as many lives as possible, and who wants to support less people? Brad Crowell 29:05  She said something else, which I thought was really interesting. She's like we as a society have moved through and past puritanical times, but that's what she was basically living under, right? Here in the United States today, right now. And the point is, this is still there, and the Christian Nationalist Movement that is, the fundamentalist movements that she was part of, could be lumped under that movement. They're still making decisions, and they're still trying to expand and control, right? So when we are voting, we need to be voting people into power who are going to be protecting people, right? Not people into power who are going to be taking rights away for people. Lesley Logan 29:43  And voting for people who we might not agree with on everything but we can argue with because we have the right to that is a right that is not shared in most countries, to be able to yell at your politician and go, you're not doing what I want. That is a very special thing we have here. So Jane Bona says you vote for the person you can argue with. Brad Crowell 29:59  I was just thinking about her. Lesley Logan 30:00  Yeah. So in Shakespearean times, when they wrote those plays, the Puritans were really big in power, and they would control a theater, and certain plays would not be allowed on the stage, and no woman could write and no woman could act in them even though the characters were women, they had the men dressed as women, because it would have been too ridiculous outside of their religion. That's what it is. That's what's going on. You won't even have art. It doesn't exist. Anyways, we've got to get to the Be It Action Items.Brad Crowell 30:27  Yeah. So she said I choose to go forward. And she expressed support for political ideologies and groups that protect progress, even if she doesn't agree with them entirely. Okay? So you know that is what we would put this in front of you and argue the same thing. I don't remember why or when it became this idea that we have to agree with our political candidates 100% of the time for us to vote for them? That is, that is like only a new thing. That was never the case, even 10 years ago.Lesley Logan 30:57  My parents always bitched about whatever President was in office and they voted for him. Brad Crowell 31:01  Right. Yeah, exactly. And somehow we have this idea that, like, oh, there's this one thing I don't agree with. Well, what about the other 99 things? Do you agree with those? So anyway, yeah, all right. Lesley Logan 31:13  We'll, beat this in. Brad Crowell 31:14  Yeah. Lesley Logan 31:15  We're linking to everything. I'm sure we did it on the other episode on Project 2025, if you come at me and say he said he's not with that, I'm gonna tell you right now, he flew on the plane with him after he said that. He hung out with him after he said that, do not come at me with that, because it's called logic. And 200 people who were part of his office before were part of writing that. Brad Crowell 31:34  So yeah, I mean, like a large part of his staff were the people who then went on to write project 2025 so of course, he's aware. Lesley Logan 31:41  Let's get to some positive Brad Crowell 31:42  All right. Let's move on. Let's move on. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're actually gonna dig into the Be It Action Items that we took away from Tia, where she had some incredible insight that's for each and every one of us. So we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 31:54  All right. Welcome back. Finally. Let's talk about those, Be It Action Items. I'll get myself off my high horse here, and we'll talk about Tia Levings and the action items that she said during the interview last week or earliest week, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tia Levings? She sai hey, spend time with yo self.Lesley Logan 32:18  She went on a freaking slow cruise to Europe. Brad Crowell 32:21  By herself. Lesley Logan 32:22  Yeah, it takes like, six or eight weeks.Brad Crowell 32:24  That's pretty crazy. I know that's kind of amazing.Lesley Logan 32:27  I want to, do I want to do that? I don't. I love being by myself. Do I want to be by myself that much? I don't know, but I agree with this. I love when you go out. I'm like, I have all (inaudible). What am I gonna do? It's such a good way to, kind of, like, understand what you need and what's going on. I love it. Brad Crowell 32:41  Yeah, she talked about just tuning out the noise, learning to sit in silence. I can tell you, I always find myself walking around listening to something. I'm always listening to something. It's very rare that I actually have just chill time. I'm always entertaining myself in some way. She pays attention to her nerves and bodily sensations, honoring them, even if she can't fully understand them or express them yet. So when you have a little bit of quiet time, that can be really powerful.Lesley Logan 33:09  Yeah, I agree. And it's also kind of the only way to hear it, you gotta hear it, you know? All right, my biggest takeaway is kind of, I mean, like she'd spend time with yourself, and then she said, spend a lot of time envisioning. She doesn't believe you can become something without intention unless you can see it. For her, she needs to be able to see it using practice like vision boarding and journaling to the person she wants to become. So she's big on vision boarding. And she also has a win board, and I love that. You guys have to have two boards because you can put it over here. I'm like, oh, that is way too much fun. I think it's so cool. Brad Crowell 33:41  I love the wins board because it allows you to remember, if you're in the moment of beating yourself up, which we all go through, you know, being able to turn around and see the wins board and be like, oh, yeah. But I, I did do that. And that happened, and this happened. Lesley Logan 33:55  I mean, you guys, she practiced many times in the mirror being able to speak or smile like a normal person would, because she didn't spend a lot of time with people outside of her church. There's just different nuances to how life is. Brad Crowell 34:09  She said she couldn't even be on the phone without stuttering the whole time. And she said being able to even do the interview that you two had is like a dramatic difference from where she was.Lesley Logan 34:20  Yeah. And she's doing some great things. She's really worth following on Instagram. I highly recommend it. I really recommend this book. I recommend anyone who is doubtful that this stuff really exists, it's, it does, and so reading other people's stories kind of, to me, though, it's why I like books and I like travel. It allows you to see how other people are living, and one, recognize how much you do have. Two, you can learn a lot about what you want and don't want, and that is important. You know, we take things for granted.Brad Crowell 34:48  I was literally just gonna say, I want you to know how much we appreciate you, yeah, being here with us on this pod, and we genuinely care about you, your well being and your future. We care about all of our future.Lesley Logan 35:01  So if you disagree, if you disagree with some of us on some of these points, that's okay, because we still love you, because just like we don't have to agree with every 100% of the people we're voting for, we don't have to agree with everything that you are or say to still love you and still want to support you and your journey. Trust us. We've got family members who I'm a little bit like, hmm, we don't agree on these things, but I still love you and I still want the best for you, and we will constantly put out content here to support you and everything you want to be it until you see it. Thank you so much. Brad Crowell 35:29  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 35:31  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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What does it really mean to brand your higher self? Lesley and Brad dive into the key insights from the conversation with branding expert Nadine Hanafi. Discover how branding goes far beyond just fonts and colors, and learn how Nadine's actionable advice on personal branding can elevate your business. Tune in to find out how to present your higher self and build a brand that truly aligns with your energy and message.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Nadine's expertise in helping small business owners build standout brands.How energy and authenticity create a memorable personal brand.The importance of positioning yourself as an expert through branding.How to brand your higher self and elevate your business presence.Why a professional photo shoot can take your branding to the next level.Episode References/Links:Digital Brand KitNadine Hanafi's InstagramCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC Flashcard WaitlistPilates Studio Growth AcceleratorOPC Winter TourBalanced Body Pilates EquipmentGirl Squad Media Website If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  You have a brand, even if you don't realize it, right? You know, you are your brand. And then you can begin to define these things and hone that stuff, and make adjustments to it. But it already exists, and now we just have to bring it out.Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the refining convo I have with Nadine Hanafi in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, go listen to it and come back and listen to this one, or listen to this one and let your podcast just play through the previous one. It's all amazing. Lesley Logan 1:10  Before we get into it, today is September 26th 2024 and it's Alpaca Day. About this day, Alpaca Day is observed on September 26th each year in the USA. Alpacas are cute, fuzzy animals that have been of help to human beings and agriculture for a super long time. These animals have unique personalities and are highly sensitive to their environment, and are most timid in temperament. Oh, okay, are these the spitters?Brad Crowell 1:33  They usually I think it's camels that spit or llamas. No, I think it's the Lesley Logan 1:39  Can you look this up? Because I swear, okay, so let me finish it, because people are waiting for you, and I'll finish it. Brad Crowell 1:45  Okay, so I literally got do Al, and then Google finished alpaca spit. So yes, they do. Lesley Logan 1:51  Yeah, I thought so. I thought I saw Brad Crowell 1:52  Not a cause for concern, but yes it's (inaudible).Lesley Logan 1:55  I saw a reel where a woman looked like she's trying to kiss the alpaca. And this is why I asked.Brad Crowell 1:59  Oh, I thought that was a llama. Lesley Logan 2:00  No, no, it was an alpaca. It was the hair and you remember that, and it like literally spit in her face, yeah, no, that was an alpaca. The llama looks like what's on my arm. So anyways, Alpaca Day raises awareness about the need for conservation of alpacas and their habitats. Human activities have affected alpacas, and like other animals, they too are struggling with the increasing human interference in their daily lives. Find out what you can do to conserve alpacas on Alpaca Day. I don't know where you go for that, so I don't know how to help you understand how you can conserve land for alpacas this day just tells you it is it. But I've also never seen alpacas in the wild, so I'm very curious, like, where in the USA alpacas are in the wild?Brad Crowell 2:39  Yeah, I don't know that. Lesley Logan 2:41  We can't help you there. Brad Crowell 2:42  So you can donate through the National Alpaca Foundation, or there are also local charities or hospitals. There's a Alpaca Research Foundation, A.R.F. or ARF for short, there is the Windrush. Donate to Windrush Alpacas.Lesley Logan 2:43  If you know where I can see alpacas in the wild I'm in. I want to know. Brad Crowell 3:02  We're gonna find out. Lesley Logan 3:03  But also, when we were on winter tour last year, we got to meet Andres the llama, and we also met some alpacas. And the alpacas were a little more timid than Andre. Andre? Andres? I think it was Andre. Brad Crowell 3:16  Andre. There are no known wild alpacas anymore. They are all domesticated farm animals now.Lesley Logan 3:21  Okay, well, that's because we took their fucking land. So.Brad Crowell 3:25  It's true. Lesley Logan 3:26  Like we did for many people, places and things, we got to be better everyone. You got to do better things. So okay, so thank you for that information. Bet you didn't know you would learn about alpacas today. Was it on your bingo card? If it was, let us know. Lesley Logan 3:39  We are literally leaving in four days before Cambodia, and unless you signed up, you're not invited. Holy alpacas, there won't be any in Cambodia. Because it's so, so sold out, and so you need to sign up for the February one, where we still have time to put you in there. Brad Crowell 3:56  That's right. Lesley Logan 3:56  Also, there's still plenty of time to buy a flight. This is kind of about when you'd buy a flight, it's like three months before, four tops, anything more than that, it's not a good deal. So you want to go to crowsnestretreats.com I have been looking at all these different temple pictures, like, just getting excited for what we're doing. And you guys, we've gone so many times, and it never gets old. Brad Crowell 4:15  Never gets old. Lesley Logan 4:15  It never gets old. It's so much fun. Brad Crowell 4:18  Mind blowing. Lesley Logan 4:18  And we have several people coming for the second time. So we've had multiple people do this, but it just keeps happening. And so we want you to come. So go to crowsnestretreats.com to snag your spot.Brad Crowell 4:29  Do it. Lesley Logan 4:29  And you can bring your friend or family member who doesn't want to do the Pilates classes or the workshops. It's totally fine. There's an option for them. Also, when I get back, somehow on my, on the retreat and everything, I've got to stay in my Pilates readiness, because when we come back, like, two weeks later, I end up in L.A. where I'm doing the photo shoot for the accessories deck, and a lot of them are really going to be totally cool to do and easy to do. And then there's the push up handles and the Guillotine. And I'm like, a little scared, so I have been readying myself for this. So you, if you are interested in the accessories deck, which is going to be like towel exercises and breath a cizer and two by four.Brad Crowell 4:39  Two by four foot corrector. Lesley Logan 4:52  Toe corrector. And also, I'm on a mission to make sure that you know how to make at least half the deck. And guess what? Shout out to Karen Fishman, who told me how you can just make the push up handles. And so we have to figure that out, because I want so the only thing you'd have to buy is the Guillotine. And so I'm really trying to make sure that most of this deck is some household things you can make, so that. Brad Crowell 5:32  My foot corrector is hard to make. Lesley Logan 5:34  No, you'd have to buy that. The toe corrector, J's favorite toe corrector was a broccoli rubber band. Brad Crowell 5:40  That's awesome. Lesley Logan 5:41  I know. He's so simple. I loved him. So you want to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, that's all singular, to get on that, because people on the wait list get the best deal. Brad Crowell 5:53  Yes, they do. Lesley Logan 5:53  Then, Brad, what do you have for them? Because I, clearly, am busy.Brad Crowell 5:57  I am excited to be supporting fitness business owners just like you. So if you are feeling stuck with income for your business, whether that is a small business, a medium business, or even a large business, we have worked with more than 2000 companies, whether you're renting space, you have a home studio or whatever, over the past six years, and we have come to realize that there are three main secrets, three main secrets, that help you grow your income. So if you're feeling stuck at all with your income, this is a free webinar. I'd love for you to join me. It's called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator. So go to prfit, prfit.biz, that's profit without the O, prfit.biz/accelerator. Sign up for free. You'll see when the next one is that I'm going to hold. I'm gonna, I'm gonna host. Come join me. We can chat, get to meet each other, and I'm gonna share these three big tips that we have boiled down after, like, I don't know, thousands of coaching calls. I mean, it's been so many years now, so, yeah, come join me. prprfit.biz/accelerator. After that. Lesley Logan 6:59  We're going on winter tour.Brad Crowell 7:01  What? We're hitting the road again. This is our most ambitious one yet. Y'all, I know I said that last year. Well, we're topping it this winter. Lesley Logan 7:08  At some point we have to stop topping it. I'm just gonna say. Brad Crowell 7:11  We'll see, we'll see. Lesley Logan 7:12  We'll see? No, at some point we say, there's the last. Brad Crowell 7:16  I would love for us to go to Europe. That kind of tops a domestic tour.Lesley Logan 7:20  Well, that, that's true, that's true. Brad Crowell 7:23  That would be really amazing.Lesley Logan 7:24  But that's a different tour. That's a different goal. I'm just saying that at some point the winter tour does not get to grow any. Brad Crowell 7:30  Yeah, this one's pretty. This one's pretty much capping it off. This is over a month and we're gonna be on the road for over a month, 24 locations that we're planning and all across the United States, mostly like along Route 40, and then all the way up to, we're literally looking at Maine right now, and then down to Miami and back through Texas to get back home. So come join us. We are definitely going to be driving to a city near you, even if you're coming like an hour or two. Come anyway. It's so much fun. We love to meet you in person. We do raffles. Balanced Body is going to be doing some raffles and stuff, all the things, and we just love it. So yeah, and it'd be awesome to meet you in person. So go to opc.me/tour, opc.me/tour.Lesley Logan 8:13  All right, before we get into Nadine's amazingness, what is our audience question about this time? Brad Crowell 8:17  We have a question from mayab487 on YouTube, she said I am 143 centimeters, often vertically challenged, which, I had to look up, is four foot eight inches and change. What Reformer Pilates machine would you recommend, especially for those who are on the smaller side of height, your recommendation is greatly appreciated.Lesley Logan 8:35  So here's the deal. There was someone who was making Reformers for like kids a long time ago, I, clearly, Maya, you are not a child. I don't know, clearly, you could be, but I'm assuming you're done growing. So there was someone doing this. I can't speak to the quality or the temperament or if it works, but there was someone. That being said, if you were teaching other people or other people are going to use this in your family, then I would suggest you get the 80-inch Contrology. I actually suggest that for all of my five footers, and you're not going to get the deep hip flexion on footwork, but there are other exercises in Pilates that will give you the deep hip flexion. Coordination will give you deep hip flexion. You can use a moon box so you can get deep hip flexion in knee stretches or in stomach massage, you can just sit at the edge like anyone else wouldn't get deep. So just because we can't get you deep hip flexion in footwork doesn't mean you're not going to get it. So the 80-inch is what I use, and that's what I would suggest you use, and what I suggest on my five feet tall. And even if someone in your life is taller than you, I'm five nine and a half, my husband is six one and we use the same Reformer. So that's what I would suggest for anyone. And honestly, like for most people, I want them all to have the 80-inch. It's nice to have an 86 if you have, like, multiple people over five ten just for a couple exercises. Every once in a while, it's really nice to do a short spine with a little bit more room, but not necessary. Not necessary. So that's what I would recommend. You can use my link, Maya, we'll put it in the show notes that will get you a discount on that Reformer or any of the Balanced Body and Contrology equipment. If you want a special color, make sure you reach out to us, though, so we can connect you with someone, because that way you'll get the special color and the discount. Brad Crowell 10:15  I was looking them up while you were talking, and I did find a 75-inch Reformer and then one that's even less than that. So they do exist. I have no idea about the brand or the company or the quality. Lesley Logan 10:26  Send me the link. Can you text me? Brad Crowell 10:27  Right now? Lesley Logan 10:28  Yeah.Brad Crowell 10:28  Yeah. Sure. That one's 190 centimeters. This one is 160 centimeters, which turns into 63 inches. So that's definitely for, you know.Lesley Logan 10:42  This is really inexpensive. That makes me nervous. I don't like ropes. I don't like ropes.Brad Crowell 10:47  Yeah, it does have ropes. Lesley Logan 10:49  Yeah? So, you know, I see this, I don't love it. I don't love it, Maya. You do you, but.Brad Crowell 10:56  She have no idea what Reformer we're actually talking about, we're referring to in this conversation. Lesley Logan 11:00  Well, I can't, I don't want to put the name out, because I'm clearly saying I don't like it. So. Brad Crowell 11:03  Well, anyway, I'm with you on that. Totally with you on that. So the 80-inch, aside from the deep inflection on footwork, the 80-inch should, will still be beneficial? Lesley Logan 11:13  Yeah, because you can use a moon box or yoga blocks for some things, and if you're an OPC member, I can literally tell you where to put your feet, where to put your body, so you can use it. It's totally, perfectly fine, and so that's what I recommend.Brad Crowell 11:24  Maya, great question. Thanks so much for writing in. If you have a question, you can ask it on YouTube, you can ping us on Instagram, or you can text us at 310-905-5534. Stick around. We are going to get nerdy about Nadine Hanafi's interview in just a minute. Brad Crowell 11:42  All right, now, let's talk about Nadine Hanafi. Nadine is a branding expert and the CEO of Digital Brand Kit, the world's first full-stack branding company. With over 10 years of experience, Nadine specializes in helping personal brands elevate their visual identity and confidence through innovative brand strategies. Her first business, We are Visual, established her expertise in presentation design. She works with TED speakers and bestselling authors, and now today, she's working with small business owners like us, like you. Lesley Logan 12:13  Yeah, she's super cool. One of the things that I love, that she said is that branding is energy. It's definitely not just your colors or your fonts and your website, it's that your branding encompasses the messaging and the voice and visuals, the overall presentation. So you can, like, focus on your fonts, and you can pick some beautiful colors, but the consistency and the energy that you bring and the way that you talk about things, and even the words that you use, and all of that, that is, it's all of it. It's like when certain people walk into the room, we went to this in the last episode, like charisma, it's the energy of the person that just walked in. And it encompasses, yes, their outfit and what they're saying and how they're standing and what they're doing and how they talk to you, it's all of that. So, I really appreciate that because I really think people just said, oh, I can't start my business until I have a logo and I have this. It's like you can start sooner than that, and your branding is already starting before you pick any of those things.Brad Crowell 13:09  That's right. I mean, you have a brand, even if you don't realize it. Right? You know, you are your brand. And then you can begin to define these things and hone that, that stuff, and make adjustments to it, but it already exists, and now we just have to bring it out. Lesley Logan 13:22  Well and also, like, one of my favorite things that anyone's ever said about me is, like, why you're the same in person as you are online. I'm like, yeah, because it's the energy that I bring is not made up. It's not forced. It is in everything that we do. What did you love? Brad Crowell 13:36  She said seven or eight years ago, the online business world was less saturated, and entrepreneurs could succeed with messy, unpolished content. There was less competition, fewer experts sharing valuable insights. Today, the online space is definitely more crowded, especially with business coaching, with many individuals, some knowledgeable, and others not, trying to sell and teach. And so definitely your branding and the presentation that you are, you have, plus all the things that Lesley was just mentioning, you will use those things to grab people's attention. And she said, if you're somebody who actually knows what you're talking about, you owe it to yourself to brand yourself as the expert that you are, and to make that brand, that, the whole thing, cohesive. So it is helpful to be, it's important to be intentional about your branding as you're going, as you're beginning to see your business taking shape. But I do agree with what you said just a minute ago, that you don't need it. You won't even know your brand when you first get started to be honest, y'all, it took a long time for us to like, figure out how we, you know, saw ourselves being and acting in the space. Because it's not just colors and text fonts. It is the energy you bring to the table. It is the transformation that you're creating for people. It is the language that you use, your posture, and those things aren't very clear right away.Lesley Logan 14:58  Yeah. Yeah. That is just, you kind of have to grow into it. Brad Crowell 15:01  Yeah, yeah, I love it, but that's where Nadine's saying she can help you grow into it. So, I love that. Lesley Logan 15:05  She can, we have a special link for that. Brad Crowell 15:07  Yeah, yeah, we do. All right, stick around. We'll be right back with some Be It Action Items. Brad Crowell 15:12  All right, let's finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say with me, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Nadine Hanafi? Lesley Logan 15:21  I love how you always ask that, and I've never said it with you. I'm like, you must be talking to them.Brad Crowell 15:27  I'm talking to everybody who's listening. Lesley Logan 15:28  Yeah, it's not me, apparently. Brad Crowell 15:30  Yeah, yeah, no, no. She said brand your higher self. Lesley Logan 15:34  That's a be it till you see it right there. Brad Crowell 15:36  That's be it till you see it. Brand your higher self. When it comes to branding, there's a way to show up as the next version of yourself. So even though you may be who you are this moment, it might not be where you see yourself down the road. So you can definitely create the branding for where you're going, and that will help you act the part and to grow into those shoes. And I do, I do agree that is really it's a, be it action item, if there ever was one. Specifically, one of the things I know you've mentioned on previous pods is like, what would a 10-figure business owner do in this situation? What would a seven-figure business owner do in this situation? Right? That is the same concept here, except we're talking about branding instead of, you know, decision making. Which, they go together. She said make them want to meet you and learn from you and create that attractive energy with your branding. So, love that. What about you? Lesley Logan 15:42  Of course, I love this one. Book a professional photo shoot. Book a professional brand photo shoot and actually do it properly. So we talked about this, and she actually has, like, a blog post about this. But when Monica and I do photo shoots, you guys, Monica and I are like, two little hummingbirds that, like, run around all the time until photo shoot time. And then it is like, which brand, what photos we need. Like, here's the list. It's like, oh, headshot, here, this here. And like, I look at the list. She looks at the list. We have the clothes put out the night before everything is ready to go. So it's just, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And she said, you want 50 solid shots. At least.Brad Crowell 16:29  We have a full-blown checklist of the photos that we know we want to take before it even starts. Lesley Logan 17:07  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 17:08  So yeah, we'll go in with, like, all right, we got 100 we want to hit, go. Lesley Logan 17:12  Yeah. And we do an annual shoot. So if you've never had any shots, like, photo shoots done for your business, you might have to do a couple a year or a few a year to, like, get. Brad Crowell 17:22  I think the first year we did three. Lesley Logan 17:23  Three. So really build the library up, you know? So now we can go down to like, one a year, and we pretty much do a two-hour shoots. We could just, like, it's almost like two shoots at one time, but we have a checklist, because you will forget or you'll get distracted. I mean, I will, I literally saved this one checklist. I was like, hey, babe, I just need a few shots in this outfit for my birthday invitations. Thank God it was at the end, because I think we did 50 shots just in that. Brad Crowell 17:48  I remember which one you're talking about. Lesley Logan 17:49  I was like, I was like, oh, let's add this. Let's add this. Oh yeah. So you want to stay on, you want to stay on. And also, like, may, I also suggest you have a third person there to help with the checklist. Hey, did you get this one? Hey, do you get this one? Because while you're changing clothes, they can be talking to the photographer and making sure you got the different shots. Also, you need someone there to make sure that your shirt's tucked in or not tucked in, or. Brad Crowell 18:09  Yeah, because the photographer is they're definitely trying to look at everything, but as having another set of eyes to be like. Lesley Logan 18:15  Do you remember when, so this is, photographers are amazing. And I'm not throwing one under the bus, because I've used a lot of photographers, and I've been like, how they not catch this? They're so focused on the lighting and the shot and how good you look. We did a bunch of shoots with the deck upside down. Brad Crowell 18:28  Oh, did we?Lesley Logan 18:29  Oh yeah. Brad Crowell 18:30  Well, I missed that.Lesley Logan 18:30  We had to Photoshop the cover of the deck on correctly.Brad Crowell 18:35  I didn't even know that.Lesley Logan 18:36  Oh yeah, no, there's a bunch. Brad Crowell 18:37  That is really hilarious. Lesley Logan 18:39  You guys, go book your shoot. Brad Crowell 18:41  Yeah, yeah. Get yourself a shoot. It's worth. It's worth doing a photo shoot. Lesley Logan 18:44  And of course, we recommend Monica. She's been on the show before. We've had two episodes with her, so you can listen to her and check her out. She has pop-ups everywhere, you can go to L.A. if you want. But she does do pop-ups at a lot of places. Brad Crowell 18:53  Having professionally done shots will make you excited to use them. Lesley Logan 18:57  And make sure they're a branding photographer, and not a family photographer. They're very different things. Brad Crowell 19:02  We're not doing headshots here. That's not what we're talking about. Lesley Logan 19:05  Yeah, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 19:06  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:07  You're fucking amazing. You are.Brad Crowell 19:08  Yeah, thanks for being here. Lesley Logan 19:09  And we're so grateful for you. We love that you listen. Please leave us a review. 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Lesley and Brad recap an insightful conversation with Dr. Jan Schroeder, Ph.D., an expert in exercise physiology, focusing on fitness and self-care during perimenopause. This episode offers actionable insights on how to adapt your exercise routine and lifestyle habits to support your health during this transition.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Pros and cons of using the AeroPilates reformer for home practice.The impact of perimenopause on women's reduced physical activities.Understanding the role of cortisol in your body during menopauseAdjusting workout routines to align with your body's changing needs.Why crucial to give yourself permission to adjust your fitness goals.Episode References/Links:eLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatTry Out OPC $40 for 40 DaysPilates Studio Growth AcceleratorOPC PerksFemGevity  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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There's positives to it as well. Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:01  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the implementable convo I had with Jan Schroeder in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to this one, you should go back and listen. It's a perimenopause one, guys, we finally got someone who really is like a wealth of knowledge in this area and on a specific niche of it. And I'm so, so excited for it to hear, for you to hear all of it. So anyways, you're gonna want to listen to this and listen to that. Today is September 12th 2024 and it's Are You Okay Day. So the history of Are You Okay Day, in 1995 Barry Larkin's death by suicide left his family and friends in deep grief and with unanswered questions. In 2009, his son, Gavin Larkin, chose to do something about his father's death. He came up with just one question to honor his father and prevent more suicides: "Are you okay?" Gavin and a few of his friends decided to turn it into a national campaign from this realization and with their expertise and passion, R U OK? was born. So Gavin actually passed away in 2011 but truly held onto the belief that a conversation could change a life. His legacy is now a national conversation movement. R U OK? is a harm and suicide prevention charity that encourages people to have conversations that help others and themselves navigate the difficult times in their lives. You can learn more about R U OK? on the thing, it's really wonderful what they're doing. There's also some really other amazing charities. Our friend, Mai, is actually part of the Nevada suicide prevention.Brad Crowell 2:23  Yeah, it's ruok.org and I think it's ..org.au Lesley Logan 2:28  Awesome. Brad Crowell 2:29  And that's A, not A-R-E, it's the letters R and then the letter U, ruok.org.auSpeaker 1 2:37  There's also, in the States, there's the AFSP and this one, you can learn more about suicide. You can learn how to help prevent it. And usually, different states have their own local organizations of those. So, really important and if you are needing a phone number, 1-800-273-TALK (8255) is the phone number you can call for prevention, lifeline for suicide. And there's also a lot more information on calling it death by suicide or died by suicide, because there's a lot more research around why this is happening, how this is going on. And it's not as selfish as we have come to think. So it's really, really important that you check that out. All right, some upcoming events and travel. Like we said last week, we're kind of sitting around and that and in Las Vegas and enjoying the best time of the weather that is here. But we're also thinking big time about 2025 because it's gonna be here before we know it. And a lot of the things we work on are years in the making. So eLevate, which is our mentorship program, that is something we actually accept applications for early, because it's a big program, and we wanna make sureBrad Crowell 3:39  It's a commitment, it's a, you know, the transformation that you are going to get is massive. Speaker 1 3:45  And it also is something that will continue to change and evolve in your life over time. So it's not like you just do it for nine months and it's over. There's like, more that you get out of it. It's like a fine wine, it just, or a tequila, right? So if you are a teacher interested in our mentorship program, go to lesleylogan.co/elevate and you can learn more about it. You can hear what our past grads had to say. We've now had 49 people do the program, 50 people.Brad Crowell 4:10  Yeah,Something like that. Lesley Logan 4:10  Yeah. And I'm, just because we keep the groups nice and small. So I'm really, really excited for 2025. Also in 2025 is our February Cambodia retreat. Brad Crowell 4:18  Yeah, come join us. Lesley Logan 4:19  Oh, my God. I cannot wait to spend a week with the people who have signed up. I'm really, really excited to get to know them more. We do Pilates classes, we tour temples, we go to Lotus farms. Brad Crowell 4:27  We had two more sign up. It's gonna be great.Lesley Logan 4:28  I know it's gonna be so amazing. So crowsnestretreats.com is where you can get more information on the retreat. And by the way, like you can come straight to Cambodia and leave and be home and only miss like eight days of your busy life, or you can hit Thailand or Laos or Vietnam on your way in or your way out, and like, really make Southeast Asia a tour and a trip. And we curate the week for you on this retreat. It's really fun. We do breath work. We do a lot of work on life balance and things like that. Plus we get to enjoy a beautiful country. Brad Crowell 4:32  Plus lots of Pilates. Lesley Logan 4:54  Lots of Pilates. And because you are listening to this, you might actually be a little Pi-curious, Pilates curious. And so we hope that you check out onlinepilatesclasses.com as a way to get more Pilates in your life. We really do pride ourselves in making it easy and accessible to get accountability and community and feedback on your form at OPC. So go to opc.me/40 because you can take Pilates classes from us in our app. You can talk to us about the class in our app, and you can celebrate others in there as well. Brad Crowell 5:32  And if you're a business owner, whether that's a super small business owner just getting started, maybe you have one home client or something like that, all the way to I've got multiple studios. If you're feeling stuck with your money, I want you to come join me for a free webinar that I'm hosting called the Pilates Studio Growth Accelerator. And we're going to be uncovering three big secrets that we've come to realize over the years after having coached more than 2000 businesses coming through our coaching program, join me at prfit.biz/accelerator. That's profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator to sign up for free. Lesley Logan 6:09  All right, before we get into the amazing conversation, I had with Jan about our fitness and perimenopause, we've got an audience question to answer, yes? Brad Crowell 6:16  Yeah, we sure do. "Is the AeroPilates reformer sufficient for reformer training in a small space or a piece of junk, and I should just try to find a legit reformer somewhere else to practice with?" asks @etain.pilates on the YouTube.Speaker 1 6:31  Yeah. So we actually even went deep into discussion, because I had several questions about affordable reformers for home practice and things like that. So there is an actual long form answer to this question, and I'm going to give you a snippet of it, and hopefully, if you need more information, you go watch that. Actually I have two videos. We have one on how to choose reformer for at home, and then we have me answering this question, like, how do I find affordable reformer at home? So I'm not going to call anything junk, especially when I don't know why it was created. Something that's really important to note is that Pilates equipment is typically created for the style of Pilates that's designed to go on it. Just like a treadmill or a bike or, you know, any kind of fitness thing, it is created for the style of work that you're going to do on it. So for me, if you are trying to do Pilates that's more classical or even typical contemporary I'm not talking like athletic reformer, because I don't know more about that. Then I don't know that the AeroPilates is going to be sufficient enough for home practice, because it's going to limit you, and it's going to change things in a way that you can't modify. So the foot bar, for example, it's not going to be the angle you're used to when you teach or you go to a studio, the straps, the handles, the bungee cord versus spring. So I'm not going to say it's junk. I'm going to say that if you are trying to deepen your reformer practice, it's going to be like you don't see sprinters for the Olympics training on ice skates. They don't. Right? It's just, there's nothing wrong with ice skates.Brad Crowell 7:57  I think a better comparison there would be, they're not training in a walking shoe, they're training in a running shoe. Lesley Logan 8:05  Correct. You're correct. Okay, that's a better example.Brad Crowell 8:07  They are certainly not training on ice skates. Obviously, you're you're not going to try to do Pilates on a trampoline.Speaker 1 8:11  Fair, fair, fair, a better analogy. Kind of come up things on the spot, some, they can't all be brilliant, but you're correct. Like, the sprinters are not in, they're not even in regular running shoes but they're in track shoes with like.Brad Crowell 8:11  That's actually the best analogy. They're not training in running shoes, they're training in sprinting shoes.Speaker 1 8:27  We got that, we got we got there, we got there. So what I would say is I would find a studio that you can rent space at and abuse theirs, or I would find a used reformer that truly is more like what you're used to and accustomed to and make it a piece of furniture in your home. People are not expecting homes to look like hotels. They expect homes to look like things you live in, so get the one you like. That's my answer. If you want to get a discount on a Balanced Body or Contrology piece, you can check out opc.me/perks, we do have discount links on all of that stuff. Brad Crowell 8:58  Yeah. And if you're trying to find our YouTube channel, just go to opc.me/yt. All right. Well, thanks for asking that question. If you have questions that you'd like to ask, feel free to text us at 310-905-5534, or hit us up on Instagram. Just that. Mention us and fire away. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 9:17  All right. Now, let's talk about Jan Schroeder. Dr. Jan Schroeder is a professor at Long Beach State University and coordinator of their unique Bachelor of Science in fitness. So you can literally go to college for fitness. And that's. Lesley Logan 9:33  It's like, one of the only places you can do that. Brad Crowell 9:35  I think she said it is the only place. Lesley Logan 9:37  Yes, yes. Oh, shout out to Michelle Sims (inaudible), she connected me with Jan because she said is there anything you need? I'm like, yeah, I need two people. I need people on perimenopause, who do you know?Brad Crowell 9:46  Yeah, so Jan, Dr. Schroeder has a PhD in exercise physiology and she's passionate about educating women on the importance of personalized fitness strategies, overall well-being and self-care during and after menopause. She encourages women to prioritize their health, understand the changes in their bodies, and adapt exercise and lifestyle habits tailored to their physiological, social and psychological needs.Lesley Logan 10:12  Just, okay, was, I found it really enlightening. I felt like there was so much permission. I found like she had so much information. There's a lot of people who are out there now talk about perimenopause, and I'm loving how much advice and information out there. I thought I was like, oh my god, I'm going through it early. I got some help from Femgevity, and I'm not, but I actually do have some support, some bio identicals to just enjoy my life and keep a baseline. But she talked about, like, how we don't really need to, like, go, oh my god, I'm going through this. I can't go, there's so much support out there. But a lot of times the things that we are doing as we go through perimenopause and into menopause are actually giving us reverse results we want. So she specifically took a little lens of fitness. And when you are in perimenopause and post-winter and like, winter menopausal because your hormones change, she advocates that you have to have a holistic approach to combining exercise, nutrition and hormonal management to navigate menopause effectively. And she really gave us some tools on like just adjusting our behavior. So it's not like this negative thing, but actually it supports these changes, because these changes don't have to be a bad thing. There's positives to it as well.Brad Crowell 11:21  Yeah, that was one of the biggest things she was talking about. Is that we only ever seen to hear or talk or think about the negatives, and we very rarely think about the positives of it. Lesley Logan 11:35  I also just want to say, like, I love that what she talked about, like a 40-minute workouts or less, working out in the morning, doing different things that can actually support so that the workouts you're doing are supporting your health, your longevity, your cardiovascular system, your bones, if weight loss is something you're wanting to do, those are all really important things. And the world is set up with these hour-long classes, high-intensity classes, and we've got women over 40 doing these crazy metabolic workouts when really they need some strength. They need some move meditation. And so I was like, patting myself on the back. I'm like, OPC is 30-minute classes, just saying, and you can do when you want.Brad Crowell 12:15  Well, I thought something that was really interesting was she talked about this natural inclination that we have to we, meaning women who are going through menopause, that they have, as they hit menopause, they just stop moving. Lesley Logan 12:30  It's a real it was really interesting. The part of the brain that just goes, okay, I'm not gonna tell you to get up.Brad Crowell 12:35  Yeah, she said the stats are 40% less movement typically as a woman is hitting menopause, and I don't know if that's just built into how we are, or if it's like, oh, this societally adopted thing of like, oh, I hit this phase in my life and I'm gonna just stop now.Lesley Logan 12:52  It did. And she said it doesn't even sound like it was a conscious thing. It's likeBrad Crowell 12:55  (Inaudible) she said women tend to sit more. They're just sitting more. And she said, it's really important to start paying attention to those things using a fitness tracker or a journal, so that you can start to track yourself and be like, oh, wow. I used to get 10,000 steps, and now I'm getting 6000 steps. How did I end up doing that? Right? So we use an aura ring. Can't give you a link to it, really, it's not that easy to do that, but the Oura ring, it connects to your health app on your phone, and it tracks a whole lot of different things. But she said, be mindful. Jot those things down. She said it is actually reduced activity level is dictated by estrogen. So yeah, you're right. It doesn't seem like it's a conscious thing. She explained, the estrogen affects different tissues in the brain, especially the hypothalamus, which is responsible for how much food you eat, how hungry you feel, how much energy you are feeling like you can expend, want to expend. She said, when we take estrogen away through menopause, what the brain does is the hypothalamus cannot regulate these things anymore the way you used to. So it's important for you to consciously regulate them yourself. Be aware of that stuff. So yeah, I mean, I found that really intriguing. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 14:08  All right, welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Jan Schroeder? She advised against long duration cardio workouts during menopause. And y'all, we talked about this about a million times that the 80s were all about running and cardio, and that was how you're gonna lose weight and it has been busted and disproven. That is not reality a million times over. But what I found really interesting was she started to talk about cortisol, and when we hear cortisol, we immediately think negative things. We're like, oh, cortisol bad. And she said, No, actually, cortisol is also good, but we have to regulate how much of it that we have in our system. And as we age, more cortisol is just natural in our bodies. And then through menopause, it can kick it up a notch even more. And she started talking about things like, when are you doing your workout and how are you doing your workout, right? So when she started talking about working out earlier in the day, and then how you're doing your workout, cardio is gonna just add a lot of cortisol. And she said the problem with cortisol is it affects your sleep. You need it in the morning. It gets your brain going. It gets you going. But then in the end of the day, if you're jamming a lot of that, you know, if you're kicking off a lot of cortisol, you're going to have a difficult time sleeping. You're not going to process during sleep, because you're not going to be getting that sleep. And so basically, it becomes a problem if you're adding a lot to it at the end of your day. So she did recommend, this is where she was talking about 40 minutes or less and working out in the morning. And she recommends short bursts of high intensity of interval training to manage cortisol levels that's instead of long, long distance running kind of thing. So what about you? Lesley Logan 15:53  She said, You need to give yourself permission to back down. Oh, my god, are we sensing a theme of this podcast? So you need to give yourself permission to back down. She said, if you're a runner, that's gonna be too intense for you. So walk and put a weighted vest on. And I added a weighted vest to all of my walks. I'm gonna tell you guys, holy freaking molly, even if the walk is short, I'm no longer like, oh, my own we didn't do long enough walk today because it was too hot. Just adding that weighted vest intensified the walk. Brad Crowell 16:19  What did you get, 12 pounds? Lesley Logan 16:20  Not 12 pounds. Yeah.Brad Crowell 16:22  It's in the middle of the road one, right? Lesley Logan 16:23  Yeah, yeah. And I think now, hey, my in-laws, I would like a weighted vest where I can add weights or take them off. That's what I want for Christmas. Okay, but, like, maybe I have to look it up, because I'd like it to be a little sexier than what I've got. This is like the ugliest thing, but it's okay. It's fine. The looks don't matter. But it's those kinds of things, like, give yourself permission, that's going to be okay. We don't have to be at our highest level all the the time to be at our best self. And I thought that was really cool. You don't have to be your highest level all the time to be your best self. Brad Crowell 16:48  I think that is something that's been interesting for me, is being like, hey, today I generally don't feel like I can take on the world when I go to all my workout, right? And then being like, all right, it's all right, if I only do 80% of what I did last week on as far as weightlifting goes, or whatever. Lesley Logan 17:06  Yeah, and by the way, guys, it's called listening to your body. And also, like, if you keep going, wow, I keep feeling like I can't do it, then that's a sign you do that. Like other things are going on. You need to do some other things if you still have your cycle, ladies, I do use an app I have no affiliation to, called wild.ai that actually helps me figure out what kind of workouts I should be doing based on where I am in my cycle, which is really, really cool, because then what I do is I do more high intensity on the first two weeks-ish, and I do a little longer duration, lower intensity on the last two weeks. It has really helped me manage the cortisol as well. So I'm not doing cortisol when I have progesterone coming in, because that is a bad thing, and that's going to affect my sleep. It's going to affect my cycle. So.Brad Crowell 17:46  If all this is foreign language to you, we definitely encourage you to connect with Femgevity who has been helping Lesley really wrap her head around all this stuff and understand it for her body. Lesley Logan 17:56  You can go to beitpod.com/femgevity. Brad Crowell 17:59  Yeah. F-E-M Femgevity. Lesley Logan 18:01  Jan, you're brilliant. You gave us such an amazing look on fitness and perimenopause, and really great tips to just stay strong and stay with energy. And I'll also understand what's going on with our body and not see it as such a negative thing. Thank you so much, y'all. How are we going to use these tips in your life? We want to know, so make sure you can't tag Jan, because she's like, non-social, which I think, how cool is that?Brad Crowell 18:24  So cool. She's a professor. That's amazing. She also still teaches.Lesley Logan 18:27  She still teaches fitness, yeah, but tag the Be It Pod and then do me a favor, share this with a woman in your life. The thing that is so fascinating to me is that, how many women older than me did not have this information? And no, it wasn't out there. There wasn't a lot of research and we're doing more research now. But also, if we talk about this stuff, then it forces people, companies, other people, to find information for us. We get to demand what they talk about, by the way. So please share this with a friend so that we can change more women's lives and make going through perimenopause and endomenopause, and our years after that really thriving. It doesn't mean like it's bad. There's like, good stuff out there. So until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 18:32  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 18:43  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 19:51  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:56  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 20:01  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex, Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 20:08  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 20:11  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally, to Meredith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Michal Harvey is our final episode in our season engaging with artists based in Middle TN. Michal is a comprehensively trained Pilates instructor through Balanced Body, a ballet teacher, and a former professional ballet dancer. A Nashville native, Michal trained with The Centennial Youth Ballet. In 2010 she earned a B.A in Dance from Belhaven University. Michal pursued a number of dance performance opportunities with regional companies in Jackson, MS; Jerusalem, Israel; and Fort Worth, Texas, where she danced professionally with Ballet Concerto. Michal relocated back to Nashville in 2013 to a full-time faculty position with The School of Nashville Ballet. She received her Master's in Organizational Leadership and Communication from Belmont University in 2019. She currently teaches at P3 Nashville and Centennial Youth Ballet. In our conversation she shares about balancing training with long term goals, being open to new directions, and establishing one's identity outside the dance studio. Takeaways from our conversation: -we grow as we learn -accountability (and a support system) fuels growth -learning from weaknesses -seeking sustainability in a practice  Thanks for listening to our conversation, thanks for sharing this episode with a friend and for leaving a review.  You can learn more about dance education and career planning for dancers at emceemovement.com.

Have you ever struggled with maintaining a positive mindset? In this episode, Lesley shares heartwarming wins from the community, highlights the importance of protecting your energy, and celebrates the power of perseverance. Don't miss out on these uplifting stories—tune in and find your motivation today!If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How Laurie set mental boundaries to protect her energy from negative clients.Ainsley's journey helping a grieving client find joy through Pilates.Balancing personal life and full classes for enhanced focus and well-being.The progress and success of the eLevate program's fourth round.The importance of consistency and showing up for long-term success.Episode References/Links:eLevate Mentorship ProgramOPC Summer Tour  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey Be a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah. Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:43  Hi, Be It babe. Welcome to your Friday episode. Welcome to us sharing some fun wins. This is a quickie. It's always a quickie. And hopefully you hear a win of yours because it might remind you of a win you had in the past and you might be having a day where you're like, "Oh, this day." And then, and then you hear your win or you hear someone else's win you go, "Oh, I had a win like that." Lesley Logan 1:05  So here we go. We're going to start doing some wins. The first one is going to be from Laurie Sindlinger. "FYF, I was feeling a little rundown from teaching lately and noticing I was taking a lot of my clients' negative energy with me long after the sessions were over. I started this week by taking care of my own needs and my family's needs and bringing a different energy into the studio myself. When I saw the clients that always complain about their lives and it kind of dump on me, I put up a mental barrier. I listened, but immediately let it go and focus my energy on the good work I could give them. I'm not sure if they noticed, but I did not carry the bad energy with me for the rest of the day. And I felt great all week. Also, one of my clients brought me a cute hair clip today that lays flat behind your head. So I thought it'd be useful for Pilates. And I finished viewing and taking notes on two of the summer camp classes. I bought a day pass and could not attend live, so I'm working my way through them all little by little." Laurie, I just love this. Like I really, really do. You know, there are those energy vampires and we're like, how do we get this person in our lives? Like how did this happen? And so I just really appreciate you sharing your way of creating space between their negative energy and what you were doing in a day. So thank you so much. Lesley Logan 2:20  Okay. We have Ainsley who is in eLevate four and she has a couple of wins I'm going to share. So one of them is, "Last night I saw a gorgeous new client who had lost her husband six weeks ago suddenly. Her grief oozed out of her in a mix of shock and sadness and blankness. She almost looked translucent. A mutual friend recommended me to her. Her goal is not to think about things when she's with me and to get strong enough in her ankles to go back to running. By the end of our session, I provided the distraction by getting her moving with her feet and straps. Deliberately done a demo of the variety we will be doing. She laughed so hard and smiled saying if her husband could see her now. It was so precious. She left last night with a smile on her face, pink sheets and grateful, signed up for one to ones and mat classes to give her a new focus. It was yet another reminder of how beautiful this practice is and how truly special the effects can be.I feel so grateful to be able to do this." Oh my God. Ainsley, like, what a gift. You're not only giving her the gift of moving and potentially getting running back in her life, but also like something she can laugh at when thinking about her husband and not the grief that she's going through. So what a beautiful space you're holding. Ainsley is in our eLevate round four group. It's been so fun to watch her grow as a teacher. So here's her other win, "Last weekend was amazing. Thank you all. I'm so grateful. I get the opportunity to be in this group." She's talking about eLevate. "I'm excited for some space this weekend to move and practice and the homework and got to practice with JM before her trip tomorrow. My lighter mornings and nights means I can walk the dog earlier, but four clients allowing me to take a couple of extra sessions on to pay for Vegas and Cambodia. So excited to have full classes and one to ones to allow me to practice all my new learnings and curiosities. Ah, Ainsley, I'm so, like, I love this so much. I know this is, like, after weekend three and we just wrapped weekend five and it's just like, can you believe how fast the time has flown? She actually got to be in Vegas for weekend four and I get to see her in Cambodia. She's coming for the second time, which like, absolutely happens. People come to Cambodia for the second time. So Ainsley, thank you for sharing your wins. They're like so fun and present. Lesley Logan 4:26  Okay. So my win is that eLevate round four weekend five happened last week. And I am just so proud of this group of women. They're epic. They're amazing. It has, you know, for some of them, it was so much information at the beginning. It was very overwhelming for others. It was maybe not so much, but then as they've integrated it into their lives, into their practice, I've watched them have so much more confidence in their movement practice, not only as movement professional, like teachers, but also in their ability to show up and be present for others. And it's just great. And you saw that in Ainsley's win. So like, you know, her win is kind of like, that's the win I'm trying to express here. So that, just that round five has finished their fifth weekend. They're not done yet. They actually have like more time and then they get to graduate. And so of course we'll celebrate that win, but just it, time flies when you're having fun. And it's just, I cannot believe that we're already here to this 5th weekend. My other win is that we are on a summer tour. Happened. We literally wrapped round five eLevate. We taught a class in Las Vegas and then we got in the car and went on this tour and y'all like it's our 6th tour. And my, my, obviously like, we're powered by Balanced Body so it's really nice to have an amazing sponsor, but I'm also just so proud of all the toes that we worked with. They have done such an incredible job, like making sure their community comes out to these classes. And so the, the wins I have this week are more community based and more based in, in other people's coming to things, which I have no control over, but where the win in that for me, is it like, the consistency I've had in showing up day after day, week after week, year after year pays off. And if you are stuck, if you're feeling like you're doing something and it's not turning into anything, just keep going, just keep going. Sometimes you'll do things and no one will show up. And sometimes you do things and a lot of people show up and you learn from both. So you're winning or you're learning, which is winning to me. So I just, a couple of big, huge landmark wins, which are not necessarily the types of wins that I always share because I want you to think about when it's happening, not the culmination of things. But, but please, please, please share, like, celebrate everything that did happen. It doesn't always go the way you planned, so I'm not telling you that it's gone off without a hitch. There've been some hitches, but the fact that we are here on the sixth tour and we're having the time of our lives and really enjoying ourselves is the win.  Lesley Logan 6:56  So, all right, let me leave you with a little mantra. There's poetry in everything if I look for it. There is poetry in everything if I look for it. There's poetry in everything if I look for it. Are you looking for poetry today? I hope you do. Make sure you send your wins into the Be It Pod and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 7:14  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 7:57  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 8:02  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 8:06  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 8:13  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 8:17  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell recap their favorite takeaways from the interview with renowned author, psychologist, and dream guest Gay Hendricks. Discover insights on self-sabotage, transforming your perception of time, and the power of wonder and creativity. Tune in to learn how to apply these transformative insights and start overcoming your limitations.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How previous guests' Be It Action Items changed Lesley and Brad's daily routines.Lesley's persistence to secure Gay Hendricks as guest for the podcast.Gay Hendricks' insights on identifying and overcoming self-sabotage.The concept of Newtonian vs. Einstein Time and how it affects your day.How to manipulate time perception to achieve better results.Key questions to ignite your wonder to unlock your genius zone.How to commit to daily creativity and help you manifest your true potential.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship Program for 2025Cambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysStudio Growth Accelerator for Profitable PilatesHendricks InstituteThe Big Leap by Gay HendricksDr. Mindy Pelz FastingJohanna White Episode 171Dai Manuel's Episode 185Phil Barth Episode 187Nikole Mitchell Episode 319Kel Cal's Episode 382  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey Be a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  He just looks at life with just so much curiosity and joy and excitement. He clearly lives in such a present place. I don't think the man is stressed out. I want to move to Ojai and do his routine. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to talk about the dream convo I had with Gay Hendricks, oh my god, in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you are missing the fuck out. You are missing out. Brad Crowell 1:07  It's a great convo.Lesley Logan 1:09  Isn't that wonderful? Don't you just want to be friends with him? Brad Crowell 1:12  Okay, so if you don't know who Gay Hendricks is. He is a renowned author and psychotherapist. And he blew my mind when he said yeah, so I've written 51 books in the last 50 years. I was like what? That's insane. Fascinating, fascinating human. Sounds like the coolest guy. Lesley Logan 1:36  So cool. He loves his wife. Did you? You didn't watch it, did you? Brad Crowell 1:40  I did. Lesley Logan 1:41  You watched it? Did you see him tear up? He's like, she was gone for three days and just came back. I was like, my husband doesn't tear up when I return.Brad Crowell 1:50  What? What husband? Lesley Logan 1:51  Ah. Anyways, we're gonna get into that convo because I loved it so much. I am just, I can't even believe, I can't believe it happened. So today is August 1st 2024 and it's the beginning of National Wellness Month. About this month. In August, we celebrate National Wellness Month. Prioritizing your self-care managing stress and promoting healthy routines. Create wholesome habits in your lifestyle and focus on self-care to feel like your best self. We can often put our health and wellness on the backburner due to work deadlines, traffic, family obligations and other stressors. Research has shown self-care helps manage stress and promotes happiness. For a happy and healthy life, it's important to focus on wellness and self-care. National Wellness Month was born out of the idea that if we're going to do big things in the world—build our careers, raise a family further education, create new ideas and nurture our bodies—we must take care of ourselves. Brad Crowell 2:38  Got to do it. Lesley Logan 2:39  Hey, Brad, how do you take care of yourself?Brad Crowell 2:43  I eat well and I sleep occasionally. Lesley Logan 2:49  No, you sleep more than occasionally it's gotten a lot better. You used to like do a lot of all-nighters at least one a week and you don't do that anymore.Brad Crowell 2:55  Yeah, it's true. I don't do that anymore. Lesley Logan 2:57  Yet you also work out. Brad Crowell 2:59  Oh, yeah, I do that. I do workout actually more now than I have in, well, maybe there was one point when I was super diehard with my yoga practice where I was doing, like four or five times a week. But yeah, I mean, I'd say I'm pretty much moving every day intentionally, you know.Lesley Logan 3:19  You also cold plunge in the morning. Brad Crowell 3:21  Yeah, been cold plunging. I've been doing some sunlight in the AM.Lesley Logan 3:27  You do get your morning sunlight. You also do yoga almost once a week. Brad Crowell 3:31  Yeah. Also, you know, doing some vitamins through our supplements. AG1. You know, stuff like that. So it's been good. It's been actually more than I've ever done in my entire life. Lesley Logan 3:46  Yeah. And you didn't try to do all the things at the same time you like, added one in at a time.Brad Crowell 3:51  It's. That's exactly right. We all have heard you talk about your morning routine and self-care routine, but I must say the thing that I the most excited about is the cold plunging. And I'm sure you're excited about that, too. I know it's become a daily thing for you.Lesley Logan 4:07  I love the cold plunge. I never miss a day. I'm actually so bummed that I'm not going to have the cold plunge when I travel. Like that's the hardest thing is like, a cold shower is not the same. Brad Crowell 4:16  It's not. Lesley Logan 4:17  You can do it. But it's just it's a little torturous to be completely honest. Yeah. Yeah, I also love that I added my sauna blanket into my routine. It's more of a weekly thing, a couple times a week. And I made the mistake of going oh, I'm working out later this afternoon. So I'll sauna this morning. And I've been fasting like, Mindy Pelz fasting thing and nope, not a good idea to sauna blanket during the fasting window. I was like, oh my god, I'm famished. So, not great but, it was good intent. Good intentions. Well, you guys, we want to hear your self-care routine. So send them to us. We can share them with others because people need to know what are different ways of taking care of ourselves. Self-care is not a reward you do for being a good person in this world, it's part of your rights as being a human being who, just so you know, you're a much better person in this planet when you take care of yourself.Brad Crowell 5:11  It's true. That's why we encourage everyone to do Pilates. Lesley Logan 5:15  And speaking of Pilates, we're leaving in three days from today. So if you listen to us on a different day then, we might be already on the road for our summer tour, our sixth tour powered by Balanced Body. We are hitting 13 cities and so many are sold out. But there are some spots and some things we want to see you so go to opc.me/tour to snag your spot. Bring a friend who's probably curious, of course, come for the community, get the Pilates and win some prizes. It's a good time.Brad Crowell 5:43  Actually, a bunch of the classes are already sold out. But there's, there might still be some availability. So make sure you go check opc.me/tour 5000 miles over 16 days we're going to be ripping through and so come hang out. We actually love to meet all of our members in person, you know, or listeners in person, come hang out and come meet the pups. It's gonna be good time. Lesley Logan 6:07  Yeah. Also, my eLevate applications are open for 2025. It's my mentorship for teachers who've already been trained on the mat, reformer, tower and chair, then you can apply to be in my mentorship program. We really like dive in deep and nerd out and help you teach the body in front of you and like progress clients with confidence, but also, also get nerdy about your personal practice. It's a lot of fun. We've had so many grads and we have a ton of amazing people already signed up for 2025, space is super limited so if you're interested, you don't want to hesitate and wait to the last minute because I might not have any slots. And the next one won't be till 2026. So lesleylogan.co/elevate is where you can apply.Brad Crowell 6:51  Yeah. Okay, next up is one of my absolute favorite things to do. You've heard me talk about Cambodia before. We are going back in February, the end of February 2025. And we would love to have you join us it is an once in a lifetime opportunity. Seriously, the memories that you're gonna make from this experience you will tell everyone about it, you will brag about. It is a bucket list thing. We're gonna go to temples of Angkor, there are lots and lots of temples and we'll get to see a whole bunch of them, get to eat amazing food, meet some incredible people. You're gonna stay at our place, you know, in, you know, right in Siem Reap is the city that we're in. And then we get to do Pilates and all the things, so it is just amazing. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com if the end of February 2025 works for you. And if it doesn't just go there and you know, add yourself to the waitlist for future retreats. Lesley Logan 7:45  Yes. And then, if you haven't yet tried the OPC, we want you to. OPC is our Online Pilates Classes membership where you come and just nerd out about Pilates and you get accountability to show up for yourself. Our classes are 30 minutes. Every week in our monthly classes you have access to the full month or 50 minutes, but you can finish as many minutes as you want because I do believe finishing is optional. And we have amazing teachers besides myself. Also, we made a change. So now you get access to each weekly class for two weeks. So when you log in, you'll see this week's class, you'll see last week's class. And so when you try OPC for 40 days for $40, so it's $1 a day, you're going to have access to several different classes to really enjoy and nerd out about in your body and also access to our members link community where you can get feedback on your form, and so much support. So go to opc.me/40.Brad Crowell 8:39  Yeah, do it. Next up, we got something new, we're making a few changes to a webinar I've been working on for a really long time, the Studio Growth Accelerator for Profitable Pilates. So if you are a fitness business owner and you've got a small business or medium-sized business and you're looking to figure out your money, and how to get more of it, and what all that means, join me on this accelerator. It's a free webinar. Free. So go to prfit.biz/accelerator, prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O dot biz slash accelerator. And, you know, add yourself to to the list and then we'll let you know exactly when things are kicking off. And we'll be digging into money together. It's really exciting.Lesley Logan 9:33  Okay, before we get into, I can't wait to talk about Gay. I'm so excited. Before you do that we have an audience question. We have a listener question. So Brad, what is our question we're answering this?Brad Crowell 9:43  Okay, cool. Erin Donahue asked, 'Hey, what have you changed in your daily routine or way of thinking as a result of one of the guests' Be It Action Items?' By the way, I think it's perfectly timed with today being the beginning of National Wellness Month. Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, it's great timing.Brad Crowell 10:00  Yeah. What have changed in your daily routine or way of thinking as a result of one of your guests' Be It Action Items?Lesley Logan 10:06  There's a there have been some things that, I've done a lot and we've had so many, I mean, 400 episodes. So like, that's not all 200 interviews but like Brad Crowell 10:14  120 or 130. Lesley Logan 10:16  130 interviews. So it's 130 minimum. Brad Crowell 10:19  Probably 150 because we didn't start doing the third episode till partway through this. Lesley Logan 10:23  Yeah. And also, some people give us four Be It Action items, three. So there's been a lot that I'm like, oh, I love, I want to try that out. Or oh, I really love that one or oh, I don't need that one right now. But I know someone who does. I will say what changed my way of thinking is when Dai Manuel from episode 185 talked about 30 minutes is only 2% of your day. I had no idea that 30, how cool am I that I created OPC with 30 minutes, I'm only taking up two percent of your day. But it changed my way of thinking. And so now instead of like going (inaudible) time for that, I'm like, it's only 2% of my day, do I not have 2% of my day to dedicate to myself? You know what I mean? Like, it really changed my way of how I prioritize even just 30 minutes for myself, because my goodness, you got to have that in your day. It doesn't have to be all at once but that's really cool. I did do Kel Cal's, like, be it till you see it song several days in a row. And I have to say, because I would play it while I was cold plunging. And I think this is so fun. But I also kind of want like a different song all the time, which is making me research too much. And so obviously the overachiever in me is like, wearing its ugly head. So I got to tame that beast, but I really do. I really, I want to find a five-minute long song to be completely honest because then it's not ending while I'm in the cold plunge in it and like having to find a new song or repeat it. But that being said, that was a great one. I really liked that one. I think I changed my mindset around some mantras because of Nikole Mitchell. You know, like posts and things like that, like putting reminders up where I can see them because of her Be It Action Items. So which one? Can you think of any that you've added? Or changed your thinking?Brad Crowell 12:05  I mean, there's so many different things, but two that really jumped out for me over the years that have actually made an impact. One of them is Phil Barth actually saidLesley Logan 12:16  Oh my god, Phil Barth.Brad Crowell 12:18  Yeah. He said, (inaudible) he basically said, if you don't make room for your bucket list, you'll never do your bucket list. Okay? So I know, it's like one of those things we like, I'm gonna get to it someday, I'll eventually get to it. And I really loved where he's like, pushing you to put a date on that, a timeline on that. Because I thought, I still think that way. I'm like, someday I'll do that really cool thing. Like, I've always wanted to hike the Appalachian Trail. You know, that's a six-month thing. So I don't know how I'm going to just do that. But you know, when you, when you put that on your list, you got to figure out when am I going to do? How am I going to do it? Am I ever going to accomplish that? Otherwise, it'll just stay there. Another one that I really, I'm not very good at this. And this is something that is challenging for me. Joanne Johanna White said buy the shoes. Lesley Logan 13:14  You don't. You, I have to push you. I'm sitting over here almost buying a belt for a suitcase bag and you are like, I don't know, I've been in my car. Let me think about it. Three months later. I don't know. I'm like, those are never going on sale. They'll never do it. Just get the shoe.Brad Crowell 13:30  So yeah. You know, basically, whatever the thing is, that represents how you want to live your life and you know, that aspirational thing. It's time to put the money down and do it. You know, and I'm not very good at buying myself. Thanks. So, yeah, that's, I've just kind of always kept those things in the back of my mind. I mean, there's so many other amazing ones.Lesley Logan 13:53  I'm now wondering if we should do an episode of just like, Be It Action Items, like just take all all these Be It Action Items and just make episodes out of them because like, I feel like people need to re-hear them. Brad Crowell 14:05  Yeah, I mean, that'd be awesome. That's definitely something we should go back and and have a convo about. But, let's get to it. Let's talk about our guest, Mr. Gay Hendricks. So stick around. We'll be right back.Okay, now let's talk about Gay Hendricks. Gay Hendricks is a renowned author, psychologist and speaker known for his influential work in personal growth and relationships. He holds a PhD in counseling psychology and has authored over 50 books, including The Big Leap which explores overcoming personal limitations and achieving success. Also one of Lesley's favorite books. In his work, he emphasizes transforming one's perception of time, as discussed in his concept of Newtonian versus Einstein Time. Hendricks' teaching focuses on self-awareness, love and integration of body and mind therapies. He's also been married for 44 years, and he and his wife are both focused on similar things. And he was talking about how excited he was that he was able to work together. Lesley Logan 15:07  I know they are so precious, you guys have to follow them on Instagram. And they like do little lives together and like videos and she like, cook something and they're just so sweet and supportive. And they go, it's just wonderful. So they'll put a smile on your face always.Brad Crowell 15:22  Okay, first off, I just want to say, tell I ask, "When did you first find his book? And how many times have you listened to it now?" And tell us a story about bringing him on to the pod. Lesley Logan 15:34  I think I first heard about him in, I want to say it was in 2019, because I remember being driving the Tahoe on tour, listening to his book. Got it. So 2019 was when I was listening to the book the first time. I have listened to it seven times. It has been a book club book for Agency. We have, anytime someone's like, what's up? I'm like, that's the book.Brad Crowell 16:00  Yeah, I think we had, at one point we had a couple of copies of it here too. Lesley Logan 16:02  Yeah. They just keep getting given away. Which is fine. So it's the best and then how did I get him on the show? Okay. So I remember at the very beginning of this podcast, like I asked some big dream guests. I like I have like a lot of guts, I guess.Brad Crowell 16:18  Which we're talking more than 400 episodes ago. Lesley Logan 16:20  Yeah. Yeah. And he responded that nothing, no response. And I like DM-ed him and no response. And you know what's really funny? Here's the link, the podcast that I heard him on, I asked her, she didn't respond. A year later, I asked her she was like, I'm so in. And then for one year, her assistants dicked me around and canceled last minute, moved it around, and I, they're like, oh, we have to like reschedule again. I said, we're not rescheduling anymore. I'm withdrawing my invitation. And I was so disappointed because of just how she handled it just seemed like out of alignment with her values. But I was not done asking Gay I just needed like, I was likeBrad Crowell 16:59  So, with somebody else all together?Lesley Logan 17:01  Yes. Yeah. So Gay, it was like, I just I wasn't getting I wasn't going to the right avenue. I was like, maybe have to find his publisher, maybe I have to do this thing. So I just was really busy. And so occasionally, I would like tag his book and things and like, he wouldn't even respond to those. And that's not his fault. Like you guys. Like, that's not a slight against him. Most people don't respond when I tag them. So like, it's not a big deal. I don't respond when people tag me. So like, that wasn't a big deal. But Christmas of last year, I have been listening, you and I have been listening to like some sort of like self-help, like, thing with James Wedmore who's also a guest I will have on the show. And so I was listening to his like, seven days, or whatever it was. And I was like, I don't want to listen to any news. I want to stay in this positive mindset space. So I'm going to listen to Gay Hendricks' book again. And I was listening to it. And it was Christmas Day. And you were at your parents and I like was walking I like was being by myself in the hotel. And I got through like five chapters like in the morning. And so then I posted a selfie of myself saying I'm listening to this book, like the seventh time, if anyone knows how to get this man on the podcast, help a girl out. And he saw it. And he shared it. And he sent me the email of the person who gets on the pod. So timing is just everything guys, like, probably he was either busy writing a book or wasn't the one opening his DMs. I don't know, maybe he just never saw it because like, it's also the when the post that he made that day was the first one in months. So like it's just also possible and stories don't last more than 24 hours. So then like there's nothing to respond to. So at any rate, I think the timing was so perfect, because how cool he gets to be episode 400? Brad Crowell 18:38  Yeah, pretty, pretty rad. That is really amazing. Okay. Well, tell us about one thing he said that you loved.Lesley Logan 18:46  There was actually so many things. First, I didn't even know he wrote 51 books, you guys. I thought he had written the two that I love. So I'm like, wow, I should do some research. But he said most people don't know where their upper limit problems are located. They think it's problems are having externally rather than internally. But each of us has our own self-sabotage mechanism. And these start from childhood and they are the form of limiting beliefs.Brad Crowell 19:13  That was something very surprising to me. Like before you even realize that you're consciously compiling decision-making powers you're being imprinted by Lesley Logan 19:23  All the parents listening, you probably have, in all your best intentions, done some form of limiting Brad Crowell 19:29  You f* up your kids, god d* it. Lesley Logan 19:31  You f* them up. And you know, it's okay because your parents f* you up and you're all doing the best you can. And each generation you, hopefully f* them up a little bit less. But at any rate, like they're these limiting beliefs are things that we've, are ingrained. Like, you know, my mom was telling me some things that hurt like dad would say it and I'm like, oh my god, no wonder she doesn't think she can do X. He, like he, like the things he said were just who says it out loud?Brad Crowell 19:59  So I was listening, overheard that conversation.Lesley Logan 20:02  I mean, I'm just like, Oh my god. So. So I just think it's really, really I think what's cool about his book is it helps you understand your self-sabotage because you, you might not until you and he puts words to things that you're doing and actions you're taking. And you might not even be thinking that, like, I've told, I've told this story before, but my client who, whenever she would meet a guy she really, really liked to have an amazing date, she'd lose her voice for six months. You guys, this girl did not have a cold. Like, nothing happened to her. She just really liked this person. And then because she had, she would like self-sabotage by making herself lose her voice. So she couldn't possibly go on another date. And then she'd have to go through steroid treatments and all these things and like, vocal coaches, it was just crazy stuff. And I'm not saying like, you know, like, these are things we do. You know, we do this all the time when things go, well, we want vacation, we get sick. You know, so it's just very fascinating stuff. Um, that's just one of them. Self-reparations, another, there's a bunch. And I just thought they were so, so great. So his book really will help you understand all of them. He'll give you great examples. And I just, I'm fascinated. I'm fascinated by him. He also, you guys broke his femur. Brad Crowell 21:17  Oh, yeah, like recently. Lesley Logan 21:18  And he is doing just fine. Because he just looks at life with just so much curiosity and joy and excitement. He clearly lives in such a present place. I don't think the man is stressed out. I want to move to Ojai and do his routine.Brad Crowell 21:35  Well, I really was nerding out about this idea of Newton versus Einstein time. I know it's your favorite chapter in the book.Lesley Logan 21:42  But as I, you guys have to listen to the episode, because it wasn't always. Brad Crowell 21:47  It wasn't always but he, he also talked about it being one of his favorite chapters in the book. And he kind of explained a little bit about this. And I thought we should rehash this so we can kind of wrap our heads around it. Newton time, time is linear and mechanical. Lesley Logan 22:04  Or also known as Newtonian time. Brad Crowell 22:05  Newtonian time, it reflects a rigid, structured approach to time basically the way that we think of, I gotta be there, you know, I'm working from nine to five, okay, nine o'clock to five o'clock. So you're there, right? Period, that is Newtonian time. It is rigid, it has a structured approach. Whereas in Einstein, he said, time expands or contracts, depending on the quality of our experience. For example, what did you all just think when I said, nine to five? It's so long. But it's still just nine to five. It's the same nine to five. But our experience of having to be at the office from nine to five is like, ugh, right? So it feels like forever. I'm sure you've all had that experience, where you're like, whoa, what happened to today? It just went so fast. That is Einstein's approach to time, right? So he emphasized the importance of Lesley Logan 23:00  Well, Einstein's approach is that you could stretch, you can manipulate it. Like, it's not just that, like, the day goes so fast. It just is like, you can, in the book, he talks about how like, if you are constantly looking at your watch, I'm gonna be late, I'm gonna be late, I'm gonna be late, I'm, and you have no control over the train, and you have no control over these things. You are inevitably, what? Hitting every red light like Newtonian time, like when we stress out, like we hit all the red lights, and we're late, right? But when you just like sit back, relax, like James Wedmore talked about a story about how he was like doing a sales call. And it went long. And he looks at the clock, he's like, I'm never gonna make it to the airport. He was like, and he had to like return the rental car.Brad Crowell 23:38  I literally experienced that same story. Lesley Logan 23:40  And he was like, there's no other way but I'm gonna make this flight. And it's going to happen, and he just believed in it happening. And he eased in, he kept focusing on that. And he stretched time, you guys, he made it there it's not like the plane delayed, and that's why he made the flight. He just somehow made it there faster. Like everything opened up, all the doors opened up for it to be easier to get there. So that's Einstein time. Brad Crowell 24:04  I've had that same experience, like in the airport where we landed late, you know, from another flight. And then I had to go across the airport, which includes taking a tram. Right, and then I had to still go back through security. And yet somehow I made the flight. Lesley Logan 24:17  Yeah. Oh, I mean, I remember. Okay, so, Heathrow. I was on a plane and they were, the Heathrow Airport was making us circle the airport and the flight attendant came up, came up and she said, hey, they know you're here. You're checked in. But you're gonna need to run. And I was like, okay, no problem. You guys. I didn't just need to run, I had also take a bus and then run again. So the bus and I started doing little Newtonian time I started like checking the minutes. I just kept checking my watch because this bus was not coming like checking. I'm like, I'm not gonna make this fight. And then I was like, hold on. I have to make this fight. This flight is going to happen. And I was on the bus. And of course every plane is just wanting to drive in front of our bus and I see this girl and I, because everyone there is definitely going back to India and like, this is one blonde chick. And I was like, are you going to LA? And she said, yeah, I was like, (inaudible), like, we're gonna make this flight. We're making this flight. And we it's going to happen. And sure enough, you guys we ran, we had to go through security. But I was just like, we're making the flight, we're making this flight. And we, I don't know how we made that flight. But we made that flight. And they brought us wine and they gave us our own row. So it does work, you just have to believe in it.Brad Crowell 25:32  Well, so Einstein emphasized the importance of changing how we perceive time, encouraged noticing and altering complaints and limiting beliefs around time to start noticing when you're complaining about time, start noticing when you're complaining, or where you address other people about time. I guess when you were talking with Gay, one of the things he talked about was, "Oh, sorry. I don't have enough time for that conversation." Right? And that was the kind of approach that people are taking with Newtonian time as opposed to Einstein time. And he said, ultimately you own your time. And that's one of the things that Gay was talking about. You take responsibility for creating whatever way about time you want to create. But you have to do it in your own creative way. It's abstract. I'm not gonna lie. But, also, it's amazing that we've all probably inadvertently done this over the years.Lesley Logan 26:24  Oh, you guys, it feels like this random chapter should be its own book. And then it when you read the book again, and again, it makes more sense. When you listen to Gay and like why he put that in there, it will make more sense. So listen to the episode. And then also, like, just notice the intentionality of words. Like I don't have time for that meeting, as opposed to like, oh, I'm not able to commit to that right now. Do like one of those puts you in a more powerful place, and the other one puts you as a victim of your circumstances. Right? And so that can change how you perceive your abilities and your strengths. There's this one woman that I heard speak and she said, I never say, I can't afford that. Because that is telling the universe I don't have any money. That's telling me I don't have any money. She said, instead, I say, I'm not, I'm choosing not to spend money on that right now. And so it's just it's a different thing. And so, at the very least, just like, notice the power in your words, and your time, we've got control over it. It's kind of amazing. Brad Crowell 27:19  Well, speaking of time. Lesley Logan 27:21  We're taking too much. Brad Crowell 27:22  Stick around. We'll be right back. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Gay Hendricks? He emphasized to get busy wondering about what your genius zone is. Now, I think the key is wondering, right, y'all to have this great conversation. Well, I wonder and you talked about your tattoo. But he said wondering is an underutilized human superpower. We, he said, we often we almost always go around looking for answers outside of ourselves, you know, very much like this podcast. But he said, what if you take a moment to look in internally, we're often asking gurus and teachers, but it's rare to actually just sit, set aside 10 seconds or 10 minutes, and then genuinely wonder about yourself, about it, the thing, whatever it is that you're working on, are focused on. And he said, here's a couple of key questions to ask, which I thought was really helpful. What do I most love to do? And what do I love to do that makes a contribution to other people? And I thought that was helpful because you know, what is wondering, right? What are we wondering about here? What are we actually trying to do? Lesley Logan 28:43  Yes. And in his book, his daily book, Your Big Leap Year, he has you do a lot of hmm.Brad Crowell 28:50  Oh, yeah?Lesley Logan 28:51  Yeah, humming, it actually does a thing in your brain that like opens up the wonder portals and then you say, hmm.Brad Crowell 29:01  Well, so remember, we're trying to find our zone of genius. So how do we get busy wondering about our zone of genius? So start by asking the questions what do I love? What do I most love to do? And then what do I most love to do that makes a contribution for other people and then give yourself time to actually wonder, be curious, think about it. Lesley Logan 29:22  And you could go hmm, what do I most love to do? What do I most love to do that makes a contribution other people?Brad Crowell 29:31  Hmm, what about you?Lesley Logan 29:32  Hmm, oh my gosh, okay, this was so great. This was just like I was eating this up. Our poor team, we didn't even stop for him to, we just went right into this. I was like, good luck guys getting those be it action items in there. Creativity is anything that has the capacity to surprise you. I'm like I just love it surprise you like we never get surprised anymore. No one wants to be surprised anymore. I don't.Brad Crowell 29:55  I do. Lesley Logan 29:55  Like you love it? Brad Crowell 29:56  Yeah, I like surprises. Lesley Logan 29:57  I get so nervous. So like I'm trying really hard. But he says make a commitment to getting more creative every day and opening up more of your genius, which starts with a commitment. So you have to start somewhere by making a stand and the more heartfelt you make your commitment, the faster it will manifest. So he advised you to get your head and your heart in alignment and working together because that gives you an unstoppable power to bring forth the things that are most important to you. Creativity is anything that has the capacity to surprise you. So a Be It Action Item is like, how could you be more creative in your day? What is something you could do? Could you, "Hmmmm, I wonder." Like going back to episode, how fun is this, episode one was all about going how does it get any better than this? Brad Crowell 30:43  How does it? Lesley Logan 30:44  Like that could be your ability to open. Brad Crowell 30:46  101, we're back to it. Lesley Logan 30:48  Yeah, the capacity to surprise you. So and I really liked this because you know, The Artist's Way is very big on like getting creative every day like journaling. So creativity can be just like Morning Pages, it can be taking a different route to work in the morning. And maybe you get creative with your outfits every day. Some of us like have a whole closet full of clothes, we don't wear like there's so many different ways you can get creative. Maybe you get creative with your lunches that you make for yourself, or the coffee that you, that you make, you know, maybe like, there's just so many different ways you can, you can be creative. So I love that. I love I just love this episode, and I'm just so happy. It's out into the world and it's in your ears. Please share it with as many people as possible. If you don't have to share this one you can share that interview one but like, please, please, please leave a review. And we're at episode 400. And you know, what I would love? It would mean the world to me, is by episode 500 that we will have you know, grown our audience like, times two. And that happens if every listener, if every single one of you shares with a friend who listens, boom, doubled. That's how it goes. It's that easy. You don't have to share with 10 people, one person. Brad Crowell 31:56  One person.Lesley Logan 31:57  So and you know what, you can get creative with it. And you can combine.Brad Crowell 32:01  You can wonder. Lesley Logan 32:02  You can wonder, hmm. Brad Crowell 32:03  How are we going to do this? Lesley Logan 32:04  I wonder who needs to hear this episode? Gay Hendricks if you're listening, holy moly. You changed my life. You have no idea. I'm so grateful for you. Everyone, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Let us know. Make sure that you share your wins with us so we can (inaudible) them on our Fuck Yeah Friday episodes and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 32:23  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 32:25  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 33:08  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 33:13  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 33:17  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 33:24  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 33:28  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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What do you want the version of you to look like? Brad Crowell and Lesley Logan reflect on a recent interview with business coach Kareen Walsh, highlighting the impact of taking action in achieving success. They discuss overcoming procrastination and perfectionism, emphasizing the pivotal role of self-reflection and inner work. Additionally, they explore the differences between Contrology and Studio Reformer equipment. Ready to take bold steps toward your dreams? Tune in for motivation, personal growth, and actionable insights!If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why procrastination occurs with tasks you don't genuinely want to do.The importance of accepting imperfections and being true to yourself.Why introspection is necessary, especially when life feels monotonous.Why manifestation requires both visualization and actionable steps.How to identify where you are out of integrity and make necessary changes. Episode References/Links:Earth Overshoot DayOPC Summer toureLevate mentorship programCambodia retreat40 day Trial for $40Kareen Walsh WebsiteYour Badass JourneyKareen Walsh Episode 27  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  Nothing happens unless you take action. But you can still envision it right? So she's talked about bringing that energy into the manifestation. And that is how you act until the thing actually happens, right? So believing in the vision, then take action to make it happen, because nothing can be manifested without taking action.Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:02  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life Brad, and I, are going to dig into the energizing convo I had with Kareen Walsh in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, you should listen to it at some point this week for all the amazing reasons that we're going to talk about in this episode. But first, today is July 25th 2024. And it's Earth Overshoot Day. So about this day, we're observing Earth Overshoot Day on July 25th. This is a serious day for all of us to reconsider our way of life and usage of natural resources. Our Mother Earth can only regenerate resources at a finite rate. But we're utilizing it more than this rate every year. Earth Overshoot Day was introduced to raise awareness about the resource shortage that we are creating with our modern lifestyle. Once the regeneration resources' at its limit we exploit what was left of the resources making the situation even worse. Andrew Simms started the idea behind Earth Overshoot Day to track the ecological resources and services we use from nature. By the way, not that he needs any downloads from us. But John Oliver did a really cool episode recently about the mining of the oceans. And it's very fascinating because people are trying to say this is where we have to go for more resources for batteries and we do not. There are other ways to do it. So please educate yourself on these things. And as someone who was born and raised in a drought and turns the lights off in every room (inaudible), like you can do those things, too. It's very simple. So take care of the resources you have. It's and that doesn't mean hoard. It just means like, you know, be thoughtful about things. If you live in a place that gets lots of rain, just know some of us don't have any. So just be thoughtful. Okay? Be thoughtful. Brad Crowell 2:42  Yeah. If you want to learn more about this go to overshoot.footprintnetwork.org and you'll find more about that Earth Overshoot Day. Lesley Logan 2:50  Cool, amazing. Okay, we are days away from taking off for our sixth tour powered by Balanced Body. So we are super, super excited. We are heading 13 cities in 15 days. Holy freaking molly. I'm excited to see how this turns out. And many of those cities are selling out or sold out. So you'll want to go to opc.me/tour to get your spot. You do not have to have a lot of experience in Pilates to come, you can bring your friend. I just invited the real estate agent who shows me every new listing in my neighborhood and I said okay, great. I'm not going to come to this open house because I have one but you should come to my pop-up. And she is, she's totally coming. So, opc.me/tour to grab your tickets to our 13 cities. It's Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Denver, Lincoln, Nebraska, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Chicago, you know where that's at? Cleveland. That's the same you know where that is, too. Dayton, Ohio. Brad Crowell 3:45  Indianapolis, Indiana. Lesley Logan 3:47  Indy, St. Louis and Kansas City. Brad Crowell 3:50  And then Colorado Springs.Lesley Logan 3:51  Colorado Springs, because there's two Kansas cities we should just say it's Kansas City, Kansas. So there you go.Brad Crowell 3:56  There's also two St. Louis's. Also split by a river.Lesley Logan 4:03  No one talks about that other one, then. So my eLevate mentorship program for 2025 and application doors are open. We've accepted a ton of people. And at the time that we're recording this I have no idea if there's spots available, but there might be so you should check it out so you don't have to wait till 2026. If you're a Pilates instructor who is wanting to really understand the method in a way that gives you freedom and permission to not over plan, over cue, overcorrect, over talk and also prioritizes your practice first go to lesleylogan.co/elevate. Brad Crowell 4:30  Yup, lesleylogan.co/elevate. Next up, Cambodia. February 2025. We're gonna be taking another group with us and we got a few spots left to for that, crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. And you've heard us wax eloquently about Cambodia over the years. So I'm going to trust you've already heard us talk about that. But I'm telling you, you got to come, it's worth it. Next up, we got OPC. As you know, OPC is an amazing place where you can take classes, workshops, find exercises, we've, by the way, we have like 400 free tutorials or something, I can't remember how many tutorials on there. So it's an incredible resource that you can be tapping into if you haven't already been doing that. And we have added two new teachers. So we're really excited about that. Lesley Logan 5:22  And we've added, we've added that you can take a class for up to two weeks now. Brad Crowell 5:26  Yeah, we can, yeah, that's right. Now, we've actually got two classes available a week, we're going to be overlapping them. So you'll have access to a class for two weeks. If you were sick on week one no worries, we'll keep that class up for a second week. So, good news. That is exciting. It's really cool to see a shift change and grow over the years. And that's because people just like you are joining us in there. But if you haven't yet, or you want to come back and join us again, go to opc.me/40 opc.me/40. Take a 40 day trial for $40. Lesley Logan 5:57  It's like 40 days and 40 nights, but really, it's 40 for $40. Brad Crowell 6:00  It's 40 for $40. Yeah, and then from there, it rolls into a membership of your choice. Right? So we've got based on the different equipment you have access to opc.me/40 Lesley Logan 6:10  All right, we have an audience question before we get into our recap of Kareen. So Brad, what is it? Brad Crowell 6:15  We sure do. This is from Sloth Papa on YouTube. Lesley Logan 6:15  What a great name. Brad Crowell 6:15  Oh, yes, Sloth Papa. He asked, "How did you like going from the Studio Reformer to the Contrology line?" So for those of you who don't know what that means, this is a different line of Pilates equipment. The Studio Reformer line.Lesley Logan 6:31  Balanced Body creates the Studio Reformer and they also create Contrology. Brad Crowell 6:34  Balanced Body creates both Studio Reformer line and Contrology. He said I recently got a studio reformer, replaced the wheels with bushings for more of a muddy drag classical field. I love it. But I can't help but think that I'm missing out on a classical reformer. What are your thoughts? Lesley Logan 6:52  You are. Brad Crowell 6:50  Yeah, sorry, Sloth Papa, you are. That's the answer. Lesley Logan 6:53  And I say this with all the love and kindness. And remember, we are powered by Balanced Body for our tours. So I teach in a lot of Studio Reformers. And here's the deal, you can lengthen your straps to be as long as a leather strap would be. You can add handles, which would create more of a handle-like feeling. And but you can't change the springs. And even if you add the bushing for more muddy feel, you still can't change the fact that the ropes don't act like leather. And the springs don't have a long neck which means the spring still close the equipment, you don't close the equipment. Brad Crowell 7:29  Gotta get those long necks. Lesley Logan 7:30  So, on the Contrology line, when the spring is closed, the carriage is not closed. For those who've never heard of a reformer, this is really boring. With that being said, it's really amazing. And it's incredible. And I love that you're getting as creative as you can with what you have. And I will also say if you really want a classical feel, you can sell your Studio Reformer for probably full price to someone who needs it. And you can get yourself a Contrology line. And by the way, if you love your Studio Reformer, I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying if, you're, like, we can only make so many changes to something before it's not the same thing. And by the way, if you are using a Studio Reformer taking classical classes, drop your ropes on your risers, people, drop them all the way down. And if that doesn't mean anything to you, we're about to get to the episode and so thanks for sticking through it. Send your question in and we will answer it. Doesn't have to be Pilates, can be life, can be music, can be anything. We want to answer your questions because we love giving you honest feedback. So if you want Contrology, we do have an affiliate. So grab our link, save some money, or hit me up with your email and I'll connect you with my salesperson so you can go right to the source. Brad Crowell 8:33  Yeah, but otherwise, you can find that at opc.me/perks, opc.me/perks. Stick around we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 8:40  Okay, now let's talk about Kareen Walsh. Kareen Walsh is a seasoned entrepreneur known for building seven-figure businesses and is celebrated as the ultimate business healer. Her purpose is to be a conduit to help others manifest and materialize their dreams. She is also a top business strategist, coach and investor, and the host of the podcast Your Badass Journey where she shares insights and stories to inspire and empower her audience aiming to accelerate their growth by leveraging her lessons learned over more than a decade in the corporate world and then being a business owner herself. I guess that's probably more than a decade on those two things. Okay. As you may or may not know, actually, you may or may not know this, Kareen, we have been coaching with Kareen for a number of years, she has actually been uniquely responsible for some changes in our business that made our lives a whole lot better which is, I'm alluding to our switching hats a couple of years ago. And not only that, but has been, you know, become a friend in a way. Really amazing brainstorming buddy and still someone who, you know, is very invested in what we're doing. And it's been awesome. Lesley Logan 9:52  Yeah, I mean, we love her and she's back we are gonna have some more changes because we got to like hash some stuff out with her which is great. So I wanted to bring her back because her life has changed so much since she was back first on the show. Brad Crowell 10:04  Yeah, I think she was 2021. Lesley Logan 10:06  Oh, for sure. She was like episode 17 or 57. At any rate, it was like she was. And she was so, so great, Brad's gonna see which number if I'm correct or not with that. She's so great. And I wanted to bring her back on because I think it's really cool for you guys to see how someone can be it till you see it again and again and again. And so one of the things that we got to talk about was about procrastination, how it shows up in something you don't really want. Brad Crowell 10:33  You were very close. Episode 27 and 28. Lesley Logan 10:37  Oh, there we go. Brad Crowell 10:38  And now, 397.Lesley Logan 10:40  Oh. Okay. Brad Crowell 10:43  This is 398. Lesley Logan 10:44  That's amazing. Okay, well, clearly, she's got some numbers in there. So we're gonna know how procrastination shows up in something you don't really want. So like if you really want it, you'll take action towards it. But the perfectionist has hesitation on putting out anything until it feels absolute. And absolute is really hard in the human world. Because we're meant to be a little messy, which attracts other messy people, which is like, actually, like not a bad thing. There's a difference between dirty and messy, just so you know. And it believes it's not about perfection that causes hesitation to put your real self out in the world. I actually thought this is really interesting, because I have always attributed to like you procrastinate on things that you don't really have a goal around, you haven't attached it to your goal in a way that makes you want to do it. And it's kind of like the same thing. She's like, you don't really want it. And so like, we procrastinate on the things we don't really want. And I feel like no less, I really want this thing, but I just am too scared. Because I'm like, you don't really want like get honest about because if you really, really want it, you would actually take action because people do like, it's like as simple as like, if he really likes you he'll call. It's just like that. If you really wanted something, you (inaudible) a way to pay for it. I'll tell you right now, there are some chairs in this house that we did not need, but I really wanted them and I figured out a way to make sure I could get them. You know, so like we do take action towards things you really want. So if you are finding yourself procrastinating on perfectionism it's because you haven't figured how you connect it to something you really want to do and or you are not allowing yourself to be a little bit messy in this messy world and to explore it comes from now it's probably a lot more fun. Brad Crowell 12:19  Yeah, one of the things that that I really dug, she was talking about monotony and self-reflection or introspection, right? So she said when life becomes monotonous, we often convince ourselves that we are fine without that introspection. And I felt like her argument against that was pretty solid, she said that we have to have an inner awakening, it has to happen. She was specifically talking about what, in this case, her life wasn't monotonous. But in the same way, on the flip side, she had to still do introspection, because during COVID, her business really grew amazingly, like it like really, really took off. And she realized I gotta show up as a different person now. And it took a lot of introspection to do what she did, and to make the changes that she made in her life. But what she was talking about here is when we feel like life is boring or monotonous, that same inner awakening needs to happen. We need to actually take up, shake it up and allow ourselves to dream again, right? Because the worthiness of dreaming, again, is tied to recognizing your self-worth. This is really interesting, right? We get into a groove, we forget why we got into this groove in the first place even though we might have felt like there was a reason to get in here. A couple of years down the line, you're in a rut, you're just running the same play every single day. And then the idea of changing out of that can seem a little scary. And also it's like, well, I got here for a reason. Why am I here? And so we don't actually look at ourselves with value, to set aside time to think about change, let alone making the change. I mean, just even conceptualize it. So I love this idea of shaking it up allowing yourself to dream again, when you dream, you're telling yourself that you have value. And a lot of us don't allow ourselves to dream because we're afraid, right? And we're devaluing ourselves. She said, allow yourself to realize that how you've been showing up and who you've been showing up for is no longer who you actually desire to be. Maybe you are ready to change, maybe you're ready to change a lot of things. For herself, and the challenge she asked us was, what is that version of me that I want to show up as? What do I want me to actually look like? You know, and it's, it's funny, because I think, especially when you're in high school and college, you're like, you know, how do I want people to perceive me? And today, it's been so long since we made that decision, we kind of forget, and we're just who we are and we're like, oh yeah, this is me. You know, take it or leave it and that's fine. But also, what if you what if you thought about that again now? What if you thought, well, I could change again, I could actually grow again now at this point in my life, you know, and I think that's pretty awesome. Lesley Logan 15:08  I do. I do like the question of like, what do I want the version of me to look like because that's a be it till you see it. That's a great be it till you see it question. Brad Crowell 15:14  Yeah. Lesley Logan 15:14  Yeah. Brad Crowell 15:16  Yeah, it's awesome. She said aim for the most outstanding version of yourself because that's going to bring you excellent results. Stick around. Brad Crowell 15:25  Alright, finally, let's talk about those, say it with me, Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Kareen Walsh? Well. Lesley Logan 15:36  I hope everyone can say it with you by now. It's episode 398, you've done this 199 times. Brad Crowell 15:42  Yeah, it's true. A lot. A lot. Yeah, so her Be It Till You See It approach is energy is how you act in it until it actually happens. Energy is how you act in it until it actually happens. Believing in your vision, take action to make it happen. Let me clarify this. You two we're talking about manifestation. Right? And the manifestation was, you know, we think of manifestation and it's like, I wished it into being. And she was like, oh, hell, no, that's not manifestation. That's just like, hope, you know, wish-wish marketing. Right? She said, you still had to take action. Nothing happens unless you take action. But you can still envision it, right? So she's talked about bringing that energy into the manifestation. And that is how you act until the thing actually happens, right? So believing in the vision, then take action to make it happen. Because nothing can be manifested without taking action. She advised to get clear on your perspective and how you treat yourself in the process. Right? So just think back a little bit. We were talking about dreaming, putting value on yourself. You know, she talked about how do I want to show up in, you know, in this space? And who do I want to turn into who I want to be continuous growth and evolving is hard. But to fully visualize, you can, it can help determine the stance that you want. Okay and what about you? Lesley Logan 17:11  I really liked that she said, as an action item, step into a life of integrity of whom you're meant to become. Look inward and assess where you are out of integrity. So it's going back to last week's episode with the values thing, it's like, kind of actually kind of amazing how these two go back to back together so well, but looking, like, do a self -assessment of your of like, of who you are. And just notice, like, if you believe that you are someone who shows up when they say they're going to and you are someone who feels themselves properly and you rest, then if you are staying up late watching Netflix, and you're showing up late to your own job that you've already created, and hitting snooze, then you're out of integrity with who you are. And of course, it's gonna be frustrating, of course, is going to even feel monotonous or even not fun. And so really, truly like taking, taking some time to like look at where you are in alignment with your values, and also where you're out of integrity with them. And then you can make some changes. So you can do the inner work to fix all of that. And if you are able to do that, then you'll have a better, clearer lens on what you truly desire, it's what she said. And what you want to actually become very clear, but it's the inner work, so it takes a lot of time. So you got to give yourself that permission. But without it, it's just more noise, you're just going to be like ingesting, ingesting more and more tips and not actually integrating them. So there you go. Brad Crowell 18:39  Yeah, no, I thought it was you know, there's quite a challenge there to be willing to hold yourself accountable. Lesley Logan 18:46  Yeah, absolutely. It's not fun. It's not fun to go oh, I'm the problem. It's, "Hi, it's me." It's the only Taylor Swift song I know, guys, and I really love it. I like constantly just like hi, I'm the problem. It's me. And you know what, the more you do that it goes back to (inaudible) we got him on the podcast. He was like responsibilities like you were able to respond. When you take responsibility for something, it means you're able to respond. And so things you don't like in your life, things you do like in your life, like you can actually have the ability to respond. You have to do the inner work and it's not easy. It's not fun, but you get to have the life of integrity and you get to have the life that you want. And it's really, really cool. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 19:21  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 19:22  How are you going to use these tips in your life today? Let us know. Tag Kareen, tag the Be It Pod, share this with a friend who needs to hear it, that is how this podcast grows. We're gonna be dropping episode 400 very, very soon. It is my favorite guest in life. Dream guest, huge guest and so it would mean the world to me if you share all of these episodes to as many people as possible so that they get the 400th episode into their downloads on the day it drops we can have the biggest day of downloads ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Thank you so much and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:56  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 19:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 20:25  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.  Lesley Logan 20:39  pod. It'sBrad Crowell 20:40  It's written filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan and me Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 20:45  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.   Lesley Logan 20:48  that cup.Brad Crowell 20:49  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.  Lesley Logan 20:56  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 21:00  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

After years of dismissal by doctors, Lesley finally found a provider who understands women's health needs. In this recap, Lesley and Brad revisit a life-changing conversation with Michele Wispelway of FemGevity. They discuss frustrations over the inadequate hormone testing for women and how it can impact their health. Lesley also shares her personal journey with FemGevity, detailing the significant changes she experienced after receiving proper diagnoses and care. Listen and discover the importance of advocating for comprehensive hormone testing and learn actionable tips for improving your health.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Tips for strengthening your core and lower body for better control.The frustration for the lack of hormone testing for women.Understand the gaps in healthcare that affect women's health.Learn about the personalized health plan FemGevity created for Lesley.The concept of accepting, changing, or leaving situations in life.Why it's important to look for doctors that aren't just spot-treating. Episode References/Links:OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatOPC $40 for 40 DaysOPC Mat FlashcardsFemGevity Lesley Logan Affiliate Link  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  I cannot stress enough, pick up the call and get on the phone with them. Just do it because here's the deal, I have spent years actively advocating for my health. It took me years actively advocating and you don't have to do years to change your life. And I don't, to be it till you see it, you can have the best goals, the biggest passion, know your why, have all the strategies, have all the tools and if your hormones or your gut are out of balance, it doesn't matter. It's really gonna be hard to be it till you see it. Lesley Logan 0:29  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:11  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dive into the instrumental, life-changing, health-related, my life will never be the same because of this woman. Holy moly, this podcast has changed our lives, Brad. Brad Crowell 1:26  Yeah.Lesley Logan 1:27  changed our lives. This interview changed our lives. So I'm just gonna say that right now. And so you're gonna listen to this one. You're gonna hear all these amazing things. You'll listen that one that was back in time before I even like knew Michelle, and then you're gonna go do things to change your life because my life changed. Brad Crowell 1:47  That's true. Lesley Logan 1:43  I don't think I've ever said, I only have yet to say that my life has changed from an episode this much. Because while they're all amazing, this one really has tangible benefits and things have changed my life. So anyways, we'll get into that in just a second. Lesley Logan 1:56  Today, you guys, is July 11th 2024 and it is World Population Day. So about this day, World Population Day on July 11th is a holiday that's dedicated to focusing on the importance of population issues. The day was established by the United Nations as a result of the massive interest people had in Five Billion Day in 1987. Here's a crazy timeline. The World Population Day Timeline. 1804: First billion people. That's 1804. How do they even know there's a billion people? How did they do that? Because by the time they allBrad Crowell 2:27  It has to be an estimation. Lesley Logan 2:28  Right, because by the time they actually get to telling the place, there's more people. Anyways, 1927: Second billion. That's been a while. Lesley Logan 2:37  That's over 100 years took a while to hit to 1960s. Third billion people. So that.Brad Crowell 2:41  That's over a hundred years to hit two. Lesley Logan 2:42  Took a while. 1960: Third billion people.Brad Crowell 2:44  So that one cut down to less than just a little over 40 years, they added another bill.Lesley Logan 2:49  1989: A holiday is born. The United Nations recognizes July 11 as World Population Day. Well that's an annoying, that's a lame little timeline there, guys. Brad Crowell 2:59  They wanted to plug themselves. Lesley Logan 3:00  But then we skip the fourth and fifth billion we just go straight to the 6 billion, so.Brad Crowell 3:05  So, within 40 years later, it's year 2000, where it doubled from three to six billion people.Lesley Logan 3:11  Yeah. And then April 24th 2017, seven and a half billion on this day statistical models as the world population at seven. Okay, so we're not celebrating World Population Day on the same day, like sometimes they're just. Brad Crowell 3:23  No, no, these are just markers in the sand. Lesley Logan 3:25  But yeah, 7 billion would have been a marker. (Inaudible) Brad Crowell 3:28  Yeah, I don't know why they did 7.5. But they didn't have eight on there and I know we hit eight. So I went and looked it up. So, November 15th, 2022.Brad Crowell 3:33  There's eight billion people. Brad Crowell 3:37  Which is only 22 years after 6 billion. So, we're definitely growing as a species.Lesley Logan 3:43  Yeah. And you know, that means we all have to think about each other. So, there's a lot of shit going on. And people being assholes, about other people. And it's like, all this fear that people are dealing with. And you know what most people actually are just really nice people. And so please, please, please, when you wherever you vote in this world, think about your neighbor when you're voting not just yourself.Brad Crowell 4:04  Yeah, I mean, the reality is we have more, as of 2020, we've had more people forced to move out of their home of birth, like their country of birth, than ever in the history of our planet. And that was 2020. That's four years ago, there was an estimated almost 300 million people had, were moving around, right? Whether that is from climate change, or war, or whatever it is, I mean, the world is changing, shifting, growing. So, it's really important to understand that these things are happening.Lesley Logan 4:41  Yeah, so just like, you know, when you vote think about people, not just yourself, and like, we all try to live on the same planet together and it's possible. So anyways, that's my PSA.Brad Crowell 4:53  All right, here's what's coming up next. We are going to be on the road in less than a month we're going around the Midwest, we're going from Vegas up through Minnesota, over to Cleveland and back around through the Midwest, on our summer tour for OPC. Come join us for a Pilates class or a Pilates workshop where you get to really dig in. Come hang out with us. Come meet our dogs, come see this epic van. We are sponsored by Balanced Body. We are so fired up to be able to say that. That's incredible. opc.me/tour, opc.me/tourLesley Logan 5:24  Yeah. And then, as this is going on, the eLevate applications are open. Brad Crowell 5:29  Oh, yeah. Lesley Logan 5:31  I think you have a few days left to apply. So you'll want to go to Lesleylogan.co/elevateBrad Crowell 5:37  You got a few days left to apply with a big bonus.Lesley Logan 5:40  Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true. But also, if it fills up, then that's it. (inaudible) So, yeah. So just like I wouldn't, I feel like I don't need a bonus, Les. I'm good. Like, that's fine. But there also might not be space. So, Lesleylogan.co/elevate.Brad Crowell 5:56  Yeah, that's your Pilates mentorship program. It's a nine-month program. Next up, we got retreats. Lesley and I go to Cambodia all the time, as you've heard us talk innumerable times in this podcast. But we've got a retreat coming up in February 2025. And we're going to be taking a group of people with us, we already have a bunch of people signed up. It's gonna be an amazing trip. There's room for more. And we want that to be you. Yeah. So have you ever wanted to explore Angkor which is like, basically the eighth wonder of the world. It's a bucket list location, let me tell you, you can come stay at our house, we actually have a place there. It's so much fun. It's incredible. We absolutely love it. And we'd love for you to join us and see what life is like, around the world go to crowsnestretreats.com.Lesley Logan 6:39  Yeah, and then finally, come to OPC with me, it is 40 days for $40. It's the best deal we've got. It's $1 a day to get some Pilates in your body and an incredible community. Oh my gosh, we're having the most fun now that we're not on Facebook, and we're in the app. And like, it's just so cool. Every single day there's someone in there having an aha moment trying to picture their pet, getting feedback on their form. And it's just and we also have a live class you can come to and we get to hang out and have happy hour or coffee or whatever time it is where you are. And so, it's just like literally people around the world come to class and take class together on that monthly live. So opc.me/40 is what you want to do. Before we get into, can't wait to like sing from the rooftops how my life has changed. But before I get into that, do we have an audience question to respond to? Brad Crowell 7:23  We sure do. Marianna Coaching & Wellness on YouTube asks regarding the Pilates exercise called the roll up? The real problem for me is that I'm a Pilates teacher since 2021. I used to train weights, too. And I think my abs are quite fit. I struggle a lot. And my legs always lift during the roll up. I'm starting to think it's my body's shape. I mean, maybe the shape of my spine lumbar curvature is quite deep. Or maybe it's just that I have glutes or I may, you know, my hip flexors. Like, what do you think? If you're watching on YouTube, you could already see Lesley shaking her head. Hey, Mariana, I can relate to this. I was not lifting weights when I met Lesley. And when I did the roll up, my legs would lift too. So this is, you're not alone. This is absolutely something that people go through. And what is it actually saying about your strength and flexibility and your body? Lesley?Lesley Logan 8:18  Well, without me seeing you do it, which, if you're an OPC member, I could actually, you could film yourself doing the roll up and I could see you do it. Without seeing you do it just based on what you said, I actually think that your back is tight, your hip flexors are over worked. And while your core is fit, your deep core muscles, there's a lot of them, are not firing because your hamstrings and glutes and inner thighs are too weak. Boom. I said it. I said it. Now, it doesn't mean that they're like, you don't have them. No, it's not me saying but your hip flexors are really strong. And so. Brad Crowell 8:45  It's out of balance. Lesley Logan 8:47  So, it's out of balance. And so everything has to be working together in a balanced way, which means nothing is overworking or under working. And so if your hip flexors are really strong what they're doing is they're pulling on your back. So, your back actually is tight, and it cannot round. And so I'd also want to know like what your rolling like a ball looks like and what your open like a rocker looks like. And so  Brad Crowell 9:05  It's true. That's what I was gonna say (inaudible). Lesley Logan 9:07  Yeah, Brad look at those ones, too. So I'm gonna say, if we're not gonna blame your body, we're not gonna blame your booty, I got, I got one, too, not gonna blame it because if we actually turn everything on, you can actually get up and over your butt. You just can't because also the butt doesn't even move the butt is supposed to stay where it is when you do the roll up. So my homework for you. Brad Crowell 9:25  Homework. Lesley Logan 9:25  Homework.Brad Crowell 9:26  Oh, shoot. Brad Crowell 9:26  For those who whose legs lift in the roll up is, single leg kicks on the mat, thigh stretch on the mat, shoulder bridge, not pushing your lower back up but making sure your tailbone is reaching toward your knees. Brad Crowell 9:38  Are your writing these down? Lesley Logan 9:38  Better write them down. Brad Crowell 9:39  Write them down. Lesley Logan 9:40  All of these are free tutorials on the OPC app. They're also on the mat flashcards. And then what I would suggest is that you are really making sure your (inaudible), we have a whole workshop on the (inaudible) on OPC, I want your (inaudible) on, I want your hamstrings and glutes to work which means on the roll up on the hardest part I want you to exhale, squeeze your butt and roll up. Brad Crowell 10:04  Do it.Lesley Logan 10:04  And if you use the mat with a strap like the Contrology mat that I have, we have an affiliate link for that. Grab it because the strap is not for beginners. The strap is for the more advanced. You get, and I just want to say one more thing, because I know Brad wants me to end, just because you've been a teacher for since 2021, do not put pressure on yourself. You should do the roll up by now. I've had clients who don't do the roll up for I mean, they still struggle with the roll up years later.Brad Crowell 10:24  Less than three years. Lesley Logan 10:25  Oh my god it's like not enough time. Like it just takes a long time. It's a hard exercise and in other training programs that's the beginner exercise because it's possible to do for a newbie, but it doesn't mean it's easy. So I just want to take that pressure off, babe. All right. Send your questions in to us guys, and we'll answer them here on the Be It Pod. Brad Crowell 10:41  All right, let's talk about Michele Wispelway. Michele is a seasoned healthcare executive with over 18 years of experience holding an MBA in healthcare management and co-founder and CEO of FemGevity. She also pioneered the first saliva-based COVID-19 PCR tests in the New York metro area. She advocates for women's health, emphasizing the importance of an integrative and preventative approach to perimenopausal and menopause. Her passion extends to creating a supportive ecosystem where women can openly discuss health issues, and access the necessary resources to live healthier lives.Lesley Logan 11:17  Oh my gosh, well, if you guys listen to the episode, you heard me like, I was sharing my frustrations with my experience. And we talked about how, especially in the U.S., but also we've had people here in the U.K., and it is really freaking hard if you're a woman to get your hormones tested. And then for that to be covered by insurance. And then for the things you need to be covered by insurance, it just is really difficult. It's mostly because they just don't do a lot of testing on women. So like people don't know, but a lot of people know a lot of stuff. And what we do know is that there's help out there, and you don't have to live this way. And so she would actually love for like doctors and annual test to make it much easier for women to get their hormones tested. I mean, we expressed this two years ago, when I tried to get my hormones tested from my annual physician's checkup, could not do that. My annual pap smear, could not get my hormones tested. So I guess, what I did guys, I actually worked with FemGevity and I got my hormones tested. We'll go into that in a little bit in a second. But like, there's just a lot of, first of all, if you are frustrated about how the system, especially in a western society in the US, like is hard to get the answers you need, and you're feeling a little crazy. There is help for you. And that is basically why they created what they created. Because like, they're like, there's help out there. And why are we preventing women from getting this help if they can live longer, healthier lives if they had it?Brad Crowell 12:38  Yeah. And I think it was interesting, you know, she, she talks about how to find a doctor. She said, a red flag for her is a doctor who only focuses on one thing. So the irony specialists that she's basically suggesting, you need more than just a specialist, you go to the specialist, after you've identified an issue that like the, the person who's looking at your entire body, can help you, okay, hey, there's actually an issue here, you really need to go see a specialist. But what we often have happen when we are doing health care, in the United States at least, is that you're talking to somebody who is only assessing a small portion or a small vision of your overall health, right? A small piece of your overall health and she said that's gonna go.Lesley Logan 13:23  Well and also like, if you have crappy insurance like we do, currently. Because we work for ourselves, we're working on getting better ones, but there's not a lot of options for us (inaudible) and so we're stuck with the options that we have that we can afford. And so we have to go to a GP who would be someone who does everything. And then they're the gatekeeper to the specialist. And Brad had an experience for the guys like, yeah, you want a referral for that? No problem. You want a referral for that? No problem. Here's, Brad was thrown referrals. And I was like, she's like, no, they can't test for that. No, they can't, like, with women it changes a lot, like, she was like, just like, I was like, do you not like me? Like, why, what is going on here? So at any rate, it can be very difficult to get the specialist that you do need once you have someone who's supposed to have general knowledge, because the general knowledge people don't know all the new stuff, because how can you like, I'm not here to knock, if you're GP listeners, I'm not here to knock that. Like, there's so much new things changing all the time, it'd be so hard to keep up with all that. So at any rate, it can be really frustrating. If you are frustrated. Stay tuned, I got some, I got some things that will take the frustration away from you. What did you love before we go into that?Brad Crowell 14:29  Okay, so actually, nothing to do with FemGevity or health or any of that it actually was failure. You know, Michele talked about being an entrepreneur, which I can relate to, she talked about how do you grow a business? And, you know, how did she become to get into this? Because you asked her like, how did you start from FemGevity? Right? And she said, well, you know, you have to be able to take risks. And because you know, which means you have to be able to fail. And we've talked about this before on the pod but the reality is failure will make you better. Even though it sucks, sometimes it's so scary because there could be a lot riding on a thing that you might be doing, right? And she talked about the decisions that you make as a small business, that could put your business at risk. But you have to be willing to take risks in order to grow. And you have to be willing to fail so that you can learn, and then bring something better to your clients that they will love even more and share that story with others. So I found it interesting where she was also talking about when you're starting to evaluate your health. There's failure there, too. Right? Lesley Logan 15:40  Yeah. Brad Crowell 15:40  You know, like the reality of testing your gut, like learning about the different foods, you know, you just got, you just got a whole bunch of results back. Lesley Logan 15:48  Yeah. Brad Crowell 15:48  And they said, Okay, you're totally allergic to this. and you're highly sensitive to these things. But you're only sort of somewhat sensitive to these other things over here. And then what does that actually mean? And they're like, well, sometimes you could eat it. But then other times, you shouldn't eat it. Lesley Logan 16:02  Or like, the, you might be able to eat it. And you might not notice how it makes you feel, but then you might actually feel awful. So like every (inaudible) that medium sensitive, it's like different for everyone. So it is, if you test it and you gotta get it wrong. And then you're like (inaudible).Brad Crowell 16:17  Because you're eating it. And you're like, oh, that was a mistake, I could tell right away, especially if you pull it out of your diet for, you know, six to eight weeks, and then you reintroduce it it'll be far more attuned to the failure. Lesley Logan 16:30  And also like, this is where the word feedback is a better replacement. Brad Crowell 16:34  Yes. Lesley Logan 16:34  And I think like, it's like, you win, or you learn, right? So if we all can change, failure to feedback, then really now I have more feedback on how I feel about things and I now have a lot more understanding of like, oh, no wonder I felt like crap that day. Oh, no wonder I threw up in South Korea. You guys at outside a restaurant, I had to run up the stairs.Brad Crowell 16:56  I had no idea. She was like, I gotta go. And then I heard the whole story later. Lesley Logan 16:59  Erika Quest had to hold my hair up as I vomited in the bushes outside the front door where everyone from Balanced Body was about to come out. I thought it was my gut. And I'm nope, nope, actually should not ever have mussels. And I had mussels, oysters and slightly sensitivity to scallops. And I had all three in a row. And my stomach was like, holy no, that's a no. So really, my stomach did its job and you should celebrate that. Yeah, she is, I really liked that we got to bring this up because I thought it was like really vulnerable. I mean, like, here she is. She's trying to do something so big with her company and medical rules and things and stuff like it's so hard and to make something that's accessible so of course there's a me failure involved and you learn from it. Brad Crowell 17:29  Yeah, love it. Lesley Logan 17:49  Okay, you guys, here we go. Brad Crowell 17:50  Okay.Lesley Logan 17:50   I'm so you. So, I fell in love with Michele it's like how are we not friends? And when we hit stop on the podcast, I was like, okay, how do I work with you? Because like I'm, I'm sold. And by the way, you guys we didn't get into some perimenopause symptoms in that episode that are like some sneaky ones that your shoulder stuff might not be a surgical thing you guys it could be perimenopause. So go, go get things checked. At least get baselines on stuff. So I asked her about how her company worked. I asked her like what we could do and now FemGevity is a sponsor of the pod and I have gone through their longevity plan. I'm still going through it because it is a what I love about them is like it's your it's not just like a one and done like It's like they're with you. And let me tell you how much they're with me. So they sent a phlebotomist. We need a longevity plan. So we have a link for a consultation call. It's beitpod.com/FemGevity and Brad Crowell 18:44  It's F-E-M Gevity G-E-V-I-T-Y.Lesley Logan 18:47  FemGevity. So when you, when you sign up for the longevity plan, they sent a phlebotomist to my house, which is so nice, because I'm so busy. I did, Brad was like not super excited for what we had to like, top off at a FedEx but I did, I did a stool test. They came to do blood and urine tests. And here's the thing about blood. They don't just do blood, they do serum. And so what is really, really key if you look at their Instagram, you'll see like why serum is so important. So.Brad Crowell 19:15  I'm laughing myself I'm like oh, yeah, that is serum. Like I know what that means. Lesley Logan 19:18  You're like not (inaudible). Brad Crowell 19:19  Oh, yeah, this is serum.Speaker 1 19:21  So, I got my blood tests back first within like a couple of weeks. And you guys I have been telling doctors for years. For years since I got my first test back from the guy who said you have no testosterone that I can detect. I said (inaudible) I have low testosterone (inaudible) no, 2016. That's how long ago. Brad Crowell 19:44  It's like almost 10 years (inaudible).Lesley Logan 19:45  And he told me I could get better testosterone in my body if I lifted weights so I was lifting heavy weights. I did all the things and like my testosterone was like just not becoming in the normal range. And over these years, again, like my last year's results, still not there and a lot of doctors, meanwhile, and they said, well, let's just wait and see because people don't want to put someone on testosterone if they don't need it, but like, what was happening is, I stopped feeling excited to work out. It was really hard for me to work out. I was, I work, some who goes to gym four days a week, and I was like, I was not able to pick up heavier weights. I was actually picking up lighter weights, like everything just felt hard in my body. And I was just getting really frustrated because I didn't have energy during the day, no energy during the day. And so anyways, when my test came back, and it said, my testosterone whas oh, surprise, surprise, oh, really low. And I described how my day felt she's like, yeah, babe, she's like, you do not have enough testosterone for you. And so then I also we went over, like how I was feeling in my cycle. I was like, I don't, I'm really frustrated. Because I'm, oh, I'm like, extreme, like, way too emotional before my cycle starts way like, to the point that like, I run a company and like, I don't want to be in my own meetings, because I don't want to be with me. Because me is not able to control her emotions the way that I want. Like, I feel like a crazy person trying to like control how I'm feeling. And then instead of it feeling better, when my cycle starts, it stayed emotional. And so my and she looked at my progesterone, she's like, Yeah, your professional results are saying the exact same thing. And so progesterone is supposed to be this really fun friend that comes in and just like makes you sleep really, really good. And I was not getting that. And so within two days, they sent me my prescription. It took a week for me to like feel a difference with the testosterone, which (inaudible). I am a new human and I think Brad can even test that I'm a new human. So anyways, I'm not saying that hormone therapy is what you need. What I am saying is I finally got doctors to listen to me and my blood test showed exactly how I was feeling so I was not crazy. My symptoms matched my test results. And I got a doctor I loved the the doctor you get with the telemedicine and she's phenomenal. I got a doctor who listened to me, encouraged me didn't make me feel crazy, like totally told me that there's going to be help and it's going to make me feel better. And then two weeks after that my sensitivity allergy test came back. And you guys I've been poisoning myself. So I've been poisoning myself. I am very sensitive to oats and been doing oat milk every day, sometimes twice a day and doing overnight oats and Brad Crowell 22:16  Loving those oat milk latte.Lesley Logan 22:17  Love, loving oak milk latte and we now make cashew milk, guys, we now make cashew milk. I also found out like what I'm highly sensitive to versus what I'm moderately sensitive to and what I'm allergic to which Brad and I discovered in April that I am allergic to mites like dust mites. Yup, yup. European and American, which explains why my nose runs when I'm in Europe. So, so anyways, like all that, I had all this information. And now I'm on a six-week journey of like trying to take all the things I'm sensitive to out of my life. I know tomatoes, tomatoes, garlic. Cherries are definitely out. But the strawberries and watermelon. Yep, there are two right now. So anyways, but here's the cool thing that the doctor explained to me is like some of these things might not be out forever, but they're out for right now until I like detox myself and then from them just by not doing them. And then in six, eight weeks, just given a test so I can see how I feel, just by doing it because maybe I just feel like not so great. And I'm like, whatever. It's a beautiful day, I want some strawberries, or I might feel like a complete bump on a log who doesn't want to move and then we know don't do it. But then you'll I'll be I'll make that decision for myself. And then just today before we got on this call, so I'm already feeling better. But I could tell I was feeling a bit better. The doctor is like, like, like going crazy and with joy because every time she sees me, I'm a even more energetic human of myself. She's like, because the first time she saw me, I like cried on the call. I was like I don't even I can't even tell you. I'm crying right now. I'm just crying because like, I'm just I don't have any more. There's nothing left of me right now. And you now and you're on this call. And ,and then then I buy when I saw her a few weeks later, just a few weeks later, I was already different person. And now here's a few more weeks later, and I am just like, okay, tell me what you got. What's going on? Like, I'm just like, I'm just so fired up about life. And my gut test came back and I, you guys, I was really stressing today because I was like, what if the gut test come back and there's nothing wrong, like they can't find anything. Like I was just like, oh my god, if they don't find anything, like I'm just a crazy person because I had so many doctors tell me I'm a crazy person for all the guts stuff I brought up before and for 15 years and she was like, okay, she's like, I'm just gonna be really honest. Your gut is got a lot going on. And we can fix it all. But this is probably one of the most the biggest cases I've seen I have a lot of lot of different things going on. And I was, explained to her what's going on with my bowel movements, what's going on with my gut how I felt in the day and on the test you can literally see okay, your bowel movements are like this because you have a parasite, Brad, I have a parasite. So already antibiotics are at the are waiting for me to pick up today. And then there's some other things that can be done with supplements. But what I am so excited about is in a few weeks, I'm going to feel like another better version of myself. And so I'm so excited ladies, I cannot stress enough, pick up the call and get on the phone with them. Just do it because here's the deal. I have spent years actively advocating for my health. It took me years actively advocating and you don't have to do yours to change your life. And I don't, to be it until you see it, you can have the best goals, the biggest passion, know your why, have all the strategies, have all the tools, and if your hormones or your gut are out of balance, it doesn't matter. It's really gonna be hard to be it till you see it.Brad Crowell 25:37  It's true. Yeah, especially just to maintain like consistency and be enthusiastic and excited. I mean, I can attest, I've seen a shift in your approach towards the day. So yeah.Speaker 1 25:51  The approach was, like, literally in a meeting, just like I'm like, oh, this is what we're gonna do. Like, it's just everything is just a lot more. Like, it just feels more possible. So beitpod.com/femgevity will get you a free consultation call. And that way you can meet with them, understand their plans, pick the one that's best for you. And look, here's the deal. Yes, we're paying out of like you pay out of pocket, but there's a lot of stuff that your insurance will cover if you have insurance and so, so it's kind of like going to another doctor is really what it is. But go check it out. Don't, don't turn yourself away right away. Brad Crowell 25:56  It's telehealth so. Lesley Logan 26:17  It's telehealth and honestly, like, I don't want to call the doctors off. I go to the doctor's office for my annual visit like pap smear and I just like, here we are sitting in a waiting room, you know, it is like so annoying. You just can't do that. I guess you can't do that on telemedicine. But you know, it's really nice what you can do and so, especially for my busy women listening, you are not too busy for this to work for you. Because they made it so easy for me. So I will also be going live I will have gone live with them. By the time this comes out. I go live with them on July 9, which is when their episode comes out. So, so, anyways, you can go see us talk on there if you want but use the link to get the free call.Brad Crowell 27:04  Okay, finally, let's talk about those be it action items what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Michele Wispelway? She said, we have choices here we have three distinct choices in life, these are your options, you either accept the thing, you change the thing, or you leave the thing. And we need to pick our own path, whatever the situation might be, whether it's a fight with your partner, or whether you're having health issues, you have to be very clear which one of those three things you're going to choose, accept it, change it, or leave it, right? And these are like rocks in your life. These three things are what you need to, remember this, we have a decision that we can make about all the things except to change it or leave it. Lesley Logan 27:49  Yeah, I love that. So, so simple, but hard. Yeah. Okay, so.Brad Crowell 27:55  What about you? Lesley Logan 27:55  Of course here we're going to talk about her Be It Action Items, she's stressed encouraging you look for doctors that are not just spot treating, we already talked about this, but this is your Be It Action Item. Is your doctor just spot-treating? Is your doctor not doing holistic testing? So if you have a doctor and you want to see like, will they do blood, stool and gut sensitivity testing all at once, because that should be what you're getting. Like you do a whole panel, and not just like a top thing it's like the whole panel, get it all. And if you and she said if your doctor doesn't, you should find another doctor. And I know that's really hard. I know we're really busy. But this is your health guys. And the US health system specific I can't speak to other ones does not do preventative well, it does, it treats you when you're sick, but doesn't want to do preventative. And there is information out there that if we have information early on, we can do preventative things to make your life better. And so that requires us to advocate for ourselves that requires us to like be on like aware of that and to be making actions for that. So she wants you to make sure that your doctors are going to do a complete full testing and if they're not find a new one. And you can also go to beitpod.com/femgevity for that. Brad Crowell 27:55  I love it. Well, hey, I'm really excited that we randomly connected with with this. Lesley Logan 29:10  They approached us and then I fell in love with her. And I fall in love with her doctor and they have their, I'm a client for life. They're stuck with me. Brad Crowell 29:18  Yeah, I think it's amazing. And thank you for being a listener here at the Be It Pod. We wouldn't do this if you didn't listen. So thanks for doing that.Lesley Logan 29:27  And did you notice this episode 392. So episode 400 is coming up and we have a very, very, very special guest. I might be as excited for that recap as I'm excited for this one. Now that I've said that I wasn't before now I am. And so make sure you take a look and send this to a friend if you've got a woman in your life who's struggling with some stuff with their health, send this to them because they feel crazy. They feel alone. They feel like they, they feel like they, like it's all in their head. They feel like no one will listen to them and like they need to know. Brad Crowell 29:27  When they did finally step out to get some test results. They were told they're fine. Lesley Logan 30:02  Yeah. Or they're told they have IBS. And I do, like, and you might, but also you probably don't, you probably just have some parasites and some gut digestive enzymes that need to be sorted out there. And so please, please, please send this to the friends you have who are struggling with perimenopause where they think they have perimenopause. Or they're struggling with any gut stuff. I need them to know. It's important that they know they're not alone. And it's really freaking hard to be the best version of yourself when you feel like shit. So this is this is my other PSA, listen to this and take some action towards your health because you are amazing. Thank you so much for listening. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 30:35  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 30:37  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.   Lesley Logan 30:37  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this episode, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell reflect on a recent conversation with Lauren Zoeller, an expert practitioner in somatic therapy and founder of The Aligned Love Experience™. Lauren underscores the transformative power of qualified somatic practitioners in accelerating healing and breaking free from destructive patterns. Listeners will delve into insights from Lauren's interview, including how to recognize trauma responses and implement practical steps for effective somatic self-assessment. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Explanation of somatics as the language of the nervous system. How somatics differs from traditional talk therapy and its approach.The unhealthy cycle of codependency in therapy and coaching. How to do a somatic check-ins to monitor your body's responses. Recognize trauma as urgency and learn to slow down and be present.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer TourBalanced Body and ContrologyElevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 Retreat40 Days of Pilates for $40Balanced Body and ContrologyLauren Zoeller WebsiteLauren Zoeller on InstagramAligned Love PodcastAligned Love Collective ExperienceEpisode 183 with Dr. Kelly BenderEpisode 376 with Jenny SchatzleEpisode 131 with Lauren ZoellerEpisode 132 Lauren Zoeller RecapEpisode 22 The Aligned Love  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  I think what I like about these, it's not about having an answer. It's about just getting into your body and just notice how you're feeling and then like taking a moment to your present because that is where we can actually make true be it till you see it moments in our life is when we're not trying to respond from trauma. Lesley Logan 0:17  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the relieving convo I have with Lauren Zoeller in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you should listen to it. You should listen to this one or you listen to this one and that one and then listen to the one I was on hers. Because Brad and I are both on hers. So you can just hear Lauren and Brad and my voices in your ear all day today. Brad Crowell 1:18  It's true. Lesley Logan 1:19  And you should. Lauren was first on the pod in Episode 131 and 132. Holy moly. That's like 160 episodes later. Well. Brad Crowell 1:30  It's been a minute. Lesley Logan 1:31  It's been a minute. Okay, so we'll get into Lauren and her awesomeness. And my ladies who want to learn more about your relationships and like how you feel the way you feel, that's what we're talking about. So stick around. But today is July 4th 2024 and it's the fourth of July. Thank you, Brad. Thank you for writing it out one way. Brad Crowell 1:47  July 4th is the fourth of July. Lesley Logan 1:50  It's totally only applicable to Americans. And, you know, sometimes it feels like a not great holiday anymore. But don't worry, we're positive around here. We're really excited. It's one of the biggest national holidays. Americans come together on July 4 to celebrate the nation's birthday and Independence Day. On this day, most Americans enjoy grills in their backyards, at beaches, or in parks. Some partake in parades or marches and enjoy the fireworks that are often launched at dusk. We kick off the festivities with details, trivia, and anything else you need to know about Independence Day. Happy Fourth! This website that we get all the descriptions of the holidays, this is the most bland description of what happens on the fourth. If you live in our neighborhood, everyone does their own firework situation. It is chaos. And our dogs are really chill. Our dogs do not mind. So we're at the pool today. Just so you know. We are at the pool with some of our podcasting friends actually. So some of the people who've been on the show Neda, Michael, couple others are all there. So we're just you know, hanging out on the fourth. Brad Crowell 2:49  Take it a holiday.Lesley Logan 2:50  And but other things are coming up that you need to know about is Summer Tour is one month away, we kick it off on August 4th. And most of the cities, many of the cities, workouts are sold out, the workshops are getting closed. So you want to go to opc.me/tour Brad Crowell 3:04  opc.me/tour Lesley Logan 3:05  To snag your spot. And also spots, if you want to come to two cities, some people are doing that, I can't wait to see them. It's called the groupies. It's the groupie rule. And also, our tour is powered by Balanced Body, which means we'll be bringing our Contrology Reformer, you could try that out. You could win a gift certificate to Balanced Body and Contrology. And by the way, you can still use my affiliate link when you use that gift certificate so, just saying, you might want to win that. The eLevate applications are going to open up in literally four days. And so if you're listening to this in real time to get your booty over to that waitlist, if you're wanting to find out more information, it's lesleylogan.co/elevate. And I spell my name L-E-S-L-E-Y because that's what you actually spell Lesley. And to the Leslies with they I out there, you're fine too (inaudible).Brad Crowell 3:48  Yeah, eLevate as a nine month long mentorship program for Pilates teachers who want to really dig in more classically, classical Pilates and connect all the dots across all the different pieces of equipments, stop class planning, all the things. Lesley Logan 4:04  Yeah, it's really amazing. Our fourth round has actually just finished their fourth out of five weekend. And it's just so cool to see how much they have changed in their teaching in their practice and how their understanding exercises. It's just really beautiful to see their growth. So yeah, we'll have a week for you to apply. And we are only taking 12 people in a group so you know, get on the waitlist and be quick on the application. Cambodia Retreat, October is super sold out. But February has spots in it and there's some amazing women already signed up. They're already getting excited. We have some great people I just can't even wait for that February one as well. So that's crowsnestretreats.com. Brad Crowell 4:45  Yeah, and lastly we got OPC. We want you to try out OPC we got a special offer just for you. This is the best offer that you're gonna get anywhere, 40 days for $40. It's a dollar a day y'all go to opc.me/40, opc.me/40.Lesley Logan 5:06  And you can keep coming into our community, you get to meet our crew, you get to, and in 40 days you'll have (inaudible) two different monthly themes, you'll be able to try out more than like five weeks of weekly themes, you can get your feedback on your form, and you come to a live class. You get to experience a true OPC membership in those 40 days. It's a dollar a day, we just found out that that's cheaper than a lemon, just so you know, that's cheaper than if you bought a lemon for every day. It's cheaper than that.Brad Crowell 5:31  How about that? Before we actually get into Lauren, we had a question today from Jaravia from YouTube. Thanks for asking Jaravia. What is the most beneficial reformer for core strength development? Should I get a basic one, a Tower or a Cadillac? Take it away, Lesley. Lesley Logan 5:51  So ideally, you don't buy a Reformer combined with anything in the most perfect sense of the world, you would have a Reformer, and you would have a Cadillac. And that would be like my dream for you. Okay, and it'd be a Contrology ideally, an 80 inch, just saying. Use our, use our discount link. But if you are looking for a combo equipment then I would do the Reformer Tower from Contrology. I do not like a reformer combined with a Cadillac. Okay, they are too high. So the Reformer is actually much higher off of the ground. So the little scarier, you cannot mount you cannot do a lot of the setups for the exercise the same way that you would, the bars are in the way so you got to do coordination and your legs are like opening up into bars. You, like you're constantly having to get your head through these bars. So I don't love that. So if you're going to do a combo, I would do a Tower Reformer combo, not a Cadillac Reformer combo. If you're asking like, should I get the tower or the Cadillac? I'm going to say Cadillac if you have the space because honestly, it's the best. But if you don't, or if price is a thing, then a wall unit is really amazing. Super, super great Contrology will have a wall unit out pretty soon. That's my vote for you.Lesley Logan 5:58  There you go. I love it. Well, if you have a question for us, you can ask it through DMs on Instagram or you can text us at 310-905-5534. Stick around we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 7:20  Okay, now let's talk about Lauren Zoeller. Speaker, author, host of The Aligned Love podcast and Founder of The Aligned Love Experience™, Lauren is a somatic and relationship expert who emphasizes understanding the body's responses to trauma. She advocates for recognizing these responses and encourages individuals to learn the language of their nervous system to break free from unhealthy patterns and find healthy relationships. Lesley Logan 7:47  Yeah, and she does relationships not just with love, but like at work with your work, with money, we have lots of relations in our life and how you treat one is how you treat a lot of them. So she kind of works with a lot of those things. I love a lot of the things that she said and we're gonna get into some other really, really good ones because you like those ones that I like too. To explain somatics, I think, is the best way to go into this podcast. It's like somatics is the language of the nervous system. And so it's like how your nervous system is sharing how it feels about things. And sometimes we can't articulate with how we're feeling we just don't feel right. And that's what's gonna be what somatics is, the language of your nervous system. And it's a language that a lot of us were never taught to speak, a lot of us were not taught to feel our feelings or like I was told like children should be seen not heard. So you'd be like sniffling, crying. It's like, hey, suck it up. But once you know the language of your nervous system, she said, You can shift the way you relate to anything in your life. And so she's worked with a lot of leaders, mostly women, and she was able to like really help them express their frustration. So it's just really cool to see how somatics can work because especially if you've done a lot of talk therapy, you've done a lot of like, you know, life coaching and like things haven't changed, and you're just in the same cycle. It sounds like what you need is somatics so you can actually understand your nervous system. What it's trying to tell you.Brad Crowell 9:08  Yeah, yeah. So the, the language of the nervous system, and I think it's good to understand that, when she's talking about it just sounded like oh, I don't know what it just sounds like therapy, right? But the thing that I liked, where she was talking about somatics is it's more than it's like the sum of it all is what it is, right? So there are different forms of therapy and somatics incorporates all different parts. So she wasn't knocking talk therapy. She said that's one piece of it, but it's only like 20% of it. You know and so there's more to it. And that's what I thought was really intriguing that there's a bigger (inaudible).Lesley Logan 9:49  And also, like, to truly do what she does, it's like eight years of like it's many, many years of training. This is not like you do this on a weekend, you guys, so like Brad Crowell 9:58  I got certified.Lesley Logan 9:59  So be mindful when like, working or looking at people who are doing somatics because it's becoming a hot thing right now is like I do somatics. And it's like, you know, it's not just your breathwork person who did a weekend course, like, you really want to find someone who is truly aligned because when you are doing somatic work, their shift can be like, it's important. So, I really appreciate how much training and studying she constantly does and how much she's done it already.Brad Crowell 10:25  Yeah, Lauren, also has a team of coaches, and they're all certified. So, yep, that's pretty awesome. Well, she also dug into this idea of being stuck forever in the therapy or the coaching. And she said, it's actually unhealthy. She said that, there's got to be a point where we are at a place where we can manage it ourselves without still being in the program, or still having a coach or, you know, and I can't remember if it was you or her who mentioned, you know, imagine going to college and never been allowed to graduate, like that just, there's no logic to that the way like, you start it, you take it, you pass, and then you leave.Lesley Logan 11:05  You know, I heard that I heard it from a cult podcast that I listen to.Brad Crowell 11:10  That was you. Lesley Logan 11:12  Because they were like, you, you get into a course program. And then they say, continue to have more and more courses that you need to buy to get closer and closer to God or the source or the leader or whatever it is, then like, you know, that's not healthy, that's a cult.Brad Crowell 11:26  Well, and she, she kind of laughed when she said it like this is probably bad for my business to say that there's a place where you should be able to move on, because, you know, but I think it's true, you know, and she started to talk about codependency and how people get stuck in the rut of the therapy, or the meetings, there's actually something called Codependents Anonymous, or, obviously, we've all heard Alcoholics Anonymous, or all these other things. Or maybe it is just the talk therapy, or maybe it's a codependency in relationships with someone that you're with. Right? And she started to talk about how, especially in the coaching world, we've kind of built into our programs the idea that people should stick around forever, right, stay with me forever. nd she said, we've been building really deep codependencies. I mean, we, if we're doing it that way, then we as coaches aren't necessarily doing our jobs. Lesley Logan 12:22  Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true. Yeah, I also, before we get into our Be It Action Items, I just want to say like we also did a whole talk about the like the responses which is like the fight–fight, flight, fright and fun. (Inaudible) Yes. and fun is something a lot of women end up doing. It's a very people-pleasing, like, let me fix this thing. And I, so I highly encourage you to go listen to that whole segment on the pod because the way she explains it is really amazing. And when you start to learn how a your response is, it really helps you again, learn the language of your nervous system. Oh, I'm fawning right now. It's a little like, hello.Brad Crowell 13:04  That was a new one for me. I knew about, obviously, we've all heard of fight or flight. Freeze makes sense and then fawn was new. And I think we talked about that a few weeks ago, actually on the pod. But yeah, awesome. Okay, stick around. Brad Crowell 13:18  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Lauren Zoeller? Well, we were talking about learning the language of the nervous system, or actually that somatics is the language of the nervous system. So how do we learn that language? And she had a very methodical approach to learning this language. And she said, set a timer, you're going to do a somatic check in. She said, like every three hours, do it for a week, right? And she said, what, what you're going to do is pull out a pen and paper, you're gonna document the sensations and emotions that you're feeling at the time that it goes off. Right, so open your phone's Notes app, write the sensations and emotions that are present in your body, and then document what you were doing when it went off. She said, avoid rationalizing, this is important. She specifically did not say if you do explain why you're feeling those emotions, or sensations, just that you are write them down, and then focus solely on documenting what sensations, what emotions were present and what you were doing at the moment. That's it. That's all. Right? And she said, what this does is after a week it allows you to understand, you know, where your nervous system is, on a moment-to-moment basis. So if you're, maybe you're commuting, right, or maybe you're working or maybe you're at lunch, or maybe you're with the family, or maybe you're cooking dinner or whatever, and if you're doing this on a consistent schedule. Throughout the week, you can start to see how come every time I'm at work, you know, sweating, I'm like freaking out or I'm like feeling, feeling it in my chest or whatever, you know, start to identify those things. And then you're going to be equipping yourself with a different type of language around, you know, and a different perspective around how you're doing what you're doing. And that will lead to why you're doing it that way. You know, she has some resources available, you know, to help dig into this a little bit more. So we'll be putting that in the show notes. What about you? What was your biggest takeaway?Lesley Logan 13:38  She brought up like, discuss, like trauma as an urgency, which is a fight and action response like, so if you are trying to have instant gratification or you're, you're wanting things to like, happen over, overnight success, it's actually can lead to further trauma. So I know I'm someone who like need, like, Lauren and I are very similar. We just went a week together. And like, we like to know the answer now. Like right now, like, let's just know that now it's almost, I feel better if we've like, made a decision, you know, which is instant gratification that can just be a trauma response. And, and so she said, the things that are meant to be savored in life and make your life robust, are the ones where you actually slow down. And so she said, or, like, were able to build a space, like build it from a space of true presence and being grounded. So if you are like trying to make decisions from an instant spot, like take action kind of a thing, it can actually be, it can actuallyBrad Crowell 15:32  She said it's a trauma response. Lesley Logan 15:41  Yeah. Yeah. So it's your nervous system telling you like, I'm like, I'm activated right now. And so part of how you relate to things like let me just do this right now. But she's like really trying to get you to like, based on the other Be It Action, I'm like, take a moment. And just notice how you're feeling and not make and not make a reason, which is very hard for people to do. And we had Dr. Bender on. And she said, try not to reason with how you're feeling. Just notice how you're feeling because we're often wrong. So but what she then said is like, so when you're feeling an urgent need for immediate results, or instant gratification, recognize it's trauma response. And then in order to break the pattern, slow down and focus on being present, which is really hard to do. Brad Crowell 17:09  It's hard. Lesley Logan 17:09  It's really hard to do. So I just want to shout in Jenny Schatzle had a breathing exercise that we had in another Be It another Be It Action Item just a few weeks ago. Maybe it was a month ago at this point. Her breathing where we did see others just inhale exhale. That was it. That was it. That was her thing. So try that to get yourself present. So combine these two. And just, you know, I think what I like about this is that it's not about having an answer. It's about just getting into your body and just notice how you're feeling. And then like taking a moment to your present because that is where we can actually make true, be it till you see it moments in our life is when we're not trying to respond from trauma.Brad Crowell 17:54  Yeah, if you want to go back to that episode with Jenny, it's episode 376. Lesley Logan 17:59  Yeah. So I mean, Lauren's right. If you haven't yet listened to her first episodes on the pod, I highly recommend going back to those 131 and 132. And then, if you want to hear about Brad and I, and our aligned love on her podcast, you can do that on The Aligned Love podcast. Brad Crowell 18:15  Yeah, we'll put the link to her pod in the show notes. You can find it wherever pods are found, The Aligned Love. Well, anyway, it was super fun to have Lauren join us first, in person in Vegas, but also in-person in Nashville (inaudible).Lesley Logan 18:31  We spent more days with her in a week than we have seen her ever in life. So yeah, but you know, she's fabulous. She's family. And so I'm just really grateful that she does what she does because a lot of people need it. And she's, you know, changing lives out there. So I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 18:46  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 18:48  Thank you so much for joining us today. You are amazing. In case you didn't remember in case someone told you that you are incredible and awesome. And we're so grateful for you. And if you haven't left a review for this podcast, please do it. Brad Crowell 18:57  Do it. Lesley Logan 18:58  That would be a really great gift to me. It's also a great way for you to be present. You could take note of what you learned from this episode. Brad Crowell 19:03  It would be a great gift to me, too. Lesley Logan 19:05  Yeah, great gift to Brad. You know Brad needs to get, his birthday's coming up, everyone. Leave a review for his birthday. (Inaudible) It is. So and then share this with a friend who needs. If you got a friend who's like you know, as one of those people who's just like acting out of trauma sometimes you're like, Oh, you can see it. Sometimes you can see others and we can see it in ourselves. Send this to them because you don't have to tell them what to do. You can just let them learn about it on their own. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 19:27  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 19:29  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.Lesley Logan 19:56  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 20:11  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 20:16  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 20:21  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 20:28  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 20:31  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Ready to transform your life? Lesley and Brad recap powerful takeaways from the interview with fitness professionals and motivational speakers Danny-J Johnson and Jill Coleman, co-hosts of The Best Life podcast. Learn how these inspiring women overcame personal hardships to empower others and discover actionable steps to heal past trauma, kill your ego, and become your best self. Plus, get expert tips on using Pilates flashcards in your practice. Tune in for an empowering and educational episode you won't want to miss!If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to take action, ownership, and responsibility in your life.Understanding why transformation is a slow, steady process.Jill Coleman's principle of making decisions as your future self.Insights into freeze responses and how to overcome them.Practical tips on letting go of the ego and embracing personal growth.Episode References/Links:Summer TourBalanced Body and ContrologyElevate Mentorship ProgramCambodia February 2025 RetreatFebruary 2025 RetreatMat FlashcardsEgo is the Enemy by Ryan HolidayThe Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck by Mark MansonIf Book Could Kill PodcastThe Best Life PodcastThe Best Life Podcast InstagramDanny-J Johnson InstagramJill Coleman WebsiteJill Coleman Instagram  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  When they made the decision I can control what I can do, that's what really gave them the power to move on with their own lives. And then, now, today, kick ass and take names. It's one of those moments when you're forced to realize that you can't control what other people think, say and do. That sucks. It's really, really probably a hard thing. But you're gonna be better for it.Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:03  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the liberating convo I had with Danny-J Johnson and Jill Coleman. I think the J is for Johnson. Brad Crowell 1:14  J is for Johnson. So you just call her Danny-J. Danny-J and Jill Coleman.Lesley Logan 1:15  In our last episode, if you haven't yet listened to that interview, go back and listen to it. These women are badass as they're so fun and they're doing amazing things. And I just, I like, I love watching their stories all the time. So anyways, you can listen to that now or you can listen to this now and you can listen to that later, it's fine. You can do whatever order you want. If you're listening to it in the OPC app, which is free by the way, you can actually just see them lined up with each other, makes it super easy because I'm just gonna say a certain fruit phone does not make it easy to figure out which episode to listen to, in which order because it just automatically downloads the next one and you like are out of order sometimes.Brad Crowell 1:18  It's true. Lesley Logan 1:26  I'm just saying. Brad Crowell 1:54  That's true. That's happened. Lesley Logan 1:55  So today is June 27th 2024 and it's PTSD Awareness Day. About this day, on June 27 we talk about PTSD, a complex disorder caused by experiencing or witnessing trauma. The trauma necessary to cause PTSD can originate from many events — potentially an accident, combat, a natural disaster, or an assault — but there are other ways PTSD symptoms can arise. A trained professional must diagnose PTSD, based on symptoms like hypervigilance, mood swings, recurring and involuntary flashbacks to the trauma, and avoidance. The National Center for PTSD declared all of June to be PTSD Awareness month — you can help their campaign by educating yourself and others about the illness, and sharing help with those who might need it. Very important. We have been trying to get my dad some help for his PTSD, which he is like in denial that he has, and we're like, here are all how (inaudible)Brad Crowell 2:45  Here are all the symptoms that we're self-diagnosing you in but yeah, one of them is not sleeping, you know, and all like all sorts of different things like that (inaudible). PTSD is post-traumatic stress disorder. But this is actually something that has been reallyLesley Logan 3:01  But it's not just for people who've been in combat, you can have PTSD from from a car accident, like they said, or an assault or natural disaster. Brad Crowell 3:08  You can certainly have PTSD from those things as well. You know, any traumatic experience can create that, can create PTSD. The very first movie I ever acted in was about PTSD. Lesley Logan 3:21  Really? Brad Crowell 3:22  Yeah.Lesley Logan 3:22  That's interesting.Brad Crowell 3:23  Yeah. I was, I was working at a film school and one of the students who was a, becoming a director, did an entire movie about it, and he cast me in one of the parts. Lesley Logan 3:34  That's so, it's so cool. I had no idea you were ever in a movie. I know, a lot of first ones. So, there's others.Brad Crowell 3:41  So yeah, there were. One of my really close friends was in the military, multiple tours in the military. And then obviously, like you said, you know, Lesley, Lesley's dad. So, you know, lots of family and friends. Lesley Logan 3:55  Yeah, so I think like, it's really important to make sure that they have the help that they want, they might not be able, it's really easy. I find like my dad would say like, he didn't have as bad as other people. So he, so I think it's really easy for people to compare their own experiences to someone else's and, and make it smaller, like (inaudible). Yeah. So like, it's not PTSD, because, I can't have it because it wasn't as bad as this person, but you can have it. And I read this amazing book, what happened to you, which also explains like based on how you were raised as an infant, your resiliency levels, and it's possible that like, you might not have those tools from being so young, that you might have PTSD over on something that someone else who's sitting right next to you might not have had it on. So like it's so important to not belittle it or shame yourself, please get help or help someone in your life who has it, like find out the areas in you're in your communities that can help them. Brad Crowell 4:52  Yeah. Lesley Logan 4:53  All right. Brad Crowell 4:54  Coming up. Lesley Logan 4:54  Coming up. We're a little over a month away from leaving for our sixth tour, our Summer Tour powered by Balanced Body. We're so excited. Brad Crowell 5:03  That is crazy. Lesley Logan 5:04  I know. It's so, it's great. It's our sixth tour. It's our second Summer Tour. It's our third tour powered by Balanced Body and Contrology. And that allows us to do lots of, lots of cities we probably wouldn't be able to do and meet some incredible people. So we're doing 13 cities. Let's see. Here we go. Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, Denver, Lincoln, Nebraska, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Ohio, Dayton, Ohio, Indy, Kansas City.Brad Crowell 5:33  Kansas City.Lesley Logan 5:34  St. Louis, Colorado Springs. Brad Crowell 5:36  That's right. Lesley Logan 5:37  Way, I did a great job.Brad Crowell 5:38  Slayed it, slayed it. Lesley Logan 5:39  I slayed it. I do wonder if I got the St. Louis and Kansas City in the right order. Because but I just don't actually know. Brad Crowell 5:45  So actually, St. Louis, I thinkLesley Logan 5:46  Is first I don't really know (inaudible). You know, the middle of the map is confusing, like Nebraska is more North than I thought. So.Brad Crowell 5:46  Yeah. St. Louis is east of Kansas City. Lesley Logan 5:52  Okay, so then that definitely has a (inaudible). Go to opc.me/tour to get your tickets because it is selling really fast. And we are not hitting (inaudible) any of them. We're not hitting most, most of them again on the winter tour. And our summer tour will not be these cities. So. Brad Crowell 6:13  Actually, none of these will be on the winter tour. Lesley Logan 6:14  Oh, we're not doing St. Louis either. Are we doing Denver? Maybe.Brad Crowell 6:19  Man, that's debatable. Lesley Logan 6:21  That's debatable. Okay, so just know that it's possible. We won't hit any of these cities again, including Las Vegas. Who knows? Brad Crowell 6:27  That's true. Lesley Logan 6:28  Yeah. So OPC.me/tour to get your tickets. Yes, you can come to multiple events do not worry about like, oh, I want to make sure (inaudible), come to ones you want to come to. I mean, some of these are only two hours apart. So like come party with us, come home with the dogs. There's lots of fun prizes. elevate applications are probably open right now. And the reason I say probably is because at the time of recording we have not picked the dates but they open for two weeks. And I want to say it's now because I'm pretty sure the following week is when I'm doing the call. So let's just say they are open. You want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevate, it is my mentorship for Pilates instructors. So if you're not a Pilates instructor this is gibberish to you. If you are a Pilates instructor, this is a master's program, mentorship program, it allows us to spend nine months together really diving deep into the method and ditching the imposter syndrome, ditching the over talking, ditching the hours of prepping, and really helping you connect to your practice, connect to your teaching and also this method. So lesleylogan.co/elevate, I can only take 12 people per group. So just so you know, the next one would be 2026. Brad Crowell 7:28  Right.Lesley Logan 7:29  Yeah. So (inaudible)Brad Crowell 7:29  This enrollment would be for 2025 kicking off in January. So yeah, so don't sit on that one. Next up, we got Cambodia. February 2025. We are taking an amazing group of women with us so far. There may be aLesley Logan 7:30  A few good men.Brad Crowell 7:45  There may be a few good men coming with us too. But there are room for that. Lesley Logan 7:50  You can bring your partners. Brad Crowell 7:52  Yeah, we actually have a ticket specifically for the experience only for people who are like, hey, Pilates isn't my thing. But I want to go do the trip. Absolutely. Welcome to join us. Anyway, go to crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com. Lesley Logan 8:05  If you keep saying I'm going to the next one, I'm gonna go to the next one. Take this one, as we learned from Kel Cal. Brad Crowell 8:12  Yeah, that's right.Lesley Logan 8:13  Tomorrow doesn't exist, only today does. And so there are future trips don't exist yet. Just the ones we've got planned.Brad Crowell 8:19  That's true. That's true. Very, very true. Lesley Logan 8:21  Very unlikely. Brad Crowell 8:22  Why would you come to Cambodia with us? I'll tell you it is an experience of a lifetime. And I don't say that as like a, as like aLesley Logan 8:32  Every one of our retreaters has, like, I'm gonna come back like it's Brad Crowell 8:35  In fact, we've had multiple retreaters join us more than one time. It is just an incredible, incredible trip. The people are lovely. The environment is incredible. The jungles, the temples, I'm not even kidding you, it's The Jungle Book in real life. We literally get to walk around these incredible temples. You know, we're allowed to walk on them, around them, in them through them. It's, I, it's just mind-boggling. We get to eat incredible food. We practice Pilates, we build relationships and friends and fun. We get to go do a lotus farm we get to go like actually on a pond with all these amazing lotus and see the process (inaudible). There's so many incredible experiences in this trip. It is, I think of all the things that we do, what we do a lot, this is hands down my absolute favorite thing to do. And when we are retired someday, I will still do this. Lesley Logan 9:29  Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. It's part of the retirement plan. So crowsnestretreats.com, crowsnestretreats.com Brad Crowell 9:38  That's plural, crowsnestretreats.com. Lesley Logan 9:41  Yeah. All right. And lastly, in case you didn't know, all of this happens because of onlinepilatesclasses.com. And if you are not a member yet, we want to know why. But also we want you to try it out.Brad Crowell 9:53  Yeah, go join us. Lesley Logan 9:54  Yeah, it's OPC.me/40 it gives you a 40-day trial for only $1 a day. So 40 days for $40. And why are we doing 40 days? Because the reality is, is that like, it does take time to start something new. And it's not that it takes 40 days to (inaudible) happen in two days. But also like, we want you to experience two different monthly themes and multiple weekly classes and potentially join us for a live class and get feedback on your form and meet the community. So we want you to be able to have all the amazing experiences because we know that if you do that, you are an OPC life for like so many of our members. So OPC.me/40 for the best, most amazing community in the Pilates world. All right, before we get into Danny-J and Jill Coleman's episode, do we have an audience, a listener question, Mr. Brad?Brad Crowell 10:41  We sure do. Today, Tamara Gomez wrote in and she said she's hesitant to reach out with this question and really tried to figure it out on her own but for a 30-minute Pilates class how many cards would you pick out from your mat Pilates flashcard deck. I'm having a hard time designing the class around the amount of time that I choose. Lesley Logan 11:05  Yeah. So if you haven't yet gotten our mat flashcards, you should get them.Brad Crowell 11:09  Yeah, go to opc.me/flashcards. Lesley Logan 11:12  Yeah. So here's the thing. When Joseph Pilates created his mat work, if you did it on your own, and really, even if you're advanced, it takes you under 30 minutes to do all the cards. Brad Crowell 11:21  All of it. Lesley Logan 11:21  All of that. Brad Crowell 11:22  Yeah. That's gonna be two exercises in the official. Lesley Logan 11:24  I had someone reach out to me on YouTube going, can you create a 50-minute beginner workout on the Tower, Wunda Chair, a 50-minute on the reformer and 50-minute on the mat for beginners. I said, no, it's impossible. There's not even enough beginner exercises on each one, even if I combined them all together it wouldn't be 50 minutes. So like, no, without knowing the level of your class, I'm just going to assume they're all levels. So I'll have a class. So you probably will take out any of the overhead exercises, just be say, on the safe side. And so you'd be left with about 26-27 cards left, that actually could be 30-minute class right there. And if you just leave them in the order that they're in, it already has a set of action transition for you. So you don't have to do any work. You don't have to like reorder it at all. Now if you wanted to shuffle them, and like treat it like a tarot deck and see what comes next. You totally can there's nothing wrong with that. But I would say about 20 to 27 cards would be a 30-minute class without a problem. Brad Crowell 12:19  Yeah. And that's if you're not moving quick. Which was why I was laughing. Do you remember the year that we were at momentum fast and all the teachers were doing the close-out? Yeah, well, how many minutes? Did they give you? Five? Ten? Ten minutes. So and.Lesley Logan 12:33  And people were doing huggy and stretchy and Kumbaya and like all this and like they were you know, just all this stuff. And I was (inaudible), what are you gonna teach? And I was like, well, clearly, I'm gonna do some Pilates because I have it hasn't happened yet. So I just did the whole order.Brad Crowell 12:50  In ten minutes.Lesley Logan 12:51  In ten minutes.Brad Crowell 12:52  Ten minutes.Lesley Logan 12:53  I think I did it in less than that, because I'm pretty good at it. We did one rep of everything in under 10 minutes. The whole thing. And that's when I coined you can crab sooner than you think. And people loved it. And they all crab sooner than they were ready. And also they had done like 14 or 15 events over two days. They were like so sore. They're like, oh, but also like they all did it. And I was so proud of them. So, anyway, Tamara, I hope that helps. Brad Crowell 13:17  Great question. Lesley Logan 13:17  Great question. Thanks for getting the cards also, it really means a lot to me. I love that you use them to class plan. I love that it's helping you nerd out. And if you have any questions, you guys, about the flashcards you can certainly ask us. You can also go to opc.me/flashcards and you'll see all of the decks. Our fifth deck is in print as we speak.Brad Crowell 13:36  Yeah. It's gonna be released this summer. I guess technically it's summer. It'll be released in August or I guess could it be in September? We'll see how the printer is going. I'm pushing for August. Lesley Logan 13:47  He's pushing for August. I'm realistically saying September. I don't like disappointing people. If you have a question you want us to an swer we can answer anything. It doesn't have to be Pilates, it can be all the different things, we have different guests on, so feel free to send your questions in.Brad Crowell 13:59  (Inaudible) ask about all my amazing hats that I wear. Lesley Logan 14:02  Brad really does change his hats and he hopes you notice.Brad Crowell 14:05  But if you only watch on YouTube, then you'll see it. You can DM us on the gram or you can text us at 310-905-5534 to ask your questions. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 14:20  Okay, now let's talk about Danny-J. And Jill Coleman. Danny-J and Jill, co-hosts of The Best Life podcast, began their careers as personal trainers and fitness competitors. They bonded over shared experiences of discovering their husband's infidelities and their evolving views of fitness and nutrition. They aim to help women feel less alone. embrace change and let go of past identities to become the person they are meant to be. Yeah, and I I knew, I knew that story, (inaudible) but I forgot that story. Yeah, I totally forgot that story and, and listening to them rehash that, the experience of how a how they met and how their podcast came to be, was, was a little bit sad, but also a little bit amazing because it brought the two of them together. And, you know, they've been really close friends now for many years because of that. Yeah. Lesley Logan 15:17  Yeah, I think so I think like, I don't know, every time we say this, somebody gets mad and goes, I didn't want my dog to die, that nothing's good gonna come with that. But like, really, everything does happen for a reason, like, good, like you, there's, it's something is going to come out of this new journey that you're having. So this sucks that they are both cheated on. But they ended up having this new, amazing friendship. And now look, they both have amazing dudes that they are with. So like it all, it all works out, and they probably would not be where they are had it not happen. I really love that they share their story. And I love that Jill said you can't control what your spouse and other people in your life are doing. But you can always control what you decide to do. And we decide to make of it. Brad Crowell 16:02  What you decide to do and what you decide to make of it. Lesley Logan 16:04  Yes. So she went, like, that's what like Danny-J did by moving to L.A. and that was really, really hard for her to, the hard part of her life, hard time in her life. And so, but she was able to take some action. And then I liked that they talked about like always being focused on moving forward. So taking action, taking ownership and taking responsibility. So like we talked about like, you know why they started their podcast, but where they are today. And that's part of like, they're taking action, they're focused on moving forward, they're taking ownership and responsibility. It's not easy to do. Like we make mistakes all the time. And we kind of get embarrassed, but you feel like you can take responsibility for the things that go on in your life and how you can control what you're gonna do in that situation.Brad Crowell 16:46  We've definitely talked about this before that you can't control what others think and say and do. You can only control your own actions. And the way that you think, you know, in this case, it was it was really challenging for both Danny-J and for Jill to to empower themselves as their relationships or after their relationships. As they were ending or after their relationships. When they finally realized there's no change, the guys in the relationship, were not interested in fixing it. And both Danny-J and Jill couldn't, you have no control over them, right? So you can't change what they're going to say and do. Even though you felt like you guys have made a decision together to commit to each other, to do all these things, this is actually really challenging for me, because this is literally what happened to me, too, where I was pushing, pushing, pushing, pushing to fix it. And my ex finally said, I don't want to fix it, I will not fix it. And that was really shocking for me. Because why did we even do this in the first place? You know, and that was really, really hard for me to wrap my head around, you know, and I, just listening to their stories that made me kind of relive that a little bit in my of my own story and, you know, relate to them a little bit. And when they made the decision, I can control what I can do. That's what really gave them the power to move on with their own lives. And then now today, kick ass and take names. It's one of those moments when you're forced to realize that you can't control what other people think, say and do. That sucks. It's really, really probably a hard thing. But you're going to be better for it. Lesley Logan 18:22  Yeah, yeah. Brad Crowell 18:24  One of the things that Danny Jay was talking about, was that transformation actually comes slowly. Sometimes it comes slowly, to the point where you don't even notice it. This was after the, you know, after the separation with her ex. She said the last couple of years have been challenging for her. She, her mom passed away, she has like some people broke at her house. You know, she.Lesley Logan 18:51  She was robbed in Mexico twice.Brad Crowell 18:53  Oh, it was, it was in Mexico. That's right. Sorry.Lesley Logan 18:55  I don't know. And I think she was brought up there (inaudible). Brad Crowell 18:57  I thought there was one in Vegas? Lesley Logan 18:58  But there was twice in one week in Mexico. Brad Crowell 19:00  Yeah. And then she, she actually did have she does have PTSD, from childhood trauma. And, you know, she got stuck in a couple of interesting places to that. So she, you know, she decided to start really tackling that internally. She did ketamine, and she's done a lot of therapy sessions. And one therapy, one therapist told Danny something that I thought was, was interesting for me, because we've all heard of fight or flight, right? Or it's like the two things like you're, you're either running or you're fighting. Well, there's a third one that nobody ever talks about. And that's freezing.Lesley Logan 19:40  There's also fawn. There's a fourth. Fawn, a lot of women will fawn. So fawn Brad Crowell 19:46  F-A-W-N?Lesley Logan 19:47  Yeah. Brad Crowell 19:47  I didn't even know that.Lesley Logan 19:48  Yeah, so fawn is like it hap- Megan Fox talks about this when she was abused in a relationship. She was abused and what she did was like fawn which is like it's okay, you're okay. Don't worry, that was my fault, you start to make them feel better and you kind of like, not Damsel, but like you, the way to take control of the situation is to kind of like, it's not to yight back or do nothing. It's the play, yes, yeah.Brad Crowell 20:14  Yeah, this is really hilarious. I was actually going to tell a story about my fight, flight, or I experienced the third one, freeze. When I was camping when I was a kid. I was up in the upstate Pennsylvania, in the, in the woods, like hardcore in the middle of the woods. I was with the scouts and the Scoutmaster said, hey, there are bears here. So, you know, don't carry around food. Don't be stupid. If you see a bear, you know, get loud, right? And my friend decided to play a joke on me. I was adamant that I could walk through the campsite without using a flashlight, because I like night vision and being able to see the stars and stuff. And I was coming back down from my tent to the camp to like the big camp area where all the people are. And he snuck out from behind a tree on all fours pretending to be an animal. And I, I found out what I would do now moving forward, I would freeze and do nothing. Because that's what I did. I was like, like what? You know, and, and so I just looked up, fight, flight, fight, freeze, and fawn. And the examples that they came up with are all about a bear flight, run away from the bear, fight, fight the bear, freeze, play dead, fawn, keep the bear happy. And so I didn't know that. That's actually really, really interesting to me. Anyway, Danny-J was talking about the freeze response. And she said her therapist was, basically said, she's frozen, right? She's stuck. She's stuck in this this moment. And so she started doing more therapy and ketamine, and she had started to have some baby steps, which started to loosen things up in her life and allow some forward momentum to happen. And she said she's really proud of the shift that's begun to happen in her life, because it also sounds very healing. You know, ultimately, so I think that's amazing. Lesley Logan 22:13  Yeah. I just love these ladies. They're just so great. Brad Crowell 22:16  Yeah, both incredibly powerful and exuberant, they're just so fun to be around. They have great energy. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. Also, both of them have incredible minds for business, which is super fun. Because obviously, that's what I love to nerd out about. So, you know, we've, we've worked with both, both of them as coaches in our business over the years, and it's been exciting to take the things that they're suggesting and have experienced and are doing and incorporate them into the some of the things that we're doing, too. So, yeah, anyway, stick around. Brad Crowell 22:53  All right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Danny-J and Jill Coleman? Jill was talking about her coaching experience and she starts talking about this as if principle.Lesley Logan 23:10  I had, by the way, I had not heard of this as if principle till after I named the podcast, Be It Till You See It, and it really is the as if principle. Brad Crowell 23:17  Yeah. So she has been working with a couple of coaches herself. And one of them, you know, sells millions of dollars a year in sales. And she started to think about this idea of like, what, what would my, you know, what would my coach do in this situation if he was going to make this decision? How would someone who's making millions of dollars in sales make this decision? Right? And so she began to think I need to make decisions as if I am a millions of dollars business owner, right? Because that's where I want to be, right? Which is, be it till you see it, y'all. So she said, there's going to be a gap, however, between where you feel comfortable and where you want to be. And she said, you need to ask yourself, what is my action here? If I were already the person that I'm trying to become what decision would I be making? What's the way that I can sort of step into that new version of myself, even if I'm still scared, because I am still me today. She suggested to picture the person that you want to be or, or the person that you look up to, that already has accomplished the thing that you're trying to accomplish or achieve the thing you're trying to achieve. And then filter your decisions through that lens. So she said also, she's been making some decisions that scare her, because they're out of her comfort zone. She hasn't made decisions like this before. And she said by committing to actions that scare you, you actually force yourself to follow through because you know, if you make a decision and you're like putting everything on the line, you have no choice now, suddenly, right?Lesley Logan 24:54  Yeah, it's kind of like when we even I know she hired more team when we are working with her and it's like you hired them and you're paying them do a job so you gotta give them the job to do so it's full steam ahead even if it scares you because Brad Crowell 25:06  You better make enough money to pay everyone you know so yeah. Exactly. What about you?Lesley Logan 25:12  Okay I've Danny-J's she said kill your ego and kill the old version of yourself so you can become the person you're meant to be. And I'm like this hard.Brad Crowell 25:20  Kill that ego. Lesley Logan 25:21  Danny-J's the hardest to be (inaudible). But she said, because if you cling to your old self, and how people perceive you, it'll hold you back. And people are gonna try to pull you back with your, into your old identity or be critical of your evolution. This happens. This has happened to me as like, I've evolved people like, oh, you're, you're not like this anymore. You're not like this anymore. I'm like, yeah, no, I don't have the time. I'm not doing that anymore. You know, so I cannot do that anymore. And it's you know, and then if you're a people-pleaser, that can be really easy to like, fall back in line, but you got to kill the ego, and kill the old version of yourself. And she said, stop beating yourself up for wanting to change or be different. And I think that's really, really important. It's okay if you want to be different. You just got to do the things you can be different. But she said, in order to be different, you have to be different. Which seems obvious, but guess what, you might forget that you can't just do the same morning routine, same work, same clothes, same friends, and then expect the day to be different, that is the definition of insanity. And she said you have to be able to let go of who you are to become the person you want to be. So go kill your ego, everyone, that is your Be It Action Item from Danny-J.Brad Crowell 26:30  I love it. Well, I want to know, actually, I want to know how do you kill your ego?Lesley Logan 26:37  I feel like that is the Ego is the Enemy book. And he kind of repeats himself 17 times so I feel like if you listen to the Cliff's Notes version of that, you are totally got it. Um, but yeah, I think that or it's therapy, lots of it, you know, or maybe it's like, honestly, you might not be giving a fuck about what other people think so it might actually be The Suttle Art of Not Giving a F*ck, instead of the Ego is the Enemy.Brad Crowell 27:04  That's both great books. Lesley Logan 27:06  Well, one or both of those books was in If Books Could Kill. And to be honest, I think you just need one sentence from each book. And you've got, you've got the whole book, so you don't need to go buy them. You can just like get the Cliff's Notes, I swear. And that is how you're gonna kill your ego, I think, but also, I'd really think it's going to be part of being it until you see it. It's gonna take kill your ego isn't me going back to Jill's and like, what are the things that you'd be doing if you weren't letting your ego drive you (inaudible) things.Brad Crowell 27:34  Yeah. And ego creates fear. Ego creates that lack of confidence or the other end of the spectrum, ego creates arrogance, or, you know, short sightedness, blindness, those kinds of things. So, you know, ego covers the whole spectrum. Yeah. All right. Fair enough. All right.Lesley Logan 27:51  I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 27:52  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 27:53  Thank you so much for listening to this episode. I hope you got out of it as much as we did. I hope you loved Danny-J and Jill Coleman as much as we do. They're so fabulous. Go listen to The Best Life podcast. And make sure you share this episode with a friend. That's how the podcast grows. So my big ask of you today is to share this with someone you love or someone who needs to hear it. Please, please, please, pretty please. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 28:14  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:16  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 28:44  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 28:59  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 29:04  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 29:08  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 29:15  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 29:18  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Today the wonderful Mora Babineau and Elizabeth O'Rourke of studio47 Pilates join me on the podcast. They share their experience working in the Pilates industry for almost two decades, how Pilates has evolved over that time, and how they've adapted with it. They share the importance of apprenticeship, advice for new teachers, and a peek into the future of Pilates. Tune in!I want to hear from you! Share your thoughts and follow the podcast on Instagram and Facebook @pilatesteachersmanual. Full show notes and episode transcription can be found on the podcast website here: http://bit.ly/pilatesteachersmanual. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast for updates, and rate and review wherever you listen!  Episodes now available on YouTube: *https://bit.ly/YouTubePTM*Email pilatesteachersmanual@oliviabioni.com with your feedback.   Show Notes:Elizabeth and Mora are co-owners of studio47 Pilates, which has two locations on the East Coast of the United States. Mora is a Balanced Body Master Educator, and studio47 Pilates is a satellite training facility for Balanced Body. They share decades of movement, dance, and Pilates experience on the podcast and in their classes. Check out their website and her Instagram!Support the podcast:    Visit https://links.oliviabioni.com/affiliates to take advantage of some sweet savings!Episode Music:Tracks: Tobu - Good Times, Tobu & Itro - Sunburst Tobu Official YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/tobuofficialItro Official YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/officialitroReleased by NCS https://www.youtube.com/NoCopyrightSoundsSupport the Show.

Episode 139 of The Hitstreak, a podcast where we talk about anything and everything!  This week we are joined by the Founder of OnlinePilatesClasses.com, Lesley Logan!!Let us know in the comments what YOU want to hear about next!About our guest: Lesley Logan is the world's leading expert on how Pilates changes your life, and is the Chief Pilates Officer at OnlinePilatesClasses.com. She has taught thousands of students, trained hundreds of Pilates teachers, led dozens of workshops at global conferences, and supported notable companies such as the Associated Press, Brand Builders Group, and Balanced Body, empowering participants with movement and happiness through Pilates and international retreats.With a comprehensive certificate (NCPT) from the National Pilates Certification Program, and additional certifications in trauma-informed breathwork, mindset, and habits coaching, and with teaching experience since 2008, Lesley is widely regarded by the Pilates community and corporate executives alike. Publications including Vogue, Sports Illustrated, LA Magazine, Bustle, and Authority have often featured her. And, aside from hosting her own popular podcast, “Be It Till You See It”, Lesley has been interviewed on dozens of others such as “Earn Your Happy” and “Think Unbroken”, and has been a live guest on the BBC, Fox 5, KTLA, and CBS.Follow and contact:Instagram: @lesley.loganonlinepilatesclasses.comAbout Our Sponsors:Hitlab: We specialize in the creation, marketing, and promotion of Podcasts and other serial content. http://hitlabstudio.com/Team Hiter: Our mission is to protect our customers from financial hardship due to unforeseen illness or injury. Simply stated, we provide peace of mind in keeping the promise of financial protection afforded by our health coverages. https://teamhiter.com/RAC Financial has the integration of partner solutions that every business owner needs to be successful. They help make payment processing simple, secure, and reliable by using state-of-the-art tokenization standards that are required of all businesses. RAC Financial cares about you and your business, and they will do their very best to serve you. Your success is RAC Financial's success. They've processed over $3B annually in transactions in less than three years!Get a FREE RAC Financial Cost Savings Analysis for your business

Can Pilates revolutionize your daily movement patterns and enhance your overall well-being? Join us on Kore Kast as we uncover the transformative power of integrating Pilates principles into functional fitness routines. Host Kris Harris, with nearly two decades of expertise in Pilates and personal training, guides you through how core strength, body awareness, and controlled movements can elevate your fitness game. We're diving deep into the essence of functional fitness, highlighting how it aims to bolster strength, flexibility, balance, and coordination, all while preventing injuries and promoting a richer quality of life.Discover the magic behind specific Pilates exercises like the 100, roll-up, and one-leg circles, and see how these movements mirror everyday activities to boost your functional fitness. We also take you on a journey through the fascinating history of Joseph Pilates, whose innovative methods continue to benefit fitness enthusiasts worldwide. Whether you're an avid gym-goer or prefer home-based workouts supported by digital fitness tools, this episode offers valuable insights and practical tips to keep your exercise routine dynamic and effective. Tune in and join our community for a fresh perspective on maintaining a lifestyle full of vitality and well-being.Support the Show.https://www.kore-fit.comhttps://www.korecandlecompany.com

Lesley Logan shares her excitement for launching an event earlier than expected, reflecting on the year-long effort and celebrating this achievement with listeners. She emphasizes the power of small, consistent action in achieving bigger goals, the importance of daily self-care practices, and finding moments of movement in their day. Tune in to discover community wins and why Lesley reminds everyone to listen to their intuition and follow their hearts.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of prioritizing 10 minutes of Pilates on a busy day.The power of consistent Pilates practice on glute engagement. The reciprocal nature of sharing knowledge with mentors and peers.The result of a year's worth of smaller steps and decision-making.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday.  Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.  Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Happy June 14th. That's the day (inaudible) dropping. And it doesn't mean that today you're listening to this. So happy day. I'm so excited that you are choosing to listen to the Be It Pod, especially on FYF day, that means you are here for a little dose of inspiration, some wins of yours, a win of mine, for us to explore different ways we can look at different wins. And I think it's so, so important because we can be so hard on ourselves and not realize that there are winning, it's happening all the time. So there's different ways to celebrate things. And so FYF just means Fuck Yeah Friday. You can do an FYF on any day of the week. You can have like a Slay it Saturday or Sunday or you know, Magic Monday, whatever you want. But if this, hopefully, starts to help you seek out and see the possibility of positive things happening in your life amongst all of the chaos. All right, so this one is from Jennifer Voss (JV). She's an eLevate member, currently, and she got 10 minutes on her reformer before going to work today. Working on getting out of the habit of skipping, there's always time in my day to practice one move even. Today, flowed two times for the long stretch series. Way to go, JV. So I just want to highlight this, there's always going to be somebody that feels like it's bigger priority than you getting your movement in. Always. I know, like, I'll just do it tomorrow. I don't have enough time. 10 minutes of movement is so, so important. If you find little bouts of movement moments in your day, it's really great. And one of the things that I stress for Pilates instructors, you need to protect your practice, an easy part of your daily life, even if it's 10 minutes, even if it's five minutes. But for everyone else listening because there's more of you than the Pilates instructors. You need to protect your practice. I know that you have bills to pay and people pulling on you and screaming your name too many times during the day. But you will have more energy to deal with all of that if you take care of yourself and move even for 10 minutes in the day. All right next up we have Jaime Thomas also an eLevate member. By the way we will be opening up eLevate we've had a lot of questions on eLevate. We'll open up eLevate 2025 probably anytime now. So Jaime Thomas, she's like, this is small, but in my mind it's also really big. I'm starting to feel my glutes when I walk, the connections I'm working on my Pilates practice are carrying over into everyday living. I'm so excited. You know what, that's a huge win. I'm being really honest, especially as someone whose glutes didn't, I didn't, I never felt that. So, I feel this is a huge win for you, Jamie. It's, your posture is so key. And if you're feeling your glutes when your walk, like your longevity in this life is just like exponentially expanded. And I'm so grateful. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for taking care of yourself and for your practice. And, you guys, yeah, feeling your glutes when you walk is a win. So, maybe you're like, oh, I feel my glutes when I walk. I'm winning too. Good. Celebrate that. All right, next up we have Liza Osoteo. So, Lisa is an eLevate grad. She also taught at the OPC Summer Camp. She also cracks me up and I cannot wait for her to be at our Cambodia retreat this year with her friend Mandy. All right, I taught my teacher and dearest of friends, Mandy Bland. It was a brief second finessing her side bend on the mat, but what a huge moment for me. It took me years and many Pilates teachers to get to that point. How cool is that? And how cool, is it that I have accumulated so many Pilates teachers over the years, I could write an Oscar speech that would require the orchestra to play me off. Don't worry, I'll save the thank you speech for my own socials (besides, I need to practice tagging them which is another win-in-the-making: becoming slightly more social media literate). But back to this FYF, thank you Mandy Bland. Oh, my gosh. You know, something I love about Liza is how, how fun she is in everything that she does. But I really truly do love and learn a lot about different things of positivity from her. And so I hope that if you have ever taken a moment to teach someone who's taught you to think something that you see as a win. You know, a lot of times I don't think we have something to offer people who've taught us other things but they don't know everything. It's impossible. I don't know everything you can't know everything. So we can all be helping each other out and those are wins and we can celebrate those. So thank you Liza for showing us that there are wins and us teaching other people just something small, something little that can take them to the next level on their life and even in that exercise, so thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right, here we go. My win. Summer Tour is open, it is launched and holy moly, this win is happening because it's happening earlier than we normally would have done it for summer camp usually, like just there's so many moving parts. And so I'm just really, really proud that we hit all those deadlines to get Summer Tour open, that we're doing a summer tour is also just a win, a year in the making. Been doing little celebrations around it without actually highlighting it for you guys, but to do Summer Tour required us a year in advance to clear the schedule. And it required us to start to gather up other people's names and places we could go and really contemplate what could be possible and dream about it before it could even happen. (Inaudible) about this year's summer tour before we did last year's summer tour. So, we didn't even know if we would like it. We didn't know what would be possible, we didn't know if it would be too much on ourselves. And so the fact that we have opened up the registration, we have amazing cities that we're going to. New cities we've never been to before. New collaborative partners. Our amazing headline sponsor, Balanced Body is back. All like these massive, it's one big massive win, which is this accumulation of a lot of little wins and betting on ourselves. And so if you have this big dream that's a year in advance, you have to celebrate the little wins you get along the way. So you might not have heard other wins that I've had in the last year, which is like changing the schedule. Last year, I was so proud that we hadn't like booked things for this year. And the reason we hadn't done that is because we needed to see if we could put in these summer tours. And so just notice the little wins that you're having that are adding up to you being able to have the big win in a year from now because they do add up. And so thank you to my team, thank you to our sponsors, thank you to collaborative partners. (inaudible) You know, we wouldn't do our tours, if you didn't come until I really hope to see you at one of those amazing cities because that would be a win as well. To me is their win, their wins in getting to be in person together and getting to give a hug and getting to see your face and hear who you are and what you love and why you listen. So I do hope you can come and, to Summer Tour and (inaudible) those cities. We will be doing a winter tour, but you'll find out about that later.We are already making many little wins on that as we speak. Some more on that to come. But thank you so much for being you. I hope these wins helped you see different ways that you might have been winning already this week, or even today. Maybe you taught someone something today, maybe you helped someone, you know, cross the street, that's a win, right? It's a win because there's a lot of things going on in your life and you were able to be present enough to support someone else. So think about the different ways you're winning, celebrate those with others, you can be the inspiration of positivity around you. And before I let you go, of course we have the mantra that we all need to remember by okay, my heart knows its own way. My heart knows its own way. My heart knows its own way. So, listen to it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 8:59  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.  Lesley Logan 9:04  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.  DotcoBrad Crowell 9:08  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.  Lesley Logan 9:15  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Also,Brad Crowell 9:19  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.  Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Lesley and Brad reflect on key insights from Rodman Schley, an entrepreneur, investor, and public speaker, about living a purpose-driven life. They explore startling statistics about how few people truly know and live their purpose. Emphasizing the importance of focusing on purpose over profit, they share strategies for overcoming regret and societal pressures. Listeners will also learn about managing overwhelm and prioritizing self-care to stay aligned with their goals.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:The importance of identifying and focusing on purpose over profit.Strategies to handle feelings of overwhelm by redefining obligations.How to clearly communicate your purpose clearly to others.Creating your own "sacred checkboxes" to find your purpose. Discover the importance of self-care and setting personal priorities.Episode References/Links:Cambodia Feb 2025 - https://crowsnestretreats.com/OPC Summer ToureLevate Mentorship ProgramBarrels Flashcards Deck WaitlistOPC 40 Days for $40Rodman Schley WebsiteRodman Schley InstagramThe Outlier Mindset Book by Rodman SchleyBree Gordon Episode 75Krista St. Germain Episode 235Kim Hamer Episode 244Kim Hamer 100 Acts of LoveDazzle Dry Nail Kit  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  He said, There comes a point in your life where you need to just pull the brake on that train because we're adults, we're adults. Why are we doing things because other people are telling us that that's what we should be doing? Right? We are able to make conscious decisions and we can change these paths if we want to, for ourselves, if we make a decision about it. Lesley Logan 0:25  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:07  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the intentional convo I had with Rodman Schley in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, go back and listen to that interview and then come back and listen to this interview or listen to this one and listen to that one or binge out on the entire week at one time. Who does that? I want to know. Today is June 13th 2024. And it's Random Acts of Light Day. About this day, as part of the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society's ‘Light The Night Walks' fundraising campaign, Random Acts of Light Day is celebrated every year on June 13th. This day encourages us to do a random act of kindness to bring light into the life of someone suffering from cancer. People observe the day by volunteering at hospitals, reading up on treatments and cures for blood cancer patients, or joining the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society's 'Light The Night Walks' to raise funds and increase awareness about leukemia and lymphoma. Random Acts of Light Day aims to make the world a kinder place for cancer patients and their families. So really, if you don't want to do any of this logistical stuff, you could just do something randomly nice for someone with cancer in your life. I'm sure you know someone, we just had a friend, listener and member of our group whose husband passed away from cancer recently, and he'd been fighting for many years. And then Heather Ingram, who is one of our eLevate grads, Agency members, she actually taught a mat class for people after breast cancer, which I'm so excited that is now on the OPC site. Yeah, so getting people who have gone through it something for them, so. Brad Crowell 2:38  Well, I just wanted to say something about all this, I can't remember the name of the guest that we had, who gave this advice as an action item, but as a Be It Action Item. But it has stayed with me since the interview. And it was when somebody is in need, you don't want to just say, "Hey, let me know if I can help you," or "Let me know how I can help." Because 99% of the time, they're not going to actually know what they need at the moment. And instead, if you know someone who needs help or suffering or some kind of thing like this, you can actually volunteer something specific that you know, you can do really well. And do it well for them. Right? So instead of it being like this open-ended let me know when, you know, if you need anything, you know, you could say, "Hey, let me know when I can come over and wash your car." Something specific, you know, something that's like tangible, and like, oh my god, that would be fucking awesome. I would really, really appreciate that. So I just want to throw that back out there because it's really impacted me in how I respond to people who actually are going through something and I wanted to remind all of you as well. Lesley Logan 3:50  Yeah. We had two guests within the same summer on grief. Brad Crowell 3:57  I do think it was the grief one, you're right. Lesley Logan 3:58  And I can't decide if it was the wife does the books that had the book about 100 acts of kindness. Or if it was the coach on griefBrad Crowell 4:09  Bree Gordon or Kim Hamer. Lesley Logan 4:11  Yeah. Both are great guys. Both worth listening to. Bree has a quiz that will tell you which episodes to listen to based on like where you are in your grief. Anyways, there was a coach about a month before Kim Hamer. But Kim Hamer, I think was one who was like, very specific. Brad Crowell 4:28  She's a consultant in grief management. Lesley Logan 4:29  Yes, yes. For corporations. Yeah. So she wrote the book on the 100 Acts of Kindness and 100 Acts of Love something like that. And it was like different things you can do to be like for ideas on what to suggest and what to do for you can do for people it's really cool. She had the neighbor who like detailed her car and put oil in it, gassed it up, things like that. So yeah, today go do something active and random and nice for someone in need. There you go. This is your, this is your reminder. Coming up, we have Cambodia Retreat February 2025. October as you know, if you've been listening for a while is sold, sold out, so sold out. So February is our next opportunity. If you're like when's the next one? You know what? Don't know yet, and also stop postponing your joy. Stop postponing having a retreat. Some of you have been saying I'm gonna go to the next one for years now. This is your sign. Sign up for the February 2025 one. And then summer tour just launched and tickets are going like crazy. We have 13 cities. It is going to be amazing. We are going to kick it off in Las VegasBrad Crowell 5:28  I just wanted to throw out the URL crowsnestretreats.com Lesley Logan 5:31  Oh, for the retreat. crowsnestretreats.com for the retreat and then the Summer Tour is opc.me/tour. You can check out, get your tickets, get your tickets for a friend, invite a friend, your friends do not need to have done Pilates to come to these things. There are really, there's usually a math class. There's a lot of fun things going on. So definitely do that. And then my mentorship program is, the applications are opening soon. It is possible we'll have opened them up, I don't think so at this point. I think it'll be opening towards the end of June and early July. We're rolling, we only can take 12 people in a group. We, around four is wrapping up, actually, this weekend when this episode comes out will be their fourth weekend. That's crazy. So crazy. I'm so excited for them. They're just amazing women. I love them so much. And then as you go to lesleylogan.co/elevate to get on the waitlist because there's a waitlist. Get the application invite. If you're not on the waitlist, you don't. It's probably why you don't, if you're like, I follow you on Instagram, I never knew. I don't know how about what there's a lot of other things going on. And we only can take 12 people, so there you go. Barrels flashcards, Brad is insisting that you get an opportunity.Brad Crowell 6:39  This is your last chance to get on the waitlist, 100% the last chance. The presale is gonna open up in just a couple of days. Lesley Logan 6:46  Yeah, this is the last chance. It's the last time we're talking about it. You don't hear about it again until they're printing.Brad Crowell 6:50  Yeah, or not until a year from now when we're doing the next step.Lesley Logan 6:54  Yeah, so at any rate, you'll want to get on the waitlist for that. Brad Crowell 6:57  opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist Lesley Logan 7:03  And finally, many of you have been like, oh, how do I actually sign up for OPC I really want to actually have consistency in my practice. I want to be someone who takes care of myself all the time. I want to be someone who is priority number one in my life. And if you are an OPC member, you learn how to do that because you have tons of people around you reminding you to do that. So opc.me/40 four zero, opc.me/40 gets you 40 days for $40. So that's $1 a day of Pilates. Brad Crowell 7:32  $1 a day. Lesley Logan 7:33  Come on now. Come on now. Some places charge $400 a month, we're, you know, so here you go. Here's your opportunity to get the Pilates you can afford. It's very accessible, really awesome teachers, really awesome community. It's an awesome vibes all the way. Before we get into Rodman, we have an audience question.Brad Crowell 7:50  We sure did. This is from YouTube, stella633 asked, "Hey, I love your channel and all the knowledge you share. I'm trying to buy a spine corrector. But there are so many different spine correctors on the Balanced Body website. Could you do a video comparing the pros and cons of the different spine correctors? Oh, and can you advise what East Coast West Coast barrels mean?Lesley Logan 8:10  I know. So we'll do Brad Crowell 8:13  That's a great question, stella. Lesley Logan 8:14  We'll do a YouTube video on this so you can have pictures I feel like we almost need to do a long-form team versus a live on this because I don't have the other barrels. So I would want our team to put pictures of the other barrels on there. But let me just like answer what I can East Coast versus West Coast. So there's this world of Pilates that was like was we called East Coast and West Coast East Coast being classical, West Coast bidding contemporary. Brad Crowell 8:37  Really? Lesley Logan 8:37  Yes. Brad Crowell 8:38  I didn't know about that.Lesley Logan 8:39  Yeah. Yeah. So whenever you see East Coast or Clara, it means classical. And everything else is gonna be a contemporary and I can't tell you why there's different sizes in contemporary I don't know that world very much, but what you'd want to get is a Contrology one. Contrology Spine Corrector is a spine corrector to get and you'll find that on Balance Body's Contrology website so it won't, probably won't even be under all the barrels that Balanced Body is showing because it'll be on the Contrology website. It is amazing. It is the closest to Joseph Pilates' spine corrector that there is and if you were listening to last week's episode, I talked about how important the spine corrector is because it really does help you teach you the back bend that you need. Brad has been using the ladder barrel.Brad Crowell 9:22   I sure have.Lesley Logan 9:22  Like, guess what? That hump on the ladder barrel is the exact same as the spine corrector. Brad Crowell 9:27  Nice. Okay. Lesley Logan 9:27  Yeah. So that you can actually work and practice your back bends and build extension into your thoracic spine. Brad Crowell 9:33  You know what I've actually been doing? Lesley Logan 9:34  He's been hanging on it. Brad Crowell 9:36  No, yeah, well, I've just been laying over it and holding on and like, it's, you know, if you've ever done yoga, y'all, and you ever get a backbend headache, there's like this weird pressure that builds and like, it like, the blood flow is like really messing with your brain. And I literally just hold on until I'm through the chaos which takes it could take like the other day I did it and literally I got weak trying to hold because it was such intense pressure. But like, I feel like I'm supposed to be able to do that. And I shouldn't have to have that insane pressure the whole every time. So I'm going to keep doing it every day. Until that happens less.Lesley Logan 10:18  Yeah, I think that's fine.Brad Crowell 10:20  That's what I'm doing. Lesley Logan 10:22  Yeah, so (inaudible) so the long, the long and short of it without the visuals is the Contrology is the one you want buy, just saying. And our Barrels Flashcard Deck is actually going to give you all the exercises you can do on it, and you'll see me and my hot pink one. If you want a discount link, you can use our special link to Contrology Spine Corrector. And the difference between East Coast and West Coast is just the schools of thought. Don't you love how nerdy it is as if anyone who's not trained could even attempt to buy their own thing. And then people who are trained are like, what's East Coast or West Coast? Yep. Welcome to another inner circle.Brad Crowell 11:04  Definitely, we're so inclusive here. Well, hey, great question, stella. Thank you for asking that. Thanks for posting that. If you would like to ask us a question. Stick around to the end of this episode, we actually are gonna mention our phone number. You can just text us and ask that question or we are on Instagram you can send us a DM or obviously we're also on YouTube. So the show is itself is on YouTube. You can ask any questions there as well. Stick around. All right, now let's talk about Rodman Schley. Rodman Schley is a dynamic entrepreneur dedicated to helping individuals break free from unfulfilling work and discover their true purpose. He's passionate about guiding others towards building a life by their own design. As the author of The Outlier Mindset, which comes out on June 4, Rodman shares his insights on achieving a fulfilling and successful life through purpose-driven living.Lesley Logan 11:54  Oh his, his book comes out.Brad Crowell 11:56  Yeah June 4.Lesley Logan 11:57  That's so cool. So it's out. Brad Crowell 11:59  Oh, it's out. Lesley Logan 12:00  Yeah. Brad Crowell 12:00  It's already out by the time you're hearing this.Lesley Logan 12:01  Oh, that's amazing. Go Rodman. Brad Crowell 12:03  Yeah, that just dropped on June 4. Lesley Logan 12:04  That's so funny. His Instagram handle's Go Rodman and I just said go Rodman. I now understand why he does that.Brad Crowell 12:12  Well, listen, I think this is like a humble bio here that we have of Rodman.Lesley Logan 12:15  That we should like (inaudible) it up. Brad Crowell 12:17  Yeah. So Rodman actually has, at one point, owned, like, I don't know, a dozen companies at exactly the same time, which is chaos and insane. And I can't even imagine that. He owned everything from like a chain of pizza stores, to like tons of real estate opportunities. And he actually was the host and star of a television show for multiple years running, and it involved his whole family and what they were doing, which I thought was so cool, was they were talking about living sustainably. Right. So it was a show about being conscious about building a home in a way that is sustainable and beneficial. And I just thought that was so cool. So they actually rebuilt their house. It was, they got an old house, and they rebuilt it from the inside out on the show live over multiple seasons. And you can still go watch that show. now. I think he just got an offer from Netflix or something to like, re-air it. I can't remember if it's Netflix or (inaudible) yeah, it's just fucking insane. It's so cool. Anyway, you'll never know. He's just like the chillest guy, so. Lesley Logan 13:24  Yeah. So, one of the things that we talked about is he believes that the tragedy that only 5% of people are actually living a life based on their purpose. Just 5%. And he's, only 10% know what it is. And soBrad Crowell 13:37  Meaning they don't, they know their purpose. Lesley Logan 13:39  Yeah, they know their purpose.Brad Crowell 13:40  Ninety percent of people don't know their purpose. Lesley Logan 13:41  Yeah, he's trying to help people figure out their purpose, because he's trying to solve regret, like people get to the end of their life, or they get halfway through their life. And they're like, they have regrets because they've spent most of their life not in their purpose. And so he's trying to solve for that, which I think is really generous and kind and hard to do, because so many people postpone things till tomorrow, because they have other pressing things today. And so he says, time flies by us, we get caught up in this garbage that's not really relevant to who we are, or in the life that we want to be living. And he actually was like, just stop focusing on the profit and start focusing on the purpose. And this is something that we try to focus on our businesses, it gets really easy to focus on, like, are we making enough money, we're making the money we want to make and when we actually remember to focus on impact, the impact you want to have, that helps us stay in alignment with our purpose because then the money will follow right? Brad Crowell 13:41  The money will flow. Lesley Logan 13:41  And he said, you want to be able to say I have no regrets. I have everything that I wanted to do, failed but learned and pivoted. And I think that that's also like, I love that he brought up failure because like sometimes it's easy to think if I'm in my purpose, then I must be perfect. And everything is gonna be right and it's like actually going to live in your purpose and there's going to be a lot of lessons along the way in your purpose. And that's really cool too. So I just, I enjoyed him so much. I'm so glad he's got a book coming out because he, his podcast, you guys, is so great. He's got like, he's like, get your mind right, get your mind right. Brad Crowell 15:12  Yeah, mind body money. And there's one, there's a fourth pillar I can't remember. Well, I'll tell you why I thought it was really cool when he was talking about feeling overwhelmed. Because it was a, it was kind of a unique perspective on being overwhelmed. I mean, we've all been there, we all understand what it is to be like, oh, my god, I have so much, I don't even know where to start. It's debilitating, right, you just do nothing. For me, what I used to do, when I got overwhelmed, was stop and just play video games and just do nothing literally sit around and pretend that it's all going to be okay. He said, the thing about overwhelm, that I thought was a unique perspective is obligation. And effectively, it's a whole lot of obligations all pulled into one, they're all piling on top of each other, and they're getting in their own way. And it's the worst feeling. And he said, it's just struggle, because effectively you're doing things that you feel obliged to do, committed to do. It's a thing, you just have to do it, right? And ultimately, to live a life of freedom. He wants to help you shift that so that you're doing things because you want to, not because you're stuck doing with them, or you're over-committed a thousand times over and you're doing the PTA meeting and the art committee and going out and helping out do the soccer field and line in the soccer field and all this stuff, which sure there's a there's a bigger purpose for it all. But ultimately, it leaves you last on the list. Right? And you never you never actually have time to take care of yourself. It's just frustrating. Right? So he said, he said the hard part is we have this idea of what we are, quote-unquote, supposed to be doing because that's what society tells us to do. And he said, there comes a point in your life where you need to just pull the brake on that train. Because we're adults, we're adults. Why are we doing things because other people are telling us that that's what we should be doing? Right? We are able to make conscious decisions, and we can change these paths if we want to for ourselves, if we make a decision about it. Right? And I know it's harder. It's, it's easier said than done. But I just thought it was refreshing to hear that, be reminded of that. Right. You know, maybe I'm still doing something today because, you know, it's what my parents expected of me when I was a teenager. But now I'm still doing it today. Why? You know, do I agree with it? Is it actually causing conflict in my life? Is it creating an obligation that I'm now you know, adhering to? Or it's one more thing I have to do. Maybe, maybe it's time for a change. Lesley Logan 18:00  Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I think that's good. I think it's good to evaluate, you know, it's too easy for us just like, keep going with it. And, you know, we have a coach who says makes you a shithead. Brad Crowell 18:12  It makes you a shithead. I love it. All right. When we come back, we're going to cover those Be It Action Items from Rodman. Stick around. Brad Crowell 18:22  Okay, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items, can we take away from your convo with Rodman Schley? He said, if you want to change, the first thing to do is start with a purpose. Whether you get a guide to do it on your own, or do it on your own, you should establish what is important to you sit down and do that work, right, sit down and identify what is important to you. I think that's, well, that's the place to get started. Right? We may have never actually clarified what is important to us. And so we think we know, but we've never actually conceptualized it in a tangible thought about this is important to me. And so therefore, this is helping me, this is helping me find purpose. Lesley Logan 19:13  But also, you might have clarified it with yourself, but not with the people around you. And then you get resentful, like, why aren't they helping me do the thing that I'm here on this planet to do? And anytime we assume that people understand why, what our purpose is or why we're doing things, it makes it difficult. And it's like, you know, so I even have to remember to like clarify, here's why I want to do this thing. Here's why it's so important that it happens right at this moment, and here's why I'm doing it. Here's what it's gonna do for me, or here's what it's gonna do for us or here's what it's gonna do for others. And when you do, that people go, oh, okay, I see why this has urgency around it, you know, because sometimes we don't and we go, why is this person bothering me? Why is my family wanting me to make dinner? I've got this big project coming up. But if you've never said, here's why this big project is so important to me. I've been wanting to do this at work for a really long time I finally have this opportunity to present it in front of people. And it would, it's, it's really truly like the thing that I've been wanting to do for so, so long. So what I need from you is to not expect me to make dinner this week because I'm working on this thing. Because this is part of my purpose. It's part of my plan. And, and here's why I'm doing it. Brad Crowell 20:20  Yeah, I mean, or even, you know.Lesley Logan 20:22  Spell it out. Brad Crowell 20:22  It could also be use that same logic for your self care, right? Because people would look at you and be like, Why are you getting your nails done? Right? And you're like, this is important to me? Because it makes me feel better. Or maybe it's working out your Pilates routine, or getting your hair cut, or whatever it might be. But what I thought was really cool is Rodman had this idea of the sacred checklists, the checkboxes, sorry, he has four, after sitting down and running this exercise himself, and really trying to figure out, he considered things like, what are my strengths? What are my weaknesses? What do I love? What do I hate? Then take those things and put them in order into what is the most important to you and he came up with four things. One was travel, two was actually can't remember what his four were off the top my head right now. But he said it allowed him to then make decisions based on are they meeting these four checkboxes? If I'm gonna go do this thing does it fit into what is what, what I have now decided is my purpose and allowed decision-making to happen that way? Because for him, especially for him, he was overcommitted. He was overwhelmed, right, obliged to run, he was doing 12 or 13 companies at the same time. He wasn't doing them for any other reason then, he could, right, and they make money. So sure, I guess I should do these things. Right? And he said, when he sat down, figured out what his purpose was, then started making decisions based on if I do this project, is it going to meet these four, the four checkboxes that are helping me decide my purpose, you know, or to find my purpose? Does it fit? Is it a match? Is it aligned? Lesley Logan 22:05  Yeah, I like that. Because we, we filter things for our values. And this is sort of, very similar, but also like, you know, we've, we've heard, we recently did something and we're like, okay, in the future, we won't say yes to these things unless they meet this criteria, because we show up exactly as ourselves, we do not downplay ourselves, we do not go half ass on anything. No. And so if we are going to bring our whole asses to things, then they need to be these requirements. Otherwise, we don't bring our whole ass and we say thank you, here's how else we can participate. And that's it. You know, so, super, and you don't always know these things until you go through them. And you're like, what the fuck? How did I say yes here? So then you just, don't, don't get mad at yourself. Just go, okay, new rule, new bucket. Brad Crowell 22:58  Yeah, yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 23:00  So he said, go get your mindset and your body right. If you're gonna go on a journey to start changing your life, and you don't have your mindset right, you're going to fail because you're not sitting there with the right perspective on the way.Brad Crowell 23:13  The way you're going into things.Lesley Logan 23:14  The way you're going into things. Brad Crowell 23:15  Yeah. Lesley Logan 23:15  And if you're not physically feeling good, how are you going to be at your best when you are trying to do the things in life that you really want to be doing? And I love this. So this is the Be It Till You See It. If the version of you that you are trying to win purpose, walks every morning, how can you walk in the morning? You don't have to wait till you get there to start walking. You can start walking, if you're like Les, I'm so busy, I don't have any time. You can walk outside your front door and walk back in like you can do it, right? So I want you to really think about that. And I think it's so, so important. So many people just push their bodies to doing things and then they get to where they want to go and their body can't keep up and they will, why is this happening to me now? I finally got what I wanted? Because you didn't take care of yourself on the way there. Just didn't do it. You know, and I, I want to say like, Brad mentioned like your getting your nails done can be like taking care of yourself. So many people put a lot of things in the vanity, privileged, I must earn it bucket. If getting your nails done actually makes you feel good and helps you show up 100% yourself get your fucking nails done. They are not a when we did my scheduling thing, my how to design your ideal schedule to live life when I have, someone said oh, are getting my nails done glitter or gemstones meaning is it something I can do anytime? Or it's gemstone time meaning it's helping me move my business forward. And I said is getting your nails done like make you feel like your whole self and she's like, yeah, like it's a rock. It's actually part of self-care that is a priority in your schedule. And so I'm not saying everyone has to get their nails done to be taking care of themselves. That's not it at all. But they're, make a list of things that you're like, these are the things I want to do for myself care, and let's see how different versions of them could exist in your exact life right now. Maybe you can't afford to get your nails done right now, guess what, you can get, we're not sponsored by them, but Dazzle Dry for 20 bucks as a kit and you can paint your own nails and they look like gel nails without the UV and they dry in 10 minutes. You're frickin welcome. You're welcome. Right? So you don't have to go spend 50 bucks on a manicure if you don't have that kind of funds and you don't have that kind of time. But just being it until you see it is not waiting until it happens. It's turning. It's taking what you think that your version of you is going to be doing and finding ways to do that right now. And you'll get there quicker so I freaking love it. I love all of it and go, Rodman. Brad Crowell 25:44  Go, Rodman. Lesley Logan 25:45  Congrats on your book, man and your podcast and what you're doing. And you guys, if you love gardening, you have to check out his wife's channel as well. So like she's doing some beautiful things. Brad Crowell 25:54  She has a three-acre flower garden. Pretty cool. Pretty cool.Lesley Logan 26:00  I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 26:01  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 26:02  Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you going to use these tips in your life? How are you going to find your purpose? Make sure you tell us at the Be It Pod. Tell Rodman, @goRodman, and send this to a friend who's feeling a little bit down or lost. This is how we can help people. Sometimes we don't have the words to help people. We think of them when we're listening to a podcast. You can choose to send it to them.Brad Crowell 26:20  Send it.Lesley Logan 26:20  You don't have to have the words so you can let the other person who has words be inspired for them. All right, thank you so much. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 26:27  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:29  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.   Lesley Logan 26:57  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Did you know that Pilates can have many health benefits and will definitely change your body? In this episode, Lesley Logan, a leading expert on Pilates and co-founder of OnlinePilatesClasses.com, discusses how Pilates can transform lives, especially for those unable to perform high-impact exercises. She shares her journey from skepticism to becoming a passionate instructor after experiencing the significant benefits of Pilates firsthand. She highlights its holistic approach, focusing on stabilizing the torso and preventing injuries by balancing strength and flexibility. Furthermore, for beginners, she advises starting with online classes or seeking comprehensively trained instructors for in-person sessions, particularly for those with specific medical conditions or recovering from injuries. She underscores the importance of kindness towards oneself and viewing Pilates as a practice rather than striving for perfection. Are you ready to discover how Pilates can transform your health and body? Tune in to our latest episode featuring Lesley Logan. Listen now and start your Pilates journey today!   Episode Highlights: About Lesley Logan The holistic approach of pilates  Health and wellness benefits of pilates Starting Pilates based on individual conditions Tips for beginners on starting pilates Importance of accountability and flexibility in online pilates classes   Connect with Lesley Logan: Website | onlinepilatesclasses.com Facebook | www.facebook.com/onlinepilatesclasses Instagram | @lesley.logan Linked In | www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/ Tiktok | @onlinepilatesclasses Youtube | www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses About Lesley Logan Lesley Logan is the world's leading expert on how Pilates changed your life, and is the co-founder of OnlinePilatesClasses.com. She has taught thousands of students, trained hundreds of teachers, led workshops at global conferences, and supported companies such as the Associated Press and Balanced Body, empowering participants with movement and happiness through Pilates. With a comprehensive certificate from the National Pilates Certification Program, and with teaching experience since 2008, Lesley is widely regarded by the Pilates community and corporate executives alike.   Resources: FREE! Discover the 5 Reasons Your Weight-Loss Journey Has Gotten Derailed (And How To Get Back On Track!)

Lesley and Brad reflect on Lesley's interview with Nick Hutchison, founder of BookThinkers and author of 'Rise of the Reader.' Discover Nick's inspiring journey from indifference to reading to becoming a passionate advocate for personal development books. Learn practical strategies for reading more effectively, including setting specific, measurable goals and integrating reading into your daily routine. Get actionable tips on how to read 20 books a year and retain valuable information, enhancing your personal and professional growth. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why feeling like an impostor is normal when starting something new.The value of audience engagement and feedback in the creative process.Importance of reading books that address specific problems or build skills.Set SMART goals in retaining and applying knowledge gained from books. Targeted reading to address and solve personal problems effectively.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer Camp - soOPC Summer TourBalanced BodyeLevate 2025 BookThinkers WebsiteBookThinkers InstagramRise of the ReaderThe Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  He always asks them, "If I paid you $10,000, if you read this book in the next month, would you do it?" And of course they would say, "yeah, yeah, yeah, I would totally do it." And he said, "Great, I've caught you in my trap." And the trap is obviously prioritization. We don't prioritize reading, so we don't read, right?Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:06  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life Brad and I are going to dig in to the pragmatic convo I had with Nick Hutchison in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to this episode, you should. You should just listen to it. So listen in any order you want. Doesn't really matter to us. But go listen to Nick. He is incredible. He's amazing. He's also just like, really like, sweet, nice dude. And he, it's announced we can say, he is expecting his first kid.Brad Crowell 1:32  I didn't know that. That's exciting. Congratulations, Nick.Lesley Logan 1:35  Oh. Get on social. I know. Brad Crowell 1:37  Yeah, I'm all over that. (Inaudible)Lesley Logan 1:39  Well, he can do Dad's Club. He could do Vincent's Dad's Club. Yeah. Brad Crowell 1:39  Yeah. I'll connect the dots there, Nick. That's exciting. Lesley Logan 1:46  I love it. He didn't even ask for dad advice and I'm like you should do this thingBrad Crowell 1:50  Congratulations. You're going to get it. Lesley Logan 1:50  So today is May 30th. It is World MS Day. About this day, World Multiple Sclerosis Day, falling on May 30th, invites dialogue on the disease. Multiple sclerosis, MS, is a relapse-remitting disease with a very slow progression. MS is also known as encephalomyelitis disseminata and its symptoms include muscle weakness, double vision and mental physical problems due to lack of research studies on the disease. The exact causes behind it are generally unknown. Many scientists believe that there might be connected to the onset of the disease and genes or nerve-cell dysfunction. Furthermore, there's no permanent cure yet. The symptoms can be relieved using the right set of treatments and medication. I just want to like shout out because there's actually been a lot of talk about this. Selma Blair, I believe, did a docu-series or documentary about this. She's been very vocal about it. Christina Applegate is now in a cane. And she, I believe, has to stop acting because of it and like she had a really amazing show, even up until very recently.Brad Crowell 3:00  We just met someone in Phoenix PLT who has MS.Lesley Logan 3:05  Yeah. Jack Osbourne has it. Montel Williams and Jamie-Lynn Sigler. There's actually more. There's, I'm gonna see if there's anyone you might know. But there's Tamia Hill, David lLnder, Walter Williams, Jonathan Katz, Janice Dean, Richard Pryor, Neil Cavuto, Trevor Bayne. So there's a ton more. I'm sure there's more. The only reason I brought these people up is like, you might have like, loved them for a long time and wonder what they're doing. And the truth is, is that this is a really hard and really sad thing that we have no information on, there's not a lot of treatments or studies being done on it, and it's a real shame. So anyways, but shout out to Selma Blair for the work that she's been doing to draw attention to it. So what do we got coming up? Okay. OPC Summer Camp is like this weekend. It is this weekend, not like, it is this weekend. Brad Crowell 3:56  It is May 30th. That means we're looking at two days from now is June 1st.Lesley Logan 4:03  Yes. So Brad and I will have our blue blockers along (inaudible). We are going to have to go to bed early tomorrow night, Brad, because you have to get up super early on Saturday. We are it's all hands on deck because it is just like Zoom. Like it's seven Zooms a day, seven different links, seven different teachers each day. Different groups of people, some people have day pass, some people have bought ala carte, so we have to be on top of everything. As a camp directors that we are, and we have 13 other camp counselors and just an incredible lineup of events for you. This is the biggest thing we've ever done online and we really hope you join us because it's, it's really it's all about the Pilates practitioner. You do not have to be a teacher to join these. And if you can't join us live you get to have the replays. So buy them anyways.Brad Crowell 4:48  That's right. I think that's the key. If you can't join us live, you get to keep the replays. Lesley Logan 4:53  Yeah, so opc.me/events is how you get your tickets before we go live. Okay, after that we're actually going to head out on tour. OPC Summer Tour. We're headed to the Midwest, y'all. We're hitting cities. We just pretty much skip over all the time. And so, Chicago. I'm looking at Yale. Brad Crowell 5:13  Milwaukee. One of the Twin Cities.Lesley Logan 5:14  Milwaukee. Yes. One of the Twin Cities. Brad Crowell 5:15  We're actually looking atLesley Logan 5:18  Indy.Brad Crowell 5:19  Yeah, sure.Lesley Logan 5:19  We have something in Denver. I mean, we go to Denver all the time, but we're going to, we're going to Denver. Colorado Springs. We are looking at Indy. I think we talked to someone. Brad Crowell 5:31  We're potentially gonna be in Cincinnati. We're looking at that. Lesley Logan 5:34  Yeah. So at any rate, lots of places. I think there's like 12 cities over the two weeks.Brad Crowell 5:40  We're gonna kick it off in Vegas. So we just added a 13th. Lesley Logan 5:42  Oh, hello, Vegas. Hi, for the love, thanks for being our kickoff location and sending us off on the way. So anyways, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Our headlining sponsor is Balanced Body, that means goodies, and you know, you're gonna get certificate towards buying that piece of equipment you've always wanted. And if you use my link, you get the discount. So boom, extra credit. Okay, then another thing that's happening as we speak now, but in June, hopefully open up the doors to eLevate for 2025. And I know that sounds a little early, but the reality is, is that the mentorship is a nine-month program. There's five weekends, I like to give people plenty of time to get their schedule ready, get ready for it, plan for it, and also be able to pay for it. So it is an investment and I don't take that lightly. So if you are wanting to learn more about eLevate if you want to, if you already know you want to do it, we only take 12 people in a round, you want to go to lesleylogan.co/ew. And by the way, my name is spelled L-E-S-L-E-Y L-O-G-A-N (lesleylogan.co/ew) That means eLevate waitlist.Brad Crowell 6:45  If you missed all that and we still have spots left, just reach out to us. If you want to join us.Lesley Logan 6:51  We don't know if we have spots left because we're recording in theBrad Crowell 6:51  We're recording ahead of time.Lesley Logan 6:55  Ahead of time. Brad Crowell 6:57  But yes, let's shift over to the audience question. So this is from schonliving on Instagram, I'm building my hours towards my Pilates mat certification and I find teaching group classes is much harder than one-on-one. Any tips to overcoming the fear, insecurity, anxiety and the form of impostor syndrome that I'm experiencing from being in front of a group class?Lesley Logan 7:24  Yeah, so schonliving, let me, okay, I love this question. First of all, a lot of people even say that they prefer a class to a private and that's because in the class they like it's kind of chaotic, and they, they don't have, there's a lot going on. So no one will notice that they might be nervous and on a one-on-one people can sense it. So I love that you are so confident on your one-on-ones it's actually quite hard to do. So I would say you're winning. The second thing I would just say is if you find you have imposter syndrome and you're new at anything, so this is for anyone, if you're new at something, you should feel like an imposter. You are new at it. If you didn't feel nervous. You are an egomaniac, narcissistic person who should probably go get like, like checked out. So anyway, here's what I will say is if you haven't listened to last week's episode goes into my my answer on cueing, you are new, you are not going to have it all figured out. You are going to have been a little nervous. What I would say first of all, the thing that I always do when I step into something that makes me nervous, I could just go, it's showtime and I be it till I see it. How would you act if you already were feeling confident teaching group classes? How would you act? How would you hold yourself? Like how would you welcome people into your class? How would you? How would you greet the class? How would you start the class? What is your speech for the class? How would you end the class, right? Don't worry about Brad Crowell 7:24  Yeah, you just be it till you see it.Lesley Logan 8:43  Yeah, don't worry about what you're gonna say in the middle of class. What are the in cast that you can control that you want to say to invite people into a space that you're in control of? Okay, so that's first and foremost. Second, my teacher Jay Grimes would say bad Pilates, get used to it. Dangerous Pilates, never. I always translate that to ugly Pilates, get used to it. Dangerous Pilates, never. When you're teaching a bunch of people who have different learning styles and different abilities of paying attention, it's gonna be a hot mess. So you need to look at a class and like be able to spot danger and correct that. Anything in between danger and perfect, just let it be. Okay? It will, they need to come back and they will get better. So that'd be my other thing. And the next thing is, is that people become teachers and in weekends now, like literally in a weekend or months, maybe showing that you, you've been doing this for a year, I don't know. But something tells me probably not. My teacher would say you're not really a teacher till I've been teaching for five years. And so just teach as many people as you can.Brad Crowell 9:54  Not in a judgment way. But the reality is there's so much to process and dots to connect and you know, just understanding plus you have to, you should be feeling it in your own body, too. You know, so it just takes time, y'all. It takes time.Lesley Logan 10:09  A lot of questions and worries and concerns you have they kind of answer themselves, the more you teach. So what I would say is get some friends together that love you. And to say I need to practice teaching a class and just teach them and they in return should give you testimonials. That's what they should do. That is, but that's going to help you but your goal, of course you're gonna feel nervous. You obviously care about doing well. So that says to me, nervous energy, and impostor syndrome just shows that you care and that you're brand new at something. You would never let a client go, oh, I can't do the 100 on day one. Because (inaudible).Brad Crowell 10:14  You would laugh at them and say, of course you can't. Lesley Logan 10:49  You're new. Brad Crowell 10:50  You just started.Lesley Logan 10:51  So my dear, of course you are nervous. You're new. And so for anyone who does teach Pilates, all this stuff applies to everything you want. You got to be it till you see it. How would you act if you already knew how to do the thing? And second of all, if you're beginner, kindness and graciousness and patience with yourself.Brad Crowell 11:09  Yeah, to yourself with yourself. Exactly. Yeah, great question. Okay. Now let's talk about Nick Hutchison. Nick Hutchison is the founder of BookThinkers, a company dedicated to helping authors promote and market their books. Initially indifferent to reading, Nick's outlook transformed in his early 20s after discovering the transformative power of personal development books. Today, as he's a lifelong learner, he has penned Rise of the Reader and podcast host of BookThinkers, Life Changing Books, his work across various platforms provides valuable strategies for implementing the lessons learned from books into everyday life.Lesley Logan 11:51  Yeah, he's cool. I really, I really enjoy him. I was on his podcast, BookThinkers, by the way. Brad Crowell 11:59  He's the nicest dude. Lesley Logan 11:59  Just really nice, very thoughtful. He's very perceptive. He listens. And he integrates it, he analyzes it, and he puts it out. It's just really wonderful. Get his book, you guys, if you are reading books, so that we're talking about on the podcast, and like, I'm not retaining enough, get his book. It's so, so, so good. It's been so helpful. Based off of his book, he taught a little mini version of it to us at the BBG event we went to, and I found that I took less tasks home, because I was like, the only thing I have to do is this thing, I'm only here for this thing, this is my intention for the next few days. And I really listened to a lot of things I was like, That's a great idea, not mine, that's a great idea, not mine, I left going, I just have these three things I'm going to do when I leave, and it's only been three, it's like two. And I'm really, really happy about it, because it's just great. So go get his book. Brad Crowell 12:47  Love that. Lesley Logan 12:48  One of the things I love he said that don't assume what your audience wants. And we mentioned the four agreements.And so the four Agreements, in case you've not read the book is don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions. The other two are be honorable with your word. If you say you're gonna do it, do it. And then there's a fourth one, always do your best. He said, don't assume what they want, ask them what they want. And then they should be brought along with you. Too often, a lot of people who are in this, maybe you're not wanting to write a book, but maybe you want to create a product or on-demand course or have an event. Most people protect it, hold it preciously to themselves. And then they're like, I get it. Here it is, here's the thing I made for you. But you didn't get any feedback along the way. So they weren't part of building it with you, which means they're not invested in the thing that you're excited about. And you didn't get the feedback along the way to know that they would want blue over green. Brad Crowell 13:35  Well, you guys both used personal experiences to relay, relay this obviously, the the first launch of Agency. You know, there was a lot of emotions tied up in that flop and also a shit ton of hours to spending time to like make this thing actually come together. And then Nick laughed and said, oh, I did that. He built an entire app. And he spent hundreds of hours and tens of thousands of dollars to build this app and nobody used it. And that's because we were making assumptions prior to rolling the thing out and then what you talked about with the flashcards was when you were rolling out the second reformer deck, you share the process along the way. And it got people that much more excited that much more excited. And it was it was considerably more of a powerful experience and launch for people than the first deck. Lesley Logan 14:31  Well, we were just at Pilates on tour in Phoenix. And this one girl is like, oh, I'm on the waitlist for the barrels and I'm like, oh, thank you so much. And I went to update her she's like, oh, I got the email. You're in the editing process right now. And she was so excited. So like take them on the journey because they actually get excited with you. They want to know what's going on. Like it was really cool and we hopefully by the time this comes out, it's on presale, because were obviously recording earlier, but it is part of it. And I can't recall if we've ever talked about this on here, but I'm just gonna bring it up in case you missed the episode. You know, we were at the Soho House couple days where we saw Nick in person last month. And this guy was just like how do you get people to wait for things. And it's really not about waiting for things. It's also about buying things. He was bringing up waiting, but to me how I think about how purchasing power you all listening have the purchasing power, every single one of you. You determine if something is successful or not. So you need to know that in everything that you buy, you actually give feedback based on your dollars. Okay, you've voting dollars, like you have a lot of different things you can think about with your money. And I, I shared that I bring people on the journey, I get them excited, I tell them the process behind the thing. And eight years ago, I might not have done that because I might have been like oh my God they're going to take my idea. They're going to be able to do it. Now they know how to do it. Here's the thing. And Nick and I talked about this. James Altucher says that less than 2% of people, yeah, less than 2% of people actually take action on any idea, let alone yours. And being part of the process makes them want to do it. So at any rate, I really love that he brought that up. I think it's useful not just for authors, but for anyone creating anything anywhere. What did you love that he said?Brad Crowell 16:14  I really loved when he was talking about the different reasons that people use excuses, justifications that people use why they don't read. He was talking about, I'm so busy or in a company, I've got a family, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he he always asks him, if I paid you $10,000 if you read this book in the next month would you do it? And of course, they would say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would totally do it. And he said, great, I've caught you in my trap. And the trap is, is obviously prioritization. We don't prioritize reading so we don't read, right? And his book is pretty cool in that it gives some practical advice on how to read 20 books a year by doing 15 minutes a day, which is 1% of your day. If you, if you do that, you're going to put yourself on track to read those 20 books a year. And he basically said, listen, it's not a question of whether or not we can read the books. It's a question of whether or not we value it enough. Right? It's about picking books that solve problems and build skill sets. And so you know, you know, whether you read as an escape, like, you know, to like to step away from the crazy hectic that you have, or you read to learn. When you're picking up a book for, especially for the learning, the rest of his book helps you actually apply and retain and apply the information that you're learning from that book.Lesley Logan 17:55  Yeah, I mean, I actually do like that you said that. We had another guy who said like, what if I told you if I pay you a million dollars to lose 50 pounds overnight could you do it? And he went like 50 pounds overnight? And he said, sure you could. You could have a leg off. Right? He's like, not ideal, but you could, right? And I Brad Crowell 18:12  He did say that and I was like I heard, he did say that. That's true. Lesley Logan 18:17  There's always a way. And I think it is, you know, like really asking yourself what you're prioritizing. And I think we talked about this in the episode which is like, you know, your entertainment time? Like, how much of it are you watching? Like Netflix? What if you just took a little bit of it, like a little portion of your entertainment time and read a book? That could solve the problem.Brad Crowell 18:35  Well, I laughed when he said, Yeah, it was working for this guy who suggested that I take my drive time, my 10 hours of drive time and start listening to podcasts. And I started taking notes on the pods, then decided to implement some of the strategies on the pods. And later, that same boss was like, wait, hold on. So now you're reading books, you're taking notes on the books, and then you're actually taking that advice and implementing it into your life. And he said, Nick, that's weird. He said nobody does that. That's amazing.Lesley Logan 18:37  He was using it in his job and it was making him way better at his job. And his own boss was like, what? How do you know this? How do you do this? So like it can, if you want to differentiate yourself, like it's not about being like 10 years ahead of some people sometimes just being a little bit ahead and that knowledge is that kind of power. So yeah.Brad Crowell 19:26  It's true. Brad Crowell 19:27  All right, welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Nick Hutchison? He said, set a SMART goal for each of the books that you read. We've talked about SMART goals before. SMART stands, it's an acronym, stands for specific, measurable, attainable, relevant and time-bound goals. Right? So specific, measurable, measurable meaning what's not measured can't really be managed. So set goals that are measurable, attainable. Set a realistic goal, trying to consume too much of an unrealistic goal makes you, it allows procrastination to creep in because it doesn't seem attainable. Then, relevant. You emotionally connect to the information. What does this book going to do for you? Ask yourself why am I actually reading this book and then time-bound. Give yourself an actual deadline to take actions on what you're learning in that book. Or for some of us, it might just be a timeout action to read the damn thing in the first place. Right? So he also includes writing down intentions on the inside cover of the book that you own and then reviewing it every time you read another chapter. So what are your intentions for this book, finished chapter two, go back and read your intentions. finished chapter three, read your intentions, finished chapter four. I think it's a really interesting way to stay focused on what you're trying to get out of the book. And you know, instead of just being like, I'm reading the book, I got through the book. Okay, next. I got through that book, too. I got through this book, too. No, you're actually anchoring, what you're learning against what your intentions for that book were. Pretty cool. Lesley Logan 21:08  Or I think, also, if you, like some books might have several things you can learn from them. But if you stick with one intention, you can always go back through. And like read it with a different intention. Yeah, yeah. But this way, you can actually not just take in information, you can integrate what you're learning, because you're not taking on too much information at one time.Brad Crowell 21:24  I love it. What about you? Lesley Logan 21:25  Okay, he said do a little personal edit, find a problem that you're dealing with and identify the problem and then go there and find a book that can help you solve it correctly. So he said, a lot of us won't do this. He's a warrant. If you don't fix it over the next 30 years, you'll experience that problem almost 11,000 more times. So. Brad Crowell 21:42  It's pretty insane. Lesley Logan 21:43  It's insane. But it's true. Because if you think of like, we have like 60,000, or whatever the amount of thoughts per day, and like 80% of them are like the same thought, because you haven't solved the problem. And you're just like rerunning that in your head. So I would just say, a lot of times people ask for advice on like, what books should I be reading? But yes, you could ask others for that. That could be very helpful. But if you first identify the problem, you might like the book that you pick up first better because it's about you. And we only care about solving our own problems. So there it is. Brad Crowell 22:15  Yeah, yeah. Lesley Logan 22:16  Anyways, Nick is awesome. Just you can actually follow him on Instagram and get really great book advice. You could you can also listen to his podcast BookThinkers to get really great ideas on like, what's a book that can solve a problem that you want to solve? So check him out and let us know what your favorite parts were. Share this with a friend if you've got a friend who's like saying they want to read more. That's a really good episode. Help them understand how they can do that and prioritize that reading goal. And until next time, you guys, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 22:41  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 22:42  Thank you so much for listening. How are you going to use these tips in your life, share with us, share with a friend and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 22:48  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 22:50  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.  Lesley Logan 23:17  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 23:32  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 23:37  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 23:42  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 23:49  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 23:52  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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In this podcast episode, I speak with pilates expert, Robin Long. Robin is the founder and CEO of Lindywell, which is a global wellness platform that reaches millions of women in more than 100 countries around the world. Robin lives and works in sunny Santa Barbara, CA. She obtained her comprehensive Pilates certification through Body Arts and Science International and her barre certification through Balanced Body. She is passionate about creating programs that empower, strengthen, restore and rejuvenate her clients form the inside out. We see more and more evidence supporting the use of Pilates for rehabilitation purposes, so I really enjoyed talking with Robin about how Pilates developed, her business and where Pilates fits into rehab as a tool for treating pain and injury. Click HERE to learn more about Robin's company and work.

Explore the transformative aspects of feminine energy in this insightful Recap episode with Brad and Lesley. Together, they debunk common misconceptions and underline the significant benefits of feminine energy in empowering women to lead with both vulnerability and confidence. Focusing on critical life areas—love, career, and friendships—this episode invites listeners to evaluate their own beliefs, values, and the energies they embody. Discover the importance of balancing masculine and feminine energies, a key to achieving both personal well-being and professional success.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Recognize the benefits of employing feminine energy.Identifying your core values by reflecting on what you don't want.How to examine your masculine energy to shift into a feminine space.Why managing your energy contributes to creating a positive environment.Episode References/Links:OPC Summer CampCambodia 2025 Early BirdOPC Summer TourBarrels Flashcards2025 eLevate Round 5 & New Release of the Mat FlashcardsTower Power Happy Hour with Liza OsoteoMary McMonagle LinktreeMary McMonagle InstagramMary McMonagle PodcastKelli Adame Episode 346 on Masculine Energy  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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And be okay being in it and then also be okay tapping into the masculine energy and just go back to last week's episode and realize if you got stuck in one of those energies, pick the gas pedal off the floor, unstick it from your cyber truck and, you know, shift gears a little bit. Lesley Logan 0:23  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host and life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the transformative convo I had with Mary McMonagle in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that episode, feel free to go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Or you should just listen to this one and then like roll right into the next one. You could add it to your queue. There's different ways to listen to podcast. So thank you for being here. Brad Crowell 1:25  Queue it up. Lesley Logan 1:26  Today is May 16th 2024. And it is Global Accessibility Awareness Day. So this day is a focus on accessibility and Global Accessibility Awareness is celebrated every third Thursday in May. This year, it takes place on May 16th. People are encouraged to discuss, debate and educate themselves on access issues on Global Accessibility Awareness Day. You know, I'm just going to add to this. It doesn't have to be digital. Make yourself aware of things that like would be inaccessible to a lot of people. We were in Nashville and I noticed there are no sidewalks in most of the neighborhoods. I'm like what if someone is in a wheelchair? How are they getting around in this neighborhood? They're not. They're not. You couldn't even walk. And then we were in Mexico. And I was like, how? How is this person going on this sidewalk? So like just you know, different things. Also shout out to Jane Fonda. Who was like doing activism for blind people. I think it's blind people might have been deaf people. No, no, it was deaf people. She learned sign language so she can accept an award in sign language. So she's freaking awesome. I'm not saying you have to go learn sign language, although that does feel like a really cool skill set to have. But just you know, make yourself aware of accessibility issues that could be where you are we can affect places that we are available at and around is a key event that spotlights digital accessibility and inclusion for persons with disabilities to raise awareness and inspire action. Increasing the usability and accessibility of digital products like websites, mobile applications and other online tools is important as everyone needs to have access to the same information no matter what their design disabilities may be. So you know, if you have a website, it's you got to do all the things, guys. You got to, there's an ADA compliance in the United States. And if you are in a different country, it's probably called something else. So figure out what that is. But yeah, I just think it's really cool to just think about because we don't think about things that don't affect us. So try it sometime. It makes you feel like you're part of a bigger community.Brad Crowell 3:18  It's true. Let's get into here's what's coming out.Lesley Logan 3:22  What's coming out, babe? You take it. Brad Crowell 3:23  Okay, okay. Next up is OPC Summer Camp. Y'all were really, really fired up about this. June 1 and 2 join us live for the party. We are going back to camp and it's going to be the best one because you don't have to get dirty. You don't have to use the buddy system to go to the bathhouse you don't have to worry about creaky cabins. You don't have to worry about terrible food. No mosquito bites. No one's going to try to drown you in the lake. Lesley Logan 3:49  Brad and I are your camp directors. Brad Crowell 3:51  Yeah, there's nobody accidentally archery practicing like shooting at kids. You're good. Lesley Logan 3:57  Yeah, we are the camp directors and you have 14 camp counselors. Well, 13 because I'm one of them. Brad Crowell 4:02  Because we're gonna be on Camp Zoom, y'all. Lesley Logan 4:04  Yeah, Camp Zoom. And if you are not catching the vibe of what we're throwing down, think Wet Hot American Summer y'all like it is but without the sexual innuendo jokes. At any rate, we are having a great time. We have seven classes and seven workshops over two days. It is done live but there will be replays in perpetuity for those who purchased them. So if you cannot join us live, you are going to miss out on Camp Zoom, but you are still going to be able to be part of summer camp in a way that you never ever could before because you know if you, in camps, usually you have to be there. Brad Crowell 4:38  And speaking about making accessible. Our whole goal with this was to put you all who are probably, many of you are probably way into Pilates because obviously that's most of the community that we speak to but we're putting a bunch of classes and workshops in for people who might not be Pilates diehards, right, but this will be a really appealing topic to them such as. Lesley Logan 5:01  Every single class and workshop is meant for whether you're a Pilates lover or a Pilates teacher so, because everybody is a Pilates practitioner. Yeah, so the topics include pelvic floor, knee pain, hypermobility, breast cancer survivor. We have endurance athlete workouts. We have a happy hip workout. I'm super excited about we have a workshop on modifications for the Wunda chair if you have back issues, we have Rachel Piper's doing the long stretch series. We've got Control Your Balance on the Mat. So many. Oh, Tammy is helping us build strength on the reformer.Brad Crowell 5:37  Love it.Lesley Logan 5:38  So many I mean.Brad Crowell 5:39  And we have a happy hour. So if they don't want to do anything else tell them to come to the happy hour. Lesley Logan 5:43  So tower power happy hour's Liza (inaudible). It's a class. She said bring your, bring your own bubbles and so I'm sure she means she's doing sparkling water but that one you'll actually like feel you're laughing the whole time. Like Lisa just makes me laugh. So at any rate, come. Come, sign up. Brad Crowell 6:01  So go to opc.me/events, opc.me/events.Lesley Logan 6:04  And you can buy ala cart or you can buy the day pass. Savings is at the day pass but get it while it's on Early Bird, guys.Brad Crowell 6:10  Do it, do it, do it. All right, next up, we got Cambodia. We are going back again to Cambodia. We've been talking about it this trip, this year for our 2024. But guess what? This year is sold out. What? So we decided to add early next year, February 2025. We're going to be going it's also another amazing time of the year this is actually the two times a year that we historically had gone until COVID really jacked everything up. But we would go in Feb and we would go the end of the year.Lesley Logan 6:38  Except for that time we did March and it was really hot and it was right before the pandemic so we were alone in the country. It was amazing.Brad Crowell 6:45  That's true. But, go to lesleylogan.co/retreats with an 'S' to get on the waitlist. We may actually be on early bird right now as you're listening to this. So when you sign up for that waitlist we'll send you an email right away telling you hey, actually, it's open check it out. But, lesleylogan.co/retreats.Lesley Logan 7:03  And the OPC Summer Tour is around the corner you know.Brad Crowell 7:07  Yes, not to be confused with Summer Camp. Lesley Logan 7:09  No, these are two different things. Brad Crowell 7:10  This is Summer Tour. Lesley Logan 7:10  Summer Camp, you join us on Zoom. Summer Tour, we're coming to you.Brad Crowell 7:13  We're coming to you.Lesley Logan 7:14  And our headline sponsor is Balanced Body again. So lots of good things are coming from that. Brad Crowell 7:19  Yeah, it's gonna be great. Lesley Logan 7:20  So you want to go opc.me/tour so that you can find out what stops we're going to and I'm just saying if it's under four-hour drive, you should do it and we did have people who did six hours just to come to class so just. We definitely did and it was a party. No pressure. Brad Crowell 7:32  We had a really good time. And okay, next up. Y'all know how much time and energy I have spent trying to write all these damn flashcards for the barrels? Lesley Logan 7:40  Zero for me, but for me, we're over 400 hours. So you want to go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist this might be the last chance to get on that waitlist to get the presale price. We areBrad Crowell 7:50  We may be in presale for this right now as well. Lesley Logan 7:52  Yeah and it's a short window. So opc.me/flashcardwaitlist for the barrels flashcards.Brad Crowell 7:58  If you missed the barrels window, just add yourself to, we still have one more deck coming up next year. Lesley Logan 8:03  Yeah, so just add yourself to the waitlist anyways, for that. I'm not telling you the thing that we gotBrad Crowell 8:07  Next up we got eLevate. So Lesley is going to be doing eLevate round five in 2025. Right? So we're going to be figuring all that out and doing enrollment and everything this summer. But if you've ever wanted to know all the things that Lesley has learned from her teacher, Jay, who was a student of Joseph Pilates, this is where Lesley gets to actually pass on all this information. It is a nine-month program. It is incredible the transformation (inaudible).Lesley Logan 8:34  And when you graduate, you still chat with me, I actually tell a few girls today about some stuff that's going on in theirBrad Crowell 8:39  There's a thriving alumni community. But the transformation for you as someone who was like already teaching Pilates is you will be connecting the dots on all the pieces of equipment. You will be understanding the Pilates method at a higher level. You will be confident when you meet a client that you don't have to spend an hour preparing for them before you teach them, right? You'll be able to look at their body and understand this is what they need to get them to the goals that they have, right, and it takes away all the class planning time. It's just been amazing for me to hear all the feedback from everyone who's gone through it. And then really what isanother incredible thing is you're building new relationships with amazing women all around the world that are gonna last you for a lifetime. Right? It has been so fun for us to see people partner up, go through this program together. And then they're besties it's like, you know, like how often does that happen?Lesley Logan 9:36  Heather and Christine actually teach each other every single week. Every single week. Brad Crowell 9:40  Yeah. Amazing. So go to lesleylogan.co/ew that's for eLevate waitlist. E-WLesley Logan 9:48  We'll be opening up the application this summer for 2025. So and it's limited. I only take 12 people in a group. Brad Crowell 9:54  That's right. All right. Lesley Logan 9:56  All right. Before I go into Mary's amazingness Do we have an audience question?Brad Crowell 10:00  Yes, we sure do. This is from Prada. Lesley Logan 10:03  Prada and Pilates, Brad. Brad Crowell 10:05  Oh, Prada and Pilates. Yeah, I thought it was Pilates IG. Yeah. Prada and Pilates from Instagram. When is your next in-person event, Dear Lesley?Lesley Logan 10:16  So it's going to be the Summer Tour. Yeah, that's our next in-person. And then there's a winter tour. And in between there's a retreat. But if you didn't, if you're not signed up for that, you can't sign up for that yet it's in February. So yeah.Brad Crowell 10:30  Yeah. Sorry you missed it. No, so Summer Tour is going to be in August. Winter Tour is gonna be in December. Summer Tour, we're going through the Midwest. Like we said, winter tour we're probably going to do.Lesley Logan 10:39  We're doing a lot, everything but the West Coast. Brad Crowell 10:41  Yeah, we're going all the way up. We make all the way to Maine, y'all. Working it out, working it out. Lesley Logan 10:46  You're asking because I don't do a lot of in-persons anymore. And I just had someone asked me when I'm gonna come to Greece and teach. So here's the deal if you were wanting me to come somewhere to teach, and you do not live in the continental United States, where I can put it on a tour. I don't know. Because I'm not doing a lot of in-person pop ups all over the place. Unless I can actually connect a bunch of cities at one time. To be honest, I love going in and teaching around the world. Like I'm so blessed and honored that I get to do that. But pre-COVID, every month, every two weeks, I was flying to a different country. I like I literally went to Spain, came home for five days and then went to the UK. That's stupid. It was amazing. But it was crazy. And I'm 41. And I love where I live. And so I want to come and see you. But I have to put things together so that Brad and I can like make the most of a 12-hour flight, make the most of an 18-hour flight. And so if you want me to come where you are, let me know. And what we'll do is we'll gather up all of you I'm gonna come to a similar area, and we'll figure out a way to make a European tour or Canadian Tour or Australian tour. It's definitely that I want to do it. I just also want to honor my family and my dogs and my business. It's whenever we leave, the whole business actually like stops and they, our team makes things go but like, it's really hard. Brad Crowell 12:11  So get yourself on a waitlist of ours, right? Lesley Logan 12:14  Lastly, I just want to say, it would be weird of me to coach you on being it until you see it and having boundaries and taking care of yourself first if I didn't do it first. So this is not, I don't like you or I don't want to. I absolutely want to. I want to make it work for everybody. Brad Crowell 12:28  It's not you. It's me. Lesley Logan 12:29  It really is. And it's, it sounds cliche, those people, you know, people fuck that up in the dating world. It is okay for it to be you. It is okay for it to be me. And it's okay for us to figure out a way to make it work together. So thank you for this question. I hope to see you on Summer Tour.Brad Crowell 12:42  Yeah, go to opc.me/tour. All right, now let's talk about Mary McMonagle. Mary is a New Jersey-based intuitive healer and feminine energy coach specializing in guiding high-achieving women from masculine-driven control to a life lead with heart and vulnerability. Founder of True Tribe and host of the Living Your True Vibe Podcast, Mary empowers women to lead with their feminine energy, ensuring they remain grounded, yet flow effortlessly to achieve their aspirations.Lesley Logan 13:15  Yeah, I'm actually going to have an episode on her podcast that should be coming out at the same time that this one is.Brad Crowell 13:21  Oh cool. Lesley Logan 13:21  Yeah, it's really cool. We had a really great conversation, I really enjoyed the questions she asked. So she's, she's a cool chick. And she's done some amazing things. And she shares a lot of vulnerability. So I love that. She, one of the things I liked that she said, it's so important to really look at your values and ask yourself are you being that. And I think a lot of times when we're really frustrated with ourselves, we're outside of our values, we are not in alignment with our values. And that is when things can get a little frustrating. And when we are within our values were aligned with our values, it makes it so much easier to talk ourselves off a cliff. We're like, Oh, my God, I didn't do the thing over there. It's like, well, if it's not aligned with your values, so you didn't do it. So you can actually just live confidently in that. And I think, I think a lot of ways to actually have confidence is going back to last week's episode for a second is, knowing what your values are. And if you don't know what they are, it's really hard to be in alignment with them. So homework, if you don't know your values is to do them. And if you came on the business retreat we did this year, you got your values, and it was so fun to see those girls get their values. And so at any rate, I thoroughly agree with that. So yeah, I thought that was really fun. What about you? Brad Crowell 14:27  Yeah. Well, before we even go into that, this has been a couple times that we've had this idea of feminine versus masculine energy on the podcast, and Lesley Logan 14:38  Oh yeah, people love episode 346. Shout out to Cassie. Brad Crowell 14:41  They did. Well, you know, when I heard this again, I was like, huh, we're going to talk through this again. And I thought it was interesting to hear her talk about the benefits of feminine energy versus just feminine versus masculine. The way that I imagined feminine energy is it's not, it's not a good thing. It's not a win. It's not a positive, right? And she she kind of broke down the misconceptions, the preconceptions that we have, between the two, the two things and why you would want to incorporate feminine energy in. And not only that, that bringing feminine energy into your world does not mean that you still can't be a badass, you still can't be a supermom still can't be, you know, taking names. It's just a different approach. And I thought it was, I thought it was revealing, I thought it was really helpful for me to kind of understand that a little bit better. So I appreciated that. One of the things that I loved, she said, we figure out what our values are by identifying what we don't want. You know, like, if you feel stuck, when someone's like, what do you want to be when you grow up? You're like, I don't know. But I definitely don't want to be this other thing over here. That's a great place to get started. You might not know what you want. But you probably can say, well, I definitely know what I don't want. And so if you're ever feeling stuck, you can flip it on its head and ask that question of like, what's the opposite here? Maybe I can identify what I don't want. And that can help me slowly piece together this bigger vision for my life? Lesley Logan 16:22  Yeah, I think we've had that same sentiment come up before in the podcast on different things. That's like, Who do you want to be? It's like, Who don't you want to be? What do you want? Sometimes it's hard for us to envision, like, I think the other day you mentioned, like, what do you want, and you're like sleep. And it's a little weird that that's the first thing that comes up. It's like, for me, it's a G Wagen. Clearly, but sometimes we don't know what we want to get, we get so out of alignment, that it's going to take us a while we have to start with what we don't want to help us envision that. I want to just highlight like, I just want to go back to the feminine/masculine energy. I think society will say that being in your feminine is a negative thing. So I just want to clarify that you, Brad don't think that the feminine energy is a negative thing. But like that, the people will say, oh, like because people will think that you have it's weaker or like it's wrong to show your feelings. Brad Crowell 17:12  Yeah, there are negative connotations associated with it. And no, I don't think I mean, you know, that, that having feminine energy or focusing on feminine energy is bad. And I alsoLesley Logan 17:23  I think, because it's like a superpower to be a vulnerable person who can also receive, receive support, receive love receive?Brad Crowell 17:30  Well, also from Kelli Adame what she was talking about with it, is that there are times when men are also employing feminine energy. Right? And that is also a positive thing. Lesley Logan 17:40  Because we have both energies inside of us. Brad Crowell 17:42  Yes, yes. We're not one or the other. Lesley Logan 17:44  Yes. And, and so.Brad Crowell 17:46  But again, that's a preconception. Lesley Logan 17:47  Yeah. And I, 100% what I would say is see your feminine energy as a superpower. And be okay being in it. And then also be okay, tapping into the masculine energy. And just like, go back to last week's episode. And realize, if you got stuck in one of those energies, pick the gas pedal off the floor, unstick it from your cyber truck, and, you know, shift gears a little bit, you know, we're allowed to flow between the two in your day.Brad Crowell 18:16  Well, that takes you right back to the second part of what I wanted to talk about, which is, you know, just, it is important to identify if you if you're feeling stuck identifying what you do want, then maybe you can employ identifying what you don't want, but you don't wanna get stuck in what you don't want. Right? The idea is that planning negativity, and that whole energy is it's easy to tap into that and then we we end up staying in that. So don't do that. Okay. Lesley Logan 18:45  Don't do that. Brad Crowell 18:45  This, this is what I don't want. But it's going to help me identify what I do. Lesley Logan 18:50  Yeah, I love it. All right, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Because I took over Brad's role, hahaha.Brad Crowell 18:56  What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items, can we take away from your convo with Mary McMonagle? She said, do something you are avoiding. She talks about how like something that you might be craving, somehow you could also be avoiding that. Be specific. When I think of something I'm avoiding, it actually causes stress, like in my gut, in my heart right inside of my chest, actually. And because I know I should be doing the thing, but I just don't want to do it. Right? Whatever the thing might be. And that could be you know, it's probably not like tackling a project in the shed that doesn't really matter. It doesn't really affect things, but what it could be is, you know, booking a doctor's appointment, you know, because whatever reason, it's just the last thing on my list that never gets done. Right? And I'm not craving booking my doctor's appointment, but it is something that I might have been avoiding. Right? So the idea is ultimately be specific. You know, you don't want to say I want to be better at you know, I guess what you could say is I want to be better at community right? So if you want to be better at community, that's not specific enough. You want to say, alright, what are some things that I could do to further that? Right? So maybe it's I'm going to text a person, what to think about them. And that could be as simple as that. And it just takes two seconds of like, hey, I'm thinking about you hope you're well, right kind of a thing. But that's being specific that will help you in your overall journey of, you know, working on community.Lesley Logan 20:25  Yeah, I think I really enjoyed that. Like, I think it's a really good place to start. Okay. Brad Crowell 20:32  What about you?Lesley Logan 20:32  So she brought up the masculine and feminine energy for Be It Action Items. I mean, she was like, a way to start shifting into your feminine is to examine your masculine first, and we have another mirror, be it, which is really funny that these are two happening two weeks in a row. But this one is to examine three areas in your life, love, career and friendships, and start to think about your Brad Crowell 20:51  Love, career and friendships. Lesley Logan 20:53  Yeah, love, career and friendships, sort of think about your beliefs that are around feminine energy. Two, is to focus on what will be your values around feminine energy, meaning what foot the focus on the being. And then three, let go of the title, mom, business owner, etc. and ask, what is that vibrational frequency? And are you allowing yourself to receive that first and so there's a lot here to unpack. To me, I think it's going to take some time. But I think if you actually I'm gonna bring in Norda Kaiser's amazing little are you a star athlete or are you a fan? And so if you look at love, and you ask yourself, am I star athlete or am I a fan? Here's how do you know. A star athlete would actually look at the areas that they did really well and examine how they did that. And then they would look at the areas where they didn't feel they did well and then they would go and do practice to get stronger at that. A fan is who are, oh they missed that. Super judgmental, super excited about things when they go well, but if they don't go well, they're like, he missed that. And it's very judgy. And so just notice where you are judging yourself in the love, career and friendships and shift into being that star athlete. And that is going to actually, when you put yourself in that place, yes, it can be more masculine the way to think about taking action, but the way to actually take the action is to receive, receive feedback and support and be in a more feminine space to actually get into being an observation and not being like super judgy. So that's just that's just a way that I interpreted how to like, examine those two, those three areas. And then I loved, I really loved the part where it's like the vibrational frequency because we when we put titles like mom, entrepreneur, you know, different titles, wife, we actually often put definitions that we didn't actually take the time to create. And we put, we use the title has different definitions that the world has told us what a mom is, you know, if somebody's friends who like Brad Crowell 22:53  Let's break this down, I'm a little stuck on this concept of a vibrational frequency. Ask what is that vibrational frequency? I don't know what that means. Lesley Logan 23:00  Yeah. So okay. The way I understood it, the way I'm taking it is, it's a be it till you see it kind of thing. How do you want to feel, what is the energy you're going to bring to the title before you put the title in front of it. So if you are a mom, there's all this mom guilt that's going the fuck around. And it's like, as soon as you're, as soon as the baby is born and they hand you the baby and a load of mom guilt. And it's kind of crazy to me, because like, who is actually doing that? Who is actually putting the guilt on you? Right? Those people shouldn't be your friends. But if you were to take mom away, and you ask yourself, Who do I want to be in this role? And how does that, what is that frequency? So going back to Gay Hendricks because we talked about frequency with him, fear and excitement are on the same frequency. It's just that like, you actually are going from worry to joy. So if you actually can think about like, some feelings have a lower vibration, right? A lower like negative, like heavy, some things have a higher vibration. That doesn't mean you need a high vibration all the time and low, like high and low don't mean bad or good. But like, what, how do you want to feel? What is the energy you want to bring to the role that you're doing? And then you can actually put yourself in that position versus if you put the title on it sometimes we put that title comes with the definition and it comes with expectations that are not the same as what you would bring to that. So that would be the more masculine energy around like trying to be what the, what society tells you a mom is or business owner is versus like how you want to have, how you want to be at that moment and then that could allow you to be in a feminine energy around that thing or masculine depending on what you want to do. It's complicated. Lesley Logan 24:45  Well, that was just a lot. I mean, definitely little more clarity on that. Just over here trying to define woowoo words. Brad Crowell 24:54  Well, I appreciate it. Lesley Logan 24:55  Everything has a frequency, though. Brad Crowell 24:57  It does. Lesley Logan 24:57  Yeah, and that's why I like, also, you know. Brad Crowell 25:01  That you were talking about your feeling, you were talking about with the dog today when you were out. Like my own response to some people versus others. Don't even pay them any money. Lesley Logan 25:10  Oh, yeah, like this one woman, we were standing in line, and there's one right behind us. And he didn't even like go to her and another woman got in line and he went right up to her. And she was like, ready to receive him. Like, just like, how does he know that she's a dog person, right? So we all are putting these frequencies out. Also, you got to notice like, sometimes if I'm in a low vibration, I am aware because I, you start to respond differently to me. And vice versa. Sometimes I've had to say, you need to leave the room because your vibrate., your energy is changing the vibe.Lesley Logan 25:42  Yeah, we also associate this with charisma. Yes, yes. Brad Crowell 25:47  Yeah. Totally. Lesley Logan 25:48  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 25:49  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 25:49  Thank you so much for listening to this episode today. How are you going to use these tips in your life we want to know. Make sure you tag the Be It Pod. Share this with a friend. That's how the podcast grows is if you share it with a friend. We, podcast need reviews and listeners. That is currency for us. Brad Crowell 26:02  So dial up your frequency and get it out there. Lesley Logan 26:04  Yeah, you'll have to step into your masculine to send it out but then let your friends be in the feminine and receive. Boom, there it is.Brad Crowell 26:11  Solve the world's problems.Lesley Logan 26:12  Right there. Have an amazing day and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 26:16  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 26:18  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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SummaryIn this conversation, Lisa Davis and Amy K. Wilson discuss the importance of becoming a pro-fat burner and preventing disease through nutrition and fitness. They emphasize that being skinny does not equal being healthy and that the goal should be to be the best version of oneself. They also discuss the misconception of spot reducing and the importance of focusing on overall health and reducing inflammation. Amy shares her expertise as a board-certified geriatric pharmacist and highlights the need for proactive and preventative measures to maintain health and avoid chronic diseases. They also touch on the importance of nutrition and the balance of protein, fats, and carbohydrates in meals. In this conversation, Lisa Davis and Amy K. Wilson discuss the importance of a balanced approach to health and fitness. They emphasize the need to focus on overall health rather than just weight loss, and the dangers of extreme diets and over-exercising. They also highlight the role of nutrition in disease prevention and the importance of muscle mass for longevity. Amy shares her approach to working with clients, which includes a focus on progress over perfection and personalized modifications for individual needs. They also discuss the importance of strength training and the benefits of incorporating whole foods into the diet.Keywords: pro-fat burner, prevent disease, nutrition, fitness, skinny vs healthy, spot reducing, overall health, inflammation, geriatric pharmacist, proactive, preventative measures, nutrition balance, health, fitness, balanced approach, weight loss, extreme diets, over-exercising, disease prevention, muscle mass, longevity, nutrition, progress over perfection, personalized modifications, strength training, whole foodsTakeawaysBeing skinny does not equal being healthy; the goal should be to be the best version of oneself.Spot reducing is a misconception; focus on overall health and reducing inflammation.Proactive and preventative measures are crucial for maintaining health and avoiding chronic diseases.Nutrition plays a significant role in health, and a balance of protein, fats, and carbohydrates is important in meals. Focus on overall health rather than just weight lossAvoid extreme diets and over-exercisingNutrition plays a crucial role in disease preventionMaintaining muscle mass is important for longevityProgress over perfection in fitness and nutritionPersonalized modifications for individual needsIncorporate strength training into your fitness routineChoose whole foods for a balanced dietSound Bites"Skinny doesn't equal healthy.""We're not meant to be sticks. We're meant to be strong.""Get rid of the scale that you think that is where you should be tracking your progress.""I lost inches like crazy because I was over exercising. I was undereating. I was stressing out my body.""How about we put all the pieces of the puzzle together for six weeks to see what happens?""I love the fact that you wanna keep your curves. That is amazing because you just wanna make yourself healthier, stronger, the best version of you."Chapters00:00Introduction and Overview02:55Getting Rid of the Scale and Focusing on Progress04:13Functionality, Health, and Longevity05:16The Role of a Geriatric Pharmacist07:36The Cost of Neglecting Health08:12The Importance of Nutrition in Health10:00Healthy Eating: Flavorful and Great11:21Accepting and Embracing Our Bodies12:28Understanding Water Weight and Body Composition15:01Tracking Macros and Finding Balance19:23The Fast Way of Fat Loss Program20:26The Importance of a Balanced Approach to Health and Fitness23:13Size is Not Healthy24:19The Role of Muscle Mass in Longevity26:03Inflammation and its Effects on Health29:20Progress Over Perfection in Fitness and Nutrition33:19Personalized Modifications for Individual Needs35:05The Benefits of Strength Training36:08Incorporating Whole Foods into Your Diet

Brad and Lesley delve into Jordan Dunin's journey of recovery and discovery—exploring his emphasis on self-ownership, identity transformation, and the power of envisioning your goals. Join the conversation and discover insights on how to empower yourself to overcome challenges and manifest your aspirations. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Recognize how your actions or mindset may be contributing to the issues you face.The value of coaching as a guided pathway towards overcoming challenges.The impact of daily habits on our identity and overall outcomes.The importance of visualization and feeling it in order to be it.  Episode References/Links:HatchPath WebsiteMay AcceleratorCambodia Feb 2025 Early BirdOPC Summer CampTo Grip or Not to Grip, That is the Sock QuestionRob Mack Episode  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Brad Crowell 0:00  He said he thinks that habit change and identity is something that really leads to success. It comes down to what we do day to day and if we do something tomorrow different than we did today, so yeah for us I mean, this is literally the be it. This is being it till you see it. Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:01  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the influential convo I had with Jordan Dunin in in our last episode. If you haven't yet, listened to that episode, you can listen to it now and then come back and listen to our takeaways. You can listen to our takeaways as your spoiler alerts for what you're gonna listen to on that one. It's kind of fun. I know people listen to all the podcasts at least once some of them have gone back through the whole library again, which is kind of insane because this is episode 359. Holy fucking Molly. Today is April 25th. It is Love Your Thighs Day. About Love Your Thighs Day. Love your thighs. Whoo. Love Your Thighs is celebrated on the fourth Thursday of April every year and this year falls on April 25th. Women all over the world have a love hate relationship with their bodies. They're constantly encouraged to love their bodies and society where beauty standards have been predefined and sometimes unreachable. Love Your Thighs Day seeks to mitigate this and tell all women around the world that no matter what your bodies look like they should love them because it's theirs to cherish. And one of my favorite clothing lines that I like to wear has a shirt that says fuck a thigh gap. And another one that says like thick thighs save lives. And I just love them. I think what I get frustrated with is that we had a couple of years where the media was not talking about toning and slimming and burning belly fat. And we're back to that bullshit. And it's so annoying to try to be an educator in a world where the media wants this stuff. And guess why they want this stuff because it sells magazines. So please stop fucking buying that shit. If you want it to stop, we have to as a collective say I don't want an article on how to slim my thighs. I want an article how to love my thighs. I don't want an article on how to tone my arms in five minutes, I actually want an article on how to strengthen my arms so that I can be older in this world and have a great time in menopause. We are a huge amount of people that can demand what we want. So we need to, this is my call to action, demand it from these publications because I'm pissed off about it and I'm sure my publicist is like you've just stopped telling us like there's no such thing as that that can never happen and here's what you can do. Okay.Brad Crowell 3:09  Nice. Lesley Logan 3:10  Anyways, I'm just on a pedestal over here just a little pissed off.Brad Crowell 3:13  Yeah, upcoming events and travel.Lesley Logan 3:14  So, tomorrow, literally tomorrow, we are going to be at POT, that's Pilates On Tour, Balanced Body's Pilates On Tour Phoenix, April 26th to the 28th. Come see us in person we have a booth. The May is just literally around the corner and so the May Accelerator, you can go to prfit.biz/accelerator. That is our two-hour workshop that Brad leads that will help you grow your studio. So if you are an instructor or studio owner that works for yourself, this workshop is for you. And it's not just where you get thrown up on an information that you'll then go back to work and never integrate.Brad Crowell 3:45  No, it's an actual workshop. We're going to work on your stuff together in the workshop. It's gonna be good it's gonna be for people who are new to teaching or people who've been, had a studio for 20 years and they're just kind of feeling like okay, I've got my clients but the needle is not moving. This workshop is also for you, too.Lesley Logan 4:00  Yeah. And then also happening in May is another early bird for Cambodia because October trip is so sold out, it's so sold out so you have to actually sign up for the February opportunity and those on the waitlist are going to get the early bird if you're not on the waitlist you're just going to hear about Cambodia, but when you actually can sign up for it, it will be full price. And the last one almost sold out on early bird. So just saying, you want to think about that. So go to lesleylogan.co/retreats to get on that waitlist. And finally upcoming is our June OPC Summer Camp. Oh my gosh, it is, okay, I think it's eight events each day. We have OPC teachers and guest teachers who are all OPC members and we have workshops and workouts. I'm leading a workout and a workshop and other people are leading their workshops or workouts. We've got something for everybody, hyper mobile, strength building, reformer workouts, tower workouts, mat workouts, soccer, runners, like we've got something for everybody so you want to go to opc.me/events opc.me/events stay on the waitlist because if you're an OPC member, you get the best early bird you will just give me email for that. And if you're not an OPC member and you're on the waitlist, you'll get the second best early bird but if you're not an OPC member and you're not on the waitlist, you get the third best early bird which is not the same as the first best or second best. So get on the waitlist. opc.me/events Brad Crowell 5:19  opc.me/events all right.Lesley Logan 5:21  Okay, we have an audience question before we get into Jordan's episode. Brad Crowell 5:25  We do from YouTube. Sofia asked, should you wear grip socks to Pilates? Are they necessary? Lesley Logan 5:32  Yeah, so I love this question so much that we actually did a whole live on it for our YouTube channel because it's really appropriate for our subscribers over there. So if you are a YouTube subscriber first of all, thanks so much. For the OPC subscriber, you can subscribe to this podcast and we thank you for that too, especially if you want to see what's happening behind this microphone. Brad Crowell 5:51  Yeah, this podcast has its own YouTube channel. Lesley Logan 5:53  Yeah, yeah. But on the Online Pilates Classes YouTube channel, I actually answered this in a very a lot of detail. But do you so here's a quick story, do you need to wear grip socks, not unless it's a studio mandatory thing. So if you're at your own home, you don't need to your bare feet are unless you have sweaty feet are going to be great and super solid and not very slippery. That being said, if you have super sweaty feet, or you're going into a public studio, grip socks are really great and a lot of studios require them, I require them because people's toenail polish was like rubbing off on my equipment, but a lot of people require them because of germs. Just like you know, like you're stepping on the dirty floor that people just walk past to go the bathroom, you know what I mean? Like just the grip socks are really great. They also do ensure that your feet are sticky on the equipment. Most importantly, don't wear regular socks if the socks don't have grip on them or the grip has gotten old time for new socks. And we have ads on the show every single week about Toesox and Tavi socks. I am an ambassador for them. And so if you just go to toesox.com or Tavi Active, you can actually use my code Lesley L-E-S-L-E-Y to get a discount on anything. And that includes their Vooray bags, by the way. So like, go get some sox go get some sticky socks, and they're really great. Some people use them (inaudible). They have really cool bags. Really, really cool bags. So anyway, Sofia, I love this question. I went into more detail on the YouTube channel. So we'll make sure that link is there if you want to actually see me talk about the socks and explain more details about how the socks can actually help you over there. For you guys who have questions, there's no question that's off limits, we will answer it. It's a great way for us to get to know you, for us to support you, for us to help you with what's going on. So ask a question, it can be Pilates, it can be business, it can be life, can be you know, somebody asked the other day what what shorts I was wearing? And I was like, yeah, and I was like, okay, let me see what shorts I was wearing. So, you know, we're here to help.Brad Crowell 7:11  Reach out, you know, reach out, lots of ways to do that. Okay, now let's talk about Jordan Dunin. Jordan Dunin's life took a dramatic turn following a serious accident in 2016, leading to a traumatic brain injury in a battle with chronic Lyme disease. Today, he's the founder of HatchPath, and a passionate life coach. Jordan uses his journey of recovery and discovery to empower others, emphasizing his roles as a father and half marathoner in his mission to foster wellness, human connections and support others in their own health challenges. Pretty dramatic story.Lesley Logan 7:50  Oh, my god. First of all, I can't believe he didn't die. Brad Crowell 7:54  Yeah, if y'all have not listened to the episode, he banged his head. And it was like, I don't know. It sounds like it was a pretty intense bang on the head. But somehow the hospital released him. And he literally was working in finance, he went back to work and was like, I can't see my computer screen. Lesley Logan 8:48  Yeah, no (inaudible).Brad Crowell 8:48  He dropped out of college. Lesley Logan 8:50  Yeah, just life changing. And I mean, there was some reasons like he part of it was like, he didn't want to admit how hurt he was. Brad Crowell 8:57  Right. Sure. Lesley Logan 8:57  And you know, doctors can't help what they can't see. So anyways, it was just a lot. But he has turned that around. And then taken, like, what he saw as a problem is like, hey, it's really hard to figure out who to hire like where these coaches are, like, all this stuff. And he created Hatch, which is like, is really awesome. But before we get into that one thing I liked that he said is like, we are the only constant of all of our problems. That's what a lot of his coaches said. And so in 2020, he was the leading factor to his illness. And so he said, whatever your problem is, you are there, or you are part of it in a way. Brad Crowell 9:34  Yeah, whatever your problem is, you are there. You're in the middle of it. Yeah, I think it's really easy to do this. I mean, this is effectively stories that we tell ourselves, you know, and we talk, we talk about this so many times in the pod of like, okay, this is what I'm telling myself. So I'm, you know, I'm believing this thing. And Lesley Logan 10:00  Well, we put the problem outside of ourselves, like, we don't have control of it like, oh, my injury caused X, Y and Z. Brad Crowell 10:06  Well, yeah, that too. But I mean, even the story of like, oh, well, it's not that bad. You know, like, maybe that's what he was telling himself. Which is why he wasn't taking action.Lesley Logan 10:16  Yeah. And so I think like,Brad Crowell 10:20  I think it's like denial. Lesley Logan 10:21  Well, a lot of us or a lot of us do this all the time. And it doesn't have to be on such a grand scale that he experienced it. But like, anytime you are saying, oh, because, like, you know, we coach teachers, and when, like, when my clients won't reschedule their own sessions. Okay. Well, you're part of that problem. Brad Crowell 10:37  That's right. Lesley Logan 10:37  You are, you are, and I get they're 70. Guess what? Brad Crowell 10:40  Well, you know what my coach said to me, which was tough. I said, I've got this developer who, like, just isn't delivering his work on time. And my coach said to me, well, how does that help you? Why are you allowing that to happen? And I was like, what? It doesn't fucking help me. And I'm not allowing it to happen. He's like, well, you are allowing it to happen, he still works for you. What are you talking about? I was like, oh, how's it helping me? Why am I not addressing this problem? It must be easier for me to not address the problem than it is to have the results of what I wanted from this guy. Right? And I was like, that was tough for me to kind of wrap my head around and tough for me to swallow. You know, same thing, though. That's like, wherever your problem is. You are there.Lesley Logan 11:26  Yeah. And I think like to go back to my story, because we have, (inaudible) business leaders listening to us. I get that your 70-plus-year-old clients don't want to learn technology. I'm gonna tell you right now, their fucking microwave is more complicated than your scheduling tool, like their dishwasher. Like they have things in their life that they have figured out because they had to or they wanted to, and if they choose not to, and you want to like, okay, I want them as a client, you can say the only way I can reschedule you is in person. That's it, I'll do it. But it has to be during your session time. It's going to cut into your session time. And I'm not going to do it outside of your session time. So guess what? They will figure it out the moment they need to change it. Brad Crowell 11:26  They sure fucking will because it's annoying. Lesley Logan 12:06  I'm telling you they will. And if your scheduling tool is complicated, get a new one. Get one that's not get one that is pretty simple. Because it should be easy for the user and you complain about they won't do it. And it's multiple days, you're allowing this problem to happen. Brad Crowell 12:19  Yep. Yep. Jordan said the way he looks at coaching is that it's a path. Right? And because it's really interesting, we haven't talked about HatchPath, yet, but effectively, he was out there trying to find help for himself. And he said there was no real database of vetted, like, vetted coaches like and coaches isn't necessarily life coaching, it could have been exercise or you know, mindset or Lesley Logan 12:47  You're just Googling whoever's the best better SEO which means, you gotta pay to play like Brad Crowell 12:51  It doesn't make them the top-qualified thing. And you know, there was no real trusted resource. And he said, now, today, what HatchPath is, is a, basically a platform where they interview different coaches in across five different topics. Like, I can't actually remember them, but it's like fitness, spirituality, mindset, stuff like that. And they have these conversations with these coaches before they allow the coach to list themselves on the platform. And he said, when he interviews them, and he's looking for coach with empathy, right, that's like a really, really big sticking point for him. And he said, the best coaches, coaches, something that they've already overcome themselves. So that's why today he coaches people on Lyme disease, because he overcame Lyme disease. And he said, there are coaches who coach on anxiety, weight loss, weight gain, there's no one size fits all for health. Lesley Logan 13:47  That's so true. Brad Crowell 13:48  Which is why he has all sorts of different coaches on the platform, which I thought was really interesting. Lesley Logan 13:53  Yeah, I love that he took this problem then created a solution. And not only is it allowing him to potentially help more people for what he specializes in, it's actually allowing people, all these coaches can be in one place and they're vetted. And then also, all these people can go and it makes me so excited, because what if the Lyme person like recovers from that, but then wants coaching on something else they don't have to, like, start fresh and find something new, they can actually go throughout what has been created for them to help them all succeed. I just think it's great. I think everyone wins on this. Brad Crowell 14:24  Yeah, I feel like our insurance system tried to do this with doctors and like having doctor's profiles, and, you know, there's all these, there's websites and all this stuff on that. And you know, that that's like the beginning of this idea, because, you know, a coach doesn't have to be a doctor, right? So they have more than 200 coaches on there now, and they've, he said that they're spread out across like 19 different niches. And that includes things like you can read up on the coach ahead of time. You can understand their credentials that what I specialize in also there's reviews, and then you know, you can actually I find different coaches for different things even. So, clever, really interesting. I like the idea of it. And I also agree with you I love that kind of rolled out of his own need. And his own, you know, the things that he was able to win. Lesley Logan 15:13  I think like we, you probably heard this a million times, is called like your message is your message. And like, you know, the obstacle is the way. And the reality is like, I love having these people on who share like, whoa, what the hell happened to you? And now look what path it's put you on? And so I love this called HatchPath. Because anyways, the link will be in the show notes for you to actually go check it out if you are a coach who wants to be on it, or you're wanting to find a coach? Brad Crowell 15:39  Yeah. All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items what bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Jordan Dunin? Okay, Jordan said, what the things that we do daily become us. That was like kind of like a rude awakening. It's like, oh, shit, that'sLesley Logan 15:59   You are what you eat and what you do. Brad Crowell 16:01  True. Because the concept of, of a cure is so fickle. The only way we change is when we change. He said it took 20 years to get sick, it took him his body 20 years to get sick. And he's like taking this pill for two weeks isn't going to fix that. It's a process to do the reverse of whatever it was that took you to the place you're in now. That's like, literally with anything, any change you want to make. It took you time to get to that point. And it's going to take you time to shift away from that. So. Lesley Logan 16:35  Be kind to yourself. Brad Crowell 16:36  Yeah and I think you're right. Being kind to yourself is really understanding that it's a journey. It's a path and he talked about coaching as a path. He said that the biggest thing that was helpful for him was when he began to change his identity, right? He was associating himself as someone who was sick. And so because he's sick, I can't do this thing, right, or it became this limiting factor. And he shifted into a different identity, where hey, okay, I am sick. But that doesn't define me. That's not who I am. I happen to be sick, but I am still Jordan. You know, he said he thinks that habit change and identity is something that really leads to success, it comes down to what we do day to day, and if we do something tomorrow different than we did today, so, yeah, for us, I mean, this is literally the be it. This is being it till you see it. You know, this is taking what bold, executable intrinsic or targeted steps can you take, you know, making these small changes on a daily basis will help you move to a different spot, you know, mentally or physically or any of those things.Lesley Logan 17:52  Yeah. Well, the next step is to envision a goal. And then he want you to envision you have everything that you want in that like everything you want is there, envision it, and then this is the most important part. How does it feel? Brad Crowell 18:07  How does it feel? Lesley Logan 18:09  And then he wants you to feel that right now. And then go after it because you can, the feeling sometimes we like Brad Crowell 18:18  I just got chills. Lesley Logan 18:18  I know. So remember, remember way back to episode three. Brad Crowell 18:23  Oh, geez. Lesley Logan 18:23  Our dear, dear friend, episode three, whose name is escaping me, but he's so handsome. And he is so nice. And we've had him on many times on the podcast many timesBrad Crowell 18:34  Alex.Lesley Logan 18:35  No, Alex, Alex was five or seven. This is episode three.Brad Crowell 18:40  Episode Three, Rob Mack.Lesley Logan 18:43  Rob Mack. Rob Mack talked about how like you don't get to see the whole staircase you can see the first step and what I love about feeling into a goal is it really does help you make the next step because you can go off of like okay does like let's just say you want to like be a biohacker. Okay, how does a biohacker feel? And it's like, okay, biohackers, like, take a cold shower and like, okay, feel it, like, okay, they take cold showers like how's that feel? And then you won't take a cold shower and doesn't feel like that. Maybe you need to do a cold plunge or maybe you need to do cold room or maybe you need to just like do the feet only. And that's just like a really made-up thing. But like feeling into that goal. Having it now makes it easier for you to judge should you say yes or no to something because you might not be able to the full staircase yet. But you can feel something you can feel the energy from the other person is going to participate. And if it doesn't feel like the energy you had when you envisioned your goal, it, it makes it that vision doesn't have to be perfect. But your feeling is something that you can go off of your gut instinct more. I love that.Brad Crowell 19:44  I think also, you know, he was talking about the 500 square foot apartment in New York where you lay in marble floors at the end of the day. It's still a 500-square-foot apartment. And he said what if there were no limitations about around that, like, imagine when you're when you're envisioning your goal? Think bigger and then how does that feel? I feel like we don't feel, you know, these goals, we just write it on a wall. And we're like, yeah, I want to, you know, make money like this, or I want this car, or this thing or whatever. And but then we don't actually imagine what it's going to be like, you know, when you are there. And that is like, I think, you know, you talk about habits, you talk about changing habits, associating. Like, the habit has to feel good, or you won't continue to do it, your body will just won't allow you to do it, your brain won't won't want to do it, so you won't make it a habit. So if you can feel that vision, you know, and it's positive for you. What is it going to do? It's gonna make you want to go there to get that to be it.Lesley Logan 20:55  So, feel it to be it. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 20:59  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 21:00  Thank you so much for listening to this podcast and you've been one of our listeners, it just, it really means a lot to me. Thank you for writing reviews and sending your favorite takeaways. I love, I love I love how are you getting them to me? You get them to me in some random places. And it's a fun like Easter egg hunt. And I just adore you all so, so very much. Thanks for being with us for 359 episodes. So how are you going to use these tips in your life? We want to know. Tag Jordan Dunin. Tell him. Tag the Be It Pod so we can share it. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 21:28  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 21:30  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Lesley Logan 21:57  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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In this reflective episode, Lesley and Brad unpack the wisdom behind Tess Waresmith's approach to financial literacy, focusing on the dual objectives of debt management and investing for your future. Drawing from Tess's experiences and their own insights, the hosts explore how to navigate the financial landscape with confidence. By highlighting the importance of understanding your financial standing and the potential of investments, this discussion offers a clear guide to anyone wanting financial security. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why it's never too late to start your investment journey at any age. When you should prioritize debt repayment over investing.Why it's important to learn the basic fundamentals of investing. How journaling about money can transform your financial goals.Episode References/Links:May AcceleratorCambodia Feb 2025 Early BirdOPC Summer CampBest Pilates Reformer for HomeDiscount Links for Balanced Body's Equipment and ContrologyWealth with TessFree Workshop - 3 Keys to Making Money in the Stock Market  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! Check out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox Be in the know with all the workshops at OPCBe It Till You See It Podcast SurveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates MentorshipFREE Ditching Busy Webinar  Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Follow Us on Social Media:InstagramFacebookLinkedIn  Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  If your loans are under 7% just give yourself permission to just let them be and focus on having some fun investing and watching your money grow versus like watching like this student loan payment every month because that's just exhausting. Lesley Logan 0:14  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:56  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the enriching convo I have with Tess Waresmith in our last episode. Brad Crowell 1:04  (Inaudible) enriching. Lesley Logan 1:05  Very much so. I thought it was an appropriate word. So great job team. If you haven't yet listened to that one, you're gonna want to, my dears, you really, really are. But you can listen to this one first and then go back and then listen to that one. Brad was saying before we hit record, or maybe you'll hear it already. We are at episode 353. Brad Crowell 1:24  That's amazing.Lesley Logan 1:25  That's insane. Lesley Logan 1:26  That is a, I mean, I never imagined. Lesley Logan 1:29  I know it's a lot. Wow. So way to go, team, 353. There are no balloons for this episode, but you know we are celebrating in our hearts. Today is April 11th 2024 and that is Dog Therapy Appreciation Day. So about this day, Dog Therapy Appreciation Day is celebrated on April 11th every year to appreciate the dogs who come for us by being therapy dogs. Therapy dogs go through a rigorous testing program before they become certified with their certification to become eligible to visit hospitals and nursing homes to give comfort to people. Therapy Dogs are usually at first pets who receive training and then become therapy dogs. Being around dogs makes everyone happy. And on this day we thank dogs are making us happier. It's true. They say if you want unconditional love get a dog. Because otherwise if you get a cat you just gotta remain. You never know what the cat you know. Some people's cats are loving, some people's cats are a little diva. Just saying. Just saying.Brad Crowell 2:26  My friend's cat knocks his stuff off of his table. It just sits there. Yeah, sits there and just p-p-p-p-poop funk knocks it off the table.Lesley Logan 2:36  Ah that's so funny. Brad Crowell 2:39  Yeah, pretty hilarious. Lesley Logan 2:41  So we've upcoming events so we want to share with you. So first of all, we're flying to your Sarasota today there's going to be a fun little private event to celebrate just mapping out you know, the podcast and her her app you can meet us at Pilates on tour at Phoenix, which is from Balanced Body on April 26th to the 28th so you can come see us in person we're gonna have a booth, we're gonna have flashcards. It's a huge event. It's a big, big party because Pilates anytime (inaudible)Brad Crowell 3:03  No dogs. I wish we could bring the dogs. Lesley Logan 3:05  We're not bringing the dogs. Brad Crowell 3:07  It's going to be so hot so we're not gonna bring them.Lesley Logan 3:09  (Inaudible) It's just that we're doing a booth and we cannot have three dogs at our tiny booth. Yeah. So. So you'll definitely want to check that out. I hope if you're coming already, let us know. And make sure you come up and say hi to us. Let us know what your favorite episode is. We love hearing that. We were just in Texas and people are sharing like quoting the episodes and they're quoting episodes like one and episode five and I was like wow, like yeah, we go back and listen, I was like, you're fucking awesome. Thank you so much. So ladies, hi. So fun to see you in person, you know who you are. In May we'll have the Accelerator for Profitable Pilates. This is the two-hour workshop that Brad leads where you actually get to learn how to accelerate your business, your studio and really, truly get to work on it in the workshop, which is really cool. He's going to teach you his 'accel' formula, which is about acquiring and cultivating and basically making clients for life and it's super, super fun. So you'll want to do that. Brad Crowell 4:03  Not just making class for life, like bringing them in making them class for life, but then setting them up so they invite their friends and family to come to your studio.Lesley Logan 4:12  Yeah, so you can go to PRfit.biz/acceleratorBrad Crowell 4:16  That's PRfit.biz/accelerator. Lesley Logan 4:19  It's also like $47. So it's really it's a no-brainer to say yes. Brad Crowell 4:23  If you're looking to jumpstart your business, come take this. Lesley Logan 4:26  Or you're still stuck. Go take it, right? And also in May. Brad Crowell 4:31  Yeah, this is really exciting news.Lesley Logan 4:33  First time sharing this on the pod. Brad Crowell 4:34  We're back. Lesley Logan 4:35  We're back. Okay, so the Cambodia retreat is sold out. Brad Crowell 4:39  Yeah. October 24 it sold out, y'all. I'm so excited. It's gonna be the most incredible trip. And because of it, we thought, well, we better get the next one ready.Lesley Logan 4:51  Yeah. So because actually people who are still wanting to come I actually was talking to some people were like, oh, February is even better for me. So that's great. So February 2025 early bird is going to open up in May. Again, waitlist.Brad Crowell 5:02  Yeah, it's going to be Feb 23 to 28, 2025. But we're gonna do the the earlybird in May of this year. Lesley Logan 5:09  Yeah, so waitlist. You've got to be on the waitlist. Brad Crowell 5:11  Get on the waitlist.Lesley Logan 5:11  If you're not on the waitlist, you don't find about this early bird. Brad Crowell 5:13  That's right. Get on that waitlist.Lesley Logan 5:14  You've got to be on the waitlist. And it's a limited time early bird by the way, so. Brad Crowell 5:17  Yeah, it's only going to be two weeks, y'all.Lesley Logan 5:19  So you want to go to lesleylogan.co/retreats. My name is spelled L-E-S-L-E-Y.Brad Crowell 5:24  And that's retreats, plural, plural. Yeah, lesleylogan.co/retreats.Lesley Logan 5:30  And then coming up in June, right around the corner is going to be our summer camp. And it's huge. You guys, we are looking at eight events each day, 16 events for summer camp. Oh my god, this is a huge dream. I'm so, so excited.Brad Crowell 5:45  If you can't be on 10 hours of Pilates classes. That's okay. Because the cool thing about summer camp is you'll be able to keep the, the replays. Lesley Logan 5:55  Yeah, you get the replays for life, which is amazing. And so if you can't be there for the first weekend of June live, you can just buy them while they're on early bird. And by the way, Early Bird really gets the worm on this one because our OPC members get the best early bird. And then if you're on the waitlist, you get the next best early bird. And if you're not on the waitlist, you get the next best early bird which is not as good as any other early bird. So you want to go to opc.me/events, plural, events plural. So opc.me/events to get on the waitlist, if you're an OPC member, you don't need to get on the waitlist, just make sure you're watching your inbox and the community for when you're when your window opens up to sign up.Brad Crowell 6:35  Just a super sneak peek on that not only we're gonna have a bunch of amazing teachers coming in and guest teachers. But also, this is like a big event for us, y'all. This is a big deal. I anticipate there being a ton of people participating. We took a look at last year how we ran everything and we decided this year, we're going to shift it up, we're actually going to offer day passes. And that is going to be the best possible rate. And you don't want to miss the day passes. It's going to be awesome. So great, great stuff. We're really fired up. And can't wait. So yeah. opc.me/events. So this week, we did have an audience question from YouTube. Sophia asked, 'What kind of reformer length should I have for someone who is six foot tall? Lesley Logan 7:18  Yeah. Yeah. So also, there's another Pilates question I didn't want to bring in the brand name, But she was like, I'm looking at this brand name, and it seems really pricey. And I looked it up and it was only $2,000. And I had to say that's actually really expensive for a good reformer. However, I still wouldn't get it. So I let Sophia know that. But what I will say for all of you, if you are six feet tall, you can still operate on an 80-inch reformer, it's when you get above 6'3, that you're going to want to be more than 86-inch reformer. And why these things matter is just because it's, it'sBrad Crowell 7:52  It's physics. It's literally like geometry. It's physics.Lesley Logan 7:55  Well, it's also like, when you press your legs too straight, you hit the end of the reformer. And if you're too tall, your legs don't get too straight. And it's and I will say just for the record, actually never care if the knees get straightened footwork, I only care that the hips open up the front of the hips open up so you could still be on too short reformer, that wouldn't be fun. So I would say you can, Sophia, you probably still could do the Contrology 80-inch but you might enjoy it in 86-inch for anyone under six feet tall, the 80-inch is going to be so awesome. Like, I'm five nine and gets towards spine a little tricky. I have to start at a harder spot. But oh my God, I love the support of the straps. Because again, physics where the strap hits the reformer and into the springs is a shorter distance than on an 86-inch so that's why I love it.Brad Crowell 8:40  And also I know you still work with pro football players on an 80-inch.Lesley Logan 8:45  I did, I did. They were 6'3" or shorter. So they were totally fine. Brad Crowell 8:49  If you're working with basketball, people who are 6'10" and seven-foot. Lesley Logan 8:52  I think they're like seven foot now. But also like if you are working with a team of basketball players, then by all means, like go get there's bigger formers for that. But if you are working with one NBA player, and you have an 86-inch, you're gonna be fine. You'll just you can do other exercises that they can't do on the reformer somewhere else.Brad Crowell 9:10  You said 86-inch, you meant 80? Lesley Logan 9:12  No, they could do an 86-inch. Brad Crowell 9:14  But if they have only one basketball player? Lesley Logan 9:17  Yeah, I think well, the 80-inch is going to be a little tricky. Brad Crowell 9:20  Yeah, are you saying there's bigger than 86? Lesley Logan 9:22  Yeah, there's an 89. Brad Crowell 9:23  Oh, I didn't know that. Lesley Logan 9:24  There are some people that like 90-somethings don't do that you guys, there's no need. Again.Brad Crowell 9:28  Also the leverage, like the amount of you know muscle that's needed to be able to pull that strap. Yeah, is like gonna be really, really challenging, especially as your clients get older. Lesley Logan 9:38  I know shout out to Joanna, an eLevator, she's like I would have paid attention to our physics class if it was taught to me as like it's Pilates. Yeah. And it's true like, like every workshop I'm doing okay, so guys physics, right? So like, this if you do x and you try to do y the window chair is gonna fall over, but I truly like for mostly listening to this, I'm just gonna say 80-inches that's really, really awesome. It's just so, so great. And if you have to get an 86, that's fine as well. But you can check out on YouTube I have a whole video on the reformer for like which one to get for home. It's not one that slides underneath the bed. It's an 80-inch performer spoiler alert. But I go over all the different things you want to look at when it comes to choosing a reformer and why you want to make sure that you're not getting one with bungee cords or, or like one that goes underneath the bed because all these different changes affect how you can do the practice and what you can do. A reformer that's too low to the floor you can't do pulling straps, it's a basic, amazing exercise everybody needs to do. So you can watch that video. Brad Crowell 10:37  It's called Best Pilates Reformer for Home: How to Choose the Best Reformer for you. That's the video name. And that's just right on our YouTube channel.Lesley Logan 10:44  Yeah, yeah. So you can watch that, check it out. And then if you have questions about it let me know also, if you want a discount, we got it.Brad Crowell 10:49  Or you want me to clarify the YouTube channel, because we have one for the pod, it's on the Online Pilates Classes YouTube channel. Lesley Logan 10:55  Yeah. Do you know what that that URL is? I'll tell you guys, I got it memorized. It's really weird. youtube.com/@onlinepilatesclasses, because they go we're gonna give you a handle, it's like a social media thing. But you can't actually use the handle. You have to do youtube.com/@onlinepilatesclasses. Brad Crowell 11:12  It's because you can at mention people now in comments. They're really trying to get the community element going. Lesley Logan 11:16  Yeah, no one's recovering a million people's edits. Fine. Whatever. Anyway, Sophia, thank you for that question. And also you guys, we have discount links when it comes to purchasing Balanced Body's equipment, whether it's a Balanced Body line or the Contrology line. Brad Crowell 11:29  Yeah and sidenote, did you know, we have a YouTube channel for the pod? Lesley Logan 11:34  We do.Brad Crowell 11:35  If you like to watch these to watch this show, you can. We are actually on video. We're staring at each other in a video camera.Lesley Logan 11:43  Yeah, and all of our guests are on video. Brad Crowell 11:45  It's pretty cool. Lesley Logan 11:46  So cool. I hope you check it out.Brad Crowell 11:48  Yes, just go to the Be It Pod on YouTube. All right, now let's talk about Tess Waresmith. Tess is a financial advisor who turned an 80k loss into a million-dollar net worth by the age of 35, which is incredible. Her mission is to educate women on investing via Wealth with Tess, ensuring financial empowerment, literacy and independence. And I just want to throw in here, great remake on the bio, but she didn't go to college to study finance. In fact, she's an acrobat. And she literally was working on a cruise ship. And you know, that's how she, because she had no expenses literally, they pay for housing and food, so for the time she was on the ship, every penny she made, she was able to put in a bank account. And when she got back, she started investing and didn't really pay attention to it, and it went wrong. And she lost a lot of money. And that really made her angry. And so she started to educate herself. And today she educates others, which is super cool. Lesley Logan 12:48  She's so cool. We had her in the agency family, she did a webinar and we actually were able to put her webinar in our agency on-demand curriculum means anyone who comes into on demand or as a pro member for agency, gets to watch her incredible, incredible webinar, which I'm just so friggin grateful. Because then you could if you want to you can work with her. So here's the deal. I loved we talked about demystifying myths around investing because there's a lot of myths around investing. And one of the things we talked about was like that myth, it's too late to invest or catch up. I know for me, I'm always like, fuck, I should have started when I was 20. And I didn't start till I was 31. And like, you know, I look at it sometimes we just looked at with like these wealth advisors we're talking to and I'm like, how's it only that much? You know, how was it only that much?Brad Crowell 13:34  Yeah. It's also been in there for a long time and you were kind of cross-eyed, and like, really? Lesley Logan 13:39  And I also actually, because of Tess, I like I really was like, look at this and tell me what's going on. And they said, oh, it's that they're not being aggressive with it like you want it. And I was like, I literally, Brad and I literally had a call with them a year ago and said, make it, be aggressive. And they still didn't. So thank goodness for Tess and opened my eyes because now we know and we can move it. But anyways, she said age does not matter investing, it's never too late. Even if you've done some mistakes that are irreversible. She's like, if you're starting to take action, you still have time to make a massive difference. And she said, the longer you wait, the harder it is going to be to reach your financial goals. So like, basically going it's too late to invest is not, you got it, you can just start now and like it doesn't have to be too late.Brad Crowell 14:23  I feel like we need to even take a step back like this idea of financial goals is this like it's an amorphous not like thing. It doesn't make any sense. It like do people actually, obviously, more is better. Mo better, right? That's the way I've always thought of financial goals. But the more we've been educating ourselves about this, the more I'm realizing there is an actual number out there that you will want to you know, kind of go for over your career of making money. That's your entire life so that when you retire, you have enough money to live the lifestyle you want to live and it's like talking with Tess was really interesting because it allowed not only the podcast interview. Lesley Logan 15:04  She needs a podcast called Talking with Tess. Brad Crowell 15:06  Talking with Tess. Lesley Logan 15:07  I know she's Wealth With Tess, but like Talking with Tess Brad Crowell 15:09  It's pretty good. It's a good alliteration. But the like understanding the foundational elements of like a financial plan, and what does that even mean? What is this amorphous, like goal that you may or may not have yet? Like, and how do you start to go forward toward it? These are all the things that she begins to teach. And, you know, she's teaching I mean, and she, what was cool is, you know, there's a couple of different ways to do it. There's like the, you know, hire someone let them do it, right, for you and you're paying them the 1% thing, there are things you just like, buy it, never look at it ever again. And there's people who try to like actually play the stock market, right? Those are kind of the three different ways that you know, and she, she kind of, she has different programs that educate you through those things. And I thought it was really great, because maybe, depending on who you are, where you are, what your financial position is, and your goals are, you know, it depends on which avenue you may want to go. And then there are different things inside of that. I was poking around her website, if y'all can't tell. It's good. So yeah, I really loved that she said, a lot of people feel like they have to pay off all of their debt, even their mortgage or their student loans before they start investing. So this is myth number two. Myth number one was what Lesley said, it's, oh, it's too late for me, I didn't start when I was 20. So why even bother? No, wrong. Second one is you don't have to pay off all your debt before you begin investing. There is like a, like a generalization that if you're, if you have a loan, and it's less than 7%, you know, the on average, the money that you may invest in things is going to be like, not not in like, like, obviously, when I'm talking to savings account here, but it's going to be greater than 7% on average, over I think this is like over a 10-year period or something like that. Anyway, the point is this, if you have a credit card, it has 27% interest rate, and then you take all your money and you put it in the stock market, you're not going to be doing yourself any favors, you should be paying off the 27% interest rate right now, get that down. But if you have a mortgage or a school loan, and it's like 4%, right, then Lesley Logan 17:21  Let it be, just pay what you're supposed to pay. Brad Crowell 17:23  Yeah, pay what you're supposed to pay, feel free to add a little bit on top, that's fine. But like, you don't need to be dumping money onto that 4% loan, you'd be better off serving yourself by taking that money and investing it in a way that will bring you seven or 8% greater, you know, or whatever. And so, so the point is, if you have high-interest debt, then you do need, you want to get rid of that right away. That's the first primary and that could, right away could take a year or two. Lesley Logan 17:49  It could take up and also by the way, because I used to have a lot of credit cards and student loan debt and lived in California in LA with lots of things. I literally just took, I did the minimums on everything and paid off the highest interest rate bill I had, then I took that money and went to the next highest interest rate bill. And then I, it's like all the other ones I was just paying like like barely a little over minimum, because it's like, they're all more, they're all lower than this. And I have to get this one down. And I was able to take that money unto this one and that one, and I got out of my credit card debt faster than I actually thought because I was being very intentional about it it's kind of interesting how like, when you focus on it like, what you're able to do, and I paid my student loans off months earlier than I thought not even because I paid extra, I just actually had it set up, where I always paid the same amount no matter what the interest was, because I had this like interest rate, and it went down while I had them. But I kept paying the same amount. And so I had a higher payment going to the principal. So it goes it does go away. We just have to also not look at it like oh my god, I'm financially illiterate. I'm a stupid person for these things. No, like, you know what, guys? I wouldn't I want to live in a world where it doesn't cost $80,000 to go to a regular college, I would love to see that I would love to see a world where you don't have to go to college to be a fucking secretary. Like you don't need to. But we don't live in that world right now. So you just have to go I made these amazing choices. I probably met some incredible people. And I'm gonna make this payment, put it on auto pay and do some things. But also if the interest is under seven, which most student loans is and if the IRS is not, let's figure that out. But Brad Crowell 19:26  Yeah, just to clarify that statement. I want to put the descriptor word in that sentence a lot differently. You don't have to go to fucking college to be a secretary. Lesley Logan 19:36  No, you don't. You don't. Brad Crowell 19:39  The point is like you can make a living being a secretary you can make a living. You don't need to go to college to make a living. You can but you don't necessarily need to. Lesley Logan 19:49  Yeah, I say that because like, I definitely I now use my degree but like I use college as a way to get out of like my hometown and I'm grateful because I wouldn't be on this journey. And I wouldn't know the people I have if I hadn't done it. But also, also, I couldn't have done what I did in retail, which taught me what I needed to do to do business with Pilates. Anyways, so would I've been in business coach, maybe not, but that doesn't, that doesn't really matter. So I think it's just really important. Just to go back to, if you're, if your loans are under 7%. Just give yourself permission to just let them be. And focus on having some fun investing and watching your money grow versus like watching like this student loan payment every month, because that's just exhausting. Brad Crowell 20:34  So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say it with me, y'all. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Tess Waresmith?Lesley Logan 20:45  I wonder if anyone does it? Anyone says it with you.Brad Crowell 20:47  If any of you say that with me every single week, I want to know, I want to know you needed the (inaudible)Lesley Logan 20:53  I know Mindy says the intro like she would if for SEO. She's got it memorized. (inaudible)Brad Crowell 21:02  That is amazing. Okay, cool. So as I was already alluding to, at the beginning of this pod, Tess actually educates people on the subjects and she's got some really approachable courses. It's like a one-month course where she works in small groups with people who are probably, you know, all in the same boat, she said, it's often very revealing, you know, learning the foundational understanding of investing of money about how it all works. And she said, it's very, very possible for you to learn this yourself. It's, it sounds intimidating, but that's only because we don't know what we don't know. Right? But when you begin to see when she you know, you lift the lid on it. She said it's not rocket science here. A lot of the investing that you know, that is happening, we probably could be managing it ourselves, instead of having an organization manage it for us, because they're taking fees that literally we don't need to do, we don't need them to take. Because if you're just setting it and forgetting it, there's really an opportunity for you to manage it yourself. So she said find out where you stand in the ecosystem of learning investment, like, are you trying to be complicated, then maybe you need a team to work with you. But if it's just a set it and forget it, you can make a smart decision. So as long as you know the options, and then you can choose how much money can you invest and watch how it grows. You can learn together, you know, with your partner with your family to be able to make intelligent financial decisions. Well, she said something I really light her fire is investing and teaching kids, right? So she said there's a there's a plan called a 529 plan, which that doesn't mean anything to me other than it's a number, where you can, as a parent, begin to put money into an account for your kids college fund. And if they choose not to go to college, down the road, it can roll into some other kind of a retirement plan.Lesley Logan 22:58  I know is that, that to me was so cool, that if they don't go to college, it can go into a retirement plan. So it doesn't have to be forced. I love it. I love their option.Brad Crowell 23:07  That's pretty rad. It's pretty, pretty rad. But how would you ever even know about this stuff? Right? So you gotta you gotta learn. So what about you?Lesley Logan 23:16  She said, so my biggest takeaway that I want to talk about is journaling on your relationship with money. And I, we and I, we both have done some stuff on this show. So we, of course, I love this because we've been, it was really revealing for us when we did it. So she said ask for, this is for my people who are like, what do I journal? Write this down. Okay she said ask yourself questions like, how do I feel when I make a money transaction? So, when you receive money or when you spend money how does it make you feel? Do I feel like there's an opportunity for me to make more money or not? Do I think I'm capable of learning how to invest? And she said if the answer is no, you need to DM her because she'll talk to you. She'll talk to you, and she's going to absolutely help you because she believes you are more than capable to do it.Brad Crowell 24:01  Yep. She said there was another thing before we wrap it up. She mentioned she often hears that people say they are or they are not, quote-unquote good with money. Oh, I'm not good with money anyway, so whatever, you know, like I just am doing my thing. And she said that this is like the honestly, from a, be it perspective, Be It Pod perspective, this is like the definition of negative self-talk, even though we don't even realize it, we are counting ourselves out from ever even learning the possibility or understanding that we could be good with money. Right? And we just assume that we don't have the quote-unquote golden touch, you know, that like maybe a (inaudible) investment banker has or whatever stock market person has, like they're good with money. You know, I'm not good with money. No, that's a story we're telling ourselves. Right? And that doesn't have to be the case. And it's also not that complex to learn how you can be good with money. And that's why we love to have this conversation with Tess.Lesley Logan 25:04  Yeah, she's great. I like want to spend more time with her. So thank you, Tess for helping us become really amazing and hyped up about money and investing. I really, I cannot wait for everyone to tell me how they're gonna use these tips in your life. And by the way, share this with a friend who like says they're not good with money or says that they wish that they understood the money matters in their household more like this is a really, Tess can really help so many women in your life. So. Brad Crowell 25:31  Yeah, we'll put her link in the show notes. Lesley Logan 25:32  Yeah, so do that right now. And until next time, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 25:36  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 25:37  Thank you so very, very much for being here. 353 episodes if you haven't listened to that, man, you should go listen, I'm just saying, some people listen twice, just no pressure. Let us know what your favorite one is so far, and Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 25:51  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 25:53  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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Explore the groundbreaking work of Rebeka Borucki in making the publishing industry more inclusive and equitable. Through her founding of Row House Publishing, Rebeka provides a platform for marginalized voices, promoting diversity in children's literature. Brad and Lesley covers her dedication to social justice, the impact of her initiatives on communities, and her advocacy for a more inclusive literary world.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Impact to community when sharing and redistributing wealth.Rebeka's approach to empowering marginalized voices.The value of sharing and developing ideas openly.Rebeka's emphasis on the strength in collective actions.Episode References/Links:Rebeka BoruckiRow House PublishingStudio Growth AcceleratorOPC Summer CampOPC WorkshopsCambodia Early BirdLittle Readers Big Change  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. DEALS! 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And until and this goes for every country, not just I mean, obviously we live here, but like how we take care of those who have less than us is how we take care of each other truly. Lesley Logan 0:19  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 1:01  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the inclusionary combo I have with Rebekah Borucki in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened that episode, go back and listen to it because holy frickin moly.Brad Crowell 1:14  She is a powerhouse. Lesley Logan 1:15  She is a powerhouse. She's a badass, she's like, like just all things amazing. Just all things amazing. So you should just pause this, go listen to that and come back. Or you can listen to this first because you're here and maybe you're you know, got your hands wet. And then make sure your podcast plays right into the one from Tuesday. Before we get into Rebekah's amazing words, today is March 21st 2024 and it is both world Poetry Day and Companies That Care Day. So I couldn't pick because I like them both because one, poetry, Rebekah is a founder of a publishing house. So like and she's a writer, so that kind of made sense. And then companies that care. She is a company that cares. So I kind of liked they both landed on this day. World Poetry Day was actually invented by UNESCO in 1999. So it's all here to like protect poetry. And I'm not a good poetry writer. But shout out to Alison Whipple, who is one of our agency members who is like, very humble, but also a very, very published poet, and does some amazing work. And then companies that care, you know, what you tell us about your company that, you know, that cares. But basically what that is, is like, companies are supposed to start to recognize that it's their employees that are if their employees are happy, they're a better company, so they should give some it fucks about the people that they hire, period. End of story. Okay, so upcoming events and travel and such. I'm actually getting on a plane tomorrow to go to Dallas. Yeah. But when I get back, Brad has an amazing two-hour workshop for Pilates instructors and business owners. Brad Crowell 2:45  Yes, I do. It's called the Studio Growth Accelerator, and y'all should join me. So basically, we are going to be digging into our new Accel formula, A-C-C-E-L. It's going to be a deep dive into how we can create jumpstart, kickstart, actually generate the growth that your studio needs to have. So if you are feeling like you have been stuck, you're looking for clients, you make the same money you got last year, you just can't get the get the ball moving forward. This accelerator is for you. And you can join me by going to PRfit.biz/accelerator that's PRfit.biz/accelerator. It's gonna be a two-hour workshop. So, you know, our two-hour hangout we'll probably talk for about 90 minutes and then we'll do Q&A or something. So yeah, come join me.Lesley Logan 3:39  And then we have we're getting up we've been playing all day today that we're recording this summer camp. Oh my gosh, so last year at OPC, OnlinePilatesClasses.com we had our first ever summer camp there's six teachers was super super fun. This particular year I want to do it bigger and better and better and more think just like true summer camp vibes without the bunk beds without the without the bugs without the travel and there is access Brad Crowell 4:04  Without the terrible roommate.Lesley Logan 4:05  Yeah, you won't have a terrible roommate, you won't have like crappy food. Brad Crowell 4:08  Your parents won't be dropping you off.Lesley Logan 4:10  Like fake cheese you know like, no, no, no, it's gonna you'll be able to attend from the comfort of your own home with your camera off if you want to. And you'll have lifetime access to the replays which is super, super amazing. So you want to go to opc.me/workshops, opc.me/workshops, you want to be on the waitlist if you want to get the best. I'm actually you want to be an OPC member if you want to get the best OPC price (inaudible) they are and then people on the waitlist get the next hookup and then those who are neither of those get the next hookup which is not as good as the first hookup or the second one. So just so you know. And then finally as we're recording this we actually only have like how many spots left in Cambodia?Brad Crowell 4:50  Two, two spots left. Lesley Logan 4:52  And actually before this episode comes out, (inaudible) someone's already, somebody's already doing an email, a mass email to their people. So it's quite possible by the time you listen to this, it is actually sold out. Brad Crowell 5:06  However. Lesley Logan 5:07  However, we've already planned 2025. Brad Crowell 5:10  That's right. Lesley Logan 5:10  Yeah. So you actually can purchase your spot now for the February 2025 retreat.Brad Crowell 5:17  And I would recommend you do it because this one sold out real fast. Lesley Logan 5:21  It didn't even take two months. It's insane. And so we're super, super excited about this. It's our very special retreat. It's really magical. And we actually got to hang out with a couple of our Cambodia retreaters in real life here in Las Vegas. And they were talking about all the amazing stuff that they took away from it and like implemented right away. So I just love that. So anyways, crowsnestretreats.com. Crows (that's a plural) nestretreats.com. All right, before we get into Rebekah's amazingness. What is our audience question, Brad? Brad Crowell 5:54  Yeah, we had a great one from Angela today on Instagram. She's asking, Have you any experience with upholstery cracking on your reformers, the studio I work for has Merrithew reformers and it seems to be a recurring issue. I'm wondering if the cleaners they're using are too harsh. And the boss says it's just human skin oils. But I've not had this problem with mine at home, nor have I heard about it from other teachers who use other brands like Legacy or Balanced Body. Lesley Logan 6:22  Okay, Angela. So here's the deal. If it was body oil, it would not be cracking it, it would actually be like white moisturizing it or like oiling it like it's actually like oil is actually really great Brad Crowell 6:36  The oil isn't gonna dry it out. Lesley Logan 6:38  Now, I will say this, you didn't ask for this. But there are some manufacturers and I won't name names because I'm not interested in being yelled at. But where whatever they used to coat the wood of their, also, it was not, it doesn't happen on my Contrology but there are some wood push-through bars, and also wood reformers that whatever they use to like, shine up the wood, when you use cleaner on it the human sweat makes it sticky. So that is awful and gross. And like, I will never buy that brand of equipment because you can't unfix that. But as far as upholstery cracking it is 100% the material you're using, and or not material, like cleaning supplies. Yeah. Brad Crowell 7:24  Like if they're using Pine Sol on it. Lesley Logan 7:26  Well, yeah, you should not be using that. Also if you're using like a like, you want to make sure that any of those wipes you're using because now that we're in a post-COVID world, everybody wants to use these wipes. The thing about those is one, it's a lot more trash, two, it might not be allowed on your equipment. Just because it's allowed on gym equipment doesn't mean it's allowed on Pilates equipment. And so I like Balanced Body's cleaner, it's really easy, you get a big bottle, you take a cap full, you get some water and it's super, super easy to clean. A lot of people will use tea tree oil and I know I said oil and oil makes it oily but the truth is that there's something in the tea tree oil that actually will dry out equipment overtime and make a crack or upholstery overtime they can crack. So I don't have a ton of people coming to my equipment. So I do use a method spray on a towel because again, it's not it's happening like once a day if that on my equipment. In my old studio, I would use like a method soap if I ran out of the Balance Body and I put a few drops in water and that got really clean. But also, you will always need to use a little soft bristle toothbrush with a microfiber towel to get the skin out of your equipment because oh my gosh, there's little groups and like it's gross, it's so gross. And just because equipment is a darker color doesn't mean it's not happening it just means you're not seeing it. But 100% whatever you're using is too harsh for that upholstery and you may want to go to the manufacturers of that upholstery and find out what they recommend you clean it with because it's quite possible they're using different material than what you mentioned the other brands.Brad Crowell 9:01  It's also possible that maybe it's in direct sunlight.Lesley Logan 9:04  Oh that is also so what happens with direct sunlight is and that's why we put blankets on our equipment in the house because the sun here it actually so I don't it's like there's a sheenBrad Crowell 9:16  Because it's wrapped around a little bit around the edges and it can become brittle if the sun is baking baking and baking it and then the and then it will crack along the edges. Lesley Logan 9:26  And also it makes it really hard to spin around on so like I used to (inaudible) a ladder barrel that was in the wind in a window and you could never slide on the ladder barrel because it was like had just like dried it out. So yeah, you guys, this stuff is amazing. This equipment's amazing, will last you years if you take care of it, but if you're using the wrong cleaner, you'll have to re-upholster it. And that thing about upholstery is eventually, if you re-upholster, I bought extra shoulder blocks because you know, you hit it the wrong way it could definitely hit a tear so Brad Crowell 9:55  We dropped our reformer box and it split the corner unfortunately, you know, stuff happens. Lesley Logan 10:00  So yeah, if you have a question you would like us to answer, it can be anything doesn't have to be Pilates. Brad Crowell 10:07  It could be anything. Lesley Logan 10:08  It could be anything. We're happy to answer it and see that you send it to the Be It Pod.Brad Crowell 10:13  All right now let's talk about Rebekah Borucki. Rebekah is the author of children's books founder and president of Row House Publishing and has been transforming the literary world by fostering equitable practices for marginalized authors. With a background shaped by adversity and activism, she passionately redefines publishing norms, she ensures access to diverse books for children in underserved communities, embodying the change she seeks in the industry. Lesley Logan 10:39  Yeah, she's cool. Brad Crowell 10:41  This was a really inspiring interview. And I just really felt empowered by the decisions she made. The frustrations that she felt frustrated me too. And then hearing what she decided to do about it. was really cool to hear. I also was laughing because she was like, Yeah, I definitely, definitely didn't know what I was getting myself into when I was like, well, I'm gonna make my own publishing company.Lesley Logan 11:10  I know, I think it's probably better that she did it. Because you know what it's like, as you if you know too much, you it's like becomes overwhelming. So if you don't know (inaudible). But you guys, if you did not listen, you have to listen to this because Brad and I talked about values a lot, like what are our values and like, how we filter decisions through our values, and like, not everything's gonna go the way you want to. But like, she was sitting in a room realizing like this is, they're not doing right by, by people.Brad Crowell 11:38  She was signed to a publishing group, she had an agent, all the things going well, and they were dickheads.Lesley Logan 11:44  Yeah. And she did like, and this is like something like so because I mean, so many writers would be like, Oh, my God, I got a publisher, I got an agent, I got all the things. I made it, and she got published and she stuck with her values and she marched off and she created Row House publishing and I also it's another thing just to like another little highlight, you also picked up which is like niching, to a specific type of genre, which is you can write about any kind of genre, as long as it's in the lens of social justice.Brad Crowell 12:16  Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. Because a lot of publishers will pick, like, we do fantasy, or we do science books or whatever, you know, but her her niche is, can cross multiple genres. Yeah. Because it's about a topic or standing for something. And I also thought she niched down even more, she said, you had to further a conversation in a way that hasn't been, you know, furthered yet. So it's not like she's intentionally trying to move the conversation forward with the books that the company's publishing, which I thought was pretty, pretty cool.Lesley Logan 12:53  I mean, so cool. Like, just I mean, I feel like I don't know, maybe she sat down one day, and was like, wouldn't it be cool if and then that's what she created, because it's freaking cool. And I actually reached out to Kelly (inaudible), who is a romance novel that we've had on and I was like, I don't know if you want to write a romance novel, in this lens. But I think you'll really love Rebecca. And I think you'd love Rojas publishing, so just saying. Anyways one of the things we talked about that I really liked it, she's, this is her words, so I'm gonna make sure you know that she's like, she's like, it is up to us to stand up and say something. And then also said, it's up to us to share and redistribute wealth. We had nothing and we were constantly giving, so I can't resonate with her life in that way, but I remember like, my family didn't have any money. And we were constantly taking people in and feeding people. And I'm like, we have no money, what are we doing, but my parents never let that stop, making sure people got taken care of. And it's really interesting. I think a lot of people don't realize how important that is. And they don't do it. And she, her family had nothing. And they were constantly giving. And she took that redistribution of wealth as part of like, how into her values and how she does what she does. And that's why her publishing company actually pays authors a wage that they can live off of, because like, I mean, that's the biggest thing we hear with all of our friends were authors and like, you sell a book, which you like, make nothing. Yeah, like you make speaking, you make money off of speaking later.Brad Crowell 14:20  Yeah, I mean, that's the big joke in the publishing industry, unless you're like, you have, you're on the news every day, you don't have enough reach to, to generate the demand, so that you can go to a publishing company and say pay me upfront, you know, X amount of dollars. So, you know, for this book, most publishing companies will be like, I'll give you, I'll pay you a little bit and it's not much, right? So, everybody that we talked to, in our circles says yeah, I use my book as my loss leader. I use my book as my lead magnet, you know, all this kind of stuff because they're, it's it seems dim You're gonna get something that's like, oh, legit. Lesley Logan 15:02  And you know, here's the thing, that whenever I hear that it kind of pisses me off a little bit. And publishing. Yeah, it just kind of pissed me off, because I'm like, it's kind of like when I started teaching Pilates and I was like, oh, no, you just charge less than that person, and they charge less than this person. And we all are just happy family of no one making any money and always, like, not having enough. And I kind of, I kind of love that she's bucking the system, stay true to our values. And then using the money, her company's making to redistribute wealth, to put it in hands of people who are furthering conversations, who are bringing things to light, who are getting things into becuase you know, here's the thing about books you guys. Like, there are things that happen in books have changed your perspective of how you think about something, how you see something, I'm listening to a book on Audible right now that I just, my mind is blown in every single chapter. I really just think it's cool how she's gotten to where she is, and she's just hitting the ground running and not stopping until she gets this message out there and changes the publishing world. Brad Crowell 16:05  I really loved when she was talking about the old guard versus the reality of life today. You know, for me, I struggle, I struggle with this a lot. As you know, Lesley and I follow a lot of politics. So I'm actually I stay aware of what's going on in the US Congress, in the Senate, in the house, in and then also internationally because we traveled so much to Cambodia. And it's really frustrating when someone who, you know, has like generational wealth, who's a billionaire, and has an opinion can just write a big fat check and then it like, throws a wrench into supporting people and that makes me angry. And (inaudible).Lesley Logan 16:56  It's so fucking frustrating. Since you brought it up. Here's what's frustrating. Because your country cannot be wealthy, if you do not take care of your poor. And the more poverished people are, the less wealthy a country is. And until and this goes for every country, not just I mean, obviously, we live here, but like, how we take care of those who have less than us is how we take care of each other truly. And it's really frustrating that like some of the things that change what happened, even the people we voted for, it's like, okay, so we're just gonna take this little morsel, because that's what we got from the old guard. You know what I mean? Like it changes so freaking slow pisses me off. Brad Crowell 16:56  Yeah. And that's where like taking a stand in her choice to work with a company that was literally the old guard. And, she said, five of their authors were the biggest disinformation books when it came to COVID. vaccines. Yeah. And she said, I had a problem with that. And you know, but the people in the room were like, yeah, but it makes us money. So we don't actually give a shit.Lesley Logan 18:02  And here's the thing, that's crazy. This is why I truly believe her publishing company is going to be doing amazing things because the way that the old publishing houses were doing it, and the way the old media outlets are doing it, they're all dying. They're not making money, because they were always trying to please the people at the top with the money. And they were not actually paying attention to the people who watch the programs, who read the programs. Brad Crowell 18:28  Yeah. And so you know, and, you know, what was crazy to me to hear at the end, like, so obviously, she started Row House Publishing with a mission and they're definitely, they're not I, she said, they're an activist, company, but they also, they've grown right? So they have had small donations to get the ball rolling, but they clearly had large donors, because one of the things that they decided to take a stand for the large donor decided to pull a half a million dollar contribution from from what they were trying to do. And that's fucking terrifying. But it's also insane. It's also crazy that, you know, someone has that kind of leverage that kind of power, and how dramatic that can affect a small company, and kudos for her for, you know, buckling down going back to what they do, which is reach out to their community and rally around each other and support each other. That is really inspiring. But, she said, ownership really needs to be in the hands of marginalized people, just because they know how to get things done, because they don't have the luxury of being like, well just reach into my empty $8 billion pocketbook thing. Lesley Logan 19:49  They've always had to like figure it out. And so they figure it like they can figure it out. And it's, they can figure it out in ways that can take big dollars and make them go further than people with the big dollars could ever have done.Brad Crowell 20:01  And honestly, not only that, I really think that when you go through, like the fire and come out the other side, and then can make money, raise money, have that influence, you will do different things with it. Yeah, you just appreciate it differently.Lesley Logan 20:19  Yeah. Well, also, I mean, like, you know how important even a little bit can impact someone's life. Like, Rebekah has the charity that brings books to children, right? And like, the power of reading at a young age and having access to books, it like though, these are big deal things. They're not small. And the things that get cut for places where there is not enough money, are the things that actually can change the world.Brad Crowell 20:50  I'll tell you like it blows my mind because, you know, many years ago, you'll hear me talking about Cambodia ad nauseam. But many years ago, a friend of mine moved to Cambodia. And he made it seem impossible for me to get there. And years after being there, he said, yeah, you know, every family that works for me, I require them to send their kids to school, and they have to check in. And the school tells me if the kids don't show up for school, he said, I, he said this is a country of extreme wealth and extreme poverty. And he said I believe wholeheartedly that education is going to be the factor that changes that. And unfortunately, it's just slow going, but that's what needs to happen. And as an American, I was like, well, we got that fucking box checked. What good kudos for us over the last, you know, eight years, really paying attention to politics and starting to learn more about the education in our country. I'm shocked at the the lack of consistency across the art, you know, we have 50 different states, and we have 8000 different, literally, 8000 different municipalities that have different laws and it's crazy, crazy to me. Lesley Logan 22:15  Yeah, it's really it is. And it's really sad, because the way that education is paid for is based off of property taxes which means if you live in a poor area, there are no property taxes, people are renters, which means the schools get the least amount of support are the ones that if you gave them the most, they would change the world. It'd be generational change. My mother is a teacher. I have a special place in my heart for teachers. You all do so much, you get paid so little. And now they don't teach cursive anymore?Brad Crowell 22:50  Yeah, no.Lesley Logan 22:51  I don't even understand like, why not? Why just anyways, we can go on and on. I fucking love her. And I do agree with her that when you give people who have been marginalized, when you give them ownership, they will make absolute amazing change. Brad Crowell 23:07  She said when that shifts for everyone, when there are more female leaders, black, brown, disabled queer leaders, she said when that shifts, everything is going to shift for everybody. Lesley Logan 23:17  For everybody. It will really, truly well. So I can't wait to see that happen. You know, maybe I'll pray.Brad Crowell 23:25  Okay, finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items, what bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conversation with Rebekah Borucki? She said as soon as you have a dream or an idea, start talking about it. Talk about it, do not wait until you have the perfect presentation. Start ideating, dreaming, discussing, it will help you figure that out. It'll help it come to shape, come to life. When you have other people to help bounce ideas off of she said, enlisting, it will help effectively to enlist an accountability partner and she said, Rebekah did the same thing when she wrote her children's book, she said I'm gonna write a children's book by X date and then she called a friend and said here's what I want to do, hold me accountable. Right? And by talking about it, she was able to make it happen. I think the hard thing about this is the fear of failure. Right? You know, the fear that like this grandiose dream that you may have that honestly, maybe it's not even that grandiose, but this dream that you have, if it doesn't come together, you're gonna let yourself down, you're gonna let others down, you know, all those kinds of things. And I definitely, I definitely understand that. You know, I really wanted to go to music school and I was auditioning to get a scholarship and I was really afraid that I wasn't going to get into school. So I didn't really tell that many people that I literally was taking trombone lessons. After high school, I would go and take, like sessions with a professional player, you know, and I would go practice on my own. And people were like, where are you going? And I wouldn't tell them. Because if what if I, what if I auditioned and I failed? You know? You know, but imagine if I had instead shared and said, I'm gonna go do this because I want to go get the scholarship, the encouragement and support that would have helped me. Lesley Logan 25:29  Oh, my gosh, it's so true. It's so true. I loved when she talked about community, of course, I think that Be It Action Item is amazing. So she said be in community, on any level, with others in the practice of giving, but also, and this is the part I loved, receiving. Because I think a lot of people will like, oh, I'm doing this thing. And I'm doing this thing I'm giving, giving, giving, but you're never receiving. And it's really important to receive because you learn so much more about yourself and others. And then you have the ability to give when it's when you have the ability to give. She also said build those relationships, there are ones that will sustain you mentally. And then there are some that can sustain you financially if you need it. That puts you in the spirit of feeling that you're doing good. And then also she said this, also advocate and be an activist in your own way. And I think that's really cool. I think we sometimes we think of the word activist, and we think we have to like be out screaming with a poster somewhere. But you don't have to be that you can be an activist in your own family and making sure they vote, I can be an activist right now I'm gonna advocate for all of you, wherever you live, if you are allowed to vote. If you are actually allowed to vote where you live, you must do it, you owe it to yourself to do it. And for those you who live in the States, I'm gonna tell you right now, make sure you're registered. Double check, do all the things. Make sure your family is I don't care if you don't like all options. You have like, I vote in the advocacy of others, of always thinking of other people when I choose the person I'm voting for. And like that is my way of being an activist and advocate. And it's not big, it's not huge. And other ways you can be an activist or an advocate is like charitable work, like you can actually donate. Like, if you don't have the time, if you have some money, you can give it to them, right? Or you can connect people who might have the money that this charity needs. There's like so many ways you can act as an advocate. You can like so never ever think like, oh, I don't I'm not I'm not someone who can, who can stand up to a crowd and like tell people things, you can do it in your own way. And one of the things I'm excited to share is that after listening to Rebekah, I was so inspired. I was like, how do I talk to this woman all the time? And I still haven't figured that out. So but what I can tell you is she told me she told us about Little Readers Big Change, that organization. And I know the power of reading for me when I was a little kid, I know what it did for me and what it did for my creativity and my imagination and all that stuff. And so OPC's charity for this year is Little Readers Big Change. And I just found out from our team that we are making our first, our Q1 payment to that charity. So I can't tell you today how much it is because I wasn't told that yet. But I can tell you that we have them slotted I'm so excited. We will be donating each quarter to them. And I think that is a really cool way to give back. Brad Crowell 28:14  Yeah, every year we choose a new charity to support and so yeah, we're stoked to be effectively helping bring books to schools.Lesley Logan 28:25  Yeah. So thank you, Rebekah, for letting me know about this amazing charity it's so cool to learn about it and it's really cool that we can we can donate to that charity this year. I'm Lesley Logan. Lesley Logan 28:35  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 28:36  Thank you so much for listening to this. Shout out to Roxy Menzies who was a guest who was the one who connected Rebekah. She knew I would love her. I do a lot and I'm really so excited to hear what your takeaways are, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Please let the Be It Pod know. Let Row House Publishing, let Rebekah know, like, tell her if any of these parts is really took because you know what, it's really hard to run a company and I bet you today she might just need to hear that like something she said just blew your mind, changed your life, inspired you to do something big. I'm sure it would make her feel incredibly amazing. So, go do that and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 29:11  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 29:13  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day.   Lesley Logan 29:41  Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod. Brad Crowell 29:56  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 30:00  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co. Brad Crowell 30:05  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi. Lesley Logan 30:12  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals. Brad Crowell 30:15  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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