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Listened in 86 countries, this is a podcast about the drinks and hospitality industries: with a no-nonsense approach, it focuses on how beverage brands are built in the On-trade. Each episode brings insights on building a brand from the bottom up, from glass to bottle, to case to pallet. Host Chris Maffeo brings all his industry experience, building premium drinks brands across 30+ markets, from beer to whisky. He interviews drink founders, managers, bartenders, and distributors. Brands are built bottom-up. https://linktr.ee/maffeodrinks

Chris Maffeo


    • Nov 24, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    112 | Winning Without Deep Pockets: Maurice Doyle on Capital-Efficient Drinks Growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 24, 2025 35:36


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com Maurice Doyle returns to MAFFEO DRINKS to dissect the drinks industry's inflection point, where COVID's artificial peak has given way to a "new reality" of capital constraints and complexity.Drawing from his veteran experience across major spirits and scale-up companies, Maurice reveals how brands can achieve growth without abundant funding by focusing ruthlessly on strategy, particularly what NOT to do.The conversation explores the tension between principles and tactics, why "I don't know" might be the most powerful leadership phrase, and how misaligned expectations between bottom-up brand building and top-down objectives create systemic friction.Maurice's core insight: in a world where 95% of your target market isn't buying at any given moment, success comes from matching physical availability with mental availability while resisting the siren call of premature retail listings.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Industry Veterans Discussion02:30 Current State of Drinks Industry - The Inflection Point08:15 Capital Challenges and New Reality Post-COVID12:45 Strategic Focus: The Power of Saying No18:20 Principles vs Playbooks - Beyond Cookie Cutter Approaches25:10 Getting Out From Behind the Desk Philosophy32:40 Capital-Efficient Growth Strategies38:55 Balancing Long-term Strategy with Short-term Pressures If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    111 | Wine for Everyone: How Brodie Meah Took Top Cuvée from One Restaurant to Retail to National Distribution

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2025 29:02


    Brodie Meah, co-founder of Top Cuvée, reveals how one neighborhood restaurant in Highbury became the foundation for a "wine for everyone" movement that achieved national distribution.Starting in 2019 with 40 covers nightly, Top Cuvée's journey from restaurant to retail to wholesale exemplifies bottom-up brand building.Having witnessed fine dining's intimidation tactics firsthand in Melbourne, Brodie flipped the industry's most exclusive phrase:"top cuvée" (wines deemed too good for regular guests) into a symbol of accessibility.The COVID pivot unlocked game-changing insights: wine labels matter enormously in retail but not restaurants, £8 glasses translate to £22 retail bottles, and wine's aversion to "openly commercial" marketing creates opportunity.By building trust glass by glass, turning regulars into brand ambassadors, and proving neighborhood hospitality can scale, Top Cuvée transformed from one Highbury restaurant to shops to national wholesale—keeping "wine for everyone" real.Timestamps:00:00 From Fine Dining to "Wine for Everyone" Philosophy03:00 One Restaurant to National Distribution Journey06:00 Wine Intimidation and the Leather Entrance Story09:30 Flipping "Top Cuvée" from Exclusive to Inclusive12:00 Why Wine Bars Shouldn't Feel Educational15:00 Building Community - The T-Shirt Customer Story18:00 Labels Matter in Shops, Not Restaurant Lists21:00 The £8 Glass = £22 Bottle Sweet Spot24:00 Wine's "Dirty Word" Marketing Problem27:00 Trust Engines and Part Two Preview

    110 | How Intimidating Menus Keep Cocktail Culture Niche (And Hunter Gregory's Approach to Breaking Through At Maybe Sammy)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2025 38:27


    In this episode of MAFFEO DRINKS, host Chris Maffeo speaks with Hunter Gregory, Bar Manager at Maybe Sammy in Sydney, Australia, about scaling cocktail culture beyond the usual suspects and making premium cocktails accessible to everyday drinkers.The conversation explores Sydney's cocktail scene positioned "10 years behind London" despite having quality bars that rival global standards, but revealing how average consumers struggle with understanding enhanced cocktail experiences just like other cities.Hunter shares the origin story of Maybe Sammy's transformation from a serious hotel-style bar to an energetic showmanship destination when founder Stefano Catino bought a bubble gun from Kmart and decided "f**k it, let's have some fun."We examine the strategic use of mini martinis during happy hour as a trust-building gateway that gradually brings guests on a cocktail journey from classics to experimental drinks like milk-washed Negroni, Americano with Vegemite macadamia milk.The discussion covers how Asian cocktail trends increasingly influence Australian bars as European bartenders migrate eastward, the philosophy of "your guests are not always right, but they're always your guests," and why the shift from serving gin and tonics at 10pm to serving complex cocktails throughout the night represents six years of earned trust.Hunter provides insights on breaking down intimidating cocktail menus, managing consumer expectations around "serious" bar environments, and understanding that people seek experiences that make them feel better rather than just drinks.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction: Scaling Cocktail Culture to Wider Audiences02:15 Sydney Cocktail Scene: 10 Years Behind London06:30 Australian Drinking Culture: Amazing Bars vs Everyday Pubs09:45 The Demographic Challenge: Experience vs Getting Drunk13:20 Asian Influence on Australian Cocktail Trends17:40 Maybe Sammy Origin Story: From Stuffy to Fun21:25 The Bubble Gun Moment: Breaking Hotel Bar Barriers24:50 Show Business Philosophy: Serious About Craft, Not Ourselves28:10 Mini Martini Strategy: Building Trust Through Happy Hour32:15 Guest Journey: From Classics to Experimental Over Six Years35:40 Wrap up: Making Cocktail Culture Accessible and Fun

    109 | The Trend of Ignoring Trends | How Matilda Andersson Uses Ethnographic Research to Uncover Real Consumer Insights in Drinks

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2025 44:18


    In this episode of MAFFEO DRINKS, host Chris Maffeo speaks with Matilda Andersson, Managing Director at Truth Consulting, about transforming how drinks brands approach consumer insights and market research.The conversation explores why traditional focus group research fails to capture authentic consumer behavior, and how ethnographic research (observing people in bars, homes, festivals, and unexpected locations) reveals the cultural truths that drive brand success.Matilda introduces "the trend of ignoring trends," explaining the critical difference between fast-moving fads (TikTok dances, viral flavors) and slow-changing cultural fundamentals (rituals, occasions, social connections) that brands should actually focus on.We examine the premium positioning trap where every brand claims to be premium, creating bland homogenization rather than differentiation.The discussion challenges conventional wisdom about Gen Z drinking habits, revealing they're drinking differently rather than abstaining, and explores why generational commonalities matter more than manufactured differences.Why occasions and rituals as more valuable strategic frameworks than demographic targeting, showing how brands must earn relevance in existing consumer moments rather than creating artificial ones.Key topics include participant observation methodology, brand self-awareness, cultural rituals in modern context, qualitative research integration with quantitative analysis, and how brands can actively shape culture rather than passively follow trends.Timestamps :00:00 - Introduction: Insights, Rituals & Cultural Role of Drinks02:15 - Matilda Andersson Background: Career in Consumer Insights & Drinks Industry05:30 - Cultural Role of Drinks: Historical Context & Modern Rituals08:45 - The Trend of Ignoring Trends: Fast vs Slow Cultural Change12:20 - How Brands Can Differentiate What's Worth Pursuing15:40 - Brand Self-Awareness & The Premium Positioning Trap19:10 - Understanding Your Brand's Core vs Chasing Competition22:35 - Probable Futures: Active Cultural Participation vs Passive Reception25:50 - The Spritz Example: When Trend-Chasing Goes Wrong28:20 - What is Ethnographic Research? Definition & Methodology31:15 - Real Insights Happen at the Bar (and McDonald's)34:25 - The Laziness Problem: Why Brands Don't Observe Enough36:50 - Gen Z Drinking Myths: They're Drinking Differently, Not Less39:20 - Generational Commonalities & Occasions Over Demographics42:10 - Wrap-up: Key Takeaways on Cultural Insights & Ethnographic Research

    108 | Leveraging Trade Fairs to Drive Demand | How Supasawa's Team Optimizes Managing Sales in 55 Markets

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 29, 2025 40:47


    Continuing our previous conversation, Guillaume Lambrecht explains his trade fair strategy for building global presence with Supasawa, focusing primarily on his BCB Berlin approach. With distributors across 55 markets, through strategic trade show investments rather than individual country visits.This episode details his methods for maximizing trade fair ROI, including relationship-focused meetings, community building at industry events, and using trade shows as cost-effective alternatives to extensive international travel. Guillaume outlines how he leverages events like BCB Berlin to maintain distributor relationships and establish global brand presence.Covers trade show networking strategies, international distributor management through industry events, and approaches to global brand building via strategic fair participation.Timestamps:-00:00 Introduction: International Scaling Strategies for Small Beverage Brands- 05:37 Community-Driven Growth: Social Media and Organic Brand Advocacy Systems- 11:35 Relationship-Based Sales: Human-to-Human Business Philosophy for Global Markets- 19:31 Trade Show ROI Strategy: BCB Berlin Investment and International Networking Optimization- 38:04 Global Distribution: Route to Market and International Distributor Management- 45:12 Market Adaptation: COVID-19 Opportunities and Business Resilience Strategies- 52:30 Sustainable Expansion: Quality Relationship Management Across 55 Markets

    107 | Making a Functional Category Cool: How Guillaume Lambrecht Turned Supasawa into a Lifestyle Brand

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2025 29:49


    In this episode of MAFFEO DRINKS, Guillaume Lambrecht explains his approach to creating market demand for Supasawa, a shelf-stable sour mixer, focusing primarily on his category creation methodology.We go through how he developed the product through 60-70 recipe iterations and managed customer validation through direct bar visits rather than traditional market research approaches.This episode details his methods for educating customers about operational problems they may not recognize, including face-to-face conversations, hands-on demonstrations, and using customer discovery as cost-effective alternative to extensive market analysis.Guillaume outlines how he leverages direct customer feedback to establish new product categories and build market awareness from zero recognition.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction: Market Validation for Unknown Categories and Invisible Problems05:37 Product Development Process: 60-70 Recipe Iterations and Customer Feedback Loops11:35 Customer Discovery: Face-to-Face Bar Visits and Problem Identification Techniques19:31 Market Segmentation: Skill-Based Bar Typologies and Operational Complexity Analysis32:45 Workflow Innovation: Pre-Batching Systems and Extended Shelf-Life Benefits38:04 Customer Education: Problem-Awareness Creation and Solution Positioning45:12 Market Creation Strategy: Category Establishment and Demand Generation Tactics

    106 | From Modern Classics to Accessible Cocktail Culture: Federico Riezzo on Villa Mamo, Terroir, and Scaling Hospitality

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2025 42:12


    In this continuation of their conversation, Chris Maffeo interviews Federico Riezzo about modern cocktail classics, Villa Mamo's terroir-driven approach, and scaling cocktail culture. Federico reflects on cocktail legends like Douglas Ankrah and the era that created enduring drinks like the Pornstar Martini, Penicillin , and Breakfast Martini, while exploring why new cocktails struggle to achieve lasting status in today's social media environment.Learn about Villa Mamo, Federico's renovated 1786 Tuscan farmhouse and boutique hospitality venue, where he collaborates with local foragers to create hyper-local botanical cocktails using terroir-driven ingredients. Discover Federico's lower ABV cocktail philosophy that encourages extended social drinking experiences and better guest engagement.Chris and Federico examine the cocktail industry's workforce challenges, discussing how modern bartenders increasingly prioritize technical innovation over essential hospitality skills like guest reading and relationship building.Perfect for bar managers, hospitality professionals, cocktail enthusiasts, and anyone interested in sustainable cocktail culture, terroir-driven mixology, and the future of the bar industry.Timestamps :00:00 From Douglas Ankrah's Porn Star Martini to the other Modern Classics08:15 Cocktail Culture Gap Analysis16:30 Villa Mamo's Terroir Approach24:45 Lower ABV Philosophy and Social Drinking32:20 Industry Workforce Challenges40:04 Future of Hospitality and Scaling Culture

    105 | The Bar Under Their Palm: Federico Riezzo on London 90's Cocktail Golden Era and Why Service Beats Technical Skills

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2025 41:19


    In this episode, Chris Maffeo talks to Federico Riezzo, hospitality veteran and founder of Villa Mamo (a Villa in Tuscany), about London's cocktail renaissance and why human connection beats technical skills in bartending. Federico shares his experience at legendary London cocktail bars like The Pharmacy, Lab, Sketch, and Sanderson Hotel during the cocktail revival of the late 1990s and early 2000s. Learn how exceptional bartenders combined technical excellence with infectious energy to create welcoming environments that prioritize guest experience over complex mixology.Chris and Federico explore how service philosophy transforms bartenders into "gatekeepers of sales" through trust-building techniques like spirit sampling and storytelling. Discover practical hospitality strategies that create memorable bar experiences, generate customer loyalty, and drive organic word-of-mouth marketing in the cocktail industry.Perfect for bartenders, bar managers, hospitality professionals, cocktail enthusiasts, and anyone interested in London's cocktail history and modern bar service excellence.Timestamps00:00 Introduction and Villa Mamo Overview08:15 London Cocktail Renaissance Era16:30 Service Philosophy vs Technical Skills24:45 Trust-Building Through Sampling32:20 Munich Bar Experience Example37:46 Gatekeepers of Sales Concept

    104 | Filiberto Amati | Zebra-Striping Between Categories to Elevate Occasions

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2025 41:20


    Filiberto Amati, Founder of ‪AmatiAssociates‬ and Head of Partnerships at MAFFEO DRINKS, is a veteran of major spirits companies, including Campari and Di Saronno.He dissects the post-COVID reality facing the spirits industry, revealing how the pandemic created a temporary "shock" that artificially inflated off-trade volumes while disrupting traditional brand-building pathways.Drawing from his deep beverage industry expertise, Filiberto explains how consumption patterns are realigning to pre-pandemic trends—exposing brands that gained artificial traction during lockdowns without building genuine on-trade education or loyalty.The conversation explores how consumers increasingly practice "zebra-striping"—switching between categories within the same occasion—why cultural movements drive successful brand rituals from Aperol's orange visual cue to Corona's lime mythology, and how route-to-market consolidation is reshaping competitive dynamics across the fragmented spirits landscape.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and COVID Impact Context03:45 Post-Pandemic Volume Normalization09:20 On-Trade Education Crisis Analysis16:15 Off-Trade vs On-Trade Dynamics23:30 Category Blurification and Zebra Striping Occasions28:45 Route-to-Market Consolidation Trends

    103 | Filiberto Amati | The Revolution Reshaping the Drinks Ecosystem (E.g. Diageo, Pernod-Ricard, Campari, Brown-Forman, etc.)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2025 31:07


    Filiberto Amati, Founder of Amati & Associates and Head of Partnerships at MAFFEO DRINKS, is a veteran of major spirits companies, including Campari and Di Saronno. He dissects the seismic "shrink for growth" transformation, reshaping the global spirits industry. Drawing from his deep FMCG expertise, Filiberto explains how spirits companies are finally adopting consolidation strategies that transformed consumer goods giants two decades ago—moving from "economies of scale" obsessions to a strategic "economies of scope" focus. As Campari divests Cinzano, Brown-Forman sells Finlandia, and Diageo sells Pampero Rum, Filiberto reveals how this isn't random portfolio shuffling but a calculated response to activist investor pressure and economic uncertainty. The conversation explores if mega-mergers are likely in the fragmented spirits industry, how mid-tier players like Gruppo Montenegro and Caffo are capitalizing on cast-off assets to build global scale, and why this inflection point will reshape competitive dynamics for the next 10-15 years.Disclaimer: All analysis is based on publicly available information.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and FMCG Context02:15 Shrink for Growth Phenomenon Explained06:30 Economies of Scale vs Scope12:45 Industry Fragmentation Reality18:20 Listed vs Private Company Dynamics23:10 Mid-Tier Consolidation Opportunities28:15 Future Industry Structure Predictions

    102 | Ben Branson | No Cookie-Cutter Formula For Building Non-Alc Spirits - The 3 Core Things and 1000 People | Seedlip, Seasn, Sylva Labs.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2025 57:37


    In this episode of the MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast, Host Chris Maffeo talks to Ben Branson, founder of Seedlip and now Sylva and Seasn, shares his journey of creating the modern non-alcoholic spirits category. From his farming background to launching the world's first distilled non-alcoholic spirits, Ben discusses the critical importance of building categories before brands, the evolution from direct-to-consumer to retail distribution, and his philosophy of three essential elements. He emphasizes the drinks industry's B2B2B2C nature, the value of premium credibility through top-tier accounts, and his current ventures, including Sylva (an aged non-alcoholic spirit using British trees) and Seasn (cocktail bitters). Ben's approach centers on properly developing products, understanding cultural contexts beyond liquid, and maintaining relationships with the influential "1000 people that matter" while scaling.0:00 Introduction to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast00:12 Meet Ben Branson: Founder of Seedlip00:37 Building a Category from Scratch03:10 The Importance of Choice in Non-Alcoholic Beverages06:24 Challenges and Dynamics in the Non-Alcoholic Market09:12 Understanding the Drinks Ecosystem12:20 The Role of Occasions in Brand Building13:51 Direct-to-Consumer vs. Traditional On and Off Trade27:50 The Power of First Impressions and Credibility32:28 The Importance of Influential Customers33:27 Halo vs. Habit: Building Brand Relationships34:22 Balancing Supermarket and Independent Distribution38:43 The Role of Planning in Brand Launches39:40 Learning the Drinks Industry42:05 The Value of Experience and Patience52:30 Navigating Competition and Protecting Your Brand55:41 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways

    102 | Ben Branson | No Cookie-Cutter Formula For Building Non-Alc Spirits - The 3 Core Things and The 1000 People | Seedlip, Seasn, Sylva Labs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2025 57:48 Transcription Available


    In this episode of the MAFFEO DRINKS Podcast, Host Chris Maffeo talks to Ben Branson, founder of Seedlip and now Sylva and Seasn, shares his journey of creating the modern non-alcoholic spirits category. From his farming background to launching the world's first distilled non-alcoholic spirits, Ben discusses the critical importance of building categories before brands, the evolution from direct-to-consumer to retail distribution, and his philosophy of three essential elements. He emphasizes the drinks industry's B2B2B2C nature, the value of premium credibility through top-tier accounts, and his current ventures, including Sylva (an aged non-alcoholic spirit using British trees) and Seasn (cocktail bitters). Ben's approach centers on properly developing products, understanding cultural contexts beyond liquid, and maintaining relationships with the influential "1000 people that matter" while scaling.Timestamps:0:00 Introduction to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast00:12 Meet Ben Branson: Founder of Seedlip00:37 Building a Category from Scratch03:10 The Importance of Choice in Non-Alcoholic Beverages06:24 Challenges and Dynamics in the Non-Alcoholic Market09:12 Understanding the Drinks Ecosystem12:20 The Role of Occasions in Brand Building13:51 Direct-to-Consumer vs. Traditional On and Off Trade27:50 The Power of First Impressions and Credibility32:28 The Importance of Influential Customers33:27 Halo vs. Habit: Building Brand Relationships34:22 Balancing Supermarket and Independent Distribution38:43 The Role of Planning in Brand Launches39:40 Learning the Drinks Industry42:05 The Value of Experience and Patience52:30 Navigating Competition and Protecting Your Brand55:41 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways

    101 | Kaitlin Wilkes | Drinks Strategies & Brand Advocacy | Video Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2025 39:15


    Join host Chris Maffeo as he chats with Kait Wilkes, an industry veteran with 15 years of global experience (just nominated #40 on the Drinks International Top 100 List). The episode was recorded during the Mirror Hospitality Expo, hosted by Mirror Bar in Bratislava (Just nominated #62 on 50 Best Bars).Kait shares her journey from bartending to advocacy, offering insights on navigating the drinks and hospitality industry. They discuss the different perspectives between bartenders and brands, the importance of a well-thought-out drink strategy, and how smaller brands can thrive. Kait also emphasizes the importance of long-term relationships, authenticity, and mentorship in the industry. Tune in to understand how to build a sustainable brand bottom-up and hear Kaits' expert advice for upcoming bartenders and brand advocates.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction to Maffeo Drinks Podcast00:26 Guest Introduction: Kait's Journey in the Drinks Industry03:35 The Disconnect Between Drinks and Hospitality Industries05:53 Building Authentic Brand Partnerships11:54 Challenges and Strategies for Small Brands18:26 Long-Term Brand Advocacy and Relationship Building21:25 Crafting a Purposeful Drink Strategy22:01 The Role of Drink Strategy in Brand Promotion22:32 Simplifying Cocktails for the Consumer24:22 Understanding Drink Trends and Market Adaptation28:07 Supporting Bartenders and Their Career Growth31:48 Navigating Cocktail Competitions37:04 Final Thoughts and Authentic Connections

    100 | Chris Walker | Bootstrapped vs. VC Funded & The Pursue of Founder's Freedom

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2025 34:09


    In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, Chris Maffeo welcomes Chris Walker, an entrepreneur known for his insights into bootstrapping and the modern startup environment (he is the Founder of Refine Labs and Passetto). His work on the Stacking Growth Podcast (Ex Revenue Vitals) inspired him to launch his podcast.They discuss common misconceptions about the need for venture capital, the importance of overcoming limiting beliefs, and the essential skills every founder should master. Chris shares his experiences and thoughts on why many businesses fail due to unnecessary funding and the mental barriers hindering entrepreneurship.The discussion also covers how to achieve personal alignment, the myth of media glorification, and the reality of building a sustainable business. Tune in for valuable lessons on creating and scaling businesses effectively.00:00 Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast00:09 Inspiration and Beginnings01:11 Bootstrapping vs. Venture Capital03:33 Overcoming Limiting Beliefs06:45 The Reality of Entrepreneurship 115:14 Procrastination and Action18:07 The Power of Self-Belief32:49 Final Thoughts and Farewell

    099 | Luke Hemsley | Targeting Midweek Drinking Occasions With Wednesday's Domaine's Alcohol-Free Wine

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2025 40:47


    In this Episode, Host Chris Maffeo talks to Luke Hemsley, founder of Wednesday's Domaine, who discusses how his alcohol-free wine brand addresses the twin challenges of awareness and appreciation in an emerging category. Unlike beer and spirits, which have made significant inroads in the alcohol-free space, wine has lagged due to historical quality issues and consumer skepticism.Rather than positioning against alcohol, Wednesday's Domaine focuses on creating a midweek wine alternative for food and drink lovers who might occasionally want the ritual of wine without its effects. Luke shares insights on their strategic focus on the off-trade (particularly independent retailers), creating a geographic concentration in specific neighborhoods, and making their product stand out on shelves without sacrificing sophistication.The conversation explores how on-trade and off-trade create a circular relationship that builds category credibility, the pricing psychology of alcohol-free alternatives, and the founder's journey of knowing when to delegate versus when personal passion is irreplaceable.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and welcome01:25 Initial connections and origin story03:10 Awareness and appreciation challenges07:40 Positioning as midweek alternative11:05 Consumers' relationship with alcohol-free options15:30 Psychology of non-alcoholic choices20:45 On-trade vs. off-trade strategy26:20 Pricing and value perception30:10 Independent retail and geographic focus35:05 Product visibility challenges38:40 Founder's journey and scaling42:30 Final thoughts and contact information

    098 | Paul Thomas | Good vs. Bad Market Research: From Bars to Boardrooms | Suntory Global Spirits

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2025 38:08


    In this return appearance on the Maffeo Drinks podcast, Paul Thomas, whom host Chris Maffeo dubs "the king of insights," shares wisdom on how to escape the marketing "ivory tower" and understand real consumer behavior.Paul advocates for marketers to personally observe products in various venues rather than relying solely on data. The conversation examines how brands should adopt occasion-based marketing over demographic targeting, striking a balance between aspirational positioning and pragmatic distribution strategies. Paul critiques the research industry's shift toward "faster and cheaper" methodologies at the expense of quality, encouraging brands to conduct fewer but better studies.The episode concludes with advice on creating an "insight ecosystem" that balances qualitative observations with quantitative data, emphasizing the value of curiosity in understanding how consumers interact with drink brands in different contexts.Timestamps:0:00 Introduction to Maffeo Drinks Podcast00:19 Welcoming Back a Special Guest01:00 Diving into Key Topics02:00 Understanding Consumer Insights05:46 The Reality of Market Segmentation07:57 Strategies for Brand Placement14:09 The Importance of Research31:56 Balancing Qualitative and Quantitative Data36:18 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

    098 | Paul Thomas | Good vs. Bad Market Research: From Bars to Boardrooms | Suntory Global Spirits

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2025 38:11 Transcription Available


    In this return appearance on the Maffeo Drinks podcast, Paul Thomas, whom host Chris Maffeo dubs "the king of insights," shares wisdom on how to escape the marketing "ivory tower" and understand real consumer behavior.Paul advocates for marketers to personally observe products in various venues rather than relying solely on data. The conversation examines how brands should adopt occasion-based marketing over demographic targeting, striking a balance between aspirational positioning and pragmatic distribution strategies. Paul critiques the research industry's shift toward "faster and cheaper" methodologies at the expense of quality, encouraging brands to conduct fewer but better studies.The episode concludes with advice on creating an "insight ecosystem" that balances qualitative observations with quantitative data, emphasizing the value of curiosity in understanding how consumers interact with drink brands in different contexts.(00:00) - to Maffeo Drinks Podcast (00:19) - Back a Special Guest (01:00) - into Key Topics (02:00) - Consumer Insights (05:46) - Reality of Market Segmentation (07:57) - for Brand Placement (14:09) - Importance of Research (31:56) - Qualitative and Quantitative Data (36:18) - Thoughts and Wrap-Up

    097 | Mastery & Imagination: How Compass Box is Redefining Whisky Marketing | Racheal Vaughan Jones

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2025 35:38


    In this episode, Chris Maffeo speaks to Racheal Vaughan Jones and discusses how Compass Box has positioned itself as "whisky makers" in the Scotch whisky industry. Founded in 2000 with a mission to make the Scotch world more interesting, Compass Box balances mastery and imagination in its brand essence.Recently, the company streamlined its core range into a more intuitive collection of four distinct flavor territories while maintaining its artistic limited editions.Racheal shares insights into its recent brand positioning, "Long Live Interesting," and how it has successfully translated it through packaging, communication, and targeted campaign activations across key cities.The brand's recent award-winning "Hedonism" limited edition showcases its collaboration with female artists and embodies its philosophy of starting with an organically evolving idea.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:30 Special Guest Introduction01:53 The Story of Compass Box04:23 Brand Positioning and Marketing10:29 Core Range and Consumer Experience14:29 Limited Editions and Awards20:05 Limited edition approach with Hedonism26:06 Communication and Marketing Strategies30:30 Localized activation and content strategy33:45 Creating demand and brand-building philosophy

    097 | Racheal Vaughan Jones | Mastery & Imagination: How Compass Box is Redefining Whisky Marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2025 37:15


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode, Chris Maffeo speaks to Racheal Vaughan Jones and discusses how Compass Box has positioned itself as "whisky makers" in the Scotch whisky industry. Founded in 2000 with a mission to make the Scotch world more interesting, Compass Box balances mastery and imagination in its brand essence.Recently, the company streamlined its core range into a more intuitive collection of four distinct flavor territories while maintaining its artistic limited editions.Racheal shares insights into its recent brand positioning, "Long Live Interesting," and how it has successfully translated it through packaging, communication, and targeted campaign activations across key cities.The brand's recent award-winning "Hedonism" limited edition showcases its collaboration with female artists and embodies its philosophy of starting with an organically evolving idea.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:30 Special Guest Introduction01:53 The Story of Compass Box04:23 Brand Positioning and Marketing10:29 Core Range and Consumer Experience14:29 Limited Editions and Awards20:05 Limited edition approach with Hedonism26:06 Communication and Marketing Strategies30:30 Localized activation and content strategy33:45 Creating demand and brand-building philosophy If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    096 | That Sh*t Will Never Sell: Drinks Brands. From The Bottom-up (And Sometimes Not!) | David Gluckman

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 36:58


    Join us on this episode of the Maffeo Drinks podcast, where Chris Maffeo chats with drinks industry legend David Gluckman about the fascinating world of drink innovation and product development. David shares insights from his recent book (That Sh*t Will Never Sell), offering a look back at the history and evolution of the drinks industry.The conversation covers iconic brands he created like Bailey's, Ciroc, and Tanqueray Ten, product ownership's importance, and consumer research's often flawed nature.David also discusses how great brands can be built without conventional testing and the critical role of liquid excellence. Tune in for an engaging discussion that blends business acumen with the art of drink creation.The discussion provides insights into the importance of ownership, consumer behavior, and the significance of product distinction in brand building. David also emphasizes the value of real-world testing over consumer research, reflecting on his approach to developing iconic spirits.Aspiring brand builders and drink enthusiasts will find valuable lessons in this engaging conversation.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:29 Guest Introduction: David's Journey01:19 The Bailey's Story: Market Research and Success04:43 Brand Development Philosophy09:36 Challenges in Spirits Marketing12:38 Product Innovation and Differentiation25:44 Ownership and Long-Term Brand Building32:07 Conclusion and Farewell

    096 | David Gluckman | That Sh*t Will Never Sell: Drinks Brands. From The Bottom-up (And Sometimes Not!)

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 38:35


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com Join us on this episode of the Maffeo Drinks podcast, where Chris Maffeo chats with drinks industry legend David Gluckman about the fascinating world of drink innovation and product development. David shares insights from his recent book (That Sh*t Will Never Sell), offering a look back at the history and evolution of the drinks industry.The conversation covers iconic brands he created like Bailey's, Ciroc, and Tanqueray Ten, product ownership's importance, and consumer research's often flawed nature.David also discusses how great brands can be built without conventional testing and the critical role of liquid excellence. Tune in for an engaging discussion that blends business acumen with the art of drink creation.The discussion provides insights into the importance of ownership, consumer behavior, and the significance of product distinction in brand building. David also emphasizes the value of real-world testing over consumer research, reflecting on his approach to developing iconic spirits.Aspiring brand builders and drink enthusiasts will find valuable lessons in this engaging conversation.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:29 Guest Introduction: David's Journey01:19 The Bailey's Story: Market Research and Success04:43 Brand Development Philosophy09:36 Challenges in Spirits Marketing12:38 Product Innovation and Differentiation25:44 Ownership and Long-Term Brand Building32:07 Conclusion and Farewell If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    095 | Scaling the Unscalable: The Bottom-Up Approach to Brand Building | Chris Maffeo

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2025 33:04


    Join this episode with Shawn Soole from the Post Shift Podcast In this episode, Chris shares invaluable insights on how small brands, such as bars, restaurants, distilleries, and breweries, can effectively build their brand. From understanding the importance of local success before expanding to managing relationships with importers and distributors, Chris breaks down the fundamentals of brand building. They also discuss the challenges and strategies for maintaining authenticity while scaling, the role of passion versus business in the drinks industry, and navigating the complexities of the B2B2B2C market. Whether you're a newcomer or an established player in the beverage world, this episode is filled with actionable advice to help you succeed.00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:31 Guest Introduction: Chris Maffeo02:04 Chris Maffeo's Background and Career Journey04:58 Brand-Building Fundamentals10:58 Challenges and Strategies in the Craft Spirits Industry16:49 Scaling and Distribution Insights19:11 Balancing Passion and Business25:06 Entrepreneurial Advice and Future Plans32:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    095 | Chris Maffeo | Scaling the Unscalable: The Bottom-Up Approach to Brand Building by MAFFEO DRINKS

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2025 34:41


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com Join this episode with Shawn Soole from the Post Shift Podcast In this episode, Chris shares invaluable insights on how small brands, such as bars, restaurants, distilleries, and breweries, can effectively build their brand. From understanding the importance of local success before expanding to managing relationships with importers and distributors, Chris breaks down the fundamentals of brand building. They also discuss the challenges and strategies for maintaining authenticity while scaling, the role of passion versus business in the drinks industry, and navigating the complexities of the B2B2B2C market. Whether you're a newcomer or an established player in the beverage world, this episode is filled with actionable advice to help you succeed.00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:31 Guest Introduction: Chris Maffeo02:04 Chris Maffeo's Background and Career Journey04:58 Brand-Building Fundamentals10:58 Challenges and Strategies in the Craft Spirits Industry16:49 Scaling and Distribution Insights19:11 Balancing Passion and Business25:06 Entrepreneurial Advice and Future Plans32:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    094 | Beyond Brand Training: Education & The Evolution of Aperitivo | Roberta Mariani | Savoia & Italicus

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2025 40:26


    In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, host Chris Maffeo chats with Roberta Mariani, the Advocacy Director for Savoia and Ital Spirits. Roberta shares her extensive experience in the hospitality and drinks industry, offering insights on building effective advocacy programs, the rise of the aperitivo culture, and focusing on category education over brand promotion. They also discuss the evolving role of Italian bartenders, the increasing popularity of vermouth and Amari, and the critical issue of well-being within the industry. Whether you're in the drinks business or simply a cocktail enthusiast, tune in for a deep dive into the latest industry trends and tips for achieving a sustainable work-life balance.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:32 Guest Introduction: Roberta Mariani02:41 Building Brand Advocacy07:34 The Rise of Aperitivo Culture12:47 The Role of Italian Bartenders23:56 Innovative Cocktail Creation31:18 Promoting Well-being in the Industry38:49 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    094 | Roberta Mariani | Beyond Brand Training: Education & The Evolution of Aperitivo with Savoia & Italicus

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2025 42:03


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, host Chris Maffeo chats with Roberta Mariani, the Advocacy Director for Savoia and Ital Spirits. Roberta shares her extensive experience in the hospitality and drinks industry, offering insights on building effective advocacy programs, the rise of the aperitivo culture, and focusing on category education over brand promotion. They also discuss the evolving role of Italian bartenders, the increasing popularity of vermouth and Amari, and the critical issue of well-being within the industry. Whether you're in the drinks business or simply a cocktail enthusiast, tune in for a deep dive into the latest industry trends and tips for achieving a sustainable work-life balance.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:32 Guest Introduction: Roberta Mariani02:41 Building Brand Advocacy07:34 The Rise of Aperitivo Culture12:47 The Role of Italian Bartenders23:56 Innovative Cocktail Creation31:18 Promoting Well-being in the Industry38:49 Conclusion and Final Thoughts If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    093 | Cracking Distribution, Bottom-Up in Dubai and The Gulf | Sophie Cookson | Craft & Culture UAE

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2025 37:44


    In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, host Chris Maffeo is joined by Sophie Cookson, a seasoned expert in the liquor industry with over a decade of experience in Dubai and the UAE.Sophie shares insights on the evolving liquor landscape in the Middle East, discusses the challenges and opportunities for small and medium-sized brands in the region, and the importance of having a regional strategy.The conversation also touches on the role of Dubai duty-free as a significant channel for marketing and brand building. Sophie emphasizes the need for brands to have local presence and support to thrive in the Middle East market.Tune in to learn about the unique dynamics of the Gulf region's liquor market and how brands can successfully navigate this complex but rewarding environment.Key Highlights:Navigating the evolving liquor landscape in the Middle EastStrategic insights for small and medium-sized brands entering the marketThe unique role of Dubai duty-free in brand buildingEssential strategies for establishing local presence and supportTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome00:30 - Guest Introduction: Sophie Cookson01:07 - The Liquor Industry in Dubai02:41 - Challenges and Opportunities for Small Brands04:24 - Legalities and Regulations in the UAE07:39 - Brand Building Strategies10:56 - The Role of Expats and Duty-Free15:10 - Supporting Bartenders and Craft Brands26:25 - Travel Retail Opportunities35:36 - Conclusion and Contact Information

    093 | Sophie Cookson | Cracking Distribution, Bottom-Up in Dubai and The Gulf with Craft & Culture UAE

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2025 39:20


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, host Chris Maffeo is joined by Sophie Cookson, a seasoned expert in the liquor industry with over a decade of experience in Dubai and the UAE.Sophie shares insights on the evolving liquor landscape in the Middle East, discusses the challenges and opportunities for small and medium-sized brands in the region, and the importance of having a regional strategy.The conversation also touches on the role of Dubai duty-free as a significant channel for marketing and brand building. Sophie emphasizes the need for brands to have local presence and support to thrive in the Middle East market.Tune in to learn about the unique dynamics of the Gulf region's liquor market and how brands can successfully navigate this complex but rewarding environment.Key Highlights:Navigating the evolving liquor landscape in the Middle EastStrategic insights for small and medium-sized brands entering the marketThe unique role of Dubai duty-free in brand buildingEssential strategies for establishing local presence and supportTimestamps:00:00 - Introduction and Welcome00:30 - Guest Introduction: Sophie Cookson01:07 - The Liquor Industry in Dubai02:41 - Challenges and Opportunities for Small Brands04:24 - Legalities and Regulations in the UAE07:39 - Brand Building Strategies10:56 - The Role of Expats and Duty-Free15:10 - Supporting Bartenders and Craft Brands26:25 - Travel Retail Opportunities35:36 - Conclusion and Contact Information If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    092 | Scaling a City Cocktail Culture Through Middle-Tier Bars | Francois Monti, Amargueria

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2025 27:18


    In this episode, I talk to Francois Monti, a renowned Cocktail Writer. We discuss the global cocktail scene's uneven growth, from advanced cities boasting cutting-edge bars to emerging markets grappling with minimal training. While high-profile venues attract headlines, Francois argues that second-division bars drive consumer adoption of cocktails. He highlights the shortage of skilled bartenders, many lacking foundational taste education (e.g., wine and food flavor insights), leading to haphazard quality. Instead of focusing on big consumer-awareness pushes, Francois advocates strong trade relationships, mentorship, and recognition of diverse bartender career paths—even if that means contentedly staying in a single role long-term. Local bar culture flourishes by ensuring bartenders can refine their palate and technique at multiple levels of the industry, eventually benefiting both consumers and spirits brands.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:45 State of the Cocktail Industry03:36 Challenges in Cocktail Culture08:23 Training and Skill Development20:03 Mentorship and Industry Growth25:06 Conclusion and Farewell

    092 | Francois Monti | Scaling a City Cocktail Culture Through Middle-Tier Bars

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2025 28:55


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode, I talk to Francois Monti, a renowned Cocktail Writer. We discuss the global cocktail scene's uneven growth, from advanced cities boasting cutting-edge bars to emerging markets grappling with minimal training. While high-profile venues attract headlines, Francois argues that second-division bars drive consumer adoption of cocktails. He highlights the shortage of skilled bartenders, many lacking foundational taste education (e.g., wine and food flavor insights), leading to haphazard quality. Instead of focusing on big consumer-awareness pushes, Francois advocates strong trade relationships, mentorship, and recognition of diverse bartender career paths—even if that means contentedly staying in a single role long-term. Local bar culture flourishes by ensuring bartenders can refine their palate and technique at multiple levels of the industry, eventually benefiting both consumers and spirits brands.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:45 State of the Cocktail Industry03:36 Challenges in Cocktail Culture08:23 Training and Skill Development20:03 Mentorship and Industry Growth25:06 Conclusion and Farewell If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    091 | One Store at The Time: Converting Demand Through Sampling | Nick Guerrieri | Chelly, Modernized Limoncello

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 38:07


    In this episode, I spoke toNick Guerrieri, founder ofChelly, who shares how he crafted a modernized limoncello out of Arizona—a place few associate with classic Italian citrus liqueurs.By reducing sugar and viscosity, Chelly repositions limoncello from a narrow digestif to a spirit capable of starring in cocktails or being served neatly.Nick's strategy relies on grassroots sampling at liquor stores and festivals, weaving a genuine “behind-the-scenes” brand narrative on social media, and balancing on-trade listings with hands-on retail demos.Distinctive branding elements, like his signature lemon shirt and recipe lookbooks, help Chelly stand out.Over five years, Chelly has built momentum by focusing on direct consumer feedback, turning local pride in Arizona's citrus heritage into a marketing edge, and carefully expanding bar menu placements and off-trade distribution.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:29 Meet Nick Guerreri: The Limoncello Innovator01:21 Crafting a Modernized Limoncello02:05 Consumer Reactions and Market Penetration03:06 Marketing Strategies and Visual Branding06:42 On-Trade vs. Off-trade Sales Tactics14:22 Sampling and Direct Consumer Feedback22:45 The Importance of Small Wins and Persistence26:30 Final Thoughts and Farewell

    091 | Nick Guerrieri | One Store at The Time: Converting Demand Through Sampling with Chelly, Modernized Limoncello

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 39:43


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode, I spoke to Nick Guerrieri, founder of Chelly, who shares how he crafted a modernized limoncello out of Arizona—a place few associate with classic Italian citrus liqueurs.By reducing sugar and viscosity, Chelly repositions limoncello from a narrow digestif to a spirit capable of starring in cocktails or being served neatly.Nick's strategy relies on grassroots sampling at liquor stores and festivals, weaving a genuine “behind-the-scenes” brand narrative on social media, and balancing on-trade listings with hands-on retail demos.Distinctive branding elements, like his signature lemon shirt and recipe lookbooks, help Chelly stand out.Over five years, Chelly has built momentum by focusing on direct consumer feedback, turning local pride in Arizona's citrus heritage into a marketing edge, and carefully expanding bar menu placements and off-trade distribution.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:29 Meet Nick Guerrieri: The Limoncello Innovator01:21 Crafting a Modernized Limoncello02:05 Consumer Reactions and Market Penetration03:06 Marketing Strategies and Visual Branding06:42 On-Trade vs. Off-trade Sales Tactics14:22 Sampling and Direct Consumer Feedback22:45 The Importance of Small Wins and Persistence26:30 Final Thoughts and Farewell If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    090 | BCB2024 | Winning with Distributors: From Your Home Market to Export | Park Street University | Michael Vachon, Soren Hansen, Emily Pennington, Chris Maffeo

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2025 46:46


    This Episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast features a roundtable discussion from BCB Bar Convent Berlin 2024 hosted by Park Street University. Emily Pennington moderates a discussion on distribution strategies in the European market. Joined by guests Soren Hansen (Bemakers), Michael Vachon (Maverick Drinks), and Chris Maffeo (MAFFEO DRINKS), the conversation centers around the role of distributors in brand building and entry strategies for EU markets. Key topics include identifying the right distributors, pricing challenges, maximizing event activations, and focusing on sell-through rates. Listeners will gain invaluable insights into building a successful beverage brand in Europe, with practical advice on market research, brand involvement, and leveraging different sales channels. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview 00:32 Welcome to Park Street University Stage 01:13 Panelist Introductions 02:03 Understanding Distribution Strategies 04:31 Differences Between Importers, Distributors, and Brokers 08:19 Challenges in Pricing Across Markets 12:23 Market Observations and Trends 19:35 Finding the Right Distributor 22:24 Understanding Market Logistics 23:47 Building Brand Presence 24:42 Navigating Economic Challenges 26:35 Effective Market Entry Strategies 29:45 Timeline for Market Penetration 32:00 Leveraging Digital and Omni-Channel Strategies 35:40 Event Activation Best Practices 42:36 Direct-to-Consumer Models 43:49 Key Takeaways for Distribution Relationships 46:04 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    090 | BCB2024 | Winning with Distributors: From Your Home Market to Export | Park Street University | Michael Vachon, Soren Hansen, Emily Pennington, Chris Maffeo

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2025 48:22


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com This Episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast features a roundtable discussion from BCB Bar Convent Berlin 2024 hosted by Park Street University. Emily Pennington moderates a discussion on distribution strategies in the European market. Joined by guests Soren Hansen (Bemakers), Michael Vachon (Maverick Drinks), and Chris Maffeo (MAFFEO DRINKS), the conversation centers around the role of distributors in brand building and entry strategies for EU markets. Key topics include identifying the right distributors, pricing challenges, maximizing event activations, and focusing on sell-through rates. Listeners will gain invaluable insights into building a successful beverage brand in Europe, with practical advice on market research, brand involvement, and leveraging different sales channels. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview 00:32 Welcome to Park Street University Stage 01:13 Panelist Introductions 02:03 Understanding Distribution Strategies 04:31 Differences Between Importers, Distributors, and Brokers 08:19 Challenges in Pricing Across Markets 12:23 Market Observations and Trends 19:35 Finding the Right Distributor 22:24 Understanding Market Logistics 23:47 Building Brand Presence 24:42 Navigating Economic Challenges 26:35 Effective Market Entry Strategies 29:45 Timeline for Market Penetration 32:00 Leveraging Digital and Omni-Channel Strategies 35:40 Event Activation Best Practices 42:36 Direct-to-Consumer Models 43:49 Key Takeaways for Distribution Relationships 46:04 Conclusion and Final Thoughts If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    089 | Bridging Tequila & Scotch Occasions | Michael Ballantyne | Storywood Tequila

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2025 36:15


    In this episode, host Chris Maffeo speaks to Michael Ballantyne, founder of Storywood, who joins the Maffeo Drinks Podcast to reveal how he created the first single malt whisky barrel–aged tequila—a bold step intended to convert whisky aficionados into agave enthusiasts. By deliberately pivoting from tequila-focused venues to whisky bars and events like the Glasgow Whisky Show, he discovered a more receptive audience who understood the language of oak, toast, and char. While stoking consumer curiosity with a cask-forward narrative, Michael stresses the importance of selective distribution, building momentum in key markets before spreading too thin. He explains how a multi-SKU strategy caters to varied palates—from lighter, cocktail-friendly expressions to richer, extended-aged variants—yet unifies under the “tequila meets scotch” identity. Throughout his journey, Michael has worked bottom-up—sampling events, personal brand ambassador work, and direct outreach—to forge loyal trade and consumer relationships. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview 00:29 Guest Introduction and Product Overview 00:50 The Story Behind Storywood Tequila 03:47 Challenges and Strategies in the Tequila Market 07:37 Innovative Marketing and Consumer Engagement 18:17 Global Market Expansion and Distribution 22:28 Personal Reflections and Advice for Entrepreneurs 28:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    089 | Michael Ballantyne | Bridging Tequila & Scotch Occasions with Storywood Tequila

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2025 37:51


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode, host Chris Maffeo speaks to Michael Ballantyne, founder of Storywood, who joins the Maffeo Drinks Podcast to reveal how he created the first single malt whisky barrel–aged tequila—a bold step intended to convert whisky aficionados into agave enthusiasts. By deliberately pivoting from tequila-focused venues to whisky bars and events like the Glasgow Whisky Show, he discovered a more receptive audience who understood the language of oak, toast, and char. While stoking consumer curiosity with a cask-forward narrative, Michael stresses the importance of selective distribution, building momentum in key markets before spreading too thin. He explains how a multi-SKU strategy caters to varied palates—from lighter, cocktail-friendly expressions to richer, extended-aged variants—yet unifies under the “tequila meets scotch” identity. Throughout his journey, Michael has worked bottom-up—sampling events, personal brand ambassador work, and direct outreach—to forge loyal trade and consumer relationships.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:29 Guest Introduction and Product Overview00:50 The Story Behind Storywood Tequila03:47 Challenges and Strategies in the Tequila Market07:37 Innovative Marketing and Consumer Engagement18:17 Global Market Expansion and Distribution22:28 Personal Reflections and Advice for Entrepreneurs28:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    088 | Bringing Luxury to The American Whiskey Category | Andrew Borenzweig | The Beverly High Rye

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2025 32:30


    In this episode, host Chris Maffeo talks to Andrew Borenzweig, founder of Beverly High Rye, who shares his journey of creating a modern, luxury-focused American whiskey that breaks away from traditional frontier or rustic imagery. Inspired by the elegance of Beverly Hills, Andrew crafted a whiskey that blends rye's bold spice with bourbon's smoothness, presented in sleek, decanter-style bottles. He initially concentrated on securing placements in prestigious California venues—such as Nobu, Mastro's, Cipriani, and the Beverly Wilshire Four Seasons—to build brand credibility and visibility. This strategic on-trade focus laid a strong foundation before carefully expanding into off-trade channels like select Pavilions stores. Throughout the episode, Andrew emphasizes the importance of brand authenticity, founder-led advocacy, and a California-centric rollout as key drivers of Beverly High Rye's success. Additionally, he touches on leveraging top on-trade outlet groups to facilitate potential international expansion, referencing Nobu Tokyo's interest in the brand. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview 00:29 Guest Introduction: Andrew Bornenzweig 00:58 The Inspiration Behind Beverly High Rye 02:30 Marketing and Brand Positioning 06:44 Expanding to New Markets 11:05 Product Portfolio and Collaborations 17:21 On-Trade vs. Off-Trade Strategies 24:50 Final Thoughts and Advice for Brand Owners

    088 | Andrew Borenzweig | Bringing Luxury to The American Whiskey Category with The Beverly High Rye

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2025 34:07


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode, host Chris Maffeo talks to Andrew Borenzweig, founder of Beverly High Rye, who shares his journey of creating a modern, luxury-focused American whiskey that breaks away from traditional frontier or rustic imagery. Inspired by the elegance of Beverly Hills, Andrew crafted a whiskey that blends rye's bold spice with bourbon's smoothness, presented in sleek, decanter-style bottles. He initially concentrated on securing placements in prestigious California venues—such as Nobu, Mastro's, Cipriani, and the Beverly Wilshire Four Seasons—to build brand credibility and visibility. This strategic on-trade focus laid a strong foundation before carefully expanding into off-trade channels like select Pavilions stores. Throughout the episode, Andrew emphasizes the importance of brand authenticity, founder-led advocacy, and a California-centric rollout as key drivers of Beverly High Rye's success. Additionally, he touches on leveraging top on-trade outlet groups to facilitate potential international expansion, referencing Nobu Tokyo's interest in the brand. Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview00:29 Guest Introduction: Andrew Bornenzweig00:58 The Inspiration Behind Beverly High Rye02:30 Marketing and Brand Positioning06:44 Expanding to New Markets11:05 Product Portfolio and Collaborations17:21 On-Trade vs. Off-Trade Strategies24:50 Final Thoughts and Advice for Brand Owners If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    087 | Imme Ermgassen | Beyond Moderation with Botivo: Building a Pleasure-First Non-Alcoholic Brand

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2025 41:17


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode, host Chris Maffeo is joined by Imme Ermgassen from Botivo, who shares insights into building a craft non-alcoholic aperitivo brand that challenges category conventions. Through strategic positioning as a pleasure brand rather than a moderation brand, Botivo has created a unique space in the non-alcoholic category by focusing on craft credentials, hedonistic brand values, and owning specific drinking occasions. The conversation reveals how careful brand building and trade strategy can help create new category opportunities.Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Welcome00:29 Guest Introduction and Initial Impressions01:22 Deep Dive into Botivo02:16 Brand Philosophy and Market Positioning05:37 Challenges and Strategies in the Non-Alcoholic Market11:35 Consumer Insights and Brand Building19:31 Trade Relationships and Distribution38:04 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    087 | Beyond Moderation: Building a Pleasure-First Non-Alcoholic Brand | Imme Ermgassen | Botivo

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2025 40:13


    In this episode, host Chris Maffeo is joined by Imme Ermgassen from Botivo, who shares insights into building a craft non-alcoholic aperitivo brand that challenges category conventions. Through strategic positioning as a pleasure brand rather than a moderation brand, Botivo has created a unique space in the non-alcoholic category by focusing on craft credentials, hedonistic brand values, and owning specific drinking occasions. The conversation reveals how careful brand building and trade strategy can help create new category opportunities. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:29 Guest Introduction and Initial Impressions 01:22 Deep Dive into Botivo 02:16 Brand Philosophy and Market Positioning 05:37 Challenges and Strategies in the Non-Alcoholic Market 11:35 Consumer Insights and Brand Building 19:31 Trade Relationships and Distribution 38:04 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans

    086 | Andrew Friedman | Community Education in Bartending | Industry Spirits, Seattle WA

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2024 36:39


    In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, I continue the conversation with Andrew Friedman, an ex-bar Owner (Liberty, Seattle, WA) and the brand builder behind Industry Spirits. Andrew shares his journey from bar owner to brand owner, highlighting the importance of community, education, and strategic planning in the drinks industry. The discussion delves into the challenges and rewards of creating a bartender-owned brand, the nuances of marketing and sales strategies, and the decision-making process behind scaling a business organically versus aiming for a large-scale buyout. This episode, which includes anecdotes about industry dynamics and practical advice for aspiring brand creators, underscores the value of thoughtful growth and collaborative success in the beverage industry. Time Stamps 00:00 Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast 00:26 The Value of Listener Feedback 01:37 Training and Collaboration in the Bar Industry 03:16 Challenges and Realities of Brand Promotion 05:44 From Bar Owner to Brand Owner 07:56 Building a Bartender-Owned Brand 09:09 Strategies for Brand Relevance 27:59 The Importance of Legacy and Scale 35:26 Wrapping Up and Contact Information About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Andrew Friedman

    086 | Andrew Friedman | Community Education in Bartending | Industry Spirits, Seattle WA

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2024 37:37


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, I continue the conversation with Andrew Friedman, an ex-bar Owner (Liberty, Seattle, WA) and the brand builder behind Industry Spirits. Andrew shares his journey from bar owner to brand owner, highlighting the importance of community, education, and strategic planning in the drinks industry. The discussion delves into the challenges and rewards of creating a bartender-owned brand, the nuances of marketing and sales strategies, and the decision-making process behind scaling a business organically versus aiming for a large-scale buyout. This episode, which includes anecdotes about industry dynamics and practical advice for aspiring brand creators, underscores the value of thoughtful growth and collaborative success in the beverage industry.Time Stamps00:00 Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast00:26 The Value of Listener Feedback01:37 Training and Collaboration in the Bar Industry03:16 Challenges and Realities of Brand Promotion05:44 From Bar Owner to Brand Owner07:56 Building a Bartender-Owned Brand09:09 Strategies for Brand Relevance27:59 The Importance of Legacy and Scale35:26 Wrapping Up and Contact InformationAbout The Host: Chris MaffeoAbout The Guest: Andrew Friedman If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    085 | Andrew Friedman | Customer-First vs. Bartender-First Bars | Industry Spirits, Seattle WA

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2024 30:42


    Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast! In this episode, I'm joined by Andrew Friedman, renowned bartender and ex-bar owner (Liberty, Seattle, WA) and the Founder of Industry Spirits, a Bartender-Owned Brand. We explore the history and evolution of Seattle's cocktail scene, emphasizing the importance of customer service and the changing landscape of the bar industry. Andrew shares his journey, insights into bar culture, and the challenges bartenders face as they transition to roles like brand ambassadors. Whether you're a bar enthusiast or an industry professional, this episode offers a fascinating look into the dynamics of bar life and the dedication required to succeed. Time Stamps 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:27 Guest Introduction: Andrew Friedman 02:50 Andrew's Journey in the Drinks Industry 04:29 The Seattle Cocktail Scene 07:23 The Evolution of Bartending 11:10 Balancing Stardom and Service 16:42 Career Reflections and Industry Insights 26:36 The Future of the Drinks Industry 32:16 Closing Remarks About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Andrew Friedman

    085 | Andrew Friedman | Customer-First vs. Bartender-First Bars | Industry Spirits, Seattle WA

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2024 31:39


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast! In this episode, I'm joined by Andrew Friedman, renowned bartender and ex-bar owner (Liberty, Seattle, WA) and the Founder of Industry Spirits, a Bartender-Owned Brand. We explore the history and evolution of Seattle's cocktail scene, emphasizing the importance of customer service and the changing landscape of the bar industry. Andrew shares his journey, insights into bar culture, and the challenges bartenders face as they transition to roles like brand ambassadors. Whether you're a bar enthusiast or an industry professional, this episode offers a fascinating look into the dynamics of bar life and the dedication required to succeed. Time Stamps 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:27 Guest Introduction: Andrew Friedman 02:50 Andrew's Journey in the Drinks Industry 04:29 The Seattle Cocktail Scene 07:23 The Evolution of Bartending 11:10 Balancing Stardom and Service 16:42 Career Reflections and Industry Insights 26:36 The Future of the Drinks Industry 32:16 Closing Remarks About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Andrew Friedman If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    084 | Billy Abbott | Blends, Single Malts & Old vs. New Ways of Drinking Whisk(e)y | The Whisky Exchange

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2024 36:09


    In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, I discuss the evolution of the whisk(e)y industry over the past 15 years with guest Billy Abbott. We delve into the global expansion of whiskey production, the increasing consumer interest in niche markets, and the role of cocktails and serves in modern whiskey consumption. Billy shares insights on how new expressions and innovations are shaping the industry while they also explore the significance of brand identity and consumer engagement. The conversation highlights the changes in whisk(e)y production, marketing, and consumer preferences, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in whisk(e)y. 00:00 Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast 00:28 Diving into the World of Drinks Brands 00:54 The Evolution of Whiskey 01:49 Whiskey Trends and Market Changes 04:27 Exclusive Bottlings and Store Picks 09:48 Consumer Preferences and Market Expansion 19:25 Whiskey in Cocktails and Occasions 22:43 Brand Identity and Marketing Strategies 33:12 Wrapping Up and How to Connect About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Billy Abbott

    084 | Billy Abbott | Blends, Single Malts & Old vs. New Ways of Drinking Whisk(e)y | The Whisky Exchange

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2024 37:07


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, I discuss the evolution of the whisk(e)y industry over the past 15 years with guest Billy Abbott. We delve into the global expansion of whiskey production, the increasing consumer interest in niche markets, and the role of cocktails and serves in modern whiskey consumption. Billy shares insights on how new expressions and innovations are shaping the industry while they also explore the significance of brand identity and consumer engagement. The conversation highlights the changes in whisk(e)y production, marketing, and consumer preferences, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in whisk(e)y. 00:00 Welcome to the Maffeo Drinks Podcast 00:28 Diving into the World of Drinks Brands 00:54 The Evolution of Whiskey 01:49 Whiskey Trends and Market Changes 04:27 Exclusive Bottlings and Store Picks 09:48 Consumer Preferences and Market Expansion 19:25 Whiskey in Cocktails and Occasions 22:43 Brand Identity and Marketing Strategies 33:12 Wrapping Up and How to Connect About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Billy Abbott If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    083 | Billy Abbott | Helping People Navigate The Whisk(e)y Shelf | The Whisky Exchange

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2024 42:41


    In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, I sit down with Billy Abbott, Ambassador for The Whiskey Exchange. We discuss the importance of internal and external education in the drinks industry, the journey from programming to whiskey, and the dynamics between liquid-first and brand-first approaches in spirits marketing. Billy also shares insights on gauging consumer preferences and touches on the diverse pathways individuals can take within the spirits industry. Tune in to learn about navigating brand storytelling, consumer communication, and the vital role of education in building successful drinks brands. 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:28 Guest Introduction: Billy's Journey 02:03 Diving into the Drinks Industry 03:40 The Role of Education in the Drinks World 05:39 Balancing Brand and Liquid in Marketing 10:00 Understanding Consumer Preferences 12:25 Navigating the Whiskey World 17:38 Exploring Cross-Category Connections 22:02 Balancing Budget and Spirit Selection 23:09 Understanding Consumer Preferences 24:34 The Complexity of Target Consumers 26:07 Marketing Strategies in the Spirits Industry 30:03 Training and Knowledge Sharing 37:01 Career Growth and Personal Development 42:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Billy Abbott

    083 | Billy Abbott | Helping People Navigate The Whisk(e)y Shelf | The Whisky Exchange

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2024 43:39


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, I sit down with Billy Abbott, Ambassador for The Whiskey Exchange. We discuss the importance of internal and external education in the drinks industry, the journey from programming to whiskey, and the dynamics between liquid-first and brand-first approaches in spirits marketing. Billy also shares insights on gauging consumer preferences and touches on the diverse pathways individuals can take within the spirits industry. Tune in to learn about navigating brand storytelling, consumer communication, and the vital role of education in building successful drinks brands. 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:28 Guest Introduction: Billy's Journey 02:03 Diving into the Drinks Industry 03:40 The Role of Education in the Drinks World 05:39 Balancing Brand and Liquid in Marketing 10:00 Understanding Consumer Preferences 12:25 Navigating the Whiskey World 17:38 Exploring Cross-Category Connections 22:02 Balancing Budget and Spirit Selection 23:09 Understanding Consumer Preferences 24:34 The Complexity of Target Consumers 26:07 Marketing Strategies in the Spirits Industry 30:03 Training and Knowledge Sharing 37:01 Career Growth and Personal Development 42:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Billy Abbott If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    082 | Alice Bidini | Bringing Non-Alc Cocktail Culture to Saudi Arabia | Four Seasons Riyadh

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2024 25:48


    In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, we dive into the complexities and innovations within the non-alcoholic beverage industry. Joined by guest Alice Bidini, we explore the challenges and strategies of introducing new drink trends in emerging markets such as Saudi Arabia. We discuss the importance of understanding local taste profiles and consumer behavior, especially in culturally diverse regions like Stockholm and Riyadh. Highlights include our experiences in the evolving bar scene, the innovative concept of a female-only staffed bar at the Four Seasons in Riyadh, and the cultural shift needed to accept new beverage trends. Alice shares her journey of pioneering drink trends, shedding light on building consumer trust and adapting to local preferences. Tune in to learn about reshaping traditional beverage offerings and the satisfaction of turning hesitant consumers into loyal patrons. 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:28 Managing Expectations in the Bar Industry 03:44 The Bar Scene in Saudi Arabia 06:45 Challenges of Non-Alcoholic Spirits 10:53 Consumer Behavior and Marketing 13:28 Dining and Drinking Culture in Saudi Arabia 15:03 Creating a New Beverage Culture 15:25 The Italian Espresso Bar Experience in Stockholm 17:28 Introducing Aperol Spritz in Prague 18:39 Navigating Local Drinking Cultures 19:37 The Role of Experts in Riyadh's Cocktail Scene 22:00 Trends in the Bar Industry 23:36 Closing Thoughts and Future Plans About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Alice Bidini

    082 | Alice Bidini | Bringing Non-Alc Cocktail Culture to Saudi Arabia | Four Seasons Riyadh

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2024 26:45


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, we dive into the complexities and innovations within the non-alcoholic beverage industry. Joined by guest Alice Bidini, we explore the challenges and strategies of introducing new drink trends in emerging markets such as Saudi Arabia. We discuss the importance of understanding local taste profiles and consumer behavior, especially in culturally diverse regions like Stockholm and Riyadh. Highlights include our experiences in the evolving bar scene, the innovative concept of a female-only staffed bar at the Four Seasons in Riyadh, and the cultural shift needed to accept new beverage trends. Alice shares her journey of pioneering drink trends, shedding light on building consumer trust and adapting to local preferences. Tune in to learn about reshaping traditional beverage offerings and the satisfaction of turning hesitant consumers into loyal patrons. 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:28 Managing Expectations in the Bar Industry 03:44 The Bar Scene in Saudi Arabia 06:45 Challenges of Non-Alcoholic Spirits 10:53 Consumer Behavior and Marketing 13:28 Dining and Drinking Culture in Saudi Arabia 15:03 Creating a New Beverage Culture 15:25 The Italian Espresso Bar Experience in Stockholm 17:28 Introducing Aperol Spritz in Prague 18:39 Navigating Local Drinking Cultures 19:37 The Role of Experts in Riyadh's Cocktail Scene 22:00 Trends in the Bar Industry 23:36 Closing Thoughts and Future Plans About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Alice Bidini If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

    081 | Alice Bidini | Negronis Are Not For Everyone | Four Seasons Riyadh

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2024 29:17


    In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, I am joined by Alice Bidini, an experienced bartender and bar manager from the Four Seasons Hotel in Riyadh. Alice shares her journey from Rome to London, Kuala Lumpur, and now Ryadh. We dive into the unique beverage preferences in different countries and the challenges of introducing new drink concepts, especially in a non-alcoholic market like Saudi Arabia. We discuss how cultural and religious influences shape drinking habits in Malaysia and Saudi Arabia and how London's diverse landscape impacts its vibrant bar scene. Our conversation also explores the global adaptation of Italian cuisine and drinks, from 'Nduja pizza to Negroni cocktails, and the efforts to balance authenticity and local tastes. Tune in to learn about the cultural nuances shaping global palates and the innovative ways bartenders are rising to these challenges. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:28 Guest Introduction: Alice's Journey 03:13 Cultural Insights and Market Differences 07:56 Exploring Taste Profiles Across Regions 11:29 The Melting Pot of London 13:20 Understanding Dry and Wet Cultures 14:04 Regional Drinking Preferences 15:09 Peroni's Popularity in the UK 17:53 Challenges of Non-Alcoholic Bartending in Saudi Arabia 21:42 Adapting to Local Tastes 28:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Alice Bidini

    081 | Alice Bidini | Negronis Are Not For Everyone | Four Seasons Riyadh

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2024 30:15


    Episode Deep-Dive Analysis Available at maffeodrinks.com In this episode of the Maffeo Drinks Podcast, I am joined by Alice Bidini, an experienced bartender and bar manager from the Four Seasons Hotel in Riyadh. Alice shares her journey from Rome to London, Kuala Lumpur, and now Ryadh. We dive into the unique beverage preferences in different countries and the challenges of introducing new drink concepts, especially in a non-alcoholic market like Saudi Arabia. We discuss how cultural and religious influences shape drinking habits in Malaysia and Saudi Arabia and how London's diverse landscape impacts its vibrant bar scene. Our conversation also explores the global adaptation of Italian cuisine and drinks, from 'Nduja pizza to Negroni cocktails, and the efforts to balance authenticity and local tastes. Tune in to learn about the cultural nuances shaping global palates and the innovative ways bartenders are rising to these challenges. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:28 Guest Introduction: Alice's Journey 03:13 Cultural Insights and Market Differences 07:56 Exploring Taste Profiles Across Regions 11:29 The Melting Pot of London 13:20 Understanding Dry and Wet Cultures 14:04 Regional Drinking Preferences 15:09 Peroni's Popularity in the UK 17:53 Challenges of Non-Alcoholic Bartending in Saudi Arabia 21:42 Adapting to Local Tastes 28:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts About The Host: Chris Maffeo About The Guest: Alice Bidini If what we discussed hits home and you want support from us, get in touch at bottomup@maffeodrinks.com or check maffeodrinks.com for the key insights from this episode.

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