Podcast appearances and mentions of Chris Hansen

On this episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, Chris is joined by British historian and author of Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York, Andrew Lownie to dissect the relationship between ex-Prince Andrew, Sarah Ferguson and Jeffery Epstein and what it means for the future of the Royal Family.  Other high-profile names with ties to the monarch surround Epstein and his crimes, but Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor was a documented fixture on Epstein and Maxwell's scenes; what does he know, what did he witness, what did he partake in?  Entitled: The Rise and Fall of the House of York Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thirty-year-old Jesus Valverde Texta was arrested on October 23 in Genesee County, Michigan, after allegedly attempting to meet a 15-year-old girl following a sexually explicit online exchange. The arrest stemmed from a GHOST Team investigation that took an unexpected turn—Texta arrived at the meeting location while Chris was still interviewing another alleged predator.  Hear the full breakdown of the chaotic scene and listen as Chris methodically dismantles Texta's account during the intense confrontation that followed. Sponsored by: Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty  TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Escalante's weekly snorkel into the business end of showbiz. This week: the latest from the Box Office: GOAT takes the #1 spot, knocking Wuthering Heights out of the top spot. Joe goes deep into one of his favorite movies of the year: Nirvana: The Band - The Show - The Movie... This topic sheds light on a whole bunch of fair use legal issues... Let's start with the fact that this band has nothing to do with the legendary 90's band Nirvana... Hilarity and hijinks ensue! And the latest edition of Celebs Behaving Badly features Shia Lebeouf... (Leboef? Leboof?? whatever), as well as the latest from the Timothy Busfield sexual misconduct case. Did he get scammed? Chris Hansen, of To Catch a Predator fame, doesn't think so... And Live Nation could get sanctioned for running a live show ticket monopoly. Joe throws in his two cents... And OpenAI got a preliminary injunction for using the word "Cameo"... not because of the band Cameo, but because of the Cameo app... Joe flexes his legal muscle, digging into the details of the case. Because that's what Joe Escalante does. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

*This episode contains sensitive material and talk of suicide, audience discretion is advised* In this heartbreaking, shocking and emotionally raw episode of Have a Seat, Chris Hansen talks with Jason Sokolowski, a Canadian father whose daughter died by suicide in 2025 after being groomed by someone she met on Roblox and was messaging with on Discord. Penelope was just 16-years-old when someone going by the screen name “Culprit”, a member of the vicious online group 764, encouraged her to commit heinous acts, self harm and eventually to take her own life.  Today, Penelope's father Jason speaks out about what he went through in the hopes to educate parents and adults on 764, the online group that prey upon our children to commit horrendous acts of self-harm and violence against themselves and others.      If you are in crisis, please call, text or chat with the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline at 988, or contact the Crisis Text Line by texting TALK  to 741741 Photo CreditInstagram - Jason Sokołowski Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Eric Lee is an alleged predator that was caught in a Blount County, Alabama investigation.  At the time of the sting, Lee had been living in or around Centerpoint, Alabama with his mother. He worked as a mechanic at a car dealership.  Lee had been communicating with a decoy posing as the aunt to a fifteen-year-old girl. He asked the decoy for a picture of her face or body. The aunt told Lee that her niece's age was fifteen, to which Lee stated, "That's cool. Fifteen's my fantasy." The decoy asked Lee if he would have sex with the girl, with Lee replying, "Yeah, I'm gonna fuck her good. I've got some good dick." He also asked if he could "eat some ass." He offered to bring marijuana to the house to give to the minor girl. Lee agreed to the proposition of having sex with the minor girl for $200. Lee arrived to the sting house and was greeted by the two decoys at the door. After they exited, Lee said to himself, "Oh, I forgot the condoms in the car." Chris then emerged to confront him. Sponsored by: Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators  Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

February 13, 2026 ~ Chris Hansen, creator and host of NBC's To Catch A Predator, cofounder of TruBlu Streaming Crime Network and host of investigative series 'Takedown With Chris Hansen', and podcasts 'Predators I've Caught' and 'Have a Seat With Chris Hansen' joins Kevin and Marie to talk about the Oakland County Child Killer. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On this episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, Chris is joined by true crime YouTuber Paul White, aka JumpsuitPablo, to dive into the heinous crimes committed by Wade Wilson, the Dead Pool Killer.  Currently the focus of the new Paramount+ series, Handsome Devil: Charming Killer, Hansen and White explore how the Florida man went from murderer to viral heartthrob, amassing a harem of “Wade Wives” and thousands of dollars raised for him, all while sitting on death row.  Video & Photos Provided By Paramount+ @jumpsuitpablo @phonecallsfromprison Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Watch all of our Epstein videos here:    • Epstein  TV legend Chris Hansen joins Shaun Attwood as we tear into the newly dropped Epstein files—documents already shaking powerful names and raising disturbing new questions. Then we dive into the online dangers to our kids with the Roblox game.. Chris goes into what parents need to know. What do these files actually reveal?Who's mentioned, who's protected, and what still isn't adding up?Why is this game so easy to get to our kids? What can be done to protect them. No spin. No filters. Just a raw, hard-hitting true-crime livestream breaking down what the mainstream won't touch—and why this release matters right now.⚠️ Viewer discretion advised. This conversation goes where others won't.

“Would it be cool if I spent the night? You can say no.” In this episode of Predators I've Caught, Chris breaks down the chilling sting that led to the arrest of Milan Miko, a 25-year-old culinary student caught attempting to meet a minor for illegal sex. Working alongside the Genesee County Sheriff's team, Chris reveals how Miko allegedly left his girlfriend's family dinner to pursue the meetup—after sending explicit messages to a decoy posing as a 15-year-old. Chris also examines what may drive this kind of behavior, from compulsive pornography use to the need for control, and why understanding predator psychology is essential to protecting kids online.  Sponsored by: OneSkin: Get up to 15% off OneSkin with the code HANSEN at https://www.oneskin.co/HANSEN #oneskinpod  AirDoctor: Breathe cleaner air every day with AirDoctor—get up to $300 off at https://AirDoctorPro.com using promo code HANSEN  TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and todiscover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After becoming paralyzed and living life in wheelchair, everyday places stopped being simple locations and became decisions. Stairs, curbs, restaurant layouts, parking lots, door widths, and table heights are no longer background details- they are constant calculations.  In this deeply personal episode, host Chris Hansen shares two true stories that changed how he understands friendship, belonging, and love:  A friend who quietly built a wheelchair ramp just so Chris could visit his home Another friend who literally tore a doorway down to the studs to make sure Chris could access a bathroom These weren't just acts of kindness.  They removed uncertainty.  Chris discusses how many people don't exclude others intentionally, but how hesitation, silence, and inconvenience can still create distance. He also shares a difficult realization: he has lost important relationships not because of limitations, but because he failed to give people reassurance.  The lesson becomes clear:  People don't just need access.  They need to know they matter.  If you've ever wondered where you stand with someone... If you've ever felt left out... If you've struggled to say what you feel... This episode is for you.  Winning... While Losing is a podcast about personal growth, relationships, resilience, and finding meaning after loss. It is not about avoiding hardship - it is about discovering what actually matters because of it. 

Glenn looks at the ideological collapse of transgenderism in children, which appears to have been started by one singular lawsuit where a woman was awarded a settlement after receiving gender-affirming care as a minor. Is America finally coming to its senses? Glenn speaks with investigative journalist Chris Hansen to discuss how he's teamed up with ICE agents to help combat child predators. Glenn brings back the author of ‘The Next Big Crash,' Justin Haskins, to discuss a man called William Dentzer and why you should be aware of who he is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Glenn looks at the ideological collapse of transgenderism in children, which appears to have been started by one singular lawsuit where a woman was awarded a settlement after receiving gender-affirming care as a minor. Is America finally coming to its senses? Glenn lists off everything that requires an ID to participate in, so why does the left treat voter ID like it's Jim Crow? Glenn urges Congress to pass the SAVE Act, or else America will forever suffer the consequences. Glenn announces a Torch event taking place at Ellis Island in New York to celebrate and honor the beauty of American immigration. Glenn speaks with investigative journalist Chris Hansen to discuss how he's teamed up with ICE agents to help combat child predators. Glenn dives further into his upcoming event at Ellis Island and what attendees can expect. Glenn brings back the author of ‘The Next Big Crash,' Justin Haskins, to further break down the state of the economy and what a significant economic crash will look like. Glenn and Justin also discuss a man called William Dentzer and why you should be aware of who he is. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have a Seat with Chris Hansen continues its coverage and conversation surrounding the gaming platform Roblox and the controversy of their questionable security measures.  On this episode, Chris Hansen is joined by Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti who is joining his AG colleagues and filed a lawsuit against the company ‘alleging that they lure children into an environment it knows is dangerous but promises is safe, in violation of the Tennessee Consumer Protection Act (TCPA)”.  Hansen and Skrmetti discuss how parents are being mislead into believing the platform is safe for children and how it should be a red flag that Roblox won't let law enforcement on the platform to investigate criminal activity and complaints. If you've been following the Roblox headlines, it's another episode of Have a Seat you won't want to miss.  OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code HANSEN at https://www.oneskin.co/HANSEN #oneskinpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gary & Shannon talk about Gary’s fear of social media and why nothing ever truly disappears once it’s posted. They dive into #SWAMPWATCH, covering Mitch McConnell, new scrutiny around Bill and Melinda Gates, and the sentencing of attempted assassin Ryan Routh. The hour continues with frustration over the lack of clear information in the Guthrie case, Gary’s blunt reaction to the fallout involving former Bachelor host Chris Hansen, and a parenting conversation with Justin Worsham about unconditional love and the troubling rise of teens using dating apps.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For almost two decades rumors have swirled about Blood on the Dance Floor frontman Dahvie Vanity. In this episode, Kendra and Rich discuss the rumors and allegations that have swirled around Blood on the Dance Floor frontman Dahvie Vanity. They dive into the history of the band, its teenage fan base, and how the social media surge allowed for ease of access to those fans. They discuss many of the 21 public allegations against Vanity, including an investigation by To Catch A Predator's Chris Hansen.enough. is a podcast centering on surviving abuse, harassment, and assault in the music scene. To help spread the word, please like and subscribe and share with your friends. In 2026, we're looking to speak with anyone who has a story to share about their experience with the darker side of the music scene. From avid show-goers to bookers to band members, we've all seen something. If you feel ready to share your story, we'd love to hear from you. Find us on Instagram at enough.podcast, or email us at thisisenoughpodcast@gmail.com.REFERENCES:Dahvie Vanity Raped A Child. Police Gave Him A Warning. Now 21 Women Accuse Him Of Sexual Assault (Huffington Post)Are there any ongoing investigations into Dahvie Vanity's alleged pedophilia? (factually)Blood on the Dance Floor's Dahvie Vanity Accused of Sexually Assaulting Multiple Women, Many While They Were Underage (Metal Sucks)Scene Singer Dahvie Vanity Is A Rapist Who Preys On Minors, A Dozen Women Say (Huffington Post)Chris Hansen - Dahvie Vanity Investigation (YouTube)

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On this urgent, special episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, Chris is joined by Eva Yan, mother of Thomas Medlin who's been missing since January 9th.  15-year-old Thomas of Long Island was seen on CCTV footage at Grand Central Station at 5:30p that same day, his cell phone was later found in lower Manhattan. The Suffolk Police Department believes that Thomas went into the city to meet someone he had been communicating with on the gaming platform Roblox, which according to his mother, is completely out of character for the intelligent and talented teen. Chris and Eva urge everyone to be on the lookout for Thomas, share his photo across social media, and contact the Suffolk Police Department if you have any information.  https://suffolkpd.org/Suffolk Police Department Fourth Squad Detective 631-854-8452 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this special episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, Chris and his former lead security officer Ron Knight take a trip down memory lane and reflect back on their years of catching potential predators together. From memorable men such as Rabbi David Kaye to John Kennelly, and the massive investigation in Riverside County, CA, Hansen has brought Knight ‘out of retirement' to reveal to fans what happened behind the scenes and when cameras weren't rolling.   OneSkin: Get up to 30% off OneSkin with the code HANSEN at ⁠https://www.oneskin.co/HANSEN⁠#oneskinpod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Come on, man! I didn't see the text!” Daryl Rudick is an alleged predator caught in a Blount County, Alabama investigation.  Rudick began communicating with a decoy posing as a fifteen-year-old girl. Before the decoy revealed her age, Rudick requested "just sex" in exchange for a $100 donation.  When Rudick arrived to the sting house, he talked with the decoy about her Northern accent. He had her say the word "oil" to note the differences between her accent and his. They also talked about Ohio State football, since the decoy said she was from Ohio, wherein Rudick claimed to a bored decoy that Ohio State could not beat Michigan that year. He was right. Chris then emerged asking what his accent sounded like. And the interrogation was on. Sponsored by: TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kentucky Attorney General Russel Coleman joins Chris Hansen on this episode of Have a Seat to discuss his recent lawsuit against the gaming platform Roblox. AG Coleman joins his colleagues in such states as Florida, Louisiana and Tennessee in the fight to make Roblox safe against on-line child predators. AG Coleman calls Roblox a playground for criminals to have access to kids and that could lead to grooming and child exploitation. He also provides valuable advice for parents when there's zero margin or error when it comes to allowing your children on the gaming site.     Photo/Video Credits: @RealSchlep Attorney General Russell Coleman https://www.ag.ky.gov/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

To Catch a Predator with Chris Hansen was an iconic television show that pulled the curtain back on internet sexual predators. “Why don't you have a seat?” was the sentence that made pedophiles across the country shit their pants. But before they made it to the sting operation, someone had to lurk around Yahoo and AOL chat rooms pretending to be a minor. Jill Lingen was one of those keyboard warriors who exposed pedophiles in the mid-aughts. We talk about how she got these guys, the toll it took on her, and why we think people are obsessed with the Epstein files instead of pedos in their own communities. Oh, and Billy debriefs his trip to Los Angeles including several failed attempts at of-age fellatio.Mentioned:Threads: Jill's AMA threadWikipedia: To Catch a PredatorCBS News: Pardoned Jan. 6 rioter to face criminal trial for child molestationPerverted JusticeFollow Jill Lingen!Threads: @jillvictoriaDonate @ https://buymeacoffee.com/jillvictoriaFollow Billy!Instagram: @billyprocidajrTikTok: @TheBillyProcidaThreads: @billyprocidajrBlueSky: @thebillyprocidaMoney StuffVenmo: @BillyProcidaCash App: $manwhorepodPayPal/Zelle: funnybillypro@gmail.comBecome an Official Fanwhore on Patreon at http://patreon.com/manwhorepodcastGet your books and e-books through an independent bookstore at http://manwhorepod.com/bookshopDiscuss this week's episode in The Champagne Room at http://manwhorepod.com/discordEmail your comments, questions, and criticisms to manwhorepod@gmail.com.Late Night Radio and Joey's Formal Waltz by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/www.ManwhorePod.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Ah! Oh my god, you scared the crap outa' me!" Barrett's reaction to Chris coming out. Mark Barrett is a predator caught in the Blount County, Alabama investigation. He is mostly known for his large ears, muscular build, and passive aggressive attitude during his arrest and interview.  Barrett was born in August of 1985. In a joint operation between the Blount County Sheriff's office and the Genesee County, Michigan G.H.O.S.T. Team, Barrett, under the alias of "Alex," had a sexually charged conversation with the decoy who pretended to be a fifteen-year-old girl.  Barrett was initially skeptical of meeting, fearing that the decoy was actually a set-up to rob him, but eventually calmed his nerves after the decoy sent him a picture of herself. Barrett showed up to the sting house carrying bottles of Coca-Cola and a bottle of Apple Crown Royal whisky. He asked the decoy if she wanted her drink mixed, to which she responded that she wants "a heavy pour," like any normal fifteen-year-old girl would ask for. Then, Chris appeared from around the corner while Barrett was getting ice for the drink, startling him. Sponsored by: TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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On this episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, Chris is joined by Jeffery Epstein victim and survivor Juliette Bryant. Bryant recounts, in disturbing detail, meeting Epstein and other high profile figures, what happened when he and his staff took her from South Africa to the U.S., and her time on both Epstein's private Caribbean island and ranch in New Mexico. Bryant also shares rarely seen photos and reveals how life is for her today. Photo Credits https://x.com/JulietteBryant anniefarmer.com / Rob Bergman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this episode, Justin interviews Deyna Feng, Director of Captive Programs at Cummins, about her role at the company. They discuss the reality of climate change risks and how Cummins uses captives to address them in the short- and long-term in the U.S. and 36 countries globally. They talk about the various facets of the company, from property to supply chain, to business continuity, to human resources, at risk from climate events. They discuss the variety of regulatory sustainability reporting requirements around the globe.   Listen for steps to take to use captives for your climate risk planning and strategy.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:17] About this episode of RIMScast. Our topic today is the interconnection between captives and climate risk. To help me delve deeper into this connection, I've asked Deyna Feng of Cummins to rejoin us. It will be great to catch up with her! [:49] You're going to walk away from this episode with a lot of great ideas for your captive programs. But first… [:55] RIMS-CRMP and Some Prep Courses. The next virtual prep course will be held on March 110th and 11th and again on April 21st and 22nd. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:12] RIMS Virtual Workshops are coming up. On January 21st and 22nd, Chris Hansen returns to deliver the course, "Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability and Employment Practices in the US". [1:26] On February 4th and 5th, Ken Baker will return to deliver the course, "Applying and Integrating ERM". [1:36] The full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's notes. [1:47] RIMS members always enjoy deep discounts on the virtual workshops. [1:57] The RIMS-CRO Certificate Program in Advanced Enterprise Risk Management is hosted by the famous James Lam. This is a live virtual program that helps elevate your expertise and career in ERM. [2:10] You can enroll now for the next cohort, which will be held over 12 weeks from April 14th through June 23rd. Links to registration and enrollment are in this episode's show notes. [2:24] On with the show! Deyna Feng is rejoining us for the first time since 2021. She is the Director of Captive Programs at Cummins. [2:38] Cummins designs, manufactures, distributes, and services a broad range of power solutions, from traditional diesel and natural gas engines to advanced electric, hybrid, and hydrogen fuel cell technologies. [2:50] Deyna is here to discuss how climate change has had a huge influence on how she manages captives for Cummins. We're also going to speak a little more broadly about the ways you might think about climate risk as you launch or alter your captive program. Let's get to it… [3:06] Interview! Deyna Feng, welcome back to RIMScast! [3:21] Deyna Feng has been working for Cummins for the past 15 years. She was always with the risk insurance team and, since 2015, she's managed the captive operations, the insurance programming inside it, and the whole insurance company. [3:52] Deyna started with Cummins as Regional Risk Manager for Asia Pacific. Then she joined the company to manage its captive. Deyna has been really passionate about this career path because captive is such a wonderful risk management and risk insurance tool. [4:08] Deyna says Cummins has been using its captive constantly and actively managing different types of risk and profiles. [4:34] A captive is an insurance company. Cummins's captive is a pure captive, or a single-parent captive, so it purely insures the parent company's risks and business. [4:44] The benefit of a captive insurance company is that, instead of buying insurance from the commercial market, you can really tailor your insurance program within a captive. [4:55] They also provide financial benefits like tax benefits and some other things you can manage through the captive. [5:03] For the past few years, it's been hard on the insurance market on the property and the liability side. Cummins uses its captive, proactively, managing the whole program in a really unique way. Everything is tailor-made to your own program, your own risk. [5:21] If you are a good risk management account, you will receive benefits by doing such a self-insurance arrangement. [5:38] Justin recalls from reporting that in 2025, there are hundreds more captives among medium and small businesses than there were 20 years ago. Feng agrees. It's a booming market for the whole captive industry. It's growing for all captive domiciles around the world. [6:01] Deyna and Justin believe that captives are a big part of the future of risk management. [6:09] Justin reconnected with Deyna because of her unique philosophy that climate change can greatly impact a captive and, therefore, a company. [6:38] Deyna thinks everyone is feeling the effects of climate change in the current environment. They see more things happening, more frequently, with more severity; events like wildfires, floods, and hurricanes. [6:53] Deyna says, Before, it's rarely showing anywhere, or a 500-year event, then suddenly, something happens. We experience such dramatic events in different facilities globally. So, we are thinking such events can escalate super quickly and become catastrophic. [7:17] Deyna asks how we can manage such events, especially when you are dealing with a large insurance program, and it involves a big business interruption to your global company. [7:29] Deyna thinks there is a growing concern for global companies like Cummins for a few important reasons. First, frequency and severity are rising. Also, it's less predictable in certain areas, and there will be increasing exposure for large, global facilities. [8:08] Deyna speaks of supply chains. For a large manufacturing company with a global footprint, it's important to manage supply chain risk in a better way. The climate risk is changing globally, so it will impact Cummins's supply chain risk to a large extent. [8:30] Deyna says it also increased the complexity of managing claims, like a hurricane claim. Hurricane Helena is our recent example. It happened over a year ago, but it impacted multiple locations in that area and also impacted Cummins's warehouses and logistics centers. [8:50] It impacted the whole business revenue and the whole area. So, it becomes a much more complex claim to manage and handle. Even now, Cummins is still dealing with the whole impact of that Hurricane Helena flood claim. [9:11] Justin asks about polycrisis and how one event triggers others that the captive manager has to oversee and try to resolve. [9:31] Deyna says, Cummins has suppliers in that area. If those suppliers don't have good insurance coverage, then Cummins helps them out, so they can help Cummins's local business. That impacts a lot. Cummins is still dealing with a business interruption claim from that event. [10:06] Deyna says one important area for climate risk management is dealing with government regulatory requirement reporting changes, not just in the U.S, but worldwide, with international reporting. [10:25] Certain countries are more advanced in regulation development. So, for those countries, Cummins has to make sure to do a proper evaluation and prepare for those government reporting requirements. [10:44] That involves a whole set of reviews from different lenses. To manage the risk more effectively and efficiently, Cummins needs to consider a few options. One is about data. [10:59] The whole risk management and risk insurance program is data-driven, so Cummins makes sure to gather important climate risk-related data and then models it globally in CAD. This way, Cummins can anticipate future risk and business impact. [11:24] The second is the partners Cummins works with. Those are insurance, reinsurance, and brokers. They offer different types of climate risk-related data analysis. [11:38] From there, certain captives can use such data-driven arrangements and cat modelling to plan their parametric solution. That's a unique type of risk, tailor-made. [12:00] Deyna says Cummins's global insurance program has broad coverage, already covering such climate risks. That's useful for specific risks in certain areas. You have the trend, you see the need, and then you use this to pay claims quickly without complex claim procedures. [12:28] The other area Cummins has been doing is leveraging the data it receives and then utilizing the captive to do the strategic planning. That is how Cummins utilizes the captives to structure its global property liability program. [12:46] And then Cummins uses the captive as a fronting mechanism, and then puts more layers within the captive to manage large claims more flexibly. [12:58] Then the other part is using the captive to buy reinsurance to transfer certain catastrophic events or the higher risks to the reinsurance market. So it's a diversified captive strategy. [13:15] Justin asks about business continuity planning. Deyna says that to manage climate risk, business continuity planning is important. Lots of companies use it to manage traditional risks, like a flood or a fire, but it is also important to deal with future climate risk resiliency planning. [13:39] The supply chain risk is part of that, and then when you identify the high-risk area, like a heat wave, or cold stress, or water stress, how can you make sure your local businesses are well prepared to deal with those situations, especially in the long run? [14:00] Quick Break! RISKWORLD 2026 will be held from May 3rd through the 6th in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. RISKWORLD attracts more than 10,000 risk professionals from across the globe. It's time to Connect, Cultivate, and Collaborate with them. Booth sales are open now! [14:22] General registration and speaker registration are also open right now! Marketplace and Hospitality badges will be available starting on March 3rd. Links are in this episode's show notes. [14:37] Let's Return to Our Interview with Deyna Feng! [14:45] Deyna says Cummins is based in Indiana. Deyna lives there. [14:53] Deyna says, This year, the snow hit us super early. Before, it's after Christmas time, when we start seeing snow, and January is super cold, and this year, like, early December, we're already in cold weather. [15:05] Justin says, Yeah, we're recording in mid-December right now, and we received somewhere between 6 and 12 inches of snow on Sunday, just a few days before recording this. [15:17] Justin continues, And now, today, we're gonna be hitting the 50 degree mark. So everything is finally gonna melt away, but it's also gonna wreak havoc on our senses, and people are gonna get sick, right? That just happens. Yes, I'm just venting here about climate change. [15:41] Globally, Deyna has regional risk managers, a renewal team, and a claims team, who work together as one big team of around 16 people in total. [16:07] Dena describes her role as Director of Captive Programs. The insurance company is complex. They have to deal with all the government requirements and year-end matters, program renewal, and Cummins's captive, covering the international employee benefits side. [16:20] Cummins's captive covers the medical and the non-medical program for over 36 countries. [16:29] Justin interviewed the Risk Manager of the Year for 2025, Jennifer Pack, with Hilton. In addition to her role in risk management for Hilton, she was also the captive manager, and she said that sometimes that's a one-day-a-week job, and sometimes it's a four-day-a-week job. [6:47] It really depends on various things, and climate change was one of the items that she mentioned. Justin says, It's something that our audience should be thinking about, because captive management is not going away. [17:05] Justin says, It is something that you want to have in your arsenal as a risk professional, and it can enhance your career, like it's doing for Deyna. [17:16] Justin says, We've seen how some policymakers in the U.S. try to debunk climate change, even though there's overwhelming evidence to suggest that it is a real thing, and it still ranks very highly on the World Economic Forum's list of top risks. [17:31] Justin asks, Against that backdrop, how are you swaying the decision makers at Cummins these days? You just said you were going to speak to some of your internal stakeholders, so what do you need to do to convince them? [17:45] Deyna says that the World Economic Forum emphasizes that climate change now represents massive physical and transition risks, with over $3.6 trillion in damage from disasters since 2000. So, it's a serious number. [18:10] Deyna says, Our CEO takes climate change seriously. We are trying to be the environmental sustainability advocacy lead in the industry and market. [18:23] Deyna says, Cummins has a strategy and commitment to the 2030 environment goals and 2050 targets. We are doing Destination Zero, which is helping not just our own facility, but also our customers and suppliers to navigate the energy transition and environmental goals. [18:46] Cummins's CEO is Jennifer Rumsey. Deyna says she's an awesome, wonderful CEO. [19:07] Justin says, It sounds like you have a line of communication to her. [19:11] Deyna says, We do. This is an important topic. We do annual reporting, including all the aspects relating to this Destination Zero goal. It involves so many functions within Cummins to work with these goals and targets. [10:38] The goals include decarbonization, material changes, community goals to address the site and community greenhouse gas emissions, and also, volatile organic components, water, and waste. [19:56] There are so many things that can be leveraged and developed perfectly with this approach. [20:06] A Final Break! The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved, in part, by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [20:25] Spencer awards undergraduate, graduate, Ph.D., and Pre-Instructor of Practice Scholarships to students enrolled at an accredited college or university in the U.S. and Canada, and physically studying in either location. No remote coursework eligibility from other locations. [20:42] Including part-time, graduate scholarships to risk management and insurance professionals continuing their education. [20:48] Since 1980, Spencer has invested more than $11.1 million in the scholarship program with awards to over 1,700 students. More than 85% of Spencer's scholarship recipients remain in the industry to this day. [21:03] They've got undergraduate scholarships, full-time Master's scholarships, part-time Master's scholarships, pre-dissertation Ph.D. candidates, doctoral candidates, and pre-instructor of practice scholarships all open now. The application deadline is January 31st, 2026. [21:25] Visit SpencerEd.org/scholarships. You'll find the different application buttons. See the link in this episode's show notes for more information. [21:37] Let's Return to the Conclusion of Our Interview with Deyna Feng!  [22:00] Justin asks Deyna what makes captives uniquely suited to handle climate-driven volatility, compared to traditional insurance solutions. [22:06] Deyna says, Climate risk is quite dynamic, systematic, and also regulatory-driven. It needs continuous investment to understand your climate risk and the government reporting requirements. It's not just one-time managing the risk. [22:25] Deyna says, We look at now as the baseline, with the short-term, mid-term, and long-term, all the way to the end of the century, how the climate risk score is changing for our global facilities. Those are evolving risk scores, not just a one-time risk score. [22:51] Cummins takes a systematic and holistic approach to evaluate the climate risk, so it's not like a daily market change. [23:10] Deyna says, The other part is regulatory diversity, for the whole climate risk aspect, how you manage the risk, matching with different compliance requirements. [23:22] In the U.S., the federal government sets the broad framework, like the Clean Air Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, and some national emission standards. But then, across the 50 states, over 35 states enforce renewable portfolio standards or clean energy standards. [23:41] Different states have different goals, like greenhouse gas reduction targets, and then some other things. And some states are super aggressive on their targets, with much higher standards and quicker standards than the federal guidelines. [24:05] Cummins has a designated team focusing on all the government requirements, the reporting, etc. We share data internally across the broader function teams. [24:24] If we collect data on the climate risk score, we want to make sure everybody leverages the same set of data. We have the same tone and the same message passing on to the global leaders, regional leaders, and even site leaders. [24:37] Justin asks about having systems in place. [24:42] Deyna says, We are building a risk framework around this area. That includes the centralized data. We share the same set of data with the stakeholders. We do need internal stakeholder alignment. [24:55] Deyna says, We have strategic alignment, talking about the same thing. Then we also need to work with site leaders at the site-level resiliency on their business continuity planning. [25:10] Deyna's team provides global training because climate risk is still quite a new concept to many people managing the risk. Deyna wants to make sure they understand where we come from, how we manage the data, and the risk. [25:21] Justin asks about Cummins's risk insurance and captive strategy. [25:28] Cummins uses captives strategically. From this climate risk management, Deyna says, we also have different approaches, from a few lenses. First is the risk data. [25:41] Deyna says, We select a good partner to help us review our global portfolio, and we gather the individual site climate risk score. [25:51] Deyna says, Then we put them together so that we can generate the whole company profile, the regional risk map, down to the country level and site-specific level about where the risky areas are for the individual site from a climate risk perspective. [26:06] Deyna says, Then, from the insurance program perspective, we also have a layered insurance program with our captive actively involved in leading the strategy and also, doing the transfer of the larger layers or risks to the reinsurance market. [26:23] Deyna continues, So, we buy the multi-year aggregate stop-loss in the captive to cap our volatility. Then, there are some other ways about parametric insurance that other companies can consider. [26:36] For Cummins, because we have broad coverage, we already consider such cat risks, including future rainfall, wind, and heat-related scenarios. [26:48] In addition to these, supply chain risk is an important piece to manage. So, contingency BI is also an important area to be considered in your insurance program, and it also covers the climate risk profile. [27:02] Deyna says, We have been using captive funding for the business resilience project. We do the business continuity planning stress test globally, and we also fund the climate risk project from the captive. [27:34] Deyna says, The most important thing is how to manage your employees' well-being. That's not just physical health; we are talking more about mental health. And to be frank, in certain areas, people already experience the climate risk impact, like heat, in the summertime. [27:52] Cummins has its International Employee Benefits Program in its captive, leveraging this program together with the climate risk management and working with HR, about how to better manage climate risk, with resiliency, in the future. [28:09] Deyna continues, talking about mental health support during disaster, emergency relocation, and making people, employees, and their families feel they are safe, working in a safe environment, and also that they don't need to worry about climate risk impact on operations. [28:20] Justin asks Deyna for words for young risk professionals coming up and organizations beginning to explore captives for climate risk financing. What are the misconceptions or blind spots that she sees? [29:44] Deyna says a blind spot about climate change is thinking that climate risk is too long-term for a captive and that captives are for managing whatever is coming up suddenly. In reality, floods, wildfires, and hurricanes are happening now and more frequently than before. [30:26] If we can model these types of risks for short-term, medium-term, and long-term retention strategies, that's important for captive or risk insurance for large companies to consider the future strategy. [30:41] The other thing Deyna hears is that captives only handle traditional reinsurance programs. Cummins uses the captive to fund risk insurance strategies or projects. Gathering climate risk data, building up the model, and cat modelling. [31:00] This also includes thinking about how to integrate this type of risk into risk financing and the insurance program. Cummins is managing it actively. [31:12] The other thing Deyna hears is that data is optional. So, especially for captive, everything is data-driven. [31:25] We have to do cat modelling, we have to make sure we buy the proper insurance program with proper premium payment, and also whether the retention level is appropriate for our site level, for captive, and for the overall program. So, data is the key, or data is the king. [32:00] Deyna says this touches employee safety, employee benefits, supply chain risk, and environmental liability. Lots of areas touch climate risk, not just the property program. [32:26] Deyna lists some suggestions. Build a holistic climate risk profile within the company, across all the global sites, that covers all the countries. Each company will change dramatically in climate risk. It must be data-driven. [33:01] To gather the data, find a proper partner to work with a reputable climate-risk expert to help you check legislative changes, access the hazard or cat modelling, and provide good climate risk data matching with those regulatory changes and compliance requirements. [33:24] Then support your thorough risk evaluation. That's the data part. [33:28] Then, on top of the data, build a good insurance management program, and leverage your captive to build the captive strategy relating to retention, the limit, and the parametrics, insurance program design, like parametric triggers. [33:45] In addition to the insurance program, you have the ERM, the Enterprise Risk Management, ESG reporting, and all the compliance relating to country requirements and state law requirements. [33:58] In Europe, it's CSRD. In the U.S., it's an SEC filing. So, there are lots of different regulatory requirements relating to this area. You want to make sure your data can support your reporting and then can be sustainable, year over year, not just a one-year data point. [34:15] Then, the other thing is the business continuity. Make sure that the good BCP management or integration, including climate risk, especially for all the high risks you are capturing, you should have really good operational resilience to face that. [34:33] Justin mentions that CSRD stands for Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive, which sets the standard for how EU companies need to report on their sustainability work. He had to plug that in because there are so many abbreviations and acronyms in risk management. [34:53] Deyna's last point is to share the data internally with a cross-functional group, with internal stakeholders, including senior leadership reporting up to the CEO and COO level. [35:05] Share the data with the middle management team, global team, global leadership team, global management team, and then down to the site level. [35:15] All the parties need to work together to shape a holistic strategy around climate risk management. It's not just for risk insurance or captive only. [35:25] Justion says, Excellent. And so these are great tips for everybody. If you're thinking about launching a captive against your climate risk data profile, I think this is the way to go. [35:37] Justin says, Ms. Rumsey is your CEO, but before that, she was the Chief Operating Officer. So, you must have already had a good working relationship with her before she was promoted, right? [36:02] Deyna says, Yes. This is an important area, because we have not only climate risk, but also the whole risk relating to this area, managed by an environmental sustainability team. [36:16] They organize all the different functions, trying to achieve the goals, and then figure out all the different aspects of our operation and what we can do to meet our future goals. [36:27] This is long-term-driven. It's not like a five-year project; you get it done, and the project is completed. It's long-term. [36:35] Justin says, Ms. Rumsey had come on as COO in March of 2021. You and I first met, or at least recorded the RIMSCast episode, in May of 2021. [36:46] So right around that time, you were probably having higher-level discussions with her, and now you already had her ear, so I think that just speaks to the value of relationship building along the way. Would you agree? [36:58] Deyna says, We have the designated team internally managing this area, and we do connect through that lens, trying to gather the data a long, long time ago. [37:10] Justin says, But it's the sort of thing where, first of all, it's nice to see that people are promoted from within. I think that's a really great thing that Cummins did. [37:18] And second, the fact that you already had that line of communication, and it's not like you had to establish a new one with a new CEO. You already had that line of communication with somebody who was moving up into the role. [37:30] So, I think that speaks to Cummins's credit. I think it speaks to your credit and to your advantage, because you don't have to start from scratch and build that line. [37:40] Deyna acknowledges, Yes, it's super important. [37:44] Well, Dana, it has been such a pleasure to see you again, to record with you again here on RIMSCast. It's been almost five years, and we hope to see you at RISKWORLD. [38:00] Thank you once again for rejoining us, and hopefully, the next time I see you, it won't be five years in between. [38:06] Deyna says, Definitely. I love RIMS events, and all the conferences, the webinars, and even your podcast, so it's super good. [38:17] Justin says, Thank you so much. You're a wonderful guest. [38:20] Special thanks again to Deyna Feng for joining us here on RIMScast. Links to other RIMSCast episodes about captive insurance management are in this episode's show notes. [38:34] I've also got links to RIMS Risk Management Magazine articles about captives, as well as other RIMS resources, so check it out and go to the Risk Knowledge page of RIMS.org. [38:46] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [39:14] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [39:32] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. Visit RIMS.org/membership or email membershipdept@RIMS.org for more information. 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Feras Mahmoud Klisli is an alleged predator caught in a Polk County, Florida investigation.  At the time of the sting, Klisli had been living in Orlando, Florida with his wife, Heba, and their adult disabled daughter.  Klisli had been communicating with a decoy posing as a fourteen-year-old virgin girl. Described as "cryptic" by detectives, Klisli said in the chat that he wanted to kiss the girl all over her body and wanted sex. Klisli acknowledged the decoy's age at least five times, saying, "I hope I can meet with you, but you are 14 and that's dangerous."  When Klisli arrived at the sting house, he was taken into custody immediately after getting out of his car, instead of the typical scenario where the alleged predator walks into the house. Deputies took him to the ground in the middle of the road while Klisli repeatedly asked what was happening. Detectives called the number they had for Klisli, to verify that the person they were talking to was the man that showed up, and it appeared that Klisli had the decoy's name saved as "14.” During the interview with Chris, Klisli claimed that he did not know that the decoy was underage, instead claiming that he thought she was nineteen.  After further questioning, Klisli admitted that he did know that the decoy said she was fourteen, but claimed that he thought she was a liar.   Sponsored by: TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Have a Seat, Chris Hansen is joined by the dynamic, passionate and polarizing lawman of Genesee County, Michigan, Sheriff Chris Swanson. Most recognized for dropping his riot gear and joining a 2020 Black Lives Matter protest in Flint, Sheriff Swanson and Hansen dive into the many projects and community efforts Sheriff Swanson has and is spearheading; from how G.H.O.S.T (the Genesee County Human Oppression Strike Team) was created to protect children and combat human trafficking, to working with music sensation Jelly Roll on the I.G.N.I.T.E program, and how together Hansen, Sheriff Swanson, and his team have identified and arrested dozens of men attempting to commit crimes against children, including a local doctor and former police officer!  Sheriff Swanson is now setting his sights on the entire community of the state of Michigan as he's announced his run for Governor and reveals to Chris if he has a shot at winning the office.  Footage Courtesy of:  Takedown with Chris Hansen PBS News Genesee County, Michigan Sheriff's Office  Sheriff Chris Swanson Chris Swanson for Governor  G.H.O.S.T. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Stosh Gizinski is a predator caught in a Genesee County, Michigan investigation. He is notable for claiming that he only came to the sting house to look for his long-lost missing sister.  At the time of the sting, Gizinski had been living in Lapeer, Michigan. He had been working as a roofer and has had various licensing and business issues in the past. He also had two daughters that were fourteen and eighteen-years-old at the time of the sting. Gizinski claimed that his sister, Rachel, went missing in Jackson, Michigan.  On October 18, 2023, Gizinski had begun communicating with a decoy posing as a fifteen-year-old girl. Initially, Gizinski asked for a "5-10 min quickie." Described as a "fast mover" by Chris, Gizinski repeatedly asked the decoy if she was ready to meet because he had limited time away from work. After the decoy told him that she was fifteen, Gizinski responded, "Ok I can come now or I have to go back to work."  Gizinski arrived to the sting house, which was decorated with pictures of Jerry Hetherington, Donnie Vaughn, and various warning signs. After a brief conversation with the decoy, where Gizinski said almost nothing, she left and Chris came out to confront him.  Sponsored by: TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to RIMScast. Your host is Justin Smulison, Business Content Manager at RIMS, the Risk and Insurance Management Society.   In this first episode of 2026, Justin interviews Morgan O'Rourke and Hilary Tuttle of RIMS Risk Management Magazine. They discuss major cyber events of 2025, court rulings on AI fair use, and what risk professionals should take away about AI training data and intellectual property. They discuss regulations about forever chemicals or PFAS and what to look for in 2026 and beyond as these regulations change. They discuss the U.S. government shutdown of October and its residual effects.   Listen for a call for content submissions for RIMS Risk Management Magazine.   Key Takeaways: [:01] About RIMS and RIMScast. [:17] About this episode of RIMScast. This is our first episode of 2026. We're going to look forward and back, and who better to do that with than Morgan O'Rourke and Hilary Tuttle of RIMS Risk Management Magazine? [:44] We will discuss some of the top risk management stories of 2025 and what they might mean for 2026. There's so much to discuss, from forever chemicals to AI! But first… [:55] RIMS-CRMP and Some Prep Courses. The next virtual prep course will be held on January 14th and 15th, 2026. These are virtual courses. Links to these courses can be found through the Certification page of RIMS.org and through this episode's show notes. [1:12] RIMS Virtual Workshops are coming up. This is the last call for "Intro to ERM for Senior Leaders". It will be held on January 8th, led by Joe Mayo. [1:24] On January 21st and 22nd, Chris Hansen returns to deliver the course, "Managing Worker Compensation, Employer's Liability and Employment Practices in the US". [1:35] On February 4th and 5th, Ken Baker will return to deliver the course, "Applying and Integrating ERM". [1:45] The full schedule of virtual workshops can be found on the RIMS.org/education and RIMS.org/education/online-learning pages. A link is also in this episode's notes. [1:57] RIMS members always enjoy deep discounts on the virtual workshops. [2:06] The RIMS-CRO Certificate Program in Advanced Enterprise Risk Management is hosted by the famous James Lam. This is a live virtual program that helps elevate your expertise and career in ERM. [2:19] You can enroll now for the next cohort, which will be held over 12 weeks from April 14th through June 23rd. Links to registration and enrollment are in this episode's show notes. [2:34] On with the show! The annual Year in Risk Review edition of RIMS Risk Management Magazine is now available. Visit RMMagazine.com for more information. [2:47] We're going to pick up where we left off with Morgan O'Rouke and Hilary Tuttle of RIMS Risk Management Magazine and the RIMS Publication Department. [2:54] Feel free to check out Episode 371 to get caught up as we discuss natural catastrophes and their impact on the landscape. [3:04] In this episode, we're going to talk about AI, PFAS forever chemicals, and how you can contribute to RIMS Risk Management Magazine in 2026. [3:14] Risk Management Magazine is an Azbee award winner, so you are hearing insights from the best in the business of risk management reporting. Let's get to it… [3:24] Interview!  Morgan O'Rourke and Hilary Tuttle, welcome back to RIMScast! [4:01] The Year in Risk 2025 Edition of RIMS Risk Management Magazine has been on digital shelves for a few weeks now. We're going to look a little bit forward and backward. [4:34] Data Privacy Day comes up on January 20th every year. All eyes turn to cyber. At RIMS, all eyes turn to Hilary because she is the cyber guru. Hilary thinks every day of the year is Data Privacy Day. [5:15] Hilary says, in the Year in Risk edition, they talked about 2025's Amazon Web Services outage, which took about 70,000 companies offline. It's a solid example of third-party risk and vendor security risks. [5:31] The economic impact of the outage was estimated to be in the billions of dollars, in terms of lost business and business interruption. Hilary said the AWS outage lasted about 16 hours. [5:53] It's a good reminder of vendor concentration risk in cloud services. The cloud services market has three major vendors; Amazon has about 30% of the market. If Amazon goes down, that's a significant number of clients who are at risk. [6:10] Hilary says insurers are not at real risk for this outage. A lot of cyber coverage has provisions for outages with waiting periods of eight to 12 hours. Your insurer might come in for the end of that situation, but most of it is on the insured. [6:38] For insurers and reinsurers, it was a pretty mild event. It's not going to cause huge changes in capacity or rates. It is a reminder that a lot of the risk is going to be on you, depending on the factors that are involved and the vendors that you pick. [6:58] There was also the Marks & Spencer ransomware incident that impacted their stores and online services. They sell about four million Great British pounds a day of products online. Their website was down for three months because of the ransomware event and recovery process. [7:29] Marks & Spencer had to go to pen and paper for in-store sales, and they operate hundreds of stores. It also caused inventory problems. It was a huge increase in waste because they didn't have ways of tracking or selling all of their inventory of food and other goods. [7:45] The cost to Marks & Spencer was estimated to be about three hundred million Great British pounds. [7:53] 2025 was a big year for cyber. Some other British retailers had some issues that have had retailers around the world taking note. [8:04] Morgan was interested in the Jaguar Land Rover case. Since Morgan was a child, he wanted a Jaguar for the hood ornament. If they're taken offline, how is Morgan ever going to get himself a Jaguar? [8:35] Hilary says, You and a lot of other customers, because they had to take all of their very automated production offline for a while. Parts and Sales were interrupted. They saw quarterly revenues drop around 24%, year-over-year, a difference of several hundred million pounds. [8:58] Morgan says it becomes a little bit the same. It doesn't mean that it's not important. It's one of those things we encounter with perpetual risks, whether it's disasters or cyber. [9:12] When they're always happening, they tend to get overlooked until some marquee event like an Amazon Web Services outage takes down a lot of people, or a company is taken offline for months and has to go back to pen and paper. That's not easy at large volumes. [9:38] The underlying current of the risks you have to deal with still needs to be a part of your day-to-day mitigation exercises.  [9:59] Hilary says The more things change, the more things stay the same. [10:18] Morgan says There is a broader perspective to everything. A risk is not just going to affect you; it's going to affect people down the line who are connected to your business. A cybersecurity event that happens over here is bound to have an impact on you, in some way. [10:35] Hilary says concentration risk is an increasing issue, and dependency is an issue. We have allowed some of the market players to become so large that the impact, if anything happens to them, is astounding. [10:50] There are advantages in having a large company as your vendor, but there's also a certain amount of instability in the lack of control you have in what's going on upstream. There's a lot that can happen downstream, to you. [11:26] Hilarity may attend a Black Hat conference this year. From that, she may see what is coming several years down the pike. [12:00] Justin says that AI is omnipresent. Regarding AI, in 2025, courts ruled on Fair Use. Multiple lawsuits were filed, and major settlements were reached. One lawsuit about scrubbing user data came from violating the Terms of Use, rather than copyright infringement. [12:44] Morgan says companies that use AI or are creating an AI should be looking at the emerging liabilities and governance challenges of AI. [12:55] There were a lot of cases. Two cases discussed in the Year in Risk 2025 were about Anthropic and Meta being sued by groups of authors. The courts ruled in both cases that if the AI made substantial changes to the material, they could use it under Fair Use. [13:32] The cases weren't definitive that you have an open free-for-all. Anthropic was guilty of using pirated materials from the authors to train its AI. Anthopic settled by paying $1.5 billion to the authors. The ruling was that you can use material that you get legally, by paying for it. [14:14] There are ways that the AI companies may be held accountable. There are 40 to 50 cases from every manner of media that may be adjudicated differently. It may come down to the sense of the case. There is some precedent set by one case. [14:36] Morgan says, from a content creator perspective, it's heartening that copyright is protected. Hilary says it's disheartening that larger companies like Disney have more negotiating power in what they allow AI to use, but smaller companies may not have as much power. [15:52] Morgan says the New York Times has licensed individual pieces for AI to use. [16:06] If the company creating AI doesn't have an agreement with a content creator, in a lot of court cases, the settlement ends up being a licensing agreement to use the content. [16:19] There's somewhat of an inevitability to the use of AI. You can't do anything about it, so you might as well get on board and get your piece. AI will take a little getting used to. [16:56] Morgan says their future coverage of AI will be less about the promise of AI and more about how to use AI responsibly in your business. What are the risks of AI in your business? [17:37] Everybody's doing it anyway, and risk depends on the level of fact-checking or information verification you are doing when you're putting together anything from an email to an RFP for a new vendor. You don't lose sight of the ball just because it's been around a few years. [17:58] Quick Break! RISKWORLD 2026 will be held from May 3rd through the 6th in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. RISKWORLD attracts more than 10,000 risk professionals from across the globe. It's time to Connect, Cultivate, and Collaborate with them. Booth sales are open now! [18:20] General registration and speaker registration are also open right now! Marketplace and Hospitality badges will be available starting on March 3rd. Links are in this episode's show notes. [18:35] Let's Return to Our Interview with Morgan O'Rourke and Hilary Tuttle! [18:52] Justin brings up forever chemicals. They're in a lot of the things he drinks. The foods that he eats have consumed the same water. Executives in Italy were sentenced for not doing enough about them. In the U.S., the Trump administration started regulatory rollbacks. [19:47] Justin mentions the RIMS webinars about forever chemicals, showing that if we don't work to curtail PFAS, they will have a lasting, harmful effect. [20:21] Morgan says environmental liability for PFAS has been a topic of discussion for a few years. [20:52] The discussions are around how PFAS will be regulated from a business standpoint, and what that means for my company. How do I need to report them? How do I need to mitigate it and clean up the systems I am responsible for? [21:05] Morgan reports that in Italy, 11 executives were sentenced to a total of 141 years in prison for polluting the groundwater in an area of Italy. Studies showed that over time, there were thousands more cancers and cases of cardiovascular disease because of this pollution. [21:35] Morgan says, That's the extreme side of it. It's what everyone wants to prevent. A lot of other countries and U.S. states are passing regulations banning or restricting PFAS. In 2025, in the U.S., some regulations were softened or paused. [21:59] Hilary says there were various efforts to soften different regulations. Morgan explains that it was mainly for the costs to businesses. From the business standpoint, it's going to cost money to mitigate or report whatever the requirement is. [22:14] Morgan says, It's not that restrictions were taken off the table, but it's concerning from a public health standpoint that they are slow-walking PFAS regulations. Morgan would like to think that just because a regulation is paused doesn't mean it won't be put into effect soon. [22:56] Hilary says when she was in Calgary, in the fall, there was a session specifically on PFAS litigation, because Canada has also passed some measures on this. It's a solid reminder that other countries are starting to pick up on this regulation. [23:17] In terms of compliance with what can or can't be used in product development, it's good to keep in mind some of these emerging regulations and the direction they are going. Remediation is definitely a component of it. [23:33] In product development and new product releases, and product reformulations, it is often more expensive to figure out how to use substances that are not the PFAS that have been used for a long time, but that is the direction in which some businesses need to be looking. [23:49] Morgan says, We did it with asbestos, years ago. PFAS started as a health concern, but it is a business concern. If you're responsible for injuring people, as we saw in Italy, you could go to jail. It doesn't mean that will happen in every country, but it doesn't mean it won't. [24:19] Hilary thinks it will be interesting to see what moves the needle in different countries, as there are different business climates in different parts of the world. The United States is a lot more litigious than a lot of other cultures. Some of the regulations are being driven by lawsuits. [24:30] Other places are focused more on compliance, where there's more of a sense of social good, like the Nordics, or parts of Western Europe, Hilary says, where some regulations coming from the government will be enough to move the needle. [24:58] Multinational companies will need to be aware of the regulations in different countries and decide if they will make products for a specific country, restrict sales in that country, or reformulate their offerings. [25:12] Morgan says the idea that there is an acceptable level of PFAS in the water is what bothers him the most. Hilary says there are risks more direct than water. You're cooking your food in PFAS. You have fire blankets to keep your children safe in the wake of wildfires. [25:38] Things that you take for granted, that are serving a function, have the forever chemicals because they serve the function. Waterproof shoes, for example. You're relying on the benefit, but you're not necessarily thinking about the risks that you're introducing. [25:54] Morgan says that it's all about the concentration of things. PFAS are in whatever you consume. At a certain point, it becomes harmful. Hilary says, You might buy one pair of waterproof shoes, but what if everyone does, and they all end up in landfills and cause runoff? [26:39] It's a personal risk vs. a collective risk issue. It's a short-term risk vs. a long-tail risk issue. Hilary and Morgan discuss tapwater. Ignorance is bliss. It's a long-term risk. [27:11] A Final Break! The Spencer Educational Foundation's goal to help build a talent pipeline of risk management and insurance professionals is achieved, in part, by its collaboration with risk management and insurance educators across the U.S. and Canada. [27:30] Spencer awards undergraduate, graduate, Ph.D., and Pre-Instructor of Practice Scholarships to students enrolled at an accredited college or university in the U.S. and Canada, and physically studying in either location. No remote coursework eligibility from other locations. [27:47] Including part-time, graduate scholarships to risk management and insurance professionals continuing their education. [27:53] Since 1980, Spencer has invested more than $11.1 million in the scholarship program with awards to over 1,700 students. More than 85% of Spencer's scholarship recipients remain in the industry to this day. [28:09] They've got undergraduate scholarships, full-time Master's scholarships, part-time Master's scholarships, pre-dissertation Ph.D. candidates, doctoral candidates, and pre-instructor of practice scholarships all open now. The application deadline is January 31st, 2026. [28:30] Visit SpencerEd.org/scholarships. You'll find the different application buttons. See the link in this episode's show notes for more information. [28:42] Let's Return to the Conclusion of Our Interview with Morgan O'Rourke and Hilary Tuttle!  [28:59] RIMS Risk Management Magazine is looking for risk managers, business professionals, and legal professionals to contribute by way of articles and share their knowledge. [29:21] Morgan says We're looking for articles talking not just about the risk, but about what a risk manager can do about the risk. The actionable part of the article describes the risk management. We're trying to help our risk manager readers do their jobs better. [29:44] If you're looking to contribute something, share your knowledge. How did you deal with this risk that you are encountering? What are the steps that you recommend people take to mitigate that risk? [29:58] That ends up being the most successful article. It accomplishes our mission most clearly. [30:06] Hilary adds, if there is something that has come up at work that surprises you, as a seasoned risk professional, it may be new, emerging, or surprising to someone else. [30:18] Sharing your expertise with your colleagues is something we are always looking to do, and we're happy to help you figure out how to do it. [30:34] Justin says When we attend a RIMS event, we have a chance to mingle with our members and the attendees. People have come up to me and said they listen to the show, and they would love it if I would do an episode on "this." [30:54] One that stood out to Justin is amusement park ride safety risk. He plans to do an episode on that in the summer. [31:13] Hilary says, We love a novelty risk. They have done articles on water parks and ski resorts. Morgan says everybody's got a risk they're facing. Hilary wrote a blog post years ago about bouncy houses. Justin did an episode on hot air balloons. [31:35] Morgan recalls doing an article on microbreweries, and a brewery sent them a six-pack. He'd like to do pizza risks next, maybe do a full spread! [32:07] Justin says, We do want to give you a forum to share your knowledge, experience, and recommendations on how to mitigate a risk or tackle it head-on, or a new idea for a strategy on an emerging risk. [32:25] Margan says some of those things may start as an article and later become a podcast episode. It's key to provide content that RIMS may be looking for, in general. It all starts with reaching out to Morgan or Hilary with an idea. [32:44] Hilary says if you've put together a PowerPoint for a presentation, you probably have a pitch. Morgan says, You've basically got an article or a conversation started. If it's worthwhile to share with a conference audience, it's worthwhile to share with everybody. [33:01] When Hilary meets a risk manager, her favorite questions to ask are What is the most unexpected risk that you've dealt with? What is the number one risk that you've dealt with? What did you not think that you'd be spending your days on? [33:17] Hilary met a risk manager who worked for a group of public universities. He said the biggest unexpected problem that he deals with is kids riding motorized scooters on sidewalks or leaving them for people to trip over. Ebikes catch on fire. 100 kids a year get hurt from them.  [33:56] Hilary says, If you have a situation like that, if there's a risk that you never expected, if nothing else, we'd be really interested to hear about it. [34:05] There are so many topics from 2025 to check out in the Q4 edition of RIMS Risk Management Magazine at RMMagazine.com now. [34:26] In October, the longest U.S. Government shutdown in history occurred. This led to a 10% cut in air traffic capacity and a lapse in the NFIP, which is one of RIMS's top legislative priorities. Once the government reopened, the NFIP was reauthorized until the end of January. [35:06] The NFIP has been kicked down the road for a shorter period than anyone really wants. This was one of the few times it has been allowed to fully lapse. It leaves claims up in the air. [35:46] Homeowners, buyers, and developers in high-risk areas can't get federally-backed mortgages without flood insurance. The lapse put a lot of property purchases in peril or on hold. Morgan says there wasn't a big run on claims in the last 40 days, but there could have been. [36:28] Hilary points out that real estate developers couldn't sell homes in that period in areas where flood insurance is required. There are business impacts that are not storm-related. [37:01] The shutdown had an enormous human toll with people losing jobs or being furloughed and going without money, not being able to pay rent, mortgage, or childcare. SNAP was cut for a significant period. [37:30] Ernst & Young estimated the hit to the GDP as 1 to 1.5%, or a loss of $7 to $14 billion of economic output that would not be made back up after the government reopened. It was a disruption with long-term implications. [37:57] Morgan says We're coming up on another fight as the reopening of the government only lasts until the end of January. If there is debate, as there always has been, we'll go through this process again. How long will that take? Have we learned from our mistake two months ago? [38:22] Morgan says uncertainty is never good for the economy or for our mental well-being. [38:31] Justin says, we're going to cap the conversation for now, and invites Morgan and Hilary back in about five months for the 2026 Mid-year Risk in Review. [38:42] It's been such a pleasure to be rejoined by you here on RIMScast. Everyone can go to RMMagazine.com, and you're already hard at work on Q1 2026, right? Morgan says we put up new articles every week. There's always something new. The digital issues come up every quarter. Check your email inboxes for Editor's Picks, which we will send out once a month! [38:22] Morgan says those are ways to check us out or be reminded that we're out there providing you with information that you can use. [39:30] Morgan says, for RIMS members, there is the RIMS Now newsletter we send out to members quarterly with RIMS-centric news. [39:52] Justin says, It's been a pleasure, and I look forward to seeing you both, hopefully at RISKWORLD in Philadelphia! [40:13] Special thanks again to Morgan O'Rourke and Hilary Tuttle of RIMS Risk Management Magazine and the RIMS Publications Department for joining us here on RIMScast. Remember to listen to Part 1 of this interview, via the link in this episode's show notes. [40:19] Visit RMMagazine.com to check out the Year in Risk feature and the Q4 edition of RIMS Risk Management Magazine. This is reporting from the best in the profession. You can't get any better than RIMS Risk Management Magazine. [40:37] Morgan and Hilary will return for the Mid-year in Risk episode of RIMScast, so subscribe to RIMScast today, don't miss it! [40:44] Plug Time! You can sponsor a RIMScast episode for this, our weekly show, or a dedicated episode. Links to sponsored episodes are in the show notes. [41:11] RIMScast has a global audience of risk and insurance professionals, legal professionals, students, business leaders, C-Suite executives, and more. Let's collaborate and help you reach them! Contact pd@rims.org for more information. [41:29] Become a RIMS member and get access to the tools, thought leadership, and network you need to succeed. 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It's a diabolical and sickening case of a Chicago Public Schools dean who preyed upon an underaged student from 2013-2016 with constant grooming tactics, sexual assaults, and even impregnating her twice and forcing her to have abortions.  But after living in fear for years, the victim recently came forward and a Cook County jury found Brian Crowder guilty of multiple counts of sexual assaults and sentenced him to 22 years behind bars.  The victim, Jane Doe, was also awarded a $17.5 million dollar settlement thanks to her attorneys, Martin Gould and Bryce Hensley, who join Chris on this disturbing and frightening episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen. They dive into the details of the case and what impact it has on victims rights and school systems around the country.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rhett Warner is a predator caught in a Genesee County, Michigan investigation. At the time of the sting, Warner lived in or near Saginaw, Michigan. Warner had been communicating with a decoy posing as a fifteen-year-old girl while going by the names "John" and "Big John." Warner's conversation with the decoy went on for about a week before going to the sting house. The decoy told Warner that her stepfather and she liked to meet with men for her to have sex with while the stepfather watched. Warner was agreeable to this scenario during a phone call with the decoy.  Upon arriving to the sting house, Warner met the decoy stepfather outside before going inside to meet the decoy girl. When Chris came out, Warner said "Chris Hansen!" and tried to escape, but he was stopped by the decoy stepfather.  Sponsored by: TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators  Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 2004, Dateline NBC rolled out a new segment. “To Catch a Predator" was a bait-and-switch operation where producers chatted online with men looking for sex with a minor, then lured them to a home where reporter Chris Hansen would confront them on camera. The undercover segments were billed as helpful to both police and victims, as America watched the would-be predators squirm in shame before getting arrested. But its legacy is complicated, as the show faced scrutiny for aggressive tactics, murky ethics, and entertainment masquerading as justice.Now airing on Paramount+, “Predators” looks at “To Catch a Predator"'s impact on due process, actual benefits to deterrence, and effect on those ensnared. It also looks at the new generation of vigilantes who entrap suspected pedophiles. Director David Osit questions whether the TV show's goal was - as host Chris Hansen would claim - to understand why the men did what they did…or whether the goal was to humiliate them on national television.OUR SPOILER-FREE REVIEWS OF "PREDATORS" BEGIN IN THE FINAL 13 MINUTES OF THE EPISODE.  For exclusive podcasts and more, sign up at Patreon.Sign up for our newsletter at crimewriterson.com.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

*Warning: This episode contains talk of sexual situations and sexual assault that may be triggering for some. Viewer and listener discretion is advised. Haley Robson, victim and survivor of Jeffrey Epstein, has a seat with Chris Hansen for an emotional, raw and powerful conversation surrounding her experiences with Epstein and the recent release of the investigation files. Haley reveals to Chris how she was recruited and groomed by Epstein, how her and the other survivor-victims are uniting, her thoughts on Ghislaine Maxwell and her culpability, and what Epstein took away from her. Robson's unwavering bravery to expose the truth behind Epstein and his empire shines through in this timely and poignant episode. Sponsors: Home Title Lock: Go to ⁠https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen⁠ and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit ⁠https://hometitlelock.com/warranty⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join Jessica Yañez for a hilarious and heartfelt conversation with Raven Rodriguez, the viral TikTok creator behind the beloved music reaction videos with her Gen Z and millennial daughters. With over 280,000 followers, Raven has built a community by showing her daughters '70s and '80s music videos—and their reactions are pure comedy gold. In this episode, Raven shares the origin story of how blocking her daughter on TikTok led to internet fame, why she shows Maya "traumatic" videos (Chris Hansen has entered the chat!), and how she's intentionally breaking toxic generational patterns in Latino households. From sneaking out as a teen to creating safe spaces for her daughters, Raven opens up about motherhood, mistakes, and building trust through adaptability. You'll laugh, you'll cringe at the problematic lyrics we all sang without thinking, and you'll leave inspired by the beautiful relationship Raven has cultivated with her daughters—one video at a time. Topics discussed: How Raven's TikTok journey started (spoiler: her daughter blocked her) The viral music reaction videos and why they resonate Growing up Latina in the '80s vs. raising Gen Z daughters Normalizing inappropriate male behavior in music and culture Breaking generational trauma and building trust with your kids Chris Hansen, Queen Latifah, and the running jokes that unite generations Why social anxiety doesn't stop Maya from being hilarious on camera Upcoming movies and songs Raven can't wait to show her daughters Follow Raven Rodriguez: TikTok: @blkbird8

Jordan Gerald Henry is a predator caught in a Genesee County, Michigan investigation.  At the time of the sting, Henry had been married for two years. He has a step-daughter who would turn four in February, 2025, and a daughter who was two-months-old (as of January, 2025). He worked as a welder.  Henry had been communicating with a decoy posing as a fifteen-year-old girl. In the chat log, Henry asked if he could ejaculate inside her. The decoy told him that she was on birth control but asked him to just "pull out." Henry responded, "If she's that good, I would want to fuck her all the time. I don't want to pull out of her." Henry inquired as to the price for the teenager's services, but after being told that it would be $150 he managed to barter her down to $80.  Henry eventually found the house while still talking to the decoy on the phone. The decoy tried to make an excuse that her phone battery was low so that she could exit the room, but Henry started following her and asking if he could walk with her. That's when Chris came out to confront Henry.  Sponsored by: Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Reposted from They Did What?!, which you can find now or very soon at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcastica.com/podcast/they-did-what⁠⁠ — Kelsey and Gen discuss Predators, directed by David Osit, released December 8th 2025 on Paramount+, as a product of MTV Entertainment, and revisits the cultural phenomenon of To Catch a Predator, the early-2000s Dateline NBC series that set out to publicly expose men seeking sexual contact with minors online. Using archival footage, behind-the-scenes material, and interviews with people involved on all sides, including Chris Hansen himself, Predators poses questions about accountability, spectacle, and the human cost of turning crime into content. Next up: “We Beat The Dream Team”, streaming on HBO Max Send us an email or a voice message to ⁠theydidwhat@podcastica.com⁠, connect with us on Podcastica's discord at ⁠https://discord.gg/hUW632B9PB⁠, or look out for our episode comment posts on ⁠facebook.com/groups/podcastica⁠. We'd love to hear from you! Waiting for our next episode? Leave us a rating or review wherever you get your podcasts and help more people find us to join the fun! Then explore other great shows in the Podcastica network at ⁠podcastica.com⁠!   Mentioned: IndieWire interview with David Osit ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI21Vvu7X1w⁠ NBC News article on Bill Conradt's suicide ⁠https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna15592444⁠ Roblox controversy ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_safety_on_Roblox⁠ Chris Hansen's Roblox controversy coverage ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_safety_on_Roblox⁠ Charges dropped in internet sex-sting cases - Murphy, TX ⁠https://web.archive.org/web/20070609144452/http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/060707dnmetsexsting.36ff8b8.html⁠ Where Are They Now? Chris Hansen ⁠https://www.instagram.com/officialchrishansen?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==⁠ ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/have-a-seat-with-chris-hansen/id1543252280⁠ ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6ia78zSNRXH9n35pd4yNYf?si=336a23236f674268⁠ Skeeter Jean ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@therealskeeterjean⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/therealskeeterjean?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==⁠ Support Resources: National Center for Exploited and Missing Children ⁠https://ncmec.org/theissues/trafficking⁠ US Dept of Justice - Criminal Division - Citizen's Guide To U.S. Federal Child Exploitation And Obscenity Laws ⁠https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-child-exploitation-and-obscenity-laws⁠ International Protection Alliance - Stop Online Predators ⁠https://protectall.org/what-we-do-to-stop-online-exploitation/prevention/⁠ ⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, Chris is joined by legendary country music artist John Rich talk his new song, The Righteous Hunter, and music video that tackles the epidemic of human trafficking. Having co-fronted the band Lonestar, and currently one-half of the country music duo Big and Rich, John Rich is using his voice and platform to raise awareness, advocate for education and call for change surrounding human trafficking. Watch The Righteous Hunter by John Rich on Youtube HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-wfCN2qVew X - @johnrich www.johnrich.com Thanks to our sponsors: Home Title Lock: Go to ⁠https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen⁠ and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit ⁠https://hometitlelock.com/warranty⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brian Russell Jenkinson is an alleged predator caught in a Genesee County, Michigan investigation of Takedown with Chris Hansen.  At the time of the sting, Jenkinson lived in Lapeer, Michigan. He worked in construction, building roads and working on asphalt. Jenkinson has three children. At the time, they were 22, 7, and 13 years of age. He was unable to see his thirteen-year-old daughter for unknown reasons. Jenkinson has an extensive criminal history, with arrests for Attempted Larceny, Attempted Breaking and Entering, Identity Theft, and Theft of a Financial Transaction Device. He was also charged in Arizona with Assault Causing Injury and Disorderly conduct, although those charges were dismissed.  Jenkinson had been communicating with a decoy posing as a fifteen-year-old girl. Jenkinson agreed to pay her $100 to have penetrative sex and to receive oral sex. When he was told the address of the sting house, Jenkinson asked the decoy if she was affiliated with law enforcement, saying, "I just don't want you trying to set me up." Jenkinson also agreed to smoke marijuana with the decoy. When Jenkinson arrived at the sting house, Chris began reading from the chat log where Jenkinson talked about "suck and f***." Jenkinson denied ever saying anything sexual to the decoy. Instead, Jenkinson blamed the decoy, claiming that she was the one talking about sexual acts. He also defended himself by saying that, despite the decoy stating her age, she never mentioned it again. Sponsored by: Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode, Chris Hansen has a seat with Child USA Founder and CEO, Professor Marci Hamilton, a leading expert on clergy sex abuse and child sex abuse statutes of limitation. As author of Justice Denied: What America Must Do to Protect Its Children, Hamilton is at the forefront of crimes against children reform in the United States. Hansen and Hamilton dive into the Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell cases, what the public can hope to learn when the full files are released and how we must put victims first, no matter how much time as passed when crimes against them were committed. Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty ExpressVPN: Go to https://expressvpn.com/CHRISHANSEN and find out how you can get up to 4 extra months thanks to our sponsor, ExpressVPN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Randolph Scott is an alleged predator that was caught in a Blount County, Alabama investigation of Takedown with Chris Hansen.  At the time of the sting, Scott had been living in Adamsville, Alabama with his wife. He also had two children, one 35 and one 38. Blount County Sheriff Mark Moon said that Scott did not have a criminal record.  Scott worked as a Toyota car salesman but was described as being "semi-retired" at the time.  Scott had been communicating with a decoy posing as a fifteen-year-old girl. He agreed to pay the girl $50 for a blowjob. Scott arrived to the sting house, but quickly turned around and drove off. A few minutes later, he returned to the house and parked in the drive way, greeting the decoy at the door. Once Chris came around the corner, Scott attempted to flee out the front door but was quickly apprehended by deputies. While being handcuffed, Scott stated that he was only "coming to visit." He denied ever meeting anyone online for sex in the past, despite his previous charge for soliciting prostitution. Scott did admit to knowing the decoy's age and requesting a blowjob from her, but claimed that he changed his mind. Sponsored by: ExpressVPN: Go to https://expressvpn.com/CHRISHANSEN and find out how you can get up to 4 extra months thanks to our sponsor, ExpressVPN! OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code HANSEN at https://www.oneskin.co/HANSEN #oneskinpod Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For this episode of Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, Chris travels to Tallahassee, Florida for a candid and in-depth interview with Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier regarding his offices recent criminal charges against the online gaming platform Roblox. Uthmeier provides insight into the investigation and how Roblox is choosing profit over protecting kids by allowing sexual predators to access, communicate and groom underaged children. According to the Office of the Florida Attorney General press release, the subpoenas will investigate whether Roblox's actions, or lack thereof, are aiding in predators accessing and harming children and look into predators that are utilizing the platform's in-game currency ‘Robux' to bribe minors into sending sexually explicit images. If you've been following Hansen's investigation into Roblox, this is an episode you won't want to miss. *Video courtesy of the Florida Attorney General's Office Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we revisit a wonderful eTown show featuring musical guest, Kate Bollinger, a breathy singer whose music is charming and captivating. Also featured this week is Matt Pond PA, comprised of Matt Pond and Chris Hansen, whose music is both poetic and heartfelt. And, Nick has a chat with Roger Briggs about his book, "Emerging World: The Evolution of Consciousness and the Future of Humanity" and the need for positive messaging.   That's all this week on eTown!    Visit our Youtube Channel to see artist interviews, live recordings, studio sessions, and more! Be a part of the audience at our next recording: https://www.etown.org/etown-hall/all-events/ Your support helps us bring concerts, tapings and conversations to audiences while fostering connection through music, ideas and community. If you'd like to support eTown's mission to educate, entertain and inspire a diverse audience through music and conversation, please consider a donation: https://www.etown.org/get-involved/donate-orig/.

Chris Hansen is a veteran investigative journalist and television host. He co-owns the true crime streaming network TruBlu, home to his documentary-style series TAKEDOWN WITH CHRIS HANSEN, with new episodes every Thursday exclusively at TruBlu.com. He also hosts the podcasts “Predators I've Caught with Chris Hansen” and “Have a Seat with Chris Hansen,” available wherever you get podcasts. Follow him on YouTube and Twitter @ChrisHansen.IN THE NEWS: New York City's incoming mayor makes headlines by appointing a transgender rabbi to his transition team's health committee, sparking debate on social media about representation in politics. Portland's annual tree lighting event drew outrage after organizers avoided calling it a “Christmas tree” and featured political activism and chants, fueling criticism over the city's handling of holiday traditions. In Manhattan, accused assassin Luigi Mangione appeared in court for a critical pretrial hearing to a crowd of vocal supporters and heightened media attention. Finally, Paramore's Hayley Williams takes a public stand, declaring that racist and anti-trans fans are not welcome at her shows.Get it on.Subscribe to The Adam Carolla Show on Substack: https://adamcarolla.substack.com/FOR MORE WITH CHRIS HANSEN:NETWORK: TruBlu - True Crime TV Network co-owned by Chris Hansen go to TruBlu.com SHOW: TAKEDOWN WITH CHRIS HANSEN on TruBlu PODCAST: ‘Predators I've Caught with Chris Hansen' + ‘Have a Seat with Chris Hansen'YOUTUBE & TWITTER: @ChrisHansenFOR MORE WITH ELISHA KRAUSS: INSTAGRAM: @elishakraussWEBSITE: elishakrauss.com JOURNAL: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/author/elisha-krauss/LIVE SHOWS: December 5 - Santa Barbara, CADecember 6 - Corona, CA w/ Jay MohrDecember 11 - Fort Lauderdale, FLDecember 12 - Miami, FL (2 shows)December 13 - Miami, FL (2 shows)December 14 - Fort Lauderdale, FLThank you for supporting our sponsors:BetOnlineAura Frames: Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/CAROLLA. Promo Code CAROLLAGet $10 Off @BRUNT with code Adam at https://www.bruntworkwear.com/Adam #BRUNTpodLive Better Longer with BUBS Naturals. For A limited time get 20% Off your entire order with code Adam at Bubsnaturals.comDRA.comGo to https://hometitlelock.com/adamcarolla and use promo code ADAM to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warrantyoreillyauto.com/ADAMPluto.tvSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

“My penis don't work right." John Blake Creamer is a predator that was caught in a Blount County, Alabama investigation of Takedown with Chris Hansen. He is notable for having shot himself in his penis.  At the time of the sting, Creamer had been living in or near Hanceville, Alabama. Creamer had four children between two and eight years old from two different women. He worked as a brick mason. Creamer was once married but divorced because he found out his wife had been cheating on him for three years while he was in prison. He said that he found another man in his bed after being released. Creamer had been communicating with a decoy posing as a fifteen-year-old girl. He called the decoy before texting her. Creamer arrived to the sting house wearing stained and dirty blue jeans and a T-shirt, which Chris described as his "fancy, go-to-court clothes." Creamer maintained that he did not believe that the girl was a minor. Before being led out of the house and to the jail, Creamer announced to everyone present that he could not possibly have sex with a child because he had been shot in his penis with a .380 caliber gun firing full-metal jacket bullets. He told everyone that his penis "don't work right." Creamer offered to show his penis to Chris. Chris refused, but Creamer assured him that it was "all sewed back on" because the entire penis had been shot off. Chris, wanting to clarify, asked if someone had shot him in his penis. Creamer responded, "Yes sir. Actually, I was cleaning my gun and it misfired." Sponsored by: TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty  Get your official Have A Seat merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode of Have a Seat, Chris Hansen is joined by former Philadelphia Prosecutor Guy D'Andrea who reviewed and consulted on the 2011 death of beloved teacher, Ellen Greenberg. Despite being stabbed over 20 times in the chest, neck and back of her head inside her own apartment, authorities have still ruled her death a suicide. Now the Co-Managing Partner at Laffey Bucci D'Andrea Reich& Ryan, D'Andrea and Hansen breakdown the evidence, or lack there of, that all signs point to homicide and discuss how someone might just have gotten away with the murder of Ellen Greenberg.  Photos provided by the Greenberg Family. This episode is brought to you in part by Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"I told them pacifically... that thank God... that y'all was the cops. Because I woulda been callin' the cops." ―One of John Hunter's nonsense statements. John Wesley Hunter is a predator caught in a Polk County, Florida investigation of Takedown with Chris Hansen. He is notable for his various excuses that make no sense.  At the time of the sting, Hunter lived in Davenport, Florida and worked for Budget Auto Parts as a mechanic and a contractor for the Polk County Sheriff's Office to fix it's cars. He was also a self-proclaimed "traveling cowboy."  Hunter answered an ad for "family fun" and talked with a decoy posing as a mom to a fourteen-year-old girl. The decoy was run by the Polk County Sheriff's Office as a part of its Operation Cyber Guardian II. Hunter asked the decoy how old her daughter was, to which the decoy said that her daughter was fourteen and "loves family time" (a euphemism for incestual sex). Hunter replied, "That's awesome." Hunter expressed that he might want to have sex with the both of them but asked the mother if she would be willing to be naked while she watched him rape her daughter. Hunter arrived at the hotel used for the sting. Police entered the hallway and pointed a gun at him for several seconds.  He was taken to the police station and attempted to hide his face from the cameras. That is until Chris walked in the interview room with an entire camera crew. Hunter protested, saying that he "ain't doin no cameras." Sponsored by: TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators  OneSkin daily face moisturizer: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code HANSEN at https://www.oneskin.co/HANSEN #oneskinpod  Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty  Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this episode, Chris Hansen has a seat with famed defense attorney Mark Geragos to discuss the latest and headline grabbing cases everyone is talking about.  Criminal defense attorney and managing partner of the law firm Geragos & Geragos, Mark Geragos solidified his place in mainstream media and high-profile criminal cases while representing notable clients such as Winona Ryder, Michael Jackson, Scott Peterson, Chris Brown, Colin Kaepernick, the Menendez Brothers, and Jussie Smollett.  Hansen & Geragos dive into the new Epstein releases, Sean ‘Diddy' Combs' sentence and life in prison, updates on the Menendez brothers Lyle and Erik, the indictments of Leticia James and former FBI Director, James Coney, and discuss theories on missing 9-year-old Melodee Buzzard out of Santa Barbara, California.  This episode is sponsored by: Dupe: Go to https://Dupe.com today and make your holiday shopping so much easier. It's 100% free to use. Stop overspending on gifts and start saving big this holiday season with Dupe.com. Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/chrishansen and use promo code HANSEN to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nelson Louis — The Hotel Key Sting Chris breaks down the case of Nelson Louis, a Tampa man who showed up at a Polk County hotel after negotiating with someone he believed was a foster mother selling her fifteen-year-old daughter. Despite knowing the girl's age and fearing a setup, Louis handed the decoy $100 in the lobby and accepted the key to the room—where deputies immediately arrested him.  In the interview, Louis backpedals with confusion and shifting stories, but Chris cuts through every excuse, exposing a man who walked straight into the sting he claimed to fear. Sponsored by: TruthFinder.com. To get the answers you're looking for about the new people in your life, and to discover information on potential predators, go to www.TruthFinder.com/predators Get your official Chris Hansen merchandise at https://haveaseat.dashery.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices