Podcast appearances and mentions of Jonathan Wilson

We're back in the Labyrinth this week and kicking things off with Season 14 of King of the Hill! The gang dives into the revival's first episodes — the callbacks, the cameos, the feels — and whether the Netflix run still has that old network sitcom soul. Plus, we ask the big question: if you could update any classic show with the characters aged up, what would you pick? We've got ideas for The Sopranos, Married… with Children, The Larry Sanders Show, Freaks and Geeks, and more. In this episode, we also remember and dedicate the show to our dear friend and longtime listener Jeff Lisle — a kind, funny, and truly great man who will be missed dearly. Our thoughts are with his family.

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In Part Two of our series on Don Revie's Leeds United, co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson explore the origins of the 'Dirty Leeds' tag. This episode delves into the notorious 1964 match against Everton that cemented the club's aggressive reputation. It discusses the reactions from fans and media, the role of football associations, and Revie's responses. Our conclusion also examines the cultural and tactical shifts in football during the 1960s and how Leeds' image became a point of controversy and unity for the team and its supporters. Tune in to uncover the complexities behind one of football's most infamous labels.Please remember to share, rate, review and comment to help It Was What It Was grow.00:00 Introduction 01:36 The Dirty Leeds Tag03:46 Don Revy's Management Style27:43 Promotion and the Great Moral Panic29:21 The Notorious Game against Everton at Goodison30:37 Media and Public Perception31:47 Football's Changing Landscape33:04 The Birth of 'Dirty Leeds'41:30 Revie's Reaction and Amplification56:04 Conclusion and Legacy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On today's program, Michael Rogers talks with Jonathan Wilson, regional representative for DTE, about 811 Day in Michigan (Aug. 11) and how important it is to comply with essential safety procedures, such as calling 811 before digging and what to do in case of a natural gas leak. Wilson also discusses the operational risks of non-compliance with MISS DIG requirements, and DTE's role in educating customers and improving excavation safety standards.  The Small Business Association of Michigan is the only statewide and state-based association that focuses solely on serving the needs of Michigan's small business community. We have been successfully serving small businesses like yours in all 83 counties of Michigan since 1969. We're located in Lansing, just one block from the Capitol. Our mission is to help Michigan small businesses succeed by promoting entrepreneurship, leveraging buying power and engaging in political advocacy. When small businesses band together through the Small Business Association of Michigan, they achieve more than they could on their own.  Our 32,000 members are as diverse as Michigan's economy. From accountants to appliance stores, manufacturers to medical, and restaurants to retailers, what unites the SBAM membership is the spirit of entrepreneurship…a spirit that drove you to start and continue to operate your own business because you believe you can do something better than anyone else is doing it! (music licensed from www.jukedeck.com)

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this episode, co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson discuss the significant impact of Don Revie on Leeds United and English football. The episode covers Revie's early career, his transition into management, and his influence on Leeds United. The narrative delves into the challenges Leeds faced before Revie's arrival, his innovative approaches, and the beginning of Leeds' transformation. This is the first part of a series exploring the legendary 'Dirty Leeds' era, their historical context, and whether they really were 'dirty' or just misunderstood. Join us for Part Two on Friday.00:00 Introduction01:03 The Controversial Reputation of Leeds United03:21 Historical Context of Leeds United04:26 The West Stand Fire and Financial Crisis06:42 Managerial Struggles and Relegation17:33 Don Revie's Appointment and Early Life26:08 Revie's Early Career and Influence of Smith28:34 Revie's Superstitions and Misfortunes35:37 Transition to Manchester City and the Revie Plan41:17 Billy Bremner's influence47:59 Revie's Managerial Beginnings at Leeds49:41 Conclusion and Teaser for the Part Two Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week in the Labyrinth, we're taking aim at Happy Gilmore 2—and not just to see if we still "got it." We're talking Easter Eggs, hilarious cameos, and what Netflix got right (and wrong) in their sequel to the cult favorite. Then it's back to South Park, which somehow manages to roast everyone, from liberals to Lucifer himself. We also say goodbye to three cultural icons:

Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper bring part two into the fascinating and tragic story of Red Star Belgrade's triumphant 1991 European Cup campaign. They discuss Red Star's status as underdogs against Bayern Munich in the semifinal, their intricate path to victory amidst the backdrop of Yugoslavia's impending civil war, and the dramatic events of the legendary matches. This episode highlights not just the team's achievements on the field, but also the historical, cultural, and political context that made their victory the last moment of unity for Yugoslav football before the nation's fragmentation. Additionally, the episode covers the aftermath of the war on Red Star and the once-great football culture of the region.00:00 Introduction03:18 Quarter-Final Against Dynamo Dresden04:43 Political Tensions and the Road to the Semi-Final08:36 The Complexities of Yugoslavia's Ethnic Divisions12:36 The Semi-Final Against Bayern Munich21:13 The Dramatic Second Leg against Bayern Munich35:43 The Aftermath and Celebrations36:16 Final against Marseille 44:13 Post-Match Reflections and Legacy49:43 Impact of War on Red Star Belgrade53:48 Croatian Football's Success56:59 Conclusion Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson explore the history of Red Star Belgrade, focusing on their monumental 1991 European Cup win against a backdrop of Yugoslavia's political turmoil and impending civil war. This episode explores the club's founding, cultural significance, and key players, including the dramatic escape of Miodrag Belodedici from Romania. They also detail the influence of notorious figures like Arkan and the emotional scenes in Belgrade during this turbulent time. Part Two will release on Friday.00:00 Introduction 06:19 Political Tensions and Football09:31 The Riot at Maksimir Stadium16:36 Arkan's Criminal Background25:04 Arkan's Bonkers Wedding and Return to War27:23 The Rise and Fall of Arkan29:39 Red Star Belgrade: Historical Context and Formation31:13 The Intellectual and Working-Class Roots of Red Star36:24 Red Star's European Struggles and Triumphs39:52 The Escape and Signing of Miodrag Belodedici44:32 The 1991 Season and Key Changes47:48 Conclusion and Teaser for Part Two Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, we welcome a very special guest into the Labyrinth: the brilliantly funny, razor-sharp, and endlessly insightful Frank Santopadre! Frank's name may not be as well known as some of the legends he's worked with, but you've definitely laughed at something he's written. From MAD Magazine to The View, from Topps trading cards to the Kennedy Center Honors, Frank has spent his career writing for—and about—the biggest names in comedy, entertainment, and old-school showbiz. He was the longtime co-creator and co-host of Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast, a true oral history of Hollywood's golden age. Now, Frank returns with a brand-new podcast: Fun For All Ages, a nostalgia-fueled celebration of 20th-century pop culture—from classic toys and cartoons to the stars and stories behind the screen. In this episode, we talk with Frank about: * The origins and legacy of the Amazing Colossal Podcast * What he learned from working with Gilbert Gottfried * His encyclopedic love of TV credits, novelty candy, and forgotten pop culture gems * His new show Fun For All Ages, and what makes it special for anyone who grew up glued to the tube * It's a funny, fascinating, and heartfelt chat with a guy who's truly been there, written that, and still keeps the spirit of vintage entertainment alive.

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this episode, co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson bring their second and final part of their series on the Death Match, one of the most mythologized football games of all time. Occurring in Nazi-occupied Kyiv, Ukraine, this match between Start, a team formed mostly of former Dinamo Kiev players, and Flakelf, a Luftwaffe team, has become a symbol of resistance. The hosts discuss the brutal context of the occupation, the complex legacies of the players, and the role football played in these extraordinary historical circumstances. Jonathan Wilson critically examines how much of the narrative is based on verifiable facts and how much may have been post-war Soviet propaganda. This episode provides a nuanced understanding of how football intersected with geopolitics, resistance, and national identity during one of history's darkest periods.00:00 Introduction to the Death Match Series01:27 Historical Context: Nazi Occupation and Football02:26 The Rise of Team Start03:07 Early Matches and Growing Tensions04:21 Embarrassing Defeats for Axis Teams05:28 Public Perception and Propaganda06:29 The Turning Point: German Concerns14:13 The First Clash with Flakelf18:05 Setting the Stage for the Death Match26:06 The Referee's Influence and Game Dynamics27:10 Halftime Tensions and Orders to Lose28:39 Second Half and Controversial Moments32:35 Post-Match Arrests and Interrogations35:50 Life in the Prison Camp43:10 Escape and Kyiv's Liberation44:33 Legacy and Mythology of the Death Match Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the harrowing tale of 'The Death Match,' a match played under Nazi occupation in Ukraine. They explore the brutal conditions faced by Ukrainian footballers, the formation of a remarkable team, and the resonances with modern-day conflicts. In Part One, learn how football resurfaced amidst atrocities, with bakery manager Yosyp Kordyk forming a team from former stars. The discussions cover the political intricacies and personal tragedies, setting the stage for the match itself.Join us for Part Two on Friday, where the details of the game itself and its far-reaching consequences are revealed.00:00 Introduction to the Yard Brigade00:26 Welcome to the Podcast00:53 The Mythologized Football Match02:44 Escape to Victory and Its Origins04:16 Introducing Joseph Cordick05:49 The Nazi Occupation of Kiev07:37 The Struggles of Mik Trivi14:21 The Fall of Kiev and Its Aftermath25:51 Ukrainian Nationalism and Football Under Nazi Occupation27:34 The Horrors of Nazi Occupation in Kyiv29:43 Football as a Means of Normalization30:32 Resistance and Brutality in Kyiv31:30 Formation of the Start Football Team33:06 The Struggles and Symbolism of Playing Football37:16 The First Match and Its Consequences39:09 The Complexities of Resistance and Collaboration49:14 The Aftermath and Public Perception51:07 Conclusion and Teaser for Part Two Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Max Rushden is joined by Lucy Ward, Jonathan Wilson and Philippe Auclair as the Euro 2025 semi-finals are decided and Manchester United try to move on unwanted players. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/footballweeklypod

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Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast hosted by Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson.Today we bring you the fascinating story of the El Dorado League in 1940s Colombia. Discover how the government, amid a brutal civil war and the assassination of liberal leader Jorge Eliécer Gaitán, turned to football to pacify an unsettled population. Learn about the league's extraordinary formation, iconic players like Alfredo Di Stefano and Adolfo Pedernera, and the league's ultimate collapse. Join us for an in-depth look at an astonishing chapter in football history and its lasting impact.00:00 The Role of Football in Political Control01:43 The Assassination of Jorge Eliécer Gaitán03:33 The Aftermath and Civil Unrest14:12 The Rise of the El Dorado League22:51 The Impact of Global Events on Colombian Football29:29 Player Transfers and Union Arguments30:36 Colombian Football's Golden Era Begins32:30 The Arrival of International Stars34:59 Challenges and Discontent Among Players38:32 The Decline of the El Dorado League50:00 Political Turmoil and Football's Role54:54 Legacy and Modern Parallels Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. After Chelsea's Club World Cup win at the weekend, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by author Nick Purewal, who discusses his book Sanctioned: The Inside Story of the Sale of Chelsea FC about the sanctioning of Roman Abramovich and the sale of Chelsea FC. Here we give a unique insight into the unprecedented chaos surrounding Chelsea during their 2022 sale, including behind-the-scenes details of Abramovich's involvement in peace talks between Russia and Ukraine, a near-poisoning event, and the tumultuous sale process of the club that led to current owner Todd Boehly buying the club. 00:00 Introduction 04:51 Abramovich's Role and the War's Impact07:35 The Rapid Downfall and Sanctions16:04 Abramovich's Involvement in Peace Talks19:28 The Poisoning Incident26:10 Skepticism and Vindication29:52 Legal Confusion and Government Challenges31:47 Chelsea's Struggles Under Sanctions35:23 The High-Stakes Sale Process38:48 The Bidding War Heats Up44:26 Jim Ratcliffe's Last-Minute Bid50:10 The Aftermath and Reflections Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

SUBSCRIBE TO IMPOSSIBLE WAY OF LIFE ON PATREON TO ACCESS FULL EPISODEhttps://www.patreon.com/animpossiblewayoflifeAnd… we're back, baby — with a podcast for the ages and a hangover full of tone. After a week holed up in the holy madness of Jonathan Wilson's Topanga ashram—equal parts studio, shrine, and psychedelic nerve center—we did what any self-respecting rock 'n' roll pilgrims would do: we rolled tape, spilled our guts, and chased the muse straight into the canyon.It's the debrief, the breakdown, the smoke curling off the last take. We love you, Jonathan. You beautiful wizard freak.

We're back in the Labyrinth this week and taking flight with James Gunn's Superman (2025)! With the Man of Steel soaring back into theaters, we revisit the legendary lineup of Superman actors, TV shows, movies, villains, and more. Who wore the cape best? Who made us believe a man could fly? And just how many times can Lex Luthor escape prison?

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In a week where we marked our 100th episode, we bring you the quiz between our podcast It Was What It Was against Football Cliches.Without co-host Rob Draper, It Was What It Was brought in John Brewin alongside producer Pat Moore to join Jonathan Wilson in an epic battle against Football Cliches' Adam Hurrey, Charlie Eccleshare and David Walker.Three rounds, five questions in each round and a final round of Premier League hunting grounds, in a classic battle for the ages!If you enjoyed the podcast you can find Football Cliches episodes here: https://podfollow.com/new-football-clichesPlease note: This episode was released by our opponents in February 2025.Please do review, comment and subscribe to It Was What It Was. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. To mark our 100th episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper revisit one of the game's true pioneers: Herbert Chapman. Long before his Arsenal legacy, Chapman transformed Huddersfield Town in the 1920s, laying the groundwork for modern football and guiding them to become the first club to win three consecutive top-flight league titles.A century later, Jonathan and Rob delve into the tactical innovations, strategic thinking, and leadership that defined Chapman's revolutionary approach. This episode brings Huddersfield's golden era to life—and shows how Chapman's influence still echoes through the game today, both on and off the pitch.00:00 Introduction and Milestone Celebration01:13 Herbert Chapman's Early Life and Career03:31 Chapman's Tactical Innovations11:19 Leeds City and Wartime Contributions22:07 Post-War Challenges and Huddersfield Opportunity27:44 Brighton's Replay and the Stuffed Donkey Incident28:49 The Controversial FA Cup Final30:33 Chapman's Tactical Innovations34:00 Huddersfield's Rise to Glory41:52 The Closest Title Race Ever?46:32 Chapman's Legacy and Move to Arsenal48:33 Conclusion and Reflections on Chapman's Impact Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Max Rushden is joined by Barry Glendenning, Jonathan Wilson and Mark Langdon to pay tribute to Diogo Jota and Suzy Wrack joins from Zurich after England lose their opening game of Euro 2025. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/footballweeklypod

This week on Radio Labyrinth, we head back in time to revisit one of the most iconic films of all time. Released July 3, 1985, Back to the Future launched a trilogy that helped define a generation—and we're unpacking its legacy, the cast's careers, and why this Gen X touchstone still hits hard in 2025. Would Marty even travel to 1955 today... or maybe 1995? Dustin brings a Back to the Future Trivia Game packed with deep cuts—no softball questions here. Plus, we compare the epic Summer of ‘85 box office to the current Summer of ‘25 lineup and get nostalgic for DeLoreans, VHS tapes, and hoverboards.

Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.In the second and final episode of our exploration into Abu Dhabi's takeover of Manchester City, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper uncover the strategic, political, and historical forces behind one of the most transformative moves in modern football.Incorporating expert commentary from Dr. Chris Davison, author of Abu Dhabi: Oil and Beyond, this episode explores how a state-led investment in a football club became a powerful tool of international diplomacy. We trace the roots of Abu Dhabi's global ambitions back to the oil boom of the 1970s and '80s, the legacy of Sheikh Zayed's leadership, and the shifting political landscape following his death in 2004.We also examine the rise of Sheikh Mansour, the tightening grip of autocracy, and the human rights questions that shadow this high-stakes project. From geopolitics in the Arab world to influence across Africa and the Indian subcontinent.00:00 Introduction 01:30 The Foundation of UAE and Its Growth02:57 Sheikh Zayed's Vision and Leadership05:24 The Role of Women and Modernisation08:37 The Al Nahyan Family Dynamics12:47 The Manchester City Takeover15:39 The Impact and Strategy Behind the Takeover22:41 The Strategic Importance of Qatar and Abu Dhabi23:29 Human Rights Concerns in Abu Dhabi28:52 Worker Rights and Personal Accounts31:38 The Yemeni War and Foreign Policy34:59 Manchester City's Aggressive Strategy36:19 Comparing Strategies: Abu Dhabi vs. Qatar44:23 The Future of Manchester City46:29 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week, hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore the complex history behind the Abu Dhabi takeover of Manchester City. The discussion begins with a chilling recount of a 1984 assassination of UAE ambassador Khalifa Ahmad Mubarak, claimed by the Arab Revolutionary Brigades. This incident serves as a critical backdrop for understanding the motivations and geopolitical factors influencing contemporary Middle Eastern involvement in global sports. Jonathan and Rob look into the precarious position of Abu Dhabi, the history of the UAE's formation, and the significant figures like Khaldoon Al Barak and Sheikh Zed, shedding light on why Abu Dhabi has ventured into the world of football ownership and how this has reshaped not just Manchester City but football in general.Join us on Friday for Part Two.00:00 Tragic Assassination in Paris00:54 Introduction to the Podcast01:03 The Abu Dhabi Takeover of Manchester City03:21 Comparing Abramovich and Sheik Mansour04:29 The Shock of the 2008 Takeover05:09 The Initial Skepticism and Rabino Signing07:21 The Role of Solomon Al Faim09:26 The Importance of Kaldoon Al Mubarak15:41 The Aggressive Approach to Regulation22:34 Massacre at Saia and Its Impact24:25 Khaldoon Al Mubarak's Background27:19 Transformation of Abu Dhabi32:23 Discovery of Oil and Its Implications43:19 Formation of the United Arab Emirates44:50 Challenges from Regional Powers45:56 Conclusion and Teaser for Part Two Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week in the Labyrinth, Tim bids farewell to a true Gen X radio hero — the legendary Doctor Demento. We take a fun, nostalgic dive into the history of the Dr. Demento Show, its influence on weird comedy, novelty songs, and how it helped shape our taste in the hilariously absurd. From “Disco Duck” to Weird Al, we dig into our favorite novelty records and talk about why that kind of musical madness has all but vanished today. Plus, Jeff and Tim recount a recent run-in with a table full of loudmouths at a comedy show and lay down the law on comedy club etiquette. When is it okay to talk at a show? (Spoiler: Never.)

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper bring a two-part special focussing on the decline of one of the greatest footballers ever, Diego Maradona.In part one, our co-hosts talk about Maradona's struggles with drug addiction, failed drug tests, and his eventual 15-month ban from football after a positive cocaine test in 1991. Despite these challenges, Maradona's impact on both the Napoli and Argentina national teams remained significant. Discover the infamous 5-0 defeat of Argentina by Colombia in 1993 and explore why the nation clamoured for Maradona's return to save their 1994 World Cup hopes. The episode provides a comprehensive look at Maradona's turbulent years leading up to his attempts at making a comeback.Join us on Friday for Part Two.00:00 Introduction and Context00:30 The Decline of Diego Maradona02:01 The Infamous Argentina vs. Colombia Match04:57 The Fallout and National Disgrace10:48 Maradona's Cultural Significance16:04 Maradona's Turbulent Life in Naples23:51 Maradona's Decline and Struggles with Fitness25:19 Cocaine Scandal and Legal Troubles26:53 The Fake Penis Incident and Drug Test30:53 Maradona's Radical Detox and Support System34:17 Political Context and Maradona's Popularity39:52 Return to Football and Move to Sevilla44:04 Struggles in Sevilla and Final Decline47:52 Personal Breakdown and Return to Roots Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We are thrilled to bring you the next installment of The Huddle Breakdown Interview with renowned football journalist, Jonathan Wilson.The interview covers a lot ground including:• The Lisbon Lions and their historic importance in the evolution of football tactics• His experience of Celtic in Seville• When did things go wrong for Scottish football• Wealth disparity in football• The future of football journalismJonathan has written for The Independent, FourFourTwo magazine and The Sunday Telegraph and Sports Illustrated, and was football correspondent for the Financial Times from 2002 to 2006. He writes for The Guardian and UnHerd and is a columnist for World Soccer.In 2011 he founded the quarterly football journal The Blizzard, which he edits.His book, Inverting the Pyramid was shortlisted for the William Hill Sports Book of the Year in 2008, and won 'Best Football Book' at the British Sports Book Awards in 2009. Nine of his other books have also been shortlisted for the award. Inverting the Pyramid also won the Premio Antonio Ghirelli and was shortlisted for the German football book of the year award.His book, Angels with Dirty Faces, which covered the history of football in Argentina, won "Best Football Book" and "Best Historical Book" at the Polish Sports Book Awards (Sportowa Książka Roku) in 2018. The Names Heard Long Ago won "Best Foreign Football Book" at the awards in 2023.He won FSA Football Writer of the Year in 2012, 2017, 2021 and 2024.He currently writes at his Substack, Wilson's World and co-hosts the Libero and It Was What It Was podcasts. Want to support the channel? - https://huddlebreakdown.comLike this video and want more content like it? Subscribe to the channel below and hit the bell to get notified every time a new video goes live. Follow us on Twitter: @huddlebreakdown@Alan_Morrison67 @jucojames Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. With the Club World Cup underway, we wrap up the week with Part Two of our Origin Story series, focusing on Manchester United's chaotic 2000 Club World Cup campaign in Brazil.Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper unpack United's controversial decision to withdraw from the FA Cup, the disorganised nature of the tournament, and the fiery clash between European entitlement and South American intensity. Plus, we'll hear about the now-legendary story of Roy Keane, Teddy Sheringham, and Nicky Butt hang gliding over Rio - doing their best to stay out of sight of Sir Alex Ferguson!If you're enjoying It Was What It Was, please hit subscribe to never miss an episode, and consider leaving us a five-star review to help others discover the show. Thank you for listening!And don't forget to subscribe to our new show Stick to Cricket, wherever you get your podcasts!00:00 English Expectations and Brazilian Strength00:48 Introduction to the Double History Podcast00:58 The Infamous 2000 Club World Cup02:01 FIFA's Ambitions and the Club World Cup03:36 The Controversial Decision: Manchester United's Dilemma04:27 Global Participation and FIFA's Motivations07:09 Political Pressures and England's World Cup Bid22:09 Manchester United's PR Disaster in Brazil25:18 The Tournament Begins: Double Header in Sao Paulo26:17 The Shabby Stadium and Initial Matches27:16 David Beckham's Red Card Incident28:22 United's Aloof Image and Public Relations Disaster29:26 Tournament Progress and Group Stage Results30:07 Vasco's Dominance Over Manchester United33:11 Gary Neville's Struggles and Team Support38:37 United's PR Disaster in Rio40:13 Impact on United's Season and Future Tournaments42:06 Reflections on the Club World Cup50:43 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're back in the Labyrinth this week, and Tim's Q-Tip injury isn't the only thing causing discomfort. We pay tribute to the legendary Brian Wilson and Sly Stone, while Tim breaks down the Big Beautiful Breakup between the President and his favorite tech bro. Plus, Kash Patel drops by Joe Rogan to badly attempt the worst cover-up since Watergate — and we're here for the cringe. Lizzie has the latest updates on Diddy's legal saga, and we run through another round of Views or Snooze? with fresh trailers and upcoming shows. Text Impressions brings Kamala Harris into the mix, and our Staff Picks this week include The Sandlot, Lifeforce, Not a Box and more!

Please note: Apologies for the audio issues in the first 10 minutes of the show.Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast, with co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson. Today we are joined by special guest David Owen, former sports editor of the Financial Times and author of multiple books on sports history. In this episode, the trio delves deep into the significant alteration of the offside rule on June 13, 1925, and how this monumental change impacted football. From the tactical transformations it spurred, like the introduction of the WM formation and the rise of the centre half role, to its broader effects on the game's entertainment value and popularity, the discussion covers it all.Join us as we explore one of the most pivotal adjustments in football history and its lasting legacy.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:08 The 1925 Offside Rule Change02:21 Historical Context of Offside Rule02:55 Early 20th Century Offside Tactics05:01 Impact of the 1925 Rule Change12:27 Adaptations and Innovations19:04 Immediate Effects in England26:03 Notable Goal Scoring Feats27:42 Astonishing Cup Run and Relegation Drama29:05 Impact of the 1925 Offside Law Change32:03 Defensive Strategies and Adaptations34:15 Tactical Innovations and the WM Formation42:04 Evolution of Player Roles and Transfer Market53:32 Global Differences and Final Thoughts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.In today's episode, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore one of the most powerful stories in football history: Zambia's remarkable triumph at the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations.Jonathan, who covered the 2012 tournament on the ground, shares firsthand reflections of what he calls the most emotional press box moment he's ever experienced. Nineteen years after a devastating plane crash claimed the lives of their national squad, Zambia rose from the ashes to claim continental glory. This episode retraces their journey - from the tragedy off the coast of Gabon in 1993, the rebuilding efforts led by legendary captain Kalusha Bwalya, right through to their unforgettable victory on penalties in the very same country that witnessed their darkest hour.00:00 The Final Match: A Battle Beyond the Pitch00:15 Introduction to an Inspiring and Tragic Football Story00:36 Zambia's Uplifting Victory After Tragedy02:26 The 1993 Plane Crash: A National Tragedy04:37 Zambia's Football Rise in the Late 80s08:15 The Aftermath of the Crash and the Struggle for Resources18:42 Rebuilding the Team: The Role of Kaia and New Coaches24:01 The 2012 African Cup of Nations Journey25:06 The Quarterfinals and Beyond27:01 Gabon vs. Mali: A Penalty Heartbreak27:30 Unexpected Journey to Bata31:12 Ghana's Complacency and Zambia's Rise38:38 The Emotional Beach Ceremony40:27 The Dramatic Final Against Ivory Coast51:10 Zambia's Historic Victory52:16 Reflecting on the Significance Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're back in the Labyrinth this week, and things get weird. We kick things off with the shocking and controversial death of King of the Hill voice actor Jonathan Joss — was it a hate crime or just a tragic dispute? The revival of King of the Hill is right around the corner, and we break down everything we know about the new season (yes, including that new intro... and no, Tim is not allowed to make the ‘cha' noise).

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Today, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore the remarkable life and career of Luis Enrique, fresh off delivering Paris Saint-Germain's first-ever Champions League title.From leading Barcelona to a historic treble in 2015 to now rewriting PSG's narrative in Europe, Enrique's managerial legacy is already carved into footballing folklore. But behind the silverware lies a deeply personal story; one of resilience, heartbreak, and unshakable determination.In 2019, Enrique stepped away from football during his time as Spain's national team coach after the tragic death of his 9-year-old daughter, Xana, who lost her battle with bone cancer. The podcast reflects on how he faced unimaginable grief and later returned to the sidelines with a renewed sense of focus, channeling his pain into purpose.We also explore the lesser-known side of Enrique — the ultramarathon runner, the iron-willed competitor, and the fitness fanatic who demanded relentless physical commitment from his players. His obsession with endurance has shaped not only the way his teams play but also the culture he instills: high pressing, relentless movement, and mental toughness.Where does Luis Enrique's legacy stand now? From Gijón to Camp Nou to Paris, and from personal tragedy to professional triumph — this is a story of more than just football. It's about the making of a modern great.0:00 Introduction and Personal Reflection00:32 Luis Enrique's Early Life and Background04:15 Football Beginnings and Early Career07:03 Transition to Real Madrid and Barcelona16:06 International Career and Notable Incidents22:52 Post-Playing Career and Coaching Beginnings29:07 Luis Enrique's Coaching Journey31:01 Barcelona's Missed Opportunity with Luis Enrique32:36 Luis Enrique's Success at Celta Vigo32:49 Barcelona's Second Chance with Luis Enrique35:41 The Messi Conundrum37:54 Luis Enrique's Triumphs and Challenges at Barcelona44:53 The Tragic Loss of Luis Enrique's Daughter47:15 Return to the Spanish National Team52:26 Luis Enrique's Tenure at PSG01:00:36 The Emotional Impact of Luis Enrique's Journey01:02:41 Conclusion and Reflections Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Benmont Tench, founding keyboard player from Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, returns to our program to talk about his recently released second solo album, The Melancholy Season, in stores now from Dark Horse Records. He shares what he has learned about making records from his various producers from Denny Cordell, Jimmy Iovine, Rick Rubin, and Glyn Johns, to his recent sessions with Jonathan Wilson. Along the way, Tench reveals intimate details of recovery and healing, and of his development as a songwriter in the shadow of esteemed colleagues such as Petty and Mike Campbell, and in sessions with Bob Dylan, John Prine, Johnny Cash and others. Tench's unbridled appreciation for music, poetry, love, and life itself radiates throughout this very special conversation. The Record Store Day Podcast is a weekly music chat show written, produced, engineered and hosted by Paul Myers, who also composed the theme music and selected interstitial music.  Executive Producers (for Record Store Day) Michael Kurtz and Carrie Colliton. For the most up-to-date news about all things RSD, visit RecordStoreDay.com   Please consider subscribing to our podcast wherever you get podcasts, and tell your friends, we're here every week and we love making new friends.

Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This week, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore a landmark moment in the sport: Brazil, for the first time in its storied history, has appointed a sole foreign manager, Carlo Ancelotti.As he prepares to lead the Seleção in his first match on Friday against Ecuador, the episode unpacks the significance of his move to Brazil.They examine Ancelotti's coaching philosophy, tracing its roots to his mentor Nils Liedholm and the enduring influence of Hungarian football. The conversation spans decades and continents—from the intellectual cafés of Budapest to the shifting tactical landscape of South America. Along the way, they reflect on the evolution of Brazilian coaching and the global reach of Hungarian tactical innovation.Join them for a compelling look at the past, present, and future of football strategy, and discover how Ancelotti's arrival in Brazil could be a return to their roots.00:00 Introduction and Personal Anecdotes00:37 Historic Day for Brazil: Foreign Manager Appointed01:15 Carlo Ancelotti's Coaching Philosophy01:55 Brazil's Foreign Coaching History04:56 The Dominance of Argentinian Coaches in South America06:04 Brazilian Football's Tactical Evolution10:30 Hungarian Influence on Brazilian Football20:56 Brazil's World Cup Preparations and Challenges26:13 Brazil's Struggles Against European Teams27:49 Modern Era: Brazil's Coaching Crisis29:11 Analysing the Decline of Brazilian Football30:01 The Influence of European Coaching30:22 The Role of Brazilian Midfielders30:37 Recent Brazilian Coaches and Their Struggles31:38 The Turning Point: Italy 198232:10 Introduction to Carlo Ancelotti's Appointment32:49 Carlo Ancelotti's Mentorship and Legacy35:27 The Hungarian Influence on Modern Football38:33 The Swedish Connection and Coaching Philosophy40:22 The Rise of IFK Norrköping48:28 The Formation of the Gre-No-Li Trio51:27 Carlo Ancelotti's Impact on Brazilian Football55:12 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Max Rushden is joined by Barry Glendenning, Nicky Bandini and Jonathan Wilson as PSG win their first European Cup with an emphatic 5-0 win over Inter. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/footballweeklypod

Everyone's back in the Labyrinth and this week we're diving headfirst into the bittersweet brilliance of Pee-wee As Himself, the new Paul Reubens documentary. From his private struggles to his unmatched creative genius, we're celebrating the life and legacy of a man who was always more than just Pee-wee Herman. Also: Presidential pardons are flying faster than subpoenas—so who's next on Trump's forgiveness tour?

Welcome to this Champions League special episode of It Was What It Was with hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson. In this episode, they dive deep into the rich tactical history of Inter Milan, tracing the origins and impact of the famous Catenaccio system introduced by legendary coach Helenio Herrera in the 1960s. They explore Herrera's significant influence on modern football management, his controversial methods, and the eventual decline of his tactical system. Additionally, the hosts draw parallels between Herrera's era and Inter Milan's current approach under Simone Inzaghi, highlighting how historical tactics still resonate today as they face PSG inJoin us at the end of the week as we turn our attention to PSG's history, as they look to win the Champions League for the first time.00:00 Introduction 00:19 Champions League Special: Setting the Scene00:34 Helena Herrera: The Tactical Genius01:56 The Birth of Catenaccio02:56 Karl Rappan and the Swiss Influence08:43 Catenaccio's Evolution in Italy13:31 The Rise of Inter Milan19:02 Herrera's Early Career and Philosophy27:31 Herrera's Impact at Barcelona29:54 Transition to Inter Milan30:07 Inter's Turbulent Coaching History30:39 Helenio Herrera's Arrival and Impact31:17 Herrera's Strict Regimen and Control34:55 Tactical Innovations and Success42:06 Controversies and Criticisms49:31 The Decline of Herrera's Inter56:50 Legacy and Modern Comparisons01:02:19 Conclusion and Upcoming Content Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Max Rushden is joined by Barry Glendenning, Jonathan Wilson, and Robyn Cowen to unpack the final day of the Premier League season. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/footballweeklypod

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Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. This, co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper focus on the 1984/85 season that changed English football, with Part One focussing on the numerous fan violence incidents then the tragedy of the Bradford fire as 56 fans lost their lives.Today, in part two, Tony Evans, former sports editor at The Times and author of 'Two Tribes' and 'Far Foreign Land' joins the show to talk about Heysel. In this episode, Tony Evans shares his harrowing experiences and poignant reflections on the Heysel Stadium disaster of 1985, when 39 football fans tragically lost their lives during the European Cup Final between Liverpool and Juventus. The discussion covers the chaotic events leading up to the disaster, the atmosphere in Brussels, and the aftermath, both immediate and long-term, for football and fan culture. Don't miss this in-depth exploration of one of the darkest days in football history.00:00 Introducing the Podcast and Special Guest Tony Evans02:15 Liverpool in 1985: A City and Club in Turmoil02:30 The Violent Year: Football and Social Unrest05:09 The Day of the Heysel Disaster: Personal Accounts07:46 Chaos in Brussels: The Build-Up to Tragedy16:57 The Collapse: Mismanagement and Miscommunication27:45 The Aftermath: Reactions and Reflections30:35 The Aftermath of the Tragedy31:43 Personal Recollections and Impact32:26 Documentary Insights and Victim Stories34:56 Chaos and Confusion at the Stadium38:25 The Decision to Continue the Game49:08 Reflections on Fan Behaviour and Consequences51:27 The Broader Context and Political Reactions53:48 Long-term Changes in Football Culture58:38 Concluding Thoughts on the Tragedy Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to It Was When It Was, the football history podcast. This week we're focussing on the 1984-85 footballing season - arguably the bleakest time in English football history - that changed the game forever.Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper begin the first of two episodes covering the violence, tragedy, and upheaval of this period and the wider context of football hooliganism in the first half, whilst the second half of part one pays tribute to the horrific Bradford Fire that claimed 56 lives 40 years ago. Explore gripping firsthand accounts, the reactions of key figures, and the societal and institutional issues that plagued the sport, leading to safety measures and ultimately, a transformation in football culture.Join us on Friday as we are joined by Tony Evans to talk about the Heysel tragedy that happened at the end of May in 1985.00:00 Introduction to the Podcast01:09 Reflecting on the 1984-85 Season02:47 The Bradford Fire Tragedy04:00 Football's Decrepit Stadiums06:31 Chelsea vs. Sunderland: Milk Cup Semi-Final Chaos12:36 Luton vs. Millwall: FA Cup Violence26:35 Birmingham vs. Leeds: Championship Decider Mayhem29:10 Fans Fight Back and Prolonged Chaos30:52 Medieval Fortress and Perimeter Fences31:59 Racism and Aggression in Football Culture33:15 Introduction to the Bradford Fire35:04 The Start of the Fire and Initial Reactions36:16 Rapid Escalation and Desperate Attempts to Escape38:20 Heartbreaking Personal Accounts and Immediate Aftermath47:16 Investigations and Controversies50:57 Negligence and Legal Consequences57:30 Broader Implications and Future Changes59:24 Conclusion and Preview of Next Episode Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're back in the Labyrinth this week with a fresh batch of pop culture chaos and comedic commentary!

From soul-stirring sounds to stadium rock and a Miami Beach announcement – this episode has it all! We have an insightful conversation with Luke Tyler Shelton, a captivating artist whose rock-and-roll blends the charm of the past with a modern sensibility. Discover how this Los Angeles native, with a sound shaped by a vibrant DIY scene and the production prowess of Shooter Jennings and Jonathan Wilson, crafts his unique blend of country-rock, folk-pop, and Southern soul. We discuss everything from his self-taught musicianship and high school jam band adventures to his recent Luck Reunion 2025 performance and touring alongside Joy Oladukun. Before that, we give our take on Shinedown's high-energy show in Nashville at Bridgestone Arena. And last but not least, we're excited to unveil NashBash: Art Week Kickoff, a Jrodconcerts Media event taking place at the iconic Miami Beach Bandshell on November 30th, featuring the amazing talents of Maggie Rose, Moon Taxi, Paul McDonald, and Jack Harris. Get ready for Art Week 2025 in style – tickets go live on May 15th at 10 am EST at www.nashbashmiami.com! _______ Support the Show: DUNKIN': Try Jamie's favorite Butter Pecan Iced Coffee at your local Dunkin'! Order in-store or order ahead of time on the Dunkin' app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Max Rushden is joined by Barry Glendenning, Jonathan Wilson and Dan Bardell as Chelsea secure a vital win over Liverpool in the race for Champions League football next season. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/footballweeklypod

This week in the Labyrinth: Katy Perry's questionable choreography has Lizzie scratching her head, Tim dives into Tim Heidecker's absurdist takedown of Kill Tony with Kill Timmy, and we look back (and forward?) at the first 100 days of the new Commander-in-Chief. Lizzie had no idea what Match Game was—so of course we hit her with a crash course in Gene Rayburn, '70s weirdness, and the newly announced reboot hosted by Martin Short. From the News Desk:

We're back in the Labyrinth for another packed episode with Tim, Jeff, Dustin, and Lizzie! This week, we dive into the Larry David vs. Bill Maher feud, Tim's struggle with Mr. Mistoffelees overload, and the conspiracy theories surrounding JD Vance and the Pope's death. Plus, Shaq has a bathroom mishap on live TV, and we react to that emotional Episode 2 of The Last of Us Season 2 (yes, that episode). From the news desk: we've got updates on the 28 Years Later trailer, the X-Files reboot, the Andor Season 2 buzz, King of the Hill's return, and a movie about Kool-Aid?! Lizzie covers the Shannon Sharpe story, Dustin talks about the fall of kayfabe, and Tim warns about UK scientists going full "Mr. Burns." We also read your YouTube comments, go through last week's polls, fire up some new Text Impressions, and of course hit you with Views or Snooze? and Staff Picks to get you through the weekend. Keep It Canon! Watch the YouTube version: https://youtu.be/9i9CVJ3QxYc ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ Hosts: Tim Andrews, Jeff Leiboff, Dustin Lollar and Lizzie Bruce Jones Audio Podcast & YouTube Video Edited by Dustin Lollar ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ✨ Support the Show: https://linktr.ee/RadioLabyrinth ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ SPONSORS: Atlanta Pizza & Gyro http://www.atlantapizzagyro.com/ https://www.facebook.com/atlpizza/ LDI REPROPRINTING OF ATHENS CALL 706-316-9366 OR EMAIL THEM AT ATHENS@LDILINE.COM ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ALL OF OUR RADIO PRODUCERS & PATRONS! Thanks to our Radio Labyrinth Producers: Jeff Peterson, Bryan Smith, Chelsey Smith, Jim Fortner, Brett Perkins, Terri Fuller, Chris Chandler, Tim Slaton, Mike Hall, Mike D, Matt Carter, John Allen & Robey Neeley.  And thank you to all of our awesome Patreon Patrons: Hemp Huntress, Tracy McCoy, Emily Warren, Buck Monterey, Randy Reeves, Robey Neeley, Robert Kerns, Wayne Blair, Sherrie Dougherty, Rusty Weinberg, Michael Einhaus, Mark Weilandt, Leslie Haynie, Kevin Stokes, Jesse Rusinski, Jeremy Truman, Jeff Peterson, Herb Lamb, Gwynne Ketcham, Denise Reynolds, David C Funk, Collin Omen, Christopher Doerr, Chris Weilandt, Chris Cosentino, Erick Malmstrom, Brian Jackson, Brennon Price, Andrew Mulazzi, Andrew Harbin, Amber Gilpatrick, Alan Barker, Aaron Roberts, Walt Murray PI, Sam Wells, Ryan Wilson, Lou Coniglio, Kevin Schwartz, Kevin Jackson, Gus Turner, Jim Fortner, Scott Augustine, Jonathan Wilson, Cynthia Hadaway, Tony Outlaw, Dave Benson,Jack G,Adam Lavezzo, Kyle Gorecki and Tom & Terri Kennedy!

Max Rushden is joined by Barry Glendenning, Barney Ronay and Jonathan Wilson as Aston Villa, Manchester City and Chelsea secure important wins in the race for the five Champions League spots. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/footballweeklypod

There's a new voice in the Labyrinth! This week we welcome our newest cohost, Lizzie Bruce Jones, and get to know her a bit better as she joins the chaos. We dive into the viral "Josie and the Pussycats go to Space" moment, aka the Blue Origin rocket launch, and how a group of billionaire women not-quite-making-it-to-space somehow broke the internet. Also on deck: Joe Rogan gets called out on his own show by a British journalist who says Rogan's platform is irresponsibly influential. Opinions fly. Plus:

Max Rushden is joined by Barry Glendenning, Jonathan Wilson and Dan Bardell as Liverpool move one step closer to the Premier League title with a 1-0 derby win over Everton. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/footballweeklypod