Podcast appearances and mentions of laurel canyon

Charles Manson did not begin as some desert demon watching the hippie dream from far away.He wanted in.This is Part 3 of my deep dive into David McGowan's Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream.In this episode, we move from the early dark rooms of Laurel Canyon into Hollywood, Cielo Drive, Dennis Wilson, Terry Melcher, The Beach Boys orbit, and Manson's failed attempt to become part of the music industry.Most people know the end of the Manson story: the murders, the trial, the photographs, the documentaries, and the way his name became attached to the symbolic death of the 1960s. What gets talked about less is how close he actually got to the same music world that was selling freedom, rebellion, youth, and California possibility to the rest of the country.Manson wrote songs.He wanted a record deal.He became close to Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys.He met Terry Melcher.He moved through the edges of the Hollywood and Laurel Canyon scene before the world knew him as the face of the nightmare.This episode is not about pretending every connection proves one giant conspiracy. Some of this is documented history, some of it is David McGowan's interpretation, and some of it is part of the larger pattern he is trying to map.The question underneath this part is simple:Was Manson really outside the hippie dream?Or had the nightmare already been invited inside?Website: https://idiotmystic.comBlog: https://idiotmystic.com/blogDiscord: https://discord.gg/dXKjhZrZmMInstagram: https://instagram.com/idiotmysticTikTok: https://tiktok.com/@idiotmystic

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The director of “Drugs as Weapons Against Us” is back with the follow-up, “CIA: Drugs R Us”, which begins with opium money financing the creation of Ivy League universities two hundred years ago, and ends with Cortney Love's role as a subversive with intelligence ties. From Lookout Mountain and Laurel Canyon in Los Angeles to the Tavistock Institute in London, the role LSD played in shaping society for the better part of a decade included the endorsements of the biggest names in the music industry. Most of them against their will.---Macroaggressionswww.Macroaggressions.ioMerch StoreLink Tree Video ChannelsRumble | YouTube | BrighteonActivist PostNewsletter Sign UpAudiobooksHypocrazyThe Octopus of Global ControlSupport Our SponsorsReplace Your Mortgage: www.WipeOutYourMortgageNow.comGround Luxe Grounding MatsC60 Power | Promo Code: MACROChemical Free Body | Promo Code: MACROWise Wolf Gold & SilverLegalShield: www.DontGetPushedAround.comChristian Yordanov's Health ProgramThe Dollar VigilanteNesa's Hemp | Promo Code: MACROAugason Farms

Kyle brings on Greg Hoey to tell the stories of the Hollywood Bandit and the 1997 North Hollywood shootout at the Bank of America on Laurel Canyon.Check out Greg Hoey on You Gonna Eat That Crust? And the Pizza Bones True Crime Podcasts.

Before Laurel Canyon became a myth, it was a room.This is Part 2 of my deep dive into David McGowan's Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream.In Part 1, we looked at Laurel Canyon from above: the military family backgrounds, Lookout Mountain, and the strange feeling that the official hippie dream had something sitting over it in the hills.In this episode, we go inside the rooms.This part gets into Vito Paulekas and the Freaks, the strange dancers and scene-makers who helped create the atmosphere around the early Los Angeles counterculture. These were not just random people in the crowd. They helped make the scene feel like something was happening before the public fully understood what the “hippie dream” even was.Then the story gets darker.We talk about Godo Paulekas, Kenneth Anger, Lucifer Rising, Bobby Beausoleil, occult film, performance, young runaways, unsafe rooms, and the question that keeps coming up throughout this whole series:What kind of freedom was this, and who was actually safe inside it?This episode covers:Vito PaulekasThe FreaksGodo PaulekasKenneth AngerLucifer RisingBobby BeausoleilLaurel CanyonThe Sunset StripThe early countercultureThe dark side of the hippie dreamThis series is not about pretending every connection proves one giant conspiracy. Some of this is documented history, some of it is David McGowan's interpretation, some of it is speculation, and some of it is just extremely weird.The goal is not paranoia.The goal is discernment.Website: https://idiotmystic.comBlog: https://idiotmystic.com/blogDiscord: https://discord.gg/dXKjhZrZmMInstagram: https://instagram.com/idiotmysticTikTok: https://tiktok.com/@idiotmystic

Diesmal beschäftigt sich Matussek mit dem, was wir gesunden Menschenverstand nennen, gegen den unsere Politik so unbekümmert verstößt, ob in der Klimafrage oder der Immigration oder dem „Kampf gegen rechts“. Was passiert, wenn diese Grundlage der Erkenntnis zur Disposition steht? Wie gehen wir um mit der Verbiegung des Rechts, der Sprache, den ideologischen Schleiern, die der Wirklichkeit umgehängt werden? Chesterton, der Apostel des gesunden Menschenverstandes, und seine Volten gegen den reinen Logiker, der in seinen Augen ein Wahnsinniger ist, weil er das Leben verengt. Ist der christliche Glaube vernünftig? Jakob van Hoddis und das „Weltende“, Gottfried Benn und sein Staunen über das Sanfte und das Gute, Bert Brechts Ratschlag an die Regierung, sich ein neues Volk zu wählen. Dazu die Künstlerkolonie im Laurel Canyon. Briefe und Youtuber zum Gespräch mit Thomas Berthold.

This is Part 1 of my deep dive into David McGowan's Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream.I kept seeing clips of Joe Rogan bringing up this book, and people started asking me what it was actually about. So instead of pretending I had a neat little opinion based on screenshots and vibes, I read it.This episode starts with the big picture: Laurel Canyon, the official hippie dream, the strange number of military-family backgrounds around the scene, and Lookout Mountain, the secret military film facility that sat above the same hills later mythologized as the birthplace of peace, love, folk rock, psychedelic rebellion, and the California counterculture.I'm not treating every connection in the book as proof of one giant master plan. Some of this is documented history, some of it is David McGowan's interpretation, some of it is speculation, and some of it is just so weird that even if you stay skeptical, you still have to sit with it for a second.This series is about the question underneath the book:What if the soundtrack of freedom was recorded inside a haunted house?Part 1 covers:Laurel CanyonDavid McGowanJoe Rogan's interest in the bookThe dark side of the hippie dreamMilitary families in the countercultureLookout Mountain LaboratoryHollywood, music, and covert powerThe beginning of the Laurel Canyon mythMore parts coming soon.Website: https://idiotmystic.comBlog: https://idiotmystic.com/blogDiscord: https://discord.gg/dXKjhZrZmMInstagram: https://instagram.com/idiotmysticTikTok: https://tiktok.com/@idiotmystic

Natural Child, desde Nashville, nos alegran el día con su álbum “Wooden” y esa reconstituyente receta de country rock, boogie, rock sureño, folk rock y la brisa de Laurel Canyon. No inventan nada nuevo pero su manejo de los ingredientes suena fresco y familiar 50 o 60 después de la edad dorada de la música de la que beben.Playlist;(sintonía) NATURAL CHILD “It’s been a long time” (Wooden)NATURAL CHILD “Smokin’ in the kitchen” (Wooden)NATURAL CHILD “There’s so many ways” (Wooden)NATURAL CHILD “Born lucky” (Wooden)NEIL YOUNG and THE CHROME HEARTS “Looking forward” (As times explodes; live)NEIL YOUNG and THE CHROME HEARTS “Vampire blues” (As times explodes; live)RICH HOPE “Looking for Lewis and Clark” (Live at the Anza Club)CARMY LOVE “You gotta understand”THE ROLLING STONES “Rough and twisted” (Foreign Tongues)JE’TEXAS “Love is teasin’” (Suit yourself)THE DESLONDES “I’m gone” (Don’t let it die vol.1)KIKI CAVAZOS “I’m gone” (Early mountain songs)LENNY KAYE “Solstice” (Goin’ local)Escuchar audio

Today, we dive into the strange history of Laurel Canyon and its connection to military operations. We'll also explore some other fascinating topics… WELCOME TO Camp!

Welcome to Off The Beat and Track!In this special episode, host Stu Whiffen sits down with LA-based musician Lola Bates—an exciting emerging artist making waves with her distinctive sound and bold creative identity.Raised in the iconic Laurel Canyon music scene, Lola Bates draws influence from legendary artists such as Joni Mitchell, Kate Bush, Tori Amos, and PJ Harvey. A classically trained pianist and accomplished multi-instrumentalist, she blends pop, rock, and folk with intricate vocal harmonies and cinematic production.Despite being just 24, Bates has already built an impressive résumé. She toured alongside Jerry Cantrell—best known from Alice in Chains—and later joined his band for a global tour supporting his solo work. She has also performed with emerging act Sunday (1994), further expanding her presence on the international stage.Her musical career began early, contributing piano work to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1 at just 12 years old, before recording with the London Symphony Orchestra at Abbey Road Studios for the sequel. Her vocals have since featured across film, television, and major releases—including John Wick: Chapter 4 and Primal.Blending elements of indie, alternative, and leftfield pop, Lola is carving out her own lane with music that feels both modern and deeply personal. Writing and creating from Los Angeles, she brings a fresh perspective shaped by her surroundings, influences, and fearless approach to artistry.

In this episode, host Gary Jenkins, a retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit detective, sits down with author and mob expert Springs Toledo and discusses the Boston Winter Hill Gang and its notorious members. Springs' book, “Don’t Talk About Joe Mac: The Life, Wars, and Secret History of the Man Behind the Winter Hill Gang” Springs Toledo provides an exhaustive look at Joe McDonald aka Mac, a pivotal yet often overlooked figure in the Boston criminal landscape, especially during the 1960s-1990s. Springs, a Boston native, brings a unique perspective and personal anecdotes that enrich our understanding of the intersections of crime, family, and community within the city. They explore Joe Mac’s early life and how his background shaped his role in organized crime. Springs shares how Mac was an elder statesman in the underworld, feared and respected for his ability to organize the rackets in Somerville and maintain a significant network of relationships across various neighborhoods. Joe Mac's methods of operation were emblematic of a time when the Irish underworld was gaining ground in a city dominated by Italian crime families. Springs discusses the stark differences in these organizations, from their cultural practices to their hierarchies. Springs also highlights the complexities of Joe Mac's personal life, discussing his relationships with his family, especially his daughter Jacqueline. Their conversations reveal a side of Mac rarely seen in crime stories — a devoted father struggling with his dual identity as a loving parent and a cold-blooded criminal. Throughout the episode, Springs captures the essence of Mac's character, noting that while he was involved in heinous acts, he also exhibited genuine love for his family, a contradiction that adds depth to his narrative. As the conversation unfolds, we examine the dynamics within the Winter Hill Gang, particularly the relationships among Joe Mac, prominent figures like Whitey Bulger, and Howie Carr. Springs shares fascinating insights into Mac's cautious nature and strategic approach to power. He articulates how Mac operated in the shadows, steering clear of public scrutiny while effectively managing the group's criminal enterprises. The episode paints a vivid portrait of a gang operating amid violence, betrayal, and survival. In addition to discussing the various criminal exploits, Springs shares some gripping anecdotes that illustrate the real-life implications of this lifestyle. His stories about Joe’s attempts to balance family life while dodging law enforcement showcase the constant threat that loomed over their lives, encapsulating the dangerous allure and traumatizing consequences of organized crime. We also touch upon the significant events that defined the gang wars in Boston, including Joe Mac’s suspected involvement in notorious hits and how the landscape of crime shifted in response to law enforcement's increased focus on organized crime. Springs dives into the enigmatic character of Joe Mac, unraveling his military background, his unyielding commitment to the underworld, and how he managed to stay a step ahead of rivals and authorities alike. In closing, Springs reflects on the motivations behind his book—his desire to portray the human side of a man branded a monster while exploring the broader themes of morality, family, and the haunting legacy of crime. As we wrap up, it becomes clear that “Don’t Talk About Joe Mac” is not just a biography of an infamous crime figure, but a complex narrative that invites readers to ponder the true cost of a life steeped in organized crime. This episode is a riveting exploration of character, culture, and crime, offering audiences an engaging glimpse into the storied history of Boston organized crime, the Winter Hill gang through the lens of one of its most pivotal figures, Joe Mac. Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire Click here to “buy me a cup of coffee” Subscribe to the website for weekly notifications about updates and other Mob information. To go to the store or make a donation or rent Ballot Theft: Burglary, Murder, Coverup, click here To rent ‘Brothers against Brothers’ or ‘Gangland Wire,’ the documentaries click here.  To purchase one of my books, click here. Springs Toledo JOe mac Gary Jenkins: [00:00:00] hey, all your wire tappers out there. Gary Jenkins back here in the studio of Gangland Wire. I’m a retired Kansas City Police Intelligence unit detective, doing a podcast mainly about organized crime. We might stray into drugs every once in a while, but primarily about Italian based organized crime or, and then sometimes we get into Irish based organized crime. I’ve done a story on the Westie in the past and a few other stories like that. So today we’re gonna talk about the. Crossing of the Irish and and the Italians in Boston area, which is a really well known, famous story. A lot of great characters. And I have with me a man who wrote a book about this. Springs Toledo, welcome Springs. Springs Toledo: Thank you very much, Gary. Happy to be here. Gary Jenkins: Great. Now guys, the books is, don’t Talk about Joe Mack the Life Wars and Secret History of the Man Behind The Winter Hill Gang. And I’ve always wondered about this Winter Hill gang. I’ve always heard of it and Whitey Bulger came out of that and was so famous, but I’ve never really. [00:01:00] Seen anything or know anything about the background of it. And Springs, Toledo has somebody, a guy called Joe Mack that was involved in that and he’s really gone into it in depth. Springs, tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got into this. Springs Toledo: I’m a native of Boston, which did help, the accent helped open doors. Gary Jenkins: We can tell. Springs Toledo: But I don’t even try to hide it anymore. And I have a background in, in boxing, which also helps, that’s a breeding ground for, leg breakers and enforcers. Historically, in Boston, a lot of ex fighters became gangsters or, involved in that life. I went to Northeastern got a graduate degree in criminology. And I I didn’t, I never became a police officer. I worked with, actually with juvenile delinquents and troubled youth for many years. I’ve written several books some about boxing, some about an historical figure named John Brown, who’s an abolitionist, so I’m running the gamut. But Joe McDonald was a name that I heard whispered for many years, growing up. He had a very long criminal career over five decades.[00:02:00] And, so he was considered something very serious. But what I began to notice as the book started coming out after John Madano became a cooperating witness, as he’d say. Is that not much was known about this individual. What I knew is that he was about 20 years older than everybody else. So he’s an elder statesman in that world. So I started poking around. I know some guys who were involved in that life. I know some other guys who were very connected to very serious individuals who were active in the Boston Underworld during these years, the sixties, seventies, eighties, into the nineties. Yeah. So I started, asking around and the things I started to hear were very downright alarming about who this man was and that he was the guy not Whitey Bulger. There was what they’ll all tell you the deeper you get into the operators in that world is that Whitey Bulger is. Largely a mythology. And that in Somerville especially, he wasn’t really that respected. Joe Mack, however, was Joe Mack was, he [00:03:00] was the go-to guy. And upon doing all kinds of research, field research, but also I’m trying to corroborate everything. People are saying you can’t just take what people have to say at face value, especially if they’re, underworld figures. Yeah. A lot of ’em have a self-interest as so what I would do, I had a little strategy. What I would do is I would talk to one guy in Southie if I heard a story that sounded intriguing or something about Joe Mack, what have you, and then I’d try to find another guy in Somerville or East Boston or Hy Park who didn’t necessarily know that individual. And if the stories match, I’d look into it further. For instance, I wanna make sure the guy wasn’t in prison at that time, that he’s allegedly known to have done something. So that’s how I began to put together a picture. And what the u unanimously what I found out is that Joe McDonald was really the, he’s the one that put together organized crime in Somerville, centered in Winter Hill. He organized the launch sh the rackets loan, sharking booking, sports betting, all of that. And he was a very feared individual.[00:04:00] He looked like a building superintendent. He was balding. He, no, he was nothing flashy about him. He was family man. But so I started digging deeper and I got his military records, and then the picture really started to come together because of what he went through during World War II in the South Pacific and the trauma that he suffered. I didn’t wanna write a straight True crime book. So I wanted to do something different. I didn’t want it to be ordinary. I wanted it to be get underneath the behavior. It’s the, the criminology major is, was showing it’s yeah. Was coming to the fore. So I wanna get underneath it. So I consider this book more of a nonfiction noir. ‘Cause if you watch those old movies, a lot of ’em have a theme where you have, the main character, the anti-hero. These are movies from the forties, all black and white. All shadowy. Yeah. They come back from World War ii and they’re troubled. They’re shell-shocked. JoEM, Joe Mack came back and he’s marred. Something about his personality had changed and he’s one of the few individuals that I’ve encountered who [00:05:00] actually age into crime. He didn’t age out of it like everybody else. He aged into it. But he was very good at what he did. He was a brilliant individual. Very strong-willed. Someone said that I talked to, they said that, all the fear, whatever fear he had was knocked out of him, in SVO sound. When his ship went down, which was a USS Quincy with his brother on it. So he became a, began to emerge as a fascinating figure. But what. Made me decide to write the book was when I was hooked up with his daughter by TJ English. I reached out to him and he, he told me about Jackie McDonald. I reached out to her and I said, I’m thinking about writing a book about your father, Joe McDonald. I don’t think that the the literature on him now really got him right. And she said, give me a night to drink about it. Yeah, so the next morning she told me she was she’ll tell me everything she knows and she was the right person because first of all, she was named for the brother that he lost in SVO sound that he never got over his little brother. Her name’s [00:06:00] Jacqueline. And like her father, she’s absolutely brilliant. She’s charismatic. She is incredibly honest. If she’s not sure about something she’d say. So nothing in it was, what she told me was about herself. It was nothing was ego driven. She wanted to tell the truth of her father. And what I began to realize early on is that you know this, you have victims of guys like Joe McDonald who killed dozens of people professionally, but he was a murderer. There’s no doubt about it. And you have a lot of victims, including in his own family. Not that he intended to hurt his daughters and his son, but his, who he was and what he was, did a lot of damage to his own family and she was the perfect person to talk to because she was so honest. She’s also very funny if, you read about her in the book, she comes across as a real character, very charismatic. So her story runs parallel with his, she comes out about the middle of the book. I trace her life alongside with his, and she had a memoir that she did many years ago and she shared that with me. [00:07:00] She’s she really is a force of good, if you will, in the book. She’s the one to cheer for, she’s the one to root for. Joe McDonald is a formidable figure, but he’s a dark and shadow. We figure. I do bring him out as much as I can and he is fascinating, but. I felt like I needed someone to root for the reader, yeah. And also, it’s women who love true crime the most. Yeah. Gary Jenkins: That’s so Springs Toledo: had to give nod to them, they’re gonna buy it. Gary Jenkins: That is true. And a story like this will will attract men and women both, sometimes those just straight, kill ’em all and let God sort ’em out. Of true crime books are not really attractive to women. That’s really interesting that. You’re showing the human side of this guy instead of just the crime side, which there every one of these guys that are professional criminals in this life have a human side. They, that’s what one thing that fascinated me about ’em, even way back when I started, went into the intelligence unit is these guys all had families and they had kids going to St. Pius up here and they played football and the families all showed up [00:08:00] when their kids played football and they were in little league and all that kind of normal stuff. On one hand, but yet they came over into the CI city in here. They came from the suburbs over in the city and were these gangsters all night long, and then went back home to their suburban homes. So that family side. That’s really interesting. I’m glad you did that. Springs Toledo: That’s compartmentalization. And Joe was the best at it. But there was something unusual about this case and that is that. Joe told nothing to anybody. His Winter Hill partners barely knew about his personal life. They didn’t know much about him. Yeah, nobody knew much about him. ’cause he didn’t confide in anybody. He did it the way you’re supposed to do it. As an organized, if you’re gonna get into organized crime, you want to follow his lead. And he lived a tough life. It’s nothing to get into in terms of choosing that as an occupation. However, he did confide in his daughters. He trusted them and he told them an awful lot, which he didn’t realize was traumatizing them. But. Jackie McDonald is blessed with a very good memory, so she was able to fill in [00:09:00] a lot of blanks about some of which were cold case murders and other just, real eyebrow raising incidents that happened. I think this book would’ve been invaluable to the FBI. Right up to the early nineties interest because of the stuff that came out, several cold case murders. I think I solved them. And, they were attributable, well attributed. I attribute them to Joe, a few. I know he did. But, people didn’t know, and he was a, excuse my saying, but he had. He was a real talent for that. He knew how to get you. He knew how to find you. He knew how to get you. And he also, like I said, he didn’t have any fear, so there was nothing holding him back. And that’s a difference from Whitey Bulger. What people don’t realize is that Whitey Bulger was a very careful man. And that’s why a lot of murders attributed to Whitey Bulger. He didn’t do, it doesn’t even, it, it offends his personality. He was the kind of guy, if he’s gonna kill you, you’re gonna be in the basement tied to a chair, or you’re gonna be a woman. He’s not on Northern Avenue in Boston in broad daylight, killing Brian Halleran. It’s not true. That’s not Whitey [00:10:00] bulge, that’s not how he operated. Joe Mack was a different beast altogether, and yet he was never indicted for murder. He was questioned maybe for one of them. And the title is really a reason for that because you didn’t talk about Joe Mack. That’s actually, that’s that’s. I like the title a lot. It took me a long time to get to that title. First title was Hey Joe, ’cause of the song. And I was like, ah. Nobody said, Hey, Joe to him. Where you going with that gun in your hand, huh? That’s right. You’re good. Yeah. Jimmy Hendrix. And then another title was the Wars of Joe Mack. That was a little too masculine that works, but it was too masculine. Yeah, don’t talk about Joe Mack really captures, what he was and how he operated. Gary Jenkins: Springs set the geographic scene. I’ve always been a little bit confused about this in Boston. IU Boston is unlike Kansas City, for example, what I’m familiar with. It has these really distinct areas in neighborhoods. Set the scene, the Italians African Americans, the Irish what set that up for us? [00:11:00] Springs Toledo: Okay, this is the, fifties, sixties, seventies that, that’s where most of the book is occurring. Especially 60, 70, actually into the eighties. Boston first of all it’s basically back then was an Irish Catholic city. Yeah. There were other ethnicities, but it was overrun with the Irish and there were neighborhoods. So you had. You had neighborhood crews, you had crews that were operated out of East Boston. That’s Barboza, south Boston was several of them. Jamaica Plain, the North End obviously was where the mafia was. Sented La Ostra. Somerville, Charlestown. And a lot of, most of these guys who were got into criminality. Not only did they have families, they also had occupations. They were long showmen, they were roofers. They had jobs. I’m a policeman. And back then policemen, you didn’t make a lot of money. So you were encouraged to supplement your income. Oh yeah. Some of these guys were, they were detectives by day and they’re doing heists at night and that was not uncommon. And. Over time, certain organizations [00:12:00] became more organized and the Irish, remember, were barely organized. They were more like, it was more like the old West when things got hot. It was also a whiskey driven, a lot of the heinous acts and the murders that started to happen with that, the Irish gang war in the sixties, everybody was drunk. Some of these guys were really nice guys and then they got to the whiskey and forget it. They become monsters. Not everybody, but but. Boston was also very segregated. Not like the south. It was, there was natural neighborhoods, I was in Hy Park, that’s where I came up. If I went to Southy, there was a problem ’cause I didn’t know a lot of people there. If somebody from Southie went to the North End, it’s a problem. You are Irish, you shouldn’t be here. You didn’t cross boundaries. Mattapan was Jewish and then it became black. Same thing. So everybody congregating together is very tribal in that sense. Less so now, but there are still pockets, what’s upsetting to me is that you barely hear the accent, and you’re walking through Boston, you don’t hear the accent too much anymore. You have to get to Dorchester. That’s their accent’s. 10 times worse than mine, [00:13:00] and mine’s pretty bad but Joe Mack was Joe Mack was born in Medford, Massachusetts. He then, he was in Somerville by about 1950. His mother had moved there as as clan, if you will. Had moved there, his sisters and brothers. And so he was in Somerville in Winter Hill, and that’s where he started to operate and that’s where he started to put things together. Gary Jenkins: Interesting. You say Winter Hill. So let’s talk about the beginnings or this Winter Hill gang. I’ve heard of this. Many times. And Whitey Bulger of course popularized it. So tell me about the Winter Hill gang and Howie Carr. And there’s a famous picture that see on internet or on Facebook with our Underboss Tuffy Luna and this guy that was the head of the Winter Hill gang and a couple other gangsters from New York. So tell us about the beginning of this Winter Hill gang. Springs Toledo: We deserves a lot of credit. He’s the one that really brought the stuff out beginning in the eighties. He had the guts to mention Joe Mack in print. That’s high risk. I’m not sure how much he did it, but he was really [00:14:00] attuned to it early. And he had some great books, but winter Hill’s a neighborhood in Somerville. It’s not South Boston. You talk to guys who were associated with the Winter Hill Gang, what they called the Hill. Really? It was called The Hill by those who were a part of that organization. They get very resentful about Whitey Belgium and some of them will say that Whitey Belger wasn’t Winter Hill. Whitey Belgium was a partner, but he was South Boston. Okay. Once, and it’s a big story, but once he, it’s all in the book. But once he betrayed his partners in 79. With Fleming and all the partners just about were either they were all indicted except for about this big horse racing scheme that was going on, across several states. But Whitey and Fleming were unindicted co-conspirators, and that was hint number one that prompted Joe to go to Howie Winter, who was the face of the organization and say, I’m gonna kill them both. He was talked out of it because it’d be too much heat because Whitey had some very serious connections. You can’t take that away from him. And so he was a high [00:15:00] risk hit. Joe would’ve done it anyway and would’ve probably made him disappear or threw it at another organization to get the heat off the hill. But he was restrained, which was, I thought was a big mistake, but who can tell then? But after he cleared the field of his rivals, who. Where his partners in the Winter Hill gang he ostensibly should have taken over the rackets in Somerville, but that wasn’t really the case. He had salty that was his turf. He was a local guy. Salty was really where he was. He was no longer really welcome is my understanding from guys who I talked to were there, he was basically chased out of the Marshall Motor’s garage in Somerville in Winter Hill, and that’s when he went to the Lancaster garage in, on North End, which is closer to home, closer to his. Space of operations. Yeah. But Whitey was very treacherous and he was Machiavellian in his methods. Joe at the time was already on the lamb because I don’t think Whitey would’ve survived that if Joe was close and saw what he was doing. So it’s a lot of what could have been, if Joe wasn’t in the wind because of several other crimes and murders he was [00:16:00] doing at the time, he was actually on the FBI’s 10 most wanted on 76, long before Whitey was on it. Gary Jenkins: Interesting. So then the relationship between Howie Carr and Joe Mack how was that, how did that shake down? Springs Toledo: Howie Winter, you mean, Gary Jenkins: or Howie Winter, I’m sorry. Springs Toledo: Yeah. Howie Winter was mentored by Joe Mack. See, Joe Mack was really, he was like the general, he was like the general on the field. The Irish don’t operate in a hierarchy. That’s an Italian thing. There’s no ring kissing in an Irish pub. It’s just a different culture. What they were partners. You had one guy up front. He was the face of it. That’s Howie. Howie was the face of it before Howie’s buddy McClain. In the early, in the early sixties. Joe though, the guy in the shadows, he used to say, I’m at the back of the bus. He’s at the back of the bus, but he’s the one with the map. He’s the go-to guy. The guy up front is the guy that gets hit. That’s the guy that gets indicted. So Joe was astute enough to, just stay in the [00:17:00] background, let the kids have it. But they were. Very close, very close. During the war they were, very tight-knit organization. These were friends. They were very affectionate with each other. They took care of one another. This is before Whitey came in. He was, he poisoned the well. But Joe and Howie and Buddy McClean and they, anos when they come in, they were very close. It was a kind of a band of brothers in a way. But Joe still made. Maintain that, everybody was at arms length with him. He was careful about everybody. There was a rift between Howie and Joe later in their respective lives in the in the eighties, into the nineties. I’m told that it was healed. I don’t think it was, and that’s unfortunate. But they were close to most of their lives, they literally went to war together on, on the street, you’re gonna form strong bonds when you know you’re looking at this guy and you gotta rely on him to watch your back. And Gary Jenkins: yeah, Springs Toledo: that’s what was happening. Gary Jenkins: So Irish, they didn’t kick up, if you will, to somebody above them. Everybody was a kind of a independent operator. If you got a piece of action and you had something going that you didn’t have to kick up to [00:18:00] somebody to be part of the Winter Hill gang, if you will. Springs Toledo: That was where the, there were a lot of crews around. They were called independents. And there’s a lot of them around in Boston in the sixties. But if you got too big and you started making real money, Patri was a power in Boston. Gary Jenkins: Yeah. Springs Toledo: Raymond Patri, he was a power in Boston. There’s no doubt about that. But there’s two schools of thought. Some believe that Winter Hill had to always kick up to them, kick to Providence. Others say? No, not really. Because first of all, he loved Buddy McClean. Buddy McClain was he was a very charismatic guy, very tough guy, and he was a man of his word, so they really liked him. So there’s the other school of thought is that, they liked Buddy, they gave him a pass on that. But every now and then they’d have to do him favors, maybe do some hits, things like that. Yeah. Yeah. But again, but in, in Boston it’s, like I said, it’s mostly Irish, it’s not set up like New York where the Italians are a real power that’s right there. He, one guy, matter of fact a name of one of the chapters in the book where I get into the Gangland war. Is Boston was [00:19:00] overrun with sick bastards, quote unquote, because there was just so many dangerous guys. There wasn’t a few here and there, like the gallows or it, there was hundreds of guys and there was damn near psychopathic they were called and underworld polls. There was savages, they go right to your house. And it was too many. This, one guy actually several believed that if there was a problem between Rhode Island. The Boston Underworld, meaning Boston Writ Lodge, including Somerville, Medford, Malden, all that. That. The Italians would’ve come to the table. ’cause the Irish underworld, the Boston Underworld here would’ve made it very much not worth it. Not worth the blood and the treasure. So it’s, yes, with very interesting culture here. What you couldn’t control the Boston underworld. They would just, Boston itself has a reputation. You don’t wanna invade this place. Gary Jenkins: Yeah, just ask the English, huh? Springs Toledo: Exactly. Yeah. We go way back with that stuff. Yeah. Gary Jenkins: Yeah it’s, I was at I went into the north end and looked around at Prince Street and all the place where [00:20:00] Jerry Angelo and all that was going on, and that is such a small. Discreet little area in that then, so you, they just operated and he was not any kind of a real power. It didn’t seem to be like, compared to patriarchal. He was under patriarchal of course. And he didn’t really, it’s like the Irish all had their own thing all around him. All, and he didn’t really have didn’t, I didn’t find any, anything I’ve ever seen where there was much to do between those two. Was there, did he have anything about that? Springs Toledo: He had he had two guys joe Russo, he was a killer. He was a very serious individual and a guy who has two names. Some call him Byi, some call him Zino. Larry was his name. Very serious guy. But that’s two guys. The other dangerous guys in the north end. They were getting up there in age. Meanwhile, like you just alluded to, this sur this surrounded, by these, these crazy guys. Yeah, but they, they did. There was some interplay, there was some contracts would be given to the Hill, for instance. That happened several times. The Hill would borrow [00:21:00] money from Angelou and Jou had a lot of money. They’d borrow money from him. Whitey Belger borrowed money from him with Fleming and actually didn’t pay it back. And then Joe Mack got out of the can. This is 80 late 86, 87, and him and Howie went to Fleming and Whitey and said, listen, you’re paying them back. Matter of fact, you’re paying them back a million because you made us look bad. We pay our debts, you pay him, you pay in back 1 million. And they did. They Whitey Bulger. Yeah. Whitey Bulger did not step two, Joe McDonald. In other words he wasn’t the power that Johnny Depp would have us believe. Gary Jenkins: Interesting. So let’s go back to the family just a little bit. His daughter Jack Le, so when he went to prison, did she talk about that? I have a friend who went to prison for several years and he talks, tells me a lot about his kids coming to visit him in prison. Did he talk about that? Did she talk about that? How that affected her? Springs Toledo: She she talks about her whole life and how he was a shadow in her life. She loved him, [00:22:00] but he brought a lot of chains behind him and a lot of ghosts and a lot of fear of FBI raids and things like that. Even when he was on the run from the FBI was on the, top 10 most wanted, it’s only six o’clock news all over the place in every post office. He would just show up and see her. He thought he was being a dutiful father. He’s showing up. He’s got these black sideburns, glued onto his face and she could see the ink dripping. He got his rug on his head he startled her a lot. So she. He was a cause of great anxiety. And then she became a mother, and then things started to change. She had to protect her boys. And while, he looked like he could be a good grandfather, he was an extremely dangerous man. And when he went away to prison, she tried to be a good daughter. She would send him clippings. Matter of fact, she sent him a clipping of I think it was a national examiner because her father was in it. It was about the top 10. FBI fugitives. And she pointed out she was into astronomy and she astrology and she pointed [00:23:00] out that Joe Mack and another guy named Leo Corey had the same birthday, July 14th. So she thought he’d get a kick outta that. He gets outta prison a few years later, and he shows up at her house with Leo Corey. Who’s still on the top 10 most wanted. And she, he opens the door. He said, do you remember this guy? And she turned, that, that was a scary, that was a very scary moment for her. Yeah. He’s bringing very, this is a convicted murderer. It’s a multiple murderer. She’s got bringing, he’s bringing it to her house like he’s an old friend. So that kind of stuff happened a lot. It almost show off like that. Look what I can do. Yeah. So she had, I, she did love him and she has since forgiven him. And I think this book is part of her process to forgive, what he put her through and what he put his other children through. Not intentionally, he tried to be a good father, but how can you. In that position. Gary Jenkins: Yeah. Yeah. When you bring that violence into the home, and you can’t help but bring that aura of [00:24:00] violence with you. When you live that life and when you come back into the home, there’s still that edge of violence that, that unspoken communication, you jump every time, somebody pulls up out in front and you’re running to the window to see who it is and there’s just always, always on edge. I, that would be it. Springs Toledo: Here’s a good story. So he’s on the run. This is in the I think it’s the late sixties. Joe’s on the run. She’s at home and Joe set his wife and kids up in Malden and a house on the hill. And originally he was gonna live there too. And it’s a, it is a great place. He’s up, he’s on a corner. He’s on a hill. You can see Boston from it. So it’s got a great vantage point for kind of a, a paranoid damaged war veteran. Yeah. So a call comes into the house. Voice says, you know who this is. She’s about 11, 12 years old. Voice says, you know who this is? Yes. Meet me at the bottom of the hill. So she gets her sister Patty and they meet their dad at the bottom of the hill. He takes them bowling and saga. He’s got the disguise on. Yeah. He’s got so many IDs, fake IDs, and he’s they [00:25:00] go to they, they go bowl and. You gotta wait for Lane. So he’s sitting there like this, he got his arms out. He’s feeling good about himself. He’s a good dad. He got his two teenage girls here and one of ’em, one of ’em, almost a teenager. And suddenly over the intercom, Thomas Campbell, your lane is ready. And he’s just sitting there. Thomas Campbell, he’s just sitting there. Finally his daughter says, pat says, dad, that’s you. Oh. And off he goes. So he wasn’t even sure who he was half the time. Yeah. So he’s my heart went out to him in that sense because here’s a man who made some very dark life choices and he’s trying to be a conventional father. Meanwhile, he’s gotta keep his eye on the clock, on the door, on the phone and everything else, all day long. Not to mention the fact that, there’s, it was dangerous lifestyle. But, his daughters, I, his daughters, they idolize him and they loved him. They didn’t fear him, he never raised his hand to them, never raised his hand to them, but they feared what he brought with ’em. Yeah. And that’s a theme book. Gary Jenkins: Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, that’s a, that’s that is so interesting. Think about this [00:26:00] era or of violent violence. I think somewhere in the book I noticed I was going through it where he may have been possibly one of the suspects on the Joe Barbosa head out in San Francisco when they finally got him and in. Springs Toledo: That’s fascinating because actually I had to take out ’cause of the publisher, I take about 15,000 words, but I really get into that. But that had to go. But what happened was. He had to go out there and kill a federal witness. And this guy was a civilian. This guy looked like a grandfather. And but he was gonna be a fence for some rear stamps that Joe had taken a million dollars worth of rear stamps. And this guy was gonna be the fence. He was a rear stamp collector out in Sierra Madre. Long story short, in January of 1976, Joe Mack drives out there, shoots him in the head five times in front of his wife, and then in February, that’s when Bob Bozer is killed February, 1976. This is January, 1976. Now, what I heard from two sources, and they’re pretty good, is that Joe did not go from Sierra Madre, [00:27:00] California back to Somerville. What he did was he went to Laurel Canyon and that’s where Alex Rocco was staying. Alex Rocco du played Mo Green in The Godfather. Oh, Gary Jenkins: yeah. Yeah. Springs Toledo: Yeah, he was a Winter Hill guy and Joe stayed with him on the lamb for so many weeks. I don’t know if it’s true. I couldn’t chase that down. No way you’re gonna find that out. But it was an intriguing little tidbit. So then in in February Bob Bozer is killed. Now when that news hit a bar in Boston called Clocks was a mob hangout. The bartender who knew all these guys. He got off the phone and he yelled out to the bar that Bleepity bleep stool pigeon. Animal Barbosa is dead and gone. God bless Joe Mack. That’s what he said. He just assumed Joe Mack did it. So what I’m trying to chase that down and what happens is so I’m talking to guys, who’re talking to guys. What I [00:28:00] found out is that one guy said no, this that, that wasn’t Joe that was kept in-house among the Italians because Bob Bza really took apart the Italians influences Yeah. In Boston. Yeah. He took them apart with lies. And however, there were three people in that van. I got these I got freedom of information documents and. What I was told by a made guy actually, is that it was Russo and Byi Zino. They’re the ones that took out Bob Bozo with a shotgun from a van. The van two seats were taken out of the van. The windows were painted black. This. Side windows were painted black and peeps were drilled into the side door and the back, so they worked hard to get ’em, but there was a third man in the van, so that’s a little intriguing. Could it have been Joe? I don’t know. Probably not. I’d have to say probably not, but nice story. And then from there, and then literally just a few weeks after that, Joe was in disguise. Remember now he’s already on the news as a as a top 10 fugitive. The FBI’s looking [00:29:00] for, and where is he? He’s in Walpole. How did I find out? I got everybody’s prison records. I could, and Brian Halleran, who turns up later in the book and then turns up dead later in the book. He’s in prison. Joe visits him. How do I know? It’s Joe’s Alias? John A. Kelly, that was his alias at the time. So he’s wanted by the FBI, he’s on the news and literally a week or two later. He’s visiting somebody in Walpole State Prison. From there, I trace him to Montreal. What’s he doing in Montreal? He’s sticking, he’s holding up a an ahed car robbery. With the Montreal Express, they had a great program, the Montreal Express. And Somerville, what they would do is they would just swap guys to do these big highs, get these ika, get these banks, and then just return. So it was awfully hard to catch ’em ’cause they’re just doing like a swap off. Yeah. Joe Mack. Was up there. And what he was doing was, and he, it was a white van, which raises an eyebrow, another white van. And the Amed car, the guy wouldn’t open the door. So they open up the [00:30:00] door of the back doors of the white van. And there is a World War II Browning anti-aircraft gun. And guess who’s behind it? Joe Mack. So this is a very busy man, and he should be, he’s retirement age but did he kill Boba? Probably not, but there was a third guy there. I would not be surprised. I know the Italians used him. Gary Jenkins: You brought something to Montreal Express Now what’s that? I, that I’m not from, I’ve not heard that term before. Springs Toledo: I wasn’t either, but that a lot of guys told me they Gary Jenkins: back heard your story there. Springs Toledo: Yeah, there is. Yeah. They were they were up, they were they were bank robbers. They went for the armor trucks. That was their forte. Very well organized. Very skilled. They were specialized and they would swap off with, winter Hills, sometimes with Southie and South Boston, I should say. South Boston and Somerville would, they were very close, they were very much aligned. They would swap off. I think one of ’em was the brother of a Bruins hockey player. Yeah. Gary Jenkins: Interesting. These guys, they got their connections. I found out more and more after I since I started doing this podcast, how many connections people [00:31:00] had between cities and even within a city connections to regular look like Square John, businessmen and just connections all over the place. It’s Springs Toledo: all over the place. Matter of fact, Joe was Joe was in contact with the guys who escaped from Alcatraz. I couldn’t prove it, but I heard that, he was sending them money and, and supporting them. I pro I didn’t find nearly 50% of what Joe was up to, but that’s more than anybody else. I think before this book, we knew about 2% of what he was up to. Yeah. Gary Jenkins: It was Springs Toledo: pretty guy. Sure. Yeah. He was a footnote in the most of the books. Just a footnote, if that. So Gary Jenkins: that’s the smart one, the one that keeps his head down and keeps out of the papers and everything. Did that, did you talk to John Ano? Springs Toledo: Yes. Yeah. Gary Jenkins: Interesting. Springs Toledo: I did. He was he loved, first thing he said was how much he loved him. All these guys, very serious guys. They’re very powerful guys in the underworld. And when I brought his name up the ones who were close to him, they would say I love that. I love that man. Loved him. They loved and [00:32:00] revered him. Other guys who were not as close to him, but who were very, operatives in the bus world. I bring his name up now, he’s been gone since 1997. And they’d look around like this. And they say, oh gee. So you know, his name is still enough to and matter of fact, I was told early on when I was poking around that I’m poking around in dangerous places and Joe still has friends and you don’t wanna cross these guys, so even now his his shadow still looms, if you will, but I think it approve of what I did because, what I heard is that he’s very honest. He would not want any biographer to pull a pull punches about who and what he was. I didn’t, yeah. But some of his friends warned me. They were, you gotta be careful with this, but I call it bachelor’s privilege. I’m not married, I have no kids. If I end up in a ditch, who cares? So I can take risks. Gary Jenkins: Yeah. That’s some truth. It’s just that last few minutes before you’d done the dish, you go, oh shit, I wish I was anywhere but here. I, Springs Toledo: I would ask to talk to a priest. Let me get a confession. That what you gotta do, Gary Jenkins: you Springs Toledo: know, Gary Jenkins: you’d be like I think it was Tony Citro. Supposedly the story was he [00:33:00] wanted to know if he could say a quick prayer before they did him in, but Springs Toledo: I hope they let him, Gary Jenkins: I don’t know. Steve Fleming, we met, you’d mentioned about Steve Fleming, the Rifleman, who was whitey’s buddy and you, I think you mentioned you had a story about Steve Fleming. Springs Toledo: Steve Fleming was it’s interesting he doesn’t appear too much in the book. One of the things I had to do with this, I had to do my best to keep the names down. One of the a fatal flaw in a whole lot of Boston and Underworld books than any underworld books is there was just 8,000 names. Too many names. There’s too many names. So I, so I mentioned him a few times ’cause you have to, but I’m not focused on Fleming, but I can tell you that Joe was very suspicious of Fleming as early as he was very suspicious of Whitey. He respected him. Fleming was a killer. More of an ambush killer than than a Savage or a guy who took a lot of risks. He was a lot like Whitey, like that. But no, Joe didn’t trust him because. He had a long bid and he got out early, and that’s always a cause for concern among those guys. Why are [00:34:00] you out early? They got a story and the stories backed up by the government. They were already in cahoots. Gary Jenkins: Yeah. Springs Toledo: But with the names, there was one guy, this is an example. He was actually an MDC cop who was part of the Winter Hill gang in the early sixties, and his name was Russ Nicholson. I don’t wanna keep saying Russ Nicholson, the cop. So I shortened it to Russ the cop. Yeah. And then as things went on and the, police department realized that this guy’s involved in the rackets, they forced him to resign. So then I started calling them Rust, the ex cop. Then Rusty ex-cop gets clipped probably by Georgie McLaughlin. He’s dead, so now he’s Rust the dead ex-cop. So I’m trying to be polite to the reader and keep the names down. Gary Jenkins: Interesting. That’s a good idea that I know about that, that people say I love what you did, but there’s too many names. I got confused who was who. So it’s Springs Toledo: yeah, Gary Jenkins: it’s always a problem with these deals. All right, Springs, Toledo. [00:35:00] Let’s see. All of a sudden I like there it is. There you go guys. And guys, I will have your his link to for all his books and the show notes and of course links to my books too, but links to all of these guy, these books. You had some even about John Brown. You wanna go back into little Civil War history? Why check those out too. Guys, thanks so much for coming on the show. Springs Toledo: My pleasure.

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Music, Mind Control & The 27 Club – Missy Hill Returns | TSP #2566

What does it mean to make music that feels both rooted in the past and quietly expansive at the same time? In this episode, we step into the world of Jonathan Wilson, a songwriter, producer, and sonic architect whose work draws from Laurel Canyon tradition while reaching into something more immersive and textural. This is music shaped as much in the studio as it is in the song itself, layered, detailed, and deeply attentive to sound and space. Not just compositions, but environments.I do hope that you enjoy this episode.Mathew Woodallhttps://www.facebook.com/share/1F15mx4ea3/https://buymeacoffee.com/lownoiseWhy buy me a coffee?Low Noise is proudly ad-free. If you would like to to say thank you for any of the content you have enjoyed (and help support the continuation of creating more), the above link provides a way to make a small donation of your choice (I also function on coffee!).Feel free to leave a note with your donation to let me know what you enjoy about the podcast or any topics you would like me to discuss in the future.

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Chelsea is joined by bestie Jo Feldman to break down “You with the Sad Eyes,” the memoir of “Anchorman” and “Dead to Me” star Christina Applegate, who unpacks her Multiple Sclerosis diagnosis. Jo and Chelsea recap Christina's childhood growing up in Laurel Canyon, her reluctant rise as a comedic icon on “Married… with Children,” plus wild tales with Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp, and the Pussycat Dolls history we didn't see coming. A content warning: This episode contains discussions of sensitive topics, including domestic violence, childhood sexual abuse, and substance use. Take care while listening and find helpful resources here. Contact us or send us your voice notes: hello@glamoroustrash.com Follow Chelsea: Instagram @chelseadevantez Join the cookie community: Become a member of the Patreon Thank you to our sponsors: Quince  - Go to quince.com/glamorous for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.  Thrive Causemetics - Get 20% off your first order at thrivecausemetics.com/glamorous  Ritual - Save 25% on your first month at ritual.com/glamorous.  Libro.fm - Click here to get 2 audiobooks for the price of 1 with your first month of membership using code TRASH. Show Notes: Dringo! Card *** Glamorous Trash is all about going high and low at the same time— Glam and Trash. We recap and book club celebrity memoirs, deconstruct pop culture, and sometimes, we cry! If you've ever referenced Mariah Carey in therapy... then this is the podcast for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

As Lou and Adelle gather themselves and adjust the The Shift, why not listen to an olden show of yore! Lou was in a Hollywood Movie many years ago (Laurel Canyon starring Francis McDormand, look it up! ) and told the very unglamorous stinky story. He also sings the movie's pivotal tune: Shade and Honey by Sparklehorse. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's Talkhouse Podcast, we've got a songwriter with a long and varied history who's somehow just now making her solo debut alongside the musician and producer who helped her make it: it's Morgan Nagler and King Tuff. You could be excused for not knowing Morgan Nagler's name; she's been on the fringes of the L.A. music scene for the past couple of decades, co-writing songs with Phoebe Bridgers (the remarkable “Kyoto”) and HAIM, among others—as well as fronting the band Whispertown. She's also had another career on-screen, from Punky Brewster to American Pie 2, but that's not relevant for today's conversation. Just this month, Nagler released the first album under her own name, and it carries the all-time great title I've Got Nothing to Lose and I'm Losing It. If you love melodic, heartfelt pop with a bit of that Laurel Canyon twang, you will find something to love on this record. Check out the song “Hurt” right here, which features a cavalcade of talented backing singers, too. Kyle Thomas has been making music under the name King Tuff for the past 20 years or so, cranking out rollicking, straightforward rockers that fit perfectly with his moniker. For his new record Moo, Thomas went back to basics after spending what he felt like was too much time cleaning things up. The result is a garage-y, thoroughly catchy set of songs that never try to overcomplicate the desire to rock. Think GBV or Ty Segall or Mikal Cronin. Check out the song “Invisible Ink” from his new album Moo right here. It's out this week. In this fun chat, Nagler and Thomas talk about the fun of writing lyrics together, Thomas' move back to the snowy woods of Vermont, and what they plan to eat on their upcoming tour together. There's also white weasels and Cadbury creme eggs, so pay close attention and enjoy. Thanks for listening to the Talkhouse Podcast, and thanks to Morgan Nagler and Kyle Thomas aka. King Tuff for chatting. If you liked what you heard, please follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcasting platform and check out all the great stuff at Talkhouse.com. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan and the Talkhouse theme is composed and performed by the Range. See you next time! Find more illuminating podcasts on the ⁠⁠⁠Talkhouse Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠. Visit ⁠⁠⁠talkhouse.com⁠⁠⁠ to read essays, reviews, and more. Follow @talkhouse on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Twitter (X)⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Threads⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠.

https://programs.the-christ.net/courses/the-way-of-the-mysticIn this deep dive from the 7th Way of the Mystic online revival weekend, themed “Vibrational Connections: To Have, Give All to All,” David Hoffmeister leads the Saturday movie session by exploring the musical collaborations and relationships of the Laurel Canyon scene in the sixties. David uses these artistic partnerships as a metaphor to illuminate how our yearning for true communication is a call from the soul to break free from the constraints of a limited, individual identity.Spiritual awakening is a collaborative venture. David emphasizes that the free sharing of ideas—much like the harmonious blending of voices and instruments—is the key to dissolving the ego's walls of separation. When we stop trying to "own" our talents or protect a private persona, we enter into a vibrational connection where giving and receiving are recognized as one. By looking at these models of joining, we see that our relationships are the perfect laboratory for practicing the "giving all to all" that leads to the realization of our shared Christ Mind. Moving beyond the ego's defense, we drop personal preferences and realize that true harmony is natural. In this shared purpose, we experience the happy dream, ready for God's embrace.These gatherings take place every weekend in February and March 2026 and include teachings, films, music, panel discussions, and live Q&A sessions with David Hoffmeister.Register for the Way of the Mystic for free here: https://programs.the-christ.net/courses/the-way-of-the-mystic      If you want to learn more about David Hoffmeister and Living Miracles events, visit https://circle.livingmiraclescenter.org/events Recording Date: Online, Saturday, March 21, 2026Follow us on:YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/DavidHoffmeister https://www.youtube.com/@LivingMiraclesFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/ACIM.ACourseInMiracles Learn more about David & Living Miracles:https://circle.livingmiraclescenter.org/eventsLearn more about A Course in Miracles:https://ACIM.bizDavid's Spanish YouTube Channel is: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP9Gw00CldPUmiu43y7fdWwDavid's Portuguese YouTube Channel is:https://www.youtube.com/@davidhoffmeisterucem

https://programas.elcristoenti.com/courses/el-camino-del-misticoEn esta inmersión profunda de la séptima sesión de "El Camino del Místico, Celebraciones de fin de Semana", bajo el tema "Conexiones Vibracionales: Para Tener, Da Todo a Todos", David Hoffmeister dirige la sesión de película del sábado explorando las colaboraciones musicales y las relaciones de la escena de Laurel Canyon en los años sesenta. David utiliza estas asociaciones artísticas como una metáfora para iluminar cómo nuestro anhelo de comunicación verdadera es un llamado del alma para liberarse de las limitaciones de una identidad individual y limitada.El despertar espiritual es una empresa colaborativa. David enfatiza que el compartir libremente las ideas —muy parecido a la mezcla armoniosa de voces e instrumentos— es la clave para disolver los muros de separación del ego. Cuando dejamos de intentar "poseer" nuestros talentos o proteger una personalidad privada, entramos en una conexión vibratoria donde el dar y el recibir se reconocen como uno solo.Al observar estos modelos de unión, vemos que nuestras relaciones son el laboratorio perfecto para practicar el "dar todo a todos" que conduce a la realización de nuestra Mente de Cristo compartida. Al ir más allá de las defensas del ego, abandonamos las preferencias personales y nos damos cuenta de que la verdadera armonía es natural. En este propósito compartido, experimentamos el sueño feliz, listos para el abrazo de Dios.Estos encuentros se llevan a cabo todos los fines de semana de febrero y marzo de 2026 e incluyen enseñanzas, películas, música, paneles de discusión y sesiones de preguntas y respuestas en vivo con David Hoffmeister.Regístrate gratis para El Camino del Místico aquí: https://programas.elcristoenti.com/courses/el-camino-del-mistico                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     Si deseas saber más sobre David Hoffmeister y los eventos de Living Miracles, visita: https://www.elcristoenti.com/eventosFecha de grabación: Online, sábado 21 de marzo de 2026.Follow us on:YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/DavidHoffmeister https://www.youtube.com/@LivingMiraclesFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/ACIM.ACourseInMiracles Learn more about David & Living Miracles:https://circle.livingmiraclescenter.org/eventsLearn more about A Course in Miracles:https://ACIM.bizDavid's Spanish YouTube Channel is: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP9Gw00CldPUmiu43y7fdWwDavid's Portuguese YouTube Channel is:https://www.youtube.com/@davidhoffmeisterucem

Graham Nash's incredible career spans over 60 years. He's a two-time Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductee, with Crosby, Stills & Nash and the Hollies. He's a Grammy Award winner and two-time inductee to the Songwriters Hall of Fame—as a solo artist and with CSN. With CSN and CSNY he has written and performed some of the greatest songs ever including “Marrakesh Express,” “Teach Your Children” and “Our House”. His solo career yielded two albums which include “Chicago/We Can Change the World,” and “Military Madness.” He's been a passionate advocate for peace and social and environmental justice, and created . The No Nukes/Musicians United for Safe Energy (MUSE) concerts with Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt in 1979. Graham is also the author of the NY Times bestselling memoir Wild Tales, and he's a renowned photographer and visual artist whose work has been shown in galleries and museums worldwide. Most recently he released A Life In Focus: The Photography Of Graham Nash. And his most recent album is 2023's “Now”. Graham takes us back to his early years and musical influences; the genesis of Crosby, Stills & Nash and the timeless music they created together and with Neil Young; his poignant memories of David Crosby; reflections on Woodstock, Joni Mitchell, and the 60's/70's; the importance of protest songs, especially today; and more. And in one of my favorite stories, Graham describes a recent emotional visit back to the Laurel Canyon home he shared with Joni for two years, and where he wrote "Our House" in one hour on a cold, rainy day. Got somethin' to say?! Email us at BackroomAndy@gmail.com Leave us a message: 845-307-7446 Twitter: @AndyOstroy Produced by Andy Ostroy, Matty Rosenberg, and Jennifer Hammoud @ Radio Free Rhiniecliff Design by Cricket Lengyel

In Shelley's words:We welcome researcher and author Mark Devlin, who takes us deep into the intersections of popular music, social engineering, and occult symbolism—from 1960s Laurel Canyon revelations to modern celebrity influence and predictive programming.We discuss artists who toe the industry line, those who resist, and how bloodlines, handlers and mind control allegedly shape the entertainment landscape. Mark also previews his latest books, including Musical Truth Volume 4: No One's Dad's a Plumber, and his truth-fiction trilogy. It's a thought‑provoking conversation about media literacy, critical thinking, and reclaiming personal sovereignty—peppered with sunshine, great tunes, and plenty of laughs along the way.Shelley's Rumble channel is here:https://rumble.com/user/shelleytasker*If you have found value in my work and would like to support its continuation, please consider becoming one of my Patreon supporters which gets you access to exclusive content that I don't post elsewhere. You can join up here:https://www.patreon.com/user?u=113137448To support my output through Buy Me A Coffee:https://buymeacoffee.com/markdevlinTo support me via Paypal.com donation, find me at paypal.com under the e-mail address markdevlinuk@gmail.comI've partnered as an affiliate with Above Phone. This lot are a conscious technology company that makes devices like de-Googled phones, laptops and tablets. The emphasis is always on avoiding the Big Tech tracking, surveillance and advertising targeting that comes with conventional suppliers. They also offer VPNs, private file sharing and video conferencing options.If you order any of their products through the following link you'll get a $25-off coupon by entering the code DJMARK, plus you'll be helping to support the continuation of my work in the process:abovephone.com/djmarkObtaining privacy in a world of surveillance and data gathering gone mad has become a revolutionary act!Real gold bullion available from this source. (Tax-Free (CGT, VAT), Allocated and Segregated Storage (London/Zurich), Pension (SIPP) Gold, Buy Back Guarantee:https://goldbullionpartners.co.uk/download-our-complimentary-guide-m-devlin/Natural/ organic health solutions from Clive De Carle:https://clivedecarle.ositracker.com/170240/11489

Host Jason English welcomes Stella Prince, hailed as the face of Gen Z folk, for a conversation recorded at AmericanaFest after her first official showcase at Nashville's female-owned venue, Anzie Blue. Prince reflects on growing up in Woodstock, New York, singing as a child with artists like Pete Seeger, and her early drive to work in music, including being a 12-year-old radio DJ spinning 1930s–40s big band and writing music reviews. She discusses making folk mainstream again, the generational appeal of the genre, and inspirations like Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez, and Judy Collins, plus contemporaries like Laufey. Prince describes building an all-women team, recording her debut EP in Laurel Canyon, and releasing her first sync—a Hallmark film featuring her reimagined “(They Long to Be) Close to You.” She also shares songwriting shaped by Gen Z anxiety, inflation, and newfound independence, and performs “Don't Think Twice, It's All Right” and her original “Good Luck Is Hard to Find.”00:00 Folk Across Generations00:28 Podcast Intro and Guest Setup02:42 AmericanaFest Milestone04:38 Why Folk Feels Real Now05:34 Making Folk Mainstream Again06:13 Gen Z Jazz Inspiration08:21 Woodstock Roots and Early Magic09:27 Radio DJ and Big Band Years11:00 DIY Hustle to Building a Team13:04 All Women Team and Industry Gaps13:45 Women on the Road14:42 Laurel Canyon Recording Dream15:23 Career First at 2116:26 EP Plans and Hallmark Sync17:57 Songwriting From Independence18:35 Gen Z Pressure and Anxiety20:55 Curiosity and Defining Success23:14 Live Performance Session26:04 Original Song Closing

In light of what the Epstein Files taught us about Bob Weir and Bohemian Grove, we ask the question: Is there any merit to the conspiracy theory regarding the Grateful Dead as a CIA psyop? What exactly was the band's relationship to the MK Ultra program and what's up with all those hippie pop stars with military and defense contractor parents? Plus, as always, your voicemails, texts, dms, emails and more. Check out our extensive archive for more great episodes like these: Episode 189 - Metallica Episode 34 - Jim Morrison To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In light of what the Epstein Files taught us about Bob Weir and Bohemian Grove, we ask the question: Is there any merit to the conspiracy theory regarding the Grateful Dead as a CIA psyop? What exactly was the band’s relationship to the MK Ultra program and what’s up with all those hippie pop stars with military and defense contractor parents? Plus, as always, your voicemails, texts, dms, emails and more. Check out our extensive archive for more great episodes like these: Episode 189 - Metallica Episode 34 - Jim Morrison See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tuesday in North Carolina and a band from the past with two members forming a duo gig as well. Let's hear some storied from the band Laurel Canyon East and 2 Far Gone with Sophia Phillips and Paul Quick. We will hear medleys of Neil Young, Crosby Stills and Nash, The Turtles and Bob Dylan s well as the duo and their cover of Killing The Blues and Sounds Of Silence

Ever the betting man, Tim takes us down memory lane as he talks about his track time wins and losses! Plus, could the Chicago Bears be moving to Indiana? Shoutout to The Foosh’s mom for her birthday! She’s going on a birthday cruise come Sunday, but to where we know not! Also, there’s still snow in the local mountains so it might be the best time to take the family up to Big Bear. Potholes a problem? Yes, especially in Burbank and the Laurel Canyon areas. Special guest Elex Michaelson chats about the latest news from CNN. People are trying to throw out Olympic 2028 chair Casey Wasserman due to emails he shared over 20 years ago with Jeffrey Epstein’s right-hand woman Ghislaine Maxwell. Mayor Karen Bass thinks he needs to go, but she never seems to get anything right.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For this episode we're joined — all the way from Laurel Canyon — by the husband-and-wife tag team that is Jeff Walker and Kim Gottlieb(-Walker). Married for 53 years, Jeff and Kim have worked in diverse capacities in the music business and talk about their experiences over those five-plus decades. We start with the couple's work together on monthly freesheet Music World, focusing on their 1973 encounters with Tom Waits and Gram Parsons (plus a 15-year-old Cameron Crowe tagging along). After audio clips of both Waits and Parsons, we hear a 1987 clip of Gram's great singing partner Emmylou Harris talking to Adam Sweeting about... Gram Parsons. Interweaving tales of Jeff's life as a publicity director and Kim's career as a photographer, we hear about Island Records, Jamaica and the couple's close relationship with Bob Marley, concluding with Jeff's account of being with Bob after the chief Wailer was shot by gunmen in 1976. After Jasper offers his thoughts on Bad Bunny's ICE-breaking half-time show at the Super Bowl, Kim channels her late '60s protesting self and eloquently summarises her feelings about staying sane in Trump's dystopian America. Finally, Mark quotes from newly-added library interviews with Captain Beefheart (1979) and David Thomas (1985), while Jasper hails Joe Muggs' 2021 piece about Joel Culpepper. Many thanks to special guests Kim Gottlieb-Walker and Jeff Walker. Visit Kim's website at lenswoman.com and read Jeff's writing on Rock's Backpages. Pieces discussed: Tom Waits: Thursday Afternoon, Sober as a Judge, Jackson Browne, Techno-Rock: Six Teutons And What Do You Get — A Programmed Sequencer And The Doppler Effect, Emmylou Harris audio, Captain Beefheart Pulls A Hat Out of His Rabbit, David Thomas: Unscrambling the egg man and Joel Culpepper: Almost Famous.

This week we deep dive into the whole history of one home in Laurel Canyon, with a number of owners connecting into our investigation. Our focus is 7708 Woodrow Wilson Drive, a beautiful English Country home built by Natalie Wood's parents, and where she begins her married life with Robert Wagner. Natalie sells the home in the 1960s to the "Earth Mother of Laurel Canyon" Cass Elliot, who entertains in grand style until her death in 1974. Musician Harry Nilsson enters the frame from here, with Ringo Starr as a featured player. Dan Aykroyd and Donna Dixon have many years in the home, eventually selling to Beverly D'Angelo in 2008. So many players in our universe floated in and out through the decades in this home, along with perhaps some actual floating ghosts. All the spooky encounters are also included in today's story! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Geffen is the money man behind Crosby, Stills and Nash, Guns N' Roses, Cher, Shrek, Gladiator, and even Cats the musical. Journalist Zing Tsjeng and BBC business editor Simon Jack tell the remarkable story of the Brooklyn boy who conquered Hollywood and became an entertainment mogul. From starting in a New York agency mailroom to the heart of Laurel Canyon's hippie-rock scene, David Geffen rubbed shoulders with almost every major cultural figure of the 20th century. Joni Mitchel wrote a song about him, and Cher dated him. Then he moved from the music industry to movies, founding DreamWorks with Steven Spielberg and building one of the world's most valuable art collections. Good Bad Billionaire is the podcast that explores the lives of the super-rich and famous, tracking their wealth, philanthropy, business ethics and success. There are leaders who made their money in Silicon Valley, on Wall Street and in high street fashion. From iconic celebrities and CEOs to titans of technology, the podcast unravels tales of fortune, power, economics, ambition and moral responsibility. Simon and Zing put their subjects to the test with a playful, totally unscientific scorecard — then hand the verdict over to you: are they good, bad, or simply billionaires? Here's how to contact the team: email goodbadbillionaire@bbc.com or send a text or WhatsApp to +1 (917) 686-1176. Find out more about the show and read our privacy notice at www.bbcworldservice.com/goodbadbillionaire

From Rolling Stone Magazine to the latest instagram feed, celebrity has always meant being seen and hopefully in the coolest way.  Icons are built on innate talent, personality and a well crafted image of who they are and want to be believed to be. Musicians in particular rely heavily on photographers to capture their essence and persona to become known legends. So when my dear, wildly creative, friend since the third grade, Brian Lima grew up to be an insanely talented and successful music photographer, I had to share him and his all access pass with you. Hang out with us as we shoot the s%#t like the old friends we are about our shared love/hate relationship with photography, the trajectory of his creative career in the music scene, Joni Mitchell at Newport Folk last year and so much more. Join us as we explore: How photography can shape how you look at life.What it means to be a seer in the world and its many lessons.How to fuel your creativity and stay in relationship with your art.The ways being present allows you to experience more of the momentThe unexpected way listening informs how you see and beyond. Connect with Robyn Ivy here: Website:: https://www.brianlima.com/Instagram:: https://www.instagram.com/limaphoto/ Quick note, I just want to say thank you for listening to this episode. I know it means a lot to myself and my guests.  If you enjoyed this episode, you will also like: Episode #46: Mary Jo Hoffman: Everyday Stillness Episode #42: Onne van der Wal: Live Your Adventure Episode #6o: Fred Poisson: Illuminating Creativity and Process   MORE ABOUT BRIAN LIMA: I remember getting my first couple of vinyl LP's as a kid and falling in love with the album art and the photography that told the visual story of the music I loved listening to. Anton Corbijn black & white images for The Joshua Tree by U2 blew my mind. Dennis Morris's candids and portraits of Bob Marley are magic, Henry Diltz's Laurel Canyon work just so dreamy. To this day I'm constantly inspired by so many other photographers work.   ​ I'm constantly in search of new projects and ideas. 2023 will mark 13 years of being one of the principal photographers for the historic Newport Folk Festival & Newport Jazz Festival. I'm proud of the images I'm creating with this amazingly talented team of creatives. ​ I'm also part of the creative team for Coachella Music Festival. 2020 is Coachella's 20th anniversary. It has been fun to watch this idea blossom into what it has become.   Staff Photographer :  Coachella Music Festival | Newport Folk Festival | Newport Jazz Festival | Stage Coach Music Festival | Day In Vegas Music Festival ​ Clients: ​Golden Voice Entertainment | AEG World Wide | TuneIn Radio | Rolling Stone Magazine | Billboard Magazine | New York Times

For the Imbalanced Brothers, Carole King's "Tapestry" is one of those albums that impacted their lives, albeit from different angles! It shows the evolution of the artist, who started young, as one half of a famous songwriting duo, but who through divorce became a solo act, encouraged by her new friends in Laurel Canyon. The impact of the album goes well-beyond the music. It empowered other women, to follow their singular dreams, to create, to become who they are! Lots of music in this episode, so kick back and enjoy the ride! Add your thoughts on the episodes in Spotify, on our Facebook page, or vial email: imbalancedhistory@gmail.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For the Imbalanced Brothers, Carole King's "Tapestry" is one of those albums that impacted their lives, albeit from different angles! It shows the evolution of the artist, who started young, as one half of a famous songwriting duo, but who through divorce became a solo act, encouraged by her new friends in Laurel Canyon. The impact of the album goes well-beyond the music. It empowered other women, to follow their singular dreams, to create, to become who they are! Lots of music in this episode, so kick back and enjoy the ride! Add your thoughts on the episodes in Spotify, on our Facebook page, or vial email: imbalancedhistory@gmail.com! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FULL SERIES AVAILABLE ON WWW.PATREON.COM/SOMEDARECALLITCONSPIRACY RIGHT NOW FOR MEMBERS OF OUR £5 AND £10 TIERS.Initiates, strap yourselves in because we are going down one hell of a rabbit hole.. we are finally diving into the "Satanic Illuminati Music Industry" conspiracy theory. Over the course of 13 episodes we will explore the full gamut of the Faustian Bargain-type mythos that your favourite musicians have allegedly entered with The Prince Of Darkness. Our springboard for this series is an interview on Ickonic entitled "Music Industry Rituals, MKULTRA & 27 Club Secrets" in which God's grandson, Gareth Icke interviews Coco Sianne Ryder - the daughter of Happy Monday's front man Shaun Ryder and Granddaughter of Folk legend Donovan. As per usual, these people provide no evidence or details of their claims.. so we figured we'd use this opportunity to examine and explore this subject from our unique perspectives as former conspiracy theorists and lay it all out for you.Topics include: Gareth Icke, Coco Ryder, The Happy Mondays, Donovan, Rick Rubin, System of a Down, The 27 club, The death of Kurt Cobain, The death of Brian Jones, Van Gogh, John Todd, Jack Chick, William Guy Carr, Fritz Springmeier, Robert Johnson, Faust and selling your soul, Tartini, Paganini, Jelly Roll Morton, Peetie Wheatstraw, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin, Aleister Crowely, Kenneth Anger, the curse of Led Zeppelin, The Illuminati in the music industry by Mark Dice, The 1991 meeting, Madonna, Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Ye, Drake, Jay Z, Beyonce, Lil Wayne, Professor Griff, Tupac, Talib Kweli, Prodigy, Malachi Z. York, Noreaga, Inspectah Deck, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor, Azaelia Banks, Kesha, The eye of providence, Satan and Heavy metal, Black Sabbath, Venom, Coven, Black Metal, Deicide, Shane Lynch, Ouija boards, The Rolling Stones, Mind control in pop music, The Beatles, Tavistock, Theodore Adorno, Foo Fighters, Ecstasy, John Potash, Dave McGowan, Courtney Love, The New York Dolls, The Heartbreakers, Laurel Canyon, Lookout Mountain film studio, Back Masking, Bono, Freemasons, The Krays, Cliff Richards, Elm House & Tony Blair.Enjoy!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

We continue our yearly Christian F**king Bale Month celebration with a look at the 2002 film, Laurel Canyon. Carla from Ok, Real Quick, and Erin A. join me to discuss Bale's performances, the other characters, and the love stories.You can watch the YouTube version here: https://youtu.be/Z8fuXqNVOE4You can follow us on Letterboxd at: https://letterboxd.com/itsafandomthing/Consider supporting us on Patreon: ⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/itsafandomthingpod⁠⁠.For links to our social media, visit our website: ⁠⁠https://itsafandomthingpod.com/⁠⁠Discord: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.com/invite/7aTTCAWZRx⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You can follow Fergie on TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@schroederandfergs⁠⁠Cover art by Carla Temis.Podcast logo by Erin Amos.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Legendary Los Angeles homicide detective Tom Lange breaks down five murder cases that still haunt him — cases involving corruption, serial killers, organized crime, and justice that never came. From the infamous Wonderland Murders to a cold case that found emotional closure decades later, Lange reveals details never discussed publicly.These are not theories. These are cases Lange personally investigated — and some still keep him up at night. WHAT'S COVERED IN THE EPISODE:Tom Lange's five murder cases that still haunt himThe Wonderland Murders and corruption that prevented convictionsJury tampering, paid judges, and bought-off witnessesThe Chester Marshall murder and the suspect who escaped justiceA cold case that unexpectedly found emotional closure decades laterThe Laurel Meeker murder and its chilling connection to the Skid Row StabberSerial killer behaviour during the rise of LA's murder epidemicA brutal organized crime message killing involving Miami cartels and LA dumpsitesWhy some murders were never solved — despite knowing the killersFor those fascinated by true crime, this episode of One Degree of Scandalous on Tom Zenner Scandal is an unmissable look at the sinister world of serial murderers and the tireless detectives determined to stop them.Subscribe to Tom Zenner Scandal:    / @tzscandal------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Connect with Tom on social media Facebook | http://bit.ly/3YJI1jH Instagram | http://bit.ly/3XJ1pvB Twitter | http://bit.ly/3lSjSsoConnect with Kato Instagram | http://bit.ly/3Z1GNjm Twitter | http://bit.ly/3Id4TB6 Listen to One Degree of Scandalous: Apple Podcasts | https://apple.co/41aWAyb PodcastOne | http://bit.ly/3KijDRP PlayerFM | https://bit.ly/3IEb8PE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/one-degree-of-scandalous-with-tom-zenner-and-kato-kaelin--6258576/support.

FULL SERIES AVAILABLE ON WWW.PATREON.COM/SOMEDARECALLITCONSPIRACY RIGHT NOW FOR MEMBERS OF OUR £5 AND £10 TIERS. Initiates, strap yourselves in because we are going down one hell of a rabbit hole.. we are finally diving into the "Satanic Illuminati Music Industry" conspiracy theory. Over the course of 13 episodes we will explore the full gamut of the Faustian Bargain-type mythos that your favourite musicians have allegedly entered with The Prince Of Darkness. Our springboard for this series is an interview on Ickonic entitled "Music Industry Rituals, MKULTRA & 27 Club Secrets" in which God's grandson, Gareth Icke interviews Coco Sianne Ryder - the daughter of Happy Monday's front man Shaun Ryder and Granddaughter of Folk legend Donovan. As per usual, these people provide no evidence or details of their claims.. so we figured we'd use this opportunity to examine and explore this subject from our unique perspectives as former conspiracy theorists and lay it all out for you. Topics include: Gareth Icke, Coco Ryder, The Happy Mondays, Donovan, Rick Rubin, System of a Down, The 27 club, The death of Kurt Cobain, The death of Brian Jones, Van Gogh, John Todd, Jack Chick, William Guy Carr, Fritz Springmeier, Robert Johnson, Faust and selling your soul, Tartini, Paganini, Jelly Roll Morton, Peetie Wheatstraw, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin, Aleister Crowely, Kenneth Anger, the curse of Led Zeppelin, The Illuminati in the music industry by Mark Dice, The 1991 meeting, Madonna, Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Ye, Drake, Jay Z, Beyonce, Lil Wayne, Professor Griff, Tupac, Talib Kweli, Prodigy, Malachi Z. York, Noreaga, Inspectah Deck, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor, Azaelia Banks, Kesha, The eye of providence, Satan and Heavy metal, Black Sabbath, Venom, Coven, Black Metal, Deicide, Shane Lynch, Ouija boards, The Rolling Stones, Mind control in pop music, The Beatles, Tavistock, Theodore Adorno, Foo Fighters, Ecstasy, John Potash, Dave McGowan, Courtney Love, The New York Dolls, The Heartbreakers, Laurel Canyon, Lookout Mountain film studio, Back Masking, Bono, Freemasons, The Krays, Cliff Richards, Elm House & Tony Blair. Enjoy!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

FULL SERIES AVAILABLE ON WWW.PATREON.COM/SOMEDARECALLITCONSPIRACY RIGHT NOW FOR MEMBERS OF OUR £5 AND £10 TIERS. Initiates, strap yourselves in because we are going down one hell of a rabbit hole.. we are finally diving into the "Satanic Illuminati Music Industry" conspiracy theory. Over the course of 13 episodes we will explore the full gamut of the Faustian Bargain-type mythos that your favourite musicians have allegedly entered with The Prince Of Darkness. Our springboard for this series is an interview on Ickonic entitled "Music Industry Rituals, MKULTRA & 27 Club Secrets" in which God's grandson, Gareth Icke interviews Coco Sianne Ryder - the daughter of Happy Monday's front man Shaun Ryder and Granddaughter of Folk legend Donovan. As per usual, these people provide no evidence or details of their claims.. so we figured we'd use this opportunity to examine and explore this subject from our unique perspectives as former conspiracy theorists and lay it all out for you. Topics include: Gareth Icke, Coco Ryder, The Happy Mondays, Donovan, Rick Rubin, System of a Down, The 27 club, The death of Kurt Cobain, The death of Brian Jones, Van Gogh, John Todd, Jack Chick, William Guy Carr, Fritz Springmeier, Robert Johnson, Faust and selling your soul, Tartini, Paganini, Jelly Roll Morton, Peetie Wheatstraw, John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Led Zeppelin, Aleister Crowely, Kenneth Anger, the curse of Led Zeppelin, The Illuminati in the music industry by Mark Dice, The 1991 meeting, Madonna, Britney Spears, Katy Perry, Ye, Drake, Jay Z, Beyonce, Lil Wayne, Professor Griff, Tupac, Talib Kweli, Prodigy, Malachi Z. York, Noreaga, Inspectah Deck, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga, Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor, Azaelia Banks, Kesha, The eye of providence, Satan and Heavy metal, Black Sabbath, Venom, Coven, Black Metal, Deicide, Shane Lynch, Ouija boards, The Rolling Stones, Mind control in pop music, The Beatles, Tavistock, Theodore Adorno, Foo Fighters, Ecstasy, John Potash, Dave McGowan, Courtney Love, The New York Dolls, The Heartbreakers, Laurel Canyon, Lookout Mountain film studio, Back Masking, Bono, Freemasons, The Krays, Cliff Richards, Elm House & Tony Blair. Enjoy!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/some-dare-call-it-conspiracy--5932731/support.

In this episode of The Audio Files, Brad Zerbo and Jaytriot take a deep dive into the infamous “27 Club,” exploring the eerie pattern of legendary musicians who died at the age of 27. The discussion traces the phenomenon from its mythic roots with Delta blues icon Robert Johnson through the devastating cluster of late 60s and early 70s losses, including Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, and Jim Morrison. The conversation examines the suspicious circumstances surrounding several of these deaths, the role of drugs, fame, and psychological pressure, and the darker conspiracy theories tied to Laurel Canyon, military intelligence connections, and cultural manipulation. The episode then moves into the modern revival of the 27 Club with Kurt Cobain and Amy Winehouse, questioning official narratives and highlighting inconsistencies that continue to fuel debate. Blending music history, cultural analysis, and conspiratorial inquiry, this episode asks whether the 27 Club is coincidence, curse, or something far more deliberate.

Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day for December 27, 2025 is: apropos • ap-ruh-POH • preposition Apropos is used as a preposition to mean "with regard to." It is frequently used in the phrase "apropos of." // Sean interrupted our conversation about politics and, apropos of nothing, asked who we thought would win the basketball game. As an adjective, apropos describes something that is suitable or appropriate, as in "an apropos nickname." See the entry > Examples: "Once, at the height of COVID, I dropped off a book at the home of Werner Herzog. I was an editor at the time and was trying to assign him a review, so I drove up to his gate in Laurel Canyon, and we had the briefest of masked conversations. Within 30 seconds, it turned strange. 'Do you have a dog? A little dog?' he asked me, staring out at the hills of Los Angeles, apropos of nothing. He didn't wait for an answer. 'Then be careful of the coyotes,' Herzog said." — Gal Beckerman, The Atlantic, 8 Jan. 2025 Did you know? Apropos wears its ancestry like a badge—or perhaps more fittingly a beret. From the French phrase à propos, meaning "to the purpose," the word's emphasis lands on its last syllable, which ends in a silent "s": ap-ruh-POH. Apropos typically functions as an adjective describing what is suitable or appropriate ("an apropos comment"), or as a preposition (with or without of) meaning "with regard to," as in "apropos (of) the decision, implementation will take some time." The phrase "apropos of nothing" is used to signal that what follows does not relate to any previous topic.

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ABOUT LUKE TYLER SHELTON: Luke Tyler Shelton's sound is one of soul-soothing rock-and-roll with a charm of a faraway time whose spirit and sensibilities recall the near-mythic creative hotbed of early-'70s Laurel Canyon. Luke's debut body of work merges country-rock, folk-pop, and Southern soul into songs that immediately transport the audience into a state of enchanted ease. ABOUT THE PODCAST:  Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & Live ABOUT THE HOSTS: All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ABOUT LUKE TYLER SHELTON: Luke Tyler Shelton's sound is one of soul-soothing rock-and-roll with a charm of a faraway time whose spirit and sensibilities recall the near-mythic creative hotbed of early-'70s Laurel Canyon. Luke's debut body of work merges country-rock, folk-pop, and Southern soul into songs that immediately transport the audience into a state of enchanted ease. ABOUT THE PODCAST:  Candid discussions with and about those behind the scenes in the music business including industry veterans representing the segments of: Musician, Design & Live ABOUT THE HOSTS: All three Music Buzzz Podcast hosts (Dane Clark, Hugh Syme and Andy Wilson) have spent their careers working with the biggest names in entertainment and have been, and still are, a fly on the wall. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Want more exclusive content?! http://prometheuslens.supercast.com to sign up for the "All Access Pass" and get early access to episodes, private community, members only episodes, private Q & A's, and coming documentaries. We also have a $4 dollar a month package that gets you early access and an ad free listening experience!==================== ABOUT: In this episode of the Prometheus Lens Podcast, host Doc Brown and guest Kevin delve into the intriguing history of Laurel Canyon, a cultural hub for artists and musicians during the 1960s. They explore the connections between the counterculture movement, government conspiracies like MKUltra, and significant events such as the Gulf of Tonkin incident.The conversation also touches on the influence of ancient Dionysian rituals on modern music and the importance of personal growth and mental health in navigating these complex topics. Through their discussion, they highlight the ongoing journey of self-discovery and the impact of societal influences on individual experiences. ==================== 

Love, lust, and heartbreak are the secret soundtrack of the LA canyons. In this episode of My Rock Moment we welcome Emmeline Summerton of Instagram's Lost Canyons LA, a historian of the LA Canyons and former writer of the New Topanga Times. Together we trace that soundtrack through eight songs — uncovering the romance, the messiness and the broken hearts behind the lyrics. We start with “Guinnevere,” David Crosby's mysterious song inspired by 3 women — Christine Hinton, Joni Mitchell, and the surprising third muse, “Delta Lady” — Leon Russell's ode to Rita Coolidge and the wild, studio-to-road romance that sent them straight into Joe Cocker's Mad Dogs tour. Then we move to the Mamas & the Papas' “Go Where You Wanna Go,” a sunny single born from the band's very messy affairs.    From there:  “Our House,” Graham Nash's tiny, perfect snapshot of life with Joni Mitchell in Laurel Canyon — ordinary moments made into a classic. Then Joni's own “All I Want' about her relationship with James Taylor. We'll also unpack “Leather and Lace,” the duet that reunited Stevie Nicks and Don Henley after a broken romance and leer jet flirtations; “Faithless Love,” J.D. Souther's devastating ballad given wings by Linda Ronstadt during their fraught romance and end with Neil Young's "A Man Needs a Maid" off of Harvest. This is a tour of romance and ruin, tenderness and betrayal — the songs that turned private heartbreak into something the rest of us could sing along to. We'll share the stories behind each track and the music that made the canyons heartbreak famous. Find out more about Emmeline Summerton of Lost Canyons LA: https://topanganewtimes.com/author/emmeline-summerton https://www.instagram.com/lostcanyonsla For more information on My Rock Moment and the Host, Amanda Morck: www.myrockmoment.com For more information on upcoming episodes and your regular dose of rock history follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/la_woman_rocks Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined once again by author, tv producer, and LA crime historian, Mr. Eli Frankel. Eli continues his exploration into the brutal and gruesome Wonderland Murders, which took place on July 1st, 1981 in Laurel Canyon, Los Angeles. Eli shines a spotlight on two of the most fascinating and dangerous main characters, Eddie Nash and Ron Launius. Eli previously joined us to discuss his fantastic book, Sisters In Death, which connects the murder of Leila Welsh (The Prairie Heiress) to Elizabeth Short (The Black Dahlia). The book is out on 10/27/25 and you can preorder your copy here: ⁠⁠https://www.sistersindeath.com/⁠⁠ Or here: ⁠⁠https://www.kensingtonbooks.com/9780806543789/sisters-in-death/⁠ Join us for a virtual live event with Eli on October 27th @ 9pmEST: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MissingCSM/streams⁠ Follow Eli: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/elifrankel_/⁠⁠ Go to ⁠⁠https://www.elibfrankel.com/⁠⁠ to learn more about our guest. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Private Investigations For the Missing Please donate if you can: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://investigationsforthemissing.org/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://piftm.org/donate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined again by the great television producer, author and LA crime historian, Mr. Eli Frankel. Eli delivers an incredible account of the brutal and gruesome Wonderland Murders, which took place on July 1st, 1981 in Laurel Canyon, Los Angeles. Eli previously joined us to discuss his fantastic book, Sisters In Death, which connects the murder of Leila Welsh (The Prairie Heiress) to Elizabeth Short (The Black Dahlia). The book is out on 10/27/25 and you can preorder your copy here: ⁠https://www.sistersindeath.com/⁠ Or here: ⁠https://www.kensingtonbooks.com/9780806543789/sisters-in-death/ Join us for a virtual live event with Eli on October 27th @ 9pmEST: https://www.youtube.com/@MissingCSM/streams Follow Eli: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/elifrankel_/⁠ Go to ⁠https://www.elibfrankel.com/⁠ to learn more about our guest. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Private Investigations For the Missing Please donate if you can: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://investigationsforthemissing.org/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://piftm.org/donate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 1st, 1981. Laurel Canyon, Los Angeles. Five people were viciously attacked inside a known drug house on Wonderland Avenue. Only one survived. The murders were soon linked to an adult film star and a wealthy nightclub owner with ties to the drug industry.For bonus episodes and outtakes visit: patreon.com/generationwhySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Adam opens the show with his thoughts on the media outrage surrounding immigration agents operating in L.A.'s MacArthur Park. He reflects on a past trip to Canada with Jimmy Kimmel to pitch The Man Show, then pivots to a viral post he made on X showcasing the lack of progress in Malibu's fire cleanup. Adam shares his growing annoyance with certain groups of people on Pacific Coast Highway, lists the types of vehicles that irritate him most, and reminisces about his unicycling days. He also explains the difference between spinning rims and floating rims.In the news, Elisha Krauss joins Adam to discuss a variety of headlines, including Trump joking about signing an executive order to officially rename soccer “football” in the U.S. They also react to reports that dozens of NYPD recruits are being forced to resign due to mental health and background check failures. Plus, a beat-up Hermès Birkin bag once owned by Jane Birkin just became the most expensive handbag ever sold at auction—fetching a whopping $10 million despite its rough condition.Later in the show, legendary poet and songwriter Stephen Kalinich joins Adam in the studio to talk about working with Brian and Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys, and what the Laurel Canyon music scene was really like in the '60s and '70s. Stephen shares his chilling story of meeting Charles Manson, and Adam talks about his love for songs with great lyrics—and his distaste for the ones without. They wrap with a philosophical discussion on golf and poetry, and Stephen reflects on the many incredible musicians and writers he's met throughout his storied career.Get it on.FOR MORE WITH STEPHEN KALINICH:NEW ALBUM: “I Love My Life” Available owINSTA: @stephenjkalinichFOR MORE WITH ELISHA KRAUSS: INSTAGRAM: @elishakraussWEBSITE: elishakrauss.com JOURNAL: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/author/elisha-krauss/Thank you for supporting our sponsors:BetOnline120Life.com - use code ADAMHims.com/ADAMGo to https://hometitlelock.com/adamcarolla and use promo code ADAM to get a FREE title history report so you can find out if you're already a victim AND 14 days of protection for FREE! And make sure to check out the Million Dollar TripleLock protection details when you get there! Exclusions apply. For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warrantyHomes.comoreillyauto.com/ADAMsimplisafe.com/ADAMPluto.tvLIVE SHOWS: July 16 - Rosemont, ILJuly 17 - Plymouth, WIJuly 19 - Plymouth, WIJuly 20 - Milwaukee, WISee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.