Podcast appearances and mentions of Katie Button

The restaurant industry has long struggled with the divide between front and back-of-house compensation. In this archive episode of The Pre-Shift Podcast, Chef Katie Button of Cúrate and La Bodega by Cúrate in Asheville reveals how she completely transformed her restaurant's pay structure after the pandemic shutdown. Katie details her journey from engineering PhD student to award-winning chef, and explains why she took the bold step of eliminating sub-minimum wage pay, implementing a weighted tip pool, and creating transparent pathways for advancement. She candidly discusses the challenges and benefits of this transformation, from staff reactions to financial adjustments, ultimately showing how creating more equitable compensation has strengthened her restaurant team and culture.ResourcesConnect with Katie Button on LinkedIn

The restaurant industry has long struggled with the divide between front and back-of-house compensation. In this archive episode of The Pre-Shift Podcast, Chef Katie Button of Cúrate and La Bodega by Cúrate in Asheville reveals how she completely transformed her restaurant's pay structure after the pandemic shutdown. Katie details her journey from engineering PhD student to award-winning chef, and explains why she took the bold step of eliminating sub-minimum wage pay, implementing a weighted tip pool, and creating transparent pathways for advancement. She candidly discusses the challenges and benefits of this transformation, from staff reactions to financial adjustments, ultimately showing how creating more equitable compensation has strengthened her restaurant team and culture.ResourcesConnect with Katie Button on LinkedIn

Katie Button is the renowned Asheville chef and co-founder of Cúrate restaurant. After Hurricane Helene devastated the Asheville region last September, the beloved North Carolina town faced unimaginable challenges — from prolonged water shortages to a near-total halt in tourism.Katie joins host Kerry Diamond to share how the community is rebuilding, the resilience of the local restaurant scene, and how her businesses are faring. She offers heartfelt insights on the recovery efforts and what listeners can do to support Asheville's revival.For Jubilee 2025 tickets, scholar, volunteer, and Bombesquad Booth applications, click here. To get our new Love Issue, click here. Visit cherrybombe.com for subscriptions and show transcripts. More on Chef Katie: Instagram, website,  "Cúrate" CookbookMore on Kerry: Instagram

Today's guest, Katie Button is a five-time James Beard Foundation award nominated chef, cookbook author, media personality, and founder of Asheville-based restaurants Cúrate and La Bodega by Cúrate. The restaurant group also includes an online marketplace, Cúrate at Home, a wine club and culinary tour company called Cúrate Trips, designed to connect people with the Spanish experience.Katie earned a Master's degree in Biomedical Engineering, but her passion for food and travel ultimately guided her towards a career in the food world. Though immersed in the industry at a young age, she ultimately honed her craft in the kitchens of some of the world's best chefs, most notably Ferran Adrià and José Andrés. This experience guided her to her own success as a restaurateur, Button Meana Group founder, and Cúrate lifestyle brands.Today, Button Meana Group houses Katie Button Media and Magnolia Network's From The Source, a series exploring the origins and stories behind different ingredients. Katie's bread and butter, however, are the Button Meana Group-owned Cúrate Brands: Cúrate Trips, Cúrate at Home and Cúrate Wine Club, as well as two restaurants, La Bodega by Cúrate and Cúrate Bar de Tapas, which won the James Beard Foundation Outstanding Hospitality award in 2022. In 2016, Katie also released her first cookbook, Cúrate: Authentic Spanish Food from an American Kitchen. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/howdshedothat/support

Today on our episode #400 (!) of All in the Industry® — a true milestone; Shari Bayer is on-location with her guest Michael Mina, award-winning chef, founder and executive chairman of MINA Group, a collection of over 30 chef-driven concepts, including PABU, Sorelle, MINA's Fish House, The Bungalow Kitchen by Michael Mina, and Bourbon Steak, across the Bay Area, Los Angeles, New York, Hawaii and beyond. Born in Cairo, Egypt and raised in Ellensburg, Washington, Michael began his epicurean journey at the Culinary Institute of America in Hyde Park, NY, and gained hands-on experience working in Chef Charlie Palmer's kitchen at the upscale Aureole in NYC. Now Michael has returned to where his career started with the opening of Bourbon Steak New York, his first NYC restaurant located inside the newly renovated JW Marriott Essex House New York on Central Park South. Michael has been honored with numerous accolades over the years, including a Michelin star at MICHAEL MINA, James Beard Foundation's “Who's Who of Food & Beverage” inductee, Bon Appétit's Chef of the Year, and most recently named one of the “50 Most Powerful People in American Fine Dining” by Robb Report. Michael and his collection of restaurants have been featured across national media outlets from Food & Wine, to Food Network & TODAY, and he has cooked for three U.S. presidents: Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama. Shari sat down with Michael at Bourbon Steak New York over the summer to talk about his impressive career and restaurants, and why he decided to open now in NYC. Today's show also features Shari's PR tip to stay the path; Speed Round; Industry News on Hurricane Helene and how it's impacted the F+B community in Asheville and beyond -- sharing a recent message from acclaimed chef and restaurateur Katie Button of Curate and La Bodega by Curate in Ashevile; and how we can help (see links below); and Solo Dining experience at Quique Dacosta's 3-Michelin star, namesake restaurant, Quique Dacosta, in Denia, Spain, where Shari had an extraordinary solo lunch and travel adventure, taking the ferry from Ibiza to Denia for a daytrip. Here's to 400 Episodes! Thanks, as always, for being a part of All in the Industry®. Ways to support the F+B community and more affected by Hurricane Helene:NCRLA - NC Restaurant & Lodging Associationrecovery.ncrla.orgSouthern Smoke Foundationsouthernsmoke.orgWorld Central Kitchendonate.wck.org••• Listen at Heritage Radio Network; subscribe/rate/review our show at iTunes, Stitcher or Spotify. Follow us @allindustry. Thanks for being a part of All in the Industry®. Heritage Radio Network is a listener supported nonprofit podcast network. Support All in the Industry by becoming a member!All in the Industry is Powered by Simplecast.

If you're enjoying About the Journey, we think you'll love Longer Tables with Chef José Andrés. Each episode, world renowned chef José Andrés welcomes friends from the worlds of culinary and creative arts, politics and media to pull up a chair at the table. Together, they dig in to find out how food shapes the world and makes us who we are.This week, we're rolling José's conversation with Asheville, North Carolina-based chef and restaurateur Katie Button. Katie's journey started with the moment she decided to leave her PhD in neuroscience to pursue her passion: food. She shares the story of her pivot — and how José's team took a chance on hiring her. That moment opened up Katie's world, allowing her to fall in love with the flavors of Spain.Listen on to hear how Katie nurtured that love to create a Spanish tapas restaurant in Asheville that marries local ingredients with beloved traditional Spanish dishes.  About the Journey is a podcast produced by Marriott Bonvoy Traveler, AT WILL MEDIA, MNTRA, and Oneika Raymond. Listen and follow the show here.To read full episode transcripts from About the Journey and see photos of each featured destination, head to About the Journey on Marriott Bonvoy Traveler. Starting this season, you can watch full videos of each episode on the Marriott Bonvoy YouTube channel.

Welcome to our CHEF Radio, where we dive into the secrets of maintaining success in the restaurant business with industry leaders Mary Milliken, Susan Fingar, Phillip Krajeck, Katie Button, and Michael Anthony. In this episode, we explore three key strategies for sustained success: fostering innovation, building a strong team, and maintaining exceptional quality. Hear firsthand from these accomplished chefs as they share their insights and experiences on how to keep pushing the boundaries, continually improve, and never rest on their laurels in the ever-evolving culinary world. Whether you're an aspiring restaurateur or a seasoned pro, this hard hitting episode is packed with valuable advice to help you thrive in the restaurant industry. Show notes: Starting a Restaurant: Essential Steps Challenges of Maintaining Success Insights from Mary Sue Milliken and Susan Feniger Maximizing Every Opportunity Marathon Mindset and Motivation Insights from Chef Phillip Krajeck Athlete's Mindset Emotional Intelligence and Leadership Insights from Chef Katie Button Hospitality in the Kitchen Insights from Mike Anthony The 49% - 51% mentality A huge shout out to our sponsor, Singer Equipment for their unwavering support, which allows us to be able to bring these conversations to you. Check out their website for all the amazing equipment they can supply your restaurant with to make your team more efficient and successful. If you are looking for the best in class pizza oven for your next concept, make sure you check out the incredible ovens built by Moretti Forni and reach out to Greg Listino at their exclusive Northeast dealer, Rosito Bisani. Meez, is one of the most powerful tools you can have as a cook and chef because it allows you to have a free repository for all of your recipes, techniques and methods so that you never lose them. Meez does way more than just recipe development though; it's an incredibly powerful tool that any chef or restaurant would benefit from. My favorite new beer on the market, Kenwood Original, might be the most drinkable and most flavorful craft lager I've ever tried. Nothing goes better with a five star meal than a five star beer so head to their website and check out the Kenny Finder for location nearest you. So before we get started, go ahead and grab yourself a Kenny and enjoy this week's guest. Subscribe, like and share! Oh yeah, and throw in a review while you're at it. Appreciate you all!

Matt connects with Asheville chef and James Beard winner, Katie Button to talk about finding success through inspiration, resilience and consistency. 

The North Carolina restaurateur may not be Spanish, but according to José, she's one of the most inspiring chefs cooking Spanish food in America today. As Katie explains, this was not the original plan.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Are Jeff and Katie Button destined to be best friends? Find out in this week's episode of Talking 'Ship where the two put their "friendship" to the test. Jeff talks with Katie about how she's gained success and notoriety - From starting Cúrate in the early 2010s to landing TV gigs on the Magnolia Network, ventures that didn't work out (RIP Button & Co. Bagels) and her newest ventures La Bodega and Cúrate at Home.The two also discuss Katie's involvement in Venture Asheville's Elevate Program - our mentorship-based incubator which recently helped startups surpass $50M capital raised and $100M in revenue - read about it here.Another edition of Seed, Shop or Shutter + Katie's favorite Asheville eats - from Neng Jr.'s to Little Chango.Thanks to our sponsor, HomeTrust Bank for their support. You can learn more about HomeTrust at htb.com.Talking 'Ship is hosted by Jeffrey Kaplan, the Director of Venture Asheville, a program of the Asheville-Buncombe Economic Development Coalition and the Asheville Area Chamber of Commerce.This episode was recorded on April 28, 2023. 

The Pre-Shift Podcast presented by 7shifts breaks down everything you've ever wanted to know about running a restaurant better. Conversations with some of the biggest names, newest players, and industry innovators bring key insights into how they grew their businesses.  Host DJ Costantino asks probing questions to get to know restauranteurs, chefs, and executives better and find out where they came from, how they got to where they are, and what lessons they learned along the way. On this episode, we're joined by Katie Button, CEO / Co-Founder of Katie Button Restaurants:  Cúrate, La Bodega by Cúrate, Cúrate Trips, curateathome.comGuest BioAsheville, North Carolina's beloved Cúrate, a collection of restaurants, online marketplace, wine club and culinary journeys designed to create exceptional and experiential access to Spanish culture. A Southern chef with a scientific mind, Button honed her craft in the kitchens of some of the world's best chefs, most notably Ferran Adrià and José Andrés, before venturing out to open Cúrate Bar de Tapas with husband Felix Meana and her family. Since, they have grown the Cúrate brand to include Cúrate Trips, Cúrate Spanish Wine Club, Cúrate at Home and most recently, La Bodega by Cúrate. Cúrate is part of the Katie Button Restaurants family, which includes Katie Button Media and Magnolia Network's From The Source, a series exploring the origins and stories behind different ingredients.Among her many accolades, chef Katie Button was featured as one of Food & Wine's 2015 Best New Chefs. Cúrate was named as one of the "40 Most Important Restaurants of the Past 40 Years" by Food & Wine and one of the "Most Important Restaurants of the Decade" by Esquire. In 2016, Button released her first cookbook, Cúrate: Authentic Spanish Food from an American Kitchen.In 2022, the James Beard Foundation nominated Katie for a 2022 Best Chefs in America: Southeast award and Cúrate Bar de Tapas won the Outstanding Hospitality award. Throughout it all, Katie continues to challenge the industry standard, steadily building comprehensive benefits to create a sustainable work environment for her living wage-certified restaurant group. She also is an active participant in the James Beard Foundation's Impact programs and is currently serving on the Independent Restaurant Coalition's leadership team.   Additional ResourcesCúrateLa Bodega by CúrateCúrate TripsJust EconomicsListen, rate, and subscribe!SpotifyApple PodcastsGoogle PodcastsYouTubeTikTok7shifts BlogCreditsHost & Executive Producer: D.J. CostantinoEditor: Fina CharlestonProducer: Samantha FungDesigner: Jake Sinclair

The Pre-Shift Podcast presented by 7shifts breaks down everything you've ever wanted to know about running a restaurant better. Conversations with some of the biggest names, newest players, and industry innovators bring key insights into how they grew their businesses.  Host DJ Costantino asks probing questions to get to know restauranteurs, chefs, and executives better and find out where they came from, how they got to where they are, and what lessons they learned along the way. On this episode, we're joined by Katie Button, CEO / Co-Founder of Katie Button Restaurants:  Cúrate, La Bodega by Cúrate, Cúrate Trips, curateathome.comGuest BioAsheville, North Carolina's beloved Cúrate, a collection of restaurants, online marketplace, wine club and culinary journeys designed to create exceptional and experiential access to Spanish culture. A Southern chef with a scientific mind, Button honed her craft in the kitchens of some of the world's best chefs, most notably Ferran Adrià and José Andrés, before venturing out to open Cúrate Bar de Tapas with husband Felix Meana and her family. Since, they have grown the Cúrate brand to include Cúrate Trips, Cúrate Spanish Wine Club, Cúrate at Home and most recently, La Bodega by Cúrate. Cúrate is part of the Katie Button Restaurants family, which includes Katie Button Media and Magnolia Network's From The Source, a series exploring the origins and stories behind different ingredients.Among her many accolades, chef Katie Button was featured as one of Food & Wine's 2015 Best New Chefs. Cúrate was named as one of the "40 Most Important Restaurants of the Past 40 Years" by Food & Wine and one of the "Most Important Restaurants of the Decade" by Esquire. In 2016, Button released her first cookbook, Cúrate: Authentic Spanish Food from an American Kitchen.In 2022, the James Beard Foundation nominated Katie for a 2022 Best Chefs in America: Southeast award and Cúrate Bar de Tapas won the Outstanding Hospitality award. Throughout it all, Katie continues to challenge the industry standard, steadily building comprehensive benefits to create a sustainable work environment for her living wage-certified restaurant group. She also is an active participant in the James Beard Foundation's Impact programs and is currently serving on the Independent Restaurant Coalition's leadership team.   Additional ResourcesCúrateLa Bodega by CúrateCúrate TripsJust EconomicsListen, rate, and subscribe!SpotifyApple PodcastsGoogle PodcastsYouTubeTikTok7shifts BlogCreditsHost & Executive Producer: D.J. CostantinoEditor: Fina CharlestonProducer: Samantha FungDesigner: Jake Sinclair

Whenever a cook asks me for my advice when they are starting out, I always tell them to find the best chef they can and then just put your head down and work hard for them. This strategy is nearly bulletproof and will almost always pay dividends down the road, even if you don't think so right away.  And that's exactly how chef Katie Button, of Asheville, North Carolina, did it when she got her first job working at Café Atlantico in Washington, DC, when José Andrés was early in building his empire of restaurants. After meeting her Spanish-born husband, Félix Meana, she went to Roses, Spain, to work at the all-time great restaurant, El Bulli, where she started off as a server but naturally migrated into the kitchen to work with Albert Adrià. By seeking out excellence and working in these world-class restaurants, she developed many of the necessary skills to run a successful kitchen when she was ready. There are so many great nuggets of information and inspiration, but here are some of the highlights: Learning how to show gratitude and appreciation towards your team Why a good leader sometimes just need to be quiet and give their team the space to find the answer for themselves, thereby creating personal ownership over the project Growing up in a southern household in New Jersey Obtaining a biomolecular engineering degree at Cornell and how aspects of it continue to help her in business today Living in Paris and falling in love with the food culture Applying for a server position to make a couple dollars as she was beginning to study for a PhD How she got a position at Café Atlantico and minibar in DC The person who hired her and changed her life path, and how chefs can have the same impact on your employees today. Screwing up as a server at El Bulli and how she'll never forget that moment Serving the rabbit innards on its own crispy ear and radish lychees How her mother was the catalyst for Katie and Félix to open Cúrate Why Asheville, NC just felt right for them to put down roots How José Andrés and his team saved their hide just a couple days before the opening of their first restaurant Why they keep it simple at Cúrate and La Bodega and allow the ingredients to speak for themselves The difficult decisions of having to close a restaurant and pivot, even if it's the most perfect concept in your mind Her TV show, From The Source, and how her experiences on it have shifted her perspective as a chef Her mind blowing epiphany with artisan single-origin and hyper-seasonal maple syrup from Zoer Tapatree Her first cookbook and the one she is now developing The importance of good systems in your kitchen and why it is one of the cornerstones of being successful The ups and downs of running a restaurant when you care so deeply about every aspect of the business How a chef can set the example of hospitality in their restaurant, even if they are not touching tables in the dining room The importance of chefs helping to improve their communities around them and why we are the connection between the restaurant and the community Connect with Katie here Check out Cúrate here Check out La Bodega here A huge shout out to our sponsors, Maxwell McKenney and Singer Equipment, for their unwavering support, which allows us to be able to bring these conversations to you. Check out their websites for all the amazing equipment they can supply your restaurant with to make your team more efficient and successful. www.maxmck.com  www.singerequipment.com

Chef Katie Button sits down with Christine Sykes Lowe to chat the journey of her culinary passion, the very recent Outstanding Hospitality James Beard win, and the constantly growing Curate brand- all the while keeping at the core, philanthropy and mission driven team values.HRN On Tour is powered by Simplecast.

On today's episode of All in the Industry®, Shari Bayer has a special “On the Road” show from the 2022 James Beard Awards in Chicago, which took place from June 11-13 in Chicago, IL. Shari's coverage includes her exclusive red carpet interviews with nominees and presenters at the Chef and Restaurant Awards at the Lyric Opera House, with a bit of our Speed Round game too! Plus, Shari has interviews with some of the winners during the awards ceremony and celebration (listed below). Congratulations to everyone! It was a wonderful awards weekend! Today's show also features Shari's PR tip to celebrate your journey; and Solo Dining experience at Chef Jason Vincent's Giant in Chicago. 2022 James Beard Awards -- Shari's red carpet and awards ceremony interviews in chronological order:Damian Sansonetti, Chaval, Portland, MENominee: Best Chef: Northwest and PacificRuben Ortega, Xochi, Houston, TX Nominee: Outstanding Pastry ChefZak Stern, Zak the Baker, Miami, FLNominee: Outstanding Baker Irene Li, Mei Mei Dumplings and Prepshift, Boston, MALeadership WinnerMavis Jay-Sanders, Drive Change, NYCLeadership WinnerChristian ClemensonActor playing James Beard, HBO Max series “Julia” JJ Johnson, FIELDTRIP, NYCNominee: Best Chef: New York StateLydia Chang, Pichet Ong, and *Peter Chang, Peter Chang, VA and MD*Nominee: Outstanding Chef(Lydia translates)Chintan Pandya and Roni Mazumdar, Dhamaka, NYCWinner: Best Chef: New York StateNominee: Best New Restaurant, NYCCaroline Schiff, Gage & Tollner, NYCNominee: Outstanding Pastry ChefKatie Button and Felix Meana, Curate, Asheville, NCWinner: Outstanding HospitalityNominee: Best Chef: SoutheastTiffany Derry, Roots Southern Table, Farmers Branch, TXNominee: Best New RestaurantNominee: Best Chef: TexasCheetie Kumar, Garland, Raleigh, NCNominee: Best Chef: SoutheastChris Williams, Lucille's Hospitality Group, Houston, TXNominee: Outstanding RestaurateurAyesha Nurdjaja, Shukette, NYCNominee: Best Chef: New York StateYia Vang, Union Hmong Kitchen, Minneapolis, MNNominee: Best Chef: MidwestManeet Chauhan, Morph Hospitality Group, Nashville, TNPresenterClare Reichenbach, CEOJames Beard FoundationEllen Yin, High Street Hospitality Group, Philadelphia, PANominee: Outstanding RestaurateurSheldon Simeon, Tin Roof, Kahului, HINominee: Best Chef: Northwest and PacificClaudia Fleming, Union Square Hospitality Group, NYCPresenter**Justin Chearno, The Four Horseman, Brooklyn, NYCWinner: Outstanding Wine ProgramAlba Huerta, Julep, Houston, TXWinner: Outstanding Bar ProgramBrandon Jew, Mister Jiu's, San Francisco, CAWinner: Best Chef: CaliforniaWinner (Media Awards): Best Restaurant and Professional Book (with Tiehlon Ho)Grace YoungHumanitarian of the YearErick Williams, Virtue Restaurant & Bar, Chicago, ILWinner: Best Chef: Great LakesKatie Button and Felix Meana, Curate, Asheville, NCWinner: Outstanding HospitalityNominee: Best Chef: SoutheastMeherwan Irani, Chai Pani, Asheville, NCWinner: Outstanding RestaurantMartin Yan Lifetime Achievement Award**Photo Courtesy of Shari Bayer.Listen at Heritage Radio Network; subscribe/rate/review our show at iTunes, Stitcher or Spotify. Follow us @allindustry. And check out Shari Bayer's YouTube Channel for two #JBFA videos with red carpet highlights and more! Thanks for being a part of All in the Industry®. HRN is home to transformative exchanges about food. Our 35+ member-supported food podcasts empower eaters to cultivate a radically better world. This month, we're asking you to join us. Become a monthly sustaining member at heritageradionetwork.org/donate.All in the Industry is Powered by Simplecast.

In today's episode, I talk with Chef, restaurateur, cookbook author and now host of her own show - Katie Button. We talk about her early influences in cooking, the restaurant that she co-owns with her husband Felix in Asheville - Curate and, of course, her new show on the Magnolia network, From the Source. I reached out to Katie after I watched the first season of her show because i was drawn to her enthusiasm and really enjoyed the attention that she brought to the people growing and producing the ingredients she loved to cook with. It's a fun conversation with Katie whose energy is as infectious as her curiosity is compelling. Katie Button is the JBFA-nominated co-founder and CEO of Asheville, NC's beloved Cúrate, a collection of restaurants, online marketplace, wine club and culinary journeys designed to create exceptional and experiential access to Spanish culture. Before opening Cúrate Bar de Tapas in 2011 with husband Felix Meana, Katie honed her craft in the kitchens of some of the world's best chefs. With over a decade of bringing the flavors and culinary traditions of Spain to guests, the Cúrate brand now includes La Bodega by Cúrate, Cúrate Trips, and Cúrate at Home and Cúrate Spanish Wine Club. You can watch her show on the Magnolia Network or on Discovery plus. Season Two of the podcast is sponsored by Savannah Hydroponics and Organics, Chelsea Green Publishing and Morning Belle Farms! We're so grateful for our sponsors who make it possible to continue to shed light on the importance of local sustainable food systems! A big thank you also to our Community Builders: Haylards Restaurant Group, Brighter Day and the Sentient Bean for their support! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/southernsoil/message

In today's episode of EPIC Entrepreneurs, Bill chats with Katie Button, professional chef, CEO and co-founder of the Cúrate and La Bodega Restaurants. She also operates Cúrate at Home and Cúrate Trips.   You'll discover how Katie found her way into the restaurant industry despite attaining a master's degree in biomedical engineering.   You'll discover how the COVID -19 pandemic severely impacted Katie's restaurant and how they recovered.   You'll learn about Katie's exciting project with Magnolia Network.   Join Bill and Katie in this riveting and value-packed discussion.   Enjoy!   What You'll Learn in this Show: How Katie's engineering degree comes in handy when it comes to running her business. Why you need to find your passion and your purpose. The significance of foresight in business. The most important lessons Katie has learned as a business owner. And so much more…   Resources: EPIC Entrepreneurs

The start of 2020 was an especially weird time for me—not just for the obvious reasons with the pandemic swirling around us in those early stages—but because right at the cusp of it I signed a book deal. I'd come up with the rough idea and concept for Modern British Beer in 2018, having thought at length about how the emergence of well over 1000 new breweries in the UK had changed our beer culture forever. But what I didn't realise then was the idea needed time. Some of that was to allow the idea to properly gestate and to become fully formed, but the rest of it was waiting to find the right home for it. That home turned out to be the capable hands of CAMRA Books; the publishing arm of the Campaign for Real Ale, and the gracious editing of Alan Murphy and Katie Button, to whom I am incredibly thankful. In this episode I work through the ideas at the book's core. I explore how I created my own personal beer philosophy, which I call “the broad spectrum of joy” as well as explaining why my definition of what constitutes beer as being “modern”, at least, in context of the book and how I think about beer these days. I then try to explain (or make excuses for) how I selected the 86 beers to use as case studies which, together, I hope form a solid case for how I feel beer in the UK has changed so dramatically over the past 20 years—but also, in many ways, has stayed exactly the same as it has always been.I've also used this episode as a chance to pick up on some current affairs—namely, the controversy presently surrounding Denmark's Mikkeller Brewing company in the wake of numerous accusations of sexual harassment and toxic workplace culture from several former employees. This situation escalated on the eve of the brewery's annual Mikkeller Beer Celebration Copenhagen (MBCC) event in late October, which saw over 40 breweries pull out at the 11th hour so as not to associate their brand with the accused. Kate Bernot at Good Beer Hunting has been covering this in some detail for several months, and I recommend catching up on what's happening by reading her excellent reporting here:https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2021/7/1/former-mikkeller-employees-allege-culture-of-bullying-harassment-and-indifferencehttps://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2021/10/29/mikkeller-meetings-a-chaotic-situation-as-brewery-focuses-on-hr-issues-not-survivors-voicesModern British Beer is available now from all good retailers, including several brewery tap rooms and bottle shops. You can get yours direct from the publisher here:https://shop1.camra.org.uk/product-category/modern-british-beer/

Explore the Mediterranean through acclaimed food and wine experiences with Felix Meana of CÚRATE. Felix is a pioneer of sustainable food systems and promotes eco tourism, conservation, and mindful travel.Felix and his wife, Chef Katie Button, have many endeavors through Katie Button Restaurants, including CÚRATE Tapas Bar and La Bodega by CÚRATE. They're changing the industry at its core by doing what they love.Felix's close relationships with importers and wineries throughout Spain and his hyper-focus on guest experience is integral to the CÚRATE brand. CÚRATE Trips allow guests to experience fascinating and unique culinary destinations first-hand. Felix explains how priceless insider access, life-long connections and a tantalizing insight into the food that shapes the cultural essence of every locale on the itinerary is what makes a CÚRATE Trip so memorable and exciting. And speaking of tours, think how fun it is to discover new cities on a local tour, with a local tour guide. Also on Speaking of Travel is Kevan Frazier, owner and operator of Asheville by Foot Walking Tours. Find out what makes a good walking tour and why you should try one. If you're thinking of traveling by air soon, remember all airports have different rules and guidelines so it's important to check on the official information at each airport and be thoroughly prepared for your trip. Find out all the latest in the aviation and airline industries with Tina Kinsey of the Asheville Regional Airport.

Chef Katie Button and her husband run an Asheville, NC restaurant group that includes Cúrate, one of America’s finest Spanish restaurants. In this interview recorded in 2019, she talks about making bagels in biscuit country, and how restaurants can be better workplaces for women. Show notes: Cúrate Restaurant Katie Button’s Announcement about the Closure of Button & Co. Bagels Vegetables Unleashed El Bulli Foundation Asheville’s Downtown Welcome Table Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chef Katie Button and her husband run an Asheville, NC restaurant group that includes Cúrate, one of America’s finest Spanish restaurants. In this interview recorded in 2019, she talks about making bagels in biscuit country, and how restaurants can be better workplaces for women. Show notes: Cúrate Restaurant Katie Button’s Announcement about the Closure of Button & Co. Bagels Vegetables Unleashed El Bulli Foundation Asheville’s Downtown Welcome Table Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We speak with Katie Button - CEO and Executive Chef at Cúrate Restaurant and Button & Co. Bagels.  Katie is a James Beard award winning chef and has been a fierce advocate for independent restaurants during the hardships of the pandemic.  She speaks of the challenges of reopening and of the path forward.  She highlights the restaurant relief bill working its way through congress and how that is so important to keep our favorite restaurants open and existing - even Post Covid.  She brings a lot of philosophical and cultural views to the conversation and reminds us of the important interconnected nature of restaurants to farmers, distributers, butchers and more.  We also hit on the issues of reopening and the customers who don't enjoy adhering to the new rules.  We so enjoyed speaking with Katie.      

This week on Weekly Specials, we hear from a few friends around the country and also reflect a bit on what the past few months have done to our industry. We head to Houston, Texas where Tracy Vaught of H-Town Restaurants shares what reopening her dining rooms has been like. We hear from Katie Button and her team at Cúrate and Button & Co. Bagels on what they can't wait to do once their restaurants open, in a new installment of #icantwait.

Join us this Sunday with Anna and Katie Button for a raw conversation about where God is in seasons of grief.

On today's episode of All in the Industry®, host Shari Bayer has a special “On the Road” edition on the Philly Chef Conference at Drexel University in Philadelphia, PA, and South Beach Wine & Food Festival in Miami Beach, Florida. Shari tips off the show from the Philly Chef Conference, which took place March 1, 2020, with her PR tip, followed by a live broadcast with Katie Button, Executive Chef and CEO of Katie Button Restaurants, which includes Cúrate Bar de Tapas and Button & Co. Bagels in Asheville, NC. A three-time James Beard Award nominee, Katie honed her craft in the kitchens of some of the world's best chefs, most notably Ferran Adrià and José Andrés, before venturing out to open her own restaurant. In the years since, she’s received numerous accolades, including Food & Wine's 2015 Best New Chefs; Cúrate as one of Food & Wine’s "40 Most Important Restaurants of the Past 40 Years," and one of Esquire’s "Most Important Restaurants of the Decade." In 2016, she released her first cookbook, Cúrate: Authentic Spanish Food from an American Kitchen, and in 2019, debuted Asheville’s culinary festival Chow Chow as board president. Through it all, Katie continues to challenge the industry standard, building comprehensive benefits to create a sustainable work environment for her living wage-certified restaurant group. Following, Shari gives her recap of the 19th annual Food Network and Cooking Channel South Beach Wine & Food Festival presented by Capital One, which took place February 19-23, 2020 in South Beach, Florida. To date, the Festival has raised more than $30 million for the School with its mission to EAT. DRINK. EDUCATE. Shari also shares her solo dining experience at Philadelphia's K'far, an all-day café and bakery inspired by the food, energy and warmth of Israeli bakeries that chef Mike Solomonov experienced at his very first kitchen job outside of Tel Aviv. Listen at Heritage Radio Network; subscribe/rate/review our show at iTunes, Stitcher or Spotify. Follow us @allindustry. Thanks for being a part of All in the Industry! #allindustry All in the Industry is powered by Simplecast.  

The Radio Cherry Bombe Food For Thought tour stopped in Asheville, North Carolina, for a live episode during the city’s inaugural Chow Chow food festival. Chef Ashleigh Shanti of Benne on Eagle, chocolatier Jael Rattigan of French Broad Chocolate, and Dr. Cynthia Greenlee spoke about what’s on their mind when it comes to the food world.They are followed by a panel featuring Chef Katie Button of Katie Button Restaurants in Asheville, Chef Vivian Howard of the award-winning TV program A Chef’s Life, Chef Cheetie Kumar of Garland in Raleigh, and Radio Cherry Bombe host Kerry Diamond.    Thank you to Kerrygold, the makers of beautiful butter and cheese, for supporting our tour.

Katie Button (2x James Beard nominated Chef, Restaurateur) is the founder and chef of world-renowned restaurant Cúrate and President of the Chow Chow Food festival. She sits down with hosts Rob Gray and Ali McGhee to chat about her early days; travels around the world with her family, college years living in France and more! This was recorded back in September 2019IG: @wewereyoungpodcast FB: We Were Young

By the time you read this, Katie Button will be back at her restaurant and bagel shop in Asheville, NC, but she was away for a few weeks, in residence at Chefs Club in New York City. That's a terrifying thing to do when it's your own business, but Button trusts her staff at Cúrate Tapas Bar and Button & Co. Bagels, and they get to develop some new skills while she's away. It's important to her to invest in her team's development in all different ways—like paying a living wage, offering healthcare, creating incentives for employees who stick around for a certain amount of years—both because she cares, and because it makes her take a good, hard look at the kind of life she'd like for herself. During her tenure in NYC, Button opened up about the importance of therapy, the impact of a "vampire schedule" when you have a family, and the pressures of owning a business.

Chef Katie Button, the chef and co-owner of two restaurants in Asheville, North Carolina: Cúrate Tapas Bar and Button & Co. Bagels, was born in South Carolina and raised in New Jersey. Chef Button has worked for Jose Andres and Ferran Adria at elBulli before returning to the South to open up her restaurant Curate in 2011 with her husband Felix. The restaurant and Katie have received tons of accolades: she was a finalist for the James Beard Rising Star Chef Award in 2014, and a nominee for the Foundation's Best Chef: Southeast Award in both 2018 and 2019. She was also named one of Food & Wine magazine's Best New Chefs of 2015 and Curate was most recently recognized as one of Esquire's 40 Most Important Restaurants of the Decade.Image courtesy of Curate/Katie Button.The Line is powered by Simplecast.  

Katie Button is at the helm of two restaurants in Asheville, North Carolina - the lively and authentic Spanish experience at Cúrate, the nationally-acclaimed tapas restaurant, and Button & Co. Bagels, influenced by Katie's upbringing in New Jersey. Chef Katie took a winding road to open her restaurants in Asheville, first pursuing science degrees at Cornell and earning her master's degree in biomedical engineering in Paris. Realizing that a life in Science wasn't for her, she changed course to the culinary field, starting as a server at one of Jose Andres' restaurants in Washington DC, volunteering on her days off to work at his avante garde restautant minibar to help prep in their kitchen, since she didn't have any professional cooking experience. Being in the kitchen made her realize that it was the place she wanted to be most, so from there, she got a position in the kitchen at New York's Jean-Georges in their pastry kitchen as an intern. From there, she moved out LA to work at The Bazaar by José Andrés, and that following Summer, she landed a postion in the pastry kitchen at elBulli, Chef Ferran and Albert Adria's legendary 3 michelin star restaurant in Spain. It was there that she met her husband Felix, and together they moved to Asheville to open a restaurant with her parents, where they eventually opened Cúrate in 2011. The classic Spanish tapas restaurant received instant attention and accolades, from mentions in The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, and earning status as a nominee for the James Beard Foundation's Rising Star Chef award in 2014, semi-finalist for Best Chefs in America in 2015 and a nominee for Best Chef Southeast 2018 and 2019.

Jon and Catherine visit Chow Chow, a new food festival in Asheville with insight from chef Katie Button and author Ronni Lundy, and, much to Jon's surprise (he kind of hates food festivals, if you remember), he's pretty much on board.

Chow Chow is a multi-day immersive experience held in Asheville, NC, from September 13-15, 2019, to celebrate the region’s vibrant culinary scene from farmers to brewers, chefs, crafts people and artists. Featuring nationally recognized chefs to multi-generational farmers to millers, bakers, potters, weavers, and brewers, Chow Chow is shining a light on the spirit of this region. Join guests Kevin Barnes, founder of Ultimate Ice Cream, Connie Matisse, co-founder of East Fork, Jael Rattigan, co-founder of French Broad Chocolate and Chef Katie Button of Katie Button Restaurants, and discover what makes this event different, including highlights of key events, Chow Chow's charity focus and the awesome activities guests and local makers will be doing over the weekend. Come celebrate with Chow Chow!

"One of the great fallacies of working and life I find is this work-life balance because there is no such thing as work-life balance because my work is life and life is my work." - Phoebe Esmon We met Phoebe at a bar. After all, isn't that where some of the best friendships start? She was bartending at Gan Shan Station when Tony walked in and asked about the vermouth selection — using a little trick he learned from a friend when deciding whether or not you should order a Negroni. Phoebe's response was simply “I'll make you a great Negroni.” And that she did. It becomes immediately clear that Phoebe Esmon and her partner, Christian Gaal, know their spirits. While they define themselves as “cocktail bartenders,” we see them as much more than that: they are artists, historians, and teachers. They are two fountains of knowledge overflowing with fun factoids like when dry vermouth was born and why the VSOP label on Cognac isn't actually French. Though their business, Spirit Animal Bev, Phoebe and Christian work with local businesses to help them craft beverage menus and recipes to fit their brand or event — much like you'd hire a chef to oversee the menu development for a restaurant. They have worked with many local Asheville businesses around town including Katie Button's Nightbell (now closed) and Cúrate; Gan Shan Station; and Eda Rhyne. They have taught classes on amari, trained numerous bartenders and restaurant staff, and worked closely with distilleries in developing new recipes. They'll even bartend your wedding via their event business, called Party Animal. Phoebe is also the Co-Dean of Bartending and Hospitality for Portland Cocktail Week, where she is developing a bartending curriculum with Sother Teague (Teague is the beverage director of Amor y Amargo, a famous bitter bar in NYC, author of I'm Just Here for the Drinks, and host of The Speakeasy podcast). Their latest projects include a running a soon-to-open natural wine speakeasy called Pink Moon that will open up behind The Double Crown later on this year. Phoebe will also be helping Melissa Gray develop cocktails for her new cake and cocktail bar, RosaBees, which we talked about in Episode 11 during our interview with Melissa. Here's what you'll learn: - Why Phoebe and Christian decided to move to Asheville - What special projects they're working on now (spoiler: we told you a little about the speakeasy but that's not all) - Christian's advice for what to do when you see a black bear - Weird liquor laws in North Carolina - The two main types of ratios in cocktails - Why ice is so important when making cocktails and the three steps to making better ice at home - What you need to stock your own cocktail bar at home - How to buy better tasting, purer, and more sustainable tequila We hope you enjoy this episode! Curious to learn more about what we do? Making It Creative is a boutique marketing agency in Asheville. We are dedicated to working with small business owners that are deeply passionate about what they do by helping them build and improve their sales and communication strategies. Learn more here. For show notes, including some supplementary information from this episode visit: MakingItInAsheville.com/013 To recommend an interviewee, visit: MakingItInAsheville.com/podcast Music by Commonwealth Choir If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, like, review, and/or share! It helps to spread the word and get more eyes on Asheville's makers. Check out Making It in Asheville on other platforms! https://www.instagram.com/makingitinasheville/ https://www.makingitinasheville.com/youtube/ https://makingitinasheville.com/subscribe/

"One of the great fallacies of working and life I find is this work-life balance because there is no such thing as work-life balance because my work is life and life is my work." - Phoebe EsmonWe met Phoebe at a bar. After all, isn’t that where some of the best friendships start? She was bartending at Gan Shan Station when Tony walked in and asked about the vermouth selection — using a little trick he learned from a friend when deciding whether or not you should order a Negroni. Phoebe’s response was simply “I’ll make you a great Negroni.” And that she did.It becomes immediately clear that Phoebe Esmon and her partner, Christian Gaal, know their spirits. While they define themselves as “cocktail bartenders,” we see them as much more than that: they are artists, historians, and teachers. They are two fountains of knowledge overflowing with fun factoids like when dry vermouth was born and why the VSOP label on Cognac isn’t actually French. Though their business, Spirit Animal Bev, Phoebe and Christian work with local businesses to help them craft beverage menus and recipes to fit their brand or event — much like you’d hire a chef to oversee the menu development for a restaurant. They have worked with many local Asheville businesses around town including Katie Button’s Nightbell (now closed) and Cúrate; Gan Shan Station; and Eda Rhyne. They have taught classes on amari, trained numerous bartenders and restaurant staff, and worked closely with distilleries in developing new recipes. They'll even bartend your wedding via their event business, called Party Animal.Phoebe is also the Co-Dean of Bartending and Hospitality for Portland Cocktail Week, where she is developing a bartending curriculum with Sother Teague (Teague is the beverage director of Amor y Amargo, a famous bitter bar in NYC, author of I’m Just Here for the Drinks, and host of The Speakeasy podcast).Their latest projects include a running a soon-to-open natural wine speakeasy called Pink Moon that will open up behind The Double Crown later on this year.Phoebe will also be helping Melissa Gray develop cocktails for her new cake and cocktail bar, RosaBees, which we talked about in Episode 11 during our interview with Melissa.Here’s what you’ll learn: - Why Phoebe and Christian decided to move to Asheville - What special projects they’re working on now (spoiler: we told you a little about the speakeasy but that's not all) - Christian’s advice for what to do when you see a black bear - Weird liquor laws in North Carolina - The two main types of ratios in cocktails - Why ice is so important when making cocktails and the three steps to making better ice at home - What you need to stock your own cocktail bar at home - How to buy better tasting, purer, and more sustainable tequilaWe hope you enjoy this episode!Curious to learn more about what we do? Making It Creative is a boutique marketing agency in Asheville. We are dedicated to working with small business owners that are deeply passionate about what they do by helping them build and improve their sales and communication strategies. Learn more here.For show notes, including some supplementary information from this episode visit: MakingItInAsheville.com/013To recommend an interviewee, visit: MakingItInAsheville.com/podcastMusic by Commonwealth ChoirIf you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, like, review, and/or share! It helps to spread the word and get more eyes on Asheville's makers. Check out Making It in Asheville on other platforms! https://www.instagram.com/makingitinasheville/ https://www.makingitinasheville.com/youtube/ https://makingitinasheville.com/subscribe/

"One of the great fallacies of working and life I find is this work-life balance because there is no such thing as work-life balance because my work is life and life is my work." - Phoebe EsmonWe met Phoebe at a bar. After all, isn’t that where some of the best friendships start? She was bartending at Gan Shan Station when Tony walked in and asked about the vermouth selection — using a little trick he learned from a friend when deciding whether or not you should order a Negroni. Phoebe’s response was simply “I’ll make you a great Negroni.” And that she did.It becomes immediately clear that Phoebe Esmon and her partner, Christian Gaal, know their spirits. While they define themselves as “cocktail bartenders,” we see them as much more than that: they are artists, historians, and teachers. They are two fountains of knowledge overflowing with fun factoids like when dry vermouth was born and why the VSOP label on Cognac isn’t actually French. Though their business, Spirit Animal Bev, Phoebe and Christian work with local businesses to help them craft beverage menus and recipes to fit their brand or event — much like you’d hire a chef to oversee the menu development for a restaurant. They have worked with many local Asheville businesses around town including Katie Button’s Nightbell (now closed) and Cúrate; Gan Shan Station; and Eda Rhyne. They have taught classes on amari, trained numerous bartenders and restaurant staff, and worked closely with distilleries in developing new recipes. They'll even bartend your wedding via their event business, called Party Animal.Phoebe is also the Co-Dean of Bartending and Hospitality for Portland Cocktail Week, where she is developing a bartending curriculum with Sother Teague (Teague is the beverage director of Amor y Amargo, a famous bitter bar in NYC, author of I’m Just Here for the Drinks, and host of The Speakeasy podcast).Their latest projects include a running a soon-to-open natural wine speakeasy called Pink Moon that will open up behind The Double Crown later on this year.Phoebe will also be helping Melissa Gray develop cocktails for her new cake and cocktail bar, RosaBees, which we talked about in Episode 11 during our interview with Melissa.Here’s what you’ll learn: - Why Phoebe and Christian decided to move to Asheville - What special projects they’re working on now (spoiler: we told you a little about the speakeasy but that's not all) - Christian’s advice for what to do when you see a black bear - Weird liquor laws in North Carolina - The two main types of ratios in cocktails - Why ice is so important when making cocktails and the three steps to making better ice at home - What you need to stock your own cocktail bar at home - How to buy better tasting, purer, and more sustainable tequilaWe hope you enjoy this episode!Curious to learn more about what we do? Making It Creative is a boutique marketing agency in Asheville. We are dedicated to working with small business owners that are deeply passionate about what they do by helping them build and improve their sales and communication strategies. Learn more here.For show notes, including some supplementary information from this episode visit: MakingItInAsheville.com/013To recommend an interviewee, visit: MakingItInAsheville.com/podcastMusic by Commonwealth ChoirIf you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, like, review, and/or share! It helps to spread the word and get more eyes on Asheville's makers. Check out Making It in Asheville on other platforms! https://www.instagram.com/makingitinasheville/ https://www.makingitinasheville.com/youtube/ https://makingitinasheville.com/subscribe/

Last weekend, an international who's who of chefs gathered in the City of Brotherly Love for the 6th Annual Philly Chef Conference. In between speaking gigs, Andrew was fortunate to sit down with some of the chefs who are making huge dents in the culinary universe right now. They are (in alphabetical order): Mashama Bailey of the Grey in Savannah, GA (recently the subject of a Chef's Table profile); Katie Button of Cúrate and Button & Co in Asheville, NC; Genevieve Gergis, co-owner & pastry chef of Bestia and Bavel in Los Angeles, CA; Christina Nguyen co-owner and chef of Hai Hai and Hola Arepa in Minneapolis, MN; and Matt Orlando of Amass in Copenhagen. Each of these roughly 30-minute conversations gives a glimpse into what makes each of these chefs tick, and what makes their restaurants so singularly important. And we have a Pennsylvania bonus: John & Sukey Jamison of the legendary Jamison Farm in Latrobe, PA, drove down to visit with Andrew and discuss their recently published memoir Coyotes in the Pasture and Wolves at the Door. We suggest you treat this episode as the anthology that it is and listen to individual interviews at your leisure, or spend an afternoon taking them all in together. Andrew Talks To Chefs is powered by Simplecast.

Chef and food writer James Beard said: “Food is our common ground, a universal experience.” Taking those words to heart, Katie Button and Felix Meana create food experiences to unite people. Katie & Felix are the husband and wife partners behind Katie Button Restaurants in Asheville and Cúrate Trips, the culinary travel expeditions to Spain and Portugal. An intimate conversation around the table about community, food, travel, sustainability, preservation and collaboration. Yummy!

Chef Katie Button and I spoke a few months ago at the FAB Conference in Charleston, but I’ve held onto this interview a bit because only a couple weeks after it, Katie gave birth 5 weeks early to a little boy. Mom, son, and the whole family are doing splendidly, and life is returning to normal for them, which means her husband and business partner Felix is in Spain right now with Curate Trips (check it out, you’re going to want to go), Katie is supervising the final stages of a new restaurant, and Asheville is ramping up for leaf looker season. But Katie likes to live her life with purpose and her drive to excel is strong and shows up in consistently excellent food. She was nominated by the James Beard Foundation for Rising Star Chef of the Year 2012, 2013, 2014, (and twice a semifinalist during those years), Best Chef: Southeast semifinalist in 2015 and nominee in 2018. But she’s also committed to being a responsible business owner. Cúrate and Nightbell are living wage certified and work with local companies and organizations to recycle, compost, and reduce food waste and environmental impact. And she’s working to focus more on her leadership skills, as you’ll hear in this interview. You’ll also hear someone trying to come into the room where we’re interviewing. I locked the door but forgot to put up a sign, so they’re insistent. Ha. Welcome to podcasting on location.

Breakfast: THE MOST IMPORTANT BOOK ABOUT THE BEST MEAL OF THE DAYBy The Editors of Extra Crispy Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cookery by the Book podcast with Suzy Chase. She's just a home cook in New York City sitting at her dining room table talking to cookbook authors. Kat Kinsman: Hi. I'm Kat Kinsman. I'm the Senior Food and Drinks Editor at Extra Crispy, and we've got a new book, Breakfast: The Most Important Book About the Best Meal of the Day.Suzy Chase: This book was written by you and the other editors of Extra Crispy. Tell us about Extra Crispy.Kat Kinsman: Oh, wow. It's such an exciting ... This book, I'm so excited about it. It's actually a collection of material that we've run on Extra Crispy and some new things that we've written. Extra Crispy is your one-stop shopping for everything about breakfast: culture, news, essays, recipes. If it's breakfast, we're going to cover it. I know it sounds silly, so you have a site that's just about breakfast, but since we launched in June of 2016, we realized that, when you go narrow, you can go really, really deep, so we use breakfast as a Trojan horse to talk about a million different things.Suzy Chase: In 1875, speaking of deep, cookbook author Marion Harland praises eggs as elegant and frugal, so here's the age-old question: Why do we eat eggs for breakfast? I've never understood that.Kat Kinsman: Oh, my goodness. We actually have an essay. I don't know if it's in the book, but we have run an essay, I believe recently, about why that is. I mean think about it. They're so incredibly adaptable. They can store for a fairly long time. They are a fantastic and inexpensive source of nutrition, of protein. They keep you going for a while. Again, I think it got back to the adaptability of it, that there's so many different ways that you can eat them. They're really personal is what I've realized. It's something that, without a whole lot of effort, you can make for yourself in the morning, and you can make it exactly to your liking, or it's not too hard to guide somebody else to make them exactly the way you want them too. It's an easy way to give somebody pleasure, and sustenance, and a little bit of affirmation in the day, "I see you. I know how to make you happy. Here's eggs just the way you want them."Suzy Chase: I didn't know that, in the early 1900s, breakfast cereal was invented in response to indigestion blamed on meat and egg consumption. That sounds like B.S. to me, right? It sounds like a marketing thing.Kat Kinsman: Oh, absolutely was. The people at Battle Creek, the scientists there who came up with Raisin Bran, and flakes, and all that kind of stuff were doing it ... They were wellness freaks in a really early incarnation, and they were doing it to quash libido and-Suzy Chase: What? Really?Kat Kinsman: They were doing all sorts of ... Oh, it's just so nuts. It's in the early days of Kellogg's. They got some zealots in there to start to develop these foods that were supposed to be optimized for health but also sort of add moral fiber to your day. If you look at all the stuff that they were doing in Battle Creek and then at these sort of wellness resorts that they had, they were doing these things to control people's emotional impulses and set them on the path of the good and righteous. It was almost culty how all this stuff came about. I'm actually working on a piece right now about the moral intertwinings of the early days of flake cereal. It's really astounding stuff if you dig back just a little bit over a century. Suzy Chase: I feel like fried eggs are a bit out of fashion at the moment, but I love a good fried egg, especially a diner fried egg. Talk about some ways to upgrade the good old fried egg. Kat Kinsman: Oh, one very, very easy thing to do is use a ton of olive oil, get it just ripping hot, put the egg in there, and spoon the olive oil a little bit over the edges until they get good and lacy. It's a very ... Oh, I wish I could say the term. It's a Spanish term. Chef Katie Button really drove this home to me, and it's her favorite was to do it, but the way it translates is like lacy eggs. The center of it remains good and runny and beautiful, but if you can get the pan to the right temperature and use olive oil instead of butter, because butter can burn and it gets that sort of acrid taste to it, but olive oil can take a little bit more heat, and you get those brown, crispy, lacy edges and still have that runny yolk, and it's the simplest thing in the world to do. Another really, really easy thing to do is just put a little bit of Aleppo pepper over top of it, just a little bit, and have that olive oil with it, and that is a little bit of heat, a little pop of ... just a little pop of joy and sensory pleasure to start the day with. The texture of the lacy edges of the egg with a little bit of crunch of good salt, the Aleppo pepper, if you have that with some bread, that just hits every single sensory button, and it's a great way to start the day.Suzy Chase: There's an infamous op-ed in The New York Times that says, and I will quote, "Brunch is for jerks." What are your thoughts on brunch, especially brunch in New York City? Kat Kinsman: Here is my thing. I've always ascribed to the notion that, if it tastes good, it is good. I'm laissez-faire about these sorts of things. I realize the older I get the less prescriptive I am about things that bring people pleasure. I mean we are living in times of turmoil right now where I really believe, if you can bring any sort of simple pleasure into your life and it's not harmful to anyone else, why not? The great thing about brunch is the community aspect of it. I mean sure, you can go have brunch by yourself. That's absolutely fine. You can have it with one other person but, ideally, it's a vehicle for community. We ran this piece a few months ago by Nik Sharma who ... Oh, my gosh. I love this man. He has a book coming out. It's seriously one of the loveliest cookbooks I have ever seem. Everybody needs to buy Nik Sharma's book. He wrote a piece about why gay brunch is so important and especially in his early days ... so after coming out, and moving, and coming together in this safe space with friends where they could go through what happened that week and talk through their loves, and their heartbreaks, and everything in a safe, communal space before marriage was legalized. It was such a powerful, beautiful space. You talk now about the transition of now that marriage is legal and people are able to host brunch at home with their spouses and invite people over to their houses, but talking about the early importance of these sort of queer spaces to get together over brunch. I mean if mimosas and sort of crappy Eggs Benedict can be a vehicle for that sort of thing, I am all for it.Suzy Chase: There's a whole section devoted to the Dutch Baby. What is that?Kat Kinsman: Well, because it makes you look like a freaking genius. I hadn't really made them, and Dawn Perry, who has a few ... She's a goddess on Earth, and she's at Real Simple. Before she had really started up in this position at Real Simple, she was writing a bunch for us, and she ... I trust everything this woman does. Everyone needs to watch her show. She really drove home the fact that they're incredibly versatile. I think this thing was called A Dutch baby is the Little Black Dress at Your Party or something like that but, really, it's this thing where you just bring together a few ingredients. You put them in a cast iron pan. It puffs up. It's such an ooh-la-la kind of moment. You can make it sweet. You can make it savory. You can adapt it to whatever your particular taste is. You can make them all a la minute at a party and have that great razzle-dazzle moment where it's brunch and, "Oh, no big deal. I just made this great big, explosive popover thing," and everyone you brought there sees your moment of ooh and ah and gets to watch it move and deflate, and it can be dressed however you want. It's a glorious bit of theater that is really easy to pull off.Suzy Chase: I went down the rabbit hole researching this recipe and, in 1966, Craig Claiborne was at Dave Eyre's home in Hawaii. Eyres was the editor of Honolulu Magazine at the time. David made a Dutch baby for Craig, and Claiborne came back, wrote about it in The New York Times, and it's such a beautiful thing. I know for a fact that Martha Stewart loves the lemon butter Dutch baby recipe that you have on page 47.Kat Kinsman: Oh, my gosh, what a classic that is. Those particular flavors are ... they just work so beautifully, and it makes it feel like you're eating pie for breakfast, which I wholeheartedly endorse, by the way. Pie for breakfast is a beautiful, beautiful thing. Dutch babies, I feel like they're ... they have such a funny history. There is a town I'm totally blanking on on the West Coast, I feel like it's in California. It was like a Gold Rush thing. I should know about this because I wrote about it for the site recently, but can we talk for a second about Craig Claiborne and what an amazing taste maker he was?Suzy Chase: Yes.Kat Kinsman: Oh, my gosh. I think I'm probably one of the few sort of people who, right now, have read the memoir, the warts and all, of his memoir. People have forgotten about Craig, and it breaks my heart. He was such as taste maker. I remember him ... I don't remember when he did it, but the importance of him writing about the shrimp and grits at Crook's Corner with Bill Neal, this dish that ... it has some sort of murky origins and stuff, but he saw the beauty in this, wrote about it in the Times and, all of a sudden, people started really paying attention to this corner of North Carolina. I've made his mother's spaghetti dish on more than one occasion. I've made his shrimp and grits. What a legacy. He really did the legwork to go around the country, see the things that people were doing regionally, and then ... Nobody should need justification or the imprimatur of a giant publication but, at the time, he used it as such an incredible platform to really sing the praises of these regional dishes and make them national favorites. Sorry, I love Craig Claiborne.Suzy Chase: Well, he's one of those guys people say, "If you could have a dinner party and invite anyone living or dead, who would you invite?" He's one of those guys you want at your dinner table.Kat Kinsman: Oh, my God, him and Clementine Paddleford. There would be no doubt that you-Suzy Chase: Who's that?Kat Kinsman: Oh, God, she was spectacular. Suzy Chase: That's a great name.Kat Kinsman: Isn't it? She was incredible. There was a bio of her that came out a few years back, and she was an incredible woman who ... She was at one of the rival papers in New York. She flew her own plane, so she was a pilot and would fly her little plane around the country to sort of go in and see how people really were cooking in all of these regions like, really, the kind of cooking that would be in church cookbooks that was not highfalutin restaurant food because there really wasn't a whole lot of highfalutin restaurant food, but really talking about home cooking in regions all over the country. She would get in her little plane and fly there and come back and write in her paper. She was an established newspaper editor, and then Craig Claiborne came in, few years younger than her, and he was young, he was cute, and he sort of ate her lunch, so people really don't know as much about her legacy, but oh, gosh, I wish I could remember the name. I'm so blanking this morning on the names of all the books, but look up the book about her. It's really, really just a fantastic thing.Suzy Chase: Food that's weird to people you've never heard of isn't weird to those who grow up eating it, so I guess Livermush would fall into that category. I didn't grow up eating it.Kat Kinsman: Oh, my God.Suzy Chase: I have no idea what it is. Kat Kinsman: I think it could use some rebranding just from the name because, if people actually had it, it would ... oh, it would blow their minds. That piece by Sheri Castle that is in the book ... First of all, Sheri is a tremendous advocate for North Carolina food. She's an extraordinary writer, and she really sings the praises of mountain food and North Carolina food and really sings to the dignity of these foods that ... A lot of these foods come from deprivation, so Livermush is liver and mixed in with grains, and it's essentially made into a loaf and fried, and you slice it, and it gets golden brown on the outside. It's a little bit sort of mushy, spongy on the inside. It's basically like a meatloaf, and it is the most glorious thing. There are a few towns throughout North Carolina that throw festivals in honor of it. There's brand called Neese's that is one of the premier brands of it, and they have Livermush. They also have liver pudding, which is very like it with a slightly different spice blend to it, and they're just really preserving this heritage. There are a few different brands that make it. My husband's from North Carolina, so every time I go down there I try to seek out all the different regional brands and variations of it. Like what you said, the food that people didn't grow up eating might seem weird to them, but that's part of our core mission at Extra Crispy, is to really give the dignity to these foods that they deserve, because it really bothers me when people yuck other people's yum, just because they're unfamiliar with it. Food is so inextricably tied to identity, that to slam somebody else's food just because it seems weird or unfamiliar is unfortunately, since time immemorial, been a way to other people. It's done to first generation or immigrant kids, who bring their lunch to school and it smells different than what the other kids are eating. It's something that is often used as a tool to alienate people who might not be from the dominant culture, when in fact it should be a tool to bring people together. Here is this little part of my culture, my heritage. Here's a way to understand a little bit more about me. It's an act of generosity to share your food and it's something that we really, really try to emphasize on Extra Crispy, that we approach all foods with an open mind and an open heart. And ideally let somebody from that culture tell the story of it and why it's so important, and hopefully open up some new doors to it.Suzy Chase: Eleven fancy butters were sourced, to find the best one which is Bordier. Is it Bordi-a or bordi-er?Kat Kinsman: That is a really good question. Suzy Chase: Let's just go with Bordi-a. Kat Kinsman: Yes. I believe that is how someone who actually knew how to pronounce it -Suzy Chase: Yes. (laughs)Kat Kinsman: ... did pronounce it, but we've been all over the place on that. I got to take part in this tasting. Suzy Chase: I saw on a Mind of a Chef episode, where Chef Ludo goes to the factory. Have you seen that? Where they slap the butter with the paddles and they stamp it, and they put salt on it. Kat Kinsman: I've seen it. Suzy Chase: It's glorious. Kat Kinsman: We brought in my friend John Winterman who is the managing partner at Batard, but he is also a butter freak. I believe we gave him the name Maitre D'Beurre to guide us through this. The whole Extra Crispy team, we are butter aficionados, freaks, obsessives, whatever you want to call it. We sourced all these butters. It was mostly my fantastic colleagues, Margaret Eby and Rebecca Firkser. I think at some point, Margaret is just going to go off on a butter sabbatical. This is her dream to go somewhere and really learn how to make butter. She and Rebecca went out and sourced all of these different high-end butters. They had already done this with grocery store butters. And in that one, Kerrygold came out top as it should. It's a fantastic butter. But I think we grabbed the corporate card to expense butter. They tried it on bread. I have a gut condition and I can't really eat bread. I'm trying to remember what I had it on. It was radishes. I had mine on radish slices. Suzy Chase: Oh, that's so smart. Kat Kinsman: Yeah, it was a really great way to get to do it. Also I didn't fill up on bread. I was mad not be able to have it with the bread, but we work with what we are given. We just tasted them through. Came up with the top few and then put them all head to head. The Bordier was incredible. I have to say, there was a slight followup later because Bordier does variations. With those, we were just doing salted butters, I believe. Otherwise, you can really extra fall down the rabbit hole. Bordier does one with this flint pepper in it. They do a few different variations -Suzy Chase: Oh, no. Kat Kinsman: Well Margaret found the raspberry one -Suzy Chase: No.Kat Kinsman: They only make a little bit. It is one of the best things I've ever had in my life. So it is butter. It is raspberries. It's raspberry juice. We all tried it and we all just stared at each other. Suzy Chase: (laughs)Kat Kinsman: We could not speak. So Ryan Grim who is the editor of the site who is just a delightful human being. If you've ever seen the Instant Pot videos that I do, he is Mr. Grim -Suzy Chase: Yes. Kat Kinsman: -- in the videos. He's our boss. But he was just, you know, the 1,000 yard stare, like just eating this. It was the purest raspberries, the most beautiful butter. If you buy it where we bought it, we bought a quarter pound of it, it would be $72 a pound. But we sort of rationalized this because we got a quarter pound and said if you go into a party, you could bring a bottle of wine. That's great. It gets push on the shelf with the other wines. If you roll in with this butter and a baguette, you are the star of the party.Suzy Chase: Oh, my gosh. Where do you get this butter, do you know? Can you get it in New York City? Kat Kinsman: We got it ... Yes, you can. We got it at Le District, which conveniently is right below our office in Brookfield Place.Suzy Chase: Look at that! (laughs) Okay, I'm going down there today. Kat Kinsman: Yes. Actually if you want me to do it when I get into the office, I will look and see if they have it so you don't waste a trip. Suzy Chase: Okay. (laughs) Thank you. How did you get the inspiration to turn a king cake into french toast? Kat Kinsman: So Margaret Eby, who is our senior culture editor. She and I both are New Orleans obsessives. So she grew up in Mississippi and would go to New Orleans all the time. I've been going since ... Oh golly. So I used to work for CNN and I had the pleasure of my intro into New Orleans was we would have these secret suppers. I got to throw one at James Carville and Mary Matalin's house. They are such tremendous ambassadors for the city. They are food obsessives and they let us throw this party at our house. Sorry, at their house. I wish it was my house. So I had sort of a crash course in getting to go to New Orleans. My husband was supposed to meet me and our dog got sick and he couldn't come. So I was okay, well that means we'll have to go back and you'll have to come with me. He fell in love with it too, so we go three, four times a year because we love it so much. Margaret goes as often as she can. She actually rides in a Mardi Gras crew. So a great act of love from both of us is to bring back king cake when we go. We were just thinking king cake is ... There's a lot of really bad king cake out there. The intention is great, but if we're being honest, a lot of it kind of sucks and it gets stale really, really quickly. So we were thinking, it would also feel like a sin to throw away king cake. So we decided to do it two different ways. We made french toast out of king cake. Then king cake out of french toast. To me, it's exemplified what we do at Extra Crispy where we really do try to tell stories about particular tradition and cultures. Also we have a chance to get really weird. We sort of joke, the extra in Extra Crispy is that we have permission to take things to strange degrees and just have a whole lot of fun and find joy in this. I mean breakfast is a meal that it can be formal. It can just be for sustenance, but think about those weekend breakfasts when you just get to play and goof and eventually feed people. It's a really, really fun thing. We take people seriously and we take people's culture seriously and their identities and stuff. We don't always necessarily take ourselves too seriously.Suzy Chase: Speaking of extra, Chapter 6 Franken-foods and mashups. Kat Kinsman: (laughs)Suzy Chase: Velveeta chex mix nacho dirt bag casserole. Say that fast five times. That's hard to say. Kat Kinsman: (laughs) Suzy Chase: Is always a good thing, right? Kat Kinsman: So Margaret and I ... I want to explain dirt bag a little bit if that's okay. (laughs)Suzy Chase: Sure. Kat Kinsman: So this all came about because I had never ... I had my notion of sort of the term dirt bag. Margaret and I were texting while she was at a lake house with a bunch of her friends. She was leading what she called her best dirt bag life. I was like unpack that for please. She said, you know, it is the self when you are around people who you deeply trust and love that you don't have to put in any sort of guard or errs. You can be wearing whatever you want. You're comfortable. Ideally you're in a lake house or just somewhere where nobody's faultin. Everybody is just their most chill out, lazy, maybe a teeny bit tipsy, kind of self. And you're really happy and free. She texted me saying here's what we have in the house. We have oh golly, like some leftover bottoms of the bags of various chips. We have some eggs. We have some beer. We have some bread. She asked me okay, what can I make from this? I was like girl, you've got a casserole there. You have everything you need to make ... I am a big fan of a casserole. You can put absolutely anything together so long as you have some sort of bread-like substance, a liquid, ideally an egg, though you don't necessarily have to have an egg to bind it. You put it in a dish. You stick it in the oven, then put it under the broiler to get the top crunchy. Out of this came ... And I was like especially if you can pour beer into there as the liquid, you win. And Velveeta is its own magical substance. If you don't try to think of it as cheese, you're better off. You can use real cheese if you want to, but Velveeta, I think really gets the zeitgeist there. You can make it with absolutely anything so long as you follow the formula. It's cheesy and delicious and it's even better the next day. Suzy Chase: In addition to being the senior food and drinks editor at Extra Crispy, you also write and talk about tough, real life stuff; anxiety and depression. You wrote a book called, "Hi Anxiety, Life with a Bad Case of Nerves." You started the conversation in the restaurant community about depression, anxiety addiction and eating disorders on chefs with issues. Talk a little bit about that. Kat Kinsman: Yes, so I have been pretty open for a long time about my own struggles with anxiety and depression. Then recently a diagnosis of ADHD, which was contributing to the anxiety as I found out. It's something that I have dealt with as long as I can remember. My friends knew about a certain amount of it and definitely my family did. I've never been ashamed about talking about it, but it wasn't necessarily something I led with. When I was at CNN, I was the food editor there and I also wrote for CNN Living. And I wrote an essay about my experience with depression throughout my life and then later I wrote about anxiety. It opened up a conversation there at work and then we were able to ... Both of them went viral and they were really kind and generous and thoughtful enough to let me really explore that further there with some conversations and community stuff that we did. What happened was that I also was the food editor, so I would be interviewing a chef there or at my next job when we would be doing some video or whatever it happened to be and I'd be recording it. There would be a moment where we would stop and turn off the recorder to change batteries or change tapes. A couple of times it happened that the chef would be like hey, actually can I talk to you about something? Then they would tell me about their own particular struggles with depression or anxiety or addiction or whatever it happened to be. Or someone who they worked with in their kitchen. That happened once and I felt like okay, this is somebody who just needed to get it off their chest. I'm so grateful that they were willing to trust me with it. Then it happened again. Then it started to happen more than half the time. I started to think there's really something going on here. So after a few months of this, I threw up a website on January 1st, 2016 and I put up a poll asking people are you dealing with any of these issues? If so, do you feel open talking about it? Do you get treatment? All this stuff. I figured I'd maybe get a few dozen responses. I've gotten well over 2,000 responses at this point. I started getting letters and calls, emails, Facebook messages, Twitter messages from people saying, "Oh, my god. I thought I was the only one." I realized it was really a huge crisis. The month after I started this site, three different chef owners took their own lives that I knew about. It's constant. I cannot stress this enough. Chefs and hospitality workers and bartenders die all the time and people don't talk about it. Whether it is by suicide or whether it is by as they call it, "slow suicide" of rough choices or addiction or whatever it happens to be. That was three in one month. One that was very, very high profile and two that were less so, but people happened to tell me. I did the math on this and realized just the toll this takes on the industry. So I started this website. I got the opportunity to speak about it at a few conferences. I realized this was way, way, way bigger than me. I couldn't field all of this stuff by myself. It takes a toll. I'm happy to do it and it adds so much to me, but it's a lot. So I started a Facebook group last summer while I was recovering from surgery where people could just come any hour of the day or night, and have open conversations about what they were dealing with. And three months ago, there were 828 people in it. Now, as of last night, there were 2300 people in it-Suzy Chase: Oh my God.Kat Kinsman: The thing that happened was Anthony Bourdain killed himself, and yeah, which so many people are still reeling from ... The thing that's been going on also over the course of this last year, two and a half years that I've been doing this is, I've gotten a community of people who are starting this conversation in their own community. There are groups all over the country operating independently where they're gathering together people in the industry in their particular towns to talk about it, to offer the solidarity. Denver is incredible for that. There was a thing...Recently changed the name from Mile-High Hospitality Hazards...Not sure what the new name of it is, but they're doing great work to get people together. There's Ben's Friends throughout the south. That is specifically for people in recovery in the hospitality industry, and people are really getting together and taking care of one another in a way that they haven't before. And for the first time in awhile, I have hope that people don't feel like they're alone, they don't feel like it's taboo, they don't feel like they are weak for dealing with these things. I'm gutted, still, as so many of us are by the loss of Tony and if there's anything halfway okay that came out of this, it is that people are talking and hopefully more lives aren't going to be lost, even though I know that they have been since him. But hopefully the trend will change.Suzy Chase: I just got back from our beach house. All I brought were Anthony Bourdain books-Kat Kinsman: Yes.Suzy Chase: And I was just trying to find an answer. Is there an answer in this sentence? What happened? Because everything he ever said was, "That was my old life." He got beyond it and had a child and lived for her, it seemed like. And it's just like, "Wow." If he can fall to pieces, we all can.Kat Kinsman: Yeah. No one's immune to this. And this is why it's really important to me to never say "cure" about mental health issues. We'll never know exactly why, with him, and we have all wracked our brains and our hearts in thinking, "Is there something I could've said, done?" Any of these things that you didn't know, looking back at the last DM that he sent me, and is there something I should've said? But no, that's the thing, is like, it can come and get you at unsuspecting times. I don't say cure. I only ever say manage, and I'm pretty open about the fact that even for me, I've been dealing with this for a long time. I'm incredibly lucky. I am a straight, white, cisgendered married woman with health insurance and employment. I have every single advantage that a person could have, except for the only way there could be sort of more privilege present is if I were a man. Yeah, but that doesn't make me immune to this. It just means that I have more resources to deal with this. I have an incredibly supportive and fantastic spouse. I have friends and a community for whom I am so grateful. My Extra Crispy colleagues are so fundamental to my heart. It sounds maybe silly to some people to say this about a work situation, but it's so an emotionally great place to work, because we all have genuine affection and respect and care for one another. And I realize that is a tremendous thing, but at the same time, this summer, I had a very, very dark month where I went down...I have a panic disorder, as well, and I had...It was especially post-Tony. I ended up going around the country speaking with groups of chefs. I do a lot of closed-door meetings with chefs where I just get people together and talk about it, talk about what they're feeling about getting resources. The day it happened, we all found out about it the week before. I had been at the Atlanta Food and Wine Festival, where Kim Severson and I got people together and talked about things. I was talking in Charleston over the next couple of days. I was already scheduled for that. I went to the Aspen Food and Wine Festival the next weekend and talked to the other chefs there. I was on the road. I was ragged. I was revisiting my own trauma. I was sad about the loss of my friend and worried about other friends of his. And I was just in a susceptible place, and I got really, really dark. And I had a panic attack that lasted for an entire month. And I am someone who has all the therapy, has all of the resources, has all of this stuff, and it still happened, which is why you'll see me on Twitter having check-ins with people. It's incredibly important to check in on people who seem like they're doing okay, people who don't seem like they're doing okay, to ask you friends how they're doing and let them know it's okay if they don't say, like, "Oh, I'm fine." They can give you the real answer. I can't say this enough. It's so important to check in. I also-Suzy Chase: Especially in this age of social media, where everyone's Kim Kardashian. Everything's amazing. And it might not be.Kat Kinsman: Yeah. So I also got trained as a crisis counselor with Crisis Text Line, which everyone needs to have this number in their phone to share it with everybody. Text 741741 in the states. You can contact them by direct messenger on Facebook, and there is somebody there 24/7 to talk you, as they call it, from a hot moment to a cool call. And it's an incredible thing, so I trained as a counselor there, so I learned how to really deescalate situations. And a very important thing I learned there was the importance of asking people point-blank if they're thinking about killing themselves. And that is a harsh thing to have to say. I know people think that if you bring up suicide that it makes people more likely or puts the notion in their head. What they told us is that it's actually the opposite, because it bring it out into the open, it makes it not just this taboo thing. It actually shocks some people into reality, like, "Oh my God, yeah, actually now that you say the word"-Suzy Chase: And verbalizing it.Kat Kinsman: Yeah. And it's an awkward conversation to have, to ask somebody, but several times recently, I have asked friends that, and sometimes you get a very, very scary answer. But the thing I always say to chefs is yes, it's awkward if your line cook cries in front of you. That's a hell of a lot better than crying at their funeral. And I'm sorry to make it so stark, but those actually are the stakes of it, too. So during this really rotten time that I was having that was sort of spurred by being away from my support systems, being tired, revisiting trauma, a couple of stressful situations. My sleep was bad, my therapist was out of the country for three weeks and stuff. And I was lucky enough to have people around me who I could say, "I'm not okay" to, and I ended up, my therapist came back in town, I went and saw my physician who put me on an ADHD medication that, honestly, within 45 minutes, my brain felt calmer than it had in a month or longer, and it was an amazing thing. I was lucky to be able to ask for help and to have people around me saying like, "Hey, what are you doing for yourself?" But I'm somebody who talks about this pretty openly, and I think of myself as a solid, stable person who has...I've been lucky enough to have some incredible career opportunities, and it can still happen to me. So we really, really, really have to keep checking in on our people, no matter what beautiful things they're putting on Instagram-Suzy Chase: Yeah.Kat Kinsman: Whatever they're saying, look for the messages between the lines, or even just send them a text saying, "Just thinking about you." It really matters to do that.Suzy Chase: For season 4 of Cookery By the Book podcast, I am kicking off a new segment called The Last Meal. On a lighter note.Kat Kinsman: Yeah.Suzy Chase: If you had to place an order for your last meal on earth, what would it be?Kat Kinsman: I'd honestly be happy going out with an egg and cheese or a bacon, egg and cheese on a roll from a deli. Cup of coffee. Maybe a glass of champagne. I mean, that egg and cheese sandwich...which I can't eat because my gut thing, but if I knew it was my last meal, it really wouldn't matter. I love that perfect...As my friend Eric Diesel calls it, the deli egg bomb. It satisfies all my texture needs. It never fails to put a smile on my face, so I think it would have to be that.Suzy Chase: Where can we find you on the web and social media?Kat Kinsman: Ah. On the web, well, ExtraCrispy.com. That is home base. On Twitter, I am @KittenWithAWhip. On Instagram, I'm @katkinsman, and if you go to Tarts.org, which is the domain that I've had since 1997, I think you can also get there from katkinsman.com...That has all the links to all of the social...And it links to buy this fantastic Extra Crispy book by the editors of Extra Crispy. I just want to give a shoutout to Ryan Grimm, Margaret Eby, Rebecca Firkser, and then Kate Welsh, she recently moved on from the team to a fantastic opportunity, but they all put their heart and soul and everything into this book. Our former designer, Lauren Kolm, did some of the illustrations. The team in Birmingham shot the heck out of this. It's incredibly beautiful. Hugh Atchison wrote an incredible foreword, so we'd be remiss not to mention all those fantastic people.Suzy Chase: That's like an awards show. I'm playing you off with the music. Thank you for all of your great work that's changing lives. And thanks so much for coming on Cookery By the Book podcast. Kat Kinsman: Absolutely my pleasure. Thanks for having me. Suzy Chase: Subscribe in Apple Podcasts, and while you're there, please take a moment to rate and review Cookery By the Book. You can also follow me on Instagram @cookerybythebook. Twitter is @IAmSuzyChase. And download your kitchen mixtapes, music to cook by, on Spotify at Cookery By the Book. Thanks for listening.

Chef Katie Button studied to be an engineer but was drawn to food. After working with Chefs Ferran Adria and Jose Andres, Katie opened Cúrate Bar de Tapas and Nightbell in Asheville, NC. Cúrate was named one of Food & Wine Magazine's Top 40 Iconic Restaurants. A chemistry student who became the nation's 9th Master Sommelier, Larry Stone ran award-winning wine programs at Charlie Trotter's and Rubicon. He produces Burgundy-inspired wines at Lingua Franca Estate in Oregon's Eola-Amity Hills AVA.This show is broadcast live on Wednesday's at 2PM ET on W4CY Radio – (www.w4cy.com) part of Talk 4 Radio (http://www.talk4radio.com/) on the Talk 4 Media Network (http://www.talk4media.com/).

Success isn't a very good teacher. That's what chef Katie Button learned when she opened her second restaurant, Nightbell, in Asheville, North Carolina and it didn't take off right away. On this episode of Speaking Broadly, Button talks about being primed for success by working for the world renowned chefs Jose Andrés and Ferran Adria before opening her award-winning first restaurant, Cúrate, as well as the challenges of shaping a second, highly-anticipated project. Button also shares her best practices for a strong business, including how to deal with you partners when they're also your family. Speaking Broadly is powered by Simplecast.

Today's episode is a little different. I'm in Charleston, South Carolina at the Fab Conference which is all about women in hospitality. You'll hear two interviews: the first is with chef Asha Gomez of the Third Space in Atlanta and we talk about her restaurant, her cookbook “My Two Souths” and the similarities between southern Indian cooking and cooking in the American South. The second interview is with chef Katie Button of Heirloom Hospitality Group which runs Curate Tapas Bar and the Nightbell in Asheville, North Carolina. We talk about how she manages her teams and how she sets the example for everyone who works under her. A Hungry Society is powered by Simplecast

On the cusp of the with Katie Button went from being a PHD candidate in biomedical engineering to becoming a finalist for a James Beard Award as best Chef Southeast! In this episode we identify the “aha” moment when Katie decided it was time to enter the culinary world! We learn about what it’s like to work with , and work at the best restaurant in the world .  As if that wasn’t enough we get the skinny on the next project Chef Button is working on and what she will he cooking at the JBF awards this coming Monday! Oh and finally we reveal the gender of her soon-to-be arriving second child.  Wow, this episode has lots of info but, it’s just the beginning of our foray into the James Beard Awards extravaganza. Listen to this episode and follow along with us on all of our social media outlets in order to discover what its like to be a North Carolinian at the JBF awards! Friends & Sponsors:   and 
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Hey hey! First, the news: Grubhub & Door Dash updates (0:26), CA almond crops rebound (3:57), Frito-Lay shortage (5:51), & particles in plastic water bottles (8:01). Next, chats at Charleston W+F with Katie Button of Asheville's Curate/Nightbell (10:00), Linton Hopkins, Jen Yee, & Damon Wise of ATL's Resurgens Hospitality (21:07), Maheet Chauhan of Nashville's Chauhan Ales & Masala (32:07), & Mashama Bailey & Johno Morisano of Savannah's The Grey (42:13). To close, comedian Brian Park on silkworms (55:32).

For a special episode of The Grape Nation, Sam Benrubi welcomes Chef Katie Button of Curaté in Asheville, NC to talk about Spanish wines. Katie's husband Felix Meana oversees the restaurant's wine list, and the sole focus in on Spanish varietals. Katie shares some of her favorite regions and tells Sam about the Spanish excursions that she and Felix plan for Curaté guests. After the break, Sam shares with Kat Johnson his highlights of Charleston Wine + Food and impressions of the city's wine scene. Heritage Radio Network On Tour is powered by Simplecast.

Williams Sonoma Chefs’ Collective is a culinary advisory board launched in 2015 that features 14 chefs and bar experts each year. The advisors are selected for being innovators in their fields or redefining the culinary landscape. They come from the US and Canada, and participate in a series of events and media promotions. A few members of the collective (Gavin Kaysen, Katie Button, and Julia Momose) sit down with Eli Sussman for a special crossover episode of HRN On Tour and The Line. Heritage Radio Network On Tour is powered by Simplecast.

Chef Katie Button was born in the South, raised in the North, and educated in Europe. Now, she has returned to her roots as chef and owner of two unique restaurant concepts in Asheville, North Carolina: Cúrate Tapas Bar and Nightbell.Chef Button pursued science degrees in college and earned her master’s in biomedical engineering in Paris, France. She then changed course and devoted her pursuits to the culinary field, working for José Andrés at his restaurants in the United States and then for Ferran Adrià at the world-renowned elBulli in Spain.After meeting her husband Félix Meana, Chef Button moved to Asheville and created Heirloom Hospitality Group with Meana and her parents in 2011. Together, they opened Cúrate in 2011. The Spanish tapas restaurant received instant attention and accolades, from mentions in The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times to local awards and press.Nightbell, the second venue for Button and Heirloom Hospitality Group, opened in 2014. Nightbell is a contemporary American small plate restaurant with a craft cocktail bar and lounge. Button’s menu is a blend of comfort food and innovative twists on the classics, and her serious commitment to local farmers and sustainable products is evident.Chef Button was a semi-finalist for the James Beard Rising Star Chef award from 2012-2014 and was a finalist in 2014, and also received a nomination for Best Chef Southeast in 2015. Chef Button was one of Food & Wine magazine’s Best New Chefs of 2015 and hosted an international television series, The Best Chefs in the World. The young chef also won the Robb Report Culinary Master Competition over Eric Ripert, Masa Takayama, Charlie Palmer, and Michael Mina, and in January 2013 she earned a StarChefs.com Rising Stars Award and the Golden Whisk from Women Chefs and Restaurateurs. Button remains dedicated to causes beyond solely culinary pursuits. Her dedication to an eco-friendly approach to restaurant ownership was recently lauded by Grist.org, and both her restaurants, Cúrate and Nightbell, are living wage certified and work with local companies and organizations to recycle, compost, and reduce food waste and environmental impact. Chef Button cooked at this year’s Human Rights Campaign fundraiser in Washington, D.C., a Chef Action Network summit in Asheville, and works locally with Chefs at Welcome Table and Green Opportunities’ Kitchen Ready Program. She has also attended the James Beard Foundation Boot Camp for Policy and Change, an educational program with Chefs Action Network for select chefs from across the country.Chef Button published her first cookbook in October 2016. The book, Cúrate: Authentic Spanish Food from an American Kitchen, celebrates the broad appeal of Spanish cooking and shows readers how to recreate and adapt classic dishes in the home kitchen using seasonal local ingredients.Show notes at aoachef.comHELP US PROMOTE YOU LOCAL CHEF!!If you like the show please subscribe in iTunes and write us a review! This is how we can attract your favorite chef and introduce them to a new audience! Review the show in iTunes We rely on it!!Are you a chef or do you know a chef that would like to appear on the show? Drop me a line at aoachef@gmail.comHave you thanked a chef today? Click to view: show page on Awesound

Chef Katie Button was born in the South, raised in the North, and educated in Europe. Now, she has returned to her roots as chef and owner of two unique restaurant concepts in Asheville, North Carolina: Cúrate Tapas Bar and Nightbell.Chef Button pursued science degrees in college and earned her master’s in biomedical engineering in Paris, France. She then changed course and devoted her pursuits to the culinary field, working for José Andrés at his restaurants in the United States and then for Ferran Adrià at the world-renowned elBulli in Spain.After meeting her husband Félix Meana, Chef Button moved to Asheville and created Heirloom Hospitality Group with Meana and her parents in 2011. Together, they opened Cúrate in 2011. The Spanish tapas restaurant received instant attention and accolades, from mentions in The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times to local awards and press.Nightbell, the second venue for Button and Heirloom Hospitality Group, opened in 2014. Nightbell is a contemporary American small plate restaurant with a craft cocktail bar and lounge. Button’s menu is a blend of comfort food and innovative twists on the classics, and her serious commitment to local farmers and sustainable products is evident.Chef Button was a semi-finalist for the James Beard Rising Star Chef award from 2012-2014 and was a finalist in 2014, and also received a nomination for Best Chef Southeast in 2015. Chef Button was one of Food & Wine magazine’s Best New Chefs of 2015 and hosted an international television series, The Best Chefs in the World. The young chef also won the Robb Report Culinary Master Competition over Eric Ripert, Masa Takayama, Charlie Palmer, and Michael Mina, and in January 2013 she earned a StarChefs.com Rising Stars Award and the Golden Whisk from Women Chefs and Restaurateurs. Button remains dedicated to causes beyond solely culinary pursuits. Her dedication to an eco-friendly approach to restaurant ownership was recently lauded by Grist.org, and both her restaurants, Cúrate and Nightbell, are living wage certified and work with local companies and organizations to recycle, compost, and reduce food waste and environmental impact. Chef Button cooked at this year’s Human Rights Campaign fundraiser in Washington, D.C., a Chef Action Network summit in Asheville, and works locally with Chefs at Welcome Table and Green Opportunities’ Kitchen Ready Program. She has also attended the James Beard Foundation Boot Camp for Policy and Change, an educational program with Chefs Action Network for select chefs from across the country.Chef Button published her first cookbook in October 2016. The book, Cúrate: Authentic Spanish Food from an American Kitchen, celebrates the broad appeal of Spanish cooking and shows readers how to recreate and adapt classic dishes in the home kitchen using seasonal local ingredients.Show notes at aoachef.comHELP US PROMOTE YOU LOCAL CHEF!!If you like the show please subscribe in iTunes and write us a review! This is how we can attract your favorite chef and introduce them to a new audience! Review the show in iTunes We rely on it!!Are you a chef or do you know a chef that would like to appear on the show? Drop me a line at aoachef@gmail.comHave you thanked a chef today? Click to view: show page on Awesound

Kerry Diamond sits down with Katie Button, Vivian Howard and Amy Mills to chat about their new cookbooks, favorite food personalities and the joys of helping to revitalize small, Southern towns with their food.

A surprise guest for the end of day one, Katie Button of Cúrate and Nightbell in Asheville sits down with Kat Johnson to talk about her journey from biomedical engineering student to chef and owner of a Spanish tapas restaurant in western North Carolina’s Blue Ridge Mountains. Katie got her start in the kitchen at José Andrés's restaurants in the United States and then spent time working for Ferran Adrià at the world-renowned elBulli in Spain. After meeting her husband Félix Meana, Chef Button moved to Asheville and created Heirloom Hospitality Group with Meana and her parents. Together, they opened Cúrate, and most recently, Nightbell – a contemporary American small plate restaurant.

Chef Katie Button is a Southern chef with a scientific mind who honed her craft at some of the world’s best restaurants, including elBulli. She is the executive chef and co-owner of Cúrate Tapas Bar and Nightbell in Asheville, North Carolina, where she has earned world-wide recognition and accolades. Chef Button is devoted to high-quality, sustainable cuisine and excellent service. Born in London and raised, chef Preeti Mistry’s innovative cooking is inspired by her multicultural background, Indian heritage and world travels. With almost 12 years in the industry, Preeti’s culinary adventure began at the prestigious Le Cordon Bleu Culinary Academy in London where she studied culinary arts. After moving back to the US she went on to hold Executive Chef roles at the deYoung Museum, the Legion of Honor in San Francisco and Google HQ in Mountain View, CA. She was also a contestant on season six of Bravo’s Top Chef in the U.S. Preeti is currently working on a cookbook set to be published by Running Press in Spring 2018.

Our guest today is Katie Button, the executive chef and co-owner of Asheville, North Carolina restaurants Curate and Nightbell, and author of the new cookbook Curate: Authentic Spanish Food from an American Kitchen, out now from our sister company Flatiron Books. Read the full transcript here: http://bit.ly/2edkq9V

Food & Wine magazine was calling attention to up-and-coming toques before just about any other organization; its Best New Chefs program--which debuted in 1988--even predates the James Beard Foundation Awards by three years. On the heels of the big reveal of the Class of 2016, we're joined in studio by Food & Wine's new editor-in-chief Nilou Motamed and by two just-named Best New Chefs Jeremiah Stone and Fabian von Hauske of Contra and Wildair restaurants in New York City. 2015 inductee Katie Button of Asheville, North Carolina's Curate, shares her experience one year in, and for some historical perspective, 1990 Best New Chef Tom Valenti (most recently of New York City's Ouest) describes the impact of being dubbed a Best New Chef in the program's formative days. This being our last show of the season, we also take a look at the themes that have emerged over the past three months and try to take stock of them with the help of our guests.

Know limitations, ask questions, trust with Chef Katie Button Nathan sits down with chef Katie Button of Curate and Nightbell for the 84th episode of the Finding Asheville podcast. They chat about growing up in South Carolina and New Jersey, how one can get stuck in a particular career path despite being unhappy, how one gets the courage to leave such path, why despite being successful, Katie Button would not recommend opening your own restaurant after only two year’s of cooking experience, how she learned from her experience at El Bulli that structure could pave way for creativity, what lead to the perfect storm of marketing for Curate’s first year success, and why the key to success is understanding your limitations and being courageous enough to ask questions. This episode was mixed at Mojo Coworking at 60 North Market Street in Downtown Asheville. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast via iTunes here to get new episodes to download to your listening devices each week and get caught up on past episodes! Oh and if you are feeling super nice like the Finding Asheville Facebook page here.