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In this KE Report Daily Editorial, we reconnect with Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and Host of the New Orleans Investment Conference (Nov 2–5), to break down the shifting dynamics in the precious metals equity sector, especially the rising tide lifting junior mining stocks. A wave of capital is moving down the food chain, from majors to juniors. Topics covered include: A broad rotation into juniors, with many financings being upsized or quickly closed. The psychological impact of gold's price stability and its role in driving resource stock revaluations. The divergence in valuations for ounces in the ground - and why some juniors are still deeply undervalued. Why silver stocks are suddenly attracting attention, despite higher prices earlier this year. Brien's top silver picks: Vizsla Silver, Aftermath Silver, Hawthorne Resources, Silver Tiger. Exploration-focused drill stories Brien is following this summer: Prospector Metals, K2 Gold, Dryden Gold. Plus, a reminder to join us at the New Orleans Investment Conference in November. Click here to follow Brien's Gold Newsletter and learn more about this year's conference.
Gold above $3,000, silver over $35, and copper near all-time highs - this is the commodity bull market many investors have been waiting for. Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to share his outlook on the rally across precious and base metals and how it's translating into momentum for the mining sector, especially junior stocks. Brien discusses how recent tariff talk and ongoing geopolitical risk have added fuel to a move that's already being supported by strong monetary fundamentals. Central banks continue to buy gold, and now western investors are starting to rotate into the space. With gold mining equities outperforming the metal itself, and juniors seeing increased access to capital, Brien believes the setup is in place for broader gains across the sector. He also outlines how the strength in gold is expected to show up in Q1 earnings, with producers benefiting from significantly higher average prices. As generalist investors screen for performance, gold equities could be too strong to ignore. We also discuss how Brien is positioning his portfolio, why he's adding exposure to select juniors with strong resources or near-term catalysts, and his take on silver and copper stocks, which have yet to fully follow the underlying metals. He shares several company names currently on his radar and explains how he balances taking profits while staying exposed to the upside. Click here to learn more about the Gold Newsletter.
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to dive into the dynamics of the gold stock sector, exploring the roles of major, mid-tier, and junior equites. Brien shares his insights on the current market environment, the impact of consolidation among major miners, and the abundance of promising projects available. We also discuss key factors for evaluating development and exploration plays, including jurisdictions, company strategies, economics, and project potential. Click here to learn more about the Gold Newsletter.
Host: Tracy Shuchart for MicDropMarketsGuestsKeith WeinerKeith Weiner PhD, is an economist and founder and CEO of Monetary Metals, an investment firm that pays interest on gold. He is a leading authority in the areas of gold, money, and credit. He is founder of DiamondWare, a software company sold to Nortel in 2008, and he currently serves as president of the Gold Standard Institute USA. Weiner attended University at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, and earned his PhD at the New Austrian School of Economics.* He blogs about gold and the dollar, and his articles appear on Forbes, Zero Hedge, Kitco, and other leading sites.Brien Lundin With a career spanning four decades in the investment markets, Brien Lundin serves as president and CEO of Jefferson Financial, Inc., a highly regarded producer of investment-oriented events and publisher of investment newsletters and special reports. Under the Jefferson Financial umbrella, Mr. Lundin serves as publisher and editor of Gold Newsletter, the publication that has been the cornerstone of precious metals advisories since 1971, As editor of Gold Newsletter, Mr. Lundin covers not only resource stocks, but also the entire world of investing, from small-caps of every type to macroeconomics and geopolitical issues that ultimately affect every investor.And he is the host of the annual New Orleans Investment Conference, the oldest and most respected investment event of its kind. (which I will be speaking at this year)Grant Williams Grant Williams has logged over 35 years in finance. During that time, he's lived and worked in seven major financial centres from London to Sydney, building the kind of network that many others can only dream about.He began his career in the Japanese equity market in the mid-1980s, before a three-year posting to Tokyo ensured he had a ringside seat as the twin bubbles in equities and real estate burst simultaneously and spectacularly at the end of 1989. After a short stint back in London, Grant relocated once again, this time to New York, where he spent 7 years. Subsequent postings have taken him to Hong Kong, Sydney, Singapore, and the Cayman Islands. Currently, he is a senior advisor to Matterhorn Asset Management AG in Switzerland, and a portfolio and strategy advisor to Vulpes Investment Management in Singapore.He is also host of the Grant Williams podcast along with several others. Disclaimer: This material is presented solely for informational and entertainment purposes and is not to be construed as a recommendation, solicitation, or an offer to buy or sell / long or short any securities, commodities, or any related financial instruments. Please contact a licensed professional before making any investment or trading decisions
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to discuss the breakout in Gold to $2,850, the outperformance of gold and silver stocks, and investment opportunities in the Toodoggone area in BC. Gold and silver prices have shown significant increases, with gold futures nearing $2,850 and silver rising above $32.50. The stocks are also outperforming, with the GDX and SIL ETFs up over 4 and 5% today respectively. Brien emphasizes that it's not one specific news event driving these increases, but a combination of factors including central bank moves and economic data. The discussion also covers the performance of mining stocks, which have started to show leverage to the rising metal prices, with GDX up 16% in January alone. Additionally, we talk about specific stocks and areas showing potential, like the Toodoggone area in BC, where a recent discovery by Amarc Resources has created investor buzz. Brien offers strategic advice for investors, emphasizing the importance of timing and understanding seasonal trends when investing in area plays. Click here to learn more about the Gold Newsletter.
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Every November, the New Orleans Investment Conference draws top investors and economists to explore the most pressing issues influencing today's markets—ranging from precious metals and real estate to energy, the economy, and more. True to its 50 year legacy, the 2024 event was a hotbed of bold ideas and forward-thinking predictions from some of the brightest minds in the industry. What themes stood out? Which forecasts are already unfolding? And what should investors keep in mind moving forward? Tune in and find out as Robert revisits some of the most captivating discussions with one of the event's featured speakers, precious metals expert Dana Samuelson! Visit our Special Reports Library under Resources at RealEstateGuysRadio.com.
This Week, we have an exclusive interview with Brien Lundin, editor of Gold Newsletter and the CEO of the renowned New Orleans Investment Conference. Money Metals' Mike Maharrey and Brien discuss the gold and silver markets and the ever-growing importance of sound money. | Do you own precious metals you would rather not sell, but need access to cash? Get Started Here: https://www.moneymetals.com/gold-loan
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to discuss current trends in the precious metals market, particularly outperformance of silver in the last week. Brien shares insights on recent short attacks on gold and how market forces like geopolitical events have influenced prices. We further explore the outlook for the dollar versus commodities for 2025 and highlight tax loss selling and seasonal market patterns. On the equity front, Brien discusses the appeal of optionality plays and big resource deposits. Lastly, we touch upon the exploration stocks, drill programs he is watching, and the market environment for drill results. Click here to learn more about the Gold Newsletter.
Charles Funk, President and CEO of Heliostar Metals joins me at the New Orleans Investment Conference to share insights into the evolving mining industry, particularly focusing on the transition from junior exploration to a producing gold company. He discusses the challenges faced by junior miners, the impact of financial markets, and the push and pull factors driving companies toward mid-sized profitable mines. Charles also delves into the importance of prudent financial strategies, the benefits of high-quality assets, and the critical role of effective communication in securing investment. Click here to visit the Heliostar Metals website to learn more about the Company.
Nathan Harte, CFO of Avino Silver and Gold Mines (TSX:ASM – NYSE:ASM), joins us from the floor of the New Orleans Investment Conference to recap the key takeaways from the Q3 2024 financials and operations. Then we take a deeper dive into the Company's 5-year production growth plan, to become a Mexican intermediate silver producer, with the development of both the La Preciosa Project and the Tailings Project. Third Quarter 2024 Financial Highlights Revenues of $14.6 million, an increase of 19% from Q3 2023 Gross profit / mine operating income of $5.7 million Mine operating cash flow before taxes of $6.7 million Net income of $1.2 million, or $0.01 per share Adjusted earnings of $5.0 million, or $0.04 per share Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization ("EBITDA")3 of $3.8 million Cash costs per silver equivalent payable ounce sold of $14.94, down 12% from Q3 2023 All in sustaining cash costs per silver equivalent payable ounce sold of $22.06, down 3% from Q3 2023 Nathan outlines the consistent silver, gold, and copper production coming from the Avino Mine, where the Company realized strong revenues driven by higher metal prices and a 13% increase in production at the mine. said Nathan Harte, Chief Financial Officer. He highlighted improvements once again in all key financial metrics compared to Q3 2023, with cash flow generation and improving operating margins bolstering their cash and working capital positions. For the balance of the discussion we shifted over to the ongoing development work at the La Preciosa Project, and once the final explosives permit is received, then work on the underground decline will commence and mining will get underway with first production expected in 2025. Then the Oxide Tailings Project is in cue for a few years out with low ~$10 All-In Sustaining Cost, it will contribute to the 5-year production growth plan. If you have any follow up questions for Nathan or would like further information on any of the topics we discussed please email them to me us at Fleck@kereport.com or Shad@kereport.com. In full disclosure, Shad is a shareholder of Avino Silver & Gold at the time of this recording. Click here to follow along with the latest news from Avino Silver and Gold
Nick Hodge, Co-Owner of Digest Publishing and editor of Foundational Profits and Hodge Family Office, joins us live at the New Orleans Investment Conference for a discussion on how technology is being implemented in the mining sector, and then the macroeconomic factors moving the copper, uranium, and gold markets. First off we get Nick's take on the sentiment and key themes from the conference, and the economic optimism at the event and in the broader market with regards to the Trump administration anticipated policy initiatives. On the macroeconomics front, he briefly touches up on the health of the economy, jobs, inflation, the US dollar, US equities, and separated the noise from what is more likely with regards to tariffs, tax cuts, deficits, and any meaningful cuts in government spending. We then shift over the commodities space, but start off reviewing some key takeaways from his keynote address at the conference covering technology applications and breakthroughs being applied to the mining sector. We talk about the coming battery passports that will be tracking the supply chain and emissions around extractive companies, highlighting the platform that MineHub Technologies Inc. (TSXV: MHUB) (OTCQB: MHUBF) has built. We also discuss how Rio Tinto's Nuton technology is being applied to a copper leaching space by companies like Aldebaran Resources (TSXV:ALDE)(OTCQX:ADBRF). Additionally, we highlight that CoTec Holdings Corp. (TSXV:CTH)(OTCQB:CTHCF) announced that Ceibo has partnered with Glencore‘s (GB:GLEN) Lomas Bayas Mining Company to deploy Ceibo's proprietary leaching technologies targeting a more effective extraction of copper from low-grade sulphides at one of Chile's leading mines. This leads to a broader discussion on the supply and demand fundamentals for the copper markets. With regards to uranium, Nick outlines the bullish tailwinds behind nuclear power both domestically and globally, including an interest from big tech companies into small modular reactors along with reactor restarts to fuel AI datacenters, and just for more baseload power. He reminds listeners that he has remained constructive on uranium longer-term, and is expecting a better year in 2025 than we saw in 2024. For uranium equities he points to why he like an ETF like the Sprott Junior Uranium Miners ETF (URNJ) or liquid mid-tiers like Energy Fuels (NYSE American: UUUU) (TSX: EFR) and Denison Mines (TSX: DML) (NYSE American: DNN); but also is taking a speculation on the management team behind URZ3 Energy (TSX-V: URZ; OTCQB: NVDEF). Wrapping up we cover the fundamentals and Nick's outlook on gold and the gold stocks, and how they are valued in relation to cryptos and the US general equities. He brings up some interesting value and newsflow in companies at the conference like Vista Gold Corp. (NYSE American and TSX: VGZ), new discoveries at Sitka Gold Corp. (TSXV: SIG) (OTCQB: SITKF), and new company launches like Kingsmen Resources (TSXV: KNG) (OTCQB: KNGRF). Click here to follow Nick's analysis and publications over at Digest Publishing
Rob Carpenter, President and CEO of Prospector Metals (TSX.V:PPP - OTCQB:PMCOF - FRA:1ET) sat down with me at the New Orleans Investment Conference to delve into the Company's portfolio of early-stage exploration projects in the Yukon, Ontario and Newfoundland. Rob discusses the flagship project in Yukon, the ML Project, and outlines the Company's drilling plans set to commence next year.This project aims to test eight different targets that have been prepared through extensive geological surveys and mapping. Rob also sheds light on the projects in Ontario, the Savant and Devon Projects and the plans to start drilling next year before the drilling at the Yukon, ML Project. In Newfoundland the Company holds the Toogood Project where a joint venture is in place with a private company. As a background, Rob brings a wealth of knowledge from his extensive background in the resource sector, recounting his journey from a geologist working for major mining companies to becoming President and CEO of Prospector Metals. He shares the story of Kaminak Gold Corporation, a previous venture that led to a substantial acquisition by Goldcorp in 2016. We also touch on the financial structure of Prospector Metals, highlighting investments from B2Gold and their focus on maintaining a tight share structure. If you have any follow up questions for Rob please email me at Fleck@kereport.com. Click here to visit the Prospector Metals website.
Former NFL player, Broadway playwright, best-selling author and in-demand public speaker, Bo Eason, joins us to discuss the power of storytelling and achieving greatness. Bo emphasizes the importance of setting high standards, such as aiming to be the best, and seeking out mentors. He shares his upbringing, where his father instilled confidence by telling him he was the best, which influenced his success. Bo highlights the significance of personal, physical, and unapologetic storytelling to build trust and connect with others. Adopt the mindset of striving to be the best, not just settling for mediocrity. Make the Gold Medal the standard, not the end goal. Develop and share your personal, compelling story to build trust and attract opportunities. Resources: Text "PERSONALSTORY" to 323-310-5504 to receive a free video course from Bo on uncovering your powerful personal story. 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Today's remarkable guest will tell you how so you can become the best version of yourself. He's become the best in more than one endeavor, including playing in the NFL. We'll also learn about the persuasive power of story and how you can find your very best personal story that you do have inside of you. It's a show rated PG for personal growth today on get rich education Speaker 1 0:41 since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors and delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests and key top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast, or visit get rich education.com Corey Coates 1:27 You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. You Keith, Keith Weinhold 1:43 welcome to GRE from Europe's Iberian peninsula to New Iberia, Louisiana and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. As always, I'm grateful to have you along this week. This is get rich education. Most investing is left brained, but most decision making for your investment, choice is right brain. If you don't know the difference, left brain is about the numbers. It's analytical and logical. So left brain people, they're good at math and critical thinking and language as well. If you're more right brained, then you are more creative and emotional, and you tend to be good at recognizing faces and the attribute of diplomacy that's right brained. And it's a right brained kind of episode. Today you're going to learn how to be a performer and be the best at whatever you want to be. I mean, the best, whether that's as a real estate investor, business person, apartment building syndicator, or a real estate agent that's trying to sell homes, it'll even help you become the best parent, child, best spouse, best at basketball, best at table tennis. And you know, you are part of a really well educated and influential audience that we have here. Maybe you're trying to be the best physician or politician or even social media influencer or the best church minister that you can be. And in fact, as it turns out, people that are trying to raise money end up consulting today's guest quite a bit. And as you'll see, this guest really can tell a story. You'll learn that he has achieved elite success, even best in the world, success in a number of different areas. He's had like, three or four successful people's lives, yet he's the same guy. He's sort of like, in a sense, President Elect Donald Trump. Love him or hate him. Trump found success in real estate and then in media, with his show The Apprentice and then as the 45th and 47th president. Well, those disciplines there for Trump, they're somewhat related. Well, today's guest became the best in areas that aren't even related to each other at all, which is even more amazing. So therefore, maybe today it's really more of an Arnold Schwarzenegger parallel. I mean, Schwarzenegger, he was first the successful bodybuilder, winning Mr. Olympia, then he went on to become a successful actor. He married into the Kennedy family, and he became the California governor. Well, before I introduce you to today's guest, well, we are a wealth building show here, and as we talk about being the best in something, you know, I really want to ask you a question, Are you content with being middle class? You know, despite the way that inflation has ravaged it us, middle class life isn't all that bad. In fact, it's pretty good in a lot of ways, from the iPhone to the luxury of having a gym membership. I mean, that's just middle class stuff. Sheesh. Life is so good that when it's time to reset a password, people treat that as some sort of existential crisis. And you know, this is the time of year that even the middle class indulge in, say, pretty elaborate Christmas decorations. In fact, I increasingly notice that it's more and more common to hire a Christmas decorating contractor to decorate your real estate for you. They'll get ladders and a lift truck to hang lights in your tallest trees. That's something that the middle class does. Here's a new one. There's at least one mainstream, I guess, paper products company that now makes toilet paper with perforations that are wavy instead of being straight across, because it's easier to tear that way. So I think that you could make the case that American middle class life really isn't too bad, but in your life, if you want to be all that you can be, or anywhere close, you're not going to settle for something that's just better than not too bad. You can want more, and you should want more because you're capable of more, if for nothing else create the type of value for the world so that you can have more free time for yourself. I expect to have a terrific time and learn some things here where I am today in New Orleans for the 50th anniversary of the New Orleans Investment Conference, we've got speakers and exhibits covering real estate investing, economics, a lot of gold investing material at this conference Bitcoin and even stocks. And of course, I invited you, the listener here the past couple months, to come to the conference and meet in real life. As this is about to kick off, I wonder if I will find someone to go running with me. I always go running along the Mississippi River. Here in New Orleans, there is a trail paralleling the river right here, close to the event site. Yeah, I think I'm recovered from a mild back injury by now. Gosh, it was so weird. I hurt my back at the gym last month. And here's the thing. Somehow I heard it while doing my warm up exercises, of all things, sheesh. In fact, this is a triumvirate of fitness paradoxes here in doing this. Number one, warm ups are activities that you do before you work out to prevent hurting yourself, but I hurt myself in the warm up. Secondly, I never seem to injure myself while running steep, rocky trails or skiing down slopes outdoors, but indoors where the floor is level, that's the place where I seem to get injured. And then thirdly, the gym is where you go to improve your fitness, not lose fitness. So yes, that is the triumvirate of paradoxes there. Well, our guest, you know, he really knows the power of story, and just listen to him. I bet he'll tell a better story than hurting my back at the gym. Let's meet him. Today, we have a guy with massive ambitions who I know is going to bring out the best in you during his lifetime, he's chased what it means to be world class, not just in one discipline, but in five different disciplines, and he's achieved a true level of greatness in all of them. He has played in the NFL for four seasons with Houston, then went on to become a San Francisco 49er, next, a super successful Broadway playwright, then an in demand public speaker, most recently, an eight time best selling author, and he has gone on to write screenplays for movie stars, so get ready to hear him talk about the one factor that's been the driving force behind his success in all of these disciplines. Hey, welcome to get rich education. Bo Eason. Bo Eason 9:13 Keith, thanks for having me. Keith Weinhold 9:14 Well, it's the first time that we have a former NFL player on the show, and Bo played the same position that my favorite football player of all time did, Ryan Dawkins, that is the safety position. But we're not here to discuss football so much as how you can build the architecture of success like Bo has and Bo your success is astounding, and our listeners hope that some of their virtual proximity to you rubs off on them today, I do too, and it's remarkable because you've reached the pinnacle of success in some of these disciplines that don't even seem to be related to each other at all. So what can you reveal here? Is there one common driver that led to them all? Bo Eason 9:58 Man, you know what? That's. A great question, going back the way my dad woke us up as kids. So I'm the youngest of six kids, so I grew up on a ranch, on a farm in northern California. My dad was a cattle rancher, and I four older sisters and a brother who's a year older than me, so every morning he woke up all six of us to go do our chores, you know, on this ranch at five in the morning, and he would wake us up by rubbing our backs. He pulled back the covers. He'd rub our backs really hard, like, not easy, not like gentle, like dads of today, like this was a cowboy, you know, with dirty hands and rough hands. And he would rub our back and he would whisper in our ear and tell us that we were the best. And so for the first 18 years of my life, every morning he'd come into me in my brother's room. He'd wake up my brother in the same way he woke me up by rubbing his back and whispering his ear, you're the best. Get up, you're the best. And after you hear that for 18 years, my brother went off to college. I went off to college. My sisters all went off to college. And I always think back to those eight first 18 years, because when I would come home and visit our parents. So my brother got drafted. He was the first round pick of the New England Patriots. He was the quarterback for the New England Patriots took them to their first Super Bowl. So that best term worked out for him. And then I was a second round pick for the Houston Oilers, and got to play with them for several years. And this term, I always thought back to it, like, Why was my dad saying that? Because when we were growing up, when we were playing Little League, and we're playing sports, when we were kids, we actually weren't the best. But he wouldn't say that we were like, I would strike out every time in Little League, I was so bad at baseball, and every time he would yell at me through the chain link fence that I was the best, and my teammates are like, You got to be kidding me, Bo What is your dad even saying You're the worst? And he's telling you you're the best for most of our lives, the first half of our lives, it was a source of embarrassment to me and my brother and I remember going on a date one time, a double date with my brother. In fact, I couldn't even drive my brother could, and we went on a this double date with the thomasini sisters. So we were going, and my dad walks out to the car with us, and we're like, What the heck is my What's dad doing? Why is he coming out to the car with us? He came out there to tell us that we were leaders and that we were the best before a date. And I'm like, Dad, go in the house, right? And then finally, you know me and my brother, we weren't recruited as football players coming out of high school. Not one person, not one college recruited us, but we had these dreams of being pro football players, and at that time, 350 colleges played college football, but no one wrote us a letter. No one recruited us. So my brother went to a junior college, and then he ended up, after that, got a scholarship to the University of Illinois, and then became a first round pick. Well, I went to a school called UC Davis in Northern California, which was division two football and no scholarships. So basically, no one was on scholarship. There. You just walked on and you played football for fun. Well, that's where I went. And then, you know, cut to four years later, my brother's a first round pick. I'm a second round pick, and we always looked back from that point on, deciding, like Dad always embarrassed us, friends in front of our dates, in front of everybody. But then at that point, 21, 22 years old, we looked back, we said, Man, you know what? We just kind of surrendered to, what he saw in us, and we were the best. We were the best at our positions, and the only reason we were is because we had somebody who saw our greatness and pretty much spoke it into existence. Now, when you grow up like that, Keith, you think you assume that every other kid has grown up like that too, right? But that wasn't true, right? We thought it was true. You know, it turns out that the other guys we were playing with, the other guys who are our teammates, they did not grow up like that. So I would say that that principle was huge for me and my brother, just somebody who saw something in us that we couldn't see for ourselves, and he did it up to a point where we began to see it for ourselves. He just was very patient. And, you know, I find myself doing this with my kids. I have three kids, and they're all going to be d1 athletes, two of them are already, wow. Yeah, and it's because that's how I woke him up, too, like so I know that's kind of a simple story, but it really set the foundation for us, and here's how it did, Keith, it told me what was expected of us, even when we weren't the best. He was expecting us to live into what he saw, and we did, and I found my kids to do the same, like I was looking at my kids, and I was like, Man, are they going to be athletes like me and my brother are at that level, because that was their dreams, right? But I didn't know if they had what it took. As I woke them up every morning, I could see them starting to live into their potential or live into their birthright. So I think to start off with Keith, that was a principle that is a mainstay. It taught me not only what was expected of me, but what I could set the standard for other people, and then they would live on into that standard, been able to do that. So those couple of things were huge in my upbringing. Keith Weinhold 16:02 Well, this is remarkable, and I think you're already giving the parents in our audience quite a few ideas. Bo, this phrase, you're the best kind of got indelibly baked into your being and who you are, your dad even chasing you around on a double date, reinforcing you're the best and you know, Bo, I think that a person can be simultaneously grateful for what they have yet at the same time strive for more, as often say here on the show and adopting an abundance mindset with wealth building. Don't live below your means, grow your means. Now, I was watching an NFL football game just this past weekend, and a commercial came on for the IBEW, the labor union, and Bo it struck me as so odd that a trainee at the IBEW smiled, and they were all gratified that they were part of the IBEW. And they said, this is like now I have my golden ticket to the middle class, which I mean, because being middle class isn't like altogether awful in the United States, but it just sounded like this was the be all and end all, and hey, now I have a guarantee of mediocrity in my life that struck me as so odd. I don't think their father was telling them you're the best like yours did. Bo Eason 17:21 No, they definitely did not. I'm always shook by that too, where people will sometimes come to me and they go, Bo, I want to push back on being the best. I just want to, you know, be kind of a good player, kind of medium wealth. And I'm like, Well, if you want to push back on me, you should take that up with Mother Nature, because if you just go back to the day that we were conceived, you know, if we want to have a little refresh of course on the day we were conceived, you were going to find out that there was the odds of us even being born were 300 million to one, and we were the champion of that first race that we entered right like 300 million to one odds, you're the champion, and yet here we are, you and me number one. You know, the gold medalists of those odds, and now we're supposed to be born into a world and be mediocre. I don't think Mother Nature set it out like that. I don't think that's how it happened. I think the standard is the gold medal, not the silver medal. You know, it's the gold medal. Now, some people win silver medals. If they lose the gold that's fine, that's great, but the gold medal is the thing. And I think the minute we lower ourselves from that. We're just trying to give ourselves a soft landing, I think, and then we don't ask enough of our potential, which is, if you're following Mother Nature, your potential is 300 million to one odds, and you already won that gold medal. So what are you doing? You know? What are you doing? So, as I progressed, Keith, so I went from football, I played in the lake for five years, and I didn't know what I was going to do, right? So I just started again. I just said, so instead of being the best safety in the world, because that was my first declaration, I just said, I want to be the best safety in the world. That's it. So I was able to achieve that. And then when football was over, I did the same thing for playwriting and performing. I just said, I don't care. I know I don't have any experience in this, but I'm going to declare right now, and I draw it up, that I'm going to be the best stage performer of my time. So that principle has worked every time, but I had to use the term the best. And I don't know why. I guess it was just locked in my brain. But here's the next thing, the next principle that I think is important for the audience. And this goes for wealth building. This goes for whatever you want to build, whether it's your family or, you know, an apartment complex. It doesn't matter we're building stuff. And here's what I did the second. All around I said, I want to be the best stage performer, the best playwright of my time. So I didn't know how to do that. So I moved to New York City because I knew everybody did plays there. They did Broadway, they did off Broadway. And I asked everybody in my class, who's the best at this this was in 1990 who is the best at this stage performance. And every kid in my class, and there were kids I was a little older because I was playing football, I said, Where is the best stage performer of our time? Who is it? And they all said, Al Pacino. And I said, Cool. Where is he? And they said, Well, I don't know where he is. He's on a movie set somewhere, or, you know, rehearsing for a theater show. And I said, I want to know him. I want to meet him, because only the best can tell me how to be the best. Only the best can tell me how to take his mantle of being the best stage performer. Wow, most people don't think that, or say that. You said Brian Dawkins, me too. I'm like, who's the best safety in the world? Let me go talk to that dude, because that dude knows what, like Ronnie. Lott, was that for me? Jack Tatum, Ronnie. Lott, those kind of guys I ended up playing with. Ronnie. Lott, you know you end up playing with these guys. You know the guys you're looking up to? Well, within a week of me asking these kids in my class, where is Al Pacino? I'm having dinner with Al Pacino, in New York City and I go, Dude, what do I do? What do I do? You tell me, I'll do it. And he goes, Okay, Bo, I'll draw it up for you. We'll draw it up. You know what that's going to take, but that's going to take you 15 years, and I go, perfect. That's my kind of timeline. I'm good like that, you know? And he goes, Okay, so he drew it up and I did what he said. He told me who to work with. Basically, he's telling me to put my butt on a stage. More than any other person can put their butt on a stage. So I go, I can control that, that I know how to control, because that's what I did. As far as training to be the best safety. I wasn't the best safety, but as the years went by, guess what? I passed up everybody who was ahead of me. You know, you're the top safety in the league. Well, same thing for being on Broadway, he told me what to do. I did exactly what he told me to do. And 15 years later, I am opening a play in New York City that I wrote that I'm the only guy in and I swear I was so nervous before opening night to run out and look Keith I had played against the biggest and baddest dudes on the planet. You know, I wasn't as scared as going out on a stage to face those dudes. I would rather face refrigerator Perry or Walter Payton than going out on a Broadway stage. And I went out on starting the play, I am having an out of body experience because I'm the only one. I'm talking to the audience. The New York critics are in the house. Everybody's in there. And I make eye contact with a guy right on the row. He's sitting right on the aisle. It's Al Pacino. I had seen him in 15 years. He told me what to do. I did what he said. He's in my play, I wrote, and I'm the only guy, Al Pacino, the best stage performer of all time, is sitting right there on the aisle. That's so cool. And he's nodding his head. He's like, Yeah, I'm doing you did it. And so a you have to have a declaration, and that declaration has to be the best. So the declaration of being the best safety, being the best playwright, being the best stage performer, those things actually come true because you have a declaration which you're living into existence instead of following some to do list, right? I did the same thing for playwriting. I did the same thing with Al Pacino, and that career really set me off because I performed that play 17 years. One play 17 years it immediately gets bought by Castle Rock pictures as a movie. Frank Darabont bought the play as a movie. And I don't know if you know who Frank Darabont is, but he's the guy who wrote and directed the Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile Saving Private Ryan collateral. He's the guy who his team's TV show he created is The Walking Dead. So this dude was nominated for 12 Academy Awards for writing and directing. He bought my play to produce it for him, and so he hired me, who's never written a screenplay, to write the screenplay for him. This dude has been nominated for 12 Academy Awards for lighting, and he hires me. I go, Dude, don't hire me because I've never written a screenplay. I don't understand it. I don't get it. I'm not a great speller. In fact, I do. Don't even have a computer. And he goes, I don't care about that. I think you can tell the story. Yeah. And I go, okay, so he was hiring me basically based on my guts or my heart, and we did that. So he bought that. I wrote the screenplay for him. Then Leonardi DiCaprio and Toby McGuire come to the play. They come running backstage, they say, Bo, we want you to write a movie for us. And I go, You know what, you guys, I don't write movies. They go, we pay a lot of money for our screenwriters. We think you can do it. And I go, Yeah, based on that money, I think I can do it too. And so the crazy part about this whole thing is it all falls back to this ability to share myself, to tell a story, to tell a story that has physicality to it, that has heart to it, the ability to do that has really given me all these occupations. And then people came to me like business owners from Wall Street. They would come to the play like with their wife, because their wife wanted to go to the theater and they were watching my play. Well, they would come backstage, Keith, and they would say, Hey, man, I want you to bring this to my fortune 500 company. And I'm like, wait, what do you mean? What do you I don't this is a play. I don't take this to Fortune 500 companies. This play, you got to come to the theater. They go, No, we don't want to. I want our sales force. I want our leadership executives to learn to do what you do on stage. I was like, what? I couldn't believe it. Me and my wife, we're like, going, I don't understand what you read. They said it's the funniest thing, because typically, when you're on Broadway, the people who come backstage to see you, they shake your hand, or they get you autograph and they say, Wow, you're a terrific performer. Or what great writing. That's what they usually say, right? Not my play. They come backstage and they don't say, I'm great. This is what they say, Can you teach my people to do what you just did? Yeah, on stage, we're like, of course, because I was taught I could retrace my steps. And I can teach business people, leaders, doesn't matter the business coaches, whatever I can teach them to express themselves in front of other people, which then makes them wealthy, because in the end, I learned Keith that whoever tells the best story wins. Keith Weinhold 27:33 Yeah, I want to get to the power of story after the break before we do that when one knows that the best that word is out there for them, I think oftentimes they're stricken with fear. Fear is a great obstacle. How do you overcome the fear from listening to you? It seems to me that your mechanism for coping with fear and becoming the best is facing it, getting in there and getting the reps. Speaker 2 28:00 Yeah, 100% there's a great quote, the world was not created by great men, the world was created by a demanding situation where great men then rose. So we don't know our greatness until we're faced with a demanding situation. So if you're nine, you have no obstacles in your life, you're like, Wow, this is really fun. I'm living on a farm. There's pals, there's horses. What a nice life. And then Bo created his own problem. He created a declaration that said, I want to be the best safety in the world. Well, right then, right when I got creative. Now, Bo's life became a demanding situation where I had to grow strong and I had to eat right, I had to exercise, I had to run faster than anybody else. So I created all these demanding situations for my life. But that's the only way to reveal character. No NFL team is drafting anybody who doesn't have a characteristic that makes you a successful NFL player, and the only way to get those characteristics is to lose is to get your butt kicked, is to face your opposing players that's putting yourself in a demanding situation. So us, you know, as successful guys and successful gals, we kind of get satisfied and so that we forget to keep putting ourselves in demanding situations. That's where the fear comes in. Because once you're in a demanding situation, you get scared. You're like, oh, do I have what it takes to do this? And then you discover by going forward that you actually do. You do have what it takes, and fear is like a made up thing, and you start to realize that you're the creator of your own fear. So look, when I wrote the play in New York, I had never written anything in my life. Like I said, I couldn't spell good. I didn't have a computer, but here's what I did have. I had the ability, because I already did this in my life. I knew how to put myself in a demanding situation and then take a step forward. I knew how to do that based on my football career. I knew it so the principles of being the best safety in the world and being the best playwright in the world are the exact same principles. You have to have the declaration. It has to be at a standard that's way out of your comfort zone that puts you in that demanding situation. Then you have to start running the miles. Then you have to hire an expert coach that sees you clearly, and it is a critical thinker like can see you and go, Bo, stop that. Do that. Stop doing that. And do that just like a nutritionist. Hey, I want to live longer. I want to be there for my daughters when they walk down the aisle. Okay, then you better stop eating this and start eating that. You have to have these experts in your life to fulfill on your birthright of being the best. So now you just break your life down. I just broke my life down like five different times because I enter a new era, like screenplays. How am I going to write a screenplay? I don't know how. I don't understand, but here's what I do. Know how to do. I know how to work. I know how to be the best. Those principles are pretty much the same as safety and playwright. So the guy who buys my play to hire me as a screenplay writer is the greatest screenwriter in Hollywood. So he's the guy paying me, he's the guy coaching me, he's the guy looking over my shoulder going, Bo Don't say that. Say this, say less, do this. Those are just first three principles. We're talking about the best. The standard has to be sky high. Otherwise it's not going to be demanding. It's not going to require enough of your humanity to fulfill on yourself. So it's got to be there. Then you've got to take the time to run the miles to do this thing, and you cut your time in half, or less than a half, by having somebody who is an expert mentor or an expert coach. A guy like Al Pacino, a guy like Frank Darabont who just goes, Bo do this. Don't do that. A guy like Ronnie Lott, both don't do that, do this. And I just do what they say, because, guess what, they're the best in the world at what they do. You guys, those principles, I found I just keep repeating them over and over again. Now a lot of you might be saying, Bo, that's a little much for me, because I don't know Al Pacino or I don't know Ronnie Lott, and I don't know Frank darabonda. You guys, I didn't know him either. I didn't know him either, but I do know this the best in their field, whoever that is, don't say you want to be the wealthiest person on the planet. Well, the wealthiest person on the planet is more available than you think. Guess why? Because everyone thinks they're too busy and they don't ask of their time. You ask of their time. No one's asking of Al Pacino's time. Guess why? Because they don't want what he has. They want to be famous. I wasn't interested in fame. They want to get an agent in Hollywood. I wasn't interested in that. I was interested in what Al Pacino had, which was he was the best stage performer of his time. That they're willing to tell you, because they know if you're asking that question, they want to be involved with you. Keith Weinhold 33:44 right, because you dared to ask. And they can probably perceive your ambition, and people can sense that, and they love that, and it sure can be scary to say, but fear should be your guide. You should follow your fear. We all know that that's where the growth is. It's like the gap in the game. It's been said that the gap between where we are and where we want to be lies our greatest opportunity for growth. 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We're on a mindset journey today to help you level up, be a better person and even be the best.Talking with former NFL football player Bo Eason, and Bo, you're such a powerful storyteller, and I think it's a really important time to be a powerful storyteller. Trust in institutions seems to be at an all time low, from the government to the media. This is partly why the rise of influencer culture has become a thing. So tell us about how a powerful personal story can build instant trust and connection in seconds. Even when it seems like trust is at an all time low. Bo Eason 37:07 it is at an all time low. That's what Gallup does a poll every year on trust. The question they ask is, do you trust your neighbor? And it's at its lowest it's ever been. They started this in 1972 but it's down to single digits. This is your neighbor. This isn't somebody across the street. This is this isn't somebody in the next town or the next state you know, or the next country. This person you share a backyard fence with. Keith Weinhold 37:34 right? Like you're afraid to ask them to check for packages on your front porch when you're on a vacation or something. Yeah, the trust Bo Eason 37:41 below. But everybody gets depressed by the statistic. I get excited about it because there is one group of us that can restore trust. It is the storyteller. It's not just the storyteller, you guys, it's the person who can share themselves personal story, not just a story, although stories, you know, work, and they've always worked for 1000s of years, but personal stories move the dial the most. Give you the most Trust, the most credibility. Personal stories like if I say to you a sentence like this, when I was nine years old, I had this dream, so I decided to draw up a 20 year plan to achieve my dream. If I tell you a sentence like that, you and me, even though it's a simple sentence, right? It's personal to me. Well, personal equals universal. Whenever you're telling a personal story, it affects your audience that much more, because your audience locates themselves inside of your story. That is the science of storytelling, and that's why you earn trust by sharing yourself personally. Now most people don't want to do that. They push back, especially business people, especially left brain, analytical type people, they say to me, Bo I'm not going to share myself, because who cares about my story? And I say everybody, you're just telling the wrong story. You have to tell it very personal and very specific to you, and it has to be a pain point. It has to be a low point in your life. That's where you start the story, because if you start at the top, there's no place to go with story. It's like, think of rocky everybody. Sylvester Stallone was a very smart guy. He was an unemployed actor, and he said, I'm going to employ myself for the rest of my life. Guess how he plays the role of Rocky? He writes the role of Rocky. Who does he put in front of him, Apollo Creed, the greatest heavyweight champion in the world, a character named after a god that's called great storytelling. He put Mount Everest in front of him. And if you notice, that's what he's always done every movie he writes. He's given himself a career because he puts himself at the base of Mount Everest every time. Well, that's where I want you to put yourself. What is your story? Where did you get rejected? It's always at a younger age. You know, Michael Jordan's story is the same as Tom Brady's story is the same story that I have, which is, we all were rejected in high school. We all were told we weren't good enough to play a high school sport. So what did we become the best in our fields? That's what always happens. That's always the story of an elite athlete. So I want you guys sharing yourselves with these stories, and these stories are kind of the ones you kind of don't want to tell because they reveal certain things about you that are kind of humiliating. But humility is the best connective tissue that us human beings have. Isn't that weird? Embarrassment is a great connective tissue success. Isn't that connective? Isn't that weird? Keith Weinhold 40:58 Yeah, I mean, embarrassment is self deprecating. Most people like that, and everyone can relate to failing. Bo Eason 41:05 Yep, there's three rules I live by when it comes to storytelling. You guys knew. Number one, it's got to be personal. It's got to be personal. The more personal, the richer you are. It's got to be personal. Guys, I've talked you into this, if I haven't already. Number two, you guys, if you're thinking about wealth, I would think about it in those terms right now. Secondly, it's got to be physical. Stories are physical living things, living, breathing, human things. You can't tell a story like a boring people tell stories they Well, when I grew up, I was poor, and then I walked over to the store, they wouldn't let me have a candy bar. It's boring, it's stupid. It is not physical. You have to embody the story with your physicality. You have to become your story, you guys. I know this might sound crazy to you, but the more physical you are in your life. Now, listen to me, the more physical you are in your life, the more money you make. People don't trust what comes out of anybody else's mouth anymore. They don't trust it. They trust your body 100% of the time. I wish you could see my body right now, because it is alive, and you could probably feel it even though I'm you can just hear my voice. You can hear the physicality of the residents of my voice. Now, the more physical you are in your life, the richer you are, and that's across the board. I don't care if you're a ballet dancer, I don't care if your speaker. I don't care what your occupation is. If you are physical and unapologetic about your physicality, then you're going to make a lot of money. But if you're walking around on eggshells, people know it. If you're walking around apologizing for your masculinity or your femininity, and you're like, you know, you're just half stepping everything. You see people like this all the time. What do you do with them? You dismiss them. But when somebody walks in and you turn your head, you know to look. You heard somebody come in behind you, you turn and look, why? Because they have a presence and they're unapologetic. That is a learned trait, or I should say it's relearning human trait. I've been trained by the greatest movement coach in the world, you guys. The only reason I was trained by him 17 years I was trained by him because every time I saw somebody acknowledge when they won the Academy Award an actor, they would acknowledge this guy. And I go, who the hell this guy that everyone keeps acknowledging keeps thanking for their Academy Award for some performance. I want to know what this guy's doing. I want to know what he's doing with these performers. And he told me where I went and met him. He goes, No one has ever won an award for what they said. No one it's what they did physically. That's how you win. And he's the guy who taught me well. So you guys, number one, the story has got to be personal. Number two, the story has got to be physical, unapologetic. It's so attractive when this happens. That's what I train people to do, because that's what I was trained to do. And then when all these CEOs and stuff started coming to the play, that's what they wanted, that now, you guys, they didn't know to ask me that. They just said, Can you teach my people to do what you do on stage? I go, of course, because I was taught the thing they wanted most was they wanted people to trust their sales people or their leadership team. They wanted all their employees, including them, to be physical in the world, because that is powerful. And you're going to watch this. You can watch this in elections. You can watch this in politicians. The reason they hide behind those podiums is their body betrays them. Their body betrays them. If I ever got hired to coach them, which I've always turned them down, I would put them out in the open like an animal so we can see their whole body, because that we can trust but we don't trust somebody standing behind a podium. Very critical. Keith Weinhold 45:23 Well, there's a lot there. Yes, so much is conveyed through body language. People like decisiveness and commitment. You talk about how to make a story personal. When you had mentioned when you were nine years old, you laid out a 20 year plan for your life. When you said that me as a listener, that just makes me naturally want to lean in and ask a question about that and let you go on, for example. But when you talk about how stories need to be made personal, why don't we wrap up on how does storytelling work in business? Then say that a real estate investor is trying to attract co investors to his apartment building deal. For example, how would you use story there? Bo Eason 46:07 Oh, yeah, great question. So many of my clients are people that raise money, whether it's for profit or non profit. They are in the business of building a company, and so they're always asking for money. Well, there's a guy used to run a studio in Hollywood, I think it was Warner Brothers, and he did an experiment. He was building a studio. So he needed millions and millions of dollars, so he went to all his rich friends, and he put a contract out in front of them. One contract only had numbers and percentages and columns written on it. Here's how much you'll invest. Tell us how much you'll make after five years all that stuff. The other contract was the same deal, no numbers, no monies, no percentages, only story, a story of belonging, a story of making a difference. He says, 100% choose the story contract, not the numbers, purpose. There's nothing. There's nothing to connect to. Yeah, I work in the finance world a lot. You guys, people, you know, high wealth, they always want to talk about numbers. And I'm like, rich people are all right brain. You know that? So every billionaire, every millionaire in the world, is right brain, not left right their right brain. But the people managing their money or raising their money are left brain. So they want to talk about numbers. And I'm saying, you guys, you can't talk about numbers, because rich people don't know what you're talking about. Rich people want to belong. They want to see themselves inside the business that you're building. So you better have a hell of a story, and that best story wins no matter what, Best Story wins. If you and me are both building a skyscraper in New York City. If I got a better story than you, guess what skyscrapers gonna get built? Mine. That's got nothing to do with money, because money is everywhere. Money's like air. It's more abundant than air and water. There's money everywhere. But what are rich people attracted to story? Why do you think they call it show business? Show, I'm the show, you're the show. You're the storyteller. The Business People bring the money to the show so rich people don't know how to make movies, they don't know how to tell stories, but they want to give you the money so that you can tell yours. Of course, that's how this thing works. That's why show and business always go together. There's a great saying rich men, when they sit down to dinner, they speak of art. When artists sit down to dinner, they speak of money. Artists sit down to dinner, they speak of money. When finance people sit down to dinner, they speak of art. So they're completing one another. You've got to be an artist. You've got to be able to tell your story, because their dreams and their big bank accounts relying on your vision of what you're going to build that makes you an artist, that makes you here go build what you've got to build here. I want to be a part of it. Keith Weinhold 49:28 Yeah, I've never heard that before that's remarkable in using story to connect with others, something that seems to be bleeding and so badly needed for connectivity today. Well, Bo this has been great, talking about the best, talking about the power of story. You do so many things to help people in their own growth journey and to expand their own mindset. Tell us about your resource for that. Bo Eason 49:56 You know what? Because the first thing that when I say, look. Got to find your personal story. Most people go, I don't have one. Well, that's just not true. Everybody has a story. I've worked with 1000s of people, and everyone's got a great, dramatic story. They just don't know it. So I'll send you a free story guide. It's a video course. It's going to give you some prompts, and we're going to find your powerful, personal signature story, so you can begin to use it today. So all you got to do is text me. So text PERSONAL STORY, the word PERSONAL STORY, one word personal story. Text that to this number, 323-310-5504. that's text. Personal story. One word, personal story, to 323-310-5504, text me that, and I will automatically send you a story guide. To start to uncover this thing,you'll start to realize, Wow, I do have a cool story that I can begin to tell whether I'm in the Oval Office or whether I'm in front of 1500 people at us in a speech, you can open with your personal story. It works and it attracts people to you. If I was in your guys shoes, you're interested in building wealth. Me too. If I'm building wealth, guess what? I'm beginning with personal story, and then I just get to go right to the top, because people are only interested in other people who have a vision bigger than the people have for themselves. And that's you. That's you. And your personal story, you have a vision that is bigger than the people have for themselves. If you can do that, guess what? People got to buy into that, they got to invest in, that they got to be around that. They got to marry that. Keith Weinhold 51:47 Oh, you're so right. I really think this is going to help a lot of our listeners. You the listener, you probably have several good stories inside you, and Bo can really help bring them out, who have the benefit of seeing him on video, he's a really powerful speaker. I've had that same benefit of seeing him on video. You've only listened to him so far. Check out his resource if you think you can benefit from it. Bo, he said, It's surely been valuable. Thanks so much for coming on to the show. Bo Eason 52:15 Keith, thanks for having me. Keith Weinhold 52:23 Oh, such sharp insights from a motivating guy, Bo Eason, this week. And hey, if you have kids, are you going to wake them up by hard, rubbing their back in the morning and telling them you're the best? Well, it seemed to work for a little review about what you learned. Bo talked about how the standard is the gold medal, not the end goal, but that the gold medal is actually the standard. That's his mindset. So Bo made sure he met Al Pacino. When they got dinner, he found out that Pacino was the best, so he sought out the best and made sure to get around him. And a lot of people are scared to do that or even ask about the best. And, you know, I just can't help but think that that's like my life experience with women. In high school, I was just so shy and deathly afraid to ask anyone out. But in college and beyond, you know, sometimes I would ask out the most attractive woman, and they would usually say no, but, you know, I can't believe some of them actually would say yes. And see, the more that you do this, the more confident you get. And women like confidence, and can feel that coming from you. And then, so therefore your fear dissipates and it becomes easier to overcome. You have a unique fingerprint in this world, and you yourself. You do have an interesting story. I just know that you have it in you, but the chances are you've never even told your highest and best story to one other human being on this earth, not even once, and perhaps I haven't either. Bo said his stories need to be personal, physical and unapologetic, and his video, course, helps you find your personal story. And if you didn't catch that again, you can get it by texting one word PERSONALSTORY to 323-310-5504. Coming up in future weeks here on the show, it's probably Yeah, more left brain strategic real estate investing content than right brained emotional content like today's show. But one right brain topic coming up on the show that I want to share with you. I want to tell you why, as a society, we hate Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, because he's wealthy. But yet, society does not dislike wealthy singers like Olivia Rodrigo, Taylor Swift and Dua Lipa. We love them even though they're wealthy. We. Don't resent an actor like Robert Downey, Jr for making $600 million as an actor in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. So it's all about why we vilify successful entrepreneurs for their wealth, including landlords, yet somehow we glorify successful actors, athletes and entertainers for being wealthy. It's a case study that I've been working on. I shared some of it with our newsletter readers last week, and I'll have more on that here on the show. Signing off from the Grand New Orleans investment conference, the nation's longest running investing conference. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream. Speaker 3 55:43 Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get rich Education LLC, exclusively Keith Weinhold 56:03 The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building get rich education.com.
Jim Paterson, Co-Founder and Principle of Discovery Group joined me at the New Orleans Investment Conference to discuss the current trends in the precious metals market, the challenges faced by equity values, and the intricacies of fundraising in today's financial environment. Jim compares the rise in precious metals prices with the lag in equity movements, explaining factors behind this disparity. We discuss the high cost of capital in today's market and how discerning funding decisions are shaping the industry's future. Jim also offers insights into the daily challenges faced in exploration and the growing strategy of acquisitions. I also ask about the intricacies of permitting across different global regions and the role it plays in project development. Additionally, we discuss the interest of institutional and retail investors in various metals, emphasizing the shifting focus towards critical minerals like lithium and copper. Jim provides a thorough examination of M&A activities and the potential for junior companies to be acquired by majors. Click here to visit the Discovery Group website.
Investing in Bizarro World Episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIAfIjKxr02sAztzlJNy1ug5bDvTVZkME&si=w2d_EF-B5jMo1dYD Subscribe to Investing In Bizarro World: @bizarroworld This week's podcast was recorded live at the New Orleans Investment Conference. It has become a tradition for us to do this over the past few years. This was the 50th anniversary of the famous event, which is the largest gathering of sound money advocates and mining investors in the country. As such, this episode kicks off with a discussion of the dollar and gold, both of which have been strong of late. Gold is back over near $2,700 per ounce after just delivering its biggest weekly gain since October 2023. This comes as the dollar is also strong. And so are bond yields. And so is the S&P. And so is Bitcoin. Can everything stay strong forever? We look at the dollar through the lens of an incoming Trump presidency and the announcement of a Department of Government Efficiency. We're old enough to remember his last term though, when the money supply and the debt both expanded, and the dollar sank after he took office. And we spend the balance of the podcast espousing the benefits of private placements, and we go over the last few stocks we've purchased this way, all of which are up. They include a Mexican silver play as well as a uranium exploration company. We are funding another company right now that you can learn more about here. https://bit.ly/3ZmZHUUOr call Jimmy Mengel, our Director of Customer Experience, at 844-334-4700 to learn more. It's all in the 294th episode of Investing in Bizarro World. 0:00 Intro1:34 All of These Narrative Can't Coexist4:35 Gold Beats DOGE9:25 Private Placement Review and Opportunities for Accredited Investors23:15 Premium Stock PicksVisit our website Daily Profit Cycle for more content like this and more! https://dailyprofitcycle.com/
Welcome to The KE Report Weekend Show! It was s busy week at the New Orleans Investment Conference. We will have interviews from the...
Welcome to The KE Report Weekend Show! It was s busy week at the New Orleans Investment Conference. We will have interviews from the show floor released throughout next week so be sure to check the website and your podcast player to stay up to date. This weekend's show is focused on investing in commodities and commodity stocks. The metals of focus are gold, uranium, oil and natural gas. Thank you to all of your who swung by our booth this week. It was great to connect and hear your thoughts on the conference. Segment 1 & 2 - Byron King, Geologist and writer at the Paradigm Press Group, joins me from the floor of the New Orleans Investment Conference to discuss the gold sector's current state, highlighting its performance and miners' challenges. He shares insights on uranium's potential, backed by bipartisan support in the U.S. Bryan also provides stock recommendations in the gold and uranium sectors. Click here to visit the Paradigm Press Group website. Segment 3 and 4 - Shift focus to the oil and nat gas sectors, Dan Steffens, President of the Energy Prospectus Group wraps up the show by sharing his insights on the current oil price trends, the potential impact of Trump's policies, and the future of natural gas pricing. Additionally, Dan provides a detailed analysis of Ovintiv's (NYSE:OVV) recent acquisitions and sales, and discusses the broader landscape of M&A activities in the industry. Click here to visit the Energy Prospectus Group website for more energy market and stock analysis.
“Silver is ready to respond to gold,” says Analyst Brien Lundin. In this episode, Brien shares mining stock picks, discusses what Trump's win means for gold and offers resource investing insights. He concludes by sharing about the New Orleans Investment Conference (November 20-23) and what the conference offers attendees. He is the editor of the Gold Newsletter and CEO of the New Orleans Investment Conference. New Orleans Investment Conference Link: https://neworleansconference.com/online-registration/ Brien's newsletter: https://goldnewsletter.com/ 0:00 Intro 0:40 Trump's win and Gold 4:08 Is the Fed Trapped? 6:32 "The West could use Bitcoin to Checkmate the East" 10:13 Strength of next gold bull market 12:06 Tax Loss Season 14:00 Senior gold companies' diversification into copper? 17:00 US big board listing 20:13 Gold and silver year-end prices 21:22 “Silver is ready to respond to gold” & stock picks 26:27 New Orleans Investment Conference Sign up for our free newsletter and receive interview transcripts, stock profiles and investment ideas: http://eepurl.com/cHxJ39 Mining Stock Education (MSE) offers informational content based on available data but it does not constitute investment, tax, or legal advice. It may not be appropriate for all situations or objectives. Readers and listeners should seek professional advice, make independent investigations and assessments before investing. MSE does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of its content and should not be solely relied upon for investment decisions. MSE and its owner may hold financial interests in the companies discussed and can trade such securities without notice. MSE is biased towards its advertising sponsors which make this platform possible. MSE is not liable for representations, warranties, or omissions in its content. By accessing MSE content, users agree that MSE and its affiliates bear no liability related to the information provided or the investment decisions you make. Full disclaimer: https://www.miningstockeducation.com/disclaimer/
Welcome to The KE Report Weekend Show. This weekend's show is packed with analysis on gold and gold stocks, interest rates, energy markets, small cap stocks and the major markets. All considering what potential policies Trump enacts while as President. This week we are attending the New Orleans Investment Conference. If you will be there please drop us a line - fleck@kereport.com and shad@kereport.com. If you can't make it but want us to sit down with any company exhibiting at the conference please email us. Click here to find out which companies and speakers will be in attendance. Segment 1 and 2 - Richard Postma, AKA Doc, joins us to analyze the precious metals correction, including the underperformance of mining stocks versus the metals, sentiment shifts to risk-on investments, Gold vs cryptocurrencies, specific PM stock opportunities and technical insight. Segment 3 and 4 - Mike Larson, Editor in Chief at MoneyShow, wraps up the Weekend Show discussing the market's reaction to the Trump presidency and the resulting 'Trump trade.' The discussion covers various asset classes and sectors including Bitcoin, small caps, financials, crude oil, and precious metals. We explore the implications of potential policy changes, particularly around tariffs, energy production, and taxes, and their impact on domestic versus multinational companies. Click here to find out about the upcoming MoneyShow conferences.
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to discuss the market's reactions to Donald Trump's election victory, focusing on the resource sector. Key topics include the short-term fluctuations in precious metal prices, the impact of the rising U.S. federal debt, and the future economic landscape under the Trump administration. We also talk about the potential benefits of reduced regulations on resource companies with assets in the US and the ongoing support for gold amidst financial uncertainties. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23.
Gold Market Insights, Dollar Debate, and Trump's Tax ProposalsGet $10 off your first month's subscription + free shipping at https://nutrafol.com when you use promo code GOLDRegister for the New Orleans Investment Conference: https://neworleansconference.com/schiff/Peter Schiff brings an in-depth analysis of recent market volatility, focusing on the enduring yet controversial performance of gold amidst economic uncertainty. He dissects Newmont Mining's significant stock drop despite strong earnings, critiques market reactions, and evaluates potential highs for gold stocks. Schiff scrutinizes Trump's tax proposals, illustrating their impracticality due to extensive government spending and misconceptions about tariffs. He offers perspectives on the US dollar's potential crash following a period of rally, emphasizing the global shift towards gold for stable international trade. Schiff also debates the benefits of a gold standard, insights into rising treasury yields, labor costs, and currency fluctuations. Additional topics include critiques of government policies such as the FTC's 'click-to-cancel' rule, and a call to prioritize free market principles for economic health.
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins me to analyze Newmont's earnings report, highlighting the growth in revenue and gold production alongside concerns about rising costs, and the market reaction. We also delve into opportunities within the silver sector amidst the recent price breakout. Additionally, we touch on the implications of changes in Mexican leadership for silver mining investments and provide insights based on historical market trends. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23.
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As real estate investors, it's easy to get caught up in the housing market … … but no asset is an island. Our investments swim in a larger economic sea, and precious metals can serve as a powerful barometer for what's happening in that ecosystem. With gold continuing its remarkable climb, what does it mean for investors, and how could it impact your investments? Today we're thrilled to welcome back Brien Lundin, the mastermind behind the Gold Newsletter and producer of the renowned New Orleans Investment Conference. We'll dive into the basics of investing in precious metals, exploring their role in a real estate investor's portfolio. Plus, we'll discuss how movements in metals affect the broader market—and what that could mean for real estate investors like you. So grab your headphones and get ready to mine some golden insights! And stick around as we take a trip to an exciting city in Alabama for our Market Spotlight. Visit our Special Reports Library under Resources at RealEstateGuysRadio.com.
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins me to discuss the current trends and future prospects of the gold market. Despite a slight decline since late September, gold continues in an uptrend with dips being generally shallow. Looking at the gold chart, Brien notes technical indicators like Bollinger Bands, which have historically signaled pauses and subsequent rallies within bull markets. He also addresses the relative resilience of gold amidst a rising U.S. dollar and interest rates, suggesting broader financial system worries might be driving the parallel increase in gold prices. We also discuss the performance of major and mid-tier gold miners, noting their financial successes and the potential shift towards increased M&A activities as they seek to maintain growth and appeal to generalist investors. On the silver front, Coeur Mining's acquisition of SilverCrest is highlighted, underscoring the industry's ongoing consolidation trend. Brien also touches upon the current exploration landscape, noting high-grade discoveries, and potential opportunities in existing resource-rich juniors. Looking ahead, we discuss what to expect from the 50th anniversary of the New Orleans Investment Conference from November 20th-23rd. Renowned speakers and industry experts are set to provide valuable insights, with a money-back guarantee that reinforces the conference's commitment to delivering substantial value to attendees. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23.
Gold has been one of the best performing assets in 2024 so far. It's up over 27% since the start of the year and recently hit a record high. And with the central banks of the worlds largest economies -- the US, China and the EU -- now all cutting interest rates, will that add further fuel to gold's breakout? For answers to all things gold, silver and the companies that mine them, we're fortunate to speak with Brien Lundin, CEO of Jefferson Financial, publisher of GoldNewsleter.com and producer of the excellent New Orleans Investment Conference. Brien thinks that, if this current gold bull cycle acts like previous ones in history, that should bring the price of gold eventually up to $6,000/oz (or higher) REGISTER FOR BRIEN'S CONFERENCE at https://neworleansconference.com/tm1 #goldprice #silverprice #preciousmetals --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thoughtful-money/support
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to delve into the precious metals markets, with gold now nearing $2,700, and silver over $32 an ounce. The conversation covers key points such as the increasing participation of Western investors, the performance of gold and silver stocks, and the stock picker's market for gold equities. Brien delves into the margins seen by gold producers and the lag in stock performance, as well as the competition from other sectors like crypto and AI. We also highlight the importance of mining companies focusing on solid fundamentals, growth strategies, and dividends to attract new investors. Additionally, we discuss the impact of mergers and acquisitions in the mining sector and the potential for development stage companies to benefit from the current market conditions. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23.
Tangible assets are important to consider in an inflationary environment because they tend to retain or increase in value, providing a stable hedge against the declining purchasing power of currency. For these reasons, gold is considered a long-term asset class. Brien Lundin (@brien_lundin), Editor of the Gold Newsletter and CEO of New Orleans Investment Conference, discusses the political perspectives surrounding gold ownership. He returns to the Futures Edge with Jim Iuorio and Bob Iaccino to discuss the role of central banks in gold accumulation, concerns about government seizure of gold, and the value of rare coins. The discussion also touches on the challenges facing the diamond market due to lab-grown alternatives, the gold-silver ratio, and the future of Bitcoin in relation to gold. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Conference Overview 02:54 The Significance of Gold in Investment 05:57 Political Perspectives on Gold 09:01 The Role of Central Banks and Gold 12:00 Gold's Safety and Government Seizure Concerns 15:06 The Value of Rare Coins 17:48 Diamonds vs. Lab-Grown Alternatives 20:59 Market Dynamics and Economic Insights 24:03 The Future of Bitcoin and Gold 26:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts This episode is in partnership with Hardcore Italians: https://www.hardcoreitalians.com/FUTURESEDGESHOWFINANCEUNFILTERED Discount Code: FUTURESEDGESHOWFINANCEUNFILTERED Twitter: https://twitter.com/bob_iaccino Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimiuorio LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-iaccino/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-iuorio/ Newsletter: https://substack.com/@moneymarketsmayhem Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@futuresedgepodcast?sub_confirmation=1
"The Fed will be forced to pivot, and when they do, it's going to send gold soaring even higher,” says Brien Lundin, editor of Gold Newsletter and CEO of the New Orleans Investment Conference. Speaking with Daniela Cambone, Lundin explained that the Fed is cornered, with no choice but to cut rates to support the weakening economy. Questions on Protecting Your Wealth with Gold & Silver? Schedule a Strategy Call Here ➡️ https://calendly.com/itmtrading/podcast or Call 866-349-3310
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to share his insights on how the increase in North American investor interest in gold is filtering into gold stocks. We also look at the silver and copper markets as well as the underlying equities. We begin with the shift in interest of North American investors towards gold ETFs like GLD is potentially influencing the gold stock market, mostly for actual mining companies. Brien breaks down the current bull market phase driven by central bank buying and Chinese domestic investments, and discusses the impact of the anticipated Fed pivot on gold and other risk assets. We also explore the expanding margins and cash flows of major and mid-tier producers, the potential boom in the gold equities market, and the future of silver and copper investments amidst varying economic conditions. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23.
Investing in Bizarro World Episodes: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIAfIjKxr02sAztzlJNy1ug5bDvTVZkME&si=w2d_EF-B5jMo1dYD Subscribe to Investing In Bizarro World: @bizarroworld “We're proud technocrats.”That's how Philly Fed President Patrick Harker referred to the Federal Reserve during an interview from the wealthy enclave of Jackson Hole last week. Our disdain for the Fed is no secret. We think it's an unelected body that wields too much power while serving a select few and making wealth inequality worse. By definition, a technocrat is part of the “elite”. We don't consider ourselves part of the elite and we don't work for them. We work for ourselves, for our families, and for you. Nonetheless, we can't bend reality to our worldview. So we acknowledge it and profit in spite of it to fund the lives that we want to lead. That's where the discussion in the 283rd episode of Investing in Bizarro World begins. It continues with a look at what rate cuts mean for the market and commodities in the context of an economic slowdown amid an ongoing supercycle. We have been positioning in rate-sensitive plays like gold, utilities, and real estate. And it's been paying off. As one listener said last week: “Congratulations Gerardo. Some of your plays are on fire. Much appreciated.”On fire, indeed. Gerardo's top gold pick has now tripled in the past six months! (You can see why here.) https://bit.ly/topgoldpickAfter that, we spend some time discussing the lithium market in light of Patriot Battery Metals releasing the first preliminary economic assessment on the Shaakichiuwaanaan Project. It showed a project with a net present value of US$2.2 billion that could eventually become the fourth-largest lithium mine in the world. Thanks to our use of private placements, we first got ourselves and readers into it when it was 16-cents and nobody had a clue what it was. It has changed many lives since, and will change many more as it gets built. More about private placements here: https://digestpublishing.com/v/PPIWEB1/Then we look at the Democratic Convention and some of the policy ideas from Kamala Harris, including taxing unrealized gains. Needless to say, we aren't fans of that, and we urge a focus on decreasing spending rather than increasing tax revenue. But whether it's Ms. Harris or Mr. Trump who wins this fall, your tax bill is destined to rise in the long-term. We talk about why that is so dangerous for the upper-middle class and those raising kids. And the same reason your taxes are going to rise is the same reason that gold is now breaching all-time highs north of $2,500 per ounce. Mr. Dines' Goldbug! book that I mentioned last week foresaw much of this. Check that book out here. https://digestpublishing.com/order/DPCDINESBOOK-7499/It's all in the 283rd episode of Investing in Bizarro World. 0:00 Intro7:25 Great Disdain for the Fed14:12 Commodity Outlook: Gold, Silver, Copper, Uranium17:05 Long-term Lithium & Patriot's PEA28:16 A Look at Potential Harris PoliciesThe World's Greatest Investment Event: 2024 New Orleans Investment Conference https://neworleansconference.com/hodge/Visit our website Daily Profit Cycle for more content like this and more! https://dailyprofitcycle.com/
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to share his insights on the gold market. We highlight strong performance in gold, recent inflows into GLD, and the potential for increased Western investment. Brien explains how the current gold bull market, driven by both central bank and Chinese investors, could signal a historic moment with both Eastern and Western investors buying gold simultaneously. The conversation also covers the impact of M&A in the industry. The stocks are still waiting for the generalist investor to enter the space which would create a revaluation across the sector and help the stocks close the valuation gap to gold. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23.
Brien Lundin, Editor of The Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins me to discuss gold's new all time high and the opportunity he sees in the optionally gold stocks. We explore the concept of optionality plays - investments in companies with significant gold resources that have now become economically viable due to the higher gold prices. Brien provides insights on what makes certain projects attractive, such as having resources above 2-5 million ounces and internal rates of return ("IRR") exceeding 25%. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23.
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference, joins us to review the fundamental and technical setup in the gold and what news and market factors are moving the resource stocks in gold, silver, copper, and uranium. We start off looking at the softer US economic data and moderating inflation that is giving market participants in many sectors more confidence that the Fed will begin cutting rates in the next few months. Brien points to the recent breakout to new highs coming technically as the bollinger bands were tightening on the charts, that hs had written to his subscribers about in advance. The fundamentals for higher gold prices are in place with the backdrop of the weaker US economic data, strong buying from central banks, the significant role of Eastern demand, particularly from China, and finally more interest in precious metals from Western investors lately. With regards to the resource stocks Brien reiterates that any pullbacks in the metals and weakness like we are seeing this week, is a buying opportunity as the larger bull market trends are solidly in place. We discuss the positive margin expansion we should be seeing in gold and silver producers as they report Q2 earnings over the next month. He points to companies where he likes the current risk/reward set up in companies like Heliostar Metals (TSXV: HSTR) (OTCQX: HSTXF), Banyan Gold (TSXV: BYN) (OTCQB: BYAGF), Vizsla Silver (TSXV: VZLA) (NYSE: VZLA), and a wider swath of the silver stocks. With uranium stocks, he is bullish on the demand drivers for growing nuclear power demand, and thinks the recent weakness provides a good place for positioning for the longer-term thesis. Copper has corrected, but Brien believes the price will double in the next 3 years, but that investors need to be more selective with juniors, as they really need a larger strategic partnership with senior producers to advance the expensive drilling and long timelines, and points to Filo Corp. (TSX: FIL) (OTCQX: FLMMF) as a unique story because the Lundin family was able to move it forward internally using their own capital and mining expertise. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23. Click here to visit the Gold Newsletter website to learn more about Brien's letter.
Learn how garages and parking areas add value to property. Find out how to earn more rent for your garage space. Adding a garage to a rental doesn't fetch much more rent income. But you will rent your place faster and tenants stay longer. To get more rent for a detached garage, rent it to an off-site tenant. The future of parking and garages is positioned to be shaken by autonomous cars. Fewer people will need to own or park cars. Meet me in-person at the next New Orleans Investment Conference. It's November 20th - 23rd, 2024. Register here. Brien Lundin joins us. He is the host of the world's longest-running investment conference, the New Orleans Investment Conference. He's also editor of Gold Newsletter. He & I discuss inflation, interest rates, real estate, and gold. Gold is up 20%+ annually. This is because foreign nations, like China, are beginning to prefer to own gold rather than US debt. There's a case for interest rates to go higher, another case for them to go lower. Brien tells us why he believes the gold price will keep rising. Increasingly, asset values are positively correlated—real estate, stocks, gold, crypto, oil, and even collectibles. Personally, though I don't see evidence that gold builds wealth, history shows that it's a good place to store wealth. Meet me in-person at the next New Orleans Investment Conference. It's November 20th - 23rd, 2024. Register here. Resources mentioned: Meet me in-person at the next New Orleans Investment Conference. It's November 20th - 23rd, 2024. Register here. For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text FAMILY to 66866 For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review” GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREmarketplace.com/Coach Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold (00:00:01) - Welcome to GRE! I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Learn about garage real estate, how garages and parking add value to your property, and how to get more rent for the garage. Then we go from micro to macro. As we talk about the enduring value of a real asset that's minted, not printed, and another chance to meet me in person today and Get Rich Education. Robert Syslo (00:00:27) - Since 2014, the powerful get Rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate, investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show host Keith Weinhold, who writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad Advisors and delivers a new show every week. Since 2014, there's been millions of listeners downloads and 188 world nations. He has A-list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get Rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener. Robert Syslo (00:01:01) - Phone apps build wealth on the go with the get Rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get Rich education podcast or visit get Rich education.com. Keith Weinhold (00:01:29) - Welcome to GRE! From Saint Augustine, Florida, to Saint Paul, Minnesota, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to get Rich education as we cover a component of property that's a little talked about, garages and we're a real estate investing show. You learn about ways to optimize the rent income that a garage can produce for you, too. Now, if the home that you currently live in has a garage, it could be the entrance to the home that you use even more often than your own front door. That's how important and useful it's become. And understand that garages on homes, they didn't even exist until about 100 years ago, because that's when cars began to become popular. The emergence of the garage in American real estate is one reason for the downfall of the big front porch. You rarely see big porches on modern homes. Keith Weinhold (00:02:26) - Interestingly, some of America's most successful companies began in garages, places where you have workbenches and can tinker around with things. Google and Nike were launched in garages, and it's also where people store lots of things, sometimes so many things that they can't even get their car in there anymore. In fact, the word garage comes from the French garage. Spell that g a r e r meaning to store. But yeah, when cars became more popular in the 1920s and 1930s, that's when you begin to see garages. And then as cars got larger, garages got larger. And by the 1960s, as families began to own not just one car but 2 or 3 cars, garages became larger again, and a three car garage is pretty common today in a single family home, though it's rarely that big in a property that you're going to rent out. Now, if you've got a single family home and it does not have a garage and you want to make a garage addition. Well, you can only expect to recoup 65 to 80% of what you've spent. Keith Weinhold (00:03:40) - So it is a money loser. Then it really doesn't make sense to add one to a rental, perhaps only your primary residence, since you get the benefit of using it yourself that way. And if you add a garage to a rental, you know you just really can't get that much more in rent for it. It's usually not worth it, although the financials can look better for a carport addition instead. Now, if you've got a rental with the garage rather than without one, it actually can help you get your place rented out faster. But a tenants really not going to pay you even as much as 10% more in overall rent in most every case. Yet see, what happens is that a tenant, they tend to fill up the garage with stuff, and therefore they tend to stay longer than if there were no garage. A garage is one reason that single family rentals see longer tenant durations then apartments. Now, if your property though, if it's in a built up area and there's little on street parking, oh well then the addition of a garage that could have more of an impact on the value of your property than it would out in the suburbs. Keith Weinhold (00:04:53) - The garage does not count toward the square footage of a property because that's considered unfinished space. And your prospective tenant? They might not know that fact about the square footage. So that's something for you to keep in mind when you're advertising a home with a garage for rent. Now, older houses, they're more likely to have a detached garage is its own separate standalone structure that's built near the house. But you would have to walk outdoors in order to get from the house to the detached garage. In fact, the home that I grew up in and that my parents still live in in Pennsylvania has a detached garage. Their home was built around the year 1915, so more than 100 years ago, and my parent's garage also didn't have an automatic garage door opener for most of my life. I remember the big yank up that you'd have to make on the heavy door. So when my mom was about to back out of the garage when she was going to take me somewhere, what I would do is I would stand outdoors until she backed out so that I could open and then close the door by hand and then get in the car. Keith Weinhold (00:06:06) - Gotta get those legs under it and enjoy one deep squat there, Well, one reason that old houses have garages often detached from the rest of the home is for risk of gasoline explosion. That's because back 100 years ago, gas was stored in the garage because gas stations were yet to be invented. So you've got this trail of detached garages left behind in older neighborhoods, and some people still prefer a detached garage. Now there's a way for you to get more rent income if you're renting out a single family home with a detached garage, and this isn't always going to be feasible based on how the property's set up. But the way to do it is for you to get an off site tenant to rent your garage. Oftentimes, the renter of your single family home, you know, they just don't have as high of an income as someone does that lives in an upper crust neighborhood that might have a lot of toys to store their, be it a boat or an antique car, or even an RV, perhaps. Keith Weinhold (00:07:13) - Well, that off site renter in the better neighborhood, you know they're going to pay you to store their cars or their other stuff in your detached garage In that case, your rental home and garage would have two separate tenants, and you will enjoy more overall rent income than if one tenant was renting both the home and the detached garage. So what you really want to learn is you do your research though, is what laws cover the renting of a garage or a storage space because they typically fall outside the jurisdiction of landlord and tenant laws. But you need to verify that depending on your state or your area. Sometimes running a garage is the equivalent of renting a warehouse space, and the rules can be different when it comes to payment issues or other problems. And when you realize that some garages can even have dirt floors, you can see how different it is than a living space. Now, even if you're thinking about renting your garage to an offsite tenant. Most of the time making garage upgrades, it's just really not worth it. Keith Weinhold (00:08:19) - But note that I said most of the time. On the other hand, if you can make it marketable, maybe you need to do something smaller, like add an automatic garage door opener if it doesn't have one, and then you'll have to run the numbers to see if that is worth it. Now, one mistake that I made out of property, it wasn't that first ever seminal fourplex that I owned, but the second fourplex that I owned there in that building, each tenant had a small, simple one car attached garage, and then as each four plex unit went vacant, I went in and painted the inside the walls and ceiling of all four garages with a fresh coat of paint, and I would learn later that was not a good use of my time. It didn't help me get any more in rent. No tenant is really even going to stay longer for fresh garage paint, but frankly, I'm just not a handyman. I don't know how to fix anything. So one of the few ways that I knew how to add value, I thought was rolling a paintbrush over the inside of garage walls like I know how to paint and not much else replacing a faucet. Keith Weinhold (00:09:29) - Whoa, that right there. We're getting into, like, intimidating territory. Okay for me. In any case, duplexes in fourplex, they can often have garages, especially newer ones. And I think I mentioned to you here on the show before that I once owned an eight plex. It was a little quirky. It had a small single attached garage that was kind of on the end of the building. So eight units and just a one car garage. And actually this is a good example because those tenants, they paid about $1,500 for their unit, so none of them could really swing it. None of them could afford to pay an extra $400 for the garage. So again, the way to solve that is rent to a more affluent off site tenant. That's what I did. And I got 400 bucks. Now, understand something. When you're driving a neighborhood or you're looking on Google Maps, at times it can look like a home has a two car garage because you're only looking at the widths of the garage door. Keith Weinhold (00:10:29) - But that can really be a three car garage because on one side, the garage bay goes two cars deep, so you can't always tell how many cars a garage can hold just by looking at the width of the garage door. One reason that developers in Hoa's actually like garages that are too deep is that way. The driveway is more narrow. When driveways are more narrow, that means there's less asphalt and more green space in neighborhoods. Now, in some places, it doesn't matter too much if the garage is full of stuff and you have to park in the driveway, but in a cold, snowy place, it really helps to park cars inside the garage. So garages are typically more valuable to residents in areas that have real winters. In an apartment building, it can help to have assigned spaces for tenants. When I bought apartments, I've always loved it to my property manager to figure out the space assignments and rental property. Upgrading and resurfacing parking areas is another money loser. Now, we don't want to be slumlords, but the truth is repaving and re striping a parking lot that might look nice. Keith Weinhold (00:11:44) - You might do that. but the reality is that it will get you practically zero extra rent. Not a good ROI. Well, that's a take on garage's past and present. What about the future of garages and parking areas when it comes to the future? And this harkens back to episode 13 of this show. Yes, that's when I discussed driverless cars, also known as autonomous cars. Back in January of 2015, nine and a half years ago. Well, when autonomous cars become popular, which many expect will still happen, it's likely that fewer people are going to own cars at all. They will just have a car subscription. The autonomous car will pick you up and drop you off, and more people will convert their garages into living space like another bedroom. If that does indeed eventually happen. But autonomous car adoption has hit roadblocks since episode 13 of this show back in 2015, and that's generally because autonomous cars keep having accidents. Although Waymo is perhaps the one company that's made more headway lately, you're seeing their autonomous taxis in use in some cities right now. Keith Weinhold (00:13:03) - Currently, a car spends 95% of its life being parked, but garages, parking lots, and parking garages are all poised to be less useful when fewer people own a car. Instead, these autonomous cars are just going to drop you off, pick you up, and then constantly stay moving. Stay out on the road rather than park at all. EVs are a factor here to electric vehicles. They can be thousands of pounds heavier than the average gas powered vehicle, and experts out there are warning that the extra weight from EVs that could cause older parking garages to collapse unless steps are taken to buttress those structures. I mean, that's a problem. If geotechnical and structural engineers didn't design EVs on older parking garages decades and decades ago parking lots, they have definitely fallen out of favor among some, but they are still building lots of them. Critics say that to have to build minimum parking spaces on new projects, well, that hinders new housing construction, and also encourages people to drive rather than take public transit parking lot. Keith Weinhold (00:14:18) - Critics. They also argue that parking lots and garages, they fill up precious urban real estate with these sort of soulless, concrete eyesores, making cities more sprawling and less convenient. And you tend to see this more in cities west of the Mississippi River. In the east, you have more cities on gridded street patterns that are more dense because they were laid out and developed before cars took over and sprawled so many cities, but with as many changes that autonomous vehicles could bring to the parking world and make things like car ownership less important and car parking less important, I sure would ask a lot of questions before I invested in any sort of parking related real estate. Today we've been talking about real estate in the micro so far today. 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He's the executive editor of Gold Newsletter, and you might know him as host of America's longest running investment conference, the famed New Orleans Investment Conference. Hey, we haven't shedded in a minute. Welcome in Brien Lundin. Brien Lundin (00:17:48) - Right? To be able to keep it has been a while too long. Keith Weinhold (00:17:51) - That's right. And now you and I each span the real asset world. I'm a real estate guy. You spend a lot of your work in teaching over there on the gold side. And we both intersect with the general economy. And, you know, Brian, I think of the general economy is having a number of abnormalities. Keith Weinhold (00:18:11) - Is it always does, but actually many normality to I mean, I've commented that there's actually relative normalcy in the fed funds rate and even mortgage rate levels. If you look at it historically, also home price appreciation rates, in rent appreciation rates, they're all close to historic norms, although the aberrations are probably more interesting to talk about. What are your thoughts on the economy's general direction? Brien Lundin (00:18:37) - Yeah, you know, it really is weird. We think about today's interest rates and how high they are. And throughout human history, the natural level of interest rates have hovered around 6%. That's kind of what it's always been for thousands of years. So what we went through over the last 16 years or so was a really abnormal period, and even going back a decade or so before that. So yeah, it looks seems like interest rates are at normal levels. What is at abnormal levels, however, is the level of debt that we have today. And and that's been created after over four decades of ever easier money, ever since Volcker killed off inflation in the 1970s and started lowering rates, we see that whenever there was a recession, the Federal Reserve had the same prescription every time it lowered interest rates, and then it would try to raise them back, but could never get past the midpoint of the previous range before another recession would come back, or the markets would throw some kind of a fit in. Brien Lundin (00:19:40) - The fed would then start easing again. And if you look over time, if you plot or draw a line at the bottom of every one of those interest cutting cycles, see that those bottoms of the cycles get progressively lower and lower. Till 2008, they hit zero. And then they tried to normalize it got up to 2.5% on the Fed's funds fund rate, and then had to go right back to zero at Covid. So the lesson to me is that things might seem normal if you look at the grand sweep of history, but they're anything but normal right now, and the debt loads that we have are so high they preclude anything resembling a normal interest rate. And in fact, my contention is that interest rates have to be below the rate of inflation. In other words, the currency has to depreciate at a faster rate than you're paying interest on these debts, or the whole house of cards collapses. So that's actually, while not good for the fiscal health of the US or other developed economies, it's actually good for the kind of tangible assets, real assets we are talking about real estate, gold, silver, monetary metals, even commodities. Brien Lundin (00:20:52) - And, you know, everything across the board as far as tangible assets. Keith Weinhold (00:20:56) - Yeah, we look at the long term history of interest rates 5 to 6% if If you go back hundreds of years or even thousands of years is a historic norm. The fed funds rate is now at about 5.3%. But yeah, I think what you're talking about is we seem to have a decreasing tolerance for what are really normal rates. Nothing abnormal about the rate. All that was abnormal was the rate of increase. And you know, one thing that I think about with the economy, Brian, that maybe people don't talk about enough. Is this labor shortage that we have? I mean, it is difficult to do get anyone to do my landscaping. Last year I stayed in a hotel where when I checked in, there was no human being at the check in desk. It was automated checking. Then last month, I stayed at a hotel where there was a human at the front desk, but they told me that there was not going to be any housekeeping during my state. Keith Weinhold (00:21:46) - So the reason that I bring this up is that a chronic labor shortage that spells entrenched upward pressure on inflation, because you have to offer higher wages to lure in workers and higher wages paid mean higher consumer prices, higher rents, more inflation and persistently high rates to combat that. Brien Lundin (00:22:07) - Yeah, absolutely. And you bring up a whole nother factor that very few people consider as demographics. You know, the fertility rate in the US is below the replacement rate. It's about 1.7 now, and it would have to be like 2.1. And as they say, demographics is destiny. We're not the only ones by any means. Japan went over the demographic cliff long ago. We're following all the other developed nations are as well. And in 20 or 30 years the global population will be falling. That brings about a lot of other pressures and real estate. Obviously you have, you know, the baby boomers are going to be downsizing if they can find something to move into. Besides a retirement home, had a decent mortgage rate. Brien Lundin (00:22:50) - You know, we have so much overhang in real estate that's sitting out there and locked up by the current interest rate. So yeah, it's an interesting dynamic we're in right now. And personally I think it's all just a result of the Federal Reserve and all these other monetary mavens whose PhDs I want to pull all these levers on the economy. And they have unintended consequences in every one of the policies that they undertake. And we're in one right now. Keith Weinhold (00:23:20) - We've got both inflation and a scarce supply of property that just keeps floating property values higher despite higher mortgage rates. And one place that the high inflation is often reflected is in the price of gold. Gold is up more than 20% year over year. And one thing I want to ask you about here, with regard to gold and the fact that we have this debt that you brought up earlier, Brian, is a real problem. When we look outside the US, the world's biggest economy is by far China. China has been dumping US treasuries, meaning basically that they're no longer buying our US IOUs so they no longer want our debt. Keith Weinhold (00:23:59) - And instead, China and other nations are increasingly parking it in gold. Now, is that one of the reasons that gold has surged? Brien Lundin (00:24:07) - Yeah, it is the primary reason. Or, you know, one of the primary factors why gold has surged this year in particular. And it's a weird mix of buying. This year. We saw the gold price start taking off like the 1st of March. And it was for the first six weeks or so. It was literally a relentless rise, not a down day. Setting new price records every day. And it took us a while to try and figure out or to figure out where the buying was coming from. And as it turns out, it was the result of continued buying by central banks renewed buying to an even greater degree by the people's Bank of China, and also some domestic demand from China. And that's something we had never seen before. We'd never seen Chinese investors and savers buying gold on the way up in a price trend. They usually bought on a price downtrend trying to get a bargain, but now they were following the price up. Brien Lundin (00:25:06) - So that contributed to everything and the factor that we had expected that did not come about in the first half of the year was a fed pivot. You know, if you look back in December, yeah, the markets are pricing in 5 or 6 fed rate cuts in 2024. And that kept getting postponed. And that was expected. I expected in most of the other analysts expected the beginning of fed rate cuts to really drive the price up higher, but it kept getting postponed. That big factor is still ahead of us. I think the markets are going to start pricing that in in a couple of months. And so what all that central bank buying and Chinese buying is done is while we were waiting for the fed to pivot in that big factor, it went ahead and added $300 to the gold price and got us into a new trading range so that when the fed pivot does hit, we're lifting off from a much higher level. So it's a good time, I think, to be an investor in gold and related assets. Brien Lundin (00:26:07) - I think it's also a good time to be involved in real estate and a lot of other tangible and real assets, as. Keith Weinhold (00:26:13) - Well as real estate investors we are interested in that interest rate direction. And, you know, if the US is continually finding themselves in a position where they're wondering, well, hey, if not China and others will, then who in the heck is going to buy our debt? And now you? I think the listener you can ask yourself in the same way, if you're trying to get your friends to give you a loan, How do you entice your friends to give you a loan? You would offer them a higher interest rate in order for them to give you a loan. So with that in mind, Brian, is that what the US has to do in order to entice foreign bondholders in the same way, meaning then debt rates would tend to be held high? Brien Lundin (00:27:01) - Very interesting point there, Keith, because getting back what I was saying, how these PhD economists are pulling all the levers on the economy, the lever they're about to pull is to start lowering rates again, because they recognize these debt loads, they recognize the possibility of a recession, and that if there is a recession and tax receipts fall, then the debt load is going to accelerate even further. Brien Lundin (00:27:26) - So they feel that policy right now is very restrictive. And they're going to start lowering rates at some point. They have to. But the debt loads being what they are, however you have on the other hand, the bondholders are, which you would hope would be the buyers of the Treasury securities, and they will look and see the potential economic slowdowns. They had the potential for higher inflation and start demanding higher returns on their yields. So there is a tension there. We saw that develop last October, November timeframe and a few months ago when we saw Treasury yields rise at the same time that the dollar index rose versus other currencies and gold was rising, which was a weird kind of strange bedfellows there that typically gold does not rise when interest rates are rising and the dollar is strengthening. But they were all going up together, and that happened a bit last fall as well. To my mind, that is a reflection of safe haven buying. You know, typically we think Treasury yields fall when they're safe haven buying because everybody's going into treasuries. Brien Lundin (00:28:36) - To me that was reflective of safe haven buying because the markets were really concerned about the fiscal future for the US and other developed countries. So they were going to the safety of the dollar, the safety of gold and demanding higher yields on treasuries. That would be more commensurate with the kind of inflation rate that they saw ahead. But it's been a weird mix of buying a weird mix of economic developments, and I think it all argues toward big money getting more and more into gold because of the uncertainty that lies ahead, and the really the extraordinary nature of the current economic situation to the world we find ourselves in now. Keith Weinhold (00:29:21) - I did not realize that there is less sensitivity to higher gold prices until I just learned that from you a few minutes ago. So that's really interesting about potential momentum in the future price of gold. And we talk about the future price of gold. We think of that through a supply and demand lens, much like we think about what's moving real estate prices today. Have we hit peak gold, meaning that there's less and less of it to pull out of the ground? Brien Lundin (00:29:49) - All of the trends in that respect actually favor gold and that we have reached peak gold production as around 32,300 tonnes a year. Brien Lundin (00:30:00) - Interestingly, a third of that level is being purchased now by China between the people's Bank of China and Chinese citizens. So a good bit of that is taken off. But I'm not a big proponent for the validity or the impact of supply and demand for gold, because it is monetary demand that really drives the price of gold. It has no utility, virtually no utility and industry. It is purely a monetary metal. So when people are concerned about the future purchasing power of the currency, they buy gold and they drive the price up, and that buying on the margin really sets the price of gold. And I think we're about to enter one of those periods where gold really plays catch up for long sweeps of time. You'll see the gold price doesn't do much until something happens. Things get bad to a certain degree where people really start to worry about their purchasing power, and then gold makes a huge catch up move. Really, in the early stages of that kind of a catch up ketchup move, I believe. Brien Lundin (00:31:06) - I think we're entering a period that would be akin to the 1970s and the 2000, where the price of gold has historically gone up anywhere between five and a half and eight and a half times over during these kinds of secular bull markets. And I think we're in one of those periods right now. Keith Weinhold (00:31:25) - Five and a half to eight x. Brien Lundin (00:31:27) - Yeah. If you look at the fact that there's only been three bull markets in gold since 1971, when it actually became, you know, an investable asset or commodity and not money. So 1970 to 75 was a bull market of 76 to 1980 with a bull market. And really, 2000 to 2011 was another bull market run. And each of those instances, each of those three bull markets, gold went up from 25.6 to 8.2 times from the lows. And this market we're in now, the low is about $1,040. So if the price of gold goes up trading 5.6 and 8.2 times, you're talking about 6 to $8000 gold price at the end of this cycle, wherever and whenever that takes us. Brien Lundin (00:32:17) - And of course, you know, we're up around 2300 and change right now. So that's a good move ahead. Lots of potential. And it's not just where the price of gold goes, but all the associated assets worth it, like mining stocks and the like are going to do, I think, very well over the next few years. Keith Weinhold (00:32:36) - Yeah. People know gold is the classic inflation hedge. But to your point, it has a lot to do with catching a wave. If you think the real long term diminished purchasing power of the dollar is 3 or 4% over time. Well, you don't see gold go up gradually at 3 or 4% per year for several years. You tend to see it do little or nothing, and then it has this big catch up phase, like those periods of time that you talked about. When we talk about physically holding on to gold, you know, it's cool. It's one of those type of investments where if you do hold it yourself, there's no login or password to access your goal that is physical, intangible. Keith Weinhold (00:33:10) - And you know, Brad, one thing that a lot of gold people often talk about is a positive attribute to holding gold is that it has zero counterparty risk when it's yours. No one can take it from you. But does it really have no counterparty risk? Because I think about if a person wants to hold physical gold, well, if they outsource it to a third party vault or a bank safe deposit box, then the counterparty risk is there. But if they hold it onto themselves and store it in their own home, which I don't know if that's a good idea, but if they choose to do so, well then the counterparty risk is the thief. So I think gold is a great way to store wealth, but is there really zero counterparty risk associated with gold? Brien Lundin (00:33:48) - Well, from that standpoint, there's never a zero risk. There's never a zero risk. When you step out of your door in the morning, either, you know, there's always some risk. You can mitigate the risk. And it reminds me of of what I tell people when they're really new to the sector is there are two reasons to buy gold. Brien Lundin (00:34:04) - One is as insurance and one is as an investment. And insurance is what you need to worry about right away because you're insuring against something you know is going to happen. If you feel like 3 to 5 years, the dollar's purchasing power, it's going to be much less than it is today. I think we can all agree in most likely is then by buying gold today, you lock in today's value of the dollar because gold will make that up, and perhaps even more so, it will protect you against that depreciation. So you can ensure your wealth by holding some physical metals. And I think that's the most important thing you can do, at least initially, is get silver and gold. Now, as far as storing it, a lot of people can store enough gold in their house to gain a good bit of insurance against whatever their wealth is. And by that, you know you will have to invest in a safe. Don't tell anybody about where it is and a good alarm system. And if you haven't and a location where you have a good police force, then you're talking about 20 minutes that somebody's going to get in your home before the police come and knocking, and hopefully they can't find the safe, much less get into it in that amount of time so you can do it in your house to some degree. Brien Lundin (00:35:16) - You can store it elsewhere, but there are important considerations there. They're very respected storage facilities and the like. You don't want to store it in a bank because one of the things you're insuring against is a bank holiday, thanks to like you to store it there either, but you can find respected institutions to store it. I recommend people don't put all the eggs in one basket and store it with a number of institutions, or as many as they can practically do. But yeah, it is important to own the metals, you know. Otherwise you're going to lose from here. On the day that you decide not to buy gold and silver to protect your wealth from that day on, you're accepting a rate of purchasing power depreciation that we know is considerably more than what the government says it is, and is historically high to begin with. Keith Weinhold (00:36:09) - I generally think it's a good idea to own at least a little gold if you have trepidation about buying gold. Think of it this way in a way you're not buying gold, You're transferring some of your prosperity over into gold, which has had lasting value for millennia, across cultures and across generations. Keith Weinhold (00:36:28) - And for some reason, I think a lot of people my age and younger that they don't own any gold. I would imagine that 90% plus of people, I think the statistics are out there. 97% of Americans don't own any gold. And maybe you feel like you don't understand gold and you don't want to own what you don't understand. But you could purchase this a 10th of an ounce of gold for under $300. And you know, by buying just a little bit, you begin to get a vested interest in this stuff. So with that in mind, Brian, how much do you think one should allocate and in what form should they make their purchase? Brien Lundin (00:37:02) - It's interesting. There have been studies for many years showing that the highest risk adjusted return you can get in a diversified portfolio with about 5% of your wealth, or your investing portfolio allocated to go to heaven. Those same studies done that are indicating more like 10% or more. It's to the point that you sleep well at night, whatever makes you comfortable. Brien Lundin (00:37:27) - But you know all of those studies back test it and they look back and see how gold and a portfolio meshes with the six, the classic 6040 mix of stocks and bonds etc.. But what we've seen over the last 12, 14 years is that post the 2008 great financial crisis is that all of these asset classes have become more and more positively correlated because everything's dependent on the Federal Reserve and monetary policy. So all of the correlations have started to trend toward one, where they all rise and fall together in unison. Because everything, again, is just depends on monetary policy and the flow of liquidity from the Federal Reserve and other central banks. So that fact alone argues for even a greater holding in gold, because all of that portends greater and greater inflation, greater monetary accommodation, and the kind of thing that gold insures against. So the way to look at gold as insurance is not quite like home insurance. You know, you buy home insurance, you pay the premium every year in case your house catches on fire. Brien Lundin (00:38:38) - But you really don't expect your house to catch on fire. With gold. You're buying insurance. You're paying the premium, perhaps just once, and you're insuring against something that you know is going to happen, that the purchasing power of your dollars are going to depreciate. So if you have a significant cash balance in accounts, you might as well put it into precious metals and lock in the current rate before it gets the purchasing power of the dollar depreciates even further. Keith Weinhold (00:39:06) - That is a good point with gold as money insurance from the standpoint that with your homeowner's insurance and your landlord's insurance policy, you need to pay a premium annually. You potentially only need to pay that once upfront when you purchase your gold, and there's typically a spot price differential to overcome. Well, Brian, you are the host of America's longest running investment conference, which is founded on championing American's right to own gold. The New Orleans Investment Conference. It really feels like there is a touch of prestige when you're there. I can speak to that personally because I've attended it at least three times in the past. Keith Weinhold (00:39:47) - It's coming up in November. I hope to attend again this year. You've got some illustrious speakers there. Tell us about this year's New Orleans Investment Conference. Brien Lundin (00:39:58) - Yeah, it is our 50th anniversary. You know, I think it's the oldest investment conference in the world today and longest running. And we do have that legacy, that prestige of being somewhat gold oriented. We're actually covering a good bit more real estate lately, but we really cover a lot of the macro picture macroeconomics. We have some of the leading thinkers come to our vet every year and a great audience as well. Very highly qualified, very successful investors. This year is up 50th. So we have another wonderful roster of speakers. We have Jim Grant coming, George Gammon, James Lavish, Danielle DiMartino Booth, Britt Johnson, Abby Gilbert, Adam Taggart, the list goes on and on. Rick Rule, Peter Boockvar, dozens and dozens of top minds. And, you know, we kind of alluded to it in this talk, but these are really strange and interesting and dangerous, extraordinary times that we're living through right now. Brien Lundin (00:41:02) - And it is amazing to me, having been in the business for 9 to 40 years now, seeing these kinds of periods come and go. And it seems that when they do happen, we get this kind of underground media that arises, and people who really bring in losses come to the fore to comment on what's going on and provide really valuable insights. And after all the years I've been in this business, I know who really contributes value, who the best thinkers are, and I'm getting them all to come to New Orleans. As I have to say, I'm a big fan of all of our speakers. I think they are absolutely extraordinary, and we are so confident that you will find our event to be worth many times the cost of attending, that we have a money back guarantee. If you don't think it does, if you don't think it's worth many times what you paid for, we'll give you registration feedback. So it's very few events that can offer a guarantee like that. And I think you would agree with me that you have to be there to really experience it. Brien Lundin (00:42:07) - And it really is just an extraordinary experience. Keith Weinhold (00:42:11) - Yeah, I can't imagine anyone not getting a multiple on their investment with attending the conference. You know, one thing that you do really well there at the conference, Brian, besides just listening to all those speakers that you just mentioned, you also have panel format discussions where sometimes you can learn more when you're listening to a conversation than you can when you're listening to a presentation. You have both choices there. Then if you prefer you want to break, you can go across the hallway to where the exhibit hall is and do some learning and meeting people over there. And then you also have these breakout sessions where you go upstairs into small rooms and learn from presenters in just the niche that you think most interests you or that you want to learn more about. So there's really good variety there. Brien Lundin (00:42:54) - Yeah, it's kind of a time tested format. It's different than most conferences you'll find out there, but it's worked well for us for 49 years, and our attendees seem to appreciate the unique format that we have and the ability to learn. Brien Lundin (00:43:09) - And it really is information almost overload. There's so much of value from these speakers. If you are intellectually curious, if you are a serious investor, if you enjoy an intellectually stimulating environment in a destination location, this is really the place for you. And you know, I can go on over and over again for as long as we have time for and more to say talking about it. But the best advertising we do are people who word of mouth from people who have come. And I would encourage anyone who is considering coming to the New Orleans Investment Conference. Number one, this is our 50th anniversary. It's going to be a very special year. But number two, find somebody who's been before. Talk to them about it. And I think you'll get excited about attending this year. Keith Weinhold (00:43:56) - Each year it is at an excellent location. It's at the New Orleans, Riverside Hilton and Bryan Terrace, those November dates for the event and then how one can attend. Brien Lundin (00:44:07) - Yeah, it's November 20th to 23rd this year, so it's the week before us Thanksgiving week. Brien Lundin (00:44:14) - So it's it doesn't interfere with that holiday. It's kind of a good little slot there. And people can learn more by going to one New Orleans conference.com. Very simply New Orleans conference.com. Keith Weinhold (00:44:29) - All right. It's been great catching up on the state of the economy, real estate inflation, interest rates, gold. And thank you so much for putting on this terrific conference for the benefit of every interested investor. It's been great having you back on the show. Brien Lundin (00:44:43) - Wonderful to talk to you again, Keith, as always. Keith Weinhold (00:44:52) - Oh, yeah. Bright, inarticulate thoughts from Brian, as always, when he and I discussed those related factors of inflation and interest rates. I mean, this is such a germane discussion because, like he brought up, there seems to be this increasing propensity for all asset classes to rise or fall together. Like nearly every asset class is near an all time high right now. I'll need to research the incidence of this some more so that it's not just anecdotal, but the Fed's decisions. They seem to increasingly float up or knock down just about every investment class almost simultaneously. Keith Weinhold (00:45:35) - Real estate stocks, gold, crypto commodities, collectible toys, even nearly everything. And when you're a real estate investor, you are already investing in commodities and metals, and you have direct ownership of those. Now, not so much precious metals in your real estate, but we're talking about items that are built into it, like aluminum and steel and copper. They probably exist in your properties. Well, their prices go into the replacement cost of your property, and they are a reflection of your real estate portfolio's overall value, too. Coming up here on future episodes of the show, it will be the inaugural appearance of the King of Commercial Real Estate here on the show. Also, there seems to be still a mainstream aversion to all debt types, and I suppose it finds me in the position of being real estate's debt proselytizing. Well, coming up on the show, I am going to ask and answer the question for you is any debt worth paying off? Which debts are good to pay down? Which stitch should be paid off, and which debt types do you want to keep, and which debt types do you actually want to get more of? What are the exact distinctions so that you know right where to draw that line on all the debt types that you hold on to. Keith Weinhold (00:47:00) - So coming up here on the show, is any debt worth paying off? And I am pleased to tell you that if you would like to meet in person, yes, you're going to have a chance to do that at the special 50th anniversary of the New Orleans Investment Conference. Now, I'm not sure that meeting me in person really brings any benefit to you or the event, but yes, I am attending in person in New Orleans. I haven't been there since 2021 and I want to return. Brian London really knows how to put on an event. There is a lot of macroeconomic talk there and you will hear more about both that and gold than you will about real estate, although I expect plenty of real estate investing information there as usual. Again, it's November 20th to 23rd, four plus months away. And the registration link that you can use for this is in today's show notes. I will also get it into the next newsletter for you. Big thanks to the wise and wonderful Brien Lundin today. Until next week, I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Keith Weinhold (00:48:03) - Don't quit your daydream. Speaker 5 (00:48:09) - Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get Rich education LLC exclusively. 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Host: Tracy Shuchart (@chigrl) for @MicDropMarkets Guests: Brien Lundin and Dr. Anas AlhajjiBrien Lundin With a career spanning four decades in the investment markets, Brien Lundin serves as president and CEO of Jefferson Financial, Inc., a highly regarded producer of investment-oriented events and publisher of investment newsletters and special reports. Under the Jefferson Financial umbrella, Mr. Lundin serves as publisher and editor of Gold Newsletter, the publication that has been the cornerstone of precious metals advisories since 1971, As editor of Gold Newsletter, Mr. Lundin covers not only resource stocks, but also the entire world of investing, from small-caps of every type to macroeconomics and geopolitical issues that ultimately affect every investor.And he is the host of the annual New Orleans Investment Conference, the oldest and most respected investment event of its kind. (which I will be speaking at this year) Anas AlhajjiDr. Anas is a key note speaker, author and energy market expert. He offers a “Big Picture” approach to energy issues that help investors and decision makers articulate the issues and avoid decision biases. His company Energy Outlook Advisors is an independent research and advisory firm that focuses on the outlook for energy markets and disruptive technologies as well as energy-related geopolitics, policies, and security guidelines. He also has a substack: Energy Outlook Advisors' NewsletterCovering Energy Markets, including oil, gas, renewable energy, Hydrogen, & technologyDisclaimer: This material is presented solely for informational and entertainment purposes and is not to be construed as a recommendation, solicitation, or an offer to buy or sell / long or short any securities, commodities, or any related financial instruments. Please contact a licensed professional before making any investment or trading decisions
Brien Lundin, Editor of the Gold Newsletter and our host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins me to dive into the gold market and underlying gold stocks. We examine the recent trend in the gold price, noting that gold has managed to stay above the $2300 level despite some volatility. Brien also highlights the significant role of Eastern demand, particularly from China, in driving the current rally, even in the absence of major news events. We then look to a couple stocks, Banyan Gold and New Pacific Metals, where Brien sees opportunity. We discuss the recent share price action and the potential catalysts in the near term. Click here to learn more about the New Orleans Investment Conference on November 20-23.
From the floor of the Deutsche Goldmesse in Frankfurt, we are excited to speak with Brien Lundin, publisher of The Gold Newsletter and host of the fantastic New Orleans Investment Conference. We discuss the recent FED announcement, the move in gold and whether an FED rate cut has been priced in by the market. ------------ Thank you to our sponsor VICTORIA GOLD CORP. Make sure to pay them a visit: https://vgcx.com ------------ Guest: Brien Lundin, Publisher Company: The Gold Newsletter
Andy Tanner sits down with Brien London, publisher of the Gold Newsletter and organizer of the New Orleans Investment Conference. They explore the dynamic world of precious metals, discussing the dual roles of gold as insurance and investment. Brian shares insights on the current economic landscape, the importance of owning physical gold, and strategies for leveraging gold through mining stocks and ETFs. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to understand the role of gold in protecting and growing wealth amidst economic uncertainty.
This week, Mike Maharrey holds an exclusive interview with Brien Lundin, editor of Gold Newsletter and the CEO of the renowned New Orleans Investment Conference discuss what's behind the latest rally in gold, and much more, coming up after an abbreviated market update. | Do you own precious metals you would rather not sell, but need access to cash? Get Started Here: https://www.moneymetals.com/gold-loan
Brien Lundin, Editor of The Gold Newsletter and our Host at the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us to discuss the bull market environment he is seeing the precious metals sector. We focus on the gold and silver equities in terms of investor sentiment, daily trading patterns and when money will filter down into the juniors. We discuss companies with resources in the ground, true exploration plays and small scale silver miners. In this bull market environment there's good potential that all these stocks move higher. Click here to find out more on the New Orleans Investment Conference.
Get my new book: https://bronsonequity.com/fireyourself Download my new special report - How to Use Inflation to Your Advantage - www.bronsonequity.com/inflation Welcome to this episode. Today we discuss investment strategies and market projections for the year 2024. Joining us is a distinguished panel of esteemed professionals in the realm of real estate renowned for their expertise, innovative strategies, and outstanding contributions to the industry. Brien Lundin President and CEO of Jefferson Financial, Inc., and the driving force behind the renowned New Orleans Investment Conference and Gold Newsletter. With over four decades of experience in investment markets, Brien's insights span resource stocks, macroeconomics, and geopolitical dynamics. Bridger Pennington Co-Founder of Fund Launch and GP at Ugly Unicorn. Founder of Black Bridge Holdings, Bridger embarked on his entrepreneurial journey at the age of 22. With over 225 deals to his name, Bridger is dedicated to empowering aspiring fund managers through Fund Launch. Neal Bawa the Mad Scientist of Multifamily and CEO/Founder of Grocapitus. Known for his data-driven approach and expertise in commercial real estate, Neal is a sought-after speaker and thought leader in the industry. In this episode, our esteemed panel will dissect pressing topics including the economic outlook for 2024, the impact of interest rate fluctuations, and the role of digital currency in reshaping the financial landscape. Additionally, we'll explore real estate market dynamics, cryptocurrency trends, and the potential of alternative investments in the current climate. Tune in now for exclusive insights from our expert panelists and stay ahead of the curve in your investment journey! TIMESTAMPS 00:40 - Guest Introduction: Brien Lundin, Bridger Pennington, and Neal Bawa 02:38 - Economic outlook for 2024 and the impact of higher interest rates 04:57 - Market predictions and concerns for potential rate cuts and economic impact. 09:35 - The impact of rate cuts on different assets 15:20 - The potential impact of the Federal Reserve's rate cutting cycle on various investments 20:15 - The role of digital currency in the economy reset 24:03 - The discussion on debt, currencies, and the potential for a shift in the financial system 30:02 - Real estate market insights and investment opportunities 34:20 - The current state and future outlook of the cryptocurrency market 38:50 - The potential for gold and uranium in the current market 44:13 - The impact of the election on metal prices and the potential of blockchain technology 50:13 - The potential impact of digital currencies on real estate Connecting with the Guests: Brien Lundin Website: https://www.jeffersoncompanies.com/ https://neworleansconference.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brien-lundin-b37a4819/ X: https://twitter.com/GoldNewsletter Bridger Pennington Website: https://blog.investmentfundsecrets.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridger-pennington-670035127/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bridger_pennington/?hl=en Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1_NBRSd-yIX6tyg31RzCew Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bridgerpenningtonifs/ X: https://twitter.com/bridger_penn?lang=en Linktree: https://linktr.ee/ifs.links Neal Bawa Website: https://multifamilyu.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-bawa/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nealbawa/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/nealbawa/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NealBawaMFU/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MultifamilyU #EconomicOutlook #MultifamilyInsights #InvestmentStrategies
In this week's interview with Dennis Tubbergen on RLA Radio, Brien Lundin, editor of Gold Newsletter and host of the New Orleans Investment Conference, discussed the current state of the global economy. Lundin believes that 2024 could be a significant year for gold and silver due to increasing debt levels and the de-dollarization movement led…
On the 107th episode of the NewGen Mindset podcast, we host Brien Lundin. With him, we delve into the market lessons he has witnessed throughout his career. We discuss market risks that are driving shifts observed by billionaires like Stanley Druckenmiller, who are beginning to buy gold and mining equities. We explore the philosophy behind gold's value and extract lessons from past experiences to educate and inform the next generation. Brien Lundin is the host of the oldest investment conference in the world, known as the ‘New Orleans Investment Conference,' which is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year. The conference's inception occurred after Nixon took America off the Gold Standard, aiming to bring together individuals and empower them with an understanding of shifting global dynamics and how to prepare accordingly. With a career spanning four decades in the investment markets, Brien Lundin serves as the president and CEO of Jefferson Financial, Inc., a highly regarded producer of investment-oriented events and publisher of investment newsletters and special reports. Within the Jefferson Financial umbrella, Mr. Lundin serves as the publisher and editor of Gold Newsletter, the publication that has been the cornerstone of precious metals advisories since 1971. For more on Brien Lundinhttps://neworleansconference.com/ Gold Newsletter - https://goldnewsletter.com/ Nic - @nictartaglia Dan - @dan_kozel93 www.newgenmindset.com Sign up to our newsletter - @ website - www.newgenmindset.com Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/newgen-mindset/id1509522820?i=1000556180979 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0HlKwTnrI4AT5cLNiATlbg?si=wAQwMUd2Q5C2QaiEsLK0zg Google podcast: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8xNTYxYjQ1Yy9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw Go listen Share Follow . . . . . #trading #investing #gold #precious #metals #markets #wealth #silver #inflation #globalmarkets #investment #strategy #society #podcast #usa #canada #economy Disclaimer**** None of the information taken within this episode should be considered investment advice and should only be viewed for information purposes only. NewGenMindset is not a broker, or a licensed provider of financial services. All claims made in this episode to any listener should not be viewed as offering personalized legal or investment counseling. Any investments made in any companies should be consulted with a licensed financial professional from here on. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/newgenmindset/message
Learn the pros and cons of bitcoin, the world's largest cryptocurrency. Bitcoin can be moved well across space and time. You can't move dollars over time due to inflation; you can't move gold over space due to weight and security concerns. Real estate, bitcoin, and gold are all scarce and take real-world resources to produce. Bitcoin is a global digital currency that's decentralized. Nick Giambruno joins us to discuss why bitcoin has value today. Since there can only be 21 million bitcoin, it cannot be debased like dollars are. By April, bitcoin will experience a halving. Rather than 900 new bitcoins brought into issuance daily, there will be 450. The SEC's recent Spot EFT approval will give more investors bitcoin access. The higher the stock-to-flow ratio, the harder the asset. What about governments shutting down bitcoin, regulating it, or taxing it to death? We discuss. Bitcoin price volatility is a problem in currency adoption. Lots of energy is used in bitcoin mining. But much of it is stranded energy. Bitcoin cannot produce income. Keith Weinhold stresses his preferred way to hold bitcoin. Timestamps: Bitcoin's value proposition (00:00:01) Keith Weinhold introduces the topic of Bitcoin's value and why it is relevant to a real estate show. Jamie Dimon's criticism of Bitcoin (00:05:27) JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon expresses his disdain for Bitcoin and blockchain technology in a heated conversation. Bitcoin's resistance to debasement (00:07:19) Keith Weinhold discusses the resistance of Bitcoin to debasement and the skepticism of governments and financial institutions towards it. The origin and value of Bitcoin (00:08:18) Nick Giambruno, an international investor, explains the history and value proposition of Bitcoin, emphasizing its decentralization and resistance to debasement. Bitcoin's hardness and production rate (00:14:21) Nick Giambruno delves into the concept of Bitcoin's hardness and its production requirements, comparing it to other assets like gold and real estate. Bitcoin's upcoming halving event (00:16:28) Nick Giambruno discusses the significance of Bitcoin's upcoming halving event, which will impact its stock-to-flow ratio and reinforce its value proposition. Bitcoin's scarcity (00:19:42) Bitcoin's limited supply and its unique scarcity attribute, compared to other commodities like gold. Upcoming halving event and Bitcoin ETF approval (00:20:53) Discussion on the significance of the upcoming halving event and the approval of a new spot for Bitcoin ETF, indicating the growing acceptance of Bitcoin. Bitcoin as a currency and value proposition (00:22:42) The value of Bitcoin as a currency for transferring value and its resistance to debasement, emphasizing the importance of self-custody of Bitcoin. Global adoption of Bitcoin (00:24:30) Comparison of Bitcoin adoption in different nations, highlighting the potential benefits for early adopters and the impact of Bitcoin on the world's financial landscape. Bitcoin's market potential and investment consideration (00:27:27) The potential market share of Bitcoin in the global economy and the consideration of Bitcoin as an investment asset. Government's ability to regulate Bitcoin (00:34:11) Discussion on the government's potential regulation and taxation of Bitcoin, emphasizing the power of economic incentives and Bitcoin's resilience to government intervention. Bitcoin's uniqueness and credibility (00:36:12) Differentiating Bitcoin from other cryptocurrencies, highlighting its credibility and resistance to change, making it the real innovation in the crypto space. Bitcoin as a Store of Value (00:37:55) Discussion on Bitcoin's role as a store of value and its comparison to gold. Bitcoin as an Emerging Form of Money (00:38:25) Explanation of Bitcoin as an emerging form of money and its distinction from established money like gold. Bitcoin's Transaction Network and the Lightning Network (00:39:37) Explanation of Bitcoin's transaction network, scalability, and the use of the Lightning Network for smaller transactions. Earning Income from Bitcoin (00:41:40) Discussion on earning income from Bitcoin through related companies, dividends, and caution regarding Bitcoin lending services. Bitcoin Exchanges and Custody (00:44:20) The importance of custodying your own Bitcoin and the risks associated with centralized Bitcoin exchanges. Connecting with the Guest (00:45:13) Information on how to connect with the guest and access a helpful Bitcoin guide. Bitcoin's Energy Use and Price Volatility (00:46:01) Insights into Bitcoin's energy use, price volatility, and the use of stranded energy sources by miners. Real Estate vs. Bitcoin (00:47:04) Comparison of real estate as a wealth builder with the merits and risks of owning gold and Bitcoin. Disclaimer and Conclusion (00:47:54) Disclaimer about the content and a conclusion to the episode. Resources mentioned: Show Page: GetRichEducation.com/488 More on Nick Giambruno: FinancialUnderground.com For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments. You get paid first: Text FAMILY to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review” Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREmarketplace.com/Coach Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold (00:00:01) - Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Why does Bitcoin have any value? And why is a real estate show dedicating one episode to this topic now? The benefits and criticisms of the world's largest cryptocurrency Bitcoin today on Get Rich Education. If you like the Get Rich Education podcast, you're going to love art. Don't quit your day. Dream newsletter. No, I here I write every word of the letter myself. It wires your mind for wealth. It helps you make money in your sleep and updates you on vital real estate investing trends. It's free. Sign up egg get rich education com slash letter. It's real content that makes a real difference in your life, spiced with a dash of humor rather than living below your means, learn how to grow your means right now. You can also easily get the letter by texting gray to 66866. Text gray to 66866. Corey Coates (00:01:06) - You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. Keith Weinhold (00:01:22) - Work degree from Quito, Ecuador, where I am today, to the Mosquito Coast, Nicaragua, and across 188 nations worldwide. Keith Weinhold (00:01:29) - You're listening. One of the United States longest running and most less than two shows on real estate investing. I'm your host, Keith Reinhold. Yes, we're a real estate show, but with 488 episodes, it's time to focus at least one of them. Finally, on Bitcoin. We'll bring it back to US real estate next week. Now, this is for a few reasons. Today, Bitcoin is largely misunderstood. It's become so big that it's hard to ignore. And there are two recent Bitcoin events two happenings with global impact that makes now the right time to cover this. Now look, I think that it's human nature that when you learn about something new for the first time and you don't understand how it works like Bitcoin, it's sort of innate to you start criticizing it or sort of discounted in your mind, chiefly because you don't understand it. Though Bitcoin's pseudonymous creator, Satoshi Nakamoto wrote the Bitcoin paper in 2008 and the first Bitcoin was issued in 2009. And, you know, when I first heard about it sometime after that, I probably discounted it in my mind as well. Keith Weinhold (00:02:45) - And I think most people that don't understand Bitcoin, you know, they first think something like, oh come on, what is this. Just magic internet money. How does that work? How could that have any value. And I think is one matures when encountering the unknown. They inquire rather than criticize it. Look now and I'm getting really personal here, aren't I? I don't do drugs and I never have. But I don't criticize those that do drugs because it's a world that I just don't understand at all. Last year I was having dinner with a couple. They asked me what book I'm currently reading, and I told them that it's a 350 page book about Bitcoin, and the response was laughter, sort of dismissing it. And they said, well, how could anyone write that many pages about Bitcoin just completely discounting the whole thing? Well, for me, a turning point on Bitcoin is when I found highly intelligent people that understood it well and they were excited about it and they endorsed it. Now real estate has more intrinsic value than the dollar or gold or Bitcoin. Keith Weinhold (00:04:02) - Because real estate is essential to your survival. You can make arguments that the dollar, gold and Bitcoin all have questionable backing. But today enough people agree that the dollar, gold and Bitcoin all have value. People are agreeing all three gold, the dollar and Bitcoin have varying levels then of anthropogenic faith. Today you and I, we live in a digital world that's comprised of 195 world nations. Well then, shouldn't money be made of something that's digital and doesn't know any national borders? Think of Bitcoin's value proposition this way you cannot move dollars across time. That's due to inflation. You can't move gold across space that's due to weight and security. But consider this Bitcoin can be officially moved across both space and time. Its supply is absolutely fixed. At 21 million, there can never be more than 21 million bitcoin either. It's traded on the blockchain, which is basically a digital ledger, but not every intelligent or influential finance person believes in Bitcoin. Of course, not every one of them. For example, it gets a little heated here from last month. Keith Weinhold (00:05:27) - This is one of the most powerful men in the world. JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon. He's getting annoyed about CNBC asking him about Bitcoin just entirely too often. What do you make of the other firms the BlackRock's of the world. CNBC (00:05:42) - That that obviously and Larry Fink change his view of this obviously. And maybe he changed his view because you think he genuinely believes in Bitcoin or or believed it because he thinks that there's a marketplace for it and he wants to be part of that market. But what do you think of the there's about a dozen big financial companies, fidelity included. Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan Chase (00:05:59) - Number one I don't care. So just please stop talking about this. And and I don't know what he would say about blockchain versus currencies to do something versus Bitcoin that does nothing. And maybe that's not different than me. But you know, this is what makes a market. People have opinions. This is the last time I'm ever in state. In my opinion. CNBC (00:06:18) - Gold really didn't do anything either. Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan Chase (00:06:21) - Yet because it's limited in supply. Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan Chase (00:06:23) - So it's and it's been used. Uh, so you think so, huh? I do think there's a good chance that when bitcoin when we get to that 20 million bitcoins 42 know that Satoshi is going to come on there laugh hysterically. Go quiet. All Bitcoin is going to be erased I think. How the hell do you know it's going to stop at 21? I've never met one person who told me they know for a fact they take that as it's not. CNBC (00:06:44) - It hasn't happened because by the last one will be mined in 2150. And it gets harder and harder every time there's another halving. But but, Jamie, I do like looking back over. Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan Chase (00:06:55) - Just do what you want. I'll do what I want. Ask for gold. CNBC (00:06:57) - You can. The six characteristics that make gold valuable for 4000 years. They're all present in Bitcoin. That's all I'm saying. I love you and I don't want to. And I also don't I don't also don't want to be a you may enjoy Joe. Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan Chase (00:07:08) - You may be right. Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan Chase (00:07:09) - Yeah. Like I don't own gold either. So okay. That's what. CNBC (00:07:11) - I mean. CNBC (00:07:12) - Couple of quick final question. Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan Chase (00:07:12) - I like to own things that pay me incomes, but it doesn't cost money to carry anyway. And it costs money to carry Bitcoin to. By the way. Keith Weinhold (00:07:19) - Uh, that was Jamie Diamond. Now governments and banksters like Jamie Diamond, they often dislike bitcoin because it cuts out the use of their chief product, the dollar. So governments are especially hesitant to want to promote bitcoin, a lot of them in the world. Anyway, I've got a conversation with a bitcoin expert coming up. We're going to talk about its value proposition and then the criticisms. Yes, I'm in Quito today. I was last year in Ecuador two years ago, this Colorado sized nation of 18 million people. I plan to attempt climbing to the summit of a 20,000 foot mountain later in the week. As for today, let's continue with why should Bitcoin have any value? Today's guest is the founder of the Financial Underground, and he is the editor in chief of that publication. Keith Weinhold (00:08:18) - He's a renowned international investor, and he specializes in identifying big picture geopolitical and economic trends ahead of the crowd. And you've seen him featured seemingly in everything from Forbes to the Ron Paul Liberty Report. He was a speaker at the well-known New Orleans Investment Conference as well. Hey, it's great to welcome on to gray, Nick. Jim Bruno. Nick Giambruno (00:08:41) - Hey, Keith, great to be with you. Keith Weinhold (00:08:43) - I think a lot of our listeners are real estate investors are going to be wondering now, why are you talking about Bitcoin on a real estate show? Actually, I think there are a few more commonalities here than what a lot of people think. What a real estate in Bitcoin have in common. They're both scarce, neither can be easily deluded, and they both take real world resources to produce more of. You could apply those same three attributes to gold. So real estate gold and bitcoin they have this scarcity. And really I think that's a wise investing theme. Go ahead and invest in what's scarce. Limit what's abundant and take zero cost to produce like dollars. Keith Weinhold (00:09:21) - So really that's the commonality between real estate in Bitcoin. But on a real estate show, I think we have a lot of listeners that just don't have an overall common understanding. Nick, of just what is bitcoin and why does it have any value in the first place? Nick Giambruno (00:09:37) - Well, that is a some very good observations and a very profound question. What is Bitcoin. Well, Bitcoin is a relatively new asset. However it has been decades in the making. People don't understand that Bitcoin didn't just fall out of the sky, or is some kind of accident in some mad sciences garage. This is something that has been in the the works basically since the late 70s, and it came out of the Cypherpunk movement. Now, you may have heard of these people. You may have not. The Cypherpunks are basically I find them as the good guys. They are involved in creating technologies that empower the individual and disempower the state. They are behind some of the most prominent freedom oriented technologies that you and I may take for granted, including encryption. Nick Giambruno (00:10:27) - And that's another story in and of itself. Let me just briefly get into that, because that's what puts the crypto cryptography in cryptocurrency. Cryptography is a very important field. It's basically the method of encoding information so that only the recipient can see it. And it's very important to understand that while we take for granted the average person has access to unbreakable cryptography today, that was not always the case. Cryptography has been around since the time of the ancient Greeks, and maybe even before, but it's always been a government monopoly until very recently in terms of historical standards, when cryptography was made available to the average person. That is a very profound thing, because now the average person can secure their information and secure their online life in a way that nobody can break. The US government can't break it. Chinese government can't break it, nobody can break it. And that is very important. And that laid the foundation for Bitcoin. So what is bitcoin. It's just a summit. But it is a superior alternative to central banking. Nick Giambruno (00:11:27) - And that is a very revolutionary thing. It basically does the job of what a central bank does but much much, much better and removes all of the corruption, all of the nastiness that goes along with central banking. So what we have here is a genuine, workable alternative to central banking, and we can get into the details of that. But if you want to look at it, what it is, that's what it is. And at the same time, it's a form of money that is not just resistant to debasement, it's totally resistant to debasement. You're talking about gold and real estate. Well, gold. What made gold money over thousands of years? Yes, it is scarce. However, I always like to use this example. There's a concept that's related to scarcity, but it's not that it was scarce. And the reason is, is think about platinum and palladium. There's actually scarcer than gold, like there are fewer ounces of platinum and palladium in the world than there are gold ounces. So why don't people use platinum and palladium as money? It's a very, very important point. Nick Giambruno (00:12:26) - The reason is, is because the platinum and palladium supply is not resistant to debasement. So it's scarcer, but it's not resistant to debasement. What does that mean? It means the annual supply growth of platinum and palladium are basically equal to the stockpiles. So depending on what this year or next year's annual production of platinum or palladium are going to be, it can wildly swing the market. That is not true of gold. Gold is only about 1.5% growth per year. And that's very, very consistent. What does that mean? That is a very important concept. So the gold supply only grows at about 1.5% per year. Keith Weinhold (00:13:02) - And this is basically an inflation rate. Nick Giambruno (00:13:04) - Yes it is its inflation rate. But it's very small and nobody can really change that. Think about it. There's a. It's not as if people don't want to increase the gold supply. They would love to. The way that the gold is distributed in the world, and the cost it takes to mining it puts a really hard limit on what you can produce each year. Nick Giambruno (00:13:22) - So that's what makes it a good store of value. And if something is not a good store of value, it's not going to be a good money. These are some very, very fundamental concepts I'm talking about because they also apply to Bitcoin. Keith Weinhold (00:13:35) - Then when someone asked me what Bitcoin is to give it a really short definition, I call Bitcoin a global digital currency that's decentralized. And you brought up the decentralization. That's really important. That's where I can make a peer to peer payment without having to go through an intermediary where I can send my Bitcoin directly over to Nick. There was no bank involved in that transaction, for example, the decentralization of Bitcoin. But we talk more about why Bitcoin has value. I believe you began touching on it there, Nick. Bitcoin has this hardness, which is a strange term to people because Bitcoin is digital. So can you tell us more about Bitcoin's value that comes through its hardness. Nick Giambruno (00:14:21) - Let me just touch on a quick point you made also. So simply put, the value proposition of Bitcoin is that it allows anybody, anywhere in the world to send and receive value without depending on any third party. Nick Giambruno (00:14:32) - At the same time. It's a form of money that is 100% resistant to debasement. That's its value proposition. That's a very profound thing. So going to the hardness. Yes, hardness is a concept that a lot of people get confused. Look, I love gold, I own gold, I recommend gold chain from the gold community. And I know the gold community. So I think a lot of people in the gold community get confused around this hardness now. They think it's hard, like physically hard, like abrasive metal. That's not what art means. Hard. And in terms of a hard asset, what it means is hard to produce. That's what it means. Yeah, that's what a hard asset is. It's hard to produce. And what is the opposite of that? Something that's easy to produce. Nobody would want to store their value, store their savings, store their economic energy into something that somebody else can make with no effort, almost like, you know, oh, let's put our life savings in arcade tokens or frequent flyer miles. Nick Giambruno (00:15:26) - It's ridiculous when you think of it in that way. But that is, in my humble opinion, the most important attribute of money is that it's hard to produce all the other attributes of money. Quite frankly, are meaningless if the money is not hard to produce. Because if it's not hard to produce, none of the other stuff matters. And that's the most crucial attribute of money. Keith Weinhold (00:15:45) - Yes, reinforcing why we have that investing theme of invest in something that's scarce and difficult to produce and takes real world resources to produce, much like real estate does. Much like gold with all the mining and assaying and much like Bitcoin, because to produce new Bitcoin, it takes electricity, it takes hardware and it takes software, some real world resources in order to produce Bitcoin. We talk about the production rate or the inflation rate in just a couple months. Here we're coming up on something really interesting, which is really one reason why I have you on the show talking about Bitcoin now. And that is the having event, the halving being that rate of new Bitcoin issuance is cut in half every four years. Keith Weinhold (00:16:28) - So tell us more about that and bring the stock to flow ratio into the conversation here. We're at a cusp. Nick Giambruno (00:16:34) - Of a very important moment in monetary history. Because you can quantify the hardness of an asset. It is quantifiable. It is basically the inverse of the supply growth. And there's another way of saying that, as you mentioned, the stock to flow ratio basically. In short, you got the stockpiles. That's what's available. And then you have the flow which is like the new supply. So the higher the stock to flow, the harder the asset is and the more resistant to debasement it is. And same thing when you take the the supply growth, you want a smaller supply growth. It's just the inverse of the stock to flow. So gold has always been mankind's artist money for thousands of years and gold's stock to blow ratios about I think it's around 60 which means it takes about 60 years of current production to equal current supplies. If you look at silver, it's much less than gold. Nick Giambruno (00:17:25) - And every other commodity is closer to one, which means that every year the new production basically equals the existing stockpiles. And that's not a very good attribute for something that you want to have as a store of value. Now, what is going to happen in this having that's coming up in around April of this year? You can quantify the stock that flow. I just told you how to quantify it. So right now Bitcoin and gold have about equal stock to flow ratios in about equal hardness. However a key feature of the Bitcoin protocol is that every four years the new Bitcoin supply issuance gets cut in half until around the year 2140, when it is just goes to zero. So Bitcoin is not only going to exceed gold's hardness in a few months, it's going to double it. Now that is a very interesting moment in monetary history because mankind has not had a harder money than gold I don't think. Ever. So this is all going to be very important and it's coming very soon in April. Late April I think is when it's going to happen. Nick Giambruno (00:18:28) - So a very important moment in monetary history. Keith Weinhold (00:18:31) - There is real profundity there with the stock to flow ratio of Bitcoin exceeding that of gold with the upcoming having. And if you, the listener still hung up on the stock to flow ratio, we're talking about the ratio of the existing stock, how much of this stuff already exists, whether it's real estate or gold or Bitcoin divided by the rate of new issuance. So the higher the stock to flow ratio, and as it has the greater hardness it has. And currently 900 new bitcoins per day are being produced. And the having means just what it sounds like in April that will drop to 450 new bitcoins being mined into existence each day. So really you can think of Bitcoin as being disinflationary. It will continue to inflate until the year 2140. Like Nick described. That's when new bitcoin will cease to be mined. And until that point, the new amount the flow continues to get halved. Every four years, there will only ever be 21 million Bitcoin that exist, and 19.6 million of those have already been mined. Keith Weinhold (00:19:36) - So you can get an idea of the hardness and how this helps supply the value of Bitcoin. Nick Giambruno (00:19:42) - Well, absolutely. And it's he talks about that. I think it's something like 93% of the time, supply has already been mined, and the remaining 7% are going to come online over the next 120 years or so. You might want to get some before other people figure this out. There is definitely not enough Bitcoin for every millionaire to have one bitcoin, it's far less. I think there's something maybe 50 million millionaires in the world, probably more. They can't all have a bitcoin. It's a very tight supply and we have a situation here too that is related. Because Bitcoin is the only asset, the only commodity were higher prices cannot induce more supply. If gold went to 10,000, you can be sure there are going to be more gold miners getting into the business, more economic deposits being found and and exploited and more supply eventually coming on to the market. Great point. And the same is true for every commodity. Nick Giambruno (00:20:38) - Gold is just the most resistant to that process. However, Bitcoin, no matter how high the price goes, it cannot induce the production of more Bitcoin. That's a very unique scarcity attribute that I don't think people really appreciate very much. It's certainly there. Keith Weinhold (00:20:53) - So this upcoming halving event is one reason why I'm having Nick on the show now to do our first ever Bitcoin episode in almost 500 episodes. And the other reason is the nation see of the SEC approving a new spot to Bitcoin ETF. And all that basically means is it helps give everyday investors really easy access to Bitcoin without having to set up a crypto wallet and bam, hey, your mom can become a crypto bro now. Nick Giambruno (00:21:22) - It is certainly a milestone in acceptance. I think it signifies that Bitcoin is no longer a fringe. It's here to stay. It took over ten years for the SEC to approve one of these things. I think the Winklevoss twins applied over ten years ago for the first Bitcoin ETF, so they reluctantly did it. I don't think they want it to do it. Nick Giambruno (00:21:43) - I think they lost a couple of key court cases that kind of forced their hand, but they did approve it. I frankly don't recommend the ETFs. It's not really Bitcoin because what you have is a Bitcoin IOU, several Bitcoin IOUs. So let's say you buy the Blackrock Bitcoin ETF. Will you have an IOU from your broker for the Blackrock ETF share. And the broker has an IOU from Blackrock. And then Blackrock has an IOU from Coinbase which actually holds the Bitcoin. So I always tell people look it's a spectrum. If you want to take that trade off and you're taking a trade off for convenience over a security and sovereignty, if you want to take that trade off, that's go right ahead. But be have your eyes wide open and be conscious of the trade off that you're making. I always prefer to, uh, tell people Bitcoin is unique. This is a bearer asset. People forget about bearer assets. Bearer assets are a very good thing. They give the people who hold them ownership over them. Nick Giambruno (00:22:42) - I think people who are interested in sovereignty. One thing too that's very important is that even if the Bitcoin price stays flat forever, it doesn't go up at all. It still offers people tremendous value as what we were talking about before, even if it stays flat and doesn't go up ever again, it's still offers anybody, anywhere in the world the ability to send and receive value from anybody else, anywhere in the world, and to hold money that's resistant to debasement, that's hugely valuable, even if the price doesn't go up. So and you can only get those benefits if you hold Bitcoin properly in your own bitcoin wallet, where you control the keys and only you control the keys, because that's who has ownership to this. Bitcoin is by who controls those private keys. You can just kind of think of that like the password dear Bitcoin. So that's what you want to do. If you can learn how to drive a car you can learn how to self-custody Bitcoin. Keith Weinhold (00:23:33) - I love what you did there, Nick, because what you helped us do is you helped us transition from talking about Bitcoin as an investment asset to using bitcoin as a currency, if you wish to use it to transfer value. Keith Weinhold (00:23:47) - Really, Nick, I think a lot of people in the United States, one reason that they're not that interested in Bitcoin is because our currency, our United States dollar, it sure has problems. It sure recently went through a big wave of inflation, but our currency just is not as bad as some of these worthless pieces of paper have been in the Argentine currency or in Turkey or in Iran or Haiti. So maybe Americans don't have enough of a reason to want to go ahead and get a currency that holds its value. So what are your thoughts with what people in other nations are doing, including El Salvador, with immediate legal tender versus the United States, where we have this dollar that's being debased but just not quite at the rate of most other world nations. Nick Giambruno (00:24:30) - That's a good point. I see this in my travels around the world. It may seem like an advantage for the Americans, but I think it's a disadvantage because they're going to be catch on to this last because they're going to have, oh, we've got the dollar. Nick Giambruno (00:24:43) - The dollar's great. So why do I need to look at other alternatives. And and they're going to be the last people. So you're going to have I think what you could see over this the next few years, and certainly over the longer term, is that countries like El Salvador, the countries that are experiencing the highest rates of inflation now and are thus more motivated to look at a superior form of money like Bitcoin or gold, but a lot of them are going to Bitcoin. These are going to be the countries that might fare better over the long term, because they're going to be relatively early adopters in this superior monetary technology. Nobody takes a horse and buggy from New York to California anymore. No, you don't need to because you have airplanes, you have cars, superior technologies for transportation. And likewise, we now have a superior technology for money, which is to say storing and exchanging value. That's all money is. People think it's all confusing. You need a PhD and there's all these charts and confusing jargon. Nick Giambruno (00:25:38) - Money is not confusing. It's actually intuitive and anybody in the world can understand it. It's just something that stores and exchanges value. It's really quite simple. So now we have a superior technology for storing and exchanging value. And I think people who adopt it first are going to reap the most benefits. There are a lot of Americans who have adopted it, but they have been spoiled by the fact that the dollar has been the world's reserve currency. Now, I think that's going away. That's a whole other story. I think that's the two big reasons why, you know, you shouldn't just depend on the dollar one. We can talk. This is a whole new discussion about the dollar as the world reserve currency. I think it's going away. But now despite that we also have a superior alternative with Bitcoin. So yeah, I think the people who are going to adopt this technology sooner are going to reap the most benefits. Keith Weinhold (00:26:24) - Well, Nick, in your opinion, is Bitcoin's takeover inevitable and how does that look? Nick Giambruno (00:26:30) - I don't think anything's inevitable. Nick Giambruno (00:26:32) - I think it's a good that I mean, if I thought it was inevitable, I would sell everything and buy it. I have a more diversified portfolio, but I have a strong conviction in it, very strong conviction in it. But nothing is certain. Nothing's 100%. So I never tell people, you know, and I'm not giving anybody any investment advice. I'm not a registered investment advisor or anything like that. But in any case, even if I was, I wouldn't tell anybody to go all in on anything. And that's certainly not how I manage my risk. However, I do have a very high conviction in it, and I think as it stands now, it has an excellent chance at gaining huge market share in the market for money. And people don't think of money as a market, like a real estate market or a technology market, or the market for any industry. But money is a market. It's probably the biggest market. And I think Bitcoin is you need to put it into perspective, the market cap of all the gold in the entire world is about $13.7 trillion. Nick Giambruno (00:27:27) - The market cap for all Bitcoin in the world, last I checked, is around $850 billion. So we're less than 10% of gold's market cap. It has. And that's not even including all the fiat currencies. All the fiat currencies have a much larger market cap than even gold. So Bitcoin is just a blip on people's radars. So I think it has a lot of upside from here. Keith Weinhold (00:27:46) - One important question an investor can ask themselves once they learn more about Bitcoin is, can I really afford to have absolutely none? You're listening to get reciprocation. We're talking with Nick Bruno of the Financial Underground Warren. 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We're talking about Bitcoin in a dedicated episode for the first time ever here in the history of the show. And when we had a chance to talk to Nick Bruno, you can see why we wanted to do this. But, Nick, a lot of people in the United States are concerned that the US government might do something similar to what China did and just go ahead and shut down Bitcoin and shut down cryptocurrency because Bitcoin, it basically competes with the US government's product, the dollar. So what are your thoughts when people say, oh I don't know about that. The government can just shut Bitcoin down. Nick Giambruno (00:30:53) - I'm glad you mentioned China because the communist governor of China is a very powerful governments. Nick Giambruno (00:30:58) - It's one of the most powerful and maybe arguably the most powerful government in the world. And they've tried many times to ban Bitcoin. You know how it turned out. It was a total failure because Bitcoin is basically code in its mathematics. So it's not the easiest thing to ban even if they wanted to ban it. You're trying to ban mathematics because that's all Bitcoin is. And further many Bitcoin wallets and it all works on cryptography. As and as I said, cryptography is just advanced mathematics. Many Bitcoin wallets have a way to back up your funds a 12 word phrase. So if you can memorize well words, which represents your wallet, you can potentially store billions of dollars just in your head. Now this is how are you going to ban that? You can't ban that. It's completely impractical. I always tell people, you know, look at how governments have tried to ban cannabis. Everybody has been able to buy cannabis in any city they wanted to. And then also other countries have tried to ban US dollars. Nick Giambruno (00:31:57) - Argentina tries to ban U.S. dollars, Venezuela tries to ban U.S. dollars. You know what it does? It creates nothing. But an underground market doesn't extinguish people's desire to have dollars. And I think that's what we have here. I think economic incentives are more powerful than governments. And aside from that, I don't think that's going to happen because what they approve all these ETFs, that they were just going to turn around and ban it? I don't think so. Further, you have lots of court cases. There is established federal court cases that have ruled that computer code, which Bitcoin is just computer code, is equivalent to free speech protected under the First amendment of the US Constitution. Oh yes, I understand the Constitution is not people can change it and it's malleable. But still, that complicates any government's desire to ban it. They're going to have to overturn those federal court cases. That's not going to be easy. And even if they do, how are you going to ban something that somebody can just memorize with 12 words written on a piece of paper or in their head, it's completely impractical. Nick Giambruno (00:32:58) - And then, of course, you have the example of China, which has banned Bitcoin several times. You know what? Absolutely nothing happened. But Bitcoin business is moving out of China and Bitcoin adoption among regular Chinese people going up. They can hinder businesses and large like entities that have big presences. They can hinder that certainly. But Bitcoin is global. It'll just go where it's treated best. It's like water. It'll just move to wherever it's treated best. I always say this too. So even if like the northern hemisphere disappeared, let's say there's an all out nuclear war between Russia and the US that will basically wipe out the northern hemisphere. You know what? Bitcoin won't miss a beat in the southern hemisphere. It'll still keep going in the southern hemisphere because it is decentralized and un over tens of thousands of computers around the world. And if even one of those computers survives Bitcoin lives on. So I think this is a very, very hard I wouldn't want to be trying to ban this thing because it's not practical. Keith Weinhold (00:33:56) - Other critics say, all right, if the government can't ban it, well, the government can just then allow it make it be legal, but they can regulate the heck out of it and they can tax it at really high rates. What are your thoughts there? Nick Giambruno (00:34:11) - Well, the government can do whatever it wants, but I think, yes, it can do all of those things. But I think here's the main point is that Bitcoin is we talked about economic incentives. Economic incentives are more powerful than politicians. And I think that's a truism. So as more people become holders of bitcoin aware of bitcoin, I don't think restricting bitcoin or banning bitcoin or adding regulations to Bitcoin or adding taxation to it, I don't think that's going to help anybody win an election. Is that going to help anybody win an election? I don't think so. That would be extremely politically unpopular. Yeah, that could happen. It would be bad news for the people who live in that jersey. But you know what? It's not going to kill bitcoin. Nick Giambruno (00:34:52) - It's going to just be a hindrance for the people who live under these Luddite politicians who would do such a thing. But I don't think they're going to do such a thing. They just approve the ETF. I think Bitcoin has reached escape velocity in terms of its political popularity. I don't think anybody is going to win an election by being tough on Bitcoin. Keith Weinhold (00:35:11) - A number of congresspeople hold bitcoin, Cynthia Loomis being one of the more prominent ones. And then you and I talked about the SEC spot Bitcoin ETF approval earlier. Well, that's a bit of a de facto stamp of approval on bitcoin really in a sense. And I think another criticism Nick, in my opinion this is easy to dispel. But some people will say, well, there are tens of thousands of cryptocurrencies out there. This stuff's just junk. There's something like hump coin that a prominent rapper promotes. I mean, all this stuff is just a bunch of junk. When all these cryptocurrencies come out. And I tend to think that's very different than Bitcoin. Keith Weinhold (00:35:50) - Just like if there's some new stock IPO with zero fundamentals that comes out, I mean that doesn't diminish blue chippers like Apple or Microsoft at all. So I think of Bitcoin as the first or one of the first cryptocurrencies with a finite supply. So these overnight fly by night new cryptos I don't think that's really a very good criticism of Bitcoin. Nick Giambruno (00:36:12) - No, I think this is one of the most popular misconceptions is that there is this crypto asset class and that Bitcoin is just one of 20,000 cryptocurrencies. And I think this is transparently false. It's like saying, oh, you know an increase in the pyrite supply is going to, you know, dilute the gold or something right. So it's kind of ridiculous. And the reason behind this is very simple. Bitcoin is the only one that nobody controls. Nobody can change bitcoin. It's the only one that is like that from Ethereum which is number two on down. They can be changed. A group of people can get together and change it. And in fact, Ethereum's monetary policy has been changed more often than the Federal Reserve's monetary policy. Nick Giambruno (00:36:54) - It's just instead of the FOMC getting together and deciding what we should do with the money supply, it's a group of Ethereum developers and insiders that get together and change it. And the same thing is true of every other cryptocurrency. So that's the very defining feature of Bitcoin is that nobody can change it. That's what makes it interesting. If somebody could change Bitcoin, it wouldn't be interesting. And we don't need to get into the weeds of that. But needless to say, Bitcoin is the only one where the supply has credibility. We all know the bitcoin supply is 21 million. Nobody can do anything to change that. What is the Bitcoin supply going to be in five years? I could tell you with precision what it will be in five years. I can tell you with precision what it'll be in ten years. And you tell me what the Ethereum supply is going to be in five years. Can you tell me what the supply is going to be in ten years? You tell me what any cryptocurrency aside from Bitcoin supply is going to be in five years. Nick Giambruno (00:37:41) - No you can't because it depends on how the developers are going to change it. So it's quite ridiculous to lump these two things together. They're entirely separate. Crypto is a cesspool. Quite frankly. Bitcoin is the real innovation. Keith Weinhold (00:37:55) - And immutable protocol as they call it. Nick, I think one criticism is to pull back. We all know that money is three things. It's a store of value. It's a medium of exchange and it's a unit of account. And a lot of people say, I don't think Bitcoin can be a legitimate currency because all people do is store it. So it might meet the store of value criterion of those three. But I don't know about its legitimacy as a currency. Does that matter? I mean, people kind of use gold as a store of value, but not a currency. What are your thoughts? Nick Giambruno (00:38:25) - Yes, it does matter. And it's a good question. The answer is is Bitcoin is not an established money. Take gold for example. Gold has been around for thousands of years. Nick Giambruno (00:38:34) - It is an established form of money. Bitcoin is an emerging form of money. It's a very big distinction. So I personally think the way this will go and you know people disagree. But I think just logically, if you look at it, yes, story of value comes first. Why. Because once people store their value in Bitcoin, the monetary network of people who will be willing to exchange that bitcoin for something else grows and you can't have one before the other in terms of like nobody's going to exchange bitcoin if they're not already storing bitcoin. So the more people that store bitcoin have it available to exchange it for other people, it's like a network effect, any kind of network effect. That's a monetary network effect. And that's time to build further Bitcoin related misunderstanding is you kind of view Bitcoin in a different lens than just paying for like a cup of coffee, because that's really not what it's made for. The Bitcoin network has a hard limit on the number of transactions that I can process every day in order to keep it decentralized, because if it processed everybody's coffee transaction, you would need huge data centers to run the Bitcoin software. Nick Giambruno (00:39:37) - The matter is, is that the Bitcoin software needs to be decentralized. So right now, anybody who has an average laptop, an average Raspberry Pi can run Bitcoin. That is very important for its decentralization. And if you were putting everybody's retail transaction on the Bitcoin blockchain would be impossible. You need large data centers. Now does that mean Bitcoin can't scale to become a medium of exchange? Absolutely not. You have to just think of bitcoin. What is a Bitcoin transaction represents. It represents final international settlement and clearance. So it's more akin to an international wire transfer. You wouldn't pay for a cup of coffee with from a Swiss bank account to Starbucks in New York. That's basically what you're talking about. What you do is you build layers. There are different layers that are built on top of that bedrock, which is the Bitcoin network that is immutable, unchangeable, and then you build transaction networks on top of that. So what we have with Bitcoin, the most prominent one right now is called the Lightning Network, which is another network that's built on top of Bitcoin that is really more suitable for smaller day to day coffee transactions. Nick Giambruno (00:40:43) - You can actually send about 1/32 of a penny over lightning. So you can do all sorts of micro-transactions. Very interesting. So that's akin to, you know, like a credit card or a credit card is kind of like a layer two network that's built on top of central banks, which do international clearing and settling, and credit cards are built on top of that. And you can think of the same kind of solutions that are going to be built on Bitcoin. You're going to have different layers for different applications. And in terms of these medium of exchange and transaction network in Bitcoin it's the Lightning Network. And it's very exciting to use. Keith Weinhold (00:41:19) - Yeah the Lightning Network it's been around for a while. It's been getting more adoption to help promote payments through Bitcoin. Being a real estate investing show here, oftentimes our listeners are interested in buying a property that will produce income from a tenant that's in that property. Can Bitcoin produce income? Nick Giambruno (00:41:40) - Bitcoin itself cannot produce income because it's just simply money. It's simply an asset in the same sense that gold doesn't produce income. Nick Giambruno (00:41:47) - If you want to earn income from Bitcoin, invest in Bitcoin related companies and Bitcoin related businesses that pay dividends. There are some and there is going to be many more. There are Bitcoin mining companies. These are companies I specialize in covering. In my financial research. They're relatively new. They don't pay dividends yet, but there are several that are looking to establish dividends. You can also lend your bitcoin I mean that's not bitcoin giving you a yield. That's you earning a yield from lending your bitcoin. I would caution you because there's been a lot of these kinds of bitcoin lending services that have gone bankrupt. BlockFi Celsius I'd be. And so whenever I hear about Bitcoin yields I caution people to be not just vigilant, be double vigilant of how you would normally be because there's been so many scams in this area and bad companies that have gone bankrupt. Taking advantage of people looking to earn a yield on their bitcoin. It's really a nascent industry. And you know what? Look at Bitcoin's compounded annual growth rate over any period of time for years. Nick Giambruno (00:42:50) - You don't need a yield. It's going up if the trends continue. And I always tell people if you're going to invest in Bitcoin, have at least a four year time horizon, because that's a long time horizon. But the reason is, is because that gives you through one halving cycle, these having cycles go every four years. It's almost impossible. There's maybe a couple of instances, a couple of days where the bitcoin price wasn't higher than it was four years ago. So I always tell people have a four year time horizon when you're dealing with Bitcoin. And when you look at the returns, that could be possible. And I think the pastor. Returns. Past performance doesn't guarantee anything in the future, but I think that being said, we can expect this cycle to be similar to the other cycles. When you see that kind of potential, it should really make you not interested in these yield products. Keith Weinhold (00:43:39) - You mentioned a couple of bankrupt crypto exchanges there, BlockFi and Celsius. I got caught up in some of that. Keith Weinhold (00:43:48) - Now I keep all of mine on a hard wallet because really what these exchanges do is they're centralize something that's supposed to be decentralized like Bitcoin, and it gives Bitcoin a really bad name. Nick, I had some people reach out to me when FTX imploded and people said, this proves that Bitcoin is a scam. And I had to gently explain to people, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Just because Wells Fargo or Chase fails. We didn't say the dollar failed. It wasn't a failure in Bitcoin. It was a failure in these exchanges. Nick Giambruno (00:44:20) - Oh, yes. This has been going on for a long time. And before FTX, there's Mt. Gox. There's a lot of these things. So I think the underlying lesson here in all of these examples is that don't trust third parties. And with Bitcoin you don't need to trust their authorities because if you can learn to custody your own Bitcoin, you are totally responsible, totally in control of your destiny. You don't have to worry about one of these bitcoin companies going bankrupt because you hold it and only you hold it. Nick Giambruno (00:44:48) - And I think that's what makes it special. Keith Weinhold (00:44:51) - This has been a great chat and I think a really good Bitcoin 101 for a person that still doesn't understand very much about it. And you help people understand Bitcoin, you do an awful lot of other things, including informing people about global trends and macroeconomics. So if someone wants to connect with you and learn more from you, what's the best way for them to do that? Nick Giambruno (00:45:13) - The best place is Financial Underground Comm. I have a really helpful Bitcoin guide that shows people how to use it in the most sovereign and the most private ways possible, and I keep that guide up to date with the current best practices, because these things change very frequently. Like what is the best wallet, what is the best hardware wallet, and so forth. So I keep this guide alive with the best current practices. I think that would be a big help for people. Could definitely save them many, many hours of time by simply just identifying today's best practices. So I think that would be very helpful. Nick Giambruno (00:45:45) - You can find all that at Financial underground.com. Keith Weinhold (00:45:49) - Nick Bruno has been super informative. Thanks so much for coming on to the show. Nick Giambruno (00:45:54) - Thank you Keith, great to be with you. Keith Weinhold (00:46:01) - Another Bitcoin criticism is its energy use. Oh, look at all the electricity that mining consumes. What a waste. But the more you learn, you find that Bitcoin miners, they often use stranded energy sources that might not get used otherwise. In fact, miners have an economic incentive to use stranded and low cost energy. Volatility in Bitcoin's price has been a real problem if you want to use it as a currency. The price for one Bitcoin peaked at almost $70,000 in late 2021, and just a year later it was under 16 K, and now the price has swelled up a lot again from that recent low. In any case, if you choose to own Bitcoin or any other crypto, please store it on a cold wallet for security. It's a small device. It's about three times the size of a thumb drive. It looks like a thumb drive, and there is a learning curve that you have to meet in order to use one. Keith Weinhold (00:47:04) - I don't own much gold or bitcoin, just a little. They both have their merits and risks like we've discussed. I'm a real estate guy. Even most gold and bitcoin proponents that I've talked with seem to agree with me that real estate is the proven wealth builder. I'm not sure if we'll ever devote another episode to Bitcoin here. I hope that today's episode at least equipped you to ask better questions, in case you want to know more about it. Today's episode had a more international than usual feel. Bitcoin has no boundaries. I'm in Ecuador and our guest Nick joined us from Argentina today. I'll be back in the US next week when I have some really important real estate trends to tell you about. Until then, I'm Keith Reinhold. Don't quit your daydream. Speaker 7 (00:47:54) - Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. Speaker 7 (00:48:09) - The host is operating on behalf of get Rich education LLC exclusively. Keith Weinhold (00:48:22) - The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building. Get rich education.com.
Brent Johnson, Jeff Deist, and Keith Weiner discuss the fate of the US Dollar at the 2023 New Orleans Investment Conference. Is there a debt level that will sink the dollar's value? Can the BRICS countries offer a better currency? Where does gold fit in?
Recently, I was invited to host a panel discussion on “The Future of Money: at the New Orleans Investment Conference, which has a well-earned reputation for attracting the world's foremost authorities on geopolitics, economics and investments. I've moderated this panel for several years running and, while the talent is elite, it has become a gathering of friendly peers who – with goodwill and respect – reunite to peel away as much of the fog obscuring the road ahead as they can, giving us a clearer view of where our currency & money is headed. As usual Danielle DiMartino Booth, Jim Rickards and Russ Gray were there. And this year we had the pleasure of welcoming Lyn Alden to the group. I'll start the replay of this panel discussion in a moment, but first let me note that this panel was just a single hour of the 5 DAYS WORTH of excellent presentations, debates, panels and workshops that just concluded at this year's New Orleans Conference. If you like the video I'm about to show you, you can purchase the replays for the ENTIRE conference at https://neworleansconference.com/tm #dollar #money #currency
The headline for the event sums up the investing atmosphere:“Not since the 1970's has the world faced such a formidable and uncertain investing environment.” It was a great time to attend the 49th annual New Orleans Investment Conference. In this episode Tim and teammate Paul Dircks share their experiences at the event. The conference focused on real assets, including real estate, oil, gas, and industrial metals. There's never been a more important time to be diversified and staying informed about global financial trends. They also discuss the potential impact of a recession, higher interest rates, and inflation on investments, as well as the n importance of understanding the people leading the companies or investments, being patient with investments, and considering the role each investment plays in your overall portfolio. Leave a positive rating and review of this podcast with just one clickWHAT TO LISTEN FOR11:18 Macroeconomic Trends and the Future of the US Dollar24:11 The Impact of Inflation and the Financial Repression on Different Classes25:13 Government Debt, Inflation, and Taxation27:35 Investment Principles for Uncertain Times CONNECT WITH USTo learn more about investment opportunities, join the Cityside Capital Investor Club.
Welcome to the KE Report Weekend Show! Since we attended the New Orleans Investment Conference this week I decided to focus the Weekend...
In this conversation, Tyler sits down with Brien Lundin, the CEO of Jefferson Financial Inc. and the host of the prestigious New Orleans Investment Conference. Brien shares insights on the current geopolitical landscape, macroeconomic forces, and the opportunities and risks they present for investors. Discover the importance of real assets, including gold and real estate, in your investment strategy. This episode is packed with valuable knowledge that will leave you inspired and ready to take your investment to the next level. ✅KEY POINTS✅ ✅ The current state of the geopolitical landscape and macroeconomic circumstances. ✅ The risks and opportunities present in the market. ✅ Case for gold and other real assets as a means of diversification and protection against potential risks. ✅ Investing is more than just making money, it's making a lasting impact! NEW ORLEANS CONFERENCE LINKS November 1 – 4, 2023 Register https://neworleansconference.com/ Special Offer https://goldnewsletter.com/elevate/ LINKS TO BOOKMARK Keep up with the Elevate Podcast: https://elevatepod.com/ Interested in investing with Tyler? Visit https://www.cfcapllc.com/ Ready to boost your web presence? Visit www.sharpwilkinson.com/ FIND BRIEN Twitter https://twitter.com/Brien_Lundin Facebook https://www.facebook.com/BrienLundin LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/brien-lundin-b37a4819/ NAMES AND BOOKS James U. Blanchard https://fee.org/articles/james-u-blanchard-iii Matt Taibbi https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-taibbi Danielle DiMartino Booth https://www.linkedin.com/in/dimartinobooth/ George Gammon https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgegammon Rick Rule https://www.linkedin.com/in/rick-rule Dominic Frisby https://twitter.com/DominicFrisby/ Konstantin Kisin https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin James U. Blanchard “Confession of a Gold Bug” https://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Gold-Bug-James-Blanchard/ Robert A. Heinlein “The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress” https://www.amazon.com/Moon-Is-Harsh-Mistress WTF Happened In 1971? https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
Brien Lundin of the Gold Newsletter and the New Orleans Investment Conference joins us for some market commentary today. Gold and silver continue to outperform this week after bond yields saw big dips and the US economy shows far fewer job openings than expected. Are consumers prepared for higher-for-longer? Or will majority of people be caught off guard with what lies ahead?