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Is Robert Kiyosaki predicting a financial apocalypse or just another economic overreaction? In this video, we unpack his recent viral post claiming a Greater Depression is coming in 2025. Kiyosaki urges investors to pour money into gold, silver, and Bitcoin—but is it wise advice or dangerous fear-mongering? We brought in certified financial planners and economic experts to get their take. Are Kiyosaki's predictions rooted in fact, or is this another “Rich Dad Prophecy” panic move? ✅ What you'll learn in this video: ➡The real risks in the U.S. economy (debt, inflation, stagflation) ➡Why experts say panic investing could do more harm than good ➡The truth about cryptocurrency, precious metals, and real estate ➡How to invest wisely without falling into fear-driven traps Don't let fear dictate your finances — get the facts first.

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Founder of the Raising Capitalists Foundation and previous co-host of The Real Estate Guys Radio show, Russell Gray, joins Keith to discuss the historical and current devaluation of the U.S. dollar, its impact on investors, and the broader economic implications. Gray highlights how the significant increase in interest rates has trapped equity in properties and affected development. He explains the shift from gold-backed currency to paper money, the role of the Federal Reserve, and the impact of the Bretton Woods Agreement.  Gray emphasizes the importance of understanding macroeconomic trends and advocates for Main Street capitalism to decentralize power and promote productivity. He also criticizes the idea of housing as a human right, arguing it leads to inflation and shortages. Resources: Connect with Russell Gray to learn more about his "Raising Capitalists" project and his plans for a new show. Follow up with Russell Gray to get a copy of the Beardsley Rummel speech transcript from 1946. follow@russellgray.com Show Notes: GetRichEducation.com/558 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  You get paid first: Text FAMILY to 66866 Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review”.  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Automatically Transcribed With Otter.ai  Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, what's the real backstory on why we have this thing called the dollar? Why it keeps getting debased? What you can do about it and when the dollar will die? It's a lesson in monetary history. And our distinguished guest is a familiar voice that you haven't heard in a while. Today on get rich education.   Mid south home buyers, I mean, they're total pros, with over two decades as the nation's highest rated turnkey provider, their empathetic property managers use your ROI as their North Star. So it's no wonder that smart investors just keep lining up to get their completely renovated income properties like it's the newest iPhone. They're headquartered in Memphis and have globally attractive cash flows and A plus rating with a better business bureau and now over 5000 houses renovated. There's zero markup on maintenance. Let that sink in, and they average a 98.9% occupancy rate, while their average renter stays more than three and a half years. Every home they offer has brand new components, a bumper to bumper, one year warranty, new 30 year roofs. And wait for it, a high quality renter. Remember that part and in an astounding price range, 100 to 180k I've personally toured their office and their properties in person in Memphis, get to know Mid South. Enjoy cash flow from day one. Start yourself right now at mid southhomebuyers.com that's mid south homebuyers.com   Russell Gray  1:54   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education.   Keith Weinhold  2:10   Welcome to GRE from St John's Newfoundland to St Augustine, Florida and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith weinholden. You are inside get rich education. It's 2025. The real estate market is changing. We'll get into that in future. Weeks today. Over the past 100 years plus, we've gone from sound money to Monopoly money, and we're talking about America's currency collapse. What comes next and how it affects you as both an investor and a citizen.   I'd like to welcome in longtime friend of the show and someone that I've personally learned from over the years, because he's a brilliant teacher, real estate investors probably haven't heard his voice as much lately, because until last year, he had been the co host of the terrific real estate guys radio show for nearly 20 years. Before we're done today, you'll learn more about what he's doing now, as he runs the Main Street capitalist platform and is also founder of the raising capitalists foundation. Hey, it's been a few years. Welcome back to GRE Russell Gray.   Russell Gray  3:19   yeah, it's fun. I actually think it's been maybe 10 years when I think about it, I remember I was at a little resort in Mexico recording with you, I think in the gym. It was just audio back then, no video.    Keith Weinhold  3:24   Yeah, I remember we're trying to get the audio right. Then I think you've been here more recently than 10 years ago. But yeah, now there's this video component. I actually have to sit up straight and comb my hair. It's ridiculous. Well, Russ, you're also a buff of monetary history. And before we discuss that, talk about the state of the real estate market today, just briefly, from your vantage point.   Russell Gray 1  3:55    I think the big story, and I'm probably not telling anybody anything they don't know, but the interest rate hike cycle that we went through this last round was quite a bit more substantial, I think, than a lot of people really appreciated, you know. And I started talking about that many years ago, because when you hit the zero bound and you have 6,7,8, years of interest rates below half a point, the change when they started that interest rate cycle from point two, 525 basis points all the way up to five and a quarter? That's a 20x move. And people might say, well, oh, you know, I go back to what Paul Volcker did way back in the day, when he took interest rates from eight or nine to 18. That was only a little bit more than double. Double is a far cry from 20x so we've never seen anything like that. Part of the fallout of that, as you know, is a lot of people wisely, and I was on the front end of cheerleading This is go get those loans refinanced and lock in that cheap money for as long as possible, because a loan will actually become an asset. The problem is, when you do that, you're kind of married to that property. Now it's not quite as bad. As being upside down in a property and you can't get out of it, but it's really hard to walk away from a two or 3% loan in a Six 7% market, because you really can't take your same payment and end up getting more house. And so that equity is kind of a little bit trapped, and that creates some opportunities, but I think that's been the big story, and then kind of the byproduct of the story. Second tier of the story was the impact it had on development, because it made it a lot harder for developers to develop, because their cost of funds and everything in that supply chain, food chain, you marry that to the 2020, COVID Supply Chain lockdown and that disruption, which, you know, you don't shut an economy down and just flick a switch and have it come back on. And so there's all of that. And then the third thing is just this tremendous uncertainty everybody has, because we just went from one extreme to another. And I think people, you know, they don't want to, like, rock the boat, they're going to kind of stay status quo for a little bit, whether they're businesses, whether they're homeowners, whether they're anybody out there that's thinking about moving them, unless life forces you to do it, you're going to try to stay status quo until things calm down. And I don't know how close we are to things calming down.   Keith Weinhold  6:13   One word I use is normalized. Both the 30 year fixed rate mortgage and the Fed funds rate are pretty close to their long term historic average. It just doesn't feel that way, because it was that rate of increase in 2022 that caught a lot of people off guard, like you touched on Well, Russ, now that we've talked about the present day, let's go back in time, and then we'll slowly bring things up to the present day. The dollar is troubled. It's worth perhaps 3% of what it was 100 years ago, but it's still around since it was established in the Coinage Act of 1792 and it's still the world reserve currency. In fact, only three currencies have survived longer than the dollar, the British pound, the Japanese yen and the Swiss franc. So talk to us about this really relentless debasement of the dollar over time, including the creation of the Fed and the Bretton Woods Agreement and all that.   Russell Gray 7:09   That's a big story, as you know, and I always like to try to break it down a little bit. One of my specialties I'd like to believe, is I speak macro and I speak Main Street. And so when I try to break macroeconomics down, I start out with, why do I even care? I mean, if I'm a main street investor, why do I even care? In 2008 as you know, is a wipeout for me. Why? Because I didn't think anything had happened in the macro I didn't think Wall Street bond market. I didn't think that affected me. One thing I really cared about was interest rates. And I had a cursory interest in the bond market. We just try to figure out where interest rates were going. But for the most part, I thought, as a main street real estate investor, I was 100% insulated. I couldn't have been more wrong, because it really does matter, because the value of the dollar, in other words, the purchasing power of the dollar, and usually you refer to that as inflation, right? If inflation is there, the dollar is losing its purchasing power, and so the higher the inflation rate, the faster you're losing that purchasing power. And you might say, well, maybe that matters to me. Maybe it does. But the people who make the money available to the mortgage community, right to the real estate community to borrow that comes out of the bond market. And so when people go to buy a bond, which is an IOU, they're going to get paid back in the currency that they lent in, in this case, dollars. And if they know, if they're making a long term investment in a long term bond, and they're going to get paid back in dollars, they're going to be worth a whole lot less when they get them back. One of the things they're going to want is compensation for that time risk, and that's called higher interest rates. Okay, so now, if you're a main street investor, and higher interest rates impact you, now you understand why you want to pay attention. Okay, so let's just start with that. And so once you understand that the currency is a derivative of money, and money used to be you mentioned the Coinage Act Keith money, which is gold, used to be synonymous with the dollar. The dollar was only a unit of measure of gold, 1/20 of an ounce. It was a unit of measure. So it's like, the way I teach people is, like, if you had a gallon of milk and you traded, I'm a farmer, and I had a lot of milk, and so everybody decided they were going to use gallons of milk as their currency. Hey, where there's a lot of gallons of milk. He's got a big refrigerator. We'll just trade gallons of milk. Hey, Keith, I really like your beef. I you know, will you sell me some, a side of beef, and I'll give you, you know, 100 gallons of milk, you know, like, Oh, that's great. Well, I can't drink all this milk, so I'm going to leave the milk on deposit at the dairy, and then later on, when I decide I want a suit of clothes, I'll say, well, that's 10 gallons of milk. So I'll give the guy 10 gallons of milk. So I just give him a coupon, a claim, a piece of paper for that gallon of milk, or 20 gallons of milk, and he can go to the dairy and pick it up, right? And so that's kind of the way the monetary system evolved, except it wasn't milk, it was gold. So now you got the dollar. Well, after a while, nobody's going to get the milk. They don't care about the milk. And so now. Now, instead of just saying, I'll give you a gallon of milk, you just say, well, I'll give you a gallon. And somebody says, Okay, that's great. I'll take a gallon. They never opened the jug up. They never realized the jug is empty. They're just trading these empty jugs that used to have milk in them. Well, that's what the paper dollar is today. It went from being a gold certificate payable to bearer on demand, a certain amount of gold, a $20 gold certificate, what looks exactly like a $20 FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE. Today they look exactly the same, except one says FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE, which is an IOU backed by nothing, and the other one said gold certificate, which was payable to bearer on demand, real money. So my point is, is he got money which is a derivative of the productivity, the beef, the soot, the milk, whatever, right? That's the real capital. The real capital is the goods and services we all want. Money is where we store the value of whatever it is we created until we want to trade it for something somebody else created later. And it used to be money and currency were one in the same, but now we've separated that. So now all we do is trade empty gallons, which are empty pieces of paper, and that's currency. So those are derivatives, and the last derivative of that chain is credit. And you had Richard Duncan on your show more than once, and he is famous for kind of having this term. We don't normally have capitalism. We have creditism, right? Everything is credit. Everything is claims on wealth, but it's not real wealth, and it's just when we look at what's going on with our current administration and the drive to become a productive rather than a financialized society, again, as part of this uncertainty that everybody has. Because this is not just a subtle little adjustment on the same course. This is like, No, we're we're going down a completely different path. But fundamentally, your system operates on this currency that is flowing through it, like the blood flowing through your body. And if the blood is bad, your body's sick. And right now, our currency is bad, and so it creates problems, not just for us, but all around the world. And now we're exacerbating that. And I'm not saying it's bad. In fact, I think it's actually it's actually good, but change is what it is, right? I mean, it can be really good to go to the gym and work out before we started recording, you talked about your commitment to fitness, and that if you stop working out, you get unfit, and it's hard to start up again. Well, we've allowed our economy to get very unfit. Now we're trying to get fit again, and it's going to be painful. We're going to be sore, but if we stick with it, I think we can actually kind of save this thing. So I don't know what that's going to mean for the dollar ultimately, or if we end up going to something else, but right now, to your point, the dollar is definitely the big dog still, but I think it's probably even more under attack today than it's ever been, and so it's just something I think every Main Street investor needs to pay attention to.    Keith Weinhold  12:46   And it was really that 1913 creation of the Fed, where the Fed's mandates really didn't begin to take effect until 1914 that accelerated this slide in the dollar. Prior to that, it was really just periods of war, like, for example, the Civil War, where we had inflation rise, but then after wars abated, the dollar's strength returned, but that ceased to happen last century.   Russell Gray  13:11   I think there's a much bigger story there. So when we founded the country, we established legal money in the Coinage Act of 1792 we got gold and silver and a specific unit of measure of gold, a specific unit, measure of silver was $1 and that's what money was constitutionally. Alexander Hamilton advocated for the first central bank and got it, but it was issued by Charter, which meant that it was operated by the permission of the Congress. It wasn't institutionalized. It wasn't embedded in the Constitution. It was just something that was granted, like a license. You have a charter to be able to run a bank. When that initial charter came up for renewal, Congress goes, now we're not going to renew it. Well, of course, that made the bankers really upset, because bankers have a pretty good gig, right? They get to just loan people money. They don't have to do any real work, and then they make money on just kind of arbitraging, you know, other people's money. Savers put their money in, and they borrowed the money out, and then they with fractional reserve, they're able to magnify that. So it's, it's kind of a cool gig. And so what happened? Then he had the first central bank, so then they got the second central bank, and the second central bank was also issued by charter this time when it came up for renewal, Congress goes, Yeah, let's renew it, right? Because the bankers knew we got to go buy a few congressmen if we want to keep this thing going. But President Andrew Jackson said, No, not going to happen. And it was a big battle. Is a famous quote of him just calling these bankers a brood of vipers. And I'm going to put you down. And God help me, I will, right? I mean, it was like intense fact, I do believe he got shot at one point. I think he died from lead poisoning, because he never got the bullet out. So, you know, when you go to up against the bankers, it's not pretty, but he succeeded. He was the last president that paid off all the debt, balanced budget, paid off all the debt, and we got kind of back on sound money. Well, then a little while later, said, Okay, we're going to need, like, something major, and this would. I should put on. I got my, this is my hat, right now, I'll kind of put it on. This is my, my tin foil hat. Okay? And so I put this on when I kind of go down the rabbit trail a little bit. No, I'm not saying this is what happened, but it wouldn't surprise me, right? Because I know that war is profitable, and so sometimes, you know, your comment was, hey, there's the bank, and then there was, you know, the war, or there's the war, then there's a bank, which comes first the chicken or the egg. I think there's an article where Henry Ford and Thomas Edison went to Congress. I think it was December. The article was published New York Tribune, December 4. I think 1921 you can look it up, New York Tribune, front page article   Keith Weinhold  15:38   fo those of you in the audio only. Russ started donning a tin foil looking hat here about one minute ago.    Russell Gray  15:45   I did, yeah, so I put it on. Just so fair warning. You know, I may go a little conspiratorial, but the reason I do that is I just, I think we've seen enough, just in current, modern history and politics, in the age of AI and software and freedom of speech and new media, there's a lot of weird stuff going on out there, but a lot of stuff that we thought was really weird a little while ago has turned out to be more true than we thought. When you look back in history, and you kind of read the official narrative and you wonder, you kind of read between the lines. You go, oh, maybe some stuff went on here. So anyway, the allegation that Ford made, smart guy, Thomas Edison, smart guy. And they go to Congress, and they go, Hey, we need to get the gold out of the banker's hands, because gold is money, and we need money not to revolve around gold, because the bankers control gold. They control the money, and they make profits, his words, not mine, by starting wars, because he was very upset about World War One, which happened. We got involved right after Fed gets formed in 1913 World War One starts in 1914 the United States sits off in the background and sells everybody, everything. It collects a bunch of gold, and then enters at the end and ends it all. And that big influx created the roaring 20s, as we all know, which ended big boom to big bust. And that cycle, which then a crisis that created, potentially a argument for why the government should have more control, right? So you kind of go down this path. So we ended up in 1865 with President Lincoln suppressing states rights and eventually creating an unconstitutional income tax and then creating an unconstitutional currency. That's what Abraham Lincoln did. And then on the back end of that, you know, it didn't end well for him, and I don't know why, but all I know is that we had a financial crisis in 1907 and the solution to that was the Aldrich plan, which was basically a monopoly on money. It's called a money trust. And Charles Lindbergh, SR was railing against it, as were many people at the time, going, No, this is terrible. So they renamed the Aldrich plan the Federal Reserve Act. And instead of going for a bank charter, they went for a constitutional amendment, and they got it in the 16th Amendment, and that's where we got the IRS. That's where we got the income tax, which was only supposed to be 7% only affect like the top one or 2% of earners, right? And that's where we got, you know, the Federal Reserve. That's where all that was born. Since that happened, to your point, the dollar has been on with a slight little rise up in the 20s, which, you know, there's a whole thing about whether that caused the crash or not. But at the end of the day, if you go look at St Louis Fed, which you go look at all the time, and you just look at the long term trend of the dollar, it's terrible. And the barometer, that's gold, right? $20 of gold in 1913 and 1933 and then 42 in 1971 or two, whatever it was, three, and then eventually as high as 850 but at the turn of the century, this century, it was $250 so at $2,500 it would have lost 90% in the 21st Century. The dollars lost 90% in the 21st Century, just to 2500 that's profound to go. That's right, it already lost more than 90% from $20 to 250 so it lost 90% and then 90% of the 10% that was left. And that's where we're at. We're worse than that. Today, no currency, as far as I understand, I've been told this. Haven't done the homework, but it's my understanding, no currency in the history of the world has ever survived that kind of debasement. So I think a lot of people who are watching are like, okay, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. And then the big question is, is when that when comes? What does the transition look like? What rises in its place? And then you look at things like a central bank digital currency, which is not like Bitcoin, it's not a crypto, it's a centrally controlled currency run by the central bank. If we get that, I would argue that's not good for privacy and security. Could be Bitcoin would be better. I would argue, could go back to gold backing, which I would say is better than what we have, or we could get something nobody's even thought of. I don't know. We don't know, but I do think we're at the end of the life cycle. Historically, all things being equal. And I think all the indication with a big run up of gold, gold is screaming something's broken. It's just screaming it right now, not just because the price is up, but who's buying it. It's just central banks.   Keith Weinhold  20:12   Central banks are doing most of the buying, right? It's not individual investors going to a coin shop. So that's really screaming, telling you that people are concerned. People are losing their faith in giving loans to the United States for sure. And Russ, as we talk about gold, and it's important link to the dollar over time, you mentioned how they wanted it, to get it out of the bank's hands for a while. Of course, there was also a period of time where it was illegal for Americans to own gold. And then we had this Bretton Woods Agreement, which was really important as well, where we ended up violating promises that had to do with gold again. So can you speak to us some more about that? Because a lot of people just don't understand what happened at Bretton Woods.   Russell Gray  20:56   What happened is we had the big crash in 1929 and the net result of that was, in 1933 we got executive order 6102 In fact, I have a picture of it framed, and that was in the wake of that in 1933 and so what Franklin Delano Roosevelt did in signing that document, which was empowered by a previous act of Congress, basically let him confiscate all The money. It'd be like right now if, right now, you know, President Trump signed an executive order and said, You have to take all your cash, every all the cash that you have out of your wallet. You have to send it all, take it into the bank, and they're going to give you a Chuck E Cheese token, right? And if you don't do it, if you do it, it's a $500,000 fine in 10 years in prison. Right? Back then it was a $10,000 fine, which was twice the price of the average Home huge fine, plus jail time. That's how severe it was, okay? So they confiscated all the money. That happened in 33 okay? Now we go off to war, and we enter the war late again. And so we have the big manufacturing operation. We're selling munitions and all kinds of supplies to everybody, all over the world, right? And we're just raking the gold and 20,000 tons of gold. We got all the gold. We got the biggest army now, we got the biggest bomb, we got the biggest economy. We got the strongest balance sheet. Well, I mean, you know, we went into debt for the war, but, I mean, we had a lot of gold. So now everybody else is decimated. We're the big dog. Everybody knows we're the big dog. Nine states shows up in New Hampshire Bretton Woods, and they have this big meeting with the world, and they say, Hey guys, new sheriff in town. Britain used to be the world's reserve currency, but today we're going to be the world's reserve currency. And so this was the new setup. But it's okay. It's okay because our dollar is as good as gold. It's backed by gold, and so anytime you want foreign nations, you can just bring your dollars to us and we'll give you the gold, no problem. And everyone's like, okay, great. What are you going to say? Right? You got the big bomb, you got the big army. Everybody needs you for everything to live like you're not going to say no. So they said, Yes, of course, the United States immediately. I've got a speech that a guy named Beardsley Rummel did. Have you ever heard me talk about this before? Keith, No, I've never heard about this. So Beardsley Rummel was the New York Fed chair when all this was happening. And so he gave a speech to the American Bar Association in 1945 and I got a transcript of it, a PDF transcript of it from 1946 and basically he goes, Look, income taxes are obsolete. We don't need income tax anymore because we can print money, because we're off the gold standard and we have no accountability. We just admitted it, just totally admitted it, and said the only reason we have income tax is to manipulate behavior, is to redistribute wealth, is to force people to do what we want them to do, punish things and reward others, right? Just set it plain language. I have a transcript of the speech. You can get a copy of you send an email to Rummel R U, M, L@mainstreetcapitalist.com I'll get it to you. So it's really, really interesting. So he admitted it. So we went along in the 40s and the 50s, and, you know, we had the only big manufacturing you know, because everybody else is still recovering from the war. Everything been bombed to smithereens, and we're spending money and doing all kinds of stuff. And having the 50s, it was great, right, right up until the mid 60s. So the mid 60s, it's like, Okay, we got a problem. And Charles de Gaulle, who was the president of France at the time, went to a meeting. And there's a YouTube video, but you can see it, he basically told the world, hey, I don't think the United States is doing a good job managing this world's reserve currency. I don't think they've got the gold. I think they printed too much money. I think that we should start to go redeem our dollars and get the gold. That was pretty forward thinking. And he created a run on the bank. And at the same time, we passed the Coinage Act in 1965 and took all the silver out of the people's money. So we took the gold in 33 and then we took the silver in 65 right? Because we got Vietnam and the Great Society, welfare, all these things were going on in the 60s. We're just going broke. Meanwhile, our gold supply went from 20,000 tons down to eight and Richard. Nixon is like, whoa, time out. Like, this is bad. And so we had inflation in 1970 August 15, 1971 year before August 15, 1971 1970 Nixon writes an executive order and freezes all prices and all wages. It became illegal by presidential edict for a private business to give their employee a raise or to raise their prices to the customers.    Keith Weinhold  25:30   It's almost if that could happen price in theUnited States of America, right?    Russell Gray  25:36   And inflation was 4.4% and it was a national emergency like today. I mean, you know, a few years ago, like three or four years ago, we if we could get it down 4.4% it'd be Holly. I'd be like a celebration. That was bad. And so that's what happened. So a year later, that didn't work. It was a 90 day thing. It was a disaster. And so in a year later, August 15, 1971 Nixon came on live TV after Gunsmoke. I think it was, and I was old enough I'm watching TV on a Sunday night I watched it. Wow. So I live, that's how old I am. So it's a lot of this history, not the Bretton Woods stuff, but from like 1960 2,3,4, forward. I remember I was there.    Keith Weinhold  26:13   Yeah, that you remember the whole Nixon address on television. We should say it for the listener that doesn't know. Basically the announcement Nixon made, he said, was a temporary measure, is that foreign nations can no longer redeem their dollars for gold. He broke the promise that was made at Bretton Woods in about 1945   Russell Gray  26:32   Yeah. And then gold went from $42 up to 850 and a whole series of events that have led to where we're at today were put in place to cover up the fact that the dollar was failing. We had climate emergency. We were headed towards the next global Ice Age. We had an existential threat in two different diseases that hit one right after the other. First one was the h1 n1 flu, swine flu, and then the next thing was AIDS. And so we had existential pandemic, two of them. We also had a oil shortage crisis. We were going to run out of fossil fuel by the year 2000 we had to do all kinds of very public, visible, visceral things that we would all see. You could only buy gas odd even days, like, if your license plate ended in an odd number, you could go on these days, and if it ended on an even number, you could go on the other days. And so we had that. We lowered our national speed limit down to 55 miles an hour. We created the EPA and all these different agencies under Jimmy Carter to try to regulate and manage all of this crisis. Prior to that, Nixon sent Kissinger over to China, and we opened up trade relations. And we'd been in Vietnam to protect the world from communism because it was so horrible. And then in the wake of that, we go over to Communist China, Chairman Mao and open up trade relations. Why we needed access to their cheap labor to suck up all the inflation. And we went over to the Saudis, and we cut the petro dollar deal. Why? Because we needed the float. We needed some place for all these excess dollars that we had created to get sucked up. And so they got sucked up in trading the largest commodity in the world, energy. And the deal was, hey, Saudis, here's the deal. You like your kingdom? Well, we got the big bomb. We got the big army. You're going to rule the roost in the in the Middle East, and we'll protect you. All you got to do is make sure you sell all your oil in dollars and dollars only. And they're like, Well, what if we're selling oil to China, or what if we're selling oil to Japan? Can they pay in yen? Nope, they got to sell yen. Buy dollars. Well, what do we do with all these dollars? Buy our treasuries. Okay, so what if I got this? Yeah, and so that was the petrodollar system. And the world looked at everything went on, and the world is like, Hmm, the United States coming back to Europe, and Charles de Gaulle, they're like, the United States is not handling this whole dollar thing real well. We need an alternative. What if all of us independent nations in Europe got together and created a common currency? We don't want to be like one country, like the United States, but we want to be like an economic union. So let's create a current let's call it the euro. And they started that process in the 70s, but they didn't get it done till 99 and so they get it done in 99 as soon as they get it done, this guy named Saddam Hussein goes, Hey, I'm now the big dog here. I got the fourth largest army in the world. I'm here in, you know, big oil producing nation. Let's trade in the euro. Let's get off the dollar. Let's do oil in the euro. And he's gone. I'm not sure I should put my hat back on. I'm not sure, but somehow we went into Afghanistan and took a hard left and took this guy out.   Keith Weinhold  29:44   Some credence to this. Yes, yeah, so. But with that said,   Russell Gray  29:47   you know, we ended up with the Euro taking about 20% of the global trade market from the United States, which is about where it sits today. And the United States used to be up over 80% and now we're down below 60% still. The Big Dog by triple and the euro is not in a position to supplant the US, but I think China, whose claim to fame is looking at other people's technology and models and copying it, looked at what the United States did to become the dominant economic force, and I think they've systematically been copying it. I wrote a report on this way back in 2013 when I started really paying attention to it and began to chronicle all the things that they were doing, this big D dollarization movement that I think still has legs. It's the BRICS movement. It's all the central banks buying gold. It's the bilateral trade agreements where people are doing business outside the dollar. There's been not just that, but also putting together the infrastructure, right? The Asian Infrastructure Bank is an alternative to the IMF looking, if you have you read Confessions of an economic hitman. No. Okay, so this is a guy that used to work in the government, I think, CIA or something, and he would go down and he'd cut deals with leaders of countries to get them to borrow from the United States to put in key infrastructure so they could trade with the US. And then, of course, if they defaulted, then the US owned that in the infrastructure. You can look it up. His name is Perkins, right. Look it up confessions of economic hit now, but you see China doing the same thing. China's got their Belt and Road Initiative. And you go through, and if you want to trade with China on that route, you have traded, you're gonna have to have infrastructure. You can eat ports. You're gonna need terminals for distribution. But you, Oh, you don't have the money. We'll loan it to you, and we'll loan it to you and you want. Now we're creating demand for you want, and we also are enslaving borrower servant to the lender. We're beginning to enslave these other nations under the guise of helping them by financing their growth so they can do business with us. It's the same thing the United States did and Shanghai Gold Exchange, as opposed to the London Bullion exchange. So all of the key pieces of infrastructure that were put in place to facilitate Western hegemony in the financial markets the Chinese have been systematically putting in place with bricks, and so there's a reason we're in this big trade war right now. We recognize that they had started to get in a position where they were actually a real threat, and we got to cut their legs out from underneath them before they get any stronger. Again, I should put my hat back on. Nobody's calling me up and telling me, I'm just reading between the lines. Sure,   Keith Weinhold  32:23   there certainly are more competitors to the dollar now. And can you imagine what rate of inflation that we would have had if we had not outsourced our labor and productivity over to a low wage place like China in the east? Russ and I have been talking about the long term debasement of the dollar and why. More on that when we come back, including what Russ is up to today. You're listening to get rich education. Our guest is Russell Gray. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold, the same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group and MLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your pre qual and even chat with President Chaley Ridge personally while it's on your mind, start at Ridge lendinggroup.com that's Ridge lendinggroup.com. You know what's crazy? 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This is Rich Dad advisor, Garrett Sutton. You're listening to the always valuable. Get rich education with Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.    Keith Weinhold  34:52   Welcome back to get rich education. We're talking with the main street capitalists Russell gray about this long term debasement of the dollar. It's an. Inevitable. It's one of the things we actually can forecast with pretty good predictability that the dollar will continue to debase. It's one of the few almost guarantees that we have in investing. So we can think about how we want to play that Russ one thing I wonder about is, did we have to completely de peg the dollar from gold? Couldn't we have just diluted it where we could instead say, Well, hey, now, instead of just completely depegging the dollar from gold, we could say, well, now it takes 10 times as many dollars as it used to to redeem it for an ounce of gold. Did it make it more powerful that we just completely de pegged it 100%   Russell Gray  35:36   it would disempower the monopoly. Right? In other words, I think that the thing from the very beginning, was scripted to disconnect from the accountability of gold, which is what sound money advocates want. They want some form of independent Accountability. Gold is like an audit to a financial system. If you're the bankers and you're running the program, the last thing in the world you want is a gold standard, because it limits your ability to print money out of thin air and profit from that. So I don't think the people who are behind all of this are, in no way, shape or form, interested in doing anything that's going to limit their power or hold them accountable. They want just the opposite. I think if they could wave a magic wand and pick their solution to the problem, it would be central bank digital currency, which would give them ultimate control. Yeah. And it wouldn't surprise me if we maybe, perhaps, were on a path where some crises were going to converge, whether it's opportunistic, meaning that the crisis happened on its own, and quote Rahm Emanuel and whoever he was quoting, you know, never let a good crisis go to waste, and you're just opportunistic, or, you know, put the conspiracy theory hat on, and maybe these crises get created in order to facilitate the power grab. I don't know. It really doesn't matter what the motives are or how it happens at the end of the day, it's what happens. It happened in 33 it happened in 60. In 71 it's what happens. And so it's been a systematic de pegging of any form of accountability. I mean, we used to have a budget ceiling. We used to talk about now it's just like, it's routine. You blow right through it, right, right. There's you balance. I mean, when's the last time you even had a budget? Less, less, you know, much less anything that looked like a valid balanced budget amendment. So I think there's just no accountability other than the voting booth. And, you know, I think maybe you could make the argument that whether you like Trump or not, the public's apparent embrace of him, show you that the main street and have a lot of faith in Main Street. I think Main Street is like, you know what? This is broken. I don't know what's how to fix it, but somebody just needs to go in and just tear this thing down and figure out a new plant. Because I think if you anybody paying attention, knows that this perpetual debasement, which is kind of the theme of the show is it creates haves and have nots. Guys like you who understand how to use real estate to short the dollar, especially when you marry it to gold, which is one of my favorite strategies to double short the dollar, can really magnify the power of inflation to pull more wealth onto your balance sheet. Problem is the people who aren't on that side of the coin are on the other side of the coin, and so the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. Well, the first order of business in a system we can't control is help as many people be on the rich get richer. That's why we had the get rich show, right? Let's help other people get rich. Because if I'm the only rich guy in the room, all the guns are pointed at me, right? I wanted everybody as rich as possible. I think Trump and Kiyosaki wrote about that in their book. Why we want you to be rich, right? When everybody's prospering, it's it's better, it's safer, you have people to trade with and whatnot, but we have eviscerated the middle class because industry has had to go access cheap labor markets in order to compensate for this inflation. And you know, you talk about the Fed mandate, which is 2% inflation, price inflation, 2% so if you say something that costs $1 today, a year from now, is going to cost $1 too, you think, well, maybe that's not that bad. But here's the problem, the natural progression of Business and Technology is to lower the cost, right? So you have something cost $1 today, and because somebody's using AI and internet and automation and robots and all this technology, right? And the cost, they could really sell it for 80 cents. And so the Fed looks at and goes, Let's inflate to $1.02 that's not two cents of inflation. That's 22 cents of inflation. And so there's hidden inflation. The benefits of the gains in productivity don't show up in the CPI, but it's like deferred maintenance on an apartment building. You can make your cash flow look great if you're not setting anything aside for the inevitable day when that roof is going to go out and that parking lot is going to need to be repaved, right? And you don't know how far out you are until you get there and you're like, wow, I'm really short, and I think that we have been experiencing for decades. The theft of the benefit of our productivity gains, and we're not just a little bit out of position. We're way out of position. That's   Keith Weinhold  40:07   a great point. Like I had said earlier, imagine what the rate of inflation would be if we hadn't outsourced so much of our labor and productivity to low cost China. And then imagine what the rate of inflation would be as well, if you would factor in all of this increased productivity and efficiency, the natural tendencies of which are to make prices go lower as society gets more productive, but instead they've gone higher. So when you adjust for some of these factors, you just can't imagine what the true debased purchasing power of the dollar is. It's been happening for a long time. It's inevitable that it's going to continue to happen in the future. So this has been a great chat about the history and us understanding what the powers that be have done to debase our dollar. It's only at what rate we don't know. Russ, tell us more about what you're doing today. You're really out there more as a champion for Main Street in capitalism.   Russell Gray  41:04   I mean, 20 years with Robert and the real estate guys, and it was fantastic. I loved it. I went through a lot, obviously, in 2008 and that changed me a little bit. Took me from kind of being a blocking and tackling, here's how you do real estate, and to really understanding macro and going, you know, it doesn't matter. You can do like I did, and you build this big collection. Big collection of properties and you lose it all in a moment because you don't understand macro. So I said, Okay, I want to champion that cause. And so we did that. And then we saw in the 2012 JOBS Act, the opportunity for capital raisers to go mainstream and advertise for credit investors. And I wrote a report then called the new law breaks Wall Street monopoly. And I felt like that was going to be a huge opportunity, and we pioneered that. But then after my late wife died, and I had a chance to spend some time alone during COVID, and I thought, life is short. What do I really want to accomplish before I go? And then I began looking at what was going on in the world. I see now a couple of things that are both opportunities and challenges or causes to be championed. And one is the mega trend that I believe the world is going you know, some people call it a fourth turning whatever. I don't consider that kind of we have to fall off a cliff as Destiny type of thing to be like cast in stone. But what I do see is that people are sick and tired of monopolies. We're sick and tired of big tech, we're sick and tired of big media, we're sick and tired of big government. We're sick and tired of big corporations, we don't want it, and big banks, right? So you got the rise of Bitcoin, you got people trying to get out from underneath the Western hegemony, as we've been talking about decentralization of everything. Our country was founded on the concept of decentralization, and so people don't understand that, right? It used to be everything was centralized. All powers in the king. Real Estate meant royal property. That's what real estate it's not like real asset, like tangible it's royal estate. It's royal property. Everything belonged to the king, and you just got to work it like a serf. And then you got to keep 75% in your produce, and you sent 25% you sent 25% through all the landlords, the land barons, and all the people in the hierarchy that fed on running things for the king, but you didn't own anything. Our founder set that on, turn that upside down, and said, No, no, no, no, no, it's not the king that's sovereign. It's the individual. The individual is sovereign. It isn't the monarchy, it's the individual states. And so we're going to bring the government, small. The central government small has only got a couple of obligations, like protect the borders, facilitate interstate commerce, and let's just have one common currency so that we can do business together. Other than that, like, the state's just going to run the show. Of course, Lincoln kind of blew that up, and it's gotten a lot worse after FDR, so I feel like we're under this big decentralization movement, and I think Main Street capitalism is the manifestation of that. If you want to decentralize capitalism, the gig economy, if you want to be a guy like you, and you can run your whole business off your laptop with a microphone and a camera, you know, in today's day and age with technology, people have tasted the freedom of decentralization. So I think the rise of the entrepreneur, I think the ability to go build a real asset portfolio and get out of the casinos of Wall Street. I think right now, if we are successful in bringing back these huge amounts of investment, Trump's already announced like two and a half or $3 trillion of investment, people are complaining, oh, the world is selling us. Well, they're selling stocks and they're selling but they're putting the money actually into creating businesses here in the United States that's going to create that primary driver, as you well know, in real estate, that's going to create the secondary and tertiary businesses, and the properties they're going to use all kinds of Main Street opportunity are going to grow around that. I lived in Silicon Valley, when a company would get funded, it wasn't just a company that prospered, it was everything around that company, right? All these companies. I remember when Apple started. I remember when Hewlett Packard, it was big, but it got a lot bigger, right there. I watched all that happen in Silicon Valley. I think that's going to happen again. I think we're at the front end of that. And so that's super exciting. Wave. The second thing that is super important is this raising capitalist project. And the reason I'm doing it is because if we don't train our next generation in the principles of capitalism and the freedom that it how it decentralizes Their personal economy, and they get excited about Bitcoin, but that's not productive. I'm not putting it down. I'm just saying it's not productive. You have to be productive. You want to have a decentralized currency. Yes, you want to decentralize productivity. That's Main Street capitalism. If kids who never get a chance to be in the productive economy get to vote at 1819, 2021, 22 before they've ever earned a paycheck, before they have any idea, never run a business. Somebody tells them, hey, those guys that have all that money and property, they cheated. It's not fair. We need to take from them. We need to limit them, not thinking, Oh, well, if I do that, when I get to be there, that what I'm voting for is going to get on me. Right now, Keith, there are kids in ninth grade who are going to vote for your next president, right?   Keith Weinhold  45:56   And they think capitalism is evil. This is part of what you're doing with the raising capitalists project, helping younger people think differently. Russ, I have one last thing to ask you. This has to do with the capitalism that you're championing on your platforms now. And real estate, I continue to see sometimes I get comments on my YouTube channel, especially maybe it's more and more people increasingly saying, Hey, I think housing should be a human right. So talk to us about that. And maybe it's interesting, Russ, if I take the other side of it and play devil's advocate, people who think housing is a human right, they say something like, the idea is that housing, you know, it's a fundamental need, just like food and clean water and health care are without stable housing. It's incredibly hard for a person to access opportunities like work and education or health care or participate meaningfully in society at all. So government ought to provide housing for everybody. What are your thoughts there?   Russell Gray  46:54   Well, it's inherently inflationary, which is the root cause of the entire problem. So anytime you create consumption without production, you're going to have more consumers than producers, and so you're going to have more competition for those goods. The net, net truth of what happens in that scenario are shortages everywhere. Every civilization that's ever tried any form of system where people just get things for free because they need them, end up with shortages in poverty. It doesn't lift everybody. It ruins everything. I mean, that's not conjecture. That's history, and so that's just the way it works. And if you just were to land somebody on a desert island and you had an economy of one, they're going to learn really quick the basic principles of capitalism, which is production always precedes consumption, always 100% of the time, right? If you're there on that desert island and you don't hunt fish or gather, you don't eat, right? You don't get it because, oh, it's a human right to have food. Nope, it's a human right to have the right to go get food. Otherwise, you're incarcerated, you have to have the freedom of movement to go do something to provide for yourself, but you cannot allow people to consume without production. So everybody has to produce. And you know, if you go back to the Plymouth Rock experiment, if you're familiar with that at all, yeah, yeah. So you know, just for anybody who doesn't know, when the Pilgrims came over here in the 1600s William Bradford was governor, and they tried it. They said, Hey, we're here. Let's Stick Together All for one and one for all. Here's the land. Everybody get up every day and work. Everybody works, and everybody eats. They starved. And so he goes, Okay, guys, new plan. All right, you wine holds. See this little plot of land, that's yours. You work it. You can eat whatever you produce. Over there, you grace. You're going to do yours and Johnson's, you're going to do yours, right? Well, what happened is now everybody got up and worked, and they created more than enough for their own family, and they had an abundance. And the abundance was created out of their hunger. When they went to serve their own needs, they created abundance forever others. That's the premise of capitalism. It's not the perfect system. There is no perfect system. We live in a world where human beings have to work before they get to eat. When I say eat, it could be having a roof over their head. It could be having clothes. It could be going on vacation. It could be having a nice car. It could be getting health care. It doesn't matter what it is, whatever it is you need. You have the right, or should have, the right, in a free system to go earn that by being productive, but the minute somebody comes and says, Oh, you worked, and I'm going to take what you produced and give it to somebody else who didn't, that's patently unfair, but economically, it's disastrous, because it incentivizes people not to work, which creates less production, more consumption. I have another analogy with sandwich makers, but you can imagine that if you got a group if you got a group of people making sandwiches, one guy starts creating coupons for sandwiches. Well then if somebody says, Okay, well now we got 19 people providing for 20. That's okay, but then all the guys making sandwiches. Why making sandwiches? I'm gonna get the coupon business pretty soon. You got 18 guys doing coupons, only two making sandwiches. Not. Have sandwiches to go around all the sandwiches cost tons of coupons because we got way more financialization than productivity, right? That's the American economy. We have to fix that. We can't have people making money by just trading on other people's productivity. We have to have people actually being productive. This is what I believe the administration is trying to do, rebuild the middle class, rebuild that manufacturing base, make us a truly productive economy, and then you don't have to worry about these things, right? We're going to create abundance. And if you don't have the inflation is which is coming from printing money out of thin air and giving to people who don't produce, then housing, all sudden, becomes affordable. It's not a problem. Health care becomes affordable. Everything becomes affordable because you create abundance, because everybody's producing the system is fundamentally broken. Now we have to learn how to profit in it in its current state, which is what you teach people how to do. We also have to realize that it's not sustainable. We're on an unsustainable path, and we're probably nearing that event horizon, the path of no return, where the system is going to break. And the question is, is, how are you going to be prepared for it when it happens? Number two, are you going to be wise enough to advocate when you get a chance to cast a vote or make your voice heard for something that's actually going to create prosperity and freedom versus something that's going to create scarcity and oppression? And that's the fundamental thing that we have to master as a society. We got to get to our youth, because they're the biggest demographic that can blow the thing up, and they're the ones that have been being indoctrinated the worst.   Keith Weinhold  51:29   Yes, Fed Chair Jerome Powell himself said that we live in a economic system today that is unsustainable. Yes, the collectivism we touched on quickly descends into the tyranny of the majority. And in my experience, historically, the success of public housing projects has been or to mixed at best, residents often don't respect the property when they don't have an equity stake in it or even a security deposit tied up in it, and blight and high crime rates have often followed with these public housing projects. When you go down that path of making housing as a human right, like you said earlier, you have a right to go procure housing for yourself, just not to ask others to pay for it for you. Well, Russ, this has been great. It's good to have your voice back on the show. Here again, here on a real estate show. If people want to connect with you, continue to see what you've been up to and the good projects that you're working on, promoting the virtues of capitalism. What's the best way for them to do that?   Russell Gray  52:31   I think just send an email to follow at Russell Gray, R, U, S, S, E, L, L, G, R, A, y.com, let you know where I am on social media. I'll let you know when I put out new content. I'll let you know when I'm a guest on somebody somebody's show and I'm on the cusp of getting my own show finally launched. I've been doing a lot of planning to get that out, but I'm excited about it because I do think, like I said, The time is now, and I think the marketplace is ripe, and I do speak Main Street and macro, and I hope I can add a nuance to the conversation that will add value to people.   Keith Weinhold  53:00   Russ, it's been valuable as always. Thanks so much for coming back onto the show. Thanks, Keith.   Yeah, terrific, historic outline from Russ about the long term decline of the dollar. It's really a fresh reminder and motivator to keep being that savvy borrower. Of course, real estate investors have access to borrow giant sums of dollars and short the currency that lay people do not. In fact, lay people don't even understand that it's a viable strategy at all. Like he touched on, Russ has really been bringing an awareness about how decentralization is such a powerful force that reshapes society. In fact, he was talking about that the last time that I saw him in person a few months ago. Notably, he touched on Nixon era wage and price controls. Don't you find it interesting? Fascinating, really, how a few weeks ago, Trump told Walmart not to pass tariff induced price increases onto their customers. Well, that's a form of price control that we're seeing today to our point, when we had the father of Reaganomics, David Stockman here on the show, five weeks ago, tariffs are already government intervention into the free market, and then a president telling private companies how to set their prices, that is really strong government overreach. I mean, I can't believe that more people aren't talking about this. Maybe that's just because this cycle started with Walmart, and that's just doesn't happen to be a company that people feel sorry for. Hey, well, I look forward to meeting you in person in Miami in just four days, as I'll be a faculty member for when we kick off the terrific real estate guys Investor Summit and see and really getting to know you, because we're going to spend nine days together. Teaching, learning and having a great time on a cruise ship in the Caribbean. Until then, I'm your host. 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From time to time I am contacted by someone who says they have an interesting and thought provoking guest who would be perfect for Unstoppable Mindset. Since I am of the opinion that everyone has a story within themselves worth telling I always work to learn more about the guest. Such was the case when I was contacted about our guest this time, Dre Baldwin. Dre and I had an initial conversation and I invited him to appear as a guest. I must say that he more than exceeded my expectations.   Dre grew up in Philadelphia. He wanted to do something with sports and tried out various options until he discovered Basketball in high school. While he wasn't considered overly exceptional and only played one year in high school he realized that Basketball was the sport for him.   Dre went to Penn State and played all four of his college years. Again, while he played consistently and reasonably well, he was not noticed and after college he was not signed to a professional team. He worked at a couple of jobs for a time and then decided to try to get noticed for basketball by going to a camp where he could be seen by scouts and where he could prove he had the talent to make basketball a profession. As he will tell us, eventually he did get a contract to play professionally. Other things happened along the way as you will hear. Dre discovered Youtube and the internet and began posting basketball tips which became popular.   While playing basketball professionally he also started blogging, posting videos and eventually he began selling video basketball lessons online. His internet business grew and by 2015 after playing basketball he decided to leave the sport and open his own business called, Work On Your Game Inc.   His business has given him the time to author 35 books, deliver 4 TDX talks, create thousands of videos and coach others. Dre and I talk about such concepts as discipline, mindset and the value of consistency. Our conversation will provide many useful insights and ideas you and all of us can use.       About the Guest:   As CEO and Founder of Work On Your Game Inc., Dre Baldwin has given 4 TEDxTalks on Discipline, Confidence, Mental Toughness & Personal Initiative and has authored 35 books. He has appeared in national campaigns with Nike, Finish Line, Wendy's, Gatorade, Buick, Wilson Sports, STASH Investments and DIME magazine.    Dre has published over 8,000 videos to 142,000+ subscribers, his content being consumed over 103 million times.    Dre's daily Work On Your Game MasterClass has amassed over 2,900 episodes and more than 7.3 million downloads.    In just 5 years, Dre went from the end of his high school team's bench to a 9-year professional basketball career. He played in 8 countries including Lithuania, Germany, Montenegro, Slovakia and Germany.    Dre invented his Work On Your Game framework as a "roadmap in reverse" to help professionals with High Performance, Consistency and Results.    A Philadelphia native, Dre lives in Miami.   Ways to connect with Dre:   http://Instagram.com/DreBaldwin http://YouTube.com/Dreupt https://www.facebook.com/WorkOnYourGameUniversity http://LinkedIn.com/in/DreAllDay http://X.com/DreAllDay http://TikTok.com/WorkOnYourGame       About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! 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The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Hi again. Welcome to another edition of unstoppable mindset. Our goal in unstoppable mindset is to show you that, in fact, you are most likely more unstoppable than you think you are, at least that's the goal. Is to try to get people to believe that it's been fun talking to a lot of people about that, talking to people about the fact that they show that they're more unstoppable than they thought they were. And a lot of people tend to to stay that right out. Our guest today is a first for me. I've not ever talked to a professional basketball player live on unstoppable mindset. And our guest Dre Baldwin was a professional basketball player for a number of years, and I'm sure we're going to get into that, along with so many other things to talk about what he does today, because he's not doing basketball as such today. He's got a company called work on your game, Inc, and I'm sure that that relates back to basketball in some way. So we'll get to it. But anyway, Dre, I want to welcome you to unstoppable mindset, and thank you for taking the time to be here.   Dre Baldwin ** 02:28 Oh, thank you, Michael. And you can call me Dre, yes. Dre, yeah. So okay, I I appreciate, I appreciate you having me on. I'm looking forward to this conversation. Well, we're   Michael Hingson ** 02:38 glad that you're here and all that. Why don't we start by you maybe telling us about the early Dre growing up and some of those kinds of things.   Dre Baldwin ** 02:46 Sure, come from the city of Philadelphia, PA and now live in South Florida, but always played sports growing up, dabbled in a little bit of everything that was available. So went to my mom, put me in a little tennis camp once for a week or two, played a little football, touch football in the driveways. Played baseball for a couple years on an organized level, but didn't really find my find my groove in any sports. I got around to basketball, which is around age 14, which is pretty late to start playing a sport, if you're trying to go somewhere in it. That was my situation. No barely played in high school. Only played one year, and then it led to, I'm sure we'll get into what happened after that. But for the most part, as a youth, I was really into athletics and just figuring out what I could do athletically. So no, of course, you know, in the the street, you grow up on foot races, two hand, touch football, etc, things like that. But I figured that my meaning was going to be somewhere towards using my body in some way. I didn't know how, but that's what I figured I would do.   Michael Hingson ** 03:47 I would presume that along all the time you were in Philadelphia, you never did encounter Rocky Balboa running up the steps of Liberty Hall, or any of those things.   Dre Baldwin ** 03:57 Oh, that's, that's the art museum, the Philadelphia Art Museum. Oh, the art museum. Yeah, Rocky, running up the steps. I never did that. The only reason, no, go ahead, I was saying, the only reason I never did it is because where I grew up is kind of far from the art museum. Is big city, but had I moved near the art museum, then, yeah, I would have ran up steps as exercise. I just, I just, it just wasn't in proximity to me. So that's the only reason I didn't do   Michael Hingson ** 04:21 it, well, that's okay. Well, so what did you do after high school? Well,   Dre Baldwin ** 04:25 I wanted to go to college. I knew I was going to go to college period, even if it weren't for sports. I figured college was Well, first of all, I didn't know what I want to do with my life. Yet at age 18, and the small Inkling I had that I could be a professional athlete at this point, I got that idea around age 16. I wasn't not like I was good enough to be LeBron James or Kobe Bryant, who were no so good. They skipped college and went straight to playing at the program. I wasn't that good. So if I was going to play pro, I needed four more years of seasoning, which meant I needed to go to college. So just on that level alone, I knew I wanted to go. So, but because of my unimpressive high school career, if you want to call it a career, no one was recruiting me to come play in college. So whatever college I went to would not be on the basis of sports, it just be on the basis of I'm here, and let's see if I can get on the basketball team as an unknown, unverified person. So that's what I did. I walked on at a college that happened to be a division three college. Was the third tier of college sports. Most of your pro players are sourced from the Division One level. And I did go there, and I was able to get on the basketball team. Played four years of college basketball at the Division Three level, yet, and still Michael at that level, nobody at the pro level is really looking for pros from the Division Three level. Because, again, who cares about division three players? They can pull from the Division One ranks Division Three guys. So that was my situation. Graduated from college having played, but still, at that point, nobody was looking for me to come play at the   Michael Hingson ** 05:57 pro level. What did you get your degree in? I have a degree from   Dre Baldwin ** 06:01 Penn State University in business with a focus in management and marketing.   Michael Hingson ** 06:05 That explains where you went later, but and kind of how you ended up, yeah, sort of, and Penn State so you were a Nittany Lion, huh?   Dre Baldwin ** 06:17 Technically, yeah, we never talk about, we never say that. But yes,   Michael Hingson ** 06:21 well, yeah, whatever, yeah, Penn State, yeah, well, that's, I didn't know that they were division three in basketball. They certainly aren't in football. But okay, and they have more   Dre Baldwin ** 06:33 than one no, they have more than one campus. So, well, that's true, yeah. So I went to my degree, so just so people understand when Penn State has 23 campuses. So I started at Penn State Abington, which is a division three sports school, and I transferred to Penn State Altoona, which is also a division three sports school. At the time, Abington was not full fledged d3 it is now Altoona was so Altoona was the second highest level inside the entire Penn State system, which was a four years of sports school at the time. At the time, there were only two schools in the whole system where you could play four years. It was the main campus with the football team, and it was out tuning. Nowadays, there are several others who you can play four years of sports. But back then, for many other campuses, you can only play two years. And the other piece is, when you graduate from Penn State, any campus your degree is still Penn State, regardless of which campus you graduated from, I graduated from Altoona, so my degree still just says, it just says Penn State. It doesn't say which campus,   Michael Hingson ** 07:32 right? And, and in a sense, does it really matter? Not   Dre Baldwin ** 07:35 really maybe, to the people who go to the main campus, because they say, Oh, you all went to the other ones. So they try to, in a joking way, kind of discredit it. But I only went to Altoona for basketball. I was accepted into the main campus straight out of high school,   Michael Hingson ** 07:48 right? Well, so whatever. But at least you got a degree from Penn State, and you can't argue with that. Yes, you're right about that. I went to University of California, Irvine, UC Irvine, and when I enrolled my first year, my freshman year was the first year they had a graduating class. It was a new campus for UC system. So 1968 they had their first well 69 they had their first graduating class. And that was the year I was a freshman. And it was a only had like about 2500 2700 students that first year. I was back there in June of this year, they have 31,000 undergraduates. Now it's changed a little bit.   Dre Baldwin ** 08:34 Yeah, so you were part of the first class, where they had all four classes on campus at the same time. Then,   Michael Hingson ** 08:40 right, and they also had graduate school. They had started doing work. It was a well known, even back then, a biology school. In fact, if you wanted to major in biology in the first year I enrolled, I went into physics, so I didn't get to be a victim of this. But they had 1600 students enroll in biology, and the way they weeded them out was they insisted that before you could really take major biology courses, you had to take at least a year of organic chemistry. And so by the time students got to the end of their sophomore year that 1600 students got whittled down to 200 so they use organic chemistry to get get people out of it.   Dre Baldwin ** 09:29 Oh, well, that would have worked on me. Yeah. Well, yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 09:33 yeah, I had no interest in doing that either. So, you know, I dodged a bullet, but, but it was fun. So you went to college, you got a degree in in business and so on. And then what did you   Dre Baldwin ** 09:48 do? Well, then I wanted to play professional basketball. So this is 2004 give everybody a timeline. And initially I didn't have any. Nobody was calling me. Nobody was checking for me, nothing. I tried a few things when. To a couple of tryouts for local, what they call semi professional teams that were based in the United States on smaller towns. Nothing really came of that. So the first work thing I did after college was get a job at Foot Locker as an assistant manager. So I was selling sneakers with the referee shirt and all and everything. So that was my first job out of college. I did that for about six months, and then after that, I went and got a job at ballet Total Fitness was a fitness gym that's now out of business, but not because of me. I made a lot of sales for ballet total fitness, and that's a relief. It   Michael Hingson ** 10:34 wasn't you, what'd you say? I say that's a relief. It wasn't you, yes,   Dre Baldwin ** 10:38 it wasn't me. If it was for me, they'd still be in business that was making a lot of sales, or maybe not, because people didn't like their contracts, but so maybe I contributed to the problem one way or another. So I then, in the summer of 2005 so this is a year removed from graduation, I went to this event called an exposure camp. And then, Michael, you familiar with those? Heard of them?   Michael Hingson ** 10:57 I've heard of it. I don't know anything about it. I can imagine. Okay, I suppose   Dre Baldwin ** 11:00 you can't. Similar to a job fair or a casting call in sports world. So it's where a bunch of people who want a job or want a better job, they go to this place that announces, hey, the people who can give you a job are all going to be here. And they all converge in one place. And as opposed to a job fair, where you just show up and shake hands and hand out your resume at an exposure camp. You bring your sneakers and you actually play whatever the sport is, and you try to impress the decision makers in the audience, who are there to look for people like you. They're there to scout and find talent people like you. So I went to one of these events. It was in Orlando, Florida. At the time. I still live in Philadelphia, so me and a couple college teammates who had similar ambitions to me. We rented a car in Philadelphia and drove to Orlando. It's about a 1517, hour drive, depending on traffic, and we showed up there 9am Saturday morning, hopped out the car, and that's the exact time that the exposure camp began. So I tell people, I could get away with that at age 23 Michael couldn't do it now, but then I could do it. How about the car and just start playing a two day event, and I played pretty well at that event. From there, I got two key things that I needed. One was a scouting report of a scout, a professional level Scout, who just wrote up some positive things about me that basically affirmed, like, Hey, this guy does have the ability to play at the pro level. Another thing I got was footage from those games, because you need in the sports world, you need proof of yourself playing. You can't just say you can play. You got to prove it, and the game film is your proof. So that game film was important to me, because even though I had played in college at college, I was only playing against Division Three level talent. At this exposure camp, I was playing against professional level talent. So this footage mattered a whole lot more. So with that footage, I had to be back in Philadelphia. I was still working in ballet, Total Fitness at the time. I negotiated, I had negotiated with my boss to get the weekend off just to go to this camp. Had to be back at work on Monday morning. So the camp was Saturday and Sunday, and had to be back at work on Monday so we when that camp ended on Sunday afternoon, we hopped right back in the car and drove right back home. So and I didn't sleep that Sunday night or that previous Friday night. And from there, what I started doing was cold calling basketball agents. So the way that agents work in the sports world is pretty similar to the literary or entertainment world, where the agent is basically the go between, between the person who has some ability, or at least they think they do, and the people who like to hire people with ability. And usually agents call you if you show potential, because they believe they can help well, they believe you have the potential to make money. And we know all know what agents do. They're the middleman. So if they help you make money, then they make money. Right? Of course, they want to find people who are going to make money. But no agent had ever been calling me, Michael, because it didn't look like I was going to make any money. But after I went to this exposure camp. Now I had some proof that maybe, maybe I might make some money. So at the same time, no agent knew who I was, so I started calling them. I started calling basketball agents myself, and I was selling myself to them and saying, Hey, I have this scouting report. This is some proof. I have this game footage. Here's some more proof. I called about 60 basketball agents. This is straight up cold calling. And after calling those 60 agents, I was well, through calling those 60, I was able to get in touch with 20 of those 20. I sent the footage to all 20, and one of those 20 was interested in representing me, and he's the one who signed me to become my agent. Now, when you get signed to an agent, doesn't mean you get any money, it just means somebody's working to help you make some money. And then he went and found me my first contract, which was in the late summer of 2005 August, 2005 playing in countless Lithuania. So that's how I started my professional basketball career.   Michael Hingson ** 14:33 So you weren't playing in the US, and it was a long commute to go to Lithuania. So, so how long did you play there? Then? What happened? Well,   Dre Baldwin ** 14:42 each year, for almost 10 years, playing ball, every year I was in a different place. So I never played in the same place more than one season. So I was in that year, I was in Lithuania. I came back to the USA later, later in that in the middle of that season, and I played for a Troy. Traveling team in the USA. It wasn't the team that any of you would know from TV, but play for a traveling team in the USA. Then from there was Mexico from there. After that, you had Montenegro, you had and this is as years are going on. So I don't know when you go through every single one, but I'm just fast forwarding here. Yeah, Mexico is Montenegro. There was Germany, there was Croatia, there was Slovakia. There was a couple other places. I'm not thinking of right off the top of my head, but this was between 2005 and 2015 these are all the different places that I played. Sometimes there were gaps in my schedule. I'm sure we'll talk about that. And there were other things I was doing besides just playing basketball, because the life of a professional athlete, for those who don't know, is a long day of work for us, might be four hours of committed time at work, that's all told. So we have a whole lot of time on our hands. So athletes tend to do other things besides play sports, because we have the time and space to do so,   Michael Hingson ** 15:55 right? And so how did you fill your time? Because you couldn't practice all the time,   Dre Baldwin ** 16:00 right? Yes, physically, there's only so much practice you can do. So I am an internet geek, a closet internet geek. So what I was doing, even back to when I was a child, I was always into computers. So I'm sure you remember given the frame that you gave me here, but I remember the days of the one computer in the whole school, we had a room called the computer we had. It'd be one room with maybe a couple computers. When I was in high school, there was one room with enough computers for everybody. But when I was in second grade, there was one room with one computer, and there was this the green screen, and we would play Oregon Trail and games like that in the computer with a little floppy disk. So that's as far back as I go. So I was always into computers, even back then. And then by the time I graduated college in 2004 now, we were starting to get what I guess people call web 2.0 so this was the Internet where you could kind of create your own stuff, even if you didn't know anything about the back end of the internet, like coding and HTML, etc. So that was about my era when I got out of college, and when I saw that during college, I said to myself, this internet thing, I'm going to do something on the internet. I didn't know what, but I knew I was going to do something. This is before we had we didn't quite have social media yet. We had some software or platforms where you could kind of make profiles and talk to people, but it was nothing like what we have now. So anyway, to answer your question, finally, in 2005 I took the footage from that exposure camp that I went to and at this good footage that I had this. It was not a link that I got this footage on. This is not a download. This was this thing called a VHS tape. Mike, you remember those? Oh, yeah, yeah. So the VHS tape was the format for my footage. It   Michael Hingson ** 17:42 was VHS and VHS, and not beta max, huh? And not   Dre Baldwin ** 17:47 that old, not that old. Remember VHS? Only the VHS the farthest back that I go. So with the VHS tape, I knew that no you can lose this. You can leave it in the sun. You can get it dropping in mortar. You destroy your footage. I needed this footage to last forever, so I took it to an audio visual store, and they transferred it onto a data CD, and that CD I uploaded to, I took the footage off that CD and uploaded to this new website called youtube.com and this website claimed that you could publish as much footage as you want for free. Now, yeah, and I said clean, because 2005 nobody knows is this YouTube thing going to stick around? So I put my footage up there and didn't think anything of it, because, I mean, who cares about putting videos on YouTube in 2005 and maybe six months later, I went just to check on the website make sure it still existed, and there were people who were leaving comments on my video. I didn't know. These people. Didn't know who they were or why they were looking for me. Turns out, they were not looking for me. They were just looking for a basketball period, and I happened to be providing it through my footage. And they were asking questions like, Where do you play? What schools you go to, how often do you practice? They just want to know more about this random person who is showing them this guy looks like he can play basketball. So who is he, and they were hoping maybe that I might give them more of what they were seeing on that footage. And that's it wasn't immediate, Michael, but over the next maybe year or two, the light bulb went off in my head that, hey, these players are just looking for help with basketball, right? And I can provide it, because I do actually practice every day. I can actually play. I'm at the pro level now, and at this point, by about 2007 I had this cheap little digital camera, $100 digital camera, because it's before we had cameras on our phones. So now I could just bring this camera with me to the gym every day, because I go every day anyway. Only difference is now I'm going to film myself working out, and I can take little pieces from what I do, and I can put it on his YouTube site, and if it can help some kids out and maybe stroke my ego a little bit, because they're happy to show them how to play basketball, and why not? So that that was the seed of what led to me building my name on the internet well,   Michael Hingson ** 19:53 and that makes sense for me when I started at UC Irvine back in 19. 68 that was the first time I really encountered any kind of a computer. And what we had were, well, we had in a building, mainframes and terminals around the campus, but we certainly didn't have individual machines. A little bit later on, I started to encounter, for a variety of reasons, more mini and micro computers, like the digital equipment, PDP, 8e, and Data General, no, but to later on, but mostly it was all terminals connected to a big computer. Actually, there were two big computers and and that was, that was what we did. Now for me, of course, it was more of a challenge because all of it was very visual, right? And back then, we didn't have software to make computers talk or anything like that. So there were other adaptions that adaptations that I had to do, but I know exactly what you're talking about. And then I appreciate all the the the challenges and things that you ran into. But obviously it worked for you. And by putting that stuff up on YouTube, I knew you were going to what you were going to say, and how that actually started to open the door. You're right, yeah, which is cool. Well, you So you started helping people by putting up shots and so on. So what happened from that? I assume that more and more people wanted to know more and more about you and what you did and and started asking more questions   Dre Baldwin ** 21:28 between 2005 when I first put the first footage up in 2009 I was putting video out sporadically. So every now and then Michael, I put a new video up on YouTube. I would record my workouts, but I didn't always put something up. So one thing about basketball, as in almost any profession, is that you're doing a lot of the same stuff over and over again. So it's not like I keep putting up the same video me doing the same drills. So I was just put stuff out randomly whenever I got around to it. On top of the fact this is compounded by the fact that there was nothing personal to gain from having people on YouTube watching your video again, you can get a little bit of an ego boost. But other than that, there was nothing tangible to get out of it, so I didn't really care. And mind you, at the same time, I'm playing basketball, my main thing is actually playing basketball, not YouTube. So in 2009 what happened is, Michael, I found myself unemployed, so I was in between jobs, waiting for the phone to ring, and the phone was not yet ringing. I wasn't sure if or when it was going to ring. Good news is going back in the story a little bit. And I got introduced to what I found out to be network marketing when I was in college, and I just wanted to a bulletin board posting about making some money, extra money in the summertime. Turns out some guy was doing network marketing, and I had gone to a few of the meetings. Didn't stay in the in the industry or build a business, but I go into a few of the meetings where a couple breakthrough things happened in my mind. Number one is that the speaker on the stage was talking about business in ways that my college experience had not taught, never even touched on. So that was one that was eye opening. Number two is that the speaker said, if you're going to build your business, you must also build yourself at the same time, because your business cannot business cannot grow any more than you grow. And that made perfect sense to me, and that introduced and then he went on to introduce the concept of personal development, or reinforce it to the people who had heard the message before. That was a phrase I'd never heard of before. I'd always been into reading and human psychology, but I didn't know there was a term called personal development. And number three, he mentioned a couple of the books that he was suggesting that everyone read, and he name dropped some some authors like Napoleon Hill and Zig Ziglar and Brian Tracy and Jim Rohn and Errol Nightingale. And I'd never heard of these people, but I kept them in mind, even though he sold us outside of this hotel room, there's people selling books with these same authors. Just bought a book. Well, I was a broke college student. I could not afford the book, so I didn't buy the book, so I didn't buy the books, Michael, but I went on eBay when I got back to college, and I bought some pi rated copies of some of these books. And there were two of them that made a big impact on me that led to what happened in the future. One was thinking, Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, rich, right? Which showed me that there's a way that you could intentionally and consciously alter your thought patterns that lead to an alteration in your actions. And the other was Rich Dad, Poor Dad, by Robert Kiyosaki. And when reading that book, I realized, okay, there's another way that you can earn revenue and make money in life, aside from what my school teachers, college professors and parents were demonstrating to me. And this is what really set me on the path toward entrepreneur. Entrepreneurship. These, these, this little story I'm telling you here. And this all happened in the middle of my college years, right? So 2009 I just finished reading. I've always been reading. So I just finished reading another book, which was almost like the the New Age version of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. And it was made for people who knew how to use computers, and it was called The Four Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss. And Tim was talking about similar it was a similar direction as Mr. Kiyosaki. Difference is Tim Ferriss was telling you how to do all of these things through the internet. He was the first person, for example, that ever heard say you can hire someone to work for you who doesn't even you know. Even physically met. They can live in India or the Philippines, where they cost the living is a lot lower than the United States, which means you can pay them less than you need to pay an American, and they can still do the same job as long as it's on the internet. I never heard anyone explain it, and then he explained exactly how to do it. And he talked about, know, how you need to structure, how you talk to them and deconstruct things. And my mind, my mind works in that way. So it was perfect for me. So all that is said to say 2009 Michael, that flashed forward in the story when my when I'm unemployed and trying to figure out what to do, I asked myself a really important question, which was, how do I combine these three things? One is my ability to play basketball. Number two is me being an internet geek, and number three is my desire to earn revenue in a way that I control. And what I just explained, the backstory tells you why all three of these matter, right? So that's how I started to build what we now call a personal brand. At the time, that was a new phrase. So when I what I started doing was, first of all putting videos on YouTube every single day. Because another thing that happened about that? Yeah, so another thing that happened at that time Michael was YouTube got purchased by Google and Google, and people don't remember this, maybe, but YouTube was not monetized up to that point. So YouTube was losing a lot of money. It was very popular, but they were losing money because they were spending all this money on the the space to hold all these these videos, but they weren't making any money. So by monetizing the site, ie that means putting advertisements on the videos. There was a time those of you listening that you could watch YouTube all day with no ads, but they started putting ads on the videos, and this allowed them to make money, and it also allowed them to share in the profits. So people like myself, the more videos we put out, and the more I got viewed, the more money we made. So I started making videos every day. Other thing was, I had always been blogging. I've always been a big reader, always a big writer. So I started writing more often, just about my experiences playing overseas. And also I started writing about my background in basketball, and also about how to play overseas, because there's a a niche market, but a hungry market of basketball players who believe they could play overseas the same way that I've once believed it. The thing is, is, unlike being a doctor or a lawyer, there's no, like, quote, unquote, official documentation on how to do it. So I started writing and explaining that, because I have the ability not only to have done certain things, but also I'm pretty good at explaining them. So I started doing that. That was the writing piece. And as I continue to do this, people started to know my name on the internet. So then I started to become kind of a, what we now call an influencer, specifically for basketball players, because of what I was doing online. So this all happened during that about 2009 to 2000 maybe 11 period, and the two other pieces I'll add to this cap, this long answer to a short question, which is also Tim Ferriss introduced this concept of you can sell your own products on the internet. And he gave a little experiment on how to test out the market viability. I did it. I started selling my own products. My first two products, Michael, were $4.99 each. That was the price. One was for dribbling the basketball. Ones for shooting the basketball, and they started selling immediately, as soon as I put them out. And the reason was because I had a hungry audience who was already following me, and I had already built a relationship with them, not because I was any type of marketing expert, but I kind of was. But by accident, I didn't, I didn't think of it as marketing. I just thought of it as I had something they want. And the last thing is, self publishing became a thing. So I told you I told you I was a big reader, big writer, so now I can write my own books, and I didn't have to go through a publisher to do it, because I always had the idea writing a book, but I didn't know anything about going through the traditional publishing process, which eventually I have done. But at the time, I wasn't thinking about doing that. But now I can write a book, and I can put it out tomorrow if I want to. So that's what I started doing. So all of this happened between 2009 and 2000 1101. More piece. I'm sorry. Lot of things happen in this period. One more piece was that the players who were following me online, basketball players, 99% of my audience, they started finding out about my background, because every now and then I would reply in the comments telling them, oh, well, I only played one year of high school, or I walked on to play in college, or I played overseas because I went to this exposure camp, or I would make a video just talking, just explaining these things, because I got asked the same question so often. And when players found out about this background of mine, they started asking questions about mindset. They started asking me things like, what kept you disciplined? What keeps you disciplined to keep working out because you put these videos out every day, or, where do you get the confidence to show up and perform at an exposure camp when you only have two days basically to make or break your career? Or why'd you keep trying when you were getting cut from your high school team over and over again, because they would say, hey, Dre I got cut from my team, but I feel like quitting. So why'd you keep trying? What is it that kept you going? Or they would ask something about, how do you get started now? How do you get started playing overseas? How do you get started getting known on the internet? Because now, internet? Because now this is when we start to have the seeds, Michael, of this generation of kids who, instead of growing up wanting to be a police officer or a firefighter, now they want to be YouTubers, because this is what they're seeing. And I was, I guess I was that to them. So they just want to know, how do you get started with all these things that you seem to be doing? Troy, so you. Now that's the end of my long answer to your short question. All of these things happen around a three year span, and that's kind of what sent me in the next direction I ended up going.   Michael Hingson ** 30:08 So I'm curious. One thing you said earlier was that one of the things that you discovered by going to the meeting of the network marketing guy was that he was telling you things that were significantly different than what you learned in business courses in college. What kinds of things were different?   Dre Baldwin ** 30:31 Well, so much so number one, the guy, well, the first, first thing is, I'm sure you've been to a network marketing meeting before. I everybody, I think my age or older has been someone so in these meetings, the first thing that they do, I would say, about 70% of the presentation is just helping you understand a different way of thinking about earning money and just money period. And the other 20 to 30% of the presentation is about the actual product or service that you would actually be selling if you were to take advantage of the join the business opportunity, as they call it. So the first thing is, they help people understand that to make more money, most people just go looking for ways to do more work, put in more time, put in more hours, when they explain instead, you should look for ways to have a network, or for ways to have assets that will do work for you, so you're making money, even if you're not doing the work. And then you language it in a way that makes it simple for the everyday person to understand, not the way that I just said it, but they make it really simple to understand. That's the first   Michael Hingson ** 31:32 thing. But the reality is that while people may or may not realize it, anybody who tends to be very successful in business has probably essentially done the same thing, whether they acknowledge it or not. So I mean, I appreciate what you're saying anyway. Go ahead, yeah.   Dre Baldwin ** 31:47 So that's the first thing. Is they help you understand that to make more money is not give more time to your job, whatever, because most people there have a job may introduce the business for the first time like myself, and many of them no older than me. So that's the first thing. The second thing is them helping you understand that, hey, it's possible to have other people working for you, which everyone logically understands, but most of us have this block in our minds that to get people working for me. Well, first of all, I had to have my own company. Secondly, I got to make a lot of money. And third, I got to go find the people. Fourth, I got to teach them what to do. And fifth, I got to watch them. And network marketing kind of handles all those problems at the same time. Because if you join the business and you get other people to join with you, the system teaches them all that stuff. You don't have to spend any money to get them on your team. You don't actually even be having you don't have to be making that much money yourself to get someone else on your team. And every time they make money, you make money, right? So it kind of solves all those problems of getting people on your team to where their efforts put money in your pocket without you having to do all the work. So that was the second breakthrough that happened in that meeting, and the third breakthrough to me, Michael, because I've always been a person who I consider myself a critical thinker, and I try to be as logical and as objective as I can be. As I already told you, I have a business degree from Penn State University, so I'm thinking to myself, why haven't any of my college professors ever mentioned anything is being told to us in this meeting? I just didn't understand it. Why are they not talking about this? Because it sounds like it makes perfect sense. So if it's wrong, maybe they can explain why it's wrong. But if it's right, why are they not talking about it? So these are the three biggest things that stuck in my head after I went to that meeting.   Michael Hingson ** 33:26 How did you or what did you discover? Was the answer to that last one, why they don't talk about it?   Dre Baldwin ** 33:33 We have a whole conversation on that so I understand the answer is that the system that we have in the United States, especially educational system is designed to produce employees. It's designed to produce people. We're going to go work for somebody else and work out your no salvation for someone else. Because if you are, this is just my my opinion here. If you are independently making your own money, then you are less controlled, and you are, it's harder to keep you under the thumb of anything or anyone else, and you can do or say, you have much more freedom. Let's just put it that way, when you have your own business and you're making your own money, as opposed to when you work somewhere and they set the rules upon you. So I believe the educational system not I believe, I know the educational system was initially created the way that it is to train people to be ready to be ready to go work in factories during the Industrial Revolution. Now we're not in that space anymore. Now it's more mental work than it is physical labor. But the system is the framework of the system still exists the exact same way teaching   Michael Hingson ** 34:33 entrepreneurialism, if you will, is still something that is not nearly as common as it as it really probably should be correct. Yeah. So that happens. Well, so how long did you continue to play basketball?   Dre Baldwin ** 34:48 I played basketball to 2015 so by this 2009 to 2011 period. Now I basically had two, if you want to call them jobs, neither one of them was well, basketball is technically a job. If you're a contractor, but I basically had two jobs playing basketball, and I have this internet thing going on that we now call personal brand, or you can call it a business, but I wasn't calling it either of those back then. I was just a guy who was known on YouTube, and I sell products, and I got books, and there was no word for it. So in this time period that last four or five years that I was playing basketball, of course, I'm traveling back and forth and playing, but as I told you, our long days of work are four hours, so I have plenty of time on my hands. So I'm blogging, I'm making videos, I'm updating my website. I'm making more programs, because when those first two four hour and 99 cent programs started selling, I said, Well, I know I got more about basketball than just two things. Let me just make programs for everything that I know. So I just made programs for every single aspect of the game that I understood, and I just kept putting them out. And I just was selling those programs to the point that I was making money online. And I got to the point probably about 2010 that I remember telling a friend that whatever this is that we're going to call this, that I'm doing on the internet is going to be bigger for me than basketball. I can see that very clearly, Michael, it's just for the simple fact that athletes have a very short shelf life. You can only play a professional sport for so long, no matter how good you are, because the body can't keep doing that at that level forever. But what I had created when I started selling products was what we call intellectual property. And you can create intellectual property forever, as long as your brain works and you can either write or you can talk or some way of communicating, you can sell intellectual property your entire life. You cannot sell physical property, at least not through your physical body, forever, not in the sports realm. So I knew my time was going to end in basketball, and my time using my brain to communicate something and sell it, hopefully that would never expire. To this point, I'm it's still true, so that's how I knew what I was going to be doing next. So   Michael Hingson ** 36:46 you played basketball, but eventually, I gather that what you're really saying is you made the decision that you were going to go into to doing the marketing, to strengthening your brand and creating new intellectual property, and you were going to do that full time?   Dre Baldwin ** 37:03 Yes, absolutely. So I was doing it from, again, my 2010 and 2015 I guess you could call it part time, right? And, but again, you had the off season, and I had a lot more time doing that than I had on the basketball court, right? And it was just building the business. Because remember the network marketing experience, reading Robert Kiyosaki, reading Tim Ferriss. I knew I wanted to go into the business world, because after sports, you start to do something. I mean, it's not like you just sit around do nothing for the rest of your life. You're 30 something years old. I was 33 when I stopped playing, so I knew there was something else that I was going to be doing, and I knew I didn't want to go the traditional route. So I knew that from watching my parents, I knew that from listening to my college professors, and I knew that from looking at my college classmates, I said, I'm not like these people. I need a different option. What else am I going to do? So I already knew that route was my route.   Michael Hingson ** 37:51 When did you come up with the the title and the concept work on your game?   Dre Baldwin ** 37:57 That same time period about 2009 so this was early in the days when I first started publishing on YouTube a little bit more consistently. And my audience is steadily growing, of athletes at this point. And athletes were starting to just ask me a lot of questions about, help can you help me with this? Help me with that? And one day, I was in a 24 hour fitness gym here in Miami, as a matter of fact, excuse me, and I just had my camera with me. My little $100 camera still had it, and I was finishing a workout on my own at about four o'clock in the morning, because I was couldn't sleep, so I just went to the gym, and I was stretching after my workout. And I remember recording this video. It's about two minutes long, and it's still on YouTube to this day. And what I said in the video was that a lot of you players, the reason that you all are having trouble getting better or making a team or you play, but nobody wants to give you the ball is because you all are spending way too much time watching me on youtube or playing Xbox than you are actually doing what I'm doing, which is being in the gym and literally working on your game. So I said in a little bit more colorful language than that, but when I put that out there, Michael, people really loved the phrase. They loved the phrase work on your game because they hadn't heard it used so forcefully in such a way. And it took about a year and a half of people repeating it back to me, seeing me in a mall, seeing me on internet, and saying it when I realized, you know what, I could just name. I can put a name on this and call it work on your game. Because the good thing about it is, because I already had this business mindset. Even though a lot of these players only knew me for basketball, I was thinking bigger than just basketball. And the phrase, the great thing about the phrase is that it doesn't limit you to sports. So that's where I first said it,   Michael Hingson ** 39:32 right, which makes perfect sense, you know? And and one of the things that I'm reacting to is when you said earlier that people kept asking you, well, why did you continue? Why did you keep working and trying to get on basketball, even though you didn't get very far in high school and you did some in college, but you never got to be pro, and then you eventually went to the resilience camp and so on. But ultimately, a lot of it comes down to discipline. Uh, and you, you chose to be disciplined about what you did, which I think is really a very important thing. So the question I would ask is, why is discipline such a very important part of success?   Dre Baldwin ** 40:16 I believe it's the biggest differentiator between, if you have people who have potential or resources. Biggest differentiator between who actually makes it and who doesn't is who has discipline. Because if everyone in the room has potential and everyone has access to resources, information, knowledge, talent, etc, the person who's the most disciplined is the one who's going to get the most out of the opportunities that are in front of them. And I believe so few people have discipline that it becomes the opportunity. Because I tell people, Michael, the opportunity is always in the opposites. So you just look around at what most people in any space are doing. If you could just be the opposite of that, that's where the opportunity is. You just have to ask yourself, all right, looking at how everybody else is and what everybody else is doing or thinking or saying, if I looked at the opposite of that, where's the opportunity? Because the opportunity somewhere over there. So if you just wrote, you'll find it so discipline, easy differentiator, because most people are not disciplined,   Michael Hingson ** 41:10 no and and even the people who are, they're generally looking for that difference that they can take advantage of, which makes perfect sense. How about discipline and how it actually helps in building confidence?   Dre Baldwin ** 41:28 Great question. Well, discipline produces confidence, and most people don't go looking for discipline, even though everyone understands that they need it. If you ask, if you stop the 100 people on the street and say, Do you need more discipline, everybody will laugh and say yes. And they can point to several areas in life in which they need it, but most people don't have it, even though everyone claims that they need it, because this is one of those things. But if you ask 100 people, would you like to be more confident, and in what area, most people would also say yes. The challenge is, most people don't know how to go about getting confidence. They don't know how to get this one either. But confidence, since you want it, confidence comes from discipline. So the more disciplined you are, the more confident you'll become, because discipline is basically about doing the work consistently, and confidence is your belief and your ability to do a thing. So the more you do your homework, so to speak, the more prepared you are for the test. If people can follow that metaphor, and that's what confidence is really about. And a lot of people tend to think confidence comes from faking it until you make it, or pretending that you're something that you're not. The problem with that is eventually you had to stop faking and then you have to go back to being who you were before. So you don't want to be on this roller coaster of up and down. Instead, you want to become it. And the way you become anything is by embodying it, by doing the things that that person that's you, the future version of you would already do. All you have to do is figure out what's the process, what are the disciplines of that type of person that already exists? You can model after that, follow the structure that's already been put in place by someone who's already done it, or already has become it. You follow it, and you can get the same result. So that's where confidence actually comes from, and it's based on following the disciplines, and you follow disciplines when you simply have a structure to plug yourself into.   Michael Hingson ** 43:06 I am also a firm believer in the fact that if you try to fake it, people are going to see through it. People are generally smarter than people who fake it. Give them credit for being and the fact of the matter is, you can fake it all you want, but they're going to see through it. And the reality is, if you're authentic, no matter what you do, you're going to go a whole heck of a lot further Anyway, yes. So the other thing is that, when you're dealing with discipline and so on, another sort of phrase that comes to mind is the whole idea of mental toughness and and you've gotta be able to become tough enough to be able to cope with whatever you know you're going to be able to do, and you've gotta have the conviction to make it happen. That means you gotta be pretty tough internally,   Dre Baldwin ** 43:54 yes, and that's another differentiating factor. All of these are differentiators, but mental toughness is about understanding that no matter how prepared you are, no matter how disciplined, how confident at some point along the way, many points along the way, things are not going to go the way that you expecting them to go. Something's going to go left, that you expect them to go right, a person's going to let you down. Just something randomly pops up that throws a wrench in your plans. And what people should understand is that everyone has these kind of things happen to them. Everyone has stuff happen in their lives. There's no one who is immune to this. The difference between the people who get to tell their story and everyone else, because everyone has a story, but not everyone has the luxury of getting their story heard, is that the people who get to tell their story are those who persevered through the stuff and came out on the other side to where they can tell their story. They created some success despite the stuff that they went through, and now, because you created the success, now you have this credibility, and you're on this sort of pedestal that makes people want to hear what you have to say and hear about your story. But it's not that the people who are in the audience don't have a story. Is simply that until you create a certain level of success, people don't care to hear your story. They only want to hear the story when you become a success. But you can't just be a success with no story. Instead of person who hasn't gone through stuff but they became quote unquote successful, nobody wants to hear that either. So you have to go through the process of going through the stuff, going through the challenges, the times where it looks like you're going to lose and you figure out a way to make it work. Then, once you're a success, now you get to tell your story. So that's what mental toughness is about.   Michael Hingson ** 45:27 I wrote a book, and started it around the time the pandemic started began, and the idea behind the book was to teach people to learn that they can control fear and that fear doesn't need to overwhelm them and blind them and make them incapable of making decisions. And if they truly learn about fear and how to use it, they can use it in a very positive way to further them. And of course, that's for me. The example is what I learned in order that, as it turns out, I survived being in the World Trade Center on September 11 and escaping with a guide dog. And it's and it's all about really learning those skills, learning to be tough, learning to persevere, and at the same time, being, I think, resilient, and being able to go sometimes with the flow. You talked about the fact that, in reality, many times things will happen that you don't expect, and it can can take you down. But the other part about it is, if you analyze the things that are happening to you, especially when there's something that you don't expect happening, and it occurs, what are you going to do about it? What do you learn from that? And that's, I think the thing that most people never really discover is that they can go back and from all the challenges they face. They're not failures, and they can learn from that, and they just don't do that.   Dre Baldwin ** 46:50 I agree with that completely. Is that, well, one reasons people don't tend to not look back often enough at the things that they've gone through, and also people are just not very people tend to not want to be too much of a critical thinker about themselves. Now, people will be critics of themselves or criticize themselves, but being a critical thinker doesn't necessarily mean beating yourself down. It just means looking at the situation and asking yourself, uh, given the same circumstances, if i What did I overlook at the beginning? What did I not notice that I sort of noticed, and of course, looking at what we know now after going through the situation, maybe what what I have done differently. But a lot of people don't take the time to really think critically about their own lives and their own situations. Therefore, they miss the opportunities in kind of debriefing, so to speak, as you describe it. And   Michael Hingson ** 47:35 the other part about that is they don't develop, if you will, the mind muscle to be able to analyze and be introspective and learn from the challenges that happened, or even when they do something well, could I do it better? We don't. We don't tend to do that. And I think that so many people become so critical of themselves, it's a very negative thing. And I used to say it, I'm my own worst critic, because I like to listen to speeches that I give and learn from them. But over the past year, year and a half, what I really discovered is wrong thing to say. It's not I'm my own worst critic. I'm my own best teacher, which is absolutely true. I am the only one that can really teach me. And my own best teacher puts everything in a much more positive light. That's right, and which is cool. And you know, you, you, you certainly demonstrated a lot of personal initiative. You You stuck to it. You were mentally tough, and so on. And you build a business, and now that business, I gather, is pretty successful. You've written, what, 35 books, you've created lots of videos, and you continue to do things. What do you think the most important thing is that people get from you today and that they've gotten from you?   Dre Baldwin ** 48:51 Great question. Well, I'll tell you the answer that I've gotten from people who work with us because I asked that question, I asked them, or I framed it by saying, I know, and you know, Mister client, that I'm not the only person in the world who does what I do, not the only person offering what I offer or talking about what I talk about. So what is it about my material? If you see an I sent an email, you see I just put out a video, or you're getting in a conversation with me, what is it about my approach that makes it different from anyone else who might be offering something similar in the marketplace, and the common answer that I get every time is, it's your style of delivery. So it's Dre you're no nonsense. You're no fluff. You get straight to the point. You're honest, you're objective, you keep it real. You do a good job of explaining different angles of things, while at the same time letting people know your opinion. So I just people tell me they just appreciate my style of communication. But nobody ever says, Dre you're the best in the world when it comes to talking about discipline or confidence or writing books or entrepreneurship or nobody ever says that even though I may be the best in the world, nobody says I'm the best in the world. They all say, we like the way that you get your point across. That's what they appreciate the most.   Michael Hingson ** 50:01 Well, and I, I would buy into that anyway, because I think that authenticity and telling the truth in a way that that people can accept it is so important and and so often we don't see that. So I can appreciate them saying that to you.   Dre Baldwin ** 50:18 Well, thank you.   Michael Hingson ** 50:20 Me why? Yeah, go ahead. No,   Dre Baldwin ** 50:22 I agree.   Michael Hingson ** 50:24 Well, there you go. We'll see, see. Okay, we both bought into that one. Why is discipline more important than motivation? I mean, everybody talks about motivation. There are a lot of motivational speakers out there. I know that a lot of times I'm providing motivational or inspirational talks, but and I suspect that the answer you're going to give will explain the but, but, why is it that motivation isn't nearly as as crucial as discipline? Well,   Dre Baldwin ** 50:51 just like you, Michael, I will give out motivational messages as well, so to speak. And if someone is booking me to speak and they say, need a motivational speaker, I'll take it right? They want me on the stage, so I'm good with that. The thing is, motivation and discipline are not diametrically opposed, and sometimes when we talk about these things, people tend to get the idea that they are like enemies. They're not enemies. They work together. The thing is, motivation comes and goes. We don't know when motivation is going to show up. Sometimes we're motivated, sometimes we're not, discipline always shows up. So even in the times when we are not motivated, if you're disciplined, you're still going to go to the gym, you're still going to write the next 500 words in your book, you're still going to record your show, you're still going to do the paperwork you're supposed to do. You'll still check your email inbox, whatever it is that you're supposed to do for the discipline. So motivation, if and when I have it, great, but if I don't have it, no one would know the days that I'm not motivated, because I'm still going to do the same work. So motivation is a good thing because, again, it'll get people fired up. It'll get you moving. It can light a fire under someone and get them to do something that they otherwise would not have done. The problem is motivation is much more temporary than the long term effects of discipline. So when people are going around looking for motivation, especially at the professional level, you're setting yourself up for a problem. Because at the professional level, you're getting paid to do something as your main occupation, which means you have to deliver consistently. The problem is motivation is not always there. So what will you do when you're not motivated? This is where discipline picks up. So what I advise people, and I give them a whole structure for this, is you need to take their short term motivations and convert them into long term disciplines, because that's the one that you can   Michael Hingson ** 52:31 count on. I would also submit that those long term disciplines will greatly enhance the amount of time you're motivated as well. Good point, because the the reality is that the discipline

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