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Send us a Text Message.This flavorful, soulfully seasoned sacred conversation between two Albuquerque-born New Mexicans, Lalah Delia and myself, was a joyful trip down memory lane, nostalgia, and our longing for open mesas, towering mountains, roasted pinons and chiles, and authentic New Mexican food, culture, and energy. All as a childhood root for our kindred spiritual callings to serve the cause of collective human healing. May you enjoy listening and be well fed as Lalah and I dive deep into a lush pot of conversational pozole and green chile stew.Lalah Delia is a bestselling author, educator, spiritual writer, certified spiritual practitioner, and founder of Vibrate Higher Daily School. She is leading seekers to self-empowerment and a life of more grace and high vibrations.Her bestselling book, Vibrate Higher Daily: Live Your Power, spiritual writings, teaching, speaking, and social media presence are guiding seekers around the globe on a journey back home to their empowered, higher-potential, whole selves. Through her lyrical and organic writing, teaching style, and experiences, Lalah enlivens spiritual seekers looking to live with more intuition, empowerment, higher purpose and vibrations, confidence, grace, and subconscious mind reprogramming.Her work is a response to her journey and to the current vibrational state of the world we live in, navigate, and journey through daily.  Lalah, her work, and her story are featured on film, in documentaries, and in various media, including television, podcasts, and magazine. She has spoken at panels across the country, such as SXSW, In Goop Health, and Girlboss Rally, and has been featured in print and digital editions of VOGUE, Harper's Bazaar, Instyle, Yoga Journal, Glamour, Forbes, goop, New York Magazine, The Cut, mindbodygreen, Essence, Girlboss Radio, Black Girl In Om, Expanded Podcast, i-D, Hollywood Reporter, and more.Lalah has been interviewed and seen on CBS Mornings, Entertainment Tonight, ABC News, PBS, and Good Morning America. Lalah can also be found featured as a guest on an array of popular podcasts.Visit her work and school at vibratehigherdaily.com, where you can work with and be guided by Lalah in her private, thriving, personal energetics and self-development community. Visit her work and school at vibratehigherdaily.com, where you can work with and be guided by Lalah in her private and thriving sacred personal energetics and development community. .Sacred Conversations are periodic episodes of my podcast in which I reach out to people whose work and life inspire me, and we simply have an old fashioned phone conversation. No video. No scripted, transactional, extractive, one-sided interview dynamic. Just two people with a care and curiosity for each other's journey, asking each other soulful questions, and enjoying the ancient, mutually healing art of listening deeply. Again, not an interview. A spiritual communion. The idea is for us to relax and enjoy an organic conversation, like over tea or breaking bread, and get to know each other along the way. My books are available at jaiyajohn.com (thank you for purchasing directly from the author) and at booksellers worldwide. Audiobooks, eBooks, book specials, sleep stories, audio talks, apparel, and piano music are exclusively at my website. Thank you for posting your copies of my books on Instagram, tagging #jaiyajohn, encouraging others to purchase, posting readings of your favorite passages, and sharing online book reviews. My whole heart cries Grateful. jaiyajohn.com...    Support the Show.

Elaine Welteroth is a bit of a Girlboss legend. She was a speaker at our Girlboss Rally conference for two years in a row, and has been a guest on Girlboss Radio. We've been champions of Elaine's career since her days at Teen Vogue when she became the editor-in-chief at just 29 years old, the youngest in Condé Nast history.  Since then, she's gone on to write a New York Times best-selling memoir, More Than Enough, and teach a course with MasterClass about designing your dream career. We're so excited to have Elaine on the pod once again to talk about her latest venture: birthFUND, a non-profit that supports families in the U.S. who can't afford the out-of-pocket costs of midwifery care. And she launched it with none other than tennis legend Serena Williams. Elaine and Avery chatted about how her own birthing experience inspired her to start birthFUND, how to advocate for yourself when pregnant, and how she brings big ideas to life. Learn more about birthFUND at thebirthfund.com and @birthfund on Instagram, and follow Elaine at @elainewelteroth. New episodes of Girlboss Radio drop every Tuesday. Never miss an episode by subscribing here: girlboss.com/pages/girlboss-radio-subscribe. Check out our brand-new Girlboss Courses! In Spark Your Career Renaissance, career coach Tori Lazar will help you figure out what lights you up at work and in your life, and teach you how to go from stuck to success. Learn more and enroll at course.girlboss.com/courses/spark-your-career-renaissance. In The Life Planner Class, Jésabel DC, a digital organization expert, will show you how to win back up to 40 hours of free time every month through techniques like time-blocking. Learn more and enroll at: course.girlboss.com/courses/the-life-planner-class. Sign up for Girlboss Daily, our must-read morning newsletter, at girlboss.com/newsletter. You'll get A+ career advice, dream job postings, free coffee every Friday and a few emojis (because we're fun like that), delivered right to your inbox. Looking for your next dream employee? Post your open role on our Girlboss Job Board at jobs.girlboss.com.

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Re-Air of Episode 133 from November 30th, 2021 in celebration of Berna's new book Money Out Loud: All the Financial Stuff No One Taught Us (pre-order now!) // Berna Anat, a self proclaimed financial hype woman, host of the Money Please Podcast, and overall amazing human being, joins Jerry on Episode 133 to share her journey as a child of Filipino immigrants who navigated her way through higher education and media leading to her betting on herself as a content creator in the personal finance space. Her brand new podcast Money Please by Betches Media launched in October 2021 and she has a book coming out in 2022. Follow her @heyberna everywhere.Meet BernaBerna Anat is a Financial Hype Woman, which is her made-up way of saying she creates financial education media that lives at @HeyBerna all over the Internet. After slaying her $50,000 debt, she saved up to quit life and has been traveling the world trying to make money fun again ever since.Facts that make her impostor syndrome twerk: Berna has dropped her money mic at venues such as the Girlboss Rally, Google and The Wing, and her work has been featured on platforms such as Forbes, The New York Times, and Buzzfeed. Berna was recently named one of ABS-CBN's Global Pinoy Idols, awarded to the 10 most influential Filipinx people in the United States. Yes, she's Filipina. Yes, she's sure.(Source: HeyBerna.com)// Connect with Bernawww.HeyBerna.comInstagram: @heybernaTwitter: @heybernaPre-Order Money Out Loud: www.heyberna.com// This episode of Dear Asian Americans is brought to you by the Quarter Pounder with Cheese from McDonalds.It's QPC time. Did your mouth just water?The QPC is the burger that breaks the norms of etiquette, the burger that napkins were made for, the burger that's saucy, drippy, oozing with flavor, always cooked when you order.So the next time you want a mouth-watering burger, order the QPC from McDonalds.// Did you know? There are treatments for covid.If you or a loved one is 50 or over, or has a chronic health condition, you're at higher risk for severe covid illness. But early treatment can make covid infection shorter, less severe, and help keep you out of the hospital. It could save your life.So if you have covid symptoms, talk to a doctor right away and get treatment.We can do this. Paid for by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.// Support Dear Asian Americans:Merch: https://www.bonfire.com/store/dearasianamericans/Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/jerrywonSubscribe to the Newsletter: https://subscribepage.io/daanewsletterLearn more about DAA Creator and Host Jerry Won:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrywon/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerryjwon/// Listen to Dear Asian Americans on all major platforms:Transistor.fm: http://www.dearasianamericans.comApple: https://apple.dearasianamericans.comSpotify: https://spotify.dearasianamericans.comStitcher: https://stitcher.dearasianamericans.comGoogle: https://google.dearasianamericans.com  Follow us on Instagram:  http://www.instagram.com/dearasianamericans Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/dearasianamericans Subscribe to our YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/dearasianamericans // Join the Asian Podcast Network:Web: https://asianpodcastnetwork.com/Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/asianpodcastnetwork/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asianpodcastnetwork/Dear Asian Americans is produced by Just Like Media:Web: http://www.justlikemedia.comInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/justlikemedia

Born and raised in Los Angeles, California, Julissa Prado is the Founder &CEO of Rizos Curls, a clean hair care line aimed at embracing and celebrating the beauty of curls, coils and waves everywhere!After years of making her own curly cocktail and being the “curl whisperer” within her community, Julissa decided to launch her own haircare line Rizos Curls.The result is a line of products made with quality natural ingredients that works across a variety of curly hair textures. The brand has amassed a global following of #RizosReinas, becoming a favorite among the curly hair community, shipped to over 57 countries and available at Target, Ulta Beauty and Sally Beauty Mexico!Julissa is a leading force in the beauty industry with award wins as one ofCosmopolitan's 2021 The New C-Suite Winner and named Entrepreneur of the Year in 2020 by Beauty Independent. Julissa is also an active national speaker with speaking roles at Harvard University, The Girlboss Rally, Create& Cultivate, the U.S. Department of State for The United Nations, TED, among others. She also proudly organizes curated events and resources centered on entrepreneurship, including the Rizos Curls Small BusinessSummit and JEFACON, a collaboration with Smashbox Cosmetics.Julissa holds a Masters in Business from Wake Forest University, is an alumniof UCLA, and has held corporate leadership positions at Nestlé. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/quientueres/support

Wine: Vesa O Reserva, 2020 Organic Rosé, D.O. Valle de Rapel ChileBIO: Born and raised in Los Angeles, California, Julissa Prado is the Founder & CEO of Rizos Curls, a clean hair care line aimed at embracing and celebrating the beauty of curls, coils and waves everywhere! After years of making her own curly cocktail and being the “curl whisperer” within her community, Julissa decided to launch her own hair care line Rizos Curls. The result is a line of products made with quality natural ingredients that works across a variety of curly hair textures. The brand has amassed a global following of #RizosReinas, becoming a favorite among the curly hair community, shipped to over 57 countries and available at Target, Ulta Beauty and Sally Beauty Mexico! Julissa is a leading force in the beauty industry with award wins as one of Cosmopolitan's 2021 The New C-Suite Winner and named Entrepreneur of the Year in 2020 by Beauty Independent. Julissa is also an active national speaker with speaking roles at Harvard University, The Girlboss Rally, Create & Cultivate, the U.S. Department of State for The United Nations, TED, among others. She also proudly organizes curated events and resources centered on entrepreneurship, including the Rizos Curls Small Business Summit and JEFACON, a collaboration with Smashbox Cosmetics. Julissa holds a Masters in Business from Wake Forest University, is an alumni of UCLA, and has held corporate leadership positions at Nestlé.WebsiteRizos InstagramJulissa Instagram

Berna Anat, a self proclaimed financial hype woman, host of the Money Please Podcast, and overall amazing human being, joins Jerry on Episode 133 to share her journey as a child of Filipino immigrants who navigated her way through higher education and media leading to her betting on herself as a content creator in the personal finance space. Her brand new podcast Money Please by Betches Media launched in October 2021 and she has a book coming out in 2022. Follow her @heyberna everywhere.Meet BernaBerna Anat is a Financial Hype Woman, which is her made-up way of saying she creates financial education media that lives at @HeyBerna all over the Internet. After slaying her $50,000 debt, she saved up to quit life and has been traveling the world trying to make money fun again ever since. Facts that make her impostor syndrome twerk: Berna has dropped her money mic at venues such as the Girlboss Rally, Google and The Wing, and her work has been featured on platforms such as Forbes, The New York Times, and Buzzfeed. Berna was recently named one of ABS-CBN's Global Pinoy Idols, awarded to the 10 most influential Filipinx people in the United States. Yes, she's Filipina. Yes, she's sure.(Source: HeyBerna.com)Connect with Bernawww.HeyBerna.comInstagram: @heybernaTwitter: @heybernaSubscribe to Money Please by Betches Media// Support Dear Asian Americans:Merch: https://www.bonfire.com/store/dearasianamericans/Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/jerrywonLearn more about DAA Creator and Host Jerry Won:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrywon/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerryjwon/// Listen to Dear Asian Americans on all major platforms:Transistor.fm: http://www.dearasianamericans.comApple: https://apple.dearasianamericans.comSpotify: https://spotify.dearasianamericans.comStitcher: https://stitcher.dearasianamericans.comGoogle: https://google.dearasianamericans.com  Follow us on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/dearasianamericans Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/dearasianamericans Subscribe to our YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/dearasianamericans // Join the Asian Podcast Network:Web: https://asianpodcastnetwork.com/Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/asianpodcastnetwork/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asianpodcastnetwork/Dear Asian Americans is produced by Just Like Media:Web: http://www.justlikemedia.comInstagram.com: http://www.instagram.com/justlikemedia

Aimee Song is an influencer, fashion designer, blogger, author, and entrepreneur. Since launching her blog, Song of Style, in 2008, Aimee Song has become an international influencer with over 5 million followers. She is a member of the Forbes 30 under 30, and was featured by The Business of Fashion as one of the 500 people shaping the fashion industry.  Whether she's being snapped on the streets at Paris Fashion Week or sharing her outfit of the day from dreamy locales, you've surely seen her inspiring style all over Instagram. Aimee has partnered with major brands from Chloe, La Mer to Volvo, and is also a bestselling author. Her book, Capture Your Style, was on The New York Times best-seller list with her follow-up, Aimee Song: World of Style published in 2018. Her brand has expanded into what influencers dream of building.  Listen in as Aimee shares tips on building brands that last, and ways to grow a meaningful social media presence. This interview was recorded in front of a live audience at a Girlboss Rally with Sophia Amoruso. Watch this interview on Girlboss's Youtube channel, here. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL  Stop stressing over email and use Mailman to shield you from unimportant emails. Minimize interruptions and make your days calmer and more productive. Try Mailman for free for three weeks at http://bit.ly/mailman_gb. If you like it, use the code GIRLBOSS to save 20% on your first year. Follow Aimee on Instagram at @songofstyle and @aimeesong Follow Girlboss on Instagram at @girlboss.

Aimee Song is an influencer, fashion designer, blogger, author, and entrepreneur. Since launching her blog, Song of Style, in 2008, Aimee Song has become an international influencer with over 5 million followers. She is a member of the Forbes 30 under 30, and was featured by The Business of Fashion as one of the 500 people shaping the fashion industry.  Whether she's being snapped on the streets at Paris Fashion Week or sharing her outfit of the day from dreamy locales, you've surely seen her inspiring style all over Instagram. Aimee has partnered with major brands from Chloe, La Mer to Volvo, and is also a bestselling author. Her book, Capture Your Style, was on The New York Times best-seller list with her follow-up, Aimee Song: World of Style published in 2018. Her brand has expanded into what influencers dream of building.  Listen in as Aimee shares tips on building brands that last, and ways to grow a meaningful social media presence. This interview was recorded in front of a live audience at a Girlboss Rally with Sophia Amoruso. Watch this interview on Girlboss’s Youtube channel, here. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL  Stop stressing over email and use Mailman to shield you from unimportant emails. Minimize interruptions and make your days calmer and more productive. Try Mailman for free for three weeks at http://bit.ly/mailman_gb. If you like it, use the code GIRLBOSS to save 20% on your first year. Follow Aimee on Instagram at @songofstyle and @aimeesong Follow Girlboss on Instagram at @girlboss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Laura Allison Wasser is a highly respected author, entrepreneur, and Family Law expert. Most people know her as the divorce attorney to the stars. For over 20 years, she's represented A-list celebrities from Kim Kardashian, Angelina Jolie and Stevie Wonder. Laura is the senior partner at the law firm Wasser, Cooperman, Mandles. She is also the founder and C.E.O. of It's Over Easy, an accessible online service that makes divorce a hell of a lot less stressful—because, as she says, divorce terrifies everyone. Her mission is to empower couples to reclaim control over their own destinies. She has been named one of the California Daily Journal's Top 100 Lawyers and Southern California's Top 50 Women Attorneys every year for the last seven years. Laura is also the author of “How to Divorce Without Destroying Your Family or Bankrupting Yourself” and the host of "All's Fair With Laura Wasser," a podcast on iHeartRadio.  Listen in as Laura shares important advice on how anybody can negotiate like a lawyer, whether in the workplace or in relationships.  This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in 2019. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL  Stop stressing over email and use Mailman to shield you from unimportant emails. Minimize interruptions and make your days calmer and more productive. Try Mailman for free for three weeks at http://bit.ly/mailman_gb. If you like it, use the code GIRLBOSS to save 20% on your first year. This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in 2019. You can also watch this interview on Girlboss's Youtube channel, here. Follow Laura on Instagram at @laurawasserofficial and Twitter at @itsovereasy. Follow Girlboss on Instagram at @girlboss.

Laura Allison Wasser is a highly respected author, entrepreneur, and Family Law expert. Most people know her as the divorce attorney to the stars. For over 20 years, she’s represented A-list celebrities from Kim Kardashian, Angelina Jolie and Stevie Wonder. Laura is the senior partner at the law firm Wasser, Cooperman, Mandles. She is also the founder and C.E.O. of It’s Over Easy, an accessible online service that makes divorce a hell of a lot less stressful—because, as she says, divorce terrifies everyone. Her mission is to empower couples to reclaim control over their own destinies. She has been named one of the California Daily Journal’s Top 100 Lawyers and Southern California’s Top 50 Women Attorneys every year for the last seven years. Laura is also the author of “How to Divorce Without Destroying Your Family or Bankrupting Yourself” and the host of "All's Fair With Laura Wasser," a podcast on iHeartRadio.  Listen in as Laura shares important advice on how anybody can negotiate like a lawyer, whether in the workplace or in relationships.  This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in 2019. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL  Stop stressing over email and use Mailman to shield you from unimportant emails. Minimize interruptions and make your days calmer and more productive. Try Mailman for free for three weeks at http://bit.ly/mailman_gb. If you like it, use the code GIRLBOSS to save 20% on your first year. Follow Laura on Instagram at @laurawasserofficial and Twitter at @itsovereasy. Follow Girlboss on Instagram at @girlboss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sallie Krawcheck is an inspiring female founder, one of the most influential women in business, and a Girlboss Rally speaker. Sallie has worked on Wall Street for most of her career and was regularly called "the most powerful woman on Wall Street.” She eventually became the CEO of Merrill Lynch, Smith Barney, US Trust, the Citi Private Bank, and Sanford C. Bernstein. She was also Chief Financial Officer for Citigroup. Over the course of her impressive career in the finance world, Sallie witnessed widespread sexism and disregard of women's investing needs.  She’s now the CEO and Co-Founder of Ellevest, a digital investment platform built by women for women, and the chair of Ellevate Network, a global network for professional women.  In this episode, learn how Sallie turned a career on Wall Street into a mission to get more money into the hands of women, why not enough women are investing and how we can narrow the gender investing gap by providing women with the right education and tools to become better investors. This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in 2019 with Neha Gandhi. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL  Stop stressing over email and use Mailman to shield you from unimportant emails. Minimize interruptions and make your days calmer and more productive. Try Mailman for free for three weeks at http://bit.ly/mailman_gb. If you like it, use the code GIRLBOSS to save 20% on your first year. Follow Sallie on Linkedin at Sallie Krawcheck and Twitter at @SallieKrawcheck. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sallie Krawcheck is an inspiring female founder, one of the most influential women in business, and a Girlboss Rally speaker. Sallie has worked on Wall Street for most of her career and was regularly called "the most powerful woman on Wall Street.” She eventually became the CEO of Merrill Lynch, Smith Barney, US Trust, the Citi Private Bank, and Sanford C. Bernstein. She was also Chief Financial Officer for Citigroup. Over the course of her impressive career in the finance world, Sallie witnessed widespread sexism and disregard of women's investing needs.  She's now the CEO and Co-Founder of Ellevest, a digital investment platform built by women for women, and the chair of Ellevate Network, a global network for professional women.  In this episode, learn how Sallie turned a career on Wall Street into a mission to get more money into the hands of women, why not enough women are investing and how we can narrow the gender investing gap by providing women with the right education and tools to become better investors. This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in 2019 with Neha Gandhi. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL  Stop stressing over email and use Mailman to shield you from unimportant emails. Minimize interruptions and make your days calmer and more productive. Try Mailman for free for three weeks at http://bit.ly/mailman_gb. If you like it, use the code GIRLBOSS to save 20% on your first year. Follow Sallie on Linkedin at Sallie Krawcheck and Twitter at @SallieKrawcheck. Did you enjoy this episode of Girlboss Radio? Comment and let us know what you think on our Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and Facebook. 

Michelle Phan is the ultimate female entrepreneur, digital pioneer, and beauty superstar. You may know Michelle as one of YouTube's original superstars whose channel has received over 1 billion views, making her one of the most watched talents in the digital space.  She has built multiple multi-million dollar businesses including Ipsy, a makeup subscription company, EM Cosmetics, and most recently, Thematic, a marketplace that enables creators to find and use copyright-free songs from real artists in their videos. She has been featured on Forbes' 30 Under 30, Inc's 30 Under 30 Coolest Entrepreneurs, and Fast Company's Most Creative People in Business.  In this conversation with Neha Gandhi, Michelle shares her journey into entrepreneurship, rebranding herself, surviving burnout, her thoughts on business intuition, and the importance of recharging to gain clarity. This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in 2019. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL  Meal planning will never be the same again. Visit mealime.com/girlboss for 50% off a Pro subscription. Follow Michelle on Instagram at @michellephan and Twitter at @MichellePhan. Did you enjoy this episode of Girlboss Radio? Comment and let us know what you think on our Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and Facebook. 

Michelle Phan is the ultimate female entrepreneur, digital pioneer, and beauty superstar. You may know Michelle as one of YouTube’s original superstars whose channel has received over 1 billion views, making her one of the most watched talents in the digital space.  She has built multiple multi-million dollar businesses including Ipsy, a makeup subscription company, EM Cosmetics, and most recently, Thematic, a marketplace that enables creators to find and use copyright-free songs from real artists in their videos. She has been featured on Forbes' 30 Under 30, Inc’s 30 Under 30 Coolest Entrepreneurs, and Fast Company’s Most Creative People in Business.  In this conversation with Neha Gandhi, Michelle shares her journey into entrepreneurship, rebranding herself, surviving burnout, her thoughts on business intuition, and the importance of recharging to gain clarity. This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in 2019. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL  Meal planning will never be the same again. Visit mealime.com/girlboss for 50% off a Pro subscription. Follow Michelle on Instagram at @michellephan and Twitter at @MichellePhan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bozoma Saint John is a force of nature and one of the most sought after marketers and speakers on the planet. Her career trajectory has been carved through hard work, determination and unshakeable confidence. Bozoma was recently named Global Chief Marketing Officer at Netflix. Before that, she was the Chief Brand Officer at Ube and the Chief Marketing Officer for Endeavor, a global leader in entertainment, sports and fashion. She’s been on list after list, including Forbes’ Most Influential CMOs list and Black Enterprise’s Most Powerful Women in Business.  This conversation with Bozoma was recorded live in front of an audience at a Girlboss Rally before Boz was at Netflix—but her message is more relevant than ever, which is why we’re excited to share it today. Listen in and learn why Boz thinks women need to celebrate themselves (and their sisters!) more, hiring for diversity, hiring our friends, balancing our personal and professional lives-and how to tackle tough work situations—with men. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL Follow Bozoma Saint John on social media at @badassboz and read the show notes on our blog. Want to get more eyes on your job postings? Purchase a premium job posting and get featured in our limited Jobs section in the official Girlboss daily Newsletter — the go-to spot for women in business: https://jobs.girlboss.com Share your thoughts on this episode and more on Instagram at @Girlboss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bozoma Saint John is a force of nature and one of the most sought after marketers and speakers on the planet. Her career trajectory has been carved through hard work, determination and unshakeable confidence. Bozoma was recently named Global Chief Marketing Officer at Netflix. Before that, she was the Chief Brand Officer at Ube and the Chief Marketing Officer for Endeavor, a global leader in entertainment, sports and fashion. She's been on list after list, including Forbes' Most Influential CMOs list and Black Enterprise's Most Powerful Women in Business.  This conversation with Bozoma was recorded live in front of an audience at a Girlboss Rally before Boz was at Netflix—but her message is more relevant than ever, which is why we're excited to share it today. Listen in and learn why Boz thinks women need to celebrate themselves (and their sisters!) more, hiring for diversity, hiring our friends, balancing our personal and professional lives-and how to tackle tough work situations—with men. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL Follow Bozoma Saint John on social media at @badassboz and read the show notes on our blog. Want to get more eyes on your job postings? Purchase a premium job posting and get featured in our limited Jobs section in the official Girlboss daily Newsletter — the go-to spot for women in business: https://jobs.girlboss.com Share your thoughts on this episode and more on Instagram at @Girlboss.

Today, we're sharing an exclusive conversation between Sophia Amoruso and the iconic Paris Hilton. This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in Los Angeles in 2019. Paris let's us in on how she deals with internet trolls, why she was a born businesswoman, and shares behind-the-scenes details about her new documentary, This is Paris. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL Follow Paris Hilton on social media: @ParisHilton Watch This is Paris on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3nLz33h Meal planning will never be the same again. Visit mealime.com/girlboss for 50% off a Pro subscription! Share your thoughts on this episode over at Instagram at @Girlboss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today, we're sharing an exclusive conversation between Sophia Amoruso and the iconic Paris Hilton. This episode was recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in Los Angeles in 2019. Paris let's us in on how she deals with internet trolls, why she was a born businesswoman, and shares behind-the-scenes details about her new documentary, This is Paris. Sign up for the Girlboss Daily to receive tips on work, life, and how to chase (and reach!) your dreams: https://bit.ly/30A14AL Follow Paris Hilton on social media: @ParisHilton and read the show notes on our blog. Watch This is Paris on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3nLz33h Meal planning will never be the same again. Visit mealime.com/girlboss for 50% off a Pro subscription! Did you enjoy this episode of Girlboss Radio? Comment and let us know what you think on our Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and Facebook. You can also email us at radio@girlboss.com.

Puno Dostres aka maybe the coolest person I’ve ever spoken to is this week's guest. She’s a self-declared "slashie" - teacher /  digital designer / the founder of PeopleMaps, which is my favorite Instagram marketing tool and ilovecreatives - an online platform for creatives - it’s a job board and an education hub where Puno teaches some amazing courses. Puno has been a speaker at Create and Cultivate and Girlboss Rally which is next-level cool. This episode is a bit of a ramble, in the best way, but we talk about how getting laid off in the 2008 financial crisis might’ve been the best thing and her advice for others in similar situations now in 2020, following your path and not worrying so much about the future.  https://www.instagram.com/punodostres/ www.punodostres.com www.peoplemap.co www.ilovecreatives.com https://www.instagram.com/pickherbrainpodcast/

  I had the opportunity to exclusively interview best selling author, poet and performer Aija Mayrock. Aija self published her first book 'The Survival Guide to Bullying' when she was only 19-years-old which was then acquired by Scholastic and published all over the world. She has spoken to over four million people nationwide on bullying and mental health and joined Disney Channel's 'Choose Kindness' campaign. Aija has performed at the Girlboss Rally, Madison Square Gardens and worked with Coca Cola, American Girl and Philosophy. She was chosen as one of the Today Show's heroes in 2018 and has just written her second book 'Dear Girl' which is available to purchase on the 25th august. In this episode tuning in from New York City, Aiea and I talk about her new book, her writing process, what advice she would give her younger self, life in New York City, her favourite poets and poems and so much more.  Dear Girl  Aija Mayrock     

Today we’re sitting down with Puno Dostres web designer, digital creative, entrepreneur, and founder of ilovecreatives, People Map, Made With Map, and proud mama of Muad’Dib the cat. So your Pinterest boards, they equal having your shit together right? You got your home decor, the dream office, snazzy style references, maybe a pet board; and obviously the lifestyle that’s going to facilitate all of this!? Cue Puno. Unbeknownst, you may have heard this one’s contagious laughter from a distance (unmistakable once committed to memory), or perhaps you’re a little more intimate with the comings and goings of the queen slashie herself. It’s almost been five years since Puno first graced my then-teenage self’s screen, looking to youtube as a form of escape and community AKA vlogs. I saw someone who, in the light of day, had her shit together in the way that only my Pinterest boards spoke of. This chick had her ducks in a row. But the grass is always greener on the other side, and that’s not what we’re here to preach. Fast forward five years, Puno mentions that people from the outside looking in, say that the way with which she’s set up and navigates her life, almost seems like magic. And it is a little. But the good news is is that we don’t need to go all the way to Diagon Alley to stock up on the stuff; you already got it. It’s your essence, your zest. Before we get into what you’re bringing to the table, it’s about whether you want to be sitting at the table at all!? God forbid I look at the entirety of my life outside of career and finances, and see myself worthy of such. Honestly, this episode was as much of a rabbit hole moment for me, as it was in somewhat delivering a cohesive podcast ep. What can I say, it’s easy to get lost in other people’s brains. So there’ll be two parts. From Houston’s suburbs, her time at Activision and spearheading the Call of Duty franchise, to being a keynote speaker at the recent Girlboss Rally, and the exploration of self via the Meisner acting technique. Basically, threading together a dialogue through which we question the ecosystems of work-life-play and how it should fit around us, not us it #sustainableslashie This is Ep 30 Slashie This Way with Puno Dostres. You can find Puno Dostres at: http://www.punodostres.com/ https://ilovecreatives.com/ https://www.peoplemap.co/ https://www.madewithmap.com/ https://www.instagram.com/punodostres/ Please share your thoughts and show us some love by subscribing, or get in touch to be featured on the podcast! Released every other Monday - thanks for lending us an ear. https://www.gutsnglory.online/ https://www.instagram.com/gutssnglory/ yougotgutsyouareglory@gmail.com

Promise Tangeman is the CEO, Creative Director and certified digital marketing strategist of the web design agency, GoLive. It's mission: helping businesses launch the website of their dreams. GoLive has created over 3,000 websites (and counting!), for brands such as Girlboss, We Wore What, Sadie Robertson, A Beautiful Mess, Create & Cultivate, Jasmine Star, Life With Me by Marianna Hewitt, TLC's Randy Fenoli, Kendra Scott, WorkParty, and Margo & Me. Promise is an expert and thought leader in the following topics: the importance of defining and owning your niche; brand building; social media strategy; digital marketing; productivity and goal-setting (and goal-meeting!); the importance of focus and how to attain it; and on a lighter note, creating rad “workflow” Spotify playlists, combining current fashions with thrift store treasures; and mastering #hairgoals. Promise has spoken at conferences including The Girlboss Rally, Create & Cultivate, Yellow Conference, Circles Conference, Catalyst Conference, Alt Summit, and CreativeLive. Promise's business and design expertise have been featured in Forbes, Girlboss, Glitter Guide, Buzzfeed, Martha Stewart, and more. Here's what we cover during episode 046: How she started working on her business while working full-time How sharing her first projects on her blog, social media, and even MySpace helped her get clients How saving her money while working full-time helped her be take the leap to take her design business full-time How she tapped into all of her creative talents when she first started by doing it all (like photography, design, fine art, and even making dinosaur necklaces) After connecting with a mentor, she realized “doing it all” wasn't going to work long-run, and she decided to specialize in one thing How creating her own unique corner of the web helped her find her love for branding and web design What her transition from doing all the things to becoming a specialist looked like How being one of the only female designers out there who was blogging and showing off her work helped her stand out Who her first hire was and what that person did for her Her process for sharing her design projects early on her blog The story behind how GoLive HQ, Promise's web design company, was born How listening to her clients frustration of how long websites took gave her the idea to create 2-day workshops where people published their website in 2 days The platforms Promise used to help her ideal clients create their websites How she became a leading designer in our online space Tips for designers who want to market themselves on social media The types of services she offers in her business now What her process looks like for producing her Restyle service Her process for creating custom sites What she charges for each of her current services The story behind how she created her SquareSpace templates and the behind-the-scenes of how she runs that in tandem with her custom services Why her templates work really well for designers The inspiration behind her getaway for Designers, called Designer VACA How you can join one of her upcoming workshops Links mentioned: Connect with Promise on Instagram GoLive HQ Designer VACA   Like what you heard?  Click here to subscribe + leave a review on iTunes. Click here to join the free community!  Let's connect on Instagram!

On this episode of Girlboss Radio, Piera takes us on her journey from growing up in a small town in Maine to running a major media company in New York. Co-founder and executive creative director of Refinery29, Piera's colorful influence can be felt everywhere but especially in the dreamlike spectacle that is @29rooms, an interactive exhibition filled with art and experiences that Piera spearheaded. Inspired by everything from children's books to Guggenheim exhibits, Piera walks through the world with eyes and ears open, always ready to find her new creative endeavor. Tune in to hear more about how Piera met her co-founder and forever "work wife" and what adjusting to life as a new mom has been like. Recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in L.A.! To keep up with Piera Gelardi on Instagram, follow her here---> @pieraluisa 

On this episode of Girlboss Radio, Piera takes us on her journey from growing up in a small town in Maine to running a major media company in New York. Co-founder and executive creative director of Refinery29, Piera’s colorful influence can be felt everywhere but especially in the dreamlike spectacle that is @29rooms, an interactive exhibition filled with art and experiences that Piera spearheaded. Inspired by everything from children's books to Guggenheim exhibits, Piera walks through the world with eyes and ears open, always ready to find her new creative endeavor. Tune in to hear more about how Piera met her co-founder and forever "work wife" and what adjusting to life as a new mom has been like. Recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in L.A.! To keep up with Piera Gelardi on Instagram, follow her here---> @pieraluisa 

Thanks to our friends over at TUMI, we’re able to bring you a special, bonus episode of the podcast, recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in L.A.! On this episode of Girlboss Radio, Aurora walks us through how she founded Brother Vellies with just $3,500 dollars in her pocket. The goal, she says, was to introduce traditional African shoes to the rest of the world while adhering to ethical and sustainable fashion practices. Plus, she shares how she maintains a healthy relationship with social media and her thoughts on why brick-and-mortar stores still have a role to play in retail. And—least but not least—some news! Aurora is joining the Girlboss Radio Network as the host for the new season of In Progress, the podcast. We launched In Progress last year with our partners at TUMI and we are so stoked that they’ve decided to help us bring you another season. Tune in to hear what's in store for the new season.  Don't forget to subscribe to In Progress, wherever you get your podcasts! New episodes start August 22. http://playpodca.st/inprogress To find out more about how Tumi is perfecting the journey, go to https://www.tumi.com/To keep up with Aurora James, our host for Season 2 of In Progress, follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aurorajames/To shop Brother Vellies, go to https://brothervellies.com/

Thanks to our friends over at TUMI, we're able to bring you a special, bonus episode of the podcast, recorded live in front of an audience at the Girlboss Rally in L.A.! On this episode of Girlboss Radio, Aurora walks us through how she founded Brother Vellies with just $3,500 dollars in her pocket. The goal, she says, was to introduce traditional African shoes to the rest of the world while adhering to ethical and sustainable fashion practices. Plus, she shares how she maintains a healthy relationship with social media and her thoughts on why brick-and-mortar stores still have a role to play in retail. And—least but not least—some news! Aurora is joining the Girlboss Radio Network as the host for the new season of In Progress, the podcast. We launched In Progress last year with our partners at TUMI and we are so stoked that they've decided to help us bring you another season. Tune in to hear what's in store for the new season.  Don't forget to subscribe to In Progress, wherever you get your podcasts! New episodes start August 22. http://playpodca.st/inprogress To find out more about how Tumi is perfecting the journey, go to https://www.tumi.com/To keep up with Aurora James, our host for Season 2 of In Progress, follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aurorajames/To shop Brother Vellies, go to https://brothervellies.com/

Promise Tangeman is the CEO, Creative Director and certified digital marketing strategist of the web design agency, GoLive. It’s mission: helping businesses launch the website of their dreams. GoLive has created over 3,000 websites (and counting!), for brands such as Girlboss, We Wore What, Sadie Robertson, A Beautiful Mess, Create & Cultivate, Jasmine Star, Life With Me by Marianna Hewitt, TLC’s Randy Fenoli, Kendra Scott, WorkParty, and Margo & Me. Promise is an expert and thought leader in the following topics: the importance of defining and owning your niche; brand building; social media strategy; digital marketing; productivity and goal-setting (and goal-meeting!); the importance of focus and how to attain it; and on a lighter note, creating rad “workflow” Spotify playlists, combining current fashions with thrift store treasures; and mastering #hairgoals. Promise has spoken at conferences including The Girlboss Rally, Create & Cultivate, Yellow Conference, Circles Conference, Catalyst Conference, Alt Summit, and CreativeLive. Promise’s business and design expertise have been featured in Forbes, Girlboss, Glitter Guide, Buzzfeed, Martha Stewart, and more.   Promise's Instagram: https://instagram.com/promisetangeman/ Promise's Website: http://www.promisetangeman.com/ GoLive HQ: http://golivehq.co

Today I am happy to bring you my conversation with Laura Wasser, a family law attorney, author of It Doesn’t Have to Be That Way, entrepreneur, and family law expert. She is also the founder of the online divorce platform, it's over easy. Through her platform she provides an online divorce solution that guides men and women through every aspect of divorce, saving them tons of time and money. During our conversation, we discussed the varying aspects of divorce; from the outrageous price tag it can have (and why that may be) to the legal aspects of it all. Plus, we talk about the importance of communication and collaboration throughout the divorce process. Show Highlights The divorce price tag can be outrageous; the more conflict there is, the more you  pay (7:49) The number one difference between those that can divorce amicably and those who can't, and why time and acceptance matter (11:36) Why emotional decision making is often a terrible idea (14:12) California cooling off period—what it is and what it means (15:02) Figuring out a better way of communicating pre-and post-divorce (19:45) Laura talks about her first book, It Doesn’t Have to Be That Way,  and why she was moved to write it (22:43) Divorce culture, then and now, and cultural distinctions in divorce (26:23) Premarital counseling and why it can be so healthy and important to a marriage(33:44) Stay-at-home moms and their fear of not being able to support themselves after divorce (36:17) Being financially aware of what is going on in your marriage and how marriage is a partnership, so you need to treat it like one (39:38) Learn More About Laura: Attorney Laura Allison Wasser is an author, entrepreneur, and Family Law expert. She is the founder of the online divorce platform, it’s over easy. Laura is frequently called upon as the preeminent voice on TV, in print and across the media landscape in newsworthy matters regarding Divorce and Family Law. In 2018 Laura participated as a featured speaker at both the Women In The World Summit and Girlboss Rally. Profiles and interviews on Laura can be found in Vogue, Bloomberg News, Porter Magazine, Interview, The Wall Street Journal, Vanity Fair, The Hollywood Reporter, People Magazine, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Town and Country, Parenting magazine and more. Links:Laura’s websiteLaura’s Podcast: Divorce SucksLaura on social media:https://www.instagram.com/laurawasserofficial/ https://www.instagram.com/itsovereasy/ https://twitter.com/itsovereasy https://www.facebook.com/itsovereasy/ Resources:Should I Stay or Should I Go Self-StudyLaura’s Online Divorce Made EasyOur Family WizardCoparenterPolicy GeniusWorthy

Shea and Maddie are joined by Olivia Christian (@oliviachristian.co), who runs the amazing workshop "Own Your Story" all over the country! The three discuss millennial work culture, getting paid as a soloprenuer, the concept of "self made", and how Olivia created her workshop and got on the Girlboss Rally stage! Connect with Olivia: The Game Last Night Youtube Show: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCVETD3DeW7Qo6M0Xzqsysg Website: oliviachristian.co Instagram: oliviachristian.co Email: olivia@oliviachristian.co Links to Things Discussed in the Episode: Camp Adulthood episode where Maddie details her time at Olivia's workshop at the Girlboss Rally: https://soundcloud.com/user-215536382/episode-70-shea-and-maddie-friendship-podcast-14 Millennials are Putting Off Having Kids (NYTimes): https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/style/the-edit-millennial-parents.html Influencers Aren't the Problem (Buzzfeed): https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salmaelwardany/dont-hate-the-influencers-hate-the-game Connect with Camp Adulthood: Website: campadulthood.com Email: hello@campadulthood.com Twitter/Instagram: @camp_adulthood Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/campadulthood/?ref=bookmarks

Founding Girl Boss Editor Jerico Mandybur stops by to talk about Girl Boss, self care, and her new deck/ book, Neo Tarot.Jerico Mandybur was the founding editorial director of Girlboss and host of the podcast Self Service. She is a writer, commentator and an intuitive guide, offering tarot reading and reiki healing. She's also a spiritual self-care coach dedicated to intersectional healing. Her first book/deck is Neo Tarot: A fresh approach to self-care, healing, and empowerment, out April 2. Her work has been featured everywhere from Refinery29, The Guardian, ABC, Brit+Co, Bust Magazine and more, and she's appeared on stage at speaking events from Girlboss Rally, Pinterest's In The Making, Teen Vogue Summit, and Girl School.Link to buy Neo Tarot: http://smarturl.it/NeoTarot This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. BetterHelp is an online counseling service that provides affordable care from the comfort of your own home. Use this link for your free week of counseling: BetterHelp.com/witchyThis episode is sponsored by Tonic CBD wellness products. Tonic's hemp-derived CBD and botanical blends create a completely holistic method to help you feel your best and  #fixyourvibe. Go to tonicvibes.com and use code WITCHY for 10% off your purchase.

On this week's special friendship podcast, full of rants and content about how much Maddie and Shea love each other, the 2 discuss the ~new logo design~ by Sara Radin (check it out on insta @camp_adulthood), Christmas tree shopping, the Girlboss Rally, exorcism and crystals, finding your personal brand, and some unpopular but true opinions on Jon Snow and Drake! Links to Things Discussed in the Episode: The Atlantic on Exorcisms: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/catholic-exorcisms-on-the-rise/573943/ Rachel Epstein story on Karena Evans (Marie Claire): https://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a22786531/karena-evans-drake-music-video-director-interview/ Connect with Camp Adulthood Online: Website: campadulthood.com Email: hello@campadulthood.com Twitter/Instagram: @camp_adulthood Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/campadulthood/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/camp_adulthood

An interview with family law attorney Laura A. Wasser, Esq. Curt and Katie talk with Laura about the process of divorce, collaboration among professionals, and the creation of her online divorce mediation platform, it’s over easy. It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age. Interview with Laura A. Wasser, Esq. C.E.O. of it’s over easy & Host of The Divorce Sucks! Podcast Attorney Laura Allison Wasser is an author, entrepreneur, and Family Law expert. She is the founder and Chief Executive Officer of the online divorce platform, it’s over easy. Laura has represented celebrities like Kim Kardashian, Ryan Reynolds, Angelina Jolie, Jimmy Iovine, Maria Shriver, and Stevie Wonder, but she maintains that divorce is the great equalizer—it terrifies everyone. Laura’s made it her mission to change that by creating it’s over easy, which gives divorcing couples an easy to use resource to dissolve their marriage that is accessible (and affordable) to everyone. In 2013, Laura authored the New York Times best-seller, It Doesn’t Have to Be That Way: How to Divorce Without Destroying Your Family and Bankrupting Yourself. This year, she created it’s over easy and launched the weekly Divorce Sucks! Podcast Hosted By Laura Wasser. By simplifying the divorce process online and sharing her vast experience in Family Law with her audience, couples are empowered to reclaim control over their own destinies. Laura is determined to change the face of divorce by providing education, tools and support for families going through the process. As a graduate of the UC, Berkeley, Laura earned her law degree from Loyola Law School. She has been named one of the California Daily Journal’s Top 100 Lawyers and Top 50 Women Attorneys every year for the last seven years (2012-2018). She has been featured on The Hollywood Reporter’s Power Lawyers, Los Angeles Magazine’s Super Lawyers and The Best Lawyers in America. In June 2008, Laura received the Harriet Buhai Center for Family Law Zephyr Ramsey Award and in 2011, she was the recipient of the Century City Chamber of Commerce Women of Achievement Award. Laura received the Brady Center Advocate Award in 2013. In 2016 Laura was honored by A Place Called Home at their Gala For The Children. Laura is frequently called upon as the preeminent voice on TV, in print and across the media landscape in newsworthy matters regarding Divorce and Family Law. Earlier this year, Laura participated as a featured speaker at both the 2018 Women In The World Summit and Girlboss Rally. Profiles and interviews on Laura can be found in Vogue, Bloomberg News, Porter Magazine, Interview, The Wall Street Journal, Vanity Fair, The Hollywood Reporter, People Magazine, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Town and Country, Parenting magazine and more. In this episode we talk about: Laura’s background in Family Law, her book It Doesn’t Have to Be That Way How Laura perceives the importing distinctions between being an empathic “divorce” lawyer and being a therapist How people can navigate through divorce by yourselves, without needing to bring in a divorce attorney The different mechanisms to get a divorce and how to decide which referral to make How Laura collaborates with therapists and decides to refer to therapists The importance of handling divorce well for moving forward in your life Her opinions on how to help families get through the process Boundaries that attorneys should set within their work Her referral network, how she develops her referral network The turn off of therapists talking too much about their own experiences Reminding ourselves that we are being observed by those who we are collaborating with The shock of mental health providers breaking confidentiality with her How she launched her product out to the market (online divorce platform) Her logic on how she created the platform, with all the pieces considered The flak she got from some other attorneys Connecting divorcing individuals to all the resources they need to move through the process effectively Addressing the broken, clogged up court system How to create closure when getting divorced The power of helping people get the knowledge they need   Resources mentioned: We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. It Doesn’t Have to be That Way: How to Divorce Without Destroying Your Family or Bankrupting Yourself  by Laura Wasser it’s over easy it’s over easy blog: Co-Parenting with an Asshole   Our Generous Sponsor: Thanks again to our sponsor, SimplePractice! SimplePractice is an all in one platform where you can schedule appointments, use paperless intakes, file insurance claims, and meet with clients remotely using our integrated Telehealth system. Go to https://ter.li/tr2018 to sign up for a free 30 day trial. Because running your practice should be Simple, so you can do the work that really matters.   Who we are: Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby. Learn more about Curt at www.curtwidhalm.com. Katie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world. Learn more about Katie at www.katievernoy.com. A Quick Note: Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it. Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice, and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey. Stay in Touch: www.mtsgpodcast.com https://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/ https://twitter.com/therapymovement https://www.instagram.com/therapyreimagined/ Credits: Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/ Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Ivka Adam is the founder and CEO of Iconery, a venture-backed jewelry company that powers the collections for Rashida Jones, Jen Gotch, Michelle Branch, and has done collaborations with Goop, Nordstrom X Nike, and many others. Ivka is also widely celebrated as a speaker at some of the most iconic events including Women’s Wear Daily Summits, Create & Cultivate, the Girlboss Rally, and Advertising Week. She is a world-class hiker/backpacker who has summited Mt. Kilimanjaro, Mt. Whitney 5 times (and counting), the West Face of Mt. Shasta, and she regularly hikes the John Muir Trail and Trans-Catalina Trails in California. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On this 2nd edition special episode, you'll hear inspirational stories and advice from more remarkable women who spoke at the recent Girlboss Rally in L.A., like fashion entrepreneur Jen Gotch, venture capitalist Sarah Kunst, Beautycon CEO Moj Mahdara, divorce attorney to the stars Laura Wasser and Female Quotient CEO Shelley Zalis.

On this 2nd edition special episode, you'll hear inspirational stories and advice from more remarkable women who spoke at the recent Girlboss Rally in L.A., like fashion entrepreneur Jen Gotch, venture capitalist Sarah Kunst, Beautycon CEO Moj Mahdara, divorce attorney to the stars Laura Wasser and Female Quotient CEO Shelley Zalis.

Josh is back on the mic this week for an update on all things business and things that have come to fruition lately that relate to our padrinos/madrinas and sponsors. Betsy gives an update on her takeaway from attending the Girlboss Rally and United State of Women event. Plus, we talk about a new mindfulness practice we tried recently.  Follow me: @betsyaimeec Follow Josh:@nativedecay  Our business: @borninjunecreative.  Show notes on betsyaimee.com     

On this special episode of Girlboss Radio, we're speaking to some of the remarkable thought leaders and game-changing women who spoke at the recent Girlboss Rally in LA. Soak up some of the magic and inspiration of the rally at home, with Girlboss editors and guests like actor Jameela Jamil, speaker and advocate Lizzie Velasquez, Arlan Hamilton of Backstage Capital, poet Aija Mayrock and more. Presented in partnership with Secret. 

On this special episode of Girlboss Radio, we're speaking to some of the remarkable thought leaders and game-changing women who spoke at the recent Girlboss Rally in LA. Soak up some of the magic and inspiration of the rally at home, with Girlboss editors and guests like actor Jameela Jamil, speaker and advocate Lizzie Velasquez, Arlan Hamilton of Backstage Capital, poet Aija Mayrock and more. Presented in partnership with Secret. 

Welcome back! We’re pumped to have you here for Season 2. Here to kick us off is Neha Gandhi, the COO and editor-in-chief of Girlboss, a new publication “for women redefining success on their own terms.” Sounds about right to us. Neha told us all about her start in journalism, what it’s like to manage teams of mostly women, and how group texts with her friends keep her grounded (you’ll LOVE the rosebud and thorn analogy, promise). > First of all, maybe it’s ok to be selfish and put yourself first, and put your career first at times. But also, ambition is not a dirty word. That said, none of us feel ambitious all the time, and none of us have exactly the same idea of what success looks like. > —Neha Gandhi, editor-in-chief and COO, Girlboss Plus: Having good and bad managers, being good and bad managers, and what we’re doing to cut noninclusive and ableist language from the show. Y’all ready? Link love If you enjoy our convo about manager-ing, check this advice column from The Cut about being a better manager by being vulnerable with your team. Get more on Neha’s background with this interview, and follow her on Twitter for more on pop culture, politics, and the media industry. To hear from speakers like Paola Mendoza and Janet Mock, register for the Girlboss Rally livestream on April 28. For more on the topic of gratefulness and negotiating, check out this advice on how to negotiate when you’re being promoted. And if you’re interested in learning more about inclusive language—and maybe tweaking some of your own habits—check out this list of ableist words and the Conscious Style Guide. Use Slack at work? See if you can get your company to customize Slackbot to nudge your team when they use noninclusive language. Sponsors This episode of NYG is brought to you by: Shopify, a leading global commerce platform that’s building a diverse, intelligent, and motivated team—and they  want to apply to you. Visit shopify.com/careers to see what they’re talking about. _WordPress—the place to build your personal blog, business site, or anything else you want on the web. WordPress helps others find you, remember you, and connect with you. _ Transcript Katel LeDû Shopify builds products that help entrepreneurs around the world start and grow their businesses. Starting from a few people obsessed with personal growth, Shopify is now a team of 3,000 folks working in offices and remote teams across the globe. They’re growing quickly and building an international team that will define the future of entrepreneurship. Visit shopify.com/careers to find out what they’re working on. [Music fades in, plays for nine seconds, fades out]. [0:32] Jenn Lukas Welcome to Season 2 of No, You Go: the show about being ambitious—and sticking together. I’m Jenn Lukas. KL I’m Katel LeDû. Sara Wachter-Boettcher And I’m Sara Wachter-Boettcher, and I’m so excited here for our first episode of Season 2 because we have so much good stuff in store. We are kicking things off today by sharing an awesome interview with Girlboss editor-in-chief and COO Neha Gandhi. She talks to us about building a career in publishing through a dramatically changing landscape, how to redefine success for ourselves, and why talking about money is so difficult. She also talks a lot about what it’s like to grow as a manager. And, actually, can we start there today? KL Yeah, I feel like that—listening to her talk brought up so many sort of thoughts and memories about, you know, just my career as it’s gone so far, and how I’ve had good managers and bad managers, and I feel like having both of those things has helped me grow as a manager, like when I became one for the first time. It was a really sort of frankly awkward situation because I was working in a team of people and I was most of those people’s peers and some of those people’s junior. Like I, you know, I was sort of at a level below and all of a sudden I was their manager. And it was really—a really interesting shift because I had to kind of like not just learn how to manage the team and make them feel like I was there, you know, doing the job well. It wasn’t just awkward, it was also really challenging because I was learning how to be a manager and that in and of itself is like: how do you run processes? How do you manage workflows? How do you, you know, keep things running? But then how do you also you know get the people on the team to feel like you’re there doing the right job, you’re the right person for the job, and you have their best interests in mind. And, for me, I think going directly from being, you know, sort of working with those people at—at the exact same level to being a manager was like … I realized that the more I included them in the process of like me getting up to speed, the more investment they would have in the team succeeding and like moving forward. JL That’s so neat, because [sighs] there’s so many parts to being a manager. So many things to learn and constantly learn even once you’ve been a manager for awhile. But to then also feel you have to prove yourself because you didn’t come into the role as a manager. You transitioned to the role of a manager. It just puts on a whole new layer of things to consider when, you know, trying to really rock your job as a manager. [3:11] KL And especially when you’re, you know, either at a job or a company where there’s either a super strict or defined management style. Like if it’s extremely hierarchical or, I don’t know, not a lot of room for growth. So it’s like not as clear when people become managers or not. Or it’s loosely defined and you’re kind of like trying to figure that out. I think it’s—it’s so hard to identify when you’re a good manager, or when you’re, you know, not being good at that. SWB I remember I first became a manager—I was in my twenties and I was working at an agency and I went from being sort of like the only person doing content strategy and web writing related stuff to taking on sort of like this broader strategic role and bringing in somebody who I managed who was a writer. And then all of a sudden from there I went from having this one direct report to having a team of six staff and two interns who reported to me. And I became a director at the company which meant, you know, at this agency of like 40 people and meant that I reported directly to the owners and I was in all of the senior management meetings, and … there was no advice or guidance about what I was supposed to be doing. And not only that, there wasn’t anybody to take over a lot of the client work that I was responsible [mm hmm mm hmm] … and as a result, I was really overwhelmed and I had these people reporting to me who were great, but I didn’t feel like I was there enough for, and I wasn’t sure how to be there for them. And, you know, about half of them I really felt like I was an appropriate person to be their manager. And the other half felt like, they need a team. And I, you know, like my boss, the owner, was basically like, “We need them to roll up into somebody’s team and, like, you’re it!” [Chuckles] And like that’s not a good reason to have somebody report to you. And—but it created this scenario where, you know, like how was I going to guide and support them if I wasn’t totally sure that I really should be their manager in the first place? [KL Totally] And, you know, what—what I remember most about that experience was that I felt like the most important thing I could do in that moment, given what was available to me, was that I needed to advocate for the people on my team to the other senior managers and to the owners of the company because it was such a like weird transitional time. That was really important and I spent a lot of time there. But, you know, as a result, like I think—I think I did good at that. I did a lot of that. But what I think I did really bad at was being there for them individually, right? So like being able to hold one-on-ones with them and hear about the work that they were struggling with, where they wanted to grow, the sort of individual piece of it. And part of it was that I didn’t have time. I mean I really didn’t have time. But another big part of it was that I didn’t really know how to do that. And that’s like the biggest thing that if I—if I were going to manage a traditional team again, I would want to learn to get better at. JL I can relate so much to what you’re saying. I manage a team now. At Urban, I’m an Engineering Manager. And I … also have always struggled with how do I be a manager and also be an engineer? And I’ve talked to so many other engineering managers that have the same struggle of trying to find that, you know, balance. I’m always trying to find a balance somewhere. And so one of the things I did—I had talked to my manager about some of the stress I was having because I was feeling like I wasn’t doing—I thought I was doing a good job, but I didn’t think I was doing a great job in that I was having a real struggle going from, ok, in the morning, maybe I’d have a touch base, and then later I’d have to go to a meeting about, you know, design specs, and then maybe the next day I’d have another touch base with another direct report. And it was just really hard for me to constantly do the context switching. And so I started instituting Manager Monday, and Manager Monday is where basically I’d come in on Mondays and I’d hold all my touch bases with my direct reports on Mondays. It varies with my direct reports based on how often they want to meet and discuss. So some people I have biweekly touch bases with, some people I have every month, every three weeks, it just depends on the desires of my direct report. And I’ve just now scheduled them all on Monday. Which means: I come in Monday, and that is my focus. I’m going to focus on the management roles of, you know, my job. And it’s really helped me because then I don’t have to context switch back and forth. I come in on Monday, I say, “This is what I’m here for today.” So if other questions get asked, my calendar’s essentially all booked the entire day with management meetings or I block off time to, you know, just work on other things that are directly manager-related. And that has just I feel helped my relationships with my direct reports and my workload so much because I really feel like I can always be there on that day and be in the headspace for it. And like it doesn’t always work, you know, sometimes I’m out, sometimes the direct report is out, sometimes something comes up that I’ll have to move it to like, oh no, Manager Tuesday which doesn’t sound nearly as good [someone else laughs] but you know then it’s like a one off. [8:18] KL That’s so great. I think that’s something that I struggle with, you know, running a business that—I work with all freelancers, all remote folks, you know. This is no one’s full-time job, which has, I think, made it difficult sometimes to have everyone feel like they’re part of, you know, a singular team. And they don’t necessarily need to, but I’ve looked for ways to try to make that happen as much as it’s comfortable and possible for people. But I think that’s been so important because everyone—when you feel like you’re, you know, kind of cruising towards the same goal it’s—it just helps a lot. So. And it’s really beneficial for me because it makes me feel like I’m not just [chuckling] like out there, you know, on my own. JL Yeah, at Urban we had combined engineering teams. So we had a engineering team at Anthropologie and an engineering team at Urban Outfitters and we’re now combined under one team, starting about a year and a half ago. And one of the things that was interesting there was you took two teams and now we’re meshing them together it’s not like—you have to build a new culture! Because all of a sudden you just have a whole new team of people. And so we started a Urban Education and Culture Club where we tried to come up with activities for people to sort of get together and learn from each other and meet each other. And it sort of expanded to the whole building, so not just engineers but other people that are working on the websites and some [?]. And we use a Trello board to manage some of this [laughing]. So what we do is like drop things in like, “Topics People Wanna Learn,” or maybe people want to have, you know, a clicks watching party we did one time. Or, you know, a bowling happy hour. And just ways that we can get together and sort of sometimes it’s … you don’t want to force culture, but sometimes you do have to shape it. And like, you know, help build relationships by having planned activities. Things don’t just happen naturally. You don’t put 200 people in a building and be like, “Ok! Now everyone know each other and be friends.” So I think it’s ok to force a little activities on people—but things that help people learn to grow with each other. [10:19] KL And ultimately that—I think that helps people learn how to work with each other too [mm hmm]. Can I steal that? A Culture Club Apart or something? JL I love it. KL Great [all laugh]. SWB I mean I—I like thinking about how we build cultures and how we shape cultures because I think, you know, in—in industries like tech, oftentimes it’s like people substitute perks for culture [mm hmm]. So it’s like, “Oh we have free beer and ping pong.” Or whatever, right? Like there’s the stereotypes and often that’s like literally what they have and it’s like that is not a culture. [Mm hmm] And sometimes that can create really problematic cultures because it’s like, you know, you get super alcohol-centered or you end up with a culture that’s super male driven, and you don’t really have activities that women feel comfortable participating in, or lots of problems. But I think the big underlying thing is that those perks are not culture. Like culture is something you have to create and foster and [mm hmm] like facilitate and then over time you have to sustain it and all of that is work. And I think that work is super important, it’s not talked about enough, and oftentimes it’s like super devalued. Right? It’s like, that’s the office mom’s job as opposed to a fundamental part of having a workplace that is healthy and, therefore, also productive. JL During my one-on-ones with direct reports we’ll come up with goals and talk about, you know, things and that very often is technical related but sometimes it’s more about building the sharing community of our group. So one of my direct reports wanted to start basically like a code sharing thing which didn’t have to do directly and necessarily with the work we were doing on Urban but any technical problems. So we have something instead of a round table, we call it the dev square table. So we brought the dev square table where we could just look at different pieces of code, either for Urban or outside of the company and, you know, talk about it and share it with each other. So sort of a show and tell for code. Which is really neat because it just gave us a chance to just sit around and—and talk—talk code with each other, which was awesome. Another that we’ve done there was developer’s cinema lunch which then another one of my direct reports, when I went on maternity leave, took over and made it sort of… we’d bring popcorn and it ended up moving outside of lunch. So, don’t worry, we weren’t just eating popcorn for lunch [laughs]. But it was really neat. You know she sort of took what I had and enhanced it by having, basically, we’d watch a video and then discuss it. Talk about like things that we learned in the video. And it just gave us more of a chance to really learn and grow from each other. So it’s really neat, I feel like, to work—to help just outsource it. So it doesn’t become like an office mom thing, but you’re working with the whole team, for the whole team to take part of growing that culture. [12:48] SWB You know, speaking of building culture, that’s definitely something that I thought was really interesting in Neha’s interview. When she joined Girl Boss, it was just a fledgling startup organization and she’s really trying to build that out and figure out what that culture should be there. And so why don’t we go ahead and listen to that interview? KL [Music fades in] Yeah let’s do it. [Music ramps up, plays alone for four seconds, fades out.] KL If you visited us at noyougoshow.com, then you know it’s our hub online. And we use WordPress to run it, because it gives us the freedom and flexibility to share our voices, our way. Make your site your own when you build it with WordPress. No need to do any coding or design, and the WordPress customer support team is there 24/7 to help you get your site working smoothly. And plans start at just four dollars per month. Start building your website today. Go to wordpress.com/noyougo for 15 percent off any new plan purchase. That’s wordpress.com/noyougo for 15 percent off your brand-new website [music fades in and out]. KL Neha Gandhi is the editor-in-chief and chief operating officer of Girlboss, one of our favorite magazines and communities. She’s been building a career in publishing for over a decade, navigating the editorial world at publications like People, Harper’s Bazaar, Seventeen Magazine, and Refinery29. Excuse us while we brush the stars from our eyes. Neha, we are so excited to talk to you. Welcome to No, You Go. Neha Gandhi Thank you so much for having me. I’m so excited to be here. KL Awesome. You’ve had an exciting career in publishing so far, one I’m sure that has been a ton of work. Can you tell us a little bit about your path? NG So I graduated from college a little uncertain all through college about what would I really wanted to do. I think I found my path really through a process of elimination more than anything else. “Oh, I worked at a congressman’s office. Maybe that’s not for me.” “Management consulting: not for me. This non-profit: not for me.” So then I ended up interning at People Magazine one summer right before I graduated and loved it. Except that when I graduated I was like, “Oh I have this one amazing internship, surely I can get a job!” So I was looking for a magazine job and the competition was fierce. Everyone else who was applying for these jobs had had, you know, 10 different editorial internships over the course of four years in college and I had been doing a lot of different things that I, now looking back, really appreciated, but at the time was like, “Oh. I’m not going to be able to find a job.” So I didn’t find a job right out of school. [15:22] NG [Continued] I moved to New York for an internship that paid minimum wage at InStyle. And I’m really grateful for that opportunity. I learned how to fact check, I sat with the copy editors, and I, you know, developed an attention to detail and was able to work on some really cool pages, and do some research. And then I moved over to Meredith which I was a freelance editorial assistant and I got the opportunity to do the job … as like maternity fill-in for the senior fashion and beauty editor. And I think that that was just a great opportunity that came my way probably because they didn’t have the money to really bring on someone for maternity cover. But it really taught me the value of saying, “Oh, yeah, that’s an opportunity. I will absolutely do it. Do I know how to do that job? Definitely not. Do I think I can figure out in the fly? Probably.” So I got to do that and that was where I learned to properly assign, how to edit, how to think about an editorial calendar, and I learned about publishing on the web for the first time there. So that was great and when she came back, they were like, “You know, you probably want to move on and find another job because you don’t really want to go back to that freelance editorial assistant role that you came in for.” So I did. I moved over to Harper’s Bazaar and I started out as an editorial assistant there and then was the online editor there and I, you know, got to sort of help with research, I got to assist, I got to work on the website, which at that time involved a twice a month refresh that, you know, was me adapting some stories from the magazine, taking them down to the 14th floor in the Hearst Tower on like CD-ROM and having them like hard code the website twice a month. So it was a really [chuckles] different time [someone else chuckles] for internet publishing [yeah] but that was great. I learned, you know, everything I know about having proper work ethic and how magazines are run I learned at Bazaar. Well and from there our managing editor at Bazaar went over to Seventeen and he brought me over with him after a couple of months and I got to be the associate lifestyle editor there, and then I took over some of the entertainment pages, and then eventually took over the website, and I was at Seventeen probably for four years, and that was a lot of fun as well, and that was the first time I really had my own pages, and got to contribute in a very different and I got to conceive of ideas, and put them through the entire process, and write stories, and edit stories, and fact check, and all of that good stuff. Um it’s where I became a real editor. And then after that I moved to Refinery29 and I was there for about six years. And I, honestly, just loved the website. I was a big fan of the brand. God, I got to be the deputy editor there, the executive editor there, I got to grow that editorial team from probably eight people to over a hundred, and then I moved into a role as VP of editorial strategy, and got to sort of bridge the divide between editorial, and marketing, and content strategy, and product, and then eventually moved into a role as the SVP of content strategy and innovation, where I really got to dig into analytics and data and think about how do we use the signals—the many, many signals that we get from this audience—to make the best possible work that we can? Things that allow us to grow as a business and be as strategic as possible without ever … sacrificing the quality of the work, and of the brand. And that was really fun. And I probably could’ve stayed there forever because, you know, you stay somewhere for six years in publishing years that feels like three or four lifetimes. I ultimately ended up leaving to take the job that I’m in now at Girlboss because it felt like a big adventure. I met Sophia, the founder of Girlboss, she wrote the book Girlboss in 2014, probably last January, and she and I met over drinks at the hotel she was staying at, and she really talked to me about her vision for what we could build here. We wanted to make less content but really go deep with it and have a lot of purpose and just really add value to this woman’s life. And I got so excited about that. I sort of couldn’t stop thinking about it, which I think is always a good sign when you’re thinking about a new job or making a move. [20:00] NG [Continued] So we had that conversation for a few months and then I finally, officially, accepted in April and I started here in July and we’ve just been sort of … head down trying to get this thing off the ground, and really delivering the promise of what Girlboss can be. SWB So one of the things that really came out as you were sort of going through that story and that trajectory was this sort of shift in thinking that happened along the way, at some point, which is like from this idea of online publishing being somehow like sort of the second-rate piece of it to being something that was really fascinating to you. And I’m curious, like, how did that shift happen for you or what made that shift happen for you, where you saw sort of a big potential for your career to be doing something interesting that was online focused and like online explicitly? NG I think some of that started when I was at Seventeen, partially because the internet changed and because publishing changed, and editors-in-chief and publishers were much more willing to sort of, you know, start thinking about the internet not as a thing that’s going to cannibalize your newsstand sales but as a thing where you can talk to your audience, and you can tell meaningful stories, and you can potentially even make money. That sounds so ridiculous saying that out loud right now but that was really a concern. That was the concern for most magazine publishers in the early 2000s. You know, “That’s never going to be a place where we make money, the internet. So we want to protect all of our hard work from sort of just being given away for free over there.” But that thinking started to shift and at Seventeen I really saw the power of that and especially talking to a teenage audience, you want to be on the internet. You want to be there with them on their social platforms, you want to be tweeting at them, and that was where we got to do really fun programs like I would, you know, live tweet “Glee,” and “Pretty Little Liars,” and all the shows that teenagers were watching then, and then I would take the tweets that our audience was um sharing back, and I would create more storytelling out of it. And that was so much fun, and that felt like what storytelling on the internet could be, suddenly I saw the power of that in a whole new way. So I really credit Seventeen and the editor in chief at the time, Ann Shoket, as well as Julie Hochheiser, who was overseeing the website when I started there because these are people who really were able to understand what could the internet be for this audience, and how do we really maximize its potential? So that was really fun but there was also a part of it that was … it was easier to get a more senior job if you make a shift to the internet. And I don’t know that that’s true today because the business models have changed so much and I think, you know, publishing is a tough place to be these days. But in 2010 I knew like in a very sort of like cut and dry way that if I wanted that deputy editor title, I was going to get it much faster moving to a place that was a startup like Refinery that was internet only, rather than waiting to get there at a print magazine. [23:09] KL So there’s probably not a lot that’s like quote/unquote “typical” about, you know, your day to day but can you—can you just tell us a little bit about what, you know, what you might do in a typical day? NG It’s so fun working at a startup at this stage because what that is changes everyday, and what I try to do for myself is um we have a weekly team stand up, 10am on Mondays, where everyone goes through and says their one priority for the week, and I think at a startup at this stage that’s really hard, and at first we got some pushback that was like, “I can’t pick just one thing. I have a hundred things on my list. Like I could [chuckles] no sooner, you know, choose a star in the heavens.” But that has shifted a little bit and having that meeting has really forced people to prioritize and say, “Ok, it’s Monday today, and what’s the one thing that I need to do in order to feel like I’ve really accomplished something meaningful by Friday?” So that’s how we really think about our time here. So every week is probably different but we set that priority on Monday for each of us and, you know, right now my priority is really thinking about the Girl Boss rally which is coming up on April 28th and we actually moments ago just sold out of our last ticket. So um I’m really excited. We’re going to have a full house and just amazing speakers but that’s really where I’m laser focused right now. So I have meetings with the team. I do a one-on-one for an hour every week with each of my direct reports, and I have an incredible art director, an incredible editorial director, an incredible head of audience, and then an editorial assistant who report to me, and I’ll have their own direct reports, as well as I always do a team meeting with all of those three team leads, and then make sure that I have time with my partner on the revenue side, Alison Wyatt, who’s our incredible CRO and president, to connect probably twice a week. So those are the standing things that happen every week and then I really try to think about how can I make sure that the rest of what I’m doing this week is less about checking things off my to-do list and like dealing with small stuff, obviously important stuff comes up all the time, but it’s less about sort of that like tactical like just check mark work and more about driving toward that priority that I set at the beginning of the week. And I think that that sets me up to be much more successful. KL Yeah, absolutely. And I think, you know, we all occasionally have bad days. If you are ever having a bad day, is—what’s something that you do to kind of work like work through that and get back on track? [25:39] NG I have been forcing myself, and this is the advice I give to everyone on my team as well: if you’re having a bad day, if you’re feeling frustrated, and especially if that frustration is about to manifest itself as a snippy email, or as like some form of written communication that maybe you’re not going to feel great about later, take a step back. Like actually physically stand up, take three deep breaths, and if you still feel that way, like you’re just unsettled, or you don’t have an answer, get up, leave the office right now and we work here in Silver Lake at this beautiful space at Sunset Junction. We have like this like—I don’t know, I just moved to California six months ago so I’m still blown away by the natural beauty of everything here. But we have this beautiful space and a basketball court, and I’m like, take advantage of that, right? And I try to do this myself: stand up, go for a walk outside for at least five minutes, but that really does help me because I think that mental reset of like: stand up, go outside, see the sun shining, get some fresh air, and like just like clear your mind for a second. Like that really helps because I think a lot of those like mental tricks, like I need the like physical trick to trigger a reset for me. SWB [Chuckles] I was just thinking about how, like, one of the ways that I know that I need to take a moment [KL laughs] is I can hear myself like kind of angry typing. So if I’m writing an email [laughter] and it’s like CLACK, CLACK, CLACK, CLACK, CLACK really aggressively, I’m like, “Hmm, I’m going to take a moment on that one.” But I was just, you know, I was just talking with a friend like in one of our many backchannel conversations where she was trying to like write back a reply to somebody. Some guy had like, you know, kind of sent her a really passive aggressive email and she’s like, “How do I respond to this and make him know blah blah blah?” I’m like, “What are you trying to get out of that interaction?” And just taking that moment and thinking like, “What am I trying to get out of sending this angry email? Am I just wanting to like tell this person that I think they’re an idiot? Is that actually going to be productive for anybody? Is anybody going to get anything out of that? Or, you know, am I trying to resolve a situation? Like could I just not reply to them ever? Like what are my options here?” And I think that like it kind of helps me at least get out of my feelings a little bit and um breathe and—and then think long and hard about whether I actually want to send that response or whatever it is that’s giving me a tough time. NG That’s so right. I feel like so often in those moments where you’ve gotten some kind of communication over whatever medium that has like triggered that like rising heart rate reaction, it’s so often it’s about, like, I just need to write back or I need to say something in order to feel like I won this conversation. Like, “You have said something wrong, and you have to know it.” But it’s like, actually, you don’t. And we’re all adults and we’re, you know, senior in our careers at this point and like we should be setting different kinds of examples. But it’s so much easier said than done. KL Yeah. It totally is. So we talk about ambition a lot on the show and sometimes we hear sentiments like, “Does this even apply to me?” Or “I don’t see myself as a quote/unquote “successful” person.” We read an interview where you mentioned something similar for Girlboss that defining a girlboss as someone who “gives herself permission to define success on her terms and change that definition whenever she damn well pleases.” We love that. What would you say to that listener who’s not really sure that they, you know, necessarily qualify as ambitious? [29:08] NG Well, first of all I would say: take a step back and, like, how are you defining ambitious? Because I don’t feel ambitious every day. But I do want to make sure that we’re having a conversation about ambition that doesn’t like set it aside as a taboo or demonize it in any way because I think it’s wonderful to be ambitious, and I think there are still sort of social stigmas that come alongside being an ambitious woman, alongside being seen as too aggressive or too difficult or too focused or selfish. And I think that like I do want to change those conversations and say, first of all, maybe it’s ok to be selfish and put yourself first, and put your career first at times. But also, ambition is not a dirty word. That said, none of us feel ambitious all the time, and none of us have exactly the same idea of what success looks like. So how do we have different conversations and get out of this space where we’re putting ourself in—ourselves in boxes. Where we’re saying, “This is an ambitious person and she looks like this. This is an unambitious person and she looks like this, and I have to be one of these people,” where we should be having much more nuanced conversations about, “This is what good looks like for me right now in my life where I am.” And maybe that is about relentlessly pursuing a career goal, maybe that’s about in my personal life, maybe that’s about caring for a parent, or caring for a partner, or for a child, maybe that is about thinking about my mental health in a different way, and really caring for my body. It’s probably some combination of all of those things but like where you’re pulling each of those levers in different ways like that’s your ultimate definition of success where you are right now. And like how do we create spaces for women to honor that, right? Because I don’t think it’s about giving them permission. You don’t need me to give you permission to do anything. You can do whatever the hell you want to but how do we create a space … and start conversations that remind you of that? KL I love that. I wish you could see how furiously I’m nodding my head [chuckling] along. NG [Laughs] Aw! Thank you. KL I think, you know, one of the things that we’ve talked about on the show and, you know, I think is at the forefront of a lot of our minds is just talking about money because it’s so hard, and for women it’s made to feel shameful. And I think it’s really exciting and heartening to see more conversations happening around pay equity and, you know, salary negotiation, and just learning how to talk about it. What do you feel—like what are Girlboss readers looking for most when it comes to money talk? And like what have you found? [31:58] NG So we try to cover money from every angle, whether that is talking about the basics of how to save, whether that’s talking about how do you actually do the research you need to do to figure out what your quote/unquote “market value” is? How do we have more honest conversations about debt? About things that are really hard? And things that are holding us back? Those sort of deep seeded like dark things that like keep you up night when you think about money because I think money anxiety is very real for so many women and men in this generation and we want to address that. But we also want to talk about things, like, something that I’ve been thinking about a lot lately is just the relationship with money and self doubt, and thinking about … promotions. Like how do you negotiate for a raise? How do you negotiate for a raise when, say, you were offered a promotion but you weren’t offered more money to go with it? I’ve been on both sides of that table, and this is something I write about in my Girlboss email this week that goes out on Thursday, but I’ve been someone who’s had to manage a team and has had to cut budgets and say, “Ok. You can have—I fought for a promotion for you but I can’t get you more money now.” And that’s really tough and I’ve seen different reactions to it but I’ve also been on the other side. I think, you know, when I was younger and, you know, an associate editor, I was definitely at a place where the publishing industry was struggling. We had so many layoffs in 2008. I mean so many industries were struggling at that time. And there was this was sense of like, “You just need to be grateful that you have a job, and don’t ask for more, and maybe you can absorb the job of the person we laid off next to you but you should be appreciative of that.” And that idea of like, “You should be appreciative,” is really tough. I think that that’s something I really struggle with because so often my internal monologue is about gratitude. I don’t want to seem ungrateful for the thing I’ve already been given. So I couldn’t ask for more. I couldn’t counter your perfectly good offer with something that I actually really think I deserve because I don’t want to seem like I’m not already grateful for what I’m being offered. And I think that that’s really tough. There is a place for gratitude in all of our lives, and I think that it fuels us and it makes us better people, but I think when you think about negotiating this fear of seeming ungrateful I think it’s really … troubling. I think it’s something that on a personal level I know holds me back, and I think I see it for many women. How do you have like a really clear, unemotional conversation about what you need and deserve when you’re worried that the reaction you’re going to get is emotional? JL I think it’s so interesting to think about this, you know, idea of grateful—like of being grateful and I can totally relate to a lot of what you were saying. And I think about when I was younger in my career having those same feelings and I think the way it’s leveled out for me is I’ve been more grateful to myself. So I’ve been really grateful about the experiences that I had and I felt more I think confident and grateful for what I can bring as well. So I think that’s helped me with that balance. NG Oh I love that! That’s such a nice way to think of it. JL I was thinking about it as you said it. I was like, “Oh yeah,” I was like, “That,” I—like—hearing you say that it just like resonated so much in me that I realized like I think that’s part of like how I’ve grown over the years and like realizing like a balance between that. [35:33] SWB You know this is something that I think is tough, though for—for a lot of people, particularly women, and particularly sort of earlier in their careers because there’s so much sort of like—there’s so much about our culture that will tell women that they—they kind of like should be grateful for the opportunity to finally get a chance to do something and it encourages them to sort of not necessarily see themselves as somebody who deserves to be there. And sort of like bringing value that is important for the organization. And I think it’s easier, you know, like looking back for me now, being in my thirties and kind of like having, you know, feeling like I’ve done a fair amount that, I can say like, “No, what I do matters. I’m very good at what I do. And I absolutely, you know, want to be paid fairly for it, and feel comfortable advocating for that because of that confidence.” I think it’s hard when you’re—when you’re getting started. And I’m curious, Neha, do you have any—any advice that you give people who are earlier in their careers about sort of like where to find some of that confidence without—without necessarily having as many years to back it up? NG I make a point of, every time I hire someone, I like to put aside a little bit—and I’m giving away my tricks here—but [chuckles] to put aside a little bit of money inside of my budget to give someone room to negotiate because I think it’s really important, especially in entry-level roles, that if someone tries to negotiate they’re not immediately shot down. And even a little bit goes a really long way in that regard but the people who don’t end up negotiating are asking for anything and just end up accepting the offer. I usually go back to them and say, “Hey, let’s talk about this at your six month. But like I had a little bit of money that like I had put aside so that you could negotiate for like a little bit more and you didn’t ask for anything. Like I would encourage you to always ask.” Which maybe is, you know, unorthodox advice for a hiring manager, but I do think it’s important because talking and dealing in specifics in real scenarios is what really lets us think about how you would do something differently and how you can improve. SWB I feel so conflicted about that because on the one hand I’m like, “Yeah! Learn to negotiate! Like it’s a really helpful skill. It is a skill that, you know, I think women, in particularly, aren’t—aren’t really taught as much about. And then on the other hand a part of me is also like … it’s—it’s true that women are not necessarily, at least in a lot of environments, they’re not taken the same way as men when they do try to negotiate or when they do, you know like, if women go into work environments and behave in the way that would be totally acceptable for a man to behave, they are not necessarily treated in the same way. And so I always worry about sort of like setting the expectation that we should be teaching women to do at work is the same thing that has worked for men. And so I always feel a little bit like, “Huh, what if work were just more transparent? Like what if we—we were coming to that conversation differently altogether?” [38:40] NG You should leverage the traits that are yours, but what I’m talking about here in terms of like negotiating, like, we’re not at a place yet where we have true transparency in terms of what we pay people. And we do know that there is a gap in terms of wages that is largely, not entirely, but like significantly contributed to by the fact that women are less likely to negotiate especially as they move further up the ranks. So what I’m trying to do is give advice based on what has worked for me in the industry that I’m in, and I think that there are other industries where it is much harder to ask for more, and where it’s, you know, even commonplace for there to be some level of retribution if you negotiate. And I think that that’s very different. But I think I can comfortably say if you work in media and you’re seeing retribution for negotiating, that’s a real red flag. Not—most organizations in this industry are not like that and so if you’re coming up against someone who is going to behave that way, that’s a red flag for other bad behaviors that are going to be coming down the pike. SWB I love that because I think we talk about that a lot on the show that like how somebody treats you in an initial interaction should tell you a lot about what you can expect in the future and if what they’re doing is a red flag up front then, like, maybe you don’t want to be there at all. NG Yeah. KL I like—when I think about, you know, just the conversations around money and managing it, and—and just everything that you’ve been talking about, that—to me that is a—a very small part of what I consider my mental load, and sort of something that I carry around that I think is, you know, we talk about all these areas and it’s like I think as women we sort of, at a baseline, carry a much heavier load, and I—I would love for you to talk a little bit about that because I know that you touch on the idea of mental load and kind of just how we manage that. I mean, how do you manage it? And how do you feel like a good, productive conversation can happen around that? NG I think I will preface this by saying I don’t have any of the answers but this is something that I think about so often, it’s something that me and my closest friends talk about all the time, and many of them have kids so I think that the conversation about emotional labor and about mental load becomes much more exacerbated when there is the care of another human being happening. But I—I think about it—I mean I actually think part of mental load is how much time I spend thinking about mental load so, I don’t know, say what you will about that but like [all laugh] … you know I am so I’m married, I’ve been married for a couple of years now to someone who I really see as a true partner. It’s someone who, you know, when I was offered this job in LA, said, “Yeah, let’s take the leap. I’m going to work remotely at my job and we’re going to make this move across the country to support your career,” and I think that that’s partnership, and I recognize that there are going to be moments where we make choices to prioritize in my career, as well as other moments where we make choices to prioritize his career and I think that that’s exactly right for me, and I hope for more women. But … I think I still worry about like what—like what’s really—what’s equal? When you think about like introducing like the care of a child into a marriage, into a home, when both parties are working? Because I think that some of this is personality based, some of this how we’re socially conditioned, and some of this is what society like expects from us, right? But I am the project manager of our lives and I think that’s not to say that my husband doesn’t contribute often but, you know, I am the one who loves making lists and loves, you know, if you’re going on vacation you book the hotels, you do the pieces that like allow you to feel like real structure around the experience and that’s, again, it’s not a ding, right? Because like we could have a great vacation that had probably a little bit less structure to it and still be really happy but if that’s my default state how are we ever going to live in a place where I’m not the one who’s always doing that? And taking up just a larger part of like what is required to keep a home and a family in order while also, you know, I had big ambitions about my career, and about sort of how I want to continue to grow from here, about the things I want to accomplish, and that … feels terrifying to me, truthfully. Like thinking about how to really balance what my ambitions are in a professional sense with what I think good could look like at home and this feels like such a … old conversation. Where like I feel like we haven’t made that much progress in a lot of ways. And, you know, in some ways we’ve made a lot of progress but in other ways I don’t—I don’t know what the solutions are here but it’s something I think about all the time and it’s something that my husband and I talk about a lot pretty openly and I think that that’s part of the solution, right? How do you have really honest conversations about the things that … scare you? [43:58] SWB Ugh! I love that! KL I know [crosstalk and laughter] — JL This is so real [laughs]. I like can’t—[laughing] I like can’t even. I’m just I am currently—and it’s funny—the reason I was able to make it today is because we have a snow day here and my husband is currently watching our one-year-old son downstairs so I could be on this podcast [chuckles]. So I’m just like, I’m like yessing everything that you said and just like wow! [NG chuckles] I’m like —yes! [Chuckles] One hundred percent! You are speaking exactly what I have thought so many times. So thank you for articulating that so well. SWB I mean like literally the three of us on the podcast on our, like, sort of private backchannel Slack, right, we’re talking about podcast stuff. We just had a long conversation about this very topic, of sort of like being the project manager in our relationships. And we all have partners who are … partners. They’re real partners. And like I made a joke, they’re not like … guys who come home from work, sit on the couch, and like wait for you to have dinner on the table. Like they’re very much active participants in—in all of these different parts of life, but at the same time it is one of those things where you look at it and you go, like, “Oh yeah, who makes all of the hotel reservations?” Or who’s the one who figured out like, you know, what the dentist appointment schedule was or whatever those kinds of things are. And I think—I think you’re right. It’s like that—it’s like that figuring out, like, how do you balance those things? And how do you talk about about them? And how do, you know, hopefully over time shift them in ways that feel good for everybody involved? And not feel like, you know, it’s this constant source of tension. [45:32] JL Well I think it’s being honest too. So I think it’s really important, you know, as you were describing to know that that’s sort of how you manage your life, or those are the things that are in it, and I think if you know that then at least you can have an honest [KL yeah] conversation about it. NG That’s so true and it’s so hard. It’s I mean even in like great relationships where there’s open communication and trust like it’s hard to say the things that really scare you. KL It totally is. [chuckles] It really is. So [sighs] when we talk about this it—it really makes me think about, you know, learning to ask for help and we talk about asking for help and just kind of being ok with that. Who do you ask for help? NG I ask so many people for help. I think first and foremost I ask Sophia, our CEO here, for help when I feel uncertain about how to solve for something, or how to like I think it’s such a fun thing to be at the startup scrappy stage of, you know, we started out with ten people when I got here, maybe even eight, and now we’re 17 people and we’ve, you know, we’ve more than doubled and that’s so exciting and then I have amazing friends, and I think there is something so special about having community that I’m really sort of acutely aware of right now because when you move across the country you really see—most of my community is in New York still. The women that I talk to all the time now it’s on a text thread rather than over a meal or over breakfast or coffee or a drink. Or at least not as often. But I think having just even like that text thread of—I have a circle of friends who we just sort of like free and direct discourse just like spill all of our updates and our questions and our rants. And that’s amazing. And that’s a place where I feel I can turn for help. And I have another circle of friends where it’s something similar, but we do like a Friday text thread of like a rosebud and thorn, you know? Something that like you—you’re really excited about as well as something that’s like blossoming and something that’s hard. And that structure is really nice and it feels a little silly to say it out loud that my friends and I communicate in this way but when, you know, life priorities and distance separate you, it’s so nice to know that you’re just sort of staying close to people, and able to find a framework in which you can talk about like the really real stuff. KL Oh my god. SWB The rosebud and the thorn is something that— JL I love that! SWB Like I’ll be thinking about that [NG laughs] for awhile— KL That’s so great. JL That’s so great! [48:02] SWB So, Neha, before we wrap up, is there anything happening at Girlboss that you really want our listeners to know about? NG The most important, exciting thing that we have upcoming is the Girlboss Rally in LA on April 28th. We are—we unfortunately just sold out of tickets today but you can go to girlbossrally.com and you can get digital access, you can get all of the video, and see all of these amazing speakers from Bozoma St. John to Gwyneth Paltrow to Janet Mock to Paola Mendoza to Sarah Sophie Flicker to Jen Gotch, just like really incredible women that I’m so excited to gather together, to really pick their brains and get inspiration, but also follow that inspiration up with real, actionable advice so that we can all learn something from people who have done incredible things. SWB Well, thank you so much for being on the show today. NG Thank you for having me— KL Yeah, thank you. NG This was really fun [music fades in, fades out]. JL So for new listeners, joining us on Season 2, something that we love to do at the end of the show is end with our Fuck Yeah of the Week, which is where we look at something that makes us say, “Hey, fuck yeah!” Hey, Sara, what’s this week’s Fuck Yeah? SWB This week we are saying, “Fuck yeah,” to building more inclusive language into our vocabularies. So, so often when we were recording the podcast during our first season, we would just be chatting along, and suddenly, you know, I might say something like, “Hey, guys!” And one of the things we talked about was how “guys” can feel alienating to people who, you know, aren’t guys. And it’s such a common thing that is said—I mean it’s said so often in all kinds of contexts, and some people don’t mind it, some women don’t mind it, some really do. And what we decided is like for our podcast because we want to make sure people feel welcome listening to it that we just cut that stuff out. And that’s a hard habit to break. JL It’s so hard! We all say it quite often. I say, “Hey guys,” a bunch and it’s also hard to be like, “Hey, do you know you just said ‘hey guys’?” to your friend because you don’t want to constantly correct someone, either. But because we’re all working on this, it’s something that, you know, we—we’ve tried to get more comfortable being like, “Oh! You just said that.” And I think it’s really helpful to do that, especially in a place where, you know, I trust both of you and I know that you know when I say things I don’t—I’m never trying to be noninclusive. And so something one day we were recording and I was saying something, I think I was explaining a Fuck Yeah, and I said, “Yeah, I’m going to go tab-crazy about this.” And I kept talking and talking and then I hear Sara sort of breathe and she’s like, “Hey, Jenn?” And I was like, “Oh no!” And, you know, she had brought up that I had said crazy and—and crazy can also be one of those words that I’m trying to move away from. And I hadn’t really thought too much about that and I think, again, because it’s something that’s so in my vocabulary right now. I’m crazy about that! But, you know, there’s plenty of times where, you know, I’ve used “crazy” to describe things and I was like, “Oh, why would I not say that?” was my initial reaction. And I think I got a little bit defensive at first. I didn’t say that, but just inside I felt like, “Oh no, you know, like why wouldn’t I say this?” And then Sara suggested instead using “tab wild.” And the thing about it was “wild” is such a more exciting word than crazy that this vocab swap was like super awesome! I was like, “Oh yeah, wild! Let’s go wild!” Like you know, like I wouldn’t want to be like, [sings] “Let’s go wild! Let’s get nuts.” But [laughs] you know swapping wild for crazy just sounded so much better, so it’s where I began to be more open to the idea, if switching things in my vocabulary means that, you know, the world is my oyster. [51:41] KL Yeah. I think it’s like—it’s just that—it’s figuring out what—what do you actually mean and is there a really good word that you can use instead that’s not ableist or that is more inclusive? And I think just being able to pay attention to that and, like you said, Jenn, feeling like we’re in a group of people that we know we can practice this more is so important and there’s nothing quite like hearing yourself recorded over and over again [laughter] to realize that it’s something you need to be more aware of, and pay attention to, and I love that we’re doing this. SWB I mean it becomes like a default filler word, sometimes, you know? KL Absolutely. SWB And I think like for me I remember a few years ago when I was editing a magazine I was really uncomfortable with like the singular “they.” Like saying, “they” as a singular person instead of “he” or “she,” and I just didn’t like it. I didn’t like it. And I can understand feeling that way about pretty much any kind of language change, because it feels uncomfortable at first like, nobody likes change, everybody likes things how they are, right? [Laughing] Honestly, that’s—that’s—people are creatures of habit. So if you have a habit to say things a certain way or see things a certain way, at first you can bristle. And it took me longer than I want to admit to get comfortable with the singular “they.” By the time we had Stevie on last season, who is non-binary and uses “they” as their pronoun, I was on board for sure [mm hmm] but just hearing them talk about it too reminded me like, “Oh yeah, like this really matters for people.” And if it matters for people, then it matters for me on the show. I want to model that behavior out to the world. [53:19] JL And as you mentioned, I mean we are lucky, we have editing, we can look through this. I would, you know, I would never step someone in a large group or crowd and be like, “Hey, actually! You just said this.” But I think it’s, you know, pulling someone maybe aside after. If I notice someone at work is saying something a lot then maybe I want to be like, “Oh, just so you know,” or you know I’m in a Slack group for design systems and they have one of the automatic things that if someone writes “Hey guys” it’ll have a Slack message popup that says, “We use inclusive language language here. How about something like ’Hey, folks?’” And I like something like that because the message is written really friendly and it’s not like pointing out anyone’s wrongdoings, it’s just, “Oh here’s something you probably didn’t consider. Let’s all start considering this more.” SWB And I think it also it also all depends on context, situation, language, the severity of something, like I think there are definitely times where in a group setting if somebody says something egregious [KL yeah] it might be important to call them out publicly because it might be important to publicly state, “This is not acceptable here.” [Mm hmm] And other times it’s like there’s a slip and they just need a quiet nudge and—and I think it really depends. But I think when it comes to doing, you know, if you’re going to put a podcast out into the world, and if you’re going to say like, “Yeah, this is a feminist podcast,” then like fuckin’ live it. So we have to make sure that we’re really thinking about that carefully and—and, you know, continuing to get better, and I definitely think of this as something that like we have not fixed. It’s a thing that we are aware of, and working on, and like figuring out … what else is out there? Like what other stuff is out there that we haven’t realized yet, you know, could be alienating some people and what are we going to do about it? KL Yeah, so that’s we’re really excited because we thought we would add a new segment to the show, and we’re calling it Vocab Swap. So we’re going to keep tabs on how we’re sort of doing with this over the season, and we’re going to look for new ways um to learn how we can just expand our inclusive, and just practice it a lot more, and find new ways to—to do that. SWB Yeah! So I think for our very first Vocab Swaps we’re really talking about “guys” and “crazy” and taking note when those words are coming out of our mouths and thinking about why we’re using them, and whether they are appropriate, and who they might be hurting. KL And that’s it for this week’s episode of No, You Go, the show about being ambitious—and sticking together. NYG is recorded in our home city of Philadelphia and produced by Steph Colbourn. 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