Podcast appearances and mentions of Laura Wasser

What if your biggest leadership challenge isn't deciding what to do, but when to do it? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill shares personal stories and answers listener questions about tough decisions, team feedback, and betting big on your vision. From a solo weekend with his kids to making high-stakes calls at work, Michael pulls back the curtain on how he thinks through pressure, risk, and long-term impact. Here's what you'll learn: Why speed and decisiveness are only advantages when paired with execution How to weigh input from others — and still make the final call yourself What it takes to scale sustainably without losing your mind You make the decision. Don't let someone else make it for you. ---- Show Notes: 01:58 – Michael's Core Memory Weekend with the Kids 06:24 – The CEO's Dilemma: No Clear Right Answers 06:55 – Why Focus Beats Multiple Revenue Streams 10:53 – The Risk of Moving Too Fast — and Too Big 13:04 – Behind the Scenes of Crisp's Busiest Year 14:18 – Why Execution Matters More Than Ideas 17:16 – Acquisition Anxiety: Growth vs. Culture Clash 21:03 – You Make the Decision — Not Your Team ---- Links & Resources: Die With Zero by Bill Perkins ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 349. AMMA. The Leadership Shift: Building a Firm That Doesn't Depend on You 339. AMMA — The Growth Blueprint: What It Takes to Build a 7, 8, and 9-Figure Law Firm 258. AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth

Building a values-driven law firm isn't just the right thing to do — it's also a winning strategy. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, host Michael Mogill sits down with Eric Chaffin and Roopal Luhana of Chaffin Luhana to explore how they built one of the most respected firms in the country by leading with integrity, empathy, and purpose. Guided by the principle of “doing good by doing right,” they share how a deep commitment to clients and core values has fueled meaningful growth, sparked innovation, and shaped a standout culture in the legal industry. Here's what you'll learn: Why doing the right thing, even when it's hard, delivers the greatest long-term ROI How to build a values-driven culture that attracts the right people and clients What it takes to stay resilient when the stakes are high and the outcomes are uncertain Don't miss this conversation if you want to build a firm that wins with purpose, scales with heart, and never loses sight of what matters most. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: How Eric and Roopal built Chaffin Luhana 01:40 – Defining “doing good by doing right” and what it looks like in action 05:00 – Why authenticity is rare — and essential — in legal marketing 06:15 – The most important KPI: Client gratitude 08:15 – How values shape hiring, culture, and internal growth 12:15 – Implementing structure: Traction, processes, and leadership clarity 15:00 – Lessons from loss: Staying true to your principles when it's hard 18:20 – Navigating emotional investment and long litigation cycles 21:30 – Driving systemic change through impact litigation 25:45 – Final thoughts: Being a game changer through innovation and heart ---- Links & Resources: Chaffin Luhana LLP Six Sigma Incorporating Traction  ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 355. How Two Lawyers Took on Legal Giants and Won with Spetsas Buist 361. The Hidden Blueprint for Creating a Thriving Work Culture with Josh Nelson 357. The Strategy That Skyrocketed Her Law Firm's Growth with Sofia K. Miguel

What if the best way to build a high-performing team wasn't through perks or policies, but by telling people the truth? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, HR consultant, speaker, author, and former Netflix Chief Talent Officer Patty McCord joins Michael Mogill to challenge conventional HR thinking and offer a candid take on what truly drives culture, leadership, and high performance. With decades of experience shaping iconic teams in Silicon Valley, Patty unpacks how honesty, accountability, and experimentation can redefine what it means to build a workplace people are proud to be from, not just at. Here's what you'll learn: Why retention is the wrong metric for building great teams — and what matters instead How “telling the truth up front” can eliminate legal issues, improve culture, and drive results What it takes to create a company where high performers thrive and mediocrity doesn't survive If you're ready to ditch outdated practices, build a team of adults who own their impact, and lead with context instead of control, this episode is your blueprint. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Patty's Unconventional Path into HR 05:06 – The Call That Changed Everything: Joining Netflix at 2 AM 06:40 – Reinventing Work: Cutting What Doesn't Matter 08:06 – Creating a Great Place to Be From 12:00 – Building High-Performance Teams with Radical Clarity 17:18 – Problem Solvers vs. Problem Finders 20:14 – Giving Feedback That Drives Growth 27:11 – Metrics That Matter: P&L Over Perks 34:12 – Preparing for the Future: Do You Have the Right Team? 37:04 – Stop Empowering: Teach How the Business Works 38:29 – The Future of Work Is Now 40:15 – Redefining Leadership Through Context 41:22 – Final Thoughts: Stop Doing Stupid Stuff ---- Links & Resources: Powerful: Building a Culture of Freedom and Responsibility by Patty McCord How Netflix Reinvented HR, HBR Article by Patty McCord Netflix Culture Deck “Google Ideological Echo Chamber” memo by James Damore ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 352 — Susan Fowler — Why Everything You Know About Motivating Your Team Might Be Completely Wrong 328 — Sherry Stewart Deutschmann — Transform Your Business with Bold, People-First Leadership

What if the real risk isn't taking bold action — but staying exactly where you are? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, author, founder of Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO), and Founder & CEO of Scaling Up, Verne Harnish shares timeless insights on scaling a business, developing high-performing teams, and why most leaders fall short when they lose their edge. From navigating uncertainty to rediscovering founder-mode, Verne challenges the safe, conventional wisdom that holds organizations back — and offers a blueprint for playing bigger, leading smarter, and building companies that endure. Here's what you'll learn: Why aggressive goals create more energy — and why incrementalism kills momentum What it means to rediscover your company's "soul" — and how to lead from founder-mode How to replace weak managers with true team captains who drive performance If you're playing not to lose, you're already falling behind — this episode is your call to play to win. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 - Introduction 06:00 - Betting on Yourself: The Sacrifices and Mindset of Entrepreneurs 09:19 - Thriving in Chaos: Why Optimism and Timing Matter 14:00 - The Power of Big, Audacious Goals (and Why Small Thinking Fails) 16:42 - Why Most Companies Plateau: The Mindset and Market Gap 20:41 - Rediscovering Founder Mode and the Soul of Your Business 26:46 - Building Teams That Don't Need Managers 31:15 - How AI Will Redefine Growth, Strategy, and Hiring 36:40 - Redefining Success: The Five F's That Really Matter ---- Links & Resources: Scaling Up by Verne Harnish Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO) Mastering the Rockefeller Habits by Verne Harnish Founder Mode by Paul Graham The Captain Class by Sam Walker ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 243. AMMA — Success Without Safety Nets: The Entrepreneurial Journey 338. Will Ahmed — From Stress to Success: Optimizing the Entrepreneurial Journey 196. AMMA — The 9 Sources of Entrepreneurial Advantage

What if your suffering isn't coming from your circumstances, but from your stories? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, workplace drama expert, leadership consultant, and best-selling author Cy Wakeman unpacks the inner chaos that holds high performers back. Through personal stories and hard-won lessons, she reveals how the ego fuels self-imposed suffering, how gratitude can evolve your perspective, and why true leadership begins with self-reflection. Alongside Jessica Mogill, Cy shares the practices and mindset shifts that can help you stop resisting reality and start showing up with clarity, calm, and compassion. Here's what you'll learn: Why most suffering is self-inflicted — and how your ego is the culprit How to use three simple questions to break free from stress and overwhelm What it takes to live a life you don't need a vacation from Your peace begins where your ego ends — and this episode shows you the way. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 01:56 – Writing Through the Chaos: How the Pandemic Shaped Cy's New Book 02:08 – Self-Imposed Suffering: How Ego Hijacks the Present Moment 06:04 – Reclaiming Perspective: The Three Questions That Set You Free 10:06 – Gratitude Reimagined: Counting Everything as a Blessing 23:05 – Stop Naming Things Too Soon: Embracing Curiosity Over Control 25:07 – The Power of “And”: Rejecting Either/Or Thinking 29:41 – Overgiving, Boundaries, and the Illusion of Control 32:42 – Self-Soothing vs. Self-Care: The Difference That Changes Everything ---- Links & Resources: Reality-Based Rules of the Workplace and Life's Messy, Live Happy by Cy Wakeman Ted x Talk: “Ditch the Drama” by Cy Wakeman ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 110. Leading Ladies: Four Leaders in Business 132. Summit Spectacular: Part 1  214. Dream Team: How to Hire & Keep High-Performing Talent

What if your biggest competitive edge isn't the channel you choose — but how hard you're willing to commit? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, serial entrepreneur, best-selling author, and the Founder of Rankings.io Chris Dreyer returns to break down what law firms are getting wrong about SEO, how AI is changing the digital playing field, and why consistency, community, and competition are more essential than ever. From dominating local markets to navigating Google's evolving algorithms, Chris shares the no-BS truths that separate real results from wasted spend. Here's what you'll learn: Why “if you don't commit” to SEO and review strategies, “it's like an uphill battle” How to earn Google's trust through “real-world relationships” and local relevance What it means to “never settle, always compete” — even after you hit your goals If you're ready to obsess over the things your competitors are overlooking, this episode will show you how to turn strategy into dominance. ---- Show Notes: 01:54 – Introduction02:22 – What Law Firms Get Wrong About SEO06:01 – AI's Impact on Search and Relevance12:39 – The Truth About AI-Generated Content15:40 – Advice for New Law Firms Entering SEO18:09 – Why Traditional Media Still Dominates22:17 – The Optimal Marketing Mix for Law Firms27:15 – Building Brand Affinity Through Grassroots Marketing32:48 – Proudest Moments and Hardest Lessons ---- Links & Resources: Rankings.io Niching UpPersonal Injury and Lawyer Marketing: From Good to GOAT Inside Tracker Giftology PIMCon (Personal Injury Lawyers Marketing & Management Conference) Profits First Cambridge Analytica Scandal ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 169. Chris Dreyer — Unlocking Leverage: Strategically Scaling Your Impact 345. AMMA. The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 358. Your Competitors Don't Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies

What if trying to help everyone is the very thing keeping your law firm from growing? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill challenge the myth that more is better — more practice areas, more clients, more complexity. Instead, they reveal why clarity, consistency, and restraint are the real drivers of sustainable growth. From the $10M rule to the art of saying “no,” this episode is a practical blueprint for law firm owners ready to scale without spreading themselves — or their teams — too thin. Here's what you'll learn: Why the best cases go to the best marketers What the $10M rule means for your expansion plans Why generalists struggle to grow — and how specialists win The real impact of saying “no” to misaligned clients How focus helps you build authority and trust If you're ready to scale your firm without losing focus, this episode will challenge you to lead with clarity, say no with confidence, and grow where it matters most. ---- Show Notes: 00:01 – Introduction 03:28 – Should I Niche Down to Compete With a Younger Attorney? 07:23 – Should I Expand Into New Practice Areas to Grow? 12:00 – How Do I Say No to Longtime Clients? 14:09 – The Power of Saying No to Stay Focused 15:30 – Why Boundaries Are a Sign of Growth 16:10 – Saying Yes Means Saying No to Something Else 16:14 – Final Thoughts: You Have the Power to Choose ---- Links & Resources: Turf Grass Phone Case  ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 199. Jesse Cole — Change the Game, Break the Rules, and Create an Unforgettable Experience 258. AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth 333. AMMA — Win More High-Value Cases: How to Build a Brand Clients Trust

What if your greatest leadership challenge isn't your team — it's you? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, decorated U.S. Army veteran and CEO of Berry Law, John Berry returns to share the tough lessons, tactical systems, and mindset shifts that have shaped his evolution as a leader. From military missions to managing a fast-growing law firm, John opens up about what it really takes to earn trust, retain A-players, and lead with conviction — even when the pressure is on. Here's what you'll learn: Why discipline, restraint, and reflection are essential to long-term leadership How to recruit and retain top talent by scaling culture from the inside out What it takes to become the kind of leader people choose to follow If you're ready to look in the mirror and lead at a higher level, this episode will show you how real change starts from within. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: From Combat to Courtroom 02:18 – Why Most Leaders Get Leadership Wrong 05:42 – The Hard Lessons of Hiring and Building the Right Culture 10:04 – Leadership Under Pressure: Lessons from the Battlefield 17:09 – The Cost of Conflict Avoidance and the Power of Feedback 26:43 – Operation Spear Tip: Scalable Hiring Through Referrals 33:06 – When to Coach, Confront, or Cut Loose 42:18 – Simplifying Practice Areas to Scale with Focus 56:03 – Final Thoughts: Change Yourself to Change the Game ---- Links & Resources: Berry Law  Veteran Led by John Berry  Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink & Leif Babin  The Dichotomy of Leadership by Jocko Willink & Leif Babin  ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 255. Joe De Sena — The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 303. Eric Thomas — Turning Struggles into Strength: A Blueprint for Resilience 331. AMMA — Failure to Reflect is Failure to Grow: The Brutal Truth About Staying Stuck

What if the reason your clients, team, or peers don't recognize your value… is because you never showed them? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill breaks down the unseen habits, small slips, and silent wins that separate those who sustain excellence from those who quietly fall behind. From holding the line on standards to making your effort visible, this episode is a tactical reminder that the little things are never little — and that complacency has a price. Here's what you'll learn: Why discipline erodes in the details — and how to hold the line How to make your unseen efforts visible to your team and clients What it really takes to prevent success from turning into stagnation Want to stay at the top? This episode is your reminder to act like it — every single day. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:48 – Teaching Entrepreneurial Lessons to the Next Generation 08:07 – The Bracelet Business: Fulfillment, Hustle, and Gratitude 09:38 – Combating Entitlement by Sharing the Real Journey 13:16 – Why Gratitude, Not Resentment, Builds a Great Culture 15:00 – Are You Paranoid or Just Paying Attention? 17:05 – The Slippery Slope of Letting Standards Slip 18:10 – Making the Invisible Visible: How to Show Your Work 22:36 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Atomic Habits by James Clear  David Goggins  Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins  Cameron Hanes  The Score Takes Care of Itself by Bill Walsh  ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 320.  John Morgan — Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality 278. Adam Alter — From Stuck to Unstoppable: Gaining and Maintaining Momentum 217.  AMMA — The Key to Clarity in Business

As we conclude celebrating five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, this Elite Athletes edition showcases the world-class performers who have redefined limits — mentally, physically, and professionally. These are the voices of champions who've trained in darkness, fought through failure, and built the mindset required to dominate on the world stage. In this episode, we go beyond trophies and titles to uncover the discipline, resilience, and psychological mastery that separates the best from everyone else. Whether it's breaking world records, surviving in isolation, or pushing through unimaginable pain, these athletes offer a window into what's possible when greatness becomes non-negotiable. This episode features: Mark Beaumont: On why risk, adventure, and clarity of purpose matter more than comfort or certainty. Colin O'Brady: On challenging the impossible — and growing through adversity, whether or not you succeed. David Goggins: On building belief by choosing suffering, and how pain can become your greatest teacher. Mat Fraser: On the compounding power of consistent habits — and how world champions optimize everything. Tim Grover: On letting go of civility, mastering your dark side, and doing what winning demands. If you want to understand what true grit, mental toughness, and elite-level focus really look like, this episode is your blueprint. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Unlocking Peak Performance with Elite Athletes 02:05 – Mark Beaumont: Around the World in 194 Days 07:14 – The Power of Planning, Pain, and Perspective 11:21 – Colin O'Brady: Why “The Impossible First” Mattered 17:24 – From Burn Victim to Triathlon Champion 26:05 – Crossing Antarctica Alone: Breaking Mental and Physical Limits 29:06 – David Goggins: Creating an Alter Ego to Withstand the Unthinkable 41:46 – Mat Fraser: Building 1% Gains into Unstoppable Momentum 54:10 – Tim Grover: Winning Is Uncivilized — And That's the Point ---- Links & Resources: Mark Beaumont Colin O'Brady David Goggins Mat Fraser Tim Grover The Impossible First by Colin O'Brady Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins Never Finished by David Goggins Relentless by Tim Grover Winning by Tim Grover  ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 358. Your Competitors Don't Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies 356. Warning: These Industry Titans' Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 360.  The Hidden Formula for Unstoppable Motivation and Achievement

What separates elite leaders from those who never break through? It's not motivation or even talent — it's the discipline to stay focused, make decisions when it's uncomfortable, and build habits that align with who you want to become. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill tackles questions from law firm owners about decision-making, long-term planning, and how to maintain consistent performance when things get chaotic. You'll learn how to shift your mindset from reacting to leading, and how to engineer habits and environments that make success inevitable. Here's what you'll learn: What it takes to stay disciplined when motivation fails How elite leaders create leverage through “Future Time” Why identity — not willpower — is the key to lasting habits If you're ready to lead your firm at a higher level, this episode will show you how to build the internal foundation that drives consistent external results. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Gadgets, Cold Plunges & Energy Boosts 06:24 – Why This Podcast Has No Sponsors (and Why That Matters) 08:03 – Navigating Hard Decisions: Choose, Own, and Move Forward 13:49 – Future Time: The Most Important Meeting You'll Ever Take 17:06 – Strategic Thinking: Identifying the One Problem That Unlocks Growth 18:40 – Habit Stacking for Busy Law Firm Owners 21:18 – Designing an Environment That Makes Good Habits Easy 24:16 – From Cold Plunges to Consistency: The Power of Identity 28:11 – Final Thoughts: Lead Like the CEO You Want to Become ---- Links & Resources: Streaks App  Atomic Habits by James Clear Savannah Bananas  Tony Robbins Tim Cook  Rory McIlroy ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 291 — Tim Grover — The Dark Side of Achievement Episode 229 — David Goggins — Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within Episode 258 — AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth

As we celebrate five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, this Business Titans edition honors the visionary leaders who've built powerhouse brands, navigated high-stakes decisions, and proven that excellence, adaptability, and bold thinking aren't just values — they're strategies. In this episode, we spotlight the builders: entrepreneurs and executives who scaled with purpose, led through adversity, and never settled for average. From world-class customer service and employee empowerment to the raw realities of risk, reinvention, and rapid growth, their insights are a masterclass in what it takes to lead at the highest level. This episode features: Horst Schulze: On why excellence is a non-negotiable standard, and how empowering employees drives loyalty and brand equity. Marcus Lemonis: On the power of owning your mistakes, building on people-process-product, and leading with transparency. Alex Hormozi: On why pain is a more powerful motivator than passion — and how humility and long-term thinking shape real success. Joey Coleman: On transforming employees into advocates by designing every phase of their journey with intention and care. Kara Goldin: On recovering from failure, staying scrappy, and building a brand by staying relentlessly curious and open to reinvention. If you're building a business that aims to stand the test of time, this episode is packed with hard-earned wisdom, leadership strategy, and the relentless mindset it takes to succeed. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Celebrating 5 Years with Visionary Business Titans 02:17 – Horst Schulze: Why Excellence Is a Decision (Not a Perk) 05:50 – The $2,000 Rule: Empowering Employees to Create Loyalty 11:08 – Marcus Lemonis: The 3 P's of Business (People, Process, Product) 17:30 – Why Accountability & Mistake Ownership Drive Sustainable Growth 23:31 – Alex Hormozi: Using Pain as Fuel & Reframing Entrepreneurial Mindset 31:47 – Time as a Founder's Most Valuable Asset 40:01 – Joey Coleman: Creating Remarkable Employee Experiences 48:46 – Kara Goldin: Navigating Setbacks, Brand Building & Thinking Differently ---- Links & Resources: Horst Schulze Marcus Lemonis Alex Hormozi $100M Offers: How To Make Offers So Good People Feel Stupid Saying No $100M Leads: How to Get Strangers To Want To Buy Your Stuff Joey Coleman Never Lose a Customer Again: Turn Any Sale into Lifelong Loyalty in 100 Days Never Lose an Employee Again: The Simple Path to Remarkable Retention Kara Goldin Undaunted: Overcoming Doubts and Doubters ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 358. Your Competitors Don't Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies 356. Warning: These Industry Titans' Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 360.  The Hidden Formula for Unstoppable Motivation and Achievement

What if building a thriving law firm wasn't about holding on tighter — but about letting go of control, trusting your team, and scaling with purpose? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Josh Nelson, founder of Nelson Elder Care Law and recipient of the 2024 SELECT Firm of the Year award. From his early days grinding to his first million, to leading a 40+ person team and managing growth through intentional hiring and leadership, Josh's journey offers a blueprint for building a firm that grows beyond the founder. Here's what you'll learn: Why empowering your team — not doing it all yourself — is the key to scaling impact What it takes to evolve your systems, strategy, and mindset to support long-term growth How personal passions can fuel purpose — and turn success into service Tune in as he shares the honest story behind his firm's evolution — from ego-driven decisions to visionary leadership. Whether you're building your team, restructuring your systems, or finding renewed motivation in the mission, this conversation is packed with high-growth insights, personal turning points, and the mindset shifts that define true leadership. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 07:56 – From Racing to Elder Law: Josh's Unconventional Path 17:14 – Breaking Production: Early Growth and System Failures 21:26 – Building a Scalable Firm Without Burning Out 26:09 – Evolving the Hiring Funnel & Creating a Culture of Accountability 31:07 – The Power of Bench Strength and Non-Attorney Salespeople 35:36 – Marketing to Your Team: Driving Mission-Driven Culture 39:08 – Leveraging AI as a Multiplier, Not a Replacement 44:38 – Racing, Legacy, and Why Impact Beats Income ---- Links & Resources: Nelson Elder Care Law Kolbe ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 323. James Lawrence — The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination 259. David Craig — How to Build a Law Firm That Stands the Test of Time 246. AMMA — From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Key Differences Between Winners and Losers

As we continue celebrating five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, this next installment in our special retrospective series highlights the thought leaders who challenge conventional thinking, reframe limitations, and expand what's possible — both personally and professionally. In this Mindset Expanders edition, we feature experts who have helped millions push beyond mental roadblocks, build better habits, and unlock sustainable performance. From behavior change and self-control to high achievement and peak flow states, these conversations will reshape the way you think about growth — and give you the tools to pursue it with purpose. This episode features: Katy Milkman: On how to overcome present bias, build habits that last, and make positive behavior change more enjoyable. Ayelet Fishbach: On mastering self-control by designing smarter environments and identifying competing goals. Adam Alter: On reframing failure, embracing challenge, and why discomfort is the key to long-term meaning. Eric Thomas: On why effort matters more than talent — and how understanding motivation can unlock your team's full potential. Steven Kotler: On how fear, focus, and flow states can be leveraged to achieve peak performance in any field. If you're ready to think bigger, act bolder, and lead with clarity, these mindset-shifting conversations will show you how to break through to your next level. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: What Would It Look Like to Give 120%? 02:12 – Katie Milkman: Overcoming Present Bias and Building Better Habits 10:46 – Ayelet Fishbach: Self-Control, Multiple Goals, and Advice Giving 19:33 – Adam Alter: Turning Failure into a Superpower 27:40 – Beginner's Mind: Why Staying Curious Leads to Growth 35:08 – Eric Thomas: When You Want to Succeed as Bad as You Want to Breathe 42:30 – Motivating Your Team by Speaking Their Language 48:57 – The Inability to Self-Assess: Why Leaders Get in Their Own Way 53:19 – Steven Kotler: How Peak Performers Use Flow and Fear to Their Advantage ---- Links & Resources: Katy Milkman  Ayelet Fishbach Adam Alter  Eric Thomas Steven Kotler  Mary Poppins  Tony Robbins  Les Brown  Steve Jobs Wharton School of Business University of Chicago Booth School of Business  NYU Stern School of Business  Michigan State University  NFL  Flow Research Collective ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 358. Your Competitors Don't Want You to Know These Game Changing Marketing Strategies 356. Warning: These Industry Titans' Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 219. AMMA — A Deeper Look at Leadership

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill takes on some of the toughest challenges law firm owners face today — hiring with confidence, retaining great talent, and knowing when to invest in people versus when to walk away. From evaluating high-salary candidates to navigating internal disagreements over ambitious hires, this episode offers real-world guidance for leaders who want to build teams that last. Here's what you'll learn: How to evaluate whether you're paying for potential or proven performance Why a candidate asking about growth isn't a red flag — it's a sign of ambition How to create a culture of development that retains your best people If you've ever struggled with whether to bet on potential or proven experience — or feared the long-term cost of developing talent that might leave — this conversation is for you. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: New Studio, New Format 01:23 – The 3 Types of Decision-Makers: Doubters, Delayers, and Deciders 06:27 – Hiring Dilemma: Pay for Potential or Proven Experience? 10:36 – Time vs. Money: The Real Cost of Training New Talent 11:05 – Navigating Offers: Is Asking About Growth a Red Flag? 13:13 – Choosing the Right Hire: Heart, Intent, and Fit 14:26 – Poaching Problems: When You're the “Training Ground” Firm 16:06 – Why You Should Still Invest in People (Even if They Leave) 18:11 – Creating Career Paths That Inspire Long-Term Loyalty ---- Links & Resources: Patrick Mahomes Atlanta Falcons ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 278. Adam Alter — From Stuck to Unstoppable: Gaining and Keeping Momentum 245. Sheila Heen — How to Master Difficult Conversations 219. AMMA — A Deeper Look at Leadership

As we continue celebrating five years of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, this second installment in our special retrospective series highlights the marketing minds who have shaped industries, built iconic brands, and mastered the art of standing out. In this Marketing Masters edition, we spotlight leaders who have transformed the way we think about positioning, personal branding, relationship building, and sustainable growth. Their insights reveal that true marketing mastery isn't about chasing trends — it's about clarity, connection, and a relentless focus on serving the right audience with excellence. This episode features: Seth Godin: On why marketing success starts with focusing up, choosing the smallest viable audience, and resisting the temptation to be average. Rory Vaden: On building a powerful personal brand rooted in trust, and why your reputation is the foundation of lasting opportunity. Pat Flynn: On creating superfans through quality, authenticity, and meaningful relationship-building. John Ruhlin: On leveraging thoughtful generosity to deepen client loyalty, drive referrals, and accelerate business growth. Conrad Saam and Gyi Tsakalakis: On why marketing without a strategy leads to wasted effort — and how consistent execution wins over time. Across every conversation, one theme is clear: the most successful marketers aren't the ones who follow the crowd. They're the ones who lead with purpose, serve with authenticity, and build brands that endure. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: Lessons from Marketing Legends 03:11 – Seth Godin: Focus Up and Find Your Smallest Viable Audience 13:43 – Rory Vaden: Why Reputation Precedes Revenue 22:49 – Building a Personal Brand That Drives Business Growth 28:33 – Pat Flynn: Creating Superfans Through Quality and Connection 37:28 – Small Town Rules: Building Loyalty in a Digital World 44:36 – John Ruhlin: Strategic Gifting to Deepen Relationships 53:25 – Conrad Saam & Guy Sakalakis: Strategy vs. Tactics in Legal Marketing 01:07:15 – Final Takeaways: Building a Brand That Lasts ---- Links & Resources: Seth GodinRory VadenPat FlynnJohn RuhlinConrad Saam  Gyi Tsakalakis ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 356.  Warning: These Industry Titans' Insights Might Change How You Run Your Firm 251. Alex Hormozi — The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 279. AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill interviews Sofia K. Miguel, the 2024 ELITE Firm of the Year winner. Sofia shares her journey from the Army Reserve to leading a successful personal injury firm, offering practical insights into the challenges and successes of running a law practice. You will learn:  How to embrace marketing to enhance visibility and success in a competitive landscape How personal growth builds resilience, vital for leading a successful firm And how a high-performing team and top-tier client experience differentiate your firm Ready to transform your firm's future with proven growth and leadership strategies? Tune in to hear Sofia's impactful journey and discover how you can apply these lessons to your own practice. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: From Army Reserve to Elite Firm of the Year 03:24 – Why Sofia Chose Law: Autonomy, Self-Reliance, and Fulfillment 09:19 – Building the Firm From Scratch: Early Challenges and Vision 14:10 – Standing Out in a Competitive Market as a Woman-Owned Firm 18:47 – From Solo to Team: The Shift to Scaling and Hiring Attorneys 24:36 – Establishing Culture: High Standards and Collaborative Growth 32:55 – Making Unpopular Decisions for Long-Term Success 39:40 – Personal Growth, Professional Evolution, and Resilience 48:18 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Sofia Miguel ---- Links & Resources: Sofia K. Miguel Kolbe Index ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 346. James Amaro — Why Losing Everything Was the Best Thing That Happened  251. Alex Hormozi — The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 279. AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership

Welcome to a special edition of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, celebrating five years of game changing conversations, industry-shaping insights, and bold leadership in the legal world. To mark this milestone, we're kicking off a retrospective series that dives into the minds of the most forward-thinking, trailblazing leaders we've featured over the years. In this episode, we're taking a look back to highlight the strategies and decisions that helped our top guests carve their own paths to success. There's no single way to build a thriving law firm — but the stories you'll hear are proof that with the right mindset, consistent execution, and belief in your vision, success is within reach. You'll hear from: Eric Chaffin: Co-founder of Chaffin Luhana, a nationally recognized law firm. Known for his work as a federal prosecutor and his dedication to using his experiences to motivate and help others through his legal practice. Rex Elliott: A prominent attorney at Cooper Elliott, a firm known for representing the underdog and making significant impacts in trial law. His journey is fueled by connecting his past experiences to achieve success and aid others. Randi McGinn: An accomplished trial lawyer, recognized for her approach to "transformative law," where the focus is on making impactful changes beyond just monetary settlements in cases. Laura Wasser: A top divorce attorney in the country, known for her discretion and ability to handle high-profile celebrity divorce cases with a focus on realistic expectations and professionalism. Ben Crump: A nationally renowned civil rights attorney, often involved in high-profile cases that address systemic injustices, inspired by Thurgood Marshall and motivated by advocating for equal opportunities and justice. Whether you're an attorney seasoned in the courtroom or a burgeoning leader in the industry, you'll find valuable perspectives and actionable insights to fuel your own success story. Join us as we uncover the diverse strategies and mindsets that propel legal visionaries to redefine what it means to lead, inspire, and succeed. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction: 5 Years of Legal Game Changers 02:05 – Eric Chaffin: Overcoming Trauma and Building a Mission-Driven Firm 10:44 – Doing Good by Doing Right: Building Chaffin Luhana on Values 15:45 – Rex Elliott: From Construction Sites to Courtrooms 21:42 – Fighting for Underdogs and Finding Purpose in Trial Work 27:58 – Randi McGinn: Pioneering Transformative Law with Every Case 35:36 – Laura Wasser: Navigating High-Profile Divorce with Discretion and Integrity 43:59 – Balancing Emotional Support and Legal Strategy in Celebrity Cases 50:27 – Ben Crump: Finding Hope and Justice Through Legacy and Law ---- Links & Resources: Randi McGinn Rex Elliott Eric Chaffin Ben Crump Laura Wasser ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 328. Sherry Stewart Deutschmann — Transform Your Business with Bold, People-First Leadership 251. Alex Hormozi — The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 279. AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership

What if launching your law firm amidst competition isn't about having it all figured out, but about taking the plunge with unwavering determination and adaptability? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, host Michael Mogill sits down with Charles Buist and Nicholas Spetsas, the formidable duo behind a rapidly growing law firm in Orlando. Join us as we delve into their inspiring journey from shared dreams in a cramped one-bedroom apartment to the strategic decisions that helped them navigate the challenges of launching a firm from scratch. Here's what you'll learn: How taking strategic risks early in your career can pave the way for future success The critical role of a client-centric approach in differentiating a law firm, ensuring lasting relationships and trust by prioritizing client needs and maintaining excellent service The impact of leveraging advanced technology and personalized leadership strategies, like AI, Kolbe, and PRINT assessments, to foster team growth and enhance operational efficiency in a thriving law firm Tune in as they unpack their evolution from law school allies to entrepreneurial partners, revealing the bold bets, unrelenting commitment, and client-first mindset that drove their explosive growth from day one. With an emphasis on emotional connection, tech-forward operations, and agile leadership, Charles and Nick's story is packed with battle-tested strategies and hard-earned insights for any law firm looking to stand out — and win — in today's hyper-competitive market. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – From Law School Roommates to Law Firm Founders 06:19 – Building the Firm During Uncertainty and Sleepless Nights 11:45 – The Turning Point: A Case That Changed Everything 14:31 – Competing in One of the Nation's Toughest Legal Markets 18:34 – Team Composition, Growth Strategy, and Embracing AI 23:37 – Leadership Lessons: Individual Focus and Effective Communication 27:55 – Defining Firm Culture: Excellence, Empathy & Evolution 42:08 – Personal Growth, Client Experience & What's Next ---- Links & Resources: Charles Buist Nicholas Spetsas Mark Cuban Lior Weinstein Chris Voss The Bachelorette ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 323. James Lawrence — The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination 259. David Craig — How to Build a Law Firm That Stands the Test of Time 246. AMMA — From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Key Differences Between Winners and Losers

Are you questioning the traditional trajectory of the legal profession and craving a game plan to grow your firm and live a more fulfilling life? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with powerhouse plaintiffs attorney Ben Glass — founder of Ben Glass Law, best-selling author, and the visionary behind Great Legal Marketing. You'll hear how Ben redefined success on his own terms — from growing up as the oldest of seven to launching a movement that's transforming how attorneys lead their firms and their lives. Here's what you'll learn: Discover how to align your law firm with your personal values to drive greater fulfillment, enhance team cohesion, and deliver a client experience that creates lasting loyalty Understand the critical mindset shifts that empower firm owners to break free from guilt, expand their capacity for growth, and actively seek ways to continue to learn  Implement bold, practical marketing strategies that cut through the noise while simultaneously cultivating a high-performing culture where your team is inspired, aligned, and driven to win Tune in as Ben shares the mindset shifts that shaped his path, the impact of athletics on building resilience, and why he's on a mission to help lawyers stop settling and start living. If you're ready to challenge the status quo and build a firm that reflects your purpose and potential, this episode delivers the clarity and strategy you've been looking for. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:15 – From Soccer Fields to Courtrooms: Ben's Journey into Law 08:42 – What Playing Left Fullback Taught Ben About Business 11:52 – Living Life Big: Designing a Practice Around What Matters 16:48 – Why Lawyer Wellness Starts with Choosing a Better Default 20:16 – The Mindset Shifts That Unlock Entrepreneurial Freedom 26:38 – Standing Out with Grassroots Marketing (and Answering the Phone) 29:43 – Building a Team That Stays, Grows, and Recruits for You 39:13 – The Secret Power of Podcasting and Repurposing Content ---- Links & Resources: BenGlassLaw Crisp The Game Changing Attorney by Michael Mogill TikTok ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 249. Codie Sanchez — Maximizing Income: Strategies for Achieving Financial Freedom 287. Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation 210. AMMA — Failure Isn't Final: Lessons Learned From Setbacks and Struggles

What does it really take to shatter the boundaries of human endurance? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down once again with James Lawrence — the unstoppable force better known as the Iron Cowboy. Renowned for doing what most would call impossible, James made headlines by completing 50 Ironmans in 50 days across all 50 states and then pushed the bar even higher with his legendary Conquer 100 challenge. Here's what you'll learn: How to build unshakable systems that eliminate decision fatigue — so discipline becomes automatic and success becomes your default Why doing the hard, uncomfortable things you'd rather avoid is the fastest way to build mental toughness and bulletproof yourself against adversity How to turn personal wins into powerful mentorship — transforming your achievements into growth engines for your team and fulfillment for you James is more than an elite endurance athlete — he's a master of mental grit and discipline. As the Iron Cowboy, he's not just defying limits; he's redefining what's possible through sheer resilience and an unbreakable mindset. Be sure to check out James Lawrence's powerful new book, Iron Hope — a raw, inspiring look into the mindset, struggles, and triumphs behind his most audacious challenges and a blueprint for pushing past your own perceived limits. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 02:29 – You Don't Need to Be Special — Just Relentless 08:41 – Iron Hope: How to Reignite Purpose Through Action 10:39 – Defining Mental Toughness & Building It Through Discomfort 15:13 – Winning the Internal Conversation: Systems Over Feelings 21:18 – Cold Plunges, Confidence, and Stacking Daily Wins 26:34 – Discipline Is a System, Not a Personality Trait 29:33 – Why Mastering the Mundane Creates Champions 44:10 – Post-Victory Void: What Happens After the Goal Is Reached ---- Links & Resources: James Lawrence Iron Cowboy by James Lawrence Iron Hope by James Lawrence Atomic Habits by James Clear Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 255. Joe De Sena — The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 303. Eric Thomas — Turning Struggles into Strength: A Blueprint for Resilience 331. AMMA — Failure to Reflect is Failure to Grow: The Brutal Truth About Staying Stuck

Could your firm be missing out on its true potential by relying on traditional motivation techniques? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with renowned motivation expert Susan Fowler to challenge the outdated paradigms of incentivization in the workplace. With insights drawn from her extensive research and real-world applications, Susan offers a fresh perspective on how law firm leaders can cultivate a genuinely motivating environment. Here's what you'll learn: The distinction between suboptimal and optimal motivation and how quality-focused motivation leads to more sustainable and fulfilling outcomes The importance of supporting employees' psychological needs: choice, connection, and competence — and how these enhance employee engagement and reduce turnover in law firms The significance of aligning personal and organizational values to create a thriving work environment, enabling conscious growth and long-term success for both individuals and firms By unlocking the secrets behind psychological energy, Susan reveals how understanding the deeper layers of human motivation can lead to unprecedented growth, not just financially but also in terms of employee satisfaction and performance. Listen in to discover how you can transform your firm's culture and drive meaningful change. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 03:22 – Why Motivating People Doesn't Work (and What Does) 07:15 – Suboptimal vs. Optimal Motivation: The Six Types 12:40 – The Three Psychological Needs: Autonomy, Connection, and Competence 22:08 – Creating Autonomy Within Structure 26:47 – Building Genuine Connection at Work 34:02 – Encouraging Growth: Competence and Learning Cultures 43:30 – Why “What Motivates You?” Is the Wrong Question 58:16 – Final Thoughts and What Being a Game Changer Means ---- Links & Resources: Why Motivating People Doesn't Work… and What Does by Susan Fowler YouTube B.F. Skinner Operant Conditioning Master Your Motivation: Three Scientific Truths for Achieving Your Goals by Susan Fowler Self-determination theory Dr. Edward Deci Dr. Richard Ryan IBM Garry Ridge Dr. Jacques Forest Drea Zigarmi Mark Cuban Anne Brafford The Prevalence of Substance Use and Other Mental Health Concerns Among American Attorneys Binge Drinking by Occupation Groups among Currently Employed U.S. Adults 2022 Report on the State of the Legal Market: Despite a strong year, numerous & growing challenges confront law firms Institute For Well-Being In Law McKinsey & Company: Winning back your workers ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 334. Dr. Benjamin Hardy — From Limiting Beliefs to Limitless Potential: A Guide to Personal Growth 240. Jessica Mogill — Why Hiring A-Players is Important 189. AMMA — How to Preserve Your Culture While Scaling Your Business

What if your firm's greatest asset is slipping through your fingers, unnoticed? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives deep into the pressing issues law firm owners face as leaders and attorneys. From understanding the critical dynamics of attorney retention to bridging the ever-present generational gaps within the workplace, this episode offers actionable insights to help grow your firm effectively. Here's what you'll learn: How to identify the true reasons behind attorney departures and enhance their experience with effective feedback systems Strategies to unify your firm's culture across different generations, fostering continuous learning and effective mentorship How to manage feedback without hindering productivity, focusing on actionable insights that drive business growth As you navigate the challenges of attorney retention and workplace culture, these insights could be the key to unlocking your firm's potential. Don't let minor issues stand in the way of major progress — tune in and discover how to foster growth, unity, and a shared vision within your team. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 03:14 – Why Top Talent Really Leaves Your Firm 10:33 – Creating a Future Your Team Wants to Be Part Of 15:22 – Stay Interviews vs. Exit Interviews: Getting Real Feedback 19:18 – Bridging the Generational Gap in Firm Culture 26:30 – Avoiding Open Door Overload: When Feedback Goes Too Far 34:05 – Separating Signal from Noise: Feedback That Actually Matters 39:58 – A Culture of Ownership: Encouraging Problem Solvers 43:01 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Game Changers Summit ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 278. Adam Alter — From Stuck to Unstoppable: Gaining and Keeping Momentum 245. Sheila Heen — How to Master Difficult Conversations 219. AMMA — A Deeper Look at Leadership

Welcome to a landmark episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast! Today marks five years. Five years of conversations that have challenged convention, inspired action, and elevated what's possible in the legal industry. Over this journey, we've sat down with the boldest thinkers and most innovative leaders — the ones who aren't just playing the game, but changing it. And to celebrate this milestone, we're taking you back through some of the most powerful, perspective-shifting moments we've shared on this podcast. Here's what we'll rediscover: Jesse Cole's Revolutionary Approach: His fan-centric strategies with the Savannah Bananas that turned traditional baseball on its head Chris Voss's Negotiating Skills: The art of strategic control and curiosity in achieving successful outcomes John Morgan's Career Wisdom: Insights on navigating pivotal crossroads that define professional growth David Goggins's Relentless Drive: Exemplifying the power of pushing beyond limits and achieving the extraordinary Jan Dils's Bold Advertising Strategies: Daring tactics that challenged and transformed industry norms Thank you for being an essential part of this community. Your commitment to growth, innovation, and bold action is what makes this movement possible. Here's to the next chapter — to raising the bar, breaking through, and unlocking even greater potential. Let's dive in and revisit the defining moments that made these first five years unforgettable — and set the stage for what's next. ---- 00:00 – Introduction: 5 Years of Game Changing Conversations 02:18 – John Morgan on Knowing Your Worth & Taking the Leap 10:42 – Building a Scalable Law Firm with Non-Lawyer Leadership 15:49 – Jan Dils and the Power of Bold Advertising 24:36 – Overcoming Backlash to Build a Brand 30:04 – Jesse Cole on Turning Baseball into Entertainment 36:22 – Creating “You Wouldn't Believe” Fan Experiences 45:39 – David Goggins on Mental Toughness and Taking Souls 56:44 – Chris Voss: FBI Tactics for Better Negotiation ---- Links & Resources: Jesse Cole Chris Voss David Goggins Jan Dils ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 188. Liz Wiseman — Impact Players: How to Take the Lead, Play Bigger, and Multiply Your Impact 293. Elite Athletes — The Mental Edge: How Champions Overcome The Impossible 339. AMMA — The Growth Blueprint: What It Takes to Build a 7, 8, and 9-Figure Law Firm

Are you struggling to let go of day-to-day tasks, even though you know it could propel your firm to new heights? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill breaks down the essential moves every attorney must make to go from operator to leader — and why your firm's growth depends on it. You'll uncover the exact strategies to get out of the weeds, elevate your brand, and drive insane levels of trust, performance, and profitability. Here's what you'll learn: The importance of identifying and delegating tasks outside your unique skill set to focus on high-impact activities that drive your firm's scalability How to leverage your personal brand to cultivate a firm-wide standard of excellence, ensuring clients' trust beyond your direct involvement Strategies for stepping back from individual case management to embrace a leadership role that helps elevate your law firm and build a robust practice Whether you're a solo practitioner or running a fast-growing team, this episode delivers real talk and real strategy to help you define success on your terms — and build the law firm of the future. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 02:24 – Letting Go: Why Control Limits Growth 06:42 – When Is the Right Time to Step Back? 13:05 – Transitioning from Personal Brand to Firm Brand 18:53 – Building a Reputation Beyond Yourself 23:50 – Shifting Responsibilities: Highest & Best Use of Time 28:36 – Playing to Your Strengths (and Hiring to Cover the Rest) 34:22 – The Value of Operational Leadership: Hiring Your Game Changer 40:11 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: John Morgan University of Alabama JP Morgan Chase Charles Schwab Disney World ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 244. Rex Elliott — Committed to Impact: Transforming Adversities into Opportunities 287. Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation 308. AMMA — Overcoming Doubt: Turning Fear into Fuel

Have you considered that embracing authenticity might be the catalyst your law firm needs to accelerate growth and elevate your leadership impact? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Ross Pomerantz — better known as the mastermind behind “Corporate Bro.” Known for his brutally honest and hilarious take on the sales world, Ross has built a massive following by turning everyday professional absurdities into viral gold. From his early days grinding in tech sales to becoming a content icon, Ross opens up about his relentless pursuit of creativity, the power of humor, and why staying true to yourself is your greatest competitive advantage. Here's what you'll learn: Why bringing humanity into professional environments fosters stronger cultures, deeper connections, and more authentic business practices Learn how persistence, consistency, and owning your unique voice can create long-term success — no matter the industry Understand why mastering sales is non-negotiable for growth, and how respecting this function can unlock massive opportunities for your firm Join Michael and Ross as they unpack how humor, authenticity, and relentless execution can reshape business norms, build unforgettable brands, and challenge outdated definitions of “professionalism.” Whether you're scaling a law firm or building your personal brand, this episode will leave you with the mindset and tools to stand out, lead boldly, and win. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 03:45 – From Baseball to Sales: Ross's Unlikely Journey 09:22 – The Birth of Corporate Bro: Humor Meets Hustle 14:08 – Sadness as a Sales Philosophy 22:50 – Building a Brand Through Authenticity 30:17 – The Truth About Algorithms and Going Viral 38:55 – Walking the Line: Satire in a Hyper-Offended World 46:03 – Burnout, Mental Health, and Creative Longevity 52:49 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Ross ---- Links & Resources: Atlanta Braves Oracle Corporate Bro Dilbert comics Vine 8 Mile (film) Total Frat Move BroBible Brotopia by Emily Chang Larry Ellison Marc Benioff Madison Square Garden Software as a service (SaaS) ChatGPT Sweet James Duolingo DUDE Wipes Barstool Sports LeBron James Michael Jordan Golden State Warriors ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 211. Pat Flynn — Superfans: How to Stand Out, Grow Your Tribe, and Build a Successful Business 260. Robert Simon — The Superpower of Authenticity: Building Communities with Aligned Values 327. AMMA — The Secret to Growth: Trust, Talent, and Turning Reputation Into an Advantage

What does it take to rise above the noise and become the firm that lands the game changing cases in an industry drowning in competition? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill explores the dynamic intersection of marketing and legal expertise, uncovering the strategies that law firm leaders need to thrive in a rapidly evolving world. As technological advancements continue to reshape how we operate, understanding the balance between innovation and traditional practices becomes crucial. Here's what you'll learn: How to capture the attention of potential clients through innovative marketing techniques that make your law firm stand out in a content-saturated market The importance of merging marketing prowess with legal expertise to ensure your skills are recognized and you're securing the best cases How to evaluate and optimize your online advertising strategies and intake processes to maximize conversions for sustainable and scalable growth Discover what it takes to not just survive, but dominate in your space. Push past limits, break through barriers, and lead your firm into a future filled with massive growth and opportunity. Whether you're an industry titan or an up-and-comer hungry to make your mark, this is where you get the tools, mindset, and strategies to turn vision into reality. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – Why Best Known Beats Best: The Visibility Advantage 07:26 – Cutting Through the Noise: Standing Out in a Saturated Market 12:42 – The Role of Content: Engagement vs. Vanity Metrics 16:30 – Expertise vs. Attention: What Actually Drives Authority 20:45 – Social Media Strategies: How to Make Your Firm Impossible to Ignore 24:52 – Why More Budget Isn't Always the Answer 29:14 – Measuring What Matters: Tracking Impact, Not Just Spend 33:29 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Tesla Powerwalls Starlink Call of Duty David Goggins Joe Rogan ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 280. Rory Vaden — Reputation Precedes Revenue: Mastering the Art of Personal Branding 215. Flo Rida — Industry Innovation, Commitment to Your Craft, and Hit-Making 333. AMMA — Win More High-Value Cases: How to Build a Brand Clients Trust

Can the path to becoming a game-changing law firm be forged through tenacity and innovation in the face of adversity? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill welcomes James Amaro, Founder of the Amaro Law Firm and renowned trial attorney, to explore the journey from starting a practice to becoming a respected leader in the legal industry. James shares his experiences and insights on overcoming adversity, transforming a vision into reality, and fostering a culture of continuous growth and accountability. Here's what you'll learn: That navigating significant setbacks and treating each challenge as an opportunity are vital for growth and recovery in law firm management How implementing KPIs and SOPs can dramatically enhance a firm's culture and profitability by emphasizing accountability and structured performance Why adapting new strategies, such as leveraging AI and focus groups, is essential for maintaining competitiveness and achieving excellence in legal practice From weathering the toughest storms to leveraging innovation in trial preparation, James Amaro exemplifies the power of perseverance and strategic evolution. Join us as we unpack these invaluable lessons to inspire your firm's path to success. ---- 00:00 – Introduction 02:12 – Building a Law Firm from the Ground Up 06:45 – The Reality of Starting Over: Lessons from Setbacks 12:30 – Scaling from Solo to a Nationally Recognized Practice 17:22 – The Power of Mindset: How Resilience Defines Success 22:14 – Transforming a Law Practice into a Thriving Business 27:39 – Leadership, Accountability, and Building a High-Performance Culture 34:15 – The Role of Core Values and KPIs in Sustaining Growth 39:50 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Amaro Firm Hurricane Ike BP oil spill Peloton Biggie Smalls Tierra Del Fuego ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 264. Bill Perkins — Die with Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life 334. Dr. Benjamin Hardy — From Limiting Beliefs to Limitless Potential: A Guide to Personal Growth 304. AMMA — Creating a Culture of Success

How can law firms ride the wave of AI innovation to transform their practice, outpace competitors, and deliver unparalleled legal services? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill delves into the rapidly evolving world of AI and its profound implications for the legal sector. As the legal industry stands on the brink of a technological revolution, understanding and integrating AI can position law firms at the forefront of innovation. Here's what you'll learn: How AI innovation is accelerating at an unprecedented pace, with tech giants competing to push boundaries and approach artificial general intelligence Why experimenting with AI tools like ChatGPT and DeepSeek is crucial for discovering new opportunities and gaining competitive advantages The balance between leveraging AI for efficiency in transactional tasks and maintaining the human touch in areas like relationship building and strategic decision-making By embracing AI, law firms can enhance their efficiency, broaden their service capabilities, and focus on high-value strategic work that only humans can do best. This episode is your guide to understanding how AI can be integrated into your practice, creating a seamless blend of technology and human expertise to drive your firm's success into the future. Join us to explore how you can leverage AI to redefine your legal practice and ensure your firm remains a formidable competitor in an ever-evolving landscape. ---- Show Notes: 00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – The Rapid Evolution of AI and Its Competitive Landscape 07:45 – Cutting Through the Noise: Identifying AI Tools That Matter 12:32 – Experimentation and Curiosity: The Key to AI Adoption 17:09 – AI vs. Human-Driven Work: Finding the Right Balance 22:47 – The Future of Law Firms: Efficiency, Automation, and Strategic Work 28:15 – How AI is Reshaping Legal Services and Client Expectations 32:50 – The Truth About AI Replacing Lawyers: What's Actually Changing 38:10 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: ChatGPT Deep Seek Elon Musk Grok Three Anthropic Gemini Satya Nadella Tesla ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 321. Kyle Bachus — Harnessing Technology for Legal Success [Encore Edition] 289. John Morgan — Grow or Die: The Mindset of a Champion [Encore Edition] 194. AMMA — The Harsh Truth About Entrepreneurial Success

Is the key to your law firm's sustained growth found in the power of strategic marketing and an unwavering commitment to client service? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Scott Monge, Founder and CEO of Monge & Associates, to unpack the strategies behind building a thriving law firm through bold marketing investments and a relentless focus on client experience. Scott shares his insights on taking calculated risks, fostering a client-centered culture, and continuously innovating to stand out in a crowded legal market. Here's what you'll learn: Strategic marketing and branding, including bold advertising investments, are pivotal for firm growth and maintaining a competitive edge Focusing on exceptional client service through personalized experiences and gratitude initiatives helps create strong, positive client rapport and differentiates the firm in the market Embracing risks and learning from failures are essential for success, highlighting the importance of perseverance and constant innovation for personal and professional growth Scott Monge's journey is a testament to the impact of resilience, strategic branding, and delivering an unparalleled level of service. Tune in to discover how these principles can redefine success and position your firm for long-term industry dominance. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 03:14 – The Mindset Shift That Took Scott Monge to the Next Level 07:29 – Scaling a Law Firm: Lessons in Growth and Leadership 12:45 – The Importance of Culture and Team Buy-In 16:38 – Marketing Strategies That Drive Real Results 21:12 – Handling Challenges: How to Adapt and Overcome 26:05 – Building Systems That Sustain Long-Term Success 30:42 – The Role of Client Experience in Business Growth 35:18 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Thomas Edison Jim Collins Richard Branson Ken Hardison ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 296. Creating a Competitive Edge: Lessons in Legal Leadership 262. Roland Frasier — The Secret to Scale: How to Grow Your Business [Encore Edition] 308. AMMA — Overcoming Doubt: Turning Fear into Fuel

Could the secret to your law firm's breakthrough success be hidden in the art of prioritizing challenges and effectively leveraging resources? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill opens the dialogue on the relentless journey of leading a law firm and the mindset shifts necessary for success. Get ready to challenge your current practices and discover why sometimes, it takes stepping back and reassessing your approach to break through to the next level. Here's what you'll learn: Strategies for problem-solving that can turn challenges into opportunities for innovation and resilience The importance of taking action despite fear, making bold moves to avoid stagnation and ensure progress in your firm How to leverage resources like automation, delegation, and technology to maximize growth  By adopting a mindset focused on continuous problem-solving and bold action, law firms can not only overcome their current limitations but also set the stage for dynamic growth. Embrace these principles to foster innovation, enhance productivity, and establish your firm as a powerhouse of efficiency and forward-thinking leadership. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 04:23 – Why Growth Means Constant Problem-Solving 06:40 – Prioritizing Problems to Unlock Growth 09:19 – The Real Reason You're Afraid to Make Bold Moves 12:24 – Taking Action Before You Feel Ready 13:25 – Why Hard Work Alone Won't Scale Your Firm 16:34 – Leveraging People and Technology to Break Through 18:40 – Shifting from Time Economy to Results Economy 21:05 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: ChatGPT Claude Gemini ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 323. James Lawrence — The Power of One More: A Journey of Grit and Determination 259. David Craig — How to Build a Law Firm That Stands the Test of Time 246. AMMA — From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Key Differences Between Winners and Losers

What if the key to unlocking your law firm's full potential wasn't in the resumes you review but in understanding how your team is instinctively wired to take action? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill is joined by David Kolbe, CEO of Kolbe Corp and a thought leader in conative assessments. David shares his journey from the legal field to becoming an influential figure in helping organizations understand and harness instinctive strengths through the Kolbe assessment. The discussion dives into his insights on team dynamics, revealing the potential of both professional success and personal satisfaction by understanding one's inherent strengths. Here's what you'll learn: How understanding conative strengths through the Kolbe assessment can lead to increased productivity and job satisfaction Why aligning team roles with natural inclinations reduces burnout and enhances overall firm efficiency and growth How leveraging Kolbe insights can improve both professional relationships and personal dynamics, leading to more harmonious and effective interactions This episode holds the game plan for building a cohesive, motivated, and insanely effective team — the kind of team that doesn't just help you grow, but helps you dominate your market. Want to learn more about Kolbe? Email coach@crisp.co to learn more! ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:26 – David Kolbe's Journey from Lawyer to CEO 04:52 – Understanding Kolbe and the Three Parts of the Mind 09:56 – Are Your Strengths Innate or Learned? 12:48 – How Kolbe Transforms Hiring and Team Building 18:14 – Using Kolbe to Strengthen Personal Relationships 25:03 – Avoiding Burnout by Aligning Work with Your Strengths 31:33 – Leveraging Kolbe to Drive Firm Growth 46:22 – Final Thoughts and What It Means to Be a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: Kolbe Myers-Briggs (MBTI) DiSC Predictive Index LSAT SAT EOS Florencе Mykonos AI ChatGPT ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 328. Sherry Stewart Deutschmann — Transform Your Business with Bold, People-First Leadership 251. Alex Hormozi — The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 279. AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership

How can law firm leaders effectively navigate hiring, talent retention, and leadership empowerment to drive firm success? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill discusses recurring challenges and opportunities in building a high-performing law firm team. Drawing from personal anecdotes and extensive experiences managing a successful business, he delves into the nuances of refining hiring processes, strategically competing with larger firms, and fostering a culture that empowers team members to solve complex problems independently. Here's what you'll learn: Why refining the hiring process can ensure the right talent aligns with firm needs How smaller law firms can compete for top talent by emphasizing growth opportunities and unique roles Why empowering teams to solve problems independently fosters a culture of autonomy and scalability For law firm leaders, embracing these strategies isn't just about growing their teams; it's about setting the foundation for sustainable success and creating an environment conducive to innovation and execution. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – Why Most Law Firms Keep Hiring the Wrong People 06:29 – The Danger of Hiring Based on Interviews Alone 09:34 – Execution vs. Strategy: What Your Firm Actually Needs 13:13 – How to Compete for Top Talent Without the Biggest Budget 16:54 – The Hidden Advantage of Smaller Firms in Hiring 18:04 – Why Having More Employees Doesn't Mean Less Work for You 20:57 – The Importance of Problem-Solving in a Growing Firm 23:57 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Atlanta SaaS (Software as a Service) MacBook NVIDIA YouTube Spotify Apple Podcasts Tesla ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 286. AMMA — Innovate, Don't Imitate: Handling Competitors, Critics, and Copycats 301. Michael Cowen — Investing in Legal Excellence: Training, Tools, and Team Building 262. Roland Frasier — The Secret to Scale: How to Grow Your Business [Encore Edition]

How can attorneys integrate leadership, strategy, and branding to build a thriving firm? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Jay Kelley, managing partner of Elk + Elk, to explore how one of Ohio's largest personal injury firms has evolved and flourished. Jay shares his unconventional journey into law, drawing from an early love of persuasive speaking he discovered through acting, and how this unique background has shaped his approach to becoming a trial attorney. Here's what you'll learn: How transformative life experiences can shape your practice and lead you to a fulfilling legal career The importance of building a firm culture that is both collaborative and capable of handling serious, complex cases Why strategic brand building and community engagement are crucial for long-term success in the legal industry Law firm leaders who truly want to elevate their impact need to go beyond just winning cases — they need to transform their firms from the inside out. This isn't just about marketing strategies or business development — it's about embodying authenticity, perseverance, and a relentless commitment to growth. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:16 – Jay Kelley's Journey: From Prosecutor to Plaintiff's Attorney 05:55 – The Power of Listening in the Courtroom 07:35 – Finding Purpose in Medical Malpractice Cases 09:07 – Balancing Being a Trial Attorney and a Law Firm Business Leader 12:46 – Branding a Law Firm: Standing Out in a Competitive Market 17:45 – Community Involvement and Brand Recall Strategies 25:50 – The Difference Between Brand Recall and Credibility 31:52 – Transitioning a Law Firm's Leadership and Legacy 42:56 – What It Means to Be a Game-Changing Attorney ---- Links & Resources: The Abbey Theatre Arthur M. Elk David J. Elk Cincinnati Reds Columbus Blue Jackets Cleveland Browns USO Dr. Kirk Wakefield Siri John P. O'Neil ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 174 — Joey Coleman — Never Lose a Client Again: Creating Memorable Experiences to Gain an Advocate for Life Episode 137 — Camille Vasquez — Authenticity is the Advantage Episode 119 — Jo-Ná Williams — The Entrepreneurial Attorney: Achieving Freedom by Serving Others

Navigating your law firm's growth journey becomes feasible when equipped with insights drawn from real-world experiences. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill delves into the realities of scaling a law firm across various stages of growth. He unpacks the challenges and triumphs encountered on the path from six to nine figures, offering a roadmap for legal entrepreneurs determined to propel their firms to new heights. Here's what you'll learn: Why delegating tasks that aren't within your expertise can create the capacity needed to break through the early growth stages The importance of implementing repeatable systems and processes that ensure quality in service delivery Why evolving your leadership skills and nurturing a strong company culture are essential components for expansion With these insights, law firm owners can elevate their practices beyond just case management, building a legacy marked by innovation, empowerment, and continued advancement in the legal field. This isn't just about managing your practice – it's about redefining your potential and igniting your firm's growth trajectory.  ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:16 – The Reality of Law Firm Growth: Why It's Harder Than You Think 05:51 – The Truth About Scaling: No Silver Bullet, Only Systems 09:21 – Breaking Through Six Figures: Grit, Capacity, and Delegation 14:55 – The Seven-Figure Struggle: Leadership, Hiring, and Culture 19:34 – The Pain of Scaling: Outgrowing Systems and Processes 24:38 – The Path to Eight Figures and Beyond: Leadership Overhaul 27:06 – The Road to Nine Figures: Rebuilding, Risk, and Relentless Growth 30:17 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Atlanta Game Changers Summit S&P 500 ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 261 — AMMA — The X Factor of Legal Market Domination Episode 320 — John Morgan — Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality Episode 333 — AMMA — Win More High-Value Cases: How to Build a Brand Clients Trust

What if understanding your body could be the key to unlocking peak performance in the high-pressure world of leadership? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Will Ahmed, CEO and Founder of WHOOP, the cutting-edge fitness tracker designed to optimize human performance through detailed health metrics. Together, they explore the critical data that can transform how law firm owners manage stress, enhance recovery, and maintain high output. Here's what you'll learn: How data-driven insights can help law firm owners understand the physiological impacts of stress and recovery on leadership performance The ways in which personalized health metrics can foster a culture of resilience and sustained high achievement within your practice Techniques for transforming traditional work environments by using WHOOP to create a feedback loop, enhancing both employee well-being and organizational effectiveness By integrating WHOOP's data-driven approach, law firm leaders can foster a proactive work culture, anticipate challenges with agility, and build a legacy defined by resilience and excellence. It's not just about managing cases — it's about empowering yourself and your team with the tools to thrive in the demanding legal landscape. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:16 – Unlocking Human Performance Through Data 05:42 – The Early Challenges of Building WHOOP 09:27 – Understanding Heart Rate Variability and Recovery 14:10 – How Entrepreneurs Can Optimize Their Performance 20:47 – Sleep, Stress, and the Science of Recovery 27:02 – How WHOOP Innovated Rapidly During the COVID-19 Pandemic 36:48 – The Future of Wearable Technology and Human Optimization 44:32 – What It Means to Be a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: LeBron James Michael Phelps Heart rate variability Nike Fuelband Jawbone Fitbit REM sleep Blue light glasses PGA Tour Nick Watney Justin Thomas Respiratory Rate & COVID-19 WHOOP Study Michael Jordan Flu Game ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 186 — Eric Thomas — The Secret to Success Episode 171 — Adam Alter — Anatomy of a Breakthrough: How to Get Unstuck When It Matters Most Episode 263 — AMMA — What Growth Demands of Leaders

How can law firm owners go beyond mere survival and position their practice for long-term success in a rapidly changing legal landscape? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill explores the key strategies for building a future-focused law firm. He highlights the power of cultivating a culture of curiosity and continuous growth within your team and shares valuable insights on crafting a succession plan that ensures lasting impact and aligns with your firm's ultimate vision. Here's what you'll learn: Why being an innately curious, lifelong learner is essential for keeping your law firm competitive and adapting to new technologies and methods The key elements that maximize a law firm's value, ensuring operational independence and minimizing reliance on the firm owner, to achieve a profitable sale How to cultivate a thriving culture that aligns with your firm's ambitious growth goals, attracting top talent who are driven to succeed within your organization's values Thriving in the legal field isn't just about winning cases — it's about anticipating challenges before they arise and preparing your firm and clients with the right strategies to navigate them. By embracing a proactive mindset, law firms can transform potential setbacks into opportunities, strengthen client relationships, and establish a reputation built on resilience, foresight, and unwavering excellence. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:16 – Why Most People Don't Care About Your Vision 05:14 – The Power of Lifelong Learning and Curiosity 07:54 – AI, Adaptability, and the Future of Law Firms 12:19 – How to Build a Firm That Runs Without You 14:50 – Balancing Growth and Culture in a Competitive Market 18:52 – The Difference Between Headlines and Real Success 21:01 – Succession Planning: Who Should Take Over Your Firm? 26:52 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Chat GPT YouTube Python Atlanta SaaS Tech Crunch ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 291 — Tim Grover — The Dark Side of Achievement Episode 229 — David Goggins — Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within Episode 258 — AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth

What does it take for an attorney to not only excel in a specialized niche but also become a champion for client protection against financial deception? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill welcomes David Meyer, a pioneering force in the field of investment fraud law. Meyer reveals his journey from a chance encounter that shifted his career trajectory to becoming one of the leading figures in protecting clients from unscrupulous financial advisors. Here's what you'll take away: How specializing in a niche can transform your career and set your firm apart Why vigilant protective measures are crucial for safeguarding clients against financial exploitation How sharing client stories can serve as a powerful educational tool to prevent others from falling victim to similar fraudulent schemes Success in law isn't just about litigation — it's about foreseeing potential threats and equipping your firm and clients with the tools to avert them. By focusing on these proactive strategies, law firms can turn vulnerabilities into resilience, ensuring a legacy of trust and security in their client relationships. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:14 – Fighting Investment Fraud: How David Meyer Built His Practice 04:28 – The Landmark Case That Launched His Career 06:32 – Protecting Investors: Common Tactics of Bad Brokers 09:22 – Why Victims of Financial Fraud Blame Themselves 12:46 – Unbelievable Stories: The Dark Side of Financial Advising 17:47 – How to Vet a Financial Advisor and Avoid Scams 25:12 – Working With the SEC to Protect Investors 37:24 – What It Means to Be a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: The Investor Protector by David Meyer 2000 Dot-Com Bubble Continuing Legal Education (CLE) BrokerCheck.org Financial Industry Regulation Authority (FINRA) Ponzi scheme Stocks Bonds Mutual funds Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Expungement Robinhood ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 285 — Morgan Housel — Mastering the Psychology of Wealth: Beyond Money and Success Episode 197 — Robert Greene — The Laws of Power and Human Nature Episode 302 — AMMA — Leading with Integrity: How to Compete Ethically

How can a law firm transcend its current boundaries and manage the intricacies of organizational growth? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill breaks down the essential strategies for scaling a law firm, maintaining focus amid chaos, and developing the leadership skills necessary to drive sustained growth and innovation. Success isn't about avoiding challenges — it's about having the mindset and systems to adapt, execute, and thrive. Here's what you'll take away: How assessing your progress early in the year can help you adapt and stay on track with your goals Why investing in team incentives and aligning them with personal and firm goals can enhance performance  The importance of identifying whether your firm's growing pains are due to capacity or capability Growth in your firm isn't just about solving a set of problems; it's about cultivating a leadership mindset that constantly evaluates and evolves to new demands. By focusing on these core elements, you transform obstacles into opportunities for development, creating a robust foundation for enduring success and innovation in legal practice. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:13 – Are You Sticking to Your 2025 Goals? 05:45 – Building a Brand That Earns Trust 09:49 – Why Honoring Your Commitments is Key 13:26 – How to Leverage a Strong Reputation for Growth 17:52 – The Power of Promotion: Making Your Brand Known 21:19 – Hiring the Right People to Support Your Brand 18:45 – The One Hiring Rule That Saves You from Bad Decisions 19:27 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Atlanta Charlie Munger Hartsfield Jackson Airport TSA DMV  ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 287 — Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation Episode 265 — Jessica Mogill — Streamlined Operations: Relentless Execution Episode 230 — AMMA — How To Achieve Bigger Goals

What does it take to completely shift your mindset and unlock the next level of personal and professional success? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Benjamin Hardy — renowned organizational psychologist and best-selling author of Willpower Doesn't Work and Personality Isn't Permanent — to explore how to break free from self-imposed limitations and intentionally design a future of limitless potential. Here's what you'll take away: How changing the way you see your personality and future goals can break you free from limiting beliefs that are holding you back Why emotional growth is the key to handling stress and turning challenges into opportunities The power of strategic ignorance and surrounding yourself with the right people to sharpen your focus and eliminate distractions True transformation happens when you take control of your story — shaping your future to match your ambitions rather than letting circumstances define you. It's not just about seeing things differently; it's about rewriting how you interpret your past and setting the stage for the future you want. When you elevate your narrative, you shift from being reactive to becoming the driving force behind real change, opening doors to opportunities that align with your highest potential. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 01:07 – How and Why People Change Over Time 02:34 – Breaking Free from Self-Limiting Beliefs 05:31 – The Science Behind Personality Transformation 09:43 – The Role of Goals in Shaping Identity 14:43 – Overcoming Trauma and Rewriting Your Narrative 21:03 – Strategic Ignorance: Protecting Your Mental Space 29:40 – The Power of Environment in Driving Success 39:16 – What It Means to Be a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: Personality Isn't Permanent by Ben Hardy The Harvard Grant Study Daniel Gilbert Andre Norman Teleology and Philosophy Prospection Harvard University Charlie Trotter Oprah Winfrey Ernest Hemingway Dan Sullivan Ellen Langer Adam Grant Willpower Doesn't Work by Ben Hardy ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 297 — Ken Feinberg — Behind the 9/11 Compensation Fund: Navigating Tragedy & Complex Mediation Episode 190 — Kevin O'Leary — The Entrepreneurial Journey: Inside the Mind of Mr. Wonderful Episode 292 — AMMA — A Leader's Battle Against Complacency

What are the secrets to successfully standing out in a competitive legal market and attracting high-value cases? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill tackles the challenges law firms face in establishing a strong presence in the legal market. He breaks down the strategies that not only get you noticed but also create real, lasting connections with clients — so you're not just another option, you're the only option. Here's what you'll take away: How specializing in a specific niche can help law firms stand out by establishing authority and building a unique value proposition Why small firms with limited budgets need to leverage creativity to effectively compete against larger firms with extensive resources The importance of marketing and advertising in ensuring the most skilled lawyers are visible to their ideal clients The ultimate advantage comes from mastering your expertise and making sure the right people know about it. The best law firms don't just do great work — they make sure their market sees, hears, and believes it. When you position yourself as an authority in your practice area and strategically amplify that message, you stop chasing cases and start attracting the right clients who see you as the right choice. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – Why the Best Cases Go to the Best Marketers 05:31 – How to Attract High-Value Cases Consistently 08:16 – Standing Out Without a Massive Marketing Budget 10:43 – The Power of Social Media and Digital Marketing 12:33 – Competing Against Big Firms Without Overspending 15:21 – Why Being the Best Lawyer Isn't Enough 17:19 – Leveraging Authority to Build a Brand 18:42 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: David Craig Nick Rowley Adam Malone Joe Fried Atlanta American Bar Association ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 320 — John Morgan — Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality Episode 280 — Rory Vaden — Reputation Precedes Revenue: Mastering the Art of Personal Branding Episode 302 — AMMA — Leading with Integrity: How to Compete Ethically

How does one shatter the confines of convention to forge a groundbreaking legacy? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with legendary video game designer Cliff Bleszinski, who discusses his inspiring journey from avid gamer to trailblazing creator. Cliff's unrelenting drive for creativity and excellence not only helped him create iconic games but also mirrors powerful business strategies that transcend industries. Here's what you'll take away: How unwavering passion and determination can turn any enthusiast into a standout leader in their industry Why success in intricate projects demands a seamless blend of creativity and technology, underscoring the power of collaboration and effective leadership How thriving in a rapidly changing landscape requires adaptability to navigate cultural shifts with confidence Cliff's insights provide a masterclass in leadership and innovation, challenging the status quo to achieve exceptional outcomes.  ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – Cliff's Journey from Gamer to Game Designer 06:05 – The Creation of Jazz Jackrabbit and Unreal 09:48 – Building Unreal Engine and Shaping the Future of Gaming 14:32 – Gears of War: Revolutionizing Third-Person Shooters 19:58 – Balancing Player Expectations with Creative Freedom 22:24 – Crunch Culture in the Gaming Industry 26:49 – Diversity and Inclusion in Gaming: Progress and Challenges 30:21 – Lessons in Success, Failure, and Reinvention 45:34 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Space Invaders Epic Games Gears of War Fortnite Boss Key Productions Microsoft Word Simon & Schuster Legend of Zelda Atari Mario Sonic the Hedgehog Call of Duty Twitch Rocky Balboa Apollo Creed Nintendo Switch TikTok Super Bowl NCAA Xbox 360 YouTube The Rockefellers Facebook Virtual Reality Peloton ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 285 — Morgan Housel — Mastering the Psychology of Wealth: Beyond Money and Success Episode 222 — Colin O'Brady — Reach For Impossible: Crossing Antarctica Alone Episode 199 — Jesse Cole — Change the Game, Break the Rules, and Create an Unforgettable Experience

Consistency and strategic reflection — these are the twin engines that propel your law firm's trajectory toward success. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives into two game changers for overcoming stagnation and driving sustainable progress: an unwavering commitment to growth and a willingness to assess and adapt.  Here's what you'll take away: The transformative power of steady, committed efforts in building sustainable growth in both personal habits and business practices The importance of addressing root causes rather than symptoms in problem-solving — establishing a firm foundation for continual improvement and success The vital role of making time for introspection, enabling strategic decision-making and preventing repeated mistakes We don't settle for surface-level fixes here. We're talking about real solutions — solutions that redefine leadership, elevate operations, and push the boundaries of what's possible. The firms that integrate these practices don't just survive; they thrive.  Let's make your vision of success not just a possibility but an inevitability. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 01:52 – The Power of Consistency in Business and Life 03:11 – Breaking the Cycle: Addressing Root Issues Instead of Symptoms 06:33 – The Difference Between Fixing and Solving Problems 09:22 – Learning from Mistakes and Creating Systems for Success 12:53 – The Importance of Reflection: Why It's Crucial for Growth 17:15 – Growth Through Discomfort: Becoming the Person You're Meant to Be 21:38 – Defining Success on Your Own Terms 23:56 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Atlanta Falcons Game Changers Summit Jeff Bezos Elon Musk ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 319 — Hal Elrod — Unlocking Success Through Daily Habits Episode 270 — Sean Claggett — Fewer Cases, More Success: How Focused Work Leads to Bigger Wins Episode 258 — AMMA — The Power of No: Setting Boundaries for Focused Growth | Crisp

How do you navigate the complexities of identity and group dynamics to lead your law firm to greater success? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill engages with Jay Van Bavel, a distinguished social psychologist and professor at New York University, known for his extensive research on identity, group dynamics, and collective behavior. Together, they explore how understanding the fluid nature of identities and group behaviors can transform your leadership approach. Here's what you'll take away: The dynamic nature of personal and professional identities, and how leveraging this adaptability can enhance team cohesion The critical role of group dynamics in fostering a supportive and inclusive workplace culture, leading to more objective decision-making and improved business outcomes The importance of intellectual humility and encouraging productive dissent within your team, helping your firm navigate complex challenges with informed perspectives By mastering these concepts, law firm owners can build more cohesive teams, foster inclusivity, and make better, unbiased decisions that drive their firms forward. Leaders who embrace these insights learn to adapt their identities to different contexts, harness the power of shared purpose, and cultivate an environment where intellectual humility and dissent fuel innovation. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:16 – How Identity Shapes Group Behavior 05:07 – The Power of Shared Experiences in Teams 08:36 – Adapting and Shifting Identities as a Leader 12:09 – Overcoming Bias and the “Blind Spot” Effect 18:44 – Belonging, Conspiracy Theories, and Cult Psychology 27:13 – Practicing Intellectual Humility to Improve Decisions 39:53 – Lessons from Moral Rebels and Leadership 44:07 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Aristotle Walt Whitman Princeton Dartmouth Ohio State University Enron Bethlehem Steel NASA New York University Leon Festinger The Vow Nexium Martin Luther King Jr. Red Cross Doctors Without Borders ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 245 — Sheila Heen — How to Master Difficult Conversations | Crisp Episode 315 — Robert Greene — The Truth About Influence Episode 304 — AMMA—Creating a Culture of Success

How can you shift from sitting back and letting things unfold to taking charge and guaranteeing success in your practice? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill unpacks how law firm owners can stop relying on fleeting motivation and instead cultivate an unwavering commitment to their vision. Success doesn't come by accident — it's built through intentional long-term planning and execution. Here's what you'll take away: How adopting a “Make It Happen” mindset can motivate you by fostering accountability and proactive goal-setting The significance of commitment over motivation, emphasizing the need for consistent effort, clear goal-setting, and strategic planning Why planning ahead enables you to set achievable goals over an extended timescale, allowing for realistic growth and sustainable success By defining clear goals and prioritizing consistent progress, you can escape the chaos of daily demands and focus on sustainable growth strategies. Leaders who foster this mindset empower their teams to execute at a higher level, align their daily actions with their vision, and ultimately transform their firms into market leaders. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:16 – Making Things Happen vs. Letting Things Happen 05:34 – Why Lowering Your Goals Leads to Mediocrity 07:15 – How to Make Success Inevitable 09:43 – The Role of Accountability and Clear Metrics 13:47 – Pivoting vs. Staying the Course: How to Decide 18:32 – Balancing Ambition with Realistic Timelines 21:36 – The Power of Long-Term Thinking 22:11 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Falcons Patriots Bill Perkins James Clear Atomic Habits by James Clear Jay Papasan The One Thing by Gary Keller and James Papasan Willpower Doesn't Work by Benjamin Hardy Ironman ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 320 — John Morgan — Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality Episode 278 — Adam Alter — From Stuck to Unstoppable: Gaining and Maintaining Momentum Episode 217 — AMMA — The Key to Clarity in Business | Crisp

How do empathy and employee investment transform a business into a powerhouse of growth and innovation? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill interviews Sherry Stewart Deutschmann, entrepreneur, speaker, and author of Lunch With Lucy: Maximize Your Profits By Investing In Your People. From humble beginnings, Sherry built a 40 million dollar company that was included in the Inc. 5000 List of Fasting Growing Private Companies for 10 years straight. Here's what you'll take away: How an employee-centric approach can drive business success by fostering transparency, trust, and engagement among your team The importance of empathetic leadership that enables you to connect with your employees on a personal level and integrate their feedback into actionable business improvements Why company-wide financial transparency leads to a more motivated, cohesive team that drives profitability and growth The secret to building a thriving law firm isn't just about financial growth — it's about elevating and empowering your team. Success comes from creating a people-first culture where employees are supported, challenged, and inspired to grow. When you invest in your team and align them with a shared vision, you unlock their full potential, driving results and redefining success not just for your business but for everyone involved. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – From Humble Beginnings to Entrepreneurial Success 08:05 – Creating an Employee-Centric Business Model 12:03 – Revolutionizing Profit Sharing: A Monthly Approach 17:34 – Rolling Out Perks That Drive Engagement 21:16 – Why Transparency Fuels Buy-In and Productivity 25:30 – Lunch with Lucy: Building Relationships with Employees 34:59 – Lessons Learned from Selling the Company 39:38 – What Being a Game Changer Means to Sherry Stewart Deutschman ---- Links & Resources: Jehovah's Witnesses Volkswagen Rabbit Mercury Lynx Nuts! by Kevin Freiberg Scripps Health Crossfit NetSuite Lunch with Lucy by Sherry Stewart Deutschmann Gallup Employee Engagement Study BrainTrust Entrepreneurs Organization (EO) ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 301 — Michael Cowen — Investing in Legal Excellence: Training, Tools, and Team Building Episode 279 — AMMA — Building Trust Through Authentic Leadership Episode 260 — Robert Simon — The Superpower of Authenticity: Building Communities with Aligned Values | Crisp

What are the secrets to turning your law firm into a client magnet and industry leader? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives into transformational strategies for growing your law firm. Discover how setting clear goals and consistently following through can help you build a brand that earns trust and keeps clients coming back. Here's what you'll take away: How maintaining consistency can significantly enhance your success, whether in personal health routines or business management Why a strong brand is built on reliability and a unique value proposition, creating lasting trust and recognition in the legal industry Strategies for effectively showcasing your firm's successes and community involvement to amplify your reputation and attract new clients The key to limitless opportunities lies in leveraging your reputation. A solid reputation alone isn't enough — it's how you amplify and strategically promote it that sets industry leaders apart. Transforming your firm's credibility into a magnet for high-value cases is the defining trait of game changers in the legal profession. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – Staying Accountable to Your Goals in the New Year 05:45 – Building a Brand That Clients Can Trust 09:16 – Leveraging a Strong Reputation for Faster Growth 13:23 – Hiring the Right People: Revealing True Character in Interviews 17:51 – Handling Stress and Situational Challenges in Hiring 19:02 – The “Hell Yes or Hell No” Hiring Philosophy 20:10 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: REM sleep The Game Changing Attorney by Michael Mogill ChatGPT ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 280 — Rory Vaden — Reputation Precedes Revenue: Mastering the Art of Personal Branding Episode 218 — Dr. Katy Milkman — How to Change: The Science of Getting From Where You Are to Where You Want to Be | Crisp Episode 196 — AMMA — The 9 Sources of Entrepreneurial Advantage | Crisp

How can upgrading your sleep with smart technology unlock next-level productivity and success? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Matteo Franceschetti, the innovative mind behind Eight Sleep. Learn how Matteo transitioned from a corporate law career to pioneering a sleep revolution that integrates smart technology and biometrics. Here's what you'll learn: Why embracing technology in your day-to-day can radically improve efficiency and elevate your quality of life How a commitment to high performance and operational precision can set you apart in a crowded market The impact of fostering meaningful partnerships and collaborations to expand your reach and create strategic opportunities Explore the challenges and breakthroughs of creating a revolutionary product from the ground up, and learn how fostering a results-driven culture can catapult your firm's success. This episode is your guide to using innovation to enhance health, boost efficiency, and dominate in an increasingly competitive world. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – The Origins of Eight Sleep: From Lawyer to Sleep Innovator 06:00 – Revolutionizing Sleep Through Technology 08:55 – The Science Behind Sleep Performance and Thermoregulation 14:09 – Debunking Sleep Myths: Do We Really Need 8 Hours? 18:24 – Long-Term Consequences of Poor Sleep 22:22 – Overcoming Challenges in Building Eight Sleep 32:14 – Decision-Making Frameworks for Success 43:19 – What It Means to Be a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: Eight Sleep LeBron James Mat Fraser Slack WhatsApp No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings and Erin Meyer Steve Jobs Formula 1 (F1) Lewis Hamilton George Russell Red Bull NFL ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 319 — Hal Elrod — Unlocking Success Through Daily Habits Episode 234 — Dr. Henry Cloud — Authentic & Transcendental Leadership | Crisp Episode 163 — AMMA — Ask Michael Mogill Anything: Patience, Priorities, and Productivity | Crisp

Are you tired of the relentless cycle of sacrifices without seeing the light at the end of the tunnel? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill cuts through the noise to reveal the secrets of transforming lofty resolutions into unstoppable progress. Unlock the power of delegation to reclaim your time and focus, propelling your firm toward success. Here's what you'll learn:  Why waiting for the "perfect moment" is the enemy of progress — and how taking immediate action drives real results How mastering delegation can reduce burnout and help you balance personal well-being with professional growth The critical role a clear vision plays in identifying the right opportunities and avoiding distractions as your firm grows As opportunities flood your way, learn how to wield clarity like a sword, cutting through distractions, and enhancing your firm's growth. This is your playbook for achieving focus and purpose in a competitive landscape, designed to elevate your practice to the next level. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 02:10 – The Reality of Starting and Scaling a Law Firm 06:05 – Learning to Delegate and Avoid Burnout 09:28 – Dealing with the Pressure of Always Having to Win 12:22 – Knowing When to Say No and Staying Focused 13:58 – Evaluating Opportunities: Frameworks for Decision-Making 15:46 – Building Wealth Through Focus and Concentration 16:14 – Balancing Commitments Between Work and Family 16:23 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources: Apple Tim Cook ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 249 — Codie Sanchez — Maximizing Income: Strategies for Achieving Financial Freedom | Crisp Episode 287 — Dan Martell — Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation Episode 210 — AMMA — Failure Isn't Final: Lessons Learned From Setbacks and Struggles | Crisp

Is the end of the year a time to hit cruise control — or your greatest opportunity for growth and preparation? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives into how leaders can turn the holiday season into a competitive edge. While others are slowing down, this is your chance to build momentum and set the stage for a record-breaking year ahead. Don't miss out on these year-end insights:  How proactive year-end planning is a powerful tool that will help you launch into the new year How to use criticism to fuel your ambition and transform skepticism into a driving force for success How reflecting on past successes and surrounding yourself with accomplished individuals can help you overcome self-doubt and turn uncertainty into confidence  Learn how to transform external criticism into a relentless source of internal motivation, empowering you to not only face but conquer your challenges with renewed vigor. This episode provides insights into the art of using self-reflection to overcome self-doubt and turn it into a wellspring of confidence and resilience. Redefine success by turning year-end obstacles into opportunities — because the finish line is just the springboard to your next big victory. ---- Show Notes:  00:00 – Introduction 03:11 – Turning Doubt into Motivation: Leveraging Dark Energy 05:43 – Preparing for the New Year: Hitting the Ground Running 08:33 – Responding to Skeptics and Naysayers: Success as Revenge 15:03 – Battling Self-Doubt: Building Confidence Through Action 18:29 – Measuring Progress: Focusing on the Gain, Not the Gap 20:47 – Handling Success: Why Quiet Winning is the Ultimate Move 27:39 – The Power of Restraint: Success Speaks for Itself 29:18 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways ---- Links & Resources Dan Sullivan The Gap and the Gain by Dan Sullivan Warren Buffett Tom Brady Nick Saban Robert Greene ---- Listening to this episode but want to watch it? Check it out on Spotify.  Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: Episode 306 — AMMA — From Ramen to Rolex: Celebrating Milestones Wisely Episode 260 — Robert Simon — The Superpower of Authenticity: Building Communities with Aligned Values | Crisp Episode 153 — AMMA — Ask Michael Mogill Anything: Risks, Rewards, and Role Modeling | Crisp