Podcast appearances and mentions of erin fox

John and Paige talk with photographer/tour manager/many-hat-wearer Ashley Gellman about life on the road and at home. Ashley has worked with artists like Bartees Strange, Jamie xx, Jonas Brothers, boygenius, and is currently on the road with Lucy Daucus. She's a larger-than-life personality, and she breaks down her life on the road, her upbringing as an independent kid doing her own thing, her relationships with the early artists she worked with, found family amidst her touring peers, and how to capture the best shot without being in the way. Amidst a whirlwind of travel and work, Ashley talks in depth about how she's grown to embrace being home, and how she balances the "all-in" touring lifestyle with the calmer vibes of being back in Philadelphia. If you can manage to pin her down, Ashley does do photo shoots for hire when she can, so follow her on IG.  On Sunday, May 18th, the 12th annual Brain Fest is happening at Fringe Bar in Philadelphia from 5pm to midnight. Brain Fest raises money and awareess for treatment of brain tumor, with all the proceeds going to the American Brain Tumor Association. Performers include Adventure Lost, The Lunar Year, Alright Junior, Trash Boy, Erin Fox and the Hounds, Annalise Curtim, and more. More info available at their event posting and at the ABTA donation site. 

This week, Erin Fox gets revenge for being forced to watch Rebel Moon - Part One by forcing Joel and Andy to watch Rebel Moon - Part Two.

Wall Street Journal reporter Dana Mattioli discusses her book "The Everything War: Amazon's Ruthless Quest to Own the World and Remake Corporate Power."Then, Erin Fox with the University of Utah Drug Information Service delves into the current drug shortages impacting the nation. And Kirsten Gunnerud and Melissa Garland discuss the April Fundraiser for the Women's Inspired Network at the Yoga Mastery Institute.

This episode we talk about car thefts on the rise, and history/ legacy of Mardi Gras. Our featured artist this week is Erin Fox with a special in-studio live performance.

Joel and Andy are joined by Zack Snyder aficionado Erin Fox to discuss the director's Star Wars inspired Rebel Moon: Part One - A Child of Fire.

Kent C. Dodds, a JavaScript engineer and teacher known for Epic Web Dev and the Remix web framework, reflects on his journey in tech, including his tenure at PayPal and his transition to full-time teaching. Kent's passion for teaching is a constant theme throughout. He transitioned from corporate roles to full-time education, capitalizing on his ability to explain complex concepts in an accessible manner. This transition was marked by the creation of successful online courses like "Testing JavaScript and Epic React," which have significantly influenced the web development community. An interesting aspect of Kent's career is his involvement with Remix, including his decision to leave Shopify (which acquired Remix) to return to teaching, which led to the development of his latest project, Epic Web Dev, an extensive and innovative web development course. This interview provides a comprehensive view of Kent C. Dodds's life and career, showcasing his professional achievements in web development and teaching, his personal life as a family man, and his unique upbringing in a large family. Epic Web (https://www.epicweb.dev/) Remix (https://remix.run/) Follow Kent C. Dodds on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kentcdodds/) or X (https://twitter.com/kentcdodds). Visit his website at kentcdodds.com (https://kentcdodds.com/). Follow thoughtbot on X (https://twitter.com/thoughtbot) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/150727/). Become a Sponsor (https://thoughtbot.com/sponsorship) of Giant Robots! Transcript: WILL: This is the Giant Robots Smashing Into Other Giant Robots podcast, where we explore the design, development, and business of great products. I'm your host, Will Larry. And with me today is Kent C. Dodds. Kent is a JavaScript engineer and teacher. He has recently released a massive workshop called epicweb.dev. And he is the father of four kids. Kent, thank you for joining me. KENT: Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be here. WILL: Yeah. And it's an honor for me to have you. I am a huge fan. I think you're the one that taught me how to write tests and the importance of it. So, I'm excited to talk to you and just pick your brain and learn more about you. KENT: Oh, thank you. WILL: Yeah. So, I just want to start off just: who is Kent? What do you like to do? Tell us about your family, your hobbies, and things like that. KENT: Yeah, sure. So, you mentioned I'm the father of four kids. That is true. We are actually expecting our fifth child any day now. So, we are really excited to have our growing family. And when I'm not developing software or material for people to learn how to develop software, I'm spending time with my family. I do have some other hobbies and things, but I try to share those with my family as much as I can. So, it's starting to snow around here in Utah. And so, the mountains are starting to get white, and I look forward to going up there with my family to go skiing and snowboarding this season. During the summertime, I spend a lot of time on my one-wheel just riding around town and bring my kids with me when I can to ride bikes and stuff, too. So, that's sort of the personal side of my life. And then, professionally, I have been in this industry developing for the web professionally for over a decade. Yeah, web development has just worked out super well for me. I kind of focused in on JavaScript primarily. And when I graduated with a master's degree in Information Systems at Brigham Young University, I started working in the industry. I bounced around to a couple of different companies, most of them you don't know, but you'd probably be familiar with PayPal. I was there for a couple of years and then decided to go full-time on teaching, which I had been doing as, like, a part-time thing, or, like, on the side all those years. And yeah, when teaching was able to sustain my family's needs, then I just switched full-time. So, that was a couple of years ago that I did that. I think like, 2018 is when I did that. I took a 10-month break to help Remix get off the ground, the Remix web framework. They got acquired by Shopify. And so, I went back to full-time teaching, not that I don't like Shopify, but I felt like my work was done, and I could go back to teaching. So, that's what I'm doing now, full-time teacher. WILL: Wow. Yes, I definitely have questions around that. KENT: [laughs] Okay. WILL: So many. But I want to start back...you were saying you have four kids. What are their ages? KENT: Yeah, my oldest is 11, youngest right now is 6, and then we'll have our fifth one. So, all four of the kids are pretty close in age. And then my wife and I thought we were done. And then last December, we kind of decided, you know what? I don't think we're done. I kind of think we want to do another. So, here we go. We've got a larger gap between my youngest and the next child than we have between my oldest and the youngest child. WILL: [chuckles] KENT: So, we're, like, starting a new family, or [laughs] something. WILL: Yeah [laughs]. I just want to congratulate you on your fifth child. That's amazing. KENT: Thank you. WILL: Yeah. How are you feeling about that gap? KENT: Yeah, we were pretty intentional about having our kids close together because when you do that, they have built-in friends that are always around. And as they grow older, you can do the same sorts of things with them. So, like, earlier this year, we went to Disneyland, and they all had a great time. They're all at the good age for that. And so, they actually will remember things and everything. Yeah, we were pretty certain that four is a good number for us and everything. But yeah, we just started getting this nagging feeling we wanted another one. So, like, the fact that there's a big gap was definitely not in the plan. But I know a lot of people have big gaps in their families, and it's just fine. So, we're going to be okay; just it's going to change the dynamic and change some plans for us. But we're just super excited to have this next one. WILL: I totally understand what you mean by having them close together. So, I have three little ones, and my oldest and my youngest share the same exact birthday, so they're exactly three years apart. KENT: Oh, wow. Yeah, that's actually...that's fun. My current youngest and his next oldest brother are exactly two years apart. They share the same birthday, too [laughs]. WILL: Wow. You're the first one I've heard that their kids share a birthday. KENT: Yeah, I've got a sister who shares a birthday with her son. And I think we've got a couple of birthdays that are shared, but I also have 11 brothers and sisters [laughs]. And so, I have got a big family, lots of opportunity for shared birthdays in my family. WILL: Yeah, I was actually going to ask you about that. How was it? I think you're the 11th. So, you're the youngest of 11? KENT: I'm the second youngest. So, there are 12 of us total. I'm number 11. WILL: Okay, how was that growing up with that many siblings? KENT: I loved it. Being one of the youngest I didn't really...my experience was very different from my older siblings. Where my older siblings probably ended up doing a fair bit of babysitting and helping around the house in that way, I was the one being babysat. And so, like, by the time I got to be, like, a preteen, or whatever, lots of my siblings had already moved out. I was already an uncle by the time I was six. I vaguely remember all 12 of us being together, but most of my growing up was just every other year; I'd have another sibling move out of the house, which was kind of sad. But they'd always come back and visit. And now I just have an awesome relationship with every one of my family members. And I have something, like, 55 nieces and nephews or more. Yeah, getting all of us together every couple of years for reunions is really a special experience. It's a lot of fun. WILL: Yeah. My mom, she had 12 brothers and sisters. KENT: Whoa. WILL: And I honestly miss it because we used to get together all the time. I used to live a lot closer. Most of them are in Louisiana or around that area, and now I'm in South Florida, so I don't get to see them as often. But yeah, I used to love getting together. I had so many cousins, and we got in so much trouble...and it was -- KENT: [laughs] WILL: We loved it [laughs]. KENT: Yeah, that's wonderful. I love that. WILL: Yeah. Well, I want to start here, like, how did you get your start? Because I know...I was doing some research, and I saw that, at one point, you were an AV tech. You were a computer technician. You even did maintenance. Like, what was the early start of your career like, and how did you get into web dev? KENT: I've always been very interested in computers, my interest was largely video games. So, when I was younger, I had a friend who was a computer programmer or, like, would program stuff. We had visions of...I don't know if you're familiar with RuneScape, but it's this game that he used to play, and I would play a little bit. It was just a massive online multiplayer game. And so, we had visions of building one of those and having it just running in the background, making us money, as if that's how that works [laughter]. But he tried to teach me programming, and I just could not get it at all. And so I realized at some point that playing video games all the time wasn't the most productive use of my time on computers, and if I wanted my parents to allow me to be on computers, I needed to demonstrate that I could be productive in learning, and making things, and stuff. So, I started blogging and making videos and just, like, music videos. My friend, who was the programmer, he was into anime, or anime, as people incorrectly pronounce it. And [laughs] there was this website called amv.com or .org or something. It's Anime Music Videos. And so, we would watch these music videos. And I'd say, "I want to make a music video with Naruto." And so, I would make a bunch of music videos from the Naruto videos I downloaded, and that was a lot of fun. I also ran around with a camera to do that. And then, with the blog, I wrote a blog about Google and the stuff that Google was, like, doing because I just thought it was a fascinating company. I always wanted to work at Google. In the process of, like, writing the blog, I got exposed to CSS and HTML, but I really didn't do a whole lot of programming. I also did a little bit of Google Docs. Spreadsheets had some JavaScript macros-type things that you could do. So, I did a little bit of that, but I never really got too far into programming. Then I go to college, I'm thinking, you know what? I think I want to be a video editor. I really enjoy that. And so, my brother, who at the time was working at Micron, he did quality assurance on the memory they were making. So, he would build test automation, software and hardware for testing the memory they build. And so, he recommended that I go into electrical engineering. Because what he would say is, "If you understand computers at that foundational level, you can do anything with computers." And I'd say, "Well, I like computers. And if I go into video editing, I'm going to need to understand computers, too. So yeah, sure, let's let's do that." I was also kind of interested in 3D animation and stuff like that, too. Like, I wasn't very good at it, but I was kind of interested in that, too. So, I thought, like, having a really good foundation on computers would be a good thing for me. Well, I was only at school for a semester when I took a break to go on a mission for my church [inaudible 09:42] mission. And when I got back and started getting back into things, I took a math refresher course. That was, like, a half a credit. It wasn't really a big thing, but I did terrible in it. I did so bad. And it was about that time that I realized, you know what? I've been thinking my whole life that I'm good at math. And just thinking back, I have no idea why or any justification for why I thought I was good at math because in high school, I always struggled with it. I spent so much time with it. And in fact, my senior year, I somehow ended up with a free period of nothing else to do. I don't know how this happened. But, I used that free period to go to an extra edition of my calculus class. So, I was going to twice as much calculus working, like, crazy hard and thinking that I was good at this, and I superduper was not [laughter]. And so, after getting back from my mission and taking that refresher course, I was like, you know what? Math is a really important part of engineering, and I'm not good at it at all, obviously. And so, I've got to pivot to something else. Well, before my mission, as part of the engineering major, you needed to take some programming classes. So, there was a Java programming class that I took and a computer systems class that included a lot of programming. The computer systems was very low level, so we were doing zeros and ones. And I wrote a program in zeros and ones. All that it did was it would take input from the keyboard, and then spit that back out to you as output. That was what it did. But still, you know, many lines of zeros and ones and just, like, still, I can't believe I did that [laughter]. And then we upgraded from that to Assembly, and what a godsend that was [laughs], how wonderful Assembly was after working in machine code. But then we upgraded from that to C, and that's as far as that class went. And then, yeah, my Java class, we did a bunch of stuff. And I just remember thinking or really struggling to find any practicality to what we were doing. Like, in the Java class, we were implementing the link to list data structure. And I was like, I do not care about this. This does not make any sense. Why should I care? We were doing these transistor diagrams in the computer systems class. And why do I care about that? I do not care about this at all. Like, this is not an interesting thing for me. So, I was convinced computer programming was definitely not what I wanted to do. So, when I'm switching from electrical engineering, I'm thinking, well, what do I do? And my dad convinced me to try accounting. That was his profession. He was a certified public accountant. And so, I said, "Okay, I'll try that." I liked the first class, and so I switched my major to go into the business school for accounting. I needed to take the next accounting class, and I hated that so much. It was just dull and boring. And I'm so glad that I got out of that because [laughs] I can't imagine doing anything like that. WILL: [laughs] KENT: But as part of switching over to business school, I discovered information systems. What's really cool about that is that we were doing Excel spreadsheets and building web pages. But it was all, like, with a practical application of business and, like, solving business problems. And then, I was like, oh, okay, so I can do stuff with computers in a practical setting, and that's what got me really interested. So, I switched, finally, to information systems–made it into that program. And I was still not convinced I wanted to do programming. I just wanted to work with computers. What ended up happening is the same time I got into the information systems program, I got married to my wife, and then I got this part-time job at a company called the More Good Foundation. It's a non-profit organization. And one of my jobs was to rip DVDs and upload those videos to YouTube, and then also download videos from one site and upload those to YouTube as well. And so, I was doing a lot of stuff with YouTube and video stuff. And as part of my information systems class, I was taking another Java class. At that same time, I was like, you know, what I'm doing at work is super boring. Like, can you imagine your job is to put in a [inaudible 13:45] and then click a couple of buttons? And, like, it was so boring and error-prone, too. Like, okay, now I've got to type this out and, you know, I got to make sure it's the same, try and copy-paste as much as I can. And it was not fun. And so, I thought, well, I'm pretty sure there are pieces of this that I could automate. And so, with the knowledge that I was getting in my information systems programming class, that was another Java class, I decided to write a program that automated a bunch of my stuff. And so, I asked my boss, like, "Can I automate this with writing software?" And I'm so glad that they said I could. WILL: [laughs] KENT: Because by the end of it, I had built software that allowed me to do way more than I ever could have before. I ended up uploading thousands of videos to their YouTube channels, which would have taken years to do. And they ended up actually being so happy with me. They had me present to the board of directors when they were asking for more money [laughs] and stuff. And it was really awesome. But still, I was not interested in being a programmer. Programming, to me, was just a means to an end. WILL: Oh, wow. KENT: Yeah, I guess there was just something in me that was like, I am not a programmer. So, anyway, further into the program of information systems, I interned as a business intelligence engineer over that next summer, and I ended up staying on there. And while I was supposed to be a business intelligence engineer, I did learn a lot about SQL, and star schema, and denormalized databases to optimize for read speed and everything. I learned a lot about that. But I just kept finding myself in positions where I would use my programming experience to automate things that were problematic for us in the business realm. And this was all still Java. It was there that I finally realized, you know what? I think I actually do want to be a programmer. I actually really do enjoy this. And I like that it's practical, and it makes sense for me, so… WILL: What year was that? KENT: That would have been 2012. Then I got a new job where my job was actually to be a programmer at a company called Domo, where they do business intelligence, actually. So, it got my foot in the door a little bit since I was a business intelligence engineer already. I got hired on, actually, as a QA engineer doing automated testing, but I never really got into that. And they shifted me over pretty quick into helping with the web app. And that is when I discovered JavaScript, and the whole, like, everything flooded out from there. I was like, wow, I thought I liked programming, but I had no idea how fun it could be. Because I felt like the chains had been broken. I no longer have to write Java. I can write JavaScript, and this was just so much better. WILL: [laughs] KENT: And so, yeah, I was there for a year and a half before I finally graduated. And I took a little break to work at USAA for a summer internship. And when I came back, I had another year and then converted to full-time. And so, yeah, there's my more detail than you were probably looking for, story of how I got into programming [laughs]. WILL: No, I actually love it because like I said, I've used your software, your teachings, all that. And it's amazing to hear the story of how you got there. Because I feel like a lot of times, we just see the end result, but we don't know the struggle that you went through of even trying to find your way through what your purpose was, what you're trying to do. Because, at one point, you said you were trying to do accounting, then you were trying to do something else. So, it's amazing to see, like, when it clicked for you when you got into JavaScript, so that's amazing. KENT: Yeah, it is kind of funny to think, like, some people have the story of, like, I knew I wanted to be a programmer from the very beginning, and it's just kind of funny for me to think back and, like, I was pretty certain I didn't want to be a programmer. WILL: [laughs] KENT: Like, not only did I, like, lots of people will say, "I never really thought about it, and then I saw it, and it was great." But I had thought about it. And I saw it, and I thought it was awful [laughter]. And so, yeah, I'm really glad that it worked out the way it did, though, because programming has just been a really fun thing. Like, I feel so blessed to be doing something that I actually enjoy doing. Like so many of our ancestors, they would go to work because they cared about their family and they just wanted to feed their family. I'm so grateful to them for doing that. I am so lucky that I get to go to work to take care of my family, but also, I just love doing it. WILL: Yeah, I feel the same way, so yeah, totally agree. After you found out about JavaScript, when did you figure out that you want to teach JavaScript? What was that transition like? KENT: I've been teaching for my whole life. It's ingrained in my religion. Even as a kid, you know, I'd prepare a talk, a five-minute talk, and stand up in front of 30 of my peers. And even when you're an early teenager, you get into speaking in front of the entire congregation. It took a while before I got good enough at something, enough hubris to think that people would care about what I have to say -- WILL: [laughs] KENT: Outside of my religion where, like, they're sitting there, and I've been asked to speak, and so they're going to listen to me. And so, when I started getting pretty good at programming, I decided, hey, I want to teach this stuff that I'm learning. And so, when I was still at school and working at Domo, the business intelligence company, one of our co-workers, Dave Geddes, he put together a workshop to teach AngularJS because we were migrating from Backbone to Angular. And I asked him if I could use his workshop material to teach my classmates. This was, like, soon after ng-conf, the first ng-conf, which my co-workers at Domo actually put on. So, I wasn't involved in the organization, but I was very much present when it was being organized. I attended there and developed a relationship with Firebase with the people there. I was actually...they had a developer evangelist program, which they called Torchbearers or something. And actually, that was my idea to call them Torchbearers. I think they wanted to call us torches, and I'm like, that just doesn't make sense. WILL: [laughs] KENT: I developed a relationship with them. And I asked them, "Hey, I want to teach my classmates AngularJS. Would you be interested in sponsoring some pizza and stuff?" And they said, "Yeah, we'll send you stickers, and hot sauce, and [laughs] a bunch of..." Like, they sent us, like, headphones [laughs] and stuff. So, I was like, sweet. I taught my classmates AngularJS in a workshop, brought a bunch of pizza, and it was, you know, just an extracurricular thing. And actually, the recording is still on my YouTube channel, so if you want to go look at one of my early YouTube videos. I was very into publishing video online. So, if you are diligent, you'll be able to find some of my very early [laughter] videos from my teenage years. But anyway, so, yes, I've been teaching since the very beginning. As soon as I graduated from college, I started speaking at meetups. I'd never been to a meetup before, and I just saw, oh, they want a speaker. I can talk about something. WILL: Wow. KENT: And not realizing that, like, meetups are literally always looking for speakers. This wasn't some special occasion. WILL: [laughs] KENT: And one of the meetups I spoke at was recorded and put on YouTube. And the guy who started Egghead io, John Lindquist, he is local here in Utah. And he saw that I spoke at that meetup, but he wasn't able to attend. So, he watched the recording, and he thought it was pretty good. He thought I would do a good job turning that into a video course. And that first video course paid my mortgage. WILL: Wow. KENT: And I was blown away. This thing that I had been doing just kind of for fun speaking at meetups, and I realized, oh, I can actually, like, make some legit good money out of this. From there, I just started making more courses on the side after I put the kids to bed. My wife is like, "Hey, I love you, but I want you to stay away for now because I've just been with these tiny babies all day. WILL: [laughs] KENT: And I just need some alone time." WILL: Yes. KENT: And so, I was like, okay. WILL: [laughs] KENT: I'll just go and work on some courses. And so, I spent a lot of time for the next couple of years doing course material on the side. I reached out to Frontend Masters and just told them, "Hey, I've been doing courses for Egghead." I actually met Marc Grabanski at a conference a couple of years before. And so, we established a little bit of relationship. And I just said, "Hey, I want to come and teach there." So, I taught at Frontend Masters. I started putting on my own workshops at conferences. In fact, just a few months after graduating, I got accepted to speak at a conference. And only after I was accepted did I realize it was in Sweden [laughter]. I didn't think to look where in the world this conference was. So, that was my first international trip, actually, and I ended up speaking there. I gave, actually, two talks. One of them was a three-hour talk. WILL: Whoa. KENT: Which was, yeah, that was wild. WILL: [laughs] KENT: And then, yeah, I gave a two-day workshop for them. And then, I flew straight from there to Amsterdam to give another talk and also do a live in-person podcast, which I'd been running called ngAir, an Angular podcast. It just kept on building from there until finally, I created testingjavascript.com. And that was when I realized, oh, okay, so this isn't just a thing I can use to pay my mortgage, and that's nice. This is, like, a thing I can do full-time. Because I made more with Testing JavaScript than I made from my PayPal salary. WILL: Oh wow. KENT: I was like, oh, I don't need both of these things. I would rather work half as much one full-time job; that's what I want, one full-time job and make enough to take care of my family. And I prefer teaching. So, that's when I left PayPal was when I released Testing JavaScript. WILL: Wow. So, for me, I think so many times the imposter syndrome comes up whenever I want to teach or do things at the level you're saying you're doing. Because I love teaching. I love mentoring. I remember when I came into development, it was hard. I had to find the right person to help me mentor. So now, I almost made a vow to myself that if someone wants to learn and they're willing to put in the energy, I'm going to sit down however long it takes to help them because I remember how hard it was for me whenever I was doing it. So, you said in 2014, you were only a couple years doing development. How did you overcome impostor syndrome to stand in front of people, teach, go around the world, and give talks and podcasts? Like, how did you do that portion? KENT: Part of it is a certain level of hubris like I said. Like, you just have to be willing to believe that somebody's going to care. You know, the other part of it is, it's a secret to getting really, really good at something. They sometimes will say, like, those who can't do teach. That's total baloney because it requires a lot of being able to do to get you in a position where you can teach effectively. But the process of teaching makes you better at the process of doing as well. It's how you solidify your experience as a whatever. So, if you're a cook, you're really good at that; you will get better by teaching other people how to cook. There's an element of selfishness in what I do. I just want to get really, really good at this, and so I'm going to teach people so that I can. So yeah, I think there's got to be also, like, a little bit of thick skin, too, because people are going to maybe not like what you have to share or think that you're posing or whatever. Learn how to let that slide off you a little bit. But another thing is, like, as far as that's concerned, just being really honest about what your skill set is. So, if somebody asks me a question about GraphQL, I'm going to tell them, "Well, I did use GraphQL at PayPal, but I was pretty limited. And so, I don't have a lot of experience with that," and then I'll answer their question. And so, like, communicating your limitations of knowledge effectively and being okay being judged by people because they're going to judge you. It just is the way it is. So, you just have to learn how to cope well with that. There are definitely some times where I felt like I was in over my head on some subjects or I was involved in a conversation I had no business being there. I actually felt that a lot when I was sent as PayPal's delegate to the TC39 meetings. Wow, what am I doing here? I've only been in the industry for, like, two or three years at [laughter] that point. It takes a certain level of confidence in your own abilities. But also, like, being realistic about your inexperience as well, I think, is important too. WILL: Yeah, I know that you had a lot of success, and I want to cover that next. But were there any failures when you were doing those teaching moments? KENT: Years ago, Babel was still a new thing that everybody was using to compile their JavaScript with new syntax features down to JavaScript that the browser could run. There was ES Modules that was introduced, and lots of us were doing global window object stuff. And then we moved to, like, defining your dependencies with r.js or RequireJS. And then, there was CommonJS, and Universal Module Definition, and that sort of thing. So, ECMAScript modules were very exciting. Like, people were really interested in that. And so, Babel added support to it. It would compile from the module syntax down to whatever you wanted: CommonJS or...well, I'm pretty sure it could compile to RequireJS, but I compiled it to CommonJS. And so, there was a...yeah, I would say it's a bug in Babel at that time, where it would allow you to write your ES modules in a way that was not actually spec-compliant. It was incorrect. So, I would say export default some object, and then in another module, I would say import. And then, I'd select properties off of the object that I exported, that default I exported. That was allowed by Babel, but it is superduper, not how ECMAScript modules work. Well, the problem is that I taught, like, a ton of people how to use ECMAScript modules this way. And when I realized that I was mistaken, it was just, like, a knife to the heart because I was, like, I taught so many people this wrong thing. And so, I wrote a blog post about it. I gave a big, long talk titled “More Than You Want to Know About ECMAScript Modules,” where I talk about that with many other things as well. And so, yeah, just trying to do my part to make up for the mistake that I made. So yes, I definitely have had mistakes like that. There's also, like, the aspect that technology moves at a rapid pace. And so, I have old things that I would show people how to do, which they still work just as well as they worked back then. But I wouldn't recommend doing it that way because we have better ways now. For some people, the old way to do it is the only way they can do it based on the constraints they have and the tools that they're using and stuff. And so, it's not, like, it's not valuable at all. But it is a struggle to make sure that people understand that, like, this is the way that you do it if you have to do it this way, but, like, we've got better ways. WILL: I'm glad you shared that because it helps. And I love how you say it: when I make a mistake, I own up to it and let everyone know, "Hey, I made a mistake. Let's correct it and move on." So, I really like that. KENT: Yeah, 100%. MID-ROLL AD: Are your engineers spending too much time on DevOps and maintenance issues when you need them on new features? We know maintaining your own servers can be costly and that it's easy for spending creep to sneak in when your team isn't looking. By delegating server management, maintenance, and security to thoughtbot and our network of service partners, you can get 24x7 support from our team of experts, all for less than the cost of one in-house engineer. Save time and money with our DevOps and Maintenance service. Find out more at: tbot.io/devops. WILL: I want to go back to what you were saying. When you left PayPal, you released Testing JavaScript. How did you come up with the idea to write a Testing JavaScript course? And, two, how long did it take to take off and be successful? KENT: That was a pretty special thing, honestly. In 2018, I had put together a bunch of workshops related to testing. There was this conference called Assert(js) that invited me to come, taught them. In the year prior, I went to Midwest JS and taught how to test React. I had this material about testing. I'd gotten into testing just because of open-source stuff. I didn't want to have to manually go through all my stuff again every time I wanted to check for breakages and stuff, so that got me into testing. And whatever I'm into is what I'm going to teach. So, I started teaching that testing. And then my friend, Ryan Florence, put together...he separated from Michael Jackson with React Training, and built his own thing called Workshop.me. He asked me to join up with him. And he would, like, put together these workshops for me, and I would just...my job was just to show up and teach. And so, I did that. I have a picture, actually, in this blog post, The 2010s Decade in Review, of me in front of 60 people at a two-day workshop at Trulia in San Francisco. WILL: Oh, wow. KENT: And this is where I was teaching my testing workshop. Well, what's interesting about that photo is that two weeks before that, I had gotten really frustrated with the tool that everybody uses or used at the time for testing React, and that was Enzyme. And so I was preparing this workshop or working on it. I had already delivered it a number of times, but I was working on it, improving it, as I always do [laughs] when I'm preparing. WILL: [laughs] KENT: I can never give the same workshop twice, I guess. And I was just so frustrated that Enzyme was so difficult to work with. And, like, I was going to prepare this document that said, "Here are all the things you should never do with Enzyme. Like, Enzyme encourages you to do these things; you should not do these things. And let me explain why." And I just hated that I needed a document like that. And so, I tweeted, "I'm seriously starting to think that I should make my own very small testing lib and drop Enzyme entirely. Most of Enzyme's features are not at all useful and many damaging to my test bases. I'd rather have something smaller that encourages better practices." And so, I tweeted that March 15th, 2018. I did that. I did exactly that. What I often do in my workshops is I try to build the abstraction that we're going to use so that you can use it better. So, I was, like, building Enzyme, and I realized the jump between what I had built, the little utilities that I had built as part of the workshop, from that to Enzyme was just a huge leap. And so, I thought, you know what? These utilities that I have built to teach Enzyme are actually really good. What if I just turned that into a testing utility? And that became Testing Library, which, fast forward to today, is the number one testing library for React. And it's recommended for testing React, and Vue, and Angular. The ideas that are in Testing Library got adopted by Playwright. If you're writing tests for anything in the browser, you are very likely using something that was either originally developed by me or inspired by the work that I did. And it all came from that testing workshop that I was working on. So, with that, I had not only that testing workshop; I had a number of other workshops around testing. And so I approached Joel Hooks from Egghead.io. I say, "Hey, I'm getting ready to record a bunch of Egghead courses. I've got, like, six or seven courses I want to do." And he'd seen my work before, you know, I was a very productive course creator. And he said, "Hey, how about we, you know, we've been thinking about doing this special thing. How about we make a website just dedicated to your courses?" And I said, "That sounds great." I was a little bit apprehensive because I knew that putting stuff on Egghead meant that I had, like, a built-in audience and everything that was on Egghead, so this would be really the first time of me just branching out with video material on my own. Because, otherwise, if it wasn't Egghead, it was Frontend Masters, and there was the built-in audience there. But yeah, we decided to go for it. And we released it in, I think, November. And it was that first week...which is always when you make the most is during the launch period. But that launch week, I made more than my PayPal salary for the entire year. And so, that was when I realized, oh, yeah, okay, let's go full-time on this because I don't need two PayPal salaries. I just need one. And then I can spend more time with my family and stuff. And especially as the kids are getting older, they're staying up later, and I want to hang out with them instead of with my computer at night [laughter], and so... WILL: I love how you explain that because I came in around 2018, 2019. And I remember Enzyme, and it was so confusing, so hard to work with, especially for, you know, a junior dev that's just trying to figure it out. And I remember Testing JavaScript and then using that library, and it was just so much easier to, like, grab whatever you needed to grab. Those utils made the biggest difference, and still today, they make a huge difference. So yes, I just resonate with what you're saying. That's amazing. KENT: Aw, thank you so much. WILL: Yeah. You did Testing JavaScript. And then what was your next course that you did? KENT: I quit PayPal, go full-time teaching. That first year, I actually did an update to Testing JavaScript. There were a couple of changes in Testing Library and other things that I needed to update it for. And then I started working on Epic React. So, while I was doing all this testing stuff, I was also very into React, creating a bunch of workshops around that. I was invited to speak all over the world to talk about React. And I had a couple of workshops already for React. So, I was invited to give workshops at these conferences about React. And so, I thought, you know, let's do this again, and we'll do it with React this time. The other thing was, I'd never really planned on being the testing guy. It just kind of happened, and I actually didn't really like it either. I wanted to be more broad than just testing. So, that kind of motivated me to say, hey, let's do something with React to be a little bit more broad. Yeah, so I worked on putting those workshops together and delivered them remotely. And then, yeah, COVID hit, and just really messed everything up [laughs] really bad. So, I had everything done on my end for Epic React by March of 2020, which is, like, immediately after COVID got started, in the U.S. at least. And so, yeah, then we actually didn't end up releasing Epic React until October that year, which, honestly [laughs], was a little bit frustrating for me because I was like, "Hey, guys, I have recorded all the videos and everything. Can we get this released?" But, like, that just was a really rough year for everybody. But yeah, so Egghead got the site put together. I did a bunch of interviews and stuff. And then we launched in October of 2020. That was way bigger than Testing JavaScript because Testing JavaScript was still very informed by my experience as an Egghead instructor, which, typically, the Egghead courses are, like, a video where watch me do this thing, and then you'll learn something and go apply it to your own stuff. And that's kind of what Testing JavaScript was built as. But as part of the update of Testing JavaScript in 2019, I added another workshop module called Testing Node Applications. And in that one, I decided, hey, typically, I would have a workshop version of my material and a course version. The workshop version had like instructions and exercises. And the course version was no instructions or anything. It was just, like, watch these videos. And it was just me doing the exercises. And with the update of Testing JavaScript, I added that Testing Node workshop, and I said, hey, what if we just, like, embrace the fact that these are exercises, and it's just, like, me recording the workshop? How I would deliver the workshop? And so, I tested that out, and that went really well. And so, I doubled down on that with Epic React. And I said, okay, now, this isn't just, like, watch these videos. This is a do the exercise and then watch me do the exercise. So, Epic React was not only a lot more material but the format of the material was more geared for retention and true practice and learning. And so, Epic React ended up doing much better than Testing JavaScript, and even still, is still doing a remarkable job as far as course material is concerned. And, like, so many people are getting a lot of really great knowledge from Epic React. So yeah, very gratifying to have that. WILL: Once again, I've used Epic React. It's taught me so many...stretched me. And I do like the format, so yes, I totally agree with that, yeah. The next thing, Remix, correct? KENT: Yeah. So, how I got into Remix, around the same time we finished recording Epic React videos, I was doing some other stuff kind of to keep content going and stuff while we were waiting to launch Epic React. And around that same time, my friend Ryan Florence and Michael Jackson––they were doing the React training thing. And so, we were technically competitors. Like I said, Ryan and I kind of joined forces temporarily for his Workshop Me thing, but that didn't end up working out very well. And Michael really wanted Ryan back, and so they got back together. And their React training business went way better than it had before. They were hiring people and all sorts of stuff. And then, a training business that focuses on in-person training just doesn't do very well when COVID comes around. And so, they ended up having to lay off everybody and tried to figure out, okay, now what are we going to do? Our income has gone overnight. This is a bit of a simplification. But they decided to build software and get paid for it like one does. So, they started building Remix. Ryan, actually, around that time, moved back to Utah. He and I would hang out sometimes, and he would share what he was working on with Michael. We would do, like, Zoom calls and stuff, too. I just got really excited about what they were working on. I could see the foundation was really solid, and I thought it was awesome. But I was still working on Epic React. I end up launching Epic React. He launches Remix the very next month as a developer preview thing. Yeah, it definitely...it looked a lot like current Remix in some ways but very, very different in lots of others. But I was super hooked on that. And so, I paid for the developer preview and started developing my website with it. And around the next year in August, I was getting close to finishing my website. My website is, like, pretty legit. If you haven't gone to kentcdodds.com. Yet, it is cooler than you think it is. There's a lot that goes into that website. So, I had a team help me with the product planning and getting illustrations and had somebody help me implement the designs and all that stuff. It was a pretty big project. And then, by August of 2021, Ryan and I were talking, and I said, "Hey, listen, I want to update Epic React to use Remix because I just think that is the best way to build React applications. But I have this little problem where Remix is a paid framework. That's just going to really reduce the number of people who are interested in learning what I have to teach. And on top of that, like, it just makes it difficult for people to test things out." And so, he, around that time, was like, "Hey, just hold off a little bit. We've got some announcements." And so, I think it was September when they announced that they'd raised VC money and they were going to make Remix open source. That was when Ryan said, "Hey, listen, Kent, I think that it's awesome you want to update Epic React to use Remix. But the problem is that Remix isn't even 1.0 yet. The community is super small. It needs a lot of help. If you release a course on Remix right now, then you're not going to get any attention because, like, nobody even knows what it is." So, part of me is like, yeah, that's true. But also, the other part of me is like, how do people find out what it is [laughs] unless there's, like, material about it? But he was right. And he said, "Listen, we've got a bunch of VC money. I've always wanted to work with you. How about we just hire you? And you can be a full-time teacher about Remix. But you don't have to charge anything. You just, like, make a bunch of stuff for free about Remix." I said, "That sounds great. But, you know, to make that worth my while because I'm really happy with what I'm doing with this teaching thing, like, I'm going to need a lot of Remix." And so, Michael Jackson was like, "How about we just make you a co-founder, and we give you a lot of Remix?" And I said, "Okay, let's do this." And so I jumped on board with them as a year-delayed co-founder. I guess that's pretty common. But, like, that felt kind of weird to me [laughs] to be called a co-founder. But yeah, so I joined up with them. I worked on documentation a little bit, mostly community building. I ran Remix Conf. Shopify was interested in what we were doing. And we were interested in what Shopify was doing because, at the time, they were working on Hydrogen, which was one of the early adopters of React Server Components. And, of course, everybody was interested in whether Remix was going to be adding support for server components. And Ryan put together a couple of experiments and found out that server components were nowhere near ready. And we could do better than server components could as of, you know, the time that he wrote the blog posts, like, two years ago. So, Hydrogen was working with server components. And I put us in touch with the Hydrogen team—I think it was me—to, like, talk with the Hydrogen team about, like, "Hey, how about instead of spending all this time building your own framework, you just build on top of Remix then you can, you know, make your Shopify starter projects just, like, a really thin layer on top of Remix and people will love it? And this is very important to us because we need to get users, especially really big and high profile users, so people will take us seriously." And so, we have this meeting. They fly a bunch of their people out to Salt Lake. They're asking us questions. We're asking them questions and saying, "Hey, listen, this is why server components are just not going to work out for you." Well, apparently, they didn't listen to us. It felt like they were just like, "No, we're highly invested in this. We've already sunk all this cost into this, but we're going to keep going." And they did end up shipping Hydrogen version 1 on top of server components, which I just thought was a big mistake. And it wasn't too long after that they came back and said, "Hey, we're kind of interested in having you guys join Shopify." So, right after Remix Conf, I go up into Michael's room at the hotel with Ryan. And they say, "Hey, listen, Kent, we're talking with Shopify about selling Remix and joining Shopify," and kind of bounced back and forth on whether we wanted to do it. All of us were just not sure. Because when I joined Remix, I was thinking, okay, we're going to build something, and it's going to be huge. This is going to be bigger than Vercel, like multibillion-dollar company. So, I really kind of struggled with thinking, hey, we're selling out. Like, we're just getting started here. So, Ryan and I ended up at RenderATL in Atlanta at that conference. We were both speaking there. And Ryan didn't fill out the right form. So, he actually didn't have a hotel room [laughs], and so he ended up staying in my room. I intentionally always get a double bedroom just in case somebody needs to stay with me because somebody did that for me once, and I just...it was really nice of them. So, I've always done that since. And so, I said, "Yeah, Ryan, you can stay with me." And so, we spent just a ton of time together. And this was all while we were trying to decide what to do with Shopify. And we had a lot of conversations about, like, what do we want for Remix in the future? And it was there that I realized, oh if I want to take this to, like, multi-billion dollar valuation, I've got to do things that I am not at all interested in doing. Like, you've got to build a business that is worth that much money and do business-related things. On top of all of that, to get any money out of it...because I just had a percentage of the company, not actually any money. There was no stock. So, the only way you can get money out of a situation like that is if you have a liquidation event like an IPO, which sounds, like, awful—I [laughs] would hate to go through an IP0—or you have to be bought. And if you're worth $2 billion, or 3, or whatever, who can buy you? There's almost nobody who can buy you at that valuation. Do you really want to outprice anybody that could possibly buy you? And then, on top of that, to get there, that's, like, a decade worth of your life of working really superduper hard to get to that point, and there's no guarantee. Ryan would always say a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. He was saying Shopify is a bird in the hand, and we do not know what the future holds. And so, we were all finally convinced that, yeah, we want to sell, and so we decided, yeah, let's sell. And as the sale date grew closer, I was getting excited because I was like, oh, I can be back on the TC39 because Shopify is, like, I don't know if they're actually sending delegates to the TC39, but I'm sure that they would be interested if I ask them to, like, "Hey, let's be involved in the evolution of JavaScript." And I know they're on the Web Working Group. Like, they're on a bunch of different committees and stuff. And I just thought it'd be really cool to get involved in the web platform again. And then, on top of that, I just thought, you know what? I'll just spend all my time teaching Shopify developers how to use Remix. That sounds like a lot of fun. As things drew closer, I got more and more uneasy about that. And I thought, you know, I could probably do just as well for myself by going full-time teacher again. I've done this thing before. I just really like being a teacher and, like, having total control over everything that I do. And if I work at Shopify, they're going to tell me, "Hey, you need to, like, do this, and that, and the other." And I don't know if I want to go back to that. And so, I decided, this is awesome. Super, super good job, folks. I think I've done everything for you that you need me to do. I'm going to bail out. And so, yeah, Shopify wasn't super jazzed about that. But the deal went through anyway. And that's how I ended my time at Shopify. WILL: I love it. It's lining up perfectly because you say you left Shopify to go back doing more teaching. And then you released another course; that's Epic Web, correct? KENT: Right. That was the reason I left Shopify or I didn't join up with Shopify is because I wanted to work on Epic Web. In this 2010s blog post, one of the last things that I mention...toward the bottom, there's a section, KCD EDU, which is basically, like, I wanted to help someone go from zero to my level as an engineer in a single place where I teach just all of the things that I can teach to get somebody there. And so I wanted to call it KCD EDU, but I guess you have to be an accredited university to get that domain or something. But that was the idea. Erin Fox, back in 2020 she said, "I'm expecting you to announce your online Kent C. Dodds engineering bootcamp." And I replied, "I'm planning on doing this, no joke." So, I've been wanting to do this for a really long time. And so, leaving Remix was like, yeah, this is what I'm going to go do. I'm going to go build KCD EDU. And I was talking with Ryan at some point about, like, what I was planning on doing in the future. And something he said or something I said in that conversation made me realize, oh, shoot, I want to build Epic Web Dev. So, I've got Epic React. I don't want Epic Remix. I want people to, like, be web developers. Remix is just, like, an implementation detail. And so, I went and I was relieved to find that the domain was still available: epicweb.dev, and so I bought that. And so, I was always planning on, like, even while I was at Remix, eventually, I would leave Remix and go build Epic Web Dev. So, that's what I did. Starting in August, I decided, okay, how about this: I will build a legit real-world web application, and then I will use that to teach people how to build legit real-world web applications from start to finish. If it's included as, like, knowledge you would need to build this web app, then that's knowledge you need to be able to build a full-stack application. That was the idea. So, I started live streaming in, like, August or September, and I would live stream almost everyday development of this web app. So, people can go and watch those on my YouTube channel. I would livestream for, like, sometimes six hours at a time with breaks every 45 minutes. So, I'd just put it on a break slide, go for a quick walk, or take a drink, whatever, and then I would come back. And I would just, like, so much development and live streaming for a long time. Once I got, like, in a pretty good place with that, the app I was building was called Rocket Rental. It's like Airbnb for rocket ships. So, you could rent, like, your own rocket ship to other people to fly. So, it had to be, like, realistic enough that, like, you could relate it to whatever you were building but not realistic enough that people would actually think it was a real product [laughs]. I worked with Egghead again. They actually have a sister company now called Skill Recordings that's responsible for these types of products. And so, I was working with Skill Recordings on, like, they would get me designs. And then I would, like, work with other people to help implement some of those designs. And then, I started working on turning this stuff into workshops. And with Epic React, we have this workshop app that you run locally so that you can work in your own editor, in your own environment, and with your own editor plugins and all that stuff. I want you to practice the way that you're going to actually exercise that practice when you're done––when you're working at work. And so we have this workshop app with Epic React. Well, that was built with Create React app, very limited on what you could do. And so, I started working on a new workshop app that I just called KCD Shop, that was built with Remix. And so, now we've got a bunch of server-side stuff we can do. And this server side is running on your machine. And so, so much stuff that I can do with this thing. One of the big challenges with Epic React was that the video you watch is on epicreact.dev, but the exercises you run are on localhost. And so, you have to keep those things in sync. You'd see, okay, I'm in exercise one on the videos. Let me go find exercise one in the app and then find the file exercise one. So, you've got, like, three different things you've got to keep in sync. And so, with the workshop app for Epic Web, I said, how about we make it so that we can embed the video into the app? And so, you just have localhost running, and you see the video right above the instructions for the exercise. And so, you watch the video that kind of introduces the problem that you're going to be doing, and then you read the instructions. And then we can also make it so that we have links you can click or buttons you can click in the app that will open your editor exactly where you're supposed to go. So you don't have to keep anything in sync. You go to the app, and you watch the video. You read the instructions. You click this button. It opens your editor. And so, that's exactly what I did. And it's an amazing experience. It is phenomenal, not just for the workshop learners but for me, as a workshop developer, like, creating the workshop––it's just been phenomenal. Because, like, we also have this diff view where you can see the difference between your work in progress and the solution. So, if you get stuck, then it's very easy to see where you went wrong. It also means that we can build even very large applications as part of our workshop and our exercise where there are dozens or hundreds of files. And you don't have to worry about finding them because it'll tell you exactly which ones you need to be working in, so all sorts of really, really cool things. So, this workshop app––actually, took a lot of time and effort to build. But now that it's done, like, people are going through it now, and they're just loving it. So, I built the workshop app, I put the first workshop of Rocket Rental into this workshop app, and I delivered it. And I found out very quickly that a full application with all the bells and whistles you'd expect, like, tons of different routes and stuff, was just too much. Even with the workshop app, it was just really pretty difficult for people to gain enough context around what they were building to be effective. So, I was concerned about that. But then, around the same time, I started realizing that I had a marketing problem. And that is that with Testing JavaScript, people know that they're customers because they're like, I'm a JavaScript developer, and I know how to test––boom. I'm a Testing JavaScript customer. With Epic React, I join this company; they're using React; I need to know React, boom. I'm a customer of Epic React. But with something like Epic Web, it's just so broad that, like, yeah, I am a web developer. I just don't know if I'm a customer to Epic Web. Like, is Epic Web for only really advanced people, or is it only for really beginner people? Or is it only for people who are using this set of tools or... Like, it's just a very difficult thing to, like, identify with. And so I wanted to de-emphasize the fact that we used Remix because the fact is that you can walk away from this material and work in a Next.js app or a SvelteKit app and still use so much of the knowledge that you gained in that environment. So, I didn't want to focus on the fact that we're using any particular set of tools because the tools themselves I select them, not only because I think that they are really great tools but also because the knowledge you gain from these tools is very transferable. And I'm going to teach it in a way that's very transferable. That was the plan. But I still had this issue, like, I need people to be able to identify themselves as customers of this thing. So, what I decided to do through some, like, hints and inspiration from other people was how about I turn Rocket Rental into a much simpler app and make that a project starter? And while I was at Remix, actually, I directed the creation of this feature called Remix Stacks. It's basically the CLI allows you to create a Remix app based on a template. I said I can make a Remix Stack out of this, and I called it the Epic Stack. And so, just took all of the concepts that came from Rocket Rental; applied it to a much simpler app. It's just a note-taking app, but it has, like, all of the features that you would need to build in a typical application. So, it's got a database. It's got deployment, GitHub integration. So, you have GitHub Actions to run tests and stuff. It has the tests. It has authentication already implemented, and even two-factor auth, and third-party auth, and file upload, and, like, just tons and tons of stuff built in. And so, people can start a new project and ship that and have a lot of success, like, skip all the basic stuff. So, I presented that at Remix Conf. I wasn't working at Remix anymore, but they asked me to run Remix Conf again, so I did. And I told them, "If I'm running it this year, I'm going to select myself to speak." And I spoke and introduced the Epic Stack there. And then that was when I started to create the workshops based on the Epic Stack. And so, now it was no longer we're going to have workshops to build Rocket Rental; it was we're going to have workshops to build the Epic Stack, with the idea being that if you build the thing, you are able to use it better, like, still following the same pattern I did with Testing JavaScript where we build a framework first. Like, before you start using Jest, we're building Jest and same with Testing Library. We do the same thing with React. Before we bring in React, I teach you how to create DOM nodes yourself and render those to the page and all of that. And so, here with Epic Web, I'm going to teach you how to build the framework that you can use to build applications. So, that is what Epic Web is, it's effectively we're building the Epic Stack. In the process, you learn all about really basic things, like, how do you get styles onto the page all the way to really complex things like, how do you validate a user's email? Or how do you implement two-factor auth? Or how do you create a test database? So, you don't have to mock out the database, but you can still run your test in isolation. Around this time was when my wife and I were trying to become pregnant. And we got the news that we were expecting, and we were super excited. And so, I'm thinking, okay, I've got to ship this thing before the baby comes. Because who knows what happens after this baby comes? So, I am talking with Skill Recordings. I'm saying, "We've got to get this done by October." I think it was May. And so, I was thinking like, okay, I've probably got, like, maybe eight days worth of workshops here. And so, kind of outlined all of the workshops. Like, I know what needs to be included. I know what the end looks like because I've got the Epic Stack. The end is the Epic Stack. The beginning is, like, a brand new create Remix app creation right there. So, I know what the start and the end looks like. I kind of can figure out how much time I need to teach all of that. And I said, "Let's do eight days." And so, we got that scheduled and started selling tickets. And we sold out 30 tickets in just a couple of days, and that's what we originally planned for. I'm like, well, gosh, I can handle 80 people in a workshop. I've done that before, but that's about as far as I go. I don't really like going that much. In fact, online, especially, I only like to go up to, like, 40. But we said, "Hey, let's knock this out of the park." So, we doubled it, and we sold another 30 seats. And so, it was sold out before even the early bird sale was over. So, that was pretty encouraging. The problem was that I hadn't actually developed this material. I'd already given one workshop about testing with Rocket Rental, and I'd given one workshop about the fundamentals with Rocket Rental. But I hadn't done anything of the authentication or, the forms, or data modeling. Also, like, Epic Notes app is different from Rocket Rental. So, I got to rebuild those workshops. Like, the first workshop was going to start in, like, two weeks, maybe three weeks. And so, I'm working on these workshops. And I'm like, I've finished the first workshop, which was going to be a two-day workshop, and so I get that done. And so, that next week, I'm getting close to finished on the forms workshop, and then I start the workshops. And that was when I started to realize, oh, shoot, I am in huge trouble because I have to not only deliver two workshops a week, so that's two days a week that I'm not able to work on the workshops, really. And then also develop the material as I go, which I don't normally do this at all because I just don't like stressing myself out so much. But, like, I'd had this timeline put together, and I'm like, I need to ship this by October. For about five weeks, I worked 80 to 100 hours a week, maybe more, in a row to get those workshops created [laughs]. And I do not recommend this, and I will never do it again. I can tell you this now. I didn't tell anybody at the time because I was worried that people would think, well, geez, is that the type of product you create, like, you're just rushing through this stuff? But I can tell you this safely now because the results speak for themselves. Like, these people loved this stuff. They ate it up. It was so good. I won't do this again. It's not something that I typically do. But it worked. And, like, I put in a crazy amount of work to make this work. People loved it. And yeah, I'm really, really happy with that. The next step, though, so it was eight days' worth of workshops in four weeks. And I realized, as I almost always realize when I'm presenting workshops, that, like, oh my gosh, I have way more material than I have time for. So, by

The U.S. is in the midst of an ongoing prescription drug shortage with more and more medication in short supply for longer stretches of time. Those medications include chemotherapy drugs, antibiotics, ADHD medication and more. It's making treatment decisions difficult for doctors and patients. Laura Barrón-López discussed the shortages with Erin Fox. PBS NewsHour is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

The U.S. is in the midst of an ongoing prescription drug shortage with more and more medication in short supply for longer stretches of time. Those medications include chemotherapy drugs, antibiotics, ADHD medication and more. It's making treatment decisions difficult for doctors and patients. Laura Barrón-López discussed the shortages with Erin Fox. PBS NewsHour is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

Adderall shortage leaves some waiting months for refills. We are now seven months into the Adderall shortage, and those prescribed the stimulant to treat ADHD often go from pharmacy to pharmacy to find the drug, or go without it for weeks. Back on Oct. 12, 2022, the FDA announced it would put Adderall on its shortage website. According to the agency, the primary blame was for a massive increase in demand for the drug during the pandemic. Erin Fox, Assistant Chief Pharmacy Officer with University of Utah Health joins the show to explain where things are at with the shortage and advice to those experiencing it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

9:05 - Another snow day in Utah!  Here's our D2 weather agenda - right to traffic and weather -- and updates at the start of each of our segments today.  Live with the national weather service when we spotted this headline on CNN: it's not just us, 15 million American Under winter weather alerts across 12 states, what's happening in states surrounding Utah?D2 being the show with a check in on the weather and roads. KSL Meteorologist Matt Johnson joins the show as well as Andy Farnsworth from the KSL Traffic Center.    9:20 - 9:35 - NPR: Savings at the gas pump are eaten up at the supermarket, as inflation stays high Dave and Debbie check in with Sam Webber, Forecaster and Meteorologist with the National Weather Service about what is happening across the country and what to expect in Utah.        Then D2 moves into a discussion surrounding how Inflation numbers just released year over year 7.1 increase. Reports say we're trading falling prices at the pump for increased prices at the grocery store. D2 takes listener calls as listeners share input on their commute.    9:50 - Live reports from Utah Roads  SGT. Cameron Roden with Utah Highway Patrol, joins the show to discuss what is happening out on the roads. D2 takes listener calls to learn about what is happening on the commute.    10:05 - 10:20 - Southern Utah is getting a waterpark It's got to be one of the most head scratching projects you can imagine during a mega-drought. Southern Utah is getting a $50M waterpark in Hurricane, Utah. Nanette Billings, Hurricane Mayor joins the show to discuss how this is justified.10:35 - Inflation leading more people to find roommates  PR on the heels of new inflation numbers showing a 7.1% jump YoY... People are getting roommates and, in turn, easing housing inflation.  D2 goes through the things you need to do before you decide to room with a perfect stranger to save money. Greg Skordas, KSL Legal Analyst joins the show to discuss the benefits of signing separate leases when you decide to live with someone.     10:50 - Governor Cox proposes tuition freeze DNEWS: Cox proposes tuition freeze for state-supported colleges, universities. And infuse more state funding into schools to offset the tuition freeze. D2 discusses the tuition freeze.  11:05 - Will the government funding deadline get extended? With a little less than two weeks away from Christmas, the Senate is looking at a stop-gap bill that will delay the Friday deadline for government funding. This bill would extend the deadline by a week, from December 16 to December 23. What does this mean for Congress? Boyd Matheson, Host of Inside Sources, joins the show to discuss what we should be looking out for.   11:20 - Does teamwork increase employee happiness? “Happy employees are productive employees.” Forbes published the results from one study that revealed happy employees are as much as 20% more productive in the workplace than unhappy employees. What role does teamwork play in this? Utah State University Professor Scott Hammond joins the show to talk about his new book, “The Management Minute: Small Steps to Big Learning,” and why teamwork is so important in the workplace.   11:35 - Concerns over the prescription drug shortage There is a shortage of several high-profile prescription drugs, and it's causing patients and parents to have to hunt for them. What should you do if your pharmacy doesn't have what you need? Erin Fox, Senior Pharmacy Director at the University of Utah Health, joins the show to share her expertise in drug shortages and talk about what's going on with the medication availability.   11:50 - Ski Utah Snow Report It's been snowing a lot here in Utah the past few weeks, which is good news for the ski resorts. According to Ski Utah's snow report, Alta and Snowbird got the most snow over the past 48 hours. Alison Palmintere, Director of Communications at Ski Utah, joins the show to discuss how the ski resorts are doing with all the snow.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There is a shortage of several high-profile prescription drugs, and it's causing patients and parents to have to hunt for them. What should you do if your pharmacy doesn't have what you need? Erin Fox, Senior Pharmacy Director at the University of Utah Health, joins the show to share her expertise in drug shortages and talk about what's going on with the medication availability.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Erin took us from tweaking her page on MySpace to her master's in journalism. She then spoke about her jobs and how she was not challenged/stimulated. She told us how the idea of going through a Bootcamp emerged, how she found the right Bootcamp for her and bit the bullet. We talked about her first job, her first mentor, pair programming, and moving on. We talked about having a hard time finding a new job, finding a bad fit, and finally landing at the right place after being laid off. We spoke about communities and speaking at conferences, and finally, of remote work; before, it was cool.Here are the links from the show:https://www.twitter.com/erinfooxCreditsCover Heliotrope by Blue Dot Sessions is licensed CC BY-NC-ND 4.0.Your host is Timothée (Tim) Bourguignon, more about him at timbourguignon.fr.Gift the podcast a rating on one of the significant platforms https://devjourney.info/subscribeSupport the show

I met up with my friend Erin Fox recently at the Fishtown Diner in Philly to have breakfast for dinner and we had a fascinating conversation that actually lasted long after the lavalier mics were turned off, but what we did capture in the recording was the backstory of a person who truly embodies the name of her alt rock band Resilient, because she has faced down some serious life and career challenges to stay the least. Whether it was playing bar gigs in her Mom's cover band since the age of 7, or signing shady music biz contracts by the time she was in her teens, or having brain surgery in her 20's, Erin Fox has survived things that would absolutely have broken some people. Yet, she pushes forth and just keeps getting better at her craft. Her 2021 album Fuzzy Logic sounds like a lost mid-60's baroque pop classic, with soaring melodies, sophisticated chord changes, and lush instrumentation.  I'm extremely grateful she took the time to have this conversation with me.  I hope you'll take a listen and enjoy!

Joel and Andy are joined this week by Erin Fox, who chose the Zack Snyder film Sucker Punch, in which the protagonist slips into fantasy worlds to escape the horrors of her real life.

#AWBC2022 A recap of the final day's WA v NSW game, plus Christina Kreppold, Erin Fox, Laura Neads, Shae Lillywhite and Amy McCann remember Jacinda Barclay & preview the gold medal game. 

For the final round, Joel and Lars are joined by Erin Fox, Marty McGuire and Jonathan Monroe.

Joel and Andy, along with their friend Erin Fox, close out the month with Phantoms to try to figure out if Affleck is, in fact, the bomb in it.

Erin Fox, Senior Pharmacy Director at the University of Utah Hospitals and Clinics and winner of the Vizient Pharmacy Vision Award for Excellence in Public Policy, discusses her advocacy with host Gretchen Brummel.   Guest speakers: Erin Fox, PharmD, BCPS, FASHP Senior Pharmacy Director University of Utah Hospitals and Clinics   Moderator: Gretchen Brummel, PharmD, BCPS Pharmacy Executive Director Vizient Center for Pharmacy Practice Excellence   Show Notes: [01:05-1:55] What got Erin interested in advocacy [01:56-2:43 ] How advocacy became a goal [02:44-3:20] How has Advocacy work progressed and expanded over the years [03:21-4:18] What Erin is most proud of [04:19-4:49] What has been most challenging     [04:50-5:45] Advice Erin would give herself 20 years ago [05:50-6:16] Collaborating with peers [06:17-7:39] How front-line pharmacy professionals can get involved [07:40-8:29] Biggest issues over next 5-10 years   Links | Resources: Vizient Pharmacy Vision Awards: Excellence in Public Policy Click here Vizient Pharmacy Vision Awards Click here   Subscribe Today! Apple Podcasts Amazon Podcasts Google Podcasts Spotify Stitcher Android RSS Feed

No way around it, this guy slaps at every aspect of life- And one of those aspects is how he is part owner of The Dent School House. He tells us alll about how it is actually haunted and what goes on behind the scenes. Lets get spooky!

Prescription medicines can be expensive. But there are some things you can do to stretch your dollar and get the best deal. On this Health Minute, Dr. Erin Fox, PharmD at University of Utah and Director of Drug Information Services, gives three tips to reduce prescription drug costs.

Today's episode is a special one for Kitzy. We're taking with Philly folk sensation Erin Fox about her record Fuzzy Logic. Erin tells us the story of how it took a few attempts in various studios (and her own home) to get this record feeling right, and how she finally ended up being one of the first artists to work in Kitzy's studio. You can listen to the record, and place a pre-order for the next vinyl pressing, on Erin's https://erinfox.bandcamp.com/ (Bandcamp) page. And if you want more jams from Erin, check out her band https://resilient.bandcamp.com/ (Resilient). Subscribers to the https://leftofthedial.live (Left of the Dial) YouTube page will already know this, but Erin will also be the next artist performing on Left of the Dial Live, on Saturday 8/7. Don't miss this one! But even if you do, you can still pick up the audio when it's released on https://leftofthedial.bandcamp.com/ (Bandcamp). If you're in or near eastern PA, catch Erin at https://www.musikfest.org/event/day/2021-08-13/ (Bethlehem Musikfest) on 8/13! Support this podcast

I spoke with Erin Fox, Senior Director at University of Utah Health, about the future direction of the #pharmaceutical industry and the changing role of #pharmacists. We will discuss everything from #drugshortages to on-shoring, #cybersecurity to Civica Rx and much much more.

On the eve of the 200th episode, Dan takes yet another opportunity to highlight some great Philly music. Featuring new tunes from Dave Cope and the Sass, Emily Drinker, Ali Awan, Sophie Coran, Erin Fox, and more. Check out the clickable playlist at 25oclockpod.com with all the artists links.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are joined one final time by Erin Fox, Andy McIntyre, Marty McGuire, Julia Hershey and Patrick Storck to decide a winner in the Mabel Memorial Hobo Madness Tournament.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are joined by Erin Fox, Andy McIntyre, Marty McGuire, Jonathan Monroe, Julia Hershey and Patrick Storck for the Elite Eight round of their Mabel Memorial Hobo Madness Tournament.

There is currently no formal law regulating dietary supplements in the United States. On Health Minute, Dr. Erin Fox shares what you should be looking for on that vitamin bottle to make sure you're really getting what you paid for and keep yourself safe when shopping for supplements.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are joined by Erin Fox, Andy McIntyre, Marty McGuire, Jonathan Monroe, Julia Hershey and Patrick Storck for the Sweet 16 round of their Mabel Memorial Hobo Madness Tournament.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are joined by Erin Fox, Andy McIntyre, Marty McGuire, Jonathan Monroe, Julia Hershey and Patrick Storck for round two of their Mabel Memorial Hobo Madness Tournament.

The wait is finally over ... Zack Snyder's Justice League has arrived on HBO Max, so Joel and Andy watch it with special guest Erin Fox.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are joined by Erin Fox, Andy McIntyre, Marty McGuire, Jonathan Monroe, Julia Hershey and Patrick Storck for the part two of the opening round of their Mabel Memorial Hobo Madness Tournament. Round One, Part Two: Mystery Science Theater 3000 vs. Magnum, P.I.Sanford and Son vs. Inspector GadgetStar Trek: The Next […]

Erin Fox (@erinfoox) joins Jenn (@gurlcode) to talk about one of the most stressful parts of being a software developer: interviews. We talk about why interviewing in tech is nerve-racking, how to handle rejections and why, like dating, you should never commit too early. Transcript: https://dev.to/gurlcode/single-threaded-podcast-erin-fox-on-interviewing-4f4l Show notes: Follow Erin on Twitter Questions Erin asks a company when interviewing Erin's “interviewing red flags” article --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/single-threaded/support

Erin Fox talks with Dan about growing up playing in her mom's cover band, writing songs and playing with her drummer sister (and the joys of working with your sibling), getting nervous before everything, and her new single 'Pictures' and the forthcoming release ('Fuzzy Logic'). Features two acoustic performances from Erin, as well as a quick meet and greet with her dogs, Rudy and Peach.

This Midyear Clinical Meeting session led by Erin Fox and Jeff Little teaches how the listener how to compare legislative and regulatory advocacy issues at the state and nation level and recommend appropriate advocacy strategies for current patient care issues. The information presented during the podcast reflects solely the opinions of the presenter.  The information and materials are not, and are not intended as, a comprehensive source of drug information on this topic. The contents of the podcast have not been reviewed by ASHP, and should neither be interpreted as the official policies of ASHP, nor an endorsement of any product(s), nor should they be considered as a substitute for the professional judgment of the pharmacist or physician.

WELCOME 2021! And welcome BACK to the Starting Over Stronger Divorce Survival and Recovery Show! Season 2 begins today and we are kicking off the second season of the show with an important episode on seeking therapy during divorce. Should you? Shouldn't you? What effects will be realized if you do? What if you don't but you really need? How to know if you (or your kids) would benefit. We will discuss this today with Attorney Erin Fox because she is passionate and knowledgable about seeking therapy when needed during divorce and eager to share more with you.RESOURCES:If you have questions about seeking therapy or coaching during your divorce, please email Annie@StartingOverStronger.com or visit www.StartingOverStronger.com to see more about my coaching services and how to book a complimentary discovery call to see what is right for you."Can I keep the house?" Find out more about what an RCS-D REALTOR does to protect you as you make this decision. www.AtHomewithAnnie.com.If you have ideas for topics in future episodes or to ask a question for a future ASK ME ANYTHING episode, please email Annie@StartingOverStronger.com. Gratefully,Annie You matter! Please find and follow us on Facebook, Instagram and on your favorite podcast player. Your 5-star ratings and positive reviews make all the difference as the growing podcast community seeks content that will inspire, entertain and educate them in their efforts toward real life transformation. Would you take just a moment to rate and review Starting Over Stronger? Here and on any platforms where you find us. THANKS!© SOS Divorce Survival & Recovery. Divorce Well. Live Well.Support the show (https://www.paypal.me/anniejallen)

In one day, the detectives investigate a murder on lover's lane, a deadly stick-up, a drug shooting, a cold case, and a woman who cuts off her husband's penis. Logan commits police brutality with a bagel and Briscoe just wants to get to the Knicks game. All of this because Michael Moriarty went crazy on the set.  We're talking about the classic, format-breaking Law & Order season 4 episode 17 "Mayhem" with our guest Erin Fox. One of the many ripped-from-the-headlines cases that inspired this episode is the story of Lorena Bobbitt.  Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/partnersincrimemedia See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As the year draws to a close, Dan talks to a few past guests about the music they put out this year, the tunes they discovered, and what they managed to get done. Featuring conversations with John Faye, Lia Menaker, Tara Murtha, Jesse Lundy, and Brian Walker. Includes tracks by Erin Fox, Sophie Coran, Avataria, Erin Incoherent, and more. Happy New Year to all!

The theme is "Lock", and it's very secure. No one is going to steal this episode, we made sure of that. If you want to listen, you're going to have to grab the key from the last listener because there's only one of them floating around. John starts working on his panic room, fed-up Americans make travel plans, and an obnoxious dude gets his comeuppance in a creepy song featuring special guest Erin Fox. Have a listen, and then forever lock it away with your most treasured memories.

The pandemic has put a lot of pressure on both our health care system and the scientific process — exposing weaknesses that have long existed, but only now become impossible to ignore. On this episode, we take a look at some of the hard truths that COVID-19 is revealing, and what can be done about them. We hear stories about America’s problem with drug shortages, how COVID-19 is affecting the lives of young doctors, and the devastating reality of racial health disparities in New Orleans. Also heard on this week’s episode: President Donald Trump promoted hydroxychloroquine as a potential COVID-19 treatment in March, causing a surge in demand, and shortages for patients who needed it. But even before the pandemic, drug shortages have led to missed cancer treatments, and even deaths. Reporter Alan Yu talks with Rebecca Mosner, Ethan Daniels, Chip Davis from the Healthcare Distribution Alliance, Ryan Marable from Kroger and the National Pharmaceutical Association, Erin Fox from University of Utah Health, Rena Conti from the Boston University Questrom School of Business, Anne Pritchett from the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America. Racial health disparities exist across the country — but in New Orleans, recently, ProPublica has found they led to the deaths of elderly Black patients who were sent home to die after contracting COVID-19. We talk with the investigative reporters behind that story, Annie Waldman and Joshua Kaplan. NYU medical ethicist Art Caplan talks about the importance of a slow and deliberate process in scientific research, even when the pressure for breakthroughs is great.

Join me today as I meet with Linsey Cheshire and Erin Fox of The Pinnacle at Plymouth Meeting. We learn how they work with seniors and discuss what to expect when moving into a Senior Community and how to prepare. Check out their new community on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDPTmo9swfDThWoEWsJJ1Jg Can't watch the video? Listen to the new podcast: https://anchor.fm/john-freitag Contact Linsey and Erin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linsey-cheshire-mba-09679172/ www.pinnacleatplymouthmeeting.com Contact John at https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-freitag-54509088/ https://myallamericanhospice.com/ Join Senior Healthcare Professionals at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SeniorHealthcarePros https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12326854/

Erin Fox is originally from Murphy, North Carolina, and she received her BSED in Secondary English Education from Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, North Carolina. She earned her master’s degree in Gifted and Talented Education several years later from Converse College in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Fox was initially hired at Gaffney High School to be an English II teacher. During her seventeen years at Gaffney High she has taught Advanced Drama, Drama I, Introduction to Drama, Theatrical Movement, Academic Assistance, English I, English II, and English III. She loves the teaching opportunities that exploring literature and English Language Arts provides for her students and herself. As she works to challenge them, they challenge her as well, and she loves to infuse their work with kinesthetic/tactile lessons and artistic endeavors. Fox wants to provide students with personal ways to interact with the literature so that it speaks to their individual hearts in very real ways. She loves working with students in a variety of ways but most especially through the Fit2gether committee, the Miss Cherokeean Pageant, and the Homecoming Committee. Fox serves as the CCSD Employee Wellness Coordinator and creates and leads twice weekly workouts with faculty and staff members and their families across the district. She is married to her best friend, Danny Fox, and they have two children: a twelve-year old son, Jack, and an eight-year old daughter, Scout. Erin's Book Recommendations Born to Run: A Hidden Tribe, Superathletes, and the Greatest Race the World Has Never Seen Girl, Wash Your Face: Stop Believing the Lies about Who You Are So You Can Become Who You Were Meant to Be The Badass Life: 30 Amazing Days to a Lifetime of Great Habits - Body, Mind, and Spirit If you are interested in connecting and collaborating with Erin, you can e-mail her at erin.fox@cherokee1.org --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/todd-scholl0/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/todd-scholl0/support

Today on ASHPOfficial, Tom Kraus interviews Erin Fox, who is the Senior Director of Drug Information and Support Services at the University of Utah Health. She is the 2019 Zellmer Lecture Award winner and a national expert on drug shortages. Erin advises a member of congress and has worked with ASHP to inform policies on drug shortages. Tom and Erin discuss how drug shortages affect patient care, as well as how the FDA and congress can minimize the resulting impact.(1:04) In mid-2017 there was a large increase in the number of drug shortages, specifically to do with quite common products. Erin explains how frustrating the problem is, because it isn’t going away, and her team is currently monitoring 280 drug shortages. Manufacturing issues to do with quality or reduced output are triggering the shortages. Many of the issues seen by the FDA, including birds flying around in sterile environments, mold on walls, and metal shavings in vials take years to rectify. The manufacturers themselves devise their own processes to comply with guidelines, but the FDA only inspects when companies intentionally do not follow their own processes or falsify data. Economics also plays a role, as common drugs that hospitals use are treated as commodities. Hospitals are incentivized to use the lowest-cost products, because they are reimbursed on a DRG basis. The competition for these contracts with hospitals leads to some companies being underwater on the commodity-based drugs, meaning they will focus more of their efforts on other drugs with higher margins.(6:07) To incentivize quality, it’s important to include transparency. Currently, there is no requirement that a manufacturer release where its products are being produced, so that when there is a health concern, purchasers can avoid the quality issues. By adding transparency, purchasers can decide to buy higher quality items with fewer shortages and recalls, which are also costly. The FDASIA (Food and Drug Administration Safety and Innovation Act) Law was also introduced in 2012 to improve disclosure from companies to the FDA about drug shortages. The FDA can use the data to try to stop shortages in the future, but once a shortage is reported, it’s difficult to solve, because other countries or companies do not have enough product to share with a market as large as the US.(9:30) When drug companies contract outside manufacturers, there is no requirement to disclose which manufacturer produced a company’s product. Added transparency here would also allow for quality to be rewarded in the future. When a contract manufacturer is responsible for multiple companies’ supplies of the same drug, any service interruption can cause a massive drug shortage. To add to this weak link in the supply chain, there is no requirement from the FDA for contract manufacturers to have a continuity plan in the event of a shutdown. Commenting is open on the docket now and asking a manufacturer about contingency planning would be an excellent way to use FDA quality metrics to rate a manufacturer higher.(12:47) 503B compounding pharmacies can help with drug shortages but can’t begin work until the drug appears on the FDA shortage list. The FDA takes time before a drug appears on its list and the compounder will then need an additional three-four weeks to make a good batch. The compounders don’t have much insight into what drugs may be put on the shortage list and how long they will be on the list, such that they may be stuck with a large batch that they can no longer sell. Other tools the FDA can deploy include asking other manufacturers to ramp up production of drugs and assisting in moving a manufacturers application to the front of the line if necessary.(17:10) There are a few ways to think about national security as it relates to drug shortages. The first is to ask: do we have enough drugs if we need to send our soldiers to war, and do we have enough to take care of our own patents and to keep the hospitals running? The second aspect to consider is where the foreign sources for drug manufacturing come from and what the fallout would be if those sources cut off supply. Most antibiotics source raw materials from China, for example.Outbound Links & Resources MentionedLearn more about ASHP’s policy solutions to reduce drug shortages at: https://www.ashp.org/Advocacy-and-Issues/Key-Issues/Drug-Shortages  Takeaways in Today’s EpisodeThe frequency of drug shortages being reported is increasing, and Erin’s team is currently monitoring 280 active drug shortages.Drug shortages are a result of quality issues at manufacturing facilities and glitches in the manufacturing process when one company holds a large market share of a product.The FDA will inspect drug manufacturers when processes are not being followed or data are being falsified, which is an increasing problem.Hospitals are in a race to the bottom in terms of drug costs, due to the DRG structure.To incentivize quality, transparency in the drug manufacturing process is required.In 2012, ASHP supported the FDASIA Law to pass, which required manufacturers to disclose if there was going to be a shortage or stop on production.On low-cost products, it’s easier for contract manufacturers to have a shortage than to invest time in a what-if/backup plan.The FDA was hopeful that 503B compounding pharmacies could help with drug shortages, but the time required to produce the drugs is at least a few weeks, by which time the drug may have come off the list and the compounders can no longer sell it.There have been increasing conversations lately to do with national security as it relates to drug shortages.More than 80% of raw materials for drug manufacturing come from foreign sources.Consolidation of manufacturers leads to more fragility in the supply chain, particularly for injectables.The FDA is closest to being able to predict shortages but requires more data points and transparency from suppliers and manufacturers to obtain a predictive model.We also want to make listeners aware that legislation was recently introduced that incorporates several of these priorities.The introduction of this legislation is a first step to advancing these policy priorities. To become law, the legislation will need to be approved by the full Senate and the House of Representatives.Listeners can see ASHP’s policy solutions and let congress know they support this legislation by following the link in the show notes to this podcast, or in the advocacy section of ASHP.org.

For the last episode of season 1 of Dreams Not Memes I spoke with Erin Fox. Erin Fox is writing a song with me that will come out sometime in 2020. Erin spoke with me about her journey touring on a Megabus, being an instrumentalist , surviving brain cancer, giving back, taking on different roles as a musician and why learning is important as a musician. Check out more on this last episode of Dreams not Memes. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dreamsnotmemes/support

Erin Fox is a React Native developer at Major League Soccer. Despite joining the software engineering industry recently she has spoken at a number of conferences and meetups. We talk about building confidence and the benefits of getting involved in the community. Erin's internet home: https://twitter.com/erinfoox/

In this episode of Leading from the Classroom, 2018 South Carolina Teacher of the Year Erin Fox tells the story of how she found inspiration where she least expected it: at Space Camp, and how it inspired her to create the summer reading program she’s always dreamed of.

Hello Hello - Music Lovers!I hope this latest writing finds you well and your belly full of turkey leftovers. In the great words of Dave Matthews and others before him... Eat, Drink and be Merry!This time I am getting back to you with Erin Fox . In our latest episode we discuss her solo work and her band  Resilient. Erin is a singer and songwriter; and she has been performing in the local music community for almost two decades.Philly’s own Resilient serves to bring diverse and more electrifying music to the public. It’s a femme-driven band headed by songwriter Erin Fox, supported by her sister, Katie Fox, who is a drummer in the band. This band melds together 90’s influenced grunge rock with modern pop undertones to form a sui generis sound all on their own. Erin brings in what she refers to as a ‘song fetus’ composed on simple riffs and incomplete lyrics. The light, folky pop of her current ‘EP Your Joy’, and her first solo album, ‘Forbidden Youth’, both self-released albums are a source of amazement. Highlights:- What it's like to grow up in a music family in Philly - How Life inspires art with her song "Tim for Doctor" with Health Care - Her love of Prince and cover of "Nothing Compares to U" - The importance of both being in a band and going solo - The importance of meditation and how her day begins and ends - So Much more! Erin developed an interest in music very early on in life. Growing up in a music family in Philly was a blessing for her. She was inspired by her mother and wanted to be just like her. Her sister was the reason she started playing music in the first place.  She loved Prince and his song ‘Nothing Compares to U’. She is a huge fan of Prince and we share that in common. It was his energy that she was most fond of. After working in her band Sugar High, she started working on her solo songs with her first release in July 2018. She said that when you work solo, everything has to come from you. While working in a band you get ideas from people working with you.Erin loves to meditate and she starts her day doing some physical activities and meditation. Her song ‘Time for Doctor’ is a perfect blend of how life inspires art. She had an experience with cancer which inspired this song. ‘Time for Doctor’ comes from a place of frustration with our current state of health care in the U.S.  She suggested that we can always do better and learn from the experiences of others. Her song ‘Tomorrow’s Yesterday’ is also from her personal experiences, mainly those with her family and friends. Catch the latest episode and listen to Erin and find out how she beat cancer with music. Here are links to Erin’s websites:https://erinfox.bandcamp.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDqDfHX9rln7rvXrf4zxXxg http://resilienttheband.com/about-us/ Here is a link to my last newsletter:https://us12.admin.mailchimp.com/templates/share?id=92794697_792355d83291c8276048_us12Let's officially Swagger then SwerveSwagger Swerve LinksGet in tune with your inner creativity with Swagger Swerve here: https://swaggerswerve.squarespace.comLet me know what you think by subscribing on social mediaYou can follow Geoff from Swagger Swerve at:Website: http://swaggwerswerve.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/swaggerthenswerveFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/swaggerswerveGeoff's New Program on how to release one song a month for the next 12 months - Music GSD (Get S Done) https://swaggerswerve.squarespace.com/store  

Erin Fox of U of Utah on what hospitals are doing to combat drug shortages. BYU alum Kurt Dickson shares his experience swimming the English Channel. BYU's Mark Belk gets evidence of climate change from Alaskan fish. Cathy Chase of Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety explains why traffic fatalities are climbing. Margo Susca of American Univ finds Disney's merger with 21st Century Fox troubling. Rachel Wadham of World's Awaiting talks 2018's upcoming books.

Here we meet Briscoe's new partner, the smiling, good-natured, loving family man Rey Curtis (boy how things will change). And of course, Briscoe can't stand him. But once they catch the bad guy, the victim's mom shoots him in court...getting blood all over Claire's new suit. We're looking at Law & Order season 6 episode 1 "Bitter Fruit." Our guest is Erin Fox of the "You, Me, and PTSD" podcast. This episode takes some cues from the real life case of Ellie Nesler. Support the show.

This week's Charlie Tonic Hour was recorded live at The Overlook Lodge on June 5, 2017. Inspired by an article from The Atlantic, Ginny and Charlie discussed their top three favorite movies (to rewatch over and over). They the cover the psychology behind why it is that we rewatch the same movies and TV shows time after time. They end the show with a spooky drink called The Graveyard from bartender Erin Fox who joins them live on the show!

Dr. Linda Tyler, PharmD and Dr. Erin Fox, PharmD first met as professor and student. Little did they know that together they would build Utah’s Drug Information Service into the nation’s premier source of expertise in projecting, understanding and mitigating drug shortages. This work not only keeps our patients safe, but it also improves care for patients across the country. Accelerate’s Chrissy Daniels and Mari Ransco learn about their critical work.

Dr. Linda Tyler, PharmD and Dr. Erin Fox, PharmD built Utah’s Drug Information Service into the nation’s premier source of expertise in projecting, understanding and mitigating drug shortages. They discuss two drug shortage and their work to prevent patient harm.

Joel Murphy, Lars Periwinkle, Molly Regan, Andy McIntyre, Erin Fox and Marty McGuire decide the finals of the Monster Mayhem tournament . Also, Joel Murphy and Lars discuss the plethora of quality TV shows coming out in April, the bizarre foods served in school cafeterias and people's need to spoil shows on social media.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are once again joined by Molly Regan, Andy McIntyre, Erin Fox and Marty McGuire for the Hobo Madness tournament. Before diving into the tournament, Lars talks about his recent trip to Vegas to watch an old friend get married and Joel explains why he can't help defending Captain America: Civil War.

This week on the Charlie Tonic Hour, Charlie tells the amazing tale of meeting Kevin Smith up close and personal this week while Ginny stayed safely away and had lunch with her parents. Ginny also interviews Erin Fox from The Overlook Lodge and learns about more women-centric events in Cincinnati.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are joined by their friends Molly Regan, Andy McIntyre, Erin Fox and Marty McGuire for the fourth annual Hobo Madness tournament. This year, they are pitting 16 monsters against each other to crown one ultimate winner.

PNN host News Director Rick Spisak and special Senior Political Correspondent Ms. Brook Hines will bring you discussions of some of the topics of the day. As we rapidly approach the JUMPING OFF POINT from the Frying Pan into the TRUMPIAN FIRES BELOW! (OUCH!) We will share and discuss recent comments of note from Senator Sanders who despite the evacuation of the leadership of the party formerly known as Democrats remains inn the fight. While he stands viryually alone Defending Health Care Access and Social Security!   Brook will discuss the latest news from Florida's Democratic Party, and its exciting leadership battle. WILL MONEY WIN OUT? WILL PROGRESSIVE FIND THEIR VOICE? WILL THE PARTY HAVE A CHOICE - TUNE IN! We also will interview Water Activist and Artist Nicole Williams on the SABLE TRAIL Pipeline and overall WATER ISSUES - TUNE IN - You'll get some very important tips how you can help! We also Interview Erin Fox producer and host of "News for Progressives" a progressive news show from the area of FLINT Michigan. He gives an idea of what issues face progressive in Michigan and how they are preparing for the years ahead. TUNE IN 7pm Eastern / 4pm Pacific

LO S13E24 "Smoke": TVGuide.com reporter Erin Fox joins the gang to discuss original recipe season 13, episode 24, "Smoke." A baby falls to his death after being dangled from a window by his celebrity father. But the investigation uncovers allegations of other improper conduct. This episode is based on the many scandals surrounding Michael Jackson. For exclusive content and more, sign up on Patreon.: https://www.patreon.com/partnersincrimemedia

LO S13E24 "Smoke": TVGuide.com reporter Erin Fox joins the gang to discuss original recipe season 13, episode 24, "Smoke." A baby falls to his death after being dangled from a window by his celebrity father. But the investigation uncovers allegations of other improper conduct. This episode is based on the many, many scandals surrounding Michael Jackson. Support the show.

Joel Murphy is joined by his good friends Erin Fox and Andy McIntrye for one last show before Joel heads out to Los Angeles to seek fame and fortune. They talk about Joel's surprise going away improv show, TV shows recasting parts with noticeably different actors and Ben Affleck's surprising candidness on the Armageddon DVD commentary.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are once again joined by Andy McIntyre and Erin Fox. The four of them discuss the Rogue One trailer, the awfulness of misogynistic Internet comments and Erin's pick for President. And they decide the winner of their Simpsons tournament.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are once again joined by Andy McIntyre and Erin Fox. The four of them talk about cliffhangers in TV and the difficulty in adapting books to television. They also take on the Final Four round of the Hobo Madness "Best Simpsons Episode Ever" Tournament.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle are joined by Andy McIntyre and Erin Fox. The four of them try to get to the bottom of why Ben Affleck looked so sad on the press tour for Batman v. Superman. They also take on the Elite Eight round of the Hobo Madness Best Simpsons Episode Ever Tournament.

Recent studies show that increasing medication prices is the number one health care concern for patients. The increase may mean more money for the companies that manufacture medications, but what about patients? More money spent on research and development equals increased prescription costs. Is that fair? Dr. Kyle Bradford Jones discusses the issue with Director of Drug Information Services at the University of Utah, Dr. Erin Fox. They talk about the causes of increased medication pricing and possible solutions.

Joel Murphy and Lars Periwinkle of HoboTrashcan.com are joined by Joel’s friend Erin Fox, who just got back from a pilgrimage to New York City to see Saturday Night Live. She recounts the 19 hours of waiting in line, the show itself (which was hosted by Woody Harrelson) and the afterparty. They also discuss the works of J.J. Abrams, Erin’s candy obsession and Lars’ recent encounter with a hooker. Does camping out for SNL live up to the hype? What’s the last thing Joel or Lars camped out in line for? How does Lars feel about Star Wars? The answers to these questions and more are in this week’s podcast. This week’s music: Intro – “Giddy Up” by Tahuna Breaks End – “On A Plane” by Froy Never miss a show. Subscribe on iTunes or through the XML feed.

Dr. Erin Fox is the Director of the Drug Information Service at the University of Utah Hospitals and Clinics and Associate Professor of Pharmacotherapy at the University of Utah College of Pharmacy. Stephen Morrissey, the interviewer, is the Managing Editor of the Journal. J.L. Hick and Others. Rationing Salt Water - Disaster Planning and Daily Care Delivery. N Engl J Med 2014;370:1573-6.