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This week on the show jD welcomes Vish from his own Kreative Kontrol, if you haven't checked it out get after it!Vish discusses song 18 and shares his Pavement origin story.Transcript:Track 1:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50.Track 2:[0:02] This week we're going deep on Box Elder. How are you feeling about song number 19, Kyra, from the COWI? I fucking love Box Elder so much. It's a great song. It's one of the earlier Pavement songs. I think it's a very early Pavement song, which is cool. And it's one that really holds up.Track 1:[0:25] I think, too. you. Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band Pavement, and you're listening to The Countdown.Track 3:[0:34] Hey, it's JD here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for Seminole Indie Rock Band Pavement. Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballads. I then tabulated the results using an abacus, a wet towel, and some scrawny kid from 10th grade gym class. How will your favorite songs fare in the rankings? You'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that. This week I'm joined by Pavement superfan Vish from Creative Control with Vish Khanna. Dude, thanks for taking some time to do this. It means a lot. How the hell are you doing? I'm well, JD. Thanks for having me on your show. How are you doing? I'm great today. It's a little overcast here, but it's about five degrees so i'm gonna go for a walk later and uh.Track 3:[1:24] And that's a, that's, those are good times for me. Very nice. That's good. Going outside. Can't beat it. Yeah. No, you can't at all. Well, let's not beat around the bush, speaking of beat it, and get right into your Pavement Origins story.Track 3:[1:38] Talk to me about that, Vish. Well, I was trying to, you know, I knew I was coming on your show, so I figured I should try to ponder this, you know, and I, I was trying to remember. Remember, I think I first came upon the band when I read about them in Spin Magazine, like, I think before Crooked Rain came out. And I don't know what it was about that piece. This is right around the time I started getting to go to record stores. You know, I'm, what would I have been then? I would have been 15, 16. Some of us were driving so we could leave Cambridge, Ontario, where I'm from, and we could go to Kitchener and Waterloo and Toronto. They had the cooler record stores those were like uh college university towns so then we started going to record stores and then you start talking to the record store people and they tell you what they like and you respect them because they're your surrogate parents so somebody somebody somewhere along the line told me about pavement i i'm pretty sure it was the spin magazine article that i was i started devouring more and more music journalism and i think it was that so i remember owning uh slanted and enchanted and also uh the record store had the trigger cut single so i think i bought both things and i'm fairly certain about both things and uh i will say that that first single got me completely obsessed with their singles um because i think they're.Track 3:[3:07] I don't know, they're one of the greatest treasure troves of any band I can think of. I know you've probably talked about this with others, but I really value Pavement B-Sides. Like, I wasn't that surprised. I mean, I was surprised that Harness Your Hopes went kind of bonkers recently, but like, I'm not surprised. Like, Pavement B-Sides, I know some of them better than I know the album songs, to be honest with you. I just became so obsessed with how great, like, the the quality of their B-sides really spoke to me. And then, yeah, that's one of the, and then I feel like that was a gateway into like, what is Silver Jews? Like, why is this, what is Silver Jews in the pavement section? What is it? Oh, it's a, it's a project. Oh, there's Bob and Steve on the back of the album covers. So they're in this, I guess. And so, yeah, the B-side alternate pavement universe if you will really spoke to me and still does uh i find myself uh kind of you know mumbling song lyrics and and tunes and melodies from you know humming them from from all the b-side so yeah i i would i would position myself that way as someone who i get a little obsessive so it wasn't just the album uh the albums it was like i want to get all the singles so i owned every single.Track 3:[4:24] On mostly on compact disc when i was coming up of age and now i've got them all on actually you know what i ordered i ordered that thing that you ordered the box that i ordered the singles box that i have a bunch of them but i was like what the hell i'm gonna do it so the book looks good yeah everything about it looks good i love pavement so uh i just thought i would get that too and uh yeah i think that's pretty much it that's where i discovered them and then of course they blew up uh you know they're one of those bands that all your cool uh heroes were talking talking about before you even heard them you know so you'd read a interview with somebody you liked and they'd mention pavements you're like what is this pavement so really have a time and place for me word of mouth and then actually digging in i have still a sense memory of playing slanted and enchanted and hearing summer babe and you're just like what the hell so yeah i'd say that's that that that's that's got to be it i think that's it and you got to be there for the release of watery then did you as somebody who was like sort of ep and single obsessed did you pick that up when it came out i did i did pick it up i don't know if i got it right when it came out i can't say that for sure because i feel like i still came to them a little bit later um because i'm sure they were that article was 93 like i don't think it was about slanted it was just mentioned so but i got it yeah and as you may have heard me talk about it's yeah it's my it's like my favorite thing, really, in some ways. I love, and yeah, I miss Gary Young.Track 3:[5:51] I never got to meet or talk to Gary Young, but yeah, the drumming as a drummer as well, as a budding drummer, like hearing Gary's playing, that had a huge influence on me too. So yeah, that era. Put your finger on what it is, isn't it?Track 3:[6:06] Like, what it is about Gary's drumming. I love Westy. I love him. He's a great guy, and he's a great drummer. But there's something about Gary. There's something about the looseness and the showmanship of people like Gary Young. I would say here in Canada, we have Mark Gaudette, who was in Eric's trip, and his drumming, too. Like, it's punk rock, but it's a bit more technical. And it's precise, but it's loose. And it just has it. He's making an instrument. you know they have their own voice i suppose as drummers they have their own like you hear it and you're like oh that's that's that's either gary or as i mentioned mark for two examples uh or it's someone copying them you know it's someone someone kind of ripping them off so i certainly was of this learning how to play the instrument and getting into some really amazing drummers at the time uh just because i didn't take drum lessons i would just listen to things or go see bands and And certain people and their drumming had a huge impact on me. And certainly early pavement drumming, you know, I think it's an underrated facet of that band. Did you get a chance to see the Gary Dock?Track 3:[7:18] No, you know what? I haven't seen that doc. That's a good call. I've been rather swamped of late and I need to do that. Have you seen it? Yeah, it's really, it's, it's pretty fabulous. Yeah, I can imagine. You're right. I should, I don't know. I'm at a thing where I got to do so much and I process so much information and music and I can't keep up with everything. So yeah, I saw it come through and I was like, yeah, I will watch that eventually. And then before you know it, I don't think I'm alone in this where there's just so much stuff to consume, but yeah, good Good call. Good call. I'll try to track it down on, I don't know if it's on a thing, a service or whatever, a streaming service, but I'll try and watch that. Yeah, I think it is because I don't know how I would have seen it. I forgot. Yeah. Um, when, when did you finally get to, uh, see them live or did you see them live in the original sort of run? I saw them for the first time in Barrie, Ontario at Lollapalooza in 1995. This was the. Wow. Lollapalooza curated by Sonic Youth.Track 3:[8:18] So also on the bill was, it was supposed to be Sinead, or sorry, it was supposed, yeah, it was supposed to be Sinead O'Connor, but I think I attended the first show that she couldn't play because she was pregnant. And so Elastica filled in, but the day was like a mighty, mighty Boston's first time I got to see the Jesus lizard. Blizzard, uh, uh, Pavement obviously played during the day, uh, Hole played. Beck was on the lineup too, wasn't he? Yeah, I saw Beck play two sets, one on the main stage, uh, this was just ahead, uh, ahead of Odile coming up, and, um, he also did a side stage, uh, performance where I actually spoke to him, he, he came down and, uh, signed autographs, so he signed, I don't know where it is but he signed my Lollapalooza ticket stub and I asked him I actually I think I, I tripped him out a little because I'd heard that he was going to be collaborating with a Toronto musician. And when I mentioned it, he was like, oh, yeah, we have been talking about that. Like he was I kind of nardwired him.Track 3:[9:23] I didn't mean it was just a rumor. I just said it. And he was like, oh, yeah, we were talking about that. So anyway. Yeah. So, yeah. And the Far Side played and Moby played and all sorts of amazing eclectic. Yeah. Yeah, Cypress Hill was one of the headliners. Bob Nastanovich, when he was on my show, I did a little documentary about Bright in the Corners. And he talked extensively about their experiences with some of the artists and their experiences playing Lollapalooza. And Bob's amazing innovation of suggesting that instead of getting a bus, they would each get minivans. He got a great deal in some rental minivans and that way they could play and then just drive ahead to the show and not worry about the gear and all that stuff and and and they could kind of travel at their leisure and uh yeah anyway so Lollapalooza 95 is the first show then I saw them at the Phoenix in Toronto for the Bright in the Corners tour and then I saw them play uh you remember the cool house and the, sorry, for those wondering in Toronto.Track 3:[10:33] There was a venue and it had two rooms. It was called the Warehouse. And then beside it was something called the Government, a smaller room. And then the Warehouse became, it was like the RPM Warehouse or something like that. That's right. And then it changed names. It was the Cool House, but I think the Government was still there. So for Terror Twilight, as I recall, Pavement played the Government. So the smaller room on that tour. So I saw them there. And then I saw them on Toronto Island on the first reunion tour with the Broken Social scene.Track 3:[11:08] And I think that's the last time I was invited or I was supposed to go see them in Austin, Texas. And Bob hooked me up. And I think I might have even been able to attend the Austin City Limits taping. But unfortunately, I couldn't make it at the last minute. So that was a bit of a bummer. But I regret it. But, you know, it was weird, still weird pandemic times then. And I, I think there was also other stuff going on. So I didn't get to see them on this current reunion, but it still seems to be going as we're speaking. So who knows?Track 3:[11:42] Maybe I can see them somehow. now yeah yeah and we are recording this in early april so yeah there's we're not uh that's not a scoop people just in case you're listening to this in october and you're like oh christ they're coming back um they may they very may well be i just edited the bob episode and you know i sort of teased him because he's like we're done after south america and i was like come on come on yeah i'll believe you're done when i when when you're done yeah but um enough about me back to you uh i'm curious about the lola performance like so you got to see them in a government isn't intimate but it's nice um and then you got to see them in um lollapalooza in front of a big crowd what do you think of the the festival version of pavement well i mean obviously it's well documented that they didn't have the best time on that tour on some level uh in slow century there's obviously the the fracas uh you know uh where people are throwing mud at them and all sorts of a rock at steven actually uh you know i i was a kid i mean that was sensory overload i i was just going to how old was I? So 95 I was had I even turned.Track 3:[13:08] Yeah, I was not even, what was I, seven, 16 or something like that? I don't know. I was not an old, I was young. You were 76? No, wait a minute. Yeah, I was 17. So I was born, no, I was born in 77. So I hadn't yet turned 18. So I was 17. And yeah, it was just, that was a bonkers year, to be honest with you. That summer, I went to everything. I went to so many festivals.Track 3:[13:31] For all my bellyaching about my parents not letting me do stuff, they let me do a lot of stuff that summer so uh yeah i don't i think i was just overwhelmed by how many people were surrounding me and and and i got up as close as i could for pavement um and we got up really close like seeing the jesus lizard was a bit i love the jesus lizard already at that point i just love them and to see them was like they were larger than life and you know yeah for those who've never seen them or footage of them at that point, Yao would come into the crowd, you know, he would leap off the stage and crowd surf and all that kind of stuff and sing while he was doing it. So it was very immersive. And then Pavement, relatively the opposite, you know, they're on stage and the songs are great and they played well, as I recall. But on some level, I remember just making a point of getting up as close as possible and trying not to, at the same time, you know, be conscious of not bothering people as you move your way up, you know, because I was kind of annoyed at everyone running around and pushing their way forward and all that stuff. So, uh... Never made sense to me. Yeah, it just... That's my main memory of just, like, trying to... I was probably... For the Jesus Lizard and Pavement, I was probably... That was the closest I was probably, uh, to the stage. And, uh... And then otherwise, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have...Track 3:[14:57] I have a real sense memory of the Phoenix show for Bright in the Corners for a few reasons. And I've talked about them with Bob, at least.Track 3:[15:05] Bob did an interpolation of a Cool Keith song, which I just, I was like, oh, I didn't know people knew about Cool Keith. Like I had only started listening to Cool Keith at that time. And he did. I have no clue. blue cool keith is a a really uh innovative uh underground hip-hop superstar he was in a group called ultra magnetic mcs and then he went solo as dr octagon and as cool keith has all these pseudonyms and uh to be precise uh and oh yeah black elvis like he had all these cool names so to be precise i believe as i recall bob was quoting dr the dr octagon project and he just did it in the middle of a song and then also the other thing that occurred to me and it's sort of relevant to the song today is during uh stereo when steven malcolm is saying the lines about getty lee and his voice being so high he shot his voice up super high like a comically high effect how did it get so like just pitch perfect super high i think it's i think it's documented in a much music interview that they did that day or whatever, like while they were in town. And then obviously afterwards, they interspersed some live footage of the band playing.Track 3:[16:26] And Stephen singing, you know, on this song that we're here to talk about today is so remarkable to me. And I remember that I had this sense memory of him singing that and thinking it was very amusing. I thought it was more amusing than impressive at the time. but over over time as i um have come to value steven's singing voice and his range and his ability, And just instincts as a singer, I view it as more impressive now than, I still think it's funny because I think he's got a comical element to his choices and certainly live anything can happen, but they were just, I think that Bright in the Corner show is the, it's certainly one of the best shows I've ever seen. So I would also say it's one of the, if not the, it was the best time I saw Pavement probably. Oh, that's a great venue. That's what I, that's, I think the Phoenix is phenomenal. I don't want to discount the reunion show I saw because I think with age and time away from each other, they actually have, I don't know, I don't know how many reunion shows you've seen, but often I find that these bands that, particularly for us, you know, the bands around in the 90s, when they come back, they're better. Yeah. They seem more at ease with themselves as people and as players.Track 3:[17:45] And so the absence, I don't know what it is. They just seem more relaxed. And I think when you're more relaxed, you play better. I think 20-something angst, we'll call it. I think if you're not relaxed with each other, you don't play as well. You're just a little uptight. And then as you sort of resign yourself to, well, not resign yourself, but as you sort of get, yeah, you let go of things. I guess that is a way of putting it. You kind of let go of any little grudges and you don't have that angst, whether it's your own or whether it's about yourself or whether it's interpersonal. And I think you just play better. So when I saw the Jesus Lizard on the reunion tour, having seen them several times in the 90s, I just was like, I think they're better. You know, they might be better. better and pavement as i recall from the toronto island show it felt good they played so well you know together um but up until that point yeah i would say that bright in the corners show i saw at.Track 3:[18:46] The phoenix in toronto was just like they were just on fire it was brilliant so yeah cool yeah well before we get into song number 18 i gotta ask you as one of the only people i know that has interviewed Mark Eibold, the reclusive Mark Eibold, how the hell did you do it? And that interview, by the way, was phenomenal. It was great.Track 3:[19:09] Well, that's very kind of you to say. I have to draw back on my memory for this. So the occasion was the Terror Twilight reissue from a year or two or a couple of years ago, whenever it was. Yeah, who knows? And like you, I think my social entry point into this band is Bob Mstanovich.Track 3:[19:32] Absolutely. So Bob is, uh, I've gone on record saying this to others. I think I said it maybe to him during our terror twilight discussion. Bob is the greatest podcast guest of all time. You don't even have to ask him a question and he starts. He's so funny and he's so frank and he says things that I surprised he might say. I love him so much and he's been very kind to me over the years as well. I first spoke with Bob, uh around the time of that reunion uh tour um uh and so what was that 2009 10 thank you very much yeah sorry i think the jesus lizard was 2009 so yeah i spoke to bob around that period and then we've maintained contact basically ever since that was for my college radio show actually and then so that was here in toronto yes that's right yeah well i lived when i was living in ontario at at the time. Um, I had a college radio show and would play some pavement and Bob was a guest on that show. And he's, and I probably wrote a magazine article for exclaim magazine as well. That's what I do and used to do more often. Anyway. Um.Track 3:[20:43] Yeah. So the Tara Twilight thing came about by this point, Bob and I had, he'd been on my podcast a few times. And so I just, I'm sure I went through the proper channels to get, try to figure out the interview and get the music and the, and you know, all the assets and all that. But Bob, I think I was like, Bob, like, can we get everyone? Let's just get everyone on the show. Probably like you have done, like you just, you know, you're, you're trying to do this now. You're trying to talk to as many of the members as you possibly can. Absolutely. And in the loop. So, yeah, you know, I'm emailing Stephen and I think I texted Stephen because, you know, he wasn't responding.Track 3:[21:22] And so we sort of landed on Westy and Bob and Mark and then Jesper, who was involved in the reissue for Matador, was going to take part. And then at the day of, Mark couldn't do it. He was in transit. He couldn't join us for the group call. But yeah, Bob connected us over email, I believe, and maybe text, I don't recall. And so Mark and I, Mark felt, I think, kind of badly that he couldn't do it, like that he said he would do it and that he didn't end up doing it. And uh i i assume bob vouched for me you know um and so that was kind of it uh really we corresponded uh he felt badly that he couldn't make the group call we arranged a time we had a good talk you heard it uh and then i believe i put it out the right after i had put out that that group call uh so back to back it was like pavement week on my show for terror twilight light. Um, so, uh, yeah, I don't, can't recall cause I do so many of these, uh.Track 3:[22:37] Exactly what mark and i talked about i think we talked about some of his, radio listening habits you did yes he still uses a radio yeah you might actually have a better perspective on it than me at this point because i just don't remember uh you know i jd i'm sure you're familiar with this you do so many of them uh interviews uh episodes you're just like oh yeah, i forgot i had so and so on the show what the hell did we talk about again i that happens to me all the time when i edit i'll be listening and i'll be like it sounds like a conversation between somebody who doubles my voice and my guests because i don't recall virtually anything about what we talked about well i remember realizing it was um a real kind of rarity for mark to do such a thing i think at the time um a sonic youth uh archival compilation had had just come out that mark appeared on so there's just a fair amount to talk about it was a lot of memory jogging unfortunately for him like you know trying to remember the terror twilight sessions trying to remember playing with sonic youth like all about a decade out from doing it you know or more a decade or more 20 years um so uh yeah i i he was very lovely and uh and forthcoming and um.Track 3:[23:59] I really appreciate it. I think I've spoken to everyone but Gary, I suppose. I never got a chance to speak to Gary Young. But in terms of the, I guess, whatever, core or original lineup, yeah, I've talked to all of them at some points in my life. And I hope to talk to them again.Track 3:[24:20] Yeah, I do adore them. So it's, yeah. You can tell. You can really tell. And we should have said this off the top, but Viche is, Creative Control is a podcast, if you haven't listened to it, you should listen to it. If you like music, if you're maybe a bit obsessive about music, Viche does a really phenomenal job of, you know, conversations with famous people. People uh for people who listen to this show you might want to start with some of the david berman stuff because it's it's pretty spectacular and uh and then work your way through the pavement but it's all it's all good from the stuff that i've heard for sure well thank you for the kind words and for saying so yeah i uh i do love doing the show and uh it has uh you know it's granted me access and insight, uh, to, and from people I really, truly admire and adore. And, uh, yeah, I marvel at, uh, what I've been able to, uh, accomplish and get away with, uh, it is, it is, I don't really understand it, but certain people like Bob and others, uh, uh, have a fondness for me and return to the show and all that sort of stuff. And, uh, so yeah, it means a lot. Thanks for saying that. No, no, I should have said it off the top. but uh what do you say we talk about the the song this week song number 18 let's do it okay we'll be back right after this hey.Track 1:[25:48] This is bob mistanovich from pavement uh thanks for listening and now on with a countdown 18.Track 3:[29:27] So today we're talking all about song number 18 from the masterpiece Wowie Zowie. It's the absolutely gorgeous Father to a Sister of Thought. Vish, what are your initial thoughts about this song? Well, you know, I was so happy that we landed on this as a song to talk about because I do love Wowie Zowie. I have a sense memory of picking it up when it came out. I think the day it came out. um and um obviously a strange sort of a strange record uh an eclectic record uh and this is interesting it's a really fascinating song because in some ways it's super accessible uh musically it leans with the pedal steel and some of the other moves it leans towards country music.Track 3:[30:18] I will say, as I was pondering it, I mean, I know we are in a vacuum here of people who love Pavement and who love Stephen Malcomus, but as I was listening to this in preparation for our chat, I'm like, Malcomus is like an underrated everything. I really feel that way. And in particular, I think he's a remarkable singer. And, you know.Track 3:[30:51] And this song, I think, exemplifies that. He makes super fascinating choices with his phrasing, I think, and just the notes he's going to go for on words. Like, I don't know how to put it. I'm not super adept at maybe talking about music on that level. But it's just very dynamic, the way he shoots his voice up and sort of speaks, sings one line.Track 3:[31:17] And I think aside from missing his sort of grittiness, he also is a great screamer, great yeller. He really is. Like Paul McCartney level dynamic range, I think, with Steven when he wants to. Like he can sing. I don't know if that resonates with you. Like McCartney, to me, can sing anything. He can sing a ballad. He can sing like a Little Richard Rocker and sound like a punk. Like it's bonkers, that guy's vocal range. And I think Malcomus is in that, totally in that vein. So he's not yelling on this song but i think if anyone is interested like this song is a perfect showcase for what he can do as a vocalist and before i go much further jd does that resonate with you it certainly does i when i think of this song you know the word i used right off the bat was gorgeous uh and it's gorgeous in a number of ways the vocal the melody uh like his ability as a songwriter. I don't know how much of the arranging he did, or if it was Easley who said, let's use this pedal steel.Track 3:[32:25] But nevertheless, it just works so well with the timbre of his voice. And it all comes together in a really lovely ball.Track 3:[32:36] Yeah, and I think the little contrarian aspect to, or I don't know how to describe it, this little element of, yeah, it's a little contrary, I think, you know, I don't think I'm saying anything untoward where there's an element of self-sabotage sometimes in the pavement realm where everything's going fine, and then all of a sudden, let's pull the plug and do something wild and nuts or crazy, you know what I mean? And then yeah so this song has this really jaunty country vibe and then it ends with this like, minimalist noise rock stomp damn yeah yeah yeah like it gets it suddenly becomes a little more punk after the sort of so it's kind of this and it's all part of this it's that end it has nothing to do with anything else we've heard no instrumentally nothing but it works like it works so perfectly and i think it's a way of being like all right i think i think we're getting a little saccharin here it's too gentle or something let's end a little more raucous and uh so to me i hadn't really pondered it as such before but between malchumus i think singing his ass off and and really showing his range uh the band also ends up playing very dynamically and really beautifully and and also grit like as i say there's some grit towards the end so in a weird way.Track 3:[34:03] And again i hadn't thought of it like this was a single as i recall um like there was a video for it and whatnot and they're all dressed up in like country western garb and all these sorts of things, but uh no it's a nice exemplification like this is a pretty good gateway in the pavement if you were like yeah listen to this song again you never heard of this band try this song just try it it's got humor it's enigmatic lyrically the arrangement itself is beautiful but funny uh yeah i i really think uh 18 this should be in the top five it's really wonderful wow yeah i would have it in my top 10 yeah i know you top 10 sure i don't know what these ratings mean i don't believe in ratings and awards but it's water cooler talk no it's i'm just saying as i think about it more first of all uh anyone out there listening uh once i dig into a topic i get a little excitable. So, uh, you can make the argument like, what about these other 10 songs? And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, those are also great. But this, this to me, I think, as I say, it's got a nice balance of earnestness, irreverence, beautiful singing, wonderful playing. Uh, yeah, I just think all across the board, it's beautiful. Yeah. Uh, well said.Track 3:[35:20] When you think back to buying Wowie Zowie, you said you got it on the day it came out. First of all, that's very cool.Track 3:[35:29] And second of all, I wonder, just to go on a tangent for a moment.Track 3:[35:34] I wonder if your penchant for B-sides helped you with that record. Because it's almost constructed to me where there's like a song and then more of a b-side song than a song than more of a b-side song uh you know i'm thinking like brink's job and and and stuff like that um yeah you know so that that would have really helped but what were you thinking the first time and this is asking you to really stretch your brain i apologize but what were you thinking the first time you heard this song on this wicked roller coaster ride of a record you know what it's i know this song gets come or rather the album why always how he gets compared a lot to the white album sure by the beatles um who are from liverpool uh and are no longer around but they were uh that album was um i think it's rightly regarded as this uh odd pastiche niche of sounds and ideas and somehow it it only coheres because contextually they made it cohere like it doesn't really make a ton of sense as an album but it's one of those albums where like i couldn't tell you what the best song on it is because i almost view it conceptually as a whole Oh, wow. Wow. So, there's some of it, like, you can, there are singles from it and whatnot.Track 3:[37:01] But I have a weird, this is more about me, I suppose, JD, than maybe most people, but like, I'm an albums person. So, when an artist or a band puts out an album, I assume, rightly or wrongly, in some cases it's not the case, but I assume it's a unified statement that they're making of a time, of.Track 3:[37:25] Rolling Stones, certain bands, you'll be like, yeah, this album is actually like odds and sods from the previous couple of albums that they just reworked or whatever, revisited. Um, and they still count as albums, you know, certainly Stones in the seventies, you can make that argument. There's a few records where, yeah, like just what I'm describing, it's an album, but it's really like leftovers from some ideas they had. Um, I would put Wowie Zowie in that white album category of like, it's a whole thing. Like, the way it's sequenced, the way songs blend together.Track 3:[38:04] As soon as you hear an artist do that, where the songs kind of barely, there's barely any air between them. Right. That's a sequencing choice. That's a mastering choice. That's all sorts of choices they're making. but there's then tends to be this coherence between them this isn't the case all across wowie zowie but there are songs as you know where it's just the next one just starts you're just right into another song um so it becomes a sort of sweet like thing all this to say uh i might be stalling to answer your question because i haven't listened to the whole album in some time this is going to prompt me to i listened to this song on its own and i will say it was a bit weird.Track 3:[38:48] To hear it on its own because i don't listen to pavement sorry as i've tried to just maybe exemplify i generally don't listen to um bands i got a friend pointed out to me a few years ago he was we were in a band together and he said yeah you once said you don't like greatest hits compilations i said i said that said yeah we were driving we were listening to like acdc or something and you were just it came up in conversation and you said you don't like greatest hits compilations because the context of the music is all out of order and i said right that makes sense to me yeah you're i said yeah okay i don't remember saying that sometimes i say things and i don't remember that i said them and i said oh yeah well i mean i said i said it and it stuck with him like he said yeah i've started to listen that way now because you're right like the context of an album is so important to it so when you asked me to be on the show and and suggested uh you know that we were going to talk about this particular song i just listened to it on its own.Track 3:[39:52] Totally weird. Totally weird to hear it out of the album context. So I think going back to my sense memory, I don't know. I mean, it starts with We Dance, which is weird. And then you're right. Some of the songs seem, I mean, to some people, they would seem like half finished ideas. That's right. Right. Or just like little jabs of things, you know. So you're absolutely right too, like Serpentine Pad, Brink's Job, those sound like they could be B-sides, but I would argue that the pavement B-sides are never really, they don't feel like throwaways to me. I agree. Sometimes they're a little looser and more fun, like things happen and that you wouldn't really hear. No I don't even you know what I'm just going to retract that I think they are all fully.Track 3:[40:48] Realized songs that stand on their own but yeah Wowie Zowie I suppose might have been the first sort of inkling that this band could do anything and they weren't afraid to try anything, I'm sure some people were disappointed after Crooked Rain Crooked Rain to hear this, band be a little more punk but also as we're talking about a song that like I say who knows I don't know I I've not really thought about this in a long time but I'm sure making the construction of wowie zowie and the sequencing was potentially a reaction to how much success and how they broke through with crooked rain.Track 3:[41:34] Yeah, I can get behind that thought because, I mean, it's almost outlined in Cut Your Hair, right? Yeah. That's sort of the blueprint for Wowie Zowie in a way. Yeah, like not deliberately self-sabotaging themselves, but being like, we're maybe a little too big. Let's do something a little less accessible. Like, let's do something a little more. I just want to be clear. I think it's brilliant. I don't find it confusing. But if you got into Cut Your Hair or Gold Sounds or got into that band that you saw freak out on The Tonight Show, you know... And then listen to Pueblo. Yeah, yeah. I think you're kind of like... Yeah. You would just be like, as a band, I doubt it was even conscious, but maybe it was. Maybe we should do something that's a little more like wild. And if that was the case, I'm not sure it was, I'm sure there's literature and I should have maybe revisited some of the liner notes and reissues and things to read about where their mindset was at. But, you know, even describing father to a sister of thought, it has that mix of totally, totally accessible. I could play this for my country music loving grandfather, but then it ends with like, Hey, grandpa, we're still kind of a punk band. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.Track 3:[43:02] Oh, that's great. Going back to the theory of potentially sabotaging themselves, which I'm with you, I don't think they did it on purpose.Track 3:[43:13] I almost think it's like a sound and style change. You're right, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain was so accessible, and it had a familiar sound. It had sort of a California classic rock kind of vibe to it. It crooked rain is i will interject only to say that i think crooked rain is also super weird.Track 3:[43:35] It is it helped them break through but it is a weird album like it starts weird it has like a full studio sound like it sounds like i know that was made in a bit of a patchwork as well but like it sounds more like a studio record um sure they went they went to a place that that it wasn't going to be noisy and hissy and ambient even though it has elements of that like it has a warmth to it but it's a weird and wildly arranged album too but this is even well coming off a slant coming off a slanted though it seems it just seems more you know readily available i suppose to to a wider birth of people yeah but what i was going to say is it almost reminds me of what sm did when he went solo that first record is so accessible and so poppy and so hooky and so earwormy it's amazing and then he did piglib after that which i fucking adore but it's so off the wall compared to the self-titled debut yeah and if we're viewing malcolm as you know uh obviously obviously the main driver of of their songs then yeah it's it's his whims and it's his.Track 3:[44:50] His notions for a batch of songs like you know i think bright in the corners is uh on some level it's the cleanest sounding pavement album but it's also the most esoteric and and you know i the songs sprawl and they're all over the place as well but it's also somehow more coherent and contained than wowie zowie like but but the songs stretch out that's their what did we talk about with somebody recently uh maybe it was with the pavement guys uh grateful dead type stuff yeah sure yeah like it it has a it's it's a little more zen it's less frenetic even though the imagery and whatnot is pretty intense and some of the arrangements are too so yeah i think it's just modes again this goes back to my argument i love albums i love knowing that we're hearing where a band was at, at that given time. Uh, and, and that, that batch of songs, however, like wowie zowie, however disparate the songs might be from one another, that's what they were into. Like, that's what was going on with them at the time, whether it had anything to do with external considerations or perceptions about who they were, uh, how successful they wanted to be. Like Like, that might just be all bullshit I'm making up. It could just be that's just what he had, what Malcomus and what the band had going.Track 3:[46:18] And this is it. You know, why waste it? This is, it's all over the place. Let's put it out as one thing. The next album, a little, like, I think it's, it's fair to say, uh, Bright in the Corners. Well, you know, maybe it's not fair to say, I'll ask you. Bright in the Corners, probably safe to say a more coherent sounding album than Why We Sowie. Absolutely. Yeah. It's, it's a more album-y album. Right. In a sense. But I also think Slanton and Enchanted all sounds like it's from the same expression, too. Sure, I guess I mean album to album. I just love the way it opens. There's a middle, and then there's an end. There's a finite end with Finn. Yeah yeah well i mean maybe i don't know like we we mentioned lollapalooza uh there was something going on in the in the moment in the cultural moment where you it was really cool to be an open-ended music listener it was really cool to be like yes we're playing with a folk musician we're playing with shanae o'connor and cypress hill on the same day bonkers and the jesus lizard like on some level that is a culture saying everyone is welcome every sound has merit.Track 3:[47:34] We're sick of the orthodoxies we're sick of there being camps um and so maybe wowie zowie reflects that too uh on a musical level it can be noise damaged it can be a beautiful if strange folk song, it can be a country song, it can be a goddamn screamer where Malcolm clearly loses his voice you know, on Half a Canyon or whatever. Like, it's.Track 3:[48:01] Yeah, as we speak of it, I love that album. And like I say, though, I'm having trouble decontextualizing this song from the whole. Right. And that's more about me. But if we really dial into it, when I say this is a good exemplification of Pavement as a whole, maybe it's a good exemplification of Wowie Zowie as a whole. It has that beauty and thoughtful lyricism where you're like, what's he talking about? What's going on? this is really interesting imagery. Is he talking about Corpus Christi, Texas? Or is he talking about Corpus Christi, the kind of event? Like, I remember just thinking right away, why is he singing about Texas? Like, I have that sense memory. And I have this song and some, I'm just a man. Like, I have just little bits of lyrics that are just always with me that I just hum to myself. And yeah, I, this is one of those songs where I just have sort of mindlessly sung it out loud to myself as i'm sort of tooling around my my life you know i don't know if you have that where you just have these lyrical lyrical fragments but this is definitely one of those songs.Track 3:[49:08] And uh i think um yeah it exemplifies both the band and the album in a really fascinating way for me cool well is there anything you want to say uh more about father to a sister of thought or, well you know i'm a lyrics guy and we didn't uh have a chance to get too far into it but i also i know that i mean it's on the surface it seems to be about spirituality and uh people's relationships to that but with malcolm is also you never really know um on some level i think he's spoken about this song and whatnot but um no i don't know all i'll say is i marvel at the guy and i don't think uh he's one of these people i don't think we marvel at enough as a guitar player as a musician as a as a lyricist and particularly on this song as a singer and i hope uh this isn't uh some people don't find this to be a hyperbole but you know i think we take him for granted as He's a vocalist, and this is a great example of what he can do.Track 3:[50:15] Agreed. Well, Vish, it's been dynamite to talk to you today. We went off on a few different directions, and I'm glad we got to do that. Do you want to talk a little bit more about you and the podcast? And I want to say right off the bat that I said it earlier, Creative Control, it's with K's, Creative Control. So if you're searching for it on the Google, you're going to want to spell it correctly. Correctly well thank you thank visha style of correctly well i will uh immediately say that this is a reference to a hot snake song of the same name creative control um so that's why i didn't make up the case thing and now there's like a fashion company called creative control and i think someone like fashions themselves a rapper and they call themselves creative control but they kind of show up and they don't show up i don't know what's going on but anyway yeah that's my show i mean on the internet they'll be like tweeting ramp like rabidly and then they just disappear. And then I don't know what's going on. Anyway. Yeah. Nothing to do. I, Hey, I copped the name from a band I like, so I can't really complain. Complain spelled with a K by the way.Track 3:[51:23] So, uh, yeah, I have this podcast and as we're speaking, uh, you know, it's, it's still going, uh, and it's more important to me than ever because, uh, it is now my main, job at the moment as maybe by October it won't be, but, um.Track 3:[51:41] Yeah, so all I can say is if you support the work of people like me and JD and want to support podcasters, crowdfunding, I don't know about you, JD, and we don't have to talk too much shop, but the advertising revenue is very minimal and it's honestly a little gross. No offense to your sponsors.Track 3:[52:01] I'd rather just not have it. Yeah, I'd rather not have it. But yeah, the crowdfunding and the Patreon that I have is particularly important to me at the moment. So I have different incentives and different tiers and all that kind of stuff, like pay tiers, and it's flexible and monthly and all that kind of stuff. So sorry to make this about the money. We've already talked about some of the content or whatever, like the people I talked to. Yeah, I'm proud of it. It seems to be relentless. It's never going to stop unless I do and stop making it. That sounded morbid. uh by the way if i die the show will likely die too i i just want to be clear about that but no i i love doing the show it's afforded me um some wonderful experiences and both in the conversations and then just from people like you jd reaching out wanting to talk i mean it means a lot to me so thank you for giving me a time to some time to plug and thank you for having me on this wonderful show of yours and for the the lovely conversation it means a lot yeah for me Me too. Thank you so much. All right, everybody, that's what we've got today. So be cool. Make sure you're safe and wash your goddamn hands.Track 1:[53:15] Thanks for listening to Meeting Malcolmists, a pavement podcast where we count down the top 50 pavement tracks as selected by you. If you've got questions or concerns, please shoot me an email. JD at MeetingMalcolmists.com. You.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week on the ole Pavement top 50 podcast, jD welcomes Amir from Providence to talk all about his Pavement origin story and to breakdown song 28!Transcript:Track 1:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50. Oh, I love this song so much. It's a song, I hadn't, it wasn't on my first wave of songs to study, even though I knew we were going to play it. But it wasn't, like, you know, there were other songs I felt like I had to nail more. So this was towards the end. I said, okay, let me get into this type slow jam. Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band.Track 3:[0:24] And you're listening to The Countdown. Hey it's shay d here back for another episode of our top 50 countdown for seminal indie rock band pavement week over week we're going to count down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballots i then tabulated the results using an abacus and the kid from the sixth sense wait a minute am i dead how will your favorite song fare in the rankings. You'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that. This week, I'm joined by pavement superfan Amir from Providence. Amir, how the fuck are you? Hello, I'm calling from Providence, Rhode Island, and I'm very fine. Life is good. Excellent. That is good news. It's great to have you here. Let's just not beat around the bush. Let's get right into this. What is your Or pavement origin story. So that's a long origin story. So I live in Providence, Rhode Island, as I mentioned. By the way, cheers. This is local. Cheers. Watery domestic beer from Rhode Island. Narragansett Atlantic-like lager. So...Track 3:[1:37] A little plug for Atlantic Light Lager. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, that's very watery. Anyway, so I was not born here. I was born in Moscow, not Moscow, Idaho. Moscow, Soviet Union, which is more or less the same thing as Russia. And I grew up there in the 80s. And I loved music since I was, I don't know, since I remember myself. I started playing piano when I was four. So I listened to a lot of music it was also the 1980s were an exciting time for rock music in Russia because Russia was like after many decades of like complete censorship it was starting to open up and, rock music suddenly became legal so it was possible to listen to that, if you if this makes you curious I recommend everybody listen to the Wind of Change podcast It's just an amazing story. Oh, it's amazing. I've listened to it. Yes, it's brilliant. So, but, yeah, so I started, like, loving rock music when I was, like, a child. But we are a Jewish family, so we moved to Israel in 1991.Track 3:[2:52] And even though Russia was opening up back then, Israel was, like, always a very open country, open to everything. So we had MTV, or more precisely, we had MTV Europe, which is not exactly the same thing. Uh mtv like in the united states and mtv europe it's not exactly the same thing mtv europe has a lot of uh uk uh bias and uh like because it broadcasted from the uk uh and uh it's it also tried to incorporate some other european music like italian or german but it was mostly like very uk biased so that's when i was growing up mtv was uh important it was like there was no youtube YouTube kind of replaced MTV now but MTV was important culturally like hugely important not just for myself but for a lot of other people, but initially when I started like watching it it was kind of boring at least during the day but then during the night it got much more exciting because they started like after midnight, they started playing much more interesting stuff and there was a show called Alternative Nation I think it was every Tuesday on MTV Europe and they played stuff like Sonic Youth and Pavement and European what you would say alternative bands, like whatever alternative even means.Track 3:[4:18] I tried to figure out what does it even mean that it's alternative? Is it a certain guitar sound? It actually doesn't mean much at all. It's just rock music that is cooler than Bon Jovi. Well, what's funny, it was alternative to the mainstream and then it became the mainstream. Exactly. Like, if you look back at this, like, it was totally the mainstream. Like, Nirvana was alternative, but it was already quite the mainstream back in 1992. And by now, it's completely mainstream. But, you know, whatever. Names of things are sometimes funny. So, yeah. And they mentioned pavement occasionally. Now, initially, they mentioned, I didn't really dig it. Like I remember, I definitely remember they showed Cut Your Hair, of course. They never showed it during the day. They showed it late at night.Track 3:[5:12] I didn't really understand it. I was like, it just looked weird. And these days, I look at the Cut Your Hair video, and now I'm a Dan and I have children, and they look at it and they just think it's funny with the gorilla and the lizard. Yes. And I was just overthinking it totally. Like I was 15 years old. why what does what does this mean i was totally overthinking it um but yeah they should cut your hair and they i remember they showed the gold sounds video um maybe also yeah rattled by the rush like the weird the weird version with the bathtub okay didn't really understand like what's the deal with that so i did love like i did love a lot of other alternative bands like i loved sonic youth i loved therapy if you if you heard that's a band from northern ireland uh i love the, alternative, rock band, whatever that means.Track 3:[6:03] Anyway, so then I graduated high school. And as pretty much everybody else in Israel, I got drafted to the military. Now, what you don't hear, you often hear about the Israeli military on the news. What you don't hear about the Israeli military is that most people there, they don't do combat and wars and stuff like that. It's just, I work with computers And that's like what most people do. They work with, you know, cars, equipment, computers, whatever. I worked with computers. And I had a friend there. And that friend was much cooler than I am. He's probably still to this day much cooler than I am. And he had many more CDs than I had. And he knew alternative music like way better than I had. I did know Sonic Youth. Sonic Youth, which is another Samuel band. I did know Sonic Youth much better than he did. But other than that, he was like the huge expert. He taught me about cool bands like Mogwai and Mercury Rev and a bunch of others. And he taught me about pavement.Track 3:[7:08] And he gave me the Wowie Zowie CD to listen. Interesting. And I was immediately hooked. That was just incredible. So like from the first seconds of We Dance, oh my God, how did I miss that? We Dance is such a brilliant song. I'm just thinking about this. I will make this really weird comparison, but it kind of makes sense to me. Because like I mentioned that I play piano. I played piano for many years, like almost 40 years now. Oh my God. I'm old. And I...Track 3:[7:43] There's another band called Guns N' Roses. There is. Which is nowhere near as cool as Pavement. Nowhere near. But that's like the not-alternative thing that they were showing a lot on MTV. And I couldn't feel like, why are so many people excited about this band? And then I saw November Rain, which, ooh, it has piano. Piano is classy. So it's classy. It doesn't... No, I'm not comparing. I'm not comparing Guns N' Roses to Pavement, but We Dance had the piano, piano is classy. And so I heard like, Ooh, that's a much like, that's such an interesting song. And I absolutely loved it. And I loved the rest of the album as hectic and eclectic as it is and extremely long. I saw it described somewhere as three six-song EPs or six three-song EPs. That's probably the... That's an interesting way to look at it. Yeah, I saw it described like that somewhere. It's a very weird album, but it's so great. It's absolutely like all of it. I love it. And then I heard the rest of it from that friend. And he gave me like Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain, and Brighten the Corners.Track 3:[9:10] And later I just bought them all myself. So slanted, of course. So I have them all twice because they released them with the usual version and then the Lux and Redux and all those. LA Desert, they expanded. So I have them all twice.Track 3:[9:27] Yeah. And yeah, so that's kind of my pavement origin story. And yeah, and I became a super fan, I guess, around 98 or 99. Wow. So you got to experience Terror Twilight when it came out. That one you got to experience, right? In real time? Yep. What did you think of that at the time? It was very different. I did love it. I loved all the songs. I listened to it a lot back then.Track 3:[9:57] It's very different it's very different from if I really have I don't want to but if I really have to pick a favorite album it would probably be Crooked Rain Crooked Rain I really love them all but Terror Twilight is very different, has its own style unlike Wawizawi which has like 20 different styles but yeah, Terror Twilight definitely has a certain and particular.Track 3:[10:25] Integrated feel to it. Yeah, I would agree. So did you ever get a chance to see them live? Yeah. So first time I saw something related to Pavement, it was not Pavement. And it was not Malcolm's solo. It was a show in Israel, in Tel Aviv, in 2004. It was a tribute show, like a bunch of local Israeli bands played a tribute show to Pavement and Malcolm's. Really? It was pretty brilliant. Yeah. Israel has like a very varied music scene. Okay. Rock of all kinds of styles and jazz. I know nothing about it. It's not that known around the world, but it has a very rich, vibrant music scene. Mostly sang in Hebrew, but occasionally in English. So that show had bands singing mostly in English. Like I remember a band that I really loved, they performed Gold Sounds.Track 3:[11:27] And here, I think, uh, that's like, that, that's how I, that's how I found out about that show that like, there was a band that I, that I love. They, they, that band used to be called blush and lure back then. And they sang in English later. They changed the name of the band and they started singing in Hebrew, but, but back then they were singing in English and, uh, yeah. So they performed two songs there. I think it's definitely gold sounds and probably here. Here and uh yeah there was a bunch of other bands and like some of them did like very similar versions to the original some of them completely reworked them as like punk songs some of them translated the lyrics to hebrew like there was a i think it was father to a sister of thought they completely translated it to hebrew that was that was fun so anyway uh yeah that was a cool show. The second time I saw something pavement related was in 2010.Track 3:[12:23] 2010, that was the first big reunion in New York, in Central Park. That was a brilliant show. It's actually possible that you and I went to the same show. Yes, I know. Yeah. And yeah, I absolutely loved it. I think, like you mentioned a couple of times on your podcast, that, how did you describe it? That they seemed tired or something like that?Track 3:[12:48] Yeah, they just didn't seem into it. You know, the same way they did on this newer tour. Maybe, um, maybe I, I was absolutely excited about this. Oh, me too. At least, at least the part, they also seemed like very excited. Uh, the Stanowich was like ecstatic, uh, eyeballed, uh, who is like, usually very like quiet and, uh, serious. He was actually quite chatty on the stage. I remember, like, I remember him speaking to New York and how cool, like he's, he's from New York and how cool New York is and how cool Queens is. He, he mentioned Queens. I don't remember what he's, what did he say exactly, but like, he's like, are there people from Queens or something like that? Like he looked. I don't remember that. Yeah. And he's, he mentioned something like that. So anyway, um, yeah, it was, it was a fantastic show. Such a fantastic show.Track 3:[13:43] Heckler Spray, Summer Babe. Oh, wow. In the Mountain Desert. Uh, just a fantastic, fantastic show. So is the record that you go back to now, like, is it Wowie Zowie when you have a hankering for Pavement, or is it your favorite, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain? I would probably say, it's so hard to say, I would probably say Crooked Rain and Slanted, but I love them all. I love them all. I listen to them all. There was a third Pavement-related thing I saw, and that was Malkmus.Track 3:[14:18] Malcolm's solo I think it was in 2012 or 13 it was the it was it was.Track 3:[14:26] Oh, I'm, I'm blacking out. Which, uh, which, uh, the album with, uh, uh, Senator, uh, which, which album is that? Mirror Traffic? Yes, that one. Uh, yeah. So that was, that was a brilliant show. Uh, that was a really brilliant show. Towards, towards the end, he did, uh, uh, something like, uh, funny, uh, Faith No More impersonation. Really? yeah like towards the end of the show he played he played a couple of famous so he played here and i think uh speaks he remember and uh at one of the songs towards the end they were like the jigs were getting all uh uh in a good mood and uh jamming and at some point they just started started playing um what's the famous faith no more song epic yeah yeah they just I started playing that. That's so cool. Yeah. Anyway, it was a brilliant rock and roll show. So yeah, so these are the three Pavement-related shows I attended. Nice. Well, what do you say we take a quick break and come back and talk about song number 28? Let's do that. Let's do that. Hey, this is Bob Mustanovich from Pavement.Track 1:[15:43] Thanks listening. And now on with a countdown. 28.Track 3:[20:18] Song number 28 on the countdown comes from Crooked Rain. Crooked Rain, amazingly, it's the first song from their sophomore effort to appear on this list. You can exhale now because track 28 is Stop Breathing. Amir. Yeah. What are your initial thoughts about this song? I love this song. It appears in my top 20 that I sent you. I think it's number 14 there. so it's, half of your number I know maybe I should have rated it even higher it's like it's a brilliant song it's kind of special I made a bit of homework so it has the, it has if I'm not mistaken I learned music for many years but maybe I'm mistaken about something but almost all Pavement songs have the quadruple rhythm 1, 2, 3, 4 okay this one is Because the correct term here is probably the six-eighths rhythm. Oh, okay. One, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three.Track 3:[21:27] So there are not a lot of pavement songs in this rhythm. On the studio albums, it's just Our Singer and Stop Breathing. And half of Fight This Generation, the beginning of Fight This Generation. Oh, okay. The rest, and well, there's also 5-4 equals Unity, which begins in 5-4ths. And then I think actually the chorus is also in 3-4ths or 6-8ths. And the rest of the pavement, well, in all the kinds of B-sides and bonus tracks, tracks uh there are a bunch of uh um six eighths uh songs uh mercy snack kentucky cocktail so stark sagano stray fire um and yeah that's about it you did do your homework i did do my homework there's also kneeling bus uh also known as rugrat which is a very weird beat that i couldn't completely understand a very very cool one uh but it's like it's neither four neither three but yeah so that's so it's pretty.Track 3:[22:36] It's pretty unique relatively unique in that regard it's beautifully placed in the track list at the third third spot kind of a different mood between like the big rockers the, uh elevate me later and uh cut your hair yeah so that one has a different mood it has very beautiful uh guitar sound uh throughout the song and especially of course towards the end, um so yeah i absolutely love the song one of the best they the pavement has very, pretty much no songs that uh i would like say that they are bad but this this one is really one one of the best so what's your relationship with this song uh crooked rain crooked rain you said is your favorite record so what do you remember about the first time you heard this song or.Track 3:[23:33] Something like that so so this was the this was the second album i heard uh after wavy zowie and it's relatively much more uh much more of a straightforward rock straight absolutely relatively, compare it compared to wawi especially the first song like it gets a bit weirder towards the end but uh the beginning of it it's like it's a relatively very straightforward i agree.Track 3:[23:58] In a classic rock album i i i heard somewhere that uh malcolm called it like disparagingly classic rock like he said that silent kid is a is a classic rock song in like in a not very good way, but he's wrong well it's maybe he was just sarcastic i don't know it was Because Silent Kid is a brilliant song. And Stop Breathing is a brilliant song. It has this really, really beautiful guitar sound and this beat. And it may be, oh my God, this is such a cool rock band with cool melodies. And they do all these things so easily. And it sounds like they were just having fun. But the song, it's kind of somber, kind of solemn, kind of serious. Yeah, I agree. Relatively. It has this special atmosphere. Nevertheless, it feels like while they're playing it, they're having a lot of fun with these guitars. Like, that's a really special guitar sound, especially towards the end. And it gets stronger and stronger.Track 3:[25:08] And oh my God, it's just so beautiful. It's just so inspirational. Yeah. What do you think the song is about? I have no idea. I barely ever listen to lyrics, to be honest. In music, I mostly listen to the melodies and the playing and the arrangements.Track 3:[25:31] Volley. Like, volley has a... It's kind of a... Like, it probably refers to both things. Like, both to the volley in sports. ports and in the war. And that's kind of a menacing word. It's struck by the first volley. So that gets you in a kind of a tragic mood from the start. And then it says, stop breathing. And there's also this alternative version on LA Desert Origins where he says, start bleeding, like stop breathing and then start bleeding. Really? Yeah. I gotta re-listen to LA Desert Origins. My memory is so shit. Oh, well. Yeah. It's like the comment there is that it's from Louder Than You you think, 1993, and it's probably, I don't know, maybe it's a demo, maybe it's not a demo, maybe it was at some point intended to be released. But in the chorus there, he says, stop breathing and then start bleeding, which makes it even more menacing. Yeah.Track 3:[26:46] Yeah. So there's this menacing song, and right after it, there's Cut Your Hair, which is very fun. The exact opposite. The exact opposite.Track 3:[26:55] But menacing, you know, my attitude to music is embodied in a poem that I really love. It was written by a jazz musician who's very old, but he's still alive, I think. His name is Oliver Lake, a jazz saxophone player. And he wrote a poem. And in the poem, he mentions names of many musical artists that he loves. and they're very different artists.Track 3:[27:26] And he's like, and the poem is built like a conversation between himself and the waiter in the restaurant. And then he says, put all the meals in one, put all my meals in one plate. Don't ask me what kind of music I play. I play the good kind. So I like, I actually, I don't care very much about the genres of music and I don't care very much about the mood of a particular song. Like some songs are happy and some songs are sad and some songs are scary like these are all important things but uh eventually i i i judge all songs by like this is the good song or is it not a very good song and uh this song is is of the good kind uh yeah that's that's the really important thing like it like it definitely has a mood uh definitely has a very identifiable probably intentional mood and it's probably placed intentionally in that sequence uh on the album but it definitely has this character.Track 3:[28:25] So this is going to be I think I know the answer to this because.Track 3:[28:31] You've already told me what you rated it on your list but do you think this song is properly rated overrated underrated on the top 50 28 is lowish, I would be very unpleasantly surprised if it was not in the top 50 at all um i like i would probably rate it a bit higher uh maybe it's not my number one song but it's like it's pretty like it's pretty high it's pretty high on my list it's a great song it is absolutely there's nothing to shake a stick at unless it's a complimentary uh stick shaking your dick fun fun fact about uh the tennis part uh the so the song is like you mentioned it uh You mentioned that you read it from those notes that Malthus had in his own songs. And he mentioned tennis himself, so we have it from himself.Track 3:[29:28] I checked it. So I edit Wikipedia quite often in English and in Hebrew and occasionally in other languages. And I checked what is actually Malthus' relation to tennis.Track 3:[29:41] And the English Wikipedia mentions that he loves playing golf and tennis, but he doesn't, Here's where it gets funny. So Wikipedia editors, good, serious Wikipedia editors, try to fact-check everything. And the fact-check in Wikipedia is done by adding footnotes. You may have noticed that Wikipedia has lots of footnotes. So I checked the footnotes. So where it mentions that he plays golf and tennis, it had two footnotes. Both of them were not very good. One of them was a completely dead link. the other one didn't say anything about any sports so I found another source like it's actually a tennis website where he speaks about actually loving tennis so yeah so there's another confirmation that he loves tennis that other tennis website mentioned the song yeah so I improved the English Wikipedia article about Mr. Stephen Maltmes and now it has a better footnote for the tennis information, So, yeah, that's a kind of thing I do for fun. Cool.Track 3:[30:50] Well, it's been really great talking to you today. I'm curious if you have anything that you want to plug or mention for people to look at on the internet or anything that you've created, anything like that. Well not much I'm kind of I'm trying I'm trying to I moved I lived in Israel for many years and I moved to Providence a few months ago my wife is doing an academic project here so we all moved together with the kids.Track 3:[31:21] But I love as I mentioned I love Israeli music I'm, there's not much to plug I'm trying to start a band that would play covers of Israeli songs which is challenging in the united states i it's i'm slowly finding some people to do that but there's not much to say about this right now uh but uh you know you can you can find in the future there might be a band that we can look for hopefully and uh then i would maybe um i would i would probably i would probably mostly play uh covers of israeli music or maybe in the loop on that amir maybe an occasional pavement song what's that keep me in the loop on that shoot me an email when you get it going and I'll talk about it on the pod. I haven't tried that. Maybe an occasional pavement song. Yeah, that would be cool. Well, like I say, it's been a blast spending this time with you today. I really appreciate you doing this heavy lifting on a podcast that is ostensibly yours.Track 3:[32:21] So, thank you very much for that and make sure to wash your goddamn hands.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Love Is The Answer With The CoCreators 27 April Big Party Show This Week With Loads Of New tracks Off The Promo... Shout Out To All The Labels And Producers That Sent Us Music This Week 1. Music Sounds Better With You (Sgt Slick's Melbourne ReCut) 2. Together (Sgt Slick's Melbourne ReCut) 3. Satisfied (Extended Mix) David Penn 4. Forever Always (Anthony Attalla Remix) Gene Farris, DJ Rae 5. You Can Make It (Alaia & Gallo extended remix) Shawn Christopher 6. We Dance (feat Supermini - Club mix) Crush Club 7. Wish I Didn't Miss You (Sgt Slick's Discotizer ReCut) Angie Stone 8. Lose My Mind (Extended Mix) Jamie Jones 9. Spiritual Thing (Extended Mix) Majkol Jay 10. You [Got It All] (Extended Mix) Kokiri & Husky 11. Loving You (Extended Mix) Redfield 12. Somebody Else's Guy (Alex Preston Rework) Jocelyn Brown https://www.facebook.com/OfficialLoveVibrationNation/ https://www.facebook.com/TheCocreators https://soundcloud.com/love-vibration-nation https://thecocreatorsmusic.com/

jD is back and he's with Dan from Rochester to discuss track 39!Transcript:[0:00] Hey, it's JD here, and I just wanted to throw something down, somewhat of a challenge to all you musically inclined folks out there.We are going to be doing a pod list again this year, and a pod list is simply a podcast playlist.It's a pod list. The previous four pod lists have consisted of talented members of our Pavement community submitting songs that they have covered from the Pavement Ouvra.Pavement adjacent songs are also welcome. So you could do PSOI, you could do Jicks, you could do Malcolm is Solo.Anything is fair game, truly. So get your band together or grab an acoustic guitar and just play your fucking guts out.From there, submit the song to me by email and we'll go from there.So please submit those songs, jd at meetingmalkmus.com, or even better, use wetransfer.com if it's a big WAV file. And WAV files are what I prefer.That will work out just magnificently. That's what she said.Podlist 5 coming July 8th, so get those songs in and be a part of something special. Thanks so much.Now, on with the show. Previously on the.Track 2:[1:26] Pavement Top 50 So Cam from Toronto What do you think Of Starlings of the Slipstream This is a great little song I love I love this song just as a stand alone item I love this songGoing right into the song Finn To wrap up that album But those might actually be My two favorite songs Right in the corners What a great one to punch to close things out Finn isprobably actually my favorite song on that album.Track 4:[2:05] Hey, it's JD here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for Seminole Indie Rock Band, Pavement.Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential Pavement tracks that you selected with your very own Top 20 Ballads.I then tabulated the results using an abacus and six boxes of M&Ms.How will your favorite song fare in this ranking? Well, you'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that.[2:31] This week, we're joined by Pavement superfan, Dan from Rochester.[2:35] I can see you right across the lake dan hey toronto oh do you remember when there was the ferry for a couple years i heard tales of that yeah yeah people were more interested ingoing to toronto from rochester and i don't think the torontans were very interested in coming here unfortunately i thought it was a cool i thought that's that's what i heard yeah yeah iwould have uh i would love if that was still a thing because uh driving to toronto you have to go all around the lake so yeah exactly it's the shortcut you know it was it was totally perfect inever used it but it was totally yeah yeah so let's talk let's talk about pavement yes let's this is this is why we're all here why we're all gathered around the fire to listen to rochester regale uswith his pavement origin story yeah so take us set the scene yeah set the scene so the scene was the the mid-90s and uh you know i was in high school and uh getting into into music anduh basically you know the internet was new um you couldn't really download songs you know if i needed if i had to if i wanted to hear a song i had to buy the cd so it was kind of uh youknow i had limited funds and limited accessibility to get to a cd store you know we had the one um one place it It was called Media Play.It was like a chain that sold CDs, you know, so it's kind of like a Best Buy or whatever.[4:02] Okay. So, you know, that was, you know, that was what I had to do.So I would sometimes take a chance on bands or CDs that I'd heard about.[4:12] And I had gotten really into R.E.M.And they were like my favorite band during that time. And so I heard about this band called Pavement that had a song about R.E.M., which I thought was so cool.[4:27] So I ended up getting that CD, the No Alternative compilation.I remember that one. Yeah, and it had Nirvana on it, and it had Smashing Pumpkins and a bunch of big bands from that time, and it had Pavement.And so yeah, I got that. So that was the first Pavement song I heard. Yeah.[4:47] And, you know, it was cool. I just loved the novelty because of, you know, a band singing about another band. I just thought it was funny, you know.Sort of meta in a way now. out yeah yeah it was so cool and that really put them on my on the map for me because i was like i was seeking out all the rem stuff all the b-sides you knowand i had a book and stuff so yeah just hearing about that i was like i have to hear that so you know and it was cool you know i loved the song i was starting to move kind of from that likealt rock um kind of scene to getting getting into the more indie stuff and, uh, whatever it was about, uh, pavement, what I had read about, you know, really piqued my interest.And then hearing that song, you know, and it wasn't, I would say like, it's not my favorite pavement song, but like, you know, it's, it's cool.It was fun. I liked it probably now. Yeah. Oh yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah.So, um, and then, uh, and then this was probably in, I I'm guessing just cause of the release date.Yeah. 99. So So probably like months before Pavement broke up, I was doing this.[5:57] And I went to the media play and I bought one of the cheaper CDs that I could find, which I have right here, which is the Spit on a Stranger single EP. Nice.Because it was cost effective, you know? It had five songs and it was pretty cheap.So I don't remember what else they had available at the time, but I took a shot on this and I took it home.I listened to Spit on a Stranger. I loved it.[6:22] I skipped to the porpoise and the hand grenade because I liked the title and you know that song I thought it was good didn't blow me away I don't think but then I went back to tracktwo harness your hopes and that was that was really the one that that cemented it for me that song really yeah which is is awesome because as we know it's a big Spotify hit now in thestreaming era.[6:44] And uh it was back in in 99 that was the hit for me and my friends too we we all really love that that song so uh so that was the one that did it for me and then i started uh startedcollecting them all so and here we are i guess you got into it too right at the right at the point where they started to do the reissues so you were yeah able to get those yeah it was greattiming because yeah that's a good point even though like the band had broken up by that point you know a few years later i was in college and uh for the first time in my life hanging outwith people who also knew who pavement were and the slanted reissue was coming out and it was like a big deal and everyone you know some people were new to pavement so i got tobe like oh you got to hear this you know and so yeah we were it was good times for sure it's it's always cool when you get to be somebody's sherpa you know yeah right that's exactly justguiding them through this you know this mountainous uh region of songs that they don't know exactly yeah yeah and um you know i I had a, I had a radio show at school, so it was fun,uh, digging up all the, all the weird stuff to play and, uh, everyone hanging out.What was your playlist like on, on the radio?Um, you know, uh, let's see, Guided by Voices, of course, big one.[8:09] Um, I, I was into bands like, uh, there's this band, Idlewild, who had just released a record that I thought was really cool.Okay. You know, just all the class, you know, Matador stuff, Yola Tango, of course.Yeah. And, you know, I would get into some weirder stuff, too.Like, you know, I'd play the shags or like, you know, Captain Beepart or, you know, eclectic stuff.Pretty classic. Oh, that must have been fun. Freeform, like college radio.Yeah. Yeah. It was super fun.All my friends were music nerds, you know, so it was just it was a big party every week week hanging out on people's shows and just coming up with cool creative weird uh musicalthings to do so and you know pavement was like the the guiding light you know it was like the the band that united everyone.[8:58] That's so cool because that's i didn't get that experience at all i still you know that was one of the reasons i started the show initially was just i didn't get people to i didn't have peoplein my life to really talk about pavement with so yeah i was like i'll talk about i'll stand on my soapbox and talk into the ether sometimes yeah sometimes it's rare you know to to get tointeract with yeah people like like that you know i met lots of cool people doing it like including it It seems like you have.Yeah. Yeah, man.So if you had to rank the records, you came to Terror Twilight.That would have been your first record that was released in your fandom.Right, right. Where does it rank for you? You know, I always say to myself, like, they're all pretty much more or less equal, equal ranked.I mean, they're all like five star records to me. Agreed. Um, I went through a phase where, um, brighten the corners was my favorite.That was definitely my favorite. And I would say it's not anymore.[10:03] Um, I, I don't know if terror twilight has spent too much time on the top, like the, you know, the, yeah, the personal top slot, but, uh.[10:11] It, it, it deserves, it deserves a spot.You know, I've, um, I've talked to, you know, I have friends who consider that their pavement pavement record and i always say i respect that because some people some people uh viewthat one as maybe like slightly less for some reason and i don't i don't get that at all yeah i don't get that at all and uh yeah i mean we we need terror twilight you know it's just uh the factthat pavement made that record with uh nigel godrich and had that kind of cool uh shiny production production um yeah i mean that's that's so crazy to go from slanted to the back rightand then you have everything in between so it's just yeah it's all it's all good it's all great yeah yeah terror twilight spent some time at the top for me yeah um not not that much but uhbreak the corners is currently my favorite oh nice yeah yeah uh beside watery like i mean i think watery deserves a spot.[11:08] On the mantle all to itself like that's kind of like a very perfect release you know it's like isn't it yeah it's so crazy how good that fucking thing is yeah and then even the even the thesession tracks that didn't make it to the sumi jack greenland greenlander so right like they're all stone cold classics it's bonkers it is it's absolutely bonkers yeah and having those allcollected on on that reissue was just it's so great um i would always listen to those peel session things you know yeah like kentucky cocktail and all that and.[11:48] Back when they were just bootlegs you know just like a tape someone made off the radio so it's it's really nice that um they released proper you know nice sounding quality versionsof those because because westing is on final now right yeah yep yeah i don't have it but uh i i should probably get it because i've got the eps but i've got them built into my wall is likeartwork work you know oh yeah uh like um here i'll show you how cool yeah i have never i've never encountered uh one of those in the flesh um one of those actual eps you know so that'spretty cool yeah it's fun i'll turn on my light for some somehow there we go i'm an old man when it comes to this technology jesus yes right you're doing great i used to do so well i used toknow know at all internet wise and shit but now it's uh well enough about me it happens is there anything else you want to tell us about your pavement origin story should we uh take abreak and you know that pretty much covers it i got you know this again it was early internet so i was i was rocking like the uh the pavement message board back in the day there was alittle community yeah um and uh it it was it was cool it was good times you know i i met some people there that But later on, I actually got to meet in person.And for a few years, that was a pretty cool scene.[13:13] I remember the message board got bought out by another band somehow.I don't even know how that was possible. What? Yeah.So one day, you show up to the message board URL.It was like ProBoards or something where it was like, anyone can start a message board. but I think some other band somehow had the clout or the money or whatever to buy the URL.And, uh, it's like, yeah.Oh man.[13:44] How about shows have you seen any shows oh i knew this was going to come up i have never seen pavement oh that's that's fine i i have seen mulchmas um but yeah you know imissed them uh in the 90s just a little too young coming in late i missed them in the 2010s i don't know really what i was up to but i was kind of um just not in the right area like i mean ilive in rochester i i always have to drive and sometimes i'm just not not up for it and then the newest one i was i was kind of eyeing uh toronto but yeah i didn't make it so oh man i knowbut i've listened to so many live pavement uh bootlegs and shows and stuff uh but yeah my first time seeing mulchmas was on piglib tour oh right you know this is back in college erathat's really when i started going to shows a lot so yeah we went and saw him at the knitting knitting factory i think it was in new york yeah yeah and i saw him open for radiohead i sawhim open for radiohead too in montreal yeah oh sweet yeah yeah mine was uh where was it i think i want to say uh like baltimore area oh cool dc yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well if you getthe chance i mean it seems like Like, they're on the clock.[15:06] You know? Like, I don't know that we're going to get many more.Yeah, I really should. I know it's, you know, I know it'll be amazing.Next time you get the opportunity, right? You have to pull the ripcord.Yeah, I need to. That'll be so cathartic.Well, let's take a quick break here, and we'll come back, and we'll talk about track number 39.Okay Alright Hey this is Bob Nastanovich from Pavement Thanks for listening and now on With a countdown 39.[19:08] Okay, we are back, and that was, of course, Pueblo, the 16th track on Wowie's Alley. It sits between Kennel District and Half a Canyon in a nice little sandwich there toward theback end of the record.This is the fourth Wowie's Alley song on the countdown after Best Friend's Arm at 49.Motion suggests itself at 48, and We Dance at 46.So this is so far the highest ranking Wowie's Alley track at 39.And uh what do you have to say Dan from Rochester about Pueblo?Oh man so um first of all when I I listened to this a lot this week and there's three versions so.[19:46] I did some some deep diving into comparing the different like studio versions that are out there but the first thing that surprised me was the length is relatively short it's slightly lessthan three and a half minutes And to me, that song always felt like very epic to me, maybe just because it's sandwiched toward the end of like, you know, the end of a long, epic record.It's right by like half a canyon and it kind of it vibes with that song.But I would have if you had asked me before how long it was, I would have said like five minutes or something just because it's it has a very languid pace in it.It kind of just sprawls all over the place of language. Thank you. Yes.[20:30] Yeah. So, you know, it felt bigger, I guess, longer than it really is.But, you know, it does what it does in a relatively short time. So that's cool.That really led me on the path to kind of figuring out like, hey, what's going on with the song structure, you know? And it's a simple song, but it has a kind of like spacey jam in the center.Sure does.And that's like, to steal your word, epic. Those guitar swells?Swells yeah you know they make this song so epic and then that blistering blistering is the wrong word because it's not blistering it's it's it's not languid anymore but yeah it's it's crushingit's heavy fucking great so yeah right yeah oh yeah you know um yeah so i i love that that's good mix of, you know, that's the wowie zowie like archetypal sound.It's like the noise, the, the beauty, the catharsis, the kind of surreal, you know, you don't even know really what the song's about until I listened to your earlier episode, which was geez,like three years ago when you first talked about the song on your show and you were, you told a story about how it was about like a hanging thing.[21:48] And remember this at all. Yeah. So I think it was something Malkmus said.It was like, uh, like a story about some, a guy, like a mayor of some Southern California town.And, you know, there was a, there was a guy getting, getting hung or hanged, I guess it is. And, uh, like a love interest.And he, I guess Malkmus had some, you know, story behind it, which I thought was interesting.Which is rare for him really yeah it yeah it it kind of reminds me of a song like pink india you know which he would write much later it's kind of that story song kind of vibe and the songshave similar vibes too in the sense that they're kind of slow and have this guitar part that's kind of lyrical you know and so it it lends itself to telling like some sort of narrative um but alsoSo, like, at that point, Malkmus wasn't really writing narratives that you could, like, parse just by, you know, they might not have defined words or anything.You know, he kind of has, he had a way of just singing stuff and it would be evocative without really, you know, without you being able to tell what he was really trying to communicate.[23:03] So, you know, that's Malkmus' like big talent, I think, or one of them.I do too. like just mashing phrases together that just work rhythmically and from a cadence perspective yeah but they're so obtuse you know yeah yeah um this song i love the dynamicslike i i love that like how it does go from those guitar swells to that again i'm going to use your word again that those you know the the i i called it chill guitar to start and then you go intothe main verse verse with with very slowed down lyrics it takes him almost you know 30 seconds to get the first two lines out you know before you before you get into the thick of thingsquestion for you yes you as soon as you listen to the episode and i did not uh and i have a very poor short-term memory yeah it's very funny i was with some friends yesterday and wewere talking about work uh from 15 years ago and i was naming people's first and last names that you know know we haven't seen in 15 years yeah very good long term but short term boydoes it suck it's uh.[24:10] It's uh i have a difficult time making new memories so yeah it's uh it's a shitty thing but my question here is um who is jacob right right so uh i was pondering this because of coursea few songs earlier on the album he's talking about jacob javits so i'm like you know know that's like a new york city landmark or something like that or that's right yeah um so i was likewell is that connected i don't think so um i mean pueblo so it's on the i mean, Maybe in some subliminal way, but I don't think it's supposed to be the same guy.You've also got this Spanos County, I think that he says.Right. And in the thing you quoted on the other episode, he referred to Spanos as like a person.Like it was a, you know, like this mayor of this town. Oh, okay.Yeah. So, yeah, I really don't know. No, but I think, you know, Jacob, I guess, is the protagonist of the song who's getting ceremonially or unceremoniously murdered.I, you know, I think. But again, in the context, you're not really sure.Is he like pleading? He's saying, you know, Jacob, you move, you don't move.Like, so. It sounds like, doesn't it? Like, if you move, you don't move.Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah.[25:36] And Jacob is also mentioned in the Pueblo Domain version of the song, which is the Peel version of the song.Okay. I was comparing these two.So, you know, that one was recorded.[25:55] Uh in february 94 like a few days before crooked rain came out so you know this song we know has been kicking around for a while uh before it was eventually released and it kindof went through some some changes so the peel session version is it's he's saying like jacob you glow you you know you won't go and um but the the lyrics in there are so very abstracteven you know more so than the album version uh really yeah and it's hard to the the song the the early version is really different too it's it's longer the chorus repeats more times the umand you know there's kind of like more more to the meat of the song and less jam oh okay version yeah so i i always i always thought that version the peel version was was like thesuperior one um but i i never really realized how different they are like they really are um so i kind of i'll send you if you want or i don't know if i can do a screen share here but istructured them out it's probably not too interesting for a podcast but you know i i wrote down like you know verse one chorus one you know and mapped out the two different songs tocompare and they're pretty different they're pretty different yeah the um the wowie zowie version basically does verse chorus chorus, jam, verse, chorus, and then outro.[27:20] And then the Pueblo Domain actually repeats each of the choruses twice. It's twice as long.And then it does verse, two choruses, verse, two choruses, then a little jam, and then it ends on an instrumental version of the chorus.And it's a little louder and more boisterous and energetic. energetic so i uh.[27:48] It's on the Sordid Sentinels. It's on the Crooked Reign. It's on the Crooked Reign? Yeah, so check that one out for sure.Especially, yeah, and just anyone, if you haven't heard that, it's worth checking out the Peel session at the end.Tucked way at the end of that Crooked Reign reissue.They do also Brink of the Clouds, which ended up as a Wauwizawi B-side.[28:14] But it has a section at the end, like the kind of rocket and uh part of the song that's not on the studio version and yeah it's good you know it's cool i just you know pavement doinglike the unreleased songs on the radio sessions was just such a so cool and it's so cool it really lent to their mythos you know the yeah the mythology of the band like what you know theyhave all these songs like where where's all this stuff coming from why why does Malkmus just essentially just throw these gems away kind of thing?So, you know, which goes back to Hold on Hope and all that stuff.You know, he's just, he was so productive around this time, you know, and if you look at those reissues, you know, all the B-sides, all the stray tracks, it's just, it's amazing.[29:03] Yeah. Oh, like from 89 to 93, they were so prolific, right? right? Yeah.And there's so many songs on that Crooked Rain reissue that ended up on Wowie Zowie.So it's almost like right after Slandered and Enchanted was a huge burst of songs that ended up going out into the next two or three albums.Yeah. That's far out. Yeah.So what do you think about where this song is rated?Are you a fan of this song? I am a big fan of the song, but I think it's probably properly rated.It feels right. It feels like a song where...[29:48] Like i do really like it but i think it works best in the context of the album or at least it really shines as as a kind of almost penultimate track on wowie zowie you know it it's almostlike the climax of that album um like the emotional climax along with half a canyon you know just like i can see that yeah you know um and i also i i don't know for sure but i kind offigured that like a lot of pavement fans might not know like it by the title or something because it's not you don't really hear the title in the song no i don't think he sings it in the song hedoes on the peel version oh he does in the first line yeah i didn't realize it for a while but i was just listening and he said something about pueblo right right in like the first line but uh butyou know regardless like it seems like a song that's a deep cut but also well worthy to be a fan favorite you know because it it it's very pavementy it's almost like you couldn't really getmore.[30:50] In a certain like pavement mode of this kind of like it's almost a little countryish but it's just noisy and crunchy it's a little jammy and spacey it's just it's pure pavement yeah i thinkit would fit on watery like i i think you know i think it could like it yeah it's that good you Yeah, oh yeah.And if you hear the other version of the song on Crooked Rain, not the Peel version, but the, they call it the Beach Boys version.Right, yes, yeah. And all that is, is an instrumental. It's that pretty guitar intro and verse melody and everything.And Malkma's doing some just kind of wordless harmonies.[31:34] But just listening to that version, the way the guitar sounds is less twangy and is more sounds like, you know, In the Mouth of Desert or that kind of slanted style.Okay. And you can kind of hear how it fits into that kind of zone and how it kind of changed and fits into the wowie zowie zone where the guitar is more like a little slidey or a little liketwangy.It's really clean, right? Yeah. Like there's no distortion coming through it.Yeah. It's very clean sounding.Yeah. I would guess that, you know, the sound of the song kind of influenced the lyrical direction a little bit.It feels just like a, it feels a little country-ish, a little like desert-y or something.Yeah. There's a lot of that on Wowie Sowie, isn't there? Yeah.But yeah, and to me, that sounds like, I would connect that to sounds from the watery era too.Too, like even like Greenlander is kind of this almost like kind of stark and almost like these desolate songs he was doing around this time, like Rain Ammunition's another other one.Right.I don't know if you talk. Did you talk about like Rain Ammunition on the year first?Didn't get to it. You didn't do like the B-side stuff.Well, the initial thing was to use the bonus feed as B-sides.I think I got through 35 of them.Yeah. there's like 40 episodes on the bonus feed. Now there's the bottom 100 or the bottom 50 of this top 100 as well.[33:02] So I think, well, I can't give it away. I can't tell you that.Don't give anything away.Rain ammunition is on that bottom 50 or not.You know, I don't know. I'm just, I love all those stray songs around this era.So yeah, you know, there's a very defined vibe.Also kind of similar to like the early Silver Juice stuff that Malkmus was on I think you could connect stylistically that kind of like.[33:33] Deserty uh watery domestic slanted vibe and see how it kind of morphed into like the more country, tinged uh wowie zowie thing yeah and that's around the same time that davidwas doing starting to get a bit more twangy as well yeah yeah and i know i talked to bob recently and he you know he talked about how david pushed steve a little bit um well not a littlebit probably a lot lot right like lyrically like there was a lot of competition between those guys you have to think they pushed each other yeah yeah to like i mean how cool is it that thesetwo like amazingly talented guys got to meet and work together in their lives you know it's fucking insane this is really converged yeah and i i get the impression that you know mulchmiss everything kind of came easy to him and i think berman was someone who had to really push himself a little little more, like, you know, maybe like a little more dedication to craft orwhatever.I think he would look at Malkmus as like, you know, what, you know, like, how does he do it kind of guy, you know, just had to kind of like, you know, they had to like one up each othera little bit, you know, like a friendly, competitive kind of thing, you know?Well, I think Bob says, you know, he feels fortunate. I think I've heard him say that he feels fortunate to have worked with one of the best songwriters to ever live and one of the bestlyricists.Yeah, totally. It's so, so cool.[34:58] Yeah, Bob's had a great, lucky, you know, it's awesome for him to be able to work with those guys, I'm sure.Yeah. I can't even imagine. Nope, me neither. Yeah.So, that's what I've got for you this week. Is there anything else that you want to tie up?Is there anything that people can plug or anything that you can plug for people to look up?Sure, yeah, actually. That you're doing? doing uh i uh i'm in a band called rectangle creep and rectangle creep yeah we're pretty um pretty guided by voices influenced and there'spavement and we have 10 000 songs we have we do we have a lot of albums and stuff but if anyone you do have albums oh yeah like you know check check the band camp check theband camp and i do some i have a lot of different projects so So maybe I'll just mention that one, but it's a whole universe of bands and stuff like that. But yeah, it's fun. That's great.[36:00] You know, music is awesome. So go to Bandcamp and search for Rectangle Creep.Yeah, Rectangle Creep. And yeah.[36:08] Cool. Well, it's been great talking to you, man. Yeah, definitely.Thanks for letting me be a part of this project. It's really cool what you do.Yeah, well, thank you very much. Of course. We'll be back next... Oh, sorry to interrupt.I was just going to say how much I really love your interviews with Spiral.And it's really cool how generous he's been with talking to you.And all the other guys too but I mean I love how accessible he is and it's so cool learning about that stuff so I'm looking forward to you know whatever new pavement stuff comes out ifyou know whatever news and projects you know I appreciate that you help bring this stuff to light I'll fly the flag forever man do it yeah well, great talking to you again Dan yep thanks alot wash your god damn Sam Hance.Support 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jD is joined by Matt F Basler to discuss his experience with Pavement and to analyze song number 45 on the countdown.Transcript:Track 1:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50.Track 2:[0:02] So there you go. At number 46, it's the third Wowie Zowie song to chart behind Best Friend's Arm at number 49.And Motion suggests itself at 48. Here we are at 46 with We Dance, the first track of the 2005 masterpiece Wowie Zowie. Maui.Keith, what do you think about We Dance?So, yeah, I think it's a great song.I love how it leads off the album. It's got like, I feel like it has this ethereal quality to it.Like that kind of just, I don't know, it seems just kind of dreamy sort of for me.I don't know if that's how it comes off to anyone else at the beginning of the song.Track 3:[0:59] Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band, Pavement, and you're listening to The Countdown.Hey, it's JD here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for the Seminole Indie Rock Band.Track 6:[1:12] Pavement. Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential Pavement tracks that you selected with your very own Top 20 ballads.I then tabulated the results using an advanced abacus and, well, frankly, a calculator.And all that's left for us to reveal is this week's track.How will your favorite song fare in the rating? Well, you'll need to tune in or whatever the podcast equivalent of tuning in is, I suppose, downloading to find out.Track 3:[1:38] This week.Track 6:[1:39] We're joined by a Pavement superfan, Matt F. Bosler. So there's that.How are you doing, Matt? I'm wonderful. This is good to hear.Yeah, no, I think so. Yeah, man.Uh it's a snowy blustery day where i am very cold what's it like where you're at uh same so i'm in i'm in uh st louis missouri it's it's a frozen hellscape currently, so i'm in a robe right nowi'm in our our place is cold we can't keep it warm ceilings are too tall oh my god that's terrible that's a but in the summer i bet you it's awesome it's hot then, there's no good time there's nogood period oh man well maybe when the cardinals play i don't know are you a cardinals guy i'm not a sports guy not a sports guy at all i i'll fake it sometimes right get by you know right,I've learned how to say how about them cards, that's great you got it nailed you got this whole thing figured out.Track 3:[2:59] Well.Track 6:[2:59] Motherfucker, we're here to talk about your pavement experience.And I've been calling it your pavement origin story. So why don't you share with us what that looks like?Well, I see a post. I see a post out there on the internet.It says like, oh, we're talking about the top 50 pavement songs.Would any of you like to talk about it? Maybe discuss your origin stories?Reason i say i say to myself i say matt uh perhaps you would be a unique perspective on something like this as i am what i think especially in the world of pavement fans i'm a fairly newuh of pavement fan i'm a newcomer uh to to the band now i'm a i'm a coming of age in the the 90s.Track 3:[3:53] You know?Track 6:[3:54] I'm listening to Nirvana, Pixies, Replacements.I'm a cool guy. We were from a small town in Missouri, though, so it was difficult to figure out what was cool and what wasn't cool.Coolest things we were reading were like Guitar Player Magazine, and then you'd find out about a band from someone else.You'd bump into a cool person, and they'd go like, Like, I've never heard of, I don't know, some band, you know?Ever heard of the Stooges? And you'd go, no.Well, somehow, I had gotten it in my brain that I'm sure you're aware of Nu Metal and, Saliva, perhaps, or Korn, certainly.Track 3:[4:46] Sure.Track 6:[4:46] Backwards K, yeah. Yeah. Somehow in my brain, I thought Pavement was a new metal band. Get out.Now, I don't know how this happened.Maybe the name, maybe the way the name was written at some point, the logo.Sure. And so I totally wrote them off, you know? Now, of course, getting into music is not a linear thing.So I would hear Pavement songs.I was familiar with some, you know, Cut Your Hair.When I dove in, I was like, oh, I have heard this. But I never connected.Dear friend Ryan tried to get me into Pavement.Showed me, I think, maybe one of their late night.But I don't know. It never came together. always thought oh pavement their new metal and a lot of my friends listen to pavement, but I think what's the band white pony is that the albumno no.[5:57] Oh, shoot. What are they called? Drawing a blank. Deftones.Oh, Deftones. Okay. Yeah. Deftones somehow, whatever.I'm not saying you're a dunce if you like the Deftones, but the Deftones were kind of new metal, but slipped into the indie rock. People liked them as well.So it wasn't insane that somebody would maybe have a new metal band on their their list of bands they liked if they listened to things that i liked right so years go by i just don't get into ityou know and and uh i should have i should and i'm a bad music listener too takes me a long time i gotta listen to things over and over again to like uh get into it um, so it's it's i i try reallyhard i try to be listening to new stuff all the time but it It feels like an undertaking for me to do that, so I don't do it as much as I should.Anyway, driving in the car maybe five years ago, six years ago, with my beautiful lover, Courtney, she puts on a song, Range Life.Track 3:[7:03] Oh.Track 6:[7:04] Boy. And this is rare that this happens to me.Like I said, you usually got to hear something over and over.Range Life, we're maybe halfway through, and I go, now see this. Now this is good. Now.Track 3:[7:16] This is what music should be.Track 6:[7:18] Who's this? She goes, this is Pavement. I say, no, no, no.No, I know Pavement. This isn't Pavement.Pavement would be doing like the thing that old Jonathan Davis does at the end of that.He'd be scatting or something.She shows me the phone.I'm swerving all over as I just stare at this phone scrolling, going, wait, this can't be right.Track 3:[7:46] Well, it was.Track 6:[7:47] It was right.Track 1:[7:50] And man.Track 6:[7:51] Yeah, then I started. So even still, though, it's like I said, a bad music listener.And now I'm coming into Pavement with a billion albums.And they're a weird band, right? So I started listening to the top on Spotify.So you've got like Harness Your Hope. Good place to start.Track 3:[8:11] Yeah.Track 6:[8:11] Start there. I'm like, oh, this is great. I love all of these.And you know those are probably the most like easily accessible um pavement songs which it was fun to find out they have a lot of songs that are uh maybe not so easily accessible, then ii go well i gotta dive into an album i choose at random sort of uh wowie zowie jesus christ which is now now that's kind of my my favorite one which i guess that's kind of you you know,your first one, but because I'm like, Oh, these guys are, are weirdos too. So, And even, you know, I think they're an interesting band to get into late.[8:58] Because by the time I went, well, I'll get into the subreddits. I'll really dive in.People are talking about EPs so much.But, you know, I'm coming more from a world where EPs don't come into the conversation as much.Like with pavement those seem like very main albums uh but i can't really think of another band where eps would be discussed on such a same level as as the full albums um and yeah iwould i mean there's i'm still at a point where like i can't name there's songs on each album that if you named them i wouldn't know them offhand you know like gotcha you'd know themto hear them but but not retrieve the song by name.Which is great. I mean, yeah, and I'm still, you know, like I said, it does take me a long time to get into stuff.And like I was saying, I think even especially kind of the back ends of Pavement albums get pretty wild.So yeah, I mean, I'm still kind of digging through and figuring it all out.Oh, that's really cool. Cool. First of all, you're a great storyteller.So thank you for that. That was a good story.Is it fair to say then you've never seen them live? We did go see them in Kansas City.Track 3:[10:25] Oh.Track 6:[10:26] I mean, one of the terrible things to me is like, listening to them now, they would have been, because I probably would have been getting in.Track 3:[10:34] Like.Track 6:[10:35] You know, with Crooked Rain probably would would have been the first one i would have bought if i if i did it at the right time right and i would have absolutely i mean this wouldhave been my favorite band and then i mean they are now i i, consider them in the they so it's pre-pandemic they were going to play a show in barcelona, right and we i mean we weretalking about it um because it just felt like i i felt like i missed out.This is a band I could have seen several times.And you're going like, well, they've already done a reunion tour.There's a good chance we'll never get to do this. So maybe we go. Maybe we check it out.Track 3:[11:21] And then.Track 6:[11:22] Of course, that all went away. And then we went and saw them in Kansas City a couple of years ago, I think, a year ago, two years ago. And it was wonderful.Track 3:[11:33] It was great.Track 1:[11:34] Yeah.Track 6:[11:35] You lucked out because that 2010 Renewed Tour, although it was very special to me, I saw them in Central Park in New York City and that was really special.They didn't look like they were having the best time. That's what I understand.But this tour, they seemed like, like SM in particular, just seemed like he was having fun.Right. And yeah, that's interesting too, because yeah, now my perception of them is like, wow, what a great live band.Yeah. But even in their heyday is the wrong term, but I guess pre-Breakup, right?Sure. Even then, people were kind of like, oh, they're sloppy.That's like their whole thing.Yeah and i you know that's not something i ever experienced yeah the kansas city show was just a great band oh yeah so much fun so do you have any um any favorite tracks or a favoritefavorite record at this point is it still wowie zowie yeah i think so um.[12:38] It was interesting well so that was you know i i probably listened to that for a year or two before i started going like okay i'm a i'm a join the subreddit guy and uh it was reallyinteresting for me to learn that that was like uh not well received initially um and even the later stuff too i i i think twilight is great i think bright in the corners is great and you know Imean, I know that I'm getting all this stuff at once.There's no like, oh, I love Payment. I love the sound of Slanted and Enchanted.Can't wait to see what's next. And then you get this kind of polished record, and maybe that would be a disappointment.But to me, it's all at once. So I don't know.I really love it all. It would be really hard for me to rank.Track 1:[13:34] Like.Track 6:[13:35] Well, and also, I mean, I did listen to, like, started listening to the top Spotify plays, and then I would listen to some, like, other people's like my favorite tracks or whatever deepercuts or whatever and right and so like part i don't necessarily even know like what's from terror twilight bright in the corners without like thinking about it um so for effort and you knowslanted change is a little easier to just discern that sound from the later stuff but even Even Crooked Rain is a fairly slick record.So yeah, a lot of those tracks, I don't really... Like I said, unless I go, oh, what is that on?It's all just like pavement songs. Wowie Zowie, I know the best.That I could do. But yeah, they're all just kind of like...It's just a bunch of good songs. I agree. I so agree with you.And I discovered them in a similar way. I discovered them late.I discovered them after Terror Twilight.So I got the same gift that you got, which is like five records at once.Yeah. And to hear people say like Carrot Rope, I've seen people say like.Track 3:[14:55] Oh.Track 6:[14:56] But that one, that one's a toss off. That one's a joke, stupid song.And I'm just like, I don't... Sure.Track 3:[15:02] I guess.Track 6:[15:03] But I like it. And I think, yeah, fun songs like that, there's room room for that again if you were so stoked for the next 10 pavement songs and one of them you felt, was a silly gooftrack maybe i could see being a little more disappointed but i don't know i think it sounds like uh sounds like animal crossing music um which was another big part of the pandemic for usyeah and i enjoyed it tied it all in a bow you just tied it all in a bow you You are a master storyteller.Track 1:[15:36] Well.Track 6:[15:36] What do you say we go to the track that we're going to talk about this week, and we can do that right after this little break. What do you think? Can't wait. But I will.I'll wait, because you just said there's going to be a break. So I can wait.Track 1:[15:52] And I'm excited to do it.Track 6:[15:54] Excellent.Track 3:[15:55] Well.Track 5:[15:55] We'll talk to you right after this. Hey, this is Bob Mustanovich from Pavement.Thanks for listening. Now on with the countdown. 45.Track 3:[19:55] So this is song number 45 on the countdown and it is our first track from terror twilight on the the list so far it is you are a light what do you think of this track matt personally andhey you know not trying to be controversial i like it i think it's great oh that's not controversial i guess you're right i guess everybody wrote in i didn't like i saw you talking about peoplewrite in for your top 50 and i went i'm not qualified i'm i shouldn't oh i should let the the real guys do this um so far i i agree i've i've been i've been keeping up with the pod and i'm i'mthere there's not which there's only been a couple but there's not yet been a track that I've gone.Track 6:[20:52] You people are insane. And you are a light. I'm right there with them.Sure, this could be a top 50 for me.Yeah, I think it's a lovely song. I think his vocal tone is maybe one of the best that we've heard of performances delivered vocally.It's so clean and so smooth um i love all the atmospherics in this song nigel has.[21:19] Created like a soundscape you know for the rather sparse band arrangement which we're used to with this band you know sort of uh filling in the gaps really nicely i love how thesong opens with that almost it almost sounds like you're turning something on yeah like a flick of a switch or something doesn't it oh yeah yeah yeah uh for sure old electronics remindsme of or something yeah in a in a movie i don't know if old electronics really make that sound but i feel like they do yeah yeah yeah.[21:57] Um yeah i think i think you know that's a a thing about um like his vocals like sometimes, uh i'll listen to vocal takes of the pavement you know and be like i wish i was boldenough, to be okay with that uh and this isn't one of those right like this he sings very like like, on key and everything, which is cool, too, to have those differences.And then to, like, know that, like, on other songs, and of course I'm not thinking of any right now, but he does it a lot, right, where it's not necessarily on the correct pitch or with greattone.Track 2:[22:44] And so songs like this.Track 6:[22:45] Right, are just kind of like, well, yeah, he could have done it perfect, but it feels better, more fun to...To do it um more fun i guess or uh whatever and um and right here randy jackson being like you're a little pitchy dog yeah right and that's it that you know i mean like i said like if i'mever recording a song like there's no way i i would i would i'm very self-conscious about things like that and uh it's it's nice to have someone to look at and go it's so it's okay you You canhave fun with it, or you can do it more like you're a light and nail it and make a very pretty song.But then I do like how this song is almost cut in half, right?There's the first chunk, and then there's the second part, half.[23:40] Dynamically, there's tons of shifts. And that's another songwriting thing that I appreciate in this song. They don't go back to the first part.And I think in songwriting, I don't know.I feel like that's a tough thing to do, to go like, nope, it's just this and then this and then we're done.We don't need to overdo it.There's no reason to come back to even like a chorus, which I don't know.I mean, the song would be difficult to kind of say what is a chorus.Yeah. Yeah. yeah i suppose you are the you know like you are the light the the calm in the day you're the light the calm in the day um like i suppose that scores but you're right there's no,There's no pavement blueprint. We've heard six songs so far on the countdown, and they're all remarkably different.Track 4:[24:35] They're all remarkably different from a structure standpoint as well as just like a finished product.Track 6:[24:42] I love that too. I'm glad you pointed that out because it's like verse, chorus, verse, chorus, and then weirdness, and then sort of a bridge, and then sort of out. But none of it is...Songwriting 101 no and right like it is interesting i think because you could take a lot of these songs in this this top 50 and pretend well what if there was a band that was this like this wastheir entire thing uh and you know you'd be like oh that's they're cool uh, But right, pavement does do a lot of different things.And to me, that's more interesting. I think I get the impression from some of the diehards, which again, I'm not saying anyone's doing it wrong or anything, but I think sometimes peoplewill get sort of stuck on their idea of pavement, or maybe the version of pavement they like.And it can be annoying to them when they diverge from that too far in their minds.But I think I look at it like.[25:58] Well, I only have to listen to one band. I don't have to get into five or six other bands.It's making it easy for me. That's great.[26:12] What do you think this song is about?Do you think it's about anything, or is it just word salad, or what's the deal? Man, I'm not a lyric guy.No, okay. I guess I'm more of a connotative lyric person, right? Okay, expand on that.These words feel a certain way together.It's not like a story. It's not like a linear tale, right?Track 4:[26:42] Right.Track 6:[26:43] And I'll do that even with songs that maybe are... like someone will go oh that song that's about him riding on a train and i'll be i'll almost be disappointed when someone tells methat right i'm like oh i guess it is yeah okay i see um i i like lyrics that just to me my interpretation was like well that makes me feel this way and And all of these words kind of like cometogether to elicit an emotion.And that's sort of the vibe I get from pavement lyrics.I think you're right. I think you're bang on. People talk about it like.Track 4:[27:26] Oh.Track 6:[27:26] It's just nonsense.And I think maybe in like a, oh, it's about this. It's this.I'm talking about these things.Maybe that's true, but I do think that they always seem to me to be pretty carefully selected things.[27:46] Elicit uh an emotion a specific like vibe and feeling and uh yeah i mean i i did i so like i said i'm not really lyric i don't really like pour over lyrics um and i did for this because ithought that would be a good thing to do and then that's when i learned well i am bad at it i have no idea what this is about i but i like them all i do like cool i like cool words and these arelike I read these and I go, well, this is cool.I like how this makes me feel.And they all are neat words together.Yeah, and some of them connect. I think You Are a Light, The Calm and The Day, I think that fits together. That may be about somebody, but maybe not.I love, lyrically, it almost reminds me of David Berman.[28:37] I Drive a Stick, Gotta Love It, Automatic. like that's the the vocal delivery of that is really cool so i think you're right there's there's almost as much like a michael stipe sort of yeahthing going on where it's like this word sounds good with the melody i'm going to use that in lieu of uh writing something heartfelt and uh, linear or or something along those lines i don'twant to say this song isn't heartfelt or other pavements no but you know what i mean i know you mean and i think sometimes when you write a song, you might you know you say wellyes this song is about the way I felt when this thing happened.[29:21] But I'm not it's not about that thing you know what I mean it's more about the emotion and, like I said I don't really enjoy story songs that much or I feel like you're sort of likestripping away a layer for people to enjoy it.Because, you know, you're going like, well, I don't have a red truck, so I can't...You're making me do more work, right? Because now I have to go, okay, that's the way you felt about your red truck.What could I feel that way about instead of just talking about the emotion and then, you know, whatever.I'm getting above my pay grade on talking.But yeah, I'm sure like maybe old mouth missed, could say, oh, yeah, this is about, like, Lethalizer Slingshots is about the time that we did this and this and this, but I don't know what thatmeans. Yeah. Yeah.Track 4:[30:31] Swallow propane.Track 6:[30:32] I just know, hey, as much of a fan as I am, not going to do that, Steve. Not going to do that.Track 3:[30:40] No.Track 6:[30:40] I don't think I will. I don't think I will. Where do you think this fits?Do you think it's a good spot at 45, five or do you think it should be uh like is it properly rated do you think or would you have it would you have it higher up or would you put it lowerdown for for yeah i mean i think for me i i think i'm gonna have more issues myself with the with the top because i think sure with people who are perhaps better fans than i know it there'sno such like it would be hard for me to not say a.Track 4:[31:16] Oh.Track 6:[31:17] Cut Your Hair should be top five. That's a, what a great song.And I think, I feel like it's going to get deeper cut, less pop song toward the top.And this, I don't know, this kind of.Track 3:[31:33] To me.Track 6:[31:33] This would probably maybe go higher for me, but I think...Man, they got a lot of songs. They got a lot of good songs. You have a lot of songs. 120 were selected for this process. 120 songs.I guess really, right? This is sort of a fool's errand from the start.It's just kind of a fun way to talk about a bunch of songs. I think you've mentioned...Track 3:[31:57] You got me.Track 6:[31:57] You got me. Yeah, I think you've talked about it.It's like, well, yeah, this is 45 today, but next week.Track 1:[32:07] It wouldn't make my top 100 or something you know that's um that's pavement fans are a little fickle yeah but but if if this was like the guitar player magazine i'll talk shit on themagain uh top 100 guitar players you know this wouldn't be the one that gets me in the comment section going you're out of your mind what that's no way gotcha so i would read it and i'dgo go yeah did you see the guy did the top 500 guided by voices songs holy shit no i did uh it might have been uh what a challenge some publication some some music magazine and umwe'll have to check that out i consider myself a a fan of a pretty fair weather fan of guided by voices but i do like them now that was a band i tried to get into late and i went i can't there'sno way i can't do it it's too much work and i'm reading this top 500 and like it was crazy to me that his like top 30 i maybe knew two or three songs out of it um wow i have to check this iat least have to check the top 50 out see how many get you in those comments going you're out that's crazy well i'm i'm probably like you in that you know i've got b1000 and i've got umgosh i can't even even think of the other records that i have but uh.Track 6:[33:35] I don't know that I could name. I'm a bad fan here because I don't know if I could name 50.I don't know if I could name 50. They have tricky names to recall at times as well. Yeah.Yeah. So this, right, I think this is certainly an easier undertaking.Makes more sense to me to do the top 50 pavement than top 500.I mean, at least here you can go like, the difference between, you know, 30 and 25 makes sense on a top 500.What is 450 to 442?Like, what is that? That's right. How do you even quantify?Track 3:[34:22] But again...Track 6:[34:23] Well, most people had difficulty doing 20. Most people had difficulty doing 20 ranked, which is what I asked for.I asked for 20 rank songs and then i would get emails from people i'd be like dude just do your do your top five and then add another 15 songs you know like because like you said it'stough once you get to a certain point you know like what is 17 you know what i mean out of 20 and i think this is a band where you go like if i'm in a bummer mood they've got themthey've got songs for that and if i'm if i'm wanting to have a have a good fun party time that's a different different set of of songs um major leagues was my that was my most played onspotify last year oh cool all right because you get that uh report at the end of the year right so yeah we'll see, hopefully that that makes it somewhere i guess i guess uh that would havemade it easier for me because yeah how would i pick a number one i guess if i listen to that the most i that would be your number one for 2023 i guess so i guess yeah well matt f basler uhit's been great talking to you about pavement and i really i really appreciate your time this this podcast season two here of meeting malchus is is entirely uh shouldered by the guests so uhyou did a you did a formidable job, and I appreciate that a lot.[35:51] Is there anywhere that people can find you that you want to be found, or is there anything project-wise that you're working on that you want to talk about.Track 4:[36:01] Or anything like that?Track 6:[36:03] Yeah! Matt F. Bosler everywhere. We're a band, I suppose.Track 4:[36:08] Matt F.Track 6:[36:08] Bosler is a band and a me, and we're doing songs and, I think I could see, I'm not going to say if you like Pavement, you'll like my stuff, but I think if someone was listing bandsthey liked, it would sound crazy if someone said, I like Pavement, Matt F. Bosler.It wouldn't be whiplash for someone to mention those two things sonically together.We just did, a couple years ago, though, we did a synth album of covers of modern country songs about beating people up.So that's maybe a little bit out there. Can you find it on Bandcamp?Track 4:[37:01] Yeah.Track 6:[37:02] Yeah, yeah. It's everywhere. Spotify, Apple Music, all that.That and then as an apology to country music for making a mockery we did then we made a an album of country originals whoa so we're doing a lot of stuff we're doing some some crazystuff out there that's cool i hope i hear you on the pod list this year do you know what the pod list is, no so every year i do something called a pod list for my birthday and i solicit tracksfrom, talented pavement uh fans and they do covers and then i put all the covers together in a podcast playlist or a pod list and uh i get it sequenced by somebody who who uh i get itsequenced by somebody who knows sequencing and uh it's usually pretty fucking fun that's wonderful wonderful i have a podcast i guess that'll be july podcast i'm not good at namingthings so yeah it is just matt f bosler's podcast or you're really good at naming things well sandy and kevin are okay they named me so mom and dad yeah yeah all right brother well it'sgreat talking to you like i said uh that's what i've got for you this this week.Track 3:[38:27] So stay cool and wash your goddamn hands.Thanks for listening to meeting Malcolm is a pavement podcast, where we count down the top 50 pavement tracks as selected by you.If you've got questions or concerns, please shoot me an email JD at meeting Malcolm is.com.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jason Mraz is a two-time Grammy award winning singer/songwriter, winner of the esteemed Hal David Starlight Award from the Songwriters Hall Of Fame and owner of his own organic home farming organization, Mraz Family Farms. Having sold over 13 million album equivalents, Jason is celebrating the 15th anniversary of his 2008 album We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things, recently reissued as a deluxe 2 vinyl set. He also founded the nonprofit Jason Mraz Foundation, which has a mission of shining for inclusive arts education, food security and the advancement of equality. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Barry and Abigail discuss We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. by Jason Mraz and sample Lucky Strikes, Echoes of Sacrificial Voices, and Basking In the Glow from Petty Thieves Brewing Co. in Charlotte, North Carolina. We want to thank Barry's college and medical school colleague, Dr. Michael McCrohan, for helping us obtain this fabulous beer, and for his “contribution to the arts.” Lucky Strikes is a collaboration with Cabarrus Brewing Co in Concord, North Carolina. The names of the beers we sampled today reminded Abigail of the names of the beers we sampled at Burial Beer Company in Asheville, North Carolina: Prophetmaker, A Canvas of Fragmented Memoirs, A Space For Sacrilege, and Of A Fading Season. Listen to our full episode at Burial, Consumers of the Barley (The Raconteurs and Burial Beer Co.). We make a lot of comparisons to Andy Grammer by Andy Grammer, which we reviewed in our episode Mind Your Grammer (Andy Grammer and Deadwords Brewing). Watch one of the TikToks Abigail referenced poking fun at artists including “raw audio” in their songs. Your Love is My Drug by Kesha is a great example of this phenomenon. Lucky features Colbie Caillat, whose song I Do appears on our family playlist of favorite love songs from 2011. Abigail's choice on that playlist was The Bird and the Worm by Owl City, and Barry's was Maybe I'm Amazed by Paul McCartney. Abigail contends that Butterfly is no more explicit than Swimming In Your Ocean by Crash Test Dummies. Listen to our full discussion of Crash Test Dummies, Pops Shuffled His Feet (Crash Test Dummies and Toll Road Brewing). Details in the Fabric features James Morrison. We shared a little bit of his song Under the Influence. Up next… Four by Blues Traveler Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry's condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we're drinking when we're not on mic! Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pops-on-hops-podcast/message

Barry and Abigail discuss our next Jukebox submission, Oracular Spectacular by MGMT and sample Oggy, Passionfruit Mochi, and Peanut Brother from Great Notion Brewing in Portland, Oregon. This album was submitted to our Virtual Jukebox by Paul Zawacki [The Procession, previously discussed on Musique Marécageuse (The Procession & Swamp Head Brewery) and interviewed on A Dozen Updates (The Procession Reunion Special)]. Oggy is named after Ogopogo, a lake monster said to inhabit Okanagan Lake in British Columbia, Canada. Listen to Paul's previous Jukebox episode, Abigail Battles the Pink Goblets (The Flaming Lips). Read the jambands.com article about MGMT's performance on the Live on Letterman concert series, which introduced Paul to the band! Of Moons, Birds & Monsters reminds Abigail in mood and tone of Space Oddity by David Bowie and The Commander Thinks Aloud by The Long Winters. There is a fantastic episode of Song Exploder focused on The Commander Thinks Aloud, which was written about the Space Shuttle Columbia. Our next Jukebox episode will be Thriller by Michael Jackson, submitted by Todd Sider. This episode is scheduled to drop on September 29, 2023. Up next… We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. by Jason Mraz Jingles are by our friend Pete Coe. Visit Anosmia Awareness for more information on Barry's condition. Follow Barry or Abigail on Untappd to see what we're drinking when we're not on mic! Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | Website | Email us | Virtual Jukebox --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pops-on-hops-podcast/message

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Matt Warren: Singer / Songwriter with multiple hits had to go through rehab to find his greatness. Everybody's Mark Pattison, I'm back again with another great episode of finding your summit, all about people overcoming adversity and finding their way. Can't wait to jump into today's guest, who certainly fits that bill. But before we do, I want to direct your attention to my website, www dot mark pattison nfl dot com, and I've got my film Emmy Award Winning Best Picture searching for the summit. You can check it out there. It directs you over to NFL three sixty. So fortunate that they film my amazing journey up and down Mount Everest and back Um and and what a beautiful story at the end of the day. And if you haven't seen it, check it out again. Best Picture Emmy. I've got the hardware comments, so I'm excited about that. Number two is I've done over two and fifty episodes, uh, going on out two or three years, and I've got so many amazing people doing incredible things and it always inspires me to talk to these people, like we're gonna talk to today, just what they're doing, how they've gone about life and their success and we all need that. I'm not the or you're not the only one I need it to to Jack me up and keep me going up and down these mountains. And finally, we continue to raise money for a millions everest all proceeds go to higher ground. It's all about empowering others and that's what we aim to do. Um, we we show the film, we've done these campaigns with Amelia, so on, so forth. Uh. And I think we have something coming either to the south down of Mississippi, which I hope Matt would be included with. That's coming on just a minute. Uh, and in southern California with Um, some pretty cool people. So tune into that, um all, if you do go on to that length. Philanthropy, millions Everest of all proceeds go directly to higher ground. It doesn't come to me in anyway. So on that note, let's get into today's awesome guest. His Name Matt Warren. Matt, I've met you two years ago down in the Great State of Mississippi, the little town of Greenville, at a wonderful common mutual friends, Steve Azar. He's another Delta Blues Singer, in your case singer Songwriter. I hope I got that right, Matt. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. Brother. I'm I'm excited to be on here and it's a real honor. Thanks for asking. Well, listen, you know, let's let's just rewind this, because we're gonna talk about your life. We're gonna talk about dreams, we're gonna talk about failures. You know, we talked about the name of the show is finding your summit. There's peaks, the valleys. Um, you've been in valleys. You've been in peaks. I've been in a whole probably more valleys than you've been, and I've been on a couple of peaks and it's fun when you're standing on the top. But you know, to develop that character over time you have to go through some stuff. Right. That builds that character, that broils that grit, that builds those other things that you ultimately are made up. But I want to go back just two years now and and I want to tell you my experience, Um, for the audience. So there's a there's a common friend of of Matt and mind. His name is Steve Azar. He's a Delta Country Blues he's had a number of hits. He's a singer, he's a songwriter, just like our guest today. Um. But he he throws a a Gulf event, a fundraiser, and then we're fortunate, the people that come down to be able to listen to these these amazing voices that Steve. He calls friends up on stage on a Friday night and I was sitting back with my girl dares, and I was I was this Guy, man Warren, was introduced. He came up and belt it up and we're looking each other like, oh my God, this guy sings like a flippant angel, I mean so talented. And afterwards I said something, you know, and we didn't really talk too much after that. And this last year, a couple of months ago, we got to talk a lot more. And again you got up and you sang a beautiful song and and so, I mean again, where did this love? When did you figure out that when you opened your mouth, you have this magic that could actually come out and it's I mean, I'd sounded pretty sweet. Gosh, that's an interesting question. Um, I've kind of got a funny story, uh, about that because, Um, I wasn't really sure, Um, that I had a beautiful voice, and the reason being, Um, you know, as a kid I was a product of what my parents listened to. I can remember being, you know, sitting in front of a record player, flipping records, you know, from one side to the next, while my mom was in the kitchen or doing whatever she was doing. And that was kind of my babysitter, was the record player. Um. And so from a very young age I loved music and I would lock myself in my room as I got older, and I had a whiffleball bat and I'd stand in there and, you know, Air Guitar and I'd sing it. I always thought that I had, well, I don't know if I thought I had a good voice, but I enjoyed singing. I thought that I could sing pretty much to anything. And Uh, and then in the what not? Okay, glad you're gonna say that. The seventh in the seventh grade, I tried out for the church choir and I was the only kid that didn't make it. So I was devastated, you know, because well, a you know, everybody should make the church choir. I mean, you know, we're all just, you know, praise in Jesus. But when they you know, I was I thought to myself, maybe maybe I'm not a good singer. You know, if I'm the only kid that didn't make the choir. So, Um, I was a little confused because I knew that I enjoyed singing and I thought that I was a pretty good singer. Um. And then it wasn't until the tenth grade that I had the courage to try out again for a for chorus in high school, and it was basically because my but these all my buddies I played football with. You had to have an elective and the reasoning for uh doing chorus was on my on. My budd said, they're all the cute girls were in there and it was a lot of fun. So I got the courage I have to to try out and I think I tried out with George all in my mind, by Ray Charles and my chorus teacher, Mr James Story. He uh, he just he said, where have you been? And so that was at that point that I thought, okay, well, maybe I was right, maybe I can't sing, and then he gave me a solo. Um, that Christmas we had a Christmas show at my high school, at Gallas in high school, and he let me Sing Jingle Bell Rock and that was the first time I'd ever sing in front of a group of people and I actually didn't even tell my mom and dad that I was going to be singing until the night before and I remember telling my dad I said, I think you guys should come to the Christmas program tomorrow and I I've got a solo and uh, my dad just looked at me and solo at what, you know, and I'm single Bell Rock. And so that was the first time that was it wasn't until then really that that I thought that I had a decent voice and I guess the approval of the crowd after the cheers. You know, that that kind of was what hooked me. You know, I was like you. I was, um, an athlete, a four spoor athlete my whole life, you know, a team, team player, and it went until I stood up on that stage by myself and sang a song that I was I was hooked. Yeah, I can tell you that really quickly that in high school, my senior year, after football season, UM, myself and some other football guys tried out for as a cast for the musical Ballyga doone and I was going to be in the village and I just singing, just dish. I had to sing in front of a hundred people and I was terrified. I knew that was not my place, but that was that was my story. So I want to mix this in. So now now, you you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you get up on stage, you're singing jingle bow rock, you know, you know, you finally like Hey, maybe I can do this. You know, as you're you've got a little confidence boost, you know, going and and then and then. I know we're kind of fast foreign forwarding at the clock a bit, but over the arc of time, you know, you find your place and you start writing songs. So where does the connection come from? You're, you're okay, I got a voice. Now I actually, rather than singing jingle bow rock and all these other, you know, songs that that you get up it's like Karaoke night, but you're actually you're gonna screate your own like, where the where did that inspiration come from? Um, so, I knew that I wanted to be my ultimate dream is to be the lead singer in a band. I mean that. That has never changed. Um. And so I had a band. I had a cover band, and we were basically signed to play like frat houses and bars in the SEC at Alabama or L S U or Tennessee. and Um, the band broke up and a couple of the guys wanted to go do a thing where they were playing original music. And I realized pretty fast that if I wanted to continue chasing my dream of being a lead singer in a band, I was gonna have to have some songs of my own, because I think my thought process back then was, and it's still this way. Um, no great musician is wanna gonna want to just play covers, so you're gonna have to have your own songs, Um, and that I started writing songs out of necessity because I needed a band, Um, and that's really what put me on the path to writing songs. And and at the time, you know, I still don't know how to read or write music. I just I know what chords I'm playing and I can hear them. I was just imitating Van Morrison and and and Willie Nelson, you know, generally speaking, because I would listen to some of their records and I how I started writing songs was I would just copy the chord structure from like Willie Nelson Song or a van Morrison Song, something pretty simple. You know, Tom Petty Song. I would copy those chords and the structure and the rhythm and then I would learn how to put my own words and my own Melly over top of those chords and that chord structure and that rhythm, and then I would change the rhythm up a little bit. And so I would, you know, create my own my own my own songs, and I realized that it was okay to do that because they had copied, you know, petty and and Willie Nelson and and you know, Van Morrison. They were just copying people that they loved. I mean there's only x amount of chords so and there's only, you know, x amount of subjects to to sing about and to to write about, and so I thought, well, if they can do it, so can i. and that's really how I started writing songs. Was Just Um, copying Um, the artist that I was I was into. Yeah, it's really interesting. Just sidebar to them and we're gonna give jump right back onto it. Um, I was. I was been been intrigued about some of these lawsuits are going out of saying trying to there's a lawyer that's out there in particular trying to I can't remember who the artist is, but saying that the so and so stole songs right, and if you listen to it, I guess you could like draw some comparisons in there by the end of the day. I don't know how you exactly do that, just because you said there's an infinite which is x amount of chords and those chords have to follow some structure and and there's eighty million trillion songs that are out there and so trying to create a new songs. So I mean you could potentially make an argument every single time somebody writes a song that they're infringing on somebody. Absolutely. I mean it's it's like it's not exactly like this, but to compare it to something that you are very familiar with, you know, each receiver has his own way of running a route, but it's still rout at the end of the day. You know what I mean? Like I mean we're still you're still talking about three chords. In the truth, you're still Um, there's only so many instruments you can use, there's only so many you know, Um, like I said before, only so many subjects. So it is getting strange and I think that the reason we're seeing more lawsuits, or one of the reasons, Um, is because the money streams and the revenue is drying up because of streaming. Um. It's not like it was in the nineties or or even the early two thousand's or previous to when, if you you know, when you and I were growing up, if you wanted to listen to music, you either had to turn on the radio or the only way you could get it was to purchase, you know, a single or a tape or a cassette or or an LP or a eight track. Eight track for you guys, Hey, I'm lone enough to I had an eight track tape player in my nineteen eight Grand Marquis. That was my own. But I think that. I think that because the money revenues are starting to dry up, people are starting to get suit happy and I actually heard the other day that, you know, a lot of songwriters and artists are selling their catalog I know that Bob Dylan just sold his for three plus million Um. But I heard that some of these companies that are buying catalogs are actually hiring lawyers to go through the catalogs and see which songs sound like other songs and find out who wrote them first and go get those guys. Get those guys and that that's pretty scary, I know well. And listen, I don't want to go down that path. I want to jump back onto you, but it's just like when you said that. Okay, so, okay. So you're in high school jingle bow rock. You're young here. Now you start a band, you realize that the PA of going forward is write your own songs. So you can figure that out. You start to put a few things down and now you go on and you've had a number of hits. Now I don't think you've had hits in terms of you seeing those songs. One of the models which I've I've been told, is like, like, you want to be the writer of the song. It doesn't matter really who's singing. If you sing it, it's great. Um, it'd be great for your career, but you just want to, you know, write songs and have Tim mcgrawan and these other guys pick them up and that's where you can make some serious down. And that has happened to you. Now, how many times? Um, I have only had three singles. Um, I had one single that was by a guy named Robert Randolph in the family band and Darius Rutgers sang it. That record was up for Um for a grammy Um in the Blues Category. We did not win. Still in honor to have a song that was the nomination Um. The other two singles that I've had have been with Gary Allen. The first one was called learning how to bend. It went to number ten and then the second one was called every storm runs out of rain and that went to number one and it was up for a C M for Song of the year. It was. It's it's by far my biggest song I've ever had. Um definitely the one that paid the most. I've had a couple other you know, now the format is Um. People are releasing songs Um and not even making records. So I actually have a song that just came out last week by a guy named Jake who who won the voice. He was the season seventeen winner, and the song is called had it to lose, and I wrote that with Jake and my friend Matt Nolan. But those you know. I've the the other three really the Gary Allen stuff is the biggest payouts that I've had because he's a major label, within the within the country, within the Yes, yeah, well, you're a tendency boy, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, so you know. Look, you know how many hits I've had. Zero Um and so do you know? You have to be at the plate to be in the game, right. We always say this, and that's what so much when you start talking about fear of jumping into that of like my fear of getting over the stated scene in front of people to mean massive. And so that was not my path. You know, that has been your path, and I think at the end of the day, you have to be committed to the end goal, because your next great song could be tomorrow, it could be today. Yes, right, you just don't know when that thing is gonna come. But if you don't get up the bad the plate, you keep swinging, you'll never know unless you try absolutely and I mean, dude, I'm scared every day. I mean I you know, I get nervous every time I perform. I figured that if I the day and I'm not nervous, that I don't care anymore. Uh, I get you know, if I if I wanted to succumb to the worries of of what ifs in life, I mean sometimes I think I'm never gonna write another song. You know. Sometimes I think that, Um, that I might have already written my greatest song and it may never get cut. I mean, who knows, but you have to show up and actually I'm in this phase right now. Um. I A big part of my path that that you know about is I went to Rehab three and a half years ago and got sober. And so this is my twentieth year, Um, in the business writing on a publishing you know, writing professionally. And so for seventeen or sixteen and a half of those years, Um, I was, you know, I was a user, you know, pot, alcohol, prescription drugs, recreational drugs, and there were many writing appointments. Are Many Times that I sat down to write in the past in those sixteen and a half years where I wasn't on some substance. So does that? Can I can? I can I ask you this question. Does that? Because you know, you go back to like Jimi Hendrix and you know when he's lighting his guitar on fire, when he's on LSD and does it? Does it make you, or the Beatles, when they're in their creative did you feel like like where you're at now, with full clarity, versus where you were in some altered state? I don't know what what it was, but do you feel like that in some way gives you more creativity when you're like your your mind is altered like that? or or what's your opinion? Um, you know, I I think for each person it's going to be different. I do think that there is Um, you know, you are in some altered state of mind, there is a window. You know, for me, I think the reason I liked to smoke pot when I would write was there is like this window, a ten minute window of what I thought was brilliance or whatever. But you had, I had to have a a recorder with me because I'd forget it, you know. But Um, I also think that that potentially is just a big lie. I mean, you know, for years I was addicted um two different substances and I I used to think that, well, these helped me to create, these helped me to focus and help me to write. And you know, my my, the drug that that I had the biggest issue with was adderall, and it's a it's doctor prescribed and they do give it to patients, you know, for Um, attention attention deficit disorder and Um, you know, that drug does help you to concentrate on whatever it is you're doing, but if what you're doing is folding socks, then you'll be concentrating on that. So you know, for me, I started to do other things and I I wasn't focused on writing music. But back to answer your question, I I think that for some people there is this fairytale world or this super creative place that they are able to go when they get high. But you can go there sober and you can go um too, other new places, other places that you can't go to when you are high. Now, if I'm being honest, I'm still figuring out who this guy is as a sober artist and a sober writer, because when I was is an addiction, I was such a mess that I wrote from that place and so I was always struggling, I was always emotionally, uh m, just broken, and it was very easy for me to write from that perspective. Now that I'm healthy and I'm leaning into my higher power and leaning on God and Jesus, you know that I can't really talk about my path without mentioning my spirituality in my relationship with the Lord. So now that I'm healthy and I have that that I'm that I'm leaning into and that I'm I'm following, I'm happy and I'm healthy, and so I'm still learning how to write from that perspective. Um, I think you know. You know, you know. The whole thing with that matter is us. My opinion is that and this is, you know, like I wanted to start off by let's talk about your peaks. Right, we'll get back to your peak, but I wanted to start about your peaks. You know, you start to find success and singing and people like teams, you know what was coming out of your mouth and started to saying. So you get a bunch of peak and then you fell into this common path, I wouldn't say of just artists, but certainly you're kind of in that space. You're playing laden bars and everybody's drinking, having a good time, and so you're in you're doing all that and then, like many Um you know, you fall into a valley. So now you're coming back and and to me, when I've been, I've even been in my valleys have not been related to drugs or alcohol or anything. But just you know, we all go through and struggle, whatever that might be. And like if you're focused on what your intention is going to be, if you're focused on you know, there's blue sky ahead, even though you don't even know what that blue sky ahead, if you're if you're if you're focused on whatever you do. I've had a couple of wins Um in my life doing different things, but that's just that's over, right. What's ahead? What? What? What? What am I gonna do next? You know, how can I like propel myself in that direction? And that gives me hope about other things. And I would like to think, like what I'm hearing from you is kind of the same thing, where you finally found peace within yourself. You know, you don't have to, you know, be self combustible to be great, right, and and and that's your blue sky, you know, whatever that might be, of trying to find the next best song. You know, I think you and I should write a song called the summit song, right, but it's, you know, like the people that you meet and the influences that you have. But again we goes back to that first thing about, you know, stepping up the plate and swine in the Bat. You gotta be at the plate. Yes, that's so. That's what I was I was saying all that to get to this. Even though, even though I don't feel as creative as I it was and it doesn't have anything to do with the drugs and alcohol. It also has a lot to do with I've been doing this for twenty years and you know, you're only as good as the subject that you have to sing about or right about. And so if you are a paid professional songwriter and you go Monday through Friday and you write, you know, for a publishing company, I mean you can get I mean, burnout is a real thing. I mean, you know, and so you know that. And so I also think that I'm just going through this this period right now where, Um, I'm just living, I'm enjoying who I am today in my sobriety and even though here, here's here's the point, even though I don't feel like showing up some days because I just I want to do something else, I'm still showing up and I'm still working and I'm very fortunate that I have friends and Co writers I've been working with for a long time who know what I'm going through and they're more than happy to still get together and and a lot of times I'm getting songs that I would have never guessed that I you know, that we'd beginning because they weren't my you know, the title or the the idea wasn't mine, but I'm showing up. That's that's that's the point I wanted to make. And you're right. You can't be in the game without stepping up to the plate, and that's what I had this conversation, I think it was yesterday, with my my buddy Jim Moore, who is now the head coach at the University of Connecticut. Has Been a long time in the NFL head coach, and you know, what we were talking about is, and this is related only in to my own situation, but you know that. And there's no cameras, there's no film crew, there's no you know, people with money wait now like every single day, every single morning. You know the difference, I'm just telling you, between some of the things I've done others. It is consistency with daily discipline, consistency with daily discipline, consistency with and it does seem anonymous, but I know that puts me in the best position to win. Yes, I sold lately, since March I have gotten back into the gym and I started running and you know, like I said, I was a fourth sport athlete in high school. I also used to teach health and wellness and K through twelve P um and I love sports. I'm an athlete and that that part of my life has been gone for years. And so in March I started working out and running and there were days I did not want to do it and I just started showing up. I ran my first five K on Memorial Day. I never thought I would ever be the kind of guy that could, that could run five K and I end up finishing eight in my age group and I finished one eleven out of four hundred and eighty three runners and was really I I was really proud of myself because I could have quit working out or I could have stopped running. When I thought that, Hey, I feel I'm looking in the mirror, I see improvement. I'm just gonna take today off. It's the mundane. It's the consistency, like you just spoke of, Um and the discipline that has helped me to get to where I'm at now with my exercise skulls, and that will also bleed over into other aspects of my life. The discipline, Um, in the consistency. Yeah, one of the things you're gonna find too, is is, uh, you know, not only is the mental health, because you're out doing something positive right, it's activating all the endorphins in your body, but there's also a lot of creativity that go through. So when you're one of those those that we that five kids that you're talking about, that's going to three miles and as you're running those miles, you're not just thinking about Oh my feeedom floor, you know you're you're you're also other things come in relationships and maybe music ideas or I should have called this guy, or what's going on with DVS are you know? There's there's a million and one things that go on in your brand that helped activate that, that retap into that creativity. Absolutely so. So, listen, Um, what I love to do and you pick it, Um, but you you've got a beautiful song that went to number one. Every storm runs out of rain. By the way, I'm from Seattle, so I know all about rain, or or this this new song that you just cranked out recently that you're really proud of. You pick, just give us a little sampler. Well, I uh, I'll play you a song that. Um, it's not that new song, but it's it's on my new record that's coming out and it's also on the Gary Allen record that just came out. We're not sure if it's going to be a single or not. We'll see, but it's called the hard way. Well, I was looking for my actually on the interstate Si I'm but the wind winning. We Dance. I took a wrong right turn about a half of my back. My directions all spun around through the sideways. Ray and the love and the shame. I watched the sunlight disappeared in the sun so black. He said you're never gonna make it back. Do you do some hard time? I'm out here. Well, God gave me the ring. Do you watch anyway, my pain and to learn from bad mistakes. Love me the horrid way. I love that man. That's beautiful. That was beauty. What what is that song about? Uh, that song. It's about sometimes in life, Um, the best lessons are learned through hardship and adversity, the hard way. Um, at least. You know, at least for me, that's been when I've learned the most just when I didn't want to. Um, you know I have. I've had a lot of people on the show again finding your summing. Everybody find it's going through adversity and finally way out right and and Um. And this one lady I had about a hundred episode. It's said this correctly, and this is after her son had been who twenty, was like three at the time. I've been stoned to death down in Somalia. Okay, so I think of the pain of a mother going through something like that. And she said there's no way around it. You have to go through it and in it. And I've been in the same spot. I've been in the spot many times and and you want that to go and you like doing everything Canada like shove that rock out of the way and get it. But sometimes it takes ten years, sometimes it takes five years. You know there was no but you look back on those times and you're saying that was the best thing that I could have ever happened to me, even though it sucked. Right, but I learned so many great lessons and I was humbled and people, you know, this person and that person came to my rescue and we're there and maybe that, like like the Beautiful Song You just sang, gave me inspiration to put me in a place for him today. Absolutely. I mean, my it a really long story, but the things that led me to the point to where I knew I needed to go to Rehab, that whole process was just completely life shattering to me and my and my and my view and my eyes. Um, and had I not gone, you know, gone through that, Um, I'd still probably be out using, you know, and just as lost as I could possibly be. But Um, I really had to go through the fire to get to where I'm at now and I would not ever take that back. I mean I would. I would never go back to my old self and I'm so grateful for the hardships that I had to endure and overcome. Well, you become a stand up guy, you become a man of integrity. You see what you do, when you do what you say, and and you know other people around you. They noticed that and then they noticed that shift and that's a big deal. It's a to me, it's a big deal and and and hopefully to you it's a big deal. I think it is a big deal. And you know your your life's journey. You know, every single day it's just a new thing. I mean, you know, I mean I we talked about the very, very beginning. I talked about, you know, this emmy that I just went for the best picture. You know, I've never started off climbing mountain. I climbed a mountain because I was in pain and suffering and I just had to go through my journey and it's just like that's that's what, that's. That was my Rehab Center, right to get up. And then these big gas mountains and you know, like ten years later I'm standing on the stage in front of pop costs and all these other people winning. You know, like where would that? I mean, it's so impossible that, like, I mean I don't know to say about it's so impositive, like there was no intention for that ever to happen. I didn't do it, you know, I just was there. You know the reasons for it. And so again, I think if you're authentic to your off on what you're trying to get through and where you're trying to go in the hill, and we're all on that path, we're constantly all healing in some different way. There can be magical things on the other side, and I think you're experiencing that right now and I'm just grateful and thankful that that you're willing to accept my friendship and and to beat on this podcast and and any time. What you should do right now is after you can need to strap on those tennis shoes and we're only four and a half hours awhile you're down in Salt Lake City, four and a half hours by car. But I think you start running, you could be here by like next Thursday. Oh Man, I'd have to hide right for that. Well, you can bring a couple of camelbacks. But listen, where can people find your your you and your beautiful music. So, uh, I've got a record. Um. It's under Matt Warren. The name of the record is self titled Um. But you if you wherever you listen to your music, whether it's on itunes or spotify or apple or however you listen to it, you can find my record on their at Warren, self titled. And also I have a band, my new band called good foot, and that record Um is about to come out. It's called the park city sessions and I'm really proud of this record Um, and it's it's me and four of my best buddies in the world. We came up here to park city, actually, to where I'm staying at right now and my friend Ben Anderson and Paige Anderson's house, and they have a studio here. We made a record and that record is all about, Um, my process from where I was in addiction to to where I am now and Um, and that record is gonna be available for people to download and to stream and listen, Um, hopefully by the end of the summer. That that it's it's done being mixed and the artwork is done. We're just in the process of getting it out there. So, Matt Warren Self titled and Um, Good Foot the Ark city sessions and also, uh, my very, very first record that I ever made. Um, they got me signed to my first publishing deal. Um, and muscle shows is uh, that band is called Papa Joe and the name of the record is called storybook ending and it's also on all your streaming platforms and download platforms. There he is, man, he's on his way, he's been on his way and he's got great things ahead of him. So listen, Matt. Totally appreciate you coming on. Look forward to seeing you next year in in Mississippi and getting caught up and seeing where you know your career has gone to in this record and I look forward to hearing these songs and uh again. It's very grateful for you accepting to come on and being very authentic who you are. Dude. Thank you so much, Mark. I appreciate you. Brother. You're you're a real blessing to me and to all who know you. God bless you, my friend. All right, buddy, there he is the one, the only Matt warrant. Thank you so much. https://www.youtube.com/c/FindingYourSummitWithMarkPattison https://www.markpattisonnfl.com/finding-your-summit/ https://twitter.com/MarkPattisonNFL https://www.facebook.com/NFL2SevenSummits

Michael "Leroy" Bram is most known for his tenure as the drummer for Grammy Award winning singer-songwriter Jason Mraz. He served as Mraz' Musical Director from 2008-2010 during the "We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things" world tour performing at Madison Square Garden, Radio City Music Hall, Royal Albert Hall as well as performances on Saturday Night Live, Jay Leno, Conan O'Brien, David Letterman and Ellen. Michael has also recently joined THE WEIGHT BAND as their new singer and drummer, singing and playing the parts of the legendary Levon Helm. The Weight Band performs the iconic music of "THE BAND" and features former members of THE BAND, as well as former members of Rick Danko, Garth Hudson, and Levon Helm's respective bands. He has also recently performed and recorded with artists such as WILLIE NELSON, JOSS STONE, JOHN POPPER, G.LOVE AND SPECIAL SAUCE, ZAC BROWN, CHRISTINA PERRI, COLBIE CALLAIT, and many more. mikebram.com

This week Dance Specific Talks want to highlight the upcoming dance workshop series in Amsterdam: #FeelingsFirstThis information is coming from the Instagram live session Sabou & T-zer had about why they are offering a brand new experience of dance and personal development! About #FeelingsFirst: When taking dance workshops, something we've experienced first hand was this: Going there excited, thinking we'll be sharing, connecting with people, screaming, enjoying ourselves whilst actually DANCING… When in fact, it was mostly all about technique, performance, competition, cameras, ego, showing off… and so on. Which is completely fine, but not for us. We Dance because we crave connections to self and to others; Because Dance reveals our unique talents as human beings; Because Dance enables us to express our emotions and exceptional stories; Because Dance helps us understand our bodies and get into motion no matter what life brings us; Because Dance is Life itself. #FeelingsFirst Dance Workshops Series is born out of one thought: make you EXPERIENCE dance and go through a journey of understanding, connecting, expressing, and sharing. With yourself, AND with others. We're going to:Finding you — let our curiosity guide us towards finding our gifts as dancers;Embracing you — scratch those layers and reveal, own and embrace the unique dancer that lies in you;Sharing you — let that bomb ass of a dancer you are shine, and share their story with the world!AFRO, DANCEHALL and HIGH HEELS on the menu for you to explore and expand your dance journey towards more enjoyment, love and movement freedom.Level is OPEN TO EVERYONE, and we'll be challenging both our beginners & intermediate Queens and the workshops all include: Welcome & refreshments Journaling & visualisation exercices Dance practice Reflection time & connection PRICE tickets:Day pass — 55€Full pass — 150€SPOTS ARE LIMITED  so SIGN UP NOW via email at saboudanceacademy@gmail.com.Remember: we dance first, and think later With love xxT-Zer & Sabou 

  1. WAAX - Same Same  2.  Counterfeit Jeans - Swim  3.  The Queers - Valleri  4.  Pist Idiots - Another Clown  5.  Gabriels - Blame  6.  Tara - Light Again  7.  Far Caspian - House  8.  Nice Biscuit - Round and Round  9.  Black Marble - Preoccupation  10.  Skinshape - ...and We Dance  11.  Mirror Gazer - Bound for Nowhere  12.  Devotions - Excess  13.  Monophonics - Tunnel Vision  14.  Reverend Baron - Let The Radio Play 15.  Andy Shauf - Jaywalker  16.  The Garrys - In the Dawn  17.  Boards of Canada - Roygbiv  18.  The Shacks - Trip To Japan  19.  The Breathing Effect - Getting Darker Now  20.  Absolutely Free - Epilogue (After Touch)  21.  Enola Gay - Salt  22.  Spiritual Cramp - Earth To Mike  23.  Speedboat - Dog Toy  24.  The Bots - Scatter Brains  25.  BALTHVS - Canoas  26.  Penelope Isles - Sudoku  27.  Son Step - New Ears 

1.  WAAX - Same Same  2.  Counterfeit Jeans - Swim  3.  The Queers - Valleri  4.  Pist Idiots - Another Clown  5.  Gabriels - Blame  6.  Tara - Light Again  7.  Far Caspian - House  8.  Nice Biscuit - Round and Round  9.  Black Marble - Preoccupation  10.  Skinshape - ...and We Dance  11.  Mirror Gazer - Bound for Nowhere  12.  Devotions - Excess  13.  Monophonics - Tunnel Vision  14.  Reverend Baron - Let The Radio Play  15.  Andy Shauf - Jaywalker  16.  The Garrys - In the Dawn  17.  Boards of Canada - Roygbiv  18.  The Shacks - Trip To Japan  19.  The Breathing Effect - Getting Darker Now  20.  Absolutely Free - Epilogue (After Touch)  21.  Enola Gay - Salt  22.  Spiritual Cramp - Earth To Mike  23.  Speedboat - Dog Toy  24.  The Bots - Scatter Brains  25.  BALTHVS - Canoas  26.  Penelope Isles - Sudoku  27.  Son Step - New Ears 

Our Pop Five HS Edition: Cue “Pomp and Circumstance”! As we witnessed the celebrations of 2021 graduates, we decided it was great time to get the gang together and breakdown all of our favorite High School pop-culture moments. Never forget early 2000's cell phones.  What is High School, if not the time when you are finding your own voice and aligning your identity with the art that you love. Listen as the My Pop Five crew tells stories of talent shows, unrequited love, breaking water fountains and meeting Taylor Lautner. In todays show Ryan, Briauna, Ronnie and Daniel break down Almost Famous, Tyler the Creator, Sex and the City, Jason Mraz's ‘We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things', and Twilight. Support the show: Rate and Review: https://kite.link/mypopfiveFollow on IG: @mypopfiveShow Email: ryan@mypopfive.com

Episode 13: "How To Have A Positive Mindset And Find Your Inner Groove In Life"Welcome to Episode 13 of the Dads Parenting Boldy Podcast.In this episode, Brice Johnson and I discuss How to have a positive mindset and find your inner groove in life.So if you want to learn how to develop your passion in life, learn how to figure out what that means for your life personally, and learn how to make the process manageable so you can learn how this process has the potential to develop inner growth, tune in now!In this episode, you'll discover:Episode Title: "How To Have A Positive Mindset And Find Your Inner Groove In Life"How to have a positive mindset and find your inner groove in lifeHow to do that while engaging your familyLearn what tools it takes to provide this environmentHow to navigate through it when it seems to not workHow to help your kid live their dreams with balanceAbout UsBrice Johnson is an expert in parenting whose accomplishments include:Coaching multiple individuals with his program "Grooves Before Moves"Also his entertainment industry background"Professor Lock (SYTYCD 8, Madonna, Rennie Harris Pure Movement) founding member of the Hood Lockers, has traveled the world teaching hip hop dance in a way that empowers his students to become solid dancers able to freestyle, choreograph and show THEIR identity as dancers and not someone else's.  He also brings to the table his ability to proficiently perform ALL styles of Hip Hop dance and teach each one's foundation and vocabulary.  He is constantly challenging his dance personally, by actively competing and winning battles across the globe, such as: KOD 8/Beijing, UK Champs/London & Hip Hop International/USA just to name a few.  A message he wants everyone to know is "We Dance how we live, so LIVE INDUBITABLY!Parenting Links & Mentions From This Episode:https://www.instagram.com/professorlock/https://www.youtube.com/user/ProfessorLock/aboutMore Information about the podcastLearn more about how you can improve your results with parenting with www.DadsParentingBoldly.com Thanks for Tuning In!Thanks so much for being with us this week. Have some feedback you'd like to share? Please leave a note in the comments section below!If you enjoyed this episode on How to have a positive mindset and find your inner groove in life, please share it with your friends by using the social media buttons you see at the bottom of the post.Don't forget to subscribe to the show on iTunes to get automatic episode updates for our "Dads Parenting Boldy Podcast!"And, finally, please take a minute to leave us an honest review and rating on iTunes. They really help us out when it comes to the ranking of the show and I make it a point to read every single one of the reviews we get.Please leave a review right now (https://apple.co/3piINm1 )Thanks for listening!

Oh hi Vinylize listeners! We didn't see you there, you caught us in the middle of rocking out to this week's album! What are we listening to this week you might ask? Well, check out this week's episode to join in on the party! This week's album is We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things by Jason Mraz. Released in 2008 this album was just the thing to lift everyone's spirit in a year that had quite the crash, but more than just happy sounds this album has some lovely personal stories and at moments will really tug on your heartstrings! With stories, sounds, and lyrics that go together like PB & J you're going to love this week's session. So drop the needle, grab a drink and relax with us, as we dive into this week's episode. Check out the Jason Mraz Foundation here: https://jasonmraz.com/foundation/ Don't forget to share Vinylize with a friend so you can dive into a conversation together! Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VinylizePodcast The Epic Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Ki8TY5hemHfoqDv2LjevD Vinylize The Full Albums: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/64JVeCFrzQbqNprGYAYAum Intro & Outro tune: Dangle By: Of North America... Hosts: Paul McCormack & Mark Sykes Produced & Edited by: Alex Sykes We hope you enjoyed this week's episode and we'll see you next week!

Hi friends! Thank you so much for listening to today's episode! I hope that you enjoyed it and got some great Bible verses and tips from the episode. :) Please share your God's Got You Moments with me at my Instagram (girl.godsgotyou) or through email (girlgodsgotyou@gmail.com) The song shared in this episode: We Dance by Bethel Music The podcast episode mentioned: Unfiltered Faith God bless your week!

I'm Yours教唱有的人说一见钟情(Love at first sight)只属于童话，有人说一见钟情才是这辈子注定的爱情。一见钟情的刹那，你会像小孩看到糖果一样开心，脸上会忍不住洋溢着花儿一样的笑容。心里也会认定：嗯，就是她/他了。太喜欢一个人，见到他/她的那一刻，满心的激动。甚至说话都会不时脸红。今天分享的这首I'm Yours就让我们再次体会到了这种让人心动的感觉。歌词中唱道：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很是的，在我们两眼交触的瞬间，你就能感到，我已经完全被你俘虏。因为你，让我坠入爱河。正如《传奇》中所唱：只是因为在人群中多看了你一眼再也没能忘掉你容颜梦想着偶然能有一天再相见从此我开始孤单思念…爱情是一种多么神奇的感情，让人如痴如醉，如梦如醒。I'm yours这首歌是杰森·玛耶兹所创作的一首歌。杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周。今天我们就来学唱下这首歌的第一部分。New Words:Crack [kræk] n. 裂缝；Divine [dɪ'vaɪn] adj. 神圣的；非凡的；Intervention [ɪntə'venʃ(ə)n] n. 介入；妨碍歌词发音技巧：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很Me and 连读 and d省音 Bet I连读 Felt it连读 it t省音I tried to be chill but you're so hot that I melted我压制着自己，但你的美早已让我失去克制的心Tried d省音 but you连读 hot t省音 that I连读 melted d省音I fell right through the cracks我坠入爱河Right t省音and now I'm trying to get back现在我尽量让自己清醒And弱读 d省音get t省音 back不完全爆破Before the cool done run out在我还能装的像个高冷的帅哥时Run out连读 out I'll连读I'll be giving it my bestest我要把自己最帅的一面拿出来Giving it连读 it t省音 bestest t省音Nothing's going to stop me but divine intervention现在除了上帝没什么能阻止我了Going but弱读 but t省音I reckon it's again my turn to win some or learn some要么收获爱情要么收获教训了reckon it's 连读 some or 连读But I won't hesitate no more, no more但是不能再怂下去，是时候了But I连读 won't t省音 hesitate t省音It cannot wait I'm yours我等不及告诉你，我已经是你的俘虏了It t省音

I'm Yours教唱有的人说一见钟情(Love at first sight)只属于童话，有人说一见钟情才是这辈子注定的爱情。一见钟情的刹那，你会像小孩看到糖果一样开心，脸上会忍不住洋溢着花儿一样的笑容。心里也会认定：嗯，就是她/他了。太喜欢一个人，见到他/她的那一刻，满心的激动。甚至说话都会不时脸红。今天分享的这首I'm Yours就让我们再次体会到了这种让人心动的感觉。歌词中唱道：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很是的，在我们两眼交触的瞬间，你就能感到，我已经完全被你俘虏。因为你，让我坠入爱河。正如《传奇》中所唱：只是因为在人群中多看了你一眼再也没能忘掉你容颜梦想着偶然能有一天再相见从此我开始孤单思念…爱情是一种多么神奇的感情，让人如痴如醉，如梦如醒。I'm yours这首歌是杰森·玛耶兹所创作的一首歌。杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周。今天我们就来学唱下这首歌的第一部分。New Words:Crack [kræk] n. 裂缝；Divine [dɪ'vaɪn] adj. 神圣的；非凡的；Intervention [ɪntə'venʃ(ə)n] n. 介入；妨碍歌词发音技巧：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很Me and 连读 and d省音 Bet I连读 Felt it连读 it t省音I tried to be chill but you're so hot that I melted我压制着自己，但你的美早已让我失去克制的心Tried d省音 but you连读 hot t省音 that I连读 melted d省音I fell right through the cracks我坠入爱河Right t省音and now I'm trying to get back现在我尽量让自己清醒And弱读 d省音get t省音 back不完全爆破Before the cool done run out在我还能装的像个高冷的帅哥时Run out连读 out I'll连读I'll be giving it my bestest我要把自己最帅的一面拿出来Giving it连读 it t省音 bestest t省音Nothing's going to stop me but divine intervention现在除了上帝没什么能阻止我了Going but弱读 but t省音I reckon it's again my turn to win some or learn some要么收获爱情要么收获教训了reckon it's 连读 some or 连读But I won't hesitate no more, no more但是不能再怂下去，是时候了But I连读 won't t省音 hesitate t省音It cannot wait I'm yours我等不及告诉你，我已经是你的俘虏了It t省音

I'm Yours教唱有的人说一见钟情(Love at first sight)只属于童话，有人说一见钟情才是这辈子注定的爱情。一见钟情的刹那，你会像小孩看到糖果一样开心，脸上会忍不住洋溢着花儿一样的笑容。心里也会认定：嗯，就是她/他了。太喜欢一个人，见到他/她的那一刻，满心的激动。甚至说话都会不时脸红。今天分享的这首I'm Yours就让我们再次体会到了这种让人心动的感觉。歌词中唱道：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很是的，在我们两眼交触的瞬间，你就能感到，我已经完全被你俘虏。因为你，让我坠入爱河。正如《传奇》中所唱：只是因为在人群中多看了你一眼再也没能忘掉你容颜梦想着偶然能有一天再相见从此我开始孤单思念…爱情是一种多么神奇的感情，让人如痴如醉，如梦如醒。I'm yours这首歌是杰森·玛耶兹所创作的一首歌。杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周。今天我们就来学唱下这首歌的第一部分。New Words:Crack [kræk] n. 裂缝；Divine [dɪ'vaɪn] adj. 神圣的；非凡的；Intervention [ɪntə'venʃ(ə)n] n. 介入；妨碍歌词发音技巧：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很Me and 连读 and d省音 Bet I连读 Felt it连读 it t省音I tried to be chill but you're so hot that I melted我压制着自己，但你的美早已让我失去克制的心Tried d省音 but you连读 hot t省音 that I连读 melted d省音I fell right through the cracks我坠入爱河Right t省音and now I'm trying to get back现在我尽量让自己清醒And弱读 d省音get t省音 back不完全爆破Before the cool done run out在我还能装的像个高冷的帅哥时Run out连读 out I'll连读I'll be giving it my bestest我要把自己最帅的一面拿出来Giving it连读 it t省音 bestest t省音Nothing's going to stop me but divine intervention现在除了上帝没什么能阻止我了Going but弱读 but t省音I reckon it's again my turn to win some or learn some要么收获爱情要么收获教训了reckon it's 连读 some or 连读But I won't hesitate no more, no more但是不能再怂下去，是时候了But I连读 won't t省音 hesitate t省音It cannot wait I'm yours我等不及告诉你，我已经是你的俘虏了It t省音

I'm Yours教唱有的人说一见钟情(Love at first sight)只属于童话，有人说一见钟情才是这辈子注定的爱情。一见钟情的刹那，你会像小孩看到糖果一样开心，脸上会忍不住洋溢着花儿一样的笑容。心里也会认定：嗯，就是她/他了。太喜欢一个人，见到他/她的那一刻，满心的激动。甚至说话都会不时脸红。今天分享的这首I'm Yours就让我们再次体会到了这种让人心动的感觉。歌词中唱道：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很是的，在我们两眼交触的瞬间，你就能感到，我已经完全被你俘虏。因为你，让我坠入爱河。正如《传奇》中所唱：只是因为在人群中多看了你一眼再也没能忘掉你容颜梦想着偶然能有一天再相见从此我开始孤单思念…爱情是一种多么神奇的感情，让人如痴如醉，如梦如醒。I'm yours这首歌是杰森·玛耶兹所创作的一首歌。杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周。今天我们就来学唱下这首歌的第一部分。New Words:Crack [kræk] n. 裂缝；Divine [dɪ'vaɪn] adj. 神圣的；非凡的；Intervention [ɪntə'venʃ(ə)n] n. 介入；妨碍歌词发音技巧：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很Me and 连读 and d省音 Bet I连读 Felt it连读 it t省音I tried to be chill but you're so hot that I melted我压制着自己，但你的美早已让我失去克制的心Tried d省音 but you连读 hot t省音 that I连读 melted d省音I fell right through the cracks我坠入爱河Right t省音and now I'm trying to get back现在我尽量让自己清醒And弱读 d省音get t省音 back不完全爆破Before the cool done run out在我还能装的像个高冷的帅哥时Run out连读 out I'll连读I'll be giving it my bestest我要把自己最帅的一面拿出来Giving it连读 it t省音 bestest t省音Nothing's going to stop me but divine intervention现在除了上帝没什么能阻止我了Going but弱读 but t省音I reckon it's again my turn to win some or learn some要么收获爱情要么收获教训了reckon it's 连读 some or 连读But I won't hesitate no more, no more但是不能再怂下去，是时候了But I连读 won't t省音 hesitate t省音It cannot wait I'm yours我等不及告诉你，我已经是你的俘虏了It t省音

Bassmak (New Delhi, INDIA) Mayank stage name BassMak is a music producer and a Dj by profession based out of New Delhi, India. So far he has played in 5-10 underground parties in New Delhi hosted by leading organizers like We Dance, Danza in the city, paradox,l&r and ha also been featured in a techno music podcast station named Highlights Music Festival. He aspires to spread his wings in the Techno scene with his flawless music style. Soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/highlight01_radio/highlight-music-feat-bassmak-mixtape-180?ref=clipboard

Pavement is one of The New Dad Rock's favorite bands, but perhaps you are not well-versed in their oeuvre. Let Keith and Steve guide you through their career highlights, regale you with anecdotes tangentially related to the band, and otherwise guide you on your search for enlightenment.If you're up for further exploration, please enjoy this (by no means exhaustive) playlist of Pavement songs from throughout their prolific but brief career."Box Elder" from the Slay Tracks: 1933-1969 EP* (1989)"Debris Slide" from the Perfect Sound Forever EP* (1991)"Summer Babe" from Slanted and Enchanted* (1991)"Here" from Slanted and Enchanted (1991)"Two States" from Slanted and Enchanted (1991)"Frontwards" from Watery, Domestic EP (1992)"Lions (Linden)" from Watery, Domestic EP (1992)"Silence Kit" -- also known as Silent Kid from Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (1994)"Gold Soundz" from Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (1994)"Cut Your Hair" from Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (1994)"Range Life" from Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain (1994)"We Dance" from Wowee Zowee (1995)"Rattled By The Rush" from Wowee Zowee (1995) "Easily Fooled" b-side from Rattled By The Rush single (1995)"Grounded" from Wowee Zowee (1995)"Father to a Sister of Thought" from Wowee Zowee (1995)"AT&T" from Wowee Zowee (1995)"Give It a Day" from the Pacific Trim EP (1996)"Stereo" from Brighten the Corners (1997)"Shady Lane" from Brighten the Corners (1997)"Spit on a Stranger" from Terror Twilight** (1999)* these tracks were also Included on the Westing (By Musket and Sextant) compilation** for a further discussion of Terror Twilight, please see EP 1 of The New Dad RockSupport the show (https://teespring.com/stores/the-new-dad-rock)

Series of live streams organized by We Are Glitch, a group of musicians and DJ's based in Barcelona. This is my set which I played during the 4th edition of "We Dance" Nights on the 12/4/2020, at the start of the locked down in Europe. Thank you for supporting the artists during the locked down time. Enjoy it and share !! )*(

jD is back to discuss the artwork on Pavement's 3rd long play with Bobby from Atlanta, and then he digs in on We Dance. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

jD is back and he's brought Rattled by the Rush with him. Where is We Dance? You say, well this show goes chronological and Rattled by la Rush is an EP that was released prior to Wowee Zowee so there's that. Get the song from today's pod over here: https://apple.co/37JN20nSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Born and raised in Mechanicsville, Virginia, Jason is a singer-songwriter who first came to prominence in the San Diego coffee shop scene in 2000. In 2002 he released his debut studio album, Waiting for My Rocket to Come, which contained the hit single "The Remedy (I Won't Worry)". With the release of his second album, Mr. A-Z, in 2005, Mraz achieved major commercial success. The album peaked at number 5 on the Billboard 200 and sold over 100,000 copies in the US. In 2008 Mraz released his third studio album, We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. It debuted at number 3 on the Billboard 200 and was an international commercial success primarily due to the hit "I'm Yours". The song peaked at number 6 on the Billboard Hot 100, giving him his first top ten single, and spent a record 76 weeks on the Hot 100. His fourth album, Love Is a Four Letter Word, peaked at number 2 on the Billboard 200, his highest-charting album to date. Mraz has won two Grammy Awards and received two additional nominations, and has also won two Teen Choice Awards, a People's Choice Award and the Hal David Songwriters Hall of Fame Award. He has earned Platinum and multi-Platinum certifications in over 20 countries, and has toured in North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Australia, the Middle East and parts of Africa.    Jason is a passionate environmentalist and humanitarian lending his name, voice and support for causes that are near to his heart.  His Mraz Family Farms grows avocados, coffee and passion fruit. The Jason Mraz Foundation works to shine for arts education and the advancement of equality.  For information of Jason’s current and up coming tour visit Jason Mraz.     

In this episode, teacher and singer Nicholas Harbison discusses the lesser-known musicals of Lynn Ahrens and Stephen Flaherty: Lucky Stiff, My Favorite Year, A Man of No Importance, Dessa Rose, and The Glorious Ones. We also talk about the song "We Dance" from their 1990 musical Once on This Island.

Le duo d'indie pop Crush Club et la chanteuse Nicki B apportent leur mélange de funk, de musique house ou latine sur la scène de TED, en jouant trois chansons : « My Man », « Bohanna » et « We Dance ».

Indie pop duo Crush Club and singer Nicki B bring their blend of funk, house and Latin styles to the TED stage, performing three songs: "My Man," "Bohanna" and "We Dance."

El dúo de Indie pop "Crush Club" y la cantante Nicki B traen su mezcla de funk, house y estilos latinos al escenario TED, interpretando tres canciones: "My Man," "Bohanna" y "We Dance".

A dupla indie pop Crush Club e a cantora Nicki B trazem sua mistura de estilos funk, house e latim para o palco do TED, tocando três músicas: "My Man", "Bohanna" e "We Dance".

In this episode, the gang talks about the Birdbox Challenge that everyone is doing. Is Ellen the gay Jesus? What do you think of Kevin Hart on Ellen?  Bash learns about a whole new world of snacks. Mariam T has an opinion on dolphins. We also learn what people in other countries think  Americans do based on what they see in the movies. Tony wants to go “old school” and bring back phone conversation.  Then we finish it off with a new segment “Stoner TV.” What are the best shows to watch while high?  The band this week is Tony’s and Bash’s favorite, Crush Club, and their song, “We Dance.” Theme music: “Around the Bend” by Evan Schaeffer  http://soundcloud.com/evanschaeffer

I'm Yours教唱杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周。今天我们就要学这首知名度相当高，但是比较难唱的《I'm Yours》。New Words:Crack [kræk] n.裂缝；Divine [dɪ'vaɪn] adj.神圣的；非凡的；Intervention [ɪntə'venʃ(ə)n] n.介入；妨碍歌词发音技巧：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很Me and连读and d省音Bet I连读Felt it连读it t省音I tried to be chill but you're so hot that I melted我压制着自己，但你的美早已让我失去克制的心Tried d省音but you连读hot t省音that I连读melted d省音I fell right through the cracks我坠入爱河Right t省音and now I'm trying to get back现在我尽量让自己清醒And弱读d省音get t省音back不完全爆破Before the cool done run out在我还能装的像个高冷的帅哥时Run out连读out I'll连读I'll be giving it my bestest我要把自己最帅的一面拿出来Giving it连读it t省音bestest t省音Nothing's going to stop me but divine intervention现在除了上帝没什么能阻止我了 Going but弱读but t省音I reckon it's again my turn to win some or learn some要么收获爱情要么收获教训了reckon it's 连读some or连读But I won't hesitate no more, no more但是不能再怂下去，是时候了But I连读won't t省音hesitate t省音It cannot wait I'm yours我等不及告诉你，我已经是你的俘虏了It t省音

I'm Yours教唱杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周。今天我们就要学这首知名度相当高，但是比较难唱的《I'm Yours》。New Words:Crack [kræk] n.裂缝；Divine [dɪ'vaɪn] adj.神圣的；非凡的；Intervention [ɪntə'venʃ(ə)n] n.介入；妨碍歌词发音技巧：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很Me and连读and d省音Bet I连读Felt it连读it t省音I tried to be chill but you're so hot that I melted我压制着自己，但你的美早已让我失去克制的心Tried d省音but you连读hot t省音that I连读melted d省音I fell right through the cracks我坠入爱河Right t省音and now I'm trying to get back现在我尽量让自己清醒And弱读d省音get t省音back不完全爆破Before the cool done run out在我还能装的像个高冷的帅哥时Run out连读out I'll连读I'll be giving it my bestest我要把自己最帅的一面拿出来Giving it连读it t省音bestest t省音Nothing's going to stop me but divine intervention现在除了上帝没什么能阻止我了 Going but弱读but t省音I reckon it's again my turn to win some or learn some要么收获爱情要么收获教训了reckon it's 连读some or连读But I won't hesitate no more, no more但是不能再怂下去，是时候了But I连读won't t省音hesitate t省音It cannot wait I'm yours我等不及告诉你，我已经是你的俘虏了It t省音

I'm Yours教唱杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周。今天我们就要学这首知名度相当高，但是比较难唱的《I'm Yours》。New Words:Crack [kræk] n.裂缝；Divine [dɪ'vaɪn] adj.神圣的；非凡的；Intervention [ɪntə'venʃ(ə)n] n.介入；妨碍歌词发音技巧：Well you done done me and you bet I felt it我承认你已经俘获我了，你心里也清楚得很Me and连读and d省音Bet I连读Felt it连读it t省音I tried to be chill but you're so hot that I melted我压制着自己，但你的美早已让我失去克制的心Tried d省音but you连读hot t省音that I连读melted d省音I fell right through the cracks我坠入爱河Right t省音and now I'm trying to get back现在我尽量让自己清醒And弱读d省音get t省音back不完全爆破Before the cool done run out在我还能装的像个高冷的帅哥时Run out连读out I'll连读I'll be giving it my bestest我要把自己最帅的一面拿出来Giving it连读it t省音bestest t省音Nothing's going to stop me but divine intervention现在除了上帝没什么能阻止我了 Going but弱读but t省音I reckon it's again my turn to win some or learn some要么收获爱情要么收获教训了reckon it's 连读some or连读But I won't hesitate no more, no more但是不能再怂下去，是时候了But I连读won't t省音hesitate t省音It cannot wait I'm yours我等不及告诉你，我已经是你的俘虏了It t省音

PigeonPresents...Let's Go Round (The World) Again Dec.2018 Hi everyone, Well it is longer than I would have liked to publish this latest playlist. Most of it was ready back in October, but work took over! Then I ended up taking a month off and had an amazing adventure! Started off in London , then Spain, USA, Australia & the Middle East!All the way round the World. An amazing experience.... I am so lucky! Thank you Danny for the best month away! 25 years later & we ended going round again.... MARVELLOUS!! Met some fantastic people on our EPIC travels! Most of these tracks kept me company while I was away , with a few extra tracks I have added while home over the last 3 days. I hope you enjoy this one! Some fab tracks.... Todd Terry-Get down is my fav! The amazing vocalist Amanda Wilson is back , teaming up with Paul Morrell for a banger! Sigala & Kylie! Olly Murs, who knew - love it! Then I had to add Weiss - Feel My Needs. They added extra vocals to my last one which I adore ,so it had to come back on. I hope you like listening to them all as much as me. Happy listening :) 1. Electricity (feat. Diplo & Mark Ronson) Silk City, Dua Lipa 3:58 2. What You Waiting For (feat. Kylie Minogue) Sigala 4:11 3. Ocean (feat. Khalid) [David Guetta Remix] Martin Garrix & David Guetta 3:16 4. Moves (feat. Snoop Dogg) [Wideboys Remix] Olly Murs 3:10 5. No Drama (feat. Craig David) James Hype 2:33 6. Get Down RemixEdit) Todd Terry All Stars 4:56 7. Light Us Up (feat. Calum Scott) [PBH & Jack Shizzle Remix] Matrix & Futurebound 3:50 8. Remember Gryffin & Zohara 3:42 9. We Dance (feat. Supermini) [Radio Edit] Crush Club 2:37 10. Heard It All Before Low Steppa 2:24 11. Found Love (feat. Maurice) [Radio Edit] Roger Martin 3:06 12. Feel My Needs (Turn Around) Weiss (UK) 3:01 13. Dancin' Kinda Close Guz & Tough Love 2:37 14. Hysteria Just Kiddin 3:14 15. REMEDY Alesso 3:10 16. Creative, Pt. II (Jaded Remix) Tulecco 3:25 17. Fade (feat. KimBlee) Solu Music 2:56 18. Let's Go Round Again (Nigel Lowis RemixEdit) Louise 3:48 19. Shame On U (Radio Edit) DJ James Ingram 3:12 20. Move (Time to Get Loose) [Joe Stone Remix] Young Romantic 2:52 21. Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke) CamelPhat & Cristoph 3:14 22. Up In Flames (feat. Amanda Wilson) [Radio Edit] Paul Morrell 3:25 23. Polaroid (Zac Samuel Remix) Jonas Blue, Liam Payne & Lennon Stella 3:40 24. Decisions (feat. Maia Wright) KREAM 3:33 25. Make Luv Jay Pryor 2:48

Hello everyone, and welcome to Movement Radio! Hope you enjoy the the next 60 minutes of the freshest sounds from dance floors over the world. Tracklist 1. Feel My Needs (Purple Disco Machine Extended Mix) - Weiss (UK) 2. Electric Feel (Extended Mix) - PAX 3. They Don't Know (Original Mix) - Disciples 4. We Dance ft. Supermini (Extended Mix) - Crush Club 5. Catfish (Extended Mix) - PAX 6. Tokyo (Ahmed Sendil Remix) - Turn Giddy 7. Sugarhigh (KU 2008 Mix) - King Unique 8. M.S.B.O.Y. - Pryda 9. Finder (Carl Cox Remix) - Ninetoes 10. Future Funk (Original Mix) - Abysm 11. DJ's Gotto Dance More (Original Mix) - Todd Terry, A-Trak 12. Reckoner (Henry Saiz Vocal Mantra Remix) - Radiohead Love, Peace and Beats aPod  

今天的这位歌手Jason Mraz,是流行乐坛里少有的一股清流。他的曲风和歌词大都不仅欢快，而且不管是你听，还是唱都会感到满满的温暖。是不可多得的治愈系歌手。这首Try Try Try,发行于近十年前：歌中唱到：If we just try try try如果我们不断尝试Just to be ni-ni-nice尝试去友好地对待一切Then the world would be a better place for you and I那么这个世界在你我心中将会更加美好虽然会感觉俗俗的，老老的，但真的，只要人人都献出一点爱，世界将变成美好的人间。杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周，另一首歌曲《Make It Mine》获得第52届格莱美奖之最佳流行男歌手奖 。2012年开启“Tour is a four letter word”巡回演唱会。2014年12月与华语歌手林俊杰合作歌曲《I Am Alive》。《Try Try》是一首由美国著名歌手Jason Mraz演唱的欧美风格的歌曲，收录在同名专辑《Try Try Try》当中，于2009年05月发行。歌词省音连读：If we just try try try如果我们不断尝试Just t省音just to be ni-ni-nice尝试去友好地对待一切just t省音to的元音省音Then the world would be a better place for you and I那么这个世界在你我心中将会更加美好world d省音Would d省音be a连读better t浊化and d省音If we just live our lives如果我们用心去生活just t省音Putting our differences aside把一切不和谐抛到一边不去理P utting our连读differences aside连读Oh that would be so beautiful to me哦那这个世界将会是多么美丽that t would d省音to弱读

今天的这位歌手Jason Mraz,是流行乐坛里少有的一股清流。他的曲风和歌词大都不仅欢快，而且不管是你听，还是唱都会感到满满的温暖。是不可多得的治愈系歌手。这首Try Try Try,发行于近十年前：歌中唱到：If we just try try try如果我们不断尝试Just to be ni-ni-nice尝试去友好地对待一切Then the world would be a better place for you and I那么这个世界在你我心中将会更加美好虽然会感觉俗俗的，老老的，但真的，只要人人都献出一点爱，世界将变成美好的人间。杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周，另一首歌曲《Make It Mine》获得第52届格莱美奖之最佳流行男歌手奖 。2012年开启“Tour is a four letter word”巡回演唱会。2014年12月与华语歌手林俊杰合作歌曲《I Am Alive》。《Try Try》是一首由美国著名歌手Jason Mraz演唱的欧美风格的歌曲，收录在同名专辑《Try Try Try》当中，于2009年05月发行。歌词省音连读：If we just try try try如果我们不断尝试Just t省音just to be ni-ni-nice尝试去友好地对待一切just t省音to的元音省音Then the world would be a better place for you and I那么这个世界在你我心中将会更加美好world d省音Would d省音be a连读better t浊化and d省音If we just live our lives如果我们用心去生活just t省音Putting our differences aside把一切不和谐抛到一边不去理P utting our连读differences aside连读Oh that would be so beautiful to me哦那这个世界将会是多么美丽that t would d省音to弱读

今天的这位歌手Jason Mraz,是流行乐坛里少有的一股清流。他的曲风和歌词大都不仅欢快，而且不管是你听，还是唱都会感到满满的温暖。是不可多得的治愈系歌手。这首Try Try Try,发行于近十年前：歌中唱到：If we just try try try如果我们不断尝试Just to be ni-ni-nice尝试去友好地对待一切Then the world would be a better place for you and I那么这个世界在你我心中将会更加美好虽然会感觉俗俗的，老老的，但真的，只要人人都献出一点爱，世界将变成美好的人间。杰森·玛耶兹（Jason Mraz），1977年6月23日出生于美国弗吉尼亚州列治文，美国创作歌手。2002年发行首张专辑《Waiting For My Rocket To Come》出道。2008年发行专辑《We Sing, We Dance, We Steal Things》，专辑歌曲《I'm Yours》在美国公告牌单曲榜上停留76周，另一首歌曲《Make It Mine》获得第52届格莱美奖之最佳流行男歌手奖 。2012年开启“Tour is a four letter word”巡回演唱会。2014年12月与华语歌手林俊杰合作歌曲《I Am Alive》。《Try Try》是一首由美国著名歌手Jason Mraz演唱的欧美风格的歌曲，收录在同名专辑《Try Try Try》当中，于2009年05月发行。歌词省音连读：If we just try try try如果我们不断尝试Just t省音just to be ni-ni-nice尝试去友好地对待一切just t省音to的元音省音Then the world would be a better place for you and I那么这个世界在你我心中将会更加美好world d省音Would d省音be a连读better t浊化and d省音If we just live our lives如果我们用心去生活just t省音Putting our differences aside把一切不和谐抛到一边不去理P utting our连读differences aside连读Oh that would be so beautiful to me哦那这个世界将会是多么美丽that t would d省音to弱读

#terrafutebol: O São Paulo fez o seu melhor primeiro turno da hstória e terminou a metade inicial do Campeonato Brasileiro na liderança. Quem mais ameaça o hepta do time do Morumbi nas próximas 19 rodadas? O clube tricolor terá fôlego para manter esse ritmo até o final? E ainda: as novas apostas de Tite para seu novo ciclo à frente da Seleção após a eliminação na Copa da Rússia. Quem ainda pode ser aproveitado da campanha no Mundial, quem deve ser testado e quem ficou de fora. Ouça agora o 10º episódio do podcast Terra Futebol, que conta com produção e apresentação de Matheus Riga e com comentários de Silvio Barsetti. Participe com comentários e perguntas enviando #TerraPodcast pelo Twitter. (20/08/2018) Músicas: "Hitting the Streets", de JR Tundra, "We Dance", de Coyote Hearing, e "Modern Rock Boy", de Audionautix - YouTube Audio Library

We're smack-dab in the middle of crawfish season, and to help us celebrate we meet up with Chef Mark Grandpre of Los Angeles' Beaucoup Crawfish Catering. Mark's a New Orleans native who migrated to the West Coast 20 years ago to pursue a career as a basketball coach and teacher. He's still working the court and classroom during the week, but on the weekends he's drawing in the masses with his delectable crawfish boils and Creole cooking. Brooklyn pop dance duo, Crush Club, cruises into the studio and gets us groovin' with a live performance. Wielding funk, house and Latin-style percussion influences, the band's garnered a strong following with popular singles like "Louder" and "We Dance." They talk to us in depth about dance lyrics, and the all important bass bod. Snacky Tunes is powered by Simplecast

“I don’t dance” is music to the ears of Bec Reid. It’s a provocation and an invitation. For those who are not dancers, the dance floor can seem incredibly overwhelming ­­– the idea of moving a body in a way that is outside of the ‘normal’ is frightening. But what are we afraid of? Bec’s advice to these wall flowers is: “Back yourself, you will be alright.”Inspirational artist Bec Reid works across social divides, between rural and urban communities and across all demographics and backgrounds. She brings people closer through dance.Bec started dance in her mid teens, changing her direction from either going to save the whales or becoming a journalist. Dance grabbed her! Growing up in Tasmania, she moved away to study at the Western Australian Academy of Performing Arts (WAAPA).Upon finishing study along with Luke George (who is profiled in an upcoming episode), Bec became the Co-Artistic Director of Stompin Youth Dance Company in Tasmania from 2002 to 2008.“I have committed to rest of my dancing life, to making dance as inclusive as possible because my experience was very welcoming.”She is passionate about making dance available to everyone. Her list of achievements, collaborations, projects and commissions is immense. Even those who know Bec best, struggle to keep up with her number of projects and touring schedules. Despite this, “busy” is not a word you will ever hear her utter.Bec is the co-artistic director of All The Queens Men, a company that champions social equality by providing creative opportunities for diverse members of society. Bec’s dance and creative talent shines through so many of their projects including, Fun Run, The Coming Back Out Ball and LGBTI Elders Dance Club. Bec also works with Every Body NOW! a company that creates participatory and large-scale experiences that engage communities. Every Body NOW! is soon to open Yes, We Dance! for Bleach* Festival, which coincides with the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games.“For me dance says literally everything, I will watch someone dancing long before I say hello to them of start talking.”

Emission improvisée depuis la boutique "Au bon souvenir"Animée et mise en musique par Cyril Doche Benavente Diaz — "Color color Punchituchay"Alain Péters — Complainte pour mon défunt papa"Mahmoud Ahmed — "Tezeta"Francis Bebey" — "Sunny Crypt"Robert Mitchum — "Beauty is Only Skin Deep"Serge Gainsbourg — "Cha cha cha du Loup" (instrumental)Mongo Santamaria — "Gabrielle"Moby — "Run On"Fever Ray — "Triangle Walks"Blvck Sand — "Variations"Boards of Canada — "Open the light"Arne Vinzon — "Les belles structures — variations"Aphex Twin — "aisatsana (102)Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band — "I'm Glad"Chokebore — "Person You Chose"J Mascis — "Wide Awake"Pavement — "We Dance"Elvis Perkins — "The Night & The Liquor"The Clash — "Straight to Hell"J.C.Satàn — Ti Amo Davvero"Damaged Bug — "Transmute"Chafouin — "La gorge"David Lynch — "These are my friends"Eleanor Shine — "Territoire"France Gall — "Amor Tambien"Niagara — "Encore un dernier baiser"Ghostpoet — "Be Right Back, Moving House"Lado and the Rockers — "Viens"Louie Baltazar — "Disco Placebo"The Bran Flakes — "Van Pop"

The 10th edition of Men has been a long time coming but I think it's worth the wait. This edition celebrating male artists has tracks from Ed Sheeran, Maroon 5, Nathan Sykes, Steve Grand & even the Biebs. Stand out mixes come from Tony Moran, Division 4, Danny Verde & of course, the amazing 7th Heaven to name a few. This all male testosterone hit should keep you UP! & dancing all night. Enjoy Anthony 1/ "YOU'RE NOT ALONE" (Cahill Club Mix) - JAKE AND JOE 2/ "CASTLE ON THE HILL" (Country Club Martini Crew Remix) - ED SHEERAN 3/ "SUGAR" (Division 4 Club Mix) - MAROON 5 4/ "CAN'T STOP THE FEELING" (Division 4 Club Mix) - JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE 5/ "THERE'S ONLY ONE YOU" (7th Heaven Club Remix) - NATHAN SYKES 6/ "SUNLIGHT" (7th Heaven Club Mix) - NICKY BYRNE 7/ "DANCING ON MY OWN" (Danny Verde Remix) - CALUM SCOTT 8/ "WE ARE THE NIGHT" (Dave Aude` Club Mix) - STEVE GRAND 9/ "COLD WATER" (DrewG. & Brian Cua Club Mix) - MAJOR LAZAR ft. JUSTIN BIEBER 10/ "SHOW ME LOVE" (Tony Moran's All Love Club Mix) - BRIAN JUSTIN CRUM 11/ "WITHOUT YOU" (Joe Gauthreaux Epic Club Rewerk) - DAVID GUETTA ft. USHER 12/ "WE LAUGH, WE DANCE, WE CRY" (Bimbo Jones Club Remix) - RASMUS FABER ft. LINUS NORDE 13/ "WE LIVE" (Jimmy Gomez Extended Club Mix) - JONATHAN PIERCE

Here's the thing about social media; it's supposed to be social. Right there in the name. And yet, across the Internet there are millions of public videos, photos and posts that almost no one has watched, clicked or shared. Which begs the question: If a person puts a video on YouTube, and no one watches, did it even happen? Joe Veix wrote for Fusion about what he calls the Lonely Web. "It lives in the murky space between the mainstream and the deep webs. The content is public and indexed by search engines, but broadcast to a tiny audience, algorithmically filtered out, and/or difficult to find using traditional search techniques." Just to focus on YouTube, the company reports that over 400 hours of video are uploaded every minute. Nobody can watch all this stuff. But it's there... waiting. Joe tells Manoush that watching these videos can give you a refreshingly honest look into someone's life, as opposed to the more edited and filtered versions that many of us share. "But is also emotionally exhausting," he says. "Because on some level you are maybe not supposed to be watching these videos. It's a little voyeuristic." In many ways, the present-day Internet caters to our laziness. The people who work at media companies are pros at understanding our expectations, finding buzzy content, slapping on the perfect headline and setting it right in front of our eyes. The Lonely Web offers something different — its headline might just be a string of numbers, and it doesn't care about your expectations. It's up to you to go out and find it. But first, let Joe and Manoush be your guide by listening to this week's episode. Here are the painfully ordinary, yet somehow wonderful videos they discuss:         If you're looking for more Lonely Web videos, look no further: They're right here. Subscribe to Note to Self on iTunes, Stitcher, TuneIn, I Heart Radio, Pocket Casts or anywhere else using our RSS feed.

Margaritas: 3 Nachos: 3 - This trip was to one of our favorite family run mexican restaurants in North Phoenix: Via Delosantos. Like Corbins it is close to our bike trails and close to the house so we go there fairly often. Consistently good food and service.Featured Song: Jason Mraz - We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things. - I'm YoursCentral Ave. & DunlapPhoenix, AZ(602) 997-6239 Google Map