Podcast appearances and mentions of jeff salzman

Hey Folks, This week we're looking at Maestro, Bradley Cooper's new movie about Leonard Bernstein. Bernstein has been a favorite of mine since I happened upon a lecture he gave in the 70s charting the development of music from a single note to the full musical polyphony we have today, as well as the two polarities in nature that transform sound into art (The Greatest Five Minutes in Musical Education). Maestro tells the story of Bernstein in three distinct periods, each rendered with the perspective and language of the time, quite literally in the first segment which is filmed in 35mm black and white and spoken in the Mid-Atlantic accent. It's one of the best attempts I've seen at resisting interpreting the past through contemporary sensibilities. As such we get a palpable transmission of the evolution of not only the artist himself but also the culture at large. This episode is edited from my live Fireside Chat, hosted by the Integral Life practice community. Nomali Perera, the founder of the community (and lover of Maestro), and several listeners weigh in too. I hope you can join us for the next Fireside Chat on Wednesday, February 21, at 1pm PT, 9pm GMT, where we look at culture and politics through an integral lens. I hope you enjoy the episode and check out Maestro on Netflix and in theaters. Jeff Salzman

This is an excerpt from a conversation Jeff Salzman with the Developmental Alliance, with a brief preface from yours truly. Jeff posts Integral takes on the news regularly at https://www.youtube.com/@UCCa3meEuah-lc2lIMX2BTng (and I often join him!)  

Ankur and I take an integral look at the Russel Brand sex scandal and how it is raising consciousness. We talk about: Presentism: a moving target * The power (and limits) of consent * Green sexuality's great contributions and what it keeps in shadow * Cancellation, big media, and the evolution of collective consciousness * The emerging practice of holding multiple opinions. Enjoy the podcast!! Jeff Salzman, The Daily Evolver Ankur Delight, 10,000 Heroes Announcements Check out my Twitter feed for up-to-the minute observations.  My friend Ankur Delight is hosting an in-person coaching event in Seattle this fall (December 7th-10th). It’s called The Night Vision Summit and the point is to help every participant make major breakthroughs towards their personal and professional goals. You’ll get personal coaching from Ankur in a deeply supportive community environment of authenticity, connection, and delicious food. For more info, check out his description here, or email ankur@momentumlab.com NEXT LIVE FIRESIDE CHAT: October 4th Join me for a live look at current events and culture through an integral lens. Free Zoom link here Join other live events at Integral Life – many free events open to all.

We saw a powerful eruption of red warrior consciousness in the recent saga involving mob boss Vladimir Putin and his renegade enforcer, the late Yevgeny Prigozhin. Rudy Guiliani is also playing with fire. Ankur Delight and I find the integral threads. – Jeff Salzman

Hey folks, Barbie tells the story of the cultural evolution of women in three stages. In the traditional world girls play with baby dolls, practicing the sacred roles of domesticity and motherhood. The Barbie doll, introduced in 1959, represents a modern sensibility, first as a fashion doll with which girls could express themselves, then as a feminist trailblazer who could do anything and go anywhere, including the moon and the White House. A billion dolls later, Barbie, the movie, tells this developmental story in a thoroughly postmodern way. It's a frolicking, hot-pink, meta-mishmash of feminist critique, teenage angst, existential dread, gender-fluidity (asexuality featured), power-dynamics and a perpetual war on the patriarchy. All of which gets us … not very far. Margot Robbie is perfection in the role. More in the episode – enjoy! Jeff Salzman

Taking a little summer break from the news, Ankur Delight and I turn our attention to a subject that has fascinated – and terrified – human beings since day one: what happens when we die? What might the integral answer to that question be? Enjoy the episode! Ankur Delight – 10,000 Heroes podcast Jeff Salzman – The Daily Evolver podcast _________________________ Join me at the live Fireside Chat I do two Fireside Chats a month, on the first and third Wednesday. The next one is on Wednesday, August 2nd at 2pm MT, 4pm ET. Join us – it's freewheeling integral fun! Zoom link here. You can also add it to your calendar here. Join other events at Integral Life here – many free events open to all.

Hey folks! In this episode, I look at the evolutionary significance of our emerging mediaverse, with its gusher of entertainment coming to us from all over the world. How do we navigate it? We ask our friends! In that spirit I offer: My favorite TV series of all time My least favorite movie of the year, and why it's my fault The Flintstone Effect: projecting modern consciousness onto premodern times The battle (in my head) between Robert Eggers (yay!) and Taylor Sheridan (boo!) This episode is edited from the regular Fireside Chat I host with the Integral Life Practice community. Check out all their offerings on integral living at www.integrallife.com/calendar Join me for the next live Fireside Chat I do two a Fireside Chats a month, on the first and third Wednesday. The next one is this coming Wednesday, July 19th at 2pm MT, 4pm ET. Join us – it's freewheeling integral fun! Zoom link here. Enjoy the episode! Jeff Salzman

This week Ankur and I share our 4th of July experiences and chart the different routes we took to a more integral appreciation of America. Enjoy! – Jeff Ankur Delight – 10,000 Heroes podcast Jeff Salzman – The Daily Evolver podcast Lee Mead’s Anthem (for a taste of integral patriotism)

In this short episode, we bring an integral lens to a controversial New York Times story, “Nazi Symbols on Ukraine's Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History”. Jeff Salzman, The Daily Evolver Podcast Ankur Delight – 10,000 Heroes podcast

In this episode, Jeff Salzman and Ankur Delight look at some of the questions involving the emerging workplace: Will artificial intelligence be able to create? How do we integrate the goals of achievement and growth with the goals of equity and sustainability? What is the role of people who can't or won't fit into the system?

In this episode, Jeff Salzman and Ankur Delight look at the culture war and explore exciting new insights Ankur has gained from training with mediation master Ken Cloke.

  What did this episode awaken in you? Don't be shy. https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow   Welcome to the first interview of Season 6. As you may know, I want to devote this season to Conflict.   I took this course in Mediation, the light has been revealed to me, and now I see every conflict as an integral part of my spiritual path.   And by extension, of your spiritual path as well.    My guest today is Greg Thomas. He's a musician, he's a producer, he's a scholar. I actually know very little of his credentials, but he's a friend of Jeff Salzman, so I was very excited to talk to him. And he blew me away. I fell in love with this guy and I think you will too.   What I loved the most was how he reframes villainy and antagonism as essential parts of any heroic journey, so look out for that and get ready to be grateful for every difficult person and moment you've ever experienced, because that's the logical corrolary of what he's saying.   And what I appreciated most about Greg was his vulnerability. He could have stayed abstract and talked about music and conflict and racialization and racism, but no, he took it real and talked about his journey with relationships, with polyamory and monogamy and parenthood, and that's part of why I was so taken with him. His honesty and his sincerity, not just the depth of his experience and his analysis.   So thank you Greg and I'm really delighted to present this interview to you all.   Show Links: Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Podcast website: http://momentumlab.com/podcast Momentum Lab: http://www.momentumlab.com   Guest References: https://www.jazzleadershipproject.com/ https://www.tuneintoleadership.com/blog https://twitter.com/gregthomas22 About our sponsor: 10,000 Heroes is brought to you by Momentum Lab.    I normally refer to Momentum Lab as an experiment-based coaching program or a goal accelerator.   But it's beyond that. It's a deep investigation into Purpose, Vision, and what it takes to achieve our goals in every area of life.   If you're interested in falling in love with who you are, what you're doing, or what you're surrounded with, there's two roads:   Accepting what is Transforming your situation   We help you do both.    The best way of learning more is to sign up for our weekly email: (Momentum) Lab Notes   http://momentumlab.com/podcast  

Hey Folks, In this Daily Evolver I explore a variety of topics:  A telling difference between green art and integral art  – Learn more about the Lost Birds music here. Yes, stages exist but maybe the spiral is spiked Traditionalism's hot war on modernity in Ukraine Ghosts: an integrally-flavored tv comedy! This episode is recorded […] The post Green Art, Stage Debate, Ukraine/Russia appeared first on The Daily Evolver.

What did this episode awaken in you? Don't be shy. https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow   I'm continuing the thread Jeff Salzman laid out for me last week, and investigating what is GOOD and BEAUTIFUL about the “Red” level of development. Specifically: Anger, Adrenaline, and the Warrior mindset.   Show Links: Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Podcast website: http://momentumlab.com/podcast Momentum Lab: http://www.momentumlab.com   About our sponsor: 10,000 Heroes is brought to you by Momentum Lab.    I normally refer to Momentum Lab as an experiment-based coaching program or a goal accelerator.   But it's beyond that. It's a deep investigation into Purpose, Vision, and what it takes to achieve our goals in every area of life.   If you're interested in falling in love with who you are, what you're doing, or what you're surrounded with, there's two roads:   Accepting what is Transforming your situation   We help you do both.    The best way of learning more is to sign up for our weekly email: (Momentum) Lab Notes   http://momentumlab.com/podcast  

Today I'm going to make the experiment a bit personal. If I'm here to be my fullest most integrated self, and live up to my potential, then Jeff Salzman would probably tell me I had to integrate ALL the wisdom and ALL the learning from every stage of our human journey, both personal and societal.   In fact, that's exactly what he told me in this episode, and he gave me some hints on how to to do it, especially with regard to anger, conflict, and the power of raw emotion.   Consider this Part I in the journey…   Show Links: Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Podcast website: http://momentumlab.com/podcast Momentum Lab: http://www.momentumlab.com   About our sponsor: 10,000 Heroes is brought to you by Momentum Lab.    I normally refer to Momentum Lab as an experiment-based coaching program or a goal accelerator.   But it's beyond that. It's a deep investigation into Purpose, Vision, and what it takes to achieve our goals in every area of life.   If you're interested in falling in love with who you are, what you're doing, or what you're surrounded with, there's two roads:   Accepting what is Transforming your situation   We help you do both.    The best way of learning more is to sign up for our weekly email: (Momentum) Lab Notes   http://momentumlab.com/podcast  

Part of our ongoing conversation with Jeff Salzman is how to integrate multiple points of view, so we can learn and include as we go through life instead of just Rejecting Things We Don't Like.   Jeff highlights for us how that integration often happens: through Boredom. He gives an example from his own life if getting Bored with his own perspective, and letting that open him to other ways interpretations.   I like his take because there's nothing saintly about it. It's not the result of ascetic practices or even meditation. It just takes performing the same strategy over and over (which we all do) regardless of whether it works (usually doesn't) until we get to the realization: “I should try something else”.   Which is what he does…   Show Links: Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Podcast website: http://momentumlab.com/podcast Momentum Lab: http://www.momentumlab.com   About our sponsor: 10,000 Heroes is brought to you by Momentum Lab.    I normally refer to Momentum Lab as an experiment-based coaching program or a goal accelerator.   But it's beyond that. It's a deep investigation into Purpose, Vision, and what it takes to achieve our goals in every area of life.   If you're interested in falling in love with who you are, what you're doing, or what you're surrounded with, there's two roads:   Accepting what is Transforming your situation   We help you do both.    The best way of learning more is to sign up for our weekly email: (Momentum) Lab Notes   http://momentumlab.com/podcast  

  The whole point of the Teal Society project is this gambit that every side, every perspective, is holding on to a fragment of The Truth. And that this Truth, this Right Thing, exists, and we can find it if we put together our puzzle pieces in just the right way.   So I thought of the most contentious and heart-rending issue out there – at the center of the culture wars – and asked Jeff to give “The Integral Take” on it, which he very kindly did.    The approach he presented is pure integral. The solution he laid out comes from Steve McIntosh and the Institute of Cultural Evolution. Here's the reference:   https://www.culturalevolution.org/platform-of-policy-recommendations/abortion/ Show Links: Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Podcast website: http://momentumlab.com/podcast Momentum Lab: http://www.momentumlab.com   About our sponsor: 10,000 Heroes is brought to you by Momentum Lab.    I normally refer to Momentum Lab as an experiment-based coaching program or a goal accelerator.   But it's beyond that. It's a deep investigation into Purpose, Vision, and what it takes to achieve our goals in every area of life.   If you're interested in falling in love with who you are, what you're doing, or what you're surrounded with, there's two roads:   Accepting what is Transforming your situation   We help you do both.    The best way of learning more is to sign up for our weekly email: (Momentum) Lab Notes   http://momentumlab.com/podcast  

  Hey, Ankur here. I really stuck my neck out on this one: Recklessly recording an off-the-cuff definition of a term people have worked on for decades (Teal) Playing that definition live for a personal hero of mine (Jeff Salzman, host of the Daily Evolver, and 10kk #00041) Giving him the microphone to comment on it.   Luckily, it wasn't that bad… But Jeff does a lovely job of providing all the context I left out of the Solocast on the Teal Society (#00046). And if you didn't listen to that one (tsk, tsk), no worries, because I air a 1-minute of excerpt of it here… http://10kh.show/00046-ank-on-the-teal-society-moral-relativism-loving-your-enemies-gandhi-mlk-jr-and-you  http://10kh.show/00041-jeff-salzman-takes-on-twitter-and-readies-the-road-for-the-next-jeff-salzman Show Links: Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Podcast website: http://momentumlab.com/podcast Momentum Lab: http://www.momentumlab.com   Guest References: Website: dailyevolver.com Twitter: @dailyevolver   About our sponsor: 10,000 Heroes is brought to you by Momentum Lab.    I normally refer to Momentum Lab as an experiment-based coaching program or a goal accelerator.   But it's beyond that. It's a deep investigation into Purpose, Vision, and what it takes to achieve our goals in every area of life.   If you're interested in falling in love with who you are, what you're doing, or what you're surrounded with, there's two roads:   Accepting what is Transforming your situation   We help you do both.    The best way of learning more is to sign up for our weekly email: (Momentum) Lab Notes   http://momentumlab.com/podcast

I have two main goals with these solocasts: advancing the mission of this podcast, and getting more interaction with our listener community. So far it's working: I just had a conversation with Jeff Salzman (#00041) about my definition of the Teal Society last time around (#00046).   I thought he was going to body slam me, and maybe he did, but it was surprisingly gentle.   So this time, I'm going to talk about Gandhi, who is one of my true loves and teachers. My proposal is that, as hard as Gandhi is to grok, the enlightenment-era project of the scientific method is equally difficult to grasp and live. And equally important.   As I say in the episode, this is all heading towards the importance of community.   Translation: Throwing amazing dinner parties with delicious cocktails. Mescal and amaro as my co-host would say.    Sneak preview: This morning I talked to one of mentors, John Guiliano (#00053). He had just finished re-reading Gandhi's autobiography during a 3-day silent fast he (John) just concluded. I got his hot take on this episode and that'll be out soon too.   Show Links: Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Podcast website: http://www.10kh.show Momentum Lab: http://www.momentumlab.com   About our sponsor: 10,000 Heroes is brought to you by Momentum Lab.    I normally refer to Momentum Lab as an experiment-based coaching program or a goal accelerator.   But it's beyond that. It's a deep investigation into Purpose, Vision, and what it takes to achieve our goals in every area of life.   If you're interested in falling in love with who you are, what you're doing, or what you're surrounded with, there's two roads:   Accepting what is Transforming your situation   We help you do both.    The best way of learning more is to sign up for our weekly email: (Momentum) Lab Notes   http://momentumlab.com/podcast  

As my regular listeners will know, I'm deeply influenced by the perspective known as Integral philosophy, and in particular, the insights it affords us into how human culture has evolved—and is still evolving today. This perspective informs the conversations I have on this podcast, to one degree or another. But every now and again, I get the opportunity to welcome a guest who is deeply versed in this philosophy, and we get to have a conversation that more explicitly and directly explores the nuances of this unique way of looking at the world. Since this is a somewhat regular occurrence, I've dubbed these Integral Conversations, and I'm thrilled to share this one, with my friend and colleague Jeff Salzman, creator of the Daily Evolver podcast and fellow board member at the Institute for Cultural Evolution.For well over a decade now, Jeff has been bringing the insights of integral theory and philosophy right down to the ground level, applying them to the social and political issues of the moment. Integral thinkers are often focused on big-picture insights about history and worldviews and consciousness, so Jeff's commitment to making these ideas accessible and relevant to current events is refreshing—as is his unwavering confidence that culture is indeed evolving, despite what the headlines might suggest. In this wide-ranging conversation, Jeff and I tackle the culture wars, social media, Elon Musk, the war in Ukraine, identity politics, and more.

    Ten Thousand Heroes is a show about vision, meaning, and purpose. We seek inspiration from people actively living their purpose and share their insights, tips, and struggles with you. Today's episode is a debrief.Join our hosts Ankur Shah Delight and Nathan Ramos as they debrief last week's interview with Jeff Salzman   Nate and Ank unpack Jeff's decision to take on twitter and his contribution to the Integral movement   Join us, and let's jump in!   Show Links: Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Twitter: @10khshow

This is Ten Thousand Heroes and I'm your host Ankur Shah Delight.   Ten Thousand Heroes is about Purpose, Vision, and Inspiration. I see us all as arrows of love contributing to the evolution of human happiness and consciousness, each in our own unique and perfect way.    My conversation today was with Jeff Salzman, who is best known for his podcast The Daily Evolver. We've run into the integral worldview a couple of times on this show, and Jeff is one of its best known proponents.    I left the conversation with a deep sense of relaxation, because that's what Jeff exudes. If you're looking for an antidote to all the fear-mongering and restlessness and stress that is so accessible, but without ignoring the giant issues at stake, this episode is for you.    Before we start – a little reminder – our movement, Momentum Lab, is having its 2nd ever in person gathering. We're getting together from December 15th-18th at Joshua Tree california for a transformative retreat. If you want to get the next level of clarity into your personal Purpose and Vision with me and the rest of the Momentum Lab core team, I highly suggest you check it out.    It's called the Night Vision Summit and the details are at momentumlab.com slash n v s. n v s like night vision summit. Or be modern and click on the link in the show notes.   Ok! Welcome back to the show, and Welcome Jeff Salzman. Let's jump in.   Show Links: Night Vision Summit description: https://momentumlab.com/nvs Voicemail:  https://www.speakpipe.com/10khshow Email: info@10kh.show Twitter: @10khshow   Guest References: Website: dailyevolver.com Twitter: @dailyevolver

Bored with the whole left vs right gridlock? Could this culture war make us stronger? Jeff Salzman (The Daily Evolver) discusses Ken Wilber's integral theory and how it can help us navigate a conflicted world. https://www.thenewmanpodcast.com/2022/11/integral-theory-jeff-salzman What are the 3 Steps to Find Clarity and Get Unstuck? Watch the free video course now. Visit https://www.TrippLanier.com Most men will let fear get the best of them. This book is not for most men. This Book Will Make You Dangerous is a swift kick in the ass that will make you laugh out loud. It's a practical guide to play for what we truly want, to get over ourselves, and have a ton of fun along the way. This Book Will Make You Dangerous is now available at DangerousBookstore.com. http://dangerousbookstore.com

This week I spoke with Jeff Salzman about Integral Theory (the idea that culture and consciousness have been, and will continually evolve) and how it applies to what's shaping our world right now. If you want another frame to help you understand turbulent times, this will be helpful. Listen here for the full episode.   Useful Links: https://www.dailyevolver.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/DailyEvolver https://twitter.com/dailyevolver https://relationshipschool.com/relationshipmastery/ https://relationshipschool.com/getcoachingnow https://www.gettingtozerobook.com

In this clip is a response to a question Jeff Salzman received from listener Kathleen on the human dynamics of whether we care more for others who resemble us. This is a BiteSize clip from the full video that can be viewed here. The post People Who Look Like Me (6 minutes): A BiteSize Evolver appeared first on The Daily Evolver.

Sometimes in our psychological development the way forward requires us to go back, to re-explore earlier stages of life to see what is distorted or left unintegrated. This is the theme of the work of my guest today, developmental psychotherapist Kim Barta. He discusses his approach to personal growth, which is based on the STAGES Model of Development created by well-known developmental theorist Terri O'Fallon (who is also Kim's sister.). Using psychotherapeutic practices, shadow work and meditation, Kim has devised a comprehensive system of self-exploration with stopovers at every stage of development, designed to bring the gifts and powers of that stage online. Shoring up our developmental scaffolding in this way makes us able – and worthy – to grow into the higher stages of integral consciousness, which Kim and the STAGES model also beautifully illuminate. I hope you enjoy my conversation with Kim Barta! – Jeff Salzman

The sexual evolution continues! This week I look at the controversy raging over the dramatic emergence of transsexual identity and gender fluidity, particularly among young people. I place it in the context of the stage transformations of sex and gender through history, and even get a little personal. I hope you enjoy the episode! –Jeff Salzman

In this episode of the Shrink and the Pundit, Dr. Keith Witt and I discuss a powerful realization emerging at the leading edge of culture regarding the role of trauma in our lives. Dr. Keith is writing a book on the subject and has mined various psychotherapeutic modalities to create an integral approach to using trauma as a portal to health and higher consciousness. In our wide-ranging conversation we address: Trauma and resilience as forms of memory * The differences – and similarities – between ongoing trauma and “major event” traumas such as accidents, violence and illness * Trauma through human history * Sensitive vs sensitized: the healthy and unhealthy poles of postmodern consciousness * What child-centered parenting misses * The biological drive to have a spiritually-awakened brain * Updating your autobiographical narratives * Trauma and the self-transforming mind. I really loved this conversation and I hope you do, too! – Jeff Salzman

In this series of discussions, Daily Evolver host Jeff Salzman talks to Corey deVos and Nomali Perera about some crucial perspectives and practices to help us bring more clarity to our thinking, and more depth to our hearts, as we witness the brutal realities of war in Ukraine.

In this series of discussions, Daily Evolver host Jeff Salzman talks to Corey deVos and Nomali Perera about some crucial perspectives and practices to help us bring more clarity to our thinking, and more depth to our hearts, as we witness the brutal realities of war in Ukraine.

In this series of discussions, Daily Evolver host Jeff Salzman talks to Corey deVos and Nomali Perera about some crucial perspectives and practices to help us bring more clarity to our thinking, and more depth to our hearts, as we witness the brutal realities of war in Ukraine.

In this series of discussions, Daily Evolver host Jeff Salzman talks to Corey deVos and Nomali Perera about some crucial perspectives and practices to help us bring more clarity to our thinking, and more depth to our hearts, as we witness the brutal realities of war in Ukraine.

Integral philosophy has been a big influence on many of Rebel Wisdom's guests over the years. So we brought together three key figures, meditator and mediator Diane Musho Hamilton, the host of the popular Daily Evolver podcast Jeff Salzman and the author of the book Developmental Politics, Steve McIntosh. They talked about how the integral map can help make sense of the responses to the pandemic, we discussed Jordan Peterson and the Intellectual Dark Web, and also responded to recent critiques of developmental thinking from the likes of Nora Bateson. This was a dialogue and Q&A with Rebel Wisdom members in our Digital Campfire.

Ep. 2 (Part 2 of 2) | A candid conversation with endearing, brilliant, and optimistic Integral pundit Jeff Salzman of The Daily Evolver podcast, ranging from global current events to personal spiritual turning points. This talk delves into culture wars, polarization, discernment versus condemnation, how our psychological development determines political attitudes and values, and how Integral perspectives help us understand them all. Jeff Salzman is a current events junkie who delights in interpreting emerging politics and culture through a lens of consciousness evolution, presented in his lively and informative podcast, The Daily Evolver. For three years, Jeff worked with Ken Wilber in developing the Integral Institute and their historic seminars on integral application in business, psychology, and spirituality. Jeff is also on the board of philosopher Steve McIntosh's think tank, The Institute for Cultural Evolution, and co-founder of CareerTrack Training, an adult education company. A long-time practitioner in several spiritual traditions, Jeff has taught meditation and led many retreats. He has a master's degree in Indo-Tibetan Buddhism from Naropa University. Topics & Timestamps - Part 2Afghanistan best case scenario and Integral fundamentalism (00:52) All fear drops in the new developmental tier (03:38) On integrating multiple perspectives; cultivating discernment and fostering acceptance simultaneously (05:32) How mindfulness practice can go bad (10:52) Peter Levine and somatic releasing: spiritual practice alone doesn't do it (13:04) Finding God, faith, a don't know space, 2nd person practice (13:47) On being in the zone and Ken Wilber's early flow days (24:21) The practice of remembering God (27:12) Making friends with death (31:36) How Ken Wilber's Integral illuminates reality (33:17) Current metatheories and the developmental lens (39:08) One's own suffering becomes a portal into the suffering of others: the Bodhisattva aspiration (46:51) Physical body, energetic body, spiritual body (51:11) Resources & References - Part 2Carl Jung, https://amzn.to/3gnt2XR (Psychology and Religion: West and East, Vol II)* Dan Lawton, https://danlawton.substack.com/p/when-buddhism-goes-bad (When Buddhism Goes Bad) Peter Levine, https://amzn.to/3HGDWUA (Waking the Tiger)* Scott Peck, https://amzn.to/3Lc1rXV (The Road Less Traveled)* Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, https://www.amazon.com/Flow-Psychology-Experience-Perennial-Classics/dp/0061339202 (Fl)https://amzn.to/3AZYwwH (ow)* Walt Whitman, https://amzn.to/3B0Um7Z (Leaves of Grass)* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zusha_of_Hanipol (Rabbi Meshulam Zusha of Anapoli) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_realism_(philosophy_of_the_social_sciences) (Critical realism) Edgar Morin, https://amzn.to/3utG9PE (Complexity Theory)* Jeff Salzman's https://www.dailyevolver.com/ (The Daily Evolver) podcast Jeff Salzman's https://post-progressive.org/videos-podcasts/this-week-in-the-new-york-times/ (The Post-Progressive Post) podcast * As an Amazon Associate, Deep Transformation earns from qualifying purchases. Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos Show Notes by https://www.heidimitchelleditor.com/ (Heidi Mitchell)

Ep. 1 (Part 1 of 2) | A candid conversation with endearing, brilliant, and optimistic Integral pundit Jeff Salzman of The Daily Evolver podcast, ranging from global current events to personal spiritual turning points. This talk delves into culture wars, polarization, discernment versus condemnation, how our psychological development determines political attitudes and values, and how Integral perspectives help us understand them all. Jeff Salzman is a current events junkie who delights in interpreting emerging politics and culture through a lens of consciousness evolution, presented in his lively and informative podcast, The Daily Evolver. For three years, Jeff worked with Ken Wilber in developing the Integral Institute and their historic seminars on integral application in business, psychology, and spirituality. Jeff is also on the board of philosopher Steve McIntosh's think tank, The Institute for Cultural Evolution, and co-founder of CareerTrack Training, an adult education company. A long-time practitioner in several spiritual traditions, Jeff has taught meditation and led many retreats. He has a master's degree in Indo-Tibetan Buddhism from Naropa University. Topics & Timestamps - Part 1Bringing Integral theory, big-picture, deep-picture, multiple perspectives to current events: that's Jeff! (03:59) Stages of development and how culture wars & our current polarization is necessary for our evolution (09:00) Our individual cosmic address, integrating stages of consciousness, the mythic self, and the new tier emerging from post-modernity (10:55) Jeff's own life stages — the tribal stage, the red f*** you phase, modern Jeff vs. traditional Jeff vs. postmodern Jeff and how Integral can make all of it work for all of us (13:58) MAGAstan vs. Woke-astan (21:39) Traditionalists, modernists, and postmodernists dysfunctional sides: welcome to evolution (28:35) The agenda of the universe (40:55) Resources & References - Part 1Jeff Salzman's https://www.dailyevolver.com/ (The Daily Evolver) podcast Jeff Salzman's https://post-progressive.org/videos-podcasts/this-week-in-the-new-york-times/ (The Post-Progressive Post) podcast Ken Wilber, https://amzn.to/3LdAXp2 (One Taste)* Ayn Rand, https://amzn.to/3glRpFD (The Fountainhead)* Fifth studio album by English rock band Yes, https://amzn.to/35RIJVq (Close to the Edge)* Ken Wilber, https://amzn.to/34FPx88 (Up from Eden)* Joseph Campbell, https://amzn.to/3JaNyaR (The Hero's Journey)* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_W._Graves (Clare Graves), the Sensitive Self, adult developmental stages psychologist foundational to Spiral Dynamics * As an Amazon Associate, Deep Transformation earns from qualifying purchases. Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos Show Notes by https://www.heidimitchelleditor.com/ (Heidi Mitchell)

Jeff Salzman considers the question, what is it like to experience integral consciousness?  How does one feel, relate and function differently?  Also, letters from listeners.   The post Bite Size: Experiencing Integral – 20 minutes appeared first on The Daily Evolver.

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Before immersing myself in the integral community, I envisioned a utopian setting where everyone got along and were on the same page. Come to find that's not the case. So, why isn't integral more popular? Why does the subject of development trigger pushback? How should an integralist participate in the world? Jeff Salzman has the answers. Most of you will know Jeff as the host of the the integral podcast, the Daily Evolver. Daily Evolver identifies as a "post-progressive look at politics and culture". Daily Evolver is my E!News-and I mean this in the highest regard. Jeff is a gifted straightshooter of integral theory and a wonderful host. I had the opportunity to switch chairs and interview him. In a world where many are chomping at the bit to argue with their neighbor rather than to help them, integral theory (at its best) offers us a tool to orient ourselves onto the path of Eros. Jeff's antidote is simple: re-enchant the world that we live in and slay our dragons. Grab your wand and sharpen your sword! I hope you enjoy. You can find out more about Jeff and the Daily Evolver here: https://www.dailyevolver.com

In this conversation with Jeff Salzman we explore how incorporating the three major worldviews of Traditionalism, Modernity and Postmodernity into ourselves can expand our identity, making us stronger, wiser and more empathetic. These three worlviews are tearing each other apart in the 'culture wars' out there in mainstream culture. This culture war is repeated inside the psyche of individuals too. We can heal these wounds by understanding and feeling the unique benefits of each worldview while moving away from their unique downsides. For more information on my work please check out www.bodyheartmindspirit.co.uk on facebook https://www.facebook.com/bodyheartmindspirituk For more information on Jeff Salzman's work please visit www.dailyevolver.com and the 'Daily Evolver' podcast Music by Ralph Cree https://soundcloud.com/ralphcree P and C owned Ralph Cree 2021

Diane Musho Hamilton (award-winning mediator and Zen Roshi) and Jeff Salzman (integral political commentator and host of The Daily Evolver) join Terry to react, reflect, and take to heart this week’s historic, record-breaking, and, in many ways disturbing U.S. election. In true 2020 fashion, the election insisted on being an ordeal, and it will of course continue to challenge our collective patience, sensemaking, compassion, and resilience for weeks (perhaps even months) to come.  On Tuesday November 8, 2016 Diane, Jeff, and Terry gathered in Boulder to celebrate Hillary Clinton’s victory together (Ha ha!). The next day they recorded “The Trump Era: Day 1: Three integrally-informed friends attempt to face reality” on his Daily Evolver podcast.  In this week’s episode, almost exactly 4 years later, they reunite, react, reflect and take to heart the implications of the 2020 election results, including Trump’s unprecedented but unsurprising response — from three diverse integrally-informed perspectives.  Diane Musho Hamilton is an award-winning professional mediator and a compassionate, funny, dazzling facilitator. She is a Zen lineage holder, a trainer of Integral Facilitation, and the Executive Director of Two Arrows Zen in Utah. Diane has authored three books: Everything Is Workable, The Zen of You and Me, and her new book, co-authored with Gabriel Menegale Wilson and Kimberly Myosai Loh, Compassionate Conversations. Jeff Salzman is the creator and host of The Daily Evolver podcast, which looks at current events in politics and culture through the lens of integral theory. Jeff helmed Integral Institute Seminars from 2004-2007, where he, Diane, and Terry worked closely with Ken Wilber to co-create Integral Life Practice. After that, he founded the Boulder Integral Center, the first bricks-and-mortar center dedicated to the integral study and practice of human evolution.  For more information on Diane Musho Hamilton, Jeff Salzman or Terry Patten, check out the following resources: Diane's Website: https://www.dianemushohamilton.com/ Jeff's podcast The Daily Evolver: https://www.dailyevolver.com/ Diane's new book, Compassionate Conversations – How to Speak and Listen from the Heart: https://www.dianemushohamilton.com/books/ Two Arrows Zen: https://www.twoarrowszen.org/ Terry Patten's website: https://www.terrypatten.com/ A New Republic of the Heart: https://newrepublicoftheheart.org/ “Processing the 2020 Election, So Far” is a co-production of State of Emergence and The Daily Evolver. We hope you appreciate the conversation. If you feel these conversations have value and you’d like to see them reach a wider audience, please join us as an official supporter and select a monthly contribution. Thank you so much for your support.

In today’s episode I recount my own evolution through the spiral of development and share how the integral vision has illuminated my world(s). I was approached for this interview by two dear friends: Nomali Perera, with whom I’ve worked on many integral projects since 2004, and Lee Mason, whom I’ve come to know more recently. […] The post My Spiral Unfolding So Far appeared first on The Daily Evolver.

Jeff Salzman takes a look at the Coronavirus pandemic, humanity’s response to it, and how the integral lens helps us see more clearly the myriad forces and opportunities rising out of this crisis — which increases our wisdom, compassion, and resilience while dealing with it.

Jeff Salzman talks to Bence Ganti, the driving force behind the upcoming Integral European Conference, a major six-day event for the Integral community which will commence on May 26th at the Azur Resort at Lake Balaton in Hungary. This fourth biennial conference will be the biggest and most comprehensive yet, with over 700 participants from 50 countries. Titled Global Integral Awakens, the conference will offer 250 programs on a wide range of integral issues, from contemporary politics to organizational development to art, culture and spirituality, in a potent goulash of presentations, workshops and experiential processes. And there’s goulash night too, the Hungarian specialty cooked in cauldrons over an open fire … then trance dance … then a firewalk! To extend your integral immersion, consider the pre-conference training on human development with Dr. Robert Kegan, as well as a post-conference 3-day sightseeing tour by bus. Click here to find out more about the Integral European Conference: https://integraleuropeanconference.com/

Creator and host of The Daily Evolver podcast Jeff Salzman joins Terry Patten for a wild conversation—and at times, affable argument—about America’s fast-moving civic and political crisis. Jeff and Terry reflect on and debate what is required to establish a general amnesty between individuals and communities with different worldviews, especially during a time of fragmentation.  Jeff Salzman is the creator and host of The Daily Evolver podcast, which looks at current events in politics and culture through the lens of integral theory. He and Terry worked closely at Integral Institute Seminars and co-creating Integral Life Practice, after which Jeff also co-founded Boulder Integral, a center dedicated to the study and practice of human evolution. Together with Diane Musho Hamilton, they co-created and facilitated the Integral Living Room. Jeff and Terry have joyfully and passionately argued for years about the state and trajectory of the world, and in this episode, they take their perennial argument to the next level. Befriending the State of the World is a co-production of State of Emergence and Jeff's podcast, The Daily Evolver. For more information on Jeff Salzman and Terry Patten, check out the following resources: Jeff's podcast The Daily Evolver: https://www.dailyevolver.com/ Terry Patten's website: https://www.terrypatten.com/ To learn more about the work we are doing, visit: Learn About Our Practice Community: https://www.newrepublicoftheheart.org/community/ A New Republic of the Heart website: http://newrepublicoftheheart.org/ State of Emergence podcast website: http://stateofemergence.org/ 

Are you bored with the whole left vs right, culture war gridlock? What if there was a way that this dumpster fire could make us stronger? And could you possibly find common ground with your bigot uncle this holiday season? Jeff Salzman (The Daily Evolver) discusses Ken Wilber’s integral theory and how it can help us navigate our conflicted world. #integral #kenwilber #culturewar Crush procrastination and mental resistance. Click here to learn the same mindset principles that Tripp Lanier uses with his coaching clients — including Navy SEALs, entrepreneurs, and influencers. https://thenewmanpodcast.com/resistance

Many integralists are fans of Otto Scharmer, MIT professor and developer of “Theory U”, a brilliant tool for activating higher stages of consciousness that has gained wide acceptance in organizations. As a leading public intellectual Dr. Scharmer also writes about politics and culture. In this episode, integral psychotherapist Dr. Keith Witt and I discuss Scharmer’s political theory as presented in a popular and much-shared article, Axial Shift: The Decline of Trump, the Rise of the Greens, and the New Coordinates of Societal Change.

As the star of Judge Judy, Judith Sheindlin presides over the #1 show in US daytime television, where she rules on small-claims disputes drawn from real-life litigants across the country. Now in its 23rd year, Judge Judy attracts 10 million viewers a day who are eager to watch the 76-year-old grandmother transform into a Valkyrie for Justice, laying waste to the mendacities of cheating lovers, thieving landlords, lying teenagers and meddling mothers-in-law. In this episode I examine her genius and her enormous contribution to the evolution of consciousness and culture. —Jeff Salzman

Chris and Curt talk with Jeff from Nature Watch about their origin story, all the cool stuff they offer and new items that are coming soon.

Today’s guest, Sebastian Siegel, is the screenwriter and director of the upcoming movie, Grace and Grit. The film tells the true love story of iconic, Integral philosopher Ken Wilber and his wife Treya. Based on the acclaimed book that chronicles Treya’s journals, they fall madly in love in 1980’s California and are immediately faced with illness and challenges that tear them apart. They overcome by finding a connection beyond this world, and love beyond life. The film stars Mena Suvari and Stuart Townsend as Treya and Ken, and features supporting performances by Frances Fisher, Rebekah Graf, Nick Stahl, and Mariel Hemmingway. In our conversation, Sebastian, who is an integral practitioner, friend, and long-time fan of Ken’s work, talks in depth about many elements of making the film from writing, development, and casting, to directing, storytelling, and production, and his overriding mission to serve not just this epic love story, but also the emergence of Integral consciousness itself. Sebastian Siegel is author of the book, “The Consciousness Revolution”, and is the creator of two documentaries: “Awakening World” and “Spirit of Evolution.” You can find out more about Grace and Grit at the movie’s website, Sebastian’s instagram account. , and his website.

It’s the 19th Century, not the easiest time for a young lesbian to follow her heart and try to marry her girlfriend. Jeff Salzman of Daily Evovler.com returns to WYT to discuss the Modern, Post-Modern, Traditional, and Integral nature of the HBO/BBC co-production, “Gentleman Jack.”  

Integral politics involves appreciating what's good, true, and beautiful and what's missing in every worldview in our culture. This is neither the mushy middle nor mere theory, but instead a practical way forward in a puzzling world. The idea of integral politics is straightforward: listen closely to every perspective, take the best, and jettison the […] The post Integral Politics With Jeff Salzman (Episode 109) appeared first on .

My graduate advisor Sean Esbjörn-Hargens is one of the most consistently inspiring and refreshingly different thinkers I’ve ever met. In our first Future Fossils conversation, we discussed his work to apply a profoundly “meta” and pluralistic philosophy to the everyday work of organizational development and social impact. In this discussion, we turn over the rock and examine his decades of inquiry into some of the world’s most puzzling and confounding phenomena – namely, those surrounding the UFO and its aura of science-challenging incursions into mundane reality. Might “Exostudies” be the locus of a transformation in how we understand reality? This is not your normal New Age conversation about aliens, but a rigorous look into the persistent weirdness and problematic implications of one of humankind’s greatest mysteries. As Phil Dick famously said, “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.” If UFOs are here to stay – with all of their attendant provocations to our oversimple categories (self and other, artificial and natural, hallucination and perception, physical and immaterial) – then we are overdue for a new definition of “reality.” In preparation for his Exostudies online course this fall, we look at how to make sense of the stubbornly ineffable – an evolutionary call to take up higher-dimensional logic and more nuanced understandings of What Is…http://www.exostudies.org/“When you go into the UFO field, at least with an open heart and mind, you come across some really crazy shit. It is a freakshow. There are so many bizarre claims being made by standup citizens who are quite believable in what they are saying, even though what they’re saying just does not map onto our general view of reality.”“The truth is stranger than science fiction. Not just fiction, but science fiction.”“The phenomenon is subjective and objective; it’s subjective and objective simultaneously; and it’s neither. So I think what it’s asking us is to re-examine the relationship between mind and matter, and how do we relate to subject and object, and how has our current scientific methodology failed us horribly in having a more sophisticated answer or framing or understanding of how these two aspects are related.”“There are really good, legitimate photographs, and trace evidence, and all kinds of physical evidence for UFO craft and other otherworldly realities…and yet, there are so many fakes. And how do you sift through all that? You almost can’t.”“We’re entering into an augmented and virtual space that’s going to be ontologically fragmented, and highly pluralistic, and solipsistic. So how do we navigate that culturally? I don’t know, but I think we’re largely unprepared.”“We’re not that far from discovering some form of mini-life elsewhere. And as soon as that happens, then the floodgates are going to open in considering the implications of that.”“So many UFO or ET enthusiasts often want to put everything in one box, like ‘they’re all bad,’ ‘they’re all good,’ ‘they’re all future versions of ourselves.’ I think it’s much messier than that.”“I think one of the core strategies is hermeneutic generosity. A sense of critical thinking, but from a place of generosity, where we stay open. Postmodernism has been so jaded – the hermeneutics of suspicion – I think when we approach these phenomena, we need a different orientation.”“To really bring any kind of justice to this inquiry, we need to draw on the best thinking from as many kinds of disciplines as we can – because the phenomenon is that big, and that mysterious, and that paradoxical. So anything short of a meta, integrative approach – and even that – is going to fail.”Mentioned:Diana Slattery, John Mack, Avi Loeb, Ken Wilber, Jeff Kripal, Whitley Strieber, Arthur Brock, George Knapp, John C. Wright, Olaf Stapledon, Stuart Davis, Jeff Salzman, Richard Doyle, Carl Jung, Terence McKenna, William Irwin Thompson, DW Pasulka, Eric Wargo, Jacques ValleeSean’s appearance on the Daily Evolver Podcast:https://www.dailyevolver.com/2019/02/taking-aliens-seriously/If you liked this episode, check out Episodes 60 & Episode 91:https://shows.pippa.io/futurefossils/episodes/60https://shows.pippa.io/futurefossils/episodes/91 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The Democratic field for US president is taking shape fast. Today I have a freewheeling conversation with Corey deVos of Integral Life about our impressions of the emerging landscape, with a special focus on Marianne Williamson, Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg.

A buffoon explains Integral Theory!   In this episode Andrew gives an introduction to Ken Wilber's Integral Theory (as explained from an amature's understanding). Andrew shares his story on how he found Integral Theory and his initial impression of Wilber. We then delve deep into the waves of development, lines of development, the four quadrants, types of people, spheres of existence and the principals of evolution. You'd better buckle up - it's going to be a brain frying episode!   Listen to Ken Wilber give an introduction talk to Integral Spirituality here:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4jcxxJ_0ok   Listen to an example of Jeff Salzman talking about Integral Theory here:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpy4S16FAZg&t=42s     Other episodes of the Andrew Lake Podcast:    Podbean: https://andrewlakepodcast.podbean.com/ iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/andrew-lake-podcast/id1439388762?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36T6M5UiOt9E35U6faNQUi Twitter: https://twitter.com/LakePodcast Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/JonoLakeside

In his classic book, Adventures of Ideas, Alfred North Whitehead describes the eros of the beautiful, the true, and the good. And to this list of intrinsic values he adds the idea of adventure, without which, he observes, “civilization is in full decay.” In this episode, Jeff Salzman’s guest Steve McIntosh explores Whitehead’s theme of […] The post The Spiritual Adventure of Psychedelics and Wilderness appeared first on The Daily Evolver.

Today’s guest, David Fuller, is at the center of the intellectual Dark Web (IDW) having founded Rebel Wisdom, a YouTube station that has attracted over 60,000 subscribers in less than two years. David Fuller is committed to the further evolution of the intellectual dark web and enthusiastic, as I am, about what integral theory can bring to that project. I hope you enjoy our conversation!

"The unique terrain of mothering is always, already shaping us into ripe and powerful writers: we are tired so we are funny and real; we are in love so we are tender; we are damn strong so we have conviction. I want to bring our ordinary, extraordinary realities out of hiding and into view, for ourselves, each other, and the greater public if we so choose. This is my activism. This can be your activism. This is a chance to know and be known by each other, amazing mamas.” —Brooke McNamara Jeff invited Brooke McNamara to the Daily Evolver to talk about a project she is launching that we think represents a new way of building creative we-spaces. It’s a 6-week virtual course that provides inspiration, community and an opportunity for creative self-expression to a select group of people who are living in a unique crucible: mothers. Brooke developed the course, Write to the Heart of Motherhood because, as a poet, she knows writing to be a flexible and potent way for mothers to “connect to our true voice in the middle of our messy lives.” She explains: “The practice of writing is not something I do, but somewhere I go. When I give myself fully to whole-bodied listening for poems, I am never disappointed. Even if nothing comes, the tuning itself creates a presence and vitality in my being that support me profoundly in living and mothering. Poetry, for me, is language that carries both meaning, imagery and story, AND, more importantly, life force itself.” —Brooke McNamara Brooke’s new course, Write to the Heart of Motherhood, begins on March 4th and will run for six weeks. It’s not too late to sign up! Click here to learn more and register: https://www.theheartofmotherhood.com/ref/integrallife/

Jeff Salzman talks with Dr. Keith Witt about an evolutionary approach that liberates masculinity and femininity into a new integration that features the best of both and makes them available to all. The culture wars heated up last week with two new skirmishes. One was the release of the American Psychological Association’s new Guidelines for Psychological Practice with Boys and Men. The other is a new ad released by the Gillette razor company: The Best a Man Can Get. Both explicitly criticize traditional views of masculinity; as the APA Guidelines states, “traditional masculinity — marked by stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression — is, on the whole, harmful.” And both encourage men to be more sensitive, cooperative and revealing. Predictably, the new ad and report created blowback from people who see them as part of a postmodern project to neuter men by damning masculinity itself as toxic. They maintain that traditional masculine qualities are innate to men and essential to a healthy culture. Could both sides have a point?

Corey DeVos, editor-in-chief of Integral Life, joins Jeff Salzman to talk about recent goings-on at Integral Life. From Jeff: "I invited him on because my job is highlighting the emergence of integral consciousness, and I have been really impressed with the stuff Corey and company are putting out these days. (Plus they host my live show twice a week, and I want them to know I love them!)"

The political firestorm surrounding the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court is a juicy case for an integral analysis. Today Jeff shares his insights into the testimony presented to the Senate Judiciary Committee by both Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford, the woman accusing him of attacking her as a teenager. He considers: […] The post Judging Kavanaugh appeared first on The Daily Evolver.

Do you ever feel like there’s a barrier between what you know about how to have a good relationship, and what you actually do? How do you take what we know about the science of relationships, combine it with the wisdom of our hearts and our quest for deeper meaning, and integrate it into something practical? Today we’re going to get practical, integrated, and Integral with a return visit from Keith Witt, whose new book Loving Completely: A Five Star Practice for Creating Great Relationships was just released. Keith Witt has conducted more than 55,000 (!!) therapy sessions, and is also often featured on Jeff Salzman’s The Daily Evolver podcast. He is truly gifted at taking the “big picture” and making it useful for a daily lives. Loving Completely is a manual for how to not only set a higher standard for what’s possible in your relationship, but you also get simple steps that get you there. Also, please check out our first two episodes with Keith Witt - Episode 80: Bring Your Shadow into the Light and Episode 13: Resolve Conflict and Create Intimacy through Attunement. As always, I’m looking forward to your thoughts on this episode and what revelations and questions it creates for you. Please join us in the Relationship Alive Community on Facebook to chat about it! Sponsors: Along with our amazing listener supporters (you know who you are - thank you!), this week's episode has two great sponsors, each with a special offer for you. Casper.com provides ultra-comfy mattresses and other products to help you get a restful night’s sleep. You can try out a Casper mattress for 100 nights - and if you’re not completely satisfied return it for a full refund. As a Relationship Alive listener, they are offering you $50 OFF select mattresses - terms and conditions apply. Just visit Casper.com/alive and use the coupon code “ALIVE” at checkout. 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Amazing intro/outro music graciously provided courtesy of: The Railsplitters - Check them Out Transcript: Neil Sattin: Hello and welcome to another episode of Relationship Alive. This is your host, Neil Sattin. We're trying to change culture with this show and I am so appreciative as always of your being here with me to evolve what is actually possible for us in terms of our relationships, and we know more about how to relate with other people than we've ever known before. We know more about the science. We know more about our spirit and how that factors in. We know more about the power of mindfulness. We know more about how our hearts interact with other hearts. It's all taking shape in a way that's very unique, and what we are trying to do here is to not only talk about it, but make it so practical for you so that you can put this stuff into use in your relationship. And so you can talk to other people and say, "Hey, like you're having a hard time, you know, check out this episode on Relationship Alive where you will get your problem solved or see a light at the end of this dark tunnel," that, let's face it, sometimes we're in a dark tunnel in our relationship, it's part of what happens. Neil Sattin: So, I'm overjoyed today to have a returning guest, someone who has been on the show twice, and he's here today to talk about and celebrate really the release of his latest book called Loving Completely. I'm talking about Dr. Keith Witt, who you may know through his appearances on The Daily Evolver or you may have heard him here on Relationship Alive. He was here in Episode 80 where we were talking about shadow and he was also here way back in Episode 13 talking about Attunement and how important that is. So he is back on the show. And we will have a detailed transcript of this episode. If you want to get that, just visit neilsattin.com/completely as in Loving Completely or you can as always text the word Passion to the number 33444 and follow the instructions and we'll send you a link where you can download this transcript, and all our other transcripts and show guides. Neil Sattin: So today, we're going to talk about what it means to love completely, and how that's maybe different than your standard kind of relationship and why it actually helps you deepen and deepen what's possible for you in partnership. I think that's all I have to say for the moment. Keith Witt, it is such a treat as always to have you back here on Relationship Alive. Keith Witt: Great to be with you, Neil. Neil Sattin: So, let's just start there. Loving completely. Now, I know that some of the book is based on a course that you did in the integral world called Loving Completely. Why loving completely? What was the inspiration for you for that title versus just like, How to Have a Kickass Relationship? [chuckle] Keith Witt: That's not a bad title. [chuckle] I've been doing therapy and writing and teaching for 44 years and I have studied dozens of brilliant people. And most people, most researchers, their understanding comes from how they came to establish mastery in their areas of psychotherapy or of understanding. Esther Perel, for instance, worked a lot with couples where people were unfaithful, and so she is oriented according to how sexuality ebbs and flows and manifests and affects relationships in her work. Stan Tatkin came from attachment theory and interpersonal neurobiology and his system is heavily oriented in that direction. John Gottman is a pure social scientist. I mean, the way that he found his wife was he went on 50 dates in 60 days and she was the outlier whom he married. He did it like a science experiment. And so his approach is social science. He uses social science to find what works and doesn't work and so on. Keith Witt: So, everybody comes from their orientation and they're all right. But in Integral Psychology, we say that everybody gets to be right, but nobody gets to be right all the time. And so, most of us who work with couples and individuals have found that people are wildly unique, and people have different languages and understandings that help them love better. And so I was interested in an orienting system, where you could start with basic principles and practices and they could lead you in the direction that you were most open to in terms of helping you grow and transform in your ability to be intimate with the different parts of yourself and be effectively intimate with other people and especially with your chosen partner in a long-term lover relationship. Keith Witt: And so that motivated me. That was a challenge. How do you get oriented in that fashion? And so out of that came the Loving Completely Course and then out of that course came, I wanted to expand the ideas and present a deeper dive into a lot of the constructs and so I wrote the Loving Completely book, which is gonna come out soon, and that's what oriented me in terms of and inspired me in terms of writing this book. Neil Sattin: Yeah, I like that picture of completeness, not only in terms of what it inspires me to think about and how I conduct my relationship, the process of my relationship, but also the willingness to look across the spectrum of what's available to help you that you don't have to be confined just because so and so says that their thing works 85% of the time. If it doesn't work for you, you're not screwed like there are other options for you that might be effective for you. And so there's that completeness of like, "Oh, the whole world is available for me to actually help me get this. Get this right." Keith Witt: Yes, and we live in an age where there's a cornucopia of great knowledge available to us and especially around intimacy and around relationships. And so let me explain. I'm gonna talk mostly about a committed intimate relationship like a marriage, a long-term love affair, and so on, though these principles apply to lots of relationships, parental relationships, sibling relationship, friend relationships, and so on. But a relationship of marriage is basically a friendship, a love affair, a capacity to notice and repair injuries and ruptures, and a mutual commitment to each other's evolution. If those four components are attended to on a daily basis, couples tend to do well. If one of those lapses in some fashion, suffering occurs and suffering in relationship tends to spiral into separation. And this is one of the reasons why half the marriages end in divorce. Keith Witt: And so that's a great picture of a good relationship, but how do we do that? How do we establish that? And just like any area of mastery, what you do is you pick a goal, you get ignited. I wanna have great relationships. You find data and information and master coaching in the world, and then you break it up into chunks and you do focus practice on those chunks and with a growth mindset of effort and progress is what matters. We're not trying to get anywhere, we're just trying to have effort and progress. You gradually can establish mastery in this area of loving, loving another person, helping another person love you and... Go on. Neil Sattin: Yeah. And so a couple of things are coming up for me right now. One is, we're talking here, we're on a show where we are focused about, we're coming from a growth mindset. And I can't tell you how many times I read something or I have this conversation with you or someone like you and I have that light bulb moment of like, "Oh right, this is how I've been seeing it, and I could be open to a different perspective here and that actually might serve me a lot better." So let's just start with maybe the hardest question which a lot of people who listen to the show are gonna be asking which is like, "Alright, you said growth mindset. And now, I just know that this ain't happening because my partner, like that's the problem, they don't have a growth mindset, and they're fixed and they're shut down. And I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying." I know, in the 65,000 or more sessions you've done with people, you've come up against this with couples and I'm curious to know how you help inspire both people in a moment like this. Keith Witt: A human super power is our ability to receive caring influence. That is a super power. And it's more difficult than it sounds. Receiving caring influence means that you allow yourself to change how you think and what you do in response to someone else trying to help. Now, when people get threatened, when people feel insecure, when they feel unsafe, their nervous systems get more rigid. Your slower thinking frontal cortex gets inhibited and your faster thinking brainstem takes charge. And one of the ways to take charge is it resists receiving influence. And so if you have a partner that is resisting receiving influence, it probably means that in a particular level they feel unsafe. Keith Witt: And so when someone comes in or a couple comes in, part of my job is to help that first person feel safe. And generally the way that I help people feel safe is through compassionate understanding. I know that at the core of everyone, there is a little interface between them and spirit. Patricia Albere in the evolutionary collective calls that the origin point, in the traditions she called that out man's soul, that kind of thing. That's how I identify people. And so, my job is to connect with that spot in them and then help them feel understood by me. And as we go into that understanding, we find a place where they feel threatened, where they resist influence. And the place where you resist influence and you feel threatened is also the place where you're yearning for something, you're yearning for love, you're yearning for security, you're yearning for passion, you're yearning to be known deeply. Keith Witt: And as I help someone feel safe and as I help them understand their yearning, we can begin to open up a little bit to how those yearnings can be met in their relationship. They can be met by their partner, and I can help their partner help this other person feel safe. By the very act of coming to a therapist, people have gone to an environment where they've acknowledged, "We can't help each other feel safe enough to change, we need somebody else to provide a little bit more safety." And so that's a central part of what therapists do. Now, does that work all the time? Nothing works all the time. Does it work a lot? Yeah, it does. And if your partner seems impenetrable, then what you wanna do is you wanna say, "Well, look, let's get some help. Let's find somebody that you trust and let's get them to help us love each other better. Let's get them to help us be more connected." Keith Witt: And you take a stand for that. And if your partner can't do it, you go get help and then that person helps you encourage your partner to get help. And so that's how it goes. Usually that ends up with both people getting into therapy, but not always. And frankly, it's just a bad sign. If somebody is having problems and refuses therapy, that predicts marital dissolution pretty reliably in a lot of cases, and that's just the way it works. If you take a rigid position, particularly in the 21st century with your partner, and refuse to work on things that are disturbing to them, that will separate you and those separations get worse, they don't get better. So those are the ruptures and repairs that are so important. They need to be repaired. And they're repaired when we're making that condition better, when we're working at loving each other better. Neil Sattin: Yeah. And this, I think, is so important because it's tempting, especially as you read a lot of, let's just say, self-help books about relationship which you might be doing if there are some issues going on or you might be doing even if you're like, "I just wanna know how to do this better," and kudos to you if that's what you're doing. Keith's book is great for that. It can be tempting to think like, "Okay, well, I'm gonna go into this with my partner like a therapist would. Like now I'm armed with all this new knowledge and I'm gonna bring it into my relationship." Neil Sattin: And to some level, I think that is helpful, but what I'm hearing from you that I think is so key for people to get is that the real gem that happens in a good therapy, in a good therapeutic setting, is creating that safety and being seen without judgment, being seen with compassion, and from that everything else can grow. I would think that it's rare that someone comes in, and you're not just instructing them, right? I mean I sure don't. In my coaching practice, we're not saying, "You're doing this wrong, you're doing relationship wrong, so let me just tell you how to do it right, and then you're all set, you're then free to go." Keith Witt: Yeah. Well, that would be great [chuckle] if it worked. You know, when I wrote a book on Integral Psychotherapy called Waking Up and in that I said what an integral psychotherapist does is relate, teach, inspire, confront, interpret, and direct and relating is first. If someone is open to learning a new perspective, they're open to receiving influence, in other words they get influenced to change what they think and do. A lot of therapy is just getting 80% of therapy is getting to the point where someone feels safe enough to be willing to do that. And, yes, we don't do that with our partners. I have two kids, they're grown 33 and 30, and wife, and I don't give them any input unless they ask specifically for it. And the reason why I've done that is because I realized as our family was developing that I didn't have a contract with them, like I did with my clients, and that actually interfered with our relationship if I offered input that wasn't requested or welcomed. Keith Witt: And so I'm way more conservative when it comes to my opinions or my observations with my own family. Why? Because I'm not there primarily to enlighten them or to help them, I'm there to support the intersubjectivity of our relationships. I'm there to support our love for each other. And supporting our love for each other means having this relationship on a psychological spiritual level, we're experiencing ourselves as having equal power, equal credibility, equal say in the important aspects of our life around money, sex, parenting, time, that kind of stuff. And then all that stuff needs to be negotiated in a dialectic. And the dialectic is two people looking for deeper truth, respecting each other, open to each other, as influence, and acknowledging their individual rights. And that's called a growth hierarchy. Keith Witt: It's a power hierarchy but it doesn't look like a power hierarchy because when people are going back and forth in that environment, you're not noticing how one person has a little more credibility, a little more power than the other person does because there's a flow back and forth in the integral cosmology, that's called the second tier. That's a particular kind of relating. Now, when people get threatened, they go into dominator hierarchies. You stop receiving influence and you're trying to bully the other person or convince the other person or submit even to the other person. That dominator hierarchy can get something done, but it contaminates a relationship. And an awful lot of work, whether therapist know it or not, when they're working with couples is noticing that shift in the dominator hierarchies, and then interrupting it and encouraging couples to go back into growth hierarchies where they're looking for deeper truth, more open to influence, being respectful, allowing each other individual rights. Keith Witt: And just that, just paying attention. And that can transform your whole relational universe. Particularly, you can transform a universe relating to other people because once you start noticing those things you see growth hierarchies and dominator hierarchies everywhere. And if you have a moral sense of standing for growth hierarchies, that means that whenever you're around you wanna generate them. And if there's a dominator hierarchy happening, you wanna start working to shift that into a growth hierarchy. Nowhere is that more important than in your end of the relationship. Neil Sattin: Yeah, and this is something that comes up a lot actually in our Facebook group and just because we're here. I'm curious of your perspective on this. A lot of my listeners have actually been married and gotten divorced, and now they're working on their next big love, let's say. And so, of course, that introduces all kinds of other dynamics with former partners, their new partners, and that's a situation that's ripe for power struggles and dominator hierarchies to emerge. So, I'm curious like if you're a growth-oriented person and you're just getting hammered by a dominator, what's a good pathway through to navigate through that, that you might offer someone? Keith Witt: Well, first of all, that is the... Particularly for educated people in this country, generally they go through at least two major intimate relationships, sometimes more. I was a hippie back in the '60s and '70s, so I had a three-year relationship where we didn't get married but essentially it was the first marriage. So that's very common. And when there's children and in-laws, you are bringing other people in and other responsibilities. Stan Tatkin says, calls it The Rule of Thirds. And he makes a point that I agree with. Yes, there's a lot of added complexity that comes when people have a second or third serious relationship, but that is simplified if you recognize the primacy of the intimate bond. The primacy, there's a reason that they call it a primary relationship, and that primary relationship is we wanna maintain this container in integrity, we wanna have this container be as clean and as pure and as beautiful as possible, and that means our friendship, our love affair, our capacity to heal injuries, and our commitment to mutual evolution comes first. And then everything else gets organized around that. Keith Witt: What that does is it gets you oriented in terms of other demands, say there's an ex-spouse that is aggressive, this happens sometimes. Or punitive, people get angry after a separation, and often separations are expensive, and they're difficult, and people are more egocentric and distressed cells will come out and then they don't have much contact with each other, which makes it easier to objectify each other and see each other in negative black and white terms. Well, that's not good for anybody. It's particularly not good for children. Children of the divorce who have parents who are acrimonious with each other do worse. They have more symptoms and they have more problems. And so you don't wanna encourage that. You wanna discourage that. How do you do that? Keith Witt: Well, there's two of general ways of dealing with other people. There's what you and I are doing now, which is relating. Relating is we're just telling our truth, we're respecting each other, we got individual rights, and we're both open to caring influence. You tell me something that's a better idea than something I got. I'll change my idea and change how I think in what I do. That's relating and relating is a superior way of being. But say, somebody can't relate. Well, then you handle them. And how do you handle them? You handle them so that they can't successfully dominate in a dominator hierarchy and you make it easier for them to relate. For instance, you set boundaries. So this happens all the time, when one ex-spouse wants special privileges and comes to feel entitled to it because the other person just tries to say yes rather than thinks in a larger sense about what's gonna make this a more coherent relationship. Keith Witt: So then what you do is you start setting boundaries around whatever the dissolution agreement was. You don't say yes unnecessarily. And if someone is acting in a disrespectful fashion, you disengage. You set a boundary. Okay. So over time, this influences the other person to be more respectful. It's very much like parenting a child. And it's similar because when people are in defensive states, basically they've regressed to child ego states. And so you don't have to be... You can be respectful, but you need to be firm. I'm respectful of my four-year-old who doesn't wanna get in the car and go to the dentist, but I am firm. You're gonna have to get in the car and go to the dentist and that's all there's to it. So, respectfully, get in the car, we're going to the dentist. [chuckle] Neil Sattin: You spoke in Loving Completely. And I wanna dive more into the meat of the matter here momentarily. You spoke about your commitment to more and more interacting with the world from a place of loving kindness and compassion. Keith Witt: Yes. Neil Sattin: And even then, you mentioned that there are some relationships and connections that you've had to let go of. Keith Witt: Yes. Neil Sattin: And I'm curious for you, what does that barometer like in terms of you knowing like, "Okay, I guess I've done all I can do here," versus like, "You know what? I'm gonna keep trying. I have faith in this particular container that it will ultimately yield to the power of a growth mindset and relating. Keith Witt: Well, first of all, it of course depends on the nature of the relationship. You know, loving-kindness is a practice. And we can all do it now because it's a wonderful practice to get yourself into a place where you are available to engage in a mature and healthy activity, and here's how you do it. You imagine some other person. So I'm imagining you right now and then I am reaching out from my heart, to your heart, and in my mind, I'm saying to myself from my heart to your heart, "May you be safe. May you be happy. May you be healthy. May you have an easeful life." And as I do that, I am changing my state. Now, if I do that with... If you're my lover and I do that when we are in conflict, my defensive state, because I'm in, we are in conflict, all communication is complimentary, we're probably both in defensive states that are self-amplifying which is by defensive states we are so dangerous as couples. What I'm doing is I am now shifting into another state of consciousness where instead of allowing my nervous system to relate to you as an unsafe person, that I am objectifying to a certain extent. Keith Witt: Now, I'm relating to you as someone I care about and that shifts my state. Now, as I do that, if we're around each other and you can see into my eyes, or hear my voice, your state begins to shift out of defensive state into a state of healthy response to the present moment. And so loving-kindness meditation is a wonderful practice to learn how to do when you're stressed because it shifts your state into an area where you have access to your frontal lobes, you have access to your deep wisdom and you're regulating your defensive states into your more mature and more powerful states of conscious awareness and compassionate understanding. Keith Witt: And I encourage everybody who's listening to do it at this moment. Imagine somebody, you can imagine me if you want, I'd take all the loving-kindness that the... [chuckle] people could give, your heart to that person's heart. And in your mind, say, "May you be safe. May you be happy. May you be healthy. May you have an easeful life." And see how it feels. Interestingly, when people did this meditation, they had anti-inflammatory genes activated in their bodies and antiviral genes activated in their bodies that this meditation made their immune systems more robust, by shifting the myelinazation patterns of their genetic expression. That's how powerful this is. Neil Sattin: Well, well, and... Yeah, I'm just struck by that like we talk about our anger being inflamed and how interesting that anti-inflammatory actions take place when we go into a place of loving-kindness like that. Keith Witt: It's amazing. Neil Sattin: And I'm thinking too about my own experience with Chloe and we're doing really well together. Not that we haven't had our challenges and despite doing really, really well together when something happens and one of us goes to that defensive state and we both end up there even... I guess what I'm saying is, even in the best of relationships, and you talk about this with Becky as well, it can be such a challenge, such an effort to even utter within, oh, you know, much less saying it out loud to your partner, if you happen to be in their presence. But within like, "May you be safe, may you be loved." I think if you're thinking back to a time when you had an argument with your partner, you'll get what I'm talking about that, it's like the last thing you wanna do. Keith Witt: That's right. Neil Sattin: And yet it has so much power if you can somehow do it. Keith Witt: Yeah. What helps me with this is understanding that those defensive states that you enter when you're mad at each other, those were evolutionary milestones for the human species. And most of our brain is designed to relate with other people and there's a lot of good evidence that one of the reasons that brain size expanded about two million, three million years ago is because the level of complexity in human groups went up, and we needed to have more brain power to be able to relate with each other. And in those primitive tribes, there were social organizations just like there are in primate groups and that meant when there was a problem that couldn't be resolved cooperatively people went into dominance displays because the dominance hierarchies are what maintained the social fabric. Keith Witt: And what they would do, they were programmed to do genetically is to raise their emotional intensity to intimidate the other person into taking an inferior place or the dominance hierarchy or to have you submit in a way that would happen before physical violence could take place, which would maintain the integrity of the social structure and protect people from hurting each other because evolutionarily speaking, the biggest threat to humans, for the last couple of million years, have been other humans. Keith Witt: Now, what modern consciousness is brought to bear is way more powerful ways of dealing with conflict, way more sophisticated ways. And so when those defensive states are activated if I know that if I can engage in collaborative, two men in problem solving with this person, what that does is it opens up a possibility for this moment to enhance our personal evolution, this moment to make our love deeper, to support our friendship and our love affair. If I know that, if I can just have the faintest memory of that, then I can start working at soothing myself and soothing you and inviting you into that process to create that container of that dialectic. That container of mutual respect and individual rights and looking for a deeper truth and receiving influence. And when we do that a hundred times or a thousand times and discover how well it works, how it creates these miracles of consciousness, then what we've done is we've taken those primitive impulses and we've included and transcended them in the more sophisticated influences. Keith Witt: And you know in our last talk, I talked about how what we're actually doing is growing our shadow selves. We're growing our unconscious. Our unconscious becomes more complex and it regulates outside of our awareness so that it gets easier and easier to reach for these better states. Now, every once in a while, we get triggered usually from a trauma memory and bam, here comes the defensive state, it happens in 60 milliseconds. We have amplified our numb emotions, distorted perspective, destructive impulses, and diminish capacities for empathy and self-reflection like that. But if you can learn to self-observe that, what you end up doing is instead of trusting all that stuff, trusting that distorted perspective, trusting those destructive impulses, going along with that lack of self-reflection and empathy and say, "No, no, I'm actually in a disadvantage state now I need to reach for something that is more powerful," like compassionate understanding that provides the impetus interiorly to do that for yourself. And then when you are doing that for yourself, you're non-verbally and verbally encouraging your partner to do the same. Neil Sattin: Yeah. Keith Witt: And this... Neil Sattin: May I offer just a quick example of that? Keith Witt: Sure. Neil Sattin: So just the other night, I was with Chloe and we were talking about something, she was going to cover for me for something, and she made a comment like, "This is actually the last thing I wanna do, it sounds horrible to me, but I'm gonna do it but it sounds horrible." And I immediately went into like, she's being negative about this thing and I don't even want you to do it anyway, if it's gonna be horrible for you. So we started spiraling down this place and it was kinda late at night, so we weren't in our... There's not a lot of will power left at the... Keith Witt: That's right. Oh no. Neil Sattin: At the end of the day to actually steer yourself back. But fortunately I'd been reading your book and so I turned to her and I said, "Help me, help me help you, what I'm hearing you say that this is horrible. And it sounds like hell and I don't know what you need from me right now, what I can see is that I'm just going into this place where I am polarizing or where I somehow wanna change you or change your experience, but I clearly that's not working 'cause you're just getting more and more angry at me, and I'm getting more angry at you. Like what do you need?" And you know, to prove your point, Keith and this was just so hilarious to me in the moment, she looked at me and her eyes were big and wide, and she just said, "I need your compassion. I need you to understand that, yes, of course, I'm gonna do this for you, I love you, and it's not... It wouldn't be my first choice to do this thing and I just need you to hear me and to acknowledge me and to be compassionate." Neil Sattin: So that was the first thing that was like, "Oh okay, right." And so, of course, I'm thinking like I know this and of course I know this, like I've... 'cause we've done this a million times, but here we were in this space of conflict. And so then I started thinking, like, "Well, I know that the key right now is to be compassionate and I've even done it before, but right now, I can't for some reason, I really can't." And so I asked myself like, "Why, why can't I be compassionate right now?" And I had this huge realization about my own earlier experiences with being confronted with, I had an idea about something and just to keep it somewhat vague like let's say a family member would have shit on my idea or say like, "No Like that. We're not gonna do that." Neil Sattin: And so for me, I had to develop a pretty strong defense to that kind of what I perceived as negative energy, or a negative attack, and so my choice was never to meet that with compassion. I didn't... No one instructed me on how to do that as a kid, so I was just like kind of shoring myself up and figuring like, "Okay, how do I turn a negative into a positive, how do I... " It's like I had Martin Seligman in my back pocket like... Keith Witt: There you go. Neil Sattin: And which was good for me, in some level, but in this situation with Chloe, there was no like saying, "Hey, let's turn those lemons into lemonade." Like that wasn't what she needed in that moment. And as soon as I realized that and I shared that with her, "Oh wow, I'm realizing that you need compassion, and I can't do it and it's because I just have this defense against being... Like I've never learned how to be compassionate, what I've learned how to do is to try to look on the bright side or try to make things not as bad. And for us, it was this huge moment of understanding that just softened everything and next thing you knew, we were singing to each other and making peace with each other instead of making war. Keith Witt: Well, I just love that story. You know what? When a couple comes in with the story like that, there's part of me that goes, "Mm-hmm. My work here is done." [laughter] You notice what you did, you went into vulnerability as power which you can do with her because she is a sophisticated enough partner to see that and to be moved by it and then you went into the real issue. The real issue is us, our container. And to go there, I have to go essentially into my trauma history to find out why I had this reaction, that's more rigid than I'm used to. It's more amplified than I'm used to. And yes, that it always comes from previous learning, often it comes from a family of origin. And when you understand that the problem right now was a solution, it's often a brilliant solution 40 years ago, but now it's not adequate because I'm in a relationship where I can actually go into deeper love from this place, which was not available then, I'd rather go into deeper love. Keith Witt: And that's what you guys did and you were focusing on the real issue, which is we need to... There is a rupture in our container, in our intersubjective container, we need to heal that. And we know that we've healed it when we feel that sense of loving connection. When you're repairing, yes, you wanna validate the other person and, yes, the other person wants to feel understood. And you wanna feel understood. And you wanna take a little bit of action to solve the problem. Those are all important parts of repair. Yeah, you wanna accept that that's not gonna solve the whole problem but it will solve a piece of it but at the very end of it, there needs to be loving connection. If you don't have that loving connection, you haven't repaired it yet. And you only know that when you both feel it at the same time and everybody who has done that, which is almost all of us, knows what that feels like. And that needs to be the standard. That is always the standard to get back to love. Neil Sattin: Yeah, yeah. There's this little song. I don't know who the source of it is but Chloe learned it recently and it's become our latest practice at the end of conflict. Not that conflict's happening all the time, but just as a reminder and a recognition of having gotten back to love. And can I sing it? Can I share? Keith Witt: Oh please, I was gonna ask you to sing it. Sing it. Neil Sattin: So it goes like this. "I behold you beautiful one. I behold you child of the Earth and sun. Let my love wash over you. Let my love watch over you." That's it. Keith Witt: That's beautiful. Neil Sattin: Yeah. So for us that... And actually I find myself when I'm still stewing I can sing that to her in my mind. And that also helps like, "Okay, I'm coming back now." I can remember that the whole reason we're here is because we love each other and because our love is ever deepening and we've had that experience. So that also helps me come back to the table and get back to love with her. Keith Witt: When you sing that song inside you, when you're with her, you're doing loving-kindness meditation. Neil Sattin: Yes. Keith Witt: That's another form of loving-kindness meditation. Neil Sattin: Yes, exactly. So, Keith, let's shift gears just a little bit because I wanna give you a chance to paint the picture. You created a beautiful scaffolding around which Loving Completely is built and you call it The Five Star Practice. And there are these five questions that people can ask themselves about themselves and about their partner to help direct their attention to the elements that create an amazing thriving relationship. And you talk about how it came up in a conversation with your kids around like what to look for in a good partner and how that has become this lens through which you can... These questions have become a lens through which you can look at any relationship and see what's going well, what's not, where you might need to adjust your habits. And so could we go through those five star questions? Keith Witt: Sure. Neil Sattin: So people get a sense of what we're talking about. Keith Witt: Yes. The genesis of this was in a conversation with my two teenage kids in the kitchen, of them asking, How do I choose somebody? And anybody who's done therapy realizes that at certain points in your life you open up and something comes through, you become a channel. And so those five questions came out. And as a scientist, I'm always a little uncomfortable with stuff like that because, yes, we can see it as an unconscious download, but it always feels like you're connected to something larger. And the interesting thing about that is that they really haven't changed that much over the years. It's been 15 years or so. And they've been cross-validated again, and again, and again, and again with neuroscience and social science and so on. And so I'll tell you the five questions but I'll tell you the reason for the questions and I'll tell you the foundation of the questions. Keith Witt: The foundation is compassionate self and other observation. Loving-kindness meditation does that, attunement, paying attention with acceptance and caring intent to what you're sensing, feeling, thinking, judging, and wanting. Paying attention with acceptance and caring intent, what your partner might be sensing, feeling, thinking, judging, and wanting. That's the foundation, compassionate self and other observation. Now, if you can establish that, and however way you do it, if you ask yourself these questions, you're basically, when you ask yourself a question, you're opening up to your unconscious. Keith Witt: So the questions are first, is there erotic polarity between me and this other person? Is there a spark between their feminine and my masculine? Because when we are looking for a partner, or when we were maintaining a relationship, part of that is the love affair. That love affair is a big deal, and that love affair is based on a spark between two poles, between the masculine in one person and the feminine in the other. Now we have energetic polarities between ourselves and everything and everybody. You have an energetic polarity when you look at a sunset, or when you're telling your daughter good night, I love you. But you have a certain kind of erotic polarity, has a sexual feel, between you as a masculine or feminine person and another person as a masculine and feminine person, and we're adjusting those all the time. Keith Witt: And so that's one question, Is there a spark of erotic polarity between me and this other person? The second question is, Does this person maintain their physical and psychological health? Doesn't mean they have to be super healthy, it just means they're responsible for their physical and psychological health, and if there's a problem they'll take care of it. Third question is, If I'm in a relationship with this person or if I am and there's conflict, would they be able and willing to do what it takes to get back to love? We've been talking about repair, you and I, and that's a central skill in intimate relationships. A fourth question is, Would this person show up appropriately for a child or a family member? Appropriately is not co-dependently, appropriately is there's a lot of things that are appropriate, but will they show up in a healthy fashion for a child or a family member? And the fifth one is, Does this person have something larger than themselves, something sacred that they're committed to? And do they feel a sense of respect, even admiration, or would they feel that for what's sacred to me? Keith Witt: So those are a lot of questions but if you pay attention to those five dimensions about other people, after a while they become like new sense organs and you just notice these things. You'll pull up to somebody... You're sitting down next to somebody in a restaurant, you look over and you go, "I bet that person would be a good parent." Or you see somebody, you go, "Hmm, I feel a spark of erotic polarity with this person." Or you look at that person, you go, "I don't think that person maintains their physical health very well." Or they do. They become things that you notice like people's clothes and eye color. And if you notice them about other people, it makes it easier to notice them about yourself. And these are not absolute questions. In relationships, we go moment to moment to moment to moment. And so they're dimensions that keep shifting. I can be engaged in a healthy behavior in one moment, and then all of a sudden I'm reaching for the doughnut and I'm engaging in an unhealthy behavior. And now what am I gonna do about that? Keith Witt: Am I gonna adjust towards health or am I going to eat the doughnut then eat another doughnut? If I do that as a habit, then I'm not maintaining my physical health, for instance. And in relationships, we're always kind of adjusting... When I was talking earlier about being in growth power hierarchies, and then adjusting from dominator hierarchies to growth hierarchies, that's attending on a moment to moment, and these five dimensions are ways of adjusting. Am I showing up appropriately for my son? Am I expressing admiration and respect for what my wife finds deeply meaningful? And if I'm evaluating a partner, does this person do these things? And if the answer to even one of these is no, then there's gonna be problems. That doesn't mean you don't get in a relationship, but what it does mean is you have a conversation about it. Keith Witt: And if you can ask yourself these questions about yourself and other people, what that does is it opens you up to have these be continua that you can discuss, they make them talkaboutable in relationship. And one of the big problems that couples have is they have one set of agreements on top that they usually hear in their marriage vows, and a whole different set of agreements below the surface that never get discussed until a problem comes up. You know, a great one is, I promise to be faithful for you. That's a public agreement. And then, the private one, unless I have an opportunity to have great sex with somebody else and I have this conviction that you'll never find out about it. Neil Sattin: [chuckle] Right. Keith Witt: Yeah. Well. If that agreement, if that private agreement is examined by me and discussed with you, I'm less vulnerable to have that happen. Number one predictor of affairs is opportunity and people have an opportunity and they're not prepared because these things have not been talkaboutable with another person. That's one of the reasons I have two or three chapters on affairs and what to do about affairs in Loving Completely. Even if you never had an affair or if your partner has never had an affair, it's useful to understand the dynamics of affairs because those dynamics affect everybody, and if we're aware of those dynamics, awareness regulates. And so being more woken up and more aware helps prepare us. Now, this is my bias, my bias is I like to understand everything, that's why I like Integral Studies. Integral Theory is a meta-theory that has a lot of theories inside it. Keith Witt: And other people don't particularly like to grow in that fashion. But if there's one approach that speaks to you around any of these, okay, you can just dive into that approach. But you don't dive into the approach unless you realize it's something that needs attention. And asking yourself these questions about yourself and your partner and having them be modes of discourse between you and your partner, if some problem does happen in intersubjectivity, if there is a problem in your friendship, your love affair, your ability to receive influence or support of each other's personal evolution and collective evolution, it's more likely to come out and now you have a language to discuss it and to resolve it, and you have a growth mindset to make it better. And you have an orientation, we wanna turn this into deeper love and compassionate understanding of each other. And that's what creates the great relationships. Neil Sattin: Right. I love hearing someone saying, "Oh, I just started seeing this person and we decided to start going to therapy together so that we were getting support." Or, "I just got together... " Actually I just had this happen with someone who said, "I just started this relationship... " And they had actually purchased the course that Chloe and I put together called Thriving intimacy. Keith Witt: Great. Neil Sattin: For a previous relationship, and they said, "We're starting off doing the course together." And I love hearing that because not only are they skill building, but yeah, they're creating that common dialogue of common vocabulary, a way to talk about things. And I think one of the biggest challenges is especially around those things that are scary like someone for instance saying, "I don't know if I have what it takes to be faithful." Wow, what a scary conversation to have with your partner. So any framework that you have that gives you the ability to talk about that and to keep each other safe in that conversation is so powerful and important for helping you strengthen rather than repeatingly shying away from those kinds of topics. Keith Witt: Yes. And it's hard to talk about difficult things. You get easily threatened. And those defensive states show up. And if you're not aware, if you can't see those defensive states, then you tend to have those downward spirals that you talked about. But if you're aware of them, and you adjust back into those dialectics, those states of healthy response in the ways we've been discussing, then you can sustain the conversations. People, if they have a bad time, will tend to avoid the conversation. There's one study that showed if a guy initiated sex with his partner and she said no once, there was a certain number of guys that never initiated again. That one negative experience was enough to close down that conversation. Neil Sattin: Wow. Keith Witt: That's really a bad thing in intimacy. You want your intimacy to be marked by more and more things being talkaboutable, not less and less, not fewer and fewer things. Neil Sattin: Yeah, I love that. Talkaboutable. I think I'm gonna start using that. That... Keith Witt: There you go. Neil Sattin: Phrase. Yeah, it's a good one. Keith Witt: My gift to you. Neil Sattin: Thank you, thank you. One last thing, and we could talk about this forever. Obviously, I think every time you've been on the show we've spoken for quite a while and there's so much to digest here, and I do encourage you to, if you haven't heard the first two episodes that Keith and I did together, definitely go check them out. Episode 13, Episode 80. And there's so much in your book. I'm really excited for it to be out because it encapsulates so much. And as you mentioned, there are a couple of chapters on affairs. As I read through it, I was like holy mackerel. There's a couple of chapters on just about everything. Which isn't to say that it's this long slog of a read, you're actually a very entertaining and engaging writer, which I really appreciate. Keith Witt: Thank you. Neil Sattin: But there's a lot here for you to get that different growth oriented integrally informed perspective on all these different facets of relationship. What I'm curious about, from your perspective, Keith, is this is something that we've been touching on. And we touched on it in the dimension of... And I even had my own confession here. Yeah, I know I'm supposed to get compassionate right now, but I can't fucking do it. [chuckle] There's so much that we are learning about how to have better relationships and yet it requires us to change what we habitually do. It requires us to not just hear it and be like, "Yeah, that's awesome." And maybe to not even just tell our partner about it, but it requires us to actually shift the way that we behave and to follow through on that over and over again, especially because sometimes the initial shift doesn't yield the results that we are hoping for. Neil Sattin: So it's like, you gotta stick with it. You talk in the book about mastery, and that initial like you learn a lot and then you have this plateau and it takes a lot of effort to get through that plateau to the place where you have another growth spike. So I'm curious, if I'm listening to the show and saying, "Alright, this stuff sounds great, it sounds really great. In fact, it's amazing." What do I do to remember it tomorrow so that I actually can put this thing into practice tomorrow? Keith Witt: First of all, do the loving-kindness meditation a lot. The more irritated I am with somebody, the more of a positive impact on me the loving-kindness meditation has. And so that's kind of the first place I go when I get pissed off at somebody and I gotta tell you, I've been doing it quite a lot the last year and a half in that state. And the other thing is to ask those five questions, ask them all the time, not just with your partner but with everybody. Ask... Notice them in yourself. Am I... How am I doing with these five questions? And just to get information. Just to have... Do it from a perspective of compassionate understanding. I wanna understand, and by asking those questions your unconscious will give you answers. And as that happens, you're strengthening that perception, that perceptual capacity to notice these things and to be interested in these things and to be able to discuss these things. Keith Witt: Now, why is this super important? None of us exist independent of everybody else. So we have our history and we have all the cultures that we were in, embedded in our personalities and in our relationships. An American culture has, over the last hundred years, has gradually been waking up. Psychotherapy and psychology has influenced it to some extent. And in the 21st century, more and more psychotherapists are recognizing that psychotherapy is not primarily about identifying psychopathology and treating it like an infection. Psychotherapy is about supporting people's development, relationally, individually, it's about supporting people's personal evolution, supporting people being healthy and happy, and having coherent lives and growing. Keith Witt: And then along the way, there's blocks and problems that are natural functions of being human beings. And that those are difficult. The human nervous system, once it establishes a defensive pattern, doesn't want to give it up. That pattern has to be included and transcended in a more complex pattern and that requires conscious effort on our part. And ideally, these things would be taught from birth onward, but they're not. So what we do is we start whenever we start and learn things and do our best to implement them. And receiving influence from carrying other people is a super power as I said in the beginning. And particularly from our partner. Now hostile influence is not caring influence. If somebody wants to dominate me, and I'm influenced to submit, that doesn't do us any good relationally, okay? Keith Witt: But someone influencing me when I'm being pissed off, inviting me into a growth hierarchy with them, inviting me into mutual understanding, and if I can receive that influence and do it, then we've taken our relationship at that moment to a greater level of complexity. Like you and Chloe did in the example that you gave. Okay, we wanna do that, we wanna get better at that throughout our lifetime, and we want to teach our children how to do it. And with our partner, we wanna help our partner do it and generally insist on partners who are willing to grow with us. They don't have to be as deep as we are in any developmental line, but if they're willing to grow in any of the significant lines of development, the psychosocial, the sexual, the moral line, and so on, we can continue to get more loving and more complex and human development goes in the direction of more compassion, more deeper understanding, deeper consciousness. Keith Witt: And with couples, it goes to having a more and more special intersubjectivity. And that intersubjectivity is beautiful and powerful and really the most powerful and delicate relationship that's ever existed is a modern marriage where people can maintain this container, this friendship and love affair and repair of injuries and support each other's evolution. It's the developmental driver. As you begin to do that with someone, you value it, you get a little bit protective of it. It's easier to not let outside influences screw it up and it's easier to adjust when you have primitive incursions from your trauma history or from your early learning. Neil Sattin: I have a question. How do you... Can you give me an example of this is the moment to exercise my power to receive caring influence? And I know I sort of offered one with Chloe, but I'm curious how would that... When does that typically arise for a couple so that they're like, "Oh this is the perfect time. Caring influence is available for me. Let me receive." How would I identify that. Keith Witt: Great example. You're having a conversation with your partner. I've had this happen with Becky many times. She'll say something. I don't know. She'll make a comment about taking care of somebody. She errs on the side of co-dependence occasionally. And I'll go, "Cheese." Just like that. Really? You're gonna take care of that person? Now you can hear the contempt in my voice, right? Now at that point, if I'm looking at her, I see a wave of pain go across her face. And she'll... These days, she'll say, "Geez, that was kind of a nasty tone." Now, 40 years ago, I would have said, "Well, yeah, yeah, well, you're thinking of doing a really stupid thing. That's why I used a nasty tone." Okay, well, I learned from bitter experience that that really wasn't a very good response to that. That was a stupid response 'cause it just made things worse. Keith Witt: So what I'll do is go, "Yeah, she's right." And I'll go, "I'm sorry. I know if I think it's a bad idea I use the dismissive tone, and I apologize. I am worried that you're gonna do something that will hurt you, that might not be appropriate to do, and so I got contemptuous, I apologize." I received influence. I changed what I thought and how I did. Neil Sattin: Got it. Keith Witt: Now she, on the other hand, was not caught up in the fact that I used a contemptuous tone 30 seconds earlier. She could have been. She could have said, "Well, you said that. And used that nasty tone. Screw you." "Well, I'm sorry I used a nasty tone." "It's too late." People will say that, it's too late. Well, it needs to not be too late. If your partner is doing their best to shift. And so all Becky will do is go, "Thanks, I appreciate it, and I'll do my best to not be codependent with this person." She'll receive influence from me then. Okay? It's is as simple as that. If you just do it on the level of tones. Is my tone communicating respect and care? If it's not, I'm sorry. By definition, I'm sorry. It's not like, "Oh yeah, I'm sorry, unless you deserve it." Keith Witt: No, nobody deserves a contemptuous tone. I'm a martial artist. I studied karate and lots of other martial arts for decades. You know, the only time that you do violence to another person is in a street fight, and then you do it respectfully. The other person really could care less whether you're being respectful when you're breaking their arm, but you know that you're doing it respectfully. Every other situation, setting boundaries, we talked about earlier, telling somebody you need to stop doing that 'cause that's hurting. All of that can be done respectfully. That's the standard. And once we embrace that standard, which is basically a nonviolent standard, it's not a passive standard, it's a nonviolent standard. It organizes us whenever we have a little bit of violence of tone or deed or thought or so on, to say, "Yeah, that was violent, I apologize." And that... Noticing that in itself, and then making that adjustment changes everything. Neil Sattin: Yeah, yeah, and following on the question before I'm listening and I'm saying, "Okay, I want, I need to remember to do that tomorrow, I need to remember to do that tomorrow." Like on this core level of recognizing, okay, I have a habit of not doing that and I realize we probably don't have time right now to go into a whole conversation about how to change habits, but what would be the first step that someone could take to ensure that, okay, I'm not gonna just do tomorrow what I habitually do. I'm gonna maintain my awareness of some other options that exist for me. Keith Witt: Almost any contemplative practice helps. There's a real interesting study that was done on psychotherapists. Psychotherapists who did contemplative practice, which is any kind of meditation that focused on compassionate inner awareness, they had higher empathy scores. But when they stopped doing their practice, their empathy scores went down. Neil Sattin: Wow. Keith Witt: So having some mindful practice, and those five questions if you're asking them about yourself is a mindful practice. Paying attention with acceptance and caring intent, what you're feeling, thinking, judging, wanting, sensing, is a mindfulness practice. Doing that mindfulness practice and being able to recognize when you shift into violence, when you shift into diminishing another person. Or when you're feeling that sense of attunement where the sky is the limit. You and I are going back and forth in that intersubjectivity that we all love so much, that seekers love so much with other seekers, where we're looking for deeper truth together and both of us are kind of alert to what's gonna emerge between us. There's a palpable difference between those two moods of discourse. Once that becomes visible to you, it becomes way easier to regulate it. And what is visible to you as a couple? Now you've changed. That's a developmental milestone when that's visible for a couple. Keith Witt: And they both feel a sense of responsibility to maintain the positive intersubjectivity, and to make adjustments with the negative intersubjectivity. So there's the answer, attunement, contemplative practice, and noticing the difference between those two states. And recognizing it's my responsibility to adjust from the negative state to the positive state. Just like you did with Chloe. I have a problem. What's my responsibility? My responsibility with her now is to lead with my vulnerability. I really don't know what to do. You're upset. I'm kind of conflicted. I don't know what to do. That vulnerable response was the most powerful response you could give in that moment. It invited her to understand and to offer her own vulnerability and out of that you guys came to a greater level of complexity with each other. Neil Sattin: Perfect, yeah. Well, Keith, thank you so much as always for being here with us to chat about relationships and your experience combined with all the research you've done. I really enjoy our ability to enter that highly attuned intersubjective space together and hopefully it's enjoyable for you listening as well 'cause you can tell. I think we both get kind of excited about it. Keith Witt: Yeah. It's really fun. It's really fun talking with you, Neil. Neil Sattin: Awesome. Keith Witt: Just gotta say, this is really... This is really a good time. [chuckle] Neil Sattin: Good, awesome. Well, then, we know we'll have another opportunity for sure, in the future. In the meantime, if you are interested in finding out more about Keith's work, do check out his new book, Coming Out, Loving Completely. He has many other books that are all great that I recommend for sure. Keith, what's your website? What's the best way for people to find out more about what's happening with you? Keith Witt: Just go on my website, drkeithwitt.com. There's lots of free lectures and lots of blogs. If you sign up, which is free, you get a free copy of my book, Attuned Family, and I'll send you free content from some of the classes that I teach, or the lectures that I've done. And there's also lectures for sale and classes for sale on my website. So, yeah, go to my website, check it out. Neil Sattin: Awesome. And... Keith Witt: Take something for you. Neil Sattin: And we will have, as I mentioned at the beginning, a detailed transcript available for you if you visit neilsattin.com/completely, as in Loving Completely or text the word PASSION to the number 33444 and follow the instructions. Keith Witt, such a pleasure to have you back here and thanks so much for all of your wisdom and knowledge today. Keith Witt: Thank you for having me.

Ever feel like every day is the same and nothing you do matters?  Really? Hmm… well, maybe we should talk about this…   Jeff Salzman of DailyEvolver.com returns for an Integral Chat where we watch and react to the 1993 classic of comedy, romance, and Consciousness Evolution… Groundhog Day! Of course you’ve seen it. You … Continue reading Watch and React – “Groundhog Day” →

Rebel Wisdom's David Fuller made the first documentary about Jordan Peterson in January, since then he has become one of the polarising public figures in the world, especially to those on the left of the political spectrum. In a new interview - and accompanying podcast, David Fuller and Alexander Beiner of Rebel Wisdom examine the crisis on the left, through the prism of Jordan Peterson's thought. Rebel Wisdom Discord Chat: https://discord.gg/rJtyfFV This film is part of a larger Rebel Wisdom series, "Jordan Peterson and the left, a new conversation". The other films are as follows. 'Jordan Peterson, censorship and the left', with novelist Tim Lott: https://youtu.be/yRmvzqc8BkU 'What can the left learn from Jordan Peterson', with Matthew Segall and Jesse Estrin from the California Institute of Integral Studies: https://youtu.be/jwMxmg83aUw 'Jordan Peterson and Integral Theory', with Jeff Salzman of the Daily Evolver: https://youtu.be/hfJbrS75_Gs 'Jordan Peterson and the patriarchy', with Lene Andersen: https://youtu.be/dvyo1w5Ff_A 'Beyond polarisation?' The left & Jordan Peterson, with Ronan Harrington, Alter Ego: https://youtu.be/t6Fwhs3HBGE If you enjoy our films, please consider helping us make more by funding us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/rebelwisdom

Dr. Keith talks to Jeff Salzman about Integral Life’s recent “Tap Your Power” event in Denver, CO, which featured exquisite teachings from himself, Ginny Whitelaw, Beena Sharma, and Ken Wilber on the many facets of power in today’s world — interior and exterior, individual and collective, all the way up and down the spiral of […] The post The Power to Serve appeared first on The Daily Evolver.

It seems that last week, during my “staycation,” I wandered my way into a five-day food fast. What started as a low-commitment experiment on Monday morning ended on Saturday with me in appreciation of some surprising and powerful results. I was inspired by friends and motivated by a book they recommended, The Complete Guide to […] The post Notes From My Five-Day Fast appeared first on The Daily Evolver.

Corey deVos and Jeff Salzman explore the exhilarating emergence of virtual reality technology and the far-reaching implications it has across the full spectrum of human experience, from entertainment to education, to medicine, art, journalism, spiritual practice, sexuality, communication, and any number of other exciting and potentially groundbreaking applications.

Dr. Keith Witt talks to Jeff Salzman about the negative effects today's polarized politics are having upon people's psychological health, and the strategies you need to become more resilient — and less reactive — to the many stresses of our time. Topics include: The psychological effects of Donald Trump's “bully” style of leadership, and how to counter those effects. Clearing up the confusion between the notions of resilience and of sensitization. How to create and play with polarity, without allowing yourself to become politically polarized. Caution against slipping into the sort of leftist overreach that is largely responsible for the rise of Trump in the first place. Encouragement to become more civically engaged in our political systems.

The Commodore Vic-20, Part I Hello, everyone, and welcome to Episode 73 of the Floppy Days Podcast, where modern computers are simply considered peripherals to the classic computers.  My name is Randy Kindig.  In the computer timeline, we’re still squarely in the year 1980.  In that year, a breakthrough computer, with a great keyboard, color graphics and sound was announced for under $300.  Of course, if you’ve been listening to the last few episodes of the podcast, you know that we’re talking about the Commodore Vic-20.  William Shatner said it best in the TV ads of the time: “The wonder computer of the 1980’s: The Commodore Vic-20”.  So far on Floppy Days, we’ve covered the history of the machine from the perspective of three different gentlemen: Brian Bagnall, historian; Neil Harris, member of the Vic Commando Team; and Michael Tomczyk, leader of that same Vic Commando Team and assistant to Jack Tramiel.  In this episode, friends and fellow podcasters Jeff Salzman and Todd George, help me go through tech specs, peripherals, books, magazines, emulators, Web sites, and more for this groundbreaking machine.  As there was a lot of material to cover, rather than making an extra-long episode, I’m breaking this topic up into 2 different shows.  So, I hope you enjoy part 1 of this episode about the Vic-20.  Before we do that, I want to thank Brent Santin and Peter Cetinski for sharing their memories of the Vic-20.  Later in the episode Brent has some additional memories that he shares with us as well. Web site: http://floppydays.com email: floppydays@gmail.com Twitter: @floppydays Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/floppydays on iTunes and Stitcher (www.stitcher.com) part of the Throwback Network (www.throwbacknetwork.net ) Google Play: https://play.google.com/music/m/I5bhao6ixoxkzq52qlku5mfb43q?t=FloppyDays_Vintage_Computing_Podcast Links Mentioned in the Show: New Acquisitions ZX Spectrum - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum TRS-80 Quick Printer II - http://www.trs-80.org/trs-80-quick-printer/ TRS-80 Assembler/Editor - https://books.google.com/books?id=VjAEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA34  News ZX Spectrum BASIC Jam - https://itch.io/jam/zx-spectrum-basic-jam Upcoming Shows Pacific Commodore Expo at the Living Computer Museum in Seattle on June 10-11 2017 - https://www.facebook.com/events/1171192169619276/ KFest - https://www.kansasfest.org/, Rockhurst University, Kansas City, MO, July 18th-23rd Commodore Vegas Expo v13 - July 29-30, 2017, California Hotel & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex Vintage Computer Festival West - August 5-6, 2017, Computer History Museum, Mountain View, CA - http://vcfed.org/wp/festivals/vintage-computer-festival-west-xi/ VCFMW - September 9-10, Elk Grove Village, IL - http://vcfmw.org/ , https://www.facebook.com/events/805945506224113/ Tandy Assembly - October 6-8, 2017 - Chillocothe, OH - http://www.tandyassembly.com/https://www.facebook.com/events/671911082972172/ Chicago TI International World’s Faire - October 15, Evanston, IL - http://www.chicagotiug.com/tiki-index.php?page=Faire World of Commodore - first weekend in December - Toronto - http://www.tpug.ca/ Indy-area Vintage Computer Get-together - https://www.facebook.com/events/418655208501577/ Feedback Mauricio Vives photos from VCF Southeast on Flickr - https://www.flickr.com/gp/mvives/N02Q99 Computer Chronicles episode with the correct pronunciation of Tramiel - https://youtu.be/AMD2nF7meDI?t=262 NY Times article on correct pronunciation of Tramiel - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/technology/jack-tramiel-a-pioneer-in-computers-dies-at-83.html ASVARO Electronics Flea Market - http://www.electronicsfleamarket.com/ Peripherals http://sleepingelephant.com/denial/wiki/index.php?title=Peripherals

This episode was recorded on Monday, October 10th, the day after the second Presidential debate (the debate preceded by Trump's press conference with four women who accuse Bill and Hillary Clinton of abuse). In it Jeff chats with Integral besties Diane Musho Hamilton and Terry Patten and test drives his theory that this campaign, as appalling as it is, is a powerful engine of cultural evolution and is moving us to a more intelligent and humane place.

History of Personal Computing and Floppy Days performed a live recording of podcast at Vintage Computer Festival SouthEast 3.0 outside of Atlanta, GA. Present were Randy Kindig of Floppy Days podcast, along with David Greelish and Jeff Salzman (from the remote HoPC offices in Pennsylvania). Without further ado, here is the podcast. Show notes will […]

Hi Everyone, and welcome to this special edition of The History of Floppy Days… uh, I mean, One o’clock, Two o’clock, Three o’clock Personal Computing! No, that’s not right… No… wait, it’s the combo podcast of Floppy Days AND The History of Personal Computing podcast! We’re live, here at the Vintage Computer Festival Southeast and I’m your host, David Greelish! Please join me in welcoming my co-hosts, Jeff Salzman and Randy Kindig!   We have three significant machines to discuss on this special podcast, as we’re celebrating three significant milestones in the history of personal computing this year. First, it’s the fiftieth anniversary of the DEC pdp-8, then it’s the fortieth anniversary of the Altair 8800, and lastly, it’s the thirtieth anniversary of the Commodore Amiga.   Links:   PDP-8 Bernhard Baehr's PDP-8/E Simulator for Macintosh - http://www.bernhard-baehr.de/pdp8e/pdp8e.html Willem van der Mark's PDP-8/E Simulator in Java - http://www.vandermark.ch/pdp8/index.php?n=PDP8.Emulator A very portable simulator for PDP-8, works on virtually any modern OS - http://simh.trailing-edge.com/ PDP-8 at Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDP-8   Altair 8800 “Remembering Ed Roberts” at Classic Computing - http://www.classiccomputing.com/CC/Blog/Entries/2010/10/10_Remembering_Ed_Roberts.html “What Both of the Big Computer Museums Forgot to Mention…” at Classic Computing - http://www.classiccomputing.com/CC/Blog/Entries/2015/2/1_Both_Big_Computer_Museums_Forgot_to_Mention....html   Podcast Links   The History of Personal Computing podcast Electric Dreams BBS podcast  

Islamic culture in the Middle East is entrenched in a dialectical antithesis with modernity. Building on the work of moderate Muslim intellectuals, McIntosh argues that the Islamic cultural reform needed to overcome radical Islamism depends on the underlying reform of the religion of Islam itself.

Frank Visser is arguably the chief critic of Ken Wilber, integral theory and the integral community as a whole. Based in Amsterdam, Frank is publisher of the website INTEGRAL WORLD: An Independent Forum for a Critical Discussion of the Integral Philosophy of Ken Wilber which hosts over a thousand essays by mostly dissenting voices in the integral scene. Contrast this to Jeff Salzman and his work with the Daily Evolver. Jeff is an unabashed Wilberian and self-described integral evangelist who “sees the animating power of evolution, inside and out.”  Frank and Jeff spoke by phone before the holidays while Frank was getting ready to head out to an island on the coast of the Netherlands. Visser was once an enthusiastic proponent of Ken Wilber’s AQAL model. In 2003 he wrote the book Ken Wilber: Thought as Passion (SUNY Press), a chronological overview of Ken's life and work through 2003, and has recently released a new online chapter, “Reaching Out to the World”, covering the intervening years. This new writing is far more critical of Ken and the integral movement and has sparked new controversy, most notably a fascinating and fruitful back-and-forth between Frank and Joe Perez, creator of the outstanding Integral Blog. Joe's first volley is entitled “Properly Integral: A Response to Frank Visser's Three Disappointments”, and leads to the rest of the debate. In this podcast Jeff and Frank talk about their differences, which primarily boils down to the question does Spirit exist? Is there a loving intelligence at work in the kosmos? Jeff says “yes”, and Frank says “not so fast.” For Frank, the idea that there is an intelligent force driving evolution, that the substrate of existence is consciousness, or Spirit, is where the line is crossed. To make such claims requires an unhealthy mixing of science and religion. “Wilber is a complicated figure, because he argues for spirit but he includes so much scientific material to back up that case…it's only natural for people who are in the sciences to hold him accountable for how strong is his case.” Of course, the integral project is to integrate the realms of science and mysticism, which have different injunctions and different validity claims, and which have long been estranged. But Frank is skeptical; are we integrating or are we mixing? Probably both, says Jeff, but this is how we move forward. I think you get stronger when you can engage your opposing views, there's no way out of that. Otherwise you create a bubble and you repeat what you already think and that's not very fruitful to me. There came a point when I was stepping over to the dark side, so to speak. I was so immersed in all this critical writing that I took up that role to become a focus for it and that's basically how the website Integral World has received its reputation. I must say that I always am a bit surprised by people who say, well, this is just a junkyard of Wilber bashing or whatever.   ~Frank Visser Part of Frank's skepticism comes from the fact that spirituality is comforting for us. It's always been there to explain things that we can't otherwise understand. When the questions get too difficult, insert “God” and the equation is balanced. And isn't it nice to know that no matter how troubled the world seems, at the end of the day it's all okay because, after all, it's in God's hands. “If you feel there is a kind of spirit behind everything then of course you're safe,” says Frank, “because then it will work out in the end. If you don't have that drive, which is my feeling, things can still progress but you can always fuck it up mightily by depleting the world's resources and so on.” Do we really need a spirit, an animating force in the equation, when the universe is already wonderful and mysterious beyond comprehension? What does it add? We might even understand reality better without it, says Frank. Jeff counters that such a view ignores the interior dimensions of reality, including consciousness itself. The presence of Spirit doesn't negate the scientific view, but to take it away diminishes our experience of life because it is an intrinsic aspect of existence. To see this requires spiritual insight, which is generally the result of a spiritual practice. Science works with the principle that seeing is believing, and spirituality works with the converse: believing is seeing. On a good day I can still relate to the idea of a cosmic evolution and a spirit behind everything and the hope that it gives that things will work out and so on. On a bad day (or a good day, depending on how you look at it) I see different things and I'm not so sure anymore and I'm not necessarily unhappy with that. I'm kind of role-playing, I sometimes think. I play this role of the devil's advocate and I still feel myself connected to the integral field. I don't know where that ends, but it could also be that in a couple of years I'm done with this and I become more positive in my writings or in my expressions. ~Frank Visser Frank and Jeff go on to discuss the idea of free will, politics and current events, the Big Bang, and artificial intelligence. They disagree plenty, but this is how things work themselves out, says Jeff, “If you look at the history of any significant movement…we need to manage the polarities in order to provide the juice for continued evolution.” Frank adds that we should be playful with our positions and not hold them too seriously. “And of course, there's a common ground between two positions where you want to have the best for the earth and humanity and all that lives; even a humanist can consent to that. Then you don't even need to have a spirit behind everything. There's a common ground for people with good intentions.” Listen or download the podcast below, and here's to the juice of continued evolution!

In this episode of The Shrink & The Pundit, Dr. Keith reveals what he’s learned in over forty years as a psychotherapist about cultivating integral love relationships, what the shift to a 2nd tier “love operating system” looks and feels like, and how you go about teaching couples to love completely.    Everything is relationship. Only a small sliver of our brains has to do with our sense of individual self—we're designed to be social, to interact. We're designed to love. Our development depends upon it. And yet, it isn't always easy. Lofty concepts aside, what is the most practical way to teach people how to love and be loved? In this conversation with Jeff Salzman, Dr. Keith Witt–our Doctor of Love himself–shares some of what he's learned in over forty years as a psychologist and therapist, where, he says, “it's always about teaching people how to love more completely.” So what does an integral view show us about love? In first tier structures of consciousness we tend to focus on what's broken. The orienting question is how do I fix it? This extends to our relationships with our families, therapists, friends and lovers, and of course ourselves. We are biased towards looking for problems. There is a wisdom in that orientation, naturally—it will help you—but only up to a point. And then it will hold you back. On the other hand, if we enter into relationship with a bias towards showing up and seeing what arises, more often than not what arises are our strengths and virtues. The orientation here is not fixing what is broken, but asking instead what can we create? Dr. Keith calls this a positive, flex-flow approach. The bridge from a fear-based operating system to a love-based operating system is built by fostering a dialectic between these polarities. As aspiring integralists, growing into second tier structures of consciousness, we want to expand our natural curiosity into those places that keep us from loving completely and welcome the conversation between fear and love. “In higher stages of development you want to turn towards your pain, to deconstruct it until it turns into love,” says Dr. Keith, “and then you have to embody it. It takes courage, and usually a lot of help.” Freud's seminal idea of the unconscious reveals a rich field of practice in intentional development. A hundred years ago people didn't get that our psyches are influenced by forces outside of our awareness. But now most of us do, so much so that as Jeff says, “by the time we reach the postmodern stage we can’t stand the idea that there's a place inside of ourselves that we can't see.” So we get more and more interested in our shadows. The most difficult type of shadow is the kind that we resist. Defensive states cut us off from our sense of self-reflection and are the main impediment to investigating parts of ourselves that may be fragmented and unloved. Changing our defensive states into states of healthy response is one of the main areas that Dr. Keith covers in his teaching because it's so crucial to loving completely. To learn about defensive states, Dr. Keith suggests you write down the last time you felt threatened. “What was your amplified or numbed emotion, distorted perspective, destructive impulse? Where was your empathy and self-reflection?” As you write, you may notice the balance of emotions changing. Over time your mental and emotional states start to become objects in your awareness. A little bit of daylight is all you need in there to begin making adjustments from a defensive response to a healthy response. People bridging into 2nd tier structures of consciousness begin to do this instinctively—the noticing, the turning-towards. When we think about markers or qualities of 2nd tier consciousness, we think of a radical acceptance of the human condition and an affection for all of its craziness, including our own. Turning towards awareness of self and embodying a change will put your attention less on fixing yourself or a partner and more on appreciating and cultivating both of your strengths. Like the simple Buddhist practice of noticing, it can transmute your suffering into wisdom and love. Listen to this episode of The Shrink & The Pundit podcast below. Click here to find out more about Dr. Keith's new self-directed web course, Loving Completely, 5 Ways Relationships Work…or Don't.

Listen along during your tryptophan coma from that large turkey feast as David Greelish and Jeff Salzman present our first Thanksgiving Day podcast episode, focused on the Apple II computer.

Listen along as David Greelish and Jeff Salzman, our "roving reporter", discuss the Vector Graphic, Inc. Vector 1 and NorthStar Horizon computers.

Listen along as David Greelish and Jeff Salzman discuss the Cromemco Z-1 and Heathkit H8 computers. We would like to thank Theo Karagiris and Mike Perigo for their detailed input and information.

Listen along as David Greelish and Jeff Salzman discuss several of the early single board computers, including the Nascom 1, OSI Superboard, MOS Technology KIM-1, and the COSMAC ELF. All of the above single board computers don’t easily fit into the History of Personal Computing’s “Tier” philosophy, so this special podcast episode was produced.

Listen along as David Greelish and Jeff Salzman discuss the history of the IMSAI 8080 and Processor Technology Sol computers. The IMSAI 8080 is a Tier One computer presented as the first Altair clone computer. As such, it was chosen to be the first computer we choose in a follow up podcast after the Altair. […]

Listen along as David Greelish and Jeff Salzman discuss the history of the Altair 8800 and Kaypro computer. Well… at least listen to David’s clear, quality audio, along with Jeff’s misconfigured source microphone that sounds like he’s talking from a mile away!

Welcome to the first episode of the History of Personal Computing podcast! In this episode, Jeff Salzman plays host, along with David Greelish, in the premiere episode of your bi-weekly guide to the history and development of arguably the single most important technological advancement of the last forty years, the personal computer! Links mentioned in […]

Second part on the TRS-80 Model I: Personal memories from Terry Stewart (Tezza). Second part on the history of the machine, beginning with its introduction. Second part of the interview with David and Theresa Welsh of Priming the Pump. News, tech specs, peripherals, software, books, magazines, emulation, Web sites, modern-day upgrades. Special guest host Earl Evans!!   Links mentioned in this episode:   New Acquisitions CFFA3000 CF interface for the Apple II -http://www.dreher.net SIDE 2 CF interface for Atari 8 bits - http://www.lotharek.pl MyIDE II CF interface for Atari 8 bits - http://www.atarimax.com   Vintage Computer Shows World of Commodore - http://www.tpug.ca/category/woc/ Vintage Computer Festival East - http://www.midatlanticretro.org/ Chicago CoCoFest - http://www.glensideccc.com/cocofest/index.shtml Vintage Computer Festival Europa - http://www.vcfe.org/E/ KansasFest - http://www.kansasfest.org/   Other News “Sophistication and Simplicity” Book by Steven Weyhrich on Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/dp/0986832278/?tag=flodaypod-20 “CoCo: The Colorful History of Tandy’s Underdog Computer” Book by Boisy Pitre and Bill Loguidice on Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/dp/1466592478/?tag=flodaypod-20 “Vintage Volts” Podcast by Jeff Salzman - http://vintagevolts.com   Magazines TRS8BIT - http://trs-80.org.uk/Tandy_Page_2x.html   Books “Priming the Pump: How TRS-80 Enthusiasts Helped Spark the PC Revolution” by Welsh, Theresa; Welsh, David (2011-02-23).  The Seeker Books - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004P8JNIS/?tag=flodaypod-20   Modern Upgrades SVD, Semi Virtual Diskette - http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/index.php Model I System Expander (MISE) - http://home.comcast.net/~bartlett.p/MISE/ FreHD TRS-80 Hard Drive Emulator  - http://www.vecoven.com/trs80/trs80.html Ian Mavric’s TRS-80 Store http://ianmav.customer.netspace.net.au/trs80/emulator Alan Page Using the Raspberry Pi to emulate the TRS-80 floppy drive - http://virtualfloppy.blogspot.com/   Emulators TRS32 - http://www.trs-80emulators.com/ XTRS - http://www.tim-mann.org/xtrs.html SDLTRS - http://sdltrs.sourceforge.net/index.html   Popular Websites Terry Stewart Model I video on YouTube - http://youtu.be/wgKWV8C3e7M Ira Goldklang's TRS-80 Revived Site - http://www.trs-80.com The Humongous TRS-80 Archive - http://www.classiccmp.org/cpmarchives/trs80.php Newsletter and manual downloads at TRS-80.ORG.UK - http://trs-80.org.uk/Tandy_Page_1x.html TRS-80.ORG - http://trs-80.org PlanetEmu TRS-80 Software Site - http://www.planetemu.net/roms/tandy-radio-shack-trs-80-model-1 MarmotKing TRS-80 Software Site - http://vintage.marmotking.com/trs80_m1/categories.html OLDCOMPUTER.COM - http://www.theoldcomputer.com/roms/index.php?folder=Tandy-Radio-Shack/TRS-80-Model-I/Various/   Other Sites Used for Reference TRS-80 Model I on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80_Model_I

The extraordinary events in our world continue to unfold, so we are taking a look at 2011 with a Year in Review from an evolutionary perspective. Joining Rev. Kelly Isola in conversation for this episode are Jeff Salzman, co-founder of Boulder Integral, and creator of The Integral Incubator, and David Riordan, vice president of Media Development for Integral Life, Inc. Listen in as we try to make integral and spiral sense of the ongoing revolutions in our world.

The extraordinary events in our world continue to unfold ... the Middle East, Obama, Occupy Wall Street, and beyond. So what do you think? Are we currently seeing evolution, revolution or regression taking place? Joining Rev. Kelly Isola in conversation for this episode are Jeff Salzman, co-founder of Boulder Integral, and creator of The Integral Incubator, and David Riordan, vice president of Media Development for Integral Life, Inc. Listen in as we try to make integral and spiral sense of the ongoing revolutions in our world.

The extraordinary events in the Middle East continue to unfold ... Egypt, Libya, Syria, and beyond. So what do you think? Are we currently seeing evolution, revolution, or regression taking place in Egypt? Joining Rev. Kelly Isola in conversation this week are Jeff Salzman, co-founder of Boulder Integral, and creator of The Integral Incubator, and David Riordan, vice president of Media Development for Integral Life, Inc. Listen in as we try to make integral and spiral sense of the ongoing revolutions in the heart of the Arab world.