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Newbery Medalist Katherine Applegate(The One and Only Ivan, Wishtree, Odder) returns to talk about her newest book, Wombat Waiting—a free-verse “destiny dog” story set against California wildfires. We dive into climate change with hope, why picture books still matter for big kids, how to reach reluctant readers, and why “weird is wonderful” might be the best antidote to both peer pressure and AI.Summary:In this episode of the Adventures in Learning podcast, Dr. Diane sits down with Katherine Applegate to explore Wombat Waiting, a lyrical novel-in-verse about a stray dog, wildfires, waiting, and finding your purpose. Katherine shares the real rescue dog who inspired Wombat, how she writes about climate change without overwhelming kids, and why she believes in best-friend books, comfort reads, and picture books for older readers. They also talk about scripted curricula, book bans, and Dr. Diane's Read•Connect•Play•Reflect™ framework for connecting stories like Wombat Waiting to STEM/STEAM, SEL, and inquiry-based thinking. Katherine closes with her core message for kids—“embrace your weird”—and a peek at what she's working on next.Chapters:[02:08] Inside Wombat Waiting: Destiny Dog in a WildfireKatherine shares the California fire inspiration, her real rescue dog Astrid, and why she chose free verse and white space to make a climate story accessible.[04:18] From Stray to Comforter: Character, Community, and Very Few WordsHow Wombat learns to trust humans, the Hachiko connection, and why Katherine loves “chiseling” language down to its most essential form.[08:30] Author Visits, Rally for Reading, and Reluctant ReadersSchool visit stories, one-book/one-school programs, kids meeting a “real author,” and how a “best friend book” like Charlotte's Web can flip a reluctant reader.[11:00] Graphic Novels, Comfort Reads, and Picture Books for Big KidsWhy we shouldn't dismiss graphic novels or series, and how picture books support dyslexic, visual, and older readers while teaching craft and content.[14:07] Curriculum, Book Bans, and Trusting TeachersA candid look at scripted programs, excerpts vs. full novels, and why respecting teacher judgment and giving kids whole books matters for real literacy.[16:21] Read–Connect–Play–Reflect: Classroom Ideas for Wombat WaitingDr. Diane shares practical ways to link Wombat Waiting to climate change, STEM challenges, creative response, and deeper reflection.[22:21] AI, Authentic Voices, and “Weird Is Wonderful”Katherine and Dr. Diane discuss AI's push toward generic voices, why kids need to be their boldest, strangest selves, and how “embrace your weird” empowers readers.[24:10] Climate Themes, Kids Who Care, and Finding HopeKatherine's environmental throughline, the seven-year-old who explained climate change at a school visit, and why informed, passionate kids give her hope.[26:25] Writing for Kids, Staying 11 Inside, and What's NextWhy children are her favorite audience, staying connected to her “inner 11-year-old,” and a glimpse at upcoming graphic/picture adaptations and a new middle-grade fantasy.Links and ResourcesCheck out all of Katherine's books -- and don't miss Wombat WaitingCheck out Katherine's previous appearances on the podcast: Episodes 51, 83, and 132.Learn more about Dr. Diane's Read•Connect•Play•Reflect™ frameworkand contact her to speak or work with your school, library, or district.Support the showShare this episodeIf this conversation sparked wonder, gave you a helpful strategy, or offered a needed reminder of hope, please share it with a friend or colleague.Subscribe • Download • Review • Tell a friendStay updated with our latest episodes and follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn, and the Adventures in Learning website. Don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts! *Disclosure: I am a Bookshop.org. affiliate.
SUBSCRIBE HERE FOR GIVEAWAY: https://bookfairepod.riverside.com/The episode covers new book releases, a report from PEN America on book bans, the introduction of a new audience category in publishing, and a heartwarming story of a young advocate for libraries. The themes include new book releases, book bans, new audience category in publishing, and advocacy for libraries.New Releases:Bear for a Day by Corey R. Tabor (Ages 4-8)The Shrew Detective: The Case of the Pilfered Pearls by Margi Preus, with illustrations by Junyi Wu (Ages 8-12)A wish with Wings by Sarah Guillory (Ages 8-12)Landing in Place by Sherine Hamday, illustrated by Myra El Mir (Ages 12+)This Could All Go Bad by Spencer Hall (Ages 12+)Queerleaders by Olivia A. Cole and Ashley Woodfolk (Ages 14+)TakeawaysBook bans are a significant issue, with a focus on themes of empowerment, self-esteem, and representation of marginalized groups.The introduction of a new audience category in publishing aims to address the evolving themes in young adult literature and separate books written for adults from those targeting teens.Chapters00:00 New Book Releases13:07 Book Bans and Censorship19:20 Advocacy for Libraries
SUBSCRIBE HERE FOR GIVEAWAY: https://bookfairepod.riverside.com/The episode covers new book releases, a report from PEN America on book bans, the introduction of a new audience category in publishing, and a heartwarming story of a young advocate for libraries. The themes include new book releases, book bans, new audience category in publishing, and advocacy for libraries.New Releases:Bear for a Day by Corey R. Tabor (Ages 4-8)The Shrew Detective: The Case of the Pilfered Pearls by Margi Preus, with illustrations by Junyi Wu (Ages 8-12)A wish with Wings by Sarah Guillory (Ages 8-12)Landing in Place by Sherine Hamday, illustrated by Myra El Mir (Ages 12+)This Could All Go Bad by Spencer Hall (Ages 12+)Queerleaders by Olivia A. Cole and Ashley Woodfolk (Ages 14+)TakeawaysBook bans are a significant issue, with a focus on themes of empowerment, self-esteem, and representation of marginalized groups.The introduction of a new audience category in publishing aims to address the evolving themes in young adult literature and separate books written for adults from those targeting teens.Chapters00:00 New Book Releases13:07 Book Bans and Censorship19:20 Advocacy for Libraries
https://www.randismithwrites.com/SUBSCRIBE HERE FOR GIVEAWAY: https://bookfairepod.riverside.com/In this week's interview with Randi Smith the conversation covers the themes of book banning and censorship, as well as the experience of writing for young readers. It delves into the plot of Ada Holloway's Had Enough, the review process and book bans, Ada's missteps and flaws, the support for Ada and the book club, the role of public libraries, the development process of the novel, the role of publishing programs, and Randy Smith's perspective as a writer.TakeawaysBook banning and censorshipWriting for young readersChapters00:00 Introduction and Interview with Randy Smith06:10 Ada's Missteps and Flaws11:20 The Role of Public Libraries19:34 The Role of Publishing Programs
https://www.randismithwrites.com/SUBSCRIBE HERE FOR GIVEAWAY: https://bookfairepod.riverside.com/In this week's interview with Randi Smith the conversation covers the themes of book banning and censorship, as well as the experience of writing for young readers. It delves into the plot of Ada Holloway's Had Enough, the review process and book bans, Ada's missteps and flaws, the support for Ada and the book club, the role of public libraries, the development process of the novel, the role of publishing programs, and Randy Smith's perspective as a writer.TakeawaysBook banning and censorshipWriting for young readersChapters00:00 Introduction and Interview with Randy Smith06:10 Ada's Missteps and Flaws11:20 The Role of Public Libraries19:34 The Role of Publishing Programs
SUBSCRIBE HERE FOR GIVEAWAY: https://bookfairepod.riverside.com/The episode covers new release and news related to book bans, library closures, funding for local libraries, and community responses to book bans. It highlights the challenges faced by libraries and the efforts to support and preserve access to literature.New Releases:Dad by Christian Robinson (Ages 3-6)My Papi's Hands by Melissa Seron Richardson, illustrated by Edel Rodriguez (Ages 6-8)The Last Dragon House by Liv Mae Morris (Debut author, Ages 8-12)Roar by Varsha Bajaj (Ages 8-12)The Unchosen One by AMy Sparkes (Ages 9-12)Queer and How We Got Here: A (Personal) History by Hazel Newlevant (Ages 14+)TakeawaysNonfiction titles banned in the United StatesLocal libraries push for fundingDelivering banned books to peopleChapters00:00 New Releases and Author Interviews13:26 PEN America's Report on Book Bans18:46 Funding for Imagination Library and Local Libraries
SUBSCRIBE HERE FOR GIVEAWAY: https://bookfairepod.riverside.com/The episode covers new release and news related to book bans, library closures, funding for local libraries, and community responses to book bans. It highlights the challenges faced by libraries and the efforts to support and preserve access to literature.New Releases:Dad by Christian Robinson (Ages 3-6)My Papi's Hands by Melissa Seron Richardson, illustrated by Edel Rodriguez (Ages 6-8)The Last Dragon House by Liv Mae Morris (Debut author, Ages 8-12)Roar by Varsha Bajaj (Ages 8-12)The Unchosen One by AMy Sparkes (Ages 9-12)Queer and How We Got Here: A (Personal) History by Hazel Newlevant (Ages 14+)TakeawaysNonfiction titles banned in the United StatesLocal libraries push for fundingDelivering banned books to peopleChapters00:00 New Releases and Author Interviews13:26 PEN America's Report on Book Bans18:46 Funding for Imagination Library and Local Libraries
Rachel and Simon speak with the novelist and short-story writer Lauren Groff. Lauren is the bestselling author of the novels "The Monsters of Templeton", "Arcadia", "Fates and Furies", "Matrix" and "The Vaster Wilds", and the short-story collections "Delicate Edible Birds" and "Florida". "Fates and Furies", "Florida" and "Matrix" were all finalists for the National Book Award in the United States. In 2024 Lauren and her husband opened a bookshop, The Lynx, in Florida, which has an emphasis on books that are currently challenged or banned in the state. We spoke to Lauren about the position of short stories in the literary marketplace, working as a bookseller as well as an author, and her latest collection of stories, "Brawler". In addition to the standard audio format, the podcast is now available in video. You can check us out on YouTube under Always Take Notes. We've also made (yet) another update for those who support the podcast on the crowdfunding site Patreon. We've added a further 70 pages of new material to the package of successful article pitches that goes to anyone who supports the show with $5 per month or more, including new pitches to the New Yorker, Bloomberg Businessweek, and the Guardian Long Read. The whole compendium now runs to a magisterial 230 pages. For Patreons who contribute $10/month we're now also releasing bonus mini-episodes. Thanks to our sponsor, Scrivener, the first ten new signs-ups at $10/month will receive a lifelong license to Scrivener worth £55/$59.99 (two are left). This specialist word-processing software helps you organise long writing projects such as novels, academic papers and even scripts. Other Patreon rewards include signed copies of the podcast book and the opportunity to take part in a call with Simon and Rachel. A new edition of “Always Take Notes: Advice From Some Of The World's Greatest Writers” - a book drawing on our podcast interviews - is available now. The updated version now includes insights from over 100 past guests on the podcast, with new contributions from Harlan Coben, Victoria Hislop, Lee Child, Megan Nolan, Jhumpa Lahiri, Philippa Gregory, Jo Nesbø, Paul Theroux, Hisham Matar and Bettany Hughes. You can order it via Amazon or Waterstones. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
A new report reveals a sharp rise in book bans across the United States, with more than 4,200 titles targeted in 2025. Many of the challenged books reflect Black, LGBTQ+ and diverse lived experiences, raising concerns about coordinated censorship efforts and their impact on education and free expression. Subscribe to our newsletter to stay informed with the latest news from a leading Black-owned & controlled media company: https://aurn.com/newsletter Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In this episode of The Book Faire Podcast, we break down the Books Save Lives Act of 2026, recently introduced by Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley to combat the rise in school library book bans. Host Anthony explores how this federal legislation aims to protect inclusive literature and support the freedom to read nationwide.We also provide an essential roundup of new children's book releases, offering valuable insights for educators, librarians, and parents. The conversation covers critical library news updates, including the Eighth Circuit's ruling on Iowa's book ban and the Minnesota Supreme Court's upcoming librarian case. Join us to learn how these legislative developments and new diverse titles are shaping the future of the elementary school classroom.New Releases:Three Pieces of Broken Glass by Emily Barth Isler, illustrated by Vesper Stamper (Ages 4-8)Forbidden Mountain by Brandon Mull (Ages 8-12)My Sister, the Freak by Dani Jones (Ages 8-12)The Delta Codex by Deva Fagan (Ages 10+)Rialto by Kate Milford (Ages 10+)Forgive-Me-Not by Mari Costa (Ages 14+)
In this episode of The Book Faire Podcast, we break down the Books Save Lives Act of 2026, recently introduced by Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley to combat the rise in school library book bans. Host Anthony explores how this federal legislation aims to protect inclusive literature and support the freedom to read nationwide.We also provide an essential roundup of new children's book releases, offering valuable insights for educators, librarians, and parents. The conversation covers critical library news updates, including the Eighth Circuit's ruling on Iowa's book ban and the Minnesota Supreme Court's upcoming librarian case. Join us to learn how these legislative developments and new diverse titles are shaping the future of the elementary school classroom.New Releases:Three Pieces of Broken Glass by Emily Barth Isler, illustrated by Vesper Stamper (Ages 4-8)Forbidden Mountain by Brandon Mull (Ages 8-12)My Sister, the Freak by Dani Jones (Ages 8-12)The Delta Codex by Deva Fagan (Ages 10+)Rialto by Kate Milford (Ages 10+)Forgive-Me-Not by Mari Costa (Ages 14+)
A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. Tonight on APEX Express, join the Powerleegirls Host Miko Lee speaks with children's book authors Lorraine Nam, Uma Krishnaswami and Maggie Tokuda-Hall about Library Joy in honor of National School Library Month! To Learn More Lorrraine Nam, illustrator and author Michael Threet's book: I'm So Happy You're Here: A Celebration of Library Joy Uma Krishnaswami Her books: Book Uncle Triology Maggie Tokuda-Hall Her book: Love in the Library Every Library Authors Against Book Bans Show Transcript [00:00:00] Opening: Apex Express Asian Pacific expression. Community and cultural coverage, music and calendar, new visions and voices, coming to you with an Asian Pacific Islander point of view. It's time to get on board the Apex Express. [00:00:35] Ayame Keane-Lee: Welcome to tonight's episode of Apex Express Celebrating Library Joy. I'm Ayame Keane-Lee the editor of tonight's show, and part of the PowerLeeGirls bringing you the introduction to tonight's show. Did you know that April is National School Library Month and in just 10 days from April 19th to 25th is National Library Week? The theme for this year's National Library Week is Find Your Joy with Honorary Chair Mychal Threets. The first of three interviews you'll hear my mom, Miko Lee have tonight is with Lorraine Nam the illustrator for the newly released children's book written by that very Mychal Threets called, “I'm So Happy You're Here”. You will then hear Miko speak with Uma Krishnaswami about her children's book “Book Uncle and Me,” and lastly with Maggie Tokuda-Hall about her children's book, “Love in the Library,” and the important work of Authors Against Book Bans. As a library kid and current library worker, I have experienced firsthand the transformative power of library access and the importance of inclusive and diverse storytelling. In and out of schools, libraries are vital to nurturing and uplifting the autonomy and sovereignty of children, which always has and continues to be a liberatory practice. We hope tonight's show will inspire you right into your local library to check out some of the great books mentioned here or to put them on hold. Let's listen in. [00:02:06] Miko Lee: Welcome, Lorraine Nam, illustrator of amazing children's books. Welcome to Apex Express. [00:02:13] Lorraine Nam: I'm excited to be here. [00:02:16] Miko Lee: I wanna start with a question I ask all of my guests, which is, who are your people and what legacy do you carry with you? [00:02:24] Lorraine Nam: Who are my people? I would say creative people. People who are interested in having an open mind, and looking at the bright side of things, the beautiful things, people who are curious. The type of legacy that I bring I think is just my parents who are creative and then bringing that, to this new generation. [00:02:57] Miko Lee: Thank you for sharing. I am, I'm looking at your beautiful face, and behind you is this, find your joy and, and it's in lots of colors on this pink banner and in at the top we see opening up of a library door with Mychal Threets, who's the author of this book, “I'm So Happy You're Here: A Celebration of Library Joy.” I'm wondering if you can talk about your collaborative process with Mychal Threets. [00:03:25] Lorraine Nam: The first impression that you have of writer and illustrator for a picture book is that they work really closely together, and that's actually not the case. We work pretty separately, but I was very excited. Mychal wrote the words to this book and they were looking for an illustrator and my agent called me and she asked me if I was interested. I was very excited about the project. I signed up for it and we worked pretty separately. We connected on Instagram, but he pretty much had no art notes, everything was pretty much whatever I was open to. Then we met for the first time and we got our very first copy of the book and we met in New York. [00:04:10] Miko Lee: And what was that like? [00:04:12] Lorraine Nam: Um, amazing. He is exactly who he is in his videos. [00:04:18] Miko Lee: Can you share for our audience who he is and a little bit more about him, just in case folks don't know. [00:04:24] Lorraine Nam: The book calls him a librarian ambassador. He describes himself as a reader, a lover of librarians or the number one fan of libraries. This is his first book and he's also the host of Reading Rainbow on PBS. We met at the New York Library, public Library for the first time, and he's just so nice, very kind. Honestly, it felt like we already knew each other just because we had been talking through the publisher about the book. [00:05:02] Miko Lee: Thank you for sharing. It's so beautifully illustrated and you have a incredibly diverse,, amount of people in the book, both racially but also physically, and I really appreciate how you encapsulated that. I'm just wondering what inspired you to develop this specific imagery for this book? [00:05:22] Lorraine Nam: Yeah, so one of the only stipulations in the art notes was that he wanted to have a diverse group of people attending the library. People of all ages of all color, all sizes, all disabilities. That seemed like a no brainer to me because I just know the message that he puts into the world. The only difficult part was narrowing down the cast. There's all these different types of people and just trying to figure out who to focus on. I wanted to make sure that you still see the same group of kids over and over. So it felt like you were following the along throughout the day, while still having lots of diversity and lots of different types of people. [00:06:11] Miko Lee: Had you set what the cover was gonna be at the beginning or did that come after you had already finished the whole book? [00:06:19] Lorraine Nam: Oh, that came much later. We pretty much had the art for the interior nailed down, and then we were working on concepts for the cover. I knew from Mychal's social media presence that maybe he didn't want to be the poster cover of the book. He wanted to be about the library goers and the people rather than himself. And so I was kind of towing that line of like obviously people wanna see him, it's his first book. They're such huge fans, and so like how much to put Mychal in and how much to showcase him, as well as showcase like all the other people who go to the library. [00:07:02] Miko Lee: He definitely does have a joyous kind of ebullient vibe to him. I recommend for audience to check out his socials because he has this, you wanna listen to him. He's so inviting and I love the poster behind you because he is saying, like, “welcome, come into the library. This is my world.” And you also made him look so cute. Really looks like a cartoon version of him. So sweet. In your artistic process, I'm wondering what helps you define the style of art you utilize? I'm thinking about the paper cutouts that you did for a tale of two princes. What is it about the work that inspires you to select that type of style? [00:07:43] Lorraine Nam: I actually had a very winding path to the style that I have today. So the style that I have today is very much layered. It's painted, a lot of it is painted. And then I cut it out and then I glue and collage different elements, and then I scan everything in and enhance certain aspects through Photoshop. But a lot of it started actually in wanting to make a physical book. So it was with book binding and then with book binding, because that's just a technique to produce a product, it was what goes in those pages and that's when I started doing cut paper. So just silhouetted, cut paper. And I was doing that for a long time, just cutting out rice paper to make silhouettes. I wanted to tell more of the story and depict people. So then I started making paper cut [laughs] sets. So I would build —almost like Legos— a whole set of paper buildings and paper people and paper objects that are three dimensional. And then I would photograph them. And then from there, I landed in this more 2D, but playing with still technique and texture and layers. [00:09:10] Miko Lee: Wow, that's so interesting. Can you share a little bit more about your artistic process? Do you start at a certain time of day? Do you only work at night? Do you have a whole studio set up? [00:09:20] Lorraine Nam: well, For the book projects because there's such a timeline to 'em and they're very specific. I'll do very loose sketches on Post-it notes. They're readily available and then you can stick two of them next to each other to make a full spread. I use these post-its, and then I would just fold them in half and use that as like very quick pencil drawings. And then if I had something that I liked, I would just go in and pen. But they were still very small. So it was more about looking at silhouettes and composition. And then I would print, it's a very old school technique, but I would print out all the text for the book and cut 'em out. And double sided tape and just stick them on to see where the text should be on the page and where it could fit. I would just do that manually until I had something that I liked a little bit more. Then I would start creating digital, like line drawings. [00:10:21] Miko Lee: And are you lining this all up on a wall or putting it on the desk? [00:10:26] Lorraine Nam: Um, so they're in like a notebook. [00:10:29] Miko Lee: Oh, you put 'em in book format? [00:10:31] Lorraine Nam: It's all the spread. So it should take about two pages basically. You should be able to look at it and look at it from like an eagle eye perspective of what the entire book will look like and what the flow will be like, and if there's closeups or this is like a far away saying, you get more of the like, setting of the library. [00:10:52] Miko Lee: And with the font printed out really small so that it's on the bottom of that Post-it note. [00:10:56] Lorraine Nam: Mm-hmm. [00:10:57] Miko Lee: Wow, that is so fascinating. And what is it when you're eagle eye-ing, what are you looking for? [00:11:04] Lorraine Nam: I'm pretending that I'm a kid looking at a book for the first time, with zero context and maybe zero reading level skill and just looking at the pictures and seeing if I can spot the same character and if there is a story that follows along, because this is a library book where it doesn't talk about specific people. I wanted to be able to follow each character in the book and see what their day was like in the library. So when they first came into the library, what they were doing during the day, what friends they made, and then maybe them leaving or, you know, a resolution of some kind, like their parents are checking out symbols at the library. [00:11:52] Miko Lee: the concept of having the character go throughout the book. Was that in the instruction or was something that you created. [00:11:59] Lorraine Nam: That was something that I wanted. Because I know looking at picture books, the pictures can also tell a story where, the words, it might not be in the words. So I wanted there to be more of a layered storytelling through image. [00:12:18] Miko Lee: I appreciate that as a mom. I remember when my girls were little, they would always say, where is that rabbit on the page? Or where is that thing? And so being able to track a character all the way through, is quite delightful. It adds another dimension for the multiple readings. You mentioned before about how you didn't really meet Mychal, the author of the book until the very end, and I guess that's common as an illustrator and you've worked with so many different experts in their fields from, physicist Neil Degrasse Tyson to Skater Nathan Chen. How is their very different fields, how does that impact your art making? [00:12:57] Lorraine Nam: It's actually the most fun. It's what drew me to illustration in the first place. I love being able to do like a deep dive and a specific subject that I wouldn't necessarily have gravitated towards and do that research. I actually do go to the library. I start the process at the library and I look at all the books about that particular topic, and then see what other people have done. And so working on the book for Neil deGrasse Tyson, it was so much fun looking at different how space is depicted the idea of galaxies and making that tangible and real for kids. And then for Nathan Chen, I was already a fan before I got the project, so it was very easy. But watching the videos, seeing all the different techniques and for his book it was more looking at sports books. Because he's such a unique person in his specific field in figure skating that there weren't very many books on figure skating and most are of a female portrayal. I was looking more at sports and how people show different types of movement, , and show like form. And the more technical aspects that are very, very, very specific and very critical to those things. [00:14:32] Miko Lee: And how did that manifest into your book? [00:14:35] Lorraine Nam: Um, a lot of drawings of like, the breakdown of his jumps and trying to figure out can a child do this jump [laughs]? And also doing a lot of research 'cause he's a very private person. His book is not about him, it's not a biography, but it's also loosely based off of him. You know, I have two other siblings. If I had a book based off of me, I want my siblings to be involved and represented in that as well. So I included his family, even though they're not a huge part of the book, his siblings are not like big characters. But they're still represented in there. So he can still be like, oh that's my family. This is based off of my story. [00:15:32] Miko Lee: So when you're doing these approaches, like including Nathan's family or in the library book, making sure characters go all the way through, is that something you have to check in with the writer about, to see if they're okay? Or is that something that you just do and then you submit and you see if they like it? [00:15:50] Lorraine Nam: That's something that I do, that I find joy in and see. Usually the first eyes on my sketches are the publisher and the art director. And I actually have no idea what, at what stage they really share the sketches, if it's like at a more finalized stage or if it's an early on one, but I usually just go with my own ideas and see what they think about it. [00:16:20] Miko Lee: Wow. I didn't know that you could have that much say into it. That's lovely. You talked a little bit about using the library for research. Gosh, I imagine that Neil deGrasse Tyson, there's so much research on it, that must have been a deep dive. I'm wondering what the library meant to you as a child. [00:16:38] Lorraine Nam: Yeah. I grew up as a big reader. The library for me it was a magical space that I wasn't really sure what it was. My parents, because they grew up in Korea and moved here to the States, there was a big language barrier between us and they're also very not talkative people. They just took us to this place one day and it was our local public library and it was right before closing and we were able to check out as many books as we wanted in whatever type of book that we wanted. I felt like that was magical, that there was no limit to it. [00:17:19] Miko Lee: My last question is, what are you working on now? [00:17:22] Lorraine Nam: I'm working on a few books, actually. I'm juggling a few, but they're all very fun and different. I'm doing a book about a boy dreaming of flying, being a pilot. So I think that will be a really fun imaginative book. [00:17:43] Miko Lee: What is one of your books that you would've liked to read to your younger self? [00:17:50] Lorraine Nam: Mm, I probably Wei Skates On, the book with Nathan Chen. ‘Cause his story is about overcoming obstacles and being disappointed. And just feeling frustrated and upset. And I feel like that's an important lesson even in adulthood. It's not really resolved through words. It's more of like the, everyone is there for him, his family is there for him, and they all just want him to enjoy what he's doing and to not care about winning or losing. [00:18:33] Miko Lee: Lorraine Nam, thank you so much for chatting with us about your work and about the library as a magical place, appreciate talking with you. [00:18:42] Lorraine Nam: Thank you so much. I had so much fun talking with you. [00:18:45] Miko Lee: Welcome, amazing award-winning children's book author Uma Krishnaswami, I'm so happy to have you here on Apex Express. [00:18:54] Uma Krishnaswami: Miko, it's my pleasure to be here. [00:18:57] Miko Lee: I wanted to start with a question I ask all of my guests, which is, who are your people and what legacy do you carry with you? [00:19:05] Uma Krishnaswami: What a wonderful question. Who are my people? My people are children who are, my ideal readership is the eight to 12-year-old group. I write for children. I'm not particularly thinking about audience when I begin writing. But at some point I want my readership to feel validated, whether they recognize themselves as being in my stories or my stories are offering them a window into a world that they are not immediately familiar with. So I would say those are my people. [00:19:45] Miko Lee: And what is the legacy that you carry with you? [00:19:48] Uma Krishnaswami: I grew up in India. The year that I was born India had been independent for all of nine years. So I carry very much that colonial legacy. I also am an immigrant to two countries, early in my adulthood to the United States and about 12 years ago to Canada. So my legacy is one of moving and finding new roots, finding community. Those are the things that I try to carry forward in my stories. When I began writing, I lived in the US and I started writing when my son was born. So there I was with a little brown baby and I went looking for books that would represent him and I didn't find them. And I think that is what made me think in my early thirties that, real life people could write children's books because of course the books I had read as a child were all written by people from England and many of them were dead. I kind of thought you had to be dead and British to be a writer. So yeah, it's complicated, isn't it? All of that works into, what you think of as, as your legacy. Having done this for 30 plus years now. [00:21:03] Miko Lee: And you've written so many beautiful books. Tell us about a little bit more about that first book. [00:21:09] Uma Krishnaswami: So the very first book, it was called Stories of the Flood. I realized very quickly that I didn't really know what I was doing. I looked to folk tales and traditional tales as a way to teach me about story. My second book called The Broken Tusk Stories of the Hindu God Ganesha. That is the one that I consider as the book that taught me how to write. I had a wonderful editor [unintelligble] Thorpe at a small press in Connecticut, Linnet Books. She told me to lean into story and to see myself as a storyteller. In a way, every book I've written has taught me how to write. [00:21:47] Miko Lee: Can you tell us about your favorite book as a kid? [00:21:52] Uma Krishnaswami: My favorite book as a kid, it would have to be Winnie The Pooh. [00:21:58] Miko Lee: And what was it about Winnie the Pooh that enamored you? [00:22:01] Uma Krishnaswami: I came to it very early and aunt had traveled to England and she brought me my copy of winnie the Pooh in the House of Poo Corner. And I read them, sitting in very Indian gardens, sometimes up in trees. I spent lots of time up in trees and I took my own geography and placed it over the geography of the book. , So that for me, the a hundred acre wood had lime trees and banyan trees and possibly mango trees. It didn't occur to me, until much later when I read an Enid Blyton reader. I had my moment of disillusionment with Enid Blyton and that's when it really occurred to me that there was an us and a them in, in some of the storytelling I was consuming. [00:22:49] Miko Lee: What age was that where you recognized that? [00:22:51] Uma Krishnaswami: My post-colonial moment? [00:22:53] Miko Lee: Yes. [00:22:54] Uma Krishnaswami: I might have been a 11. [00:22:56] Miko Lee: Oh, wow. And were you still living in India at that time? [00:22:59] Uma Krishnaswami: Yeah, yeah. 11 was a very formative year for me. My grandfather passed away, so it sort of brought mortality , into the framework for me. Also that was my year of disillusionment with Blyton. 'cause I read The , river of Adventure. And the villain in it had my name. He was called. Uma, Raya or Raya Uma or something like that. And yeah, I was just shocked. Just totally shocked. It was pure coincidence, I'm sure. She probably just, pulled the name out of the air and plunked it in. But. I began to notice that he was described as dark skinned and he was described as cunning. All this language that had slid right past me before began to be apparent. So, yeah, [00:23:47] Miko Lee: I love that. That is so amazing. This name, like what? That's my name as the villain. [00:23:53] Uma Krishnaswami: I'm the Bad Guy. No, I'm not. [00:23:56] Miko Lee: And all of your books are such a wonderful clap back to that because you have a multitude of characters and so many different worlds. Initially reached out to you because I started reading book Uncle this trilogy of books that are so lovely. Can you first share a little bit about what the Book Uncle's Trilogy is about. [00:24:16] Uma Krishnaswami: Okay, so it didn't start out as a trilogy. It didn't even start out as a book. It started out as a short story and then it didn't quite fit. It wasn't a picture book. It seemed to have more layers than that, so it kind of grew. But what started Book Uncle and Me was I was visiting my parents in India. At the time, and I was on this very busy urban street and there was this kid sitting on this on the, on the sidewalk. Um, it was kind of a broken brick sidewalk, and she was sitting cross-legged right in the middle and she was reading book and she was just oblivious to the crowd going around her and the. Buses on the road and there were, you know, random goats and dogs running around and she just was ignoring everything and she was absorbed in her book. And I remembered that I had been that kind of reader as a child. There was an election going on at the time as well, and I thought, I wonder what would happen if I put those two things together. And that is how Book Uncle came to be. [00:25:14] Miko Lee: And then there was just, you wanted to live in those characters more, so you ended up writing additional books? [00:25:20] Uma Krishnaswami: Hmm and that's a very good question. And actually no, I didn't, I thought I was done. I wrote Book Uncle and Me back in, I'm say 2009, 2010, something like that. I probably started it in 2010. Um, it got published originally in India in 2012, I believe. And then it was picked up by Ground Wood in Canada and published in Canada and the US so North American edition in 2016. And I thought, you know, I'm done. I'm writing other things. And then come the pandemic and we're all in lockdown. And like a lot of writers, I was doing, um, many, many, virtual. Presentations and programs. Um, and I did something through the North Vancouver Public Library and, there were kids zooming in from, you know, some from home, some from their bubbles, some from classrooms, whatever. And we were talking about book uncle and one of the kids, I think in third grade maybe, she said, Are you gonna write a sequel? And I am just joshing, right? I am. I said, yeah, should I? And they're all going, yeah, you should. And you should write three because you've got three characters you should give them each a [story]. And I'm like, all right guys i'll think about it. I absolutely will but not really taking it seriously. And then as often happens. the session ended and, you know, there we were all in lockdown going nowhere. And I thought maybe, maybe there's something there. Maybe I could return to that. And in a way I was kind of intrigued because I hadn't, had never thought about a trilogy and I was interested in how that would play out. Um, and it was kind of a writing challenge to myself, but honestly, once I started writing Birds on the Brain, which was book two it just kind of, I hesitate to say wrote itself 'cause I, that just seems, you know, so kind of woo woo. But, um, it did, it did. Uh, the, the kid came in and she took over and then a bird flew onto the rooftop and there I was on my way. So that's the story of, of how that that happened. In retrospect, I'm really sorry I didn't ask that child's name because I would've absolutely loved to have acknowledged her in the book. But thank you child from North Vancouver, whoever you are. [00:27:40] Miko Lee: That is so amazing. That's by request, by audience request. You fulfilled this goal of a trilogy and and I I love that they even said, not just a sequel, but a trilogy. [00:27:52] Uma Krishnaswami: Oh, they were. Yeah. They had it. I mean, they had, then they, they figured it out, which was really lovely. [00:27:58] Miko Lee: And those, that trilogy is really geared, as you were saying to the second and third grade audience and I So many of your books are written around kids that can make a difference. What is it about that age that appeals to you and that motivation to show them how they can change the world? [00:28:16] Uma Krishnaswami: I think they have this really, strong sense of what's fair. It's the age at which, you know, you start pushing back against what you see as small unfairnesses in your life. Parental restrictions quite often, or older siblings. You're pushing back. You're doing a little bit of finding who you are. And I think that uh, you begin to get a sense of awareness of the big world outside your small circle. And I think also one of the things that drives me, with writing to this age is that, I feel that it is so unfair that grownups, the adult world, has created so much injustice. And we just kind of expect the next generation to step up and step into it and, and do the best they can. and it just, it doesn't seem right not to at least give them the wherewithal to think about that. And they do, they have children have voices and their voices matter. As we found out with, the climate strikes. I mean it really was young people who brought those messages out into the world and forced us to think about them and talk about them. So, I think that we owe children that. [00:29:34] Miko Lee: So which of your books would you want to read to the second or third grade Uma? [00:29:43] Uma Krishnaswami: [Laughs] Maybe Book Uncle and Me. Because I think there's a lot of second and third grade Uma in that book. I was a compulsive reader like Yasmin. I would've absolutely read a book every day for the rest of my life if I'd had that many books available to me. I didn't. So I read the ones I had over and over again. I lived in an imaginary world, quite a bit of the time. [00:30:06] Miko Lee: Speaking of having access to lots of books, I'm wondering what your relationship was like to libraries, both as a child and then now. [00:30:15] Uma Krishnaswami: I'm a proud and inveterate library goer. I put holds on things. I go browse on shelves. I download eBooks and audio books. I always have a pending list. I'm very, very grateful for libraries and also for librarians whom many of whom I have come to know over my life and am immensely grateful for. I did not have access to libraries much as a child. We didn't have a public library system that was free and available and open to everybody. There were the kind of unofficial lending library types that I feature in Book Uncle and Me. There are sadly fewer of them now, but you still find them on street corners in India. I remember taking a book and giving one and then getting one back in return. That was, that was part of my life in some of the places we lived. [00:31:07] Miko Lee: Did you know an actual book uncle? [00:31:10] Uma Krishnaswami: I didn't actually pay much attention, to the people who handed those books out. I was much more, focused on the books I was getting. There are characters who I've seen who have run these things. I once had somebody email me and say, I'm a book uncle. This is what I do. So that was really nice. [00:31:31] Miko Lee: That's sweet. I wanna roll back and talk a little bit more about your artistic process. I'm wondering if you, as a writer, as illustrator, you can sometimes be in your own world, and I'm wondering what your process is. [00:31:43] Uma Krishnaswami: My place is right here. This is my office room, and I'm standing at a treadmill desk, and usually what I will do, is when I'm writing, I will turn that on very, very slowly. I usually start out at the idea stage with a notebook and a pen. I have fountain pens with very varied colors of ink, and I use those always to write my initial notes and questions about a new story idea. I don't go to the computer and the keyboard until the idea has started showing up quite a few times. In, perhaps in a few iterations, almost as if I'm actually pushing it away at first, you know, saying, don't scratch up my window until you are developed a little bit more. I'm not going to, indulge, the initial shallowness that usually the first idea is often not what it's gonna end up being. I question that, and sometimes this is gonna sound really crazy, but, if I write those questions many times over in different colored inks, the answers begin to break out in clumps. Once I've begun to think, okay, well maybe I, I know what I could do with this. That's when I open up a file. [00:32:56] Miko Lee: Ooh share a little bit more about the different colored inks. How does that work? [00:33:00] Uma Krishnaswami: Um, right over there, there's a whole row of inks, and right over here is a fountain pen, and I have several of them. I change the ink colors, and when I get stuck with something, it really does help to write those questions to myself, in a journal notebook. I have a terrible handwriting, so I used to really worry about when people gave me nice notebooks. Little empty notebooks with beautiful glossy pages. I used to think, God, my writing is so awful. I feel like I'm desecrating this beautiful book. I've gotten over that and it's actually really helpful to physically write that thought for me is very, very useful. [00:33:39] Miko Lee: And when you see the different colors, is it like words that stand out to you, that you piece together? Yeah. [00:33:44] Uma Krishnaswami: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or sometimes I'll write something, in a paragraph, and then I'll break it up and write it in a lineated way, maybe in a different color. You just start seeing things differently when you try different ways of thinking about the same thing. It's all a trick to get the kind of managerial editorial mind out of the way. You need her later, but I don't need her when I'm trying to shape something. [00:34:13] Miko Lee: The, for the creative process. Mm-hmm. The multiple colors just helps [00:34:16] Uma Krishnaswami: Right. [00:34:16] Miko Lee: Pull you into that. [00:34:17] Uma Krishnaswami: Yeah. It just loosens, it loosens my mind up so I don't feel so focused on the objective. I often tell myself, I think Linda Sue Park used to say this. You don't have to write a whole novel. You just write a scene. And so that's what I tell myself, I'm a sceneist. I'm not a novelist. I'm just a sceneist. I write one scene. And that's all I need to write. Then I will write another one and so forth. [00:34:38] Miko Lee: And do you use sticky notes or something to keep those scenes separately or [00:34:42] Uma Krishnaswami: just all kinds of things? I use sticky notes. I use little boards on which I draw plot lines, and then I write, notes to myself. I use the journal notebooks. I've started using Scrivener and I actually have found that helpful but not until I've got something, in enough shape to plug things in. [00:35:01] Miko Lee: Oh, I love hearing about artistic process. That's so fascinating. I appreciate you and you're showing your beautiful pen and everything. It's so great. [00:35:08] Uma Krishnaswami: It's messy, right? One of the things I've learned is to lean into the messiness and not try to organize things too fast, too early. [00:35:16] Miko Lee: Mm-hmm. Giving yourself the time for the creative juices to flow. [00:35:20] Uma Krishnaswami: Yeah. Yeah. [00:35:21] Miko Lee: So my last question is, what are you working on now? [00:35:25] Uma Krishnaswami: I've actually just got done with edits on a picture book, which is going to be called Mango Sun. And then I'm working on another picture book. That's just gone to my agent. It's got to do with wildlife rescue and conservation in the Himalayas. It's an Indian setting, but a very different setting from Mango Sun. [00:35:44] Miko Lee: And most of the ideas from your books are just coming from your imagination or something you read or where are you pulling from to get your inspiration? [00:35:52] Uma Krishnaswami: Everywhere. Absolutely everywhere. I have a picture book that came out of a trip that we took to Galapagos and will it ever take form? I don't know, it's about the rewilding of an island , and how when you bring one species back, the other one follows. Some of it's from my childhood. I have two picture books that came out of a memory of planting a mango seed and watching it grow. [00:36:21] Miko Lee: Sounds lovely. Two of my favorite things, mango and Sun [laughs], appreciate you joining us and sharing about your artistic process and your amazing book. And I'll put a link to your website in our show notes. And thank you so much for joining us and talking to us about Book Uncle and your work. [00:36:37] Uma Krishnaswami: Miko, thank you so much. It's really a delight. [00:36:41] Miko Lee: Welcome, Maggie Tokuda Hall to Apex Express. [00:36:45] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Thank you so much for having me. [00:36:47] Miko Lee: I'm so happy to have you talking about, your wonderful book, love in the Library. But first I wanna, ask you a question I ask my guest, which is, who are your people and what legacy do you carry with you? [00:37:01] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Oh man. I feel like I have so many tribes that I identify with in different ways. , Gosh, who are my people? I mean, generally speaking, angry queer teenage girls very much my people. Tired Jewish aunties also my people. Exhausted Asian mothers also my people, [laughs] librarians and book people are my people. I, I, I don't know. I feel like I have so many people that I feel an affinity toward and an affection for, and kinship with. [00:37:38] Miko Lee: I like you naming all of those because we're multifaceted people and there's many different things that make up who we are. Yeah. And what is the legacy that you carry with you from all these tribes you're a part of? [00:37:50] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: From my mother, I carry a legacy of honoring the truth, like really believing that children are owed the truth and that part of being an adult is being courageous enough to tell it. but I also come from like a vibrant family of Jewish storytellers and I feel like I have that, that I carry with me as well. [00:38:17] Miko Lee: Thank you. So you've written the book Love in the Library about Tamma, a woman who works at a library in the Minidoka concentration camp during World War ii. [00:38:28] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Mm-hmm. [00:38:28] Miko Lee: And she meets George and falls in love. Can you tell me about how you very first heard this true love story of your grandparents? [00:38:40] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: I can't actually, I don't remember the first time I heard this story. It is a story that I've just always known. like for me it's very much a fabric of how I came to understand the world and my place in it. Like sky is blue, grandma and grandpa met in a prison camp, you know, normal stuff. And so, um, [00:39:00] Miko Lee: so it's just part of the family lore? [00:39:03] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Yeah. Like, it's not something my mother was ever shy about telling us. And I truly do not remember the first time she talked to me about it because I remember being very small and already feeling like I knew that story. [00:39:15] Miko Lee: Okay. Then how did you decide to turn it into a children's book? [00:39:19] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Yeah, so, in 2017 when President Trump took office for the first time, in his very first executive order was to sign the travel or Muslim ban where he was banning people from Muslim majority countries from coming to the United States. It was clear immediately that he was gonna be using his time and power to enact a white supremacist agenda. I knew I needed to do all the things that we're supposed to do. Like I called my representatives and I wrote my postcards and I marched and I did all those things. But I really did try to audit what I had to offer, particularly children in that moment. That was unique to me. And I realized I had this beautiful story in my own family, not just about the cruelty of those sorts of policies, but also the resilience and power of the people who they target. [00:40:05] Miko Lee: Ooh. Fired up the, that truth teller part of you just became ready to go. [00:40:11] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Yeah. [00:40:11] Miko Lee: Um, speaking of the impact of politics and what's going on and how that relates to books, I know that in April, 2023, Scholastic wanted to include love in the library in a collection around AANHPI folks, but they wanted to edit your amazingly fierce author's note. Can you share with our audience what happened? [00:40:34] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: I mean, first of all, thank you for calling it amazingly fierce. In my author's note, I talk about how what happened to my grandparents wasn't an isolated moment in American history and that it was racist, which I think is a, a reflection of a very basic understanding of that history. It, it's not, a creative extrapolation and. Scholastic offered to license the book, but my licensing offer came with a caveat, which was that I had to remove that entire paragraph. Um, and I had to remove the word racism from the text altogether. And so I decided to say no and say no publicly. And for about three months, my full-time job was talking about Scholastic, but also about our obligation to tell children, American history, honestly. [00:41:19] Miko Lee: And they wanted you to get word of the word racist. Did they say why? [00:41:24] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Yes, they basically said, the language is too strong and we fear that some teachers won't bring it in for fear of this political climate, which is the nice way of saying like, we have to sell into places where book bans are happening and we think that this language is too incendiary for people who would ban books, which to me was always really, Unsatisfactory logic, because books about Japanese American incarceration are banned all the time and they don't use as strident of language as I use in that author's note. baseball saved us, gets banned. They called us, the enemy gets banned. This story is already considered dangerous by the people who would ban books, so they were trying to hold a center that just doesn't exist. [00:42:04] Miko Lee: And so what did you end up doing? [00:42:07] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: I said no and said no publicly, just with like, sort of the hope of, sparking some intra community conversation among kid lit creators about what sort of edits are appropriate to offer people. I would, I still posit, that that's a completely inappropriate edit and that's about sanding down people of color's, history and perspective to cater to a white audience. And I was unwilling to do it. and Scholastic initially released like a very, incomplete apology. And then when they received a lot of pushback about that, they offered a much more full apology. They offered to meet with me and my publisher, the CEO of Scholastic and the head of their education divisions, which is the division that made me this offer. And then they also had me work with a restorative justice consultant, for like a year to try to figure out what they could do better. But what I said to them at the end of that time that I told them, I was extremely transparent that I would be talking about this publicly. So I don't feel bad saying exactly what I said to them here is, I think the exact same thing would've happened. It just would've happened more politely. [00:43:17] Miko Lee: Wow. [00:43:18] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: I don't think that they actually reexamined what their role is as a publisher of Books for Children under Unconsolidated authoritarianism. They just figured out how to ask people to make racist edits more, more, uh, gently. [00:43:33] Miko Lee: And you worked with them for one year with an RJ consultant. [00:43:36] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: I mean, like, not every day, but we had, you know, meetings over the months. And she was a smart lady. Like I don't think that she, you know, did nothing. I think she was trying her best, but I think that, you know, big institutions are very slow to institute cultural change and that that on the one hand has to happen from the top down, but also can't happen from the top down. [00:43:56] Miko Lee: Mm-hmm. [00:43:56] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: And so I genuinely believe that there CEO was trying his hardest to, to make a meaningful change, but without them really stopping and examining and questioning what their own role in this moment is in a critical way. I don't think that they are going to be able to have answered what I would've required for them to, for me to then accept their licensing offer. ‘Cause they made it again. [00:44:25] Miko Lee: So at the end of the one year long, they made the licensing offer to you again? [00:44:29] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Yeah. I think just to be kind, just as like a gesture of like, listen, we know we messed up. We'd love to license your book and I still said no because I don't think that they made meaningful enough change. [00:44:40] Miko Lee: Hmm. Wow. I love this. What did you learn from this experience? [00:44:47] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: That it is very unusual for people to blow the whistle within publishing, even when the examples are egregious. [00:44:54] Miko Lee: Tell me about your connection with Authors Against Book Bans. Did that come out of this experience with Scholastic, or were you involved actively involved in this prior to that? [00:45:05] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: No, it absolutely came as a result of my experience with Scholastic. Authors against Book Bans is an organization that I'm currently the president of. We're over 5,000 book creators across the country who are united under a single point of view, which is that the government shouldn't be allowed to tell us what to read. That's what we believe and that's what we fight for. And I got involved in founding the group along with specifically David Levithan, who's a really wonderful young adult and middle grade author, who had put together most of this group before I even came on board. Cause we realized that authors needed a central place to fight. There was no one organizing specifically us. And so Authors Against Book Bans was born out of necessity and, the dearth of a place that existed for us. Everyone would call on us to come speak, but it was extremely ad hoc. We weren't making any kind of unified movement, even though we all so passionately agree that, you know, book bans are anti-American and in violation of our First Amendment rights. And, you know, the freedom to read is a necessary freedom for a free and democratic society. and the reason I'd reached out to David initially was because I was hoping to put together something like Authors Against Book Bans, but just by myself, which is, maybe a testament more to my own personality [laughs] problems than anything else, but I was like, I'll just figure it out. And he was like, you know, I'm actually assembling a group that's trying to do this. Would you like to be a part of it? And that's how I came aboard. But I had gotten interested in it because as a result of the Scholastic fiasco, I was invited to give the keynote speech at the Idaho Library Association in 2023. I gave my little speech that I'd been giving a lot then, um, about how we have an obligation to tell American history honestly. And, people were like, the reaction was so emotional to it and so profound and like, I thought it was a good speech. I'm proud of the speech, but like it, something else was going on and I could feel it. And I started talking to the people who were there and when these librarians started telling me what they had gone through, just for making books like mine available to children, stalking, harassment, death threats. One of them had been followed home, like really frightening, scary things happening to them on like, in some cases a daily basis. I realized like I was gonna be a part of this fight. That was that. I wasn't gonna let them fight alone. And so, you know, in, in my advocacy work now, Idaho still holds like a very precious place in my heart because I think that it's a very forgotten state. When we think about places that need help, when we think about places that have been gerrymandered, when we think about places where there are so many good people who are disenfranchised and unable to affect meaningful change in their state level, governments. That have just been absolutely run roughshod over by Christian nationalists. We should be thinking about Idaho. They have, I think, like the highest neo-Nazi population in the United States. so it's a very direct line between my grandparents being incarcerated to the activism that I do now. And it wouldn't have happened without Scholastic's offensive offer. [00:48:22] Miko Lee: I did not realize that librarians were personally being assaulted or attacked or followed. For books. [00:48:29] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: You should watch, the librarian's documentary that's now streaming on PBS. Okay. Um, it's common across the country. Amanda Jones, who's an Authors Against Book Bans member no big deal, is a librarian in Louisiana that can't go grocery shopping in her own hometown anymore for fear for her own safety because she has taken a stand to like refuse to remove lgbtq plus books from her school library shelves. It's really dire. And I think people understand objectively that book bans are a problem in our country. I do not think that they understand how violent that this fight is. It's a really dark and hard time to be a librarian. So if you're a person who supports libraries, you should be thanking your librarians and letting them know one-on-one and in person face-to-face that you appreciate the work that they do, because there are people who are making their lives really difficult. [00:49:25] Miko Lee: Can you talk about what the library meant to you as a child? [00:49:30] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: I mean, honestly it was like a part-time babysitter. You're a kid, there's a library. Entertain yourself, you figure it out. I think the first time I really felt like a sense of belonging in the library was in middle school. We moved from LA to Northern California and I had to start a new school in seventh grade. I didn't really know anyone and it was embarrassing to not have people to eat lunch with and things like that. So I would eat lunch in the library. And the librarian was really kind about it. Like she never called attention to it. She never embarrassed me about it. She would let me sneakily eat in there, even though there was a very specific rule that you weren't allowed to eat in the library. she put, the Enchanted Forest Chronicles on an end cap once, and that's how I found them and ended up reading the entire series and that was really when I became a fantasy reader and you know, my debut novel was a fantasy novel. I still feel very much like a fantasy reader kind of at heart, and that started there. I mean, we never know when libraries are going to save a kid's life. [00:50:39] Miko Lee: Can we go back to how you ended up writing this book about your grandparents' experience? Sure. And what was the first spark for you to say, I wanna turn this into something. It's a family lore, but I want more people to know about it. [00:50:54] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: I mean, the Trump administration thing, [00:50:56] Miko Lee: it was truly that. You said it was [00:50:57] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Yeah. Trump was it [00:50:58] Miko Lee: Trump got elected. People should know this happened. [00:51:00] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Yes. What do you have to tell children in this moment If they're Muslim, they're scared, and if they're not, they need a way to understand what it means to feel afraid. Both of those things need to happen at the same time of like, you have to offer comfort to the children of the marginalized. You have to offer perspective to the children who have the privilege not to feel that fear. And so I have this story and what I love about this story is. I know that children are capable of holding the complexity of this story is both very romantic and very sweet, and also the circumstances it happened under were completely unfair. That's the kind of logic children are able to hold, and they should be given the opportunity to hold that kind of complexity because it'll serve them for the rest of their life because most of most situations we confront are complex. [00:51:57] Miko Lee: And how were you able to eke out more details of that story? Did you do family interviews or was it more from your imagination? [00:52:05] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: My mother is a journalist and she kept my grandmother's journals from the time she was in Minidoka. So some of it comes from my grandmother's journals. Some of it comes from working with my mother to make sure that it felt accurate, tonally and factually. ‘Cause she was not gonna let me publish a book that was nonsense. I always say it's Truman Capote true. ‘Cause the situation, the sensory details, all that stuff real, but the dialogue is made up. The dialogue is art. The dialogue is a way for children to understand how they might've been feeling. They never had succinct, quick conversations like this about their humanity and how they felt about each other. It was a long courting process, and so, you know. That part is made up for children, [00:52:49] Miko Lee: but you, but you did include actual quotes from her journal too, right? [00:52:53] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Yes. The book closes with her words, not mine. [00:52:57] Miko Lee: Can you give us those final words? [00:53:00] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: The miracle is in us as long as we believe in beauty, in change, in hope. Which are words she wrote while she was imprisoned in Minidoka. [00:53:11] Miko Lee: And how does that resonate with you in the time of now? [00:53:15] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: They are words that I desperately cling to in the hope that I can see them become manifest. [00:53:23] Miko Lee: And what are you working on now? [00:53:26] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Making Authors Against Book Bans as operational as possible. [00:53:31] Miko Lee: And what does that look like? [00:53:32] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: In late 2025, we became a nonprofit corporation. We have fiscal sponsorship under EveryLibrary, which is a really wonderful advocacy group that's a combination [501](c)3-(c)4, which means you can make tax deductible donations to them, but also they do overtly political work. And so now we can receive tax deductible, donations and continue to do the overtly political work that we do. We are an unapologetically political organization. We are more than happy to help get people elected who fight for the freedom to read, and we are delighted to show the door to people who would stand in our way of that freedom. [00:54:09] Miko Lee: And how can people get more involved in your work? [00:54:13] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: They could absolutely go to authorsagainstbookbans.com and make a donation. We need it [laughs]. We are one of the only organizations that receives donations that exists for the sole purpose of fighting book bans. Most every other group in our space have an angle that book bans affect them, and so they fight against them, but that's not their only purview. It is our only purview. So if it is something that you were interested in fighting, then you could make a donation to us. I would suggest signing up to be on the email list from EveryLibrary because they mobilize everybody, not just authors and book creators. And if you are a book creator, self-published, traditionally published, we don't care. Then you should sign up to be a member of Authors Against Book Bans and you'll get calls to action every Friday. [00:55:07] Miko Lee: Thank you so much for sharing with us about your book and educating us about the work you're doing and appreciate hearing from you. Thank you for joining us. [00:55:16] Maggie Tokuda-Hall: Thank you for having me. [00:55:28] Miko Lee: Please check out our website, kpfa.org/program/apexexpress to find out more about our show and our guests tonight. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating, and sharing your visions with the world because your voices are important. Apex Express is produced by Ayame Keane-Lee, Anuj Vaidya, Cheryl Truong, Isabel Li, Jalena Keane-Lee, Miko Lee, Miata Tan, Preti Mangala-Shekar and Swati Rayasam. Tonight's show was produced by me Miko Lee, and edited by Ayame Keane-Lee. Have a great night.. The post APEX Express – 4.9.26 – Library Joy appeared first on KPFA.
The Rutherford County Library System board has voted 8-3 to fire Director Luanne James following her refusal to comply with directives to relocate over 130 children's books. In this episode, we break down the latest updates in this Tennessee library censorship battle, exploring the legal implications of viewpoint discrimination and the fight for the First Amendment in public spaces. Plus, we pivot to hope with a roundup of diverse new releases for young readers that celebrate the very freedom to read currently under threat.New Releases:How a Bear Became a Book: The Collaboration That Created Winnie-the-Pooh by Annette Bay Pimentel, illus. by Faith Pray (Ages 4-8)Barbed Wire Between Us by Mia Wenjen, illus. by Violetta Encarnación (Ages 7-10)Wilderness Hacks by Joslin Borsen (Ages 8-12)Inbetweens by Faith Erin Hicks by (Ages 10-14)All That Chandi Knows by Kushboo Patel (Ages 10+)The Celestial Seas by T. A. Chan (Ages 12+)
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In this episode, Anthony dives deep into the world of children's literature, exploring the latest releases that young readers are excited about. We discuss the significant issue of book bans and how they are affecting communities, schools, and libraries. Additionally, Anthony covers recent legislation influencing educational content, providing vital information for librarians, educators, and parents alike. Stay tuned for an exclusive upcoming interview with Tui T. Sutherland, the renowned author of the Wings of Fire series, as we continue to celebrate middle grade and children's literature and its crucial role in young readers' lives.New Releases:The Heart of Our Home by Janelle Washington (Ages 3-6)The Queen's Granddaughter by Diane Zahler (Ages 8-12)Books Good Enough for You: The Storied Life of Ursula Nordstrom, Editor of Extraordinary Children's Books by Nancy Hudgins (Ages 10-14)The Blue Dress by Rebecca Morrison (Ages 10-14)Charmed and Dangerous by Shelly Page (Ages 12+)The Free Verse Society by Delali Adjoa (Ages 14+)
Danny Caine, author of "How to Resist Amazon and Why", "How to Protect Bookstores and Why", and the new "How to Defend Books and Why" is a writer, speaker, and former bookstore owner. This week on the podcast, join Danny, Elly, and Joe as they talk about the interplay of book bans and freedom movements the world over, how you can defend books, and the work and the conversations and interviews that shaped "How to Defend Books."Get Danny's books on the Microcosm website, or your local indie bookstore!https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/artist/danny-caineTo find out more about book bans and challenges, visit https://www.ala.org/bbooks************Thank you for catching the People's Guide to Publishing vlogcast! We post new episodes every Thursday about publishing, authors, and the book industry. You can also listen via your preferred podcast app, or by visiting linktree.com/microcosmGet the book: https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/books/3663Get the workbook: https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/zines/10031More from Microcosm: http://microcosmpublishing.comMore by Joe Biel: http://joebiel.netMore by Elly Blue: http://takingthelane.comSubscribe to our monthly email newsletter: http://eepurl.com/gIXT6vFind us on social media:Facebook: http://facebook.com/microcosmpublishingBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/microcosm.bsky.socialInstagram: http://instagram.com/microcosm_pub************
For the first time, Clatsop Community College in Astoria is offering a course on the spike in recent years of book bans and challenges. The 10-week course launches on March 30 and will explore the reasons why titles such as “The Bluest Eye,” “Looking for Alaska” and "The Perks of Being a Wallflower” are being targeted in school districts or public libraries. The course will also cover TV shows and movie adaptations of novels that have also been targeted to restrict their viewing in school classrooms and public libraries. The course is being taught by Kama O’Connor, a writing and English instructor at CCC who also writes romance novels under the pen name Kristine Lynn. O’Connor says whereas in previous years most book bans originated by individuals, the bans and challenges today are increasingly arising from religious and conservative organizations that are targeting works they find objectionable, including those with romantic themes or feature characters who are people of color or identify as LGBTQ+. O’Connor joins us for more details about the course and her personal motivations for teaching it.
In this week's episode of the Book Faire Podcast, Anthony dives into the latest new releases in children's literature, perfect for librarians, educators, and young readers alike. We explore the growing challenges around book bans and censorship issues currently impacting schools and communities across the US. Join us as we discuss the powerful role of children's literature in shaping young minds and fueling community activism against these restrictions. Whether you're a librarian, an educator, or a passionate advocate for young readers, this episode offers valuable insights into how stories can inspire change and the importance of standing up for diverse and inclusive books.New Releases:Songbird in the Light by Billy Porter and Chris Clarkson, illustrated by Charly Palmer (Ages 4-8)Red River Rose by Carole Lindstrom (Ages 8-11)Clementine H. Hopeful Is Not a Hero by Noah Corey (Ages 8-12)Olivia Gray Will Not Fade Away by Cierra Burch (Ages 8-12)One Word, Six Letters by Adib Khorram (Ages 12+)Prodigal Tiger by Samantha Chong (Ages 12+)
What's the difference between Young Adult and New Adult fiction? We explore the life stages, voice, and themes that define each genre, plus publishing news on AI copyright, contracts, and book bans.
Trump Book Ban Controversy: Native American History Removed from National Parks Yesterday Trump Book Ban Controversy: Native American History Removed from National Parks Donald Trump is facing growing backlash after reports that books about Native American history have been flagged for removal from visitor centers at Redwood National and State Parks. Critics say the move raises serious questions about censorship, historical revisionism, and whether political power is being used to reshape how Americans understand their own past. On today's episode of The Karel Show, Karel examines the controversy surrounding the reported book bans and what it could mean for the future of historical education in the United States. According to reports, several books focusing on Native American history and culture have been flagged inside park visitor centers. The books include titles such as “We Are the Land” by Damon B. Atkins and William J. Bauer, “California Through Native Eyes” by William J. Bauer Jr., “Adopted by Indians” by Thomas Jefferson Mayfield, and “We Are Dancing for You” by Cutcha Risling Baldy. Supporters of the books say they help visitors understand the deep and complex history of Indigenous tribes in California. Critics of the reported removals argue that removing these works risks erasing uncomfortable truths about how Native Americans were treated throughout U.S. history. But that's not the only controversy dominating the headlines. Trump has also drawn criticism after comments about housing and development in the Pacific Palisades, raising concerns about whether low-income housing could be excluded from future rebuilding efforts. Meanwhile, global tensions continue to rise as war escalates overseas and Americans increasingly question the direction of U.S. leadership. So the larger question becomes: Can political power rewrite history—and who decides what future generations are allowed to learn? On today's episode, Karel dives into the politics of censorship, the battle over historical truth, and why these debates are becoming central to the American culture war. ⸻ The Karel Show is independent political commentary from broadcaster Charles Karel Bouley II, delivering bold analysis on politics, culture, and global events. New episodes stream Monday–Thursday at 10:30 AM PST. Support the show: patreon.com/reallykarel Subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/reallykarel The Karel Show is also available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, and Spreaker. Karel broadcasts from Las Vegas with his Parson's Terrier Ember (#EmberDoes_Vegas). #Trump, #BookBan, #BookBans, #NativeAmericanHistory, #IndigenousHistory, #RedwoodNationalPark, #USPolitics, #PoliticalCommentary, #FreeSpeech, #Censorship, #AmericanHistory, #CultureWars, #HistoricalTruth, #NativeAmerican, #IndigenousRights, #BreakingNews, #PoliticalAnalysis, #NewsCommentary, #CurrentEvents, #HousingPolicy, #PacificPalisades, #USNews, #PoliticsToday, #IndependentMedia, #PoliticalPodcast, #Podcast, #TheKarelShow, #USGovernment, #HistoryMatters, #EmberDoes_Vegas https://youtube.com/live/4oT90hipJRU
Read anything and everything—picture books, memoirs, poetry, novellas or dense, but fascinating history. Cheryl's Books: Rumpelstiltskin retold by Mac Barnett and Illustrated by Carson EllisThe Company of Owls: A Memoir by Polly AtkinNight Flyer: Harriet Tubman and the Faith Dreams of a Free People by Tiya MilesEvery Valley: The Desperate Lives and Troubled Times That Made Handel's Messiah by Charles KingMentioned: Extra Yarn by Mac BarnettAll That She Carried: The Journey of Ashley's Sack, a Black Family Keepsake by Tiya MilesWild Girls: How the Outdoors Shaped the Women Who Challenged a Nation by Tiya Miles (Jessica discussed in Episode 3)Gods of the Upper Air: How a Circle of Renegade Anthropologists Reinvented Race, Sex, and Gender in the Twentieth Century by Charles King Jessica's Books: Every Heart a Doorway by Seanan McGuire (Wayward Children series)Through Gates of Garnet and Gold by Seanan McGuire (Bk 11)The Flower Bearers by Rachel Eliza GriffithsDanger to the Minds of Young Girls: Margaret C. Anderson, Book Bans, and the Fight to Modernize Literature by Adam MorganCustodians of Wonder: Ancient Customs, Profound Traditions, and the Last People Keeping Them Alive by Eliot SteinMentioned: Knife: Meditations After an Attempted Murder by Salman RushdieSquare Haunting: Five Writers in London Between the Wars by Francesca Wade (Cheryl discussed in Episode 25)Go Tell the Bees that I am Gone by Diana Gabaldon Mari's Books: Words with Wings and Magic Things by Matthew BurgessThe Dream Builder's Blueprint: Dr. King's Message to Young People by Alice Faye DuncanA Year Without Home by V.T. BidaniaMentioned:Shel Silverstein PoetryDoug Salati BooksThe Astrid and Apollo series by V.T. BidaniaThe Extraordinary Eliana series by V.T. Bidania He Should Have Told the Bees by Amanda Cox
This post contains affiliate links, which means I may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you.What happens when book bans aren't just headlines — but federal law?In this episode, I'm chatting with historical fiction author Shelley Noble about The Sisters of Book Row, a novel set in 1915 New York during the height of the Comstock censorship laws. We talk about rare bookstores, banned poetry, Margaret Sanger, and why 100-year-old history feels… uncomfortably familiar today. If you care about protecting books, women's voices, and literary legacy — this one will stay with you.We also dive into Shelley's unexpected path to publishing (spoiler: it started with a dare), why she left mysteries for historical women's fiction, and her favorite historical mystery comfort reads.⏱️ Timestamps[00:00] Shelley's journey from dancer to published mystery author[03:00] Writing historical mysteries vs. women's fiction[06:30] Discovering the Tiffany Girls & shifting genres[07:45] The Comstock Laws explained[09:30] Margaret Sanger and censorship in 1915[11:00] The Sisters of Book Row premise[14:30] Book banning today vs. 1915[18:30] Research process & using primary sources[22:00] Historical mystery & romantic suspense recommendations
On this week's episode of the Book Faire Podcast, Anthony delves into the critical issues surrounding book bans and politics affecting children's literature and education. We highlight the latest diverse children's books and YA novels that are making waves among young readers. Tune in as we discuss a new national book banning law targeting schools and explore how local communities are mobilizing to defend the freedom to read, countering efforts by chapters like Moms for Liberty. This episode is essential listening for librarians, educators, and anyone passionate about protecting access to diverse literature for young readers.New Releases:Loops by Jashar Awan (Ages 4-8)The Unlikely Tale of Chase and Finnegan by Jasmine WargaDragon Girl and the Awakened Flames by Jenny Moore (Ages 8-13)Red Stones: A Graphic Account of the Salvadoran Civil War by Ernesto Sasde (Ages 14+)Estela, Undrowning by René Peña-Govea (Ages 14+)
Since Donald Trump's return to the White House, the US has seen a significant increase in book censorship. According to PEN America, more than 6,800 book bans have been recorded, with works by Stephen King now topping the list. He holds the unwanted title of the most banned author in the United States. In Texas, public school libraries have become the front line of an unprecedented political battle over free speech. FRANCE 24's Pierrick Leurent and Valérie Defert report.
In this episode of the Book Faire Podcast, Anthony explores the latest in children's literature, spotlighting new releases including indigenous debut author Christopher Roubique and a heartfelt picture book about the diverse life in a garden. We also delve into pressing education policy issues such as book bans and controversies surrounding school boards' decisions on high school reading lists. Librarians and educators will find valuable discussions on how these developments impact public libraries and access to quality literature for young readers. Stay tuned to learn more about the evolving landscape of children's literature and its challenges.New Releases:The Weedy Garden: A Happy Habitat for Wild Friends by Margaret Renkl, illustrated by Billy Renkl (Ages 4-8)Hail Mariam by Huda Al-Marashi (Ages 8-12)Mythspeaker by Christopher Roubique (Ages 8-12)Limelight by Andrew Keenen Bolger (Ages 12+)The Twelve by Joey Graceffa, with Mackenzie Lyn Marr (Ages 13+)Chapters00:00 Introduction to New Book Releases and Upcoming Interview10:41 Impact of US State Department's new passport processing rules on libraries14:32 School board decisions on curriculum and the importance of contemporary fiction17:50 Funding delays in Arkansas libraries and their implications19:42 Community response to curriculum and book selection in Pennsylvania
In this episode of the Book Faire Podcast, Anthony explores the latest in middle grade and children's literature, highlighting new book releases that delve into themes of cultural identity, grief, and historical narratives. The discussion extends to the critical issues of censorship and book bans in schools, focusing on inspiring student activism and librarian efforts to combat these challenges. Listeners will also learn about the Library of Congress's upcoming interactive learning space designed specifically for young readers. This episode is an essential listen for librarians, educators, and anyone passionate about supporting diverse children's literature and advocating against censorship in schools.New Releases:If This Were the World Stephen Barr, illus. by AG Ford (Ages 4-8)Each and Every Spark by Claire Swinarski (Ages 8-12)Goodbye, French Fry by Rin-rin Yu (Ages 8-12)Birdy by N. West Moss, with illustrations by Carrie Shyrock (Ages 10-14Postscript by Cory McCarthy (Ages 14+)
The last few years have seen lots of books removed from schools, libraries and bookstores. Last fall, Alberta scaled back its proposed book ban after public pushback, and in the U.S., thousands of books have been removed from schools and dropped from curriculums. Kudakwashe Rutendo and Mirian Njoh weigh in on the topic and discuss influential challenged titles from their own lives. Plus, get to know author Madeleine Thien through the Proust Questionnaire.Books discussed on this week's show include:Between Shades of Gray by Ruta SepetysThe Perks of Being a Wallflower by Steven ChboskyThe Book of Records by Madelein Thein
An upcoming vote may see the Rutherford County [LT1] library board and library staff at odds. Plus the local news for February 11, 2026 and this week's edition of What Where Whens-day. Credits: This is a production of Nashville Public RadioHost/producer: Nina CardonaEditor: LaTonya TurnerAdditional support: Mack Linebaugh, Tony Gonzalez, Megan Jones and the staff of WPLN and WNXP [LT1]seems important to say "Rutherford County library board..." so people don't think it's NPL
Tennessee ranks third in the nation in book banning — and it's already happening in Rutherford County, right next door. Could it happen in Nashville? Christina Soontornvat, an award-winning children's book author who also leads the Tennessee chapter of Authors Against Book Bans, joins host Marie Cecile Anderson to explain what's happening, why current state legislation is complicating matters, and how parents and community members are responding. Get more from City Cast Nashville when you become a City Cast Nashville Neighbor. You'll enjoy perks like ad-free listening, invitations to members only events and more. Join now at membership.citycast.fm/nashville Want some more City Cast Nashville news? Then make sure to sign up for our Hey Nashville newsletter. Follow us @citycastnashville You can also text us or leave a voicemail at: 615-200-6392 Interested in advertising with City Cast? Find more info HERE.
Americans are being offered a false choice: safety or rights, as though “law and order” means obedience from citizens and exceptions for the government. Sharon's take on ICE violating 96 court orders in Minnesota in just one month. Plus, Jodi Picoult is one of the most banned authors in the country. Why? She writes about racism, gun violence, and LGBTQ+ rights, encouraging young people to use their critical thinking, rather than becoming permission seekers. She shares how to fight back against book bans, and why we need to be louder than the vocal minority. And Former Congressman Adam Kinzinger joins Sharon to talk about the future of the Republic Party, why nobody has gotten in trouble over the Epstein files, and how you can stay engaged without burning out. If you'd like to submit a question, head to thepreamble.com/podcast – we'd love to hear from you there. And be sure to read our weekly magazine at ThePreamble.com – it's free! Join hundreds of thousands of readers who still believe understanding is an act of hope. Credits: Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks Audio Producer: Craig Thompson (00:00:00) If Court Orders Don't Matter, Nothing Does (00:07:14) Book Bans with Jodi Picoult (00:23:51) How to Find Hope with Adam Kinzinger To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
In this episode of Selective Ignorance, Mandii B is joined by super producer A-King, journalist Jayson Rodriguez, and Jason “Jah” Lee for a wide-ranging, culture-forward conversation that blends humor, critique, and social commentary. The episode opens with reflections on a recent winter storm and the collective panic it caused, including questionable food preparation decisions and general storm-time ignorance [00:00–05:05]. From there, the discussion pivots into the evolving creator economy, unpacking what true ownership looks like through the lens of Kevin Hart’s licensing deal and Kavi Lamay’s groundbreaking AI digital twin, raising the question of whether everyone — and everything — is ultimately for sale [26:32]. The energy shifts as the crew dives into the lucrative and often-overlooked power of advertising jingles, sparked by a viral Dr. Pepper jingle that earned its creator a major payout, leading into a hilarious, improvised jingle-creation challenge that showcases the hosts’ chemistry and creativity [41:11–42:41], while also examining the fine line between catchy marketing and provocative advertising [47:22]. Balancing the fun with heavier topics, the conversation turns toward literacy and media access in prisons and why storytelling and education still matter behind bars [52:44], followed by a nuanced breakdown of Kanye West’s recent apology and how public perception, accountability, and redemption play out in real time [58:03]. The episode closes with a candid discussion on relationship dynamics, centered around Cam’ron and his ex, exploring communication, ego, and emotional maturity in modern relationships [01:11:39]. Altogether, the episode captures Selective Ignorance at its best — blending sharp humor, cultural critique, and thoughtful dialogue about ownership, media, and accountability in today’s attention economy. No Holes Barred: A Dual Manifesto Of Sexual Exploration And Power” w/ Tempest X! Sale Link Follow the host on Social MediaMandii B Instagram/X @fullcourtpumps Follow the crew on Social Media @itsaking @jaysonrodriguez @mrhiphopobama Follow the show on Social MediaInstagram @selectiveignorancepodTiktok @selective.ignoranceX/Twitter @selectiveig_podSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Then, we transition to a panel led by Susan Stuart Clark featuring library directors Jayanti Addleman (Hayward) and Derek Wolfgram (Redwood City). They share on-the-ground stories of how their institutions transformed overnight—from providing hotspots and homework centers to becoming de facto daytime shelters for unhoused neighbors. This episode highlights the resilience of library staff, the mental health crisis, and the lasting impact of the digital divide.Key Topics & Takeaways[00:03:40] Origins of “Free for All”: How the filmmakers realized librarians are "first responders" during Hurricane Katrina, aiding evacuees when other systems failed.[00:10:45] The RV Tour Idea: Innovative distribution plans to project the documentary in library parking lots to maintain community during social distancing.[00:15:00] Hayward's Pivot: How Hayward Public Library immediately extended loan periods to one year and distributed hotspots to support students and immigrant families.[00:18:20] Redwood City Online: The surprise benefit of online programming, which increased accessibility for people with disabilities and transportation barriers.[00:21:00] Basic Needs & Hygiene: Libraries stepping up to provide portable toilets and handwashing stations for unhoused populations when public spaces closed.[00:30:00] The Heartbreak of Success: A story about a patron who found housing but was devastated to lose his daily connection to the Redwood City Library community.[00:50:00] The Future of Funding: The unprecedented opportunity of ARPA stimulus funds going directly to cities to help rebuild local services.Guests & HostGeorge Koster – Host and Executive Producer of Voices of the Community.Eric Estrada – Associate Producer and Host.Dawn Logsdon & Lucie Faulknor – Co-Founders of Serendipity Films and creators of the documentary Free for All.Susan Stuart Clark – Founder of Common Knowledge and community engagement expert.Jayanti Addleman – Director of Library Services for the City of Hayward.Derek Wolfgram – Library Director of Redwood City Public Library.Resources & Links MentionedFree for All Documentary: Learn more about the film at FreeForAllFilms.org.Voices of the Community Episode 10: Listen to the full interview with the filmmakers here: https://georgekoster.com/voc-free-for-allVoices of the Community Library Panel: Listen to the full panel discussion with Susan, Jayanti, and Derek here: https://georgekoster.com/voc-stories-common-knowledge-library-panelLearn More about our Guests & Series Listen to the full conversations: Dive deeper into these stories by listening to the complete interviews in Episode 10 and the Library Panel Episode.Explore the Series: Check out the full COVID-19 Special SeriesSupport the Show: Please consider making a tax-deductible donation to help us continue producing these stories. Click the donate button at voicesofthecommunity.comSignup for our Newsletter to stay in the loop on future shows and live eventsMake a Donation: Support Voices of the Community, fiscally sponsored by Intersection for the Arts, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, and enjoy tax deductions for your contributions. Credits & AcknowledgmentsProduced by: George Koster and Alien Boy ProductionsAssociate Producer, Audio & Video: Eric EstradaVisual Design: Casey Nance of Citron StudioBroadcast Partners: KSFP-LP 102.5 FM (San Francisco) and KPCA-LP 103.3 FM (Petaluma)Special Thanks: BAVC Media for the initial collaboration on the SF Non-Profit Spotlight.TranscriptFull transcripts and video episodes are available on our website and YouTube channel.Website:https://georgekoster.com/voc-c19-highlight-show-part-4-libraries-transcriptYouTube: George Koster Delve deeper into the Voices of the Community Series on Arts & Culture, Making the Invisible Visible, Covid-19's impact on nonprofits, small enterprises and local government, the City of Stockton's rise from the ashes of bankruptcy, and our archives:You can explore episodes, speakers, organizations, and resources through each series web page. Watch and learn from all five series now!,
Adam Morgan discusses his new biography, A Danger to the Minds of Young Girls: Margaret C. Anderson, Book Bans, and the Fight to Modernize Literature (Atria/One Signal Publishers, 2025). Morgan's book is the first biography solely devoted to Margaret C. Anderson, the founder of the avant-garde literary and arts magazine The Little Review, which she began publishing in Chicago in 1914. The influential Little Review showcased many famous writers of its time, including T.S. Eliot, Gertrude Stein, Hart Crane, Sherwood Anderson and Hemingway. But it would become most celebrated—and notorious—for being the first publisher of James Joyce's towering modernist novel Ulysses. After putting out nearly two thirds of the novel in serial installments from 1918 through 1920, Margaret Anderson and her romantic partner and co-editor Jane Heap were charged and found guilty of obscenity under the Comstock Act for distributing Joyce's sexually frank passages through the mail. They were deemed "a danger to the minds of young girls." A Danger to the Minds of Young Girls tells a very compelling story of an iconoclastic woman who was determined to make a space for difficult and challenging art and whose efforts changed forever what could be addressed in literature and what could be considered beautiful. Adam Morgan is himself the founder of the indispensable Chicago Review of Books, and a great promoter of the literature of our city. We are especially thrilled to be having this conversation now, as we just began a six-month discussion group on Ulysses at our library. Listen to hear why Ulysses wouldn't exist without Chicago and how understanding Anderson's life helps reveal the true stakes, triumphs, and world-changing "dangers" of James Joyce's masterpiece. Adam Morgan is a culture journalist and critic who lives near Chapel Hill, North Carolina. His writing has appeared in Esquire, WIRED, Scientific American, Inverse, The Paris Review, Los Angeles Times, and elsewhere. He writes a newsletter about forthcoming books called The Frontlist. He is the founding editor of the Chicago Review of Books, the Southern Review of Books, and the Chicago Literary Archive. You can check out A Danger to the Minds of Young Girls in our Podcast Collection, featuring books and other materials by past guests of the show. Find out more about Adam Morgan at his website. We hope you enjoy our 70th interview episode! Each month (or so), we release an episode featuring a conversation with an author, artist, or other notable guests from Chicagoland or around the world. Learn more about the podcast on our podcast page. You can listen to all of our episodes in the player below or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen to podcasts. We welcome your comments and feedback—please send to podcast@deerfieldlibrary.org.
There have been nearly 23,000 book bans in public schools nationwide since 2021. Librarians are fighting censorship and standing for the right to read.
Culture journalist and critic Adam Morgan joins us to discuss A Danger to the Minds of Young Girls: Margaret C. Anderson, Book Bans, and the Fight to Modernize Literature (One Signal, Dec. 9, 2025), which Kirkus calls “a lively biography of a bold woman.” Then our editors recommend their top picks in books for the week.THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS:One Ordinary Man: A Novel Based on the True Story of Harry Hopkins by Steve VesceThe Real Conversation Jesus Wants Us To Have by Regina V. CatesSammy Goes to the Doctor by Brittany Feria, illus. by Wandson RochaThe Angry Skies by Blake KerrOn Earth As It Is in Heaven by Joseph HawkeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Send us a textFrom AfroBets to We Rise, We Resist, We Raise Our Voices to a brand-new picture book that sings with history, legendary author and publisher Cheryl Willis Hudson has helped shape what children can see (and become) through books. If you care about diverse children's books, freedom to read, and the cultural power of music, this episode is for you.Dr. Diane Jackson Schnoor welcomes Cheryl Willis Hudson, co-founder of the groundbreaking children's publishing house Just Us Books. Cheryl shares why she and husband Wade Hudson created Just Us Books, and what it's meant to write and publish stories that serve as windows, mirrors, and sliding glass doors for children.Cheryl reflects on growing up in the Jim Crow South and how the lack of accurate representation in children's literature shaped her mission to publish books that affirm Black childhood, celebrate multicultural experiences, and expand the canon of children's books. The conversation also addresses book bans and censorship, including how books are challenged by small groups who often haven't read the full text -- and why that's an urgent threat to freedom of expression and access to stories.In a moving highlight, Cheryl introduces her “dream book,” When I Hear Spirituals, and shares how spirituals carry history, resilience, and joy while shaping American music itself. She even sings a portion of “Over My Head,” offering listeners a moment that feels like story, song, and legacy braided together.Chapters:01:00 Cheryl Willis Hudson + Just Us Books origin story08:08 Growing up in Jim Crow South + why representation matters13:49 Book challenges, lists, and censorship ripple effects20:01 Reading from We Rise, We Resist…30:13 When I Hear Spirituals + history of spirituals
This week, I talk with Amanda Jones, a dedicated small-town Louisiana librarian, about the challenges she faces in her fight against book banning and censorship. She discusses her passion for literature, the importance of representation in books, the defamatory posts about her that spread like wildfire, and the impact of misinformation on community perceptions. Amanda has always championed the importance of diverse literature and the role of libraries as safe spaces for all children, particularly those from marginalized communities.Read all about Amanda's journey in her book That Librarian: The Fight Against Book Banning in America Check Out Author Social Media PackagesCheck out the Bookwild Community on PatreonCheck Out My Stories Are My Religion SubstackGet Bookwild MerchFollow @imbookwild on InstagramOther Co-hosts On Instagram:Gare Billings @gareindeedreadsSteph Lauer @books.in.badgerlandHalley Sutton @halleysutton25Brian Watson @readingwithbrianMacKenzie Green @missusa2mba
[REBROADCAST FROM Oct 3, 2025] Director Kim A. Snyder discusses her new documentary called "The Librarians," which explores the role of libraries and the people who run them in today's politically fraught atmosphere. Focusing on librarians in Texas, responding to efforts to ban books about race and the LGBTQIA+ experience, the film illuminates a key angle in the conflict over access to information and art, and library patrons' so-called 'freedom to read.' Plus, New Jersey librarian Martha Hickson, who is featured in the film, shares her experiences and insights.
In this episode of the Book Faire Podcast, we explore the world of kidlit with author Shannon Messenger as she discusses her journey writing the beloved Keeper of the Lost Cities series and its graphic novel adaptation. Shannon shares valuable insights into her creative process, the challenges debut authors face in the children's literature publishing industry, and the vital role of reader engagement in building a successful career. We also delve into current publishing news, including the impact of book bans and emerging technology, emphasizing the importance of inclusivity and accessibility in children's literature. Librarians, educators, and young readers alike will find inspiration and important discussions about the future of kidlit in this enlightening conversation.New Releases:The Language of Birds by Jon-Erik Lappano, illus. by Zach ManbeckThe Snowman Code by Simon Stephenson, illus. by Reggie BrownThe Uninvited by Nancy BanksChapters00:00 Introduction01:01 Exploring the Keeper of the Lost Cities02:48 The Writing Process and Character Development05:51 The Journey of Publishing and Reader Engagement09:00 Graphic Novel Adaptation Insights12:04 Artistic Collaboration in Graphic Novels15:03 Future Plans and Final Thoughts16:13 Book Bans and Emerging Technology in Publishing
There have been 23,000 book bans in public schools since 2021, according to PEN America. Authors discuss this surge in censorship and the fight for the right to read.
For people in prison, books can be more than a pastime - they can be a lifeline to the outside world. However, new restrictions all across the country are cutting off that necessary connection. KCSB's Juliana Chandler has the story.
One of the things small town librarian Amanda Jones values most about books is how they can affirm a young person's sense of self. So in 2022, when she caught wind of a local public hearing that would discuss “book content,” she knew what was at stake. Schools and libraries nationwide have been bombarded by demands for books with LGTBQ+ references, discussions of racism, and more to be purged from the shelves. Amanda would be damned if her community were to ban stories representing minority groups. She spoke out that night at the meeting. Days later, she woke up to a nightmare that is still ongoing. Amanda Jones has been called a groomer, a pedo, and a porn-pusher; she has faced death threats and attacks from strangers and friends alike. Her decision to support a collection of books with diverse perspectives made her a target for extremists using book banning campaigns-funded by dark money organizations and advanced by hard right politicians-in a crusade to make America more white, straight, and "Christian." But Amanda Jones wouldn't give up without a fight: she sued her harassers for defamation and urged others to join her in the resistance. The discussion delves into Amanda's story of growing up in Watson, Louisiana, her passion for literature and libraries, and the extreme harassment she faced after speaking out against book banning efforts in 2022. Amanda shares her journey, including filing a defamation lawsuit, the community's reaction, and the broader implications of book banning as a political tool. They also discuss practical steps for combatting censorship and supporting libraries.https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/that-librarian-9781639733545/ Subscribe for $5.99 a month to get bonus content most Mondays, bonus episodes every month, ad-free listening, access to the entire 850-episode archive, Discord access, and more: https://axismundi.supercast.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/StraightWhiteJC Order Brad's book: https://bookshop.org/a/95982/9781506482163 Subscribe to Teología Sin Vergüenza Subscribe to American Exceptionalism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Today on AOTA Shorts: We've talked a lot about the potential costs to school systems (and taxpayers, of course) for the madness of book bans and laws allowing the challenging of “woke” content in schools. But a story out of a small district in Colorado offers, perhaps, new hope in the equation. Give em a dose of their own medicine. Elizabeth School District is facing a lawsuit from the ALCU and families challenging their ban on books featuring LGBTQ characters and written by authors of color. As the insanity of anti-wokeness continues to plague the nation, the pathway to bury these districts and officials in lawsuits, legal fees, and paperwork grows, if unintentionally. You want to violate the first amendment, academic freedom, and engage in unconstitutional censorship? OK, we'll see you in court. Manuel and Jeff discuss!Woah, new format! AOTA Shorts give a brief, quick-hitting breakdown of a single story in this increasingly wild world of education that you can enjoy in the car, at work, or in those precious minutes of down time you (maybe) get during your busy day. Let us know what you think in the comments!MAXIMUM WOKENESS ALERT -- get your All of the Above swag, including your own “Teach the Truth” shirt! In this moment of relentless attacks on teaching truth in the classroom, we got you covered. https://all-of-the-above-store.creator-spring.com Watch, listen and subscribe to make sure you don't miss our latest content!Listen on Apple Podcast and Spotify Website: https://AOTAshow.comStream all of our content at: linktr.ee/AOTA Watch at: YouTube.com/AlloftheAboveFollow us at: Facebook.com/AOTAshow, Twitter.com/AOTAshow, LinkedIn
Andrew Zwicker, New Jersey State Senator (D, District 16), and Dawn Fantasia, New Jersey Assembly Member (R, District 24), debate the hot-button issues in education and how they are playing out in the governor's race, including parents' rights, book bans and more.
I want to hear your thoughts about the show and this episode. Text us here...What if the stories you loved as a kid were quietly rewriting the rules for an entire generation? In this episode, Julie sits down with Rachelle Bergstein, bestselling author of The Genius of Judy: How Judy Blume Rewrote Childhood for All of Us. Together, they unpack how Judy Blume became an accidental feminist icon, why women's interests are often dismissed as trivial, and how stories can shape culture and confidence for decades.You'll hear about: • The through-line between fashion, femininity, and feminism in Rachelle's work • Judy Blume's bold move from children's books to the provocative Wifey • Why book bans are resurging — and why they matter more than ever • How storytelling becomes activism • How to write bravely in a divided world
It's Banned Books Week. Honorary youth chair Iris Mogul and Sam Helmick, president of the American Library Association, talk about what it is, why it matters so much, and how you can get involved.Visit theallusionist.org/bannedbooks for more information and many links about today's topics, plus a transcript of the episode.Support the show at theallusionist.org/donate and as well as keeping this independent podcast going, you also get behind-the-scenes info about every episode; livestreams with me, Martin and my ever-growing collection of dictionaries, and the charming and nurturing Allusioverse Discord community, where we're watching the current season Great British Bake Off - donors also get a weekly work of flanfic about the show.This episode was produced by me, Helen Zaltzman. Thanks to Thanks to Charisse Barnachea, and to Liv for the Judy Blume books circa 1989. Martin Austwick sings and composed the music. Download his own songs at palebirdmusic.com and on Bandcamp, and listen to his podcasts Song By Song and Neutrino Watch.Find the Allusionist at youtube.com/allusionistshow, instagram.com/allusionistshow, facebook.com/allusionistshow, @allusionistshow.bsky.social… If I'm there, I'm there as @allusionistshow. Our ad partner is Multitude. If you want me to talk compellingly about your product, sponsor an episode: contact Multitude at multitude.productions/ads. This episode is sponsored by:• Squarespace, your one-stop shop for building and running your online forever home. Go to squarespace.com/allusionist for a free trial, and get 10 percent off your first purchase of a website or domain with the code allusionist.• Home Chef, meal kits that fit your needs. For a limited time, Home Chef is offering Allusionist listeners fifty per cent off and free shipping on your first box, plus free dessert for life, at HomeChef.com/allusionist.• Rosetta Stone, immersive and effective language learning. Allusionist listeners get 50% off unlimited access to all 25 language courses, for life: go to rosettastone.com/allusionist.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Director Kim A. Snyder discusses her new documentary called "The Librarians," which explores the role of libraries and the people who run them in today's politically fraught atmosphere. Focusing on librarians in Texas, responding to efforts to ban books about race and the LGBTQIA+ experience, the film illuminates a key angle in the conflict over access to information and art, and library patrons' so-called 'freedom to read.' Plus, New Jersey librarian Martha Hickson, who is featured in the film, shares her experiences and insights.
Jimmy Kimmel's late-night show has been pulled off the air following his comments about Charlie Kirk's killer. On this week's On the Media, how threats to free speech have escalated in the wake of the assassination. Plus, a school librarian in Louisiana shares how she's been targeted by book-banning activists.[02:25] Host Micah Loewinger sits down with Lily Mason, professor of political science at Johns Hopkins and the co-author of the book Radical American Partisanship: Mapping Violent Hostility, to discuss what data we have on how Americans think about political violence. [21:07] Micah speaks with Ryan Broderick, author of the Garbage Day newsletter, to examine the evidence around Charlie Kirk's alleged killer, and what radicalization looks like in a digital age. [35:45] Host Brooke Gladstone talks with Amanda Jones, school librarian in Livingston Parish, Louisiana and former School Librarian of the Year, to discuss being a target of book-banning activists. Plus, why protecting libraries is as crucial as ever. Further reading / listening:Radical American Partisanship: Mapping Violent Hostility, Its Causes, and the Consequences for Democracy, by Lily Mason“Charlie Kirk was killed by a meme,” by Ryan BroderickThat Librarian: The Fight Against Book Banning in America, by Amanda Jones On the Media is supported by listeners like you. Support OTM by donating today (https://pledge.wnyc.org/support/otm). Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @onthemedia, and share your thoughts with us by emailing onthemedia@wnyc.org.
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How does American society uphold the First Amendment while restricting books and censoring diverse ideas? Sharon talks with Suzanne Nossel, CEO of PEN America, about the surge in book bans, now over 4,000 nationwide. Suzanne explains how vague language about “protecting children” is used to remove books that reflect marginalized voices, often labeling them as “indecent” without justification. The result is classic literature and health-related content being removed from the shelves. Credits: Host and Executive Producer: Sharon McMahon Supervising Producer: Melanie Buck Parks Audio Producer: Craig Thompson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices