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Good morning from Pharma Daily: the podcast that brings you the most important developments in the pharmaceutical and biotech world. Today, we delve into a series of significant updates that are shaping the future of healthcare, patient care, and drug development.The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has been particularly active recently, granting Johnson & Johnson a National Priority Review Voucher for its multiple myeloma drug combination. This move highlights the importance of J&J's treatment in addressing unmet needs within oncology, a field continuously striving for innovative solutions. These vouchers expedite the review process, reflecting a broader commitment to accelerating the availability of critical therapies for patients who need them most.Continuing with regulatory advancements, AstraZeneca and Daiichi Sankyo's Enhertu, in combination with Roche's Perjeta, has gained FDA approval as a first-line treatment for unresectable or metastatic HER2-positive breast cancer. This breakthrough is supported by late-stage study results demonstrating a 44% reduction in disease progression or death compared to standard care. The approval signifies not only progress in breast cancer therapeutics but also underscores the potential benefits of strategic collaborations in drug development. Such partnerships are increasingly vital as they aim to optimize therapeutic efficacy through shared expertise and resources.In contrast to these advancements, Pfizer is facing financial recalibrations with projected revenues for 2026 estimated to decline due to diminishing COVID-19 vaccine sales and patent expirations. This situation reflects broader industry challenges as companies navigate post-pandemic market dynamics and patent cliffs, forcing reevaluations of long-term strategies.On another front, Gilead Sciences continues to push boundaries in HIV treatment with a promising single-tablet regimen combining bictegravir and lenacapavir. This innovation targets underserved segments within the HIV market, offering streamlined treatment options that could enhance patient adherence and outcomes significantly.Shifting focus to obesity management, Novo Nordisk's oral semaglutide is emerging as a highly anticipated medication among primary care providers. This trend highlights a growing preference for oral GLP-1 therapies as convenient alternatives to injectable formulations, marking a shift in how obesity—a major public health concern—is managed.The importance of regulatory compliance remains evident as Novo Nordisk received an FDA warning letter concerning manufacturing issues at an Indiana site previously owned by Catalent. This incident underscores the necessity for rigorous quality control in pharmaceutical manufacturing, which can have far-reaching implications on operational dynamics and supply chains.The FDA is also pioneering efforts to incorporate real-world evidence into medical device submissions by opening pathways for extensive deidentified datasets from sources like national cancer registries and electronic health records. This policy shift aims to integrate diverse data sources into the evidentiary foundation for medical device evaluations, potentially fostering innovation within this sector.In line with collaborative efforts, Genentech has partnered with Caris Life Sciences in a multi-year agreement valued at up to $1.1 billion, emphasizing the strategic importance of integrating diagnostic advancements with therapeutic developments to achieve precision medicine goals.Meanwhile, Yarrow Bioscience has acquired an autoimmune thyroid disease drug from China's Gensci, exemplifying a growing trend of cross-border collaborations aimed at leveraging global innovation ecosystems to address diverse therapeutic areas. This acquisition is part of a $1.37 billion deal, reinforcing the globalization of biotech partnerships as companies seek access to novel therapeutics andSupport the show

In this episode, Stephen Sukumaran, Director of the Long Acting Injectable (LAI) Program at Callen-Lorde Community Health Center, explains how his team streamlined insurance navigation, documentation, and care coordination by optimizing Electronic Health Record (EHR) workflows, leading to major improvements in patient access, efficiency, and long acting injectable HIV Pre-exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP) uptake.This episode is sponsored by Gilead Sciences.

Join us for a December program and celebration featuring youth speakers from San Francisco's LYRIC Center for LGBTQQ+ Youth. These young people will speak about today's important social issues affecting their lives. After the program, stick around for an appreciation reception with food and beverages. The Commonwealth Club thanks Gilead Sciences, Inc. for its generous support of The Michelle Meow Show.  See more  Michelle Meow Show programs at Commonwealth Club World Affairs of California.   This program contains EXPLICIT language.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/MOC/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/UAD865. CME/MOC/AAPA credit will be available until November 20, 2026.Harnessing the Power of ADCs in Gynecologic Cancers: Expert Insights for Practice Integration In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis activity is supported by independent educational grants from AstraZeneca, Daiichi Sankyo, Inc., and Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/MOC/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/UAD865. CME/MOC/AAPA credit will be available until November 20, 2026.Harnessing the Power of ADCs in Gynecologic Cancers: Expert Insights for Practice Integration In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis activity is supported by independent educational grants from AstraZeneca, Daiichi Sankyo, Inc., and Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/MOC/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/UAD865. CME/MOC/AAPA credit will be available until November 20, 2026.Harnessing the Power of ADCs in Gynecologic Cancers: Expert Insights for Practice Integration In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis activity is supported by independent educational grants from AstraZeneca, Daiichi Sankyo, Inc., and Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/MOC/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/UAD865. CME/MOC/AAPA credit will be available until November 20, 2026.Harnessing the Power of ADCs in Gynecologic Cancers: Expert Insights for Practice Integration In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis activity is supported by independent educational grants from AstraZeneca, Daiichi Sankyo, Inc., and Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/MOC/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/UAD865. CME/MOC/AAPA credit will be available until November 20, 2026.Harnessing the Power of ADCs in Gynecologic Cancers: Expert Insights for Practice Integration In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis activity is supported by independent educational grants from AstraZeneca, Daiichi Sankyo, Inc., and Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/MOC/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/UAD865. CME/MOC/AAPA credit will be available until November 20, 2026.Harnessing the Power of ADCs in Gynecologic Cancers: Expert Insights for Practice Integration In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis activity is supported by independent educational grants from AstraZeneca, Daiichi Sankyo, Inc., and Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

Authors Drs. Jessica Ross and Alissa Cooper share insights into their JCO PO article, "Clinical and Pathologic Landscapes of Delta-Like Ligand 3 and Seizure-Related Homolog Protein 6 Expression in Neuroendocrine Carcinomas"  Host Dr. Rafeh Naqash and Drs. Ross and Cooper discuss the landscape of Delta-like ligand 3 (DLL3) and seizure-related homolog protein 6 (SEZ6) across NECs from eight different primary sites. TRANSCRIPT Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Hello and welcome to JCO Precision Oncology Conversations, where we bring you engaging conversations with authors of clinically relevant and highly significant JCO PO articles. I'm your host, Dr. Rafeh Naqash, podcast editor for JCO PO and an Associate Professor at the OU Health Stephenson Cancer Center. Today, I'm excited to be joined by Dr. Jessica Ross, third-year medical oncology fellow at the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, as well as Dr. Alissa Cooper, thoracic medical oncologist at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and instructor in medicine at Harvard Medical School. Both are first and last authors of the JCO Precision Oncology article entitled "Clinical and Pathologic Landscapes of Delta-like Ligand 3 and Seizure-Related Homolog Protein 6 or SEZ6 Protein Expression in Neuroendocrine Carcinomas." At the time of this recording, our guest disclosures will be linked in the transcript. Jessica and Alissa, welcome to our podcast, and thank you for joining us today. Dr. Jessica Ross: Thanks very much for having us. Dr. Alissa Cooper: Thank you. Excited to be here. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: It's interesting, a couple of days before I decided to choose this article, one of my GI oncology colleagues actually asked me two questions. He said, "Rafeh, do you know how you define DLL3 positivity? And what is the status of DLL3 positivity in GI cancers, GI neuroendocrine carcinomas?" The first thing I looked up was this JCO article from Martin Wermke. You might have seen it as well, on obrixtamig, a phase 1 study, a DLL3 bi-specific T-cell engager. And they had some definitions there, and then this article came along, and I was really excited that it kind of fell right in place of trying to understand the IHC landscape of two very interesting targets. Since we have a very broad and diverse audience, especially community oncologists, trainees, and of course academic clinicians and some people who are very interested in genomics, we'll try to make things easy to understand. So my first question for you, Jessica, is: what is DLL3 and SEZ6 and why are they important in neuroendocrine carcinomas? Dr. Jessica Ross: Yeah, good question. So, DLL3, or delta-like ligand 3, is a protein that is expressed preferentially on the tumor cell surface of neuroendocrine carcinomas as opposed to normal tissue. It is a downstream target of ASCL1, and it's involved in neuroendocrine differentiation, and it's an appealing drug target because it is preferentially expressed on tumor cell surfaces. And so, it's a protein, and there are several drugs in development targeting this protein, and then Tarlatamab is an approved bi-specific T-cell engager for the treatment of extensive-stage small cell lung cancer in the second line. SEZ6, or seizure-like homolog protein 6, is a protein also expressed on neuroendocrine carcinoma cell surface. Interestingly, so it's expressed on neuronal cells, but its exact role in neuroendocrine carcinomas and oncogenesis is actually pretty poorly understood, but it was identified as an appealing drug target because, similarly to DLL3, it's preferentially expressed on the tumor cell surface. And so this has also emerged as an appealing drug target, and there are drugs in development, including antibody-drug conjugates, targeting this protein for that reason. Dr. Alissa Cooper: Over the last 10 to 15 years or so, there's been an increasing focus on precision oncology, finding specific targets that actually drive the cancer to grow, not just within lung cancer but in multiple other primary cancers. But specifically, at least speaking from a thoracic oncology perspective, the field of non-small cell lung cancer has completely exploded over the past 15 years with the discovery of driver oncogenes and then matched targeted therapies. Within the field of neuroendocrine carcinomas, including small cell lung cancer but also other high-grade neuroendocrine carcinomas, there has not been the same sort of progress in terms of identifying targets with matched therapies. And up until recently, we've sort of been treating these neuroendocrine malignancies kind of as a monolithic disease process. And so recently, there's been sort of an explosion of research across the country and multiple laboratories, multiple people converging on the same open questions about why might patients with specific tumor biologies have different kind of responses to different therapies. And so first this came from, you know, why some patients might have a good response to chemo and immunotherapy, which is the first-line approved therapy for small cell lung cancer, and we also sort of extrapolate that to other high-grade neuroendocrine carcinomas. What's the characteristic of that tumor biology? And at the same time, what are other targets that might be identifiable? Just as Jesse was saying, they're expressed on the cell surface, they're not necessarily expressed in normal tissue. Might this be a strategy to sort of move forward and create smarter therapies for our patients and therefore move really into a personalized era for treatment for each patient? And that's really driving, I think, a lot of the synthesis of this work of not only the development of multiple new therapies, but really understanding which tumor might be the best fit for which therapy. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Thank you for that explanation, Alissa. And as you mentioned, these are emerging targets, some more further along in the process with approved drugs, especially Tarlatamab. And obviously, DLL3 was something identified several years back, but drug development does take time, and readout for clinical trials takes time. Could you, for the sake of our audience, try to talk briefly about the excitement around Tarlatamab in small cell lung cancer, especially data that has led to the FDA approval in the last year, year and a half? Dr. Alissa Cooper: Sure. Yeah, it's really been an explosion of excitement over, as you're saying, the last couple of years, and work really led by our mentor, Charlie Rudin, had identified DLL3 as an exciting target for small cell lung cancer specifically but also potentially other high-grade neuroendocrine malignancies. Tarlatamab is a DLL3-targeting bi-specific T-cell engager, which targets DLL3 on the small cell lung cancer cells as well as CD3 on T cells. And the idea is to sort of introduce the cancer to the immune system, circumventing the need for MHC class antigen presentation, which that machinery is typically not functional in small cell lung cancer, and so really allowing for an immunomodulatory response, which had not really been possible for most patients with small cell lung cancer prior to this. Tarlatamab was tested in a phase 2 registrational trial of about 100 patients and demonstrated a response rate of 40%, which was very exciting, especially compared with other standard therapies which were available for small cell lung cancer, which are typically cytotoxic therapies. But most excitingly, more than even the response rate, I think, in our minds was the durability of response. So patients whose disease did have a response to Tarlatamab could potentially have a durable response lasting a number of months or even over a year, which had previously not ever been seen in this in the relapsed/refractory setting for these patients. I think the challenge with small cell lung cancer and other high-grade neuroendocrine malignancies is that a response to therapy might be a bit easier to achieve, but it's that durability. The patient's tumors really come roaring back quite aggressively pretty quickly. And so this was sort of the most exciting prospect is that durability of response, that long potential overall survival tail of the curve really being lifted up. And then most recently at ASCO this year, Dr. Rudin presented the phase 3 randomized controlled trial which compared Tarlatamab to physician's choice of chemotherapy in a global study. And the choice of chemotherapy did vary depending on the part of the world that the patients were enrolled in, but in general, it was a really markedly positive study for response rate, for progression-free survival, and for overall survival. Really exciting results which really cemented Tarlatamab's place as the standard second-line therapy for patients with small cell lung cancer whose disease has progressed on first-line chemo-immunotherapy. So that has been very exciting. This drug was FDA approved in May of 2024, and so has been used extensively since then. I think the adoption has been pretty widespread, at least in the US, but now in this global trial that was just presented, and there was a corresponding New England Journal paper, I think really confirms that this is something we really hopefully can offer to most of our patients. And I think, as we all know, that this therapy or other therapies like it are also being tested potentially in the first-line setting. So there was data presented with Tarlatamab incorporated into the maintenance setting, which also showed exciting results, albeit in a phase 1 trial, but longer overall survival than we're used to seeing in this patient population. And we await results of the study that is incorporating Tarlatamab into the induction phase with chemotherapy as well. So all of this is extraordinarily exciting for our patients to sort of move the needle of how many patients we can keep alive, feeling functional, feeling well, for as long as possible. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Very exciting session at ASCO. I was luckily one of the co-chairs for the session that Dr. Rudin presented it, and I remember somebody mentioning there was more progress seen in that session for small cell lung cancer than the last 30, 35 years for small cell, very exciting space and time to be in as far as small cell lung cancer. Now going to this project, Jessica, since you're the first author and Alissa's the last, I'm assuming there was a background conversation that you had with Alissa before you embarked on this project as an idea. So could you, again, for other trainees who are interested in doing research, and it's never easy to do research as a resident and a fellow when you have certain added responsibilities. Could you give us a little bit of a background on how this started and why you wanted to look at this question? Dr. Jessica Ross: Yeah, sure. So, as with many exciting research concepts, I think a lot of them are derived from the clinic. And so I think Alissa and I both see a good number of patients with small cell, large cell lung cancer, and then high-grade neuroendocrine carcinomas. And so I think this was really born out of a basic conversation of we have these drugs in development targeting these two proteins, DLL3 and SEZ6, but really what is the landscape of cancers that express these proteins and who are the patients that really might benefit from these exciting new therapies. And of course, there was some data out there, but sort of less than one would imagine in terms of, you know, neuroendocrine carcinomas can really come from anywhere in the body. And so when you're seeing a patient with small cell of the cervix, for example, like what are the chances that their cancer expresses DLL3 or expresses SEZ6? So it was really derived from this pragmatic, clinically oriented question that we had both found ourselves thinking about, and we were lucky enough at MSK, we had started systematically staining patients' tumors for DLL3, tumors that are high-grade neuroendocrine carcinomas, and then we had also more recently started staining for SEZ6 as well. And so we had this nice prospectively collected dataset with which to answer this question. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Excellent. And Alissa, could you try to go into some of the details around which patients you chose, how many patients, what was the approach that you selected to collect the data for this project? Dr. Alissa Cooper: This is perhaps a strength but also maybe a limitation of this dataset is, as Jesse alluded to, our pathology colleagues are really the stars of this paper here because we were lucky enough at MSK that they were really forethinking. They are absolute experts in the field and really forward-thinking people in terms of what information might be needed in the future to drive treatment decision-making. And so, as Jesse had said, small cell lung cancer tumor samples reflexively are stained for DLL3 and SEZ6 at MSK if there's enough tumor tissue. The other high-grade neuroendocrine carcinomas, those stains are performed upon physician request. And so that is a bit of a mixed bag in terms of the tumor samples we were able to include in this dataset because, you know, upon physician request depends on a number of factors, but actually at MSK, a number of physicians were requesting these stains to be done on their patients with high-grade neuroendocrine cancers of of other histologies. So we looked at all tumor samples with a diagnosis of high-grade neuroendocrine carcinoma of any histology that were stained for these two stains of interest. You know, I can let Jesse talk a bit more about the methodology. She was really the driver of this project. Dr. Jessica Ross: Yeah, sure. So we had 124 tumor samples total. All of those were stained for DLL3, and then a little less than half, 53, were stained for SEZ6. As Alissa said, they were from any primary site. So about half of them were of lung origin, that was the most common primary site, but we included GI tract, head and neck, GU, GYN, even a few tumors of unknown origin. And again, that's because I think a lot of these trials are basket trials that are including different high-grade neuroendocrine carcinomas no matter the primary site. And so we really felt like it was important to be more comprehensive and inclusive in this study. And then, methodologically, we also defined positivity in terms of staining of these two proteins as anything greater than or equal to 1% staining. There's really not a defined consensus of positivity when it comes to these two novel targets and staining for these two proteins. But in the Tarlatamab trials, for some of the correlative work that's been done, they use that 1% cutoff, and we just felt like being consistent with that and also using a sort of more pragmatic yes/no cutoff would be more helpful for this analysis. Dr. Alissa Cooper: And that was a point of discussion, actually. We had contemplated multiple different schemas, actually, for how to define thresholds of positivity. And I know you brought up that question before, what does it mean to be DLL3 positive or DLL3 high? I think you were alluding to prior that there was a presentation of obrixtamig looking at extra-pulmonary neuroendocrine carcinomas, and they actually divvied up the results between DLL3 50% or greater versus DLL3 low under 50%. And they actually did demonstrate differential efficacy certainly, but also some differential safety as well, which is very provocative and that kind of analysis has not been presented for other novel therapies as far as I'm aware. I could be wrong, but as far as I'm aware, that was sort of the first time that we saw a systematic presentation of considering patients to be, quote unquote, "high" or "low" in these sort of novel targets. I think it is important because the label for Tarlatamab does not require any DLL3 expression at all, actually. So it's not hinging upon DLL3 expression. They depend on the fact that the vast majority of small cell lung cancer tumors do express DLL3, 85% to 90% is what's been demonstrated in a few studies. And so, there's not prerequisite testing needed in that regard, but maybe for these extra-pulmonary, other histology neuroendocrine carcinomas, maybe it does matter to some degree. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Definitely agree that this evolving landscape of trying to understand whether an expression for something actually really does correlate with, whether it's an immune cell engager or an antibody-drug conjugate is a very evolving and dynamically moving space. And one of the questions that I was discussing with one of my friends was whether IHC positivity and the level of IHC positivity, as you've shown in one of those plots where you have double positive here on the right upper corner, you have the double negative towards the left lower, whether that somehow determines mRNA expression for DLL3. Obviously, that was not the question here that you were looking at, but it does kind of bring into question certain other aspects of correlations, expression versus IHC. Now going to the figures in this manuscript, very nicely done figures, very easy to understand because I've done the podcast for quite a bit now, and usually what I try to do first is go through the figures before I read the text, and and a lot of times it's hard to understand the figures without reading the text, but in your case, specifically the figures were very, very well done. Could you give us an overview, a quick overview of some of the important results, Jessica, as far as what you've highlighted in the manuscript? Dr. Jessica Ross: Sure. So I think the key takeaway is that, of the tumors in our cohort, the majority were positive for DLL3 and positive for SEZ6. So about 80% of them were positive for DLL3 and 80% were positive for SEZ6. About half of the tumors were stained for both proteins, and about 65% of those were positive as well. So I think if there's sort of one major takeaway, it's that when you're seeing a patient with a high-grade neuroendocrine carcinoma, the odds are that their tumor will express both of these proteins. And so that can sort of get your head thinking about what therapies they might be eligible for. And then we also did an analysis of some populations of interest. So for example, we know that non-neuroendocrine pathologies can transform into neuroendocrine tumors. And so we specifically looked at that subset of patients with transformed tumors, and those were also- the majority of them were positive, about three-quarters of them were positive for both of these two proteins. We looked at patients with brain met samples, again, about 70% were positive. And then I'd say the last sort of population of interest was we had a subset of 10 patients who had serial biopsies stained for either DLL3 or SEZ6 or both. In between the two samples, these patients were treated with chemotherapy. They were not treated with targeted therapy, but interestingly, in the majority of cases, the testing results were concordant, meaning if it was DLL3 positive to begin with, it tended to remain DLL3 positive after treatment. And so I think that's important as well as we think about, you know, a patient who maybe had DLL3 testing done before they received their induction chemo-IO, we can somewhat confidently say that they're probably still DLL3 positive after that treatment. And then finally, we did do a survival analysis among specifically the patients with lung neuroendocrine carcinomas. We looked at whether DLL3 expression affected progression-free survival on first-line platinum-etoposide, and then we looked at did it affect overall survival. And we found that it did not have an impact or the median progression-free survival was similar whether you were DLL3 positive or negative. But interestingly, with overall survival, we found that DLL3 positivity actually correlated with slightly improved overall survival. These were small numbers, and so, you know, I think we have to interpret this with caution, for sure, but it is interesting. I think there may be something to the fact that five of the patients who were DLL3 positive were treated with DLL3-targeting treatments. And so this made me think of, like in the breast cancer world, for example, if you have a patient with HER2-positive disease, it initially portended worse prognosis, more aggressive disease biology, but on the other hand, it opens the door for targeted treatments that actually now, at least with HER2-positive breast cancer, are associated with improved outcomes. And so I think that's one finding of interest as well. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Definitely proof-of-concept findings here that you guys have in the manuscript. Alissa, if I may ask you, what is the next important step for a project like this in your mind? Dr. Alissa Cooper: Jesse has highlighted a couple of key findings that we hope to move forward with future investigative studies, not necessarily in a real-world setting, but maybe even in clinical trial settings or in collaboration with sponsors. Are these biomarkers predictive? Are they prognostic? You know, those are still- we have some nascent data, data has been brewing, but I think that we we still don't have the answers to those open questions, which I think are critically important for determining not only clinical treatment decision-making, but also our ability to understand sequencing of therapies, prioritization of therapies. I think a prospective, forward-looking project, piggybacking on that paired biopsy, you know, we had a very small subset of patients with paired biopsies, but a larger subset or cohort looking at paired biopsies where we can see is there evolution of these IHC expression, even mRNA expression, as you're saying, is there differential there? Are there selection pressures to targeted therapies? Is there upregulation or downregulation of targets in response not just to chemotherapy, but for example, for other sort of ADCs or bi-specific T-cell engagers? I think those are going to be critically important future studies which are going to be a bit challenging to do, but really important to figure out this key clinical question of sequencing, which we're all contemplating in our clinics day in and day out. If you have a patient, and these patients often can be sick quite quickly, they might have one shot of what's the next treatment that you're going to pick. We can't guarantee that every patient is going to get to see every therapy. How can you help to sort of answer the question of like what should you offer? So I think that's the key question sort of underlying any future work is how predictive or prognostic are these biomarkers? What translational or correlative studies can we do on the tissue to understand clinical treatment decision-making? I think those are the key things that will unfold in the next couple of years. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: The last question for you, Alissa, that I have is, you are fairly early in your career, and you've accomplished quite a lot. One of the most important things that comes out from this manuscript is your mentorship for somebody who is a fellow and who led this project. For other junior investigators, early-career investigators, how did you do this? How did you manage to do this, and how did you mentor Jessica on this project with some of the lessons that you learned along the way, the good and other things that would perhaps help other listeners as they try to mentor residents, trainees, which is one of the important things of what we do in our daily routine? Dr. Alissa Cooper: I appreciate you calling me accomplished. Um, I'm not sure how true that is, but I appreciate that. I didn't have to do a whole lot with this project because Jesse is an extraordinarily smart, driven, talented fellow who came up with a lot of the clinical questions and a lot of the research questions as well. And so this project was definitely a collaborative project on both of our ends. But I think what was helpful from both of our perspectives is from my perspective, I could kind of see that this was a gap in the literature that really, I think, from my work leading clinical trials and from treating patients with these kinds of cancers that I really hoped to answer. And so when I came to Jessica with this idea as sort of a project to complete, she was very eager to take it and run with it and also make it her own. You know, in terms of early mentorship, I have to admit this was the first project that I mentored, so it was a great learning experience for me as well because as an early-career clinician and researcher, you're used to having someone else looking over your shoulder to tell you, "Yes, this is a good journal target, here's what we can anticipate reviewers are going to say, here are other key collaborators we should include." Those kind of things about a project that don't always occur to you as you're sort of first starting out. And so all of that experience for me to be identifying those more upper-level management sort of questions was a really good learning experience for me. And of course, I was fantastically lucky to have a partner in Jesse, who is just a rising star. Dr. Jessica Ross: Thank you. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Well, excellent. It sounds like the first of many other mentorship opportunities to come for you, Alissa. And Jessica, congratulations on your next step of joining and being faculty, hopefully, where you're training. Thank you again, both of you. This was very insightful. I definitely learned a lot after I reviewed the manuscript and read the manuscript. Hopefully, our listeners will feel the same. Perhaps we'll have more of your work being published in JCO PO subsequently. Dr. Alissa Cooper: Hope so. Thank you very much for the opportunity to chat today. Dr. Jessica Ross: Yes, thank you. This was great. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Thank you for listening to JCO Precision Oncology Conversations. Don't forget to give us a rating or review and be sure to subscribe so as you never miss an episode. You can find all ASCO shows at asco.org/podcasts. The purpose of this podcast is to educate and to inform. This is not a substitute for professional medical care and is not intended for use in the diagnosis or treatment of individual conditions. Guests on this podcast express their own opinions, experience, and conclusions. Guest statements on the podcast do not express the opinions of ASCO. The mention of any product, service, organization, activity, or therapy should not be construed as an ASCO endorsement. Disclosures: Dr. Alissa Jamie Cooper Honoraria Company: MJH Life Scienes, Ideology Health, Intellisphere LLC, MedStar Health, Physician's Education Resource, LLC,  Gilead Sciences, Regeneron, Daiichi Sankyo/Astra Zeneca, Novartis,  Research Funding: Merck, Roche, Monte Rosa Therapeutics, Abbvie, Amgen, Daiichi Sankyo/Astra Zeneca Travel, Accommodations, Expenses: Gilead Sciences

Discover how innovative drip irrigation technologies are transforming water management and boosting efficiency in farming. Mike Hemman, Netafim Senior Vice President of North America, shares his journey from crop protection to leading irrigation solutions, highlighting the challenges and opportunities in modern agriculture. Tune in to explore the future of precision farming and the vital role of water conservation across the globe. *** Show Notes: Ag Solutions Network Socials: https://www.agsolutionsnetwork.com/agemergepodcast https://www.facebook.com/ASN.farm https://www.linkedin.com/company/agsolutionsnetwork https://twitter.com/POWER2GRO https://www.instagram.com/agsolutionsnetwork/ Ag Solutions Network website: https://www.agsolutionsnetwork.com/ Click to watch or listen and as always, let us know if you have any questions or guest ideas by emailing ​contactus@agsolutionsnetwork.com​. Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Drip Irrigation 00:06:00 - Mike Hemman's Journey 00:12:00 - Innovative Irrigation Solutions 00:18:00 - Water Conservation and Efficiency 00:24:00 - Future of Precision Farming 00:30:00 - Challenges in Water Management 00:36:00 - The Role of Technology in Agriculture 00:42:00 - Sustainable Farming Practices 00:48:00 - Netafim's Global Impact 00:54:00 - Closing Thoughts and Future Outlook *** *** Introducing the Ag Modernization Fund Water basins are strained across the nation, and while modern irrigation remains one of the fastest and most proven ways to improve water use efficiency, many farmers still face barriers to accessing the financing for installing the latest systems. To address this challenge, Orbia, Netafim USA along with California Water Resilience Initiative (CWRI), launched the Ag Modernization Fund, a first-of-its-kind investment vehicle that pools private-sector capital to directly fund irrigation upgrades for growers. Backed by Keurig Dr Pepper, Gilead Sciences, and General Mills, the fund closed in 2025 with $300,000, already supporting five farms spanning 200 acres. These projects, to be completed within the year, are projected to reduce water use by 491 acre-feet — nearly 159 million gallons annually, enough to fill 241 Olympic-sized pools. This fund is also listed on the UN-backed CEO Water Mandate's Water Action Hub, aligning with global sustainability goals to address water stress across 100 priority basins worldwide — 8 of which are in the United States. About Our Guest: Mike Hemman - SVP, Netafim North America Division Mike joined Netafim, Orbia Precision Agriculture business, in 2019 as the President of Netafim USA and was promoted to Senior Vice President of North America in 2024. He has been instrumental in driving strategic growth and expanding profit margins through innovative market strategies, customer segmentation, product lifecycle management, and improvements in supply chain and manufacturing efficiencies. With multiple decades of experience in the crop protection and seed industry, Mike has held key commercial leadership positions at DuPont, Corteva, and Pioneer Seed. His extensive background in biologicals, fertility, crop protection, seed, and irrigation give him a unique cross-sector perspective on the agricultural industry. Mike holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Plant Science from California State University, Fresno, where he also pursued Master of Science coursework in agronomy. He is currently a member of the Executive Board of the Irrigation Association and has previously served on the boards of the Agricultural Retailers Association, Western Plant Health Association, and California Association of Pest Control Advisers.

In this episode, Benjamin Levy, MD, FASCO, and Alex Spira, MD, PhD, FASCO, discuss the latest developments in targeting TROP2 and TIGIT for the treatment of lung cancer, including:TROP2-targeting ADCs: datopotamab deruxtecan, sacituzumab govitecan, sacituzumab tirumotecan TROP2 ADCS for patients with EGFR-mutated NSCLCTIGIT-targeting agents: domvanalimab, rilvegostomigPresenters:Benjamin Levy, MD, FASCOAssociate ProfessorJohns Hopkins School of MedicineClinical DirectorJohns Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center, National Capitol Region (NCR)Washington, DCAlex Spira, MD, PhD, FASCODirector Clinical ResearchVirginia Cancer SpecialistsCEO NEXT Oncology VirginiaFairfax, VirginiaContent based on an online CME program supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Link to full program:https://bit.ly/4qZLR6B Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Send us a textGood morning from Pharma Daily: the podcast that brings you the most important developments in the pharmaceutical and biotech world. Today, we're diving into several groundbreaking advancements and strategic shifts in the industry that promise to reshape the landscape of patient care and therapeutic innovations.The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has introduced a novel regulatory pathway aimed at expediting the approval process for custom gene-editing therapies. Articulated by FDA officials Vinay Prasad, M.D., and Martin Makary, M.D., this new approach is set to revolutionize personalized medicine, particularly for genetic disorders where tailored interventions are crucial. Gene editing technologies, like CRISPR-Cas9, have opened unprecedented avenues for addressing genetic conditions directly at their source. However, the regulatory framework has struggled to keep pace with these advances, often hampering innovation with lengthy and complex approval processes.This proposed pathway seeks to streamline these requirements by adopting a risk-based assessment model that considers the unique properties of gene-editing therapies. Unlike traditional drugs, which follow a uniform clinical trial path, gene-editing treatments require a more nuanced regulatory approach due to their precision and potential off-target effects. The framework emphasizes adaptive trial designs—allowing for modifications based on interim results—and integrates real-world data to create a dynamic regulatory process. This not only promises faster development times but also fosters innovation by making it easier for companies to bring cutting-edge therapies to market.The implications are far-reaching. For researchers and biotech firms, this represents a chance to reduce time-to-market significantly while maintaining high safety standards. It also sets a precedent for future regulatory models that prioritize patient-centric approaches, acknowledging the diverse genetic landscapes of individuals with rare diseases. On a broader scale, this shift underscores the increasing recognition of personalized medicine's potential to transform healthcare delivery.In parallel developments, Gilead Sciences has achieved positive phase 3 results for its single-tablet regimen combining bictegravir and lenacapavir for HIV treatment. This milestone offers hope for simplifying treatment protocols for patients currently on multi-tablet regimens, potentially enhancing adherence and improving health outcomes. Gilead's preparation for regulatory filings marks an essential step forward in their therapeutic portfolio.Turning to cancer treatment advancements, Kyowa Kirin's collaboration with Kura Oncology has led to FDA approval for an oral medication targeting a subset of acute myeloid leukemia patients. This approval highlights the power of strategic partnerships in expediting the development of targeted cancer therapies and brings new hope to patients with limited treatment options.Meanwhile, several pharmaceutical companies, including Fresenius, Sun Pharma, and Teva, have been involved in product recalls ranging from hospital drugs to antibiotics and ADHD medications. These recalls underscore ongoing challenges in maintaining drug safety standards and emphasize the need for rigorous quality control measures across the industry.Zealand Pharma has opted to pause development of its dual GLP-1/GLP-2 agonist, dapiglutide, due to an increasingly crowded metabolic disorder treatment landscape. By reallocating resources towards programs with greater clinical differentiation potential, Zealand reflects broader industry trends prioritizing investments in areas with clearer paths to market success.In malaria treatment advances, Novartis has achieved significant progress with its next-generation drug 'Ganlum,Support the show

Overview: In this episode, Dr Joel Gallant gives a history of antiretroviral therapy and HIV drug resistance, drawing on his personal and professional experience beginning in the early 1980s. The views expressed are those of the panelist and not necessarily Gilead Sciences, Inc. The information provided in this podcast is not intended to be and should not be understood to provide medical advice. Listeners should note that our discussions in this episode are relevant to the USA only and may not be appropriate for other regions. This episode was recorded in August 2023 and the content reflects the information available at that time. Guest: Joel Gallant, MD, MPH    For more information, please visit: https://www.pri-med.com/clinical-resources/curriculum/hiv-in-focus    References AIDSVu.org. New HIV diagnoses. 2023. 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Overview: In this episode, Dr Melissa Jones and Dr Christian Ramers discuss the importance of pan-viral screening for HIV and hepatitis. They emphasize the need for integrated testing and prevention strategies and the current barriers to implementation. The views expressed are those of the panelist(s) and not necessarily Gilead Sciences, Inc. The information provided in this podcast is not intended to be and should not be understood to provide medical advice. Listeners should note that our discussions in this episode are relevant to the USA only and may not be appropriate for other regions. This episode was recorded in August 2025 and the content reflects the information available at that time. Guest: Christian B Ramers, MD, MPH, FIDSA, AAHIVS; Melissa Jones, DNP, APRN-BC   For more information, please visit: https://www.pri-med.com/clinical-resources/curriculum/hiv-in-focus  References AASLD/IDSA. HCV guidance: recommendations for testing, managing, and treating hepatitis C. 2025. 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Overview: In this episode, Dr Toyin Nwafor and Dr Andrew Zolopa provide an overview of the HIV treatment landscape both globally and in the United States. They highlight the current gaps in the HIV care continuum, emphasize the importance of rapid start and viral suppression in reducing HIV transmission through sex and describe initiatives and strategies aimed at closing these gaps to help end the HIV epidemic in the United States. The views expressed are those of the panelist(s) and not necessarily Gilead Sciences, Inc. The information provided in this podcast is not intended to be and should not be understood to provide medical advice. Listeners should note that our discussions in this episode are relevant to the USA only and may not be appropriate for other regions. This episode was recorded in August 2025 and the content reflects the information available at that time. Guest: Toyin Nwafor, MD; Andrew Zolopa, MD   For more information, please visit: https://www.pri-med.com/clinical-resources/curriculum/hiv-in-focus  References AETC. Rapid (immediate) ART initiation and restart: guide for clinicians. 2023. Available from: https://aidsetc.org/resource/rapid-immediate-art-initiation-restart-guide-clinicians (Accessed June 25, 2025). Baxter A et al. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr 2025;99:47–54. CDC. About ending the HIV epidemic in the US. 2024. Available from: https://www.cdc.gov/ehe/php/about/index.html (Accessed June 25, 2025). CDC. Clinical testing guidance for HIV. 2025. Available from: https://www.cdc.gov/hivnexus/hcp/diagnosis-testing/index.html (Accessed June 25, 2025). CDC. Getting tested for HIV. 2025. Available from: https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/testing/index.html#cdc_testing_why_get_tested-why-get-tested (Accessed June 25, 2025). CDC. Laboratory testing for the diagnosis of HIV infection. 2014. Available from: https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/23446 (Accessed June 25, 2025). CDC. National HIV prevention and care objectives: 2025 update. 2025. Available from: https://www.cdc.gov/hiv-data/nhss/national-hiv-prevention-and-care-objectives-2025.html (Accessed June 25, 2025). Delaney KP et al. Am J Prev Med 2021;61(5 Suppl 1):S6–S15. DHHS. Guidelines for the use of antiretroviral agents in adults and adolescents living with HIV. 2024. Available from: https://clinicalinfo.hiv.gov/sites/default/files/guidelines/documents/adult-adolescent-arv/guidelines-adult-adolescent-arv.pdf (Accessed June 25, 2025). HIV.gov. EHE overview. 2025. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/federal-response/ending-the-hiv-epidemic/overview (Accessed June 25, 2025). HIV.gov. Global statistics. 2025. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/global-statistics (Accessed June 25, 2025). HIV.gov. HIV Care Continuum. 2025. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/federal-response/other-topics/hiv-aids-care-continuum (Accessed June 25, 2025). HIV.gov. Key EHE strategies. 2024. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/federal-response/ending-the-hiv-epidemic/key-strategies (Accessed June 25, 2025). HIV.gov. US statistics. 2025. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics (Accessed June 25, 2025). HIV.gov. Viral suppression and undetectable viral load. 2025. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/staying-in-hiv-care/hiv-treatment/viral-suppression (Accessed June 25, 2025). Mirzazadeh A et al. PLoS Med 2022;19:e1003940. NIH. HIV testing. 2025. Available from: https://hivinfo.nih.gov/understanding-hiv/fact-sheets/hiv-testing (Accessed June 25, 2025). Palacio-Vieira J et al. BMC Public Health 2021;21:1596. Saag MS et al. JAMA 2018;320:379–96. The White House. National HIV/AIDS strategy for the United States 2022–2025. 2021. Available from: https://files.hiv.gov/s3fs-public/NHAS-2022-2025.pdf (Accessed June 25, 2025). WHO. Supporting re-engagement in HIV treatment services: policy brief. 2024. Available from: https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240097339 (Accessed June 25, 2025).

Overview: In this episode, Dr Gina Brown and Dr Sahar Khalili draw on their expertise in HIV prevention to provide an overview of the current PrEP landscape in the United States. They highlight advancements in HIV prevention and emphasize the importance of targeted programs to address disparities in access and uptake across population groups and geographic regions. The views expressed are those of the panelist(s) and not necessarily Gilead Sciences, Inc. The information provided in this podcast is not intended to be and should not be understood to provide medical advice. Listeners should note that our discussions in this episode are relevant to the USA only and may not be appropriate for other regions. This episode was recorded in August 2025 and the content reflects the information available at that time. Guest: Gina Brown, MD; Sahar Khalili, PharmD   For more information, please visit: https://www.pri-med.com/clinical-resources/curriculum/hiv-in-focus  References ACOG. 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Overview: In this episode, Toyin Nwafor, MD, and Christian B Ramers, MD, draw on their experience in primary care, HIV and HIV prevention to highlight missed opportunities for HIV prevention and discuss strategies to help address gaps in the HIV care continuum. The views expressed are those of the panelist(s) and not necessarily Gilead Sciences, Inc. The information provided in this podcast is not intended to be and should not be understood to provide medical advice. Listeners should note that our discussions in this episode are relevant to the USA only and may not be appropriate for other regions. This episode was recorded in August 2025 and the content reflects the information available at that time. Guest: Toyin Nwafor, MD; Christian B Ramers, MD, MPH, FIDSA, AAHIVS   For more information, please visit: https://www.pri-med.com/clinical-resources/curriculum/hiv-in-focus  References AIDSVu.org. Prevalence in the United States. 2022. Available from: https://map.aidsvu.org/ (Accessed June 25, 2025). AIDSVu.org was developed by the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University in partnership with Gilead Sciences, Inc. Baeten J et al. Curr HIV/AIDS Rep 2013;10:142–51. CDC. Clinical testing guidance for HIV. 2025. Available from: https://www.cdc.gov/hivnexus/hcp/diagnosis-testing/index.html (Accessed June 25, 2025). CDC. Discussing sexual health with your patients. 2025. Available from: https://www.cdc.gov/hivnexus/hcp/sexual-history/index.html (Accessed June 25, 2025). CDC.gov. HIV diagnoses, deaths, and prevalence. 2025. Available from: https://www.cdc.gov/hiv-data/nhss/hiv-diagnoses-deaths-prevalence.html (Accessed June 25, 2025). CDC. National HIV prevention and care objectives: 2025 update. 2025. Available from: https://www.cdc.gov/hiv-data/nhss/national-hiv-prevention-and-care-objectives-2025.html (Accessed June 25, 2025). CDC. Preexposure prophylaxis for the prevention of HIV infection in the United States – 2021 update: a clinical practice guideline. 2021. Available from: https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/112360 (Accessed June 25, 2025). Doblecki-Lewis S et al. J Int Assoc Provid AIDS Care 2019;18:2325958219848848. DHHS. Guidelines for the use of antiretroviral agents in adults and adolescents with HIV. 2024. Available from: https://clinicalinfo.hiv.gov/sites/default/files/guidelines/documents/adult-adolescent-arv/guidelines-adult-adolescent-arv.pdf (Accessed June 25, 2025). HIV.gov. Key EHE strategies. 2024. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/federal-response/ending-the-hiv-epidemic/key-strategies (Accessed June 2, 2025). HIV.gov. HIV treatment as prevention. 2023. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/tasp (Accessed June 25, 2025). HIV.gov. US statistics. 2025. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics (Accessed May 21, 2025). HIV.gov. Viral suppression and undetectable viral load. 2025. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/staying-in-hiv-care/hiv-treatment/viral-suppression (Accessed July 18, 2025). HIV.gov. Who is at risk for HIV. 2025. Available from: https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/about-hiv-and-aids/who-is-at-risk-for-hiv (Accessed June 25, 2025). Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. What to know about PrEP. 2025. Available from: https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/who-needs-prep-for-hiv-prevention (Accessed June 25, 2025). Kamis KF et al. Open Forum Infect Dis 2019;6:ofz310. KFF. HIV testing in the United States. 2024. Available from: https://www.kff.org/hiv-aids/hiv-testing-in-the-united-states/ting in the United States | KFF (Accessed August 26, 2025). NIH. HIV and sexually transmitted infections (STIs). 2021. Available from: https://hivinfo.nih.gov/understanding-hiv/fact-sheets/hiv-and-sexually-transmitted-infections-stis (Accessed June 25, 2025). Ramchandani MS et al. Curr HIV/AIDS Rep 2019;16:244–56. Saag MS et al. JAMA 2018;320:379–96. Sweeney P et al. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr 2019;82(Suppl 1):S1–5. The White House. National HIV/AIDS strategy for the United States 2022–2025. 2021. Available from: https://files.hiv.gov/s3fs-public/NHAS-2022-2025.pdf (Accessed June 25, 2025). UNAIDS.org. Recommended 2030 targets for HIV. 2025. Available from: https://www.unaids.org/en/recommended-2030-targets-for-hiv (Accessed August 26, 2025). United States Census Bureau. National population by characteristics: 2020-2024. 2024. Available from: https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/popest/2020s-national-detail.html (Accessed June 25, 2025). United States Census Bureau. United States Population Growth by Region. 2025. Available from: https://www.census.gov/popclock/ (Accessed June 25, 2025). Yumori C et al. Sex Transm Dis 2021;48:32–6.

Send us a textGood morning from Pharma Daily: the podcast that brings you the most important developments in the pharmaceutical and biotech world. Today, we're diving into a series of groundbreaking developments that are reshaping the landscape of drug development and patient care. These stories highlight the dynamic nature of the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, where scientific advancements and regulatory changes are driving significant shifts.We begin with a crucial milestone in oncology treatment. The FDA has granted approval to Johnson & Johnson's Darzalex Faspro for patients with high-risk smoldering multiple myeloma. This approval is particularly significant as it provides a new therapeutic pathway for individuals with this precursor condition to active multiple myeloma, which previously had few treatment options. The drug works by targeting CD38 proteins on myeloma cells, representing a leap forward in monoclonal antibody treatments for cancer. This decision underscores the FDA's ongoing commitment to expanding treatment options for conditions with high unmet needs, potentially setting a precedent for future approvals in early-stage malignancies.Meanwhile, Gilead Sciences encountered challenges with its oncology pipeline as Trodelvy failed to meet its primary endpoint in a Phase 3 trial for first-line HR+/HER2-negative metastatic breast cancer. This outcome highlights the complexities of oncology drug development, despite previous successes in other indications. Such setbacks remind us of the inherent risks involved in bringing innovative therapies to market.In contrast, Akeso has announced positive data for ivonescimab, a PD-(L)1xVEGF bispecific antibody. The drug demonstrated significant overall survival benefits in patients with previously treated EGFR-mutated non-small cell lung cancer. This advancement underscores the therapeutic potential of bispecific antibodies in cancer immunotherapy, which continue to gain traction as they target multiple pathways involved in tumor growth and immune evasion.Regulatory incentives have also been making waves. The FDA's rollout of the second round of "national priority" voucher winners aims to accelerate drug development timelines, particularly in critical areas such as obesity. Companies like Lilly and Novo Nordisk have been recognized for their efforts, highlighting a broader strategy to bring transformative therapies to market more swiftly.On the corporate front, Bayer's proposed private equity buyout fell through due to insufficient shareholder support, reflecting ongoing financial volatility and strategic recalibrations within biotech firms. Meanwhile, CMS's introduction of a new Medicaid pricing model aims to implement "most-favored nation" pricing strategies to control drug costs, signaling potential shifts in how pharmaceutical companies approach pricing negotiations and reimbursement strategies.Technological advancements are also at the forefront of innovation. Eli Lilly has expanded its AI-driven drug discovery partnership with XtalPi, focusing on antibody development. This collaboration exemplifies how AI is increasingly being integrated into pharmaceutical research to enhance drug discovery processes.Furthermore, China's decision to lift its ban on Illumina's DNA sequencers is expected to facilitate greater access to advanced genomic technologies within the region, fostering innovation in precision medicine.Leadership changes continue to shape industry dynamics. For instance, Recursion Pharmaceuticals is undergoing executive restructuring to better align with evolving market needs and innovation strategies. These changes are crucial for maintaining competitiveness and fostering an environment conducive to scientific breakthroughs.The industry is also witnessing strategic realignmenSupport the show

Good morning from Pharma Daily: the podcast that brings you the most important developments in the pharmaceutical and biotech world. Today, we're diving into a series of fascinating advancements and strategic movements that are shaping the landscape of drug development and patient care.Starting with a significant milestone in precision oncology, China has approved its first EGFR-targeted antibody-drug conjugate. This approval marks a pivotal moment in the industry's shift towards targeted therapies, which promise more precise treatment options with potentially fewer side effects than traditional chemotherapy. Targeted therapies are at the forefront of personalized medicine, where treatments are tailored to individual genetic profiles, offering hope for more effective cancer care.In the realm of HIV prevention, Gilead Sciences has reported impressive sales for its new long-acting pre-exposure prophylaxis medication, Yetztugo. Since its launch in June 2025, Yetztugo has generated $54 million in U.S. sales, underscoring the demand for long-term HIV prevention solutions. This development is part of Gilead's broader strategy to strengthen its HIV franchise as it advances its pipeline with promising candidates like GS-3242 alongside lenacapavir. The aim is to develop treatments that require less frequent dosing, which could significantly improve patient adherence and outcomes. Despite challenges within its HIV portfolio and declining Veklury sales, Gilead Sciences is actively seeking growth opportunities through strategic partnerships and pipeline advancements—an essential approach for navigating patent cliffs while sustaining long-term growth.On the financial front, AbbVie has increased its revenue forecast by $400 million to a staggering $60.9 billion, driven by robust sales from its immunology drugs Skyrizi and Rinvoq. These treatments address chronic inflammatory conditions like psoriasis and rheumatoid arthritis, reflecting AbbVie's strong positioning in this therapeutic area despite competitive pressures. AbbVie continues to report strong earnings from Skyrizi and Rinvoq, reinforcing its dominance in the immunology market and highlighting the profitable nature of successful biologics in treating chronic inflammatory diseases.Biogen continues to bolster its multiple sclerosis franchise by focusing on both legacy treatments and new product launches. This strategy highlights the importance of balancing innovation with lifecycle management to maintain market strength against generic competition—a common challenge in the industry.Meanwhile, the American Academy of Pediatrics has taken a cautious stance by not endorsing leucovorin for autism treatment due to insufficient evidence. This decision emphasizes the critical need for rigorous, evidence-based practices in developing clinical guidelines for complex disorders like autism.Internationally, CSL Seqirus has partnered with Saudi Arabia to supply cell-based influenza vaccines and support local production capabilities. This move aligns with global efforts to enhance pandemic preparedness and healthcare resilience through local manufacturing initiatives.The volatile nature of the biotech sector is evident with reports of 16 companies ceasing operations in 2025 due to high R&D costs and regulatory challenges. Despite these closures, such volatility opens doors for new innovations that could address unmet medical needs.Turning our attention to obesity treatment, Eli Lilly stands at a crucial juncture with its novel obesity medication, orforglipron. The company aims to make this weight loss pill accessible while maintaining financial viability for future R&D—a balancing act faced by many pharmaceutical companies as they strive to deliver affordable yet innovative treatments amid growing global health concerns. However, not all R&D efforts reach fruition. Eli Lilly has decided to discontinue its mid-stage program Support the show

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/QHH865. CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA credit will be available until October 21, 2026.Advancing PBC Care Through Timely Referral and Treatment: From Diagnosis to Long-Term Management In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis program has been supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/QHH865. CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA credit will be available until October 21, 2026.Advancing PBC Care Through Timely Referral and Treatment: From Diagnosis to Long-Term Management In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis program has been supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/QHH865. CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA credit will be available until October 21, 2026.Advancing PBC Care Through Timely Referral and Treatment: From Diagnosis to Long-Term Management In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis program has been supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/QHH865. CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA credit will be available until October 21, 2026.Advancing PBC Care Through Timely Referral and Treatment: From Diagnosis to Long-Term Management In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis program has been supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/QHH865. CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA credit will be available until October 21, 2026.Advancing PBC Care Through Timely Referral and Treatment: From Diagnosis to Long-Term Management In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis program has been supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/QHH865. CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA credit will be available until October 21, 2026.Advancing PBC Care Through Timely Referral and Treatment: From Diagnosis to Long-Term Management In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis program has been supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/QHH865. CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA credit will be available until October 21, 2026.Advancing PBC Care Through Timely Referral and Treatment: From Diagnosis to Long-Term Management In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis program has been supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

This content has been developed for healthcare professionals only. Patients who seek health information should consult with their physician or relevant patient advocacy groups.For the full presentation, downloadable Practice Aids, slides, and complete CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA information, and to apply for credit, please visit us at PeerView.com/QHH865. CME/NCPD/CPE/AAPA credit will be available until October 21, 2026.Advancing PBC Care Through Timely Referral and Treatment: From Diagnosis to Long-Term Management In support of improving patient care, PVI, PeerView Institute for Medical Education, is jointly accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME), the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE), and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC), to provide continuing education for the healthcare team.SupportThis program has been supported by an independent educational grant from Gilead Sciences, Inc.Disclosure information is available at the beginning of the video presentation.

In this episode, Viktor Grünwald shares his journey through a remarkable career in oncology, his focus on urogenital cancers, and his hopes for the future of cancer treatment. From reflections on research to European Society for Medical Oncology (ESMO) 2025 predictions and the promise of precision medicine, Grünwald offers an insightful look at evolving therapies and the pursuit of higher cure rates.  Timestamps:   00:00 – Introduction  01:03 – Reflections on his career  02:06 – Balancing research, clinical duties, and teaching  03:10 – Specialising in urogenital cancers  04:50 – Viktor's hobbies and interests  05:47 – Current landscape of genitourinary cancers  09:09 – Treatment modalities  11:09 – The CLEAR study  12:54 – European Society for Medical Oncology (ESMO) 2025 predictions  15:57 – The potential of precision medicine  19:09 – Viktor's three wishes for healthcare     Disclosure: Grünwald has received honoraria from Bristol Myers Squibb, Ipsen, Eisai, MSD Oncology, Merck Serono, AstraZeneca, Advanced Accelerator Applications (acquired by Novartis), Astellas Pharma, Amgen, Johnson & Johnson/Janssen, Telix Pharmaceuticals, Gilead Sciences, and Roche; research funding from Amgen, MSD Oncology, Bristol Myers Squibb, Seattle Genetics (now Seagen; acquired by Pfizer), Ipsen, Gilead Sciences, Bicycle Therapeutics, Exelixis, Novartis, Roche, and Johnson & Johnson/Janssen, with payment to the institution; travel/accommodation/expenses from Pfizer, Janssen, Merck Serono, Ipsen, and Amgen; and held consulting or advisory roles for Bristol Myers Squibb, Pfizer, Novartis, MSD Oncology, Ipsen, Janssen-Cilag, Eisai, Debiopharm, Gilead Sciences, Oncorena, Synthekine, and Recordati.  The CLEAR study was sponsored Eisai and Merck Sharp & Dohmre. 

Dr. Hope Rugo and Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano discuss recent developments in the field of bispecific antibodies for hematologic and solid tumors, including strategies to optimize the design and delivery of the immunotherapy. TRANSCRIPT Dr. Hope Rugo: Hello and welcome to By the Book, a podcast series from ASCO that features engaging conversations between editors and authors of the ASCO Educational Book. I am your host, Dr. Hope Rugo. I am the director of the Women's Cancers Program and division chief of breast medical oncology at the City of Hope Cancer Center. I am also the editor-in-chief of the Educational Book. Bispecific antibodies represent an innovative and advanced therapeutic platform in hematologic and solid tumors. And today, I am delighted to be joined by Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano to discuss the current landscape of bispecific antibodies and their potential to reshape the future of precision oncology. Dr. Curigliano was the last author of an ASCO Educational Book piece for 2025 titled, "Bispecific Antibodies in Hematologic and Solid Tumors: Current Landscape and Therapeutic Advances." Dr. Curigliano is a breast medical oncologist and the director of the Early Drug Development Division and chair of the Experimental Therapeutics Program at the European Institute of Oncology in Milan. He is also a full professor of medical oncology at the University of Milan. You can find our disclosures in the transcript of this episode. Dr. Curigliano, Giuseppe, welcome and thanks for being here. Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano: Thanks a lot for the invitation. Dr. Hope Rugo: Giuseppe, I would like to first ask you to provide some context for our listeners on how these novel therapeutics work. And then perhaps you could tell us about recent developments in the field of bispecific antibodies for oncology. We are at a time when antibody-drug conjugates (ADCs) are all the rage and, trying to improve on the targeting of specific antigens, proteins, receptors in the field of oncology is certainly a hot and emerging topic. Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano: So, thanks a lot. I believe really it was very challenging to try to summarize all the bispecific antibodies that are under development in multiple solid tumors. So, the first thing that I would like to highlight is the context and the mechanism of action of bispecific antibodies. Bispecific antibodies represent a groundbreaking advancement in cancer immunotherapy, because these engineered molecules have the unique ability to target and simultaneously bind to two distinct antigens. That is why we call them bispecific. So typically, one antigen is expressed on the tumor cell and the other one is expressed on the immune effectors, like T-cell or natural killer cells. So this dual targeting mechanism offers several key advantages over conventional monoclonal antibodies because you can target at the same time the tumor antigen, downregulating the pathway of proliferation, and you can activate the immune system. So the primary mechanism through which bispecific antibodies exert their therapeutic effects are: First, T-cell redirecting. I mean, many bispecific antibodies are designed to engage tumor-associated antigens like epidermal growth factor receptor, HER2, on the cancer cell and a costimulatory molecule on the surface of T-cell. A typical target antigen on T-cell is CD3. So what does it mean? That you activate the immune system, immune cells will reach the tumor bed, and you have a dual effect. One is downregulating cell proliferation, the other one is activation of the immune system. This is really important in hematological malignancies, where we have a lot of bispecifics already approved, like acute lymphoblastic leukemia or non-Hodgkin lymphoma.  The second, in fact, is the engagement of the tumor microenvironment. So, if you engage immune effector cells like NK cells or macrophages, usually the bispecific antibodies can exploit the immune system's ability to recognize and kill the immune cells, even if there is a lack of optimal antigen presentation.  And finally, the last mechanism of action, this may have a role in the future, maybe in the early cancer setting, is overcoming immune evasion. So bispecific antibodies can overcome some of the immune evasion mechanisms that we see in cancer. For example, bispecific antibodies can target immune checkpoint receptors, like PD-L1 and CTLA-4. Actually, there is a bispecific under development in breast cancer that has a dual targeting on vascular endothelial growth factor receptor and on PD-L1. So you have a dual effect at the same time. So, what is really important, as a comment, is we need to focus first on the optimal format of the bispecific, the optimal half-life, the stability, because of course even if they are very efficient in inducing a response, they may give also a lot of toxicities. So in clinical trials already, we have several bispecifics approved. In solid tumors, very few, specifically amivantamab for non-small cell lung cancer, but we have a pipeline of almost 40 to 50 bispecifics under development in multiple solid tumors, and some of them are in the context of prospective randomized trials. Dr. Hope Rugo: So this is really a fascinating area and it's really exciting to see the expansion of the different targets for bispecific antibodies. One area that has intrigued me also is that some of the bispecifics actually will target different parts of the same receptor or the same protein, but presumably those will be used as a different strategy. It's interesting because we have seen that, for example, in targeting HER2. Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano: Oh, yes, of course. You may consider some bispecifics like margetuximab, I suppose, in which you can target specifically two different epitopes of the same antigen. This is really an example of how a bispecific can potentially be more active and downregulating, let us say, a pathway, by targeting two different domains of a specific target antigen. This is an important point.  Of course, not all the bispecifics work this way, because some of the target antigen may dimerize, and so you have a family of target antigen; an example is epidermal growth factor receptor, in which you have HER1, HER2, HER3, and HER4. So some of them can inhibit the dimerization between one target antigen and the other one, in order to exert a more antiproliferative effect. But to be honest, the new generation of them are more targeting two different antigens, one on the tumor and one on the microenvironment, because according to the clinical data, this is a more efficient way to reduce proliferation and to activate the immune system. Dr. Hope Rugo: Really interesting, and I think it brings us to the next topic, which is really where bispecific antibodies have already shown success, and that is in hematologic malignancies where we have seen very interesting efficacy and these are being used in the clinic already. But the expansion of bispecific antibodies into solid tumors faces some key challenges. It's interesting because the challenges come in different shapes and forms. Tell us about some of those challenges and strategies to optimize bispecific antibody design, delivery, patient selection, and how we are going to use these agents in the right kind of clinical trials. Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano: This is really an excellent question because despite bispecific antibodies having shown a remarkable efficacy in hematological malignancies, their application in solid tumors may have some challenges. The first one is tumor heterogeneity. In hematological malignancy, you have a clear oncogene addiction. Let us say that 90% of the cells may express the same antigen. In solid tumors, it is not the same. Tumor heterogeneity is a typical characteristic of solid tumors, and you have high heterogeneity at the genetic, molecular, and phenotypic levels. So tumor cells can differ significantly from one another, even if within the same tumor. And this heterogeneity sometimes makes it difficult to identify a single target antigen that is universally expressed in an hematological malignancy. So furthermore, sometimes the antigen expressed on a tumor cell can be also present on the normal tissue. And so you may have a cross-targeting. So let's say, if you have a bispecific against epidermal growth factor receptor, this will target the tumor but will target also the skin with a lot of toxicity. The second challenge is the tumor microenvironment. The solid tumor microenvironment is really complex and often immunosuppressive. It is characterized by the presence of immunosuppressor cells like the T regulators, myeloid derived suppressor cells, and of course the extracellular matrix. All these factors hinder immune cell infiltration and also may reduce dramatically the effectiveness of bispecific antibodies. And as you know, there is also an hypoxic condition in the tumor. The other challenge is related to the poor tumor penetration. As you know also with antibody-drug conjugate, only 1 to 3% of the drug will arrive in the tumor bed. Unlike hematological malignancies where tumor cells are dispersed in the blood and easily accessible, the solid tumors have a lot of barriers, and so it means that tumor penetration can be very low. Finally, the vascularity also of the tumor can be different across solid tumors. That is why some bispecifics have a vascular endothelial growth factor receptor or vascular endothelial growth factor as a target. Of course, what do we have to do to overcome these challenges? First, we have to select the optimal antigen. So knowing very well the biology of cancer and the tumor-associated antigens can really select a subgroup of epitopes that are specifically overexpressed in cancer cells. And so we need to design bispecifics according to the tumor type. Second, optimize the antibody format. So there are numerous bispecific antibody formats. We can consider the dual variable domain immunoglobulin, we specified this in our paper. The single chain variable fragments, so FC variable fragments, and the diabodies that can enhance both binding affinity and stability. And finally, the last point, combination therapies. Because bispecific antibodies targeting immune checkpoint, we have many targeting PD-1 or PD-L1 or CTLA-4, combined eventually with other immune checkpoint inhibitors. And so you may have more immunostimulating effect. Dr. Hope Rugo: This is a fascinating field and it is certainly going to go far in the treatment of solid tumors. You know, I think there is some competition with what we have now for antibody-drug conjugates. Do you see that bispecifics will eventually become bispecific ADCs? Are we going to combine these bispecific antibodies with ADCs, with chemotherapy? What is the best combination strategy do you think looking forward? Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano: So, yes, we have a bispecific ADC. We have actually some bispecifics that are conjugated with a payload of chemotherapy. Some others are conjugated with immunoactivation agents like IL-2. One of the most effective strategies for enhancing bispecific activity is the combination therapy. So which type of combination can we do? First, bispecific antibodies plus checkpoint inhibitors. If you combine a bispecific with an immune checkpoint, like anti-PD-1, anti-PD-L1, or anti-CTLA-4, you have more activity because you have activation of T-cells, reduction of immunosuppressive effect, and of course, the capability of this bispecific to potentiate the activity of the immune checkpoint inhibitor. So, in my opinion, in a non-small cell lung cancer with an expression of PD-L1 more than 50%, if you give pembrolizumab plus a bispecific targeting PD-L1, you can really improve both response rate and median progression-free survival.  Another combination is chemotherapy plus bispecific antibodies. Combining chemotherapy with bispecific can enhance the cytotoxic effect because chemotherapy induces immunogenic cell death, and then you boost with a bispecific in order to activate the immune system. Bispecific and CAR T-cells, until now, we believe that these are in competition, but this is not correct. Because CAR T-cells are designed to deliver an activation of the immune system with the same lymphocytes engineered of the patients, with a long-term effect. So I really do not believe that bispecifics are in competition with CAR T-cells because when you have a complete remission induced by CAR T-cell, the effect of this complete remission can last for years. The activity of a bispecific is a little bit different. So there are some studies actually combining CAR T-cells with bispecifics. For example, bispecific antibodies can direct CAR T-cells in the tumor microenvironment, improving their specificity and enhancing their therapeutic effect.  And finally, monoclonal antibody plus bispecific is another next generation activity. Because if you use bispecific antibodies in combination with existing monoclonal antibodies like anti-HER2, you can potentially increase the immune response and enhance tumor cell targeting. In hematological malignancies, this has been already demonstrated and this approach has been particularly effective. Dr. Hope Rugo: That's just so fascinating, the whole idea that we have these monoclonal antibodies and now we are going to add them to bispecifics that we could maybe attach on different toxins to try and improve this, or even give them with different approaches. I suppose giving an ADC with a bispecific would sort of be similar to that idea of giving a monoclonal antibody with the bispecific. So it is certainly intriguing. We also will need to understand the toxicity and cost overall and how we are going to use these, the duration of treatment, the assessment of biomarkers. There are just so many different aspects that still need to be explored.  And then with that idea, can you look ahead five or ten years from now, and tell us how you think bispecific antibodies will shape our next generation cancer therapies, how they will be incorporated into precision oncology, and the new combinations and approaches as we move forward that will help us tailor treatment for patients both with solid tumors and hematologic malignancies? Are we going to be giving these in early-stage disease in solid tumors? So far, the studies are primarily focusing on the metastatic setting, but obviously one of the goals when we have successful treatments is to move them into the early stage setting as quickly as possible. Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano: Let us try to look ahead five years rather than ten years, to be more realistic. So, personally I believe some bispecifics can potentially replace current approaches in specifically T-cell selected population. As we gather more data from ongoing clinical trials and we adopt a deeper understanding of the tumor immuno microenvironment, of course we may have potentially new achievement. A few days ago, we heard that bispecifics in triple negative breast cancer targeting VEGF and PD-L1 demonstrated an improvement in median progression-free survival.  So, how to improve and to impact on clinical practice both in the metastatic and in the early breast cancer setting or solid tumor setting? First, personalized antigen selection. So we need to have the ability to tailor bispecific antibody therapy to the unique tumor profile of individual patients. So the more we understand the biology of cancers, the more we will be able to better target. Second, bispecific antibodies should be combined. I can see in the future a potential trial in which you combine a bispecific anti-PD-L1 and VEGF with immune checkpoint inhibitor selected also to the level of expression of PD-L1, because integration of antibody bispecific with a range of immunotherapies, and this cannot be only immune checkpoint inhibitors, but can be CAR T-cells, oncolytic viruses, also targeted therapy, will likely be a dominant theme in the coming years. This combination will be based on the specific molecular and immuno feature of the cancer of the patient.  Then we need an enhanced delivery system. This is really important because you know now we have a next generation antibody. An example are the bicyclic. So you use FC fragment that are very short, with a low molecular weight, and this short fragment can be bispecific, so can target at the same time a target antigen and improving the immune system. And so the development of this novel delivery system, including also nanoparticles or engineered viral vectors, can enhance the penetration in the tumor bed and the bioavailability of bispecific antibodies. Importantly, we need to reduce toxicity. Until now, bispecifics are very toxic. So the more we are efficient in delivering in the tumor bed, the more we will reduce the risk of toxicity. So it will be mandatory to reduce off-target effects and to minimize toxicity.  And finally, the expansion in new indication. So I really believe you raised an excellent point. We need to design studies in the neoadjuvant setting in order to better understand with multiple biopsies which is the effect on the tumor microenvironment and the tumor itself, and to generate hypotheses for potential trials or in the neoadjuvant setting or in those patients with residual disease.  So, in my opinion, as we refine design, optimize patient selection, and explore new combination, in the future we will have more opportunity to integrate bispecifics in the standard of care. Dr. Hope Rugo: I think it is particularly helpful to hear what we are going to be looking for as we move forward to try and improve efficacy and reduce toxicity. And the ability to engineer these new antibodies and to more specifically target the right proteins and immune effectors is going to be critical, of course, moving forward, as well as individualizing therapy based on a specific tumor biology.  Hearing your insights has been great, and it really has opened up a whole area of insight into the field of bispecifics, together with your excellent contribution to the ASCO Educational Book. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and background, as well as what we might see in the future on this podcast today. Dr. Giuseppe Curigliano: Thank you very much for the invitation and for this excellent interview. Dr. Hope Rugo: And thanks to our listeners for joining us today. You will find a link to the Ed Book article we discussed today in the transcript of this episode. It is also, of course, on the ASCO website, as well as on PubMed. Please join us again next month on By the Book for more insightful views on the key issues and innovations that are shaping modern oncology. Disclaimer: The purpose of this podcast is to educate and to inform. This is not a substitute for professional medical care and is not intended for use in the diagnosis or treatment of individual conditions. Guests on this podcast express their own opinions, experience and conclusions. Guest statements on the podcast do not express the opinions of ASCO. The mention of any product, service, organization, activity or therapy should not be construed as an ASCO endorsement. 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Dr. Monty Pal and Dr. Matteo Lambertini discuss a compelling global study on the clinical behavior of breast cancer in young BRCA1 and BRCA2 carriers, the association of pre-diagnostic awareness of BRCA status with prognosis, and the importance of identifying healthy people who are at risk of carrying the BRCA1/2 pathogenic variants. TRANSCRIPT Dr. Monty Pal: Well, hello everyone, and welcome to the ASCO Daily News Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Monty Pal. I'm a medical oncologist, professor, and vice chair of medical oncology at the City of Hope Comprehensive Cancer Center in Los Angeles. Now, when we think about genetic testing, whether for patients diagnosed with breast cancer or for other family members of them, it seems to be widely underutilized. Today, we're going to be discussing a recently published study in the Journal of Clinical Oncology that reported on the clinical behavior of breast cancer and specifically young BRCA1 and BRCA2 carriers, and the association of pre-diagnostic awareness of BRCA status with prognosis. I thought this was just a fascinating piece, and I honestly couldn't wait to have this conversation. It's a really compelling paper that highlights the importance of identifying healthy people who are at risk of carrying the BRCA1/2 pathogenic variants, and really the need for genetic counseling and testing to inform people about early detection that could lead to a better prognosis. I'm really delighted to welcome the study's lead author, Dr. Matteo Lambertini. He really needs no introduction. He's very well known in the breast cancer world for his amazing contributions to fertility in the context of breast cancer, to pregnancy in the context of breast cancer, and genetic testing. He's an associate professor at the University of Genova, and a breast cancer medical oncologist at the San Martino Polyclinic Hospital in Genova, Italy.  Dr. Lambertini, thank you so much for joining us today. Dr. Matteo Lambertini: Thank you very much, Dr. Pal. It's a great pleasure. Dr. Monty Pal: Oh, thanks. And just FYI, if you're listening in and you want to hear our disclosures, they're all listed at the transcript of this podcast.  So, I poured through this paper [Clinical Behavior of Breast Cancer in Young BRCA Carriers and Prediagnostic Awareness of Germline BRCA Status] yesterday, Dr. Lambertini, and first of all, congratulations on this study. This was a huge international multicenter effort, 4,752 patients. How did you pool all these patients with young breast cancer? Dr. Matteo Lambertini: Thanks a lot for the question. Yes, this was an effort made by several centers all over the world. The main idea behind the creation of this network that we have named as BRCA BCY Collaboration, was to get as many data as possible in a sort of niche patient population in the breast cancer field, meaning women diagnosed with breast cancer at the age of 40 years or younger, and all of them being BRCA carriers. We know that around, in the Western world, around 5% of breast cancer cases are being diagnosed under the age of 40 years, and among them around 10-15% are BRCA carriers. So, I would say it's a relatively rare patient population where we did not have a lot of evidence to support our choices in terms of counseling on treatment, prevention, and oncofertility as well. That was the idea behind the creation of this network that includes many centers. Dr. Monty Pal: Yeah. You know, what's so interesting about this is that you sort of draw this line between patients who have BRCA testing at the time of diagnosis and then BRCA testing earlier in their course and then leading to a diagnosis perhaps. And I think that's where really sort of the dichotomy in outcome sits. Can you maybe elaborate on this and tell us about timing of genetic testing in this study and what that meant ultimately in terms of prognosis? Dr. Matteo Lambertini: In this specific analysis from this large network, including almost 5,000 women with breast cancer diagnosed at the age of 40 years or younger and being a BRCA carrier, we looked specifically into the timing of genetic testing because this is a retrospective study and the criteria for inclusion are those that I have just mentioned, so diagnosis at a young age plus carrying germline BRCA pathogenic or likely pathogenic variant. In this analysis, we have looked into the time the patient has got the genetic testing and particular we focused on two populations: those that were diagnosed, knowing already to be a BRCA carrier, and those that got tested after being diagnosed with breast cancer. And the main findings from this analysis have been that knowing to be a BRCA carrier was associated with a lower stage at the time of diagnosis, meaning more T1 tumors, so a tumor less than 2 cm, more node-negative disease, and this translated into less aggressive treatment, so less often axillary dissection, less often use of chemotherapy and anthracycline-based chemotherapy. And even more importantly, we have seen a better overall survival for those patients that were diagnosed already knowing to be BRCA carriers as compared to those tested after breast cancer diagnosis. These results after adjusting for all the confounding, stage, treatment and so on, there was not significant anymore, meaning that it's not the timing of test per se that is probably leading to a better survival, but it is the fact that knowing to be a BRCA carrier would likely translate into having access to all the preventive measures that we have in this setting and this will translate into an overall survival benefit, so in terms of saving more lives in young BRCA carriers. Dr. Monty Pal: I think it's such an important point, and it's one that I think might sound implicit, right, but it needs to be proven, I think, through a study like this. You know, the fact that finding this early, identifying the mutation, doing enhanced screening, and so forth, is really going to lead to superior clinical outcomes. One of the things that I think many people puzzle over, including myself, is what to do? I personally occasionally will see BRCA altered patients in the context of prostate cancer. But that's a very different population of individuals, right? Typically older men. In young females with BRCA mutation, I guess there's a specific set of considerations around reproductive health. You'd already highlighted preventive strategies, but what sorts of things should we be talking about in the clinics once a patient's diagnosed and once perhaps their breast cancer diagnosis is established? Dr. Matteo Lambertini: Yes, exactly. Knowing to be a BRCA carrier has a lot of implications from prevention to treatment to survivorship issues including reproductive counseling. And this is important not only for the patient that has been diagnosed with breast cancer but also for all the family members that will get tested and maybe identify with this sort of genetic alteration before diagnosis of cancer. Why this is important is because we have access to very effective preventive measures, a few examples: MRI screening, which starts at a very young age and normally young women don't have an effective screening strategy outside the BRCA field. Also, primary preventive measures, for example, risk-reducing surgery. These women are known to have a high risk of breast cancer and high risk of ovarian cancer. So the guidelines are suggesting to undergo risk-reducing salpingo-oophorectomy at a young age, so 35 to 40 years in BRCA1 carrier, 40 to 45 years in BRCA2 carrier. And also risk-reducing mastectomy should be discussed because it is a very effective way to prevent the occurrence of breast cancer. And in some situations, including the setting that we are talking about, so young women with breast cancer, BRCA carrier, also risk-reducing mastectomy has shown to improve overall survival.  On the other side, once diagnosed with breast cancer, nowadays knowing to be or not a BRCA carrier can make a difference in terms of treatment. We have PARP inhibitors in the early setting, in the adjuvant setting as well as in the metastatic setting. And in terms of survivorship implication, one of the critical aspects for young women is the oncofertility care which is even more complicated when we talk about BRCA carriers that are women candidates for gynecological surgery at a very young age. So this sort of counseling is even more complicated. Dr. Monty Pal: One of the other things, and this is subtle in your paper and I hope you don't mind me bringing it up, is the difference between BRCA1 and BRCA2. It really got me thinking about that because there are differences in phenotype and manifestation. Do you mind just expanding on that a little bit for the audience because I think that's a really important reminder that you brought up in the discussion? Dr. Matteo Lambertini: The difference between BRCA1 and BRCA2 carriers has been known that there are different phenotypes of breast cancer that are more often diagnosed in these two different populations. Normally BRCA1 carriers have a higher likelihood to develop a triple negative breast cancer as compared to BRCA2 carriers, more likely to develop a hormone receptor-positive HER2-negative disease. In this study, again, a specific population of young women with breast cancer, we have seen the same findings, mostly triple negative disease in BRCA1 carrier, mostly luminal-like disease in BRCA2 carrier. But what's novel or interesting from this study is to look also at the age at the time of diagnosis of this disease. And particularly in BRCA1 carriers, we should be sort of more careful about diagnosis of breast cancer and also other primary tumors including ovarian cancer because the risk of developing these malignancies is higher even at a younger age as compared to BRCA2 carriers. And this has implications also in the primary and secondary prevention that we were talking about earlier. Dr. Monty Pal: Oh, interesting. I guess the fundamental question then from your paper becomes, how do we get at the right patients for screening for BRCA1 and BRCA2? And I realize our audience here is largely oncologists who are going to be listening to this podcast, oncology providers, MDs, nurses, etc. But maybe speak for a moment to the general practitioner. Are there things that, for instance, a general practitioner should be looking for to say, “Wait a minute, this patient's high risk, we should consider BRCA1, BRCA2 testing or germline screening”? Dr. Matteo Lambertini: Yes, it's a very important question for the breast cancer community. After the updated ASCO guideline, the counseling is way easier because right now the age cutoff goes up to 65 years, meaning that all the patients diagnosed with breast cancer below the age of 65 years should be tested these days. And then above the age of 65, there are different criteria like triple-negative disease or family history. From a general practitioner standpoint, it's of course a bit more difficult, but knowing particularly the family history of the person that they have in front will be crucial to know if there are cases of breast cancer diagnosed at a young age, maybe triple-negative cases, knowing cases of ovarian cancer in first-degree relatives or pancreatic cancer in first-degree relatives, and of course cases of prostate cancer as well. So, I would say probably mostly the family side will be important from a general practitioner perspective.  From an oncology one, the other point that I think is important to stress also based on the data that we have shown in this publication is that having a case of breast cancer known to carry a BRCA pathogenic or likely pathogenic variant. It means that all the people around this case should get tested and if found to be BRCA carrier and healthy carrier, these people should also undergo the primary and secondary prevention strategies because this is very critical also to improve their outcomes and try to avoid the developing of breast or ovarian cancer, but also in the case of diagnosis of this disease, a diagnosis at an earlier stage, as we have seen in this paper. Dr. Monty Pal: Brilliant. I'm going to diverge from our list of questions here and close by asking a question that I have at the top of my mind. You're very young. I know our podcast listeners can't see you, but you're very, very young. Dr. Matteo Lambertini: Thank you. Thank you for that. Not so young but yeah. Dr. Monty Pal: You have nearly 300 papers. Your H-index is 67. You've already made these seminal contributions, as I outlined it from the outset, regarding fertility, regarding use of GnRH analogs, regarding pregnancy and breast cancer. What are you studying now? What are you really excited about right now that you're doing that you think might potentially be practice changing? Give us a little teaser. Dr. Matteo Lambertini: Yeah. Thanks a lot, Dr. Pal. Receiving this compliment from you is fantastic. So, thanks a lot for that. From my side, in terms of my research, I've been interested in the field of breast cancer in young women since the start of my training. I've had very good mentors from Italy, from Europe, from the U.S. I'm still interested in this field, so I think we still have a lot to learn to try to improve the care of young women with breast cancer. For example, the oncofertility care, which is something I worked a lot over the past years. Now with all the new treatment options, there's a sort of new chapter of oncofertility counseling. So, what's the impact of immunotherapy? What's the impact of the new targeted agents?  More on the genetic aspects, now we know that there's not only BRCA1 or BRCA2. There are a lot of other different genes that may increase the risk of breast cancer and other malignancies. And also for these genes, we really don't have a lot of evidence to counsel women on prognosis, treatment, prevention strategy. So we need to learn way more for this special patient population that are quite rare, and so we really need a multicenter academic effort to try to give some evidence in this field. Dr. Monty Pal: Yeah. It's tough because these are rare circumstances, but, you know, I think that you've done really well to sort of define some collective experiences that I think really define therapy. I mean, I just remember when I was in training 25 years ago, just reading through textbooks where all the experience around breast cancer and pregnancy was really just very sort of anecdotal almost, you know? And so it's great to see that the state of the science has moved forward.  Well, gosh, I really enjoyed our conversation today. I think your study really reminds us how powerful genetic information is in terms of improving outcomes. And, you know, hopefully this will lead some individuals to perhaps test more broadly in appropriate settings. So, thank you so much, Matteo, for joining us today with your fantastic insights on the ASCO Daily News Podcast. Dr. Matteo Lambertini: Thank you very much, Dr. Pal. It's a real pleasure. Dr. Monty Pal: And thanks to our listeners too. 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JCO PO authors Dr. Abhishek Tripathi and Dr. Salvador Jaime-Casas at City of Hope Comprehensive Cancer Center share insights into their article, “Comparative Genomic Characterization of Small Cell Carcinoma of the Bladder Compared With Urothelial Carcinoma and Small Cell Lung Carcinoma.”  Host Dr. Rafeh Naqash and Drs. Tripathi and Jaime-Casas discuss a novel understanding of the genomic alterations underlying SCBC, revealing actionable mutations that could serve as potential targets for improved clinical outcomes. TRANSCRIPT Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Hello and welcome to JCO Precision Oncology Conversations, where we bring you engaging conversations with authors of clinically relevant and highly significant JCO PO articles. I am your host, Dr. Dr. Rafeh Naqash, Podcast Editor for JCO Precision Oncology and Associate Professor at the OU Health Stephenson Cancer Center at the University of Oklahoma. Today, I am thrilled to be joined by Dr. Abhishek Tripathi, Associate Professor in the Department of Medical Oncology and Experimental Therapeutics Research at the City of Hope Comprehensive Cancer Center, as well as his mentee, Dr. Salvador Jaime-Casas, postdoctoral research fellow and first author of the JCO Precision Oncology article entitled "Comparative Genomic Characterization of Small Cell Carcinoma of the Bladder Compared with Urothelial Carcinoma and Small Cell Lung Carcinoma". At the time of this recording, our guest disclosures will be linked in the transcript. Abhishek and Salvador, welcome to our podcast and thank you for joining us today. This is a very interesting topic given that at least the landscape for neuroendocrine carcinomas, where small cell lung cancer is on one end of the spectrum, has been changing, at least on the lung cancer side, with recent approvals and some new ADCs. So, of course, understanding the genomic and transcriptomic similarities or differences between pulmonary small cell and extrapulmonary small cell is of huge interest. Could you tell us a little bit about small cell bladder cancer, current approaches to treatment of small cell bladder cancer, and then why you wanted to investigate that in this project as far as the genomic differences or similarities are concerned? Dr. Salvador Jaime-Casas: Well, first of all, thank you very much for having me. I am very excited to be here. And really what served as backbone for this research project was the notion that there is a currently evolving genomic landscape in the area of bladder cancer. We know this is a highly heterogeneous disease when it comes to molecular underpinnings and mutational profile. Specifically, we know that the most common histologic subtype is urothelial carcinoma. Small cell bladder cancer represents a histology that is found in less than 1% of all bladder cancer cases. However, it is one of the most aggressive histologies. It presents with a very poor prognosis to patients and very poor response to treatment, which is why we attempted to really elucidate what is the mutational profile behind this and provide a comparison contrast between small cell bladder cancer, small cell lung cancer, and conventional urothelial carcinoma. As your question mentioned, in terms of treatment, the conventional urothelial carcinoma and small cell bladder cancer are two distinct pathways when it comes to treatment algorithms. We know that in the current era there are newer and newer drugs being developed for conventional urothelial carcinoma. We have perioperative immunotherapy in the context of metastatic disease. We have antibody-drug conjugates such as enfortumab vedotin. But really, this amazing track record of drug development hasn't been mirrored in small cell bladder cancer. And here most of the therapy is usually extrapolated from studies from other small cell histologies like you mentioned earlier, small cell lung cancer has given some form of background in terms of what therapies are used here. Cytotoxic chemotherapy, for some patients with localized disease and small cell bladder cancer, concurrent chemotherapy and radiotherapy or perioperative cytotoxic chemotherapy have been the cornerstone of treatment for many years now. However, like I mentioned, the oncologic outcomes are very suboptimal when it comes to comparing it with other disease histologies, which is why we really wanted to describe the landscape here and provide this comparison across three different groups. For this particular study, we leveraged the Tempus dataset. So, include patients with urothelial carcinoma with small cell bladder cancer and small cell lung cancer. We included their demographic information, as well as the frequency of most common genomic alterations identified. And really, it was a very comparable Table 1. We see the demographic data across the three groups was very similar. One key thing that we identified was the female prevalence was a little bit lower in patients with small cell bladder cancer when compared to small cell lung cancer. But other than that, the age, race, ethnicity, was comparable across groups, and even the smoking history. Most of the patients in this cohort were former smokers, which we believe comes to explain that regardless of any mutational profile that we talked about in a few minutes, there are shared commonalities between these histologies and shared environmental exposures and risk factors that are going to be implicated in the disease biology for these three histologies. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Thank you so much, Salvador, for that useful background. I would like to shift to Abhishek real quick. Abhishek, you are a practicing clinician, you have led several studies in the GU space, especially bladder. Based on what you see in the small cell lung cancer space, how drug development is shaping up, which aligns with what you are trying to evaluate in this paper as targets, how do you see some of that being implemented for small cell bladder cancer in the current era and age? Abhishek Tripathi: Thanks so much for the excellent question, Rafeh. As a GU investigator, small cell bladder cancer has always lagged behind in some regards regarding enrollment abilities for the novel clinical trials. And small cell lung cancer has paved the way and led the development of a lot of these drugs across the board. With the most recent sort of drugs targeting DLL3 already approved and several antibody-drug conjugates currently in development. That actually translates really well to how we should approach drug development in bladder cancer. What we saw in the study is that although there are overlaps and similarities between small cell lung cancer and small cell bladder cancer, there are also certain differences. So the long-term assumption that all therapies for small cell bladder cancer can be extrapolated to small cell bladder], may or may not be true, and I think it is high time that we specifically investigate these novel agents in tissue-specific small cell carcinomas. To that effect, we are excited to be participating in trials that are looking at some of the novel DLL3 targeted agents, specifically bispecific antibodies and T cell engagers so to speak, and antibody-drug conjugates that are now starting to open enrollment specifically in non-lung cancer cohorts to evaluate its efficacy. So overall, I think studies like this have the opportunity to identify more putative targets for organ-specific development of these novel agents. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Absolutely, I could not agree more. I think tumor-agnostic therapies definitely have a place, but not all therapies work the same in different tumors with a similar histological or genomic background because there are definitely differences. So now going to the comparison that Salvador, you guys did in this project, could you help us understand what are some of the things you looked at, what were some of the commonalities and the differences, and what were some of the conceptual thoughts that come out from those results? Dr. Salvador Jaime-Casas: Of course. So, the first thing that we identified was which were the most frequent molecular alterations across these histologies. We actually provided a table showcasing how the most common mutations that we identified were TP53, TERT, RB1. However, like Dr. Tripathi mentioned, the distinction between these histologies is notable in the sense that some are more predominant in small cell-pertaining cancers such as bladder cancer and lung cancer. While some others are more common in bladder-pertaining malignancies like urothelial carcinoma and small cell bladder cancer. For instance, we saw that TP53 and RB1 were significantly more evident in small cell histologies, both small cell bladder cancer and small cell lung cancer, as opposed to conventional urothelial carcinoma, which really this mirrors what is known about these mutations and what has been published. These are markers associated with more aggressive disease with a worse prognosis and even to resistance to treatment. We also identified how TERT mutations were characteristically more prevalent in small cell bladder cancer as opposed to small cell lung cancer, as well as in urothelial carcinoma. TERT mutations were more commonly identified than in small cell lung cancer. And we give a long list of these mutations that we identified, but really what we wanted to underscore here was, A, the most common mutations across histologies; B, the most common co-occurring mutations where we saw that these are not mutually exclusive. A lot of patients had co-occurring TP53 and RB1 or RB1 and TERT or RB1 and ARID1A, really elucidating how heterogeneous this molecular landscape is across histologies. And the third one that we believe really brings down the clinical impact of this research was evidencing the idea of clinically actionable mutations. We also provided a table here showcasing how mutations like FGFR, DLL notch pathway, HER2, were evident in these histologies, and what is the current status of some clinical trials evaluating different drug designs for these mutations. Like Dr. Tripathi mentioned in the context of FGFR, approximately 6% of our cohort with small cell bladder cancer showcased mutations in FGFR3. However, up to 14% of them had mutations in any FGFR gene, which really underscores the notion that drugs like erdafitinib, which have been introduced in the market in recent years, could potentially showcase some response in the space of small cell bladder cancer. We actually provide the description of two trials, phase two, phase three trials, that are evaluating erdafitinib in the context of high-risk non-muscle invasive bladder cancer and even metastatic urothelial carcinoma. Like Dr. Tripathi mentioned as well, antibody-drug conjugates, another very interesting area of drug development targeting HER2, we included evidence on how disitamab vedotin and trastuzumab deruxtecan are currently being explored across different phase two and phase three clinical trials, both as part of basket trial designs for solid malignancies expressing HER2, but also for patients with urothelial carcinoma where there is evidence of HER2 expression. So, we believe that the landscape is shifting in the right direction in the sense that therapies are becoming much more personalized and targeted against these known molecular profiles. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Thank you, Salvador, for summarizing some of those very interesting results and providing a very unique conceptual context to that. I would like to go to Abhishek this last portion. Of course, I am sure you guys will expand on this work and there are a lot of other interesting things that will likely come out from this work and hopefully you will publish that in JCO PO. But one of the very important things that I wanted to highlight from this podcast specifically was the science is obviously very interesting, but I feel the more important interesting aspect is giving trainees and fellows, residents, mentorship opportunities, mentoring them and giving them lead roles in projects like this, which is what Dr. Tripathi has successfully done for you in this project, Salvador. So, Abhishek, as somebody I have known for a couple of years now, more than a couple of years, as a very successful clinical translational investigator in the GU space in the early phase setting, Abhishek, really briefly, within a minute, could you tell us about your journey and what are some of the things that have worked for you as an early career investigator that you have learned from, and then your journey of mentorship, how has that been for you and what are some of the things that you take home from your mentorship role? Abhishek Tripathi: Absolutely. And as you mentioned, mentorship has been pivotal for all early career investigators for them to really succeed. So, my journey, as you know, I started off as an early career investigator at another institution, and I think I owe it to my mentors even at that time and even now who are helping me develop some of these newer translational and clinical trial ideas, creating opportunities where we could really showcase some of the interesting work that we are doing. That actually goes a long way in terms of creating independence as an established investigator. And I think the sooner we start off with mentorship prospects, I think the better it is. And paying it forward, I think I have been lucky to have mentees like Salvador who are just extremely talented, really committed, and goal-oriented. He really led the project right from the beginning in terms of initial analyses and looking up all the sort of correlative studies that we could do and the contextual data between small cell lung cancer and bladder cancer that we have delved into for the past several years. And it really showcases the ability of young mentees like Salvador to really excel given the right guidance and the support. As a mentor, it has been a really rewarding experience. It is really helpful to actually learn from some of these mentees as well as to approach the same problem from a different angle and different thought process and guide them through the study. So, it has been incredibly helpful and rewarding both being a mentee and a mentor over the past several years as I have transitioned. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Thank you, Abhishek, for those very insightful comments on how both being a mentee and being a mentor helps shape you as an individual as well. And then you take a lot of pride in the success of your mentees. Now real quick, Salvador, could you tell us a little bit about yourself, you know, how you ended up at City of Hope under Dr. Tripathi's mentorship and what are some of the next important things that you are looking forward to doing? Dr. Salvador Jaime-Casas: So, a little bit about who I am. I did medical school in Mexico City. I was born and raised there, and towards the end of my medical training, I started to be engaged in research projects. And through one of my mentors in Mexico, I was actually introduced to the team here at City of Hope, including Dr. Tripathi. And through this, we got the opportunity to have some conversations about what I wanted to do, become a physician-researcher in the area of genitourinary oncology and hopefully my transition to residency in a few years. And that is how I came to be his mentee here at City of Hope. I think it has been a very rewarding experience, like Dr. Tripathi said, having such an incredible mentor and really being with him both in the academic setting and in the clinical setting, in patients with clinic, seeing this curiosity and all these clinical trials, all of this evidence that we have coming together to generate this insight. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Thank you so much for both the scientific insights, as well as the journey of being a mentee for you, Salvador, and as a mentor for you, Abhishek. I really enjoyed talking to you guys about both aspects here today and hopefully we will see more of your work, Abhishek and Salvador, as far as understanding the transcriptomic heterogeneity in neuroendocrine tumors or neuroendocrine cancers of the bladder. Dr. Salvador Jaime-Casas: Thank you very much. Thank you for having us. Dr. Rafeh Naqash: Thank you for listening to JCO Precision Oncology Conversations. Do not forget to give us a rating or review and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can find all ASCO shows at ASCO.org/podcasts. The purpose of this podcast is to educate and to inform. This is not a substitute for professional medical care and is not intended for use in the diagnosis or treatment of individual conditions. Guests on this podcast express their own opinions, experience and conclusions. Guest statements on the podcast do not express the opinions of ASCO. The mention of any product, service, organization, activity or therapy should not be construed as an ASCO endorsement.   Dr. Abhishek Tripathi Disclosures Consulting or Advisory Role:  Company: Aadi biosciences, Seattle Genetics/Astellas, Exelixis, Bayer, Gilead Sciences, Pfizer, Deka biosciences Speakers' Bureau: Company: Sanofi

Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal and Dr. Petros Grivas discuss innovative new intravesical therapies and other recent advances in the treatment of non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. TRANSCRIPT Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: Hello and welcome. I'm Dr. Monty Pal here at the ASCO Daily News Podcast. I'm a medical oncologist and professor and vice chair of academic affairs at the City of Hope Comprehensive Cancer Center in Los Angeles. And I'm really delighted to be your new host here. Today's episode is going to really sort of focus on an area near and dear to my heart, something I actually see in the clinics, and that's bladder cancer. We're specifically going to be discussing non-muscle invasive bladder cancer, which actually comprises about 75% of new cases. Now, in recent years, there's been a huge shift towards personalized bladder-preserving strategies, including innovative therapies and new agents that really are reducing reliance on more primitive techniques like radical cystectomy and radiation therapy. And I'm really excited about this new trend. And really at the forefront of this is one of my dear friends and colleagues, Dr. Petros Grivas. He's a professor in the Department of Medicine and Division of Hematology Oncology at the University of Washington. It's going to take a while to get through all these titles. He's taken on a bunch of new roles. He is medical director of the International Program, medical director of the Local and Regional Outreach Program, and also professor in the Clinical Research Division at the Fred Hutch Cancer Center. Petros, welcome to the program. Dr. Petros Grivas: Thank you so much, Monty. It's exciting for me to be here. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: Just FYI for our audience, our disclosures are available in the transcript of this episode.  We're going to get right into it, Petros. Non-muscle invasive bladder cancer, this is a really, really challenging space. We see a lot of recurrence and progression of the disease over time, about 50% to 70% of patients do have some recurrence after initial treatment, and about 30% are ultimately going to progress on to muscle-invasive or metastatic disease. Now, I will say that when you and I were in training, non-muscle invasive bladder cancer was something that was almost relegated to the domain of the urologist, right? They would use treatments such as BCG (Bacillus Calmette-Guérin) in a serial fashion. It was rare, I think, for you and I to really enter into this clinical space, but that's all changing, isn't it? I mean, can you maybe tell us about some of the new therapies, two or three that you're really excited about in this space? Dr. Petros Grivas: Monty, you're correct. Traditionally and conventionally, our dear friends and colleagues in urology have been managing patients with non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. The previous term was superficial bladder cancer. Now, it has changed, to your point, to non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. And this has to do with the staging of this entity. These tumors in superficial layers of bladder cancer, not invading the muscularis propria, the muscle layer, which makes the bladder contract for urine to be expelled. As you said, these patients have been treated traditionally with intravesical BCG, one of the oldest forms of immunotherapy that was developed back in the 1970s, and this is a big milestone of immunotherapy development. However, over the years, in the last 50 years, there were not many options for patients in whom the cancers had progression or recurrence, came back after this intravesical BCG. Many of those patients were undergoing, and many of them still may be undergoing, what we call radical cystectomy, meaning removal of the bladder and the lymph nodes around the bladder. The development of newer agents over the last several years has given the patients the option of having other intravesical therapies, intravesical meaning the delivery of drugs, medications inside the bladder, aiming to preserve the bladder, keep the bladder in place. And there are many examples of those agents. Just to give you some examples, intravesical chemotherapy, chemotherapy drugs that you and me may be giving intravenously, some of them can be given inside the bladder, intravesical installation. One example of that is a combination of gemcitabine and docetaxel. These drugs are given in sequence one after the other inside the bladder, and they have seen significant efficacy, good results, again, helping patients keeping the bladder when they can for patients with what we call BCG unresponsive non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. And again, there's criteria that the International Bladder Cancer Group and the FDA developed, how to define when BCG fails, when we have BCG unresponsive non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: And we're actually going to get into some of the FDA requirements and development pathways and so forth. What I'm really interested in hearing, and I'm sure our audience is too, are maybe some of the new intravesical treatments that are coming around. I do think it's exciting that the gemcitabine and docetaxel go into the bladder indeed, but what are some of the top new therapies? Pick two or three that you're excited about that people should be looking out for in this intravesical space. Dr. Petros Grivas: For sure, for sure. In terms of the new up-and-coming therapies, there are a couple that come to mind. One of them is called TAR-200, T-A-R 200. This agent is actually a very interesting system. It's an intravesical delivery of a chemotherapy called gemcitabine, the one that I just mentioned a few minutes ago, that is actually being delivered through what we call a pretzel, which is like a rounded [pretzel-shaped] structure working like an osmotic pump, and that is being delivered inside the bladder intravesically by urologists. And this drug is releasing, through the osmotic release mechanism, this chemotherapeutic drug, gemcitabine, inside the bladder. And this can be replaced once every 3 weeks in the beginning. And the data so far from early-phase trials are really, really promising, showing that this agent may be potentially regulatory approved down the road. So TAR-200 is something to keep in mind. And similarly, in the same context, there is a different drug that also uses the same mechanism, and this osmotic release, this pretzel, it's just encoded with a different agent. The different agent is an FGFR inhibitor, a target therapy called erdafitinib, a drug that you and me may give in patients with metastatic urothelial carcinoma if they have an FGFR3 mutation or fusion. And that drug is called TAR-210. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: And can I ask you, in that setting, do you have to have an FGFR3 mutation to receive it? Or what is the context there? Dr. Petros Grivas: So for TAR-210, TAR-2-1-0, usually there is a checking to see if there is an FGFR3 mutation or fusion. And the big question, Monty, is do we have adequate tissue, right? From a limited tissue on what we call the TURBT, right, that urologists do. And now there is a lot of development in technology, for example, urine circulating tumor DNA to try to detect these mutations in the urine to see whether the patient may be eligible for this TAR-210. Both of those agents are not FDA approved, but there are significant promising clinical trials. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: So now let's go to a rapid-fire round. Give us two more agents that you're excited about in this intravesical space. What do you think? Dr. Petros Grivas: There is another one called cretostimogene. It's a long name. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: They really make these names very easy for us, don't they? Dr. Petros Grivas: They are not Greek names, Monty, I can tell you, you know. Even my Greek language is having trouble pronouncing them. The cretostimogene, it's actually almost what we call a growth factor, a GM-CSF. The actual name of this agent is CG0070. This is a replicating mechanism where GM-CSF is replicating in cells. And this agent has shown significant results again, like the TAR-200, in BCG unresponsive non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. I would say very quickly, two agents that actually were recently approved and they're already available in clinical practice, is nadofaragene firadenovec, another long name. That's a non-replicating vector that has the gene of interferon alfa-2b that stimulates the immune system in the bladder. It's given once every 3 months. And the last one that was, as I mentioned, already FDA approved, it's an interleukin-15 superagonist. It's another long name, which is hard to pronounce, but I will give it a try. It's a drug that was recently actually approved also in the UK. The previous name was N-803. It's given together with BCG as a combination for BCG unresponsive non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: This is a huge dilemma, I think, right? Because if you're a practicing, I'm going to say urologist for the moment, I guess the challenge is how do you decide between an IL-15 superagonist? How do you decide between a pretzel-eluting agent? How do you decide between that and maybe something that's ostensibly, I'm going to guess, cheaper, like gemcitabine and docetaxel? What's sort of the current thinking amongst urologists? Dr. Petros Grivas: Multiple factors play into our account when the decision is being made. I discuss with urologists all the time. It's not an easy decision because we do not have head-to-head comparisons between those agents. As you mentioned, intravesical chemotherapy with gemcitabine and docetaxel has been used over the years and this is the lowest cost, I would say, the cheapest option with good efficacy results. Obviously, the nadofaragene firadenovec every 3 months and the interleukin-15 superagonist, N-803, plus BCG have also been approved. The question is availability of those agents, are they available? Are they reimbursed? Cost of those agents can come into play. Frequency of administration, you know, once every 3 months versus more frequent. And of course, the individual efficacy and toxicity data, preference of the patients; sometimes the provider, the urologist, may have something that they may be more familiar with. But we lack this head-to-head comparison. Of course, I want to make sure I mention that radical cystectomy may still be the option for appropriate patients. So that complicates also the decision making and has to be individualized, customized, and personalized, taking into account all those factors. And there is not one size fitting all. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: So I think we discussed five intravesical therapies. As you point out, and you know, I'm going to get some calls about this: I think I referred to radical cystectomy as being a more primitive procedure. Not true at all. I think it's something that still is, you know, a mainstay of management in this disease space. But I guess it gets even more complicated, am I right, Petros? Because now we have systemic therapies that we can actually apply in this non-muscle invasive setting for at this point, refractory disease. Can you maybe just give us a quick two-minute primer on that? Dr. Petros Grivas: Absolutely, and systemic therapies now come into play, as you said. And a classical example of that, Monty, came from the KEYNOTE-057 trial that we published about 6 years ago. This is intravenous pembrolizumab, given intravascularly, intravenously, as opposed to the previously discussed intravesical administration of agents. Pembrolizumab was tested in that KEYNOTE-057 trial and showed efficacy about, I would say, one out of five patients, about 20%, had a complete response of the tumor in the bladder in a year after starting the treatment. Again, it's hard to compare across different agents, but obviously when we give something intravenously, there is a risk of toxicity, side effects systemically, what we call immune-related adverse events. And this can also play in the decision making, right? When you have intravesical agents versus intravascular agents, there is different toxicity profiles in terms of systemic toxicity. But intravenous pembrolizumab has been an option, FDA approved, since, if I remember, it was early 2020 when this became FDA approved. There are other agents being tested in this disease, but like atezolizumab through the SWOG study that Dr. Black and Dr. Singh led, but atezolizumab is not FDA approved for this indication. Again, this is for BCG unresponsive, high-risk, non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: So maybe teach us how it works, for instance, at an expert center like the Fred Hutch. When you see a patient with non-muscle invasive bladder cancer, there's obviously the option of surgery, there's the intravesical therapies, which I imagine the urology team is still really at the helm of. But then, I guess there has to be consideration of all options. So you've got to bring up systemic therapy with agents like pembrolizumab. In that context, are you involved that early on in the conversation? Dr. Petros Grivas: That's a great discussion, Monty. Paradigm is shifting as we mentioned together. The urologists have been treating these patients and still they are the mainstay of the treaters, the managers in this disease. But medical oncologists come to play more and more, especially with the FDA approval of intravenous pembrolizumab about 5 years ago [GC1]  [KM2] . We have the concept of multidisciplinary bladder cancer clinic here at Fred Hutch and University of Washington. This happens every Tuesday morning, and we're very excited because it's a one-stop shop for the patients. We have the urologist, a medical oncologist, radiation oncologist, and experts from radiology and pathology, and we all review cases specifically with muscle-invasive bladder cancer. But every now and then, we see patients with BCG unresponsive non-muscle invasive bladder cancer. And this is where we discuss and we talk to the patient about pros and cons of all those options. And that's a classic example where medical oncologists may start to see those patients and offer their input and expertise. In addition to that, sometimes we have clinical trials, we may see these patients because there are systemic agents that may be administered in this setting. We have the SunRISe trial program that includes also a systemically administered checkpoint inhibitor. So that's another example where we see patients either in the context of multi-clinic or in individual solo clinics to counsel the patients about the pros and cons of the systemically administered agents in the context of clinical trials. Usually checkpoint inhibitors are the class of agents that are being tested in this particular scenario. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: I can see a scenario where it's really going to require this sort of deep dive, much in the way that we do for prostate cancer, for instance, where the medical oncologist is involved very early on and planning out any sort of systemic therapy component of treatment or at the very least, at least spelling out those options. I think it's going to be really interesting to see what this space looks like 5 or 10 years down the road. In closing, I wanted to go through something that I think is so different in this space, at least for the time being, and that is the paradigm for FDA approval. When you and I have our fellows in the clinics, we always say, “Look, you know, the paradigm in this disease and that disease and the other disease needs to be phase 3 randomized trials, right? Big thousand patient experiences where you're testing clinical endpoints.” That's tough in non-muscle invasive bladder cancer, right? Because thankfully, outcomes can actually be quite good, you know, in this setting, right? It's tough to actually estimate overall survival in some of these early-stage populations. Tell me what the current regulatory bar is, and this is a tough thing to do in 2 minutes or less but tell me where you see it headed. Dr. Petros Grivas: You alluded to that before, Monty, when I was giving the background and we talked about the regulatory approval. And I have to very quickly go back in time about 10 years ago because it's important for context that can help us in other disease types too. We had workshops with the FDA and the NCI with the help of the International Bladder Cancer Group and other colleagues. And we try to define a framework, what endpoints are meaningful for those patients in this disease. It was a multidisciplinary, multiple stakeholders meeting, where we tried to define what is important for patients. What are the available agents? What are the trial designs we can accept? And what are the meaningful endpoints that the regulatory agencies can accept for regulatory approval? And that was critical in that mission because it allowed us to design clinical trials, for example, single-arm trials in a disease where there was no standard of care. There was intravesical valrubicin and chemotherapy anthracycline that was approved for many years, but was not practically used in clinical practice, despite being approved, the valrubicin. And because of that, the FDA allowed these single-arm trials to happen. And obviously the endpoint was also discussed in that meeting. For example, for carcinoma in situ, complete response, clinical complete response, because the bladder remains intact in many patients, clinical complete response was a meaningful primary endpoint, also duration of response is also very important. So what is the durable clinical complete response in 1 year or 18 months is relevant. And when you have papillary tumors like Ta or T1 with CIS, for papillary tumors, event-free survival becomes one of the key endpoints and you look at it over time, for example, at 12 or 18 months, what is the event-free survival? So clinical complete response, duration of response, event-free survival, depending on the CIS presence or papillary tumors, I think these are endpoints that have allowed us to design those trials, get those agents approved.  Now, the question going forward, Monty, and we can close with that is, since now we have the embarrassment of riches, many more options available compared to where we were 6 and 7 years ago, is now the time to do randomized trials? And if we do randomized trials, which can be the control group? Which of those agents should be allowed to be part of the control group? These are ongoing discussions right now with the NCI, with other agencies, cooperative groups, trying to design those trials and move forward from here.[GC3]  Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: Well, it's awesome to have you here on the program so we can get some early looks into some of these conversations. I mean, clearly, you're at the table at a lot of these discussions, Petros. So I want to thank you for sharing your insights with us today. This was just tremendous. Dr. Petros Grivas: Thank you, Monty. You know, patients in the center, I just came back from the Bladder Cancer Advocacy Network meeting in Washington, D.C., and we discussed all those questions, the topics you very eloquently mentioned and asked me today, and patients gave us great feedback and patients guide us in that effort. Thank you so, so much for having me and congratulations for the amazing podcast you're doing. Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal: Oh, cheers, Petros, thanks so much.  And thank you to the listeners who joined us today. If you really like the insights that you heard on this ASCO Daily News Podcast, please rate, review, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks, everyone. Disclaimer: The purpose of this podcast is to educate and to inform. 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The mention of any product, service, organization, activity, or therapy should not be construed as an ASCO endorsement.   Find out more about today's speakers:      Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal  @montypal  Dr. Petros Grivas @PGrivasMDPhD   Follow ASCO on social media:     @ASCO on Twitter    ASCO on Bluesky   ASCO on Facebook     ASCO on LinkedIn     Disclosures:    Dr. Sumanta (Monty) Pal:   Speakers' Bureau: MJH Life Sciences, IntrisiQ, Peerview  Research Funding (Inst.): Exelixis, Merck, Osel, Genentech, Crispr Therapeutics, Adicet Bio, ArsenalBio, Xencor, Miyarsian Pharmaceutical  Travel, Accommodations, Expenses: Crispr Therapeutics, Ipsen, Exelixis  Dr. Petros Grivas: Consulting or Advisory Role: Merck, Bristol-Myers Squibb, AstraZeneca, EMD Serono, Pfizer, Janssen, Roche, Astellas Pharma, Gilead Sciences, Strata Oncology, Abbvie, Bicycle Therapeutics Replimune, Daiichi Sankyo, Foundation Medicine, Bicycle Therapeutics, Eli Lilly, Urogen Pharma, Tyra Biosciences Research Funding (Inst.): Bristol-Myers Squibb, Merck, EMD Serono, Gilead Sciences, Acrivon Therapeutics, ALX Oncology, ALX Oncology, Genentech Travel, Accommodations, Expenses: Gilead Sciences

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Dr. Hope Rugo and Dr. Kamaria Lee discuss the prevalence of financial toxicity in cancer care in the United States and globally, focusing on breast cancer, and highlight key interventions to mitigate financial hardship. TRANSCRIPT  Dr. Hope Rugo: Hello, and welcome to By the Book, a podcast series from ASCO that features engaging conversations between editors and authors of the ASCO Educational Book. I'm your host, Dr. Hope Rugo. I'm the director of the Women's Cancer Program and division chief of breast medical oncology at the City of Hope Cancer Center, and I'm also the editor-in-chief of the Educational Book. Rising healthcare costs are causing financial distress for patients and their families across the globe. Patients with cancer report financial toxicity as a major impediment to their quality of life, and its association with worse outcomes is well documented. Today, we'll be discussing how patients with breast cancer are uniquely at risk for financial toxicity. Joining me for this discussion is Dr. Kamaria Lee, a fourth-year radiation oncology resident and health equity researcher at MD Anderson Cancer Center and a co-author of the recently published article titled, "Financial Toxicity in Breast Cancer: Why Does It Matter, Who Is at Risk, and How Do We Intervene?" Our full disclosures are available in the transcript of this episode.  Dr. Lee, it's great to have you on this podcast. Dr. Kamaria Lee: Hey, Dr. Rugo. Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here today. I also would like to recognize my co-authors, Dr. Alexandru Eniu, Dr. Christopher Booth, Molly MacDonald, and Dr. Fumiko Chino, who worked on this book chapter with me and did a fantastic presentation on the topic at ASCO this past year. Dr. Hope Rugo: Thanks very much. We'll now just jump into the questions. We know that rising medical costs contribute to a growing financial burden on patients, which has [GC1]  [JG2]  been documented to contribute to lower quality-of-life, compromised clinical care, and worse health outcomes. How are patients with breast cancer uniquely at risk for financial toxicity? How does the problem vary within the breast cancer population in terms of age, racial and ethnic groups, and those who have metastatic disease? Dr. Kamaria Lee: Breast cancer patients are uniquely at risk of financial toxicity for several reasons. Three key reasons are that breast cancer often requires multimodal treatment. So this means patients are receiving surgery, many receive systemic therapies, including hormonal therapies, as well as radiation. And so this requires care coordination and multiple visits that can increase costs. Secondly, another key reason that patients with breast cancer are uniquely at risk for financial toxicity is that there's often a long survivorship period that includes long-term care for toxicities and continued follow-ups, and patients might also be involved in activities regarding advocacy, but also physical therapy and mental health appointments during their prolonged survivorship, which can also add costs. And a third key reason that patients with breast cancer are uniquely at risk for financial toxicity is that the patient population is primarily women. And we know that women are more likely to have increased caregiver responsibilities while also potentially working and managing their treatments, and so this is another contributor. Within the breast cancer population, those who are younger and those who are from marginalized racial/ethnic groups and those with metastatic disease have been shown to be at an increased risk. Those who are younger may be more likely to need childcare during treatment if they have kids, or they're more likely to be employed and not yet retired, which can be disrupted while receiving treatment. And those who are racial/ethnic minorities may have increased financial toxicity due to reasons that exist even after controlling for socioeconomic factors. And some of these reasons have been shown to be increased risk of job or income loss or transportation barriers during treatment. And lastly, for those with metastatic breast cancer, there can be ongoing financial distress due to the long-term care that is needed for treatment, and this can include parking, transportation, and medications while managing their metastatic disease. Dr. Hope Rugo: I think it is really important to understand these issues as you just outlined. There has been a lot of focus on financial toxicity research in recent years, and that has led to novel approaches in screening for financial hardship. Can you tell us about the new screening tools and interventions and how you can easily apply that to clinical practice, keeping in mind that people aren't at MD Anderson with a bunch of support and information on this but are in clinical practice and seeing many, many patients a day with lots of different cancers? Dr. Kamaria Lee: You're exactly right that there is incredible nuance needed in understanding how to best screen for financial hardship in different types of practices. There are multiple financial toxicity tools. The most commonly used tool is the Comprehensive Score for Financial Toxicity, also known as the COST tool. In its full form, it's an 11-item survey. There's also a summary question as well. And these questions look at objective and subjective financial burden, and it uses a five-point Likert scale. For example, one question on the full form is, "I know that I have enough money in savings, retirement, or assets to cover the cost of my treatment," and then patients are able to respond "not at all" to "very much" with a threshold score for financial toxicity risk. Of course, as you noted, one critique of having an 11-item survey is that there's limited time in patient encounters with their providers. And so recently, Thom et al validated an abbreviated two-question version of the COST tool. This validation was done in an urban comprehensive cancer center, and it was found to have a high predictive value to the full measure. We note which two questions are specifically pulled from the full measure within the book chapter. And this is one way that it can be easier for clinicians who are in a busier setting to still screen for financial toxicity with fewer questions. I also do recommend that clinicians who know their clinic's workflow the best, work with their team of nurses, financial navigators, and others to best integrate the tool into their workflow. For some, this may mean sending the two-item survey as a portal message so that patients can answer it before consults. Other times, it could mean having it on the tablet that can be done in the clinic waiting room. And so there are different ways that screening can be done, even in a busy setting, and acknowledging that different practices have different amounts of resources and time. Dr. Hope Rugo: And where would people access that easily? I recognize that that information is in your chapter, or your article that's on PubMed that will be linked to this podcast, but it is nice to just know where people could easily access that online. Dr. Kamaria Lee: Yes, and so you should be able to Google ‘the COST measure', and then there is a website that also has the forms as well. So it's also beyond the book chapter, Googling ‘the COST measure', and then online they would be able to find access to the form. Dr. Hope Rugo: And how often would you do that screening? Dr. Kamaria Lee: So, I think it's definitely important that we are as proactive as possible. And so initially, I recommend that the screening happens at the time of diagnosis, and so if it's done through the portal, it can be sent before the initial consult, or again, however, is best in the workflow. So at the time of diagnosis and then at regular intervals, so throughout the treatment process, but then also into the follow-up period as well to best understand if there's still a financial burden even after the treatments have been completed. Dr. Hope Rugo: I wonder if in the metastatic setting, you could do it at the change of treatment, you know, a month after somebody's changed treatment, because people may not be as aware of the financial constraints when they first get prescribed a drug. It's more when you hear back from how much it's going to cost. And leading into that, I think it's, what do you do with this? So, you know, this cost conversation is really important. You're going to be talking to the patient about the cost considerations when you, for example, see that there are financial issues, you're prescribing treatments. How do we implement impactful structured cost conversations with our breast cancer patients, help identify financial issues, and intervene? How do we intervene? I mean, as physicians often we aren't really all that aware, or providers, of how to address the cost. Dr. Kamaria Lee: Yes, I agree fully that another key time when to screen for financial toxicity is at that transition between treatments to best understand where they're at based off of what they've received previously for care, and then to anticipate needs when changing regimens, such as like you said in the metastatic setting. As we're collecting this information, you're right, we screen, we get this information, and what do we do? I do agree that there is a lack of knowledge among us clinicians of how do we manage this information. What is insurance? How do we manage insurance and help patients with insurance concerns? How do we help them navigate out-of-pocket costs or even the indirect costs of transportation? Those are a lot of things that are not covered in-depth in traditional medical training. And so it can be overwhelming for a lot of clinicians, not only due to time limitations in clinic, but also just having those conversations within their visit. And so what I would say, a key thing to note, is that this is another area for multidisciplinary care. So just as we're treating patients in a multidisciplinary way within oncology as we work with our medical oncology, surgical colleagues across the board, it's knowing that this is another area for multidisciplinary care. So the team members include all of the different oncologists, but it also includes team members such as financial counselors and navigators and social workers and even understanding nonprofit partners who we have who have money that can be set aside to help reduce costs for certain different aspects of treatment. Another thing I will note is that most patients with breast cancer often say they do want to have these conversations still with their clinicians. So they do still see a clinician as someone that can weigh in on the costs of their treatment or can weigh in on this other aspect of their care, even if it's not the actual medication or the radiation. And so patients do desire to hear from their clinicians about this topic, and so I think another way to make it feel less overwhelming for clinicians like ourselves is to know that even small conversations are helpful and then being knowledgeable about within your institution or, like I said, outside of it with nonprofits, being aware of who can I refer this patient to for continued follow-up and for more detailed information and resources. Dr. Hope Rugo: Are those the successful interventions? It's really referring to financial navigators? How do people identify? You know, in an academic center, we often will sort of punt this to social workers or our nurse navigators. What about in the community? What's a successful intervention example of mitigating financial toxicity? Dr. Kamaria Lee: I agree completely that the context at which people are practicing is important to note. So as you alluded to, in some bigger systems, we do have financial navigators and this has been seen to be successful in providing applications and assisting with applications for things such as pharmaceutical assistance, insurance applications, discount opportunities.  Another successful intervention are financial toxicity tumor boards, which I acknowledge might not be able to exist everywhere. But where this is possible, multidisciplinary tumor boards that include both doctors and nurses and social workers and any other members of the care team have been able to effectively decrease patients' personal spending on care costs and decrease co-pays through having a dedicated time to discuss concerns as they arise or even proactively. Otherwise, I think in the community, there are other interventions in regards to understanding different aspects of government programs that might be available for patients that are not, you know, limited to an institution, but that are more nationally available, and then again, also having the nonprofit, you know, partnerships to see other resources that patients can have access to.  And then I would also say that the indirect costs are a significant burden for many patients. So by that, I mean even parking costs, transportation, childcare. And so even though those aren't interventions necessarily with someone who is a financial navigator, I would recommend that even if it's a community practice, they discuss ways that they can help offset those indirect costs with patients with parking or if there are ways to help offset transportation costs or at least educate patients on other centers that may be closer to them or they can still receive wonderful care, and then also making sure that patients are able to even have appointments scheduled in ways that are easier for them financially.  So even if someone's receiving care out in the community where there's not a financial navigator, as clinicians or our scheduling teams, sometimes there are options to make sure if a patient wants, visits are more so on one day than throughout the week or many hours apart that can really cause loss of income due to missed work. And so there are also kind of more nuanced interventions that can happen even without a financial navigation system in place. Dr. Hope Rugo: I think that those are really good points and it is interesting when you think about financial toxicity. I mean, we worry a lot when patients can't take the drugs because they can't afford them, but there are obviously many other non-treatment, direct treatment-related issues that come up like the parking, childcare, tolls, you know, having a working car, all those kinds of things, and the unexpected things like school is out or something like that that really play a big role where they don't have alternatives. And I think that if we think about just drug costs, I think those are a big issue in the global setting. And your article did address financial toxicity in the global setting. International financial toxicity rates range from 25% of patients with breast cancer in high-income countries to nearly 80% in low- and middle-income countries or LMICs. You had cited a recent meta-analysis of the global burnout from cancer, and that article found that over half of patients faced catastrophic health expenditures. And of course, I travel internationally and have a lot of colleagues who are working in oncology in many countries, and it is really often kind of shocking from our perspective to see what people can get coverage for and how much they have to pay out-of-pocket and how much that changes, that causes a lot of disparity in access to healthcare options, even those that improve survival. Can you comment on the global impact of this problem? Dr. Kamaria Lee: I am glad that you brought this up for discussion as well. Financial toxicity is something that is a significant global issue. As you mentioned, as high as 80% of patients with breast cancer in low- and middle-income countries have had significant financial toxicity. And it's particularly notable that even when looking at breast cancer compared to other malignancies around the world, the burden appears to be worse. This has been seen even in countries with free universal healthcare. One example is Sri Lanka, where they saw high financial toxicity for their patients with breast cancer, even with this free universal healthcare. But there were also those travel costs and just additional out-of-hospital tests that were not covered. Also, literature in low- and middle-income countries shows that patients might also be borrowing money from their social networks, so from their family and their friends, to help cover their treatment costs, and in some cases, people are making daily food compromises to help offset the cost of their care. So there is a really large burden of financial toxicity generally for cancer globally, but also specifically in breast cancer, it warrants specific discussion. In the meta-analysis that you mentioned, they identified key risk factors of financial toxicity globally that included people who had a larger family size, a lower income, a lack of insurance, longer disease duration, so again, the accumulation of visits and costs and co-pay over time, and those who had multiple treatments. And so in the global setting, there is this significant burden, but then I will also note that there is a lack of literature in low-income countries on financial toxicity. So where we suspect that there is a higher burden and where we need to better understand how it's distributed and what interventions can be applied, especially culturally specific interventions for each country and community, there's less research on this topic. So there is definitely an increased need for research in financial toxicity, particularly in the global setting. Dr. Hope Rugo: Yes, and I think that goes on to how we hope that financial toxicity researchers will have approaches to large-scale multi-institutional interventions to improve financial toxicity. I think this is an enormous challenge, but one of the SWOG organizations has done some great work in this area, and a randomized trial addressing cancer-related financial hardship through the delivery of a proactive financial navigation intervention is one area that SWOG has focused on, which I think is really interesting. Of course, that's going to be US-based, which is how we might find our best paths starting. Do you think that's a good path forward, maybe that being able to provide something like that across institutions that are independent of being a cancer only academic center, or more general academic center, or a community practice? You know, is finding ways to help patients with breast cancer and their families understand and better manage financial aspects of cancer care on a national basis the next approach? Dr. Kamaria Lee: Yes, I agree that that is a good approach, and I think the proactive component is also key. We know that patients that are coming to us with any cancer, but including breast cancer, some of them have already experienced a financial burden or have recently had a job loss before even coming to us and having the added distress of our direct costs and our indirect costs. So I think being proactive when they come to us in regards to the additional burden that their cancer treatments may cause is key to try to get ahead of things as much as we can, knowing that even before they've seen us, there might be many financial concerns that they've been navigating.  I think at the national level, that allows us to try to understand things at what might be a higher level of evidence and make sure that we're able to address this for a diverse cohort of patients. I know that sometimes the enrollment can be challenging at the national level when looking at financial toxicity, as then we're involving many different types of financial navigation partners and programs, and so that can maybe make it more complex to understand the best approaches, but I think that it can be done and can really bring our understanding of important financial toxicity interventions to the next level. And then the benefit to families with the proactive component is just allowing them to feel more informed, which can help decrease anticipation, anxiety related to anticipation, and allow them to help plan things moving forward for themselves and for the whole family. Dr. Hope Rugo: Those are really good points and I wonder, I was just thinking as you were talking, that having some kind of a process where you could attach to the electronic health record, you could click on the financial toxicity survey questions that somebody filled out, and then there would be a drop-down menu for interventions or connecting you to people within your clinic or even more broadly that would be potential approaches to manage that toxicity issue so that it doesn't impact care, you know, that people aren't going to decide not to take their medication or not to come in or not to get their labs because of the cost or the transportation or the home care issues that often are a big problem, even parking, as you pointed out, at the cancer center. And actually, we had a philanthropic donor when I was at UCSF who donated a large sum of money for patient assistance, and it was interesting to then have these sequential meetings with all the stakeholders to try and decide how you would use that money. You need a big program, you need to have a way of assessing the things you can intervene with, which is really tough. In that general vein, you know, what are the governmental, institutional, and provider-level actions that are required to help clinicians do our best to do no financial harm, given the fact that we're prescribing really expensive drugs that require a lot of visits when caring for our patients with breast cancer in the curative and in the metastatic setting? Dr. Kamaria Lee: At the governmental level, there are patient assistant programs that do exist, and I think that those can continue and can become more robust. But I also think one element of those is oftentimes the programs that we have at the government level or even institutional levels might have a lot of paperwork or be harder for people with lower literacy levels to complete. And so I think the government can really try to make sure that the paperwork that is given, within reason, with all the information they need, but that the paperwork can be minimized and that there can be clear instructions, as well as increased health insurance options and, you know, medical debt forgiveness as more broad just overall interventions that are needed. I think additionally, institutions that have clinical trials can help ensure that enrollment can be at geographically diverse locations. Some trials do reimburse for travel costs, of course, but sometimes then patients need the reimbursement sooner than it comes. And so I think there's also those considerations of more so upfront funds for patients involved in clinical trials if they're going to have to travel far to be enrolled in that type of care or trying to, again, make clinical trials more available at diverse locations.  I would also say that it's important that those who design clinical trials use what is known as the “Common Sense Oncology” approach of making sure that they're designed in minimizing the use of outcomes that might have a smaller clinical benefit but may have a high financial toxicity. And that also goes to what providers can do, of understanding what's most important to a particular patient in front of them, what outcomes and what benefit, or you know, how many additional months of progression-free survival or things like that might be important to a particular patient and then also educating them and discussing what the associated financial burden is just so that they have the full picture as they make an informed decision. Dr. Hope Rugo: As much as we know. I mean, I think that that's one of the big challenges is that as we prescribe these expensive drugs and often require multiple visits, even, you know, really outside of the clinical trial setting, trying to balance the benefit versus the financial toxicity can be a huge challenge. And that's a big area, I think, that we still need help with, you know. As we have more drugs approved in the early-stage setting and treatments that could be expensive, oral medications, for example, in our Medicare population where the share of cost may be substantial upfront, you know, with an upfront cost, how do we balance the benefits versus the risk? And I think you make an important point that discussing this individually with patients after we found out what the cost is. I think warning patients about the potential for large out-of-pocket cost and asking them to contact us when they know is one way around this. You know, patients feeling like they're sort of out there with a prescription, a recommendation from their doctor, they're scared of their cancer, and they have this huge share of cost that we didn't know about. That's one challenge, and I don't know if there's any suggestions you have about how one should approach that communication with the patient. Dr. Kamaria Lee: Yes, I think part of it is truly looking at each patient as an individual and asking how much they want to know, right? So we all know that patients, some who want more information, some want less, and so I think one way to approach that is asking them about how much information do they want to know, what is most helpful to them. And then also, knowing that if you're in a well-resourced setting that does have the social workers and financial navigators, also making sure it's integrated in the multidisciplinary setting and so that they know who they can go to for what, but also know that as a clinician, you're always happy for them to bring up their concerns and that if it's something that you're not aware of, that you will connect them to the correct multidisciplinary team members who can accurately provide that additional information. Dr. Hope Rugo: Do you have any other additional comments that you'd like to mention that we haven't covered? I think the idea of a financial toxicity screen with two questions that could be implemented at change of therapy or just periodically throughout the course of treatment would be a really great thing, but I think we do need as much information on potential interventions as possible because that's really what challenges people. It's like finding out information that you can't handle. Your article provides a lot of strategies there, which I think are great and can be discussed on a practice and institutional level and applied. Dr. Kamaria Lee: Yeah, I would just like to thank you for the opportunity to discuss such an important topic within oncology and specifically for our patients with breast cancer. I agree that it can feel overwhelming, both for clinicians and patients, to navigate this topic that many of us are not as familiar with, but I would just say that the area of financial toxicity is continuing to evolve as we gather more information on most successful interventions and that our patients can often inform us on, you know, what interventions are most needed as we see them. And so you can have your thinking about it as you see individual patients of, "This person mentioned this could be more useful to them." And so I think also learning from our patients in this space that can seem overwhelming and that maybe we weren't all trained on in medical school to best understand how to approach it and how to give our patients the best care, not just medically, but also financially. Dr. Hope Rugo: Thank you, Dr. Lee, for sharing your insights with us today. Our listeners will find a link, as I mentioned earlier, to the Ed Book article we discussed today in the transcript of this episode. I think it's very useful, a useful resource, and not just for providers, but for clinic staff overall. I think this can be of great value and help open the discussion as well. Dr. Kamaria Lee: Thank you so much, Dr. Rugo. Dr. Hope Rugo: And thanks to our listeners for joining us today. Please join us again next month on By the Book for more insightful views on topics you'll be hearing at Education Sessions from ASCO meetings and our deep dives into new approaches that are shaping modern oncology. Thank you. Disclaimer: The purpose of this podcast is to educate and to inform. This is not a substitute for professional medical care and is not intended for use in the diagnosis or treatment of individual conditions. Guests on this podcast express their own opinions, experience, and conclusions. Guest statements on the podcast do not express the opinions of ASCO. The mention of any product, service, organization, activity, or therapy should not be construed as an ASCO endorsement. Follow today's speakers:       Dr. Hope Rugo  @hope.rugo  Dr. Kamaria Lee @ lee_kamaria Follow ASCO on social media:       @ASCO on X (formerly Twitter)       ASCO on Bluesky      ASCO on Facebook       ASCO on LinkedIn       Disclosures:      Dr. Hope Rugo:   Honoraria: Mylan/Viatris, Chugai Pharma  Consulting/Advisory Role: Napo Pharmaceuticals, Sanofi, Bristol Myer  Research Funding (Inst.): OBI Pharma, Pfizer, Novartis, Lilly, Merck, Daiichi Sankyo, AstraZeneca, Gilead Sciences, Hoffman La-Roche AG/Genentech, In., Stemline Therapeutics, Ambryx    Dr. Kamaria Lee: No relationships to disclose  

In der heutigen Folge sprechen die Finanzjournalisten Daniel Eckert und Holger Zschäpitz über enttäuschende Zahlen bei Münchener Rück, einen KI-Schocker von C3 AI und eine der besten Aktien auf dem deutschen Kurszettel. Außerdem geht es um Nordex, Nvidia, AMD, Gilead Sciences, The Trade Desk, Firefly Airospace, Rocket Lab US, Vaneck Space Innovators (WKN: A3DP9J), ARK Space Exploration & Innovation ETF (WKN: A3CUNY), Allianz, Apple, Berkshire Hathaway, Tesla, Rheinmetall. Wir freuen uns an Feedback über aaa@welt.de. Noch mehr "Alles auf Aktien" findet Ihr bei WELTplus und Apple Podcasts – inklusive aller Artikel der Hosts und AAA-Newsletter. Hier bei WELT: https://www.welt.de/podcasts/alles-auf-aktien/plus247399208/Boersen-Podcast-AAA-Bonus-Folgen-Jede-Woche-noch-mehr-Antworten-auf-Eure-Boersen-Fragen.html. Der Börsen-Podcast Disclaimer: Die im Podcast besprochenen Aktien und Fonds stellen keine spezifischen Kauf- oder Anlage-Empfehlungen dar. Die Moderatoren und der Verlag haften nicht für etwaige Verluste, die aufgrund der Umsetzung der Gedanken oder Ideen entstehen. Hörtipps: Für alle, die noch mehr wissen wollen: Holger Zschäpitz können Sie jede Woche im Finanz- und Wirtschaftspodcast "Deffner&Zschäpitz" hören. +++ Werbung +++ Du möchtest mehr über unsere Werbepartner erfahren? Hier findest du alle Infos & Rabatte! https://linktr.ee/alles_auf_aktien Impressum: https://www.welt.de/services/article7893735/Impressum.html Datenschutz: https://www.welt.de/services/article157550705/Datenschutzerklaerung-WELT-DIGITAL.html

HIV isn’t over — it’s just been ignored. Black women account for a disproportionate number of new cases, the South is ground zero, and the stigma is still killing us. Roland Martin, Dr. Toyin Nwafor, Raheem DeVaughn, and frontline organizers break the silence on a public health crisis America refuses to face. In response to this staggering trend, Gilead Sciences has launched the Setting the P.A.C.E. initiative. The Prevention, Arts and Advocacy, Community, and Education program is a three-year, $12.6 million commitment aimed at expanding HIV prevention efforts in underserved communities. Dr. Toyin Nwafor, Executive Director of Gilead U.S. HIV Medical Affairs, and Raheem DeVaughn, an award-winning musician and partner in the Gilead Setting the P.A.C.E. initiative.

What does it really mean to be “the man”? In many Latino communities—and beyond—men are taught that having lots of sexual partners is proof of status, strength, and masculinity. In this special episode, Dramos unpacks that toxic message, sharing personal stories about chasing validation, peer pressure, and the role of machismo culture in shaping harmful expectations. He explores why this obsession with “numbers” can lead to dishonesty, emptiness, and broken trust, and why true masculinity means respect, empathy, and protecting the people you’re intimate with—including their sexual health. Dramos also gets real about what he’s learned from his own past, and why having tough, honest conversations is the foundation of healthy relationships and healthy sexuality. This episode is brought to you by Healthysexual from Gilead Sciences.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Synopsis: Host Rahul Chaturvedi sits down with Jeremy Bender, CEO of Day One Biopharmaceuticals, to explore the bold mission of transforming pediatric oncology. From earning FDA approval for a groundbreaking brain cancer drug to building a culture rooted in execution and empathy, Jeremy shares lessons from big pharma and startups alike. He discusses how to lead through uncertainty, scale with discipline, and stay focused on delivering targeted therapies for underserved patients. They also dive into real-world data, AI's emerging role in clinical trial design, and why pediatric-first innovation could reshape the future of oncology. Biography: Jeremy Bender, Ph.D., M.B.A. has served as our Chief Executive Officer, President and a member of our board of directors since September 2020. Prior to joining Day One, Dr. Bender was Vice President of Corporate Development at Gilead Sciences, a pharmaceutical company, from March 2018 to September 2020. Prior to that, he was Chief Operating Officer of Tizona Therapeutics from July 2015 to March 2018 and Chief Business Officer of Sutro Biopharma, a biotechnology company specializing in cancer and autoimmune therapeutics, from October 2012 to July 2015. Prior to joining Sutro Biopharma, he was Vice President of Corporate Development at Allos Therapeutics, a biotechnology company focused on cancer treatments, from January 2006 to September 2012. Dr. Bender also sits on the board of Mereo BioPharma as an independent board member. He started his career in the life sciences practice at Boston Consulting Group, a management consulting company. Dr. Bender holds a B.S. in Biological Sciences from Stanford University, a Ph.D. in Microbiology and Immunology from the University of Colorado, and an M.B.A. from the MIT Sloan School of Management.

In this episode, host Ben Plumley, along with co-host Yvette Raphael, reports from the International AIDS Society Scientific Conference in Kigali, Rwanda. They discuss significant advancements in HIV prevention, particularly the recent FDA approval of Lenacapavir, with Dr. Alex Kintu from Gilead Sciences. The conversation covers the clinical journey and delivery mechanisms of Lenacapavir, its impact on young people and pregnant women, and the urgency of making this innovation widely accessible amidst funding challenges. The episode also highlights the critical role of community engagement and accountability boards in informing and driving HIV prevention strategies. Tune in for an in-depth look at the latest scientific and policy developments in the fight against HIV/AIDS. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:37 Yvette's Stage Takeover Experience 01:33 Discussion on Gilead Sciences and HIV Prevention 02:15 Dr. Alex Kintu's Background and Role 03:33 FDA Approval and Next Steps for Lenacapavir 04:08 Global Access and Regulatory Processes 11:04 Understanding Lena Kavir and Its Importance 17:36 Challenges and Future of HIV Prevention 27:23 Community Engagement and Youth Involvement 34:33 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

Growing up in a Latino household, real conversations about sex often felt one-sided—or didn’t happen at all. In this special episode, Dramos opens up about how that silence made it harder to talk openly with friends and partners about sex, intimacy, and boundaries. He explores the fears and cultural pressures that make these talks intimidating, from worries about inexperience to the weight of tradition. Dramos also shares why learning to be vulnerable with peers and partners is so important for sexual health and building real trust. From navigating dating and safe sex to getting tested regularly, this episode breaks down why these “hard conversations” matter—and how having them can help protect yourself and others, emotionally and physically. This episode is brought to you by Healthysexual from Gilead Sciences.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Governor Josh Shapiro says he wants to be sure Pennsylvania plays a key role in developing artificial intelligence, as well as providing the energy needed to support it. Speaking at an energy and A-I summit in Pittsburgh this week, Shapiro said the state's skilled workforce and natural gas reserves helped attract a $20 billion dollar investment in new data centers recently pledged by Amazon. A number of large-scale data center projects were announced across the state including a $15 billion project planned for the Carlisle area, a $6 billion project in the Lancaster area and a $5 billion project planned for York County. A nonprofit group that helps unemployed people stay in their homes is calling for state property reassessment laws to be updated. The lawsuit could affect property owners across the state. Another attempt is being made to eliminate local property taxes in Pennsylvania: This latest effort, in the form of an amendment to the state Constitution, is co-sponsored by state Senator Doug Mastriano of Franklin County. It would prohibit school districts from collecting property taxes beginning July first, 2029 and require the General Assembly to come up with another funding method for public schools. Some state lawmakers are taking another shot at legalizing adult cannabis use in Pennsylvania. Senators Daniel Laughlin and Sharif Street, as well as Representatives Emily Kinkead and Abby Major introduced bipartisan recreational cannabis bills just four days apart. Both bills incentivize minority, women and veteran-owned small businesses to open dispensaries across the state. Pennsylvania is one of 49 states sharing in a 20 million dollar settlement with drug maker Gilead Sciences. It stems from a lawsuit which accused Gilead of illegally providing financial and other incentives to medical personnel in exchange for promoting and prescribing its HIV medications. Danville-based Geisinger is eliminating nearly 100 Geisinger Health Plan positions as part of an "operational restructuring" amid financial challenges that include a $231 million operating loss last year. Four independent voters in Pennsylvania are asking the state Supreme Court to rule that the closed primary system violates the state constitution. They filed a lawsuit arguing that keeping independents out of primaries effectively denies them the right to vote in many districts where primaries determine the outcome. The 260th York State Fair kicks off Friday. and runs through the following weekend until Sunday, July 27th. Support WITF: https://www.witf.org/support/give-now/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Cultural taboos around sex and sexuality run deep in many Latino households, often shutting down important conversations before they even start. In this special episode, Dramos opens up about how religion, gender roles, and family expectations shaped his own understanding of sexual health—or lack of it. He explores how these cultural norms can leave young people unprepared, misinformed, and anxious about their own well-being. Plus, Dramos shares what he wishes he'd learned growing up, why sexual health is about so much more than just sex, and how we can start having the hard conversations to better support the next generation. This episode is brought to you by Healthysexual from Gilead Sciences.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.