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Being Alone Isn’t Helping Your Business or You We live in the most connected era in human history, and somehow, we have never been more alone. That paradox is the beating heart of Unknown: Finding Connection in a Disconnected World, the USA Today bestseller from leadership coach and New Hope Church founder Keith Spurgin. After years of advising leaders across North America, Europe, and Africa, Spurgin kept hearing the same quiet confession over and over: “I'm surrounded by people, but I feel completely alone.” Today on A New Direction, he joins us live to talk about why that ache of aloneness shows up everywhere — in marriages, in friendships, and especially in the lives of the leaders we assume have it all figured out.  We can have great success and still be totally alone.  And What makes this conversation different is that Spurgin isn't speaking from a podium. He's speaking from the night his wife told him it felt like he had “a mistress” — not another person, but his work, his calling, and his reputation, all of which had quietly crowded her out. It rocked his world, and it took years to rebuild. Thirty-eight years of marriage later, he's living proof that disconnection doesn't have to be the end of the story. That honesty is exactly why readers keep saying this book “reflects my own life” and “is going to change my life” — and it's why this episode is going to hit closer to home than you expect. For leaders, the stakes are even higher. You can build a brilliant strategy, hit every number, and still be running a team of people who don't actually know each other — or you. You feel everything falls on you…and you are alone at the top. Spurgin argues that healthy culture isn't built on performance; it's built on genuine connection, and most of us were never taught how to create it. In this conversation he lays out the practical road map at the core of Unknown: how to move relationships from lifeless and transactional to vibrant and real, and how the leaders who master this end up building teams people never want to leave. If you've ever wondered why your organization feels busy but hollow, this is the missing piece. Keith Spurgin‘s book, “Unknown: Finding Connection in a Disconnected World” is an honest, insightful look into the epidemic that is growing around the world.  Being alone and being “unknown”.  The fact of the matter is that being alone and loneliness is growing and no one is talking about it.  Yes are we more technologically connected…sure.  But what we are truly build and designed for is 3-dimensional human connection, and without it according to research comes a number of physical problems with a shorter life span. Keith Spurgin, doesn’t pull any punches in Unknown.  He is vulnerable with his own shortcomings.  He is honest with where he has missed the mark and how in some cases he recovered and others, he did not.  He helps us to understand that having these truly connected deep relationships enhances our lives as not only leaders, but as people.  The problem that most of us face is that we are all broken people and relationships are not easy. Many people believe that they don’t need people.  They have convinced themselves of the lie that they are independent, and life is safer without the complications.  However, what we learn is that even the most independent of us still will try to have relationships, but we bounce from one to another, so we don’t get hurt.  We ultimately fall into the relationship pain cycle. For leaders it is more difficult.  Many have made the choice that being alone is the price to pay for being on top.  Spurgin explains that it’s not the best we to lead.  We are only mediocre at best when we go it alone.  And you can’t go from good to great when you are satisfied with mediocrity. The book takes through some practical steps we all need to consider, because it is not just having great relationships we must choose wisely.  Because you should know that the deeper relationships you have, have your back.  They are the ones who can listen without judgement and yet can call you out when you have gone off the rails.  Does it take time?  Of course it does.  You may say you don’t have the time.  But who’s choice is that? At the end of the day, we come to learn a couple of important factors from Unknown: First, we need relationships to make us better.  Second, love (not in the movie version) of your closest friends changes the landscape of being alone.  And three, we are all broken people, and so relationships require work, vulnerability, forgiveness, and reconciliation.  It’s not easy, but as with anything else, it is the hard things that are worth it.  I highly recommend “Unknown“ Get your copy of Unknown by clicking here.  Make sure you're subscribed to the podcast so this one lands in your feed. Whether you lead a company, a team, an organization, a church, or a household, you'll walk away with language for something you've felt for years but couldn't name, and a real path toward changing it. Some episodes inform you. This one might just reconnect you. Don't watch it alone — share it with the person who needs to hear it most. We really would like to ask you to thank our sponsors.  Their financial support of A New Direction is so critical to helping us provide quality guests, books, and great sounding show. “You tune in to A New Direction to grow your business and your mindset. But you can't move forward if you're worried about what's lurking in your inbox. That's where Data443 Cyren comes in. It's the industry standard for real-time email security and URL filtering. They stop phishing and malware before they strike, so you can focus on your success, not your safety. Don't let a cyberattack derail your journey. Go to Data443.com today and secure your future.“ Linda Craft Team, Realtors they literally are a locally owned independent real estate company,  that serves the world. How can a small company serve the world? They have created relationships with the best real estate experts in the world to help you regardless of where you live get the best person possible. And because they are independent of any national brand, they have relationships with other professionals from all the companies, not just the ones that are part of a national branded network. For more than 39 years they continue to build relationships because that is how Linda started the business and continues to do so today.  Head on over to www.LindaCraft.com Hey…do me a favor and please tell your friends to subscribe to A New Direction on their favorite podcast platform and give us a 5 star rating we are so grateful when you do! ABOUT YOUR HOST Meet Jay Izso Executive Performance Coach  |  Host of A New Direction Every week on A New Direction, I sit down with CEOs, founders, and the researchers behind the science of leadership performance. The conversations go deep. We talk about the decisions that built companies, the mistakes that nearly destroyed them, and the personal breakthroughs that changed everything. But here's what most people don't know about me: the show is an extension of the work I do every day with executives behind closed doors. Who I Am I'm an Executive Performance Coach. I work with CEOs and founders of $5M-$50M companies who have hit a wall they can't explain. The marketing looks fine. The team is capable. The market is there. But the business won't move. The problem, almost every time, is the person running it. I find the personal behavioral patterns that are driving the business dysfunction. Then I help the CEO disrupt those patterns so the company can grow. That's it. No motivational platitudes. No vision boards. Diagnostics, intervention, results. Where This Comes From My approach comes from two places most coaches never set foot in. The farm. I grew up as a farmhand in Ithaca, Nebraska—population 100. I started working at nine years old. By the time I left for college, I'd spent a decade learning that you can't cheat the harvest, pain is part of the job, and the work has to get done whether you feel like it or not. I was fourteen the first time I had to castrate boars. Nobody was going to do it for me. That lesson never left: sometimes you have to do things afraid. The forensic psychology unit. In graduate school at Washington State University, I trained under Dr. Thomas Brigham—co-author of the Handbook of Applied Behavior Analysis—in a human behavior lab focused on real-world problems. I then served in a Clinical Psych II role at Eastern State Hospital in Medical Lake, Washington, a forensic setting where I conducted psychological evaluations of individuals charged with the most serious criminal offenses. Sixteen months assessing human behavior at its most extreme taught me how to cut through defenses, identify what's really driving someone's decisions, and see what they can't see in themselves.

On this episode of the Samson Strength Coach Collective, we sit down with Kainon Clark, Associate Director of Football Performance at Washington State University. Kainon reflects on his path through the strength and conditioning profession, highlighting how experiences at multiple programs helped shape his coaching philosophy and approach to athlete development.Throughout the conversation, Kainon discusses the importance of moving outside your comfort zone to gain new perspectives, balancing sports science with traditional coaching principles, and tailoring training to meet the unique demands of football positions. He also shares valuable lessons learned from working alongside respected leaders in the profession and explains why relationships remain one of the most important aspects of long-term success in coaching.Key TakeawaysMoving between programs can accelerate growth and broaden coaching perspectives.Developing your own coaching philosophy requires exposure to multiple environments and mentors.Effective football training balances sports science data with practical coaching experience.Position-specific demands should influence program design and athlete development strategies.Strong relationships and mentorship opportunities are critical for career advancement.Building connections within the profession creates lasting opportunities and support systems.Quote"Realizing how small this industry is, but also the fun, beneficial connections that you don't realize you get to run into. It's always fun, but it connects you as a staff." — Kainon Clark

Bill Moos joins Northwest Passages to talk "Crab Creek Chronicles," a memoir recounting Moos' journey from the wheat field to the ball field and how he ushered in a lifetime of influential moves as athletic director at Oregon, Montana, and Nebraska after playing at Washington State University. Leading the interview is The Spokesman-Review's Executive Editor, Rob Curley, at the Montvale Event Center on April 14, 2026.

A 4-Step Process to Stop Stressing and Your Team Start Leading What if the exact habits that built your success are now the very thing quietly holding your business back? You hustled, you solved every problem, you held the standard — and it worked, so it became automatic. But somewhere along the way the company stopped being able to run without you, your talented team stopped stepping up, and you started wondering why working harder only makes the wheel spin faster. If any of that lands a little too close to home, this week's conversation is for you. In this episode of  A New Direction, we dig into The High-Altitude Entrepreneur with Chris Clearfield — and this episode is about you, not just the book. You'll discover why what got you here won't get you there, why all your systems still leave you trapped at the center, and the uncomfortable truth that your team won't take ownership until you stop jumping in. We even go into the brain science of it: how “predictive processing” keeps you reacting on autopilot to problems you haven't even really looked at yet — and why that's the real reason willpower never broke the cycle. Most importantly, you'll walk away with a way out. We'll unpack the shift from low-altitude founder — reactive, indispensable, exhausted — to high-altitude leader who rises above the chaos, sees the whole system, and finally lets the business grow beyond them. You'll learn how to spot the conditioned instinct that's capping your growth, how to hand your team real ownership, and why personal freedom isn't the reward you earn after success — it's the precondition that makes success possible in the first place. Join us and come ready to see your own patterns clearly, bring the questions you've been afraid to ask out loud, and bring a fellow founder who needs to hear it too. This is the conversation that helps you stop running your business from the ground — and start leading it from altitude. Chris Clearfield‘s book, “The High-Altitude Entrepreneur: A Framework for Scaling Smarter, Leading Better, and Living Freer, is a book for entrepreneurs and leaders.  And quite honestly you are going to need put aside your defensiveness, which will immediately happen when you start reading this book. Why do I say that so confidently?  Because no one wants to hear that the real problem why you as a leader are always stressed, feel like you team won’t take leadership, feel like everything falls on you, is because you are the bottleneck to your business.  But you really can’t do your out of this.  Your problem is not your people the problem is the monster you created because of the way you are wired that causes your people to not want to take action and lead. The fact is when you started your business, you pushed your way through.  You had to.  Every decision fell on you. So you put in the work, and you went into grind mode.  You lost sleep.  You pushed hard!  So now when things are not going well, or things start to go south, what do you do?  You employ your old operating system of work hard, push, and grind.  The problem.  Now you have people, and they aren’t responding. Now you are under even more stress. Your frustrated. You feel more burned out than ever.  You may even slump into depression. You think your people are lazy. They’re not the problem.  You see what got you there at the beginning was great!  But now that your business is grown, what once got you there, isn’t going to get you there now.  You don’t need to do different you need to “be” different. That is the beauty of Chris Clearfield’s book “The High-Altitude Entrepreneur”.  He has to together the High-Altitude framework that takes you step by step through a process where you can start removing yourself, so you can truly rely on others. Is it easy? Nope. Is it a quick fix? Nope. Will change your business for the better? Yep.  Will it change your life for the better? You bet! This is one of those books that if you have the guts to do it, will fundamentally change your business and you.  The book is worth every penny. Get your copy of The High-Altitude Entrepreneur by clicking here! Special Offer from Chris Clearfield If you would like to experience first hand how the process works.  Chris offers a group for free that you can watch and learn how the High-Altitude Framework works.  Just go to: Clearfieldleadership.com/elevate and sign up! Please say thank you to our sponsors!  It is their financial support that allows A New Direction to continue growing and getting great authors. “You tune in to A New Direction to grow your business and your mindset. But you can't move forward if you're worried about what's lurking in your inbox. That's where Data443 Cyren comes in. It's the industry standard for real-time email security and URL filtering. They stop phishing and malware before they strike, so you can focus on your success, not your safety. Don't let a cyberattack derail your journey. Go to Data443.com today and secure your future.“ Linda Craft Team, Realtors for more than 40 years the choice of people all over the world. They are not only experts in buying and selling real estate, they are expert negotiators that will fight for you!  But perhaps their greatest expertise is that they understand that your home is more is a place where you created some of your fondest memories. When you want a real estate professional who not only will get you the best price, but will care about your home like you would care about your home start with the Legends of Customer Service start with Linda Craft & Team.  www.LindaCraft.com ABOUT YOUR HOST Meet Jay Izso Executive Performance Coach  |  Host of A New Direction Every week on A New Direction, I sit down with CEOs, founders, and the researchers behind the science of leadership performance. The conversations go deep. We talk about the decisions that built companies, the mistakes that nearly destroyed them, and the personal breakthroughs that changed everything. But here's what most people don't know about me: the show is an extension of the work I do every day with executives behind closed doors. Who I Am I'm an Executive Performance Coach. I work with CEOs and founders of $5M-$50M companies who have hit a wall they can't explain. The marketing looks fine. The team is capable. The market is there. But the business won't move. The problem, almost every time, is the person running it. I find the personal behavioral patterns that are driving the business dysfunction. Then I help the CEO disrupt those patterns so the company can grow. That's it. No motivational platitudes. No vision boards. Diagnostics, intervention, results. Where This Comes From My approach comes from two places most coaches never set foot in. The farm. I grew up as a farmhand in Ithaca, Nebraska—population 100. I started working at nine years old. By the time I left for college, I'd spent a decade learning that you can't cheat the harvest, pain is part of the job, and the work has to get done whether you feel like it or not. I was fourteen the first time I had to castrate boars. Nobody was going to do it for me. That lesson never left: sometimes you have to do things afraid. The forensic psychology unit. In graduate school at Washington State University, I trained under Dr. Thomas Brigham—co-author of the Handbook of Applied Behavior Analysis—in a human behavior lab focused on real-world problems. I then served in a Clinical Psych II role at Eastern State Hospital in Medical Lake, Washington, a forensic setting where I conducted psychological evaluations of individuals charged with the most serious criminal offenses. Sixteen months assessing human behavior at its most extreme taught me how to cut through defenses, identify what's really driving someone's decisions, and see what they can't see in themselves.

Ask Flora Funga Podcast anything OR Leave a ReviewMolly Quade studies fungi at Washington State University that kill mites to help reduce the death of our honeybee population. We cover how bees are NOT native BUT we treat bees as livestock for our agriculture. She also helps out some of Paul Stamets research with Fungi Perfecti.All resources on florafungapodcast.com/221If you are interested in trying the mead venture to DND Meadery from Episode #220-----------------------------------------------------------------Today's episode is supported by Schedule 35. As always, please do your own research, know your local laws, and make informed choices that are right for you. This is adult-oriented content, and nothing we share here is medical advice or a recommendation to use any substance. Schedule 35 is part of the larger conversation happening around mushrooms, plant medicine, and changing cultural perspectives. For listeners in places where their products are legal and appropriate, you can learn more through Schedule 35 and use code FLORAFUNGA for 15% off.Thank you for supporting the sponsors that help keep Flora Funga growing.Support the showText (727) 477-5974 Flora Funga Phone with your questions, comments, concerns, and IDs Flora Funga: Calm & Collected Tincture — Flora Funga PodcastGoFundMEIf you like the podcast please think of donating to Keep the show happening  $keenie19 on Cash AppFollow my other social media sites to interact and engage with me:Email me to be on the podcast or inperson Interview: floraandfungapodcast@gmail.comFacebookInstagramTwitterTikTokYouTubePatreon---------------------------------------------------------------------------Zbiotics: "FLORA10"Drink ZBiotics before drinking alcohol-Alcohol produces acetaldehyde, a byproduct that your next day...

Send us Fan MailAs commencement season unfolds across the country, nearly one million first-generation students are expected to earn bachelor's degrees this year. These graduates are pioneers in their families, achieving a milestone their parents never had the opportunity to pursue.In this episode, Enrique Cerna speaks with Ana Sanchez Leon and Daniel Pastor, two recent graduates of Washington State University. They reflect on their journeys as first-generation college students, the obstacles they overcame, the support systems that helped them succeed, and what earning a college degree means for their futures and their families.Their stories highlight the determination, resilience, and pride that define the first-generation college experience.Read: https://southseattleemerald.org/voices/2025/07/22/masked-men-are-detaining-people-when-will-washingtons-leaders-protect-usRead: https://nieman.harvard.edu/mark-trahant-wins-the-2025-i-f-stone-medal-for-journalistic-independence/Read: https://www.24thstreet.org/blog/2025/1/17/letting-goRead:https://www.amazon.com/Harbingers-January-Charlottesville-American-Democracy/dp/1586424017Read: https://www.mapresearch.org/2024-dei-report "Dismantling DEI: A Coordinated Attack on American Values"https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/01/07/these-companies-have-rolled-back-dei-policies-mcdonalds-is-latest-to-abandon-diversity-standards/https://www.chronicle.com/package/the-assault-on-dei  Chronicle of Higher Education https://www.courts.wa.gov/appellate_trial_courts/supreme/bios/?fa=scbios.display_file&fileID=gonzalezRead: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/obituaries/chinatown-international-district-activist-matt-chan-dead-at-71/Hear Rick Shenkman on the BBC Radio Program Sideways:https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001xdg0Read: https://www.thedailybeast.com/i-stuck-with-nixon-heres-why-science-said-i-did-itRead: https://www.washcog.org/in-the-news/your-right-to-knowRead: https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/the-legislatures-sunshine-committee-has-fallen-into-darkness/Read: https://www.cascadiadaily.com/2024/feb/2...

You Don’t Need a Business Transformation…you need a YOU Transformation Ever feel like you're doing all the “right” things—reading the self-help books, checking off your goals, grinding every day—but inside, you're still wrestling with the exact same anxieties? You aren’t broken; you’ve just hit the ceiling of what your current self can handle. Real, lasting change requires more than just adding new habits to your daily routine; it demands a total identity transformation. If you are ready to stop merely managing your symptoms and start evolving who you are at your core, it is time for a radical internal upgrade. Today on A New Direction, Coach Jay dives deep into this psychological frontier with cutting-edge mindset expert and best-selling author, Dr. Ryan Gottfredson. We are breaking open his latest, game-changing book, Becoming Better: The Ground Breaking Science of Persona Transformation. Dr. Gottfredson bypasses the usual self-help clichés to deliver the actual, hard science behind vertical development. He will show us how to achieve a deep mental transformation that rewires our internal operating systems for unprecedented success and peace. In this powerful conversation, you will discover why traditional willpower consistently fails and how your hidden mindsets are secretly sabotaging your growth. Dr. Gottfredson will reveal the neurological and psychological blueprints necessary to shed your defensive armor, heal old wounds, and accelerate your personal transformation. This isn’t a superficial conversation about doing more; it is an exploration of how to fundamentally alter how you see yourself and the world from the inside out. Do not miss this chance to experience a life-altering transformation in real-time. Join us right here on A New Direction with Coach Jay to catch every insight, absorb the science, and discover the keys to unlocking your next level. Your old self has taken you as far as it can—it is time to step into the ultimate transformation and meet the person you were actually meant to become. A FREE Transformational Offer!  If you go to RyanGottfredson.com and you click on any of the assessments and tell Ryan you heard him on my show A New Direction with Coach Jay he will give you a FREE 30 minutes call to go over your assessment! Just click here for the assessments. Ryan Gottfredson’s Book, “Becoming Better: The Groundbreaking Science of Personal Transformation” is a life changing book that will be transformational for your business.  You may be asking how can that be?  Because the fact is your business success is limited by your personal success in life.  And when you are broken (which we all are) we are never going to be as successful in life and business until we start our journey of healing from the inside out. Dr Gottfredson likes to use the analogy of our brain and reactions, and mindsets and thinking as an operating system.  That operating system has coding from birth to now.  So, anything that we react to our coding kicks in and we respond in a way that can damage our success.  So, the fact is our operating system really needs to be recoded, the problem is we don’t want to do the hard work to do it. But here is the irony.  When we have problems in life and business what do we typically do?  We try to find ways we can “do” our way out of something.  We may go to a conference to go new ways of “doing” things.  That all sounds great but let’s take the analogy one step further.  Think of it this way.  If you download another app on your phone to help you “do” something, but your operating system coding (IOS) is screwed up, and is a mess, how effective is that app… it’s not. And no transformation. That’s the point of Becoming Better.  Until you change the coding from the bad coding in your past all the “do this” and “do that” are nothing more than great apps on a horribly written operating system. And your business and life transformation is at a stand still. The brilliance of the book is that not only does Dr. Gottfredson address these issues he gives you the science behind them and offers the small building blocks and steps to start erasing the bad code in your operating system and writing new code.  But it is not easy.  And I am speaking from my own experience here.  When you realize just how much trauma in your past (that you will deny, like I did) and how it has affected your coding, you will see how much success you can achieve. Please get a copy of this book Becoming Better and do the work! We really would like to ask you to thank our sponsors.  Their financial support of A New Direction is so critical to helping us provide quality guests, books, and great sounding show. “You tune in to A New Direction to grow your business and your mindset. But you can't move forward if you're worried about what's lurking in your inbox. That's where Data443 Cyren comes in. It's the industry standard for real-time email security and URL filtering. They stop phishing and malware before they strike, so you can focus on your success, not your safety. Don't let a cyberattack derail your journey. Go to Data443.com today and secure your future.“ Linda Craft Team, Realtors they literally are a locally owned independent real estate company,  that serves the world. How can a small company serve the world? They have created relationships with the best real estate experts in the world to help you regardless of where you live get the best person possible. And because they are independent of any national brand, they have relationships with other professionals from all the companies, not just the ones that are part of a national branded network. For more than 39 years they continue to build relationships because that is how Linda started the business and continues to do so today.  Head on over to www.LindaCraft.com Hey…do me a favor and please tell your friends to subscribe to A New Direction on their favorite podcast platform and give us a 5 star rating we are so grateful when you do! ABOUT YOUR HOST Meet Jay Izso Executive Performance Coach  |  Host of A New Direction Every week on A New Direction, I sit down with CEOs, founders, and the researchers behind the science of leadership performance. The conversations go deep. We talk about the decisions that built companies, the mistakes that nearly destroyed them, and the personal breakthroughs that changed everything. But here's what most people don't know about me: the show is an extension of the work I do every day with executives behind closed doors. Who I Am I'm an Executive Performance Coach. I work with CEOs and founders of $5M-$50M companies who have hit a wall they can't explain. The marketing looks fine. The team is capable. The market is there. But the business won't move. The problem, almost every time, is the person running it. I find the personal behavioral patterns that are driving the business dysfunction. Then I help the CEO disrupt those patterns so the company can grow. That's it. No motivational platitudes. No vision boards. Diagnostics, intervention, results. Where This Comes From My approach comes from two places most coaches never set foot in. The farm. I grew up as a farmhand in Ithaca, Nebraska—population 100. I started working at nine years old. By the time I left for college, I'd spent a decade learning that you can't cheat the harvest, pain is part of the job, and the work has to get done whether you feel like it or not. I was fourteen the first time I had to castrate boars. Nobody was going to do it for me. That lesson never left: sometimes you have to do things afraid. The forensic psychology unit. In graduate school at Washington State University, I trained under Dr. Thomas Brigham—co-author of the Handbook of Applied Behavior Analysis—in a human behavior lab focused on real-world problems. I then served in a Clinical Psych II role at Eastern State Hospital in Medical Lake, Washington, a forensic setting where I conducted psychological evaluations of individuals charged with the most serious criminal offenses. Sixteen months assessing human behavior at its most extreme taught me how to cut through defenses, identify what's really driving someone's decisions, and see what they can't see in themselves.

Transcript [Music] This is Food Safety in a Minute. I'm Susie Craig. From Washington State University's online Lunch and Learn Series, discover how to preserve food safely in a four-part series beginning June 8th. Sixty-minute classes are taught via Zoom and recorded for later viewing, making them ideal for busy schedules. Led by WSU Food Preservation instructor, Jennie Bryan-Goforth, you'll learn about water bath canning, pressure canning, fermentation, pickling, and food storage methods including freezing, drying, and root cellars. No special equipment is required. Participants receive access to downloadable recipes, guidelines, and educational resources. The $65 registration fee includes all four classes, and scholarships may be available for those with financial need. To register, search online for “Lunch and Learn: Preserve the Harvest with Washington State University”. From Washington State University Extension, this is Food Safety in a Minute. [Music] Resources Lunch and Learn Series – Preserve the Harvest. Washington State University Extension Cougar Canning. https://extension.wsu.edu/foodsafety/food-preservation-online-training-series/. Accessed online 5/31/26. Eventbrite Registration for Lunch and Learn Series – Preserve the Harvest. Washington State University Extension Cougar Canning. www.eventbrite.com/e/lunch-and-learn-preserve-the-harvest-with-washington-state-university-tickets-1984569945129. Accessed online 5/31/26.

Keith welcomes back Rich Dad author Robert Kiyosaki to discuss why debt, inflation, and financial education are critical in today's economy.  Robert challenges traditional advice like "save money and pay off your house," explaining how understanding good debt and owning real assets can accelerate wealth while inflation quietly punishes savers.  They explore how family background and early beliefs shape our money mindset, and why questioning conventional wisdom is essential.  The conversation ultimately stresses that financial education only matters if you take action and intentionally position yourself for turbulent times instead of fearing them. Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/608 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text  FAMILY to 66866  Unlock truly passive real estate income—visit flockhomes.com/GRE today to see if your properties qualify for a 721 exchange with Flock Homes. To get in the best physical, mental, and professional shape of your life, go to DanielThomasHind.com and apply for Daniel's intensive 1-on-1 coaching for burnt-out entrepreneurs and executives. Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:00   Keith, welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. This week, the number one selling personal finance author of all time, Robert Kiyosaki of Rich Dad Poor Dad, returns to the show, revealing that he's in debt to the tune of $1.2 billion with a B. Why he believes a depression is coming, and he strongly espouses financial education today on Get Rich Education,    Keith Weinhold  0:29   you know, Mid South Homebuyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider. I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties, it's an executive coach for nine years now, their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix, have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. 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And with Father's Day this month, it's apropos to talk about Rich Dad. It's been said that the objective of parenting is to turn a liability into an asset. The book Rich Dad Poor Dad has now sold over 40 million copies, and it's been translated into 51 languages. One strong thesis in the book: well, there are a few of them: the rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I think any regular listener here to the GRE podcast is already initiated on this. Savers or losers, because inflation debases your prosperity, and your house is not an asset, because it takes money out of your pocket every month. An asset puts money in your pocket every month instead. And I can see Robert now as he's preparing to take the mic with me here, he's got a blown up visual of his cash flow board game behind him, and then in front of him he's got a few books, including two books that he co-authored with Donald Trump, but this is before Trump was ever a political candidate, so it was before all that, and we're certainly not here to talk politics today. A central theme of the Rich Dad world is that the path for your significant financial betterment is rather than cutting your expenses, increase your income. This is the root action behind the mantra: don't live below your means, grow your means, but see, living below your means is easier. That's the easy thing to do. It's even myopic, say move into a lesser housing situation, or cut out going on vacations. Growing your means takes some education, like how to start a business, or how to own real estate. See, when you deposit money into a bank, all of a sudden that bank has a problem, they owe you interest on it, it's an expense for them. So the bank's job is now to lend your money out to somebody else and make a higher interest rate on it than. Lower interest rate that they're paying you on your deposit. All right. Well, then one direction to focus your education is to start acting like a bank yourself. How do you practically do that? How do you be the bank? Well, just like the bank, you can borrow real estate at a 7% mortgage rate. Now you've got the problem, you've got a monthly mortgage payment you need to make, so you need to beat 7% How are you going to do that? You better get it right. Well, with tax deductions, you might really be paying five to 6% Meanwhile, the real estate that you've carefully identified and invested in with your borrowed capital can earn multiples more without taking high risk, and actually that five to 6% effective cost of capital that you've got is zero, because that monthly payment is all outsourced to your tenants anyway, and what made all this possible for you? Debt made it possible, and now you're acting like the bank, and banks often have the tallest skyscrapers in your city for a reason, because they make money on those spreads all over the place, and now you're doing the same thing. This is an example of growing your means. The bank will hand you 500k to buy a new home or rental property, not for stocks. They won't do that for crypto, not for your 401k not for a business idea that popped into your head at 3am Only real estate, the same institutions, banks that manage your savings and study every asset class, and are very conservative, and have armies and armies of analysts. They will only lend you a half million dollars for one thing: real estate. For a few years, I was a writer for the Rich Dad Advisors blog when that was a thing. Robert and I were most recently together publicly last year when we both served as faculty members on the Terrific Real Estate Guys Investor Summit at Sea in the Caribbean. Let's talk to Robert.    Keith Weinhold  7:18   I'd like to welcome back to the show for his fifth appearance here on the GRE podcast. Well, just the number one selling personal finance author of all time. He wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad in 1997 and has ruled the Rich Dad world ever since. It's a warm get worse education. Welcome back to Robert Kiyosaki.   Robert Kiyosaki  7:38   Thank you, Keith. You know, nobody's more surprised about the success of Rich Dad Poor Dad than me, because it was turned down by every publisher in New York. It was like Simon and Schuster and all these guys, and they said, Why are you turning it down? They said, You don't know what you're talking about. It was consensus about the five editors of different book companies was what you're saying doesn't make sense, that's how strange it was back 1997 and now it's the number one in the world.   Keith Weinhold  8:10   This is often how it is when something strikes someone differently, like the Star Wars movies had difficulty getting traction because it was so unusual, and fortunately, Robert, today the consensus among readers has seen that, oh my gosh, Rich Dad Poor Dad changed my thinking more than anything else. The contrarian thinker,   Robert Kiyosaki  8:34   you know, strike Rich Dad, Poor Dad. My poor dad was academic, you know, PhD, yeah. So he'd be the kind of guy that says your book makes no sense, whereas my rich dad never went to school because his father died when he was 13 and he had to take over the family business. So much of a young person's life is predicated upon their parents or where the family or the culture you come from, and I've been studying more of that, like let's say I was raised in Alabama, I'd have a southern accent but because of the environment it presents it upon you, as the same as money, if a child is born into a poor family, or in my case an academic family, the value systems are all different. My family, and it's still true today. Got to go to school, get a job, and get a pension with the government. That's their whole belief system, and they're so proud of this. Is my brothers and uncles, and all that. They're so proud when their child has what's called a GS, and a government service pension, that's the whole idea on finance, get that pension, job security,   Keith Weinhold  9:49   yeah,   Speaker 1  9:49   nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong with it, but a lot of times we can't hear something because of what's been compressed into us by our culture, our. Family, so my, you know, my poor dad was always, you have to get your PhD, or what? God got a PhD. So my brothers and sisters, their kids are all getting their PhDs. It's fascinating. It's fascinating.   Keith Weinhold  10:14   Yeah, when your poor dad tells you you need to get your PhD, and you're asking for what? Maybe the answer was for him. So our parents, yes, they're often our first teachers.   Speaker 2  10:25   It's just values, very different values. And the more I kind of study it, I don't think I'm a good student of it, but there's this thing called a paradigm matrix, and a paradigm matrix is what is like a cookie cutter, so like father, like son, you know, like mother, like daughter, so much of our lives are transferred by our parents and our schools and things like this, and so that's why Rich Dad Poor Dad, for some people it works, but when it first came out, 1997 as you said, it was strange. I said, you know, the savers were losers, and today everybody knows inflation is going to the roof. I said, your house is not an asset. I got hammered for that one.   Keith Weinhold  11:11   Right.   Speaker 1  11:11   Rich don't work for money. Those are my three rich dad rules. Rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I built Rich Dad Poor Dad around those three rules. I didn't follow my poor dad, those were his guiding lights. You know, you have to have job security, and you have to have a government pension, and my house is my biggest asset. And so you can't hear the person because you already have that paradigm magic, or that cookie cutter inside of you. This is my value system in my family. If I didn't get my PhD, I was stupid. I never got one. But anyway, you know,   Keith Weinhold  11:50   just because you believe something for a long time doesn't make it true,   Speaker 1  11:55   correct? And what's happening? Because I wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad, because I could see this economic times coming, 1971 named Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, and I knew at that time we're going to have hyperinflation, so that it hasn't hit us quite yet. 1971 was august 15. Nixon's taking the dollar off the gold standard, and you watch what's going to happen next few years. We're going to have hyperinflation that we've never seen before, and it's gonna make the poor and middle class poorer. The rich will get richer, but poor and middle class will get poorer. Tragically,   Keith Weinhold  12:30   that is such an appropriate time to bring this up, Robert, because a lot of people are drawing parallels between the 1970s two waves of inflation during that decade, and what's going on today. I mean, there is so much fuel now that could ignite higher inflation. You've got the cumulative effects of the Iran war and the energy shocks and bottled up supply chains. And Robert, I don't know if you've heard it yet, but you and I's mutual friend, Dr. Chris Martinson, yeah, peak prosperity, there, Chris Martinson, he recently said that he would not be surprised to see 18 to 20% annual inflation in the next two to three years. That's exactly what he said.   Speaker 2  13:12   Yeah, but it's good for those who have assets, right? You see what, when things inflate, you know, like chickens and eggs and milk go up, but so do assets go up, most of them, like gold and silver, will go up, but the purchasing of the dollar will come down. Inflation is a tax, that's all it is.   Keith Weinhold  13:33   So much potential for inflation there, and a lot of this really ties in with debt, about how debtors can be enriched inflation. I think about the cantillion effect, meaning that in inflationary times those closest to the money printer win, and that usually tends to be governments, large banks, corporations with easy credit scores, but a lot of people don't realize that we can benefit from that too is everyday investors that use leverage prudent debt,   Speaker 1  14:05   right, and tell you, in effect, is basically what interest rate can you get, and how easy is money for you, and I use debt, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt, and that scares the crap out of most people, but I use debt to get rich, and most people use debt to get poor, and again, that's family, what your education says. So, a lot has to do with early childhood development, and all that stuff. The more I study it, it really goes back to before a child was like 15. The cookie cutter has been cut.   Keith Weinhold  14:36   Yes, it goes back to not always having to believe everything that you think.   Speaker 2  14:40   We all have access to education. I have my cash flow game here. I teach people how to use debt, and Dave Ramsey says don't use debt. Well, he's a smart man too, Dave. I like him a lot, and most people should listen to Dave Ramsey, but if you're going to use debt, you'd better take some education, so. To go 1,000,000,002 in debt, man, you better know something. People aren't living paycheck to paycheck, they're living credit card to credit card now, and getting wiped out. I hate to laugh, but it's so obvious. You go, because they have no financial education, and that's why my book was turned down by all those academics in New York City, the publishers say, you don't know what you're talking about. How can I say your house is not an asset? How can I say savers are losers? How can I say the rich don't work for money? And that's what Don't Rich Dad Poor Dad on. And now it's been an international best seller, number one in the world for like 25 years.    Keith Weinhold  15:39   Yeah, well, it's so interesting that you bring up Dave Ramsey here, Robert. He often gets his followers to make a debt-free scream when they're debt free, and you know what I think, Robert, for those that scream that they're debt free, what they're doing is they're postponing screaming that they're job free or job optional, they could have been prudently leveraging dollars for profit, instead, like you and I do.   Speaker 2  16:06    Well, let me just say, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for most people. I'm saying, if you're going to learn to use debt, you know, if all you want is a job and a pension, you don't have to study that much. The biggest mistake I think ever made was at 401 k. It's going to wipe out boomer generation. It's going to.. that's the memos. I wrote this book. Here's who stole my pension, and that's when it's going to nail the boomers. They're finished, because their pensions are going to get stolen. They're four 1k IRAs. They're finished, but they do.. they listen. No, they go, they send their kids to school to get their MBA and get a, get a 401 k.   Keith Weinhold  16:46   Well, I kind of think when you have education around debt, you sort of understand this difference between productive debt and what I'll call ego debt. So, can you talk to us more about what kinds of debt make people rich today and what kinds of debt can quietly destroy them.   Speaker 2  17:02   Well, they should read Rich Dad Poor Dad. Really, I'm serious. That's all it is about, really, is I use debt to get rich, and Dave Ramsey's advice is good for those who don't want to study. So, if you're a PhD in microbiology, and you're a doctor, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for you, because you have no financial education, it's not between your right ear and your left ear. So, I had to study debt, that's the difference. It's what we study.   Keith Weinhold  17:29   And for those that are uninitiated on this, what we're talking about here is, if you've got, say, 200k to invest in real estate, and real estate's going to go up 5% a year. Okay, if you pay all cash, you only have a 5% gain on your 200k but if you get an 800k loan and now you invest in a million dollars worth of real estate, you have that entire million dollars going up 5% not just 200k and you have the tenants servicing the 800k in debt for you. This is really the path to wealth through debt, which is counterintuitive.   Speaker 1  18:02   You don't just get into debt. I mean, you really got to understand debt, and real estate doesn't always go up. It's about to crash again, and I like crashes. Don't get me wrong, I love crashes, because a crash in a stock market, bond market, real estate market is something going on sale, so like if Walmart had a sale, every poor person would run in there, but when the real estate market has a sale, all the poor people run away. I like crashes, that's when you get rich, one's coming big time, big time.   Keith Weinhold  18:33   Well, I want to learn more about that, because residential real estate in our lifetimes has only fallen significantly one time, that was in 2008 and circumstances are so different today. Today, you have responsible lending, and you don't have this oversupply that you had in 2008 So, tell us more about a potential real estate crash that's going to interest a lot of people.   Speaker 1  18:53   Well, real estate crashes, because the currency crashes. It's really the problem with the world today, and this is the whole world, is America is now what, the biggest debtor nation in world history.   Keith Weinhold  19:05   Yeah,   Speaker 1  19:05   39 trillion or something like that. And Japan is a bunch of idiots on Japanese, I can say that they save money. Why would you save money when Japan was the biggest money printer of all times? That'd be like somebody you know, sticking water in your gas tank. Why would you go and fill up with water? But that's what the Japanese were doing. They're saving money. It makes no sense. I mean, I just.. I'm just a different person, you know. I just didn't go to school like my family did. I mean, I have a college education and all that, but I studied different things after school. I studied debt, I studied real estate, and that's the big difference. So, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt. So, in 2008 when the market crashed, you know, I borrowed 30 million bucks and leveled it up with 1,000,000,002 in debt.   Keith Weinhold  19:52   Good timing   Speaker 1  19:53   should not do what I do, but I studied it since 1974 It's debt that's not. Right now today we have oil going up. My college degree is in oil. I'm an oil tanker driver. I drove oil tankers with Standard Oil. I'm making fortunes today as the price of oil goes up, so you know, more Netanyahu and Trump bomb Iran, terrible as it is. I'm getting richer, so you don't have to be poor, but you're poor because that gap between your left ear and your right ear is empty, you know. You've been taught inflation's bad. Well, inflation is good if you're holding oil or gold or silver or some real estate. Anyway, most people have no financial education. That's why I created the cash flow board game, so you can have fun learning how to be rich. If you don't want to learn to be rich, then go to school and get your PhD.   Keith Weinhold  20:47   Sometimes, when people don't understand how real estate debt benefits them, one way I've helped people understand Robert is that, say, you have a loan balance of 112k on a piece of real estate today, that feels really small. It almost feels like something that you can pay off with what you have in your savings account, but if you go back 30 years, when the median home price is 140k 80% debt on that would have been 112k So here, 30 years later, with your 30 year fixed rate loan, you still just have that 112k in debt, while the median home price is over 400k and that's even if you hadn't made a principal payment at all, so it's really a way to visualize how inflation starts shrinking the real weight of our debt over time.   Speaker 1  21:31   My advice is I would study debt, so I take real estate courses, I'm always studying, I'm studying constantly, because the markets are changing so quickly. The biggest problem today started in 1971 when Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. So, we're the biggest detonation in world history. I think we're going into a depression right now. So, depression plus AI coming along is going to wipe out jobs. I'm going to get richer. What are you going to do? So, I'm already planning for the future, the people that get rich can see the future. So, when you say, well, you know, back in 2008 it only crashed for a little while. Then, okay, so what? And history has proven in 1971 Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. Every nation has collapsed. Who did that? The Chinese did it, the Romans did it, the Greeks did it, Germans did it. They print money, and so that's the real issue. It's not debt, but it's also the economic macro problems that keep going into the world. The dollar is coming down, and I'm afraid that we're going into a global depression. I hope I'm wrong, like Grant Cardone, and I have fights all the time about it, you know, because he's a big proponent of that. Real estate always goes up, it doesn't always go up,   Keith Weinhold  22:47   right?   Speaker 1  22:47   It doesn't always go up. The stock market doesn't always go up. The bond market's crashing. Everybody says, "Oh, bonds are safe. The bond market's in the biggest bubble in world history. We're going into a depression. So, what are you going to do about it? I'm afraid America is going to crash because we've taken on Iran, and Iran's a powerful, powerful force out there. I'm not in favor of it, but everybody who's messed with Iran has got kicked. So just note that as this look at history, you can see the future, but you have to be careful in the issue you follow. So, 1971 I was on an aircraft carrier in Vietnam, and my rich dad wrote me a letter. I was a marine helicopter pilot, went down three times. Rich Dad wrote me lessons. Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, watch out, and immediately I started buying gold. So, I started buying gold at $50 an ounce to today is what, four or 5000   Keith Weinhold  23:43   Yeah,   Speaker 1  23:44   the trouble with gold is you pay high taxes on it, constant taxes too. Good luck to learn, Keith. 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History will see this, you'll see the future. So, this is my good friend here, McDonald. You know why he wants you to get rich, and it's this one man, one message.   Keith Weinhold  26:06   Robert's holding up a book now.   Speaker 1  26:08   You've got to get educated on money, but most people won't, so they got a 401 k, and they live debt free. Good advice. Will it protect them? No, it won't protect them from a, you know, if you lose your job, AI takes it away, or is a massive crash, but we've never been in this much debt before to you. Black generation is screwed, boomers and boomers are screwed, because we're the first generation with a four 1k that was 1974 1974 also Kissinger went to Saudi Arabia to sign the dollar up back by oil, and today my buddy here, Trump is bombing the crap out of Iran. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but the price of oil is going through the roof now. Everybody's complaining about it because of inflation, so chicken and eggs go up in price, you know. Diesel delivers chicken and eggs all over the world. I'm getting richer because I own oil wells, you see. You don't have to be poor, but you better question what they put between your left ear and your right ear. What did Mommy and Daddy tell you? Go to school, get a job, get a job with a government service. My daughter's a GS, she's got a master's from Washington State University losers,   Keith Weinhold  27:24   this untethering of the dollar from gold in 1971 that meant that there is no sovereign currency in the world today that's still tied to gold, allowing for more money printing and enriching over time debtors like you and I, but Robert, we think about how debtors are profiting, and you spoke earlier about how oftentimes your parents put all of these values inside you. How do you emotionally tolerate having a lot of debt yourself? You talked about having $1.2 billion in debt. How do you emotionally deal with that?   Speaker 1  28:00   I study, I take courses. I'm constantly in seminars studying debt. I don't study a 401 ks or bonds, that's for losers. But this is the biggest point, Keith. You got to find out. My rich had always said to me, says there's a billion ways to financial heaven. So, there's what, 8 billion people on planet earth, and 1 billion of the eight may make it to financial heaven, but there's 7 billion to financial hell, and the difference is what's between your left ear and your right ear, and that's why you may choose what you learn carefully, cash flow game, study it, have fun, practice, play, learn, but if you don't want to learn, then follow Dave Ramsey's advice. That's much better. It's better for you, really. I'm serious. And get your PhD and get a 401 k and get wiped out when you lose your job. It's up to you.   Keith Weinhold  28:54   Yeah, I mean, the debt-free mindset probably is better for most people, but I think you shouldn't aspire to want to be like most people. Most people are overweight, and they have a busted relationship, and they don't have enough money at the end of the month. So we're really not aspiring to be mediocre here, and that can mean taking on prudent debt. You wrote something in a book one time, I don't think it was Rich Dad Poor Dad, it was one of your later books. This is so simple, but I found it to be so profound and life-changing for me. And that is simply being wealthy is a choice   Speaker 1  29:28   that doesn't, what you want, it's your choice, but you better know what your choices are. What did Mommy and Daddy say to you? But also, were they doing in front of you?   Keith Weinhold  29:39   Right,   Speaker 1  29:40   were they cleaning for job security or were they buying coil wells? Like, I own Bitcoin, but they'll recommend it now. I study it. I don't really understand it that well. I have 5049 Bitcoin, not much, but as inflation goes up, my Bitcoin goes up. Also, have in theory. I'm old. I don't understand tech that well, but I buy it to learn it, to practice, to study it. Am I an expert at Bitcoin? No. So I just keep studying, that's all I'm saying. I have a choice how to put between this year and that year. That's your choice today.   Keith Weinhold  30:18   Well, that's really interesting, Robert, because some people say that you should only invest in something that you understand well, others say that you're only going to understand something well if you invest a little in it first and have a stake. Well, is there any last thought that you have, Robert, as we wind up, anything at all that a listener should know today?   Speaker 1  30:39   No, I mean, I just said it, that's it. Choose what you put between your left brain and right ear, and what do you do? What do you do in your spare time? Like studying, you can ask the people around me. I'm constantly studying, you know, because I like to win. I'm very concerned, Keith. We're going into the biggest depression in history. So, what happens when you lose your job and you can't put food on the table, that's gonna create another problem. So, I'm a big pessimist, but I'm ready for it. I have a lot of guns, so the, I call it the 5g's Okay, you have to have gold, food, I mean ground, gasoline, and guns, that's preparing for the future, the 5g will be gold, gas, ground, food, guns.   Keith Weinhold  31:27   Well, Robert, you gave us a lot to think about there, including some actionable things. It's been great having you back on the show.   Speaker 1  31:32   Okay. Well, thank you. Keep up the good work.   Keith Weinhold  31:40   I believe Robert feels that a calming economic depression would be linked to the longer term calamity about the dollar being de-pegged from gold for about 55 years now. His 1.2 billion in debt is largely, if not completely, good debt. You can learn more about Robert and the Rich Dad world@richdad.com and he and I talked more off air. As much as he stresses financial education, he emphasizes taking action after you've learned; otherwise, you really haven't gained much of anything. But the rat race is so busy that some people don't have time to care about this stuff. In fact, the difference between financial education and financial courage is action taking. That's the difference. Now, in my view, it seems that some feel like financial betterment means cutting your expenses so much that you reduce your standard of living even over the long term, and doing that for the long term, you might do some of that in the short term, earlier in your investing career, because you need some capital formation, but to me, before long, financial betterment should give you the ability to make your life better. I mean, really don't buy the boat or RV just because it's a depreciating asset. Well, you don't want to do that wastefully if you can't afford it, but if you can learn how to afford it, consider borrowing for it, investing it at a higher interest rate than the RV loan, and profiting while you enjoy the RV, some people don't even think something like that is possible. Well, that's the sort of thing financial education can do. Genuine financial betterment means that you can take the trip, it means that you can buy the boat, because what's worse, owning a depreciating asset or living a depreciating life. Big thanks to Robert Kiyosaki.    Keith Weinhold  33:47   Today, we've got a lot of great upcoming shows here on the Get Rich Education podcast. Next week, The Mad Scientist of Multifamily, Neil Bower, will be here. It's going to be a charged conversation on the state and the future of the residential real estate market. Also, I've been compiling my top 12 dirty dozen due diligence questions that are going to help you avoid mistakes when you buy a piece of income property, like for example, How do you be sure that a build to rent community isn't overbuilt with supply, and why you should always get a property inspection, even on a new construction property that's coming in future weeks, and if you're a new listener and still learning about how to prudently use debt to build wealth, you're in luck. Just eight weeks ago, on episode 600 it's an episode where it's just me talking to you, called Debt is the American dream. Be sure to check out that show until next week. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. In In the Spirit of Rich Dad, don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 3  34:52   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business. Professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.   Keith Weinhold  35:18   The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, Get Rich education.com  

A retirement is a terrible thing to waste. Don’t just retire. Design your new phase of life – with intention. Our next groups start in September. The very early registration discount ends June 21st. Learn more. ________________________ Retirement rarely unfolds exactly as planned. For Jerry Goodstein, retirement began with a clear sense of direction and a meaningful endeavor. But unexpected challenges, a deeply emotional experience helping his daughter move across the country, and an encounter with the world of ADHD coaching changed everything. In this conversation, Jerry shares how his retirement story became less about executing a blueprint and more about learning how to “turn into the swerve”  by staying open to reinvention, purpose, lifelong learning, and becoming someone new later in life. This is a thoughtful conversation about identity, letting go, service, and the surprising ways purpose can evolve, over time and in ways you may not expect, after retirement. In This Conversation, You'll Learn Why God laughs at your retirement plans How unexpected “swerves” can open new directions in life The opportunities to repurpose your skills in retirement Why letting go of identity is often difficult for high achievers How lifelong learning can reignite energy, curiosity and engagement What coaching taught Jerry about listening and presence Why service became more important than living a life of leisure ___________________________ Bio Jerry Goodstein is Professor Emeritus, Carson College of Business, Department of Management, Information Systems, and Entrepreneurship at Washington State University. Dr. Goodstein received his Ph.D. in Business Administration from the University of California, Berkeley, and his MBA and BA in Economics and Geography from the University of California, Los Angeles. He conducted research and taught business ethics, leadership, and strategy at the undergraduate and graduate levels for over three decades at Washington State University and the University of Illinois. His research on restorative justice in organizations, corporate and stakeholder responsibility, and second chance hiring has been published in leading management and business ethics journals. He is co-editor, along with Dr. Mary Gentile, of Giving Voice to Values: An Innovation and Impact Agenda, published in 2021. After retiring from Washington State University in May 2020, Dr. Goodstein continued work he had begun in 2019 to bring together businesses, criminal justice partners, and community-based organizations to develop employment-based opportunities for formerly incarcerated men and women. In January 2023 Dr. Goodstein made a major retirement/life shift to become a Certified ADHD Life Coach. He founded Where You Are ADHD after completing his ADHD life coaching program in December 2023. Since then, he has been coaching youth (teens and tweens) with ADHD. Dr. Goodstein partners with public and community-based organizations, especially those working with at-risk youth, to support both youth and their families in meeting the ADHD-related challenges they are facing in their lives. __________________________ For More onn Jerry Goodstein Where You Are ADHD _________________________ Retirement Podcast Conversations You’ll Also Love The Inspired Retirement – Nathalie Martin The Best Day of My Life So Far – Benita Cooper Changing the World One Small Act at a Time – Brad Aronson ________________________ Wise Quotes On Being Open to Reality “There are just some unanticipated swerves that come up…Turn into the swerve…Don't turn against it.” On Becoming a Beginner Again “It absolutely feels like a new beginning for me….“It's never too late to learn. It's never too late to evolve.” On Purpose “I don't think of myself as retired anymore….I've repurposed my purpose.” _______________________ About The Retirement Wisdom Podcast There are many podcasts on retirement, often hosted by financial advisors with their own financial motives, that cover the money side of the street. This podcast is different. You'll get smarter about the investment decisions you'll make about the most important asset you'll have in retirement: your time. About Retirement Wisdom I help people who are retiring, but aren't quite done yet, discover what's next and build their custom version of their next life. A meaningful retirement doesn't just happen by accident. Schedule a call today to discuss how the Designing Your Life process created by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans can help you make your life in retirement a great one — on your own terms. About Your Podcast Host Joe Casey is an executive coach who helps people design their next life after their primary career and create their version of The Multipurpose Retirement.™ He created his own next chapter after a 26-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking. Joe has earned Master's degrees from the University of Southern California in Gerontology (at age 60), the University of Pennsylvania, and Middlesex University (UK), a BA in Psychology from the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, and his coaching certification from Columbia University. In addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, ranked in the top 1% globally in popularity by Listen Notes, with over 2 million downloads. Business Insider recognized Joe as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He's the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.  

Forget McDonald’s and Chick-Fi-A Non-Food Franchising May be a Better Bet When most people think of starting a business, their minds immediately go to fast food. We've been conditioned to associate “franchising” with burgers, fries, and massive overhead. But in his game-changing book, “Non-food franchising: The Better Path to Business Ownership,” Jon Ostenson explains why you might want to leave the grease traps behind. This isn’t just about picking a different industry; it's about a fundamental shift in how you build wealth. Non-food franchising offers a gateway to high-margin, essential-service businesses that provide the stability the food industry often lacks. There is a profound emotional cost to staying in a corporate job that no longer serves you. We all crave a sense of agency over our own lives, and non-food franchising is designed to provide exactly that. Jon explores how these businesses—ranging from home services to specialized health care—allow “corporate refugees” to stop trading hours for dollars. It's about building a legacy that supports your family and your freedom, using a proven system that doesn’t require you to be the one performing the labor. If you've ever felt like your potential is being capped by a ceiling someone else built, this conversation will be your sledgehammer. During our live deep dive, we'll look at why the most successful investors are flocking to non-food franchising. These businesses are often “recession-resistant” because they provide services people need rather than just things they want. We will break down the semi-absentee model, showing you how to scale a portfolio of businesses while keeping your day job or enjoying your retirement. By focusing on non-food franchising, you minimize the complexity of high-turnover staff and perishable inventory, focusing instead on the “boring” businesses that produce exciting, consistent cash flow. You cannot afford to miss this high-impact session on A New Direction with Coach Jay. Join us live this Wednesday, May 27th at 5pm Eastern as we interview Jon Ostenson and pull back the curtain on the lucrative world of non-food franchising. Whether you're looking to diversify your investments or completely pivot your career, this episode will give you the roadmap to move forward with confidence. Tune in and discover why your next big move doesn’t have to involve a drive-thru window. Jon Ostenson‘s book, “Non-Food Franchising: The Better Path to Business Ownership” is one of those powerful books in a short read.  The fact is I learned more about non-food franchising in this 75-page book than I had learned in my lifetime.  In fact, the book was so good, it has got me thinking about investing in to a non-food franchising opportunity. What I found so great about the book is that it is an honest, simple look at why non-food franchising is such a great opportunity.  He looks at the pros and cons of comparing to food franchises.  He also compares to the challenges of starting your own business or perhaps purchasing someone else’s business. Now don’t think that what Jon Ostenson is saying is all butterflies and roses when it comes to franchising.  Because he is not.  He points out there is a risk.  And he also points out something else.  It is not for everyone.  The fact is you could be “TOO entrepreneurial” for a non-food franchise, because you like to tweak and do things your own way.  That’s where you need to put your ego aside, accepting some humility comes in. The book talks about the subject of how to get money, different avenues to get started, and a step-by-step process he uses.  He also discusses the documents that are reviewed and specific areas to pay very close attention to.  Glad I read it twice! To get your copy of “Non-Food Franchising” click here. Please thank our sponsors of A New Direction by going to their social media pages liking them and following them. “You tune in to A New Direction to grow your business and your mindset. But you can't move forward if you're worried about what's lurking in your inbox. That's where Data443 Cyren comes in. It's the industry standard for real-time email security and URL filtering. They stop phishing and malware before they strike, so you can focus on your success, not your safety. Don't let a cyberattack derail your journey. Go to Data443.com today and secure your future.“ Linda Craft Team, Realtors for more than 40 years they have been helping people all over the world take the stress out of real estate.  And they would love to help you! When Linda started the business she built it by reputation and one relationship at a time and that is a foundation that continues to be built today. They truly understand that when you think about your home it is more than bricks and mortar, you made memories there and you want someone who cares about those as much as possible as you do. When you are ready to sell or buy your home, start with the relationship builders and home transition experts.  Start with Linda Craft Team, Realtors… www.LindaCraft.com ABOUT YOUR HOST Meet Jay Izso Executive Performance Coach  |  Host of A New Direction Every week on A New Direction, I sit down with CEOs, founders, and the researchers behind the science of leadership performance. The conversations go deep. We talk about the decisions that built companies, the mistakes that nearly destroyed them, and the personal breakthroughs that changed everything. But here’s what most people don’t know about me: the show is an extension of the work I do every day with executives behind closed doors. Who I Am I’m an Executive Performance Coach. I work with CEOs and founders of $5M-$50M companies who have hit a wall they can’t explain. The marketing looks fine. The team is capable. The market is there. But the business won’t move. The problem, almost every time, is the person running it. I find the personal behavioral patterns that are driving the business dysfunction. Then I help the CEO disrupt those patterns so the company can grow. That’s it. No motivational platitudes. No vision boards. Diagnostics, intervention, results. Where This Comes From My approach comes from two places most coaches never set foot in. The farm. I grew up as a farmhand in Ithaca, Nebraska—population 100. I started working at nine years old. By the time I left for college, I’d spent a decade learning that you can’t cheat the harvest, pain is part of the job, and the work has to get done whether you feel like it or not. I was fourteen the first time I had to castrate boars. Nobody was going to do it for me. That lesson never left: sometimes you have to do things afraid. The forensic psychology unit. In graduate school at Washington State University, I trained under Dr. Thomas Brigham—co-author of the Handbook of Applied Behavior Analysis—in a human behavior lab focused on real-world problems. I then served in a Clinical Psych II role at Eastern State Hospital in Medical Lake, Washington, a forensic setting where I conducted psychological evaluations of individuals charged with the most serious criminal offenses. Sixteen months assessing human behavior at its most extreme taught me how to cut through defenses, identify what’s really driving someone’s decisions, and see what they can’t see in themselves.

Brady Carter, Ph.D. is the Chief Scientific Officer at Carter Scientific Solutions. He specializes in water activity, moisture sorption, shelf-life stability, plant science, and wheat production and quality. He has 23 years of experience in research and development and previously was a Research Professor at Washington State University focusing on wheat end-use quality. Dr. Carter has pioneered work in using dynamic isotherms to investigate product stability and establish critical water activities for optimal shelf life. He also specializes in shelf-life loss and effective utilization of instrumentation to address product safety and quality issues. Dr. Carter holds a Ph.D. in Crop Science and Food Engineering and an M.S degree in Cereal Chemistry and Crop Science from Washington State University, as well as a B.A. degree in Botany from Weber State University. In this episode of Food Safety Matters, we speak with Dr. Carter [41:18] about: The basics of water activity, including how it is measured and how it differs from moisture content The influence of water activity on food safety and shelf life, and how water activity data can support the validation of shelf-life claims Ways manufacturers can incorporate water activity into their shelf-life and food safety testing, and during research and development when formulating products Regulatory expectations around water activity monitoring as part of validation and verification The realities of water activity measurement that make real-time, inline testing impractical with current technology How water activity monitoring can help mitigate food waste The importance of the statement, "water activity is the energy of water." News and Resources News Donald Prater Becomes New Head of FDA Human Foods Program [16:54]FDA Commissioner Steps Down, To Be Replaced by Agency's Human Foods LeaderTop U.S. Food Safety Officials Discuss Regulatory Landscape at Food Safety Summit FDA Encourages Industry to Develop Best Practices, Use Root Cause Analyses [20:30] FDA Finalizes Systematic Post-Market Food Chemical Review Process [21:34] FDA Launches One-Day Inspectional Assessments [22:30] Scientists Tackle Food Waste with More Accurate 'Sell By' Dates Based on Meat Microbial Activity [27:42] Monitoring Data Show EU Food Mostly Compliant with Pesticide Limits [35:58] Resources Food Safety Rockstar T-Shirts on Amazon (BE ADVISED: they run small) We Want to Hear from You! Please send us your questions and suggestions to podcast@food-safety.com

In this episode of Tank Talks: The Rundown, Matt Cohen and John Ruffolo break down a huge week across Canadian tech, quantum computing, SPACs, AI infrastructure, vertical SaaS, and the reported SpaceX IPO filing. They start with Xanadu's $300 million at-the-market equity facility and what it reveals about the funding challenge facing Canadian quantum companies that need billion-dollar scale capital to compete globally.John argues that Xanadu should use current market hype to fully fund the business now, even if short-term shareholders hate the dilution. From there, Matt and John unpack why quantum remains a long-term binary bet, why SPACs may be coming back for Canadian growth companies like UniUni, and why Clio's jump from $100 million to more than $500 million in ARR proves vertical SaaS is far from dead, especially when the product is mission-critical and deeply embedded.The episode then shifts to OpenAI, Anthropic, and the AI infrastructure boom, with John warning that massive top-line revenue can hide dangerous burn and accounting optics. Matt and John close with a deep debate on the reported SpaceX IPO, Starlink's growth, Starship risk, xAI, and Cursor being folded into the story, SPV cap table chaos, and whether trillion-dollar tech IPOs could pull capital away from the Mag Seven.Listen to this episode for a sharper read on where capital is really flowing across AI, quantum, SaaS, and space. Matt and John cut through the hype to show which tech narratives are built to last, and which ones could crack under pressure.Xanadu's $300M ATM Facility and the Quantum Funding Problem (00:49)Matt opens with Xanadu's $300 million at-the-market equity facility, explaining how the structure gives the company access to capital while raising questions about dilution, public market volatility, and the long-term cost of funding a quantum data center.John Ruffolo's Advice: Fund the Business While the Market Is Hot (02:45)John explains why Xanadu should take advantage of momentum in the public markets and raise as much primary capital as possible, even if short-term shareholders dislike the dilution.Why SPACs Are Coming Back for Canadian Growth Companies (07:17)Matt brings up UniUni's $1 billion SPAC agreement to list on the TSX, and John explains why companies struggling to raise late-stage private capital may see SPACs as their best path to primary money.Could Clio Be Canada's Next Major Tech IPO? (10:56)As Clio's valuation grows, John argues that the universe of private equity buyers gets smaller, making an IPO one of the more realistic paths for investor liquidity.The Accounting Trick John Says AI Investors Need to Watch (12:23)John criticizes the capitalization of compute, infrastructure, sales, marketing, and partnership costs, arguing that burn may be a better proxy for the real economics than adjusted profitability claims.The Reported SpaceX IPO and the $1.75 Trillion Valuation Debate (14:20)Matt introduces the reported SpaceX IPO valuation and breaks down how much of the story depends on Starlink growth, Starship launches, and the company's ability to scale space-based broadband.Why Everything Hinges on Starship (18:51)John explains that Starship is the key dependency behind the SpaceX story, because Starlink's ability to scale depends heavily on launch capacity, satellite economics, and execution.SpaceX vs. Canadian Banks: The Scale Shock (22:37)Matt points out that the reported SpaceX valuation could be roughly twice the combined market cap of Canada's big six banks, underscoring the staggering scale of the next wave of tech IPOs.The Early Investors Who May Win Big (25:26)Matt and John close by highlighting early institutional bets from Washington State University's endowment and Ontario Teachers, showing how patient capital in breakthrough companies can create generational outcomes.Connect with John Ruffolo on LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/joruffoloConnect with Matt Cohen on LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/matt-cohen1Visit the Ripple Ventures website: https://www.rippleventures.com/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit tanktalks.substack.com

Whether or not you call yourself religious, there's no denying that religion has an impact on society across the continents. And there is no faith more dominant than Christianity in the United States today. Washington State University professor and historian Matthew A. Sutton can show you just exactly how evangelical Christianity entwines itself with all aspects of the country. Drawing from his book, Chosen Land: How Christianity Made America and Americans Remade Christianity, Sutton chronicles Christians' five-hundred-year endeavor to turn the U.S. into their version of the kingdom of God. In the centuries after Christianity first arrived on American shores, colonizers (and the colonized) practiced many varieties of the faith. Throughout the nation's history, Christianity has maintained influence and power through new and evolving strains of its faith. As U.S. Christianity has fractured and adapted to changing times, the religion has shaped everything from the promise of Manifest Destiny to Ronald Reagan's approach to the Cold War, the rise of the Southern Lost Cause narrative, to the triumphs of the Civil Rights Movement. Through Sutton's research, he explains how faith affects human behavior, which ultimately shapes the world we make. Tracing the faith's major figures and currents, Sutton pinpoints how U.S. Christianity — always both steadfast and precarious — lives at the center of the nation's shared history. Matthew Avery Sutton is the Claudius O. and Mary Johnson Distinguished Professor and department chair in History at Washington State University. He is the author of five other books on the history of American Christianity, including Double Crossed and American Apocalypse, and the recipient of a Guggenheim fellowship. He lives in Pullman, Washington. Bill Radke hosts Week In Review at KUOW. Before that, he created and hosted the NPR humor show Rewind and hosted the Marketplace Morning Report, covering the day's national/international business news. He's been a KUOW reporter, news director, and interview host; also, a stand-up comedian and Seattle P-I newspaper columnist. Buy the Book Chosen Land: How Christianity Made America and Americans Remade Christianity Third Place Books  

In this episode of Connecting the Dots, I sit down with Dr. Nancy Swanger, Founding Director of the Granger Cobb Institute for the Business of Aging at Washington State University, to talk about what it takes to prepare the next generation of senior living leaders.Nancy shares the origin story of the Institute, which began through a collaboration between Washington State University and senior living industry leaders who saw a natural connection between hospitality, business education, and aging services. She explains why the “business of aging” extends beyond traditional senior living and into the broader ecosystem of organizations, vendors, operators, and professionals serving an aging population.The conversation also explores the Institute's professional development certificate program, how it supports workforce development, and why senior living needs more people who understand both the heart of the work and the business fundamentals required to lead well.At the center of the conversation is a powerful reminder: technical skills can be taught, but caring has to come first.Guest Bio:Dr. Nancy Swanger is the Founding Director of the Granger Cobb Institute for the Business of Aging at Washington State University. Through the Institute, Nancy helps connect hospitality education, business fundamentals, and senior living industry expertise to prepare students and professionals for meaningful careers in aging services. Her work focuses on workforce development, leadership education, and expanding awareness of the many career pathways available in the business of aging.Episode Highlights:02:44 — The origin of the Granger Cobb InstituteNancy shares how the Institute began with industry leaders who saw an opportunity to connect hospitality education, business fundamentals, and senior living.04:43 — What “the business of aging” really meansNancy explains why the field goes beyond senior living alone, touching adjacent businesses, congregate living, hospitality, and aging services.06:33 — Why the professional development certificate was createdNancy discusses the workforce gap the program was built to address, especially for emerging leaders already in the industry and professionals transitioning from other fields.09:12 — An industry-driven approach to educationNancy emphasizes that the curriculum was shaped by senior living professionals, not just academics, so learners receive practical, real-world knowledge.11:18 — What changed in version 2.0 of the certificate programThe program has expanded from 7 to 14 modules, adding topics like AI in seniors housing, navigating resident loss, dining experience, and more flexible credential options.14:33 — Why financial literacy matters in senior livingNancy and Matt discuss why every leader needs to understand the numbers, including the idea that there is “no margin, no mission.”16:06 — Who the program is designed forNancy outlines the ideal audience: emerging leaders in senior living, middle-management professionals, and people with transferable skills from industries like hospitality.17:56 — The heart and mindset senior living leaders needNancy explains why relationship-building, empathy, work ethic, and genuine care are essential in serving an aging population.20:22 — Building the future of aging services leadershipNancy looks ahead to how universities, operators, and hospitality programs can work together to attract more people into careers in senior living and aging services.Shoutout to our sponsor, Parasol Alliance, a Senior Living IT MSP

Episode 171 of the Taproom Podcast: host Mike sits down with Shanleigh Thomson (aka @shan.ferments) for an in-depth conversation about her brewing journey — from agriculture and protein chemistry to Diageo, UC Davis Master Brewers, roles at BSG, Yakima Chief and Roy Farms, and her work teaching brewing programs at Washington State University and UC Davis. The episode covers hop terroir and Terroir Tuesdays, sourcing and supply-chain challenges, fresh‑hop practices, international brewing curiosities (including New Zealand harvests), and the role of education in the craft industry. Shanleigh also shares stories from regional beer scenes, festival life (CBC, World Beer Cup), and how the brewing community supports innovation and resilience. Listeners will hear Shanleigh's beer preferences (West Coast IPAs, dry‑hopped pilsners, ESB), chats about style evolution and naming, practical tips on reading ingredient sourcing, her current curiosities (hangover aids like ZBiotics, low‑ABV yeast developments), and lighthearted segments on travel, guilty pleasures, and situational beers. Key takeaways: the value of transparency in sourcing and malt/hop origins, why community and education matter in craft beer, and a rallying call to support local breweries — plus what to expect from upcoming Taproom episodes and festival appearances.

Dr. Matt Fricke was raised in Hawaii. He started his undergraduate education at a small private college and finished it as well as his veterinary degree at Washington State University, earning his DVM in 1994.After graduation, he entered small animal practice in Iowa for one year, then relocated to a practice in Springfield, Oregon, where he remains to this day.He is certified in acupuncture by IVAS and in Animal Normalization Therapy by Patricia Kortekaas. He is also certified in Veterinary Chinese Herbal Medicine by A Time to Heal, and completed the Veterinary Orthopedic Manipulation course. He has also been a teaching assistant for both the IVAS acupuncture course as well as the ANT training courses, as well as lecturing extensively.Dr. Fricke has been actively involved in organized veterinary medicine. He has served various roles for the Wild West Veterinary Conference, from Moderator to Integrative Medicine Track Chair to Conference President. He has also served on the Executive Board, including as President, of the American Academy of Veterinary Acupuncture. He currently serves as the AAVA Delegate to the AVMA House of Delegates.Please enjoy this conversation with Dr. Matt Fricke as we discuss his education, practice experience, and volunteer work in organized veterinary medicine.

Jane found her way to science via her high school biology class and earned her PhD studying trout and salmon evolution. After research positions at Washington State University and The Jackson Laboratory, Jane transitioning to teaching high school biology, which she did for for 10 years. She then launched the MDI Water Quality Coalition and later joined MDI Biolab to focus on environmental health research, particularly investigating arsenic and PFAS contamination in drinking water.  This conversation was recorded in March 2026. ~~~~~The Maine Science Podcast is a production of the Maine Discovery Museum. It is recorded at Discovery Studios, at the Maine Discovery Museum, in Bangor, ME. The Maine Science Podcast is hosted and executive produced by Kate Dickerson; edited and produced by Scott Loiselle. The Discover Maine theme was composed and performed by Nick Parker. To support our work: https://www.mainediscoverymuseum.org/donate. Find us online:Maine Discovery MuseumMaine Discovery Museum on social media: Facebook Instagram LinkedIn Bluesky YouTubeMaine Science Podcast on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTubeMaine Science Festival on social media: Facebook Instagram LinkedIn YouTube© 2026 Maine Discovery Museum

Most conversations about sustainable agriculture focus on practices—what to plant, how to till, or cover crop secrets. But what if the future of healthy soils and resilient farms hinges on something deeper? Dr. Natalie Sturm, Dakota Lakes Research Farm's new farm manager, reveals how long-term crop rotations—and specifically the power of crop residue—are shaping the next generation of regenerative farming. Discover how Dakota Lakes is pioneering research that shows soils with consistent root biomass and high-residue crops outperform even the most diverse rotations at building organic matter and restoring soil function. Natalie shares behind-the-scenes insights from 30+ years of no-till management and her own scientific journey from suburban Chicago to the heart of South Dakota. She explains how farm-scale systems, like five-year perennial sequences and livestock integration, can drastically reduce soil erosion, combat salinity, and increase farm profitability without relying on the latest chemical fixes. You'll learn about innovative strategies such as virtual fencing for livestock, energy independence through on-farm biodiesel, and the critical importance of research that cuts through the marketing noise of the “ag industrial complex.” Natalie delves into how long-term, systems-based research can serve as a blueprint for farms across the country—whether you're in the Midwest trying to restore saline soils or a California grower exploring perennial grasses. Timestamps: 0:01:18 - The legacy of Dwayne Beck and the importance of long-term research 0:04:32 - Cropping systems diversity and crop management practices 0:06:25 - The role of crop rotation and residue in soil health 0:13:13 - Agroecology principles and ecological benefits in farming 0:16:21 - Livestock integration, virtual fencing, and animal management innovations 0:19:26 - Summer field days and farmer engagement 0:22:45 - Equipment innovations for no-till and residue management 0:39:01 - Residue management and its impact on soil health 0:47:36 - Education events and farm tours for farmers and researchers 0:49:46 - Innovations in energy independence and renewable energy on the farm 0:52:20 - Replicating Dakota Lakes' model in other regions 0:54:18 - Building networks for collaborative research and adaptation 0:55:37 - Dr. Sturm's visionary outlook for the next 20-40 years About our Guest (credit: https://www.sdstate.edu/news/2026/03/sturm-returns-dakota-lakes-research-farm-next-farm-manager) Dr. Natalie Sturm conducts agronomic field research at the Dakota Lakes Research Farm. Sturm conducted research at the Dakota Lakes Research Fam as part of her master's degree. She is now replacing her former mentor, Dwayne Beck, who retired after more than 35 years of service. Sturm completed her bachelor's degree in sustainable food and bioenergy systems at Montana State University, her master's in plant science at South Dakota State University and her doctorate in soil science at Washington State University. In her first few months on the job, she plans on learning as much as possible about the farm's daily operations and meeting the local farmers, scientists and stakeholders that support the Dakota Lakes mission. The Dakota Lakes Research Farm is a unique partnership between the SDSU College of Agriculture, Food and Environmental Sciences and the Dakota Lakes Corporation, a nonprofit, farmer-led organization that owns the farmland and provides input on how research performed on the farm can best impact farmers. The research is conducted by SDSU faculty and staff through South Dakota Agricultural Experiment Station funding. Both entities are committed to conducting research that allows South Dakotans to make more informed decisions on their operations. Annually held on the last Thursday in June, this year's Dakota Lakes Research Farm Field Day is on June 25, beginning at 3 p.m. More info: https://dakotalakes.com/

On this episode of Bridge the Gap, Josh and Lucas sit down with Nancy Swanger of the Granger Cobb Institute for Business of Aging at Washington State University. Nancy shares the origin story of the program and how it has grown into a pioneering academic pathway preparing students for careers in senior living. Nancy highlights the powerful role of purpose-driven work in attracting the next generation. She also discusses how industry collaboration, mentorship, and real-world exposure are key to the program's success, and why the future of senior housing depends on innovative workforce solutions.Key Topics CoveredThe founding story of the Granger Cobb InstituteHow hospitality education connects to senior living careersThe evolution from a single course to a full degree programIndustry partnerships driving curriculum and student successWorkforce challenges and opportunities in senior housingShifting perceptions among younger generationsThe importance of purpose-driven careersOnline education and professional development pathwaysSuccess stories of students entering the industryThe future of aging services educationMeet the Hosts:Josh Crisp: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshcrispsocial/Lucas McCurdy: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucasmccurdyseniorlivingfan/Connect with Our GuestNancy Swanger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancyswanger/ Learn More about the Granger Cobb Institutehttps://business.wsu.edu/granger-cobb-institute-for-business-aging/Produced by Grit and Gravel Marketing.Become a sponsor of Bridge the Gap.

Christopher Whitcomb's book on the Idaho student murders presents itself as an investigation into unresolved evidence questions. When each major claim is checked against on-the-record responses from law enforcement, prosecutors, and the defense team itself, the foundation doesn't hold.This week's True Crime Today review examines the most consequential Kohberger case developments — a point-by-point analysis of the book's claims, the public disavowal of its primary source, and the civil litigation that represents the actual unresolved accountability in this case.Brent Turvey's chain of custody allegation regarding the Ka-Bar knife sheath centers on a claim about documentation irregularities. Moscow's police chief has stated publicly that the department employs electronic barcodes — not the handwritten log system Turvey's allegation requires. The Othram DNA laboratory involvement that the book characterizes as irregular is a standard component of genetic genealogy investigations. The second-attacker theory is contradicted by Kohberger's own guilty plea as a sole actor — entered with a trial date weeks away and with full awareness that identifying a co-conspirator would have been his most significant leverage for a reduced sentence.Kohberger's defense attorneys — Ann Taylor, Elisa Massoth, and Bicka Barlow — issued a public statement calling Turvey's media conduct "appalling" and stating he was retained exclusively for crime scene analysis. They accuse him of violating his confidentiality agreement and speaking on matters outside his retained expertise. Whitcomb himself told NewsNation the book contains no smoking gun and no secret evidence.Bryan Kohberger had access to every argument this book contains. He had a trial date. He had a defense team prepared to litigate. He entered a guilty plea to four counts of first-degree murder. The families of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin have filed suit against Washington State University alleging the institution failed to act on formal stalking complaints. That civil action addresses the systemic failure the criminal case could not — and represents the substantive legal question still outstanding.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#BryanKohberger #IdahoMurders #BrokenPlea #BrentTurvey #AnnTaylor #ChainOfCustody #KnifeSheath #DNAEvidence #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

The man behind the biggest claims in the new Idaho murders book has been publicly disavowed by the people who hired him. Criminologist Brent Turvey — the primary source for Christopher Whitcomb's book — was called out by Ann Taylor, Elisa Massoth, and Bicka Barlow in a statement saying they are "appalled" by his media appearances. They said he was retained solely for crime scene analysis and is now speaking on subjects beyond his scope. They accused him of violating his confidentiality agreement. His own defense team is telling the public not to take him seriously.This week's Hidden Killers review brings together the most critical Kohberger case conversations — focused on what the book actually contains versus what holds up when you check it against the record.We went through every major claim. The chain of custody allegation Turvey calls "fabricated"? Moscow PD has stated they use electronic barcodes, not the handwritten logs Turvey's claim depends on. The Othram DNA lab story? Standard genetic genealogy procedure, not evidence of anything improper. The second-attacker theory? Bryan Kohberger pled guilty as a sole actor. He had every reason to name an accomplice if one existed — it would have been his single strongest bargaining chip. He didn't, because there's nothing to name. Even Whitcomb himself told NewsNation there's no smoking gun and no secret evidence. That's the author of the book saying his own book doesn't contain what the marketing implies.Kohberger had a trial date weeks away. He had every argument this book is selling. He had a defense team that could have pursued every one of Turvey's concerns in court. He pled guilty anyway. That fact answers every question the book is trying to raise.The families of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin have filed suit against Washington State University alleging the school ignored formal stalking complaints against Kohberger. That's the story that matters — institutional failure, not a book tour.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#BryanKohberger #IdahoMurders #BrokenPlea #BrentTurvey #AnnTaylor #KnifeSheath #ChainOfCustody #UniversityOfIdaho #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

The book's author says there's no smoking gun. The book's primary source has been disavowed by his own defense team clients. And the defendant the book is about already confessed. So what exactly is left?This week's review brings together the most pointed Kohberger case conversations — and we did something the book apparently didn't count on anyone doing. We checked every major claim against the record.Robin Dreeke — retired FBI Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program Chief — joins to answer the listener questions that have flooded in since the book dropped and since Brent Turvey started making media rounds. But the answers don't go where the book wants them to go.Turvey's central allegation — that the knife sheath chain of custody was "fabricated" — depends on a claim about handwritten logs. Moscow's police chief has publicly stated the department uses electronic barcodes. The Othram DNA lab involvement that the book frames as suspicious? Standard procedure in genetic genealogy investigations. The second-attacker theory? Bryan Kohberger pled guilty as a sole actor with a trial date weeks away. If an accomplice existed, naming one would have been the most powerful tool his defense had. He didn't use it because it doesn't exist.Ann Taylor, Elisa Massoth, and Bicka Barlow — Kohberger's own defense attorneys — have publicly stated they are "appalled" by Turvey's appearances. They said he was hired for crime scene analysis only and is speaking outside his expertise. When your own clients are telling the public to disregard you, the credibility question answers itself.The families have filed a lawsuit against Washington State University alleging the school ignored formal complaints about Kohberger's behavior from women who reported stalking and intimidation. That lawsuit — not this book — is where the unresolved accountability lives. Kohberger confessed. The question isn't whether he did it. The question is who failed to stop him before he did.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#BryanKohberger #IdahoMurders #BrokenPlea #RobinDreeke #BrentTurvey #AnnTaylor #KnifeSheath #ListenerQA #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Bryan Kohberger had a trial date weeks away. He had a defense team. He had a forensic expert. He had every single argument now being packaged and sold in a book. And he stood in a courtroom and pled guilty to murdering Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. That's not an unanswered question. That's an answer.This week's review brings together the most essential Kohberger case conversations — centered on why the post-plea noise doesn't serve the families and what actually does.We checked the book's claims. The chain of custody allegation depends on a handwritten log system that Moscow PD says it doesn't use — the department has stated publicly it employs electronic barcodes. The DNA lab claim is standard genetic genealogy procedure. The second-attacker theory is contradicted by the man who pled guilty as a sole actor and had every incentive to name someone else if anyone else existed. Even the book's own author admitted on national television that there's no smoking gun and no secret evidence. That's not an exposé. That's a product.Brent Turvey — the primary source — has been publicly disavowed by Kohberger's own attorneys. Ann Taylor, Elisa Massoth, and Bicka Barlow called his media conduct "appalling" and said he's speaking outside his retained scope. When the defense team that hired you tells the world to stop listening, credibility isn't a debate anymore.The families have filed a lawsuit against Washington State University alleging the school ignored formal complaints from women who reported Kohberger for stalking and intimidation. That's where the real failure lives. Not in a book about evidence questions that the defendant himself rendered irrelevant when he confessed. The families of four victims deserve accountability from the institutions that allegedly failed to act — not a media cycle built on claims that fall apart under basic scrutiny.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#BryanKohberger #IdahoMurders #KayleeGoncalves #MadisonMogen #XanaKernodle #EthanChapin #BrokenPlea #UniversityOfIdaho #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

In this episode of the Shift AI Podcast, Steve Mantle, Founder and CEO of Innov8.ag, Raj Khosla, Dean of the College of Agricultural, Human, and Natural Resources at Washington State University, and John Cox, soil scientist and fresh produce industry operator, join host Boaz Ashkenazy for a wide-ranging panel conversation on how AI and emerging technology are transforming agriculture from the ground up.Steve, Raj, and John each bring a distinct lens to the conversation — startup founder, academic dean, and hands-on operator — and together they paint a vivid picture of where precision agriculture has been and where it is going. The discussion opens with the human side of farming: the generational knowledge, seasonal intuition, and field-level pattern recognition that has defined agriculture for centuries.The panel also covers infrastructure realities, edge computing, rural connectivity gaps, ERP systems that still require on-premise servers, and the economic pressures pushing farmers to demand AI that delivers margin today, not in five years. The conversation closes with each guest sharing their two-word vision for the future of AI in agriculture: physical AI, bright and better, and hopeful foresight.This episode is essential listening for anyone who wants to understand how AI is moving beyond the office and into the fields, orchards, and packing houses that feed the world. A huge thanks to Washington State Academy of Sciences for including this event in their Deep Dive into AI in Agriculture and Washington State University's AgAID Institute for organizing this event held at Wenatchee Valley College. This all wouldn't be possible without the support from the funding sponsors the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence (AAAI) and the USDA ARS.Chapters[00:00] Event Introduction and Background with Jordan Jobe of the AgAid Institute[03:50] Boaz Introduces Himself and the Shift AI Podcast[08:04] Podcast Recording Begins: Welcoming the Panel[08:48] Steve Mantle: From Irrigation Hand Lines to Innovate Ag[09:40] Raj: From a Radio Science Program in India to Precision Agriculture Dean[11:24] John Cox: From Furniture Assembly to Apple Orchards and Kyrgyzstan[13:22] The Human Side of Farming: Intuition, Resilience, and Generational Knowledge[15:10] How GPS Unlocked Precision Agriculture and Field-Level Heterogeneity[16:48] Multi-Generational Farm Knowledge as a Living Large Language Model[18:09] Notebook LM Meets the Farm: The Harvest Replay Concept[21:16] Batteryless Biodegradable Sensors and the Future of Field Diagnostics[24:30] Precision Irrigation Prescription Maps and Dynamic Field Management[26:18] Computer Vision in the Apple Packing House[27:58] AI as a Global Expert: Diagnosing Crop Disease in Kyrgyzstan[30:15] Constraints in Ag AI: Data Stacks, Fragmented Systems, and Cultural Resistance[33:50] Build vs. Buy and the Change Agent Problem in Agriculture[35:50] Edge Computing, On-Premise Servers, and Hybrid Infrastructure on the Farm[39:09] Rural Connectivity: Broadband Gaps and the Starlink Reality[41:54] Economics of Ag AI: Labor Costs, Tightening Margins, and ROI[44:28] Moving from Spreadsheets to Agents: Why Trust Is the Real Barrier[45:50] Future Skills: What the Next Generation of Farmers Needs to Know[48:05] FFA Ag Tech Innovation Day and Hands-On Learning for Students[50:07] Two Words for the Future: Physical AI, Bright and Better, Hopeful Foresight[54:15] How to Connect with Steve, Raj, and JohnConnect with the GuestsSteve MantleLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemantle/Raj (Dean, WSU College of Agricultural, Human, and Natural Resources)LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raj-khosla-2566a819/John CoxLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-cox-soildr/Connect with Boaz AshkenazyLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/boazashkenazy/Email: info@shiftai.fm

Jana Dean & Heather Byington, Supporting Multilingual Learners During Number Talks ROUNDING UP: SEASON 4 | EPISODE 17 What might it be like to engage in a number talk as a multilingual learner? How would you communicate your ideas, and what scaffolds might support your participation?  Today, we're talking with Jana Dean and Heather Byington about ways educators can support multilingual learners' engagement and participation during number talks.  BIOGRAPHIES Heather Byington has taught all grade levels over the span of her 27-year career as a bilingual public educator. She currently teaches middle school mathematics and English language support classes in Lacey, Washington. She is also a student at Washington State University pursuing a PhD in Mathematics Education.  Jana Dean currently serves as CEO of the Mathematics Education Collaborative and supports a fantastic team of middle school math teachers in North Thurston Public Schools. Her research focuses on the intersection of content learning and language learning.  RESOURCES Judit Moschkovich research  Math Between Us blog "Number Talks: A Whole Class Routine for Learning Language for Learning Mathematics" article  Mathematics Education Collaborative website  jdean@mec-math.org Jana Dean email TRANSCRIPT Mike Wallus: Welcome to the podcast, Jana and Heather. I am so excited to be talking with you both today. Jana Dean: Good morning. Yeah, thanks for having us.  Heather Byington: Thanks so much for having us.  Mike: Absolutely.  Jana, before we begin talking about the ways that teachers can support multilingual learners during number talks, I wonder if you can offer a working definition that would help educators visualize what a number talk actually looks like. Jana: Yeah, I'd be happy to do that. A number talk in terms of how we worked with the routine in this project consisted of the teacher providing some sort of visual prompt, starting either with a visual pattern of dots or a computation problem. And then the students get wait time, time to think about how they might solve that problem. And then as they share their strategies, the teacher records and asks them questions about their reasoning for why they approached the problem in the way that they approached it. The teacher creates what I like to think of as a visual mediator of student ideas. So the students' ideas become visible as they share them. So children who are listening can listen to the dialog or conversation between the person sharing and the teacher, but the ideas actually become visible as they're being shared. And the teacher always verifies with the student whether or not they've been understood. And the goal is not for the student to be right, but for the teacher and student to understand each other.  Mike: That's really helpful. Heather, is there anything else you'd add to that?  Heather: In terms of the way that we worked with it with multilingual learners and increasing their opportunities for engagement in the routine, we always gave them an option of talking to a partner and rehearsing their answer before they volunteered to share with the whole group. We prioritized calling on multilingual learners if they volunteered. And we also did a final reflection at the end. So those were some enhancements that we added onto the routine.  Mike: I think that's really helpful and I'm excited to talk a little bit more about the details of those, Heather.  One of the things that really struck me as we were preparing for this conversation was reading about the ways that some of the multilingual learners you worked with, how they described their experience during number talks. And it helped me to see the experience from their perspective and rethink some of the ways that I'd facilitated number talks in the past. And I'm wondering if you could share a bit about some of the feelings students told you that they were experiencing.  Jana: Yeah. One of the things we suspected before we started was that as a language learner myself, talking about ideas that you're just forming in a language you're in the process of learning can be really intimidating. It's very challenging. So they were nervous. And when I interviewed fourth graders about their experience in number talks, even facilitated with language acquisition in mind, they talked about how much courage it took them to share their ideas.  They also talked about and could very keenly remember moments when they had made a contribution that their teacher made use of or a time when they made a contribution that another student made use of later. So there was a lot of pride they felt in having shared their ideas once they found ways to do that.  They also talked about how much easier it was to share our ideas than it was to share my idea. And so if, for instance, we had given them the opportunity—and like Heather said, we almost always gave them the opportunity to talk with a partner—they would often share using the pronoun "we." "This is how we thought of it." And we picked up on that and began to ask them if it was OK to attribute a group of students with a unique idea rather than an individual. And that was also consistent with many of their home cultures. It's not every culture in which individual contributions are elevated, but rather when you dare to speak, you're definitely speaking for the group, for a collective. So that collective understanding was really important.  There was one child, and I'm really curious about how representative he was of many. He always talked to the same friend, and every time he shared, he, I'm going to say, nailed it. He really had it figured out what it was that he was going to say. And there was one particular day when he did a beautiful job sharing, and I asked him about that day and he said, "To be honest, that day I really didn't want to share, but I knew my teacher wanted to hear my idea, so I did anyway." And so there's that element of love and respect for their teacher that I think was also really motivating for them.  Heather: Yeah. Can I add something quickly to that?  So one aspect of that, I think that idea of a student sharing because it meant a lot to the teacher, we also tried to utilize individual conferring with students as much as possible and gave them opportunities to confer with us, whether it was just checking in briefly before the number talk started, encouraging them or maybe telling them, "Hey, you can share the idea with me after the number talk if that feels more comfortable to you." So it's giving them multiple opportunities to do that and encouraging them to share their thoughts.  Mike: What I appreciate about what you all are doing is even in this initial part of the conversation, really getting specific about the practices and the way that those practices played out for kids. And I think as an educator, one of the things that I've come to over all my years teaching is the need to have humility and also continue to be a learner. And that sometimes really leads me to questions about intent versus impact.  Heather, I wonder if you could talk about the parts of the number talk routine or facilitation practices that may have unintentionally provoked some of the anxiety that kids were experiencing.  Heather: So for multilingual learners, when I think about what they will need, the supports that they may need to be able to engage in a routine like a number talk, I think about first the processing time that they might need to understand and think about different ways of solving that prompt. And then I think about their understanding of the prompt. And then the other thing I think about is their ability to communicate their thoughts and ideas with others. So naturally, if it seems like there's a lot of pressure because of time, if they don't have much time, if they feel that pressure to do that processing and think of those ideas and share them quickly, that may provoke anxiety because this, of course, is still a language that they're still developing. So that ability to share with a partner and rehearse those ideas and process that with a partner, that really becomes, as Jana mentioned, more of a team effort.  And then being able to rehearse the words that they're going to use and the way they're going to convey that message and communicate it to others, that again reduces the anxiety because it's a lot less pressure to share my thoughts and ideas with one person than with a whole group. And if I share those thoughts with one person and they seem to understand what I mean, then now I might feel confident enough to share with more people. So I just think that naturally when it's a time constrained activity, that that naturally can provoke anxiety.  Mike: Yeah. I mean, that absolutely makes sense. I will say as a child who was not quick, even in my first language, the impact of that was profound, let alone trying to both process in a language that I was learning and feel like I was under pressure to produce an idea and describe it. That absolutely makes sense.  Jana: I want to back up a bit and quote something that you said, Heather, partway through our working together, which was that Heather had some familiarity with number talks before we started working together, but had a healthy skepticism as well. And at one point she said that she wondered if we might not actually be hurting students when we are facilitating a routine that they cannot find entry into. And so it became really like a guiding light or principle of our work together to work hard to help them find entry into the routine. And something that I didn't realize until a year after we began working together and I was really closely tracking the experiences of the multilingual learners themselves—and this is kind of back to your question about intent and impact—when we listen to children's mathematical ideas with the intent of not correcting them, trying to figure out what's right and what makes sense to them, we have to ask them questions about what their ideas are. And for many of the multilingual learners, engaging in that process itself was a huge lift language-wise. So I'm not just going to be able to say the answer or tell my teacher my strategy; I'm going to have to stick with my teacher until my teacher actually gets it. And a few of the multilingual learners that I followed over the course of a year actually said to me, "I don't like it when my teacher doesn't understand me." So while we absolutely, 100%, our intention is golden. It is about understanding them. But putting them in that position of that negotiating meaning with us until we do understand takes a great deal of trust on the part of the student. And so it's on us to develop that trust so that they're willing to do that with us.  Mike: I think that's a good segue because Jana, going into this, you mentioned three big ideas as starting points for supporting multilingual learners. One was negotiated meaning, one was the notion of voluntary sharing, and the last was the idea of using ambiguity as a resource. And I wonder if we can start this next part of the podcast with having you describe each of these for the listeners.  Jana: Yeah, absolutely.  Voluntary sharing means I've made a commitment to not ever put you on the spot as a student. And so any one of us who has learned a second language—which I've learned a couple, none of them to a super high level—but most people can relate to, say, standing in line in a grocery store and rehearsing what you're going to say so that you ask for the bag you want rather than the receipt that you don't want. There's a process in coming to speak, and I think there's a process in coming to speak publicly for just about every learner, especially about ideas that you're in the process of forming, but that pressure—and I've had many, many students over the year thank me for being the kind of teacher in a kind of classroom where they knew that I wasn't going to call on them unless they had volunteered to share. So the level of distraction, I think that that, again, well-intentioned pressure causes, is absolutely not worth it, and especially not for our multilingual learners.  Negotiated meaning really is the process of coming to understand each other, and we do it all the time. Unfortunately, often in classrooms, we end up in discourse routines that are actually not about teachers understanding students. They're about teachers asking questions for which students are supposed to have answers, which then the teacher evaluates. So what I would argue that the number talk routine turns that discourse pattern, which is often called I.R.E.—initiate, respond, evaluate—absolutely on its head. The child volunteers their idea, the teacher responds by trying to understand it as best they can, and then the student is the evaluator of whether or not the teacher actually understood them.  Mike: Heather, I was hoping we could go granular on a couple pieces that I heard you talk about too. You talk a lot about something very practical, the value of predictability, and I wonder if you can talk about how predictability impacted students and what does that mean for the teacher?  Heather: Absolutely.  When facilitating these number talks with this goal of engaging multilingual learners or helping them find those entry points, I found it helpful as a facilitator to utilize similar types of approaches to statements I would make during the routine, and then similar ways of asking students if I was seeing things the way that they were seeing them. It seemed to help the students that we were really hoping to engage to feel more comfortable with what was happening in the routine and to lean in more to that engagement. So I think that that is one thing as a facilitator to be aware of.  Jana, can you think of anything else that we haven't talked about yet?  Jana: There's the whole knowing the rules of the game aspect of really any classroom routine or instructional routine. So if the student knows how this thing goes, whatever "this thing" is, then that lifts off some of the cognitive load in terms of participation because they don't have to be figuring out how to participate. Judit Moschkovich writes about this a lot in her research, and I think she calls it the "sociocultural aspect of learning mathematics," and she uses the word "ecological". So the environment itself really matters. And in community, our social environment is made up of all kinds of routines. So I think that part of it is important. My favorite metaphor for it is learning a new card game. The first time you play the game, it is no fun because all you're doing is trying to figure out how the cards move, how the turns go, what the rules are, and how you can play. You can't do any strategy at all. But then as you learn the game, then you can really engage in it in a thoughtful way and have fun with it. So I really think that classroom routines are like that and not only for multilingual learners, but I have the privilege of being an instructional coach now in a middle school and have seen teachers engage in routines that I can tell are 100% soothing of trauma that students have as they come into the classroom, just because they know what to expect. So not only are those kinds of regular routines really helpful for multilingual learners, but they're also trauma-informed teaching. And when I say "routine," it can be easy to misunderstand and think it's boring. It has to be an open-ended routine so that something inside it that is engaging and fun can happen.  Heather: There are a couple of other things that occurred to me in terms of the students participating in the routine. I know that they started to see that we were elevating the status of gestures in terms of the communication to be another way to visualize the thinking in terms of the processing for themselves, but also a way to help others see what they were seeing and to understand their ideas. So that was one aspect of the routine that they could count on, that they could utilize gestures if needed, and that we would reinforce that. If they didn't have a mathematics label for the terminology that would typically be used in that conversation about those mathematics ideas, they could rely on describing what they understood, and then either I, the teacher, the facilitator, or another student, providing those words and the opportunity to practice that specific mathematics language within that routine. So those were some other things that were predictable and happened across all of the different number talks that happened, no matter what the prompt was.  Mike: You're making me think that part of what a teacher might do in response to this conversation is really to think about some of the things that they want to make normal, right? Like this notion of using gestures is both normal and accepted and valued. The idea that you are going to use rough draft, informal language, and that's OK, and that's a way that we get to more technical language of mathematics, and that's normal. And so thinking about what are the things that I want to become normal and predictable for kids, maybe homework recommendation number one for an educator that might be listening in.  Heather: So another thing that was predictable was the utilization of color-coding. And this is something that many teachers probably do already. But we did, when we were recording the students' ideas, we used different colors for each student, and that made it more accessible. Again, it was a support for our students to be able to distinguish between different chunks of information on the board as they were looking at each other's responses and reflecting on those responses. So really reading that.  Mike: Can I ask for a clarification on that, Heather?  Heather: Absolutely.  Mike: I think what you mean is that you use different [colors] to represent different students' contributions. So if a student shared something, you might write it in red, and if it was a different student, it might be in green. And then you can distinguish what contribution each student made.  Heather: Yes. Yes, that was a predictable aspect of the routine, as well as Jana had mentioned earlier, attributing the ideas to students using their initials. And if multiple students contributed to that idea and the original person who was sharing said that, yes, they would like to attribute more people, then we included all the people's initials who contributed to that idea that was shared in that number talk for that idea, that communication.  Mike: Speaking of contribution, I want to name something that we talked about in our preparation for this that seems incredibly simple but felt like it was really significant. You all talked about the importance of the teacher consistently—not just once, not just a handful of times—but consistently, on the regular stating to kids that they wanted to hear from all students. And I wonder if you can just talk about what did this sound like to make that happen and what was the impact on kids? Jana, I think this is one I'd love for you to start with.  Jana: Yeah, absolutely. It is simple. All you say is, "I'm so glad to be with you today. And let's remember that while we may not hear from everyone today, it's our goal to hear from almost everyone over the course of the week." And if you as a teacher have made a commitment to voluntary sharing, it's essential to say that, to really tell them that you do want to hear their voices. You need to tell them that. Otherwise, they're not going to know that you want to hear their voice. And like I shared a little while ago, there was one student who actually said to me, "I didn't want to share that day, and I knew my teacher wanted to hear from me, and so I did." And then in reflecting back on that share, to get at students' perspectives on what number talks have been like for them—they were fourth graders, only 10 years old. I showed them video of themselves participating in the number talk, and you should have seen the smile on that kid's face. The pride he had in having taken that risk because his teacher wanted him to. People rise to the expectations that we have for them, 100%, maybe not 100% of the time, but if we don't have that expectation, they don't get to choose to rise to the expectation. And you can't make anyone talk when they're not ready to talk yet.  Mike: Heather?  Heather: I also think that part of that goes back to something that we were talking about a little while ago, and that is establishing the norms in the community of learners. And in addition to communicating that to the whole group, our goal is to hear everyone's ideas over the course of the week. Something also as simple as when they were getting ready to do a pair-share and rehearse their thoughts with each other before launching into the whole-group discussion, also reminding them, "Hey, make sure that we're taking turns when we're sharing in that pair." So again, just to reinforce that we value everybody's contribution, we value everybody's voice and everybody needs to have a turn.  Mike: Can you say more about why it's important to offer kids the option to talk with a classmate before they do any whole-group sharing? Why does that matter so much, particularly for multilingual learners? And either one of you, feel free to jump in and take this.  Heather: I'll start. My understanding is that when the originators of these number talks created this idea that they wanted, that idea of agency and giving students choice was really an important priority to them. And so I feel like part of the rationale for that is to give students choices as often as possible in this routine to elevate students to co-learners with the teacher. So I feel like that's kind of where it starts.  Mike: Jana, is there anything you want to add to that one?  Jana: Well, we've already mentioned the value of rehearsal before sharing with the whole group, but there's also another aspect of it that we may not have touched on yet, which is: As that person listens to us and we actually negotiate meeting and clear up ambiguity, we feel seen, heard, and understood. And if I feel seen, heard, and understood by Heather, it's going to be easier for me to share my idea with Mike, who I don't know quite as well as I know Heather. And so there's really a relational aspect of it that is about feeling understood.  Mike: I want to ask another question about something that feels eminently practical. You all talk about recommending that educators call on multilingual learners early in number talks. And I wonder if you could say more about the why behind that recommendation.  Heather: So as a learner of a new language, I may only have one way of explaining my thinking about that problem or the way that I'm seeing that. And if I have taken that risk and I've raised my hand, if somebody else answers first or maybe two other people answer first, maybe they've taken the only way that I knew to answer and share my thinking about this prompt. So for me, as a facilitator in that setting, that was really important for me to prioritize those volunteers if they raise their hand and call on them as one of the first contributors. I've also seen in some classes that I've been in, some math classes, if a student is not yet fluent in English, sometimes their classmates think that they don't know math, that they don't have ideas to share in math. So I also think that calling on those students first also, again, sets the norms in this community of learners that, again, we all have valid and valuable ideas to share.  And so Jana and I saw in particular with the pair-shares, we saw students starting to choose to work with students who still spoke primarily another language. And Jana captured on video where she had a student who didn't speak Spanish and a student who primarily spoke Spanish and they were sharing ideas with each other in that pair-share to get ready for the whole-group discussion. And honestly, I think that that worked more effectively because of that idea that everybody has valuable ideas to share. So I also think that that was another part of that idea of calling on those students first and making sure that they had a lot of opportunities to share their ideas.  Mike: Yeah. I'm really glad you mentioned that. You're making me think about this notion called positioning, meaning that the choices that we make—whether they're spoken or unspoken, like who we call on first or who gets called on more—they are sending a message to students. And often that message may not be the one we intended. So in this case, it really does show how the choices that you all were making in calling on multilingual learners early, it may have disrupted some narratives that people could have formed about how much those kids had to contribute to a mathematical conversation. I'm so glad you shared that.  Jana, I want to ask you this next question. It's something that, if I'm not mistaken, Heather brought up earlier, and I wanted to dig into it a little bit more if we could. You referenced the value of making gestures something that's a normal, accepted, valued practice, and I want to take a bit of time to clarify that. Perhaps for some folks who might not have a clear picture in their own mind of what we mean by that, can you say more about what we mean by gestures and maybe some examples of the ways that gestures either help students to communicate or even how they contributed to the conversation that was happening during the number talk where there might've been something that was lost if gestures weren't in play?  Jana: One thing I know for sure is that lately I've been learning from Heather about how some mathematical ideas are actually perhaps communicated better with gesture than verbally. And yet we have this traditional notion that there's some kind of language for expressing mathematics that's fancy and only occurs from the neck up, but that's not how we usually talk. So why would we tell people who are trying to explain their ideas that they can't use gesture as part of a person-to-person conversation? Gesture by no means keeps you from developing formal language. It actually helps you develop formal language. So one example of using gesture, it came up particularly during dot talks when we first started the routine, and the dot talks were a fabulous way to encourage and introduce that norm that gestures are welcome. But if a student is describing an array of dots and they say, "three on top," and then they use their hand to indicate it's horizontal, we would affirm, "Thank you so much for using your hands." I can tell that the three on top are in a horizontal line. And then, Heather is fabulous, and I've learned a lot about this from her at gesturing "horizontal" by bringing her hand across the space in front of her horizontally. And then everyone [says] "horizontal," and everyone gestures and says "horizontal" with them. And so we're pairing what's an academic word that is often very hard for students with any language background to remember with a physical gesture.  Mike: That's really helpful. As you all were talking about this, one of the things that I started thinking about is how there are ways that I use gestures to indicate a lot of mathematical ideas like partitioning into groups, indicating that I'm talking about a group and another group and another group, which is basically the seeds of multiplication or unitizing. How I'll gesture as a way to show that I'm combining or separating. How I gesture to show the way that I'm counting things. That all of those are ways that actually enhance what I might be saying and actually communicate that meaning more clearly both to my teacher and to the other students who are in the room.  Heather: Absolutely. Yeah. Another example of that, as you were talking about that, that I use all the time as a seventh grade mathematics teacher and we're working a lot with integers, is the idea of 0 in a horizontal hand as 0. And thinking about if that's 0 and I'm navigating between positive and negative numbers, what will that look [like] visually? And as you said, I just think that gestures are another tool for thinking and understanding and processing information and sometimes communicating that information.  Mike: Heather, I want to come back to you for something that, again, really struck me as important when we were preparing for this. You said that you recommend educators close their number talks with an opportunity for kids to make connections between strategies that emerged. And I wonder if you can just talk about: Why is it important to provide that opportunity for kids to make connections, particularly for our multilingual learners? Heather: So first of all, I have a firm belief that development of conceptual understanding is really valuable in mathematics. And as we are engaging in this routine, in this whole-group discussion, and we're considering all these different possible ways of solving a prompt or seeing a prompt, then when we get to the end, it feels like that we should reflect on the different ideas that have been shared and draw some conclusions about what we can say across all of these different ideas as part of that development of conceptual understanding of what is happening there mathematically. In addition to that, in terms of student engagement, some of our students are multilingual learners. That was the time in the routine that they actually felt the most confident to contribute their thoughts and ideas. So maybe they didn't often raise their hand to speak in that whole-group discussion, but they did raise their hand to share something they noticed from the artifact, some kind of commonality or something that stood out to them.  So again, that was another opportunity for them to feel like they had a valid contribution, that their contribution needed to be heard. So those are a couple of good reasons why I feel like that final reflection is really important in particular for multilingual learners.  Mike: Well, Jana, before we close this conversation, I'm wondering if there are any resources that you'd recommend to a listener who wants to keep learning about the ideas and the practices that we've been discussing today. Is there anything that you could point them in the direction of, or perhaps even something that you'd invite them to try out as a first step?  Jana: Yes, absolutely. I have a couple of ideas. One would be to go to a blog I write that's called mathbetweenus.org. And I've published a short article there ["Number Talks: A Whole Class Routine for Learning Language for Learning Mathematics"] that is specifically about the adjustments we've made to the routine.  Also, I am now CEO of the Mathematics Education Collaborative, and we recently developed a grassroots workshop in making number talks meaningful. It only takes 2 hours. It's an introduction to the routine, ensuring that it's more than just something fun, but actually results in building number sense for students. It's a low-cost way for an individual teacher to get started. And then you can also go to our website at the Mathematics Education Collaborative, which is [www.mec-math.org] and reach out to us and see if you're interested in having us come to your district or your region. Or you can email me at jdean@mec-math.org. So lots of ideas.  Mike: I think that's a great place to stop. I can't thank you both enough for joining me and being willing to have such an in-depth and detailed conversation. Jana and Heather, it's really been a pleasure talking with you both. Thank you.  Jana: You're welcome.  Heather: Thank you so much.  Jana: Thanks for your curiosity.  Mike: This podcast is brought to you by The Math Learning Center and the Maier Math Foundation, dedicated to inspiring and enabling all individuals to discover and develop their mathematical confidence and ability.  © 2026 The Math Learning Center | www.mathlearningcenter.org

The procedural and forensic dispute over the Ka-Bar knife sheath in the Bryan Kohberger case raises evidentiary questions that his guilty plea ensured no judge or jury would ever evaluate. Defense forensic scientist Brent Turvey alleges the chain of custody documentation was retroactive, potentially constituting evidence tampering, false reporting, and professional misconduct. Moscow Police Chief Anthony Dahlinger maintains the department's electronic barcode system met all legal requirements. Idaho State Police released a photo of the evidence bag showing an unbroken seal.Kohberger pleaded guilty to four counts of first-degree murder in July 2025, accepting four consecutive life sentences with no possibility of parole in exchange for avoiding the death penalty. He waived all appeal rights. The plea foreclosed any evidentiary challenge.The dispute has generated a rare public conflict between Kohberger's defense team and their former expert. Attorneys Anne Taylor, Elisa Massoth, and Bicka Barlow issued a statement saying they are “appalled” by Turvey's comments and alleging he violated his confidentiality agreement. Turvey maintains the topics he discussed are part of mass public disclosures.Separately, the families of Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin have filed a lawsuit against Washington State University alleging the institution received formal complaints about Kohberger's conduct and failed to act.Robin Dreeke and Tony Brueski address listener questions on the evidentiary standards governing chain of custody disputes, the procedural implications of the defense-expert conflict, the civil liability landscape facing WSU, and what the unidentified hair — confirmed by the FBI as not Kohberger's and reportedly never fully processed — means for the completeness of this investigation.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#BryanKohberger #ChainOfCustody #IdahoMurders #TrueCrimeToday #KnifeSheath #ForensicEvidence #WSULawsuit #LegalAnalysis #ListenerQA #TrueCrime

Three cases at distinct stages of the legal process raise overlapping questions about evidentiary standards, investigative procedure, and institutional accountability.In Los Angeles, David Anthony Burke faces first-degree murder charges with special circumstance allegations of lying in wait, financial gain, and murder of a witness in connection with the death of fourteen-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez. The charges carry the possibility of the death penalty, though the DA's office has not yet made that determination. Burke has pleaded not guilty, and his defense team maintains he did not cause Celeste's death. The People's Brief filed by prosecutors outlines allegations of a sexual relationship beginning when she was thirteen, a killing allegedly motivated by career preservation, and months of alleged evidence destruction.In Idaho, Bryan Kohberger's guilty plea to four counts of first-degree murder foreclosed any judicial evaluation of the chain of custody dispute now raised publicly by a former defense expert. The Ka-Bar knife sheath carrying Kohberger's DNA allegedly had documentation that was retroactive and legally insufficient. The victims' families have filed a civil lawsuit against Washington State University.In Indiana, Richard Allen's defense team filed a reply brief and requested oral arguments before the Court of Appeals, arguing the trial court committed constitutional error by excluding alternative suspect evidence, admitting involuntary confessions, and blocking the defense from presenting a complete case.Robin Dreeke and Tony Brueski take listener questions on the legal standards at stake in each case, the procedural distinctions between pre-trial, post-plea, and appellate proceedings, and what these cases collectively reveal about the American criminal justice system.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#D4VD #BryanKohberger #DelphiMurders #TrueCrimeToday #RichardAllen #CelesteRivasHernandez #LegalAnalysis #ListenerQA #TrueCrime #CriminalJustice

Retired FBI Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program Chief Robin Dreeke joins Tony Brueski to analyze the revelations in Christopher Whitcomb's Broken Plea and answer your questions about the Idaho student murders.Whitcomb, a retired FBI agent and former member of the Bureau's Hostage Rescue Team, draws on previously unseen defense expert reports and Kohberger's own jail writings to argue the prosecution's case had significant vulnerabilities. Defense forensic scientist Brent Turvey alleges the Ka-Bar knife sheath — the prosecution's primary physical evidence — had chain of custody documentation that was retroactive and legally insufficient. Without it, Whitcomb argues, the case rested on circumstantial evidence.Dreeke brings his behavioral analysis expertise to the questions your messages keep raising. Kohberger's mother told the FBI he was her angel — quiet, no social life, kept to himself. Meanwhile, female students at Washington State University were reportedly filing formal complaints about stalking and intimidation. Some reportedly needed security escorts to their cars. Kohberger wrote letters from jail to his dog, signing them “Brother,” and sent his family notes about ascending to new peaks and finding clarity through a “Singular Heart.”Dreeke analyzes the gap between the man his family described and the man his colleagues and students allegedly experienced. Your questions push into whether the plea gave four families justice, whether the unidentified hair found near a victim matters, whether the investigation followed every lead, and whether the book's suggestion that more than one person may have been involved carries any weight.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#BryanKohberger #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillersLive #BrokenPlea #IdahoMurders #BehavioralAnalysis #FBI #ListenerQA #TrueCrime #ChainOfCustody

The Cosmic Crisp apple, originally developed at Washington State University, will continue to be exclusively grown in Washington state for another six years.

Special Interview Episode: Andrew McGuire - Extension Agronomist At Washington State University

Host Richie Tevlin and Co-Host Evan Blum talk with Shanleigh Thomson, founder of Shan Ferments and professor at Washington State University. A UC Davis Master Brewer with a Master of Food Science from Purdue University and over 12 years of experience in the beverage alcohol industry, Shanleigh has worked with industry leaders including Diageo, Yakima Chief Hops, and Agriculture Canada. Through Shan Ferments, she runs a consultancy and educational platform dedicated to making the science of fermented beverages accessible to brewers and enthusiasts alike.   BrewedAt's CBC Special Series, releasing a new episode every day from April 27th through May 2nd, and again from May 5th through May 9th, in celebration of the 2026 Craft Brewers Conference in Philadelphia!   https://www.shanferments.com/ @Shan.Ferments _____________________________________________ THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS!: The Beer Accountant: https://www.paddymaccpa.com/brewerysolutions Patrick McDonald Email: pmcdonald@paddymaccpa.com 267-566-4077 - Licensed CPA Norris McLaughlin P.A. https://norrismclaughlin.com/ted-zeller Ted Zeller Email: tzeller@norris-law.com (484) 765-2220 - Liquor Attorney _______________________________________ EPISODE NOTES: Mentioned Breweries Fort George Brewery + Public House - Astoria, OR Dunloe Brewing - Davis, CA Mentioned People Tim Wallen - Research Chemist at Hoptechnic and Virgil Gamache Farms Other Mentions Washington State University Campbell's - American Soup Company Late July Snacks - American CPG Company Purdue University Smirnoff Vodka Diageo - Premium Alcoholic Drinks UC Davis Yakima Chief - National Hop Producer AB InBev RahrBSG - Brewing Ingredients Company CLS Farm - Hop Farm What We Drank? Clean Shot IPA | 6.2% | Sabro Space Cadet Brewing Co. (Collab w/ Lost Time Brewing) _______________________________________   STAY CONNECTED: Instagram: ⁠⁠@brewedat⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠@thebrewedatpodcast⁠⁠ Tik Tok: ⁠⁠@brewedat ⁠⁠/ ⁠⁠@thebrewedatpodcast⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠@brewedat⁠⁠ / ⁠⁠@thebrewedatpodcast⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠BrewedAt Website: ⁠⁠www.brewedat.com

In this episode, the Green Room crew is joined by author, entrepreneur, and former Las Vegas cocktail waitress Dana June for an eye-opening conversation about the realities of the casino service industry and the crucial importance of financial literacy.Dana shares her incredible journey of starting in the Las Vegas casino industry as an eighteen-year-old hostess, eventually working as a cocktail waitress for a decade while paying her way out of pocket through a bachelor's degree at UNLV and a master's degree from Washington State University. The group dives deep into the hidden traps of the service industry, discussing the illusion of wealth that blinds many young workers who make six figures but end up in massive debt with zero assets.The conversation breaks down the complex world of tipping culture, exploring the realities of tip compliance, tax liabilities, and why understanding tax strategy is essential for survival. Dana explains how the pandemic shifted her mindset away from climbing the corporate ladder toward achieving true financial freedom through passive income and smart tax mitigation, such as maximizing 401k contributions to drastically lower tax burdens. She also reveals the inspiration behind her new book, "How To CockTALE," which she wrote in just thirteen days after being fired from her job. The book serves as a financial framework not just for cocktail waitresses, but for Uber drivers, barbers, influencers, and anyone who earns tip-based or 1099 income.Plus, the crew shares hilarious and crazy Las Vegas stories, from dropping kids off at casino daycares like Kids Quest to the ruthless mentality of nightclub waitresses, the realities of fake IDs, and the shocking lack of financial education taught in schools.

In the early hours of November 13, 2022, four University of Idaho students—Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin—were brutally stabbed to death in a rental house near campus in Moscow, Idaho. The crime scene was particularly disturbing: there were no signs of forced entry, and two surviving roommates were left unharmed in the same house. The case immediately drew national attention due to the shocking nature of the murders and the lack of suspects in the early days. A months-long investigation led law enforcement to Bryan Christopher Kohberger, a 28-year-old Ph.D. criminology student at Washington State University, located about ten miles from the crime scene. Using cell phone data, surveillance footage, and a DNA match from a knife sheath found at the scene, police arrested Kohberger in Pennsylvania on December 30, 2022, and later extradited him to Idaho to face four counts of first-degree murder and one count of felony burglary.As of April 2025, Kohberger's case is still moving through the pretrial phase. His defense has pursued multiple motions challenging evidence collection, including arguments over cellphone pings, surveillance footage, and the genealogical tracing used to identify him as a suspect. The trial has faced delays due to defense requests for more time and the complexities of handling large volumes of digital and forensic evidence. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty, emphasizing the heinous nature of the crime and the calculated planning involved. Judge John Judge continues to rule on motions in limine, including what evidence will be allowed at trial. The case remains one of the most closely watched in the nation, with both legal teams preparing for what is expected to be a high-profile and emotionally charged trial, now tentatively slated to begin later in 2025.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.

In the early hours of November 13, 2022, four University of Idaho students—Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin—were brutally stabbed to death in a rental house near campus in Moscow, Idaho. The crime scene was particularly disturbing: there were no signs of forced entry, and two surviving roommates were left unharmed in the same house. The case immediately drew national attention due to the shocking nature of the murders and the lack of suspects in the early days. A months-long investigation led law enforcement to Bryan Christopher Kohberger, a 28-year-old Ph.D. criminology student at Washington State University, located about ten miles from the crime scene. Using cell phone data, surveillance footage, and a DNA match from a knife sheath found at the scene, police arrested Kohberger in Pennsylvania on December 30, 2022, and later extradited him to Idaho to face four counts of first-degree murder and one count of felony burglary.As of April 2025, Kohberger's case is still moving through the pretrial phase. His defense has pursued multiple motions challenging evidence collection, including arguments over cellphone pings, surveillance footage, and the genealogical tracing used to identify him as a suspect. The trial has faced delays due to defense requests for more time and the complexities of handling large volumes of digital and forensic evidence. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty, emphasizing the heinous nature of the crime and the calculated planning involved. Judge John Judge continues to rule on motions in limine, including what evidence will be allowed at trial. The case remains one of the most closely watched in the nation, with both legal teams preparing for what is expected to be a high-profile and emotionally charged trial, now tentatively slated to begin later in 2025.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.

In the early hours of November 13, 2022, four University of Idaho students—Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin—were brutally stabbed to death in a rental house near campus in Moscow, Idaho. The crime scene was particularly disturbing: there were no signs of forced entry, and two surviving roommates were left unharmed in the same house. The case immediately drew national attention due to the shocking nature of the murders and the lack of suspects in the early days. A months-long investigation led law enforcement to Bryan Christopher Kohberger, a 28-year-old Ph.D. criminology student at Washington State University, located about ten miles from the crime scene. Using cell phone data, surveillance footage, and a DNA match from a knife sheath found at the scene, police arrested Kohberger in Pennsylvania on December 30, 2022, and later extradited him to Idaho to face four counts of first-degree murder and one count of felony burglary.As of April 2025, Kohberger's case is still moving through the pretrial phase. His defense has pursued multiple motions challenging evidence collection, including arguments over cellphone pings, surveillance footage, and the genealogical tracing used to identify him as a suspect. The trial has faced delays due to defense requests for more time and the complexities of handling large volumes of digital and forensic evidence. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty, emphasizing the heinous nature of the crime and the calculated planning involved. Judge John Judge continues to rule on motions in limine, including what evidence will be allowed at trial. The case remains one of the most closely watched in the nation, with both legal teams preparing for what is expected to be a high-profile and emotionally charged trial, now tentatively slated to begin later in 2025.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.

In the early hours of November 13, 2022, four University of Idaho students—Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin—were brutally stabbed to death in a rental house near campus in Moscow, Idaho. The crime scene was particularly disturbing: there were no signs of forced entry, and two surviving roommates were left unharmed in the same house. The case immediately drew national attention due to the shocking nature of the murders and the lack of suspects in the early days. A months-long investigation led law enforcement to Bryan Christopher Kohberger, a 28-year-old Ph.D. criminology student at Washington State University, located about ten miles from the crime scene. Using cell phone data, surveillance footage, and a DNA match from a knife sheath found at the scene, police arrested Kohberger in Pennsylvania on December 30, 2022, and later extradited him to Idaho to face four counts of first-degree murder and one count of felony burglary.As of April 2025, Kohberger's case is still moving through the pretrial phase. His defense has pursued multiple motions challenging evidence collection, including arguments over cellphone pings, surveillance footage, and the genealogical tracing used to identify him as a suspect. The trial has faced delays due to defense requests for more time and the complexities of handling large volumes of digital and forensic evidence. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty, emphasizing the heinous nature of the crime and the calculated planning involved. Judge John Judge continues to rule on motions in limine, including what evidence will be allowed at trial. The case remains one of the most closely watched in the nation, with both legal teams preparing for what is expected to be a high-profile and emotionally charged trial, now tentatively slated to begin later in 2025.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.

In the early hours of November 13, 2022, four University of Idaho students—Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin—were brutally stabbed to death in a rental house near campus in Moscow, Idaho. The crime scene was particularly disturbing: there were no signs of forced entry, and two surviving roommates were left unharmed in the same house. The case immediately drew national attention due to the shocking nature of the murders and the lack of suspects in the early days. A months-long investigation led law enforcement to Bryan Christopher Kohberger, a 28-year-old Ph.D. criminology student at Washington State University, located about ten miles from the crime scene. Using cell phone data, surveillance footage, and a DNA match from a knife sheath found at the scene, police arrested Kohberger in Pennsylvania on December 30, 2022, and later extradited him to Idaho to face four counts of first-degree murder and one count of felony burglary.As of April 2025, Kohberger's case is still moving through the pretrial phase. His defense has pursued multiple motions challenging evidence collection, including arguments over cellphone pings, surveillance footage, and the genealogical tracing used to identify him as a suspect. The trial has faced delays due to defense requests for more time and the complexities of handling large volumes of digital and forensic evidence. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty, emphasizing the heinous nature of the crime and the calculated planning involved. Judge John Judge continues to rule on motions in limine, including what evidence will be allowed at trial. The case remains one of the most closely watched in the nation, with both legal teams preparing for what is expected to be a high-profile and emotionally charged trial, now tentatively slated to begin later in 2025.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.

In the early hours of November 13, 2022, four University of Idaho students—Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin—were brutally stabbed to death in a rental house near campus in Moscow, Idaho. The crime scene was particularly disturbing: there were no signs of forced entry, and two surviving roommates were left unharmed in the same house. The case immediately drew national attention due to the shocking nature of the murders and the lack of suspects in the early days. A months-long investigation led law enforcement to Bryan Christopher Kohberger, a 28-year-old Ph.D. criminology student at Washington State University, located about ten miles from the crime scene. Using cell phone data, surveillance footage, and a DNA match from a knife sheath found at the scene, police arrested Kohberger in Pennsylvania on December 30, 2022, and later extradited him to Idaho to face four counts of first-degree murder and one count of felony burglary.As of April 2025, Kohberger's case is still moving through the pretrial phase. His defense has pursued multiple motions challenging evidence collection, including arguments over cellphone pings, surveillance footage, and the genealogical tracing used to identify him as a suspect. The trial has faced delays due to defense requests for more time and the complexities of handling large volumes of digital and forensic evidence. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty, emphasizing the heinous nature of the crime and the calculated planning involved. Judge John Judge continues to rule on motions in limine, including what evidence will be allowed at trial. The case remains one of the most closely watched in the nation, with both legal teams preparing for what is expected to be a high-profile and emotionally charged trial, now tentatively slated to begin later in 2025.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.

Jon Herold sits down with his friend Jordan Sather of Conscious Strength for a wide open conversation that covers a lot of ground. From flunking out of Washington State University to building one of the more honest supplement brands in the alternative media space, Jordan doesn't sugarcoat his journey or his industry. He breaks down why big name supplement products are wildly overpriced, how corporate consolidation is quietly taking over natural health brands, and what his plans are for expanding Conscious Strength. But the conversation takes a serious turn when Jordan opens up about the death of David Wilcock, someone he knew personally for years. He pushes back on the wild conspiracy theories circulating online and shares what those who actually knew Wilcock understood about his mental and financial struggles. A candid, unfiltered conversation about media, supplements, grief, and the cost of online criticism. This Week's Guest: Jordan Sather from Conscious Strength https://BadlandsMedia.tv/Strength Promo Code: BADLANDS

When it comes to growing apples, no state dominates like Washington. It accounts for roughly 6 in 10 of all the apples grown in the U.S. One of the major threats facing this top crop is fire blight. The bacterial disease attacks apple and pear trees and can ruin an entire harvest, costing roughly $100 million annually in losses for the U.S. apple industry. The fire blight bacteria can also develop resistance to the antibiotic orchardists have typically used to protect their fruit trees.   But that resistance may have met its match in a compound that Washington State University microbiologist and associate professor Cynthia Haseltine calls “the universal assassin” for its ability to kill not only fire blight bacteria but also other harmful pathogens. Haseltine has spent nearly a decade developing this compound that is derived from a microbe found in extreme environments like volcanic vents and hot springs.    The compound is now being field tested for the first time in central Washington. It’s also shown promise in the lab at killing listeria bacteria which can grow on equipment in fruit packing plants.    Haseltine joins us to share details of the grant she was recently awarded to expand production and real-world testing of this novel approach to protecting Washington apples.  

Send us Fan MailFormer Washington State University quarterback Luke Falk ('17 Soc. Sci.) was the Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Week six times, started in 40 games, and set a WSU record with 27 wins. In 2017, his final season with Coug football, Falk won the Burlsworth Trophy, awarded to the nation's top former walk-on.Falk shares the secrets to his college-ball success in his new book, The Mind Strength Playbook: Master Your Mind. Elevate Your Game. (2025, Maison Vero). It's a self-development guide that underscores the need for athletes to train not only their bodies but their minds.  But the lessons from Falk translate to anyone.“Mind strength is the ability to master your inner world so you can handle anything the outside world throws at you,” Falk says. “It's not about perfection. It's a tool in your toolbelt.”Falk talks to Washington State Magazine editor Larry Clark about the book, Coach Mike Leach, Coug football, and lessons that everyone can use to succeed no matter what the world throws at you.Learn moreCoach Luke Falk's Mind StrengthSupport the show______________________________________________________________________________Want more great WSU stories? Follow Washington State Magazine:        LinkedIn @Washington-State-Magazine        Bluesky @wastatemagazine.bsky.social        X (formerly Twitter) @wsmagazine        Facebook @WashingtonStateMagazine        Instagram @WashingtonStateMagazine        YouTube @WashingtonStateMagazine        Email newsletterHow do you like the magazine podcast? What WSU stories do you want to hear? Let us know.Give to the magazine

U.S. foreign policy objectives often conflict with its professed values. On the one hand, Washington affirms its dedication to democracy and human rights, and on the other, it supports dictators and repressive regimes. Do the interests of large U.S.-based multinational corporations factor into the formulation of foreign policy? What role does the world's most powerful military play? Is there an intersection between the sword and the dollar? Recorded at Washington State University.

Guest: Kate Evans, Professor in the Department of Horticulture at Washington State University

Bryan Kohberger's time as a PhD student and teaching assistant at Washington State University was short-lived but his tenure generated hundreds of pages of records. WSU recently released a new trove of records that includes voicemails, texts messages and emails with concerning information about the case and whether Kohberger could have been caught sooner. Law&Crime's Angenette Levy goes through the records in this episode of Crime Fix — a daily show covering the biggest stories in crime.PLEASE SUPPORT THE SHOW: Download the FREE Upside App at https://upside.app.link/crimefix to get an extra 25 cents bonus for every gallon on your first tank of gas.Host:Angenette Levy https://twitter.com/Angenette5CRIME FIX PRODUCTION:Head of Social Media, YouTube - Bobby SzokeSocial Media Management - Vanessa BeinVideo Editing - Daniel CamachoGuest Booking - Alyssa Fisher & Diane KayeSTAY UP-TO-DATE WITH THE LAW&CRIME NETWORK:Watch Law&Crime Network on YouTubeTV: https://bit.ly/3td2e3yWhere To Watch Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3akxLK5Sign Up For Law&Crime's Daily Newsletter: https://bit.ly/LawandCrimeNewsletterRead Fascinating Articles From Law&Crime Network: https://bit.ly/3td2IqoLAW&CRIME NETWORK SOCIAL MEDIA:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawandcrime/Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawCrimeNetworkFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/lawandcrimeTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lawandcrimenetworkTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lawandcrimeSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

*Content Warning: institutional betrayal, suicide, physical assault, sexual assault, rape, hazing, on-campus violence, gender discrimination. Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources   SWW Sticker Shop!: https://brokencyclemedia.com/sticker-shop SWW S25 Theme Song & Artwork: The S25 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart instagram.com/okaynotgreat/ The S25 theme song is a cover of Glad Rag's U Think U from their album Wonder Under, performed by the incredible Abayomi instagram.com/Abayomithesinger. The S25 theme song cover was produced by Janice “JP” Pacheco instagram.com/jtooswavy/ at The Grill Studios in Emeryville, CA instagram.com/thegrillstudios/ Follow Something Was Wrong: Website: somethingwaswrong.com  IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcast TikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast  Follow Tiffany Reese: IG: instagram.com/lookieboo Support It's On Us: Website: https://itsonus.org/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsonus/ Sources:  Bedera, Nicole. On the Wrong Side: How Universities Protect Perpetrators and Betray Survivors of Sexual Violence. Oakland: University of California Press, 2024. Epstein, Ray. Alexandra Cooper of ‘Call Her Daddy' Calls It Harassment. The Nation, June 25, 2025.https://www.thenation.com/article/society/call-her-daddy-alexandra-cooper-harassment-boston-university/ Families of Slain Idaho College Students Sue Killer's University. NBC News, January 10, 2026.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/families-slain-idaho-college-students-sue-killers-university-rcna252577 Goncalves et al. v. Washington State University. Complaint filed January 7, 2026, Washington Superior Court.https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2026/01/2026-01-07-goncalves-complaint-4899-6440-6150-v.1.pdf Holland, Kathryn J., Elizabeth Q. Hutchison, Courtney E. Ahrens, and M. Gabriela Torres.Reporting Is Not Supporting: Why Mandatory Supporting, Not Mandatory Reporting, Must Guide University Sexual Misconduct Policies.Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 118, no. 52 (2021).https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2116515118 Hulu Press. Call Her Alex (Documentary Series). Premiere Date: June 10, 2025.https://press.hulu.com/shows/call-her-alex/ Newins, Amie R., Sarah W. White, and Victoria L. Thompson.Title IX Mandated Reporting: The Views of University Employees and Students. Behavioral Sciences 8, no. 11 (2018): 106.https://doi.org/10.3390/bs8110106https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6262634/ U.S. Department of Education: Title IX Regulations. 34 C.F.R. Part 106 (2020–present).https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-34/subtitle-B/chapter-I/part-106 Advocates for Youth.  https://www.advocatesforyouth.org/our-programs/ Advocates for Youth x Know Your IX: www.advocatesforyouth.org/campaigns/know-your-ix/ Know Your IX. https://www.knowyourix.org/ FOX 13 Seattle. Families of Idaho Students Sue WSU Over Kohberger Case. January 2026. https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/families-idaho-students-bryan-kohberger-sue-wsu Audio Sources: Forbes Breaking News, "Inside the ‘Stunning' Wrongful Death Lawsuit Families of Kohberger Victims Filed Against WSU" https://youtu.be/k6VrkRvkbmE?si=TMBLvPy-InuE9lB5 CBS Mornings, "Call Her Daddy Host Alex Cooper Alleges Sexual Harassment by Boston University Soccer Coach" https://youtu.be/SzYbFdWxc20?si=pXJOVGfXKxwjCfJ2 WFXR News, "What Does a Federal Title IX Investigation Mean for Liberty University" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urKQl7PO1Do NBC News, "New Lawsuit Filed in Northwestern University Hazing Scandal" https://youtu.be/QwhIfGASz7g 

Why does religion still dominate American politics when so many other wealthy democracies secularized long ago? In this episode, Michael Shermer talks with historian Matthew Avery Sutton about the long relationship between Christianity and American power. From the Puritans to Lincoln, from the Scopes trial to the Religious Right, from slavery to same-sex marriage, this conversation tracks how religious belief has shaped the country, and how politics keeps reshaping religion in return. Matthew Avery Sutton is the Claudius O. and Mary Johnson Distinguished Professor and chair of the Department of History at Washington State University. His new book is Chosen Land: How Christianity Made America and Americans Remade Christianity.

 In this episode of Pollination, host Dr. Andony Melathopoulos talks with Dr. Elizabeth Murray ( Mt. James Entomological Collection, Washington State University) about pollen wasps (Masarinae) and how they represent a rare, parallel shift to bees from carnivory to provisioning young with pollen. The conversation covers pollen wasp origins around 125 million years ago alongside bees, likely in arid Western Gondwana as angiosperms rose, their global but dry-region-biased distribution, low species diversity (

Today, we’re bringing you the best from newsrooms around the PNW… First, computer science researchers at the University of Washington are testing if a phone app can accurately monitor a fetus' heart rate during pregnancy. Next, Washington State University’s Nuclear Science Center is ramping up research and training to meet the increasing need for energy. And finally, Oregon came within one day of announcing it was feral-swine free – and then another wild pig appeared. We can only make Seattle Now because listeners support us. Tap here to make a gift and keep Seattle Now in your feed. Got questions about local news or story ideas to share? We want to hear from you! Email us at seattlenow@kuow.org, leave us a voicemail at (206) 616-6746 or leave us feedback online.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You may have heard that a little dirt is good for kids. It helps them build up their immune systems, and sets them on a path to future health. But what kind of filth does the trick? Producer Kathleen Davis digs into the latest science on the benefits of exposing kids to the outdoors with microbiologist Jack Gilbert and pediatric epidemiologist Amber Fyfe-Johnson.Guests:Dr. Jack Gilbert is a microbiologist and professor at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography and in the department of pediatrics in UC San Diego School of Medicine.Dr. Amber Fyfe-Johnson is an associate professor and pediatric epidemiologist at Institute for Research and Education to Advance Community Health at Washington State University.Transcripts for each episode are available within 1-3 days at sciencefriday.com. Subscribe to this podcast. Plus, to stay updated on all things science, sign up for Science Friday's newsletters.