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This week, Ray and The Moscow Mush have the Liverpool game at Anfield to go through. A disappointing loss, but with plenty of positives to take. During the ITN News the pair give their verdict on the possible appointment of Danny Rohl and it's that time again to name the Player & Goal of the Month for February. There's talk on Tyler Dibling. Will he be a part of the squad next season, or is the lure of a Premier League side too much for the youngster? There's next week's home return against Wolves. They get the help from Dave Azzopardi of Talking Wolves to give his input from a Wolves point of view. Talking Wolves: @talkingwolves Dave Azzopardi: @daveazzopardi In That Number Podcast email: inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter/X: @NumberPodcast Instagram: inthatnumberpodcast Facebook: InThatNumberPodcast Bluesky: inthatnumberpodcast.bsky.social Linktree: linktr.ee/inthatnumberpodcast Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/inthatnumber Telegram: t.m/inthatnumber Apple Podcasts Spotify Ray Hunt Twitter/X: @84RayOfSunshine Kevin Milverton Twitter/X: @moscowmush Tim Bisantz Instagram: @tbisantz Tom Pickett Instagram: @tompickett98 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Kevin and Tim sit on the bench leaving Ray and Tom the unenviable task of discussing the latest debacle. The eighth consecutive home loss. This time, Brighton & Hove Albion heap more misery on Saints. In the ITN News the pair discuss the injury concerns at centre-back and Simon Rusk's new role. With Chelsea coming up on Tuesday night, they get the insight from Mike from At The Bridge Pod with a Chelsea perspective. Special thanks to At The Bridge Pod. Twitter/X: @AtTheBridgePod In That Number Podcast email: inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter/X: @NumberPodcast Instagram: inthatnumberpodcast Facebook: InThatNumberPodcast Bluesky: inthatnumberpodcast.bsky.social Linktree: linktr.ee/inthatnumberpodcast Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/inthatnumber Telegram:t.m/inthatnumber Apple Podcasts Spotify Ray Hunt Twitter/X: @84RayOfSunshine Kevin Milverton Twitter/X: @moscowmush Tim Bisantz Instagram: @tbisantz Tom Pickett Instagram: @tompickett98 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this week's episode, Ray, Kevin and Tom focus on Saturday's defeat at home to Bournemouth. In the ITN News they discuss Juric's tactics and whether to ditch the back three and just what to do with Armel Bella-Kotchap. With no Tim this week, they get the help from Joshua of Together BHA to give us some insight from a Brighton's perspective regarding next week's fixture. There's also the return of the quiz. Which did make the cut this time. Special thanks to Joshua from Together BHA Twitter/X: @TogetherBHA In That Number Podcast email:inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter/X: @NumberPodcast Instagram: inthatnumberpodcast Facebook: InThatNumberPodcast Bluesky: inthatnumberpodcast.bsky.social Linktree: linktr.ee/inthatnumberpodcast Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/inthatnumber Telegram: t.m/inthatnumber Apple Podcasts Spotify Ray Hunt Twitter/X: @84RayOfSunshine Kevin Milverton Twitter/X: @moscowmush Tim Bisantz Instagram: @tbisantz Tom Pickett Instagram: @tompickett98 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this edition of In That Number, Ray, Tim and Tom discuss our FA Cup Fourth Round exit to Burnley. In the ITN News they go over the events from deadline day. Gavin Bazunu goes on loan to Standard Liége, Tim discusses Sam Amo-Ameyaw leaving for Strasbourg on an obligation to buy and Tom chats over Adam Armstrong and the driving force behind the decision. Tom gives his thoughts on the Flynn Downes situation and what's next for him. They also go over the appointment of Johannes Spors and there's a preview for next week's clash as we prepare to host Bournemouth. In That Number Podcast email: inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter/X:@NumberPodcast Instagram:inthatnumberpodcast Facebook:InThatNumberPodcast Bluesky:inthatnumberpodcast.bsky.social Linktree:linktr.ee/inthatnumberpodcast BuyMe a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/inthatnumber Telegram:t.m/inthatnumber Apple Podcasts Spotify Ray Hunt Twitter/X:@84RayOfSunshine Kevin Milverton Twitter/X:@moscowmush Tim Bisantz Instagram: @tbisantz Tom Pickett Instagram:@tompickett98 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joining Kathryn for this episode of VETchat by The Webinar Vet is Sharon MacArthur, otherwise known as 'Miss Menopause'. Sharon is a Menopause Educator and has appeared on BBC Breakfast, ITN News, Channel 5 and Victoria Derbyshire and is a regular on BBC Radio talking about the subject of menopause. In this episode, Kathryn and Sharon discuss the importance of addressing menopause in the workplace. Sharon shares her journey with menopause, the common symptoms women experience, and the misconceptions surrounding this natural phase of life. She emphasises the need for organizations to educate their staff about menopause, create supportive environments, and recognise the financial implications of ignoring this issue. The conversation highlights the importance of individualised approaches to managing menopause and the need for open discussions in the workplace. View the Miss Menopause website here

S5E02: AI and Archives – the Human Touch The role of the archivist may be changing with the advent of AI-enabled services to enrich metadata, but there must be human oversight to ensure the accuracy of data. That's the view of leading library and media management expert, Kathey Battrick. In the episode, she also outlines the importance of identifying use cases where AI-enhanced metadata can help users find what they need, and her desire for more work to be done in the field of large language models (LLMs) to support the Arabic language. Our Guest This Episode Kathey Battrick Kathey Battrick joined Asharq News in 2019 as a senior manager in the library and media management department. She is responsible for setting up and leading the media library at Asharq, overseeing the management, cataloguing, AI indexing, and preservation of the organization's valuable production assets and archive.   She has a wealth of experience in media and archive management and previously worked as the director of operations for ITN Source, the archive and clips sales arm of ITN News in London, where she led projects such as the digitization of ITN's archive and managed the archive operations team.   More Resources For more on this topic, check out Avid Guidelines on Responsible AI – Avid CTO Kevin Riley sets out the company's approach to AI Avid White Paper on Responsible AI for Creative Professionals – How can AI be applied to assist creative teams? Contact Us Questions? Comments? Cool ideas? Get in touch: makingthemedia@avid.com or @craigaw1969. Follow Avid at @avid. Credits Host: Craig Wilson Producer: Matt Diggs Social: Wim Van den Broeck Theme Music: Greg “Stryke” Chin

What is the media today? It used to be newspapers or magazines - or broadcast media, television and radio. Today, anyone can be a ‘journalist' spreading news, views, comment and opinion through social media – that is largely unrestricted and unregulated.To help me answer that question, I'm delighted to be joined by Andrew Harvey for 30 years a main presenter for BBC Television News, and latterly for ITN. After leaving the television arena, Andrew set up and now runs Harvey Leach, a media training company.During this episode we cover the value of establishing good press contacts, and also advice on how to react when a crisis situation attracts the interest of the media.Andrew also provides a fascinating insight into his days presenting television prime time news bulletins.LINKHarvey Leach Media Training

With Tim on his holiday's, Ray and Kevin are joined by super sub Will Green. A former St. Mary's steward who chats about his time and some of the players he got to know. The moving of the away fans at St. Mary's is the key agenda on the ITN News this week. Will it work? Is it a good thing? The three also discuss Saturday's record-breaking 21 game unbeaten run as they closed out Swansea 3-1 at Swansea.com Stadium and they prepare for next week's trip to Watford in the FA Cup. 

This week, Ray, Kevin and Tim celebrate the record-setting game against Sheffield Wednesday as we made 20 games in all competitions undefeated; a feat, that hasn't been achieved since 1921-22. The Saints cruised to a 4-0 win over latest victims Sheffield Wednesday, marking nine straight wins at home with six clean sheets in that stretch. Adam Armstrong and Ryan Fraser continue their stunning form, as does Ché Adams who's the subject in the ITN News. There's also the latest from the transfer window including Joe Rothwell and Joe O'Brien-Whitmarsh. Tim is on hand to preview Russell Martin's first return to Swansea. Can we make it 20 league games undefeated?

This week The Moscow Mush returns to chat with Ray and Tim about both games from the past week. The New Year's Day encounter with Norwich at Carrow Road followed by the start of our FA Cup campaign at home to League Two's Walsall. In the ITN News, there's the latest from the transfer window, the results of Player and Goal of the Month for December and the injury sustained by Samuel Edozie prompting yet another discussion on VAR. Tim gives his thoughts and feelings ahead of our return to Championship play at home to Sheffield Wednesday.

The boys are back with a further four points from the week to chat over. Firstly Super Gavin Bazunu's brilliance clinched us a point at Deepdale followed by a dominating win over Wayne Ronney's Birmingham. Ray, Kevin and Tim celebrate an undefeated October, taking the total to six in a row and look ahead to November's fixtures. Can we stay undefeated through November? Stay tuned for Player and Goal of the Month polls during the week. Tim is on hand with his preview. This week's focus is on Millwall. There's an injury update and all the usual from the ITN News.

This week, Ray, Kevin and Tim reunite to chat over another last minute winner from saviour Ché Adams as he helped Saints take all three points away from home at Argyle. Adams is also the centre of the ITN News with interest from Everton lurking. Plus all the latest from the Transfer window which is rapidly drawing to a close. The trio discuss the finer points from the Fans' Forum and Tim gives us his preview for next week's visit of QPR.

Peter A Smith, reporter at ITN News, reports from the devastated town of Lahaina in Maui.

It's been a bad week for Saints. Starting with the loss of Tino Livramento and being dumped out of the EFL Cup to League Two's Gillingham. The trio of Ray, Kevin and Tim discuss the fallout and those Russell Martin comments post match. The week continued to get worse as we prepared to say goodbye to our captain and heartbeat of Southampton Football Club James Ward-Prowse. The week ended with the return home to St. Mary's and the second 4-4 draw in consecutive home matches. There's the usual ITN News, transfer news, U21 & Women's catch-up and Tim finishes off with a preview of our trip to Plymouth next Saturday lunchtime.

For Dublin's own David Clinch, media is serious business. He's been working on the front lines of innovative journalism and the complete overhaul of the news business for the past 30 years.He jokes that he's been called “the Zelig of the media,” an “accidental journalist” popping up in key roles at the companies driving the changing media landscape, including ITN News in London, CNN where he helped manage the CNN International Desk in Atlanta and pioneered the use of social media for international newsgathering, a direction he pursued to help our previous Irish Stew guest Mark Little build Storyful, the social media news agency at the intersection of media and technology.Currently, David concentrates on the core elements that enable journalism to thrive, particularly the financial underpinnings that sustain modern news media. He serves as the VP of Partnerships at Mather Economics, assisting companies in formulating sustainable business strategies and curating the influential “Mather Report. As the founder and consultant for Media Growth Partners he's helping keep small news organizations viable, while developing a framework for capturing the value of local news reporting.”Born in England to Irish parents, David stayed there just long enough to develop an English accent that was “beaten out of me” he jokes when the family moved to Dublin. He studied at Belvedere College and Trinity College Dublin, saying “it was your fate if you were a Clinch in Dublin at that time.”David shares how Bono opened up his world view, his start in media with a pirate radio station, why he was told he'd never work for RTE, how he found his way into television, his move to Atlanta to work for the emerging global news powerhouse CNN, the growth of digital forensic journalism, why he's so concerned with establishing the value of local media, and his open invitation to anyone in media to show them the framework he's building to build local media through what he calls “organized laziness.”Join us for “a short history of the future of news,” with media innovator, David Clinch.LinksWebsites Mather Economics Media Growth Partners Social MediaLinkedIn: David ClinchTwitter: David ClinchTwitter: Mather Economics Twitter: Media Growth Partners

This week's edition of In That Number sees Ray and Moscow Mush talk over what could have been at The Emirates? Was it a point gained or two dropped? They question Sélles' team selection and strategy in the second half and move on to the busy week preparing for the visit of Bouremouth and the long trip up to Newcastle. During the ITN News they delve into the contracts and the possibilities of losing our key players if relegation came. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ray and Kevin are joined by Tim to go over the demoralising 4-1 home defeat against Manchester City. During the ITN News the guys debate where the fault lies with Sport Republic. The transfer policy or the managerial appointments. With City well and truly behind us, they prepare for yet another crucial game at home to Crystal Palace. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

In this edition of In That Number, Ray, Kevin and Tim are back to go over both home games from the week against Brentford and Spurs. The trio break down where it went wrong on Wednesday night and the turnaround on Saturday afternoon, including the Conte outburst post match. In the ITN News they give go over the international call-ups, the remaining fixtures on the season, the horrific injures to Armel Bella-Kotchap and Jan Bednarek and they award the belated Goal and Player of the Month for February. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

This week Ray and Kevin are joined by Tim from the off to go over events from Sunday afternoon's massive fixture against West Ham and discuss Ralph's situation. They also prepare for another busy week and Ralph faces more questions as we plan for our trip to Bournemouth on Wednesday and the return to St. Mary's to face table-toppers Arsenal. The boys also give their thoughts on the Joe Shields situation in the ITN News along with the usual updates from the B-Team, Women's and U18's. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

This week the boys pick the bones of the awful visit to Villa Park and discuss the team selection issues, the lack of creativity and just what does Stuart Armstrong need to do to get a start? In the ITN News they say goodbye to Nathan Redmond, and comment over Moussa Djenepo's new four-year deal. Tim is back from his holiday to give us his insight for Everton's visit in a fortnight's time. There's the usual predictions and Fantasy Football to follow on. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

The boys are back after a fortnight break to bring you up to date with all the happenings from the club. The ITN News brings you two departures, one arrival, catch up with the B Team and three new debutants who yielded a goal and an assist between them. Ray & Kevin go over the second round Carabao Cup tie at Cambridge followed by the return home to face Man United in the league. Tim Bisantz is on hand to give his views on our upcoming week with games against Chelsea and Wolves on the schedule. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Another opening day defeat, and back-to-back 4-1 losses. This time, Ray & Tim discuss the collapse on the road to Tottenham. Tim also gives his preview for next week's home visit of Leeds United, in what has become a very important game considering the August fixtures. There's the usual ITN News segment and we catch up with Saints B and women teams. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

In this last episode of the season, Ray and The Moscow Mush award the annual SHITNA's for Player, Goal, Match and many more. They also give their thoughts for what is needed to strengthen ahead of the 2022-23 campaign. In the ITN News they go over the latest departures of Kelvin Davis and the other members of the coaching staff, Fraser Forster' Spurs medical, the international call ups, news from the pre-season fixtures and all the latest transfers news. There's also the conclusion of our prediction league, Super 6 and Fantasy Football as the winners are announced. On behalf of Ray and Kevin, we would like to thank everyone for listening this season. Saints have had a difficult end to the season, and personally, we've both had a rough going lately. We are so privileged to able to chat about this team, even if the results don't go the way we always wish. Have a great summer, and we're be back stronger than ever. Up the Saints! We March On. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Ray & Tim lament over yet another embarrassing defeat - This time at that hands of Brentford. The duo go through some of your messages regarding the current crisis and whether you're in the 'Ralph In' or 'Ralph Out' camp. It's not all doom and gloom. In the ITN News they celebrate the U18's and Women's success and discuss the Awards' Evening. Tim keeps us up to speed with Tino's recovery, Tyler Dibling's fortnight and how the B side closed out in style. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

After hearing us discuss the 1984 bombing of the Grand Hotel in Brighton, listener and former Labour MP Brendon Burns got in touch with us as he was there at the time as a dapper young reporter for ITN News.

Ray and Tim welcome back the one and only Moscow Mush Kevin Milverton to talk about Fraser Forster's heroic performance in guiding us to an unlikely victory over Arsenal. The three discuss the keeper situation moving forward with the contracts expiring in the ITN News along with Saints Women taking top spot in National League South and preparing for a South Coast Derby. Tim is on hand to give us the lowdown on next week's schedule as we hit the road to Burnley and Brighton. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Ray & Tim are back for the weekly therapy session to discuss Saints' humiliating 6-0 home thrashing to Chelsea, and rip apart the defensive errors that is seeing our season plummet once again. In the ITN News the two chat over Matt Le Tissier's latest controversy. However, it wasn't all bad as they celebrate Dom Ballard's fresh new deal, and laud over the Women's side's impressive 2-1 win at title rivals Ipswich. Tim does his best to stay positive in previewing next week's clash at home to Arsenal before they close out with the usual shout outs from this week's predictions, Super 6 and FPL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Ray & Tim discuss the slow death of Southampton Football Club following back-to-back home losses in four days and drop a chance of six points against Newcastle United & Watford. In the ITN News the guys discuss the injury updates of Alex McCarthy and Nathan Tella, the Premier League awards for February, Broja's Chelsea loan predicament and the B and Women's week. There's the usual Extra Time segment with predictions, Super 6 and FPL Every day above the drop zone is a good one! Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Brothers Ray and Kevin see their appetite whetted by Southampton's ritual consumption of Norwich City at home, especially the show-stopping specialty from Oriol Romeu. The ITN News is full of Kosher goodness about our loanees, women's team and B Team. In the extra time segment, strange dog-loving neighbour Tim drops in to tell us about Saints' upcoming fixtures in the FA cup against West Ham and away to Villa in the league. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

This week we have a very different episode talking about a very different topic. When my amazing assistant suggested this week's guest, I didn't immediately see how her area of expertise – and passion – would fit with this show. But it was largely due to my ignorance on the topic. The more I thought about it, and having recorded this episode, I realized there is a huge link. So, let me introduce Sharon MacArthur. Sharon is the owner of Miss Menopause which was formed 4 years ago in response to the lack of information about menopause in the workplace. Sharon works face to face and online around the country with organizations larger and small. She has appeared on BBC Breakfast, ITN News and Victoria Derbyshire and is a regular on BBC Radio Newcastle taking about the subject of menopause. Sharon is on a mission to educate everyone about this life event and believes that ignorance can no longer be an excuse. Prior to founding Miss Menopause, Sharon worked as an executive coach to senior leaders, and before that she held senior positions herself. She is very well placed to be talking to leadership teams about the menopause, how it affects productivity and the number of women in c-suite positions. Before we get into the episode though I have an ad from one of our sponsors, estarli. Before we get into the episode I have an ad for you from our very first sponsor – a brand that I'm incredibly excited to talk about. Partly because they're based in my home town and partly because I love what they do and create. Let me introduce you to estarli, an alternative transport solutions company making electric bikes. They say their eBikes are for everywhere and in my view, they're also for everyone. If I'm totally honest, when electric bikes first hit the market, I was pretty skeptical and dismissive of them as an avid road biker… but that says more about my thinking at the time than the bikes. Having spent the last week using one to commute to and from my office, I'm now a huge fan. The addition of the motor means that I can quickly and easily get to and from work without being sweaty, and a little dishevelled when I get there! And let's face it, the two-mile trip each way pedalling on a standard bike isn't really going to touch the sides in terms of building fitness for my next 100mile race!  The e20 model is light yet sturdy and foldable yet stylish, and I love it because it comes in orange, amongst other colours. It's got a 50km range, Shimano 7 speed gear set, 5 power modes and a removable battery for easy charging. It also comes with 20 inch wheels, chunky tyres, disc brakes as well as being road legal and available on cycle schemes. And the best thing? It doesn't even look like an eBike! Our friends over at estarli are giving you a free helmet with your order when you use the discount code, 'benmorton' - all lower case – and we've included the web link in the show notes below. But for now, let's get back to this episode with Sharon MacArthur. As you listen to this episode, all I would say is keep an open mind, as you'll get a lot from this episode and see why the menopause is a subject leaders should have some awareness of. Links mentioned: Miss Menopause: https://www.missmenopause.co.uk (https://www.missmenopause.co.uk)   Estarli bikes: https://www.estarli.co.uk (https://www.estarli.co.uk) – grab your FREE helmet when ordering a bike with code ‘benmorton' Ben's Free Leadership Mini-Course: https://mailchi.mp/b3d5c50adb91/10_4_10 (https://mailchi.mp/b3d5c50adb91/10_4_10)

Kevin and Ray can't disguise their joy and fascination as the Saints assassinate Everton without much of a fight. In the ITN News, we discuss Southampton's 'revolutionary' new tactics, Martin Semmens's interview with the BBC, fixture and player movements, and the loanees, women's and B-Team. There's no Tim this week, so we rely on our own intelligence to navigate the upcoming home fixture against bottom-of-the-table Norwich. If you stick around to the end, you'll spy predictions, Fantasy Premier League and Super 6 updates, as well as a new game. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Kevin and Ray love it when a plan comes together, and this week, Colonel Ralph "Hannibal" Hasenhüttl put on masterclasses to outsmart both Antonio Conte and Ralf Rangnick and shut up the fools that bring up last year's score ad nauseum in the commentary. Central to the plan's success were the crack commando unit of Stuart "Faceman" Armstrong, Armando "Howlin' Mad" Broja and Ché B.A. Mac Adams - The A-Team! In the ITN News, we discuss men down with injuries, Ralph's interview in which he considers demobilisation, and the mercenaries soon to be out of contract, not forgetting the usual recon on our loanees, B-Team, and the women's side. Our very own fugitive tough guy Tim is on duty to look at the team in action against Everton on base at St. Mary's. Look no further than the extra time segment for action and adventure, as we find out who's standing to attention and who's gone AWOL in the predictions, Fantasy Premier League and Super 6. We'll be back midweek next week with our usual unrivalled firepower. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

After a short gap in their CV, Kevin and Ray are back to review the FA Cup fourth round tie that went cringeworthily off-script. After Coventry took the lead in the first act, the understudies were swept away for bit parts from Saints' superstars in the second and extra time. With strikes as stratospheric as their careers, Stuart Armstrong and Kyle Walker-Peters made sure the curtains were for the Sky Blues. While no agents phones were ringing this transfer window, Southampton did grab a couple of Willies in January. This means a surprise appearance of the Transfer Rumour Quiz in the ITN News segment, along with a round up of the women's and B Team, and an end to Djenepo's run in the AFCON. There's a lengthy cameo from our very own jobbing Hollywood actor Tim Bisantz, as he previews the upcoming tour dates against Tottenham and Manchester United. There are extra extras in the extra-special extra time segment, including predictions, Fantasy Premier League and Super 6. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Ray and Kevin report on an out-of-this world heroic performance as the Super Saints scored and held back and fought the evil Manchester City for a point each at St. Mary's. The flying superhero who saved the day was none other than super scorpion Mohammed Salisu, a superhero flying into every tackle, block, interception, and clearance with super speed and strength. Rather than the Daily Planet, your super hosts serve you up the ITN News. Tim also swoops in for the second half as his secret alter-ego, T-Bizzle, to preview our next guests in the South Hampshire metropolis, Coventry City. We reveal the secret identities of our Super 6 and Super FPL winners in the usual kryptonite of our comic extra time segment. We'll be landing an extraterrestrial pod in your feeds again in a fortnight! Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

It's been a week of two halves in the soap opera that is Southampton FC. There was such emotion that Ray and Kevin were walking on air as Saints put four past Brentford at St. Mary's. It was the very first moment Dragan Šolak and his right-hand man Henrik Kraft saw the team, and the crowd knew he was there. We belong together and it should stay so forever. Southampton let go of the dream away from home, however, as the flamin' mongrels of Molineux put three in Foster's net to strike us pink despite a moment of magic from our guiding star James Ward-Prowse. Surf hunk Tim returns to regale us with tales of the latest team to arrive on the sunny shores of the Solent: minnows Manchester City. Aside from the ITN News, there's the usual bush tucker of the extra-time segment, with predictions, Super 6 and FPL, as well as another look at the Championship Draft, a contest that's getting tighter than an Aussie swimsuit. Catch some more Rays (and Kevins) next week's episode of our endless serial. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Ray and Kevin just about wake up from what seems like a coma and are still feeling dead inside after the zombie 'Walkers' of Saints' defence allow three goals to get past them at the Emirates. Our attack has also lost its bite: the lack of goals compounded by the loss of our three main strikers. Missing both keepers, we thought the apocalypse was upon us. However, after welcoming in Big Willy Caballero, we know it is! The ITN News looks at various outbreaks and rebuilding the squad as players drop like flies, followed by a customary look at loanees and the more successful Women's and B teams. Tim joins forces with us to look at Southampton's chances of survival against the horde of London clubs poised to attack in December. This week it's a road trip to Selhurst park and a home visit from Brentford. There's also the extra time segment for all you undead out there. Support for In That Number is brought to you by MANSCAPED™ - the best in men's below-the-waist grooming. MANSCAPED™ have just launched The Lawn Mower® 4.0 trimmer in Europe! Join over 4 million men worldwide who trust MANSCAPED™ and Get 20% off and free worldwide shipping with the code ITN20 at manscaped.com Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Your two ITN agents, Ray Hunt and Kevin 'Moscow Mush' Milverton investigate the unexplained phenomenon of Southampton finding ever more mysterious ways of throwing away leads, this time against the Foxes and ten-man Brighton. Apology is policy for Ralph Hasenhüttl after paranormal activity from Alex McCarthy leaves Saints without a first team goalkeeper. There's more conspiracy and intrigue as they look at the secretive machinations of a takeover from the syndicate in the ITN News, as well as the Player and Goal of the Month for November. Tim joins us as unassigned detail as we look to fight the future against Arsenal next weekend. We still want to believe that three points are out there somewhere. Only a true believer would stick around for the extra time segment where we find the truth about predictions, Fantasy Premier League and Super 6. Support for In That Number is brought to you by MANSCAPED™ - the best in men's below-the-waist grooming. MANSCAPED™ have just launched The Lawn Mower® 4.0 trimmer in Europe! Join over 4 million men worldwide who trust MANSCAPED™ and Get 20% off and free worldwide shipping with the code ITN20 at manscaped.com Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Guys... where ARE we? The survivors of a crash landing of a first half are forced to work together in order to survive in a match where hope has deserted them to face the elements of the Merseyside wilderness, desperate to find their way home. Ray and Kevin are the mysterious observers lurking in the background. They travel back in time to look at a week of ITN News, loan watches and the Women's and B teams. Tim joins and flashes forward to the future visits of 'The Others' - Leicester and Brighton to the south of the island. We'll be back both next week and last week to catch up on the action. See you in another life, brother! Support for In That Number is brought to you by MANSCAPED™ - the best in men's below-the-waist grooming. MANSCAPED™ have just launched The Lawn Mower® 4.0 trimmer in Europe! Join over 4 million men worldwide who trust MANSCAPED™ and Get 20% off and free worldwide shipping with the code ITN20 at manscaped.com Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

After a long wait, best friends Ray and Kevin crack open a cold one and pore through a spectacle of dross. An immature second-half performance and irresponsible decisions led to Saints emerging losers against Dean Smith's Norwich City. In Tim's absence, the lads tackle the prospect of visiting Anfield to play Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool. We get a round in each with the ITN News and an international roundup, and there's last orders in the form of the extra time segment. Support for In That Number is brought to you by MANSCAPED™ - the best in men's below-the-waist grooming. MANSCAPED™ have just launched The Lawn Mower® 4.0 trimmer in Europe! Join over 4 million men worldwide who trust MANSCAPED™ and Get 20% off and free worldwide shipping with the code ITN20 at manscaped.com Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Ray and Kevin check their vital signs after a busy shift for the Saints: a painful failed operation at Stamford Bridge in the League Cup and fans are rewarded for being patient as Southampton nurse a 1-0 lead at Vicarage Road despite lacking clinical precision in front of goal. Our very own intern Tim is on hand to give Aston Villa's heartbeat-raising visit to St. Mary's the preview treatment. There's the routine surgery of the ITN News and the intensive care of our Extra Time segment to sooth your ails. Support for In That Number is brought to you by MANSCAPED™ - the best in men's below-the-waist grooming. MANSCAPED™ have just launched The Lawn Mower® 4.0 trimmer in Europe! Join over 4 million men worldwide who trust MANSCAPED™ and Get 20% off and free worldwide shipping with the code ITN20 at manscaped.com Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

This week Saints brought us in warm and they brought us in cold with a 2-2 draw against Burnley in which they were both hunter and prey. Ray and Kevin choose to walk the way of the Armando lore, focusing on a young man whose name will one day be legendary. Well two men, in fact, as Tino Livramento once again showed himself to be a legend of the first order. There's the usual ITN News, and Tim returns to preview two trips to a galaxy far, far away - London. Saints have high hopes of hunting some bounty either at Stamford Bridge in the cup or Vicarage Road in the league. The rebellious shenanigans of the extra time segment close the pod. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Loved speaking to my guest this week and I defy you not to be motivated by his positive energy! Tre Lowe is a London based musician, mentor, and entrepreneur  Producer-songwriter of the award-winning band Architechs. Notable for their chart-topping song: Body Groove. A regular music contributor on ITN news. A landlord and property investor, with 20 years of experience. Additionally, Tre has a successful coaching & consulting company called Alpha Clique, specialising in success & performance coaching for entrepreneurs and business owners.  Tre is a passionate wellness advocate, as a lifelong sufferer, he campaigns for tinnitus awareness, reaching an audience of millions. He has appeared on BBC Breakfast News, ITV, ITN News, BBC Radio, BBC 5 Live, The Sun newspaper, and numerous others Some key points from our interview:·        How he believes that his parents' ability to stay unbroken has helped him·        How he has had a catalogue of events through his life but learnt to stay strong·        How he has turned his own pain into something better·        How he's grateful for the pain he's been through otherwise he wouldn't be so obsessed with mindset and personal development·        How he's so proud of the legacy that his brother has left with their hit song “Body Groove”  *                                     *                                             *                                 *"Unbroken: Healing Through Storytelling" features  individuals who have all triumphed after adversity and have not just bounced back in life, but forward and are now making a difference for others.Hosted by Madeleine Black, the show will share stories of all the amazing people Madeleine has met on her own journey as an author/speaker and these stories will heal, motivate, inspire and bring hope when they share their wisdom and knowledge with her.You can find out more about Madeleine, her story and her memoir, Unbroken,  from her website: https://madeleineblack.co.uk/ 

Ray and Kevin are your socialite tossers to guide you through the rollercoaster of emotions as Saints go off script to equalise at Stamford Bridge before crashing back to a less structured reality of a red card for James Ward-Prowse and conceding two goals late on to leave London empty-handed. There's more antics, romance, and heartbreak in the ITN News, Tim is on hand to preview the upcoming arrival of Leeds United to St. Mary's, and it's the usual flirting and light petting in the extra time segment. We'll be back in a fortnight to calm your nerves again. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Au revoir! This week, your two favourite plonkers are back with a fitting tribute to the late John Challis: an Only Fools and Horses mashup fit for the crème de la menthe of Peckham! You know it makes sense! Light relief is the order de jour, after Saints scrape through to the fourth round of the league cup on penalties and then Bednarek and Salisu act like a couple of dipsticks to allow Jimenez the only goal of the game at home to Wolves. Chateauneuf du Pape! In the ITN News, we take a look at loanees, Bojack 'Trigger' Horseman's ailing B Team, and Marieanne Spacey-Cale's high-flying women. There's a preview from Tim and the usual nonsense of the extra time segment. Lovely jubbly! We'll be back next week to talk about the win at Chelsea - who knows? Who dares wins, and maybe this time next year we'll be Champions League! Bonjour! Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

Ray and Kevin take an intimate look at Saints' trip to the City, where even though nobody scored, one team was truly shafted by VAR. We couldn't help but wonder what might have been... Southampton's defensive quartet nonetheless stopped 'til they dropped in a courageous display of diligence and tactics. There's a little foreplay in the form of ITN News and updates on the loanees, ladies and the B team. It all comes to a climax with a look at the action-packed week that sees Saints travel to Sheffield in the cup and take on Wolves at home. Finally there's the sweaty glow of the extra time segment to send you on your way. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

In That Number is back again! Ray and Kevin sit through a drab daytime affair at St. Mary's, as Saints and West Ham's bidding war is decorated only by latest rental property Armando Brojadona. In the ITN News, Kevin gives an epic run-down of the past fortnight's developments in the international roundup and we take a look at the up-and-coming Women's team, the dilapidated B team, and the loanees in urgent need of renovation. It's more loss than profit as we say goodbye both to Michael Obafemi, who was auctioned off to Swansea, and to hot property Rachel Panting, who makes a permanent move to Oxford United. Tim is back with his do-it-yourself preview of Southampton's trip to Manchester and there's all the usual fixtures and fittings in the Extra Time segment. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

As the countdown to the transfer deadline ticks away, Ray and Kevin look at the 8 new cats in the men's team and look back at a week with 10 Saints goals on the road. There's the usual ITN News, including latest signing Lyanco, the final spin for 2021 on the transfer roundabout, and a brief international roundup. Tim joins to preview the Hammers' visit to St. Mary's after the international break. There's also the usual extra time japes. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

This week, Ray and Kevin cut through the cynicism and fakery straight after a result that (almost) nobody saw coming: a hard fought point at St. Mary's against the 'Red Johns' of Ole Gunnar Solskjær's Manchester United. Tino Livramento stole the limelight as he cut through the Red Devils' lines. Also under investigation are the latest ITN News, transfer rumours, loan updates and a look at the birds and the Bs. Tim joins to preview two distant away fixtures against Newport County and Newcastle United, plus the usual soothsaying and trickery in the extra time segment. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

This week, Ray and Kevin tackle the most inevitable of tragedies - Saints throwing away a lead. Predictably, the first game of the season at Goodison was marked by a baffling team selection, a great debut goal, poor defending, ineffective substitutions, and a Richarlison goal. In the ITN News there's even more transfer news, a cup tie, loan updates and a look at the birds and the Bs. Tim joins to preview the upcoming visit of Manchester United to St. Mary's, and there's the usual nonsense in the extra time segment. Don't forget to join our Fantasy Football, Super 6 and predictor leagues:

ITN News is part of the iconography of British television news. But who watches bulletins these days? Younger audiences are moving online for their fix of news. Some older demographics are attracted to more partisan, opinionated platforms, such as GB News. And politicians have openly disparaged the so-called “mainstream media.” How can ITV's News at Ten and Channel 4 News win audiences back - and regain our trust? Studio engineer: Nigel Dix Producer: Hannah Sander Presenter: Clive Myrie

Murf and Lee record on the day the FFCC Drafts have started. Murf ends up getting a team and makes his pick live on air. We also talk Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson, Cam Akers, Darrell Henderson, Michael Thomas, Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston, DeAndre Hopkins and more! Also- grab your FFCC T-Shirts here: https://5yardrush.co.uk/shop/page/2/£25 but £5 goes to UNIQUE our charity.If you want to donate to UNIQUE- here is the link: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/5-yard-rushIf you want a digital copy of the playbook with £2 off- use the code FFCC until the 16th August and get it for just £7.99 https://5yardrush.co.uk/product/the-fantasy-football-playbook-2021-edition/

Get ready for a surprise as Ray and The Moscow Mush are at pains to recall the almost two weeks that have passed since the last episode. Saints' eyes were predictably on their virtual vacations as they predictably lost 3-0 at the London Vibratordrome. In the ITN News, we talk about international call-ups and leave-outs, the new Hummel kit, former Saints, and we fire up the transfer roundabout once again ahead of the window opening. Also, there's Goal and Player of the Month for May and a final look at the Super 6 and Fantasy Premier League tables. Don't forget to vote in our Twitter polls in the run up to the Southampton Heterodox In That Number™ Awards 2021

Ray & The Moscow Mush are on hand to review two cosmic 3-1 victories for Southampton against Crystal Palace and Fulham that see them through the wormhole and making a giant leap up the table. Aside from Nathan Tella's stellar performance and Danny Ings' return to form, they discuss Ryan Bertrand taking the next step in his career in ITN News. With Tim's help, we look to the future, going beyond the imaginable a year ago, as fans can go back to the stands to cheer on Saints against Leeds and go further to the last game of the season away to West Ham. In that Number Podcast - SAINTS' DESTINY LIES ABOVE US. email: inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @NumberPodcast Instagram: inthatnumberpodcast Facebook: InThatNumberPodcast Ray Hunt - Twitter: @RayHunt84 Kevin 'Moscow Mush' Milverton - Twitter: @moscowmush Tim Bisantz - Instagram: @tbisantz Alex Haas - Instagram: @alcapwn156

Ray & The Moscow Mush try to take the positives out of three points that passed us by in another comedy of love lost and what might have been, this time a 2-0 loss against Jürgen Klopp's Liverpool. There are two teams arriving in St. Mary's inbox next week - Woy's Crystal Palace and all-but-relegated-but-will-probably-be-relegated-by-the-time-we-face-them Fulham. Tim is our American on-line to preview them both. Plus, you pick 'the one' in Goal and Player of the Month, ITN News, predictions and all the usual hi-jinks and shenanigans. In that Number Podcast - ODD IN LIFE ... YOUR LOVE ON-LINE. email: inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @NumberPodcast Instagram: inthatnumberpodcast Facebook: InThatNumberPodcast Ray Hunt - Twitter: @RayHunt84 Kevin 'Moscow Mush' Milverton - Twitter: @moscowmush Tim Bisantz - Instagram: @tbisantz Alex Haas - Instagram: @alcapwn156

This week, Ray & The Moscow Mush overcome the deadly fear to look over Friday night's well-fought point at home to Leicester, despite having 10-men for 80 minutes as the Foxes kept coming back in a bloodthirsty lust for an equaliser. The guys discuss Vestergaard's wrongful dismissal at the hands of Robert Jones and Jonathan Moss In the ITN News they mull over Sam McQueen's sad news, the change of fixtures and injury reports on Romeu, Ings and Bertrand before checking in on the Women and (zom)B-Team. Later, we pick Tim's brains as he gives his thoughts on the draw and previews next week's terrifying trip to Anfield to face reigning champions Liverpool.  In That Number Podcast - Something New, Something Evil, Something Unspeakably Terrifying! email: inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @NumberPodcast Instagram: inthatnumberpodcast Facebook: InThatNumberPodcast Ray Hunt - Twitter: @RayHunt84 Kevin 'Moscow Mush' Milverton - Twitter: @moscowmush Tim Bisantz - Instagram: @tbisantz  Alex Haas - Instagram: @alcapwn156

Skip the Queue is brought to you by Rubber Cheese, a digital agency that builds remarkable systems and websites for attractions that helps them increase their visitor numbers. Your host is  Kelly Molson, MD of Rubber Cheese.Download our free ebook The Ultimate Guide to Doubling Your Visitor NumbersIf you like what you hear, you can subscribe on iTunes, Spotify, and all the usual channels by searching Skip the Queue or visit our website rubbercheese.com/podcastIf you've enjoyed this podcast, please leave us a five star review, it really helps others find us. And remember to follow us on Twitter for your chance to win the books that have been mentioned in this episode.Competition ends August  27th 2021. The winner will be contacted via Twitter.Show references:www.linkedin.com/in/jamesrpenfoldwww.itv.com/imacelebrityjunglechallengewww.itv.com/coronationstreettourhttps://village.emmerdalestudioexperience.co.uk James PenfoldJames is the Controller of Partnerships over at ITV and the name behind some of the prolific IP attraction, tour experiences and event ventures – including Coronation Street The Tour, Emmerdale Village Tour and the brand new (for 2021) I’m A Celebrity… Jungle Challenge. James has garnered an indisputable reputation during his 20+ year career at the forefront of leading British media and entertainment branded content formats. An instrumental and respected figure within the industry, James has directly influenced some of the most pioneering live events, UK visitor attractions and big-brand agency collaborations of recent times. His strategic vision, creative energy and unequivocal commercial drive has captured the essence of Intellectual Property (IP) immersive content as he continues to push the boundaries with trailblazing concepts for the biggest players within the media landscape today. With business development disciplines stretching across mergers and acquisitions, brand licencing, IP visitor attractions and participation services, cross platform content distribution, media strategy and commercial partnerships, James has carved out an illustrious career when it comes to brand experiential.Now, a distinguished and well-networked figurehead for immersive experiences and visitor attractions, James’ name is associated with new-format arena tours, big-brand visitor experiences, digital cinema trials, TV channel launches and live entertainment events.  Transcription:Kelly Molson: Welcome to Skip the Queue, a podcast for people working in or working with visitor attractions. I'm your host, Kelly Molson. Each episode, I speak with industry experts from the attractions world. In today's episode, I speak with James Penfold, Controller of Partnerships at ITV, the name behind prolific tour experiences including Coronation Street The Tour, and Emmerdale Village Tour. We discuss translating big brand IPs into commercial ventures, what the most successful formats are, and the brand new I'm A Celebrity Jungle Challenge, opening later this year.If you like what you hear, you can subscribe on iTunes, Spotify and all the usual channels by searching Skip the Queue.Kelly Molson: Thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. It's such a pleasure to see you again.James Penfold: Thank you. It's great to see you today.Kelly Molson: Well, I mean, you say that now, you might not say that after the questions that I'm about to ask you.James Penfold: No, no. Listen, I'm a regular listener and I don't know what's going to be thrown at me, so yeah, I've taken my Xanax and I'm ready.Kelly Molson: I had a lot of fun putting these together. I've gone for a theme. You might notice what the theme is. Okay, let's begin. Would you rather eat a fish eye or drink blended fermented duck eggs?James Penfold: The duck eggs, definitely.Kelly Molson: Oh, really? You'd go for the duck eggs? But the smell though?James Penfold: Yeah. But that's the eye thing, and I always say, the eyeballs or anything, it's that kind of crunch moment, I suppose. Mind you, a fish eye is quite small, isn't it? I was kind of thinking ... Yeah, no, I'll have to stick with my answer, sadly.Kelly Molson: All right. Blended duck eggs, okay. I was not expecting that. Right, who's funnier; Ant or Dec?James Penfold: Oh my god. Well, listen, I love them both, but it's got to be Dec.Kelly Molson: I agree, but then I had a bit of a crush on Dec when I was younger, so he's always been my fave.James Penfold: Yeah, I'm not going to say who my crush is with, but they're both lovely.Kelly Molson: Maybe we'll find out later when you've relaxed a little bit. If you could be any Coronation Street character, who would you be?James Penfold: William Roach. Ken Barlow. Because who doesn't want to work for 40, 50 years in the industry and get so many great storylines?Kelly Molson: He's been a bit of rogue as well though, hasn't he?James Penfold: Absolutely.Kelly Molson: He's been a hit with the ladies.James Penfold: Completely. And a returning hit with the ladies. And he gets great one-liners, he's been involved in amazingly iconic plots. So whenever I ask colleagues within the industry, if any actor can have anything, it's longevity within the industry, isn't it? So yeah, I'll go that road.Kelly Molson: Great. Thank you for answering those. Right, tell me what your unpopular opinion is?James Penfold: My unpopular opinion? Well, let's just say that this is formed off the back of a big reunion. It was controversial, certainly then at the time, certainly on the trips, it was simply that the live recording of any single is 99% of the time not as good as the single recorded in the studio. And obviously, I used to say things like, "Well it's not as good as in the studio," and yeah, it didn't go down that well.Kelly Molson: I think you're probably right though, aren't you?James Penfold: Yeah. I mean Adam Rickitt took it personally, but I think we'd all have to agree. I Breath Again, sitting in the fish tank, needs to be done in the studio.Kelly Molson: I cannot wait to talk to you about this. So James and I had a kind of pre-interview chat a few weeks ago, and I did share my huge love ... I mean, who doesn't love Ant and Dec really? I mean, maybe that will come up as someone's unpopular opinion some day, that they detest them. But I've been such a massive fan, I kind of grew up with them over the years as well, and when they came back a few years ago and brought out Ready to Rumble again, I lost my shit watching that episode. I can remember my friends texting me, it was like, "What is happening? This is amazing." And then for that to kind of expand into the whole big reunion thing was just phenomenal. But we will come to that.Kelly Molson: James, at the moment, you're Controller of Partnerships at ITV, which sounds like a very grand title. What about your background? How did you get to where you are today, and what big highlights have you had in your career?James Penfold: So, like anyone, I think career is all about a bit of a zigzag. Not many people go straight to the end role they hope to achieve. So, left school not knowing at all what I wanted to do, always absolutely loved television. I mean, was an avid fan of Multi-Coloured Swap Shop every Saturday morning. But how did I, therefore, end up in a BT technical apprenticeship at the age of 16, having just done the first year of GCSEs? So we were kind of guinea pigs on that front. Ageing myself here. But BT ran an amazing classic apprenticeship scheme. Three years, going across, two months at a time, every facet in the business. So you could be on estates one week, you'd be on customer residential services and installations, you'd be on externals, so working in the man-holes and those sorts of things and learning about that aspect, marketing, sales, customer service in the sense of operator services. It was a great induction, and all the while being able to go on block release, again, doesn't happen very often, paid for by the company during the day, three months at a time, to colleges and that to get a technical qualification. And then I was very grateful when they offered me, "Did I want to go to university and do a degree?"James Penfold: So I do those three years later than most, probably, at 21 rather than 18. But that meant that I was absolutely ready for it, I knew what I wanted to do, I loved commerce and commercial and the marketing sales. And so I went to Birmingham University, studied B-Comm there, Bachelor of Commerce. Again, coming back into BT in the summer holidays. The internet was just kicking off and so I was fortunate enough to have the choice of, "Which division do you want to go back to in those holidays?" And I went into a division that was just a startup division called the Internet and Multimedia Services. That was actually the precursor days of BT becoming an internet service provider, it was all about the narrow band, but we quickly learned, or the company quickly learned, like everyone, that whether you're an AOL operator or anybody else, that once the people had logged on, what were they going to go to? Because it was the early days of search engines. There wasn't a great lot of content.James Penfold: So I just opted to be a content development manager, which was basically business classic, business development. So looking to acquire content fees. So, in the day, you'd go to BT's various partners and obviously think to what you personally liked, whether it was Top of the Pops, the music, Bloomberg for financial services, and you'd pick off these various brands and go and do deals to acquire that. That moved into broadband services, then worked on a number of trials that were pioneering, I suppose, towards all the things we use now. Multimedia payphones. So they were a whole trial of payphones across Cardiff and Central London for people coming when not many people had email, and certainly, not many people had laptops at home and computers at home, but they did want to be able to send email messages or check their messages when they were between stations or travelling between offices.James Penfold: And then the early precursor to BT TV, which was an ADSL trial, so again using copper wire to send TV signals down it. Well, again, where's the content there. So I was lucky enough to ... again, all hands to the pump really when you're launching these trials, so I opted to talk to the music companies. So EMI, Sony BMG, [inaudible 00:07:33], to provide a variety of content to prove. And then we were really just looking to the customer to say what they wanted. These were only closed user group trials, two or three thousand people in Ipswich and those sorts of things.James Penfold: My boss then got snapped up by Sky. Sky was really taking off as a digital satellite broadcaster, and that inherently launched something called Interactive Services, or the Red Button services, which many of us might have used. He stayed very briefly at Sky, I should say, because he didn't get famously on with James Murdoch, but quickly learned that there was a real desire with multi-choice TV. The reason we had those 200, 300 channels, it's obviously refined itself now as technology has moved on, there are other ways of accessing content. But we settled on a company called the Interactive TV Group. I'm fortunate for Adam Faith, the singer, he'd set up a financial TV group based out of Wapping. Sadly, three weeks into operating that, he passed away. But the facility was available, and my then boss at the time, John [inaudible 00:08:37], picked it up at an absolute song, and we went in. And he'd reformed a team from people he'd worked with at BT and Sky to become an Interactive TV Group, so launching TV channels for other parties here in the UK, and some further afield.James Penfold: I was a business development manager at first, looking after studio facilities and winning clients to use those. And then also looking then into interactive services, which is, again, taking back, I suppose, the internet skillsets, some red buttons. We used to provide those red button services. If Sky didn't develop them for you and do all the coding and the content, then probably the Interactive TV Group did at the time. So BBC, all the Children In Need apps, the multi-screen sports, the Glastonbury multi-screen sports. Not all of it was just developed in-house at the BBC.James Penfold: That took me then to a company called Interaction TV because brands and branded content was becoming very much niche, but certainly a fad at the time, and obviously it's come back in many facets now. I was a commercial director at that company for about four years, which took me to 10, 11 years ago when a colleague, and now my boss, William Van Rest who had joined ITV, picked up the phone and said, "Do you want to come in for a conversation?" And I was lucky enough to literally join ITV.James Penfold: So, probably 20 years after starting my career, always having wanted to work in television, never thinking, "What's my route to being that?" Sadly I'm never going to be in front of a camera, not while Ant and Dec are around and other greats on like that. And there the role, it wasn't defined, which is always, again, a great opportunity where I thrive from. It was about classic business development or sales, looking at what the opportunities are, "Where aren't we making use of the assets that ITV might have?" ITV was absolutely just coming off the back of a transformation where the regions, all the various regions, Granada, HTV, Meridian, London Carbon, LWT, were all combining in to become under one brand for once.James Penfold: And so that journey began. And the team at first was called Brand Extension, which I think was really simple, did what it said on the tin, which was literally, if there's a brand that would have intellectual property that ITV has, owns or makes, what could we be doing with it that isn't the core show itself? And that took me into actually working with all the producers who make all of our shows, whether they're in-house or in the ITV Studios group or third parties, to see where there are opportunities. And often there aren't, but every now and again you strike lucky and there is.Kelly Molson: That's such a crazy path to get to where you really wanted to get to. I love hearing how people have got there. And that must be such an exciting thing to do, to have that opportunity to say, "We have this amazing brand that people love; what more do we do with it? How do we make that even more immersive for people? How do we build this into an experience?" What a fantastic role.James Penfold: Yeah, no, I mean I'm one of a great team, and it's been and is an incredible train set to play with. And you don't take any opportunity for granted, and the show must come first, and absolutely respect the IP in that sense. But sometimes it's not always necessarily the show itself, but there's something that happens off the back of that show. Or you feel, "Right, okay, a tour is warranted off the back of this." Whether that's a theatrical tour, whether it's an arena tour, whether there's obviously a set tour opportunity as we change buildings that we own and opportunities present themselves. Or, increasingly now, again with colleagues, the whole app generation, and games and gaming, and the natural brand extension that you might have to the very successful quiz shows that we produce.Kelly Molson: Well, this is one of my first questions really, because essentially, breaking down what you do is you translate big brand IPs into commercial ventures. So it's taking something and making it more than just a TV show.James Penfold: Yeah.Kelly Molson: What qualities does a brand need to have for it to succeed beyond the telly? What are you looking for?James Penfold: Let's see. It helps if it's got a super fan base. I mean, there is always one ... not one rule, something that we certainly began to find over the years. Again, because ITV's been around for 65 years, and it's a commercial broadcaster, but really this notion of brand extension beyond just simple merchandising is something that's only probably looked at in the last 10, 12 years. A super fan base is great. A show that's certainly finding its feet, so second, the third series, so you don't jump at the opportunity too quickly. That's not always the rule, and I'll come back to the big reunion. Broad appeal, longevity, again, that helps because you've got the fan base and it's really aligned itself with that fan base, viewer engagement. Repeatability is obviously a great commercial opportunity because one-offs tend to be expensive, and that's again a very good learning point. And sometimes we do things that are more celebratory about a show, and they're commercial, but ultimately they've not got the rerun factor or the repeat factor.James Penfold: And then a decent amount of context. I think that's another important thing. So with context, that could be timing in the sense of an anniversary. A talent anniversary, a show anniversary, or related events, so a season in the year where it's just summer festivals, or even just like the exhibitions field where certain things happen in spring and Easter and you think, "Do you know, God, that really resonates with what we do as a show?" And that was a really good example when we took This Morning to the NEC for three years running because as a show it lends itself, it is live, it lends itself to an audience. And you think of nature as a news and consumer affairs show, if you think of what the subject matter is, the broad base of it all, then God, you don't even need to think what the floor plan of the exhibition is, and you don't even really need to change from what people already do for exhibitions. You're just layering our IP onto it. So that's an easy one.Kelly Molson: Some of the things we're talking about today are what you're involved in terms of TV shows and real-life visitor experience. So we've got Coronation Street The Tour, we've got the Emmerdale Village Tour, and again, we'll mention the Big Reunion, there's been various tours and live experiences that have spun out of existing TV shows as well. But then you've also got something brand new that's launching this year, which I'm not going to mention just yet, we're going to keep the suspense, we'll talk about that a little bit later. What are the most successful formats that you find translate from the telly to real-life experiences?James Penfold: So I suppose the obvious ones, and this isn't unique to ITV, but certainly, it's about Mass Market big entertainment, stuff that appeals to the broadest audience; so with Syco and Fremantle, X Factor was an obvious tour in its day, at the height of unknown people becoming music talents, celebrities, recording artists, and then going on tour. You have it with the BBC, and they still do it with Strictly. With ourselves again, BGT, Britain's Got Talent, absolutely lends itself to scalability, and scalability leads to commercial success, and it leads itself to repetition. But everything has a life cycle.James Penfold: For ourselves, purely on your own, Saturday Night Takeaway. I've talked about anniversaries; Ant and Dec. What are we? Five or six years ago now it was their 20th anniversary in the industry, they wanted to do something, we'd actually spotted the opportunity; why are Ant and Dec not on tour? Well, there are many reasons. They're very busy and not everybody wants to be on tour the whole time. But the Saturday Night Takeaway show, it's just mass-market entertainment, and it's a show that's so professionally produced that when it airs as a live TV show if you arrived as an audience member, you don't have to arrive hours and hours and hours beforehand. You're slotted into your seats. There might be a few hits done to record some interim piece, some inter-show pieces that play out in the ads or links to that, but then you're straight onto the show. And the 90 minutes you see in the TV audience is the 90 minutes you get at home. God, if you're in that audience, there's a live buzz to it. So, taking that to an arena tour, 30 dates, matinees and evenings, 15, 16 days with the boys on tour around the country, absolutely lent itself. And hats off to colleagues in my team who helped to deliver that. The production company, ITV Entertainment and ITV Studios Entertainment, and of course working with Live Nation as a promoter. So there’s a great marry of partnerships.James Penfold: Big Reunion, again, that's the one, I would say, where it didn't need to be into its 10th series, it didn't need to be coming back like Saturday Night Takeaway was doing after a bit of a hiatus. That was, "Okay, it's been certainly 10 years since we've seen a lot of these acts in arenas or in larger-scale theatres. What have they gone on to do?" Michael Kelpie and Potato, one of the ITV labels, had had success with bringing back Steps for Sky, and they've made that format. I've looked at that format and there was an obvious journey there. And then it was, "Okay, how does ITV do that?" Well, we do it on the scale, so why bring back just one band? Why not let's bring back five every series? And we did two series because basically, there were about 15 real acts that when we thought about it and looked at chart successes and also their back story, what they've gone on to do and where they all are now, we didn't even have to air the first episode. And Twitter was really a thing by then and it was like, "Well, obviously there's going to be a tour." I can assure you there wasn't going to be a tour.Kelly Molson: Oh, so the public requested that? It wasn't the plan to start with?James Penfold: Well, there was a kind of concept. When you work with that many artists and that much talent and its confusing schedules, you think, "Okay, this could lend itself to be but let's be ready, waiting in the wings," but consumer demand, instant feedback. And then, by picking the right partnerships, you've got to be able to move quickly on those sorts of opportunities. And they don't often come along in that way.Kelly Molson: Yeah, it's fabulous. I mean, that show, for me, was really like reliving my childhood, because I'm of a certain age.James Penfold: Much younger than me.Kelly Molson: Thank you. I doubt that very much though. But I was into a lot of those bands at the time, on some level, and it just brilliant watching what they'd gone on and done, and then trying to get them back into shape to do the routines and stuff. It was so funny and so interesting.James Penfold: Kelly, I'm in the exact same situation as you. Don't think I'm not. As somebody in an 18-year-old apprenticeship, or working in and around Soho as I did, because that was where my apprenticeship was based, it was based in the West End of London, love pop music; if you'd ever said you'd then be working with those individuals, sitting on a couch, sometimes on short journeys, sometimes on long journeys, and sometimes in the craziest situations. Well, the show was playing itself out, and of course, the stories were, and then we were getting to take them on tour at the time. So yeah, no, you don't get many opportunities like that, and I'm ever so grateful.Kelly Molson: Fantastic experience for you. So, with the TV, what's interesting is you've obviously got a captive audience with the TV, and it was really interesting to hear how that audience demand kind of spurred ... there was obviously a little idea about the tour, but it really spurred it. How do you strike that balance between developing products to reach new audiences? How do you get that right?James Penfold: So I think, importantly for us, and this is done by trial by error, is you've got to, I suppose, look at does it feel right? Is it a natural extension for us, ITV, to be taking? Because we're not a theme park operator, we don't do reparatory theatre, those sorts of things, and there are other parties out there. And one of the principal roles, I suppose what my role's evolved into now, is looking at the licensing side, where there are many entities who might choose to look at something from a slightly less obvious position and take the thought.James Penfold: But from our perspective, it's really looking at ratings, it's looking at social media and how that talent engages with their audience. Do they engage with their audience? Don't they? Are there natural wins? Because of course, people can always involve them and move their careers forward. A really good example is Gino D'Acampo. So I think we did three tours with him. So Gino, incredible talent, was iconic from his season when he was on I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, he was obviously becoming a prominent TV chef, he was on This Morning pretty much every week or every other week. And then he starts getting his own show, and that's the test for the commissioners. They're almost like a litmus test; they spot these opportunities and take some of the pain out of it for us. And it was Gino ... I think was Italian Escapes, and that was where he'd go to a different part of Italy.James Penfold: And then we were talking again to a promoter, I think it was clean and Gyro, could he live, who also looked at Ed Sheeran, so talk about different ends of the spectrum for them. And they were talking about theatre shows and the successes they have, and they'd said, "Would Gino be interested?" And there was a quick conversation to be had, "If the talents are interested, then great." Of course, he was. And for him, it suits his purpose, because there he is, having done I'm a Celebrity, having done some TV chef shows, having done This Morning, and now with his own Italian Escapes, but what does he actually stand for? And he wants to evolve his career and put himself differently. So I'd like to think three sellout tours in theatres, 1500, 2000 seats a night, which we were told we were doing well at because we're doing 14 nights a run. And it wasn't just Gino who goes on stage and cooks, because that would have been obvious. It's Gino who goes on stage and does what he does best, which is to engage with the audience. The cooking almost becomes auxiliary to the evening.James Penfold: And then, quickly really, we learned that the audience ... it becomes almost a 50/50 divide. 50% of them were there because they wanted some cooking advice or to hear his anecdotes about Italian Escapes and what it's like to be on the road and cooking the food of his homeland, and 50%, of course, enjoy him because he was suddenly an overnight success in Celebrity Juice. And that audience wanted quite a different thing. And of course, Gino being Gino, he would play to the Celebrity Juice audience, and it made for an unpredictable but incredibly entertaining show. The first tour, it was fairly locked down in what they produced and what it would be and what the format would be. Number two and three, "You go for it. You know what you want to do. As long as you pitch it correctly to the audience as to what they're going to be getting," so Live and Unplugged was tour number two, "Then you've got success."James Penfold: Another good example is, I suppose, This Morning Live. So there we'd been approached by Media 10, the guys who deliver Grand Designs and the Ideal Home Show for a number of years. In fact, for probably nearly about eight or nine years. And they hit us when it was right to have a conversation, because I'd thought, "This is madness?" I'd be challenged; "Why aren't we doing festivals? Why isn't ITV more involved with festivals?" Because you had the Good Food Program for the BBC, you had The Clothes Show historically being such a success.Kelly Molson: Yeah, it is.James Penfold: And in truth, we have always been very successful in the daytime, and I think with This Morning, it was really ... well, we looked at all the shows, so Good Morning Britain, Lorraine, This Morning, and Loose Women, and could you take them all on the road, and would there be an exhibition? And then you start getting into the realities of cost, of logistics, of actually the quite disparate audiences that do come across those four different shows and what they want to engage with. And we quickly settled on This Morning, and then just simply This Morning Live, in that it has cooking in it, it has health issues, it does fashion, it does entertainment. And ultimately, at the heart of it are Phil and Holly, or Eamonn and Ruth at the time. And we learned very quickly that we were taking the show on the road whilst we had a replacement presenter team in London. So you'd have Phil and Holly in Birmingham and Eamonn and Ruth in the studio, or vice versa. They'd hand to each other. Great segments of the show were able to be done from the NEC.James Penfold: Yes, there were costs involved, but to us, that was more of a marketing vehicle. It worked really well for Media 10, because they absolutely know how to deliver a live exhibition. And from a Stand's perspective, and from all those consumer brands that want to sell to our audiences who would normally take advertising slots in those shows anyway, it was a no brainer for them to want to attend. And it was on for four days a week every year, 40 to 50,000 people attending over those four days.James Penfold: And then you get into the great hurdles of, "Oh my God, it's almost too successful in terms of capacities." And fans being more than just, I suppose, the typical ticket buyer and visitor. Everyone wants to meet the talent. And so meet and greets, I think that became a whole performance item in itself.Kelly Molson: So, a huge success. You can see that the formats work, you've got huge engagement from people, and then a global pandemic comes along and kind of smashes us all in the face. I mean, it's affected obviously your plans and things that you've got in fruition quite extensively; how has it affected you and how have you tried to overcome some of those challenges this year?James Penfold: Yeah. So if we look back to this time this year, or actually go back a further two, three weeks, when the UK government was still slightly in denial of the nature of this pandemic-Kelly Molson: I think we all were, weren't we? Because I think we were watching the news going, "Oh, it's all happening in Italy, isn't it? Oh yeah, that looks bad."James Penfold: Yes, the broad public were, but don't forget, ITV is a stakeholder in ITN, so we produce Channel Four News, Channel Five News and ITN News, the three variants, different editorial flavours. So I don't think you could avoid it from that point of view. And I'm based in Gray's Inn Road. Well, I was based in Gray's Inn Road, which is where the news studios are, so I think there was a real feeling there, most importantly about just hand sanitisers introducing themselves.James Penfold: But the thing came to was three weeks out of not even lockdown, us beginning to talk about it, so probably we're talking the back end of February. I was approached by my then division director to say, "At a board level, we think we need to curtail or stop set tours." So the set tours of Coronation Street and the Emmerdale Village Tour. Both were external sets, although there were some interiors to be seen, as in interior sets on the Coronation Street set. And that is principal because, first and foremost, we're a broadcaster and a producer of content, a producer of successful TV shows. These serial dramas have been going last year, 60 years for Corrie, and this year we're celebrating 45 years for Emmerdale.James Penfold: And so hearts and minds, which is a phrase that's very well known now within the business, is looking after staff wellbeing. And staff wellbeing is, therefore, the actors, the talent, all the production staff, all those many people that come on board. So, quickly the sets began to lockdown, and a wrapper was put around the productions to enable them to come on production for as long as they could. That wasn't feasible from the moment the national lockdown happened, and we had to then wait and work with health and safety committees and other people, and with the government, to work out what the safe way through production was.James Penfold: So from my perspective, it was, "Please turn off tours." And we were just starting the season. And we had loads of pre-bookings across Emmerdale, and we had loads of booking across Coronation Street. And of course, we'd just recruited our seasonal workers in the sense of our tour guides for that year, many who come back each year and have other roles when the tours aren't operated at weekends. So I think it was straight away onto the phones with Emmerdale, our partner, Continuum Group, Continuum Attractions, who will work with on many tours and attractions. And obviously, from their perspective, there was a quite rightful debate, "Are we jumping the gun and doing this too soon?" Because they weren't seeing that advice in the tourism market for their attractions. But ours was, "No, this is what we need to do." And we didn't want to let consumers down at the last minute, because with Corrie certainly, people travel quite a distance across the country to come to those weekends. They book hotels in advance, they book transport in advance, and so then it really is about you're just going into a situation of customer management.James Penfold: So there it was a case of, "Listen, sorry, we need to cancel down tours. Obviously, refunds were immediately available if you wanted them, or you can basically move to hold a voucher and we'll contact you as soon as." So that's a complete curtailment of that business, and it became then a reality that even with unlock-down, lockdown, over the backend of summer, that again the situation was even just worse. Think of where we are now in winter. So autumn and the end of summer last year, everyone was feeling great in the UK, and around most of the world. Some had fitted in summer holidays or done stay-cations and things like this. So again, from a consumer point of view, it's all about proactively managing the comms to them.James Penfold: But at the same time, for us, because we don't have a lot to say on this because we're not a true classic digital attraction, just enough communication where you're engaging, giving the consumers what they need to know. Of course, at all opportunities, offering refunds. When we began to realise, "Do you know what? We aren't going to be opening these in autumn, because if anything the pandemic's getting worse," and this was even before new variants, it was, "Okay, well we hope to be able to bring this back in in 2021." That's a realisation now that probably that isn't even a reality. And of course, it's incredibly disappointing to the team. Thank God in the early days, when the furlough opportunity was there, we absolutely used it. From a customer point of view, social media, thank God we've got decent outlets to be able to contact customers. And from being a broadcaster with viewer services, we were able to really talk about it's a business for them to help us to get in contact with as many consumers as possible.James Penfold: And even now it's a difficult one because we look to the advice from ALVA, we keep across Blooloop, we listen to your podcast, we talk to experts, we're talking with Continuum every day, and we have health and safety advisers from the tourist market as well. But from a set tours point of view, it just isn't realistic. There is nobody in any of our offices, we all work remotely. All the editing of the shows is pretty much done remotely, incredibly. In the early days of the pandemic, every show was produced remotely. The galleries all became laptops, so editors and directors were sitting at home. And the two teams that make the soaps have done an incredible job of creating cohorts where nobody overlaps, you're in your cohort group, and you move through, based on your plotline, through those cohorts so that you always stay safe. And then you have the people who go on sets, their costumes are already hung out for them, and their makeup they do themselves.James Penfold: And so I suppose the thought on the ITV Studios drama and production side, the thought of even entertaining us being able to welcome the members of the public onto those sets currently is still untenable. So the good news is very exciting plans for next year. What this has given, I suppose, the pandemic, let me come to the positives, is it's given us a time to reflect. We were very lucky six years ago when the old set became available, Coronation Street. The Granada building was sold quite quickly after 55 years of ownership by ITV. It would have just been quickly demolished, but I was like, "No, that can't happen. Let's think about this."Kelly Molson: Sacrilege.James Penfold: Yeah. Well, and also, to the developer who bought it, "When do you need the building by? You've got planning to do, you've got plans to put into council; when do you need it by?" "We need it probably in about 24 months time." So for 18 months, we were able to open that set, and 900,000 people came through that set tour in that period of time. And that's a success. And that felt completely natural.James Penfold: But now when we're working in a different environment, we're part of a living breathing production, a production community, so we're looking at it from a filming perspective and from that visitor perspective. The exciting thing is we are able to look at now how do we make the tours more accessible? Is there technology that can almost enhance them? We've worked with groups like Antenna. We've long resisted audio guides because we love the interpersonal nature of the tour guide, but actually, if you think of the amount of content and archive and things like that, it can actually bring sets to life, and everybody's got a different character they like on those shows, and different memory of the storylines. Some people like the '60s, the '70s, the '80s. Some people remember Emmerdale, and I'm going to say ITV sacrilege when it was called Emmerdale Farm. And so there are those angles to it. And it's given us time to reflect.James Penfold: Completely exclusive to you, where we're building a new building next to Coronation Street in Manchester. The pilings underway. The intention is to have it open by next Easter. What's it going to serve? It's multifaceted because it addresses multiple problems. The scriptwriters and there are about 200 in Corrie, normally meet in hotels and go to conference centres to marry all the plot lines together and to do the timelines. Again, with the cast, with all the principal production team, they'll now be able to haggle on the top floor of this almost event space building. The middle floor will have an exhibition space, which will be used by us from a Coronation Street perspective. And the ground floor will have a 70 seat theatre for those, like me, who believe that people will come back in some form to a similar environment. And we'll have a café and we'll have a retail outlet.James Penfold: So I'm going to call it a visitor reception area, as opposed to them just meeting somewhere in Media City and then we walk them over to the set and take them on the set there. That will allow us to be seven days a week from an experience point of view as people engage with the brand. It really plays for Peel, the landowner of Media City, because there's a brand new tramline that opened ... it was pretty much all whilst we've been in lockdown, that serves the Trafford side of Manchester and is a much faster link into Manchester. There's a stop right by ourselves and the Imperial War Museum, so there'll be that stop. There'll be a café there that which I say will provide to. So that's playing to an opportunity, that if we'd not had the pandemic, would have taken quite a lot longer because we've been able to do stuff when the set's been closed, when the filming hasn't happened, and it's a great positive.James Penfold: Something similar is happening with the village for Emmerdale for hopefully the backend of 2022 so that we can get more people into the village and really celebrate the sets and do Q and As and audience with cast and things like that. So yeah, so positives.Kelly Molson: Oh, I love that you've come on and dropped a few little exclusives for us, James. Thank you for sharing that. I mean, many of our listeners are in the attractions world, and they will be completely sympathising with the situation you've been in terms of having to shut down the sets, but it's such a different challenge that you have. I mean, the attractions now, they're planning for their reopening in May time, and are incredibly excited about that and what that looks like, that roadmap. But your roadmap is so much longer because of the logistics of filming, and I hadn't really taken that into consideration at all, how difficult that would be because obviously, you can't have the general public on the sets when you've got to protect the people that are on the sets recording each day. It's a huge challenge.James Penfold: I mean, they're such substantial principle revenue streams, and the most important audience drivers for ITV. The soaps still regularly get between six and eight million, depending on where we are in the storylines, five days a week. And that's incredible in the streaming platform and non-linear broadcast era that we all live within.James Penfold: That said, colleagues within my team who look after our Ninja Warrior brand, in lockdown we started last year with eight licensees and eight sites. By the time we get to the backend of summer, there will be 15 sites, because people are proactively taking and opening sites because they've seen properties becoming available. Previous guests of yours have talked about the nature of retail and leisure finally beginning to merge, which we haven't seen in the UK. It's been prevalent in Asia, very strong in the USA, and to some extent mainland Europe. But that's created a real opportunity. And so there's a real opportunity in that, and obviously those, they're nothing to do with show production, and so they can open, as you're talking about, with these May time scales, and I hope they go on to have really successful years. And whatever sort of restrictions we have in 2021, let's hope 2022 then gives them a full run.Kelly Molson: Yeah. And there's going to be a huge resurgence in people wanting to do things. We're all desperate to get back out and have new experiences because we've been stuck between our four walls for so long. But this brings me to something very exciting, which is the I'm A Celebrity Jungle Challenge. Is it opening this year? Maybe this year? Who knows at the moment? Tell us a little bit about it.James Penfold: I can tell you that based on current government guidelines and what we know of the roadmap, we're absolutely opening this summer. I mean, for me it's very exciting. It's the fruition of a three-year project in a sense, from talking with Peel Holdings, the landowner, to then working with various design companies and settling with Scruffy Dog Productions, and then the exciting part, which we started right back at the start of this podcast, working with the producers of the show. And Richard Cowles, Tom Gould and that ITV entertainment team are genius. I'm A Celebrity is his format, Saturday Night Takeaway is his co-format, Love Island is his format. That team know how to do live programming. And being able to look under the bonnet of what is the essence of I'm A Celebrity if we were going to make it an attraction, has been really exciting.James Penfold: So yeah, Media City, or Quayside Media City I should say, what was the Lowry Outlet, will be opening this summer.Kelly Molson: Oh, I'm so excited. You know, the team, we've already started planning that we'll come and do it as one of our Christmas do adventures because our Christmas do is always a thing. We go and have an experience somewhere. We went and did the Crystal Maze challenge, and then we'll go for dinner and drinks and stuff. And as soon as I mentioned this, they were like, "That's it. That's the Christmas do."James Penfold: I know, Kelly, I need you there soon. We need those guinea pigs for early summer, so I'll be calling you up.Kelly Molson: All right, we'll bring our Christmas to do forward. That's right, we missed out on one last year, so we'll be there.James Penfold: There are no restrictions on tinsel, so you're welcome.Kelly Molson: Fabulous, because I do love a bit of tinsel. Has COVID changed how you will deliver that visitor experience for that attraction, though? Because I think one of the things that we've been talking about quite a lot with attractions are actually some of the positives, of the visitor experience is better when the capacity has been reduced. So, for example, you want to go and visit the Mona Lisa. Well, on a normal day, if you go and visit the Mona Lisa, there are thousands of people that are doing it with you at the same time, and so that experience is just not what you might have hoped for. But actually, if you did it ... well, not now, but when they're open and you've got that reduced capacity, it's a nicer experience. It's more engaging for you. Maybe people will pay a slightly higher price for that as well. So how has that changed how you open and your strategy?James Penfold: So, obviously, when you design any of these attractions, and again, we work with good partners, and we're not experts. We hold people to flame as to how we want it to look and we want it to be delivered 100% to be true to the format, but you've designed it for this sort of flow, for this capacity, and people use it in this manner. And of course, only when we start getting to the customer testing, which we're pretty much just approaching now, will we see how that happens. Now we layer on the COVID factor, and the COVID factor is exactly what you've said. Probably a little more time in that attraction, yes, reviewing the price for that, but the capacity is being reduced, but then the experience is so much better. I think also all leisure attractions are getting price-sensitive, but I do think, and I hope when you see it ... the layering over the IP of the Jungle Challenge, and whether it's the thematic, and even a safety video from Ant and Dec, through to the gameplay we've put on what would traditionally be a rope and swinging course and a bit of Ninja Warrior in the middle, really does bring value to it. So I think we've got to, and we are, reviewing what that customer experience is.James Penfold: Similarly, on the tours side of things, it's absolutely about capacity. Less people maybe in tour groups, certainly fast-tracking this notion of pre-flow that colleagues have had, which is, "Okay, tour guides are wonderful and they give the as scripted and in the tone of a show version of events," but we know, especially as we look to the younger audiences, that it absolutely is all about the selfie moment, the racing to the bit of the set that you know most. Again, I mentioned characters earlier, so we've got to look at that. And then that looks at, "Okay, well how do we then convey some of the knowledge and depth and years of plot lines, characters, and why things look the way they do? Why the houses aren't as big as real houses would be and all those sorts of things." Then we're looking at the audio guide, or certainly the interactive guide, and how smartphones, that again really have got pretty much mass market penetration now across all age brackets, how we can use those.James Penfold: I think last week somebody raised a really ... so the podcast that aired last week, and I can't recall the chap's name, but oh my God, never did I think we'd be looking back at QR codes. And-Kelly Molson: QR codes; 2020 was the year of the resurgence for them. Who knew that was going to happen?James Penfold: Absolutely. It's like the spectrum of tourism, it's suddenly back.Kelly Molson: I was going to say Atari, but that would super age me.James Penfold: Yeah, no, that was 10 years before me.Kelly Molson: So we're coming to the end of the podcast, but one more question to ask you. But can you let us know what kind of things that we might find in this new attraction? Are there going to be any disgusting eating challenges? Because I feel like that is up there with what people really want to do.James Penfold: Listen, I'm A Celebrity just had its 20th season, even in an amazing cast in Wales, did record audiences, and I know we've got pandemic viewers and that people can't go out, and there are many facets to the show. And so I think this is the first iteration of what you're going to see and what we'd like to do with the I'm A Celebrity brand, working with not just property partners, but also with operator partners that we're currently engaged with. This one is all about the Jungle Challenge and getting stars because, at the heart of the show, you get those stars, and it is for the more physical aspects of it. So you've got to climb 15-meter rock-faces, you've got to zip line across the venue, you've got to do a treetop trail that doesn't have much to support you other than the harness you're clipped to, and so that'll test your heights. There's a spy ride, if you so wish, that you can strap yourself into and travel 20 miles an hour around the rooftop. There's Escape the Jungle, which is our variant on Ninja Warrior. So we've packed a lot into this. And if you want to test, again, your test of heights, there's Leap of Faith, where you go and you jump, you hang onto a cushion for as long as you can before you drop to the ground.James Penfold: Yeah, but don't worry, you're in a safe be like.Kelly Molson: Oh, it's going to be great. I feel super excited about it already, and I'm pretty sure that a lot of our listeners will be booking up tickets as soon as they can. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing that, James.James Penfold: Pleasure.Kelly Molson: We always ask our guests for a book that they would recommend to us, and it can be anything really. I used to always ask ... it was a book that had shaped someone's career, but I think actually just a book that you really love, or one that you would just like to share with our audience would be great.James Penfold: Okey-dokey. Well, I've changed my choice as of this morning, and it's courtesy, because of course, working from home, or even when I work in the office, I've always got ITV on, playing in the background. And a book that I found absolutely charming, and not a lifesaver, but just really resonated with me in this lockdown, being single, working on my own, working on a project quite distanced with a team that's quite disparate around the country, has been The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and the Horse. Charlie Mackesy.Kelly Molson: Oh gosh.James Penfold: And it comes into mind today because I saw him over my shoulder just because we came on the call because he was on This Morning and it's being made into a movie, which is incredible. An animated movie using his beautiful artwork. And as I understand it, it's going to extend the characters and give some background to those four wonderful subjects. And I just feel, with all that's going on, whether it's headlines in the news this week on any level, whether it regards ITV or not, that you put a bit of love out there and we'll all be good, and we'll get through this storm, as he likes to put it.Kelly Molson: Oh, do you know what? That book has given me so much comfort over the years, and I'm so glad that somebody ... nobody has recommended that book yet, I'm so glad that you chose that one today because it really does sum up what we all need right now. And like I said, for me, it's been a huge comfort on many different levels, and I think it has been a huge comfort for a lot of people through the lockdown as well.James Penfold: Absolutely. And yeah, you can turn to any page of it and there's a quote or a phrase that you can draw something from it. And I think there have been many books prior to that, and I'm not going to bankrupt you as others do, so that's my book.Kelly Molson: Thank you, just the one book. Just remember, I ask for one book, people.James Penfold: Yeah guys, just listen, one book, please. That's all Kelly wants.Kelly Molson: Costs me so much money. Oh, thank you so much, that's a great recommendation. As ever, if you want to win a copy of that book, if you head over to our Twitter account and you retweet this episode announcement with the words, "I want James's book," then you will be in with a chance of winning a copy. And you should do that because it is a really lovely book. I'm so glad that there's going to be a film as well, that's really nice.James Penfold: Yeah.Kelly Molson: James, thank you.James Penfold: Can I say thank you, by the way? Because I listen to your podcast every week; fascinating insights helps all of us, and yeah, so I'm really pleased that I was invited on. Thank you.Kelly Molson: Aw, that's very kind. All of our guests have said very lovely things about the podcast and I feel super humbled by it. I actually felt really humbled that you put us in the bracket of ALVA and Blooloop there, who are phenomenal organisations that have been doing brilliant things for attractions throughout this. Thank you, James, it's been an absolute pleasure to have you today. It's been wonderful, so thank you so much for your time.James Penfold: You're very welcome, you take care.Kelly Molson: Thanks for listening to Skip the Queue. If you've enjoyed this podcast, please leave us a five-star review. It really helps others find us. And remember to follow us on Twitter for your chance to win the books that have been mentioned. Skip the Queue is brought to you by Rubber Cheese, a digital agency that builds remarkable systems and websites for attractions that helps them increase their visitor numbers. 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This midweek episode sees Ray & The Moscow Mush break down our trip to The Hawthorns - an embarrassing 3-0 loss with a lifeless performance from our backline. Just when you think our defending couldn't possibly get any shitter, they go and do something like this and totally redeem themselves! Later, Tim joins the fun for his views and prepares us for our Wembley Semi-Final against Leicester. There's also ITN News, in which they discuss sponsorship, B-team woes and the summer transfer policy, and Alex has another question for Haas Asks... In that Number Podcast - IT’S A NO-BRAINER! email: inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @NumberPodcast Instagram: inthatnumberpodcast Facebook: InThatNumberPodcast Ray Hunt - Twitter: @RayHunt84 Kevin 'Moscow Mush' Milverton - Twitter: @moscowmush Tim Bisantz - Instagram: @tbisantz Alex Haas - Instagram: @alcapwn156

In this, the triumphant return of In that Number, Ray and The Moscow Mush go over Saints' Easter resurrection at home to Burnley from two down. The ITN News is stacked with Kevin's comprehensive international round up from the past fortnight, and we announce our Player and Goal of the Month for March. Tim is welcomed back and gives us his thoughts on relegation scrapping West Brom as we prepare for our trip to The Hawthorns next Monday night. Alex gives his new question in Haas Asks, and there's plenty more in the Extra Time segment. ONE POD TO RULE THEM ALL... In That Number Podcast email: inthatnumberpodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @NumberPodcast Instagram: inthatnumberpodcast Facebook: InThatNumberPodcast Ray Hunt - Twitter: @RayHunt84 Kevin 'Moscow Mush' Milverton - Twitter: @moscowmush Tim Bisantz - Instagram: @tbisantz Alex Haas - Instagram: @alcapwn156

In this very exciting episode Sarah talks to an industry heavyweight - Andrew Montlake, Managing Director, Brand Evangelist & Spokesperson at Coreco Mortgage Brokers. Sarah & Andrew met during the last lockdown over Zoom while appearing on a podcast for Mortgage Strategy, and immediately hit it off. Both drawn to authenticity, real talk and connection; this episode is an opportunity to hear two people who might otherwise be seen as competitiors celebrating one another during Lockdown 3.0. Sarah & Andrew talk in this episode about Andrew's career history to date and the inspiring journey he has had to becoming who he is today! Topics of discussion include: - The Mortgage Market - The Credit Crunch - How to start a business during a time of crisis - The ups and downs of business ownership - The Property Industry - Andrew's new podcast - "The Property Show" with Louisa Fletcher - Mental health in the workplace - Diversity in the work place - Advice for business owners who are just starting their journey It is real, unedited conversation and we really hope you enjoy this episode! So who is Andrew Montlake (if you don't already know!)? Andrew is a Finance professional with over 25 years of industry experience, Andrew started in the mortgage industry in 1994. In 2009 Andrew was a founder of Coreco, responsible for growing the brand, marketing and communications, as well as lender liaison. He was made MD in 2019 focussing on the overall vision, strategy, and culture of the company. As Coreco's media spokesperson Andrew can often be seen or heard on TV and radio as well as regularly commenting in the national, local and trade press. He has appeared on BBC TV News, Working Lunch, BBC Radio 5 Live, Wake Up to Money, Drivetime, BBC Radio 4 Moneybox, Today Programme, Sky News, ITN News, Channel 5 News, LBC Radio Property Hour and is a regular on Clive Bulls show and Property Radio. He also regularly comments for BBC News online, The Times & Sunday Times, Financial Times, Daily Mail, This is Money, Evening Standard, The Express, The Telegraph and more. More commonly known as "Monty" he is the author of a highly acclaimed Mortgage Blog, presenter of a monthly property and mortgage podcast, public speaker, presenter, and regular industry columnist. Winner of several industry awards including “Broker Business Leader of the Year (up to 40 advisers), “Mortgage Strategist of the Year” as well as winning “Mortgage Personality of the Year” twice. He is also a double recipient of the "Best Press Spokesperson" and “Best Marketeer” gongs at the British Mortgage Awards. Andrew is now proud to serve as Chairman of the Association of Mortgage Intermediaries, (AMI) as a cheerleader for the Mortgage Industry as a whole and continues to work at the coal face, writing mortgage business and advising clients. In his spare time, he writes and performs with his rock band Rogue Monkey! You can follow Andrew on all social media platforms and find his podcast here: Twitter @montysblog Podcast @propertyshowpod https://open.spotify.com/show/5lBVpqrs5fN0czeEViPnXe?si=da7HgzjdTQG3LJQrmUOqSg AMI https://www.a-m-i.org.uk/ If you have any questions for Sarah or Andrew following this podcast please email sarah@themortgagemum.co.uk or contact Sarah on social media. Alternatively, please head over to www.themortgagemum.co.uk or contact us on social media. We would love to help you! The Mortgage Mum is a team of 20 female brokers based all across the UK. They are passionate, driven, enthusiastic women who thrive from helping customers achieve their property dreams. They educate, empower and they give an excellent service from start to finish. Follow The Mortgage Mum on all social media platforms: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/themortgagemum1 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/the_mortgage_mum/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-tucker-the-mortgage-mum-%E2%9C%A8-669898185/ YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG899KReJ9NHLZfyK3CXrUw Thank you for listening. Our beautiful intro and outro piano music was created and recorded by the incredible Zoe Alexandria - www.zoealexandria.co.uk. Please check her out on social media. She is so talented. If you would like to appear as a guest on The Mortgage Mum podcast please email sarah@themortgagemum.co.uk

This week I talk to Radha about her journey including the importance of family, studying at Cambridge and Imperial, working as a hospital doctor, a GP, teaching medical students AND everything covered below. Radha shares a bit about her own level of self-awareness, learning what she likes and doesn't like and how to continually use that to navigate a healthy and fulfilling life.  Radha has appeared as the medical reporter for The Sex Education Show Ch4 and Make My Body Younger BBC Three. She has been the resident GP for the daytime show Live with Gabby on CH5 and for Newsround CBBC. She has also reported on ITV's This Morning, BBC Breakfast, ITV Tonight, Channel 5 News and ITN News. Working across all platforms Dr Radha contributes to online projects including BBC Bitesize, BBC Teach, BBC Own It, BBC Advice Pages and BBC Learning. She has also been broadcast on BBC Radio1's daytime show, BBC Radio 4 Woman's Hour, BBC Radio 2, BBC Radio 5 Live, BBC Asian Network, LBC and Radio 1's Newsbeat. Currently writing for Top of the Pops magazine, Radha has been a columnist for the i newspaper, Woman's Own & MSN Lifestyle. She has written for Female First and Bliss magazine. She has also contributed to multiple books supporting young people & parents. She has a particular interest in young people's health & supporting parents, and has worked on campaigns with BBC Children in Need, Public Health England, MIND, British Heart Foundation, JDRF, The Mix  and the NHS Youth Forum. She has spoken at many events, including the NHS Health & Care Innovation Expo, at Camp Bestival & for the BBC Children in Need Mental Health Panel Discussion.

Tre Lowe, a London based musician, and entrepreneur.  Producer-songwriter-DJ of the award-winning band Architechs. Notable for the platinum-selling hit: Body Groove. Remixing for Usher, Justin Timberlake, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Beanie Man, Brandy & Monica, and numerous others.  Tre is also a TV music pundit, regularly appearing on ITN news. As an entrepreneur, Tre has numerous business interests, including Being a landlord and property investor, with over 20 years' experience. Also, teaching mindset and property investment strategies. Additionally, Tre runs a coaching company called Alpha Clique, specialising in success and performance coaching & consultancy.  As a long time tinnitus sufferer (ringing in the ears), Tre is a passionate wellness advocate, campaigning for tinnitus awareness worldwide. Appearing on all the major tv & radio networks, BBC News, ITV - Good Morning Britain, ITN News, BBC Radio, The Sun newspaper, and numerous others, Reaching an audience of millions with the message for people to protect their hearing.  Tre has faced numerous life challenges, especially with health. He has taken that experience and uses it to inspire and empower others. He is a mentor and coach for young people in partnership with grassroots groups. A passionate public speaker dedicated to making a difference.

Steve Hewlett talks to ITN's CEO John Hardie about his strategy to boost ITN productions and the future of ITN News. Was the Sunday Mirror's story making allegations about Keith Vaz in the public interest? We hear from Joan Smith, journalist and human rights campaigner and Evan Harris of Hacked Off about what they make of the editorial judgements behind the decision to publish. The Daily Telegraph's radio critic, Gillian Reynolds is a loyal listener to The Archers. She's gripped by the Helen Titchener storyline, but has some issues with the media frenzy and marketing of trial week. She explains why. And, Taylor Swift: what can we learn from the coverage of the latest break-up? Dan Wootton of The Sun gives us the inside story. Producer: Ruth Watts.