Podcasts about South Hill

For your Thursday, the Summer Reading Program kickoff at the Groton Public Library. Freight and Iron Horse with Louiston at the Downtown summer concert series. Ithaca Concert Band and Ageless Jazz Band at South Hill [...]

Tom Saunders and Paul used to work together at the “Bakery.” Tom was already there when Paul arrived and Paul recalled getting two pieces of sage advice from Tom about working in “Corporate America.” They reminisced and talked a lot about the people they worked with and how some were real characters! Tom has great memories of growing up in South Hill, Virginia where his dad was a doctor and he told Paul how he used to go on house calls with him. His dad had gone to the University of Richmond and Tom followed in his footsteps where he majored in political science. Paul and Tom talked about his love for sports, being a big Yankees fan and an equally as big fan of UofR Football. They discussed Tom's passion for cycling, how he has biked over 100,000 miles and he then also told him about two major cycling accidents he has had. They finished by Tom telling Paul about his wife (they're celebrating their 50 year anniversary this year), two kids and three grandkids.

Washington legislators are now considering redesigning the Washington State flag. Guest: We Heart Seattle’s Andrea Suarez on the Democrat’s leftward shift. // Big Local: Yet another juvenile has been arrested in a violent robbery in Bellevue. Armed robbers shot their way into South Hill mall and stole thousands of dollars in merchandise. The initial returns in Burien’s minimum wage initiative seem to indicate that voters are in favor of a wage hike. // The Boy Scouts are changing their name to “Scouting America.”

This episode of VHHA's Patients Come First podcast features Kaitlyn Lynch, an occupational therapist at VCU Health Community Memorial Hospital in South Hill, VA. She joins us for a conversation about her work, an experience that set her on her career path, and how her life has been linked to the hospital for years. Send questions, comments, feedback, or guest suggestions to pcfpodcast@vhha.com or contact on X (Twitter) or Instagram using the #PatientsComeFirst hashtag.

For “Silver Bullet,” The South Hill Experiment employed pitched seismometer waves and twelve-story-stairwell tracked vocals alongside their guitars to provide a sense of scale. You may not be aware of the layering you are hearing because the lyrics provide a mantra you might find yourself repeating: “I think I’m getting older/I think I’m getting over it.” And that seems to be their intention. 

Dominick D'Anna, Luke Fitzpatrick, and Morgan Spriggs breakdown and discuss the Bombers 16-7 loss to Hobart on Saturday while previewing Ithaca's conference matchup on the South Hill against Rochester next Saturday.

Bomber Radio Network Reporter Cam Manna sits down with the new offensive coordinator for the Ithaca College Football Team, Brandon Maguire, to discuss his journey to the South Hill and how the Bombers offense is shaping up for the 2024 campaign

Not gonna lie, we are HUGE fans of the LA-based band of brothers The South Hill Experiment, born at the end of 2022 and named after their studio on South Hill St. in DTLA.  For their new EPSouth Hill & Friends, the band opens up their borders to get in the sandbox with some of their friends to play with new sounds. “Little Monk” features Karriem Riggins on drums. 

This episode has everything:   Rrrryan we'll never run out of stupid middle names O'halleran, The Box (NOT a sex club run by women), Stabler meets his best friend, Sex Crimes softball, f'n Angela G fricken D Lansbury, Doctor Octavius, Bradley COOPER -nobody's safe from getting bitten by the SVU bug anymore! NOBODY!   Recap 1:01 True Crime Chaser 55:46   Patreon: Recap 2:40 True Crime Chaser 1:12:31   *TW: Rape, murder   Rate and review!  Email: svupod@gmail.com! Mail: P.O. Box 176 Deforest, WI 53532 Social Media: @svupod! Merch: ,   Facebook Group: SVU POD Elite Squad FB Group Chat: Walk and Talk Offshoot Facebook Group: Single Tomato Book Club #littlebitloud for Indie pods! Patreon: Voicemail:  +1 (920) 345-7005   Thank you to our Dedicated Detective Patrons:   Nikki M, Sophia C, Rachel S, Gloria B, Claire P, Angela D, Kelsey M, Kayla R, Sydney, Sarah H, Samantha, Heather S, Jenny M, Dana R, Shannon C, Natalie H, Akilah S, Cari, Katie M, Brittany W, Em, MaryJack, Susan C, and Victoria B     And to our Elite Squad Patrons:   Marisa M, Elke H, Tricia S, Emily T, Katarina G, Mary D, Joshua H, LEM, Eliza W, Nikki B, Kaylan B, Melanie G, Andrew, Miranda B, Lauren T, Katie A, Kate H, Vanessa, Lex, Shelby K, Bonita R, Maren, Courtney W, Ursula, Catherine M, Kate P, Jessica S, Danielle W, Jana M, Tammi J, Bear, Sam D, Nisha G, Neida M, MAC, Meg M, Casey, Abby W, Alexis J, Caitlyn S, Kristina D, Camille Z, Maggie D, Cyn, Jessica P, Zahn and Jay, Madison H, Emily O, Victoria, Scout G, Melissa M, Desiree R, Lexie Y, Drew B, Monica K, Katy S, Brenna T, Andrea M, Tash, Jenna, Al H, Andrea H, Nicky R, Aunt Sarah, Katie H, Vern, Katherine B, Aryanna, Madeline K, Mallory J, Kristin F, Samara B, DimSim, Alice D, Amanda P, Mahalia S, Jules K and Kimberly L

Welcome to South Hill, a neighborhood of wealth, secrets, gracious Victorians, and austere manor homes overlooking the port of Fairhaven and the dark waters of Bellingham Bay. Seventeen year old Trevor Blackmoore has lived here his entire life, shunned and feared, along with the rest of his clan, by the elitist and superstitious families that surround them and who regard the Blackmoores as the devil's concubines.As a young clairvoyant dealing not only with the dark secrets of his family but also with his homosexuality-two things which have made him an outsider-he struggles to find normalcy.Trevor's life is made extremely difficult by his tormentors and former childhood friends Cheri Hannifin, Greg Sheer, and Christian Vasquez; the school gods of the prestigious Mariner High School. His only saving grace is Braxton Volaverunt, a captivating young man with secrets of his own.A diabolical plan sets in motion a chain of events that will fulfill the doomed prophecy of the Blackmoore family. A centuries old curse comes to an end, releasing an ancient and bloodthirsty evil, set on wiping out the family on Trevor's eighteenth birthday, Christmas Eve, and Trevor learns that he is at the center of it. Realizing that he is all that stands between this darkness and his family's survival.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/houseofmysteryradio. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/houseofmysteryradio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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COO Eric Ritchie is joined by Superintendent James McCarthy in the Flywheel Studio and dials in Regional Manager, Southern Maine Matt Thibault, Project Executive Nick Rosswog, and Superintendent John Madigan to discuss their current projects. How do these two projects add value to what we do and what important lessons have they learned? Answers to those questions and more on this week's episode! New Scholarship Program for Children of Employee OwnersSargent is a member of the Employee ownership Foundation and they have announced the establishment of a new annual scholarship program that employee-owners and their children are eligible to receive for their college or vocational education. The Trustee Scholars program will provide scholarship funds for college and vocational school education for employees or the dependent children of employees who are corporate members of The ESOP Association. – That's us.Application Open: December 15, 2023 - February 15, 2024Created by the Employee Ownership Foundation for children of employee owners.Open to employee owners and family members of corporate members of The ESOP Association at the time of application.Each year, the Foundation will award two $5,000 per year scholarships for college or trade school, renewable for up to four years each.Up to $20,000 for a four-year degree.Scholarship winners will also be eligible for a paid internship in the Washington headquarters of The ESOP Association.The Foundation will start awarding scholarships for students beginning school in the fall of 2024.Apply Now!https://www.employeeownershipfoundation.org/grants-funding/trustee-scholars?_zs=ULwxd&_zl=uvCt3 File your taxes for free!We've invested in SmartDollar to help you take control of your finances—including your taxes. And that means you can file with Ramsey SmartTax for free! (And what's more budget friendly than free?)Get started with Ramsey SmartTax here. If you don't have a SmartDollar account yet, create your account and you'll find Ramsey SmartTax in the Money Tools tab in SmartDollar. Company Keyword: sargent6536Happy filing!  Resubscribe to the On-Track Podcast text messages:833-799-0458UNSTOPor“Add me to the list”Resources: If you're an Employee-Owner at Sargent, and haven't joined the Sargent Employee Facebook page, please send a request and it will be approved ASAP. https://www.facebook.com/groups/654722688058070/permalink/2072270649636593/ If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/apply/If you have an episode suggestion, please send your idea to:sbennage@sargent.us

An apartment building in South Hill, WA had to be evacuated at 4:30 in the morning when someone started a fire. HOW the fire got started is the interesting part.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

CW: this episode contains graphic descriptions of sexual assault, please use caution when listening. Kevin Coe continues stalking and assaulting women and girls in Spokane's South Hill neighborhood, local media reveals the investigative playbook, and a brave young woman turns the tide in the search for the South Hill Rapist.  This is part two of the crimes of Kevin Coe. Sources https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20060831&slug=sexpredator31m https://web.archive.org/web/20080605225505/http://www.spokesmanreview.com/sections/coe/?ID=224824 https://www.heraldnet.com/news/victim-describes-rape-in-kevin-coe-case/ https://web.archive.org/web/20080605225304/http://www.spokesmanreview.com/sections/coe/?ID=147366 https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/mar/26/south-hill-rapists-mother-dies-at-age-75-ruth-coe/ https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna24922815 https://web.archive.org/web/20080605225329/http://www.spokesmanreview.com/sections/coe/?ID=150928 https://www.seattlepi.com/seattlenews/article/state-seeks-coe-dna-to-confirm-1980-rape-1224479.php https://www.kxly.com/news/kevin-coe-commitment-upheld-by-wa-supreme-court/article_9b97a870-53a3-5b4f-947c-08fe228c1e77.html https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/jun/27/south-hill-rapist-kevin-coe-seeks-acquittal/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/nov/05/case-of-the-century-lawyers-judges-and-journalists/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/spokane-rapist-kevin-coes-writings-in-jail-reveal-sex-obsession/ https://www.khq.com/news/convicted-rapist-kevin-coe-to-remain-at-mcneil-island/article_27461e60-920e-5c3c-9c6c-7c7bb341959e.html https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2008/oct/10/coes-sister-testifies-on-his-behalf/ Son: A Psychopath and His Victims by Jack Olsen https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2008/09/convicted_rapist_coe_cant_be_c.html https://www.khq.com/news/coes-civil-commitment-trial-continues-coe-expected-to-take-stand-tuesday/article_88295956-ea40-547a-9973-55a7a73782fb.html https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/11/23/Convicted-rapist-to-wed/2167501570000/ https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19990119&slug=2939555 https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/wa-court-of-appeals/1561320.html http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/04/01/last.prison.island.closes/index.html?hpt=C2 https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/coes-civil-commitment-case-grows-by-21-victims/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2008/oct/17/jury-shuts-door-on-coe/ https://www.khq.com/news/667-jurors-called-for-kevin-coe-civil-trial/article_cc3f7afa-07d9-51b1-95d8-f9c64f911559.html https://www.kxly.com/news/local-news/spokane/kevin-coe-files-federal-appeal-against-civil-commitment/article_9478218d-75b3-5823-ae21-7dbfac0e538b.html https://www.historylink.org/File/9484

CW: this episode contains graphic descriptions of sexual assault, please use caution when listening. The South Hill Rapist stalked the upscale South Hill neighborhood of Spokane, WA and terrorized its residents from 1987 to 1981.  This is part one of the crimes of Kevin Coe. Sources https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20060831&slug=sexpredator31m https://web.archive.org/web/20080605225505/http://www.spokesmanreview.com/sections/coe/?ID=224824 https://www.heraldnet.com/news/victim-describes-rape-in-kevin-coe-case/ https://web.archive.org/web/20080605225304/http://www.spokesmanreview.com/sections/coe/?ID=147366 https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/mar/26/south-hill-rapists-mother-dies-at-age-75-ruth-coe/ https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna24922815 https://web.archive.org/web/20080605225329/http://www.spokesmanreview.com/sections/coe/?ID=150928 https://www.seattlepi.com/seattlenews/article/state-seeks-coe-dna-to-confirm-1980-rape-1224479.php https://www.kxly.com/news/kevin-coe-commitment-upheld-by-wa-supreme-court/article_9b97a870-53a3-5b4f-947c-08fe228c1e77.html https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/jun/27/south-hill-rapist-kevin-coe-seeks-acquittal/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/nov/05/case-of-the-century-lawyers-judges-and-journalists/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/spokane-rapist-kevin-coes-writings-in-jail-reveal-sex-obsession/ https://www.khq.com/news/convicted-rapist-kevin-coe-to-remain-at-mcneil-island/article_27461e60-920e-5c3c-9c6c-7c7bb341959e.html https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2008/oct/10/coes-sister-testifies-on-his-behalf/ Son: A Psychopath and His Victims by Jack Olsen https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2008/09/convicted_rapist_coe_cant_be_c.html https://www.khq.com/news/coes-civil-commitment-trial-continues-coe-expected-to-take-stand-tuesday/article_88295956-ea40-547a-9973-55a7a73782fb.html https://www.upi.com/Archives/1985/11/23/Convicted-rapist-to-wed/2167501570000/ https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19990119&slug=2939555 https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/wa-court-of-appeals/1561320.html http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/04/01/last.prison.island.closes/index.html?hpt=C2 https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/coes-civil-commitment-case-grows-by-21-victims/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2008/oct/17/jury-shuts-door-on-coe/ https://www.khq.com/news/667-jurors-called-for-kevin-coe-civil-trial/article_cc3f7afa-07d9-51b1-95d8-f9c64f911559.html https://www.kxly.com/news/local-news/spokane/kevin-coe-files-federal-appeal-against-civil-commitment/article_9478218d-75b3-5823-ae21-7dbfac0e538b.html https://www.historylink.org/File/9484  

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Junior Superintendent Tim Powell and Project Executive Nick Rosswog talk with Herb about how their Microsoft Project in South Hill, Virginia is going. The crew discusses the difficulties of working on a project with many subcontractors working simultaneously and what our crew can learn from it. As always, Herb reads off submitted shout-outs, and shares important information about the Sargent scholarship. Sargent Scholarship Application: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://sargent.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Scholarship-Form-2022-Fillable-PDF-1.pdfResources: If you're an Employee-Owner at Sargent, and haven't joined the Sargent Employee Facebook page, please send a request and it will be approved ASAP. https://www.facebook.com/groups/654722688058070/permalink/2072270649636593/ If you liked this week's episode and are interested in becoming an Employee-Owner at Sargent, please visit our careers page on the Sargent website. https://sargent.us/careers/open-positions/

On this episode of Spokast!, we have Tyler Poole joining us, a friend of the podcast, an OG Spokanite, and the owner of Poole's Public House on the South Hill. Join us as we dive into Tyler's life in Spokane & his in adventure away in Seattle. We'll talk about his South Hill eatery for Poole's Public House and stay till the end of the episode for news on a new business project he's bringing to our community.

This episode of VHHA's Patients Come First Podcast features an interview with Wendy Burch, RRT, a respiratory therapist at VCU Health Community Memorial Hospital in South Hill who unexpectedly was pressed into duty to deliver a baby when her daughter went into labor in the garage at her Arizona home while Burch was visiting the family. Send questions, comments, feedback, or guest suggestions to pcfpodcast@vhha.com or contact us on Twitter or Instagram using the #PatientsComeFirst hashtag.

On this midweek show, Crystal has a conversation with Spokane City Council Member Zack Zappone about his approach to politics and policy as a Democrat in a more conservative area of Washington state. Council Member Zappone speaks to the importance of connecting with voters on their issues, the focus he brings to making sure everyone has a fair shot, and how Spokane is leading the way on affordable housing and zoning policy.  Crystal and Zack then dig into public safety - fearmongering and inaccurate perceptions surrounding crime statistics, how best to address open drug use, and concerns about Spokane Police giving special treatment to downtown business owners. The show wraps up with discussion of how an old guard resistant to change stands in the way of progress and how Council Member Zappone is working to disrupt systems with new ideas to make Spokane a vibrant urban center inclusive to everyone. As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Follow us on Twitter at @HacksWonks. Find the host, Crystal Fincher, on Twitter at @finchfrii and find Councilmember Zack Zappone at @ZackZappone.   Council Member Zack Zappone Council Member Zappone represents northwest Spokane. He is a sixth-generation Eastern Washingtonian, teacher, and public health worker. He is dedicated to advocating for all people. Zack saw first-hand that no matter how hard his students worked, they continued to face obstacles to upward mobility outside of the classroom. He saw that the lack of access to healthcare services, safe walking routes to school, or living-wage jobs continued to be a barrier to equity and a stronger community for his students. He currently teaches English part-time at his alma mater, North Central High School. Zack is passionate about serving our community, volunteering with community vaccine clinics like the Native Project. He also served with the Spokane Food Fighters during the Coronavirus pandemic, witnessing the extent of income inequality and hardship in the community while helping to deliver over 100,000 meals to Spokanites in need. Zack graduated from Georgetown University and has a master's in public affairs from Princeton University. Zack is focused on creating ways to lift up working and middle class families, and to serve our community to make sure everyone has a fair shot.   Resources Zack Zappone for Spokane City Council   “Zack Zappone assumes office as first openly bisexual candidate elected to Spokane City Council” by Ian Smay from KREM   “‘Suddenly, there's options': Spokane City Council OKs one-year zoning change allowing multi-family housing, townhouses in all residential zones” by Greg Mason from The Spokesman-Review   “Property crimes are way up, violent crimes are down, and politicians and business owners are waging a war of perception over the safety of downtown Spokane” by Nate Sanford from The Inlander   Transcript [00:00:00] Crystal Fincher: Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm Crystal Fincher, and I'm a political consultant and your host. On this show, we talk with policy wonks and political hacks to gather insight into local politics and policy in Washington state through the lens of those doing the work with behind-the-scenes perspectives on what's happening, why it's happening, and what you can do about it. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get the full versions of our Friday almost-live shows and our midweek show delivered to your podcast feed. If you like us, the most helpful thing you can do is leave a review wherever you listen to Hacks & Wonks. Full transcripts and resources referenced in the show are always available at officialhacksandwonks.com and in our episode notes. Today I am very excited to be welcoming Spokane City Council Member Zack Zappone to the podcast. Welcome, Zack. [00:01:02] Council Member Zack Zappone: Hi, thanks for having me. [00:01:03] Crystal Fincher: Thanks for being on the program. So you are a Spokane City Council Member. What made you decide to run for office, and what was your path to becoming a City Council Member? [00:01:14] Council Member Zack Zappone: Yeah, I would say I didn't have the traditional path. I was born and raised here in Spokane, and grew up and attended the same high school as my grandfather. Now I teach at the high school - I'm a part-time teacher still to this day - I teach 10th grade English. I always struggled with pathways to opportunity and inequalities in our system, in the school education system. A lot of my peers and coworkers and students would work really, really hard and there were always more barriers to success and opportunity outside the classroom. No matter how hard we worked, we felt like we were coming up short. There were transportation issues - I had students that would get hit by cars in front of the school - three times in three years and no one at the City felt like they were doing anything. A lack of healthcare and medical needs and dental needs that were being met that were interfering with their school life, or job opportunities, or just all these different issues. So I got involved in public policy and got my Master's degree in Public Policy and then came back home to Spokane right before the pandemic. And was getting involved in local politics, looking and applying for jobs. And as I was applying for jobs, the pandemic hit. And so that was 2020. I was substitute teaching at the time so there was no need for substitute teachers. So I was unemployed, I was living with my parents. And like anybody else unemployed and living with their parents, I said - What am I gonna do with my life? I'm gonna run for local office. And so I actually ran in 2020 for State Representative - saw my representative at that time didn't match the values that I had and actually was making it a lot more challenging for education and educators. And so I ran against him - I knew it was gonna be a tough race in a swing year district - and came up short but had a really strong race. And then I saw the next year, in 2021, there was a city council race and knew that was gonna be open - the next year was an open seat - and it overlapped with where I was running. So I really did my campaign in 2020 with an eye towards 2021 - just in case. And knew there were a lot of important issues at the local level that we still deal with when it comes to creating opportunity and making sure everyone has a fair shot. [00:03:04] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. And your path is a path taken by several others in that you have a first run. That first run may not have won the race but did a really good job campaigning - built a lot of relationships, built a profile in the community and organized around that, built a bit of a movement - that you were able to leverage into another race. What lessons did you learn, and what do you think was most helpful about running a second time? [00:03:29] Council Member Zack Zappone: I don't know if I would have won the second time if I didn't run the first time. So the second time for city council - I'm in again the swing district in the city council race, which came down to controlling the super-majority here on council. And so there was tons of outside money that was involved in that second race that really wasn't there in the first race. And a big smear campaign on TV. And the realtors and developers and special interests outspent my campaign - I think it was almost four to one that we were outspent. They spent more money attacking me through the PACs than I spent in my own campaign. And so there was a very different tone in that campaign. And it really escalated when the negative attack ads started on TV towards mid- to end of October. I ended up winning by about 1%. And so I don't know if I would have won if I didn't have - had two years of essentially campaigning. The other big thing - the irony is I'm an English teacher, but I don't like to spell check or grammar check. And I learned that - not to engage with the trolls on social media. And that was - I think it played a factor, and I was very nervous on Election Night - how big a factor it was. But I made a typo on social media. Once the negative attack ads started happening, it really became tons of trolls and borderline harassment on social media of defunding the police and that stuff. And they were going back and commenting on posts a year ago - on my friend's posts - and they're like, Why are you supporting Zack? He's defunding the police. He's a defunder defunder defunder defunder. And I tried - I woke up one morning, I was still in bed and was writing a response. It was - Once again, let me restate my position. I do not want to defund the police. I want to invest and grow the police force, and reinvent it, and invest in social services and mental health and police accountability and all this stuff. Long, long paragraph. But I forgot a key word which was the word "not." And so they took a screenshot and cropped it and sent out text messages the weekend before the election saying - In his own words, Zack Zappone wants to defund the police. And the police guild was sending it. And when I was knocking on doors, people were getting the messages and they're like - I just saw this, you wanted to do this? And I was like - No, no. And there was no real way to respond and get your message out that late in the game. And this was their message from all along, so it just furthered it. And it's scary - from misinformation side - that this was super dishonest and they knew it was dishonest. And who's to say that it wasn't even Photoshopped and fake information in the first place. And what does that look like for future campaigns? I don't even know how we can protect ourselves against that kind of misinformation. Technically I did write it, but it was dishonest in the facts and what I'd been saying for months - and even in the context of the paragraph. So lesson learned there is - make sure to double check your social media posts or just don't engage. [00:06:09] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, that was a whole thing. Fortunately - somewhat fortunately - it's hard once you have an opponent who is so intent on misconstruing your words, twisting your words, and making it - just wanting to win at all costs basically, even if it means that they aren't being honest. The paper, The Spokesman Review, I think the Inlander covered it and said - Clearly, this was a typo. Clearly he has a long record and has been consistent in what he's been saying all along. But you ended up still prevailing. [00:06:43] Council Member Zack Zappone: I won. [00:06:44] Crystal Fincher: Yes - full disclosure - we also, our firm worked on this from an IE perspective. But you were an excellent candidate who really stepped forward with values and said - I'm a Democrat. Spokane is an area, unlike Seattle, that has a vibrant Republican Party and conservative movement - you did have a more conservative opponent. And people wanted to see a change. People were ready for that change. And you had made a connection with a lot of people in your district who, even though they may have been used to something different, were ready to try something new because they saw that the old type of solutions were not working out. What was top of mind for voters, and what is top of mind in Spokane and in your district? [00:07:28] Council Member Zack Zappone: Yeah, lots of things come to mind right away. But I think on the Democratic side, I am the youngest elected official - the only millennial in the County - that was elected. So I think from our party's perspective, it really was this generational shift. The conservatives - they had another candidate running at the same time who's conservative and a millennial - but this was a generational change. Kate Burke was before me, but she wasn't re-running, and so that was of changing - so it was this kind of generational change. And I heard a lot of people at the doors just saying - We're ready for change. We want young people. We want new energy, new ideas. We want that. There's always this debate in Spokane of how much do you lean into being progressive, and how much do you showcase that? And I don't think I shied away from it. I leaned into it. And we did some things that were untraditional - of doing mailers that were just directed towards Democrats, saying endorsed by Democrats. And that really hadn't been done for a city council race before. I would also - when I talked to people at the doors, they'd ask you, they always love to ask what party you are. And I'm like - Well, I'm an Eastern Washington Democrat. It's different than a Seattle Democrat because a lot of the attacks were - Don't turn Spokane into Seattle. And so I had one person, only one person that ever - after I left the door, he chased me down, two houses later. He was - I went and talked to my wife - and he said, What's an Eastern Washington Democrat? I was - That's a good question. Thanks for calling me out on that. And so I told him, I was - Well, to me, an Eastern Washington Democrat is caring about working people, and giving people fair opportunities and fair shots. And that's what I'm here for - is making sure that if you work hard, you go to school, you work hard at a job - you get your healthcare taken care of, you're able to have opportunity, transportation's accessible. These are the things that we care about here. And these are the things that I wanna fight for - is making sure everyone has a fair shot. So he said, Okay yeah, that's good. But there's misconceptions, total misconceptions. Other people at the doors would be - Oh, I heard all Democrats are communists. And I'm like that's not true. And we have strong Republican arms that are getting out this misinformation here - Fox News - it sounds like you're coming straight from Fox News. But it's really connecting to voters on their issues. And I think the surprising thing that came up to me - it was more in 2020 than '21 - 'cause the statewide race, we had more polling than we did at the local race. And one of the polling issues - you're trying to look for what are the weaknesses in my opponent. And the one that I never thought would happen was the biggest weakness - was conversion therapy. And my opponent had supported keeping conversion therapy for youth. And I was - Oh, he didn't vote to fully fund our schools on McCleary fix. Everyone cares about schools. But it was - nope, voters didn't care. It was conversion therapy. And here in Spokane, you're like, What? My attack - not attack - contrast piece showed our values on different things, like fully funding schools, supporting the environment, all these things. And then I added conversion therapy on there and said, Which candidate supports conversion therapy? And it was me and him. And that resonated with people a lot. And they're - That's so like medieval. I can't believe someone would even believe that. I was - I know, right? And he's your elected official. We need someone who matches our values and what we represent. And so some of those social issues are still top of mind for a lot of voters here in Spokane - people don't realize that. But of course, big issues here in Spokane - like the rest of the state, urban places - homelessness and affordable housing rise to the top, and caring about infrastructure needs too. But there's definitely this division around housing and homelessness, and people feeling like there's been no progress and wanting to see progress on that front. And there's always a need. Our mayor won in 2019 on compassionate accountability. So there is this kind of accountability sense that people feel need to happen here, but they want to see action more than anything. People want to see something changing and something happening. Those are like macro, but there's also super micro things - in their neighborhood. And at the local level, what's super awesome is that people care about this trail around the corner from their street, or their local business district. And how do we get some infrastructure improvements in our local business district to grow and support it? And whether that's streetscape and growing that. So there's all - lots of little issues - but the big macro issues are, it comes down to affordability and working class people having a foot in the door that they can still have that opportunity. [00:11:37] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, and you've been active working on issues of affordability. Housing has been a big topic of interest, of concern. We just had the middle housing bill pass in our Legislature, which you were a supporter of - and also took local action. What have you been doing in Spokane in terms of housing affordability? [00:11:56] Council Member Zack Zappone: Yes, we - our Council President loves to say that when Spokane leads, the state follows. And in this case, we here in Spokane definitely believe that we were leading the way on affordable housing and zoning changes on the missing middle stuff. So last year - '22 summer - we passed BOCA, which is Building Opportunities and Choices for All, which upzoned the entire city. We had some debate whether it should be along transit corridors or citywide. And I was the swing there that brought it to citywide. And for me, it was about creating neighborhoods that were accessible to anybody to live in those neighborhoods. And if we kept it in the transit corridors - I'm a teacher - I knew that would impact who would be able to live in certain neighborhoods. And we would have essentially exclusionary zoning - allowing single-family zoning in some areas, while you could allow up to fourplexes in other zoning - and I've seen the impacts of economic segregation in our schools, and I've worked in those schools. And I've worked in schools 90% free and reduced lunch, and a lot of that comes from the zoning policies that the City creates. And I know that a key to opportunity and success is when we have that diversity in our schools. And so I couldn't support something that would not allow anybody to live in any neighborhood in our City. And so we did it citywide up to fourplexes. The state did us one better and said, It's up to sixplexes now if you allow affordable housing. But we were definitely supportive of that. We know that here in Spokane, it goes beyond the city limits. It's a regional issue. So if we were the only ones to do that up-zoning - then Spokane Valley or the smaller towns around the area weren't doing it - we wouldn't be meeting the needs of housing in our entire county. And so we were super supportive of the state requiring that of all jurisdictions - or larger jurisdictions, I guess, is what they did. We supported it from the initial version that required it statewide. So that's one of our exciting policies. I'm proud to say that we've been at the forefront here. [00:13:49] Crystal Fincher: And this is an area which was - certainly excited to see that progress being made, excited to see the promise of a local elected official who would run, and - hey, who's a Democrat, who's progressive, who talks about living this policy, and then becoming a swing vote to make that policy happen. It seems like definitely a connection to being engaged in your community and on the ground really can usher in change. This is also an issue that Seattle has had its own challenges with and hasn't been able to make the kind of progress that Spokane has been able to make. What advice would you give people in Seattle who are looking to make progress on this? Obviously the state just stepped in and helped jurisdictions really bring in this decision. But overall in learning the lessons and building a coalition, your advocacy for this, facing the opposition - what do you think were the most useful things in successfully advocating for housing progress? [00:14:47] Council Member Zack Zappone: Yeah, it was really strange that - when it came to the vote, we actually only had one person testify against it. And seeing this in other places - you see tons of people just show up against it, and that did not happen here in Spokane. And I think we took a different approach and tried to do it more as an interim zoning change. So we did a one-year - this is what we passed - and we're like, let's see what this does and let's try that out for a year. And if the world falls apart during that year because of our zoning change, then we can undo it. We didn't think that would happen, and I think that helped build a lot of that community trust in that process is - Okay, let's try this out for a year. We all know the problem and identify that problem. Around missing middle, it actually became a unanimous vote amongst council and the mayor to support that. So it had bipartisan support here and people often joke - Once you go so far left, you're back to the right, it's a full circle. And in this case, we were able to partner up on that. There was division on how far it should go, but everyone thought we needed to take some action and to do that action. And the division was more really between the neighborhoods - in people who didn't want change in their neighborhoods - and those who want to address the issue. And when I go around the neighborhoods to talk about it, and I hear lots of people who are angry about a new four-story apartment complex that's gonna go in - 60 units in their neighborhood - right along the business district. But I'm - Look, we have to either embrace change and be okay with things to change, or we have to be okay with not having our loved ones nearby us because they're not gonna be able to afford to live here. That means your kids, your parents, other people won't be able to afford to live nearby you and you're gonna have to commute to Idaho to go see them. Is that what you want? Or are you willing to make some changes in your neighborhood so that we're able to do it? What's more important to you - the look of the houses in your neighborhood or the people that you care about? And I think that does resonate with some people - obviously not everyone - but I think it's trying to focus on - What are our values? What is the problem? And how will this help those two together? [00:16:46] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Another area, just like so many areas across the country, that is an issue of concern is that of public safety. And news that violent crime is down in Spokane, across the board. And property crime, while it is lower than it has been at other times, there has been a recent uptick. Although Spokane is also battling perceptions that differ from that are creating fear and causing people to want varying solutions. Where are you at in public safety? Where is Spokane at? And what do you think is most needed right now? [00:17:21] Council Member Zack Zappone: Good question. I think there are so many misconceptions and [mis]understandings around public safety. It's even hard for me, as a Council Member, to make sense of this. And I have, I would say, more than most people's information on what's happening. And it's still confusing about what information's being shared and what statistics are being shared. And I've had a lot of challenges with our local law enforcement in getting information and being able to share that information. It's frustrating. I see the mayor and the police chief going on TV frequently to talk about problems. This last week, they were blaming violence on packs of juveniles in downtown. And I'm - Packs of juveniles that are roaming our streets and terrifying us? Interestingly enough, I'm trying to work on creating teen centers. So I guess we can invest in our teen centers and give programming to kids if this is where you're concerned about. But there definitely is this active, constant fearmongering that is being perpetuated. And it's really challenging - there is some truth to it, right? There is people - more and more people are experiencing more car robberies and more things like that. So - [00:18:30] Crystal Fincher: Crime does exist. [00:18:31] Council Member Zack Zappone: Yes, exactly. And people see that and then it resonates and they just keep growing on it. But there's things like when the mayor - we had an emergency warming shelter in the convention center right when I started in '21 - and we had 200 and some people that were sleeping on the floors of the convention center. And after that, the mayor's going on TV and briefing us about all the damages caused by these people who didn't know how to sleep or use the bathrooms - they're destroying the carpet. And I was - Yeah, these are nice convention centers. And when we're having 200 people sleeping on the floor, what do you think is gonna happen? We talked about - another Council Member said, If I had 200 Girl Scouts staying the night on the convention center for a week, it's gonna cause damage. This is what happens. But it's this fearmongering that creates more stigma that is not helpful for addressing root problems. And that's been really frustrating. Right now we're considering - coming forward, the mayor's big proposal is open drug use safety - safe spaces is what they call it - to make it a gross misdemeanor to have open drug use. And there's a lot of questions about how this will be enforced, what would it do? And interestingly enough, we're seeing other places around the state, like Bellingham, just approve the same - they made it a misdemeanor. The state right now, in their Blake decision fix, is considering it. But this is what we hear a lot about is - what are we gonna do about drug use? And how do we handle this? We deferred it because the state might preempt us and what that would do. But if not, I think there is this intentional fearmongering around fentanyl and drugs to try to scare people. And don't get me wrong - nobody thinks that there should be safety issues when you're walking down the street with open drug use - that's not it. But people who use drugs on the street are addicts. And how do we get them the resources that will actually get them off the street and healthy and stable again? Jail's not gonna do that. We know it doesn't do that. The research shows it doesn't do that. So what would this actually accomplish? I don't know. And we just had in our briefing this week, the police actually have the ability right now to take drug paraphernalia and drugs in possession cases. They have that ability. They admitted it. And then we said, Well, why aren't you doing it right now? And they said, Well, you know when we take those things, it leads to more use-of-force issues. And that causes more incidences between people - 'cause someone's on drugs that are high, they're gonna cause more issues when you're taking stuff away from them. Yeah - no duh. No one wants to have stuff taken away from them. And so the new proposal, and I don't know where this is gonna go, but it said the police shall take drugs and paraphernalia away. It's a requirement. What is that going to do? Is that going to create more escalation in tactics in our City? We don't know. And so there's a lot of concerns around that, but there's a lot of concerns - We gotta do something. We can't keep doing nothing. So to answer your question, where is public safety? We don't know. There's also big issues with a Police Ombudsman report that just came out. Next week, we'll be looking at a resolution to do an investigation into the police chief and other officials about their actions around records and release of public records that have been used for electioneering - to influence and lobby City Council and influence elections - and whether they're treating people differently. This report had nothing to do with the police chief - it was just discovered, through a different investigation, that the chief had hundreds and hundreds of emails exchanges with downtown property owners. And was giving them special access and reports and information - information that I can't even get as a City Council Member - when I ask for police record updates, it takes me over months and they're giving it to these business property owners within days. Or they're creating new categories within their records because the downtown property owners have asked for it - for this crime, can you label it as a vagrant person - is what they asked for. And then the Chief's - We don't have that. Two days later, he's - Oh, we created a new category. Here you go. And then the person says, Thank you so much for that information. We're going to use that and let City Council know the next time when they need to pass this open drug ordinance, as an example. And so lots of questions about - is law enforcement being fair to everyone and being responsive to everyone, or are there special access and special relationships established. And I've been in meetings with the police chief with local organization - healthcare organization - where he said, I will not sign a memorandum of understanding to share basic information, like when missing Indigenous women are gone - we won't share that information or have an MOU to share that information - because the leadership of this healthcare clinic has been disrespectful to me, the police chief, I will not sign it. I'm like, What? [00:23:01] Crystal Fincher: Wow. [00:23:02] Council Member Zack Zappone: You won't sign it there, but you will give this downtown property owner extra access and create - so we have a lot of questions about - about - just a lot of questions. I don't know how else to put it. [00:23:13] Crystal Fincher: Lot of questions. And this is playing out - I see it playing out a lot of suburban cities, a lot of major cities across the country - where there's this old guard who's clinging to the way things have been, who's very invested in the way things have been - even though the general public is pretty dissatisfied with the way things have been and they want change. And the resistance to that and the length that people who are resisting it will go to, which becomes particularly concerning when you think about the access and the privileges and the power that these people do have. If you're coming with the force of law and making decisions based on whether you feel personally offended or triggered, it's just really problematic and is not treating people fairly in the community. And it's gonna bring up issues that really make people really concerned about whether they can trust the people who are there to enforce the law. What are the next steps that are happening with that? [00:24:12] Council Member Zack Zappone: The next step that we're looking into is an independent outside investigation to see if - we don't have the full scope, this was just brought up in a different investigation. So we're just asking, Can you look into what happened and is it being fair? The mayor has said that she's fully supporting the chief and that she thinks it's just a matter of responding and good customer service. And so we're saying - There's just a lot of questions. The community deserves to know answers, and we want to know. And so we're looking at that - it's coming to committee next week and voted on the next week after that. But to go to your point about this old guard and changing - as a new person on the political scene here, not just at the City, but we sit on other boards and commissions. One is transit, and the transit here in Spokane has been the same people on the board for 20 years. And I've been trying to bring up new ideas and it has come to conflict with some of them. I'm trying to push forward low-income fare fee passes that we don't have in Spokane - similar to ORCA LIFT program, where it'd be income based. We don't have that in Spokane, and I am getting a lot of resistance from other board members and staff about - We just don't do that, that's not something that we do here in Spokane. I'm like - Well, why not? What does it take to do it? Things can move quickly if there's a will to make that move quickly, but I'm seeing lots of barriers and obstacles of people on it. And it's just - Well, why? What is our reasons for not considering these new things to make it accessible and easier for people to make that change? And so we have some other great, great Council Members that I work with and we're looking at how do we institute equity policies that have to be frameworks that we have to operate under. So we're not doing these one-off battles all the time - whether it's the $5 administrative fee for cards that creates a barrier, whether it's certain routes, or if it's how youth are able to access the Zero Fare program, creating barriers of having to go online to sign up, creating language access barriers for people who don't have that - what can we do so we're not picking one-off battles to create a framework that moves these institutions to meet the needs of everyone in our community and create those low barriers and creating more opportunity. And we're getting there, but it definitely hasn't come without some pains and some - there's been incidents where I've been called young by other people lots of times, a disruptor telling people that I don't like systems and stuff like that. So those come up - I'm sure those weren't meant as positive things, but I think it's a good thing. I'm disrupting a system that needs to be disrupted. [00:26:40] Crystal Fincher: You mean disruptor, Zack Zappone - my goodness. How dare you bring new ideas. [00:26:47] Council Member Zack Zappone: I know. It's terrifying. [00:26:49] Crystal Fincher: So what does the state of public transit, access, mobility for people walking, riding - what does that look like in Spokane and what are you working on? [00:26:59] Council Member Zack Zappone: I think that we're on the cusp of a lot of great things. And there are a lot of great people - as much as I'm talking about some frustrations right now, I think that staff is doing a lot of great work and we're moving forward. So this summer we're gonna be opening our very first bus rapid transit line in Spokane - City Line - that's gonna run across downtown between the community college and Browne's Addition. It's gonna run every 15 minutes to start and then every seven and a half minutes when it's done. And that's gonna increase development along there - we're changing the zoning laws around there to increase that transportation oriented development, creating these pocket neighborhoods, and trying to grow that urban feel. We're working on expanding our neighborhood business districts to use some American Rescue Plan money to invest in our neighborhoods so it's not just downtown - but people can go and stay in their neighborhoods, walk to their neighborhoods, and have that restaurant feel, shopping and not having to go. But it also helps with tourism too, making it more urban. I've been in talks about how do we look at a free zone on our transportation so people can hop on the bus at one end. If you do park downtown, you only have to park one spot and then you can ride the bus, the City Line. Or trying to look at an event shuttle that would go around the North Bank to our arena and our sports complex and shows, and how that shuttle could be free too. And you can have this dynamic urban life that a lot of people don't even think exists in Spokane. But I'm born and raised here - I love to talk about how great Spokane is, especially for all the West siders who just think we're cow tippers - but there is so much exciting stuff going on that - you can go whitewater rafting out of downtown Spokane. I can see them from City Hall - and you can get on the river and you can go rafting, come back, and you can go to a concert. You could see shows from - Shania Twain's coming next week, Paul McCartney, Macklemore's coming - we get the big shows. Theater - Phantom of the Opera before, but Hamilton, and Wicked I saw last year. And so we have great urban culture. And then we also have that quick and easy access - within mile of downtown - that you're out in nature. And that, I think, is super unique to other places around the state in that we are investing and growing that. There's definitely a car-centric history here in Spokane and a suburban feel within our neighborhoods. But there is a lot of energy and excitement about how do we do that both for the environmental impact, health impact, the social determinants of health, and how do we create that? And it's just the quality of life - that people don't have to spend more time in their cars. Of course, this comes with affordability issues and we're seeing growth into Idaho - Coeur d'Alene and along the corridor - and that's creating more congestion out that direction. So how do we address our housing so that people don't have to keep moving out that way. And keeping it affordable for builders so that they can continue to build and we can keep making Spokane a more urban, denser, vibrant community. We're investing in our bike infrastructure. We're creating our first protected bike paths here in Spokane. I got another one started up as a starter pilot. So we have one that cuts across downtown and we're trying to go out of downtown into neighborhoods. We're looking at finally getting the infrastructure for plows and street cleaners for bike lanes, getting some full-time employees dedicated to bike lane infrastructure and growing it. But there's definitely challenges, like anywhere. But I think we are really in the next couple of years - I've learned quickly that things seem to take years in government to build and construct. I think of my own classroom and I'm - If I want to change it tomorrow, I change it tomorrow - doesn't seem to happen in a larger bureaucracy, but that's cool. We have a street mural painting program, taking off a community crosswalk program like Seattle - we're implementing it here. And this June we'll be painting our first rainbow pride crosswalk in Spokane in a full intersection downtown, and trying to create a program that makes our neighborhoods more inclusive and more vibrant and more reflective of the people here. [00:30:46] Crystal Fincher: Lots of exciting things going on there. Also want to talk about - you mentioned a little bit about environmental and health impacts - know that you, especially in Eastern Washington dealing with wildfire smoke, dealing with all of the issues that we're dealing with, and trying to hit climate goals. What is it like being on a mixed council with both progressives and conservatives there? What is the conversation around reducing greenhouse gas emissions and improving health impacts like, and what are your priorities? [00:31:16] Council Member Zack Zappone: Yeah, that's a good question. They can definitely be a little more contentious. For some reason, it always seems to show up the most in Spokane with our electric vehicles and City fleet. And I think - the state provides a lot of goals and requirements, and so a lot of what we're doing here, we lean on and say, We have to do it. The state is requiring it. And then we have to implement those standards and those goals. And it's also the right thing to do. And so all City fleet has turnover to electric vehicles, but we're just - are getting a lot of resistance from police about turning into electric vehicles. And it becomes a weird thing that now all of a sudden you don't support the police because you don't support the type of car that they want. I don't understand it. And this actually - electric vehicles of the police fleet was an issue that the chief was sending to the business owners to try to get them to lobby us about. Was about electric vehicles of the police fleet. And yeah, I get it. Some models don't work. So we got some Teslas to pilot out and they were too small for officers to fit comfortably in them with their gear and stuff like that. So it's - Okay, great. Find the specs that do and other cities are moving that way too. And so we ordered some Mach-Es and Ford F-150 Lightnings to test those out too, so we can transfer over and hybrids in between. But then we find out - they just keep saying that they don't work and they canceled the order on the Ford F-150 Lightnings 'cause they became more expensive without telling us that they canceled the order. And I'm - That just seems like lack of transparency and more barriers for the administration. I was - You didn't ask us if we would pay for more money. Where's our priorities? And actually, electric vehicles save money in the long term too. And so that's part of it. And so there's a lot of struggles around electric vehicles. Talking about building code standards and working on those. But also, like I mentioned before, the walkability and less reliance on cars is a big factor too. We're talking about our urban forest canopy and heat zones, and trying to support street trees and growing that especially in neighborhoods that have been under-resourced historically. We have a sustainable action plan that has been developed and supported by - actually - diverse members of our community. And that's a subcommittee out of City Council that brings forward issues. We have a lot of water issues. Our aquifer is great and plentiful, but we haven't - it's very, very cheap. And so people have very large lawns, and in the summers it's really hot and they just water the heck out of it. So we passed an ordinance last year to limit watering during the week to every other day and not during the hottest part of the day - and that was pretty controversial. I don't remember if the mayor - I think the mayor did veto that too, and we had to override the veto. There's just accusations of you're penalizing, and we want to focus on encouraging people to do these things instead of penalizing. It's - Yes, we want to do incentive based program, but we also have to have accountability too sometimes. So it's interesting about when they choose who is accountable and who the conservatives here don't think is accountable. And that shows up both in public safety, but also in environmental policy and other areas too. [00:34:21] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, it's always interesting - those conversations around accountability. We hear that word a lot when people want punitive, carceral solutions and - hey, we got to crack down, people need to be accountable. Yet that doesn't seem to apply across the board equally when they don't feel like having it apply. Appreciate you looking into these issues and hopefully the City will get to the bottom of all of that. I also want to talk to you just about what we're dealing with across the country - we're seeing hate take roots with different communities, particularly the LGBTQ+ community and trans people, seeing legislation being targeted at basically their existence and going far beyond some of these little quibbles. And ultimately with the goal of just not having those people in our community and continuing to go further and further. You made news is the first openly bisexual candidate elected to the Spokane City Council. As we talked about, there is a vibrant conservative movement, MAGA movement. This is the land of Matt Shea and others who agree with him. How do you address people who are trying to limit the rights of others, limit the ability of others to just live their own lives and be themselves and not bothering anyone else - but are being targeted by people in the community in everything from banning books to banning drag shows to targeting just the way people can live their lives. How do you address that and how does the council address that? [00:35:53] Council Member Zack Zappone: Yeah, it's definitely something out there. I know during my campaign, there was - on the same day, there was a bomb threat at Planned Parenthood and a arsonist at the Democratic headquarters on the same day. And I'm - I go to Planned Parenthood for healthcare, reproductive healthcare, and I'm - Wow, I feel really targeted as a candidate. And last year during Pride, first - one, public - I'm in the Pride Parade and we're getting intel beforehand about issues that might come up and we're getting contact from the state about that. And it turned out it was all Idaho, but we're still here at the frontline and I'm - I'm gonna be up on stage, I'm in the parade, and I'm an out elected official here. I feel a little targeted about it and sometimes do. And we have people come to City Council meetings and they're protesting the rainbow crosswalks and telling us it's a giant waste of money and stuff. And so there are definitely these issues of - we're at the forefront, like I said earlier - you mentioned, in Matt Shea country, and that definitely exists. We just last week had students at a local high school in the Valley that were arrested for threats made towards LGBTQ students in their school that were actionable, and a Snapchat thread of a hate group. And so there's some scary, scary stuff out there. But I also wanna focus that it's not all that way. There are a lot of out and proud people and safe communities here in Spokane. The high school that I teach at - the principal has a Pride flag in her office, and this is the high school I attended. And when I was in high school, I knew one person who was out. And now we have vibrant clubs for LGBTQ students. We have - during a conference for our freshmen coming in at the beginning of the year, just asking them - Why'd you transfer to this school? What was it? And they're - We heard that this was the best school for LGBTQ students and it was a safe, inclusive space. And that is super heartwarming and felt incredible to hear. And so there is a lot of great people doing great work around this. Like you mentioned, I am the first out person elected. We had one appointed 20 years ago, and one person came out in office a couple minutes before she left office. So I'm not alone, but I do think it's about continuing to make your presence known. And there is some of that representation that is important and that's why we passed - the first community crosswalk needed to be a rainbow for Pride, to honor that and making that to be known. And there's also the history around painted crosswalks really starting with LGBTQ community and painting rainbows and so there's a lot of history there too. But we're looking at it - as a city, have gender affirmative healthcare that we implemented this last year that - we were already moving that way but I kept pushing the needle, making sure that it happened. And so there are white supremacists and they're very close to us and they're real threats, and they're showing up at community centers and hate flyering neighborhoods. But if you come to Spokane - you West siders, it's not what most people see when they come here. It does exist, but that exists in every community and I think that's a reflection of 2016 and Trump that a lot of these people feel more emboldened and more aware. I know when I was running, I talked to the former Council Member who was appointed in 2001 about what it was like to run as an out candidate. And he said, It was very overt back in 2001. People just emphasize - family and here's my children and my straightness - but it wasn't like ever overt. And he cautioned me and said, You know - I think people are more emboldened now, so be aware. And I actually didn't experience any of that in my campaign - no hate - never really came up in my campaign and I think that was remarkable. I actually ran against another queer person in my primary. Right now in 2023, we have two more queer people who are running for city council in my district. And we're not the South Hill - people are like, What? I was like, Yeah, we're the gay district apparently. So I think people are feeling there is more representation, there's more ability, but there is always more work to be done. How do we do that? I think is always a good question. We have centers - in graduate school, I had a friend who mapped out incidents of hate and hate crime across the country and mapped it with organized groups that combat hate. And he mapped this across the whole country and found that Spokane was the second area that had the most incidences without the most resources. You would think it'd be the South, but they actually have a lot of resources in the South that are combating it. And we don't really have these institutions. We have a couple - we have Human Rights Commission and the other human rights group that I can't remember the name, that's Human Rights Task Force. And those are incidents of reporting hate and crime and going after it, but it's continuing to represent that, speak out, and not be afraid either. I think that's a key part - is that we still have to represent and not be afraid. And create policies that are more inclusive of all people. And so at City Council, we created an equity subcommittee and are actively trying to recruit different ways to have people from impacted communities represented in giving their voices, we're creating navigator programs to try to reach out to more communities and networks. And trying to show that here at the City and the government - we care about you, we care about your opinion, we care about your experience - and getting people with lived experiences on more advisory committees and groups. And we're trying, and there's always, always more work to be done. [00:41:22] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. I thank you so much for taking this time to speak with us today, to let us know a little bit more about what's happening in Spokane, and we're certainly gonna stay tuned to see how things unfold. [00:41:34] Council Member Zack Zappone: Yeah, well, thanks for having me and always come out and visit. We got some great stuff going on. [00:41:38] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. I am actually a fan of Spokane and will definitely be back out there. There is a ton to do in Spokane, so yeah - you are a Spokane evangelist and have successfully - have many converts. [00:41:52] Council Member Zack Zappone: Thank you. [00:41:53] Crystal Fincher: So much appreciated. Thanks so much, Zack. [00:41:56] Council Member Zack Zappone: Thank you. [00:41:56] Crystal Fincher: Thank you for listening to Hacks & Wonks, which is co-produced by Shannon Cheng and Bryce Cannatelli. You can follow Hacks & Wonks on Twitter @HacksWonks. You can catch Hacks & Wonks on iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts - just type "Hacks and Wonks" into the search bar. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get the full versions of our Friday almost-live shows and our midweek show delivered to your podcast feed. If you like us, leave a review wherever you listen. You can also get a full transcript of this episode and links to the resources referenced in the show at officialhacksandwonks.com and in the episode notes. Thanks for tuning in - talk to you next time.

In this episode, Sujani sits down with Krysta McKenna Luzynski, a district epidemiologist at the Virginia Department of Health. They discuss gaining perspectives on different healthcare systems around the world, the responsibilities of a rural epidemiologist, and McKenna's experience working through the COVID-19 pandemic. You'll LearnHow McKenna found her way into public health through a youth leadership camp and an interest in healthcareHow the pandemic has altered the public perception of public healthWhy McKenna chose to pursue higher education abroad to gain new perspectives on public healthHow her experiences abroad impacted her career opportunities back homeA brief overview of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine's MSc in Public Health programWhat a day in the life of a rural epidemiologist looks likeHow working in a rural setting differs from urban settings and what unique challenges may ariseMcKenna's experience working through the COVID-19 pandemic and what she has learned from itWhat skills are essential to succeed in applied epidemiologyMcKenna's goals and where she hopes to take her career in the futureToday's GuestA native of Roanoke, VA, McKenna Luzynski is a magna cum laude graduate of Furman University with a Bachelor of Science in Public Health and Spanish and a minor in Latin American Studies. She attended the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine for her Master of Science in Public Health. McKenna has been employed by the Virginia Department of Health as the Senior District Epidemiologist for Southside Health District since October of 2019. Additionally, she serves on the Board of Directors for VCU Health Community Memorial Hospital. McKenna resides in South Hill, VA.ResourcesFollow McKenna on LinkedIn Learn more about the National Youth Leadership Forum: Medicine program Learn more about London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine's MSc in Public Health program Support the showJoin The Public Health Career Club: the #1 hangout spot and community dedicated to building and growing your dream public health career.

Dr. Bekki Ellis Williams Dr. Bekki Ellis Williams practices in Spokane, Washington at Clear Chiropractic. They have two locations, and right now, she's at the South Hill location.BACKGROUND: Dr. Ellis Williams has wanted to be a doctor since she was five years old because she wanted to help people who were sick and suffering. Her mom suffered from migraines. She also wanted to be a teacher, and the true definition of a doctor is to be an educator. She wanted to educate people on how they could live better life. She studied biology in undergrad but wasn't sure what she wanted to do. When she graduated, she decided to take a year off and study for the MCAT.. She got a job as a nanny for a chiropractor and also worked in his office 2 days a week. HER OWN HEALTH JOURNEY: She had dealt with back pain since middle school. Yoga helped to relieve pain. Every doctor she'd ever been to just said, "Oh, you'll grow out of it, don't worry about it." Now that she knows, she should have been under chiropractic care right away. Kids with pain become adults with pain. She had her first adjustment when she woke up with a kink in her neck one day and couldn't move it. The chiropractor she worked for made an adjustment, and later that day, the kink was gone. Later, with X-rays, she found out that she has an extra vertebra in her lumbar spine. They had been adjusting her and making it worse because she had had this anomaly that no one had known about before. She tried a lot of different things, then once she got under upper cervical care and had her neck adjusted, her back pain went away.CAREER JOURNEY: After working at the chiropractic office for just a few months and volunteering in an ICU, she decided not to go to medical school but instead go to chiropractic school. She started school at Life Chiropractic College West in the Bay Area, California. There are over 200 different techniques, and they teach 12 of those there. That's where she found upper cervical.WHY UPPER CERVICAL AND DCCJP: Dr. Ellis-Williams says this about upper cervical care,” There are so many different things that happen when you get your neck adjusted. Better posture, the neurology that happens, the pain receptors, there's just a myriad of things that happen in the body when we get our head on straight. Your body is so, so keen to know exactly where your head is in space. If we can make sure that that connection is happening, we can increase or decrease all of the, basically the alarm signals that are going off. When your head isn't on straight, there are alarm signals going off everywhere, and wherever is taking on stress, that area is where you're going to hurt. One analogy for that I had in chiropractic school that I really like is when you step on a cat's tail; it's not the tail that screams.”You can find Dr. Bekki Ellis Williams, DCCJP here : South Hill2503 E. 27th Ave.Spokane, WA 99223(509) 315-8166Contact Dr. Ellis WilliamsTo contact Ruth, go to https://www.blairclinic.comruth@blairclinic.comhttps://www.facebook.com/rutelin

We've enjoyed brunches at the Bistro at La Tourelle for many years, and this week 14850 Dining is checking out the new dinner service atop South Hill. The cafe at the south hill inn moved a year and a half ago into the classic farmhouse vacated in 2020 by the closure of John Thomas Steakhouse, and in addition to breakfast and lunch or brunch seven days a week, they're now open for dinner Thursday through Sunday. https://www.14850.com/013130067-dining-bistro-la-tourelle/ Subscribe to the 14850 Dining Podcast in Apple Podcasts or Google Podcasts, YouTube, RadioPublic, Spotify, Audible, or RSS Feed, or follow 14850 Dining on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter or sign up for our newsletter.

They.. Are.. Back Again! Hermie and Senator Stanley (with their “plus one,” Party Time Entertainment's and South Hill's very own town councilman Shep “Burn Pile” Moss), come out swinging with great conversation and tons of laughs in their first episode of the 2023 Leaning Right and Turning Left podcast season, with special guest, former state Senator and current Executive Director of the Virginia State Police Association, Bill Carrico! In Hermie's “Turning Left” moment, Sadler and Stanley open the first hour of the show by having an in-depth discussion about racing, and the upcoming southern modified (SMART) tour with Sadler/Stanley Racing's new team of drivers for the 2023 season, NASCAR® Hall of Famer Bobby Labonte and NASCAR® Legend Ryan Newman! Former Va. State Trooper Bill Carrico weighs in with his memories of providing police security for the races at Martinsville during the glory days of racing, and they discuss the state of racing as the new season approaches. Then Shep, Stanley and Sadler wrap up the first segment with a hilarious conclusion to the “LRTL Weight Loss Challenge for Charity” that the trio started before the holiday season. Be prepared to laugh out loud as these three do the final weigh-in to determine who lost (or more likely, gained) the most weight over the holidays, and which charity gets the proceeds of the wager that they made of who would lose the most weight – the results will surprise you!! And in the “Leaning Right Moment,” the Senator, Hermie and Shep talk with Sen. Bill Carrico about the current state of Virginia politics and the 2023 General Assembly Session, the status of Hermie's current campaign for state senate, hilarious moments when Sen. Stanley and Sen. Carrico sat next to each other on the floor of the Virginia Senate, and they set out what they think is in store for the future (and future safety and security) of the Commonwealth. For all your men's grooming needs, look no further than our sponsor www.manscaped.com, and when you place an order for their awesome products, enter promo code “Sadler” at checkout and received 20% off your order, and get free shipping anywhere in the world!! For more information about this podcast, and Hermie and Bill's open-wheel modified race team, Sadler/Stanley Racing at www.sadlerstanleyracing.com, or visit their Facebook® pages (Leaning Right and Turning Left Podcast, and Sadler/Stanley Racing). If you need a lawyer, contact Bill Stanley at www.vastanleylawgroup.com And don't forget to Save With Conrad, at www.savewithconrad.com ! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After a burn injury, burn survivors often face both emotional and physical pain that can make moving through trauma difficult. Following her burn injury, Octavia Burney's husband decided to find her a furry friend to focus her attention on while she recovered at home alone. Marty, Octavia's dog, became a great companion and aid in working through her trauma, and later, became an inspiration for her children's book, Marty. Octavia shares both triumphs and tribulations with her recovery and how she overcame the fear of showing her scars.  In this episode, Octavia shares her burn injury story, reads an excerpt from her book, discusses becoming a mother after a burn injury, and much more.  About Octavia Burney Octavia Burney is an author, burn survivor, poet, business owner, and speaker. She has over 15 years of experience in healthcare and infectious diseases. Originally from South Hill, VA, she grew up in a single-parent home with 4 sisters and 1 brother, she is the youngest of nine siblings.  She released her first book in February 2019, “The Storm Saved Me” where she shares her testimony and how her faith in God pulled her through. She is working on her master's in mental health counseling and professional writing. She believes faith, courage, and creativity equal excellence.  Resources from the Show Get your copy of MartyRead The Storm Saved MeVisit Octavia's Website Follow Octavia on Social Media: Instagram, Facebook, and YoutubeRate, Subscribe, and Review Phoenix Society's Girls with Grafts PodcastCheck out additional content here: Phoenix Society's Blog or View Our ResourcesCheck out Phoenix Society's Burn Community BookshelfConnect to Receive Peer SupportPurchase Your Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors & Girls with Grafts Swag Our Sponsor A special thank you to our Season One Sponsor, Pritzker Hageman. The Pritzker Hageman burn injury legal team helps burn survivors and their loved ones pursue compensation and justice throughout the United States. If you have legal questions, the attorneys at Pritzker Hageman are ready to help. Find out more at LegalJourney.guide  Enjoyed the show? Tell us on social media using hashtag #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors! 

Vie Athletics is a POWERHOUSE in Washington State -- it's a female only strength training facility that has a captivating culture and a cult-like community. They've already taken over this state by opening gyms in Seattle, Gig Harbor, Tacoma, Puyallup, South Hill, and Bonney Lake... And now, they're expanding OUT of the state by opening their first out-of-state gym in Chandler, Arizona. But there's more to this story because the founder and owner of the gym, Amber French, is the mastermind behind this company who has simply created something unique, special, and unbelievably powerful. Which is why we wanted to get her on the show, so that she could share her journey with us and teach us what it took for a female entrepreneur to create something so powerful. You can find all that Vie Athletics has to offer by heading to their site: https://vieathletics.com/ OR following them on instagram @vieathletics —- To Apply For Coaching: Click Here Download The Tailored Trainer: Tailored Trainer Sign Up Page To Get Your Questions Answered On The Podcast: Ask Us Here! Download 1 (or ALL) Of Our FREE GUIDES: https://www.tailoredcoachingmethod.com/guides Giant Lifting Equipment (10% Off With Code “TCM10”): GiantLifting.com 1st Phorm Supps: https://www.1stphorm.com/tailoredcoachingmethod To Get Cody’s Amazon Recommendations, Click Here —-- Timestamps: (7:05) - VIE Locations (10:50) - Limiting Class Sizes To Tailor The Customer Experience (14:20) - Knowing Your Brand And Who You Are (17:05) - Meaning Behind VIE Athletics (18:00) - Reason For Starting Female Only Gym (22:30) - Evolution Of Woman Exercising (25:15) - Male vs Female Training Programming (28:15) - Functional Bodybuilding (31:30) - Performance Elements Within VIE Athletics (34:35)- Alternatives To Personal Records (39:40) - Lead By Example To Create A Culture (43:15) - Creating Brand Longevity (44:45) - Building VIE While Raising A Family (45:50) - Facing Fears Of Being An Entrepreneur (48:30) - Being Confident and Following Your Calling (52:45) - Steps In Building A Business (56:15) - Not Sacrificing Quality for Quantity (57:25) - Always Being The Center Of The Business Hierarchy (1:01:35) - Speaking What You Want Into Existence (1:03:02) - Amber’s BIG Vision (1:12:35) - Where You Can Find Amber And All Over VIE Content (1:15:30) - Advice For Young Entrepreneurs —- Social Links: Blog – http://www.tailoredcoachingmethod.com/blog
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This week we talked with our comrade from China, Southhill, about the CPC, life in an existing socialist country, and much more. Thanks so much to comrade Southhill for joing us! Chen Yun Selected Works (English) Volume 1: https://archive.org/details/selected-works-volume-1 Volume 2: https://archive.org/details/selected-works-volume-2 Volume 3: https://archive.org/details/selected-works-volume-3 Red Than Dead discord server: https://discord.gg/XtNpt3dR4C China's law on election https://m.baike.com/wikiid/3312576699786783954 The meme: https://ibb.co/QMX50mz

Ithaca College Football Head Coach Mike Toerper joins Second Floor Sports to talk about coming back to the South Hill, throwing out the first pitch at Yankee Stadium, and more! SFS: Follow us on social media here: Twitter: @ben_carlton1, @matias_weilmann, @2floorsports Tik Tok: @2ndfloorsports Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D-LoMTbvx4&feature=youtu.be AD: Download the free Anchor app or go to Anchor.fm to get started on your own podcast! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/secondfloorsports/support

The HermieWorld Tour Bus makes a pit stop at the Sadler Travel Plaza in South Hill for a comical discussion with Sadler, the Senator, and Hermie's friends, Shep Moss, and Greg Thrift. Listen as Hermie and Greg go back in time when they tried to solve the O.J. Simpson murder case while they were in California and almost get arrested while driving Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson's Cadillac in Florida. Senator Stanley uses his “Leaning Right Moment” to discuss the upcoming Governor's Budget Amendment Session, closing of a dog breeding facility that sold beagles for scientific experimentation in Virginia, and the importance of politicians following the Republican Creed. In two new segments, the boys first roll out “Hermietology,” where Sadler gets to expound on his knowledge and philosophy of the topic of the week, and they dive into “Hermie's Answering Machine,” where Sadler and Stanley respond to voice mail messages left by the listeners on the “Leaning Right and Turning Left Podcast”Facebook page. Just like Shep and the Senator (but not Hermie), you'll love this episode so much that you will not want it to end.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There's something romantic about old neighborhoods and old cities.  The House in South Hill is written and narrated by Ian Epperson The narrator's wife is played by Shelby Scott Jacque is Nate Dufort Editing and sound design by Josiah Knight Music by Caleb Ritche Assistance from Brooke Jennett and Bridgett Howard Visit our sponsor Athletic Greens at Athleticgreens.com/thirteen You can support the show and get benefits for doing so at Patreon Find Scare You To Sleep on Apple and Spotify Find Nate at My Neighbors Are Dead, Unspookable, and REACH: A Space Podcast For Kids Find Thirteen on social media at: Facebook, Twitter Tiktok and Instagram Merch is available through TeePublic here Email us with any questions, comments or story submissions at info@thirteenpodcast.com Check out Imaginary Comma for all things spooky, eerie, scary and horror CONTENT WARNINGS Child death

On this episode Joshua sits down with Robin Allen with Robin Allen from Birdies Pimento Cheese to discuss about the company, the products , where you can buy them, and the production of GOURMET PIMENTO CHEESE. It started with a simple tub of pimento cheese. When Robin Allen was growing up, there was always some in the fridge, and since it was easier to eat a spoonful of pimento cheese than to make a sandwich, she chose it for her go-to after school snack. She didn't think much about it, other than sneaking a few bites between playing outside and maybe doing some homework. It was only in July of 2014, as Robin was about to turn 50, that she saw an opportunity to make and sell her own pimento cheese. No strangers to entrepreneurship, Robin and her husband Glenn (you can call him Bubba) had owned their own printing business together for 25 years. They were good at it, and they enjoyed working together. A revitalization grant brought a farmers market to the Allen's home of South Hill, Virginia; and soon after catching the market bug, Robin and Glenn came up with a plan to sell three flavors of pimento cheese--just for one day--at the market, just to see what it was like. Turns out, they loved everything about it. The town of South Hill, VA paved a clean path for Robin and Glenn to get their pimento cheese inspected and their business established, and after that first day--making new friends over pimento cheese, feeling the thrill of the sale, and selling out all 30 tubs of cheese they had in stock--Robin and Glenn had a hunch that this might be their next life. A few months later, they sold the printing business and started making Virginia's pimento cheese full-time. Birdie's Pimento Cheese was born. Now they sell at farmers markets, festivals, breweries, and retail stores all over central Virginia and beyond.

Unique scenarios in football are inevitable. There are different football scenarios that occur during the game. When those situations happen, the team must adapt its play and react appropriately.   There are two approaches to this.  You can wait until they happen and teach based on that...OR you can start teaching those and make them a part of your team's collective Football IQ. On today's episode we discuss situational awareness in all phases of the game with Dan Swanstrom. Dan Swanstrom takes over as the OC/QB Coach for Penn for the 2022 season. Prior to Penn, Dan Swanstrom was been named the 10th head coach for the prestigious football program on South Hill. Swanstrom, a native of Texas and 2005 graduate of Rhodes College, joined Ithaca after previous stints at Pennsylvania, Johns Hopkins and the University of Redlands. During his time in Ithaca, they were ranked as high as No. 8 in the coutry. Prior to his arrival at Ithaca, Swanstrom was the quarterbacks coach and recruiting coordinator at Penn, which won back-to-back Ivy League Championships. During his time at Hopkins, Swanstrom began as a quarterbacks coach and was quickly promoted to offensive coordinator and then to associate head coach. Hopkins won five Centennial Conference titles while Swanstrom was on the sidelines. Four straight players were named the conference player of the year under Swanstrom. Shownotes: Influences Experiences as a player Margraff's list expanded Mayday One word short yardage No Free Lunch Late substitution Straddle return Working to understand rules Increasing competitive intelligence The winning edge Full Clinic: https://bit.ly/38lHP4V Episode with Rob Ash https://soundcloud.com/user-804678956/let-them-score-coaching-analytics-and-in-game-strategy-rob-ash-championship-analytics-inc

Our topic of discussion this episode is one that is a tough subject to cover. Rape is a horrific crime, that can happen to anyone. It leaves very long lasting effects upon its victims. From the years 1978 to 1981 women in Spokane were being terrorized by a rapist who was held unchecked. The media didn't report it until well after a year of the crimes beginning. The police didn't have the funding, the manpower or the resources to handle catching this criminal. But it only takes one lucky lead to make or break a case. That lead finally came for detectives when a certain car was spotted multiple times in areas where the assaults had occurred.Frederick “Kevin” Coe, or Coco as his mom nicknamed him, was the unlikeliest of suspects, yet when those who knew him learned of his arrest, no one but his family thought him innocent. It is assumed that Coe was responsible for over 40 rapes, but who knows how many untold victims he has left in his wake. The women who survived his attacks are survivors in every sense of the word. We wish them well.This is the sordid story of The South Hill Rapist, Kevin Coe. Info from this episodeHistory Link Essay by Jim Kershnerhttps://bit.ly/33UwsP9“Just lay back…” Was this a misquote?https://bit.ly/3ItoUSpIn Coe's own wordshttps://bit.ly/3GR0W2PRuth Coe couldn't let her son have all the funhttps://nyti.ms/33ANmSZAfter the appealshttps://bit.ly/3IlSQjePossibility of releasehttps://bit.ly/3IlSQjeCoe Committed to McNeil Island Special Commitment Centerhttps://bit.ly/3AhEA8ihttps://bit.ly/3GSvrpohttps://bit.ly/3qLWtcchttps://bit.ly/3rwOMpwThe passing of his parentshttps://bit.ly/3rCKtZNhttps://bit.ly/3FMuXjeThe conviction that stuck: Julie Harmiahttps://bit.ly/3tQdGmKA Look Backhttps://bit.ly/3rzFcCdBook Review on Son: A Psychopath and his Victims By Jack Olsenhttps://bit.ly/3AhHYzW

In the late 70's and early 80's, Spokane, and in particular the south hill neighborhood was terrorized by monster. A monster who was attacking women and young girls as they were jogging or getting off buses. The city was in a complete panic.____________________________________________________________________________________________________________We LOVE our Weirdlings! Thank you for your support! -Emily, Lindsey & Tori Where to listen, how to connect with us, links to our socials and MORE: www.Linkt.ree/threesacrime Like the show? Support us on Patreon! bit.ly/3tnuOOp Buy us a coffee! bit.ly/3fKH4CyFor photos related to this episode check out our instagram: instagram.com/threesacrimepodcastMusic by: BLVCK CEILING: bit.ly/3BR8kbHHave a spooky story to tell? Email us and we might feature your story in a Listener Lore episode! threesacrime@gmail.com Discount Codes:BarkBox : Barkbox.snlv.net/KeXmznSuperChewer : Superchewer.snlv.net/LPmB2j Buzzsprout : buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1903473Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, we may receive a commission at no additional cost to you.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/threesacrimepodcast)

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Listen to us talk about driving in the snow, Frosty the Snowman, Scamper the Penguin, cartoon food, Christmas movies, Jingle All the Way, Veggie Tales: The Toy That Saved Christmas, Polar Express, I'll Be Home For Christmas, The Nightmare Before Christmas, South Park Christmas episodes, Mr. Hankey the Christmas Poo, getting or giving gifts, Turning Red, foxes, Colby's tiger, small cats, Mick's apartment, goulash on tap, and the return of Robot Wil. Starring David Parker, Landon Browning, Mick Parker, Wil Dobratz, and Colby Chapman. Recorded December 18th, 2021.

On today's episode, Jonathan and Sy discuss why we need to rethink the amount of attention we give to white people's opinions, the danger of not knowing what white people think, recalibrating our thoughts around Jesus' views, and a lot more. Thank you so much for subscribing! Articles mentioned during the episode: * Our response to the Kyle Rittenhouse case * Jonathan's essay on suffering and what happened to his home during Hurricane Ida  Shake the Dust is a podcast of KTF Press. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Find transcripts of this show at KTFPress.com. Hosts  Jonathan Walton – follow him on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.  Sy Hoekstra – follow him on Twitter.  Our theme song is “Citizens” by Jon Guerra – listen to the whole song on Spotify. Our podcast art is by Jacqueline Tam – follow her and see her other work on Instagram.  Production and editing by Sy Hoekstra. Transcript by Joyce Ambale and Sy Hoekstra. Questions about anything you heard on the show? Write to shakethedust@ktfpress.com and we may answer your question on a future episode. TranscriptSy Hoekstra: Hi everybody, it's Sy with a couple of quick programming notes before we get started with this bonus episode. You're about to hear a conversation that Jonathan and I recorded on Twitter Spaces. So this is a live conversation that we recorded. If you want to be notified when we're going to be recording anything else live and listen into that process, maybe answer a couple of questions or comment or whatever, you can follow us on Twitter. You can follow KTF Press or Jonathan @ForeverFocused, or me @SyHoekstra. Also just later in the episode, I am going to interrupt because while we were making this live recording, I told a story that had a factual error in it.  I'm going to jump in and correct myself because even though I got a couple of the facts wrong, the point that I was making was one that we wanted to leave in the podcast. So I'm just going to explain the story with accurate facts when we get there. It's when I start talking about Charlie Kirk, and you will hear those little piano sounds that you're used to when we're transitioning in between things on this show, and I will come in and explain what I got wrong just so we're giving you accurate facts because we want to do that. Finally we recorded this conversation before the acquittal in the Kyle Rittenhouse case, so we do mention the case without mentioning the outcome.  If you want our thoughts on that case, we will link to the post that we put up the afternoon that that verdict came down, and you can read what we had to say about that. Also, Jonathan mentioned another article of his during the episode that I have also put in the show notes. So you can read about his thoughts on Hurricane Ida and suffering and the nature of suffering and kind of his different reactions to suffering and theology and theodicy, based on kind of where he grew up in the church tradition that he comes from. And now I will leave you with Jonathan doing the usual cold open to our episode. This is Jonathan talking about Jesus's invitation to us to love and suffer for our enemies. So the episode officially starts now.  Jonathan Walton: It's important who the invitation comes from. And for Jesus being someone who has scars in his hands and in his feet and in his side from the state, it changes the invitation. I think when someone makes an invitation and has been willing to incarnate themselves into that type of suffering, it's a transformative invitation. [The song “Citizens” by Jon Guerra fades in. Lyrics: “I need to know there is justice/That it will roll in abundance/ And that you're building a city/ Where we arrive as immigrants/ And you call us citizens/ And you welcome us as children home.” The song fades out.] Sy Hoekstra: Welcome to this special subscriber only bonus episode of Shake the Dust, Leaving Colonized Faith for the Kingdom of God. It's been a little bit since we've talked to you. Hello, this is Sy Hoekstra as always, here with Jonathan Walton. We are here to talk to you a little bit today about an intentionally provocative question, do we have to care what white people think? So, but before we get started, really quickly, since you're all already subscribers, just please do remember to follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter at KTF Press, and to give us a rating and review on whatever podcast app you're listening on.  Also please remember to follow or subscribe in your podcast app. All those things are really, actually, honestly, very helpful to us, and we really appreciate when you do them. Okay. Jonathan, let's get started with this question today. What… Let let's just first, like I said, a little bit of an intentionally provocative question. Why are we asking this question? Why is this question important?  Jonathan Walton: Yeah. I think we're asking this question because we come back to it regularly in kind of indirect ways. So for example when we watched the news. If Steve Bannon says something, if John Piper, an evangelical pastors says something, if a criminal is doing something, race matters. Like who they are, what they represent is very important in the United States, because of our history and our context and also the impact that it has on people who are part of dominant culture. That means white is the assumed norm, and anything other than that is abnormal, even subjective, or is subject to that. So in the DEI space it would be called dominant culture versus subordinated culture. So I think it is always a question. So one of the things that people say is like, “Oh, is this about race?” That comes up a lot, and I think the answer is always, “yes,” and we just need to change that to the default. Sy Hoekstra: Or at least race is always a background of any question you're talking about in the western context.  Jonathan Walton: Yeah, exactly. Right. Sy Hoekstra: Or in most contexts actually. Jonathan Walton: Yeah. I mean, I think it's, if we are crossing cultures, race becomes part of the context because of colonization and capitalism having reached every corner of the planet. Sy Hoekstra: And we're almost always crossing cultures at this point in how our society works. Jonathan Walton: Yes. Exactly. And I also think, for people who are listening on spaces or listening to this podcast for the first time, we want to be a space where we are speaking across difference. So you may not be able to hear, Black folks who listen to me, obviously know that I'm Black. But you may not know that, so I'm Black and I live in New York City and Sy is blind. So I try to understand his background and perspective, but I also understand I'm speaking across a dominant different. I'm an able-bodied person and the authority and reality that he speaks from, I actually need to submit and listen to and do the work to understand, so he doesn't have to do that work to constantly explain. So I think… yeah, go ahead Sy. Sy Hoekstra: I was going to say ditto for me and you when it comes to race. I have the same kind of perspective on the stuff that you say. And we have another cohost, when she isn't taking care of an extremely small baby, who is a woman. So we try and listen to her on those, on like gender issues as well. I think what you just said Jonathan, is actually, that point you just made is important. Because if you're white and you're sort of offended by the question that we're asking, then the reality, I think, that you need to grapple with, is that this is a question that most nonwhite people have to grapple with on a daily basis. You may not be aware of that. You might not believe me saying that, but it is something that is a very broad experience that we just need to realize is a question that other people are asking. And I think as far as whether someone's offended by this question or not, that's probably all we're going to say on this subject [laughs]. I think the other important point, is that racism and white supremacy in our culture exaggerates the importance of what white people say. In particular, not just exaggerates the importance of it, but allows a lot of white people who are not experts in a whole lot of subjects to speak on those subjects in an authoritative manner. And I think we just need to explicitly say and confront the fact that whiteness is kind of considered default objective neutral. Especially when you're talking about issues of race, but when you're talking about a lot of things really, and the people, anybody else is kind of seen as too emotionally invested or biased because of their position, but white people are not biased because of their position. So that's, I think that's kind of my answer to why we're asking this question, is we need to recalibrate how important we think white people's opinions are [laughter]. Because obviously look, I care about at minimum what one white person thinks, which is me [laughs].  I like to think that Jonathan cares a little bit about what I think, so he also cares about at least one white person. You know what I mean? Like we're just trying to drastically decrease the level of authority that just comes with someone who looks and talks like I do. Let's talk about the question of how much do we have to care about what people think from the angle of it's actually dangerous not to care about what white people think. What do we mean by that?  Jonathan Walton: Yeah. I think being Black in Southern Virginia growing up in a segregated space, the only time my mother talked about race was to warn me. That was the only context in which she brought up what whiteness was and who white people were. Sy Hoekstra: Can you give an example? Jonathan Walton: Absolutely. So When I, when my first book came out in high school, so I wrote my first book of poetry when I was 17 years old.  Sy Hoekstra: Like One Does. Jonathan Walton: Yes, Like One Does. Another podcast. But shout out to all the Black mamas who sacrifice so much for their kids to do things. Sy Hoekstra: For real. Jonathan Walton: So we were in my elementary school, school office, and I had my book out. As I would normally do, I would just have a backpack full of them because people would see me around town and want to get one or buy one, and that, they just knew. This was 2001. So there… or 2003. So the reality was like there wasn't a bookstore within 50 miles in every direction of the house that I grew up in. So people just gave on this… so selling CDs out of the back of your car, I sold books out my backpack. So my mom asked me if a specific secretary had seen my book and I said, yes. And when my mom walked into that lady's office, she put the book on the table and acted like she wasn't looking at it.  I said, “Mom, that was really weird.” She goes, “I'll tell you about it later.” And the reality is her husband is in the clan. So she's like, “Hey.” Like she does not want me to know that she, that some way it might get back around to him, that she was interested in what I was writing and reading and being, and engaged in it. Sy Hoekstra: Oh, but she was interested. Jonathan Walton: But she was. Oh, absolutely, because white people always are. They always are. The reality is Black folks don't buy hip hop. The majority of consumers of hip hop, pre streaming and things like that, like CDs were bought by 70 to 80 percent white suburban America. So it's one of those things where like Black culture can be consumed, Black culture can be used and appropriated. Sy Hoekstra: But it's taboo. Jonathan Walton: Yeah. But like actually appreciating using and all that stuff is definitely not, definitely a problem, you know? So another time we'd be like, whenever my mom would ask me about where I was going, I was a soccer player. Soccer is a white sport in the United States. So she would always ask, “What street are you going to?” There's a place in South Hill called Chaptico Road. There are very few, if any Black people, on Chaptico Road in the town that I lived in. So the, just the awareness of where I was, was, particularly around the people I was going to be around, was always about safety. So yeah, that's how it came up. Sy Hoekstra: So big picture for you, this question is not like a theoretical one. It is not something about principles or ideas or how society should work. It is about where Pauline Walton told you to go to play after school. Jonathan Walton: Yes. Sy Hoekstra: You know what I mean? It is a matter of like just the stuff that you have to know as a child to navigate your town. Jonathan Walton: Absolutely. And I'll tell you something else. That's hyper-relevant to me and you. Like before I came to New York City, I didn't know that Black people went to private schools. Sy Hoekstra: At all? Jonathan Walton: At all. Because in the south where I grew up, private schools were dangerous places.  Sy Hoekstra: The University of Virginia is where you went. Jonathan Walton: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry, sorry. No, no private school being like… Sy Hoekstra: Oh, high schools? Jonathan Walton: Yeah. When I went to college, when I came to college and someone said to me, “Hey, I went to a private school,” and they were Black, or “I went to a private school,” and they were white, that told me that they were racist or dangerous. That's what it was. Because I was like, “Wait, how did you get to go there? Because every school that is private that I grew up around, was built for segregation. And Black people did not go to Keniston Forest or go to Brunswick Academy or go to any of the other segregation academies that was built up at the time. So again, the concept of race and the conversation particularly around whiteness, was always about where we were supposed to go or we were not supposed to go. Yeah. Sy Hoekstra: So I think then for me, I know this is true for you too obviously, but for me it is more on the bigger scale, social, political questions. To me, the thing that I think of when I ask why would it be dangerous not to know what white people are thinking is, I don't know. Like a few, a couple of weeks ago, a video went around of a guy named Charlie Kirk, who some of you may or may not know, but he's an evangelical Christian, close ties to Jerry Falwell Jr. and Liberty University. He had a political action center named after him for a while until he went too far, kind of off the tracks for Liberty even, which is a little bit of a wild degree. But my point is he's like one degree of separation from very mainstream conservative evangelicals.  And he was at an event for an organization called Turning Point USA, which if you're… some of you may know them, some of you may not. But he got up during the Q&A and asked the speaker, he said, “We are living in a medical fascist state and a real fascist,” like “the government has turned into fascism.” He said, “So I'm going to ask you like a bit of a strange question, so just get ready for this. Here's my question. When do we get to use the guns?” Was his question. And a bunch of people were kind of surprised. Some people were clearly delighted that he was asking the question in the audience, and some people were laughing at him. And he says, “No, no, no, I'm serious. This is not a joke.  How many elections are we going to let them steal before we kill them?”  [Instrumental music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out] Okay, so here's where my mistake is. Charlie Kirk in this video is not the person who asked the question. Charlie Kirk was the speaker on stage. So the person asks all those questions, and then Charlie Kirk tells him that he's going to denounce what he's saying, and then he says, “But here's why,” and he explains. He doesn't say anything about the morality or the facts that the person has relayed. He doesn't dispute anything that he's said, except he does say that what they, and who ‘they' is, is kind of unclear. But what they want you to do, is that they want you to be violent so that they can then violate your rights.  So he says, you shouldn't be violent, because if you do, then this fascist state presumably is going to react harshly and take away your rights. To which the person who asked the question responds, “Well, they've already done that.” And then Kirk isn't really able to get through to him at all. Okay, so now I'm going to drop you back into the conversation. This is me again talking about, accurately, about Charlie Kirk.   [Instrumental music from “Citizens” by Jon Guerra plays briefly and then fades out] And he is, like I said, very close to a mainstream conservative Christian. He has, I cannot even tell you how many followers. He has a daily radio show. He's got tons of people following him on social media. This is a guy that people take very seriously.  And I think not knowing that that is where we are going, puts us… or not acknowledging that that is like where a whole lot of white people in this country are going, just leaves us vulnerable to a lot of danger. I think it left us vulnerable to not expecting or understanding how powerful Trump was going to be, and I think worse things are coming if you're not paying attention to that. So I know that's an incredibly depressing thing to say, but that's why I'm talking about danger here. Jonathan Walton: Yeah. I mean, I think because of the education that I have and because of the resources I now have access to, I can join that conversation because I have distance from it, right? Like my everyday reality is not as it was when I was a child. So now I can have that distance conversation and say, “Absolutely.” Like when Michael Flynn gets up and starts talking about one religion at John Hagee's church in Texas, in San Antonio this past weekend. Sy Hoekstra: Another recent viral video. Jonathan Walton: Yeah. Right? Or even actually when Trump, the great book by Kristin Kobes Du Mez describing and dabbing into that statement that he made of a church in Iowa, like if you follow me you will be safe. Right? Sy Hoekstra: You will have power. Jonathan Walton: I'm sorry, yes, you will have power. And understanding that there is like a vast ecosystem that feeds. Like I would argue that 80 percent of the United States that voted for Donald Trump that considers themselves evangelical Christian, which really is about 30 percent of the United States population. Because the United States only votes in elections at about 54 percent. The vast majority of those people are white Americans. The vast majority of those people that are the most committed, are also the most religious, that religion being evangelical Christian. So it's, those numbers work themselves out to a very large group of people that hold… Sy Hoekstra: Thirty percent I think is high. But it is a big, it's a solid chunk.  Jonathan Walton: Yeah. So in the chapter five of my book Twelve Lies that Hold America Captive, we break down, or what I talk about is democracy as a myth. And getting at the actual populations of people who vote and who's engaged with election and who holds the amount of power on campaign finance and things like that. What's interesting about it, is we have to understand what these people, what ends up mostly being, is white conservative people that hold a vast amount of sway over media and elections and things like that. To be able to understand like you were saying, what's coming.  And I don't think it's fear-mongering to say that it's dangerous, not because a vast amount of people will act, but because a large amount of people will not resist or be upset about or push back against the violent actions that happen, i.e. Kyle Rittenhouse, right? Like there are people that are okay with what he did. Sy Hoekstra: Yeah, absolutely. A large number of people. Jonathan Walton: They're not going to promote it. They're not going to say it's fine, but they're not going to be against it publicly because they are for it privately. And that I think is a dangerous, a dangerous thing. Sy Hoekstra: All right. So let's talk about Jonathan, to re-center us since this is, for the people on Spaces, a faith based podcast [laughter]. What are we talking about now? Like we have kind of some of the framework of why this is important. But let's get back to focusing a little bit on, where are the opinions that Jesus wants us to care about? What's the actual stuff that we are according to our faith, supposed to be paying attention to. Let's  just try and calibrate ourselves that way a little bit. Jonathan Walton: Yeah. So something, why do we care about what people, what white people think, is well, it's like, Jesus was as other from us as we could possibly get. He is divine, right? He is the son of God, prince of peace, king of Kings, ransom for sin, the one who brings Shalom. That's who Christ is, and he came to be with us, put on a body. And it is, it's an amazing thing to think that he would sit in a group of men, especially men like Peter and love them. Sy Hoekstra: Why especially men like Peter? Jonathan Walton: Men like Peter, so if we put the people around him, like Peter, well they're from the same space, like Galilee, right? But Peter is a rash, angry, irritable, impulsive person in scripture. Sy Hoekstra: Violent. Jonathan Walton: Violent. Yes, as well. And Jesus, the prince of peace, sits across from him and then says, I'm going to give you the thing that I'm building, and I'm going to come back for my bride, the church. I'm going to, it's going to be built on you. He sits across from Judas who wants to kill him. He comes into that knowledge of like, “Okay, I'm going to exchange this person for money.” He sits across from Simon the Zealot, who's angry for different reasons. But the reality is Jesus is sitting across from people who are carrying exceptional levels of difference from him and he loves them. So I think there is the fear side of what we're talking about, but the other side, there's a love portion of it.  And I think the reality is we, like people who are marginalized, followers of Jesus, have to love those people who are going to abuse and violate an exploit and capitalize, because Jesus did it. That I think is transformative. Jesus at the garden of Gethsemane, wanted these broken, impulsive men to sit up with him and keep him company. That to me, that God would desire deep relationship with us, experience comfort in our presence because we're there, right? Like that is, that to me I think is an invitation that is miraculous. That is transformative.  That I would be able to sit across from someone who's racially assigned is white and the United States, express a need for their presence and for them to meet me across the differences that are set up for us to, that we're socialized into. I think that is the flip side of the divine reason why we care about what racially assigned white people think in America.  Sy Hoekstra: And loving white people across the table like that does not equal agreeing with or supporting in any way, you know what I mean? Jesus had absolutely no problem with telling Peter when he was wrong. He made that real clear [laughs]. Jonathan Walton: Right. Sy Hoekstra: You know the same thing, obviously with Judas, right? That's not the quite, the question isn't do you support people? Do you let their violent or terrible instincts go? That's not a part of the interaction that you're talking about, right? You're talking about something very different, which I think is very cool.  Jonathan Walton: And ML, sorry, MLK actually said this. You could put it anywhere in the podcast, but he said to our, this is from his book or essay, The American Dream. He said, “To our most bitter opponents we say, throw us in jail, and we will still love you. Bomb our houses and threaten our children, and we will still love you. Beat us and leave us half dead, and we will still love you. But be assured that we will wear you down by our capacity to suffer. One day we shall so appeal to your heart and conscience that we shall win you in the process, and our victory will be a double victory. That right there is something, it feels other worldly to me in the culture that we live in. And it is not as bad from, in the seat that I sit in, as it was in 1963 when he wrote these things. Sy Hoekstra: I would also add one more, since we're on the subject of how much we care about what white people think, that idea that you just said from King, I hear not that quote, I've never heard that quote exactly, but ideas of nonviolence of just like, do things the right way like Dr. King did, and take your time with your little protests, and don't do it too quickly and blah, blah, blah. That coming from, that comes from white people, and it is very different for that idea to come from white people than it is for it to come from Martin Luther King. Who also said a whole lot of stuff to the white moderates that were trying to get him to slow down or stop or, you know what I mean? Jonathan Walton: Right. Right. Right.  Sy Hoekstra: So I think I want to draw that distinction because I think that's what makes that quote so uncomfortable for so many people, is that King, or Jesus asking you to do something like that is a whole lot different than me for instance asking you to do something like that. Or somebody who is opposed to any sort of protest or change telling you that you need to behave in that way. That you have to do that. So it usually comes up in response to when there is a, like building burned during a protest or something, right? That's when that sort of idea comes up from King, and I just, I don't know, I wanted to make that point.  While we're talking about what Jesus wants us to focus on, I also want to come back to a point that I made earlier, which was that a lot of times we see whiteness is the default and it's the objective. Like the people in power are the objective ones and the people who are not in power, the people who are oppressed or harmed, or just lower status in a society, as being the biased ones. And Jesus thinks, like never says anything like that, you know what I mean? There's no point where you're going to hear Jesus say, “Oh, this poor person does not understand how wealth operates. This poor person doesn't understand what economic oppression, how it works, because they're too biased because of their poverty.” He never says anything like that. “This person who's not a Roman citizen, doesn't understand Roman oppression.” Like you'll never hear anything like that. What you'll hear from him all the time, is how wealth and power and status makes you irrational. It makes you biased, corrupts your thinking, leads to more… leads to a higher likelihood that you're going to behave in an immoral way toward other people. So I just wanted to point that out, that a lot of the assumptions of the way that white people, white Christians think in America, is genuinely precisely the opposite of anything you're going to get from Jesus. Jonathan: Right. Like the love of money is a root of all evil, not the lack of money, right?  Sy Hoekstra: Right, yes.  Jonathan Walton: [laughs] Yeah. Jesus is amazing. Like it's, I feel like obviously that is, there are songs and books and all the things that talk about the Son of God, but there's, yeah. Things like that are other worldly. And they, and similarly to what you were saying before about who it comes from, like it's important who the invitation comes from. And for Jesus to say things like that, being someone who has scars in his hands and in his feet and in his side from the state, it changes the invitation. I think when someone makes an invitation and has been willing to incarnate themselves into that type of suffering, it's a transformative invitation, which makes the suffering worth it.  Otherwise it wouldn't, I don't think passages like, oh, we'll be perfected. Our faith will be perfected and suffering and things. Perseverance and all of that stuff, that makes no sense apart from a suffering savior.  Sy Hoekstra: Yes. Also the caveat to that is, that doesn't mean that you need to come up with immediate reasons for why you suffer and have an explanation and tie your little story up in a bow. Like people can still grieve and lament and be; like I know you know all these things, but there are so many people that hear that and think, “Oh, that means anytime I suffer, what the Christian thing to do is come up with a reason for it, and say, this is the reason that God told me, and now I understand it, now I don't care about the suffering anymore, because it was all worth it. The end,” you know?  Jonathan Walton: Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately I wrote about that with the essay about the hurricane: “I Don't Ask Why Bad Things Happen” [laughs]. And Sy, you, I think how suffering is viewed and how suffering is used in America, and in just like the colonized church kind of context is always something I think we have to ask: like “why this message now?” and “who is bringing it?” And that I wish we were free from doing, but it's just the context that we live in. Sy Hoekstra: Yeah. All right. So our last little subject here, how much do we have to care about what white people think given mental health, given exhaustion and that sort of thing [laughs]?  Jonathan Walton: Yeah. I was… can I jump in first? Sy Hoekstra: Of course. Yeah.  Jonathan Walton: I was having a conversation about this with a friend, and they said, Jonathan, but like, why do you do it? I said, “I do it because God said I had to.” I think that for me, it was a very specific explicit call. Like Jesus said, I will be on the bridge between the haves and have-nots; The poor and the rich; And physical and spiritual resources for those who want to go back and forth. That's what he said. Then in 2 Corinthians chapter 5, it says we have been given the ministry of reconciliation. That “he who knew no sin became sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God. Therefore we are Christ ambassadors.” And that passage to me, Jesus just blew open. He's like, “You got to be on that bridge.” So I do think it's a, we have to ask ourselves. And as we listened to Jesus and investigate scripture and live in community, it gets easier to hear him so we're able to respond more quickly. But we can ask God like, “Hey, should I talk with this person? Should I engage with this person?” If he says, “yes,” he will give us the inner and external resources to actually do the work over the long-term and the short-term. That when I get exhausted, it's usually because I'm doing work that I, that God did not tell me to do. God did not tell me to go change every white person I have a conversation with, or fix every man that says something terrible towards women, or correct every person who says something bad about disabled people. Or jump up every time someone says something for mass incarceration or the school to prison pipeline or climate change. He didn't say that. He did say I am to be his witness, and I literally have to grow in intimacy with God so that I don't burn myself out. If I tried to react and respond to every point of injustice that I notice or engage with every day, then I do believe that I would end up with some severe injury.  Like I would be, I would end up in therapy, as I am. I would be, I would experience more trauma than I have. And I believe that I would be being disobedient to Jesus. Like there is a call to Sabbath and I think Sabbath is also a part of our resistance, because we're saying Jesus is Messiah, not me. Like there's, I think there's something radical in the yeses to respond to injustice, particularly racism and responding to dominant culture in the United States, in this conversation about white people. And I think there's also a radical trusting when we say, “You know what God, I don't have the energy.” And that's okay.  Sy Hoekstra: To add on top of that, when Kyle Howard was on our show, he said, not everybody in fact is called to do that. Like not all Black people are called to the ministry of reconciliation, right? Jonathan Walton: Yes. Sy Hoekstra: And he was, he made what I think is a very good point, which is, he was just like, if you're not called to it, you don't need to do it. What you need to do is go have your freedom and your joy, because those are also things to which God calls people. And if you follow the things to which you weren't called, like Jonathan is just saying, you're going to burn out. Jonathan, I think that's all I had. Do you have anything else? Jonathan Walton: Yeah. I mean, the only thing I would add is like, Jesus is amazing. And I'm just like, if we… to sit and look at the life of Jesus, and there's lots of different ways to look at the life and ministry and death and resurrection of Jesus. One of the ways that feels like the most necessary at this moment for me, is I'm just wondering how he stayed in the room with these people, how he trusted these people, how he loved these people, these men, these women. Like, yeah, it is the, my, the awe and wonder of God that I have, it's just increasing as I think about Jesus inhabiting chaotic moments. Like it's just, yeah, that's all. I don't know if that really said anything, but I think… [laughs].  Sy Hoekstra: I appreciate it. I know that it's a kick that you've been on in particular. Kick is flippant, but it's something you've been thinking about a lot in your own personal discipleship and everything, and I do think it's relevant and I appreciate it. Thank you so much everyone for listening today. 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Bio: Elder Terence Walker Terence was born in Washington, D.C. where he spent much of his early childhood. He grew up as the only child to Dr. Sharon Peterson. She was determined to raise a successful son and often prayed that he would grow to be a man of GOD. They would eventually relocate and settle in Petersburg, Virginia. Terence grew up in a home that focused on the idea of being in church and living life according to the word of GOD. Terence would go on to earn a Bachelor's in divinity and another Bachelor's degree in history. He would also earn a Master's degree in Education while maintaining the status of Magna Cum Laude. He currently teaches in the Petersburg City Public school system. He is the State Secretary for the Men's auxiliary for the Virginia State Council Inc. of the P.A. W. In his local church, he is the Brotherhood President, Sunday School, and Bible Study teacher, youth leader as well as the Church Administrator. He works closely with his Pastor at New Beginning Apostolic Deliverance Church in the town of South Hill, Virginia. The gifts that GOD blessed Terence with were not initially embraced in the church. Terence would be one of the first gospel rappers in the tri-cities area. He would also be one of the first to introduce spoken word ministry into the church. Terence created one of the most unique ministries in the area called Praiz Poetry. He created a platform for those who had non-traditional ministries to come and operate in their gift. There are many testimonies of those whose lives were changed because of the anointed atmosphere of Praiz Poetry. Terence is also the founder of a men's conference called Grits-N-A-Bowl where his goal has been to re-introduce men all over the world back to GOD. Terence would go on to eventually marry one of his best friends in high school. Terence and Eunice have been married for 25 years and they praise GOD daily for how he has used their marriage to draw people to Christ. Their marriage continues to flourish. Every morning Terence rises up knowing that he is that new creature according to 2 Corinthians 5: 17. His life motto is an African proverb that says, “An elephant never limps while walking on thorns.” That is an example of a man whose steps are ordained by GOD. Duane Graham Foster Disciplined Information: Website: http://becomingdisciplined.com Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/becomingdisciplined Twitter: https://twitter.com/@path2discipline YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTWHSvpla2FwobDKDCYg3Uw Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/becomingdisciplinedonthegram Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Becoming-Disciplined-44621123926571

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Summer is ending, can you believe it? Jessica's family comes to visit from Italy, the dynamic duo breaks down their favorite places to grab a bite with the fam. To name a few; Bennidito's on the South Hill, Madeline's Cafe Downtown, Twigs, Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream, Gander and Ryegrass, Trailbreaker Cidery, The Davenport and Iron Goat (That Banh Mi Pizza Though!). Spokane Market Update! Median sales price nears 400k, average sales price breaks 400k, supply has been consistently low driving demand however supply is starting to increase. Is the market leveling? Tips given the market changes; Sellers: We recommend pricing your home aggressively. Buyers: Get back on the search, be present and ready as we see more price drops. Jessica finishes off her design series on a bedroom remodel; add rugs to warm up a space, get a bed that is a reasonable size for your space (with nightstands), avoid clutter, reduce space with a wall-mounted TV. Avoid matching all of your furniture, consider curating your pieces of furniture, mix and match items you already have in your house. Follow us on the socials by searching the tag @EvoReal or visit us online at www.EvoReal.com

Here's a question: What makes a haunted house spooky if you've never been there?  How scary can a haunted house be if no one has repeatedly investigated it?  In other words, what is more frightening, the honest anecdotes about experienced paranormal activity in a haunted location or the unverified legends and lore of a place that send the frights of our imagination into overdrive?  And what makes a house haunted?  Is it the house or land itself, the activities and energy of its inhabitants, or a reciprocal combination of both?  These are questions that would be apropos for tonight's subject, a house known as the Wilbur-Hahn manor in Spokane, Washington.  The craftsman-style mansion came to life in September of 1916, when the heiress to the Hecla Silver Mine fortune, Sarah Smith, married playboy Ralston T. "Jack" Wilbur.  Jack Wilbur had used Sarah's money to hire an eminent architect to build a three-story, seventeen-room house in Spokane's historied and tony South Hill neighborhood.  For the princely sum of $75,000, the estate, sitting on nearly four acres of land, flaunted imported marble, gold-leaf carvings, and mahogany paneling inlaid with mother of pearl brought from China.  However, the newly minted Mrs. Wilbur didn't fancy the home, and with this and other tumults in the marriage, Smith, and Wilbur divorced in 1918.  The following notorious couple to occupy the house was Rudolph A. Hahn and his second wife Sylvia, thirty-two years his junior.  Hahn purchased the manor in 1924 and spent $50,000 on additions, like a swimming pool and lavish gardens with fountains and statues, along with rumored secret panels and tunnels.  Obtaining a doctor's license through a correspondence course, Hahn made a fortune performing electroshock therapy and illegal medical procedures for Spokane's well-heeled.  The money, which some believe Hahn had stashed on the property, fueled his love of wild parties, fast cars, boats, and racehorses, much to the neighbors' dismay.  But the excess and extravagant lifestyle of this real-life "Great Gatsby" would eventually lead to his bizarre murder in a seedy hotel downtown known as The New Madison Hotel.  Perhaps it was the raucous, illicit activities and extreme emotions witnessed by the estate that imprinted somehow.  Reports of arguing phantom voices or boisterous laughter, vanishing bloodstains, shadow figures, the apparition of a woman at the top of the stairs, and even screams and mysterious noises heard by passersby are forever bound to the house.  The lesson of such an infamous place as the Wilbur-Hahn manor is that no matter how private any owners are, they cannot curb the spirits or the legend of a haunted mansion, and spooky is as spooky does. Visit our website for a whole lot more information on this website, and seriously, we're talking a LOT more.

Part 2 of 2 - Tom interviews Eowyn Sallis from the Rockwood South Hill Retirement Community located in Spokane, WA.  Tom & Eowyn discuss the various amenities available to residence with an eye towards helping seniors understand the importance of planning a head for your retirement years.Eowyn SallisDirector of Marketing2903 E. 25th Ave.Spokane, WA  99223T: 509-536-6701www.rockwoodretirement.orgwww.rockwoodatwhitworth.com 

Part 1 of 2 - Tom interviews Eowyn Sallis from the Rockwood South Hill Retirement Community located in Spokane, WA.  Tom & Eowyn discuss the various amenities available to residence with an eye towards helping seniors understand the importance of planning a head for your retirement years.Eowyn SallisDirector of Marketing2903 E. 25th Ave.Spokane, WA  99223T: 509-536-6701 www.rockwoodretirement.org www.rockwoodatwhitworth.com 

Brandon chats with David Love (Physical Therapist and Owner of In Touch Therapy in South Hill, VA) about an overview of spinal thrust manipulation talking about what is happening when a joint is popped, does the pop matter or not, debunking common myths about manipulation, who tends to respond best to manipulation, safety considerations/risks, and much more! Neck Manipulation Clinical Prediction Rule Article  Lumbar Manipulation Clinical Prediction Rule Article Cool Video Visualizing a Real Time Joint Pop Jeff Moore on Neck Manipulation Risk  PTonICE Podcast on Manipulation  Roger Kerry's Research on Vascular Safety Thrust vs. Non-Thrust Study Article on Predicting Adverse Effects from Neck Manipulation   For questions and feedback regarding this episode/request a topic please email us at brandonpoen@gmail.com    InMotion Physical Therapy Company Website InMotion East End Facebook Page InMotion Facebook Page   Clinic Information East End Clinic Address: 5711 S Laburnum Ave, Richmond, VA 23231 Phone: (804) 447-5355   West End Clinic Address: 3001 Hungary Spring Rd Suite d, Richmond, VA 23228 Phone: (804) 756-8490

This episode of the podcast features the host, Kelly, solo, speaking about her upbringing in the south and her journey towards starting the Ground Shots Project and Podcast. Find the FULL transcript for this episode on our Patreon page, here. This episode of the Ground Shots Podcast is a first! It's me, Kelly, the podcast host, speaking solo about my upbringing in the South and how it plus other experiences I've had into adulthood, influenced the creation of the Ground Shots Project as an ecological art project, and the Ground Shots Podcast, a ecological storytelling project featuring guests from all over. I start off the episode speaking a bit about where I grew up, and some of my basic experiences in the enviroment where I was raised. I grew up in southern Virginia, and I even linked my hometown in the shownotes if you want to get a glimpse. I go into how my life evolved into adulthood, studying Philosophy formerly, working on organic farms, studying with herbalism teachers, and my general influences. I talk about how I originally started traveling, though there is so much more to the story than what I tell here. I speak about how my time farming, walking the Camino de Santiago, spending time with my grandmother as a child, and meeting people on the road, influenced the creation of my project. I answer some questions posed by folks who submitted them on Instagram about my project and relationship with plants, travel, connecting to place. A note: we now have a phone line where you can call the podcast and leave messages. PLEASE leave us one! If you do, you give us permission to potentially broadcast your messages on air. If you can, please give us verbal permission when you leave a message. I'm excited about this! I produced this episode entirely on my own this time, with a new program I'm trying out. It's not perfect, but I'm playing around and seeing how it goes. So, if it sounds different in any way, this is why! Also, I got a new microphone, so my voice is clearer than in the past recording from my computer. If you have a comment, question or inquiry based on what you hear in this episode, feel free to shoot me an email, comment on the blog post for this episode or call our podcast phone number and leave a message.   Links: Kip Redick on CNU talks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcXeIgyMUoo Tao Orion (quoted at the end of the podcast): https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/beyond-the-war-on-invasive-species/ Frank Cook's work: http://www.plantsandhealers.org/ Chestnut School of Herbal Medicine: https://chestnutherbs.com/ Goldenseal Sanctuary in Ohio where I interned: https://unitedplantsavers.org/center-for-medicinal-plant-conservation/ My hometown on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Hill,_Virginia Call the podcast and leave us a message (you give us permission to potentially air it on the podcast, please be sure to also give us verbal permission): 1-434-233-0097 Support the podcast on Patreon to contribute to our grassroots self-funding of this project.  Support the Ground Shots Project with a one time donation via Paypal at: paypal.me/petitfawn Donate to the podcast on VENMO: @kelly-moody-6 Donate to the podcast on Cashapp: cash.app/$groundshotsproject   Our website with backlog of episodes, plant profiles, travelogue and more: http://www.ofsedgeandsalt.com  Our Instagram pages: @goldenberries / @groundshotspodcast Join the Ground Shots Podcast Facebook Group to discuss the episodes Subscribe to our newsletter for updates on the Ground Shots Project Theme music: 'Sweat and Splinters' by Mother Marrow Interstitial Music: “Rainbow Waltz” by Cody Fielder Hosted by: Kelly Moody Produced by: Kelly Moody  

Mountains in the Sea is husband-and-wife indie electropop duo made up of Phil and Angela Lamb. The pair will sheepishly tell you they met online on Facebook through mutual friends in 2011, and after a long distance (like, 3,000-miles-long) whirlwind romance, they married and settled in Spokane, WA. But music was always a part of their story. Several musical projects and two babies later, the pair finally felt they found their sound as a duo when they began writing for Mountains in the Sea in early 2018. They also are members of five-piece indie rock band The South Hill.     Links to guest: https://www.instagram.com/mtnsinthesea/?hl=en https://www.mountainsinthesea.com/pages/links https://www.facebook.com/angela.grace.lamb   Connect with us on Mommispace! Instagram | Facebook | Merch | Email   If you like t