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Phil Demers joins me outside the gates of Marineland for this episode- a return to a conversation we began seven years ago at the Fox Theatre.Back then, we were fighting to pass Bill S-203 to end whale captivity in Canada. The law passed in 2019.Now, the fight is to save the remaining 30 beluga whales and 500 other animals who remain trapped inside as the park has ceased to exist. At one point, recently, Marineland even threatened to euthanize the whales if governments didn't provide emergency financial support.Phil “The Walrus Whisperer” Demers was a trainer at Marineland turned whistleblower. He spent over a decade fighting Marineland in court after leaving his job there in 2012. After 13 years of legal battles and public advocacy, Marineland is finally on its last legs. But the fight to save the remaining animals isn't over.We discussed what happens next, short-term and long-term solutions, and why governments should lead on this instead of playing only a reactive role.Chapters:0:00 Standing Outside Marineland6:21 Why China Might Actually Be Better10:04 The Sanctuary Myth & Rescue Reality14:08 30 Dead Whales18:13 500 Forgotten Animals19:30 13 Years of Legal Hell24:37 Conclusion: The Divorce AnalogyRead further:The Walrus and the Whistleblower - Documentary (CBC Gem) https://www.cbc.ca/documentarychannel/docs/the-walrus-and-the-whistleblower7 years ago with Phil: Transcript: [00:00:00] Nate Erskine-Smith: All right, well, welcome to Uncommons. It's an interesting episode because I'm joined by Phil Demers, who actually joined me at the Fox Theater many years ago, four years ago before we started the podcast actually. And it was just a, a local town hall event. We showed Blackfish. Right. And you were there to talk about your experience as a whistleblower at this horrible place behind us.[00:00:19] Uh, it is interesting how far we've come, but also that the issue is so acute still. Uh, at the time we were talking about a bill that had to be passed. To end this kind of production and make sure we were protecting institutions in captivity. And you were adamant we had to get this bill passed. Hmm. Well we got the bill passed.[00:00:37] Yeah. And yet we've got marineland, uh, beside us now, and it was grandfathered through in a way. And now we've got 30 beluga whales. We've got 500 other animals that are, that are in here. Mm-hmm. And all of which, all, all of whom need to be saved in, in, in one way or another. And, uh, it didn't [00:01:00] have to come to this, really did it.[00:01:02] Phil Demers: Well, we've, what, what has glossed over in much of, of your story is we've got a unwilling marine land in all of that. Yes. To evolve in any way, shape or form to be a, financially viable, uh, you know, for the security of their own future. Uh, but b, to adhere to any of the laws that we essentially passed, both provincially and, uh, and federally, although we did ban the breeding of the whales. Yep. Had we not banned the breeding of the whales. So, so currently there's 30 belugas remaining. There's four dolphins. Uh, we got two sea lions and a, and a host of, uh, land animals there. Had we not banned the breeding of belugas in 2019?[00:01:41] Nate Erskine-Smith: Yep.[00:01:42] Phil Demers: And albeit, the pregnant belugas of 2019 were grandfathered in.[00:01:47] So there were some whale birth births there. On average, Marineland had five to seven belugas born per year. A couple would die. But there's, you know, it's conceivable to say that whereas [00:02:00] we have 30 right now in there, we would have had an excess of 50. Right. They would've kept probably 60.[00:02:05] Nate Erskine-Smith: Yes, of course they would've kept the business model broke down with that law.[00:02:08] But if they would've kept going otherwise, I mean, they're, they were the bad actors. It's the, it just wants to keep it active [00:02:12] Phil Demers: At this point. It's the only, it's the only part of the law that they've, ad they've adhered to outside of importing, of course, which, which, uh, we ban. So it's, it's beyond their control, but.[00:02:21] Um, you know, the breeding, they, they stopped, but had they not, we'd be talking about 50 to 60 whales in those tanks. It, it was, uh, you know, that's something to really hang our hat on. That was a huge, uh, and super progressive, uh, lawsuit. But it does interestingly, take us to this place now where marine land is, you know, we essentially bankrupt.[00:02:39] I, but we should stress owns a lot of land sitting on 700 acres of prime land meant to fuel or feed the, uh, the whole family trust. That's, those are the heirs to it. You know, the operation is essentially sucking the money out of that. And so they're looking for the, be it most lucrative or least expensive [00:03:00] way to get outta this thing.[00:03:01] The sale to China was to be a profitable one. Uh, should be stressed that here in North America, none of the facilities wanna do business with marine land, right? A few years ago, five belugas were sent to Mystic Aquarium, three of which died within weeks and months. Uh, all having to do with, uh, preexisting conditions from Marineland.[00:03:20] Nate Erskine-Smith: So, so pause, pause for a moment. ‘cause I think for those who are listening, they may not know you've got 30 belugas here. And there was, uh, a deal that Marine Land wanted a broker, at least with a facility in China. Ocean Kingdom time, long Ocean Kingdom. The decision of the federal minister was to say no animal welfare first.[00:03:41] Uh, the primary purpose here is entertainment and, and we're not convinced that they're gonna be putting animal welfare first. Akin to the concern here, right? And, and why we don't want this to contain to exist. But then the knock on question why is so acute right now is okay, but then what? Because marine land comes out as proper monsters. They say, well, if we don't get emergency funding, we're gonna, we're gonna euthanize these whales,[00:04:05] Phil Demers: which is a familiar theme with Marineland. In all of my years of dealing with them, it was always do this or else. Uh, again, I I, this morning alone, I watched a, a YouTube video. It was pretty.[00:04:14] Pretty thorough history of marine land and in it is always the familiar threat of, well, if you don't do this, I'm gonna, and it includes ship the park to the, to the US that includes, you know, a whole host of things. But that's all, that's marine land's bluster when it, they don't get their way right. But that said, the, the spirit of the law was to give, uh, to give final say to the minister so that they can ultimately consider the interests of the animals in it, which is a level of personhood, which is not.[00:04:39] Which is atypical of most laws, especially of animals.[00:04:40] Nate Erskine-Smith: Of, yeah. Yeah. An incredibly important step. Yeah.[00:04:43] Phil Demers: Really, really, uh, progressive, you know, the spirit is to end captivity and, you know, and if you can stamp that out here, the, the idea is that it, it's, uh, it'll evolve to the rest of the world. And to be fair, uh, France adopted a very similar law recently passed, [00:05:00] uh, as well as, uh, new South Wales.[00:05:02] The province in Australia adopted a law. It's actually picking up around the world. So, so it's, you know. I always stress when we, we look at, hey, we wanna end captivity, I always stress that's a hundred year, that's a hundred year fight. If all goes extremely well, you know, you've got burgeoning business in China, some in Russia, right?[00:05:20] And we're still ending sort of ours here, sort of choking that off here and that's still expanding there. So, you know, we've, we've started something that's gonna continue elsewhere, but you know, it's gotta end here. It's gotta end here first and ending.[00:05:33] Nate Erskine-Smith: You can put a law on the books and, okay, so. Uh, on a going forward basis, you, you might avoid problems and, and avoid cruelty, but you still have 30 belugas here.[00:05:44] And then the question becomes, well, what happens next? And, and I don't wanna pretend that it's just a marineland problem because you were just, uh, commenting on the fact that in Miami you got seaquarium that's now shut down, that this is going to happen in other places too. Well of Mexico just banned it.[00:05:59] Phil Demers: [00:06:00] And now all of their animals, now captive and legally captive can no longer perform in shows, can no longer do the swim with programs, et cetera, et cetera. So what happens is it becomes unviable to the owners. They lose their incentive, their incentive to have and use these animals. So what becomes well, unfortunately, in, in, in my estimation of what is available to us.[00:06:20] Nate Erskine-Smith: Yeah.[00:06:21] Phil Demers: You know, I'd always had hope that the much of these animals would go to the us, but it's not gonna happen by way of a broker deal because again, none of ‘em wanna touch marine land for obvious reasons. Again, I, I mentioned the five whales that died at, uh, mystic.[00:06:33] Nate Erskine-Smith: Yep.[00:06:34] Phil Demers: They also know of the bad PR.[00:06:36] Marine land's been getting here for the decades. I mean, it's been global news, you can't ignore it. So SeaWorld also had to sue Marine Land a number of years ago to get an orca back. So SeaWorld doesn't wanna touch marine land, so I don't think. Anyone in the US wants to associate with buying animals off marine land or brokering any type of deal affiliations, et cetera, et cetera.[00:06:54] But you know, I'd had this hope that this government, the provincial [00:07:00] Animal welfare society, especially with their policing powers and their ability to seize animals. You know, you have, you have essentially an opportunity to seize these animals and send them to these places, whereas those places might be receiving of them if they're by way of a rescue versus of, of a broker deal.[00:07:15] But again, this is me talking, theorizing, trying to figure this thing out. [00:07:19] Nate Erskine-Smith: But let's imagine that so, so the federal government. Has done its part in passing the law. I, I think the federal government could play a strong convening role here. And, and we're starting to, I mean, in the wake of the minister turning down those permits, uh, to, uh, ocean Kingdom in China, I mean, uh, there is a role for the federal government to show some leadership here, but the actual law, the power that you're talking about, the seizure power that exists, provincially, provincially, and you got Doug Ford over here talking about caring about dogs and okay.[00:07:46] I, I like that. Okay. Yeah. Let's, let's have concern for, for all animals. Uh, but in this particular case, as soon as Marineland says, well, without emergency funding, we'll euthanize them. They should be coming in here, seizing and using their authority. And, [00:08:00] and, and by the way, I mean even as part of, uh. Uh, I was reading, uh, as part of the settlement back in 2017 and driving the lawsuit.[00:08:07] I mean, they agreed to monitoring. I mean, like, what are we even talking about here? Have animal welfare experts, animal science experts. Well, they're in there. They're in there. And why, and why can't, and then why can't Doug Ford sees these and say, now we can broker a deal with the animal welfare top of mind instead of marineland trying to extract top dollar.[00:08:25] Phil Demers: So in the think tank, that's become, since all of this and the Yeah. You know, sort of the, where does this go? I do have to say with limited options, China might be atop the very best options. And let me explain why if those animals were in a neutral place right now. Just let's just, let's just do this as like a, a sort of a thought, uh, uh, experiment if this animals were in a neutral space right now and yet to elect where they're going.[00:08:49] Yeah. Outside of the laws themselves, which is, you know, for the most part, it doesn't exist in China. That I, that I know, I don't wanna be quoted, but I don't know what the animal, uh, oversight and, [00:09:00] and, and laws are like over here. But we know what they are here. Yeah. And we know that they exist here. But that said, they're not really do serving so, so much.[00:09:07] Uh, these days, if there was a choice between the facilities, it'd be hands down, you'd be sending them to, to China. It wouldn't even be a question. There wouldn't even be a question. These are brand new facilities that massive I had. A team member was there two weeks ago, a a, a former, uh, friend of mine that worked at marineland Works there.[00:09:24] These are brand new massive, expansive facilities, the conditions of which are good and in fact maybe even be said to be great in the realm of captive facilities. I don't want to be a defender of any facility. I don't wanna say, Hey, that's a good one, but what, on the scale of, you wouldn't consider this for a moment, but because they're in there, it becomes a little bit more complicated because it's a question of, of removing them, but.[00:09:48] Because of the limited space of where those animals have and being against the clock, they're gonna have to go somewhere. And, uh, again, I stress the us I ideally, first and foremost, if it doesn't work out [00:10:00] there, or if, you know, obviously they don't have the space for 30, we know this already, some are gonna have to go to China[00:10:04] Nate Erskine-Smith: So let, let's walk, let's, I, let's take some time to walk, walk through those options. Because again, some people might say, well, why not return them to the wild? We've seen the consequences of that in, in, in some ways. You, uh, in, uh, there was a return to, uh, facility in, in, in Iceland at one point, I think in.[00:10:24] So, well, that's not, that's not gonna work. And so there, there are just knock on challenges to, to that option.[00:10:28] Phil Demers: There is no such thing as a perfect scenario. Also, that needs to be stressed because I think we're, we're, and we have been wasting a lot of time and thought on what would be perfect. Right? And it doesn't exist.[00:10:38] We have to scale that. Our expectations back to what is. And, and also stress that these animals are not very healthy. Now, I'm not gonna call them sick. Do we know? Do, is it Well on a, on a scale of the, they all, they're all unwell by virtue of the conditions that have been here.[00:10:58] Nate Erskine-Smith: But do, uh, is there that [00:11:00] openness with, uh, say.[00:11:02] Uh, nonprofit or, or government experts and, and animal scientists who have access into properly not a chance.[00:11:09] Phil Demers: And, and for that matter, anything that you would've access to look at would be changed,[00:11:12] Nate Erskine-Smith: right?[00:11:13] Phil Demers: So, so anyone that has a pen and, and putting it to paper has an interest in some people not knowing everything that's going on.[00:11:20] Nate Erskine-Smith: So Wildes out and then you've got, uh, wild is out and there have been proposals. For animal sanctuaries, there's one in Nova Scotia that, that is, that is closest to realization. No. Uh, having spoke well, having spoken to the, the folks there, they said, well, the earliest is really next fall. And that's an optimistic timeline.[00:11:38] And, uh, and then you're, they're talking about a max of taking 10 of the whales, which today, in the environment that we exist, uh, doesn't seem like the most plausible option when you want to protect these animals and, and put animal welfare in their animal interest first. Today. So, uh, the answer does, you know, first it's just who's the decision maker?[00:11:59] And it can't be marine land that is deciding what the deal on the table should be.[00:12:03] Phil Demers: Well, clearly they're not, they don't make the decisions in the best, the best interest of the Yeah, exactly. Just to stress the point of the, of the whale sanctuary in Nova Scotia. I wish it more than anyone to be an operational place, but it's not.[00:12:13] I've gone, it can't be, it's not going to be. Its decades and hundreds of millions. And who's foot in the bill? This is. A theory at best, and we got to move beyond theories or else what happens is people start hanging their hats out. People start talking, talking, talking. But the specific needs of those animals, and that's outside of a perfect world, if we're gonna have a sanctuary for animals, that has to be tried.[00:12:36] In the best cases, not in one of duress and, and emergency, et cetera. It's, this is an experiment for the most part, but those animals need to get a access. So we're talking about a, uh, this monster sanctuary, but did they, in all of that, go through the what is required to actually care for these animals?[00:12:53] You need a, a rising floor of a tank to be able to access sick animals so that you can give them, uh, medication, et cetera. You gotta be able to [00:13:00] access the animals, but an animal's sick in the middle of your sanctuary. How are you gonna get them? And get them on a, on back to the shoreline, back into a tank where they can be monitored and then, you know, be given drugs and et cetera treated.[00:13:12] And you've got the, the challenges that these animals already face is just outside of the scope of what an experiments at this point can offer. Right? These animals need facilities with people that know where to inject The animals know where to draw blood, know, you know, they got the book on the meds and they got access to those animals because that's essentially what they need.[00:13:32] When we're talking about what the. What's happening here? It's essentially a rescue and it's, it's how it needs to be framed. It's how I've always said it. And again, I I'm, I'm sounding like a broken record because I've been saying this for a decade, and if you read it, it's, it, I don't think I've done a single interview in the last decade where I said, if we don't get those animals out, they're gonna die.[00:13:50] And, and, you know, it's easy to say, well, of course they're all going to die if they don't move. But you know, if you watch. At the rate that I was saying it and the rate that the animal [00:14:00] started to die, we're talking about a scale that's grading up and speeding up and accelerating. So 30 animals have died there, essentially.[00:14:08] I, I know it's in the records as, as 2020 whales, but you know, if you add the three that died at Mystic as being marineland whales, right. If you add the, uh, while we know that in the, in 2019 there's an affidavit that Marineland sworn of having 58 beluga whales. But we know that they would've pregnant ones.[00:14:27] So five to seven more born there. Deduct those numbers. ‘cause they're, they're no longer in that inventory. Um, you've got 30 whales that have died essentially since about 2018. More than 50 since I quit, which will have been 60 or more if we hadn't have passed the, the breeding bin. Nothing here is new.[00:14:55] Marine land's, bluster, et cetera, et cetera. You're finally hearing their actual voice. You're not seeing [00:15:00] the jingle on tv. You're not seeing them talking about their, their animal welfare record and, and boasting it as the best in the world. You are seeing the, the people here have seen the marine land, the, the real marine land for the first time.[00:15:09] Yeah.[00:15:09] Nate Erskine-Smith: Big difference between everybody loves marine land and we're gonna kill the whales if you don't gonna sip on. Right. And this is a, this is a theme I've known for far too long because, you know, they don't like me. But, uh, so just to close the, close this, uh, what's on the table? It could be on the table.[00:15:24] So. You've got, uh, sanctuaries talked about promising in the longer term, potentially [00:15:30] Phil Demers: Well, if, and when that exists, the belugas hopefully are alive no matter where they are in the world to one day be received there. [00:15:36] Nate Erskine-Smith: Right, right, right.[00:15:38] Phil Demers: There's so there if they're alive, which we have to stress.[00:15:39] Nate Erskine-Smith: And so, but in the immediate term, uh, you're looking at, in an ideal world, when it's not an ideal world, uh, you've got the premier acting, you got the provincial government that would seize. Control in order to make decisions in the best interest of the animals, you've got a situation where then you would survey what's available across North America and [00:16:00] and elsewhere and say, we're gonna proactively reach out and try to place these animals, putting animal welfare interests first.[00:16:07] Phil Demers: And if I was negotiating those moves, I would say any re, any facility that receives these animals. Have to adhere to the spirit of the 2019 law. Right. Which is, and I think North America would, would be glad to adhere to that. They already generally do. I don't think they're breeding belugas. Uh, you know, most of these places have their own, despite it not being law, they're sort of in-house no longer breeding.[00:16:27] Definitely orcas that I know of, hopefully dolphins one day, but we're, we're not there yet. Uh, but that, yes, so with the caveat that, hey, if we can follow this, you know, it should be noted that. The spirit of of S two S 2 0 3, which is the law that passed, was that we're, we're gonna eradicate captivity in Canada.[00:16:44] Sort of the idea was, you know, we're gonna end this situations of captivity. And well, with the idea of that globally, this build had this, this effect. But that said, these animals who are already here, sadly, and with, with zero to minus zero option of ever being returned [00:17:00] to the wild, and I hate to be this voice.[00:17:04] But if they go elsewhere, it may very well spare some live ones from being captured. And that is in the spirit of the law. So there is some salvation in this ending in Canada. The animals moving on to better places. Yep. And no more whales ever returning. And that practice being said and done, and we wash our hands of it.[00:17:24] And that's the biggest win that can be done. The noise of our bullhorns out here. Follow them to the next place. They'll hear us out there. The fight continues where they go. That's, that's the reality. We got a hundred year problem ahead of us if everything goes well. [00:17:43] Nate Erskine-Smith: And let's talk about the other animals.[00:17:45] I mean, you are known as the walrus whisperer. You didn't start fighting. Just for the whales. I mean, you were fighting for the walrus smooth. She, and there are an estimated, what, 500 other [00:18:00] animals? It's a lot of deer in there. Yeah. And, uh, and so is that also part of the picture here? I mean all obviously the public focus has overwhelmingly being on the whales, but, uh, what do we do with the other animals?[00:18:13] Phil Demers: Well, that I know of, the Toronto Zoo expressed some interest. They were visiting the facility in early October. Those animals are likely destined for, uh, I mean, ideally, some sanctuaries that we know do exist. They, there are some, yeah. Um, the bison are already gone. No one seems to really know where there, there's theories, but they're gone.[00:18:37] Uh, the bear, they that they're gonna have a tough time because bears are, are solitary animals. They shouldn't be confined to a tight space anyways. It's already really, uh, antisocial and dangerous for them. It's like a really unnatural environment. And so the coat is sort of stunted and no place is looking for a bunch of bears.[00:18:53] So, you know, I'm, I won't be surprised if a lot of them get euthanized very quietly, uh, and, you [00:19:00] know, the deer, 500 deer or so, what are you gonna do with that? So, I, I don't know. Again, I, I, I leave this to, you know, I, I'm, you know, I've had my sort of, I, I got a decade plus of fighting against this place.[00:19:14] That's the extent of my knowledge of animal rights. And a lot of people come to me and say, Hey, this, this, and that. I'm just like, uh, talk to an organization that knows this stuff.[00:19:23] Nate Erskine-Smith: Right. So they, I mean, the last time we spoke, uh, where we were, we had an audience in front of us.[00:19:30] Yep. Uh, that's, that, that you were still Yeah. Yeah. You were still deep in litigation where they were taking you on and trying to silence you. Mm-hmm. Uh, I mean, it's interesting, you know, you've come to animal rights, but also, uh, you've. Really been, I think, uh, uh, you've, you've shown what it is to be a whistleblower in a, in a, in a publicized important way.[00:19:53] And the, and the importance of whistle blowing protections despite the fact that they came after you with everything they got. And, uh, where [00:20:00] is all of that at now? I mean, you've, uh, uh, before we started recording, you're talking about smooshy ended up where, so we[00:20:07] Phil Demers: essentially, you know, so they sued me in 2000, early 2013 for plotting to steal smooshy the walrus.[00:20:12] Yep. You terrible verse you and I could have done it, but I didn't. And it had nothing to do with Marine le, but if anyone could have done it, but I wasn't going to, you'd have to be crazy. And much as they tried to make me out to be crazy, uh, you know, I, there's some percentage of crazy, but it's not, not to the scope of what they had described in this lawsuit.[00:20:31] So, you know, it was baseless. It, it did inspire antis, SLAPP legislation, uh, provincially, which was great. It didn't help me, but it's, you know, it, it's there for the future. It's important.[00:20:40] Nate Erskine-Smith: Yeah.[00:20:41] Phil Demers: And I also stress when you, when you say, you know, you did, you, you were a whistleblower and you know, we, we, we passed a, a host of different sort of whistleblower protection laws and everything.[00:20:49] I, this wasn't an animal rights issue. It, it, this was an animal rights issue when I left. It wasn't animal rights. It was a, here's what I've experienced and if something [00:21:00] doesn't happen to this, this, this, these animals will, you know, their suffering will increase. Tell you, I know me suddenly being sued.[00:21:07] Like these were, these were my friends, these animals and, and the employees. This is like, these were, you know, you're gonna see your neighbor's dog like that and you walk ‘em every day. You're gonna have some concerns. Like, so this was that for me. It spills over into an animal rights realm, of course, because animal rights, people who had, you know, to their credit, been fighting this forever, suddenly, you know, I, I show up, but you know, to be fair, I'm not really an animal rights guy.[00:21:31] She was your friend, smooshy. Yeah, of course. Right. That's of course. But I'm just, when it comes, those you love mistreated when it comes to the history of, and what is. The box of animal rights activists, which I get very often. It's like, no man, it's just, it's not, that's not really what this was for me.[00:21:49] What this was, was, let's say, professional a*****e versus semi-professional a*****e. And it was a clash of all crazy proportions if you weren't witness to it. I, I could only [00:22:00] imagine how much fun it was on the sidelines. I mean, I, I, I, I like to do it up for the people, put on a show, and we did. Uh, but that's what this was, this was every corner.[00:22:08] This was a fight. Tooth and nail in every aspect and element of every which way of my life outside of that, of the animals. It was a, it started as an animal thing and it's taken on an entire other, uh, entire, entire other, uh, uh, level. [00:22:24] Nate Erskine-Smith: But, but with that said and taken over your life, I mean, uh, well, the litigation and just the, I mean, all of that takes an incredible amount of toll and time[00:22:33] Phil Demers: I would not have imagined when it happened that.[00:22:36] That this was going to be like the most forever decision. I, I'll be honest, and this is ambitious and in retrospect, super naive of me, but armed with the truth at the time, I thought in my mind, this is gonna take six months to resolve the, again, my objective was not, let's shut marine land down six months.[00:22:53] Well, what did I know about litigation, about anything? I just thought, well, listen, if the people know, well, not even the people. I thought if the, [00:23:00] if the authorities knew the, you know, if they knew, and here they were here, it was, they knew. And that was like the beginning of my journey. And here I am 13 years later and it all wholly and entirely reshaped into a, a pretty efficient marineland busting machine.[00:23:19] Like it's, it's been a pleasure. But, uh, but yeah, there's an element of almost, it's a weird one and, but I, I almost chalk it up to what retired NHL players might. I feel like when they, when they're so engaged in something that, that, that requires so much energy and, you know, like, and, and levels of execution and like, you know, you really gotta psych yourself up for some of the s**t I've been through now I'm trying to take a breath from it all.[00:23:48] Then we got this thing going on still. You're like, ay, ay. So no, it turned into, i, I guess what will be a decade long, uh, life identifier. It's become. [00:24:00] You know, I'm, I'm kind of married to this place now.[00:24:02] Nate Erskine-Smith: Right, exactly. And, and, and you live through personal challenges and then coming after you legally and then all of that.[00:24:11] But you, you, I mean, you, we stand outside this place today and it's, you're gonna out survive it. You know? This is on his last legs. And it's, uh, in a, in large measure the law we passed in large measure the public outcry and large measure because you were able to shine a light on it and, and called attention is something that was wrong.[00:24:32] Phil Demers: It kind of looks like a divorce and now we want the kids[00:24:37] hard to, hard to find a home for the kids. That's the problem. Well. But here we are. Uh, but again, exactly, I, I, I do stress. I think that all of this will be revisited by the feds because there is gonna have to be some extra consideration give to the immediate conditions. Yes. As just this, the extent of, of how awful all of this is.[00:24:54] Should other things be considered first? Yes, I think so too. I don't think marine land should stand on, uh. [00:25:00] Hey, do what we say or, or give us money and this and that[00:25:03] Nate Erskine-Smith: No. They've, they've found their way to profit. It's a, they should care for the animals.[00:25:07] Phil Demers: It's a, it's a breath of fresh air to not to see nobody caving because, uh, Marineland has known that for too long.[00:25:12] Yeah. Uh, but, you know, so there, there should be a, a very diligent work done as into what can be done for these animals. But, you know, given the fact that we are super limited, I think there's gonna have to be some reconsideration. To the Chinese facilities. It just is. It would be great if they came with the caveat of don't breed them and don't do this.[00:25:32] Maybe that could be negotiated. I don't know.[00:25:35] Nate Erskine-Smith: But I think, uh, and I think it's useful to close here. I mean, in the end, in the same way that, uh, you've got individuals including yourself who have shown leadership. I mean, at this moment in time, we need governments not to react, not to say, well, it's our job to review a permit, or it's our job to review.[00:25:51] If there's a complaint or there's an investigation to say, no, no, no. We are gonna proactively find a home for these animals. We're gonna proactively pull the stakeholders together, [00:26:00] together, pull the organizations together across North America and elsewhere. Say it's not a perfect world. So what exists here?[00:26:06] What what is possible, and to, and to show some leadership and, and to not just react and to try to solve the problem in a proactive way and not leave it. To these guys who are not intending to solve the problem at all and are didn't want the law passed in the first place.[00:26:20] Phil Demers: They've proven themselves as being irresponsible caretakers.[00:26:24] It's time for other people to have a hand in what becomes, and uh, you know, they may not like it, but they've set the stage for exactly that. So now other people will have a say. [00:26:33] Nate Erskine-Smith: Appreciate it[00:26:34] Phil Demers: Anytime This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.uncommons.ca

Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*:https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LAPLATICA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount  This week on La Plática it's the crossover episode of the Spooky Season as The Cruda Corner finally joins Josh and Sebas! They talk all things friendship, bad sex, and more as they sip on cocktails curated by the one and only Ernie from Liquid Courage. If you wanted to start your week with a good laugh, you've definitely come to the right place.  Catch Josh and Sebas at the final Live Show of the tour!

So much to ponder, so little time! The Boily Pops are back with an all new episode where they cover all the important topics like what happens when we pass away, what their death row meal would be, and why Bad Bunny's Halftime Show announcement has people PRESSED. Josh and Sebas also announce a giveaway for the final show of the tour - may the odds be ever in your favor! Catch Josh and Sebas at the final Live Show of the tour!

Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*:https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LAPL... Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Happy Monday Mahh Ehh! This week on La Plática Josh and Sebastian reflect on their recent episode with Desi Perkins, the amazing conversation they had, and what they would do differently next time. After that, the guys tried their hand at one of the viral games being played on TikTok. Do they know each other as well as they think they do? Stick around and find out!

Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*:https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LAPL... Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount  The collab you've been waiting for is finally here - Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Desi Perkins! The icon/mom/businesswoman/powerhouse got real with Josh and Sebas about what makes her happy these days, how she manages being a full time mom, a full time entrepreneur, and a full time content creator and somehow still finding time to design sunglasses for THEE Beyoncé! Talk about inspiring af.

Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*:https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LAPL... Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount New Players play $5 and get 500 Casino Spins on Huff N' More Puff. Get 50 Spins/day for 10 days. Sign-up using https://dkng.co/laplatica or through my promo code LAPLATICA  From Brea to Chicago, El Paso to Dallas, the La Plática live shows have been on another level — and Josh & Sebastian are here to relive the best moments with you.

In the heart of San Francisco's Golden Gate Park, scientists are on the cutting edge of growing coral. Rising ocean temperatures have caused mass coral bleaching, and experts are racing against the clock to figure out how to help corals be more resilient to stress.Coral scientist Rebecca Albright joined Host Ira Flatow at our live show at the Fox Theater in Redwood City, California, to talk about the work her lab does to help corals reproduce—romantic lighting and full moons included.Guest: Dr. Rebecca Albright is a coral reef biologist, an associate curator, and a Patterson Scholar at the California Academy of Sciences.Transcripts for each episode are available within 1-3 days at sciencefriday.com. Subscribe to this podcast. Plus, to stay updated on all things science, sign up for Science Friday's newsletters.

Sift through your memories and excavate an image of a fossil. Maybe you're picturing dinosaur bones, the imprint of an ammonite, or the fronds of a fern etched into stone. But there's a whole other category of fossilized remains that can tell us about life way before T. rexes, or even twigs, existed on this planet. That's fossilized evidence of microbes.Microbiologist Paula Welander uses these ancient remains to understand how life began on Earth. She joined Host Flora Lichtman for our live show at the Fox Theater in Redwood City, California, to talk about how her work may help us find life elsewhere in the universe.Guest: Dr. Paula Welander is a professor of Earth system science at Stanford University.Transcripts for each episode are available within 1-3 days at sciencefriday.com.  Subscribe to this podcast. Plus, to stay updated on all things science, sign up for Science Friday's newsletters.

Filmmaker Alex Rivera debuted Sleep Dealer, his groundbreaking border science fiction movie, at the Sundance Film Festival in 2008. The film won several awards but did not receive the wide commercial release it deserved. Over the years, Sleep Dealer has been rereleased on digital platforms and become a cult classic.The Border Chronicle is proud to announce that on October 15, viewers will have the opportunity to see Sleep Dealer on the big screen at the Fox Theater in Tucson as part of the Cinematic Borderlands Film and Conversation Series, presented by the Fox Theater, Cinema Tucsón, Cinema Tropical, Borderlands Cinematic Arts, The Border Chronicle, and other community partners.In this podcast, Melissa del Bosque speaks with Rivera about what inspired him to make Sleep Dealer and about collaborating with his life and creative partner, Cristina Ibarra. Both were awarded MacArthur Foundation grants, often referred to as “genius grants,” in 2021. The two filmmakers created the innovative half-documentary/half-scripted film The Infiltrators in 2019 and founded Borderlands Cinematic Arts, a filmmaking lab based in Los Angeles that is part of Arizona State University's Sidney Poitier New American Film School, where Rivera is also an associate professor. The lab focuses on creating authentic and nuanced cinematic works about the borderlands.Sleep Dealer touches on many social and political issues, including the border security industrial complex, migration, and social and economic inequality. Check it out on the big screen on October 15 at 7 p.m., followed by an audience Q&A moderated by The Border Chronicle's Melissa del Bosque.Also, don't miss Ibarra's wonderful documentary Las Marthas, about Laredo's Society of Martha Washington Colonial Pageant and Ball celebration, screening on October 8 at 7 p.m. as part of the Cinematic Borderlands Film and Conversation Series. Last, don't miss Take It Away, a documentary about the legendary Tejano music host Johnny Canales, screening on October 22 at 7 p.m.You can buy tickets and learn more about the films here.Watch a short film on the making of Sleep Dealer here

Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*:https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LAPL... Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Thank you Chevy for letting us take the new 2025 Blazer EV SS for a spin, the most powerful EV in its class with 615 horsepower, and Chevy's first performance EV. Happy Monday, LP fam! We hope your day is off to a great start. This Monday, Josh and Sebas discuss how different life was for our parents when they were young, why it's so hard to save money these days, and why you should stay on top of your credit card statements...or else.

ITS FIGHT WEEK !

Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*:https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LAPL... Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount At any party you go to, there's going to be good guests and not so good guests, and often it's a fine line that distinguishes one from the other. Luckily, Josh and Sebas have dedicated today's La Plática episode to give you all the wedding guest tips and tricks to make you stand out from the crowd for all the good reasons. So whether you're planning on going to a wedding or a party anytime soon, you're going to want to tune in for all the advice on how you can be the best kind of guest.

Johnny Rabbit recalls St. Louis in 1929 with the Fox Theater opening, sound movies replacing silent films, and dance marathons. He then jumps to 1979, highlighting Lambert Airport's TWA hub, the Cardinals, Steamers soccer, the newspaper strike, and concerts at the Checker Dome, Missouri, and Ambassador Theaters. Notable names include Leonard Slatkin, Dr. Jacob Robestein, and John Lennon. Plus, a preview of the Oasis St. Louis event on September 23 and next week's look at Gaslight Square.

✦ English actor and producer Jon Boyega gained international recognition for his role as Finn in the Star Wars sequel trilogy; however, that was not Boyega's first dip into science fiction. His debut feature-length film, 2011's "Attack the Block," and his most recently released film, "They Cloned Tyrone," both use the science fiction comedy genre to explore deeper social issues. Boyega appeared at Dragon Con over Labor Day weekend, and City Lights Collective co-host Kim Drobes caught up with him to discuss his passion for acting, his role as a film producer, and his love for Atlanta. ✦ City Lights Collective member and award-winning Atlanta comedian Joel Byars is one of the hardest-working people in the business. He hosts many comedy events around town, and his podcast, "Hot Breath Pod," aims to uplift his fellow comedians. Byars joins us weekly to share his picks for this week's must-see comedy, and today his mix includes a couple of big-name touring stars and a local treasure returning home to play the Fox Theater. ✦ There's no better place for Shakespeare than an outdoor theatre, and this fall, the Atlanta Shakespeare Company launches "A Shakespeare Happening," the first-ever free public Shakespeare festival in DeKalb County, taking place in the picturesque neighborhood of Avondale Estates. Alongside the theatrical performances, there will be live music and workshops for all ages. The first day of festivities is this Saturday and begins with "Tempest Jr.," an adaptation of "The Tempest" for young audiences. WABE arts reporter Summer Evans recently discussed the series with festival creator Nicole Sage, and Atlanta Shakespeare Company associate managing director Katie Grace Kirby. ✦ Long before modern choirs and vocal coaches, there was Sacred Harp—a uniquely American way of singing that turned everyday people into music-makers. This powerful and historic tradition dates back to the early 1800s and continues to thrive today, bringing together communities in spirited, four-part harmony. The 120th convention of the United Sacred Harp Musical Association comes to the Foundry at Puritan Mill on September 13 and 14, 2025. It is expected to be the largest gathering in a generation, drawing hundreds of singers from across the US and beyond. City Lights Collective producer Josh Thane sat down with Matt Hinton, a longtime Sacred Harp singer and scholar, to learn more about this enduring and uniquely American form of group singing. ✦ Atlanta's vibrant world of cocktails and zero-proof beverages thrives in our bars and restaurants as well as our local distilleries and non-alcoholic bottle shops. Few may know this world better than Beth McKibben, editor in chief and senior dining editor at Rough Draft Atlanta. Beth's expertise is invaluable as she continually explores our city's elevated beverage programs and examines the latest trends in mixology. She joins The City Lights Collective monthly for "The Beverage Beat," and this month, McKibben discusses what she calls "transitional cocktails," sips to savor during our fake-fall slash second summer season—also known as September in Atlanta.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*:https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/LAPL... Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount New Customers Bet $5 to get $300 Instantly in Bonus Bets and $200 OFF NFL Sunday Ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV. Sign up usinghttps://dkng.co/platica or through my promo code PLATICA. Manly men and skinny margaritas - can they coexist? On this episode of La Plática, Josh and Sebas explore their favorite drinks and the “controversy” surrounding them, famous birthdays, and how AI is changing social media (and life tbh). Catch Josh and Sebas at a Live Show near you!LA PLATICA LIVE TOUR DATES:09/18 @ Dallas House of Blues https://www.ticketmaster.com/la-platica-live-dallas-texas-09-18-2025/event/0C006317059958B809/19 @ El Paso UTEP Magoffin Auditorium https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0C00631A84E825F010/03 @ Scottsdale Center for the Arts https://scottsdalearts.org/whats-on/events/la-platica-live/10/17 @ San Jose California Theater https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C006315E624538511/08 @ FOX Theater in Riverside, CA https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0B006316A17118E4  While you're here, follow the Poddy on all socials

Dmitry Salita sits down with Brunch Boxing for an exclusive interview to discuss the upcoming Big Team USA Boxing event at the Fox Theater on September 19th.Read the latest news at Brunch BoxingThoughts or questions? Email us at brunchboxingqa@gmail.comHosts: Matt, and EzRawSocial: MikeProducer: Huey

Brandon Moore (18-1, 10 KOs) joins Brunch Boxing for an exclusive interview to discuss the upcoming Big Team USA Boxing event at the Fox Theater on September 19th.Read the latest news at Brunch BoxingThoughts or questions? Email us at brunchboxingqa@gmail.comHosts: Matt, and EzRawSocial: MikeProducer: Huey

DeAndre Savage (10-0, 10 KOs) joins Brunch Boxing for an exclusive interview to discuss his upcoming bout at the Fox Theater on September 19th.Read the latest news at Brunch BoxingThoughts or questions? Email us at brunchboxingqa@gmail.comHosts: Matt, and EzRawSocial: MikeProducer: Huey

DeAndre Savage (10-0, 10 KOs) joins Brunch Boxing for an exclusive interview to discuss her upcoming bout at the Fox Theater on September 19th.Read the latest news at Brunch BoxingThoughts or questions? Email us at brunchboxingqa@gmail.comHosts: Matt, and EzRawSocial: MikeProducer: Huey

A listener gets asked 5 questions while Katie is out of the studio. Then Katie gets asked the same 5 questions. Whoever gets more wins. Ties go to Katie. Playing for $80 plus Gigi Perez tickets Fox Theater on 10/20

A listener gets asked 5 questions while Katie is out of the studio. Then Katie gets asked the same 5 questions. Whoever gets more wins. Ties go to Katie. Playing for $20 plus Gigi Perez tickets Fox Theater on 10/20

✦ Break out your Flux Capacitor because when this show hits 88 miles per hour, you're going to see some serious…. stuff. That's right, “Back to the Future, The Musical” is coming to the Fox Theater this September. Bob Gale, co-writer of the original movies who helped bring to life Marty McFly and Doc Brown, has adapted the story for the stage, giving these beloved characters a whole new dimension. City Lights Collective producer Josh Thane sat down with Gale, along with Atlanta native and cast member Cartreze Tucker, to talk about translating this cinematic classic into live theater magic. ✦ Quilting has a long, rich history that crosses many different cultures and eras. For African Americans, creating quilts served not only as a means of survival and communication but also as a tool to share stories and showcase their artistry. O.V. Brantly created the Atlanta Quilt Festival 17 years ago to preserve and promote African American quilting and textile art. The juried exhibition has grown to over 100 quilts on display at the Southwest Arts Center and is on view through September 6. WABE arts reporter Summer Evans went down to check out these vibrant pieces of artwork. ✦ City Lights Collective member Shane Harrison spends his days at ArtsATL looking for cultural events to share with readers. He joins us weekly to share highlights, and today his mix includes The Weeknd at Mercedes-Benz Stadium, A Strange Loop at Actor's Express, and two shows that highlight the silver screen at The Booth Western Art Museum. ✦ Visual artist and music enthusiast Kosmo Vinyl bought his first LP when he was nine. He spent the next several decades immersed in music and began his professional career at London's pioneering indie label, "Stiff Records." In 1979, Kosmo started working exclusively with "The Clash," who were once billed as The Only Band That Matters, and stayed by their side until the punk icons disbanded in 1986. Over the years, Kosmo's record collection became legendary. In 2014, he began posting about his favorite releases on social media for his series, "Kosmo's Vinyl of the Week," and he joins us weekly to share the stories behind the records he treasures. This week, he shares the story behind "Roadrunner" from The Modern Lovers. ✦ Known for his vibrant, retro-inspired illustrations, Atlanta-based artist Derek Yaniger's work is a delightful blend of mid-century modern aesthetics, vintage comic book style, and rock 'n' roll culture. His art often features bold lines, striking colors, and a playful sense of nostalgia, making him a standout in the world of contemporary illustration. Yaniger's journey has taken him through a variety of creative industries, from ad agencies to Marvel comics to Cartoon Network. He has a special place in his heart for Atlanta's pop culture convention Dragon Con and has collaborated on artwork that combined the ethos of the convention with his signature style. You can see Derek and his art next week in the Comic and Pop Artist Alley at Dragon Con, and he recently joined City Lights Collective Co-host Kim Drobes to discuss his artistic process, influences, and his attachment to our city's longest-running fan-based convention.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's another two-for-one on Talkin' Rock! Up first, drumming legend, Mike Portnoy. He and Dream Theater are about to kick off their fall tour, with a stop at the Fox Theater on September 21st. We discussed his love for the Beatles, his relationship with Neil Peart, and the multiple bands he is a part of. He shared his thoughts on the passing of Ozzy and the only time he ever met the legend. Great to interview Mike for the first time after I'd met him a few times before. Next, it's Alice Cooper band bassist, Dennis Dunaway. The Revenge of Alice Cooper is out now. He told me they had a lot of material to choose from. So much they could've recorded many more albums. He shared some Detroit stories, a stage prop that didn't work as planned, and much more. Thanks for listening!

Chasta & Huey talked to Tim Brennan, guitarist for Dropkick Murphys and started off the interview asking for his thoughts on the passing of Ozzy Osbourne. Also, they talked about Dropkick Murphys tour with Bad Religion, a status update on singer Al Barr, music advice for young aspiring musicians, was former Dropkick Murphys singer Mike McColgan ever considered to help fill in on vocal duties, Halloween acitivites in Boston and more. Dropkick Murphys, Bad Religion & The Mainliners will be at The Fox Theater in Oakland on Tuesday, July 29th. For more info go to: thefoxoakland.com For tickets go to: ticketmaster.com Dropkick Murphys' new album "For The People" is out now. Check out Dropkick Murphys website: dropkickmurphys.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episodio 9 con mis amigos Leyendas del Mariachi Pepe Martinez Jr, Ismael Hernández y Juan Rodriguez. Conoce su historia mas a fondo, un poco de sus comienzos y de formar parte de Leyendas Del Mariachi. Asegurense de comprar boletos para el concierto en el Ford de Los Angeles el 7 de Agosto, y el 9 de Agosto en Tucson Arizona en el Fox Theater.Episode 9 with my friends Leyendas del Mariachi Pepe Martinez Jr, Ismael Hernández and Juan Rodriguez. Get to know their story a little deeper, they talk a little about their beginnings and their experience in being part of Leyendas del Mariachi. Be sure you get your tickets for the concert at the Ford in Los Angeles on August 7th, they will also be in Tucson, Arizona on August 9th at the Fox Theater.Con Lisa Hernández, hija de Pedro Rey.Código de descuento para el Ford "LEYENDAS'' section 5-7 solamente y comprar por linea. Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mariachiymaspc/Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mariachiymaspcFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61558870352458Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisahernandezoficial/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MariachiYMasPodcast Sponsor: Mariachi Depothttps://www.instagram.com/mariachidepot/

On this week's edition of The Intersection, Jason provides listeners with an update on Atlanta United following their 0-0 draw with D.C. United. Jason also shares his thoughts on the Club World Cup, including the dominance of Paris Saint-Germain. Jason asks, “What are your three favorite albums?” Noel gives an update on YOUR Atlanta Dream, including All-Star news. Noel goes over MLB All-Star events happening this weekend, including the Nike Baseball event at the Fox Theater, featuring a special Nike DT Pronto ‘92 release celebrating Deion Sanders' connection to Atlanta. Plus, what do adidas, Netflix, and the English have in common? Find out during Darts! 

Flashbacks/Throwbacks: they're good reminder of our best (or better) time in our lives, but they could also be a sad reminder of how our lives are now. We may not turn back the time, but we sure do our best to keep your "NOW" world awesome!Playlist: Grave Digger - Bark To HellOzzy Osbourne - Bark At the MoonOzzy Osbourne - ParanoidH.E.A.T. - Running To YouWildness - Eye of the StormParalandra - Can't Quench the FireLiliac - HumanLiliac - Rainbow in the DarkDio - Tarot WomanAngel Witch - ConfusedAngel Witch - Dr. PhibesTytan - Rude AwakeningLion - Fatal AttractionFaster Pussycat - Smash AlleyCinderella - Gypsy RoadVixen - Cruisin'Accept - StampedeAccept - Midnight HighwayAccept - Get ReadyAccept - London LeatherboysDirkschneider, featuring Mille Petrozza - Fight It BackTriumph, featuring Mickey Thomas - SpellboundStarship - Beat PatrolJefferson Starship - Find Your Way BackUriah Heep - The Other Side of MidnightMagnum - Wild Swan38 Special - Chain Lightnin'38 Special - Wild Eyed Southern Boys (live)Lynyrd Skynyrd - Gimme Back My Bullets (Live at Fox Theater, Atlanta, 1976)Obituary - Redneck StompLamb of God - RedneckJackyl - Redneck PunkJackyl - My Moonshine Kicks Your Cocaine's AssRebel Meets Rebel - Cowboys Do More DopePantera - Cowboys From HellRob Zombie - We're An American Band (Grand Funk cover)Molly Hatchet - Bounty HunterMolly Hatchet - Flirtin' With Disaster (live)Molly Hatchet - One Man's Treasure (live)Red Rider - Crack the SkyBlack Crow Funk - Moon Water

Adam Ray ( Dr. Phil ) puts on a wild show at The Fox Theater in Detroit with an all stat lineup! 4800 people enjoy musical crowd work therapy, Tiffany Haddish, drug stories from Felipe, and a game of AMERICAN TRIVIA! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

An Easter service with Summit Church celebrating Jesus' resurrection, conquering sin and death! A worship experience and message at the Fox Theater taught by Lead Pastor Grant Bruscoe and Summit U Pastor Josh Schiel. We'd love to connect with you! Fill out our online connect card here: https://summitspokane.churchcenter.com Visit https://summitchurchnw.com/kids-online for our Sunday Kids experience! For more resources and info on upcoming events visit our website, https://summitchurchnw.com.

On this edition of Update you will hear from Diana Morse and Donell Willey, two of the actors in the Fox Theater's presentation of "A Death of a Salesman". The Community Council on the Performing Arts in Nevada is presenting Arthur Miller's play from April 10th through the 13th at the Fox Playhouse, 110 South Main Street in Nevada. This episode describes the play, its main motif and an unusual way of presenting the 2nd half of the show.

Episode 085 kicks off with the return of STS9's ALANA ROCKLIN! The beloved bassist delivered one of this program's most popular conversations [#66, Spring 2023]; Rocklin was kind enough to come back for another round, a shorter interview recorded mid-Feb.2025 aboard Jam Cruise 21. We linked up on my cabin balcony for a discussion that covered the band's long-awaited return to The Boat (and Alana's maiden voyage!), new Sector 9 compositions and their forthcoming LP, curating intentional setlists and introducing material in the live element, the post-pandemic current touring model, live music bringing people together in tough times, and more! 0:00 - ep.085 preview 3:30 - sponsor - OM Festival 5:30 - The Upful Update 10:30 - introducing ALANA ROCKLIN 14:30 - interview w/Alana [33 min] 47:30 - afterglow > CORNFLOWER spot 52:10 - introducing ASHER FULERO 56:10 - interview w/ Asher [62 min] 1:57:45 - sign-off, ViBE Junkie Jamz Alana's chat is chased with a lengthier convo featuring Portland, OR's virtuosic keyboardist/producer/composer ASHER FULERO. We unpack his phenomenal 2024 solo LP 'Worlds', a hybrid organic-electronic affair that remains among my faves last calendar year.  Fulero details a journey through the creative process and industry opportunities, how this particular project was wrought with false starts and new lessons/understandings; plus recording/releasing original music in the ever-confounding streaming/social media era of sound-art and consumerism. In addition to Asher Fuler Band and experimental trio Threedom, the artist transparently reflects on experiences working with Emancipator Ensemble, Everyone Orchestra, Liberation Movement, Yonder Mountain String Band, Jon Fishman, and more.   ViBE JUNKIE JAMZ "Exploring An Asteroid" - Threedom "Dark Star" - STS9 live 11/14/24 Fox Theater, Oakland CA *cover photo of Alana Rocklin by Jason Myers, Jam Cruise 21*   Please check out these generous sponsors! Cornflower Music instagram.com/cornflowermusic  instagram.com/theomfestival    Send B a few dollas for makin you holla! EMAIL the SHOW PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify Theme Song: "Mazel Tov"- CALVIN VALENTINE

In this episode of the Modern Facilities Management Podcast, ⁠Griffin Hamilton⁠ interviews ⁠Scott Christopher⁠, Senior Director of Facility Operations at the historic ⁠Fox Theatre⁠ in Atlanta, GA.Scott shares insights into his extensive career in facilities management, the unique challenges of maintaining a 95-year-old venue, and the importance of balancing historical preservation with modern technology. He discusses operational strategies for maintenance, sustainability efforts, and the impact of mentorship on his career.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Fox Theater and Scott Christopher11:50 Operational Strategies for Maintenance and Repairs20:38 Sustainability Efforts and Waste Management27:05 Mentorship and Career ImpactEnjoy!

Despite being one of Oakland's most iconic buildings, the history of the Fox Theater is filled with unsolved mysteries. In preparation for his ongoing tours of the nearly century-old structure, architectural historian J.M. Marriner has been digging into the archives and looking for answers. This episode features our conversation on everything from arson and art theft to mushrooms growing in the balcony carpet.  If you want to see more photos related to this episode, check out my SF Gate article: https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/fox-theater-oakland-landmark-mysteries-19988446.php You can contact J.M. Marriner to get a copy of his booklet about the history of the theater and I also highly recommend checking out one of his tours: https://www.instagram.com/jmmarriner/ Subscribe to the Oakland Heritage Alliance email list to find out about upcoming dates: https://www.oaklandheritage.org/ Don't forget to follow the East Bay Yesterday Substack for updates on events, boat tours, exhibits, and other local history news: https://substack.com/@eastbayyesterday East Bay Yesterday can't survive without your donations. Please make a pledge to keep this show alive www.patreon.com/eastbayyesterday Special thanks to the sponsor of this episode: For 112 years, Children's Hospital in Oakland has been a foundational part of keeping our local communities healthy and happy. UCSF is proud to celebrate its award-winning care at UCSF Benioff Children's Hospitals in Oakland, throughout the East Bay, and around the Bay Area. Thank you to UCSF Benioff Children's Hospitals in Oakland for being a proud sponsor of East Bay Yesterday.

Johnny Rabbit takes listeners on a journey through St. Louis in 1977. He reflects on dining at Garibaldi Valley Buffet, the decline of iconic landmarks like the Continental Life Insurance Building, and the changing atmosphere in the city. Memories of conversations about the Fox Theater and the fading carnival-like vibe of local establishments set the tone. He invites listeners to join him for upcoming shows, including a special New Year's Day event.

Today on the show: talking about maybe the worst local story I've seen in a long time. Scott Slade live with the latest on early voting in Georgia. We'll go live to Jerusalem for the latest on Israel at War. Updating the #SapeloIsland tragedy. Tom Rivers from ABC News on worldwide child obesity. Josh Peck joins us live. Plus, giving away more tickets to see Larry David at the Fox Theater! 9am-noon on 95.5 WSB.

Today on the show: talking about maybe the worst local story I've seen in a long time. Scott Slade live with the latest on early voting in Georgia. We'll go live to Jerusalem for the latest on Israel at War. Updating the #SapeloIsland tragedy. Tom Rivers from ABC News on worldwide child obesity. Josh Peck joins us live. Plus, giving away more tickets to see Larry David at the Fox Theater! 9am-noon on 95.5 WSB.

Today on the show: talking about maybe the worst local story I've seen in a long time. Scott Slade live with the latest on early voting in Georgia. We'll go live to Jerusalem for the latest on Israel at War. Updating the #SapeloIsland tragedy. Tom Rivers from ABC News on worldwide child obesity. Josh Peck joins us live. Plus, giving away more tickets to see Larry David at the Fox Theater! 9am-noon on 95.5 WSB.

Today on the show: Andy Cole from WJCL News joins us live with the latest on the Sapelo Island tragedy. ABC News Jordana Miller in Jerusalem on the leaked Israel/Iran docs. Erick Erickson live updating #Campaign2024 and the new Fry Guy. Correspondent Rory O'Neill explains the Musk election lottery. Ambassador Susan Rice joins us live. Plus, giving away tickets to see Larry David at The Fox Theater! 9am-noon on 95.5 WSB.

Today on the show: Andy Cole from WJCL News joins us live with the latest on the Sapelo Island tragedy. ABC News Jordana Miller in Jerusalem on the leaked Israel/Iran docs. Erick Erickson live updating #Campaign2024 and the new Fry Guy. Correspondent Rory O'Neill explains the Musk election lottery. Ambassador Susan Rice joins us live. Plus, giving away tickets to see Larry David at The Fox Theater! 9am-noon on 95.5 WSB.

Today on the show: Andy Cole from WJCL News joins us live with the latest on the Sapelo Island tragedy. ABC News Jordana Miller in Jerusalem on the leaked Israel/Iran docs. Erick Erickson live updating #Campaign2024 and the new Fry Guy. Correspondent Rory O'Neill explains the Musk election lottery. Ambassador Susan Rice joins us live. Plus, giving away tickets to see Larry David at The Fox Theater! 9am-noon on 95.5 WSB.

Wage War Briton Bond and Cody Quistad zoomed in to talk about their new album "Stigma" (out now) and their headline tour coming to the Fox Theater in Pomona on Friday, October 25th. Here's what we talked about: "Stigma" album (0-5) 10/25/24 at Fox Pomona (5-9) "Blueprints" 10th anniversary (9-10) Matty Mullins (10-end)

Chasta & Baby Huey interviewed Jed Elliott, bassist for The Struts about their current tour, his thoughts on performing in the Bay Area, tips on using cologne, his podcast "The Musician's Journey", how he stays creative and how that applies to The Struts and shares a funny story of when The Struts' guitarist Adam Slack met Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day. The Struts are playing at The Fox Theater in Oakland on Wednesday, August 28th.For more info go to: thefoxoakland.comFor tickets go to: ticketmaster.com The Struts latest album "Pretty Vicious" is out now. The Struts latest single "Heaven's Got Nothing On You" is out now and streaming everywhere. Check out Jed Elliott's podcast The Musician's Journey available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and other podcast platforms. Get your Rock N Roll Fix at: 1077thebone.comFollow 107.7 The Bone on Facebook, Instagram, X, YouTube and TikTok.Follow 107.7 The Bone on Apple, Spotify or Amazon Music.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kris Myers was born on April 5, 1977. Receiving a drum kit at the age of 8, he took an early interest in jazz, rock and punk music. During high school Myers co-started his first musical outfit, a ska/punk band called the Skalawags. The group received a decent amount of success but denied an offer to tour Japan to instead pursue college degrees. Myers attended Elmhurst College from 1995 – 1999 where he was a music major and the drummer in the Elmhurst College Jazz Band. Under director Doug Beach, the Elmhurst College Jazz Band played gigs in the U.S. and Internationally at events such as the Umbria Jazz Festival, Jakarta Jazz Festival and the Montreaux Jazz Festival. In 2001 Myers enrolled in DePaul University where he earned his master's degree in jazz drumming and was a member of the Rob Parton Orchestra.  In addition to his involvement in school bands, Myers was playing in festivals with a variety of jazz artists such as Nicholas Payton, Diane Schuur, Randy Brecker, Dennis DiBlasio as well as local musicians Mark Colby and John McLean.  Myers also was a member of Chicago jazz fusion band Kick the Cat.  Myers began playing drums for progressive-rock band Umphrey's McGee in 2003 following the departure of original drummer Mike Mirro. With Myers at the helm, Umphrey's has released ten albums and maintains a rigorous touring schedule of over 100 live shows per year.  Umphrey's has performed at legendary festivals and venues such as Bonnaroo, Lollapalooza, Austin City Limits, Fuji Rock Festival, South by Southwest, Red Rocks, The Ryman Theatre, The Beacon Theatre and more. With Umphrey's, Myers has shared the stage with countless notable musicians such as Buddy Guy, Huey Lewis, Ivan Neville, Les Claypool, Stephen Perkins, Mike Keneally, Joshua Redman, Bela Fleck, Taj Mahal, Victor Wooten, Adrian Belew, Stanley Jordan, Gene Ween, Derek Trucks and Jason Bonham. In 2011 Myers was honored with the title of Best Jam Band Drummer by DRUM Magazine, beating jamband stalwarts such as Butch Trucks (The Allman Brothers) and Jon Fishman (Phish). In 2018, Myers was featured on the cover of Modern Drummer's July issue. Myers placed second in the Experimental Rock category of the publication's “Readers Poll Awards” behind St. Vincent drummer Matt Johnson. When he's not behind the drum kit, Myers enjoys playing golf, attending concerts, hiking and collecting art.    Some Things That Came Up:  -2:30 Kris's multi genre style  -3:00 Rabid fans  -4:45 The Umphrey's McGee audition turned into a 21 year gig and counting -6:30 Kris's previous band was Kick The Cat  -11:00 Maintaining a list of all the venues the band has played  -11:30 Red Rocks is fave venue as well as The Fox Theater in Oakland and The Ryman in Nashville -14:00 Vic Salazar !!! The ambassador of the drum community -16:40 The rider!  The love of milk chocolate!  -18:00 Stretching, fitness center, yoga -19:40 The documentary “Frame By Frame” -21:20 The Grateful Dead's Mickey Hart.. “most impressive” -23:40 The cover of Modern Drummer magazine in 2018!  -24:30 Dauz pads! Used by Rush and Nine Inch Nails  -26:45 Writing material together as a band  -27:40 Producer Greg Majors and Manny Sanchez -30:30 Different sets every night. Choosing from 14 studio albums. Responsible for all songs at all times  -35:40 collaboration with Huey Lewis. Met at The Jammy Awards in 2006. -43:00 Kris loves practicing impressions  -44:30 Stewart Copeland, Buddy Rich, Vinnie Colaiuta, Keith Carlock, Steve Gadd 49:50 The art of mashups, inspired by DJ culture  -50:15 Kris songs background vocals while playing insane music  -52:00 Rotator Cuff repair surgery. 6 month rehab, but ready after 4 months  -54:00 Local gigs and charity work  -54:50 Getting to do the “Boom Smack” -55:50 “David's Den” for mental health  -56:15 Wedding preparation  -57:20 “The Fave 5”   Follow: www.umphreys.com www.krismyersdrums.com  FB: @krismyers IG: @krismyersdrums YouTube: @krismyersdrums   The Rich Redmond Show is about all things music, motivation and success. Candid conversations with musicians, actors, comedians, authors and thought leaders about their lives and the stories that shaped them. Rich Redmond is the longtime drummer with Jason Aldean and many other veteran musicians and artists. Rich is also an actor, speaker, author, producer and educator. Rich has been heard on thousands of songs, over 30 of which have been #1 hits!   Follow Rich: @richredmond www.richredmond.com   Jim McCarthy is the quintessential Blue Collar Voice Guy. Honing his craft since 1996 with radio stations in Illinois, South Carolina, Connecticut, New York, Las Vegas and Nashville, Jim has voiced well over 10,000 pieces since and garnered an ear for audio production which he now uses for various podcasts, commercials and promos. Jim is also an accomplished video producer, content creator, writer and overall entrepreneur.   Follow Jim:   @jimmccarthy www.jimmccarthyvoiceovers.com

Playing for Ice Spice tickets at Fox Theater on 8/21

Rob Drabkin is a Musician from Denver, CO, spreading positivity through his songs. He was born and raised in Colorado, but decided to go to college in Texas to become a doctor. After graduating, Rob made the decision to pursue music full time, and moved back to his home state to get his start. After many open mics and lessons, Rob got one of his first big breaks playing the Fox Theater in Boulder, and has been a touring musician ever since. Having opened for the likes of Michael Franti, Trevor Hall, and Mat Kearney, he has built a devoted fan base in Colorado and throughout the country. After his song "It's a Beautiful Day" was featured in a belVita commercial, his international presence has grown as well. Rob's latest album "Spring in December" continues his mission of finding joy in the little moments, and putting a positive spin on tough situations. He also has a new project in the works that he will be announcing this summer. To learn more about Rob, give him a follow on Instagram @robdrabkin, find his music wherever you listen, or check out his website https://www.robdrabkin.com/.

With the weather warming up, now is the perfect time for a deep dive into Lake Merritt (not literally!). First, this episode explores the wild side of this body of water (which is technically a tidal estuary) with Constance Taylor, a naturalist with California Center for Natural History. Next, I interview C.J. Hirschfield, former director of Children's Fairyland, about the enchanting amusement park that's been entertaining families on the shores of Lake Merritt since 1950. Listen now to hear about the origin of the lake's geodesic dome, the real story behind Walt Disney's “inspiration,” and much more. Don't forget to check out the trailer for the upcoming documentary Reflections on Lake Merritt: https://www.gofundme.com/f/CreativeDiasporas Follow East Bay Yesterday on Substack to receive news about upcoming events, tours, and other local history news: https://substack.com/@eastbayyesterday Special thanks to the sponsors of this episode: UCSF Benioff Children's Hospitals Oakland and the Berkeley Art Museum and Pacific Film Archive. To get tickets to Children's Hospital Oakland's upcoming event at the historic Fox Theater, visit: https://www.notesandwords.org/ To learn more about BAMPFA's summer program, which features the films of Les Blank and much more, visit: https://bampfa.org/film

Comedian, actor, and philanthropist Chris Tucker joined the RSMS crew. Tucker was promoting his new comedy tour, Chris Tucker the Legend Tour. Tucker talks about not stopping doing standup while he was doing movies. Tucker is performing at The Fox Theater. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It is Thursday on The Rickey Smiley Morning Show. In this episode, the RSMS crew spoke about the bill in the House that passed, that would force the parent company of Tik Tok to sell or be banned in the US. President Biden has already said that if the bill passes the Senate, then he will sign it into law. Two months ago, Don Lemon announced that he was going to be doing his new show on X, formerly known as Twitter. Lemon did his first show with guest and X owner, Elon Musk, and things went left quickly. Now Lemon's show is canceled. Comedian, actor, and philanthropist Chris Tucker joined the RSMS crew. Tucker was promoting his new comedy tour, Chris Tucker the Legend Tour. Tucker talks about not stopping doing standup while he was doing movies. Tucker is performing at The Fox Theater. All of this and more on The Rickey Smiley Morning Show Podcast.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.