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Welcome back to Gnostic Insights and to the Gnostic Reformation on Substack. Last week was part one of my interview with Bishop Nathan Wilson of the Gnostic Union, and he explained to us a bit about who the Gnostic Union is and what they believe in. At the beginning of that episode, I read from the Gnostic Union website their history and mission statement. And my brother Billy called me up and said, “Oh, but there’s a point of their theology that’s all wrong. I know they’re ecumenical and all, but we mustn’t fall into the error of wrong teaching.” And, you know, I totally agree with that concept, not teaching anything that is incorrect or that doesn’t make sense, according to the Gnosticism that I share with you here. And it created a very large discussion between my brother and me. And I don’t even have enough time in this short introduction to go into the point that Bill brought up out of their statement of beliefs. So we’ll wait and we’ll do that when these interviews are all over and that way we can go into depth and give the topic the attention it deserves. You see, the Gnosticism that I share with you here mostly comes from the Tripartite Tractate of the Nag Hammadi. And the Tripartite Tractate is a very unusual book. It is not a book of mythology. It is not a book of ancient myths concerning angels and demigods and great battles in heaven and so forth. It’s not that kind of book. We think of it as physics. It’s literally a book that describes the cosmology and the cosmogony, that is, how consciousness came to be transmitted from the base state of consciousness that we call the Father or the Source, and all the way downstream into, ultimately, us. We’re sitting here talking and thinking about it. This is pure consciousness we’re talking about. It’s not particularities. You understand? Gnosis itself we think of as that river of consciousness. That’s what gnosis is. So, I often say, if my dog can’t understand the gnosis, it’s not really gnosis—it's a knowledge claim. If a blade of grass or a tree in the forest can’t bask in the gnosis, then it’s not really gnosis. It’s a human knowledge claim. This is the reason why here at Gnostic Insights and on the Gnostic Reformation, we do not dwell in the history of things. We dwell in the understanding or the gnosis itself. The cosmogony and cosmology of Gnosticism that I share with you here is a logical step-by-step rollout of the consciousness of the Father or the Source. It doesn’t really matter what you call it. It’s the base state. It’s the matrix of consciousness itself and how it flows down to us. There are necessary steps described in the Tripartite Tractate for how that consciousness is differentiated and particularized and then rolled down. And how it is that we material beings are different than the ethereal beings. How could that have possibly happened? It’s like that. It’s a logical progression that necessarily comes out of an a priori statement of consciousness as the ground state. That’s quite a bit different than mythologies of how these angels fit in with these gods and goddesses down here on earth and so forth. Because those particularities definitely come out of the mind of humans. They can be inspired. Okay, I’ll give you that. But they are knowledge claims. They’re not necessarily gnosis and because of that they can go wrong. They can be wrong. Whereas starting with this a priori notion of consciousness ending up in us and how does that occur? By what means does that possibly happen? And how is it that we earthlings plug into that illimitable consciousness? That’s a different thing. That’s a description of process. That’s an understanding or a gnosis of what it is that we are part of. 15 steps in Gnostic Cosmology So I’m not knocking the history or the particularities that Bishop Wilson shares with us. But the gnosis that leads you to enlightenment is simply this: We come from the Father [El Elyon] or from the Source or from the Mother-Father or from the Great Mother—whatever you want to call it. We come from that Source, that unlimited well of consciousness and life and power and might and love. And then we will return to that. That’s all you have to know. We come from Above and we return to Above. And with that knowledge, that’s your base state. That’s what the blades of grass and the dogs and the trees all understand. All the rest of the particularities of who and why and how, those are just details being filled in. Some of them out of gnosis, but most of them out of tradition or history. So we’ll be proceeding now into part two of my interview with Bishop Nathan Wilson of the Gnostic Union. And later on, we’re going to talk some more about the difference between mythology and the process of gnosis. That is what this podcast specializes in. That’s what my brother Bill and I have parsed out and discovered out of direct mining of the Tripartite Tractate. Our gnosis comes from that and it proceeds in an orderly fashion that doesn’t require any extra research. It’s all about gnosis and what must be. But here, let’s go back to this interview with Brother Wilson. **************************************************************** Cyd: Well, tell me more about your Bible that you wrote. What do you call it? You call it… Bishop Nathan Wilson: I call it The Gnostic Christian Truth Bible. I actually asked one of the older bishops that trained me, Bishop Jason, and he started that. So, I like the name. So, I thought, okay, I want to put Gnostic Christian in there. So, I was going to call it first the Truth Bible. He requested that, but I thought, well, Gnostic Christian makes it less likely for the Catholics to come after me as well, and the Protestants. Many do not like my translations. They are quite upset that I’ve done this, but they don’t put too much light on me. So, it’s best not to give me too much attention, basically. So, the less attention I have, the less people know about this, but which is something unique about mine. I don’t just offer my translations. I offer the original Koine Greek with it, so they can look at the actual text. So, even if my translation, say, could be wrong, they could look straight at that text and go argue with the text that they see, which I also wanted to include for their own reason, and when I included the alternative English, it’s so I might read it one way, but someone else is going to read it another way, and that can teach me something new. I feel, oh, I didn’t understand it like that. So, that’s why I wanted to keep that in there too, and a couple of words I kept in there were Greek. So, I kept Logos. I kept Kosmos, Zoe, Sophia, Archon. Magus. I kept all these words. So, very, very Gnostic, and you won’t find these in the English translations. They have gone out of their ways to censor them. I also kept the word daemon or daimon, daemon, so I did not put that down as demon because that’s not what it means. So, I kept the original Greek context of use, and I also add a Greek, Koine Greek, index in my translation so people can actually look at little snippets of what these words mean. So, I have some things in here. So, this is just on one page on basically all Greek with English meaning. So, there’s Logos, which I explained means God’s word, God’s authority, God’s reasoning, song, and speech, and utterance. So, when you see Christians speak that Jesus is speaking the Word, or in the beginning there was Word, they are doing a disservice to what’s being implied. This is the word of God. Very different, and even the word God we use is very English. I did keep up, but for the English sake of things. So, English people wouldn’t freak out too much on me, and another thing is also a safer mouthful, because this Word means supreme deity, deity of deities, which is very interesting. Otherwise, we would go into a god, which is lesser gods as well. So, we have a pantheon. So, it was very different, like even monotheism would evolve into what we think it is today, but in the ancient past with ancient Jewish people, they did believe in other gods, it’s just they chose to worship one god. So, this would be not the same as monotheism now, where you completely reject them as non-existent. This wasn’t that case. So, they had a very different mind. So I kept Sophia being wisdom. I mentioned this is how this is feminine wisdom, God’s feminine wisdom, coming from the Hebrew word Chokmah. Sometimes those are called Chokmah. So, I kept that in there as Sophia. Zoe, I kept too, meaning basically when you see eternal Zoe, that’s eternal life. So, that’s implying the feminine wisdom again, but also the spiritual benefits one receives with a spiritual relationship with God, or what’s with mine. So, I kept that in there. So, it’s very feminine, and that’s being removed. They would not want you to know that life is Zoe, and there’s other words they could have used for life or soul, but they chose to use the word Zoe, and that’s important. So, I kept that in there. And I’ve also got Megas. I’ve already mentioned that, but Magus comes from—here’s two words that are entwined, but the thing was the church has used a later translation, which would be terrible, but that’s kind of wrong, and this is because the language would evolve over time. It came to words Megus and Magos, which basically would be Magi, and then great and powerful, larger than life. So, Jesus was also called Iesous Magos. So, Jesus the Great, Jesus the Wise, has been censored because of Magus, and they don’t want you to know about Simon Magus. They don’t want you to know anything about Gnosticism. So, this has been censored, and I’ve also put some passages where find this. I kept Daemon in here, or Diamon. Gehenna, I also translated in here. I kept Gehenna. I did not use hell because hell is German. It’s realm of light in German, so it’s a Germanic word. So, I kept the word Gehenna, which is ultimately what we would kind of call hell, but it’s not what people think it is. That’s an evolved tradition. So, Gehenna or even Abaddon, these are two different words, but the same thing. Gehenna was the place where the soul was destroyed or purified. So, the text can translate to eternal punishment, but that’s not strictly bound to it. That’s more would be a later theology bound to that translation where it means period of time. So, it doesn’t necessarily mean all these different things. It’s like the word soma where it’s all about Jesus’ body. It can be living body, dead body, or a carcass, or even the living body of the church, which is more symbolic, but fascinating. I also kept in here a couple words, such as I explained Hades, which is mentioned with Sheol and how that’s separate from Gehenna. I’ve kept Helios, Selene, Astron, or Asterios, as well as Aletheia. These words are very interesting because they are all gods. They’re all Greco-Roman gods. So, the scholars or, I really should say, a Christian apologist, that state there’s no pagan gods in the New Testament—they are entirely wrong. It’s just that they have looked at it in a modern Greek eye instead of looking at an ancient past—they would have seen the gods being mentioned. So that’s very interesting. So when Jesus says that the stars and the sun is falling, he’s not speaking about the sun and stars. He’s speaking about the Helios, the Roman sun god is falling, and the stars and goddesses falling, as well as Selene, the moon, so the moon goddess. That’s the falling of the pagan Roman gods that was subjecting the Jewish people. So very different theology. So theology matters. So we have to look at how people believed back these times. [Jesus speaks of the stars, moon, and sun in Matthew 24:29, Mark 13:25, Luke 21:25. Assigning them as gods and goddesses is Bishop Wilson's interpretation.] The Jewish people did not like the Romans. Not saying that all of them did not. We had some that were pro-Roman. One of the Romans that was involved in the Jewish revolt, fighting against the Jewish people, was Jewish, which is cool. And he was related to Philo of Alexandria. So very interesting. I think he might be his grandson. Cyd: Let me jump in for a second as we’re speaking about gods and the God Above All Gods versus lesser gods. Is it your thought that the God of the Jews of the Old Testament, Jehovah, is a lesser god as opposed to the God Above All Gods? Bishop Nathan Wilson: Yes. Cyd: Okay, so Jehovah is the tribal god of the Old Testament? Bishop Nathan Wilson: Yes, a bit of a mix. So there’s two gods. Well, there’s a couple, if you’ve got to go every single god being mentioned. But what they’re describing is, say, Deuteronomy 32:8, you have El Elyon dividing up the nations according to the Elohim being children of El, and Yahweh received his inheritance from the most high God. So Yahweh was more like a guardian deity, basically. He was a brother of Baal. But some Canaanites believed that Yahweh was Baal. So Yahweh kind of came later after Baal. But the first to worship Yahweh were the Sashu of Yahweh. So they were Canaanite raiders. Hebrew was also a Canaanite language.  [The earliest trace of Yahweh isn't Israelite—it's desert-born. Egyptian inscriptions speak of the “Shasu of YHW,” nomadic peoples on the edges of Canaan, sometimes regarded as raiders. It suggests the name of Yahweh may have emerged out of the wilderness before it was ever claimed by Israel. Even Hebrew itself comes out of the same Canaanite linguistic world.] So I see the views—the ones that were worshipping El would be the ones that would become the Essenes or Jewish mystics. So the Essenes worshipped El. They didn’t worship Yahweh. They viewed Yahweh as a lesser god, which is one reason they challenged the temple, because they viewed, you guys aren’t worshipping God, you’re worshipping the lesser deity, you’re worshipping an angel. And so they rejected the temple. And the priesthood was corrupt. So then you also had the Magharians or Magarites. They were first century BC era Jews. They were proto-Gnostic, so that’s a scholar term. So they were Jewish mystics. They believed that Yahweh was a demiurge and that he was a lieutenant. So not an evil demiurge, but he was ignorant of the most high Father El Elyon, but that’s not a name to them. That was just a title meaning most high God. So they didn’t believe in God with a name, the unknowable Father, they believed was beyond sex as well. So Mother-Father, basically. So beyond all things. Too perfect to interfere with matter. And they believed that the Torah had been corrupted. So that’s fascinating. So that’s a group that we want to talk about. So we had about 25 different versions of Judaism during that time with all different beliefs. So what type of Jew was Jesus? This makes a big, big difference. So not all Jews worshipped Yahweh. Some viewed him as a lesser God and some viewed him as the devil, which is whack. So the only Gnostics or proto-Gnostics would use that word devil at that time. So we have the wisdom of Solomon, which is the first text adored by Christians that they would say, look, this is our Messiah mentioning he’s a dying and rising Messiah calling himself the Son of God and he’s been crucified. So this means that just like our text, he would die a shameful death. But this text mentions that through death, the devil enters the world. So the Pharisees didn’t believe in the devil. The Sadducees didn’t either. But what’s interesting about the Pharisees and Sadducees and the Herodians, which kind of made up both these groups, they were a part of both, just the Herodians mostly supported King Herod. They believed that either King Herod was the Messiah or his family would be, or they belonged to the Sadducees and didn’t believe in a Messiah. So the Sadducees didn’t believe in angels. They didn’t believe in an afterlife. They believed once you were dead, the soul turned to dust. God was too perfect to interfere with humans. So that’s an interesting belief. But we had different subsects of Sadducees that had a different opinion to that. They believed that God did interfere with humans, but we had total free will. So they could interfere with some things, but there was no Messiah. There was no angels. So they believed that a human could be a messenger of God. That was about it. So like Moses. Then you had the Pharisees. They believed that Satan served Yahweh. His job was to test humanity or seduce humanity away from God. So that way mankind had free will. But some Pharisees didn’t believe that. They believed that Satan, Hasatan, was just symbolic for mankind’s inclination towards evil. So they didn’t believe in an evil being. So their belief was that God ordained good and evil, basically, would use evil for his own will. So that’s trippy, very trippy. So the Pharisees had a very different belief. They didn’t believe in the adversary against God. They didn’t believe in fallen angels. Later on, they would take on this belief, borrowing it from mystics and zealots. So funny enough, they would be influenced by Jesus’ teachings, such as saving a life on the Sabbath. The Pharisees would not do that. But to be fair, some Essenes wouldn’t do that either. Some Essenes were very warlike, wanting to join God’s angelic army fighting at the Armageddon of the last days of the world. But these mystics, they are the only groups that believed in fallen angels and believed in a place of punishment. The only groups. And that’s fascinating. So they believed in a physical adversary against God. And these beliefs are carried on in the Christianity with the Armageddon day, or even the belief that God basically allows Satan to do what he wants, but he’s going to conquer over him. That was an Essene belief. They believed that Belial was the adversary against God, a fallen angel, leader of the fallen angels, and God would allow him the sin because he would destroy him in the end. So that was an Essene belief, but not all that belief. Some believed that basically fallen angels chose to rebel against God, so they had free will and that God would overcome them in the end. So that’s different. So we have to look at those beliefs because that makes a big difference in theology as well. And one reason I chose to keep daemon or daimon in the text is because this doesn’t mean Jesus is casting out evil demons, but rather, well, the ghost of the mystic belief of pagan gods were fallen angels. So he’s casting out pagan gods, or he’s just casting out unclean spirits, depending on what the definition of word is, because that daimon or unclean spirit, for instance, isn’t always referenced to a pagan god. It’s just someone who’s died vengeful or angry at God, and is now just a ghost causing haunting. So it depends on how it’s being used. So I kept those words in there. So if the word said unclean spirit, I kept that as unclean spirit. But if it was going into a daimon for a pagan god, basically I’ll keep it as that daimon, so they could choose how they’re going to read it. Because sometimes you’re dealing with two things at once. Sometimes you’re dealing with an unclean spirit, then a pagan god’s being mentioned too. So this archon ruler’s having little other minions subject under him. So we even have an archon ruler being mentioned. So an archon of the daemons, ruler of pagan gods. So other gods had dominions, basically. So they viewed these other gods having their own realms of power, which we also see in the Gnostic text. So I kept all that. I also kept the archon of the synagogue, which is a ruler of the synagogue. So it’s not always a bad thing. Sometimes it’s just political rulers that are mentioned. So an archon of the Gentiles, for instance, is just a ruler of Gentiles, just a politician. I have kept archons in the sense of Yahweh somewhat, I believe, as being the devil. Because in John 8:44, we have Jesus going up to the Pharisees and Sadducees and Herodians who made up the high priesthood. He says, You are of your father, the devil. But if only these Gnostic Jews believed in the devil and their God is Yahweh, who’s he calling devil? And then when the daemons are calling him Son of the most high God, they’re calling him huios, which means son. Huios tou theou tou hypsistou, which is Greek for Son of the most high God. But if you put this in the Hebrew, it’s Son of El Elyon. So this is what the pagan gods are calling him. So the lesser gods. And then he’s also saying that we’re all the children of El Elyon, which is also fascinating. And also the word for son they’re using just means child. It can be male or female. But again, they’re wanting a male audience. So they restricted it, which is a shame. Cyd: How about the word aeon? A E O N. What do you do with that word? You know, in my work with the Tripartite Tractate, it seems to me that most references of aeon in the New Testament translate it as time, a period of time, or the end of the ages, the ages. Whereas I tend to see it always as eternal beings from the ethereal plane. What do you think about that? Bishop Nathan Wilson: I love that. I think that too. I think it’s a mixture of all these things, which is also, I keep, it depends on the context of use. But a lot of times you do see the text that is referring to a higher being, which is beautiful to mention, especially when you’re looking at Gnostic works. But you do see this in the New Testament as well. So you see one text mentioning, for instance, who is this Sophia and this higher power? And that’s how the text can translate too, which is fascinating. So that means who’s this unknown higher power. And then it mentions about the Aeon. And so you see all this sort of stuff being mentioned. Yes, it means an eternal being or an angelic being, but it can also mean eternity or a period of time. So depending on the context of use. So words have power as well. So that’s interesting. So again, how it’s used can make a world of a difference. And it’s interesting when they’re using certain words because there are some times that they could have chosen to use a different word. So when they’ve used a certain word like that, that can change the entire context of meaning. Cyd: Right. Like saying there’s some reference to judgment at the end of the age. And I’m always thinking that it’s judgment from the Aeons when I see that. But I’m not translating from scratch, I’m taking biblical translation, so what do I know? Bishop Nathan Wilson: You’re spot on though. So you’re correct. So it can translate that as well. And we have to realize that we have different versions of Christianity. So that’s certainly appropriate for a first century understanding. Most people are looking at from fourth century. So you’re looking at it from a first century point of view. And so you’re ahead of others in that sort of case, which is beautiful to see. So that’s rare. And I chose to keep that for that reason. So people can have their own conclusions, not having it forced onto them. Cyd: You are very much into the history of things. You’re an historian. I am not at all interested in history per se. I’m always talking about what other people believed in other times. That is not pertinent to our gnosis here and now. So what do you view the purpose of this deep historical knowledge that you have concerning the Jews and the Essenes and whatnot? And is it necessary to go into all of that? Bishop Nathan Wilson: If you want to, I guess, teach from a historical perspective as well as a spiritual one, then yes. But if you want to go for spiritual, you can just go by the heart. There were plenty of spiritual teachers that were illiterate, that could not read, that could not write, and they had a beautiful message. So there’s something more powerful that we can receive within that you won’t obtain from books. But ultimately, you can also have wisdom gained from books. It can be a form of worship or a form of connecting with the divine as well. We have many forms of worship or many forms of experience what’s divine or having that intimate moment with what’s divine to reflect and to deepen our purpose. I wanted to know the historical man we call Jesus and ultimately put into practice what he put into practice. So I wanted to look at the history side of things and especially also, what’s another word I would like to use, decondition myself, decondition past beliefs that were harmful, that did not serve me and ultimately not serving others, and also find out that I was wrong about many things, which I wanted to know as well. So what brought me to this was to know the man we call Jesus, Yeshua, or Yehoshua, whichever term you like, whichever name you want to use. So I want to know not just that, but I want to know his practices, what he did with his life, how his first followers lived, how the first Christians lived, and what I could use for my own spiritual path and how I could put that into practice. So that’s why I want to look at the history side of things. I think if you want to put into practice the different techniques of all the many different Gnostics, then you’re going to have to look at some of the history side of things to find those practices. That doesn’t mean that every single practice is necessary for you. So what works for me might not work for others. What works for others might not work for me. So double-edged sword. Cyd: What sort of practices are you referring to? Are these rituals? What’s the practices? Bishop Nathan Wilson: I go into some of the ancient rituals as well. Some of them I might look at the prayers that they would use, the diet they would take, or means of worship. So how they would go about their forms of private practice. So that sort of stuff. And then I might apply it into my own life and see how I can go. There’s still more I’d like to go and check out more. So I’m still studying a couple of some of the ancient practices as well. So from different or religious perspectives as well. And then I can see how I can put it to my own form of use. So I looked at a lot of Jewish Christians, they would do the shema for instance, before their meditations. And I’ll do that as well. [“Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one… You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength…”] They also did breath works back then, which would also induce a sense of intoxication if you want to use, or light headness. And in turn that can also open a new state of reality. So entering the spiritual realm can be a vehicle, if you will, to get there. So to open the mind. And that’s also a practice that’s been used in ancient past. And we can certainly use that today. We have modern practices, say like Wim Hof, that teach breath work in meditation. That’s also useful. So sometimes looking at the past, we do see stuff in today’s world that’s not really new. It’s just being basically reentering this world again, from past knowledge gained of old. And I find that in a lot of Gnostic stuff. When you look at history, you kind of see that Gnostics kind of did a lot of things first, that what we’re doing now that we think is modern, but it’s not. It’s ancient. Cyd: That’s why conventional Christians who read my books, they say, oh, you’re just all new age. And I’m like, no, it’s not new age at all. It’s ancient. Bishop Nathan Wilson: Which is a shame that Christians have been shut off into their own world, which is kind of funny. I actually tell most Christians that they are, in fact, new age, because these beliefs are ancient. And what they are going by is, depending on what version of Christianity, if you’re Protestant, that’s 16th century, I believe. Non-denominal, 18th century. Protestant, 16th century. Catholicism, late second century. Orthodoxy, as we know it now, would be about 14th century. But older Orthodoxy, which would be the split from the Catholic church, is fourth century. So it’s when you go to Gnostic Christians, first century, and we’re really the only groups that are surviving, the Jewish Christians got killed. They ultimately were wiped out or would convert to mainstream Judaism or would become Christian or Islam, they would follow as well. So some would be converted to Muslims, which is also interesting as well. We as Gnostics were also harmed by these other groups, by Catholics, Protestants, Muslims as well. At one point Zoroastrians, but that was only one particular era. And we’ve basically arisen from all that, from that underground, and we’ve still survived, which is fascinating. It’s beautiful that we have. And also the texts that have been rediscovered, this is not accidental. This is all happening for a reason. What’s divine is experiencing itself where it can experience itself and express itself again safely in today’s world. In ancient past, it was dangerous to have diversion after the fourth century, which is a shame because the Catholics would kill those who came before them. They didn’t like that. And they even knew that some of the Gnostics, they had older writings, but they still denied them, which is funny. So it’s why such the hate, which is such a shame. So it goes back to that control of power, my way or the highway, basically. And it was never meant to be like that. It was meant to be very universal. It was meant to be very diverse. The first Christians were Gnostics and Jewish Christians, a mixture between strict law observing Jews and a mixture of Gentiles. And then you had the Jewish mystics that became the Christian mystics, which is fascinating. That was the original groups. And the original groups would argue amongst each other. The strict law observing Jews wanted circumcision, where the mystics said, no, no circumcision of the hearts, let the Gentiles come. That’s fine. So even when we look at the word, say, ethnos, for instance, in the Gospels, when you see kingdom against kingdom, nation against nation, these are the same things. So what they’re actually talking about is Gentile against Gentile and kingdom against kingdom. So the Jewish people didn’t have a kingdom at this stage. It was a mixture of Judea, Galilee and Samaria. So we’re the Samaritans. So that’s also something to take into account, too. So they didn’t like that. They were looking for a messiah to reunify the Jewish people, restore the Jewish faith and make Israel a kingdom again. And so some of them didn’t like the fact that Jesus wasn’t after this, for instance. So they didn’t like some of these teachings. It was a bit different. But if you look at the mystics, they had a very different interpretations. They did believe in a renewal of the Jewish faith, but a renewal back to El Elyon and a rejection of Yahweh. So that’s very different. So when you look at repentance, for Israel to repent, meaning for all of Israel to return back to El Elyon. And if you look at for the Gentiles conversion, that would be referring to not converting to any religion, but converting to God. So God outside religion. So fascinating. So you see all this in the original text. Cyd: And why do you suppose, this might be an unanswerable question, but why do you suppose conventional modern Christians are so, you know, extremely antagonistic towards Gnostic Christians? Is it fear or what? Bishop Nathan Wilson: Well, they’ve been told you're the enemy, basically. And yes, some of it is fear. Fear as well of the unknown. And also because of the need of an opponent. So they believe that they are doing a good thing. And if they don’t do this, they can be punished. So it’s the case of where a victim becomes an abuser. So most Christians have never even heard about Gnostics. It’s only the real ones who are into spiritual warfare, basically, and really full on extremist dogmatic ones that are familiar with, and apologetics. But they are now feeling like they’re losing the battle because more people were interested in Gnosticism and especially interested in other Jewish groups and the Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as the Nag Hammadi. So they’re realizing their other texts and there’s other options now. And that’s great. And regarding even my translations, one reason I chose to do it that I did, I found out that no modern English Bible translates from one source material. They’re all a mixture of different sources. So we have the Codex Sinaiticus mixed with the Latin Vulgate, mixing with Germanic copies, and then mixing ancient Koine Greek into modern Hebrew, putting it back into Greek. And that’s not good at all. So we’re just changing—we’re swapping chapters because we feel uncomfortable with them. So I was mortified when I was looking at that. And so I realized I couldn’t trust basically my Bible anymore. So I thought, well, I’m making this myself. And then I thought, well, I’m going to release it. Let’s go and share it too and do what they will with it. And it opened a lot of doorways to me, actually. So that’s one reason I wanted to give that out so people can have their own faith in their own interpretation and also believe in the message of Yeshua, bringing people back to the Most High God, to the Unknowable God, the Living Father, the Mother-Father. And we also see the Mother being mentioned in other texts too. It’s just mostly blocked out by mainstream Christianity, which is unfair, unfair to women and unfair to humanity with their approaches. It’s been very violent. So we need to remove that violence because that’s nothing to do with Yeshua’s teachings. He didn’t teach us to go around fighting each other. He said, Those who are for me are with me. They don’t understand his message. They very much follow the Catholic teachings of Paul that they’ve been given. And so they can look at the Gnostic teachings of Paul as well, which are also in there. Paul’s letters, we now know they’re mostly all forgeries. We don’t have any original copies either. They’re all later fourth century and we have some second century fragments. But the oldest reference to Paul is from the Ten Letters of Marcion. And he’s the man who compiled the first Christian Bible. And some people can argue, some people don’t believe he was a Gnostic. Others think he was a Gnostic. I think he was a type of Gnostic because he believed in a demiurge. So he believed that the God of the Jews was Yahweh and not the Supreme God of Jesus. That is a very Gnostic belief. But the thing is, the word Gnostic was given to us by the Catholic church, was a way of separating us and identifying us. But we wear it as a badge of honor because we understand they’re just calling us knowledgeable Christians, which is kind of funny. So language is powerful and the Catholic church certainly forgot it. So because of them, we now use daimon as demon. So they’ve basically demonized Jesus. They’ve demonized the Holy Spirit, which is their greatest sin. And they’ve demonized God and every other God. So they don’t know what damage they’ve done. And that’s not good. So I wanted to reverse that damage and bring people back to what I believe is the message of Yeshua, of Jesus, and to have their own spiritual relationship with God, an individual relationship, which is something that I want to see more of. That’s a very beautiful thing. You can’t define that intimate experience without living it. Cyd: Right, right. Well, that's all we have time for in this episode. We'll pick it up again next week for part three of my interview with Bishop Nathan Wilson of The Gnostic Union Church.  I like the way he talks, huh? Until next week, onward and upward and God bless us all.

Welcome back to Gnostic Insights and to the Gnostic Reformation on Substack. Last week was part one of my interview with Bishop Nathan Wilson of the Gnostic Union, and he explained to us a bit about who the Gnostic Union is and what they believe in. At the beginning of that episode, I read from the Gnostic Union website their history and mission statement. And my brother Billy called me up and said, “Oh, but there’s a point of their theology that’s all wrong. I know they’re ecumenical and all, but we mustn’t fall into the error of wrong teaching.” And, you know, I totally agree with that concept, not teaching anything that is incorrect or that doesn’t make sense, according to the Gnosticism that I share with you here. And it created a very large discussion between my brother and me. And I don’t even have enough time in this short introduction to go into the point that Bill brought up out of their statement of beliefs. So we’ll wait and we’ll do that when these interviews are all over and that way we can go into depth and give the topic the attention it deserves. You see, the Gnosticism that I share with you here mostly comes from the Tripartite Tractate of the Nag Hammadi. And the Tripartite Tractate is a very unusual book. It is not a book of mythology. It is not a book of ancient myths concerning angels and demigods and great battles in heaven and so forth. It’s not that kind of book. We think of it as physics. It’s literally a book that describes the cosmology and the cosmogony, that is, how consciousness came to be transmitted from the base state of consciousness that we call the Father or the Source, and all the way downstream into, ultimately, us. We’re sitting here talking and thinking about it. This is pure consciousness we’re talking about. It’s not particularities. You understand? Gnosis itself we think of as that river of consciousness. That’s what gnosis is. So, I often say, if my dog can’t understand the gnosis, it’s not really gnosis—it's a knowledge claim. If a blade of grass or a tree in the forest can’t bask in the gnosis, then it’s not really gnosis. It’s a human knowledge claim. This is the reason why here at Gnostic Insights and on the Gnostic Reformation, we do not dwell in the history of things. We dwell in the understanding or the gnosis itself. The cosmogony and cosmology of Gnosticism that I share with you here is a logical step-by-step rollout of the consciousness of the Father or the Source. It doesn’t really matter what you call it. It’s the base state. It’s the matrix of consciousness itself and how it flows down to us. There are necessary steps described in the Tripartite Tractate for how that consciousness is differentiated and particularized and then rolled down. And how it is that we material beings are different than the ethereal beings. How could that have possibly happened? It’s like that. It’s a logical progression that necessarily comes out of an a priori statement of consciousness as the ground state. That’s quite a bit different than mythologies of how these angels fit in with these gods and goddesses down here on earth and so forth. Because those particularities definitely come out of the mind of humans. They can be inspired. Okay, I’ll give you that. But they are knowledge claims. They’re not necessarily gnosis and because of that they can go wrong. They can be wrong. Whereas starting with this a priori notion of consciousness ending up in us and how does that occur? By what means does that possibly happen? And how is it that we earthlings plug into that illimitable consciousness? That’s a different thing. That’s a description of process. That’s an understanding or a gnosis of what it is that we are part of. 15 steps in Gnostic Cosmology So I’m not knocking the history or the particularities that Bishop Wilson shares with us. But the gnosis that leads you to enlightenment is simply this: We come from the Father [El Elyon] or from the Source or from the Mother-Father or from the Great Mother—whatever you want to call it. We come from that Source, that unlimited well of consciousness and life and power and might and love. And then we will return to that. That’s all you have to know. We come from Above and we return to Above. And with that knowledge, that’s your base state. That’s what the blades of grass and the dogs and the trees all understand. All the rest of the particularities of who and why and how, those are just details being filled in. Some of them out of gnosis, but most of them out of tradition or history. So we’ll be proceeding now into part two of my interview with Bishop Nathan Wilson of the Gnostic Union. And later on, we’re going to talk some more about the difference between mythology and the process of gnosis. That is what this podcast specializes in. That’s what my brother Bill and I have parsed out and discovered out of direct mining of the Tripartite Tractate. Our gnosis comes from that and it proceeds in an orderly fashion that doesn’t require any extra research. It’s all about gnosis and what must be. But here, let’s go back to this interview with Brother Wilson. **************************************************************** Cyd: Well, tell me more about your Bible that you wrote. What do you call it? You call it… Bishop Nathan Wilson: I call it The Gnostic Christian Truth Bible. I actually asked one of the older bishops that trained me, Bishop Jason, and he started that. So, I like the name. So, I thought, okay, I want to put Gnostic Christian in there. So, I was going to call it first the Truth Bible. He requested that, but I thought, well, Gnostic Christian makes it less likely for the Catholics to come after me as well, and the Protestants. Many do not like my translations. They are quite upset that I’ve done this, but they don’t put too much light on me. So, it’s best not to give me too much attention, basically. So, the less attention I have, the less people know about this, but which is something unique about mine. I don’t just offer my translations. I offer the original Koine Greek with it, so they can look at the actual text. So, even if my translation, say, could be wrong, they could look straight at that text and go argue with the text that they see, which I also wanted to include for their own reason, and when I included the alternative English, it’s so I might read it one way, but someone else is going to read it another way, and that can teach me something new. I feel, oh, I didn’t understand it like that. So, that’s why I wanted to keep that in there too, and a couple of words I kept in there were Greek. So, I kept Logos. I kept Kosmos, Zoe, Sophia, Archon. Magus. I kept all these words. So, very, very Gnostic, and you won’t find these in the English translations. They have gone out of their ways to censor them. I also kept the word daemon or daimon, daemon, so I did not put that down as demon because that’s not what it means. So, I kept the original Greek context of use, and I also add a Greek, Koine Greek, index in my translation so people can actually look at little snippets of what these words mean. So, I have some things in here. So, this is just on one page on basically all Greek with English meaning. So, there’s Logos, which I explained means God’s word, God’s authority, God’s reasoning, song, and speech, and utterance. So, when you see Christians speak that Jesus is speaking the Word, or in the beginning there was Word, they are doing a disservice to what’s being implied. This is the word of God. Very different, and even the word God we use is very English. I did keep up, but for the English sake of things. So, English people wouldn’t freak out too much on me, and another thing is also a safer mouthful, because this Word means supreme deity, deity of deities, which is very interesting. Otherwise, we would go into a god, which is lesser gods as well. So, we have a pantheon. So, it was very different, like even monotheism would evolve into what we think it is today, but in the ancient past with ancient Jewish people, they did believe in other gods, it’s just they chose to worship one god. So, this would be not the same as monotheism now, where you completely reject them as non-existent. This wasn’t that case. So, they had a very different mind. So I kept Sophia being wisdom. I mentioned this is how this is feminine wisdom, God’s feminine wisdom, coming from the Hebrew word Chokmah. Sometimes those are called Chokmah. So, I kept that in there as Sophia. Zoe, I kept too, meaning basically when you see eternal Zoe, that’s eternal life. So, that’s implying the feminine wisdom again, but also the spiritual benefits one receives with a spiritual relationship with God, or what’s with mine. So, I kept that in there. So, it’s very feminine, and that’s being removed. They would not want you to know that life is Zoe, and there’s other words they could have used for life or soul, but they chose to use the word Zoe, and that’s important. So, I kept that in there. And I’ve also got Megas. I’ve already mentioned that, but Magus comes from—here’s two words that are entwined, but the thing was the church has used a later translation, which would be terrible, but that’s kind of wrong, and this is because the language would evolve over time. It came to words Megus and Magos, which basically would be Magi, and then great and powerful, larger than life. So, Jesus was also called Iesous Magos. So, Jesus the Great, Jesus the Wise, has been censored because of Magus, and they don’t want you to know about Simon Magus. They don’t want you to know anything about Gnosticism. So, this has been censored, and I’ve also put some passages where find this. I kept Daemon in here, or Diamon. Gehenna, I also translated in here. I kept Gehenna. I did not use hell because hell is German. It’s realm of light in German, so it’s a Germanic word. So, I kept the word Gehenna, which is ultimately what we would kind of call hell, but it’s not what people think it is. That’s an evolved tradition. So, Gehenna or even Abaddon, these are two different words, but the same thing. Gehenna was the place where the soul was destroyed or purified. So, the text can translate to eternal punishment, but that’s not strictly bound to it. That’s more would be a later theology bound to that translation where it means period of time. So, it doesn’t necessarily mean all these different things. It’s like the word soma where it’s all about Jesus’ body. It can be living body, dead body, or a carcass, or even the living body of the church, which is more symbolic, but fascinating. I also kept in here a couple words, such as I explained Hades, which is mentioned with Sheol and how that’s separate from Gehenna. I’ve kept Helios, Selene, Astron, or Asterios, as well as Aletheia. These words are very interesting because they are all gods. They’re all Greco-Roman gods. So, the scholars or, I really should say, a Christian apologist, that state there’s no pagan gods in the New Testament—they are entirely wrong. It’s just that they have looked at it in a modern Greek eye instead of looking at an ancient past—they would have seen the gods being mentioned. So that’s very interesting. So when Jesus says that the stars and the sun is falling, he’s not speaking about the sun and stars. He’s speaking about the Helios, the Roman sun god is falling, and the stars and goddesses falling, as well as Selene, the moon, so the moon goddess. That’s the falling of the pagan Roman gods that was subjecting the Jewish people. So very different theology. So theology matters. So we have to look at how people believed back these times. [Jesus speaks of the stars, moon, and sun in Matthew 24:29, Mark 13:25, Luke 21:25. Assigning them as gods and goddesses is Bishop Wilson's interpretation.] The Jewish people did not like the Romans. Not saying that all of them did not. We had some that were pro-Roman. One of the Romans that was involved in the Jewish revolt, fighting against the Jewish people, was Jewish, which is cool. And he was related to Philo of Alexandria. So very interesting. I think he might be his grandson. Cyd: Let me jump in for a second as we’re speaking about gods and the God Above All Gods versus lesser gods. Is it your thought that the God of the Jews of the Old Testament, Jehovah, is a lesser god as opposed to the God Above All Gods? Bishop Nathan Wilson: Yes. Cyd: Okay, so Jehovah is the tribal god of the Old Testament? Bishop Nathan Wilson: Yes, a bit of a mix. So there’s two gods. Well, there’s a couple, if you’ve got to go every single god being mentioned. But what they’re describing is, say, Deuteronomy 32:8, you have El Elyon dividing up the nations according to the Elohim being children of El, and Yahweh received his inheritance from the most high God. So Yahweh was more like a guardian deity, basically. He was a brother of Baal. But some Canaanites believed that Yahweh was Baal. So Yahweh kind of came later after Baal. But the first to worship Yahweh were the Sashu of Yahweh. So they were Canaanite raiders. Hebrew was also a Canaanite language.  [The earliest trace of Yahweh isn't Israelite—it's desert-born. Egyptian inscriptions speak of the “Shasu of YHW,” nomadic peoples on the edges of Canaan, sometimes regarded as raiders. It suggests the name of Yahweh may have emerged out of the wilderness before it was ever claimed by Israel. Even Hebrew itself comes out of the same Canaanite linguistic world.] So I see the views—the ones that were worshipping El would be the ones that would become the Essenes or Jewish mystics. So the Essenes worshipped El. They didn’t worship Yahweh. They viewed Yahweh as a lesser god, which is one reason they challenged the temple, because they viewed, you guys aren’t worshipping God, you’re worshipping the lesser deity, you’re worshipping an angel. And so they rejected the temple. And the priesthood was corrupt. So then you also had the Magharians or Magarites. They were first century BC era Jews. They were proto-Gnostic, so that’s a scholar term. So they were Jewish mystics. They believed that Yahweh was a demiurge and that he was a lieutenant. So not an evil demiurge, but he was ignorant of the most high Father El Elyon, but that’s not a name to them. That was just a title meaning most high God. So they didn’t believe in God with a name, the unknowable Father, they believed was beyond sex as well. So Mother-Father, basically. So beyond all things. Too perfect to interfere with matter. And they believed that the Torah had been corrupted. So that’s fascinating. So that’s a group that we want to talk about. So we had about 25 different versions of Judaism during that time with all different beliefs. So what type of Jew was Jesus? This makes a big, big difference. So not all Jews worshipped Yahweh. Some viewed him as a lesser God and some viewed him as the devil, which is whack. So the only Gnostics or proto-Gnostics would use that word devil at that time. So we have the wisdom of Solomon, which is the first text adored by Christians that they would say, look, this is our Messiah mentioning he’s a dying and rising Messiah calling himself the Son of God and he’s been crucified. So this means that just like our text, he would die a shameful death. But this text mentions that through death, the devil enters the world. So the Pharisees didn’t believe in the devil. The Sadducees didn’t either. But what’s interesting about the Pharisees and Sadducees and the Herodians, which kind of made up both these groups, they were a part of both, just the Herodians mostly supported King Herod. They believed that either King Herod was the Messiah or his family would be, or they belonged to the Sadducees and didn’t believe in a Messiah. So the Sadducees didn’t believe in angels. They didn’t believe in an afterlife. They believed once you were dead, the soul turned to dust. God was too perfect to interfere with humans. So that’s an interesting belief. But we had different subsects of Sadducees that had a different opinion to that. They believed that God did interfere with humans, but we had total free will. So they could interfere with some things, but there was no Messiah. There was no angels. So they believed that a human could be a messenger of God. That was about it. So like Moses. Then you had the Pharisees. They believed that Satan served Yahweh. His job was to test humanity or seduce humanity away from God. So that way mankind had free will. But some Pharisees didn’t believe that. They believed that Satan, Hasatan, was just symbolic for mankind’s inclination towards evil. So they didn’t believe in an evil being. So their belief was that God ordained good and evil, basically, would use evil for his own will. So that’s trippy, very trippy. So the Pharisees had a very different belief. They didn’t believe in the adversary against God. They didn’t believe in fallen angels. Later on, they would take on this belief, borrowing it from mystics and zealots. So funny enough, they would be influenced by Jesus’ teachings, such as saving a life on the Sabbath. The Pharisees would not do that. But to be fair, some Essenes wouldn’t do that either. Some Essenes were very warlike, wanting to join God’s angelic army fighting at the Armageddon of the last days of the world. But these mystics, they are the only groups that believed in fallen angels and believed in a place of punishment. The only groups. And that’s fascinating. So they believed in a physical adversary against God. And these beliefs are carried on in the Christianity with the Armageddon day, or even the belief that God basically allows Satan to do what he wants, but he’s going to conquer over him. That was an Essene belief. They believed that Belial was the adversary against God, a fallen angel, leader of the fallen angels, and God would allow him the sin because he would destroy him in the end. So that was an Essene belief, but not all that belief. Some believed that basically fallen angels chose to rebel against God, so they had free will and that God would overcome them in the end. So that’s different. So we have to look at those beliefs because that makes a big difference in theology as well. And one reason I chose to keep daemon or daimon in the text is because this doesn’t mean Jesus is casting out evil demons, but rather, well, the ghost of the mystic belief of pagan gods were fallen angels. So he’s casting out pagan gods, or he’s just casting out unclean spirits, depending on what the definition of word is, because that daimon or unclean spirit, for instance, isn’t always referenced to a pagan god. It’s just someone who’s died vengeful or angry at God, and is now just a ghost causing haunting. So it depends on how it’s being used. So I kept those words in there. So if the word said unclean spirit, I kept that as unclean spirit. But if it was going into a daimon for a pagan god, basically I’ll keep it as that daimon, so they could choose how they’re going to read it. Because sometimes you’re dealing with two things at once. Sometimes you’re dealing with an unclean spirit, then a pagan god’s being mentioned too. So this archon ruler’s having little other minions subject under him. So we even have an archon ruler being mentioned. So an archon of the daemons, ruler of pagan gods. So other gods had dominions, basically. So they viewed these other gods having their own realms of power, which we also see in the Gnostic text. So I kept all that. I also kept the archon of the synagogue, which is a ruler of the synagogue. So it’s not always a bad thing. Sometimes it’s just political rulers that are mentioned. So an archon of the Gentiles, for instance, is just a ruler of Gentiles, just a politician. I have kept archons in the sense of Yahweh somewhat, I believe, as being the devil. Because in John 8:44, we have Jesus going up to the Pharisees and Sadducees and Herodians who made up the high priesthood. He says, You are of your father, the devil. But if only these Gnostic Jews believed in the devil and their God is Yahweh, who’s he calling devil? And then when the daemons are calling him Son of the most high God, they’re calling him huios, which means son. Huios tou theou tou hypsistou, which is Greek for Son of the most high God. But if you put this in the Hebrew, it’s Son of El Elyon. So this is what the pagan gods are calling him. So the lesser gods. And then he’s also saying that we’re all the children of El Elyon, which is also fascinating. And also the word for son they’re using just means child. It can be male or female. But again, they’re wanting a male audience. So they restricted it, which is a shame. Cyd: How about the word aeon? A E O N. What do you do with that word? You know, in my work with the Tripartite Tractate, it seems to me that most references of aeon in the New Testament translate it as time, a period of time, or the end of the ages, the ages. Whereas I tend to see it always as eternal beings from the ethereal plane. What do you think about that? Bishop Nathan Wilson: I love that. I think that too. I think it’s a mixture of all these things, which is also, I keep, it depends on the context of use. But a lot of times you do see the text that is referring to a higher being, which is beautiful to mention, especially when you’re looking at Gnostic works. But you do see this in the New Testament as well. So you see one text mentioning, for instance, who is this Sophia and this higher power? And that’s how the text can translate too, which is fascinating. So that means who’s this unknown higher power. And then it mentions about the Aeon. And so you see all this sort of stuff being mentioned. Yes, it means an eternal being or an angelic being, but it can also mean eternity or a period of time. So depending on the context of use. So words have power as well. So that’s interesting. So again, how it’s used can make a world of a difference. And it’s interesting when they’re using certain words because there are some times that they could have chosen to use a different word. So when they’ve used a certain word like that, that can change the entire context of meaning. Cyd: Right. Like saying there’s some reference to judgment at the end of the age. And I’m always thinking that it’s judgment from the Aeons when I see that. But I’m not translating from scratch, I’m taking biblical translation, so what do I know? Bishop Nathan Wilson: You’re spot on though. So you’re correct. So it can translate that as well. And we have to realize that we have different versions of Christianity. So that’s certainly appropriate for a first century understanding. Most people are looking at from fourth century. So you’re looking at it from a first century point of view. And so you’re ahead of others in that sort of case, which is beautiful to see. So that’s rare. And I chose to keep that for that reason. So people can have their own conclusions, not having it forced onto them. Cyd: You are very much into the history of things. You’re an historian. I am not at all interested in history per se. I’m always talking about what other people believed in other times. That is not pertinent to our gnosis here and now. So what do you view the purpose of this deep historical knowledge that you have concerning the Jews and the Essenes and whatnot? And is it necessary to go into all of that? Bishop Nathan Wilson: If you want to, I guess, teach from a historical perspective as well as a spiritual one, then yes. But if you want to go for spiritual, you can just go by the heart. There were plenty of spiritual teachers that were illiterate, that could not read, that could not write, and they had a beautiful message. So there’s something more powerful that we can receive within that you won’t obtain from books. But ultimately, you can also have wisdom gained from books. It can be a form of worship or a form of connecting with the divine as well. We have many forms of worship or many forms of experience what’s divine or having that intimate moment with what’s divine to reflect and to deepen our purpose. I wanted to know the historical man we call Jesus and ultimately put into practice what he put into practice. So I wanted to look at the history side of things and especially also, what’s another word I would like to use, decondition myself, decondition past beliefs that were harmful, that did not serve me and ultimately not serving others, and also find out that I was wrong about many things, which I wanted to know as well. So what brought me to this was to know the man we call Jesus, Yeshua, or Yehoshua, whichever term you like, whichever name you want to use. So I want to know not just that, but I want to know his practices, what he did with his life, how his first followers lived, how the first Christians lived, and what I could use for my own spiritual path and how I could put that into practice. So that’s why I want to look at the history side of things. I think if you want to put into practice the different techniques of all the many different Gnostics, then you’re going to have to look at some of the history side of things to find those practices. That doesn’t mean that every single practice is necessary for you. So what works for me might not work for others. What works for others might not work for me. So double-edged sword. Cyd: What sort of practices are you referring to? Are these rituals? What’s the practices? Bishop Nathan Wilson: I go into some of the ancient rituals as well. Some of them I might look at the prayers that they would use, the diet they would take, or means of worship. So how they would go about their forms of private practice. So that sort of stuff. And then I might apply it into my own life and see how I can go. There’s still more I’d like to go and check out more. So I’m still studying a couple of some of the ancient practices as well. So from different or religious perspectives as well. And then I can see how I can put it to my own form of use. So I looked at a lot of Jewish Christians, they would do the shema for instance, before their meditations. And I’ll do that as well. [“Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one… You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength…”] They also did breath works back then, which would also induce a sense of intoxication if you want to use, or light headness. And in turn that can also open a new state of reality. So entering the spiritual realm can be a vehicle, if you will, to get there. So to open the mind. And that’s also a practice that’s been used in ancient past. And we can certainly use that today. We have modern practices, say like Wim Hof, that teach breath work in meditation. That’s also useful. So sometimes looking at the past, we do see stuff in today’s world that’s not really new. It’s just being basically reentering this world again, from past knowledge gained of old. And I find that in a lot of Gnostic stuff. When you look at history, you kind of see that Gnostics kind of did a lot of things first, that what we’re doing now that we think is modern, but it’s not. It’s ancient. Cyd: That’s why conventional Christians who read my books, they say, oh, you’re just all new age. And I’m like, no, it’s not new age at all. It’s ancient. Bishop Nathan Wilson: Which is a shame that Christians have been shut off into their own world, which is kind of funny. I actually tell most Christians that they are, in fact, new age, because these beliefs are ancient. And what they are going by is, depending on what version of Christianity, if you’re Protestant, that’s 16th century, I believe. Non-denominal, 18th century. Protestant, 16th century. Catholicism, late second century. Orthodoxy, as we know it now, would be about 14th century. But older Orthodoxy, which would be the split from the Catholic church, is fourth century. So it’s when you go to Gnostic Christians, first century, and we’re really the only groups that are surviving, the Jewish Christians got killed. They ultimately were wiped out or would convert to mainstream Judaism or would become Christian or Islam, they would follow as well. So some would be converted to Muslims, which is also interesting as well. We as Gnostics were also harmed by these other groups, by Catholics, Protestants, Muslims as well. At one point Zoroastrians, but that was only one particular era. And we’ve basically arisen from all that, from that underground, and we’ve still survived, which is fascinating. It’s beautiful that we have. And also the texts that have been rediscovered, this is not accidental. This is all happening for a reason. What’s divine is experiencing itself where it can experience itself and express itself again safely in today’s world. In ancient past, it was dangerous to have diversion after the fourth century, which is a shame because the Catholics would kill those who came before them. They didn’t like that. And they even knew that some of the Gnostics, they had older writings, but they still denied them, which is funny. So it’s why such the hate, which is such a shame. So it goes back to that control of power, my way or the highway, basically. And it was never meant to be like that. It was meant to be very universal. It was meant to be very diverse. The first Christians were Gnostics and Jewish Christians, a mixture between strict law observing Jews and a mixture of Gentiles. And then you had the Jewish mystics that became the Christian mystics, which is fascinating. That was the original groups. And the original groups would argue amongst each other. The strict law observing Jews wanted circumcision, where the mystics said, no, no circumcision of the hearts, let the Gentiles come. That’s fine. So even when we look at the word, say, ethnos, for instance, in the Gospels, when you see kingdom against kingdom, nation against nation, these are the same things. So what they’re actually talking about is Gentile against Gentile and kingdom against kingdom. So the Jewish people didn’t have a kingdom at this stage. It was a mixture of Judea, Galilee and Samaria. So we’re the Samaritans. So that’s also something to take into account, too. So they didn’t like that. They were looking for a messiah to reunify the Jewish people, restore the Jewish faith and make Israel a kingdom again. And so some of them didn’t like the fact that Jesus wasn’t after this, for instance. So they didn’t like some of these teachings. It was a bit different. But if you look at the mystics, they had a very different interpretations. They did believe in a renewal of the Jewish faith, but a renewal back to El Elyon and a rejection of Yahweh. So that’s very different. So when you look at repentance, for Israel to repent, meaning for all of Israel to return back to El Elyon. And if you look at for the Gentiles conversion, that would be referring to not converting to any religion, but converting to God. So God outside religion. So fascinating. So you see all this in the original text. Cyd: And why do you suppose, this might be an unanswerable question, but why do you suppose conventional modern Christians are so, you know, extremely antagonistic towards Gnostic Christians? Is it fear or what? Bishop Nathan Wilson: Well, they’ve been told you're the enemy, basically. And yes, some of it is fear. Fear as well of the unknown. And also because of the need of an opponent. So they believe that they are doing a good thing. And if they don’t do this, they can be punished. So it’s the case of where a victim becomes an abuser. So most Christians have never even heard about Gnostics. It’s only the real ones who are into spiritual warfare, basically, and really full on extremist dogmatic ones that are familiar with, and apologetics. But they are now feeling like they’re losing the battle because more people were interested in Gnosticism and especially interested in other Jewish groups and the Dead Sea Scrolls, as well as the Nag Hammadi. So they’re realizing their other texts and there’s other options now. And that’s great. And regarding even my translations, one reason I chose to do it that I did, I found out that no modern English Bible translates from one source material. They’re all a mixture of different sources. So we have the Codex Sinaiticus mixed with the Latin Vulgate, mixing with Germanic copies, and then mixing ancient Koine Greek into modern Hebrew, putting it back into Greek. And that’s not good at all. So we’re just changing—we’re swapping chapters because we feel uncomfortable with them. So I was mortified when I was looking at that. And so I realized I couldn’t trust basically my Bible anymore. So I thought, well, I’m making this myself. And then I thought, well, I’m going to release it. Let’s go and share it too and do what they will with it. And it opened a lot of doorways to me, actually. So that’s one reason I wanted to give that out so people can have their own faith in their own interpretation and also believe in the message of Yeshua, bringing people back to the Most High God, to the Unknowable God, the Living Father, the Mother-Father. And we also see the Mother being mentioned in other texts too. It’s just mostly blocked out by mainstream Christianity, which is unfair, unfair to women and unfair to humanity with their approaches. It’s been very violent. So we need to remove that violence because that’s nothing to do with Yeshua’s teachings. He didn’t teach us to go around fighting each other. He said, Those who are for me are with me. They don’t understand his message. They very much follow the Catholic teachings of Paul that they’ve been given. And so they can look at the Gnostic teachings of Paul as well, which are also in there. Paul’s letters, we now know they’re mostly all forgeries. We don’t have any original copies either. They’re all later fourth century and we have some second century fragments. But the oldest reference to Paul is from the Ten Letters of Marcion. And he’s the man who compiled the first Christian Bible. And some people can argue, some people don’t believe he was a Gnostic. Others think he was a Gnostic. I think he was a type of Gnostic because he believed in a demiurge. So he believed that the God of the Jews was Yahweh and not the Supreme God of Jesus. That is a very Gnostic belief. But the thing is, the word Gnostic was given to us by the Catholic church, was a way of separating us and identifying us. But we wear it as a badge of honor because we understand they’re just calling us knowledgeable Christians, which is kind of funny. So language is powerful and the Catholic church certainly forgot it. So because of them, we now use daimon as demon. So they’ve basically demonized Jesus. They’ve demonized the Holy Spirit, which is their greatest sin. And they’ve demonized God and every other God. So they don’t know what damage they’ve done. And that’s not good. So I wanted to reverse that damage and bring people back to what I believe is the message of Yeshua, of Jesus, and to have their own spiritual relationship with God, an individual relationship, which is something that I want to see more of. That’s a very beautiful thing. You can’t define that intimate experience without living it. Cyd: Right, right. Well, that's all we have time for in this episode. We'll pick it up again next week for part three of my interview with Bishop Nathan Wilson of The Gnostic Union Church.  I like the way he talks, huh? Until next week, onward and upward and God bless us all.

Bishop Nathan Wilson pt.1 Welcome back to Gnostic Insights and to the Gnostic Reformation on Substack. Hey, this week I interviewed Bishop Nathan Wilson of the Gnostic Union, and it was a good long interview, so I’ll be breaking it up probably into three segments for the next three weeks here. Bishop Wilson earned a diploma of ministry from the Gnostic Catholic Union, and then he later went on to create The Gnostic Union, and he’ll tell you about that in this week’s episode. Here I’ll read you the intro from their website. “The Gnostic Union is an independent sacramental assembly of Gnostic Christian communities and individuals. It exists to uphold the Gnostic Christian traditions and to encourage and promote the work of Christ and the Holy Sophia in the world.As an international, independent, autonomous, non-political organization, the Gnostic Union is in no way dependent upon any other authority outside of its own administration. We are neither Roman Catholic, Orthodox, nor Protestant. We are Gnostic Christians that encourage self-development and connecting with the spirit within to build a personal relationship with God, the Monad, the Father. Our bishops, priests, and deacons are merely guides to help you on your spiritual journey. The Gnostic Union aligns itself with the history and teachings of the first Christians of early first century Christianity and the teachings of Jesus Christ as found in the Gospel of Thomas. We encourage new members to read from the Nag Hammadi and to understand how different early Christianity is from modern mainstream Christianity. We welcome all people, regardless of past religious backgrounds or faiths. Gnosis means knowledge, not just simple intellectual knowledge, but deep spiritual knowledge within you. Knowledge from the Spirit, from the Holy Spirit, and from and of God.” You see, I felt that that really went along with what we talk about here at Gnostic Insights, and so when Bishop Wilson reached out to me via our Substack Gnostic Reformation site, I was more than happy to engage in conversation with him, and I thought that having a talk with him along with you and then broadcasting it would be helpful to all of us. Here’s the last little bit that it says on their Gnostic Union homepage, which is only one page long. It’s still in development. It says, “Gnostic Christian theology differs greatly from Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. Gnostic Christianity does not depend upon the authority of a Pope or the Church. Instead, it emphasizes being reborn in Spirit, building a personal spiritual relationship with God, and becoming Christ-like by enacting the teachings of Jesus Christ in our lives. Gnostic Christianity began from earlier Gnostic traditions, such as Hermeticism and Mysticism, which arose from Jewish mystics. Gnosticism itself is much older than Judaism, and traces back to the Hermetics of ancient Egypt, the Druids, and the ancient Greeks. Although many Gnostic Christian theologies differed, they shared a common theme of a trapped spiritual essence within the material body, the divine spark, the soul, or the spark of Sophia. The ultimate goal for Gnostic Christians was to become like Jesus, to be reborn in Spirit, through the baptism of the Holy Spirit, Sophia, and to know thyself, reflecting the divine essence within.” As you know, here at Gnostic Insights and the Gnostic Reformation, I stay away from the histories, because it seems to me that what is important is the here-and-now relationship we have with the Christ and with the Fullness of God. And so, I’m just not all that interested in history, but as you’ll hear from these ongoing interviews with Bishop Wilson, he’s all about history. So, for those of you who have been missing that strain of thought in our Gnostic Insights here, you’ll get an earful for the next three weeks. So without further ado, here's part one of my interview with Bishop Nathan Wilson of The Gnostic Union. Cyd: Well, such a pleasure to see you. You have such a nice smile. Bishop Nathan Wilson:Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It’s a pleasure. It’s always lovely to meet other Gnostics, other spiritual people, all those with open hearts and open minds. It’s always lovely to see. Cyd:Yes. Yes. Yes, it’s true. I wish I had more of these people close around me. Do you have neighbors who are Gnostic? Do you have people you can actually face-to-face with? Bishop Nathan Wilson:I’ve met a priest that I can now speak face-to-face, which was really good. So, it was the first real Gnostic I got to speak to face-to-face. Mostly, I was speaking to many online in other parts of the world, and I kind of felt like I was the only one here in Adelaide, Australia. So, I kind of felt like the one odd villager out. So, it was lovely to meet some other people. I’ve trained people, and other people have done what they wanted. Other people carried on as undercover Gnostics in this world. So, yeah. Cyd:Let me get a formal introduction to you here going. This is Bishop Nathan Wilson of the Gnostic Union, and we have connected through Substack, although you don’t have a Substack presence, do you? You don’t have a site? Bishop Nathan Wilson:No, no. We have got a website in the works, but it’s still in development. I’m not too tech-savvy, but we’ve got other people that are. So, we’re mostly on Facebook and YouTube at the moment. Cyd:Well, wonderful. Now, tell me the difference between the Gnostic Catholic Union and just the Gnostic Union. Bishop Nathan Wilson:Well, we used to be the Gnostic Catholic Union as well until I basically got in charge, and then I removed the Catholic part, which they only had for the Latin reasons, meaning universal, but not everyone knows that Latin subject. They’re just going to see Catholic, and usually today’s world, when you have a Catholic Union, it’s mostly those who have been brought up with a Catholic background that have now found Gnosis, and in turn, carry on those old traditions, which I don’t find anything wrong with. I think there’s many different ways to experience Gnosis. Gnosis doesn’t belong to any religion. It’s something you find within. It’s what you experience, spiritual knowledge gifted to you by what’s divine, by God, by the Father, by the Mother-Father, whichever term you like. The Source. It could even be referenced to, given you to by divine beings, by angels, angelic forces. So, Gnosis is something that you experience. So, it’s yours. It’s personal. It’s intimate. So, it’s a beautiful thing. So, with the Gnostic Union, we are more open to different Gnostic schools of thoughts. So, you could be a Sethian, a Valentinian. You could be a Carpucratian Gnostic, whichever. It doesn’t matter. You could be a Jewish Christian. Whichever the path is—we’re not really dogmatic. So, we appreciate all those who come into this spiritual life, seeking answers, and respecting each other’s beliefs, which is also rare. We have to remember, when we looked at the ancient schools of thought regarding Gnosticism, the ancient Gnostics got along. They didn’t kill each other. They didn’t fight. They had some disagreements, but they shared each other’s writings, which is fantastic. So, that’s very rare when you see that in a religious or even a spiritual school of thought. Many people can be my way only. So, that’s where Gnosis comes in, that inner spiritual experience. So, one’s own personal relationship with what’s divine. The Gnostic Union wants to encourage that, not to be bound by traditions. That’s mostly the difference between the Gnostic Union and the Gnostic Catholics, where they will be more bound by tradition, more bound by a dogmatic experience. We’re not really about that, not dissing any of that. We don’t mind, but we’re more open. Cyd:So, the Gnostic Catholics are still going on? That church is still active, but you have stepped away from them then, in that sense? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Yes, pretty much. So, we’ve done our own independent thing. So, that way we can have more schools of thought. I prefer it like that, so we can all grow from each other, which is something that I’m more about. So, that’s why I went into more of the Gnostic Union sense of things and removing the Catholic part. Some people didn’t like Catholic. Some people liked it and others were stoked that I removed that term from the group. I much prefer it. It’s less of a mouthful as well. I like things nice and simple as well. Cyd:Yes. So, it’s union—it's unity. That’s what the union means in the name, not like a labor union, but the union of Gnostics. That’s lovely. That’s very lovely. So, how many people are associating with the Gnostic Union at this point? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Well, we have a couple of other different groups from different parts of the world. We have a Gnostic Catholic group. I think they’re Gnostic Catholic Unitarians located in the Philippines. Then, we have other groups as well that associate with us. Within the Union itself, we have a couple of different ones. We have also side branches as well that used to be a part of the Gnostic Catholic Union, but there was some theological difference. So, some splitting went on. So, there’s other groups. We still recognize each other. Within the Gnostic Union at the moment. There is Bishop Jason, me, Bishop Nathan Wilson, Bishop Lorenzo, David and Michael, Randall over in South Africa. There’s also Priest Jeremy and Edgar and Rus. So, there’s quite a few. At the moment, it’s mostly men. We’re hoping to have some females join as well. We did have a couple of female members back in the Gnostic Catholic Union, but they ultimately retired. So, we’re hoping to expand. So, the Gnostic Union is kind of fresh on the scene. So, everything’s still building. Cyd:How fresh is it? How long have you been in existence here? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Well, in the Union itself, probably about almost two years now. It’s still maybe a year, year and a half, something like that there. So, it’s still growing in a sense. So, we’re doing okay, which is not too bad. We’re mostly on Facebook and YouTube. So, we do our online masses and group gatherings and stuff like that online as well. And mostly, just support each other’s individual works as well as promote each other’s work. And sometimes, I might edit a couple of videos of all of us together, give it to other people with their own channels, their own independent use, and then I’ll put it onto, say, the Union sites. Other people can go check it out as well. Cyd:I’ll be putting this up on my site. I’m going to post this to YouTube and make it for my audio podcast. But I’ll also give you the recording so that you can use it at your site if you’d like. Bishop Nathan Wilson:Oh, lovely. Lovely. I’d enjoy that as well. And again, thanks for reaching out to me. I very much enjoy speaking to like-minded individuals as well. And regarding even my translations that you brought me on to discuss as well, that’s relatively new as well. It took me about two years to fully actually translate. So, to get it all together, I use encyclopedias, I used Greek, Koine Greek dictionaries, as well as I used Bill Mounce, which is one of the top Koine Greek-speaking people in the world. I have a few friends that can speak Koine Greek as well as modern Greek as well. So, that also came in handy. So, it took me a while. I started doing that while I was still with the Gnostic Catholic Union and I didn’t finish it until the Gnostic Union. Cyd:So, tell us about, you’re speaking of your translation, tell us about that. It’s your New Testament, is it? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Yeah, I did the New Testament Gospels. I used Codex Sinaiticus because that was the oldest complete text, but then I wanted to do non-canonical. I didn’t know any Coptic at all, so I didn’t want to use any other people’s work. I just went to the Koine Greek, used what knowledge I did know, and I also used experts as well. So, I was able to look at every definition of the word and term and use. I did the Gospel of Thomas, which I actually first messed up on because I found out that the version I was looking at first was actually inspired by the Coptic version put into Koine Greek, and I realized it’s not the text. So, I went to the actual fragments themselves, and so I translated from there. It’s not very long. I didn’t use any AI recovery, so anything that wasn’t visible to our naked eye, I did not touch. So, I didn’t want to have any guessing involved. So, I just put what it was, and I did the Greek Gospel of Mary, as well as the Gospel of James, the Gospel of Peter, and I did three unknown Gospels, and they are little fragments, and they are Papyrus Oxyrhynchus. I have the names here. Actually, I better put that in—5072, and the other one was Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 840 and the other one is Egerton Gospel. So, they’re little fragments. The titles are missing. We don’t know who wrote them, so they’re unknown, but they could and likely do predate the Gospels that we do have. So, they predate the fragments we have. So, that’s interesting. So, all the fragments we have are second century. It’s likely they predate the fragments that we have. So, I chose to do them, but the interesting side was the Egerton gospel, which was actually a two-sided text, and Bart D. Ehrman actually did side two, and I did side one. So, he didn’t realize that there was a side on one. So, that means he was only looking at digital copy only, just like me. So, he didn’t actually look at the actual Papyrus itself, and so when I did one-sided, I didn’t realize there was a double side to that text, and so otherwise I wouldn’t have done it. So, the interesting thing is side one has not been publicly released for public domain, where side two has been released, which is very suspect, if you ask me, and I didn’t like that. So, I thought I’d introduce some texts that are very little looked at that were very Gnostic, such as Jesus insulting the Pharisees for dipping in waters that pigs jumped into and making themselves look like prostitutes to attract men. Cyd:They’re highly offensive, yes. Bishop Nathan Wilson:Yes, and that’s why they really want to release that publicly. So, you have to pay a scholar for their works, and that’s not really fair. All this knowledge should be for free, especially when you’re looking at our own religious or spirituality or the text involved in that. Otherwise, we’re limiting ourselves, and that’s definitely not fair. So, I think we should be more open, and the text should be up for public display, public domain for everyone to have access to. So, that’s what I ultimately believe in. It’s one reason I chose to share my translations and make accessible for free digital copies. I didn’t want people to just buy my work rather than download the digital text and just read it for themselves. Go to the library, print it out. It might be cheaper. So, when I do sell my texts, I donate it, like some of it’s a charity anyway, to Make-A-Wish Foundation. So, that’s something I do on my end. So, everything I do, I try not to make money just for myself. I try to do other things with it because I’m not really materialistic. I live very much a monk lifestyle, so I read a lot. Cyd:Yeah. Yeah, I do too. I live like a nun, I say. I’ve got a little cloister where I sleep. I live in a one-room place, so it’s very interesting. Would you explain to us the difference between the Koine Greek and the Coptic Greek and which was written and why are there two different versions? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Okay, well the Coptic, when you see Coptic Greek, that’s devolving into Coptic. So, very early proto-Coptic is what scholars term, is the developing into it. You see it with Greeks in the very language. Otherwise, Coptic language very much is a mixture of Greek and Egyptian. So, Egyptian hieroglyph turned into writing basically, but mixed in with Greek. So, Greek was like the English of the past back then. Hebrew also borrowed from the Greek during the second temple period of Jesus’ time. So, the word Judaism and synagogue are Greek words, for instance. So, a lot of borrowing, but the Greeks also borrowed from the Canaanites, such as the Phoenician language or the alphabet. So, that’s also fascinating. So, the ancient past, it was all about borrowing and making it your own, you know. But yeah, with Greek as well, that would be also evolving as well. So, you have, within the gospel itself, you might have one word being spelt slightly different, but ultimately meaning the same thing. And all that is, is one dialect from another speaking from one coastal region to a different coastal region. Obviously, saying the same thing, it just might be the accent. So, that’s played different in the language. So, it’s like we see hilios or hilion, but it’s the same root message. It’s just one person’s pronouncing it in the market different from this region, because he’s closer to the shore and other ones closer to the inner cities. And that’s basically all. So, Greek’s very advanced. You can have one word that can mean ultimately different meanings. And some words you come across can have hundreds of meanings, and that can make things difficult when translating. So, with the Koine Greek, we only know 70% to 90% of the language. We know the 100% of the alphabetical, but we don’t know every context of use. So, because of that difficulty, I had to add alternative English translations. So, I realized then that every translation we’re reading is just based on someone else’s interpretation of that translation. And it’s like, oh, that kind of sucks, so I put them all in there. So, when you come across the word aftos, for he, she, it, they, them, this one, I leave it as all of that, so, you can choose what that means. Because Jesus is speaking to diverse audiences. He’s speaking to males and females, not just men. And that’s what people forget. It’s like the word for spirit is also very feminine in Hebrew. In Greek, it’s masculine and feminine. So, it’s used as both, which is fascinating as well for the spirit within us, you know. So, but again, that’s going back to that root meaning of feminine, because when you add in the word hagion pneuma you now have the Holy Spirit, but that’s a feminine word of it. Otherwise, the root word of masculine is hagios, but the female name or the feminine version of that concept is hagion. Cyd:Ah, that’s fascinating. Yeah. You run into the same problem when translating Chinese, because Chinese pictograms can just mean many, many things. So, I’ve studied the Tao Te Ching quite a bit, and everybody’s book that’s famous of the Tao Te Ching, it’s their translation out of a hundred choices for every word. So, it’s, I understand quite a bit what you’re saying there. Well, tell me this, what makes you a bishop? How is it that you’re calling yourself bishop? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Well, I was ordained by, well, back when it was the Gnostic Catholic Union, I was ordained by Bishop Bill Thomas, and he was the bishop of a church in Florida. He was running a church. He was an older man, so he’s kind of, he retired for a bit, and now he’s more of a wandering bishop, because he had trouble with the funds of running a church. It’d be quite expensive. So, he was part of an organization that was the Gnostic Catholic Union. A lot of members retired as well, then he took over, and then it kind of went on for a few years, and then they started retiring, and then I joined from there, and I was ordained, and I took up a course with them, started off as a deacon, then became a priest, and then as they were retiring, I was made bishop, basically, and so then I was left with a little bit of the reins. So, it was from there, it was a lot more—more churches were involved. So, some of that has also, a lot of them have also retired or ultimately changed theologies. One of the original members of the Gnostic Catholic Union, I believe, is now either an Orthodox priest or joined the Orthodox Church, and he renounces all his old Gnostic past, which is kind of a shame. So, sometimes that does happen. So, people become wanderers because of, people basically rely solely on one priest, oftentimes, which is also sad, and when one priest moves, people lose passion, and sometimes that’s how it is. So, I prefer to have people more independently on their own, not just say rely on me, I make other people bishops so they can carry on with their own, and from there, expand it. So, someone might have, say, the coin enough to start their own church, and from there, maybe, from there, do whatever they need. So, it inspires, and still something to bring a bit of community in, and have a little bit of recognition from other people, basically. So, I kept that term. I was almost considering to remove the title, bishops and priests, but a lot of the old members wanted to keep it as well, and some of the young ones did as well. So, I thought, well, I’ll keep the term for them in their sake. Otherwise, I was going to keep it as teachers, or brothers and sisters, but I still encourage our members to, when dealing with each other, not just sit there and call each other bishops, or bishopettes, or priests, or priestess, whichever term they prefer. I prefer to call us brothers and sisters, which is more stressed. Even with the outfit some people are talking about, I would tell them, remember that Jesus wouldn’t be wandering around with fancy robes, or wearing collared shirts, or wearing gold jewelry, and say, I’m doing now, in a sense. He was out in the wilderness, gathering with community. So, as blessed as those who are poor, you know, so, which was rare. So, a lot of people wanted money back then. So, he was very much for the poor, which is beautiful to see. There were rich Christians. It doesn’t mean that was strictly only for poor people only. There were ones who were shipfarers, and in turn, would carry their message throughout the ports, or from region to region. Cyd:I was just wondering–you are obviously a Christian Gnostic, as am I. I know that you’re open to all Gnosticism, but Gnostics who reject the notion of the Christ, or the need for the Christ, doesn’t that create some kind of difficulty, let’s say? Bishop Nathan Wilson:It would conflict a little bit, yes. I haven’t really come across ones that more reject the Christ. I wouldn’t mind. I have come across ones who have debated me over it in a sense, which I don’t mind in a sense, but I would also encourage them to say, look at the message. Ultimately, it’s about finding the Christ within, being Christ-like for yourself. It goes back to that root word of the first Christians for Christanos, being little Christs, little anointed ones. So, those who were taken on their masters teaching to be Christ-like. But say we have ones that don’t believe Jesus existed. I don’t mind that, because ultimately it is the message, but I will tell them I do believe because I have reasons. I would say for them to look up, say, Judas Kriakos, which is a grandson of Jesus, which is recorded in history. We have church father writings that actually whinged about Jesus’ family being Jewish Christians and not Catholic. So, that’s interesting. So, why would you whinge about a family if the man did not exist? For instance like that. But ultimately, there were some Gnostics that didn’t believe that Jesus existed, but was rather a spirit or was the myth that you took on yourself. So, I’m okay with that, as long as we don’t conflict with each other, with our hearts, as long as we’re not hating each other. So, we can have separate beliefs, as long as we respect those beliefs. Ultimately, that’s what would stop the disheartening and also the conflictions. end part one of interview Okay, we’re going to stop for this week. This is a good place to stop because next, Bishop Wilson goes on to discuss his translation of the New Testament and also some other Gnostic texts. So, we’ll spend next week talking about his translation that he calls the Gnostic Christian Truth Bible, and we’ll get into that. Also, I did record this entire interview as a Zoom video, and as soon as I get that edited, I’ll be posting it to YouTube so you will be able to find it and watch the interview as Bishop Nathan Wilson and I discuss these things. So, I hope to see you there, and thank you for listening this week, and we’ll pick it up again next week. Until then, God bless us all, and onward and upward. The Gnostic Union Facebook The Gnostic Union YouTube Channel

Bishop Nathan Wilson pt.1 Welcome back to Gnostic Insights and to the Gnostic Reformation on Substack. Hey, this week I interviewed Bishop Nathan Wilson of the Gnostic Union, and it was a good long interview, so I’ll be breaking it up probably into three segments for the next three weeks here. Bishop Wilson earned a diploma of ministry from the Gnostic Catholic Union, and then he later went on to create The Gnostic Union, and he’ll tell you about that in this week’s episode. Here I’ll read you the intro from their website. “The Gnostic Union is an independent sacramental assembly of Gnostic Christian communities and individuals. It exists to uphold the Gnostic Christian traditions and to encourage and promote the work of Christ and the Holy Sophia in the world.As an international, independent, autonomous, non-political organization, the Gnostic Union is in no way dependent upon any other authority outside of its own administration. We are neither Roman Catholic, Orthodox, nor Protestant. We are Gnostic Christians that encourage self-development and connecting with the spirit within to build a personal relationship with God, the Monad, the Father. Our bishops, priests, and deacons are merely guides to help you on your spiritual journey. The Gnostic Union aligns itself with the history and teachings of the first Christians of early first century Christianity and the teachings of Jesus Christ as found in the Gospel of Thomas. We encourage new members to read from the Nag Hammadi and to understand how different early Christianity is from modern mainstream Christianity. We welcome all people, regardless of past religious backgrounds or faiths. Gnosis means knowledge, not just simple intellectual knowledge, but deep spiritual knowledge within you. Knowledge from the Spirit, from the Holy Spirit, and from and of God.” You see, I felt that that really went along with what we talk about here at Gnostic Insights, and so when Bishop Wilson reached out to me via our Substack Gnostic Reformation site, I was more than happy to engage in conversation with him, and I thought that having a talk with him along with you and then broadcasting it would be helpful to all of us. Here’s the last little bit that it says on their Gnostic Union homepage, which is only one page long. It’s still in development. It says, “Gnostic Christian theology differs greatly from Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. Gnostic Christianity does not depend upon the authority of a Pope or the Church. Instead, it emphasizes being reborn in Spirit, building a personal spiritual relationship with God, and becoming Christ-like by enacting the teachings of Jesus Christ in our lives. Gnostic Christianity began from earlier Gnostic traditions, such as Hermeticism and Mysticism, which arose from Jewish mystics. Gnosticism itself is much older than Judaism, and traces back to the Hermetics of ancient Egypt, the Druids, and the ancient Greeks. Although many Gnostic Christian theologies differed, they shared a common theme of a trapped spiritual essence within the material body, the divine spark, the soul, or the spark of Sophia. The ultimate goal for Gnostic Christians was to become like Jesus, to be reborn in Spirit, through the baptism of the Holy Spirit, Sophia, and to know thyself, reflecting the divine essence within.” As you know, here at Gnostic Insights and the Gnostic Reformation, I stay away from the histories, because it seems to me that what is important is the here-and-now relationship we have with the Christ and with the Fullness of God. And so, I’m just not all that interested in history, but as you’ll hear from these ongoing interviews with Bishop Wilson, he’s all about history. So, for those of you who have been missing that strain of thought in our Gnostic Insights here, you’ll get an earful for the next three weeks. So without further ado, here's part one of my interview with Bishop Nathan Wilson of The Gnostic Union. Cyd: Well, such a pleasure to see you. You have such a nice smile. Bishop Nathan Wilson:Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. It’s a pleasure. It’s always lovely to meet other Gnostics, other spiritual people, all those with open hearts and open minds. It’s always lovely to see. Cyd:Yes. Yes. Yes, it’s true. I wish I had more of these people close around me. Do you have neighbors who are Gnostic? Do you have people you can actually face-to-face with? Bishop Nathan Wilson:I’ve met a priest that I can now speak face-to-face, which was really good. So, it was the first real Gnostic I got to speak to face-to-face. Mostly, I was speaking to many online in other parts of the world, and I kind of felt like I was the only one here in Adelaide, Australia. So, I kind of felt like the one odd villager out. So, it was lovely to meet some other people. I’ve trained people, and other people have done what they wanted. Other people carried on as undercover Gnostics in this world. So, yeah. Cyd:Let me get a formal introduction to you here going. This is Bishop Nathan Wilson of the Gnostic Union, and we have connected through Substack, although you don’t have a Substack presence, do you? You don’t have a site? Bishop Nathan Wilson:No, no. We have got a website in the works, but it’s still in development. I’m not too tech-savvy, but we’ve got other people that are. So, we’re mostly on Facebook and YouTube at the moment. Cyd:Well, wonderful. Now, tell me the difference between the Gnostic Catholic Union and just the Gnostic Union. Bishop Nathan Wilson:Well, we used to be the Gnostic Catholic Union as well until I basically got in charge, and then I removed the Catholic part, which they only had for the Latin reasons, meaning universal, but not everyone knows that Latin subject. They’re just going to see Catholic, and usually today’s world, when you have a Catholic Union, it’s mostly those who have been brought up with a Catholic background that have now found Gnosis, and in turn, carry on those old traditions, which I don’t find anything wrong with. I think there’s many different ways to experience Gnosis. Gnosis doesn’t belong to any religion. It’s something you find within. It’s what you experience, spiritual knowledge gifted to you by what’s divine, by God, by the Father, by the Mother-Father, whichever term you like. The Source. It could even be referenced to, given you to by divine beings, by angels, angelic forces. So, Gnosis is something that you experience. So, it’s yours. It’s personal. It’s intimate. So, it’s a beautiful thing. So, with the Gnostic Union, we are more open to different Gnostic schools of thoughts. So, you could be a Sethian, a Valentinian. You could be a Carpucratian Gnostic, whichever. It doesn’t matter. You could be a Jewish Christian. Whichever the path is—we’re not really dogmatic. So, we appreciate all those who come into this spiritual life, seeking answers, and respecting each other’s beliefs, which is also rare. We have to remember, when we looked at the ancient schools of thought regarding Gnosticism, the ancient Gnostics got along. They didn’t kill each other. They didn’t fight. They had some disagreements, but they shared each other’s writings, which is fantastic. So, that’s very rare when you see that in a religious or even a spiritual school of thought. Many people can be my way only. So, that’s where Gnosis comes in, that inner spiritual experience. So, one’s own personal relationship with what’s divine. The Gnostic Union wants to encourage that, not to be bound by traditions. That’s mostly the difference between the Gnostic Union and the Gnostic Catholics, where they will be more bound by tradition, more bound by a dogmatic experience. We’re not really about that, not dissing any of that. We don’t mind, but we’re more open. Cyd:So, the Gnostic Catholics are still going on? That church is still active, but you have stepped away from them then, in that sense? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Yes, pretty much. So, we’ve done our own independent thing. So, that way we can have more schools of thought. I prefer it like that, so we can all grow from each other, which is something that I’m more about. So, that’s why I went into more of the Gnostic Union sense of things and removing the Catholic part. Some people didn’t like Catholic. Some people liked it and others were stoked that I removed that term from the group. I much prefer it. It’s less of a mouthful as well. I like things nice and simple as well. Cyd:Yes. So, it’s union—it's unity. That’s what the union means in the name, not like a labor union, but the union of Gnostics. That’s lovely. That’s very lovely. So, how many people are associating with the Gnostic Union at this point? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Well, we have a couple of other different groups from different parts of the world. We have a Gnostic Catholic group. I think they’re Gnostic Catholic Unitarians located in the Philippines. Then, we have other groups as well that associate with us. Within the Union itself, we have a couple of different ones. We have also side branches as well that used to be a part of the Gnostic Catholic Union, but there was some theological difference. So, some splitting went on. So, there’s other groups. We still recognize each other. Within the Gnostic Union at the moment. There is Bishop Jason, me, Bishop Nathan Wilson, Bishop Lorenzo, David and Michael, Randall over in South Africa. There’s also Priest Jeremy and Edgar and Rus. So, there’s quite a few. At the moment, it’s mostly men. We’re hoping to have some females join as well. We did have a couple of female members back in the Gnostic Catholic Union, but they ultimately retired. So, we’re hoping to expand. So, the Gnostic Union is kind of fresh on the scene. So, everything’s still building. Cyd:How fresh is it? How long have you been in existence here? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Well, in the Union itself, probably about almost two years now. It’s still maybe a year, year and a half, something like that there. So, it’s still growing in a sense. So, we’re doing okay, which is not too bad. We’re mostly on Facebook and YouTube. So, we do our online masses and group gatherings and stuff like that online as well. And mostly, just support each other’s individual works as well as promote each other’s work. And sometimes, I might edit a couple of videos of all of us together, give it to other people with their own channels, their own independent use, and then I’ll put it onto, say, the Union sites. Other people can go check it out as well. Cyd:I’ll be putting this up on my site. I’m going to post this to YouTube and make it for my audio podcast. But I’ll also give you the recording so that you can use it at your site if you’d like. Bishop Nathan Wilson:Oh, lovely. Lovely. I’d enjoy that as well. And again, thanks for reaching out to me. I very much enjoy speaking to like-minded individuals as well. And regarding even my translations that you brought me on to discuss as well, that’s relatively new as well. It took me about two years to fully actually translate. So, to get it all together, I use encyclopedias, I used Greek, Koine Greek dictionaries, as well as I used Bill Mounce, which is one of the top Koine Greek-speaking people in the world. I have a few friends that can speak Koine Greek as well as modern Greek as well. So, that also came in handy. So, it took me a while. I started doing that while I was still with the Gnostic Catholic Union and I didn’t finish it until the Gnostic Union. Cyd:So, tell us about, you’re speaking of your translation, tell us about that. It’s your New Testament, is it? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Yeah, I did the New Testament Gospels. I used Codex Sinaiticus because that was the oldest complete text, but then I wanted to do non-canonical. I didn’t know any Coptic at all, so I didn’t want to use any other people’s work. I just went to the Koine Greek, used what knowledge I did know, and I also used experts as well. So, I was able to look at every definition of the word and term and use. I did the Gospel of Thomas, which I actually first messed up on because I found out that the version I was looking at first was actually inspired by the Coptic version put into Koine Greek, and I realized it’s not the text. So, I went to the actual fragments themselves, and so I translated from there. It’s not very long. I didn’t use any AI recovery, so anything that wasn’t visible to our naked eye, I did not touch. So, I didn’t want to have any guessing involved. So, I just put what it was, and I did the Greek Gospel of Mary, as well as the Gospel of James, the Gospel of Peter, and I did three unknown Gospels, and they are little fragments, and they are Papyrus Oxyrhynchus. I have the names here. Actually, I better put that in—5072, and the other one was Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 840 and the other one is Egerton Gospel. So, they’re little fragments. The titles are missing. We don’t know who wrote them, so they’re unknown, but they could and likely do predate the Gospels that we do have. So, they predate the fragments we have. So, that’s interesting. So, all the fragments we have are second century. It’s likely they predate the fragments that we have. So, I chose to do them, but the interesting side was the Egerton gospel, which was actually a two-sided text, and Bart D. Ehrman actually did side two, and I did side one. So, he didn’t realize that there was a side on one. So, that means he was only looking at digital copy only, just like me. So, he didn’t actually look at the actual Papyrus itself, and so when I did one-sided, I didn’t realize there was a double side to that text, and so otherwise I wouldn’t have done it. So, the interesting thing is side one has not been publicly released for public domain, where side two has been released, which is very suspect, if you ask me, and I didn’t like that. So, I thought I’d introduce some texts that are very little looked at that were very Gnostic, such as Jesus insulting the Pharisees for dipping in waters that pigs jumped into and making themselves look like prostitutes to attract men. Cyd:They’re highly offensive, yes. Bishop Nathan Wilson:Yes, and that’s why they really want to release that publicly. So, you have to pay a scholar for their works, and that’s not really fair. All this knowledge should be for free, especially when you’re looking at our own religious or spirituality or the text involved in that. Otherwise, we’re limiting ourselves, and that’s definitely not fair. So, I think we should be more open, and the text should be up for public display, public domain for everyone to have access to. So, that’s what I ultimately believe in. It’s one reason I chose to share my translations and make accessible for free digital copies. I didn’t want people to just buy my work rather than download the digital text and just read it for themselves. Go to the library, print it out. It might be cheaper. So, when I do sell my texts, I donate it, like some of it’s a charity anyway, to Make-A-Wish Foundation. So, that’s something I do on my end. So, everything I do, I try not to make money just for myself. I try to do other things with it because I’m not really materialistic. I live very much a monk lifestyle, so I read a lot. Cyd:Yeah. Yeah, I do too. I live like a nun, I say. I’ve got a little cloister where I sleep. I live in a one-room place, so it’s very interesting. Would you explain to us the difference between the Koine Greek and the Coptic Greek and which was written and why are there two different versions? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Okay, well the Coptic, when you see Coptic Greek, that’s devolving into Coptic. So, very early proto-Coptic is what scholars term, is the developing into it. You see it with Greeks in the very language. Otherwise, Coptic language very much is a mixture of Greek and Egyptian. So, Egyptian hieroglyph turned into writing basically, but mixed in with Greek. So, Greek was like the English of the past back then. Hebrew also borrowed from the Greek during the second temple period of Jesus’ time. So, the word Judaism and synagogue are Greek words, for instance. So, a lot of borrowing, but the Greeks also borrowed from the Canaanites, such as the Phoenician language or the alphabet. So, that’s also fascinating. So, the ancient past, it was all about borrowing and making it your own, you know. But yeah, with Greek as well, that would be also evolving as well. So, you have, within the gospel itself, you might have one word being spelt slightly different, but ultimately meaning the same thing. And all that is, is one dialect from another speaking from one coastal region to a different coastal region. Obviously, saying the same thing, it just might be the accent. So, that’s played different in the language. So, it’s like we see hilios or hilion, but it’s the same root message. It’s just one person’s pronouncing it in the market different from this region, because he’s closer to the shore and other ones closer to the inner cities. And that’s basically all. So, Greek’s very advanced. You can have one word that can mean ultimately different meanings. And some words you come across can have hundreds of meanings, and that can make things difficult when translating. So, with the Koine Greek, we only know 70% to 90% of the language. We know the 100% of the alphabetical, but we don’t know every context of use. So, because of that difficulty, I had to add alternative English translations. So, I realized then that every translation we’re reading is just based on someone else’s interpretation of that translation. And it’s like, oh, that kind of sucks, so I put them all in there. So, when you come across the word aftos, for he, she, it, they, them, this one, I leave it as all of that, so, you can choose what that means. Because Jesus is speaking to diverse audiences. He’s speaking to males and females, not just men. And that’s what people forget. It’s like the word for spirit is also very feminine in Hebrew. In Greek, it’s masculine and feminine. So, it’s used as both, which is fascinating as well for the spirit within us, you know. So, but again, that’s going back to that root meaning of feminine, because when you add in the word hagion pneuma you now have the Holy Spirit, but that’s a feminine word of it. Otherwise, the root word of masculine is hagios, but the female name or the feminine version of that concept is hagion. Cyd:Ah, that’s fascinating. Yeah. You run into the same problem when translating Chinese, because Chinese pictograms can just mean many, many things. So, I’ve studied the Tao Te Ching quite a bit, and everybody’s book that’s famous of the Tao Te Ching, it’s their translation out of a hundred choices for every word. So, it’s, I understand quite a bit what you’re saying there. Well, tell me this, what makes you a bishop? How is it that you’re calling yourself bishop? Bishop Nathan Wilson:Well, I was ordained by, well, back when it was the Gnostic Catholic Union, I was ordained by Bishop Bill Thomas, and he was the bishop of a church in Florida. He was running a church. He was an older man, so he’s kind of, he retired for a bit, and now he’s more of a wandering bishop, because he had trouble with the funds of running a church. It’d be quite expensive. So, he was part of an organization that was the Gnostic Catholic Union. A lot of members retired as well, then he took over, and then it kind of went on for a few years, and then they started retiring, and then I joined from there, and I was ordained, and I took up a course with them, started off as a deacon, then became a priest, and then as they were retiring, I was made bishop, basically, and so then I was left with a little bit of the reins. So, it was from there, it was a lot more—more churches were involved. So, some of that has also, a lot of them have also retired or ultimately changed theologies. One of the original members of the Gnostic Catholic Union, I believe, is now either an Orthodox priest or joined the Orthodox Church, and he renounces all his old Gnostic past, which is kind of a shame. So, sometimes that does happen. So, people become wanderers because of, people basically rely solely on one priest, oftentimes, which is also sad, and when one priest moves, people lose passion, and sometimes that’s how it is. So, I prefer to have people more independently on their own, not just say rely on me, I make other people bishops so they can carry on with their own, and from there, expand it. So, someone might have, say, the coin enough to start their own church, and from there, maybe, from there, do whatever they need. So, it inspires, and still something to bring a bit of community in, and have a little bit of recognition from other people, basically. So, I kept that term. I was almost considering to remove the title, bishops and priests, but a lot of the old members wanted to keep it as well, and some of the young ones did as well. So, I thought, well, I’ll keep the term for them in their sake. Otherwise, I was going to keep it as teachers, or brothers and sisters, but I still encourage our members to, when dealing with each other, not just sit there and call each other bishops, or bishopettes, or priests, or priestess, whichever term they prefer. I prefer to call us brothers and sisters, which is more stressed. Even with the outfit some people are talking about, I would tell them, remember that Jesus wouldn’t be wandering around with fancy robes, or wearing collared shirts, or wearing gold jewelry, and say, I’m doing now, in a sense. He was out in the wilderness, gathering with community. So, as blessed as those who are poor, you know, so, which was rare. So, a lot of people wanted money back then. So, he was very much for the poor, which is beautiful to see. There were rich Christians. It doesn’t mean that was strictly only for poor people only. There were ones who were shipfarers, and in turn, would carry their message throughout the ports, or from region to region. Cyd:I was just wondering–you are obviously a Christian Gnostic, as am I. I know that you’re open to all Gnosticism, but Gnostics who reject the notion of the Christ, or the need for the Christ, doesn’t that create some kind of difficulty, let’s say? Bishop Nathan Wilson:It would conflict a little bit, yes. I haven’t really come across ones that more reject the Christ. I wouldn’t mind. I have come across ones who have debated me over it in a sense, which I don’t mind in a sense, but I would also encourage them to say, look at the message. Ultimately, it’s about finding the Christ within, being Christ-like for yourself. It goes back to that root word of the first Christians for Christanos, being little Christs, little anointed ones. So, those who were taken on their masters teaching to be Christ-like. But say we have ones that don’t believe Jesus existed. I don’t mind that, because ultimately it is the message, but I will tell them I do believe because I have reasons. I would say for them to look up, say, Judas Kriakos, which is a grandson of Jesus, which is recorded in history. We have church father writings that actually whinged about Jesus’ family being Jewish Christians and not Catholic. So, that’s interesting. So, why would you whinge about a family if the man did not exist? For instance like that. But ultimately, there were some Gnostics that didn’t believe that Jesus existed, but was rather a spirit or was the myth that you took on yourself. So, I’m okay with that, as long as we don’t conflict with each other, with our hearts, as long as we’re not hating each other. So, we can have separate beliefs, as long as we respect those beliefs. Ultimately, that’s what would stop the disheartening and also the conflictions. end part one of interview Okay, we’re going to stop for this week. This is a good place to stop because next, Bishop Wilson goes on to discuss his translation of the New Testament and also some other Gnostic texts. So, we’ll spend next week talking about his translation that he calls the Gnostic Christian Truth Bible, and we’ll get into that. Also, I did record this entire interview as a Zoom video, and as soon as I get that edited, I’ll be posting it to YouTube so you will be able to find it and watch the interview as Bishop Nathan Wilson and I discuss these things. So, I hope to see you there, and thank you for listening this week, and we’ll pick it up again next week. Until then, God bless us all, and onward and upward. The Gnostic Union Facebook The Gnostic Union YouTube Channel

As You Wish Talk Radio with James Gilliland Scott Wolter, Templar Secrets, the Yeshua Scroll, and the Return of the Divine Feminine James Gilliland Introduces a Conversation About Hidden History In this episode of As You Wish Talk Radio, host James Gilliland opens by acknowledging that many people may be feeling emotionally or physically affected by what he describes as intense solar and energetic activity reaching the planet. He then welcomes guest Scott Wolter, describing him as a forensic geologist, television host, author, and researcher of controversial artifacts, the Knights Templar, Freemasonry, and alternative interpretations of North American history. Scott begins by discussing his latest book, which he says is based on family-held journals documenting four centuries of Templar history and the fate of what he identifies as the Templar treasure. The Knights Templar and a Suppressed Spiritual Tradition Scott presents his understanding of the Knights Templar as more than a medieval military order associated with the Catholic Church. According to him, the order's inner leadership followed a Gnostic Christian tradition rooted in Jesus, Mary Magdalene, John the Baptist, and an older sacred lineage that honored the feminine and regarded male and female as equal expressions of the divine. He describes the Templars' suppression in the early fourteenth century, their alleged continuation through later leadership and documents, and his own initiation into a modern branch of the tradition. Scott says his present role is not to carry a sword, but to use words and actions to educate people about what he believes are concealed historical truths. Indigenous Connections, Sacred Feminine Values, and North American Evidence The conversation moves to Scott's belief that Templars traveled to North America and formed relationships with Indigenous peoples. He contrasts them with earlier Vikings, whom he says did not respect Indigenous culture, while claiming that the Templars shared spiritual principles involving sacred rituals, brotherhood, and honor for the divine feminine. He connects this interpretation to his work on the Kensington Rune Stone, which he regards as a Templar land claim and as evidence that the order reached Minnesota. James and Scott agree that mainstream historical, academic, religious, and governmental institutions often preserve controlled narratives while dismissing evidence or experiences that do not fit accepted explanations. Mary, Spiritual Experiences, and the Divine Feminine James shares personal spiritual experiences, including a childhood encounter he believes involved Mother Mary when he was critically ill and later photographic evidence he says depicts Mary and other beings appearing during gatherings. He explains that the message he received from Mary was that she was not limited to Catholicism but was present for all children. Scott responds by describing his own encounter with a female spiritual presence and his friendship with another experiencer who, he says, encountered the same being. The two men discuss the emergence of the divine feminine, the need for spiritual balance, and their belief that feminine spiritual power is especially significant amid present-day harm toward children and humanity. The Scroll's Message About Yeshua, Mary Magdalene, and Divinity Within A central portion of the episode concerns a scroll Scott says he helped decode and publicize through interviews and podcasts. Scott describes the scroll as containing messages attributed to Yeshua, including the claim that he was “not entirely human,” survived after being placed in a family tomb, healed himself, was freed by his wife, traveled north, taught a dual-gendered understanding of God, fathered two children, later returned to Jerusalem, and eventually ascended in spirit while his body was placed in a family tomb. James interprets these ideas through his own teachings about extraterrestrial lineage, Mary's spiritual genetics, archangels as nonhuman beings, and a divine intervention involved in Yeshua's birth. Both say the scroll validates their view that the divine is within every person, that the sacred feminine and masculine belong together, and that teachings of unity have been obscured by patriarchal religious systems. Critical Thinking, Collective Consciousness, and the Coming Shift Scott and James also discuss opposition they have faced from academics, religious critics, and people who dismiss unconventional research or spiritual experiences. Scott defends his forensic background and argues that physical evidence should be examined publicly rather than rejected because it conflicts with conventional history. James connects this to his own experiences with unidentified craft, beings, healings, and spiritual messages. Toward the end, Scott asks James about a future date and spiritual event associated with Yeshua; James says he expects a major energetic or consciousness shift rather than a literal physical return. The episode closes with both men encouraging open-mindedness, love, pure intention, personal transformation, and a willingness to move beyond fear and division during a period they believe is revealing hidden truths and expanding human consciousness.

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(New Advent)Tertullian, Against the Valentinians — for the hostile tradition about Valentinus, the branching of the school, “two schools / two chairs,” and Axionicus at Antioch. (New Advent)Hippolytus of Rome, Refutation of All Heresies — for Valentinus traditions, including the visionary material and the poem usually called “Summer Harvest.” (New Advent)Eusebius of Caesarea, Ecclesiastical History — for Irenaeus' letters to Blastus and Florinus, and the notice about On the Ogdoad. (New Advent)Origen, Commentary on John — the major witness preserving Heracleon's interpretations through quotation and paraphrase. (DIVA Portal)The Gospel of Truth (Nag Hammadi Codex I) — for the inner Valentinian preaching voice and the line “The gospel of truth is joy.” (Gnosis)The Treatise on the Resurrection / Letter to Rheginos (Nag Hammadi Codex I) — for realized resurrection theology and the line that the world is illusion rather than the resurrection. (Gnosis)The Tripartite Tractate (Nag Hammadi Codex I) — for the great Valentinian theological blueprint and the threefold anthropology of spiritual, psychic, and material humanity. (Early Christian Writings)The Gospel of Philip — for bridal-chamber language, sacramental symbolism, and later Valentinian ritual interpretation. (Gnosis)Valentinian Liturgical Readings / A Valentinian Exposition (Nag Hammadi Codex XI) — for anointing, baptism, and eucharistic ritual language in Valentinian circles. (Gnosis)Modern scholarshipEinar Thomassen, The Spiritual Seed: The Church of the “Valentinians” — the major modern study of Valentinianism as a real Christian movement with institutional and historical development. (Gnosis Study)Ismo Dunderberg, Beyond Gnosticism: Myth, Lifestyle, and Society in the School of Valentinus — for the social world, ethics, and lifestyle dimensions of Valentinian Christianity. (Columbia University Press)Philip L. Tite, Valentinian Ethics and Paraenetic Discourse: Determining the Social Function of Moral Exhortation in Valentinian Christianity — for exhortation, identity formation, and ethics in Valentinian communities. (Gnosis Study)Paul Linjamaa, The Ethics of The Tripartite Tractate (NHC I, 5): A Study of Determinism and Early Christian Philosophy of Ethics — for determinism, responsibility, and ethics in the Tripartite Tractate. (OAPEN)Carl Johan Berglund, Origen's References to Heracleon: A Quotation-Analytical Study — for the reconstruction of Heracleon through Origen and the count of verbatim quotations and summaries. (Google Books)Geoffrey S. Smith, Valentinian Christianity: Texts and Translations — for a balanced modern collection of extant Valentinian writings and the broader psalm-book / fragment tradition. (Amazon)Gregory Snyder, “A Second-Century Christian Inscription from the Via Latina” — for NCE 156, the Via Latina context, and the Roman funerary evidence. (Academia)Gregory Snyder, “The Discovery and Interpretation of the Flavia Sophe Inscription: New Results” — for Flavia Sophe, second-century dating arguments, and nuptial funerary imagery. (ResearchGate)Gregory Snyder, “Bed, Bath, and Burial: NCE 156 Revisited” — for the funerary reading of NCE 156 and the bridal-chamber / mortuary interpretation. (Academia)Gražina Kelmelytė, “The Concept of Bridal Chamber in the Valentinian Inscriptions” — for the bridal chamber as a polysemous symbol in Flavia Sophe and NCE 156. (ResearchGate)M. David Litwa, “Deification and Defecation: Valentinus Fragment 3 and the Physiology of Jesus's Digestion” — for the ancient physiological background of Valentinus' saying about Christ's incorrupt digestion. (ResearchGate)M. David Litwa, “A Newly Identified Letter of Valentinus on Jesus's Digestive System” — for the argument that the digestion fragment may belong to a wider Valentinian epistolary context. (Academia)Studies on the Nag Hammadi codices and their readers — for codicology, scribal overlap, provenance, and the late-antique material context of Codex I and related manuscripts. (Gnosis)Modern reception and afterlivesEcclesia Gnostica — for modern sacramental Gnostic Christian practice and public continuation of Gnostic liturgy. (Gnosis)Aleister Crowley, Liber XV: Ecclesiae Gnosticae Catholicae Canon Missae — for Valentinus in the saint-roll of the Gnostic Mass. (University of California Press)C. G. Jung, Seven Sermons to the Dead — for the modern psychological afterlife of terms like pleroma. (Gnosis)Modern philosophical readings of The Matrix using Valentinian questions and structure — for the contemporary survival of the awakening / false-world / return pattern. (Academia)Also want to remind people about the website, if you're into reading we have tons of information by multiple contributors, and we got t-shirts up on the site if you're interested. Fun fact, the art is all based on the eyeball. Now let me introduce the rest of the panel and guests.

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(New Advent)Tertullian, Against the Valentinians — for the hostile tradition about Valentinus, the branching of the school, “two schools / two chairs,” and Axionicus at Antioch. (New Advent)Hippolytus of Rome, Refutation of All Heresies — for Valentinus traditions, including the visionary material and the poem usually called “Summer Harvest.” (New Advent)Eusebius of Caesarea, Ecclesiastical History — for Irenaeus' letters to Blastus and Florinus, and the notice about On the Ogdoad. (New Advent)Origen, Commentary on John — the major witness preserving Heracleon's interpretations through quotation and paraphrase. (DIVA Portal)The Gospel of Truth (Nag Hammadi Codex I) — for the inner Valentinian preaching voice and the line “The gospel of truth is joy.” (Gnosis)The Treatise on the Resurrection / Letter to Rheginos (Nag Hammadi Codex I) — for realized resurrection theology and the line that the world is illusion rather than the resurrection. (Gnosis)The Tripartite Tractate (Nag Hammadi Codex I) — for the great Valentinian theological blueprint and the threefold anthropology of spiritual, psychic, and material humanity. (Early Christian Writings)The Gospel of Philip — for bridal-chamber language, sacramental symbolism, and later Valentinian ritual interpretation. (Gnosis)Valentinian Liturgical Readings / A Valentinian Exposition (Nag Hammadi Codex XI) — for anointing, baptism, and eucharistic ritual language in Valentinian circles. (Gnosis)Modern scholarshipEinar Thomassen, The Spiritual Seed: The Church of the “Valentinians” — the major modern study of Valentinianism as a real Christian movement with institutional and historical development. (Gnosis Study)Ismo Dunderberg, Beyond Gnosticism: Myth, Lifestyle, and Society in the School of Valentinus — for the social world, ethics, and lifestyle dimensions of Valentinian Christianity. (Columbia University Press)Philip L. Tite, Valentinian Ethics and Paraenetic Discourse: Determining the Social Function of Moral Exhortation in Valentinian Christianity — for exhortation, identity formation, and ethics in Valentinian communities. (Gnosis Study)Paul Linjamaa, The Ethics of The Tripartite Tractate (NHC I, 5): A Study of Determinism and Early Christian Philosophy of Ethics — for determinism, responsibility, and ethics in the Tripartite Tractate. (OAPEN)Carl Johan Berglund, Origen's References to Heracleon: A Quotation-Analytical Study — for the reconstruction of Heracleon through Origen and the count of verbatim quotations and summaries. (Google Books)Geoffrey S. Smith, Valentinian Christianity: Texts and Translations — for a balanced modern collection of extant Valentinian writings and the broader psalm-book / fragment tradition. (Amazon)Gregory Snyder, “A Second-Century Christian Inscription from the Via Latina” — for NCE 156, the Via Latina context, and the Roman funerary evidence. (Academia)Gregory Snyder, “The Discovery and Interpretation of the Flavia Sophe Inscription: New Results” — for Flavia Sophe, second-century dating arguments, and nuptial funerary imagery. (ResearchGate)Gregory Snyder, “Bed, Bath, and Burial: NCE 156 Revisited” — for the funerary reading of NCE 156 and the bridal-chamber / mortuary interpretation. (Academia)Gražina Kelmelytė, “The Concept of Bridal Chamber in the Valentinian Inscriptions” — for the bridal chamber as a polysemous symbol in Flavia Sophe and NCE 156. (ResearchGate)M. David Litwa, “Deification and Defecation: Valentinus Fragment 3 and the Physiology of Jesus's Digestion” — for the ancient physiological background of Valentinus' saying about Christ's incorrupt digestion. (ResearchGate)M. David Litwa, “A Newly Identified Letter of Valentinus on Jesus's Digestive System” — for the argument that the digestion fragment may belong to a wider Valentinian epistolary context. (Academia)Studies on the Nag Hammadi codices and their readers — for codicology, scribal overlap, provenance, and the late-antique material context of Codex I and related manuscripts. (Gnosis)Modern reception and afterlivesEcclesia Gnostica — for modern sacramental Gnostic Christian practice and public continuation of Gnostic liturgy. (Gnosis)Aleister Crowley, Liber XV: Ecclesiae Gnosticae Catholicae Canon Missae — for Valentinus in the saint-roll of the Gnostic Mass. (University of California Press)C. G. Jung, Seven Sermons to the Dead — for the modern psychological afterlife of terms like pleroma. (Gnosis)Modern philosophical readings of The Matrix using Valentinian questions and structure — for the contemporary survival of the awakening / false-world / return pattern. (Academia)Also want to remind people about the website, if you're into reading we have tons of information by multiple contributors, and we got t-shirts up on the site if you're interested. Fun fact, the art is all based on the eyeball. Now let me introduce the rest of the panel and guests.

Hidden deep within the Ardennes forest of Belgium sits one of the most mysterious and heavily guarded locations in the world—the Château des Amerois. In this episode, Joel Thomas examines the history, the claims, and the spiritual implications surrounding this infamous location—often referred to as the “Mothers of Darkness” castle.The Ardennes itself has long been considered a liminal region, marked by ancient pagan worship, Gnostic Christian mysticism, and some of the most intense occult history in Europe. Originally built as a Catholic estate, the château's beginnings stand in stark contrast to the theories that surround it today—claims of elite gatherings, occult rituals, and hidden networks operating behind the scenes. From connections to powerful families… to the shadows of the Marc Dutroux case… to the alleged presence of a Black Madonna tied to deeper symbolic interpretations—this story exists in the tension between documented history and testimony. So the question remains, Is Château des Amerois simply a historic estate surrounded by rumor… or something far more significant?Ronald Bernard Full Interview: Watch HereRonald Bernard YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RonaldBernard Merchandise: https://freetherabbits.myshopify.comBuy Me A Coffee: DonateFollow: Website | Instagram | X | FacebookWatch: YouTube | RumbleMusic: YouTube | Spotify | Apple Music Films: https://merkelfilms.com Email: freetherabbitspodcast@gmail.comDistributed by: merkel.mediaIntro Music:Joel Thomas – Free The RabbitsYouTube | Spotify | Apple MusicOutro Music:Joel Thomas – Jekyll Island feat. Quan DukeYouTube | Spotify | Apple MusicTopics Discussed:Château des Amerois, Mothers of Darkness, Ardennes forest, occult history of Belgium, Black Madonna symbolism, Solvay family, elite networks, Marc Dutroux case, secret societies, pagan and Christian intersections, liminal spaces, thousand points of light, spiritual warfare

"I'm a feminist theologian who was excommunicated and I'd been a Gnostic Christian for 15 years. I didn't know where to start. We let Christ, the living bridge be the bridge between us. We didn't presume to come from our own perspectives. You know, I was saying things like. "Well, you know, I was excommunicated. Do we need to go back and revisit all of that?" And they said, "No, no. All we care about is your relationship with Christ. Tell us about your faith and your relationship with Christ and with God." And so I did and we just turned it over to God and prayed and then it was beautiful. This is what's hard for a lot of my friends and a lot of feminists to understand. Like, was I recapitulating? Was I surrendering? Was I giving up my feminism? No. They never asked me to recant or give up anything. We were exploring a new relationship between feminists and church leaders. I saw them as my brothers. They were like pillars. They were so loving and so kind, and it was just utterly healing." 00:00 Excommunicated over Women's Studies04:39 Maxine's Historical and Theological Journey15:00 Excommunication and Its Impact20:26 Exploring Other Faiths and Gnostic Christianity32:10 Divine Feminine in LDS Doctrine35:03 Returning to the Church38:09 Feminism and Healing46:58 Experiencing the Body of ChristLatter day MatchMaker Serve Clothing code COMEBACK for 15% offhttps://serveclothing.com/memor jewelry - 10% Discount code: COMEBACKhttps://memorjewelry.com/Serve Clothing code COMEBACK for 15% offhttps://serveclothing.com/If you have a story to share please contact ashly.comebackpodcast@gmail.comFor inquiries contact info.comebackpodcast@gmail.comCome Back Team:Director, Founder, & Host: Ashly StoneEditor: Cara ReedOutreach Manager: Jenna CarlsonAssistant Editor: Michelle BergerAssistant Editor: Britt SmallzeArt Director: Jeremy GarciaProduction Director: Trent Wardwell

“I always do what the voices in my head tell me what to do.” That's become a familiar gag line. I don't want to recommend psychosis as a lifestyle, but recently while rereading Carl Jung's biography, Memories, Dreams, Reflections, I was struck by how much emphasis he puts on trusting cues from the unconscious mind even when they don't seem to make any rational sense. There's one such cue that has tugged at me persistently for much of my adult life. It's the feeling that as I've been developing the methodology of evolutionary astrology as I practice it and teach it, that what I was experiencing was more like a process of remembering than one of me actually inventing anything.  There's a problem though – ostensibly, what we call evolutionary astrology only dates back to the 1970s and 1980s. I was born in 1949. How could I have been “remembering” something that hadn't been invented yet? Last May, I taught a class in Athens, Greece, primarily for students in my school. There were many signs and omens that I had some unresolved karma with that country so I approached the trip with some nervousness. I don't want to be too personal in this essay, but if you want the deep background, go to forrestastrology.center and search for one of my “Master's Musings” blogs from June 2025 called “What Greece Meant To Me.” The upshot is that there is much indirect evidence from various sources that, in a prior lifetime, I was a Gnostic Christian in that region of the world in the first or second centuries, C.E.  True or not, the problem still remains: how could I have experienced anything like evolutionary astrology almost two thousand years ago? At first there seems to be no rational support for such a notion. But as strange as it may seem, I have come to believe that a Gnostic in the Roman Empire culture of the second century C.E. would actually find much that was familiar in the work that we contemporary evolutionary astrologers are doing today, at least at the philosophical level.

On January 23rd the Hermetic Hour with host Poke Runyon will present an essay "The Jesus Myth" - Christianity's only hope -- which will be a counter argument to the evangelical Christian position that the so-called Jesus Myth based on the Naassene Document, a 1st or 2nd century Gnostic Christian scripture, presenting Jesus as the last of a recurring cycle of dieing Pagan Gods resurrected by Pagan Goddesses such as: Tammuz and Ishtar, Osiris and Isis, Baal and Astarte, Venus and Adonis, ctc., culminating in Jesus and Mary Magdalene. The fundamentalists contend that this idea undermines the historical Jesus (they reinforce this by mixing in other Gnostic Christian views that Jesus did not die on the cross, which was not a part of the original Naassene proposition.)     As Valentinian Gnostic Rosicrucians, we contend that the Jesus Myth as set forth in the Naassene Document is not only valid as scripture, but that it represents Christianity's only hope of survival against its awful record, both Orthodox and Protestant,of exploitation, prejudicial persecution, hypocrisy and patriarchalism. So tune and help us defend our tradition. Music Credits: Opening: Seian by Ali Kesanto Closing: Sneaking Around the Mansion by John Abbot

This is a selection of "Sayings of Jesus" from the gnostic Gospel of St. Thomas (translated by Stephen J. Patterson and James M. Robinson) plus a few other selections of Jesus' key teachings from other gospels. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-versions-and-translations/the-gospel-of-thomas-114-sayings-of-jesus/ Here's the link to various other translations: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html The Gospel of Thomas (also known as the Coptic Gospel of Thomas) is a non-canonical sayings gospel. It was discovered near Nag Hammadi, Egypt, in December 1945 among a group of books known as the Nag Hammadi library. Scholars speculate that the works were buried in response to a letter from Bishop Athanasius declaring a strict canon of Christian scripture. Scholars have proposed dates of composition as early as AD 60 and as late as AD 140. The Coptic-language text, the second of seven contained in what modern-day scholars have designated as Codex II, is composed of 114 sayings attributed to Jesus. In the Gnostic Christian tradition, Christ is seen as a divine being which has taken human form in order to lead humanity back to the Light. The usual meaning of gnostikos in Classical Greek texts is "learned" or "intellectual". Art image - "Ground" by Dan Hillier used with kind permission of the artist. Please see Dan's incredible art at: https://danhillier.com/ Music: Father Archimandrite Serafim Bit-Kharibi and his choir - Saint- Petersburg

Subjected to more criticism than any other book now incorporated in the New Testament, the Apocalypse -- popularly accredited to St. John the Divine -- is by far the most important but least understood of the Gnostic Christian writings. Though Justin Martyr declared the Book of Revelation to have been written by "John, one of Christ's apostles," its authorship was disputed as early as the second century after Christ. In the third century these contentions became acute and even Dionysius of Alexandria and Eusebius attacked the Johannine theory, declaring that both the Book of Revelation and the Gospel according to St. John were written by one Cerinthus, who borrowed the name of the great apostle the better to foist his own doctrines upon the Christians. Later Jerome questioned the authorship of the Apocalypse and during the Reformation his objections were revived by Luther and Erasmus. The once generally accepted notion that the Book of Revelation was the actual record of a "mystical experience" occurring to St. John while that seer was an exile in the Isle of Parmos is now regarded with disfavor by more critical scholars. Other explanations have therefore been advanced to account for the symbolism permeating the volume and the original motive for its writing. The more reasonable of these theories may be summed up as follows: First, upon the weight of evidence furnished by its own contents the Book of Revelation may well be pronounced a pagan writing -- one of the sacred books of the Eleusinian or Phrygian Mysteries. As a corollary, the real author of a work setting forth the profundities of Egyptian and Greek mysticism must have been an initiate himself and consequently obligated to write only in the symbolic language of the Mysteries. Second, it is possible that the Book of Revelation was written to reconcile the seeming discrepancies between the early Christian and pagan religious philosophies. When the zealots of the primitive Christian Church sought to Christianize pagandom, the pagan initiates retorted with a powerful effort to paganize Christianity. The Christians failed but the pagans succeeded. With the decline of paganism the initiated pagan hierophants transferred their base of operations to the new vehicle of primitive Christianity, adopting the symbols of the new cult to conceal those eternal verities which are ever the priceless possession of the wise. 

Welcome Adeenah to the show! Adeenah is the founder of Feminine Healing Ministries, a gnostic ministry for women who want to deepen their relationship with God through their own internal knowing.

It's time for another episode in the fairytales in focus series and this week the dragons are delving into one of the best known and (inexplicably?) best beloved. The tale of the Sleeping Beauty has gone through many permutations over the centuries and most likely has an oral tradition that was even older. It has been co-opted by Medieval Romantic poetry, pops up in Norse sagas, and was even used as code for aspects of Gnostic Christian movements. So what is it about this story which is so enduring? Is it the cursed child theme? The political coding in some versions? Or does it resonate with something even deeper? Find out in this weeks extended episode. On the slab this week - The Witchwood Knot - Olivia Atwater, A Long Long Sleep - Anna Sheehan, Tchaikovsky's ballet and many more.   Title music: Ecstasy by Smiling Cynic 

Cub Kuker Supernatural Podcast EP382 The Apocryphon of John, is a Gnostic text found among the Nag Hammadi library, a collection of ancient Gnostic texts discovered in Egypt in 1945. The Apocryphon of John is attributed to John the Apostle but is considered to be a product of early Gnostic Christian communities. This text presents a unique cosmological and theological perspective, and the following focuses on "The Four Luminaries." The Self-Conceived God and the Anointed: The passage begins by describing the source of the luminaries as the "self-conceived god" and the "anointed." The "anointed" likely refers to Christ, who is associated with light and divinity in various Christian traditions. The Three Beings: The three beings mentioned are identified as will, thought, and life. These are fundamental aspects of divine existence in the Gnostic cosmology. Will: Represents the divine will or intention. Thought: Represents divine intellect or wisdom. Life: Represents the essence of divine life. The Four Powers: The four powers are understanding, grace, perception, and thoughtfulness. These powers emanate from the divine and contribute to the order and structure of the created world. The Four Luminaries and Twelve Eternal Realms: The luminaries are spiritual entities associated with different realms, and each luminary has three accompanying realms. Here's a breakdown: Harmozel (First Luminary): Eternal Realms: Grace, Truth, Form. Oroiael (Second Luminary): Eternal Realms: Afterthought, Perception, Memory. Daveithai (Third Luminary): Eternal Realms: Understanding, Love, Idea. Eleleth (Fourth Luminary): Eternal Realms: Perfection, Peace, Sophia. These luminaries and realms collectively stand before the "self-conceived god," indicating their divine order and connection to the ultimate source. The Holy Spirit and Divine Will: The passage concludes by mentioning that everything, including the establishment of the realms and luminaries, was done by the will of the Holy Spirit (Mother) through the self-conceived one (Father). This emphasizes the role of the Holy Spirit (Mother) in the divine creative process. In summary, this passage from the Apocryphon of John outlines a Gnostic cosmology, detailing the emanation of luminaries and eternal realms from the self-conceived god, with a focus on the qualities and powers associated with each luminary. Note: Always do your own research in regard to any theory. These notes represent my research alone, and not necessarily mainstream theories. ___________________________ I Explore Supernatural Mythōs. Unlock More As A Member! ↘️

It's as-if those who composed the Gospel of John decided to create a hymnbook. This is about the little-known discovery of a collection of early Christian psalms called, The Book of the Odes, written in Syriac-Aramaic, described by scholars as "some of the most beautiful songs of peace and joy that the world possesses." The Odes got mislabeled, misfiled, misunderstood, misplaced somewhere along the way becoming one of those Lost Books of the Bible. Time to explore this would-be book of New Testament psalms and that is finally gaining long overdue recognition and popularity in the 21st Century. This is one of two podcasts I've devoted to this inspiring collection of mystic-poems  and music -- The Odes of Solomon -- once viewed as a sacred text by Jewish Christians, Syriac Eastern Christianity, various Gnostic movements -- it's quoted in Pistis Sophia -- and other early Christian writings.  (Lost Books of the Bible)   References, Subjects, and Sources Include    Hymns, Psalms, Odes of Solomon, New Testament, Book of the Odes, New Testament Psalms, A New New Testament, Extra Canonical, Scriptures, Lost Books of the Bible, Bible, Apocrypha, Pseudepigrapha, Gnostic Scriptures, Early Christianity, Jesus Movement, Early Church, Christianity, Restoration, Gospel of John, Logos, The Word, Syriac, Aramaic, Greek, Coptic, Antioch, Syria, John Community, Johannite, Lectio Divina, Contemplation, Meditation, Sant Mat Radhasoami, Santmat, Sant Mat, Radhasoami, Radhaswami, Satsang,  Essenes, Ebionites, Gnosticism, Mystics, Religion, Mystic Poetry, Spirituality, Spiritual Podcasts, Spiritual Radio, Spiritual Seekers, Search For God, Cloud of Unknowing, Metaphysical Meditations, Paramahansa Yogananda, Confessions of Jacob Boehme, Saint John of the Cross, Nag Hammadi Library, Pistis Sophia, Egypt;   In Divine Love (Bhakti), Light, and Sound, At the Feet of the Masters, James Bean Spiritual Awakening Radio Podcasts Sant Mat Satsang Podcasts Sant Mat Radhasoami A Satsang Without Walls Spiritual Awakening Radio Website: https://www.SpiritualAwakeningRadio.com    

In this intriguing episode, Taymour Elalfy joins Aba Al-Sadiq (From Him Is Peace) to delve into the concept of purity in religion, both in its physical and spiritual dimensions. The discussion encompasses states of religious purity, ritual impurity, and their implications in Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Exploring notions such as the ritual impurity associated with contact with certain animals and the restrictions placed on menstruating women, the conversation provides valuable insights into religious practices. The episode further touches upon how non-believers are viewed in terms of ritual purity and its resonance in the story of Jesus and the Canaanite woman. By establishing the existence of impurities, the conversation naturally leads to the consideration of purifying elements, drawing from the scriptures of Christianity and Islam. Examples include the use of saliva by prophets for healing and the sanctity attributed to their bodily emissions. Additionally, this episode uncovers buried accounts from Gnostic Christian sources, deliberately omitted by church authorities. These texts reveal that some early Christians practiced a form of communion based on their secret gospels, portraying a Jesus vastly different from mainstream narratives. Buckle your seat belts for a wild ride through the uncharted territories of ancient Christian traditions! And find you the teaching that made the disciples themselves shake to their very core. Join us for an enlightening exploration that sheds light on the intricate dynamics of purity and impurity in religious contexts.

Show Open: Christmas Tree update, seasonal hecticness and family random notes.9:18: One more thought on self-care: living faithfully within our finitude.15:28 We're such dependent creatures (food).16:43 Incorporating the Lord's prayer.21:07: Doug Wilson on celebrating the materiality of Christmas.25:54 Robert Farrar Capon and cottage cheese.27:41: Christians living in a material world.29:01: The feasts and the festivals.30:42: Christian gnosticism confused with holiness.33:10 “Kind” is a Biblical category, “nice” is not.35:35: Dr. Jon Money and the precursor to modern transgenderism.39:04: Cultural expectations and being kind to those in sin.43:06: Contrast between grace and kindness.45:17: Molly's dad's been making some killer summer sausage.47:58: Show close banter, invite to our Christmas party! Too Busy to Flush Telegram GroupSend us a PostcardPique Tea - Referral Link (Website)Molly's Favorite Milk Brother (new version)

Faction Cannot Prevail (8)   (audio)   David Eells – 8/2/23  Impostor Seducer Anonymous – 7/25/23 (David's notes in red)  I dreamed this man came over leading another man and around 4 women that came and sat in the lake with us. (The lake represented peoples as in scripture in Revelations.) The leader man sat next to David and was acting to David as if he was best friends and acting so very friendly. (Kevin C. Rea did act this way. He was always an impostor seducing people to think he was a good person. For years he fell into every faction that came by to prove he was not.)  As soon as I looked in the leader man's eyes, I saw demons of sexual lust and perversion. (The dreams of our men and women especially, proved this and they were fulfilled in his actions, but we treated him with love and did our best to help him change.)   His “personality” was like a salesperson that has much self-confidence and uses flattery and nice words to trick people to like him and to listen to him. He was that kind of person. (Yes, this is Kevin, he is selling himself as someone he isn't, but the dreamer did not know him and when witchcraft and perversion was added to him because of this he used it to seduce women and a man.) I didn't feel I could trust him at all, and he didn't seem genuine, but it was like he had many faces that he would hide behind. (But this man was the type of man that many people were attracted to because of his false “qualities” which were just acting.)   David and Michael were genuine and kind to this man like they are with everyone, but they seemed to be weary also. (True) The leader man just talked so much as if he was with the UBM and as if he was really important and he had much pride. It was made known that the man with him was a close friend of his and he constantly stayed next to him shoulder to shoulder agreeing with everything he said. (This is Eddie Brast.) It seemed like he was in love with him. (This is true. He believed every lie Kevin told him and dreams and actions proved this was a bisexual relationship. The leader always hung out and spoke to the factious bisexuals and homosexuals from earlier factions.) But the 4 women had just met these guys at the lake.   The leader man then went and got these printed papers and they were stapled together. He handed out one each to all of us except Michael and David. I quickly skimmed through it, and it was basically all these pictures and words trying to convince the reader that this leader man is an awesome man and if you follow him and be friends with him, he will give you whatever you want or desire. But everything in there was highly sugar coated and naturally it looked innocent and good but what was really behind it was evil.  (He is controlled by seducing acting demons and witchcraft. He is putting on a show.) I overheard the 4-women saying they love it and a few of them desperately desired a husband and they thought they would get a husband from this. They thought everything would be perfect and they literally fell in love with this man just from reading these things. (This is a spirit of seduction and lust that he put on the women.)   I knew this whole thing was wrong and it was like a scam, so I went and asked this leader man a bunch of innocent questions relating to this book thing. All I did was ask questions, but his own answers basically exposed himself and his evil corrupt intentions. His evil was brought into the light from his own words in front of everyone there. He was then embarrassed about his sins being exposed in front of Michael and David and he told the others to follow him, and he quickly left without saying goodbye. (This is exactly what happened when he was revealed to our body.) The other man and the 4-women left with him. So, it was just us with Michael and David again. They were amazed that the man exposed himself and it confirmed the actions that the rumors had said about him. I then understood that that was the man the other Brethren were warning us about.       Word   Anonymous 7/29/23  A word from the Lord, "Eve is to experience this path and trial. This is a teaching to help her learn and overcome. Much of the path taken is to show in a real demonstration of how vile this faction spirit is. Not only for her and her children, but for others who know and see where and what she has, and is currently going through.   The release and final conclusion where she will be able to come back, will occur. This will be the removal of Kevin and Eddie. (note: I then saw them both falling to the ground, while clutching their chests, as having a fatal heart attack. It was like a red lightning bolt went through them both at the same time. I know it was an Arch Angel, sent with power and authority, unstoppable might!) (The bolt of lightning could be the sign of judgement from God, but the physical death could be caused by the clot shot or the same poison in chemtrails, which often takes out the heart. I say this because we have other dreams about Eddie dying from snake poison coming upon him. This has been administered by clot shot and from chemtrails.)  It is here, Eve will be able to walk free from shackles and torment. Only from the final conclusive event that will occur. Pray for all of their souls. Do not rejoice. Have sorrow for all. I'm in suffering for each of them.   My dearest David, for you, I am with you in the physical and spirit. I know you anguish and desire for her and all the captives to be set free. Yet, this is a purification process for each. For you, especially, to trust Me implicitly and absolutely without any holding onto or second guessing. Have you any other options but My decision? It will come to pass and the time and understanding on what ensued it, not thought about. We will all celebrate together. Be assured completely. I have made a way."      Freeing The Children Of God   Anonymous 2021 (David's notes in red)  I dreamt that I was standing in the lounge room of a man's house that I didn't know. The house was on a big property, and it had a large driveway and there was much space between the entrance of the property and the house. (This is representing the house of the satanists who have God's people captive.) Behind the house was a yard but behind that was all bush like a national park. The whole property was fenced.  (Representing captivity) I went inside the house to get something, although I don't know what, and there were two men and a woman that lived there. (This is Kevin, Eddie and Eve in the spiritual house.) One man was the only one here right now and he went into a separate room to grab the item I was here for. (They were there for the children of God that were seduced with their slander and witchcraft holding them in captivity.)   I sensed something not right in the spirit about this place. I looked around the room and I saw what looked like a red cupboard door behind me. I walked over to it and opened it and I saw a yellow slide that went around in a circle leading down to the basement. (Yellow represents danger, hidden beneath the surface of their seductive smiles was captivity.) I slid down on the slide and landed in the basement where there were around a hundred children all crowded together. (Representing the children of God held captive by their demons.) There was barely any room between them, and they were all different ages (Spiritually speaking) from babies to young teenagers, boys and girls.   They didn't know who I was, and they never said anything to me but I knew this was wrong. I just felt in my spirit that these children didn't belong to these people, and they had been kidnaped and used for evil. I picked up two of the young children and I told the other children to pick up younger children and I told them to all follow me and I will take them away from this place.   There was a window that led out of the basement, and I opened it and helped all the children get out of it. (The window could represent the “open window to heaven” that we have to the Father's throne of grace.) I was surprised that the children hadn't gone out the window themselves or tried to escape. To my shock when all the children were led out, they were all just standing there. I had expected them to have run off away from this place and to be rejoicing in their freedom. (The faction uses satanic brainwashing, slandering the righteous, telling them lies, mind control, manipulation, fear and threats to keep them in bondage.)   I told them all to follow me as quickly as they can and to run to the gate. Many toddler boys ran ahead of me towards the gate, some children walked or ran around me but many were still behind me. I kept encouraging all the children to keep walking as fast as they can and kept telling them that they will be going to a better place.  (I am sure much of this will be done through warfare and prayers of faith.) It was a long walk to get to the front gate. As I walked, I turned around and I could still see the house, I saw the two men and the woman standing on the deck and they were watching all of us. I thought they would run after us, but I heard them calling out to the children to come back. (Through witchcraft curses.)   Some of the children seemed to be confused whether to listen to me or the people back at the house. Some of the children were hesitant and stopped walking and I looked behind and asked them to keep walking and they didn't have to go back to that evil. A few of them looked at me but then turned back and walked to the house. (There is much confusion operating through the faction. These are spirits put on them through brainwashing, and confusion to keep them in captivity.)   I was still carrying babies and trying to encourage all the children to keep running towards the gate and not to look back. I was always calm and speaking in a gentle loving tone and I felt so much love for all of these children and I really wanted to protect them and get them to a safe place. However, so many more of them turned back and I was so confused about why they would want to go back. Maybe because they were not delivered from those spirits, and they were afraid to go somewhere they didn't know.   All the children, including the teens always had a neutral facial expression. They never said anything, and they didn't do anything without being told. (They are like a calf at a new gate.) They wouldn't climb out the window and walk to the gate unless I told them, it was like they couldn't do anything by their own will, but only by being instructed by someone else. (This is due to captivity to Kevin's ruling demons over their individual demons. They are lifeless, with a lack of love. We must continue to pray against the faction and their witchcraft, casting down all their plans of evil devices and curses over God's children. We must cast out witchcraft, voodoo, faction, criticism, lust, slander, and suspicion, demons from them. Distance does not matter.)   And they didn't go back to the house until they heard the voice from the people telling them to come back. It was very strange. (They have been conditioned and controlled with satanic ritual abuse and deception of slander.)   I just kept moving and encouraging the children to all keep walking and it was an easy walk to the gate. It was a little distance but there was nothing in the way. When we almost got to the gate I looked up to the sky and it was night, but I could see so many stars. But a giant strong wind started all around us and up above there were items flying around. I saw chairs and household items, leaves and many other random things flying high up in the sky from the strong winds and it felt as if a cyclone was close. (This could represent the war in the heavenlies as we do spiritual warfare against the enemy commanding the release of those in captivity. But satan and the faction have already been defeated for the elect's sake! We need to continue to sing praises to God and rejoice in the release of all those being held captive in deception!)   I told the children to all go through the gate, but I looked around and saw all the teenagers walking or running back to the house. I called out to them to please not go back because they don't deserve that evil. They didn't even look at me but kept going back to the house. (The older we are in the Lord the more responsible we are to go against our flesh, which is totally against their mindset. Also teenagers are more affected by the lure of sexual sins going on in this cult.) Most of the children that stayed with me and went through the gate were young babies around 5 years of age and some a little older. (Jesus said except you become as a child you will not enter the Kingdom of heaven.)  We all then went through the gate and were all safe, but the majority of the children all went back to the house. (We were told that only a third of those who went into faction would return. These are the elect. Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer the little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of the heavens.   Isa 49:25 But thus saith Jehovah, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered; for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children.)   (This reminded me of the song: Enemy's Camp where we are to take back what the enemy stole from The Kingdom of Heaven.)   (An evil alliance of spiritual Edomites have come together to persecute Christians here and overseas. They will all go down as the Lord comes to judge them.)     Satanists Join Together to Murder Christians  The Catholic satanists with the help of JW spies have just bombed a funeral party in the Middle East killing Christians because they were converting people from their cult and eternal death.  Our first nasty email from a Catholic enforcer, probably a Jesuit, blamed their stabbing of our brethren to death, who did not resist them, on me because my books speak only the Bible truth and deliver their people from hell. So, he said they would do a black mass to kill me, which is witchcraft.  We just received the second nasty email from an enforcer of the Catholic religion bragging on the deaths in the Middle East and speaking of our own deaths in the local body very particularly.   The information could only have come from our satanist faction, who is guilty of those deaths by witchcraft, headed by Kevin C. Rea who hacks our phones and email and stalks our women. He uses witchcraft, voodoo, and faction to overcome the minds of our women so he can violate them. A practice common to satanists.   These two satanist groups have many things in common historically. They hate the scriptures and those who publish them. They both take advantage of women sexually and sacrifice children. In our case their children were sacrificed to bisexuality, satanism, and generally antichristian behavior, full of witchcraft and faction.  Operation Disclosure reported that the Alliance arrested many of the Cardinals and others, who were then tried and executed for molesting and sacrificing children. We were told the current pope is a look alike because he was prosecuted for the same thing and executed.  One search of the internet brings up the historic murder of multitudes of Christians by the Catholic Church. On the first page of the search there comes up these articles from which I briefly quote. Anyone can go to the same articles and many more to understand the full scope of these slaughters throughout their history.      How Many People Has the Catholic Church Killed?  https://churchreaders.com/how-many-people-has-the-catholic-church-killed/   “The Catholic Church is one of the most notorious and deadliest organizations in history. It has killed an estimated 1.2 billion people over its history, making it responsible for more deaths than any other institution. In addition to its murderous legacy, the Church has been accused of sexually abusing children and women for centuries.” (Note: This does not include all of the children of these murdered Christians who would have grown up to be Christians.)      Did the Roman Catholic Church Actually Persecute and Kill Other Christians?  https://www.christianforums.com/  Many today don't believe that the Roman Catholic church actually persecuted and killed other Christians and yet the record is clear it did.  Read on at this link to see the fuller story of the slaughter of multitudes of Christians by the Catholic Hierarchy:  “the Albigensians   the Bezirs   the Cathars   The Waldensians  The Spanish Inquisition   Hussites  Spanish Netherlands   Huguenots  30 years' war against the Protestants  This does not include the persecution and killing of the Jews … Jews were enslaved, their property confiscated, and their children forcibly baptized. … When the Crusades began, thousands of Jews were slaughtered all through Europe as they marched to the Holy Land … Jews were exterminated by them in England, Spain, France, Poland, Germany, Bavaria, Austria, etc.   ISIS/ISIL Muslim fanatics have nothing on the persecution of Christians by the Roman Catholic Church.”       Did Catholics Kill Christians?  https://www.answers.com/  “Unfortunately, yes. The Catholic Church was prepared to kill members of any Christian group that threated their monopoly on power. The bloodiest example was the slaughter of the Cathars, a Gnostic Christian sect in southern France during the Middle Ages.  In 1099, the First Crusade, established under papal authority, took Jerusalem and massacred the population, regardless of whether Muslim, Jewish or Christian, saying that God could decide their fate in the next life. The People's Crusade of 1096 attacked the Hungarian city of Semlin and burnt Belgrade, before being escorted across the Bosporus by Byzantine guides…  It is well known that the Catholic Church instituted a pogrom against those accused of witchcraft, eventually resulting in the torture and execution of thousands of innocent women. (These demons like the enforcers always accuse the Christians of doing what they themselves are doing.)  At first this could at least be justified by the superstition of the time. Gradually the inquisitions degenerated to the point that women were accused and executed so that their wealth could be seized, while in other cases they were allowed to go free in return for handing over property or for sexual favors. This is one of the saddest chapters in Catholic history.” (It seems they have graduated to molesting and sacrificing babies more today.)  The Catholic Church is A large part of the Harlot of Babylon. She is A mother of the harlot religions born from her, which are the traditional apostate protestant religions. The apple didn't fall far from the tree.  Rev 17:1-6 And there came one of the seven angels that had the seven bowls, and spake with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters; (I.e. Many peoples tribes and tongues. She is a harlot because she receives the seed of the world instead of Jesus.) 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and they that dwell in the earth were made drunken with the wine of her fornication. (The political types always cater to the masses of duped religions.) 3 And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness: and I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored beast (The one world political beast), full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.   4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, (Her favorite colors) and decked with gold and precious stone and pearls (Rich beyond her needs, while her people starve.), having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations, even the unclean things of her fornication, (She will be and do anything you want if it pleases her flesh) 5 and upon her forehead a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. (She brought forth the harlot churches) 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints (She has murdered multitudes to hold her evil position), and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. (We have buried some of her martyred saints and of course it's our fault to them. Duh) And when I saw her, I wondered with a great wonder.  Rev 18:1-3 After these things I saw another angel coming down out of heaven, having great authority; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried with a mighty voice, saying, Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and is become a habitation of demons, and a hold of every unclean spirit, and a hold of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For by the wine of the wrath of her fornication all the nations are fallen; and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth waxed rich by the power of her wantonness.  23 and the light of a lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the princes of the earth; for with thy sorcery were all the nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that have been slain upon the earth.   Rev 19:1-3 After these things I heard as it were a great voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, Hallelujah; Salvation, and glory, and power, belong to our God: 2 for true and righteous are his judgments; for he hath judged the great harlot, her that corrupted the earth with her fornication, and he hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3 And a second time they say, Hallelujah. And her smoke goeth up for ever and ever.  And now our satanist faction has joined with them and will receive of her plagues. They too are guilty of the blood of the saints.  I was raised a Catholic but left in my teen years. When I and my wife were later saved and started reading the Bible, we realized that we had been completely lied to about God. And that none of the people I knew in Catholicism knew, “You must be born again” and I witnessed that they were not by nature. It was a huge deception to keep people from the truth. My wife was almost a nun in her last year of training when she asked God if she was to come back the next year. He told her clearly “Get out of here and never come back”.   After she was saved and learned about the deception, she decided to go to a Catholic study to ask questions. When She brought up some of the history, the priest told her to “leave the skeletons in the closet.” If the root is rotten so is the tree.  She was dating two people at the time; one had studied to be a priest and then there was me who was to her a pagan :o) so she asked the Lord which one she would marry. To her shock He said, “David”. So, then she said, “Well you will have to save him” so He did, but not how she had expected. :o)  There is an exception to the rule in Catholicism. Some of the Catholic Charismatics are saved and filled with the Holy Spirit who is leading the elect out of the false traditions of men. My Mom was a catholic because she had that religious spirit connected to it. So being weak to the weak I took her to a Catholic Charismatic meeting and a nun in full habit locked eyes on her and came to ask her if she could speak with her in another room and she agreed so I went along. That nun was in disguise and preached the gospel to her straight as an arrow. LOL. It wasn't long after that, that she was reading the testimony books on my bookshelf. PTL!  Anyway, the Catholics murder of some of our missionaries will have some good effects.     Vision of Middle East Brethren Maturity   Anonymous 7/28/23  I saw the Brethren in the middle east with extraordinary faith, and with no doubt hindering them, and knowing their power and authority in Christ, and knowing the Word spiritually and applying it.   They had Faith that the enemy can't even touch them, because they know the price paid and Who lives in them.   I saw demons trembling, because of the Faith they had, and because Jesus was manifested through them. It was not just their enemies trembling, but also the spirits in all those around them. They were in fear of Jesus in them, because He was so strong in them.   No weapon formed against them would prosper, and because they knew it is true, and they knew satan is under their feet, with no doubt.   The enemies' power will be taken away and given to the Brethren in full while on Earth.   While writing this down, the following came to me:  "I have a perfect purpose for the circumstances that have been happening with the Brethren in the Middle East. I Am teaching them many things and there is a great witness of My Truth through all of this. (I felt this witness was not just the Brethren but also their enemies and others seeing and knowing about it.)  Soon, great Faith will be poured out and manifested through them, and they will be strong in Spirit and My Word will be manifested and applied, and there will be greater miracles and power than you all expect."      Vision of Brethren Going To Be With Jesus  Anonymous 7/27/23  I saw a part of Heaven, and there were fields, and the grass was greener than any green in the physical. Everything else however, was like gold but in different colors, and it was all light.   Jesus was standing there looking behind me, and His giant arms were stretched out wide so welcoming and as if waiting for a hug.   I turned behind me, and saw numerous people; women, children and many men walking towards Jesus. They were looking around in extreme awe and joy and their skin and form were perfect, no blemishes or anything, they were perfect and whole.   There was no more evil, no more curse or suffering, only joy. They knew they were home. They were only fully Jesus now and they were greeted and welcomed, and Jesus was the most joyful that they were now there with Him, one with and in Him. It was as if Jesus had waited forever for that moment of them coming to Him. It felt as if Jesus' heart towards them all, "good and faithful servants". But they were each so unique and special and Jesus needed each of them and that each individual was so greatly treasured and precious and loved and needed to be with Him.   I then felt they are all one in Christ now and all our Brethren but Jesus, and the Father the most, are awaiting for us to be 100% reunited with them.      Enemies Turning to Jesus   Anonymous 7/30/23   As I was in a state of being half awake and half asleep when I saw a man who was one of the leaders of the false Christian killers in the Middle East. This man was very influential, and everyone looked to him, and he had zeal for the “Christianity” he believed in, but he was ruthless.   I saw God open his eyes to see the Truth of the Word and he truly repented for all the evil he had done, and God completely changed him. He was sharing the Truth with the others that looked up to him in the false Christianity religion and some were so awed and shocked at this man's big change, and I knew they would see The Real Truth too.   I saw there were others who were so angry and filled with such hatred, but by God changing this leader, he became an incredible witness to all those who were under him and looked up to him.   I knew that this was going to happen. It was so awesome and amazing to see. I was then reminded of Saul/Paul and how Jesus woke him up to the Truth. He had killed many followers of Jesus, just like this man had and that he will come to the Truth too.

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For additional notes and resources check out Douglas' website.4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesusis not from God. And this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming; and now it is already in the world. 4 Little children, you are from God, and have conquered them; for the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5 They are from the world; therefore what they say is from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us, and whoever is not from God does not listen to us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.The term “spirits” (v.1) is equivalent to “prophetic messages.”The same word “spirit” is rendered prophecy in 2 Thess 2:2.The idea is similar to that in 1 Thess 5:20-21.The point: don't be duped by false prophets. God's true Spirit always works in harmony with God's Word and will never teach, tolerate or lead us into error.Are there prophets today? Click here.The world—and this includes pagans and the worldly religious—accepts worldly thinking and excuses, approving of the messages of the false prophets (vv.4-6).Anyone on the side of truth will eventually join us—or we will join him.Our focus should not be “Who's right?”, but “What's right?” Begin with the truth in God's word, then apply it relentlessly and accept the conclusions.Can a Gnostic Christian be saved? Click here.7 Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 God's love was revealed among us in this way: God sent his only Son into the world so that we might live through him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins. Verses 7-10 are poetic, and based on an ancient Christian hymn.Love is revealed by action, particularly by going.11 Beloved, since God loved us so much, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God lives in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. 14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father has sent his Son as the Savior of the world. 15 God abides in those who confess that Jesus is the Son of God, and they abide in God. 16 So we have known and believe the love that God has for us.Love is the very nature of God (vv.7-11). It is impossible to understand real love without appreciating the cross of Christ.In regard to vv.12-15, no one has ever fully, completely seen God (John 1:18; Isa 55:8-9), though at times God has made one aspect or another of himself visible (Exod 34, for example).We see God in the person of Jesus as recorded in the Bible (Col 2:9). But today Jesus is at the right hand of the Father, and through his spirit he lives in his body, the church (Eph 1:22-23; 2:22).Although God is invisible, he is seen in Christian relationships. It's so difficult to lead someone to Christ without his or her seeing the community of faith. The abstract becomes concrete in the fellowship of the saints.God is love, and those who abide in love abide in God, and God abides in them. 17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness on the day of judgment, because as he is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear; for fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not reached perfection in love. In regard to vv.16-18, believers in Christ possess spiritual confidence.Fear has to do with punishment. Christians know they're forgiven, and perfect (mature, complete) love drives out fear. We revere God (a good sort of fear), but we don't stand in terror of God (the bad sort), for three reasons:We're already acquainted with him (he's no stranger), and we're confident about his unchanging nature. A true Christian need not fear death. We don't fear him because we know him.God has assured us in Christ that he'll do anything to get us to heaven. The cross is a powerful disclosure of his heart. "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him” (John 3:17).He sets our hearts at peace, providing us with forgiveness and the gift of a good conscience (Heb 9:14). When we're living right, our hearts are at rest. This should be the “default setting” of a disciple of Christ. At his return Christ will bring salvation to those waiting for him (Hebrews 9:28).What will the judgment day be like for Christians? Will our lives be reviewed in order to determine whether we go to heaven or hell, or merely to determine some level of reward in heaven?All believers will appear before the judgment seat (2 Cor 5:10).We are not saved by our works (Eph 2:8-9), but we are rewarded according to our works (Matt 25:21). Before death we know that we are saved (1 John 5:13) and thus be confident and unashamed before God at his coming (2:28).Jesus frequently mentions treasures in heaven (Matt 6:20).Punishment, like reward, is in direct proportion to knowledge and responsibility (Luke 12:47-48). It is just not true that all get the same reward or punishment.At the return of Christ we will:receive the gift of eternal life (1 Cor 15:50, 53),meet Jesus Christ, andbecome like him (3:2).19 We love because he first loved us. 20 Those who say, “I love God,” and hate their brothers or sisters, are liars; for those who do not love a brother or sister whom they have seen, cannot love God whom they have not seen. 21 The commandment we have from him is this: those who love God must love their brothers and sisters also.As John puts it in 4:20, if we claim to love the (invisible) Lord while we don't love our (visible) brother, we lie.It isn't logically possible to love God (who is invisible) if you don't love your brothers and sisters (who are visible).Contradictions to the claim that we love God -- all of which bring reproach on the Christian church -- include:Bitterness and resentment (Heb 12:15).Racism and prejudice, which are forms of hatred (Gal 5:20). It has been accurately observed, “11:00 on Sunday morning is the most segregated hour of the week.”Refusal to connect relationally with other Christians. Isolation contributes to denominationalism (1 Cor 1:10-12; 3:16-17; John 17:20-23).Fragmenting or fractured marriages (Eph 5:22-33).Disrespectful treatment of others, violating the spirit of love (1 Cor 13:1-8).Lack of forgiveness -- which is damnable (Matt 6:14-15).Love is the bottom line.A true Christian must actively love God, his brothers and sisters in the faith, and the lost.These truths -- a personal walk with God, involvement in the church, and commitment to evangelism -- we hold to be (biblically) self-evident.Thought questions:Am I spiritually gullible, or am I cautiously skeptical, testing everything by the Word?Are we walking confidently before God and man? How do we feel about the judgment?Does the church you attend reflect local demographics, or is there a lack of love for those who are different from the norm?

Video: https://youtu.be/EZS-BoarSkg The InnerVersal mystics of Marvel return to integrate the shadow of the Dark Mother Goddess & the Man of Light, with an incredibly deep analysis of Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Rife with Gnostic Christian allegory and a psychologically shattered-mirror perspective on the All-Mother, this film may just be the wildest thing we've covered yet. The Marvelous Demystifiers are: Chance Garton, Gabriel (Slick Dissident), Gordy Hamil. EPISODE LINKS• Slick Dissident (Gabriel) on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSSMh4fE7dAdhPcdtP0rW2A• Gordy 2 Shoes on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyV5nhzKW7xXhQglvcUapRw• Intro Music: "The Balance" by WisdomTraders - https://soundcloud.com/wisdomtraders/the-balance TELEGRAM LINKS• InnerVerse Telegram Channel (Follow for updates!) - https://t.me/innerversepodcast• InnerVerse Group Chat (Community Viiiibes ⚡) - https://t.me/innerversepodcastchat WORK WITH ME• Sound Healing Therapy: https://www.innerversepodcast.com/sound-healing• Oracle Card Counseling: https://www.innerversepodcast.com/oracle-cards Get InnerVerse Plus+ and enjoy the massive archive of extended episodes!• Join on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/innerverse• Join on Rokfin: https://rokfin.com/creator/innerverse SUPPORT INNERVERSE• Spirit Whirled: July's End (Audiobook narrated by Chance) - https://tinyurl.com/2dhsaras• InnerVerse T-Shirts, Posters & Art Store - https://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/TripFlipArt/t-shirts/• Add to your metaphysical toolkit at Secret Energy - https://store.secretenergy.com/?ref=chancegarton• Buy from Clive de Carle with this link to support InnerVerse with your purchase - https://clivedecarle.ositracker.com/197164/11489• The Aquacure AC50 (Use "innerverse" as a coupon code for a 15% discount) - https://eagle-research.com/product/ac50 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Video: https://youtu.be/yt7XkSXadl4 The InnerVersal mystics of Marvel return to integrate the shadow of the Dark Mother Goddess & the Man of Light, with an incredibly deep analysis of Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Rife with Gnostic Christian allegory and a psychologically shattered-mirror perspective on the All-Mother, this film may just be the wildest thing we've covered yet.The Marvelous Demystifiers are: Chance Garton, Gabriel (Slick Dissident), Gordy Hamil.EPISODE LINKS• Slick Dissident (Gabriel) on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSSMh4fE7dAdhPcdtP0rW2A• Gordy 2 Shoes on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyV5nhzKW7xXhQglvcUapRw• Intro Music: "The Balance" by WisdomTraders - https://soundcloud.com/wisdomtraders/the-balanceTELEGRAM LINKS• InnerVerse Telegram Channel (Follow for updates!) - https://t.me/innerversepodcast• InnerVerse Group Chat (Community Viiiibes ⚡) - https://t.me/innerversepodcastchatWORK WITH ME• Sound Healing Therapy: https://www.innerversepodcast.com/sound-healing• Oracle Card Counseling: https://www.innerversepodcast.com/oracle-cardsGet InnerVerse Plus+ and enjoy the massive archive of extended episodes!• Join on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/innerverse• Join on Rokfin: https://rokfin.com/creator/innerverseSUPPORT INNERVERSE• Spirit Whirled: July's End (Audiobook narrated by Chance) - https://tinyurl.com/2dhsaras• InnerVerse T-Shirts, Posters & Art Store - https://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/TripFlipArt/t-shirts/• Add to your metaphysical toolkit at Secret Energy - https://store.secretenergy.com/?ref=chancegarton• Buy from Clive de Carle with this link to support InnerVerse with your purchase - https://clivedecarle.ositracker.com/197164/11489• The Aquacure AC50 (Use "innerverse" as a coupon code for a 15% discount) - https://eagle-research.com/product/ac50 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Treatise On Resurrection - Gnostic Text of the Nag Hammadi audio book with text. The Treatise on the Resurrection is an ancient Gnostic Christian text which was found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt. It is also sometimes referred to as "The Letter to Rheginos" because it is a letter responding to questions about the resurrection posed by Rheginos, of whom little is known. The main message of the treatise is that Christians should consider themselves already resurrected in a spiritual sense and that the resurrection is real, not just a metaphor. It asserts that Jesus "lived as flesh" and was "both human and divine." In my opinion, this is very similar to any number of works in Eastern/Hindu mysticism. Here, the resurrection is directly comparable to Self-realization, Enlightenment, Self-knowledge, etc. We also see the idea that the world is illusion or Maya, among other motifs. Check out the Nag Hammadi scriptures at https://amzn.to/2lzpFoa Please consider supporting my work and download this audio as part of the ESOTERIC AND OCCULT WISDOM - MASTER COLLECTION (an ongoing collection of Gnostic, alchemical, Hermetic, and related occult/spiritual audio projects that span dozens of hours) at https://altrusiangrace.bandcamp.com/ *JOIN MY PATREON at https://www.patreon.com/altrusiangracemedia *BECOME A YOUTUBE CHANNEL MEMBER at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzRTOugvDLwhSwJdoSWBZA/join *JOIN THE CULT OF STARRY WISDOM at https://altrusiangrace.bandcamp.com/starry-wisdom-cult *MY TSHIRTS AND DESIGNS ON AMAZON at https://amzn.to/3peS9j3 *MY NEW 2022 MERCH LINE "OCCULT NOUVEAU" at https://amzn.to/3OeUHZL *MY TSHIRTS AND DESIGNS ON TEEPUBLIC at https://teepublic.sjv.io/XxvPDX *LICENSE MY MUSIC FOR YOUR PROJECT at https://www.pond5.com/artist/altrusiangracemedia *MY BOOKS ON AMAZON at https://amzn.to/3oQGh6A As an Amazon Associate I earn a small amount from qualifying purchases and it helps to support my channel. Please consider LIKING the video, SUBSCRIBING to the channel, and SHARING the links! These simple actions go a long way in supporting AGM and is truly appreciated!  ~~Places to follow and support Altrusian Grace Media~~ Website ► https://altrusiangrace.blogspot.com/ Bandcamp ► https://altrusiangrace.bandcamp.com Teepublic Store ► https://teepublic.sjv.io/XxvPDX Twitter ► https://twitter.com/AltrusianGrace Rumble ► https://rumble.com/c/c-375437 YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/AltrusianGraceMedia Odessy ► https://odysee.com/@altrusiangracemedia:1 Bitchute ► https://www.bitchute.com/channel/altrusiangracemedia/ To kindly donate directly to my channel: www.paypal.me/altrusiangrace For inquiries regarding voice-over work or licensing for my work (including music) please contact altrusiangracemedia ((at)) gmail.com AGM BACKUP CONTENT ► https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO0nCG5aqB1CHyU3Xf0TUbg #Gnosticism #Alchemy #Hermeticism #Occult #Esoteric #Audiobook #Mysticism #Gnostic #Egyptian #Christianity #NagHammadi #Spirituality #Jung  

The Treatise On Resurrection - Gnostic Text of the Nag Hammadi audio book with text. The Treatise on the Resurrection is an ancient Gnostic Christian text which was found at Nag Hammadi, Egypt. It is also sometimes referred to as "The Letter to Rheginos" because it is a letter responding to questions about the resurrection posed by Rheginos, of whom little is known. The main message of the treatise is that Christians should consider themselves already resurrected in a spiritual sense and that the resurrection is real, not just a metaphor. It asserts that Jesus "lived as flesh" and was "both human and divine." In my opinion, this is very similar to any number of works in Eastern/Hindu mysticism. Here, the resurrection is directly comparable to Self-realization, Enlightenment, Self-knowledge, etc. We also see the idea that the world is illusion or Maya, among other motifs. Check out the Nag Hammadi scriptures at https://amzn.to/2lzpFoa *JOIN MY PATREON at https://www.patreon.com/altrusiangracemedia *BECOME A YOUTUBE CHANNEL MEMBER at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzRTOugvDLwhSwJdoSWBZA/join *JOIN THE CULT OF STARRY WISDOM at https://altrusiangrace.bandcamp.com/starry-wisdom-cult *MY TSHIRTS AND DESIGNS ON AMAZON at https://amzn.to/3peS9j3 *MY NEW 2022 MERCH LINE "OCCULT NOUVEAU" at https://amzn.to/3OeUHZL *MY TSHIRTS AND DESIGNS ON TEEPUBLIC at https://teepublic.sjv.io/XxvPDX *LICENSE MY MUSIC FOR YOUR PROJECT at https://www.pond5.com/artist/altrusiangracemedia *MY BOOKS ON AMAZON at https://amzn.to/3oQGh6A As an Amazon Associate I earn a small amount from qualifying purchases and it helps to support my channel. Please consider LIKING the video, SUBSCRIBING to the channel, and SHARING the links! These simple actions go a long way in supporting AGM and is truly appreciated!  ~~Places to follow and support Altrusian Grace Media~~ Website ► https://altrusiangrace.blogspot.com/ Bandcamp ► https://altrusiangrace.bandcamp.com Teepublic Store ► https://teepublic.sjv.io/XxvPDX Twitter ► https://twitter.com/AltrusianGrace Rumble ► https://rumble.com/c/c-375437 YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/AltrusianGraceMedia Odessy ► https://odysee.com/@altrusiangracemedia:1 Bitchute ► https://www.bitchute.com/channel/altrusiangracemedia/ To kindly donate directly to my channel: www.paypal.me/altrusiangrace For inquiries regarding voice-over work or licensing for my work (including music) please contact altrusiangracemedia ((at)) gmail.com AGM BACKUP CONTENT ► https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO0nCG5aqB1CHyU3Xf0TUbg #Gnosticism #Alchemy #Hermeticism #Occult #Esoteric #Audiobook #Mysticism #Gnostic #Egyptian #Christianity #NagHammadi #Spirituality #Jung  

Mary the Prophetess was the first known Western alchemist in history and who is known from the works of the Gnostic Christian writer Zosimos of Panopolis.  JOIN MY PATREON at https://www.patreon.com/altrusiangracemedia YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/AltrusianGraceMedia  

Sophia, A Divine Feminine Archetype   Join April, Harmony, and Maggie as they introduce Sophia as part of the Holy Trinity according to the ancient Gnostic Christian sect. Learn more about this hidden and ancient Goddess as Mother of all Creation and how important she is for the cultivation of the Divine Feminine in our modern culture that has been ruled by patriarchy for thousands of years.   Who is Sophia? April explains that the Greek word for wisdom is Sophia. In the Gnostic interpretation of the holy Trinity, it was the father, God, the mother, Sophia, the holy spirit and the child, Jesus. The gnostics were eradicated by the Roman Emperor and their teachings were hid in the Qumran Caves for two thousand years. Sophia shows up years later in the Renaissance period, depicted as the Queen of Heaven. Sophia's modern interpretation according to Harmony is the Divine Mother of all Life even as we are shifting to accept a genderless creator with a balance between the divine masculine and the divine feminine. Sophia, the Great Mother Out of the darkness, a great goddess according to the ancient Babylonians was born from the primordial chaos. She was a multi headed dragon that dates even farther back from the earliest record of Sophia. Now as we enter into the Age of Aquarius, humanity is moving into a global family consciousness. Sophia shows up in modern consciousness as the divine feminine to rekindle and ignite the birthing process of the new age. Maggie shares a definition of feminine and masculine energy to give context to ways we experience feminine energy in our society.   https://www.goddesswitchwomb.com   Divine Feminine Membership: https://mysticharmonymysteryschool.teachable.com/p/membership   Priestess Path: COUPON CODE FOR 13% OFF: GWW13 https://mysticharmonymysteryschool.teachable.com/p/priestess-path-1

#Logos #LogosRising #Christianity In this stream I discuss the spirituality of hermaphrodites and androgyny. Having ancient origins, the concept that spiritual fulfillment is actually the unification of genders was always important to Gnostic Christian sects and has continued within the practices of alchemy and occultism. Today's genderless transhumanism is this ancient heresy's newest form. Make sure to check it out and let me know what you think. God bless Intro Music Follow b-dibe's Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/b-dibeSuperchat Here https://streamlabs.com/churchoftheeternallogosSupport COTEL with Crypto!Bitcoin: 3QNWpM2qLGfaZ2nUXNDRnwV21UUiaBKVsyEthereum: 0x0b87E0494117C0adbC45F9F2c099489079d6F7DaLitecoin: MKATh5kwTdiZnPE5Ehr88Yg4KW99Zf7k8d If you enjoy this production, feel compelled, or appreciate my other videos, please support me through my website memberships (www.davidpatrickharry.com) or donate directly by PayPal or crypto! Any contribution would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Logos Subscription Membership: http://davidpatrickharry.com/register/ Venmo: @cotel - https://account.venmo.com/u/cotel PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/eternallogos Donations: http://www.davidpatrickharry.com/donate/PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/eternallogos Website: http://www.davidpatrickharry.com Odysee: https://odysee.com/@ChurchoftheEternalLogos:dGAB: https://gab.com/dpharryMinds: https://www.minds.com/DpharryBitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/W10R...DLive: https://dlive.tv/The_Eternal_LogosTelegram: https://t.me/eternallogosInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dpharry/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/eternal_logos

Marty Leeds is a polymath professor of the Logos, gematria guru, author of multiple books, and accomplished musician. In this episode we put the fun in function, as we explore the magic of number and the worldview of wholeness that is found through transcendental digits.Video Version of Episode - https://youtu.be/75vkou9tynoBecome an InnerVerse Plus+ member to unlock the 2nd hour of each episode.Rokfin - https://rokfin.com/stream/11814Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/posts/59743519LINKShttps://martyleeds33.com/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjcYXazpAS5g9uUEeQMAC4QMain post for this episode - https://www.innerversepodcast.com/season-7/gnostic-christian-revivalMusic in this episode: Last Chance by Marty Leeds - https://martyleeds33.com/marty-leeds-albums/SUPPORT INNERVERSEJoin the InnerVerse Tribe on our Telegram Chat - https://t.me/innerversepodcastchatInnerVerse T-Shirts, Posters & Art Store - https://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/TripFlipArt/t-shirts/Add to your metaphysical toolkit at Secret Energy - https://store.secretenergy.com/?ref=chancegartonBuy from Clive de Carle with this link to support InnerVerse with your purchase - https://clivedecarle.ositracker.com/197164/11489Leave a 5 Star Review for InnerVerse on iTunes - https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/innerverse-podcast/id1066918535?mt=2Make A Donation Through Paypal - https://paypal.me/chancegarton?locale.x=en_USInnerVerse is part of the Alt Media United Network. Find other enlightening info-tainment here: http://altmediaunited.com/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Enjoy the full interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYsvjh-rTV4&t=1s BRENDAN D. MURPHY: In late 2019 before co(n)vid kicked off, author Sol Luckman received a powerful intuitive premonitory “download” regarding the p(l)andemic (and pseudo-vakseens) to come, which inspired his latest novel CALI THE DESTROYER. His book singles out, in his words, the primary source of “evil” as we experience it, that being the Archontic demiurgic force operating as a mind parasite in the psyche of human beings. These entities are “psychic” or energetic entities that inhabit vulnerable minds, stimulating self-destructive and sadistic thought, as well as pushing us in the direction of technological transhumanism which will ultimately leave only a simulacrum of humanity in its wake if it succeeds. We discuss the Archontic domination and depopulation agenda, the possible evolutionary leap humankind may soon make, as well as how Luckman's fast-paced novel came to be, and how it weaves the Gnostic myths and prophecies into it—and how they relate to our situation today. You'll learn: * Why the Ancient Gnostic teachings were wiped out by the early Church * What the “Language of the Birds” really is * Who/what the Archons are and how they operate * Why the Illuminati may just be pawns in someone else's game * Why the Fourth Industrial Revolution or “Great Reset” must be stopped * Why the term “Gnostic Christian” is an oxymoron * Why it's harder than ever to discern what is real and what is fake or simulated * The story of the “Fallen Goddess” Sophia and how Archons came into being * How the Technocrats are harvesting our children's biometric and behavioral data through virtual reality tech * How the Gnostic text ON THE ORIGIN OF THE WORLD applies to today * And much, MUCH more. This has to be one of THE most tantalizing and thought-provoking discussions I've had on the show, opening up so many rabbit holes as it does. *** Purchase your copy of CALI THE DESTROYER ... http://www.crowrising.com/cali-the-destroyer

If the "Neapolitan Ice Cream" analogy for the Trinity actually Modalism? How about attempts to analogize the Trinity with Quantum Physics? Mustn’t the Genesis Flood be inspired by an actual world flood in ages past? Was Mary made pregnant by a Roman soldier, by her husband Joseph, or an angelic sex act? Do the Paulicians represent a continuation of original Gnostic Christian faith, or a revival? And might there be a real connection with a/the Gnostic Paul? Do you have any idea what Mary might have meant in Luke 1:34 when she asks the angel Gabriel, “How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?” I would appreciate your advice for what translations or versions of the Bible might clarify the meaning of certain rare or ambiguous words in the text.

**Content Warning: This episode contains open and frank conversation about depression and addiction after spiritual schisms and suicidal thoughts. If any of that is unsafe or upsetting for you, please do skip this one!** Hi, Bee here! This week, I sat down with a Gnostic Christian named Christian, who is also the first listener to write into the show and come on an episode! Christian shares about his upbringing in the church, the arguments that Intelligent Creationists make against Evolutionary Theory, the study that ultimately changed his mind, and much, much more. It was truly a conversation that I'm grateful to have had and a huge thank you to Christian for sharing his story. I hope you’ll enjoy it!!  Thank you so much for listening to DOTS! If you like what you hear, please Subscribe and leave us a 5 Star Rating and a Review on your podcast platform! Connect with us further online at www.divinespark.co, on Reddit and IG @divinesparkmedia and @beescolnick, and consider supporting our project on Patreon www.patreon.com/divinesparkmedia ! Just $1/month goes a long way to continuing the work! THANK YOU!

Estimated reading time: 2 minutes The Tarot and the Cathar Code is a path to enlightenment. Russell Sturgess joins me to talk about his new book, The Spiritual Roots Of The Tarot: The Cathar Code Hidden In The Cards. The Holy Grail has been discovered. Not a cup or chalice as myth leads us to believe; the Holy Grail is sacred knowledge of the path to enlightenment and Inner peace. While author Russell Sturgess was researching the Marseille Tarot, he found evidence that this tarot deck, while masquerading as a simple card game, help the teachings of an ancient heretical religious group from Southern France, the athar, Believed to be the keepers of the Holy Grail. To avoid persecution by the papacy, this sect used portable art like illuminations to convey their Gnostic Christian teachings. Similarly, the stained glass windows of churches spoke to their congregations. This portable Cathar art then inspired the creation of the Tarot. The Spiritual Roots Of The Tarot demystifies how the Cathers worked with the Tarot The Cathar Code discovery of a hidden key in certain Tarot Cards After his breakthrough discovery of a hidden key on the Magician and strength tarot cards, Sturgess examined the Major Arcana cards further and use the key to unlock their symbolism, discovering clear instructions for recalibrating human consciousness and achieving enlightenment, with specific tarot cards representing pivotal points in making the journey from ignorance to war ness. Decoding the cards in detail, Sturgess shows how they reveal a journey of transformed consciousness that can result in finding what the Cathar called " The kingdom of heaven." We talk about In the Marseille Tarot, the Moon card can be called the Christmas cardThe Tarot in 1400's North ItalyThe flaming sword test of AbrahamWho were the CatharsThe Cathar CodeHow the Catholic Church got rid of the CatharsHow real change happens withinThe dark night of the Soul - The Hanged man cardHow to use the Tarot cards in your own personal practiceThe relevance of COVID19, the Cathars, and the TarotHow the loss of freedom during the pandemic shows society how they disregard the senior population Russell A Sturgess has practiced as a complementary health professional since the mid-1970s. developing his unique approach to osteopathic massage, peace-centered healing, and mindfulness practice. He has personally trained over a thousand students throughout the United States, New Zealand, and Australia. www.westernmindfulness.com.au/

This is a selection of "Sayings of Jesus" from the gnostic Gospel of St. Thomas (translated by Stephen J. Patterson and James M. Robinson) plus a few other selections of Jesus' key teachings from other gospels. The Gospel of Thomas (also known as the Coptic Gospel of Thomas) is a non-canonical sayings gospel. It was discovered near Nag Hammadi, Egypt, in December 1945 among a group of books known as the Nag Hammadi library. Scholars speculate that the works were buried in response to a letter from Bishop Athanasius declaring a strict canon of Christian scripture. Scholars have proposed dates of composition as early as AD 60 and as late as AD 140. The Coptic-language text, the second of seven contained in what modern-day scholars have designated as Codex II, is composed of 114 sayings attributed to Jesus. In the Gnostic Christian tradition, Christ is seen as a divine being which has taken human form in order to lead humanity back to the Light. The usual meaning of gnostikos in Classical Greek texts is "learned" or "intellectual". Art image - "Ground" by Dan Hillier used with kind permission of the artist. Please see Dan's incredible art at: https://danhillier.com/ Music: Father Archimandrite Serafim Bit-Kharibi and his choir - Saint- Petersburg

Dr. Newton uses the linguistic arithmetic of Gematria, the New Testament and Gnostic Christian texts to explain the real meaning of Christmas and Christ MassSolution Revolution Radio Show is broadcast live at 10am PT Mondays on K4HD - Hollywood Talk Radio (www.k4hd.com ) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com). This podcast is also available on Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com).

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The Nag Hammadi Library today on the Metaphysical Theater The Nag Hammadi Library, a collection of thirteen ancient books (called "codices") containing over fifty texts, was discovered in upper Egypt in 1945. This immensely important discovery includes a large number of primary Gnostic scriptures – texts once thought to have been entirely destroyed during the early Christian struggle to define "orthodoxy" – scriptures such as the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip, and the Gospel of Truth. The discovery and translation of the Nag Hammadi library has provided impetus to a major re-evaluation of early Christian history and the nature of Gnosticism. (Readers unfamiliar with this history may wish to read an excerpt from Elaine Pagels' excellent popular introduction to the Nag Hammadi texts, The Gnostic Gospels.) We have add extensive resources on two centrally important texts from Nag Hammadi: The Gospel of Thomas and The Secret Book of John. Multiple authoritative translations of several Nag Hammadi scriptures are included in the collection.  Valentinus and Valentinian Gnosis. Valentinus was one of the most influential Gnostic Christian teachers of the second century A.D., and was the only Gnostic considered for election as Bishop of Rome (Pope). He founded a movement which spread throughout Europe, the Middle East and North Africa. Despite persecution by developing orthodoxies, the Valentinian school endured for over 600 years. A large number of texts in the Nag Hammadi collection are influence by Valentinian tradition. Due to its importance, we have a large section of the library dedicated specifically to Valentinus and the Valentinian Tradition. Check out, by typing into google " is this the largest metaphysical library on the web?" And thank you for listening to this Anchor FM podcast of the metaphysical theater

On Thursday September 18th, 2014 the Hermetic Hour with host Poke Runyon will present a discussion on the career and contributions of Marcus the Valentinian (died 175 a.d.). Marcus was as much a Hermetic as he was a Gnostic Christian. The Church Fathers accused him of being more Pythagorean than Christian. He was the developer of the Soma Sophia system of celestial Greek qabalah which we have decoded and perfected (see The Seventh Ray, Book III ) and, according to Kieren Barry, Marcus had an influence of the creation of the later Sepher Yetzirah. Marcus developed some of the basic concepts of what became the qabalah. Marcus was a Phoenician, influenced by the earlier Samaritan Simon Magus. Like Simon Marcus had a Priestess whom he venerated as an equal. He gave communion with his priestess by his side and turned water into wine at the altar. The early Church Fathers considered this blasphemous. Marcus's cult spread from the Middle East to Southern France in the days Gnostic Christian Marcus - the First Rosicrucian? before Constantine force-reformed Christianity. So, if you want to explore the most ancient origins of what we call "The Western Tradition," then tune in and we will spend an hour with a man who may have been the first Rosicrucian.  

On Thursday September 4th, 2014 the Hermetic Hour with host Poke Runyon will present a discussion on Shamgar, son of the Canaanite War Goddess Anath "who killed 600 Philistines with an ox goad and saved Israel "(over a hundred years before Samson) and became a Judge (ruler of all the tribes) of Israel. Shamgar's story is briefly told in the Biblical Book of Judges. Beyond that lies the realm of myth and legend in which it is suggested that Shamgar was a Phoenician pirate called "Tekheleth Tholi." The Purple Dragon based in Tyre and sent by King Abi Milki to aid the Israeites against the Philistines. He joins the host of the Hebrew Judge Ehud, and marries his daughter Jael, who eventually tries to kill him. His ox goad is said to have been a magical weapon forged by the blacksmith Tubal Cain. The legend is perpetuated in the Gnostic Christian tradition of Marcus from whom we get the Greek Qabalah. Shamgar's exploits should be considered symbolic rather than historic, like the story of Hiram Abiff in Masonry or the Labors of Hercules in Phoenician and Greek astrological lore. If you want to return to the days when Gods and Giants walked the earth, tune in and we'll evoke the shade of Shamgar.

One of the recent characteristics of Catholic critics of Pope Francis is their disregard for literary context. By literary context, I am referring to the immediate sentences preceding and following a given text of consideration. Time and again, I have seen the critics of Pope Francis excerpt a particular statement without any attention to the literary context. In this episode, I show how this lack of attention to literary context characterized much of the exegesis offered by Gnostic Christian commentators and theologians. Instead, Gnostic Christian thinkers like Ptolemy, Heracleon and other selected key motifs from the New Testament and built out their various theological systems. Their interpretation of New Testament texts was characterized by a focus on motifs and ideas rather than on the literary context which supplied the backdrop for those particular statements on which they directed the focus of their comments. I show how there is a strong similarity in this approach with the criticisms leveled by English-speaking Catholics against Pope Francis. Rather than concentrating on the literary context of his statements and interpreting Francis contextually, these critics have instead isolated specific phrases or sentences and have used them to characterize his theology in the worst possible light. Join us this week as we talk about the importance of literary context for interpreting any text.     To comment on this show or provide feedback, please navigate to https://catholicheritageshow.com/episode98 The Catholic Heritage is devoted to helping Catholic Christians better understand the history, teachings and culture of their Catholic faith so that they can better love and serve Christ, the Church and their neighbors. Dr. Erik Estrada is a Catholic scholar who holds a Ph.D. from the University of Notre Dame and specializes in the history of Christianity and historical theology. 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Ryan McGranahan chooses his own religion! Ryan is a storyteller from Los Angeles and a member of Ecclesia Gnostica, a Gnostic Christian church here in Los Angeles, and he came on the show to explain Gnostic Christianity to me. We talk about Jesus in the Gnostic tradition, the inversion of Christian tropes, little-g gnosticism, the divine feminine, magic, rituals, cosmological differences, the importance of belief, prayer, symbolism, and how it all comes back to the Matrix.

Our holiday fundraiser for The Bodhana Group has officially begun! Grant and a recuperating Peter kick off this episode with a plug for that, before diving into the complex structure and philosophy of Gnosticism in order to lay a foundation for further episodes on specific Gnostic Christian sects. Grant provides an overview of core Gnostic beliefs, and how they connect to Christianity and Judaism (as well as other beliefs from around the Hellenistic world.) We touch on Kabbalah and modern Gnostic influences, and then spend some time discussing a major and newly-discovered Gnostic text: The Gospel of Judas. Grab a notepad, and enjoy! Scripture: Deuteronomy 4:39, 1 Timothy 6:20-21, 1 John 4:2-3

On Thursday September 18th, 2014 the Hermetic Hour with host Poke Runyon will present a discussion on the career and contributions of Marcus the Valentinian (died 175 a.d.). Marcus was as much a Hermetic as he was a Gnostic Christian. The Church Fathers accused him of being more Pythagorean than Christian. He was the developer of the Soma Sophia system of celestial Greek qabalah which we have decoded and perfected (see The Seventh Ray, Book III ) and, according to Kiren Barry Marcus had an influence of the creation of the later Sepher Yetzirah. Marcus developed some of the basic concepts of what became the qabalah. Marcus was a Phonecian, influenced by the earlier Samaritan Simon Magus. Like Simon Marcus had a Priestess whom he venerated as an equal. He gave communion with his priestess by his side and turned water into wine at the altar. The early Church Fathers considered this blasphemous. Marcus's cult spread from the Middle East to Southern France in the days before Constantine force-reformed Christianity. So, if you want to explore the most ancient origins of what we call "The Western Tradition," then tune in and we will spend an hour with a man who may have been the first Rosicrucian.

Bill Kirkland creator of Bio-Etherics has perfected a machine able to heal at a distance. This energy has the effect of significantly reducing negative emotions, as well as the cause and effects of dis-ease. Bill is the author of two books: Power Cycles, a study of economic cycles through the history of the United States, and Tau Master, which chronicles the ascension of a Gnostic Christian adept.

Bill Kirkland creator of Bio-Etherics has perfected a machine able to heal at a distance. This energy has the effect of significantly reducing negative emotions, as well as the cause and effects of dis-ease. Bill is the author of two books: Power Cycles, a study of economic cycles through the history of the United States, and Tau Master, which chronicles the ascension of a Gnostic Christian adept.