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Fire and Soul welcomes modern medicine woman, psychotherapist and my dear friend, Lena Franklin—a seasoned retreat facilitator with over a decade of experience in supporting the healing and transformation of humanity and our earth by being an instrument of energetic harmony.Lena and I both lead profound retreat experiences so I wanted to bring her on to explore, not only the business aspect of curating retreats but also an honest ‘behind the scenes' glimpse into what really goes into these transformative experiences. Because not enough people talk about this type of thing yet the retreat business can be lucrative and deeply challenging as grow us into our highest yet to be.Join us as Lena shares her transformative journey from guiding mindfulness retreats to leading immersive, shamanic experiences across the globe. Our conversation delves into the art of designing sacred spaces, setting aligned pricing, and honoring the authentic process of curating these containers, both individually and collectively.We cover:Lena's Journey Retreat Design & StructureRelational Dynamics + AlchemyHolding Sacred SpaceParticipant Needs & Community BuildingPricing & ValueIntegration & Post-Retreat SupportPersonal Reflections & ChallengesOur Upcoming Offerings ---> last seats for Michelle's Soul Essence RetreatConnect with Lena Franklin for updates on retreats, spiritual insights, and upcoming events:Website: lenafranklin.comInstagram: @IAmLenaFranklinThis episode offers a candid and rich exploration of the transformative power of spiritual retreats. Whether you're a seasoned retreat-goer, new to immersive spiritual work, or desire to hold retreats yourself, Lena's insights and heartfelt storytelling provide a roadmap for embracing your own journey of healing and empowerment. Let's journey! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Lena is a Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist & Transformational Speaker, offering the ancient practices of meditation, energy medicine and psycho-spiritual healing to the modern world. Lena is a global teacher and speaker with areas of expertise including conscious leadership, meditation, energy medicine, longevity, holistic health, human optimization, plant medicine, shamanism, sacred reciprocity and ecosystem consciousness, supporting people to embody their highest human potential as they step into their purpose. Lena interweaves her medicine lineages from South America, Central America and Asia into her ceremonial plant medicine work, supporting the healing and transformation of humanity and our earth by being an instrument of energetic harmony. Raised in a hybrid Buddhist/Christian home, Lena was introduced to meditation as a young child and now integrates Eastern philosophy with Western neuroscience in her healing and teaching work. Formally trained with a Bachelor of Science in Psychology and a Master of Science in Clinical Social Work both from The University of Georgia, Lena is dedicated to guiding others on a journey of embodied purpose, presence and liberated wholeness. Additionally, Lena has studied and trained in Asia, Central America and South America, weaving her lineages of Mahayana Buddhism, Mopan Maya Ancient Medicine, Q'ero Peruvian Shamanism and Shipibo Medicine Wisdom into her global work as a speaker and medicine woman. Lena is the founder of The BEING Method ~ a systematic method for igniting your highest human potential through mindfulness & meditation and The Meditation Membership ~ a curated membership of audio and video meditative teachings channeled by Lena, interweaving meditation, mindfulness, energy medicine and breath. An essential part of Lena's healing work is hosting transformational workshops and immersions in sacred lands all over the globe. Throughout her career, she has guided thousands to transform their suffering into strength by accessing their multi-dimensional existence as souls in human form. Lena has been featured in Vogue, The NY Times, Telegraph, World Travel Magazine and has graced the cover of Yoga Magazine three times. Additionally, she has been featured on TV networks such as Bravo and Lifetime. Lena is the host of The Medicine Wisdom Show where she discusses a variety of holistic medicine and healing modalities with other leaders in the field. Visit her websites to learn more about her healing programs, transformative workshops and international immersions: lenafranklin.com

https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USLena FranklinWelcome, dear audience, to an extraordinary encounter with the profound and transformative wisdom of Lena. As a Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist, and Transformational Speaker, Lena bridges the ancient and the modern, offering the timeless practices of meditation, energy medicine, and psycho-spiritual healing. Drawing from her rich heritage in South American, Central American, and Asian medicine lineages, Lena's ceremonial plant medicine work is a testament to her mission: to heal and transform humanity and our Earth through the power of energetic harmony.Raised in a hybrid Buddhist-Christian home, Lena's early introduction to meditation blossomed into a lifelong integration of Eastern philosophy and Western neuroscience. With formal training in psychology and social work, she guides others on a journey of embodied purpose and liberated wholeness. Her global studies in Mahayana Buddhism, Mopan Maya Ancient Medicine, Q'ero Peruvian Shamanism, and Shipibo Medicine Wisdom weave a tapestry of holistic healing that resonates deeply in her teachings and practice.As the founder of The BEING Method and The Meditation Membership, Lena provides a systematic approach to igniting human potential through mindfulness, meditation, and energy medicine. Her transformational workshops and immersions in sacred lands across the globe have guided thousands in turning suffering into strength, revealing the multi-dimensional existence of the soul in human form.Featured in prestigious publications like Vogue and The New York Times, and gracing the cover of Yoga Magazine thrice, Lena's influence extends to television networks such as Bravo and Lifetime. As the host of The Medicine Wisdom Show, she shares her deep insights and engages with other leaders in holistic medicine, illuminating paths to healing and transformation.Join us as we delve into Lena's remarkable journey and explore the profound wisdom she brings to the world, guiding us all toward our highest potential and the sacred harmony of our souls.https://www.lenafranklin.com/http://linkedin.com/in/lena-franklin-922aa199 https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US

Welcome to a brand new dose of Fire and Soul-- the space to deepen your inner awakening and activate your highest expression. I'm honored to welcome Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist and beautiful soul, Lena Franklin to the show.You may know Lena through her work in the shamanic realms as well as host of The Medicine Wisdom Show where she discusses a variety of holistic medicine and healing modalities with other leaders in the field.This conversation runs deep in the refined nuances that transform shadow to light, the courage it takes to allow ourselves to be truly seen, and a powerful reminder that you hold within you the power to shape your reality. This one changed me on the deepest levels. It'll open you, too.Get ready to be inspired to break free from societal conditioning, follow your true north, and explore the embodiment of Divine Grace with profound gratitude as we walk the path of awakening together.Listen in to Lena's wisdom-– cosmic fuel for our conscious evolution. Let's journey!Lena is a Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist & Transformational Speaker, offering the ancient practices of meditation, energy medicine and psycho-spiritual healing to the modern world. Lena is also a founder of The EAST Institute, a leading global organization integrating ancient, indigenous ways of working with medicine and modern science. Lena teaches and educates on the Art of Conscious Leadership and Ecosystem Consciousness, supporting people to embody their highest human potential as they step into their soul's purpose.Raised in a hybrid Buddhist/Christian home, Lena was introduced to meditation as a young child and now integrates Eastern philosophy with Western neuroscience in her healing and teaching work. Formally trained with a bachelor of science in psychology and a master of science in social work, Lena is dedicated to guiding others on a journey of embodied purpose, presence and liberated wholeness. Lena is the founder of The BEING Method ~ a systematic method for igniting your highest human potential through mindfulness & meditation and The Meditation Membership ~ a curated membership of audio and video meditative teachings channeled by Lena.An essential part of Lena's healing work is hosting transformational workshops and immersions in sacred lands all over the globe. Throughout her career, she has guided thousands to transform their suffering into strength by accessing their multi-dimensional existence as souls in human form. Lena has been featured on Bravo, Lifetime, the cover of Yoga Magazine, and in The NY Times, Telegraph, World Travel Magazine and more. She is the host of The Medicine Wisdom Show where she discusses a variety of holistic medicine and healing modalities with other leaders in the field. Visit her websites to learn more about her healing programs, transformative workshops and international immersions: lenafranklin.com and theeastinstitute.comHost Resources:Check out the Soul Essence Retreat in Ojai, CASign up for the weekly Fire and Soul love letter Connect with Michelle on Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the Psychedelic Science conference in Denver, Colorado! In this episode we delve into Lena and Jeff's background story and what brought both of them to work with psychedelic medicine. We discuss the distinction between a psychedelic-assisted therapist and a medicine person, their structured healing program "The EAST Method", their microdosing program "Embody", and their partnership with "The Bonefrog Foundation" - helping veterans with TBI (traumatic brain injury) and combat-induced PTSD. 00:00 - Fire Moment 00:32 - Introduction 01:44 - Lena's Background 03:29 - Jeff's Background 06:49 - Medicine People 08:21 - The Medicine Path 12:21 - The Intention Is One 13:42 - The EAST Method, Embody 17:24 - The Bonefrog Foundation 20:40 - Last Words Of Wisdom 23:41 - Outro About Lena: Lena grew up in a hybrid Vietnamese Buddhist and Southern Presbyterian home. Her mother, originating from the Mahayana Buddhist tradition, taught her meditation and spiritual rituals when she was a young child. Lena grew up traveling back and forth from Vietnam visiting her family in the Mekong Delta. These spiritual roots deeply inform her life's work of teaching meditation and ancient forms of spiritual healing to the world. During Lena's first year in graduate school, her beloved Vietnamese mother suddenly passed from a stroke. This traumatic loss returned Lena to the spiritual seeds her mother planted within her. Lena went on to study ancient healing traditions abroad, including in Peru where she received her healer's rites from the Q'ero Shamanic Tribe. Lena's intelligent integration of meditation, transpersonal psychology, energy medicine and shamanism is an integrative and powerful approach to multi-dimensional healing. Lena's unique work has been featured in the New York Times, Yoga Magazine and The Telegraph in addition to TV networks such as Bravo and Lifetime. About Jeff: Jeff is a Shaman, Energy Medicine Man, and Conscious Business leader. Merging the ancient traditions and modern science, Jeff integrates his successful business experience with his passion for the healing work he's called to share with humanity. Jeff's formal education includes earning a BS in Biology and Physics with advanced studies in Integrative Energy Medicine, Intuitive Medicine, Energy Psychology and Clinical Hypnotherapy. Jeff has trained with and been initiated into numerous Shamanic tribes and was given the opportunity to learn from Shamans in China, Tibet and Peru, the traditional healing power of Plant Medicines. Now, Jeff is seeing clients from all over the globe for deep energetic, soul healing in addition to staying active in the Conscious Business space. Jeff has been featured on TV networks such as Lifetime and Discovery and has written for magazines and books. Links: Website: https://www.theeastinstitute.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/iamlenafranklin?mibextid=LQQJ4d Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JeffGlattsteinEnergyMedicine?mibextid=LQQJ4d Instagram: https://instagram.com/iamlenafranklin?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Instagram: https://instagram.com/jeffglattstein?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Thank you so much for joining us! Psychedelic Conversations Podcast is designed to educate, inform, and expand awareness. For more information, please head over to https://www.psychedelicconversations.com This show is for information purposes only and is not intended to provide mental health or medical advice. About Susan Guner: Susan is a trained somatic, trauma-informed holistic psychotherapist with a mindfulness-based approach grounded in Transpersonal Psychology that focuses on holistic perspective through introspection, insight, and empathetic self-exploration to increase self-awareness, allowing the integration of the mind, body and spirit aspects of human experience in personal growth and development.

In this episode, Kyle interviews the Co-Founders of The EAST Institute: teachers, facilitators, and spiritual guides, Lena Franklin and Jeff Glattstein. The EAST Institute offers educational and experiential events, and trains facilitators in the art of the EAST Method™, a multidisciplinary approach combining modern research with traditional, Indigenous methods of healing and integration, touching on transpersonal psychology, mindfulness, meditation, vibrational sound therapy, energy medicine, shamanic healing, natural plant medicines, and more. Their approach is a structured (but flexible) process that guides the experiencer through preparation, the ceremony, and integration, but with a much larger focus on preparation than is typically seen, and with a deep phase of integration touching on six key modalities. They tell their stories of what led them to follow a healing path, explain the basics of the EAST Method™, and talk about their facilitator training program. And they discuss: how beneficial it can be to introduce shadow work right off the bat; how the West needs to learn to stop deifying medical degrees and learn to trust our inner healers; the power of energy and the energetic reciprocity between our bodies and the medicine; and how we, as a culture, need to break through our conditioning – from propaganda, fear, and the self-limiting beliefs that keep us from being our best selves. www.psychedelicstoday.com

What or who are the villains in your life keeping you from the things that are meant for you? This episode holds everything from overcoming those villains, changing nervousness to confidence, and the best tips for road trips. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How to survive a long road trip Take a bet on yourself How to connect past dots to move forward The ebbs and flows of confidence is normal The ultimate way you achieve confidence How to change nervousness to confidenceThree steps to overcoming you villains Episode References/Links:Join the Pilates popup tour!Come to Cambodia!Find out more about Agency! Educated By Tara WestoverOvercome Your Villains by Heather Monahan  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyUse this link to get your Toe Sox!ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co hosts in life, Brad and I want to dig into the influential convo I had with Heather Monahan in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to the interview, feel free to pause this now, go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. Honestly, you should listen to her. (Brad: Yeah) She is written two books. She has been talking this talk and walking this walk for a long time. And if anyone's been be it till she sees it, she's one of those examples and if you've been listening to pod for a long time, you will remember many moons ago I said, I want to have Heather Monahan on this show. Boom, I have Heather Monahan on this show. (Brad: Love it.) I'm so proud of that.Brad Crowell  Yeah. I do remember she was on the wish list.Lesley Logan  She was on the wish list.Brad Crowell  Because of a quote that she said.Lesley Logan  Yes. She said, "Don't take a no from anyone who ... isn't able to give you a yes."Brad Crowell  Yeah. And I remember we had a whole conversation about that. You were really excited when you heard that.Lesley Logan  Yeah. So that hey, y'all what that means is, if someone's assistant tells you, no, they're telling you no, because I have an assistant most people know, because the person said, "I don't want to do any of these things." But that doesn't mean they don't want to ever do any of those things. They just want to make sure that like most of them don't get through. But if you find the third door, another person I want to have on the show, someone can put that person down the wish list. There's a third door and that's how you get the yes from an actual person and give you the yes, boom. Anyways, hello from Texas. We are on the road this week, officially. And we are if you're listening this like today, when this drops, we have two classes in Frisco, and we which is like just North of Dallas. It's a really cool area of Dallas at air, actually. And I've been there many times and I love it. In fact, I was just there last week, just so then we're gonna go Houston. (Brad: Tomorrow) Yep. I've actually never been to Houston. So I'm really excited about this.Brad Crowell  Yeah, I've only driven through. I've never been there to be there.Lesley Logan  Do we call them Houstonians? I don't know. Well, tell me.Brad Crowell  I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with the ... I don't know on that one.Lesley Logan  I don't know about that one. But you know, I'm sure that they're Texas. They'll tell us. Then we had to Nashville. And then it's Atlanta, then Greensboro, North Carolina, and then Cleveland and then St. Louis. And then a little hang sesh with food and Denver. (Brad: Yeah.) So Denver peeps, you need to reach out and let us know if you want in on an info. Because there's no way to buy a ticket for that situation.Brad Crowell  Yeah. And we may have some spots left on this tour here. So if you wanted to come, hang and have a class, go to onlinepilatesclasses.com/tour.Lesley Logan  Yeah. And if there are no space, spaces left, definitely let our team know, because you never know what happens with people. (Brad: It's true.) We can like ...Brad Crowell  Yeah, keep us posted. Because also too, there's a chance we may add additional classes if we get enough interest. So make sure you reach out.Lesley Logan  And well, you can also just show up. And buy flashcards if you want to buy that as a gift for yourself. (Brad: Yeah, come meet us. Come say, hi.) You could say hi to the dogs, they will be at these events, probably hanging out in the van. But we'll bring them out for people who are dog lovers. And don't forget, if you are on the waitlist for Cambodia for 2023, you have emails in your inbox. (Brad: Oh yeah.) And I know you're thinking, "Oh, I can wait till ..." Like it's fine. It's like 10 9 11 months away. So here's the deal, we actually go public with this offer. And very soon, and that means we're not holding a spot for you. We're not saving it for you. So right now the perk of being on the waitlist is that you hear about it early, and you get first dibs and it could sell out just by the waitlist. So make sure you snag your spot if that's what you're wanting to do. Especially before the price goes up. And before other people hear about it, you go to lesleylogan.co/retreat. And then one more thing that's very important we want to make sure no one misses out on this. It's like key to me. And it's something I actually preach on when we are coaching people on raising their rates. But we are raising the Agency rate on January 1st. (Brad: That's right. Yeah.) So if you've ever, ever been like, "Oh, someday I'm gonna do that." Now is the time because it will never be the price that it is right now. (Brad: That's true.) And here's the deal. We, when you join Agency, whatever rate you join in it, is the rate you get to keep (Brad: Yeah) for as long as you're an Agency member. So you'd be like think about the people been there for five years. Yeah. So don't wait till next year because think about what you could have done in this last year. If you've wondered like what Agency members have done in the past year. Let me just tell you, we've had members open new studios. We've had several open studios, by the way, actually, (Brad: Yeah) at this point in the year. I think we're at six studios this year that people have opened. (Brad: Yeah) You like, "I don't want to open a studio. I just want it for myself." Yeah, we have hundreds of people doing it, too. One of our members her her social media following has quadrupled in size, she's had like 1000s, like 10s of 1000s in one month, and her online platform has had multiple people buy. So like, whether or not you wanna work for yourself, you want to open a studio, you want to run multiple studios. We got people for you. We got Erika Quests, we got Roxy Menzies, we got Alex Street. Everyone has had a podcast here.Brad Crowell  Yeah. At the end of last year, one of our members hosted an international Pilates festival. (Lesley: Yeah) You know with so many things that have happened inside of Agency and ...Lesley Logan  Two of our, two of our pro members have teamed up to lead our mentorship together. (Brad: Yeah) They would never have met, like and trust each other in that way, if they had not had their Agency experience over these years ...Brad Crowell  People have launched teacher training programs, they've hired teachers, they've, you know, brought in new clients. There's just all the things and we want that for you. Our mission is more bodies doing Pilates. And when we empower you to grow your business, it serves what what we're trying to do as well. And we also have a lot of fun, and it takes away a lot of that anxiety.Lesley Logan  It's so fun. In Fridays, especially because it's back fuck yeah Friday. It's always wins all the time. And even people are begrudgingly doing a win because they needed a moment before. Like it's always a win. So anyways, you if you want to book a exploratory call to see if Agency is right for you, then where do they go, Brad?Brad Crowell  Just go to, DM us either, DM us on the pod or you can reach out through the Profitable Pilates website, just go to the contact page and reach out and we will happily set up a call and you'll probably talk to me.Lesley Logan  Yeah. So but again, that starts January 1st, please don't call me on January 2nd, go, "Oh gosh, can I have the old rate?" You can't actually and here's why I won't let you do that in your business. And so I can't, I have to ... operate in that integrity so that I can help you operate in your integrity. So anyways, we like to give that announcement. And that is happening in January 1st.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Before we move on that we had an audience question. They said that the question was, hey LL, you said last year that you drove 7000 miles on your tour? And obviously we're on a tour right now. How the heck do you pass all that time while you're driving? I just couldn't imagine being in the car that long myself.Lesley Logan  I think people think that like you and I are just like chit chatting like 10 hours a day. You know what I mean? I think people are thinking about like the time you're in a van with other people and like, oh my God, so long on time.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Or they're imagining Chevy Chase is, you know, like family vacations (Lesley: Yes) something like that.Lesley Logan  Yes. So because it is 2022. And it's been, you know, the 20 the 2000s for quite some time. There's lots of ways you can like we are in the van. But we're often listen to different podcasts or different books. (Brad: Yeah) We actually, probably we do the exact same thing that we do now. We have coffee together. We have meals together. But ...Brad Crowell  Yeah. I take long phone calls.Lesley Logan  I hate that so much. But he has to and I won't do them. So it's fine.Brad Crowell  Yeah, I do a lot of like, work with our team. And the phone calls keep me up, like, focused and driving and, you know, helps me stay driving on the road. And like ... (Lesley: It is true, especially at night.) You want my mind to wander.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I love my mind to be able to wander like so when he's driving. He's really on calls. When I'm driving, I am listening often to books that I want to evaluate for being podcast guests, or for being part of the book club for Agency members who want to be in a book club and read business books, or just things that are I'm curious about for my own self development. So I listened to a lot of that, of course, I listened to some my favorite pod. It's also a great time to like reevaluate my pods. So because it's a long drive, what I'll do is I'll like download a bunch of podcasts. I'm thinking of being on the regular, and I'll let them I'll see if I listened to them. Or if I'm like, "No, actually, I'm not into this at all." Because it's like, it can happen in so many consecutive episodes so I can I can get a lot done. So we...Brad Crowell  I mean also too, it's not like we're I mean except for 2020 where we plowed through the drive in ...Lesley Logan  We did it in two and a half days each way.Brad Crowell  Yeah, yeah, it was it was insane. Like two three days to get there but two and a half days to come back. We did the whole drive from Philadelphia till Vegas in 55 hours. (Lesley: Yeah) And so it literally we just did not stop we were driving for like 14 hours a day and then we would sleep and I would drive late and then we would overlap our sleep she would get up at seven and keep driving. I mean, that was that was brutal. Not gonna lie. That one was not my ...Lesley Logan  It wasn't on a fun trip. (Brad: my preference but) We will stop it a lot of like, we'll go oh, "What's that thing?" And what like pullover ...Brad Crowell  Yeah we try to include some spontaneity. We also schedule in like, "Hey dinner with friends we only get to see once a year." Or lunch or stop at a dog park, we try to take the dogs to the dog parks literally every day. (Lesley: Yeah) Just drive around in different dog parks.Lesley Logan  Well, especially because they're like they're literally in the car not doing very much at all. (Brad: Yeah) And so we take and we try to find a dog park and then you'll toss a ball for them and then I'll try to get August to chase me it's not he does not exercise. (Brad: Not so much.) But I'll work out in the dog park so like I'm the one with the kettlebell swings, if you see someone doing a workout in a dog park, Hi, it's me. Somewhere between here and Philly all the way back. But I think like it is correct, I think a lot of people think we're just doing like a natural and put things and we're just like sitting like looking out the window longingly. Like when does Colorado ever end? And is this Kansas? Or is this Colorado? Like, no, we, we there's we're there's still things that we're doing and we're quite creative people. (Brad: Yeah.) So our minds are always producing stuff.Brad Crowell  I love finding like fun little coffee shops and restaurants. So we spend time trying to find new new places to explore.Lesley Logan  So here here's so if you listen to the Rolf Potts episode, you heard how I talked about when we traveled we'll looks like gluten free options. (Brad: Sure.) When we're on the road, searching for oat milk, or gleif gluten free options will absolutely 1,000% help you find a locally owned business. (Brad: Yeah.) Even in these weird places were like, "No way LL did you find that there?" Yeah, I did. We found we found ... (Brad: ... we are in Texas.) No, we found that vegan place in South Carolina. Remember, we were in South Carolina. We were in guests with South Carolina. Remember we're like went to that ... (Brad: Oh yes.) It was, I don't know the name of the town but like I'm not ... I'm not ... and Brad so we're gonna have lunch there. I was like, "No, no way."Brad Crowell  Yeah, it was near outside the ... state park.Lesley Logan  Yeah, we have an incredible and I was like ... (Brad: We found a food truck one time.) A vegan food truck (Brad: Yeah) that was so unbelievable, I was actually sad how far away it was because I would have ordered again. And I was like, "Dude, more food truck somewhere else?" No, they didn't. But so use your like, unique thing you're interested in to find fun things to do a long road trips. We also love to shop at vintage stores.Brad Crowell  Yeah, that's fun, too. (Lesley: And) we try to go like, I think some of the craziest vintage stores we've been at or you know, like thrift shop slash vintage shops where in Texas. (Lesley: Oh yeah.) Like crazy stuff. You know like, "Wow, like how long has it been since anyone has picked this up and dusted it off?" Like ...Lesley Logan  Yeah, there's some funny things there. I also got like, shout out to downtown Tucson. (Brad: Yeah that's fun.) You have some cool ass shit. I've really loved it.Brad Crowell  There's like, there's no... there's like one street of cute funky like local (Lesley: Yeah) and all the things ...Lesley Logan  Yeah, there's (Brad: shops. Yeah.) Anyways, we are not, don't cry for us.Brad Crowell  Oh another thing we love to do is national parks.Lesley Logan  We do love a national park. (Brad: Yeah) We really really do.Brad Crowell  This trip we, well, we've already driven through Saguaro National Park in Arizona.Lesley Logan  We did that. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. We don't know which parks we're doing this trip. But I will say so just to go back to your to your question. Thank you for asking it. Trips don't have to be like about the destination. It is that cliche. It's the journey. It really is a journey. Like (Brad: Yeah, has to be.) I remember ...Brad Crowell  7000 miles is a lot of miles.Lesley Logan  Yeah. I I remember more about like, the things we do along the way, then oftentimes the thing we do when we get there best because we're wherever we're going. It's often like if we do the same thing every year sounds like that. But like I really do find it fun to find random coffee shops. And then sometimes we go the same route. So we're like, (Brad: Yeah, yeah.) "Oh, there's that place we can go." (Brad: Oh there's the shop we run at last time.) Yeah, that was so great and so it's it's so fun to do. But don't be afraid to like branch out, get off the beaten path. And then and then it is then when I do let my mind wander. It's not like I've been looking at this field for seven hours are still here, (Brad: Kansas) like fuck (Brad: Nebraska) But I've listened to some amazing books on tape. I mean, like just some really epic ones. If you're wondering what are some great roadtrip books to listen to Educated if you haven't yet listened to that and by Tara Westover. (Brad: Yeah) Amazing. I started with Brad trying to take a nap. And then I had to rewind so he could take it and then we literally wanted to finish the book. And so we were with your family like, oh, they come in in the car with us. We're taking our own car. We're taking our own car. Turn it on. So that one is so uniquely interesting.Brad Crowell  We also do like introspection, like reflection on the year, every drive, every drive and we we talk about like, what can we you know do to better serve our members that are an OPC and an Agency.Lesley Logan  We talked about a lot of ideas, we get rid a lot of ideas. (Brad: Yeah) We debate about ideas. Like, you'd be surprised how fast the day goes, even though you're just like sitting around like it really does go fast. So anyways, if you need roadtrip books, I'm ha... reached out to the @be_it_pod. We'll put it in another solo episode, but ...Brad Crowell  And go listen to Rolf Potts (Lesley: Yes) episode, which was actually very recently it was (Lesley: very recently at the time ...) episode 151.Lesley Logan  Yeah, yeah. So go listen to that. And then, you know, if you are driving to your destination, try not to like drive. "Uhh i have to drive." What can be fun about the drive? And try to find something like, I remember one of the drives we're gonna do, we're gonna stop at a crystal place, like a ground where you could like dig up your own crystals. (Brad: Oh yeah) You know what I mean? Like, or, like find something fun along the way. I don't care if it's like the biggest haystack or the biggest corn maze I would never do that. But like nothing would give me more anxiety than being in one of those. But um, but try to like find something unique along the way, the internet is amazing y'all you can literally put in like things that no one would think to do in X place and they'll somebody from like eatery or you know, whatever, weird, whatever we are ...(Brad: the greatest) the greatest. I mean, like I Googled today, like, best Thanksgiving dinners in Las Vegas, and like I got 17 restaurants to choose from. So like, believe it or not, someone's probably curated something for you to do just look it up.Brad Crowell  Love it. Okay, now let's talk about Heather Monahan. When her retiring boss's daughter fired her. Heather Monahan began to bet on herself. In the past five years, she has become a best selling author, two times over. The podcast host of Creating Confidence, and was awarded the top 50 keynote speaker of 2022. (Lesley: That's huge.) Yeah, that's pretty crazy. And in 2020, she was top 40 keynote speaker. She does all of this while being an incredible single mom, to her son, and working to empower individuals to use their strengths to achieve success.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I I really, I really enjoy like what she's doing in this world. And I think it's, it's necessary and how cool that she had this career her whole life. And that's one area that she was a top dog in that, like she really was. And then because she was fired, and she couldn't just like, go get the same job somewhere else because of like, whatever those those clauses are, she had to bet on herself. And it allowed her to (Brad: Yeah) like completely switch (Brad: She is a non compete.) Yes, thank you. That's the exact word for it. She was able to like, just try out something completely different and new. And now she's a tough speaker. She's traveling the world. She was on the Dr. Phil show. You know what I mean? Like ... like, come on. So y'all literally like, if you know someone in your life who has been fired, and you probably like, "Oh my God, I can't let that happen that." Like we hear about our parents all the time all the time, like, "Oh, so one so got fired, so and so got laid off." I feel so bad for them. It's the what if it's the best fucking thing that ever happened for their life? (Brad: Yeah) What if it is? It probably is, I mean, we can go back to the last episode, last recap. Your divorce, ... clearly was the best thing that ever happened to you. You wouldn't met me, you would never marry me if you hadn't been through that. So like, I think we all have to, like, take a moment on and when we see someone having a worst experience, like, obviously see them and feel that but then also be there to like, remind them that they're gonna like, they can bet on themselves, just like she did. So one of the things that she I'm going to pre phrase what she said, atually. She said, you don't have to know the entire plan before trying something new. Yeah, that's right. Just keep moving forward with the faith that you'll figure it out because you don't know what you don't know. (Brad: Yeah) And ultimately, you can't connect the dots until you're looking back. So you have to keep moving forward. You know, y'allBrad Crowell  Yeah. So I think I think that the idea of you don't know what you don't know. You know, and then that really the it's the reflection on the past that allows you to decide like, you know, you can start to say, "Oh, I'm glad I did this. I'm glad I did that. I'm glad this." You won't know that until you do it.Lesley Logan  Well and correct. And you try it out and also like you might not realize what'd you do know? Like you don't know what you don't know. It doesn't have to be like it's not a bad thing. Like, you might not realize you have this like skill or talent like the other day when I like pick up the chopsticks my right hand. I was actually really amazing at it. I didn't know that. (Brad: You did?) Yeah, you were there.Brad Crowell  Oh, I didn't realize it was your right hand.Lesley Logan  Yeah. I was like ... look at me pick up this carpaccio with these with my right hand. I'm lucky to y'all. And I actually like treat chopsticks like, like a fork. So anyways, I think that that whole section that was just talking about is like such a key, a key thing to remind yourself and you haven't seen the episode yet, save it, you can go back to that. Because on your worst day can feel like this is the worst that ever happened to me, it truly can't be the best if you just keep taking the next step forward. And, and trusting that it's okay if you don't know the entire plan. Like when we're coaching people in Agency, like I keep feeling like I take two steps forward. And then one step back. And I'm like, yeah, what if it was to review the dots, so you can take the next few steps forward in the right direction?Brad Crowell  Yeah. I think there was another section a part of this year, though, that I thought was interesting was, you know, to move forward with the faith, that you're going to be serving yourself well. Because you will figure it out as you go along. You know, but the idea that you clearly don't know the future, you know, and unless someone has predetermined the path for you, and like shared your career plan, sometimes that might happen, but usually not. You know, what, as you move forward, if you know where you want to get to, along the way, you don't know how will happen to get there. But you know, you kind of have this big future vision down the road. And when you move forward, it's with the intention of getting to that end game, you know, just the bet... in between, you don't really you don't have any idea what's going to happen. SoLesley Logan  Yeah. And that's okay. (Brad: Yeah) It's, it's actually kind of fun, it's going back to our road trip, like, we know, we're gonna get to Philly. We know we have stops along the way. We don't know which stores we might stop at, or what people we might run into or like, what could happen. And that's what makes it the most fun. That's why we keep doing it. (Brad: Yeah) What did you love?Brad Crowell  I really loved when she talked about confidence and that it ebbs and flows. And I thought that was interesting, because, you know, obviously, her podcast is about confidence, her first book is about confidence. And you just associate confidence with certain people. And you never imagined that there, you just think, "Oh, that person is confident." So they're clearly always confident 100% of the time. And she said, "No, that's not that's not how it works." you know. For her specifically, she said she felt super confident in her work in her career, she had spent 20 years climbing, you know, the corporate ladder in the world of radio doing sales. And but she said she didn't feel so confident in her relationships. You know, that afterwards, she could, you know, quit and land on her feet. So there was like, a lot of uncertainty there. And she said, there's not nobody is confident in all situations, there's always self doubt, that self doubt is actually part of the growth process.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I think I think it's just being aware of where you feel less confident in your life is more important than were like going, "I'm not confidnent in that." It's like, just the going like thinking about Lena Franklin. Awareness is actually part of enlightenment. And so if you can understand like, "Oh, I'm super confident at work. I'm not confident at relationships." Okay. So you're less confident in relationships. And that means that there's room for growth. You know, what I mean? I feel I feel like it's really easy for us to put a label on ourselves especially around confidence and then therefore we're just not confident there. So we don't work on that there but it's like if you can have that awareness and be okay with your confidence ebbing and flowing, a) you'll be a real human being, people actually like you just like people like Heather she is like the queen of these things. And she's an all this stuff and like she's a likable person. You know, people want to be friends with her, people want to have her around on the things, because she actually is a real human being who is okay with her confidence ebbing and flowing. And understand that some areas she feels stronger than others. And then you ...Brad Crowell  Lena's episode was 77, by the way.Lesley Logan  77. Oh, what it like that's like a good number for her. Like so anyway, I really enjoyed both of our whole conversation. I thought there's a lot that we can take away from it.Brad Crowell  Yeah, yeah. And I think that, you know, in in my my personal experience, you know, having been on stage. Confidence was something that was built. (Lesley: I think confident) And definitely I wasn't confident the first time I got on stage.Lesley Logan  And so then what you got on stage again? (Brad: Yeah) You got on stage again? (Brad: Yeah) And like we ...Brad Crowell  Because I saw myself being a performer. I was like, "I am that person." And in order for me to get to that place where I am that person, I gotta practice, I gotta do it.Lesley Logan  Right. If you are a person who is onstage performing, then you have to get on stages and perform. (Brad: Yeah) Like, like, we were just listening on the other day. (Brad: I was just thinking about this.) So we're listening to Chelsea Handler, (Brad: Yeah) and she gives advice. We also listen to Iliza Shlesinger and just in case you're listening because I want you on the show. Hi, I love I love I love listening to the questions I get. I love the ... I really resonate with a lot of their answers. But there was a woman, a person who wanted to become a comedian. (Brad: Yes) And in ...Brad Crowell  ... she already was a comedian. (Lesley: She already a comedian.) But she had an upcoming gig and she was worried about she was opening for someone and she was like, "How do I gain confidence in this?"Lesley Logan  Yeah, because where they live, there's like one Comedy Club and like, "I've got two weeks to get my confidence up." (Brad: Right.) And Chelsea was like, okay, well, normally, I'd say like, go get on every stage, you can. But there's one stage to be on, and you're about to be on it. So you need to go to the grocery store and the park and just do your set in front of people. It's like ...Brad Crowell  Yeah. She said, "Do it, do, do your set in front of your parents."Lesley Logan  Do you ... Yeah. Do you set likeBrad Crowell  And she said, "Well, I don't think they'll appreciate my humor." And the response was perfect. All the more reason you should do it in front of your parents.Lesley Logan  Yeah, yeah. Cuz that will create confidence, because you'll have done in front of people who don't appreciate it and like, so the reality is, is that confidence comes from putting yourself in a situation where you feel less confident. And then following through with the thing that you said you were going to do. (Brad: Yeah) End of story if (Brad: Yeah) you don't feel like you're a runner, you have to go, you have to say, "I'm gonna go for a run for one block." And then you run one block. And guess what, you just dropped money in your confidence bucket of running, and I'm a runner. And so yeah, you didn't run your marathon. But we're not working to that confidence, yet. We're just actually trying to show up for the thing we said we're gonna do and do the thing.Brad Crowell  And even even with this ebbing and flowing that she was talking about, nobody's confident in all situations. I had been on stage for 10 years, when I got invited to a birthday party of a dear friend of mine, and I decided to write a song and perform it on stage, but solo. (Lesley: Oh) And my whole career had been with the band. And in the band, I wasn't singing. I mean, I was singing, but it wasn't the lead person. I was like, second, and that was, you know, that was fine. I, but I had been on stage like, put me on stage with a group of people anytime. And I'm like, "I'm in. It's totally okay." But put me on stage alone. And I was like, whoa. And I was like, really feeling that one. I was not confident.Lesley Logan  You know what, that's so funny. Because remember when we were at Momentum Fest, and it was a first year of Momentum Fest, and I had like 80 plus people in this room. And it was pre pandemic. So it was like, had a break from teaching and all. And there's like my peers in the front row. And there's people like who hire me for things in the front row. And then there's all these people who were so excited to be in that room. And you were miking me up and I was like, "Is this thing on?" You're like, "No." And I said, "I'm really, like, I'm really nervous." (Brad: Yeah) And he's like you said, "Why? What is, this is what you do all the time." And it's so funny. I think sometimes we forget that we we put a lot of pressure on ourselves, which then makes us doubt ourselves, even in situations where we would normally be confident. And (Brad: Sure) so I think if you're finding your competence ebbing and flowing in areas where you normally are confident, it's just time to take a look back and it probably means you really care about that particular moment. (Brad: Right) And then look back at the wins you've had in other moments like it and you can draw on that confidence.Brad Crowell  It goes back to your favorite takeaway, where ultimately you can't connect the dots until you're looking back.Lesley Logan  I know I just connected a bunch.Brad Crowell  Yeah. I love it. All right, so finally, let's talk about those BE IT action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Heather Monahan?Lesley Logan  Well, she had a three step process and it's from her recent book, so you all go get Overcome Your Villains. Especially if you like, feel like you have a villain in your life. You gotta you gotta read this book. And it's called B A K.Brad Crowell  Yeah, she called it BAK.Lesley Logan  Yeah, BAK. So it is. Number one, what is your belief? Oh, did we talk about beliefs last week. We did. Sorry, you don't get to get over this. What is your belief? Number two, immediately take action. So for example, when she was fired, she immediately posted on social media," I've just been fired."Brad Crowell  Yeah. And then let's do all three. So what is your belief, immediately take action and then what is the knowledge you surround yourself with is number three.Lesley Logan  Okay. (Brad: Yeah) So you got all three everyone, what is your belief? Immediately take action. And then what is your knowledge? So belief, action, knowledge. Okay, so she had been fired. And and so going, "Oh I've been fired. Nobody likes me. What am I gonna do?" She actually was like, "Hey, everyone, if I've ever helped you in any way, I need to hear from you now."Brad Crowell  She posted that on social media, "Hi, I've been fired," period. Wow, that takes guts, right. Like that talk about confidence right there. And like just taking action. Because if I've ever helped you in any way, I need to hear from you now, when she when she posted that someone that she had helped, reached out to her and invited her to go on the Elvis Duran show. And that changed her life.Lesley Logan  Change her life. And also like, can we just go back to betting on yourself? So be it till you see it like she bet on herself. She didn't know what's going to happen. But she acted as if like, I'm gonna bet on myself. And if I bet on myself, I'm gonna put this thing out there that I'm only going to get great things. And something good is going to come from this, like, you know what I mean? Like, I love that. So then and then what knowledge can you surround yourself with? So don't just consume information from randos. We've talked about this before y'all on the podcast. Don't ask your your Uncle Joe, information, like advice around something that they're not knowledgeable in. (Brad: Right) And, and I've even mentioned this on one of the podcasts like, make sure you're really clear on whose opinions of you matter. Because in our family, we love them so much. And many of them listening to this, hi guys. But some people like it's not that I don't care about what they have to say about me, but they don't actually understand what we do want on a day to day basis. And so some of the things that they say, come from fear and worry (Brad: Yeah) around us. It's not, it's not that they don't actually want us to succeed. It's not about holding us back, but they're worried for us. So then they share that fear. And then (Brad: Right and that) it's knowledge I didn't need right now. You know.Brad Crowell  Yeah, I mean, I think also it's like, you know, you, you know, why would you ask a golfer about to running on a track? You know, why would you ask someone who's had a, you know, job for their whole career about being an entrepreneur, like, you know, it's, it seems obvious when you say it that way, like you're like, well, duh, wouldn't, they're not a professional swimmer. And I'm trying to be in the Olympics.Lesley Logan  But you do it all the time. (Brad: But we do it all the time.) You have that friend that you've kept too long. You kept them way too long. Ladies, we keep our friends too long. I don't understand that. And then they say something. And then if you really took a step back, you go, "I know they always say mean things to me." Then why are you like actually using their opinion to weigh in on the things that you're doing? I'm asking, it's not a rhetorical question. You need to answer out loud. I can't hear you. But you can hear you. Because it all has an impact on your life.Brad Crowell  Yeah, totally does. So anyway, the three step BAK process, beliefs, action, and knowledge. What is your belief, take immediate action and then three was the knowledge that you surround yourself with. I thought those made a whole lot of sense.Lesley Logan  Oh, easily, easily actionable (Brad: Yeah) actions. You know how I love that. So you guys get her books. (Brad: Yeah, check those out.) And listen to her podcast.Brad Crowell  And thanks for joining us today.Lesley Logan  Yeah, really. We are so happy that you're here. (Brad: Yeah) And thank you all. Y'all know, we have some of the most reviews of any podcasts in our age, (Brad: Yeah) not our age, like personally, but the age of the podcast. Like it's insane. So we couldn't have done that without you ...Brad Crowell  No ... You know, we need each and every one of you. Thank you.Lesley Logan  And thank you for sharing this with your friends. I know sometimes we were like, I actually heard you say, tag a friend. How do I do that? That's a great question. So if you don't know how to tag a friend and you want to know how to tag a friend, will you DM me on the platform you're trying to tag a friend? What does that mean? It means like, letting that person know that this is for them. (Brad: DM means direct message.) And DM means direct message. So if you will find the Be It pod on the platform, you like to use that's Facebook (Brad: Oh, actually we ...) TikTok or Instagram.Brad Crowell  We set up an email, you can email us now (Lesley: Oh) at beit@bloompods.netLesley Logan  Check that out, (Brad: Yeah) beit@bloompods.net. So so tell us which platform you are wanting to share or tag a friend. And also tell us which platform you listen to your podcasts on. Is it YouTube? Is it Spotify? Is it Amazon, but Amazon, yeah you can listen to Amazon. Is it Apple? Is it Google Play? Is it 17 other options out there? There's so many we're on every single thing. But if you do that we have someone who will help you, literally tell you how to do it. 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We have all heard it, “sending positive vibes”. But how do “vibes” really play into our day-to-day life? Brad and Lesley recap Dr. Vic's interview and dive into the impact and signs of high vs low vibrations, the importance of finding your anchor, and letting the right energy direct your path. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Winter road trips and upcoming events What a high vibration state means The signs of high or low vibrationsThe benefits of operating in a high vibration How to use a pause as a resetWhy you need to be enlightened and aware to use it as a compass for directing energyCreating your vision so you have a compassUse your vibrations to find what is for youEpisode References/Links:Agency Mini profitablepilates.com/mini  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.Be It Till You See It Podcast SurveyResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co hosts in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the abundant Convo I had with Dr. Vic in our last episode. If you haven't yet listen to that interview with feel back, feel free. Feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one and then come back and join us. It was there's so much information, there's so much positivity. (Brad: Yeah.) He was like, he was like taking like a dose like a like a, do you know what I mean? Like a zap off ... like of zap off of positivity and ability. And I just really enjoyed that.Brad Crowell  Think he was giving it. (Lesley: Yeah.) Yeah.Lesley Logan  So anyways, if you're listening to this in real time, we're in Nashville. (BradL In Nashville.) Yeah, we're hanging out with episode, I can't think of the number but I think it was in the 40s, Lauren Zoeller. Lauren Zoeller. (Brad: Zoeller) Yeah. Lauren Zoeller. We're hanging out her house. And we're hanging out a bunch of, actually, I think are gonna I think we're in meetings with a bunch of people who've been on the pod.Brad Crowell  Yeah. Also Amber Shaw.Lesley Logan  I know. I know. I hope she's there.Brad Crowell  Maybe Tori. (Lesley: I think so.) We're going to a coaching weekend. (Lesley: Yeah.) We're actually going to bump into a bunch of people ...Lesley Logan  Bunch of are friends. (Brad: Yeah.) That's how we hang out. We're like, (Brad: We're friends.) we're like ...Brad Crowell  slash let's all learn together.Lesley Logan  Let's all learn together. It's a write off, we get to hang out and write it off. (Lesley laughs) Oh my gosh, it's so fun. So anyways, we come home. And we literally kick off our seventh Agency Mini, which is our seven day coaching program, which you've been listening to this show. You've heard us talk about it. And you have the final moments if we have spots left to sign up right now. And if there are no spots left to get on the waitlist for the next one. If you're like, I'll just wait for the next one, then you shouldn't you shouldn't try to get into this one because ...Brad Crowell  You should totally try to get into this one. This one's going to be amazing. We are going to have a couple of guest coach appearances.Lesley Logan  Yeah, we are we are.Brad Crowell  ... You'll have to be there.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I know some of them are going to be total surprises for even our Agency members. (Brad: Yeah.) Which is really exciting who we have some of our Agency members on Profitable, hanging out instead of Mini to support everybody. But we only offer this twice a year. So if you wait to the next time, you're literally holding your business back for months of generating income and getting support and maybe not wasting time on things that won't work and actually like dial in things that well. So that's happening. And then we go to Chicago (Brad: Yeah.) for Pilates on tour. (Brad: That's gonna be fun.) And Erika Quest and I are teaching a workshop together. And then you have a table with our flashcards and our book.Brad Crowell  Yeah, come hang with Brad at the table.Lesley Logan  And then we come home on our seventh year wedding anniversary on the day. And then we have 48 hours to get ready for a bunch of people to be at our house (Brad: Yeah.) for our business retreat. (Brad: Yeah.) So woah! I'm so excited for water, sleep, my higher dose mad, my red light therapy and our incredible team who helps us get all of this done so that we can support all these people because we frickin love doing it.Brad Crowell  Absolutely, I can't I really can't wait to see everyone not only hanging out in Nashville, but actually getting to meet a bunch of people in the Pilates world in Chicago. And then of course, diving diving deep into your businesses for those of you who are joining us here in Las Vegas for the business retreat. (Lesley: Yeah.) So I can't wait.Lesley Logan  I was like dipping. What are we dipping?Brad Crowell  Yeah. We are dipping. If you want ... more information about Agency Mini, just go to profitablepilates.com/miniLesley Logan  Yeah, and Pilates on tour is on the Balanced Body site. And you you can't miss it. Like it's gonna be amazing. It's the first in person event they've had since the last time I was with them, which was in October 2018. So wow! (Brad: Yeah.) Holy frickin moly. (Brad: in a minute) Here we go in a minute. I'm gonna need a question from the audience, Brad.Brad Crowell  Yeah. So we got a question from someone asking, "Are you planning to drive around the country again this winter?" And the answer is, yes.Lesley Logan  Yes. We're still, at this moment of recording, we are still working on it. But we did see it, we did get to talk to Joel.Brad Crowell  We did. I think that this kind of goes hand in glove with our tours that we have been doing the last handful of years. You know, skipping COVID year of course, but I think this this year, we have a different timeline. We have to be back in Vegas for January one for a wedding.Lesley Logan  For actually December 31. (Brad: Oh, December 31 for a wedding.) Yeah, I know. So we are working on planning out the route. And we're kind of thinking we'll leave a little earlier and do the tour before the holiday.Brad Crowell  Yeah. It'll probably all happen first. And then we'll hang (Lesley: We haven't ...) with family before turning around and come to Vegas.Lesley Logan  We have not ... Yeah. We have not picked all the cities yet. We're still working that out. And so you can throw your city in. (Brad: Yeah.) You absolutely can throw your city and I will say ...Brad Crowell  It's gonna be a different route this year than normal because we don't have the luxury. I was really hoping to get up into the Northeast. Get up into Canada even but I'm not sure we're gonna pull it off this year.Lesley Logan  He always has hopes it will dry and (Brad: ... really we're going Canada.) no winter time. I know. But I don't want to go, why would we drive into Toronto in the winter? (Brad: Because we're going to be on that side of the world.) To my Torontonians I fucking love you. I just don't like, tell Brad if like summer driving into Toronto is a better idea. (Brad: I know it is. I've been there.) Yeah. (Brad: Yes.) I have not. But anyways, so we you can throw your city out there. Typically, we have host studios. They're usually affiliates of OPC. And they basically help us promote it in the area. We pop in, we do a workout, we have a little hang. And then Brad and I give the dogs walk and get back on the road. But we're super excited to get that planned. And so yeah, we the answer is yes. I know the answer before is like I don't know. But the answer is now, yes. And I'm excited to, I'm excited to do like just it's like a one legged tour. It's like a tour on one end. (Brad: We're gonna hop.) Yeah, we're gonna hop hop hop. But yeah, it's, but we're very excited to be able to attend a wedding. So we're trying to make that work, which just means traveling back from Philly to Las Vegas in literally four days.Brad Crowell  We've done it and we've done it faster.Lesley Logan  We've done it faster. So I think it's possible. (Brad: It's possible.) Yeah, it's possible. Okay. So yeah, you can just hit up opc.me/chat if you want to throw your city and there and then our team will figure out like if whether if you're on a route that allows us to get from, I wouldn't say a to b but it's literally LV to PA and, and back. So and you would be surprised what's on the route because Atlanta is on that route. We are working out (Brad: Oh, yeah.) Atlanta. We talked to Joel as I mentioned from Vitality Method. So we'll see you there.Brad Crowell  Looking forward to that. Okay, now let's talk about Dr. Victor Manzo, transitioning from a practicing Pediatric Chiropractor meaning kids. Right? I didn't know. (Lesley and Brad laughs)Lesley Logan  The way you said that was like as if the word Pediatric is is new.Brad Crowell  It is like I didn't know Chiropractors worked on kids.Lesley Logan  Brian, our Chiropractor (Brad: I know Brian does) works on kids. He has pictures of kids.Brad Crowell  Before I met Brian, I didn't know that was a thing. So yes, I didn't realize that Chiropractors could do that. Anyway, moving right along. A practicing Pediatric Chiropractor too, a spiritual business mindset coach. Dr. Vic is on a mission to influence and help people become aware of their limiting beliefs, their habits, standards, and the stories they tell themselves. Then he shares his insights to help them reframe and change their beliefs to support life they love. Dr. Vic is also the creator and owner of The Mindful Experiment Podcast and the author of three books that are seeking to assist people in their everyday spiritual lives.Lesley Logan  And also, just so you know, Manzo is like the American way and Manzo is the Italian way. So if you if you can say either, apparently, but if you wanted a little education in languages. (Brad: Good to know.) Yeah. (Brad: Dr. Victor Manzo.) Yeah.Brad Crowell  But you have to say it with a British accent.Lesley Logan  I know. I'm saying, I don't think that's how it sounds either. But we're just gonna keep going. I'm just gonna let that roll. Okay, one thing I love that he said was our job is to stay at a high vibration. And I think we can all agree that that is a very positive and helpful thing. And I think the next question is like, "Okay, but how do we do this?" Because you can no longer go, "Yes, I need to stay in high vibration" and then boom, you're in a low vibration state and it's like, "Oh, I'm trying to stay in a high vibration."Brad Crowell  I don't even know what a high vibration state means.Lesley Logan  Okay. Well, that's, that's an even better question. So I would say you are in a high vibration. There's a flow state, you know, when like, things come easy to you when you're at work, and you just like, just get a ton of stuff done. You said this before, like, "I got a ton of stuff done."Brad Crowell  Oh, yeah. (Lesley: Yeah.) I always looked forward to that. Like I really, and it was like, for me, it was like, "Don't ever talk to me, don't bother me. I mean, I'm in the zone."Lesley Logan  Yeah. But it's, you often don't know that you don't want anyone talk to you because you're until you're in the zone, you (Brad: Yeah.) don't go, "Don't talk to me, I'm in the zone." (Brad laughs) That would not be a high vibration. You are, you like start to get in this flow state and you start to and everything comes a little easier for you. And so when you're in that, that's like you're trying to tap into that. And that state and that's not easy. And you cannot be there if you're like, "Oh, fuck this, this thing is not working." Ah that you like, though, when you get when you're really snappy at little things, you are in a low vibration. So just just a quick thing if you are like if somebody bumps into on the street, or someone cuts you off while you're driving, there's your sign. You're not a high vibration. But if you are like driving, and someone ...Brad Crowell  Well, it depends on how you react to them cutting you off. You don't have any control over them cutting him off, but how you react to them. (Lesley: Correct.) Yeah.Lesley Logan  Yeah. So anyways, you don't have a buffer on your cars like this a high vibration car, park up. (Lesley laughs) Anyways, so the idea is like, we have to our job is to try to stay at the high vibration. Now that requires work. But that's what job is, that's what a job is. It's also an exercise. And you're going to have times where it's easier to stay the high vibration and times when it's harder. And you you maybe can't stay in there as long because you tap out sooner. But you know what it's up, the more you can, he said anchoring will help you find a high vibration moment in your life. So anchoring is he's, a lot of times people use this, like anchor into something. So you can think back to a time this what do you exit, think back to a time when you it was easy for you to do that. Like we just was like, oh, you know, when you say you're at work, and you do it like this. So you you think about what that is? And then you can also think about what happened before that, that allowed that flow state to happen or how did you set that up, so becomes really easy for you. So if there was a time when you like, were really confident or really positive in your life, it was a really happy moment, you can go and go into meditation, you can think about that moment. And then you can go, you can actually feel it in your body. Like if I asked you to feel about a time right now, everybody think back to the time when you were like, feeling the most positive, like, on top of the world. Like you just felt like, "Oh my God, this is the most amazing, I never want to stop." Sometimes for me, it's on the top of a hike in Hawaii, like when you're there and like you're like, "Wow, I just feel so like, literally in inside myself in the most positive and like, I never want this to end. What did that feel like? What does it sound like? Like, what does it taste like?"Brad Crowell  Yeah, a lot of times it's an achievement or a win that you've, you know, just add in your life and whether that was a something that you've been, you know, chasing for a very long time or something that just happened, you know, for you remember how you felt in that moment. You know, there's a he describes it later on in the pod as like the moment of bliss or joy, you know exuberance, happiness. And you know, that I think that he, he kept saying something throughout it that was a little bit woo for me, he's like, you gotta like, you know, be in the vibe. And it's funny because I use the word vibe, but like I am, what was really surprising to me is that he's a doctor who went into being a spiritual guide, which is kind of the opposite of what I expect most people to do, because they're trying to prove something right and so they go and they really get into like science and medicine and like proof, and tangible, and logic and like he is all the foundation of that doctoral, you know, logic and then he's actually applying it into the spiritual, the the attaining a spiritual life (Lesley: Yeah.) and, and when he's talking about this vibe, he said he said that the he said basically when you're operating when you are attaining achieving in a higher vibe, you are going to have a better life. (Lesley: Yeah.) And you're going to achieve more things. Life is going to work for you more often, (Lesley: People want to be around you.) people want to be around you. Yeah, he talks about that, like being in a room around someone who is operating at a higher vibe, you want to just be in their presence. And you know, and then, and then when you two were talking about like, well, how do you, how do you identify the higher vibe? That's what he's talking about anchoring. Remembering a moment where you've had a crazy celebration in your life or something really amazing. And he talks about his daughter, or if it is not his his child just being born six weeks ago or whatever. And in that moment of joy that he felt, then is something that that's an anchor, that's something he can be like, "Okay, cool."Lesley Logan  Yeah. Yeah, I think like, so find your anchor. And then, and then if you are ever out, if you're ever feeling like, "Wow, I'm just like losing it every few minutes, right now, today is not a great day." Take five seconds to like, go back to that moment, like maybe have to write on a post it notes. So you just it's easily I know, I can't think of good things when it's a bad thing. So I like have it somewhere where you can easily access it. (Brad: Yeah.) And and then go try to anchor into that and see if you can tap into that high vibration. I know for me, I'll turn on my red light therapy, and I'll sit and play this one little mantra meditation takes like five minutes. And it's like, all these positive mantras. And I'm like, "I feel so good when it's over." So you know (Brad: Well ...) your thoughts, the tools out there.Brad Crowell  I liked that you said that, because he was talking about forcing it, you know, and taking a pause, and allowing that to be effectively like a reset button, you know, and he was, there was actually a lot of conversation about forcing it. And I know, I know that I do that. Or I'm like, "I have to get this done. I only have another hour to get this done." And I'm like ehhh. Right. And and like to be honest, it's generally not my best work.Lesley Logan  Or it takes longer if you just take in 15 minutes to like, go rest, go reset, you (Brad: Yeah.) might come back and get it done faster. And you won't, it'll be better work.Brad Crowell  Yeah. (Lesley: Yeah.) And that, you know, it can be as simple meditation as it were, where you are effectively stepping back from something that might be frustrating you and and reflecting back to what your your anchor is, where you can, "Okay, how do I reframe where I'm at right now? How do I get back into joy?" Right. Before I then go get back into this project that I have to get done. (Lesley: Yeah.) So yeah, that's really interesting. And what I really loved about that is a) I felt there was a very practical approach, but also to, he said, "Hey, look, you know, give yourself a break here." This is something that's a habit you have to create, you know, you can conceptualize it right now. But in the moment, you may forget. And so you know, it's okay. This something you need to practice.Lesley Logan  Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you can't get in like, I think it's so weird that we want to get everything right the first time. I say this with Agency members, like we teach them something, and then they get frustrated, like, "I can't do it." It's like, "We'll you just learned it, like five seconds ago." Once you don't, like you don't like you can get it conceptually, but then you got to do it. And you're like, "Ah, it's a great." Because you just learned it. You just learned you have to do it again. And then you have to learn it from a different angle. And then you have to like put into your own words. So you can't you have to just be, you have to just be kind to yourself. And (Brad: Yeah.) like when you are being hard on yourself about how you're not good enough. The first time you do something you are that's just here's your sign. Not a high vibration. I feel like Jeff Foxworthy, "Here's your sign, you are in low vibration."Brad Crowell  All right, so finally, let's talk about those BE IT action items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Dr. Vic, Victor Manzo? (Lesley: Yeah.) He had, he kind of he repeated himself a handful of times throughout the thing, the whole interview so I thought that was great because it made it he's got like a very clear path on how to stay in that high vibration. And so right out of the gate, he said, "You need to have or create your vision." Okay, and that vision for, the vision is for your life. You know, do you see yourself staying where you are doing the thing you're doing? Is that something you love and you're already doing that thing? Or are you not where you want to be? Where do you want to be? And he suggested to make that like an anchor or sorry to play that like a movie in your head and associate it with those vibes from the anchor that we already talked about earlier. Right? So you know, if you are like, I'm going to get that promotion at work, you know, and so "see" yourself getting the promotion at work. I mean, you hear this actually, from football players all the time, like, see yourself scoring the goal, see yourself catching the ball, see yourself getting past the opponent, whatever, you know. And then he talked about relating that vision that you're creating with the emotions, the joy from that moment that you're anchored.Lesley Logan  You know, they've actually done studies where they had people think about working out like literally put their mindset into like, actually, like lifting weights in their mind. And then they had people workout, but not think about it. And then they had people do both. And the people who worked out and people thought about working out had the same strength scores.Brad Crowell  I did not know that.Lesley Logan  Yeah, like, yeah, it's because our mind is so powerful. (Brad: Amazing.) And like when I was talking with Jay, Jay Grimes, he's my Pilates mentor. He, I told him this, and he's like, "Oh, yeah." He's like, "I used to get so tired after teaching two hours, because my body was like, doing the workout with them." Like, the muscle, like, he's like, "I wasn't rounding forward, I was just standing there. But like, my muscles, were doing the things." And I because you're like, (Brad: So, I mean ...) feeling it, you know. And so even ...Brad Crowell  No wonder teaching can be very draining.Lesley Logan  It can be and then people bring their own weird emotions too. And then client's bring theirs.Brad Crowell  They are bringing those low vibrations.Lesley Logan  Yeah. (Brad: Yeah.) But he, but he talks about, like, you know, even he says, now he's like, "Mate, I want to, I want to, like, I want to feel, I want to feel your mood while exercising. Like, I, he can't do it now. So I want to feel for you, you know, so you gotta do that way." (Brad: Sure.) So I think you have it, I love what his point was. And I think like, it's not, I don't think we give ourselves enough time to sit still. And like picture the thing that we want. And like, create that, like, see the vision. (Brad: Yeah.) And even if you're not a visual person, then write it frickin down.Brad Crowell  Yeah, he did talk about that. He said, a lot of people, maybe they can't, like, create, like a movie in their head, but they can write it down and then and they create the story that way. (Lesley: Yeah.) Yeah, totally.Lesley Logan  So, I really loved um, become aware and use it for that as a compass for the work that you want to achieve. So like he was talking about vibe and paid attention and the excitement gave a whole demonstration about like, rub your hands. Do you ever remember? I remember being a kid in a school bus and like, we would like put our hands like, do you ever do this? Where you like put your hand like close to their hands? You could do with me. Do with me. Give me your hand. (Brad: Okay.) And like you would you would like get close with your hand and (Brad: Oh, yeah.) they got further away. (Brad: I feel the heat.) And you can, yeah, you feel that, you can feel energy. (Brad: Yeah.) Yeah. So we've ...Brad Crowell  He actually talked about taking your hands and rubbing them together. (Lesley: Yeah.) And then holding them slightly apart and you can feel you know that energy between them.Lesley Logan  I'm vibing so high. I didn't even need to do that. You felt it anyway. (Brad and Lesley laugh) But anyways, like he gave like a very kinesthetic exercise you could do to feel that vibe. And you can also just the I think it's really interesting like awareness is so key. And we even talked with like Lena Franklin, she's like, once you're aware you're enlightened. But when you can actually have that feeling of like when you become aware what you're wanting and the vibe you want to have. It is so much easier to use that as a compass and know how far off you are. I'm turning because I'm like, and then like how, like a compass. Right. You can come back to it.Brad Crowell  Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I think I feel like we're missing a step to connect those dots here. So the first what he's talking about is we operate better when we are in a high vibration. Right. But we're not always in a high vibration. (Lesley: No.) Right. And so ...Lesley Logan  You can change, you can be in high vibration in the morning and low by an hour later. Like you can it's like you're a human.Brad Crowell  So the, so we operate better at a high vibration, and we're not always operating in a high vibration. Right. So then we have, how do you know what a high vibration is? That's where the anchoring is. Right? And then we have going out and doing life. And in you then once you understand, once you begin to associate high vibration, and identity be able to identify that internally throughout your day, which is where the practice part comes in. Then when you're trying something new. You can start to feel, "Am I in the right place? You know for this"? And you can start to identify like, "this thing might not be for me." You know and this other thing, "Oh yeah, this is totally for me." Because you're starting to to associate like you start to identify, "Oh, yeah, this, this makes me feel good."That's why I feel like it's a compass. Right? Because when you identify, "This is my this is my anchor. This is my high vibration." Right. And you're doing something that is like 100% not making you connect with that vibration, you can start to say, "Well, maybe maybe I don't want to go be, this isn't my thing."Lesley Logan  I also just want to like, counterpoint, which I know I talked about, we love what you said. But I think with that description, it's very easy for someone to try something new feel like their compass is off. And it's actually the people that they did the new thing with, and it's not the new thing. For example, I really loved that lyric class that I did. I thought the teacher was great. I had the best time, it was amazing. I went back, and my compass was like, "This is off. This is not fun." I left feeling worse than when I came. And then I didn't go back. And actually, the reality was, is just the people that I was with for that moment, made the compass off (Brad: Interesting.) not the thing. So I really think that people there's like ...Brad Crowell  So it's almost like something that we can bring. It's something we bring to a situation. And it's also something that we can be paying attention to.Lesley Logan  Yeah, I mean, let's just think about like, you and I used to go on hikes. We love hikes. (Brad: Yeah.) And there's a few hikes in there that I remember going, "Fuck this shit. When was this fucking hike over?" Because the people brought it the low vibration. The people took the compass the wrong way. And so I think it's like, we have to be really mindful of like, is it the activity or is or the location or is it the person? Because there are some things I frickin love doing that I would never do it some people. And so I think we can be a little quick to go, "My compass is off. This isn't for me," when actually, it that's the thing. It's just the wrong. Like, can you imagine if your first date experience blew up and was the worst thing ever? Like, I'm never dating again? No, it was the wrong date. Right? Like, or your first job was like, the most awful experience? Like I'm never working again.Brad Crowell  Yeah but I think that's exactly right. When you know that something is your high vibration. Right? For like, for example, that moment of joy, whatever that is. And then you go on a date, and you're like, "This did not bring me joy. This is nowhere where the close to where I want to feel (Lesley: Right.) to be." Then you know, then you can say, "All right, cool." You know?Lesley Logan  Yeah, but that's my point. You know, it's that person, not the dating, not the activity. You went on another date with somebody else. (Brad: Yeah.) Yeah. I think we're saying the same thing. I'm just making sure people ... (Brad: It's not always about people tho.) No, it can also be the nice amazing people on the worst activity. I think that's, I think we need to compasses. (Brad: Yeah.) Are there like compasses with like a node? A weather pattern. I don't know. Like, I feel like there's like a dewpoint that goes along. I don't know, there's just has to be another layer. Because I really, I'm a little wor... I'm a little concerned that some people will go, "Oh, my compass is off. I didn't like this thing," when maybe it's not the thing. It's like, the place where the thing was. The person where the thing was. I'm not trying to tell people to convince themselves to do something different. But I'm just a little worried that people might give up on the first try of some things based on this one particular example.Brad Crowell  Here's what I think we're gonna do. I think this is a really interesting conversation. I, we're gonna send this to Dr. Victor Manzo. And we're gonna get his input. (Lesley laughs) But in the meantime, (Lesley: Because I really love it.) in the meantime, we want your input. (Lesley: Yeah.) Where do you stand here? Is this something that you're applying or something that you're putting yourself in a situation and then feeling? Right? Or are you applying it to a situation because you're reframing your mind?Lesley Logan  Yeah, I just, I just want to I just want to make sure that we're not giving pe... like giving people, I totally agree with what he said, when I was on the podcast. What I'm a little concerned with, with just the way we're talking about it, is that we're making it so that it's, it might be too easy to write off something that just might there might be the wrong ingredient. It's like a food. It's like, if you like I like there's Latkes right, and there's all these different types of flavors. And there's a couple that I would never ever eat and there was a few that you put some apple sauce on it and fuck yeah, I want that. So I'm just I'm just trying to say like, I'm a little concerned that people might write something off that's right for them, but it was in the wrong place, people or thing.Brad Crowell  Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna talk to doc. (Lesley laughs) And we're gonna leave us a voicemail. (Lesley: Yeah.) And put it into one of the recaps coming up.Lesley Logan  Yes. Okay, (Brad: Yeah.) sounds good. (Brad: I love it.) Okay, I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan  Thank you so much for joining us today. We're so grateful you're here. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Let us know by sending us a DM to the pod. And or you can you can put a comment on the YouTube. (Brad: Yeah.) Um, we don't have a phone number for you to call in and leave a voicemail but you can leave a voice message on on the Instagram. So, I sound like an eighty year old, you can do on the Facebook. (Brad: You can do on the w w's) (Lesley laughs) You can do on the emails. (Brad laughs) Anyways, thank you so much and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell  Bye for now.Lesley Logan  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. 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Welcome to a new collab episode, in which I'm joined by Lena Franklin, Modern Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist, and founder of The EAST Institute. We'll be talking all about spiritual and multidimensional healing, ancient practices, and the power of the present time. What to watch for: -Moving through fears and traumas. -Transforming beyond our wildest dreams. -Noticing the limiting beliefs as they arise. -Giving ourselves permission to start again. -Honoring all the parts of ourselves. Words to live by: “You don't realize how unhappy you are until you actually want to crawl out of an intense situation.” “When we get to a point where we are willing to do the work and we see all the parts of ourselves, anything becomes possible.” “At a certain point it's not about bypassing, it's really about alchemizing the limiting belief.” “We can't heal what we are not aware of.” IG Melissa Ruiz: @iammelissaruiz @wakingupwithmelissa IG Lena Franklin: @iamlenafranklin

I am so happy to welcome you into today's mega powerful episode. We have the great pleasure of sitting with not one, but two amazing guests.  Lena Franklin is a modern medicine, woman, transpersonal psychotherapist, and transformational speaker. She offers the ancient practices of meditation, energy medicine, and psycho-spiritual healing in an accessible way.  Her partner, Jeff Glattstein is a dedicated healing professional, teacher, and spiritual guide with decades of study and practice in the arts of shamanic healing, energy medicine, Tai Chi and more. He has been initiated into many different shamanic traditions, and if that wasn't enough, he's also an accomplished entrepreneur, writer, teacher, and guides groups on spiritual adventure retreats with his partner Lena.  Lena and Jeff are also both the founders of the East Institute, a global organization that exists to support the healing and awakening of humanity and the planet through ancient embodied practices, plant medicines, and cutting edge science. Top 5 Things You'll Learn from This Episode: each of their individual healing paths that got them both individually in a place of readiness for twin flame reunion or sacred partnership the WILD story of how they met how “initiations” became a theme for them throughout their time together and separately some of most spiritually pivotal experiences in their lives Publicly sharing for the first time about their deeply life-changing and clearing away scenarios encountered once they grew into a couple, where greatest fears and challenges were faced  There is so much medicine in their storytelling, so kick back, light a candle, set an honoring space, and enjoy. Make sure to join us in our closing practice: a guided shamanic journey (from both Lena and Jeff) that can allow you to get more fully connected with your soul and what you're really here to be.  Find more from me on IG at @IAMALYSONCHARLES or alysoncharles.com. Find out more about The East Institute at https://www.theeastinstitute.com/ (eastinstitute.com), and connect with Lena at https://www.lenafranklin.com/ (lenafranklin.com) or on social media @iamlenafranklin. Connect with Jeff on Instagram at @energymedicineman This episode was made possible by my new book, Animal Power—available now! You can find out more at my website, http://alysoncharles.com/animalpower (alysoncharles.com/animalpower).

The conversation with our body has been defined for us since birth. The comments made as you grew up helped shape your mindset. It's not your fault, but it is time to change the dialogue around food and our definition of health. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:* Changing the conversation around food for the next generation * Redefining what health means to you. * The line between health and obsession * Why people are still trying to be certain sizes* Learn and relearn your definition of health * How to change the dialogue in your own headEpisode References/Links:* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennyschatzle/?hl=en* Jenny Schatzle Ted Talk: Rewiring how you look at yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DNqKig7Xis* Jenny Schatzle Ted talk: The opinion that really matters https://www.ted.com/talks/jenny_schatzle_the_opinion_that_really_mattersGuest Bio:Jenny Schatzle's passion is to change the conversation on body image, self worth and the power of movement. Her ambition is teaching women to live the life they want, not the life they think they should. She is an author, mother of twins, speaker and business owner. Her newest book, Breaking the cycle helps you get to the root of toxic cycles holding you back. Through tools, conversation, and mindset Jenny helps you create solutions that will change your life forever.Motivational, authentic and relatable Jenny is a highly sought after speaker and guide for women who want to make lasting change and impact in their own lives. She has been featured in dozens of media outlets worldwide and has two TEDx talks that had audiences on their feet. Jenny believes her true purpose in life is to help women feel good about themselves and empower everyone to change the conversation.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable PilatesSocial MediaInstagramFacebookLinkedInEpisode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Hi, Be It listener. Holy frickin moly! Get your notes out and if you're driving, you are just going to listen and want to come back ... you're going to come back. This is an episode you will 100%, 100% save. I've Jenny Schatzle y'all here. And when I tell you like girl crush, like fucking girl crush. I met her before any of us knew what was going on with the world. And I was at this incredible event by Erica Hood, who was also a podcast guest. Brad will tell you what the episode was. But she had wrapped your womanhood as an event and it was just women supporting women. And Jenny Schatzle came up to me and she introduced herself and she told me what she was doing. And she's like, "I'm changing the conversation." I was like, like, I like the the boldness that was in her, the confidence that it was in her like, and when I say this, like, there was not an ounce of me that doubted that that's exactly what she was doing. And I, at the time I was living in LA and that is, like that's a city where you can kind of see like, people are saying what they're doing, but you like, "Are really doing that?" They're like this one was doing it. And she sat up there and at the panel, and I knew exactly why she was invited, I knew exactly what she was doing. And I just was like, "I've got to be friends with her." And then of course, you know, as the world shut down, and I had had pivot everything in our businesses, I just kept following her and kept commenting our stuff, kept staying in touch with her, kept laughing at her videos, and I share all that because sometimes like you are inspired by someone and one, they might you might be inspiring the right back but two, their when someone is working so hard at something, you got to support them. You, I'm telling you, you got to support them because a) it makes you feel freakin good that you're doing it, b) it makes them realize that they are they are making a point, they are making sense, they are getting their word out. And it and when they are doing something that's so powerful, it it rubs off on you. And I know for a fact that so many of the things she has said, so many things she's done. They've hit me on days when I've had we'll be talking about like bad body days. Some of her points have hit me on bad body days. And I'm like, "Oh, Les, remember who you are. Remember what you're doing. Remember why you're doing this." And I don't want to keep talking because I do want you to get into this episode. Our conversation is just, it's just really amazing. But it is if you are someone who ever has bad body days, this is literally for you. Re listen to it as many times as you need. Her BE IT action items are freaking awesome. There are so many quotes in here. I, my team is going to have to quote them all. (Lesley laughs) So that she can have them but also so that we can remind you whenever we need to that you got to stop outsourcing your frickin good days and bad days of the scale. And this one, this woman is on a mission to change the conversation. She really really truly is. She lives it. She breathes it. And you're going to get that on this episode. So after this brief message, here's Jenny.Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Alright, Be It listeners. I have the one and only Jenny Schatzle here. I met this woman she is fire. Okay, so when she actually when I let her talk, she was just going to blow your mind. I couldn't take my eyes off of her, my ears off of her. I really fell in love with her. I met her like two weeks before. Everything changed in everyone's world. And she has just been fired to watch makes me laugh on her Instagram. She inspires me and I had to get her here on the podcast for all of you. So Jenny, can you tell everyone who you are? What you're doing? What you're like so fired up about?Jenny Schatzle 4:29  Oh, first of all, thank you for having me. It's so fun just being here with you, and all your listeners. My name is Jenny Schatzle and I am here to help women change the conversation on body image, confidence and movement. So, I think we're about to have a really impactful, powerful conversation and I can't wait.Lesley Logan 4:47  I am so excited. So I would love for you to share like how did this come about? Is it when you had daughters? Were you thinking about doing this before? By the way your kids make me laugh so much and so or was it something that like had been part of your, your drive for many, many years.Jenny Schatzle 5:06  So I, yes, I own a gym in Santa Barbara, California. I have been in the fitness industry for over 20 years. And what I just realized was I did all the things you were supposed to do, I gave people restrictive diets, I weighed them in, I did measurements, I did before and afters, I did them for myself, myself, pretty much my entire life. I grew up very much in a diet binge, not only family cycle, but life cycle. And, and I just got to this point where I realized it wasn't sustainable. It wasn't making me happy, and the continual conversation of when I do this, so like, when I lose the weight, then I'll have more energy. When I have a flat stomach, then I'll be happy. When I fit in this size four pant, then my life will start. And even when I was at my fitness, my goal weight, my low body fat, I never realized it because it was never good enough. And so I had this aha moment. And, you know, luckily it was before I had children, and then I was blessed with twins. And not only twins, but girl twins. So I have two little girls, Hope and Haven. And my movement really, you know, I thought, "God, we really need to change this for the younger generation." But here's the stopping point. We cannot change it for them, unless we're changing it for ourselves. And I really believe not only women, but moms, you know, it's like we are, I don't care what anybody says "we're the head of the household." You know, we are we are doing all the things, but we are the ones also saying all the things. So this message that we have about our bodies, about food, about our own self worth, is so ingrained in us that we don't even realize how toxic it is because we've been saying it for so long. So (Lesley: 100%) ya know, I always ask everybody like, "Where, you know, think about where do you start the change? It's got to start with the conversation, the conversation we have with ourselves, and the conversation we have with each other."Lesley Logan 7:09  Yeah, I mean, like, I think back to my entire childhood, because my grandmother was very large. She always has been and she like the the thing she would always say is like like they should never have taken her off fen-phen because it was the best thing that worked and like (Jenny: Oh) that. Like I grew up as a junior high kid knowing what Fen-Phen was, knowing what Weight Watchers all those things. And so I remember, I remember this like, like, probably seven years ago, six years I was with my husband, we were in Joshua Tree going to the grocery store, and there was a woman. And she was wearing a t shirt as a dress. And she walked with such confident and she had cellulite and tiger marks, all the stuff. And I looked at her and I thought, "I don't walk with that much confidence." And I was like, "What is my deal?" Like, it was like this weird outer body experience. And that's when I realized we're going, I, I am I'm like, I'm also doing the whole watching what I eat, like the conversation I have with myself. And I was like, "I'm if I'm not happy in this body, when am I gonna be happy. So look at her. She's happy. Like, she looks great. She's walking with con... she looks amazing. I'm over here, like thinking my jeans are too tight," you know. And so I like I really love what you're talking about because it's true. I don't have kids, but like the things that I say even as a trainer for my clients, you know, like, if I can't be positive about my own body and the conversation I have myself, I can't help them stop that conversation in the studio, cannot, you know, so it really does expand. How... And I just had a girl here at my house this weekend and she mentioned that her daughter goes around to saying, "I'm busy." Because like her daughter hears her say the mom says, "I'm busy all the time." (Jenny: Yeah) So the daughter's like, "I'm busy. Can't do that. I'm busy." And so you're right, the kid, our kids do pick up on everything we say. So what how did that, how do you change that though? You're a gym owner, and people expect some sort of like, you know what I mean? Like, this is a struggle that (Jenny: Yeah) I see like, I have clients all the time who come to me who lose weight. And I literally say, "I actually am not a nutritionist, and that's not something I can focus on with you. Here's what I can do." You know, so is that what you did? Or like, how did you have like change the conversation at your gym?Jenny Schatzle 9:11  Yeah, and it was difficult. And I still have people you know, people want to get weighed and people want and it's a huge selling point, it was for us. And so if you want to get in, they want to do measurements, they want to do before and afters. But when you really get into the conversation, and you keep asking, "why." Like, "Why? Why does that why does that matter? Oh, when you get to this point, well who..." The whole part of this conversation is getting to the root of like, where this started and why we think this way, right? So who told you that being 140 pounds was exactly where you're supposed to be? And the weight which you're supposed to live at and be happy at that. So where who and where did we learn that our body wasn't good enough? And we have to become aware of, truly I'm going to be honest. It's not our fault. Like we were not born hating our bodies. And this was a message like you said you saw a woman in this t shirt and she's rocking it, she's got say like. Think about most of us grew up seeing magazine covers showing cellulite rolls, and it says, "Look at the celebrity gone wrong." Like it's, you know, it's all it's all of this information always like cellulite, fat rows, getting bigger. This is the worst thing that can happen to a woman. (Lesley: Yeah) That's the message we received. And so of course, we are think about how much energy and time we spend on a daily basis, worrying about our bodies, what we eat, that's a lot of energy and it's a lot of time. And it's keeping us small, in every single way. And so the problem is, not only are we continuing this conversation we're passing it on. So if we can start to question like, "Why do I have to have a scale that I have to weigh myself every morning to determine if I'm going to have a good or a bad day." Like (Lesley: Yeah) my day, and I've lived with this. So this is my truth. Like, I used to start every day by getting on the scale in the bathroom. And if I was heavy, right gained a couple pounds, that means I'm at the gym, I'm probably going to wear a sweatshirt, maybe I'm going to do two or three classes, like I'm doing everything I can to undo what has just happened. If ...Lesley Logan 11:09  Right. Which could have been like you had pasta the night before, and how ... (Jenny: 100%) Like it could be like you're about to have your period. (Lesley laughs)Jenny Schatzle 11:18  A 100%. The messages we received as women should have been, your body is going to change. (Lesley: Yeah) On it probably for a lot of us on a daily basis. But on a weekly basis, like we are never, we're not the same way all the time. And when we put so much value in this number on the scale. Like think about your funeral. People, if you got to look, if you got to listen in on your funeral, people are not going to sit there and be like, "Wow, she was so thin. I'm really proud of her for losing the body or the baby weight. I'm really, you know, like good for her for not eating sugar and really sticking to that diet." Like those things are not important. Right? (Lesley: Yeah) And here's where it gets a little like, you know, people say, "Oh, you're anti diet, anti diet, diet culture." I don't like to be, "Yes, I am." I don't like to be anti anything, because I think it puts people's walls up. But we have to come from a place of like realizing we've got to redefine what the definition of health is. (Lesley: Yeah) So there's this, there's a line between health and obsession, because obsession is not health. So for me growing up in the name of health, I cut entire food groups out and obsessed about not eating them. I worked out way harder than I probably should have. I actually took me out of living my life, I didn't enjoy eating because I was so obsessed about what I was eating or what I shouldn't be eating or how I was going to make it up or tomorrow I can start cleansing so that I can binge. And it was just this vicious cycle. But in my mind, I was being healthy. (Lesley: Yeah) So I tell people, it's like a good example, for me to be 20 pounds lighter than I am now takes me out of living my life. And (Lesley: Yeah) to me that's not health. So it's people were always looking for like, "Oh yeah, you shouldn't eat like, you shouldn't eat dairy, you should eat carbs." If we all ate the same and worked out the same, we would still have different bodies. (Lesley: Right) So why are we convinced that something that worked for your friend is gonna work for you? But also your friend has a different body. And is that sustainable? Like, yeah, we can all lose weight but is it sustainable? And is it going to keep you enjoying your life? This is where the line of like, what is healthy and what is obsession? We need to we need to clear that up.Lesley Logan 13:31  Yeah, so with like, what are some signs that like, I mean, to you and I it might be a little obvious and maybe some of the listeners would know but like just in case someone doesn't know what obsession looks like? Can you think of some of the clients you've had or even your own experience that like signs of like obsession around? What is healthy even though it like you said it in the name of health we do these obsessive things? What what have those look like for some people?Jenny Schatzle 13:57  So what I like to tell people is truly trying to change the conversation and your mindset about working out. Right? Like, and I know we all see these means like, you know, workout should be for your health and not about food or but it's actually like you always say putting it into action because that's how we get clarity, right. That's how we that's how we go towards our purpose is by doing action. So thinking like, working out and obsession is I have to get X amount of miles, I have to burn X amount of calories. I have to work out for at least 45 minutes, like we need to redefine. I always tell people, you should try to move every day intentionally. And so that needs to change and what that means like for me some days, I've got twins, my husband is a firefighter. He's gone all the time. I own a business like I own a gym, and I can't make it to the gym every day. So for me sometimes that's intentionally going to do 10 minutes of walking around the block, doing a 10 minute YouTube video, stretching like intentionally moving sometimes it's 20 minutes, sometimes it's an hour so not having so much pressure to do X amount, it's like, "Oh, yeah, I'm going to move for 10 minutes because one, this is all I have today. And two, this is going to change my energy, my attitude and my mood." So (Lesley: Yeah) people always ask, "How do you find joy in movement?" It's when you stop using it as a weight loss tool. And how your cha... body changes is just what's going to happen. But don't make that the focus because when we change the conversation about working out, it's like, "Oh, yeah, I'm going to do this, because I'm actually feeling very stuck, paralyzed, crabby, I'm yelling at my kids." When you physically move your body, you physically move your thoughts and your energy and your mind. So when you start moving for the right reasons, it becomes enjoyable and you want to do it.Lesley Logan 15:42  You are 100% correct. Like I talked a lot about how habits are built, and because our habits just become our routines. And I studied with BJ Fogg. So it's like, you're not you're ditching the 21 days, it's actually all about emotion. And so it's like you just said, the joy in movement. If you're wanting to make intentional movement, something that is easier to do, you actually have to bring positive emotions around the thing. Because when you bring shame, of course, you don't want to move. Of course, your brain is like, "That doesn't make me feel good. Why would I remember to do that?" And I am, so I really love that you said and I also, I love that you're honest about like, the 10 minutes, because sometimes that's all I can do. When we had 25 women here, every morning, I couldn't do my normal routine, which I do for me, it makes me feel really good. And some days it changes. Some days, it's breath work with a walk. Some days, it's a run, and I get to actually get my studio. But um, but all I did was like all I have is 10 minutes, I'm gonna run the dog around the block. So we're gonna maximize our 10 minutes, and we're gonna get those dopamine up and I can walk in with a smile on my face. And it is true we have I really think like, for me, the moment I stopped going, I had to my my Pilates session has to be 55 minutes because the gym says all workouts are 55 minutes. And I'm like, "I think they did that for payroll. I'm pretty sure there's no science behind the hour long workout." (Lesley laughs)Jenny Schatzle 17:03  There's no science ... There's no science around a lot of things like I'm just gonna interupt right there, (Lesley: Yeah) like the BMI, right? Actually, a lot of things that are happening and coming out now, even going to the doctor for a lot of women is very, it's it's scary. It's, you know, a lot of my body stuff started when I was 10 years old. And I went to the doctor and he said, "Look at this chart on the wall, and according to your height and your weight, you are fat on the borderline of obese." And I was just like a kid growing, going through my stuff like I was in no, but it was at that moment. I learned. "Oh, yeah. Okay, stop. Oh, wait, this is this is bad." Like being fat is bad. This is not healthy. This is and I was not an obese child. I was, you know, again, going through it what every girl, boy does. And then it's at that point, I started seeing the magazines, then noticing, "Oh, my family. Oh, my mom's eating SnackWell cook. And this whole like kind of diet? Oh, your body is not good. This is not where you're supposed to be." And you know, when we're talking about changing the conversation on movement that also goes into food, like what are we obsessing about? Right? So when just like you said, I mean, you're a Pilates instructor and can't always like this, people need to remember even these people that are telling you what to do, or we're living this too. Right? And for a lot of us that grew up in the fitness industry. This was just what you were supposed to do. You know, X amount this is these are all the lessons I learned. And this is how you're supposed to eat. And so changing the conversation of really realizing how we talk about food is so important. It's like labeling food, good and bad. That's we need to really discourage people to do that. Like that's not a thing. We shouldn't be doing that anymore. Because you just said with a shame around working out like, "Oh, I didn't get this in, or oh, I should have done that." Shame and guilt is one of the biggest thing that keeps us in our toxic food cycles. So when we eat something, it's not the donut. It's actually the guilt and shame you have around that donut, that's probably going to make you eat five more and then think, "Okay, I just binge. Now I'm going to get back on it." Where if you just had a doughnut and moved on, but it's not that simple. Because we have to go back and heal this relationship that we have with food in our body in order to move forward from it like, "Oh, yeah, this started very young. This started when my mom either told me my belly was big, or I saw her tell herself, her thighs were big." So I always believe our parents did the best they could with what they knew. But a lot of us grew up watching our mom, disliking her body or commenting on our body or commenting on other people's bodies. And that's where internally we got this message that, "Oh yeah, a thin body is the right body. A thin body is the body you're supposed to have and a thin body is successful." I'm going to tell you, when I was at my thinnest, I was mentally my most miserable. (Lesley: Yeah) And again, that is in health. So the food thing is such a it's it's so hard to because it's everywhere.Right? (Jenny: Right. But we ...) And we need to sustain life like you have to actually.And you needed to sustain life. Like I'm nine years sober. I don't need alcohol to sustain life. Right? And so I quit drinking, because I got to my breaking point. And that's a whole other podcast. But we I quit drinking and then it was my actually, my food and body stuff really came up. That's when I was like, "Oh, here we go. This is another thing because I didn't have alcohol to numb me out any more than I had food (Lesley: Yeah) than I had working out." So it's all they're all connected, whether it's alcohol, food, shopping, people pleasing, pill popping, it's (Lesley: Yeah) all a way to numb out.Lesley Logan 20:38  Yeah, I just (Jenny: And so ...) wanted I heard the other day someone bring up like a way of control as people pleasing. And I never thought about that way. So those of you didn't hear that, you have to hear that, like it's a that kind of thing. It's all it's all mixed up in there. And we have and people pleasing is also, I think, a lot of reasons why people are still trying to be a certain size, because they think people will like them. They'll get things like that they want done. And I have to say like most of the people that I admire, respect and learn from are not obsessing about food. (Lesley laughs) They're not, they're just not because they don't have the time. I don't know, they don't have the time to think about that.Jenny Schatzle 21:15  Yeah, and you know, truly it is, again, a lot of this. I can I can speak on this, because this was my life. And a lot of a lot of this, it may sound harsh, and it may be like, "Yeah, that's great but how do you get there?" You have to first realize that, honestly, it's not your fault. Like, (Lesley: Yeah) a lot of the issues we have with food in our bodies are what we grew up. It's what we learned watching, is what we were told it's what, it might not have been our parents, it might have been a kid on a playground like, and it's just stuck with us. But we have to really internalize like, we have to question that, "Who said that? You know, why why am I allowing them to tell me, this is the way I should look, this is the way." And so changing the conversation around food when you're talking about control, like dieting is a control. So when we feel we all have bad body days. Like, "I am completely on this." Like, "I don't diet anymore. I still have bad body days." And then when that happens, I immediately think because it's so ingrained, like, "Oh, maybe I maybe I should juice. Maybe I shouldn't eat that." And it's like, "Oh, yeah, wait a minute. That's what's ingrained in me. That's not who I want to be anymore." So I can hear that thought but I don't have to follow that thought. And so I get to say like, "Oh, yeah, that's old programming." And I'm going to just I need to sit in this that I'm, I'm feeling vague. today. I'm having an off day, I'm okay. What can I do? I could go walk. I could journal I could, you know, dieting is the first thing we go to when we're having a bad body image. Because it's a way we can control things. But it's also like when your life feels out of control when your kids when your relationship, we go to food because we don't want to look at all that other stuff. And so it's a really, it's a way for us, like I get back on track. I can control this, but we know, one, it's not sustainable. Cutting out entire food groups, in any kind of restriction leads to binging period. (Lesley: Yeah) And that is where also that obsession comes in. It's like if I tell you you can't have carbohydrates. Yeah, it might last, you know, I don't know, a few days, a few weeks. I don't know how to bake it yet. But it's, you know, it doesn't last we all do like, you know, if you're on a 21 days, or 30 days of something, what happens on day 31?Lesley Logan 23:21  Right? You just go party. (Lesley laughs)Jenny Schatzle 23:23  You just go party! Like literally, I was with a group of women. And this woman said, "Oh, we just did a clean eating challenge." First of all, food isn't dirty. Like we even that it's just these little things that we learn that's like, "Oh, yeah, like, when we labeled food clean, I'm gonna clean, I'm eating clean." It's good or bad, we're actually giving the power to food. (Lesley: Yeah) So it's up to us to take that back. Like, food is not in charge of my life. We and for so long food was in charge of my life. And that that's not what we should be living. So taking your power back by it's, it's not good or bad. It's just food. (Lesley: Totally) Right? So and we just, it's just food and like, yeah, you're gonna eat bread, you're gonna eat dessert. But when we give it the power is when the guilt and the shame come up. But I was just with a group of women. And the woman said, "Oh, we just did this 30 day clean, I feel great." And then her friend goes, "Oh, what do you do when it was over? And you go eat a burger and get drunk?" And it's like, "Oh, do you guys hear that?" Right? And it's not a judgement, but it's just like, "Oh, did you hear what you just said?" But again, that's how we lived for so long. So a huge part of changing the conversation is becoming aware of the conversation. And I think, you know, we've hit working out, we've hit food, but it's also like, how are we talking about those things not only with ourselves, but with our friends?Lesley Logan 24:37  Yep. Yeah, that's, that's really important. I think like you said awareness and I think that's exactly where people can start. Right? Like, if you're if once you become aware that you're having those thoughts that you're using it as control or you're you're labeling it. We have Lena Franklin on, she's amazing. She said she was doing this whole thing and she's like, "First become aware and then you become enlightened." And then I was like, "I'm so sorry, can you tell what enlightenment is? Because I don't have time to sit on a hill in India and meditate for my for a week." So she's like, she said, "Oh, no, once you're aware, you are, in fact enlightened." And I was like, "Oh, well, then I can get enlightened all day long. I can be aware all day long." And so I think that's like, you know, you said journaling. And I think a lot of times we you're right, we do want to, we don't want to actually deal with ourselves when actually, like, want to become aware of the thoughts, because then we have to actually do something about it. But journaling is a one way to just like, it's a very easy way to just like put the thoughts out, I do morning pages, and you don't have to read them, you can actually just write them and never read them again. And so I think even just like getting those things out, it allows the change to start happening because you're aware of the conversation in your own head.Jenny Schatzle 25:50  Part of that, like, I'm huge, you know, from my Instagram, I'm huge on journaling. I'm huge on like, five minutes, same thing. I do every morning. I don't read them, I you can do whatever you want with your notebooks. But here's also with women. Whenever I post about journaling, people always message and ask, "Well, what should I write about? How should I do it? Wait, where do you put your..." Like, it's the perfection like, (Lesley: Yeah) we all the you know, you talk a lot about this, it's action is what creates clarity. But for us, we paralyze, we are paralyzed, and we stop ourselves because we all want to do it right. And these are the rules have been following our whole lives. Like, you've got to eat this way, you have to work out this way. You have to here's your journal topic with your perfect punctuation. Like, when I write, there's no grammar. Sometimes you can't even read the ending. Like, it's literally, but we have to also get the point, get through the point of just doing it, like stop trying to do everything right. Just do it, just move, any movement is good movement, journaling is movement. Right? Like and that's about changing the conversation of stopping yourself and thinking, "What is the next thing I can do? That's going to help me move forward." So I love when you said, you know, it's awareness and enlightenment, I love that. So my I guess you could put my enlightenment is, and I just said it a couple minutes ago is, so you have awareness around this. Like, for instance, I always say this, too. This is sounds harsh, but when we judge other people's bodies, and we all know this, when we judge other people, you know, it's our own stuff. But only people with body issues, judge other people's bodies. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) And that's just true. And so as somebody who has body issues, I can say that. And so when you're judging somebody else, whether it's their body, whether it's what they're wearing, whether it's what they're doing, because these things come up, we are humans, and we are going to judge, right. If somebody says, "Well, I don't judge." Yes, okay, this is what we do. But the enlightenment part is having awareness of all that thought comes up, and then stopping yourself and saying, because the first thought we, the first thought we think, is what has been ingrained in us. The second is who we want to be. So I catch myself when I'm judging someone else, or when I'm harshly judging myself. And I think, "Oh, there's that voice." And then I think, "Oh, yeah, that is not who I want to be. Like why is it my business? Why do I care what she's wearing? Why do I care what her buy? Oh, that's my stuff." Okay, move on. And so, like not getting guilt and shame around us judging other people or judging ourselves, but stopping ourselves instead and remind me, "Oh, yeah, that's old programming. That's not who I want to be. And that's not what I want to pass on to not only my children, but the other women around me," which is such a huge part of this. So again, I was a great example. I was with a woman this weekend. And this woman was she was randomly talking about her peloton and she loves it. And she's, like, "So good at it." And so she said, "I was talking to my friend, and my friend said, I don't think your bike is calibrated, right? Because you are like, you know, so good." And she goes, Well, "I'm, I'm a big lady. Like, I'm ..." And she's telling me this, and she uses the word "big." And I thought she was gonna say it's because she's so strong, right? And (Lesley: Right) she has it. She goes, "What I was telling her I was, I'm just a big lady. I'm just way bigger than you." And then wait, I didn't say anything. And we kind of continue the conversation. And then she, we started talking about like, things that people said to us when young, when we were younger, and she goes, "Yeah, you know, a lot of my body stuffs, ten stems from being called big." And so I stopped and I said, "Do you realize that when you were telling me the story about you on the Peloton, you kept saying you're a big woman." And she did not even realize she was calling herself big. (Lesley: Yeah) And I said, "I, I thought you were going to stay strong." So another part of this and I talked about this in my, my TED Talk is, and she brought this up. A lot of times we say things because we think people are thinking it about us. Right? So like if we've gained weight and we're going to be around friends and we're we're like afraid that they're gonna think we've gained weight. We might say it before anybody else does. (Lesley: Right) Because this to let them know, we know. Right? (Lesley: Yeah) She said that. She's like, "Well, I am a big woman and I know people think that about me. And so I want them to know that I know I'm big." And I stopped her right there. And I said, "When you were telling that story, I thought you were gonna say strong, because in my eyes, your strong ass woman, and so yeah, you probably do put in whatever you're doing." And she's like, "Oh." I said, "You said, 'they', I wasn't thinking that." (Lesley: Yeah) And so we, we, we already put in our minds what other people are thinking about our bodies. Which one, they might not be (Lesley: Right) and two, who cares if they are? Like, why are we, why are we living our lives based on what other people think of our bodies, and most of the time, those people aren't happy in their bodies.Lesley Logan 30:39  Right. And so we're all just like wandering around trying to make other people happy about our bodies, and they're so focused on their own unhappiness with their body, they're not even paying attention to you. (Lesley laughs) It is, (Jenny: Yes) it is like it is this in... And all of this is keeping us from doing anything that is actually purposeful on this planet, like we are (Jenny: Yeah) all here to do something like we wouldn't be made if we didn't have something to add to the, to the universe and to what's going on. And I just it's really frustrating. I love that you pointed out it was much earlier in the conversation we've had other people bring this up that we you know, we outsource the good and bad days, we outsource our worth when we get on a scale. And like the, the truth is, is that like, you can't like, it's like how do you, how can you like, actually tackle these amazing things that you want to do in life? And then you're like, "I'm gonna get on scale. I'm having a bad day. Can't do those things now." It's like so crazy to me. And if it hurts me and I and the perfectionist thing with the journaling, okay, so full disclosure, I was that girl with my therapist, April, March in March 2020. She's like, "You need a journal." I was like, "No problem. I got journals." So we come back the next thing I said, "Okay, so I'm so sorry." Is there like a prompt I'm supposed to be answering like, "What am I supposed to write? What like, what, what am I supposed to be writing on this page? Like, what do I do here?" And she's like, "Okay, you don't need to read the book Artist's Way because I'm just full permission guilt, just be a perfectionist about it. So just go write three pages and don't read them." And I was like, "Okay, so I have ..." And I, it's so funny because I'll you know, like, attracts like, so the person that I am the recovering perfectionist and overachiever, I attract all these people. And they're like, "Okay, so how do I journal?" And so I laugh because I'm like, "Yep, I know." It's like this thing we all want to be right. And we want to have the right body, which, who knows what that is. (Jenny: Yeah) And, and we want to journal correctly. And it's like, just write something and you don't have to be able to reread it. Like, people are like, "Oh, I saved my journal. So I can read them someday." And I'm like, "Really?" I don't think so. I think I just, it's okay. (Jenny: Yeah) It's gonna be fine if I don't remember what I wrote down last year. (Lesley laughs)Jenny Schatzle 32:42  I like to say too, um, because yeah, it's an if you like to keep a memory of it. Do it. If you don't, don't. And it's, it's truly like, the journaling part is truly about literally, I always say, like, throw up all your words on paper, like, release all the thoughts in your brain out. Like, it could be positive negative credit, like, just, it's a way to just release. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) And yeah, but again, it's control. And this is what (Lesley: Yeah) we do as women.Lesley Logan 33:08  Yeah. And, uh, you know, in, but like, it's like a really great way to have this awesome conversation. If you're really trying to get aware of your thoughts. It is crazy if you just dream, right? If you just read it out. I, I was like, "Oh, I'm afraid of bah, bah, bah." I didn't even know that. Like, it wasn't even I mean, I'm obviously new it is in my brain, but like, I didn't actually have that awareness around it. So it is really, it is a really amazing thing. I wanted to talk about you have two TED Talks. So first of all, like, that's frickin amazing. And what, where they can find them on the TED, YouTube? Or I'll put them in the show notes. But like, are they out and about people can rewatch them?Jenny Schatzle 33:45  They are. Yes. Yeah. You just like Google, Jenny Schatzle TED Talk, and they both come up. And so yeah, it was it... Yes. And it's kind of all talking about this, and just changing the conversation. And so, you know, my, my whole purpose is just to help women feel good about themselves, (Lesley: Mm-hmm) and show up as their authentic self. Because when we do, we give permission to other women. And so it's like you so people always say, you know, I love to, your very, like, let's put this in action, because I'm also like, I am in the self help space. I am also an advocate of there's only so many books and and I like I read also, I go to the retreats, I do I continue to do the work because we all have to, but at some point, you do have to put it in action. And I met people they just continually like we've got to do and I'm all about easy, actionable things we can do every single day. And one of those things is show up in our authentic... as our authentic self, because it gives other people permission. And so let's start with like, okay, working out and what we wear so trying to heal our body. And again, I say all this stuff. It's it's a really hard process. You know, it's like, you don't just wake up one day and you're like, "I don't diet anymore and I frickin love my body. And my kids are gonna never have issues." Like, no. Alright, let's just start there. And so it's a daily process of unlearning. I like to say we need to learn and relearn. So you have to start questioning, like, "Who did teach me how to hate my body? Why do I feel so uncomfortable in my body? Where did I learn this? What is the messaging that I want to change for myself, so I do not pass this on." (Lesley: Yeah) So one thing is we have to start by, and I truly believe wearing the clothes that we never thought we could. So for years, I didn't wear shorts. And I didn't wear tube tops. Because the two things in my life, my dad always told me, I was built like a linebacker. So I have really broad shoulders and very strong legs. And but for years, I hated my shoulders, I hated my legs. And I never wore shorts. So it's like, even if you have to start wearing them around the house. (Lesley: Yeah) Right? If you don't want to wear a swimsuit, outside, start wearing it in your house. We have to start putting on the things that we told ourselves for so long, we couldn't wear. And even if it's got to start in your house, every time I feel slightly uncomfortable, I'm going to be honest, it's really empowering. I have to have that conversation with myself. Like, if I'm going to wear shorts, or you know, something that shows my stomach. And I'm like, "You know what, I'm going out into the world to show other women how to show up as themselves because I'm showing up as myself." (Lesley: Yeah) And that's where it needs like, I'm not showing up to look good for anybody else. This is empowering to me, because I need to show up as my authentic self and and love what I have. Because for a long time, I'm going to be honest, most of my life I didn't. (Lesley: Yeah) And the proof that when we look back, like I think we can all relate to this, we look back at pictures and think, "Oh my God, like I was so thin, or I was so this. And I didn't even realize that." Lesley Logan 36:51  Oh, totally. (Jenny: That's ...) That's crazy. I mean that's ... (Jenny: That's proof ...) That we weren't ... (Jenny: I'm sorry) but ... I'm so sorry. That you were not gonna be happy when you're leaner.Jenny Schatzle 37:00  Yes, well, that's just proof right there. That is, so when we look back at pictures of ourselves and think, "Oh, my God, it was so thin or I was so fat, or I was so this." I didn't even realize that's proof, it's not about the body. (Lesley: Right) That's it right there. (Lesley: Yeah) So that's, you know, that's one place to start.Lesley Logan 37:18  Well, I love your honesty there. And it's true. Like I you know, Facebook is really good at showing me pictures of 10 years ago, and I suffered from some crazy stomach like really bad, like, anytime I ate, I just was in pain, and no one could figure it out. (Jenny: Oh) But what ended up happening is I got thinner, right? Because when you, when you're barely eating, so your stomach doesn't hurt, you get thinner. And words of affirmation is my love language. So all of a sudden, I'm getting tons of compliments (Jenny: Yeah) because I lived in LA and I was at a high end gym. And so then people are coming to work out with me because like, "Oh, I want to look like you." And I'm like, "So I just want you to know like, I barely get to eat anything like this is not healthy." And but of course that gets in your head because then as soon as my stomach started feel better, I started to gain weight. Why? Because I'm eating nutrition like I'm absorbing food and getting calories in and the thoughts that went through my head were so ridiculous. The conversation I had like, "Oh my God, my clients are gonna leave me because I've gained 10 pounds." (Jenny: Yeah) Never mind that I'm not anorexic looking anymore. And that's probably looks better. So when I look at those pictures that come up, I'm like, "This is so sad. This is what so many people gave me compliments on, "This girl looks exhausted. She looks tired. She doesn't she looks weak, doesn't even look strong, you know." And like it was it was such an interesting turn of events of my life like I've had to because I build the more my stomach feels better, the more weight of gain, I actually really do like how I look, it is very different than I ever thought, it is a very different body than I ever had. But it's true. I wear crop tops now. I didn't wear them when I was 118 pounds. (Lesley laughs) I didn't (Jenny: Yeah) wear them. I was like, "Oh my God, I'm not like there's all like a role here." Like, no, I wear them now. And I'm like, "Whatever, it doesn't even matter." But I am I film videos and workout videos for a living. And when you do flexion things just roll over. And for whatever reason, it took me a long conversation myself, like you're just going to have the roll over your pants, and it's just going to show and people are going to be fine with it. And actually, it is one of the best fucking things that could ever happen because people feel safe in my thing. I had to have a conversation myself, I had to get over it. And some days I bad body days too. And I'm like, "wow, that's not what I thought that looked like." But but the truth (Jenny: Yeah) is, is that for most people, they're like, "Oh, thanks for showing a real body doing movement."Jenny Schatzle 39:34  And this conversation is changing, you know, and I want to acknowledge that both of us are in, you know, privileged and according to you know, the world privileged (Jenny: Yeah) leaner bodies. And (Lesley: Yeah) but I think no matter what size, keep women are struggling and (Lesley: Yeah) so in this conversation is changing. And so it's also up to us to change that conversation. So even as I say this but I mean it in the most loving way is like, we kind of kind of got to call each other out, but in a loving way, like not being mean, like, "Oh, you should say that" because that's I don't really that's how we learn. But really commenting on other people's bodies is really dangerous. You just said that. And it's, I mean, I have two little girls. Are you kidding? Of course, I'm gonna be like, "You're so cute. You're so be cute. Oh, my God." Like, I'm trying to even you know, change that conversation. And it's funny, like Gloria Simon says, you know, the truth will set you free, but first it's gonna piss you off. And even in the beginning, I'm like, "Ah, now I can't say people cute, like, what can I say?" But if you really think about it, when we compliment people on their bodies, I had the same situation with a friend, she had cancer and lost 30 pounds. And she came up to me and said, "I can't believe how many people tell me, I look great. I have cancer. Like, that's why I lost the weight." And the other thing to that is when we compliment our friends on their bodies, especially when we make such a huge deal, like, "Oh, my God, what are you doing? Oh, my God, you look so amazing." A lot of times that change isn't sustainable. Because change, a body change takes a long time for it to, you know, to sustain. And if you lose a lot of weight, very quickly, it's not sustainable. So one, you're getting all this praise for looking so good, which a lot of time it's taking you out of your life to make this happen. But chances are, you're gonna gain that weight back. And when you do as the person who was complimented now the stories in your head about next time, you have to go out and see your friends. And if you've put on any weight, you are finding anything to wear, you're depressed, you're sad, you're frustrated, you're all up in your head, because all you're thinking is, "I put on weight. Now they're gonna see me differently there." And so, taking that just like when you see your friends, instead of commenting on their body, even if they've lost weight, start by being like, "You know what, I really love being around you. You know what? Your energy is radiant today. You know what that outfit is powerful." Like just like really authentic things that we mean instead of making it like telling somebody talk about words of affirmation, telling somebody that you missed them and love them and are just in happiness to be around them. That's a better compliment than "Man, you look thin."Lesley Logan 42:13  Yeah, that is, oh my gosh, Jenny, I could talk to you for hours. I really want to but (Lesley laughs) but (Jenny: I feel the same way. I love you so much.) I know. Okay, where can they find you, follow you, watch your reels, your lives? I'm not gonna lie. You're one with the covered about the women with the filters and the makeup. I watched that three times and showed my husband and and the one with your with your girls were like they had put markers on their face. I was like ... (Jenny: Oh, that was a good one.) That was amazing on (Jenny: That was a good one.) photo day. (Jenny: Yeah) Like, you know what? This woman is walking the truth right here. So where can, where can they hang out with you, find you and all the things?Jenny Schatzle 42:50  I love it. I'm on Instagram and Facebook, I'll be on and YouTube. But I will be honest, I'm mostly on Instagram. I have like dipped my toe in Tik Tok but I'm also 42 and I'm like, you know, there's only so much social media I can do. So come to Instagram. And I you know, it is authentically me. I very much posting about real and raw. It's a lot of mom life. It's a lot of conversations around body image, but also confidence within women and movement. So I would love for everyone to join me over there. And I do answer my messages. So message me, message me any questions, or (Lesley: Yeah) anything that you want to talk about.Lesley Logan 43:25  And it's just @jennyschatzle on Instagram, right? Just... (Jenny: Yes) Yeah. (Jenny: Yeah. Thank you.) Alright, so bold, executable, targeted or intrinsic. You gave us so many. If you were listening, I got you can, you know, go to our show notes. And you can literally highlight half of there's like a ton of BE IT once. But what are a few, what are a few that you have that people could do to change the conversation with themselves so that they can actually like do their frickin life?Jenny Schatzle 43:50  I love it. All right, my easy, actionable takeaways. So many things. All right. So we did talk a lot about this, but I'm going to add one more. So one, I would love for everyone to really start changing the conversation around food and themselves. So having the awareness of when it comes up, of when you want to call yourself fat or big or need to get back on it or change that conversation. Be a little gentler with yourself and just realize that that conversation isn't helping you. Second, the food thing, just really realizing how much you label food, good or bad, healthy, not healthy. You know, clean eating. I mean dirty eating is I want to like not even a thing. Just really try to I'm gonna and this is really hard. Kind to stop talking about food too much. And this is again going to sound harsh, but we are smart, strong, powerful women. We should not be sitting around talking about how much we ate and how much we hate our bodies. We want to see that the table. We've got to change the conversation, pull up the chair and make our presence known and we have more important things to talk about than the burrito, and that our pants don't fit. And so when we change that conversation, we take our power back. And not only do we take our power back, we show other women how to do it. And that's the conversation and the cycle we pass on. So in order to break the cycle, we have to be aware of what we're saying, not blame ourselves for it, but choose a different path. So when that awareness comes up, you can decide, "Am I going to continue that conversation? Or am I going to start a new one?" And our last thing is, I am going to invite our friends to journal, without, I call it free writing, you know, you call it more morning pages, whatever we want to call it, but there's no grammar, there's no time, you could literally write one page and walk away from it. Um, and along with that is kind of talking about changing the conversation. Give that voice in your head, I think I say this pretty much on every podcast. But this is also how we realize when old programming is coming up. Do me a favor and give that negative voice in your head a name. And so you make it like a almost like a person. So when that voice for me comes up, that's like, "Oh, Jenny, you know, you're getting, your thighs are looking big. And you probably shouldn't wear those shorts. And maybe you should cut back on the food." And I'm like, "Oh, not today, Tiffany. Not today." Alright, so I give ... and I'm like, "Tiffany, wo... No, I, yeah, I hear you." And I want to remind people, I don't think that I don't think that negative self. And that negative talk ever 100% goes away. But the stronger you get in your healthy self and your healthy voice, that voice gets louder, and it's able to recognize Tiffany and be like, "Oh, yeah, Tiffany, I hear you. That's not what we're choosing today." And so name that voice, and be able to clarify that Tiffany is not Jenny in 2022.Lesley Logan 46:59  Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I fucking love you so much, Jenny. (Jenny laughs) (Jenny: I love you too.) Yeah, I love you. So everyone how, you got to tell us how you're going to use these tips in your life. You're going to tell us who you named your your voice in your head that is giving you all that old programming by screenshotting this podcast, tagging @jennyschatzle and the @be_it_pod on Instagram and let us know. Alright, until next time, Be It Till You See It.That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others BE IT TILL YOU SEE IT. Have an awesome day!'Be It Till You See It' is a production of 'As The Crows Fly Media'.Brad Crowell 47:59  It's written produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. 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Is your ego holding you back? Is the illusion of safety keeping you in burnout? In today's episode LL and Brad discuss how acknowledging, accepting, and creating an alternative action can transform your life in more ways than one. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe. In this episode you will learn about:- How to overcome burnout - Pain, suffering, and ego - The BEING method - The three A's: Acknowledge, Accept, Alternative Action Episode References/Links:Profitable Pilates retreats: https://retreats.profitablepilates.com/lp-irl-retreat-waitlistLL FREE WEBINAR: https://resources.profitablepilates.com/lp-ditching-busy  OPC Flashcards:OPC Flashcards are on AmazonOPC Flashcards are on our site  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.  ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Social MediaInstagramFacebookTik TokLinkedIn Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:01  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co host in life, Brad and I are going to dig into the captivating convo I have with Lena Franklin in our last episode. If you haven't listened to that episode, that interview, feel free to pause this now and then travel back in time to listen to that one. Or listen (Brad: back in time) to this one first... Yeah, well, you know, it's it is sort of. It happened already. Or listen to this one and then go listen to that one. I think you have to listen that one anyways. But you know, you're already on this one. So do it backwards. It's all good. I, we are, y'all we're in the middle of the Full Body in 15. And it is so, so fun. It's it's just amazing to help people feel Pilates in their body in a really unique way. I think a lot of people just assume that Pilates is an ab exercise only or just for women or just for dancers or just for flexible people. And what's been really fun is watching super strong people, super athletic people, like actually realize that they're missing strength in awesome places and also people who are just trusting themselves to work out for the first time. So I'm having a good time.Brad Crowell 1:52  We're having a good time.Lesley Logan 1:53  We're having a good time. And that's an inside joke for Brad and I, if you didn't get that. Don't worry about it. (Brad laughs) Speaking of inside, we're literally days away from our business retreaters showing up at our house. Brad Crowell 2:09  Yeah, Profitable Pilates. Our first retreat for Profitable Pilates. (Lesley: Yeah) And it happens to be here with us in Vegas.Lesley Logan 2:17  Yeah, yep, yep. So anyways, it sold out so fast. If you had never heard about it. (Lesley laughs) Well, you're not alone. It just happened really quickly. And we are so excited because we have people from all over the world showing up. And we have like four and a half days of workshops and self care, and photo shoots. And I'm just, I'm excited because also our teammates, our team members are coming in, two of them. So we actually get to work with our peeps.Brad Crowell 2:44  Yeah. (Lesley: in person) It's really exciting. It, it definitely was like hardly, I feel like we hardly announced it and it filled up so fast. And I'm going to tell you a secret.Lesley Logan 3:00  Oh. Do I know the secret?Brad Crowell 3:02  Yeah, you might. (Lesley: Okay) Well, here's the deal. We would love for you to come and dig into your business for five days and four nights... Four days and three nights? (Lesley: Yeah) Four days. (Lesley: If they arrive on a Wednesday.) They leave on Sunday. (Lesley: They leave on a Sunday.) Yeah. (Lesley: Yeah) Anyway, we would love for you to come join us and dig into your business. We are going to be running another one, later this year. (Lesley: Oh I did. We already talked about this.) Yeah. (Lesley: Yeah, I'm so excited.) And you can get on the waitlist by going to profitablepilates.com/retreats. But keep in mind, I think that we're going to open the doors, like the first week of March to get your deposits in for the next retreat. (Lesley: Well....) So mark your calendar now. That was the secret. The secret is that nobody knows this. But we're opening the doors.Lesley Logan 3:53  I didn't know that either. (Brad laughs) So, oh my goodness. All right, well get on the waitlist because the waitlist people will have first access to to sign up. So anyways. Alright, before we get into our recap with Lena, what is our audience question?Brad Crowell 4:08  Okay, this was a really, this was a really heartfelt question from someone who joined us in Agency Mini recently. And then also from some of our Agency members, where we coach people on their fitness businesses. And the question was, "How do you avoid burnout? Or what do you do, if you already are in burnout?"Lesley Logan 4:35  Yeah, so this is, I think this is a really important question. And I also do think that you may need to change this as you go through life because your needs are going to change. So what worked for you before might not work for you now? And it's just really important to ask yourself like, "How do I want to feel right now?" And then it's a little easier to work backwards and the other thing I would say is, if you're in burnout currently, I need you to actually, like you actually, they actually have to stop like, "Stop." You cannot even scale back, you have to do a hard stop, which is going to be scary and hard. But you're going to have to like, just call up all your peeps for the next 48 hours and say, "I'm so sorry, I'll be back on this date." Don't even like reschedule, nothing, it'd be really awesome if you could do this on a mass email, if you had a newsletter. But anyway, what I want you to do is find a way to quickly put the pause on everything. I need you to do things that actually make you feel good. Take a nap, right? Take a long bath, go to a spa. Like really, you need to just pour into yourself, eat all of your favorite foods, like take some time. And I need you then to look back and think about when was the last time you didn't feel like you were in burnout? Go all the way back. And then you actually have to figure out like, what were the red flags that you ignored? That is advice I got for my therapist regarding dating, and it helps with burnout as well. (Brad: Hmm) And then, and then you'll actually have those signs and you tell the people who are around you, the people who are near and dear to you. These are the red flags that I'm in burnout. (Brad: Hmm) And that way, you can start to spot them as they come up. Now you have to choose to ignore them or see them as a sign. But that you know, that's a different question that might require some actual therapy on that to figure out like, why you keep ignoring the red flags, when you see them. But that's what I would say to avoid to when you're in burnout, you do a hard stop, which is very scary and might even sound really privileged. You might be like, "Lesley, I need the money." And I'm going to tell you, you need to be alive. (Brad: Yeah) And burnout is like, I'm not being dramatic here. Burnout is real, it's stress and 99% of all illnesses, cancers or diseases are all from stress. So we need to put the pot. As far as ...Brad Crowell 6:54  Yeah, also, I mean, burnout, burnout is like a, you know, it's a precursor to a panic attack that can land you in the hospital. (Lesley: Right) You know, like, it's, this isn't just like, "Oh, I'm mentally drained." You know, so if, you know, you're, like, completely fried. Like, I think we were talking about this in our, in our last recap, (Lesley: Mm-hmm) you know, effectively, we're talking about overwhelm. (Lesley: Yeah) And with overwhelm, we were talking about how it's a, it's kind of a, it's a learned behavior, and we assume that like, we should be, we assume that we should be maintaining the consistency of like, you know, our current, like, effective. Like, I'm going to, I'm going to start, I'm going to start the whole thought back over, because I'm going down this weird road, when we kick it into fifth gear to get through the shit. You can't stay in fifth gear forever. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) Okay, that's like, it's that starts the burnout process, but the overwhelm processes when you're in fifth gear, and you're like, "I'm losing it, I'm not going to be able to manage all the things I just feel like, aahhh. And I've never had the chance to, like, sit down with myself and I barely get the breakfast." And you know, and, you know, the reality is we, it's a learned behavior, (Lesley: Yeah) we put ourselves back into this situa... situation, because the other side of overwhelm is busyness and busyness feels productive. Busyness feels like we're making progress and moving it forward, and we're doing the thing, whatever the thing is... (Lesley: Might not be able moving anything forward.) Right. And and, and, you know, we talk about this all the time with our coaching clients, it might be that you know, you're working in your business instead of working on your business. And what I mean by that is working in your business could be scheduling your clients and, you know, reorganizing your desk and like getting through your emails and all the things that you have to do anyway. (Lesley: Right) You're not necessarily moving your business (Lesley: Well...) forward, you know, working on it.Lesley Logan 8:54  All those things first, feel safe. (Brad: Yeah ...) And safety doesn't actually mean you won't burnout. In fact, they have done studies that your comfort zone actually gets smaller over time. So what what actually was in your comfort zone a year ago, because technology, things advance, your comfort zone actually gets smaller. So as far as how do you avoid the burnout? You have to have to be filling your cup first. (Brad: Yeah) If you're filling your cup first, you are not going to, to actually get to a place of bur... of a burnout where you have to do... a whole stop. You can do some little pauses or slow downs. You can reevaluate, reassess, correct and continue. But like avoiding, like the best way to avoid burnout is just make sure that like your priorities, your values, you (Brad: Yeah) are in your schedule first. So, I I feel for anyone who's in it, I've been there. Well it will happen because again, what leads you to bur... like, how you recover from burnout and stuff, that that can change over time is what your needs are. But if you are filling your cup first and you're constantly asking yourself, like, "How can I like make sure that like, my cup is full?" You'll, you'll do some a lot of adjusting along the way and you don't, burnout doesn't have to be part of your life. Like, just because other people are in burnout doesn't mean like you have to get there to be part of society. In fact, I think society better if we all could avoid it in the first place.Brad Crowell 10:14  I was just talking to someone who moved to Paris, and she said, "The French have a completely different perspective than Americans (Lesley: Yeah) about work." And she's like, "Nobody works on the weekends here." People people like ...Lesley Logan 10:28  You know it's actually, like, if you're like, emailing outside of work hours, it's a little weird.Brad Crowell 10:33  Right. Like, people clock out, and they're done for the day. And you know, you know, especially with COVID, and working from home and all the things like, I mean, I feel like I work 24/7 now, you know, and that's... (Lesley: It's so easy we can do it.) Yeah. And also, there's no break between, I was just listening to another pod talk about this, where, you know, before we at least had our commute, where we used to bitch and moan about our commute, but it was a breather between, you know, get up and flurry around in the morning. And then you have like 30 minutes, or whatever your (Lesley: Yeah) commute is to get to the office and you can think and you're generally alone, or whatever, and then you then you hit the office and then on the way home, you have this another pause. And we don't have that anymore, because our commute is, (Brad laughs) I got up, I went to the kitchen and then I went to my (Lesley: We do...) my desk.Lesley Logan 11:18  have a very long hallway. (Brad: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah) We have a long hallway. (Brad: It's like 15 steps.) Yeah. But what I would say is, (Brad laughs) if you are like, "Lesley, I hear you. I hear you, Brad. Like, okay, but like, I don't like my schedule doesn't allow me to be in it." Okay, profitablepilates.com/gemstones, watch it, (Brad: Yes) free webinar on how to have an ideal schedule.Brad Crowell 11:34  I was going exactly there. (Lesley: Yeah) If you want to know how, you know, like, because maybe you can't just like, I was thinking maybe you can replace yourself at some of the things that you're doing. You know, and you can... (Lesley: That's more advance ...) you can outsource, you can whatever. But if you don't have that luxury, then the best thing to do is go watch Lesley's free webinar on how do you prioritize yourself first in your own schedule, so that you can still get all the things done, and go to profitablepilates.com/gemstones. (Lesley: Yeah) So.Lesley Logan 12:07  Alright, I love the questions. You all can send your questions into the @be_it_pod on Instagram. We love them or your bold moments. We also love sharing those as well. So keep them coming. If you're like, "What the heck is Instagram?" You know, I'm sure somewhere in the shownotes (Brad laughs) as a contact thing, and you can just hit that or you can just put in your reviews (Brad: Yeah) on Apple and iTunes. Not only does it help me, but then I look at read your bold moment and I'll share with everybody.Brad Crowell 12:30  Yeah. All right. Now let's talk about Lena Franklin's (Lesley: She's amazing.) Lena... It was a great, great interview. (Lesley: Thank you) Lena Franklin is a Modern Medicine Woman. She's a Transpersonal Psychotherapist and a Transformational Speaker. She has a Bachelors in Psychology and a Masters in Social Work. Her passion for bringing ancient eastern practices and healing approaches to our clients led her to create the East Institute with her husband, guiding individuals to optimize their best human embodiment. Through meditation, Lena now teaches others how to optimize and transform their pain and suffering into their greatest strength.Lesley Logan 13:11  Yeah, she's just really cool and I love how life just like, set like, I mean, it's one thing she also said like everything has happening like in a divine timing for you. And her like just like who her parents were and how she was even raised. So she could be this person. Like, it's just really beautiful. So one thing I liked that she said was resistance points are really access points into transformation. (Brad: Hmm) The reason I like this is there's like cliche saying, like, "What you resist, persists." But actually we who do hear this say, "What you resist is an assistance for where you need to go." And in Pilates when I'm teaching people (Brad: Oh) the exercises you don't like are the ones you need.Brad Crowell 13:54  It was, it was Sharon won't the sculptor. Sharon... (Lesley: Oh, from The Artist's Way.) Yeah. And she she's doing The Artist's Way program...Lesley Logan 14:04  Yeah. We're studying with her. (Brad: Yeah. Gainsbourg.) So now... (Brad: Sharon Gainsbourg) Yeah. If you ever listened to an episode, I said, "I didn't actually read the book." We're reading the book now. So we just do things backwards. We started the art and started the pages and now we're in the book. Anyways, yeah, so what so she, so Lena said like resistant points are really access points into transformation. So think of them as a flashlight. What you're resisting is the assistance for what you need to be doing. In Pilates what you don't like your body needs. So what what Lena is saying is like, think of whatever your resistance like a little flashlight on, "Oop, this is where I'm supposed to go for to be transformed." So I just really enjoyed that because I do think we avoid the things we need. And it's so funny because as soon as you do them and you have that transformation, like why I was like... I ... I made fun of Pilates, and then I went I was like, "This is the best thing that ever happened to me." (Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 14:59  Well, this kind of goes hand in hand with another thing she said, where basically, pain is inevitable. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) But suffering is optional. (Lesley: Yeah) And I thought (Lesley: It's a choice) I thought, "wow, that's interesting." She said, "Everything is working in support of our evolution. It's not happening to you. It's happening for you." That's like a whole lot of heady stuff right there. But pain is a teaching tool. Pain is inevitable. But suffering is optional. And I thought that we were just talking about dwelling in the, in dwelling in the moment. I want to say again, last episode. (Lesley: great episode) Yeah. (Lesley and Brad laughs) And actually, but or it would have been the last recap episode, but you know, it, then if pain is inevitable and suffering is optional. Okay. So suffering is dwelling on the pain, but pain becomes the, it's the access point to transformation, like you're just talking about.Lesley Logan 15:58  Yeah. Um, so I just, I think, what I love is that she said that, and she is a woman who lost her mom at a very young age. (Brad: Yeah) Like an early adult. (Brad: Yeah, very unexpected.) Very unexpected. And I and I, the reason I bring that up is I think a lot of people, including myself, will say, "Everything's happening for you." And on the outside, (Brad: Sure) you'd be like, "Okay, Les easy for you to say." Well, yeah, cuz you don't might not know all the things I've been through. But specifically in this interview, you heard her say she lost her mom, very unexpectedly. And that loss is exactly what put her on the track that she's doing right now. (Brad: Yeah) And so if sure, if her mom had not passed, then the world might not have Lena, and what she's doing to help people. So anyways, whatever, you're resisting little flashlight, little flashlight. What did you love?Brad Crowell 16:47  Yeah, so I, I really loved she kind of, well, she talked to... for a little bit, but she said, "Our ego is actually the illusion of safety." Okay (Lesley: Hmm. I believe that. I get it. I get it) So, yeah. So you know, when we think we're in control, or we think we've got, you know, we've got a handle on things or whatever, you know, or maybe our ego is causing us to, you know, act irrationally or whatever. But so our ego is the illusion of safety. And I thought, first off, I thought, you know, it made me think about the book - Ego is the Enemy.Lesley Logan 17:26  Oh, I know, I need to reread that. It's been too long.Brad Crowell 17:28  And it made me remember the definition of ego is not the one that I like... when he defined ego as the enemy in the book. Or when he defined ego in the book, (sorry, Ego is the Enemy.) He basically said, "We think of ego as like, like bravado and arrogance," and like rrrrr, bang your chest kind of like, you know, like, kind of a thing. And he said, but the that is one extreme. The other extreme is being like completely diminutive and being like, like, "I'm not worthy," or looking down. (Lesley: Yes, yes) Like feeling like you're not valuable enough, or whatever. He said, "That is just as much ego. (Lesley: Mm-hmm) It's just the other extreme of what we imagine ego is. It's all ego." (Lesley: Yeah) And...Lesley Logan 18:17  ...I mean, we'll also to... want to talk about like, this is the my my brain went here. People pleasing is a form of control.Brad Crowell 18:24  Yeah. And that is, that's also (Lesley: ego) ego. (Lesley: It's crazy.) Yeah.Lesley Logan 18:28  It's crazy. We think ego is egotistical, but really, it's just like, it's all the things that are actually keeping you from, like, being here on this planet. And then the real thing, it's, it's... everybody needs to read that book. Anyways...Brad Crowell 18:42  Yeah. And, and what I thought was really neat about what Lena said is, she said that we don't want to demonize the ego. We just want to soften it enough so that our true authentic self can shine through.Lesley Logan 18:54  I love that she said that because and a lot of the studies that I'm doing and in a lot of the groups that I'm in, I can hear people demonizing the ego and like, almost aspiring to be like in some, like, alien parallel universe. And I'm like, "No, I don't think that that's a light enlightenment either." (Lesley laughs) But I think it is it's, you know, because also, part of the ego does keep you safe in some ways. Like, (Brad: Yeah) you know, it's just that when we lean too much into it, and we are like riding on the control of it and using it, that's when it gets to the thing. So I do love it (Brad: Yeah) she soften it enough.Brad Crowell 19:28  Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's talk about the BE IT action items. (Lesley: Yes) So, (Lesley: You go first) what bold, executable intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your combo with Lena Franklin? Well, right off the gate, she said she had like a systematic approach, which I think that the conversation kind of took you away from concluding because she covered "BEING," B E I N G. (Lesley: Yeah) Right? (Lesley: Yeah) And we got through B E I and N, but we never actually heard about G. So...Lesley Logan 19:58  Oh (Brad laughs) ... I knew what the G was for growth.Brad Crowell 20:03  Maybe it was growth. Yeah. (Lesley: Yeah) Actually, you know what... it's what's naturally happening. And we're gonna we're gonna call it growth. I love that. (Lesley: I'm almost positive. Lena if I'm wrong, just hit us up.) Alright. Well, so B is being aware of your thoughts. E is understanding that enlightenment comes through awareness of your thoughts. And then we have I is igniting your intention, now that you're aware of your thoughts. And then finally they ... then they have N is what is naturally going to happen now that you've ignited that attention. And then lastly, yeah, growth. (Lesley: Yeah) So BEING. And I thought that was interesting, just to think through that path.Lesley Logan 20:42  Well, I mean, just even being aware of your thoughts, like if you just (Brad: Yeah) all start there, like because I understand, like, "Oh, my God, that's so many letters." If you just start with awareness of your thoughts, then you've already done E, by the way, cuz awareness is the thing. It's a domino effect because the more even like, when I started The Artist's Way, I just did the pages, just doing the pages, I became aware of like, "Wow, I keep having the same fear." (Brad: Hmm) And then you're like, "What's the natural thing? Why do I have this fear? What is this fear? (Brad: Right) Is this fear real?" Like you just... like it is a domino effect. So if you can just actually start with being aware of your thoughts, you are going to like, literally see growth 10 times over so fast.Brad Crowell 21:24  Yeah. And we were just talking about that last episode, too. We're talking about anger. People just like, feel angry, but they don't think, "Why am I angry?" (Lesley: Yeah) And this, I think, is like, you know, goes hand in hand.Lesley Logan 21:37  Maybe that's why we have so many different versions of being curious as BE IT action items from all of our guests. (Brad: Hmm) Like, the curiosity like, and I think like, even Joanna Vargas is one who really taught us as like, questions, questions, questions, question marks are the best thing ever. Like she's all the asking questions. (Brad: Right) And, you know, put a question mark on as many things as you can tomorrow, because you'll become aware of your thoughts.Brad Crowell 21:58  Yeah, well BEING, I thought that was really, (Lesley: Yeah) you know, clever. And it's a great, it's a great way to think about that. What was your biggest takeaway?Lesley Logan 22:06  Okay, come on. Three A's. (Brad: Yeah) Acknowledge, Accept, Alternative action. Boom! I mean, you know how much I am about taking action, messy action, everyone, because that's where clarity comes from. So acknowledge what is happening, like acknowledge that like, like, it's not like, where it's not like when you have when you soften the ego, you don't blow up at something. You know, you blow up with the dog. You're like, "Oh, my God," and then it's just like, "Okay. Oh, I did not actually like how I handled that." (Brad: Yeah) And I accept myself for handling because I'm a human being. Brad Crowell 22:37  Yeah. She said, "Acknowledge the thoughts you don't want to feel. Acknowledge to the judgment. (Lesley: Yeah) Acknowledged the negative, negativity."Lesley Logan 22:44  Yeah. And then take an alternative action. And ...Brad Crowell 22:47  With well, then you have to accept. Right? So (Lesley: Oh so sorry) acknowledge ...Lesley Logan 22:51  ... I thought I said that already. I accept ...Brad Crowell 22:53  You're accepting it with compassion. (Lesley: Yes) Yeah.Lesley Logan 22:56  Yeah. With compassion, space and grace, space and grace. You're going to be imperfect because remember, perfect is boring. Nobody wants to friends with perfect. I was on something last night, and we were talking about how like, "What am I doing yesterday? Was on someone else's podcast. I don't remember the day." Anyways. Oh, it's on my own podcast. I was interviewing people on my own podcast. (Brad laughs) Anyways, those episodes will come out soon. Whoo. And I was like, somebody brought up like, think about those perfect people. Like, do you want to be friends with them? And it's, we really, like accept that you're not perfect, because it's you, it's impossibly perfect. (Brad: Yeah) And like you could not and perfect is like in context. So like, accept that you're not perfect. That wasn't how you wanted to handle it. You're a human being space and grace. And then, and then we come up with an alternative action. So (Brad: Yeah) yelled at the dog didn't like that. So okay. (Brad: Yeah) Space and grace, she was barking nonstop. And she didn't stop. And then what do I want to do instead? And it's like, okay, kinder, softer voice, "Get the F over here, please." (Brad and Lesley laughs)Brad Crowell 23:57  Please. (Lesley: Please) Comma please. (Lesley: Comma please.)Lesley Logan 24:00  So anyways, I hope that I feel like that is like...It's simple.Brad Crowell 24:04  Acknowledge, accept and alternative action.Lesley Logan 24:06  It's simple. It's not easy. But it's it is a simple thing. And even if you start with acknowledge just like becoming aware, (Brad: Right) feeling good. All (Brad: Yeah) right. I'm Lesley Logan.Brad Crowell 24:15  And I'm Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 24:16  This is so fun. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for listening to Lena Franklin's interview. Please tell us your takeaways. Post a screenshot, text it to a friend, you don't even know how to post a screenshot, just text it to a friend. You are how this podcast gets out there and we want what, we all want to hear what your takeaways are. We want to hear what your BE IT moments where, your bold moments and so we can catch you on the next episode.Brad Crowell 24:37  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 24:39  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day!'Be It Till You See It' is a production of 'As The Crows Fly Media'.Brad Crowell 25:12  It's written, produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. 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How can pain become a power tool? How can the experiences that create resistance lead to transformation? Lena takes listeners through the BEING method and tips to becoming more mindful everyday. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co . And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Knowing your passion, but waiting to know how to apply the passionYour souls purpose is not a coincidencePain is a teaching tool, suffering is optionalProcessing the pain to transform yourselfThe BEING Method : Being aware of your thoughts & Enlightenment comes through awareness Cultivating a more mindful present life with intentionsThe fear of power and owning your own powerThe Three A's: Acknowledge, Accept, Alternative ActionEpisode References/Links:Lena's WebsiteThe East InstituteLena's InstagramEAST InstagramGuest Bio:Lena Franklin is a Modern Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist, and Transformational Speaker, offering the ancient practices of meditation, energy medicine and psycho-spiritual healing in an accessible way for a modern lifestyle. Formally trained with a Bachelor of Science in Psychology and a Master of Science in Social Work, Lena is dedicated to guiding others on a journey of embodied purpose, presence and liberated wholeness.Lena has taught transformational workshops and retreats all over the globe, guiding thousands to transform their suffering into strength by accessing their multi-dimensional existence. Raised in a hybrid Buddhist/Christian home, Lena was introduced to meditation as a young child and now integrates Eastern philosophy with Western neuroscience in her healing and teaching work.Lena is the co-founder of The East Institute, a global organization that exists to support the healing and awakening of humanity and the planet through ancient embodied practices, plant medicines and cutting-edge science.Lena is also the creator of The BEING Method ~ a systematic method for igniting your highest human potential through meditation and The Meditation Membership ~ a global community for awakening where members receive weekly meditations and transformational teachings transmitted by Lena.Lena has been featured on Bravo, Lifetime, the cover of Yoga Magazine, and in The NY Times, Telegraph, World Travel Magazine and more. Visit her website to learn more about her practice and schedule of meditation journeys, transformative workshops, corporate and continuing education offerings: www.lenafranklin.com  OPC Flashcards:OPC Flashcards are on AmazonOPC Flashcards are on our site  If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.  ResourcesWatch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube!Lesley Logan websiteBe It Till You See It PodcastOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley LoganOnline Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTubeProfitable Pilates Social MediaInstagramFacebookTik TokLinkedIn Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  Hey, Be It listener, how are you? Ah, okay, I can not wait for you to hear this episode. So I am going to try not to ramble because I just want to get into it because Lena Franklin is just, she's amazing. Like, here, a woman who's just so in touch with her, her purpose on this planet. And there's something about being around people like that, that makes it so much easier to step into your own power and awesomeness. And we talk a lot about stepping into your power and the fear we can have there. And I just share this with you. Because here's why, I didn't grow up with people around me who were doing things that I wanted to be doing. I didn't, I didn't know a lot of people who were being their true selves and unapologetically being that I didn't know a lot of people who weren't being in their eat, like working with their ego. I didn't know a lot of entrepreneurs, I didn't that this didn't happen. I didn't see that. And so I can, I understand if you're someone who is walking through this life and just going, it must be so easy for them. Because it wasn't I don't, I don't know that I don't recognize that. And I say this to you because what I did is, was scary. It was really hard. I felt like an imposter all the time. But I constantly tried to seek out people who were doing or had done the things I wanted to be doing. I kept seeking out those relationships. And here's the thing, every single one of us has a gift. And so what I learned in doing that, and putting myself in rooms and putting myself in conversations, putting myself in places with people who had a quality or a skill or had done something I wished I had. I had some that they wanted, because we all have amazing gifts. And I say that to you because this this new year it can be anything you want it to be and if you're listening to this, and another year, this day can be anything you want it to be and I can't wait for you to listen to her be it tips because she'll explain how you can do that. Because I don't I know I say that people go, "yeah, right Leslie like today's a bad day for me." But like get to the end of this podcast cuz you're gonna freakin love that you can. You have every day to have an opportunity to step into the person you want to be actually multiple moments in each day. And Being It Till You See It is not like a light switch. "I'll just turn it on, and now we're it." And it's not that it's going to be easy, everyday. Some days, it's going to be easy to Be It Till You See It and other days. It's gonna be like "what in the world I don't know what I'm doing. I'm scared. I'm afraid I'm tired. I'm freakin exhausted. Hello, like I can't be it today." But it's a practice. Everything we're doing is a practice and it's about the reps. And, and I just challenge you to keep listening. And keep Being It Till You See It and take those tiny action steps each day because they add up they add up it's like a snowball effect. So I love you. I'm so grateful for you. Thank you for listening to this podcast. Thank you for sharing it. You you need to know that every single download you do is a massive impact on so many others because every single download you have actually helps other people find this podcast every time you share this podcast, whether you text it, tweet it, Instagram at all those things. It is how people's lives get changed and if we're all Being It Till we See It doesn't make it easier for you? Right? It does. So thank you for being you. And after this quick message, Lena Franklin...Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guests will bring Bold, Executable, Intrinsic and Targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Alright Be It listener, what's up! Okay, so I'm so excited for today because I was listening to this amazing woman, when you hear voice, you're just gonna be like, "Okay, I could just listen to for hours." But I was listening to her while on my holiday vacation and she was talking with my dear friend Amber Shaw, we've had on the podcast so if you haven't listened to that when you go back. But I was I found myself talking to the two of you on the podcast and I wasn't not involved in the conversation. So I was like I just have to have her on so we ...(Lesley laughs) so I'm so excited to have you on here Lena that this is amazing. Can you please tell everyone who you are? What you're rocking like what you're doing in this world? Because it's beautiful.Lena Franklin 4:56  Mmhm, Thank you Lesley. I'm so grateful to be here. with you. So I'm Lena Franklin. I'm a modern medicine woman. I'm a transpersonal, psychotherapist, and transformational speaker. And my work is really all about sharing ancient eastern practices and ancient healing approaches, modalities here in the modern world in an accessible way for anybody to really optimize their human embodiment, to really be the best, most expansive versions of themselves. And I am honored to do this work. So I actually learned meditation originally, when I was a young child, my mom taught me meditation because I grew up in a Buddhist Christian home. So my whole life's journey has been this kind of interesting integration of East and West. Lesley Logan 5:51  That okay, so first of all, that is an incredible, interesting childhood to grow up with, and I think (Lena: yea) it's so amazing how things set us up. But I, you know, I, as I mentioned earlier, before we start recording, but also our listeners have heard like, Brad and I go to Cambodia a lot. And there's something when you go to a place where they practice these eastern practices, like really practice them. You can be you can come and be stressed out. And then that plane lands, it's like, you you're going to get ground. They're grounding you. Like it's happening. And you can go with it, or you can fight it. But I remember when I landed there, we got in the, in the tuck, tuck, and I was like, "Babe, My soul is home". And he goes, we haven't even it's dark. It's 10pm. We haven't seen anything. And I was like, "No, I feel so at peace right now." And then you go and you like, we're so great when they teach us a few things on, on honoring the Buddha and the temples, but also, like, just sitting still, and it is so it's so it sounds so common sense to sit still. But like it's so hard for us here to do that. (Lena: uhhu) And so I think it is so cool that you grew up with both of those as parents and your life. Because I think you can relate to people so well, because I mean, if you I was raised Christian, but even if you're not like just being in that Western society with one pair, and then having the Eastern practices from the other, like, you can actually like translate it really well.Lena Franklin 7:14  Totally, totally. I mean, it was so interesting. My dad's Christian, he is Presbyterian. And it's... we need I feel these eastern practices now more than ever, because of the the state of the world. And just it kind of feels like we're living in a pressure cooker. But yeah, I grew up witnessing my mom sit at our ancestral altar and light incense and all the rituals. And you know, when something horrific or painful was going on in the world, she would make us as kids sit in silence and tune into the compassionate heart, the energy that flows through our heart in really sharing it with the world in this intentional way. So, you know, at the time, I thought it was kind of strange, obviously, weird, like "mom's being weird. And her monk robe again doing, doing her, all her little woowoo spiritual things." But it planted these incredible, just powerful seeds within me, that didn't blossom until much later in my life.Lesley Logan 8:18  And I want to talk about that. Because like, I can imagine as a child, you're like, but none of my friends moms do this. Like my friend's mom, something bad happens. And they're like, probably panicked, like, and you think that that's the normal thing to do? Like, Mom, why aren't you doing this? And so, did you? Did you grow up knowing you were going to go into teaching this? Or did you kind of like, wind your way and come back around?Lena Franklin 8:42  Yeah, that's a great question. So I did not know as a child that I was going to be teaching this, but my mom did. So she would say things like, you're meant to bring people back to my homeland. So my mom was from Vietnam. Okay. So that's, that's where my maternal lineage is from. And I'd be like, "okay, Mom," you know, I have no idea what you're talking about. But just, she had that mystical, kind of healer energy, but because we were in a very conventional Western, you know, society in town. It wasn't fully acknowledged it wasn't fully honored. And so I didn't really realize the gift she was sharing with me at the time. But, you know, as I continued to, to evolve on my own path, I realized, you know, people will just gravitate towards me naturally. Not school, when when friends would be having issues or problems or you needed some support emotionally. I was naturally the person they would gravitate towards. So eventually, I realized I was meant to help other humans. I just didn't know exactly what that looked like.Lesley Logan 9:47  Yeah. So how, because I, I mean, I don't know. I don't want to like insert my life, but I think of like, I had no idea what that heck I was gonna be. So (Lena: yeah) like, and so as your as you're doing this, like, how, how did you go from like, "Okay, people are coming to me." And then to where you are today, which is you teach people like you're a life coach and you teach all these practices like, what was that shift? And then? And was it easy for you? Like, you're like, Oh, this is natural for me like, of course I'm doing this or did you feel like you had to work towards it in any way?Lena Franklin 10:23  Yeah. So most of my childhood life, like, even through high school and into college was very focused on physicality. I was a high level athlete, I played soccer, I got a full ride to play soccer at the University of Georgia. So it's all about physicality, competition, sports. And what, what really changed the trajectory of my life, Lesley was, was really my own pain and suffering. My mom actually suddenly passed when I was in my first year of grad school. So actually, you know, at that point, I knew I was meant to help people. I was in grad school for social work. So I was getting my master's in social work. And she suddenly, you know, died of a stroke healthy, you know, didn't have any any health conditions, but just had a sudden stroke one day literally I had talked to her earlier that day, she had been to a friend's horse farm and had the most beautiful, joyful day. And she had a stroke that evening, and was in a coma for a few days until we could see her and then she transitioned. So it was really through my experience of grief and loss and pain, that I fully committed to my yoga and meditation practice. And that's, that's what sent me on this trajectory, I realized, you know, sitting like you said, sitting still, it was more healing than the traditional therapy I was in at the time, because I could see myself in a way I'd never seen myself before, I was so much more expansive than the pain I was experiencing was almost like I was having this existential experience through the pain I was experiencing. And my mom, in that moment of her transition, she became a spiritual teacher in soul form, outside of, you know, human form. And so it was our souls contract together, you know, she was she was meant to transition when she did. And that's what sent me on my journey of helping, you know, so many other humans on their pathLesley Logan 12:31  That is so powerful, because I think so many people like, of course, my instinct is to say, I'm so sorry, because that is a terrible, tragic thing to lose that someone who's such a person in your life, such as support, but then also for that to be the reason why you are, who you are and doing what you're doing. It's almost like, if that didn't happen, how would we get how would you get here, you know?Lena Franklin 12:55  Exactly. It's like, you know, what you see in the Buddhist temples, the mandalas, and all of the, like, everything is shifting in divine sequence. And that was what was meant to happen, like a domino effect to set me on this, this path of really living out my soul's purpose in this particular lifetime. And then now, it's no coincidence that a big part of my work is teaching people how to alchemize and transform their pain and suffering into their greatest strength because those resistance points are really access points into our deeper healing and transformation.Lesley Logan 13:35  Okay, thank you for bringing that up. Because I was like, "How do I get the listener at home? who's like, okay, Lesley, that's great. She was set up her mom totally trained her set her up for this, it was, but that didn't happen for me. Like, that's not how like mine was so..." Like, how, how do you like, what is the thing that you can use to get people that you use to help people see that this great pain is actually their greatest default resource? Or? (Leana: Yeah), yeah. Like what? I don't know. I don't know if you can answer that. But like, do you know what I mean, like, how do what how do you tell someone who's sitting there and pain and suffering like this is actually going to be the greatest thing that ever happened for you?Lena Franklin 14:13  You know, it's important for someone to get that message. But they're not actually going to see the fruits of their pain until the fog subsides a bit. So it's what I would say to those listening because as humans none of us are exempt from pain and suffering. I mean, our the pain is inevitable suffering is optional, because the suffering is us fighting with ourselves not wanting to feel this present moment experience. So in that, whatever you're experiencing right now, whatever challenge, painful situation, piece of suffering. The most important question that you can ask yourself is, "what is this pain trying to teach me"? And if we If we think about that, like that everything is working in support of our evolution, even the most dark, painful moments, then we can flip the perspective and transform our lens to receive life in this much more easeful way, because of we're here on this planet, and we're going to feel challenging moments, then why not transform them into our greatest lessons, because that's actually why we're all here. So it's, it's trusting something that is beyond you, it's trusting the, that you're supported, and that you're loved, despite the pain that you're going through. And it's also I think, this is a really important piece, it's like getting out of our own way, releasing that victimhood that you know, we all actually possess during our life at some point. And then when we go through our deep healing, we can transform it, but this is not happening to you, it's happening for you. And that universal truth is so key. In all of this. Lesley Logan 16:02  You know, it is so key. And it's, I think it's like, I wish people I wish, like when you're young, and it's like I wish my parents had said, this is happening for you, you know, as opposed to not say anything at all, because having to unlearn that victim stuff. And some for some people, a victim mentality gets them attention. And so then they learn behaviors. Now, this is the thing that they're keeping. And so like, I think I would be the first one to say like, I have a really I have a hard time meditating, like, sitting still, (Lena: yep) like, yoga practices. Like, I finally found a teacher who talks the whole time I'm like, thank you so much. Like, please, my chatter is you got to talk over this. So. So I that's why I like found myself with breathwork. Because I really, when you talked about that expansiveness, you're like, I have felt that and like until you feel it, it's kind of like, what are they talking about these people? Right? But it is, it is a breath. That is a way I've been able to meditate. So how do how do you help the person who's like, "Okay, ladies, I'm hearing this. I've heard it many times. I'm ready to buy in. How do I sit? Still? How do I do this? Like, do you have tips for that?"Lena Franklin 17:10  Yeah, so okay, what I'll say is some, okay, we only use such a small part of our, percentage of our human brain, you know, like, 3% something very, very small. So much is happening within your consciousness within your body, beyond your human awareness. Every time you sit so many times, and I tell this to my meditation students all the time is a successful meditation is sitting still, from the first bell when the first bell rings, to when the last bell rings, it's a commitment to stillness, even if you're not perceiving anything, we'll say expansive happening. So for someone who's like, okay, that's, that's great, but like, I, when am I going to feel the benefit? It will come, you know, it's like, trusting this process that is deeper and more multi dimensional than what you can even perceive. So as humans, we know so little part of this is like just admitting, like we know so little. And going back to the basics is one of the most powerful things we can do. Connect to your breath, breathe deeply into your belly, sit still. Listen to your inner self, and cultivate the greatest relationship you'll ever have, which is the relationship you have with your soul. And I promise you, if you commit to that every day, you will begin to feel different, and you will begin to deepen and expand and transform yourself.Lesley Logan 18:47  Yeah, I mean, I, you are correct. And it's interesting. I was telling someone earlier today on another person's podcast asked me like, how did you even get into Pilates and I said, "It's the weirdest thing. I really didn't think I was gonna love it. I really thought this is gonna be this dumb thing." And I went, and in one moment, for the first time, even though I was moving, I wasn't sitting, I was doing the 100. But my brain and my body like had this like, it's like they saw each other for the first time and like, I felt parts of my body I never felt and I, I that that led me to be able to sit still from at least one belt to another, but it's the practice of it, right? It's like trusting like, Okay, I wasn't really good at this today. But I got down on the ground and that I do it again. And I do like it's your give. I giving my body confidence that I can do this. And so when I started doing breath work and mindfulness trainings, I was like, "Okay, I'm not going to be great. I'm gonna be a beginner at this." And I'm not, I'm not going to have the expanse of things because just like when I was beginner Pilates, I couldn't do the roll up. But you you do get there and it is this interesting thing because your brain is eventually going to once you get past like sitting still from bell to bell and going okay, so nothing crazy happened. I just sat here and like, nothing bad happened either the ceiling didn't fall in the world didn't float, I think that's another thing that people have to get used to is like, it's gonna be okay. (Lena: Yeah) If I just sit here for this amount of time. So you know, you you work with so many people and and you do some really awesome work and just helping people. I was listening to Amber's relationship with you and like what you've helped or do. And is there a framework or a system that you like to use with people? Is there something that you do that really helps people kind of step into their own power? Like, what is that something that you work with?Lena Franklin 20:35  I do, I would say, you know, one of my specialties and parts of my purpose really involve coaching and stepping people into the fullest expression of who they're meant to be. So in essence, like their daring, authentic power, and one of the portals into that is meditation, because that's, you know, that's a way that we intimately know or get to know ourselves. So there's a method that literally came through me one morning in meditation, and I have a, we have a meditation temple here at the house, and I was sitting there and you know, it's like, amazing, when you do open up and you become a clear channel, what, what moves through, because you actually have the space to hear it and to listen. So it's, um, it's called the Being Method. And it's a way that we can work with our in our life, our emotions, our thoughts, in order to kind of what I call like, clear the space and to embody this authentic power that exists has always existed within us, but maybe has been tamped down by different thoughts, belief systems, different dense energies. So kind of briefly, I can move through it, (Lesley: Yeah) that was the Being Method and it's really helpful, you can use it outside of traditional meditation. So the B of being is become aware of your thoughts, you know, becoming aware of what's moving through your mind, we can't hear what we're not aware of. So what are the default modes of thinking that you experience on a day to day basis, because you have to begin identifying that so I teach a lot of kind of conscious mindful journaling, as people are on unveiling deeper layers of awareness. So become aware of your thought process. What are you thinking in a pattern way. The E is Enlightenment begins at the moment of your awareness. So I like this one because we think enlightenment is something outside of ourselves, something that is so far away that only Jesus, Buddha, other Ascended Masters were able to experience. No, the moment that you become aware of something that's in your consciousness is a moment of enlightenment. So we can have many moments of enlightenment throughout our day. So when you're becoming aware, it's you. Yes, you are in an active process of transforming yourself and healing yourself and you become aware. So it's like to me that that one gives a lot of hope.Lesley Logan 23:03  Cool, because yeah, we know you said enlightenment, I'm like, "Okay, I know, I don't know, that's like Navanna, that's like your floating on clouds." You're like, no, actually, won't you just became aware, like, enlightened? I'm like, "oop, I'm in."Lena Franklin 23:18  Yeah, I mean, and we can enlighten ourselves all day long, because we can become aware all day long. So I think that's a really important distinction, for you know, for for anybody, you know, in this realm, who wants to really cultivate a more mindful present life. Yeah. So the I is to ignite intention, you know, being so committed to what you want to call into your life, how you want to live, how you want to feel, and committing to that every day through thoughts and action. So what is your intention? What are you going to ignite in your life, for me this year is all about expansion and expansion, unapologetically in all ways. So my thoughts, my words, my actions are going to align with that intention. So being getting very clear, and of course, our intention shifts over time, you know, one month or one year, some intention may serve us but giving ourselves permission to allow that intention to, to evolve as we evolve. So, the end is all about non attachment, which is, you know, is actually a very traditional Buddhist psychology tenant. So and it can be one of the most challenging steps because when we desire something, we have an attachment to the outcome. But as much as you can, when you set your intention, and you commit to align to action, if you can release, you know, align with the energy of release, releasing that intention into the universe, to unfold in its own timeline, than that is key to creating the inner and outer life that you deeply desire. So that non attachment piece because your Higher Self operates from non attachment, it's your ego that operates from attachment.Lesley Logan 25:08  So that makes me think of just really quick side note, we had a guest, her name is Hazel, and she talked about miracle goals. And like, like not just going, oh, I want to have a house. She's like, I want to have a pimp mansion. I want movies and music videos, a film, I want to have big parties, right? She had no money, like, none. And then she's like, and but she's like, I'm gonna have this, I believe it. I have that intention. And then she like, did the first little tiny step. Right. And then nine months later, she's freaking in this mansion there. Yeah. But like, I when you say that, like I because I'm in a process of like a really big goal. And I'm like, I am really that's one I struggle with. Because it's like, I have to take the action every day. And so like not letting the action taking get attached to the you know what I mean? Like, it's like, because you got to do the things that some...you know ...(Lesley laughs) So that's a challenge.Lena Franklin 26:05  It is a challenge. Yeah. And so that's why it's a practice you you work with it every day, you set the intention, you make the aligned action. And then I love and this is a very kind of shamanic practice, but literally breathing, using your hands out from your mouth, from your body, and really aligning so deeply with that non attachment piece, that release piece, it actually creates a swifter result. It feels counterintuitive, but it creates a swifter result.Lesley Logan 26:34  I love that. I'm doing. Yeah, I'm borrowing that. Thank you so much ...(Lesley laughs)Lena Franklin 26:38  You're welcome. And then the last step is, is just what naturally happens, growth naturally happens when you practice the steps before in the Being Method. Your true nature is expansive evolution, your true nature is power, its success, its abundance. We're simply getting out of our own way, by working with our thoughts and reprogramming what's not in alignment with what we deeply desire. So the Being Method to me is, is such an accessible way to do some of this work.Lesley Logan 27:13  Okay, this is beautiful. I mean, I couldn't think of like it, that's a great way to be until you see it, because it's like, become aware of your thoughts. Yes, enlightenment, which have awareness, and then, and then you keep going through it. And I just What I also like about it, thank you for making remind people to practice because I do think that everything really is, isn't it? And we get hung up on, I didn't do it right. Today. I didn't do it. Oh, that's not working. And it's like, no, actually, that's part of practice, like, you're gonna stumble, you're gonna make mistakes, you can make tweaks and you're going to realize, "Oh, I'm totally attached today, I'm really attached. And now I'm aware of that thought." And, you know, so I think this is really helpful, because I do think you said fullest expression of ourselves. And I, I find that a lot of people struggle with, with either trusting that that's a possibility for them or being comfortable with that.Lena Franklin 28:10  Yes, yeah, I believe that, you know, one of the things that we're most fearful of is our power. It's really our power. And that's, that's where we carry so much resistance is like in that metamorphosis expansion, because all of our, all of those old, outdated belief systems get triggered, you know, "who am I to fill in the blank". And that's where I think we can't practice these things without compassion, self compassion, because we are imperfectly perfect humans, we're gonna falter, we're gonna make mistakes, we're gonna have heavy days. But this if we treat our whole life, like as its own living meditation, that our whole life is a practice, I think we can have more grace with ourselves. But this, you know, it's not, it's not easy. These practices may be simple, like, some of the concepts are simple, but they're not always easy to implement.Lesley Logan 29:07  Isn't that the truth simple is rarely easy. I, I'm so grateful we're having this conversation. Because it's like my first like, my second day back in my office, and I. And, you know, we're doing a big scary thing tomorrow, like I'm, we're, I've been wanting to expand on one of our companies big time, and I had to get away of like, the attention of when that was going to happen, because like, I wasn't seeing the growth that I needed to see. And so I was like, trying to like, control that growth. And I was finally like, okay, we're just going to pick a date. Where we're going to bring on these new teachers into the program because I do believe that if everyone has a Pilates practice, even a 15 minute one, they get connected to themselves. They connect to themselves and connect more to others, right? And they're practicing doing hard things through movement. So if you can't do it that day, how you talk to yourself on the mat is information for you. If you can't do it, but you pick something else, you just told yourself, I can do hard things I can find another way I can do this stuff. And so we're constantly reminding them. But I needed to have other people, other voices, because not everyone can hear mine. Not everyone's gonna understand the words that I use versus someone else's. And I've been scared to death because I'm like, of course, there's that ego. But what if no one likes him? What if people don't like that? What if this and this all this stuff. And I'm like, okay, hold on. We were feeling so good about this yesterday. You know, and so it's like, knowing that, you know, it's, it's not, it's not like when you get that enlightenment on that one Awareness Day, it's not the end, it's like, tomorrow's a new day. And there's a new thought later on and, and just being kind to yourself, and I love that you talk about grace, it's like, it's really not easy to work on this, but it gets easier, the more you do it.Lena Franklin 30:53  Totally, totally, it's almost like, like the client I had right before I jumped on with you. We've talked about this being her spiritual training, you know, like, training. Whether you're training your mind, your soul, your body, you're going to go through resistance, you're going to have sore muscles, you're going to feel creaky sometimes. But it's pushing through that resistance in order to discover a power that maybe you haven't tapped into yet. That's why I think I love what you do, because it's, it's all integrated. This mind, body, soul existence, whatever the access point is, it's all very, you know, can be a lesson that we take in every domain of our life.Lesley Logan 31:37  So I want to thank you, I, and I think it's like, you know, whatever gets you in, like, you start to get on the journey, right? So I want to go back to the afraid of our power. Because I do think like a lot of people here like often, like, because the reason I named this Be It Till You See It is because people ask me all the time, like, "how are you so confident?" I'm like, I'm freakin scared. I'm scared to death. I'm scared. People aren't gonna like me. I'm like, literally afraid of what people are gonna say. So I just Be It. I'm like, "well, if I wasn't scared, if I didn't care what people thought what would I do"? But I, I think a lot of people nod and go, yes. And then there's that fear. A lot of people don't talk about but that fear of the power of like, what they're capable of? And? And is that that because of the learn behaviors as a child? Or is it that we just haven't seen a lot of good people step into there? Like, what, what is that? Why are we so afraid of that?Lena Franklin 32:29  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah... so it's a big piece of it, I would say the predominant piece is the ego, the individual ego, but also the collective ego, because we, the ego thrives on fear, and are the systems and you know, so much in society is thrives on fear. And a lot of the well meaning, you know, not always but but generally well meaning parents that we've had, they try to teach us things, but a lot of the lessons a lot of the belief systems are based in fear, you know, and some rightly so to try to keep us safe. But when we then are on this path will say, you know, spiritual growth or personal development, trying to be the fullest expression of who we're meant to be. Those outdated, I call them viral systems that we've been programmed with get activated, because our ego is the one that continues to keep us small to keep us in the, what I call the illusion of safety, not actual safety. And so inevitably, in order to embody your, your authentic power, we have to be willing to do the shadow work of unpacking, what are the belief systems that are still entrenched in my fear based ego? But I think a lot of it is conditioned, is programmed. (Lesley: Yeah) Throughout our life. Lesley Logan 33:58  Yeah. No, it's your so correct. Because I, I had an accountability coach from a program I did. And I was telling them what I was worried about. It's like, three years ago, I just started the company. And I was like, "well, I'm so afraid, because like, if my pl... my platform gets really big, then my friends who own their platform when they get mad at me, because I'm not trying to take their people." And she's like, and I heard myself say it right. I said it out loud. Yeah. Which is always interesting. And then she's like, "you have such a fear of success". And I was like, who would have a fear of success? Like, right, that sounds so dumb, but like it as you say, like a fear of our own power, it that's it. Right, like, because why? You know, like, for whatever reason I was I had this belief that I like I bragged, or I did better than other people wouldn't be able to do but who knows what that came from. But as you say that I'm thinking like, how interesting it kind of correlates. It's like, if you haven't seen it, if you haven't seen that around you or if you if for whatever reason you were told, like "hey, don't you'll hurt people's feelings. If you talk about the good things that you're doing." You know, that's bragging. Like, we, we do get that and then the ego is keeping us safe. Because it's like, well, don't do that cuz you're gonna get hurt, like you're going to hurt someone like all that stuff. And it's so interesting because we don't even know it until like we're going through life. And then it gets it causes issues, it causes friction, it causes us frustration in us and, and so it's just it's so fascinating, but I'm just going to this thing and I'm like, oh my god, it's such a, like, as I say, who have a fear of their own power. I'm like, Well, I have such as fear of success that I have to call it all that like, "oop, this is my fear of success talking". Lena Franklin 35:31  Totaly, and I know it's so interesting, because our, our initial response is like, who would be afraid of that? Like, who would be afraid of success or expansion or power or whatever. But when you really unpack it, it's like, oh, yeah, that's like a deep part of our core, you know, growth area is owning is owning our true power. Because true authentic power has nothing to prove. You know, and I'm sure you've, you've because you've interviewed so many amazing people. It's like when you're in the midst of that, of someone's presence, that that embodies that, there's like this lack of striving or just lack of pushing, it's like, they just are because they know their worth, and they love themselves. Deeply.Lesley Logan 36:14  Yeah, it's your that is so true. Like I would, I remember in my, like, major hustle days, not the fun hustle, not the like hustle that kind of has to like, come like you have to do a little bit of work. But like in the striving, like, I just got to push this boulder up a mountain, I would look at some of these people that I like, admired so much. I'm like, they just look like this. They just make it look like they're at ease. Like they are like, like, so chill. And it's. And it's, I thought maybe it comes with time or practice. But I the more I dive into this and like listening to you, it's like, no, they just start getting that ego out of the way more often than not ...(Lesley laughs)Lena Franklin 36:51  Corect, yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's like, okay, we don't want to demonize the ego, we just want to soften it enough. So our true authentic self empower can shine through.Lesley Logan 37:02  Oh, my gosh, girl, I could talk. I feel like I could talk for hours. I'm like, how do we just.(Lena: I agree) Like, when do I get, how do I get to work with you more? Okay, so where do you like to hang out? How do people get to work with you? Lena Franklin 37:14  Okay, so you can check out more of my work on my website, lenafranklin.com l e n a franklin.com And also, my husband and I just launched the East Institute, which is a learning institute that embodies ancient healing modalities. And we support people and work with people through the East Institute as well. And that's the EastInstitute.com and (Lesley: oh that's so cool). Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, um, it's been amazing. It's a global organization, that really, we think of ourselves as a bridge between East and West, and really bringing ancient practices to the West in a really accessible way. So check it out.Lesley Logan 37:58  Oh my gosh, I'm going to also anytime I hear someone works with her husband, I'm like, Oh, hi, me, too. (Lesley laughs)Lena Franklin 38:04  Yeah, I love that we have that parallel. Because it's, yeah, anyhow, that's a whole another conversation. (Lena laughs)Lesley Logan 38:09  Yeah, yeah well, someday we can go. This is how you work with your husband.Lena Franklin 38:14  This is how you work with your husband and survive. Yeah.Lesley Logan 38:19  Well, amazing. Everyone, check out Lena Franklin on Instagram and the East Institute. Before I let you go. I mean, you've given us so many great tips that Being I'm gonna like, put on my wall. But any other bold, executable intrinsic or targeted tips that people can take away and take some action on in their life from this conversation.Lena Franklin 38:41  Yeah, there's a call like a mindset mindfulness hack that I use every day throughout the day. And it has been one of the tools that has been so accessible and transformative for my own life, my own growth, but also for my clients and students. So it's called the three A's and it's, it's a way for you to reprogram your thoughts and align more deeply with what you truly desire. I mean I'll just run through it real quick. So people have it. But the first the first A is to acknowledge. Acknowledge the thought you don't want to feel, acknowledge the judgment, acknowledge the negativity. So again, with compassion. The second A is to accept you're just having this thought because you're human. You know, this is a part of your human humaneness. We all have thoughts we're not proud of that we don't want to think or we don't want to own. So this is like the action piece of you know, shifting into your heart and just acknowledging that's a part of your humaneness. And then the third A is the transformative piece piece and that's alternative action, what are you going to do differently? So it could be implementing a mantra, a thought that you want to feel that you want to embody. It could be changing your habit, you know, little micro shift every day to shift a habit. It could be grounding yourself in the moment to shift from that hyper mental energy into your body, that that alternative action piece is the transformative piece of change and transformation. So the three A's, it's like how I work with my own mind on a day to day basis. And it's really, it's really helpful, very powerful,Lesley Logan 40:19  So powerful. I like envision myself just going through those steps in that alternative action. It's like, that's the best part because it's like, you can actually, like, make the decision to change in the moment. (Lena: Right, exactly) That's so empowering. Thank you. You're amazing, beautiful, I hope to we have to figure out ways to run into each other I'm going to definitely become your new best friend ...(Lesley laughs)Lena Franklin 40:45  On this day, let's do it.Lesley Logan 40:47  Wonderful. Well, the listener thank you so much for listening to this. How are you use these tips in your life? Do me a huge favor. Screenshot this tag, Lena Franklin, tag the Be It pod and let us know. And and you know, what do us a favor send the link to this pod to a friend because I I If this changed for you and something in your head. It's going to change for someone else. And if we as a collective even just actually understand being aware of the first part being aware, we can like really change the world there. Thank you so much for being here, everyone. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review. And follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the @be_it_pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day! Be it till You See It as a production of As The Crows Fly Media.Brad Crowell 41:54  It's written produced, filmed and recorded by your host Lesley Logan and me, Brad Crowell. Our Associate Producer is Amanda Frattarelli.Lesley Logan 42:05  Kevin Perez at Disenyo handles all of our audio editing.Brad Crowell 42:09  Our theme music is by Ali at APEX Production Music. And our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 42:18  Special thanks to our designer Jaira Mandal for creating all of our visuals (which you can't see because this is a podcast) and our digital producer, Jay Perdoso for editing all video each week so you can.Brad Crowell 42:30  And to Angelina Herico for transcribing each of our episodes so you can find them on our website. And, finally to Meridith Crowell for keeping us all on point and on time.Transcribed by https://otter.aiSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

In this episode, Barney and Jacob interview Dr. Lena Franklin about her experience with practicing medicine and the impact of faith and family on her profession.

Lena Franklin joined me to discuss the practice of mindfulness for transformation.  We discussed her experience helping people heal through gratitude, meditation, and intention along with the importance of using play and fun as a way of rediscovering joy.   Remember to Subscribe

#070- This week on The Meg Rock Show, I was able to sit down with Lena Franklin. Lena is a psychotherapist who integrates Eastern philosophy with Western neuroscience. Her holistic healing work is grounded in Buddhist psychology, mindfulness meditation, insight yoga, and energy medicine - in addition to psychodynamic foundations. Lena was raised in a hybrid Buddhist and Christian home and was introduced to meditation at a young age. Throughout a couple of spiritual awakings in her life, Lena got back to yoga and meditation and found that the healing and insight that she received through yoga and meditation was far greater than any therapy session she had been involved in. This led Lena to want to share her knowledge and her healing with as many people as possible. You guys are going to love this episode. You will see Lena's heart for transforming suffering into strength and giving people the ability to tap into their deep passion + guide them on the journey towards inner peace and emotional balance. Lena is also the Founder of the Being Method ~ a meditative method to shift from stress to serenity. Lena has been featured in various media outlets including the New York Times, Modern Luxury, and World Traveler magazines. Take the Manifesting Quiz, https://www.thrivewithmarge.com/quiz Join the Community: Instagram, https://www.instagram.com/themegrock Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/meg.schwarzrock Where to find Lisa: Website, https://www.lenafranklin.com/ Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/iamlenafranklin Twitter, https://twitter.com/iamlenafranklin Instagram, https://www.instagram.com/iamlenafranklin/

  The definition of Power is objectively connected to material things, almost always associated with money, possessions, and wealth; what most people don't know is that we can all manifest and implement Authentic Power in our lives. Authentic Power essentially means that we are free to create, attract, and envision what's aligned with our higher self and it can bring more benefits than expected. In this episode of The Wellness Revolution Podcast, Amber welcomes Lena Franklin and Lena explains the concept of Authentic Power in detail. An important aspect of this concept is that it's inclusive and not selfish, because in its core it means abundance for everybody. Lena also shares her experience with meditation, how important it is to ground ourselves when life asks us to do so, and the differences between Masculine vs. Feminine energy. Tune in to learn how to attract this liveliness behavior into your life. Wellness Quote “Being with yourself is maybe one of the most courageous things that you'll ever do because the mind is a wild place, and most people spend their entire lives running from themselves.” – Lena Franklin Episode Resources Mark your calendar for Thursday, November 25 at 6 PM EST for a special Black Friday offer! Go to https://yourmemore.com/discount/Amber to save 30% at check out! Connect with Lena Instagram: @iamlenafranklin Facebook: Lena Franklin Twitter: @iamlenafranklin Website: lenafranklin.com E-mail: lena@lenafranklin.com Connect with Amber Instagram: @msambershaw TikTok: @msambershaw Website: ambershaw.com

Lena Franklin is a Modern Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist, and Transformational Speaker, offering the ancient practices of meditation, energy medicine and psycho-spiritual healing in an accessible way for a modern lifestyle. Formally trained with a Bachelor or Science in Psychology and a Master of Science in Social Work, Lena is dedicated to guiding others on a journey of embodied purpose, presence and liberated wholeness. In this episode we talk about beginning a meditation practice, how religion has played a role in our lives, divorce, shedding our ego and so much more. Connect with Lena: IG:@iamlenafranklin Website: www.lenafranklin.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Lena Franklin is a Modern Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist, and Transformational Speaker, offering the ancient practices of meditation, energy medicine and psycho-spiritual healing in an accessible way for a modern lifestyle. Formally trained with a Bachelor or Science in Psychology and a Master of Science in Social Work, Lena is dedicated to guiding others on a journey of embodied purpose, presence and liberated wholeness. In this episode we talk about beginning a meditation practice, how religion has played a role in our lives, divorce, shedding our ego and so much more. Connect with Lena: IG:@iamlenafranklin Website: www.lenafranklin.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Hey y'all don't forget to check out the newly launched Coachable U School of Self Mastery and Conscious Leadership @ https://coachable-llc.mykajabi.com/foundations and join our community of students!Also, please head over to your social media channels and tag @CoachToriGordon when you share this episode! More information via my website @ https://www.torigordon.com/This week's guest is the incredible Lena Franklin!Lena is a Modern Medicine Woman in the form of Transpersonal Psychotherapist, Spiritual Teacher and Transformational  Speaker, offering the ancient practices of meditation, energy medicine, psychospiritual healing and soul work in an accessible way for a modern lifestyle.  Formally trained and deeply spiritually-attuned, Lena is dedicated to guiding others on a journey towards inner peace, emotional balance and a felt sense of liberated wholeness, through radical acceptance and Lovingkindness, as we transform our suffering into strength.  Raised in a hybrid Buddhist/Christian home, Lena was introduced to meditation as a young child and now integrates Eastern philosophy with Western neuroscience in her practice. Lena founded the BEING Method and the Meditation Membership ~ practical tools with a loving community to bring one home to oneself.  She's been featured on Bravo, Lifetime, the cover of Yoga Magazine, and in The NY Times, Telegraph, World Travel Magazine and more. Visit her website to learn more about her practice and schedule of meditation journeys, transformative workshops, corporate and continuing education offerings: www.lenafranklin.comYou can find Lena on all social channels @iamlenafranklin

Lena Franklin is a transpersonal psychotherapist, modern medicine woman, transformational speaker, and founder of the Being Method and the Meditation Membership program. Lena has been featured in the New York Times, World Travel Magazine, Modern Luxury, Luxury Travel Magazine, Shape Magazine, and more. She currently has her own column with Yoga Magazine and leads international mindful travel retreats through Pravassa. In this conversation Lena talks about her journey of becoming a "modern medicine woman" and the ways in which she integrates meditation and energy work with psychotherapy. She sheds light on the science behind energy work and the stigma that still exists in Western culture around shamanic healing. Connect with us! If you have any questions or would like to hear us dive into any subjects on future episodes, e-mail us at info@TSBPodcast.com. IG: https://www.instagram.com/thespace_betweenpodcast

Offering the ancient practices of mindfulness and meditation utilizing a fresh, modern voice is the essence of Lena's work. As a Mindfulness-Based Psychotherapist, International Spiritual Teacher and Speaker, Lena will teach you that “to journey in inward is your highest calling.” Lena earned both her Bachelors of Science in Psychology and Masters of Social at the University of Georgia. As a licensed clinical social worker, Lena integrates Eastern philosophy with Western neuroscience. Lena's holistic healing work is grounded in Buddhist Psychology, Mindfulness Meditation, LifeForce Yoga and Insight Yoga in addition to psychodynamic foundations. Today, Lena has a mindfulness business based in Atlanta, GA where she sees individual clients, provides mindfulness corporate trainings, teaches personal growth workshops and guides meditation retreats around the globe. Lena is also the Head of Mindfulness for Welzen, a mindfulness meditation app featuring practices and programs to enhance your health and happiness. Raised in a hybrid Buddhist/Christian household, Lena was introduced to meditation as a young child. Today, this mindfulness foundation has grown into a deep passion to guide others on a journey towards inner peace, emotional balance and a felt sense of wholeness. Lena has been featured in various media outlets including the New York Times, Modern Luxury and World Traveler magazines. Please visit her website to learn more about her practice and schedule of wellness trips, retreats, and continuing education offerings: www.lenafranklin.com.   We dove deep in this conversation and talked about Lena losing her mother and how she connects with her on the other side. We also discussed ways to stay present and use this time at home to go within and shed layers not serving you anymore. Here are some of the main take-aways: 1. Ask yourself how can you live differently? What is wanting to be let go of and released, both habit patterns, routines and thoughts? 2. Use the 3 A's, a portable mindfulness practice to use anywhere. The first A stands for acknowledge. Acknowledge your uncomfortable feelings first. The second A stands for Accept. Breathe in acceptance and you might say to yourself: 'My darling, may I accept that this is part of my awareness right now?' The third A is for Alternative Action. You get to choose a new action rather than yelling, slamming a door or losing your cool. Come up with new actions you can take like focusing on your breath, taking a quick walk or time out, to rewire and shift your pattern. 3. Speak to yourself in compassionate loving words like you would with a child, such as calling yourself beloved, my darling, sweetie, etc. It might feel weird at first, but over time it will feel loving and kind.   Additionally, Lena led a beautiful bonus mindfulness meditation that incorporated grounding yourself and connecting to the present moment. Enjoy!    Connect with Lena Franklin WEBSITE:  https://www.lenafranklin.com/ FACEBOOK:  https://www.facebook.com/iamlenafranklin TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/iamlenafranklin INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/iamlenafranklin/ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSWnzoAXN9OARf6QSOufCtA   Enjoying the show? For iTunes listeners, get automatic downloads and share the love by subscribing, rating & reviewing here!   *Share what you are struggling with or looking to transform with Julie at podcast@juliereisler.com. Julie would love to start covering topics of highest interest to YOU. Please also let us know if you are interested to be a guest on her show to discuss where you are stuck, and do live coaching with Julie on her podcast.   Join host Julie Reisler, author and multi-time TEDx speaker, each week to learn how you can tap into your best self and become your You-est You® to achieve inner peace, happiness and success at a deeper level! Tune in to hear powerful, inspirational stories and expert insights from entrepreneurs, industry thought leaders, and extraordinary human beings that will help to transform your life. Julie also shares a-ha moments that have shaped her life and career, and discusses key concepts from her book Get a PhD in YOU Here's to your being your you-est you!    You-est You Links: Subscribe to the Podcast  Learn more at JulieReisler.com Become a Sacred Member at The School of Sacredology Join The You-est You® Community for Soul Seekers on Facebook Book Julie as a speaker at your upcoming event Amazon #1 Best selling book Get a PhD in YOU Download free guided-meditations from Insight Timer Julie's Hungry For More Online Program (10 Module Interactive Course)

In this episode, we speak with Lena Franklin, an Atlanta-based psychotherapist and meditation teacher. Lena's work intersects Buddhist philosophy, transpersonal psychology, meditation, mindfulness, and yoga philosophy. We'll be talking with Lena about twin flame relationships, the middle path, and how to attract the person you're looking to bring into your life through mindfulness practices.

Lena Franklin, is a mindfulness-based psychotherapist, meditation instructor and speaker out of Atlanta. From a young age she was infused with mindfulness and meditation based practices through her Buddhist mother. But it wasn't until when she was in grad school, when her mother passed, did she undergo a spiritual awakening. In this conversation, Lena shares her story of doing the inner-work, facing her fears with vulnerability and courage, and discovering what was at her core. www.powerlunch.live 

In this episode I speak with Mindful Psychotherapist Lena Franklin!

What's one thing you want in your life that you aren't letting yourself have? However big our small, our desires often get put to the wayside and we don't give ourselves permission to feel, have, or pursue the things we truly want. In this short but sweet (no pun intended) episode about the ice cream bar that made Tallia cry - yes, true story - she encourages us to do more of what makes us happy, indulge in the simple pleasures of life, and go for the double scoop. Upcoming Events: The Realign Retreat at Serenbe September 14th co-hosted with Lena Franklin and Darrah Brustein to step away from the busyness of life and recenter yourself. Rebel Women Breakfast on September 12th for a panel discussion about equal pay and equal wealth at The Lola. To join the January waitlist of the Inner Work Circle, head over here! If you're ready to make more money, email us at sincerelymepodcast@gmail.com for more information about the upcoming 4-week negotiation training for 4 lucky listeners!

Hilariously reliving their high school glory days, Tallia and dear friend Roshani Chokshi reconnect to discuss Roshani's path toward becoming a NY Times best-selling author (and the moment she found out she made the list!). Roshani shares about the decision to quit law school to pursue her passion, then takes us into the realities of being a writer, developing a creative process, managing the pressure to please, and creating her own roadmap for success. With a lot of laughs, they also manage to embarrassingly share their senior superlatives and middle school AIM screen names...you don't want to miss it.  For more from Roshani and to get her books, head over to her website. --- Updates from Tallia: - The Inner Work Circle is officially FULL! To join the January 2020 cohort, add your name to the waitlist. - Get your ticket to Fierce Love, a 4 part workshop series to revise your relationship to fear and strengthen your relationship to self-love with Tallia and Lillian Charles in Atlanta starting August 26th. Only 5 spots left! - Join us at The Realign Retreat, a day to pause, reflect and recenter with yourself alongside Tallia, Darah Brustein, and Lena Franklin at Serenbe. You can find more from Tallia on instagram @talliadeljou and contact us at sincerelymepodcast@gmail.com!

"There is more to life than merely increasing its speed." - Gandhi. Feeling caught up in the speed of life, desperate for a chance to slow down and catch a breath? Join the club. In this week's episode, Tallia discusses the importance of creating natural rhythms of work and rest, sharing practical tools to integrate intentional rest into your daily life, even if all you have is 10 seconds to spare. She closes the episode with a brief mindfulness meditation rooted in sensory experience and awareness of breath. Looking for a full day of rest and renewal? Join Tallia, Darrah Brustein and Lena Franklin for the Realign Retreat on September 14th. Details here. References: Sabbath, by Wayne Muller See you on the 'gram, folks. xx, Tallia

Lena Franklin is a mindfulness-based psychotherapist, meditation instructor and speaker out of Atlanta. From a young age she was infused with mindfulness and meditation based practices through her Buddhist mother. But it wasn't until when she was in grad school, when her mother passed, did she undergo a spiritual awakening. In this conversation, Lena shares her story of doing the inner-work, facing her fears with vulnerability and courage, and discovering what was at her core. Tune in, as Lena and I also discuss the significance of connecting with the heart to heal, the power and simplicity of presence in our daily lives, and all things soul consciousness. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

As a mindful psychotherapist, Lena Franklin has a unique vision and mission. By teaching the art of mindfulness and meditation, Lena integrates the most beautiful and inspiring travel destinations into her work to help others heal and experience a destination in a completely unique way. She has developed an internationally recognized mindfulness-based business where she sees individual clients, guides mindfulness retreats, teaches yoga and meditation trainings and provides personal growth workshops. She's the head of mindfulness for Welzen App and serves as an international spiritual teacher and leader on retreats for Pravassa. She's passionate about the power of travel to enable our own healing and to help bring a deeper peace to us. In this episode, we walk through her personal and professional story to integrate East and West for her own healing -- plus how we can all integrate more mindful practices while traveling to get a deeper experience with a destination.     EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: What is mindfulness healing The transformative power of presence & how travel consistently allows us to feel that What we stand to gain from the disruption of routine when we travel The scientific reasons why travel helps change and heal us How we can incorporate presence into our travel to experience any trip or destination at a deeper level How to make your travel more intentional (and enjoyable!) Wellness travel with Lena: what a Pravassa trip with Lena looks like Why is this trend of wellness travel & mindful travel growing? BONUS: Lena walks us through a quick guided meditation session (finish the episode... so worth it!)   

Join Tallia and dear friend Lena Franklin, mindfulness-based psychotherapist and meditation teacher, for this episode on finding strength in suffering. They discuss turning inward as our highest calling, honoring all parts of ourselves no matter how painful, and holding space for negative emotions to see what lessons they hold for us. Lena also shares strategies for how to stay present in discomfort and find light in our darkest moments.    To learn more about Lena’s upcoming wellness retreat, head over to lenafranklin.com and check out her work on instagram @mindful_healer.   More from Tallia at talliadeljou.com and on instagram @talliadeljou! 

Alyce Wellons, LCSW and Lena Franklin, LCSW. Discuss How, When and Why: Using mediation, yoga and body based modalities to assist in Addiction Treatment and Recovery, with Dr. Blank.