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Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss key takeaways from the latest Global Inflation monitor and the impact of tariffs on inflation in the US and the rest of the world. After a broad-based upside surprise in January, core inflation has shown a similar widespread moderation. The US CPI data show limited impact from tariffs through March, but we look for core inflation to jump to a 6%ar this quarter and next. At the same time, inflationary impulses in the rest of the world appear tilted to the downside; a pullback in US front-loading demand along with a decoupling of US-China trade should put downward pressure on goods prices as excess supply is redirected elsewhere. Absent a meaningful retaliation, we see core inflation outside the US moderating to 2.5-3%ar over 2H25. This podcast was recorded on April 30, 2025. This communication is provided for information purposes only.  Institutional clients can view the related reports at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4966015-0 https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4956489-0 https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4960640-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures  for important disclosures. © 2025 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Nora Szentivanyi is joined by Greg Fuzesi and Michael Hanson to discuss the key takeaways from our latest Global Inflation Monitor and inflation risks stemming from higher tariffs . While there are reasons to fade elements of the January upside inflation surprise, global core inflation remains stuck at a 3% pace and we have nudged our 1Q25 forecast upward to 3.4%ar. Moreover, headline inflation has firmed to a 3.7%ar over the past three months after a slide to 2.6%ar over the prior six months. Tariffs are likely to add to inflation in the near-term, but medium-term inflation pressures should tilt lower due to the associated drags on sentiment.  Euro area underlying inflation remains on track to moderate to 2% as weak demand looks to be weighing on corporate pricing power, while declining wage inflation fades cost pressures. US inflation appears moderately more sticky and a recent pop in some measures of inflation expectations point to a more gradual pace of disinflation.  This podcast was recorded on March 04, 2025. This communication is provided for information purposes only.  Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4920790-0 ,  https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4921610-0 , https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4925120-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2025 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Michael Hanson and Murat Tasci, of the US Economics team, discuss their latest Research Note on the challenges for meeting the many disparate objectives of the Trump tariffs, and what that might mean for tariff revenues.   Speakers: Michael Hanson, Senior US and Canadian Economist Murat Tasci, Senior US Economist   This podcast was recorded on March 3, 2025. This communication is provided for information purposes only. Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4921610-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2025 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Michael Hanson, senior US and Canadian economist, and Gabriel Lozano, Head of Mexico Economics, discuss their latest Research Note on the Trump administration's threatened 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico. They explore the motivations, risks for retaliation, potential economic implications, and consequences for USMCA.   This podcast was recorded on January 28, 2025. This communication is provided for information purposes only.  Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4894757-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2025 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Send us a textOur discussion with the Rare Candy about Michael Hanson's Mind Webs continues. We talk radio, podcasting, audio dramas vs audiobooks vs what Mind Webs is doing.Listen to Mind Webs here: https://archive.org/details/MindWebs_201410Normally, the Back Matter episode is paywalled, but we all feel so passionate about this stuff, we thought I should have it out in the world for free. Enjoy!To get access to the full archive, plus the special aftershow Back Matter, subscribe at http://www.patreon.com/GettingLitSupport the show

Phoebe White, Head of US Inflation Strategy, and Michael Hanson, senior US economist, discuss their latest thoughts on US trade policy and Fed independence, following what has been a busy first week for the new administration, and what to expect from next week's FOMC meeting. Yield curves are likely to flatten in the near term, supported by a narrowing in longer-run breakevens.   Speakers: Phoebe White, Head of US Inflation Strategy  Michael Hanson, Senior Economist  This podcast was recorded on January 24, 2025. This communication is provided for information purposes only. Institutional clients please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2025 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss their key takeaways from the October CPI reports and the outlook for the coming year. Global core inflation remained sticky at 3.1% both on a three-month annualized and year-ago basis, while headline inflation ticked higher to 2.9%oya. While the sectoral gap between services and goods is finally narrowing there is considerable country variation with respect to the strength of services inflation. The coming trade war is likely to temper global growth while adding to inflation. The timing and magnitude of the coming US policy shifts remain highly uncertain and should add to the variation in inflation outcomes.   This podcast was recorded on 26 November 2024. This communication is provided for information purposes only. Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4852504-0, https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4845587-0, https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4773721-0  for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2024 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Join Gregg Thomas as he speaks with Tucker Swanson, Jordan Stokes and Michael Hanson.  The Trio talks about reports from Lake Vermilion, Northwest Wisconsin and Metro Lakes.   www.thornebros.com www.battlethebeast.com www.stealthtackle.net  

Nora Szentivanyi, Michael Hanson and Raphael Brun-Aguerre discuss their takeaways from the July CPI reports and how the incoming data are shaping the outlook for global inflation and  monetary policy. Global inflation remains sticky at 3% with a 0.3% monthly core CPI gain in July. But a regional rotation is under way in which a greater easing in labor cost pressures and goods price declines are producing a pronounced slide in US core inflation. While US core CPI inflation eased to just 1.6%ar in the three months to July, Euro area core HICP rose at a 3.5%ar and EM core inflation (ex China, Turkiye and Russia)  reaccelerated close to 4%.   This podcast was recorded on Aug 22, 2024. © 2024 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

The MOT crew gets on a full line of guests to go around the horn and highlight a fishing trip that Phil Stodola, Kyle Hunsader and their good friend Jamie went on with Michael Hanson up in NW Wisconsin. Although this was the main objective, as you may have guessed this podcast goes derails all over the place and includes a "would you rather" segment that had some HOT n spicy takes. Muskies were totally talked about here.Tap in and crack a cold one because it's going to be a hot one this weekend!https://sugsfishing.com/

Send us a Text Message.This week on the show, we have former paratriathlon world champion, motivational speaker, and author Steve Judge. Tune in for a truly inspiring conversation as Steve shares the story of his accident and his remarkable journey to recovery, which ultimately led him to become a world champion athlete. Steve, now a motivational speaker and author, has written two books: his autobiography "Don't Lean on Your Excuses" and "GOLD," a book focused on the mindset needed to achieve winning.To find out more about Steve and the links discussed:Website: https://www.steve-judge.co.uk/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-judge-908293b1/ GOLD: https://www.steve-judge.co.uk/gold/ Don't Lean on Your Excuses: https://www.steve-judge.co.uk/dont-lean-on-your-excuses-2/ Podcast Chapters: 0:00 Intro 0:54 Introduction to Steve 3:54 Steve's Accident 9:31 How to identify excuses13:46 Physio after the accident22:50 Who helped Steve on his journey27:10 Becoming an elite athlete37:48 Steve's wave of resilience43:35 Steve's recent mental health52:52 Outro (Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Northern WI musky opener is upon us! We gathered two guests this week to talk about the other ends of the state that are opening for muskies: GB and Hayward/NW Wisconsin. Phil Stodola of the GB area joins us for the first time and gives the run down on temps and where the muskies should be for the bay itself and the tributaries. If you're fishing GB you won't want to miss this part! Phil also guides for Angler Sportfishing and has a YouTube/Facebook with the ever so popular "Pond Bait Demos" that you don't want to miss!Next up we have Michael Hanson on to talk about the northwestern section of Wisconsin and what those anglers should be looking for this weekend. Michael gives up some juicy tips on crankbaits and gliders that are sure to put more muskies in your net all parts of the year. Lastly, by now you have for sure realized one member was missing... Max's first pod missed! Oofda. That's okay. Gus and Brian held down the fort and chopped it up about their own tactics and thoughts on opener for more of the Eagle River/Minocqua area this weekend. Nuggets are dropped all throughout this one so be sure to tune in on your way up north and tap in!Goodluck to everyone on the water and we wish you a successful season!We hope you enjoy the Caddyshack cold open referring to Phil's pond bait demos!https://sugsfishing.com/

Join us for a captivating excerpt from Episode 62 of the Cosmic Bridge Podcast, featuring Drewe Broughton.In this episode, Drewe delves into the mindset and drive of sports personalities like Novak Djokovic and John Terry. He explores the reasons behind their behaviors and what these insights reveal about their approaches to performance and management.Podcast Chapters:00.00 Analysing the best2.50 Wellbeing movement 5.14 There's fallout from the winner9.30 How football has changed(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Unlock the secrets to living fully by embracing death positivity in our newest podcast episode featuring Jack Frimston. Jack, a former musician who once sought harmony through melodies.Now, as a death enthusiast, he shares insights on how understanding death can profoundly shape our lives. Join him and Michael as they delve into the transformative power of confronting mortality and cultivating a mindset of acceptance and appreciation for life's fleeting moments.Enjoy the show, subscribe and let us know what you think!Find out more about Jack:- Jack's LinkedIn: https://tinyurl.com/jptxf27zPodcast Chapters: 0.00 - Intro 0.46 - Trailer 5.10 - Becoming obsessed with death 15.20 - Living with monks 17.20 - Hallucinations while meditating 19.50 - Regrets of the dying 23.00 - Doing what you love 26.54 - Nihilism and Stoicism 35.10 - Appreciate the older people in your life38.40 - Becoming a father42.51 - How attitude to death can make you a better salesperson(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Nora Szentivanyi, Michael Hanson and Raphael Brun-Aguerre discuss their takeaways from the global CPI reports for March and how the incoming data are shaping the outlook for inflation and  monetary policy.    This podcast was recorded on April 24, 2024. This communication is provided for information purposes only.  Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4683349-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2024 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Sales and Your Dark Side, Your Shadow!How does Carl Jung's concept of the shadow show up in sales? What is the shadow? How can we use it to our advantage, and what do we need to be avoiding?Listen to a fascinating interview between leading speaker Steven D'Souza and Michael Hanson, where Steven asks Michael a whole host of insightful questions on where the concept of the shadow fits in with sales.As Carl Jung puts it, “The shadow is that hidden, repressed, for the most part inferior and guilt-laden personality whose ultimate ramifications reach back into the realm of our animal ancestors…It can now be ascertained on closer investigation that the unconscious man, that is his shadow, does not consist only of morally reprehensible tendencies, but also displays a number of good qualities, such as normal instincts, appropriate reactions, realistic insights, creative impulses."Enjoy the show, subscribe and let us know what you think!To find out more about Michael, Steven or the TedX Talks we mention:- Michael's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hanson-/- More about Steven: https://www.speakersassociates.com/speaker/steven-dsouza/- Steven's First TedX Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nshc-ay1p7A- Steven's Second TedX Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZOPKbBKh4oPodcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro to The Shadow4.28 - The Shadow and Sales10.04 - What Archetype Does a Salesperson Have?17.08 - Why Is Sales So Relevant to Everyone?22.47 - The COSMIC Bridge and Writing to People on Death Row31.09 - Debating People with Different Opinions36.00 - Outro(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Michael Hanson and Murat Tasci analyze the factors that can —and cannot — account for the growing divergence between payroll and household employment, including immigration    This podcast was recorded on 04/04/2024. This communication is provided for information purposes only. Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4659901-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2023 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss their takeaways from the latest CPI reports globally and how the incoming data are shaping the outlook for inflation and monetary policy.  Early 2024 data provide strong support for our view of a disinflation stall in 1H24. Global core CPI picked up to a 0.3%m/m sa pace in January-February, pushing our 1Q24 forecast to 3.4%ar. A phase of global goods price disinflation looks to have ended while service price inflation remains sticky. We expect core inflation to ease modestly to a roughly 3% pace next quarter. Less clear is the case for the step down in 2H24 and beyond which is not yet validated in global labor costs, short-term expectations or in recent signals from commodity markets.    Speakers Nora Szentivanyi, Economic and Policy Research Michael Hanson, Economic and Policy Research This podcast was recorded on 26 March 2024. This communication is provided for information purposes only. Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4658475-0 and https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4617757-0  for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2024 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.  

I must say at the outset that my time with Glenn Gow on this episode was incredibly enjoyable and I hope you find it the same. I love to learn as I have said to you many times and today I learned a lot. Glenn hails from Florida. He obtained colleges degrees in business and then spent much time in marketing and even some in sales. He worked with many large companies and especially with their CEOs. A few years ago he decided to help C suite level people by becoming a CEO coach where he could impart the many of years of experience he gained in the technology world. Glenn is absolutely a visionary in many ways. He and I talk a great deal about AI. I love Glenn's observations as he explains that AI is a tool, not a threat. Listen in and hear his reasoning. About the Guest: Glenn Gow is a CEO Coach, a Keynote Speaker on AI, and a Board Member The implications of AI for every single business are shocking. We're all rethinking how we work, and how we can transform our offerings with the power of AI. It's incredibly exciting, and a little terrifying on how to keep up. Glenn Gow is a CEO Coach, a Keynote Speaker on AI, and a Board Member. Glenn understands exactly what we, as leaders, need to harness this technology. Glenn will be helping us understand the implications for business, and how to harness this technology. You will walk away with an arsenal of information. Glenn is a sought-after speaker on AI and has spoken at The Wall Street Journal AI Conference, the National Association of Corporate Directors, MIT/Stanford Venture Lab, Harvard Business School, The Private Directors Association, Silicon Valley Directors Exchange, Financial Executives Networking Group, The Entrepreneur's Organization, and the Northern California Venture Capital Association. He writes an AI column for Forbes and has been published in Directors & Boards, Directorship (NACD), CIO Magazine, Inc. Magazine, and InfoWorld. As a CEO for 25 years, he advised numerous leading tech companies including Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and many more. Speaker Reel: https://bit.ly/SpeakerGlenn Ways to connect with Glenn: LinksWebsite: https://www.glenngow.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenngow About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hi there and welcome to another episode of unstoppable mindset. I am your host, Mike Hingson. And our guest today is Glenn Gow. And Glenn is a very knowledgeable soul regarding artificial intelligence. He is a board member he speaks on AI he is a coach. And I don't know what else and when he first joined this afternoon, I pulled an old joke that maybe a lot of you wouldn't know. We used to on television, watch commercials for Memorex tape, which was really good stuff. And when he came on, I said, the question we got to ask is, are we live? Or are we Memorex? Because that's a, a thing that Memorex did. And their point was, you couldn't tell the difference. I never bought that, though, because I could tell the difference. But the Max was pretty good, wasn't   Glenn Gow ** 02:11 it? It was, it was pretty good.   Michael Hingson ** 02:14 I actually still have some blank Memorex cassettes. So Oh, there you go. You're a collector. So Glenn, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here. Really happy   Glenn Gow ** 02:25 to be here, Michael. And thank you for the introduction. And I'm looking forward to the conversation.   Michael Hingson ** 02:30 And also Glenn is a board member will have to find out about that along the way as well. And that's board is in being on a board not being board. But you know what? So tell us a little about the the early Glenn growing up and all that sort of stuff?   Glenn Gow ** 02:45 Well, I grew up in a wonderful family that supported learning, Michael. And so everything we did was about becoming a little bit better than the way we were, whether it was being happier in life or being more productive or making better friends. And we were always thinking about how can we just be a little bit better. And the wonderful thing about that, is that turns you into a learning machine on any topic. So whether I'm coaching my CEOs, or I'm studying AI, I'm very, very interested in learning and becoming better. And so it's something that I learned at a very early age and it's become part of who I am.   Michael Hingson ** 03:31 Did you grow up in California? I grew up in Florida and Florida. Okay. Laura   Glenn Gow ** 03:39 eventually went to business school at Harvard. And then came out to California. Ah,   Michael Hingson ** 03:46 yeah, as we were talking about earlier, can't beat the weather. No, no. I think the absolute best weather is San Diego but you know, California in general has great weather.   Glenn Gow ** 04:01 I feel very spoiled, spoiled where I am in Northern California right now. So I have no complaints. We   Michael Hingson ** 04:06 lived in Novato for several for 12 years and in an area called Bell marine keys which was a community that was developed in the early 1970s They wanted to make it look like Venice, Italy. So every house is on a lagoon or a channel in between lagoons and either they have docks or their dock ready and it was so nice to be there. That sounds really nice. Yeah, we're far enough away from like highway 101 that you could hear it if you really worked at it at night and it were quiet no wind, but mostly it was just a nice wonderful community and we loved it a lot. Fantastic. So you you grew up in Florida and all that and really devoted your your life to learning so you got a business degree and then where did you go from from Harvard and getting I assume about Bachelor's in business?   Glenn Gow ** 05:02 A master's in business? Okay, yeah. And then the most important part of my history was I worked for a startup immediately after business school, which quickly failed, happens. And then well, that's an important very important learning process. And then lucky enough to work at Oracle when it was a relatively small company. And I worked, I was the first person in the marketing function within sales. In other words, I was doing both sales and marketing. And that was an incredible experience, as the company grew from fairly small to a billion dollars in revenue, which is tiny by, by today's standards, yeah. And then I stepped out to start my own company, where we focused on helping technology companies on marketing strategy. And so we had the opportunity to work with Apple, to work with Facebook, and Google, and Microsoft, and Oracle, and IBM and every large technology company. I did that for 25 years as a CEO. Now, importantly, Michael, during that time, I had a coach for 17 years. This was my co coach. And I knew a lot about business. And my co coach, interestingly enough, didn't really know all that much about business. But she did know something that I didn't know, which was the mind of the CEO, and the mental game, and how to become an even better CEO. So I take all of that experience, having run a company, and having been coach for so long. And I use that every day now. So I was lucky enough to be recruited into venture capital, after I ran the marketing consultancy. And that's when I started coaching CEOs, the CEOs of our portfolio companies, and having been through a startup that had failed before I could truly empathize with the life of CEOs. And then I took all of that coaching and business knowledge. And I found that CEOs really got value out of our conversations. So much so that I fell in love with that. And I've been doing that full time now for three years. Because a lot   Michael Hingson ** 07:28 of them, although they were CEOs, got into it, for whatever reason, but weren't necessarily as knowledgeable as they needed to be about being a CEO.   Glenn Gow ** 07:39 Exactly right. And as long as Michael, as long as they have that mindset, this is how I described it, the mindset is that every great athlete has a coach, and some of them have many coaches. And you ask yourself, Why does someone who's at the top of their game, have a coach, it's because it coach helps them become even better. And if you have that mentality, as a CEO, you are going to improve every day, if you put your mind into that process of improvement, and that's what I'm here to do with my CEOs?   Michael Hingson ** 08:14 And do you still have a coach,   Glenn Gow ** 08:18 I do not currently have a coach, I am looking for a coach. I have advisors. But here's something that's interesting, that you made me think about Michael, is that I coached 20 CEOs. That's about as many as I want to coach. And I learned something from them every time I coach them. Mm hmm. And so I want to share those best practices with my other CEOs. So I feel like even though I don't have a coach working directly with me, not right now. I'm learning every day through my interactions with my CEOs. And I'm able to share that information with all of them on what best practices I just heard about.   Michael Hingson ** 09:03 Yeah. And I would think that the best CEOs are people who, at least in part, adopt a learning mindset, because if you think you know it all, you'll sometime and maybe sometime soon, discover it isn't really that way.   Glenn Gow ** 09:20 Let me give you a statistic that I discovered when I was in venture capital. roughly 60% of CEOs get fired within a five year period in the venture backed world, and you ask yourself, why did they get fired? The simple answer is they're not growing the company fast enough. But then you say, why is the CEO not growing the company fast enough? It's because they are not growing themselves fast enough. In other words, when they became the CEO and the venture capitalists put money into them, they were probably the perfect person for that company at that time at that size. But as the company negros takes on new employees, new customers, new investors, it requires that the CEO have new skill sets, and improve skill sets in order to succeed with this company that's transforming. I call it scaling the CEO. Right? And that's what I do. I help the CEO become even better.   Michael Hingson ** 10:24 And that's an important thing to occur if you're dealing with people who are supposed to be the leaders of companies and the people who are either the visionaries for the company, or somehow promote and create whatever is necessary to create the visioning for the company.   Glenn Gow ** 10:46 That's right. Exactly. Right. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 10:49 Yeah. And, you know, I, I have said several times on this podcast that if I'm not learning at least as much as anybody else, listening to this podcast on any given episode, that I'm not doing my job, well, and I have been so value in my mindset of being able to learn from everyone who's been on board, it's in who's come on as guests. It's great. It's a lot of fun. And I get to learn a lot. And I can't complain about that a bit. Well, it's   Glenn Gow ** 11:18 a win win win.   Michael Hingson ** 11:19 It is, as far as I'm concerned, and I enjoy doing it. It's, it's so much fun. Well, so you've you've been doing the coaching process for at least a few years, have you become certified as a coach? Or do you just do it or what?   Glenn Gow ** 11:35 I am not certified, nor am I ever going to get certified. I look at my 17 years of training from my personal coach. As as as the as the experience of learning through that I don't, I don't, gosh, I just feel lucky to have had that experience. And don't feel like there's any value. For me personally, writing certification isn't good. But for me personally, it just doesn't make any sense. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 12:03 and I agree, I've, I've thought about that. Some people have suggested that I should explore doing more in the coaching world. And one of the ways I think that I could add value in the coaching world today is that is we have an aging population and a younger population dealing with an aging population. We don't have any really substantive all around coaches dealing with blindness and low vision, who can guide people so it is it is something that I've been looking at and seriously thinking about happening. I think it would be a fun thing. And I think it would be a valuable thing if we can give good suggestions to people and help them deal with something that we shouldn't have to deal with. But we but we do in the shouldn't have to is that society rose up and learns that blindness is a big, severe, serious problem. And the reality is, it's not blindness, it's people's attitudes about blindness, because people who happen to be blind or low vision, can do the same things other people just we may not do it the same way. And we also tend to make our world because there are a whole lot more sighted people than blind people, we make our world side oriented. But that still doesn't mean that blindness is the problem.   Glenn Gow ** 13:26 That's right. That's right. And that made me think, Michael for a moment about AI and and the current some of the current interfaces with AI. And I think there's an incredible opportunity for people to interact with AI purely on a voice basis. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 13:46 Well, and that's true, although we type as well. But the the issue is really the, the having the input that AI gets from wherever it gets and guide it to provide good output and good ways to help. Exactly. Yeah, which is what AI is all about. What got you started in really thinking about and becoming more of a mentor and proponent of AI?   Glenn Gow ** 14:18 Well, first of all, I described myself this way, I'm a I'm an expert in AI at a niche, which is the sea level. So I'm an expert in talking about AI to to CEOs and the board. So I'm not going to talk about the technology. I'm gonna talk about the implications of the technology, right? Started, Michael was one of the great things about working in venture capital is that you can predict the future. You can predict the future because it's walking in the door every day in the guise of entrepreneurs who are telling you all the trends that are coming together and how they're going to take advantage of those trends. And when you see that 20th person walking In the door and talk to you about AI before it's being used anywhere, you can say I see something coming in our direction. And that's when I dove in. And that's when I said, I need to deeply understand the implications of what's happening here. And so I got very, very excited about it. Because, look, we all live through technology innovations. But AI is different from every other technology innovation. And the reason it's different is that it learns. And sometimes it learns all by itself. What does that mean? What does that mean is it means that it creates a flywheel effect. If it starts learning about your customers and your market and your products. And you feed it more data, it gets smarter all by itself. And that flywheel gets spinning and you progress, you gain market share, you gain revenue, you gain more insights. And if your competitors aren't doing that, they're using some other kind of technology. You're gonna leave them in the dust, they will not be able to catch up to you because of that flywheel because it's learning and getting better. Constantly.   Michael Hingson ** 16:16 Yeah, my first exposure to AI goes back to well, it's more learning, but it is still ai 1975 1976 with Dr. Ray Kurzweil, oh, well, and Ray's first development, his first invention was the Kurzweil Reading Machine for the blind. Well, first was Omni font, optical character recognition. And he chose as his first application to make a machine that would be able to scan any, and recognize any type or print or combination, I'm typing print fonts, but one of the things that Ray put into that machine was a learning feature. So the more that the machines scan, when I was reading a book, or anyone was reading a book, or anything that that was in print, the better the recognition was. And it did that all by itself. Amazing. And it was absolutely easy to see that happen over a few pages in a book. So I've been using and accepting the whole concept of machine learning, ever since that day, but of course, in the past several years, we've now seen AI go to incredibly whole new levels. And it's interesting, the the people who who are negative about it, and so on, I'm sitting here thinking, Alright, what, 30 years ago, or maybe 35, now we had the internet, or 30 years ago, we had the internet come along. And along with the internet, of course, there are the people who misuse it, and we have the dark web. And I think somebody should check out more of the dark web and see if it's accessible. And if not, we should sue some of those people. That'd be fun. But we have the dark web, and we don't get anywhere near although some people recognize the the problems with it. We don't get anywhere near the route from any of that, that we're getting from artificial intelligence today, which tells me people are starting to you know, they, they see the significance of it, but you know, we're dealing with a, with a world where people really aren't visiting it properly or visiting it enough?   Glenn Gow ** 18:34 Well, it's hard to predict what we're gonna see. And AI is just a tool, Michael, it didn't was that with any tool. It's going to be used for good and it could be used for bad. And so they're, they're bad people. And if they get hold of a tool, they're going to use that tool. And so we do need to be aware of that we do need to be concerned about that we need to ensure we have protections against that. Yep. Just like any tool. Yep. But the key thing is it's happening way faster than the experts ever predicted. And so what does that mean? That means that we as humans, need to move fast to keep up.   Michael Hingson ** 19:17 And we're dealing with, with a lot of change, and many people aren't used to changing or change happening that quickly. But it's the way it is.   Glenn Gow ** 19:26 Well, not only that, Michael, but most people don't like change.   Michael Hingson ** 19:30 No.   Glenn Gow ** 19:33 And if you don't like change, and change is happening and being part of the change requires you or enables you to be successful, then you're going to be left behind. So my favorite saying is AI is not going to take your job. A person who is using AI is going to take your job.   Michael Hingson ** 19:53 Yeah. And that's and that's something that makes perfect sense. And that's the way it will be but AI is ain't gonna do it. I don't see no matter how much AI learns, and can learn, there are things that people can do or have within them that are makeup that will allow them to continue to function and AI is not going to take over the world. It is not a Colossus The Forbin Project. Right? Right. And that was a good movie and a good book. But   Glenn Gow ** 20:27 the key is for us to ask ourselves, how do we get the most out of this tool. And so I want to share with you a story one of my CEOs shared with me Remember, I talked about sharing best practices from what I learned. So I'm a big proponent of AI, in that it holds tremendous value for companies of all kinds in all industries of all sizes. And so I'm encouraging my CEOs to do more in this area, so that they get a competitive advantage. One of my CEOs stood up at an all hands meeting in the company and said, I'm going to create an AI mandate, starting today. And for the next month, every single employee needs to use AI every day for a month. Now, I don't care what you do with AI, I don't care if what you do doesn't work. What I want is all of us to learn about AI. And so after a month, what I want each of you to do is report to your manager, what did you learn, because we're going to learn about the things that it doesn't do very well. We're going to learn about the things it does extraordinarily well. And then we're going to figure out how to leverage this tool so that we all can be more productive. I thought that was a brilliant way to introduce, because it's okay to fail is what the CEO was saying, and figure out your own experiments. And what came out of that was a whole slew of opportunities that no one imagined that AI could do. So the accounting department figured out, hey, I can write macros in my spreadsheet. Well, that's not what we knew when we when we began this experiment. And yet now we know we can do that.   Michael Hingson ** 22:21 And we can use it and speed up the process.   Glenn Gow ** 22:25 Exactly, exactly. And so many learnings, like that. And now this company is a highly innovative way of thinking about everything, and is going to do extremely well compared to their competitors, because they're embracing this amazing tool.   Michael Hingson ** 22:40 I've used chat GPT to help write some articles. Although I, I generate like five or six versions, and then I put them together, and then I add my own stuff to it. Because AI doesn't guess the saralee get everything well. But, of course, that's the case. But still, it has sped the process up so much. But it goes back to me giving it the right parameters to work with.   Glenn Gow ** 23:11 Exactly. And Michael give you a little tip. So when you think about interacting with a large language model, you want to you want to think about being in a dialogue with it. Not that you give it a prompt and hope for a good result. Right? You You work hard on the prompt, and it comes back with a result and it's okay to say that wasn't very good. Yeah, I think you missed a few major points. And you completely missed that I wanted this to have a perspective on the following. Yeah. It'll say, Gee, Michael, I'm sorry about that. I'm gonna go do another version of it. And so then we're just talking about writing a blog post here, let's say so let's, let's say it comes back with a one. That's it's pretty good now. All right, we'll say hey, that's pretty good. Now, what you can do is you can give it a prompt that lays out Michael Hanson's writing style. Michael likes to write in the following kind of prose, and he likes to use adjectives and active verbs, and he likes to use bullets, and he likes to use speak at a college level, and you can give it your style, so it'll take the output it created for you, and then it'll sound a lot more like Michael. Mm hmm. And then that's a good time to sit back and edit it, because you've already done a lot of the work through the prompting.   Michael Hingson ** 24:39 And it's all happened a lot faster than I would ever do it on my own. Absolutely.   Glenn Gow ** 24:44 Oh, I'll give you one more tip. So I created my style prompt. Right when I want to tell a large language model I want you to write like Glenn Gao. You know how I created this style prompt? Oh, I asked chit chat GPT Ready to do it for me? Here's all my writing. Now go evaluate my writing and tell me how you would describe my style.   Michael Hingson ** 25:12 How do you get bought on whether that's a good question for here, but I'll ask anyway, how do you show it your writing? There, there are aspects of, of the, of Chet GPT. And so on that I have to figure out how to do yet because it's not as accessible as it really could be. So I don't know how,   Glenn Gow ** 25:32 yeah, and so I won't, I won't spend a lot of time on it, because it's fairly complex. But you have to choose your best writing, you have to put it into a document and you probably are going to give it to a large language model that isn't Chachi btw that can read large documents, got it and then get the output from there. Okay, it's not easy to get there. But once you get there, now you have your style guideline.   Michael Hingson ** 25:55 And you can save that. Yeah, yeah. I presume you can save that and then tell it to use it again. When you next you Right,   Glenn Gow ** 26:02 exactly. Right. Yeah. So anyway, a little tips there. But that's just one small drop in this bucket of this amazing tool that is available to us.   Michael Hingson ** 26:11 Yeah. And it and it's only gonna get better. And it is so cool that it's there and does the things that it does. What is we're starting to hear more about this whole thing, this whole concept of generative AI, what does that?   Glenn Gow ** 26:25 Well, that's what we've been talking about generative AI, and that's where it generates. It fits within the world of large language models, and, and other models. And so let me back up a second and define it this way. So for almost seven years, we had what I'll call traditional AI. That still exists. And that's still actually even more important than generative AI, it's gonna have a bigger impact on the economy than generative AI. But generative AI is very, very new, we'll call it roughly two years old. And it creates content of various types. And I think the most impactful well, okay, the traditionally AI is much more about predicting outcomes, whereas generative actually creates outcomes for you. I think the greatest impact in the generative AI side is not going to be in language, it's not going to be in pictures, it's going to be in code, somewhere development code. And the reason I think the greatest impact is going to happen here is, Michael, if you get really good at writing articles, or blog posts, using a large language model, you might get, I don't know a few 1000 people to read what you've written. But if your team or if your team writes code, and it goes into a product, you might have millions of people. Now using something that was created using generative AI is going to be an enormous impact on the software development world, it's already starting.   Michael Hingson ** 28:05 And that makes sense. Well, and look, I think a lot of people don't know it. But the whole concept of AI was very actively used in developing as I understand that the mRNA vaccines for COVID. I believe that's true. I've heard I can't remember where I heard that. But I heard it from what I regard as a reliable source, as I recall.   Glenn Gow ** 28:28 No, it's very true, because that's more in the traditional AI realm. Yeah, where you feed the AI a lot of data and AI can see patterns in data that humans simply can't see. There's too much data, our brains aren't wired to see patterns in data. And AI can see patterns. And it could suggest particular experiments you might run based on the patterns it sees. Yeah, and that's one of the great things it's for. So in drug discovery, Michael, there's, there's a product. It's created by a division of Google called Deep Mind. And this product is called Alpha fold two. And what it does is something that I don't fully understand, because I'm not a scientist or a biologist. It does something called protein folding. So what is protein folding going to do for us? It's going to help cure diseases is what it's going to do. And this is a scientific problem that has existed for forever. Until within the last year or so. Google solved the problem using AI of protein folding. And what it does is it just opens up the ability for people, for scientists to develop new drugs and new protocols and new ways of looking at our DNA to cure diseases. And so we haven't we don't hear much about this yet, because we don't interact with something called Alpha. Fold two, we can't it's too complex. It's not an area we understand. But when it starts curing diseases, we're going to start paying attention to what's happening in the pharma world, in the healthcare world in the scientific world.   Michael Hingson ** 30:14 And, you know, the reality is, no matter what the downsides, in terms of bad actors who do things with AI, there are so many more people who will do good things with it. And it is still very well, and it probably always will be, but it's it is very much an evolutionary process. And we're new to the whole process. That's right.   Glenn Gow ** 30:38 That's right. And we have to think of it too. There are a lot of races happening here. Michael, I talked one about one race being the flywheel effect race, where I'm, I'm in on a business and I'm competing with other individual companies to be successful. So I need to take advantage of what AI can offer to me so that I can get into that flywheel improvement, continual improvement cycle and beat my competitors. That's one race we have. We have another race against at the at the at the national level, we have a race against China. China, has committed to becoming a world leader in AI. I don't know that we've actually stated that in the United States. And yet we are today the world leader in AI. And the question is, who is going to come out ahead? Yeah. So there's a race. And we have to, we have to be aware of that race and understand that race, there's a third race, which is against hackers. So one of the interesting things about the large language model world here is that we have tools like chat GPT, the most popular one and the most advanced one, which is called closed source software. But Mehta, the company formerly known as Facebook, Facebook, has released open source software models, when you release open source software, that means anybody in the world so North Korea can use it, around can use it, a hacker in their basement in New Jersey can use it to do things that we wish they weren't doing. And so given that this is the world we live in, if you're running a company, you need to ensure that the vendors you hire in the world of cybersecurity are on the cutting edge of AI and using the latest AI technologies to help prevent what the bad guys are trying to do with the latest AI technologies.   Michael Hingson ** 32:47 It's very much like anything in the in the hacking world, we need to make sure that we have bright people and people who are not only bright enough, but are forward looking enough to anticipate and figure out what the hackers might do to be able to make sure that we put safeguards into the system as best as we can, as best as we can. And when somebody isn't totally successful at that, because somebody on the other side comes out with something more clever. We learn from it, which is also part of the process. Exactly right. And then we use AI to figure out how to fix it.   Glenn Gow ** 33:30 We are definitely going to do more and more than agree with that.   Michael Hingson ** 33:34 Yeah. You know, it's it's always interesting and pertinent to ask questions like, what do we do about AI producing inaccurate information? But you know, I think that really ultimately comes from it depends on the information we give it, doesn't it? Well, let   Glenn Gow ** 33:56 me answer your question. slightly differently. Okay. So there is this thing, as you know, called hallucination where AI might give us the wrong answer. This happens, by the way, only in generative AI does not happen in traditional AI. Because we're not asking traditional AI to, to make anything up. In generative AI, we are actually asking it to make something up. We're asking it to write something or build something that hadn't existed before. And so it has a hallucination problem. So there are two ways around this. Well, I'll say three ways around this. There are certain things where we don't really care if AI makes something up. Let's say Spotify, is using AI to predict the next song that I want to hear. I don't care if Spotify makes a mistake, right? I just happen to hear a song that maybe isn't my favorite as a result. There's no risk factor here. But the minute I step into the world of making Have something that has some risk to it, we need a human in the loop. A human must be involved in making the ultimate decision about what we're going to publish or what code we're going to write or what we're going to what strategy we're going to take on. So you have a human in the loop, sometimes you have you human deeply in the loop. Because there's, there's there's a lot of potential danger associated with this. Like, should we fire a missile or something? Or we have a little bit of a human in the loop? Like, should I publish this blog post said, Shut up Tejas wrote the answers usually no, don't do that. But, but, and there's one other factor. So if you're using a large language model, and you're asking it to do some research, you ask it, or you tell it, you say, and I want you to point me to the source of the information. Now, this is important, because it'll make up sources. Sometimes Michael, it'll say, Oh, here's the source, ha, ha, ha, it's not really a source, it doesn't really say, this is the source of information, they just made it up or the LLM made it up. So instead, by taking a combination of having the human in the loop, and having the source, then the human can go to the source and validate. Yeah, that the large language module model actually did the research and came back with an answer for you that is valid. And now you can make a decision based on that. And   Michael Hingson ** 36:30 the other thing that, again, comes to mind is that hopefully, interacting with the LLM, and dealing with correcting sources and so on, it learns along the way, and over time, maybe you won't make as many mistakes.   Glenn Gow ** 36:47 I think that's true. It is happening now with the models because there is human feedback involved. So it's, it's getting better and better. But it may be the case that we never get to perfection here. Yeah. But you know what? Humans aren't perfect either. And so well, we just needed to get to be a little bit better than humans.   Michael Hingson ** 37:11 Yeah, no, we've got a, we've got to continue to grow.   Glenn Gow ** 37:17 Precisely, yeah. How   Michael Hingson ** 37:19 do we deal with the biases and all the negative things that people say about AI and things that are clearly not true? And very frankly, to me, some of it comes from the political side of things, because people promote fear way too much. But how do we deal with that? Well,   Glenn Gow ** 37:42 so I heard the word bias in your question, and I have I have an answer, maybe about that. But tell me what can you give me an example of what you're you're asking about so I can be more precise?   Michael Hingson ** 37:51 Oh, I'm just thinking of we, we hear so many people saying how bad AI is and we should really not only have better governor's on him, we shouldn't allow it. Kids use it to cheat. It's bad. We shouldn't have it. Well, and it comes from? Yeah, some kids do. There's a challenge there. But anyway, go ahead.   Glenn Gow ** 38:16 Well, let's just use that example, Mike. Okay. So it has to do with being creative about how do you manage change. So I'm going to use an example of a Wharton professor, his name is Ethan Moloch. He's a wonderful person to follow if you want to look him up. He's a leader in thinking about AI and how it applies both in the academic world and the business world. So he, like I said, he teaches a business course at Wharton. And so one day he gets up in front of the class. And he says, Okay, we're all going to write a paper. I don't know what the paper was about. Not important. No, I'm going to ask all of you to write a paper. And I'm going to insist that all of you use chat GPT. And the class is like standing up and clapping and like, oh my god, this is amazing. Because what used to take me four hours is gonna take me 30 minutes now. But he wasn't done. Yeah. And I'm going to ask you to defend every line in the paper. Yep. And so they are suddenly realized that they needed to understand what this tool was telling them and they needed to believe it and validate it. So they are actually learning more than they would learn without ChaCha btw because it's providing all this information that they need to go it's almost like they're it's pointing to here are the important things you need to go learn. It's not about writing the paper. It's about the learning. Yeah. And I thought that was incredibly brilliant to embrace AI so that his students become better at what he said. asking them to do it, which is to think about business problems in a certain way. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 40:04 well, and I, the first time I was talking with someone about chat GPT, and they were talking about how kids cheat, and so on. And cheese, well, with some people true. And some people, it's probably too strong a term, but how kids are using it and not doing it on their own. I immediately said, This is an incredible teaching opportunity. What the teachers need to start to do is to not fear, the artificial intelligence, but rather uses as an opportunity to say to the students, okay, and the way we're going to grade your papers is that you're going to have to defend it. And you're going to have to tell me, what is in the paper? And why you say what you say? Yeah. And I think that makes perfect sense. It's in and I don't know whether that's more work for teachers, it can be time consuming. But it's an opportunity to really change a lot of our teaching models, which is great.   Glenn Gow ** 41:06 Exactly. Right. Exactly. Right. And if teachers are smart, they should use AI to help them build their curriculum, and build what it is they're going to teach and how they're going to teach it. Because AI is a fantastic tool for that. And   Michael Hingson ** 41:23 if school administrators were smart, they would encourage it. That's right. Which is another story entirely. By but you know, it's a process. But I but I really think that it offers so much of an incredible opportunity to vastly improve teaching that, how can you argue with that? But   Glenn Gow ** 41:46 well, let's, let's take what you just said, Michael Fullan. And apply that statement vastly improved teaching to the work world? Yeah. So if I'm running a company, I have people who know some things and people who don't know some things in my company. And I want everyone to know as much as they possibly can, so they can make better decisions. AI is one of the mechanisms to help me get there very quickly. So when one of my favorite phrases, is the head of HR is talking to the CEO, and the head of HR says, gosh, you know, I don't know if we should train all these people. What if we train them and they leave the company? And the CEO says, What if we don't train them, and they stay at the company? So this is a tool for training for teaching for learning for every employee. And every CEO is going to benefit if he if that CEO can get the employees learning by using this incredible tool. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 43:02 Isn't that cool? Yeah, very cool. And it makes perfect sense. Well, you know, so again, in general, I asked the question before about bias. But is the bias really against AI? Or is it against change?   Glenn Gow ** 43:22 It's a bit of a complicated question. So yeah. So think of it this way. If you build a large language model, and there are only a small number of companies in the world who can build large language models, because it's very, very, very expensive to do. So. What you do if you're open AI, let's say or your anthropic is another company. X is another company, pi is another company, or if you're going to build a large language model, you do something, which is you put guard rails on that. Because you don't want bias inside of those guardrails. And yeah, when you lay down the guardrails, the human who's laying down the guardrails has some bias, Michael, why because they're human. So you might have one large language model that leans a little bit to the left and another one that leans a little bit to the right, and that's based on the people who designed it. And so you could argue that every large language model has some bias built into it purely because humans built in. Hmm. And then you get to choose though, which largely language model do you want to work with whether it's chat CBT, or Claude from anthropic or many others.   Michael Hingson ** 44:44 But a lot of the bias at least that I'm that I'm thinking of, and a lot of people probably think of when they hear this discussion is people are just prejudiced against the whole concept of AI. And I think that yeah,   Glenn Gow ** 44:56 I don't I don't hear that very much. Okay. hear people hungry, I hear people who are hungry to learn more. That's great. So maybe you're hearing by us that I don't hear well, I, you know,   Michael Hingson ** 45:10 probably from different sources. And I've watched enough TV to to observe things, and I've heard negative things. But I'm not hearing nearly as much fear about AI, as I did a year ago.   Glenn Gow ** 45:25 Oh, interesting.   Michael Hingson ** 45:28 And maybe it's just people aren't talking about it. But you know, go ahead. Well, maybe people are   Glenn Gow ** 45:34 beginning to understand it better. That's usually why you might see reduction in fears people begin to understand that. This is why humans are not good at change. Typically, they fear the future, they fear, they're not going to fit into the future. They fear that I can understand that future. But once you start to step into the future, you realize, oh, no, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Maybe it's even good. Yeah. And so that's probably why you're seeing that reduction in fear.   Michael Hingson ** 46:03 We as a society, and as a race, tend to fear a lot more than we ought to. Because we've we decided that we're afraid of one thing or another. And most of the things that we're afraid of never really happen anyway.   Glenn Gow ** 46:20 Exactly. So that's a skill all unto itself. Yes. Why am I focused on something that hasn't happened? isn't likely to happen. And I probably be okay. If it did happen, I'm probably going to be fine. And yet we do tend, we can tend to go there. It's your training of the mind, Michael, this comes back to I'm glad you brought it up. This comes back to one of the concepts I have, in my my coaching of CEOs is, how do you look at the world? Do you look at the world from a fear perspective? Or do you look at the world from an opportunity perspective, we can look at the exact same thing. And come up with a different outcome or a different way of thinking about I'll give you a funny example. A funny example. A shoe company sends a shoe salesman to a country in the desert, to go sell shoes. And the shoe salesman shows up. And he immediately emails back to headquarters and says I'm never going to be successful here. No one wear shoes here. And so he has a failure mindset. So they bring it back. They send another salesman to the exact same location, immediately sends an email back to headquarters and says, Send me ship fulls of shoes. No one wear shoes here. Yeah. And about how are we choosing to perceive what's in front of us? Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 48:06 I, for a while ever since escaping from the World Trade Center, I've been talking about escaping and what I what I did, how I prepared for it. But never thought about the fact that with all the things that I learned about emergency preparedness, talking to fire people learning how to travel around the complex, not by reading science, of course, but by truly learning it. It created a mindset that said, You know what to do in an emergency, although at the time, I didn't think about it, but much later, I realized it. And I went oh, that is that's a good point. And then during the pandemic, I realized that while I've talked about not being afraid, I've not ever taught anyone how they can learn to control fear. And it's not to not be afraid, but rather to use fear as a powerful tool to help you. And so we've now written a book, it's called Live like a guide dogs stories from a blind man and his dogs about overcoming adversity, being brave, and walking in faith. And it's all about using information that I've observed and learned from a guy dogs and my wife service dog about different aspects of fear and learning to control fear and making it an add a positive attribute to have not an adversary. Well,   Glenn Gow ** 49:32 Michael, that sounds amazing is your How long is your book been out?   Michael Hingson ** 49:35 It isn't. This one is going to come out later in the year. I'll send you an email there. Oh, already been a couple of announcements about it. And it's available for pre order. So I will I will make sure that we put that also in the show notes again, but it's not out yet. But it's coming it'll be fun. I'd love to get your thoughts on it. And maybe when we start looking for people to review it I'll have to see if you'll look at it and Give us a review.   Glenn Gow ** 50:00 Fantastic. I'd love to be part of that.   Michael Hingson ** 50:02 So when we talk about AI, and just all the things that are going on, of course, some people talk about job loss or afraid of job loss, what do you think about that?   Glenn Gow ** 50:13 So I'm going to answer your question in a second. And I just want to suggest maybe this will be our last topic. Is that okay?   Michael Hingson ** 50:22 Only if it's an AI solution? Yeah, well, yeah. Well, so in resist,   Glenn Gow ** 50:30 look, job loss is a real thing. But I want to really frame how we think about this issue. So I want us to think about our jobs as being made up of tasks. Some people have lots and lots and lots of tasks. And some people have a smaller number of tasks that make up their job. AI is going to replace tasks. So if I have 100 tasks that I do every day, and AI can replace 30 of them, I'm going to be pretty happy about that. Because I'm going to be a lot more productive, and I can focus on the ones that I'm best at, and I'm gonna let ai do the things, it's best that but if my job is made up of a tiny number of tasks, let's say, I'm a long haul truck driver. And my task is to get the truck into the into the right lane and go for the next 1000 miles. My job's in danger, because the bulk of my work is associated with a small number of tasks that AI can take on. And so we want to ask ourselves, what what is our day look like? And how many things can be taken over by AI? And how can we embrace them. So there will, there will be three things that happen, there will be new jobs created by AI, the bulk of people will be impacted in a positive way, where they will use AI to be more effective, more efficient in their day, and they'll be able to get more done in a shorter period of time. And then there are some jobs that are going to go away, they're going to disappear. Because of this nature of they're made up of a small number of tasks. Yeah. And so you're running a company, you want to ask yourself, what do we do with that information? Do I think about the employees that I might not need in the future? Do I help them get training right now on this so that they recognize that their job may go away,   Michael Hingson ** 52:26 or you find other things for them to do or find other things   Glenn Gow ** 52:29 for them to do exactly. But in all cases, the market will cert will determine whether or not these jobs stick around or not, yeah, they'll be individual decision makers. Because if you're a competitor suddenly eliminates a bunch of jobs. Let's I'll use an example. Let's say you run a warehouse, and you have 100 people in your warehouse. And your competitor says, I only need 10 People in my warehouse, and I need 90 robots in my warehouse. And that's going to be cheaper and more efficient. Well, I can't be that employee that are an employer that says I'm going to keep all my employees paid, I'm gonna have to understand the nature of how jobs are going to change. And I need to act quickly. This is why we want to embrace AI as quickly as possible to make those decisions. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 53:21 so So two things, one, going back to the truck driver, okay, so AI can take over the actual driving of the truck, at some point, to the point where we don't have to fear that. That doesn't mean we can't find other things for that truck driver to do while he is in the truck. And the truck is being driven by AI. So that   Glenn Gow ** 53:45 is true. That is absolutely true. And so let us use this as our last example, a perfect example would be that that truck drivers overseeing six trucks, right? All at once happens to be sitting in one. But one of those six trucks gets stuck somewhere because you have a flat tire. And it needs a human intervention. But the human in the truck can tell it. Hey, that truck over there was five miles away, pull over and wait for a tow truck to come and get you. Yeah, yeah. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 54:18 very, very quickly. One last thing. I worked with a company called access to be I don't know if you're familiar with accessibility and what it does to help make the internet more accessible. No, please. So accessibility is a product that began several years ago when three guys in Israel developed sought wealth. They first had an internet company that made websites and then in 2017, Israel came along and said God and make all websites accessible. They had so many that they had to figure out a way to do that. And they used AI and they created a widget that sits in the cloud. And the widget can analyze any website of any subscriber. And when it analyzes, it creates what's called an overlay and creates all The code that it feels that it can put in to the site to make it accessible, and it doesn't reprogram the website. But when I go to a site that subscribes to access a B, I hear a message that says, Put your browser in a screen reader mode and I push the button, the widget up in the cloud transmits all the Accessibility Code down to my browser, which has already got the rest of the website, my browser doesn't care where the information comes from, right, as long as it's there. Now, it's not perfect, it doesn't do graphics, it doesn't do necessarily the most sophisticated tables and all bar charts. It doesn't describe all pictures. But it does a lot to make websites a lot more usable. And they have other profiles for other kinds of disabilities. But there's a cadre of people who just are so totally against it, hey, I could never do this overlays will never work. And I'm and they're vehement. And, you know, I continuously think of when I in 1985, started a company because I couldn't get a job to sell products, I started a company selling some of the early PC based CAD systems. And I had an I had architects who came in and they said, Well, we like your product, it's great. But if we use it, since we charge for our time, we can't make nearly the money that we otherwise would have. And I said, you're looking at it the wrong way. You don't deal with it in terms of how much your time is charged. Now, you look at it in terms of your expertise, and you're charging for your expertise. You don't change your prices, you get more customers. And you can do so much more with each customer by using a PC based CAD system and bring the architect or bring the client in and do walkthroughs and fly throughs and other stuff. But it's the same thing. And now CAD is commonplace. The reality is the overlay does so much and accessory is so creative at what it does. And they've also brought in additional services to do the things that the widget can't do. But it's amazing to see some people who were so vehemently against AI and overlays. When in reality, every website designer should include it. Because at least it'll do some of the heavy lifting and in what may not do everything, but it will do a lot and save them time and they don't have to change what they charge.   Glenn Gow ** 57:20 That's great. Sounds like you're a good salesman.   Michael Hingson ** 57:23 Well, we'll we'll keep going with it. It's it's a lot of fun. Well, I really want to thank you for being here. If people want to reach out to you. How do they do   Glenn Gow ** 57:30 that? It's very simple, Michael,   Michael Hingson ** 57:32 there you go. They can just go to AI and say find. Yeah, go ahead.   57:37 Well, my website is My name is Glenn Gow .com. So Glen with two Ns, G L, E, N, N G. O W.com. That's   Michael Hingson ** 57:47 easy. Well, I hope people will reach out. And this has been a lot of fun. And I want to   57:53 one thing I forgot to mention, absolutely. Okay. On my website, I have a tool that's free to use. It's available 24/7 You don't even need to fill out a form to use it. It's called AI CEO coach. So if you're a CEO, you can go to my website, Glen Gow.com and use this tool as often as you want absolutely for free. And ask it questions that a CEO would ask and see if you like the answers, and please give me some feedback on it. People love it so far. Cool.   Michael Hingson ** 58:32 Okay. And it's called again, AI   58:35 CEO, Coach coach.   Michael Hingson ** 58:37 Cool. Well, people go reach out and check it out and reach out to Glenn. I want to thank you again for being here. And I want to thank you all for listening. Love to hear your thoughts. Email me at Michaelhi m i c h a el h i at accessiBe A c c e s s i b e.com. Or go to our podcast page www dot Michael hingson.com/podcast. And that's m i c h a e l h i n g s o n.com/podcast. Love to hear your thoughts and please give us a five star rating wherever you are listening to our podcast or watching our podcast today. We value your insights and Glenn for you and you listening. If you know of anyone else who want to be a guest on unstoppable mindset. Please introduce us always looking for more people to come on and be a part of unstoppable mindset. So again, Glenn, I want to thank you for being here and really appreciate your time today. My   Glenn Gow ** 59:29 pleasure, Michael, it was a pleasure. I really enjoyed that.   **Michael Hingson ** 59:36 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. While you're on the site., please use the form there to recommend people who we ought to interview in upcoming editions of the show. And also, we ask you and urge you to invite your friends to join us in the future. If you know of any one or any organization needing a speaker for an event, please email me at speaker at Michael hingson.com. I appreciate it very much. To learn more about the concept of blinded by fear, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com forward slash blinded by fear and while you're there, feel free to pick up a copy of my free eBook entitled blinded by fear. The unstoppable mindset podcast is provided by access cast an initiative of accessiBe and is sponsored by accessiBe. Please visit www.accessibe.com . AccessiBe is spelled a c c e s s i b e. There you can learn all about how you can make your website inclusive for all persons with disabilities and how you can help make the internet fully inclusive by 2025. Thanks again for Listening. Please come back and visit us again next week.

In this episode of the Backlash Podcast, dive deep into the enthralling world of Muskie fishing with an array of seasoned anglers and enthusiasts. Featuring Paul Hartman, organizer of the Minnesota Muskie Expo, and Michael Hanson of Namakagan Area Guide Service, the episode offers a wealth of knowledge into the fascinating Muskie fishing arena. Listeners can look forward to understanding the process, art, and science of Muskie fishing with insights into fishing lures, changing water temperatures, techniques, and tales from various fishing expeditions. The episode also incorporates a discussion with Brad Hoppe, known for his humor-filled anecdotes about past events and his zealous anticipation for the upcoming Muskie Expo. Also, the episode talks about the journey of a successful Muskie fishing guide, discussing the challenges and victories in establishing a clientele base and fishing in Northern Wisconsin. Moreover, important aspects such as understanding the nature of the lakes you wish to fish from, and the differences between shallow and deep fishing are explored in a lucid, engaging manner. The episode puts forth a comprehensive guide to Muskie fishing straight from the experiences of passionate anglers. Plus, it contains a discussion on the strategies for successful Muskie fishing, the nature of Muskie fish, and how various factors can impact the overall fishing experience. Whether you're a seasoned angler or a fishing enthusiast, this episode is a treasure trove of knowledge and insights into the world of Muskie fishing. Don't miss out on this opportunity to sharpen your skills and fuel your passion for Muskie fishing.

Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss their takeaways from the global January CPI reports and how the incoming data are shaping the outlook for inflation and  monetary policy.    This podcast was recorded on February 27, 2024. This communication is provided for information purposes only.  Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4637818-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2024 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Donald Trump! A new format this week and the first time talking about politics on the show.Michael Chapman and Michael Hanson sit down to have a balanced debate and discussion about this very controversial figure.But the central theme to the whole debate is dialogue. In many parts of the world we've lost the ability to have sensible discussion about things we disagree with, and when this happens, society begins to break down.So even though the two Michael's disagree on many things about the former president, they agree on one thing, differences of opinion are part of life, and they are healthy, when discussed in an open and respectful way.We hope you enjoy the show. Let us know what you think!To find out more about Michael Chapman and a couple of the things we discuss:- Michael's LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/3mhyfd7v - President Joe Biden on Jay Shetty's podcast discussing family values: http://tinyurl.com/5n885kds- Jordan Peterson Discussing Trump on a podcast: http://tinyurl.com/bdhddaswPodcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro2.35 - Why Are We Having this Conversation?12.35 - Where Trump and Cancel Culture Come Together24.39 - Choosing Between 2 Evils and the Latino Debate35.00 -  When Did the Problem Begin?42.08 - The Agenda vs the Person and Looking at the Vote47.05 - The Victim Mindset and the Politically Correct51.22 - Do We Have a Political Crisis?56.55 - Let's Learn from Each Other58.48 - Outro and Takeaways(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Join Gregg Thomas as he joins the guys as they talk the up coming Musky Road Rules events this weekend, the 2023 season patterns, lure making and small water muskies.   www.llungenlures.com www.muskyroadrules.com www.thornebros.com https://sportsmansrepair.com  

This week Michael joins our short list of reoccurring guests as he chats with us about his late fall/early winter marathon. We talk about nice fish he stuck and how he did it. We also chatted a lot of baits as we tend to do this time of year. Some unique mods, choices, etc.. Gus and Michael will be at the Musky Road Rules event this Saturday, February 3rd, to present their seminars at Sportsmans Repair Shop in Mosinee, WI. Tap in!

Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss the main takeaways from the December CPI reports and how the incoming data are shaping the outlook for inflation and  monetary policy.  This podcast was recorded on 24 January 2024. This communication is provided for information purposes only. Institutional clients please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2024 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Today's guest is Drewe Broughton. In 1986, aged 8, he set his heart on becoming a professional footballer at the very summit of the game. In 1993 aged 16 whilst a schoolboy and signed with Norwich City FC, he was asked to be in the squad for the First team in the Premier league against Everton, based on his performances in the U.15s. 6 months later In 1994 aged 16 he left school and home to move to Norwich and pursue his dreams. In March 1996, aged 18 he made his professional debut for Norwich City away at Wolves, scoring and getting rave reviews. Three months later he was in the England U.20 World Cup squad and signed a 3 year contract with adidas. He was tipped for the top with his talent and attitude. In 2011, aged 33, 15 years, 100 goals and 600 professional games later, lived out across 3 of England's 4 Professional divisions, representing 20 clubs; promotions, relegations, administrations, lauded, rejected, admired, mocked, he was retired from the game. No longer was he able to perform. A career spent dogged and undermined by soul searching and Fear, It culminated in him going into rehab for addictions. At the same time his agent died, his marriage broke down and he was homeless.A natural leader at every stage of his life. Well educated, well raised with great morals, the confusion for many around me was enormous. For him it was even greater. What he discovered about myself during his darkest hours, he will be forever grateful for.Such hard earned wisdom aligned with such vast experiences and exceptionally high emotional intelligence has enabled him to unlock the potential of a huge diversity of people from around the world. From Founders of businesses, to management teams, PGA golfers, International Footballers, Tennis players and many others. He has appeared in and on, an array of media platforms from;The New York Times , Sky Sports, Bt Sport, The Guardian, The Times, BBC, ITV Discussing Fear and the ongoing lack of understanding around human performance and coach education.He has found that the leaders and performers who have contacted him all have the same traits. That strong moral compass, sensitive, yet fiercely driven, relentless ambition to the point where nothing is ever enough. Traits that he hugely relates to, having had to battle that himself In a public and merciless industry for nearly two decadesToday he combines his 1:1 coaching with athletes and business owners with consultancy, which has taken him around the world, since 2019 he has taken 200+ thru his education in Advanced EQ for leaders whilst growing his company ; Sweat & CourageTo get in touch with Drewe, to find out more or see the links we discuss :- Drewe's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewe-broughton/- Drewe's Book: http://tinyurl.com/4bzaz9fm- Lion King Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSnngqq4o8g Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro0.46 - Drewe's Journey with Fear2.58 - Rehab13.20 - Dealing with Your Shadow19.55 - Letting Go29.10 - How the Greatest Have a Dark Side39.36 - Truth, Authenticity and Dialogue51.42 - The Next Mountain?56.04 - Finding Balance65.05 - Spirituality and God77.36 - Outro (Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss the recent shipping disruptions along the Suez and Panama Canals and the implications for global supply chains and inflation. We estimate the recent surge in container shipping costs––if they persist––could add 0.7%-pts to global core goods CPI (0.3%-pt to core). Most of that inflationary impulse is not likely to be felt until late 1Q or early 2Q, however, given lagged pass-through. If sustained, there could also be a hit to global industry on the downside, reinforcing our concerns that global industry is starting the year off weak.  While nowhere near a COVID-era shock, even a modest rebound in goods inflation could render global core CPI inflation sticky around the 3% mark, especially if services inflation stays stuck above central bank targets as we project. This podcast was recorded on January 23, 2024. This communication is provided for information purposes only.  Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4596665-0  for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2024 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Michael Chapman took the bold step of restructuring his career, life, and goals around his values and faith.After recognizing his path was leading him away from God and his highest potential, he knew he had to make a change or risk losing a full life lived.In August of 2017, on the heels of a painful second divorce, loss of a child, and multiple job losses, he decided to walk away from a toxic work environment and 26 years of working for others across multiple industries.As a father of 4, he walked away with NO job in hand. He answered a call to take his hand, get out of the boat, walk on water, and help others achieve their own breakthrough.The day he walked away back in 2017, he began looking for a new opportunity on LinkedIn. He had written more than 2000+ journals about his life, losses he had endured, and subsequent learnings in tandem. As a result, he began to share those with the LinkedIn community.In this episode of the show we discuss all things entitlement, political correctness, masculinity, his journey, and so much more.Enjoy!To find out more about Michael, the posts we discuss and his work:- Michael's LinkedIn: http://tinyurl.com/3mhyfd7v - More on the Harvard Scandal: http://tinyurl.com/3wcas5xd- A Video on the Incident: http://tinyurl.com/yc6d6fj9 Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro1.36 - Entitlement6.52 - How to Help Stop Entitlement14.14 - Where Do You See Entitlement?19.17 - Letting Go28.15 - Managing Social Media Use34.39 - The Need for Masculinity and What It Means40.55 - Finding Balance46.18 - What Hope Is There for the Education System?48.56 - Sending a Message to Campuses and the Woke54.12 - Outro and TakeawaysA Couple More Podcasts on the Harvard Scandal:- The Charlie Kirk Show: http://tinyurl.com/bddb4857- Inside The Plagiarism Scandal Roiling Harvard: http://tinyurl.com/z64rkje9(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Michael Hanson discusses his time living in Medellin, Colombia, and some of Medellin's past and present.Did you know Medellin went from being the murder capital of the world in 1994 to being voted the world's most innovative city in 2013?We discuss some stories of Colombia's past, the warmth and resilience of the Colombian people, how this ties in with the Christmas holidays, and so much more.It's a fantastic show about so much more than just Medellin.To find out more about Michael, see the article discussed in the show or to get in touch:- Michael's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hanson - The COSMIC Bridge Website: https://thecosmicbridge.com/ - Growth Genie Website: https://growthgenie.co/ - Medellin: The Most Innovative City in the World: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-21638308 Podcast Chapters0.00 - Intro1.21 - Medellin and It's Transformation6.08 - The Resilience of Colombian People10.04 - The Real Colombia and Medellin13.00 - Colombia, Christmas and Jesus15.23 - Everything Will Be Okay. Never Suffer Alone16.38 - Be a Light in the Darkness17.25 - Outro(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss the main takeaways from the November CPI reports and how the incoming data are shaping the near-term outlook for inflation and central banks.    This podcast was recorded on December 21, 2023. This communication is provided for information purposes only.  Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4586495-0  for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2023 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved. This material or any portion hereof may not be reprinted, sold or redistributed without the written consent of J.P. Morgan. It is strictly prohibited to use or share without prior written consent from J.P. Morgan any research material received from J.P. Morgan or an authorized third-party (“J.P. Morgan Data”) in any third-party artificial intelligence (“AI”) systems or models when such J.P. Morgan Data is accessible by a third-party. It is permissible to use J.P. Morgan Data for internal business purposes only in an AI system or model that protects the confidentiality of J.P. Morgan Data so as to prevent any and all access to or use of such J.P. Morgan Data by any third-party.

Pablo Stewart is a psychiatrist for people on death row, and a nationally recognized expert in capital (death penalty) litigation, having worked on over 300 capital cases.In this episode we dive into how he ended up in this line of work, why he does what he does, stories from some of the people he's worked with, his beliefs on psychology and Carl Jung, and so much more.It may be one of the most amazing shows we've ever had! Let us know what you think.To find out more about Pablo and his work: - a bit more about Pablo: https://www.queens.org/providers/1331/pablo-stewart/- 2022 Human Writes Conference: https://www.humanwrites.org/conference?year=2022 Michael's Episode about writing to a prisoner on death row: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2072571/episodes/13926773 Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro3.24 - How Pablo became a psychiatrist for people on death row8.24 - Why do you work with people on death row?10.27 - A particularly impactful story15.10 - How to stay neutral with such difficult work21.25 - Diagnosing mental illness24.39 - What things typically lead to mental illness28.25 - How do you keep yourself healthy?34.06 - How has Carl Jung influenced your thinking?38.29 - The collective unconscious46.45 - Have you worked on any cases where the person was innocent52.40 - What would you like to see happening in the US going forward59.10 - Outro and takeaways (Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

In this week's show we go right back to a short recap of one of our most popular episodes to date with Jeremy Connell-Waite. Jeremy is a Global Communications Designer at IBM.In this short cut he talks about Ikigai, which is a Japanese technique to help combine your profession, your passion, your impact, and something you love, and he discusses how he used it to design his dream job.To listen to the full original episode: https://tinyurl.com/4rkt7mu3For more about Jeremy and to get in touch:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jeremypaulwaiteThe post on Ikigai we talk about: https://cutt.ly/F3ICewAPodcast Chapters:0.00 - What Is Ikigai?3.12 - Designing His Dream Job with Ikigai?(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast and the CEO of Growth Genie, a consultancy that helps B2B sales teams have more human conversations.In this episode he discusses his journey and experience writing to an inmate on Death Row in the USA through the organisation Human Writes.Michael also talks about his time at the Human Writes conference and an incredible story of forgiveness from an inmate who was pardoned from Death Row.To find out more about Michael or Human Writes, and to get in touch:- Human Writes Website: https://www.humanwrites.org/ - To find out more about Billy, simply Google: Billy Neal Moore- Billy's Book: https://www.amazon.com/Shall-Not-Die-Seventy-two-Hours/dp/142083262X - Michael's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hanson - The COSMIC Bridge Website: https://thecosmicbridge.com/ - Growth Genie Website: https://growthgenie.co/ Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro1.28 - How I Started Writing to a Prisoner on Death Row4.38 - Why Am I Doing This?9.31 - The Human Writes Conference11.44 - Billy Neil Moore and an Incredible Story of Forgiveness18.14 - Outro and Takeaways(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast and the CEO of Growth Genie, a consultancy that helps B2B sales teams have more human conversations.He's passionate about finding balance, which led him to set up the COSMIC Bridge.In this episode he talks about the COSMIC Sales framework:C - ChallengeO - OpenS - SpiritualM - MaterialI - InfluenceC - ConsequenceA framework to bridge all aspects of sales.To find out more about Michael, Growth Genie, The COSMIC Bridge, and to get in touch:- Michael's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hanson-/ - The COSMIC Bridge Website: https://thecosmicbridge.com/ - Growth Genie Website: https://growthgenie.co/ Podcast Chapters0.00 - The Problem with Modern Sales0.36 - COSMIC Sales0.44 - Materialism and Spirituality1.50 - Challenge and Consequence2.34 - Influence3.49 - Open and Authentic5.00 - The Definition of COSMIC(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Michael Hanson, Dan Silver, and Murat Tasci discuss the health of the US consumer. Recent benchmark GDP revisions imply more excess saving while liquid asset holdings and net worth have surged since the pandemic began. These should cushion US households against recent headwinds, and support our call for a continued, if soft, expansion next year. Speakers: Michael Hanson Daniel Silver Murat Tasci This podcast was recorded on 12 October 2023. This communication is provided for information purposes only. Institutional clients can view the related report at www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4528206-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2023 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved.

Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast and the CEO of Growth Genie, a consultancy that helps B2B sales teams have more human conversations.He's passionate about finding balance, which led him to set up the COSMIC Bridge.In this episode he talks about all things balance in sales, from the material to the spiritual, and quality to quantity.- Here's the link to the diagram: https://tinyurl.com/2tcezdc3 To find out more about Michael, Growth Genie, The COSMIC Bridge, and to get in touch:- Michael's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-hanson-/ - The COSMIC Bridge Website: https://thecosmicbridge.com/ - Growth Genie Website: https://growthgenie.co/ Podcast Chapters0.00 - Trailer and Intro0.53 - Balance2.01 - Sales Balance2.44 - Spirituality in Sales6.48 - Quality and Connection in Sales9.15 - The Material Side of Sales10.24 - Quantity, Numbers and Sales14.15 - Discipline in Sales15.20 - Outro and Takeaways(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Tom Jenkins and Michael Hanson sit down to talk about abstinence, fasting and arguably the biggest addiction of this century, porn.The episode on porn addiction with Ian Koniak was our most popular yet and we wanted to dive deeper into the subject. We touch on the negative effects porn brings you, the benefits of leaving it forever, why it's a subject not talked about, and how it should be.We also touch on fasting, voluntary suffering and the reasons why it's so good for you, emotionally, physically and spiritually.Here's the link to the episode with Ian Koniak: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2072571/12475997-porn-addiction-ep-18-ian-koniakPodcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro0.52 - Porn and the Harm it Brings3.00 - How Porn Has Evolved4.35 - Semen Retention and the Benefits12.31 - Fasting16.29 - Using Fasting to Benefit the Homeless17.11 - Voluntary Suffering and Pushing Limits23.14 - Outro and Takeaways(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss the main takeaways from the August CPI reports and the inflation outlook for the coming quarter.    This podcast was recorded on September 26, 2023. This communication is provided for information purposes only.  Institutional clients can view the related report at https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4520743-0  for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2023 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved.

PMTT CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK WE RIDE!!! Fellas hopped on to preview the PMTT Championship at the historic Chippewa Flowage. We were also fortunate enough to bring on Michael Hanson this week from Namekagon Area Guide Service to chop it up. He's an expert on all things musky in northern wisco and shared some awesome stories and a few tips & tricks along the way. We really enjoyed this one and hope you do too. Tap in!

Michael Hanson is the Founder and CEO of Growth Genie, a B2B sales consulting firm. Previously, Michael was Vice President of Growth at CloudTask, where he worked side by side with the CEO and COO to scale them from 10 to over 200 employees in just 3 years. After working in a variety of revenue roles for 8 years from account management to marketing to sales, Michael realized that the hardest role is to turn cold leads and prospects into warm sales opportunities. Michael thus set up Growth Genie in 2019 to help empower them.As CEO, Michael practices what he preaches with sales to win new business, but most importantly he oversees operations to ensure their clients are happy with the quality of training, playbooks and cadences. On this episode, Michael and I talk about Growth Genie's Sales Playbook, the importance of Sales Cadences, how to balance a personal sales approach with an automated one, and much more.

James Honda-Pinder is a master storyteller and Head of Strategy at We Are Social living out in Singapore.In this episode we discuss the power of stories and how they transcend time, how to create a truly impactful story, the possibilities this can bring, and so much more.When stories are the backbones of communication, becoming a master storyteller is an art in life!To Find the Resources we discuss in the show and for James' LinkedIn@- Story by Robert McKee: https://tinyurl.com/4635xybs- 6 Rules of Great Storytelling by Pixar: https://tinyurl.com/yxr4caxn- The Book Creativity Inc.: https://tinyurl.com/4exysejf- David Hieatt's Books: http://tinyurl.com/46ay7vhh - James' LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-honda-pinder-a6036a44/Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro0.45 - The Villains of James' Life3.09 - What's the Hero's Arc?5.50 - The Power of Context12.33 - How Stories Transfer Morality20.02 - The Power of Stories25.09 - Self-Therapy Through Stories34.26 - Presenting a Better Future40.40 - Letting People in Emotionally43.16 - Creating the Less Is More Effect49.34 - Resources, Outro and TakeawaysMichael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy.- The COSMIC Bridge website: https://thecosmicbridge.com/- Growth Genie Website: https://growthgenie.co/(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Bishop Mark Strange is a British Anglican bishop. He's the current Bishop of Moray, Ross and Caithness in the Scottish Episcopal Church and he's the Primus of the Scottish Episcopal Church.In this episode we discuss Mark's path to the church from working in a pub, challenges he's faced along the way, his faith in God in the hardest moments, serving the community, and so much more.Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro1.00 - Mark's Path to a Bishop12.31 - Finding the Balance Between Free Will vs a Higher Power15.44 - How Can We Bring Young People Back to God?23.56 - Conversations in the Pub34.25 - Finding God in Darkness40.02 - Serving Humanity44.19 - The Balance Between Serving Others and Serving Ourselves49.07 - Outro and TakeawaysMichael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy.- The COSMIC Bridge website: https://thecosmicbridge.com/- Growth Genie Website: https://growthgenie.co/(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Travis Michael is all of what the title says. As he says he “played jump rope his entire life over the Mason-Dixon line spending time between the mountains of Johnstown Pennsylvania, and the city bay life of Baltimore”. As I spoke with Travis during our initial call as well as during our episode he is an incredibly curious person who also wants to do good in the world.   He will tell us a great deal about his new app called “Bridgd” which you can learn about at www.bridgd.com.   In addition to app development, he and his company help other companies and nonprofits improve their efficiency by streamlining and enhancing what they do and how they do it.   Now, Travis is completing work on his book, “Honor Thy Father” which he expects to have published in the August 2023 timeframe.   I think you will enjoy Travis and his wisdom. I know I did.     About the Guest:   Founder of Trav Media Group, Travis Michael played jump rope his entire life over the Mason-Dixon line spending time between the mountains of Johnstown Pennsylvania and the city bay life of Baltimore Maryland before traveling the United States helping companies as their one-stop Chief Marketing Officer. In his spare time, he's spending time with his family and friends while donating time to his church and community.     Ways to connect with Travis:   Website - https://trav.media Email - travis@trav.media Bridg'd App - https://bridgdcom.com Instagram & TikTok - @travismichael.official @trav.media      About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below!   Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app.   Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts.     Transcription Notes   Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i  capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:20 Greetings, everyone, I am Michael Hingson. And you are listening to unstoppable mindset where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Today we get to talk with Travis Michael. That's his pen name and what He wants us to use, which is great. And it's his pen name because Travis is about to come out with a new book. And we will definitely talk about that in the course of the next hour or so. But Travis, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here.   Travis Michael ** 01:50 Michael, it's a pleasure being here. We have had so many amazing conversations that I'm excited to see where this one goes.   Michael Hingson ** 01:59 Well, let's start. Let's start with something that I love to do, which is learn a little bit about you as a younger Travis, where you started from what you did, and and kind of how you got where you are. I know you talked about jumping rope over the Mason Dixon Line going from Pennsylvania to Baltimore. See, I know how to say that. Right? Yeah. And I lived there for six months. So And anyway, so tell us a little bit about Travis.   Travis Michael ** 02:32 Yeah. So you know, I, I love to like preface this with like book recommendations. There's a really good book. It's called outliers. And it's basically about people that have had access to unique things in their lives, right, you know, what really defined your childhood and what drove you. And I was fortunate to be able to go to what's called a magnet school. So magnet schools, they had a four big professional focuses. And that was environmental science, Applied Engineering, visual, graphic art, and mass communication. And so by sixth grade, you're taking a two period class with that specialty and you transition every quarter, by seventh grade, you narrowed it down to two. And by eighth grade, you're taking that specialty class the entire year through. And so, you know, people, you know, kids that go through those types of experiences and have access to more tools, as laid out in outliers. I Bill Gates, people realize that he worked at a college that had a supercomputer. So he he actually worked in the lab of the supercomputer to have access and access to it. And then he was able to understand the different problems because he was there, troubleshooting. He was there helpdesk, essentially. And, you know, he took that knowledge and that knowledge base and was able to expand upon it. So you know, I love talking to people and finding out like, what really drives them and being able to expand upon that as well. So yeah, that was kind of me growing up, right, you know, the I try to like take in as much as I could. From a media standpoint, my focus was visual graphic art that has really driven me and my helping take people's visions and use my skills to drive their visions as well.   Michael Hingson ** 04:45 But you talk about really wanting to help people interact with people and help them I'm not trying to put words in your mouth as such but become better than they are what what caused you to have that kind of a wide scope and wide view of what you wanted to do, because that's far beyond graphics?   Travis Michael ** 05:03 Well, you know, right as a kid, you know, you're like, I want to, I want to change, I want to, I want to make a change, there's something that's not right. There's something that's off. And I just, I needed to I wanted to, there's a lot of blocks in communication, right there in and how people communicate and the ability to communicate. You know, and I, in middle school, I was, I think it was in the early 90s, when American Sign Language came into play. And whenever I moved up to Pennsylvania, in eighth grade, I had access to a, there was a young young girl in my grade, that she, she was deaf, and they offer sign language classes, and I took some sign language classes. I know very little, I think I know, the ABCs up to like, G. And that's where it stops. But I also knew that like, obviously, there was there's a huge disconnect there. Right, Mike? You know, there's, there's having the ability that there's, there's some sort of even social block right, in being able to communicate,   Michael Hingson ** 06:23 and that's something that has fascinated you, and that you've wanted to kind of address and you do that primarily through dealing with graphic arts, or do you go beyond that?   Travis Michael ** 06:34 Well, I like to go beyond that, right. And I just just got back from Chicago, and I ended up there is a stop at the Wonder Museum, and I would highly recommend if you have the opportunity to go to Chicago, definitely check it out. But it offered experiences and, you know, anytime any type of social engagement is an experience, and I want to be able to help those that have communication blocks, be able to communicate, in general, you know, being able to not be a fly on the wall, not just, you know, a person in the back, doing their best to read lips. And so, whenever I was in Chicago, there, I'm, I think I'm very approachable, Mike. And next thing I know, I'm being a tourist, I'm taking videos and pictures. And this gentleman approaches me. And he starts is puts up one thing, he starts signing, and you could hear just in his voice is I'm deaf. Just like that's like all he was able to get out of his voice at a very low get Gatsby. And then I, I he was trying to show no sign to me. I said hold on one second. It just so happens that I'm developing an app for deaf people. And I pulled the app out. And it started transcribing my voice as I was talking. And I was able to communicate. And we had a wonderful conversation about it, even whenever we were kind of walking and talking. That I was I had my chin down. I was kind of, you know, looking down and talking. And he's like, he's like, Hey, I'm up here. I can't read your lips. If your chin is down.   Michael Hingson ** 08:54 And I was gonna ask how did he understand you? It wasn't mainly lip reading, or I definitely want to learn more about the app. But did he read your lips? Is that how you he understood you?   Travis Michael ** 09:04 Yes, that's how he understood me, you know, as his education revolved around, being able to read my lips, you know, being able to read lips, period, not just my lips, anyone's lips. And you know, they can hear low tones. Yeah. And it's, it's very interesting. I had a we really didn't miss a beat in our conversations as I was able to use the app. And if there was something that he was trying to communicate communicate with me that wasn't getting through. He could just use my phone and type in whatever you type it in, and then hit play and it played out the speaker.   Michael Hingson ** 09:53 I when I was in elementary school, and I don't remember what grade I was in In but it probably was third grade. Or earlier, I'm going to say the third grade. We were at a Halloween party at the school. And I ended up sitting across a table from a gentleman who was one of the janitors at the school. And we talked for a while. And occasionally I looked away. And he didn't necessarily respond. But then he volunteered that he had been deaf since Pearl Harbor. And that he communicated, he did not, his voice was as natural as someone who was a full hearing person. But he understood people by reading lips. And it's the first time I ever had exposure to that. And he was very kind and very generous with his time telling me about it, because I became, of course, very curious being blind. And we had a wonderful conversation than in several since when when I was still at that school, but it is it is fascinating. And he was as good as a body could be at reading lips, he certainly understood me.   Travis Michael ** 11:14 So he was able to speak back to   Michael Hingson ** 11:18 Yes, he absolutely could speak back to me. And I had no clue that he was death, because he served in the military. So this was like, What 1958 or so. And he had been in the military and served at Pearl Harbor, and which is when he became deaf, so he continued to be able to speak very well.   Travis Michael ** 11:40 Ah, gotcha. That makes a lot of sense. And I   Michael Hingson ** 11:43 had no idea that he was deaf or, or anything other than just a person who could talk to me and I could talk to him. And then he told me about being deaf. And that was, I'm sure, in a sense, brave of him. But for me, it was fascinating. And I haven't thought about him very much since then. But this brought it up. And just as fascinating that you're having success, how's the app doing?   Travis Michael ** 12:11 Oh, it's wonderful, we're getting ready to launch the new the new user interface, it's a lot brighter cleaner. And you know, from there, because that's going to be the base base design that we have, we're going to be pushing out a lot more demos and videos, because now this is okay, we've proved out the model, it works. We've got approval from Apple and Google for the model. And now we're getting ready to do a full launch with some really neat upgrades, including voice segmentation. So if you're interested, you can find that app over to read br idgd.com. So that's bridged with no E. It's no e.com. And you can download and be a test user right now, we're, we're really excited to roll out the next version with some really cool updates, and ultimately expand out into other markets, including translations. And so stay tuned for some really awesome upgrades that are going to be incremental in connecting people not only of speaking and non speaking and hearing and non hearing, but languages all across the globe, as we build this thing out. So head over to bridged.com with no E, and sign up as a test user, and where we're really super stoked about getting this thing out here, Mike,   Michael Hingson ** 14:02 when will the next upgrades and so on come out?   Travis Michael ** 14:06 Yeah. So we're ready, getting ready for phase one be new upgrades will be coming early fall. So I think August, we're going to be really pushing it out. But we were probably going to have some short term upgrades, including the new UI, maybe not with the full scope. But we're, we're really close to full implementation. I think we're, you know, just to keep this moving. I think there's just gonna be I think it's gonna be like dollar 99 a month, very minimal, just to be a being able to support the technology. So it's not a whole lot, but it's something that we can put into a humanitarian effort to be able to connect with Many people have many different languages Have you   Michael Hingson ** 15:05 have you tested it with VoiceOver and so on to see that it's accessible from that standpoint.   Travis Michael ** 15:13 Really, we're just focusing on the, in real life, engage engagements, you can customize what's really beautiful about this, this app is the ability to then speak back, there's a lot of platforms where you can just, it just transcribes. But then the user has the ability to, to then type in a quick reply, or selective select from a series of quick replies that are already loaded, kind of like your emojis that you pull up another, it's like another keyboard, and you can have, you can actually program your quick reply keyboard, based on, you know, maybe you have, you're going to the doctor's office, and you have some, quote, some questions that need to be answered. And rather than picking them on the fly, you can add them into the keyboard under your favorites, you tap it, if you add it to the keyboard, and then it plays through the phone speaker. And you can go down and you've talked to actually talk to your doctor about these things. And being able to maybe have questions for you, just in general, just being able to converse, you know, pick the conversation type, it's going to help them be able to communicate better.   Michael Hingson ** 16:45 Well, the question I was asking what I was getting at is that with like iPhones and with the Google Android phones, there are what are called screen readers, there are software packages that will that will verbalize whatever comes across the screen. And in this case, you're going deeper than that, because you're also dealing with providing input by other means. And my question really was, have you explored making sure that the app is accessible using screen readers, for people who may not be able to necessarily see everything that comes across the screen, but needs to hear it. And that's a little bit different set of gestures, it is all part of what Apple provides. And, and the Google Android phones do, although I think Apple still does a little bit better job of it. But what what VoiceOver is, is a software package that will verbalize whatever comes across the screen. It also means that if I needed to, I could type messages. If somebody isn't a lip reader, for example, I'm assuming that this is part of what the app would allow one to do would be for me to be able to type and then it would appear on the screen. And voiceover would allow me as a blind person to be able to do that. So my question really was, are you looking at accessibility for the product across the board?   Travis Michael ** 18:20 Oh, absolutely. I think that it's going to be critical for for those types of conversations. And you know, and being able to last time we talked being able to add that. Well, I've also had some very interesting conversations with with Google. And I look forward to having more about exactly that. Being able to provide accessibility in improve their accessibility, that   Michael Hingson ** 18:54 I will have to download the app and and experiment and can give you some feedback regarding that. Because a lot of app developers don't really understand what they can really do to make visual and non visual, well, visual apps more usable by people who may not see what's on the screen. And so Apple provides a lot of information about that, but there are no requirements for any of that. So a lot of people don't necessarily see it, or they may make their app work. And then the next time a new update comes out, something gets broken because it doesn't become part of their process to keep that going. But I'll be glad to download it and take a look at it and see what it looks like. It sounds like it would be a lot of fun to do.   Travis Michael ** 19:46 Yeah, yeah, that's, you know, and we're gonna be, you know, constantly working on improvements. This is a definitely a new space that we're looking to help people explore And upon, and being able to have the ability to remove social norms, where, where social norms aren't necessarily good, where Deaf people are not communicating, they're typically standing in the back and being a wallflower. And because you don't know, or most people in that contact group, don't have don't have don't have the ability to communicate, whether it be ASL, or what have you, soy, or even, you know, having someone there that that knows ASL that can translate. And then it's, there's still that barrier, there's still that extra person. Whereas, you know, now you can kind of have that freedom to go to the store, go walk down the street taught, you know, talk to someone randomly. And it really helps clear that that pathway, right, right.   Michael Hingson ** 21:10 What What got you started doing this app?   Travis Michael ** 21:14 Well, so the president of the company is deaf. So this is I'm doing this, I'm creating this app for my client. And his dad, and I had been working together. Now his dad's the CFO of the company. And his dad, Todd Trichur, pulled me aside after one of our meetings that we had been working together on his HFC, one quick question. Can you build apps? I see. Well, yeah, absolutely. You know, I just developed an app for client out of Los Angeles, like an Uber like app that people can just book trips to and from the airports just right from their website. I said, Yeah, sure. Got it. Got a team, you know, we're really starting to roll on some big projects. He says, Well, my son was born deaf. And I've always had in my head that when the technology was there, we would build this app together. And being able to help deaf people communicate in real time, using this technology. And he's, you know, done a lot of market research. And I think it's time to just start pulling the trigger on this and move forward. So we go through many conversations. I built I personally built the user interface user experience that I've laid out for my developers, wonderful team that put this put what we have to get put the kind of the, the engine behind the machine. Well, I kind of just had the, the brick and mortar, right. So it's, it's been a wonderful experience. And we're picking up steam, and some other really, really cool projects that we're looking to take some of these industries by storm, with our creativity, and how we have how we start building markets in a positive way.   Michael Hingson ** 23:38 What's the name of your company?   Travis Michael ** 23:39 So my company is travel Media Group. You can find me online at if you just type in travel dot media. There's no.com It's just https colon forward slash forward slash Trev. Tr AV dot media, I think if you look down here, yeah, right there. Under my Zoom picture here, you can see my my website. I work with companies doing you know, it's great, because I have the ability to flex. And you know, I can be doing these wonderful mobile apps. And then I can also kind of switch into for marketing training, and working with different teams. On You know, I'm able to kind of be more budget friendly for nonprofits, where I can instead of doing it, I can train people, and then they can kind of work the plan. So, but I'm also doing, I still enjoy doing logos. I still want to, you know, doing custom websites, I build a custom website for a client out of Georgia, that does. Jet parks for private jets, build a custom, ecommerce quoting system for their website. And there, it's been just steamrolling, or our SEO has been wonderful. The ability to add parts to their, to their quoting system is, is pretty seamless. And then they can just quote out the prod the product and get people into their, their funnel a lot quicker. So it's, you know, a lot of this is is just problem, problem versus solution, finding the solution to, you know, unique problems and identify the market. You know, again, I do my own market research and with search engine marketing, and I try to understand the entire funnel. And, you know, a comp a company may have different a few different demographics that they're partnering to. Right. You know, I could be working with marketers, you know, and I can also be working with CEOs, you know, so many different parts and understanding supply chain as well. That's a big help.   Michael Hingson ** 26:20 Yeah, yeah. There's, there's a lot to that, isn't there?   Travis Michael ** 26:23 Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 26:24 How long have you been doing this? How long has the company been around?   Travis Michael ** 26:28 Yeah, so I started traveling media in 2017. I was just out as bootstraps in a computer, right? And just just talking, I saw one of my first clients that they dealt and drones, they they actually built drones. That got me into some really cool spaces. Gave a handful of clients in the aviation sector, one of one of them, does the, the drone light shows. So you know, if you're in the aviation world, the trade show booths, done, you know, even like, instructional instructional design. So on the back of all those drones that for those light shows, I there's a sticker that they put on him. And that sticker just happens to be my designed, very kind of Honeycomb like, so it's really cool.   Michael Hingson ** 27:29 What did you do before you started travel media?   Travis Michael ** 27:33 So same kind of space? Like I, right out of college, I was doing animation boards and malls, and then they go, can you do business cards? Can you do logo design? And can you do brochures? Next, you know, I'm doing billboards, I'm animation for commercials. I was then, you know, really getting into animation with After Effects. And you have some 3d stuff. And then I might, I would give designs to web developers, and they were just butchering my designs. And I was like, stop it, stop, quit, quit screwing up my design, they already approved this, this design, and you're not giving them anything remotely close. So I went in started teaching myself CSS and HTML, and it kind of I, I can understand JavaScript and PHP, but I can't really write it. But But now with with Chet GPT. You know, I'm, I'm also building unique plugins for that. That helped me with my technology. So we, for instance, we have the we have the the website for the for the bridge app. And then we have the app, right? And so there are two different, different things, but how do you get them to communicate with one another. So anytime someone registers on the app, a signal is then sent back to the website that actually has a database that can house that information. So that's so we're reusing that they're developing a REST API that gives them the ability to communicate with each other. So that's been, you know, just the evolution of technology and   Michael Hingson ** 29:40 explain that just a little bit more for me. I'm not quite sure I follow what yeah, what that's doing.   Travis Michael ** 29:45 Absolutely. So it, basically it's handling the user registration. So if you when you register on the mobile app, right, so Michael Pinkston, at my I go hangsen.com. And it goes to all that information is then. So your your profile is then created on our website, in our in our database, right? That database doesn't necessarily have to be on the website, it can be on an entirely different shooter. But for the kind of being able to control the two, we're able to create that that communication gap worried. So the app can then talk to the website. Does that make sense?   Michael Hingson ** 30:44 Yeah, I think I, I follow it. So and so by the app talking to the website, it and obviously keeps the profile up to date. What does it do for the user, in terms of communicating with others and so on?   Travis Michael ** 31:00 Well, all it does is, you know, if you lost your password, maybe you switch apps. Okay. So that's all it really handles. Right? Got it.   Michael Hingson ** 31:11 Okay. What do you think about this whole discussion of AI Artificial Intelligence, which well, not widgets, but artificial intelligence products, like, chat, GPT, and so on, you know, they've become so sensational, sensationalized? What do you what do you think about all of the furor around all of that?   Travis Michael ** 31:33 Well, it was coming. It's I mean, we it's been, you know, we've been working with autocomplete now for how long? Right? So like, that was just a form of AI. Yeah. And now we know, it's expanding into more of a user interface where the end user can dictate what the outcome should be. And so you really have to be able to figure out, it's your best use cases, for what you need. Right. I, people are afraid of the maliciousness behind it. I'm sure that there's some sort of kill switch. There, there would have to be.   Michael Hingson ** 32:33 The other aspect of it is that we keep hearing about all this potentially bad stuff with it. But look, we haven't eliminated the dark web. And we have the internet and the internet is is a way to get a lot of information to people and has been since the early 1990s. So it's always going to be dependent on what we use it for and how we use it for and hopefully, we have enough fried people who will use it. And that will hopefully set some of the tone about don't do bad things with it, because that's not appropriate. But the other part of it is, if you said, a kill switch, or we will have to probably put some governors on it because too many people are going to misuse it. When they don't need to they're gonna go down a rabbit hole, they don't need to go down.   Travis Michael ** 33:28 But Potentially, yes, potentially, potentially, I, you know, I'm not the I'm not the all things on this. But, you know, my, my theory is, you know, use your powers for good. Yeah. And, you know, we're getting ready to our next version. With with working closely with Google, hopefully, we're gonna get an early release of their new language model, that also includes the includes AI. So being able to better provide a better trans transcription experience, your voice to text is actually going to be more accurate. And also working on being able to segment people's voices, and ultimately using that as a security model. So as we identify, this is Michael Hinkson speaking, and in the back end, it creates a digital thumbprint that every time you're you're now you're now speaking, that it actually authenticates that it's you. Right. And it will also provide security from Ai duplication. You know, that's a one of the big focuses that we Been looking at these different different programs duplicate, you know, Morgan Freeman, like, obviously it's not Morgan Freeman speaking, it was the AI speaking like Morgan Freeman. And that's what we want to, you know, basically safeguard. We want to safeguard your voice, there's been too many incidents that I've come across where voice has been captured, manipulated and used for malicious.   Michael Hingson ** 35:43 Although I've said to, to a few people, jokingly, I know I'll really have arrived when I can hear John Wayne read The Hobbit. You even imagine that? Yeah, but you know, and, and the reality is, it's ultimately going to come down to how we use it and how we treat it. And it's going to be up to us. And that all comes down to moral compasses, and so on. Here's a question regarding your app, have you thought of, or is the capability coming are there where a person who's deaf or hard of hearing can sign the phone can pick it up and translate that into text or to voice that is spoken out by the phone,   Travis Michael ** 36:34 there is technology, I have even seen gloves that have been developed. And, you know, a lot of that is, you know, they're already using some of that movement stuff with, with robots, you know, as they've been, you know, focusing on you know, wrote a hand robotic hand going in acting like a human hand, you know, maybe even like, creating bionic hands for people that maybe we've lost a hand and the transfer of energy and those types of things. So, that's a little bit further outside of our scope. For this, we really wanted to start small.   Michael Hingson ** 37:18 Sure, no, I appreciate that. But the reason I asked the question probably is reasonably obvious. If I'm communicating with a person who is deaf and who doesn't speak, I can't see their signing. And so the question is, how will I communicate with him now, there are some technologies, for example, there is a device that a person can type on, and it will produce Braille at the other end, and obviously, you can type on a computer. And with voice technology, it can be heard, but it just seemed like it would be intriguing and interesting to think about the concept of the app, being able to take advantage of the camera on a smartphone, to see the person signing and verbalize that, but I don't know, all the ins and outs of the pluses and minuses of how hard that would be. My first job out of college was actually working with Ray Kurzweil, the developer of Omni font OCR. And that's when I also first got introduced to artificial intelligence because his first machines would reprint and the more they read, the higher the competence they gained of being able to read material, especially when characters were somewhat degraded, and it actually learned. But it just seemed like an illogical interesting idea might be for this. If signing is uniform enough, where a software package could be taught to interpret signing, if that could be the case, it would be trivial to then output it to voice because the phones already have the ability to talk anyway.   Travis Michael ** 39:02 Is there anything that like, would you know, I'm thinking I'm thinking of like hardware is there is like a, like a Bluetooth. Maybe, like a Bluetooth device where maybe as it would be typing, or as it would play out of the phone speaker. It could also be like felt, you know?   Michael Hingson ** 39:29 Oh, yeah, I mean, there are ways that there are refreshable braille displays that I can connect to my iPhone so that I can turn the speech off completely and use just the Braille display, to read whatever's coming across the phone, but I'm thinking of the other end of it is the person inputting information. And so I was thinking that if a person who was deaf signed how II See, would it be for that signing to be interpreted? Because if you said, you know, A through G, well, if somebody signs an A, can the phone be taught to recognize that a? If it can, then it doesn't matter what the output is, it could be outputted directly to the phone speaker or it could go to a Braille display or whatever. It's the recognition of the sign. That's the issue. Yeah.   Travis Michael ** 40:28 I think that might be something we tackle. As we start looking down the line. Whatever we get, we won't really want to get into AR augmented reality, like the Google Glasses and those types of things. Yeah. Because then as the person is speaking, you can then do like real life closed captioning. You could also do what you're talking about. So if I'm, I can actually, you know, sign. And then the AR, could then close caption the sign language, essentially? Well,   Michael Hingson ** 41:07 yeah. Well, yeah, I could close caption it. But the idea is that if it recognize the signing, then the output part today is very straightforward. Yes, it could close caption it and put it on a screen. Or since it's recognized it, it could just as easily go through the voiceover screen reader on the phone to verbalize it. Yeah, none of that's the problem. The issue is recognizing what is being signed from the signer. And so as you said, og augmented reality, if that's the way to do it. But anyway, it's an intriguing idea. And it would open up some interesting vehicles for communication, which, which would be kind of cool. So in addition to developing apps you work with, with other companies, and I know you're kind of almost a global chief marketing officer in a lot of ways, aren't you?   Travis Michael ** 42:05 Yeah, absolutely. You know, the companies bring me in to kind of turn their brand around, and not just turn their brand around, but, you know, help them embrace technology for for operational purposes, you know, that there's like, for instance, this new website has kind of acted as they're another sales tool, they website doesn't take a day off, it's there, you know, so being a collection hub for the for that business, and, you know, finding unique problems, and you're getting them getting their teams to kind of cheerlead the path forward. So working, I'll typically come in, I'll work very closely with the president CEO, to understand where they're where their mindset and leadership is, and help them prepare for the next steps, what their teams can be expecting time that their teams need to be allocating to these different projects, right? It's not just me, I don't just come in and wave a wand, and tada, here it is, their teams, your things will change dynamics will shift, you know, how do a step that you once did, or maybe three steps that you once did, are now done in one step? Because something system was optimized. So that's where I come in, but I also have to make sure that, you know, you know, maybe they what was done, what was once done was was wasn't done in vain. Like it was there. It was it some things are grandfathered in, that maybe aren't necessary, and a new system can be put in place. So,   Michael Hingson ** 44:14 companies are are always looking for or should be looking for ways to improve their processes. And I've talked to a couple of people on unstoppable mindset who were very much involved in trying to help companies really reorganize their basically their way of doing business, their, their way of getting things done inside the company, and so on. And so I appreciate exactly what you're saying, which is it's all about trying to become more efficient, and trying to have the best processes possible.   Travis Michael ** 44:49 Yeah, and I've there's a really good John Maxwell book. He's John Maxwell. If you read anything of his you'll be better for reading it. He's just one of those guys that has a very, very deep message. And I just read his book as good Leaders Ask Great Questions. And you really have to start asking great questions, if you're in this in a position of leadership. And, you know, I ask questions to prepare my, the companies that I work with, I don't ask questions to be nosy, or judgmental, I ask questions because I need to understand what their starting points are, what have they done? Where are they at? And how can they move forward? And that's a lot. And then I provide training around different aspects around that model. And they've, they've been proven to be very helpful and healthy and business's understanding their why why are they doing this? Who are they talking to? And what is the message behind what they're doing? And I'll take all of that, run it through my marketing machines, my branding, machines, design, technology, audits, all of that. Understand your industry, and, you know, what your, what your end goal is. And some of the companies, you know, I work with companies that are our profit, nonprofit, and defense, and they they all have many different hats in many different industries. And one industry does this, this, but not this, and then another company will go, Oh, I do not this, this and this, but we work together, and it's their partnerships. And there's something to be said about partnerships. That can really be beneficial, especially when you find people that are moving in the same direction as you.   Michael Hingson ** 47:11 Well, and, you know, one of the most important things that we can do as human creatures is to ask questions, it's it is curiosity, it is trying to learn, and when you're asking questions of company leaders, to help focus them in is clearly also helping you.   Travis Michael ** 47:33 Yeah. You know, and one of the great questions is, what books are you reading? Yeah. What books are you reading? Because I need to know that, that they have, if there's a point that I'm trying to get across, it's going to be better if I can, if I have a client read a book, or read a chapter, and then he can go, Okay, I see what you're saying. Now, here's how they overcame that. And, for me, it's a wonderful thing. It's a, you know, diagnose prescribe model, that hell helps me from the, you know, just giving book recommendations as and that has even even reading for me has been a huge shift. That was never me. That was never me. I was Bye, bye. Your kids are my little cousin graduated the other day. And my grandma was like, Oh, my goodness, she's on the Dean's list or the you know, the high dean's list and you know, forgetting being on the Dean's list for so long. I was like, that's wonderful. And I just kind of snickered I got you know, that was never May.   Michael Hingson ** 48:57 I love to read a lot of fiction, which I do for relaxing. But I also do like to read nonfiction. One of my favorite books, and I quoted often in one way or another in speeches is The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni, which is really, I think, the best short book that I found that describes what a good team should be and how to get there and I also love some of the Malcolm Gladwell books. I really enjoyed reading David and Goliath. Again, he puts a lot of things in perspective.   Travis Michael ** 49:35 Yeah. It's seeing the Go Giver. The Go Giver is wonderful. Yeah. Being able to get yourself into a, a mindset. And this person is struggling in sales. And he's like, there's this guy in the back that I swear I maybe see once every week and he's never We're here and all whenever he's here, he's just kind of feet up and kick back and everybody seems to love him. And if he's like, how does this guy do it? He's kind of getting the same sales. He's like, sales professional, he's, but he's, it's such like, what's the difference between sales and business development? Right. And so that was that's when things really changed and he was able to get understand mentorship. So if you're trying to understand mentorship, and that's a really good one as well. Let's see, Jocko willing and feel like Jocko is if I like I, my I I'm not I'm not really much of a reader, I audio books. I'm writing and I'm reading all day long. So by the end of the day, my eyes read Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 50:55 I love audiobooks. And they're becoming more prevalent. audio book sales continue to be on the rise, which is great. Even as print, sales have gone down some. And I think ebook sales are going up, but audio books are great. And even for people who are blind and so on the Library of Congress has a number of programs. And they're they're coming out with new programs to make access more easy and usable on things like smart speakers like the Echo, and so on, which is great. So I can turn a book on an echo now and listen to it while I'm either cooking or maybe not even doing anything else. But I can do it from any echo device in the house. Once the the app while the skill was activated, then every echo knows about it. So I can stop reading in one room and come back tomorrow and be in another room and tell it to pick up right where we left off. And it does, which is great. makes reading a lot more convenient.   Travis Michael ** 52:03 So for those who aren't familiar with how the echo work is it just you have like a main hub. And then like speakers in like multiple rooms,   Michael Hingson ** 52:11 no. Um, so the Echo is what they call a smart speaker. So there are echoes or echo dots. And Echo shows a lot of different ones, some have screens on them, and so on. But you connect it to your network. And then it communicates with, I assume the Amazon server that coordinates whatever goes on with echoes. And so you can have four or five echoes around the house. And I can go to one and I can say what's the temperature outside and it will tell me and so on. But there is the skill that actually the Library of Congress, the National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped is, is creating, it's called My Talking books. And it's a skill that runs on the echo. So I can tell an a device to open the app, my talking books, and then I can say, let's say I'm starting from scratch, I could say open or find the Go get the Go Giver. And assuming it's in the collection, which is not a given at all. But assuming it's in the collection, it will find it from my voice input. And then it can start reading it. So I can read for an hour and then quit and come back. And if I have several echo devices around the house, I can go to any one of them because they all communicate with the same Amazon server somewhere in the world. And I can pick up right where I left off. But I find the Echo to be a really handy device for a lot of different things, whether it's even just doing whether I use it to control my home security system. Even turning the lights on and off and making sure they're off because I don't see them. And when my wife was alive, she was used a wheelchair. So it was also a lot easier if she were on the bed to just tell the system to turn on light. So it's really handy.   Travis Michael ** 54:15 So do you typically walk around the house with the lights off? Or?   Michael Hingson ** 54:20 Yeah, mostly I do I don't need to have them on. So my wife has passed so I you know we have solar so it doesn't really matter a lot but   Travis Michael ** 54:28 but that helps you with your electricity bill. Hmm, yeah, it   Michael Hingson ** 54:31 does a lot anyway, but I but I don't turn the lights on at night. So far it hasn't bothered the dog or the cat a whole lot. So it's just the three of us. There we go. But if they're sighted people in the house, I do like to help my light dependent friends by turning the lights on for they   Travis Michael ** 54:51 defended friends. I love it. You know?   Michael Hingson ** 54:55 Well, light dependency is a disability. It's just that technology is covered it up by Thomas Edison. and inventing the electric light bulb, but it doesn't mean that it isn't there. Well, above it, tell us about your book that you're writing. Yeah. So   Travis Michael ** 55:10 writing a book that it's really kind of about my my background, and, you know, really challenging family dynamics and being able to help break generational curses, and the through some of the events that I've experienced, that have kind of shaped me into who I am as a person, and you know, how I've developed some understandings about myself and kind of some really funny, really crazy, very serious events, you know, and I really wanted to share this because it the show was that a lot of the struggles that I went through, I went through myself, because if they've they've challenged a lot of my trust issues. And so if I understood that I went through it myself, and I'm sure that many others out there are going through challenging family dynamics as well. And I want to be able to help them, give them my share my perspective, and maybe maybe it helps them to, you know, kind of get over the some of some of their hurdles that they're having. And, you know, I'll kind of leave leave it with this. It's, it's forgiveness isn't always about, you know, forgiving. Let, it's not, it's not for the other person. Yeah. Forgiveness is for you. Yes. And you have, it's also about building a forgiving heart. Because we're human. And if all we can just be better humans, and develop forgiving hearts, I feel like this, this world would be in such a better place, and being able to move forward, and even build, build boundaries, you know, sometimes you just because you forgive, doesn't mean, you know, it's I, sometimes it's, it's good to kind of create that, that space to allow yourself to grow. But, you know, but having those spaces and you're still holding on to that, that old junk. It's,   Michael Hingson ** 57:27 it haven't really forgiven yet. Haven't really forgiven yet. And I, one of the things I talk about a lot are dogs, needless to say, and I talk about the difference between dogs and people in the dogs do love unconditionally, I believe that I watched a 60 minutes show the other day that talked about the difference between dogs and wolves. And there are actually physiological genetic differences, that they've been able to pinpoint, basically, what they call the friendly gene and a dog, and then we'll stone house. But I think dogs love unconditionally, but they don't trust unconditionally, what they are, however, unless they are, had they've truly been overly traumatized by something. Dogs are open to trust. And that's the difference between them and us. We're always into what if what if this person really is not interested in gaining my trust? Or what if they're going to abuse, the trust and all that, and we, we have become so mistrustful that we tend not to recognize any more the value and being open to the idea of trust. Now, if somebody doesn't earn our trust, okay, then we recognize that and we move on. But if somebody can, and we're open to that, what a wonderful thing.   Travis Michael ** 58:48 Yeah, it's being able to, you know, create that kind of space for yourself. It's, you have to be able to, you know, trust yourself a that, that you've gotten this far. And, and being able to continue to push forward. And, and build, build things, create things, you know, in love you loving what you're doing. And if you're not loving what you're doing, then you need to take the time outside of what you're doing, and figure out what it is and push towards what you want to do.   Michael Hingson ** 59:26 Yeah. And recognize that there are probably lots of people out there who would be really happy to support you. You'd be shocked. Yeah, absolutely would be shocked at the number of people who, if they really understood we'd be willing to support you. Well, so what's the name of the new book and when can we see it?   59:47 So the new book is called Honor thy father's and it really pushes towards the you know, the father dynamics and push towards you know, mentorship and Understanding how important it is to seek mentorship and being a good mentee. And, you know, I first discovered mentorship in Toastmasters, and Toastmasters is a an international public speaking organization. Wherever you're at in the world, I'm sure there's one nearby you, if you're trying to get better at public speaking, and really shed, that skin that has kind of kept you in this box. You know, Toastmasters is a wonderful organization, to be able to stretch your speaking skills in front of a supportive group of people who are trying to achieve similar results. So within that group, I, you know, that's something that I had to really sink in it within that group. They gave me a mentor. And I didn't know what a mentor was. And, you know, at some points, I was probably not a really good mentee, if I'm being honest, because I was kind of in my own head doing my own thing. And I've graduated from that. And we're wonderful friends and hate you. So he, he's my public speaking mentor, well, he's not he's he's in he's, we've also done develop great relationships and in sales and talking to people in systems and in growth, and he has a wonderful mindset. And but then, then there's other things and I've learned about mentorship, and so many other places that have provided me wealth and growth. So the the book is, we're we're looking to come out with it in the fall. But we are going to launch the marketing for it on Father's Day, ironically, so you can catch Honor thy father's. And I'll be promoting that. You can follow travel media, online and travel media group on Facebook, travis media, or I think it's Travis dot media, on Instagram, on tick tock, travis media as well. So you   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:13 have a picture of the book cover.   Travis Michael ** 1:02:17 design that right now. So as soon as we we get that out, I'll be sending it over to Mike,   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:23 please, because we will put that in the show notes, by all means.   Travis Michael ** 1:02:27 Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm sure. But I think by the time that we published this, I'll have the show. I'll have the graphic ready for you.   Michael Hingson ** 1:02:35 Perfect. And any other pictures and other things that you want us to have? Well, I want to thank you, Travis once again for being with us today. This has been enjoyable and fun. We spend a lot of time talking about the app and I'm gonna have to go play with it and, and maybe give you some feedback, or at least learn a little bit myself, which will be kind of cool. Absolutely. Absolutely.   Travis Michael ** 1:02:58 Looking forward to hearing and hearing your feedback, Mike.   Michael Hingson ** 1:03:01 But I really enjoyed today and I hope you did as well. And I hope all of you listening did we appreciate you doing so? So, enjoy it and get a hold of Travis let him know but I would appreciate hearing from you as well. We would love a five star rating from you wherever you're listening to unstoppable mindset. Five Star Ratings are greatly appreciated. You can also email me at Michaelhi M I C H A E L H I at accessibe A C C E S S I B E.com. Love to hear any thoughts you have, as well as suggestions for others that you think we ought to have an unstoppable mindset. We're always looking to make new friends. You can also go to our podcast page www dot Michael hinkson.com/podcast Michael Hanson is m i c h a e l h i n g s o n.com/podcast. We'd love for you to go there. And you can leave comments there as well. But either way, please keep us posted. Let us know and trap us likewise, if you know anyone who want to come on love to to get your thoughts and you know we'll have to do this again. Especially once the book is out and you start getting comments and all that we'd love to catch up with you again on this.   Travis Michael ** 1:04:13 Absolutely. Thank you for your time, Michael, I greatly appreciate it.   **Michael Hingson ** 1:04:21 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m i c h a e l h i n g s o n. While you're on the site., please use the form there to recommend people who we ought to interview in upcoming editions of the show. And also, we ask you and urge you to invite your friends to join us in the future. If you know of any one or any organization needing a speaker for an event, please email me at speaker at Michael hingson.com. I appreciate it very much. To learn more about the concept of blinded by fear, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com forward slash blinded by fear and while you're there, feel free to pick up a copy of my free eBook entitled blinded by fear. The unstoppable mindset podcast is provided by access cast an initiative of accessiBe and is sponsored by accessiBe. Please visit www.accessibe.com. accessiBe is spelled a c c e s s i b e. There you can learn all about how you can make your website inclusive for all persons with disabilities and how you can help make the internet fully inclusive by 2025. Thanks again for listening. Please come back and visit us again next week.

Tom Jenkins and Michael Hanson sit down to talk about manifestation, visualisation and the law of attraction.Often viewed negatively or as a bit of a spirituality buzzword, they dive deep into the topic, the power manifestation can actually bring, and what people often miss.Afterall, if manifestation comes without action, it means nothing and ultimately is negative. But when coupled with action…Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro1.33 - Taking Action3.04 - Honesty and Manifestation4.22 - Getting Specific6.43 - The Process9.18 - Getting to the Top12.10 - Steps to Take14.30 - The Snowball Effect14.57 - Habits and Ask for It16.12 - Outro and Takeaways(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Tom Jenkins and Michael Hanson sit down to talk about how it's often in our darkest moments, that we find our passion, light and happiness.From touching on stories of previous episodes, to sharing their own personal journeys, they see how people have transformed very dark and difficult experiences into the magic of their daily life.Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro1.05 - Tom's Journey from Dark to Light3.29 - The Shadow9.46 - The Concept of Time13.41 - Self-Forgiveness15.33 - Leading by Example19.31 - Dealing with Darkness24.48 - Treating Yourself with Love26.23 - Outro and Takeaways(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Tom Jenkins and Michael Hanson sit down to talk about all things breathing, meditation and breathwork.We've had a number of guests touch on this topic from Lucy Pattinson to Shaun Doherty and we wanted to go deeper discussing some of their lessons and our experiences.From controlling stress and anxiety, to opening up different states of reality and dreams, there's so much more to the breath than just survival.Find out more here.Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro1.09 - Tom's Breathing Experiences2.28 - Box Breathing3.07 - Mistakes with Meditation6.30 - When to Meditate?8.33 - Intense Breathwork14.38 - Understanding your Experiences17.12 - Meditation and Ceremonies18.47 - Have We Forgotten How to Breath?20.03 - Outro and Takeaways(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Tom Jenkins and Michael Hanson sit down to talk about their journey's with alcohol.From growing up with a heavy binge drinking lifestyle to now being practically non-drinkers, they discuss how their relationship with alcohol evolved and changed with time.What are the benefits this brought them? What lessons did they learn? What advice would they have for others looking to make a similar change?Listen and find out more.To listen to the episode with Ruari Fairbairns:- From Boozy Oil Broker to Sobriety & Wellness Entrepreneur: https://tinyurl.com/2baw3ynkCosmic Bridge Website: https://thecosmicbridge.com/Podcast Chapters:0.00 - Intro and Trailer1.49 - Tom's Journey with Alcohol5.07 - Alcohol and Confidence7.06 - Quitting Alcohol12.30 - Michael's Journey with Alcohol18:00 - Don't Cut Yourself Off25.16 - People's Relationship with Alcohol is Changing31.31 - What Advice Would You Have for Someone Looking to Change Their Relationship with Alcohol?36.12 - The Snowball Effect and Benefits43.41 - What's Been the Biggest Benefit?45.41 - Takeaways and Outro(Michael Hanson is the host of the COSMIC Bridge podcast that inspires its listeners to find their higher purpose and connect their material and spiritual life through stories of breathwork teachers, shamans and stroke survivors. He is also the CEO of Growth Genie, an international B2B sales consultancy)

Nora Szentivanyi and Michael Hanson discuss the latest global inflation developments and how the incoming data are shaping our views. In  this month's edition we highlight  our recent research on the likely impact from El Niño and our forecast for US core inflation to prove sticky around 3%.    Speakers Nora Szentivanyi, Global Economic Research Michael Hanson, Economic and Policy Research   This podcast was recorded on 25 July 2023 This communication is provided for information purposes only. Institutional clients can view the related report https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4469084-0, https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4461348-0, https://www.jpmm.com/research/content/GPS-4454302-0 for more information; please visit www.jpmm.com/research/disclosures for important disclosures. © 2023 JPMorgan Chase & Co. All rights reserved.

Michael loves wrestling with ideas, and thinking about ways to live for God. His passion is for us to be all that God created us be and to transform the world with the Gospel. Michael's background includes pastoral ministry, theological education and cross-cultural mission. Now he oversees the GC3 team. He also works closely with Bright Hope World.Michael is married to Carolyn, and they have four adult children. Carolyn and Michael attend Orewa Community Church in Auckland.Music by: Irene & the SleepersLogo by: Jill EllisWebsite: brokenbanquetpodcast.comContact Us: brokenbanquetpodcast@gmail.com

This week we record live from the Minnesota Muskie Expo. We cover a variety of topics that include - Talking to the Rosemount Fishing Team, how to approach a cold front, tactics for catching following fish, breaking down new water, solo fishing, and the guide panel talks briefly about their personal best musky catches. The guide panel includes - Matt Seifert, Jeff Van Remortel, Luke Swanson, Jeremy Smith, Austin Wiggerman, Michael Hanson, Steve Herbeck, Dave Schueck, and DJ Chupita. If you need gear for your next musky fishing adventure visit Team Rhino Outdoors (www.teamrhinoooutdoors.com) and Musky Mayhem Tackle (www.muskymayhemtackle.com)