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Michael Fullan, the internationally known authority on educational leadership and proponent of whole system reform, joins us for this episode. No doubt, many of you listeners have been influenced by Michael's work over the years. The former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education and Professor Emeritus of the University of Toronto, he is co-leader of the New Pedagogies for Deep Learning global initiative, served as Premier Dalton's Special Policy Adviser in Ontario from 2003-2013, and received the Order of Canada (OC) in December 2012.Michael is the author of numerous books, including the focus of today's episode: The Principal 2.0: Three Keys to Maximizing Impact (Jossey-Bass).We discuss:The Principal 2.0 (2023) is 90% new material from The Principal (2014). We cover the events that caused Michael to undertake such a significant revisitation.The disruptions of the past few years are forcing change in schools – which can turn out for better or worse depending on the evolving role of the principal. What forces have traditionally boxed principals into a narrower role?Spirit WorkGlobal evidence for these principlesSystemness in Action Connected Autonomy The Drivers – system change from the bottom upReasons for optimism about the futureFind The Principal 2.0 here: https://bit.ly/3TYJZx4 About today's guestMichael Fullan is an internationally known authority on educational leadership. Professor emeritus at the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education at the University of Toronto, Fullan is Global Co-Director of New Pedagogies for Deep Learning. He is an adviser and consultant on major education reform initiatives around the world. His previous books include Change Leader, The Six Secrets of Change, and Leading in a Culture of Change. Learn more: https://michaelfullan.ca/About the hostRoss Romano is a co-founder of the Be Podcast Network and CEO of September Strategies, a coaching and consulting firm that helps organizations and high-performing leaders in the K-12 education industry communicate their vision and make strategic decisions that lead to long-term success. Connect on Twitter @RossBRomano or https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossromano I also host Sideline Sessions, a podcast for coaches and parents of student-athletes. The show features conversations with coaches and performance experts in the NFL, NBA, NCAA, Olympics, and more. Listen here: https://bit.ly/3Rp0QGt We're thrilled to be sponsored by IXL and MyFlexLearning. IXL's comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you simplify and streamline technology, reliably meet Tier 1 standards, improve assessment performance, and more. Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.MyFlexLearning is the scheduling platform that helps middle and high schools meet the individual needs of all students. Create and manage time for flex blocks, WIN time, activity periods, RTI, counselor and teacher appointments and much more. And with a built-in accountability tool and reporting features, solve your challenges around getting kids where they need to be and understanding how flex time is spent. Make your flex time work for you. Visit myflexlearning.com/BE to learn more and receive $500 off the first year. 

I must say at the outset that my time with Glenn Gow on this episode was incredibly enjoyable and I hope you find it the same. I love to learn as I have said to you many times and today I learned a lot. Glenn hails from Florida. He obtained colleges degrees in business and then spent much time in marketing and even some in sales. He worked with many large companies and especially with their CEOs. A few years ago he decided to help C suite level people by becoming a CEO coach where he could impart the many of years of experience he gained in the technology world. Glenn is absolutely a visionary in many ways. He and I talk a great deal about AI. I love Glenn's observations as he explains that AI is a tool, not a threat. Listen in and hear his reasoning. About the Guest: Glenn Gow is a CEO Coach, a Keynote Speaker on AI, and a Board Member The implications of AI for every single business are shocking. We're all rethinking how we work, and how we can transform our offerings with the power of AI. It's incredibly exciting, and a little terrifying on how to keep up. Glenn Gow is a CEO Coach, a Keynote Speaker on AI, and a Board Member. Glenn understands exactly what we, as leaders, need to harness this technology. Glenn will be helping us understand the implications for business, and how to harness this technology. You will walk away with an arsenal of information. Glenn is a sought-after speaker on AI and has spoken at The Wall Street Journal AI Conference, the National Association of Corporate Directors, MIT/Stanford Venture Lab, Harvard Business School, The Private Directors Association, Silicon Valley Directors Exchange, Financial Executives Networking Group, The Entrepreneur's Organization, and the Northern California Venture Capital Association. He writes an AI column for Forbes and has been published in Directors & Boards, Directorship (NACD), CIO Magazine, Inc. Magazine, and InfoWorld. As a CEO for 25 years, he advised numerous leading tech companies including Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and many more. Speaker Reel: https://bit.ly/SpeakerGlenn Ways to connect with Glenn: LinksWebsite: https://www.glenngow.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenngow About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes Michael Hingson ** 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.   Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well, hi there and welcome to another episode of unstoppable mindset. I am your host, Mike Hingson. And our guest today is Glenn Gow. And Glenn is a very knowledgeable soul regarding artificial intelligence. He is a board member he speaks on AI he is a coach. And I don't know what else and when he first joined this afternoon, I pulled an old joke that maybe a lot of you wouldn't know. We used to on television, watch commercials for Memorex tape, which was really good stuff. And when he came on, I said, the question we got to ask is, are we live? Or are we Memorex? Because that's a, a thing that Memorex did. And their point was, you couldn't tell the difference. I never bought that, though, because I could tell the difference. But the Max was pretty good, wasn't   Glenn Gow ** 02:11 it? It was, it was pretty good.   Michael Hingson ** 02:14 I actually still have some blank Memorex cassettes. So Oh, there you go. You're a collector. So Glenn, welcome to unstoppable mindset. We're really glad you're here. Really happy   Glenn Gow ** 02:25 to be here, Michael. And thank you for the introduction. And I'm looking forward to the conversation.   Michael Hingson ** 02:30 And also Glenn is a board member will have to find out about that along the way as well. And that's board is in being on a board not being board. But you know what? So tell us a little about the the early Glenn growing up and all that sort of stuff?   Glenn Gow ** 02:45 Well, I grew up in a wonderful family that supported learning, Michael. And so everything we did was about becoming a little bit better than the way we were, whether it was being happier in life or being more productive or making better friends. And we were always thinking about how can we just be a little bit better. And the wonderful thing about that, is that turns you into a learning machine on any topic. So whether I'm coaching my CEOs, or I'm studying AI, I'm very, very interested in learning and becoming better. And so it's something that I learned at a very early age and it's become part of who I am.   Michael Hingson ** 03:31 Did you grow up in California? I grew up in Florida and Florida. Okay. Laura   Glenn Gow ** 03:39 eventually went to business school at Harvard. And then came out to California. Ah,   Michael Hingson ** 03:46 yeah, as we were talking about earlier, can't beat the weather. No, no. I think the absolute best weather is San Diego but you know, California in general has great weather.   Glenn Gow ** 04:01 I feel very spoiled, spoiled where I am in Northern California right now. So I have no complaints. We   Michael Hingson ** 04:06 lived in Novato for several for 12 years and in an area called Bell marine keys which was a community that was developed in the early 1970s They wanted to make it look like Venice, Italy. So every house is on a lagoon or a channel in between lagoons and either they have docks or their dock ready and it was so nice to be there. That sounds really nice. Yeah, we're far enough away from like highway 101 that you could hear it if you really worked at it at night and it were quiet no wind, but mostly it was just a nice wonderful community and we loved it a lot. Fantastic. So you you grew up in Florida and all that and really devoted your your life to learning so you got a business degree and then where did you go from from Harvard and getting I assume about Bachelor's in business?   Glenn Gow ** 05:02 A master's in business? Okay, yeah. And then the most important part of my history was I worked for a startup immediately after business school, which quickly failed, happens. And then well, that's an important very important learning process. And then lucky enough to work at Oracle when it was a relatively small company. And I worked, I was the first person in the marketing function within sales. In other words, I was doing both sales and marketing. And that was an incredible experience, as the company grew from fairly small to a billion dollars in revenue, which is tiny by, by today's standards, yeah. And then I stepped out to start my own company, where we focused on helping technology companies on marketing strategy. And so we had the opportunity to work with Apple, to work with Facebook, and Google, and Microsoft, and Oracle, and IBM and every large technology company. I did that for 25 years as a CEO. Now, importantly, Michael, during that time, I had a coach for 17 years. This was my co coach. And I knew a lot about business. And my co coach, interestingly enough, didn't really know all that much about business. But she did know something that I didn't know, which was the mind of the CEO, and the mental game, and how to become an even better CEO. So I take all of that experience, having run a company, and having been coach for so long. And I use that every day now. So I was lucky enough to be recruited into venture capital, after I ran the marketing consultancy. And that's when I started coaching CEOs, the CEOs of our portfolio companies, and having been through a startup that had failed before I could truly empathize with the life of CEOs. And then I took all of that coaching and business knowledge. And I found that CEOs really got value out of our conversations. So much so that I fell in love with that. And I've been doing that full time now for three years. Because a lot   Michael Hingson ** 07:28 of them, although they were CEOs, got into it, for whatever reason, but weren't necessarily as knowledgeable as they needed to be about being a CEO.   Glenn Gow ** 07:39 Exactly right. And as long as Michael, as long as they have that mindset, this is how I described it, the mindset is that every great athlete has a coach, and some of them have many coaches. And you ask yourself, Why does someone who's at the top of their game, have a coach, it's because it coach helps them become even better. And if you have that mentality, as a CEO, you are going to improve every day, if you put your mind into that process of improvement, and that's what I'm here to do with my CEOs?   Michael Hingson ** 08:14 And do you still have a coach,   Glenn Gow ** 08:18 I do not currently have a coach, I am looking for a coach. I have advisors. But here's something that's interesting, that you made me think about Michael, is that I coached 20 CEOs. That's about as many as I want to coach. And I learned something from them every time I coach them. Mm hmm. And so I want to share those best practices with my other CEOs. So I feel like even though I don't have a coach working directly with me, not right now. I'm learning every day through my interactions with my CEOs. And I'm able to share that information with all of them on what best practices I just heard about.   Michael Hingson ** 09:03 Yeah. And I would think that the best CEOs are people who, at least in part, adopt a learning mindset, because if you think you know it all, you'll sometime and maybe sometime soon, discover it isn't really that way.   Glenn Gow ** 09:20 Let me give you a statistic that I discovered when I was in venture capital. roughly 60% of CEOs get fired within a five year period in the venture backed world, and you ask yourself, why did they get fired? The simple answer is they're not growing the company fast enough. But then you say, why is the CEO not growing the company fast enough? It's because they are not growing themselves fast enough. In other words, when they became the CEO and the venture capitalists put money into them, they were probably the perfect person for that company at that time at that size. But as the company negros takes on new employees, new customers, new investors, it requires that the CEO have new skill sets, and improve skill sets in order to succeed with this company that's transforming. I call it scaling the CEO. Right? And that's what I do. I help the CEO become even better.   Michael Hingson ** 10:24 And that's an important thing to occur if you're dealing with people who are supposed to be the leaders of companies and the people who are either the visionaries for the company, or somehow promote and create whatever is necessary to create the visioning for the company.   Glenn Gow ** 10:46 That's right. Exactly. Right. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 10:49 Yeah. And, you know, I, I have said several times on this podcast that if I'm not learning at least as much as anybody else, listening to this podcast on any given episode, that I'm not doing my job, well, and I have been so value in my mindset of being able to learn from everyone who's been on board, it's in who's come on as guests. It's great. It's a lot of fun. And I get to learn a lot. And I can't complain about that a bit. Well, it's   Glenn Gow ** 11:18 a win win win.   Michael Hingson ** 11:19 It is, as far as I'm concerned, and I enjoy doing it. It's, it's so much fun. Well, so you've you've been doing the coaching process for at least a few years, have you become certified as a coach? Or do you just do it or what?   Glenn Gow ** 11:35 I am not certified, nor am I ever going to get certified. I look at my 17 years of training from my personal coach. As as as the as the experience of learning through that I don't, I don't, gosh, I just feel lucky to have had that experience. And don't feel like there's any value. For me personally, writing certification isn't good. But for me personally, it just doesn't make any sense. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 12:03 and I agree, I've, I've thought about that. Some people have suggested that I should explore doing more in the coaching world. And one of the ways I think that I could add value in the coaching world today is that is we have an aging population and a younger population dealing with an aging population. We don't have any really substantive all around coaches dealing with blindness and low vision, who can guide people so it is it is something that I've been looking at and seriously thinking about happening. I think it would be a fun thing. And I think it would be a valuable thing if we can give good suggestions to people and help them deal with something that we shouldn't have to deal with. But we but we do in the shouldn't have to is that society rose up and learns that blindness is a big, severe, serious problem. And the reality is, it's not blindness, it's people's attitudes about blindness, because people who happen to be blind or low vision, can do the same things other people just we may not do it the same way. And we also tend to make our world because there are a whole lot more sighted people than blind people, we make our world side oriented. But that still doesn't mean that blindness is the problem.   Glenn Gow ** 13:26 That's right. That's right. And that made me think, Michael for a moment about AI and and the current some of the current interfaces with AI. And I think there's an incredible opportunity for people to interact with AI purely on a voice basis. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 13:46 Well, and that's true, although we type as well. But the the issue is really the, the having the input that AI gets from wherever it gets and guide it to provide good output and good ways to help. Exactly. Yeah, which is what AI is all about. What got you started in really thinking about and becoming more of a mentor and proponent of AI?   Glenn Gow ** 14:18 Well, first of all, I described myself this way, I'm a I'm an expert in AI at a niche, which is the sea level. So I'm an expert in talking about AI to to CEOs and the board. So I'm not going to talk about the technology. I'm gonna talk about the implications of the technology, right? Started, Michael was one of the great things about working in venture capital is that you can predict the future. You can predict the future because it's walking in the door every day in the guise of entrepreneurs who are telling you all the trends that are coming together and how they're going to take advantage of those trends. And when you see that 20th person walking In the door and talk to you about AI before it's being used anywhere, you can say I see something coming in our direction. And that's when I dove in. And that's when I said, I need to deeply understand the implications of what's happening here. And so I got very, very excited about it. Because, look, we all live through technology innovations. But AI is different from every other technology innovation. And the reason it's different is that it learns. And sometimes it learns all by itself. What does that mean? What does that mean is it means that it creates a flywheel effect. If it starts learning about your customers and your market and your products. And you feed it more data, it gets smarter all by itself. And that flywheel gets spinning and you progress, you gain market share, you gain revenue, you gain more insights. And if your competitors aren't doing that, they're using some other kind of technology. You're gonna leave them in the dust, they will not be able to catch up to you because of that flywheel because it's learning and getting better. Constantly.   Michael Hingson ** 16:16 Yeah, my first exposure to AI goes back to well, it's more learning, but it is still ai 1975 1976 with Dr. Ray Kurzweil, oh, well, and Ray's first development, his first invention was the Kurzweil Reading Machine for the blind. Well, first was Omni font, optical character recognition. And he chose as his first application to make a machine that would be able to scan any, and recognize any type or print or combination, I'm typing print fonts, but one of the things that Ray put into that machine was a learning feature. So the more that the machines scan, when I was reading a book, or anyone was reading a book, or anything that that was in print, the better the recognition was. And it did that all by itself. Amazing. And it was absolutely easy to see that happen over a few pages in a book. So I've been using and accepting the whole concept of machine learning, ever since that day, but of course, in the past several years, we've now seen AI go to incredibly whole new levels. And it's interesting, the the people who who are negative about it, and so on, I'm sitting here thinking, Alright, what, 30 years ago, or maybe 35, now we had the internet, or 30 years ago, we had the internet come along. And along with the internet, of course, there are the people who misuse it, and we have the dark web. And I think somebody should check out more of the dark web and see if it's accessible. And if not, we should sue some of those people. That'd be fun. But we have the dark web, and we don't get anywhere near although some people recognize the the problems with it. We don't get anywhere near the route from any of that, that we're getting from artificial intelligence today, which tells me people are starting to you know, they, they see the significance of it, but you know, we're dealing with a, with a world where people really aren't visiting it properly or visiting it enough?   Glenn Gow ** 18:34 Well, it's hard to predict what we're gonna see. And AI is just a tool, Michael, it didn't was that with any tool. It's going to be used for good and it could be used for bad. And so they're, they're bad people. And if they get hold of a tool, they're going to use that tool. And so we do need to be aware of that we do need to be concerned about that we need to ensure we have protections against that. Yep. Just like any tool. Yep. But the key thing is it's happening way faster than the experts ever predicted. And so what does that mean? That means that we as humans, need to move fast to keep up.   Michael Hingson ** 19:17 And we're dealing with, with a lot of change, and many people aren't used to changing or change happening that quickly. But it's the way it is.   Glenn Gow ** 19:26 Well, not only that, Michael, but most people don't like change.   Michael Hingson ** 19:30 No.   Glenn Gow ** 19:33 And if you don't like change, and change is happening and being part of the change requires you or enables you to be successful, then you're going to be left behind. So my favorite saying is AI is not going to take your job. A person who is using AI is going to take your job.   Michael Hingson ** 19:53 Yeah. And that's and that's something that makes perfect sense. And that's the way it will be but AI is ain't gonna do it. I don't see no matter how much AI learns, and can learn, there are things that people can do or have within them that are makeup that will allow them to continue to function and AI is not going to take over the world. It is not a Colossus The Forbin Project. Right? Right. And that was a good movie and a good book. But   Glenn Gow ** 20:27 the key is for us to ask ourselves, how do we get the most out of this tool. And so I want to share with you a story one of my CEOs shared with me Remember, I talked about sharing best practices from what I learned. So I'm a big proponent of AI, in that it holds tremendous value for companies of all kinds in all industries of all sizes. And so I'm encouraging my CEOs to do more in this area, so that they get a competitive advantage. One of my CEOs stood up at an all hands meeting in the company and said, I'm going to create an AI mandate, starting today. And for the next month, every single employee needs to use AI every day for a month. Now, I don't care what you do with AI, I don't care if what you do doesn't work. What I want is all of us to learn about AI. And so after a month, what I want each of you to do is report to your manager, what did you learn, because we're going to learn about the things that it doesn't do very well. We're going to learn about the things it does extraordinarily well. And then we're going to figure out how to leverage this tool so that we all can be more productive. I thought that was a brilliant way to introduce, because it's okay to fail is what the CEO was saying, and figure out your own experiments. And what came out of that was a whole slew of opportunities that no one imagined that AI could do. So the accounting department figured out, hey, I can write macros in my spreadsheet. Well, that's not what we knew when we when we began this experiment. And yet now we know we can do that.   Michael Hingson ** 22:21 And we can use it and speed up the process.   Glenn Gow ** 22:25 Exactly, exactly. And so many learnings, like that. And now this company is a highly innovative way of thinking about everything, and is going to do extremely well compared to their competitors, because they're embracing this amazing tool.   Michael Hingson ** 22:40 I've used chat GPT to help write some articles. Although I, I generate like five or six versions, and then I put them together, and then I add my own stuff to it. Because AI doesn't guess the saralee get everything well. But, of course, that's the case. But still, it has sped the process up so much. But it goes back to me giving it the right parameters to work with.   Glenn Gow ** 23:11 Exactly. And Michael give you a little tip. So when you think about interacting with a large language model, you want to you want to think about being in a dialogue with it. Not that you give it a prompt and hope for a good result. Right? You You work hard on the prompt, and it comes back with a result and it's okay to say that wasn't very good. Yeah, I think you missed a few major points. And you completely missed that I wanted this to have a perspective on the following. Yeah. It'll say, Gee, Michael, I'm sorry about that. I'm gonna go do another version of it. And so then we're just talking about writing a blog post here, let's say so let's, let's say it comes back with a one. That's it's pretty good now. All right, we'll say hey, that's pretty good. Now, what you can do is you can give it a prompt that lays out Michael Hanson's writing style. Michael likes to write in the following kind of prose, and he likes to use adjectives and active verbs, and he likes to use bullets, and he likes to use speak at a college level, and you can give it your style, so it'll take the output it created for you, and then it'll sound a lot more like Michael. Mm hmm. And then that's a good time to sit back and edit it, because you've already done a lot of the work through the prompting.   Michael Hingson ** 24:39 And it's all happened a lot faster than I would ever do it on my own. Absolutely.   Glenn Gow ** 24:44 Oh, I'll give you one more tip. So I created my style prompt. Right when I want to tell a large language model I want you to write like Glenn Gao. You know how I created this style prompt? Oh, I asked chit chat GPT Ready to do it for me? Here's all my writing. Now go evaluate my writing and tell me how you would describe my style.   Michael Hingson ** 25:12 How do you get bought on whether that's a good question for here, but I'll ask anyway, how do you show it your writing? There, there are aspects of, of the, of Chet GPT. And so on that I have to figure out how to do yet because it's not as accessible as it really could be. So I don't know how,   Glenn Gow ** 25:32 yeah, and so I won't, I won't spend a lot of time on it, because it's fairly complex. But you have to choose your best writing, you have to put it into a document and you probably are going to give it to a large language model that isn't Chachi btw that can read large documents, got it and then get the output from there. Okay, it's not easy to get there. But once you get there, now you have your style guideline.   Michael Hingson ** 25:55 And you can save that. Yeah, yeah. I presume you can save that and then tell it to use it again. When you next you Right,   Glenn Gow ** 26:02 exactly. Right. Yeah. So anyway, a little tips there. But that's just one small drop in this bucket of this amazing tool that is available to us.   Michael Hingson ** 26:11 Yeah. And it and it's only gonna get better. And it is so cool that it's there and does the things that it does. What is we're starting to hear more about this whole thing, this whole concept of generative AI, what does that?   Glenn Gow ** 26:25 Well, that's what we've been talking about generative AI, and that's where it generates. It fits within the world of large language models, and, and other models. And so let me back up a second and define it this way. So for almost seven years, we had what I'll call traditional AI. That still exists. And that's still actually even more important than generative AI, it's gonna have a bigger impact on the economy than generative AI. But generative AI is very, very new, we'll call it roughly two years old. And it creates content of various types. And I think the most impactful well, okay, the traditionally AI is much more about predicting outcomes, whereas generative actually creates outcomes for you. I think the greatest impact in the generative AI side is not going to be in language, it's not going to be in pictures, it's going to be in code, somewhere development code. And the reason I think the greatest impact is going to happen here is, Michael, if you get really good at writing articles, or blog posts, using a large language model, you might get, I don't know a few 1000 people to read what you've written. But if your team or if your team writes code, and it goes into a product, you might have millions of people. Now using something that was created using generative AI is going to be an enormous impact on the software development world, it's already starting.   Michael Hingson ** 28:05 And that makes sense. Well, and look, I think a lot of people don't know it. But the whole concept of AI was very actively used in developing as I understand that the mRNA vaccines for COVID. I believe that's true. I've heard I can't remember where I heard that. But I heard it from what I regard as a reliable source, as I recall.   Glenn Gow ** 28:28 No, it's very true, because that's more in the traditional AI realm. Yeah, where you feed the AI a lot of data and AI can see patterns in data that humans simply can't see. There's too much data, our brains aren't wired to see patterns in data. And AI can see patterns. And it could suggest particular experiments you might run based on the patterns it sees. Yeah, and that's one of the great things it's for. So in drug discovery, Michael, there's, there's a product. It's created by a division of Google called Deep Mind. And this product is called Alpha fold two. And what it does is something that I don't fully understand, because I'm not a scientist or a biologist. It does something called protein folding. So what is protein folding going to do for us? It's going to help cure diseases is what it's going to do. And this is a scientific problem that has existed for forever. Until within the last year or so. Google solved the problem using AI of protein folding. And what it does is it just opens up the ability for people, for scientists to develop new drugs and new protocols and new ways of looking at our DNA to cure diseases. And so we haven't we don't hear much about this yet, because we don't interact with something called Alpha. Fold two, we can't it's too complex. It's not an area we understand. But when it starts curing diseases, we're going to start paying attention to what's happening in the pharma world, in the healthcare world in the scientific world.   Michael Hingson ** 30:14 And, you know, the reality is, no matter what the downsides, in terms of bad actors who do things with AI, there are so many more people who will do good things with it. And it is still very well, and it probably always will be, but it's it is very much an evolutionary process. And we're new to the whole process. That's right.   Glenn Gow ** 30:38 That's right. And we have to think of it too. There are a lot of races happening here. Michael, I talked one about one race being the flywheel effect race, where I'm, I'm in on a business and I'm competing with other individual companies to be successful. So I need to take advantage of what AI can offer to me so that I can get into that flywheel improvement, continual improvement cycle and beat my competitors. That's one race we have. We have another race against at the at the at the national level, we have a race against China. China, has committed to becoming a world leader in AI. I don't know that we've actually stated that in the United States. And yet we are today the world leader in AI. And the question is, who is going to come out ahead? Yeah. So there's a race. And we have to, we have to be aware of that race and understand that race, there's a third race, which is against hackers. So one of the interesting things about the large language model world here is that we have tools like chat GPT, the most popular one and the most advanced one, which is called closed source software. But Mehta, the company formerly known as Facebook, Facebook, has released open source software models, when you release open source software, that means anybody in the world so North Korea can use it, around can use it, a hacker in their basement in New Jersey can use it to do things that we wish they weren't doing. And so given that this is the world we live in, if you're running a company, you need to ensure that the vendors you hire in the world of cybersecurity are on the cutting edge of AI and using the latest AI technologies to help prevent what the bad guys are trying to do with the latest AI technologies.   Michael Hingson ** 32:47 It's very much like anything in the in the hacking world, we need to make sure that we have bright people and people who are not only bright enough, but are forward looking enough to anticipate and figure out what the hackers might do to be able to make sure that we put safeguards into the system as best as we can, as best as we can. And when somebody isn't totally successful at that, because somebody on the other side comes out with something more clever. We learn from it, which is also part of the process. Exactly right. And then we use AI to figure out how to fix it.   Glenn Gow ** 33:30 We are definitely going to do more and more than agree with that.   Michael Hingson ** 33:34 Yeah. You know, it's it's always interesting and pertinent to ask questions like, what do we do about AI producing inaccurate information? But you know, I think that really ultimately comes from it depends on the information we give it, doesn't it? Well, let   Glenn Gow ** 33:56 me answer your question. slightly differently. Okay. So there is this thing, as you know, called hallucination where AI might give us the wrong answer. This happens, by the way, only in generative AI does not happen in traditional AI. Because we're not asking traditional AI to, to make anything up. In generative AI, we are actually asking it to make something up. We're asking it to write something or build something that hadn't existed before. And so it has a hallucination problem. So there are two ways around this. Well, I'll say three ways around this. There are certain things where we don't really care if AI makes something up. Let's say Spotify, is using AI to predict the next song that I want to hear. I don't care if Spotify makes a mistake, right? I just happen to hear a song that maybe isn't my favorite as a result. There's no risk factor here. But the minute I step into the world of making Have something that has some risk to it, we need a human in the loop. A human must be involved in making the ultimate decision about what we're going to publish or what code we're going to write or what we're going to what strategy we're going to take on. So you have a human in the loop, sometimes you have you human deeply in the loop. Because there's, there's there's a lot of potential danger associated with this. Like, should we fire a missile or something? Or we have a little bit of a human in the loop? Like, should I publish this blog post said, Shut up Tejas wrote the answers usually no, don't do that. But, but, and there's one other factor. So if you're using a large language model, and you're asking it to do some research, you ask it, or you tell it, you say, and I want you to point me to the source of the information. Now, this is important, because it'll make up sources. Sometimes Michael, it'll say, Oh, here's the source, ha, ha, ha, it's not really a source, it doesn't really say, this is the source of information, they just made it up or the LLM made it up. So instead, by taking a combination of having the human in the loop, and having the source, then the human can go to the source and validate. Yeah, that the large language module model actually did the research and came back with an answer for you that is valid. And now you can make a decision based on that. And   Michael Hingson ** 36:30 the other thing that, again, comes to mind is that hopefully, interacting with the LLM, and dealing with correcting sources and so on, it learns along the way, and over time, maybe you won't make as many mistakes.   Glenn Gow ** 36:47 I think that's true. It is happening now with the models because there is human feedback involved. So it's, it's getting better and better. But it may be the case that we never get to perfection here. Yeah. But you know what? Humans aren't perfect either. And so well, we just needed to get to be a little bit better than humans.   Michael Hingson ** 37:11 Yeah, no, we've got a, we've got to continue to grow.   Glenn Gow ** 37:17 Precisely, yeah. How   Michael Hingson ** 37:19 do we deal with the biases and all the negative things that people say about AI and things that are clearly not true? And very frankly, to me, some of it comes from the political side of things, because people promote fear way too much. But how do we deal with that? Well,   Glenn Gow ** 37:42 so I heard the word bias in your question, and I have I have an answer, maybe about that. But tell me what can you give me an example of what you're you're asking about so I can be more precise?   Michael Hingson ** 37:51 Oh, I'm just thinking of we, we hear so many people saying how bad AI is and we should really not only have better governor's on him, we shouldn't allow it. Kids use it to cheat. It's bad. We shouldn't have it. Well, and it comes from? Yeah, some kids do. There's a challenge there. But anyway, go ahead.   Glenn Gow ** 38:16 Well, let's just use that example, Mike. Okay. So it has to do with being creative about how do you manage change. So I'm going to use an example of a Wharton professor, his name is Ethan Moloch. He's a wonderful person to follow if you want to look him up. He's a leader in thinking about AI and how it applies both in the academic world and the business world. So he, like I said, he teaches a business course at Wharton. And so one day he gets up in front of the class. And he says, Okay, we're all going to write a paper. I don't know what the paper was about. Not important. No, I'm going to ask all of you to write a paper. And I'm going to insist that all of you use chat GPT. And the class is like standing up and clapping and like, oh my god, this is amazing. Because what used to take me four hours is gonna take me 30 minutes now. But he wasn't done. Yeah. And I'm going to ask you to defend every line in the paper. Yep. And so they are suddenly realized that they needed to understand what this tool was telling them and they needed to believe it and validate it. So they are actually learning more than they would learn without ChaCha btw because it's providing all this information that they need to go it's almost like they're it's pointing to here are the important things you need to go learn. It's not about writing the paper. It's about the learning. Yeah. And I thought that was incredibly brilliant to embrace AI so that his students become better at what he said. asking them to do it, which is to think about business problems in a certain way. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 40:04 well, and I, the first time I was talking with someone about chat GPT, and they were talking about how kids cheat, and so on. And cheese, well, with some people true. And some people, it's probably too strong a term, but how kids are using it and not doing it on their own. I immediately said, This is an incredible teaching opportunity. What the teachers need to start to do is to not fear, the artificial intelligence, but rather uses as an opportunity to say to the students, okay, and the way we're going to grade your papers is that you're going to have to defend it. And you're going to have to tell me, what is in the paper? And why you say what you say? Yeah. And I think that makes perfect sense. It's in and I don't know whether that's more work for teachers, it can be time consuming. But it's an opportunity to really change a lot of our teaching models, which is great.   Glenn Gow ** 41:06 Exactly. Right. Exactly. Right. And if teachers are smart, they should use AI to help them build their curriculum, and build what it is they're going to teach and how they're going to teach it. Because AI is a fantastic tool for that. And   Michael Hingson ** 41:23 if school administrators were smart, they would encourage it. That's right. Which is another story entirely. By but you know, it's a process. But I but I really think that it offers so much of an incredible opportunity to vastly improve teaching that, how can you argue with that? But   Glenn Gow ** 41:46 well, let's, let's take what you just said, Michael Fullan. And apply that statement vastly improved teaching to the work world? Yeah. So if I'm running a company, I have people who know some things and people who don't know some things in my company. And I want everyone to know as much as they possibly can, so they can make better decisions. AI is one of the mechanisms to help me get there very quickly. So when one of my favorite phrases, is the head of HR is talking to the CEO, and the head of HR says, gosh, you know, I don't know if we should train all these people. What if we train them and they leave the company? And the CEO says, What if we don't train them, and they stay at the company? So this is a tool for training for teaching for learning for every employee. And every CEO is going to benefit if he if that CEO can get the employees learning by using this incredible tool. Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 43:02 Isn't that cool? Yeah, very cool. And it makes perfect sense. Well, you know, so again, in general, I asked the question before about bias. But is the bias really against AI? Or is it against change?   Glenn Gow ** 43:22 It's a bit of a complicated question. So yeah. So think of it this way. If you build a large language model, and there are only a small number of companies in the world who can build large language models, because it's very, very, very expensive to do. So. What you do if you're open AI, let's say or your anthropic is another company. X is another company, pi is another company, or if you're going to build a large language model, you do something, which is you put guard rails on that. Because you don't want bias inside of those guardrails. And yeah, when you lay down the guardrails, the human who's laying down the guardrails has some bias, Michael, why because they're human. So you might have one large language model that leans a little bit to the left and another one that leans a little bit to the right, and that's based on the people who designed it. And so you could argue that every large language model has some bias built into it purely because humans built in. Hmm. And then you get to choose though, which largely language model do you want to work with whether it's chat CBT, or Claude from anthropic or many others.   Michael Hingson ** 44:44 But a lot of the bias at least that I'm that I'm thinking of, and a lot of people probably think of when they hear this discussion is people are just prejudiced against the whole concept of AI. And I think that yeah,   Glenn Gow ** 44:56 I don't I don't hear that very much. Okay. hear people hungry, I hear people who are hungry to learn more. That's great. So maybe you're hearing by us that I don't hear well, I, you know,   Michael Hingson ** 45:10 probably from different sources. And I've watched enough TV to to observe things, and I've heard negative things. But I'm not hearing nearly as much fear about AI, as I did a year ago.   Glenn Gow ** 45:25 Oh, interesting.   Michael Hingson ** 45:28 And maybe it's just people aren't talking about it. But you know, go ahead. Well, maybe people are   Glenn Gow ** 45:34 beginning to understand it better. That's usually why you might see reduction in fears people begin to understand that. This is why humans are not good at change. Typically, they fear the future, they fear, they're not going to fit into the future. They fear that I can understand that future. But once you start to step into the future, you realize, oh, no, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Maybe it's even good. Yeah. And so that's probably why you're seeing that reduction in fear.   Michael Hingson ** 46:03 We as a society, and as a race, tend to fear a lot more than we ought to. Because we've we decided that we're afraid of one thing or another. And most of the things that we're afraid of never really happen anyway.   Glenn Gow ** 46:20 Exactly. So that's a skill all unto itself. Yes. Why am I focused on something that hasn't happened? isn't likely to happen. And I probably be okay. If it did happen, I'm probably going to be fine. And yet we do tend, we can tend to go there. It's your training of the mind, Michael, this comes back to I'm glad you brought it up. This comes back to one of the concepts I have, in my my coaching of CEOs is, how do you look at the world? Do you look at the world from a fear perspective? Or do you look at the world from an opportunity perspective, we can look at the exact same thing. And come up with a different outcome or a different way of thinking about I'll give you a funny example. A funny example. A shoe company sends a shoe salesman to a country in the desert, to go sell shoes. And the shoe salesman shows up. And he immediately emails back to headquarters and says I'm never going to be successful here. No one wear shoes here. And so he has a failure mindset. So they bring it back. They send another salesman to the exact same location, immediately sends an email back to headquarters and says, Send me ship fulls of shoes. No one wear shoes here. Yeah. And about how are we choosing to perceive what's in front of us? Yeah.   Michael Hingson ** 48:06 I, for a while ever since escaping from the World Trade Center, I've been talking about escaping and what I what I did, how I prepared for it. But never thought about the fact that with all the things that I learned about emergency preparedness, talking to fire people learning how to travel around the complex, not by reading science, of course, but by truly learning it. It created a mindset that said, You know what to do in an emergency, although at the time, I didn't think about it, but much later, I realized it. And I went oh, that is that's a good point. And then during the pandemic, I realized that while I've talked about not being afraid, I've not ever taught anyone how they can learn to control fear. And it's not to not be afraid, but rather to use fear as a powerful tool to help you. And so we've now written a book, it's called Live like a guide dogs stories from a blind man and his dogs about overcoming adversity, being brave, and walking in faith. And it's all about using information that I've observed and learned from a guy dogs and my wife service dog about different aspects of fear and learning to control fear and making it an add a positive attribute to have not an adversary. Well,   Glenn Gow ** 49:32 Michael, that sounds amazing is your How long is your book been out?   Michael Hingson ** 49:35 It isn't. This one is going to come out later in the year. I'll send you an email there. Oh, already been a couple of announcements about it. And it's available for pre order. So I will I will make sure that we put that also in the show notes again, but it's not out yet. But it's coming it'll be fun. I'd love to get your thoughts on it. And maybe when we start looking for people to review it I'll have to see if you'll look at it and Give us a review.   Glenn Gow ** 50:00 Fantastic. I'd love to be part of that.   Michael Hingson ** 50:02 So when we talk about AI, and just all the things that are going on, of course, some people talk about job loss or afraid of job loss, what do you think about that?   Glenn Gow ** 50:13 So I'm going to answer your question in a second. And I just want to suggest maybe this will be our last topic. Is that okay?   Michael Hingson ** 50:22 Only if it's an AI solution? Yeah, well, yeah. Well, so in resist,   Glenn Gow ** 50:30 look, job loss is a real thing. But I want to really frame how we think about this issue. So I want us to think about our jobs as being made up of tasks. Some people have lots and lots and lots of tasks. And some people have a smaller number of tasks that make up their job. AI is going to replace tasks. So if I have 100 tasks that I do every day, and AI can replace 30 of them, I'm going to be pretty happy about that. Because I'm going to be a lot more productive, and I can focus on the ones that I'm best at, and I'm gonna let ai do the things, it's best that but if my job is made up of a tiny number of tasks, let's say, I'm a long haul truck driver. And my task is to get the truck into the into the right lane and go for the next 1000 miles. My job's in danger, because the bulk of my work is associated with a small number of tasks that AI can take on. And so we want to ask ourselves, what what is our day look like? And how many things can be taken over by AI? And how can we embrace them. So there will, there will be three things that happen, there will be new jobs created by AI, the bulk of people will be impacted in a positive way, where they will use AI to be more effective, more efficient in their day, and they'll be able to get more done in a shorter period of time. And then there are some jobs that are going to go away, they're going to disappear. Because of this nature of they're made up of a small number of tasks. Yeah. And so you're running a company, you want to ask yourself, what do we do with that information? Do I think about the employees that I might not need in the future? Do I help them get training right now on this so that they recognize that their job may go away,   Michael Hingson ** 52:26 or you find other things for them to do or find other things   Glenn Gow ** 52:29 for them to do exactly. But in all cases, the market will cert will determine whether or not these jobs stick around or not, yeah, they'll be individual decision makers. Because if you're a competitor suddenly eliminates a bunch of jobs. Let's I'll use an example. Let's say you run a warehouse, and you have 100 people in your warehouse. And your competitor says, I only need 10 People in my warehouse, and I need 90 robots in my warehouse. And that's going to be cheaper and more efficient. Well, I can't be that employee that are an employer that says I'm going to keep all my employees paid, I'm gonna have to understand the nature of how jobs are going to change. And I need to act quickly. This is why we want to embrace AI as quickly as possible to make those decisions. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 53:21 so So two things, one, going back to the truck driver, okay, so AI can take over the actual driving of the truck, at some point, to the point where we don't have to fear that. That doesn't mean we can't find other things for that truck driver to do while he is in the truck. And the truck is being driven by AI. So that   Glenn Gow ** 53:45 is true. That is absolutely true. And so let us use this as our last example, a perfect example would be that that truck drivers overseeing six trucks, right? All at once happens to be sitting in one. But one of those six trucks gets stuck somewhere because you have a flat tire. And it needs a human intervention. But the human in the truck can tell it. Hey, that truck over there was five miles away, pull over and wait for a tow truck to come and get you. Yeah, yeah. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 54:18 very, very quickly. One last thing. I worked with a company called access to be I don't know if you're familiar with accessibility and what it does to help make the internet more accessible. No, please. So accessibility is a product that began several years ago when three guys in Israel developed sought wealth. They first had an internet company that made websites and then in 2017, Israel came along and said God and make all websites accessible. They had so many that they had to figure out a way to do that. And they used AI and they created a widget that sits in the cloud. And the widget can analyze any website of any subscriber. And when it analyzes, it creates what's called an overlay and creates all The code that it feels that it can put in to the site to make it accessible, and it doesn't reprogram the website. But when I go to a site that subscribes to access a B, I hear a message that says, Put your browser in a screen reader mode and I push the button, the widget up in the cloud transmits all the Accessibility Code down to my browser, which has already got the rest of the website, my browser doesn't care where the information comes from, right, as long as it's there. Now, it's not perfect, it doesn't do graphics, it doesn't do necessarily the most sophisticated tables and all bar charts. It doesn't describe all pictures. But it does a lot to make websites a lot more usable. And they have other profiles for other kinds of disabilities. But there's a cadre of people who just are so totally against it, hey, I could never do this overlays will never work. And I'm and they're vehement. And, you know, I continuously think of when I in 1985, started a company because I couldn't get a job to sell products, I started a company selling some of the early PC based CAD systems. And I had an I had architects who came in and they said, Well, we like your product, it's great. But if we use it, since we charge for our time, we can't make nearly the money that we otherwise would have. And I said, you're looking at it the wrong way. You don't deal with it in terms of how much your time is charged. Now, you look at it in terms of your expertise, and you're charging for your expertise. You don't change your prices, you get more customers. And you can do so much more with each customer by using a PC based CAD system and bring the architect or bring the client in and do walkthroughs and fly throughs and other stuff. But it's the same thing. And now CAD is commonplace. The reality is the overlay does so much and accessory is so creative at what it does. And they've also brought in additional services to do the things that the widget can't do. But it's amazing to see some people who were so vehemently against AI and overlays. When in reality, every website designer should include it. Because at least it'll do some of the heavy lifting and in what may not do everything, but it will do a lot and save them time and they don't have to change what they charge.   Glenn Gow ** 57:20 That's great. Sounds like you're a good salesman.   Michael Hingson ** 57:23 Well, we'll we'll keep going with it. It's it's a lot of fun. Well, I really want to thank you for being here. If people want to reach out to you. How do they do   Glenn Gow ** 57:30 that? It's very simple, Michael,   Michael Hingson ** 57:32 there you go. They can just go to AI and say find. Yeah, go ahead.   57:37 Well, my website is My name is Glenn Gow .com. So Glen with two Ns, G L, E, N, N G. O W.com. That's   Michael Hingson ** 57:47 easy. Well, I hope people will reach out. And this has been a lot of fun. And I want to   57:53 one thing I forgot to mention, absolutely. Okay. On my website, I have a tool that's free to use. It's available 24/7 You don't even need to fill out a form to use it. It's called AI CEO coach. So if you're a CEO, you can go to my website, Glen Gow.com and use this tool as often as you want absolutely for free. And ask it questions that a CEO would ask and see if you like the answers, and please give me some feedback on it. People love it so far. Cool.   Michael Hingson ** 58:32 Okay. And it's called again, AI   58:35 CEO, Coach coach.   Michael Hingson ** 58:37 Cool. Well, people go reach out and check it out and reach out to Glenn. I want to thank you again for being here. And I want to thank you all for listening. Love to hear your thoughts. Email me at Michaelhi m i c h a el h i at accessiBe A c c e s s i b e.com. Or go to our podcast page www dot Michael hingson.com/podcast. And that's m i c h a e l h i n g s o n.com/podcast. Love to hear your thoughts and please give us a five star rating wherever you are listening to our podcast or watching our podcast today. We value your insights and Glenn for you and you listening. If you know of anyone else who want to be a guest on unstoppable mindset. Please introduce us always looking for more people to come on and be a part of unstoppable mindset. So again, Glenn, I want to thank you for being here and really appreciate your time today. My   Glenn Gow ** 59:29 pleasure, Michael, it was a pleasure. 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Michael Fullan, Order of Canada, is the former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, and Professor Emeritus of the University of Toronto. He is co-leader of the New Pedagogies for Deep Learning global initiative (www.deeplearning.global). Fullan served as Premier Dalton's Special Policy Adviser in Ontario from 2003-2013. He received the Order of Canada (OC) in December 2012 and holds five honorary doctorates from universities around the world. Michael Fullan's latest books are: Spirit Work and the Science of Collaboration (with Mark Edwards, 2022), The Principal 2.0 (2023), and The Drivers (with Joanne Quinn, 2023).www.michaelfullan.caTwitterLinkedInWe'd love to hear from our listeners!Connect with Dr. Renae Bryant:TwitterInstagramLinkedInConnect with Lynette White:ConnectEDTwitterInstagramLinkedInLynette White

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The best talks I ever saw live happened in the same conference. It was the IPPN conference in 2012. Imagine this as a lineup - Mary Robinson, who needs no introduction; Michael Fullan, one of the world's greatest thinkers in education; Ben Waldon, a Shakespearean actor who tours the world giving talks on leadership; and David Puttnam, the film director and a former advisor on education to the UK government. They don't make conferences like that anymore. The reason I bring this conference up is because of the last name I brought up, David Puttnam, who was talking about educational leadership at the time. While many have said it since, it was the first time I heard somebody say “the children we are teaching today will be doing jobs that do not yet exist.” Ten years later, we are starting to see the saplings of these seeds emerging. For example, there was no such thing as a social media influencer or an eSports coach, never mind a podcast producer! In this episode, I want to tell you about my dream job. It is one that also doesn't exist. Yet. And if I were the Minister for Education, I'd not only be creating the job, I'd be quitting my ministry and taking it on myself!

The best talks I ever saw live happened in the same conference. It was the IPPN conference in 2012. Imagine this as a lineup - Mary Robinson, who needs no introduction; Michael Fullan, one of the world's greatest thinkers in education; Ben Waldon, a Shakespearean actor who tours the world giving talks on leadership; and David Puttnam, the film director and a former advisor on education to the UK government. They don't make conferences like that anymore. The reason I bring this conference up is because of the last name I brought up, David Puttnam, who was talking about educational leadership at the time. While many have said it since, it was the first time I heard somebody say “the children we are teaching today will be doing jobs that do not yet exist.” Ten years later, we are starting to see the saplings of these seeds emerging. For example, there was no such thing as a social media influencer or an eSports coach, never mind a podcast producer! In this episode, I want to tell you about my dream job. It is one that also doesn't exist. Yet. And if I were the Minister for Education, I'd not only be creating the job, I'd be quitting my ministry and taking it on myself!

I dagens episode kommer Michael Fullan på besøk. Han er professor emeritus og utdanningsforsker, og har vært sentral i utvikling av skolesystemer i mange ulike land.Han forsker på hva gode skoler gjør, skriver om det, og deler det tilbake til praksisfeltet. Han har skrevet flere titalls bøker, blant annet "Arbeidskultur for bedre læring i alle skoler" (2014), Ledelse som setter spor (2017) og Dybdelæring (2018). Nå er han ute med en ny bok som heter "The Principal 2.0: Three keys to maximazing impact". De tre "nøklene" er 1) Spirit Work, 2) Contextual literacy og 3) Systemness. Oversatt til norsk ville jeg kalt det å ha 1) et dypt moralsk imperativ (litt som å ha et kall), 2) god forståelse av konteksten og hva elevene trenger og 3) systematikk som forhindrer en fragmentert skoleopplevelse. Dette er rykende ferskt materiale, så denne episoden er virkelig å anbefale, særlig hvis du er skoleleder. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/et-bedre-skole-norge. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of AUHSD Future Talks, Superintendent Matsuda interviews Dr. Jaron Fried, AUHSD's Assistant Superintendent of Educational Services. During the talk, Dr. Fried discusses the role of the principal in school transformation, the Career Preparedness Systems Framework (CPSF), systems and structures at the site level to align with the District's "North Star"/Vision, empowering students and teachers in the classroom to support the District's vision, shared leadership versus shared governance, relationship between student voice and agency and American Democracy, Spirit Work and Contextual Literacy in Michael Fullan's The Principal 2.0, assets-driven versus deficits-driven and learning loss, and the AUHSD Capstone.

In this episode of AUHSD Future Talks, Superintendent Matsuda interviews Michael Fullan. Mr. Fullan is the Global Leadership Director of New Pedagogies for Deep Learning (NPDL) and a worldwide authority on educational reform with a mandate of helping to achieve the moral purpose of all children learning.A former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE) of the University of Toronto, Mr. Fullan advises policymakers and local leaders around the world to provide leadership in education. He received the Order of Canada in December 2012 and holds honorary doctorates from several universities in North America and abroad.During the talk, Mr. Fullan discusses his most recent article regarding change in education, well-being and learning, the 6Cs, learning loss, quiet quitting, education policy, moving the needle, reform, and his advice for young people.

Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Michael Fullan about what does and should drive education, what educators might consider in their work, and the ways in which practitioners can influence systems. Michael is the Global Leadership Director of New Pedagogies for Deep Learning, and a worldwide authority on education reform. He is former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, of the University of Toronto, and received the Order of Canada in 2012. He is author of more than 40 books and holds honorary doctorates from several universities in North America and abroad. His books include ‘Spirit Work and the Science of Collaboration', ‘Nuance: Why Some Leaders Succeed and Others Fail', and ‘Deep Learning: Engage the World, Change the World'. Want to know more? - Michael's website: https://michaelfullan.ca/ - Deep Learning: http://www.deep-learning.global Join the conversation on social media. - Michael: @MichaelFullan1 on Twitter. - Deb: @debsnet on Twitter and @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram. - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Twitter and Instagram.

Jeff Ikler & Steven Miletto Discuss Knowing Your Purpose and Doing One More. This is episode 525 of Teaching Learning Leading K12, an audio podcast. Jeff Ikler is Director of Quetico Career and Leadership Coaching, a firm dedicated to helping individuals overcome career issues, and leaders develop sustained changes in their leadership practices and organizations. He received his certificate in coaching from the Coach Training Institute, a firm recognized as one of the leading coach-training organizations in the world. His approach blends data-driven coaching, and consulting informed by working for more than 35 years in the corporate world. Jeff holds a Master's in the Teaching of History along with a Bachelor's in History from the University of Illinois. He taught high school history in Maywood and Batavia, Illinois, for seven years. He is a certified innovation facilitator using the SIT (Systematic Inventive Thinking) process. Additionally, Jeff is a former Executive Vice President at Pearson Learning where he directed the development of text- and technology-based products for all disciplines. He finished his career at Pearson by leading the development of its multi-dimensional Leadership Development program for school administrators, working closely with authors Lyle Kirtman and Michael Fullan. He currently works with Lyle Kirtman to support change in school districts and nonprofit organizations. Jeff is the host of the podcast Getting Unstuck - Cultivating Curiosity. He is the author of the book Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change. Today we are talking about Finding, Knowing, and Keeping our Purpose as well as doing One More. So much to learn! Thanks for listening! Some extra information before you go... The new intro and outro music was written and performed by Brian K. Buffington. Connect with Brian at briankbuffington@gmail.com or go to his website at  https://briankbuffington.com/ He is an awesome musician, comedic power, teacher, trainer, technology guru, and overall creator of all that is cool. Thanks, Brian! Oh, yeah... Could you do me a favor? Please go to my website at https://www.stevenmiletto.com/reviews/ or open the podcast app that you are listening to me on and would you rate and review the podcast? That would be Awesome. Thanks! Hey, I've got another favor...could you share the podcast with one of your friends, colleagues, and family members? Hmmm? What do you think? That would so awesome! Thanks for sharing! Thanks for listening! To connect with Jeff go to: Jeff Ikler Executive Coach - Personal Leadership Podcaster – Getting Unstuck – Cultivating Curiosity Author - Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change Instagram - @jeff.ikler LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffikler/ Calendar - Let's schedule some time together   Length - 34:35

This Week in Canadian EdTech MindShareTV with special guest Michael Fullan on his new book "Spirit Work", which centers love & care for students, staff, & communities as the impetus to creating a positive culture while collaboration is the vehicle for manifesting that spirit work

As season two gets underway, Rod and Jal leverage their own knowledge and experience to debate the merits of bringing Canadian school reform to the United States. Highlights from their conversation include: a history of Canadian reform processes dating back to Rod's work with the Ministry of Education in British Columbia;  the influence of Michael Fullan; a controversial take on a new border design; the importance of building trust in all levels of the system; emphasizing the need for patience when attempting to make large scale changes;  including all stakeholders in the co-creation process; and a surprising take on fast food favorites during the lighting round. Questions? Thoughts? Feedback? Email us at  freerangehumanspod@gmail.com or Tweet us at @jal_mehta and @Rodroad219

Education luminary Lyn Sharratt shares updates on her seminal book with Michael Fullan, Putting FACES on the Data. Data and accountability are important to a school's success. Yet as important as numbers and targets are, without the “why”, meaning is lost. Reminding ourselves of the children in front of this data is key to improving instruction. Listen as Lyn shares the origins of this practice, strategic moves that make everyone a leader of learning, and the infrastructure she has built— including an online suite of classes—to help educators do this life-changing work.

In a follow up to their widely popular Edweek article, the luminary Michael Fullan and seasoned practitioner Joanna Rizzotto discuss the roots of our teacher retention problem—the system of schooling itself. They contend that we need to shift to a humanity-based model where schools and communities can experience greater local autonomy and improve practices from the bottom up. One of the first steps is to have the more centralized figures connect with the people on the ground; the educators, parents, and students who see it all first. Such interactions would truly show teachers and other community members their value and give district leaders the data they need to make the most effective, holistic decisions. As Fullan and Rizzotto see it, teachers—especially those that stick around—have never left their calling, they have just abandoned an outmoded structure that too often isn't nimble or responsive enough changing times.  

This episode welcomes the superintendent of the Cedar Rapids Community School District, the inspiring Noreen Bush. Noreen was named the 2021-2022 Iowa Superintendent of the Year and received the 2021 American Association of School Administrators Women in School Leadership Superintendent Award. Norene has dedicated nearly 30 years to public education, finding leadership positions out of her passion to serve more students and educators. After a stage IV cancer diagnosis, she hasn't stopped using her life to reframe learning and leading − from clinical trials to school hallways. In this episode, Gary and Noreen discuss: · A servant leadership formula: setting vision, listening, learning then leading · Leading from the seat you're in · Building hope as a strategy · Choosing collaboration over isolation · Shared vulnerability and practice · Living life with hope and purpose · The proving zone vs. the improving zone Book Recommendations: The Moral Imperative of School Leadership, Michael Fullan

The Game Changers podcast celebrates those true pioneers in education who are building schools for tomorrow. In this first conversation of Series Eleven, we talk with renowned educator Michael Fullan. Michael is the Global Leadership Director, New Pedagogies for Deep Learning (NPDL) and a worldwide authority on educational reform with a mandate of helping to achieve the moral purpose of all children learning. A former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE) of the University of Toronto, Michael advises policymakers and local leaders around the world to provide leadership in education. Michael received the Order of Canada in December 2012. He holds honorary doctorates from several universities in North America and abroad. Our series sponsor is a School for tomorrow. and Portland Education's Lead Now Coaching Program. To find out more, visit www.aschoolfortomorrow.com/coaching The Game Changers podcast is produced by Oliver Cummins for Orbital Productions, supported by a School for tomorrow (aschoolfortomorrow.com), and powered by CIRCLE. The podcast is hosted on SoundCloud and distributed through Spotify, Google Podcasts, and Apple Podcasts. Please subscribe and tell your friends you like what you are hearing. You can contact us at gamechangers@circle.education, on Twitter and Instagram via @GameChangersPC, and you can also connect with Phil and Adriano via LinkedIn and Twitter. Let's go!

Timecodes: 00:00 – Opening Credits 01:31 – Intro 04:22 – Kolber's Corner 12:28 – Education in the News 24:08 – Feature Introduction 26:45 – Interview – Michael Fullan 01:05:52 – Patreon shout-outss 01:06:58 – Episode 200, 9th Anniversary special! Links: – Steven Kolber on Twitter – https://twitter.com/steven_kolber – Michael Fullan's Website – https://michaelfullan.ca/ – Spirit Work and the Science of Collaboration – https://www.acel.org.au/ItemDetail?iProductCode=9781071845493&Category=NEWRELEASE&WebsiteKey=20e11af7-b4d0-4ed8-b16e-21ea248da601 Support TER Podcast at www.Patreon.com/TERPodcast Transcript available at https://terpodcast.com/2022/06/09/ter-198-spirit-work-and-the-science-of-collaboration-with-michael-fullan-8-june-2022/

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Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Santiago Rincón-Gallardo about what it means to liberate learning from schooling, including global examples of learning communities embracing learning as a practice of freedom and humanity. Santiago is an education consultant, founder and director of Liberating Learning, and Chief Research Officer at Michael Fullan's consulting team. He conducts research and advises leaders and educators to liberate learning in school networks and across educational systems in the United States, Canada, Latin America, and Australia. As an educator and organiser, Santiago worked for over a decade to promote grassroots pedagogical change initiatives in Mexican public schools serving historically marginalized communities. He was the director of a small NGO that catalysed a movement to turn conventional classrooms into tutorial networks, a movement that later on spread to over nine thousand schools across the country. Santiago's academic work explores how effective pedagogies for deep learning can spread at scale. His most recent book is 'Liberating Learning: Educational Change as Social Movement'. Santiago holds a doctorate on Education Policy, Leadership and Instructional Practice from Harvard. He completed postdoctoral studies and has been a visiting scholar at the University of Toronto. Join the conversation on social media. Santiago: @SRinconGallardo on Twitter. Deb: @debsnet on Twitter and @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram. The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Twitter and Instagram. Want to know more? - Chapter: ‘Leading to Liberate Learning' https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781003131496-18/leading-liberate-learning-santiago-rinc%C3%B3n-gallardo - Book: ‘Liberating Learning' https://www.routledge.com/Liberating-Learning-Educational-Change-as-Social-Movement/Rincon-Gallardo/p/book/9781138491762 - Interview article https://internationalednews.com/an-interview-with-dr-santiago-rincon-gallardo/

Michael Fullan and I sit down for a conversation about hope and the opportunity to unite a nation through students and education. We are at moment in history where the global pandemic, divisive political views, and glaring inequalities just might be disruptive enough to create an opportunity to finally (really) transform public education. We discuss the path forward and provide a framework to unify and engage our communities by collaboratively building a Portrait of a Graduate (Learner), rooted in Deeper Learning and the six Cs: Communication, Collaboration, Critical Thinking, Creativity, Citizenship, and Character. Learning needs to be student-centered and the entire educational system should to be oriented in such a way that students and teachers are liberated from the constraints that impede students from gaining the skills and dispositions to prepare them to solve the world's most difficult challenges. EduRevolution website: https://www.k12sharing.org/edurevolutionpodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/EduRevPodcast Guest Information Michael Fullan https://michaelfullan.ca/ https://twitter.com/MichaelFullan1 https://deep-learning.global/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/michaelrmccormick/support

The Six Secrets of Change written by Michael Fullan is an excellent for leaders of any kind but especially business leaders. The author explores a plethora or studies and books about leadership styles, focuses, and ideas and then points out where each of these ideas is correct or flawed. As you may have guess there are 6 major secrets out lined in the book about how a leader aught to lead and the pitfalls to be careful of.  Many of these secrets are actually a balance of powers in various arenas, being a confident and provide direction as the leader but humble and open to feedback, ideas and a supporter of the team/system.Purchase your copy of The Six Secrets of Change from AmazonStart recording high quality audio and video with SquadcastStart your own podcast for free with BuzzsproutGo to https://www.tubebuddy.com/BronsonWilks for help ranking your youtube videos. This is my preferred tool for researching keywords, ensuring I've covered every step in the creation and uploading process and tracking results.For additional content visit https://www.bronsonwilks.comSupport the show (https://paypal.me/BronsonWilks?locale.x=en_US)

Those who work for substantial educational change, do so within the context of today's heated nation and world. Two thought leaders are adept at shining a light on those educators who are trying to lead their communities out of darkness. Dr. Michael Fullan and Dr. Mark Edwards have penned an argument for change that highlights how eight districts are combining the emotional and scientific basis for how educators and communities can work together to address the problems we face.

Dr. Fullan elevates our understanding, truly setting a new bar, relative to the need for deep collaboration in our schools and communities.

In this episode Brett Salakas speaks to Texthelp's Greg O'Connor about future building in education. Brett is a teacher, leader, poet and the founder of aussieED (the largest online network of teachers in Australia) and the co-founder of both the ED Poets Society and TheWalkingED.Greg and Brett discuss:-Preparing children for the future- Access to Ed-tech and equity issues- Learner agency in a changing world- The role of the teacher in building for the futureYou can follow Brett on Twitter at@MRsalakasyou can catch Greg on@gregoconnor.Two books mentioned were:Stratosphere: Integrating Technology, Pedagogy, and Change Knowledge by Michael Fullan.Work Less, Teach More by Dan Jackson.

Michael Fullan is the former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, and Professor Emeritus of the University of Toronto. He is co-leader of the New Pedagogies for Deep Learning global initiative (npdl.global). Recognized as a worldwide authority on educational reform, he advises policymakers and local leaders in helping to achieve the moral purpose of all children learning. Highlights from his conversation with Rod and Jal include: definitions of coherence and enactment; an emphasis on leading from the middle instead of traditional ideas of top-down or bottom up; how districts waste too much money on policies that don't impact equity; the importance of student involvement in policy making conversations; and how to make students feel a greater connection to the success of humanity.

This week's episode is a response to a tweet from August 6 by Chris Quinn (@ChrisQuinn64). He posted a sketchnote by Sylvia Duckworth depicting a circle cut into 6 sections. Above the graphic: “Embracing the 6Cs of Education (supported by well-being) can help us to build the best growth opportunities for and with our children.” The 6 sections were each labeled with a "C" word: Character, Citizenship, Collaboration, Critical Thinking, Communication, Creativity. My initial reaction just reading the labels was that the model was outdated because the categories mentioned, like character education and citizenship were outdated. But then I saw Dr. Michael Fullan, scholar and researcher was listed as the source and Sylvia Duckworth another eminent educator who I respect a great deal. I also thought about Chris and his attention to detail before posting anything. So I did what I always do when I question myself. I reflected on what I wrote; I searched for the source of Chris's post via Dr. Fullan. Education Plus Whitepaper (2014) written by Dr. Fullan and Geoff Scott. Link to Chris Quinn's tweet Deep Learning: Engage the World Change the World Dive Into Deep Learning: Engagement New Pedagogies for Deep Learning (NPDL) Learnlife Learnlife Alliance

School districts face extreme urgency to safely return students to in-person environments and help them recover from a pandemic that has not yet ended. At the same time, leaders and practitioners are pressing to expeditiously but thoughtfully allocate a windfall of new state and federal dollars – all the while trying to leverage the unique opportunity created by these circumstances to bring about transformative changes to our public school systems. How can school communities make the most of this moment to innovate towards a greater equality of outcomes for all students? That's the question we explore in this episode. Education reform experts Michael Fullan and Joanne Quinn share powerful ideas and insights from their work. Both have advised school systems in California and throughout the world. They've co-authored many books and papers, including their latest, “Right Drivers for Whole System Success.” Fullan and Quinn help us to look through the lens of equity and learning, emphasizing that education leaders should prioritize engaging all of their students.The possibilities for investing this influx of new, one-time funding to address inequities is truly exciting. But not so simple. School business officials especially may find themselves caught in a tension, on the one hand focused on fulfilling their important, traditional role of ensuring fiscal health and responsible accounting (including spending down Covid-recovery funds within prescribed timelines) while also being presented an opportunity to help their districts think and act in new ways that can be sustained over time. CASBO CEO and executive director Tatia Davenport also re-joins Jason to put some of Michael and Joanne's ideas through a school business “reality check.” Tatia describes why focusing on increasing the long-term yield of our public school investments is so critical, plus she highlights why district leaders need more time and space to plan, so they can develop a cohesive strategy with their communities for effectively spending their funds and improving outcomes. Download the Episode 4 Companion Brief here. GuestsJoanne Quinn is an international consultant and author on system change, leadership, and learning. As co-founder and Global Director of New Pedagogies for Deep Learning, she leads partnership work across eight countries focused on transforming learning. Joanne has provided leadership at all levels of education as a superintendent, implementation advisor to the Ontario Ministry of Education, and Director of Continuing Education at the University of Toronto. Michael Fullan, O.C., is the Global Leadership Director of New Pedagogies for Deep Learning and a worldwide authority on educational reform with a mandate of helping to achieve the moral purpose of all children learning. A former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE) of the University of Toronto, Michael advises policymakers and local leaders around the world to provide leadership in education. *Budgeting for Educational Equity is presented by the California Association of School Business Officials (CASBO), in partnership with WestEd. Our series is written and produced by Paul Richman and Jason Willis. Original music, mixing and sound by Tommy Dunbar. John Diaz at WestEd  develops our related written materials. We are grateful to the Sobrato Family Foundation for providing additional support. @Budget4edequity

What are Michael Fullan's 6Cs? How do we teach them, use them, and engage students in them? This episode is an enthrauling discussion on the 6Cs from Kindergarten to Year 12!

O convidado desta semana é Michael Fullan. Fullan é um dos líderes da iniciativa global New Pedagogies for Deep Learning (NPDL) e professor emérito da Universidade de Toronto. Foi também Decano do Instituto de Estudos em Educação de Ontário (OISE) da mesma universidade. Reconhecido mundialmente como autoridade na área da educação, Fullan aconselha lideranças governamentais e líderes locais a alcançarem o propósito moral do aprendizado de todas as crianças ao redor do mundo. Fullan recebeu a Ordem do Canadá em Dezembro de 2012 e possui doutorados honorários em várias universidades em diferentes países. Michael Fullan é um premiado escritor, tendo produzido inúmeras obras ao longo de sua carreira, traduzidas em muitas línguas. Aqui no Brasil, temos uma de suas obras publicadas em português, com o título "O significado da mudança educacional". Neste episódio, Fullan fala sobre os impactos da covid-19 na educação e os aprendizados para o futuro, o conceito de deep learning e 6 Cs, novos orientadores para mudança do sistema educacional, o papel dos diretores das escolas e a construção de uma cultura de colaboração. Confira o trabalho de Fullan em: michaelfullan.ca/ Saiba mais sobre o Instituto para Inovação em Educação em unisinos.br/institutoinovacao Idioma do episódio: Inglês -- Our guest this week is Michael Fullan. Fullan is a former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE) and emeritus professor at University of Toronto, and the Global Leadership Director at New Pedagogies for Deep Learning (NPDL). Recognized as worldwide authority on educational reform, Fullan advises policymakers and local leaders to achieve the moral purpose of all children learning around the world. Fullan received the Order of Canada in December 2012 and holds honorary doctorates from several universities in North America and abroad. Michael Fullan is a prolific writer and award winner, having published books in many languages. Here in Brazil, we have one of his books translated, called "O significado da mudança educacional". In this episode, Fullan talks about the impacts of covid-19 in education and learnings for the future, the concept of deep learning and Six Cs, the new drivers for changing of the educacional system, the role of school principals and building a culture of collaboration. Check out more of Fullan's work at michaelfullan.ca/ Learn more about the Institute for Innovation in Education at unisinos.br/institutoinovacao Language of the episode: English

In this podcast, I have a conversation with Santiago Rincón-Gallardo, an academic who has lived, studied, and researched in two worlds - the Global North and the Global South. He was born and raised in Mexico City, attended graduate school at Harvard, and for the past decade, has lived in Toronto Canada, working with Michael Fullan as his Chief Research Officer.  Santiago walks us through some of the main themes in his book: education and democracy; and, educational change and social movements. While these topics may appear to be at the macro level, we dive right into the micro level, focusing on how educators at every level in education systems can liberate learning in classrooms, schools and districts.

In this episode of the Coconut Thinking podcast, I speak with Santiago Rincón-Gallardo, Chief Research Officer of Michael Fullan's team. As an educational change leader, consultant and scholar, Santiago's work looks at liberating learning and its power to change lives and the world. Through his work he seeks to understand how and under what conditions powerful learning can spread widely across entire educational systems. We discuss among other things: The difference between learning to be taught and learning to learn; How social movements are interconnected and education's role in creating change; and The role of play as an essential part of learning. We have rebranded! The Meaningful Learning podcast is now the Coconut Thinking podcast—keeping things simple. We look forward to your comments and thoughts on our site coconut-thinking.design, where you'll also find our articles and other goodies.

What is the true power of humanity? How do we unlock it in our students? In this sixth special series of The Game Changers Podcast, Phil Cummins joins in conversation with Santiago Rincon-Gallardo and Hà Ánh Phượng to unpack these core questions. Santiago Rincón Gallardo is an education consultant and Chief Research Officer at Michael Fullan's team. He conducts research, advises leaders and educators, and is involved in efforts to transform teaching and learning across educational systems in the United States, Canada, and Latin America. As an educator and organizer, Santiago worked for over a decade to promote grassroots educational change initiatives in Mexican public schools serving historically marginalized communities. He was the director of a small NGO that catalyzed a movement to turn conventional classrooms into tutorial networks, which reached nine thousand schools across the country. Schools that joined this movement, serving some of the most historically marginalized children across Mexico, showed remarkable gains in student performance and in three years were outperforming their more privileged counterparts. Santiago's academic work explores how effective pedagogies for deep learning can spread at scale. His most recent book is Liberating Learning: Educational Change as Social Movement and his new website (LiberatingLearning.com) just went live. You can reach out to Santiago on twitter at @SRinconGallardo. In this episode, Santiago and Phil discuss what we can learn from developments in education made in the Global South. The Game Changers podcast is produced by Oliver Cummins for Orbital Productions, supported by a School for tomorrow (aSchoolfortomorrow.com), and powered by CIRCLE by CIRCLE – The Centre for Innovation, Research, Creativity and Leadership in Education (www.circle.education). The podcast is hosted on SoundCloud and distributed through Spotify, Google Play, and Apple Podcasts. Please subscribe and tell your friends you like what you are hearing. You can contact us at gamechangers@circle.education, on Twitter and Instagram via @GameChangersPC, and you can also connect with Philip SA Cummins and Adriano Di Prato via LinkedIn. Adriano loves his insta and tweets a lot; Phil posts videos to YouTube.

Hey in this episode Pete (@mr_van_w) and Shawtima (@shawtimasmiles) talk about: Thinking Routines (Headlines) and how they've adapted them to suit what they want to do in the classroom. We talk ever so briefly about the authoritarian rise of the Flipped Teacher in an article from Times Higher Education. We talk in more depth about the New Pedagogies for Deep Learning that is going on at Pete’s school - The Central West Leadership Academy. This is from the book Dive into Deep Learning: Tools for Engagement (non-affiliate link - as if they’d pay us). Then Shawtima gets real misogynistic, and focuses on the work of a dude while talking about a book written primarily by a female educator (Lynn D Sharratt) and other work by Michael Fullan. To be fair, Pete was mostly distracted by what he thought was Shawtima’s insane Trad ramblings of rankings but then it all came good. Also, join Pete on Pokemon GO! His trainer number is 1783 2412 6146. For real, do it. He plays and sends gifts daily. Support the podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/CatfishEducation, it really really helps us keep this regular. Stay Shiny Pony Boy!

Hey in this episode Pete (@mr_van_w) and Shawtima (@shawtimasmiles) talk about: Thinking Routines (Headlines) and how they've adapted them to suit what they want to do in the classroom. We talk ever so briefly about the authoritarian rise of the Flipped Teacher in an article from Times Higher Education. We talk in more depth about the New Pedagogies for Deep Learning that is going on at Pete's school - The Central West Leadership Academy. This is from the book Dive into Deep Learning: Tools for Engagement (non-affiliate link - as if they'd pay us). Then Shawtima gets real misogynistic, and focuses on the work of a dude while talking about a book written primarily by a female educator (Lynn D Sharratt) and other work by Michael Fullan. To be fair, Pete was mostly distracted by what he thought was Shawtima's insane Trad ramblings of rankings but then it all came good. Also, join Pete on Pokemon GO! His trainer number is 1783 2412 6146. For real, do it. He plays and sends gifts daily. Support the podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/CatfishEducation, it really really helps us keep this regular. Stay Shiny Pony Boy!

What is the true power of humanity? How do we unlock it in our students? In this sixth special series of The Game Changers Podcast, Phil Cummins joins in conversation with Santiago Rincon-Gallardo and Hà Ánh Phượng to unpack these core questions. Santiago Rincón Gallardo is an education consultant and Chief Research Officer at Michael Fullan's team. He conducts research, advises leaders and educators, and is involved in efforts to transform teaching and learning across educational systems in the United States, Canada, and Latin America. As an educator and organiser, Santiago worked for over a decade to promote grassroots educational change initiatives in Mexican public schools serving historically marginalised communities. He was the director of a small NGO that catalysed a movement to turn conventional classrooms into tutorial networks, which reached nine thousand schools across the country. Schools that joined this movement, serving some of the most historically marginalised children across Mexico, showed remarkable gains in student performance and in three years were outperforming their more privileged counterparts. Santiago's academic work explores how effective pedagogies for deep learning can spread at scale. His most recent book is Liberating Learning: Educational Change as Social Movement and his new website (LiberatingLearning.com) just went live. You can reach out to Santiago on twitter at @SRinconGallardo. In this episode, Santiago and Phil discuss the provocation: learning is a social movement. The Game Changers podcast is produced by Oliver Cummins for Orbital Productions, supported by a School for tomorrow (aSchoolfortomorrow.com), and powered by CIRCLE by CIRCLE – The Centre for Innovation, Research, Creativity and Leadership in Education (www.circle.education). The podcast is hosted on SoundCloud and distributed through Spotify, Google Play, and Apple Podcasts. Please subscribe and tell your friends you like what you are hearing. You can contact us at gamechangers@circle.education, on Twitter and Instagram via @GameChangersPC, and you can also connect with Philip SA Cummins and Adriano Di Prato via LinkedIn. Adriano loves his insta and tweets a lot; Phil posts videos to YouTube.

Michael Fullan introduces his latest book which he co-authored with Mary Jean Gallagher. Michael is a globally renowned academic in education and has served as an advisor on education policy to many governments around the world. In this book, Michael continues with his focus on system reform that began decades ago and now includes the components of equity and well-being. Michael reflects on the increased urgency of equity and well-being in a post pandemic era.

What is the true power of humanity? How do we unlock it in our students? In this sixth special series of The Game Changers Podcast, Phil Cummins joins in conversation with Santiago Rincon-Gallardo and Hà Ánh Phượng to unpack these core questions. Santiago Rincón Gallardo is an education consultant and Chief Research Officer at Michael Fullan's team. He conducts research, advises leaders and educators, and is involved in efforts to transform teaching and learning across educational systems in the United States, Canada, and Latin America. As an educator and organizer, Santiago worked for over a decade to promote grassroots educational change initiatives in Mexican public schools serving historically marginalized communities. He was the director of a small NGO that catalyzed a movement to turn conventional classrooms into tutorial networks, which reached nine thousand schools across the country. Schools that joined this movement, serving some of the most historically marginalized children across Mexico, showed remarkable gains in student performance and in three years were outperforming their more privileged counterparts. Santiago's academic work explores how effective pedagogies for deep learning can spread at scale. His most recent book is Liberating Learning: Educational Change as Social Movement and his new website (LiberatingLearning.com) just went live. You can reach out to Santiago on twitter at @SRinconGallardo. In this episode, Santiago and Phil discuss the provocation: learning is a practice of freedom. The Game Changers podcast is produced by Oliver Cummins for Orbital Productions, supported by a School for tomorrow (aSchoolfortomorrow.com), and powered by CIRCLE by CIRCLE – The Centre for Innovation, Research, Creativity and Leadership in Education (www.circle.education). The podcast is hosted on SoundCloud and distributed through Spotify, Google Play, and Apple Podcasts. Please subscribe and tell your friends you like what you are hearing. You can contact us at gamechangers@circle.education, on Twitter and Instagram via @GameChangersPC, and you can also connect with Philip SA Cummins and Adriano Di Prato via LinkedIn. Adriano loves his insta and tweets a lot; Phil posts videos to YouTube.

Mary Jean introduces her book which she co-authored with Michael Fullan. Mary Jean is the former Assistant Deputy Minister with the Ontario Ministry of Education. Since leaving the Ministry she has served as an advisor on education policy to many governments around the world. Mary Jean reflects on her experiences in Ontario, Australia, and California, recounting the “details” that make a difference in system reform.

My conversation with Karen Caswell. Karen is a life long learner, experienced educator and advocate for deep connections. She speaks vulnerably about nearing burn out and disillusionment in the teaching profession and how she navigated her way to find the love of the job again. She answers big questions like: What role education has played in her life What we can do to improve the teacher training process at university Her evolution as a teacher Where she finds the most joy in teaching Focusing on character building within the curriculum Hopes for education Greatest lessons learnt (this one speaks to me) She also holds a weekly chat on Twitter to connect link minded educators. Links: Blog https: //www.karencaswell.com/ Twitter @kasw1 New Pedagogies for Deep Learning https://deep-learning.global/ based on the work of Michael Fullan, Joanne Quinn and Joanne McEachen Dave Burgess https://daveburgess.com/about/ ; @dbc_inc on Instagram ; @burgess_dave on Twitter Tamara Letter https://www.tamaraletter.com/ ; @tamaraletter on Instagram and Twitter Alicia Ray @iluveducating on Instagram and Twitter Tara Martin http://www.tarammartin.com/ ; @tarammartin.real on Instagram ; @TaraMartinEDU on Twitter Wine with teacher podcast - with Gabbie Stroud Around the table podcast episode Feel free to show your gratitude for the chat by buying me a virtual coffee - --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/laura4712/message

My conversation with Karen Caswell. Karen is a life long learner, experienced educator and advocate for deep connections. She speaks vulnerably about nearing burn out and disillusionment in the teaching profession and how she navigated her way to find the love of the job again. She answers big questions like: What role education has played in her life What we can do to improve the teacher training process at university Her evolution as a teacher Where she finds the  most joy in teaching Focusing on character building within the curriculum Hopes for education Greatest lessons learnt (this one speaks to me) She also holds a weekly chat on Twitter to connect link minded educators.   Links: Blog https: //www.karencaswell.com/  Twitter @kasw1 New Pedagogies for Deep Learning https://deep-learning.global/ based on the work of Michael Fullan, Joanne Quinn and Joanne McEachen Dave Burgess https://daveburgess.com/about/ ; @dbc_inc on Instagram ; @burgess_dave on Twitter Tamara Letter https://www.tamaraletter.com/ ; @tamaraletter on Instagram and Twitter Alicia Ray @iluveducating on Instagram and Twitter Tara Martin http://www.tarammartin.com/ ; @tarammartin.real on Instagram ; @TaraMartinEDU on Twitter   Wine with teacher podcast - with Gabbie Stroud Around the table podcast episode   Feel free to show your gratitude for the chat by buying me a virtual coffee -  

On your campus or in your district, do you have a lot of initiatives being implemented? What is the impact of each of those initiatives or programs? This week’s guest, Peter DeWitt, shares how relationship building and collaboration with teachers are the most rich actions by a leader and how you can have a greater impact on campus culture.    In this episode, we discuss: Collective Teacher Efficacy Flipped Meeting Model Instructional Leadership Tips New Book Announcement And Leaders Coaching Leaders Podcast About Peter DeWitt:Peter DeWitt (Ed.D) is a former K-5 teacher (11 years) and principal (8 years). He is a school leadership coach who runs competency-based workshops and provides keynotes nationally and internationally focusing on school leadership (collaborative cultures and instructional leadership), as well as, fostering inclusive school climates. His work has been adopted at the state level, university level, and he works with numerous school districts, school boards, regional networks, ministries of education around North America, Australia, Europe, Asia, the Middle East and the U.K.  Peter writes the http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/finding_common_ground/ (Finding Common Ground) column for Education Week, which has been in circulation since 2011. In 2020 DeWitt co-created Education Week's https://www.edweek.org/ew/events/a-seat-at-the-table-with-education-week/what-should-effective-grading-and-assessment-look-like.html (A Seat At the Table) where he moderates conversations with experts around the topics of race, gender, sexual orientation, research, trauma and many other educational topics. ​ Additionally, DeWitt is the Series Editor for the Connected Educator Series (Corwin Press) and the Impact Series (Corwin Press) that include books by Viviane Robinson, Andy Hargreaves, Pasi Sahlberg, Yong Zhao and Michael Fullan. He is the 2013 School Administrators Association of New York State's (SAANYS) Outstanding Educator of the Year, and the 2015 Education Blogger of the Year (Academy of Education Arts & Sciences), and sits on numerous advisory boards.  Follow Peter DeWitt: Website: http://www.petermdewitt.com (http://www.petermdewitt.com) Twitter: https://twitter.com/PeterMDeWitt (https://twitter.com/PeterMDeWitt) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1544381417/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1544381417&linkCode=as2&tag=aspirewebsite-20&linkId=85640e58fa8a0e1c8d61f1da37a623d2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1506337112/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1506337112&linkCode=as2&tag=aspirewebsite-20&linkId=83eaa4eeb8f8fb6a771fc887f7fc890d https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1506385990/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1506385990&linkCode=as2&tag=aspirewebsite-20&linkId=601066621c2b561f39cde00d721084d7 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1506399495/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1506399495&linkCode=as2&tag=aspirewebsite-20&linkId=11740a12c86eb91121a58833de39e1e7 Are you a superfan of the Aspire podcast? Well, now you can show off your support with the new Aspire swag, featuring tee shirts, hoodies and a variety of drinkware. You can find all your Aspire Swag athttp://www.teachbetter.com/swag ( www.teachbetter.com/swag) [caption id="attachment_3247" align="alignnone" width="1024"]https://joshstamper.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Aspire-Swag-Website-Image.png () Aspire Swag, Teach Better Team, Joshua Stamper, Aspire: The Leadership Development Podcast[/caption] Use Discount Code: ASPIRE for 25% OFF Tee-Shirts, Hoodies, and Drinkware:https://teachbetterswag.com/collections/aspire-the-leadership-development-podcast ( ASPIRE: The Leadership Development Podcast)   This post contains affiliate links. When you make a purchase through these links, The Aspire Podcast gets a small percentage

Andy Hargreaves is Director of Chenine (Change, Engagement and Innovation in Education) at the University of Ottawa and Research Professor in the Lynch School of Education and Human Development at Boston College. He is Past President of the International Congress of School Effectiveness and Improvement, recent Adviser in Education to the Premier of Ontario and currently to the First Minister of Scotland, and founder of the ARC Education: a group of nations committed to broadly defined excellence, equity, wellbeing, inclusion, democracy and human rights www.atrico.org Andy has consulted with the OECD, the World Bank, governments, universities and teacher unions worldwide. Andy's more than 30 books have attracted multiple Outstanding Writing Awards – including the prestigious 2015 Grawemeyer Award in Education for Professional Capital (with Michael Fullan). He has been honored with the 2016 Horace Mann Award in the US and the Robert Owen Award in Scotland for services to public education. Andy is ranked by Education Week in the top scholars with most influence on US education policy debate. In 2015, Boston College gave him its Excellence in Teaching with Technology Award. He holds Honorary Doctorates from the Education University of Hong Kong and the University of Uppsala in Sweden. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts. His most recent book, Moving: a memoir of social mobility and education, is published by Solution Tree. His two upcoming books in 2020 with Dennis Shirley are Five Paths of Student Engagement: Blazing the trail to learning and success (Solution Tree), and Well-being and Socio-emotional Learning: How to Build Everyone Back Better (ASCD). Social Links LinkedIn: @HargreavesBC Twitter: @HargreavesBC

After publishing a 2011 paper on the four wrong drivers of school system reform, Michael Fullan sits down with Peter DeWitt to talk about the new right drivers that bring whole system success: wellbeing, social intelligence, equality investments, and systemness. School and system leaders can use these four drivers to focus on the right priorities as schools recover from COVID-19 and seek to accelerate learning again. Listen to hear:How we are democratizing leadership post-COVIDWhy having a mindset of systemness can help you "exploit upward, liberate downward, and lateralize everywhere"How "big spirit" can help leaders rise above hopelessness and lean into learned hopefulness.

Join hosts Rashawn “Shawnee” Caruthers and Tom Vander Ark in this special Getting Smart Podcast mini-series about the Nevada Succeeds InspirED Global Fellowship! This will be a three-part series all about leadership, innovation, and education opportunities within Nevada Succeeds — a Las Vegas-based education non-profit focused on empowering systems transformation through educator impact, policy, and design-thinking. Dedicated to building a state-wide ecosystem, Nevada Succeeds launched InspireED Global Fellowship in July 2020 in partnership with Las Vegas Sands. The goal of the fellowship is to empower educational practitioners to investigate Nevada education challenges and use design-thinking to develop actionable plans to determine solutions. In this first part of the three-part series with Nevada Succeeds, Shawnee and Tom Vander Ark welcome Jeanine Collins, Mary Jean Gallagher, and Chip Kimball to the podcast. Jeanine Collins is the founder and Executive Director of Nevada Succeeds; an Adjunct Faculty at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas; and the founder and Principal at Reflect Forward. Mary Jane Gallagher is the former Chief Student Achievement Officer and Assistant Deputy Minister of the Ontario Ministry of Education. She also co-authored the book, The Devil Is in the Details: System Solutions for Equity, Excellence, and Student Well-Being. Chip Kimball was the previous Superintendent for Singapore American Schools and is now making his way over to the International School of Prague. In their conversation together, Jeanine, Mary, and Chip discuss the important work that Nevada Succeeds is doing, the challenges of system leadership today, strategies for developing young leaders, insights and advice on how leaders can innovate and be champions for equity in their school system, and much more. The Getting Smart team is honored to partner with Nevada Succeeds on this type of work and is so excited for all of you to listen in to these conversations with the many key players in the initiative! Be sure to tune in (and stay tuned for part two of the series coming next week)!   Key Takeaways: [:04] About the first episode in the three-part series with Nevada Succeeds. [2:03] Tom welcomes Jeanine Collins, Mary Jean Gallagher, and Chip Kimball to the podcast. [2:56] The backstory of Nevada Succeeds, about their mission, and how they have shifted their goals in the last year with COVID-19 by doing meaningful virtual and remote work. [5:09] Jeanine speaks about the amazing and diverse lead learners that they’ve assembled at Nevada Succeeds. [6:28] How did Dr. Kimble originally connect with Nevada Succeeds? And how does he think about the challenges of educator and school leadership today? [9:11] Jeanine elaborates on the learning agenda at Singapore American and how inviting 100 of his faculty members to visit 100 of the best schools in the world impacted their success. [11:36] Mary Jane Gallagher reflects on the challenges of system leadership today. [15:55] Jeanine summarizes how she thinks about leadership development, what it should look like, and how she has incorporated these ideas at Nevada Succeeds. [18:21] Chip speaks about strategies for developing young leaders. [20:32] Mary Jane shares her insights on important experiences for developing leaders. [23:36] Chip shares his thoughts on how leaders can innovate and be champions for equity in their school system. [25:27] Mary Jane shares her insights on leading for innovation while championing for equity. [29:28] Chip shares some additional insights on what they discovered after visiting 100 of the best schools in the world. [31:12] Jeanine shares her key insights on innovation and equity. [34:19] Mary Jane shares what is currently on her ‘shortlist’ for innovation opportunities. [36:04] Chip shares what is on his shortlist for innovation. [38:13] Jeanine shares what is on her own shortlist for innovation. [39:29] Tom chimes in with an innovation of his own and thanks Jeanine, Chip, and Mary Jane for joining the Getting Smart Podcast.   Mentioned in This Episode: Rashawn “Shawnee” Caruthers | Getting Smart Nevada Succeeds Nevada Succeeds InspirED Global Fellowship Jeanine Collins’ LinkedIn Mary Jean Gallagher’s Twitter Chip Kimball’s LinkedIn Reflect Forward University of Nevada, Las Vegas The Devil Is in the Details: System Solutions for Equity, Excellence, and Student Well-Being, by Michael Fullan and Mary Jean Gallagher Ontario Ministry of Education Las Vegas Sands Singapore American School International School of Prague The Knowing-Doing Gap: How Smart Companies Turn Knowledge into Action, by Jeffrey Pfeffer and Robert I. 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This week's episode was recorded live at Holy Cross College's Staff Professional Development Day. This episode captures the reflections of staff as they delve into Michael Fullan's 6Cs. Our staff captured better ways to embed the 6Cs into their practice and, how to build entrepreneurial qualities in our students. An outline of the PD Day can be found here: https://www.holycross.wa.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Professional-Learning-Day-February-2021-PUBLISH.pdf

Innovator by title, innovation by pedagogy! Have a listen to how Emilie Lowe embraces the chaos of the classroom to delve into teaching soft skills in her classroom. Year 12 Modern History and English teacher, Emilie, shares about moving away from valuing curriculum and knowledge, and into embracing soft skills such as Michael Fullan's 6Cs - even when it means embracing the chaos!

Citizen of the world yet Québécois and Canadian at heart, Philippe Caron-Auget is an international educator who has worked in Switzerland, Czech Republic, Qatar, France, Gabon, Cameron, and Nigeria. Over the course of his seven years spent in Tunisia, he embarked on his leadership journey. Risk-taker, inquirer, and adept at vulnerability, he’s been inspired by Michael Fullan, Patrick Lencioni, Rick Wormeli, Elena Aguilar, and Benjamin Zander. In 2018, Philippe joined a world-class team of fierce and resilient Blue Terriers at the International School of Boston, where he now serves as Secondary School Director.   Show Highlights Trust comes with time Critical ways to disconnect from the intense demand of leadership each month leveraging compassion and empathy to influence leadership Detractors will become your strongest allies A sign of a strong leader and what you need to be exposed to early Sentences that really change the course of your life  Practice mindfulness to support your strategic strategies   “We cannot demand trust. It's not something that can be required or demanded. If you're going to stand in front of a group and say, I need you to trust me on this that cannot be done on the first day, the first week one could argue the first year when people see your patterns, if you are consistent in your approach and the way you communicate in the way you are present, visible and the way you handle difficult, difficult conversations, issues as they arise, then trust will come.”  -Philippe Caron-Audet   Full Transcript Philippe Caron-Audet Transcript   Philippe’sResources & Contact Info: Facebook Instagram LinkedIn   Looking for more? Read The Better Leaders Better Schools Roadmap Join “The Mastermind” Read the latest on the blog   Show Sponsors HARVARD GRADUATE SCHOOL OF EDUCATION Transform how you lead to become a resilient and empowered change agent with Harvard’s online Certificate in School Management and Leadership. Grow your professional network with a global cohort of fellow school leaders as you collaborate in case studies bridging the fields of education and business. Apply today at http://hgse.me/leader. SMART TECHNOLOGIES The SMART Learning Suite Online allows teachers to create, store, and deliver lessons from anywhere – no SMART Board required – and your students can access and engage with your content from any web browser on any device. And it connects with tools you already use like Google Classroom and Microsoft Teams. The research-backed EdTeach Assessment Tool will help Ruckus Makers discover their strengths and best area of focus across 5 different modules, including leadership and remote learning. You’ll get a personalized report that shows where you stack up against other leaders, and maps some areas of focus that will have the greatest impact for you.    ORGANIZED BINDER Organized Binder is the missing piece in many classrooms. Many teachers are great with the main content of the lesson. Organized Binder helps with powerful introductions, savvy transitions, and memorable lesson closings. Your students will grow their executive functioning skills (and as a bonus), your teachers will become more organized too. Help your students and staff level up with Organized Binder.   Copyright © 2021 Twelve Practices LLC

Join us on November 05, 2020, at 2 PM GMT for LIVE Broadcast. Our special guest today is Prof. Michael Fullan. He is an Author, Speaker, Educational Consultant. Prof. Michael Fullan is a well-known expert in Whole System Change in Education and the Global Leadership Director, New Pedagogies for Deep Learning. He is a former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE) of the University of Toronto. Prof. Fullan advises policymakers and local leaders around the world to provide leadership in education. Through his work with NPDL, he encourages a transformative approach to education, seeing teachers as 'activators of learning' who should help pupils to discover their talents and passions. His writing and advocacy work is based on research and practice from the public and private sectors. Nowadays we observe that our society is going through crises in all spheres of life, economical, political, etc. And education turned out to be one of the most sensitive spheres. How to improve the educational system? We will talk about the Сreative society and how Prof. Michael Fullan envisions the development of the education system and science in it. If you would like to be a guest on our next program, please email us with your request at info@allatraunites.com #allatraunites #creativesociety #education

This conversation with Michael Fullan packs a lot of big ideas relating to the nature and necessity of change (post-COVID and in general) and the role of technology going forward.

What if you were told that your own Ignorant Truths is getting in the way of progress? What opportunities could exist if you owned your Ignorant Truth to collaborate, learn and connect more? And how do you feel about the need for Ferocious Warmth is leadership? Tracey Ezard is an author of two books, ‘The Buzz – Creating a Thriving and Collaborative Staff Learning Culture’ designed for education leaders to support schools to bring about transformation in the classroom and ‘Glue. The Stuff that Binds Us Together to do Extraordinary Work’ for leaders across all sectors who want to lift beyond convention to create high performing teams. She is currently working on her third book ‘Ferocious Warmth: Connecting Heads and Hearts to Transform Education’. As a speaker, author, educator and mentor, Tracey helps teams thrive by focusing on building collaboration and learning.  Her Buzz Diagnostic has been used by over 400 schools and has had over 4000 educators participate. Tracey has run leadership programs for education and system leaders for over 15 years in all education sectors in a number of states and in New Zealand. She has presented in conferences on programs alongside educational global leaders such as Professors John Hattie, Michael Fullan, Carol Dweck and Lynn Sharrat, Maggie Farrar and Pasi Sahlberg. She builds the capacity of leaders and staff to create an energy buzz about the work and alignment on the future plans. She helps leaders and staff co-create and collaborate - and most importantly, learn deeply with each other as they do so. In this podcast we talked about: -       The duality of leadership -       The need for Ferocious Warmth amongst our leaders -       Creating the space for learning and unlocking the brilliance of others -       How our own assumptions, our Ignorant Truth, gets in the way. Find out more about Tracey and her work at www.traceyzard.com Enjoy

In this episode, best-selling author Michael Fullan, a worldwide authority on educational reform, shares insights from his work as an education advisor to Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Dalton McGuinty, former Premier of Ontario, and how each country has made systemic change in public education through the application of deeper learning strategies, Fullan also reflects on why the current K-12 education model has remained "stalled" and how the disruption of "pandemic education" might be the catalyst to create new and innovative strategies in a post-COVID-19 approach to teaching and learning. Twitter: @MichaelFullan1. Website: www.michaelfullan.ca. Meet Michael Fullan Michael Fullan, OC is the former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, and Professor Emeritus of the University of Toronto. He is co-leader of the New Pedagogies for Deep Learning global initiative (npdl.global). Recognized as a worldwide authority on educational reform, he advises policymakers and local leaders in helping to achieve the moral purpose of all children learning. Michael Fullan received the Order of Canada in December 2012. He holds honorary doctorates from several universities around the world. Fullan is a prolific, award-winning author whose books have been published in many languages. His book Leading in a Culture of Change received the 2002 Book of the Year Award by Learning Forward, Breakthrough (with Peter Hill and Carmel Crévola) won the 2006 Book of the Year Award from the American Association of Colleges for Teacher Education (AACTE), and Turnaround Leadership in Higher Education (with Geoff Scott) won the Bellwether Book Award in 2009. Change Wars (with Andy Hargreaves) was named the 2009 Book of the Year by Learning Forward, and Professional Capital (with Andy Hargreaves) won the AACTE 2013 Book of the Year, and the Grawemeyer Award in Education in 2015. Michael Fullan’s latest books are: Nuance: Why Some Leaders Succeed and Others Fail, Surreal Change: The Real Life of Transforming Public Education (autobiography), Deep Learning: Engage the World Change the World (with Joanne Quinn and Joanne McEachen), Coherence: Putting the Right Drivers in Action (with Joanne Quinn), and The Principal: Three Keys for Maximizing Impact. For more information on books, articles and videos, please visit www.michaelfullan.ca About Dr. Greg Goins As the Founder/Host of the Reimagine Schools Podcast, Dr. Greg Goins has emerged as one of the nation's leading voices on visionary leadership and the path to transforming our schools. He currently serves as the Director of the Educational Leadership Program at Georgetown College (KY) and previously spent 15 years as a school district superintendent in Illinois. Dr. Goins is a passionate keynote speaker and is available to speak at your next education conference or school PD day. To book Dr. Goins, please send inquiries to drgreggoins@gmail.com. Twitter: @DrGregGoins. Website: www.reimagineschools.net. Support The Reimagine Schools Podcast You can now help keep the conversation going by supporting the Reimagine Schools Podcast with a small monthly donation to help sustain future episodes. Thanks for your support! https://anchor.fm/greg-goins/supportIn this episode, --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/greg-goins/support

In this episode, Dan Bock and I talk about how he has used the principles contained in Coherence in his large, comprehensive high school.

Episode Notes Episode Transcript HERE Further reading: 0:38 The Innovation Unit, where I used to work 0:44 Agile School Leadership 0:50 Teaching Sprints 2:05 The OECD and PISA 4:54 Valerie Hannon 4:59 Tony Mackay 5:03 Michael Fullan 5:16 Michael Fullan, "Large-scale Reform Comes of age" 6:38 Andreas Schleicher 8:16 Jeffrey Sachs 15:10 Anthony Bryk on Networked Improvement Communities 15:28 Nelson Gonzalez 17:41 Anthony Bryk, Learning to Improve 18:11 IDEO Design Thinking, Human-centered Design 18:15 Agile Development 18:19 Lean Startup 18:31 Implementation Science 22:07 James Clear, Atomic Habits 22:16 BJ Fogg, Tiny Habits 27:34 Boulder, Pebble, Sand protocol

This month on Getting Smart, the podcasts will be focused on the theme of difference-making — which is also the subject of a new book launched just this week by Tom Vander Ark and Emily Liebtag, Difference Making at the Heart of Learning: Students, Schools, and Communities Alive With Possibility. To kick things off, Joanne McEachen is joining the podcast to have a conversation with Tom about her newest book, The Depthvale Detectives and the Great Education Crisis: A Guide to Contributive Learning in Schools. Joanne is the founder and CEO of The Learner First, an international education consultancy. The ‘welcome’ to her new book, The Depthvale Detectives and the Great Education Crisis, promises that all students can learn to contribute and add to the world in all manners of ways. And, when they do, no matter their plans or pursuits, they’ll have what they need to find real success. This book is a story for both educators, parents, and students about using your powers (AKA what you’re learning) for good. These powers can help you discover what it takes to contribute and how to make wellbeing, meaning, and fulfillment the ultimate outcomes of all that you do. In Joanne’s conversation with Tom, they discuss how schools can commit to contributive learning so that all students can learn how to add to the world, what is important to measure, the key elements of deep learning, and the fascinating five-phase change process that she outlines in her newest book, The Depthvale Detectives and the Great Education Crisis.   Key Takeaways: [:10] About today’s episode. [1:06] Tom welcomes Joanne McEachen to the podcast. [1:18] Joanne elaborates on what her email signature, “Meaning and fulfillment is the new wealth, and contribution is the only way to earn it,” means. [2:36] How Joanne thinks about contribution and what it means. [5:06] The ‘welcome’ to Joanne’s new book, The Depthvale Detectives and the Great Education Crisis, where she first made the discovery of the sentiment described, and what it means. [7:27] Contributive learning: the new superpower. [7:49] Joanne shares about growing up in New Zealand and how her education has shaped her current philosophy around education. [8:48] All of Joanne’s books indicate a strong sense of purpose and measuring what matters. She elaborates on how she developed the ideas in these books while leading two schools in New Zealand. [10:54] Joanne shares what is on her list of important things to measure and how she hopes they would be measured. [14:26] Joanne describes the elements of deep learning and what it has been like for her to write with Michael Fullan. [16:35] Joanne elaborates on what she and Michael mean when they speak about deep learning. [17:34] Why did Joanne choose a novel format for her new book, The Depthvale Detectives and the Great Education Crisis: A Guide to Contributive Learning in Schools? [19:28] Joanne cleverly worked in a five-phase change process into the story of her new book. Tom recaps the first two phases (1. Start with yourself; who are we really? 2. Pinpoint your purpose; why are we here?) and Joanne explains why it is important for teams to start with these ideas. [21:45] Joanne elaborates on the next two phases (3. Dive into outcomes; what do we want? 4. Plot your position; where are we now?). [23:22] Joanne explains what the final phase, “5: Invite teams to commit to contribution,” looks like. [25:15] What Karanga is, where to find it online, and why Joanne is passionate about it. [27:29] Where to find Joanne online and learn more about what she is up to. [27:51] Tom closes out the podcast with a beautiful sentiment from Joanne, and Joanne shares how people can incorporate this idea into their school. [28:38] Tom thanks Joanne for the work that she does and for joining the podcast. [29:08] About Tom and Emily’s new book, Difference Making at the Heart of Learning: Students, Schools, and Communities Alive With Possibility.   Mentioned in This Episode: Difference Making at the Heart of Learning: Students, Schools, and Communities Alive With Possibility, by Tom Vander Ark and Emily Liebtag Joanne McEachen The Learner First Twitter @TheLearnerFirst Twitter @JoanneMcEachen The Depthvale Detectives and the Great Education Crisis: A Guide to Contributive Learning in Schools, by Joanne McEachen and Matthew Kane Making the Important Measurable, Not the Measurable Important, by Joanne McEachen and Jane Davidson Measuring Human Return: Understand and Assess What Really Matters for Deeper Learning, by Joanne McEachen and Matthew Kane Michael Fullan Deep Learning: Engage the World Change the World, by Michael Fullan, Joanne Quinn, and Joanne McEachen Dive into Deep Learning: Tools for Engagement, by Joanne Quinn, Joanne McEachen, Michael Fullan, Mag Gardner, and Max Drummy Getting Smart Podcast Ep. 277: “Michael Fullan on Leading in a Culture of Change” Getting Smart Podcast Ep. 151: “Michael Fullan Sees Global Momentum for Deep Learning” Our Iceberg is Melting, by John Kotter and Holger Rathgeber Karanga.org   Get Involved: Check out the blog at GettingSmart.com. 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Today, the Getting Smart team is bringing you an episode on leading in a culture of change with Michael Fullan. Michael has been the world’s most persistent and persuasive advocate for powerful learning experiences. He is encouraged by the global momentum he sees with whole systems adopting deep learning strategies and policies. Twenty years after his best-selling book, Leading in a Culture of Change, Jossey-Bass released the second edition — certainly a timely resource! In this episode, Tom and Michael discuss the new edition of Leading in a Culture of Change and all that has been updated within its pages. With more than 50% of the words being completely new in the book, it is an incredibly important resource not to miss out on (even if you have read the first edition)! Michael gives listeners a preview of what he covers in this book as well as his views on what is currently happening in the world and how it is impacting the movement to deeper learning.   Key Takeaways: [:10] About today’s episode with Michael Fullan. [:41] Tom welcomes Michael back to the podcast! [:49] When was the first edition of Leading in a Culture of Change released? [1:08] How much did Michael rewrite in this second edition? [2:28] What is a ‘culture of change’? And what does it have to do with education leadership? [5:55] Why you need to read the second edition of Leading in a Culture of Change (even if you’ve already read the first edition). [6:51] Key differences between the first and second edition of the book. [9:20] What being a lead learner means. [10:22] The importance of the phrase, “I don’t know,” in unlocking deeper learning. [11:58] The five components of change leadership. Michael explains the first one, moral purpose. [12:48] Why it is more important to focus on impact than moral purpose. [13:30] Discussing the notion of unintended consequences and how they can come about. [14:32] The second of the five components of change leadership: understanding change. Michael also shares what he means by nuance when it comes to leaders that succeed vs. those that fail. [16:43] Change is complicated and requires us to study the nuances of change and to be prepared for things to occur differently than we had anticipated. Michael unpacks this idea and shares potential mistakes that can be made during change. [20:20] The third of the five components of change leadership: building relationships. [24:22] Reimagining education in light of the COVID-19 pandemic. [27:22] The fourth component of change leadership: creating and sharing knowledge. [32:23] The last of the five components of change leadership: creating coherence. [34:13] Is it easier to create coherence in a new school than an old school? How does Michael engineer coherence in an incoherent system that has layers of inherited policy, structure, and systems? [37:27] Is Michael still optimistic about more deep learning globally? [38:48] Tom thanks Michael for joining the podcast!   Mentioned in This Episode: Leading in a Culture of Change, by Michael Fullan — Grab yourself a copy here! Nuance: Why Some Leaders Succeed and Others Fail, by Michael Fullan Mary Parker Follett “Reimagining Education: From Remote to Hybrid Learning,” by Michael Fullan and Joanne Quinn in collaboration with Microsoft American Journal of Education (AJE) In Search of Deeper Learning: The Quest to Remake the American High School, by Jal Mehta and Sarah Fine Difference Making at the Heart of Learning: Students, Schools, and Communities Alive With Possibility, by Tom Vander Ark and Emily Liebtag Coherence: The Right Drivers in Action for Schools, Districts, and Systems, by Michael Fullan and Joanne Quinn The Devil Is in the Details: System Solutions for Equity, Excellence, and Student Well-Being, by Michael Fullan and Mary Jean Gallagher The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, by Thomas S. Kuhn   Get Involved: Check out the blog at GettingSmart.com. Find the Getting Smart Podcast on iTunes, leave a review and subscribe.   Is There Somebody You’ve Been Wanting to Learn From or a Topic You’d Like Covered? To get in contact: Email Editor@GettingSmart.com and include ‘Podcast’ in the subject line. The Getting Smart team will be sure to add them to their list!  

EDUCA พาคุยกับ อ.แหวว รศ.ดร. สิริพันธุ์ สุวรรณมรรคา โดยเป็นประเด็นจากรายการ Global Ed Talks กับ Anthony Mackay ที่มีโอกาสได้คุยกับนักการศึกษาระดับโลก Michael Fullan จากแคนาดา ผู้ที่มีความเชี่ยวชาญ และสนใจในระดับแนวหน้าของโลก ในเรื่องการเรียนรู้เชิงลึก Deep Learning การปฎิรูปการศึกษา และ ระบบของภาวะความเป็นผู้นำ Leadership จากบทสนทนาทำให้เราเข้าใจเรื่องการเรียนรู้เชิงลึก Deep Learning มากขึ้น และเป็นประเด็นที่ครูในศตวรรษนี้ต้องสนใจ 

In the third Global Ed Talks interview of 2020, Anthony Mackay is joined by Michael Fullan, recognized as an international authority on educational reform and co-director of the New Pedagogies for Deep Learning global initiative, for a discussion focused on the intersection of system leadership, deep learning and equity. During the interview, Fullan, the former dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE) and professor emeritus of the University of Toronto, shares insights from his recent book, The Devil Is in the Details: System Solutions for Equity, Excellence, and Student Well-being, and highlights opportunities for deeper learning presented by the coronavirus pandemic. Watch the interview below or listen as a podcast on iTunes or Spotify.

In this LIVE radio conversation, educator, author and systems thinker, Michael Fullan is joined by former CEO of the Canadian Education Association, Ron Canuel to talk about the signals, signs, challenges and opportunities emerging in this time of COVID-19. We talk about the shifting policy landscape as well as new demands for a different type of education leadership moving forward.

For this episode I had the great honor to speak with Dr. Mike Schmoker. Dr. Schmoker is a former administrator, English teacher and football coach. He has written several bestselling books and dozens of articles for educational journals, newspapers and for TIME magazine. His most recent bestseller is the expanded 2018 edition of FOCUS: Elevating the Essentials to Radically Improve Student Learning (ASCD, 2018). His previous bestsellers include: Leading with FOCUS and Results NOW. Speaking with Dr. Schmoker reminds me of how many competing pressures teachers, administrators, parents and students feel to achieve or master so, so many skills and tasks. Dr. Schmoker helps us take a step back and reevaluate what are real priorities. During this dialogue, Mike shares his wisdom around how to create a coherent curriculum within teacher teams, he provides his ideas around how simple authentic literacies truly are, and also gives us permission to focus, focus, focus. In other words, he illustrates by simplifying and focusing on a smaller number of shared goals, priorities, and values that we would do dramatically better in the way of student outcomes. This is a principle shared and confirmed by volumes of studies and research, including the work of Michael Fullan. Throughout my experience in the classroom as well as in leadership, I know I have always felt a sense of constantly tumbling in an avalanche of expectations, standards, tasks, and more. Mike uses the word shock to describe what it feels like to enter the classroom for the first time. I want to share his message because I believe focus is one of the critical shifts we need to make in education and as parents if we want to truly make a difference in the lives of children. Resources: Dr. Schmoker's Website Links to Dr. Schmoker's Books: Focus: Elevating the Essentials to Radically Improve Student Learning, 2nd Edition FOCUS: Elevating the Essentials to Radically Improve Student Learning Link to Results NOW Link to Additional Resources

   Kirsten Richert and Jeff Ikler talk with me today about their new book - Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change. They also tell us about their audio podcast Getting Unstuck - Shift for Impact. Thanks for listening. Lots to learn. Please feel free to share and subscribe. This is episode 285 of the audio podcast Teaching Learning Leading K12. Kirsten Richert (KEAR-sten RICK-urt) is an innovation expert who works with leaders on transformational efforts. Kirsten teaches Design Thinking, Communication and Innovation at a number of colleges in the greater NYC area. Her teaching draws upon her experience in three core disciplines—business management, ideation methodology, and facilitation. She received her undergraduate degree in Social Science from Hampshire College, her master’s degree in Social Studies Education from Teachers College at Columbia University, and her training in innovation and facilitation methods from SIT (Systematic Inventive Thinking) and ToP (Technology of Participation). Formerly Vice President of Product Management and Marketing at Pearson, the world’s leading educational publisher, Kirsten oversaw the creation of breakthrough “digital-first” K-12 curriculum. Trained as a corporate on-call innovation coach, she’s helped teams plan new efforts, generate ideas, and execute on strategies. Now, as an innovation catalyst, Kirsten guides change efforts for organizations, especially in the areas of education and human development. She is particularly interested in organizations that integrate the arts into their work towards social change, such as the Alliance for Arts and Health New Jersey, Real Beauty: Uncovered, and The Barat Foundation. Jeff Ikler (EYE-klur) is Director of Quetico Career and Leadership Coaching, a firm dedicated to helping individuals overcome career issues, and leaders develop sustained changes in their leadership practices and organizations. He received his certificate in coaching from the Coach Training Institute, a firm recognized as one of the leading coach-training organizations in the world. His approach blends data-driven coaching, and consulting informed by working for more than 35 years in the corporate world. Jeff holds a Master’s in the Teaching of History along with a Bachelor’s in History from the University of Illinois. He taught high school history in Maywood and Batavia, Illinois, for seven years. Like Kirsten, he is a certified innovation facilitator using the SIT (Systematic Inventive Thinking) process. He is a former Executive Vice President at Pearson Learning where he directed the development of text- and technology-based products for all disciplines. He finished his career at Pearson by leading the development of its multi-dimensional Leadership Development program for school administrators, working closely with authors Lyle Kirtman and Michael Fullan. He currently works with Lyle Kirtman to support change in school districts and nonprofit organizations.Kirsten and Jeff also co-host Getting Unstuck – Shift for impact, a podcast that helps individuals and organizations undertake productive change – change that helps them achieve their desired outcomes and impact. Glad that you are here! Thanks for listening! Enjoy! Connect with Kirsten and Jeff: https://us.corwin.com/en-us/nam/shifting/book267770#reviews https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/getting-unstuck-shift-for-impact/id1439952788 http://richertinnovation.com/ https://www.queticocoaching.com/ Jeff@queticocoaching.com http://www.richertinnovation.com/contact.html https://twitter.com/RichertInnovate https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffikler/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstenrichert/ https://www.amazon.com/Shifting-School-Leaders-Create-Culture/dp/1544381395/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Shifting%3A+How+School+Leaders+Can+Create+a+Culture+of+Change&qid=1584022814&s=books&sr=1-1   Length - 44:15

CariJo Drewitz is the Director of Curriculum, Instruction, and Assessment for the West St. Paul Public Schools. In her role she wears many hats. You will hear how her job is partly defined by the accountability mentality as described by Michael Fullan. You will also hear of the efforts to increase deeper learning for students by reinforcing pedagogical strategies. The curriculum role varies among districts both in job responsibilities and in placement on district organizational charts but it is a role that is at the heart of what we do in education—creating effective learning practices and environments for students.

Michael Fullan: School System Improvement | Steve Hargadon | Mar 28 2013 by Steve Hargadon

On today’s podcast, Tom speaks with Hank Stratton and Ted Kraus from the University of Arizona. Hank teaches acting and Ted Kraus is the Technical Director at the School of Theatre, Film, and Television. Together, they represent performance and production.   Tom and Hank both see the theater as a place for problem-based learning, where students learn soft skills that translate into every profession. They believe that theatre teaches self-awareness and empathy, as well as project management skills, and would like to see all young people participate in the performing arts, from elementary school through college.   Listen to today’s conversation to hear their stories, experiences, and collaborations in the theatre that illustrate how performing arts experiences are a great example of deep learning.   Key Takeaways: [:15] About today’s episode. [1:02] Tom welcomes Hank and Ted to the podcast! [1:09] Hank speaks about when he first began acting and his experiences in high school theatre. [2:20] Did Hank participate in other arts outside of acting? [2:43] The similarities in theatre and music performance. [4:17] Ted speaks about his path to the theatre. [5:55] What originally drew Ted to the “back to the house” (AKA production). [7:14] Would Ted consider himself a capable project manager? [8:07] About the High Quality Project Based Learning project. [9:01] Ted and Hank discuss the parallels between production and performance, as well as self-assessment and soft skills. [12:05] How does Hank make the case for theatre for visiting students? [14:47] What young people learn about empathy from both acting and behind-the-scenes production. [17:05] What kind of participation would Hank see in K-12 education for the performing arts if he could just wave a magic wand? [21:35] Does Ted believe that every student should participate in at least two performing arts in every grade span? [23:52] Do Hank and Ted agree with the sentiment that teenagers who do world-class work are a result of really tough feedback in a safe space. [25:24] How Hank and Ted help students develop a picture of “good.” [31:26] Hank and Tom’s recommendations to where listeners should follow-up on to learn more!   For More on the Global Momentum for Deep Learning, Listen to: Episode 151 with Michael Fullan on GettingSmart.com!   Mentioned in This Episode: University of Arizona Project Management Institute (PMI) High Quality Project Based Learning (HQPBL.org) Buck Institute for Education The Man Who Came to Dinner TFTV.Arizona.edu   Get Involved: Check out the blog at GettingSmart.com. Find the Getting Smart Podcast on iTunes, leave a review and subscribe.   Is There Somebody You’ve Been Wanting to Learn From or a Topic You’d Like Covered? To get in contact: Email Editor@GettingSmart.com and include ‘Podcast’ in the subject line. The Getting Smart team will be sure to add them to their list!

Michael Fullan is the Global Leadership Director, New Pedagogies for Deep Learning. For over half a century, Michael has been thinking deeply about systems of education around the world and continues to advise, consult and write about the journey of change.In our very first conversation with Michael, we explore some of the broad ideas from his latest book, "Nuance: Why Some Leaders Succeed and Others Fail"

January 14, 2019 - The inaugural episode of Blueprint Symposium introduces the BP Dialogue series. In the first segment Diving Deeper, Dr. Grant Chandler discusses One Vision, One Strategic Plan and Aligning all Efforts through Systemic Configuration. The second segment, Becoming a Network of Disruptors dives into Michael Fullan's new book, "Indelible Leadership" and Killing the Status Quo. Finally, Dr. Chandler engages in a conversation about changing the paradigm needed to realize high-quality instruction with Kathy Mohney, Associate Director of the MI Excel Statewide Field Team.

In this special episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Erik Day and Mary Ryerse are (temporarily) kicking Caroline and Jessica out of the studio to talk about what they’ve learned (and shared) about competency-based education at the this year’s iNACOL Symposium.   Getting Smart staff recently published a landscape report on the state of competency-based education (CBE), entitled: “Show What You Know: A Landscape Analysis of Competency-Based Education,” which was discussed at a panel with Mary and a fantastic group of education thought leaders at the iNACOL Symposium. Following that, Mary had a conversation with Tom where they recapped their findings of the report, as well as some of the leading schools and districts that are personalizing learning and pacing.   In this episode, the Getting Smart team will be sharing portions of the panel and Mary’s subsequent conversation with Tom. You will be hearing from Michele Cahill, Managing Director of School Success, at XQ; David Ruff, Executive Director of Great Schools Partnership; and Shatoya Jordan Ward, the Principal of Purdue Polytechnic High School (at XQ). Tune in to hear their takes on competency-based education!   Key Takeaways: [:14] About today’s special episode. [1:16] Tom and Mary set the stage for the report. [1:34] Mary’s favorite examples of competency-based learning in her own life. [3:17] Mary and Tom discuss the premise of the report and how it all came to be. [5:00] Why competency-based is more appropriate than measuring learning through grade levels. [6:18] The importance of keeping equity at the forefront of competency-based learning. [7:24] Mary introduces the thought leaders involved in the panel. [7:38] Michele speaks about her time in New York City. [8:45] What Shatoya has learned about competency-based learning. [9:38] David shares his thoughts and passion for competency-based learning. [10:17] Mary summarizes the five key themes they explored in the panel about competency-based learning. [10:43] Mary and Tom discuss noteworthy model schools and networks. [13:49] The panel’s thoughts on what makes a noteworthy model school or network. [19:01] Tom and Mary discuss competency learning processes and tools. [20:15] Tom mentions some promising partnerships where model schools are being developed in conjunction with toolsets. [20:58] Mary talks about the importance of utilizing tools. [21:25] Shatoya elaborates more on the tools and model at Purdue Polytechnic High School. [24:11] Michelle talks about competency tools and their goals at XQ. [27:38] The panel discusses well-informed assessments. [29:41] The panels discusses some of the challenging parts of competency-based learning and some of the significant barriers involved. [34:44] The importance of sharing and getting feedback. [35:23] The panel discusses policy and advocacy around competency-based education. [38:57] Michele and David answer an audience question about scaling competency-based education. [43:39] Tom and Mary discuss how to best prepare teachers for (and support them in) competency-based environments. [44:46] The panel’s observations on the subject of teacher prep. [47:34] Mary’s final words for wrapping up this week’s episode and Erik’s recommendations for further listening.   Want to Listen to More on This Topic? Take a listen to Episode 151 where Tom talks with Michael Fullan about how schools worldwide are redefining learning outcomes, and Episode 158, where Tom and Lydia Dobyns discuss why and how schools should work together in networks.   Mentioned in This Episode: iNACOL iNACOL Symposium XQ Institute “Show What You Know: A Landscape Analysis of Competency-Based Education” Great Schools Partnership Purdue Polytechnic High School Lindsay Unified School District League of Innovative Schools Nokomis High School Empower Learning Teton Science School DSST Public Schools   Get Involved: Check out the blog at GettingSmart.com. Find the Getting Smart Podcast on iTunes, leave a review and subscribe.   Is There Somebody You’ve Been Wanting to Learn From or a Topic You’d Like Covered? To get in contact: Email Editor@GettingSmart.com and include ‘Podcast’ in the subject line. The Getting Smart team will be sure to add them to their list!

Recently, Tom went to Europe to visit the founders of MyMachine. MyMachine is a 10-year-old nonprofit in Belgium that helps brings dreams to life by recruiting college design students and high school prototypers to help bring to life the dreams of elementary students.   While visiting MyMachine, Tom asked the three co-founders — Jan Despiegelaere, Piet Grymonprez, and Filip Meuris — about the origin story of MyMachine and how they've scaled up to help over half a million students worldwide gain creativity, entrepreneurship, and agency. Tom and the founders also discuss some of their favorite, standout answers to, “If we can build a dream machine for you, what would that machine do?”; the steps and educational levels involved in the process; the growth they hope to see for MyMachine in the educational system; and all about the skill benefits students gain from MyMachine.   Key Takeaways: [:14] About today's podcast and guest. [1:20] The MyMachine founders introduce themselves. [1:44] Co-founder Jan describes the location of MyMachine. [3:21] Do the co-founders feel that the education system is not keeping up with the thriving economy in Europe? [4:25] Filip tells the story of the origin of MyMachine. [6:30] When did Piet hear about this idea and come to think about it as an organization? [8:25] What is the prompt MyMachine gives to elementary students in the classroom? [9:30] Some of the answers from elementary students and the values and agency it builds for them. [12:10] One of the MyMachine answers that stood out most for Jan. [13:50] One of Filip's favorite MyMachine ideas. [15:33] Why are three groups of students (elementary, secondary, and higher ed) involved in the MyMachine process? [18:13] The skill benefits that the students gain from MyMachine. [21:07] What benefits do Jan's corporate and philanthropic partners see in the program? Why do they support MyMachine? [23:11] What does success look like to the founders? How will the world be better 5-10 years from now with the growth and success of MyMachine? [25:10] Does Jan see MyMachine making schools better and different in the future? [26:48] Filip's thoughts on what success looks like a few years from now.   Mentioned in This Episode: MyMachine-global.org “Teaching Students How to Bring Their Dreams to Life” (Piet's blog post on GettingSmart.com)   For More on Design Thinking, Check Out: S3:E35 “What's Up With All the Design-Focused Schools?” for a review on design-focused schools and S3:E32 “Michael Fullan Sees Global Momentum for Deep Learning” to learn why Michael Fullan is so optimistic that deeper learning is a global trend.   Get Involved: Check out the blog at GettingSmart.com. Find the Getting Smart Podcast on iTunes, leave a review and subscribe.   Is There Somebody You've Been Wanting to Learn From or a Topic You'd Like Covered? To get in contact: Email Editor@GettingSmart.com and include ‘Podcast' in the subject line. The Getting Smart team will be sure to add them to their list!  

Today, The Getting Smart team is super excited to bring you a conversation with Michael Fullan. As Tom would say, Michael is Canada's gift to education. For half a century and with 45 books to his credit, Michael has been the world's most persistent and persuasive advocate for powerful learning experiences. Michael is encouraged by the global momentum he sees with whole systems adopting deep learning strategies and policies.   If you've been on Getting Smart's blog recently, you know the team has started a project around rethinking the high school credential — so asking Michael about this topic was an incredible opportunity for the team.   Listen to this episode to hear Tom and Michael discuss the potential for better high school credentials and how the assessment system is changing — moving away from standardized tests and towards global competencies. Michael goes into detail, outlining the signs of progress and describing why he thinks the focus should be “life readiness” rather than college and career readiness. He also talks about the many books he has authored and co-authored and explains his ideas and theories from them and how they've shown up in education today.   Key Takeaways: [:16] About today's episode with Michael Fullan. [1:00] Tom welcomes Michael to The Getting Smart podcast! [1:06] About Michael's upbringing in Toronto, where he went to high school and college, and where he formed his deep interest in education. [2:26] About Michael's most recent book — his autobiography, Surreal Change: The Real Life of Transforming Public Education. [3:44] How Michael's book, Change Forces: Probing the Depths of Educational Reform, influenced Tom as a Superintendent in the 90s, and Michael's views on his ideas and theories in the book. [5:05] How The Challenge of Change and All Systems Go were pivot points for Tom. [5:51] About Tom and Michael's connection over Stratosphere. [6:30] More about some of the fantastic books and topics covered by Michael in previous publications. [8:48] How Michael thinks about the potential for a better high school credential, how the assessment system is changing (moving away from standardized tests), and the concept of global competencies. [11:56] About the shift from standardized tests to global competencies. [16:51] How should educators be certifying and helping students communicate their growth, capabilities, and accomplishments to employers and institutes of higher learning? [22:27] The importance of “life-readiness” and hands-on skills for students. [24:09] Is Michael interested in microcredentials or badges as a part of a system of communicating capability? [25:37] Michael's views on the world's current shift to deeper learning. [27:22] Michael's prediction for the next 12 months.   Mentioned in This Episode: Routledge Corwin High Tech High Surreal Change: The Real Life of Transforming Public Education, by Michael Fullan Change Forces: Probing the Depths of Educational Reform, by Michael Fullan The Challenge of Change: Start School Improvement Now!, by Michael Fullan All Systems Go: The Change Imperative for Whole System Reform, by Michael Fullan Stratosphere: Integrating Technology, Pedagogy, and Change Knowledge, by Michael Fullan The Power of Unstoppable Momentum: Key Drivers to Revolutionize Your District (and Integrate Technology in the Classroom), by Michael Fullan and Mark A. Edwards Coherence: The Right Drivers in Action for Schools, Districts, and Systems, by Michael Fullan and Joanne Quinn Deep Learning: Engage the World Change the World, by Michael Fullan, Joanne Quinn, and Joanne J. McEachen   Want to Visit a Deeper Learning School? Listen in to The Getting Smart team's walking tour of Design Tech High: “S3: E25 Building Transferable Skills: Design Tech High At Oracle Campus“ For even more on deeper learning, take a look at all of the blog posts on GettingSmart.com.   Get Involved: Check out the blog at GettingSmart.com. Find the Getting Smart Podcast on iTunes, leave a review and subscribe.   Is There Somebody You've Been Wanting to Learn From or a Topic You'd Like Covered? To get in contact: Email Jessica@GettingSmart.com, Tweet @Getting_Smart, or leave a review. The Getting Smart team will be sure to add them to their list!

Greg Whitby chats with an educator and talks about the work of learning and teaching in today's world. This podcast is with Michael Fullan. Michael is the Global Leadership Director, New Pedagogies for Deep Learning. Former Dean of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education (OISE) of the University of Toronto, Michael advises policymakers and local leaders around the world to provide leadership in education.

Michael Fullan In this episode we have Michael Fullan, author of many books on education and the global leadership director with New Pedagogies for Deep Learning being interviewed by Jo Anderson, co-executive director of the Consortium for Educational Change. Michael discusses the right drivers and the wrong drivers in education and how using the right drivers like collaboration and capacity building are the keys to student success.

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The Dynamic Duo is here! Jeff Veal & Nathan Lang join me on the show to discuss the idea behind starting #leadupchat 7 LeadUpNow. #Leadupchat is my favorite Twitter chat. It happens every single Saturday 8:30-9:30 am CST. Show Highlights why every educator needs a voice how to empower educators on their campus what’s next for LeadUp people are hungry for connection do your people feel valued, loved, cared for, heard? focus on value not numbers importance of community the power of “YES" go ahead and work 24/7 … you still won’t get it all done stick with your true north people don’t need your next great idea … celebrate what is happening right now! Resources LeadUpNow Website What great principals do differently - Todd Whitaker   The principal - Michael Fullan   Multipliers - Liz Wiseman   Follow Jeff Veal   Follow Nathan Lang Do you need accountability? Text BETTERMASTERMIND to 33444 Daniel wants to work with you and help you accelerate your leadership development and increase your impact.   Follow Me and Get Behind the Scenes Access on SNAPCHAT!!!   BECOME A PATRON OF THE SHOW FOR AS LITTLE AS $1/MONTH DID YOU LIKE THE SHOW?  iTunes SUBSCRIBE HERE! SHOW SOME LOVE: PLEASE LEAVE A 5-STAR RATING AND REVIEW Grab your FREE 15 Phrases of Effective School Leaders  Text PHRASES to 33444 or click the link above.   Website :: Facebook :: Insta :: Twitter :: LinkedIn

Job Christians mede-oprichter en directeur van onderwijsadviesbureau Onderwijs Maak Je Samen is ook uitgever van een hele reeks boeken over leiderschap in het onderwijs. Vooral de vertalingen van de boeken van Canadese grootheid Michael Fullan, vinden gretig aftrek. In deze 21 minuten durende podcast gaan Frans Schouwenburg en Michael van Wetering in gesprek met Job over het net verschenen boek Vrijheid in verandering, van Michael Fullan. Het is een boek dat een antwoord geeft op de meest lastige aspecten bij het leidinggeven aan veranderen: Hoe creeer je een cultuur van samenwerking, feedback, verantwoording en verspreiding? Hoe kun je de complexe werkelijkheid van een school terugbrengen tot een behapbare en begrijpelijke simpelheid, ofwel Simplexiteit? Zoals altijd in de vertalingen van OMJS en hun partner Stichting de Brink, is het laatste hoofdstuk niet van Fullan, maar een reflectie op het boek vanuit de Nederlandse situatie. Genoeg gespreksstof dus en veel te beluisteren voor iedereen die in het onderwijs werkt, want 'leidinggeven vanuit het midden’ in een professionele cultuur, is niet alleen voorbestemd aan de formeel leidinggevenden in de school maar aan iedereen. Het boek is te bestellen op: http://www.onderwijsmaakjesamen.nl/magento/vrijheid-in-verandering-leidinggeven-complex-of-toch-simpel.html 

Better Leaders Better Schools guest Paul Erickson is the proud principal of Union Valley Elementary School in Hutchinson, KS. This is Paul’s seventh year as a building principal and 12th year in education. Paul has always summed up quality school leadership the same way he has summed up quality classroom teaching–if what you do is all about kids and taking them to unprecedented levels of learning, then you can do NO WRONG! He is passionate about creating and sustaining positive school cultures, maximizing collaborative opportunities for teachers, integrating technology, and helping others harness the power of Professional Learning Networks.    LeadUpNow is at the heart of his own PLN. Paul has led staff development on the concepts of Technology Leadership and Professional Learning Communities. He also has organized and led the Beginning Principals Workshop for the Kansas Association of Elementary School Principals from 2012-present. In 2014, he was recognized as KAESP’s National Distinguished Principal.   Outside of education, Paul enjoys spending time with family and friends. Paul and his wife, Tasha, have a three-year-old daughter, Stelli. He is also a Big Brother via Big Brothers/Big Sisters and coaches a 5th Grade Dodge Ball team each year at his school through the local YMCA.   In this episode you will learn: How to build great relationships through 2 key tips When to use humor in your leadership Why you should extend the benefit of the doubt to everyone Paul’s use of a daily morning assembly How being “connected” helped develop his leadership style Why failing to disperse leadership is a key mistake The power of taking risks The power of planning each day How to create a mobile office What is group capital and why you need to know   Resources:   The Principal by Michael Fullan   iPad   Voxer   Connect with Paul   Paul's blog   Do you need accountability? Text BETTERMASTERMIND to 33444 Daniel wants to work with you and help you accelerate your leadership development and increase your impact.   DID YOU LIKE THE SHOW?  iTunes SUBSCRIBE HERE! SHOW SOME LOVE: PLEASE LEAVE A 5-STAR RATING AND REVIEW Website :: Facebook :: Twitter :: LinkedIn Grad your FREE 15 Phrases of Effective School Leaders  Text PHRASES to 33444 or click the link above.   BECOME A PATRON OF THE SHOW FOR AS LITTLE AS $1/MONTH

Michael Fullan of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education delivers a lecture entitled Schools in Need of Re-Education

Michael Fullan of the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education delivers a lecture entitled Schools in Need of Re-Education

Have you ever thought what our nation would be like if it wasn't for all the Catholic Charities? This week, Michael Fullan, Executive Director of Catholic Charities of Toronto tells us about their 100 years in the Archdiocese. Gillian Kantor tells us what her kids taught her this week and we mee...

Have you ever thought what our nation would be like if it wasn’t for all the Catholic Charities? This week, Michael Fullan, Executive Director of Catholic Charities of Toronto tells us about their 100 years in the Archdiocese. Gillian Kantor tells us what her kids taught her this week and we mee...

Featuring authors Andy Hargreaves and Michael Fullan; and invited panelists Lucy Calkins, Warren Simmons, Randi Weingarten, Mary Arevalo, and more. Moderated by TC President Susan Fuhrman.

Cheryl Jackson interviews Michael Fullan, one of the leading experts on how education must change to serve the needs of our children's futures

Bach's , writers are fun to hang out with, but you're afraid of our competition, My first ! Looking for a dime and trying not to be a martyr. (Now you'll have to listen. That won't make any sense otherwise!) Disclaimer for this week's episode below. Get your pattern in the Knitting Pattern-a-day Calendar* and go check out Plato and a Platypus Walk Into a Bar... a really scary article Teresa sent in, OH! I forgot to say on the 'Cast--there's still one knitting book out there just waiting for a knitting disaster story. I have two...will you be the third?! Send 'em in. Don't be shy! Oh, and Chapters 21 and 22 of Book the Second! But, sadly, no Chip or Andy...not this week. They'll be back though. Promise! Don't forget to check out ! *The 411: $500 will be awarded as First place for both calendars; there are also 2nd and 3rd place prizes; and all contributors whose patterns are used will receive a 2009 calendar. Please go to our website at and learn more about the submission requirements and our contest. If you have any questions, please contact me and I will gladly answer your questions. You can also download the informational if you're interested. Good luck--and let me know if you win!!! Disclaimer: The "teacher as martyr" reference comes from an I read years ago--and an that's --that teachers are only "allowed" to fall into two categories: martyrs and saints. It went on to say that in any other profession this would be unacceptable, but that for some reason, teachers tend to work (and work well) within those confines. Which means when they no longer have the time or energy to be either, they have to quit. I am not saying that all teachers are martyrs, just that there are some (myself included) who fit that category. There are others (rarely ELA teachers) who manage to have a life and be a teacher. I could never find the balance. Follow up with from Michael Fullan's book,