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Our guest again this week is author and apologist Lindsey Medenwaldt, who continues to share with us insights and her personal experiences with apologetics and evangelism. The Apostle Paul tells his fellow Christians in Corinth to do all to the glory of God. What does that mean? Do we have to be a popular evangelist or a pastor or have a successful social media following to glorify God? Must we be gregarious, outgoing evangelists who have no fear of man in order to win the world to Jesus? No. In whatever situation in which God has placed us, we can do all for the glory of God. Our witness to the world is most effectively accomplished through how we live our lives, in whatever vocation that might be. Our witness should be authentic, sincere, and candid, so that a world in need of hope can see how we have a hope in Christ that does not disappoint. Lindsey Medenwaldt is the Director of Ministry Operations at Mama Bear Apologetics, and is the resident worldview and world religion specialist. She has a master's degree in apologetics and ethics from Denver Seminary, as well as a master's in public administration and a law degree. She's the author of Bridge-Building Apologetics (Harvest House, 2024). She's an editor and author for the Christian Research Journal, an editor for Women in Apologetics, and a member of the Pelican Project.Related Links: Access additional Watchman Fellowship resources related to this week's podcast: Watchman Fellowship 4-page Profile on Atheism by Dr. Robert M. Bowman: www.watchman.org/Atheism Watchman Fellowship 4-page Profile on Agnosticism by W. Russell Crawford: www.watchman.org/Agnostic Watchman Fellowship 4-page Profile on Naturalism by Daniel Ray: www.watchman.org/Naturalism Watchman Fellowship 4-page Profile on Deconstruction by Daniel Ray: www.watchman.org/Deconstruction Additional ResourcesFREE: We are also offering a subscription to our 4-page bimonthly Profiles here: www.watchman.org/Free.PROFILE NOTEBOOK: Order the complete collection of Watchman Fellowship Profiles (over 600 pages -- from Astrology to Zen Buddhism) in either printed or PDF formats here: www.watchman.org/notebook. SUPPORT: Help us create more content like this. Make a tax-deductible donation here: www.watchman.org/give.Apologetics Profile is a ministry of Watchman Fellowship For more information, visit www.watchman.org © Watchman Fellowship, Inc.

In the 12th chapter of Paul's first letter to Corinth, he reminds the church that "the body is not one member but many... the eye cannot say to the hand 'I have no need of you.'" The Spirit of God has distributed diverse gifts to the body of Christ. We each have unique gifts and abilities which we can use to help encourage and edify one another as fellow Christians. Though not all of us have the gift of evangelism, we are all called to be ready to give a defense for the hope that is in us, with gentleness and reverence. We are all included in the Great Commission. But we will each go about sharing our faith diverse and unique ways with others. Our guest this week and next is author and apologist Lindsey Medenwaldt. She shares some of her insights about apologetics and evangelism in her new book Bridge-Building Apologetics. Lindsey Medenwaldt is the Director of Ministry Operations at Mama Bear Apologetics, and is the resident worldview and world religion specialist. She has a master's degree in apologetics and ethics from Denver Seminary, as well as a master's in public administration and a law degree. She's the author of Bridge-Building Apologetics (Harvest House, 2024). She's an editor and author for the Christian Research Journal, an editor for Women in Apologetics, and a member of the Pelican Project.Related Links: Access additional Watchman Fellowship resources related to this week's podcast: Watchman Fellowship 4-page Profile on Atheism by Dr. Robert M. Bowman: www.watchman.org/Atheism Watchman Fellowship 4-page Profile on Agnosticism by W. Russell Crawford: www.watchman.org/Agnostic Watchman Fellowship 4-page Profile on Naturalism by Daniel Ray: www.watchman.org/Naturalism Watchman Fellowship 4-page Profile on Deconstruction by Daniel Ray: www.watchman.org/Deconstruction Additional ResourcesFREE: We are also offering a subscription to our 4-page bimonthly Profiles here: www.watchman.org/Free.PROFILE NOTEBOOK: Order the complete collection of Watchman Fellowship Profiles (over 600 pages -- from Astrology to Zen Buddhism) in either printed or PDF formats here: www.watchman.org/notebook. SUPPORT: Help us create more content like this. Make a tax-deductible donation here: www.watchman.org/give.Apologetics Profile is a ministry of Watchman Fellowship For more information, visit www.watchman.org © Watchman Fellowship, Inc.

A Conversation on Discipleship, Bible Study, and Starting Out in Ministry with Kristie AnyabwileDuring this episode, we are learning how to trust God to increase the little we commit to Him for His glory.1 PETER 3:15 ESVbut in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,MEET KRISTIEKRISTIE ANYABWILE is the author of Delighting in God's Law: Old Testament Commands and Why They Matter Today, Literarily: How Understanding Bible Genres Transforms Bible Study, and editor of His Testimonies, My Heritage: Women of Color on the Word of God. She is a Bible teacher at Anacostia River Church, and serves organizations that equip women to study and teach the Bible, such as The Charles Simeon Trust and Bible Equipping. Kristie is also a founding member of The Pelican Project, a women's theology organization. Her work can be found at The Front Porch, Christianity Today, She Reads Truth, Risen Motherhood, The Gospel Coalition, and Revive Our Hearts. She is a pastor's wife and has been married over 30 years. She and Thabiti have 3 children and live in Washington, DC.RESOURCESPurchase Delighting in God's LawConnect with Kristie on IGJoin Liv's Email FamilyConnect with Me on IGGrab Your Copy of Selah hereSELAH: A STUDY OF 1 AND 2 SAMUELPurchase your copy of Selah: A Study of 1 and 2 Samuel

Are we equipped to point others to Christ? Join Dawn and Steve in the Morning for a devotional from Blackaby Ministries International about providing access to God for anyone around us who seeks Him. In addition, Moody author Kristie Anyabwile shares 5 key Old Testament passages and her book Delighting in God's Law. She is a Bible teacher at Anacostia River Church, and serves organizations that equip women to study and teach the Bible, such as The Charles Simeon Trust and Bible Equipping. Kristie is also a founding member of The Pelican Project, a women’s theology organization. Her work can be found at The Front Porch, Christianity Today, She Reads Truth, Risen Motherhood, The Gospel Coalition, and Revive Our Hearts. She is a pastor’s wife and has been married over 30 years. She and Thabiti have 3 children and live in Washington, DC.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Happy Wednesday! Today Lindsey Medenwaldt is joining the podcast! This is the eleventh episode in a series dedicated to special co-host, Noelle. In this episode, host Janell Wood and guest Lindsey Medenwaldt discuss how to bridge the divide between Christians and non-Christians and have meaningful conversations. They explore the importance of building relationships, being good listeners, and sharing the gospel with love and respect. Lindsey shares insights from her book, 'Bridge Building Apologetics,' and emphasizes the need for Christians to be prepared to give a defense for their faith. They also address the question of why Christians make it their job to tell others about Jesus and the importance of knowing God through Scripture and prayer. Lindsey explains why prayer is a foundational aspect of bridge building apologetics. Prayer helps calm the mind, recall information, and seek guidance in conversations. She emphasizes the importance of active prayer life and being in constant conversation with God. Towards the end of the episode, Janell introduces the next co-host (hi Lizzy!) who will be joining the podcast for conversations soon.  We hope you enjoy this week's episode!   About Lindsey Medenwaldt Lindsey Medenwaldt is the Director of Ministry Operations at Mama Bear Apologetics, and she's our resident worldview and world religion specialist. She has a master's degree in apologetics and ethics from Denver Seminary, as well as a master's in public administration and a law degree. She wrote Bridge-Building Apologetics, which will be released in May 2024 (Harvest House). She's an editor and author for the Christian Research Journal, an editor for Women in Apologetics, and a member of the Pelican Project. She has also contributed to various writing projects, including a chapter about the Jehovah's Witnesses to the Popular Handbook of World Religions (Harvest House 2021). Lindsey and her husband, Jay (who is also an apologist), have been married for 16 years. They live with their daughters in Iowa. In her spare time, Lindsey loves watching British reality television, especially The Great British Baking Show, and she's an avid reader (Jay and Lindsey have an at-home library of more than 2,500 books!). -- -- -- -- -- We would love to thank our Patrons for all their amazing support! To learn more about supporting Finding Something REAL via Patreon, click here! If you are interested in supporting the Finding Something REAL fundraising campaign, you can head to the webpage and click on the orange donate button. To learn more about Faithful Counseling and if it is a good fit for you, you can click here! If you would like to receive Janell's 7 Deep Faith Questions resource click here! Visit the Finding Something REAL Youtube channel! -- -- -- -- -- Links: Noelle's First episode Noelle & Drew Noelle & Xandra Noelle & Doug Noelle & J, Warner Wallace Noelle & Jeannine Hanger Noelle & Abdu Murray   Why Christianity? with Lindsey Medenwaldt REPLAY: Why Christianity? with Lindsey Medenwaldt Do Christians and LDS Believe The Same Thing? REPLAY: Do Christians and LDS Believe The Same Thing?   Is the Enneagram Scientific Progress or Regress? Jay Medenwaldt   Mama Bear Apologetics    

Peru permits euthanasia, Florida frets about national security, and Kristi Noem is in the doghouse. This week on The Bulletin, Mike Cosper and producer Clarissa Moll discuss Florida's new laws restricting Chinese citizens from real estate transactions and employment at state universities. Conversation turns next to Peru's first exemption for medically assisted suicide and the growth of the global right to die movement. Finally, we talk about dogs -- our own and Governor Kristi Noem's, to be exact. Can the vice presidential hopeful remain a viable candidate after the release of her new book No Going Back? Special guests Skot Welch and Karen Swallow Prior join the discussion. Today's Guests: Skot Welch is the principal/founder of Global Bridgebuilders, a firm focusing on organizational development, cultural transformation and inclusion. Prior to the launch of Global Bridgebuilders, Skot served as Vice President of Business Development and Benchmarking Services for DiversityInc magazine in New Jersey, where he worked with many of the Fortune 500's biggest global brands across a broad range of industries. Skot's most recent book is Unfractured: A Christ-Centered Action Plan for Cultural Change. Karen Swallow Prior, Ph.D., is the author of The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis and On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books, among other titles. Her writing has appeared at Christianity Today, the New York Times, The Atlantic, the Washington Post, First Things, and various other places. In addition, Dr. Prior is a columnist for Religion News Service, a contributing editor for Comment, a founding member of The Pelican Project, and a senior fellow at the Trinity Forum.  Resources Referenced: When Buying a Home Is Treated as a National Security Threat - The New York Times The Art of Dying: Living Fully into the Life to Come Who Will Comfort Me? The Total Care of Cicely Saunders | Acton Institute “The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Producer: Clarissa Moll and Matt Stevens Associate Producer: McKenzie Hill and Raed Gilliam Editing and Mix: TJ Hester Music: Dan Phelps Show Design: Bryan Todd Graphic Design: Amy Jones Social Media: Kate Lucky Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Holiday culture wars and consumerism bring more chaos than joy to the world. But there's hope. The countercultural season of Advent offers a different way to prepare for Christmas. Tish Harrison Warren, former New York Times columnist and author, talks with Amy Julia Becker about:How the practices of Advent disarm the culture warsWays that Advent helps us grieve and hopeWhy waiting to celebrate Christmas mattersPLUS why Tish chose to leave the New York TimesGive a book for Christmas!__Guest Bio:Tish Harrison Warren is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America. She is a former New York Times columnist the author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life (Christianity Today's 2018 Book of the Year) and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep (Christianity Today's 2022 Book of the Year and the 2022 ECPA Christian Book of the Year). Her latest book is Advent: The Season of Hope. She is a founding member of The Pelican Project and a Senior Fellow with the Trinity Forum. She lives with her husband and three children in Austin, Texas.__Connect Online:Visit Tish's website at tishharrisonwarren.comFollow Tish on Instagram: @tishharrisonwarren__On the Podcast:Advent: The Season of HopeMore of Tish's booksTish's final essay at the TimesAmy Julia's books__TRANSCRIPT: amyjuliabecker.com//tish-harrison-warren/__YouTube Channel: video with closed captions__Season 7 of the Love Is Stronger Than Fear podcast connects to themes in my latest book, To Be Made Well, which you can order here! Learn more about my writing and speaking at amyjuliabecker.com.Connect with me: Instagram Facebook Twitter Website Thanks for listening!

About the GuestKaren Swallow Prior, Ph. D., is a reader, writer, and professor. She is the author of The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis (Brazos, 2023); On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books (Brazos 2018); Fierce Convictions: The Extraordinary Life of Hannah More—Poet, Reformer, Abolitionist (Thomas Nelson, 2014); and Booked: Literature in the Soul of Me (T. S. Poetry Press, 2012). She is co-editor of Cultural Engagement: A Crash Course in Contemporary Issues (Zondervan 2019) and has contributed to numerous other books. She has a monthly column for Religion News Service. Her writing has appeared at Christianity Today, New York Times, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, First Things, Vox, Think Christian, The Gospel Coalition, and various other places. She hosted the podcast Jane and Jesus. She is a Contributing Editor for Comment, a founding member of The Pelican Project, a Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum, and a Senior Fellow at the L. Russ Bush Center for Faith and Culture. She and her husband live on a 100-year-old homestead in central Virginia with dogs, chickens, and lots of books.Show NotesAdrienne Freas and Karen Swallow Prior enjoy discussing the idea of culture creation through great literature. Why not think of reading for enjoyment instead of just reading for an assignment? Enjoy more balance while gaining an enriching approach to literature. Some Questions Include: How is the book, On Reading Well helpful for parents and teachers? What do you believe is helpful in your books and what do you hope teachers and parents will take away ?  What is your view concerning critical theory in contrast with the idea of reading well?  What are the implications for how we teach students? Resources and books mentioned:On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great BooksThe Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in CrisisMoby DickThe BibleTo Kill A MockingbirdUncle Tom's CabinJane EyreGerard Manly Hopkins poetryEast of Eden________________________________________________________Let us help you discover what a beautiful education should look like.  Subscribe to this Podcast on your favorite podcast app! Meet our Team, Explore our Resources and Take advantage of our Services! This podcast is produced by Beautiful Teaching, LLC.Support this podcast: ★ Support this podcast ★ _________________________________________________________Credits:Sound Engineer: Andrew HelselLogo Art: Anastasiya CFMusic: Vivaldi's Concerto for 2 Violins in B flat major, RV529 : Lana Trotovsek, violin Sreten Krstic, violin with Chamber Orchestra of Slovenian Philharmonic © 2023 Beautiful Teaching LLC. All Rights Reserved

Joining us are Crystal & Kelly, co-founders of The Pelican Project Ministry, a family ministry based near Columbus, GA, dedicated to reawakening a culture of life through educational resources for the domestic Church. Find them at https://www.pelicanprojectministry.org/ Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pelican-project/id1648133001

Join us this week as we discuss the benefits of creating a space to pray in our homes and what it has to do with reawakening a culture of life. For more about The Pelican Project and our mission to reawaken a culture of life, visit www.PelicanProjectMinistry.org --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

In this episode Richard has a conversation with Karen Swallow Prior, Ph.D. She is a reader, writer and professor. She talks with Richard about her latest book, The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis. Another one of her books mentioned on the podcast is On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books. She has authored and contributed to numerous other books. She has a monthly column for Religion News Service. Her writing has appeared at Christianity Today, New York Times, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, First Things, Vox, Think Christian, The Gospel Coalition, and various other places. She hosted the podcast Jane and Jesus. She is a Contributing Editor for Comment, a founding member of The Pelican Project, a Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum, and a Senior Fellow at the L. Russ Bush Center for Faith and Culture. She and her husband live on a 100-year-old homestead in central Virginia with dogs, chickens, and lots of books. Connect with Karen on her website: www.karenswallowprior.com DONATE: If you have enjoyed this podcast and want to support what we do, click here. RESOURCES: Find out more about our upcoming Spiritual Leadership Coaching Workshops here. Metaphors We Live By by George Lakoff, Mark Johnson. Find it here. CONNECT: Follow Richard on Twitter. Follow Richard on Facebook. Read Richard's latest blog posts at www.richardblackaby.com.

Welcome friends! Pull up a chair and join us for the Season 2 premiere of The Pelican Project Podcast! We have a very special guest to help us start the season off right, please welcome Fr. John Paul Mary of the Franciscan Missionaries of the Eternal Word. Today, Fr. John Paul helps us tackle the not so easy subject of redemptive suffering and the power that suffering can have in our lives. Don't forget to Pray, Grow, and Serve with us this week using our weekly devotional! To learn more about The Pelican Project and our mission to Reawaken a Culture of Life visit us at www.PelicanProjectMinistry.org! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

Welcome to episode ninety-six of New Creation Conversations. I'm joined this week by writer, professor, and expert on theology and literature, Dr. Karen Swallow Prior. Karen did her PhD at the State University of New York at Buffalo with a specialization in eighteenth century British literature. Karen taught in seminaries for a number of years, and she is a contributing editor for Comment, a founding member of The Pelican Project, a Senior Fellow at Trinity Forum, a Senior Fellow at the International Alliance for Christian Education, a Senior Fellow at the L. Russ Bush Center for Faith and Culture and is a former member of the Faith Advisory Council of the Humane Society of the United States. She and her husband live on a 100-year-old homestead in central Virginia with dogs, chickens, and lots of books.Karen has written and contributed to several books. We discuss her most recent work, The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis (Brazos Press). In the book she examines evangelical history – both good and bad. By analyzing the literature, art, and popular cultural that has surrounded evangelicalism, she unpacks some of the movement's most deeply held concepts, ideas, values, and practices to consider what is Christian rather than merely cultural. The result is a clearer path forward for evangelicals amid their current identity crisis – and insight for others who want a deeper understanding of what was best about the evangelical movement, and what possibilities might still be in its future. As many of you know, I am a fan of theology and literature, and I love the way Karen blends those too with important cultural and philosophical analysis. It is a very thoughtful and helpful book. And a very fun conversation. 

Karen Swallow Prior and I have a fantastic conversation around evangelical culture and true Christian faith. We dig into the history of Evangelical faith, what myths, stories, and narratives have contributed to the underlying assumptions we have on how the world works, and we talk through how to be faithful to Jesus in the midst of unexamined culture. Join us as we start to unveil the underlying narratives that we follow unaware.Karen Swallow Prior, Ph. D., is a reader, writer, and professor. She is the author of The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis (Brazos, 2023); On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books (Brazos 2018); Fierce Convictions: The Extraordinary Life of Hannah More—Poet, Reformer, Abolitionist (Thomas Nelson, 2014); and Booked: Literature in the Soul of Me (T. S. Poetry Press, 2012). She is co-editor of Cultural Engagement: A Crash Course in Contemporary Issues (Zondervan 2019) and has contributed to numerous other books. She has a monthly column for Religion News Service. Her writing has appeared at Christianity Today, New York Times, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, First Things, Vox, Think Christian, The Gospel Coalition, and various other places. She hosted the podcast Jane and Jesus. She is a Contributing Editor for Comment, a founding member of The Pelican Project, a Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum, and a Senior Fellow at the L. Russ Bush Center for Faith and Culture. She and her husband live on a 100-year-old homestead in central Virginia with dogs, chickens, and lots of books.Karen's Book:The Evangelical ImaginationKaren's Substack:The PrioryKaren's Website:Karen Swallow PriorKaren's Recommendation:The Brothers KConnect with Joshua: jjohnson@allnations.usGo to www.shiftingculturepodcast.com to interact and donate. Every donation helps to produce more podcasts for you to enjoy.Follow on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, or Threads at www.facebook.com/shiftingculturepodcasthttps://www.instagram.com/shiftingculturepodcast/https://twitter.com/shiftingcultur2https://www.threads.net/@shiftingculturepodcastConsider Giving to the podcast and to the ministry that my wife and I do around the world. Just click on the support the show link below.Support the show

Guest Bios Show Transcript How is it that evangelicals, who have long extolled the virtues of the First and Second Great Awakenings, now think being “awakened” or “woke” is a bad thing? And how did we evolve from valuing sanctification—to reducing faith into a self-help project? In this podcast, author and longtime professor Karen Swallow Prior joins Julie to discuss the current crisis in the church, which isn't just about Trump or celebrity pastor scandals. As Karen explains, evangelicalism suffers from a crisis of imagination.  Somehow, over the past few decades, the pool of images, stories, and metaphors that form our imagination has become distorted and diseased. And the result has been catastrophic. We no longer think or imagine in biblical ways. For example, instead of thinking of the kingdom of heaven as something that advances as we love, serve, and sacrifice for our fellow man, we've adopted an empire mentality. In this system, one wins by dominating his fellow man and putting the right people in office. It's a far cry from the words of Jesus: The last will be first. To get out of this crisis, we need to reform our imagination—radically. But to do that, we first need to understand how we got here, Karen explains. And only then, can we chart a way forward. Guests Karen Swallow Prior Karen Swallow Prior (PhD, SUNY Buffalo) is a reader, writer, and longtime professor. She is the author of several best-selling books including On Reading Well, Booked: Literature in the Soul of Me and Fierce Convictions: The Extraordinary Life of Hannah More—Poet, Reformer, Abolitionist. Prior has written for Christianity Today, the Atlantic, the Washington Post, First Things, Vox, and Religion News Service. Show Transcript SPEAKERS KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR, JULIE ROYS JULIE ROYS  00:04 How is it that evangelicals who have long extolled the virtues of the first and second great awakenings now think being awakened or woke is a bad thing? And why have testimonies degenerated into a contest over who has the most dramatic story? And how do we evolve from valuing sanctification to reducing faith into a self-help project? Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. I'm Julie Roys, and today I'm going to be talking about the evangelical imagination with Karen Swallow Prior. Karen has just written a book by that name. And as she explains in her book, our current crisis isn't just about Trump or celebrity pastor scandals. Evangelicalism is suffering from a crisis of the imagination. Somehow over the past few decades, the pool of images, stories and metaphors, the form our imagination has become distorted and diseased. And the result has been catastrophic. We no longer think or imagine in biblical ways. For example, instead of thinking about the kingdom of heaven as something that advances as we love and serve and sacrifice for our fellow man, we've adopted an empire mentality where we win by dominating our fellow man, by putting the right people in office, by winning an actual culture war, by being first not last. And so, if we want to navigate out of this crisis, we need to reform our imagination. But to do that, we need to understand our history and how we got here. And Karen has done a masterful job of researching and explaining that development. So, I'm very much looking forward to our discussion today. But before we dive in, I'd like to thank the sponsors of this podcast, Judson University, and Marquardt of Barrington. If you're looking for a top ranked Christian University, providing a caring community and an excellent college experience, Judson University is for you. Judson is located on 90 acres just 40 miles west of Chicago in Elgin, Illinois. The school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities, and strong financial aid. Plus, you can take classes online as well as in person. Judson University is shaping lives that shaped the world. For more information, just go to JUDSONU.EDU. Also, if you're looking for a quality new or used car, I highly recommend my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity, and transparency. That's because the owners there Dan and Kurt Marquardt, are men of integrity. To check them out, just go to BUYACAR123.COM. Well, joining me now is Karen Swallow Prior, a former longtime English professor at Liberty University, and until quite recently, she was a research professor of English Christianity and culture at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. Now she's a full-time writer and the author of several fantastic books including her latest, The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis. Karen also writes a monthly column for Religion News Service, is a contributing editor for Comment, a founding member of the Pelican Project and a senior fellow at the L. Russ Bush Center for Faith and Culture. And last but not least, she and her husband Roy live on a 100-year-old homestead in central Virginia, with two dogs, Eva the Diva, and Ruby. If you follow her , and I'm just thrilled to have you. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  03:45 And so great to be talking with you, Julie, thank you. JULIE ROYS  03:48 I am going to start this podcast with a little bit of a confession. Normally just because of my schedule, when I come to do a podcast and I come to read the book, it's often the day or two before the actual podcast and I'm rushing through this book to get through it. And true to form, I did that with your book. Now that I've read it, I am really dying to go back and to read it again. And to sit down I'm even thinking, I got some friends like we should do a book club and do this book because every chapter is so so rich. And so, I'm just thanking you for writing this book and for the richness in it. And you bring so much of yourself into it. It's just quintessential Karen Swallow Prior because of all of the literary illusions that you have and just fantastically done. So, thank you. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  04:42 Thank you. I have had a few interviewers either confess or read schedule. I think a lot of Christian books are fast reads. And so, I think a lot of people picked it up and just thought they could breeze through it, and I don't maybe if I were a better writer, I would write in a breezier style,, but you're not the only one to say it's you know, it's rich and taken time and a lot of thought. JULIE ROYS  05:05 absolutely true. And with most books, when I go through them in two or three hours, I feel like I'm done. Your book I didn't get through in two or three hours, it took me much more than that. But at the same time, I was just like, Man, this is important stuff that we need to really meditate on. And we really need to think about. And this idea of writing about the imagination. I love that because I think the imagination is something that so often, especially in evangelicalism, right, because we're so reason focus, we think of the imagination as something that's fiction, something that's not real. And we don't realize the extent to which the imagination and the stories, this pool of ideas and thought, how that really impacts the way we act, the way that we think, the way we perceive the future, all of that. And you so beautifully wove that into this book. I remember from when I was homeschooling my kids, we used to talk about the imagination as a garden, and how the weeds can take over. And I think in essence, that's a lot of what you're saying in this book, there's a lot of weeds that have gotten into our imagination, and yet, we're not even cognizant of them. So first, let me just ask you, why did you decide to write this book at this time? KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  06:26 For me, it takes a long time to write a book. And maybe that's why it takes so long to read. So, I started imagining this book, probably 2018 or 2019. But it really arose or teaching Victorian literature, and my college students are primarily evangelical, grew up in evangelical subculture, and a lot of what we would  read in the Victorian age. Now, the Victorian age is the century after the rise of evangelicalism, but it sort of embodies the great influence of evangelicalism. And so, we would read this literature that talked about purity culture, and the sexual double standard that you know, the one standard for women, and another one much lower for men, family values, the separate spheres for men and women, all of those things in this wonderful literature that I love. And my students would often say, wait a minute, this sounds like the idea I was raised with, or this sounds like what I was taught, you know, in the 20th century. So, we would have these discussions, these conversations. Well, what is a truly biblical view of purity of family of men and women, and what's really just Victorian? We started separating those two threads in the classroom with my students who had largely been brought up in evangelical subculture was the beginning of the book. And, you know, so it's been a few years where I've been able to think about this, find other examples. And of course, a lot has been going on in the culture outside the classroom that helped me to see this as not just an intellectual exercise in the classroom, but really part of the crisis that our movement is facing right now. JULIE ROYS  08:05 Isn't that interesting that the Victorian era would be like our current era? I don't think most people would even fathom that, that's true. And even so many of the hip and, you know, cutting edge ministries we have today, would not recognize how their roots are actually in some of these centuries, way before them, and we're going to delve into that. But before we do, since we're talking about the evangelical imagination, let's start with a definition of evangelicalism because this is something that has morphed with time and means different things to different people. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  08:43 Absolutely. And of course, even the term has many different meanings and understandings, as it might have had over the years, it's really been kind of hijacked and catapulted into headlines and political polls and surveys. And so, it's just become even more confused and contested. And so, I realized that I am evangelical, so I know this, the problem surrounding the term and in many people's desire to reject it or replace it or denounce it. So I drew on a number of definitions that are given by scholars and the primary one that I think everyone either agrees with or differs with a little bit is that of the church historian David Bebbington as the Bebbington quadrilateral, and Bebbington basically looks at the evangelical movement from the 18th century on and says that, regardless of the denomination or the country, or the century, evangelicals are defined by their emphasis on the conversion experience, the centrality of the Bible or their lives as God's authoritative word, the centrality of Christ's crucifixion, and His sacrifice for our sins. And also, a lot of people don't maybe realize this but an activist spirit like evangelicals have always been activists of some kind; missions in the 19th century, social justice in the 21st, you know. I mean, across the board left or right evangelicals are defined by all four of these things, but including they all come together, activists spirit. JULIE ROYS  10:16 And that activism has its outworking very different in each age, which you highlight in a number of your chapters. But each one of your chapters sort of focuses on a word or a concept that captures an aspect of the evangelical imagination. And then you talk about this development of the concept about what's good and true about the concept within evangelicalism, but also what may be a perversion and that's what I think is so eye opening. Let's start with just this concept of awakening, your second chapter, because your first chapter sort of outlines what the imagination is, which I think was awesome. But explain how awakening and this idea of being awakened, is central to evangelicalism throughout the history and development of the movement. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  11:10 My expertise is in British Literature, the 18th and 19th century. So, I'll say that's the beginning, but most people are more familiar with American history and religious history, even if we're not experts. And we all know about the Great Awakenings, right? I mean, the Evangelical revival in America in the 18th century, it was called the Great Awakening, and then there are ones after that. So right away, we know that this whole idea of awakening is central to the evangelical movement. It also happens to be a very powerful and prevalent symbol in literature, throughout all time, but also during this period. So that is an area where I was able to make a connection, like why awakening and how many ways is that concept, that idea that symbols show up, and we have the Great Awakening in America. But the other thing that really defines America is the American Dream, which of course, you know, sleeping, dreaming, waking, these are all connected. And so that's one of the points that I make in this chapter and a couple places in the book is how the American Dream, which was so much part of America's founding has been part not just of American history, but also of evangelical history, just because of the way our nation was founded. And so, people talk about whether or not you know, there's Christian nation and what that means or doesn't mean. Even the whole concept of the American dream, and that sort of consumerist materialists prosperity idea is interwoven not only with American history, but evangelical history. JULIE ROYS  12:49 And of course, the American Dream is in the New Testament. Not. Not close. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  12:57 But Make America Great is there. JULIE ROYS  12:59 Oh, yeah, exactly. And this is the issue that you're getting at this sort of sifting between, you know, what is real and true to Christianity. Obviously, the idea of being awakened spiritually, I mean, evangelicalism grew out of what had become a very dry and dead and wrote Christian church culture, and yet people awakening some of them pastors awakening, which is beautiful, to the truth of a relationship with Jesus who is the truth. Ironically, I thought that the word woke, right. Something that's based on being awakened, has now become within a lot of evangelical circles, a pejorative term, and yet, again, it's our roots. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  13:47 It's our it's our roots. Right? And, and it is, you know, I talked about this in the book, and there's so many more things I could have said, but I wanted to trace that history. That's, you know, the way that the African American community use the word woke early in the 20th century, is really similar to the way that we were using it back in the 18th century. Now woke is centered in Yes, social justice and being awakened to oppression. But that's what the Great Awakening is too, is being awakened to the spiritual oppression that we undergo when we do not have that relationship in Jesus Christ, or we are denying the work of the Holy Spirit. And so, there's a direct connection there. And, again, going back to what I said about how evangelicalism has always been defined by an activist spirit. So this whole idea of being woke and having your conscience gripped by things that are wrong in our culture, whether systemically or individually, or there is sin matters or social matters. Like that is part of our heritage and to use that variation of the word woke as an insult or a pejorative or just an outright dismissal for everything that you disagree with, does violence not only to the language but does violence to our heritage as evangelicals and just violence to the people who are using that term to express this urgent and important felt need. JULIE ROYS  15:12 So, to the person who's trying to keep what is good, throw out what is bad when it comes to this most central concept of being awakened spiritually, what would you say? KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  15:23 I would say that, you know, this is one reason why I'm still an evangelical is because evangelicalism arose in the modern age. And an important feature of the modern age is the individual [ ] the individual soul that need for individual salvation and conversion. And it's all centered on the conscience. Now, I also happen to be not just evangelical Baptist. And for us, soul autonomy is really important, like the idea that we are each responsible and accountable as individuals, our own individual souls before God. And so that idea of the individual conscience is central to the evangelical movement. And so being awakened, not only spiritually, but also awakened just to our relationship in this world with one another and how we treat one another. It's just to me, it's central to what it means to be an evangelical. JULIE ROYS  16:26 So, A related term, which you already mentioned, is conversion. I think if you've grown up in evangelicalism, you've heard of this idea of easy believe ism. I remember that my mother moved from the north to the south, and she did go to a Baptist church in the south. They had a horrible tragedy where a teenage boy shot his family, killed all of them. And then he turned the gun on himself. And I remember my mother was so shocked that the pastor got up and said, Well, we know that the shooter was a Christian, because he came forward and gave his life to Christ. You know, when he was I forget what age and she was just appalled by this, that that was given as something to sooth the community, supposedly. I mean, she felt like how can we know this man that just went on a murderous rampage? Of course, we don't know, if he had mental illness, whatever, but  that kind of statement, which, again, it takes that conversion experience into almost 100% iron clad, you're going to heaven, I think there's been some perversion of what a conversion really means. And you talk about the history and development of this term, if you would, give us a little bit of the background and how this has evolved over time. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  17:45 You know, the Evangelical revival in England arose at a time when, you know, a couple of centuries after the Reformation took place, and there was an established church in England, a state church, a government Church, which meant that if you were born as a citizen in England, that meant that you were a Christian, officially. So, it just bred of nominal Christianity, but this is what the Evangelical revival is like the Wesley's when they were young men, John and Charles Wesley who helped begin this who were Anglicans, studying for the ministry. They felt something was lacking, and then had that famous warming of the heart experience, and which we would call it being born again, or individual conversion. And so, this revival in England and this awakening in America centered on this idea that you're not a Christian just because you are born into a Christian family or confirmed or baptized as an infant in a Christian church, but you must be born again, you must have an individual salvation experience. And, again, I'm evangelical, I believe that. But as you pointed out, just because someone goes forward, or just because someone fills out a card or raises their hand, that in itself does not mean that they were converted. And that is why the Bible does say, not all who say Lord, Lord will be saved. And that is also why the Bible gives us evidence, such as fruit of the Spirit, to show that someone that exhibits godliness and Christ likeness and doesn't mean that the converted don't sin. Would that it were so but it's not. But again, this good, important biblical idea becomes distorted when all of the emphasis is on going forward, getting the hands raised, filling out the cards, counting the number of people who've made decisions for Christ, and then letting them off and go without any follow up or discipleship, or kinds of things that can't be measured as easily, which are actually so much more important. JULIE ROYS  19:47 But it sure makes a good newsletter. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  19:49 Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it does. And that's the sad part about it. It often becomes a fundraising gimmick. How many people have come forward or whatever. And sometimes with good intentions, but I think it has been perverted. You talk about an 18th century novel in this chapter, which I had never heard about called Pamela. Talk about that book and how it sort of typifies the issue. Yeah. Non one ever reads or talks about Pamela unless they take an odd course, from me or some other 18th century novel professor. It's considered widely is like the first English novel. It's so rooted in all of evangelical history during this time, because it's a story of, you know, a young servant girl whose harasser is attempting to seduce her and harass her and she's holding on to her virtue. He actually tries to sexually assault her twice. If anyone wants to read it, spoiler alert. And the novel shows that through her good behavior, she tames him and he's inverted. You know, that's obviously not a good idea to follow that model. And she marries him. Yes, I think we still have those dynamics. But the reason I include that novel is because the story doesn't end when they get married. The story ends much later, when this horrible husband, this former Reagan player has had some kind of conversion experience and grows and matures. But the novel was widely criticized and mocked and satirize, because it was showing this like cheap grace kind of dynamic that we just talked about, and that this guy can just be converted, and everything  is instantly better. And so, it's an interesting novel from a literary perspective. But it's also interesting because it parallels a lot of what evangelicals were thinking and teaching and modeling, but it shows it in such an access that we should stop and question and say many this is not how to evangelize and convert people. JULIE ROYS  21:53 A related concept is the idea of testimony and giving your testimony. And again, I'm thinking about my childhood. So, I'm one of those that went forward when I was six years old, at a camp meeting. don't really remember what was preached. But I remember like when he said, Do you want to come forward and accept Jesus? I was like, Oh, I've heard about Jesus my whole life. Of course, I do. You know. And so, I did go forward. I actually remember it very vividly. Because for the next two weeks, everybody I met, my parents would be like, oh tell them your testimony. But it was good for me because it solidified in me that experience and the importance of it. A lot of people don't have necessarily that one time testimony. I know my sister, one of the most beautiful Christians I know on the planet, she can't point to a time, and I think in your book you talk about you can kind of point to a time period, right? But not really a time. So, this can be a good thing, the testimony. You talked about testimony envy, which I thought was a great phrase. How can this be twisted, and how has it been twisted within evangelicalism? KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  23:03 So, testimony and story  are just a central aspect of what it means to be human and also to what it means to be a Christian. We are to be prepared to give a defense to give our testimonies to tell our story. And yet, we also have to examine sort of the flip side, and as you said,  if we don't remember that particular time and place and we can't tell that story because we, like in my case, and probably your sisters, were so young. But even John Bunyan, as I show in the book, has a really long Spiritual Autobiography. And you keep wondering, okay is this the moment is this the moment he keeps having these spiritual epiphanies or awakenings. And Jonathan Edwards himself says, sometimes people don't know and that's okay. I'm paraphrasing him, obviously. So, it's wonderful to have a testimony. But that testimony envy that I talked about, and you mentioned, can lead people to feeling as though if they don't have a testimony, something is wrong. Or we'd come to learn that someone who shared a testimony, embellished it. And so again, as I show throughout this whole book with all of these beautiful, wonderful concepts and ideas that are rooted in the Bible, but also become part of our imagination, our social imaginary, if they get distorted or twisted, then we take something that is good and true, and turn it into something that is not that; our salvation testimony is the most important one, but also our sanctification, our growth, the way God works, and as well as all of those are testimonies. JULIE ROYS  24:36 I couldn't help but think of Michael Warnke when I was reading that chapter. If you remember, he was in the 80s had this very dramatic testimony of being converted from being a Satanist to Christ, and he would tell the stories became an evangelist. Well, it turned out it was all bunk. He had concocted the whole thing; he had made it up. And the horrible thing is It just takes one fraud, for about 100 real testimonies and the truth for a lot of people, the Christian life is day by day living in the ordinary. And these days, I'm much more impressed by the person who's not so on fire outwardly, but just is living that quiet life of obedience to Christ, not bringing attention to himself or herself, and just following the Lord. And I think we forget how ordinary even Jesus was right? You know, some of them have dramatics; Saul has a dramatic testimony. But a lot of them it was just, follow me., and they did. The evangelical, or the Protestant work ethic, which is another concept that you talked about. And that's something that was drilled into me, in fact, there wouldn't be a Roy Report if I didn't have a Protestant work ethic. Yep. Before reading your book, I don't think I'd ever really thought about how this work ethic developed out of sort of an age of improvement, and how it even might be contributing to our self-help movement today. Would you explain how these things are related? KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  26:09 Yeah, that was a fun chapter, because I too, am a product of the Protestant work ethic, and it's made me who I am today. And so that is good. But there's this sort of, off branch of that work ethic, which is improvement, even the idea of a self-improvement or an improvement to your life was something that people for thousands of years, didn't imagine. Because for thousands of years, people's lives, generation after generation after generation, looks the same. You were trying to survive trying to herd your sheep and raise your children, and nothing much changed. So, improvement itself is a very modern idea. I'm for improvement too, but it goes too far when we improve just for improvement sake, or when it breeds lack of contentment, or we often don't look at what we lose or sacrifice by trying to make an improvement. If we go to the supermarket, we see these packages of food and products that say new and improved. And when you read the fine print, it's really just the labels changed or something. It's not even necessarily anything substantial that is improved. But we love improvements so much that the marketing and the research that goes into it shows us that it works to have that little label on it, even if we don't know what the improvement was. And of course, that carries over into modern evangelicalism when we are formed and shaped and motivated by self-improvement and influencers. And these aren't all bad. But we're the Christian, we are supposed to undergo growth and sanctification, which is really not quite the same thing as improvement. JULIE ROYS  27:50 The focus of it is so different. I mean, it almost becomes like a Babel thing, like I've built this, I've done this, instead of, you know, sanctification, the point of it is to become like Christ. Why? So that we can glorify Him. Because the chief end of man is to glorify God, and we miss that. We think the chief end of man, actually, we think the chief end of religion is to make our life better, so we can live our best life now. I mean, we've just so fundamentally perverted it. And this is why I think, when I hear so many people deconstructing, and I think we all should, I don't know if I like that word. You want to call it sifting, whatever. But we should be looking at what is it that we have imbibed? And what is it that we're really rejecting? I'm very grateful that for me, the stories, and the ideas that I feel like inform me, a lot of them are centuries old, because they've grown up in our family and in our church. But if you came to the Lord in this generation, and this is all you know, is this iteration of evangelicalism, I can see why people hate it. I hate a lot of it too, because it has nothing to do with the gospel, just nothing. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  29:01 There are so many layers that need to be peeled back. And so many things that need to be examined under the surface, but we have to look at them, so we know what to throw out and what to keep. And that's what I'm trying to demonstrate with this book. JULIE ROYS  29:15 So, you devote an entire chapter to sentimentalism which I think highlight a major, major tension in evangelicalism. I mean, on one hand, we are products of the Enlightenment, and I think you really explain that in a really good way. We love reason. I think when you look at the Sunday service in most churches, you can see that –  what's the highlight? It's the sermon, right? It's the word. That can be a good thing. I will say it's one of the things I liked about the years that we spent at an  Anglican Church is that the highlight was actually the table. It was the Eucharist which is a much more experiential though not experiential in the sense of rooted in your subjective experience, but in coming to the table that Christ has called us to do every week. And so, I love that, but again, you've got this reason on one hand, and yet on the other hand, as you describe, we've been influenced by something called the cult of sensibility, which emphasizes more feeling and emotion. And you use the book Sense and Sensibility, which doesn't necessarily mean what we would think it means today so that that has changed over time. But this is kind of a new idea to me. And then how this sensibility has sort of morphed into the sentimentalism that we find so commonly in churches today. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  30:30 Yeah, so Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility is a good touchstone for thinking about this idea, because most people are at least familiar with the title, if not the book. And if you're at all familiar with the book, or even the movie, you know, that like sense represents Eleanor and her rational, reasonable, non-emotional approach to life and Mary Anne represents sensibility, which is that romantic emotional approach. And Austen was actually satirizing just before Austin's lifetime was called the cult of sensibility, which tried to show that moral virtue is demonstrated by how sensitive you are to art and literature and opera and theatre, and not necessarily the real people suffering around you, perhaps, but at least you may respond emotionally with your heart to something that you see. And that is the mark of virtue. And Austin was making fun of them. But there was a short-lived movement. But it did slowly morph into sentimentalism, which is basically emphasizing emotion for the sake of emotion. As you said, we're both Protestants; we've made that clear. We're both maybe privilege word and reason and rationality a little bit more. So, it's not to say that we should ignore or downplay the emotional aspect of our humanity. It's not to say that empathy is a sin or anything like that. Because we are both emotional and rational creatures, and that those things should be in balance. But what sentimentalism does is it just emphasizes the emotional, and more specifically, when I talk about like Christian and evangelical art, it's emphasizing the sort of cheap, easy emotion like the easy way of feeling sad or happy, if you watch like a, you know, Hallmark or Lifetime movie. It just plays on our emotions, or a Budweiser beer commercial with puppies and horses, plays on our emotions, right? Those are cheap, easy ways to draw out our emotions that ignore sort of the hard realities or the sacrifice that good art, or spiritual redemption requires. So we live in a culture that has emphasized sort of the cheap and easy emotional shortcut. Real truth and sacrifice and redemption as well as good art requires sacrifice, and bringing into balance, truth, goodness, and beauty, which is just not the same thing as sentimentality. JULIE ROYS  32:59 I kept thinking of the verses where the Lord says, These people worship Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. I see it in the church today. I mean, people that I report on, and I know so much about the sin that they're involved in, and yet I'll see them in their services, you know, projected on YouTube, acting so spiritual and crying and during the worship, and it's repulsive, I think it has become manipulative, it has become where we leave no room for the moving of the Holy Spirit in our highly programmed services. And where it's excesses of emotion that's in the church. And again, over the centuries, the church has been very concerned about this, and has thought deeply about the place of worship and emotion. And sometimes airing way too far to cutting off emotion side, but at the same time, wanting it to be real. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  33:59 Yeah, I mean, emotions are an essential part of what it means to be human. But if we confuse emotion with worship, I mean, we can worship God, and we want to feel what we are saying and expressing with our worship. But some of us are just more rational, some are more emotional. And the goal as individuals, and as a church is to have them in balance, not go from one extreme to the other. JULIE ROYS  34:21 For time sake, we're gonna have to skip over several chapters of your book, although I will just say, I would really encourage people to get the book. And by the way, if you get the book right now, it's something that we're offering as a premium to all the donors to The Roys Report. So you can get Karen's book, which thanks to some intervention that you did on your part, because this is a hardcover book. It's an expensive book, but you helped us get it at a really reasonable price, so we can offer it to anybody who gives a donation to The Roys Report in this month, we will send you a copy of Karen's book, which again, fantastic book. You just go to JULIEROYS.COM/DONATE. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  35:03 And if I can just throw in one word. It's not only a hardcover book, but this is also something I'm so proud of, because I negotiated it. It includes a number of beautiful color plates of paintings and artwork that I either talk about in the book or that illustrate the things I'm talking about. And so, I think books should be beautiful. And I think this one is. JULIE ROYS  35:24 Oh, it's gorgeous. So, thank you for helping us get that cheaper than we deserve. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  35:31 I'm so glad I was able to do that. JULIE ROYS  35:33 So, the last three chapters, which I think are absolutely crucial, chapter nine, you explore the concept of empire, and how evangelicalism, maybe without meaning to but it is just integral to this idea of British imperialism, which again, the sun never set on the British Empire, right? I mean, talk about the pride involved in that. But would you describe how evangelicalism, even the modern mission movement has become so married to Empire and how we can extricate ourselves from that. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  36:08 If anyone knows anything about me and my work, you know that I love cultural engagement, right? I love to engage all of the culture, art,  literature, think about it as a Christian, applied biblical worldview. And the fact is, even with the negative things that I have to say, especially in this chapter, this is sort of the darkest, heaviest chapter. I think. My whole point is that we are creatures of culture, no matter what Christians we're talking about the ones that the first century, the ones of the 30th century should the Lord tarry. All Christians will be in a culture, they will be influenced by their culture, hopefully they will influence their culture. So, what I'm talking about in this book of, you know, a 300-year slice of very like Western British American evangelicalism and the problems that we have to face, all Christians are going to have to face that entanglement with culture. So that's just how it is. And so, I'm not saying anything in particular, that is different. Where us as modern evangelicals as for Christians than any other place. But Empire happens to be an area in which it is the time and the place and the context in which evangelicalism was great before. The evangelical movement arose as the British Empire was arising. Evangelical influence and power reached its peak when the British Empire was peaking. So, the great work the evangelicals wanted to do as missionaries was inextricably tied to the work that British Empire wanted to do in colonizing and conquering around the globe. And so even if it's just barely coincidence, which it's more than that, there was effort and human intention and agency and mixed motives and all that involved, but even just the mere coincidence of the movement, and the Empire, arising at the same time means that evangelicalism was born by notions of Empire. And so, we might not go out as evangelicals and take lands and oppress people. We might we might not, but we don't have to do that to see the influence of empire in our evangelical culture today whether it's what our friend, Skye Jehani, has coined the evangelical industrial complex, or mega churches or big conferences, or coalition. All those things that I'm part of, too. So, I'm not standing at the outside and pointing. What I'm asking and examining saying, has this imperialist mindset affected us? Well, it has, it's in our DNA. And so that empire exists when we try to dominate our neighbors rather than loving them. JULIE ROYS  38:52 I will say, just to balance a little bit with that there was an article in Christianity Today several years ago that talked about colonialism and the missionaries and found that a lot of missionaries, actually the majority of them, were much more on the side of the Indigenous people and fighting for their rights than they were the colonial powers. So, I think there is some balance to that. But when I read this, the thing that I thought of so much, and this is where I've probably experienced so much change myself, is just the triumphalism within evangelicalism, and sometimes it's just really trite that we just always have the Cinderella story. It's in our brain and in essence, Christianity is a Cinderella story. I mean, Jesus did rise from the dead, we are eventually going to see heaven, but the in between, we forget the cross and the suffering and all of that, and that's a part of what it means to be Christian. And now I think, too, I've become much more aware of how I'm a part of the white dominant culture. And it's just like we're talking about the imagination that the soup that you swim, and you don't even realize it. But now that I'm beginning to realize it, I can see it more and more and more and in the ways that Christianity around the globe, I mean, quite frankly, Western Christianity is shrinking. The global south is growing and growing by leaps and bounds, and we're going to be, we are learning from them. And we need to learn much more and stop thinking that we have the corner on the way to do things when we need to admit that they do. This is not a white man's religion. This is, you know, something that was started by a Jewish dark-skinned man. And so, we need to be aware of that.  Then your next chapter on reformation reminded me of the motto of The Roys Report, which is reporting the truth, restoring the church. It's central to our again imagination as evangelicals to reform to be restored. I mean, that's huge. And yet we have seen so much perversion of the real. And I know there's people listening right now who are so disillusioned because of what they've seen in the church. How do we reform something that has been so fundamentally distorted? KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  41:21 That's a big question. But I think some of the answer is, it's so simple, it's listening to one another, as you said, like listening to the people outside of our circles, who have different stories, different experiences. It's not turning away, You  model that. It's not turning away from the sin that's in front of us, or the sin that's beneath the surface that we sort of sense we would rather not know about. It's paying attention to the red flags, it's being open, honest, supporting those who are courageous enough to come forward, and just opening our eyes. And I feel like for me, that's where I am in my life. And so, this book, in some ways, is sort of my confession, because it's just me demonstrating what I'm going through, because I had a very good for the most part experience within the evangelical world, most of my life, but others . . . . And so, I don't feel like I'm saying anything in here that is new. It's new to me, perhaps, but I can hear other people saying, Yeah, well, I told you so a long time ago, or we've been saying this a long time. And so, I humbly respect that and admit that, and yet, we had this Protestant Reformation 500 years ago, which we've already identified with. And yet part of what that movement said is like, always reform is not just one reformation. And the way that I frame it in the book is that maybe that first big reformation was over doctrine and cleaning up the doctrine and clarifying that in the church, and maybe in the next 500 years is about practice. JULIE ROYS  43:01 For too long, we have focused almost exclusively on orthodoxy, you know, right belief. And there's been so little emphasis on orthopraxy, which is right behavior. And we have people who are preaching on huge platforms with the most pristine doctrine you can imagine and, you know, passing judgment on those who don't have as good a doctrine, and yet their lives. And I'm so glad you said fruit of the Spirit when you were talking about fruit because that's what reflects whether we're filled by the Holy Spirit, not by how many people are listening to our sermons or our podcasts or sitting in the pews. It is about Christ likeness. Well, lastly, let's talk about the Rapture. This has been the topic of so many evangelical books and movies from the Late Great Planet Earth to the Left Behind series. And the rapture, again, is something that's just seared into the evangelical imagination, and yet a literal rapture, which, at least in the tradition I grew up in, was very much assumed. Now, a lot of evangelicals are saying, well, maybe it's not exactly how we had envisioned it. Regardless, our obsession with the rapture, I think sometimes we miss the point. And you talk about that. What do you think about the Rapture now, as you reflect on it? What's it about, and what is God really asking us to think about His Second Coming? KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  44:33 Yeah, I mean, for me, I have some lighthearted fun with this, because what's not fun talking about the Rapture and chick tracks and left behind and although you know, the trauma of that. This topic does illustrate what I'm trying to do throughout the whole book, because I grew up thinking that this interpretation of a physical literal rapture. I didn't know that was an interpretation, right? And I also didn't know it was an interpretation that arose in the 19th century. I just thought it was what all Christians believed. And so, it was a shocking revelation when I learned that not all Christians have this interpretation. And so that's not the only thing that we could say about having interpretations. And so, we need to examine not only our assumption, but examine our interpretive communities, because we interpret in community. And so, we are shaped by the way that our communities read Scripture emphasize scripture, which parts they tend to quote in the sermons and which ones never get preached about. And so, rapture is just, you know, one sort of dramatic example of that. And I say in the book, I haven't studied this on my own, I'm not a theologian in this area, I don't even really care what it means because I was just so tired of it. But I do know that whether the rapture is physical and literal or not, what the word means refers to us being caught up in Christ, right. And so all of the interpretations of that phrase are important, especially the one in which we are caught up with him now. Because we see him and are so filled with the spirit that we reflect Him and nothing else is as important. As Paul said, all this world is dung. We only want Christ. And that's what it means to be caught up in him. And so that's the most important interpretation. And that's kind of the note that I closed the book on is just to say, let's just imagine that. JULIE ROYS  46:32 Let me read that because I think you put it so well, and it really moved me. So, I just want to read this part of your book. The rapture is assuredly this. We who are in Christ will be caught up with him, caught up in him. To be caught up with Christ in Christ is to be filled with a love not only powerful enough to move the sun and the stars, but powerful enough to love that person we would otherwise despise. It is to love the kingdom of God more than the kingdoms of this world. It is to count all human empires as dirt, all our petty platforms and performances, as dung. To be caught up in Christ is to be enraptured by him, to be beholden to him, to be taken by him to be, as 17th century poet John Donne puts it, ravished by him. Not just in the sky, and on some future day, but here, and now. Just imagine it. I love that. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  47:29 Thank you. I worked hard on that ending. JULIE ROYS  47:32 I'm sure you did. And if that captured our imagination, as Christians as evangelicals, if we were more caught up in Jesus, and in this picture of oneness with him, instead of in the political empires that we think we have to gain or in the huge mega churches we think we have to build. If it really was about Jesus, again, what a huge difference that would make. And if anything, I hope people take away from your book, it is that; that this needs to be about Jesus and not about us and our imaginations need to be filled with what's good and true and beautiful. And that will change the world. So, thank you. KAREN SWALLOW PRIOR  48:17 Thanks, Julie. JULIE ROYS  48:19 Well, again, thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to recording the truth and restoring the church. I'm Julie Roys. And as I mentioned earlier, if you'd like a copy of Karen's book, The Evangelical Imagination, we're giving them as a thank you to anyone who gives a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month. 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Make a one-time or recurring donation on our ⁠⁠⁠Donor Box profile here⁠⁠⁠. Join us in the mission of introducing Reformed Theology across the world! Interested in further study of the Bible? Join us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Logos Bible Software⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Are you interested in a rigorous and Reformed seminary education? Call Westminster Seminary California at 888-480-8474 or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.wscal.edu⁠⁠⁠⁠! Please help support the show on our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon Page⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!   WELCOME TO BOOK CLUB! Karen Swallow Prior (PhD, SUNY Buffalo) is the award-winning author of On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books. She is a frequent speaker, a monthly columnist at Religion News Service, and has written for Christianity Today, The Atlantic, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and Vox. She is a contributing editor for Comment, a founding member of the Pelican Project, a senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, and a senior fellow at the International Alliance for Christian Education. Visit Karen Swallow Prior's personal website here. We want to thank ⁠⁠⁠Brazos Press⁠ for their help in setting up this interview and providing us with the necessary materials for this interview with Dr. Prior!   Purchase the book(s) here: The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images, and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis   Have Feedback or Questions? Email us at: guiltgracepod@gmail.com Find us on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@guiltgracepod⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠@guiltgracepod⁠⁠⁠ Find us on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠Guilt Grace Gratitude Podcast⁠⁠⁠ Please rate and subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you use! Looking for a Reformed Church? ⁠⁠⁠North American Presbyterian & Reformed Churches --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/gggpodcast/support

Purity Culture graduates left the movement with our feet stuck to chewed up gum, our fingers locked into purity rings, and our hearts (supposedly) irreparably broken. But these were images and metaphors given to us by an evangelicalism broken by its own damaged stories, images, and metaphors. This episode gets into what went wrong, and how we can start to make it right.  Join us in Patreon to hear about deconstruction in evangelical history. Join today and get a ticket to our monthly Zoom call happening on July 27 (9pm EST) and 28 (11am AEDT). It's $3/month USD, and you get romcom recaps, purity culture news & views, and more! The Evangelical Imagination: How Stories, Images and Metaphors Created a Culture in Crisis16: Read Better Books (with Karen Swallow Prior) Karen Swallow Prior (PhD, SUNY Buffalo) is the award-winning author of On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books. She is a frequent speaker, a monthly columnist at Religion News Service, and has written for Christianity Today, The Atlantic, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and Vox. She is a contributing editor for Comment, a founding member of the Pelican Project, a senior fellow at the Trinity Forum, and a senior fellow at the International Alliance for Christian Education. Connect with Karen on Instagram and Twitter

Join us for our Season Finale as we talk about love and marriage. Pull up a chair and let's discuss! To learn more about The Pelican Project's mission to joyfully reawaken a culture of life, visit us at www.PelicanProjectMinistry.org --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

Elizabeth Woodson is joined by Kristie Anyabwile to discuss the first step in the Bible study process; context. They unpack the information we need to study before we try to figure out what a passage means.Questions Covered in This Episode:What are the different types of biblical contexts we need to study? Why do we study them?What are the different literary styles or genres present in Scripture? Can you explain the literary style of the law? What is it and how do we read it?How do the prophets call the people back to the law?What is apocalyptic literature and how do we read it?What are some of your favorite tools to learn more about bible genres?Guest Bio:Kristie Anyabwile is an instructor for several Bible training ministries, including the Charles Simeon Trust, and BibleEquipping. She is also a founding member of The Pelican Project, a women's theology organization. She is the editor of His Testimonies, My Heritage: Women of Color on the Word of God, and has written contributions to Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God's Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage, ESV Women's Devotional Bible; Word-Filled Women's Ministry: Loving and Serving the Church; Women on Life: A Call to Love the Unborn, Unloved and Neglected; and Hospitality Matters: Reviving an Ancient Practice for Modern Missions. Her work can also be found at The Front Porch, The Gospel Coalition, Desiring God, Christianity Today, and Revive Our Hearts. She is a pastor's wife and has been married almost thirty years. They have three children.Continue Learning:If you want to learn more about the entire story of the Bible check out Elizabeth's new study, From Beginning To Forever.How To Study The Bible WorkbookLiterarily by Kristie AnyabwileHow To Read the Bible As Literature by Leland RykenHow To Read The Bible For All It's Worth by Gordon FeeAmazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | TikTokOur Sister Podcasts:Knowing Faith | The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting ChristianityStarting Place with Elizabeth Woodson is a podcast of Training the Church. For ad-free episodes and more content check out our Patreon. Sponsors:To learn more about our sponsors please visit our website.Follow Us:Twitter | Instagram | TikTokOur Sister Podcasts:Knowing Faith | The Family Discipleship Podcast | Confronting Christianity | Tiny TheologiansStarting Place with Elizabeth Woodson is a podcast of Training the Church. For ad-free episodes and more content check out our Patreon.

Pull up a chair and join us this week as we sit down to chat with Father Peter Pomposello, @fr.unclesam, about family and vocation. For more about The Pelican Project and our mission to joyfully reawaken a culture of life visit www.PelicanProjectMinistry.org. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

Satan tempts man away from flourishing within his masculine gifts and responsibilities through deception and distraction. Man simply cannot be the protector and provider God created him to be if he does not first have mastery over his own desires and passions and the temptations Satan sends his way. To learn more about The Pelican Project and our mission to joyfully reawaken a culture of life, visit us at www.PelicanProjectMinistry.org Mentioned in this week's episode A Time To Die: Monks on the Threshold of Eternal Life by Nicolas Diat A Family Guide to Spiritual Warfare - Strategies for Deliverance and Healing by Kathleen Beckman, L.H.S. Into the Breach - An Apostolic Exhortation by Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

While the Father, Son and Holy Spirit act as one—we can examine each Person of the Trinity to derive a better understanding of who God created men to be. To learn more about The Pelican Project's mission to joyfully reawaken a culture of life, visit us at www.PelicanProjectMinistry.org Find this week's Pray, Grow, and Serve devotional here! Into the Breach by Bishop Olmsted Into the Breach video series by The Knights of Columbus inspired by the Apostolic Exhortation by Bishop Olmsted --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

In this episode of the Explicitly Pro-Life podcast, we delve into the extraordinary journey of Kelly Tolman. She faced a challenging crisis pregnancy and endured immense pressure to choose abortion. After three failed abortion attempts, Kelly stood strong and chose life for her precious son. But her story doesn't end there. Kelly's courageous decision propelled her to establish a pregnancy resource center and co-found The Pelican Project—an invaluable online resource that empowers parents and educates children about the sanctity of human life. Join us as we unravel Kelly's inspiring path from crisis to compassion and discover how she harnesses her story to save countless lives. To learn more about Kelly and her transformative work, visit The Pelican Project's website at https://thepelicanproject.com/. Available NOW on: ExplicitlyProLife.com or wherever you get your podcasts!  ✓ YouTube: https://bit.ly/2DiGLin ✓ Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2X15zlZ ✓ Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/30ZA8tw ✓ Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/30V0Kfd ✓ Stitcher: https://bit.ly/331EgvL Connect with Kristan:  ✓ Kristan's website: https://bit.ly/3zsv1os ✓ Kristan's YouTube: https://bit.ly/3IVonKg  ✓ Kristan's Instagram: https://bit.ly/3ogRApH 

Adam Griffin, Chelsea Griffin, and Cassie Bryant are joined by Andy Crouch to talk about what family discipleship looked like in the Crouch household and how commitments around technology played a part in that.Questions Covered in This Episode:If I asked one of your family members to describe you, what kind of things do you think they would say, and, if it's different, what kind of things would you hope they would say?What did following Christ as a family look like for y'all? What were the rhythms of discipleship for you as a dad?How did being a dad impact the way you view God as our Heavenly Father? What scriptures did y'all lean into as you thought about what your hopes were for your family?Would you be willing to share about any times that were particularly difficult for you as you led your home toward Christ?Why is it so important for families to be conscientious about technology?Can you talk about how waking up before devices and going to bed before devices worked and why you recommend that?Were any of these commitments around technology ever points of contention for your kids or did they accept them easily?What are some ways that we can pray for you?Guest Bio:Andy Crouch is partner for theology and culture at Praxis, an organization that works as a creative engine for redemptive entrepreneurship. His writing explores faith, culture, and the image of God in the domains of technology, power, leadership, and the arts. He is the author of five books: The Life We're Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World, The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place, Strong and Weak: Embracing a Life of Love, Risk and True Flourishing, Playing God: Redeeming the Gift of Power, and Culture Making: Recovering Our Creative Calling. Andy serves on the governing board of InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. He also serves as an advisor to The Repentance Project, The Pelican Project, and Revoice. Resources Mentioned in This Episode:John 21:18“The Tech-wise Family” by Andy Crouch“My Tech-wise Life” by Amy & Andy CrouchAmazon affiliate links are used where appropriate. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases, thank you for supporting Training the Church.Follow Us:Instagram | Facebook | TwitterOur Sister Shows:Knowing Faith | Confronting Christianity | Starting PlaceThe Family Discipleship Podcast is a podcast of Training the Church. For ad-free episodes and more content check out our Patreon.

Kelly Tolman and Crystal Comiskey share the mission and vision behind The Pelican Project, which helps parents build a culture of life in the home, and provides free resources to spark life-affirming daily conversations.

The Pelican Project supports parents in teaching their children the dignity and sanctity of human life. Co-founders Kelly Tolman and Crystal Comiskey share how they met and why this ministry means so much to them.

If you thought bad evangelical sex books were a thing of the 80s and 90s, guess again. Last week The Gospel Coalition lit the interwebs on fire by publishing an excerpt from an upcoming book by one of their (now former) fellows. This conversation untangles the sloppy reading of Ephesians 5, disturbing Roman Catholic roots, and what happens when we misuse biblical metaphors.  Partner with us for $3/month to join us for The Big Debrief, a zoom call where we discuss all the things you heard in this episode and more. You also get romcom recaps, Purity Culture News & Views, and special partner-only episodes. Full show notes here Amy Peeler is Associate Professor of New Testament at Wheaton College and Associate Rector at St. Mark's Episcopal Church in Geneva, IL. She is author of Women and the Gender of God (Eerdmans, 2022), You Are My Son”: The Family of God in the Epistle to the Hebrews (T&T Clark, 2014), and co-author with Patrick Gray of Hebrews: An Introduction and Study Guide (T&T Clark, 2020). Follow Amy on Twitter.  Rebekah Mui is a PhD student researching empire, Christian anarcho-pacifism, and postcolonial Anabaptism at Virginia Tech. As editor of KingdomOutpost.org, she engages Anabaptist thought with issues like Christian nationalism and patriarchal abuses in the wider Christian world. Read Rebekah's work at: Part 1: Lust, Love and the Doctrine of Two Kingdoms,  Part 2: The Violence of Lust and Pornography  Part 3: Sexual Sin, Purity, and Bearing One Another's Burdens. Follow Rebekah on Twitter Andrew T. Draper (PhD, University of Aberdeen) is founding teaching pastor at Urban Light Community Church and the author of A Theology of Race and Place, co-author of Disabling Leadership, editor of Christian Mission and Poverty, and has authored numerous articles on race, disability, and the church, including contributing a chapter to Can "White" People Be Saved? Follow Andrew on Twitter Christy Hemphill is an educator trained in linguistics who supports minority language Scripture translation, literacy, and language development efforts in Indigenous communities in Southern Mexico with SIL. She is currently working on an editorial team that is developing a translators' resource for identifying conceptual metaphors implicit in the figurative language of the Psalms. Follow Christy on Twitter   Bekah Mason (ThM, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) has spent much of her adult life advocating for those on the margins of the church—sexual and racial minorities, foster and adoptive families, and abuse survivors. She is currently the Executive Director of Revoice and a founding member of The Pelican Project, and lives with her two kids and an absurd number of pets in Chattanooga, TN. Follow Bekah on Twitter.            

Join Kelly and Crystal as they discuss reflections from the first week of The Pelican Project's Lenten study Unvarnished Canvas. As you raise your children in the faith and walk the storms that rage within this culture, know that the joy of His peace is only as far away as your heart. Your children are watching you. If you make your faith a to-do list, they will too. But, if they see you walk with Christ and seek wholeness and rest through Him, they will follow. Stumbles you make along the way, if you stay within His embrace, will be a sign of His strength, not your weakness, and they will follow. As you strive to accept your identity as His son or daughter, as you strive to hear Him in the stillness of your heart, as you work to glorify Him in those around you, they will too. They will follow because a piece of their heart rests in you too. Pray, grow, and serve with your child this week with our weekly devotional. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

Is the Bible one big book? A collection of little books? Is it even a book at all? Join us for week 9 of the 52 Weeks in the Word podcast where we are joined by Kristie Anyabwile for a discussion on Bible genres and how knowing the Bibles different genres can inform our Bible reading. Kristie Anyabwile is the author of Literarily: How Understanding Bible Genres Transforms Bible Study (Spring 2022), and editor of His Testimonies, My Heritage: Women of Color on the Word of God (2019). She is an instructor for women Bible teachers with the Charles Simeon Trust, and is a founding member of The Pelican Project, a women’s theology organization. She has written contributions for Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God's Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage, ESV Women's Devotional Bible; Word-Filled Women's Ministry: Loving and Serving the Church; Women on Life: A Call to Love the Unborn, Unloved and Neglected; and Hospitality Matters: Reviving an Ancient Practice for Modern Missions. Her work can also be found at The Front Porch, The Gospel Coalition, Desiring God, Christianity Today, and Revive Our Hearts. She is a pastor’s wife and has been married to Thabiti 30 years. They have 3 children. This week’s reading Deuteronomy 20 - Joshua 8See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bonus Episode 38: #GriefAND Lent featuring Tish Harrison Warren. Tish is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America. She is the author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life (Christianity Today's 2018 Book of the Year) and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep (Christianity Today's 2022 Book of the Year and 2022 ECPA Christian Book of the Year). Currently, Tish writes a weekly newsletter for The New York Times, and she is a columnist for Christianity Today. Her articles and essays have appeared in Religion News Service, Christianity Today, Comment Magazine, The Point Magazine, The New York Times, and elsewhere. For over a decade, Tish has worked in ministry settings as a campus minister with InterVarsity Graduate and Faculty Ministries, as an associate rector, and with addicts and those in poverty through various churches and non-profit organizations. Now, Tish serves as Writer in Residence at Resurrection South Austin. She is a founding member of The Pelican Project and a Senior Fellow with the Trinity Forum. She lives with her husband and three children in the Austin, Texas area.

Today we have a very special returning guest. Lindsey Medenwaldt is Director of Ministry Operations at Mama Bear Apologetics, where she's the resident worldview and world religion specialist. She has a master's degree in apologetics and ethics from Denver Seminary, as well as a master's in public administration and a law degree. She's also a full-time children's pastor, an editor and writer for the Christian Research Journal, and a member of the Pelican Project. She recently contributed a chapter about the Jehovah's Witnesses to the Harvest House Popular Handbook of World Religions (March 2021). Lindsey and her husband, Jay (who is also an apologist), have been married for 14 years. They have three daughters and live in Texas. In her spare time, Lindsey loves watching British reality television, especially The Great British Baking Show, and she's an avid reader.Today on the podcast, they talk about the differences between Christianity and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. We hope you enjoy! ___________We would love to thank our Patrons for all their amazing support! To learn more about supporting Finding Something REAL via Patreon, click here!To learn more about Faithful Counseling and if it is a good fit for you, you can click here!Are you interested in having Janell speak at your event? Click here!Maria's Season 4 Intro Mariah & ZachMariah & Alycia Mariah & DrewMariah & RebeccaFSR s4e14 with Lindsey Medenwaldt FSR s1e7 with Hilary Morgan FerrerMama Bear Apologetics The Mama Bear's Guide to Biblical Sexuality Sandra McGee Tanner Anthropocene Reviewed by John Green

In this week's episode, Kelly and Crystal talk about The Pelican Project's Dignity of the Unborn bundle. This month is the March for Life (20th) and the Day of Prayer for the Legal Protection of the Unborn (23rd). This gives us a wonderful opportunity to discuss the dignity of the unborn with our children. The Pelican Project can help! Download our Dignity of the Unborn bundle and you will receive... Elementary Age: “Protecting the Unborn,” “A Child's Guide to Spiritual Adoption,” “Exploring the Development of an Unborn Baby” & “Made in His image.” Teen/Adult: “Exploring the Development of an Unborn Baby” & “My Abortion Appointment(s).” Also, click here for access to our Spiritual Adoption page. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

It's the time of year when many of us start reflecting on the year gone by and making resolutions for the year to come. Join Kelly and Crystal as they offer suggestions and resolutions of their own to help reawaken a Culture of LIFE! Links we promised... Pray the Litany of Humility. Find all of The Pelican Project tools and resources you need here. Stay connected with The Pelican Project, receive weekly Pray, Grow, and Serve devotionals and be the first to get updates about new releases! Check out these picks from Kelly's book list... Adam and Eve After the Pill, Mary Eberstadt The Unaborted Socrates: The Dramatic Debate on Issues Surrounding Abortion, Dr. Peter Kreeft Life Issues, Medical Choices: Questions and Answers for Catholics, Dr. Janet Smith Persuasive Prolife, Trent Horn Making Sense Out of Suffering, Dr. Peter Kreeft Catholic Bioethics, William May Man and Woman, He Created Them: A Theology of the Body, John Paul II If You Really Loved Me, Jason Evert Fighting for Life, Lila Rose Made for Love, Fr. Mike Schmitz --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

You asked and we answered! Crystal and Kelly share about The Pelican Project, favorite saints, great books and how we met! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

In previous episodes of the Rule of Life podcast, listeners tune in to a roundtable discussion as well as audio-snippets from luminary thinkers, pastors, and apprentices who are following Jesus in the every day. Featured in the Sabbath series (season 1) is luminary thinker, Tish Harrison Warren. This episode of the Rule of Life podcast is the interview between John Mark and Tish in its entirety. In this episode they cover the sacredness of ordinary life, the ethical implications of Sabbath, and the importance of Spiritual, bodily habituation.About TishTish Harrison Warren is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America. She is the author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life (Christianity Today's 2018 Book of the Year) and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep (Christianity Today's 2022 Book of the Year and 2022 ECPA Christian Book of the Year).Currently, Tish writes a weekly newsletter for The New York Times, and she is a columnist for Christianity Today. Her articles and essays have appeared in Religion News Service, Christianity Today, Comment Magazine, The Point Magazine, The New York Times, and elsewhere.For over a decade, Tish has worked in ministry settings as a campus minister with InterVarsity Graduate and Faculty Ministries, as an associate rector, and with addicts and those in poverty through various churches and non-profit organizations. Now, Tish serves as Writer in Residence at Resurrection South Austin. She is a founding member of The Pelican Project and a Senior Fellow with the Trinity Forum. She lives with her husband and three children in the Austin, Texas area.

Hope in the Darkness - In this episode, Kelly and Crystal's paths collide when they begin to work together at a Pregnancy Resource Center. Together they share their difficult experiences working in this space. Also! I shout out and thank you to the Catholic Women of the Chapel (CWOC) at JBLM for inviting us to speak at your gathering to learn more about The Pelican Project! Read more about Kelly's story in Wandering Heart. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

What is true kingdom hospitality? How about Hygge-ly hospitality? Join host Jamie Erickson and guest Kristie Anyabwile for a deep dive into what the danish concept of Hygge has to do with hospitality, and what hospitality has to do with the the ministry of Jesus. They discuss all things purpose and place when it comes to this first core tenet of hygge.  About Kristie: Kristie is editor of His Testimonies, My Heritage: Women of Color on the Word of God. She is the Associate Director of Women's Workshops for the Charles Simeon Trust, and is a founding member of The Pelican Project. She has written contributions for Held: 31 Biblical Reflections on God's Comfort and Care in the Sorrow of Miscarriage, ESV Women's Devotional Bible; Word-Filled Women's Ministry: Loving and Serving the Church; Women on Life: A Call to Love the Unborn, Unloved and Neglected; and Hospitality Matters: Reviving an Ancient Practice for Modern Missions. Her work can also be found at The Front Porch, The Gospel Coalition, Desiring God, Christianity Today, and Revive Our Hearts. She is a pastor's wife and has been married almost 30 years. They have 3 children. You can follow her on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). ********** https://www.dorothygreco.com/ (Dorothy Littell Greco) is an author, photojournalist, writer, and marriage coach. Dorothy feels equally at home speaking in front of hundreds or standing behind her camera without saying a word. Her words and images offer hope and encouragement to those longing for healing, reconciliation, and joy. Her writing has been featured in Christianity Today, Missio Alliance, MOPs, Relevant Magazine, Christians for Biblical Equality, The Mudroom, Sojourners, Biola Center for Marriage and Family, Christine Cain's Propel for Women, Perennial Generation, Patheos, and The Englewood Review of Books. http://www.dorothygreco.com/my-book/ (Making Marriage Beautiful), herr first book, was published by David C Cook in January of 2017. Her second book, https://www.ivpress.com/marriage-in-the-middle (Marriage in the Middle), was published by InterVarsity Press in September of 2020. Past and present photography clients include: The National Geographic, New England Home Magazine, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Boston Globe, Yankee Magazine, Mass General Hospital, Harvard University, Boston University, Knopf Publishers, Lexington Christian Academy, Boston Trinity Academy, Arnold Arboretum, Houghton Mifflin, and many more. I have won several awards from Communication Arts Photography Annual and National Press Photographers. She is a graduate of Boston University and a member of https://redbudwritersguild.com/ (Redbud Writers' Guild) and the https://thepelicanproject.com/ (Pelican Project). She has been married to Christopher for 31 years, and they have three grown sons and two amazing daughters-in-law. She loves walking on beaches, traveling, seeing great theater, and kayaking. She also enjoy spending time with friends and figuring out how to make awesome paleo meals. She joins us to talk about restoring marriage to the mutuality it was intended to be. Enter to win one of 2 copies of each of Dororthy's books in the giveaway! Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr)Other EPS mentioned in this podcast: https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s3e49 (EPS 49 Dr. Mimi Haddad) (CEO of https://www.cbeinternational.org/ (Christians for Biblical Equality)) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e31 (EPS 31 Dr. Graham Hill) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e21 (EPS 23 Kate Wallace Nunneley) of the https://juniaproject.com/ (Junia Project) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e30 (EPS 30 Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer) Check out https://justicerevival.org/ (Justice Revival) and the #Faith4ERA campaign to get people of faith to help pass the ERA. *** The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Join us to discuss this episode, previous episodes or for other thoughtful conversations at our https://www.facebook.com/groups/651922025855936 (Facebook group). We'd love to have you stop by and share your perspective. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse...

https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Become a patron of this podcast), and enjoy free merch. Join other patrons of this podcast at https://www.patreon.com/aworldofdifference (Patreon). ********** https://www.dorothygreco.com/ (Dorothy Littell Greco) is an author, photojournalist, writer, and marriage coach. Dorothy feels equally at home speaking in front of hundreds or standing behind her camera without saying a word. Her words and images offer hope and encouragement to those longing for healing, reconciliation, and joy. Her writing has been featured in Christianity Today, Missio Alliance, MOPs, Relevant Magazine, Christians for Biblical Equality, The Mudroom, Sojourners, Biola Center for Marriage and Family, Christine Cain's Propel for Women, Perennial Generation, Patheos, and The Englewood Review of Books. http://www.dorothygreco.com/my-book/ (Making Marriage Beautiful), herr first book, was published by David C Cook in January of 2017. Her second book, https://www.ivpress.com/marriage-in-the-middle (Marriage in the Middle), was published by InterVarsity Press in September of 2020. Past and present photography clients include: The National Geographic, New England Home Magazine, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Boston Globe, Yankee Magazine, Mass General Hospital, Harvard University, Boston University, Knopf Publishers, Lexington Christian Academy, Boston Trinity Academy, Arnold Arboretum, Houghton Mifflin, and many more. I have won several awards from Communication Arts Photography Annual and National Press Photographers. She is a graduate of Boston University and a member of https://redbudwritersguild.com/ (Redbud Writers' Guild) and the https://thepelicanproject.com/ (Pelican Project). She has been married to Christopher for 31 years, and they have three grown sons and two amazing daughters-in-law. She loves walking on beaches, traveling, seeing great theater, and kayaking. She also enjoy spending time with friends and figuring out how to make awesome paleo meals. She joins us to talk about restoring marriage to the mutuality it was intended to be. Enter to win one of 2 copies of each of Dororthy's books in the giveaway! Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr)Other EPS mentioned in this podcast: https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s3e49 (EPS 49 Dr. Mimi Haddad) (CEO of https://www.cbeinternational.org/ (Christians for Biblical Equality)) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e31 (EPS 31 Dr. Graham Hill) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e21 (EPS 23 Kate Wallace Nunneley) of the https://juniaproject.com/ (Junia Project) https://www.podpage.com/a-world-of-difference/s2e30 (EPS 30 Dr. Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer) Check out https://justicerevival.org/ (Justice Revival) and the #Faith4ERA campaign to get people of faith to help pass the ERA. *** The A World of Difference Podcast is brought to you in partnership with https://www.missioalliance.org/ (Missio Alliance). Join us to discuss this episode, previous episodes or for other thoughtful conversations at our https://www.facebook.com/groups/651922025855936 (Facebook group). We'd love to have you stop by and share your perspective. Stay In Touch: Connect on Facebook and Instagram with thoughts, questions, and feedback. Rate, review and share this podcast with anyone that would love to listen.   Find Us Online: https://www.instagram.com/aworldof.difference/ (@aworldof.difference) on Instagram and https://www.facebook.com/A-World-of-Difference-613933132591673/ (A World of Difference) on Facebook, on Twitter at https://twitter.com/loriadbr (@loriadbr) & on Clubhouse...

This episode of the Women & Work podcast features an interview with Dr. Karen Swallow Prior, a Research Professor of English and Christianity & Culture at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.    She is the author of Booked: Literature in the Soul of Me (T. S. Poetry Press, 2012), Fierce Convictions: The Extraordinary Life of Hannah More—Poet, Reformer, Abolitionist (Thomas Nelson, 2014), and On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books (Brazos 2018). She is co-editor of Cultural Engagement: A Crash Course in Contemporary Issues (Zondervan 2019) and has contributed to numerous other books.    She is host of the popular podcast Jane and Jesus. She has a monthly column for Religion News Service. Her writing has appeared at Christianity Today, New York Times, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, First Things, Vox, Think Christian, The Gospel Coalition, Books and Culture and other places. She is a Contributing Editor for Comment, a founding member of The Pelican Project, a Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum, a Senior Fellow at the International Alliance for Christian Education, a Senior Fellow at the L. Russ Bush Center for Faith and Culture and is a former member of the Faith Advisory Council of the Humane Society of the United States.    She and her husband live on a 100-year-old homestead in central Virginia with dogs, chickens, and lots of books.   In this episode, Dr. Prior discusses with Courtney and Missie:   –– Why she considers herself first a reader before a writer –– How she realized writing and teaching were what God had called her to vocationally and how       listeners can discern their own calling –– How she helps readers navigate literary pitfalls as well as read in light of the gospel –– How reading builds character and how literature can help us discover “the good life” –– How her work as a writer and professor images God –– How she views her own unintentional childlessness in light of her profession –– Advice for aspiring writers    Mentioned on the Show: On Reading Well Booked: Literature in the Soul of Me Cultural Engagement: A Crash Course in Contemporary Issues  Fierce Convictions: The Extraordinary Life of Hannah More, Poet, Reformer, Abolitionist  Jane Eyre: A Guide to Reading and Reflecting The Scarlet Letter: A Guide to Reading and Reflecting Tess of the d'Urbervilles: A Guide to Reading and Reflecting Frankenstein: A Guide to Reading and Reflecting Sense and Sensibility: A Guide to Reading and Reflecting Heart of Darkness Pride and Prejudice   If you find that the Women & Work Podcast is inspiring you to more confidently step into your God-given calling and view your work as meaningful to the kingdom of God, would you consider partnering with us by making a tax-deductible monthly or one-time donation? Go to womenwork.net/donate today. Thank you!  

Kelly and Crystal chat about Kelly's unplanned pregnancy as a teen and the important work of parenthood. If you would like to read more about Kelly's initial struggle with an unplanned pregnancy, be sure to check out her blog post, "My abortion appointments." Download "Wandering Heart." For more resources from the Pelican Project, visit us at PelicanProjectMinistry.org. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pelicanproject/message

What would you say to a skeptic who asks you to describe the differences between your faith and the faith of a Muslim or a Hindu? Would you be able to explain the basic differences between your faith and that of a Mormon or Jehovah's Witness who knocks at your door? In our ever-increasingly religiously diverse and pluralistic society, we cannot afford to ignore the ideas, beliefs, and practices surrounding us. But we also do not need to become scholars in comparative religions to be able to give a defense for the hope that is in us as Christians to those who believe differently than we do. On part two of our conversation about religious pluralism, Mama Bear Apologetics world religions specialist Lindsey Medenwaldt gives us more practical advice about how to engage with those of other faiths. Knowing what others believe and giving a defense to them of your faith in Christ is not as overwhelming as it might first seem.Lindsey Medenwaldt is Director of Ministry Operations at Mama Bear Apologetics, and she is their resident worldview and world religion specialist. She has a master's degree in apologetics and ethics from Denver Seminary, as well as a master's in public administration and a law degree. She's also a full-time children's pastor, an editor and writer for the Christian Research Journal, and a member of the Pelican Project. She recently contributed a chapter about the Jehovah's Witnesses to the Harvest House Popular Handbook of World Religions (March 2021). Lindsey and her husband, Jay (who is also an apologist), have been married for 14 years. They have three daughters and live in Texas. In her spare time, Lindsey loves watching British reality television, especially The Great British Baking Show, and she's an avid reader (Jay and Lindsey have an at-home library of more than 2,000 books!).LINDSEY MEDENWALDT RESOURCES: Lindsay's blog on other religions: www.mamabearapologetics.com/author/lindsey-medenwaldt/ Meet the Mama Bears Apologetics Team: www.mamabearapologetics.com/about/meet-the-mama-bears/ Lindsay's Watchman Fellowship Profile on Religious Pluralism: watchman.org/Pluralism ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Watchman Fellowship article "The Key to Effective Religious Dialogue" by Jason Barker: watchman.org/Dialogue Watchman Fellowship article "Just Two Kinds of Religion" by Timothy Oliver: watchman.org/2Kinds Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on Hinduism by C. Fred Smith: watchman.org/Hindu Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on Islam by James Walker: watchman.org/Muslim  Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on Zen Buddhism by Jason Barker: watchman.org/Zen Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on Atheism by Robert M. Bowman: watchman.org/Atheism Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism) by Tim Martin: watchman.org/Mormonism Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah's Witnesses) by Jason Barker: watchman.org/Watchtower FREE: We are also offering a free subscription to our bimonthly Profiles here: www.watchman.org/FreeProfile Notebook: Get the full collection of 4-page Profiles published by Watchman Fellowship (over 600 pages!) here: watchman.org/DigitalNotebook.SUPPORT: Help us create more content like this. Make a tax-deductible donation here: www.watchman.org/give.Apologetics Profile is a ministry of Watchman FellowshipFor more information, visit www.watchman.org © Watchman Fellowship, Inc.

Increasingly our neighborhoods, schools, workplace, and culture at large have become much more religiously and ethnically diverse. We also have instantaneous access to a plethora of information about other religions through the internet and social media. We meet all kinds of people who accept a wide variety of different beliefs and practices related to God. These present significant challenges to the exclusivity of Jesus being the only way to the Father. What is the difference between religious diversity and religious plurality? Do all paths lead to God or is there finally only one way, as Jesus proclaimed? What are we to make of the multiplicity of other religions by which we are surrounded? How do we best equip ourselves as Christians to understand the times and ideas in which we live? How do we reach out to our religious non-Christian neighbors?On the next two episodes of Apologetics Profile we offer some down-to-earth advice from a "Mama Bear" about how we can effectively engage our non-Christian religious friends and neighbors without having to become an expert in comparative religious studies! World religion specialist Lindsey Medenwaldt shares with us her wisdom and experience and offers some great insights you can begin applying immediately to your conversations with people of other faiths.Lindsey Medenwaldt is Director of Ministry Operations at Mama Bear Apologetics, and she is their resident worldview and world religion specialist. She has a master's degree in apologetics and ethics from Denver Seminary, as well as a master's in public administration and a law degree. She's also a full-time children's pastor, an editor and writer for the Christian Research Journal, and a member of the Pelican Project. She recently contributed a chapter about the Jehovah's Witnesses to the Harvest House Popular Handbook of World Religions (March 2021). Lindsey and her husband, Jay (who is also an apologist), have been married for 14 years. They have three daughters and live in Texas. In her spare time, Lindsey loves watching British reality television, especially The Great British Baking Show, and she's an avid reader (Jay and Lindsey have an at-home library of more than 2,000 books!).LINDSEY MEDENWALDT RESOURCES: Lindsay's blog on other religions: www.mamabearapologetics.com/author/lindsey-medenwaldt/ Meet the Mama Bears Apologetics Team: www.mamabearapologetics.com/about/meet-the-mama-bears/ Lindsay's Watchman Fellowship Profile on Religious Pluralism: watchman.org/Pluralism ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: Watchman Fellowship article "The Key to Effective Religious Dialogue" by Jason Barker: watchman.org/Dialogue Watchman Fellowship article "Just Two Kinds of Religion" by Timothy Oliver: watchman.org/2Kinds Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on Hinduism by C. Fred Smith: watchman.org/Hindu Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on Islam by James Walker: watchman.org/Muslim  Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on Zen Buddhism by Jason Barker: watchman.org/Zen Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on Atheism by Robert M. Bowman: watchman.org/Atheism Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism) by Tim Martin: watchman.org/Mormonism Watchman Fellowship's 4-page Profile on The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (Jehovah's Witnesses) by Jason Barker: watchman.org/Watchtower FREE: We are also offering a free subscription to our bimonthly Profiles here: www.watchman.org/FreeProfile Notebook: Get the full collection of 4-page Profiles published by Watchman Fellowship (over 600 pages!) here: watchman.org/DigitalNotebook.SUPPORT: Help us create more content like this. Make a tax-deductible donation here: www.watchman.org/give.Apologetics Profile is a ministry of Watchman FellowshipFor more information, visit www.watchman.org © Watchman Fellowship, Inc.

May is Mental Health Awareness Month. Over the next few weeks we'll continue our conversations with folks who navigate spaces around mental health. In this week's episode, ~ing producer Ben Wideman is joined by Herald Press author, Michelle Van Loon. Michelle is the author of six books, including Translating Your Past: Finding Meaning in Family Ancestry, Genetic Clues, and Generational Trauma, and has been a regular contributor at Christianity Today and In Touch magazine and has a wide range of published work including curriculum, devotionals, articles, and plays. She is a founding member of The Pelican Project, a women's theology organization, and the co-founder of www.ThePerennialGen.com, a website for midlife women and men. Today's episode will touch on themes from her recent book, including how our family stories—including the difficult, complex ones—can carry great spiritual strength. We hope you consider advertising with ~ing Podcast. Are you connected to an organization with similar values or themes to our guests? Consider becoming an episode or season sponsor! we'll help you reach our growing audience. To find out more, email joeh@mennomedia.org A written transcript of this episode is available at our website - https://www.mennomedia.org/ing-podcast/ ~ing Podcast is a production of MennoMedia, a nonprofit Publisher that creates thoughtful, Anabaptist resources to enrich faith in a complex world. To find out more, visit us online at MennoMedia.org --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/ing-pod/message

This episode of We Are Vineyard is the second in a 2-part conversation between Jay and Tish Harrison Warren. Tish shares some of her best practices and tangible steps for writing, along with wisdom about how to know what conversations will benefit from contributing your voice. Tish and Jay then discuss the impacts of social media on our thinking, and the damage done to the witness of Jesus by how Christians treat each other online. Finally, Tish shares how her book Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep came to be, how she discovered she was using theology to avoid real faith questions, and her thoughts on suffering and joy. Tish Harrison Warren is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America. She is the author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life (Christianity Today's 2018 Book of the Year) and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep (Christianity Today's 2022 Book of the Year). Currently, Tish writes a weekly newsletter for The New York Times, and she is a columnist for Christianity Today. Her articles and essays have appeared in Religion News Service, Christianity Today, Comment Magazine, The Point Magazine, The New York Times, and elsewhere. For over a decade, Tish has worked in ministry settings as a campus minister with InterVarsity Graduate and Faculty Ministries, as an associate rector, and with addicts and those in poverty through various churches and non-profit organizations. Now, Tish serves as Writer in Residence at Resurrection South Austin. She is a founding member of The Pelican Project and a Senior Fellow with the Trinity Forum. She lives with her husband and three children in the Austin, Texas area.

This episode of We Are Vineyard is the first in a 2-part conversation between Jay and Tish Harrison Warren. Tish shares about her youthful realization that she was called to ministry and how she walked that path as a young woman in the Baptist church. They then move into discussing how to navigate marriage and parenting roles when each spouse has a similar calling, and celebrating each other's wholeness in vocation while balancing the practical needs of the family, travel and work schedules. This is a beautiful and honest conversation about gender roles, faith and family. Come back next week for part 2! Tish Harrison Warren is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America. She is the author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life (Christianity Today's 2018 Book of the Year) and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep (Christianity Today's 2022 Book of the Year). Currently, Tish writes a weekly newsletter for The New York Times, and she is a columnist for Christianity Today. Her articles and essays have appeared in Religion News Service, Christianity Today, Comment Magazine, The Point Magazine, The New York Times, and elsewhere. For over a decade, Tish has worked in ministry settings as a campus minister with InterVarsity Graduate and Faculty Ministries, as an associate rector, and with addicts and those in poverty through various churches and non-profit organizations. Now, Tish serves as Writer in Residence at Resurrection South Austin. She is a founding member of The Pelican Project and a Senior Fellow with the Trinity Forum. She lives with her husband and three children in the Austin, Texas area.

Today on the podcast, I had the real privilege of getting to talk to Tish Harrison Warren. She's a priest in the Anglican Church in North America as well as an author. She's written Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life, which won Christianity Today's 2018 Book of the Year and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep, which won Christianity Today's 2022 Book of the Year. And releasing May 31 of this year, she has written Little Prayers for Ordinary Days. In addition to all of that she currently writes a weekly newsletter for The New York Times, which you should subscribe to, and she is a columnist for Christianity Today. Her articles and essays have appeared in Religion News Service, Christianity Today, Comment Magazine, The Point Magazine, The New York Times, and elsewhere. For over a decade, Tish has worked in ministry settings as a campus minister with InterVarsity Graduate and Faculty Ministries, as an associate rector, and with addicts and those in poverty through various churches and non-profit organizations. Now, Tish serves as Writer in Residence at Resurrection South Austin. She is a founding member of The Pelican Project and a Senior Fellow with the Trinity Forum. She lives with her husband and three children in the Austin, Texas area. In today's conversation, we talk about all the things. We talk about her books Liturgy for the Ordinary, Prayer in the Night and her new release, Little Prayers for Ordinary Days. We talk about her faith journey, the liturgies that form our daily lives, and finding God in the suffering—the importance of liturgical prayer to give us words when we don't have the words. We also talk about how we can take God off trial and rest in his goodness, love and mercy in the midst of difficult and sad seasons through the hope of the resurrection. And now let's listen to my conversation with Tish!

Today we have a very special returning guest. Lindsey Medenwaldt is Director of Ministry Operations at Mama Bear Apologetics, where she's the resident worldview and world religion specialist. She has a master's degree in apologetics and ethics from Denver Seminary, as well as a master's in public administration and a law degree. She's also a full-time children's pastor, an editor and writer for the Christian Research Journal, and a member of the Pelican Project. She recently contributed a chapter about the Jehovah's Witnesses to the Harvest House Popular Handbook of World Religions (March 2021). Lindsey and her husband, Jay (who is also an apologist), have been married for 14 years. They have three daughters and live in Texas. In her spare time, Lindsey loves watching British reality television, especially The Great British Baking Show, and she's an avid reader.Today on the podcast, they talk about the differences between Christianity and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. We hope you enjoy! ___________We would love to thank our Patrons for all their amazing support! To learn more about supporting Finding Something REAL via Patreon, click here!Maria's Season 4 Intro Mariah & ZachMariah & Alycia Mariah & DrewMariah & RebeccaFSR s4e14 with Lindsey Medenwaldt FSR s1e7 with Hilary Morgan FerrerMama Bear Apologetics The Mama Bear's Guide to Biblical Sexuality Sandra McGee Tanner Anthropocene Reviewed by John Green

It can be easy to just read the Bible as one big storybook without realizing it is filled with diversity and genres that can help us understand it in a much deeper way.  Join Barb and author Kristie Anyabwile for an insightful conversation as she shares about her book, Literarily: How Understanding Bible Genres Transforms Bible Study, and shows us how we can all understand God's Word better!   RESOURCES FROM THIS EPISODE https://kristieanyabwile.com/ Literarily: How Understanding Bible Genres Transforms Bible Study Connect with Kristie on Instagram!   ABOUT OUR SPECIAL GUEST Kristie is the author of Literarily: How Understanding Bible Genres Transforms Bible Study (Spring 2022), and editor of His Testimonies, My Heritage: Women of Color on the Word of God. She is a Bible teacher at Anacostia River Church, and an instructor for several ministries that equip women to study and teach the Bible, such as The Charles Simeon Trust and Bible Equipping. Kristie is also a founding member of The Pelican Project, a women's theology organization. Her work can be found at The Front Porch, The Gospel Coalition, Desiring God, Christianity Today, and Revive Our Hearts. She is a pastor's wife and has been married 30 years. She and Thabiti have 3 children and live in Washington, DC.

In this episode of BRIDGE Radio, we are joined by author Kristie Anybwile. Kristie is editor of His Testimonies, My Heritage: Women of Color on the Word of God. She is a Bible teacher and founding member of The Pelican Project. In her recent publication, Kristie shows you the immense value of studying the Bible literarily—that is, according to the literary style presented in a particular book, chapter, or passage. In Literarily, Kristie will take you through these eight distinct genres: Law, History, Prophecy, Poetry, Gospels, Epistles, Wisdom, and Apocalyptic.  

Episode 176 - Marriage In The Middle With Dorothy Greco Episode sponsored by DiverseChurchJobs.com Are midlife marriages destined to descend into endless crises, distance, and unhappiness? Contrary to the current cultural narrative, no! Marriage in the Middle normalizes the challenges and surprises of this time frame and then comes alongside couples to help them thrive. Through story, Scripture, and hard-won wisdom, Dorothy Greco offers readers and listeners hope that midlife can be a season of recalibrating, shoring up vulnerabilities, and imagining new ways to create a mutually fulfilling marriage. Dorothy joins our host, Christopher J Harris, for an incredibly warming and insightful discussion on marriage in general and then marriages who are seasoned specifically.  This conversation will leave you with that sense that you just saw down with your best friend, a counselor/therapists, and a Pastor all at the same time...well...because you did. You'll smile...you'll laugh...but you may get a little misty-eyed...and you'll want to take notes as well. Since graduating from Boston University in 1983, Dorothy has been working as a photographer, author, writer, and speaker. She feels equally at home speaking in front of hundreds or standing behind her camera without saying a word. Her words and images offer hope and encouragement to those longing for healing, reconciliation, and joy. Dorothy's writing has been featured in Christianity Today, Missio Alliance, MOPs, Relevant Magazine, Christians for Biblical Equality, The Mudroom, Sojourners, Biola Center for Marriage and Family, Christine Cain's Propel for Women, Perennial Generation, Patheos, and The Englewood Review of Books. Making Marriage Beautiful, her first book, was published by David C Cook in January of 2017. Her second book, Marriage in the Middle, was published by InterVarsity Press in September of 2020. Past and present photography clients include: The National Geographic, New England Home Magazine, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Boston Globe, Yankee Magazine, Mass General Hospital, Harvard University, Boston University, Knopf Publishers, Lexington Christian Academy, Boston Trinity Academy, Arnold Arboretum, Houghton Mifflin, and many more. Dorothy has won several awards from Communication Arts Photography Annual and National Press Photographers. Dorothy Greco is also a member of Redbud Writers' Guild and the Pelican Project. Dorothy and her husband, Christopher, have been married for 29 years. They have three grown sons and two amazing daughters-in-law. They love walking on beaches, traveling, seeing great theater, and kayaking. Dorothy also enjoys spending time with friends and figuring out how to make awesome paleo meals. You can connect with Dorothy here: Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Pinterest   If you need further assistance or have questions, feel free to email us at info@thewiseideapodcast.com ================== For Coaching, Questions, or Additional Information: You can contact us at info@thewiseideapodcast.com  - Subscribe via: iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, RSS Feed, and Spotify Enjoy what you're hearing & seeing? Do you mind Rating & Reviewing This Podcast? Your ratings and reviews help us place the podcast in front of new leaders and listeners. Your feedback also lets me know how I can better serve you. If you have the desire to donate financially to The Wise Idea Podcast, you can do so here. A donation of any amount will be helpful in allowing us to creating the movement to INSPIRE WISDOM. DONATE HERE!                                                            About Our Host: Christopher J. Harris, a native of Palatka, Fla., is currently Executive Pastor of Crossover Church of Tampa, Fla. He is also the Director of Administration & Vision Implementation working collaboratively with the Presiding Bishop's Office and Administration for Full Gospel Baptist Chu...

"We are creatures in time."Today, the Reverend Tish Harrison Warren explores patience as spiritual formation. She's an Anglican priest and author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life, which was Christianity Today's 2018 Book of the Year, and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep. She recently started a weekly newsletter on faith in private and public life for The New York Times.She reflects on the human demand for control in both ordinary and extraordinary life events, from the line at the supermarket to the cancer ward; the recognition of human vulnerability and just hating the fact that we can't control what happens next; the temptation to break out of time; and the difficult balance between the urgent need for justice and the acceptance of our human and societal limits. The entire conversation is illuminated by the beauty of what Hans Urs Von Balthasar calls “the meekness of the Lamb which is led.”Part 6 of a 6-episode series on Patience, hosted by Ryan McAnnally-Linz.About Tish Harrison WarrenTish Harrison Warren is a priest in the Anglican Church in North America. She is the author of Liturgy of the Ordinary: Sacred Practices in Everyday Life, which was Christianity Today's 2018 Book of the Year, and Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work, or Watch, or Weep. She has worked in ministry settings for over a decade as a campus minister with InterVarsity Graduate and Faculty Ministries, as an associate rector, and with addicts and those in poverty through various churches and non-profit organizations. Currently, she is Writer in Residence at Resurrection South Austin. She is a monthly columnist with Christianity Today, and her articles and essays have appeared in the New York Times, Religion News Service, Christianity Today, Comment Magazine, The Point Magazine, and elsewhere. She is a founding member of The Pelican Project and a Senior Fellow with the Trinity Forum. She lives with her husband and three children in the Austin, Texas area.Show Notes"Part of becoming more patient is noticing how impatient you are. ... It's so not-linear."Kids will slow you down and expose your impatiencePatience often looks like other things—"it looks like contentment, it looks like trust, it looks like endurance."Patience and humility: "We are not the President of the United States. Things can go on without us.""Our entire life is lived in a posture of waiting."Waiting for the eschaton, the return of Christ, and things set rightThe illusion of control—James 4:13-14Has Urs Von Balthasar: "God intended man to have all good, but in his, God's, time and therefore all disobedience, all sin consists essentially in breaking out of time. Hence the restoration of order by the Son of God had to be the annulment of that premature snatching at knowledge, the beating down of the hand, outstretched toward eternity, the repentant return from a false, swift transfer of eternity to a true, slow confinement in time. Hence the importance of patience in the New Testament, which becomes the basic constituent of Christianity. More central, even the humility, the power to wait, to persevere, to hold out, to endure to the end, not to transcend one's own limitations, not to force issues by playing the hero or the titan, but to practice the virtue that lies beyond heroism: the meekness of the Lamb which is led.""We are creatures in time."Robert Wilken: "singular mark of patience is hope"Activism and patience together"Patience can get a bad rap, that Christians are just wanting to become bovine."Patience but not quietism, a long wait but not gradualismThe ultimate need to discern the momentClarence Jordan and Martin Luther King Jr.The practices of discernment for individuals and communitiesSocial media trains us to be impatientThe meaning of urgent change is changingInternet advocacy and a connected world makes us less patient people"It takes real work to slow down and listen to another person's perspective, especially if you disagree with them."We often don't have the patience to even understand someone else.Real conversations with real peopleSilence, solitude"Having a body requires an enormous amount of patience.""My kids are so slow. They're the one's teaching me to be patient!"Little hardships of boredom and discomfort"Life with a body and life with real people inevitably involves patience.""Patience is something we learn our way out of through privilege and through being, you know, important adults."Production NotesThis podcast featured priest and author the Reverend Tish Harrison Warren and theologian Ryan McAnnally-LinzEdited and Produced by Evan RosaHosted by Evan RosaProduction Assistance by Martin Chan & Nathan JowersA Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/aboutSupport For the Life of the World podcast by giving to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture: https://faith.yale.edu/give

Across the Internet—the place where many missionaries away from home get much of their theology and encouragement—there is a critical drought of deep-thinking resources for women. Many of the women's resources simply play to one's emotions or repackage common tropes like “you are loved” or “you are beautiful.” How can we make sure that we are helping women deepen in their faith, their view of culture, and their heart for the local church—so that they can be more effective on mission? This week, we followed up with friend of the show Dr. Karen Swallow Prior of Liberty University, prolific author and research fellow with the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, to talk about The Pelican Project, a new resource designed to take evangelical woman deeper. Karen is the author of On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life in Great Books. We also spoke with Anne Kennedy, an MK, active church member, writer for The Pelican Project, and author of Nailed It: 365 Sarcastic Devotions for Angry and Worn-Out People. Click here to hear our original interview with Karen. Remember to share, rate, leave a review, and subscribe. Together we can help bridge the gap between the worlds of theology and missions. Want to ask a question for a future episode? Email alex@missionspodcast.com. Powered by ABWE International.

**54 million people will travel more than 50 miles over the next 48 hours** An Improbable Life: The Inspiring Story of Howard C. Dillaman ... GUEST Michael Peuler ... one-time author, retired businessman, and world traveler **This Day in HIstory: Queen Elizabeth married Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh (1947)** *Coldest Thanksgiving in Pgh History ... + What are flavor-blasted Turkeys? The Pelican Project: Nourished by Christ, Serving the Church ... GUESTS Dr Karen Swallow Prior, professor in the English Department, Liberty University, and a senior fellow at Liberty University's Center for Apologetics and Cultural Engagement ... Her latest work is “On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books ... and ... GUEST Anne Kennedy, author of "Nailed It: 365 Sarcastic Devotionals for Angry and Worn Out People" she blogs everyday at: Preventingrace.com ... Anne lives in upstate NY where she mothers her 6 young children and her husband an Anglican priest ... (The Pelican Project is a guild of women fostering commitment to Christian faith and practice across cultural, denominational, and racial lines) **Condoleeza Rice challenges the NFL to develop more female coaches** The Paradise Fire: One Man’s and One Church’s Story ... GUEST Josh Gallagher ... pastor, Paradise Alliance Church ... he left Paradise last Thursday, initially for a shelter at Neighborhood Church in Chico, CA ... he later learned that his family had lost their home, along with 18 of 21 families on the church’s staff — a proportion that corresponds with the degree of loss across the communitySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

**54 million people will travel more than 50 miles over the next 48 hours** An Improbable Life: The Inspiring Story of Howard C. Dillaman ... GUEST Michael Peuler ... one-time author, retired businessman, and world traveler **This Day in HIstory: Queen Elizabeth married Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh (1947)** *Coldest Thanksgiving in Pgh History ... + What are flavor-blasted Turkeys? The Pelican Project: Nourished by Christ, Serving the Church ... GUESTS Dr Karen Swallow Prior, professor in the English Department, Liberty University, and a senior fellow at Liberty University's Center for Apologetics and Cultural Engagement ... Her latest work is “On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Books ... and ... GUEST Anne Kennedy, author of "Nailed It: 365 Sarcastic Devotionals for Angry and Worn Out People" she blogs everyday at: Preventingrace.com ... Anne lives in upstate NY where she mothers her 6 young children and her husband an Anglican priest ... (The Pelican Project is a guild of women fostering commitment to Christian faith and practice across cultural, denominational, and racial lines) **Condoleeza Rice challenges the NFL to develop more female coaches** The Paradise Fire: One Man’s and One Church’s Story ... GUEST Josh Gallagher ... pastor, Paradise Alliance Church ... he left Paradise last Thursday, initially for a shelter at Neighborhood Church in Chico, CA ... he later learned that his family had lost their home, along with 18 of 21 families on the church’s staff — a proportion that corresponds with the degree of loss across the communitySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.