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As classrooms grow more casual, is something important being lost? This week's Classical Et Cetera tackles the question of formality in both schools and homeschools. We explore why order, decorum, and even dress still matter in a classical education. Along the way, a listener brings us a question about balancing extracurriculars with the homeschool day—and how pursuits like music, art, and physical fitness fit within an ordered life. From playing with purpose to pajama days, we trace how formality shapes not just the classroom, but the character of the student and the culture of learning itself. What We're Reading from This Episode: The Two Gentlemen of Verona - William Shakespeare (Tanya) The Screwtape Letters - C.S. Lewis (Tanya) The Killing Stones - Ann Cleeves (Tanya) Truth Matters - Robert P. George & Cornel West (Tanya) Kristin Lavransdatter - Sigrid Undset (Carrie) The Hound of the Baskervilles - Arthur Conan Doyle (Carrie) From Dawn to Decadence - Jacques Barzun (Martin) Mythology - Edith Hamilton (Martin) Joseph Epstein (Martin) King Lear - William Shakespeare (Jeremy) Macbeth - William Shakespeare (Jeremy)
About the GuestCharlene Thompson is a first grade teacher in her fourth year at Founders Classical Academy in Rogers, Arkansas. She holds a bachelor's degree in Elementary Education from Harding University and is a passionate learner of classical education. She believes in cultivating wisdom and virtue through rich literature, narration, and the development of lifelong habits of attention and expression. Her goal is to help young students grow into thoughtful, articulate, and joyful learners.Show NotesI met Charlene when I led a full-day workshop on narration at Founders Classical Academy in Rogers, Arkansas a few years ago. During a recent classical education conference, Charlene approached me to share how narration was working with her students. The stories she shared were so beautiful that I had to get her on the show to help encourage other teachers and parents about how narration works in the classroom. Some questions that were covered include:What was the process you took to get started in narration--or did you just jump right in?Tell us what happened from the teacher's perspective.What did you notice happening with students' art of attending?How many times a day do you ask the students to narrate? Is it your experience that narration covers critical thinking skills, analysis, and all the standards?Let's talk about the art of narration in math, and some questions to ask.Tell our listeners how you play with narration and some fun things you've done.Would you say something encouraging to other teachers?Do you see a difference in new inexperienced students? How do you help them feel comfortable?Resources, Books, and People MentionedJason BarneyKaren GlassCharlotte MasonThe Thanksgiving Day by Alice DalglieshThe Ugly DucklingHansel and GretelCinderellaNarration: The Voice of the Trivium by Adrienne FreasMathematician, Paul Lockhart math booksThe Little Boy Who Cried Wolf, scripted dramaAesop's Fables Favorite quotation: " Read the best books first"--Henry David Thoreau Book she wishes she had read sooner: The Bible _____________________________________Beautiful Teaching NARRATION CONFERENCE:2025 Online Conference with the Beautiful Teaching Team- Narration: The Art of Learning with Keynote Guest, Jason Barney, October 24-25, 2025 https://beautifulteaching.coursestorm.com/ ★ Support this podcast ★
Young adults today are 1,600% more likely to identify as transgender than people over 50. Every family may not struggle with this issue—but every family will face it. Are you ready? In this critical episode of Refining Rhetoric, host Robert Bortins sits down with Dr. Jeff Myers, President of Summit Ministries and author of the new book Raising Gender Confident Kids, for an unflinching conversation about one of the most pressing challenges facing Christian families today. Dr. Myers reveals why gender ideology isn't just about elevating Pride Month—it's a calculated strategy to tear down the foundations of Western civilization and biblical worldview. What You'll Discover: Why 39% of young adults now identify as LGBTQ—and what's driving this dramatic shift The shocking reality of "transgender recruitment" happening in public schools (and some private schools) How gender ideology functions as an anti-Christ religion with its own evangelism and discipleship steps Age-appropriate conversation strategies for elementary, middle school, and high school students Why middle schoolers are being specifically targeted before they complete puberty How to help your child respond when they can't tell if someone is a boy or a girl The biological truth: 6,500 cataloged differences between males and females—and why they're designed to harmonize Why teaching "Imago Dei" (being made in God's image) is now mission-critical for every Christian family Dr. Myers doesn't sugarcoat the reality: this is a well-funded, strategic assault on the biblical understanding of humanity. But he also offers hope, practical tools, and a pathway for parents to raise children who are confident in God's good design—while showing Christ's love to a generation that's been tragically deceived. Resources: Raising Gender Confident Kids book - genderconfidentkids.com https://www.summit.org/ This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: 2026 Classical Conversations Family Cruise Have you heard? The Classical Conversations 2026 CC Family Cruise will set sail on May 16, 2026. This exciting adventure is open to all CC families and alumni. It will include the National Memory Master Competition, National Commencement, and special CC family activities. Interest is booming with over 800 people interested in cruising with us and cabins are selling out fast! Book your cabin now at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026 Remember, to participate in the CC activities you need to book through the CC group. Grab your sunscreen, your beach bag. and join us on board!
What if homeschooling could feel like discovering Narnia while everyone else is just playing hide and seek? In this inspiring episode of Everyday Educator, Lisa Bailey connects with Janine Bell, Country Coordinator for Classical Conversations in the United Kingdom, for a fascinating conversation about building classical Christian communities across the pond. Janine shares her family's pioneering journey as home educators in a country where most people still think homeschooling is illegal—and how God has used Classical Conversations to transform not just education, but entire family cultures. What You'll Discover: The surprising history of home education in the UK (and why most Brits thought it was against the law!) How Classical Conversations is helping rebuild community and authentic conversation in a culture known for its "stiff upper lip" The story of the UK's first CC graduate and the miraculous provision of classical Christian universities Real barriers facing home educators in Britain—including pending legislation that could restrict parental freedom Why British Christians struggle with the idea that homeschooling might be "hiding their light" (and Janine's powerful response) How God is using "the new dog to teach the old dog" as America shares classical education with its British roots Janine's transparency about her own doubts and discoveries—from making report cards at home to becoming the UK's country coordinator—offers hope to every parent who wonders if they're equipped for this calling. Her passion for seeing families discover the "Narnia" of classical community is absolutely contagious. This episode of Everyday Educator is sponsored by: Judson College At Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, we equip passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace. Experience vibrant community through our unique House System while receiving comprehensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts to make your divine calling affordable. Ready to answer your calling? Apply to Judson College today and step into God's plan for your life. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/
SummaryIn this episode, Shannon Valenzuela and Dr. Merrill Roberts explore the beauty of the quadrivium for the middle school classroom. They discuss the integration of nature studies, mathematics, and science in middle school education, highlighting the importance of play, joy, and sensory learning. The discussion also delves into the relationship between mathematics and beauty, the role of the imagination in learning, and the interconnectedness of disciplines across the curriculum. The conversation concludes with reflections on the importance of arts and music in education and the profound impact of experiencing the night sky on students' understanding of the universe.Topics Covered:The quadrivium and middle school math and scienceBeauty and wonder in math and science educationPlay and joy as pedagogical toolsLearning through the senses and working toward abstraction The quadrivium across the curriculumArts and music are integral to a classical educationThe power of dark skiesToday's Guests:Dr. Merrill Roberts received his Bachelor's in Liberal Arts from Thomas Aquinas College in 2003. He earned his Ph.D. in Physics from The Catholic University of America in 2018, where he has also served as a Lecturer in Physics, teaching multiple courses, including a course in Solar Physics designed for students planning to teach in primary and secondary schools. He worked for over a decade as a researcher at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, MD, where he studied solar coronal transients and performed forward modeling for the Parker Solar Probe mission. Dr. Roberts is a Senior Faculty Consultant for the Institute for Catholic Liberal Education (ICLE), giving workshops and developing curriculum centered around the Quadrivial Arts since 2013, and is also an Associate Fellow at the Boethius Institute, helping with the creative retrieval of the Quadrivium. He combines his passions for nature and education as the Nature Studies teacher at St. Jerome Academy in Hyattsville, MD, where he has instructed 5th through 8th graders since 2010. He is also, along with his wife Elizabeth, the Co-director of Music at St. Jerome Parish, where he strives to emphasize the beauty and truth inherent in the Mass.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction03:27 From NASA to the Classroom06:41 St. Jerome Academy's Model of Education10:44 Experiential Learning and the Senses17:09 Playing with What We Don't Fully Understand24:50 The Relationship Between Questions and Answers39:16 The Quadrivium and the Imagination44:28 The Importance of Music50:19 Experiencing the Night Sky: A Learning Journey55:25 ConclusionUniversity of Dallas Links:Classical Education Master's Program at the University of Dallas: udallas.edu/classical-edSt. Ambrose Center Professional Development for Teachers and Administrators: https://k12classical.udallas.edu/Resources Mentioned in Today's Episode:More on the Quadrivium Retrieval: https://quadriviumretrieval.org/Support the showIf you enjoyed the show, please leave a rating and review — it helps others find us!
You may have heard of Classical Education but do you know what it actually is? To answer this question, we are joined by Doug Sikkema and Jesse Newton, our new friends from Oakhill Christian Academy. We discuss the model and goal of Classical Christian Education and whether this is something that the Reformed schools are missing. We also chat about Oakhill, its s and why you should view Classical Christian Education as a potential option for your children. If you want to learn more about Oakhill, check out oakhillhamilton.ca A BIG THANKS TO OUR SPONSOR, NEERALTA, BUILDERS OF GRAIN STORAGE AND HANDLING EQUIPMENT. BE SURE TO CHECK THEM OUT AT WWW. NEERALTA.COM! To keep up with the podcast, check out our website: https://www.realtalkpodcast.ca/ Follow us on Facebook and Instagram for updates, clips, and more! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ReformedRealTalk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reformedrealtalk/ We'd love to hear from you. Please send us your questions, comments, or other feedback at realtalk@reformedperspective.ca. Thanks for listening! If you liked what you heard, please share this podcast with your family and friends!
What's behind the decline of American democracy—and can education fix it? In this episode of Classical Et Cetera the team discusses why the health of our republic depends not necessarily on politicians, but on teachers, parents, and the formation of virtuous citizens. Modern society often treats the decline of democracy as a political problem, but classical educators know it's an educational one. A free people can only remain free when they know how to govern themselves—and that begins in classrooms, not in Congress. Join us as we explore how classical education cultivates wisdom, virtue, and self-government, and why rebuilding the soul of the nation starts with the minds of the young. Read Mitchell Holley's article "A Democratic Education" right here! https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/a-democratic-education?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=191 You can read Anne of Green Gables too! LEARN MORE https://www.memoriapress.com/curriculum/literature-and-poetry/sixth/anne-of-green-gables-set/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=191 Be ready for Mitchell to finish Third Form Greek! LEARN MORE https://www.memoriapress.com/curriculum/greek/first-form-greek-complete-set/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=191 "It is funny how mortals picture us as putting things into their minds: in reality our best work is done by keeping things out.” READ NOW https://www.memoriapress.com/curriculum/educational-resources/the-screwtape-letters/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=191 Check out our Classical Core Curriculum! LEARN MORE https://www.memoriapress.com/curriculum?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=191 Famous Men of Rome videos now available! BUY NOW https://www.memoriapress.com/curriculum/classical-studies/famous-men-rome/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=191 What We're Reading from This Episode: Various Greek Authors (Mitchell) The Unselected Journals of Emma M. Lion—Beth Brower (Tanya) The Screwtape Letters—C.S. Lewis (Tanya) Truth Matters—Robert P. George & Cornel West (Tanya) A Midsummer Night's Dream—William Shakespeare (Tanya) The Idiot—Fyodor Dostoevsky (Martin) Paideia: The Ideals of Greek Culture: Volume III—Werner Jaeger (Martin)
He had never stepped in front of a camera before. He almost ignored the audition opportunity completely. But when Robert Amaya finally sent in that tape for Courageous, it launched a career that would transform both faith-based filmmaking and his own family forever. In this inspiring episode of Refining Rhetoric, host Robert Bortins sits down with actor, speaker, and mentor Robert Amaya to discuss his journey in faith-based filmmaking and his experience as a Classical Conversations dad. Robert shares the miraculous story of how he landed his breakthrough role in Courageous despite having zero acting experience, and how working with the Kendrick Brothers became a "master class" in biblical manhood that changed his life forever. What You'll Discover: The incredible "courtesy call rejection" that turned into Robert's first movie role Why working on faith-based film sets with the Kendrick and Erwin Brothers is different from Hollywood How Robert's faith journey transformed from church rebellion to using film as a platform for the gospel The void in Christian filmmaking—and what Robert's doing about it through Join Creators Call Practical advice for parents whose kids want to pursue acting (hint: start with children's theater!) Why Robert believes homeschooling through Classical Conversations has given his daughters skills that surpass what he had in 12th grade How CC community provides the support system that eliminates parents' fears of inadequacy The Lancaster Film Initiative—Robert's new nonprofit creating excellence in faith-based films with profit-sharing for all involved Robert's transparency about raising two talented daughters in the entertainment industry while maintaining strong family values and a classical education offers both practical wisdom and genuine encouragement. His motto says it all: "Faith, family, and fun." Resources: https://joincreatorscall.com/ Robert Amaya's IMDb - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3892002/ Robert Amaya's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/realrobertamaya This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by the Classical Learning Cohort: Are you a CC parent or graduate wanting to become a more confident classical educator? Why not sample the CLC by attending a free, online "Experience the CLC" event at classicalconversations.com/cohort. Find a time that fits your schedule.
Saucy stories, moralistic narratives, comic tales, cutting criticism, incisive insights, pilgrims pious and phony alike—just what was Geoffrey Chaucer up to in his provocative Canterbury Tales? Zach Weichbrodt, literature teacher extraordinaire, will help us find out in this friendly guide to Classical Christian Education.
Forget the red pen and grade book—what if the best way to assess your child's learning had nothing to do with tests at all? In this episode of the Everyday Educator, Lisa Bailey sits down with veteran homeschoolers Deb Switzer and Tim Knotts to revolutionize how we think about assessment in classical education. Both seasoned parents and community directors share their hard-won wisdom about moving beyond artifact-grading to truly knowing what our children are learning—and who they're becoming. What You'll Discover: Why conversation trumps testing as the gold standard for assessment How to set meaningful learning goals that look different for each child (even in the same family!) The truth about Blue Book assessments—what they are, how to use them well, and common pitfalls to avoid Practical strategies for assessing younger children through narration and wonder Why assessing virtue and character matters as much as academic milestones How to help students learn to assess themselves—a crucial life skill Whether you're navigating Foundations with littles or guiding a Challenge student through their first Blue Book, this conversation offers both encouragement and concrete tools for the journey. Deb and Tim's transparency about their own learning curves reminds us that we're all growing alongside our children. This episode of the Everyday Educator is sponsored by: Judson College Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, equips passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace while experiencing vibrant community through our unique House System. We're committed to making your divine calling affordable through extensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts, so you can give your life for Christ's cause without overwhelming financial burden. Ready to answer your calling? Find out what makes Judson College experience different. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/
It's a jam packed episode of Roadmap to Heaven. First, Adam is joined by Dan Leonardi to discuss the role Classical Education can play in the formation of our children. Tim Glemkowski shares an invitation to attend the 2026 Leadership Summit from Amazing Parish. Adam offers some reasons to foster devotion to Mary through the Rosary. The episode wraps with some thoughts on the Gospel of the day and how the Rosary can help us live out the message. Download the Covenant Network app today! Pray the Visual Rosary at VisualRosary.org For more information on Covenant Network, visit OurCatholicRadio.org
What does poetry offer that prose cannot? In this week's Classical Et Cetera, we explore how verse builds literacy, memory, and a love of language. Discover how rhythm, structure, and beauty shape the mind and soul, and why poetry remains essential for both personal enrichment and classical education. *What We're Reading* from This Episode: Gerard Manley Hopkins Poetry (Kathy) _Notes from Underground_—Fyodor Dostoevsky (Kathy) _Anne of Green Gables_—L.M. Montgomery (Tanya) _The Two Gentlemen of Verona_—William Shakespeare (Tanya) _Truth Matters_—Robert P. George & Cornel West (Tanya) _The Idiot_—Fyodor Dostoevsky (Martin) _The Glass Bead Game_—Hermann Hesse (Martin)
All you Marrou fans out there may have been wondering, "Where did that fabulous Frenchmen go"? After all, this little podcast has not covered H.I.'s theme since April 1 of the current year. Fitting date? Don't be fooled, Jeff and Dave have not given up on all things ancient education, and this week the guys return to Part II, Chapter IX. In this portion of the larger section, Classical Education in the Hellenistic Age, Marrou is dealing with what he entitles "Lesser Forms". How was the ephebia structured, and how did the architectural forms change to match this? What did the typical syllabus contain, and what of the formation of a canon? What is the connection between thinking great thoughts and walking? Should you look out for roving hygienists in your neighborhood, and can you earn a certificate or award for φιλοπονία (love of industry)? The disscussion next moves on to the "birdcage" center of ancient learning, the Museum (Alexandria, et alia), where MacArthur Fellowship recipients complained about the sluggish wifi and were feted by the Ptolemies. But we digress. Stick around for the closing bit on medicine and vo. tech, and think about sending us your own reflections for episode 200!
Feeling in over your head with homeschooling? You're not alone. Every homeschool parent hits that wall—when the toddler is pulling everything off the shelves, five kids are asking questions at once, and you're wondering if you're failing everyone, including yourself. In this honest and hope-filled conversation, veteran homeschool moms Courtney Bradshaw and Karin Carpenter join host Amy Jones to talk about the seasons when homeschooling feels overwhelming. In this episode, you'll discover: · Why those "in over my head" moments are actually normal (and might even be necessary) · How to recognize when you're spread too thin—and what to do about it · The surprising antidote to homeschool loneliness (hint: it's not just about finding time) · Practical strategies for recalibrating when everything feels like too much · Why celebrating others' victories can sustain you through your own hard days · How to assess whether the problem is your curriculum, your schedule, or your heart Both Courtney (mom of seven, including three adopted from foster care) and Karin (veteran of 15+ years homeschooling four children) share vulnerable stories from their own journeys—the days they wanted to quit, the moments they crashed at Jesus' feet, and the unexpected ways God met them in their weakness. Their wisdom is hard-won and deeply encouraging. This episode of the Everyday Educator is sponsored by: Judson College Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, equips passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace while experiencing vibrant community through our unique House System. We're committed to making your divine calling affordable through extensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts, so you can give your life for Christ's cause without overwhelming financial burden. Ready to answer your calling? Find out what makes Judson College experience different. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/ The Classical Learning Cohort Are you ready to invest in your own education? Would you like to learn alongside others? Check out the Classical Learning Cohort! Learn More! Register for a free online event at www.classicalconversations.com/cohort
SummaryIn this episode, Shannon Valenzuela, Dr. Jeff Lehman, and Dr. Andrew Seeley explore the retrieval of the quadrivium and its significance in classical education, particularly in mathematics and science. They discuss their personal journeys in mathematics, the transformative power of the quadrivium, and the importance of integrating imagination and reason in learning. They emphasize the need for a community of educators to foster a deeper understanding of these subjects, and offer suggestions for teaching. The discussion also touches on the moral implications of education and the beauty inherent in mathematics and the arts.Topics Covered:The creative retrieval of the QuadriviumThe Quadrivium and the formation of the intellect and imaginationThe importance of fellowship among teachersBeauty and structure are integral to the arts and sciences.The Quadrivium and its contribution to moral formationToday's Guests:Jeffrey S. Lehman is co-founder and Dean of Fellows at the Boethius Institute and Professor of Philosophy and Theology and Director of the M.A. in Catholic Education program at the Augustine Institute's Graduate School of Theology. He is the founder and President of the Arts of Liberty Project, a Founding Fellow of the Center for Thomas More Studies, and he has taught at Biola University, Thomas Aquinas College, Hillsdale College, and the University of Dallas. He is the author of numerous publications, including Socratic Conversation: Bringing the Dialogues of Plato and the Socratic Tradition into Today's Classroom.Andrew Seeley is co-founder and President of the Boethius Institute. He also serves as the Director of Advanced Formation for Educators at the Augustine Institute. Over his three decades as a Tutor at Thomas Aquinas College in California, Dr. Seeley taught every subject in its integrated Great Books curriculum. Dr. Seeley co-founded the Institute for Catholic Liberal Education in 2005, where he served as Executive Director for 12 years. He became Executive Director of the Arts of Liberty Project in 2021. He was named the 2023 recipient of the Circe Institute's Paideia Prize.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction to the Quadrivium and the Boethius Institute03:21 The Creative Retrieval of the Quadrivium07:16 The Importance of the Quadrivium in Classical Education12:09 Transformative Experiences in Teaching the Quadrivium16:27 Understanding the Four Arts of the Quadrivium20:52 The Role of Imagination in the Quadrivium23:23 The Interplay of Reason and Imagination33:46 Mathematics and Moral Formation39:18 Reimagining Mathematics Education43:38 Favorite Resources 48:11 ConclusionUniversity of Dallas Links:Classical Education Master's Program at the University of Dallas: udallas.edu/classical-edSt. Ambrose Center Professional Development for Teachers and Administrators: https://k12classical.udallas.edu/Resources Mentioned in Today's Episode:More on the Quadrivium Retrieval: https://quadriviumretrieval.org/Francis Su, Mathematics for Human FlourishingStratford Caldecott, Beauty for Truth's SakeSupport the showIf you enjoyed the show, please leave a rating and review — it helps others find us!
On this episode of Anchored, Soren is joined by Andrew Smalley, head of Veritas Classical School in St. Augustine, FL and board member of the advisory council for the Institute for Classical Education at Flagler College. They explore the power of making discipleship the primary goal of Christian education and the deep impact that it leaves on students. They discuss Veritas Classical School and the process of building up a school that aims to finish the trivium.
In this episode, Andrew Pudewa and Julie Walker talk with Donahue Academy’s Dr. Marc Snyder, principal, and Deacon Edward Watson, assistant principal for curriculum and instruction. They share how and why Donahue Academy has chosen to use IEW, why classical education is growing, and how the IEW Schools Department can assist schools with implementing the Structure and Style® methodology. Referenced Materials Donahue Academy Dr. Marc Snyder, Ed.D. Deacon Edward Watson, M.S.E Teacher Training Method Options: Live On-Site Professional Development Structure and Style for Students “Writing across the Curriculum and Why It Matters” Theme-Based Writing Lessons Why Donahue Academy Chose IEW video If you have questions for Andrew, send them to podcast@IEW.comPerhaps your question will be answered at the next Ask Andrew Anything (AAA). If you have questions about IEW products or classes, contact customer service at 800.856.5815 or info@IEW.com
Why does writing things down matter? In this episode of Classical Et Cetera, we dive into journaling, commonplace books, and note-taking tips within a classical education. From how to properly journal in an academic setting to how to use a journal for personal and self growth, we discuss the benefits of good handwriting, the value of writing by hand vs typing, and why keeping a commonplace book—or "Vade Mecum"—helps students and adults remember and reflect. We share practical advice on academic journal writing, how to mark a book, and how classical educators guide students from simple note-taking in the early grades to more independent habits in high school. Plus, we touch on classical preschool readiness activities and how parents can instill a love of books, build fine motor skills, and nurture reading habits from the very beginning. Join the conversation and discover why journaling and note-taking remain timeless tools for learning and growth! *What We're Reading* from This Episode: _Anne of Green Gables_—L.M. Montgomery (Tanya) _The Unselected Journals of Emma M. Lion_—Beth Brower (Tanya) _Persuasion_—Jane Austen (Tanya) _Boone: A Biography_—Robert Morgan (Paul) _The Big Sleep_—Raymond Chandler (Martin)
What if the virtue we've been taught to prize above all others—empathy—has become a weapon that's destroying our families, churches, and society? In this thought-provoking episode of Refining Rhetoric, host Robert Bortins sits down with Dr. Joe Rigney, author of the controversial new book "The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and Its Counterfeits." Dr. Rigney, who serves as Fellow of Theology at New St. Andrews College and is a pastor at Christ's Church, makes a bold argument that will challenge everything you think you know about compassion. Using the powerful analogy of someone drowning in quicksand, Dr. Rigney distinguishes between biblical compassion—which reaches out to help while remaining anchored to truth—and what he calls "untethered empathy," which jumps into the pit with both feet, creating two drowning victims instead of one. This counterfeit virtue, he argues, has been weaponized across cultural battlegrounds from immigration and abortion to the transgender movement, demanding that we validate feelings regardless of truth or moral consequences. The conversation explores how this emotional manipulation has infiltrated churches, schools, and homes through Social Emotional Learning curricula, creating what Dr. Rigney calls "the institutionalization of the pity party." From the redefinition of marriage to the mutilation of confused children in the name of "gender-affirming care," he traces how untethered empathy leads through a predictable progression: pity to anger to cruelty—all while flying the banner of compassion. Resources: https://x.com/joe_rigney https://canonpress.com/products/the-sin-of-empathy This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by the Classical Learning Cohort: Are you a CC parent or graduate wanting to become a more confident classical educator? Why not sample the CLC by attending a free, online "Experience the CLC" event at classicalconversations.com/cohort. Find a time that fits your schedule.
Ever wonder why some homeschool families seem to have it all figured out while others are still drowning in chaos weeks into the school year? The secret isn't perfect planning—it's finding your groove. Join Lisa Bailey and seasoned homeschool veteran Jennifer Hester for a candid, rapid-fire conversation about what it really takes to get into the homeschool groove. Jennifer brings over a decade of classical education experience as both a parent and tutor, shepherding her own kids from foundations through Challenge levels while pursuing her doctorate. You'll discover the real reason community day leaves everyone exhausted (hint: it's not just you), Jennifer's genius crock-pot lunch hack that will change your community day forever, and why the jump to Challenge levels is harder on parents than students. Jennifer shares her car ride conversation strategy that unlocks deeper connections with your kids and explains how letting go of elaborate lesson plans actually made her a better tutor. The conversation covers which grade transitions hit families the hardest and how to ease the adjustment, along with honest insights about everything from forgotten shoes to flashcard drawers. This isn't your typical "homeschool perfectly" advice. Instead, Jennifer proves that finding your groove isn't about perfection—it's about creating sustainable rhythms that work for your unique family. This episode of the Everyday Educator is sponsored by: Judson College At Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, we equip passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace. Experience vibrant community through our unique House System while receiving comprehensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts to make your divine calling affordable. Ready to answer your calling? Apply to Judson College today and step into God's plan for your life. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/ 2026 Classical Conversations Family Cruise Have you heard? The Classical Conversations 2026 CC Family Cruise will set sail on May 16, 2026. This exciting adventure is open to all CC families and alumni. It will include the National Memory Master Competition, National Commencement, and special CC family activities. Interest is booming with over 800 people interested in cruising with us and cabins are selling out fast! Book your cabin now at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026 Remember, to participate in the CC activities you need to book through the CC group. Grab your sunscreen, your beach bag. and join us on board!
In this episode, hear from Brian Polk, Director of Accreditation at the Society for Classical Education. Learn about how SCL is doing accreditation with a view to helping classical schools flourish. Find out more about what it looks like to have a visiting team at your school and steps you can take to explore accreditation through SCL.Links from this episode:SCL Accreditation webpagePrevious episode: AccreditationThe Educational Renaissance Podcast is a production of Educational Renaissance where we promote a rebirth of ancient wisdom for the modern era. We seek to inspire educators by fusing the best of modern research with the insights of the great philosophers of education. Join us in the great conversation and share with a friend or colleague to keep the renaissance spreading.Take a deeper dive into training resources produced by Educational Renaissance such as Dr. Patrick Egan's new book entitled Training the Prophetic Voice available now through Amazon.
In the aftermath of tragedy, the internet becomes a breeding ground for speculation, conspiracy theories, and misinformation—but how do we navigate these waters wisely? Cold case detective J. Warner Wallace returns to Refining Rhetoric to discuss the recent shooting of Charlie Kirk, offering crucial insights on distinguishing between what we can know from public information versus unfounded theories that spread online. Wallace explains why detectives withhold information during investigations, how to evaluate claims about shooting feasibility and evidence, and why complexity isn't usually the answer in criminal cases. The conversation moves beyond the specifics to address deeper questions about identity, martyrdom, and how our worldview shapes our response to violence. Wallace emphasizes that Charlie's identity was rooted in Christ first, with his political views flowing from that foundation. The episode concludes with practical advice for parents on helping children process tragedy and ground their identity in something transcendent rather than political or cultural groups. Wallace also discusses his new graphic novel "Case Files: Murder and Meaning" co-written with his son Jimmy, which explores themes of identity and human value through a criminal investigation narrative. Resources: https://coldcasechristianity.com/ This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: 2026 Classical Conversations Family Cruise Have you heard? The Classical Conversations 2026 CC Family Cruise will set sail on May 16, 2026. This exciting adventure is open to all CC families and alumni. It will include the National Memory Master Competition, National Commencement, and special CC family activities. Interest is booming with over 800 people interested in cruising with us and cabins are selling out fast! Book your cabin now at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026 Remember, to participate in the CC activities you need to book through the CC group. Grab your sunscreen, your beach bag. and join us on board!
What comes after Classical Conversations? If you've loved the journey of learning alongside your children but wonder where they can continue growing in faith and academics, this conversation is for you. Join Lisa as she explores Judson College with Director of College Life Jake Hatfield and CC graduate Elinor Taylor. Discover how this small North Carolina college creates a seamless bridge from Classical Conversations to higher education through their Great Books program, where students wrestle with Augustine, Dante, and Aquinas in seminar-style discussions. Elinor shares how her CC foundation in memorization, writing, and Socratic dialogue prepared her to thrive in college, while Jake explains their unique house system that builds lifelong community around their mission to "equip students to give their lives for the cause of Christ in the church, among the nations, and in every aspect of society." Whether your student dreams of ministry, missions, or the marketplace, learn how Judson's five C's (calling, confession, curriculum, community, and cost) might be the perfect next chapter for your family's educational adventure. This episode of Everyday Educator is sponsored by: Judson College At Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, we equip passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace. Experience vibrant community through our unique House System while receiving comprehensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts to make your divine calling affordable. Ready to answer your calling? Apply to Judson College today and step into God's plan for your life. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/
Why do students in classical education memorize all 70 stanzas of Thomas Babington Macaulay's Horatius at the Bridge? In this episode of Classical Et Cetera, we explore one of the most demanding—and most rewarding—academic challenges that we give our students: the recitation of Horatius. We trace the story of Horatius and its place in Roman legend, consider why Winston Churchill himself memorized the poem, and explain how this tradition became the "Winston Churchill Award" for our students today. Along the way, we reflect on how memory work builds courage, confidence, and leadership, shaping students to take on challenges far beyond the classroom. This conversation also looks at why classical Christian education prizes memorization as “mental furniture,” especially in an age of Google and smartphones when it is tempting to outsource our minds. From ancient Roman heroism to modern homeschool recitations, Horatius at the Bridge shows why memory work remains central to classical education and why it continues to inspire both students and families. Purchase our Horatius at the Bridge Set today! https://www.memoriapress.com/curriculum/classical-studies/horatius-bridge/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=187 Read the article from former Assistant Secretary of State, Robert B. Charles: https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/horatius-bridge-0/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=187 What We're Reading from This Episode: The Idiot—Fyodor Dostoevsky (Martin) Men Against the Sea—Charles Bernard Nordhoff (Martin) The Unselected Journals of Emma M. Lion—Beth Brower (Tanya) Education of a Wandering Man—Louis L'Amour (Paul) Around the World in Eighty Days—Marian Leighton (Paul) The Human Factor—Graham Greene (Paul)
Can you really do Classical Conversations without all the technology? What does homeschooling look like when you're juggling a full-time job? And how do you prepare for a successful CC year without losing your mind over the summer? Join Kelli Wilt and Lisa Bailey in this special Q&A episode of Everyday Educator! Drawing from over two decades of homeschooling experience, Lisa tackles real questions from the CC community about memory work without technology, summer preparation for a successful year, navigating upper-level students, homeschooling as a working parent, and overcoming first-generation homeschooler fears. This candid conversation offers practical wisdom for both new and seasoned classical educators, emphasizing relationship-building, flexibility, and trusting the journey. Whether you're just starting out or transitioning to challenge levels, you'll find encouragement and actionable advice for your classical homeschool adventure. This episode of Everyday Educator is sponsored by Judson College: At Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, we equip passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace. Experience vibrant community through our unique House System while receiving comprehensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts to make your divine calling affordable. Ready to answer your calling? Apply to Judson College today and step into God's plan for your life. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/
Charlie Kirk was the kind of person who remembered your name even after meeting you just once at a crowded event. Robert joins Dr. Owen Anderson, professor at Arizona State University and faculty advisor for the Turning Point USA chapter, for a heartfelt discussion following the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Dr. Anderson shares personal memories of Charlie as "America's Socrates" - a genuine, friendly debater who engaged with students across the political spectrum on college campuses. The conversation explores the radicalization happening at universities, the concerning normalization of ideologies like DEI and transgenderism, and how parents can better prepare their children for the intellectual challenges they'll face in higher education. Dr. Anderson discusses his own legal battles with mandatory DEI training at ASU and provides insight into the hostile environment facing conservative voices on campus. The episode concludes with reflections on Charlie's legacy as a Christian martyr and how his example should inspire more believers to engage courageously in cultural debates. Resources: Dr. Anderson's Substack: https://drowenanderson.substack.com/
Classical Christian schools have inspiring goals for their students and offer a stunning curriculum of Homer, Plato, Dante, Shakespeare, and many more great books. But our education won't work without good teachers. How do we spot a good teacher? How can teachers become better? And what can parents do to help? Dr. Chris Perrin, a leading figure in the Classical Christian education movement, joins the podcast to help us find out, in this friendly guide to Classical Christian Education. Click here to learn more about Dr. Perrin's new book, The Good Teacher: Ten Key Pedagogical Principles That Will Transform Your Teaching.
AMDG. Kolbe podcast team member and teacher Gwynith DeMonte knows exactly what episodes you should be listening to during the back-to-school season. Whether you're simply curious about homeschooling or are a homeschool student yourself, Gwynith has the perfect catalog of episodes to give you all the information you need. In addition to offering her Kolbecast recommendations, Gwynith discusses her experience growing up in a homeschooling household, including the courses that have (unexpectedly!) served her the best in her college and post-college life. Lastly, Gwynith gives some advice to new students, sharing her takeaways from this year's teacher training and her hopes for the Asynchronous courses this year. Enjoy the episode, Gwynith Learn more about Kolbe's asynchronous courses. Related Kolbecast episodes: 238 Accompaniment, Hope, Integration, and Resilience with Pat Millea 250 Made for Relationship with Kenna Millea 256 An Education That Reflects God's Beauty and 257 Integrated Catholic, Classical Education in Middle & High School 258 Seeking, Finding, and Building Community 247 Lightbulb Moments for Young Readers 227 Sensory Awareness & Problem Solving with occupational therapist Caitlin Russ 230 A Multi-Pronged Approach to College Prep 244 Summer School Memories and other episodes about college and with our college partners 226 Cultivating Habits of Excellence with Superhabits author Dr. Andrew Abela 123 A Change of the Ages with Msgr. James Shea 235 The Disposition of Pilgrimage with Joan Watson 176 The Agenda Is to Grow and 254 Freedom from Anxiety with Art & Laraine Bennett 255 Family Life as Liturgy with Dr. Greg Popcak 260 Flow & Connection through Learning and 261 Make It about Relationship with Lisa Popcak 236 Next Steps & New Chapters with Belinda Terro Mooney 188 Challenges as Opportunities and 219 The Upside of Anxiety wth Dr. Kevin Majeres Have questions or suggestions for future episodes or a story of your own experience that you'd like to share? We'd love to hear from you! Send your thoughts to podcast@kolbe.org and be a part of the Kolbecast odyssey. We'd be grateful for your feedback! Please share your thoughts with us via this Kolbecast survey! The Kolbecast is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and most podcast apps. By leaving a rating and review in your podcast app of choice, you can help the Kolbecast reach more listeners. The Kolbecast is also on Kolbe's YouTube channel (audio only with subtitles). Using the filters on our website, you can sort through the episodes to find just what you're looking for. However you listen, spread the word about the Kolbecast!
What if the "chaos" of homeschooling multiple children is actually the secret to better learning? Two experienced homeschool moms with 7 and 8 children respectively share their hard-won wisdom on successfully educating large families. Courtney and Sarah break down the myths about homeschooling multiple children and reveal practical strategies for managing different ages, handling the chaos of littles during lessons, and creating a rhythm (not rigid schedule) that works. From filling little cups first thing in the morning to empowering older siblings as learning mentors, they offer concrete solutions for common challenges like toddlers climbing on tables during grammar lessons and juggling individual needs without losing your sanity. Whether you have two kids or ten, you'll discover why doing fewer things well beats trying to recreate separate grade-level classrooms at home, and how the one-room schoolhouse model actually makes learning more natural and effective for everyone. This episode of the Everyday Educator is sponsored by Judson College: Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, equips passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace while experiencing vibrant community through our unique House System. We're committed to making your divine calling affordable through extensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts, so you can give your life for Christ's cause without overwhelming financial burden. Ready to answer your calling? Find out what makes Judson College experience different. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/
On this week's Classical Et Cetera, Memoria Press takes on one of our most common questions in classical Christian education: Why should Christians study paganism at all? We explore how to approach pagan philosophy, literature, and Greek mythology in the classroom, and why these texts still matter for students learning within the tradition of Christianity. From Plato and Aristotle to Paul at the Areopagus, we consider how pagan authors asked the right questions—and how the Bible is where we ultimately get the answers. Whether you're a homeschool parent, a teacher, or simply curious about classical education, this conversation will help you see how pagan works can be taught with discernment, why they remain part of a Memoria Press curriculum, and how to read them in light of the truth of Christianity. Read "Why Should Christians Read the Pagan Classics" from our founder, Cheryl Lowe: https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/why-should-christians-read-pagan-classics/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=185 *What We're Reading* from This Episode: _The Unselected Journals of Emma M. Lion_—Beth Brower (Tanya) _The Human Factor_—Graham Greene (Paul) _Around the World in Eighty Days_—Jules Verne (Paul) _The Idiot_—Fyodor Dostoevsky (Martin)
What if you discovered you have more religious freedom right now than at any point in your lifetime—but nobody told you? In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert sits down with Kelly Shackelford, President and CEO of First Liberty Institute, to discuss the remarkable string of religious freedom victories at the Supreme Court that most Americans don't even know happened. Shackelford, a constitutional scholar who has argued and won multiple cases before the Supreme Court, breaks down four major religious liberty wins achieved in just 13 months, including the landmark Coach Kennedy case that overturned 50 years of anti-religious precedent. Key topics covered: How the Supreme Court restored religious freedom protections in the workplace and schools What these victories mean for Christians, business owners, and educators Practical guidance on exercising religious rights at work and in public spaces The truth about what pastors can and cannot say from the pulpit regarding politics Why millions of Christian voters staying home could change election outcomes Resources available at FirstLiberty.org for understanding your religious freedom rights Shackelford emphasizes that Americans now have more religious freedom than they've had in their lifetime, but many don't realize the extent of their restored rights. This episode provides essential insights for anyone wanting to understand and exercise their constitutional religious liberties. Resources: https://firstliberty.org/ This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by the Classical Leanring Cohort: Are you a CC parent or graduate wanting to become a more confident classical educator? Why not sample the CLC by attending a free, online "Experience the CLC" event at classicalconversations.com/cohort. Find a time that fits your schedule.
Ever wish you could sit down with a homeschool graduate and ask: "What do you wish someone had told you?" Here's that conversation. In this episode, host Lisa Bailey interviews a recent Classical Conversations graduate who completed the entire program. This candid conversation reveals the unvarnished truth about homeschooling's challenges and triumphs from someone who lived it. The discussion covers essential wisdom about procrastination, time management, and learning to take ownership of your education. Listeners hear about the notorious Challenge B year when parent-child relationships are tested, the moment when all the pieces of classical education finally connect, and how tools like anti-charts and logical thinking continue serving graduates in real-world situations. For parents questioning their educational investment and students feeling overwhelmed by Challenge program responsibilities, this conversation provides both encouragement and practical strategies drawn from lived experience navigating the full classical education journey. This episode of Everyday Educator is sponsored by the Classical Learning Cohort and Judson College: Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, equips passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace while experiencing vibrant community through our unique House System. We're committed to making your divine calling affordable through extensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts, so you can give your life for Christ's cause without overwhelming financial burden. Ready to answer your calling? Find out what makes Judson College experience different. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/ Are you a CC parent or graduate wanting to become a more confident classical educator? Why not sample the CLC by attending a free, online "Experience the CLC" event at classicalconversations.com/cohort. Find a time that fits your schedule.
Send us a text"Παιδεία found its realization in παιδεραστία." This is how Henri-Irénée Marrou characterizes the relationship between paideia and pederasty. The latter fulfilles the former. Indeed, few things were so distinctively Greek as their love for boys. Thus a close relationship between an older man and an adolescent was, for centuries, the definitive form of education in Greece. Xenophon and Plutarch famously protested that in Sparta, sexual touch between men and boys was forbidden, but modern historians are not so sure. In this episode, Jonathan and Ryan read and discuss "Pederasty in Classical Education," the third chapter of Marrou's A History of Education in Antiquity.Henri-Irénée Marrou's A History of Education in Antiquity: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780299088149Xenophon's Constitution of the Spartans: https://cmuntz.hosted.uark.edu/texts/xenophon/constitution-of-the-spartans.htmlPlutarch's Instituta Laconica: https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Moralia/Instituta_Laconica*.htmlPaul Cartledge's Spartan Reflections: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780520231245Michel Foucault's The History of Sexuality: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780679724698Mary Eberstadt's Primal Screams: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9781599475851Plato's Symposium: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780521295239New Humanists is brought to you by the Ancient Language Institute: https://ancientlanguage.com/Links may have referral codes, which earn us a commission at no additional cost to you. We encourage you, when possible, to use Bookshop.org for your book purchases, an online bookstore which supports local bookstores.Music: Save Us Now by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
Who were the Founding Fathers — and what is the education that shaped them? In this episode of _Classical Et Cetera_ , we explore the rigorous classical education that influenced America's founders and the birth of a nation. From learning Latin and Greek to studying history and literature, the Founders gained the wisdom and discipline to lead with courage and conviction. We discuss what their colonial education looked like, why it mattered, and how modern schools and families can recover the same focus and depth. Join the conversation and discover what classical learning can offer today's America! *What We're Reading* from This Episode: _The Hobbit_—J.R.R. Tolkien (Paul) _The Human Factor_—Graham Greene (Paul) _The Father's Tale_—Michael D. O'Brien (Tanya) _The Iliad_—Homer (Martin) _The Idiot_—Fyodor Dostoevsky (Martin) Vulgate Set - https://www.memoriapress.com/curriculum/latin/selections-from-the-vulgate-set/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=184 Martin's article - https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/classical-education-founding-fathers/?utm_source=PodBean&utm_medium=CETC&utm_campaign=184
Before government schools, America had 95% literacy. Now it's 35%. What if everything you've been told about "fixing" education is actually designed to make it worse? Robert teams up with award-winning journalist and CEO of Liberty Sentinel, Alex Newman, to announce their explosive new book "Woke and Weaponized" - a deep dive into how Karl Marx's ideas infiltrated American education and what parents can do about it. From Robert Owen's occult origins to the post-WWI turning point that handed our children to the state, this episode reveals the shocking history behind today's educational crisis and offers hope for families seeking true educational freedom. Resources: https://libertysentinel.org/ This episode of Refining Rhetoric is sponsored by: CC Plus Concurrent Enrollment: The Concurrent Enrollment Program is a flexible opportunity to earn college credit from an accredited Christian university while honoring homeschool families and program parameters contained in the Challenge Guide. Your student can remain in community while earning college credit for the work they are already doing which means community and mentoring stay in place while practicing the skills of learning through college! Register now or learn more by going to classicalconversationsplus.com/concurrent-enrollment-program.
Does Latin Still Matter? Why Parents Should Care About This “Dead” LanguageLatin is often dismissed as outdated or impractical - especially in an age of Google Translate and global languages like Spanish or Mandarin. So why do classical Christian schools keep it at the center of their curriculum? In this episode, host Davies Owens sits down with Dr. Chad Kim - author, pastor, and long-time Latin teacher - to unpack the surprising relevance of Latin today.Together they explore:Why Latin is more than a “dead language” and remains the bedrock of Western civilizationHow learning Latin strengthens logic, attention, and critical thinkingThe way Latin opens doors to Scripture, church history, and the Great BooksWhy wrestling with Latin builds the discipline and fortitude our distracted culture desperately needsHow Dr. Kim's new curriculum brings joy, depth, and even prayer into Latin study
Feeling overwhelmed by homeschool chaos? You're not alone—and there's hope! Delise and Lisa chat with experienced homeschool mom Emily Phillip about the reality of creating sustainable rhythms for your homeschool family. Whether you're managing littles or navigating the challenge years, discover practical strategies for building routines that work—from morning flags that anchor your day to teaching teens independence through scheduling. Learn why "anything worth doing is worth doing poorly at first," how to give yourself grace during overwhelming seasons, and why slowing down might be the secret ingredient your family needs. Perfect for moms at every stage of the homeschool journey who want to move from surviving to thriving. Resources: Emily's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@emilythehomeschooler Blessings and Motherhood episode with Emily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJGep_dcueU This episode of Everyday Educator is sponsored by: Judson College: Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, equips passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace while experiencing vibrant community through our unique House System. We're committed to making your divine calling affordable through extensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts, so you can give your life for Christ's cause without overwhelming financial burden. Ready to answer your calling? Find out what makes Judson College experience different. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/ CC Plus Concurrent Enrollment: The Concurrent Enrollment Program is a flexible opportunity to earn college credit from an accredited Christian university while honoring homeschool families and program parameters contained in the Challenge Guide. Your student can remain in community while earning college credit for the work they are already doing which means community and mentoring stay in place while practicing the skills of learning through college! Register now or learn more by going to classicalconversationsplus.com/concurrent-enrollment-program.
SummaryIn this conversation, Shannon Valenzuela interviews Dr. Joe Carlson, a University of Dallas alumnus and translator of Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy. They discuss his journey into the world of Dante, focusing on the personal nature of translation and the importance of delight in education. He emphasizes the role of enthusiasm in teaching, the art of translation, and the significance of medieval cosmology in understanding both literature and the sacramental nature of reality. The conversation also explores the distinction between contemplation and analysis in education, advocating for a more immersive and engaging approach to teaching classical texts.Resources & Links:Dr. Carlson's Dante translation and curriculum: dantepoem.comDr. Carlson's editions of John Milton's Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained: miltonpoem.comTopics Covered:Delight as the key to a lasting educational experienceThe process of translating The Divine ComedyMedieval cosmology and the sacramental nature of realityPractical tips on teaching epic worksPractical tips on teaching translation in language coursesToday's Guest:Dr. Joe Carlson lives in Moscow, Idaho with his wife and son. He graduated from New Saint Andrews College with a BA in Liberal Arts in Culture, and from the University of Dallas with an MA in Humanities and a PhD in Literature. He has managed a chain of coffee shops, published (micro) epic poetry, co-pastored a church, co-founded a university campus ministry, and taught many different kinds of classes over the years. Currently, he is an adjunct lecturer at New Saint Andrews College, a humanities teacher with Logos Online School, and a curriculum developer at Roman Roads Press. He is the author of, among other things, the Dante Curriculum, which includes an original blank verse translation of The Divine Comedy, published by Roman Roads.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction to Joe Carlson and His Work08:11 Delight as a Key Ingredient in Learning17:46 The Teacher as a Leading Learner21:39 The Process of Translation and Its Challenges31:32 The Influence of C.S. Lewis and Medieval Cosmology38:47 Practical Tips for Teaching Dante45:02 Contemplation and Immersion in Teaching Literary TextsUniversity of Dallas Links:Classical Education Master's Program at the University of Dallas: udallas.edu/classical-edSt. Ambrose Center Professional Development for Teachers and Administrators: https://k12classical.udallas.edu/Books Mentioned in Today's EpisodeDante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy, translated by Dr. Joe Carlson.John Milton, Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained, edited by Dr. Joe Carlson.C.S. Lewis, "Meditation in a Tool Shed"C.S. Lewis, The Voyage of the Dawn TreaderMichael Ward, Planet NarniaSupport the showIf you enjoyed the show, please leave a rating and review — it helps others find us!
It is back-to-school time and the co-hosts, Korey Maas (Lutheran), Miles Smith (Anglican), and D. G. Hart (Presbyterian) are getting ready for classes. This makes it a good time to reflect on the kind of education that nurtures confessional Protestant piety and practice -- for both ministers and church members. The recording starts with each member of the "broadcasting team" talking about upcoming classes at Hillsdale College and how we situate ourselves within the framework of classical education, the "Great Books," and liberal education. From there the conversation explores the relationship between confessional Protestantism and the kind of learning that at least pastors need, which points back to ties between the Reformation and the Renaissance, which then leads to the Renaissance's recovery of ancient Greek and Latin authors and the way Humanism cultivated Protestant understandings of education. At the very end comes some commentary on whether the Bible qualifies as a "Great Book" or is merely a "Good Book." The co-hosts "did the reading" for this discussion which included a critique of "The Great Books," a review of a book about the Bible and classical education, and college students on the appeal of liberal education. No sponors this episode. The Pudcast transcends money.
Does the thought of preparing for a new homeschool year feel overwhelming? You're not alone! Join host Lisa Bailey with seasoned homeschool veterans Amy Jones (22 years of experience!) and Courtney Bradshaw (Academic Advisor and mom to seven) as they share battle-tested strategies for launching your Foundations year with confidence. From setting realistic family learning goals to creating peaceful learning spaces, managing supplies for multiple children, and transitioning kids from summer mode back to academics—these moms reveal the secrets that can make or break your homeschool year. Whether you're a first-time Foundations family or returning with a new mix of ages, this conversation is packed with practical wisdom you can implement right now. This episode of Everyday Educator is sponsored by Judson College and Classical Conversations Plus Undergraduate Program Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, equips passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace while experiencing vibrant community through our unique House System. We're committed to making your divine calling affordable through extensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts, so you can give your life for Christ's cause without overwhelming financial burden. Ready to answer your calling? Find out what makes Judson College experience different. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/ Classical Conversations Plus Undergraduate Program Your Purpose Made Approachable… Whether that is a degree, a discipline, or a deeper understanding of interests, CC Plus Undergrad can help. Our unique relationship with Southeastern University provides multiple opportunities and options for enrolling as a degree-seeking student at Southeastern University, which allows for a continued pursuit of lifelong learning, making passion and purpose approachable whether you are a CC graduate or CC parent. To learn more about the CC Plus Undergrad Program or to begin your journey of pursuing your next season of learning, go to www.classicalconversationsplus.com/undergraduate-program
About the GuestDr. John Ahern holds a PhD from Princeton University in historical musicology. He currently teaches at The Wilberforce School as an Upper School Humanities and Latin instructor. He is also faculty at the Theopolis Institute and directs their Te Deum Fellows Program in Liturgical Music. His writings on a variety of topics have appeared in First Things, Ad Fontes, The Lamp, Mere Orthodoxy, Eidolon, the Theopolis Institute blog, and the CiRCE Institute blog. He lives in New Jersey with his wife and four children.Show NotesJohn Ahern has successfully implemented the practice of keeping a commonplace book with his students. In this episode he explains why it is an important practice, how to create time to do it, and how to establish best practices in a school setting. If you have wondered how to succeed at keeping a commonplace book, this episode is incredibly practical and will help you confidently get started in this beautiful practice. Resources MentionedLink to the Circe Institute article: https://circeinstitute.org/blog/how-to-make-a-commonplace-book/ Notebooks the school uses: https://www.leuchtturm1917.us/classic-notebooks-1.html Also: https://www.amazon.com/Leuchturm1917-Journal-Hardcover-Notebook-Numbered/dp/B09T75BG8L?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1The Book of Memory by Mary CarruthersLeisure the Basis of Culture by Josef PieperBleak House by Charles DickensTo Kill a MockingbirdIsaac Newton's Common Place Notebook19C Common Place NotebooksBleak House by Charles DickensA Man for All Seasons by Robert BoltAuthors MentionedCharlotte MasonPlatoAristotleSt AugustineHomerQuintillionCiceroRomansDostoevskyDanteAquinasJohn Winthrop_____________________________________Beautiful Teaching online courses & narration conference:BT online webinars, interactive courses, and book studies registration: https://beautifulteaching.coursestorm.com/2025 Online Conference with the Beautiful Teaching Team- Narration: The Art of Learning with Keynote Guest, Jason Barney, October 24-25, 2025Reading Josef Pieper with Dr. Fred Putnam will take place on Thursday evenings Sept-Dec. Space is very limited. This is a seminar experience. Interaction with Dr. Putnam is essential for this online course. If you are interested in having this immersive experience with him, you can enroll here: https://beautifulteaching.coursestorm.com/course/reading-josef-pieper-with-fred-putnam ★ Support this podcast ★
We will be back next week with a new episode! In the meantime, enjoy this re-release of our episode featuring Dr. Anika Prather.Show notes: Dr. Prather's WebsiteDr. Anika's Suggested Authors to Include in Your Study of the Cannon: Octavia Butler Anna Julia Cooper James Baldwin Martin Luther King Corretta Scott King Ralph EllisonRichard Wright Alain Locke Langston Hughes Carter G. Woodson Other Harlem Renaissance Author (00:00) - Intro with Dr. Anika Prather (02:22) - Is there Eurocentrism in classical education? (09:01) - Finding a better word than "eurocentrism" (12:33) - Marxist philosophy in classical education (15:42) - How to get to synthesis (38:58) - Classical education is understanding the human condition (43:02) - Wrapping up (43:21) - Outro
Are you staring at that Essentials schedule feeling somewhere between curious and completely overwhelmed? You're definitely not alone! Whether you're a nervous first-timer wondering how your little one will survive a full day at community, or you're coming back for round two, this episode is your roadmap to Essentials success. Join host Kelli as she sits down with two CC veterans who've walked this path: Ginny, fresh from her first year juggling both tutoring AND parenting an Essentials student (spoiler: she survived!), and Lanelle, a 20-year CC veteran who now helps develop the very curriculum your kids will be learning. Together, they tackle the big questions every parent asks: What mindset shifts do I need to make? How do I prep without stressing? What does this actually look like at home? And most importantly—how do I hold it all with grace when the tears come (and they might)? Packed with practical tips, honest stories, and that "easy plus one" wisdom that will change your whole approach, this conversation will leave you feeling equipped, encouraged, and maybe even excited about the Essentials journey ahead. This episode of Everyday Educator is sponsored by: Judson College and 2026 Classical Conversations Family Cruise At Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, we equip passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace. Experience vibrant community through our unique House System while receiving comprehensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts to make your divine calling affordable. Ready to answer your calling? Apply to Judson College today and step into God's plan for your life. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/ Have you heard? The Classical Conversations 2026 CC Family Cruise will set sail on May 16, 2026. This exciting adventure is open to all CC families and alumni. It will include the National Memory Master Competition, National Commencement, and special CC family activities. Interest is booming with over 800 people interested in cruising with us and cabins are selling out fast! Book your cabin now at www.classicalconversations.com/cruise-2026 Remember, to participate in the CC activities you need to book through the CC group. Grab your sunscreen, your beach bag. and join us on board!
SummaryIn this conversation, Shannon Valenzuela interviews Mandi Gerth, the author of the new book Thoroughness & Charm: Cultivating the Habits of a Classical Classroom. They explore the principles of classical education, focusing on the importance of classroom management, the role of joy and order in learning, and the integration of the imagination and the intellect. They discuss how embodiment and enculturation can enhance the learning experience and delve into the significance of liturgy in the classroom, the concept of ordered loves, and the teacher's role as a lifelong learner. The discussion also touches on insights from Machiavelli regarding classroom management and the importance of establishing authority while fostering a love for learning.Resources & Links:Mandi's Website: https://mrsgerthteaches.com/Thoroughness and Charm - CiRCE InstituteTopics Covered:Embodiment and enculturation in classical educationClassroom managementThe formation of the intellect, the imagination, and the heartThe importance of joy and order in educationClassroom liturgies and catechismsGuest:Mandi Gerth is a teacher and classical education consultant who lives in Dallas, Texas. She currently serves as the Administrative Director of the Cowan Center at the University of Dallas. She holds a master of humanities degree from the University of Dallas with a concentration in classical education. Her first book, Thoroughness & Charm is now available from CiRCE Press. You can find Mandi on LinkedIn, Substack, and Instagram (@mrsgerthteaches). Timestamps:00:00 Introduction02:08 Introduction to Mandi and her work04:20 Enculturation and the Role of Tradition05:28 Liturgical Classroom Practices11:59 Ordered Loves and Their Significance in Education22:53 Reconnecting with the Joy of Teaching26:34 The Role of Lifelong Learning in Teaching30:24 Critical Thinking and Student Engagement34:39 Classroom Management Insights from Machiavelli38:33 Balancing Order and Joy in the ClassroomUD LinksClassical Education Master's Program at the University of Dallas: udallas.edu/classical-edSt. Ambrose Center Professional Development for Teachers and Administrators: https://k12classical.udallas.edu/Books Mentioned in Today's EpisodeCharles Taylor, Modern Social Imaginaries Karen Swallow Prior, Evangelical Imagination Joshua Gibbs, Something They Will Not Forget David Hicks, Norms & Nobility Donald Cowan, Unbinding PrometheusSupport the showIf you enjoyed the show, please leave a rating and review — it helps others find us!Support the showIf you enjoyed the show, please leave a rating and review — it helps others find us!
What happens when the tests no longer reflect the education? In this episode, Davies Owens sits down with Sarah Novlan, Chief Academic Officer at Hill Country Christian School and a doctoral candidate studying the Harkness Seminar model, to explore why the once-revered AP program is falling short in today's classical Christian schools. Together, they unpack the misalignment between AP coursework and the mission of classical education, the challenges of teaching to a test, and the dumbing down of rigor and content, especially in the humanities. Sarah shares her own journey from AP instructor to advocate for better assessments and introduces CLT's new Enduring Courses, an emerging alternative that honors intellectual virtue, great books, and oral expression. If you've ever wondered whether AP or dual credit is still the right path - or what better options may be on the horizon - this conversation is a must.
The Dean's List with Host Dean Bowen – With a focus Homer, Aristotle, Virgil, Euclid, and Shakespeare, a Classical Education is the education of our Founding Fathers and what is necessary for the future of the Republic. Such foundational teaching begins with focusing on the student's heart, soul, and mind. For example, we ask such questions as...
PLATO IS PHILOSOPHY - and there is no better place to start with Plato than First Alcibiades. Today, we are discussing First Alcibiades with Alec Bianco of the Circe Institute and with the Athenian Stranger. Go check out their X accounts. Visit thegreatbookspodcast.com for our reading schedule.Check out our PATREON for written guides on the great books!We also have a NEW COMMUNITY CHAT on Plato to discuss with other people reading along.First Alcibiades is both the beginning and a summation of Platonic philosophy. The dialogue “held pride of place in later antiquity as the ideal work with which to begin the study of Platonic philosophy.”[1] Its traditional subtitle was "on the nature of man,” and it was said First Alcibiades “contains the whole philosophy of Plato, as in a seed.”[2] The Islamic commentator, Al-Farabi, said that in First Alcibiades “all the Platonic questions are raised as if for the first time.”At the heart of the dialogue is the maxim “know thyself,” which is in turn at the heart of the philosophic life. Plato uses a dialogue between a young Alcibiades, age twenty, and an older Socrates, age forty, to explore the Delphic maxim within the context of a teacher and student.[3] The relationship of the teacher as a lover of the soul of the student gave rise to the term "Platonic love," an intense, but non-sexual love in pursuit of excellence.[4]The dramatic date of the dialogue is approximately 433 BC.[5] The composition date is a complicated question. First Alcibiades is considered by many to be a spurious dialogue or rather a dialogue written later by Platonists and not Plato. The dialogue sometimes has an earlier date around 390s BC and a later date in the 350s BC.[6] Some also hold the dialogue is a composite text with some being written by Plato and some being written by a later Platonist.It should be noted, however, that antiquity held that the dialogue was written by Plato, and the idea that it was not originated recently in nineteenth century German scholarship.[7] For our purposes, we will side with antiquity and default to Plato as the authentic author.CHECK OUT OUR GUIDE TO FIRST ALCIBIADES.CHECK OUT OUR COMMUNITY CHAT ON PLATO.Keywords: Plato, First Alcibiades, Socratic Method, Philosophy, Education, Rhetoric, Classical Education, Moral Formation, Athenian...
Feeling overwhelmed about the upcoming school year? You're not alone. In this episode of Everyday Educator, academic advisors Deb and Emily break down exactly how to set your family up for a stellar Classical Conversations Challenge year—without the stress. They reveal the one resource most parents skip that leads to major headaches later, share why doing assignments alongside your student creates the most memorable learning moments, and give level-by-level insider tips that will save you from common pitfalls. Whether you're a first-time Challenge parent or a seasoned homeschooler, discover how small preparation steps now can transform your entire year from chaotic to confident. This episode of Everyday Educator is sponsored by Judson College and the Classical Learning Cohort: At Judson College, North Carolina's only four-year accredited confessional Christian institution, we equip passionate students with over 25 majors and exceptional faculty to pursue God's calling in ministry, missions, or the workplace. Experience vibrant community through our unique House System while receiving comprehensive scholarships and special SBC church member discounts to make your divine calling affordable. Ready to answer your calling? Apply to Judson College today and step into God's plan for your life. https://judsoncollege.com/distinctives/ The Classical Learning Cohort offers online classes for parents to become more confident and competent Classical teachers. Through small-group lessons with trained Mentors, participants practice implementing classical skills, giving and receiving assessments, while experiencing transformative growth as a classical Christian educator. Want to learn more? Attend a free, online, Experience the CLC event at classicalconversations.com/cohort.
In this episode of The P.A.S. Report, Professor Nick Giordano is joined by Adam Kissel, author of Slacking: A Guide to Ivy League Miseducation and visiting fellow for higher education reform at The Heritage Foundation. Kissel exposes the rot inside elite institutions, from Columbia University's descent into radicalism to the broader crisis of academic decline and student activism replacing scholarship. He explains why the name on a diploma too often outweighs the quality of education received, how taxpayer dollars are fueling the problem, and what states like Florida are doing to restore civic knowledge and classical learning. This conversation is essential listening for anyone concerned about the future of American higher education. Episode Highlights: How the Ivy League became more about prestige than academic excellence Why radicalism and disruptions threaten free speech and civic discourse What states can do to bring back classical education and real accountability
What if the key to raising thoughtful, balanced, and flourishing kids isn't found in big moments - but in the quiet rhythms of daily life?In this episode, Davies Owens welcomes back Joanna Hensley, head of lower school at Wilson Hill Academy, pastor's wife, and homeschool mom of six. With wisdom rooted in classical Christian education and a deep love for Charlotte Mason's philosophy, Joanna shares practical ways families can cultivate meaningful habits, routines, and wonder even in the unstructured days of summer.From math games and nature walks to reading “living books” and resisting digital distractions, this conversation is packed with creative ideas for shaping lifelong learners without turning your home into a classroom.Whether you're parenting preschoolers or teens, this episode offers realistic, life-giving rhythms that bring formation, not just information.
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