Podcasts about Mutuality

In this episode, Kim talks to Rev Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt about Mary Magdalene. She discusses the Biblical witness of Mary Magdalene, and what happened historically to Mary so that she came to be understood as a prostitute. She also discusses the meaning of Apostle and why the Eastern and Western churches remember Mary Magdalene as an apostle to the apostles.    Bio   Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt is the Franklin S. Dyrness professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Wheaton College. She is an award-winning author, fellow in the Royal Historical Society, and ordained teaching elder in the Presbyterian church. Her latest books are Know the Theologians (Zondervan, 2024), a finalist in the 2024 CT Book Awards for Popular Theology, and The Mary We Forgot (Brazos, 2024). She and her husband co-founded McNuttshell Ministries that seeks to serve as a bridge between the church and academy.    Find Rev, Dr Jennifer McNutt  Substack: The McNuttshell https://substack.com/@jenniferpowellmcnutt   Contact: https://jenniferpowellmcnutt.com  McNuttshell Ministries: https://mcnuttshellministries.com  Scripture References Woman identified as “Sinner Woman” that gets conflated with Mary Magdalene: Luke 7   Highlighting women with Jesus, part of his ministry, traveling with Jesus: Luke Chapter 8:1-3  Scriptural definition of Apostles: 1 Cor 15, 1 John 1,   Mary's Message and Being Sent: John 20, Matthew 28, Luke 23-24, Acts 1  Other Resources Mentioned in Interview:   Scholars who have investigated Roman system of patronage: Lynn Cohick, Amy Brown Hughs, Susan Highland  CBE Resources:  Book Review of Jennifer Powell McNutt's, The Mary We Forgot: What the Apostle to the Apostle Teaches the Church Today by Kimberly Dickson  Women in Scripture and History: Mary Magdalene by Kimberly Dickson  To learn about the Middle Eastern culture and its impact on the movements of men versus women and children, see: “God's Word to Middle Eastern Women,” by Kevin Zabihi in Mutuality, October 20, 2021.  “Christ is Risen: The Nonsense of a Hysterical Woman,” by Chesna Hinkley in Mutuality April 15, 2020.  “Frequently Asked Questions about Mary Magdalene,” by Lidija Novakovic in Prisicilla Papers, June 5, 2006.  Disclaimer   The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

DateApril 6, 2025SynopsisIn this sermon, we join worship leader Leah Benn Miller and pastor Brent Levy for a raw, honest conversation about lust and love as part of the Lenten series "Glitch: Reframing Sin and Finding Reconnection." Through their exploration of Ephesians 5:21-33, they flip the script on shame-based theology, revealing how our deepest desires point to a God whose power flows through intimacy and mutual submission. Rather than weapons of control, both scripture and sexuality become invitations to see each other as sacred beings worthy of tender care, creating spaces where vulnerability blooms into grace.ReferencesScripture: Ephesians 5:21–33 About The Local ChurchFor more information about The Local Church, visit our website. Feedback? Questions? Comments? We'd love to hear it. Email Brent at brent@thelocalchurchpbo.org.To invest in what God's doing through The Local Church and help support these podcasting efforts and this movement of God's love, give online here.

Sex in marriage can sometimes feel imbalanced—one person initiates while the other holds the power to say yes or no, or one partner's needs take priority over the other's. But what if there was a way to create a deeper, more fulfilling connection? In this episode, we explore the concept of mutuality in marriage, a powerful approach where both partners' needs, desires, and well-being are valued equally. Drawing from Dr. David Schnarch's insights, we'll break down what it truly means to love well in a sexual relationship—not out of obligation or self-sacrifice, but through a balanced, collaborative connection. So, what does mutuality look like in the bedroom? And how can couples cultivate more of it? Tune in to find out.

In this episode, we're joined by Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin, professor of theology at Wheaton College and author of the new book Households of Faith, to discuss the theology of family.    Guest Bio  The Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin is associate professor of theology at Wheaton College. She is also a priest and canon theologian in the Anglican diocese of Churches for the Sake of Others (C4SO). Her latest book, Households of Faith: Practicing Family in the Kingdom of God is now available for pre-order from IVP. Dr. McGowin earned a Ph.D. in theology from the University of Dayton, M.Div. from Baylor University's Truett Seminary, and a B.A. in biblical studies from Criswell College. She has been teaching theology in university, high school, and local church settings for almost 20 years. She is married to Ron and they have three teen children. Together they enjoy exploring forest preserves   and playing Dungeons & Dragons.  Follow Emily on Facebook, Instagram, and X  Visit Emily's Website  Buy a copy of Households of Faith   Related Resources  Mutuality Matters: A Theology of Family + An Apocalyptic Advent  How One Church Is Growing Toward Full Biblical Mutuality  Culture, Gender, and the Family  Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. Coffee Unions Spread to Peet's Defining Anarchism feat. Andrew Mutuality feat. Andrew Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #4 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone Sources/Links: Coffee Unions Spread to Peet's https://linktr.ee/peetslaborunion https://peetslaborunion.org @peetslaborunion https://checkout.square.site/merchant/MLR6ZV4VZRBPT/checkout/2KLSQDHYHY7D3GNP7YUX62CD Defining Anarchism feat. Andrew https://davidgraeber.org/interviews/david-graeber-on-acting-like-an-anarchist/https://www.libertarian-labyrinth.org/glossary/a-new-glossary/ Mutuality feat. Andrew Debt by David Graeber: https://www.libertarian-labyrinth.org/glossary/a-new-glossary/ Antinomies of Democracy by Shawn Wilbur: https://humaniterations.net/2016/12/28/the-distinct-radicalism-of-anarchism/ Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #4 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/world/americas/trump-migrant-deportation-panama.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/establishing-the-presidents-make-america-healthy-again-commission/ https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/kennedy-lays-out-hhs-plan-00204675 https://newrepublic.com/post/191630/donald-trump-tom-homan-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-immigration https://popular.info/p/in-botched-dei-purge-osha-trashes?r=4v4dm&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-list-officials-resigned-fired-musk-trump-federal-government-2025-2 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/17/doge-social-security-musk/ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/usda-accidentally-fired-officials-bird-flu-rehire-rcna192716 https://www.theverge.com/news/614078/faa-air-traffic-control-spacex-elon-musk-layoff-staff-shortage https://apnews.com/article/rubio-plane-mechanical-issue-munich-conference-031928b920ff8e8d495d1590d508e1e5 https://x.com/BethanyAllenEbr/status/1892086856990237059 https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-auto-tariff-rate-will-be-around-25-2025-02-18/ https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/18/trump-order-power-independent-agencies-00204798 https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302481/trump-independent-agenciesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode is a part of a segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. In this special two-part interview, we're joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and author of Non-Toxic Masculinity, to discuss the role unhelpful views of masculinity impact how women and men function together.    Guest Bio   Zachary Wagner is a writer, researcher, and ordained minister––thinker of thoughts and feeler of feelings who lives in Chicagoland. He is pursuing a DPhil (PhD) in New Testament studies at Keble College, University of Oxford. He also serves as the director of Programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians, where he co-hosts the CPT Podcast. His research interests include economics in the ancient world, divine wages in Second Temple Judaism and early Christianity, Pauline epistles, the Gospel of Matthew, and New Testament masculinities. His first book, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality, was published in 2023 with Intervarsity Press. Zach's other writing interests include evangelical and “post-vangelical” Christian discipleship, theological formation, and speaking against church-based abuse.  Buy Zachary's book, Non-Toxic Masculinity  Follow Zachary on Instagram and X  Read “Broken Masculinity” on the Center for Pastor Theologians   Related Resources  New Voices: Non-Toxic Masculinity with Zachary Wagner  Let God Reign: Ditching the Umbrellas of Hierarchy  Let's Stop Talking about Masculinity and Start Talking about Discipleship     Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

I met Daniel Andrews through someone who has been monitoring Unstoppable Mindset and who told me that Daniel would be an interesting guest. How true it was. Daniel is a South Carolina guy born and bred. He makes his home in Columbia South Carolina. While in college he took a summer job with Cutco Cutlery after his sophomore year. I guess he liked the position because he stayed with Cutco for 15 years in sales positions.   While at Cutco his mentors introduced him to the concept of personal development. As you will see, he is widely read on the subject and he also learned to put his book learning to good use.   In 2013 he made the move to becoming his own boss and developed a true entrepreneurial spirit that still drives him today. He helps clients grow their businesses by seeking real quality contacts. He tells us that his goal is to introduce clients to 72 or 120 clients per year. As Daniel points out, a network of thousands of people is not nearly as effective as a smaller network of persons with whom you develop real credible relationships.   Daniel offers many wonderful and relevant tips on relationship and network building that I believe you will find useful. And, if you want more, Daniel provides his phone number at the end of this episode so you can reach out to him.       About the Guest:   Daniel grew up in Columbia, South Carolina after his dad moved from active duty USAF to reservice duty, in 1976. He attended college in Atlanta Georgia, where he took a summer job with Cutco Cutlery after his sophomore year, in 1988. His mentors, Ray Arrona, Ken Schmidt (RIP), Earl Small, and Don Freda introduced him to the concept of personal development, and his early career (the “summer job” lasted 15 years) was influenced by the writings of Zig Ziglar, Og Mandino, and Dale Carnegie.   He moved to St. Louis, Missouri in 2003 with his first wife, and switched careers. In his second career, a mix of B2B and B2C, he was influenced by  the writings of John Addison, Harland Stonecipher, and Jeff Olsen, encouraged by his mentor Frank Aucoin.   After his move to Houston, Texas, in 2013, he decided to become a true entrepreneur, and not just an independent contractor. The E-Myth Revisited, by Michael Gerber, Quench Your Own Thirst, by Jim Koch, and Profit First by  Mike Michalowicz were instrumental in making this jump, and he's currently engrossed in Super Connector by Scott Gerber and Give & Take by Adam Grant, as he builds a business based around showing people how to identify, find, meet, and grow relationships with a handful of key referral partners, to make sure there is a steady pipeline of 72-120 warm introductions to ideal client prospects every year.   He's been married to Adina Maynard since July 5th, 2019, after he returned to his hometown in the fall of 2016.     Ways to connect with Daniel:   Other handles: DanielPAndrews@outlook.com Pinterest link: https://www.pinterest.com/danielpandrews/   Daniel Andrews' personal FB link: https://facebook.com/danthemanwiththeplan1967   Daniel Andrews LinkedIn URL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/niasoutheast/   FB link - business page https://facebook.com/danandrewsnia   My video platform https://events.revnt.io/cutting-edge-business-coaching-llc   About the Host:   Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog.   Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards.   https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/   accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/   https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/       Thanks for listening!   Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us.     Michael Hingson ** 01:21 Well and hello everyone. This is Michael Hingson, your host for unstoppable mindset. We're glad you're with us today, and really glad to have the opportunity once again to be with you and talk about all sorts of different sorts different kinds of things, as we do every week. That's why we call it an unstoppable mindset, where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet, because unexpected is much more fun. Keeps us all on our toes. Our guest today is Daniel, and would like to welcome you to unstoppable mindset, and we really appreciate you being here. Yeah,   Daniel Andrews ** 01:58 it's good to be here. Happy to participate. And really, I'm honored by the fact that you invited me to be here. So thank you for that. Well, we   Michael Hingson ** 02:05 made it. It's It's been fun, and we, we got introduced through Noah, who, I guess, does publicity for you.   Daniel Andrews ** 02:19 He and I have talked about that at some point. I'm trying to remember the entire chain that got me to you. You know, the person introduced me to him, to her, to him, to her, to him, to her, to you, right? I need a family tree of an introductory tree on my wall over here. I just keep up with all the connections. Yeah?   Michael Hingson ** 02:38 Keeps you alert and keeps you alert, you know, yeah, for sure. Well, I really am glad that you're here. And Daniel has a, I think, a great story to tell. He lives in Columbia, South Carolina, which he's really mostly called home, although he was born elsewhere, but sort of since roughly a fair, well, a fairly short time, he moved to Columbia and has been there. So I won't go into all those details. We don't need to worry about him, unless he wants to tell them, but Columbia has been home most all of his life. He did live a little ways, a little while away from Columbia, and on that, I'm sure we're going to talk about, but nevertheless, Columbia is home. I've been to Columbia and enjoy it, and I miss South Carolina sausage biscuits. So I don't know what to say, but nevertheless, one of these days, I'm sure I'll get back down there, and the people I know will make some more. But meanwhile, meanwhile, here we are. So why don't you start by telling us a little bit about kind of the early Daniel, growing up and, you know, all that, just to give people little flavor for you, sure,   Daniel Andrews ** 03:46 older brother two years older than me, exactly. I mean, within a couple days of two years, we're the only two no other siblings. Dad was an Air Force fighter pilot, and people think that must be pretty cool, and at some level, it is. But to help frame it better and give you a better detail of the experience of being the son of a fighter pilot, I encourage people that I talk to to remember the movie Top Gun. Not the second one where everybody was a good guy, they were older and more mature and, you know, but in the first one where there was the good guy that was a jerk and the bad guy that was a jerk, but they were, they were both jerks. And you know, it's a weird environment to grow up in when the biggest compliment one man can pay another is you don't suck that bad, right? That's literally the biggest compliment they're allowed to pay each other. So I grew up always thinking like I was coming up short, which has got some positive and some negative attributes. My clients love it because I tend to over deliver for what I charge them, but it kills my coach because he thinks I'm not I'm not fairly pricing myself in the marketplace, but I it made me want to be an entrepreneur, because the benchmarks are clear, right? You? In a sales environment, you know whether you're ahead or behind. You know what you got to do to catch the number one guy or gal if you're trying to beat the competition, you know how big your paycheck is going to be if you're working on, you know, commission or base, plus commission and and I really enjoyed the environment of being, I don't want to say competitive, but knowing that, you know, I was competing with myself. So many of my friends are employed by academia or small companies or big corporations, and even when they benchmark really good results, the pay, the compensation, the time off, the rewards, the advancements aren't necessarily there. So I really like the idea of having a very specific set of objectives. If I do this, then that happens. If I work this hard, I get this much money. If I achieve these results, I get, you know, moved up into into more authority and more responsibility, and that really made a world of difference for me, so that that has a lot to do with it. And as a result of that, I've opted for the self employment   Michael Hingson ** 05:54 certainly gives you lots of life experiences, doesn't it?   Daniel Andrews ** 05:58 It does. And I think, I think that people that work for other people is certainly learn, learn a lot as well. Meaning, I've not had to have extended co worker relationships or manage those over time. My first wife was fond of saying that Daniel's good in small doses, right?   Michael Hingson ** 06:15 So here we are, Ayan, so you're, you're telling us a little bit about you and growing up,   Daniel Andrews ** 06:22 sure it just you know, father is fighter pilot, right? And always pushing me to do more, be more. And that led me to choose a route of self employment, usually as a in the early parts of my career, independent contractor for other people. So I still had a structure to work in, but I knew what my objectives were. I knew how much money I would earn if I produced X result. I knew what it meant to get more responsibility, and that worked well for me. And then about eight years ago now, I decided to become a full fledged entrepreneur and really do my own thing and create some fun stuff. And it's been a fun ride in that regard, but I do love the freedom that comes from setting my own objectives on a daily basis. Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 07:07 there's a lot to be said for that, and then not everyone can do that, because it does take a lot of discipline to be an entrepreneur, to do the things that you need to do, and know that you need to be structured to do the things that that have to be done at the same time. You do need to be able to take time off when that becomes relevant. But still, it does take a lot of discipline to be an entrepreneur and make it work successfully,   Daniel Andrews ** 07:35 right? And I don't know that I've mastered the discipline for it, but at least I'm working on my objectives and not somebody else's. The only person I'm letting down is me. You know, when I, when I, when I miss a deadline or don't execute, so that feels better to me than having the weight of somebody else's expectations on me   Michael Hingson ** 07:52 counts for something, doesn't it? I think so well. So you, you grew up in Columbia, but then you went off to college. Where'd you go to college?   Daniel Andrews ** 08:02 Down in Atlanta, Georgia, small school there. But I had a choice of three places, and each of them had offered me scholarship funds that equaled the same cost to me. IE, the packages were different, but the net cost to me in each case was going to be about the same. So rather than pick based on the financial aid or the scholarships are being offered, I picked on which city it was in. And I figured being a college kid in Atlanta, Georgia was a good move. And it turned out it was a good move. There was lots to see and do in Atlanta, Georgia, only about four hours from home. And it just it worked out to be pretty good that my other choices were Athens, Georgia, which is strictly a college town. And you know, when the summer rolls around, the place is empty. It goes down, and the other was a school and Farmville, Virginia, excuse me, the closest town is Farmville, Virginia, where the 711 closed at six. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that, yeah, not too sure. I want to be that far out in the sticks right as a 19 year old away from home for the first time, I wanted. I wanted. I wanted to have something to do with my freedom, meaning, if I was free to do what I wanted to do, I wanted to have something to do with that so and not not sit around Farmville, Virginia, wonder what was going to happen next. Yeah. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 09:19 so what did you major in in college?   Daniel Andrews ** 09:23 That question always comes up, and I'm always hesitant to answer that, because people think it has something to do with what I do today, and it does not in any way shape or stretch. I got a BS in psychology, which I tell people was heavy on the BS and light on the psychology, but at   Michael Hingson ** 09:38 the same time. And so my master's degree is in physics, although I ended up not going into physics, although I did a little bit of science work. But do you would you say, though, that even though you got a BS in psychology and you went off and you're clearly doing other things, did you learn stuff, or did that degree benefit you? And do you still. I have skills and things that you learned from that that you use today. I   Daniel Andrews ** 10:04 used to tell people that I had three facts that I used in college, that I learned in college, that I used on a daily basis, and for the longest time, I could recite all three. But nobody asked me what they were for the longest time, and I'm sure I still use all three of them, but I can only recall one, so the answer is, for the most part, no. But I think I went to college for a piece of paper. Someone else was paying for it. In this case, the school, not my parents. It was a scholarship, and I went to school not to learn anything. I went to school to get a piece of paper. I started off as a physics major, by the way, and when I got to the semester where they were trying to teach me that light is both a particle and a wave, I'm like, Yeah, we're going to need a different major, because I did not get my head around that at all. And and the degree that was had the least hurdles to get to switch majors and finish at that moment in time with psychology. So that's the route I took. I was just there for the piece of paper.   Michael Hingson ** 11:05 Physics wasn't what you wanted to do, huh?   Daniel Andrews ** 11:08 I did. But if the textbook had said light has attributes of both a particle and a wave, I might have been able to grasp it a little bit quicker. But it said light is both a particle and a wave, and it was the week of finals, and I was struggling with the intro in chapter one for the textbook, and I'm like, yep, might be time for different major at this point,   Michael Hingson ** 11:29 my master, my master's is in physics, and you mentioned and I enjoyed it, and I and I still have memories and concepts that I learned, that I use today, probably the biggest one is paying attention to detail and physics. It isn't enough to get the numeric right answer, you got to make the units work as well, which is more of a detail issue than just getting the numbers, because you can use a calculator and get numbers, but that doesn't get you the units. And so I found that skill to be extremely important and valuable as I worked through physics and went through and I actually got a master's and also a secondary teaching credential, and I thought I was going to teach, but life did take different directions, and so that's okay.   Daniel Andrews ** 12:18 Well, when you frame it that way, I will say that there is something that I learned that I that I use, maybe not in my work, but in my field of vision, and that's this, you know, lab and experimental methods taught me to ask the question, how did they ask the questions? Right? What was the structure of the test, the experiment, the the data collection right? Because you can do an awful lot of things. For example, they have found that if a doctor says to a patient, we have a chance to do surgery, there's a 10% chance of success, meaning that you'll live, they get a better up to uptake than if they say there's a 90% chance that you'll die. Yeah, it's the same information, but you always have to look at the way the questions are framed. Polls are notorious for this right data collection from my days in Cutco, I read a study and I put quotes around it right? A study that said that wooden cutting boards retain less bacteria than plastic cutting boards or polypropylene polyurethane, which is clearly blatantly wrong if you're treating your cutting boards correctly. And I looked into it, and they simply wiped the surface and then waited a day and measured bacteria count? Well, if you don't put it what you can dishwasher a plastic cutting board and sterilize it, right? Why would you simply wipe the surface? In the case of the wood, the bacteria was no longer at the surface. It had sunk into the woods. So there's not as much on the surface. I'm like, oh, but it's still there. It's just down in the wood. You have to literally look at the way these tests are done. And I guess the wooden cutting board industry paid for that study, because I can't imagine anybody else that would would a care and B make the argument that a wooden cutting board was better than a plastic one for sanitation reasons,   Michael Hingson ** 14:13 because it's clearly all it's all sales. And of course, that brings up the fact that you get that kind of knowledge honestly, because when you were a sophomore, you got a summer job with Cutco.   Daniel Andrews ** 14:24 I did, yeah, and I remember 3030, what is that? 36 years ago, now having to explain what Cutco was, but Cutco has been around for so long in America that most American households have at least some Cutco on them at this point. So I find most people already know and understand, but it was a direct sales job. It was not structured the way an MLM or a network marketing company has, but my job is to literally take, you know, a kit full of samples, right? Some some regular, normal, standard products that we would use and sell, and take them into people's homes and sit at the kitchen table and demonstrate. Right? The usefulness. Go over the guarantee, go over the pricing options, and you know what choices they could pick stuff out, and it turned out to be a lot of fun. Turned out to be more lucrative than most people imagine. I don't want to brag too much about how much reps make doing that, because then customers get upset we're being overpaid, but yeah, that's not true either. But it was a blast to to do that and the learning environment, right? What I learned about setting my own goals, discipline, awareness of the way communication landed on other people. I don't the psychology of communication, being around people, helping them understand what I knew to be true, finding ways to address concerns, issues, objections, without making them feel wrong or awkward. You know, it was a good environment, and that's why I stayed for 15 years. For   Michael Hingson ** 15:52 me, after college, I went to work with an organization that had developed a relationship with Dr Ray Kurzweil, the futurist and who now talks a lot about the singularity. And at that time, he had developed a machine that would read print out loud. Well, it would read print, and he chose, for the first application of that machine to be a machine that would read print out loud so that blind people could read print in books, because his technology didn't care about what type styles or print fonts were on the page anyway. After the job was over, I went to work for Ray, and after about eight or nine months, I was confronted with a situation where I was called into the office of the VP of Marketing, who said, your work is great. We love what you do, but you're not doing anything that produces revenue for us, because I was doing Human Factors work helping to enhance the machine, and so we're going to have to lay you off, he said. And I said, lay me off. And he said, again, your work is great, but we don't have enough revenue producers. We're, like a lot of startup engineering companies, we've hired way too many non revenue producers. So we got to let people go, and that includes you, unless you'll go into sales. And not only go into sales, but not selling the reading machine for the blind, but there's a commercial version that had just come out. So I ended up doing that, and took a Dale Carnegie sales course, a 10 week course, which I enjoyed very much. Learned a lot, and have been selling professionally ever since, of course, my story of being in the World Trade Center and escaping on September 11 after that, I still continue to sell. What I tell people is I love to view my life as now selling life and philosophy. Rather than selling computer hardware and managing a hardware team, it really is about selling life and philosophy and getting people to understand. You can learn to control fear. You can learn to function in environments that you don't expect, and you can go out of your comfort zone. And there's nothing wrong with that, you know. So that's it's been a lot of fun for the last 23 years to do that.   Daniel Andrews ** 18:00 Okay? Now you got me curious. What's the commercial application of a machine that will take a printed book and read it out loud? What I can clearly see why people with various and sundry?   Michael Hingson ** 18:12 Well, for people who are blind and low vision, well, so let's, let's deal with it. The commercial application for that particular machine is that people will buy it and use it. Of course, today it's an app on a smartphone, so it's a whole lot different than it was as a $50,000 machine back in 1978 1979 but the idea behind the machine was that libraries or agencies or organizations could purchase them, have them centrally located, so people who never could read print out loud before could actually go get a book, put it on the machine and read it.   Daniel Andrews ** 18:46 Okay? So this would make sense libraries and institutions of public knowledge, okay. But then, as I could see, where someone would want one in their home if they had need of it. But I was just curious about the commercial application well.   Michael Hingson ** 18:57 But then over time, as the technology advanced. As more were produced, the price went down. And it went from $50,000 down to $20,000 and you started to see some in people's homes. And then, of course, it got less and less and less and eventually, before it became almost a free app on a smartphone today, it used the Symbian operating system and Nokia phones, and the the technology, in total, was about $1,800 and then, of course, it became an app on a smartphone, and a lot of OCR today is free, but the other side of it was the machine I sold was a version that banks would use, lawyers would use, other people would use to be able to take printed documents and get them into computer readable form, because people saw pretty early on that was an important thing to be able to do so they could peruse databases and so on and so the bottom line is that it was very relevant to do. Yeah, and so there was commercial value, but now OCR has gotten to be such a regular mainstay of society. You know, we think of it differently than we did then, very   Daniel Andrews ** 20:10 much. But yeah, we still have one that can read my handwriting   Michael Hingson ** 20:15 that is coming. You know, they're my handwriting. I wanted to be a doctor, and I passed the handwriting course, but that's as far as I got. But, and as I love to tell people, the problem was I didn't have any patients, but, you know, oh boy. But the the bottom line is that there were applications for it, and and it worked, and it was great technology. So it taught me a lot to be able to be involved in taking the Dale Carnegie sales course, and I know he's one of the people that influenced you in various ways. Very much, very important to recognize for me that good sales people are really teachers and advisors and counselors. Absolutely you can. You can probably talk people into buying stuff, which may or may not be a good thing to do, but if we've really got something that they need, they'll figure it out and they'll want to buy   Daniel Andrews ** 21:11 it. Yeah, the way it was summarized to me, and this particularly relates around, you know, the Cutco product or another tangible you know, selling is just a transference of enthusiasm, meaning, if they knew and understood it the way I did, it would make perfect sense. So the question was, how do I find a way to convey my enthusiasm for what I knew about the product? And as simple, I don't wanna say simple, it sounds condescending in as few words as possible, in ways that made it easy for them to digest, right? Because some people are, are tactile, and they want to hold it, look at it. Others are, you know, knowledge oriented. They want to read the testimonials and a guarantee and, you know, things like that. So just, how do you, how do you kind of figure out who's looking for what? Yeah,   Michael Hingson ** 21:56 and the reality is, everybody is a little bit different in that arena. And as you said, conveying enthusiasm, you'll either be able to do it or you'll find that what you have isn't really what's going to make them enthusiastic, which can be okay too. Yep, the important thing is to know that and to use that information. And when necessary, you move on and you don't worry about it, correct? We have cut CO knives. We're we, we're happy. But anyway, I think the the issue is that we all have to grow, and we all have to learn to to do those things that we find are relevant. And if we we put our minds to it, we can be very productive people. And as you pointed out, it's all about transmitting enthusiasm, and that's the way it really ought to be.   22:54 Yeah, I think so.   Michael Hingson ** 22:55 So you talk about, well, so let's, let's go back. So you went to work for Cutco, and you did that for 15 years. What would you say the most important thing you learned as a as a salesperson, in working at Cutco really came down to,   Daniel Andrews ** 23:16 there's so many fundamental lessons in the direct sales industry, right? It's why, you know, so many people got their start with Encyclopedia Britannica or Southwestern books or Cutco knives, right? There's a, there's a, I mean, in the 90s, CentOS, the uniform people and sprint when cell phones were new and actually had to actively be sold because people had to be talked into it, yeah. You know, they ran whole recruiting ads that said, Did you used to sell knives, entry level work, starting at base, you know, salary plus commission, right? Because it was so foundational. So it's hard to say the most important thing, but I would say the ability to take control of my own schedule, and therefore my own actions, right, was a huge part of it. But then the ability to really know what, understand the people that I was working with as customers. As my time at ketco matured, and even after I left working with them full time, I still had a database of customers that wanted to deal strictly with me and the fact that they were happy to see me right? That when I was again, after I'd moved away, if I came back to town, that my customers would be like, Oh, I heard you're in town when you come to our house and have dinner, right? And just the way, I was able to move from business relationship into one where I really connected with them. And you know that many years, seeing that many customers give me some really cool stories too, which I'm not going to eat up most of this, but I've just got some fun stories of the way people responded to my pleasant persistence, follow through, follow up, knowing that I could run into any one of them anywhere at any moment in time. And not feel that I had oversold them, or I had been pushy, right, that they would be happy and what they bought. And as a matter of fact, I've only ever had one customer tell me that they bought too much Cutco. And she said that to me when I was there sharpening her Cutco and selling her more. And she said she had bought more than she needed for her kitchen. Initially, I'm selling her more for a gift, let me be clear. And I paused, and I said, Do you remember how the this is like five or six years later? I said, you remember how the conversation went? Because I use the story of that demo when I'm talking to other people and to other reps. She said, Oh yeah, no, no. She goes, I will 100% own that I chose to buy more than I needed. She goes, I was not trying to pin that on you. I was just trying to tell you that that's what I did. I said, Oh, okay, because I wanted to be clear, I remember very clearly that I offered you the small set, and you chose the big set. And she goes, that is exactly what happened. I made the choice to over buy, and that's on me, and that level of confidence of knowing I could go through time and space, that I could meet my customers here, you know, when I came back to town, or now that I moved back to town, and I don't have to flinch, right? But I'm not that I did it in a way that left them and me feeling good about the way I sold them. That's pretty it's pretty important,   Michael Hingson ** 26:15 and it is important, and it's, it's vital to do that. You know, a lot of people in sales talk all about networking and so on. You, don't you? You really do talk about what I believe is the most important part about sales, and that's relationship building, correct?   Daniel Andrews ** 26:34 I took, took my theme from The subtitle of a book called Super connector, and the subtitle is, stop networking and start building relationships that matter. And I'm, I'm comfortable using that, by the way, there's another book titled networking isn't working, and it's really hitting the same theme, which is, whatever people are calling networking is, is not really, truly building a network and relationships that make a difference. It's social selling. I call it sometimes. It's being practiced as speed prospecting, right? Or marketing by hand. There's, there's, there's a bunch of ways that I can articulate why it's not literally not networking. It's simply meeting people and treating them very one dimensionally. Will you buy my thing? Or do you know somebody That'll buy my thing right? And those are very short sighted questions that have limited value and keeps people on a treadmill of thinking they need to do more networking or meet the right people. I get this all the time, if I can just find the right people, or if I could just be in the right rooms, right at the right events, and I'm like, or you could just be the person that knows how to build the right relationships, no matter what room you're in. Now, having said that, are there some events, some rooms, some communities, that have a higher likelihood of high value? Sure, I don't want to discourage people from being intentional about where they go, but that's only probably 10 to 20% of the equation. 80 to 90% of the equation is, do you know what to do with the people that you meet when you meet them? Because anybody that's the wrong person, and I simply mean that in the context of they're not a prospect. Knows people that could be a prospect, but you can't just go, Oh, you're not going to buy my thing. Michael Hinkson, do you know, anybody that's going to buy my thing that's no good, because you're not going to put your reputation on the line and refer me somewhere, right until you have some trust in me, whatever that looks like.   Michael Hingson ** 28:30 And that's the real issue, right? It's all about trust right down the line. You know, network is meeting more people, meeting more people. That's great. I love to meet people, but I personally like to establish relationships. I like to get to know people, and have probably longer and more conversations than some of my bosses would have liked. But the result and the success of establishing the relationships can't be ignored   Daniel Andrews ** 29:05 correct. And I think that you kind of threw in a word there that I think some people will internalize, or it will reinforce some of their preconceptions. And I think it's worth addressing. And I'll just give you a quick example. Six, six weeks ago, four weeks ago, I had a conversation with somebody I was introduced to. His name happens to be Michael as well. Michael, Mike Whitmore. He was impressed with the quality of our first well, it went 45 it was scheduled for 25 and I went 45 because we really gelled. And he invited me to come to a cocktail party that was being hosted by a company he was affiliated with three hour event, and we spoke again later to make sure you know everything was in order, because it involved me flying to Salt Lake City for a cocktail party I did. He was there. We spoke briefly. We both mingled with other. People. I had breakfast with him the next day. This is yesterday that I had breakfast with him. And as we're talking, he's like, Okay, I have 80 people that need what you've got. He's, he's basically, after a few conversations, gonna refer about $400,000 for the business to me, right? And I'm like, Okay, and so what people miss is that you can build that relationship quickly if you're intentional about building the relationship. And where I see the mistake most people make. And God bless Dale Carnegie, and Dale's Carnegie sales training course, right? But that that the model, what I call the cocktail party model, or the How to Win Friends and Influence People, model of getting to know somebody you know. How about that ball team? You know? Did your sports club win? Right? How's the weather up there? Did you hear about the you know, how's your mom, right? When's the last time you were camping with the fam? All legitimate questions, but none of them moved the business conversation forward. And so the ability to build a productive business relationship faster by focusing on the mutual shared value that you have between each other and the business aspects, and including the personal as the icing on the cake is a much better way to do it, and that's why I was very particular about the fact that, you know, when I was talking about my experience with ketco, that it was over time that the personal aspects, that the friendship looking aspects, evolved On top of the business relationship, because it is way easier to mix the ingredients, to put the icing or friendship on the cake of business than it is to establish a friendship and then go, by the way, it's time for us to talk business, right? You need to our client, or you need to let me sell what I'm offering that can get become jarring to people, and it can call into question the whole reason you got to know them to start with, right? So I much prefer the other route. And just one other brief example, speaking with a woman in a in what I, you know, a first paired interview, Quick Connect, 25 minutes long, and she's like, understand, you know, relationships, it's the, you know, it's the way to do it, right? It's the long play, but it pays off over time. And you know, as long as you stay at it, and I'm like, Why do you keep saying it's the long play? Well, because relationships take time. And I'm like, You say so. And we started to run long and realized we had more value, so we booked it. Ended up being about four or five weeks later, because my calendar stays pretty full, and she's so we've been in 125 minute phone call. We start the second zoom with her, with Peggy asking me who's your target market again. And I gave her the description for a $25,000 client. And she said, I have three people that I can refer you to in that space that might might want to be clients. And then she started to try and tell me how relationships are the long play? Again, I'm like, thank you. Hold up. We spent 25 minutes together a month ago, and you started this conversation by referring $75,000 worth of revenue to me. What makes you think relationships are the long play? I think you can make them last if you want them to last, but it doesn't take a long time to build those I said I knew what I was doing with those first 25 minutes. That's why, at this stage of the game, you're looking to refer business to me. Yeah, right, yeah. And so I don't think it's a long you're not establishing a marriage relationship, right? You're not deciding who your new best friend is going to be, right? You're trying to establish a mutually beneficial business relationship and see what it takes you right with the right set of questions, it goes so much faster   Michael Hingson ** 33:49 and and that's really a key. And for me, one of the things that I learned in sales, that I really value a lot is never answer or ask close ended questions. I hate yes and no questions, because I learned a long time ago. I don't learn much if I just ask somebody. Oh, so you, you tell me you need a tape library, right? Yes, and you, you ask other questions, but you don't ask the questions like, What do you want to use it for? Why do you really need a tape library today? What? What is it that you you value or that you want to see increased in your world, or whatever the case happens to be, right? But I hate closed ended questions. I love to engage in conversations, and I have lots of stories where my sales teams. When I manage teams, at first, didn't understand that, and they asked the wrong questions. But when I would ask questions, I would get people talking. And I was I went into a room of Solomon brothers one day back in like, 2000 or so, or 2000 early 2001 and I was with. My best sales guy who understood a lot of this, but at the same time, he wanted me to come along, because they wanted to meet a sales manager, and he said, I didn't tell him you were blind, because we're going to really hit him with that. And that was fine. I understood what he what he meant, but also he knew that my style was different and that I liked to get more information. And so when we went in and I started trying to talk to the people, I turned to one guy and I said, tell me what's your name. And it took me three times to get him to say his name, and finally I had to say I heard you as I walked by. You know, I know you're there, what's your name? And then we started talking, and by the time all was said and done. I got everyone in that room talking, which is great, because they understood that I was really interested in knowing what they were all about, which is important,   Daniel Andrews ** 35:53 correct? And I mean part of it right, particularly if you're problem solving, right? If you're there with a solution, a sales environment, open ended questions, predominantly the way to go. There's always going to have to be some closed ended right? What's the budget for this? Who are the decision makers in the process? But, and I certainly think a lot of the same ones apply in decision making. Meaning, it's probably an 8020 split. 80% of the questions should be open ended. 20% you know, you know, you just need some data from the other person, right? Because, as I'm meeting people, I need to decide who to refer them to, right? I know I can think off the top of my head of three different resume coaches, right? People that help people get the resume, their cover letter and their interview skills together. And one charges, you know, four to 5000 for the effort, right, depending on the package, right? One charges between 2030 500 depending on one guy charges, you know, his Deluxe is 1200 bucks, right? And the deliverable is roughly the same. Meaning, I've never looked for a job using these people, because I've been self employed forever, but I would imagine the deliverable is probably not three times as or four times as good at 5k at 1200 Right, right? But I need to know the answer, what you charge, because the rooms I will put people in are going to differentiate, right? I actually said it to the guy that was charging 1200 I said, Where'd you get the number? And he told me. And I said, Do you realize that you're losing business because you're not charging enough, right? And he said, Yes, some prospects have told me that. And I said, I'm sorry. Plural. I said, How many? How many are going to tell you before I before you raise your rates? And I said, here's the thing, there's communities, networks that I can introduce you to at that price point, but the networks that I run in won't take you seriously if you're not quoting 5000 for the job. Yeah? And he just couldn't get his head around it. And I'm like, Okay, well, then you're stuck there until you figure out that you need to triple or quadruple your price to hang out in the rooms I hang out in to be taken seriously.   Michael Hingson ** 37:57 Yeah? And it is tough for a lot of people, by the way, with that Solomon story, by the time I was done, and we had planned on doing a PowerPoint show describing our products, which I did, but even before we did that, I knew our product wasn't going to do what they needed. But went through the presentation, and then I said, and as you can see, what we have won't work. Here's why, but here's what will work. And after it was all said and done, one of the people from near the back of the room came up and he said, we're mad at you. And I said, why? He said, Oh, your presentation was great. You You gave us an interesting presentation. We didn't get bored at all. The problem was, we forgot you were blind, and we didn't dare fall asleep, because you'd see us. And I said, well, well, the bottom line is, my dog was down here taking notes, and we would have got you anyway, but, but, you know, he was he we had a lot of fun with that. Two weeks later, we got a proposal request from them, and they said, just tell us what we're what we're going to have to pay. We got another project, and we're going to do it with you. And that was   Daniel Andrews ** 39:02 it, yeah, and because the credibility that you'd established credibility,   Michael Hingson ** 39:07 and that is a great thing,   Daniel Andrews ** 39:09 that was part of the discussion I have with some of my clients today when I hold a weekly office hours to see what comes up. And I said, it's just important to be able to refer people to resources or vendors, as it is to refer them to a prospect, right? If you don't have the solution, or if your solution isn't the best fit for them, the level of credibility you gain to go, you know what you need to do? You need to go hang out over there. Yeah, right. You need to talk to that guy or gal about what they have to offer. And the credibility goes through the roof. Well,   Michael Hingson ** 39:39 we've been talking about networking, and I think that's everything we've talked about. I think really makes a lot of sense, but at the same time, it doesn't mean that you don't build a network. It's just that networking and building a network are really two different sorts of things. What are some of the most important things that you've learned about building. That   Daniel Andrews ** 40:00 works. Sure, there's several, and some of them come as a bit of a shock to people. And I always say it's okay if it's a shock to you, because it was a shock to me. But I don't take I don't have opinions. I have positions based on data. Right? You know that from your from your days as a scientist, what you think ought to be true absolutely irrelevant in the face of what the data tells us is true. But I think one of the important things is that it's possible to give wrong. Adam Grant says in the first chapter of his book, give and take. That if you look at people's networking styles, and I'll use the common vernacular networking styles, you have givers, people that tend to give more than they, you know, receive takers, people whose objective is to always be on the plus side of the equation. And then matchers, people that practice the degree of reciprocity. And I would even argue that that reciprocity and matching is a bad mentality, just so you know. But if you look at the lifetime of success, a career is worth of success. In the top levels of success, you find more givers than takers and matchers, which makes a lot of sense. In the lowest levels of success, you find more givers than takers and matchers. They're giving wrong. They tend to polarize. They tend to either be high achieving or very low achieving, because they're giving wrong. And so I and Michael, let me use his name. We had breakfast yesterday morning after the happy hour, and I said, Mike, are you open for coaching? And he said, You know I am. He said, I didn't have you flat here in Salt Lake City, because I don't respect you. What do you got for me? I said, Josh kept thanking you yesterday for the things you've done for him in his world lately, you know, over the last several years. And he kept saying, What can I do for you? And you said, Oh, no, I just love giving. I love giving, right? You know, it's not a problem. You know, I'm in a great position. I don't need to have a lot of need of resources. And I said, and you're missing the fact that he was explicitly telling you this relationship feels uneven. I said it takes longer to kill it, but you will kill a relationship just as quickly by consistently over giving as you will by taking too much. And it's a little more subconscious, although in Josh's case, it was very conscious. He was actively trying to get Mike to tell him, what can I do for you so I don't feel like I'm powerless in this relationship. And Mike was like, Oh my gosh, I never thought of that. Said, Look, I said, I don't know how your kids are. He said, well, two of them are married. And I said, my grown daughter argues with me over who's going to buy dinner. But I get it because I used to argue with my dad, who was going to buy dinner. Yeah, dinner together, right? It feels weird for someone, even somebody, that loves you, right? And, of course, the only way I can do it with my daughter is to explain, it's her money anyway. I'm just spending her inheritance on her now, it's the only way she'll let me buy dinner every time we meet, and she still insists that she pays the debt, because over giving will get in the way of what we're trying to accomplish, right? That's fair, yeah. And so people miss that, right? I get this law of reciprocity. If I just give and give and give to the world, it'll all come back to me. No, ma'am. We have 6000 years of recorded history that says that's not   Michael Hingson ** 43:18 how it works. There's there's something to be said forgiving, but there's also receiving. And in a sense, receiving can be a gift too. So you're mentioning Michael and Josh. Josh would have loved, as you're pointing out, Michael to tell him some things that he could do for Michael, and that would have been a great gift. So the reality is, it's how people view giving, which is oftentimes such a problem. I know, for me as a public speaker, I love dealing with organizations that are willing to pay a decent wage to bring a speaker in, because they understand it, and they know they're going to get their money's worth out of it. And I've gone and spoken at some places where they say, well, we can't pay you a lot of money. We're going to have to pay just this little, tiny amount. And invariably, they're the organizations that take the most work, because they're the ones that are demanding the most, even though they're not giving nearly as much in return. And and for me, I will always tell anyone, especially when we're clearly establishing a good relationship, I'm here as your guest. I want to do whatever you need me to do, so please tell me how best I can help you, but I know I'm going to add value, and we explore that together, and it's all about communication.   Daniel Andrews ** 44:48 I think so well. And in the case, you know, just go back to the mike and Josh story real quick, right? There's, there's number one, there's a sense of fairness. And I don't like the word reciprocity or magic, right? I like the word. Mutuality, but there's a sense of fairness. Number one. Number two, it's a little bit belittling to Josh, for Mike to act like Josh doesn't have anything to offer him, right? It's a little bit condescending, or it could be, Mike doesn't mean it that way, right? No, what he means is my relationship with you, Josh is not predicated on us keeping a scoreboard on the wall and that we make sure we come out even at the end of every quarter, right? But, but. And then the third part is, you know, I said, Mike, think of how good you feel when you give. He says, I love it. It's great. That's why I said, so you're robbing Josh of the feeling of giving when you don't give him a chance to give. I said, you're telling him that your joy is more important than his joy, and he's like I never thought of over giving or not asking as robbing people of joy. I said, You need to give the gift to Josh and the people around you to feel the joy that comes from being of use, of being helpful, of having and I said, even if you have to make something up or overstate the value of a of a task that he could do for you, I said, if you literally don't need anything in your world, Mike, find some job Hunter that's looking for work. And say, Josh, as a courtesy to me, would you meet with Billy Bob and see if you can help him find work somehow give Josh the sense that he's contributing to the betterment of your world, even   Michael Hingson ** 46:26 if it may not work out that this person, Billy Bob would would get a job, but it's still you're you're helping to further the relationship between the two of you, correct, right? You're   Daniel Andrews ** 46:38 helping him feel like he's an equal in that relationship. And that's an important part of it. It really is. It's now I do an important part. I do believe we absolutely should tithe. We should give of our time. We should be at the homeless shelter on Thanksgiving. If that's what we're called to do, we should be, you know, you know, aid to the poor, you know, mentoring junior people who don't have a lot to offer us. I absolutely believe that's true. So when I say give strategically or given a sense of mutuality, but we need clear delineations on you know what we're doing, because if we give indiscriminately, then we find out that we're like the people in chapter one of Adam Grant's book that are in the lower quartile of success, even though we're quote, doing all the right things. And the best way to make you know, the example I give on that, and I'll articulate this little bit, I'm holding my hands apart and moving them closer together in stages, just because the visual will help you here too. But I tell people, right? I hold my hands apart and I say, you know, we're going to spend this much time on the planet alive, right? And this much time on the planet awake, right, and this much time on the planet at work. And then I'll pause and go, these are approximations right, because clearly they are right, and this much time on the planet dealing with other people. So if, if it's true that we only have a limited or finite resource of time to spend building a network with other people, then why wouldn't we choose people whose message is worth amplifying and who we're well positioned to amplify and vice versa? And to make that even more clear for people, if you're a real estate agent, you could find a lot of people that would refer business to you, but you could find a few people that would refer a lot   Michael Hingson ** 48:25 of business, a lot of business. Yeah,   Daniel Andrews ** 48:27 you could find a mortgage lender, a divorce attorney, a moving company, a funeral home director, a nursing home director, right? And and if you're going to spend time building relationships with people, why wouldn't you find the people who are positioned to touch more people that you need to touch, particularly if there is some mutuality, meaning, as a real estate agent, I would be just as likely to be able to help a mortgage lender, a moving company, a funeral loan director, etc, etc, etc, right? All those things can come into play. And you know, the John gates, the salary negotiation coach, right? And Amanda Val bear, the resume writing coach, anybody can refer business to Amanda, but John's going to refer a lot more business to Amanda. Anybody can refer business to John, but Amanda's going to refer a lot more business to John. And and, you know, given that we've only got a finite number of conversations we're able to hold in our lifetime, why wouldn't Amanda and John be spending time with each other rather than spending time with me, who might occasionally meet somebody who needs them, but not on a daily basis the way Amanda meets John's clients? John meets Amanda's potential clients.   Michael Hingson ** 49:32 So here's the other way to spin. May not be the right word, but I'll use it. Frame it. Frame it. So you've got somebody who you're not giving a lot of, let's say a real estate agent. You're not giving that person a lot, but you're giving Elmo Schwartz, the real estate agent down the street, a lot more referrals and so on. Then the real estate agent who you're not referring a lot of people to, comes along and says, You. You know, I know you're really working with this other guy, but you know you and I have have had some conversations, and so how come I can't take advantage of the many opportunities that you're that you're offering? And I, for me, I always rejoice when I hear somebody ask that question, because at least they're opening up and they're saying, What do I need to do? At least, that's what I assume they're asking,   Daniel Andrews ** 50:24 yes, yeah, and that's a question that I teach people to ask, under what conditions would you feel comfortable referring business to me, right? Right? And you know, they may go, well, we don't share the same last name, but all my referrals go to, you know, Billy Bob, because he's my brother in law, and Thanksgiving gets weird, right? If he realizes I've been given leads to you, right? You know, it may never happen. Now, in my case, I believe in having multiple referral partners in every industry, right? Yeah, I don't just pick one, because personality plays part of it, right? I mean, and we can go back to real estate just because you say you're a real estate agent, I'm a real estate agent. I mean, we're calling on the same market. Same market at all, right, right? You could be a buyer's agent. I could be a seller's agent. You could be calling on, you know, what's a probate and estate issues? I could be dealing with first time homebuyers and young people, right? And therefore, and a lot of times it's personality, meaning, I personally, is not even the right word approach to business, meaning, there's some people that I would send to Ann Thomason, and there's some people I would send to Kim Lawson, and there's some people I would send to Elaine Gillespie, and some people I'd send to Taco Beals, right? Because I know what each of their strengths are, and I also know what sort of person they want to work with, right? Right? That's 1/3 person would appreciate them.   Michael Hingson ** 51:42 And that's the important part that that when somebody comes along and says, How come such and such, you can answer that, and you can do it in a way that helps them understand where they can truly fit into what you're offering, and that you can find a way to make it work, and that's really important. I've always maintained the best salespeople or teachers, pure and simple, in almost everything, and preachers, but but listening preachers. So it is, it is important to, yeah, well,   Daniel Andrews ** 52:16 and I bring this up in the context because we have a Bible college here in our town. So when I was a manager for Cutco, right? We get the college kids, right? Some of these seminary students, you know, looking for summer work and right? And they're like, you know, how does sales relate to, you know, being in the ministry later, I said, man. I said, Are you kidding? You kidding? I said, it's the purest. I said, you've got the hardest sales down on the roll. You ask people to pay the price now, and the payoff is at the end of their life. That's not sales. I don't know what is. At least, when people give me money, I give them something for it within a couple of days, you know, I said, I said, You better be good at sales if you're going to be your preacher eventually. Because you the, you know, the payment, the cost comes now, and the payoff, the reward comes later. I said, Man, those are the same but teachers the same way, right? You've got to invest the kids, the kids or the student, no matter how you know and what they're learning and why it's going to be relevant down the   Michael Hingson ** 53:06 road, right? Yeah, well, you You clearly have, have accepted all of this. When did you realize that maybe you were doing it wrong and that you re evaluated what you do?   Daniel Andrews ** 53:17 That's a great story, and there was a light bulb moment for me, right? I think the kids these days call it the origin story, right? You know. And and to tell the story correctly, but I have to give labels to the other two people involved, because their names are so similar that when I tell the story, I managed to confuse myself who was who. So I was in St Louis, Missouri, which, for reasons I won't go into for this podcast, is a weird town to be involved in B to B business in. They literally would prefer to do business with somebody they went to high school with. It's just a It's strange, but true. And I can go into the background of why it's true. It just is. It's accepted by people that have sold in towns other than St Louis. It's they know that St Louis is weird. Okay, so I'm having trouble not getting the traction I want. Who's in my industry, he agrees that we're going to partner and we're going to have a revenue share. I don't believe in finder's fees, but if you're going to co create the value with me, that's a different thing altogether, right? Writing a name on a piece of paper, I'm not paying for that. But if you're going to go with me on the appointment and help me get the job done. Yeah. Okay, back to the point. So my wingman, right? My partner, I call him wingman for the version this story, local, been around forever, prospect, business owner, right? We've got a B to B offered that's going to be fairly lucrative, because he's part of a family that owns a family businesses quite, quite a large there in St Louis. And we had met with the CFO because that was the real touch point on the business. As far as the value proposition over lunch, the four of us have been there prospect wingman CFO, of the prospect of myself, and it went reasonably well. Out they wanted to follow up to make the decision, which is not, not atypical. So we're back there standing in the parking lot of the prospects business, and the prospect points at me and says, Who is this guy? And my partner says, he's my guy. And the prospect points at me and goes, but I don't know this guy, and my partner says, but I know this guy, and the prospect points me and says, Well, what happens if something happens to this guy? And my partner says, I'll find another guy. And that was the purest, simplest form of what's truly happening when you're building a network. See, my days at Cutco were predicated on some of the same things. I go to Michael's house. I asked the name of your neighbors, your best friends, your pastor, your doctor, whoever you think, and then I would call them Hey, your buddy Michael insen said you'd help me out. So I'm borrowing a little bit of credibility, but the sale was made in the product, right? I'm only asking for a moment of your time, but I expected to show up, meaning I was only borrowing someone else's credibility to get a moment of your time. But I expected to show up and let the product and my Sterling personalities, I like to think of it, shine through and make the sale. There you go. And I realized, because when the prospect pointed me and said, Who is this guy, I thought my partner would say, he's my guy. Daniel, here's your chance to rise and shine, bring it, do that song and dance that you do, right? And he didn't. He kept the focus on the real point, which was that the prospect had credibility with my partner, and my partner had credibility with me. Yeah, right. And, and, and in that moment where he refused to put the spotlight on me, my partner kept it on himself, and he said, Mr. Prospect, don't worry about him. I'm not asking you to trust him. I'm asking you to trust me. And that was the light bulb where I said, Oh, what we're building is not introductions. We're building endorsements. When I get to the prospects door. I have the all the credibility that came from Bert, who referred me right, whatever credibility my partner, Bert, had with the prospect Butch. I show up on Butch is doorstep with that credibility. And when Butch starts to question it, the prospect starts to question it, my partner goes, What do you question? You're going to question him. We're not talking about him. We're talking about you and me, and we've known each other 30 years. What are you doing here? And I'm like, oh, that's why we're doing this. That's the point. I'm not asking to borrow your Rolodex. I'm asking to borrow your credibility.   Michael Hingson ** 57:38 And the other part of that question that comes to mind is, did the credibility that Bert and Butch have with each other ever get to the point where it transferred to you, at least in part? Oh, yeah,   Daniel Andrews ** 57:55 yeah, we got the sale. Yeah. I mean, that was the conversation where he's like, All right, we're going to do this. I'm like, because it was a big deal. It was a very large deal. And, yeah, but in   Michael Hingson ** 58:04 general, you know, I hear what you're saying, and in general, somewhere along the line, the prospect has to say, has to hopefully recognize this other guy really is part of the process and has value, and so I'm going to like him too, correct,   Daniel Andrews ** 58:23 and you can drop the ball. It's possible to screw it up, but I'm starting at a level 10 in the case of this particular pair of people, and it's mine to lose, as opposed to starting from zero and trying to get up to five or six or eight or whatever it takes to make the sale, and that's the biggest difference, right? It will, it will transfer to me, but then it's up to me to drop the ball and lose it, meaning, if I don't do anything stupid, it's going to stay there. And you know what was great about my partner was he didn't even not that I would have but he didn't give me any room to say anything stupid. He's like, he's like, let's not even talk. Put the spotlight on Daniel. Let's keep the spotlight on the two of us, and the fact that I've never let you down in 30 years. Why would you think this is going to be a bad introduction   Michael Hingson ** 59:09

Mutuality-the Future of Trust: The Executive's Handbook, Enabling Mutuality to Cognitively Transform Organisations In today's organizations and society, two major challenges stand out: declining trust and the need to adapt to increasing complexity. Research highlights a shift from judgment and dependability to relational trust, built on mutuality—principles fostering deep social bonds through care, support, and shared responsibility. True mutuality requires cognitive evolution, not just behavioral change. After two decades of research, we've identified six archetypes that hinder relational trust, limiting safe and productive workplaces. This book offers practical strategies to navigate challenges, drive transformation, and boost organizational effectiveness.   Matthew Byrne is a University of Technology Sydney and Harvard graduate and works with the Australian Graduate School of Management as adjunct faculty and Program Director of the iconic General Manager's program. Matthew specialises in aligning personal strategies with corporate aspirations, equipping executives to envision and seize value through innovative leadership. He empowers leaders to navigate economic challenges proactively, optimising financial and human capital for enhanced organisational success. Matthew has been collaborating with Denis Jenkins for over 15 years in corporate education and helping dysfunctional corporations engage their people to better build corporate trust and move managers from process-thinking to strategic-thinking. Denis Jenkins is a pioneering figure in the field of neuroplasticity, known for his innovative approach to transforming neuropathways through cognitive training. Beginning his career as an educator in the Australian school system, his passion for helping students with learning difficulties unlock their full potential led him to collaborate with Helga Rowe from the Max Planck Institute in pioneering advancements in learning acceleration and understanding learning dysfunction. Recognised with the Australian Centennial Medal for his significant contributions to learning and behavioural change, Denis continues to work with individuals ranging from high school students to CEOs, empowering disadvantaged learners to become effective leaders in both communities and organisations. The executive leadership blueprint in building trust and strong organisational cultures is the foundation of his work. To learn more about the authors and their work visit: https://mutualitythefutureoftrust.com/ TOPICS OF CONVERSATION The Shift from Transactional to Relational Trust Traditional workplace trust is based on performance and dependability, but lasting success requires relational trust—building genuine connections, fostering vulnerability, and enabling open communication. Without relational trust, commitment and collaboration suffer. Mutuality is the Key to Trust (Not the Other Way Around) Organizations struggle to build trust because they focus on measuring it rather than creating it. Mutuality—shared understanding and support—lays the foundation for trust. Leaders should start conversations about mutuality instead of trust, as the latter can be polarizing. Cognitive Development Shapes Workplace Relationships Trust and mutuality depend on how people process information. Organizations often fail because they overlook cognitive differences in problem-solving and decision-making. Leaders must recognize and support these differences to create effective, cohesive teams. Mutuality Requires Intentionality, Especially in Remote Work The pandemic proved that mutuality strengthens teams, but remote work removes the informal moments that naturally build trust. Leaders must deliberately foster mutuality by understanding who their employees are, not just what they do. Workplace Structures and Policies Can Undermine Trust Many corporate policies and hierarchies are built on distrust, delegating tasks without granting authority. Instead of enforcing rigid structures, organizations should prioritize mutuality—encouraging responsibility, diverse thinking, and proactive problem-solving.

In this episode, Krista and Will Van Derveer dive into the power of relational agreements and how they help couples navigate cultural conditioning, power dynamics, and historical wounds. They share their personal journey of creating a partnership built on mutuality and responsibility—key ingredients for a thriving, purpose-driven relationship. Tune in for insights on how agreements can foster growth, repair, and deeper connection in your own relationship.“The Art Of We” podcast with Krista Van Derveer and Dr. Will Van Derveer(00:00) Introduction: Why mutuality and cultural conditioning matter in relationships(02:15) The origin of their relational agreements and how they became wedding vows(06:45) Why agreements are essential for navigating challenges and preventing resentment(09:30) Overcoming gendered conditioning: Housework, emotional labor, and sharing responsibility(14:20) Personal reflections: How past wounds shape relational dynamics(18:45) The power of speaking up: Creating a safe space for emotional expression(22:15) How agreements help rewrite the stories we carry from past relationships(26:40) Practical steps: How to start creating mutual agreements with your partner(30:20) Conversation prompts: How to surface unspoken dynamics and unmet needs(35:00) Final thoughts: The importance of evolving agreements as relationships growReach out with your thoughts, experiences, and topics you want to hear about. We love hearing from our listeners!Resources Mentioned: Our Top 10 Relationship Agreements Get in Touch: The Art Of We WebsiteThe Art of We Instagram Integrative Psychiatry Institute: Psychedelic Therapy TrainingRate, Review & Follow on Apple Podcasts: If you want to show your support for this show, please consider rating and reviewing The Art of We on Apple Podcasts. To do that, open the Apple Podcasts app and search for The Art of We. Scroll to the bottom of the package and rate with 5 stars. Let us know your favorite part of the show by clicking “Write a Review.” While you're at it, follow the show so you can get the latest episode delivered to your phone weekly. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or on your favorite podcast platform.

On the second Sunday after Epiphany, Lilly Ettinger wonders what happens when we look at spiritual gifts less as markers of our individual superiority and more like gifts to further our common good. [1 Corinthians 12:4-11]   Reflection Where do you find communities of mutuality in your life? Where are you looking for them or hoping to find them? Where have I seen the beauty of community flourishing, and how can I participate more fully in that? What role does vulnerability play in the strength of a community, and how am I invited to lean into it?

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This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. In this special two-part interview, we're joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and author of Non-Toxic Masculinity, to discuss the role unhelpful views of masculinity impact how women and men function together.    Guest Bio  Zachary Wagner is a writer, researcher, and ordained minister––thinker of thoughts and feeler of feelings who lives in Chicagoland. He is pursuing a DPhil (PhD) in New Testament studies at Keble College, University of Oxford. He also serves as the director of Programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians, where he co-hosts the CPT Podcast. His research interests include economics in the ancient world, divine wages in Second Temple Judaism and early Christianity, Pauline epistles, the Gospel of Matthew, and New Testament masculinities. His first book, Non-Toxic Masculinity: Recovering Healthy Male Sexuality, was published in 2023 with Intervarsity Press. Zach's other writing interests include evangelical and “post-vangelical” Christian discipleship, theological formation, and speaking against church-based abuse.  Buy Zachary's book, Non-Toxic Masculinity  Follow Zachary on Instagram and X  Read “Broken Masculinity” on the Center for Pastor Theologians      Related Resources  New Voices: Non-Toxic Masculinity with Zachary Wagner  Jesus' Vision for Masculinity: The (Actual) Best A Man Can Get  My Kingdom for A World of Such Men: 3 Hallmarks of Healthy Masculinity    Disclaimer  The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Even with all the conversations and tools available to us around the subject of hospitality, it is easy to engage in the pursuit of it in a way that ends up not resonating and lacks meaning. We can go through the motions, inspired as we are by the example of others, and not see the magic we assumed would follow our efforts. So, what does running a coffee shop with meaningful hospitality look like?  Today we are going to deep dive into this subject and breakdown for you in detail the areas, levels, and methods for engaging in and cultivating meaningful hospitality both across the bar and behind it.  We cover:  How meaningful hospitality as a lifestyle and conviction. Why aligning business values with operations is crucial Recognizing and rewarding positive actions  How building trust takes time and consistent effort Every interaction should validate the customer's significance. Why protection and accountability is important in meaningful hospitality Where patience and understanding human needs is fit in effective hospitality Understanding individual needs is crucial for effective service Why systems should support the values of the business Consistent application of standards is essential for fairness Mutuality and co-creation enhance the hospitality experience Why emotional metrics are as important as numerical ones Continuous learning is vital for hospitality providers Letting go of outdated practices is necessary for growth This was originally a talk developed for a webinar put on by our coffee friend, Sarah Naylor of Day Break Coffee cart.  See the link below to learn more about what she does!  Link: www.daybreakcoffeecart.com   Related episodes:  430 : Embracing “Unreasonable Hospitality” w/ Will Guidara | Thank You NYC + The Welcome Conference 424: Developing Menu and Hospitality Guides 421: Encore Episode: Simple, Powerful, Hospitality w/ Philip Paul Turner 343 : Founder Friday! “Curated Edition” | Hospitality + Meeting People Where They Are Spiders and Customer Service 271 : Why the Cash Register Controls Everything The Broken Chair The Difference of Deference to your Staff Systems as Care   INTERESTED IN 1:1 CONSULTING AND COACHING? If you are a cafe owner and want to work one on one with me to bring your shop to its next level and help bring you joy and freedom in the process then email  chris@keystothshop.com of book a free call now:  https://calendly.com/chrisdeferio/30min  Want a beautiful coffee shop? All your hard surface, stone, Tile and brick needs!  www.arto.com Visit @artobrick The world loves plant based beverages and baristas love the Barista Series! www.pacificfoodservice.com  

ok, friends. We've been way behind! The conversation you're hearing on this episode with Nate was actually recorded a few months ago and the intro is even from a few weeks ago. Life has been coming at us fast and we've simply been way behind on all things for the pod. We're so glad to finally be getting this one out and can't wait for you to hear our conversation with Nate Nakao! Nate is a hobbyist, activist, writer, nerd, ice hockey fan and coach, and a PC gaming enthusiast. For his 9-5, he works in media and marketing for the law school at a nationally recognized state university. Nate identifies as a cisgender, heterosexual Asian-American man. https://fullmutuality.com/ and is a co-founder of Dauntless Media (https://dauntless.fm/) which is our podcast network! We're so grateful to know Nate and get to work with him on so many projects. We hope you take the time to check out all his work after listening to today's episode! If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/ThereafterPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat with us in Twitter spaces on Tuesday mornings in deconstruction coffee hour! Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@ThereafterPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@CortlandCoffey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@ThePursuingLife⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram/Threads: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@ThereafterPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@CortlandCoffey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@ThePursuingLife Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/cortland.me https://bsky.app/profile/thepursuinglife.bsky.social

Preaching for the Feast of the Holy Family. Ellen Romer Niemiec offers a reflection on mutuality: "In a time when it may seem safest to preserve ourselves as individuals and avoid the risk of vulnerability, may we heed God's radical invitation to love one another deeply and courageously. May we choose to trust that when we act out of love for one another, that love will be shared in return and enkindle in us the desire to only love more deeply." Ellen Romer Niemiec currently serves in enrollment management at Catholic Theological Union, where she is also pursing a Doctor of Ministry. She has pastoral experience in retreats, international immersions, non-violence work in correctional facilities, program development, and spiritual direction. She has written prayers and other spiritual reflections for Wisdom's Dwelling, Catholic Health Association, GIA publications, FemCatholic, and America Media. Visit www.catholicwomenpreach.org/preaching/12292024 to learn more about Ellen, to read her preaching text, and for more preaching from Catholic women.

reference: Sri Aurobindo and the Mother, Powers Within, Chapter XIII Power of Identification, pp. 110-112 This episode is also available as a blog post at https://sriaurobindostudies.wordpress.com/2024/12/09/an-expanding-consciousness-recognises-the-inherent-oneness-and-mutuality-of-all-existence/ Video presentations, interviews and podcast episodes are all available on the YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@santoshkrinsky871 More information about Sri Aurobindo can be found at www.aurobindo.net  The US editions and links to e-book editions of Sri Aurobindo's writings can be found at Lotus Press www.lotuspress.com 

A talk given at Berkeley Zen Center on Friday, December 6th 2024 by Judy Fleischman.

> Sign Up For Our Newsletter: http://www.firsthuman.com/being-human-newsletter/ My guest this week, Jay Jakub, started his professional journey as a strategist for Mars, Inc., where for 14 years, he navigated the corridors of the global headquarters.  As part of the chief economist's team, he worked with Mars' internal think tank with a groundbreaking idea: the "Economics of Mutuality." The idea? That by investing in social, natural and human capital, you can increase your returns on financial capital.  It erases the idea that investments outside the four walls of the business need to be traded off against profit. His work proves that it's possible to achieve win-win-win-win's. We discuss: The four types of capital Chewing gum for good Improving DIY sales by getting homeowners to trust handymen Measuring Natural Capital How Stakeholder Capitalism can appeal to the Left and the Right Links: The Economics Of Mutuality Alliance Jay's LinkedIn Profile Completing Capitalism - The Book

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A new MP3 sermon from Founders Baptist Church is now available on SermonAudio with the following details: Title: Mutuality & Confidence In Ministry Subtitle: Series - 2 Thessalonians 2024 Speaker: Richard Caldwell Jr. Broadcaster: Founders Baptist Church Event: Sunday - AM Date: 11/10/2024 Bible: 2 Thessalonians 3:1-5 Length: 40 min.

Segments 00:00 Intro 01:57 What is public relations? 03:15 Mutually beneficial relations 05:08 Audiences that define your success 07:02 What to expect in season 2 Season 2 of Brand New Thought focuses on the intersection of peak performance, wellbeing & strategic communications. In episode 1, Razmik talks about the essence of public relations. Discover the rule of mutuality (reciprocity) and audience awareness in creating a communication architecture that supports your objectives. If you run a transformational business, explore research-based in tips on how to find clients at https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-research-reveals-marketing-coaching-meditation-razmik-sargsyan-zs9te/ Learn more at https://www.brandnewthought.com/ #marketing #publicrelations #communications #wellbeing #performance #productivity

In this episode, Mimi Haddad and Kim Dickson interview Dr. Salim Munayer about his work on reconciliation in the Holy Lands. During the first half of the interview, he describes the steps involved in difficult reconciliations. In the second half of the interview, he discusses Jesus's counter-cultural inclusion of women and their necessary inclusion in creating a lasting peace in the world.    Guest Bio  Salim J. Munayer is executive director and founder of Musalaha Ministry of Reconciliation, which has been bringing Israelis and Palestinian together since 1990 and creating a forum for reconciliation. Salim is a Palestinian-Israeli born in Lod as one of six children and received his BA from Tel Aviv University in History and Geography, his MA from Fuller Theological Seminary, graduate studies in New Testament from Pepperdine University and his PhD from the Oxford Center of Mission Studies in the UK. His doctoral dissertation was written on “The Ethnic Identity of Palestinian Arab Christian Adolescents in Israel.” He has published several books on reconciliation, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and Christians in Israel and the Palestinian authority, his most recent work is Through My Enemy's Eyes: Envisioning Reconciliation in Israel-Palestine, co-authored with Lisa Loden. Salim served as academic dean of the Bethlehem Bible College from 1989 to 2008 and is a professor at the college. He is also an adjunct professor at Fuller Theological Seminary and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Salim is married to Kay, founder of the Daylight Project, a charity that advocates for social justice among the marginalized in Palestinian and Israeli society. She is also a contributing writer on Another's Voice, a blog by women providing hopeful perspectives in the midst of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Together they have four adult sons, Jack, Daniel, John, and Sam.    Other Resources  Dr. Salim Munayer began Musalaha: A Vision of Reconciliation  Erica Chenoweth was referenced in this interview. Foreign Policy has recognized Chenoweth as one of the top scholars addressing nonviolent resistance and wrote: Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict.   To learn more about Christianity in the Holy Lands listen to the Mutuality Matters Global Impact Interview with Grace Al-Zoughbi  Like Dr. Munayer describing seeing his own struggles in scripture, read Grace Al-Zoughbi's Mutuality article: God's Surprising Hesed: Reading Ruth as a Palestinian Woman    Disclaimer   The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.  

Maturity stages build on each other.  They have a compounding effect.  You cannot fully complete any stage without having completed the one before it, so it's important to go back and check for gaps and work on getting those closed up, so you can more fully be who God created you to be in your current stage of life.You will know when a person has graduated from the child level of maturity to the adult level because he will shift from being a self-centered child to a both-centered adult. While a child needs to learn me-centered fairness (how do I make it fair for me), an adult learns we-centered fairness (how do I make it fair for us). Mutuality is the trademark of an adult because he can take care of two people at the same time.Join Tennison and Ginelle as they conclude the Adult stage of maturity and look at some of the obvious holes that you will see in adults who have not fully matured in the this stage. Learn the importance of community and the benefits it brings as you are growing into a mature adult!If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#donateTo sign up for the Relational Marriage Retreat go to tableandwell.org/marriage To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call For more information about Table Experiences: tableandwell.org/tablesTo start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org/introTo watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co

Maturity stages build on each other.  They have a compounding effect.  You cannot fully complete any stage without having completed the one before it, so it's important to go back and check for gaps and work on getting those closed up, so you can more fully be who God created you to be in your current stage of life.You will know when a person has graduated from the child level of maturity to the adult level because he will shift from being a self-centered child to a both-centered adult. While a child needs to learn me-centered fairness (how do I make it fair for me), an adult learns we-centered fairness (how do I make it fair for us). Mutuality is the trademark of an adult because he can take care of two people at the same time.Join Tennison and Ginelle as they continue to unpack the Adult stage of maturity. In this episode they will lean into the Adult stage needs and tasks in order to be fully mature in this stage of maturity.  If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#donateTo sign up for the Relational Marriage Retreat go to tableandwell.org/marriage To learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call For more information about Table Experiences: tableandwell.org/tablesTo start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org/introTo watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co

Maturity stages build on each other.  They have a compounding effect.  You cannot fully complete any stage without having completed the one before it, so it's important to go back and check for gaps and work on getting those closed up, so you can more fully be who God created you to be in your current stage of life.You will know when a person has graduated from the child level of maturity to the adult level because he will shift from being a self-centered child to a both-centered adult. While a child needs to learn me-centered fairness (how do I make it fair for me), an adult learns we-centered fairness (how do I make it fair for us). Mutuality is the trademark of an adult because he can take care of two people at the same time.Join Tennison and Ginelle as they begin the next stage of maturity--- the Adult Maturity Stage. Listen in as they unpack the early years this stage and the three most important this to "young adults"; Relationship, Power and Truth.If you have been impacted by what you have heard in this podcast and would like to support us in our mission to help people experience healthier & deeper relationships with God, themselves, and others, go to: tableandwell.org/#donateTo learn how we can help develop your community, family or team: Schedule Interest Call For more information about Table Experiences: tableandwell.org/tablesTo start on your journey to relational health go to: tableandwell.org/introTo watch this and other Podcast go to our YouTube Channel: Table & Well co

Summary of Chapter 10: Res Judicata and Collateral Estoppel. Res Judicata (Claim Preclusion): Res judicata, also known as claim preclusion, prevents parties from re-litigating claims that have already been resolved in a previous lawsuit. This doctrine applies when the following elements are met: Identity of Parties: The parties in both the original and subsequent lawsuits must be the same or in privity with each other. Identity of Claims: The claims in both cases must arise from the same transaction or occurrence. Final Judgment on the Merits: The prior case must have been resolved with a final judgment that addressed the substance of the claims. Res judicata ensures the finality of judgments, promotes judicial efficiency, and protects parties from the burden of repetitive litigation. Exceptions to Res Judicata: Despite its broad application, there are exceptions to res judicata to prevent injustice, including: Lack of Jurisdiction: If the court lacked jurisdiction in the original case, res judicata does not apply. Fraud or Misrepresentation: Judgments obtained through fraudulent means can be challenged. New Evidence: If new, critical evidence is discovered that could not have been found during the original trial, the case may be re-litigated. These exceptions ensure that the doctrine is applied fairly and does not perpetuate an unjust result. Collateral Estoppel (Issue Preclusion): Collateral estoppel, or issue preclusion, prevents the re-litigation of specific issues that were already decided in a previous case, even if the current case involves a different claim. The key elements are: Identical Issue: The issue in the current litigation must be the same as the one decided in the prior case. Actually Litigated: The issue must have been fully litigated and decided in the previous case. Essential to Judgment: The issue must have been essential to the final judgment in the previous case. Collateral estoppel promotes judicial efficiency and consistency by preventing the same issues from being litigated multiple times. Mutuality and Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: Traditionally, collateral estoppel required mutuality, meaning that only the parties involved in the original case could benefit from or be burdened by the issue preclusion. However, modern courts have recognized non-mutual issue preclusion, which allows parties who were not involved in the original case to benefit from or be bound by the issue preclusion. There are two types: Defensive Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: A defendant uses the prior loss of a plaintiff against another defendant to prevent re-litigation. Offensive Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: A plaintiff uses a prior judgment against the defendant to prevent re-litigation. Courts exercise discretion in applying non-mutual issue preclusion, balancing fairness and judicial efficiency. Conclusion: Chapter 10 examines the doctrines of res judicata and collateral estoppel, which are critical in maintaining the finality of judgments and preventing the re-litigation of claims and issues that have been previously resolved. By understanding the elements, exceptions, and applications of these doctrines, legal practitioners can better navigate the complexities of civil litigation and ensure that justice is served efficiently and fairly. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/law-school/support

Summary of Chapter 10: Res Judicata and Collateral Estoppel. Res Judicata (Claim Preclusion): Res judicata, also known as claim preclusion, prevents parties from re-litigating claims that have already been resolved in a previous lawsuit. This doctrine applies when the following elements are met: Identity of Parties: The parties in both the original and subsequent lawsuits must be the same or in privity with each other. Identity of Claims: The claims in both cases must arise from the same transaction or occurrence. Final Judgment on the Merits: The prior case must have been resolved with a final judgment that addressed the substance of the claims. Res judicata ensures the finality of judgments, promotes judicial efficiency, and protects parties from the burden of repetitive litigation. Exceptions to Res Judicata: Despite its broad application, there are exceptions to res judicata to prevent injustice, including: Lack of Jurisdiction: If the court lacked jurisdiction in the original case, res judicata does not apply. Fraud or Misrepresentation: Judgments obtained through fraudulent means can be challenged. New Evidence: If new, critical evidence is discovered that could not have been found during the original trial, the case may be re-litigated. These exceptions ensure that the doctrine is applied fairly and does not perpetuate an unjust result. Collateral Estoppel (Issue Preclusion): Collateral estoppel, or issue preclusion, prevents the re-litigation of specific issues that were already decided in a previous case, even if the current case involves a different claim. The key elements are: Identical Issue: The issue in the current litigation must be the same as the one decided in the prior case. Actually Litigated: The issue must have been fully litigated and decided in the previous case. Essential to Judgment: The issue must have been essential to the final judgment in the previous case. Collateral estoppel promotes judicial efficiency and consistency by preventing the same issues from being litigated multiple times. Mutuality and Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: Traditionally, collateral estoppel required mutuality, meaning that only the parties involved in the original case could benefit from or be burdened by the issue preclusion. However, modern courts have recognized non-mutual issue preclusion, which allows parties who were not involved in the original case to benefit from or be bound by the issue preclusion. There are two types: Defensive Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: A defendant uses the prior loss of a plaintiff against another defendant to prevent re-litigation. Offensive Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: A plaintiff uses a prior judgment against the defendant to prevent re-litigation. Courts exercise discretion in applying non-mutual issue preclusion, balancing fairness and judicial efficiency. Conclusion: Chapter 10 examines the doctrines of res judicata and collateral estoppel, which are critical in maintaining the finality of judgments and preventing the re-litigation of claims and issues that have been previously resolved. By understanding the elements, exceptions, and applications of these doctrines, legal practitioners can better navigate the complexities of civil litigation and ensure that justice is served efficiently and fairly. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/law-school/support

Summary of Chapter 10: Res Judicata and Collateral Estoppel. Res Judicata (Claim Preclusion): Res judicata, also known as claim preclusion, prevents parties from re-litigating claims that have already been resolved in a previous lawsuit. This doctrine applies when the following elements are met: Identity of Parties: The parties in both the original and subsequent lawsuits must be the same or in privity with each other. Identity of Claims: The claims in both cases must arise from the same transaction or occurrence. Final Judgment on the Merits: The prior case must have been resolved with a final judgment that addressed the substance of the claims. Res judicata ensures the finality of judgments, promotes judicial efficiency, and protects parties from the burden of repetitive litigation. Exceptions to Res Judicata: Despite its broad application, there are exceptions to res judicata to prevent injustice, including: Lack of Jurisdiction: If the court lacked jurisdiction in the original case, res judicata does not apply. Fraud or Misrepresentation: Judgments obtained through fraudulent means can be challenged. New Evidence: If new, critical evidence is discovered that could not have been found during the original trial, the case may be re-litigated. These exceptions ensure that the doctrine is applied fairly and does not perpetuate an unjust result. Collateral Estoppel (Issue Preclusion): Collateral estoppel, or issue preclusion, prevents the re-litigation of specific issues that were already decided in a previous case, even if the current case involves a different claim. The key elements are: Identical Issue: The issue in the current litigation must be the same as the one decided in the prior case. Actually Litigated: The issue must have been fully litigated and decided in the previous case. Essential to Judgment: The issue must have been essential to the final judgment in the previous case. Collateral estoppel promotes judicial efficiency and consistency by preventing the same issues from being litigated multiple times. Mutuality and Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: Traditionally, collateral estoppel required mutuality, meaning that only the parties involved in the original case could benefit from or be burdened by the issue preclusion. However, modern courts have recognized non-mutual issue preclusion, which allows parties who were not involved in the original case to benefit from or be bound by the issue preclusion. There are two types: Defensive Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: A defendant uses the prior loss of a plaintiff against another defendant to prevent re-litigation. Offensive Non-Mutual Issue Preclusion: A plaintiff uses a prior judgment against the defendant to prevent re-litigation. Courts exercise discretion in applying non-mutual issue preclusion, balancing fairness and judicial efficiency. Conclusion: Chapter 10 examines the doctrines of res judicata and collateral estoppel, which are critical in maintaining the finality of judgments and preventing the re-litigation of claims and issues that have been previously resolved. By understanding the elements, exceptions, and applications of these doctrines, legal practitioners can better navigate the complexities of civil litigation and ensure that justice is served efficiently and fairly. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/law-school/support

Have you ever thought about how you can solve the world's problems with your ideas? Dr. Jay Jakub believes that businesses can better position itself to solve the bigger problem; whether it be social, or environmental. He recounts the origins of the Economics of Mutuality (EOM) from his time as  Senior Director for External Research at Mars, Inc., and how he learned first-hand that businesses can shift from profit-centric models to purpose-driven practices that leverage social, human, and natural capitals.Join us as we explore the evolving landscape of stakeholder vs. shareholder capitalism, the challenges and opportunities of artificial intelligence (AI) and the vital role of business schools in fostering a broader, purpose-driven curriculum to drive folks to embrace a more conscious approach to business.**If you enjoy this podcast, would you consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes only a few seconds and greatly helps us get our podcast out to a wider audience.Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts / Spotify / Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.For transcripts and show notes, please go to: https://www.theconsciouscapitalists.comThis show is presented by Conscious Capitalism, Inc. (https://www.consciouscapitalism.org/) and is produced by Rainbow Creative (https://www.rainbowcreative.co/) with Matthew Jones as Executive Producer, Rithu Jagannath as Lead Producer, and Nathan Wheatley as Editor.Thank you for your support!- Timothy & RajTime Stamps00:00 Merging Companies for Mutual Transformation01:12 Meet Dr. Jay Jakub: A Leader in Economics of Mutuality02:40 Understanding Economics of Mutuality04:07 Core Elements of Economics of Mutuality07:59 The Origins of Economics of Mutuality at Mars10:50 Implementing Stakeholder Capitalism18:55 Case Study: Novo Nordisk's Purpose Transformation23:08 Mars' Application of Economics of Mutuality26:29 Purpose-Driven Business Strategies29:48 Healing Business Through Mutual Value Creation32:12 Sponsor Message: 2024 Conscious Capitalism CEO Summit33:02 Personal Journeys and Faith34:32 Transition from Government to Business35:35 Advice for CEOs on Conscious Capitalism38:10 Challenges of Short-Term Market Focus43:04 Private Equity and Purpose-Driven Investments46:16 Navigating ESG and Compliance49:48 Stakeholder Orientation and Decision-Making52:33 Business Education and Conscious Capitalism01:02:29 Impact of AI on Economics of Mutuality01:05:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

In this episode of Tiny Pulpit Talks, Revs. Beth and T. J. talk about our upcoming sermon series "Foundations," which is inspired by James Luther Adams' essay “Guiding Principles of a Free Faith." In his essay, Adams introduces the 5 smooth stones of liberal religion, ideas that we use throughout our Faith Forward offerings and religious education. Whether you're new to our church or looking to deepen your understanding of Unitarian Universalism, this series is perfect for you. Join us on this enlightening journey to discover and embrace the principles that shape our faith community. 00:00 - New sermon series starts on Sunday! 01:50 - Introducing the theologian James Luther Adams. 04:26 - Stone #1: Revelation is continuous. 05:19 - Stone #2: Mutuality. 06:01 - Stone #3: Justice. 06:49 - Stone #4: Social Incarnation. 08:48 - Stone #5: Hope. Tiny Pulpit Talks is a podcast series from First Unitarian Church of Dallas that takes a behind-the-scenes look at ministry from a Unitarian Universalist perspective. This is a rare opportunity to see what goes into crafting meaningful and inspirational sermons, learn how worship comes together each Sunday, and explore the many facets of spiritual leadership. Subscribe to get updates about new episodes here on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts.

Themes: Relationships, Partnership, Power, Interdependence, Co-dependence, Unhealthy Relationships, Healthy Relationships, Mutuality, Conscious CouplesIn this solo episode, Empowered Connection Podcast host Daniel Cordua helps the listener navigate the tricky relational terrain of power dynamics in our most important relationships - namely, partnership.To help give more awareness, tools, and empowerment around how to traverse power in partnership, this episode explores"- Why discussing power dynamics and "doing power" consciously is important in partnership- The three general types of power: power over, power under, or power with- Why certain power dynamics are extremely unhealthy in our partnership - What is an "interdependent relationship" and how can we establish one- 5 Tips on how to explore and develop sharing power in our relationship with more mutuality and interdependenceand much more!*Connect with Daniel for your Free Discovery Session -  for individuals + couples who are ready to explore, illuminate + empower their lives & their relationshipsSUMMER SALE ! Get 25% OFF all coaching journeys and packages by mentioning Empowered ConnectionPartnership Full of Possibility for 2024 - for couples ready to up-level their partnership and create more intimacy + deeper connection.Find Daily Relationship Tools + Tips & Self Growth + Empowerment Practices with Damodar on Instagram - @empoweredconnection.me*Sponsored by our adored, organic and hand-crafted with intention healing product line Bhava Wellness - RECEIVE 15% OFF  by using the code EMPOWEREDCONNECTION (one word, all caps) at checkout!EMPOWERED CONNECTION

INTERVIEW: AOSI on new single 'Mended Mutuality' by Zac Hoffman on Radio One 91FM Dunedin

Looking at the biblical narrative from creation to Jesus to the early church, we explore the invitation to mutuality and an egalitarian posture.

Register here: https://www.cbeinternational.org/event/mimi-haddad-will-lead-a-workshop-at-cbes-denver-conference-tell-her-story-women-in-scripture-and-history/ "Dr. Mimi Haddad serves as president and CEO of CBE International. She has taught as an adjunct associate professor of historical theology at Fuller Theological Seminary, Olivet University and has taught for institutes and organizations worldwide.... Mimi is an award-winning author and has written more than one hundred fifty academic, popular, and blog articles for Ashland Theological Journal; The Campbellsville Review, Catalyst, Christian Ethics Today, Christianity Today, Evangelical Fellowship of India and the Evangelical Fellowship of India Commission on Relief; Her.menuetics; Sojourners; and the William Carey Development Journal, and CBE's journals, Mutuality and Priscilla Papers." [https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/mimi-haddad/] Help sustain the work of RLC: www.redletterchristians.org/donate/ To check out what RLC is up to, please visit us www.redletterchristians.org  Follow us on Twitter: @RedLetterXians Instagram: @RedLetterXians Follow Shane on Instagram: @shane.claiborne Twitter: @ShaneClaiborne Intro song by Common Hymnal: https://commonhymnal.com/ 

When we think we need to be in control of everything, we become anxious about our capacity to control.  Letting our sense of control go and trusting in God and the provision that God has offered seems so terribly hard. What happens when we lose track of the fact that we're part of the magnificently interconnected system, and we begin to imagine that we can, or even that we must function on our own?Sermon begins at minute marker Leviticus 26:3-22, 34-35, 40-45ResourcesBibleWorm podcast Blessing: Adapted by Liz from RCA Prayer for Godspeed and FarewellImage by Felix Mittermeier on pexels Voices Together Hymn: 145, Touch the Earth Lightly Text: Shirley Erena Murray (Aotearoa New Zealand), © 1992 Hope Publishing Co.  Music: Swee Hong Lim (Canada); arr. Tamryn Parker-Carver (USA), © 2005 Hope Publishing Co. Permission to podcast the music in this service obtained from One License with license #A-726929. All rights reserved.

At the core of our civilizational breakdown is an extractive economy that wastes both nature and people, at the same time it is Hoovering extreme wealth up to the billionaire class. But with breakdown comes breakthrough. Professor Manuel Pastor believes we're living through a moment of profound transformation. It will come down to what we do – or don't do – at this moment of radical change. In this episode, we hear from Pastor on how shocks to the system are precipitating a great awakening and growing movements to transform the economy to our economy. Featuring Manuel Pastor, Ph.D., Distinguished Professor of Sociology and American Studies & Ethnicity at USC and Director of its Equity Research Institute, has long been one of the most important scholars and activists working on the economic, environmental and social conditions facing low-income urban communities and the social movements seeking to change those realities. He has held many prominent academic posts, won countless prestigious awards and fellowships for his activism and scholarship, and is the author and co-author of many important, highly influential tomes. Resources Solidarity Economics: Why Mutuality and Movements Matter | 2021 Book by Manuel Pastor and Chris Benner SolidarityEconomics.org | Joint Project of the Equity Research Center (ERI) at the University of Southern California and the Institute for Social Transformation at UC Santa Cruz Manuel Pastor – Solidarity Economics: Mutuality, Movements and Momentum | 2021 Bioneers Keynote Address Solidarity Economics: Our Economy, Our Planet, Our Movements | 2021 Bioneers Panel Bioneers Reader: Our Economic Future | Free eBook This is an episode of the Bioneers: Revolution from the Heart of Nature series. Visit the radio and podcast homepage to learn more.

Stacy Feiner and Jack Harris, co-authors of  The Sixth Level: Capitalize on the Power of Women's Psychology for Sustainable Leadership. They make the case that current leadership models are missing critical elements and offer an addition to Maslow's five-model Hierarchy of Needs. Feiner and Harris suggest that this Sixth Level is women's unique ability to move between the analytical side and the emotional side of the brain which they call the ‘art of toggling'. Mutuality, ingenuity, justice, and intrinsic motivation, they believe, could elevate communities to work collaboratively and justly, and eliminate an outdated model of command and control. Further reading links:https://www.thesixthlevel.com/

This episode begins with news! Layla and Rob's podcast thread is changing, from a solitary focus on how mixed-gender ministry partnerships work in the field to a wider discussion about how egalitarians can practically engage not just interpersonal dynamics, but systems, theology, culture, and more. And the best guests to talk about this shift? Layla and Rob! Join the hosts as they answer listener-generated questions about podcasting as a medium, what they've learned along the way, their own history as partners, and what their hopes are for the church going forward.     00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters: Embracing Egalitarian Convictions  00:46 Shifting Focus: Broadening the Conversation Beyond Ministry Partnerships  01:56 Celebrating Our Journey: A Self-Interview on Mixed Gender Partnerships  05:24 Listener Q&A: Insights and Anecdotes from Behind the Scenes  09:06 Challenges and Opportunities: Learning from Our Podcasting Experience  20:51 Reflecting on Partnership: Our Personal Journey and Future Hopes  28:46 Gratitude and Goodbyes: Wrapping Up the Podcast Thread    Bios:    Layla Van Gerpen has served with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship for over twenty years in California and Nevada. She also serves on the preaching team at her church, Midtown Vineyard. She is passionate about developing leaders, especially around areas of race and gender. As a Lebanese/Japanese daughter of immigrants, Layla grew up with a deep love for hospitality, cross-cultural relationships, and advocacy work. Together with her husband, Daniel, they find joy raising their two boys, Everett and Grant.    Rob Dixon lives in central California with his wife Amy and their four children, and works as a campus minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. He earned a Doctor of Intercultural Studies degree at Fuller Theological Seminary, where he focused on discerning the attributes of flourishing mixed-gender ministry partnerships. Rob is the author of Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships. In his free time, Rob roots for the Dodgers, teaches at Fresno Pacific University, and plays as much pickleball as possible. Find him online at drrobdixon.com.    Related Resources:    Women and Men Leading Together: The Value of Shared Partnerships from a Gen. Z Perspective with Tim Bushra    Women and Men Leading Together: “Call Her What She Is” with Maddie Cummings and Brooke Pland    Women and Men Leading Together: The Journey to Mutuality with Kim and Andrew Feil      Disclaimer:  The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Summary In this conversation, Tim responds to a viral clip of a mega church pastor giving marriage advice. He critiques the pastor's perspective on marriage, particularly the gendered and stereotypical views that men don't care about weddings and women's bodies belong to their husbands. Tim argues that this mentality wreaks havoc on people, especially women, and promotes unhealthy dynamics in marriages. He also discusses the damaging effects of purity culture and the lack of comprehensive sex education in evangelicalism. Tim concludes by urging for a more mutual and respectful approach to marriage. Takeaways Gendered and stereotypical views in marriage advice can be harmful and promote unhealthy dynamics. Purity culture teachings can lead to unsatisfactory sex lives and unhealthy marriages. Comprehensive sex education and open communication are essential for a healthy and mutual marriage. Mutuality and respect should be prioritized in marriages, rather than rigid gender roles. Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you've been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We've built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cody talks to Ilana Reimer about faith, editing, and the arts. Ilana Reimer is the editor of Love Is Moving. She studied journalism at Algonquin College and has worked as a freelance journalist and book editor since 2015. Her essays, poetry, and articles have appeared in a number of publications including Ekstasis, Breaking Ground, Faith Today, and Mutuality. In 2022, she was named a Cardus NextGEN Fellow. Ilana is passionate about championing and equipping Christian creators, believing they can be voices of influence, prophecy, and wisdom in our culture. She lives in Vancouver with her husband.

When it comes to the integration of faith and work, it is never generic but always specific to the context we are in. The conversations around faith and work in a white collar setting are going to be drastically different than the conversations and questions of those working at the margins. In this episode, Abraham Cho and Kimberly Deckel explore how tangible expressions of how faith and work have been integrated in their cities and churches. But what's clear from the perspective of these two practitioners (Abraham and Kimberly) is that a missing link in the faith and work conversation is the necessity of having mutuality with those at the margins. Without genuine friendship with the overlooked and the poor, we will lack the necessary relational knowledge needed to steward our power effectively in industries and workplaces. Listen in as we imagine together in this podcast what flourishing for all might look like when the margins are centered. RESOURCES RELATED TO THIS EPISODE Learn more about City to City's Global Faith and Work Initiative: https://www.globalfaithandwork.com Learn more about Kimberly's Church: Church of the Cross Austin https://www.cotcaustin.org Learn more about the Surge Network https://www.surgenetwork.com TIME STAMPS Introduction to the series and Bios 00:00 In the faith and work space, what has your work been about in recent years? 2:05 How the conversation of faith and work is different depending on your context and invites you to take the posture of a learner 5:30 How the simple and ordinary practices in our workplaces are the catalyst for a rich expression for faith and work integration 9:40 How different traditions (that we are often unaware of) can provide beautiful windows of tangible ways faith and work can come together 13:50 How the only way to faithfully steward our power is through developing a mutuality of relationship with those at the margins 23:57 How a vision of genuine friendship and Kingdom collaboration is being imagined in New York City and Austin, Texas 34:08 How do we understand God as a good worker in the way he operates in our cities and prayers we have for flourishing in the years to come 44:06

In this episode, Kim Dickson and Amber Burgess interview Dr. Karen H. Jobes about Esther. As a lifetime teaching professor, Dr. Jobes skillfully explains the academic complexities of Esther in a way that brings her listeners along to understand the significance of Esther's story in the broader canon. She describes how Mordechai's challenge to Esther that she is in her position “for such a time as this,” causes Esther to come into her own, fulfilling who God had created her to be. Dr. Jobes demonstrates how Mordechai and Esther work in mutuality, both submitting in obedience to one another's authority. She completes the interview highlighting how the text of Esther demonstrates the scriptural redemptive pattern of bringing life from death.     Bio   Karen H. Jobes is the Gerald F. Hawthorne Professor Emerita of New Testament Greek and Exegesis at Wheaton College and Graduate School (Illinois).  She earned her doctorate in Biblical Hermeneutics at Westminster Theological Seminary (Philadelphia, 1995) and has served as a tenured professor at Westmont College (Santa Barbara, CA, 1996–2005) and at Wheaton (2005–2015). She was a translator on the NIV Committee for Bible Translation for many years and is the author of several books and many journal articles. Her research specialty has been the Septuagint as a literary and exegetical background for New Testament interpretation. Jobes is a member of Oreland Evangelical Presbyterian Church and serves as an elder on Session there.      Other Resources    Contact Dr. Karen Jobes at karen.jobes@wheaton.edu  Books Referenced in Interview:  Karen H. Jobes, Esther: The NIV Application Commentary from Biblical text . . . to contemporary life.  Karen H. Jobes, The Alpha-Text of Esther: In Character and Relationship to the Masoretic Text, SBL Dissertation Series 153.  Michael V. Fox, Character & Ideology in the Book of Esther: Second Edition with a New Postscript on a Decade of Esther Scholarship.    Summary of Karen Jobes as the first woman Evangelical Theological Society (ETS) woman president in: Making Room for Women: 2023 ETS Annual Meeting Recap by Kimberly Dickson    More CBE Resources on Esther  Women in Scripture and Mission: Esther   More Than a Pretty Face  More Than a Beautiful Body: Star Wars, Beauty Standards, and the Imago Dei  Power Brokers: Vashti, Mordecai, and Esther  Women Leaders Navigate the Patriarchal Systems of Family and Church: Young Lee Hertig  Esther: When God Calls for Disobedience  Character Counts  Calling all Deborah's, Esther's and Junias    Disclaimer   The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.    

MOVIE DISCUSSION: The Gospel According To Podcast & Instagram Dave Hallahan of The Gospel According To podcast joins Melvin in discussing one of Dennis Villeneuve's most accessible and celebrated features, Arrival! Topics:(PATREON EXCLUSIVE) 36-minutes of discussing Dave Hallahan's podcast The Gospel According To, their wide-variety of subject matter, the pursuit of media literacy, and the wonder of curation. (PATREON EXCLUSIVE)Dave shares about his podcast The Gospel According To, his meme page @youthgroupmemes, and his Substack "Bottom's Up w/ Dave Hallahan".Melvin asks Dave about his familiarity with Denis Villeneuve's film work, and the two discuss his films.Villeneuve utilizes the 5 senses to serve as various pick-up shots during moments of intense, transfixed awe.Melvin, "What do you think it is that makes, like, movies like this a chore to watch?"Discussing the beauty of the storytelling mantra, "Show, don't tell".Communication is the complexity of a "story in my head" in combined with or against the pursuit of mutuality.Dave sharing thoughts in the spoiler-filled section, "The journey to the hardship is also filled with tremendous joy."Discussing recurrent visuals, symbols, and motifs.The Heptapod B language is a gift because it encourages the self to invest further in the present because of their knowledge of the future.Dave, "The point of knowing 'the ending' is it should motivate our 'right now'".Recommendations:About Time (2013) (Movie)Man on Wire (2008) (Documentary)Terraform: Building a Better World by Propaganda (2021) (Book)On Getting Out of Bed: The Burden and Gift of Living by Alan Noble (2023) (Book)The Taking of Deborah Logan (2014) (Movie) Support the showSupport on Patreon for Unique Perks! Early access to uncut episodes Vote on a movie/show we review One-time reward of two Cinematic Doctrine Stickers & Pins Social Links: Threads Website Instagram Facebook Group

In this episode of "The Goats of Growth," I have a podcast first in which you'lI hear my interview with not one guest, but two! Scott Anderson and Jason Ingargiola of And1 Advisors join me to  discuss the 6 cultural pillars needed for building startups and that become unicorns which are: Culture of Living Your Values Hire for Culture Coaching Culture Cross-Funtional Winning Culture Customer Centic Culture Learning Culture Enjoy the episode! Here are the link to find out more about my guests and to get in touch with them. Scott Andersons Linkedin Profile Jason Ingargiolas Linkedin Profile And 1 Advisors Website Living Your Values (00:09:52) Importance of embodying and holding each other accountable to company values for a successful culture. Foundation of Ownership (00:12:15) Creating a culture where everyone takes ownership of their roles and decisions, fostering a sense of responsibility and accountability. Culture of Speed (00:13:26) Encouraging innovation, learning from failures, and driving quick decision-making and execution to maintain a competitive edge. Feedback and Accountability (00:14:46) Establishing a feedback loop and holding individuals accountable for aligning with the company's values and culture. Leadership Examples (00:16:47) Illustrating the importance of upholding values through executive actions and the impact of living company principles in decision-making. Company Values in Action (00:18:08) Demonstrating the significance of adhering to core principles through real-world examples from the consumer packaged goods industry. Mutuality (00:19:06) Internal and external mutuality, vendor and partner relationships, and living company values. Hiring for Culture (00:20:09) Recruiting best athletes, holding mutual accountability, and conducting separate cultural interviews. Determining Cultural Fit (00:24:30) Objective and subjective hiring approaches, stability, repeatability, and scalability. Coaching Culture (00:31:14) Creating a coaching culture, coaching for performance, and soft skills for effective coaching. The importance of listening and understanding (00:37:28) Understanding the significance of active listening and interpreting communication styles for better understanding and mentorship. Mentor mentality and cultural dynamics (00:39:31) Discussing the impact of adding team members on the cultural dynamics and the importance of maintaining core values. Cross-functional and winning culture (00:41:26) Emphasizing the importance of a winning culture and recognizing and rewarding individuals based on their unique motivations. Customer-centric culture and client selection (00:48:29) Exploring the significance of making customers part of the culture, being part of their culture, and focusing on ROI for successful partnerships. Saying no to potential clients (00:53:56) Understanding the importance of selecting the right scope of work and being transparent with clients for long-term success. The importance of living company values (00:56:38) The significance of being consistent with values and engaging with the CEO to uphold company values. Run a learning culture (00:57:26) The challenges of implementing learning culture in organizations and the need to have a plan for personal and scalable learning. Accountability and onboarding academy (00:58:55) The role of accountability in information sharing within the organization and the need for a structured onboarding academy. Culture drives retention and recruitment (01:00:59) The impact of culture on retaining talent and driving recruitment strategy for a company. Rapid fire five questions (01:02:32) A series of quick questions and answers related to personal motivations, goals, preferred ways of learning, favorite characters, and leisure activities. Advice to one's past self (01:09:15) Reflections on advice to give to one's past self, including the importance of having a vision and staying true to oneself. Question for the next guest (01:11:33) The hypothetical choice between a team of middling performers and a team with a couple of high performers and many struggling individuals, and the implications for scaling the business.

Have you seen the literary patterns that speak to us in Ephesians 5:15-6:9? They prevent us from taking these verses out of context.Paul teaches that believers are to be mutually building up one another. They are to teach and correct one another. And they are to submit themselves to what they are receiving fro one another. This is a HORIZONTAL and RECIPROCAL SUBMISSION that is world's away from the vertical submission many people teach about these verses.Christian wives and husbands serve as an excellent example of this functional unity in Christ. These verses are not primarily about marriage. Rather, they illustrate how to be being filled with the Spirit (5:18b). They give us a picture of the unity of the body of Christ that is the central idea of this passage (5:31-32).Go Deeper? Please get a copy of Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5:15-6:9 -- The Great Mystery Revealed: Mutually Submitting in Christ. It is available at Tru316.com/trubooks. Here's the link from that page: https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Eden-Ephesians-5-6-Submitting/dp/0972575936?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1699306961&sr=1-1-catcorr&linkCode=sl1&tag=trubooks-20&linkId=9eba1907d83f278d8773a8640cc38f97&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl    The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series. https://amzn.to/48RJqdl Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Building on part one, Dr. Boaz Johnson considers how women throughout the Old Testament are characterized by strength (Chayil in Hebrew). Part of women's strength is the result of much suffering, like Job's wife who becomes the mother of seven boys and three girls. The girls are named but not the boys. Consider the Song of Songs, the Shulamite woman was also a shepherdess who experienced much pain but also and exhibited even more strength. Consider Ruth who is considered a Proverbs 31 woman. She is also a foreign woman who had much to overcome including much pain. Consider Esther, also portrayed as a Proverbs 31 woman. She too faced unbearable circumstances, but God was faithful and evident in her strength. It is by passing through much suffering that we are made rich with insights and intimacy with God, particularly noted in the Psalms of lament. Consider Psalms 22:1 “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning?” These are the 7 last words of Jesus on the cross. Scholars note that while dying on the cross, Jesus was singing Psalm 22-23 which are songs of hope! The translation team came to the conclusion that this is not a cry of despair. It's not a question but a statement that God will not forsake those in pain and who are suffering. Psalm 22: 9-10 was translated by the team as: “You are the one who drew me from the womb. You made me safe at my mother's breast. Upon you I was cast from my birth. You have been my God from my mother's womb.” In this passage, God is portrayed both as the father and also as mother. Remember, that while Christ was dying on the cross, the disciples ran away and hide behind locked doors. But the women remained with him, listening to Christ sing as he died. These words were preserved by the women as they remained vigilant with their dying Lord.  Throughout the podcast, Boaz expresses his delight in hearing the voices and insights of the women scholars on CBE's translation team. The power of their collective wisdom will definitely bring much healing to our world overall, and to the future of Bible translation teams going forward. Thanks be to God! Guest Bio: Dr. Boaz Johnson, PhD Dr. Rev. Boaz Johnson (PhD, Trinity International University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) is a professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at North Park University in Chicago, IL. His writing has appeared in publications such as Priscilla Papers, Mutuality, Christianity Today, and The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. Boaz is a member of CBE's translation team and a sought-after speaker. As an Old Testament scholar, Boaz has served on CBE's Bible Translation Team from the very beginning. See CBE's website for more resources from Boaz. References Women of Strength, in Hebrew—Chayil Who is a Virtuous Woman? Correcting Caricatures: Women and Bible Translation Finding “The Proverbs 31 Woman” Psalm 22 NIV Books by Dr. Boaz Johnson The Marys of the Bible: The Original #METOO Movement Disclaimer The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. 

Dr. Boaz Johnson explores women Bible translators such as Pandita Ramabai (1858-1922) who, as a child, memorized thousands of Sanskrit texts. After coming to faith as a Christian, Pandita mastered the ancient languages and produced a Bible in Marathi—a very popular dialect in India. The work was completed on her compound called Mukti—meaning salvation. In all of history, there was never a translation of Scripture like Pandita's that was entirely the work of women: from translation to printing, binding, and distribution. Pandita's work inspired a contemporary of hers, Katharine Bushnell, MD (1855-1946). A medical doctor, missionary, and anti-trafficking activist, Bushnell encountered prostituted girls in India and elsewhere in the world. Bushnell was convinced that poor Bible translations were part of the cause since they portrayed women as inferior to men. Both women, Ramabai and Bushnell, did significant work to expose and upend the demeaning of women noted in failed Bible translations, a topic Dr. Boaz Johnson addresses throughout the podcast. Another woman mentioned was Frances E. Siewert (1881-1997). Holding academic degrees such as Litt. B., B.D., M.A., Litt. D., Siewert is credited as the visionary who initiated the Amplified Bible. Dr. Boaz Johnson expressed enormous appreciation for the team he works beside especially the women Bible translators from countries outside the US. Their scholarly expertise, coupled with their experiences as women from varied ethnicities and cultural backgrounds brings fresh perspectives to their translation decisions. One example was their decision to translate Ezer Kenegdo in Genesis 2:18 as “one who walks ahead of the other” in a posture of defense and protection. Ezer Kenegdo a phrase most often used of God's rescue of Israel. This is also how God describes woman in Genesis 2:18: one who protects and defends the man. Dr. Boaz Johnson then connects the characteristic of women's defensive protection noted in other biblical women like Ruth, the Proverbs 31 woman, and the wife of Job.  The episode ends by considering the women who suffer, the Mary's of Scripture who through pain and trials become wise, strong, and prophetic leaders.   Guest Bio: Dr. Boaz Johnson, PhD Dr. Rev. Boaz Johnson (PhD, Trinity International University and Trinity Evangelical Divinity School) is a professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at North Park University in Chicago, Illinois. His writing has appeared in publications such as Priscilla Papers, Mutuality, Christianity Today, and The Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. Boaz is a member of CBE's translation team and a sought-after speaker. As an Old Testament scholar, Boaz has served on CBE's Bible Translation Team from the very beginning. View his bio and authored CBE resources on CBE's website.  Other Related Reading and Resources Pandita Ramabai Pandita Ramabai's Legacy: How Gender-Conscious Bible Translation Impacts Christian Ministry Pandita Ramabai, Social Reformer and Bible Translator Katharine Bushnell Workshop Highlight: “Male, Female, Slave, and Free in the Context of a Pandemic: In the Thought of Katharine Bushnell What Katharine Bushnell Still Has to Teach Us Today Ezer Kenegdo (Gen 2:18) Woman as protector and defender Genesis 2:18, NIV What to Say If Someone Says Women Are to Be Men's Helpers Short Answers to Challenging Texts: Genesis 1–3 Books by Dr. Boaz Johnson The Mary's of the Bible Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers.