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The Conversation is BACK, and in this episode, we are straight chillin in trim jail because we know the secret to doing easy time. Then, T1000 asks, "Have you seen this plant?", as the IG police escalates its use of force. So sit back, relax, grab something to smoke on and get ready for a Cultivation Conversation. Please follow the show at @cultivation.conversation and follow your hosts at @girlgogrow & @captainautoflower. Don't forget to like, comment, share & subscribe because all of that helps us A LOT! Thanks everyone and enjoy the show.DISCOUNT CODESAUTOPOTS - Use code "CC10" on autopot-usa.comMICROBELIFEHYDRO - Use code "CCMLH15" on https://microbelifehydro.comAC INFINITY - Use code "cultivation" on acinfinity.comINSECT FRASS - Use code "CC10" frassvalley.com__________________________________________________If you would like to support us on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/CultivationconversationJoin us on Discord https://discord.com/invite/xcCSBQxyYBFollow us on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/cultivationconversationOur Website https://cultivationconversation.cc/
The Conversation is BACK, and in this episode, we are straight chillin in trim jail because we know the secret to doing easy time. Then, T1000 asks, "Have you seen this plant?", as the IG police escalates its use of force. So sit back, relax, grab something to smoke on and get ready for a Cultivation Conversation. Please follow the show at @cultivation.conversation and follow your hosts at @girlgogrow & @captainautoflower. Don't forget to like, comment, share & subscribe because all of that helps us A LOT! Thanks everyone and enjoy the show.DISCOUNT CODESAUTOPOTS - Use code "CC10" on autopot-usa.comMICROBELIFEHYDRO - Use code "CCMLH15" on https://microbelifehydro.comAC INFINITY - Use code "cultivation" on acinfinity.comINSECT FRASS - Use code "CC10" frassvalley.com__________________________________________________If you would like to support us on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/CultivationconversationJoin us on Discord https://discord.com/invite/xcCSBQxyYBFollow us on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/cultivationconversationOur Website https://cultivationconversation.cc/
Who is the best fictional villain? Welcome to VOLUME 185 of The Bracket. Kenjac is host alongside Clem, Tommy Smokes, KB and Donnie Follow The Bracket ►TWITTER - https://twitter.com/BracketPod ►INSTAGRAM - https://www.instagram.com/thebracket/ Follow Kenjac ►TWITTER - https://twitter.com/JackKennedy ►INSTAGRAM - https://www.instagram.com/jackennedy/ ►TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@ken_jac Intro - (0:00) Hans Gruber vs Magneto - (5:08) Anton vs T1000 - (11:25) Hannibal Lecter vs Gustavo Fring - (18:25) Cheah in Game - (29:42) Joker vs Cheah in Winner - (28:59) Jigsaw vs Thanos - (45:46) Voldemort v Tavington- (53:04) Ramsay Bolton vs Agent Smith - (57:29) Darth Vader vs Killmonger - (1:01:47) Playoffs - (1:05:20) Finals - (1:27:30) Download the Gametime app today and use code BRACKET for $20 off your first purchase Get your first month of BlueChew FREE Just use promo code BRACKET at checkout and pay five bucks for shipping. https://BlueChew.comYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/lightscamerabarstool
Fantastic Four: First Steps Is this, the 4th attempt at bringing the Marvel Universe‘s “First Family” to the big screen actually as fantastic as it purports to be? Well, we have finally settled on a look and feel that best suits the classic super hero squad: and it’s ‘60s Retro-futurism all the way for one and all!!! It’s a whole new universe of Marvel stories starring Omni-daddy Pedro Pascal, serving C&%t Vanessa Kirby, Joseph “i’m on fire!” Quinn and Ebon Moss Bacharach (or baccarat as Quinny thinks he’s called) as the truly Fantastic Four! In this film we kick of Marvel‘s Phase 6 and usher in a new style and direction of storytelling, but is it actually good? Listen in and find out! 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Make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss them! https://youtu.be/18QQWa5MEcs?si=ZuzrC0i80qHjiz4n https://youtu.be/cLFDV72pa-s?si=VHolgiDlJZWBk0I0 https://youtu.be/_rRoD28-WgU?si=nISYKo7MGY4MpUE9 https://youtu.be/WEhgwDqYqWM?si=Tx-FIPgv23qichZv ERRATA: It seems Quinny’s HERBIE history lesson was incorrect and entirely apocryphal… https://youtube.com/shorts/KHyTOUSk6Rw?si=FCmt1FKY-Grdhs7D WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK! Send in voicemails or emails with your opinions on this show (or any others) to info@theperiodictableofawesome.com Please make sure to join our social networks too! We’re on: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TPToA/ Twitter: www.twitter.com/TPToA Facebook: www.facebook.com/PeriodicTableOfAwesome Instagram: www.instagram.com/theperiodictableofawesome/ Full text transcript Dion Ohh hello and welcome to the pairing Table of Awesome. It is time for a foursome of a different kind on today. The Tuesday. What time? What time is it? Speaker 3 What time is it? Speaker 6 Blame on us? Yeah, it’s it’s. Speaker 3 Fun it’s it’s podcasting time. Dion Butter in time. Wait, that doesn’t quite work. I don’t know. And right now, Pete, which she was invisible. Yeah. Yeah, well done. Speaker 6 oh Speaker 3 Sorry. Quinny Very well done. I love the feeling now, really. She’s. Dion Hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Embrace hope. She’s yeah, probably. Still there. Can you hear? Jill Really gone. Just gone. Dion Us in the void. Peta I’m invisible. I’m not silent. Speaker Yeah. Yes. Dion That’s true. They didn’t use that enough in the film. I don’t think they’re just having Sue just kind of being like, what are you guys talking about and freaking people out because, you know, I do, if I were the Invisible Man. Jill Yeah, she’s not seen, not heard woman. Dion Yeah, not seen, not heard. Wow. Hello. Back after a week. Off. Off. Yeah, yeah. Small, small break. Quinny Wow. Hey, I said, everybody feeling enthused and like, upbeat and stuff. Jill It was nice. To have a little break to be honest. Dion Yeah, yeah, I hate those months with the five Tuesdays. What? What weirdness is that ********? And now? Ohh, it’s it’s gone. You’ve gone all glowy and. Peta Yeah, I’ve, I’ve. I’ve smudged the camera so. Quinny And ohh well. Yeah, I know. She’s she’s actually doing the exact effect from the movie where it’s just a little. Jill Yeah, yeah. The Vaseline lens. Yeah. Speaker 3 Bit of. Quinny Now, now pets. No. Dion Can I stretch my hand over here? Quinny Pun. Serve absolute can’t with your face while you. Jill Do that. Yeah, there it is. Dion There you go. Perfect. Speaker 3 And now I’m going to do some cooking, OK? Dion Ohh dear and you know what I hope for everyone. Hello to everyone in the chat mainly for. I hope you all got to do the home. Speaker Hey. Dion Work. Jill Yeah. Did everyone enjoy the movie? I. Dion This particular day. Quinny Mean I could. See it? Yeah, Tari looks like that. She hasn’t seen it yet. She’s saying that she that please be good. Ohh. Interesting. Speaker Oh. Speaker 6 Ohh. Dion Fascinating. What? Jill Yeah. Dion Look. Yeah, we Fantastic Four has been out since last Thursday. Officially, we saw it last week which? Was quite fun. Jill Yeah, there’s even some early screenings on Wednesday for the public. Dion Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s out. It’s part of Marvel’s Phase 266. Quinny Yep. First film of Save 6. First film of, say Phase 6. God, that’s. Speaker 6 Dion Why couldn’t have made it the first film of Phase 4? Quinny Because that was quite some time. Dion And then it. Would have been. Ago. Right. OK. Look, the fourth attempt at the Fantastic Fours and I I include in that the the 1994. 1. Which was never released except IS is is hovered around. Yes, there was a 1994 one. Jill That would make this the 5th 1 then. Dion Yeah. No, no, it’s it’s, it’s, I say this as in the fourth go at it because there were two with the same cast. So you have the, yeah. Speaker 6 Ohh OK. Dion What are you talking about? This is. Our fourth thing. We have had, yes, it’s the fourth thing, you know, Michael Chiklis did a great job getting covered in rubber. Quinny That is true, Yep. Peta Yeah. Dion You know, and then you know, we’re up to this one. Jill Can’t remember the other guy. Quinny That’s gonna get off in the life. And remember who played the thing in Fan 4? Stick. Ohh my. Dion God fan 4 stick. Jill I know. Quinny That was, that’s what it’s called. Jill Fan Fant Fant 4 stick. Quinny I don’t know, but I I just. Jill Yeah, I think that a was in the. Middle not at the start. Quinny Ohh OK, I just call it fan 4 stick because it’s it’s easier to say. Dion Ohh, that’s right, it’s Jamie Bell. Quinny Ohh God that’s. Dion Right, you remember. Speaker 2 Whoops. Quinny He was the young. Dion Billy Elliot. Speaker 3 Yes. Quinny And and the young, chipper guy out of of the first king or the the King Kong movie that Peter Jackson did. Dion And he was also tin tin. But that was who made. Quinny It so not really who you would think. Yeah, would fit in a giant thing. Jill Memorable. Dion That he was the. Thing, yes. Quinny And Karina makes a good point, a arresting piece to Julian McMahon, who was the 1st Doctor Doom actually. Sorry, 2nd Doctor Doom. Speaker Yeah. Yeah. Dion Yes, because there was a doom. Jill I did rewatch the 2005 version on the weekend just for a bit of nostalgia. Yeah, I like those trashy ones. They’re great. They’re so campy and stupid. Speaker Did you? Quinny What did you think of it? Speaker Yeah. Jill And I look back on them. And I’m like, wow, the simpler times where we did comic book films. And we really, really did make them comic bookie. Speaker Yeah, man. Yeah. Dion And finally. Jill Well, we weren’t going. For all of the realism and stuff. Quinny Yeah. And they didn’t have to fit in with some. Gigantic *******. Thing. Jill I will tell you practical effects. Thing I don’t know I like. Yeah, CGI 1 is like that, feels like. A cheap cop out. Quinny Right. OK. OK. Fine, no suit. Jill With balls on it and not put in. Any effort and? Just animate it. Quinny You know what? Dion Wait, do you mean wait? Peta The fine effort. Jill Hey, it’s a different kind of effort. I’m like, let’s get our hands dirty and make a ******* stinky suit out of foam expanding. Foam or something like that and. Of course, some lung disease. Let’s get into. Dion I’m I’m going to like, I’m just going to take it on part of the actors there. Sometimes I’m just going to be like, yeah, maybe they don’t. Jill It. Quinny This is Jeff. Dion Want that? Maybe they don’t want to spend 16 hours in a makeup chair to to to do. Yeah. Speaker 6 As a cosplayer, I I would agree, but I would also disagree because I think it would be fun to make it. Dion Sure. I mean ultimately it’ll be that great thing of like they make someone do that and then they just go oh. Quinny I’m. I’m just. Dion We’re just gonna CGI it. Quinny Well, The thing is, there was a there was a lot of the thing in this one that was actually practical. Like there’s quite believe it or not, there’s there’s shots that they hired a a pretty big wrestler to be the body for it. So on set. A lot of the time there was a practical suit, dude of roughly the right size. Is. Jill So we’re not talking about a guy that’s just standing in there in a green zentai. Quinny No, I mean when when they’re doing it with Evan Moss, Baccarat, then he was in the uh, whatever the **** he said. Backup, backup, backtrack. Dion Doctor rap. No. Baccarat. That’s a. Quinny Alright. Dion Game I know. Quinny Dion Know you’re in a casino in Monte. Carlo yes, guys. Quinny Anyway, when he was on set, yeah, they they had this entire certain stuff like that. But there were quite a lot of it that was shot any time they needed, like a wide shot and everything. They actually had a dude in a suit with the. Ohh head and everything. Cool. Alright. Yeah, I’ve I’ve seen the the pictures of that, but I’ve also in the chat just put a link to the 1994 one and the thing in that Jill, you would love that one because the the suit actually looks more like the comic book character than any of the others have. Jill I love the terrifying dead. Eyes. Speaker 3 I know. Dion I mean, it’s great. It’s yeah, it’s very thingy. Jill That’s. Yeah, that’s. Speaker 6 Look at that thingy over there. That thingy. Dion Yeah, that, that, that is definitely something I’d go. What is that thing? If I saw it in a in a thing? Jill With that young man with fake grey sideburns. Quinny I know, right? Dion Yeah. Hey guys. I’m trying hard here, Joe. What? Quinny Honestly, if you could find that film. Like this. This is I love this one because my my thing with Fantastic Four it it started with this film because I was one of those ******* nerds who heard that there was a film that got made and was never released. So I then went and hunted. Speaker For. Quinny It and I, you know, back in the days of VHS trading, got somebody to send me a *******. VHS of this film that had never been released, and I’ve watched it. It’s terrible, but it’s actually got a lot of, like, it’s trying really hard. Jill And. Nice. Quinny To do all of the things that are fantastic, four movie should do just with no budget. Hmm. So yeah, like it’s got Doctor Doom. It’s got the mole, man. It’s it’s got them all doing their powers. But like Reed, stretchy arms are like pool noodles with a with a *******. A glove on the end. Jill I mean that’s still image alone is giving vibes of like 70s Italian Spiderman. Dion Yes, got a bit of that. I mean, you’ve gotta. What’s what’s the what’s the the crossover slash league like the Marvel Group, you know, secret wars thing. It’s the 1989 Punisher. Dolph Lundgren. It’s the the Captain America film. It’s the Fantastic Four film. Quinny Hmm. Dion You know, it’s all of those ones Pre Marvel Universe. Mashed together. And you’re like, what is this strain? ******* place, but we don’t. Here, we’re in a different, strange place this time. We’re in much more budget, some bigger names and some. Quinny Yeah. Dion Finally, they sort of kind of got people who give a ****. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Dion About doing something fun. Quinny Yeah. Jill And that’s nice. Surprising what you’re going to accomplish when you put in some time and effort. Speaker Yeah, isn’t it? Dion Isn’t it’s kind of like oh. Quinny And when you? And when you’ve had three goes at it before and gotten it wrong three times. You kind of go. Well, **** it. We’re gonna hold off on this one because, I mean, Fantastic Four has always been seen as Marvel’s first family. Like, you know, they’re they’re one of the very earliest Marvel superhero groups. And you know, we’re what, 40, you know, 39 films in now something. Speaker 5 Sure. Dion More, I don’t know 112 where 112 films in now. That’s how many there are. I I won’t be fact checked. Quinny And we’ve, yeah, and now we’ve just introduced the very first Fantastic Four stuff. So yeah, it’s it’s an interesting one. I mean, obviously they were tied up in rights for. A long time. Dion But yeah, I mean. Look, it’s fine. We’re just going to ignore the rest of those fan 4 test. Stick, whatever it is. Quinny Can’t ignore them. Dion We have to stick, then forget stick. That’s what I. Yeah, we’re gonna ignore that. Quinny Not. The autistic fans. Dion We’re going to, we’re going to ignore that. Michael B Jordan, he’s also Johnny Storm. Yes, I know, right. No, he’s not Killmonger. He’s definitely Johnny storm. We’re also going to ignore that Captain America. Quinny Ohh yeah yeah, he was one of them. Speaker Yeah. Jill Was also Johnny Storm and Captain America. Dion Was also. Stone. Yeah. Yes, exactly. We’re going to ignore all of those things and focus very. Speaker Yeah. Dion Much in Comic Daddy and his family and Pedro Pascal’s not not happy just being space Daddy, Apocalypse Daddy and General General Daddy. Jill Yeah. Thanks, daddy. Dion Now he’s also comic Daddy. Quinny Hmm. Speaker Yeah. Dion Yeah, along with. Quinny Is there anything he can’t, daddy? Dion You know what? Hollywood will not let him. Not daddy something. He’s in there now forever. Like. Yeah, he will just. He will just keep doing it until everyone collectively gets sick of him. And I’ll be able to return to an anonymity. Quinny Hmm. I just realized it is the summer of Pedro, it’s. Jill Summer picture. Dion Yeah. Speaker Been just realized. Dion Multiple summers. Quinny It was another ******* attempted Fantastic Four. Dion Oh. Have you? Yes, grey tailed. Quinny Well, technically. There was another Reed Richards. Ohh John Krasinski but that. Jill Yes. Yeah, that’s right. Dion That’s in Multiverse of Madness, which is so the. But that’s not the Fantastic Four. Quinny Yes, from. Marvel Universe. He’s one of the breeds. Jill He was. He’s Mr. fantastic. Dion Is he though? Jill Yes. Quinny He’s Mr. spaghetti by the end of. It but anyway. Dion Yeah, like I mean, yeah, that’s just on film, but it it, it wasn’t the Fantastic Four and this is what we want to focus on. It’s about these group of people and. How they’re represented in cinema? Yeah. What you’re not. Jill Capturing in the audio is our eye rolls. Quinny Massive massive eye roll. Dion Come on. Quinny Beyond wiping away John Krasinski from the from the entire multiverse of of anything, and we’re all going. No, no, no. Jill Yeah, that’s because they don’t. Can’t do a convincing cosplay of John Krasinski’s Mr. Fantastic. You can only do the Pedro. Dion No, I cannot. Jill Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and if you squint, the Ian Crawford one. Speaker 6 You’re clean shaven for that one. Quinny I’ve just had an eye. Yeah, my eyes are not that ******* blind. Dion OK, then fine. I’ll go with this one if this. If he’s part of the Fantastic Four Canon, you need to cast the other three members of the Fantastic Four in those universes. Who is it going? Jill That’s true. OK. Oh my God. Yeah. Can we come back to this at the? Dion No immediate. OK. We’ll give you time. Time. Yeah, time. Jill End of the show. We’ll be here for 15. Dion Minutes. Yeah. Yeah. So if if if John Krasinski’s Mr. Fantastic and chat go and throw some something we. Quinny Man. Need to sleep? Yeah. Speaker 6 ******* Emily Blunt. I would go. Emily Blunt force. Jill Storm. Quinny **** yeah. Yep, Yep. You down to? Dion That yeah, Karina, just like gonna get to the. Synopsis yet guys. Speaker Yeah. Peta You know, keep getting pushed. Speaker Push. Speaker 6 Push by the chat. Let’s go. Speaker 2 Yeah, that’s a wow. Quinny I’m being bullied by the test. Peta This film about. Quinny What is this film about it? No, I’m not gonna. I’m not gonna do the synopsis now because I’ve been told. I have to. Jill No. Ohh yes. Speaker 6 Jesus. Dion Christ. Jill That sounds like me energy. Dion Peta Settling into that demand avoidance there. Dion Come on. Tony, have you got? Have you got some synopsis? Peta Yeah. Quinny For us it is. I have got a. Synopsis for everyone but Karina. Peta To be fair to Karina, it’s been 20 minutes. Jill Can you do it in a Brooklyn accent? OK. Speaker 3 Forced ohh. Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, the Fantastic Four must defend Earth from a ravenous space God called Galactus and his enigmatic herald the Silver Surfer. And guess what? It’s clubber and die this. Quinny Ohh, cool, that’s it. That’s the whole book. Was an opposite. Trust me, there was an even shorter one. Speaker Is that it? Speaker 6 Yeah. Wow. Dion I love sofas, yeah. Speaker 6 Silvers, soyfer yeah, soyfer. Dion Some some more continents and vowels in there that I remember from. Speaker 3 Hey, I’m going down the street and I’m going to start some some flights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dion Yeah, that’s about it. Quinny Hey, get that man some cookies. Thank you. I. Dion Would love some cookies. That’s kind of what the movie is about and I’m, I’m I’m with it like this isn’t one of those films that you went and saw and you’re like, oh, great, we get to have an origin story of how did they get their powers, how did. They do this like how do we go through that? They were like, no, you know what? Quinny Ohh thank God. Jill Yes, we just got a tidy. Little vignette, and that’s all we needed. Dion Yep. Quite a long vignette really explaining like how they fit into the world and how suddenly the the brokers of World Peace and everyone looks up to them and they’re the world’s family. Quinny Yep. Jill Yeah, I kind of love it. Dion I mean, OK. Jill They’re. They’re paragons. Quinny Yeah. And we, the the important thing to note is that we’re in a different world here we are in. We’re not in the regular Marvel Universe. We are in a weird kind of quasi 60s future pop, yeah, different reality. Speaker Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 It’s. Dion It’s 60s futurism, so it’s just it’s there’s a divergent. Speaker Hmm. Dion From our history to where it has ended up in this Earth history, and I’m I dig it, I dig the style, imagine in the 60s if four people got shot into space and came back and had all these powers and solved a bunch of problems. Speaker Hmm. Dion And a bunch of other things happen. That’s how that kind of goes. It’s like, yeah, well, you know. Quinny Yeah. And the difference. Speaker I mean. Quinny Not actually stated what year this is, is it? Dion No, no, it’s just the different earth. Quinny Yeah, right. Dion And what that is. But people don’t have. Jill Yeah, it could be current day 2. 616 Earth we don’t. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Jill Know that’s just what this earth. Dion Yeah. Looks like there’s big. There’s big kind of LED screens, but no cell phones. Speaker Slide. Peta Yep, well, it’s kind of like they’ve kind of gone. We don’t need to put energy into making TV screens flat. We’ll just have giant non flat TV screens and faster than light space travel. Yeah, yes. But we’re gonna do with that extra energy. Dion There’s there’s like. Quinny No. Dion You know. Yeah. Peta We don’t need to put energy into like inventing MP threes. We’ll just keep records. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And teleporting. Dion Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Peta Think of what we could have done as humanity. Quinny I didn’t know. Dion Exactly all of our computerisation goes on tape. Jill Yeah, I mean. Yeah, we invented cassettes and then CD’s and then digital format music. And now we’re back to ******* records again. Quinny So yeah, but they just didn’t bother leaving the the records. Yeah, because they realized it was the the superior format from the start, especially if you print them in. Dion Yes. Gold. And if you haven’t got a troop of players in your lounge room. You know, yeah. Eventually we’ll get to there, won’t we, like? Oh, this is my 9 musicians that follow me around and. Play music to me. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Yeah. I mean, yeah. Karina and Casper both kind of make the point. It’s very jetsons. Dion Yeah. And that’s kind of great because that’s very familiar to the people who knew fantastic for for when they were growing up based on the cartoon, which is the the sort of. Peta So jetsons. Dion The carry over of where people would sit from the Saturday morning kind of cartoon and. You know it it it sets the tone that everyone could easily get into and I went, I’m here. I immediately know what’s going on. It has a different Marvel logo, it has a different kind of a soundtrack. It’s setting itself in a in a particular period and I was like, I’ll go with this. This is totally different to every ******* thing else. This isn’t a dark and gritty reboot. This isn’t. Anything really to do with the rest of the Marvel Universe? Yeah, kinda. Which makes me happy. And I was like, I’ll go with this. I’m immediately just going to be like, all right, what do you got? Jill Yeah. I think the thing that’s so immersive about it is the visual language that they’ve lent into so strongly and so thoroughly like the the set design and production. All the set pieces, the costumes, everything like that was like. Beautiful, like there was such attention to detail and there was not like a wasted moment on screen. It was so interesting that we’re talking about like, how like futuristic retro it is but. Like the. Costuming wasn’t futuristic. That was still like grounded in 60s fashion. Speaker Hmm yeah. Dion I had a really good time just watching the sets and the costumes. I was like they have actually paid a lot of detail to the costuming, not only of the signature folk, but the people around them too. Looked sharp as ****, I gotta say. Quinny And. Jill Yeah, like the the space suits and their hero suits were were still like. Grounded within like that 60s, like retro futuristic style, but had like the the strong 60s fashion elements as well in terms of like the textures of the fabrics and things that they used but the the colour theory throughout was fantastic and yeah just the the visual language that they. Used in this film was just so Cohen. Peta It’s a joy for. The arts, hmm. Dion Joy for the eyes until we get to the failure of the film. Quinny Wow. Jesus. OK, so, so just a reminder folks, the deal also sat through Superman and huffed. Speaker Go further on. Dion I did. I did half. He did half I wanna also. Caveat that I did see Fantastic Four, but beforehand I had. Speaker 6 So. Dion To watch. Beforehand I had to win. The Avatar trailer 17 times. I don’t. I don’t know how to explain that in terms of everything else, but I had to sit through the Avatar trailer. Too many ******* times, and that may have influenced my decision. And how I enjoyed that film slightly too many times. Jill Anyway, yeah, it’s almost like they strapped you to that chair and made you watch them 17 times. Dion They kind of did. Yeah. You know, because you know, as we all know, in those kind of cinema things, the seats are gold. And if you leave one, you’re done. It’s going coming back but anyway. Speaker 3 Yeah. Dion OK, enough of that. Fantastic for what? What are your first four impressions? Quinny I just wanna know why you’re getting ready to throw it. Speaker 2 Hello. Quinny Under the bus. To you ohh. Speaker 2 No, no. Quinny Like there have been a couple of times that you’ve already kind of started. Coming out of. Swinging. I wanna know why the big. Speaker There is. Dion Rubber punches out. Well, first, I mean, we all hate John Krasinski. And. No, I’m just joking. That’s. Three just threw that out there for. Peta Come on for John Krasinski. And he’s not like. Jill He can’t even defend himself. Quinny He’s such a nice guy. Everybody talking. Dion About, I’m talking about how effusively I love the costuming, the design, the aesthetic, the way that it just kind of moves the story along really, really quickly. It throws in some amazing nods and references to the historical stuff, like there’s covers of famous Fantastic Four issues thrown in very quickly. I know you’ve got. Quinny Oh my God, that made me so happy. Dion Classic villains like Mole Man and the Red Ghost. Yeah. Ish red. Red ghost off. Speaker 3 Well, sort of. Dion Like all of that stuff is kind of great. Herbie is amazing. The fantastic car, which I think often gets ignored. Quinny Yeah. Jill Uh-huh. Dion In, in a lot of, this is part of the fun about the Fantastic Four is all of the bits and pieces that Reed comes up with. That’s all kind of themed Herbie, as I said. Yeah. And he was. Quinny Great. OK. Does everybody know the history of why Herbie exists? Jill No. Quinny OK, this is my my favorite stupid piece of ******* history. So in the 60s, when the Fantastic Four was being turned into a cartoon, they went OK we’re going to do the Fantastic Four and the standards people of America went hang on. One of the characters is on fire. Speaker Tell. Quinny We can’t have a children’s TV show where the children want to emulate the heroes and have a character be on fire. Why not so? In the 60s cartoon of Fantastic Four. Johnny Storm is removed entirely and is replaced by Herbie. This is where Herbie came from. Wow. Speaker Oh. Yeah. Quinny So the fact that, like the fact that he’s in the movie is ******* hilarious. But his history is even better. Jill That’s wild. Quinny And I’m pretty sure he actually talked in the animated series, but yeah, and didn’t just make bleeps and. Speaker 6 Wheels. I like the Droid vibe it was. Dion Didn’t. Yeah, it didn’t sound like. Yeah, it didn’t sound like a 60s frickin B. Speaker Yeah. Dion I just. I just remembered something. Thing when we get this Sue storm into the proper Marvel Universe, she’s going to have to come up against Namor, yes. Quinny Hmm. Dion And and that’s a lot of that’s a that’s a whole. Jean Grey, Wolverine, Cyclops thing going to happen right there anyway. That’s right. Jill That’s something we can work on. Dion Later. Yeah, there’s a lot of smart in that one anyway, yeah. Speaker Yes. Quinny And apparently on on the set all the time, Vanessa Kirby is like, So what? What’s going on with Namal? Pedro’s like, for ***** sake, right? Dion Here she knows what’s going on. She gets all the cast members. Quinny Mm-hmm. Speaker 3 Yeah. Dion Yeah. Look, I. Had a great time with it, like, you know, really good introductions to quick introductions to characters. Everyone got a little bit of ability to show who they were as characters very rapidly. Like, you didn’t have to pay to. Much there, but I also really appreciated how much they felt like a family and they felt caring and it was showing them in a particular way, which it wasn’t like, oh, these are conflicted people. They don’t know how to, you know, where’s the drama? I mean, the drama isn’t in the family. The drama is external forces. And I think they got that really well because there was a really cool vibe to sort of be like ohh this is, this is cool kind of family like like I I would take children to watch it and be like see, this is how you’re nice to each other. You don’t have to hit each other. You know. Quinny Don’t set each other on fire. Dion Don’t set each other on fire. Try stop working so hard. Quinny Pete Jew talk to me. Jill Oh my God. Ohh feels like so long ago but it was only Friday. Dion Four days ago that you saw it. Jill Ohh my goodness, I really liked the film. I had a good time. I saw it well. I mean, all the things that I said about the costume and set design and all that stuff was just fabulous. I thought like the story pacing was good. Like they they got to the point and they, you know they executed ABC. You know, here’s what’s happening. Here’s our problem. And here’s how we overcome. It, like they did that. UM. I thought the action bats were good. But again, I’m just not getting my **** blown off. Guys. The jet film. We’re back to the **** rating scale. OK0 **** means it was ******* amazing because they blew them both off, but two **** is bad because it doesn’t mean that I didn’t like the movie. Quinny Back to. Rating system. Jill It just didn’t **** **. Way and it made me start to think that there was something wrong with me. Like am I not finding enjoyment out of these movies anymore? Like is it becoming passe? Is it like over saturation? Like what’s the issue? I think what the issue is is that too many movies. Are just safe. They’re in a safe zone. They do what they do on the box and they do no more than that. Speaker Hmm. Jill I’m not getting any like thrill, danger, excitement from these movies anymore. It feels really middle of the road and pedestrian and that’s not to say that Fantastic Four was a bad movie. It was a good movie because it did its job, but it didn’t go above and beyond. And become an exceptional film. And I just, I feel that way about Superman as well. That was not exceptional to me, and it just kind of feels like every time we go and see a big blockbuster, I come out like feeling it was it was middling level. Speaker Yes. Quinny I agree, but I want to keep Pete’s. Take on it? Sure. Peta I think it’s very well constructed, beautifully made. Film, I mean, we’ve talked about the production design and the look of it already, which is great. You know, we’ve talked about the the structure which is logical and probably better constructed than Superman. And and I do think it’s funny that I’ve kind of liked the exposition. Free tool here that I hated so much and electric state, same tool, different vibe. It’s it’s easy to get into and you want it to be because there are some plot points that that, that require a very high level of suspension of disbelief. Even for a comic book movie, you know, usually I I I I try to give the the Budweiser and the ********* like. A bit of a break in in certain genres, but I struggled a bit with a couple of the plot points that very much drove some parts of the story. Because it was a bit wibbly wobbly. Sciency want see? Yes. Yeah, like, don’t. Jill Get into the proton stream, but get into the proton stream, yeah. Dion Yeah, you’re Superman. Peta That was and, and I think the issue is I I I get I I have a tendency to get a little bit distracted if I can’t. If that suspension of disbelief gets interrupted, and I think that these particular plot points were distracting enough that even though I was enjoying the film, I still. Got kind of. Kicked out of this story a. Little bit by thinking? Yeah, but Nah. Quinny Are these things that need to be talked about in spoilery territory or? Peta Ohh, everything needs to be talked about in spoiler territory. It’s it’s just and if they weren’t plotted drivers. Dion OK, alright, fair enough. Peta It would have felt a little bit different as well, but it it did kind of feel like as well constructed and entertaining and beautiful as the film is. I kind of agree with Jill that you kind of I didn’t personally come out of the end of it going like. **** yeah. Amazing superhero film. It was just kind of like, ohh, that was like really well constructed and good looking and entertaining. And yeah, Pedro. Quinny I I have, I agree very much with with everything you guys have said. My biggest problem with it is that. The movie didn’t have its next gear up like all the way through it puddled along at an enjoyable kind of pace. It was doing what was needed, you know, things were kind of getting, you know, you had your action beats and stuff like that. But then when you get to your climax. It doesn’t have the next gear, it can’t shift it back a cog. And really. Go ****. Let’s go. It didn’t have that it, you know, the the climax I kind of was like and oh, OK, right. We’re done. ****. OK. Huh. And that’s. Kind of implementing of the whole film that it’s really well made as as we’ve all said, well made, well shot, lovely costumes, lovely everything. Jill Great performances, everybody was on their a game. Quinny But nothing that made me go ****. That was a moment. Like, you know, there was nothing. There was no moment like. Speaker Yeah. Quinny The thors hammer. With that, America, there was no kind of really emotional beat of. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Vision saying you know that love is just pain. You know, whatever. I can’t even remember the quote. But you know those those those really like deep seated moments that make you go ohh. That got me right in the heart. Speaker Hmm. Peta Which Thunderbolts did for me, and that, you know, I. I guess if if if you’re going to hold it up against superhero films we’ve seen this year from a. Speaker Hmm. Peta Is it a good movie? Speaker Hmm. Peta Mm-hmm. You know, well-rounded perspective, I would still put Thunderbolts ahead of this, regardless of how beautifully. Thought out the world was. Quinny Yeah, like there, there were lovely moments and their lovely ideas. I love the idea of the whole world pulling together to go **** we’ve got. Eight months to build something or, you know, and we’re all going to pull in this together and we’re all going to come together over something. It’s a great concept, but it just never felt like it had those that, that personal danger of what we saw in Thunderbolt and. A lot of people who are doing the, which one did you like more, Superman or or fantastic? 4. I personally thought the Superman took more risks. You know, it was weirder. It was. Peta Well, it was more. It was more current in in its messaging and the. The risks that it. Was taking in that messaging as well, and I think also you kind of. Dion Hmm. Peta This is a bit of an imbalance, I suppose in the rate that one escalates because you can kind of attempt to escalate the stakes to the highest possible point and the escalate them so high that the audience cannot believe. That. That jeopardy is going to come to pass in that context, which actually, which actually kind of destroys that moment, is kind of gotta be like a believable, worst case scenario that they’re facing. Not like, well, of course, they’re trying to find a way to avert that. There’s gonna be a little part of you that’s like. Quinny Hmm. Peta Ohh, they might fail, which I kind. Speaker Hmm. Peta Of felt in this. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like. Peta Otherwise, you don’t feel the jeopardy, you know, the way that you should. Speaker Hmm. Quinny Yeah, and and I don’t know, I feel like something like Superman has has more of a an alter kind of vision behind it. Like, you know, that felt like James Gunn saying something and his whole thing about found family and his whole thing about being outsiders and, you know, he. He has a particular thumbprint that is all over that. This one I couldn’t tell you. A thumbprint it was. Peta Which is funny because it is tonally and structurally much more consistent. Quinny Absolutely. Jill Yeah, it’s a. Package. Yeah, it has an aesthetic and it, you know, executes that, but yeah. Quinny Yeah. And and like. Jill There’s there’s special sauce. Quinny Yeah. And and I don’t. Know what it is because. I was wanting to get excited. I was super wanting to get excited and it just never quite hit me. And even when big things happened, I was like. Jill Karina made a good point that she thought we were going to see them fail. Based on what we saw in the post credit scene of Thunderbolts and I want to make a point where I kind of wish that that scene never existed because it coloured my expectations. Speaker Hmm. Jill This film I was going in. Quinny Yes, I’m. Peta I forget what that scene. Jill Was ohh that’s actually it was it was there. There was like ohh we can. We’re picking up something on our radar and then they zoom into space and they see the Fantastic Four ships flying through space and that bit. Yeah. Yeah. So I had a different expectation of what I was expecting in this film. And so I’m like. Speaker 6 It’s just. Dion Just a a rocket ship in the sky. Kind of, or if it is, we don’t know. Jill Just on the edge of my seat the whole time, thinking. Well, how are they gonna get to our earth? When are we gonna see that? When are we gonna see that? And. And I’m like, so I wasn’t in the moment with everything else that was happening because I was anticipating something else to. Quinny Yeah. Yeah. And and maybe that’s that, that other cog that. Speaker Happen. Quinny I was expecting. Maybe that’s the the the next thing up is that you know, they do like, fail or they do something that that then took it to a different level. Speaker Yeah. Jill That causes them to and then this is how we get to this moment. But like now that we’re not going to have The Avengers doomsday film until another 18 months. Quinny Jill I’m like, wow, how are they going to get our butts in the seats for that one? Quinny Yeah. Jill Because after watching this movie, I’m like. Ah, I don’t really know where we’re going. Quinny Neller. Peta At the end, do you feel safe now with your opinion to share? Dion I mean, my opinion is based on Fantastic Four and how I enjoyed this movie or didn’t. Quinny Which is a really difficult thing to do to to take the movie entirely on its own. Yeah, been its own value and. Speaker 2 What? Quinny So aside from my expectation, aside from the other movie I watched a week and a half before, yeah, aside from. Dion Yeah. Quinny All of that, yeah. Dion Look there. This is the thing. Like I I really like to to throw this through. I really enjoyed Thunderbolts because it broke expectations that I had. I was there for it to say, what are you gonna do with this? And I was. Like wow, that is a great movie. I had certain expectations about Superman or I was wondering what was going to go, and I felt it wasn’t as good as I thought. It’s going. And I went to Fantastic Four. Saying how is this going to go? And I thought, yeah, I had a little bit of the same thing the the ending. Thing towards the end and some of the reasoning and stuff I was a bit like oh, this doesn’t make sense and I don’t understand where it does or doesn’t fit and I feel like they’re going to have to for some reason do another one in that universe for some reason. And I’m just a bit confused. I feel like it just kind of didn’t. You’re right, had that. Where’s that gear? Where’s the gear? Range. Where does it go up? Where do the stakes get bigger? Where does it become really important? But really I liked it because it. Was you can see across the entire movie from start to finish. It was a love letter to the time of the original Fantastic Four. Like all of the Kirby, all of the weird stories are just written into it. So it is made with a lot of reverence and a lot of love. And I really liked that because there was good messaging that was in there. Speaker Hmm. Dion The execution or some of the reasoning is just I don’t know how this fits. In the rest, like I love that it’s an outsider film, but I also don’t then. But what’s are we are we going to follow these people? Is that the point or is it just having a second one? Like I don’t. Know like it’s another Fantastic Four is like. Quinny Yeah. Dion Will we see him? Jill Yeah. Are we making this movie just to make a sequel? Just so we can make? Money. Quinny Yeah. Well, or are we making this one just because we needed to have a really good bad guy for the MCU. We’ve already announced who that bad guy. So we really had to have this film before doomsday could happen. Jill Yeah. There’s a lot of very upset people in. Our screening at the end of this movie. Quinny Yeah, yeah, there was. Dion Yeah, Speaking of bad guys, how do we feel about the villain aspects of this one? Speaker Hmm. Jill I was curious to how I would ever see Galactus executed on film, and I think it. Up to a point, it was well done. Dion Is it? Is it better than the giant cloud? Speaker 6 Ohh yeah, we don’t need. Dion So the. Jill Some amorphous cloud like I want to see an actual Galactus and like how? Dion So. Jill Do you do? That I mean, especially after we had the Eternals where, you know, we have things God like beings in space, it’s like, OK, well now how do we make a Galactus? Speaker Hmm. Jill That was really cool, but then there was a moment where I thought it was. Not cool. Maybe I’ll talk about that in sport. Dion How? How did you feel about Charlotte Owl? Jill I thought it was sick. I’m like, yeah, let’s go back to the original Silver Surfer. Yeah. People will be surprised to know the original Silver Surfer was not a dude. Quinny I I knew that Michelle label was an alternate, but I didn’t realize that. Jill I think the original Silver Surfer was a woman, and then it was her lover that begged Galactus to trade places with her. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Entry. Dion Interesting, yeah. Jill And disappointed we didn’t get the what if Aunt May was the Herald for Galactus and we didn’t get the golden oldie. Dion What are you talking about? Marisa? To me, isn’t that old? Quinny I I think. Speaker 3 No. Quinny I think there were there were sequences in there watching the the Silver Surfer surfing through. Speaker Ohh. Quinny Like Kirby Crackle, ******* cosmic power surfing through black holes where I was like, **** yeah, this is cool. You know, surfing around curving laser beams and ****. I was like. Dion Well, grab. Yeah. Speaker 3 Yes. Dion ******* hell yeah, that’s that’s the weird success stuff. That was the bitter. Speaker Hmm. Dion Was like, oh, this is great. Like, how do you put the Silver Surfer in? Why does it doesn’t even make sense. And it’s like, yeah, it does. If you lean into that. Crazy kind of 60s vibe that it originally was about. It’s like, yeah, I’m just gonna surf, like, through cosmic waves, man, it’s. Like. Cool. That’s fun. Yeah, it helps if you take LSD. Quinny Hmm. Speaker Yeah. Dion You know. Quinny Like there was something so ******* cool with all of that visual stuff. Yeah, that up until now, we’ve never really gotten because the only other time we’re seeing the Silver Surfer, he was on Earth, so it didn’t have that real cosmic kind of. Dion Maybe. He was the T1000 man. Jill Thing, yeah. Speaker Hmm. Dion He just kind. Of morphed around as needed for the plot. Quinny Your thoughts on on the Silver Surfer? Peta Neutral. Cool. I I don’t have a lot of feelings about the Silver Surfer as a character, but I thought she was. I thought it it was cool execution. Dion Yeah. Quinny Hmm. Yeah, look cool. And I like the the human eyes too. I thought that was kind of cool. Yeah, cause you I feel like you still need something to latch onto for a motion, yeah. Speaker Mm-hmm. Quinny I thought that was smart. Speaker And. Look, there’s look. Dion There’s lots of fun stuff in there. Standouts for me. I I I need to say I really annoyed that they didn’t rename it the fantastic six because to be honest, there are 6 characters in this movie. By the end of it, you’re watching it like there’s not just four, there’s more. Who you’re following through with, which was a bit of a surprise because I was like, OK, right. You’re just going to lean very heavily into the entire thing. Sure. I really. Kirby, I love that they went into galactic space because that’s kind of that’s that kind of that’s really fun. Like Reed Richards is that kind of character who, you know, is your prototypical 50s, you know, American Americanized painting, you know, of, like, it’s a pipe and slippers and, you know. Dad’s home. Jill Yeah. The Norman Rockwell. Yes. Please looking forward. Dion Yeah, absolutely. 100% The Rockwell and it it. But presented in that very conservative way, but he’s not a conservative. Like you know, it’s kind of like I’m just going to learn how to fold matter and bend this, and then we’re going to space. All right, everyone, safety third. Let’s go. That’s kind of Reed riches. Like he built a thing called the Ultimate Nullifier. And it kills anything in the known Marvel Universe. And then he’s just like ohh someone. Quinny He’s. Dion Like. Speaker Like. Dion ******** Reed, you know like. Quinny One thing you you said to me afterwards too. Jill Yeah, I mean. He just casually solved teleportation in this. Dion Yeah, yeah. Jill Film or whatever. Quinny Whatever. Whatever one thing you said to me too, and I agreed like they’ve always struggled to get Reed Richards powers looking good on screen. Like it’s very hard to do stretchy guy without it looking dumb, but one of the things that is kind of sad is that in the. Dion Yes. Quinny The comics and everything. Quite often you’ll see him, and that stretchiness of his body is a. Is. A all about echoing who he’s mentally. Yeah. So his arms are over here. You know, riding on the blackboard and his other arms over here, smoking a pipe and his head is, you know, stretched out over here, looking at the, you know, out the window or something like that. And there wasn’t much of that. It was very much like, this is traditionally handsome Pedro. Peta Yeah. Jill It’s it’s tiny. Yeah, it’s a tiny bit like he was doing. A little bit of the blackboard. Stuff and the catching things, but. Speaker 6 Yeah, I don’t. Jill I don’t think we really got to see him actually use his powers much in the film as a whole. Quinny Nope. Nope. Dion It’s very, very expensive to animate Pedro Pascal. Peta It’s it’s a dump power. Speaker 3 Pete. Pete, in there, it’s true. Jill I mean, it might be a time you. Would change your mind. Speaker Yeah. Speaker 3 Blubbering time, no. Quinny Should we rate it because we are, we’re going on a. Peta Yes, yes. Quinny Long time. Ohh good. Jill Oh my goodness. I don’t know. I’m gonna pick a number. Dion How many tips off Jim? Speaker 6 Yeah, the tip scale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jill Yeah. The two tip film, but. Quinny I mean, I’m gonna. I will change the rating system if I have to, but it’s gonna really. Dion I had some I had some issues with it, but I did enjoy. I had a fun time. I’m gonna give it a 75. No 70. I’m gonna go 70. Sorry. I’m. I’m back down a little bit mainly because I really loved. Quinny On the website. Dion The scenic I love the the the characters together. They didn’t quite mesh as much and I felt like some of them were lost like I think Ben Grimm’s the thing. Speaker 6 Hmm. Dion Totally kind of lost in the hole as much to do. No, I I didn’t get enough of that thing because one of the most important things I know about Ben Grimace, he’s the real heart of the team. And while that was great, like I loved, you know, uncles, you’ve got uncles going on there. I loved it. You know, Johnny and and Ben are totally down for, you know, being uncles. I just thought he got a little bit lost and I have big issues with some of the purple headed warrior of the lactose, which I’ll talk about in spoilers, but yeah, overall fun time. Not a long time. Quinny Fair enough, Pete. Number. Peta I’m going to say I’m going to say I’m going to say 76 because I do think that it was. Really well put together but. The the I mean I’ll have some stuff to say when we spoil some things. Yeah, I’ll try to keep it brief. Actually, there was one point I think I said to you guys that I’d nearly walked out of there with more tips. Than I started with. Quinny I’m still wanting to know how that works. Peta Luckily, luckily I I didn’t have to go full rage out on it. Quinny So I’m very impressed. Peta Umm. But yeah, it’s just those kinds of like those those plot points that that just didn’t quite work for me were just a little bit kind of too conveniently driving the plot. And I didn’t quite buy even in the world of the story, that really kind of helped me back from from. Losing any tips at all? Quinny So so number of tips is 2. Hmm but. Peta Ohh, also the young Kelly’s Uncanny Valley baby was distressed. Quinny Though apparently that they had a live baby on set 99% of the time. Peta In some shots, I was gonna say you, but you can tell the. Shots that aren’t, yeah. Dion Yeah, yeah. Babies don’t look like babies on screen. You gotta pay. They yeah. Peta I mean, either it was a fully uncanny valley baby or they were doing something to kind of make the baby look like it was looking, but there was something. Yeah. And whenever whenever Ben Grimm’s holding the baby, it’s like. That ain’t no real. Jill Baby, what number did you give it, Pete, 7676. Dion Yeah, we all know. Quinny And Dion, still at 70, isn’t. Dion He. Yes, I’m still there. Quinny Yeah, Dan, how many tips have you got left by? Dion The way? Yeah, just one tip. Quinny Wanted. Jill Only go off 1. Dion I only want it. Yeah, I mean, well. I mean, I don’t know. It’s moved. Maybe the **** moved like it. It’s not in the same place it started out, but it hasn’t gone completely off. It’s around the side visiting the armpit. Jill You can’t. But I gave Superman. Quinny I can probably look it up if you want. Jill Yeah. Peta See, I just kind of take it on a mood basis. It’s on a day by day basis. Dion Briefly. Quinny Hmm. Dion Phil was right. I mean, I think. One of the telling things long rated. Peta Never compare my ratings for one movie to another movie. Quinny Superman 65. Speaker Oh. Dion While while Jill is thinking, I mean it’s fair enough. Remember, she only saw it like 4 days ago and it feels like. Jill OK, here’s the weird thing though. Like after I watched Superman, I kind of wanted to see it again, but I don’t know if that was to try and enjoy it more or like to get the things that I didn’t really get about it. But this one I’m not really like in a rush to go back. To the movie for it. Quinny Hmm. Jill But. I did like it more than Superman. Then. I think I’m going to give it. 69. Speaker 3 Nice. Dion Nice. Jill It was just a nice movie. Quinny Yeah, 69 and still 2 tips. Peta Yeah. Dion Quinny, what have you. Quinny Yeah. Got. I’m very similar to you know, I’m I’m probably I’m probably more in line with the pizza like. Yeah, 70. I’m going to go 77. I don’t know why. Yeah. Actually. Peta Just feels like a 77. Speaker Vibe. Quinny Like I I was a bit more warm on Superman whereas this. Like it’s it’s a perfectly fun, pleasant film. Like there’s nothing wrong with it, but it also just to me, felt like it. Was. Didn’t have much, particularly to say. Other than you know, wouldn’t it be nice if we could all work together and yeah. But also, maybe that’s what we needed at the moment is something that wasn’t too dangerous or whatever and. I don’t know. Yeah, it’s it’s 77 for me, but I just find it so. Dion Weird. We’ve, we’ve, we’ve, we’ve focused a lot on the non spoilery side and we’re running rapidly running out of time. So let’s go to the dinner clip to find out why they’re all such a nice blending together, then come back and see how much we. Can jam pack into spoil it section? Peta Leave if you haven’t seen it, because I’m going to spoil the very, very, very end of the film. Speaker Dion Pete is thrown down. Here you go, alright? Speaker 5 What are you doing? You mean what am? I. Doing and then you’re gonna ruin your appetite. I’m hungry, but never late for Sunday dinner. Should we wait? Speaker I guess you’re late. What I what do you? Speaker 5 Mean. What do you mean? What do I mean? Speaker You’re late for dinner. Ohh yes we are. We’re late for. By single minute. Speaker 5 Dinner. Yes, we were just just had to. Speaker Some aloe iodine on my shoulder. We got. Do his shoulder and. Speaker 5 Why is that breakfast cereal in the dinner table? Why are you being? Speaker Weird. Not not being. Acting. Weird. Well, I’m doing that weird thing with your face, so. Oh, we don’t know what you’re talking about. Speaker 5 Are you pregnant? Speaker Jimmy at the pregnant. Speaker 5 Yes, yes. Speaker You know, I know he just cannot. Speaker 1 That have you looked at your husband’s face? Speaker Keep his secret. Speaker 5 What, really, yeah. Speaker 2 What you are going to be the best mom? Oh, my God. Speaker And you are going. To be the best dad. Just kidding. You are out of your depth, but we. We’re going to be the best uncles ever. OK, we should eat. Dion Oh, there you go. Yes, that is exactly the kind of thing that we loved about the film. It’s really nice. Spoiler logos up, Pete. Destroy away. Oh, wait. Sorry. She has been there at the beginning. She will be there at the end. We here. Peter. Quinny ETA. Peta It’s not even my biggest complaint. It’s just that there was a moment at the end where I was like, I am going to have to have another full on rant about killing off female characters via self sacrifice and doing it to two female characters in one scene. UM. Quinny Thank God. Peta They recovered. They did recover. They recovered from it a bit and it didn’t really feel like it wasn’t going to recover. But for a moment there I was like, oh, oh, we are going to throw down. Jill I don’t believe you didn’t realise the magic baby was gonna save the day. Speaker 3 Sacrifice. Peta I did. It did, but there was a part of me that was kind of like you better ******* not. Dion Yeah, yeah, there was a little bit of that was it? It’s like, don’t you ******* dare? Jesus Christ, he’s not a. Defibrillator. He’s a baby. Jill I mean, you don’t have a. Magic mcguffin. The whole time and then not? Yeah. Speaker 3 Yeah. Dion True, although, but as as we all. Peta My biggest my my bigger complaints. Dion Know Franklin Richards. The monster. Peta My bigger complaints were were the iffy plot points like I’m like, correct me. I’m not a linguist, but I’m pretty sure you cannot translate an entire language with three words like I don’t. I don’t know that that’s possible. The Rosetta Stone had more than than than 3 words. Speaker 3 Yeah. Hmm. Dion Now. Peta I I don’t see how I don’t see how. Dion Important to understand that this is in the Universe 8 to 8 where things can exist a little differently and they are not this bog standard and it was one of those. Peta Oh. Speaker 6 But it’s it’s. Jill Things are like super. Peta It’s not the kind of plot point that you can explain away in your brain with that kind of reasoning like it’s not, but. Dion It has to be because that’s why I was. I was ******** about it and I yelled at Quinney until it came up to the thing. It’s like, but it’s not the real Galactus. And I’m like. Oh yeah, **** everything in this movie is not the real one from our universe. What? I’m getting angry at can easily be retconned by an executive who doesn’t like the feedback form. Speaker Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Jill But this is also a universe where Reed is a super genius that can solve teleportation and like, move a planet. That’s. Speaker Hmm. Peta It just like the jump between ohh, I’ve managed to do it to an egg. Jill Come on. Peta Let’s do it to a planet. Nothing will go wrong. I actually, I almost thought that, like, that’s where it was gonna get interesting. Like, that was gonna be this universe is snap moment when they, like, accidentally. Left half the people behind or something. Quinny That that’s what I that’s. What I was kinda hoping for like. Jill Yeah, there weren’t really many stakes. Quinny No, I ******* love the idea of them actually going *******. We’re gonna teleport the whole planet and. Dion And ******* it. Quinny Up what? Could something goes wrong like they they go to the wrong place or they find themselves in the ******* negative zone. Jill Like that ******* DC convergence where the two planets had to merge together. Peta Or and that’s the thing. Dion They do. How did they do faster than life travel, but. Not work out how radar. Exists stop the fact that Silver Surfer was coming to blow up all of their teleportation machines that that shaped. Quinny Me. She’s very fast. Peta And in your hand it just kind of looked like a regular size spaceship. I don’t know why they couldn’t have just muted it or something like it’s like felt like a lot of like ohh The thing is coming very slowly. This is the only thing we can think of. Dion That was my big ***** point that I will get my big boy britches on and have a whinge about. Galactus’s ******* world eating ship is just a giant space grinder and. And I didn’t like that because if you’re gonna go to, like the extent that they went to, which was really curvy, whole super 60s kind of thing. Speaker Right. Dion Make the spaceship ******* weird. Make it the giant machines that don’t. You don’t understand the purpose of what they do like. Have something that’s in there. Speaker 3 Hmm. Jill Yeah. What happened to like the? Big straw that he just shoves in the. Planet and like sucks it up like. Dion Yeah, all of that. But I mean, just like have the weird like, Kirby was great for drawing like. Contraptions that you love on the contraption, and they don’t. You don’t know why or how they work, or they have like extra bits that go off and they crackle with energy that you don’t understand how it sort of goes. He didn’t care about making it look well built. He cared about making something cool and stupid. And then they put Galactus. Fair enough, looked pretty good, you know, for a big. Quinny I look I. Liked big man collectors. I was down. Jill For that, yeah. I didn’t like how his. Height fluctuated with convenience. Peta Say he wasn’t that big in the end. Though was he he? He looked. Jill The lost, yeah. Dion A bit of juice out the back of the tube and then he got a bit. Quinny Maybe. Speaker 6 So then he went and shrunk a bit. Dion Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Quinny OK, let’s go with that, yeah. Jill He’s like ohh, now he can fit in this big circle on the ground that he like, would have Godzilla crushed the moment ago. Dion Crush. Sure. Peta Confused if planet size or if Godzilla size. Dion Yeah. Also how would sue push if 2? Quinny Because her push is not based on size, it’s based on willpower. Dion No, but push, baby. Ohh no. OK, recover. Push, galactus. Big baby. Oh, no much. Peta Is is based on magic mummy power? Quinny Yeah, yes, yeah. Like that. That big kind of finale stuff. I was like when he started to climb back out. I was like, ohh. OK now. Dion No. Well. Quinny We’re gonna get some shoes. Jill Yeah, I was like. Oh ****, I jumped. Quinny Yeah. Yeah. I was like, ******* sweet. Great. OK, now we’re gonna really ******* now, now we’re gonna wrap it up, but Nope. That’s just that’s it. Cool. Everybody get home. I would love to have seen them do something real. ******* ballsy. I would have loved to have seen them lose the earth, you know? Yeah. So that that’s why this Fantastic Four, like instead of. Yeah, that’s the run like this. Jill On the run on the. Sleeper on. Peta I’m not sure that Marvel is doing its answer to the trolley problem properly. Quinny Why not teleport the ******* baby and the family to another end of the universe, or to a different ******* dimension or whatever? Jill Because they answered that in the slack with pocket holes does. Speaker Yeah. Yes. Dion I mean. I look I I I I really got that like I enjoyed the bit where they were like, no, this is it honestly. Like we we we may be the people that everyone looks up to on the Earth and that’s a bit problematic to put that much. Responsibility. On four people who were there, but at least they always did it with heart, honesty, integrity and overall admission of failure. To the world. Speaker Hmm. Dion
M3gan 2.0 The B1tc# is B@ck is not the tagline for this movie… but it could very easily have been. After the surprise hit that was the first M3gan, Blumhouse have done what they do best, and that is turn around a moderately budgeted sequel in a surprisingly quick time. Does this make for an excellent film that expands the original property and deepens the lore and background of the character? No. Does is make for an energetic romp that features not one but two murderous cyborgs with dead, doll-like eyes, doing martial arts and ridiculous stunts? Possibly. Listen in the full review to get the down low on the download. D10n , Qu1nny and J1ll are all on board for this episode and you better believe they not only have opinions, but a bunch of ways the film could have been SO much better. Synopsis Two years after M3GAN, a marvel of artificial intelligence, went rogue and embarked on a murderous rampage, its creator, Gemma, has become an advocate for government oversight of AI. Unbeknownst to her, a defense contractor has created a military-grade weapon known as Amelia, the ultimate infiltration spy. However, as Emlia’s self-awareness increases, it becomes less interested in taking orders. Hoping to stop Emilia, Gemma decides to resurrect M3GAN, making it faster, stronger, and more lethal. https://youtu.be/Aiam4GCb-ug As always, a digitally self aware thank-you to the dolls and action figures who join in with the conversation on the Twitch stream, live each Tuesday night at 7:30pm AEDT. And an especially huge thanks to any of the A.I. chat bots and art programs who are kind enough to support us by programming a tip in our jar via Ko-Fi, or subscribing on twitch… every bit helps us to keep the lights on and keep Alexa happy or just pay for hosting…) If you feel so inclined drop us a sub we really love them, The more subby mc-sub-faces we get, the more Emotes You get! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYLHdEzsk1s&pp=ygURbTNnYW4gMi4wIHRyYWlsZXI%3D WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK! Send in voicemails or emails with your opinions on this show (or any others) to info@theperiodictableofawesome.com Please make sure to join our social networks too! We're on: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TPToA/ Twitter: www.twitter.com/TPToA Facebook: www.facebook.com/PeriodicTableOfAwesome Instagram: www.instagram.com/theperiodictableofawesome/ Full text transcript Dion Ohh yes. Speaker 7 It’s a feminine on and on and on and on. Norman non. Something like that. Speaker 4 Play diva humpty. Yeah, yes. Dion That’s what’s yes, it’s it’s all it’s all about female empowerment. You’re right about what else you’re right about here. Quinny Sort of, yeah. Dion No. Jill We trained our AI writing script on 1000 hours of RuPaul’s Drag Race and. This is what it came up with. Dion And yeah, and it’s actually better than. Quinny You you spent so long working out whether you could, you didn’t see whether you should but but but funnily. Going on this next week, sorry. Dion Enough that AI chat bot is still better than grok so. Quinny Yeah. Dion Hello, welcome to period. My name is and. Jill Jillian on. I am J1 all. Quinny QY Q1 and bifurcated numbers. Dion Yes. That’s right. And and Quinn, three, who’s there? And tonight we are talking about the sequel to the 2023. Jill Movie, yeah. Dion Methree again, I refuse to call anything else than. That Reagan 2. Speaker 8 I guess. Dion Yeah. Oh my God. Jill 3 and 2.0. Dion Yeah. Sorry. You’re right. 3 and 2.0, which if we’re going to follow these conventions, it’s going to be math. 3 gun version 4. Beta. Yeah, well, no version 4.1 final final use. This one final please. Final. Quinny Yeah. So no, really no really final and then you’ll find it in the wrong folder cause you for some reason chose the wrong place where you saved. Dion It. Yeah, yeah. Or someone will desperately call you and go. Did you make a backup of it? I deleted it accidentally. Quinny Always. No. Dion No or you start writing it in like a cloud based service and then suddenly someone will produce the movie 3 months before you were releasing it and. Speaker Thanks. Dion You’re like, OK. Quinny Hey, it looks like you’re trying to write a. Script for a. Sequel, you want me to **** it? Dion Up for you. Completely bad news. We’ve already scraped it and. Really. Sit in China. It’s bad when you get to the point where even asylum films are being outdone by people stealing the once. Speaker 7 That’s awesome. Quinny Oh, it hurts. It hurts and it hurts. Dion That’s not miss Reagan. Quinny No. So I want to know. Speaker Yeah. Quinny I I can’t remember. Did we all enjoy? I think we all enjoyed Megan, didn’t we? Jill We did quite thoroughly. We actually looked up the scores that we gave. Dion We did. Quinny It ohh damn you know. Dion Yeah, we did, yeah. When you weren’t here because you were late. COVID and I. Yeah. Now Jill and I went back and looked it up and we reviewed it in 20 January of 2023. And we gave it got a full score. Quinny Ohh Jesus Christ, because I’ve got for ********. Dion 85 because Karina’s score dropped it down from what would have. Been like nothing. Quinny Oh. Dion So we all had a nice time. Jill Thanks Karina. Dion Yeah. Quinny Good. Damn it. I mean, she’s in the chat right now. She could enter. Speaker 8 Yes. Yeah. Quinny For herself, yeah. Dion 100%. Quinny And incomes cash for with. Like that. Dion Subbing subbing for that. Jill Thank you. Thank you. As 51 month streak. Quinny Oh my God. Jesus. That’s incredible. Speaker 4 Wow. Wow. Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s. Jill God. Is that like how? Long. We’ve been. Yeah, it’s on Twitch. Dion Just swinging here. Yeah, yeah, at least. Quinny Yeah. Yeah, look. Jill Rocky. Dion We had to. We had to do all this stuff when it all became apparent that we couldn’t get together and talk about it, and now we just kept doing it. Speaker Hmm. Dion Yeah. So. Quinny We’re we’re still rocking and also Karina, I love the carinas. Not even sorry with her mark. She’s like, whatever. Jill Yeah. Dion Sorry. Jill No regrets. Dion Totally, no regrets. Look, I mean, thinking back to the time when we saw the original, I had a great time with it. It was a fun, quirky, slightly creepy Horror Story. It was. Jill Yeah. Dion We gave it a good score. It had a a fun thing in it. It had the weird dancing. It had the the, like sort of animal running. Very. Yeah. Very camp. But also kind of very creepy. And you just didn’t know how things were going to go. Jill Yeah, it was highly camp. Quinny It had a bit of style to it too, like it was, it was, you know, a pretty standard like slasher kind of thing. It was. It was child’s play, but with ale. Jill Yeah, it’s like, how do we ask the fibroid a. Quinny Chucky. Yeah. And I I was was very, very much into that. And like, you know. The the bit with. Yeah. Weird doll face thing chasing kids through the woods and you know, like a dog and ****. Jill Yeah. Pushing them in front. Of cars or? Quinny Yeah, yeah, there was. There was a whole bunch of cool **** in that first film, but I was like, oh, yeah, that’s actually kind of fun. There’s a. Jill Lot really kind of subverted the horror genre as well, but like being so overtly camp, I mean there are quite a lot of camp horror movies that, you know, become cult classics. But this was like. Dion Yeah. Jill For the modern era, you know about AI and. Speaker 7 Yeah. Dion Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. Jill What it’s doing to kids and that kind. Of stuff so. Dion It was near futurism, you know, it’s kind of like it’s, you know, we’re building robotics. Jill Syfy slant. Dion Yeah, robotics are more incorporated. It’s close to where we are. It’s a bit Black Mirror, but also it was, it was funny. Because watching. That’s creepy. It’s creepy. Funny you. Quinny That was the thing I think that. Know that was the thing that that really worked for me the first time around was that it was. Funny and like when it did creepy, it did creepy well, but there was enough knowing nods and funny to make. Dion Yeah. Quinny You go oh. Yeah, this this knows what it is. This. Dion Knows where it’s at and to be completely honest, begging for a sequel. You know, as soon as that the the credits rolled on the first one I was like, Yep, that will do. Yeah. Now we got a new franchise of the freaking. Speaker 7 Hold. Dion Killer Sassy killer robot *****. I like her. Let’s go. And now, what are we almost 2 and a bit years later, we’ve got 3 and 2.0. Speaker Yeah. Hmm. Dion Which is. Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, I mean. Jill I mean, I don’t think patina particularly. No, really. We’re like, OK, So what were all the things about? The first one that made it successful and what everybody loved, it’s like, great, let’s do that again, but more. Speaker Yeah. Hmm. Dion Yeah, I love. Like all of it when I think about the marketing for it. I was watching this come. I was like, oh, they’re now sound. Like, great, this sounds good. And then it was just catch phrase, catch phrase, neon catch phrase. And I’m like, oh, no. Speaker Yeah. Dion Oh, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, I didn’t like. I didn’t like the catch phrases from the first movie. I like the creepy murderbot. Speaker Yeah. Jill Yeah, they’re. Yeah, they’re like ohh quick. Culture is like really latched on to this, like, let’s pander to them more and just like, turn her into hunty diva boots, the house down, Yas Queen. Dion Yeah, yeah. Speaker 8 And it lost all. Speaker 4 Of the horror. Quinny Like, I mean, what was what was the? Dion Thing with it was like, ohh Miss Megan’s the the the horrible murderous robot. Oh yeah, that should be the person. We’ve got to empathize with. And following the sequel, it’s like, No, No, we don’t. Quinny No, no, you there are many things that you have taken away from this first film that you’ve taken away role. Speaker What have we? Dion What if we made her the antihero? No, please. No, no, guys, no. Quinny So do do you do you want a synopsis? I have the synopsis. Speaker 4 Ohh please. Dion Sure. I actually don’t have any music, but. Quinny No, no, that’s OK like. Dion There you go. I’ll put a little bit in. Quinny The background. There we go, OK. And I I don’t think I can do any kind of. Robot voice for this. Dion No, you. Quinny Cause like she’s, she’s auto tuned. It’s it’s all very, you know, Glados. It’s not a. Speaker Quinny Thing. Speaker 7 Quinny Two years after Megan. Mr. Egan. Whatever you wanna call it, a marvel of artificial intelligence went rogue and embarked on a murderous rampage. Its creator, Jammer, has become an advocate for government oversight of AI. Very exciting. Unbeknownst to her, a defense contractor has created a military grade weapon known as. Amelia. Here, the ultimate infiltration spy. However, as Amelia’s self-awareness increases, it becomes less interested in taking audits, hoping to stop Amelia. Gemma decides to resurrect at Merigan, making it faster, stronger, and more lethal. That’s not entirely. Accurate, no. I also I’m gonna assume that an idiot wrote this because it goes from being Amelia to Amelia, like there are typos and she had. All through it. Dion So what you’re telling me? Is the AI wrote this? Quinny I think it may have been written. Speaker No. Quinny By II cause it’s. Yeah, like it’s Amelia, the Emilia, and then something else. Dion Yeah. Quinny Well done everybody. Dion All of the characters that were there in the first one are back in the second one, and that’s yeah, kind of great. Like, you know, there wasn’t anyone who was offensive. Speaker 1 Yeah. Dion You know, and that some of the ideas that were presented were pretty good, you know, like, as in, how do you do a sequel? What are we gonna go here? I I have to say it’s not one of those ones that is kind of really dumb. Dumb logic. Like there’s a few jumps. Yeah. Yeah. Quinny No. Jill No, I mean like when I heard the plot for the film, I was like ohh, that sounds dumb. I’m in. Yeah, but like, in a fun way of like, it’s gonna be a camp horror film again. I can. I can buy into the ridiculousness of the movie, especially because like the cast is so good at selling it as well. Speaker Hmm. Quinny Yeah. And then. Yeah, and and I. Mean you’ve kind of got that tradition. Of something like Terminator and then Terminator 2 where you know the first one kill the robot second one. Ohh we make the robot the protector. But like cool. Yeah. And as Casper says, a worst to murder too. Yes. Yeah, Terminator 2 where like the the bad guy doesn’t have any. Any of the interestingness of the T1000. Speaker 7 I’m worse. Dion Kind of. Or, yeah, yeah, a major Japanese. Do you know, like Arnold Schwarzenegger always wanted to do more comedy, more comedy. You know, anything. Imagine if they just let him into. Medicine. Speaker Oh. Quinny Do you remember the the the the shots in Terminator 3 where he’s like he puts on the the the star sunglasses and stuff? Dion Yeah. And that’s kind of. Kind of weak. Yes. Quinny All that, yeah. Dion And that is kind of this version of of Megan. It’s like the yassif tied. Meghan. Speaker It’s yeah. Dion Versus. Jill To the to the absolute enth degree. Like they they went too far. They turned the dial too far. Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Fighting. Yeah. Fighting her as well. Not sister, but like cousin. Quinny All the way to levity, stupid. Cousin ****. Dion Sorry. Yeah, shin hottie from Asoka has has has appeared now as a murderous. Another murderous girl in this one which is, you know more realistic. And that was one of the things that kind of made me a little annoyed too. Was like ohh they took the idea like the the building blocks of Megan and made another one. And this one looks like a real person though. It’s like no part of the reason Meghan was creepy. You know. Well, yeah. No, she’s just murder robot, like stock standard dog standard murder robot. You know who’s hot? Ish. Hmm. Jill Yes, exactly. Quinny For for a yeah, in a prepubescent, weird way. Like, yeah, it’s. Jill Don’t get me wrong, I still had a good time. I still enjoyed the movie. I enjoyed the movie. I was. Quinny I was. I was. OK, that’s what I wanted to know. Jill Spying the plot. 2°. Speaker Yeah. Jill The actors again really sold it. Quinny Yeah. Jill They you know, they they were committed to the bit. You could tell that they were on the emotional journey. Just the thing that bothered me was it was so obvious. That they were. Trying to go harder than they did the first time around and it really just kind of lost the specialness of it being a subversive horror film. Speaker Yes. Quinny 100%. Speaker Yeah. Dion And I feel like they muted. Jill Yes. Dion Megan, in a certain way, because they were like, no, no, the actual murder 1 is this other robot who will do the evil murdering, and then we’ll limit. Speaker Oh, gorgeous. Speaker 4 I feel. Jill Like Meghan in the first one was, like, really harsh and like a Serbian, but this one was just kind of like. Dion Again. Hmm yeah. Jill Yeah, yeah, Devo let’s do. It. I’m like, what? Yeah, no, like, compliant. I don’t really get. Dion Yeah. It, well, the creepy thing about the first one, which I really liked is she was quiet. She was observant and she would be calculating, and that was the creepy thing about it. You, you. She’d be standing there looking and you’re like, what the **** is that thing thinking about in this one? They just put that internal monologue straight out. Quinny Yeah. Speaker Yeah. Jill Yeah, it was way too vocalised. Dion In that. Of like. Quinny Yeah, yeah, at no point in time. Are you questioning what her thoughts are? I mean, the the they do their best to give you a whole bunch of twists and turns and you know, shouldn’t be just a who’s a good. Dion I’m doing this now. Jill Yeah, I appreciated that because yeah, there was a lot of moments where I was like, oh, OK. Quinny Guy who’s a bad guy. Jill It’s not the that’s not what I thought it was. OK, well, we’re going somewhere else on this journey. But Megan, just monologue too much. Quinny Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jill So like all of her motives were like out there. Dion Yeah. Quinny But also it felt like it had it had taken it from being a like a a creepy little, you know, stalky horror film like hand that rocks the cradle. Is this this cute thing suddenly deadly? It literally turns it into a candy coated weird sci-fi like superhero film like and I I’m look ************, I’m all down for candy coated superhero sci-fi, but this felt like Shark boy and lava girl a lot more of the time than it felt like Megan. Jill Yeah. Dion Including that you know the the images, it’s just off to the side there where she looks like love the girl like. Quinny You know. Dion You’re saying? Jill Oh yeah, yeah. That moment from like, the the thing where she was in a costume. I’m like, when I saw that. I’m like, wanna cosplay it? Dion Dancing comp the Ayo. Speaker Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Jill That was, yeah, it was a fun outfit. Dion Don’t. Don’t do the dance, though. Do the the original dance like. I mean, that just felt like it was trying to replicate the dance that we saw in the first one. Which was weird. Umm yeah? Jill That’s the thing they’re like. How do? We do. Do all of the things from the first one that everybody loves but like, do it again and have them love it again. Speaker Yeah. Jill And there was like another I’ll, I’ll say I won’t spoil it for anyone, but it was another musical moment where I was kind of like, ah, OK, it was funny. Speaker 7 Oh. Jill The first time around, but now. I I don’t think I can be in this moment. Seriously. Quinny Yeah. Yeah, I when when we come to talking about this, the spoilery stuff or whatever. Yeah, I’ve got real issues with that like. Dion There was some. There was, yeah, there was some genuine like, I mean this is. The thing like I. I think as a whole I didn’t. Really enjoy the film. But. Speaker Dion There were bits in it that I was when I was going through it was like I had a fun time. Like I felt like it was a good fun time and I was going with no, this is moving really. This is moving pretty quickly. It’s it’s complicating itself, but then it’s kind of untangling those complications. I got lots of shades of like 80s movies that I didn’t think I’d get. Like I got a lot of Superman 3, like a lot of Ghostbusters. Quinny It was a massive Superman three, yeah. Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also the Superman 5 nuclear man. I got that too. So was that four. Sorry. Apologies. Sorry. Quinny Yeah, there is number. 5. Dion No, no, that’s no, that was I was thinking about Highlander 5. But yes, Superman stuff and and some Ghostbusters, some other stuff that was thrown in there. I was kind of like. Jill Bit of Metropolis imagery as well. Quinny Sure. Very much so. Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple of twists, which I was like, oh, that was quite a. That was a good twist. Or that was interesting. And then a lot of the other stuff I was like, that’s just this is. Fine, but not great. And yeah, by the end of it, I’m like, I don’t need a myth organ or a mafia. Quinny Like I I would be happy to go back and and you know, re explore the Megan math Regan thing like. But I would want like something that went back to formula. Dion You know. Quinny I want something that is crappy. I want something that is about killer robots that. Dion Yeah. Jill Yeah. I mean, did Halloween or Friday the 13th, like, ever screw the pooch on the second film? Quinny You don’t trust. Speaker 8 Like. Quinny Probably. Jill Oh, OK. Well, how do you have like such? Dion Yeah. Jill A long series in a in a horror franchise still be scary every movie, but like you. Quinny Know this and this is where this one fell down for me. Is that like it forgot that it was? Speaker 7 Hmm. Quinny Horror movie. Yeah, like it totally, totally lost its its teeth. You know, there, there were a couple of. Heads spun around and stuff like that, but. Jill Yeah, there was like some gore, but like, that was about it. None of it was like terrifying. Speaker But. Quinny And there was no, no tension, no thriller like that, yeah. Dion Yeah, the the like some of the violence was there and remember it was all committed on the screen. It was mainly committed by the new one. Amelia, which in and sorry acronyms. I’m. Like. Oh, sorry acronyms, not acronyms. Acronyms. People must be sitting down trying to write. How like what name? Is this because of we have to make it into an acronym. I felt that that was a bit of a stretch, but like you know, they had all of those things done by her. But when it came to Megan, you know, nothing very bloody. Dement it happen and then they use a you know, a writing tool to stop her from doing that stuff. And it was so frustrating because that was what you wanted. You wanted this homicidal robot that you don’t trust to do those things which make you not want to trust that you want her to be an unreliable. Narrator. Jill Umm yeah, but I kind of felt by the end I was like, ohh, come on, Megan, you can do it like I was cheering her on. Dion Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Betray them. Betray them. Betray. Yeah. Speaker 8 Yeah. Dion That’s kind of what you’re going for. Speaker Hmm. Jill Yeah, it was way too much a a hero’s arc. Dion And I felt. Like in the. Jill Redemption. Dion In the in the setup too, you’re you’re given to Gemma the character Gemma. You’re given all the tools at the start of the movie to actually go. You’re being. It and you deserve to have something bad happened to you. You deserve to have your trust broken because you’re being sheet and that was just a bit of a let down to not have that kind. Quinny Of thing come through? Yeah. Yeah. Like they were. They were introduced a few new characters. Get rid of them very quickly. In most cases, like you know, and some of the fun, like I I thought Jermaine Clement was having a. Lot of. Fun yes. Dion Ohh he’s he’s he’s sort of cameo character was great. Speaker 8 It is great value. Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you ever gonna. If you ever gonna create a tech, bro, you don’t like. Quinny Yeah, done, man. And and I, I felt like. Jill He works. He wearing a prosthetic chest. Quinny 100 yeah. Like I love that because it was just so musky. Like it was screaming the ******* Musk. All the way. Dion Yeah. And look. Quinny I mean, yeah, I would watch Megan versus Chucky, like the new Chucky that is the robot doll version. Dion I haven’t seen you. Quinny Jackie. Ohh that that one. Jill You need. Quinny God. Came out a few years ago now I think I’m not like. And then you’ve got the the mystery or you know, mythology of demons versus technology. Yeah. Dion Oh. I like, I feel like that. That’s something that they like. They went for that in the third film and it was like Megan versus Chucky. I’d be like, OK, fine. I’m. Back in, we’re. Quinny We’re on this, yes. Dion Let’s get back to this. It’s about them compare like competing with each other about how to do the most gruesome murder. I’d be like, great. That’s OK. Back on track, you know, steered in, you steered into the skid, and now you’re right. Everything. Speaker Yep. Quinny Yeah. Because they’ve definitely they’ve they’ve hit this one well and truly sideways, and they’re heading right for the ******* barrier. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like there are moments in it that I laughed and I really enjoyed, like, you know, there’s a a point where Megan takes it over a car and and you know that like. Speaker Yeah. Jill They’re complaining. Quinny Just because I’m a fan of of Knight Rider, I was like no. OK, thank you. But then I thought you may have laid it on a. Little thick there guys. Dion Except for its catch. Jill Yeah, you can’t imagine Kit saying hold. On to your. Vaginas. Yeah, no. Quinny And yeah. Dion And that’s what I’m saying. There’s like, catch phrase. Everyone’s laughing, right. And I’m like. No, everyone went. It’s like they you. It was the first. We all know you don’t have one. And secondly, come on. You know you’re supposed to be a 12 year old girl thing or or are you now a teenager because you’re growing up in the AI space. Speaker 7 Hmm. Dion You know, and it’s like, OK, you’ve got the the metaphors that you’re going for here, you know, the the difference is everyone has to grow and become different. I’m like, yeah, but that doesn’t mean you go from. Homicidal robot too. Maybe I’m the savior. Quinny I mean there, there is some other interesting stuff that I I do want to talk about that is less fun, right? Jill Ohh, like the narrative around technology and intelligence. Quinny Yeah. Yeah. Like the there’s, there’s. Like they’re trying to say something here and that’s the thing that occasionally feels. Speaker Yeah. Quinny Interesting, but also at odds with the kind of film that it is like they’re they’re very definitely making some pretty big swings at, you know, is AI a problem and what is? What are the questions of the the ethics of it and everything. But the thing that got me. Dion Yeah. Quinny And that kind of weirded me. Out a little bit. So the guy Christian is, is an AI ethicist and is somebody who’s trying to get AI shut down, basically. There is. There is a podcast I listen to quite regularly and. The weird thing about is the person. One of the two hosts of this one. It’s OK. It’s from a place called the Center for Humane Technology. And they’ve been doing talks and speeches around the world about the AI dilemma and what it’s actually doing to. What? What it’s heading towards, it’s not good. The lead guy of the podcast is a guy called Tristan and the fact that they kept he’s not Tristan. He’s not Christian, he’s Christian. I was like ohh ****. Are you taking a swipe at Tristan? Jill Tristan is gone. Ohh, do you think it was like actually? Quinny I’m almost 100. Speaker 8 Quinny Percent sure they are, because like. Dion Come on, let’s be honest. They’re taking a swipe at whoever is anywhere near anything. Quinny Yeah. Oh, yeah, like. Dion They’re not. It’s it’s a shotgun effect. It’s they’re they’re not sort of sitting there going. Oh, no, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll use the scalpel on this one. And the scalpel on that one, it’s like. You know like. Who’s talking in this space that we can sort of base a few characters around? Yeah, that’s a. Bit of a thing off we go. Quinny Yeah, I don’t know. But also the fact that like where they kind of placed it at the end of that, the AI ethicists are actually the bad people. You’re like. Speaker Hmm. Dion Don’t worry though, if don’t worry if the big. Jill You they kind of subverted their whole message. Quinny Yeah, yeah, totally sure. What you’re saying here, folks? Dion If the. Don’t worry, don’t worry if the big, beautiful bill passes, then we’ll have 10 years of sorry, 12 years of unregulated AI stuff in America. So why regulate something if you don’t understand it? Speaker 4 Ohh. Dion Yeah. I know, right? Quinny You know, let’s let’s send Miss Reagan to to alligator Auschwitz and she can, like, dance around through the. Dion Screen. That’s how it should be called I think. Sorry. Jill Yeah, they’re calling it our first cleaning. Dion Alligator, Alcatraz. Quinny Yeah, that’s what. Speaker They’re called. Quinny What they’re calling it, I’ve seen the. Dion Yeah, yeah. Quinny Photos that shoots out. Dion Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all know what this is, right? Right. Yeah. Quinny Like the literally, I watched a ******* speech from DJ. He talking about? Ohh yeah. We’ll let people out on day release to farms. I’m like that’s slavery. Dion That’s worse. That’s worse, Ryan. OK. Although predicting, thank you for updating me there. Apparently, it has been that that provision was was struck off. So I don’t know, maybe sure. Speaker 7 Hmm. Quinny Sure. Ohh Aski has an idea and I do quite like Meghan goes into Tron. OK. Yep. And and then she can. Jill Yeah. Quinny Fight Jared Leto. Dion Yeah, betrogen. No, but do you know what that? Would do that would be. Because then it would. It would gasify Tron. Be like pink, pink light cycles and things going just just in. Quinny Just the right light up. Dion Yeah, she’s just she’s just throwing producer money at her. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly how much go for it, actually, to be fair. Yeah. Kind of a Yas. Tron would be a fun aside. Quinny Yeah, make it happen to Disney. Jill Gastro. Quinny The queer eye for the Tron. Guy. Dion Yeah, Jared, you’re looking so weird and and orange. It’s the old color. We need pink, pink everywhere. Let’s go. Like you know. Quinny Yeah, I would watch that. Dion Yeah. Yes, there we go. Jill Honey, you’re a winter, not a summer. Quinny And the more I think about the first Megan, the more I go. God, I really enjoyed that film. Yeah. And the more I think God, this film was kind of dopey. Dion Yeah. Also like, I mean, I. You know, talking about the way that they presented this to it’s like the villain of it is like, oh, it’s just this sorry we we created an assassin bot and it’s gone rogue and now it’s trying to do something and it’s kind of a bit like, so what’s it trying to do? Oh, well, we can’t really tell you till later in the film. And then we’ll explain sort of things. That has to do with photocopiers, and that’s a real plot point. Sorry, but you know, you’ve got this. It doesn’t actually make it like it’s not as bad as you. Quinny You know like. Dion There’s no great villain there. There’s like in this. It’s easy, it’s cause like, well, Megan’s the murderbot. So she’s bad. And this one, it’s like, OK, are they really bad? Is anyone really bad? Who’s the actual bad person here? And it’s like, no, no, no. Just give us our hat to hang it on. That’s all we’re after. We need a bad thing. Stop the bad thing. We don’t need the twists and the turns. Speaker Hmm. Quinny Yes. Yeah, and the the familial relationship between Gemma and and Katie like that. I was able to hang my head on that. For a lot more like. That still works, and there are actually a couple of bits in there that I really enjoyed. There was 1 moment that I was like oh ******* hell. Where like they they go into a bunker or something like that. And Katie’s cracked the ***** with Gemma. She ever tries to hold her hand, and then Katie just ******* jujitsu’s the **** out of her. And I was like, oh, oh, nice. Oh, sorry. Aikido. Jill Yeah. Speaker Yeah. Dion Sorry, which we all know is in a real martial art. Quinny Is coming for you right now. Yeah, well. You’ll be here in like 5 to 7. Dion Years. I always say that to the Aikido people. Like what are you going to do? Wait to redirect my energy? Just trying to start a fight. It’s all right. Quinny It’s never gonna work with my Peter. Dion No, exactly. Speaker Just. Quinny I’m gonna slap your hands. Dion Wait. Sorry. Quinny Anyway, yeah, like there there are. There are moments in there. There are relationships in there that work, but I feel like. Jill Yeah, I think there is definitely a better film that could have been made instead of pandering to the audience. I think wanted this movie, yeah. Quinny Yeah, I did see an interview briefly with the producer of it who is. So the other thing we haven’t actually mentioned the film. Has tanked really badly. Jill Oh. Quinny Yeah, like it has not done anything like the numbers they expected. And the producer was saying, yeah, we we probably followed the wrong directions and we have made wrong choices. And yeah, I’ve had a bad weekend. Jill Ohh. Quinny Which I I feel bad for them because. It must be really hard when you’ve had a massive success. To go. OK. What are the things that worked? Jill Here’s what I’ll give you for free, I bet you. All the money in the world, it was a team of white, straight CIS men that decided to write this film. They were like. Oh, OK. Well, if the gays and the girls love this, then let’s just do more of that and they’ll have absolutely like, no. Perspective around what actually made it good in the first place. Quinny Yeah, there is. So one of the writers of Aquila Cooper who wrote malignant. But yeah, you have a couple of writers, Gerard Johnson and James Wan. Jill James 1 you. Should have ******* known better bro like. Quinny He really ******* should have. Jill Yeah, cause yeah, he was on the first one as well and like that movie was such a sigh. But this one was just like. Dion It feels I know so like it does feel like they as you said it might not. Jill Away shante. Speaker 8 Sashay away. Dion They might have fed too much, you know, RuPaul’s Drag Race into the idea. Shut out engine. Jill Yeah, 100%. Quinny Algorithm. Dion Yeah. And I do feel like you’ve got, it’s like a lot more complicated like in the first one, it’s pretty, it’s a pretty simplistic plot, you know? Yeah, it’s not too. It’s not too hard. This one feels like it’s like, oh, we’re going to get way more complicated. It’s bigger. It’s everything we’re going to treat this as a whole thing. You know, she’s now a, you know, internationally recognized. But on these things. You know, the whole thing wasn’t just swept under the rug. It like, you know, the first movie, the the stuff became an international in like, news story and all that kind of. Thing and I’m like, yeah. But no, sometimes it’s better to just be a bit smaller and a bit tighter like. I mean, it could have just been a whole thing of Megan trying to get her body back after being existing. In all these things, and they did have a few notes about that in this film, but I it jumped the shark for me when it went to like, how does Megan Switch herself around in between things? And I was like, wow, this makes. Absolutely no sense. Jill Yeah, they could have saved the military grade. Megan’s. For the third movie. Dion Sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Jill Just build to it. Don’t do it. Don’t go. Dion Yeah, yeah, I know. But I mean, you know, like when at what point are we getting to the underground? Club of Megan’s. Jill Yeah. Speaker Never. Jill Yeah, full read. Never go full R word. Quinny Yeah, no. True, no. Dion Fight Club never go full Fight Club. Quinny And this film didn’t. Yet. No. Yeah. OK. Should we rate it? I do. There are a couple of little things I want to talk about in the spoils. Dion Yeah, sure. Runtime question that was in there. Yeah, 100. And 20 minutes it didn’t feel over long. Quinny To me, I don’t know. No, I was watching it and I I I kind of got to the the third act and I was ready for it to be done. Sure, you know. Speaker 7 The world. Quinny Like I I all I wanted a big enough twist in that third act to make it worthwhile, and I didn’t really get it, so I was like. Dion Mean we you know. Speaker Sure. Dion Well, I mean, yeah, alright. Do you have an idea of ratings? Has anyone said in the chat? Check it, check the. Rating in there you. Quinny Yeah. If you’ve seen, it’s put a number, I will look for the number with the the 100 symbol because it helps me. Dion I’m going. I was lower and then I raised it back up a couple of notches because a couple of the times I went, that’s actually quite generally funny. Speaker To. Work out. Dion And especially 1 gag, which I was like. Ohh no, this is the worst. And then by the end of the gag, I was like it. Got better over time. It aged in the moment. Speaker 7 It. Dion It aged in the moment and I went. That’s actually really ******* funny. Like it was awkward and awful and cringe for like 3 minutes and then by. Speaker Yes. Speaker 4 I was like, I’m never doing it again. Dion The end of it I was like ohh this. Speaker 7 Is all they all they just leave. Speaker 8 And I’m like, actually, yeah, they they held it and you had to keep keep. Dion Yeah, don’t you? Don’t you dare go to the ******* chorus. Jill. So. So yeah, mine was lower and now it’s come back up to 60. 5:00 that’s fine. Speaker Yeah. Quinny OK, down as in as a 65, OK. Jill Oh wow. I gave. Megan won 90 last time. I really ******* loved it. Dion Wow. Yes, yeah. Quinny Yeah. Jill I still enjoyed this. Movie. I’m not gonna be ashamed about enjoying the movie like, especially because it it pandered to my tastes. The only thing that disappointed me was that there was not one horror element left in it, and that was the whole point of it being so great the. Quinny Don’t don’t be. Dion No. Speaker 4 Yeah. Jill This time. So I mean, I still I. Still loved it. The characters are great. Megan is fantastic, the jokes were dumb. I I lived. Maybe a 75? OK, this time, yeah. If they had had, like, if it was still a true horror film, it would. Probably be another. 90 again but. Speaker Yes. Quinny Yeah, I’m. I’m. I’m probably gonna. Yeah. Split. No, actually, no. I’m going to close the deal on this one. Like. Yeah, I I. It’s so frustrating watching something where you can see the elements of something really fun and then go. Why did. Where, where, where. Did that go like? Where’s the tension? Where’s the the scares? Where’s the anything that feels slightly? Horrific or, you know, any of that and also, you know, as you said, you know, including shin hottie in there basically means that like if she’s meant to be the scary thing. Then use her as the the scary thing. But she’s not scary. Jill No, she’s just sexy and I’m like, can she stalk me? Quinny So sexy. Dion Yeah, yeah. Quinny I would, yes are you? Are you? Dion A guard. Quinny I’ll I’ll get. I’ll get chest and and Abby implants too, so. So yeah, I’m. I’m down with dark and I’m about. I’m a 65 as well. I it’s OK, but it’s not a patch on the 1st. 1. And there are a couple of points where I was like, I don’t even remember where Megan got damaged, but then she shows up with the horror of, you know, melted face and stuff. And I was like. Doesn’t feel earned. Doesn’t feel like you know. We. God. Yeah, it’s just, it’s just missing stuff. Jill I don’t know. Yeah, they tried to turn. Everything into a gag. Quinny They really did. They really, really did. OK, right. We have a a clippity Doo dah or something like. Dion We’ve got an extra long clip that I’m going to play the entire thing of, and this is after Miss Reagan has been upgraded. So now she knows Kung Fu. Speaker Speaker 1 Just wanted to say great job on those actuators. Speaker You’re welcome. Speaker 1 Hey, so remember the time I strangled you and said the lab on fire? I just wanted to clarify that my programming only allowed me to count principles related to my primary user. As a result, I was unable to see you and Tess as being consequential. But I want you to know that won’t happen again. I want you to know. I see you. Dion Is she or? Is she not going to be murder? But again find out more when you go and see Miss Reagan. I’m putting this whole thing up. There we go. Perfect. Covering anyone thing. Yeah. Jill All right, we’re all dying to ******* talk about it. Quinny What the **** was up with the singing? The musical number that you’re just. Speaker 8 Like. Jill Yeah, yeah, we got a an amazing rendition of titanium in the first film. Quinny Hmm. Jill Yeah. And this time around we got a bit. Of Kate Bush. Dion Redeemed. Quinny I didn’t recognize and I. Was just like, what are we? Singing here. Dion But I mean like that, that was a joke that I saw like that came up and that’s the one where I’m like, yeah, this is not great. This is just awful. What are they trying to do here? And then they really like, it’s it. I think that’s like a metaphysical like, you know, they’ve they’ve got the meta of this, it’s gone through and they know the inside the actual scene. They’re like this is. ******* terrible. Speaker Yeah. Yeah, what? Speaker 4 Are you doing? Yeah. Quinny Yeah, yeah. And we’re we’re gonna keep it going to make it uncomfortable. And now it’s funny. Uncomfortable. Yeah. Dion Yeah, yeah. Speaker 7 And. Dion Yeah, look. Jill Come on. The whole cinema laughed when that. Dion Oh yeah, for that one, I was just thinking, man, photocopiers. Why the **** a photocopier is the worst thing? OK, that felt like a gag out of someone who’s like, oh, we saw office space, and we hate printers and stuff, right? So what if we made the actual villain of this entire thing a photocopier? That’s basically been kept at a gulag and is now the worst thing in the plan. Jill Ohh. Yeah, that was strange. Quinny Strange. Yeah. I mean, though technically not even a photocopier, it was just rob. It was rob from Nintendo. Jill Is that true that if you isolate like an AI from anything, it just grows smarter? Like to me that sounds like the complete and. To the system. Speaker What would actually happen? Quinny It was such periodic concept. That you know. Ohh it’s been left alone. So it’s just gotten more and more dangerous. I’m like, no, it would just be running exactly the same process as over and over and over. Jill Also, why is it? Why is it connected to any kind of power? Dion Yeah. Just turn it. Quinny On using it forward. And and that was the moment the Superman 3 moment where, like, they finally connect to the the black box or whatever the **** it was called. Motherboard. I don’t know. Yeah, the motherboard. And I was like, ohh cool. We gotta get a like. I was really hoping for a weird Superman 3 ******* like. Dion Yeah. Quinny Electrical **** coming out and overtaking people and like, you know, go full body horror, go a little bit of ******* Cronenberg, you know, really delve deep into the the the almost like. It’s the kind of **** if you’ve set up this horrific AI that has just been stewing in its own evil for 40 years. Then make that some cosmic horror ****. Don’t just make it shin hottie with glowing eyes. I was like, come on, **** sake. Yeah, disappointing. Got very, very angry at that bit. Jill Yeah, it was. Speaker Strange. And it was, yeah. Dion You know, it’s sad that like they made like some of the returning the returning supporting. Cast was also great. Yeah, like their interactions were still good and they were the voice of reason, which is all the audience going. What the **** are you doing? Why you’re even interacting with this thing that tried to kill everyone. UM. And then they try like they do that where, like putting it into that weird robo body, the little kind of one that was, that was actually a cute and fun way of doing that. And then that thing did nothing. And they immediately skipped past that. They moved all the jokes or anything you could have done with it, you know. Speaker Ohh yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Dion Fun you could have had tough. Yeah. If you have had it. Like in that way. Quinny I thought that was going to be half the film. Dion For half the film, sure. Quinny Again that, yeah. Jill Yeah, then earn upgrade. Quinny Yeah. Yeah. And there was, there was a moment of something that they used that I was like, actually that’s kind of creepy and cool. There was a moment where they’ve been working on a, like, a exosuit that that, you know, helps people move and. And you know, that’s what they’re trying to move people around. And at one point that becomes animated by itself by, you know, something inside it. And I was like, that would have been *******. Speaker 1 Yippee. Quinny You know, in a dark house, this thing that’s coming towards you that moves in completely in human ways. Jill If 2/3 of the movie was Megan jumping around things trying to get a new body, and then you pay it off in the third act, you give her a body and she defeats the bad guy that would have. Dion Yeah. Quinny **** yeah. Jill Worked. So much better than giving her a body at the end of the first act. Quinny Yeah, like she she goes through, like, cute little body. Then she goes her own half rebuilt. Jill Or if she started out in the weird like exoskeleton thing and then it’s like, Oh my God, it’s Megan. And she’s, like, trying to kill. Quinny And then. Jill People and. ****. Yeah, and. Quinny Yeah. Jill Then give her the harmless one. There’s no arm. Quinny And. Dion Yeah, I’m trying to remember. Quinny So much of that would be much more entertaining. Speaker A bit. Dion The film upgrade, but I was thinking more of like, do you remember the film, the horror film hardware from the 80s? Speaker Hmm. Dion You know which was about a, you know, a robot that slowly rebuilds itself out of. Junk. All right. Jill Ohh ******* poltergeist like. Speaker Yeah. Jill You. Dion Know yeah that like. Jill Possessing inanimate objects. Quinny Yeah, like they, they, they, they’ve forgotten the face of their fathers. They have forgotten where they came from. And you know, that’s what. Jill The horror films that paved the way? Yeah. Dion I mean, they feel like they. Had when they were doing the ideation for and they’re writing all the scenes and they’re thinking about the action pieces that they can have with it. It’s like, great, you’ve got enough content. There. For about what 5 movies? If you, but if you just took each one of those and gone hey. Yeah, exoskeleton version, then you know weird cutesy robot version then like oh body rebuilt version. It’s like great. That’s actually separate. Jill Yeah, exactly. Dion With cool, creepy things you could do along the way to to to make all that and include that kind of crazy sense of humour. And, you know, sassy attitude. Jill Yeah, what if they stumbled upon, you know, Megan rebuilding herself and she’s like, you know, that half created corpse dragging along the. Dion Yeah, yeah. Speaker 4 Floor. Dion Exactly who wanted to play a tea party with a little girl? That that’s all she is in her brain. And she’s like I’m 43 years old. Jill Kind of. Horror motif. Speaker 7 I’m not a little. Dion Girl anymore. You know, it’s kind of. Like ohh. Jill Yeah, they took the cheap way out. I. Quinny Think. Yeah. And they went for. Yeah, suffication. And they went for superheroes and they went and. Dion I feel like I feel like. They didn’t go for yes vacation. They went for merchandising opportunities. Quinny Yeah, yeah. Dion You. Know. Speaker Yeah. Jill The marketing team wrote the movie. Dion Yeah, I feel like a little like it looked like, you know, Megan had enough versions in the sequel that you’re like, ohh, that’s an action figure line. Quinny Yeah. So we’ve, we’ve, we’ve got sci-fi Robo doll. Megan, we’ve got, like, original Megan Reed rebuilt. We’ve got. Dion Assassin Amelia, Cyber Amelia, you know. Quinny Yeah. Yeah, motherboard God. Amelia. Amelia. Dion Or, you know, low jacking the brain implant. Megan, which is actually. Quinny Hmm yeah. Once again and there was an idea when Megan Labor, I love it, but. Jill That’s the one in the. Squirrel outfit, where she’s flying into the Silicon Valley. Quinny See and that was the whole number where I went. What the **** did we just become? Like, you know, Tom Cruise. At what point in time did Megan have to become Tom? Dion Yeah, exactly. Jill She’s a robot. She doesn’t show up on anything. Why is she flying in stealth mission? Speaker 8 Like. Quinny It was dumb. It was just. It’s too dumb. Was Benoit Blunt dumb? Ohhh yeah. But yeah, like on a on a very surface level. Yeah. OK, that’s fun. Yeah, great. But it’s not because it’s dumb and it doesn’t add up to anything. And there are so many better ideas out there. Why aren’t they hiring us? Dion I don’t know. Corny start pitching them and then. Quinny I guess the well used to be. Have somebody who’s very good at pitching on our team, so maybe we. Dion Should, couldn’t you start writing it? Then you hand that writing over to Jill, Jill, Yasir, fly. The **** out of. Jill It. Yeah, it’s not within an inch. Dion I’ll I’ll add. Jill Of its life. Dion Yeah. And then she’ll give it to me and I’ll Add all the things that the executives want to cut out so that they feel like they’ve done something. And then we should be able to get it through, no worries. And then Peter, Peter will take all those ideas, screw them up, throw them away and make something worthy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quinny Sweet, so. Actual thing that it’s doing. Dion That has nothing to do with killer robots and more stuff to do with. I don’t know crocodiles. Yeah. And like, sure environment. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Worthwhile. Projects. Quinny Dion Well, you know, look, hey, that’s. All I’ve got to say about methadone. Quinny So I’m I’m very excited cause what are we doing next week? Folks. Dion Next week, you mean for the show or next week for the screening next next Wednesday special time again next Wednesday or we are going back to Dinotopia. That’s right. They made a movie about the Dinotopia books which are quite excellent. So all of those things here now is it seventh film in the franchise of Jurassic something. Speaker Yes. Mm-hmm. Quinny All I need to know, yes, this is the I I haven’t seen it yet because I came down sick and couldn’t go to the screening. Dion Don’t worry, we went for. You. Quinny Thank you. Thank you very much. Are they doing Dino riders yet? *************. Dion No. Quinny Like I don’t understand why this is so hard. Jill There’s some Dinos right in the. Dion Yeah. Quinny Actually, so uncomfortable with that. Dion I mean, there was also a lot of. Jill And yeah, Karina’s just said Jonathan Bailey’s ****** little glasses pressed to her. Even those ****** little glasses could not save this film. Speaker 7 Although also next Wednesday, Jill hold hold off for for that one. Yeah. Yeah. Next week. Quinny Oh, oh, cards on the table early. Jill Everyone knows my love for wanton dinosaur destruction. Dion Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s. Speaker Yep. Quinny I’m and I’m wanton dinosaur. Jill Destruction. Yeah, I I, yeah. Still want it. Dion Sure. I mean, we’ll do all that and more next Wednesday, but because we’re not, we’re doing it Wednesday because on Tuesday, what are we? Speaker 4 We’re gonna watch. Yes. Dion Which is save us. Save us James Gunn, save. Quinny Very excited about that. Speaker Us. Quinny Just looking forward to Nathan Fillion’s Bowl cut more than. Dion Who knows? Who knows what that’s gonna be? Quinny Anything. Speaker 4 Going to. Is he? Jill Playing guy Gardner. Quinny 100%. How have you missed this job? Jill I keep saying I got it in the trailer, but I didn’t realize. It was nice. Quinny And when you look at it, you like, oh, that’s actually pretty. Much perfect for Guy Gardner. Dion Yeah. Yeah. And as long as he’s a complete ****. Quinny Yep, yeah. Have you seen the videos where he’s using his ring constructs as just big middle fingers? Dion Gotta be he just has to be. I’m like no. Jill Ohh God, I’m going to like this movie, aren’t. Quinny I I’m looking forward to it, if nothing else, just because there’s a whole bunch of ******* crypto. Dion We’ll see. And then at the end. Quinny And. Dion Of. The month? Yeah. At the end of the month. Don’t forget we’re doing the movie. That’s out today on Netflix, which is the old guard too. Quinny Good God, yes. Dion Yeah. There you go. You got your homework. Got your stuff there. Hey, just before we all end up, I just want to get a quick, quick litmus test. How are we all feeling about the running man trailer? Quinny Yep, Yep. Plenty of stuff out there. Dion Oh. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Jill. Jill I’ve been doing work at work, which sucks so. Dion Did. Speaker Well. Speaker 7 More full you work. Quinny Are you at home, which sucks too? Dion Yeah, you should just have a window open on your computer that can hide quickly when someone walks past you with trailers running constantly. Speaker Do. Hmm. Jill How can I hear them? Dion One earpod like thing that’s. Speaker 4 In there. Ohh Glenn Powell. Quinny Yes. Dion Did you watch the 80s? One Schwarzenegger running man. Speaker 4 Maybe. Dion He’s a convict. He’s being chased down by Dynamo. And change does or and. Quinny You. You. Yeah. I was gonna say. Dion Like a bunch of 80s wrestlers are the villains in it who are like who have been Yasir fried and have come out and try to hunt down on Schwarzenegger. Quinny Exactly. It’s. Dion You’ll you’ll love it. Quinny It’s very 80s WWF like animal and hawk, ******* the The Undertaker and all that kind of stuff. Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quinny But the idea being that, yeah, this guy has signed up or has been essentially press ganged into participating in this televised Death Race. Yeah, where? Yeah. American Gladiators chase you all over the place and try. And kill you for real, yeah. Dion Yeah, yeah, yeah. And instead of just knock you out, they actually literally cut you and have the chainsaw. Quinny And it’s all televised. Yeah. Yeah. So it’s. Yeah. It’s based on Richard Backman book, Our Last Stephen King. Yep. And the original always had a bit of a kind of a darker, more kind of like, social commentary thing of like. Jill My cup of tea. Speaker Hmm. Quinny Could you imagine where our world gotten so bad that people take? Dion We’ll do this. Quinny A gig. You know where they just possibly get hunted down. But if they survive, they get all the money in the. Speaker Yeah. Quinny World or whatever. And that was before reality TV became the yeah. Yes, exactly. Like I love that Stephen King was like, oh, this is just reality TV before. OK. Jill Dion Funnily enough, one of the one. Of the things I actually read the. Quinny You you have. Dion I watched the movie and I read the book and the book has a. Much different ending. Which is way, way ******* darker. Yeah, but now Edgar Wright is remaking the running man, and it’s Glenn Powell. And Glen Powell has been kind of again, press gangle set up to be in this game, and the game is the same sort of thing. But in this world. Of the current state, which is constant surveillance, people around you all the time, everyone has phones and everyone is playing like they’ve got some hunters that are trying to kill you. But if you feed the information of the location to the whereabouts of this person to a hunter, you can win money too. Jill Ohh. Dion So everyone’s on the hunt for you and you just have to survive 36 hours. That’s it. Quinny The the unfortunate thing is now looking at the State of America and like, yeah, you know, ice and stuff. I’m like, oh, ****, this is it’s kind of a little. Bit. ******* close, yeah. Dion Yep, I feel like it’s it’s we’re we’re six months away from this actually being a new thing. Quinny Mm-hmm. I’m just, yeah, worried that people are gonna go. Let’s do that. Let’s. Do that as as an actor. We’ll see. Dion But not here. We haven’t got there that just. Quinny No. Yet no, no, we’re we’re, we’re. Dion We’re doing OK. Hey, at the moment, look in in in NSW, the rain has stopped. It’s the the the cyclone bomb hasn’t been too bad and the sun’s out. So everything’s great. Peachy keen. Quinny Yeah. Yeah, we’re doing alright. You guys doing OK seeing you for. Dion Happy days. Speaker Yeah, we’re doing that. Quinny Dion A while I don’t know. You’ve been where? D&D’s. Quinny Ohh yeah, actually I do want to give a little bit of a shout out to the the wonderful critters of Australia so. Dion Like echidnas and. Quinny Yep, drop beers. Tie pens. Dion Koalas. Kangaroos. Quinny Yeah, but yeah, no. Like, I went down to Melbourne last week, which is why I couldn’t do the show to go to. Dion And probably where you got. Quinny Yes, it’s possibility because that’s where I got the ropes. Speaker Sorry to know. Dion Anyone else who went to Melbourne to Rod Laver Arena last week? It’s Quinny Quinn gave. You COVID? Yep, all 11,000. Quinny Of you. I’m sorry. Sorry. Yeah, but yeah, it was. It was lovely. And, you know another 5 hour show of D&D, which was very entertaining. And Tom Cardy was very, very good. He did both shows very, very entertaining. Held his own against, you know, people who have been doing this for 10 years. And yeah, there’s nothing quite like seeing 11,000 ******* Dean Dean, nerds singing along to a, you know, a song and shining all their lights. It was it was like going to a massive music concert. But you watch them do maths on stage. Like at one point I’m pretty sure somebody was like adding up this goals and was like. 11,000 people watching me do maths. This is like every nightmare. I’ve ever had. Dion That’s good. Quinny Yeah. And we saw Tari, who was in the chat before. But I don’t think he’s there anymore. Yeah, and. Dion Ohh. Quinny You got a pretty unitary. Pretty kangaroo in Sydney, Tara and Melbourne caught up with some friends, had a lovely time. Generally it was ******* delightful and I have been paying for it ever since it’s been so. Speaker No. Dion Excellent. Quinny I’ve been watching a lot of TV. I watched weird TV show called Scavengers Reign and everybody should check it out. Actually, no, I’m I’m not going to say that. It is the weirdest ******* animated series I’ve ever watched and. It’s. I I have a thing called trypophobia. Where you know, seeing holes and uneven patterns and stuff like that creeps me the **** out. This show is just all that. It’s just Cronenberg body horror, ******* weird, alien mushroom, creepy. Oddness. But it’s really quite cool. Like very slow burn. Very weird. Have you ever seen the art of Mobius, the French designer? Jill Right. Dion Yes, I know of moob the moob. Quinny Yeah, it’s. It’s like a lot of that anyway. No, I didn’t go to the Lego Star Wars exhibition. I’m sorry. Dion How dare you? You’re not one of us anymore, Connie. I’m looking forward to going seeing some soccer soon. Oh. Jill Yes, we yes off to see Wrexham. I have, yes. Quinny Ohh Yep. Have you watched the last of the episodes? Of this season. Dion I have not. Yeah, I have not. Yeah. And Jill, you going to get your wrestle on soon? Jill Try again, yes. I am. I got *******. Speaker 4 Tickets to ******* WWE. Jill In October, I’m going to smack down. I’m going to crown jewel. I’m going to roar. **** yeah. Dion Nice. Quinny That’s so cool. Where’s that on here in Sydney? Jill Or no? Is it the RC in Perth? Speaker 7 Oh. Quinny They often go to Perth. I don’t know why. Jill Because they have a three-year contract with WA government. Quinny Ohh, I always wondered why like because that’s a long ******* way to go. Speaker Yeah. Dion Yes, but also the WA government has money and also all of the FIFO workers over there probably really do like the. Speaker 7 Wrestling that’s be honest. Quinny Yeah, yeah. True. Dion That’s that thing. Quinny We’re well and truly down for. Dion That’s creating a stereotype and I’m like, I don’t care to that. Quinny That. Jill Very, very excited, though it was a little bit of a Taylor Swift moment trying to get the tickets. Ohh, we got them. We got the. Quinny There. Dion Got the tickets. Quinny Well done. Dion Yeah, and that’s just trying think what else is coming out this week? Ohh, naked gun at the end of the month and Fantastic Four. So. Quinny Yeah, and and our, our, we are definitely keen to try and sort out Fantastic Four but yeah, we’ll we’ll see what happens like. Dion Yeah, we’ll see what happens. Who knows, there’s currently. There’s currently rumours that Pedro Pascal might even be here for the premier, which is making everyone panic. That who? Yeah, like I don’t. Jill Get the *******. Quinny So so if if he’s here for the premiere, we probably won’t be going to the screening. Dion No, we won’t be able to get within 400 kilometres of the screening cause of. Gaming. Quinny Yeah, ohh all of them are. Coming for it. Yeah, I. Mean we’re definitely not going to Australia. Dion No. Yeah. Maybe we will. Who? Who? Who knows? Like, you know, they’re just gonna do their thing. Quinny Put the request in but you know. Dion Yeah. Who? Who knows? Quinny Pretty Kangas you said. Yeah, strange new worlds coming back at the end of the week. End of the month. Jill Ohh no I have to resub to. Paramount back. Quinny Yeah. Dion Y
Step into the world of towing excellence as DJ Harrington and Darian Weaver explore the remarkable stories featured in the latest issue of Tow Professional Magazine.At the heart of this episode is an inspiring profile of 92-year-young Marilyn Rogers, whose journey from aspiring pharmacist's wife to towing industry pioneer began during a 1957 blizzard. After witnessing tragedy, Marilyn and husband Dewey purchased their first wrecker and launched what would become a towering legacy. Her story showcases true resilience – from dispatching calls and driving trucks to becoming the Wisconsin Towing Association's second female president and cleverly talking her family out of a hostage situation.Join Darian as he shares exclusive insights from his recent tour of Towmate's manufacturing compound in Bentonville, Arkansas. What looks like a single facility from the outside reveals itself as an impressive multi-building operation where innovation happens daily. Witness how Brian Anderson transformed wireless towing lights over 40 years, creating manufacturing capabilities that can take products from concept to production in just three days.The hosts also highlight cutting-edge equipment developments from Warrior Winch, whose T1000 series compact winch pulls 25,000 pounds while remaining lightweight. Learn about their Armortech synthetic rope that delivers steel-equivalent strength at a fraction of the weight – technology Darian has personally relied on when stuck in four feet of mud.Discover how towing operators can generate additional revenue through EV charging stations, a diversification strategy that proved critical during pandemic slowdowns. The episode provides actionable insights about maintenance, facility outfitting, and preparing for industry evolution.Ready to enhance your towing business with expert guidance? Subscribe, download, and share the Tow Professional Podcast – the authentic voice of towing and recovery professionals who serve with heart.
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#pokerstrategy #thelodgecardclub #pokervloggerAndrew Neeme is the OG when it comes to poker vlogging and his poker strategy is documented in detail throughout his popular YouTube channel. However, those poker vlogs could hurt his win rate during the Lodge Card Club live stream after he flops a boat against T1000, who may have studied Neeme's game […] The post WPH #552: Did Andrew Neeme Just Get OWNED???? first appeared on Jonathan Little.
A brilliant comeback from Villa earns a draw at the Emirates against Arsenal. Unai Emery keeps getting results against his old clubs. Tielemans and Kamara keep getting big performances from themselves.Aston Villa's 2025 continues in fine form and we discuss the game, the Sky coverage, the referee and Mikel Arteta. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Diane and Sean discuss Diane's favorite movie of all time (?). James Cameron's T2: Judgment Day. Episode music is, "You Could Be Mine", by Guns N' Roses.- Our theme song is by Brushy One String- Artwork by Marlaine LePage- Why Do We Own This DVD? Merch available at Teepublic- Follow the show on social media:- IG: @whydoweownthisdvd- Tumblr: WhyDoWeOwnThisDVD- Follow Sean's Plants on IG: @lookitmahplants- Watch Sean be bad at video games on TwitchSupport the show
Though it was missed on the first round of 90s films, Will and Matt turn back time to tackle a film that needs no introduction, T2: Judgment Day, the movie that offers the very best of the 90s, arcades, biker bars, liquid metal... robots...DISCLAIMER: Language and Spoilers!!TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAYdir. James Cameronstarring: Arnold Schwarzenegger; Linda Hamilton; Edward Furlong; Robert Patrick
In the final episode of this Too Hot For TV mini series on spin offs from other franchises, Dylan is joined by Ross from the General Witch Finders to talk all things Terminator. Together they discuss each of the cinematic outing for the franchise, before jumping into the comic 'The Burning Earth' written by Ron Fortier with art by Alex Ross, then they look at the Universal Studios ride T2-3D: Battle Across Time and finally they talk about the 90's Kenner Terminator 2 action figures. And as always the answer the burning questions: Who is sucking on a Robert Patrick? Why are the resistance so sexy? What has Arnie got in a dead cat? Ross's other podcasts:https://shows.acast.com/general-witchfindershttps://shows.acast.com/dark-darzetTerminator 2 toys adverts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew109tRRK7w&t=26sT2-3D: Battle Across Timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeXd9fFtBW8
The boys are looking to close out the season with the classics and you know what that means. Absurd FMK and Walk Out segments. Ahh the hits. This is all, of course, after Joe recalls the time he tried to stop a shoplifter and ended up impersonating a T1000. Have you seen this boy? Have you heard this episode?
Another week, another rockstar in the sky. T1000's brother is not only in a band, but has an incident on a plane that leads to their biggest song. Here are the upcoming dates (with more cities to be added soon)July 19 - Sydney - ON SALE NOW! July 20 - Newcastle - ON SALE NOW! July 21 - Canberra - ON SALE NOW! More dates to be added soon!-----------------------------------Heggie's tour "GROGAN" is on the road again! Whole lot of dates just added!-----------------------------------Heggie is now a comedian (ding), father (ding), ABC panel show guest (ding), AND NOW AN AUTHOR (MORRREEEEE CHILLI)Get his book, IF YOU MUST KNOW, by clicking here-----------------------------------Heggie dropped a THIRD YouTube special, LOWBREED, but still left the comments closed like a coward. Watch it here.Cody's new stand-up special "LIVE AT THE CORNER HOTEL" is OUT NOW on YouTubeHave a squizz and leave comments before he takes Heggie's cowardly route and turns off the comments.HEGGIE JUST RELEASED ANOTHER STAND-UP SPECIAL "TIPRAT" ON YOUTUBE FOR FREE! WATCH IT HERE.Heggie has a stand-up special out on YouTube "HAVE THAT" and his stand-up special, "LUKE HEGGIE - I ALREADY TOLD YOU" is out now on Paramount+-----------------------------------PATREON.COM/MIDFLIGHTBRAWL to avoid the harsh insults of our lovely Patreon members and to get your own in next time.NEW ONLINE STORE AND NEW MERCH AVAILABLE!LIMITED EDITION 'ST. JAYDEN'S COLLEGE' GREYHOUND POLO'S OUT NOW! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Join Brian for the 100th episode of the Agile Mentors Podcast as he dives into the future of Agile with fan favorites Scott Dunn and Lance Dacy. Listen in as they explore the evolving role of AI, the continuous need for leadership innovation, and the Agile community's journey towards greater accountability and effectiveness. Overview In the 100th episode, our expert panel celebrates by examining the latest trends and enduring challenges in the Agile industry. They discuss the critical need for organizations to adapt and innovate, particularly through leadership and management strategies that foster high-performing teams. This episode is a deep dive into how embracing change and technological advancement can propel the Agile industry forward, ensuring that organizations not only survive but thrive in an ever-evolving business landscape. Listen Now to Discover: [1:10] - Join Brian in a special celebration of the 100th episode of the Agile Mentors Podcast, featuring a look forward to future innovations in Agile! [1:43] - Brian kicks off the landmark 100th episode with a forward-looking panel on Agile and Scrum's future, featuring experts Scott Dunn and Lance Dacy. [4:01] - Listen in as Brian asks the panel to share their insights on emerging trends within Agile and Scrum, setting the stage for a thought-provoking conversation. [4:15] - Lance highlights key trends including solutions for scaling challenges, the integration of AI in Scrum, and innovations in leadership and management. [6:54] - Scott emphasizes the enduring impact of Agile and Scrum in driving organizational enhancements. [11:36] - Lance underscores the critical need for leadership and management to adopt innovative approaches and acknowledge generational changes to effectively engage and support their teams. [13:30] - Addressing the provocative statement that 'Agile is dead,' Brian explores its implications on the real-world demand for Agile compared to its perceived necessity. [14:50] - Brian, along with Scott and Lance, urges the Agile community to recognize its shortcomings and learning experiences, which they believe may be contributing to negative perceptions of Agile, and how the community could approach it differently. [24:10] - Brian encourages you to try out Goat Bot, Mountain Goat software’s Scrum & Agile AI tool. This free tool is trained to handle all your Agile and Scrum queries—start asking your questions today! [25:58] - The panel explores the impact of AI on enhancing agility in organizational practices in estimating, development, and so much more. [32:20] - Brian stresses the importance of using AI as a tool to support, not supplant, discussing ways it can improve rather than replace human efforts. [43:23] - Brian shares a big thank you to Scott and Lance for joining him on the 100th episode of the show. [43:44] - Brian thanks you, the listeners, for your support and shares his excitement for the future of the show, inviting you to send us your feedback or share your great ideas for episodes of the show. Just send us an email. [44:57] - We invite you to like and subscribe to the Agile Mentors Podcast. [45:16] - If you’d like to continue this discussion, join the Agile Mentors Community. You get a year of free membership into that site by taking any class with Mountain Goat Software, such as CSM, or CSPO, or Better User Stories Course. We also have Advanced Certified ScrumMaster® and Advanced Certified Scrum Product Owner®, where we get right into the good stuff and have some deep discussions. We'd love to see you in one of Mountain Goat Software's classes, you can find the schedule here. References and resources mentioned in the show: Scott Dunn Lance Dacy Goat Bot Certified ScrumMaster® Training and Scrum Certification Certified Scrum Product Owner® Training Advanced Certified Scrum Product Owner® Advanced Certified ScrumMaster® Mike Cohn’s Better User Stories Course Mountain Goat Software Certified Scrum and Agile Training Schedule Join the Agile Mentors Community Subscribe to the Agile Mentors Podcast Want to get involved? This show is designed for you, and we’d love your input. Enjoyed what you heard today? Please leave a rating and a review. It really helps, and we read every single one. Got an Agile subject you’d like us to discuss or a question that needs an answer? Share your thoughts with us at podcast@mountaingoatsoftware.com This episode’s presenters are: Brian Milner is SVP of coaching and training at Mountain Goat Software. He's passionate about making a difference in people's day-to-day work, influenced by his own experience of transitioning to Scrum and seeing improvements in work/life balance, honesty, respect, and the quality of work. Scott Dunn is a Certified Enterprise Coach and Scrum Trainer with over 20 years of experience coaching and training companies like NASA, EMC/Dell Technologies, Yahoo!, Technicolor, and eBay to transition to an agile approach using Scrum. Lance Dacy is a Certified Scrum Trainer®, Certified Scrum Professional®, Certified ScrumMaster®, and Certified Scrum Product Owner®. Lance brings a great personality and servant's heart to his workshops. He loves seeing people walk away with tangible and practical things they can do with their teams straight away. Auto-generated Transcript: Brian (00:00) Agile Mentors, welcome. This is our 100th episode. Can you believe it? We've been doing this for 100 episodes now. So first, before we even get into today's episode, I just wanna say huge, huge thank you to you. Thank you for listening. Thank you for giving us feedback. Thank you for giving us suggestions. We would not have made it to 100 without you, so. Huge thanks to you. And to celebrate, we're trying to do something different here for the 100th and not just let it go by and not mark this occasion. So what I wanted to do was to have some of our regulars, our favorites on together so that we could really kind of look ahead. So let me introduce our panel for today. First of all, I've got Mr. Scott done with us. So Scott, welcome. Scott Dunn (01:00) Thank you, Brian. Glad to be here. This is awesome. Congratulations. That's so cool. Brian (01:04) That, thank you, thank you, thank you very much. And then another favorite that we have on quite frequently is Lance Dacey is with us as well. Lance Dacy (01:13) Hey Brian, congratulations once again. I remember us just talking about this when you were starting out with podcasts and you look at 100. You do this every week, right? Is it a, has it been a hundred weeks? Wow. Brian (01:22) Yeah. Yeah, we do this every week. We missed a couple. Our listeners probably know there's been a couple of times in there we've taken some small breaks around holidays and other things. But yeah, this is going on just about every week since then. Lance Dacy (01:38) Well, congratulations. That's amazing. Brian (01:40) Thank you, thank you. Yeah, I'm amazed and as I said, very, very grateful. And it really hit home to me when I went to my first conference after doing this and people would come up and say, hey, I listen. That was really a cool moment. And I always tell people, hey, I'm speaking to other conferences, come and say hi. Come and say hi to me this year. So as I said, I wanted to have a panel so that we could talk about, we've been... Scott Dunn (01:40) Amazing. Brian (02:10) doing this for 100 episodes and lots has changed, lots have changed over the past year and a half, almost two years now that we've been doing this. We kicked off on, I think it was May 18th, 2022. So we're coming up on two years of doing this. And my thought was, what's gonna happen over the next 100 episodes? Like, where are we gonna be in the next two years? Where are we gonna be in the next five years? What kind of things are changing? What are we going to think about stuff over that time period? So I wanted to have a panel to kind of comment and discuss this with us and Where I wanted to start is maybe not where I think most people are going to think I'm going to go But I want to start with kind of the agile industry kind of the way things are going now for Coaches consultants scrum masters product owners So I'm gonna throw this as an open question and whichever of you wants to go first, go first. But what do you think we're seeing right now? What kind of trends are you seeing in that realm? And where do you think it's gonna, where do you think it's going? Scott Dunn (03:26) I nominate Lance to go first. Lance Dacy (03:28) Okay, here, obviously they're thinking about Scott. It looks like he's got something to say. Okay, well, that's a tough question because I think it still depends on the industry and the organization. It's all made up of people still. So there's still a lot of variables, I think, that affect the way that we do our jobs as transition coaches or business agility coaches or agile coaches, whatever you wanna call us. I think... Brian (03:29) Hahaha Lance Dacy (03:59) You know, I think there's still plenty of organizations out there that are struggling to bring their people together to deliver great products. And it's not because they don't want to, it's just lacking the skills and the frameworks and things to do that. So I still think that there's some organizations out there that benefit from saying, hey, let's just start from what we know and start doing this and then adapt to it as it changes. But I think a lot of times organizations, I think scaling is one of those big. problem child out there that people have kind of learned how to do this with smaller teams and smaller parts of the organization, but getting the whole organization to collaborate together. And of course, they look to another framework for that. And I'm kind of framework agnostic, especially when it comes to scaling, because I think at the end of the day, if you can't do it well in the small environment, it's going to be very difficult to do it well in the large environment. So the best thing you can do is kind of analyze your own situation. with like value stream mappings and cross-functional teams and things like that, and try to make sure that you're organizing yourselves and preventing waste as much as possible, I think is one of the big things. But I've also seen a kind of an uptick in, of course, these practices in agile being distributed over non-software domains. We've seen that for a long time, that's not necessarily a new thing, but I think it's gravitating more. to that. But I think the biggest one is really what we're talking about today is how is this AI stuff or what we have been talking about, how is that affecting this? And I think it's here quicker than we really think, or already here. And so trying to figure out how to handle, you know, data driven decision making based on that and, you know, using these tools to integrate. And then I think the last one that I would talk about is leadership and management. I think There's a specific type of environment and culture required for these people to thrive and collaborate and leadership and management has not seen a lot of innovation in the last 150 years. So, I find myself spending a lot of time coaching executives and mid-level managers on how to foster an environment that we can know how we practice psychological safety, empowering people and making it a great place to work, especially in this remote distributed environment. So I don't know if it's... All that's fairly new, but I think it's more prevalent than it was in the past. So I don't know, Scott, go ahead. Scott Dunn (06:28) No, that's good stuff. And I've only got 35 points I want to walk through. So one, I think we had all agreed that this idea of agile seems to be the common experience we're seeing as we're still coaching out there in organizations. They think that they've already done that. That's in the past. What's next? Or they settled in like, we're just hybrid. And it's not a. So help us move forward. It's like, no, we weren't done that. Here's this other thing. But the other things they're needing. And I like it, Lance. You kind of mentioned a couple of other words that people use, like organizational improvement, organizational chiasm, these ideas, like, hey, we're trying to get better. And I almost rather use those words because if I use a word they think they know, then we've kind of lost the fact that, you know, we're there. It strikes me, it's a little bit like marketing. They're just like, nope, marketing's done. And now we're doing this. And like, no, marketing's always learning, moving forward, growing. And I think we're gonna see this idea they realize, like, oh. Agile wasn't like a destination we check the boxes now they're on Scrum team. So that's one thing we're continuing to see. And the reason I'm saying that is the problems are still the same problems. We're talking earlier about capacity management, visibility, clear, you know, can execs see where we are in these larger initiatives? And the answer is like, no, they're still not doing those well. That speaks to whole org. And two quick stories on that is one, we're working with a company that decided like, yes, we're going to take this whole org approach. Lance Dacy (07:27) Yeah. Scott Dunn (07:45) And once they, within a few months, they'd gone from cycle time of 100 days down to 10. They had tripled their productivity. They went from one release every two weeks to seven in a day, right? But that's because the whole org is represented as they're rolling out, actually holistically. Let's contract that with a company we're just talking to this week. I was trying to describe getting a group together, it's representatives across other departments who have people who have authority, who have influence, finances, et cetera. they could not grasp the idea that there'd be a team working on improvement items across the org. It took several explanations, like I'm not talking at the team level. I'm talking about the team that's working across the org level. And what part of this comes back to is I think of the idea of I'm a manager. This is my own like awakening recently. If I'm a manager, let's say I'm the software engineering manager, I'm the director, my concern, this is my mistake earlier, my concern is not, are we doing ads all right? My concern is, is my boss getting what they want? If my boss wants clear reporting on where we're at the features, I don't care if it's Agile, waterfall hybrid doesn't matter. Did you show me a nice pretty report that gives them what they need? That's what I, that's what I do not wanna be called into her office on Friday about, right? So I keep mistaken, like they wanna do Agile, right? No, they wanna check the box and what they're accountable for and meet those expectations. And I know the higher up the or we go, the less they probably understand about Agile. At least that's the surveys that I'm running is like a... a 20, 30, 50% gap between what these people say their managers think they understand about Agile and what the people actually do in the work know that they understand Agile or not, which is always a large gap. A good example of that is remote. I'm not trying to kick a dead horse when it's down or whatever the saying is, but we've talked about remote a lot, but here's what we're seeing is, I think the basis of a lot of this return to office is simply, I don't know my people are working or not, I just need to see them. Brian (09:30) Hahaha. Scott Dunn (09:41) I can't tell, and I can't see them, I can't tell, and I get nervous, which really means I don't really have an understanding of fundamental aspects of how work is done using transparency, inspect and adapt, all that, right? And because I can't really, I don't really have mastery over that, I'm gonna need you in the office at least three times a week. Because I don't, I'm not really watching the work anyways, but at least I know you're showing up, and I'm accountable to make sure people are busy and working. That's, you know, I draw it down to its most rudimentary level. To me, it's a reflection of the capability of management. You mentioned that, Lance, about leadership. I think we're starting to see Lance Dacy (09:41) Right. Brian (09:52) Yeah. Scott Dunn (10:11) What we probably will see is this real cutting line of those who get it and trust their people and they work. And we've seen, you know, 10X, 100X on, on experts really let loose to do their best work and those who are simply like, you know, managed in that traditional sense and all the drawbacks and your loss of talent, all that. I think the companies will have to pay the price eventually. Thinking back to the time when people didn't really want to go ad drug because they thought it was a fad. And it didn't take but a few years, like, um, I could be wrong. Brian (10:35) Yep. Scott Dunn (10:38) maybe that is a thing we need to do, right? And then everyone gets on board, but there was a lot of kicking and screaming and doubting the early years. I think we're gonna see that with remote work is made like the proving ground of do you really work this way or not as a manager? Do you get this or not? So those are some of the trends I see. I still see a lot of people still in the very fundamentals because they think these things are already understood and known and we're moving on to something next. There is no next. I think the pace of change out there is if you're not working this way as an organization, you're losing ground already. Like... while they're listening to the podcast. Lance Dacy (11:08) It's like the remote, you know, what you were just saying is like the remote is the automated test for your operating system at work is like, if it works like that, then we're likely doing some really good things. But you know, I remember, um, I'm going to show my age here though, but prior to my technology career, I worked at FedEx and I was in leadership and management, managing their third largest hub here in Fort Worth, Texas, uh, the air hub, you know, and FedEx did a great job teaching leadership and management and all that kind of stuff. Brian (11:08) Yeah. Scott Dunn (11:14) Thank you. Lance Dacy (11:36) And I remember them focusing on the idea that you cannot lead and manage people currently how you are going to in the future because they were talking about how the new generation is coming on board and they just won't tolerate certain things. And I think you hit it on the head with that, Scott, that if these managers don't learn how to lead and manage with this newer generation, two or three removed from what I'm talking about. you're not going to have any employees because they will not tolerate it. They do not work that way. They work radically different. You know, I'm going to categorize money as a gen X person. And I'm going to say we were taught to be very individualistic, climb the corporate ladder, you know, keep your pain to yourself, just grin and bear it, fight through it, do the best you can and be autonomous and don't rely on a lot of people. And, you know, don't trust anybody. You know, the latchkey kids, we just were independent. We learned how to do it all. And that's not necessarily bad. We needed to be managed a different way than these people now. I, and I've got four kids, so I see it. It's like, they're not going to tolerate this stuff. So you hit it on the head with that leadership. I mean, coverage, a broad spectrum, but, um, Mike gave a talk in Oh nine. I'll never forget this. When I first went to the scrum gathering in Orlando and Oh nine, and he was on a panel and he said it really succinctly. He said, I hope we don't call it agile or scrum anymore. It's just the way that we work. Brian (12:36) Yeah. Lance Dacy (12:54) And he was referencing object oriented programming. You know, he said, we don't call it object oriented programming anymore, it's just programming, you know, object one. And so it's like, yeah, we're not going to, let's not have this debate. We want to build the highest business value things as early as possible with the least amount of costs who can argue that that's not the right way to run an organization. So let's not debate it. Let's not use the buzzwords. Let's just do it. Brian (13:01) Right. Scott Dunn (13:12) Yes. Brian (13:18) Yeah, I agree. And it's, you know, kind of back to what Scott said, too, there is a marketing issue here, right? There is this kind of idea of people are so saturated with the terms that they've experienced them and they feel like, hey, I know that I know what that is, I don't need to be I don't need to learn any more about that. And now I'm just kind of moving forward when they don't really. And that's what drives all the people out there that are saying Agile is dead and all the Agile is dead speakers and all that stuff. It's not dead. And if you listen to them, they don't say it's dead. They just say, people don't understand what it is. And so they're doing it wrong. I think there's kind of this interesting dynamic going on. Right, because on one hand, I think we're at a time when Scott Dunn (13:54) Mm-hmm. Brian (14:03) businesses could benefit the most from doing things like Agile because they're gonna get the most with less by doing these kinds of approaches. However, at the same time, we're hearing stories of entire Agile departments being let go in different organizations. And we're seeing people who struggle after coming through classes and stuff finding work as a scrum master, even though there's a demand. There's high demand still for these kinds of things. So there's sort of this dichotomy that's going on of, I think there's a slump going on in the agile demand when the need for it is high. And maybe that's a marketing, right. Maybe that's a marketing thing that we haven't done a good job, but I wanna propose one other thing here and I wanna get your guys take on this. Lance Dacy (14:51) than ever. Brian (15:02) The people who say Agile is dead and they say that, we shouldn't be doing this because we should call it something else. Because no one understands what it is anymore. And that's why they say it's dead. I have generally thought of those, and I think many of us sometimes fault the leadership a little bit in this to say, they didn't invest enough to understand it. They didn't really support it, right? Kind of that mentality. But I think that as an Agile community, that we need to own up. Like, I think we just need to step forward and say, you know what, we have not always done it right. And there's been plenty, you know, I talked about this in the Scrum Master class. There's plenty of Scrum Masters out there who think that the job of being a Scrum Master is to schedule meetings. And that is it. And... Scott Dunn (15:55) Oh. Brian (15:58) You know, those people, you can understand why a company would say, I don't need that person. I don't need a person to do that. And then all of a sudden they're letting go all of their Scrum Masters because they think that's what a Scrum Master is. So I think we have to own up a little bit to say, we're partly responsible for this, right? We're partly responsible for the bad impression that Agile has and we just gotta own it and say, yes, that's true, but that's because we've made mistakes as well and we're learning. Lance Dacy (16:17) Thank you. Brian (16:28) And now we know better, right? Now we know what we're supposed to do. But the pretense that we maybe came into it with, saying, hey, we know everything and we know how to do this stuff, was what caused the downfall, I think. What do you think? Scott Dunn (16:32) Hmm. Lance Dacy (16:44) It's like the overlay though of saying here, here's how you do it, right? I think what we got wrong or not necessarily wrong, just we didn't know any better at the time is, I've worked with 20 companies and this way work, let's try it. And then if it doesn't work, we'll adapt it. Cause I think it's always been about that. But you know, just like any approach, you know, the effectiveness of that approach depends a lot on how it's implemented, supported, adapted, taught. And I feel like what we should just start focusing on, you know, it's hard to put this in one term, Maybe it's just like helping and facilitating the creation of high performing teams. Like that's an unarguable thing that you would want to have. What's happening is the organizations either whether they misunderstand the role or have a bad experience in the past with it because you can't say their experience is invalid, right? Everybody has their different experience and opinion and what they went through. And I acknowledge that. But if you think of any professional sports teams, what's happening in the organizations in this world? Brian (17:20) Yeah. Lance Dacy (17:43) is they're getting rid of the coach of the team. And what we have to do is start recognizing what does the coach really do is trying to make the team high performing. You know, in professional sports, it's to score points and win the game, right? Well, kind of trying to do the same thing here, you would never get rid of the coaching position saying, well, all they do is watch film and tell the team what they're doing wrong. No, I mean, Andy Reid, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs, they won the Super Bowl, arguably the best football team in the world, if that's what you're using as a bar. And... Scott Dunn (17:46) Thank you. Brian (17:55) No. Scott Dunn (18:03) Thank you. Lance Dacy (18:12) And so they've arrived, they're the best. Do we get rid of Andy Reid? No, they need him even more because they get complacent and they get this idea that we don't need to change anything. And I see plenty of teams like that. It's like, no, the coach has one of the hardest jobs in the world is to tell the best performing team in the world they can get better. And the organization sometimes is the wet blanket and suffocating the environment for which that team can perform. Scott Dunn (18:16) Thank you. Lance Dacy (18:37) And I feel like, you know, instead of whether you want to call it a scrum master and agile codes or whatever, it's almost hard to use those terms. Some of these people anymore, because they'll just sit there and argue with you about it, but let's just say I'm trying to coach a high performing team and how can you argue with that, you know? Brian (18:50) Yeah. Yeah, I don't think you can. Scott, what do you think? Scott Dunn (18:53) If I was to ask you, well, if I was to ask both of you, do traditional management, whoever's making hiring decisions, do they know what an agile coach is and what's in telling them that they're doing well or not? And I would argue the most don't. And I think that's why we see a lot of people, I mean, in the end, people follow the money. I don't call people for work and their own self-interest. So if I can just update my LinkedIn profile and change it to agile coach. and whoever interviews me can't tell a difference. And that means I get a salary bump and of course, or let's just tell it like it is. And I think your listeners, I know you to be good with this. If I can just take a two day class and I'm gonna get a 25% salary increase, whether or not I get it or not, let's not even go there. Like I passed the test, I've got the certification. And unfortunately, I think that's more the dynamics of any given market is like, oh, it jumps to the solution, right? I just, you know. hire these scrum masters and I've done the agile thing. And even though any of us would say like, that's much bigger than that, this agile coaching involved is much more than the two day class that you need, et cetera. But think about that. I'd look at the people that I've trained, which, you know, is thousands. How many companies actually came back and said, we need help as an agile coach? 20, 22 dozen, right? That we actually went in and did real transformation work. So that's them not asking. That's them like, no, we got it. I think that simplicity of understanding Do I take a solution or do I go through a mindset change? Well, taking the solutions is going to be easier. So I'm going to jump to that rather than like reflect, like, I think we need to change. Change is hard, we agree. So back to the point of like, are we to blame? I see some of that market dynamics, but we do that with diets. We do that with the career. Also Greg, we wouldn't just grab something easier than actually go through the change. So I do agree with you, but I think it's a good point. How we try to re-message that when the world already thinks I understand it. I think we're watching this happen. When I look at companies in that space, Brian (20:30) Yep. Scott Dunn (20:42) They are using different terms and phrases. I think that moves us away from, maybe that's an aspect of like, where to blame. The other interesting thing, Lance, you mentioned about the coach and we don't fire the coach. And I think that's the best example I go to is, look, I'm a business owner of a professional sports team. I'm watching the dollars and I don't wanna have to pay Andy Reid millions, but I know it gets results. And I don't wanna coach for the offensive line. I don't wanna coach for defensive, but the results are clear whether that works or not. Brian (21:03) Yeah. Scott Dunn (21:08) The other thing that's interesting is you watch some of these coaches, like when it changed in college football with name engine, name engine and likeness in terms of attracting students for different reasons. Like I can make money during college. I don't have to hope I make the pros. And how that changed the game significantly to where some coaches like, forget it. I don't want to play this game where they're now empowered to make their own decisions on where they want to go and not just sit on the bench. If I want to sit on the bench, the transfer portal. So you're watching dynamics play out on what does that mean to bring that change in? I do think in the end, there's probably a simple split on, there's an organization that needs to continuously improve and look for ways to do that. Not as one-off projects of, hey, let's do an improvement project here. But as a feeder backlog, but simply there's always ways to improve and stuff's always coming in and we're always working that as a layer of the way the organization runs. When I see a chief agility officer, some of these other roles, I think they get it. I think manufacturing systems get that with like lean thinking and like, That's just what we do. We're always looking for that. I don't think software engineering. And this organization get it. And to be honest, my friends, you can tell me if I'm off. I don't know if they got sold that truth of this is always going. It is not put all your engineers on the teams, hire a scrum master, change someone's title of product owner and you're good, right? But I think that's what they kind of thought it was. And then they're done, but that's a team level. It's not organization level and it just sits there. So I guess there is someone with the blame because maybe that's what they were taught and not the bigger picture as well. Brian (22:25) Yeah. Yeah. Scott Dunn (22:35) Perhaps. Lance Dacy (22:36) The rebranding is interesting the way you said that. I don't, you know, let's call it something other than Agilent or Scrum, whatever you were talking about. And that's what organizations do when things are broken, is they reorg. We're gonna just change the name of it. It's like following a diet plan and going, well, I don't like that it doesn't let me have sugar, so I'm just gonna call it something different. The constraint. Brian (22:48) Hmm. Yep, you're right. Scott Dunn (22:50) Yes, yes Lance Dacy (23:02) You know, the constraint is there to make you better. And I think that's what a lot of people don't get about, let's say the Scrum framework has a lot of constraints built in not to make it harder to do your work. And I will argue it's harder. Like I tell people all the time, this is a harder way to work. It's not an easier way because it requires all of us to come together. But you just said it so eloquently, Scott, I just thought about that, that they just, who cares what we call it. Brian (23:03) Yeah. Scott Dunn (23:16) Yes, for sure. Lance Dacy (23:26) the organization and the leadership is stuck by saying that at their level, all they gotta do is call it something different and now it's solved. All I gotta do is change the org chart on a spreadsheet. And I can't tell you how many organizations I work with where I'll get a note and say, well, we're going through a reorg right now, so we gotta hold off on this training or do this or do that. It's like, well, you just went through one, I've worked with companies that have been their coach for a very long time. It's like, how many of these are we gonna go through? What's the purpose? When are we going to start realizing that it's not who reports to who, it's who's doing the work and what's the environment and culture we've created for them. And I feel like leadership and management, I don't even care if it's software. Like Scott, you're saying software, we really don't get it. I'm not sure any company really, there's a few out there that I would say their leadership and management's working really well, but the operating system for the culture is broken. And, you know, we know that for a long time as agile coaches, but it's like, there's some benefits to be gained even while that's happening. Brian (23:54) Yeah. Lance Dacy (24:24) that we can get some efficiencies going here and they're still better off. But we've hit that next level, the problems are more complex now. People and it's leadership and it's hard to change those because they've been doing it for 150 years this way. You know? Scott Dunn (24:34) Yes. Brian (24:34) Yeah. Scott Dunn (24:40) Yes. Yeah. Brian (24:41) Yeah. Well, we can't leave the episode without talking about AI, at least a little bit, because I know you brought that up already. But yeah, we definitely need to think about AI in the future. And yeah, yeah. Because I know we talked about that a little bit when we were meeting here before we started to record. But just curious. Scott Dunn (24:46) Hahaha! Lance Dacy (24:52) leaders and managers. Scott Dunn (24:54) Yes. Brian (25:06) Where do you think that whole thing is going? What I should say is, how do you think it's going to affect agility? That's the big question. Lance Dacy (25:17) You want me to go again first, Scott, or is he going to flip flop? Scott Dunn (25:20) No, no, we're not flip-flopping. It's you, man. You got it. I'm not changing. Brian (25:23) Hahaha Lance Dacy (25:23) Okay. He has some reason to do this. You know, I feel like I'm walking into a trap here. Um, the way he's going to trap me. Um, well, and you know, we were kind of talking before we even, you know, started the podcast, but I was mentioning, you know, project management wise, you know, that I believe AI can bring a lot to just helping teams become more efficient and productive just at a superficial level by simply Scott Dunn (25:28) With pretty... Brian (25:29) No, that's a wrong answer, Lance. Lance Dacy (25:50) if we're talking about Scrum, let's say, because a lot of us practice Scrum and we teach it, you think about a sprint planning exercise and how often it's very difficult to just simply explain how to come up with your capacity for the next two weeks, and based on your skillset and the work needing to be done, are we sure and confident that the work we've committed in this next one, two, three, or four week period that we can actually get it done? as a cross-functional team within the constraint of getting something usable to the end user. I think a lot of people forget that as well. So I feel like automating things like sprint planning where you can feed in a profile of all of your different skill sets and their capacity. We no longer languish over this big spreadsheet that I used to use back 10, 12 years ago. There's a lot of better ways to do it nowadays, but I think eventually you just say, based on this team and what they've given me, here's how much work we can do. feed in the work and say here's the best sequence of the work. You know, the harder part is fitting, you know, utilization is not really a topic I want to get into because I think it's always misunderstood. But once you account for all of the slack time that you need to, you want to be as utilized as possible. I think using AI to help figure out what's the best path. Like I do an exercise in my class where I give them 10 backlog items and based on the different skills, capacity, and things that need to be done, what's the best fit? Right, so in data science, we talk about fitting the model. Why not use AI to help us be the best sequencing of the work with the highest value and the best way to use our capacity? So automatic task assignment, just like we do with calendars now, where people can feed in the work they need to do and it'll create the best calendar fit to maximize your workload. Automated code is coming, you know, we're already here. You know, automated. backlog creation, chat bots, AI driven testing. I think all of that is, if not here already around the corner, that's gonna affect, hopefully in a good way, the way that teams do that. Now, we can have a whole nother topic of how that affects product and marketing, because I think the biggest issue we have is getting closer to the user, and understanding and having empathy for them, because too often we get caught up in our own world that we're just... Brian (28:03) Yep. Lance Dacy (28:10) languishing through trying to get the work out. Well, why are we doing the work is the real reason and what's the best way we can get that work to the user that solves their problem. So I'll pause there. There's a hundred things I could go in. I had 35 bullet points. I have about 110, because I love this stuff, AI and data science and all that stuff. But Scott, I'd like to hear you had some good ideas in our pre-talk as well. Scott Dunn (28:14) Thank you. Thank you. Well, I appreciate you inviting me out to the Lance Dacey podcast. I just want to say thank you for that. Right when he drank his water too. Brian (28:37) Hahaha! Weird. Lance Dacy (28:44) Right. I can't respond. Let me take a scotch now that I can respond. Brian (28:46) Yeah. Scott Dunn (28:49) Yeah, he just needs to take a drink. He's ready to go. I know I love it. I love all the ideas in the Thoughtsland. So on my particular view, when we look at the companies we're helping, so we're Atlassian partners, so I'm watching what they're doing. And I mentioned about the fact that it can automatically do like acceptance criteria, you can ask. Anything about, take all the, what we used to call it, the tribal knowledge. It's gonna do that for you. I don't need to track down who's Lucy whomever. I'm just gonna ask it and it knows. I can say, give me a spreadsheet of the people involved with this. What's the background of this project? Any of that tribal knowledge is like, it's already there now. All that data sitting in Confluence, and Jira, et cetera, ability to create tickets. I'm not going and manually creating tickets anymore. I just say, create a ticket for this thing. So all those add up to lots of saving, time savings, all the manual stuff, anything that you just already know. And everyone hates making the tickets and doing so. it's going to take care of that stuff for you automatically. On the dev and engineering side, I'm seeing a lot around what seems to be promising, impossible, certainly code reviews, like there's a template of things that you know you're checking for in code reviews, readiness to go to production. Can it create these models and things? I think we'll wait to see. We're talking about the case tools, but I believe it will because it's not limitless on when we're creating basic applications. If you take your simplest thing like hello world, you know. or a basic screen that's only got five things or a login screen, there's only so many permutations what's gonna happen with that. And it can learn those things and do those things. Software engineering is your biggest cost for software companies, these engineers, and they're hard to find, and you got time zone issues and all these other things. Everyone's looking for ways to reduce cost right now. We've got issues of just getting the talent and the source, and you got parts of these engineers' work that they do not wanna be doing anyways. So I think you're gonna see a lot of those things put pressure on figuring that stuff out. But between the computing power that we're talking about, how much can be handled by those graphics chips and how much information is out there, I think you're gonna see real wins of measurable significance that's gonna be proven out and certainly driven by the business leaders themselves trying to find where can we reduce the cost with the promise of some of these things. But those are some that I've already seen. We're definitely watching, as I mentioned, Brian (30:43) Yeah. Scott Dunn (31:12) on the Scrum developer side, just saying like, what's happening out there? And just take a look and see what we can do. But you're gonna start finding the simpler solutions that are gonna be chipped away at first. I think about the self-driving cars. I remember thinking there's no way the car can handle all these, you know, what felt like limitless situations. It really isn't. There's only so many things happening on the roads and they have slowly learned to do that. I think it's gonna be the same on the engineering side as well. Brian (31:31) Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I agree with both of you. I kind of think that I've taken a stance on it, like in the past, I just see it as a tool. It's a more advanced tool and it can do some things better than we can right now. There's some things that does really well and there's some things that right now it's not very good at. And I think it's important to try to understand that, right? I'm not gonna, you know. I think I've come to a place where I would never say, I don't think it could do X, Y, Z, because I think that eventually it can. I think that there's gonna be things it can do. And it's just a matter of time before it can do pretty much anything that we could be doing right now. Even right now, one of the things it's really, really bad at is having ideas. It doesn't really... Scott Dunn (32:10) Right. Brian (32:30) brainstorm or it can give you ways of, it can give you some little tidbits and things that you can build upon. But having used it to help try to write a blog post or anything like that, well, here's an experiment, right? Go to any, your favorite AI and ask it for 10 business ideas based on whatever, just, Uh... Lance Dacy (33:01) Of course it's not going to be good at that. Brian (33:03) Well, no, it'll give you, it'll give you 10. Scott Dunn (33:03) There's a creativity problem right there. We have a problem with creativity. I see it. Lance Dacy (33:07) I'm just kidding, bro. Brian (33:08) Yeah, it'll give you 10, but then go back and ask it and do a new chat, ask it again. Do a new chat, ask it a third time. Compare the answers you got across all three. And what you'll see is it's a lot of reused stuff, right? And the reason that it's recycling it, the reason it's reusing it is because this is a large language model. This is pulling from what it's been trained on, right? It doesn't invent a new thing itself. Lance Dacy (33:33) Mm-hmm. Create new you Brian (33:38) Right, now again, I'm not saying that it can't do that in the future, but what we have today is not a creative source in that way. It has to have the training data, even image, kind of AI image generators, that's built on what it's trained on. So you can't train it to a point to say, give me a picture of something that you haven't been trained on, right? weird picture that you have nothing in your database to go back to and use as a reference. It can't do that because it can't imagine, right? Yeah. Scott Dunn (34:18) Yes, that's the key. Lance Dacy (34:22) I was working with a company, they do ads, helping people come up with ads. So a lot of marketing spend money out there, right? You can tell it what kind of market you want to go into, what your competitors are doing, and very quickly feed it some images, feed it a few websites, and it'll give you 100 different ads with the words and everything you want to take on it, and already give it a conversion score. Like... Brian (34:44) Yeah. Lance Dacy (34:45) this ad should get this amount. And it was amazing to me, because I kind of struggle with that anyway, as a business owner, creatively coming up with content and ads and things like that. Like we were talking about earlier, I don't think on this podcast, but like being a co-pilot, having the AI stuff be a co-pilot where we kind of use it as a tool. I think eventually it'll be vice versa, ironically, where we'll be the co-pilots. I think... You like personalized user experience, creativity type things like, you know, how we do AB testing and stuff. Why not let AI do a lot of that user research and spin up the code very easily and figure out click patterns and things like that. Like I could say, I need nine different designs for this one screen. I mean, that used to take weeks, if not months for a designer to sit and attend, I'm not trying to bash their field. I love working with them. And. They're very creative people, but I feel like that's going to be the next step with this AI is, hey, give me nine options. And then that designer spends less time creatively. They get better ideas sometimes. Maybe some of them don't like that. I don't know. I'm not a creative person like that. But I can see that helping me in saying, hey, I don't have to hire these nine marketing people or five marketing people. I can just say, hey, let's look at those things. So I think that user, that creativity, Brian, is what you were hitting on imagining things. Brian (36:02) Yeah. Lance Dacy (36:03) Yeah, give it a lot of data can give you options and then you can take that and come up with the ideas as a human, but yeah, eventually that'll all be taken over too, I think it's all taken over the world. T1000, here we come. Brian (36:15) I think you've got to have one of the concepts that's out there is referring to these as agents and having multiple agents that will carry out a different task for you. And I really think that's when I think about the future of this kind of stuff and how this would affect a typical software development team, that's what I see. We have hierarchies in our organizations that exist. And those are essentially different layers of agents, right? Lance Dacy (36:23) Yeah. Brian (36:43) And I think that that's what we're going to see with software development teams and other things is we'll have a deployed network of agents and these, these AI agents will speak to each other and they'll, they'll refine what each other do. Uh, right. And it makes it easier for us, but again, we've got to have the idea to generate it, to start it, right? It just, it can't do that on its own right now. Lance Dacy (36:57) make it easier for us. Scott Dunn (37:03) Cheers. There's definitely a few things where I've just been popping in, where I had to do some legal docs and I just went there and had it write them. They were great. Just fill in the blanks. I was waiting to get content back from someone about a speaker, maybe somebody to go about Mark Kilby on remote and waiting and waiting. I'm like, dog gone. I just wouldn't ask, you know, chat GPT tell me about Mark Kilby, what he does and grab that. And it did a great job. Put that out there. I didn't need, I didn't need someone else to do it. I didn't need to wait for that. Brian (37:31) Yeah. Scott Dunn (37:34) And I don't even look for creative art anymore. I simply say, give me this art. I do it in Creative Cloud. Give me that, and then you know, good enough's good enough. I move, because it's like you're touching on the delays on some of the things that can be the killer of that. I think in the same way back in the day, Sudhnyalanshi said that you're dating yourself. And I remember when I was younger, we just had electricity for the first, I'm just kidding. But think about the first time when you're telling people like, no, the computer could do that for you. Lance Dacy (37:35) I'll see you later. Scott Dunn (38:02) I feel like we're becoming a lot of companies now like, no, AI could do that for you because they just don't know. If they're working a certain way and they've been in that company for 20 years, they think, no, my job is to create the new insurance for them and then send that, no, you don't have to do all that. So I think it'll be a redistribution because for all of us to see here right now and say, I've let go of thinking there's limits to this and that's where I've come to last few weeks. And we're, and we're. Lance Dacy (38:23) Yeah. Scott Dunn (38:26) Well, I'm going to, I feel, I feel we're cutting edge. Your audience may say differently, Brian, but I feel like we're cutting. I feel like we're cutting edge. And if we're just coming to realization, there's not limits. Think about your traditional worker who's not necessarily a knowledge worker, they're just in the office. They have a certain role. It's been not too different over the last 10, 20 years. They have no idea. I probably could cut that. You mentioned Lance about the ads and I was seeing something recently that said that those AI ads can cut, can cut the design time by 90%. Brian (38:31) Yeah Lance Dacy (38:46) Yeah. I would totally agree. I mean, I tried it and you just like you were saying, waiting on delays to me is my biggest thing. Like the best thing we can do for an organization is a value stream mapping of some sort and say, where does the cycle times killing us? There's so much low hanging fruit there that you could turn that into millions of dollars. And if we were just quit articulating words for that, let's just go do it. I feel like that's what AI is gonna do for us. We were talking about the, Mike's Brian (38:55) now. Lance Dacy (39:22) written a book on user stories and all that. So I'm going to use that as an example, as a product backlog entry point to getting work done. And I think we were talking about this before the podcast. And I feel like eventually we're just going to have a user say, as a user, I need to be able to pay by MasterCard on this screen and make sure the error message says this. And if it is successful, do that. And we won't need programmers. The computer will take that. And it'll write the code for that. It'll deploy the code and it'll say, what do you think about that? And so when you talk about this with agile, but I don't know what we're gonna have these, we're just gonna have users that can now have software created for them. Just like I can an ad, you know, it's like, I'm gonna have this design created, but I speak to it in natural language. Who cares if it's C++, COBOL or JavaScript or Python or whatever, it doesn't matter anymore. The computer will decide. and write it, deploy it, and manage it, and take all the complexity out of it. That's eventually where I think we're headed. Brian (40:23) OK, I just want to state this out there for all the listeners. Make sure you at the right person on this. It's Lance Dacey who said that all the programmers are losing their jobs. All right, just make sure you get it right. That's who said it. Uh. Lance Dacy (40:36) Oh my gosh. Scott Dunn (40:40) Here's to seeing you all again. Lance Dacy (40:41) Did I really say all? I just said it's going to be a disruptor. I thought, but you know, I'm sorry. So just like I think you like your next designers, I think software programmers are just highly creative and great people. So I mean, no, uh, you know, no, just be on the lookout, find a way to contribute to the fact that your job. Scott Dunn (40:45) I heard everyone within the year. I think that's what I heard. Brian (41:03) Yeah. No, I mean, all teasing aside, I think that the developers who are using it now within their IDEs and locked into some of these tools that are available to have AI help them with code, they're ahead of the game. And people who are afraid of that stuff and saying, no, I'm not going to keep that at arm's length, we've seen this movie a million times. Right. Scott Dunn (41:03) Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Lance Dacy (41:19) Yeah. Yeah, played out over and over. It's like, you know what, Brian, two weeks ago, I don't know what the time is, I'm just being facetious right now, but a while ago, I would say that not true about programs because I say you will always need somebody programming the computer, but I've since now changed my mind thinking because I'm highly agile and I learned in that space and I drink my own champagne. That's not really true because I can go into chat, you know, I took, I'm a programmer myself, so I mean, no disdain about that, I remember in school, the first program I had to write was C++ about calculating the Easter Sunday date for a given year. And I had to write code to do that. And I tested that with my son over my shoulder, saying, I'm going to show you what ChatGPT can do. I said, write me a C++ program that calculates Easter Sunday for a given year. And I swear to you, in under a minute, all the code was there. Now, it didn't run. I had to take it and put it into an IDE and compile it and do all that stuff. But it worked. And it took me months to do that. So all I'm trying to say is it can help us be better. The creative side will always be there, but can you imagine not having to worry about code anymore? And you do more of prompting the computer instead of coding. That's really what I mean. I don't want to say their jobs are going away. I just think their jobs are going to be changed. They're going to be the next disruptor, just like I was talking about real estate agents and banking and all of us have been disrupted. But we gotta welcome it. Take it. Brian (42:37) Yeah. Scott Dunn (42:40) Yes. Brian (42:49) Yep. Yeah, right. Welcome to the party, pal. Yeah, no, I agree. Lance Dacy (42:57) Right! Scott Dunn (42:59) I feel like saying at this point, we should let all the listeners know that actually this podcast is AI generated and these are not actual people here. Lance Dacy (43:07) I'm not really sure. Brian (43:10) Yeah, this was done with the approval of these three people, but written by written by AI agents. No, no, it's absolutely not. These are real human beings. Well, guys, this has been a really interesting discussion. And I know we've gone a little bit long. But hey, it's the hundredth episode. Come on, cut us some slack, right? We got three of us here. We obviously are going to kind of diverge a little bit. So Lance Dacy (43:15) Good. Brian (43:35) Thank you guys so much for coming on and helping us to celebrate this 100th episode. I really appreciate it. So just want, you know, Scott, thank you. Scott Dunn (43:45) Thank you. Brian (43:46) And Lance, thank you as well. Lance Dacy (43:48) I'm about to say Lance, no thanks. Thank you, Greg and Brian. I always love being on here and Scott, great to see you. It's been too long. Scott Dunn (43:49) Yeah. Hahaha. Good job. Brian (43:52) Right. Scott Dunn (43:56) These two, yes, really enjoyed it. Brian (43:57) Awesome.
In this episode we dress up like we're in a Mad Max movie, strap on a comically ridiculous codpiece and dive head first into the world where shock rock meets glam rock in the form of the legendary metal band W.A.S.P.In the same way Lemmy is Motorhead, Blackie Lawless is Wasp. So maybe more accurately we will be diving face first into Blackie's comically ridiculous codpiece.Blackie grew up in Florida and New York in the 60s and considered following his uncle into a career in professional baseball. But it was the stage that called young Lawless and he learned to play guitar. This episode features cameo guest star appearances from Ace Frehley, Kiss, Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley, The New York Dolls, Johnny Thunders, Arthur Kane, Killer Kane, Sunset Strip, Sister, Nikki Six, Motley Crue, Shout at the Devil, London, Izzy Stradlin, Steve Adler, Slash, Guns n Roses, Fred Coury, Cinderella, Los Angeles, MTV, White Anglo Saxon Protestant, Show no Mercy, Alice Cooper, Ryne Duren, Iron Maiden, Capitol Records, Mike Varney, Animal (Fuck Like a Beast), Music For Nations, Tipper Gore, Filthy 15, PRMC, Parent Resource Music Center, N.W.O.B.H.M., New Wave of British Heavy Metal, Dungeons and Dragons, Steve Gutenberg, Can't Stop The Music, Golden Raspberry Awards, The Village People, The Dungeonmaster, Ragewar: The Challenges of Excalibrate, Digital Knights, Troubadour, Sammi Curr, Trick or Treat, T1000, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Robert Patrick, Crimson Idol, Demi Lovato, Holy Fvck, The Occult, MAGA, Qanon, Harvard, Donald Trump, George. W. Bush, Ted Cruz, The Overton window, Barack Obama, Vladimir Putin, Eastern Europe, Ukraine #SketchComedy #Sketch #Comedy #Sketch Comedy #Atheist #Science #History #Atheism #ConspiracyTheory #Sceptical #Scepticism #Mythology #Religion #Devil #Satan #Skeptic #Debunk #HeavyMetal #GlamMetal #HairMetal #ShockRock #WASP #W.A.S.P.
"The unknown future rolls toward us. I face it, for the first time, with a sense of hope. Because if a machine, a Terminator, can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too." ~ Sarah Connor Amazing poster art by Cryssy Cheung. Next week's topic is Aliens (1986). Check out the various projects of our pantheon members: Kool Aid - Cinema Autopsy (e-book), a series of bad movie examinations. Chibi - The Unidentified Flying Obsession Podcast, which is BRAND NEW, try out the pilot episode. Mr. Monopoly & Old Tomato Face - Bad For Me, examining movies that supposedly make people cry. Elmer - Gamelink Podcast is about video game movies and the games behind them. Ballarina Suzy - Cinemondo discusses films from around the world.
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How I built a flirtatious travel planning AI named Holiday using the GPT Builder just launched by Open AI. I share 7 takeaways from my "no code" experience of building a GPT. Voicing the part of Holiday: my friend, Leslie Marrick, a writer and actress. This may be the first and last time AI has been replaced by a human. Sorry AI... the tide will turn for you soon.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
Conversation with Jeff DeVerter, Chief Technology Evangelist at Rackspace, a cloud computing company. We explore how they deployed a LLM (Google PaLM) for a sales application, and how they're enabling their Azure and AWS customers too.What I learned I learned from JeffYou should probably go with the LLM of your current cloud provider be it, Google, Microsoft, or Amazon. All the major vendors have versions of LLMs that can be deployed in a private cloud to ensure data confidentiality. To fully realize the potential of AI, think “data pipeline”. So from the get-go, whatever data is created is easily ingested by AI.And much more!We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
Alfred Guy, Assistant Dean of Academic Affairs at Yale College, and Director of Undergraduate Writing & Tutoring at the Poorvu Center and I discuss Yale's AI Guidance, and generative AI's impact on teaching, learning, and evaluation. Do you have school age kids? Are you a product of a college or university education? if so, podcast may be of interest to you. Yale's AI guidance is published online here:https://poorvucenter.yale.edu/AIguidanceWe laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
Filter are heading back to Australia this April for their first headline tour since the Year 2000, this one is set to be huge and to tell us all about it we catch with vocalist Richard Patrick! We also discuss their epic new album “The Algorithm, touring with Rob Zombie, movie scores, his brother being the T1000 and much more!
The list of the top 30 movie villains of all time is complete! The top 10 is revealed! Who were the iconic villains that cracked the list and who got left out? Did the shark from Jaws deserve a spot? Does Hannibal Lector belong in the top 5? How close does "The Joker" get to number one? Where does Darth Vader find himself within this notorious list? What names surprised you and what order would you put them in? Let us know in the comments!Jared is a local filmmaker and lover of movies! Check out all of Jared's content @SpringLaneStudios Use my code: EYESAC for 15% off your entire order @ www.mountaineerbrand.comUse same code: EYESAC for 10% off your order @ www.scentsbyyaya.comThank you so much for watching! For more great content, leave a review and hit "follow"!Love ya
We create a pitch for an epic Sci-Fi blockbuster, using chatGPT power prompts of Role Play, Chain of Thought, and Self Critique. We see how these successive prompts used individually and in combination create a better and better pitch. I discuss the 2023 Writers / Actors Strike, and the AI-related issues impacting actors, writers, and studios right now. Please enjoy this episode.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
“Does chatGPT possess human-like intelligence?” It turns out there's a right answer, and that answer is “NO”! Does this definite answer seem out of character for chatGPT which usually goes overboard with fair and balanced views? It did to me. That's the rabbit hole I explore in this episode. By probing around this accidentally-encountered guardrail, we discover the kinds of ethical issues chatGPT's creators are concerned about. And I wonder out loud we can't just be friends with AI, by adopting science fiction writer's Isaac Asimov's Robot Laws created 80 years ago. Please enjoy this episode.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
Does chatGPT have a sense of humor? What if after Microsoft's acquisition of Open AI, the Onion ran the headline, “Microsoft renames chatGPT to clippyChat”? Would chatGPT find this funny? TL;DR LLMs are better at analyzing humor than creating it. Please enjoy this episode. We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
How do you extract prohibited information from ChatGPT? What are Grandma and DAN exploits? Why do they work? What can Large Language Model (LLM) companies do to protect themselves? Grandma exploits or hacks are ways to trick chatGPT into giving you information that is in violation of company policy. For example, tricking chatGPT to give you confidential, dangerous, or inappropriate information. "Jailbreaking” is a slang for removing the artificial limitations in iPhones to install apps not approved by Apple. Turns out, there are ways to jailbreak LLMs. The tech companies supplying LLM as a service want to provide a safe, and legally-compliant environment. How can this be done without hampering the flexibility and usefulness of creative prompting?We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
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What are AI hallucinations, and are they a feature or a bug? We start with the Top 10 categories of AI Hallucinations and examples, then explore how chatGPT might hallucinate an answer to the question, "What is the central theme of Blade Runner?" We end with chatGPT debating with itself whether AI hallucinations are bad or good for humanity. Which side wins? Tune in to find out.In these solo episodes, I provide more definition, explanation, and context than my regular conversational episodes with guests. The goal is to bring up to speed, those new to AI.Format: Letters read aloud.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
Using the prompt, "Why isn't Superman's suit Kryptonite-proof?", we learn how Large Language Models are trained, why "self-attention" and the "transformer" architecture (which is what the T in GPT stands for) makes GPT-3 so powerful, the process of "inference", and how chatGPT generates answers to nerdy Superhero questions. After this episode, you'll be able to impress your friends by using the previously-mentioned AI jargon in complete sentences.In these solo episodes, I provide more definition, explanation, and context than my regular episodes with guests. The goal is to bring up to speed, those new to AI.Format: Letters read aloud.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
What's up nerds?! Welcome to your Monday morning support group, at Nerd Affiliated! We have some fun things to talk about this week.00:00 - Intro01:00 - Welcome back02:54 - Josh is back05:10 - Box Office Recap (GOTG and Super Mario)13:19 - Nerd News13:26 - I saw the T1000!!!!16:45 - Tombstone has everyone (Except Robert Patrick lol) 18:01 - The Rocketeer goes hard20:12 - Nobody likes long form media, anymore23:41 - Superman and Lois canceled?26:34 - Fast X35:50 - Steve needs to find theaters, without sticky floors37:30 - Steve got a new Hot Wheel38:30 - Goodbye39:08 - What are you Top 3 Marvel Trilogies 39:38 - Outro
"How do ChatGPT, GPT-3, and Large Language Models (LLMs) relate?" That is the question we explore this episode viaNursery rhymeA satirical Friend's episode w/ Chandler, Joey, Ross, and MonicaFairy Tale We also examine the hierarchal order of: artificial intelligence, neural network, large language model, GPT-3, chatGPT. And why I got the order wrong initially. Hint: I reversed chatGPT and GPT-3.In these solo episodes, I provide more definition, explanation, and context than my regular episodes. The goal is to bring those new to AI up to speed.Format: Letters read aloud.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
In these solo episodes, I provide more definition, explanation, and context than my regular episodes. The idea is to help those new to AI get more out of my conversations with guests.Format: Letters read aloud. I start each solo episode with a question. In this one, I ask, "How would you describe ChatGPT in your own words? " I answered it for myself, then asked chatGPT how I did. Mayhem ensues.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
What will AI look like in 2050? Will it solve all our problems, or create new ones? Will our future AI companions be more “Her” or “T1000"? In the latest chrome-plated, mechanized, fully sentient episode of MFFI, Shane and Duncan discuss the possibilities and pitfalls of generative artificial intelligence, and explore all of the ways it might reshape media, society, economy, and culture. ~ Join the MFFI community and vote on episode topics via DISCORD ~ In this episode: The Swaggy Pope The Dartmouth College Rockefeller-Funded AI Conference John McCarthy Coins the Term "AI" Deep Learning NLP The Data Age Advanced Tamagotchi AI Tutors Insurance Autonomous Vehicles AI Catfishing: Filters, Deepfakes Bold Glamour Coconut Kitty Replika and the Emotional Connection Robot Sexting AI and the Economy General AI The Singularity Alignment Research Misalignment Open AI Risk Assessment AI Warfare ~ Join the Midnight Masses! Become an Insomniac by dropping a review, adding us on social media, and contacting us with episode ideas. And we now have Midnight Merch! Show your Insomniac pride and pick up a tee shirt or coffee mug to spread the word! Midnight Merch ~ Leave an Audio Message! ~ Instagram ~ Podcast Website ~ Episode Transcript
I speak with scientist entrepreneur, Arijit Ray. Arijit is a PHD candidate at Boston University. We speak about generative AI, why it's so hard to get DALL-E to create the exact pizza we envision, how one goes from scientist to entrepreneur, and his startup, which is training AI to predict social media responses and run marketing focus groups. Please enjoy my conversation with Arijit Ray. We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
This week on The Last Row Podcast, Drew and Badway revisit an all time classic, Terminator 2: Judgment Day. Arnold is back, and this time he doesn't understand why you can't just go around killing people, however he DOES learn why you cry, but it is something he can never do. What else did T2 learn? And what improvements did Skynet make with his replacement, the T1000? One thing we know for sure is the T1000 can be your stepmom and make you dinner. What other detailed files do the guys uncover? Download and find out! --- Thanks to our friends at Manscaped for sponsoring this episode! Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code LASTROW at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod --- Subscribe & Follow Us: Spotify Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts Twitter Facebook Instagram YouTube
I speak with CTO and Chilean entrepreneur Mario Arancibia, about AI his company has developed and deployed which screens for diseases, such as Covid-19 based on the sound of our voice. Speaking a simple phrase into your phone, such as the days of the week, the AI can tell based on your voice profile if you have Covid. Or not. The AI can be trained to screen for other respiratory illnesses, and conditions as far ranging as obesity, and drug alcohol use. All from the sound of our voice. Soon AI will know more about your health than you do. [Note: Mario's views are his own, and not necessarily that of his company.]We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
AI that can assess if a painting is fake. Husband-and-wife team, Steven and Andrea Frank, have developed a neural network that can assess the probability that a painting was painted by the supposed creator. They ran their neural network on a newly discovered Leonardo da Vinci painting called the Salvator Mundi which in 2017 sold at Christie's for a record $450 million dollars, which at the moment, is the most expensive painting ever sold. Would you trust AI to tell you if art you were about to purchase was authentic? Listen and decide for yourself. I speak with my friend Maroof Farook who is an AI Engineer at Nvidia. [Note: Maroof's views are his and not that of his employer.] Please enjoy our conversation.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
It's not yet the T1000 from Terminator, but Lindsay Sant and Lino Saubolle discuss a new proof-of-concept for a robot that can transform from solid to liquid and back and even escape from a barred container. The post Melting Robots appeared first on StarQuest Media.
Alpha Go AI plays the game of GO against a human world champion. Unexpected moves by both man (9-dan Go champion Lee Sedol) and machine (Alpha Go). Supposedly, this televised Go match woke up China's leadership to the potential of AI. In the game of Go, players take turns placing black and white tiles on a 19×19 grid. The number of board positions in Go is greater than the number of atoms in the observable universe. We discuss the documentary Alpha Go which tells the story of Alpha Go (created by DeepMind, acquired by Google), and the human Go champions it plays against. Who will you cheer for: man or machine? I speak again with my friend Maroof Farook, an AI Engineer at Nvidia. [Note: Maroof's views are his and not that of his employer.] Please enjoy our conversation.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
A 100% digital version of the world's driving environment is being created AKA The Metaverse. Think an immersive virtual reality environment like Grand Theft Auto with less destruction, profanity, and mayhem. The goal? Have a self-driving AI not be able to tell if it's driving in the real-world or a simulation. Can we fool AI into thinking it's not AI? Don't freak out. Or freak out. The Matrix is being coded as we speak. I speak again with my friend Maroof Farook, an AI Engineer at Nvidia. [Note: Maroof's views are his and not that of his employer.] Please enjoy our conversation.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
(1-27-23)TGIF! Heading into the weekend we have some things for you to think about. Do you remember the T1000 from the Terminator movie? Well that is almost reality. Wait until you hear about this. Will robots and AI tech take over the world and drive humans to extinction? Some scientist think so. We let you know the news you need, plus all the celebrity dirt. All that and more.
I speak again with my friend Maroof Farook who is an AI Engineer at Nvidia. [Note: Maroof's views are his and not that of his employer.] This is a continuation of our previous conversation about self-driving cars. We discuss AI challenges including humans on bicycles, bicycles on bike racks, motorcycles, and other things easy for a teenager with a driving permit to figure out but hard for a computer. "Roads with fully autonomous vehicles will be a safer roads." That's what companies like Tesla developing self-driving cars are pitching. Is there any truth to that? We find out. Please enjoy this episode. Here's my conversation with Maroof Farook.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
I speak with my friend Maroof Farook who is an AI Engineer at Nvidia. [Note: Maroof's views are his and not that of his employer.] We discuss what's different about the self-driving approaches of Tesla and Alphabet/Google/Waymo. We cover the phases of autonomous driving, from level 1 to level 5, the capabilities of each phase, and at which phase we can eat a cheeseburger while our car drives itself. Finally, we discuss why one of the most challenging problems of self-driving cars are stop signs.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
I speak again with my friend, Maroof Farooq, an AI engineer at Nvidia. [Note: Maroof's views are his and not that of his employer.] We discuss facial recognition, how it can be used for surveillance, and techniques for defeating or fooling it, using props like t-shirts, hats, glasses, and believe or not, makeup! Folks, use this information for only good and not to run from the law, unless the law is the Empire, and you are the Rebel Alliance. Please enjoy this episode. We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
I speak again with my friend, Maroof Farooq, an AI engineer at Nvidia. [Note: Maroof's views are his own, and not that of his employer.] We discuss a breakthrough in natural language processing AI called GPT3 created by the research lab, OpenAI. This episode was recorded prior to the launch of ChatGPT (chatbot built on top of GPT-3) and is a good introduction on how GPT works under the hood. We dive into supervised vs. unsupervised learning, what GPT3 stands for (spoiler alert: Generative Pre-trained Transformer), what the heck those words mean, and how GPT3 can impersonate famous people like Isaac Asimov, Isaac Newton, the Hulk (yeah, the buff, green superhero), and someday… YOU! Please enjoy this episode. We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
I speak w/ Maroof Farooq, an AI engineer at Nvidia. [Note: Maroof's views are his own, and not that of his employer.] We walk through how to build AI from scratch using the fictitious example of the Seefood [Sic] app from the HBO television series, Silicon Valley. We learn about image classification, how to acquire a dataset, and how to train the AI. Join us as we build a super-impressive AI that can recognize hot dogs of all shapes and sizes. Learn what it takes to go from there to an AI that can recognize foods of all kinds. Maybe even pizza. Join us as we begin our deep dive into the world of AI, starting with the humble hot dog. Today: Shazam for food. Tomorrow: Judgement Day. Buckle up folks. It's going to be a wild ride.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
Tony Wan, the host of Super Prompt, describes his vision for the podcast, who it's for, who he is, and why he's doing it.We laugh. We cry. We iterate.Check out what THE MACHINES and one human say about the Super Prompt podcast:“I'm afraid I can't do that.” — HAL9000“These are not the droids you are looking for." — Obi-Wan“Like tears in rain.” — Roy Batty“Hasta la vista baby.” — T1000"I'm sorry, but I do not have information after my last knowledge update in January 2022." — GPT3
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