Tearsheet Podcast: The Business of Finance

As General Manager of PayPal's Small Business and Financial Services Group, Michelle Gill is responsible for bringing together the products and services that help small business owners run and grow their business. She is my guest for this episode of the Tearsheet Podcast. Michelle brings deep financial expertise and experience building platforms and tools that help customers manage their finances to her role on PayPal's Senior Leadership Team. Michelle was previously Senior Vice President of Intuit's business money management, payment, and banking service, QuickBooks Money Platform. Prior to Intuit, Michelle successfully integrated and expanded SoFi's lending business as General Manager and Executive Vice President of Consumer Lending and Capital Markets. Drawing on her early career experience as a Managing Director and Partner at Goldman Sachs, Michelle also served as SoFi's Chief Financial Officer before moving into the product leadership role. Before that, Michelle spent a decade leading the U.S. Assets business for global investment firm Sixth Street Partners. Given her career and experiences, Michelle brings a broad view of fintech innovation. She focuses on user-centered solutions. At PayPal, she leads efforts to help entrepreneurs navigate the complicated web of financial tools they often depend on. “The preponderance of [small businesses] use greater than 15 tools to run their business,” she shares. “What they got into business for is the passion… and yet they end up spending more time on things that are not what they love.” Our conversation explores how PayPal is actively trying to reduce that complexity. It does so not by offering more tools, but by making the ones they already use work better together. Gill outlines the strategy behind PayPal's cash flow-based lending model and how it fits within their open ecosystem, whether it's digital lending, embedded finance, or leveraging open banking.

Investment in data is the hallmark of successful Gen AI implementations, according to Citizens' Chief Data and Analytics Officer, Krish Swamy. Giving us a system wide view of how Citizens is leveraging Gen AI, Swamy joins the podcast to talk about harnessing the power of data to drive decision-making, enhance customer experiences, and navigate the complexities of digital transformation in the banking sector. Our conversation delves into the challenges and opportunities of building a data-driven culture within a traditional banking environment, and how Citizens is positioning itself at the forefront of financial innovation through strategic analytics initiatives. Swamy, who also heads the firm's Generative AI Council, shares his vision for the future of data in banking and the tangible ways Citizens is turning data insights into meaningful actions that benefit both the institution and its customers.

In today's financial landscape, innovation is more than just a buzzword—it's a driving force separating industry leaders from those left behind. Finding, nurturing, and scaling the right technologies has become a specialized skill set all its own. Joining us today is Ryan Falvey, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Restive. Ryan has spent the last 15 years at the forefront of identifying and championing market-changing innovations in financial technology. His track record speaks for itself—since 2015, he's invested in 40 early-stage fintech firms that have collectively grown to represent approximately $3 billion in aggregate equity value. Before founding Restive, Ryan led the development of the Financial Solutions Lab, a groundbreaking partnership between JPMorgan Chase and the Financial Health Network. His experience also includes developing payment solutions with leading tech companies at Silicon Valley Bank and serving as Strategy Group Lead at Enclude Solutions, where he oversaw global strategy consulting for mobile-enabled financial products. “We're not investing in fintech apps — we're investing in infrastructure,” Falvey explains early on. That distinction underscores a larger trend he sees in the market: a move away from flashy consumer-based apps toward foundational financial APIs. It also focuses on backend tooling and embedded finance capabilities. Falvey's insights aren't theoretical — they're rooted in his day-to-day decisions as an investor. At Restive, he's helping startups through early product development. He emphasizes practical scalability and regulation-ready business models. “You don't build a consumer business by launching an app anymore,” he says. “It's not about the app — it's about access, context, and integration.” From fintech regulation to platform economics, Falvey shares grounded wisdom. He focuses on how successful startups are navigating today's uncertain investment landscape. What's emerging is a more nuanced strategy for funding — one that prioritizes durability over disruption.

In a world where financial inclusion remains one of our generation's greatest challenges, emerging markets are becoming the true laboratories of fintech innovation. While developed economies iterate on convenience, companies operating in regions with limited banking infrastructure are fundamentally reimagining what financial services can look like from the ground up. Today, we're diving into this fascinating intersection of opportunity and impact with David Lask from Tala. Tala has built a reputation as a pioneer in financial inclusion, providing access to credit and financial services to underbanked populations across multiple continents. David joins us fresh from the Fintech Americas Miami conference to share his insights on the rapidly evolving Latin American fintech landscape. We'll explore how the unique challenges and opportunities in this region are fostering innovative approaches to financial services, with a special focus on Mexico as a compelling case study of fintech evolution.

Artificial intelligence is rapidly transforming the financial landscape, creating new opportunities for innovation while reshaping consumer expectations around speed, personalization, and security. As financial institutions and businesses race to integrate AI capabilities, we're witnessing a fundamental shift in how payments are processed, how fraud is detected, and how financial services are delivered. Today, I'm delighted to welcome Davi Strazza, President of North America at Adyen, a global financial technology platform that's at the forefront of this AI evolution. Davi leads Adyen's North American operations, where the company is leveraging artificial intelligence as a strategic growth driver through initiatives like their recently launched Uplift platform. In our conversation today, we'll explore how Adyen is implementing AI solutions to enable hyper-personalization, enhance fraud detection, and automate complex financial processes. Davi will also share his insights on the state of real-time payments in the US and what companies need to do to make instant payments a more fundamental part of our commerce and financial system.

Joe Heck, CEO of Zip, joins me on the Tearsheet Podcast to discuss the evolution of alternative payment solutions in the US. Zip is a leading Buy Now, Pay Later (BNPL) company. Joe shares lessons from his 20 years of experience in consumer lending and fintech payment solutions. Heck brings insights from his previous leadership roles at Happy Money and TrueStage. Heck's background plays a role in his approach to financial services. Growing up in Flint, Michigan, he understands the challenges of paycheck-to-paycheck living. “There's a consumer base largely ignored by traditional financial systems,” Heck explains. “FICO doesn't serve them well, but they have a great ability to pay.” Zip focuses on providing financial flexibility to these consumers. It offers structured repayment plans that don't push them into revolving debt. According to Heck, “We win when the consumer wins. If they can't pay us back, our model doesn't work either.” The Big Ideas BNPL's Growth Potential in the US – With only 2% of payments currently in BNPL, there is significant room for expansion compared to markets like Europe and Australia. Financial Inclusion for Underserved Consumers – Zip is focusing on consumers who don't fit traditional credit models but have strong repayment potential. “We provide access when and where they need it,” says Heck. Strategic Partnerships Drive Accessibility – Integrations with Stripe and retailers like GameStop are making BNPL more available to consumers. A More Transparent Alternative to Credit Cards – Unlike credit cards that encourage revolving debt, BNPL provides structured, predictable payments. “We're not built in a way that traps consumers in debt,” Heck emphasizes. The Role of Cash Flow Management in BNPL's Future – Zip is investing in tools that help consumers manage unpredictable income streams, ensuring more repayment flexibility.

Fintechs have pushed the industry to focus on client experiences, and our show today digs into how traditional banks can collaborate with global banks like Citi to improve experiences like cross border payments for their clients. In our conversation today, Aashish Mishra, Citi's Global Head for Banks sales and North Asia head for Financial Institutions and Fintech Sales, Treasury & Trade Solutions (TTS), dives into how the bank's 24/7 US dollar clearing business, as well as solutions like Worldlink ® Payment Services, are helping the firm's bank clients deliver modern and intuitive experiences to its customers. Aashish Mishra is part of Citi's Services' business based in Hong Kong, and he performs two roles: he's responsible for TTS sales and strategy for all FI client segments in North America, which spans banks, fintechs, insurance, asset managers, and broker dealers. And for the bank segment globally, his focus is on delivering the entire TTS solution set to his clients, including cash clearing, global payments and receivables, Banking as a Service, liquidity solutions and trade solutions. Prior to this role, he spent extensive time in Citi's Security Services business, including as the Head of Custody Product and Head of Direct Custody and Clearing business for Asia.  Aashish has extensive experience in the financial institution space, and has worked closely with senior clients, regulators, and financial market infrastructure during his career. Today, he brings that insight from multiple arms of the vast Citi footprint to the show to explore how banks can push their products further without burdening their teams with technical lift, as well as where he expects client expectations to go in the future.

In late January, Upbound Group completed its acquisition of Brigit, a leading financial health technology company. This deal brings together Upbound's established brands like Rent-A-Center and Acima with Brigit's digital platform that offers earned wage access, credit building products, and financial wellness tools. The combined company now serves approximately four million active customers, including Brigit's impressive base of over one million paying subscribers. I'm thrilled to welcome Zuben Mathews, co-founder of Brigit, to our podcast today. Zuben continues to lead the Brigit team as they now operate as a business segment within Upbound Group, alongside his co-founder Hamel Kothari. In our conversation today, we'll explore the strategic vision behind this acquisition, how Brigit's technology will enhance Upbound's existing services, and what this means for millions of Americans who have been traditionally underserved by mainstream financial institutions. We'll also discuss how Brigit's proprietary cash flow underwriting technology and machine learning capabilities might change the landscape for accessible financial products.

Banking digital assistants may be common now, but in 2017, Bank of America was one of the first to be thinking about how they make the firm's customer experience more powerful. The answer was an in-house build of a digital assistant that required the firm to hire PhDs in linguistics and build a collaboration structure that could facilitate teams from different departments. In 2024, BofA clients interacted with Erica 676 million times bringing its total interactions since its launch in 2018 to 2.5 billion. On the show today, Hari Gopalkrishnan, who leads Bank of America's Consumer, Business & Wealth Management Technology team, joins us to tell the tale of how the firm built its industry-leading digital assistant, Erica. Hari shares how the firm has gradually expanded Erica's remit beyond consumer banking to also include multiple lines of business and individual and corporate clients across the firm's global footprint. It's a dive into what it takes to push the boundaries in this industry, how the firm thought about development, testing, expansion, and how Erica's capabilities can be expanded with the recent innovations of Gen AI.

Financial inclusion remains one of the most pressing challenges in today's economy. Millions of Americans struggle to access basic financial services simply because they lack a credit history or have damaged credit. This gap in our financial system doesn't just create inconvenience – it perpetuates cycles of financial inequity that can last generations. In my latest episode of Tearsheet, I sat down with Julie Szudarek, CEO of Self Financial, a company working at the forefront of this challenge. Julie took the helm at Self just over a year ago, bringing over 20 years of leadership experience from companies like Groupon and Atida. Though fintech is a new arena for her, Julie's expertise in building customer-focused businesses is exactly what's needed to tackle financial inclusion at scale. “I've never done fintech before,” Julie told me candidly. “But what I bring to the table is a deep understanding of how to build customer-focused businesses that are sustainable over time.” Her mission at Self aligns well with the broader movement toward more accessible financial services: “We are only here to make outcomes for our customers better than before they started working with Self.” The Big Ideas Decoupling Secured Credit Cards for Easier Access. “We decoupled the secured card so customers don't need a credit builder account first. It's about reducing barriers.” The Power of Low Deposit and No Credit Check. “Our deposit is $100, and for many, there's no hard credit check. That makes it much less intimidating for people facing rejection.” Customer Education as a Core Focus. “About 65% of our customers say they had no financial education. So we focus on teaching them about interest, compounding, and managing credit.” Expanding Product Offerings to Keep Customers Engaged. “We were limited in what we offered. Now we're focusing on products that meet customers where they are and help them keep growing financially.” Partnerships to Reach More Communities. “Regions Bank and Pathway Homes are some of our key partners — together, we're helping more people build credit who might otherwise be left out.”

Blockchain technology continues to bridge the gap between traditional finance and the digital asset ecosystem. Today, we're witnessing a fascinating convergence where decentralized finance protocols are being integrated into user-friendly platforms, making sophisticated financial tools accessible to everyday users. One of the most significant developments in this space is the ability to leverage crypto assets without selling them—unlocking liquidity while maintaining exposure to potential appreciation. Coinbase has recently launched a groundbreaking product that allows customers to borrow USDC against their Bitcoin holdings in under a minute, all powered by onchain lending protocols. I'm delighted to welcome Max Branzburg, Vice President of Product at Coinbase, to discuss this innovation. As a key architect of Coinbase's product strategy, Max has been instrumental in developing solutions that make crypto utility more tangible for millions of users. Today, we'll explore how Bitcoin-backed loans represent a pivotal step in Coinbase's vision for onchain financial services, the technical infrastructure making this possible, and what this means for the future of personal finance.

Today we're examining the evolution of asset management and financial advisory services. As technology transforms how we invest and manage wealth, we're exploring the critical balance between innovation and human expertise. We'll discuss how disruption in the advisory space creates new opportunities for clients and advisors alike, why personal relationships remain essential even as AI expands, and how progressive firms are reimagining compensation models. We'll also look at the hybrid approach resonating with next-gen clients who want both self-directed tools and personalized guidance. Joining me to explore these topics are Steven Woods, CEO and Founder of Stirlingshire, and Jim Webb, VP of Investments. Their firm is working to remake the asset management model for both clients and advisors. Today, we'll hear about their non-traditional approach to wealth management, how they're balancing technology with the human touch, and why this matters for both financial professionals and their clients. The Big Ideas: Challenging the Traditional Asset Management Fee Structure: Stirlingshire allows advisors to keep 100% of asset management fees and commissions with zero expenses. This flips the traditional model where firms take substantial cuts from advisor earnings, creating better economics for both clients and advisors. The "Advice on Demand" Innovation: Stirlingshire offers a hybrid model between self-directed investing and full management. Clients can self-direct at zero commission but access professional advisors when needed, with advisors only getting paid when their specific recommendations result in profits. Technology-Enabled Compliance and Remote Work: By embedding compliance directly into their technology systems, Stirlingshire eliminates the need for physical offices and reduces compliance staffing. This automation significantly reduces overhead costs while increasing advisor flexibility. AI as an Efficiency Tool, Not a Replacement: Rather than replacing human advisors, Stirlingshire uses AI to make them more efficient. Their AI tools quickly analyze portfolios and provide market context, saving advisors time without making actual investment decisions. Disrupting the Industry to Drive Broader Change: Stirlingshire aims to force change across the entire financial advisory industry, similar to how Robinhood disrupted commission structures. Their goal is to push other independent firms toward more advisor-friendly compensation models by demonstrating a successful alternative approach.

Today I'm excited to introduce you to 4dFI Capital Partners — or as we call it, 4dFI — a new initiative bringing together the worlds of traditional finance and innovative fintech. In this episode, we're diving into three key themes reshaping global financial services: Hidden Innovations in Emerging Markets As Russell Weiss points out, "There's some incredible innovations happening in emerging markets, and oftentimes investors and executives in the US and Europe are sort of missing it. They're not hearing those stories. They're not getting access to that technology." We'll explore how companies like Nubank are just the beginning of a wave of groundbreaking financial solutions coming from regions outside traditional financial centers. From Fintech to Impact Investment In regions where traditional credit infrastructure is lacking, services like earned wage access aren't just convenient—they're transformative. Josh Liggett explains how these solutions are "where a FinTech turns from a FinTech company to also an impact investment," creating both financial returns and meaningful change in consumers' lives. Building a Value-Add Investment Community Beyond just providing capital, Fortify aims to create a network of experienced professionals who can offer expertise, connections, and insights to emerging market fintechs. This collaborative approach benefits everyone involved—investors gain exposure to new models, startups receive valuable guidance, and ultimately, consumers get better financial products. I'm joined today by my partners Russell Weiss and Josh Liggett, who bring complementary skills in data science, VC deal-making, and fintech expertise to this exciting venture. Whether you're a financial industry veteran looking for new horizons or simply curious about where global fintech is heading, today's conversation offers valuable insights into the future of finance beyond traditional markets. Let's dive in.

Student debt is a major financial challenge, with U.S. borrowers owing over $1.8 trillion in total. This ongoing debt burden affects millions of individuals. Traditional financial institutions are looking for ways to solve this issue. Meanwhile, fintech innovations are providing solutions. These new technologies are helping to address the problem. Michelle Tran is the head of commercial at Summer and founder of NYC Fintech Women. She joins the Tearsheet podcast to discuss how fintech is streamlining student loan repayment. The conversation focuses on the improvements fintech brings to the process, highlighting how fintech is powering a new generation of financial wellness programs. “For many borrowers, navigating student loan repayment is like filing taxes on their own,” Tran explains. “The process is complicated. And a simple mistake can lead to missed opportunities for debt relief.” Tran highlights how fintech platforms like Summer act as a “TurboTax for student loans,” helping borrowers complete complex federal student loan relief applications accurately. There is a growing demand for employer-sponsored loan repayment benefits. Fintech solutions are helping connect employees with the right programs. These solutions play an essential role in meeting that demand. The Big Ideas * Employers Are Becoming Key Players in Student Debt Relief. “Graduates are considering job offers carefully. They are looking for companies that offer student loan repayment assistance. This benefit is becoming a key factor in their decision-making.” * Federal Loan Forgiveness Programs Are Underutilized. “Many borrowers don't realize they qualify for loan forgiveness. Fintech is helping them access these benefits more efficiently.” * Technology Reduces Errors in Loan Applications. “Automation ensures borrowers submit accurate applications, increasing approval rates for federal programs.” * Fintech Solutions Are Expanding Beyond Student Loans. “Managing debt holistically creates a more secure financial future. The debt includes credit cards and retirement savings.” * Personal Finance Education is a Critical Component. “Helping borrowers understand their financial options leads to better decision-making and long-term stability.”

I recently sat down with Geoff Charles, Chief Product Officer at Ramp, to discuss the rapidly evolving landscape of corporate finance technology. Recently promoted to CPO, Geoff has been with Ramp since its early days when the company was just 10 people. His journey from product manager to C-suite exemplifies Ramp's growth trajectory as a company now hiring hundreds of employees annually. The Big Ideas AI as a Financial Co-Pilot: “The average employee doesn't have a degree in finance… our models are more accurate than the average employee,” Charles explains, highlighting how AI can democratize financial expertise. Unified Financial Operations: “Why is it that you see receipts for expenses in one product and accounts payable in another? Makes no sense,” says Charles about the fragmented finance software landscape Ramp aims to consolidate. Selective Automation: Charles emphasizes their approach to automating what makes sense: “Where there's high criticality and where humans are very good at it… we need to be very cautious with where we apply AI.” Financial Data as an Asset: “Because everything happens on Ramp… we know with your location, we know the receipts, we know the actual request,” Charles explains how comprehensive data improves AI accuracy. Self-Disruption as Strategy: “If you don't build the thing that kills you, someone else will,” says Charles on Ramp's proactive approach to reimagining their products in an AI-first world. “We're continuing to really push leaders to build capabilities with their reporting lines,” says Charles. “It's important for us to continue scaling and promoting internally, which is a big part of our culture at Ramp — to find early talent, to mentor them, to grow them, and to give them unlimited growth potential within the company.” Geoff describes the product culture at Ramp as “intense,” with product managers serving as the “pace keepers and pacemakers” of the tech organization. This culture of speed, decision-making, and customer-centricity has helped position Ramp as an innovator in the corporate finance space. The conversation explores how AI is transforming traditional expense management, the strategic importance of owning transaction data, and the opportunities in automating financial workflows.

Choosing the right bank to work with is a skill that fintechs need to develop and nurture. When the right choices are made, fintechs can find themselves working with banks that not only provide a strong compliance and banking layer but also have opportunities for the fintech to plug into the bank's infrastructure and become more than just a client. This evolving landscape is what Citi's Global Head of Fintech Sales, Chafic Haddad, provided insight on when I spoke to him. He dove into the maturity cycle that fintechs go through by starting from offering basic products like accounts and then eventually growing enough to explore capital markets and investment banking. He also described how Citi helps these fintechs spread their wings beyond their local markets. Listen to today's conversation to learn from Haddad's experience about how the bank helps fintechs grow sustainably and eventually spread their wings beyond their local geographies and the way Citi organizes and manages these relationships.

I recently sat down with Dan Snyder, CEO and co-founder of Lower, to discuss the evolving landscape of mortgage lending. Lower was founded in 2014 and has grown into one of the largest venture-backed home lenders in the United States. Dan is driven by a commitment to simplifying the home financing process through technology. “We're not just building a mortgage company,” says Snyder. “We're creating a comprehensive platform. It will make homeownership more accessible, especially for younger buyers.” Fresh off its acquisition of NeatLabs, Lower's new proprietary platform, LowerOS, promises to reduce the cost and complexity of mortgage origination. Snyder bootstrapped his startup and went on to raise Ohio's largest Series A, showcasing resilience and vision. His journey offers valuable lessons in leadership and innovation. It also highlights how to navigate the challenges of a volatile housing market. The conversation explores key topics like the role of venture capital in professionalizing a business, the strategic importance of owning a full tech stack, and the opportunities presented by serving next-generation home buyers. The Big Ideas Venture Capital as a Catalyst for Growth. “Raising money allowed us to professionalize the business and access top talent,” says Snyder. He highlights the impact of Accel's investment. The Strategic Importance of Owning Technology. “We didn't want to rely on third-party software that didn't align with our goals,” Snyder notes. LowerOS is the result of this strategic decision. Challenges in Serving Next-Gen Buyers. “The average income for first-time buyers is over $200,000. We're working to bring that down by improving affordability,” Snyder explains. Adapting to Market Volatility. Snyder highlights that inventory and interest rates are major challenges. But, technology can help reduce costs and improve efficiency. Combining Tech with Human Expertise. “Even with digital tools, a 15-minute conversation can save hours of back-and-forth,” says Snyder. He emphasizes the value of human interaction.

In this episode of the Tearsheet Podcast, I sit down with Frank Chaparro, the host of The Scoop and Director of Special Products at The Block. He has years of experience at the intersection of digital assets and Wall Street. Frank offers a unique perspective on blockchain technology and tokenization, highlighting their early impact on financial markets and projecting out where Web3 may lead for financial services. “When you're managing trillions of dollars, offering new, innovative products isn't just risky. It's a massive operational challenge,” says Chaparro. His insights explain why tokenization, stablecoins, and blockchain technology are growing in popularity. These innovations overcome challenges faced by traditional financial institutions, offering new solutions and efficiencies in the financial sector. Frank explores how stablecoins bridge decentralized finance and traditional systems. For example, he explores the challenges of institutional investment in crypto ETFs. His analysis covers the complexities of this fast-evolving space. The Big Ideas Tokenization could revolutionize industries by making processes more efficient. Frank highlights its application in property transactions. He says, “Tokenizing deeds could bring unprecedented efficiency to a traditionally slow process.” Stablecoins are enabling seamless transactions between traditional and decentralized finance. “It's just so damn easy to send stablecoins compared to alternatives like PayPal,” says Frank. Despite regulatory and operational hurdles, major banks are inching closer to crypto adoption. Frank predicts, “By 2025, we'll see wealth management portals opening up to these assets.” Regulatory clarity remains a double-edged sword. Frank explains, “Banks fear the potential repercussions of engaging with digital assets. Even when there's no explicit rule against it.” Meme coins and NFTs hint at a future where culture and finance intersect. Frank calls it “extracting value out of humor,” a concept that could reshape how we view digital assets.

Banks have a challenging time responding to technological leaps like AI primarily because of their compliance-comes-first approach. Financial institutions must also manage the technological debt of their legacy systems when approaching modernization. On this episode of the Tearsheet Podcast, Temenos Chief Product and Technology Officer, Barb Morgan, offers a refreshing perspective on how financial institutions can embrace technology while maintaining their human touch. Her insights reveal how banks, particularly regional institutions, are balancing innovation with customer service and regulatory compliance. Morgan's approach emphasizes "augmented intelligence" over artificial intelligence, positioning AI as a collaborative tool for these firms. Her view of AI's potential in this industry stems from her deep experience working with regional and large banks at Temenos, as well as her time at firms like FIS and Capital One. The conversation highlights how Temenos is helping banks modernize at their own pace by offering flexible solutions that can be implemented module by module. It also dives into how these firms are measuring their ROI on modernization initiatives, a must-have in this market. Lastly, Barb shares how her firm partners with its banking clients to work on unique ideas.

On this episode of the Tearsheet Podcast, Nigel Vaz, CEO of Publicis Sapient, discusses how AI is fundamentally changing the financial services industry. Nigel shares his deep insights on how financial institutions can navigate this technological disruption, from enabling broader access to wealth management to AI-driven credit models in mortgage lending, and on why some banks are better positioned than others to capitalize on AI's potential.

The Tearsheet podcast often explores the intersection of financial services and technology. What makes this exploration unique is its focus on emerging trends, like the connection of the Web3 technologies of crypto and blockchain with the traditional finance ecosystem. Today, Bam Azizi, the co-founder and CEO of Mesh, joins me on the podcast. Founded in 2020, Mesh is an embedded financial platform designed to simplify crypto transactions by enabling real-time connectivity and asset transfers. Previously, Azizi co-founded the cybersecurity company, No Password. Azizi has a strong background in robotics and software engineering. He is now leading Mesh towards a future focused on tokenized assets.“Everything will be tokenized because it's easier to transfer and build,” says Azizi. He emphasizes the importance of addressing market gaps. Mesh integrates exchanges and enables crypto payments. The Evolution of Crypto & Embedded Finance Embedded finance has emerged as a pivotal market structure in fintech. It allows financial services to be seamlessly integrated into non-financial platforms. Azizi sees Mesh as a connection aggregator, not a data aggregator. This sets it apart from competitors like Plaid. “Plaid is the right solution for traditional assets,” Azizi explains. “We are the right solution for the crypto industry.” Traditional platforms focus on aggregating banking data -- Mesh enables transactional capabilities. This includes transferring assets between exchanges and using crypto for payments. Crypto Payments and Practical Use Cases Mesh's offerings have evolved from enabling cryptocurrency deposits to powering crypto payments. Azizi describes the creation of MeshPay, which is a comprehensive solution that addresses the unique challenges of crypto payments within a commercial setting. “Imagine paying at a coffee shop with crypto through Apple Pay,” says Azizi. This vision stems from a real-world use case where a small business embedded Mesh to accept crypto as a payment method. For regions grappling with hyperinflation, functionality like this offers real practical advantages. Tokenized Assets: The Future of Finance Azizi strongly advocates adopting tokenized assets. He predicts that “everything will be tokenized” in the coming decade. Tokenization can simplify asset transfers, improving accessibility and mirroring the digitization wave of the past two decades. Azizi believes traditional processes are inefficient. He points to asset transfers between brokerage accounts as an example. These processes are often cumbersome. Tokenized systems promise to end these inefficiencies. They pave the way for streamlined financial operations. Challenges and Opportunities with Regulation Discussing regulatory frameworks, Azizi underscores the importance of clarity. “Healthy regulation benefits everyone,” he notes. Azizi emphasizes how clear guidelines could boost cryptocurrency adoption and innovation. Mesh's non-custodial model aligns with the crypto community's ethos of decentralization. It resonates with users who prioritize privacy and control over their assets.

As blockchain technology seeps slowly into the traditional financial services ecosystem, it is offering new opportunities through tokenization and decentralized finance (DeFi). Today's episode of the Tearsheet podcast hosts Paul Brody, EY's Global Blockchain Leader who shares his expertise on these developments. Paul is focusing on the promise of public blockchain and the challenges surrounding privacy. He is also the Chairman of the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance. Brody's unique roles provide a distinctive perspective on blockchain adoption in enterprises. Reflecting on his decade at EY, Brody explains, "One of the things I'm most proud of is how little our strategy has evolved. We've consistently believed in the value proposition of public blockchains." EY's blockchain initiatives center around asset tokenization. It focuses on privacy-focused solutions and enabling enterprises to scale blockchain use effectively. Addressing misconceptions, Brody highlights a critical distinction. He says, "A lot of people don't realize private blockchains have no privacy. They're centralized systems without the benefits of a decentralized ledger." This belief underpins EY's commitment to public blockchains, which he argues are the only viable path for enterprises. The big ideas 1. Tokenization is transforming B2B transactions. “Every transaction comes down to tokenizing money, tokenizing the stuff. And automating the terms via smart contracts,” says Brody. 2. Public blockchains offer a compelling value proposition. “Private blockchains have no privacy,” Brody explains. He emphasizes the importance of decentralized, public systems for scalability and security.   3. Privacy is essential for enterprise adoption. Brody highlights the need for privacy layers. He states, “Enterprises require privacy to share sensitive information securely on public blockchains.” 4. DeFi innovation is influenced by market conditions. Brody observes, “Lower interest rates make decentralized finance tools much more appealing. They do so by doubling potential returns compared to traditional options.” 5. Regulatory clarity will drive enterprise adoption. “The true race begins once the rules are clear. Until then, enterprises will hesitate to commit fully to blockchain-based solutions,” Brody asserts.

APIs have evolved from simple data connectors to the fundamental architecture driving financial innovation. In this episode of the Tearsheet Podcast, I speak with John Pitts. Plaid's John Pitts reveals how they're driving open banking and empowering consumer control. He is the Global Head of Policy at Plaid. With a career spanning regulatory and policy roles, Pitts brings a unique perspective to the table. He discusses the evolving role of APIs in financial services. From his role at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) to leading policy at Plaid, Pitts shares key insights on open banking. He explores how APIs are shaping the future of consumer financial data rights and fintech innovation. The Big Ideas 1. APIs Are the Backbone of Modern Financial Services. They serve as the foundation for modern financial services. This enables secure, efficient, and scalable data sharing. “It's like moving from dirt roads to highways,” Pitts explains. 2. Consumer Control Powers the Future of Open Banking. APIs empower consumers to access and share their financial data across platforms. This fosters innovation. “The U.S. has more connected accounts than anywhere else,” Pitts notes. 3. Embedded Finance Is Becoming a Key Use Case for APIs. Companies outside the financial sector, such as Tesla and John Deere, are adopting APIs for integrated financial services. 4. APIs Enable Stronger Collaboration to Prevent Digital Fraud. They facilitate data sharing among financial institutions, creating stronger defenses against digital fraud. “Greater data sharing protects consumers,” says Pitts. 5. API Adoption Is Both a Compliance Need and a Strategic Opportunity. Financial institutions can use APIs to increase consumer engagement and maintain account primacy.

Could cryptocurrency be the key to bridging financial gaps? Can it create a more inclusive global economy? Digital assets like stablecoins and blockchain technology are reshaping how we think about money. Their potential to level the financial playing field is becoming clearer. In today's episode of the Tearsheet podcast, I sit down with Lisa Nestor, Research Director at the Stanford Future of Digital Currency Initiative to discuss how fintech innovation is paving the way for broader financial inclusion. Lisa's expertise spans blockchain technology, cryptocurrency, and fintech innovation. This makes her a leading voice in understanding the intersection of these fields. Lisa's career reflects a deep commitment to financial inclusion. “When I started researching Stellar,” Lisa shares. “It brought together what I had seen [and demonstrated] the power of providing open-source financial infrastructure.” This passion for creating accessible financial systems has guided her work. It also included her current research on stablecoins and digital dollar adoption. Lisa explains how cryptocurrency, stablecoins, and blockchain can make finance fairer. Her insights show how these innovations affect cross-border payments and financial inclusion. She also discusses their role in the evolving fintech landscape. The Big Ideas 1. Open financial infrastructure creates a global ledger accessible to all. “The idea is to create a ledger that every financial institution in the world can operate on but can't buy. It is open and available to everyone.” 2. Stablecoins provide financial security in unstable economies. “In emerging markets like Argentina, stablecoins offer a way to hedge inflation. They secure savings amidst economic instability.” 3. Tokenizing real-world assets improves liquidity and global accessibility. “Tokenizing existing assets brings improved liquidity and global accessibility to traditionally illiquid markets.” 4. Governments explore CBDCs to complement existing banking systems. “Central banks are focused on introducing CBDCs that complement. Rather than compete with, existing banking systems.” 5. Digital dollars empower individuals in the gig economy. “More individuals are earning in digital dollars through online work. This is creating new economic opportunities without physical migration.”

What if the financial hurdles of running an e-commerce business — like cash flow struggles, banking complexities, and sales tax headaches — could be simplified into one seamless platform? In today's episode of the Tearsheet podcast, our guest Vikram Anreddy, head of product for financial services at Shopify, addresses just that. He discusses how the platform is addressing the financial needs of e-commerce entrepreneurs. His experience stems from roles at companies like Instagram and McKinsey. Anreddy is passionate about creating tools, especially the ones that ease the financial struggles of small business owners.   “Entrepreneurship is such a tough game,” Anreddy says. “The odds of success are very low, and there's so much friction.” He explains that Shopify is focused on reducing friction for e-commerce merchants. The company builds tailored solutions to help them succeed. Shopify Finance helps manage cash flow and simplify sales tax. It provides tools designed for small business owners. This lets them focus on their craft, not administrative tasks. Anreddy details how Shopify Finance integrates deeply into the platform's ecosystem. This allows merchants to manage their finances where they already operate their businesses. He also sheds light on innovative offerings like Shopify Capital Loans and Shopify Balance. These cater to the unique needs of small businesses. “Our goal is to stretch cash flows and end unnecessary complexities for our merchants,” Anreddy notes. Shopify Finance: A suite of tools for e-commerce merchants Shopify Finance addresses a critical pain point for merchants: managing their money. Traditional banking solutions often fail to cater to the unique needs of e-commerce entrepreneurs. This offers limited access to credit and complex processes. “Even opening a business bank account is hard for individual entrepreneurs,” Anreddy shares. The tech firm fills this gap with offerings like Shopify Balance, an alternative to traditional business banking. Merchants enjoy faster payouts, APY rewards, and seamless integrations. Tackling cash flow management with Shopify Capital loans Cash flow is a common challenge for small businesses, especially those managing inventory. Shopify Capital provides merchants with quick access to funds, enabling them to restock inventory or invest in growth opportunities. Since its launch in 2016, Shopify Capital has disbursed over $5 billion in funding. “It has become the rocket fuel for many of our merchants,” Anreddy highlights. He emphasizes the product's impact on reducing cash flow constraints. Building merchant-centric financial tools Shopify Finance products are designed with a deep understanding of merchants' needs. They are derived from constant feedback and data insights. The platform integrates financial tools directly into its admin panel for ease. Features like APY rewards are designed to help merchants thrive. “Our merchants are incredibly driven and curious,” Anreddy says. “They adopt new tools quickly, which makes it easier to build for them.” Future of Shopify Financial Services Looking ahead, the platform plans to expand its financial services globally. It aims to integrate AI-driven insights to help merchants optimize their finances. “We are guided by two principles: stretch merchants' cash flows and save them time,” Anreddy shares. The company also aims to enhance cross-product integrations. It wants to ensure seamless work management of features like Shopify Balance, credit cards, and sales tax management. This will help to reduce friction for merchants.

Franklin bridges the gap between Web3 and traditional finance, rethinking how businesses manage payroll and payments. Today's podcast features Megan Knab, Franklin's CEO. She shares insights into the transformative role of blockchain in financial operations. She has a vision: leveraging blockchain to modernize payroll and financial tools. Megan has a rich fintech background comprised of roles at Serotonin, DriveWealth, and Veriledger. As an accountant by trade, Megan is no stranger to navigating financial systems. She became passionate about blockchain in business school after discovering an accounting fraud at work. “Public blockchains,” she recalls, “have the power to create an open financial system.” Megan founded Franklin two years ago to simplify financial operations for Web3 businesses. She focuses on making finance easier and more efficient. She notes, “Anyone who's used payroll software in the last 10 years knows it can be an antiquated experience.” Franklin integrates both fiat and on-chain payment capabilities. This strategy allows it to operate in both Web3 and traditional finance. As a result, Franklin is carving out a unique niche in both areas. Crypto and financial tools Megan highlights blockchain's potential to enhance back-office operations for B2B organizations. She notes, “Stablecoins can leapfrog current payroll technologies by facilitating faster payments.” She also explains that blockchain's immutability ensures greater accuracy in financial reporting. This also builds trust in the data. “By using public ledgers, businesses can reduce errors and streamline audits. This creates efficiencies that traditional systems struggle to match,” Megan adds. Blockchain's ability to integrate with existing payment systems is driving innovation. This is creating new financial tools for modern business needs. Tax compliance and crypto One of Franklin's standout features is its focus on tax compliance. Megan explains, “We build tools that ensure every transaction adheres to federal and state regulations.” She emphasizes that Franklin's proactive approach simplifies navigating the regulatory maze. “With over 675 tax jurisdictions in the U.S., automation is critical for ensuring accurate reporting. And avoiding costly errors,” Megan notes. This commitment makes Franklin a trusted partner for businesses handling complex payroll systems. Decentralized finance for B2B Megan believes decentralized finance (DeFi) has practical use cases for businesses. ” We're helping companies operate seamlessly in fiat and crypto. Whether it is multi-currency payroll or international remittances,” she says. She also highlights the cost advantages of DeFi. “Businesses can reduce transaction fees and enhance payment speed. It does so by eliminating intermediaries. These are critical factors for today's global operations,” Megan explains. Early Wage Access without loans Franklin's approach to early wage access differs from traditional models. Megan critiques typical earned wage access programs as “modern payday lending”. She advocates for faster money movement using stablecoins instead. She adds, “Why burden employees with hidden loan agreements when we can facilitate instant payouts?” This method empowers workers and also minimizes administrative overhead for businesses. Franklin uses stablecoins to provide an alternative to outdated payroll systems. This creates more flexibility for both employers and employees. The Path Forward: Privacy and adoption of crypto For broader blockchain adoption, Megan identifies a need for privacy technologies. “Financial institutions will continue experimenting rather than integrating. This will happen until we address privacy concerns.” she asserts.

Launching a startup is challenging. It becomes even more difficult when tackling personal and business finances that confound entrepreneurs. Enter Uprise, the brainchild of Jessica Chen Riolfi and her co-founders. Uprise offers human-driven financial advisory services embedded into small business (SMB) platforms, like banks or personal finance sites. Uprise addresses the unique financial needs of entrepreneurs which include dealing with personal and professional cashflow. Jessica has extensive experience from companies like Robinhood, Earnin, Wise, and eBay. This background drives her approach to financial services. Jessica shares, “Financial advisory, in this context, combines personal and business finances. It helps entrepreneurs make holistic financial decisions.” Lack of personalized financial advisory services at Robinhood inspired the genesis of Uprise, especially for SMBs. Jessica shares a passion for simplifying financial products with her co-founders Chris and Nantha. Together, they work to make financial solutions more accessible, bridging the gap between business and personal finance for small business owners. Uprise initially targeted Gen Z and millennials but quickly pivoted to focus on older SMB owners. This shift met the growing demand for comprehensive financial advice. It specifically targeted consultants, freelancers, and creators. “The small business world is one where personal and financial lives are intermingled,” Jessica notes. She underscores the intricate needs of her firm's clientele. The genesis of Uprise Uprise emerges from a vision shared by Jessica and her co-founders, Chris and Nantha. They noticed the gap in financial advisory services for SMBs, where personal and business finances often overlap. As Jessica puts it, “We help them make financial decisions. And we kind of ignore the line between business and personal.” This approach recognizes the unique needs of entrepreneurs. Role of embedded finance in Small Business growth Embedded finance is at the core of Uprise's model. It is integrated into SMB platforms and Jessica explains, “Every small business owner interacting with our platform is assigned a human advisor.” This strategy not only builds trust but also addresses the specific financial advisory needs of SMBs. It offers a personalized experience. Jessica highlights the importance of understanding the distinct needs of different SMB sectors. For example, therapists using the vertical SaaS platform, Heard, prioritize personal relationships. This prompted Uprise to offer more direct communication channels like Zoom calls. “Calls matter a lot to therapists,” Jessica observes. She illustrates Uprise's adaptability to various client preferences. Financial planning for entrepreneurs Uprise has tailored its services to the intricate financial landscapes faced by entrepreneurs. Jessica emphasizes the importance of understanding personal and business finances. She highlights how they are interconnected. She offers advice on entity setup, retirement account options, and mortgage applications. “These are business-related questions, but they very much impact their finances,” Jessica emphasizes. She highlights Uprise's holistic approach. Building successful partnerships with SMB platforms Uprise's success is intertwined with its partnerships, where Jessica sees a collaborative effort. She notes, “It's very much a revenue driver for our partners, who are SMB platforms.” Uprise customizes its offerings to meet the unique needs of each platform. This ensures that both partners and end users enjoy their financial advisory services.

Coast stands out in fintech with its interactive API demos. Kara Parkey, head of strategic accounts at Coast, shares insights on the Tearsheet podcast as to why her firm is working with many of the best fintech brands. It's that Coast visually simplifies the complexity of API products, making their service essential in today's fast-changing financial world. Coast lets users view APIs in action, making vendor and partner presentations interactive. It turns static PowerPoints into dynamic, live experiences. According to Kara, “It's like seeing APIs come to life.” This is especially valuable for fintech companies focused on the API economy and open banking. It resonates with those driving innovation in these areas. How Coast pioneers API demos in fintech Kara explains that Coast's demos are not just about showcasing APIs. They are about transforming how potential clients experience them. Traditionally, fintech companies relied on static prototypes or lengthy technical documentation. Coast provides a live demo environment. Kara describes it as “a unique URL branded for the client.” This allows users to interact with the APIs in a realistic setting. This approach is especially appealing in fintech, where embedded finance is becoming more common, aligning with the growing trend in the industry. Impact on sales cycle and Time to Value One of the significant advantages Coast offers is the reduction of time of the sales cycle. Kara highlights a case study with Sardine, where Coast helped cut the sales cycle by 20% to 25%. This efficiency comes from cutting down the time needed to build demos. It also gives account executives a tool to easily explain complex APIs. As a result, the process is faster and simpler. “It's huge for embedded technology,” Kara emphasizes. She points out how it aids in reaching both technical and non-technical buyers. Facilitating API integration and onboarding Coast's technology also simplifies the onboarding process, enabling clients to get up and running swiftly. Kara notes that while typical onboarding can take 30 days to 60 days, some clients go live within a week. Coast enables quick setup by using existing API documentation. Companies can import their APIs and build stories around them easily. No deep technical integration is required. How Coast meets the needs of Financial Institutions As Open Banking and Section 1033 expand, financial institutions are updating their APIs. The pressure to upgrade is increasing. Kara mentions that Coast is actively engaging with banks to help them “increase adoption of their APIs and make it more scalable.” The ability to visualize complex data flows in a secure environment is crucial for banks. It helps them navigate these new regulatory landscapes. Ensuring security and compliance within Coast Security is paramount in the fintech industry. Kara says that Coast takes this seriously. Coast reduces compliance risks by serving as a visual overlay instead of storing sensitive information. This approach minimizes data security concerns. Kara states, “We are your API documentation, just a visual representation.” She says that Coast's solutions integrate without compromising data integrity.

In the ever-evolving world of fintech and open banking, staying ahead of the curve is crucial. Few understand this better than Peter Renton. He is the CEO and founder of Renton Co., a fintech consulting firm specializing in media, thought leadership, and event support. Renton is the former chairman and co-founder of Fintech Nexus (formerly LendIt Fintech). He has led fintech innovation for over a decade. His work has shaped the industry during this time. In today's episode of the Tearsheet podcast, Renton shared his insights on the current state of fintech. He shares his insights on where he sees the industry heading. Renton has a keen understanding of the fintech sector. His insights provide valuable guidance for established companies and newcomers in the industry. "Without doubt, the most interesting space in fintech in 2024 is the banking as a service space," Renton states. "Because of the way the banking system in this country is structured, we need banking as a service. And it's not going away." The evolution of fintech events Renton's journey in the fintech world was punctuated with the creation of LendIt. It is a conference that grew from a small gathering of 350 people to a major industry event attracting 5,000 attendees. As the fintech landscape evolved, so did the event. It expanded its focus from peer-to-peer lending to encompass broader fintech topics. "We expanded beyond lending and started it in 2017 and got going in like 2018, 2019 where we became a real fintech event," Renton explains. This evolution mirrors the broader changes in the fintech industry. These include specialized lending platforms to comprehensive financial services providers. The changing face of fintech conferences Large-scale events like Money 2020 and Fintech Meetup still attract many attendees. Renton observes a rising trend of smaller, more specialized events organized by fintech companies. "What you're seeing in the event space is more and more companies doing their small events," he observes. These specialized gatherings allow companies to showcase thought leadership. They help to engage with their target audience. Opportunities in Banking-as-a-Service and Embedded Finance Renton sees significant potential in the banking-as-a-service (BaaS) sector, despite recent challenges. He believes that new regulations will provide clarity and stability. This will create opportunities for community banks. As a result, they will be able to expand their reach through BaaS offerings. "If you want to grow your community bank, it's hard to do that geographically now," Renton explains. "But if you open up a BaaS line of business, there are ways you can grow your bank." Embedded finance is closely related to BaaS. It is another area Renton highlights as ripe for innovation. He points to companies like Pipe. They are bringing fintech solutions to non-financial businesses. Particularly in the vertical SaaS space. The promise of Open Banking Looking ahead, Renton is particularly excited about the potential of open banking. With the anticipated release of new CFPB rules on open banking, he foresees a wave of innovation. "Open banking... is going to be a moment in time, but then that's going to be in place and people are going to understand the rules of the road," Renton predicts. "I think there's a massive opportunity once that gets going. And when all the data, when your data becomes yours and it becomes more portable. There's going to be a wave of new fintech companies that are going to kind of use that and take advantage of that."

Is the promise of Web3 in finance finally coming to fruition, or are we still in the early stages of a long journey from Bitcoin to tokenized assets? As the cryptocurrency and Bitcoin market evolves, Bitcoin's price swings draw attention. Traditional banks explore blockchain cautiously. People are curious about the current stage of Web3 development. The question remains: where are we on the timeline? Today's episode of the Tearsheet podcast features Rumi Morales. She is a partner and board member at Outlier Ventures. She discusses the current state and future potential of Web3 in the financial sector. Morales brings extensive experience from her roles at CME Group, Digital Currency Group, and Goldman Sachs. Morales reflects on her decade-long journey in the cryptocurrency and Bitcoin space. She shares, "I would have answered this question a lot better 10 years ago when I first got into the space. I think I was full of hope and excitement and a lot of ambition." Her perspective offers a nuanced view of the industry's progress. She recognizes the progress and challenges of Web3 technologies in achieving mainstream adoption. As the discussion unfolds, Morales provides valuable insights into the current state of Web3. She discusses the role of decentralization. She elaborates on the potential for blockchain technology to reshape traditional financial services. Her position bridges traditional finance and emerging technologies. This gives readers a well-rounded view of the future of digital assets and decentralized systems. The Big Ideas Morales emphasizes the importance of data ownership and privacy in the Web3 ecosystem. She states, "I do think when it comes to data and data ownership and privacy and individual rights, this idea that humans and individuals should be owning their data. And not giving it away to centralized entities is becoming more and more and more important." There is tension between centralization and decentralization (such as with Bitcoin) in the Web3 space. Morales notes, "The question is, is that theory of decentralization ever gonna take over centralization? The jury is completely out for me on that one." This observation highlights a fundamental challenge in the Web3 ecosystem. It is balancing the ideals of decentralization with practical implementation and human nature. Web3 startups face significant hurdles when trying to collaborate with traditional financial institutions. These challenges stem from mismatches in resources, bureaucracy, and operational timelines. Morales explains, "Many times to get that contract signed, it has to go through how many layers of checks. And you're just hoping that they don't run out of money to get something done to prove that you can do this."  Accelerators are essential for nurturing Web3 innovation by supporting early-stage startups. This highlights the importance of investing in startups. Morales explains the role of Outlier Ventures in this ecosystem. She says, "We've probably accelerated around over 200 companies at this point, helping them in their earliest stages of growth. So these are pre-seed or seed stage companies." Tokenization of real-world assets represents a promising area for convergence between Web3 and traditional finance. Morales states, "That is around being able to tokenize most anything. It doesn't have to be a traditional security in the stock or bond sense of things."

In an evolving financial landscape, US Bank has emerged as a leader in digital transformation. It has reshaped the way customers interact with their finances. Today's episode of the Tearsheet podcast features Gareth Gaston, Chief Product Officer of Digital Platforms at US Bank. He discusses the bank's decade-long journey of innovation and customer-centric development. "We've been on a multi-year journey on digital transformation across all facets that you can think of digital," Gaston explains. This transformation has been more than just a technological upgrade. It's been a cultural shift that has positioned US Bank at the forefront of banking innovation. The journey began with the recognition that customers were using more than just physical branches. "When we started this journey, we were renting all our digital tools," Gaston recalls. "We didn't have a mobile app. We were kind of renting our online banking and bill pay." From these humble beginnings, U.S. Bank has built its own digital platform and in doing so, laid the groundwork for successful future product development. In doing so, it has created award-winning apps and platforms that serve millions of customers. Here's my conversation with U.S. Bank's Gareth Gaston.

Most banks right now are at a crossroads: Either they choose to overhaul their legacy systems or come to a point where they will continue to battle the complex legacy spaghetti of multiple software systems, struggle to access talent that can manage their tech, and alienate customers that expect the best of everything. Although the choice is obvious, going through with core modernization is extremely hard. Guests on the show have been excited about moving to the cloud for many years, but very few have really taken it on, which is why when I have the chance to talk to not one, but two individuals that have hands-on experience with helping banks modernize, I really dive into their recipe of success. Joining us on the show today is Russell Barrett, COO at Valley Bank, who shares the path to modernization his $60 billion institution took, how he and his leadership team devised the bank's change management policies, the role of consultants in this process, and the challenges the bank faced. Pouring his deep experience into this conversation on Valley Bank's work is David Feuer, CPO of Galileo Financial Technologies, who brings his expertise of handling and guiding multiple banks of all sizes on their transformation journey.

SMBs face critical challenges such as lack of access to credit, barriers for women entrepreneurs, and lower levels of digital enablement, which have limited their growth and success globally. Salah Goss takes us through the Mastercard's SMB strategy, which through initiatives like Strive, focuses on easing credit access, providing digital tools, and building networks, with a particular emphasis on empowering women-led enterprises and fostering community-driven growth.

As the financial world evolves, open banking and digital transformation are opening up new opportunities. This comes with several challenges for banks and fintechs. In today's episode, I sit down with Alessandro Hatami. He is a managing partner of Pacemakers, a consulting firm that offers a systematic approach that allows its clients to find the partner that is right for them. Today we discuss some of these seismic shifts in the fintech industry. Hatami has a unique background in financial services, spanning both upstart tech companies like PayPal and traditional institutions like Lloyds Bank. His background offers a compelling perspective on the future of financial services. "Financial services is the ideal digital product," Hatami asserts. "because there isn't a real tangible exchange," he says. Yet, despite this potential, many institutions are struggling to embrace digital transformation. I've been saying for years on this podcast that the ability for both larger and smaller institutions to partner – to partner well, at scale, quickly, and deeply – can be a differentiated, defensible model moving forward. Hatami explains, "They have gone through an evolution. But they haven't gone through a transformation." The challenge facing the industry today lies in balancing adaptation with true transformation. from legacy systems to cultural barriers. Through Pacemakers, Hatami aims to bridge this gap. He wants to improve partnerships between established financial institutions and agile fintech innovators. Here's my conversation with Pacemakers' Alessandro Hatami.

SMBs need more from their FIs, and data echoes this demand. 62% of SMB owners have reported feeling like their business banking options don't go any further than the services already available in their personal accounts.  So banks have to find a way to not only differentiate their business banking products from fintech and platform competitors but their own personal banking products as well. One bank that is leading the way is Citizens, which has a three-pronged strategy for SMBs, according to its President & Head of Business Banking, Mark Valentino. Valentino talks about how Citizens is getting closer to the needs and wants of SMB owners by focusing on gathering feedback through surveys and its bankers.

Today, we're diving into the ever-green landscape of startups and startup banking. While the startup scene is always buzzing, recent years have been particularly challenging due to a tough market, limited investment opportunities, and waning investor confidence. However, with a rebound in VC funding this year and recent rate cuts by the Fed, there's a glimmer of hope for improvement and new opportunities. Joining me to discuss startup banking and share related insights from recent J.P. Morgan research is Ashraf Hebela, Head of Startup Banking at J.P. Morgan. In our conversation, Ashraf dives into how J.P. Morgan is sharpening its focus on startup banking, what approaches can better serve underrepresented founders, and the critical support that banking startups require from their financial institutions to thrive.

The days when SMBs were tethered to their home markets are long behind us. Today, SMBs are eagerly embracing global opportunities, expanding into new regions, and viewing cross-border sales as a key growth driver. Yet, with this expansion comes a major challenge: navigating the complexities of international payments. 49% of SMBs cite the ease of managing cross-border payments as a top concern. Many have faced friction with traditional banks, which has created a fertile ground for non-bank alternatives to step in. This shift is reflected in the growing trend of SMBs switching providers. While pricing and fees were once the main reasons for switching, today, the search for “better and more convenient” digital solutions is becoming a powerful motivator alongside these operational needs. So, how can FIs respond to this shift? Chris Ward, Head of Enterprise Payments at Truist Financial Corporation, addresses this question and its potential solutions at Tearsheet's The Big Bank Theory Conference, recently held in New York.

How can FIs step in with solutions that alleviate these pain points, allowing SMBs to concentrate on growing their businesses while relegating banking to the background? “I think there are a few elements of that, but since SMB customers are willing to adopt technology, that's a start,” said Scott Beyer, U.S. Bank's Head of Business Banking Digital Experiences during Tearsheet's The Big Bank Theory Conference, held recently in New York. Beyers noted that a generational change is underway in the SMB landscape, with 77% of small business owners now adopting or planning to adopt technology to enhance their operational efficiency. This trend presents a valuable opportunity for FIs to enter the scene and create engaging digital experiences that resonate with the evolving needs of these businesses. He identified three key steps banks can employ to seize the opportunity and address existing gaps:  1. Ensure the availability of products and services 2. Build integrations 3. Focus on data reconciliation and harmonization

Generative AI and open banking are beginning to change how banks engage with customers. Today we will look at this process with Olly Downs. He is a Chief Technology and AI Officer at Curinos. With a career spanning three waves of AI, Downs brings a wealth of experience to the table. He published his first academic paper on what we now call generative AI, back in 1999. "I've almost been waiting for the current wave of AI to join us," Downs reflects. He highlights the long-anticipated arrival of today's AI capabilities. AI-driven personalization will change digital banking. Banks are beginning to use it to recreate the personalized touch of traditional banking. Downs explains, "Traditional banking founded itself on personalized, high-engagement relationships. That followed families and businesses throughout their entire life cycle." Personalizing the online experience is challenging due to the growth of digital channels. Curinos' technology tackles this by analyzing customer journeys. It identifies the best times and ways to engage customers. This ensures that personalization continues in the digital space. The result is a more effective and tailored customer experience. Generative AI is not just boosting personalization. It addresses the entire marketing cycle for banks. This shift is redefining how banks approach customer engagement. It's enabling and testing tailored interactions with numerous ready-to-use marketing creatives. The impact is both profound and widespread. The blend of personalization with open banking is shaping the future of banking.

In the latest episode of Tearsheet's newest podcast, "Compound Influence," hosts Zack Miller and Josh Liggett dive deep into the fascinating world of Wall Street Bets (WSB) and its impact on the financial landscape. This eye-opening discussion explores the intersection of social media, retail investing, and the power of online communities. The Rise of Wall Street Bets The hosts trace the origins of WSB, from its humble beginnings in 2012 with just 1,700 followers to its explosive growth to over 17 million members by 2024. This growth trajectory wasn't linear – it saw a massive spike during the GameStop saga in early 2021, catapulting the community into the mainstream spotlight. The Robinhood Connection A significant portion of the podcast focuses on the symbiotic relationship between WSB and the trading app Robinhood. The hosts discuss how Robinhood's commission-free trading model and gamified user experience aligned perfectly with WSB's high-risk, high-reward trading philosophy. This partnership inadvertently led to debugging Robinhood's platform and exposing potential exploits. Impact on the Financial Industry The discussion highlights how WSB and the GameStop event forced traditional financial institutions to take notice of retail investors' collective power. It led to the emergence of new platforms like Public.com and prompted established players to adapt their strategies. The WSB Ethos One of the most intriguing aspects of WSB, as pointed out in the podcast, is its unique culture. Unlike traditional finance forums, WSB embraces transparency about losses, often with self-deprecating humor. This openness creates a sense of community and shared experience among members. Challenges and Concerns The hosts don't shy away from addressing the potential dangers of WSB's influence. They discuss how the influx of inexperienced investors armed with partial knowledge can lead to risky behavior and significant financial losses. Lessons for Financial Institutions The episode concludes with insights on how established financial institutions might engage with communities like WSB. The hosts emphasize the importance of authentic interaction and warn against attempts to control or manipulate these organic communities.

Welcome to the Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I'm Tearsheet's editor in chief, Zack Miller. Today, we're joined by Bill Borden, Corporate Vice President, Worldwide Financial Services, at Microsoft, and Suzanne Dann, CEO for the Americas at Wipro. Together, they discuss their collaboration on leveraging Azure OpenAI to enhance generative AI in finance. This partnership focuses on improving customer experiences, streamlining processes, and ensuring responsible AI practices in the financial industry. As Suzanne puts it, “My role is to help clients digitally transform by bringing together the right industry expertise, technology, and integration experience.” Bill adds, “Our goal at Microsoft is to build products and services that truly meet the unique needs of financial institutions.” We'll explore how cognitive assistants, powered by generative AI, are reshaping customer interactions, loan origination, and even the broker experience, all while maintaining a focus on security, reliability, and expanding AI access across the sector.

Gaurav Mittal, Executive Vice President of Ethoca, a Mastercard company, shows that the post-purchase space represents an opportunity for our industry. It's where customers want convenience, autonomy, and trust but many of the players today have not been able to meet their demands. Mittal brings a unique insight into how tools like digital receipts and subscription management delivered within the banking app can improve customer experience. What's more, this mission to ease post-purchase tasks like cancellations brings with it cost reductions and operational efficiencies for merchants and banks as well — and our guest today tells us how to build for the hard to achieve but ideal solution: a partnership landscape where everybody wins.  To learn more about how merchants and banks can leverage subscription management tools and digital receipts to better serve customers as well as positively impact their bottoms lines download this whitepaper: https://www.library.tearsheet.co/ethocawp

Welcome to the second episode of our de novo community banking series. I'm Sara Khairi, your host and reporter at Teasheet. If you tuned in a couple of weeks ago, you know we kicked things off with a deep dive into Craft Bank's journey in Atlanta, from CEO Ross Mynatt's debut leadership role to its choice of core tech partner and the strategies it used to grow $250 million in assets. This episode builds on that theme, exploring the origin, growth, and technology paths of two other community banks: RockPoint Bank in Tennessee and Moultrie Bank in Georgia. Both banks are relatively young, having been founded during the pandemic, and while they share some commonalities like limited budgets and staffing, they each have unique markets and growth strategies. The variety of perspectives on the same challenges is what makes their story interesting. Joining us are Hamp Johnston, President and CEO of RockPoint Bank, and Donna Lott, President and CEO of Moultrie Bank & Trust. We discuss the origins and development of their banks, the hurdles they've overcome, and why they decided on Jack Henry as the right tech partner for them.

Strategic partnerships – those relationships between traditional financial institutions and fintechs – have become really integral as banks seek to modernize their offerings and fintechs aim to scale their operations and get distribution. KeyBank and Qolo have teamed up on an embedded finance offering. On today's episode, we sit with Jon Briggs, Head of Product and Innovation at KeyBank, and Patricia Montesi, Co-founder and CEO of Qolo. Their collaboration story begins two years ago when a single slide in Qolo's pitch deck caught KeyBank's attention. "We still talk about it today," Montesi recalls. "It was the ‘Series A: Winter Slide', which was all about how fintech had created this spiderweb ecosystem of suppliers. And sort of put the burden back on banks and corporates to bring it all together." Their shared goal of simplifying fintech sparked a partnership that's addressing how treasurer think about and use banking. As Briggs explains, "We enter partnerships because they need a lot of mind share, a lot of sweat equity." What set Qolo apart was their deep understanding of banking-grade compliance and operational risk. This makes the integration process less painful. The result of their collaboration? KeyVAM, a virtual account management system that simplifies money movement by consolidating balances and transactions in a virtual platform, reducing the need for organizations to manage multiple accounts or complex account structures. KeyBank's Jon Briggs and Qolo's Patricia Montesi are my guests today on the Tearsheet Podcast.

Today's episode of the Tearsheet podcast features Dan Kang, VP of Finance at Mercury. He shares his insights on how the fintech company is reshaping corporate finance for tech founders. Kang has experience in private equity, Square, and Mercury. This background gives him a unique view of financial services for startups and positions the neobank nicely as the IPO window opens wider for more of its clients. His insights are especially valuable in today's changing financial landscape. "We're excited about the service area that this opens up for Mercury," Kang explains. He discusses the company's recent expansion into personal banking. This move, based on customer demand, shows Mercury's commitment to complete financial solutions for founders.  Kang emphasizes the importance of understanding customer pain points. He states, "It starts with really understanding what are the customer pain points and what are they looking for." This customer-centric approach has led Mercury to develop innovative products. These include free wire transfers and streamlined SAFE agreements.I think this approach sets them apart in the competitive fintech landscape.

Welcome to Compound Influence, the podcast that dissects the power players shaping the financial services industry. I'm your host, Tearsheet's Zack Miller, joined by my insightful co-host, Josh Liggett. In today's episode, we're diving deep into the world of financial analysis and influence, focusing on a figure who's been making waves in a unique way: Ron Shevlin. Known for his data-driven approach and sharp insights, Ron has carved out a niche as the "analyst's analyst" in our industry. We'll explore how Ron's methodical, sometimes contrarian views are reshaping conversations in banking and fintech. We'll also draw some interesting comparisons to Jim Cramer, whom we discussed in our previous episode, highlighting the diverse ways influence manifests in our field. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or a rising star in financial services, this episode promises to offer valuable insights into the mechanics of influence and the power of nuanced, data-backed perspectives in our rapidly evolving industry. The big ideas Data-Driven Contrarianism: Ron Shevlin's approach combines deep industry knowledge with a willingness to challenge accepted practices, using data to poke holes in common assumptions about banking and fintech. The Power of "Boring" Finance: In contrast to flashy influencers, Shevlin's "boring" but substantive content resonates strongly with industry professionals, highlighting the value of in-depth, nuanced analysis in financial services. Independence as Influence: Shevlin's perceived independence and resistance to being "influenced" himself lends significant credibility to his opinions and analyses. Niche Expertise in a Massive Market: The financial services industry is so large that influencers like Shevlin can focus on specific niches (like credit unions) and still have substantial impact and reach. B2B Storytelling Through Social Media: The podcast discusses how leaders in fintech and banking are increasingly using platforms like LinkedIn to share behind-the-scenes insights, building trust and connections with potential clients and partners. So, grab your coffee, settle in, and let's unpack the

Hey, I'm Tearsheet's Sara Khairi. For my very first episode, I decided to step outside the frenetic pace of the Big Apple and dive into the lesser-known banking scene in other states. Community banks have weathered a storm of challenges in recent years, including macroeconomic pressures and the uncertainty following three regional bank failures in 2023. In particular, young community banks launched during the peak of Covid-19 have had to contend with additional complexities due to their timing. These community banks may operate on a smaller scale, but their ambitions rival those of Wall Street giants. As the digital wave sweeps across the globe, these banks are not just staying in the game — they're hustling to keep pace and stay relevant by adopting emerging technologies. One example is Atlanta's Craft Bank, which opened its doors in 2020, right when the world was facing a pandemic. Primarily a commercial bank with a business-centric focus, Craft Bank currently operates with a team of 19 employees and manages total assets of $250 million. Ross Mynatt, CEO of Craft Bank, joins us to discuss his journey as a first-time CEO, the choice of Jack Henry as their core tech partner, and the strategies behind Craft Bank's $250 million asset growth at a time when most smaller institutions were struggling just to stay afloat.

Welcome to the Tearsheet Podcast, where we explore financial services together with an eye on technology, innovation, emerging models, and changing expectations. I'm Tearsheet's editor in chief, Zack Miller In today's episode, we explore what it takes to build world-class data governance in financial services. Our guests are Jay Como, the global head of data governance at T. Rowe Price, and Glenn Kurban, partner at Capco. We talk about how generative AI and new data strategies are transforming finance, sharing insights on the transformation of the Chief Data Officer role. The discussion also focuses on the challenges of large-scale data migrations. Jay Como reflects on the convergence of data and digital roles. He states, "What we've seen is there used to be kind of two shapes of CDOs. There was a chief data officer and there was a chief digital officer. And what I think in the last five years is what we've seen is those roles have really come together." Glenn Kurban adds depth to this perspective, emphasizing the shift towards more proactive data strategies. Glenn says, "You're seeing much more being asked of CDOs in terms of, how are we moving now to an offensive posture around data? That is, how am I going to monetize this data? How can I use it to drive better decisions, reduce costs, and actually outpace our competitors?" As our discussion unfolds, it becomes clear that the financial services industry is at a pivotal moment. AI tools and cloud technologies are reshaping traditional approaches to data governance and migration. The insights shared by Como and Kurban offer a glimpse into the future of data management in finance. AI-driven solutions and strategic data governance converge to create new opportunities and challenges. Here's my conversation with Jay and Glenn.

This conversation with Suzy's Matt Britton really rose above the noise and allowed me to look at the financial services industry as an interconnected whole, as a mechanism that is alive and complex. It's the kind of perspective you can lose when you report on niche developments day in and out. In this podcast, Britton takes us on a step by step inspection of a lot of the things we have come to take for granted: the rise of BNPL, Gen Z's complicated relationship with money, and also how AI is going to impact sectors like wealth management and restructure how we recruit, train and strategize around talent. Britton is an example of a man that not only has his finger on the pulse but is also able to condense the many and sometimes conflicting signals the market and the industry gives, into a cogent outlook. It's a conversation that will urge you to stop and take stock, and one that also spotlights how FIs can make the most of an industry and consumers that are in flux right now.

Today's a first for the podcast. We have an entire management team joining us on the podcast.  For today's show, we have the new leadership team of Malka Media. Malka is a subsidiary of MoneyLion and the firm's content studio. It's in integral part of the entire firm's strategy and we definitely dive into their groundbreaking approach to financial content marketing.  Bill Davaris, co-CEO of Malka Media, emphasizes the importance of quality content and storytelling for the firm. He states, "We're trying to bring in what modern brands want, right? By bringing in top talent, where can we serve them with the latest technologies and strategies."  Paige McCrenskey, Chief Brand Officer, highlights the challenges of the "attention deficit economy". She focuses on the need for brands to connect through compelling stories. Chris Apostle, co-CEO, discusses the critical role of technology and data in powering marketing efforts and customer engagement.  Together, they explore how Malka Media is creating a dynamic content ecosystem within MoneyLion and beyond with the firm's clients.  Malka Media's new management suite is my guest today on the Tearsheet Podcast.

Tearsheet's roots were in investment and wealth tech. As that world became more focused on plain vanilla robo-advisors about a decade ago, I expanded our focus to include banking, payments, and lending. That's because with ETFs and low-cost providers, it felt like most of the focus of innovation was coming from removing costs. Things have changed since then. On today's episode, we explore the changing world of wealth management with two industry leaders: Nader Souri, Head of Corporate Banking at BNY, and Caesar Sengupta, CEO of Arta Finance. You don't have to listen closely to really feel their connection and the relationship they've personally forged through working together. I first spoke with Ceasar a few years ago when he was VP and General Manager of Payments and Next Billion Users at Google. Our conversation reveals how these two organizations are leading how wealth management solutions are evolving for professionals. It also sheds light on the role of fintech partnerships in this transformation. Caesar Sengupta opens the discussion by explaining Arta Finance's mission. “We are a digital family office or a digital private bank for professionals, not the ultra-rich,” he says. The goal is to democratize wealth management and make sophisticated financial tools accessible to those who have worked hard in their careers. Nader Souri adds, “At BNY, we provide the platform upon which folks like Arta Finance can build their businesses.” He highlights the role of clearing and custody infrastructure. This helps in supporting innovative fintech solutions.