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In this episode of In-Ear Insights, the Trust Insights podcast, Katie and Chris discuss the stark reality of the future of work presented at the Marketing AI Conference, MAICON 2025. You’ll learn which roles artificial intelligence will consume fastest and why average employees face the highest risk of replacement. You’ll master the critical thinking and contextual skills you must develop now to transform yourself into an indispensable expert. You’ll understand how expanding your intellectual curiosity outside your specific job will unlock creative problem solving essential for survival. You’ll discover the massive global AI blind spot that US companies ignore and how this shifting landscape affects your career trajectory. Watch now to prepare your career for the age of accelerated automation! Watch the video here: Can’t see anything? Watch it on YouTube here. Listen to the audio here: https://traffic.libsyn.com/inearinsights/tipodcast-maicon-2025-generative-ai-for-marketers.mp3 Download the MP3 audio here. Need help with your company’s data and analytics? Let us know! Join our free Slack group for marketers interested in analytics! [podcastsponsor] Machine-Generated Transcript What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for listening to the episode. Christopher S. Penn – 00:00 In this week’s In Ear Insights, we are at the Marketing AI Conference, Macon 2025 in Cleveland with 1,500 of our best friends. This morning, the CEO of SmartRx, formerly the Marketing AI Institute, Paul Ritzer, was talking about the future of work. Now, before I go down a long rabbit hole, Dave, what was your immediate impressions, takeaways from Paul’s talk? Katie Robbert – 00:23 Paul always brings this really interesting perspective because he’s very much a futurist, much like yourself, but he’s a futurist in a different way. Whereas you’re on the future of the technology, he’s focused on the future of the business and the people. And so his perspective was really, “AI is going to take your job.” If we had to underscore it, that was the bottom line: AI is going to take your job. However, how can you be smarter about it? How can you work with it instead of working against it? Obviously, he didn’t have time to get into every single individual solution. Katie Robbert – 01:01 The goal of his keynote talk was to get us all thinking, “Oh, so if AI is going to take my job, how do I work with AI versus just continuing to fight against it so that I’m never going to get ahead?” I thought that was a really interesting way to introduce the conference as a whole, where every individual session is going to get into their soldiers. Christopher S. Penn – 01:24 The chart that really surprised me was one of those, “Oh, he actually said the quiet part out loud.” He showed the SaaS business chart: SaaS software is $500 billion of economic value. Of course, AI companies are going, “Yeah, we want that money. We want to take all that money.” But then he brought up the labor chart, which is $12 trillion of money, and says, “This is what the AI companies really want. They want to take all $12 trillion and keep it for themselves and fire everybody,” which is the quiet part out loud. Even if they take 20% of that, that’s still, obviously, what is it, $2 trillion, give or take? When we think about what that means for human beings, that’s basically saying, “I want 20% of the workforce to be unemployed.” Katie Robbert – 02:15 And he wasn’t shy about saying that. Unfortunately, that is the message that a lot of the larger companies are promoting right now. So the question then becomes, what does that mean for that 20%? They have to pivot. They have to learn new skills, or—the big thing, and you and I have talked about this quite a bit this year—is you really have to tap into that critical thinking. That was one of the messages that Paul was sharing in the keynote: go to school, get your liberal art degree, and focus on critical thinking. AI is going to do the rest of it. Katie Robbert – 02:46 So when we look at the roles that are up for grabs, a lot of it was in management, a lot of it was in customer service, a lot of it was in analytics—things that already have a lot of automation around them. So why not naturally let agentic AI take over, and then you don’t need human intervention at all? So then, where does that leave the human? Katie Robbert – 03:08 We’re the ones who have to think what’s next. One of the things that Paul did share was that the screenwriter for all of the Scorsese films was saying that ChatGPT gave me better ideas. We don’t know what those exact prompts looked like. We don’t know how much context was given. We don’t know how much background information. But if that was sue and I, his name was Paul. Paul Schrader. Yes, I forgot it for a second. If Paul Schrader can look at Paul Schrader’s work, then he’s the expert. That’s the thing that I think needed to also be underscored: Paul Schrader is the expert in Paul Schrader. Paul Schrader is the expert in screenwriting those particular genre films. Nobody else can do that. Katie Robbert – 03:52 So Paul Schrader is the only one who could have created the contextual information for those large language models. He still has value, and he’s the one who’s going to take the ideas given by the large language models and turn them into something. The large language model might give him an idea, but he needs to be the one to flush it out, start to finish, because he’s the one who understands nuance. He’s the one who understands, “If I give this to a Leonardo DiCaprio, what is he gonna do with the role? How is he gonna think about it?” Because then you’re starting to get into all of the different complexities where no one individual ever truly works alone. You have a lot of other humans. Katie Robbert – 04:29 I think that’s the part that we haven’t quite gotten to, is sure, generative AI can give you a lot of information, give you a lot of ideas, and do a lot of the work. But when you start incorporating more humans into a team, the nuance—it’s very discreet. It’s very hard for an AI to pick up. You still need humans to do those pieces. Christopher S. Penn – 04:49 When you take a look, though, at something like the Tilly Norwood thing from a couple weeks ago, even there, it’s saying, “Let’s take fewer humans in there,” where you have this completely machine generated actor avatar, I guess. It was very clearly made to replace a human there because they’re saying, “This is great. They don’t have to pay union wages. The actor never calls in sick. The actor never takes a vacation. The actor’s not going to be partying at a club unless someone makes it do that.” When we look at that big chart of, “Here’s all the jobs that are up for grabs,” the $12 trillion of economic value, when you look at that, how at risk do you think your average person is? Katie Robbert – 05:39 The key word in there is average. An average person is at risk. Because if an average person isn’t thinking about things creatively, or if they’re just saying, “Oh, this is what I have to do today, let me just do it. Let me just do the bare minimum, get through it.” Yes, that person is at risk. But someone who looks at a problem or a task that’s in front of them and thinks, “What are the five different ways that I could approach this? Let me sit down for a second, really plan it out. What am I not thinking of? What have I not asked? What’s the information I don’t have in front of me? Let me go find that”—that person is less at risk because they are able to think beyond what’s right in front of them. Katie Robbert – 06:17 I think that is going to be harder to replace. So, for example, I do operations, I’m a CEO. I set the vision. You could theoretically give that to an AI to do. I could create CEO Katie GPT. And GPT Katie could set the vision, based on everything I know: “This is the direction that your company should go in.” What that generative AI doesn’t know is what I know—what we’ve tried, what we haven’t tried. I could give it all that information and it could still say, “Okay, it sounds like you’ve tried this.” But then it doesn’t necessarily know conversations that I’ve had with you offline about certain things. Could I give it all that information? Sure. But then now I’m introducing another person into the conversation. And as predictable as humans are, we’re unpredictable. Katie Robbert – 07:13 So you might say, “Katie would absolutely say this to something.” And I’m going to look at it and go, “I would absolutely not say that.” We’ve actually run into that with our account manager where she’s like, “Well, this is how I thought you would respond. This is how I thought you would post something on social media.” I’m like, “Absolutely not. That doesn’t sound like me at all.” She’s like, “But that’s what the GPT gave me that is supposed to sound like you.” I’m like, “Well, it’s wrong because I’m allowed to change my mind. I’m a human.” And GPTs or large language models don’t have that luxury of just changing its mind and just kind of winging it, if that makes sense. Christopher S. Penn – 07:44 It does. What percentage, based on your experience in managing people, what percentage of people are that exceptional person versus the average or the below average? Katie Robbert – 07:55 A small percentage, unfortunately, because it comes down to two things: consistency and motivation. First, you have to be consistent and do your thing well all the time. In order to be consistent, you have to be motivated. So it’s not enough to just show up, check the boxes, and then go about your day, because anybody can do that; AI can do that. You have to be motivated to want to learn more, to want to do more. So the people who are demonstrating a hunger for reaching—what do they call it?—punching above their weight, reaching beyond what they have, those are the people who are going to be less vulnerable because they’re willing to learn, they’re willing to adapt, they’re willing to be agile. Christopher S. Penn – 08:37 For a while now we’ve been saying that either you’re going to manage the machines or the machines are going to manage you. And now of course we are at the point the machine is just going to manage the machines and you are replaced. Given so few people have that intrinsic motivation, is that teachable or is that something that someone has to have—that inner desire to want to better, regardless of training? Katie Robbert – 09:08 “Teachable” I think is the wrong word. It’s more something that you have to tap into with someone. This is something that you’ve talked about before: what motivates people—money, security, blah, blah, whatever, all those different things. You can say, “I’m going to motivate you by dangling money in front of you,” or, “I’m going to motivate you by dangling time off in front of you.” I’m not teaching you anything. I’m just tapping into who you are as a person by understanding your motives, what motivates you, what gets you excited. I feel fairly confident in saying that your motivations, Chris, are to be the smartest person in the room or to have the most knowledge about your given industry so that you can be considered an expert. Katie Robbert – 09:58 That’s something that you’re going to continue to strive for. That’s what motivates you, in addition to financial security, in addition to securing a good home life for your family. That’s what motivates you. So as I, the other human in the company, think about it, I’m like, “What is going to motivate Chris to get his stuff done?” Okay, can I position it as, “If you do this, you’re going to be the smartest person in the room,” or, “If you do this, you’re going to have financial security?” And you’re like, “Oh, great, those are things I care about. Great, now I’m motivated to do them.” Versus if I say, “If you do this, I’ll get off your back.” That’s not enough motivation because you’re like, “Well, you’re going to be on my back anyway.” Katie Robbert – 10:38 Why bother with this thing when it’s just going to be the next thing the next day? So it’s not a matter of teaching people to be motivated. It’s a matter of, if you’re the person who has to do the motivating, finding what motivates someone. And that’s a very human thing. That’s as old as humans are—finding what people are passionate about, what gets them out of bed in the morning. Christopher S. Penn – 11:05 Which is a complex interplay. If you think about the last five years, we’ve had a lot of discussions about things like quiet quitting, where people show up to work to do the bare minimum, where workers have recognized companies don’t have their back at all. Katie Robbert – 11:19 We have culture and pizza on Fridays. Christopher S. Penn – 11:23 At 5:00 PM when everyone wants to just— Katie Robbert – 11:25 Go home and float in that day. Christopher S. Penn – 11:26 Exactly. Given that, does that accelerate the replacement of those workers? Katie Robbert – 11:37 When we talk about change management, we talk about down to the individual level. You have to be explaining to each and every individual, “What’s in it for me?” If you’re working for a company that’s like, “Well, what’s in it for you is free pizza Fridays and funny hack days and Hawaiian shirt day,” that doesn’t put money in their bank account. That doesn’t put a roof over their head; that doesn’t put food on their table, maybe unless they bring home one of the free pizzas. But that’s once a week. What about the other six days a week? That’s not enough motivation for someone to stay. I’ve been in that position, you’ve been in that position. My first thought is, “Well, maybe stop spending money on free pizza and pay me more.” Katie Robbert – 12:19 That would motivate me, that would make me feel valued. If you said, “You can go buy your own pizza because now you can afford it,” that’s a motivator. But companies aren’t thinking about it that way. They’re looking at employees as just expendable cogs that they can rip and replace. Twenty other people would be happy to do the job that you’re unhappy doing. That’s true, but that’s because companies are setting up people to fail, not to succeed. Christopher S. Penn – 12:46 And now with machinery, you’re saying, “Okay, since there’s a failing cog anyway, why don’t we replace it with an actual cog instead?” So where does this lead for companies? Particularly in capitalist markets where there is no strong social welfare net? Yeah, obviously if you go to France, you can work a 30-hour week and be just fine. But we don’t live in France. France, if you’re hiring, we’re available. Where does it lead? Because I can definitely see one road where this leads to basically where France ended up in 1789, which is the Guillotines. These people trot out the Guillotines because after a certain point, income inequality leads to that stuff. Where does this lead for the market as you see it now? Katie Robbert – 13:39 Unfortunately, nowhere good. We have seen time and time again, as much as we want to see the best in people, we’re seeing the worst in people today, as of this podcast recording—not at Macon. These are some of the best people. But when you step outside of this bubble, you’re seeing the worst in people. They’re motivated by money and money only, money and power. They don’t care about humanity as a whole. They’re like, “I don’t care if you’re poor, get poorer, I’m getting richer.” I feel like, unfortunately, that is the message that is being sent. “If you can make a dollar, go ahead and make a dollar. Don’t worry about what that does to anybody else. Go ahead and be in it for yourself.” Katie Robbert – 14:24 And that’s unfortunately where I see a lot of companies going: we’re just in it to make money. We no longer care about the welfare of our people. I’ve talked on previous shows, on previous podcasts. My husband works for a grocery store that was bought out by Amazon a few years ago, and he’s seeing the effects of that daily. Amazon bought this grocery chain and said basically, “We don’t actually care about the people. We’re going to automate things. We’re going to introduce artificial intelligence.” They’ve gotten rid of HR. He still has to bring home a physical check because there is no one to give him paperwork to do direct deposit. Christopher S. Penn – 15:06 He’s been—ironic given the company. Katie Robbert – 15:08 And he’s been at the company for 25 years. But when they change things over, if he has an assurance question, there’s no one to go to. They probably have chatbots and an email distribution list that goes to somebody in an inbox that never. It’s so sad to see the decline based on where the company started and what the mission originally was of that company to where it is today. His suspicion—and this is not confirmed—his suspicion is that they are gearing up to sell this business, this grocery chain, to another grocery chain for profit and get rid of it. Flipping it, basically. Right now, they’re using it as a distribution center, which is not what it’s meant to be. Katie Robbert – 15:56 And now they’re going to flip it to another grocery store chain because they’ve gotten what they needed from it. Who cares about the people? Who cares about the fact that he as an individual has to work 50 hours a week because there’s nobody else? They’ve flattened the company. They’re like, “No, based on our AI scheduler, there’s plenty of people to cover all of these hours seven days a week.” And he’s like, “Yeah, you have me on there for seven of the seven days.” Because the AI is not thinking about work-life balance. It’s like, “Well, this individual is available at these times, so therefore he must be working here.” And it’s not going to do good things for people in services industries, for people in roles that cannot be automated. Katie Robbert – 16:41 So we talk about customer service—that’s picking up the phone, logging a plate—that can be automated. Walking into a brick and mortar, there are absolutely parts of it that can be automated, specifically the end purchase transaction. But the actual ordering and picking of things and preparing it—sure, you could argue that eventually robots could be doing that, but as of today, that’s all humans. And those humans are being treated so poorly. Christopher S. Penn – 17:08 So where does that end for this particular company or any large enterprise? Katie Robbert – 17:14 They really have—they have to make decisions: do they want to put the money first or the people first? And you already know what the answer to that is. That’s really what it comes down to. When it ends, it doesn’t end. Even if they get sold, they’re always going to put the money first. If they have massive turnover, what do they care? They’re going to find somebody else who’s willing to do that work. Think about all of those people who were just laid off from the white-collar jobs who are like, “Oh crap, I still have a mortgage I have to pay, I still have a family I have to feed. Let me go get one of those jobs that nobody else is now willing to do.” Katie Robbert – 17:51 I feel like that’s the way that the future of work for those people who are left behind is going to turn over. Katie Robbert – 17:59 There’s a lot of people who are happy doing those jobs. I love doing more of what’s considered the blue-collar job—doing things manually, getting their hands in it, versus automating everything. But that’s me personally; that’s what motivates me. That I would imagine is very unappealing to you. Not that for almost. But if cooking’s off the table, there’s a lot of other things that you could do, but would you do them? Katie Robbert – 18:29 So when we talk about what’s going to happen to those people who are cut and left behind, those are the choices they’re going to have to make because there’s not going to be more tech jobs for them to choose from. And if you are someone in your career who has only ever focused on one thing, you’re definitely in big trouble. Christopher S. Penn – 18:47 Yeah, I have a friend who’s a lawyer at a nonprofit, and they’re like, “Yeah, we have no funding anymore, so.” But I can’t pick up and go to England because I can’t practice law there. Katie Robbert – 18:59 Right. I think about people. Forever, social media was it. You focus on social media and you are set. Anybody will hire you because they’re trying to learn how to master social media. Guess where there’s no jobs anymore? Social media. So if all you know is social media and you haven’t diversified your skill set, you’re cooked, you’re done. You’re going to have to start at ground zero entry level. If there’s that. And that’s the thing that’s going to be tough because entry-level jobs—exactly. Christopher S. Penn – 19:34 We saw, what was it, the National Labor Relations Board publish something a couple months ago saying that the unemployment rate for new college graduates is something 60% higher than the rest of the workforce because all the entry-level jobs have been consumed. Katie Robbert – 19:46 Right. I did a talk earlier this year at WPI—that’s Worcester Polytech in Massachusetts—through the Women in Data Science organization. We were answering questions basically like this about the future of work for AI. At a technical college, there are a lot of people who are studying engineering, there are a lot of people who are studying software development. That was one of the first questions: “I’m about to get my engineering degree, I’m about to get my software development degree. What am I supposed to do?” My response to that is, you still need to understand how the thing works. We were talking about this in our AI for Analytics workshop yesterday that we gave here at Macon. In order to do coding in generative AI effectively, you have to understand the software development life cycle. Katie Robbert – 20:39 There is still a need for the expertise. People are asking, “What do I do?” Focus on becoming an expert. Focus on really mastering the thing that you’re passionate about, the thing that you want to learn about. You’ll be the one teaching the AI, setting up the AI, consulting with the people who are setting up the AI. There’ll be plenty of practitioners who can push the buttons and set up agents, but they still need the experts to tell them what it’s supposed to do and what the output’s supposed to be. Christopher S. Penn – 21:06 Do you see—this is kind of a trick question—do you see the machines consuming that expertise? Katie Robbert – 21:15 Oh, sure. But this is where we go back to what we were talking about: the more people, the more group think—which I hate that term—but the more group think you introduce, the more nuanced it is. When you and I sit down, for example, when we actually have five minutes to sit down and talk about the future of our business, where we want to go or what we’re working on today, the amount of information we can iterate on because we know each other so well and almost don’t have to speak in complete sentences and just can sort of pick up what the other person is thinking. Or I can look at something you’re writing and say, “Hey, I had an idea about that.” We can do that as humans because we know each other so well. Katie Robbert – 21:58 I don’t think—and you’re going to tell me this is going to happen—unless we can actually plug or forge into our brains and download all of the things. That’s never going to happen. Even if we build Katie GPT and Chris GPT and have them talk to each other, they’re never going to brainstorm the way you and I brainstorm in real life. Especially if you give me a whiteboard. I’m good. I’m going to get so much done. Christopher S. Penn – 22:25 For people who are in their career right now, what do they do? You can tell somebody, “You need to be a good critical thinker, a creative thinker, a contextual thinker. You need to know where your data lives and things like that.” But the technology is advancing at such a fast rate. I talk about this in the workshops that we do—which, by the way, Trust Insights is offering workshops at your company, if we like one. But one of the things to talk about is, say, with the model’s acceleration in terms of growth, they’re growing faster than any technology ever has. They went from face rolling idiot in 2023 right to above PhD level in everything two years later. Christopher S. Penn – 23:13 So the people who, in their career, are looking at this, going, “It’s like a bad Stephen King movie where you see the thing coming across the horizon.” Katie Robbert – 23:22 There is no such thing as a bad Stephen King movie. Sometimes the book is better, but it’s still good. But yes, maybe *Creepshow*. What do you mean in terms of how do they prepare for the inevitable? Christopher S. Penn – 23:44 Prepare for the inevitable. Because to tell somebody, “Yeah, be a critical thinker, be a contextual thinker, be a creative thinker”—that’s good in the abstract. But then you’re like, “Well, my—yeah, my—and my boss says we’re doing a 10% headcount reduction this week.” Katie Robbert – 24:02 This is my personal way of approaching it: you can’t limit yourself to just go, “Okay, think about it. Okay, I’m thinking.” You actually have to educate yourself on a variety of different things. I am a voracious reader. I read all the time when I’m not working. In the past three weeks, I’ve read four books. And they’re not business books; they are fiction books and on a variety of things. But what that does is it keeps my brain active. It keeps my brain thinking. Then I give myself the space and time. When I walk my dog, I sort of process all of it. I think about it, and then I start thinking about, “What are we doing as our company today?” or, “What’s on the task list?” Katie Robbert – 24:50 Because I’ve expanded my personal horizons beyond what’s right in front of me, I can think about it from the perspective of other people, fictional or otherwise, “How would this person approach it?” or, “What would I do in that scenario?” Even as I’m reading these books, I start to think about myself. I’m like, “What would I do in that scenario? What would I do if I was finding myself on a road trip with a cannibal who, at the end of the road trip, was likely going to consume all of me, including my bones?” It was the last book I read, and it was definitely not what I thought I was signing up for. But you start to put yourself in those scenarios. Katie Robbert – 25:32 That’s what I personally think unlocks the critical thinking, because you’re not just stuck in, “Okay, I have a math problem. I have 1 + 1.” That’s where a lot of people think critical thinking starts and ends. They think, “Well, if I can solve that problem, I’m a critical thinker.” No, there’s only one way to solve that problem. That’s it. I personally would encourage people to expand their horizons, and this comes through having hobbies. You like to say that you work 24/7. That’s not true. You have hobbies, but they’re hobbies that help you be creative. They’re hobbies that help you connect with other people so that you can have those shared experiences, but also learn from people from different cultures, different backgrounds, different experiences. Katie Robbert – 26:18 That’s what’s going to help you be a stronger, fitable thinker, because you’re not just thinking about it from your perspective. Christopher S. Penn – 26:25 Switching gears, what was missing, what’s been missing, and what is absent from this show in the AI space? I have an answer, but I want to hear yours. Katie Robbert – 26:36 Oh, boy. Really putting me on the spot here. I know what is missing. I don’t know. I’m going to think about it, and I am going to get back to you. As we all know, I am not someone who can think on my feet as quickly as you can. So I will take time, I will process it, but I will come back to you. What do you think is missing? Christopher S. Penn – 27:07 One of the things that is a giant blind spot in the AI space right now is it is a very Western-centric view. All the companies say OpenAI and Anthropic and Google and Meta and stuff like that. Yet when you look at the leaderboards online of whose models are topping the charts—Cling Wan, Alibaba, Quinn, Deepseek—these are all Chinese-made models. If you look at the chip sets being used, the government of China itself just issued an edict: “No more Nvidia chips. We are going to use Huawei Ascend 920s now,” which are very good at what they do. And the Chinese models themselves, these companies are just giving them away to the world. Christopher S. Penn – 27:54 They’re not trying to lock you in like a ChatGPT is. The premise for them, for basically the rest of the world that is in America, is, “Hey, you could take American AI where you’re locked in and you’re gonna spend more and more money, or here’s a Chinese model for free and you can build your national infrastructure on the free stuff that we’re gonna give you.” I’ve seen none of that here. That is completely absent from any of the discussions about what other nations are doing with AI. The EU has Mistral and Black Forest Labs, Sub-Saharan Africa has Lilapi AI. Singapore has Sea Lion, Korea has LG, the appliance maker, and their models. Of course, China has a massive footprint in the space. I don’t see that reflected anywhere here. Christopher S. Penn – 28:46 It’s not in the conversations, it’s not in the hallways, it’s not on stage. And to me, that is a really big blind spot if you think—as many people do—that that is your number one competitor on the world stage. Katie Robbert – 28:57 Why do you think? Christopher S. Penn – 29:01 That’s a very complicated question. But it involves racism, it involves a substantial language barrier, it involves economics. When your competitor is giving away everything for free, you’re like, “Well, let’s just pretend they’re not there because we don’t want to draw any attention to them.” And it is also a deep, deep-seated fear. When you look at all of the papers that are being submitted by Google and Facebook and all these other different companies and you look at the last names of the principal investigators and stuff, nine out of 10 times it’s a name that’s coded as an ethnic Chinese name. China produces more PhDs than I think America produces students, just by population dynamics alone. You have this massive competitor, and it almost feels like people just want to put their heads in the sand and say they’re not there. Christopher S. Penn – 30:02 It’s like the boogeyman, they’re not there. And yet if we’re talking about the deployment of AI globally, the folks here should be aware that is a thing that is not just the Sam Alton Show. Katie Robbert – 30:18 I think perhaps then, as we’re talking about the future of work and big companies, small companies, mid-sized companies, this goes sort of back to what I was saying: you need to expand your horizons of thinking. “Well, we’re a domestic company. Why do I need to worry about what China’s doing?” Take a look at your tech stack, and where are those software packages created? Who’s maintaining them? It’s probably not all domestic; it’s probably more of a global firm than you think you are. But we think about it in terms of who do we serve as customers, not what we are using internally. We know people like Paul has talked about operating systems, Ginny Dietrich has talked about operating systems. Katie Robbert – 31:02 That’s really sort of where you have to start thinking more globally in terms of, “What am I actually bringing into my organization?” Not just my customer base, not just the markets that I’m going after, not just my sales team territories, but what is actually powering my company. That’s, I think, to your point—that’s where you can start thinking more globally even if your customer base isn’t global. That might theoretically help you with that critical thinking to start expanding beyond your little homogeneous bubble. Christopher S. Penn – 31:35 Even something like this has been a topic in the news recently. Rare earth minerals, which are not rare, they’re actually very commonplace. There’s just not much of them in any one spot. But China is the only economy on the planet that has figured out how to industrialize them safely. They produce 85% of it on the planet. And that powers your smartphone, that powers your refrigerator, your car and, oh by the way, all of the AI chips. Even things like that affect the future of work and the future of AI because you basically have one place that has a monopoly on this. The same for the Netherlands. The Netherlands is the only country on the planet that produces a certain kind of machine that is used to create these chips for AI. Christopher S. Penn – 32:17 If that company goes away or something, the planet as a whole is like, “Well, I figured they need to come up with an alternative.” So to your point, we have a lot of these choke points in the AI value chain that could be blockers. Again, that’s not something that you hear. I’ve not heard that at any conference. Katie Robbert – 32:38 As we’re thinking about the future of work, which is what we’re talking about on today’s podcast at Macon, 1,500 people in Cleveland. I guarantee they’re going to do it again next year. So if you’re not here this year, definitely sign up for next year. Take a look at the Smarter X and their academy. It’s all good stuff, great people. I think—and this was the question Paul was asking in his keynote—”Where do we go from here?” The— Katie Robbert – 33:05 The atmosphere. Yes. We don’t need—we don’t need to start singing. I do not need. With more feeling. I do get that reference. You’re welcome. But one of the key takeaways is there are more questions than answers. You and I are asking each other questions, but there are more questions than answers. And if we think we have all of the answers, we’re wrong. We have the answers that are sufficient enough for today to keep our business moving forward. But we have to keep asking new questions. That also goes into that critical thinking. You need to be comfortable not knowing. You need to be comfortable asking questions, and you need to be comfortable doing that research and seeking it out and maybe getting it wrong, but then continuing to learn from it. Christopher S. Penn – 33:50 And the future of work, I mean, it really is a very cloudy crystal wall. We have no idea. One of the things that Paul pointed out really well was you have different scaling laws depending on where you are in AI. He could have definitely spent some more time on that, but I understand it was a keynote, not a deep dive. There’s more to that than even that. And they do compound each other, which is what’s creating this ridiculously fast pace of AI evolution. There’s at least one more on the way, which means that the ability for these tools to be superhuman across tasks is going to be here sooner than people think. Paul was saying by 2026, 2027, that’s what we’ll start to see. Robotics, depends on where you are. Christopher S. Penn – 34:41 What’s coming out of Chinese labs for robots is jaw dropping. Katie Robbert – 34:45 I don’t want to know. I don’t want to know. I’ve seen *Ex Machina*, and I don’t want to know. Yeah, no. To your point, I think a lot of people bury their head in the sand because of fear. But in order to, again, it sort of goes back to that critical thinking, you have to be comfortable with the uncomfortable. I’m sort of joking: “I don’t want to know. I’ve seen *Ex Machina*.” But I do want to know. I do need to know. I need to understand. Do I want to be the technologist? No. But I need to play with these tools enough that I feel I understand how they work. Yesterday I was playing in Opal. I’m going to play in N8N. Katie Robbert – 35:24 It’s not my primary function, but it helps me better understand where you’re coming from and the questions that our clients are asking. That, in a very simple way to me, is the future of work: that at least I’m willing to stretch myself and keep exploring and be uncomfortable so that I can say I’m not static. Christopher S. Penn – 35:46 I think one of the things that 3M was very well known for in the day was the 20% rule, where an employee, as part of their job, could have 20% of the time just work on side projects related to the company. That’s how Post-it Notes got invented, I think. I think in the AI forward era that we’re in, companies do need to make that commitment again to the 20% rule. Not necessarily just messing around, but specifically saying you should be spending 20% of your time with AI to figure out how to use it, to figure out how to do some of those tasks yourself, so that instead of being replaced by the machine, you’re the one who’s at least running the machine. Because if you don’t do that, then the person in the next cubicle will. Christopher S. Penn – 36:33 And then the company’s like, “Well, we used to have 10 people, we only need two. And you’re not one of the two who has figured out how to use this thing to do that. So out you go.” Katie Robbert – 36:41 I think that was what Paul was doing in his AI for Productivity workshop yesterday, was giving people the opportunity to come up with those creative ideas. Our friend Andy Crestadino was relaying a story yesterday to us of a very similar vein where someone was saying, “I’ll give you $5,000. Create whatever you want.” And the thing that the person created was so mind-blowing and so useful that he was like, “Look what happens when I just let people do something creative.” But if we bring it sort of back whole circle, what’s the motivation? Why are people doing it in the first place? Katie Robbert – 37:14 It has to be something that they’re passionate about, and that’s going to really be what drives the future of work in terms of being able to sustain while working alongside AI, versus, “This is all I know how to do. This is all I ever want to know how to do.” Yes, AI is going over your job. Christopher S. Penn – 37:33 So I guess wrapping up, we definitely want you thinking creatively, critically, contextually. Know where your data is, know where your ideas come from, broaden your horizons so that you have more ideas, and be able to be one of the people who knows how to call BS on the machines and say, “That’s completely wrong, ChatGPT.” Beyond that, everyone has an obligation to try to replace themselves with the machines before someone else does it to you. Katie Robbert – 38:09 I think again, to plug Macon, which is where we are as we’re recording this episode, this is a great starting point for expanding your horizons because the amount of people that you get to network with are from different companies, different experiences, different walks of life. You can go to the sessions, learn it from their point of view. You can listen to Paul’s keynote. If you think you already know everything about your job, you’re failing. Take the time to learn where other people are coming from. It may not be immediately relevant to you, but it could stick with you. Something may resonate, something might spark a new idea. Katie Robbert – 38:46 I feel like we’re pretty far along in our AI journey, but in sitting in Paul’s keynote, I had two things that stuck out to me: “Oh, that’s a great idea. I want to go do that.” That’s great. I wouldn’t have gotten that otherwise if I didn’t step out of my comfort zone and listen to someone else’s point of view. That’s really how people are going to grow, and that’s that critical thinking—getting those shared experiences and getting that brainstorming and just community. Christopher S. Penn – 39:12 Exactly. If you’ve got some thoughts about how you are approaching the future of work, pop on by our free Slack group. Go to trust insights AI analysts for marketers, where you and over 4,500 other marketers are asking and answering each other’s questions every single day. Wherever you watch or listen to the show, if there’s a channel you’d rather have it on instead, go to Trust Insights AI Ti Podcast, where you can find us all the places fine podcasts are served. Thanks for tuning in. I’ll talk to you on the next one. Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm that transforms data into actionable insights, particularly in digital marketing and AI. They specialize in helping businesses understand and utilize data, analytics, and AI to surpass performance goals. 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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Jason Bietz/CEO, Expert Investigation Group was falsely identified in a federal investigation into a sea lion decapitation. NOAA posted his photo, then retracted it after confirming no marine mammal parts were removed and the sea lion was not decapitated. Bietz says a sarcastic remark and miscommunication led to the ordeal, which he’s now fighting to clear. Please Like, Comment and Follow 'Broeske & Musson' on all platforms: --- The ‘Broeske & Musson Podcast’ is available on the KMJNOW app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever else you listen to podcasts. --- ‘Broeske & Musson' Weekdays 9-11 AM Pacific on News/Talk 580 AM & 105.9 FM KMJ | Facebook | Podcast| X | - Everything KMJ KMJNOW App | Podcasts | Facebook | X | Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jason Bietz/CEO, Expert Investigation Group in Hanford was falsely identified in a federal investigation into a sea lion decapitation. NOAA posted his photo, then retracted it after confirming no marine mammal parts were removed and the sea lion was not decapitated. Bietz says a sarcastic remark and miscommunication led to the ordeal, which he’s now fighting to clear. Please Like, Comment and Follow 'Broeske & Musson' on all platforms: --- The ‘Broeske & Musson Podcast’ is available on the KMJNOW app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever else you listen to podcasts. --- ‘Broeske & Musson' Weekdays 9-11 AM Pacific on News/Talk 580 AM & 105.9 FM KMJ | Facebook | Podcast| X | - Everything KMJ KMJNOW App | Podcasts | Facebook | X | Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Fluent Fiction - Catalan: Intern Heroics: Sea Lion Escapades at Barcelona Aquarium Find the full episode transcript, vocabulary words, and more:fluentfiction.com/ca/episode/2025-09-26-07-38-20-ca Story Transcript:Ca: El sol brillava sobre la façana de vidre de l'Aquàrium de Barcelona.En: The sun shone on the glass facade of the Aquàrium de Barcelona.Ca: L'interior estava ple de gent: famílies, grups d'escolars i turistes fascinats pel món submarí.En: The interior was full of people: families, groups of schoolchildren, and tourists fascinated by the underwater world.Ca: Júlia estava allà, amb els ulls brillants plens d'entusiasme.En: Júlia was there, her eyes bright with enthusiasm.Ca: Era el seu primer dia com a estudiant en pràctiques.En: It was her first day as an intern.Ca: Pau, el seu supervisor, semblava una mica despistat aquell dia.En: Pau, her supervisor, seemed a bit distracted that day.Ca: Portava massa papers a les mans i no sabia on havia deixat el seu cafè.En: He carried too many papers in his hands and didn't know where he had left his coffee.Ca: Al seu costat, Xavi, un turista amb ganes de passar-ho bé, ja estava preparat amb el mòbil per fer-se selfies.En: Beside him, Xavi, a tourist eager for a good time, was already ready with his phone to take selfies.Ca: De sobte, es va sentir un crit: "El lleó marí!En: Suddenly, a shout was heard: "The sea lion!Ca: S'ha escapat!".En: It's escaped!Ca: Enmig del caos, un jove lleó marí havia trobat la porta oberta del seu tanc.En: In the midst of the chaos, a young sea lion had found the door of its tank open.Ca: Amb un mig rodolí, mig salt, es movia entre els visitants sorpresos, creant una barreja de rialles i crits.En: With a half-roll, half-jump, it moved among the surprised visitors, creating a mix of laughter and shouts.Ca: Júlia va veure la cara de pànic a Pau i va saber que havia de fer alguna cosa.En: Júlia saw the panic on Pau's face and knew she had to do something.Ca: Va recordar les classes sobre el comportament dels lleons marins.En: She remembered the lessons about sea lion behavior.Ca: "Amanida de peixos!", va pensar.En: "Fish salad!" she thought.Ca: És el menjar preferit del lleó marí.En: It's the sea lion's favorite food.Ca: Va córrer cap al magatzem de menjar i va preparar un plat ple.En: She ran to the food storage and prepared a full dish.Ca: Mentrestant, el lleó marí es dirigia cap al recinte dels pingüins.En: Meanwhile, the sea lion headed towards the penguin enclosure.Ca: Xavi, amb el seu mòbil, no deixava de fer fotos de l'animal jugant amb els nens.En: Xavi, with his phone, kept taking pictures of the animal playing with the children.Ca: Júlia va aparèixer prop dels pingüins amb el plat de menjar.En: Júlia appeared near the penguins with the dish of food.Ca: "Ei, valent! Mira què tinc aquí!", va cridar amb veu animada.En: "Hey, brave one! Look what I have here!" she called out in a lively voice.Ca: L'olfacte del lleó marí va detectar el menjar i va començar a seguir-la.En: The sea lion's sense of smell detected the food and started to follow her.Ca: Amb habilitat, Júlia va guiar el lleó marí de tornada cap al seu tanc.En: With skill, Júlia guided the sea lion back to its tank.Ca: La multitud s'havia aglomerat al seu voltant, cada cop més entusiasmada.En: The crowd had gathered around her, increasingly excited.Ca: Júlia, amb un somriure, va posar el menjar dins el tanc i el lleó marí va saltar a dins amb elegància.En: Júlia, with a smile, placed the food inside the tank and the sea lion jumped in with grace.Ca: El públic va esclatar en aplaudiments.En: The audience burst into applause.Ca: Pau, alleujat, va abraçar Júlia i li va dir: "Bon treball, Júlia!En: Pau, relieved, hugged Júlia and said, "Good job, Júlia!Ca: Ara sé que puc comptar amb tu per a més responsabilitats".En: Now I know I can count on you for more responsibilities."Ca: Xavi, amb una selfie guanyadora, va marxar content d'haver capturat l'incident amb humor.En: Xavi, with a winning selfie, left happy to have captured the incident with humor.Ca: Júlia se sentia satisfeta i més segura de si mateixa.En: Júlia felt satisfied and more confident.Ca: Aquell dia va aprendre que podia resoldre qualsevol emergència amb rapidesa i determinació.En: That day she learned she could handle any emergency quickly and with determination.Ca: Havia superat el seu primer repte, i el mar era, més que mai, el seu escenari per a noves aventures.En: She had overcome her first challenge, and the sea was, more than ever, her stage for new adventures. Vocabulary Words:the sea lion: el lleó maríthe facade: la façanato escape: escapar-sethe tank: el tancthe chaos: el caosthe intern: l'estudiant en pràctiquesdistracted: despistatto guide: guiarthe enclosure: el recinteto capture: capturareager: amb ganesthe applause: els aplaudimentsthe challenge: el repteenthusiasm: l'entusiasmeto shout: cridarthe visitor: el visitantto prepare: prepararthe crowd: la multitudto hug: abraçarto overcome: superarthe audience: el públicrelieved: alleujatto fascinate: fascinarthe incident: l'incidentdetermination: la determinacióthe emergency: l'emergènciato burst: esclatarthe penguin: el pingüíthe food storage: el magatzem de menjarto detect: detectar

In the aftermath of Battle of Britain Day, both sides struggled to understand what had really changed in the aerial war over Britain. While the Luftwaffe leadership blamed their fighter pilots for the costly losses on September 15th, faulty intelligence drastically underestimated RAF strength at just 177 fighters when the actual number was 659—a miscalculation that would prove decisive. As the German high command faced the reality that their air campaign had failed to achieve air superiority, the logistical challenges of Operation Sea Lion became insurmountable, from RAF Bomber Command's devastating "Battle of the Barges" to the impossible timeline for moving armored divisions across the Channel. On September 17th, Hitler quietly postponed the invasion—not with fanfare, but with a bureaucratic whimper that effectively ended Germany's hopes of conquering Britain in 1940. The final daylight raids of September would see the Luftwaffe's grand campaign dissolve into desperate, costly attacks that only confirmed Fighter Command's continued strength, marking the end of one of history's most crucial air battles. Contact advertising@airwavemedia.com to advertise on History of the Second World War. History of the Second World War is part of the Airwave Media podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On September 15, 1940—Battle of Britain Day—the Luftwaffe launched what would become the climactic daylight assault of their campaign against Britain. In a desperate final effort to enable Operation Sea Lion, the German invasion of Britain, over 500 bombers escorted by hundreds of fighters targeted London's railways and dockyards in two massive raids. However, RAF Fighter Command rose to meet them with unprecedented coordination, deploying every available squadron in a series of perfectly timed intercepts that turned the skies above London into absolute mayhem. Despite wildly exaggerated victory claims on both sides, the day's fighting proved that Fighter Command was far from the spent force the Germans had hoped, while the Luftwaffe's mounting losses and fuel limitations exposed the futility of their campaign. As weather closed in and Hitler postponed Sea Lion indefinitely, September 15th marked not just the end of the daytime Battle of Britain, but the beginning of a new phase—the Blitz. Contact advertising@airwavemedia.com to advertise on History of the Second World War. History of the Second World War is part of the Airwave Media podcast network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the summer of 1940, Britain was on its knees. The British Expeditionary Force had fled from mainland Europe in humiliation, and Nazi Germany eyed the South East of England greedily. All that stood between Hitler and his SS marching up the Mall was a thin strip of English channel. My guest today is Alex Gerlis who has written The Second Traitor, a novel set in those dark days of the first year of the war. We talk about the Operation Sea Lion, its likelihood, and Nazi sympathisers in both Britain and Ireland. Alex Gerlis Links The Second Traitor Previous episode discussing Every Spy a Traitor Aspects of History Links Latest Issue out - Annual Subscription to Aspects of History Magazine only $9.99/£9.99 Ollie on X Aspects of History on Instagram Get in touch: history@aspectsofhistory.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Vessel-whale collisions are a significant concern in Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve, where nutrient-rich waters support a seasonal influx of humpback whales and other marine mammals. As one of the most visited marine parks in Alaska, Glacier Bay sees a high volume of vessel traffic, including cruise ships, tour boats, and private craft. This summer an adult humpback whale was seen with a fresh, one-foot gash behind its dorsal fin which appeared to be from contact with a boat propeller.  This week the Traveler's Lynn Riddick reaches out to biologist Chris Gabriele to discuss this incident and the park's strategies to reduce whale collisions, including monitoring whale activity, warning systems, and public education. 

A heartless and disturbing trend is how an animal welfare trust is describing the killings of three more sealions. Oamaru police are investigating after three endangered sea lions were shot at the mouth of the Waitaki River on Saturday. Two were found dead and the third had to be euthanised because of its injuries. Waitaki Police Sergeant Tony Woodbridge spoke to Lisa Owen.

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A deadly disease affecting sea lions along California's Central Coast has sparked concern from wildlife experts. And, California Attorney General Rob Bonta says his office has restored $168 billion in federal funds to the state by suing the Trump administration.

Brandon Ware is a professional fishing guide by trade. The lifelong Alaskan is also part Tlingit Indian which allows him to bypass the Marine Mammals Protection Act and actively participate in the hunting and harvest of sea otters, seals and sea lions. I came across Brandon after seeing a photo of him with a massive [...]

What's a veterinarian's view on dog training methods? And if your pet is terrified of going to the vet, how can they help? We find out from an amazing veterinarian, Dr. Adrian Walton of Dewdney Animal Hospital in Maple Ridge, BC.We talked about:Dr. Walton's position on dog training methods, and his experience of so-called “balanced” trainersHow he trained sealions at the Toronto Zoo with a whistle and a bucket of fishHow a large lizard ended up at his clinic and what his technician taught the Nile monitor to doHow we know that lizards can countThe difference that medication can make for pets who are scared at the vetHow pain can affect pets' behaviourWhat it's like working with exotic animalsThe best pet to get for your kidAnd Dr. Walton recommends the books he's been readingThe books:Invertebrate Medicine by Gregory A LewbartBoat Camping in Haida Gwaii by Neil FrazerDr. Adrian Walton is the owner of Dewdney Animal Hospital in Maple Ridge, BC. He's a graduate of University of Guelph and has degrees in Marine Biology from Dalhousie University and a Masters Degree from Simon Fraser University. Prior to moving to Maple Ridge he was an emergency veterinarian in Seattle. His area of interest is exotic animal medicine and spends a lot of his spare time helping abandoned and neglected reptiles and exotics find forever homes.Website: https://dewdneyvet.com/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Dewdneyvet/Look out for the lizard training videos, coming soon on companionanimalpsychology.com which is also where you will find a transcript for this episode. You can watch a clip of the lizard following a target stick here: https://youtu.be/OunQ-vmtw28 The video is courtesy of Dr. Adrian Walton.Send us a text to say hello!About the co-hosts: Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist. Kristi Benson's website Facebook Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat. Instagram BlueSky

On a spontaneous whim one rainy Saturday morning, Tom began to read a storybook to me through whatsapp voice notes. A storybook that he had not quite got round to reading before. You know the type - you skim the illustrations, grab it on impulse, then on returning home it sits patiently in the ‘waiting pile', sighing to itself at the wonder the book knows it contains within its interior. And oh my, what a storybook it was! I argued with it, questioned it, took offence to it and peered dubiously at it. I also marvelled at it, gasped with awe at it, surrendered with delight to it and ultimately fell into a spellbound swoon. How could I not want to share such a tale and such a teller with you! So, here for your listening pleasure is the story of Eemook as read by Tom… Eemook's story is from The Sea Lion written by master storyteller Ken Kesey and illustrated by Neal Waldman, published in 1991. It is described by the publishers as an original tale that takes its inspiration from the Indigenous Peoples of the Pacific Northwest. The Peoples include the Chinook, Salish, Coast Salish, Kwakwaka'wakw and the Tlingit. More information can be found at https://www.nativehistory.info/pacific-northwest-native-tribes-culture/ And as an extra bonus I wanted to share a stunning short film by Jules Guerin entitle A Shaman's Tale - https://julesguerin.tv/a-shamans-tale Tom lives in a small cottage in the Bay Area of California where he designs and maintains gnome friendly gardens that incorporate native plants, which are also friendly toward birds and bees. He is a part time astrologer who loves viewing the night sky from the desert. His recent interest in giving voice to story has emerged along with a rekindled interest in song. It has been helped along from having had the events of his life lovingly mirrored back to him as story, and the gentle encouragement of his uncensored voice. Find out more about his interactions with the plant people at tegardendesign.com With love Elizabeth of the Faerytale Apothecary

Dateline: July 11, 2025. Rossifari Zoo News is back with a round up of the latest news in the world of zoos, aquariums, conservation, and animal weirdness!   We start off with a quick catch up on me. Then it's time for our headline story featuring the story of a sea turtle who has been released into the ocean after 41 years in human care. We then move on to our births for the week, featuring animals from Tanganyika, Hogle Zoo, Adelaide Zoo, Exmoor Zoo, and the Fort Worth Zoo.We then say goodbye to animals from the San Francisco Zoo, Werribee Open Range Zoo, and Marwell Zoo.We have additional Zoo News stories from The Darling Downs Zoo, Shedd Aquarium, and two stories from the Cincinnati Zoo. Conservation News stories include another new Marine Refuge Area and a new species of frog!And in Other News, we have some fascinating legislation out of Switzerland, a discussion of the self-awareness of ants, and a metronomic sea lion!ROSSIFARI LINKS: patreon.com/rossifari to support the pod rossifari.com @rossifari on socials @rossifaripod on TikTok 

It's been revealed a third Sea Lion killed in the Catlins was likely stabbed by a human. Now a reward for information leading to the killers convictions has been more than doubled to twelve thousand dollars thanks to donations. A baby female Sea Lion was shot and left to die in the Catlins Estuary in the lower South Island in September last year. The following month the pup's mum was found shot dead. A third sealion had to be euthanised in November after she was found badly injured at Waipati Beach. The NZ Sea Lion Trust's Jordana Whyte spoke to Lisa Owen.

This week the ACP take to the stars and find out how Buck Rogers is once again hitting the pages of comics! Now a public domain entity and shepherded in a new book by Allan and Ben Liska (Green Archer Comics), not only is it the perfect time to talk about this much overlooked and influential character but a perfect time to find out how working with public domain characters. From badly-aged beginnings to the massive influence to pop culture sci-fi, its a fascinating conversation about how to re-energise a classic. All that and a discussion about over the top 80s movie culture, marzipan, pizza cutting and brilliant (and sometimes disturbing) comics! Great stuff to check out: Buck Rogers, Buck Rogers vs the Cyber Lords, Green Archer Comics, Galaxy Grappling Alliance, ArtNineTwo, Rory Donald, Space Boy and the Future King, Steak: Rare, Never Iron Anything, Jonny Cannon, Dipladocus and Sea Lion, Open Caskets, Rasp, Spearpoint, Night Vision, Side Questers, Dire Wolff Comix, Dan Wolff, 2Morrows Publishing, Back Issue, Alter Ego, Kirby Collector, Beautiful Monster, Maruo Suehiro, Bubbles, Lords on the Piss, The Once and Future, Serial Hunter, Aaron Rackley, GI Joe,

AGREE TO DISAGREE: The Shilshole sea lion invasion // Pet pigs in Tacoma // $4,000 baby body wraps // Buy Nothing // Would you let AI teach your child? // WE HEAR YOU! and WORDS TO LIVE BY

Want to know how to deal with writers block? Do you think that the big 2 will ever cease to exist? Ever wondered what happens when 3 lifelong comic fans and forced to choose which of their collection to keep and which to lose? All that and more are discussed in this weeks round of comic book chatter that was born from the ACP community. The chat gets deep, thought provoking and sure to get you talking yourself, but don't worry... there's also plenty of stupid laughs along the way as well! Great stuff to check out: Oddly Compelling: The Dennis Kitchen Story, Sam Hardacre, Acid Box, Avery Hill Publishing, Romo the Wolf Boy, Ilya, Macc Pow, Banana Man, The Santos Sisters, Cutaway Comics, Unhappily Ever After, Dipladocus and Sea Lion, Faster Than Light, Sarah Cooke, Paradox, Fleshdigger, Monster Forge Productions, Coffin Knockers, Early Worm Comics, Lance Goiter Comics

Three hosts. Three questions. Three hot topics of debate. From the world of celebrity comics to classic books that just don't connect with you, this week the ACP are talking about plenty of fun comics based chat and having fun as they do so. Alongside that is a raft (other floating devices are available) of indie comics to check out and an exciting on air opening of a special edition comics pack! Great stuff to check out: Acid Box, Avery Hill Publishing, Blags Boys Big Book of Comics, Romo the Wolf Boy, Cutaway Comics, The Santos Sisters, Dipladocus and Sea Lion, Pat Mills, The Soul-D, Nick Bryan, Stone Cop, Tribute Press, Lawless Comic Con 2025, Archers Comics, Battle Beast, Robert Kirkman, Ryan Ottley, The Jump, Wesley Griffith, Alien Armageddon: 1944, Dren Productions, Two Wrongs Make a Wrong, Dan Hughes,

Meet Ronan the sea lion - whose sense of rhythm is proving better than some humans and delighting scientists. She bops perfectly in time to rock, and techno, but her first love is disco. - ‘सी लायन' रोननको ताल समात्ने क्षमता, केही मानिसहरूभन्दा पनि राम्रो साबित हुँदै गर्दा वैज्ञानिकहरूलाई अचम्मित बनाइरहेको छ। उनी रक र टेक्नो सङ्गीतमा पूर्ण रूपमा तालमा झुम्छिन्, तर उनको पहिलो प्रेम भने डिस्को सङ्गीत हो।

Ronan the Sea Lion – perhaps the best beat-keeper on the planet? We've got the fascinating details. A new drone mimics the flying squirrel, which could be a game-changer for robots ability to navigate highly congested spaces. And on This Day in History, the story of Mary Kies – the first woman to receive a patent in the US. This adorable bopping sea lion can probably hold a beat better than you This Flying Squirrel Drone Can Brake in Midair and Outsmart Obstacles 1st woman US patent holder - Mary Dixon Kies in 1809 May 5: Mary Kies Becomes First Woman to Receive a U.S. Patent Patented Straw Weaving Technique Contact the show: coolstuffcommute@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Music has been a common feature across almost all human civilisations, but do other animals share the same love? Meet Ronan the sea lion - whose sense of rhythm is proving better than some humans and delighting scientists. She bops perfectly in time to rock, and techno, but her first love is disco.

What's the difference between seals and sea lions? Do seals bark? Are they gray? Do harbor seals live in snowy regions? Why do sea lions eat fish? Why do sea lions fight each other? Seals and sea lions are pinnipeds, fin-footed marine mammals, and we're learning all about them today with a visit to the Marine Mammal Center in Sausalito, California, where marine biologist Adam Ratner answers all your pinniped questions!Download our learning guides: PDF | Google Slide | TranscriptYou can watch the sea lions at San Francisco's Pier 39 no matter where you live by checking out the live stream at pier39.com/sealions!

I hope you enjoy this interview with THE ONE and only, Bryan Martin, Sea Lion Bryan Schedule a discovery call to talk about Your Personal Brand: or visit www.bethanyshipley.com- Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Sealionbryan/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sealionbryan/?hl=enhttps://www.sealionbryan.com/

In Season 2, Episode 2, Mark Graban and Jamie Flinchbaugh begin with Mark sharing about his Australia and New Zealand workshop tour with the Association for Manufacturing Excellence. Even koalas find their way into the conversation. Episode page with videos and more We then shift to our coffee selection of the day - pour overs. This old school method has found a resurgence not for being inexpensive but for giving you more control over the extraction process making it the best method for the best coffees. Jamie explains and demonstrates the process with enough details to get you going.  We then get to our main topics, beginning with some interesting statistics. 80% of Americans believe we'd be better off with more people working in manufacturing, but 25% of them believe that they would be better off if they worked in manufacturing. Whether skilled trades or engineers, we discuss why jobs in manufacturing are still getting a bad wrap. Continuing with manufacturing, we discuss the possible defunding and impact of the Manufacturing Extension Partnerships, a nationwide network of support centers for small- and medium-sized manufacturing businesses, which gets a significant amount of their funding from the National Institute of Standards and Technology.  Boeing is announcing a new, or refreshed, culture in an effort to turn the company around from a seemingly never-ending parade of crisis issues over several years. Are declarations of values enough? Do they need to be better defined? How do you back them up? We discuss all of this, including a mention of Jamie's video course on culture change. While discussing blue chip names, this is the 40th anniversary of New Coke, an introduction that was likely never needed. Was it a mistake, and how do you recover when the product and the brand is this iconic? We do not include a taste test of New Coke or Coke Classic. Links From the Show: Reflections from Mark's world tour  Pour over methods explained by coffee expert James Hoffman  The Chemex and V60, two popular pour over options  Manufacturing Extension Partnerships and their role supporting small manufacturers, their potential defunding written about by IndustryWeek, Manufacturing Dive, and an Op-Ed by the Urban Manufacturing Alliance  Being is resetting their culture  Jamie's Learning Lab course on shaping culture  40 Years Ago, New Coke was introduced, and Mark's take on the mistake Watch The Americas with Tom Hanks and Sea Lions of the Galapagos Podcast feed at LeanCoffeeTalk.com or jflinch.com/leancoffeetalk Please review us and follow! Please review us and follow or subscribe on your favorite podcast platform! 

You've probably heard ... that Sea Lions on the West Coast are going crazy.  Crawling up on the beaches and attacking people.  It's getting worse. ABC News Correspondent Alex Stone is live in LA.

In this episode, I sit down with Emanuel Williams, an avid jet ski fisherman and social media creator, to discuss his unique journey in the fishing world.  Emanuel shares how his passion for fishing developed from childhood outings with his dad in Florida to adventurous deep-sea escapades on a SeaDoo.  We dive into his incredible experiences, including catching giant fish like swordfish and cobias, exploring The Bahamas, and navigating the challenges of offshore fishing.  Emanuel also talks about his social media journey, favorite platforms, and future plans, including his new 27-foot Sea Lion boat. Don't miss this exciting and insightful conversation with one of the most innovative fishing content creators around! 00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:18 Early Fishing Adventures 00:36 Jet Ski Fishing Journey Begins 01:09 Growing Up in Florida 01:25 Fishing with Family 02:57 Offshore Fishing Challenges 05:12 Safety Measures and Close Calls 10:07 Fishing in The Bahamas 20:03 Social Media Journey 28:55 Full-Time Content Creation 32:52 Managing the Business Side of Fishing 33:24 Lobster Mac and Cheese Recipe 34:59 Origins of 'I Belong Outdoors' 35:48 New Boat and Future Adventures 37:15 Fishing in The Bahamas 37:47 Diving and Fishing Preferences 39:36 Fishing in Louisiana 43:12 International Fishing Destinations 55:30 Fishing Challenges and Shark Encounters 58:38 Reflections on Fishing and Technology 01:03:21 Social Media and Future Plans

Welcome to The Eagles View!This is where you can listen to the students of Emerson School in Ann Arbor, Michigan soar.  Join fifth graders Aarav and Paul as they host this amazing episode. This week we have This Week in History, Detroit Lions 1991 Spotlight, Michigan Lampreys  and as always "The Joke of the Week".Don't forget to follow, like and share this podcast with everyone you know.When you follow us not only will you hear new episodes of The Eagle's View every Wednesday but also…The Eagle's View Presents every Monday New set of 8th graders who may or may not be on topic this season.New episodes of The Eagle's View will be every week this school year, and even in the summer!"Be sure to check out our new merchandise on The Emerson School Store website below.https://apparelnow.com/emerson-school-store-apparel/Follow on social media too!https://www.facebook.com/theemersonschool/https://www.instagram.com/emersonschool/

American Legion Family Day THE INTERVIEW Navy veteran Vic Martin struggled after suffering a brain injury, receiving mental health diagnoses and being medically retired. After hitting bottom and attempting suicide, Martin now dedicates his life to helping others find their purpose and the mental health care they need. SCUTTLEBUTT World Autism Awareness month: Neurodivergent Veterans Florida American Legion Riders gearing up for massive Boots on the Ground Poker Run Military nicknames - usually born of our less-than-heroic moments Special Guest: Vic Martin.

Highlights of what's new in streaming for the week of April 19, 2025. Hulu Vanderpump Villa, season 2 (Apr. 24) Jessica Kirson: I'm the Man (Apr. 25) Netflix Heavenly Ever After, season 1 (Apr. 19) News Anchor, season 1 (Apr. 19) Pangolin: Kulu's Journey (Apr. 21) Race For the Crown, season 1 (Apr. 22) Bullet Train Explosion (Apr. 23) A Tragedy Foretold: Flight 3054 (Apr. 23) Carlos Alcaraz: My Way (Apr. 23) Battle Camp, season 1 (Apr. 23) UnBroken (Apr. 23) You, season 5 (Apr. 24) A Dog's Way Home (Apr. 24) HAVOC (Apr. 25) Jewel Thief: The Heist Begins (Apr. 25) Pokémon Horizons, season 2, part 2 (Apr. 25) Weak Hero, season 2 (Apr. 25) Disney+ Andor, season 2 (Apr. 22) Guardians of the Galapagos (Apr. 22) Sea Lions of the Galapagos (Apr. 22) Max Companion (Apr. 18) The Rehearsal, season 2 (Apr. 20) Peacock Journey to You (Apr. 20) Prime Video Étoile, season 1 (Apr. 24) Superboys of Malegaon (Apr. 24) Apple TV+ WondLa, season 2 (Apr. 25)

In this episode while the party gets literally grappled they also figuratively grapple with some perplexing topics. Can you jynx someone while you are dead? Can kissing your foe be a useful tactic? And, are conga lines really only for losers? Listen in to find out???Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/role_radio/donations

Sea lions are attacking swimmers in California! Meghan's jam is getting the review treatment. Virginia Roberts Giuffre's story goes from bad to worse. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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At least five international students at UC San Diego face an uncertain future after their F-1 visas were unexpectedly revoked. We're learning that two San Diego based US Customs and Border Protection officers are facing federal charges for allegedly taking bribes to let vehicles with undocumented migrants into the US. Carlsbad police had to rescue a seas lion from a bike lane on Carlsbad Boulevard.   What You Need To Know To Start Your Sunday. 

You won't believe what is lurking in the waters in southern California. (27:01)

WEDNESDAY HR 4 Ray Traendly from TK Law. Breaks down AI law and copywrite. Is it required to have Venmo nowadays? Do you stream movies as back round sound? News From The Headlines Sea Lines getting high?

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E450 Meghan Cleary – I met Meghan at a party and she was introduced to me as a journalist who's an expert in shoes, vaginas, and sea lions. I exclaimed, “Sea lions!” and here we are. Meghan's a thought leader, best-selling author, spokesperson and TV personality. We chat about her experience with a particular Santa […]

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In this episode of In-Ear Insights, the Trust Insights podcast, Katie and Chris discuss offsite optimization for generative AI. You’ll learn how to rethink your offsite SEO strategy to effectively engage with AI models. Discover how to identify the crucial data sources that AI uses to inform its knowledge. You will understand why traditional SEO metrics are becoming less relevant in the age of AI and what truly matters for offsite success. Prepare to revolutionize your PR approach and ensure your brand is recognized by the AI systems shaping the future. Watch now to gain the offsite AI optimization advantage. Watch the video here: Can’t see anything? Watch it on YouTube here. Listen to the audio here: https://traffic.libsyn.com/inearinsights/tipodcast-offsite-optimization-for-generative-ai.mp3 Download the MP3 audio here. Need help with your company’s data and analytics? Let us know! Join our free Slack group for marketers interested in analytics! [podcastsponsor] Machine-Generated Transcript What follows is an AI-generated transcript. The transcript may contain errors and is not a substitute for listening to the episode. Christopher S. Penn – 00:00 In this week’s In Ear Insights, this is week three, part three of our optimizing your content and your marketing for AI. You know, people call it SEO for AI and a variety of tongue twisting acronyms. This week we’re talking about off site, which I feel like is probably the most accessible for folks because it’s the least technical and it is very familiar ground. Off site AI optimization is essentially how can you be in as many places as possible as often as possible so that your name, your brand, and your content are duplicated as many places as AI crawlers grab their data from to build a training dataset library. So Katie, when we talk about going out into the world, what comes to mind for you for making that work and for being as many places as you possibly can be? Katie Robbert – 00:58 You know, it’s funny because you just said something to the effect of it’s the most accessible or it’s the easiest. And I disagree because I feel like it’s the one that’s the least in your control. So, you know, when we talk about off site, we’re talking about getting on lists and guest posts and other people mentioning you. And it’s not enough to just post about yourself on LinkedIn a couple of times a day. Sure, that’s part of it, but that it’s much more than that. And so, when I think about off site, I still think, okay, number one, I still have to have really good content, which is where we started this series that’s useful and appeals to my audience. So you can’t skip that step and suddenly just say, you know what? Katie Robbert – 01:54 I’m gonna get on a bunch of who’s who lists or top 10 lists or whatever, because without that content as your foundation, people don’t know who you are. So I don’t know. I understand what you’re saying. Where it’s the most familiar, maybe the most approachable. I disagree with that. I feel like it’s actually harder than writing your own content because you still have to have that content, but then you have to convince other people that they have to then include your content in their stuff. Christopher S. Penn – 02:32 Okay. I think I was approaching it from the perspective of it requires the least technical knowledge. Katie Robbert – 02:37 Oh, well, sure. Christopher S. Penn – 02:39 Oh, it looks like public relations, which is in fact what it is. It is all about public relations—public relations, media relations, influencer marketing, influencer relations, and so on and so forth at relations to pretty much anything. That’s where this is in terms of what you do. So what you would do is, you know, Katie, we’d try to go out and pitch you as a thought leader in your field and get as many people to cover you as possible. Our friend Nicole Besthard says the trouble with pitching people as thought leaders is they first have to have thoughts that people want to hear. Katie Robbert – 03:18 It’s. But that’s my point is, like, I mean, it’s not just us. How many people get those spammy emails, like, oh, I loved your article about how to churn butter. My CEO would be great for your content if you just want to add this link, like 10 times out of 10, someone’s just pitching because there was some kind of a form or contact link on your website. It doesn’t matter if it matches or not, because they’re hoping that if I pitch a hundred publications or websites, that at least one or two will say yes. Like, to me, that’s not fun, that’s not easy work. And it feels very inconsiderate of the person pitching that they didn’t even bother to do the research to see if it was a good fit. Christopher S. Penn – 04:17 Yep. What’s different for the AI era, it kind of turns PR strategy on its head a bit. In the old days, and you and I did our time the salt lines at a PR firm, we always had people saying, oh, we need to be in tier one publications, we need to be in The New York Times, we need to be in The Wall Street Journal. And what’s kind of amusing about that is that many of those tier one publications have actively blocked AI crawlers from accessing the content—The New York Times in particular—which means that if you go to a search tool like ChatGPT with search enabled, guess who’s not in the results? The New York Times. Which means that if you’re out there pitching The New York Times, you’re not going to be included in that data set. Christopher S. Penn – 04:56 Whereas today, what we would advocate to people is as long as it’s not inappropriate for your business, like The East Peoria Evening News, totally fine. Right? It doesn’t matter that it’s not a huge publication being on Katie Robbert’s personal blog at katierobert.com, totally fine. Even if she’s only got two readers. It’s the machines we’re trying to get content into, not the humans. Katie Robbert – 05:22 So I guess let’s back up a little bit. So how in this modern age off site SEO, you just mentioned The New York Times for example, how does your average marketer get an understanding of what publications are and are not being picked up by generative AI models? Is there a place where they can go to say, okay, The New York Times is out. You know, Boston Globe is in, East Peoria Times is in, but The West Peoria Times is out. Christopher S. Penn – 05:58 One of the easiest things to do is to fire up the deep research tool of the AI of your choice. So this would be things like Deep Seeks web search. This be Grok’s deeper search, Gemini’s deep research, OpenAI’s deep research, Anthropic Claude’s Web Search, and ask not necessarily about you, but to say, for the management consulting industry, which is where Trust Insights operates, who are the top leaders in management consulting for AI? And when what you’re looking for is not the summary, ignore the summary. You’re looking at the sources list because all the deep research tools publish a list of where they got their information. And that is a great starting place to see what are the blogs, what are the forums, where did this tool get its information? And you want to put as few restrictions on it as possible. Christopher S. Penn – 06:50 In fact, you want to give it a very naive prompt like, what are some great websites to read AI news about and see what it comes up with? Because that tells you where the models are grounding their results. And they’re almost all using traditional search from that. So that is a great first step to say, okay, what does the model know about in terms of data sources? And then you and your PR team, your agency, maybe your virtual PR GPT that you put together, whatever the thing is, would look at that list and say, where could we realistically get placed? If you see, oh, it looks like marketingprofs.com is on there, great. Do they accept guest posts? How would you go about figuring that you see The Wall Street Journal? Christopher S. Penn – 07:37 Like, I know, pretty sure that’s going to require a heck of a lot of work. And in the world of AI, all text is equal. So a piece in The Wall Street Journal and a piece on Christopher Penn’s blog have the same weight in a model in terms of their value. If it’s a lot easier to get out of Christopher Penn’s blog than is The Wall Street Journal, spend your time getting onto Christopher Penn’s blog. Katie Robbert – 08:00 So this brings up an interesting question that, you know, a lot of, you know, this was something that I learned about when I started working with you a million years ago at the PR firm was something called Domain Authority. So where does domain—so Domain Authority. My understanding is, you know, the higher the domain authority number on a scale of what, 1 to 100, the more legit, for lack of a scientific term, the website is. So for example, you know, The East Peoria News might have a high domain authority because they just reported report on specific things versus like a BuzzFeed which has like a lot of eyeballs, but their content is crap. Katie Robbert – 08:49 Can you give like a quick, not overly technical explanation of number one, how I got domain authority wrong and what it actually is, but where it fits in to generative AI search? Because that was a big deal for off site SEO for a long time. Christopher S. Penn – 09:08 If I say the word actually, you’re going to slap me. Katie Robbert – 09:10 Yeah, pretty much so. Christopher S. Penn – 09:14 Domain authority is an invented metric. It was first invented by Moz way back in the day and pretty much every SEO tool has their own version and is their best estimate of the probability that your domain will come up in a search. Like if you are searching for management consulting firms, your domain authority would be ours would probably be like 20 and McKinsey would be like 100% of the time he’s going to show up. That was a general idea back then. Domain authority is an estimate because no one could see into Google’s algorithms. No one had any idea what was in the box. So as people’s best guesses based on essentially submitting a lot of searches to Google and then trying to guess how, why does site keep coming up that in AI search is much less relevant? Christopher S. Penn – 10:01 Because AI search has two major components. One is the model’s latent knowledge itself based on the training data that has been trained on and that is all about tonnage. How many mentions of Trust Insights can we get across the web in any source, doesn’t matter where. And then the second is search grounding, which is when you’re using tools that have search grounding enabled, they will verify the knowledge that they’ve come up with from the model with traditional search results. And so domain authority would still have kind of sort of a little bit of usefulness on the grounding portion. Obviously if you show up in traditional search, then for tools that use search grounding, they will be more likely to validate, but they first have to have the idea that you exist from the model itself. Christopher S. Penn – 10:49 So if you want long term staying power, you won’t need to be in the model’s training data. And then if you want to be credible to that, you have to also be in the search grounding. So that when the model says hey, Trust Insights is a really good management consulting company. Let me go check my search results. Yep, Trust Insights is in there. Trust Insights is credible, so you kind of need both. Katie Robbert – 11:10 Okay, so where do—so one of the ways which we typically do our homework, our research on how to approach our off site SEO, our traditional SEO tools such as an AHREFS or SEMrush, where do those tools fit in? Like, what should we be looking for in like an ahrefs in order to figure out. I want to be so—okay, let me back up a little bit. If my user story is as the CMO, I want Trust Insights to heavily appear in OpenAI’s model for search results so that people will hire us. What do I need to do? What do I need to look for in something like an href? So if that’s how I traditionally do my research to figure out my off site strategy. Christopher S. Penn – 12:07 That is. So traditional SEO tools will not help you very much with getting into the model’s training data because it’s just so vast. That’s again more about tonnage. How can you get placed as many places as possible? And we have a whole bag of tricks that we advise clients on that, one of which is a, you want to be on YouTube and B, you want to be on as many podcasts as you possibly can. And when you’re guesting on those podcasts, make sure that you mention your company name as often as you can in relevance. If you hear me on a lot of guest shows, it’ll sound kind of egotistical and obnoxious like, well, I Trust Insights. We do, but it gets it into the transcripts. Where these SEO tools will help is on the traditional search stuff that you still have to maintain. Christopher S. Penn – 12:56 So you would still go into—for example, the AHREFS has its batch comparison analysis tool where you would say, here’s Trust Insights, here’s five competitors. Where do sites, these other site, these five compares, where do they get links where Trust Insights is not getting links? And then you look at the list. Now here’s the flip again. People are still fixated on domain authority, domain score, et cetera, go down to the bottom of the list. As long as it’s not absolute garbage, like you know, someone’s pills, porn, casino site, as long as not absolute garbage. Those sites that are at the bottom of the list, the small blogs, the small podcasts, you’re gonna have a much easier time getting on those. And from a generative AI perspective, they’re just as credible for just getting more of you out there. Katie Robbert – 13:42 Interesting. So that is, you know, for those who want to call me Captain Obvious, that is the reverse strategy that we’ve typically taken because we’ve always looked for highest domain authority, most credible, best in class. And now we’re saying it doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t completely conflicting of your mission and values. Get yourself on there. It doesn’t matter. To your point, if I want to mention Chris Penn on katierobert.com then you’re like, great, I’m winning because I—that’s one more place where I’m at. Even though there’s only one visitor a month to katirobert.com you’re still there. Christopher S. Penn – 14:33 I’m still there. And critically, I’m still there when the AI crawlers stop by and start ingesting your content. We have seen in the news headlines there’s a big scandal over the weekend. Meta gotten a whole bunch of hot water for using the Live Gen database as part of their training data for the Llama models, which Live Gen is a—a huge repository of pretty much every book and publication and academic paper ever published, pirated by enterprising folks in other nations and that don’t have access to Reed Elsevier or Amazon, whatever. So this is huge corpus of pirated text that they didn’t pay for that was used illicitly. But it speaks to the—it speaks to the absolute hunger that AI model makers have for any valid text. Christopher S. Penn – 15:29 So if you can be anywhere, as long as it’s crawlable and it’s available, be everywhere. Be as many places as you can be. Go for those placements that traditional executives would have looked down like, oh, what? Why am I in, you know, Framingham Patch? That’s not going to help our business. Well, now it will. Katie Robbert – 15:53 Well, it doesn’t help if you’re in the Framingham Patch on the police blotter. That certainly does not help anything. Christopher S. Penn – 16:03 No, it does not. Katie Robbert – 16:04 But excuse me, it is going to be really interesting because it’s a whole re education of essentially how PR for the AI age is going to work. And I think that there’s definitely some folks in that space who already understand it, who already get it. But at least in my admittedly limited experience in the PR industry, it’s well behind modern technologies, modern techniques. If you think of that innovation bell curve, they’re sort of, they’re on the laggard side versus the early adopter side. And so I feel like that’s going to be a struggle because it’s the exact opposite of everything that PRofessionals were taught in terms of pitching and coverage and outreach and you know, all those things because now it doesn’t matter. You would think it would be, oh, this makes my job so much easier. Katie Robbert – 17:07 But you first have to unlearn all those things that you have been drilled into your head in terms of what makes good coverage. Not only that, but they then have to communicate to their clients why getting coverage secured in the Framingham Patch is a good thing and not just a waste of time and money. I just, I feel for them. I, oh, that’s a nightmare. Christopher S. Penn – 17:34 One of the biggest secrets, it’s not really a secret, but it’s something that we talk about in our Generative AI for Marketers course and in our keynotes and things like that, is the good old fashioned news release or the old fashioned press release that you put online that has no SEO value. None. It hasn’t had SEO value for 15 years. It does have AI value and the reason is when you put up a news release on a wire service, on a credible wire service, and I believe I’m actually doing a talk with our friends over at Notified about this not too long from now. When you put something on the wire, it gets replicated thousands of times in the back end. Christopher S. Penn – 18:19 If local news outlets were convenience stores, this would be back behind the baked beans in the far corner of the store. No one goes there, but it’s still there. And that many multiple copies of your information, as long as you structure the press release correctly, which is a whole other topic, it benefits you substantially. So that 99 dollars you plopped down for the wire service release, no human’s going to read it. Don’t expect any traffic from it. Expect zero views. You will, if you are doing traditional PR reporting, it will still look embarrassing, but from an AI perspective, you’re going to look at the 500 copies of your news release and go, we won. We’ve gotten 500 copies of our top language that we need models to learn out for in the world for 99 bucks. Katie Robbert – 19:10 I feel like this still falls under the re education bucket. So, you know, I’ve seen these AI structured press releases and they look similar to a regular press release, but the language is different enough that you’re like, were you struggling with spelling and grammar when you wrote this? Like, this is incoherent. So what is that? How do you explain that? So let’s say, you know, I’m the executive and I say I want to see the press release before it goes out. And then you hand me this AI version of a press release and I, you know, mark it up, red pen, all that sort of stuff, and say, this is incoherent. We can’t send this out. This is embarrassing. Like, that’s a really hard challenge to overcome because it is that re education because you’re sitting there saying, it’s not for you. Katie Robbert – 20:04 And the executive is saying, but I have to approve it. And I can’t approve this. I can’t read it. Like, this is a whole topic that we need to explore in terms of change management. Christopher S. Penn – 20:17 It is. And in some ways it would be the same as that executive trying to inspect Python code. Like, you’re like, you know what? This is not your area specialty. So let’s loop in someone whose special area specialty is to explain to you why this is okay and why it really doesn’t even fall under your purview. Yes, it is. It looks like a press release, it’s press release shaped, but it is not for humans. Katie Robbert – 20:41 Let me ask you this question, and I don’t expect a serious response, but how often, how well does it go when you say to an executive, this is not your area of expertise. Let’s find someone who’s smarter than you. Zero out of 10 times zero. This is. But that’s my point is it’s called a press release. It’s press release shaped. So the person who is used to approving, editing and approving press releases is now being told, this is not your area of expertise. I don’t see that conversation going well. Christopher S. Penn – 21:19 And that’s where I look to you as an expert in change management and organizational behavior, to say, how do we message this to an executive who, as you said, is already a laggard in technology to explain to them, this is not a press release for humans? Katie Robbert – 21:34 I mean, honestly, first and foremost, I’d probably not call it a press release because I think that in and of itself there’s already expectations with the word press release. So if you’re saying it’s a press release, but not—don’t call it a. Christopher S. Penn – 21:47 Press release, I believe you just coined your term, Katie, the AI release. Katie Robbert – 21:52 Call it an AI release because then honest. But honestly, because, like, if you come to me and say, I have a press release, but you’re—but you’ll never be able to understand it. I’m going to be really uppity and offended and, you know, I’m going to throw—throw all the things that are in your way to prevent this from happening until I get it. If you call it an AI release, I’m like, oh, well, I’m not the AI person. I want to understand it, but I probably never will. But that’s not my wheelhouse. That’s not my circus, not my monkeys. Let me go ahead and pass that off. But if it’s a press release, then I absolutely need to micromanage it. Christopher S. Penn – 22:29 Yep, exactly. So I think that answers that question to a degree. Is to—to rebrand it as something else. This is an AI release. This is an AI wire for AI. Katie Robbert – 22:40 And I think that, you know, it’s not the flashiest of names, but I think that it’s appropriately named and that is going to help start that education process of if it’s an AI release for AI, then I don’t have to be the human who understands it because it’s not for me in the first place. Christopher S. Penn – 23:01 Exactly. The other thing that we really recommend, folks, take a good hard look at is syndication, particularly if you are. If you have the opportunity to work with other outlets in other languages. So I’ll give you an example of an acquaintance reached out over the weekend to say, hey, can we make a copy of the almost timely newsletter in Melee? And I’m like, as long as you don’t edit it and you just do the translation of it into—into the Melee language. Yeah, go, go for it, please do. You just have to keep it intact because all my links to my stuff are in there. You know, I want people to go into the Trust Insights courses and stuff. You got to keep my ads. Right. Christopher S. Penn – 23:48 But in doing so, if other people are replicating my content in different languages than when other model makers. So, for example, oh, gosh, what’s the name of the Sea lion? The Sea lion model is a model put together out of a company in Singapore that is structured as a language model for Southeast Asian languages, hence the name Sea Lion—so Malay, Tagalog, Filipino, Thai, etc. Again, we want our data to be finding its way into—into these other models, especially as AI grows and you get more adoption that have localized AI you want to. If you want business in those parts of the world, then you absolutely want to have your content in those publications in those languages. Because someone said on LinkedIn, don’t bother translating your stuff. Language models are perfectly capable of doing that you can just publish in English. Christopher S. Penn – 24:47 Well, that’s a very Eurocentric point of view. But also, language is structured differently. It’s a different language. English is subject, verb, object. Right. There are some languages that are object, subject, verb, like I believe, Gaelic. That if people remember how Transformers work, which you can find in our course, Mastering Prompt Engineering for Marketers, the order of words matters to how prompts function a model. So if you translate into Gaelic properly and it is in that structure, your brand names and titles and how you relate to concepts is going to be different in Gaelic than it is in English. So you absolutely should be publishing in any language where you have an audience or where, you know, big model makers are making the models, like China, for example. Katie Robbert – 25:40 Well, I even think back to my sophomore year of Spanish. The way in which the Spanish language works is that it assigns genders. When you’re conjugating verbs, you have to think about, well, is it, does it end in O? Does it end in a? Yes, like what’s the gender? Even if it’s an inanimate object? You know, and then I also think about a lot of Asian languages. So, you know, in English we go left to right, Asian languages go right to left. And so just the physical structure is different. You know, forget the word order, it’s physically structured, different. And so call me a control freak, I’m totally fine with that. I don’t want an AI model to just go ahead and willy nilly translate for me. I want to have control over the translation. Katie Robbert – 26:33 I was telling a translation story on our livestream last week and how it can go, you know, really wrong. I want to still have that human intervention to say, yes, the model has translated, but I have built in the checks and balances. So for your example, someone wanted to translate your newsletter. Your goal is to keep intact certain tagging and tracking and URLs. You as the human still have to do that QA, that intervention, to say, yes, this is correct. Okay, now it’s ready for public consumption. Christopher S. Penn – 27:07 Exactly. But from the perspective off site SEO for AI, you do want to be doing stuff in the languages of your audience. So go into your Google Analytics as we showed on the live stream, and see what languages you should be targeting. Plus make stuff for the languages of the major model makers in the regions you care about. So you, if you are a French company, you need an English language model. Right. If you look at Mistral has a strong English language capability, even though it’s made in France. You need a strong Chinese language capability because just this morning Deep Seek came out with a new version of its model and they’ve got a deep seq R2 on the way that apparently is terrifyingly good. Guess where Deep Seq gets its information from? From the Internet. Christopher S. Penn – 27:54 And guess what language is particularly good at Chinese, right? So if you are not putting your stuff in multiple languages for model makers to ingest and understand in their language what your company is about, then if this model gets adopted, and that’s kind of the goal of Deep Seq, right, is to they give it away for free so that many places adopt it, you had better be in there. And if you’re not, you are in. You’re not going to perform as well as a competitor who is. So to wrap up off site is all about stuff that you do outside of the walls of your company, outside of the walls of your website. It is technologically the least complicated, but it is arguably the most labor because it requires you to show up and pitch good old fashioned PR. Christopher S. Penn – 28:45 And if your PR firm is not up to date on modern practices, this would be a great time to perhaps educate them. Feel free to share this episode with them and if they are intransigent, maybe it’s time to switch out for a different firm. If you’ve got comments or questions that you want to share about off site optimization for AI pop by our free Slack group, go to Trust Insights AI analytics for markets where you and over 4,000 other marketers are asking and answering each other’s questions every single day. And wherever it is you watch or listen to the show, if there’s a place you’d rather have instead, go to Trust Insights AI TI Podcast. You can find us at all the places fine podcasts are served. Thanks for tuning in. We’ll talk to you on the next one. Christopher S. 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Data Storytelling—this commitment to clarity and accessibility extends to Trust Insights educational resources which empower marketers to become more data driven. Christopher S. Penn – 31:26 Trust Insights champions ethical data practices and transparency in AI sharing knowledge widely whether you’re a Fortune 500 company, a mid sized business or a marketing agency seeking measurable results, Trust Insights offers a unique blend of technical expertise, strategic guidance and educational resources to help you navigate the ever evolving landscape of modern marketing and business in the age of generative AI. Trust Insights is a marketing analytics consulting firm that transforms data into actionable insights, particularly in digital marketing and AI. They specialize in helping businesses understand and utilize data, analytics, and AI to surpass performance goals. 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